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Men's expectations are respected more than the men doomed to perform them. When women's dream man is described as a handsome provisional skilled security utility that is foremost useful and valuable, and if he isn't these things then he's subhuman, the problem begins before the man has been introduced. As it is, before a specific man has even been poured into the mold, the mold is already more than them. Naturally, because of this, before the man is properly introduced, the first thing they noti…
/r/MensRights08/04/26 05:50 PM
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It might be worse than that... That mod might be actively scrolling for instances where misandry was said and banning everyone who means it. But I definitely didn't notice the two year bit. Sounds like the YouTube days where people were struck for helping people download videos onto their PS3... I think I people were getting their old videos hit in like 2018. What a mess. I'm guessing since the mods supposedly can't auto ban people for whatever servers they participate in anymore that they're po…
/r/MensRights03/04/26 03:51 PM
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Cheers... It's unfortunate and definitely undeserved to be banned with no notice. We both know you're better off but it's so disgusting how many people like that are shielded from criticism. If it was that big of a problem she could have just blocked you. By observation, because you were handled that way, the world will assume that she was right and you were wrong. Which allows behavior like this to continue with no caution whatsoever.
/r/MensRights03/04/26 03:38 PM
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I think anyone who has an experience people don't wholly understand should be given enough respect to share that experience unchallenged. Back when more men and women cared enough to have heated discussion, a lot of women's talking points were also sustained by the idea that speaking against their points challenged their well being in society. So a lot of room was always given when it was brought up because it unfortunately always needs to be made clear that we can disagree but still want them t…
/r/MensRights01/04/26 11:57 AM
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Oh. I didn't know you meant it like that. I thought you were saying maybe incels didn't get what they wanted because they didn't ask... But yeah, there are definitely unicorns. I hope you find yours.
/r/MensRights31/03/26 07:42 AM
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I feel like this question is like asking why someone who has a certain skill set doesn't have a job that requires those skills. Because the employers don't care. I can sit here, right now, and say I an a good friend. For the sake of hypotheticals let's pretend I am deemed trustworthy. Why don't I have friends? It doesn't really matter who you are to a lot of people. Like the old Xbox 360 days. You could have a nice voice, you could be funny, you could be smart in addition to obviously being a co…
/r/MensRights31/03/26 07:31 AM
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The correlation to invisibility is the only thing that makes sense to me. Basically, everyone who does what is asked is invisible. Good men are invisible, protectors, providers, etc. The toxic, opposed, attractive, violent and oppressive are the bad ones who are seen. Like the content creators who dedicate an entire video to the negative comments they've gotten, but the positivity is effectively unnoticed. If you only took what was said by them. Everyone hates them and they'd need more positivit…
/r/MensRights31/03/26 07:13 AM
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I understand. I'm not saying they haven't. There's a lot less criticism for saying they'd abort someone than murder even if it has the same effect. It's basically "I wish you'd never been born" but with the active ingredient of someone willingly pulling the plug. It is crazy and disgusting that it happens. I knew a girl like that in my school. Her name was Judith. Absolute weirdo, the girl you see who slings her entire body sideways to generate enough force to hit you. She brought the sticks and…
/r/MensRights30/03/26 07:46 PM
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I hate miniaturization so much... It's not a micro anything it's feminism. It's not a micro-aggression it's just aggression. I feel the same way about women getting away with being covertly violent. A person can't generally say die, but there are a lot of women proudly telling others they should have been aborted. The same people who say abortion isn't murder uses the word abortion as a substitute to it. It's abhorrent. I really need to figure out how to point this out more often because I reall…
/r/MensRights30/03/26 04:47 PM
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You can indulge, but I don't think you'll ever get what you want from the exchange. And no matter what I do I cant change their opinions. Right? If they like you or respect your opinions, they can change. But that's not common enough to encourage you to find your super suit. Now, depending on where you are, you shouldn't bother AT ALL if you want to keep being a part of the group. I've definitely stared at the sun long enough to go blind so in cases where you feel the community would not stand w…
/r/MensRights29/03/26 12:08 PM
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Don't even know why I'm so upset about this, considering I'm female If you really sit down and think of how many people probably realized and came to the conclusion similar to Ed Wuncler's "Wait a minute... I'm white!", you'll realize that you shouldn't let that idea stop you from caring in the same way you should feel about this only reaching your heart because you have a boyfriend. I do feel like the "our" in our men pokes at that point. As some women really only realize how men get treated wh…
/r/MensRights29/03/26 12:03 PM
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I don't really ask people if they're feminist anymore. Unlike "I'm a girl, and..." Or, "As a woman..." It's not lead with often anymore because of the implications it has gathered. I probably shouldn't say this out loud, but a lot of these conversations don't happen anymore because you can usually tell by how they engage. If they reply with Whataboutism, ask you to clarify with no effort to understand what is plainly in text, or demand sources or want you to disregard experiences that aren't exc…
/r/MensRights29/03/26 11:51 AM
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I think both sides are reacting to witnessed trauma. As men have to basically admit every day almost like a pledge, bad men do exist. These particular women behave the way they do supposedly because of the existence of these men, and have created these "vetting" procedures to create a subconscious benefit to the potential that these men could be bad. Examples like, "At least he's hot" or "At least he's rich" come to mind. Because the majority of men are not violent, now they basically have to pa…
/r/MensRights29/03/26 11:28 AM
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(I don't really read into Batman like that, so feel free to kick me for what I'm wrong about.) I think it's probably the degree of, "He wanted it", that society paints on men whenever the male is a victim. Because of that, people probably don't feel any way about it. The only real retort I see is from people more concerned with the degradation of Taia than the presented situation. https://www.tumblr.com/onlytalia/42909081228/wayward-talia-al-ghuls-portrayal-and-how-grant (you might have to print…
/r/MensRights28/03/26 08:01 PM
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I'd probably just call them fanatics at this point. If I got to run around claiming people are hitting me to get free support, then being negative never feels negative. (NO! Don't look at all of the men who are now deemed suspicious because of the way I behaved, hate them more!) While the equivalent of that is happening, other women and men who believe in her testimonies praise her bravery and candor, sticking it to the patriarchy while having a monster in her bed. Everyone, even her, is leery o…
/r/MensRights27/03/26 05:34 PM
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For me... Misogyny is more self perpetrated than it is institutionalized. For example, when women need help or protection, or have dating needs, performance needs, societal expectations etc... They call to men. Girls are allowed to cry and boys are taught not to. Boys are taught to not hit girls, to take care of women and children before others, in some areas, just women and girls. Think of these instances we see here. Women being pedophiles, molesting children, killing their husbands. Do we att…
/r/MensRights27/03/26 05:04 PM
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It is. It's basically a "This is why nobody likes you" aspect of conversation. The equivalent to who hurt you, but blanketed easier for manipulating men into doing what they want or else they're doomed to be alone forever. Same tactic they use on incels. It always feels like they're just telling men not to think about anything and to just charge into everything blind, trusting that women and society will judge him properly. Except that they don't. That's why they're not charging anymore. Now "yo…
/r/MensRights26/03/26 11:36 PM
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I don't think you can ever dismantle it without outright removing privilege. Representation typically requires care and aptitude. You have to want to do it, and be good enough at it to excel. If the approach is to just inject women into the pain point, they need to care about the pain enough to act as pain relievers. They don't care because it doesn't apply to them. Like old reality TV. Why would she care about the elimination if she's always granted immunity? If she doesn't care about all men, …
/r/MensRights26/03/26 09:34 AM
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I mean anyone can, but I can't say people will actually help them. As it is, I do think men will likely not get help if toxic behavior was the extreme case. Men already don't get help now. If you're asking if women would still be able to ask for help in the most toxic circumstances... I'm not exactly sure this would exist in extreme toxicity... There are already silly takes on TikTok about women being drafted not being equality or if WW3 happens they'll take a nice seat in the kitchen. So I do f…
/r/MensRights26/03/26 08:46 AM
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Probably because they feel manhood is a privilege. Think about what the beginning of what I said was. They can still cry, can still hit men, can still ask for help, and don't have to protect anything. Women's masculinity is void of all the stereotypical downsides. They can make all the money and still expect and demand men to pay. Because no matter how close she gets to a man, she never is a man. Calling men women is disrespectful to them, no matter how much they cry or ask for help, rarely anyo…
/r/MensRights26/03/26 08:25 AM
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I'd say misandry starts before a child even knows what it is. When boys are told they can't cry anymore, can't ask for help and needs to defend himself, has to figure things out alone, is told that women who hit him can't be hit back, or told smaller people can hit and disrespect him in the same way women do "you're twice his size". Is asked why he didn't do something about something that has nothing to do with him... There's a lot, but honestly misandry is mixed with personal expectations of me…
/r/MensRights26/03/26 07:52 AM
