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DebateWilling-Chapter-7382/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:35 PM
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For sure, but the hate on those places is palpable towards men if you read what they say and can read between the lines, plus the unfair negative bias towards men in such places.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:10 PM
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Sounds hot.. lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:54 PM
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Wouldn't that help you sort through shite men though? Since you probably wouldn't want to date such men anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 03:31 PM
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That can quite literally happen no matter who approached first
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 03:01 PM
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Omegabased.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:44 PM
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Guess we gotta agree to disagree then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:02 PM
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The most likely explanation is age gap relationships, no idea how you didn't mention that, compared to the way less likely things that could be happening, that you mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:59 AM
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This is obviously because age gap relationships, specifically, younger women dating older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:58 AM
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Well, I am sure there are a lot of biased people on both sides that couldn't admit such things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:14 PM
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I mean ya, obviously. That's the easiest bullet bite in my life lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:04 PM
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Very true
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:27 PM
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I dunno. I'm not red pill, but ya, that doesn't sound that different, moreso more harsh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:27 PM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:24 PM
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Hahaha foot fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:19 PM
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And what if that person is interested in their friends? I'd say let em shoot their shot, and if they turn him down, he has 2 options, stay friends, but more laid back, or drop the friendship. Either way, no one's forced to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:18 PM
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"extract from me without reciprocating" you do know that you don't have to stay in touch with family, if they are treating you like shit right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:15 PM
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How are you friends with them then, if they're so horrible lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:12 PM
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Then that is quite literally what someone in that scenario would accuse the other person of doing, that being going just for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:09 PM
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Cringe assigned girlfriend meme argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:56 PM
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Necessary to what extent? I'd say in any relationship (where both people aren't asexual) a good sex life is absolutely necessary. Op said something dumb in response to this "it's a basic human need like water and food", which obviously isn't true, but a better argument would be that intimacy or community would be a basic human need. The entitlement thing seems like a weird dig. No one is entitled to anything, so it's a weird thing to point out...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:54 AM
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Generally I'd agree, but you can't expect randos to risk their life for you, man or woman. Personally I'd help to beat up a retard for fun, but ya, don't expect this shit from randos.
/r/MensRights19/07/24 04:51 AM
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Sorry, but you can't expect others to risk their life over material possessions. I'd personally do it because beating up a retard who's in the wrong sounds fun, but you can't expect this shit from your average Joe.
/r/MensRights18/07/24 08:05 PM
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Well, you just gotta take an L on this one chief, because we live in a individualistic society, so this entitlement attitude is cringe in this context, especially if your life is on the line for something that probably isn't even worth that much, and not even close to a life no doubt.
/r/MensRights18/07/24 08:02 PM
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If you were to ask them, I am quite confident that they would be atleast a little weirded out(depending on the age gap and ages of the two.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:33 PM
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probably. theres a high likelihood for abuse in these situations, but its very hard to prevent. everyone is an adult in these relationships, and it doesnt help that many women like older guys, so they would be more sympathetic to them being asked out by older guys. best solution imo is education.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:28 PM
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thats probably 1-5% of the population TOPS, probably like 0,1%-1% though, but thats irrelevant, because thats an extreme position. id say the age gap take is way more common, and it doesnt even have to be voiced, i assume many people believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:17 PM
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casual sex or relationships, sure. otherwise, with no manipulation involved, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:05 PM
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casual sex or relationships, sure. otherwise, with no manipulation involved, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:05 PM
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most people use the internet, especially younger people, not exactly the best point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:04 PM
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obviously not, but we dont live in a utopia where everything is perfect. there will always be power imbalances.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:53 AM
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incorrect. a lot of people, especially on the internet, get very judgy whenever they find a relationship like this. if you havent seen it, i dunno man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:51 AM
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you sure? i believe, and op said something similar, that women usually like older guys, especially younger women. for whatever reason, be it maturity, having things that men their age dont, but i think this is fairly common. this is true. though a different issue is what kinds of guys seek out younger women, or maybe even the women seek out older guys, but if i had to guess, its probably more older guys seeking out younger women, but not by a lot. just saw this comment you made: "In any event, p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:49 AM
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Based OP. Coming back here a few days later and seeing this take is nice, I was wrong about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:49 AM
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dont want to do the meme argument, but i saw it in this same thread, so might aswell ask and see what you think of it. what do you think of this same attitude, but towards black people?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:22 PM
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I'd say it's sexist, ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:34 PM
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Technically you could date for sex, like many do on dating apps. Though I'd prefer someone to be explicit either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 04:49 AM
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I'd personally say both genders have a similar amount of people having high standards, so to me, these discussions always seem dumb xD
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:47 PM
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i dont understand these posts, or what purpose they serve...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:15 PM
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literally has admitted to trafficking in the past, along with other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:23 AM
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please dont tell me we will have to debate this nonsense for the next few weeks/months.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:03 AM
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Good thing you bring up the past, because alot of people make this mistake when they think about these things. Just because we have been doing certain things for a long time, doesn't mean it's natural. As for what women want, I don't really see why it would be natural. It seems that as animals become smarter/more sophisticated, the more of their behaviors are learned, rather than natural. For example, would you call cats natural hunters? I'd say no. Cats learn how to hunt via "playfighting" (mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 06:24 PM
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Not your thread in particular, just all of the stuff I've seen around dating apps leads me to believe it is more damaging than the benefits you gain. And the high chance that you can see the other gender as "bad" afterwards, or just generally become a little more extreme in your beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:40 PM
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Of course nature has some part in our behavior, but I think the majority of it is nurture, as in, learned behaviors. We are smarter than our nature, and like I said, it doesn't play as big of a role as you think it does. And besides, the naturalist argument can go down a slippery slope very quickly, if we follow it to it's conclusion. But hey, if you want to be a slave to your primal urges, that's fine. As for the other thing, I think both your mindset, and OP's mindset is kind of flawed. I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:35 PM
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The actual advice is for OP to delete his dating app/s, it's clearly ruining his mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:16 PM
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That's why no contact and the block button exists, so you can get these trash people out of your life, and actually find someone who is good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:14 PM
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THIS. Why chase someone who isn't interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:12 PM
