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When I was a teenager, I was walking home from school and a man in a truck stopped to offer me ride. I agreed but only if I could get in the bed of the truck. I directed him to a park near my house and walked the rest of the way home. I felt bad because I knew the man felt like I was accusing him of having improper intentions, but I figured it'd be better safe than sorry. Recently, I was driving home from a class and I saw 3 middle school boys walking home in the rain. I drive a van so I stopped…
/r/MensRights18/03/12 08:53 AM
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It was more that, you have a kid. Tell the child you love him, call him your son, take care of him and then one day you find out he's not your's. Then you no longer love him. It would make it seem like you lied when you told him you loved him.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 04:59 AM
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Yes, but we were going with the idea that the child was switched at birth and that you would feel a bigger connection to a child that is genetically related to you. So that was my example if genetics would have an effect on my ability to love a child or what to switch them out.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 04:15 AM
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I honestly don't know. I may be able to look past it. I currently have a "daughter" that is not genetically mine, and I've only known her for 1 out of her 8 years of life. I currently love her more than anything, so I'm not sure if genetics would play a part in how I feel about my child And, at the risk of displaying one of my guilty pleasures, Desperate Housewives had this issue. The woman found out her child was switched at birth and she had a very hard time dealing with it and letting go of h…
/r/MensRights16/01/12 03:26 AM
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Hopefully, I won't be in the crop. Even if it's just paralegal work, and I hate to sound overly optimistic and unrealistic when I say this, but maybe I can help change things by sharing my opinion.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 02:42 AM
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I know the facts matter. But, I'm saying that if there's hope of changing the system and things wrong with it then I'd need to know what I think about it in order to try and change anything about it. I'm not saying I have this great power or anything. Just trying to say that if I have my opinion and it snowballs then maybe there is hope for something.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 02:41 AM
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Sorry, I was going with the idea of a child bringing up bad thoughts about how they got there. Man resents child because woman cheated on him. Woman resents child because she was raped. Because I finally realized how I feel about it all. I'd say that the woman should be given a choice, just as the man should.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 02:39 AM
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I'm sorry for not being clear on my question. It was not my intention. You do bring up some very great points though.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 02:34 AM
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I'm at work at the moment, so I couldn't give the video my full attention, but I will be sure to watch it once I'm home.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 02:29 AM
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I agree, but I was trying to form my own opinion on how things should be. I believe the system is very broken and benefits women a lot more than people admit. But, the first step to trying to change something is realizing what you think it should be. Even the class I was in was extremely favored toward making a man pay child support even if the kid isn't his. If I can present my opinion I may be able to change their minds.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 02:28 AM
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I get "lost puppy" syndrome as my father calls it.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 02:11 AM
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Thank you for your help. I've been in Mensrights before and some of the men get very excited talking about things and tend to be less than understand. You've been very helpful
/r/MensRights16/01/12 02:08 AM
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Well, I doubt that would happen based on my circumstances. But, I may.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 02:06 AM
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I think I've formed an opinion on the matter. Tell me what you think. Should a man find out the child he's been raising is not his, then he should be able to choose what he wants to do. He can not support the child and no longer act as the child's father. No rights or anything. Or, he can choose to support the child and have the full rights he should be afforded as the child's father.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 02:01 AM
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I'm not going to lie, I had to read that a few times before I could fully understand it, but I see what you're saying. You've been very helpful. Thanks for that.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 01:59 AM
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Girlfriend's daughter. It was voluntary, she told me at the start, it's both of them or neither. I'm starting to understand, but I would feel obligated to if someone started handing children over to me. Someone needs to raise and help them. It's not the child's fault.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 01:55 AM
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I, honestly, have no idea. It's like I can't seem to form an opinion on the matter. I feel a man shouldn't have to support a child that isn't his, but at the same time he should financially help a child that he's raised. It's hard for me to express it properly.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 01:49 AM
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Now, here is my question. If the "real" father is not alive, or no longer around then what about the child? What if the mother cannot support the child and needs the child support? Should the unrelated father have to help support the child if that's the only financial help the child can get?
