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Question For WomenWatch_the_backflip/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:49 AM
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1

Please link where you said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 02:54 AM
1

It's not about "willpower". If I want a certain type of sex with a willing partner, is that wrong to want? Failing that, am I not free to do what I please with my body?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 02:53 AM
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Option 2, but not while dating me. Well if he's not dating you, then this discussion is pointless If no woman wants to do it, option 1 Another woman content that their partner isn't satisfied so long as they're happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 01:43 AM
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Any woman can get a bone tossed in her. That's not an accomplishment. The equivalent for a man is a man bragging "yeah, I took seven different women out for dinner this week, paid for everything,and didn't even get so much as a boob grab." The challenge for women is securing commitment from a man she finds to be desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 01:40 AM
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I don't mock them unless I know them personally and they've been shitty to men because of their pussy power. It's the equivalent of the day when a man's strength fails him and he can no longer shape or destiny. It's just sad really.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 01:34 AM
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Men are shamed for doing anything that brings them happiness if women don't benefit from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 03:20 PM
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Who cares if they aren't interested? Outside of procreation, what can a modern woman do for you that you can't do for yourself? Focus on becoming the best man you can be and the women will happily wait at the finish line for you to claim with the other cash and prizes. Letting sex be your focus is how trashy women make good men slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:26 AM
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Just because you disagree with literally the only metric we have to track this, doesn't make it invalid. What metric do you propose we use to determine who ends marriages?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:49 AM
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No. You don't get to do that. You said: Men always have the privilege of divorcing their wife in their 40s and then starting a new family with the younger model. Women can't do that. It will always be mens favor. And when I pointed out that women are the ones walking away, and not men, you're trying to act that you didn't just try say that it's men who have the "privilege" of walking away.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:40 PM
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If 70% of divorces weren't initiated by women, you'd get some pity here. https://www.divorcemag.com/articles/women-more-likely-to-initiate-divorce-study
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:33 PM
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She not only didn't put in the effort, she actually did less. She didn't want to work, which would have been fine if she did the work of a housewife (but she didn't). She got obese. She didn't care for sex. I couldn't take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 05:07 PM
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I'll say it. I was responsible. I started to increase my value. I put on muscle, I earned more money, I dressed better...I transformed from the man she married. And my options expanded. I did try to be good at first, but as my options grew, her effort diminished so I said "fuck it." I did what was in my best interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 03:56 AM
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You didn't answer my questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:27 PM
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Do they? Are you expected to lay down your life to protect your husband? Are you going to be responsible if your family is out on the streets?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 03:27 PM
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Pathetic, but I'm not the one in charge of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 11:50 AM
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I guess we are going to disagree given that we have different experiences and no objective data to base or conclusions on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 11:13 PM
1

Below average women may bemoan the lack of attention from the types of men they want, but they do get attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 11:06 PM
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Do you really think only cute girls get attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 10:50 PM
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Yep. It takes minimal effort to meet men as a woman. You literally have to just exist in a public place and men will make approaches. If a woman has to resort to OLD, it means that she's not getting results in her local market and has to make herself available to a wider pool of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:02 PM
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Step 1: understand your kinks Step 2: understand the difference between fantasy and reality Step 3: find partners who share your kink
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:48 PM
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I have a lawyer review any contract I sign. But I guess that's just my male privilege showing
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/02/22 03:10 PM
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You know it isn't men that determine who has sex, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 12:40 PM
2

who cares, most of these guys are incels Eye roll
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 12:39 PM
2

Saw the thread. Made popcorn Sorted by "controversial" Was pleasantly surprised!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 12:37 PM
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Outside of stuff related to my son, why should I speak to my ex wife? She offers me nothing - she's not a friend, she's not a prospective partner. Keeping her in my life is just an additional burden of time and attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 12:35 PM
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I wonder how some men would feel if no woman smiled; gave them compliments; conversated with them; or I dare say really acknowledge them as people unless they were interested in dating them. You're dangerously close to understanding life as an unattractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:43 PM
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They love games... Until they start losing
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/22 04:07 PM
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Well, I do not feel bad for women in this regard. I mean, damn it must be hell for a member of the opposite sex to take your signals as interest, express interest in you, and be willing to risk rejection. I guess us stupid men should stop approaching altogether. All joking aside, if a woman is nice to me I'm going to assume interest because, largely, women do not pay attention to men they aren't interested in. Moreover, I'm not risk-adverse - I can take rejection. What I can't take is missing a …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:56 PM
