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Doubt it, every dude I know who does fine with women is perfectly happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:21 PM
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Everything in life is about other people, if you remove all social contact from a person they go insane
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:17 PM
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That's just escapism
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:16 PM
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They only people who say there's joy to life outside dating, are the ones that never really struggle with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:16 PM
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Why would I want to create anything for a world that just constantly shits on me?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:14 PM
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More like quiet depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:04 PM
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"just ignore the meaning of life"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:04 PM
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There is straight up 0 joy in life if you have no success dating, like really the most quintessential part of human existence; when you don't get to experience it life becomes meaningless and dull.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:57 PM
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I don’t want to accept it but I think you might be right. I just tried doing an online test, which I know aren’t 100% accurate, and I got flagged for “Possible Psychosis”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 02:36 AM
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I could understand that for the thinking “maybe she’s into me”. But I don’t see how it’d be delusional to think “no this girl absolutely hates being around me” Cause I do both, sometimes I swap back and forth depending on the interaction. And it’s not just with dating sometimes I’ll think I’m close friends with someone who’s really just making casual conversation, other times I’ll think someone hates me because they didn’t say hey to me when we passed each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 02:21 AM
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Honestly you’re better off. The level of anxiety that comes with overthinking is annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 02:07 AM
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Anyone else read way too much into shit? Because I swear that’s one of the things I hate most about myself. Especially when it comes to girls in interested in; she’ll smile at me I’ll start thinking clearly she loves me, then she’ll say some innocent comment and I’ll start thinking it has some secret double meaning that says she actually dislikes me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 02:01 AM
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Women or men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:09 AM
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The way I see it there's been a huge push in the last decade or two to never make women feel uncomfortable in social situations. As a consequence of this men can't risk flirting with women because if she doesn't return the feelings then you've now made her uncomfortable, and that now carries a huge social stigma. It's like a social mine field: Sure, you might be fine and never step on one but god help you if you ever do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 12:56 AM
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I'm fine with small talk, problem is I end up just being their friend instead. I've found it difficult to escalate from just making small talk to flirting without coming off creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 12:48 AM
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Guys being afraid to talk to women (that they're interested in) is so commonplace nowadays it's insane, like it's not just a meme even the most confident outgoing dudes I know in their early 20's are paralyzed around women they like. These are the dudes will be talking up about how they're going to be assertive and flirty with her, then they're actually in front of her it's just "......"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 12:38 AM
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If you removed the pleasure from sex every woman will be treated like a man. As a woman you might think "that sounds awesome" but every man reading this knows what that truly entails... You'll find that the world is a much lonelier and more hostile place than you're used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:33 AM
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Honestly this is just women's version of "the wall". Men one here act like women become completely undateable after 30/40, the truth is they date just slightly worse than they used to, still much better than men do at their age. Women in this thread in a similar fashion want to believe that men become completely sterile or their kids will be guaranteed to have massive problems. Truth is fertility/outcome is only slightly worse for men as they age, still much better than women's fertility/outcome…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:05 AM
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<image> Because men are still mostly fertile up until they hit retirement age, hell there's even news stories of men in their 70s getting women pregnant. Simply biologically speaking women are far more likely to experience fertility issues earlier in life. There's a lot more shit effecting men's fertility e.g. diet, dropping testosterone levels, endocrine disrupting chemicals; those are the concerns for men's fertility, not age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:56 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ypFdROdpYZg A few weeks/months ago I commented on here about literally exactly this lol, about how a girl I knew in work I was completely unsure if she was interested in me or thought I was creepy because she kept glancing at me. The comments on this video confirm I'm not alone, every guy basically like "yeah it's not worth the risk of being wrong".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:40 AM
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But not to the same degree as dating apps. Every single man I know is on dating apps, only a handful of the single women I know are on them. Yes but it's still a common issue on dating apps. People notice looks irl but they also notice how you carry yourself, your interests, your personality. Online it's 90% looks and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:22 PM
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Beyond IQ I firmly believe that people can be intelligent in different ways, and that doesn't get taken into account enough on here when people talk about intelligence or IQ. You can be a prodigy in mathematics but hopeless at writing; both an award winning writer and an engineer are "smart" but in different ways because they both require a different kind of intelligence. That's important because I believe there's a kind of "social intelligence"; and this social intelligence trumps any other kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:13 PM
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I'm not jealous of dudes in toxic relationships. I am jealous of dudes who pump and dump a lot of women, not because I want to emulate that but because if he can pump and dump women chances are he's attractive enough he could easily have a relationship. Also, the women I want to date are busy getting pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:01 PM
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"I hope this woman is empathetic and sees me as a human being" "That's a completely unrealistic image of women" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:27 AM
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No BP women will say it as well, but they say it because they claim they "don't care about muscles at all!"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:24 AM
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People who get plastic surgery for cosmetic reasons usually have body dysmorphia though and don't stop because they're never happy with how they look. <image> Erin Moriarty went from stunningly beautiful to messed up in just a few short years thanks to plastic surgery. Humans are astonishingly good at picking up on faces, I've never seen someone who got plastic surgery and didn't end up looking slightly uncanny valley; even for just minor work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:21 AM
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Not necessarily. Most men will by default like a woman when they first meet, it's only by further interactions that they start to hate them. Only thing that's changed recently is that social media has kind of shattered the illusion that men had surrounding women (that they were kind, loyal, and caring) and made it really almost none of them have those qualities. Yet even still, every man holds out hope that he might find his dream girl. The dream girl being: a woman who genuinely cares about the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:14 AM
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I mean men are a lot more visually driven biologically. If I see a hot woman I won't "stare" at her but I'll probably notice her immediately. Even in the gay community, men are obsessed with looks, where as lesbian women don't really seem to be as concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:03 AM
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Plastic surgery never ends well in the long run, google what Simon Cowell looks like now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:01 AM
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Then why are y'all mad at RP men and not the women who are creating them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:45 AM
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I've unironically heard BP women say you're wasting your time hitting the gym as a man, but that's really the main way to looksmaxx as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:43 AM
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Men love women, we just hate the way they act.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:40 AM
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To what extent?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:39 AM
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The only time I got with an emotionally unstable hot woman was when I was in my blue pill era, and she left me a lot worse off than I left her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:39 AM
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Q4W: Are there any red pill ideas you actually agree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:32 AM
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From what I've seen men (particularly older men) use OLD to try and cheat. I don't often hear of or see women cheating on OLD, the majority of the time it's a man they know IRL they cheat with. This is why you've got women who want to see everything on their mans phone, and men who don't like their woman being friends with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:20 AM
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The job world is just as red pilled as the dating world, in fact they even cross over sometimes (looks). We like to tell ourselves work is pure meritocracy, but anyone who's paying any attention knows that connections and your family matters a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:03 AM
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Don't mention it at all. Being up front about it serves no benefit, and it has the potential of giving a woman who's into you cold feet. You bring having little experience with women and she'll start subconsciously thinking "what's wrong with him? is he a loser?" thoughts that might have never crossed her mind until you put them there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:59 AM
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In most western countries modern women have considerably more advantages than modern men. The whole idea of feminism was to have men and women on equal footing, and now that women are actually slightly ahead of men they still demand more; this is what's causing men to become "anti-feminist". They see it as nothing but women who have every advantage thrown at them still asking for more. Women are outpacing men in education, all things being equal women are now more likely to get hired to hit dive…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:39 AM
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Did you actually read the data you linked? They claim they found no disparity between genders, but at the same time they mention "yeah other studies found a disparity between genders", then they explicitly refuse to publish the data pertaining to gender differences. If they're not willing to actually publish the data pertaining to it then it's not something they can make a strong claim about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:12 AM
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https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1741-3737.2003.00444.x From the abstract: “ women who have more than one intimate premarital relationship have an increased risk of marital dissolution.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:20 AM
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Currently?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:16 AM
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Because they do want a virgin but often times they’ll settle for a girl who’s had 2 or 3 previous boyfriends. You have to look at why they want a virgin, they don’t want a girl who has a high number count. You know how girls will judge other girls for the guy they date? Guys will judge other guys if they date a girl who’s known to put out a lot - those girls are never seen as relationship material by anyone other than the most desperate of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:15 AM
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The more people a woman’s dated before dating you the less likely the relationship is to last.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:12 AM
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Clearly not, y’all are on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:03 AM
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That’s pretty much the situation I’m in, live rurally so I have fuck all dating options. I’ve also seen stats that say that cities have a slightly higher % of women while rural towns have a higher % of men. Strongly considering just uprooting and moving to some big city to up my dating potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:03 AM
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I mean yeah, when guys say they want a virgin what they really mean is “a girl who hasn’t been ran through by half a dozen guys”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:59 PM
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Which sounds boring lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:53 PM
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Q4All: Have any of you actually moved (city or country) purely for dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:53 PM
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Love visiting this sub on Valentine’s Day. There’s a certain sense of camaraderie, like anyone that’s browsing these threads has a life equally as boring as me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:49 PM
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The women searching for their beta bux have started to appear on my dating apps. I'm now getting likes from women who mention they have a child in their bio - immediate left swipe every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:00 PM
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"Only women, children, and dogs are loved unconditionally. Men are loved on the condition that you provide shit!""
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:33 AM
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The people who are genuinely die hard anti-abortion believe it's murder. For the record I'm pro-choice but I can at least understand the other side of the argument, particularly for religious people. They believe that killing an unborn baby is the same as killing a normal person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:31 AM
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You having interest in other women isn't good, other women having interest in you is though. Women won't date a guy unless other women agree he's dateable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:25 AM
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I don't trust psychiatrists, most of them are more insane than the people they treat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:22 AM
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I don't know if this is depression or just getting older but I feel like life in general has completely lost it's spark for me. Like I'm not suicidal or sad, I'm just kind of indifferent to everything. It wasn't that long ago that I had lots of dreams and aspirations; I don't dream anymore though. I'm a cynical person now, like 5 years ago I dreamed of emigrating to another country but now I just think "That's naive, uprooting your life to move to another country is a huge effort and your life w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:16 AM
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I think the two both kind of compound on one another, but they're both mostly caused by the same issue imo. Speaking from personal experience having no dating success ruins your mental health, but having shit mental health kind of ruins your dating options; no one wants to date a depressed person. In saying that though, the cause of both is the proliferation of social media and the increased isolation. We've known for a long time now that social media is terrible for people mental health, but ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 10:31 AM
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https://preview.redd.it/hy6xzhllaxhc1.jpeg?width=563&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9ea3552c9707275eeba86b5fc64f63916076feca
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:12 AM
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Sorry I misunderstood your comment, I read the OP comment and assumed you were implying that's where the "garbage" on the internet was.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:51 AM
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Anyone who hangs out on an a forum talking about their IQ is likely to be miles up their own ass. All the people who I've known in my life who, when I met them, immediately struck me as very intelligent never mentioned or even hinted at it. It was obvious from the way they spoke about and engaged with topics as well as their litany of achievements. I've also met a handful of people in my life who bragged about how "smart" they were. Not a single one of them struck me as intelligent though, they …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:38 AM
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Man I think I must be low IQ; I checked out that subreddit and their grammar doesn't appear terrible to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:27 AM
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Basically: (Attractive guy is a bit shy and nervous) = "Wow, it's so cute how he's shy to talk to us." (Ugly guy is a bit shy and nervous) = "That guys a fucking creep be careful, don't be left alone with him!"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:02 AM
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If she is interested I have a feeling she might just be doing it purely because she likes feeling “wanted” rather than actually wanting me back
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:15 PM
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Yeah but it means that those glances probably weren’t subtle hints she’s into me…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:40 PM
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Doesn’t look like a celebrity, she was showing me a photo on her phone and I noticed she also has a handful of what look like saved Snapchat selfies with text of this dude. Possibly a friend or a brother, but i don’t know anyone who sets their friend/brother as a screensaver
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:39 PM
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Thought this girl was interested in me because she was constantly glancing at me. Today I noticed she has some guy as the screensaver on her phone, which is pretty much the modern day version of noticing a wedding ring.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:23 PM
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That's what I want to believe, but my nightmare scenario basically goes like this: \I approach her and start talking to her, she's smiling intermittently but not very talkative.** Me in my mind: "Wow, she's smiling, avoiding eye contact, I think she's even blushing a bit this is going great!" Meanwhile in her mind: "Jesus Christ this fucking guy is talking to me, maybe if I just smile it might end quicker, don't make eye contact with him I don't want him to think I'm into him, he still won't lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 01:59 AM
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Y'all ever had a girl in you're life who you're like "She either thinks I'm really cute, or kind of weird.."? I've had 2 girls like this in my life in the past few months. Both of them acting pretty much the same, seemed to avoid me a lot, never really talked to me, would also avoid eye contact. So my mind goes "cool, they think I'm a weirdo and want nothing to do with me." But then, at the same time when we do make eye contact they'll smile, I'll be completely focused on something else and catc…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 01:22 AM
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I mean, wouldn’t you want that if you went on estrogen? On the flip side I’ve seen what guys taking testosterone does and it’s insane how much more muscle they gain
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 02:27 AM
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Feel like the cultures shifted a lot around that. People are way more open about their steroid use nowadays. But I think the general public doesn’t realise things like every single Hollywood actor being on steroids, sets a real unobtainable standard for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 02:25 AM
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I feel like I have to, even if it’s going to take me years to build size. Women, at least where I live, do not like thin boys. Funny think is I started around the same time as a buddy of mine who was overweight. His transformation in a year was a lot more dramatic, but it had more to do with him dropping weight than building muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 02:23 AM