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In my opinion, it's because wrongness is assumed of men. When men get cheated on, abused, disrespected, disregarded, abandoned etc. It's typically assumed they did something wrong. He didn't reply to her text, missed her call, isn't initiating constantly, forgot a special date? He must be cheating! Gotta plot to cheat back because how dare he treat wonderful women as less than gods? Anything less than perfection, or even too much of it, could be met with unfaithfulness. He's not good enough, too…
/r/MensRights26/03/26 07:21 AM
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Telling the yas queen group that they're celebrating tyranny obviously will get that tyranny turned onto you... The plan seems to support everything they do, and then shame you into accepting it. Yeah, there might be a few TikToks of women crying about missing a nuclear family, but in the same breath there are women just as old making videos about dating. The takeaway is usually that it's men's fault for not dating women their age, where men might have genuinely been stunted by the fact that whe…
/r/MensRights26/03/26 01:16 AM
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Understand things can help remove feelings. Try to find truth in things, if you do, you don't have to worry about feeling strongly for or against something that rarely or never changes. Being a misogynist won't change anything. Hating women will only make them feel even more justified in hating you and other men. Maybe you'll feel better, but there's a possibility you'll scare good people away for being evil to the bad. So you'll push the same elusive people away for the sake of hurting people w…
/r/MensRights22/03/26 02:44 AM
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It's not really a thought as much as a fact. Men are taught to respect women in the same way in the past every kid was told to just protect their elders. No matter how stupid things are, you're just supposed to do it even if it doesn't make sense. Women are taught to not really give anything. "Never love a man more than he loves you", the old girls rule boys drool and the you go girl aspect of life really lead with an active encouragement of women and when boys would object, boys shouldn't need …
/r/MensRights22/03/26 02:27 AM
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Well if you were part of a social system that told you it is okay to be you, while telling the other that they need to change who they are and accept the fact they're a man and that they're wrong about everything, you might support therapy too. No. That's not a jab. I'm just saying that if there was a system that said men were cool and women needed a little guidance, men might get on board with that idea just as women have got on the SS Therapy lifetime cruise program. The byproduct of the visit…
/r/MensRights21/03/26 05:05 PM
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You shouldn't be talking to people who would do anything instead of admit they are wrong. I think there is a collective issue where as long as the conversation ends with a win, they don't have to accept anything that was discussed. They're fighting the points because they don't care for them. Just as they see the facts, hear the testimonies and instead blame your choice of people, you picked bad people to date, or love... Ignoring that by their own creed, they're condemning you for entertaining …
/r/MensRights21/03/26 04:27 PM
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Not directly... I am a baby brother to two sisters so when he was away, I was the only guy. I remember him sitting me down after basically turning the whole house against me after hitting my sister who is 9 years older than me back. He basically walked me through what life is for men, how if something needs to be done, it's potentially my responsibility to do it because I am the man. I hated it and instead buried my face into a book called Ferdinand. There's really no escape for it. When you're …
/r/MensRights20/03/26 08:45 PM
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It's no surprise that people who want to control you don't want you to think for yourself... Like the Maverick virus from Megaman X, instead of understand that the robots are only behaving that way because of their experiences coupled with their new or inspired ability to act freely, the virus is blamed instead of the fact that everyone treated robots poorly for those thoughts to exist at all... Instead of reason with the free thinkers, they are destroyed. (As with actual people, not all maveric…
/r/MensRights20/03/26 08:30 PM
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"Make yourself useful" is a term I've almost exclusively heard towards men and children. So yes. Another issue is how expressing your interest in things seems to volunteer you for things. If you're good at deals everyone seems to task you with finding them, if you're good at computers they want you to troubleshoot for them, and fix the issue if you say what it is. You can carry things? You're now volunteered to do it. In a world where "ladies first" is a term, men are overwhelmingly tasked to sh…
/r/MensRights20/03/26 08:05 PM
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I knew a lot of men battling for custody and no matter what goes on they still seem to care. Most lesbians I know don't like men. While gay men I knew just liked men more than they like women. It might not sound like a big difference, but it is. Even when you bring in cheaters. Men I knew doing that weren't ever cackling or giggling about how their partner is none the wiser and laughing about how much they are trying to save a relationship that is over. While women I knew talking about it laugh …
/r/MensRights20/03/26 07:14 AM
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I don't care about YOU. I said most. Men shouldn't have to change who they are for YOU. You don't like it? Too bad. Just because most men want to have the financial master / breadwinner social role isn't our fault. See what you're doing? When I'm making a point, you make it about you, but when you're making a point, you say our. You're bullshitting.
/r/MensRights19/03/26 11:52 AM
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As long as desires remain inconsistent, people who don't stay true to themselves to satisfy those desires will lose themselves. You're one of many women hate masculinity. I don't know how far that goes for you, but most women who hate masculinity just hate being approached or initiated towards. They still want men to fight, suffer, sacrifice and commit, but only when they want. Letting love into your heart is just as vague as rejecting masculinity. Both are very dependent on a concrete definitio…
/r/MensRights19/03/26 08:38 AM
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I get you. I do echo how little you've gotten from women emotionally as well as it being hard to compliment people. The line between being a people pleaser and a genuine compliment is all to the person, and we've basically been cursed with the "pick me" philosophy. Where being nice to anyone is readily shot back in our faces if for nothing else but to make us feel bad. I know you care. Just like you spoke about your cat, you know what's genuine and probably what isn't, but it sounds like you're …
/r/MensRights18/03/26 10:46 PM
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TLDR no... Your life has been taking a shit on you. People may envy your house, and even your past relationship with your mother... But at 21, you're losing things we thought we could confide in at least until our grays come in. Mom gone marriage gone, sucks big time and I'm sorry. At the end of the day... If you still care, the picture of fire is more than a picture. In the same way parents appreciate the crayon drawings and pasta art holiday cards of old. Effort is precious. Mind people's inte…
/r/MensRights18/03/26 08:38 PM
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You've never heard of that? People saying my future husband would do X or Y, and knowing that's a prompt for performance? There are even testimonials online where women say a guy needs to do this many dates or spend this much money on her to consider sex. That's withholding sex to me. That isn't two people wanting to have sex, that's, check all these boxes if you want some ass. Those are hoops. If I've got to win the pet show by doing tricks outside, she needs to do tricks inside. I'm not sure I…
/r/MensRights17/03/26 11:00 AM
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I'll say the table part differently. If I ask you out, you don't have to pay, make sense? If sex is the gift or reward, it shouldn't be his job to make it worth it, because it's supposed to be a treat. I don't think you understood my positioning... I already said mutual sex is definitely on both people. I'm not saying that natural and healthy sex should only be enjoyed by the man. What I am saying though, is all the bullshit, performative withhold sex crap? Yeah, she's going to have to cockjocke…
/r/MensRights17/03/26 10:37 AM
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I do feel everyone should aim to please each other, but I also feel that as long as sex is held off as a reward for men passing the bar, it shouldn't really be seen as men's burden to perform. No... I'm not saying men should be selfish in bed inherently. What I'm saying is that if sex is withheld commonly by society as a reward for doing the social norms, it should actually be a reward and not an additional challenge to pass. Society does this stupid bullshit where women can pretend that sex isn…
/r/MensRights17/03/26 10:10 AM
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It's more practical. Men are expected to provide, and as an old movie called belly says "Shorty can't eat no books". Money is more important than the certificate. I had a pretty smart classmate, his name was Steven. I remember his junior year him and his girlfriend were fighting on the bus because he had an amazing construction job offer but he had to drop out to get it, and he did. His girlfriend (probably ex by then) was flaunting her stuff around a few days later. In the back of my mind I was…
/r/MensRights16/03/26 08:12 PM
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It's not really just apps. Men have expectations that are typically covert. Their sexual performance, their money, skills, "emotional intelligence", penis size, how they handle pressure and conflict, whether or not they can protect or provide, etc. When almost every valuable thing about you is basically "as is, untested" you, as a man fit the criteria of "parts or repair". If you understand that, you're not going to price yourself against the new, used or refurbished goods that are marked. This …
/r/MensRights16/03/26 08:03 PM
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I'm tried of this, grandpa- 'THAT'S TOOO DAMMMNNN BAAAAD!!! You keep diggin'! Hopefully we'll be able to thank each other afterward... I do think that there is effectively legacy long rearing, they probably think is nature, that encourages women to not speak up or take action. When I socialized more outdoors, paying attention to people's, especially women's faces was more important because some things they agree with but won't make a sound, their eyes would light up, mouths may open, you'll see …
/r/MensRights16/03/26 07:45 PM
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I think it's shameful that men are taught to always respect women, but it seems like women are only taught to respect men who can do things for them. It's not like you can do anything about it... If they don't even respect their old relationships, then I don't expect them to respect strangers... I'm sure if they were problematic in one way or another, airing that out is completely acceptable... But they're just calling them ugly for vanity's sake.