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It isn't a foreign concept. We are aware that it exists but, largely, we don't advise marriage because there is nothing that a man gains from putting himself into that business deal. We actually don't have a problem with a man choosing one partner if she makes him happy. Red Pill philosophy isn't all "spin plates lift weights" - it is a mindset that allows us to see the nature of women and society for what it is rather than what it pretends to be so that we make the best decisions for us rather …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:19 PM
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Here's the thing: There are amazing men who are looking for a long-term thing and who value commitment. And those men are snatched up right away. Those men have mountains of options to choose from and at any time they want to commit, they just have to reach out and pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:17 PM
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>if a guy is worth being commited to then he would never consider leaving you. Adorable. The fact is that people change. If you choose to, for example, get obese and stop pleasing him there is someone out there that is willing to step in. I'm not saying that your man is the type to leave but *you cannot control what others do, you can only control yourself*.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:19 AM
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Good point, tell me more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 01:28 AM
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Then change his mind! Present a logical reply rather than simply tossing in the towel because you don't want to do the intellectual legwork.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 09:32 PM
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And that means that anyone is open to change his mind. How is this hard to follow?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 08:55 PM
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This in no way addresses his post. Walk me through your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 08:54 PM
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Well, your assumption was wrong. Moreover, did I generalize all women or did I literally say "based on my experience?" Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 05:52 PM
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Sure you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 05:46 PM
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Good Don't get complacent - there's a world of women that are all too happy to snatch a man from a woman (especially black men). Edit - removed a part. I mistook this reddit profile for a separate one. Good
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 03:02 PM
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I'm not resentful. I posted a question and the resentful people responded.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 03:01 PM
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You need a relationship to get a woman Nope. Not required. Between hormonal birth control, the sexual revolution, hypergamy, and zero consequences for any of it, if I want a woman all I have to do is go to any of the bars at 10:00 and just be tall, muscular, and willing to be discreet (because they don't want it getting out that they're easy). The fact that you don't understand the benefits of having a woman by your side What can a relationship with a woman get me that I cannot get without one? …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 03:00 PM
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Sorry, but this is the real world. If you have something of value, people will covet it. You can't control the lack of boundaries and ethics of other people - if you have a good partner, there are people that will want that for themselves. You don't have to like it, but ignore it at your own peril.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:58 PM
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Please, demonstrate this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:30 PM
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It isn't. Are you doing what it takes to get one, or are you just presenting your entitlement and expecting it? Are you prepared to compete with other women for him? Are you prepared for the work it takes to keep him?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:30 PM
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They aren't despised. They aren't even invisible. They just need to get realistic standards and stop going after men out their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:28 PM
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Yet their average net worth is lower. Also men do not care about your degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:24 PM
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Women would rather share an alpha than be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:22 PM
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Men don't care about your money. A man will date a waitress if she's attractive. You're still 40, with all the things that come with being a 40 year old woman. As attractive as you may be, the fact is that you'll still lose to a 25 year old version of you. Pretty women turn 25 every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:17 PM
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Notice how you're trying to insult me when I did no such thing to you. I guess I touched a nerve.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 01:54 PM
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First, good fucking job leading with facts and not feelings. I'll give you credit there. But... What does the rest of your post have to do with your reply? You should have left it at the study but you had to go into an emotional rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 01:13 PM
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Biology, you know that thing that allowed your parents to make you, disagrees
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:41 PM
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Okay, what do I need a relationship to get? As a 40 year old man who has his finances, body, and life in order, what does a relationship get me that I cannot get for myself? Women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of commitment... And the type of men women generally want has no incentive to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:39 PM
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Well that's absolutely stupid. If I'm wanting a romantic partner and she just wants to be friends, it's dishonest to agree in hopes to friend my way into a relationship. It's better for me to leave and find a woman interested in a relationship. It's better for her to find a man interested in friendship. You blue pill guys are silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:35 PM
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If you're worried about that question, it's because you don't bring anything to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:22 PM
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If you want to have a discussion, then have the discussion. Insulting me isn't debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 10:57 AM
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Then why do most women pursue the same types of men? Did you not even look at the thing I linked?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:04 AM
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Men have high standards The available data doesn't agree. When a man isnt with a model, its because he cant get one. Okay, and? This is not really relevant. If your point is that men want attractive partners, cool. It does not reflect women's standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 10:46 PM