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Why not just get a normal, equal relationship (or in this case, dates), not these weird domination games where you need to "follow or lead"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:11 PM
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The actual advice is to not chase people who aren't interested in you, and not participate in people's "chase me" games. And of course the most important advice: don't use dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:08 PM
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That's what the op claims, but I don't think that's true. Like I said, this is usually said as a counter to someone who is saying that they will be forever alone because they are ugly. I don't think it's a good idea to settle, you will just end up miserable in that relationship. If you do use dating apps, I can see why looks can be one of the most important thing in getting a relationship. Though chasing dumb people is a dumb idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 12:35 PM
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i mean it can be a good idea to step away from dating, if you feel like it is draining or damaging your mental health, same for adaptation, as long as you do it for yourself firstly, and only for others if you want to make them happy. and remember to not try of doing it all at once, as long as you do something small every day, like brushing your teeth, it will eventually build up to something better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:51 AM
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if someone wants you only because you earn 6 figures (or doesnt if you dont), you probably dont want that person as your partner anyway. it would be a fake relationship anyway. and id say its better to let them stay in their delusion unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:43 AM
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im not saying just wait around, i said in my original comment there are some things you can do to, however small they are. it doesnt have to be absurd effort, but you just need to see what you are doing wrong and if you have the experience or not. or for example not using dating apps could help you find serious partners in other areas and not ruin your mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:17 AM
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I'm not dismissing their problems, nor am I saying it's easy. I know this better than many people on this sub, i think. Just saying that you don't need to obsess over this problem too much, it will most likely come with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:06 AM
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this example is brought up whenever people are saying how unattractive they are, and they cant get a girlfriend. its saying that you can get a girlfriend too, no matter what you look like (mostly). i personally think anyone can pull a GF, and focusing just on looks may be a way for you to ignore other more serious problems that could be going on. most people will get a partner, given enough time. and even if you suspect that it is because of looks, there are simple things anyone can analyze abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 08:42 AM
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Well, I guess that's dating apps for ya!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 04:35 AM
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Very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:52 PM
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On dating apps? Sure. But imo you shouldn't be trying to look for anything serious from dating apps, they kind of are designed to be more for hookups. And the fact that all this shit from dating apps can ruin your mental health. Also why are you on dating apps when you have a boyfriend lmao. I know it's for an experiment, but you'd think that you would be happy if you have a good partner and not care that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:45 PM
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True, anyone with a little bit of a working brain wouldn't talk about that with others IRL, much less debate it. But I think it can influence enough people's minds to some extent. "that may be related to the fact that I don't hang around people who spend most of their lives on their cell phones" - based.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:40 PM
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Careful. It isn't the 2000s when very little people are on the internet. Nowadays a lot of people are influenced by info on the internet, and it's easy to see the support these things sometimes get, when they blow up (a good example being the dumb bear debate).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:32 PM
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How passive are these women? Preferably OP can specify which woman is or isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:50 AM
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I think this take is born of a confusion, mostly from people who don't understand what they are talking about, but are right on some fundamental level. The thing you are confusing is companionship with sex. And for companionship, there is a far better argument for this than sex, though I wouldn't say it is as important as you say other people think it is. I assume most people can get companionship, though if you don't get it, you are out of luck, and there isn't much you can do, just hope it com…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 05:26 AM
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This will be my last reply, but I'll just reiterate that I don't think that was his intention, nor do I see a way it could be that. There is no steelman argument for you I can think of, and I usually can understand the other side in some way usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:01 AM
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I guess it could be an American thing, but from where I'm from, most people don't jerk it to girls they are chatting with, myself included of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:52 PM
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why put chat in quotations? my english is pretty good, and i didnt read a different meaning behind his words, unless i dont know of missing context. from the outside she seems schzio honestly...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:08 PM
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Barking is still possible, k'know sweetie 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:23 PM
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Maybe you should be barked at - just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:54 PM
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"If a man is going to get upset over not getting sex to the point of suggesting slitting the bill" I think the commenter suggested splitting the bill incase it doesn't work out, not that it's a cause of not getting sex, which I imagine wouldn't happen on the first date anyway if you aren't using dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:53 PM
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He asked what are her fav topics to chat about, and she responded with "I'm a private person, I don't chat about private things." I have no idea where you are pulling that sexual chat thing from. She has a Delusional response and it's worse than I thought it would be. And again, if you don't want to talk to someone, block em or ghost, it's that easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:25 PM
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No idea what this story is about, nor have I seen it, but if you don't want to talk to someone, ghost or block them. From the sound of it she has said some pretty dumb things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:07 PM
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OP just seems to be describing confidence and not acting weird on the first date lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:27 AM
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True, but I was moreso talking about the online side, though either way you can milk them for their money and have enough for some years, if not more if you're lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:39 AM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:20 AM
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Less stress to worry about depending on how things go though. If I had the option, I'd at least try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:13 AM
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This is true, different people have different things that they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 06:45 PM
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Bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:11 AM
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Because I don't think changing the conversation will fix anything. This will still keep happening sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:19 PM
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Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:41 PM
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So I guess there is no solution under our current culture. And don't forget there are a lot of women who like older folks, so it isn't entirely creepy old men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:40 PM
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It isn't easy to convince someone always that they are making a bad decision, especially when it comes to younger people. Trust me, I've tried, especially relating to this topic. I don't think there's much you can do as things currently stand. And the fact that women prefer older men a lot of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:29 PM
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in their teens? if we are talking about places where the age of consent is 16, sure, but im pretty sure anyone who is in the age range of 18-25, we call them young adults, though that kind of is semantic. anyways. i agree it is a little sus, but what should we do if we see a young adult and someone way older dating? or rather, what are you suggesting we should do?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:01 PM
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The adult point he is making is about them being able to date whoever they want as long as they are an adult, and them being able to make that decision. but ya, it doesn't mean that their possible choices will all be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:39 PM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:21 PM
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"They see themselves in her and are defensive." this happens more than people realize too, and sometimes they end up defending dumb things because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:12 PM
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"some women" - "most men" most people do this regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:51 AM
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Agree, especially with the first paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 03:34 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 03:32 PM