/r/MensRights16/03/26 05:40 AM
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To be charitable to the comments... I can take a perspective that they plainly do not understand how much of a deficit there is in healthy male and female interaction. If all I do is deal with men, strength and fitness are incredibly valid forms of coercion. Shoving someone across the room or slugging someone for disrespecting your boundaries is typically not frowned upon when men deal with men. I think they truly don't understand how little interaction is had with women that isn't focused on re…
/r/MensRights15/03/26 09:28 PM
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So the whole motion of women not slowing down their lives, and then men deciding to do the same when women finally come around, is men's fault? This is why mandatory paternity tests don't happen, they literally want the simp economy to be normalized. It tracks though... When life gets rough, put it on men and they'll magically pick up the slack. From dating, to war.
/r/MensRights15/03/26 03:17 PM
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I think there is a complication in how things are. Men genuinely want others to have space, but when they see what happens after, it comes with regrets. I feel like the most vocal and radical people who seek to infiltrate a space want to warp it into what they want for the sake of control. That fear is what makes people want this segregation. And the idea that the right accommodates less things women favor makes this same segregation a byproduct of politics. I don't think that reductive thought …
/r/MensRights15/03/26 02:41 PM
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I think people are upset with what you said because they might feel you believe the current model isn't already sexist... Ideally, you are right. Putting everything in front of everyone for them to observe, deliberate and appreciate what people experience to become who they are should be something everyone wants. The fact that few people value that anymore is probably a factor in why people don't connect. They just want to see the result, not the work.
/r/MensRights15/03/26 02:22 PM
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TLDR: The dehumanizing of men is essentially the shortest way to describe the current issue, women not having to suffer through the men they potentially create and just resign to "who hurt you" or "seek therapy", creates a civilization where people need to segregate to feel fulfilled. I think the curriculum should actually accommodate boys instead of force the Mars and Venus mindset. I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but the whole, boys go over there and girls go over here, thing is why we all hav…
/r/MensRights15/03/26 02:17 PM
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Sometimes it is necessary to consider whether or not someone is saying something to control how you act, speak or think. If you are always taught that men practice violence, you're going to raise your voice a lot less, control your behavior, and tailor your words to be a specific way for the sake of digestion. If male violence was such an issue, telling innocent people who wouldn't even consider it, about it, is just as effective as telling people living in a desert how to prevent forest fires. …
/r/MensRights12/03/26 05:47 AM
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Possibly... But any situation could be explained if you waste enough time doing it. Being poor and existing in a space where people watch and relish in the fact that you're poor is the problem. Not to mention when it becomes the dominant factor to your personal worth. If the only thing people around you value is objects, and you want to be valued but cannot produce whatever grants you those objects... Theft is considered. Most people don't steal because they value what they have, who they are an…
/r/MensRights11/03/26 06:56 AM
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Personally my answer is that there is a respect and communication issue. If we are all told to respect EVERYTHING women say, the outcome is that everything they say is going to be heeded. There are a lot of things men simply don't do because they respect what women said. From not keeping female friends, to not approaching women, to not texting twice in a row, asking if they need help, giving them all the space they ask for, not asking them to change anything, or expecting anything at all. But wh…
/r/MensRights11/03/26 06:18 AM
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Yeah. The issue that you typically can't up and change your class or get away from other students greatly contributes to why it's a problem. Like some workplaces do when a person who just tried to get you fired is told you're not allowed to feel negatively about that because it's considered retaliation. Situations like this enable bad actors to be supported in their actions. But unlike work, some child can't up and quit school. It definitely puts it all on the child, moreso if the child and his …
/r/MensRights11/03/26 01:54 AM
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It's like they're asking for specific people to proudly don red hats... Also, being able to overbid the lowest non DEI competition to cheese out up to another 5 percent from the government is an interesting loophole they're stating outright. I also don't think they understand (or care) how much money is usually made in the low end... Especially in cases like Florida where property owners are required to have certified contractors do repairs on their properties. I know we're talking about Virgini…
/r/MensRights10/03/26 09:29 AM
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A lot of the world moves on the effectiveness of women's appeal. I don't agree with it at all, it's just that it's kind of like a child crying. If no adult cares, they're crying for nothing. The 4B and other women's movements are basically given the momentum they have because men are supposed to, and often do, see that and try to do better. Like withholding sex, the inaction is supposed to be a call to action. Why is that okay but not from men? Just ask all the women who slide into doorways but …
/r/MensRights10/03/26 09:09 AM
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That's true for everything that is criticized... I rather not pretend like it's something men can fix rather than make it clear that men's issues take such a negative opinion because the negativity is what others want to find in them. Men are typically corrected immediately if they bring up women's shortcomings in their spaces. Women are left and allowed to assume the worst of men and since guys typically want to talk to women, they resign to that assumption to continue the conversation or they …
/r/MensRights10/03/26 06:01 AM
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Selfishness... If men's only sexual and emotional gratification is a woman, that woman will be valuable forever. I'm sure the "don't pedestalize me" from society is colliding with what I just said... When men looking at porn is bad but buying Onlyfans isn't, when men hoping for AI connections is bad but hopelessly seeking women is good, investing in his assets is bad if the effect is that he dates less and encounters women less, you see that the value being pushed isn't the connection, but the w…
/r/MensRights09/03/26 06:05 PM
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I don't think a lot of men would feel perilous about their existence if their actions were only criticized or controlled by themselves and not others. There's a lot of absolutes that men generally face when existing. Like needing to be a certain height, class, stature, political or religious opinion, practice a certain type of etiquette and be protective of a gender he is constantly reminded he possibly would never share a life with. Just like the expectation to be patriotic to a land who has gi…
/r/MensRights09/03/26 05:32 PM
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I think a lot of war is waged that way. If the only people speaking (or more effectively, taking action) against something are men, then removing the men neutralizes the issue. So, if no one enforces something, words mean nothing. So the people talking but doing nothing, mean nothing. Essentially, if women aren't doing anything, they're not seen as a threat, so they're left out of it. Regrettably, forcing men to fight, forces men to be a threat, and forces them into a life or death situation. Pe…
/r/MensRights09/03/26 05:13 AM
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I'd equate the application of misandry as something people think is good for you but actually hurts you. Furthermore, if someone is hurting you but the world says it's the right thing to do, how much would you feel allowed to be upset? Male circumcision is something that's done in that respect. Harmful, but completely assumed to be done in earnest. So much of it is also shamelessly championed. Phrases like: Women and children, women and girls, real man, masculinity, alpha man, provider male, pro…
/r/MensRights07/03/26 05:16 AM
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There are probably too many workplace situations where people are essentially forced to compensate for women. Like hiring a lot of short people in a pallet stacking position leads to a lot of unnecessary prompts for team lifts, hiring women who aren't expected to pick up their own slack creates a scenario where other workers become obligated to help. Typically the axe to grind is that women who behave this way have their lack of work ethic completely sustained by their willingness to escalate. A…
/r/MensRights04/03/26 06:24 PM
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I don't think it's understood that an equal struggle isn't always going to look or feel as bad as a singular one. For example, it is more expensive to be a single woman. Pads, products, likely soaps makeup etc. Where men is basically a multi soap shampoo conditioner, and some deodorant. Same as women having children, guys aren't holding onto a baby for 9 months inside of them. But the problem with all of that is that if you HAVE to live with that, it isn't really a struggle as much as it is a hi…
/r/MensRights03/03/26 01:43 PM
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I think it's just simpler than confrontation... For example. If you crash out as a guy, a woman could just screenshot your conversation and make fun of you. They could basically hit you where it hurts and make you feel worse about it. I guess blocking and ghosting is better than telling the truth in situations like that because instead of just be angry at them and lose respect if they told you they're repulsed by you and don't actually like you even a little bit, people instead are confused and …
/r/MensRights03/03/26 01:02 PM
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It's because they have a twisted view of attraction. Women love to see men vulnerable, but only women who truly like those men back care to protect that vulnerability. When it is socially normalized to be constantly put at risk of rejection, but also ridiculed for not volunteering to be rejected for everything, not just intimacy, their version of equality is basically a circus party. Where women exist and are constantly entertained by clowns, mimes and performers who risk their life and reputati…
/r/MensRights02/03/26 01:27 PM
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I think the existence of it is fine until it becomes a sale. Typically the issue for me is that when people speak against things like this, they don't offer useful alternatives. Porn is bad, okay so what do you look at? Oh go outside and get a real girl. Don't expect sex, okay, so just pay for dates that probably cost more than sex, and potentially get nothing? Red pill has that same problem. Don't buy it, don't look at it... So look at what? Bluepill? Blackpill? MGTOW? Oh, don't look at those e…
/r/MensRights01/03/26 06:42 PM
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When conversations like this were more common, women used to always mention things we couldn't control. Like menstrual cycles and the fact only they get pregnant. Nature did that to you, not us. I understand that now more women are pointing to men being violent and dangerous. There's nothing men can do about that either. If we saw it, we could stop it, sure. But even if we personally did, it wouldn't change how they feel about us. So women are again, upset about things that we cannot change in t…
/r/MensRights01/03/26 12:50 PM
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I don't think they understand how many people will pass on him simply because he is a virgin... Calling a virgin a predator is crazy. Bro has no score and they got the killcam on him like he's about to do something. When I was a virgin I probably would have got a better response if I told them I got an STD. They swear by all that untouched men are a plague, but who's going to do it if not the people who liked them enough to talk to them? Why are we treating virgin men worse than assholes? I gues…
/r/MensRights28/02/26 12:02 PM
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TLDR is people believe in what they can see. Women being into chads is mostly due to the fact that they don't really believe men are good, so they basically say if they can't find a good guy, they might as well get a hot one. A lot of times you'll find a good guy is being tested for a fault. It's not because he needs to be perfect, it's because women think that's an act in the same way men test women to see if they're materialistic. Take her to McDonald's, the Cheesecake factory, a coffee date. …
/r/MensRights27/02/26 06:58 PM
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Then what the fuck are you doing? Patting yourself on the back? That's bitch shit if I've ever seen it. Telling me to enforce something I can't do is like telling me to go in the women's bathroom. I can't enforce a don't hit girl policy if one, I'm a fucking guy, and 2 I can't get women to do anything. You got a better idea, fuck off and get it done. I'll keep breathing because I know you're full of shit.
