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This is actually somewhat true. I feel safer around someone a friend of mine knows that I have been told is safe and normal than I do with a complete stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:53 AM
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Majority of lonely people? No. Disproportionately large amount of people on incel forums? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:48 AM
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Literally not true. Go over to r/trueuglywomen and hear their side of the story. It’s just that everything expected of women- beauty and domestic labor, runs so deep that you forget you expect it. Picture an ugly woman, who doesn’t want to do any housework, has no way to contribute to the household finances, has vaginismus and is rude and disrespectful to everyone. Do you want to marry her? The male version of this logs on to this forum every day and complains he doesn’t have a girlfriend. Why? …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:13 AM
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It’s both. Expecting a partner while having absolutely nothing to offer and not being willing to improve at all is toxic and sexist
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:28 PM
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Then perish
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:24 PM
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If you think that is all that is expected of women you are actually mental.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:07 PM
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Yes. In all sorts of ways. A particularly awful example, that has happened to me like 4-5 times, is what happens when someone’s boyfriend decides to sexually harass me. I go to a bar with my girl friends. We drink, chat, dance, just have fun in general. Then a man comes up to me and makes sexually suggestive remarks and won’t stop even if I tell him I’m uninterested, or starts dry humping or groping me on the dance floor. Making me really uncomfortable until I eventually manage to get rid of him…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:13 AM
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Women can be incredibly cruel to other women if they get jealous, especially over looks and men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:55 PM
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I wouldn’t want to be a stay at home mom. But if I was then I would enjoy that- yes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:45 AM
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If this man discovered Tumblr’s obsession with gay sex he would never recover
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:40 PM
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What level of projection is this
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:39 PM
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As a bisexual woman; - Sex feels good. I have sex with men because I like the feeling of a dick inside me. - Some men are actually really hot. When a guy puts thought and effort into his appearance I will find him sexually attractive. - it’s easier to find a straight guy than a gay woman. Queer people are about 10% of the population. So it’s not always the chance to sleep with a woman presents itself. - it’s more important to me to feel hot than to feel that my partner is hot. If I don’t feel ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:38 PM
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Is going on strike abolishing your workplace or insisting that it can only continue to exist if the workers conditions improve? Fact is; when a strike emerges the decision to allow the workplace to continue to exist is entirely in the hands of the boss and owners. They give into the demands; workplace continues to exist. They don’t; the work place goes under. “If a world born from my womb oppresses me I will not allow that world to exist” The choice to continue the existence of South Korea (whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:32 AM
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There’s so much wrong with this that I’m just going to have to start from scratch. The 4B movement is a reaction to mistreatment of women in South Korea. They find the treatment of women at the hands of men is so severe and rampant that they have decided to isolate themselves from men and avoid all ties to them. No dating, no sex, no marriage, no pregnancy. This has very little to do with children, and everything to do with men and the government. It is a reaction to current unwanted circumstanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:44 AM
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First we have the things you shouldn’t do: - Lie or purposely deceive women. - Pay women for sexual or romantic favors. - Force yourself on a woman. - Approach her in a way that is uncomfortable to her. If you don’t do any of these things, then you can pretty much do whatever you want. Option 1 and 3 are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:16 AM
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Being on the receiving end of a man’s yearning is absolutely abysmal. They jump through hoops trying to impress you, but they won’t listen to anything you say or want. Treating every attempt at communication like a test or riddle. It’s not a carousel ride you can get off. Once he’s put you on a pedestal he’ll demean himself in front of everyone while making it abundantly clear that you are the reason for this, you are the only one who can end his suffering. How much more does he have to take unt…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:22 AM
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No, oppressive structures are harmful for everyone. But they aren’t targeted at men because they are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:12 AM
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I would actually argue that not only is this better for men, it’s also better for women. For me personally I find it very dehumanizing to join a political movement, or book club, or cooking class, etc. only to find that every guy is completely disinterested in all the things we’re doing and just wants to have sex with me. It’s not sexy time goddamn it, I’m trying to enjoy a hobby or better myself as a person, stop trying to get in my pants please. I want to make genuine connections with people w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 10:39 AM
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It’s hard to sympathize with someone who’s openly dehumanizing you and advocating for your oppression. I don’t empathize with people who don’t see me as a person, that’s psychological self harm
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 06:15 PM
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You can’t believe these two things at the same time; 1) women have full autonomy in romance and sex and have the right to refuse anyone with or without reason. 2) men not having a romantic or sexual relationship with a woman is an injustice that larger society has to address and fix. These are opposing views. So whenever anyone claims that their loneliness is an injustice done to them, oppressive, unfair, etc. They are essentially saying that they don’t follow belief 1). Because you can’t hold b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:57 AM
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Men don’t face any problems because they are men. But most men are working class and would benefit greatly from increased wages, social welfare programs, paid sick leave, pensions, etc. Which I do support.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:07 AM
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I believe them on an individual level. If you say that happened to you it probably did, I got no reason to believe you are lying. But a lot of you guys say “this happened to me and it happens to ALL men and ALL women do this” when statistics point in the polar opposite direction. When looking at larger society I look at stats and surveys, not one guys personal experience. If one woman was mean to you, sure that probably did happen, but it doesn’t explain why heterosexual marriage statistically p…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 09:56 AM
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Im not a pedofile. I’m not dating someone 10 years younger
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:18 PM
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It’s slang for good sex with a man
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:49 PM
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Women are more likely to be infected than men though. There isn’t a 1:1 correlation where having sex with an infected person automatically gives you an STD. Sometimes you just don’t catch it despite your partner being infected. So measuring STDs doesn’t measure the amount of sex someone is having.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 09:10 PM
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There will definitely be trolls. There’s already trolls on tinder, so that’s inevitable. I hope we can have a dating app that takes reporting seriously though. That those profiles don’t stay up for long and that people actually get banned. Because Tinder is notoriously bad at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:17 AM
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It’s the bar model. Make bars appealing to women and men will come.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:46 AM
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I don’t think this is true. At least not for me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:42 AM
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Bumble hasn’t been a failure? It’s like the third most known dating app on the market
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:40 AM
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I love this in theory- but how do I avoid accidentally matching with people I know in real life and want nothing to do with? Like a bad ex or real life stalker? That would be a concern of mine. Maybe it can have a safety feature where you have to sign up with your phone number and you can pre block a phone number before you start swiping.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:38 AM
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Men ruin dating apps bc of this (and some other behavior too, but let’s not get off topic). “We matched and she won’t even respond to my messages” You matched with her. She matched with every single man she swiped yes on. Every single one. She can’t meaningfully chat with 20 guys at once. “Tinder makes women’s expectations of men more unrealistic” Yes no shit. The first 2 min of having the app I got so many likes the app capped it at 99+. I can swipe for 10 minutes straight and every guy I like …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:34 AM
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Is pegging not sex? If she is willing to peg you, has she not agreed to sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 10:54 AM
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What if the only sex she wants is pegging?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:17 PM
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Monogamous means that you are sexually committed to one person. And that you don’t have sex with anyone other than them. If I’m dating a guy, and I really want to peg him, but he doesn’t want to, I can’t say “you are weaponizing monogamy to prevent me from pegging anyone- so I had to cheat on you with Mark who was willing to take it up the ass”. That’s completely absurd. If you aren’t happy with the relationship agreement you are in then renegotiate (open the relationship) or leave the agreement…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:12 AM
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If you have agreed to be in a monogamous relationship and it isn’t working out, you either remain monogamous, agree between the two of you to open the relationship or you break up. You don’t need to cheat on anyone. Just figure your own shit out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:40 PM
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Question 1: Personally I don’t think it makes any sense to ask society at large what your relationship to another person should look like. That’s for the two of you to define. Society should only get involved if there’s abuse, mistreatment, violence, etc. Stuff of that nature. (Which sexual coercion and rape is). You can absolutely expect sex in a relationship. But you can’t demand it. Date someone who wants to regularly have sex with you, and if it dries up, you get over it or you break up. Tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:38 PM
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You are not entitled to someone’s body just because you are dating them. If you are unhappy with the amount of sexual activity in your relationship then you can learn to live with it or break up. I can’t believe you thought of sexual coercion, rape and cheating before you thought of just breaking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 09:04 AM
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Women aren’t socialized to seek casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 07:37 PM
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The only things determined by biology is that women get infected more easily and that women can get pregnant. Both of which can be avoided by wearing a condom, or regular testing with reliable birth control. All the other things are social factors. Casual sex doesn’t have to suck for women, men make it suck for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 05:15 PM
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I’m bisexual- and like, is your mate even into women if he won’t eat her out?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:50 PM
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Oh my boyfriend isn’t doing any of that. But past partners have, and I’m not putting up with it anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:45 PM
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Im 24, he’s 29
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:38 PM
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My boyfriend woke up, I put down the phone mid response, we made out, and then he headed out. I didn’t go “sorry babe, I wasn’t done responding to the incels online, so we have to take a break”. That would be absolutely insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 11:48 AM
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Just have sex with each other then? Idk
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 11:44 AM
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That’s sad. Don’t you enjoy anything but sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:29 AM
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So people who don’t have sex aren’t alive?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:17 AM
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I live having sex. Me and my boyfriend have sex on a near daily basis. I literally stopped halfway through writing this to make out. It’s just that I don’t only like sex. I want to enjoy other things too. There’s a lot more to a relationship than just sex. There’s cuddles, cooking, hanging out, dates, etc. There’s life. You know?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:06 AM
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It’s not that we don’t want to have sex with our partners. As someone who’s attracted to men- trust me, I wanna fuck em. But a lot of men expect sex, and hint at wanting it all the time until they get it. Go to a nice bar and hear a good live concert? He’s trying to drag you back to the hotel room before the song is over. Trying to get a tan? He keeps asking how long it takes and when you’re going to be done. Went out for a nice meal and met some lovely fellow tourists? Well too bad, he’s trying…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 09:25 AM
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I don’t think you are getting the point at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:44 AM
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So if she’s worth less the higher her body count is- then why would you want to increase her body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 10:20 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:00 PM
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Men think women are worth less and that they will become miserable by having short term sexual relations. Men then seek short term sexual relations with women. Am I missing something?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 09:19 AM
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I know plenty of men Who do call women used up and worthless if they aren’t virgins anymore. But even using your logic; if every sexual partner adds to a number that will eventually wreck her entire life and make her miserable - why do you then want to sleep with her? Why do you want to participate in ruining her life?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 09:16 AM
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I have seen so many men basically say a woman’s life is over if she has sex. And all I can think is “if you really feel that way it’s sadistic to want to have sex with her”.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:41 PM
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If you are chronically addicted to pornography you are not a traditional husband and do not qualify for a traditional marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 01:56 PM
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Name a single moment in history where it was worse to be a man than a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:07 AM
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If the main drive for men throughout all of human history has been women, how come all of human history consists of women suffering at the hands of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:50 AM
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If you are sleeping with a sex worker you aren’t “practicing how to fuck” you are fucking. Do you think sleeping with any woman but your actual girlfriend doesn’t count as sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:37 AM
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I’m sorry I don’t think I understand what you wrote
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:11 PM
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The shaming isn’t necessary Shaming people is a social tool used to make them stop behavior that is harmful to others. As an example we shame people who park in handicap spots because handicapped people need those spots and we want them to stop parking in them. We don’t shame people who walk to the store instead of driving because that is not behavior that is harmful to others and we don’t need them to stop doing that. As long as the sex is consensual and enjoyable for both parties involved, hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:30 PM
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It’s an anti rapist campaign. If you think of it as an anti-man campaign it says more about how you view both men and rape than anything else really
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:25 AM
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Because when you live with someone who doesn’t take on their share of household responsibilities they are actively pushing work onto you and stressing you out. They are the source of some of your negative emotions and that makes it harder to find sex with them appealing. When you are in a relationship with someone they have taken on the responsibility to care for you emotionally. If you are upset or crying others will instinctively seek out your partner to help you, instead of say a friend. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 02:03 PM
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Yeah. Caring what you look like and actually putting effort into your appearance is something men should do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:01 PM
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I would think she was being exploited and was lying to herself about the impact the industry had on her. But I wouldn’t stop being her friend. If anything someone in such a vulnerable position could really use a friend and safe person in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:10 PM
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I’m aware I treat people I’m attracted to differently than those I’m not attracted to. If I’m trying to sleep with someone I will be flirty, forward and get out of my way to spend time with them. If I’m not interested in sleeping with someone we’ll still hang out and I will be nice and make jokes, but it will all be platonic on my end. If it’s creepy or not depends on if it’s consensual or not. If I’m not attracted to you I will ask you to stop. If you don’t stop then that is creepy and sexual h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:29 AM
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Plus; raising children is an actual benefit to society. We need a population. Robbing people and committing assault are not actions that are beneficial to society
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:58 PM
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Men can be happy, it just can’t be at the expense of women’s wellbeing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:49 AM
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I can only answer from my own experience; You look at actors and models, and they all have the same body type as you. Men get suspicious or confused if you attempt to initiate conversation with them. Women will compare their bodies to yours and complain that they want to look more like you. People accuse you of wearing makeup when you don’t and get shocked if you say you aren’t wearing any. When you talk about insecurities you are accused of trying to make others feel bad. People expect you to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 09:27 AM
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Is “would, but no chance” women you think are really hot, but doubt you have a chance with?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 09:20 AM
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This is very true. I know so many men who are way off at guessing how attractive others find them. Some will say that they think they are quite the catch and that really hot woman they know isn’t good enough for them and that they are at least an 8/10. Meanwhile they have a receding hairline, beer belly and can’t dress for shit. Solid 3/10, could be a 6/10 if they developed a sense of style. On the other hand you will have the most attractive man you have seen in your entire life say “I’m just a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 09:18 AM
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Anyone trying to “rack up a body count” is definitely a player
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 06:33 PM
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He doesn’t have to be. If he’s upfront with his intentions, respectful towards all his partners and doesn’t use any manipulation tactics then he could just be a guy who has a lot of sex. That being said I have never met such a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 10:53 AM
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My dating problem is that I have been assaulted multiple times and I’m scared I will get assault again
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 06:12 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:52 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 06:53 AM
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And that’s made you successful in the dating market?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:18 PM
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I don’t think you can be “too empathetic” as that’s just being able to see things from other perspectives and feel for others. But my general advice is that just because you understand why someone is sad doesn’t mean you have to fix the issue. I understand why a 5 year old is crying when they can’t have ice cream. Doesn’t mean I have to give them ice cream.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:53 AM
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Okay. So men want to appeal to women, they just don’t want to do any of the things that appeal to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:44 AM
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Men don’t want to appeal to women. Every time there’s a fashion trend or behavior that women on a large scale express that they find attractive men label it gay, and bully anyone who partakes in it. If you bother to dress “gay” aka dress in ways that appeal to women then more women will find you attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 08:53 AM
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I swear to God he doesn’t need to pay a woman to figure out dick goes in hole
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:24 AM
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That if the incel community truly was a community of lonely men who needed help getting girlfriends then it wouldn’t advise sleeping with sex workers because women find that repulsive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:23 AM
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You deserve to be protected from bullies. But women not liking you back isn’t bullying
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:48 PM
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Every woman I have talked to is repulsed by it. The majority of women on this sub say they are repulsed by it every time it’s brought up. Go on r/askreddit or something similar and ask if women are interested in men who have had sex with prostitutes. I can assure you the majority will say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:42 PM