/r/MensRights16/01/12 01:47 AM
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The class basically said the man should have to pay child support. It caused quite a stir between people and the teacher finally ended it by saying "Whether right or wrong, the court says they are "acting in the best interest of the child" I'm not sure how I could deal with that to be honest because it hasn't happened. I do currently act as a mother to a child that is not mine though.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 01:44 AM
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See, those cases are bullshit and should have never happened. I'm having difficult time putting my thoughts about this into words, but I'm going to try. Basically, they didn't act as fathers to the children, they shouldn't have to pay a damn cent. But, I'm not sure how I would feel about a man that acted as a child's father for 8 or 9 years. That's the difficulty I'm having. If the man is the only father the child knows.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 01:42 AM
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It's a Family Law course for a paralegal major at a technical college. We had a man bring up the topic and I found myself torn on the issue. I just can't imagine being able to turn it off like that. I still can't seem to form an opinion about it though.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 01:34 AM
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This is very true. I didn't think of it that way. Would a man resent a child that he found out wasn't his? That's the thing I'm trying to understand.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 01:30 AM
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To be honest, I'm having a hard time with that analogy. I can understand wanting to forget an event that is damaging, but she hasn't bonded with the child yet. He has. Now, This analogy seems more fitting, granted it may not be very likely. A woman and man are dating. She gets date raped by another man and doesn't remember the event. She finds out she is pregnant, carries the baby to term, raises the kid. Later one she finds out the child is the product of rape. Would she stop wanting the kid?
/r/MensRights16/01/12 01:28 AM
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I think the "best interest" has more to do with the role the man has played so far. If the child has grown up to believe that man is his father, then wouldn't it be damaging to find out that his father no longer wants him?
/r/MensRights16/01/12 01:24 AM
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I wish it did sometimes. I know a guy that got a girl pregnant and she had the baby. He didn't sign the birth certificate and had no legal rights to the child. Technically, he wasn't the legal father just yet. She still got him for child support. I don't understand how things like that are even allowed to happen. Either you pay and get rights. Or you don't pay and move on.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 01:21 AM
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I promise I'm not a troll. This discussion came up in a class of mine the other day and I'm looking for other viewpoints on the matter. I don't have a set thought on the matter, because to me it's a very conflicting thing to find out a child you love and raised isn't really yours. But can you just turn off that love? Are some people able to and other's not? Would you still want to support a child that isn't yours?
/r/MensRights16/01/12 01:18 AM
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I don't think I would. Then again, we are not talking about a pair of fake shoes. I'm talking about a child. You can stop loving things very easily, but a person is another matter.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 01:16 AM
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Alright, maybe I should rephrase the question and take out the financial aspect of it for a moment. Would it be okay for a man to not want anything to do with a child he helped raise, but later found out was not his?
/r/MensRights16/01/12 01:14 AM
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I think it's wrong that he couldn't see the child or get visitation. I believe if you're paying child support then you have full rights to that child. Provided there was no abuse, or neglect found.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 01:13 AM
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I'm just trying to see the different viewpoints about it. I mean, I've heard of men that raise a child for years and after a divorce find out the child isn't there. He then wants the kid out of his life. Isn't that a little..wrong? At least on some level. Deciding that you no longer what to claim a child because you found out you're not related.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 01:12 AM
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Well, say the child is around 8 or ten years old. It's the only father he's ever known and the man raised the child too. How can you just cut yourself off from a child that you loved for 8 years because you found out you're not blood related. I'm just trying to get the different view points.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 01:11 AM
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Sorry, I didn't get that from him. I just got that he had no issues with someone have a preference towards it. You also seemed to highlight more that it was wrong than the actual statement that preference towards it are tied to it happening. I'm sorry if I came off like I was trying to over correct you or something. I just think you could have said it a little more simply and it would have been understood easier. I was just trying to give a suggestion.