/r/MensRights27/02/26 12:39 PM
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I don't think she understands that that is literally why he wants to have sex. He wants to escape that criticism. There are a lot of undeserved criticisms that come with being a certain type of man that exist outside of a dictionary. Small, incel, virgin, insecure and etc type of men suffer from judgements that lie entirely outside of the definitions that describe the adjectives he's forced to wear. Difference is, men are trying to get something to stop being criticized. And women are just telli…
/r/MensRights27/02/26 12:35 PM
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Bullshit. Don't try to put this on people's shoulders that can't do anything about it. Men can't make women not hit them. There aren't women out there who will fight in men's stead like there used to be because they respected the rule enough to uphold it. Say something else stupid.
/r/MensRights27/02/26 12:25 PM
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There's a difference between can, and can with consequence. When I was a kid that phrase was still around but women and teacher adults were around to make sure that wasn't an issue. Even the older girl students would step in and make sure that wasn't what happened. When the consequence is gone, they just can and that's the problem. When women can start a conversation and casually say "so I hit him" and it is normal for women to slap men for anything on TV, nothing points to women not being able …
/r/MensRights27/02/26 11:36 AM
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No... But if women treat male suicide the same way they treat men's mental health and loneliness in men, it's better it isn't widely discussed. Even in aspects of romance and the emotional well being of their intimate partners they take the stance of "not my problem" and everyone's escape phrase is "seek therapy". When all signs point to therapy, and most men's experience with therapy is just someone with a degree or license telling you what most of the population does already, they're basically…
/r/MensRights27/02/26 11:11 AM
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Are you brainwashed? They're not doing it because it would hurt their loved ones, like the example I gave earlier, they're doing it because they're seen as a failure. Men are typically associated with performance. No money, small dick, ugly, virgin, incel, misogynist, etc. Stuff that he needs to constantly compete with to be seen as valid to society. He's not a person, he's a trophy rack. If he's got no trophies, society treats him as worthless. A woman who is broke, no job, no skills, no sex, h…
/r/MensRights26/02/26 11:05 AM
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Suicide is a consensual choice and is valid if the person has thought through. Then why do you feel it is a privilege that men have an easier time doing it? And then mention that more people outwardly care about women so they feel the need to do it less. You're basically saying that if you were a girl, people wouldn't let you feel like this, but came over here telling everyone that suicide is a male privilege. Who cares if you can, you shouldn't feel like you should. It's not a positive.
/r/MensRights26/02/26 10:56 AM
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A privilege to die? So you think being forced into combat or being the expected person to solve a physical dispute is a privilege? Nothing is good about the idea that it's easier. It's fucking sad. Some guy blasting his head off because bills are due and he knows his family will be disappointed in him isn't a privilege. It's a scar on humanity that genuinely makes men feel like death is a better option than temporary failure. Find different words. Men dying isn't or ever should be a privilege.
/r/MensRights26/02/26 10:49 AM
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Look dude, having mental health diagnoses and maybe having a rougher time of life isn't what I'd ever call a privilege. Just like others have, I thought it was bait... But it seems like you genuinely believe this. Abandoning isn't a privilege, the idea everyone would stop you from ever feeling like that, is. You likely feel this way because nobody was remotely afraid to push you to this even if not directly. People not caring about you isn't a privilege, and it takes more than one person to brea…
/r/MensRights26/02/26 10:40 AM
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I mentioned elsewhere that the most impactful double standard I've seen is among bisexuals, where bisexual men were seen as less than because they liked men too, where bisexual women weren't associated with that type of negativity. A bi girl is bi, but a bi guy is gay. That might have actually been my first whiff of modern day "equality" when I think about it.
/r/MensRights26/02/26 10:21 AM
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It's basically the consequence of logistics... Making life experiences easier and then charging money for or monetizing it (like with ads or selling "anonymized" data) is what happened. Making friends used to involve socializing. Getting seen with a color cartridge outside "IS THAT POKEMON!?" and being in places that other people were also interested in, like waiting on line for the midnight game release, or standing in line for movie tickets. Now that same excitement and conversational appeal i…
/r/MensRights25/02/26 04:28 PM
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A series that doubles down on musical performances that pedestalize princess fantasies... Caring about men? Maybe Pixar, maybe Marvel, maybe Star Wars, but Disney as a whole? That's what Disney has been ever sense they left stuff like goofy and duck tales, darkwing duck and all that behind. Disney animation is pretty good, stuff like 9th grade ninja big hero 6 and stuff like that. But if they're trying to associate the Disney people associate with the word Disney as caring about men... I don't s…
/r/MensRights24/02/26 11:08 PM
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I think it wouldn't matter as much. I could literally buy a smartwatch and be on call with them the entire time. When the child gets older they could just use a phone. I'm not saying I wouldn't be a little worried, male or female. But typically a lot of people who are worried, don't actually think about what could address that fear. Like home security etc. If they know the kid is being watched (worst pun ever) or has some type of recorder in the bag that's always on, there's going to be way less…
/r/MensRights24/02/26 08:19 PM
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I know I haven't. I think if there was a socially deemed healthy place to do it, more men would do it. But when men's mental health day and the loneliness epidemic gets so much hate unprovoked, it is rightfully assumed that having a problem is something they don't want men to actually admit. The issue is basically sacrificial and it's something people never address. Being a "man" isn't just a title, but a constantly redefined status. There's always going to be people who don't think doing someth…
/r/MensRights24/02/26 07:52 PM
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It's funny really. When you actually understand that men legitimately do not want to be predators so most of the teenage relationships schoolgirls got into were downright predatory, those teenage boys didn't repeat that trend. Then the author basically tells on themselves with the fact that they view smoking and drinking as social addictions, where I vividly remember having to give up on friendships and potential relationships because there were many mainstream kids who wouldn't hang out or date…
/r/MensRights24/02/26 11:01 AM
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I grew up with a work hard play hard mindset. Back then, doing my work so I can play pokemon in the back of the class or beyblades Yu-Gi-Oh! And later Megaman battle network and monster hunter was my motivation to do good. The same thing they say about when you love something, you make time. Me doing my work and creating time to do what I want to do is literally what kept me motivated. Nowadays, it seems like the work isn't what they want, but the time. They want you to be busy all day, be focus…
/r/MensRights23/02/26 10:05 PM
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I think it's just guys don't have a personal outlet to speak this way. I remember when I was in school I had a few consecutive classes in common with girls and when we would walk from civics to music, they'd all swoon about how manly the civics teacher was and Alison was a softball girl that would literally sit in her desk and "pat herself down" in plain sight in that class. So girls do feel this way about adult teachers too, it's just that everyone understands that women aren't people we should…
/r/MensRights23/02/26 02:17 AM
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There's basically a "my house, my rules" problem with it all. For example, if drugs are legalized, certain places of employment can opt to continue enforcing a drug free policy. So the idea that men's rights can exist means less because if "we only practice feminism" is a house rule, then you basically have to move out to speak about it. In a household, workplace, school, and even internet platform, if you get disciplined for speaking outside of that scope, you can't really talk about or support…
/r/MensRights22/02/26 04:11 PM
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Are you familiar with how courtship works? A lot of men are tasked to be someone who is told yes. Whatever it is from spending enough to being around enough. Everything stems from that approval. How many women would rather cheat than work out their relationship? How many women already have another guy on hand when the relationship fails? This is exactly why some men are attracted to crazy women. Because them going crazy and attacking or flipping out and crying over a potential breakup is more ap…
/r/MensRights22/02/26 09:59 AM
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Until attraction and courtship changes I don't think it'll ever change. There are some girls who will do a lot for a man. But in my experience they were either older, or cheating on their husband to get something he didn't have. Point is, women who pull the weight for a relationship behave completely differently than what is traditionally accepted. If a man put all the work into the relationship, why would a woman work to keep it? It typically only existed because a man fought to start that rela…
/r/MensRights22/02/26 08:09 AM
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I don't feel disillusioned as much as I feel uninvited to express those emotions. When everything is physical and pretty much nothing is intellectual, there isn't any way to bond without immediately having ulterior motives. I'm talking to her because she's attractive. Because we're not already talking, why would I talk to someone I simply don't know, if I could talk to someone I don't know, who is also attractive? There isn't a good segway to have those emotions or any gradual connection that wo…
/r/MensRights22/02/26 07:38 AM
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I guess since she wasn't a full-on teacher she didn't get plot armor... Smfh. Jokes are supposed to be funny. Hopefully they actually sentence people this was across the board from now on.