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I have, every guy I’ve been friends with benefits with has gotten a girlfriend after I was out of the picture. Every single one. And they all said I was great girlfriend practice and that listening to me openly talk about my feelings helped them better understand women. Talking to me has gotten men girlfriends. Talking to you doesn’t give them jack shit
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:40 PM
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Do you think every woman you ask about body count is lying to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:37 PM
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No one. It’s like an instinctual thing from way back to feel safer sleeping around other people. From back when being attacked by wild animals at night was a real concern and people would sleep in shifts to stay safe. Those threats aren’t there anymore. But the feeling of safety of another person being there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:36 PM
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The person you are paying to have sex with you doesn’t actually want to have sex with you. They want money. The idea of having sex with someone who doesn’t want to sleep with me is so repulsive that it makes me want to throw up. If someone can comfortably knowingly sleep with someone who does not want to sleep with them, then we are so far away in terms of values that I want nothing to do with them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:47 PM
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I have helped plenty of men get girlfriends. How many have you successfully helped?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:44 PM
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You won’t get any sexual experience from prostitution that you can use with a partner that you aren’t paying. Sex catered entirely to your needs vs sex with a partner that expects you to pleasure her and tend to her needs aren’t really comparable. Do you think the sex worker will tell you that you are bad in bed and give you a list of things to improve? She won’t. If anything you will just delude yourself into thinking your fantasies and desires are mainstream and that whatever woman you can fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:51 AM
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Right. But that’s not oppression. Women have been forced into relationships they didn’t want to be in due to patriarchal structures of control. As some of those structures have been removed more women have been able to leave the institution of marriage, an institution that has statistically only benefited men. What you are grieving is the loss of control that allowed men to force women to be with them. You aren’t sad cause you’re oppressed, you’re sad because you can’t continue oppressing others…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:47 AM
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I don’t want to sleep with someone who wants to sleep with an unwilling partner they have to pay. If they have a body count of 200+ but all were consenting and non were sex workers then I honestly wouldn’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:41 AM
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Not being given access to someone else’s body is not oppression. Viewing someone else’s bodily autonomy as an attack on you because you feel entitled to access someone else’s body is being oppressive towards others while playing the victim card yourself. All oppressive groups in the entirety of human history has at some point claimed the group they are oppressing is oppressing them, when they no longer wish to be subjugated. This is no different. Your feelings aren’t undisputed facts, you are ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:35 AM
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Okay. Then I will be insecure cause I’m not changing my stance on that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:27 PM
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As a woman I feel really protected and taken care of when men hold me and let me sleep on the inside of the bed. There isn’t really any real threat to protect me from; but it feels really safe and nice. Like wow, I’m this precious loved person who is being held so no one can get to me. I sleep so much quicker and better that way. I try to hold guys too. I want them to feel precious and loved also🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:39 PM
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Doesn’t want to do anything or go anywhere. Never wants to try something new or out of his comfort zone. Insecure and unwilling to do anything that makes him noticeable. Won’t dance with you at the club. Won’t dress up for a costume party. Won’t join you to a “girly movie”. Never has anything interesting to say and can only do small talk. Scared to talk about feelings or anything serious. Has no personal style and just dresses in jeans and a t-shirt. Puts you down for acting “weird” or “crazy” i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:31 PM
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Also; women do not like men who sleep with sex workers. Nearly all women I know consider it a red flag or flat out dealbreaker. You get short time sexual satisfaction, but you self sabotage for all foreseeable future.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:22 PM
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You don’t have the right to take other people that’s rape and slavery
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 05:59 AM
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You are using terms that are meant to criticize governments and applying them to individuals. Free speech = the government can’t punish you for sharing your beliefs. Your cousin not inviting you to her birthday party because you said you voted for trump is not an infringement on free speech. She’s not the government. Eugenics = the government controls reproduction by enacting means to limit population growth amongst groups deemed undesirable and/or enacting means to increase population growth am…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 03:42 PM
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It depends a lot on the tone and what they are saying. If they are just lonely and feel upset they haven’t been able to find someone they like I do feel for them. Not in a “oh no the world is so cruel to you” way, but in an “I’ve felt lonely in the past and I can empathize with that” sort of way. If they start talking badly about women, have a victim complex or insist that “something has to be done” I lose all empathy. You can't really empathize with how "hard" it is for someone else that you ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 10:57 AM
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I’m not just talking about the internet. I’m talking about everything. Internet. TV. Everyday conversations. How many men do you really think has never said a negative comment about a woman’s sexual life or sexual history? As far as I’m aware it’s the majority. Maybe I interact with the world differently than you do. I’m a woman who openly talks about having sex and answers questions about my sex life honestly. From my perspective; it’s nearly all men. I can’t think of a single man I know in rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:04 PM
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Exactly; so if nearly all men participate in slut shaming, which is a part of purity culture, then nearly all men participate in purity culture
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:21 PM
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Slut shaming and purity culture is intertwined. You can’t slut shame if purity culture doesn’t exist
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:11 PM
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Your comment history for starters
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:10 PM
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Do you think that it’s only a minority of men that engage in slut shaming and purity culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 09:09 AM
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I will say it again and again; Men want to be able to have casual sex with women whenever or to have sex with the girls they fancy early on in the dating phase; yet they absolutely loathe women who engage in casual sex or who “give in” too early. The social sanctions put on women who engage in this behavior; shaming, exclusion, degradation, name calling, sexual harassment, etc. are insanely strong and at times dangerous. Not only are you treated like complete shit. You are also prime pray for ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:21 AM
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Right. So you have to take fewer risks and be more picky about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 07:20 AM
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You can always make vegetarian sushi, it’s pretty good too
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:24 PM
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I’ve started making my own sushi because it wasn’t financially viable to buy sushi 2-3 times a week (I really like sushi). It was a bit hard in the start, but after I got the hang of it it’s genuinely been my go to quick cheap meal. As long as I have precooked rice in the fridge it doesn’t take more than 10 min to make a plate. Rolls I make a lot; salmon, avocado and cream cheese canned tuna with mayo and Sriracha and thinly sliced cucumber asparagus, avocado and cream cheese (I know they don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:16 PM
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So sorry😅 palak paneer is really delicious though. It’s vegetarian, but a lot of vegetarian Indian food is unbelievably delicious since such a large portion of their population are vegetarian. They really know how to do it. Would seriously recommend 10/10
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:10 PM
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Calamari isn’t that popular over here. I usually get something from the cuisine the restaurant specializes in. Italian restaurant? Pizza or pasta. Sushi restaurant? Tuna roll. Indian restaurant? Palak paneer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:02 PM
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Oh I really like sushi
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:59 PM
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I’m a pescatarian, so I will pass on it, but it probably is better than it looks
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:55 PM
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Me and my friends all have different tastes in food. When we go to restaurants we always order different things. None of us ever order stake tartar.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:44 PM
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Yes and no. As a communist I think there’s no liberating work under capitalism, because the workers don’t own the means of production and like you said, you do not have the option to not work at the threat of starvation or homelessness. When that’s said; non-consensual labor isn’t necessarily traumatizing. Being forced to participate in selling cookies for my sister’s soccer team, no matter how shit and how little I want to do it, is not traumatizing, it’s just inconvenient. Being forced to have…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:50 AM
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I don’t want any kids and I don’t care about how prestigious my partners work is. I literally just want a partner who works about 8 hours a day and actually has time for me
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 04:46 PM
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I’m talking ten hours plus commute. That’s like all the day actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 11:55 AM
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I wouldn’t want to date someone who worked 10 hours a day either
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 10:41 AM
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Has it occurred to you that someone with two jobs has very little spare time for a girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 08:51 AM
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Then I don’t understand. Why are you on this debate forum?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:35 PM
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Isn’t it God’s will to keep you waiting then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 12:51 PM
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Wait I just got introduced to the concept “christpilled”. Aren’t you just voluntarily celibate?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 08:26 AM
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You are so close to realizing why women don’t want to rely on men financially
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:14 AM
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It does for me, but I’m a pervert
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:17 AM
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Well lesbians don’t use condoms. Gay men do use condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:11 AM
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So the redpill is not a universal truth and different women have different preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:00 AM
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Nah but I got an art degree so I can eyeball measurements pretty accurately
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:39 AM
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He told me, we had open conversations about our past sexual experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:39 AM
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Not sure, he never brought it up
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:20 AM
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He was really good at everything. Knew how to run his fingers, had really good rhythm, was into the same kinks as me. And his dick did feel really good in a way others just don’t do. I don’t know if it was slightly bent or if it was just cause I genuinely had feelings for him. But apparently a lot of other girls who slept with him also said he was the best they had had.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:08 AM
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Good dick means he’s good in bed. Like the sex is really pleasurable. Best dick I had was from a guy slightly below average
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 09:57 AM
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I think the nature of heterosexual sex might also affect it. Being penetrated is way more vulnerable than penetrating someone. We’re talking having someone inside you. I mean, I would be less picky about who I pegged than I would be who got to fuck me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:26 PM
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You don’t like it when we expect masculinity from you. You don’t like it when we take on masculine roles. wtf do you guys even want😭
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 09:36 AM
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Finally an interesting discussion! Here’s my two cents: There’s still baseline ethics, but they aren’t the same as they once were. Nowadays it’s more about open communication. It’s not a given people are looking for the same thing anymore so you actually have to ask, communicate and respect other people’s wishes. You can’t fuck someone into loving you and you can’t lie to people about your intentions and expect them to not get hurt. Exclusivity is an agreement between two people and has to be ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 05:39 AM
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I also think men are underestimating the vulnerability of being penetrated during sex. Being inside someone else and having someone else inside you are not equal in any way. Most guys can sleep with another man whenever they want. They just have to download Grindr and take it up the ass. They don’t want to do that. Even if you factor in for not being sexually attracted to men, most men still do not want to get pegged by women. Even if they experience attraction to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 05:15 AM
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I mean, if they are going around assaulting people they are probably having more sex. But I don’t think that really proves anything
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 11:08 AM
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There’s no denying that men and women are biologically different from each other. But in comparison to other species we don’t really look that different from each other. Think about birds. Most male birds are born naturally colorful to grab the attention of female birds. The female birds? Pretty plane. Think about reindeer. Male reindeer lose their antlers during winter, female reindeer do not. One quick glance and you can tell who’s who. Think about lions, male lions have manes, female lions do…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:19 AM
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I would never have sex with or date a guy I was aware had purchased sex. Why? Because the person they are buying from would not sleep with them had it not been for money. That means that they are knowingly having sex with someone who doesn’t actually want to sleep with them. To me the idea of having sex with someone who doesn’t actually want to sleep with me is so repulsive that it makes me nauseous. And if he can do that comfortably without thinking about it? Well, then I find him absolutely di…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:35 AM
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I think it’s more accurate to say men are opting out of society than it is to say that men are being left behind. All of these spaces are still wide open to them; they just don’t want to be in them. And I don’t know if it’s because they originally only went to parties/bars/concerts to pick up girls and since their self confidence is so low they don’t want to try anymore. Or if some of the spaces are completely unappealing to them because there now are more women there, like college. Maybe both o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:44 AM
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Men who push boundaries or insist on making you do things you don’t want to do. You are probably thinking “duh obviously if a guy harasses you you feel unsafe”. But I’m not talking about sexual boundaries. I’m talking about mundane situations. Like if you are at a restaurant and you have this conversation: Him: you have to try the mud cake Her: I’ve heard the tiramisu is really good and I’ve been craving it so bad Him: no trust me you want the mud cake. I’ve eaten here a thousand times Her: I ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 09:56 AM
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I think most sexual activities are fun so I’m happy with oral only, dick only or a combination of both. Honestly I just want to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:31 PM
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Fascinating. First you tell me that it’s important to teach kids trades they might want to work in if they aren’t gifted academically so they can have a future outside of school. Then you say we don’t need to do that for any of the trades traditionally done by women because they are all stupid and not important. Then you say women usually get what they want because female interests are prioritized. You don’t think you might be contradicting yourself here? And women do essential jobs. The majorit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:36 AM
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So if someone else is qualified for a job based on experience and education and you are not, the solution to getting hired is to learn a trade or go back to school?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:31 AM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ipu7uwb82zw This is pretty much what you are in for. But don’t be surprised if women here aren’t that interested. You still have to compete with other men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 10:15 PM
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I’ve done animation, been a waitress and worked a couple store jobs. Never had an e-mail job. We also do; nursing, teaching, hairdressing, customer service, psychology, floral arrangements, veterinary care, etc. Plenty of non “e-mail jobs” done by women. Maybe you just underestimate the value of those jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:37 PM
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Like if you go on dates the girl plans it and the guy just goes along
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:32 PM
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I am actually Scandinavian so I can vouch most of the utopia claims are false or exaggerated. But this one is my actual experience. Especially the paying separately one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:30 AM
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Absolutely no one has a school system that is entirely catered towards them unless they are homeschooled or attend private school. It’s not like we learn anything about hair care or arranging flowers. Two trade based jobs that are dominated by women. Is the school system prioritizing high paying jobs and centered around preparing for academia above trades? Yes. But that’s not a gendered issue, that’s classism. And there’s no indication that the education system is hostile towards men. In my coun…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:26 AM
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How is any of this defying reality 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:10 AM
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We’re not talking about the rebuilding process where women were told to leave or straight up fired to make room for the men returning. We’re talking about the time during the war
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:08 AM
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We already did this during world war 2 and it worked just fine
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:44 AM
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I don’t mind my taxes going to welfare at all. And I live in Scandinavia
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:43 AM
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Then why don’t they try and learn a trade? I’m an animator and pretty much all guys I know in the industry are self taught and got into our university program through admissions, not grades. I know guys who almost flunked out of high school who worked entire summers fixing their relatives cars and helping their dads build cabins and fences. And when they got out of high school they applied to be in programs to become mechanics or carpenters. And if they don’t want to do a trade or get higher edu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:29 AM
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There are some cultures where these don’t apply. I live in Scandinavia and: everyone is expected to pay for themselves here girls mostly lead and you just show up women usually initiate sex oh trust me you are going to do half the cleaning and cooking or else you are in for it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:34 AM
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It seems like all patriarchal fantasies hinge on dominating others, and the other is usually a woman. If you can’t outearn and financially overpower your wife, then why work at all? If you can’t overpower and control your wife in any aspects of her life, then why get married at all? So many men aren’t willing to improve their lives unless it means winning over someone. When I talk to working class women their fantasies of being rich include vacations with their friends and buying nice things for…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:15 AM
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I feel bad for men sometimes. Not because I think they have been wronged, but because loneliness isn’t any fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:34 PM
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They don’t want to date women who already act that way. They want to exert control over women who don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:00 PM
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I think they have convinced themselves that people only date for looks and that no one cares about personality or compatibility, so they don’t comprehend what the dating phase is even for. They literally think you just find your “looksmatch” and then every relationship is the same and/or follows the same rules. So when they see girls express desires to have relationships they don’t like the dynamics of they go and complain and try to argue their way into universal rules that cater to their wishe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:59 PM
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If you want a girl who dresses modestly then go for a girl who dresses modestly while single. If you want a girl who doesn’t drink or go clubbing then go for a girl who does neither while single. The problem is that men hit on women at bars and parties who wear revealing clothing and then act completely shocked when she’s still a party girl in revealing clothing while they are dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:51 PM
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I think the emotionally mature way to deal with that is honesty. You can tell the woman that you aren’t at a point in your life where you are ready to be emotionally open or intimate about feelings, but that you still feel sexual attraction to them and would like to sleep with them if they want to. They might say no because then you are no longer someone they want to sleep with, but then at least you know you aren’t deceiving anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:26 AM