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Fitness as a man can be really depressing. I spent a solid year maintaining a lifting routine and by the end of it I look literally exactly the same in clothes, and without clothes I just look marginally more muscular. If I didn't enjoy the mental benefit from lifting I probably would have given up a long time ago. Everyone knows it takes a long time to build a good physique, but it's not until you actually start trying to build that physique that you truly appreciate how long it takes. Like I'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 02:01 AM
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I'm kind of 50/50 on it, I feel like I would but there's no way to know she's a virgin unless she outright tells you which she won't unless you already have some sort of relationship. On the other hand I feel like at my age any woman who's still a virgin probably has either close to zero libido or a lot of hangups regarding sex. Neither of which I'd be interested in dating. It's fucking easy as shit for a woman to get laid these days, and there's almost zero social stigma.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 01:21 AM
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Not being approached in public or at a bar is literally what women have been asking for for decades. Women asked to be left alone, now they’re being left alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 11:30 AM
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I like how the implication is that misogynistic men don’t get laid. Meanwhile every man knows plenty of guys who have no issues getting laid, then spout the most off the cuff misogynistic takes about women when they’re not around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 11:20 AM
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I used to think of modern dating as a prisoners dilemma for men. The more I think about it though it seems more like a tragedy of the commons. Every man is incentivised to act thirsty to get laid as much as they can, leading to a shit situation for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 10:55 AM
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Guys want girls who they have things in common with, and they (mostly) know their league; they know that 10/10 supermodel is probably not going to date them. You think a guy who loves video games wouldn't love a girlfriend who could play video games with him? I know a dude who's really into cars, and wouldn't you know it the girl he's dating is also a huge petrol head.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 03:41 PM
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The point is women's preferences aren't logical. I have no problem with a girl who's in amazing shape, conventionally attractive, has a good personality saying she wants a guy who's tall, attractive, and interesting. But all too often I see girls who don't take care of themselves, aren't conventionally attractive, and are quite frankly pretty boring, complaining that they can't attract the funny 6'2" handsome guy. Men know their league, if I was to go to my friends and say "I only date short fit…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 03:36 PM
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IMO it's one of the worst things about society today. If you're genuinely kind and helpful people will think of you as weak and stupid, on the flip side they think fucking people over and lying makes them "smart" and being an asshole means they're "strong". More of a problem for men IME, I see guys who I know deep down are kind dudes, but they won't show it because they don't want other guys to think of them as weak, and I know other dudes who are egotistical fuckheads but think they're geniuses…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 03:18 PM
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I've noticed that when men list their desires for a partner, there's usually some logic behind it; they keep in shape so they want a woman who keeps in shape. They have hobbies and a personality so they want a woman whose hobbies/personality lines up with their own. Meanwhile women when they desire a partner just kind of feel entitled to it, there's no logic or reasoning behind it, they just feel like they intrinsically deserve x/y/z guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 02:59 PM
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Unironically true in my experience. Matched with an absolute bombshell on a dating app, seemed to have a pretty interesting personality too, thought "wow how is this person still single?". Then after 3 days of texting I didn't reply to one of her messages until the next morning and she went absolutely ape-shit over not responding immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 02:33 PM
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Feels like the choices are: Date a woman who's had no sex -> Dead bedroom Date a woman who's had lots of sex -> Get cheated on
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:13 AM
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As a short man I think the only women I can truly empathize with when it comes to dating are ugly women, like the really ugly women... This is because, as a guy, I know how guys treat ugly women. You could be the sweetest kindest woman doing everything guys say they want and you'll still get treated like you're invisible to them. Meanwhile a drop dead gorgeous woman will get treated much kinder by men, they'll get cut a lot more slack, and they'll get complimented for the smallest of things. For…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:02 AM
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Only men I know who've used escorts also have plenty (non-paid) sex with women, they just also like escorts. Oddly enough all my friends who struggle with women, myself included, would never dream of going to an escort.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:45 AM
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If you're attractive it's that simple, otherwise you're a creep for even trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:44 AM
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Heard recently about "Shifting Baseline Syndrome", it was in relation to climate change and how our expectations for what's a "normal environment" changes over time as we become more exposed to the new environment. I think it points out something fundamental in human nature, and think it can be applied somewhat to what we see today in the modern dating market. A hundred years ago people were only really exposed to people they met in real life, and their dating expectations were only set by this …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:12 PM
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It also depends on how much you care about your job. The more you care the less you should do it This is exactly why I want to figure out a way to subtly figure out if she’s actually interested in me or if I’m misinterpreting signals.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 04:10 PM
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Gravitate towards you The opposite if anything, I’ve only spoken to her a handful of times. She’s never really initiated conversation with me. Often look at your face This is what initially made me think she might be interested in me. People are pretty good at telling when they’re being looked at, I’ve caught her staring directly at me on more than one occasion. But I don’t know if she’s doing it because she thinks I’m a weirdo or because she finds me attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 04:07 PM
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Best case scenario I take her out on date and go from there. Worst case scenario I either lose my job or get shunned by everyone for being the creepy guy hitting on the new coworker. Which is why I want to figure it out without bluntly asking her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 04:03 PM
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Well as per my username you can tell self confidence isn’t one of them. I’m in okay shape, I work out but I’m not super bulky just kind of toned. I’ve had a handful of women ask me out in the past, so clearly it’s not impossible that some women find me attractive. Mixed results on dating apps and irl, had some women tell me they think I’m “hot as fuck” had others tell me they thought I was gay…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 04:01 PM
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This is probably the worst place to come for dating advice; and yet here I am... How can I figure out if a girl at work, who I think might like me, actually is interested in me without outright asking her? The kind of vibes I've been getting from her recently is she either really likes me and is shy, or is put off by me. She always seems quiet and awkward around me and she is a bit shy around other co-workers but not as much, I've also caught her glancing at me on more than one occasion. TL;DR: …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:32 PM
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Are you sure it has that? I tried looking on my own profile and I can't find anywhere that lists people who searched for my profile. I also tried googling to see how can I tell who's looked up my profile and everything I can't find anything online that says you can do that, there's one or two videos but they're only for "added by search" if you actually send them a friend request.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:24 PM
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The fact that I'm 50/50 on if she likes me or is creeped out by me makes it 10x worse. If she was creeped out by me then snapchat has probably just commited social murder on me, because she'll tell all her friends about "that creep from work who was looking her up on snapchat". I'm just gonna play it cool and hope it's pray it's nothing, if she doesn't say anything hopefully I'm in the clear. My own fault tbh, my nosiness got the better of me, there was really no reason for me to search her in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:24 AM
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Yeah I'm hoping that, the only times I've gotten "added you by search" notifications were spam accounts that were trying to add me then send spam messages. I just can't figure out what could have changed between the first and second search? Maybe it was just that our locations were close when we were in work and then it "updated" because we weren't anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:17 AM
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Bro anyone here who's familiar with Snapchat can you please tell me is this just some weird thing with SC or have I just made possibly one of my greatest social fuckups?... Basically there's this cute girl at work, who I was 50/50 on if she liked me or was put off by me, I curious if she was on Snapchat so I searched up her name (didn't add her just typed her real name into search) and low and behold an account popped up with "you may know", I assumed probably because I have her in my contacts (…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:07 AM
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As a guy I think the reason it's so hard for men to "pick up on signals" is because the "signals" can often have complete polar opposite meanings depending on the girl. For example: Girl is always hanging around with you, talks to you all the time and hangs out with you a lot, it could mean: She is very interested in you and is trying to signal she's interested in you as much as she can without outright telling you. Or, it could mean she sees you as nothing but a friend and the reason she's so b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:54 AM
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Just curious are you a man or a woman? I know "friendzoned" is a cliche but in my experience it's often times men trying their heart out to date a girl but she doesn't reciprocate his feelings. So it ends up with her thinking of him as just a friend, like you said maybe at times considering him but not seriously. Meanwhile he is constantly wishing they were together.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 09:35 PM
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Do you guys think (straight) women and (straight) men can be platonic friends? Maybe this says more about me but if I see a girl and a guy hanging out together a lot I immediately assume either: They're dating, or one of them (usually the guy) wishes they were dating. If one of them is gay it's a different story but I just really can't see straight men and women being close friends and there being nothing else going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 09:27 PM
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As a young teenager sure, I pined after the attractive girls. But as I got older I mostly grew out of it, it still matters to a degree but I can overlook someone being a bit homely if they're fun to be around and genuinely have a lot in common with me. The disconnect from my perspective is a lot of Women never seem to grow out of that phase, possibly because of the rhetoric for the last decades and a half that they all deserve perfect men and no less. A woman can find me funny and interesting an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 09:16 PM
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f you're worried about women assuming you're even shorter That's pretty much what has me worried. So many guys lie about their height that I feel like they might see me listed as 5'7 and think "Oh he's probably 5'4"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:38 PM
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Nowadays it's you rent the cow but it doesn't give you any milk, then when you're finished renting for the day the cow goes to another farmer to get milked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:34 PM
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Am I shooting myself in the foot by not lying about my height on dating apps? I feel like I'm being honest to a fault. I'm 170cm so I have my height listed as 170cm (~5'7), and despite seeing plenty of girls shorter than me irl apparently on dating apps 90% of the women are 173-178cm (5'8-5'10). On extremely rare occasions I'll see a girl on there who says she's 165cm (5'5) but that's pretty much the shortest I'll ever encounter. I never lied about my height on dating apps because I figured it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:27 PM
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“Elevating my mindset” is what brought me to this conclusion years ago. You can be a sweet kind and caring man, and you know what? Women will treat you like shit. Not outright but subtlety; they stop viewing you as a “man” and so they won’t treat you the same way they treat other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 11:13 PM
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Y’all don’t want that. Y’all keep saying you want men who are emotionally intelligent and in touch with their feelings, then you find one and you think he’s weak and effeminate. Getting in shape and earning more money (and likely more social status in the process) is exactly what guys should be doing. I don’t know many emotional men who kill it with the ladies. But I do know lots of in shape narcissists who do just fine with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 11:03 PM
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I don’t think it helped my generation but I don’t think we were the worst effected. The kids were the worst hit by the lockdowns. They’re already socially developmentally stunted, it’s only going to get worse once they start to reach adult hood.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:32 AM
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If she’s not willing to take your last name she’s not really committed to you, you will more than likely end up divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:17 AM
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Go to any college campus, all you’ll see are attractive men and tall men with women. Most average guys do not have girlfriends and the ones that do are dating well below their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:07 AM
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As a boomer I can assure you the housing market is not that different. People who don’t save up don’t get houses
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:55 AM
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As someone who’s gen Z, the generational changes in dating aren’t talked about enough on here. If you’re not gen Z you have to understand the dating landscape is just different these days. Social media, dating apps, and social trends in general have completely changed the game. It would be like trying to compare pre-industrial to post-industrial farming. Sure they’re both “farming” but the methods and problems they face are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:43 AM
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Social interaction is absolutely a human need. Solitary confinement makes people go borderline insane, to the point where it’s pretty much considered inhumane for all but the most dangerous of criminals. Sex is a lower need than social interaction but still needed to be a healthy functional adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:35 PM
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You’d be shocked how many women consider them fuckboys, then continue to fall for their fuckboy tactics
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:30 PM
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I’m not Austrian though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:27 PM
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Women want ugly guys to leave them alone. Women consider 80% of guys to be ugly. So naturally they tell every guy to just treat them like a friend and see where it goes (hint it’s going nowhere if you’re not in the top 20%)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:25 PM
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I don’t think recognising that sex and relationships are pretty important for humans, especially men, makes you thirsty. Once our base needs of food, shelter, and security are met then relationship needs (sex, relationships, friends) are next.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:20 PM
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I always thought “gym bro” was a meme but the dudes who frequent the gym really are the most red pilled guys you’ll meet. I suppose it attracts that kind of person, they wouldn’t bother working out if they didn’t think women care a lot about looks. It always takes me back a bit because to their faces these guys appear to women as the most kind and caring gentle giants. Then you talk to them when there’s no women around and they’re parroting every red pill talking point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:07 PM
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Women say they don't care about muscle. Majority of women (and guys for that matter) have no clue about fitness and muscle building. They see professional body builders and think that's what "muscley" looks like. When pressed on it most women say their ideal body would be something like this. Which is a body that actually has quite a lot of muscle, and would take a shit load of time in the gym to achieve. Women will see a body like that and think he doesn't even go to the gym, hence why they cla…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 12:58 AM
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Either you don't actually know your own height, or you live in some outlier land, the data doesn't support that. Younger people in the US are taller on average... by between 0.2-0.6 inches. Plenty of guys in the 5'10-6'2 range but 6'5? 6'6? That's still extremely rare
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 12:40 AM
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Bumble height filter data, either women are even worse at judging height than I imagined or height fetishization is even worse than I imagined. I know literally 3 people in my life who are 6'5" and above, all of them are absolute fucking giants, I don't think these women realize just how tall that is (or maybe they do...)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 12:27 AM
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Dating apps are basically one big prisoners dilemma for men. Men can either focus on a small handful of women, or shotgun it and try to talk to as many as possible. How is this a prisoners dilemma? Well for men as a whole it would be better if women’s inboxes weren’t flooded with messages because then your message would stand out more. However, if all men started doing this then the shotgun method would become even more effective because now you’re still taking to more women and their inboxes ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 01:20 PM
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Bar is in hell because they don't want it to filter out any tall+handsome assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 02:42 AM
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In my life I've seen a girl I've known since we were teenagers go from a perfect 10/10 at 19 to 6/10 at 24. Not because of age either, she could have still been cute at 24 instead she gained a bunch of weight, got some really shitty tattoos, nose rings/lip piercings. I mean I get it, it's her life she can do what she wants, I just couldn't imagine myself doing the same thing in her situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 02:36 AM
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Every guy I've ever met irl would not date a slut beyond just casual hookups. It's only on reddit do I see dudes saying they wouldn't have a problem with high n-count women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 02:19 AM
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Top post on /r/tinder right now is a girl posting about a guy she matched with who used for her purely for sex a few years ago while he was still dating another girl. Apparently this ruined her reputation among her friends and she thinks he's a dick because of it. However, said dude is tall and jacked so shes saying in the comments that she'd gladly fuck him again and that's why she matched with him. Ladies, this is why men straight up just don't believe a word you say when it comes to your dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 02:17 AM
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Isn't this pretty much just the average modern dating situation? It's why there's so many Average/below average dudes like me struggling. Girls think they hit the jackpot but they're all fucking the exact same dude hoping for commitment from him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:02 PM