/r/MensRights21/02/26 08:18 AM
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If you lose but are forced to compete. Are you wrong for dragging your feet? That's probably the shortest way I can describe an incel situation. Men who were either told they were inadequate or just feel that way themselves, being forced by society to get out there and take risks for their own good, when the last few times they've tried, they've been told exactly what made them this way. "You'll get em next time." Is the type of attitude they want you to adopt while paradoxically cratering into …
/r/MensRights21/02/26 08:04 AM
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Gay was widely used between men forever as an insult, even if the intent to be homophobic wasn't there. Virgin is another word that carries negativity for men specifically. And so is incel. Calling men who don't do what we expect, a pussy or a girl, is also what happened a lot too. So it's not really a new thing. I'm not even sure if it's all because of hating men as it is just speaking freely in a situation where they're not socially penalized for doing so. I'm not defending it, I'm just introd…
/r/MensRights19/02/26 07:03 AM
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It is and it's not. It's not because we obviously don't need a relationship to be ourselves. But it's not because some people genuinely feel and act as if that is what they need to function properly. When guys you talk to disregard problems or their own well being because they're girl crazy, it does break potential bonds. You can lose friends when you are around men who throw everything away for a relationship. So despite it likely being a direct question, the idea that men are raised to find a …
/r/MensRights18/02/26 03:13 PM
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Well if you ever feel down again, post again. Modern life makes us lonely a lot of the time. We all suffer alone in hope we'll find someone to build together with, but in honesty, we could have been building together from the start. If you find someone who understands that, there's a lot of expectations in life you simply never have to meet. Always keep your eyes open for any opportunity to save yourself.
/r/MensRights18/02/26 02:59 PM
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People look for excuses for people they value. It says more than it should. I try to stay away from people like you described, usually if I look at what else they've said I find it's better I never see their opinions again.
/r/MensRights18/02/26 02:46 PM
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Stay alive. Something people typically don't understand is that when you only focus on winning and losing, you miss the scale that basically ruins the appeal of competitiveness. For one to win, one must lose. We usually focus that on a two person scale, and that seems fine. But when you scale it further... There are competitions and contests where many people compete, and some can't even qualify, others drop out while preparing, others can't afford to travel, etc. There are A LOT of losers. Not …
/r/MensRights18/02/26 02:40 PM
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Preventive discussion and harmful language around "potential" and "future" cases are probably the first things that need to be stopped before the talk about it stuff gets addressed. NOT because talking about it isn't important, but because talking about it is ALREADY what's giving birth to the issue. Globally, we spend so much time on what men are supposed to be and are supposed to do. We talk about men's failures and shortcomings as if it were an update and not a problem. We call men as a gende…
/r/MensRights18/02/26 02:18 PM
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It's likely a selfish issue. Where if they speak up about men's issues, they'd look really childish when they reject the option to share their resources to help men too. Essentially, they feel like everyone deserves to eat, but they'll never share their food with you. Like a pity invite, you're there for them, they're not there for you. They tell you to line up and that there's enough food for everyone, but your plate stays empty and you realize you're better off finding your own food instead of…
/r/MensRights16/02/26 10:39 PM
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TLDR: Men aren't losing their voice as much as women are in that regard. If women don't want to be seen as physically topical, and not much else, they need to police each other in the same way men do when their actions promote something they don't want to be associated with. Generally? I'd relate it to the Nordic Model of prostitution. Where prostitutes aren't punished for doing what they do, but men are punished for attempting to purchase that activity. I say that because if women running aroun…
/r/MensRights15/02/26 02:42 PM
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I think if more women actually comprehended the idea that "They just want to put us against each other!" there would be a lot more grounded women to speak to about... Everything. So laugh me out of here but rainbow haired AI girl has made more progress than a lot of the others.
/r/MensRights15/02/26 07:50 AM
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I feel like I read the adult version of stone soup... But instead of stones, the tools for suicide were the inspiration. There was a lot of life in the read, but the existence of the "stones" were the reason why the soup was not enjoyed, even by the chef. Unfortunately there are a lot of things in life we don't do say or communicate because people can leave us for it. And the dog Cowboy illustrates that. Even the people interacting with him making comparisons to him are only doing it because the…
/r/MensRights15/02/26 05:13 AM
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I'm happy for them... I guess the only type of takeaway I can put up is that if you do have good male friends, maybe don't let your lady call you gay for actually confiding in them over her. As you can see her husband felt a type of way about it, and even one of the pictures they took said that their friendship was "unconditional." She said that herself. I don't really have friends like that anymore but frankly if you have it, make sure you keep it. The amount of time they spent on the marriage …
/r/MensRights14/02/26 07:46 PM
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It's why all the crap about their exes and what not being bad makes me groan. Let's say somebody hates women but one gets the "you're one of the good ones" clause. All it takes is for that woman to break his expectation and then she's "trash" like the rest again. Misogyny all around right? Sexist woman hating pig right? What's this then? Saturday... The general idea that men need to beat the hate to be worthy of love is dumb as hell. Not ever guy is trying to date them, but their judgement of me…
/r/MensRights14/02/26 05:38 PM
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Hold a mirror up to it. When women complain about men, say they hate men, want them to die, that they're all ugly, violent, misogynists and sex crazed losers who need to go to war or jail to prove themselves worthy of being a man... Do we feel the need to "fix" them? That's the problem. One side does something, it's cool. The other side does something, even if it is a mimicry of what they experienced, it's a problem. Why? When women were falling behind in school and college. They were helped. Wh…
/r/MensRights14/02/26 01:52 PM
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I feel like they're going to need to be more tactful about this. I hope they understand that the people who genuinely care about this are essentially OUT FOR BLOOD. To dramatize further, they're looking for names to write in the Death Note. But that should serve the point... Telling people names of people who aren't in the same cloth and telling them to relax "This man isn't (Goku) Black" is going to create a situation where the same people who are outside with their pitchforks and torches are g…
/r/MensRights14/02/26 10:20 AM
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It's amazing how we are supposedly taught that every vote counts... But quickly forget about that when it's time to talk. Men basically need to already have a job before these people will hire them. If someone has hired him, he's confirmed healthy and capable. But by the time someone hires him, he no longer needs the approval of people like this. When the vocal majority of women speak this way, men who either currently have nobody to show off or have had no luck, get hurt. Guys who haven't even …
/r/MensRights13/02/26 03:20 PM
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I guess that's different. My mom split with my dad when I was 18... Apparently it was head cannon that if she did it then, I wouldn't get fucked up. Knee slapper is that she did that right after giving my dads trucker money to her South African Prince. Hopefully your children hardened up and wasn't hurt by it. But the points lost isn't a hard society thing. For example there are people who have income based questions like where do you work what do you drive how much you make, and if you already …
/r/MensRights13/02/26 10:20 AM
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If I was to redirect your insight, I'd equate it to the "cool uncle". You're not expected to perform or have anything. So when you leave a relationship with lost finances, I don't think that docks you any points as a woman. But a man who has lost in a relationship is less of a man because of how he is judged. Males aren't really championed for their emotional energy if you couldn't already tell... Now, a fair question that would point back at how much you tried to keep the relationship. Did you …
/r/MensRights13/02/26 09:52 AM
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It's a tough issue. You should always take notice when women want men around. To fix, pay, protect, maintain, care, defend and what other service based uses they have. When someone only misses you when the bill slides under the door, they don't miss you. Think of the term "mankeeping", the same women that is probably tapping her fingers together like she's making a point when she says learn social skills, doesn't want you to talk. The same women who say you need to own a home but want to confine…
/r/MensRights13/02/26 09:12 AM
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Oh my god... We have a winner. She says that men being lonely leads to violence and extremism, and then says women shouldn't be responsible for mankeeping, and claim men blame other people for not having friends? Do you want to know why? Because men are often insulted for that inadequacy. Incel, creep, loser, immature, under-developed, violent extremists, childish, etc. And how is that his fault? He's getting called any and all of those things because he doesn't have friends. What do women get c…
/r/MensRights12/02/26 09:54 AM
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I think that's just stupid... Do you know how many people we as men could actively stop but we'd have to deal with the law? You can't look at the Epstein list and pull on your Punisher fit and just get it done. You gotta sit there with both hands on one knee and smile like its fucking picture day. People who can do something about things are plenty pissed off about them. But they either legally or socially cannot do it. Think about men who are abused by women. Most can bounce her off the wall an…
/r/MensRights12/02/26 03:51 AM
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It's like seeing someone leave the bathroom without washing their hands... I make a mental note of it and I avoid them. I also give other people a heads up who interact with them. Sometimes you have to consider what you're fighting for. If you're fighting trash and there's nothing to gain from doing so, why are you doing it? You can't change them... So you basically need to put that person on watch. It's up to them to change, but you can definitely encourage everyone to avoid them until they do.