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My ex would get jealous a lot. But he would never communicate that in a way where we could solve it together, he’d just yell at me and insult me. And when I reacted negatively to this he said it was impossible to share his feelings. And I tried to tell him, multiple times, that if he just told me he felt jealous instead of insulting and blaming me we could have productive conversations. But he didn’t want to do that. It would go like this: “You dress like a whore please stop wearing that” “I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:21 AM
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For me I want a man who’s emotionally mature. He’s able to communicate his feelings with me and listen to my feelings. I want both someone who will open up to me and someone I can open up to. But my experience with men who try to open up is that it’s very much a one way thing. I’m not interested in someone who has the emotional maturity of a toddler just crying until I give them what they want while insulting me. And I’m not interested in being on 24/7 support duty for someone who tells me to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:15 AM
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Girls are already taught to prioritize boys feelings over their own from a very young age. It’s not directly said, it’s conditioning. From kindergarten I have had my hair pulled, been punched, spat on, yelled at, insulted, etc. all by boys my age. Any attempt at telling on them was met with “they just have a crush on you”. So from the age of 4 I have been taught to just take mistreatment from boys if they are interested in me. Did I get to do this back if I liked them? No. I got a stern talking …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:58 AM
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I think one of the biggest problems with the modern feminist movement is the idea that you can empower yourself out of oppression. When in reality the end to gender based oppression can solely be accomplished by abolishing the patriarchy and making men change their behavior. Telling women they are strong is not going to make their husbands stop beating them. Telling women to sexually liberate themselves is not going to stop men from harassing and raping them. Telling women pregnancy is powerful …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:38 AM
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Also; a lot of incels cry over promiscuous women not wanting to sleep with men who are inexperienced and call it “virgin shaming”. They want to sleep with both promiscuous women and virgins, get an insanely high body count and then only date virgin women because the promiscuous women “aren’t good enough” for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:51 AM
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These guys will shit, cry and throw up if anyone as much as suggests they lower their standards. Whatever preference they have is the bare minimum for everyone, is their “looksmatch” and they feel inclined to mock and belittle anyone they don’t find attractive. But if a woman just isn’t interested in them she’s oppressing them and they send her death threats
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:45 AM
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The overweight women looking for gym rats usually call it a preference though, they don’t claim a moral high ground
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:42 AM
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If they genuinely think my value as a person decreases every time I have sex with a new partner and that losing my virginity spoils me forever why would they want to do that to me while claiming to love me?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:40 AM
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I’m pretty young looking for my age and actually promiscuous. Guys act like I’m tricking them by looking cute and having a high body count at the same time. I have heard “but you look so innocent” so many times
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:37 AM
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It probably is true that some men are more desirable to women than other men. This isn’t exactly shocking news. But I don’t think men understand what we find attractive at all. I think they project their fantasy of what they want to look like onto us and then claim that’s what we desire while blaming us because they can’t reach those standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:14 AM
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I am a woman who’s into casual sex and I can confirm there’s a lot of men attempting to grab my attention at the same time. It kinda ruins the mood sometimes. I’m like “it’s so fun drinking with this dude I’m having a great time it would be fun to fuck later”. But then guys I have either slept with before or that have heard I’m promiscuous will attempt to approach me either while I’m talking to some other guy or wait til I’m walking to and from the bathroom to stop me and make a move. I usually …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:08 AM
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This reminds me of the whole “women have no idea how much it hurts us to be put in the friend zone” discussion. We know. We have all been friend zoned ourself and we know what rejection feels like. But I’m not entering a relationship I don’t want to be in. If men can’t handle rejection they aren’t mature enough to approach us.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:01 AM
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I don’t think it’s super easy for men to get laid. And if you think about it it makes sense. If you are having heteronormative sex then you are asking someone to get penetrated by you. That’s a very vulnerable position. How many of you would agree to get penetrated by a stranger if they approached you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:57 AM
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As someone who sleeps around a lot I have multiple times found out that sex partners secretly were in relationships without my knowledge. Making me an unwilling accessory to their cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:50 PM
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Weird
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:39 AM
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I don’t know what the right way to take that could even be
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:24 AM
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I believe the purpose of laws should first and foremost be to protect people. Not to punish behavior we don’t like. So for me to be in favor of a law I have to believe that it will 1) successfully protect people from something bad and 2) not harm people in ways that are disproportionate in comparison to what it would protect them from. I’m in favor of sending murderers to prison because it makes less people commit murder, removes dangerous people from society and is proportionate to the actions …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:06 PM
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You are proposing a law and I’m explaining what it would realistically look like. Laws aren’t just concepts of morality they have to be enforced and exist in a legal system. There’s thousands of things that are wrong and bad, but can’t be illegal because that would have negative consequences. The fact is that people will make agreements about what they do in their marriages that are outside of the contract and they won’t apply to change the contract before they do that. I mean if your wife rando…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 05:18 PM
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Revising the contract is a legal procedure and can take a while. I don’t want to live in a world where I have to ask the government for permission to have sex and then be put on hold.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 05:07 PM
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You only really answered one of the questions. But let’s say you get married and originally say sleeping with others is cheating. But then you and your wife get invited to a swingers party and you decide together that you would like to try. Then your wife chickens out and doesn’t go through with it, but you do not knowing she changed her mind. She then takes you to court because you broke the marriage contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 02:49 PM
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Here’s a couple reasons: If a married woman is raped by another man and her husband doesn’t believe her can she then be taken to court and sued over getting raped? You could make an exception for rape, but rape is really difficult to prove so the exception would only be functional if it’s trust based and doesn’t require evidence. But then that creates an incentive to lie about being raped for cheaters who want to avoid getting sued. Then there’s the fact that some people have open marriages or a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 02:33 PM
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Uh yeah. That’s what women are trying to tell you. We can do everything right and men will still hate and mistreat us
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:19 AM
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Everyone is entitled to decide for themselves if they want to have sex or not
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:18 AM
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Not sure if this is a real comment or brilliant satire. I thought it was funny though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 07:17 AM
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Not looking to pluck one. Just wanna fuck for fun
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 03:56 PM
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The thing is I’m really hot and I attract everyone. So I’m just playing with the cards I got
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 12:24 PM
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I think a lot of women’s experiences with men are exactly that; immature assholes. And you can say whatever about “not all men”, but it doesn’t change the fact that when such a large amount of men act like that it makes it so that women distance themselves from all men. And these men aren’t some mythical creature you’ve never seen or interacted with. It’s probably many of the guys you think are totally cool and chill because you have never been the woman they were trying to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 07:27 AM
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I’m not lying? Why is this so hard for you to believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 07:21 AM
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When I say men do it I don’t mean “all men do it”. I mean that it’s a behavior and thought pattern I have only ever seen in men. And I’m bisexual so I have had plenty of chances to encounter it in women. Yet I haven’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 09:18 PM
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I mean, it sucks, but I’m secure enough in myself to handle it. But I know a lot of people aren’t. If you wonder why girls don’t like casual sex it’s cause almost every girl who tried went through that at some point. Men put down social sanctions to discourage women from casual sex, yet complain that women won’t have casual sex with them. When you point out their hypocrisy they get defensive and refuse to engage in conversation. They apparently never slut shame. If I bring up multiple instances …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:55 PM
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Me: men hate sexually promiscuous women You: sorry to break it to you but men hate sexually promiscuous women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:48 PM
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That’s okay. I don’t really get hurt by it anymore. I think they are kinda pathetic and I very loudly giggle when they inevitably ask to hit again. Sex is fun and all, but Im so emotionally detached from it that someone I mostly consider to be a quick fuck can’t really hurt my feelings. They could be a long term friend if they wanted to and knew how to behave. But if they don’t they can rub one out and wonder why girls don’t talk to them. Not really my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:47 PM
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They don’t actually like promiscuous women. They like tricking non-promiscuous women into having sex with them. They like the power play, and they like the idea of me being a slut just for them. They are eager to jump into bed with me, and they are eager to brag to their friends and call me a slut to my face the day after. The problem is if I don’t seem to care and just go “yeah I am”. This pulls the rug from down under them. I like having sex? I am just promiscuous? They didn’t trick me or win …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:07 PM
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Guys will go out of their way to tell me they aren’t interested in sluts and that I’m disgusting to them. Despite me never hitting on them. So yes, even guys who are uninterested do actually hate me for sleeping around.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:07 PM
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Ironically I do what a lot of men claim they want women to do. I sleep around and say yes to most guys who ask me. Mostly just cause I think sex feels good. Do they like or respect me more for it? No. They hate me when I say no and they hate me when I say yes. It’s not really about what I answer. They just hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 12:10 PM
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You have the right to food. That’s an actual human right supported by the first UN human rights declaration. You are also entitled to things like housing, water, medicine, etc. Those are all things you legally have the right to access to. You obviously don’t have the right to be provided with material possessions beyond that. But you have a right to ownership of things you yourself have acquired. If I buy a TV I legally own that TV and have the rights to decide over it, use it as I please and ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:49 PM
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But people aren’t objects or food. I have the right to own property. I can buy a car, a house, a TV, etc. I don’t have the right to own people. That’s slavery. Your entitlement to things is not comparable to entitlement to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:31 PM
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Well only if Gen z was the only generation and if no one’s queer
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:09 AM
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In the looney tunes show Daffy Duck gets kicked out of a country club and says “I wouldn’t want to be a member of a club that would have me anyways”. And I think that’s the incel position on women. They view themselves as the scum of the earth, so anyone willing to sleep with them must obviously be deranged or filthy. They must be bad women. And they only want the best women. How do you know she’s a good woman? Well the good women wouldn’t associate with the scum of the earth, so by rejecting th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:33 PM
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I’m not stupid. I know you guys only invite us because you view us as objects for your own entertainment and/or pleasure. What y’all are missing in my comment is that none of you are being invited to our parties. How can we be so uninterested in having you in our spaces, yet rely on you for fun? Like I said; I have never had a girl at an all girl party say “I’m bored let’s invite some guys”. Never.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 05:59 AM
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There’s multiple reasons why having hobbies helps you get dates. you get to be more social and work on your social skills. For incels this is really important because a lot of you guys have isolated yourself far from normal society. you have another place to meet new people which ups your chances at meeting someone you might not have more conversation topics with people who don’t share your hobbies, but actually having an answer to “what do you like to do?” is going to help you sound like a well…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 12:24 AM
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I have never been at a party with all girls and had someone say “we should get some guys to come”. I have been invited to plenty of parties where I’m the only girl and the guys are desperately trying to find women who are interested in coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:03 AM
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The core hypocrisy is that they feel men are entitled to choose any partner they want and demand to be loved unconditionally despite all imperfections. But they don’t extend this so-called-right to women. Every man is a person with or without flaws, and every woman is an object whose value decreases with every perceived flaw they can point out. And they feel like all men, on account of being people, deserve a flawless woman. Because offering them a woman “of less value” insinuates to them that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 09:59 AM
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Ah yes, if we don’t count all types of slavery and only count the types that affect men the most we can produce a statistic that gives men a marginal higher percentage of enslaved people and use this to confirm our pre-existing belief that men are the most oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 09:28 AM
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About 70% of all enslaved people are women. If you want a realistic picture of what an enslaved person looks like; you would be looking at a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 12:36 PM
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What world do you live in? Most victims of domestic abuse are women who are abused at the hands of men. Men get women pregnant so they are unable to work for long periods. So they rack up medical bills. And so they are stuck with a child that will cost them a lot more money than a single parent is likely to make in this economy. So they are the most physically vulnerable they have been in their entire lives and even less able to fight back. How would men be more vulnerable to abuse in this scena…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:23 PM
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The government has the right to legally demand people pay sums of money. They make you pay taxes. They can deem someone is entitled to monetary compensation from you, due to your actions. They can make you pay alimony. This is completely normal and affects both women and men. The government does not, however, demand that you use your organs to keep someone else alive. Not even your child. If you had a child, and they would die if you didn’t donate an organ, you could still legally refuse. Bodily…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 08:16 PM
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But that’s the thing. She’s already pregnant at the time when he would opt out. So for a woman who views abortion as unthinkable there is no choice. She has the baby no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:24 AM
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I think you are misunderstanding me. I’m saying if a woman aborts a baby no baby will be born. But if a man relinquishes all responsibility the baby will still be born. So in the latter scenario there’s a child that has to be taken into consideration. Something that is not a factor in the first scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:51 PM
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Many men do this already. That’s how I know they would abuse this system and continue to find ways to get women pregnant and leave them on purpose. The women can’t really “make an informed decision”, because they are already pregnant when the news of abdication would be delivered to them. For women who don’t see abortion as an option there is no choice. They just have to follow through with it, but with worse conditions than they originally thought. That’s sort of the problem. This line of think…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 08:54 AM
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The main argument for abortion, and my only argument for abortion, is bodily autonomy. No human being has the right to use another human being’s body without their consent to keep themselves alive. That’s not a right that exists for anyone. You have correctly identified that it is wrong to let the father decide if the mother has to abort or not. That is literally someone else deciding if you are having a medical procedure or not. Which again violates bodily autonomy. No adult has the right to de…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:53 AM
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“I paid for the date and everything!” I’m not a sex worker. And if I was I can assure you it would cost more than a fucking burger
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 02:36 PM
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“I don’t know why she’s being so confusing and playing mind games. It’s impossible to know if she’s interested.” “Then just ask her” “But then she’ll say no” “You don’t really sound that confused to me. Seems like you understand perfectly”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 02:35 PM
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Exactly. Because what even is an asshole to most guys complaining women are choosing wrong? Sure. There are guys who are abusive. In which case fair enough. But most of the time when guys say shit like “he doesn’t deserve her” or “he’s not a good guy” they don’t actually mean that he’s violent or anything like that. They mean that he’s romantically involved with a woman they are interested in and isn’t doing exactly what he himself would have done in a relationship. He has the girl he wants, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 08:49 AM
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On one hand they argue women have too high standards, that we should settle for men we don’t even like because “everyone deserves a chance” and that not having a girlfriend is some great injustice. On the other hand they think we should “pick better men” and blame us for anything a guy we date does to us because it’s apparently our responsibility to know what men are bad and to immediately cut all contact with them on any suspicion. In reality neither of these things is what they are actually as…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 08:35 AM
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I don’t like to have sex with people who don’t want to have sex with me. But I mastrubate and have sex with women. My sexual enjoyment is not reliant on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:18 PM
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Women enjoy sex because it feels nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:56 PM
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Sexism is and has always been mainstream. It has just gotten more violent due to radicalization from the internet. A bunch of people agreeing with you doesn’t make your perspective more right or your cause more justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 11:15 AM
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I think this might be true, and I do pity the people for whom that is the case. But what I do want to say is that for a lot of people that’s not the case, they are just too oblivious to catch on that people like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:54 AM
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The consequences of saying fuck off can be pretty drastic sometimes. You can be labeled a bitch and socially shunned. That is if he doesn’t get violent as a result. There’s a reason women use soft nos. And that’s because men have not traditionally responded well to direct rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 03:52 PM
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It really depends on who it’s done against too. I often hear people not listening to artists anymore because of their statements or not purchasing products due to commercials aired by the company producing them. That’s not cancel culture that’s boycotting. People have done that for centuries. The problem is small individuals or people just getting their career started, who don’t have a media department or manager to talk through, who don’t have someone to filter through their hate mail for them …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 01:56 PM
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I like that they asked in a public space, so they had the option to initially say no and leave while feeling somewhat safe of violent repercussions. So that’s a positive. But then there’s the question; do they feel safe withdrawing consent. If they change their mind can they do so without fear. Here the person asking is responsible for creating a safe space to say no. Saying things like “I know you have heard a lot of bad stuff, but if you change your mind or want me to stop, just tell me. I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 01:46 PM
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The main difference is essentially if you did what people are mad about, if it is something they should be mad about and if the reaction is proportional. I have seen people say “cancel culture” because they groped someone at a party and weren’t invited to the next party. That’s not cancel culture, that’s the natural consequence of your actions. But I have also seen the people who completely socially shun people for stuff like being gay or going through a mutual breakup where neither party has do…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 01:36 PM