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Women do not care about men when men actually need support. It sounds fucked up, but (based on my experience) women claim they are loving and supporting but when a man is broken and actually needs that support they are nowhere to be seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 10:39 PM
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I don't mind being ghosted. I get that not everyone is confrontational, and I understand how it goes when the other party can't accept the end of a relationship. Personally, I give someone two chances to reply or respond to offers to meet up. After that, i delete their number and don't give them free rent in my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 10:38 PM
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You did a whole lot of feel-good babble but you didn't really make a point. It doesn't matter if the person feels good about it. The fact that they are lying to hide it means that they know that they should be ashamed of it and they're lying to avoid the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 09:28 AM
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You really took the extra effort to not even address my point and you even managed to get a strawman in there to boot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 09:01 AM
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People are happy about shameful choices all the time and lie to avoid consequences. You didn't really post a valid defense
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 08:51 AM
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The only people who get my protection are my family and children. I don't give a shit about anyone else and getting involved in their issues is a good way to get stabbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 02:05 AM
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That's a silly notion that only people with modest finances worry about working on their finances. Have you ever met someone with real wealth? Most of our time is spent managing our wealth to make it accrue more wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 01:39 AM
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If something doesn't matter, then why lie about it? The fact that they lie and then try to shame men into accepting it gives away the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 01:32 AM
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They want it, but they want it from guys like West Elm Caleb. The average man doesn't stand a chance. And men aren't mad at the fact they aren't having sex. A lot of men are mad that they were lied to about what it took to have sex. If you told men "look, you aren't physically in the top 20% and your money isn't what it needs to be. You're not gonna be doing the fucking you want with the women you want" most men would be able to accept that they need to either improve or deal with it. Men aren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:43 AM
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I'd like to hear her response since I'm trying to figure out what she's saying
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 08:39 AM
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The ideas don't make sense when taken together. It's their problem. It isn't their problem if marriage isn't a priority for them. It's actually the problem of women who want marriage. I only do monogamy, and I prefer long term relationships, This alone isn't a problem, but then you then say: I think getting married just makes things easier, but it's not a requirement for me So which is it? Is marriage not a requirement or do you only do monogamy? Are you saying that you're good with monogamy eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 08:30 AM
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It's their problem I only do monogamy I think getting married just makes things easier, but it's not a requirement for me Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 08:16 AM
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First, take her off the pedestal. It's fucked up, but if a woman knows that she's got you, she places you on the back burner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 06:19 AM
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See, that's how we see women. Except the difference is that sex is much easier for women to find
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 06:16 AM
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If she can't handle my past promiscuity then she's insecure!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 06:15 AM
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TRP isn't MGTOW. The fact that you don't know the difference shows that I'm not really needing to take you seriously on this topic
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 07:31 PM
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If FDS were really about that, find the part where they say "lose the weight, don't be a bitch." You won't, and the ones that say that are called "pick meishas" and scorned
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 02:18 PM
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Nope. I'm just enjoying the ride to the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 11:01 AM
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Who do you think is willingly having casual sex with them? Moreover, who do you think sets the conditions for sex to occur? (It's women.)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 10:17 AM
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Your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 09:24 AM
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You know why you can't seem to figure it out? Because you're out here holding men accountable for the standards of women. Go work on yourself rather than blame men for women's preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 08:55 AM
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ur point that all married men will have blow jobs doesnt really have anything to do with the topic of conversation. not everyone needs a blow job. It's absolutely relevant. Sexual gratification is one of the key draws for men to get married. The fact is that dead bedrooms exist despite men clearly wanting sex and making that want known. ur second point is a fallacy because women actually do listen to men. I've given you multiple examples of how they don't. men just fail to listen to women. This …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 08:47 AM
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i admit u are bringing interesting debate skills to a very human topic You posted a CMV. Expect debate. if all men let women know what they wanted then women will meet those requests. This is laughably false. Men tell women what we want all the time and what happens? We literally get told "my body my choice". We get called mysoginists. Any time a man tells a woman what he wants or expects from a relationship, he's told in no uncertain terms that he doesn't have the right to ask that. If women me…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 08:36 AM
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I think you're full of shit and I've been a lot further than my local park.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 08:24 AM
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It's all a spectrum
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 08:23 AM
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Women and men cheat in equal numbers, men and women both play games RP just puts a name to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 08:17 AM