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Tinder has always been bad where I live, but ever since Covid it's just completely gone down the drain. Pre-Covid I at least got a small handful dates off it, and most people were real and would respond if they matched with you. Post Covid this is literally all I see on tinder: Instagram Girl - Just wants Instagram followers "I'm not on here much, IG: ******" Ego Booster - Will match but never responds to any messages Foreign Girl - Has zero dating intentions, will chat with you but only to impr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:59 PM
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There's some things you can say "all men are like that" for too. For example "all men care about looks more than personality" in my experience it's true, even the most blue-pilled men care about looks more than personality beyond a certain point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 01:33 AM
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Should we start making assumptions about all men based on her traumatic experiences? You could honestly probably make assumptions about certain subsets of men. I mean a hugely disproportionate amount of cops abuse their wives, I don't think it's wrong to say "yeah it might be a bad idea to marry a cop" given that information. The difference with the "open up about your feelings" thing from all the guys who've experienced it, it doesn't seem to matter what woman it was, what her background is, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 12:56 AM
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Have to disagree on this one, I've been burned twice in my life by the whole "women want men who are open about their feelings" bullshit. In my experience the second you open up to a woman, and show that you're vulnerable they start to treat you different. I don't they do it maliciously, I just think that subconsciously in their brain a man being open signals "weak man" and they immediately start treating you as such. On the flip side you know what's gotten me by far the most positive reactions …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 12:44 AM
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I mean, it's not an excuse for being fat but IMO some women genuinely do carry fat a lot better than others. The problem is you get women who absolutely do not carry it well who for some reason think they're a "thicc godess"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 12:36 AM
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Local radio station asked people what the most important physical attribute in a partner was, the women that called in said: Height Height Wrists Height + broad shoulders Adonis lines Two of the women were also asked how short is too short for them to consider, one said below 6ft is too short, the other said below 6'2" is too short.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 05:38 PM
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Bar is below the floor for women. In 2023 as a woman you can be ugly, socially awkward, boring, but if you're in good shape you're still an 8/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 04:00 PM
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I think the reason men try less now (in terms of dating) is because of how apparent the black pill has become to most young men. Pre-2010s everyone bought into the whole "personality is most important" speil. If a guy kept failing he'd assume it's because his "game was weak". Now? Dating apps and the internet in general have made it abundantly obvious that none of that actually mattered. At the end of the day looks were the number 1 most important factor. And so guys without good looks now think…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 11:55 PM
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5'7" on a good day
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 10:03 PM
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Basically: Blue Pill - Looks are a factor, but personality matters most. Red Pill - Looks are a factor, but game/confidence matters most. Black Pill - Looks is the single most important factor, everything else is secondary to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 09:53 PM
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I understand the attraction aspect. But it's not just taller than them. I've seen girls 4'11 turn down 5'7" guys for being too short. In a vacuum she might be attracted to him, but in the real world all her friends have boyfriends that are 6ft+ so that's her minimum too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 09:48 PM
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I was recently talking to a girl who was interested in dating, I liked her but I turned her down because of the age gap (I'm 24, she's 33). Although that age gap doesn't bother me personally, I just couldn't see myself seriously dating her due to fear of social stigma from it. It got me wondering how many short guys get turned down purely because of social stigma? I constantly hear women say "they don't mind short guys", but I've also heard from women that have dated short guys that their female…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 09:31 PM
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Every woman on every dating app complains about men wanting sex instead of going on 6 dates before even kissing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:53 PM
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Sex is everywhere in media and online Sex and sex appeal is prominently in advertisements "Virgin" is used as an insult Viewed as more/less of a man depending on how many women want to have sex with you "Why are men so obsessed with sex?"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:46 PM
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First girl. I've never met a guy who would actually want to pursue a serious relationship with the second girl. They might want to fuck her, but for a relationship it'd be a no go for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 02:08 AM
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"Style" is just a cope. You ever see the tiktoks where dudes dress in the ugliest clothes possible then do a big ""reveal"" where they're in a much better outfit? The main takeaway from those videos is the fact that they still look hot even in "ugly" clothes. Dressing better doesn't make you actually look better, it's just a cope so people can tell themselves it's not that they're just ugly and short, it's their sTyLe that's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:32 PM
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They're looking for attention/ego boost and have no actual desire for meeting someone off the app.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:28 PM
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https://features.inside.com/why-arent-men-in-their-20s-having-sex/ No. of young men having less sex has risen dramatically in recent years, and year after year seems to steadily climb. I can guarantee you it's not because of a lack of interest, every dude I know wants to or is actively trying to get laid. Women just don't give them the time of day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 12:55 AM
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Marriage rates have been rapidly declining, and the no. of young males not getting any attention from women has sky rocketed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 12:38 AM
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Those are all valid discussions as well, but the answer for those discussions is never allowed to infer that women may be in any way at fault or need to change in any way. What is it about modern lifestyle or value system that isolates and alienates men at the rates we haven't seen before. Male social outlets are now deemed "toxic masculinity", and thus aren't allowed to exist. Virtually all of modern life has been moulded to fit women better, at the expense of men (education in particular has b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 12:36 AM
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Like I said, they probably already believed that; it just wasn't as pronounced/they didn't feel as comfortable talking about it until it was reaffirmed. I know friends personally who have a pretty low view of women in general, but that's not something they're gonna talk about when they chatting up a woman because they know it'll ruin their chanced. In private though, yeah they have a pretty poor view of women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 12:25 AM
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There's physical attraction then there's hypergamy. There's plenty of men that women find physically attractive, but they've been raised to believe he's worthless unless he's earning in the top 20% of men and of a high social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 12:21 AM
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Pretty much every single red pill leaning subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 12:17 AM
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You ever notice how it's never the dudes who are in happy loving relationships who suddenly see an Andrew Tate clip and become red pilled? That's because life seems to be going fine for them in their blue pilled state so they're not just going to switch ideologies. The other dudes though, when dudes like Tate come along and are like "Yeah most women are shit." guys are like "yep, that's been my experience" because they subconsciously hold those values already.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 12:13 AM
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I keep hearing people complain about red pill spaces/prominent promoters of red pill ideology, as if they're the reason there's so many red-pill young men nowadays. However I feel those spaces/people are a symptom rather than a cause; they're only popular with young men because an audience exists that already, on some level, believes in those ideals. They're not looking for leaders, they're looking for conformation of their already held beliefs. They (blue pillers) only believe that removing the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 11:57 PM
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Okay? I genuinely don't care if someone collects funko pops, but in general it's far more likely to turn a girl off (manchild) than turn them on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 02:07 AM
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I never claimed to be an "alpha". Also collecting a bunch of toys is just going to put women off, make them into me lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:40 AM
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I've tried, it's hard to. Especially around the holidays when you're reminded how lonely you are, and then you remember dudes like above who seemingly never had to deal with the same shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:13 AM
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I'd see it as more of an outlier than the norm. Like yeah, I'm sure there's 1/1000 women out there who wouldn't exibit the same shitty values that made me red pilled in the first place, but what are the chances of getting that lucky? In any case, this dude doesn't seem to be going that far in life. Like I said, art degree, he's graduated now and trying to make it as an artist (his art isn't really spectacular). Given my experiences with women, I'm sure this girl will stick around with him for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 12:59 AM
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Honestly I wish I was blue pilled. No one, to my knowledge, wants to be red/black pilled, it's usually something you become after experiences with women. There's this one dude I knew since college, ended up dating my crush, and is practically the definition of a "soy boy" - chubby, short, into massively childish shit (collecting action figures and watching marvel films), did an art course, is massively liberal, etc. And you know what? I'm jealous of him, I wish I could be living his fairy-tale l…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 12:43 AM
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Just my observation but it's only ever like 5'6/5'7 women I see giving short dudes a chance. It's like any girl taller is like "I'm tall so I need a tall guy" and any girl who's like 5'2 is like "I also need a tall guy".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 09:51 PM
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I can’t stand women who physically have huge mouths Same
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 03:55 PM
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It's pretty easy to tell
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 03:53 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/y43o8q/comment/iscyw6x/?context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 12:43 AM
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Convinced most of the women on here are from a different reality. I talk to women irl and the majority of them are fine and pretty approachable. Then I come on here and it's just like "nope, all that goodwill is gone, my opinion on women has done a 180 again."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 12:34 AM
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Guarantee this woman is fat, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 12:07 AM
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"Welcome to life kid, as you can see shit ain't fair"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 01:27 PM
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With a sister like that he'll never grow up a simp
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 01:24 PM
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Seen elsewhere on reddit, this shit is like a redpillers dream example
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 01:08 PM
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Men treat girls they're not interested in just like they'd treat a normal guy. They're not being overly mean they're just not going out of their way to simp for them. Apparently that constitutes treating them like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 12:11 AM
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Hot girls are usually nice because they get everything they want in life. They don't have to worry about dating because they are the ultimate goal for chad. Less attractive women almost always have a chip on their shoulder because they want Chad but he don't want them (beyond just fucking). They act overly mean to average dudes because it helps them delude themselves into thinking that surely they must be in chads league and not the league of these average dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 12:08 AM
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Everyone talks about getting a good job being the best way to get women when you're older. Yet literally every dude I know in high paying jobs (welders, engineers, software developers, marketers) do pretty shit with women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 11:31 PM
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Most women would prefer a better body. Should we also use eugenics to give women bigger tits?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:06 PM
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But Tinder's stats also say that it's mostly the same profiles that are getting those 5% of right swipes from women. You're assuming that they're evenly distributed between "types" when it's more like: Guy A gets 800 likes Guy B gets 40 likes Guy C gets 2 likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:45 PM
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Again those things will just stop a woman from losing attraction to you. If she wasn't attracted to you in the first place being cultured and charming would just make her your friend at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 01:51 PM
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Like magneto?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 01:50 PM
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Is there anything non physical a man can even do to make himself more attractive? We all know getting in shape can make you more attractive or getting a better haircut/style. But I can't think of anything non physical a man can do that would make a woman who was previously not attracted to them suddenly even a little bit into them. Everything non physical just seems to be "shit to make her not lose attraction" like not being awkward or being confident. If she's already not into you being confide…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 01:28 PM
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My dating life would be easy mode if I was born gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 01:26 PM
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Men tell women to vet, when women vet men start to complain about their selection criteria. Girl: "All of my ex's were douchebags who treated me like shit, why can't I find a guy who's not self-absorbed?" Guy: "Hey you know you can usually see those guys a mile away. If you just avoided cocky and pompous guys and paid attention to the friend group they keep you'd find much better guys." Girl: "Okay got it, so only date guys above 6ft who make 6 figures?"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 08:26 PM
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As in they offer nothing to the relationship other than being a woman. They want the guy to be the whole package while accepting her for her shortcomings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 08:19 PM
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Nah I've seen the options women in my life have. Plenty of them are perfectly fine well educated, well put together men, not homeless methheads. One girl I know had a guy who wanted to take her out on a picknick but said no because she didn't like his "swag". So that guy was everything she was looking for but not cool enough for her. I rarely ever see guys doing that, you're kidding yourself if you think the average guy is sitting at home with plenty of options. He has to actively seek out partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 08:18 PM
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Except the men know they won't get hired by Microsoft so they stay in their lane and apply to work at a gas station. Except the gas station is holding out hoping that a full stack developer might quit Microsoft and come work for them soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 08:12 PM
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Whenever I see women complain about their options in the dating market it feels like an employer complaining that "no one wants to work anymore" Like they have hundreds of options the problem is they want college educated, lots of experience, while offering minimum wage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 02:25 PM
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How low do you think sexlessness will drop before the general public views it as an issue? Because so far every few years a new study on sex will drop and it's always the same thing: the number of people (particularly men) getting laid drops a few percent, and people are losing their virginity at later ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 08:48 PM
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I care about what they think, even if I pretend I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 12:46 AM
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Silver, even something as lame as league I sucked at.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 12:41 AM
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It's not that simple. I wish I could place you in my shoes so you could see what I mean. I'm 98.5% sure I'm designed to die a virgin like Newton.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 12:38 AM
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Shit posting is all I can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 12:36 AM
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I used to...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 12:35 AM
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I'm not sure anyone genuinely likes me. I feel like I'm a side character just going through life to boost other people. Why? Why was I cursed with this fate? All I wanted was someone to care about me as much as I cared about them. Ban me if you want, I don't even care anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 12:30 AM
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There was a post on the /r/Ireland sub a day or two ago about this. Essentially said "The housing crisis is making it impossible to get laid". The dude in the post was dating a girl who was dtf but both lived with their parents and a hotel is like €300 a night
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 08:24 AM
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Most average dudes I know are looking for equally average women. It's the women who are expecting 10/10 Mr. Perfects while putting in zero effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:10 PM
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I see some 20 year old men as children, fully grown body of an adult but still acts like a child
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 09:56 PM
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I recognise that the vast majority of rich people are assholes, doesn't mean I wouldn't rather be a rich man. In the same vein I wouldn't want to date a woman who's slept around a lot, doesn't mean I wouldn't rather be sleeping around myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 09:54 PM
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Because I'm still a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 09:47 PM
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How so? I can't see my world view changing just by not being here. And I can't see myself suddenly becoming more attractive either
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 04:41 PM
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I find entertainment here
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 04:40 PM
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Whenever people debate dating online, especially whenever the topic of height comes up; I wish people would stop misusing the word "preference". Seemingly no one can tell the difference between a preference and a requirement. It's fine to have both, but I wish people would be honest when they have a requirement in a relationship and try and soften it by saying it's a "preference". I have a height "preference", I would prefer a girl to be shorter than me but I would (and have in the past) date so…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 04:38 PM
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And not being here would somehow help me?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 04:28 PM
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I assumed you were the dude because of the original comment
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:57 PM
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The whole short and obese thing doesn't really apply to women though, it doesn't matter if a woman is short and fat they'll still get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:56 PM
2