/r/MensRights15/12/11 08:18 AM
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Well, The argument you were having with the other redditor made me think of something. He is just saying that people are allowed preferences. Just as some men don't like girls that have a large inner labia, some woman don't like uncircumcised men. Preference are shaped by culture. Although, all the yelling you did was mostly opinion. When you get into if things are "wrong" or "right" it's mostly opinion. The argument that should have been said is that genital mutilation is basically a supply and…
/r/MensRights15/12/11 07:55 AM
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Just a small question here. Wouldn't the circumcision done to be male in western society be the same as just removing the hood from a female? Cutting off the entire clitoris would be like cutting off the entire tip of the penis, not just the foreskin. If I have it incorrect, please feel free to correct me.
/r/MensRights15/12/11 06:55 AM
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I'm trying to say that if she proposed that men shouldn't take little girls to the bathroom, then it should be equal for little boys to. I don't see a point in it either, but it would have made more sense.
/r/MensRights21/10/11 01:03 PM
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I think I would have been okay with it if she suggested that girls should be taken to the restroom by women, and boys taken to the restroom by men. That would have been better than this. I personally have no issue with men taking girls to the bathroom.
/r/MensRights20/10/11 08:03 AM
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Yes, but I've seen mothers attack both lesbian and gays. Girls usually like gay guys, and are apprehensive around lesbians. I do find it interesting that men discriminate against men though, and girls do it to girls.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 01:28 AM
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There kind of are. At least that I've encountered. As a lesbian, when I come out to people, they usually think it's cool or hot. My best friend is a gay man and when he comes out he gets called a pole smoker and other derogatory names. Its usually men that do the most discriminating though. Men think it's cool if a girl, they think it's disgusting if it's a gay guy.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 01:23 AM
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Not really. I've heard it for both sexes equally.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 08:40 PM
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Hey, when you edit a comment you make, could you please put edit: before it so that the comment thread will make sense?
/r/MensRights06/10/11 10:13 AM
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You never know. You could have been an outlier. Then you also have to ask the question how many people learn from their mistakes like you did? You may not be that common.
/r/MensRights05/10/11 10:06 PM
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I'm not trying to force my morality on you. I'm saying that people should still take the consequences for their actions. You did something wrong, didn't go to jail, and learned from it? Well congratulations then, but you can't tell me that nothing good would have come from you going to jail. You don't know. It didn't happen. You can only assume that you came out on the better end. I'm not trying to use "shame tactics" on you, I promise, I didn't think that far ahead into this. I was just sharing…
/r/MensRights05/10/11 09:57 PM
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Well sir, with thinking like that. Seems like you need to grow up
/r/MensRights05/10/11 06:21 PM
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No, it's not the end all or be all, but it is a large portion of it. Think of when you consider someone mature, usually it's because they are dealing with the consequences of their actions.
/r/MensRights05/10/11 04:20 PM
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It may very well be, but I didn't see any link or anything.
/r/MensRights05/10/11 04:18 PM
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What article? I didn't see a link anywhere.
/r/MensRights05/10/11 03:39 PM
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Not unmanly, not even foolish. If you can support yourself, have no one that you have to take care of, and want to get drunk everyday, then go for it. That's your choice. You made choices in your life that have enabled you to do those things.
/r/MensRights05/10/11 03:36 PM
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The color "blue" is subjective and doesn't mean the same to everyone. But if I say "That car is blue" you get the general idea about which I am speaking. I gave you an example to help clear up the subjectivity of the word responsibility. If someone does an action, good or bad, they are the party that should deal with the consequences.
/r/MensRights05/10/11 03:31 PM
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See, I don't agree with that at all. It depends on the context to which it is used. The way I see it, when you tell someone to grow up it means they aren't taking responsibilities for their actions. Not that they aren't living their life for society. More along the lines of "You got drunk and hit someone with your car, now grow up and deal with the consequences"
/r/MensRights05/10/11 03:00 PM
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No, I mean "Stop acting like a foolish child, getting drunk everyday, and living off unemployment. Now go take care of your baby and be responsible for your actions." I've had to say that to one of my friends before.