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no u simply dont understand Don't do that shit. Consider that I understand your point, but I just disagree. Don't assume that because I don't agree, I must not understand. men are the first people created by god Irrelevant. they have the responsibility to set the expectation. People can only set their own expectations. We cannot control the expectations of others. they are failing women with their uncertainty and are failing the human race by extension. Blaming men for women's unrealistic expect…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 08:14 AM
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this causes women to (rightly) raise there standards because men are unclear about exactly what they want. This is a non sequitur and does not even support your point. this is why things like height, face attraction, and status are all taken into account. Women having standards for men exists independently of the standards that men set for women. Regardless, this also does not support your point. in response men tend to overestimate what is required of them. How can we overestimate what is requi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 07:57 AM
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Outliers exist, congratulations on your success
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 06:59 AM
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I agree on both counts. Society, to continue, needs women and men to form productive family units. It creates stability for the woman and child, provides incentive for a man to produce excess, and propels society forward to provide greater ease and luxury. What we're seeing right now is the beginning of what happens when men abandon society.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:16 AM
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People think TRP and FDS are opposites. They aren't. FDS is explicitly about getting the best outcomes for women by manipulating men. TRP is about men mastering themselves, and when women are brought up, it is a discussion about their nature and how to avoid women that are not worth our time. Moreover, the mindsets lead to actions. The FDS user enters into every exchange with a man with the mindset that he's a LVM/NVM if he isn't immediately showering her with attention and resources (despite no…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:46 AM
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Naw, it's that women hate TRP because it does the following: Teaches men about female nature (in general) Serves as a space for men to compare notes Teaches men to not rely on women for validation Modern women hate those things because it allows men to be forewarned and forearmed in the dating market. Modern women do not want men to realize that they have options, are allowed to have standards, and have the time (and right) to be picky about the women they choose to commit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 02:37 AM
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Aside from you not answering my question (what about TRP makes it a dealbreaker) and strawmanning it, I'll play with your response. Let’s say you’re dating a woman and you like [her]. Then one day, you find out she’s in an anti-male cult, and she secretly believes she is superior to you and that you are essentially a dumb child she needs to lead. If that's what she believes, then her actions would reflect this, yes? If her actions didn't reflect this belief, then she either doesn't believe it, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 02:34 AM
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TRP is meant to be attractive to women by men developing the characteristics that women find attractive. Think about it - what do you hear from TRP? get fit Get your money right Learn how to hold frame with women Frankly, if TRP didn't give a shit about attracting women, it wouldn't exist. TRP cares deeply about it, but it is tempered by experience and caution about allowing women unfettered access to oneself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:31 AM
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So let me get this right: You're dating a man and you like him. Then, one day, you find out he's a red-piller. Literally nothing about him has changed except that one fact? What about TRP makes it a deal breaker?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:53 AM
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20/60/20 Bottom 20% are hopeless. They simp and struggle and never win. Middle 60% quietly suffer Top 20% don't even think about it because sex isn't scarce to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:06 AM
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You know what, cool. Shes just saying the silent part out loud. Since we're having standards though... No fat chicks
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/02/22 08:23 PM
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Men fully understand how complex our sexuality is. It doesn't matter though, because we can't make women see that - they can only see the physical characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 07:25 PM
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they have a rule which states you aren't allowed to question any individual belief that people in the FDS community have. That should give you an indication of the quality of that place. Basically, many women on the FDS sub seem to simultaneously believe that splitting bills in a relationship is unacceptable and that men should pay all of the bills in a relationship and be the breadwinners, while also believing that men should do most if not all of the housework in a relationship because the wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 09:25 AM
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Women are people. They're just people we want to fuck. Besides, women are sex objects as much as men are success objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 08:03 PM
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Every man, if he lives long enough will take the red pill - either orally by choice or rectally when a woman gives it to him
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 08:00 PM
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No, you made a statement about understanding men's nature. I'd like to know what you specifically mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:29 AM
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What does a FDS woman offer any man?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 06:49 AM
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That's kind of a non-answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 06:49 AM
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It wouldn't bother me. We already live in a world of sex robots (for women) and they're still out here clamoring for men and bemoaning the lack of "marriageable" men. What women should be afraid of is the day they make a suitable simulation that pleases men. The beta bucks market will vanish and women won't even notice it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 12:19 PM
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Rejection always hurts more than invisibility. With invisibility, there is no direct blow to the ego. With rejection, you know that you were seen... And you were not wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 12:15 PM
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Yeah it's messed up. I'm - admittedly - a cad. A playboy. A rake. But because I'm 6'0 and muscular, women look past my glaring character faults and pass up much better men than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:57 AM
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If she were a subscriber to FDS, I'd not have another date with her. It's a toxic place where a bunch of sad single girls encourage women to develop traits that make them unsuitable to be wives or romantic partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:12 AM
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