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Honestly I feel like a lot of people say they were “cancelled” when in reality they just got socially shunned due to their own actions. Like if you aren’t a celebrity or did something shitty enough to go viral you probably didn’t get cancelled. And I have been socially shunned and treated like shit too. When I started having sex and people found out I ate lunch by myself for a year and people screamed slut at me everywhere I went. If I could handle that as a teenager and “just get over it” grown…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 12:02 PM
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I can explain it more simply; If she can’t say no she also can’t say yes. The implication So ask yourself; if she doesn’t want to have sex with me, can she safely go home? Are there any negative consequences on her part? If there’s nothing forcing her to say yes; then you can take that as a yes. Don’t pester her. Have you ever not wanted to do something and had someone ask you repeatedly over and over again until you caved and did it anyway? Yeah, men do that to women all the time. She’s sleepin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 11:15 AM
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I feel like a lot of people are lying when they say they “can’t tell”. Because in every other instance in their lives when they ask someone to do something they can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 11:05 AM
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Thank you🙏🏻 There’s so much all or nothing thinking on this sub and I really feel like we should be able to say something is not okay and morally wrong without people acting like you think they should be locked up forever or given the death penalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 11:03 AM
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I don’t know if any of you have seen it’s always sunny in Philadelphia, but they do a great job explaining “the implication”. That you can put a woman in a position where she’s unable to say no, and then make her say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 11:02 AM
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When I was 17 I was in a relationship with a piece of shit guy. He knew I had PTSD from getting raped and he knew that if he kept asking me for sex I would either cave or have a panic attack. Most of the time I caved and had sex I didn’t want to have a panic attack. Some times I didn’t cave and had a panic attack instead, with him offering little help. We had multiple talks about it, and he kept saying he understood he had to stop asking repeatedly after I said no, that he understood that he was…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 10:59 AM
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Same with the “women take forever to get ready🙄” crowd. There’s plenty of low maintenance women who don’t spend hours on their makeup, but you don’t want to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:57 AM
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If she’s 22 and older man can be a 28 year old
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:38 AM
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I don’t think women would want to anymore either. I can only speak for myself, but if I was going to sleep with a guy and had already made up my mind about it and he offered me money for it I would turn it down. Sex is fun when it’s an activity I choose to do. The second money is involved I have set a price for my own body. My own body has some sort of numerical value. Is my body worth less than a car? Then a house? Is it worth less than my phone? I don’t like that. I would just disengage comple…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 03:02 PM
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No. Because you sought out a specific forum that has people who already believe in your predetermined position. That’s confirmation bias. I, without looking for anything, observed that many of the conversations I have had with men have had a pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:55 AM
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Based on conversation I have had with men where they tell me their expectations for relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:17 PM
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It’s my own observation, nothing more
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:26 PM
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The thing is, they want to be loved unconditionally by a partner who has zero expectations of them and asks for nothing in return. But they want a partner that is conventionally attractive, that meets all their expectations in domestic labor, the bedroom and socially. That reads up on and gets involved in all their interests and worships them. That’s not an equal exchange
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:24 PM
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You never know if the person you are paying for wants to sleep with you or not. Maybe the are being trafficked, maybe they have a violent pimp, maybe they have to do it to pay rent but hate every minute of it. Someone who is willing to have sex with someone they don’t know if are in a position to consent is not a person I would not want to be in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:15 PM
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I think you are the one greatly underestimating how dire the situation actually is. Let’s start with the basic question; what is a good man? Because women and men have vastly different opinions on that. Most men I talk to describe their friends as good men, even though they sexually harass women when drunk, don’t know how to cook and hold sexist views. For a really long time being a good man just meant not sexually assaulting anyone, staying with a woman if you got her pregnant and not cheating …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:47 AM
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Firstly, I don’t want children. Pretty happy being child free. Secondly I never said women stay fertile forever. But most women actually do stay fertile to 35-40. Some even past that. What I’m trying to tell the boso who typed up this post is that if he thinks women are the ones who should rush to settle or find a partner to have kids with he needs a serious reality check
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:15 PM
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I think the wall is what has expired. Most women my age (in their 20s) don’t want children anytime soon and aren’t actively thinking about it. As a woman, if you want a child you can in many ways get it whenever you want until you turn 40. Sperm donation is readily available, getting a guy to date you and impregnate you is ridiculously easy and if you are struggling with fertility IVF and egg donations are a thing (if you really want kids you can set aside money and afford it). If men want biolo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 08:30 AM
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I’m not saying anyone should be deported. Just that if people voluntarily leave it wouldn’t be that bad
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 08:16 AM
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Actually most dietary and exercise advice is based on studies including almost only, or only men as test subjects. Most of us have no idea how women’s bodies process fat. The BMI scale is also horrendously unfair to women, as it doesn’t take into consideration fat that doesn’t go away, like boobs or ass. What we do know is that women have a higher natural fat percentage than men. That women’s hormones affect dieting more than we used to think. And that the “flat stomach” look can be actually imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 08:15 AM
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Most Americans aren’t even from the US anyway. If your family are settlers from Europe, why not just leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 08:09 AM
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Are the qualities you are bragging about things women find attractive, or things men think women find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 08:07 AM
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I don’t understand how I can agree with you guys and you are still mad at me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:49 PM
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Unfortunately this is true. But it’s another example of ways society objectifies women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 02:44 PM
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Men tend to use both physical and emotional abuse. If there’s physical abuse there’s almost always emotional abuse as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:52 PM
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Women don’t really suffer as much from being lonely. Men do. So that’s sort of what I’m getting at. If there’s less women to date men get sad about it. If there’s less men to date, women don’t really seem to care that much. Also; yeah some women do lie and that’s seriously uncool. But I feel like us women do get lied to more often and more viscously.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:02 PM
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Nice guys are essentially just liars too. They go around claiming to be naturally nice and true gentlemen, but if they don’t get sex in return when it was never even promised they throw a massive tantrum. We can talk forever about who has it worse. I think women have it worse, you probably think men have it worse. The discussion has really been had to death on this sub. But at the end of the day; women are disengaging from the dating market, and men are miserable as a result of it. That’s cause …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:12 PM
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Right. But when you guys do that us girls get so tired of being lied to constantly that we opt out of the dating market completely, leaving less people for you guys to date and increasing the problem of it being harder for men to find anyone. If everyone a girl thinks she’s about to get into a relationship with lies to her, and only uses her for her body, how many times do you think she bothers to try before she stops dating completely? After she leaves all the men who actually want girlfriends …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:17 PM
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I think the problem is also lying in general. Whenever my friends look for relationships they meet men who say they want that, but actually just want sex. When I look for just sex I meet men who say they just want to be friends with benefits, but actually want to lure me into a relationship. I actually overheard someone say that about me, “how do I lure her into a relationship”. And his friend listed tips for slowly tricking me into dating him instead of telling him to be honest or finding someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:44 PM
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I have never heard anyone say it’s men’s fault if women can’t find a man. What I have actually heard was “it’s impossible to find good men nowadays”. Which isn’t as much women blaming men for finding her undesirable as it is women saying they want a relationship, but will stay single because they can’t find men that don’t treat them badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:11 PM
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I think the people who don’t understand this are also part of the problem. They don’t see that finding a match takes time (and a lot of luck) and they think if they can make anyone agree to date them they can become a match. These people have caught on that other people only want to date people they have something in common with. So they decide to speed up the process by pretending to have things in common or lying to themselves and saying they “always wanted to try that” or “can learn to like i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 02:08 PM
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I think this was beautifully written and very on point👏🏻👏🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:56 PM
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I think that comes from how seriously we take dating in our teens nowadays. I read some texts on teens dating in the 50s and they would ask someone on a date just to have something to do on a Friday night. It was common to date multiple people before you went steady with someone. And agreeing to a date just because you wanted to join a group date or have someone take you to prom, even if you didn’t like them that much, was seen as socially acceptable. Today dating someone in your teens is seen a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:30 PM
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A lot of the time it’s no one’s fault. There just isn’t a spark there
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 07:44 PM
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Right. And women (if on the receiving end) have little to no control of if it’s done correctly
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:28 PM
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If I was planning on penetrating a man I would actually spend the whole time leading up to it making sure he was comfortable with me and doing nice things for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:30 PM
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If you are having penetrative sex you get to be inside of her. Do you understand how vulnerable it can be to have someone else inside your body? If they go too fast it hurts. If they don’t give you time to adjust it hurts. Women need reassurance that the person literally entering their body is trustworthy and won’t hurt them so bad they bleed. I know he will listen to me in bed and be gentle if he can spend a whole day listening to what I want to do and make sure I’m enjoying myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:58 PM
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The thing is, anyone can reject anyone for whatever reason. Your problem is that you don’t want women to be able to say no unless they give you a reason you can “agree” or “disagree” with. Which you will pretty much always disagree with. Using that mentality you can not only attempt to take away her right to say no, but hide behind calling her a bad person in stead of facing rejection and moving on. But there’s a problem. You still want the right to say no for whatever reason. Because you know b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:32 AM
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I just don’t think men perceive the average woman’s makeup as giving her the illusion that her skin is perfect. Makeup is messy, it has doesn’t look like normal skin. It can’t, skin has texture. When someone has a face with little change in color and no texture I, and most people, go “oh a face full of makeup”. No one I know thinks “perfect skin”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:51 PM
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“Makeup can’t really do that much” “It makes men think women have perfect skin” “What makeup does that?” “Stop nitpicking” Have you ever been to a debate before? If you make a claim someone will challenge it. You can admit you exaggerated for effect and move on, but don’t call challenging the things you are saying in a debate forum nitpicking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:50 AM
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What makeup gives you perfect glowing skin?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 10:06 PM
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It’s fucking funny that’s what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:27 AM
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No. Cheating isn’t the word I’m looking for to describe that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:27 AM
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Most women can tell tho? It’s not difficult. Her entire fascial skin is the exact same color? Makeup. Her lips are the shade of cherries? Makeup. Her eyelids are gold? Makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:26 AM
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I live in the western world and when guys put on makeup, nail polish and nice clothes all of us girls swoon over how hot we think they look. If you don’t want to that’s your choice, but don’t make it out that we don’t like it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:23 AM
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“Directly modifying the appearance of the face” You sound like you are talking about surgery. Most women do not have the experience to do the intense optical illusion makeup that goes viral on YouTube. Most women do not have the skills to alter their faces the way entire makeup crews do for a movie appearance. If you want to talk about the majority of women who use makeup on a day to day basis it is really not some extreme 50 step routine to alter the shape of their bone structure. It is usually…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:17 AM
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I am still struggling with how makeup even is unfair to anyone. Like?? These guys will sit around and scream about fucking surgery to combat “height discrimination” and shit like that, but then do a complete 180 and cry their eyes out over mascara and eyeliner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:05 AM
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Everything that’s visual works like that. Nice clothes that complement your shape= looking hotter Good haircut= looking hotter Growing a beard= looking hotter All of these are taking the looks you already have and elevating them to make yourself look and feel better. I know that it’s theoretically possible to alter your face drastically with makeup. But that requires a level of experience that most women just don’t have.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:03 PM
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Sexist attitudes, and negative views on minorities. Inability to take responsibility for his own actions and apologize properly. “I only did it because-“, “it was only partially my fault-“, etc. Hating on others interests and preferred media instead of hyping someone up. I don’t care if you don’t think what I’m listening to is “real music”, if I’m jumping with joy because I got a ticket to my favorite artists concert you should be cheering me on, not bringing me down. Unreasonable jealousy. Bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 11:42 AM
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Yes. That’s abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:36 PM
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I wouldn’t. For two reasons. If there’s no reason to think I’m cheating, why accuse me? I don’t cheat and if my partner doesn’t trust me then I don’t want the relationship. It’s paternity tests, and then it’s reading my messages, and then it’s texting me demanding to know where I am, etc. If I accept that it’s normal to be asked to prove I’m not cheating then I set a precedent for an evil circle of always having to prove a negative. I shouldn’t have to prove I’m not cheating, my partner should t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:31 PM
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There’s plenty of male empowerment songs about sticking it to the man (their boss) or sticking it to society. There’s also plenty of female empowerment songs about being beautiful the way you are, about making a life for yourself, etc. Women do get abused by men in way higher numbers than men get abused by women. For a lot of women the gap between where they are and where they want to be is to escape an abusive man. Women do have higher chances at building something for themselves if they are di…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:59 AM
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I would like to make two points: In regards to the crushes on the killers: it is really fucked up that these women do fantasize about these men, but they are in no way the majority and are perceived as weird by most other women. It’s also important to note that the women crushing on these men are not the victims of these crimes. Women tend to call men creepy when they enact a certain behavior towards themselves. The women crushing on these men have not had them be creepy towards themselves. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 12:59 PM
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I like what you have so far; I think I would add safety measures: actual employees who can be made to look through the conversation and ban people (temporarily or permanently) after reporting no one with sex crimes in their criminal record can sign up
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:27 PM
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There’s two things I can mean when I say someone is an average guy. He’s neither attractive or unattractive. He has no very good qualities or very bad qualities. We don’t have much in common and if left alone with him we would probably just talk about the weather or something. It’s not that he’s bad or that I have anything against him. I just don’t think about him that much. If my friend started dating him I would congratulate her and think she saw something in him that I didn’t. He’s misogynist…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:34 AM
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There’s some truth to women choosing to not date men who can’t meet their standards. I have been voluntarily single from 2019 up until now. Despite having multiple men ask me to enter a relationship with them, none of them were of interest to me. But the thing is that I was actually attracted to the men I said no to. I didn’t say no because I didn’t like sex or because I didn’t have feelings for them. I said no because I didn’t have faith in the men treating me well enough. So yeah, women are ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:47 PM
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Lying about things that clearly matters to the woman’s decision of if she wants to have sex. Examples: A girl who only wants to have sex with romantic partners is told a guy is really into her and wants to get with her. They have sex under the pretense that a relationship is on the way and he blocks her making it a one night stand. A girl is hit on by a guy who says he’s single. If the girl knew he had a girlfriend and sleeping with him would help him cheat she would say no. Because she believes…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:47 PM
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There’s nothing wrong with preferring feminine women. There’s also nothing wrong with being a feminine woman, forcing women to only prioritize masculine traits is a form of sexism. However, that’s not what people are criticizing when they say you shouldn’t seek out someone “submissive”. And I think you know it isn’t. They are criticizing looking for someone who’s is easy to manipulate and take advantage of. Because people seeking that out usually intend to do those things
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 08:06 PM
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Well your mid twenties is usually when you stop going to college, so that’s why they have stopped dating college guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 04:46 PM
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Yeah like the female version of the men who want all the perks of traditional dating, but also want their girlfriend to have a job and agree to sex before marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:24 PM
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No. She can set her own expectations for a partner and boundaries for what she is and isn’t comfortable with sexually. But if she’s unrealistic she can pay the price for that herself in a lack of partner. It’s not “stuck up” or “childish” to know what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:22 PM
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I wouldn’t call any of that pick me behavior. Pick me behavior is usually coded in misogyny and and putting other women down. What you did was put your own preexisting ideas of what dating is, and what you expect from a partner aside to prioritize his wants and needs first. There’s nothing wrong with that. But be careful not to lie or misguide him, in how you expect the relationship to be going forward. If you like this set up; awesome I’m happy for you. If you don’t; be honest with him
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:17 PM
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Because it’s not true. And it’s really frustrating to have people insist their worldview that is based on a lie is a good excuse to be mean to you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 12:55 PM
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Seriously. It felt like it happened over night when that song came out. 7th grade the boys would point and laugh and say “look at that fat ass”, and 8th grade they would sneak up behind me to slap it and say damn. I guess my two options were bullying or sexual harassment
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:50 AM
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I have always naturally been on the borderline between underweight and normal weight, and you know weight fluctuates so if I skip some meals I’m underweight and if I eat normally I’m just about normal weight. However, I get more compliments from men about having “the perfect body” when I’m underweight. I also look more like a model/porn star when I’m underweight
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:48 AM
1