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I just think that most people aren't malicious and if they have a healthy relationship, they wouldn't do this. i have a hard time believing that 50% of people cheat or are monkey branching. maybe a better argument is that if those people had a way better option that was willing to be in a relationship (compatibility, looks and personality wise), they would MAYBE dump their current partner, but i imagine that would have to be a significant improvement from their current partner, like from a 4 or …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:21 AM
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break ups and cheating are two different things. cheating can lead to breaking up, not all breakups are because of cheating. and how much is "most people? 50%? 80%? 30%?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:57 AM
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all men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:55 AM
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in the example you provided, it seems like there could be already some factors to the relationship failing in the future anyways. and like u/TermAggravating8043 said, most people don't do it anyway to various reasons, and even if they had the ability to do it, if you already are in a good relationship, it is pretty useless to do it. there are people on both sides that would do this (probably in similar amounts), but those people aren't the ones you would want to date anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:54 AM
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agree. men have been mostly stagnant for quite some time, socially and culturally, while women in the developed world have been progressing very quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:20 AM
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this already sometimes happens partly. as in, keeping a desperate guy around as a second option (mostly as a friend), and the woman making vague statements whenever the topic of relationship comes up. basically good enough for a potential relationship, but looking for better options at the same time. (this happens the other way around too sometimes, but the topic is around men).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:10 AM
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and you could lie too, for example, most guys wouldn't go further if you said you have a boyfriend, even if you don't have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:59 AM
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It probably is, but oftentimes it is less explicit, and you said so yourself, that guys will need to read between the lines, and that is what I'm arguing against.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:36 AM
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another one with the self esteem argument. in what way is this an issue of self esteem? you seem to be claiming that being pushy shows a lack of self esteem, but that will happen if you are passive and not explicit. this happens because many women aren't able to say no explicitly and clearly. I can even go a step further and say that being passive could be a sign of self esteem issues, since you aren't able to assert yourself, or are scared to do so / have a lack of confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:31 AM
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"aggressively pursue men like a loser woman" because you are a loser woman, if you are that passive. though I guess you are in luck, because a lot of guys like subservient women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:50 PM
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oh that's fair and totally understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:44 PM
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and on top of that, if a guy is going to get violent because of a rejection, I don't think any sugar coating is going to help you. most guys will either move on, or if you aren't explicit and they didn't understand, keep pushing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:31 PM
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to be fair, that is a low portion of the male population, and the fact that there's a decent chance you would already know the guy (though this doesn't count for cold approaching). "because adults should have some self respect and walk away if their target isn’t enthusiastic and excited to spend time with them." - there are many guys who cant read social cues that well, and most men feel the need to push cause "eventually she will say yes". im not defending how men act, but in a way, you are per…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:49 PM
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"If it isn't an enthusiastic yes, it's a no." - that's fine if you think that, but that doesn't change our dating culture. guys will still be pushy, and it seems like you specifically will still be passive, and other women too, which gets us nowhere, and these things will keep happening. why not just say no explicitly? do you like the attention when a guy is chasing you? or for some other reason? "Geez have some pride and a sense of self-worth." - in what way is this about pride and self worth?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:30 PM
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this is an ignorant take. our culture encourages men to be pushy, and for women to be passive. "Many of us feel bad about turning down a guy, especially if he is a friend, and we know he is a good egg. We want to let you down as gently as possible." - this is exactly what I'm talking about - you shouldn't care about their ego or how they feel. and that means turning them down EXPLICITLY and that they will know without a doubt, otherwise you are just perpetuating this culture. and the same with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:02 PM
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to be fair, extremism or just any dumb content on the internet can inform peoples choices, especially now that more and more people are using the internet. there was also those news a while back of russia doing some sussy bot shit to divide men and women through extremism, but I don't remember much of it. and some of this stuff can sometimes get a lot of attention, so i don't really get how people are still making this argument, along with the algorithm argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:26 PM
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10000% yes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 06:26 PM
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that's the point of the analogy (I think), they will never be good *enough* workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 05:03 PM
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like one_ball_policy said, it would look pretty much the same (except the ask men to do everything part), though i guess OP is assuming men fully rule the world, which is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:37 PM
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yup, got a reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:05 PM
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was there less mental illness, or was it ignored or maybe stigmatized, or maybe even that we didn't really know that much about them/had false ideas? maybe it was all three?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:04 PM
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"I feel like this generation is much worse off than managing their emotions than previous generations, and they just aren't as rough and tough mentally as prior generations." would you call repressing your emotions as managing your emotions?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:39 PM
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"Men put a lot of value in sex. Everything men do is for sex." says who? the only people I've seen who are obsessed with sex are either young/immature, don't have much experience, or are just plain BPD, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:29 PM
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of course you don't need to prioritize them the same amount as they get older and older, and eventually it will cease as they go into their own life. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:35 PM
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true and based.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:21 PM
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about the childcare argument- the very same natural argument you give applies here. men can also raise kids or be stay at home dads, but I imagine you disagree, because its not "natural". that's why I say its cultural and societal, because it can be changed (not go to the extremes, just if a woman earns the same amount or more, that should be a consideration, unlike OP who suggests its not worth it to try to make it work.) I agree that society treats childcare like its a given. with the second a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:54 PM
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both parents should prioritize children, though in the case of single moms and their boyfriends, the child has to come first. I've seen way too many enabler single mothers (or even single parents) allowing their bfs or gfs to abuse their children. personally I wouldn't mind her to prioritize her children if I dated a single mom. "Why want a lover that doesn't take parenthood seriously?" you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 02:25 PM
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even if it was like that in the past, the world is very different now, and we are smarter than our "nature". there are women in todays world who could provide completely for themselves without needing a man, that's how different it is. though in the past I imagine that they did a fair amount of work, even equal amount in different areas, depending on what times we look at (don't quote me on this, this is my personal feeling). and don't get me started on the whole slippery slope that naturalist a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:42 PM
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"been that way" how do you know that? I'm pretty sure back then everyone needed to put in some kind of work, since we were probably living in small tribal villages, or even further back, when we were moving from place to place. id maybe even argue that everyone needed to put in equal amount of work just to survive. though it isn't really relevant, since even if it was "natural", we are smarter than simple animals, and could easily change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:50 PM
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surely that's not the only reason, right? for example, why do you think some people who earn 6 figures want someone who earns a similar amount, man or woman, or even sometimes more? though I guess this is relevant here : "the vast majority of women still need security at the most vulnerable part of their lives because society treats maternity like a joke" the fact that most don't earn that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:47 PM
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yup, i meant a worldwide thing, maybe there are some who arent, but i havent heard of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:11 PM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:09 AM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:08 AM
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It's not "nature" or "natural", it's just the way our culture and societal expectations are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:56 AM
1