My only relationship experiences black pilled me harder than this sub ever could.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:54 PM
7

Everyone here is nuts
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:51 PM
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I've had this personal theory that the biggest thing holding average men back on dating apps are just numbers. The statistics suggest best case scenario men out number women 4:1, and worst case it's like, 10:1. Just by the numbers alone if we assume people pair off at 1:1 ratios then that's anywhere between 3/4 to 9/10 men on dating apps who just get nothing. What I don't understand is; with dating apps now more prevalent and socially accepted, why is there still so few women using them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 05:36 PM
1

Because I don't want to upload them until I've reached my "peak" and even though I'm in better shape I still don't think I'm there yet
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 05:30 PM
1

My physique right now is better than like 90% of men but still nowhere near that top 1%. I can see where you're coming from with the social media thing. Friends have complimented me on how much bigger I look but then I see people like Jeff Nippard and I feel like I have 0 muscle mass.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 01:42 AM
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I've been hitting the gym for a little over a year and a half now and I'm pretty sure all it's done is give me body dysmorphia. My original goal, as lame as it sounds, was to get in better shape for dating apps. But right now all my profile pictures are 2 years old at least. I can't bring myself to upload new photos because, although I'm much fitter now, I keep thinking things like "your chest is poorly developed, your forearms don't stand out enough, legs could be bigger."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 01:24 AM
4

Really seems a lot better than jobs today. Amazon Warehouse Worker: Not even allowed to take a break to pee. 1980s Postman: Gets to take frequent breaks to bang stay at home moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 09:06 PM
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So in my hometown right now there's a bit of a scandal going around at the moment: Lots of people in their 30s/40s are getting blood tests done and finding out their dad is not actually their dad. Obviously the question then is; who is their actual dad? Well, a few of the parents, who are mostly 60-70 now, have fessed up and they've all named one man, who 40 years ago... was the local postman! I nearly lost my shit when I found out about this, because apparently that old urban legend of the post…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 08:51 PM
2

Probably like a 7. She looks pretty above average but not "blow your mind" attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:41 AM
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All 3: Dating market is heavily skewed in women's favour Majority of women who are worth dating are already dating another guy Of course I'm always trying to improve myself, though it does often feel pointless
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:39 AM
2

⅓ men aged 18-24 in the US aren't getting laid either
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:31 PM
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Modern dating is rapidly becoming (probably already there tbh) a two tier system for men. The proverbial "middle class" of dating (long term relationships only) is dying. It's turning into one group of guys who get physically get fucked all the time, and the other group who get metaphorically fucked all the time. Japan is pretty close to it already with 40% of men in their 20s having never been on a date compared to only 25% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:11 AM
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Why are fat women so seriously over represented on dating apps? The average girl I see day to day is a fairly healthy weight, only like 10% are overweight. But look on any dating app and like 30-50% are overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:20 AM
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Imo no woman will ever be able to relate to men when it comes to dating. Even the most successful men can relate to unsuccessful men on some level. Women however simply can't, the world is just so vastly different when it comes to dating for them. That's why you end up with women giving men a lot of shitty useless advice, they've never had to actually try in dating so they don't even know if the advice works.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 08:51 AM
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9?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 08:00 AM
1

Asexuals aren't real, they're just copers in denial. People who can't have sex probably wish they could.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 03:36 PM
1

Pretty much everything men have achieved or done was purely to increase their chances of sex. Sex sells because it's what society cares most about. It's their own private matter but they still judge others based on how much sex they're having.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 03:35 PM
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Any meaning they find outside of sex is just a cope due to lack of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 03:32 PM
2

Human beings are rather good at coping
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 11:03 AM
0

Love is meaningless without sex
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 11:02 AM
1

Why would I need therapy? I'm not depressed, I'm just realistic about how sex is viewed by society at large
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 07:32 AM
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Life is meaningless without sex, anyone who says otherwise is coping hard. From a scientific standpoint reproduction is the only reason we exist, and it's the main biological drive of all life. From an artistic standpoint art basically revolves around sex. The vast majority of songs, paintings, poems, and movies have sex as a main theme. From a social standpoint not having sex makes you an outcast. People will completely change their view of you based on if you have or have not had sex, and how …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 07:18 AM
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In my experience the minority is the girls who don't care about height. The vast majority do care, quite a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 10:26 AM
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"Don't worry about being short bro, there's lots of short girls out there too!" Meanwhile the short girls out there: https://i.imgur.com/8JBN2lE.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 10:16 AM
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For a lot of guys it's not a choice between crazy and normal, it's a choice between crazy and single. Most guys will put up with some crazy as long as they're consistently getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:41 AM
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Not a myth, moreso as I said a symptom of not taking care of yourself. If you take care of yourself you can dodge the wall, otherwise you're going to wake up one day and realise you've hit it. And it's a hell of a lot harder to try and climb over the wall than it is to just try and avoid it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:20 AM
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"The wall" imo, is just people making sense of the lack of diet and exercise in modern society. As long as you don't completely overdo it you can get away with minimal exercise and a shit diet when you're a young adult. Once you start getting older though all of it catches up on you. I've seen one girl who I had a huge crush on when I was 19 has gone from super hot to just average in the space of like 2 years; all because of the weight she's put on. Meanwhile at my local gym there are plenty of …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:12 AM
2

That's kinda the point though, not every student is. And even the ones that do it's never 100% guaranteed they'll get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:15 PM
1

True. I mean if you think about it men outnumber women 4 to 1 at best on dating apps; at best! If we assume everyone pairs off 1:1 then that means that 75% of men on apps are just out of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:12 PM
2

You'd be surprised how many virgins are in college. Not just men either. Seen a report from some English university (cambridge maybe?) that said like 1/3rd of their students were virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:08 PM
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In college, virgin, but no gf - so this question is 2/3rds suited to me. I'd be willing to wait a few months. I'd be fine just dating and getting to know each other at first, but if we were say 3 months in and she still wasn't ready then I'd be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:05 PM
2

Pug. Kinda ugly, at best some women find me "cute" but they don't really take me seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:57 PM
1

Girl 5 who has a roster would probably make me feel weird knowing she's still fucking other guys I'm just "one of them". At least with 12 you can be reasonably confident she's focused on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:56 PM
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Because men and women think each other suck for different reasons. If a woman dated a man and all he wanted was casual sex and had zero interest in going on dates or getting to know her she'd probably think he sucked. If a man dated a women who acted exactly the same as the man above he'd think he's hit the jackpot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:27 PM
2

Tried my hand at online dating again and am just being reminded of all the reasons I hated it in the first place. None more than the fact it seems like a huge percentage of users are purely there for validation and have no interest in actually dating/getting to know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:23 PM
1

Did you spam backflip with Law? I haven't played since Tekken 4 on PS2, that's all I used to do back then. I hope it still works.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:52 PM
8

You know it would probably be a lot easier for me to get laid and generally develop relationships if the housing market wasn't so fucked. A lot easier to take a girl back to your own pace than either the house share with 6 other people or your parents house...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:57 AM
1