I would be chill with it. Because either I trust that he won’t cheat on me, in which case it doesn’t matter how many girls hit on him because he will say no. Or I don’t feel sure he won’t cheat on me; in which case it is probably time to break up anyway. If he wants to cheat he will find a time and place to do so, and restricting what he does won’t help to stop it. Breaking up will.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:20 PM
2

My guess: Women who really care a lot: 10-12% Women who prefer taller men, but don’t consider it a must: 80% Women who don’t care at all to the point where they have no preference: 8-10%
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:47 PM
1

Also; while most adults can read perfectly fine, there’s a thing called reading comprehension. That is the ability to understand what is meant by what someone else has written. In this case reading comprehension would help you understand that when she wrote “after all, they have something other than their own laziness, isn’t it?” she meant that many men who are too lazy to put in effort choose to use being short as an excuse instead of fixing parts of themselves. Instead you read the word lazy a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:59 PM
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What she was saying is that the majority of women don’t make as big of a deal about height as many men would like to believe. Men, and particularly short men, often tell themselves and others the only reason they can’t get a date is because they are short. In reality there’s often many issues with these men that they themselves are not willing to address because it is easier to blame it on them being short, something out of their control, than to take personal accountability and actually address…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:48 PM
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I don’t think it is “a thing” on a wide scale anywhere. I kinda think a couple girls said so on tiktok or twitter and it went viral and men convinced themselves every woman thinks like that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:36 AM
2