/r/MensRights05/10/11 02:51 PM
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How about using the term "grow up" instead of "man up".
/r/MensRights05/10/11 02:39 PM
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If a female forces a man to have sex and he has an orgasm. He could potentially get the girl pregnant....
/r/MensRights03/10/11 04:31 PM
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True. Then I guess it is worse for the guy. He can't exactly take the morning after pill or get an abortion
/r/MensRights03/10/11 04:10 AM
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In my opinion the only difference between male and female rape is that the female has a risk of getting pregnant. Although, if the male gets raped by someone he knows, he can technically get them pregnant and be stuck with child support. I do think men can get it worse when they're raped. Most people don't believe men can even be raped unless it's anally.
/r/MensRights02/10/11 05:10 PM
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It really makes me sad. It's called the LGBT community for a reason. It's like she's hating one of her own. I think transphobia in general is despicable but this...this is extremely low.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 12:34 AM
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Wow. I'm a lesbian, I've never encountered the so-called "Man hating dyke" until now. I can't even begin to try and express my distaste for this. The link Qanan posted is even worse. The way she explains mothers puzzles me. For every positive term she used I thought of my father. I thought of sitting on his knee while he taught me all the parts to a circuit board, or going out to his workshop where he taught me all about guns and life. He is my go-to man. Sadly, because of free speech she is ent…
/r/MensRights28/09/11 11:37 PM
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I think if a woman cries false rape, then she should be sentence to the same thing the man would have gotten should the rape have been real. Not to mention she should have to put out a public statement in the paper saying the rape was false and she lied. In my opinion false rape is horrible and should be considered almost as bad as murder. You are effectively ruining someone's life. Possibly their livelihood and family life. It's a despicable crime and I think a woman should do jail time for cal…
/r/MensRights12/09/11 10:06 PM
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I hate that I live in a country like this. I have a friend that didn't have a job so he couldn't pay his child support. They suspended his licence. There goes some job opportunities right there. I think in an attempt to punish the very very few men that refuse to pay child support they are punishing the men that do try. The majority of men that don't pay their child support actually are trying. They've fallen on hard times and can't make the payments. Not to mention the payments themselves cause…
/r/MensRights12/09/11 10:00 PM
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I am realistic. Maybe you're just cynical.
/r/MensRights11/09/11 08:06 PM
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You have to much of a negative view on things.
/r/MensRights11/09/11 07:46 PM
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Doesn't that make half the people who marry losers? Because for every one person that has a spouse that makes more, they make less? The woman I want to marry right now makes more than me, but that's not an issue as I will probably make more than her in the future.
/r/MensRights11/09/11 05:56 AM
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Well, it's not just keeping men from being screwed in a divorce or saying they're anti-marriage. Sometimes it just seems like they're "Women are EVIL gold digging whores!"
/r/MensRights10/09/11 03:11 AM
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I can't speak for the vast majority since there is no possible way for me to get into their head. I can only speak from my personal experience and those I know around me. I have yet to find a woman that is marrying up for money. I've never been taught to marry up for money, sure, women joke about it all the time "I need to find a rich husband" but I've known people to joke like that and then they're married to a broke trucker because they love him.