then the human race would look *completely* differently, maybe we wouldn't even exist, since we would need to go through evolution that way probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:12 PM
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you're literally saying that we should take away people's right to vote because they disagree with you. if its that simple, it should be easy to debate them out of their position, no? if not we either end up with extremism, or taking away people's rights
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:54 PM
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It is literally stochastic terrorism. Just because they don't explicitly call for violence, doesn't mean that someone won't do acts of violence because of certain things they said, or the way they said them. That's the problem with extremism. And it makes the feminist movement look worse, and honestly, I don't see how men would want to support anything of that nature. "the only point you may have is the wikipedia article and even that is in question" Here - "It argues that men have ruined the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:42 AM
5

Dude actually doubled down on the dogwater point 💀 and you were making actually good arguments earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:11 AM
1

It is well known that women date older men a lot, on top of sometimes younger and many times their own age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:49 AM
2

So personal experience. That's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:00 PM
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"Generally, I think there are possibly more women in their early twenties who experience the itch to settle down and have families than men though." where do you get this from? I've pretty much seen most people regardless of gender not take relationships too seriously, especially on dating apps, early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:43 PM
5

True.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:21 PM
2

Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:02 PM
4

Do you mean if he gets rejected, and decides to do an action because of that rejection? Like for example a guy asks his girl friend out, and gets rejected, and then ends a friendship. Or even OP's example where a guy stopped walking his girl friend in the night after getting rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:54 PM
2

That's freedom for ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:43 PM
5

The point I'm making is that we don't know that most of the time, especially on the internet. Even if it is true, the person could just spin the story a little in their favor. The best we can do when someone asks advice on this topic, is give advice on all the facts we know, not just assume (though do call out the inconsistencies and other markers of bad faith-ery). Even if the person is acting in bad faith, it will help someone else in the future get good advice, someone who actually isn't acti…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:41 PM
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I guess it depends on the context, but people jump to the sex conclusions way too much. I actually remember that OP's example post, and most were shitting on the guy for wanting sex lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:36 PM
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People can easily fall for someone after sex, even though the intention originally wasn't a relationship. I think there are bad apples on both sides, demonizing the other gender because they were hurt from a previous situationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:00 PM
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Do you think it's just plain entitlement though? It could be that they just fall in love, since sex is known for making you fall for someone easier. What do you think about friends with benefits? Maybe a woman can fall for someone even if the intention wasn't originally a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:58 PM
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I've seen this claim made a lot, though I have no idea where it's coming from. I guess you could be right that even if the guy says it wasn't for sex, it could be, but why jump to the conclusion anyway, If we don't know that the guy has that intention?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:55 PM
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cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:28 PM
4

this is true. "because its nature" arguments are so dumb, and these phenomenon can be better explained by cultural context and social expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:25 PM
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based.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:19 PM
1

a similar thing actually happened to me, I have been in a very rough spot these past 4 years because of covid, and that probably made my porn consumption worse and made it unhealthy, but recently when I stepped back into the dating scene and had a good time with a girl, I couldn't even get going for quite some time with porn. its what i was talking about, that it stems from some root cause, for me that is boredom and most importantly loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:31 PM
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I don't think people with porn addiction watch it to relieve themselves, maybe initially they do, but afterwards, no, it isn't the main goal. Porn addiction probably stems from loneliness or boredom, or some other deep rooted mental health issue (probably from child abuse, etc.) I'd say it's more of a coping mechanism more than anything else. You don't need to try to directly solve porn addiction, just take the out the dominos that cause it, and most of it will go away. And you wouldn't be able …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:44 AM
2

true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 08:01 AM
1

why are you asking that? I imagine that yes, women want to date, I have seen it with my very own eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:01 AM
2

to be fair, a lot CAN be done, its just that it would involve most people, and no one really has direction, and we live in a individualistic society. I understand the doomer mindset, since most don't even recognize some problems, especially if they don't have first hand experience (like men's issues and women's issues, its hard for either side to realize what problems the other has), but surely you can think of something? lets say you suddenly turned into a dictator tomorrow(being able to do any…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:54 AM
1

and what should a woman do if she wants to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:27 AM
2

we should care, but we also have to take the next step and recognize how the problem is caused / what causes it, and see if we can do anything about it. where do you recognize the problem is from / its roots cause, and what do you think needs to be done?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:24 AM
7

and why do you think a guy wouldn't want to approach a girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:08 AM
7