They change the pricing based on your age. The older you are the more they charge
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:42 AM
1

Any guy who needs tinder gold wouldn't benefit that much from it. Any guy who would benefit from it doesn't need it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:41 AM
1

Ideally yes. "Dream" is the key part though, if I could pick the perfect woman to date she would be also a virgin; but I also realise any girl worth dating is more than likely not a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:23 AM
3

Play space jams "let's get ready to rumble" on the radio.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:07 PM
2

Any woman that asks you for an open relationship already has a guy in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:05 PM
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Tbh I have far more respect for women who don't cheat than men who don't cheat. Because for the average man not cheating isn't that difficult, just don't actively pursue other women. For women on the other hand all they have to do is exist and they're more than likely going to get propositioned or hit on every now and then. Women are pretty much constantly having their morals tested whereas most men have never been been in a position where they could cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:04 PM
2

Not nearly as important as the sexual aspect. If it were looks wouldn't be the main thing people look for in partners
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 05:02 AM
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I honestly don't see why any man would ever want to settle down in the modern age. If you're attractive and able to get sex casually from women there's no point going further than "girlfriend" stage with any woman. And if you're not attractive and can't get sex casually then you're just going to end up getting divorced or cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 04:53 AM
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You say "LVM" implying that the ones who support roe v wade being overturned are lvm. The problem is women are going to be "picky" based on looks, not morals. I'm overall pretty left leaning and get 0 action. Meanwhile plenty of staunch right wing guys I know who actively discourage abortion have never struggled to get laid, even by women who claim they care about abortion rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 04:39 AM
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Pretty much every time a man expresses his discontent with his sex life. Literally a few weeks ago was driving home from the gym with my gym buddy and was talking about how I really need to find a girlfriend or something and he pulls out the "there's more to life than girls".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:36 PM
2

Your missing the point though, those people don't think much about music because there's nothing stopping them from enjoying it. In this hypothetical scenario you're unable to listen to music so of course you'd end up obsessing over what you're missing. It's all too easy to just brush sex aside when know it's not something you legitimately might die without ever having experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:33 PM
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I used to live with a couple almost exactly like that. Girl was like 5'2" easily over 200lbs, also a pretty shitty girlfriend (abusive when she got drunk). The dude? He was 6ft tall, extremely athletic, and got a tonne of attention from women. I just didn't get it, he would not have struggled to find a nicer and fitter girlfriend I have no idea why he decided to stay with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:24 PM
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I don't get how so many people can just brush virginity off as "there's more to life than sex!". There's more to life than music; but if suddenly you could never listen to music, just magically became incapable of processing any form of melody or music, you'd probably be pretty upset. When all your friends are talking about going to concerts, or listening to their favourite new songs and meanwhile you just can't. Don't you think it would suck a lot of joy out of your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:12 PM
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Yeah, that'd be the point. 6'4"is tall enough that you're going to be taller than the vast majority of men save a few outliers, but still not so tall that it starts to turn women off. There's just no downsides, other than the health I guess (taller men on average die sooner). But I'd rather live a fulfilling 70 years at 6'4" than a shitty 90 years at 5'7".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:06 PM
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6'4" 200lbs
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:58 PM
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I feel like my cousin is living proof that looks are more important than social skills. He's roughly around 6'2 or 6'3, decently attractive with a fairly athletic build. He's also autistic. Like, genuinely diagnosed as a child high functioning autism; he doesn't understand social cues or sarcasm and often comes off as extremely rude when he's talking to you. Despite that he's never really struggled with dating, dated plenty of girls in high school and college. Later came out as gay and has had a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:34 AM
1

Q4All If you were magically starting life again as an average looks/intelligence 20 year old but you could choose your gender, would you want to be a man or a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 09:56 PM
1

Yes, some people have morals beyond "whatever's good for me!" Friend of mine was literally on his way home with a girl to fuck her after a night out, when her friends let it slip that she had a boyfriend. Told her on the spot he wasn't bringing her home anymore and she could go home with her friends instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 09:45 PM
4

Trust me I know what depression is. I was very depressed in my late teens, I found no enjoyment in anything and woke up every morning and couldn't get out of bed, was practically anorexic because of how little I was eating (I knew I was hungry I just couldn't find any motivation to even feed myself). My point is I can go weeks or months feeling perfectly content with life, then something will happen that reminds me of my failures in dating. Friends will be talking about sex/relationships or some…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 09:38 PM
2

I don't think it's really race based, more class based imo. I'm sure genetics play a role but I don't think it's the main thing. Rich people can afford to take better care of themselves, better dental care, better diets, more likely to have free time for exercise etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 09:21 PM
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I literally only feel depressed when I think about my lack of relationships. In every other aspect of life I'm doing fine. I have money, I have friends, I have a social life. All I don't have is someone to love romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 09:11 PM
1

Probably. I end up leaving them on read if they one-word-response me more than once.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:42 PM
1

I'll never understand the one-word-response women on Tinder. Like if you don't find me attractive then why match with me in the first place? If you don't want to talk or don't enjoy the conversation then either shift it in a direction that you like or don't reply at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:40 PM
2

I'm not even a real player at this point I've been on the bench so long.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 01:08 AM
1

She wears headphones most of the time so it'd be pretty hard to chat to her without seeming like a dick interrupting her workout. Also like I said I'm pretty shy, so I'm sure she'd catch on very quick that I was only talking to her because I'm into her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 01:04 AM
5

Really cute girl at my gym but I'm too shy to talk to her. Women like being hit on by short, awkward, sweaty guys at the gym right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 12:50 AM
1

Clearly you have to start playing Hurling for Limerick Is it an actual Limerick Jersey or just a normal tshirt?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 12:37 AM
1

Hurling, doubt most people here would be familiar with it. National sport of Ireland played for over 3000 years. It's sorta like field hockey except you're allowed to pick up the Sliotar (ball) but only using the Hurl (stick), there are travelling rules similar to basketball too. Contact is also allowed to a certain degree, you can't pull jerseys or intentionally hit them with the hurl but things like shoulder charging are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 12:19 AM
1

Used to play when I was in high school, though I mostly only played because people who played sports got to skip classes occasionally to go play matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 11:50 PM
2

I need to build a home gym. I love the gym but I always feel like shit in comparison to all the 6'4" thors that train there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 08:16 PM
9

I heard the whole men cheat more thing too, and I believed it until I got older and started seeing with my own eyes the amount if women I knew cheating on their partners. What was even more surprising to me was that it wasn't always the women you'd expect. I still remember being 19 and seeing a girl from my class straddling and making out with some random dude in a club because it was a "girls night" and her bf wasn't there. If you met this girl in class you'd think she's the kindest most down t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 03:34 PM
10

And you know full well that pilot would have an aneurism if he found out his wife was kissing some dude back home.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 10:56 PM
2

Why cats when you could have Richard Hamster?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 10:09 PM
2

I hate the three of them? Y tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 09:44 PM
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Interesting. If I were a woman I would have chosen May.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 09:33 PM
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I remember reading about this years ago: Autism Risk Rises With Mothers Age ​ TL;DR: There's a direct correlation between the age a woman is when she has a child and the chance that child ends up being autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 09:23 PM
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Q4W: Jeremy Clarkson, James May, or Richard Hammond?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 09:17 PM
3

I feel like this subs pretty much run its course, theres very little discussion about "pills" or modern dating. Feels like it's nothing but people either telling the opinions about the opposite sex or just shit completely unrelated to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 01:45 AM
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This whole being alone thing wouldn't be so bad if you weren't constantly reminded of other peoples love. You'll just be chilling and feeling fine, then you'll see that post in your feed from that girl you had a crush on in high school on the beach with her fiance, and all of a sudden you're reminded of the fact that you're still alone when most people you know have already found love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 10:27 PM
1

Anything over like 2 or 3 probably. I could live with that if it was just ex boyfriends and shit. I wouldn't be happy long term dating a woman with number higher than that though. Purely because I know I'd be resentful of the fact she got to live out her wild years then now wants to settle down. Basically I refuse to be a beta buxs. If she's also a virgin or low N count then its different, but if she's had a bunch of wild sex and now wants to settle down I'd leave. I'd legitimately rather be alo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 10:17 PM
1

No. All of my friends have had sex, probably my closest friend hasn't had sex in a long time (as far as I know) but he's at least got laid once or twice. Some of friends get laid every other week. I'm 100% the least sexually successful. In terms of money I'm pretty middle ground, better than some worse than others. Edit: I have some aquantinces who i suspect are virgins but everyone who I'd 100% consider a friend is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 10:01 PM
2

It's much harder to get into a relationship as a man, way harder than as a woman. Thus men are more willing to settle because they know they'll struggle to get into another one. Women on the other hand can break up with one guy and be dating another before the end of the day. So they don't fear losing a relationship like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 06:16 PM
3

Why did God have to make me short, self-aware, and desperate for affection. Lowkey wish I could be one of those guys who's just autistically into trains or something. Managing my mental health would be a lot easier if I could just go look at trains to make myself happy instead of trying to distract myself from the very real possibility of dying alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 01:34 AM
2

Tbh being 5'11" wouldn't even be bad, you could just claim 6ft on the apps and it's not like any 5'6" girl is gonna know. You wont get away with that at 5'8" though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 02:19 AM
4

"Girls just want guys slightly taller than them." So that was a lie, I'm taller than the average girl by about 2" but according to those stats 9/10 women would still immediately reject me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 04:36 PM
11

Does anyone else remember like 3 or 4 years ago when people in red/black pill spaces would joke "Haha minimum height is now 6'2" not 6'0", it goes up by one to two inches every year." Apparently these women took it literally. I mean jesus christ, so many unironically looking for 6'4" minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 04:34 PM
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Something I noticed anecdotally in OLD: The older you set your age range the more demanding they seem to get. Girls in the 19-early 20s range mostly just have jokes and shit in their bio. Set it to like 29+ though and all I see is a bio that's a list of demands. Oh yeah and I know it's a cliche but these women have not taken care of themselves. As bad as it is for young guys I dont know how older guys are supposed to find anyone. It's basically "you have to love me for me, I get to reject you fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 04:27 PM
2

Sure they will
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 03:57 AM
2

Sure they do
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 03:54 AM
4

Not really, not specific just general.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 03:33 AM
5

You should be
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 03:29 AM
7

You just reminded me again, day ruined a second time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 03:11 AM
21

Wake up, remember modern women exist, day ruined.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:53 AM
4

At what point does the "slut phase" stop being a phase, I know girls well into their mid 20s still fiddle fucking around in nightclubs and holding out only for prince charming. Seems like it's less of a "phase" and more just how modern women want to date...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:55 AM
2

Doesn't seem to differentiate between men and women but I'd put money on it that if it looked purely at men that number would be higher. From what I see in my day to day life any guy who isn't all 3 of tall + social + attractive struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:51 AM
2

Something like that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:07 AM
9

Realising you're too short for clubs 😪
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:50 AM
1

Already know two guys on it, they'd point me in the right direction if I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:18 PM
1

Tuition is cheaper but rent can still be expensive depending on the country. Also it might just be played up online but the party side/general college life seems more enjoyable in America. You can get just as of an education in Europe but like the other guy said I think you'd enjoy your time in college more in America. It might just be my friend group but I don't know many people in Europe who look back on college as the "best time in their lives". A lot of people I know in my country just lived…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:30 AM
3

Seriously considering TRT, biggest thing stopping me is I don't want to constantly inject myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:07 AM
2

So in both cases of wealth and relationships you think it's entirely free-will and there's no external factors that could possibly influence it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:00 PM
2

"It's your own fault, pull yourself up by your bootstraps" - People who've never struggled to get sex/relationships "It's your own fault, pull yourself up by your bootstraps" - Millionaires
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:01 PM
2

"Not having sex and relationships isn't even a big deal, there's more to life than that." - Person who has never struggled to get sex/relationships. "Being poor isn't even a big deal, there's more to life than money." - Millionaire
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 10:30 AM
1

In my experience, at least from the perspective of men, they want to see you do well but not better than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 01:03 PM
5

Tinder as a man looks very similar to job hunting. Found it kinda funny, it supports the whole "dating as a man is like trying to find a job" rhetoric. Here's tinder as a woman for comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 02:19 PM
4