/r/MensRights10/09/11 03:10 AM
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I think the gay marriage movement is more to get the right to marry. All the alimony, child support and divorce things come with it. But, in order to have those things you need to be able to get married. I never said anything about a woman mooching. There are a lot of women who may not understand the reason for not wanting to get married, either due to upbringing, religious ideas, or just how they are. It doesn't mean they want to mooch of him. Why are so many men on this thread so negative abou…
/r/MensRights09/09/11 01:16 PM
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I'm not sure what I'm trying to say, but I find it humorous in a twisted way that Gay Marriage is something so sought after by the LGBT community and yet here you have the right to marry someone you love, but refuse to. I'm in no way condemning you or anything. I fully support your decision and understand completely. I just find it interesting the different attitudes towards marriage. Congratulations on your decision. I hope whatever woman you plan to be with in the long term understands your po…
/r/MensRights09/09/11 10:52 AM
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This isn't really what I'm talking about. I'll give you an example. I knew a couple, the kids were about 17 and 21. The mother was a stay at home mom, the father worked. The mom did have a job, but it was just as a waitress on the weekend. She took care of her husband, the house..ect. One day, the husband decides he doesn't want to be married. So now the wife has a house they just built, new car they just bought, and not to much work experience. I think in cases such as that, the man should have…
/r/MensRights07/09/11 03:49 AM
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I hear ya. I'm 21, have a girlfriend that has a child so she's kind of my child now too. I hate how my friends get gouged in child support and that it goes to women who spend it on themselves. I think child support should be put on a card the woman can use, so all expenses are tracked, and if items are returned the money can only be put on that card.
/r/MensRights07/09/11 02:09 AM
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I agree that men should be given a choice in parenting, within reason. I don't think a father should be able to just get "a paper abortion" after the kid is two years old and the father has been in his life for awhile. I think the man should have 1 month after the baby is born to decide.
/r/MensRights07/09/11 12:59 AM
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I don't think you read the link I posted. About how primates need comfort and care? For the record. I don't get child support because I don't have any biological children.
/r/MensRights07/09/11 12:57 AM
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Not even if it's the agreement between the man and woman? I don't think you've ever taken care of a household with two kids and a husband..
/r/MensRights07/09/11 12:55 AM
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I meant that women can have moral problems with abortions. Some don't I will admit. A paper abortion wouldn't carry the same moral weight of ending a human's life. That's the point Giving a man the option to just "abort" a child on paper is not as difficult as a woman aborting her child.
/r/MensRights07/09/11 12:14 AM
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Adopted children have parents. The people that adopted them are the parents. Children need the love of a parent just as much as food. Check out are dear friend Mr. Harlow
/r/MensRights07/09/11 12:11 AM
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You obviously don't understand what I'm saying. Some couples agree that one parent stays home, and one goes to work. More commonly it's the woman, but since you seem to hate females, we'll use a male. A male stays home, he runs the house, takes care of the kids and his wife works. She has a decently high paying job. Suddenly, she wants a divorce. The man is now left without a job, little work experience and education. He stayed home when he could have been advancing in a career. Because of this …
/r/MensRights07/09/11 12:03 AM
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Interesting little fact. I knew a guy that got a girl pregnant. When the baby was born, he did not sign the birth certificate and his name was not put on it. Months later, the girl gets him for child support BUT he gets no set visitation unless she decides because he's not legally the father and the baby hasn't be legitimized. He had to go to court in order to get the baby legitimized, but he was paying child support BEFORE that. It disgusted me.
/r/MensRights06/09/11 11:50 PM
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You do understand that there are women who have entered into marriage and become housewives, sacrificing their job and career goals to become a house wife. I've seen women that have taken care of the kids, the home and whatever else needs to be done while the man works a job. If the man decides he wants a divorce and the woman gets custody of the children she will need financial help. It has nothing to do with her not wanting to get a job and more so the lack of experience or education because o…
/r/MensRights06/09/11 11:47 PM
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That's not it at all. At one time, feminism was necessary to give women equal rights in the home, work place, and general life. Women were treated as second class citizens.
/r/MensRights06/09/11 11:42 PM
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That's not quite the same thing. If a woman gets an abortion, it kills the baby which can have moral issues. If a man does a paper "abortion" all that is happening is the baby is no longer his on paper. The baby still lives. It doesn't hold the same weight. Attitude should have nothing to do with child support. Some females just may not like or get along with the male. It happens. It should be based on what she uses the money for and how it is used to take care of the child.