"STILL convinced Men Are Trash" I imagine your ideas of patriarchy and feminism are probably off.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:58 PM
6

Tell us why, I'm curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:53 PM
4

Do share the reason, I'm all ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:53 PM
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you are redpill so i probably disagree with your positions, but damn do i love your line of questioning, and its wild how OP cant (yet) answer a simple question, and cant defend their claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:56 AM
1

yup, you were correct. i did some reading, and it was considered a hookup app.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:59 PM
1

Being cancelled has no basis in reality, since twitter isn't reality. When red pillers talk about false accusations ruining lives, they mean with police getting involved. And their argument is that even if the accusation gets proven false, their lives get ruined anyway, although I guess you can call it an "cancellation" of sorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:49 AM
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I think what you are describing are two different types of people. One who has an unhealthy attachment style, but is willing to compromise, and the other who has an unhealthy attachment style, but is petty/hypervigilant. This is my surface level analysis, but we can discuss further to go deeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:39 AM
2

I was in my early teens when dating apps started becoming a thing, so take what I say with a grain of salt, but I'm pretty sure they were originally marketed for finding partners, no? Only when more and more people joined them, was when most people on them started doing hookups commonly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:31 AM
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"on dating apps most women get a feel for a guy and if the guy gives off red flags, they bail if they aren't stupid." To be fair most people on dating apps are looking for hookups, and guys are especially known for being pushy, due to our chase chase chase culture that everyone reinforces. The guy could just act chill till the sex part, or remove the mask later. And I think that 'too' many women would not speak up at that point. And in a way, if they aren't willing to speak up, they need to step…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:08 AM
1

based erudite posting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:08 PM
3

that's fine and all, but you two created a child, and in this hypothetical it seems like there weren't taken enough precautions, so you both should probably take responsibility and care for the child. also a judge wont give a rats ass what you think, since I'm pretty sure that the child's needs are taken into consideration first.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:29 PM
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I agree with pretty much everything you say, but I have a potential problem with the last paragraph. Do you think it is truly that they are impressionable, or could there be a root cause for this problem? Maybe even for men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:01 AM
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lol. nice whataboutism. just because they arent as violent doesnt mean they dont hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 03:23 PM
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"I think women are a bit more careful online with how they are perceived while some men just completely remove the filter and unleash those emotions..." I think it is the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 03:22 PM
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sitcoms aren't reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 03:20 PM
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truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 03:19 PM
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The point I was making is that the relationship won't feel as romantic as the beginning of the relationship ALL the time, especially if you are living together. I was more talking about relationships from the point of them going on for longer than the "honeymoon" period, in the context of both genders or partners. I think both genders should put an equal amount of effort into the relationship, and that goes for seeking out partners too, women should ask men and men women out equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 03:57 PM
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I think what a lot of people miss in this conversation is that if the relationship gets off the ground, and you are ready to live together and see each other daily, it will look differently than the beginning. people often miss the effort their partner puts in to the daily challenges of life and forget that it wont be romance 24/7, and this goes for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:28 PM
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obviously, but that's why its such a boring hypothetical. though it would be fun to see if their answer would change if they were actually faced with this. in a way, its not answering a hypothetical in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:23 PM
2

this is true. the only thing that matters is what is in the best interests of the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:27 PM
1

well i am not saying that, because I'm not red pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 08:39 PM
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you know you can ask questions instead of assuming what my take is, right? you haven't really argued against my point past the initial response, just claiming "victim blaming" without explaining yourself. funny how you accused me of trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:46 PM
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you don't need to be considerate, but you DO need to have boundaries, fuck the guy. if you aren't willing to speak up when a guy is pushy, you need to step back from relationships and casual hookups for a time. if he is being pushy you can bet he will do something you do not, and most will take it as a sign to go further.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:44 PM
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actually no, if every women didn't say anything, we would see more harm in the world, so no, you would be adding to that greater harm even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:15 PM
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to be fair, it isn't really about the odds when you encounter a pushy guy, just say no or be more assertive of your boundaries, most wont go that far, try to minimize risk, and if you are scared that shit will get fucked, bring a pepper spray for unexpected situations, or a friend for casual ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:06 PM
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true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:06 PM
1

just my personal feeling, it depends on context though, id say its more or less likely depending on what the situation is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:05 PM
1

like i said, not gonna defend op's language. if he wants to make a bad argument just because he cant fully conceptualize it, that's on him. maybe later he will respond himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:58 PM
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dude, like i said, examples from that sub are extremes, which don't happen often, and most DA and SA happens in relationships anyway, you're arguably safer out in public from such attacks, and men attack other men more often than men on women. and i think some part of my advice holds anyway, like bringing pepper spray along. although i liked your example of wearing headphones out in public. thanks for giving the sub btw, ill check it out more tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:56 PM
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sure, we can go deeper. you are actually preventing harm by speaking up, and the chance that something will go wrong is low, that is what I meant. is it preventing potential greater harm? sure, but your response shouldn't be silence, that's like asking to be raped or SA'd (since you "haven't withdrawn" consent) and don't forget about trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:38 PM
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depends on the context, but this can happen more with casual relationships or hookups. you can know by working on yourself, but more importantly, you should also minimize the risk, have a friend around, don't go do guy's houses you just met, maybe even don't use dating apps, don't drink too much, have a pepper spray on you, etc. like i said, most guys wont escalate, so you should speak up, and that's the most important part.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:33 PM
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not really. I'm not blaming them, its just that you can speak up when a guy is a little pushy, most will back off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:30 PM
1