They don't ogle or sexually assault me. Then again I'm short and ugly so...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 10:57 PM
2

I like a nice ass, but a nice ass doesn't just mean "big". Quality over quantity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 10:48 PM
15

Used to love nature documentaries as a kid but they're so depressing now. They show you footage of some cool animals and then they end it with "Their population has halved in the last 10 years due to climate change. Most of the ones born today are also malnourished."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 10:00 PM
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Then you get mocked even more for being short and insecure about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 09:18 PM
1

Primarily, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 09:13 PM
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I spend every other day in the gym. Doesn't make up for height
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:50 PM
1

It was only like 5 messages in. He was asking her about some festival (she must have had something in her profile about it idk) and she was all smiles in her texts then just out of nowhere followed it up with sorry I thought you were the other guy in your photos. It would be straight gaslighting to suggest that it was actually the conversation and not the fact she was turned off by his looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:56 PM
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A friend of mine just sent me a tinder convo he had. It was going well until the woman was just abruptly like "sorry, I thought you were a different guy in your photos" He has multiple photos, some single photos some with his friends. This is confusing to me because I was assured by the women on r tinder that it's mostly personality and conversations they care about, and looks are only a small factor. Surely this woman didn't completely change her mind about him after realising he's not as hot a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:46 PM
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These are the women who seemingly "can't find any guy who wants a relationship" Translation: "I can't get hot guys to date me"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:39 PM
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Ye
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:05 PM
5

With a red flag that big people will assume you're a communist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 12:10 PM
3

Keep thinking about one of my first housemates in college that I'm 80% sure wanted to fuck me but I was too socially retarded at the time to realize it and too much of a pussy to make a move even if I had've.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 12:05 PM
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A friend of mine, who is objectively more attractive than me, went to meet a girl she straight up said to his face "sorry, I thought you'd be more attractive." This dude is 6'1, in very good shape, has a decent job (accountant), and is pretty good looking. If he's getting rejected by, a fairly average i might add, woman for being ugly then there's 0 hope for guys like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:33 AM
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"Guys care about height too" - I see this brought up a lot on here, and while there is some truth to it, it's not really the same. Guy's with height preferences will be like "I want her to be the same height or shorter than me." Girls with height preferences on the other hand are like "I want him to be taller when compared to other guys."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 12:36 PM
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It is, they like to dress up like that for livestreams
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 05:25 PM
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I know people on here think it's strictly hypergamy but I think there's also an element of choice paralysis that comes with OLD that doesn't really exist in real life. More choice isn't always better, and it's been found that when you give a person too many choices they'll often get overwhelmed and make no choice, or constantly be second guessing the choice they made. Imagine if you were only allowed 1 car for the reset of your life, and there were 5 different options you could choose from. Most…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 04:25 PM
1