/r/MensRights12/02/26 03:38 AM
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It seems like they avoided the sunk cost fallacy completely. I genuinely feel a lot of the lingering sadness is from how much that man lost in order to gain something he tried to keep. Like foreclosing on a house he paid into for decades, or having a car he got comfortable with get repossessed. Where not only time, but money got wasted on someone who wasn't appreciative of that at all. I feel like if women made an equal investment into men, that they'd feel similarly about it and not be so quick…
/r/MensRights12/02/26 03:32 AM
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I mean... Feminism is socially defunding half of the population. I don't understand why they think that wouldn't be the outcome. I'm not going to say I hate cops and then expect them to come help me with the urgency of a New York firefighter.
/r/MensRights11/02/26 02:45 PM
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The irony is that this is the same type of behavior "incels" get hit with when trying to find a place. We all talk about what is healthy for community and conversation, but we have no problem telling the forgotten chunk of society to fuck off, making them go to the exact place they tried to resist by speaking where they were. It's not really a fair conversation to have with women... As they have the TEA app and a bunch of spaces where they relish in the idea that men aren't allowed. They're neve…
/r/MensRights11/02/26 02:41 PM
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I'm not sure if that's backwards... But it looks like it to me. When men suffer, it's on men. When women suffer, it's on everyone. Maybe you're talking about the part where men not being chivalrous or the, men's issue, women most affected thing. Where every time we successfully identify a male issue women don't want to pounce on, they metoo that shit and now we should work on their version before we get to our own. If so... Yeah. My head is kind of stuck on how we changed education for women and…
/r/MensRights11/02/26 12:08 PM
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Paradoxically, it's because being a man is an individual value based on what the world wants them to be. Men working together to make being a man easier, isn't very manly to society. Think of how men are insulted when they take the opportunity to ride the wave of feminism to have an easier time. You thought that just because I got a job you were out of paying for bills and dates? You thought that just because I want to be independent that you don't have to protect me? You thought that just becau…
/r/MensRights11/02/26 11:35 AM
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So are those men going to get a financial guide's look-see into what money women earn and how much of that is spent on the household? I hate how there's always this one sided idea about contribution. Equality will never happen as long as one side thinks equality (that hinders their desires) is unattractive. It is always genuinely mind boggling how it is assumed that one side doesn't want to do certain chores, but it's more on the lines that they don't really care. I don't care if there's no dust…
/r/MensRights08/02/26 05:21 AM
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False accusations, weaponized incompetence, misandry, dating etiquette, gender roles and holding men to traditional expectations are all forms of that experimentation. I'm sure there is a type of person who feeds off the idea that so many people are protecting them despite knowing they themselves are doing unreasonable things. But personally... It makes me feel like that's why women tolerate disrespect so often. Those types of people know what they are and what they really deserve. But we'll nev…
/r/MensRights07/02/26 02:08 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1quzcz2/comment/o3ewz7h/?context=3 Literally just brought that up the other day... I swear these people are absolutely shameless and it's so annoying that instead of actually punished the person... They basically insist on maintaining the idea that a woman's word should be held in high honor because it is a serious issue. Don't get it twisted, it IS a serious issue. BUT SO IS THIS! Good people getting scarred for life only seems to matter if they're f…
/r/MensRights06/02/26 05:44 AM
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Telling me that stuff still happened while admitting it wasn't nearly as dominant just sounds like you want to disagree just to disagree. Those groups didn't exist as a performative effort to get more metric traction. There were rarely any likes linked to a person's profile that deemed them more seasoned as a user than others, the idea of performing to gain relevance wasn't as gamified as it is now. Even when there was, most of it was based on activity and not ratings of said activity. It's like…
/r/MensRights05/02/26 10:13 AM
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Before social media pushed the importance of metrics as hard as it did, this stuff wasn't that important. Old school forums, instant message platforms, etc weren't worried about the importance of bonding through tribalism. Hobbies definitely, but not tribalistic crap that promotes subconscious promotions of values that directly do fuck all for you as an individual. All the needless "us vs them" crap you're talking about is a distraction to keep us away from the fact we've lost an actual communit…
/r/MensRights05/02/26 09:47 AM
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False accusations basically reveal the issue. The problem is that women are invested in each other, and their mistakes are minimized and not punished. If you speak against false accusations, they'll tell you about how you always need to take it seriously because it could be real, ignoring the whole moral of crying wolf. Men bring up mothers killing their own babies (not by abortion), women always jump in and talk about how she's not in her right mind and should be forgiven. Do they think most cr…
/r/MensRights03/02/26 09:18 PM
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The problem is always going to stem from righteousness... Women likely feel that their prejudice of men is okay because it can be fronted with the idea that it is for the sake of safety. I treat men like crap because they're dangerous, misogyny kills, misandry hurts feelings, more guys rape than women, and whatever other male deafening statements you need to introduce to understand what I'm saying. If "men made the system" women being afraid of men is all men's fault to them. So no matter what y…
/r/MensRights03/02/26 08:58 PM
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I'd say that the word man is like a rite of passage, but moreso like a standard bearer. The instillment and appreciation being associated with man is a form of social control and removes individuality for the sake of upholding specific behavior instead of the person. It's likely not done on purpose by everyone, but in situations like this, when you associate all positivity with that standard, removing the bearing of that standard (your association with the word man), potentially removes all prai…
/r/MensRights01/02/26 10:22 PM
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I'd say most of everything social media users do is because of metrics. If there were no upvote downvote visibility crap, everyone could run amok and say what they mean to who they feel needs to hear it. But because metrics are on the forefront of interaction, people avoid that situation. Posting sharable slop is basically what networking is. Tame, mainstream, coddling thoughts and opinions that gain traction for people who would likely be buried if they were honest. People taking arms with othe…
/r/MensRights01/02/26 12:25 PM
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I remember my friends girlfriend, probably wife now was wide eyed when I explained a concept so simple as no one being born evil. I guess because she was pregnant, that put her mind at ease. It wasn't profound, it's obvious to me and I'd assume to you all too. But to people like these who can't even trust men to not turn evil for not one second seem to consider that no one is positively interacting with those boys. Figuratively, the world has become dangerous white vans for boys to avoid. People…
/r/MensRights31/01/26 08:21 PM
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Personally, it's gotten to the point where none of that even feels good. Men can protect, but because that protection is expected but nothing is expected from women, why would you want to do it? Men are often lamented by women when a duty is involved, kill bugs, protect, do labor, provide, fix things, listen to her problems, etc. But what does he get? The ability to do that? The deeds feel soulless if you're doing it for a husk. Doing something because you can, and doing it because you want to a…
/r/MensRights31/01/26 07:56 PM
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It's tactless. I was raised to think of women with the highest esteem and to respect them and be kind to them. If I wasn't raised around siblings, a mother and additional people who continuously eroded that monolith in my mind, I'd be much more impacted by misandry than I am. In an "ideal" situation, imagine a man who was raised that way without that image being shattered, being destroyed constantly by who everyone told him was the most precious thing he could ever love. Someone who was and is c…
/r/MensRights30/01/26 10:34 PM
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Women's own safety seems to fall under this too. With examples GrandRetroCandy made that would simply constitute for basic survival like changing their own tire or exterminating pests in their residence. Men basically made that point decades ago when they suggested women not wear suggestive clothing if they didn't want to be harassed, the response was: "Teach men not to rape!" To me, the weaponized incompetence here is that you have any chance to reduce the outcome of bad things happening to you…
/r/MensRights29/01/26 08:55 PM
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"wHy DoN't MeN jUsT tALk MoRe" At some point people need to realize that this is an empty gesture... Like how your mother would ask if you were hungry or if you had any dishes and would visibly wig the fuck out if and when you said yes. She's saying it so she doesn't feel bad and so you feel like she would even though she doesn't want to. And once you realize she doesn't actually care, you can always say no, and she can always feel good about pretending like she wants to do for you. People do ex…
/r/MensRights27/01/26 10:14 PM
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I think dating apps and the like have basically destroyed everyone's vetting ability. At the start of identity politics, having a peace sign and flag or whatever in your status was basically policed to the point where now you can't tell if someone is either for gay or gay, for trans or just trans, and whatever other thing. Queer could mean basically anything, so if you're looking for a straight woman. Good luck. I'd imagine the woman equivalent to these things are dealing with what they care abo…
/r/MensRights27/01/26 10:04 PM
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I think the main issue is that you really can't even start small. When you never feel like you have ground to stand on, you're not going to be able to speak your mind without having to look over your shoulder. Because of platforms like this that sustain hatred toward specific groups of people because they don't deem it as discriminating, the whole stupid "reverse racism" mentality is allowed and validated because even if it's not stated this way, that's what it is. So when the laws change, what …