not defending OP's language, but I think he meant they could have done more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:28 PM
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If the guy is literally running at you, or holding you up with a gun, or holding you down, yeah, you're pretty much fucked and know he has bad intentions. If it's a hookup or a relationship, i am going with the 99% number.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:14 PM
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I just realized, it said hold themselves accountable, not that they are being held accountable. Basically it's the idea that they could have done more, like speaking up, which op talks about. But it is a little disingenuous to go straight to rape, since that's what OP excluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:12 PM
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And the victim blaming card, let's go. There are certain ways you can lower your chances of an accident, or when it's about to happen, make it so it isn't as bad/prevent it from happening, like for example, speaking up if a guy is a little pushy. If you can't give any actual advice, and just say "you can't do anything, get raped or SA'd lol", you are creating future rape and SA victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:08 PM
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Most times a scenario where a women is forced down and raped will happen very rarely, and op clarified that it's not relevant in those scenarios. I think it's accountability more in the sense that you aren't able to speak when the man isn't going to the extreme and forcing you down and fucking you or threatening you with a gun. Since most times the guy will probably just back off if she says no or speaks up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:03 PM
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It's not damned if you don't and damned if you do, but I'll give a better argument than the other commenter. You aren't responsible for someone else's ego, and anyone who says otherwise is being retarded. And isn't it the argument that people use when someone, specifically a woman, doesn't have the courage to speak up? The same goes for men holding you accountable for rejecting them, they are being retarded, and shouldn't be listened to. You can reject whoever you want, whenever you want, for an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:57 AM
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Most people won't. Probably like 99% of people won't, but it depends on context of course
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:47 AM
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Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:31 AM
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Exactly. That's why we encourage them to not pursue anything serious or casual until she's ready, worked on herself, you know the gist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:30 AM
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in most cases, most guys wont go that far, even some of the incel types. better to assert yourself and he will most likely back off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 09:54 AM
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"you don't have to assert yourself in any case" you shouldn't have to, correct, but we don't live in a perfect utopia unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 09:52 AM
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bullying is completely different, since there should be more people stepping in to help you, since they are present and choose to do nothing, plus the teachers and our public schools don't care about bullying. also take into account that a child has far less knowledge than a grown up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 09:51 AM
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based.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 08:06 AM
3

sounds fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 01:53 PM
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to be fair cold approaching seems a lot like dating apps, where all you know about the other person is their looks and whatever you can get from the brief interaction/conversation you will have with the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:56 PM
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exactly. this is what I was getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:34 AM
3

That's what they obviously say: "I'm a virgin, I want sex" but that's what they think, not what is actually true. they obviously want something deeper than that, and that's the best way that they can describe it. sex comes with a deep connection, or at least is oftentimes should. I imagine that's what they are looking for, the sex is just a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:18 AM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:39 AM
1

To be fair, you don't know that. Most narcs don't just randomly abuse random people or show their "dark side" or traits, especially covert narcs. Some actually seem like good people on the outside, like communal narcs, but to their victims, well, that's a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:21 AM
1

That does not address the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:18 AM
2

keep on coping. it is probably a thing, but not as big of a problem as you probably think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:49 PM
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probably true, but the point is, we need to drop these naturalistic arguments and ideas, and think of a better solution. we live in a different world now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:44 PM
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Id be down for some bussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:07 AM
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the point is you looking at all of the numbers, or thinking about it yourself, and coming to a conclusion. i originally posted this so people can stop with the braindead discussions, but yeah..
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:48 PM
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Any bear? For this hypothetical it's better to look at all of the bears in the world, and see how many of them are of species that can and will attack humans. Otherwise it's pretty useless to look at current stats of bear attacks, since many encounters aren't with those, and the fact that they don't happen often anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:43 AM
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fun times..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:36 AM
1

You're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:35 AM
0

Bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:33 AM
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The point of the hypothetical is we know the man causes no harm to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:22 AM
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If you suspect he won't like your answer, you shouldn't probably even think of a relationship or dating with a person honestly, at that point you'd be stringing them along.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 10:18 PM
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the original question, yes. but I tried to get some clarification and see what people think about something more specific, since I saw bad takes on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:11 PM
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based.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 08:53 PM
1

true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 08:36 PM
1

on the internet, it oftentimes is ridiculous, but I can somewhat understand why they would think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 08:34 PM
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it isn't a question about getting killed by one or the other, the question was what do you think are the chances of that happening. i just want you to make a risk assessment, or a calculation, if you want, of that happening. no need to think in black and white, or 100% or 0%. that's what the goal of this post was, for people to think about this more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 08:31 PM
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that was more of a derailed conversation, but someone in this thread gives helpful advice to when you encounter a bear, though I'm too lazy to go and find it again xD.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 12:26 PM
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careful. its true that there are bear species that wont kill you or attack you, but there are others that do of the 8, and in this question one bear of any species will get picked randomly, and same is for man, randomly picked.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 12:23 PM
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basically there were several posts made about a question that was usually asked for women. the question is if you would rather be alone in a forest with a man or a bear, and people have been debating that. since its not a very specific question, I tried to get some clarification by asking something more specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:42 PM
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a random bear from all of the bears in the world, meaning any of the 8 species. of course its not an equal chance you'll get one species or the other, but that's part of the risk assessment for you. same goes for man, random man from the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:38 PM
1