In the age of OLD it's more likely that they'll just move onto a different man who isn't waiting around.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 04:09 PM
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This is what a true chad looks like
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 03:59 PM
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Over half of them dont even respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 12:23 AM
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Come back to me in 2 weeks. Tinder boosts new accounts in the algorithm. I was getting dozens of matches too when I first created my account, 2 weeks later and it's down to a handful a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 12:19 AM
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Q4W who is the more attractive Ferrari driver, Charles Leclerc or Carlos Sainz?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 11:04 AM
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18
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 10:45 AM
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In my experience at least where I live they often explicitly state stuff like "6ft+ ➡️➡️ 👀" in their bios despite being like 5'1" as their listed height
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 04:04 AM
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5'6.5" is my exact barefoot height, could call myself 5'7" and hardly anyone would notice though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 03:58 AM
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Trying to find a date as a short guy and all I run into is: Tall girls: "i'm tall so I need a tall guy" Average girls: "I like wearing heels, so you need to be tall" Short girls: "I just have a preference for tall guys" sigh
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 03:51 AM
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It's been my experience that these 20-something women refuse to compromise on anything when looking for a man. I know a lot of women in their mid-20s, struggling to find a man to marry, and the real reason why is because their standards are just so unbelievably high. The women that I know in their mid-20s are looking for Mr. Perfect. And Mr. Perfect is charming, funny, and exciting but he's also reasonably attractive, works a good job, and has at least a bachelors degree. Sometimes they'll find …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 12:39 PM
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If a dudes going for a thicc woman he's probably into that body type, if he's going for a fat woman then he's probably just desperate. I don't think men really even consider their dick size when hitting on women unless they're really insecure about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 12:18 PM
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What's your definition of "thicc"? Actual thicc women are hot and I think the majority of guys are into them. In modern days though the term has been co-opted by overweight women who don't want to admit they're overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 12:06 PM
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Last time I took the bus a tweeker who smelled like piss sat down right next to me and started rocking back and forth the whole way to my stop. I may have a shitty car these days but I love my shitty car way more than the bus.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:40 PM
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Given the title I expected to be linked to some red pill forum, but nope it's an article written by a woman lol. It seems funny to me though that they're on one hand saying these are "average men", then on the other saying they act like they do because they have boatloads of attention from women. If he's getting lots of attraction from lots of women then he's probably not average.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:11 PM
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Wow that sucks, was it a friend or something that stole it? Just asking because a Lego set seems like an odd thing for a home invader to steal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 09:37 PM
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Lego seems to hold it's value very well, I wish I had've held onto all the Lego sets I got over the years as a kid. Looking up on bricklink how much my lego sets would be worth today honestly makes me a bit upset. My parents got me and my brother a Lego AT-TE one Christmas that cost around €70 at the time, it would nowadays be worth €200 used and €400 new.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 09:26 PM
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If the 2nd group is happy then they most likely achieved their goal so there is no need to continue lifting. Maintenance work is important though. All that "value", as you say, that they gained will erode away over time if they stop going.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 08:34 PM
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Men who who lift for mental health, or physical health, reasons will continue to do so as it will continue to keep them happy. I was at my happiest and most driven when I consistently hitting the gym, I haven't been there in over a week now since I caught Covid and I can definitely say both my mood and general life motivation has been way down. The guys who are most likely to quit imo are the ones who are doing it purely to get girls. They either quit once they don't get more attention from wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 08:26 PM
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I have contracted covid. My beta genetics fail me again.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 12:04 AM
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There was a study a while ago that said most people hit on people ~25% more attractive than them. So those women who are failing are more than likely shooting out of their league
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 10:02 AM
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Plant steroids have similar effects to testosterone when used on humans, not that far fetched to think plant estrogen would do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 10:11 PM
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How is Cillian Murphy considered attractive by so many women? He literally just looks weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 04:36 AM
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Every time I match with an attractive girl on dating apps: "Wow she's really cute, I can't believe no guys dating her" *One conversation later* "Oh yeah, that explains it..."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:51 PM
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It coincides with things like men dropping out of education more, and rising male suicide rates though. I'm sure there were always men who felt dissatisfied with, but it sure seems like there's a lot more now than there was before.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 10:11 PM
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Seems like every year the "mannosphere" (for lack of a better term) grows larger and becomes more mainstream. It used to be just fringe online shit, but now you see it everywhere and even seen plenty of men irl spouting red pill beliefs. So you've got these huge swaths of men basically feeling dissatisfied life; and the response from the general public is just to yell at these men more and call them losers rather than actually try and address any of the issuses that might be making them feel thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 09:52 PM
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The best way I can explain it is it's kinda like money. You ask a rich man what he wants most in life he'll probably mention health, family, happiness, etc. Ask that same question to a poor man and more often than not the answer is he wants money desperately. Now replace money with sex, and then realise we live in a world where the vast majority of women are "sexually rich". They have never had to worry about not being able to get laid, so it's not even something they think about as an issue in …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 09:34 PM
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Nope, he said he didn't wanna get involved with that. He gets plenty of action anyway so it's not as if he was desperate for this one lay.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 01:25 AM
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Just hanging around those kinds men would open most men's eyes. Similar to you I have two friends who'd be considered "chaddish". Seeing women who were in long term relationships, who I previously thought were the type of women who'd never cheat, pretty much thrust themselves on these guys was eye-opening. Literally just a few weeks ago one of these guys brining a girl home from the bar, and halfway there he finds out she's actually in a perfectly fine 3 year relationship, she just wanted to fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 09:52 PM
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Always assumed cougars were just a porn thing, personally never encountered a woman that preferred younger men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 12:58 AM
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Purely from personal experience (albeit anecdotal) I think this is a case of correlation ≠ causation. Video games have been a growing market for a long time, so it's really not a shock that young adults are playing them more now than before. I've known dudes who were super into CoD, or FIFA, or DOTA, or whatever that still had girlfriends and relationships. Similarly I know a guy who was huge into drinking and partying, never really got into videogames, still has little success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 12:59 PM
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I'm not 40 yet lol, I'm 23. I was just referencing the movie "40 year old virgin". Because similar to the scene in that movie it would be really fucking embarrassing if he figured out I'm this old and still a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 11:35 PM
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Was pretty close yesterday to having a real life 40yo virgin moment. Coming home from the gym with a bodybuilder friend of mine, long drive so we had a lot of time chat. Somehow we eventually start sharing stories of funny one night stands. He had a lot of pretty funny stories from both himself and guys he knew. I on the other hand could tell him stories about housemates or friends. I was legit pretty worried the whole ride that he might piece together the fact that I'm a virgin lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 11:23 PM
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Looks wise the only real hard requirement I'd have is that she's reasonably in shape. She doesn't have to be an Instagram fitness model, she doesn't have to have big tits or a huge ass, literally just don't be fat. I have a soft spot for brown eyes too but it's not something that would make or break a partner. Beyond that it's pretty much someone I could get along with, someone who could make me smile. If talking to them feels like drawing blood from a stone then no amount of looks will overcome…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 09:15 AM
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Recurring theme I see on here: "Men don't understand women and dating, it's not all red pill and black pill. It's more like this:" - proceeds to post red pill/black pill shit but worded different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:38 AM
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That's pretty much how I always interpreted it when women said they want "nice guys". I think where a lot of niceguys™ come from is the fact that most women will choose attractive + not nice, over nice + not attractive. It's like imagine someone told you they just want a nice reliable car, that's easy on fuel. Then you show them a 2008 Toyota Avensis and they turn it down because it's not fast and doesn't look cool. A week later you see them roll up in a Mazda RX-7 FD. And you're like "cool car,…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:50 AM
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She was single for a short period of time I knew her, but again I wasn't about to fly across the globe to shoot my shot
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 03:48 PM
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Not that simple unfortunately. It would literally mean moving to another continent. I definitely would have taken my shot and asked her out if she lived closer to me, but I'm not going to uproot my whole life for a girl a kinda know and get along with. Add to the fact she already has a long term boyfriend, I'm not that naive I know she's never seen me as anything other than an online friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 03:10 PM
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two children (shes 23) Well at least you know she kept her anti-abortion stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 01:06 PM
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I can't say for other health professions, but most nurses I've seen fit the same stereotype. They're usually very carefree, especially when it comes to sex, a lot of them seem to be attractive/in decent shape, and sometimes they're a bit nutty. It's actually insane how many nurses fit that stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 12:56 PM
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So far in my life I've only ever known one girl whose personality matched with mine almost perfectly, to the point we ended up good friends for almost 3 years. And of course she lived over 3,000 miles away lmao. All I can do is hope some day I can find a woman who I get along with as well as I got along with her. Looking at my local dating scene though it doesn't seem likely...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 10:23 AM
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I've never understood how people could just sit down and eat cheese on it's own
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 02:37 AM
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I just figured it'd be unpopular because while a lot of people recognize the negative effects the internet has had not many would actually want to live in a world without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 02:33 AM
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Probably a really unpopular opinion on here but I think society would have been better off if the internet never existed. At least from the perspective of mental health I think the average person would lead a far happier life if they were living in a timeline where the internet was never invented.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 02:17 AM
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I don't know how these things work in the US, whether you have to vote to change the policy itself or vote in representatives to change policies, but I imagine that those women will secretly vote to bring back abortion while simultaneously telling everyone they hope it stays illegal. Either that or they'll sneak out of state to get an abortion, while again shitting on women who do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 01:20 AM
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I’m very intrigued to see how it plays out with the “the only moral abortion was my abortion” crowd. Reading some of those stories was wild, literally 0 self awareness in all of them. I'd put money on it that those women are the same ones spouting "I think cheating is despicable, no one is loyal these days" while secretly cheating on their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 01:11 AM
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3 years ago the vote to legalise abortion was going on in Ireland, and I still remember a bunch of Christian-Americans showing up outside my university one day to protest asking us to "vote no". It was wild to me, like literally some religious group in America apparently organised flights to fly hundreds of people to protest in a different country...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 11:40 AM
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In Ireland in 2015 the government accidentally legalized a bunch of drugs like meth, ketamine, and mushrooms, for 1 day before they fixed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 09:19 AM
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Women lose all respect for a guy as soon as he opens up about his feelings. I don't know if they do it consciously or subconsciously but it happens. So many have experience with it that they quickly learn showing emotions in front of women is something they should never ever do. I've had it happen to me with women in my life, and I'm sure a lot of guys have had it happen with their partners. It's like a light switch, they go from treating you with respect to treating you like a little bitch. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 01:26 PM
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They do, they're just secretive about it. I know if at least 2 women who I was in school with that got abortions in their late teens/early 20s. Both of them were "oops" babies with their boyfriends that they just decided to abort. They didn't tell a soul except for their closest friends, who of course ended blabbing which is how I found out lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 12:34 PM
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The only word for it is delusional. Those women are the same as the 40 year old divorced guy, baldig with a body made of pudding, who for some reason thinks he's got a shot with the hot 21 year at his gym... It's one thing to try for someone just a bit out of your league, but it baffles me when people demand the most desirable partners while bringing almost nothing themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 02:55 PM
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Yeah the same 8+ dudes though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:43 AM
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You can get an OBD Scanner relatively cheap that will work for a lot of basic fault codes. They can't detect all issues but they are pretty handy (Again, some serious issues will require dealership diagnostic equipment). An uncle of mine had a problem with his car last year, stuck in "limp mode", had basically no power in the engine and the engine management was stuck on. Plugged in an OBD Scanner and turned out it was just a $15 crankshaft-sensor that was broken, replaced that and the car was b…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 11:20 PM
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Couple of guys I know have been complimenting me on how big I've gotten over the course of the last year. Yet every time I look in the mirror I think "I'm so fucking scrawny, I need to get bigger." Is this what body dysmorphia feels like?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 10:55 PM
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Mechanics charge a fuck load for labour. I never bring my car to a mechanic unless something is way outside my depth or requires diagnostic equipment I don't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 10:20 PM
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Type of mint chocolate, maybe they don't have them outside the UK idk
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:55 PM
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It's only half true these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:45 PM
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Can you seriously say you don't like After Eights?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:42 PM
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I highly recommend you watch this video: https://youtu.be/L30_hfuZoQ8
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:33 PM
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I like mint icecream :(
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:06 PM
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Would you rather it the other way around though? Imo it's better to be the guy she wants to fuck but not date, than be the guy she wants to date but not fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 06:42 PM
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As a man for me it's body. Both have their thresholds though. My rationale is that, given the choice, I'd take a (5/10 looks 10/10 body) any day over the inverse. If I'm being honest I'd even say I'd prefer (4/10 looks 8/10 body) over (8/10 looks 6/10 body).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 08:02 PM
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Obesity is a big problem in my country and every time I see someone way overweight I feel so bad for them. I try and encourage all my friends to take up some form of fitness. Your life just becomes so much harder when you're overweight/obese. You'll struggle more than most with dating, your joints will be fucked, and your heart under constant stress. Gotta take care of your body guys, you only get one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:42 PM
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My grandmother died of lung cancer in her 50s and my grandfather never dated or remarried after that. He had the opportunity but he loved my grandmother too much and felt he would be "betraying" her memory if he started dating other women after she died. (he was also super religious so that's also probably part of it.) It's crazy to me, to know that story about my grandfather, and then come on here and see "Well he was sad for a few weeks, so naturally I cheated on him first chance I got!"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 12:23 AM
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You partially addressed it sure, but you also implied that I was arguing that "women owe me sex" which is an easy to defeat argument and wasn't the original one. More to the point though I don't see why it should be just ignored. You can use the "not society's problem" argument against a lot of things. Society doesn't entitle everyone to happiness, yet we devote a lot of effort and resources to fighting depression. I don't see why we shouldn't address whatever's causing men to be depressed the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 11:44 PM
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Man the straw manning on here gets really tiring at times. All I said was society needs to address WHY people are ending up as virgins, be it because of a lack of socialisation or whatever. Where in my comment did I suggest that women owe me sex? You've done exactly what I was criticising too. Completely refused to even entertain the idea that it might be a symptom of something wrong with modern society and immediately jumped to pinning the blame solely on the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 11:28 PM
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It's interesting to me that with almost every problem in modern society people look at the full picture; and examine what could have lead to that situation. For example when obesity rates are rising people are quick to tout the changes in our diets and lifestyles in recent generations. But when virginity rates are increasing all of a sudden it's just personal responsibility, everyone rejects the idea that huge cultural changes in recent decades could have lead to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 10:07 PM
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Him: 3. Could be a 5 or 6 if he got better glasses and got in good shape. Me: it's impossible to accurately rate yourself. If I had to say I'd say 4 or 5. I have a weird dichotomy about my looks. On one hand I've had tinder matches tell me they think I'm hot, and I have been occasionally hit on irl by both girls and gay guys. On the other hand I'm still a virgin, and if I really was "hot" I would have lost it long ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 01:14 PM
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Imo the pandemic was a catalyst that accelerated trends that already existed. I've similarly also heard some of my friends, who don't use reddit and have no idea what "pills" even are, bitching and complaining about women and dating. I think most of them are just seeing and experiencing what most guys on here are. Average dudes struggling on dating apps, struggling to get a gf, then seeing their hot male friend bang a different girl every week. It's all just coming to a pass now, so many men str…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 01:05 PM
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The 6 6 6 thing is a bit of a meme, but I'm sorry you're naive if you think looks don't play a huge role in pretty much every relationship. If you were ugly she probably might have been friends with her but you wouldn't have back at her apartment getting it on with her. Be honest, if she was obese and ugly would you still be stoked to sleep with her when you found out she was a "music girl"? That's ultimately what people on here are talking about. It sucks when you're below average looks or heig…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 09:07 AM
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Fake nudes being spread around, especially if someone is claiming it's their "real nudes". If you've been following the semi-recent Blizzard controversy you'll know how horrible a situation it can be if you're being sexually harassed. Now imagine a woman working in a job like that, and now a big rumour starts about how much of a slut she is after her "nudes" are shared to everyone around the office. And all it took was some dude making a deepfake and sharing it to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 08:54 AM
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Is there any data that shows it by age range? I have a suspicion that it's skewed by older people. I see lots of people late 30s+ walking around who are clearly overweight, but the average early 20s woman really doesn't seem to be all that fat. No doubt if you go by mean everyone is fatter, and I haven't looked at the data, but I bet if you go by the mode it's relatively unchanged.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 08:35 AM
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Honestly think being short and/or ugly is going to hinder you more than actually being autistic. I say this because I have a second cousin who was diagnosed with asperger's syndrome when he was a child. He's definitely a bit odd, the fact he struggles to relate to people and their emotions really shows. But, despite genuinely having asperger's, he's tall (like 6'2"), family is pretty well off, and can pull off the "pretty boy" look. He had plenty of success with women, came out as gay a few year…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 06:30 AM