This feels like the “move everything in the room slightly to the left until someone notices” game
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:33 AM
1

I think most other people understood what was communicated
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:32 AM
1

Nope:)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 02:26 PM
1

Been already. Can work on my own mental health, can’t therapy my way out of “shit life syndrome”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 01:44 PM
2

I live up north. Been to Oslo tho, surprisingly safe. Told some classmates. They asked “what are you doing this weekend?” and I said “just watching some movies by myself”. Also told a couple friends, who told some other guys. Isn’t much else to the story. It’s happened with three different guys. After that I stopped going by myself. Could be that I’m very unfortunate. Could be the statistic curse that women exposed to sexual violence is more likely to become victims again than women who have nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 01:06 PM
1

Sometimes it really does feel like I am living in a lifetime movie😂 the amount of sexual violence I have experienced is actually insane. But for most of the women in my life the things I listed are true. They all tell me too join them to the bathroom to avoid guys. I frequently get calls from my friends telling me someone’s following them and that I have to stay on line and be ready to call the police. We always watch each other’s drinks because all of us have experienced it tasting “funny” afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 12:39 PM
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I am talking from experience. If I go alone at night; followed by people/cars, catcalled and approached with a monetary offer for sex. The times I mentioned that I was home alone to people; harassed, sent rape threats and had an unknown car circle my home 9 times. The times I went to the bathroom alone in bars/parties: guys wait for me outside and when I open the door they push me in again and lock the door. I can’t speak for your life, but don’t try to speak for mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 12:32 PM
2

Yeah. My biggest wish for myself is to take a blanket, go to the park and watch the stars all by myself without fear. I only see them from a window, when I’m walking or with others who don’t appreciate them the way I do. I really want to just spend a couple hours appreciating how beautiful they are
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:44 AM
0

I live in Scandinavia, one of the safest places in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:41 AM
2

I’m bi and sometimes I fondle them and think about other women. I think that’s just me tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 08:57 PM
17

What I wish you guys understood; how limited our lives are because of men. All the liberties you guys earned with adulthood I will never have because men constantly try to sexually assault me. I can’t be out alone at night. If I am alone anywhere anytime I have to tell my mom or a friend. I can’t travel alone. I can’t be home alone and tell people about it. I can’t even go to the bathroom alone. What I want to understand; How are you guys around each other when there’s no women. I know we act di…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 08:53 PM
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The thing is; There’s nothing wrong with a traditional relationship that uses gender roles as the main basis if that’s what both parties want. The problem is that a lot of men don’t want that. They want a woman who does everything they say, and expects nothing in return. They want her to do all the domestic work, and also have a job. They want to keep the modern day privileges and traditional privileges, and her to take the modern day downsides and the traditional downsides. Almost no one will a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 10:03 AM
2

You don’t have to consider another person in your plans. You can move wherever it suits you, have whatever you want for dinner, decide to work overtime without having to call, leave mess and clean it when it suits you etc. As a woman that’s one of the main reasons I want to be single right now
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 08:58 PM
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Idk about the financial thing, that’s really weird. But I agree with the sentiment. If you are not able to take care of yourself, have a lot of emotional struggles you haven’t processed and you don’t know how to do basic household chores; you should maybe figure that out first. Women aren’t here to “fix you” or “take care of you”. Relationships are supposed to be equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:25 AM
3

It depends. Do you have a reason? It’s a very weird thing to ask someone “just because”.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:19 AM
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This might be shocking news to you, but: Women are people and not a free meal coupon for a delayed flight
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:03 AM
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I am really attractive and don’t care that much for looks since anyone would be “out of my league” anyway so it really doesn’t matter. But guys who are not conventionally attractive get super weird and mean. They constantly think I’m cheating for no reason and treat me more like a prize or prop. The idea that the “unattractive” guys are nicer is a lie made up by the guys themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:03 PM
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Yeah. I feel like the middle ground is “I know it’s awful to women, but anything that might get me laid is worth a shot”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:05 PM
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I understand that globalization has shaken up a lot of things, but some cultural differences still remain. I also think if a country copies the US or not depends a lot on if they view the US as above or beneath them. Most people here think very little of the US so we are very picky in what aspects we want to copy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 02:00 PM
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The “they just don’t care more than men do” was more directed at this entire sub as people frequently claim so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:47 PM
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I don’t think there’s anything wrong with caring about looks and that everyone should be able to pick a partner based on whatever merit they want. I don’t disagree that women care, they just don’t care more than men do. And for myself, I don’t really care personally. More into the ✨vibes✨
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:30 PM
2

We were at a party and I was all like “why would I leave a park to drink wine with just you? This party is buzzing”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:24 AM
2

You know, studying what’s different in other cultures can be a great way to figure out what is a natural impulse and what is not. If the thing is present in all cultures, it’s natural. If it’s only present in some it’s cultural
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:22 AM
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No. But they get different upbringings, experiences and expectations based on culture
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:01 AM
1

Yeah I have never tried “traditional dating” as it’s so outdated here that not even our parents recognize it from outside TV, but it doesn’t sound that easy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:59 AM
1

In the arctic circle
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:58 AM
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As a Nordic woman: can confirm. I usually feel like “I’m not a prostitute, and if I was I would be more expensive than a single meal”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:23 PM
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I’m from one of the cities in the arctic circle so I didn’t grow up that isolated. It really is just the culture. I have been to some of the biggest cities in the Nordic countries and two of the capitals. The dating culture is the way I described. I actually tried carefully to describe the southern one instead of my own, as I am aware the regional differences between north and south are quite massive, but that most people don’t live in the arctic circle
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:14 PM
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I find it really exotic and interesting to date people from other cultures
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 06:26 PM
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I don’t really relate to most of the dating cultures outside the Nordics at all. And most people (regardless of if they are from the west or not) find our way of doing things really weird. I talked with a guy friend of mine who dated a foreign girl who was upset he didn’t buy her flowers. We spent an hour talking back and forth and guessing when the appropriate time to get someone flowers is, and in what form you are supposed to hand them over. I am still not entirely sure til this day.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 06:25 PM
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It’s very funny because I actually am from the arctic circle. Guess we have our own little way of doing things. Such as in my city it is completely normal to walk up to a woman you don’t know in a bar and say “do you wanna make out?” and her answering yes or no depending on her mood. It’s so common for strangers to fuck in the bathroom at parties that hosts always hide the bathroom keys, and you have to have a friend outside guarding the door. I was shocked when I moved down south and a man aske…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 06:18 PM
1

But there’s still plenty of them here too!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:51 PM
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I only really went with what I know isn’t adding up. I know Nordic dating culture and I live close enough to Russia to have a rough understanding of their dating culture. But I would love more examples of different dating cultures and if they do or don’t match red pill theory. All I know is that the red pillers in my area seem very distanced from their own culture
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:58 PM
2

We don’t really date the way you guys do. We just hang out and do things together, usually at home or in nature. But pretty much everyone has sex before making it official. I don’t have any friends who wait until they are together
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:39 PM
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There’s also a really cool YouTube channel called “dating beyond borders” that goes country by country explaining dating culture
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:42 PM
1

So it sort of has three stages. The deniable flirting - friends with benefits - in a relationship. In the first part you can ask both parties “are you guys flirting?” and both will say “I’m not sure”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:41 PM
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Men on the other hand do less domestic labor than when single because said labor falls on the woman. When he doesn’t have to do things like laundry, cooking or cleaning he essentially only has work and free time. He is able to put more effort and time into his work, ask for more hours and potentially get promoted and a higher raise. He also has more time to rest which allows him to have a better mental and physical health. And to pursue his hobbies and spend time with friends
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:47 AM
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It is all connected. Married women take on more domestic labor, and if there’s children they take on more child related labor. This means the women have less resting hours and are more tired than when they were when single. Because they are that tired they perform worse in their jobs, and are very likely to cut back on hours to make it all work; which means they make less money and are less likely to be promoted. Then the man makes most of the money for the household doing paid labor outside the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:43 AM
1

Yes, it goes both ways. But it is women who don’t want relationships and women who file for divorce so it is pretty clear to me that one of the genders is not doing its part
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:34 AM
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Yes obviously. But statistically speaking women do keep men happy, and men don’t keep women happy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:00 PM
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Happy single is better than miserable in a relationship. If men want us to be in relationships it’s up to them to make it not miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:07 PM
2

Yes. I like casual hookups, but I don’t lose it if I don’t have any. While working on big projects I haven’t had time to meet up with people just for sex, so I spend every free minute and hour talking to and hanging out with friends. I would much rather have some wine with the girls than sex. These projects can last up to a year. But it doesn’t really matter because I don’t need sex to function. It’s just a fun thing to do
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:03 PM
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Exactly! Most women I met as a kid were doing so much housework and child care and rarely ever just sitting down. I don’t think I have seen my aunt relax in the last 20-years. I like to think our generation is better, but I have seen through friends that it’s not true. The second they move in together they become a servant or mother figure. I would honestly rather be single, and I have since I was 6 years old made a promise to myself to never do as much housework as my female relatives. I simply…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:57 PM
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I don’t think you are seeing the bigger picture. Married women: make less money are less likely to be promoted have a worse physical health have a worse mental health have less resting hours All of this cumulates in married women being less happy than single women, women requesting divorces more often than men and women choosing to wait longer to re-enter a relationship than men. Married men on the other hand: make more money are more likely to be promoted have a better physical health have a be…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:48 PM
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What kind of gaslighting?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 12:35 PM
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Can you explain what this “anti-male sentiment” is?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:37 AM
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We are mostly talking about the 60+ men who keep hitting on girls in their 20s (sometimes just 18) and won’t stop no matter how many people tell them to. As a 20-something woman; stop. We don’t like it. The girls who do usually do so for financial reasons and the very few who prefer men that old are such a tiny minority that they can approach you instead. If I hear one more old man start a sentence by “I’m probably too old to tell you this…” I’m going to throw up. Right there right onto him. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 09:00 PM
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Thanks, and sorry to hear that🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:46 PM
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I’m just unapologetically myself. I really throw myself out there and see if it sticks. Every thought that isn’t creepy or mean I say. Apparently a lot of them are funny, even if I don’t intend for them to be. If I feel myself getting really excited about something I just openly show it, even if it’s small. Like “omg this song is on my playlist and I haven’t heard anyone mention it before, but they are playing it out loud, how cool is that? This is what it must have felt like when the radio chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:35 PM
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If they have a put together alternate style I don’t know what to do with myself. It’s really hot
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:11 PM
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In my experience a lot of the guys who say I’m “out of their league” or that they usually don’t get any attention from girls are way creepier. I try not to judge in advance, but it always goes the same way. We start sleeping together and they will: try to move things way to fast and not listen when I tell them to slow down act all jealous and immature accusing me of seeing others (even when we have both agreed we’re just fwb and non exclusive) objectify me and brag to their friends about how coo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:08 PM
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I’m a bit out of the ordinary as I am an extremely sexually active woman who likes to have casual hook ups on a regular basis. For me, there’s not really anyone who’s natural features are too ugly to me. But a bad clothing style really puts me off. For me it’s a lot more about chemistry. If I have a naturally flowing conversation with someone I will probably have pretty good sex with them. If it’s awkward or I don’t find them interesting I would have to be really horny with no other options than…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:56 PM
1