that's fair
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:35 PM
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not comparing or saying all men are rapists or murderers, just saying that i understand why they think that way. I'm right now having a debate about that whole men thing lol. anyways, like I said its just risk assessment, and which you see as worse/deadlier. not all bears will kill you, there are 8 different species, but the ones that will kill you, will destroy you. and with men there's also some chance that you'll be raped and/or killed. and its up to the reader to decide which is riskier. bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:06 PM
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"Man, it would be really great if women didn't have to wonder who the 1% is." you don't have to wonder, all you need is strong boundaries and a good support network, and wise choices(when possible). there will always be bad people out there, and while you cant control other people and their actions, you can always minimize the risk of something bad happening to you. its kind of how I see this bear debate too, a game of risk and percentages. "The majority of bears are not eating people, I'm still…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:03 PM
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he was talking to every single player on the field. we are talking about men and women here, and the person you were replying said women, and you said men, so... and like i said you can explain yourself and what you meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 06:57 PM
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of course I would commit to a relationship. though I don't believe that you have a high chance of getting a serious relationship through the apps, so if this hypothetical extends to irl, then yea. though I have no idea how this hypothetical would warp my expectations and beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 06:53 PM
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"I’d say that, if the man knew that he could not ever be held accountable, about 75% of men would rape." where do you get this from? I know you said you got it from hanging out with groups of men, but like, are you sure that's it? if so, id like to hear your thought process. Also we aren't talking about encounters, we are talking about being plucked from where you are and plucking a random man or a random bear from the world and placing them and you into a forest, or a woman, since its what peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 06:37 PM
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"The fear is reinforced by men." here. without elaboration, that's what can be easily assumed, especially with the rise of extremism on the internet. but if you feel like I am doing you dirty, you can always explain yourself and what you meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 06:11 PM
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"The fear is reinforced by men." yup, you did. if that's not what you meant, you should have clarified.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:25 PM
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yup, can see that being scary for a woman. though my personal feeling on this is that at least with a man you have a chance of surviving, but if you get the wrong bear, you fucking die.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:24 PM
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someone corrected me on this, and yeah, you are right, but depending on the bear, it wouldn't even attack you. though if you get unlucky and get the wrong species of bear, you'll get mauled.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:22 PM
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its just a game of odds and what you think will result in most suffering or death, or both, and which is more likely. if you get unlucky both could end bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:16 PM
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its true that my example has too many variables, but I made it a little bit more complex to see what those people specifically would think, and see their thought process, and their risk assessment. and to be fair, I think your example is too simple, the answer for your example is obviously man, though I guess it can be used to weed out bad faith people. "Left to their own devices people tend to fabricate these emotional details when left to do despite hating them I can't really blame women speci…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:10 PM
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all men? you will have to expand on that one, chief.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 04:25 PM
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"It demonstrates that women don't think. It's an exercise in humiliation lol." do you think that they aren't even making a risk assessment, or if they are, do you think that it is irrational because of their experience or "narratives" with and around men? "Because a bear is much more dangerous than the average man." depends on the bear and the context, some bears will just run away before they even see you. in my situation you are placed in a forest with a bear picked randomly from the world, me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 04:24 PM
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"A black bear is just as capable of doing this if you were to go near her cubs." this is true, but be careful, you aren't just meeting a bear or a man in a forest randomly. you get plucked from where you are and get placed in a forest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 04:16 PM
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the assumption is a random bear out of all the bears in the world, and for the staying together part, the whole forest is yours. though remember, you get teleported close together.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 04:02 PM
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its just risk assessment, whatever you think will be safer for you. and that means a random bear of any of the 8 species, meaning you could get destroyed. but yeah, hard to say what a random person would do in that situation if you pick man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 04:01 PM
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I've heard that some species of bear don't attack humans mostly. remember that if you pick the bear you get a random bear, that means you could get unlucky and die, or survive as the bear runs off.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 03:59 PM
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jesus man, wouldn't want that to happen to me. though that looks like a place where polar bears would be and i saw that there are 20-30k polar bears in the world, so I guess that's the outcome (but worse) for those who are unlucky that pick the bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 03:55 PM
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Guess I've been watching too much movies and been on the internet too much. Thanks for the advice. Hopefully I won't need it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 03:30 PM
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Second scenario is what was usually discussed. I can see that happening with a bear, if you don't get a grizzly or a polar. but I'm not yet sure with the random person acting irrational, I guess it depends on the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 03:23 PM
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To be fair they could also just climb up a tree if they see the bear xD. Especially for the previous post where the time limit was 48 hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 03:14 PM
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Yeah, I could be taking it too literally. Though to be fair I'd probably climb up the nearest tree if I saw a bear too out of fear. I guess it's just that we have more bad experiences with others, rather than bears.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 03:13 PM
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True, context matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 03:11 PM
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Yeah, that's the same view I got from the debate surrounding this topic, but I guess people weigh them having better chances of surviving to the bears, or they think that rape would be worse, which is fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 03:09 PM
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im curious to see some responses, thats why im posting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:57 PM
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would the odds change if people and bears encountered each other more often?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:57 PM
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XD. well I'm sure it will get taken down since its only been like 10 minutes and I am probably incorrect about doing something since its my first time posting here, but we will see.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:55 PM
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I guess if you get lucky and get a brown bear, you'd probably be fine. Do you think your odds of something bad happening to you increase at least slightly for the man, because you aren't near any other people, and he would be more inclined to try something funny? I'd assume so.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:54 PM
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with the responses to previous posts I saw, yes, this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:44 PM
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"Is the knee-jerk defensiveness clouding men’s ability to reason?" If anything I think it is clouding your ability to reason. "Women are safer with bears because they can avoid or drive bears away." I assume the hypothetical meant that you are forced to spend 48 hours with one or the other, so that wouldn't really work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 03:18 AM
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How? By shouting "HEEELP" as you're getting eaten?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 03:06 AM
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Would love to see you negotiate with a bear when you are getting eaten.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 08:19 PM
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Good thing the bear won't need justification eating you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 08:17 PM
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Keep it for the bear that will eat you instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 08:11 PM
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Does the bear that will eat you have empathy too?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 07:58 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 07:56 PM
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Bruh. Why debate if you aren't going to do it seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:33 PM
3