/r/MensRights06/09/11 11:39 PM
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Exactly how is that an apples and oranges concept? Two people are being compared in one example. The most important thing for a child is parental involvement. Loving, caring, parental involvement. The amount of money made doesn't mean anything as long as enough is made to support the child. I don't really care who gets the kid. The father or the mother, it doesn't matter. It just needs to be a parent that will be around and take care of the kid.
/r/MensRights06/09/11 11:32 PM
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He has already asked her. It's not a very friendly situation if you will.
/r/MensRights04/09/11 05:43 AM
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I don't think he had anyone giving him advice so he didn't know what to follow.
/r/MensRights03/09/11 02:06 PM
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He doesn't. He just didn't have any of the money and wasn't sure what to do.
/r/MensRights03/09/11 01:43 PM
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Lesbian over here. I have no issue with it at all. However, if my partner objects to it then I respect her decision and wait until the week is up. I think the woman that wrote that article is completely wrong. If someone doesn't want to swim in the red river, then that is their preference and right. It doesn't have anything to do with misogyny.
/r/MensRights03/09/11 01:37 PM
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That's just it. The first go around, he didn't have an attorney. He got shafted because he didn't understand things.
/r/MensRights03/09/11 01:14 PM
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See, I know that. The problem is. He doesn't really have any money since most of his check goes to his ex wife. He also has a current wife(lookin for a job) and her son that he adopted and supports. I just feel he is being treated extremely unfairly because his Ex wife has a fiance, and they are getting over half his money. He knows most of it doesn't go to his son.
/r/MensRights03/09/11 07:48 AM
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artofmanliness.com
/r/MensRights02/09/11 03:15 PM
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No, not really. It's honestly just an entry-level position. I make barely above min. wage. In my opinion, my employer underpays me in relation to what my coworkers make. Overall, I believe I have a pretty good deal for the amount of work I actually do.
/r/MensRights01/09/11 05:41 AM
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And I understand that. I was just trying to say that I do have a specific example where it does it exist. There are some people that will see the video and claim it supports that discrimination does not exist at all in regards to gender and wage. I'm not worried about suing over it. This is just a job to pay for college and the money is decent for the amount of work. I'm not overly worried about it.
/r/MensRights01/09/11 04:53 AM
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Trust me it is. Originally, I wasn't going to be put into the position I'm in because "girls don't belong there" referring to the location of the company I work in.
/r/MensRights01/09/11 03:25 AM
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I'm not spreading any lies about men. Again. I'm saying that I work with men and they all make more money then I do. We do the same job, I work just as hard as they do, but make less than a new hire in the same position. I don't fault them for making more, I just think it's a tad bit unfair.
/r/MensRights01/09/11 01:00 AM
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I "understood" that you guys were trying to speak more about the national trend, where as I was giving a single example that goes counter to it. The video itself analysed the national trend and then gave reasons for the wage gap. When controlling for the human capitol factor, it stated there was basically no difference in wage. I was giving an example that there WAS difference in wage between men and women when controlling for the human capitol in my own workplace. If someone states "There is no…
/r/MensRights01/09/11 12:52 AM
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Okay, first off. I was replying to knucker3's comment saying that the wage gap is not the result of discrimination. Second. I specifically said that it was my own personal experience with wage discrimination. I never said that the majority of males hate the majority of women. An age gap would not imply hate, if anything it would imply the idea that women are inferior and I'm not even saying THAT exists. I was just giving an example of ONE instance where it does seem to exist in the workplace. Al…
/r/MensRights01/09/11 12:21 AM
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I see your point and I understand. Have an upvote, dear sir.
/r/MensRights31/08/11 11:50 PM
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I'm not sure about that. It may be discredited at higher job levels, but in my own personal experience it still exists. Granted this is just one example, and it's from my personal standpoint. I'm a woman, and the department I work in has 10 males, and me. I make less than all my male coworkers. There have recently been two men hired and they STARTED OUT at more than I make now. I've worked there for 3 years, do all the things my coworkers do. As a matter of fact. I'm more dependable than they ar…
/r/MensRights31/08/11 11:27 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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