So maybe it’s about something different than looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:42 PM
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You are literally describing the female fantasy?? A gothic man who looks a little scary, but will do art and crafts with me, show me cool crystals and then get into his onesie at night for cuddle time? Yes I want that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:26 PM
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Women and men store fat differently and have different levels of metabolism. Since we operate on entirely different hormone systems we gain and lose weight in different patterns. It is harder for women to lose weight than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:51 AM
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This is also a trend if you look into queer people. Because men care so much about looks and weight gay men are statistically more likely to suffer from an eating disorder than straight men. On the other hand, lesbians tend to have a better body image than straight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:44 AM
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I wish I hadn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 11:15 PM
1

Sex isn’t a resource at all? It’s an act between two people. Calling it a resource is like calling massages or swing dancing a resource. And how does it run out? Do people have a set amount of sexual interactions they can perform until they “run out”?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:04 PM
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I’m telling you I would choose celibacy forever over the creepy predatory behavior I receive from guys. If men would just leave me alone I wouldn’t mind never having sex or romantic relationships until I die.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 11:23 AM
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Yes. But when I experience romantic attraction I naturally start romanticizing the looks of the people I’m attracted to. The bad haircut is suddenly cute and dorky. If they were a little fat they are all of a sudden the perfect cuddler and shaped like a teddy bear. And before I know it they are the hottest person in the world because everything about them is attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 11:15 AM
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Because I have met people I didn’t think was hot, and then after talking to them I thought they were really hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 10:10 AM
1

All women are fetishized by men for merely being a woman. But that doesn’t translate into someone wanting to be with you, it usually just means they want to fuck you once for the experience
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 10:08 AM
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Assuming that everyone else than you has it better with no experience, research or knowledge is a victim complex
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 10:05 AM
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Very interesting take. Even though I think I disagree with some of your descriptions of women the “it’s like a tv with only shitty channels” was actually pretty spot on for me and I might start saying that. I’m bisexual and I don’t really find women hard to please at all personally. I usually just talk to them respectfully, make jokes, tell them how beautiful I think they are in a respectful way and wait until I know they are comfortable to make a move. Men on the other hand can be really frustr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:46 PM
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If I threw out examples I would break the rule regarding creating a witch hunt against some users. I don’t want to vilify a person or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:20 PM
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I would trade it back. I’m serious. I’m a highly sexual person, but I would be celibate and have no romantic interactions for the rest of my life if that meant men would leave me alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:57 PM
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It’s a bit of both. It’s a lot of random people and 2-3 fwb. I do get attached to my fwb in a friend way. I do hang out with them in non-sexual ways and keep up with what’s going on in their lives. They are truly my friends. But I don’t get attached to them romantically because that’s not what I want, and I know it’s not. The idea of being in a relationship with any of them make me genuinely stressed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:47 PM
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I am trying to point out the difference between generalizations and accusations of lying since you seem to have them confused. The reason this post focuses on women is because I see it happen more in that direction on this forum and wanted to address that specifically. But yes, as the title says we shouldn’t accuse everyone of lying on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:45 AM
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Nah. I still have plenty of one night stands and no trouble finding someone sexually attractive out of nowhere. But the question was about dating, not sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:28 AM
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Men in real life too. Sometimes I will say this guy did this and they will just say “no he didn’t”. One time a guy refused to believe another guy (that he barely knew) had acted creepy towards me. He kept insisting I was lying until the guy’s friend chimed in and said “no he was. He had to apologize, it was a whole thing”. Then he would believe it. Not when I said it, not when my female friends said they witnessed it. But when a guy said it was true it was
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:26 AM
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I would love to see the statistics on that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:23 AM
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There was actually a study that showed that average looking women get more creepy messages and behavior. Read it years ago, if you are interested I can try and see if I can find it:). But yeah where you are does effect tinder a lot, and not all creepy messages are the first one, some are message 5-6 for me personally. Just because your girlfriend lied doesn’t mean “all women lie”. Don’t paint us all in the same light. Yes! Someone’s personal experience is not always representative of how things …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:21 AM
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It’s better to be open about your insecurities than to bully others. Of course, staying silent is also an option:)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:11 AM
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What do you think the word lived experience means? An experience= something that happened to you, something you witnessed, something you interacted with, etc. I could even say I experienced witnessing a robbery without having experienced a robbery. A lived experience= your experience living thorough an identity or event. Experience with cancer could be your mom having it, lived experience with cancer is specifically you having it. I have lived experience as a woman. Men have experience with wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:09 AM
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Well this post is mainly about how a woman can say “this thing happened to me” and men will respond with “no it didn’t”. It’s not about generalizations about genders like “all men do this” or “all women do that”.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:05 AM
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Me: puts out a specific criticism of a behavior present in this sub You: these women always vaguely blaming “the patriarchy”. I don’t even know what I do wrong. Guess I’m just a guy😔
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:59 AM
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Yeah, but the point is that if I could change them back I would
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:57 AM
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Yeah. I’m a communist so I “shockingly” don’t find men with a lot of money sexy, wearing a suit doesn’t turn me on and wearing a military uniform in a NATO country is a guarantee I won’t sleep with you. But if you ask the guys in this sub, I’m actually a gold digger looking for someone who’s a millionaire so I don’t have to work at all. Preferably an ex soldier of course🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:57 AM
1

Do men with different body types can be perceived as attractive depending on how they market themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:50 AM
1

I don’t really think anyone “should” do that, I think everyone has to figure out for themselves and if they feel like they should then they should
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:46 AM
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No, but I like to try. It’s also funny to get insane replies to normal responses
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:07 AM
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My friends get to see different sides of me as friends usually do. While on this sub I write about things related to the sub. What sob story? You brought up catcalling as a topic and I expanded on it. I didn’t mention anything about if I had experienced it or not (which I have).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:53 PM
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I do only casual sex and no romance because I have given up on finding men that could enrich my life through dating. But if I was looking for a relationship I would still have casual sex while looking. And if no one wanted to do casual sex with me I would just buy a dildo and remain single. When it comes to the philosophy of hook up culture I’m not sure what you mean by that. But I do believe that sex and romance can be separate and can be connected depending on the person and situation. Sometim…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:48 PM
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Most men who catcall do it when the woman is the only person in sight and feel the most vulnerable. That’s why you probably don’t see it as much. And I do in fact hang out with my friends as well as having an online presence
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:38 PM
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I have opted out of dating men completely as for now. Have barely had any good experiences with men, and the good experiences are far and few in between. I’m not interested in finding shit men that I can try to fix or settle for someone who makes my life worse than before just because “you should find a partner”. Too many men love bomb so after investing a lot of time and feelings I’m stuck with a piece of shit with good acting skills instead of a partner that actually respects me. And it’s real…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:35 PM
1