-_- it's always a rant or something else that's dumb when the opposing side makes points and the other person doesn't want to engage/doesn't answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:29 PM
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People most commonly find partners through friends and family anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 03:17 PM
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I think what you aren't realizing is that for a LTR you actually start to live with your SO, and you need to start living life with them together, which is probably going to be stress or just normal living, or work 95% of it, even more so once you get kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:36 PM
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you should change your flair back to "pink pill woman."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:29 PM
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exactly. so why are there so many surface level and braindead discussions?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:26 PM
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so true, tired of seeing the naturalist arguments. if something is not functioning, we should change it. like for example encouraging women to ask men out they find attractive/like too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:07 PM
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I didnt read that in the post, not really. I guess there are comments that OP makes that could be extrapolated to that take, but i still think its a bit of a stretch. Though im waiting for them to elaborate on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 03:11 PM
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If thats how you want to read that, sure. Hopefully they elaborate eventually so we know the commenter really didnt assume OP went for the state issued gf meme argument though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 03:05 PM
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"You can’t force people to like or date you, full stop." did OP ever claim this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:57 PM
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tiktok pilled man*
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:53 PM
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that's the point of internet stories. even if its made up, it could help someone later down the line when they search it up, and that's great, I want to be a part of that. same with trolls. Call me contrarian if you want, but just because most people agree on something, it isn't necessarily correct. but yeah, its fair that they see that as a dick move, that's totally fair. i just think both sides have good arguments, was sad to see not as many people understanding the guys side, mostly just tras…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:48 PM
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True, but we have no idea if it's true or not. And let's be real, it's totally fair to end a friendship if you got rejected, people are only assmad because he doesn't want to do something anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:19 AM
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okay lets be real, you were stretching your interpretations a little far.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:06 AM
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I just love people on the internet jumping to conclusions when we don't even know the full picture or that guy's state of mind, you don't know if he wanted to have just sex. you don't know his intentions, the best we can tell is that he wanted to make a friendship deeper. I have been dropped from friendships for a lot less, and I have dropped people too for a lot less, it depends on the person, and what they feel is shitty/not acceptable to them. and that's fine, that's why I say a social contra…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:11 AM
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one of the only correct answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:46 PM
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oh god its you again. both of you red pill and pink pill people are delusional and have no good takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:45 PM
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"You are free to confirm if it was right." bro do your own research, and then debate 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:43 PM
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"I am told that *all* men, *regardless* of their own age and marital status and parenthood, prefer childless women age 18-35." where did you hear this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:41 PM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:30 PM
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Red pill brain rot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:27 PM
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Bad take. Any relationship can be argued to be transactional in some way or another, and it doesnt have to be bad as long as one party isnt using another, and is putting in equal effort. You just dont want your feelings hurt, and thats fine, and is your choice, but you cant tell everyone to not be friends between people with different genders because of your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:27 PM
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He can end a social contract anytime he wants for any reason, and he doesnt have to walk her home just because he has been doing that for years. And she has alternatives anyway, and he suggested some himself to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:23 PM
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the only correct answer. be it AI therapists or real therapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:01 AM
3

to be fair it would hurt everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:54 AM
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yeah, but i imagine IRL mostly its men approaching women. tbh it should be 50/50 people approaching who they like, men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 05:27 AM
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true. there will always be power imbalances and experience differences in almost all of relationships, and an age gap doesn't have to be bad, as long as those differences aren't used for a malicious purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 05:19 AM
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most of these are the fault of social media/individualistic society or other things, and some aren't necessarily a problem. I think this is a societal problem, caused by everyone, and can be solved by everyone. though yes the simping is cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 05:05 AM
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"men" you mean the cringe red pill guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:53 PM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 03:58 AM
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Both of you are in the wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:29 PM
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so what lmao. they wont have a healthy relationship anyway, and that's all that matters imo. no matter how good you look, with no healthy relationships your life will be shite.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 10:28 PM
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We are talking about healthy relationships here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:24 AM
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Why so triggered? Had a realization?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:23 AM
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Wat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:16 AM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:43 PM
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This is what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:38 PM
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aside from the wording, its not a bad question. I assume it has to do with how men and women interact and how they were brought up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 02:19 PM
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Mm not exactly, but I've seen people rag on others for using male and female, but at the time I thought as long as they don't use biological word and women, men in the same sentence, they shouldn't be mad about it. Just my thoughts on this stuff I've seen a while back.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 05:10 AM
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women and MALES. Bet you are one of those people who rag on people who use "female" in the appropriate context.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 04:36 AM
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you can believe that, but that's not what i asked .i asked why do you think those men want to be passport bros/find most women unattractive? where have you seen this phenomenon? have you found this opinion from a content creator? if so, id love to know who they are, to see your full opinion, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 04:09 PM
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what do you think is the percentage of those men that are willing to be passport bros? also why do you think 80% of men find most women unattractive? I mean where have you seen that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 02:16 PM
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Well, fucking and a serious relationship are two different things (yes, ik it's slightly off topic, but worth mentioning)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 09:41 PM
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So what you are saying is, you think that 80% of men find most women unattractive (or at least the average women, whatever you think that is(I know I've seen your pinned comment)) and are willing to go to other countries to get more attractive women. Did I get that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 09:38 PM
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What if they decided to steal while somehow justifying it in their heads?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 06:25 AM
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Bro what? Don't assume what my position is before you have heard it, just ask a question.. and I have no idea what you are going on about when you say that first sentence. I was just pointing out that you misunderstood his intentions with that hypothetical, no idea why you didn't answer that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 06:22 AM
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I wonder why
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:07 PM
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While I don't agree with a lot of points he's saying, I think it wasn't posed as a threat, but as a hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:05 PM
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I imagine there are a lot of ways to get food without a job..
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:21 PM
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Women just have advanced too quickly, and men are being left behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 05:00 AM
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All the problems you listed have a different cause than what you think i imagine, and arent exclusive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:31 AM
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True, but obviously goku is stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:13 AM
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