/r/MensRights27/01/26 01:34 PM
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You have to seperate you, from man. People say you are a man, a this, a that, when they don't know YOU. It's reductive. You need to embrace the fact that you're more than people know, and to wear who you are, and not who people think you are. If nothing fits better than the truth, why would you want to wear what people have given you? Is it true? Does it fit? Then wear something else. Those clothes are useless to you, it's essentially prison attire. Women are in their Sunday best. All that abuse…
/r/MensRights27/01/26 03:26 AM
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Anything is possible. The thing is that that value isn't fleeting. A good man is a good man. He's not a good man for anything specific, he's just good. There is no urgency to seize that value unless that value is sought after by others. Like you said here: they always showed appreciation for me conditionally That's someone who wants something from you. Some women can definitely see a good man and appreciate it, or want him for themselves. Those women will be very nice to you and stay near you. B…
/r/MensRights26/01/26 08:39 PM
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Not sure they care. The current dynamic still seems structured around the idea that men are going to be gone. If every man is expected to act like a father, the father in the house means less, if government assistance is mainly for women, men who aren't exemplary are easily replaced. Better paternity rights is just to potentially make more cannon fodder. It's not really for men as much as it is an initiative to get men (and women) to do what they want. If men alone are still seen as garbage and …
/r/MensRights26/01/26 08:27 PM
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To a lot of people I've met. Provider > Father. I think that's an issue we need to tackle soon. Because people are probably going to agree that a father is good, but they likely require the provisions from them before they'll ever give him any respect as a father. Think of most custody issues men have, courting, how men are spoken of publicly. I don't need a man until I need one to provide a seat on a train, carry my bag, help me fight stuff, fix something, etc. Men aren't people first, they're …
/r/MensRights26/01/26 07:36 PM
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There are typically vocabulary gymnastics that come with this problem. Males can (anything applicable), but a man doesn't (same thing). Followed by, I'm attracted to MEN. This usually ostracizes males from men. And even masculinity from males, gesturing toward the idea that, you can do whatever you want but I'm not going to respect you or be attracted to you for it. ... The same stuff slut walks and "sex work is work" seems to aim at destroying for critique towards women. Same as how housework i…
/r/MensRights24/01/26 05:35 PM
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It's likely never going to change. Misandry means nothing to society. Misogyny is basically a word that some groups force men to prove they're not. Even in every day speech, men make sure to word themselves carefully and other people will drop in randomly and correct him if he even thinks of straying. A misandrist? Nothing. You can easily tell which is more important to society by how often you see one side try not to look misogynist, while the other makes no effort to appear less misandrist. Mi…
/r/MensRights24/01/26 05:06 PM
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The closest to a feminist sub I went to was purple pill debate. Got banned from there in like 10 days. No warning, no message. But yeah, I end up talking differently in order to be approached differently, so if it'll work, go for it. I don't know if it does or not, I just do it out of habit now.
/r/MensRights23/01/26 11:48 PM
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Nah I should read it all before I reply. That's on me. Everyone is different, don't change for me.
/r/MensRights23/01/26 11:06 PM
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I agree. I was simply pointing at the idea that none of them were criticized or challenged for their catalystic influence being due to a relative... But to also provoke the thought that if that is a reactive thought in their heart if women's well being were on the table, then they should reflect on that double standard in how they deliberate. (Nevermind, I wrote that before I got to the bottom... You clearly get it.) There are likely men who were familiar with the hurdles to jump just to show th…
/r/MensRights23/01/26 10:46 PM
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I don't think it needs to be that complicated. First, please understand I'm not trying to trivialize men's needs. Now, a lot of it is in pursuit of a reward. The stoicism and "masochism" is only really to get a positive response. If guys could cry and get somewhere socially, you don't think more guys would cry? If they could hide behind someone when danger is afoot and still be accepted, you don't think they would? You don't think a bunch of Ukrainian men would love to tell the swarming vans "No…
/r/MensRights23/01/26 10:35 PM
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I'm a man, ignore my reply if you need to. There were a few responses that I saw, like "I have a son" or "I have a brother", and they reminded me of how many men got insulted for saying the equivalent in the early days of mainstream feminism. "You need to know the woman before you care?", and things of that nature. Notice how that response hasn't come to you. Ultimately there was a demand that all women be seen and protected, and I do ultimately hope that those of you who only care about it for …
/r/MensRights23/01/26 09:12 PM
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Even if they were emotionally intelligent. It is actually worse if they are. How many men get their feelings hurt when approaching women, when sharing their deepest emotions, when confiding in them, or even if not? How many "emotionally intelligent" women are lacing the entire internet with things that emotionally hurt people who they've never even met. Talking shit on men on mental health month, day? Shitting on incels nonstop while knowing most are just mad they're alone? Making light of men's…
/r/MensRights23/01/26 08:52 PM
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By my own understanding, the red pill is basically a philosophy of doing what needs to be done to improve yourself and be naturally attractive. It likely ends up looking completely misogynistic because it's essentially is presented as a book of unlearning. "Women say they like or want this, maybe they do, but they don't respond to that, do this if you want them to respond." Saying that while providing various examples of women asking for things very many men have, yet are still alone, which is a…
/r/MensRights23/01/26 05:10 AM
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It's similar to women giving men grief over the idea that they CAN make children. Always fun when a childless woman makes sure you're aware of how awful it feels to have kids and that men should be grateful for it. I'm sure it is painful. But the entire world benefits from the extra life. Not just the man. Regardless, when women use "I'm on my period" or "I'm PMSing" as an excuse to be awful to you, it's clear they don't respect you. They could apologize in the same amount of words or less, but …
/r/MensRights23/01/26 04:15 AM
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I have no advice for you, I'm sorry... I can't do anything but throw popcorn. If the intent is to avert the "male gaze", how in the world is allowing women in free of an age group that starts at Epstein, approved? Is women's (and girl's) health the only health they care about? It's sounds just like the nightclub scene but for little girls too. Men have to be 55 to get in free... Why? More importantly, why are you charging kids (boys too!) at all to have somewhere to be instead of being somewhere…
/r/MensRights22/01/26 03:36 PM
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Like GobthraukGoonsgrinIX said... Men get criticized for liking boobs and shapely attractive women, while the bear sex crap in Baldur's Gate 3 was some of the most wildly supported shit? The hypocrisy even inside the same medium is insane. When we do things like that, or when devs put crap into games and nexusmods says hey, removing the stuff you don't like in the game is now forbidden, we enter a state of unnecessary control that basically reduces games media to signal boosting. Why is bear sex…
/r/MensRights22/01/26 03:03 PM
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I can't really say I see women as bitches... But what I will say is that I typically feel like a parent who is being buttered up by their child. Seeing society run around at large and eventually come your way on a rainy day or when no one else will play with them feels very empty. There's this idea that you should be happy they came around at least, but getting called when the party is over never feels the same as being called to the party. Overall, if I were to blame anything, it's how our inte…
/r/MensRights22/01/26 07:07 AM
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I get you. There is always going to be unseen and unspoken jealousy as a man. If you were allowed the stage to cry, voice your grievances, pains, insecurities, woes, and feelings, could he? It's is an unfortunate fact that men's positive representation is typically by the individual and not the group, unlike how negativity is grafted onto men. For example, Tate is bad, so the Manosphere is bad. Scott Galloway is "good", but the group doesn't benefit from that, only Scott. So you having the abili…
/r/MensRights21/01/26 08:09 PM
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It's pretty awful if you think about it. If you can spare your child from that as a parent, relatives, the babysitter or teachers will get him, if not that, the women will get him... Maybe the police. Someone is going to hurt your boy eventually and not even care. They might even respond more negatively if he acts as he should and be incredibly irate that he's being treated differently. You're nothing special... That's men's message. It's usually up to a woman to get a guy by being the only pers…
/r/MensRights21/01/26 07:05 AM
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Maybe. I think the bigger issue is how quickly men are taught that nobody cares. Men cry, lose, fail, get cheated on, disrespected, underperform, etc? Nobody cares. Women aren't raised that way, so they publicize their losses a lot more, and their faults are spread to society and everyone is encouraged to interfere with things that put women in unfavorable circumstances. Ultimately because of that, men have likely learned to protect themselves because no one else will. While women are raised wit…
/r/MensRights21/01/26 04:13 AM
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If they separated their issues I'm almost sure they'd get engagement that challenges their opinions. But by her own admission: So when men start experiencing some of the things AND MORE I listed above, over the course of thousands of years, then we can BEGIN to compare the male experience to the female. But until then, men have it beyond easy and my mind will never be changed on that. She wants your experience to be worse, for thousands of years before she'll begin to hear your case. So it's the…
/r/MensRights20/01/26 04:45 PM