Great answer. You summed it up really well
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:18 PM
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I’m not a middle aged married woman. I’m a single by choice 20-something college student. And I’m not addressing if people care about what women write on this sub, I’m addressing how often guys here refuse to believe what women are writing about their own lives. However, if you “don’t care” why are you on a debate forum?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:15 PM
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I don’t shave anything and I get sexually harassed when I dress like shit also. I am very emotionally attached to my hair, so I don’t want to cut it, but I usually tuck it under my shirt or into a hoodie when out. It doesn’t help
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:10 PM
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The misogyny isn’t imaginary. Many men do slut shame. And I wrote that the reason this is commonly brought up is because a lot of men say things like that. As in, that’s the setting in which this rhetoric is brought up the most and where the argument originally stems from. If men openly say “I want this because I’m insecure” why would women counter that with “you’re just insecure”? That doesn’t make any sense. Do some women hate that men set standards they don’t agree with? Absolutely. Both gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:07 PM
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That’s not what I’m critiquing. It’s fine to point out that someone’s personal experience isn’t representative for most of the population. But people on this sub will read about a woman experiencing harassment or getting cheated on and flat out accuse her of misrepresenting the story, over exaggerating or lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:56 PM
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A couple things: It is completely fine to decide that a low amount of former sex partners is a criteria for who you do and do not want to date. I firmly believe everyone should be allowed to decide who they want to date based on whatever criteria they want. The reason this gets brought up so often is that instead of saying “I feel really insecure about my sexual performance and want someone at a beginner level like me so we can figure it out together” a lot of guys will try to put women with hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:51 PM
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It was more an example of how men aren’t the best judges of what women find attractive. The other examples address the claim that skinny boys should “hit the gym” for women to find them attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:36 PM
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They are the truth? They might not be representative for most people, and therefore shouldn’t be held above statistics. But they can be a valuable insight to understand someone else’s position But just because someone’s lived experience isn’t aligned with what’s common or what you believe to be true, does not mean that it isn’t real or true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:29 PM
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I of course experience it mostly in my direction and have the impression that it happens more directed at the women in this sub. But it’s bad regardless. This is a debate forum and you can’t debate someone if your preconceived notion is that everything they say is a lie without a real reason to think that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:20 PM
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That’s sort of what I’m pointing out. A lot of guys here will claim common experiences by women are exaggerated or not true. And you have to wonder what makes them think it’s so unbelievable?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:16 PM
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A lived experience is a common expression used when someone wants to emphasize that they are speaking on something that they have lived through as opposed to someone’s experience interacting with said thing. I can say that “in my experience most refugees do x, y and z, based on the immigrants I have talked to”. Then someone can say “in my lived experience as an immigrant I did a, b and c and I don’t know anyone who did x, y and z”. Literally Google the expression
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:12 PM
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I don’t doubt it goes both ways, but I see it more directed at women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:05 PM
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I understand people shouldn’t believe everything they read on the internet. But not everything that’s being questioned or out right denied is unbelievable. And it’s really unhealthy for a forum dedicated to “hearing both sides” and “challenging each other’s beliefs” to consist of people who refuse to believe anything people say that contradicts their opinions. I also have things I want to share, but can’t because I know I will get comments after comments insisting it’s not true. I get those on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:04 PM
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I assumed any reasonable reader would get what I meant, especially when provided with an example
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:55 PM
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A lived experience is something that happened to you personally. Like if I worked as a doctor, my stories from the hospital is my “lived experience as a doctor”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:54 PM
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But it could be! And if all the female comments are “this happens to me frequently” and not a single one says “never happened to me” doesn’t that tell you that it might be more common than you think, and it could be worth looking into?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:45 PM
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I obviously didn’t mean unhinged things😂 Like you shouldn’t say “mmm I love that you cut your toenails at a reasonable length”.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:41 PM
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When I first tried doing makeup for parties it looked like complete shit. Still got harassed. I just got harassed by some guys and mocked by others
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:40 PM
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I really like it when men compliment things I have control over. Nice tits = creepy, very sexual, wtf am I even supposed to say to that? I love your hair = thanks I was wondering how I should put it up, or if I should put it up at all. But this is what I ended up with. Nice to know I made a good choice
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:31 PM
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If you read a comment further up I don’t do that regularly, only for parties. And I still get harassed with my bare face.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:09 PM
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So you are using her to make you feel better about yourself? You sound like a pretty bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:31 PM
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Why do you keep baiting her if you’re not interested? Just cancel permanently wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:26 PM
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Yeah if you ask out a woman you actually know??? Why would you ask your door dash delivery?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:21 PM
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I never thought men found a degree to be hot. I don’t think I have ever heard a woman mention degrees when we discuss what men find attractive. Where is this coming from?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:19 PM
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OP talks about how “skinny boys” aren’t seen as attractive and you should “hit the gym”. The people I listed as examples are skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:17 PM
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It’s called being on guard. When I get sexually harassed on a daily basis, I spend every moment outside looking for danger. Being prepared. A lot of (if not most) women do. And again, the fantasy would be almost no one noticing me. If I could just go through a regular week without a single guy threatening my safety I would be so grateful. My biggest fantasy in life is to bring a picnic blanket to a park during night, lay down and look at the stars alone and not for a single second have to worry …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:15 PM
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I did care about being liked when I was 11. It does hurt when someone says a guy should ask you and he pretends to throw up and say he would rather die. I wrote many diary entries about how I wished just one guy would like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:09 PM
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Sometimes it’s just silly. If you can’t tell that my eyes lids don’t naturally have a black line spurting out of them or that my lip isn’t naturally cherry red, that’s kinda on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:06 PM
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How would I go about uglyfying myself exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:02 PM
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Also a lot of men don’t know the difference between makeup and no makeup. They will wrongly assume women with light makeup isn’t wearing any makeup and despite me only wearing artistic makeup for parties men often insist I’m secretly wearing makeup without telling them. Like sir, if my face looks the exact same every day regardless of time, activity and weather that’s just my face.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:13 PM
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Yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:56 PM
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I think a lot of men wrongly assume we don’t know what “radio silence” is like. Up until I was 12-13 I wasn’t really “hot enough” to harass, stalk, assault etc. I also wasn’t liked by anyone in my class and no one had ever showed any interest in me. I felt ugly and unlovable. It sucked. But it will NEVER be worse than the treatment I have received by the firing squad of dicks. It is a constant harassment that never stops, never gives you a break and that you have to spend every living moment out…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:45 PM
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Men often assume that the body they are chasing after or envy is the the same body women find the most attractive. But that’s not based in reality. When they were casting for the office the male creator chose the actor for Jim because he thought he looked goofy. He became surprised when he realized a big portion of the women in the audience were swooning over him and talking about how hot they thought he was. Logan Paul considered rebranding himself as a pop star, but was unsuccessful due to bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:28 PM
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I also mainly read erotica and even if I get a description I usually just skip it. It doesn’t do anything for me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:03 PM
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Short men might struggle more, but tall women also struggle more. It’s more a reflection of how gender roles have carried into attractiveness. Women love emo men too! It’s a common topic of discussion that women fawn over men they perceive as “dark” or “mysterious”. Everyone who is overweight are seen “out of shape”. With a couple of people romanticizing it. Words like “dad bod” or “like a teddy bear” are just as commonly heard from women in regards to men, as “curvy” is used by men in regards t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:59 PM
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If I met person two I would really want to have sex with them because their personality would make me think they are hot. When you really like someone you put on rose tinted glasses and they become way more attractive to you. They might be a 5 to most people, but if they want to binge Daria, drink some Moscow mules and can hold an interesting discussion about philosophy and politics with me they are at least an 8. I’ve dated guys who I originally didn’t find hot, then after chatting started thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:31 PM
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I’m genuinely trying to understand the argument. I’m just confused. It doesn’t really make any sense to me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:00 PM
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Dating would be easier for women. Guys wouldn’t come up with thousands of attempts to get me on a regular basis just for it to not work out. I could actually just relax and talk to the men who had picked me out based on mutual interest and not “she has a vagina and all women are the same”. It would be way easier to make a connection to a guy who was only into me, or me and a couple others, and just take it from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:33 AM
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I think in an ideal world we could all discuss how a potential relationship would look and be honest with each other. It would save a lot of time and broken feelings, and when everyone knows what to expect from each other there would also be less fights. I used to opt for this model myself. Sitting down with people and having an “if we got together” conversation. But as I got older I realized we don’t live in a world that allows for this. Men who want to date me try to guess what answers I want …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:25 AM
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Yeah I read the book LGBT statistics (which disappointingly mostly focused on the US), and there were a lot of statistics that show that gay men have more sex, single or in a relationship, than anyone else. The single life of a gay man includes a lot of casual sex. The single life of a lesbian doesn’t. So it would make a lot of sense for queer women to pair up faster than queer men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:13 AM
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If you try reading it again you can see that there’s valid criticism of the research. If you disagree with that criticism you can make a counter argument. You know, since this is a debate forum
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:08 AM
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Yeah. I got to choose what type of math class I wanted to take in high school and I picked statistical math where we gathered data, worked on predictions and analyzed findings. A bunch of people told me “you are good at math, why did you pick the easy class? Come on do physics or something”. The more time I spend on Reddit the happier I am that I can actually read and comprehend statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:06 AM
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I’m a bit confused here. If there’s a set number of “available sex”, which I assume is the sex available to people outside relationships, how is Chad “getting” almost all of it? Sex isn’t like a physical resource you can run out of, it is an action performed between two (or more) people. So Chad either has sex with women who want to get into a relationship with him, or women who enjoy multiple one night stands. Maybe a mix of both. The women looking to be with him are only available to men they …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:02 AM
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No. I actually joke with my other bi friends that whenever we date men we have to lower our standards all the way to hell. But when we date women we can actually expect things from our partners. However, it doesn’t really matter. Because I’m the one dating so what I perceive and how I feel is what matters the most
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:34 AM
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Or I can just opt out
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:31 AM
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That’s my point. Such a massive amount of guys I talk to turn out to be sexist in one way or another so I just don’t bother dating men at all. I find it to be a waste of time
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:27 PM
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Uhm ok? What did you mean when you said it was malfunctioning?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:20 PM
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What is a “woman’s radar”?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:15 PM
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I pretty much have. I have casual sex with men and that’s it. Until I meet a man that can actually affect my life more positively than negatively I will not be entering a relationship with any men. I’m tired of trying to teach other adults to have empathy and basic human decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:35 PM
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I’m bisexual. I’ve dated both men and women. There’s more awful men then awful women on the dating market
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 07:54 PM
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I think the idea that more options is easier is extremely flawed. Because men aren’t looking at what our “options” are. Many of the guys I talk to are sexist, objectify me, expect me to be a second mom or expect me to let go of all my hobbies and interests to only do the activities they like. The amount of men that are actually of interest to me are very few. And they are nearly impossible to find because so many men lie to me about what they want, think and like to trick me into dating them on …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 07:20 PM
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Yeah but that’s just how it is and always have been
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 06:32 PM
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Personally I don’t think there’s such a thing as “too high standards” when it comes to dating. Everyone should be allowed to decide who they want to be with on any merit they want. It’s your body and your life and you can say no for whatever reason. Anything at all. I don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 06:27 PM
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What I am critiquing here is making up statistics instead of just honestly saying that it’s an opinion. Instead of saying “80% of women only want to date attractive men and that’s a fact” they could say “I think most women go for more attractive men”. But what a lot of people are doing in these spaces is pretending that an opinion they have is actually a fact, and that researchers have come to the same conclusion as them. There’s nothing wrong with using anecdotes, personal experiences and your …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 01:55 PM
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And slut shaming has an insane amount of real life consequences that effect women badly too. You just don’t care because it doesn’t cater to your feelings and you want to engage in it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:29 AM
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No. That is literally what this woman and many others here are trying to tell you. Men slut shame regardless of if a woman actually has sex or not. And if she’s expected to just not care about bullying and harassment, then it’s pretty hypocritical for you to expect us to sympathize with you for being teased.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:28 AM
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A reoccurring theme in Incel discussions is that the numbers are made up, used incorrectly or taken out of context. They don’t really believe in any research that disproves what they are saying and believe that it’s all made up to be against them. I keep reading 80% of women do x thing or 10% of men get all the women etc. But if you ask for sources it’s usually “their experience” or “their observations”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:54 AM
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What do you think the word prude means?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:40 AM
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This entire post is about how “virgin shaming” is supposedly worse than slut-shaming on a debate forum. People are debating it in the comments. That’s literally the whole point
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:38 AM
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“It really shouldn’t get to you” Omg can you be more hypocritical? If people can just decide to not let things get to them your entire thread and arguments are meaningless. If you know virgin shaming is stupid then just don’t let that get to you. How about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:36 AM
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There’s a reason the line “if you don’t have sex with me I will just tell everyone you did” is so common
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:32 AM
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A couple thoughts: I don’t think shaming guys for being virgins affects them worse than slut shaming affects women. Women who are labeled as sluts often experience sexual harassment and assault because guys think they “deserve it” for their “behavior”. It has also affected court cases about rape, where guys face cero repercussions because the woman wore a thong or made out with someone and therefore “must have wanted it”. There’s actual scientific research that proves that when people think of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:28 AM
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I wouldn’t. I would totally be friends with someone who has kids and help them set up dates with others. However, I am pretty set on being child free and do not want to parent/ take care of a child. Being with someone who has a child kinda pushes me into a motherly role that I’m not comfortable with
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 09:06 AM
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It is also; exactly why most men are single too, regardless of looks. You are so close to the point
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:46 PM
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Yeah I have plenty of men who want to date me, but I’m voluntarily single because I’m at a point in life where I want to be my own first priority. If I remain single forever and get a bunch of cats it would be really cool and I think I would be pretty happy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:44 PM
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I didn’t think he was ugly at all, cause when I look at him my heart skips a little and I just want to hug and kiss him. But a lot of others did think so and asked me why we were dating since I’m very attractive. It went pretty well except his friends often thought I had ulterior motives. Which I don’t. I really liked him and he really liked me. We had to break it of because I was and still am dealing with a lot of emotional trauma from past relationships and just wasn’t ready to have that much …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:25 PM
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The point is; if no one will treat me nicely and respectfully at all I will go for the one I’m the most sexually attracted to since there’s nothing else to go on
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:51 AM
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This is awful. No one regardless of gender should seek out people in poorer countries solely because they are more dependent on them and willing to look past their flaws as a result. That’s exploitation
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 11:11 AM
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I’m not going to catfish people??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:01 AM
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It’s about honesty. I see so many men imply or out right say they are romantically interested in a woman and are considering a relationship, only to reveal it was all a lie once they get sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 02:40 PM
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I think it’s made up to excuse abusive behavior from men. “He doesn’t understand why he hurt you because men are simple creatures” when you know very well that the exact same thing done towards him would have him crying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:45 AM
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The mere idea of being in a relationship at all makes me so stressed that I want to throw up and start reliving things my ex did to me. It’s been over 3 years and I can’t even picture myself dating within the next 5 years
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:43 AM
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I don’t think they are equal. Because in my experience the men getting friend zoned are told they are only seen as friends. The women getting sex zoned rarely get any honesty at all and men will be down right insulted if you point out that they view you as a sex object
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 04:09 PM
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In my experience it’s not 10-15% it’s more like 60% are dangerous in one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 04:02 PM
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Well the things you are siting are pseudoscience and do seem to come from sexist sources. Where did you hear these things? On the news or through an echo chamber algorithm that picked up pre-existing opinions? I do think that even if we agree that everyone do deserves to have their own preferences and can say no to anyone for any reason, it is still fair to examine how outside influences affect our attractions. And as far as I am aware, I have only heard sexist men site things like pair bonding …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:28 AM
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My ex screamed in my face that I was “the worst girlfriend ever, because I could cheat on him with both men and women” because I wore a rainbow bracelet once. So I think for insecure men the answer is yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:45 AM
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I really don’t think it’s a big deal at all. Most people I know, including myself, have multiple friends of the opposite sex. I wouldn’t want to cut a friend I have had for years out of my life just because I was in a relationship/marriage. And you shouldn’t insist on your partner only hanging out with you. I have friends who share super weird and specific interests that I doubt a future partner would be into. And I don’t want to stop doing things I enjoy forever just because those hobbies inclu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:40 AM
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Do you have a link?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:58 PM
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Maybe, but I think watching porn on a daily basis affects your brain more than having a fling once
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 11:58 AM
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What is this based on? Like has there been any research or anything like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 11:54 AM
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I really don’t think that’s insulting at all??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:41 PM
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I’m so confused. Because I’m the bad guy if I don’t mention I have a boyfriend and if I do without the guy directly asking to fuck I’m the “sorry I have a boyfriend” meme. Like what am I supposed to do exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 04:42 PM
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I would get a little flattered and think “damn I’m still hot I guess”. And then I would find a non-awkward way to say I have a boyfriend. Like “wait let me just see if my boyfriend texted me” or “do you know any good pizza places, my boyfriend really wants pizza tonight”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 08:06 PM
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Women are also expected to do both. We are very much expected to work a full time job and not just stay at home
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 04:33 PM
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I think women are more “forgiving” of having had multiple sex partners because most women don’t view the men in their life as someone to be conquered. The idea of wanting a virgin is wanting someone “untouched”, “pure” and “for you only”. As the media and culture has portrayed women as a hard to get goal that will only give up their virginity to “the right man”. But women don’t view men as someone to be conquered. While we might want our partners to be as experienced as us, we don’t need them to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 09:29 AM
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This is a debate forum made to exchange opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:50 PM
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Then why did a bunch of guys make a forum to sit around and complain that their life is worthless without sex? Like I agree. You don’t need us. Leave us alone
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 08:19 AM
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I live in Scandinavia and that’s not a normal and regular complaint here. But good try
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 08:16 AM
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I think it stems from people waiting longer to get into serious relationships and marriage than before. People in relationships have more sex than single people. So if women and men started dating as much as before, men would have more sex. But dating men is not beneficial to women. If a woman marries a man she: - has a lower life expectancy has worse mental health has worse physical health has less relaxation time makes less money While every single one of those statistics are the opposite for …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 01:44 PM
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I don’t want children and nothing can make me change my mind. I would honestly rather die than give birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 01:34 PM
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