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As someone early 20s I disagree. If you're genuinely average as a dude I think you'll have an easier time finding a relationship than a one night stand. It's not difficult to find a guy to fuck you on tinder so naturally they only go for the hot guys for ONS. For a LTR though an average guy has a decent shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:56 PM
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The job or the living situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:47 PM
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Yes average men can find partners on dating apps. But make no mistake, the odds are NOT in your favour. Friend of mine is almost the same height as me (I'm 5'6", he's 5'7"), overweight by BMI (like 80kg), literally has a receding hair line too, yet still has gotten 2 relationships off Tinder. It takes a very long time though, and a shit load of effort. You have to have to have a good profile with good photos, you're going to have to deal with a lot of ghosting, you have to dedicate a lot of time…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:44 PM
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Again, harping back to malcom in the middle (it honestly the best thing I can think of to describe this situation that a lot of people will understand) you'd be a bit like Louis working at Lucky Aide. You just kind of do it because you have to; your job doesn't bring you fulfillment but it's not torture.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:48 PM
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The Great Gatsby was really just a story contrasting Beta Bux Jay Gatsby, and Alpha Fucks Tom Buchanan. Think about it, Gatsby spends his whole life orbiting a woman (Daisy) who doesn't give a fuck about him, and is not as perfect as he thinks she is. Even when he thought he worked his way to her level it still didn't matter. Tom on the other hand? Born into money, married the woman Gatsby loves but doesn't really care that much about her. Cucks his mechanic cause he thinks his wife is hot and k…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 05:43 PM
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The difference is a woman can say she's cheating and there'll still be a line of guys willing to nail her. It has no effect on her ability to get laid. A guy on the other hand is gonna significantly reduce his chances if he's open about the fact he's cheating, as even women who want a ONS won't want to sleep with him if he's cheating. Why should he tell the woman he's cheating with that he actually had a partner? Moral integrity? He's already cheating on his partner so fat chance he gives a fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 04:31 PM
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I've only ever been on one date with a taller girl (she asked me out surprisingly). Honestly I didn't care that she was taller than, significantly so too, I'm like 5'6" and she was 5'11". She all smiles sitting down and talking to me but when we stood up it was clear she looked a bit upset at the fact I was a solid 5 inches shorter than her. Did it bother me a little bit? Sure but not as much as it seemed to bother her. I honestly got the vibe that the only reason she asked me out was because sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 11:00 AM
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Some of them due to awkwardness and unconfidence because I don't go on dates often, which was immediately a huge turnoff for them. One of them I decided not to continue after because she came off as a little bit crazy. She kept talking about how she's ready to settle down and feels like she wants to have a child as soon as possible (we were both 19 at the time). I didn't go on a second date with her because I was honestly a bit put off by how eager she was to get immediately pregnant. Said she d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 10:26 AM
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Curious about your guys take on this To me it's not too uncommon from what I've heard men in my personal life parroting. A lot of lads who are otherwise doing just fine in life seem to be struggling romantically, and now they're left asking "why?"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 05:41 AM
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Blackrock (investment company) was snapping up homes to then lease as rentals during the pandemic, they're clearly hoping for a "rent forever" future.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 05:36 AM
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The British pharmaceutical industry literally started bitching and complaining about how "unfair" it is that they're not allowed to advertise in the EU. They would fucking love for people to start pestering their doctors for drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 05:25 AM
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I'm from the EU. They don't run ads for antidepressants like they do in the US, purely because it's illegal to advertise prescription drugs. Doctors still over-prescribe them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 05:20 AM
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Unfortunately the standard of therapy in my country is pretty low. If you apply for therapy you get put on a waiting list for anywhere between 6 months to 2 years before you'll even see a therapist. In most cases it's gonna be at least a year. I'm glad it worked for you it's just that from personal experience with people I've seen in my life (Believe me, I've known plenty of people who've gone on antidepressants), they don't seem to come out any better on the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 04:04 AM
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I mentioned it in another reply but basically try and address whatever is making you depressed as best you can over the long term. And in the meantime you gotta get some goals to work on. Fitness, education, side projects, art, whatever it takes to give you a sense of purpose. You should also probably cut out or limit anything that's exasperating the depression. I for example completely stopped using OLD because I wasn't having any success and all it was doing was feeding my depression. If Insta…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 03:57 AM
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Well for me I was depressed due to my lack of a relationship. I'm tryna fix the root cause over a long period of time, and in the meantime filling your life with things to distract you from it can help. Lifting is a pretty big one at the moment, long term it might help me to get a relationship and in the short term it gives me a goal to focus on. Plus the endorphin release after exercise is no joke, it really does help your mood. I got off dating apps until I could improve myself too. I was havi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 03:51 AM
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Been depressed for a lot of my life and found other ways to deal with it rather than just jumping on antidepressants. Genuinely don't know why people are so eager to hop on them, or why doctors hand them out like candy. Everyone I know who went on SSRIs became a shell of a human and said it barely even effected their depression; because the root cause was still there. I hate how pharmaceutical companies have pushed this idea that you can just start fucking with your endocrine system as a magic b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 03:29 AM
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Pandemic has just made meeting people irl even harder. Dating apps are honestly you're best shot as sad as it sounds. Get in better shape and improve your photos is all you can really do if you're struggling on there too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 03:15 AM
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If an average, or below average, man started saying he'll only date the hot girls everyone would tell him to stop being so picky about looks. How do people justify chastising those men but when an average or below average woman does the same all of a sudden it's "that's okay, she just has a preference for the top 20% of men."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 01:04 PM
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Is that necessarily a bad thing though? If you ask me, yes. Humans are naturally social, we don't enjoy being alone for long periods of time and I think relationships are the same. I think the thing with women being unhappy is if they didn't secure a husband AND they want kids. If they want kids they're on a biological clock, and trying to raise a kid by herself isn't going to work out well for her or the kid. And I'm not just saying that to "dunk on" single moms. Growing up in a single parent h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 09:16 AM
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Man I feel you, no guy wants red pill to be true they just have to accept it is. I'd love to live in a genuine blue pill world where women liked me because we had matching hobbies, interests and personalities, not because of my height and looks. Unfortunately that's just not the world we live in. Also, maybe a bit if a hot-take, but I think no one sees it as an issue now but they will in the future. You don't stay 20 forever, and as these women leave their 20s they'll see more and more of the ""…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 12:29 AM
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Nope, most men have a "quit while you're ahead" approach to dating. Literally an average girl who is genuinely into him is all it takes for most guys to be content. You have to keep in mind most men don't have options like most women do when it comes to dating. So if a guy was in that situation he'd take the first passable girl and run, he's not going to keep pushing his luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 11:56 PM
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Hey man, all you gotta do is dress nice, be kind and respectful, don't be too pushy when talking to women. Then when that's all done the women in your life will look at you and think "wow, that guy is definitely gay"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 02:38 PM
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I have no clue who either of these people are (I don't use tiktok that much) But I will say that guy did a poor job of getting across the point that I think he was trying to get across and the woman was pure gaslighting. When he says "there's certain things that women find attentive that only some men can meet" I'm pretty sure the point he's trying to get across is things like height, face, and build. Things that guys have absolutely no control over (except for build I guess, but even then bone …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 01:33 PM
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I literally knew a (very fat) girl who locked down a a guy in amazing shape simply because she asked him out. You'd be surprised what little options men have. Unless they're genuinely shooting way out of their league (as in only going for the guys EVERY girl wants) then they can do just fine dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 10:20 PM
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I have similar feelings about weight. Some women carry weight better than others, tbh I don't consider myself "picky about weight" in that I don't care if you're carrying a few extra pounds. Hell I know a couple of women who fall into the "overweight" category but I'd still say they're incredibly attractive. There's a limit though, at a certain point it becomes something I can't overlook. It sucks because I've had 2 girls in my life who were super into me, both of them were pretty nice girls but…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:07 PM
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Women are able to support themselves just fine these days so they literally don't care how well off you are. Most important thing women are looking for is height. Legitimately everything else comes second to height as a man dating in 2021. Doesn't surprise me that he's struggling at 5'7", he could be perfect in every other way but none of it matters when he's not at least 5'10"+
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:24 AM
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Boobs to men are like abs to women. It's a bonus sure but not the be all and end all. And having visible abs because you're underweight isn't really the same as having them because you're in amazing shape. Similarly having big boobs because you're overweight isn't the same as having them when you're in shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 12:43 PM
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The looks bar being so high is also why the effort bar is so low. Ugly guys figure what's the point in trying when women are just going to choose the hot guys no matter what. And the hot guys quickly realize they can put in 0 effort and still have a line of girls waiting for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:02 PM
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If a girl doesn't want to sleep with you she doesn't find you attractive. I don't want to be in a relationship with a girl who doesn't find me sexually attractive because that's just just going to end with her breaking up with you or cheating on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 06:50 PM
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A guy with a job who likes to make her smile and see her be happy. What a nightmare, women would hate to sleep with him. I legitimately have heard women say that while they love their partner and everything he does for them he's just not sexually attractive to them. Implying that he's doing everything right but he lost the genetic lottery and now she wants a hotter man. It's the reason why the idea of "AFBB" became so popular, so many men trapped in sexless relationships because she doesn't find…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 09:49 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:19 PM
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Had plenty of female friends in HS, not as many in college but that was mostly due to how male dominated engineering degrees are. If the dudes still trying then it's clearly not "resilience" that's the issue. That's just a cop out to try and blame men for the rate of sexlessness rising dramatically among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:57 AM
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The data suggests that men go after every woman then women only swipe right on the top most attractive guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:34 AM
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The guy who won't use dating apps is 5'9", average weight (not overweight but not a lean cut guy either), not bald, doesn't look like model but doesn't look ugly either. Pretty much bog standard average looks, he has a wide group of friends so clearly he's not socially retarded. Has a good job too (engineer fresh out of college making decent money). The other guys are similar to this guy but with varying heights and jobs. I'm not sure how old you are but it really isn't as easy you think for you…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:18 AM
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Lol one of them refuses to even try Tinder and has only tried meeting women at bars/nightclubs or through hobbies and friends. The other guys have only been using online dating for the past year or so but that's only because everything's been perpetually shut for the past year so online was the only option. Before that they would have done both.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 09:48 AM
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From what I hear China has decided to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:46 AM
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Man I was literally reading a post on the datingoverthirty sub a while ago that was similar to this and had the same feeling. It was a different post but the exact same premise. Woman was in her thirties talking about going on several dates with a man but hadn't slept with him yet. Meanwhile she met some guy at a bar the night before and brought him home to fuck immediately, then she was wondering why guy she went on several dates with would be upset by that. This is literally what men on here a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:37 AM
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I keep seeing women on here suggest that men are failing because they only want to date 9/10 or 10/10 women. And I can't help but feel like that's just projection because that is not the case with men I know who are struggling dating. Most average guys I know are going after average women, and most below average guys are going after below-average women too. The women just don't want to date them, because they all don't want to settle for an average guy despite being average themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:14 AM
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It all depends on proportions imo. A 6'5" guy will be more attractive provided his body is proportional and not lanky. Shaq is like 7ft or something but he's proportionally sized so he doesn't look like a freak.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 12:57 AM
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Given the choice I'd rather be 6'5" and bald than 5'6" with a full head of hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:49 AM
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I think it's a factor for sure but I disagree that it's specifically what's causing it. The number of people living on campus, or renting, in college hasn't really changed at all yet the number of men getting laid in college has gone down. I know it's anecdotal but I can personally think of about dozens of guys off the top of my head who I know that went to college, rented, and still either never got laid or rarely got laid. All of those guys are fairly average too (average height, average face,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 10:47 PM
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You're trying to make a strawman out of the argument. The original point was that (most) women aren't going to give you an honest answer about why you're struggling especially when it comes to looks. But yes I have had women say they "don't care about height or muscles" and all they want is a nice sweet sensitive guy. My point was that listening to that advice will do you more harm than good, because most of the time they're only saying that to not hurt your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 01:32 PM
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Being vulnerable Essentially that, blue pill would say there's nothing wrong with exposing your vulnerability to women. Red pill would say she'll see your insecurities as weakness and get turned off by it. That doesn't mean "be a robot", there's nothing wrong with being empathetic like a normal human just don't "be vulnerable".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 12:37 PM
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I've never seen a blue pill person suggest you should hide your emotions around women. Most of them say "women like guys who are in touch with their emotions". Being completely stoic is something I mosty see peddled by the red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 11:59 AM
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Taking womens advice on dating is what lead me to become "some loser". In my experience the vast majority women are never going to give you an honest answer. They're more concerned with saving your feelings or making you feel happy rather than telling you what you actually need to hear. Most "red pill" advice (excluding the PUA bullshit) is exactly the same advice my friends who've been successful dating have given. It mostly boils down to: be confident, don't act emotional around women, hit the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 10:11 AM
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If height doesn't matter why are so many women terrified of having short kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 08:40 AM
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It matters a lot, it's just not the only thing women want. On their own Chris Hemsworth and Tom Holland are attractive, but if you asked a room full of women which they prefer every single one is going to pick Chris Hemsworth because he's taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 08:24 AM
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Yeah that seemed interesting to me too, it actually somewhat seems to follow the economy which is weird. It seems that when the economy is up virginity is up, and when the economy crashes more people are having sex. If you look at the graph you can see it rise around the late 90s with the dot com bubble, then it crashes back down a bit just as the dot com bubble crashes...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 03:24 PM
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I never said they weren't having premarital sex? I said they weren't fucking on the first date. Hookups are far more socially accepted these days, literally to the point where the largest dating app spawned around it...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 11:24 PM
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Blame hookup culture. It's made sex on the first or second date the norm. You can't have 1950s ice-cream dates and 2021s Netflix and chill at the same time. The guys who are dating traditionally are going to feel like chumps if they have to wait a month to have sex; meanwhile another guy can just text her to come over and fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:57 AM
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It's going to be a lot harder to try and date someone if they have kids to schedule around. I also feel like no matter what I'm inevitably going to be expected to take on a fatherly role. Call it something primal in me but I don't want to raise another guys kid, if I accidentally got a girl pregnant I'd have to man up and raise the kid I guess but I'm not doing that for someone elses kid. I wouldn't have a problem having a casual relationship with a single mom, the issue is they're almost always…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:09 AM
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So you admit that you're ignoring average girls IRL? I'm saying I'm not hitting on any girl in my average day to day life, attractive or average get treated the same. ​ You mean "I swiped on a fat girl on tinder once, it counts!" we both know online dating isn't serious. I don't think we need to go into the statistics again, women are far more picky than men on dating apps. Here's a graph though anyway, just to prove the point. Men area literally swiping right on over half of the women on dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:21 PM
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Out in the real world, men don't give average women the time of day. I'm honestly not sure what your complaint is here? Men don't really go around hitting on women because literally every other day we're told you're a creep if you flirt with women. A girl in your friend group? If she doesn't reciprocate you'll be considered the "creepy friend". At work? Hitting on a work colleague is a sure fire way to lose your job. Online Dating is literally one of the only (except for maybe bars) places where…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 11:37 PM
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I think we will see huge changes in our lifetimes. I think lot of men are going to choose to not participate or to participate as little as possible in society. With virtually no chance of having a wife and kids they won't have much motivation to do anything but the bare minimum to keep themselves afloat. I also think that we're going to see even more political radicalization, what we've seen so far is only the tip of the iceberg. These people aren't going to be happy about their lot in life and…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 11:16 PM
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The women who like femboys aren't lying I'm sure they're not, but there's still far far more women into traditionally masculine men. I mean there's some men who like fat women, but if a fat woman was to ask me for dating advice I'd tell her to lose weight. Because far more guys prefer fit women than fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 01:43 PM
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I think you're right that a lot of guys on here (myself included) would benefit massively from some experience. The whole problem though is that those girls don't want to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:43 AM
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As a man I'd say it's lowered my opinion of women. Men on here will try and talk about the issues men face in modern dating, sometimes even including statistics to illustrate how prevalent the issue is. And every time the response from women on here is either "it's your own fault", "quit whining", or they just flat out deny that it's an issue. All it's done is give me the impression that women in general really don't give a shit about the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 02:10 AM
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I think it's just that most guys think they have a better shot with less attractive women. Sure it would be awesome to date a girl with an awesome personality who is also beautiful with a 10/10 body. But I know I'd be wasting my time hitting her unless I was also a 10/10 guy. You have a much better chance trying with girls that are average looks but good personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:18 AM
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I think the "women look for successful guys" is a remnant of a bygone era. Back before women were in the workforce and were expected to raise a family they would have been told "Make sure you marry a nice successful man, you need to raise a family after all!"; and if she picked a bad man she was stuck with a shitty life. Think about how much has changed since then. Women no longer need men to be successful, there's much less emphasis on "the family unit", and with all the forms of birth control …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 07:05 PM
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I'm not sure what percent I'd put the split at but it's somewhat even I guess. I believe that there is more than just physical attraction in relationships. I've grown to become attracted to women I know because of their personality/interests. But at the same time I think you'd have to be naive to think that looks don't play a huge role in dating. Especially when most dating apps are "swipe on photo" style.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 01:12 PM
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