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I don't think it's victim blaming as much as it is just someone more reasonable thinking than someone not, having already made their choice. We say hindsight is 20 20. If someone who decided to take "VTO" didn't off the people who made them feel that way, it ultimately feels to those on the outside that they respect those people more than they respect themselves and their own life. I'll speak for myself when I say that shouldn't be the case. I can't call them dumb, they probably don't know how l…
/r/MensRights20/01/26 04:33 PM
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I think it'll never fix until women actually feel equal. Something in the back of my mind is kind of screaming that women who do well feel like men can always do better, so they typically want a man who does. For example, if we're both losers, but I feel like a bigger loser than you and I make it. I'm expecting you to slingshot past me and do better than me. To that effect, a woman like that may assume her match is above her instead of equal or below. It's kind of annoying... Because it perpetua…
/r/MensRights20/01/26 05:22 AM
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It's kind of like when two people have a bad day, and instead of be able to acknowledge both days suck, they spend time trying to find out which day was worse, and that takes priority forever. You really can't talk to people who do that. You'll just be listening, and while listening is a good quality, it shouldn't be something only one side is responsible for doing. It's tiresome. It reminds me of school. When there's such a long line to do something and the teacher ensures you that you'll get a…
/r/MensRights17/01/26 07:58 PM
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I agree. But there's always this idea that men are bad and no one wants to give them a stage. Women obviously also have bad eggs. But... Women are wonderful! So that usually is enough to allow all of them to take the stage. You ever wonder how the idea that giving people the opportunity to tell on themselves also shares space with the idea that certain people don't deserve a platform? Shouldn't everyone have a platform even if it is for the sake of categorizing who is actually worth listening to…
/r/MensRights17/01/26 07:47 PM
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Being a better person for the sake of people who don't even respect you seems like a really... Optimistic way to look at a situation. If someone doesn't like me, I'm not going to talk to them unless someone I think is important could be listening. Men used to weather the storm because they typically had a family at home or someone they could confide in that made it more suitable to endure. I think that's why it is very hard for people to do things for the sake of themselves. There are a lot of t…
/r/MensRights17/01/26 07:38 PM
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Personally no. There are a lot of synthetic things in life people can do to alleviate the stress of not fitting in naturally. Paying for attention isn't something I'd do. And there is a creeping essence of "look what you're doing to not feel like a failure" that exists with it. If I don't agree with something, I'm not going to support it if it isn't also the best deal. (For example, not particularly fond of Amazon, but I do buy from them if they're the best deal).
/r/MensRights17/01/26 06:39 PM
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You know how when men complain about the patriarchy there are a bunch of "who built the system" responses. Who took those people in? Who dated them? Why do you think posting poor choices in a thread about poor choices is a valid response? You are basically posting examples of people we agree are not okay doing that, right? I posted people who did things just like that, and you're still not making any mention to whether of not that's okay. I feel like you took my post as a suggestion that maybe g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 05:14 PM
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My brain read this as flirting and I got excited... But filtering is more of a gatekeep than an actual filter. You see the online questionaires that people get online. "A rich man who says yes 100%, or a good man who says no 80% of the time?" or "A rich man who provides for you but is always gone, or a good man who can't always provide but is always there?" Obviously the answers could be staged, but the framing here is not about good or bad, but the type of man who gets to treat them poorly or b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 04:40 PM
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I never really liked to hear it. The women's problems were real, but when I was in a position where I heard women talk like this, it was because they couldn't care less about how we felt about them. They could kick and scream about men because none of us was what they wanted. Some weren't out to be dated, they just wanted to feel special. It was kind of funny to us guys when we saw women like that because it was clearly a one way street. I know the takeaway is that they sound eerily similar to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:12 AM
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It's all about who wants it more. Those performative men clearly want it even after it's hit the floor, got covered in waste, and then pressed flat. If those women wised up? Would you want them? I know I wouldn't. When you give people what they want, they show you who they are. They don't really change, just learn. My first serious girlfriend said she loved to fight. But that wasn't the whole truth. She loved to win. She loved when I would get confused, try to figure out what's wrong, and spend …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:45 AM
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gets into a situation where people want to change the space for them rather than just enjoy things as they were intended. I definitely agree that that's bad. The Anita Sarkeesians of society do ruin the space, and as you mention, Gillette trying to pander despite being owned by Proctor and Gamble, which also owns always, venus, olay, pantene, herbal essence and other typically female focused brands. But it shouldn't be generally discouraged. It wasn't before during the age where tomboys were coo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:31 PM
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D&D is fun the one time I played. My friends let me make a high combat high skill character with half roll persuasion and luck checks. I'm sure you'll have fun. They'll let you do anything if you make fair compromises.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:55 PM
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I think something you didn't mention is time... I guess stating you wait to have sex is that, but guys hear that and still have sex. I think guys who only want to get into your pants are going to be off put to you taking too long. But you also can't be the type that has sex with other people while this vetting is happening. Genuinely, if a nice girl isn't trying to make me buy a bunch of crap and we genuinely enjoy each other's company, it could take a while and I'd be fine with it. I think it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:30 PM
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I grew up in times where girls joining in on what guys like, and the reverse, were the biggest green flags ever. Guy at a silly tea party? Gold. Girls joining a Yu-Gi-Oh! Game, gold. I think the general thing is that some people want to control the space. Saying men have unrealistic expectations in their media while the female equivalent of that is reading material that is literally animorphic, gets into a situation where people want to change the space for them rather than just enjoy things as …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:10 PM
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A little bit of me wonders how much different this debate would have gone if the term "nice guy" wasn't a part of the conversation. There generally are responses that feel entirely motivated by the term and not the genuine lack of appreciation people who do nice things get.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:01 PM
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Everyone lies to avoid rejection... Do you know how late "I have kids" comes up in dating? Or as you said in a different post "I don't want kids". but because we didn't ask the question, them not offering up information technically "isn't lying" See the part above the quoted indentation. It's like you're asking me for the master code. If any of us knew it, do you think we'd be here? I don't know how you find out what you need without putting off men. But if you're MORE worried about having your …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:47 PM
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Some of the most vulnerable people I've ever met in my life fit into this category. They did so much nice shit that no one appreciated and when someone did, they were so happy. I think they think there is a reductive incentive to doing this. If the "bare minimum" is droned on about when people do something nice, they'll supposedly try to do better to escape that prison. But if you get the same response pass or fail, why try? Just put your name on the paper and turn it in. Fuck it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:10 PM
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A liar is going to lie no matter how you go about it... You looking for a liar upsets honest people and puts the burden on them to understand what you're doing. And the worst part is, you probably still didn't uncover the liar because the liar is probably prepared to answer questions like this. Besides, most vetting is bullshit like standing in front of a door or seat waiting for it to be opened, or ordering outlandish things to see if he's going to pay. Again, this will be a much shorter conver…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:04 PM
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Telling you things not to do that you might not even do seems like such a backwards way to have a conversation. Shit tests do suck, all of them. They're disrespectful under a guise of seeing how you'd react, or disguised as questions that condemn him for honest answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:53 PM
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I think providing examples to clear the air about what you're categorizing as vetting would help a lot...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:37 PM
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You're never going to convince someone that misogynists in general aren't misogynists... But honestly it's the same way men get called incels, predators, misogynists and whatever else as a response to what they say. I know it sounds like a nothing burger, but I do think some people do need you to point out the difference in order for them to understand the "misogynists" you're talking about. Do they truly believe what they say about those men while applying those driveby insults to them? Don't k…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:05 PM
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Men are practically forced to be that way. Most male groups are considered bad. They have to stand outside of those groups constantly just to allow the possibility of an accurate opinion to be made about them. Think of how hard people try to categorize men. Which way do they lean politically, what's their astrological sign, their religion, age, race, height, economical status, is he single or married, do they consume pill content, let's ask him some hypothetical shit and see what he says. Is he …
/r/MensRights15/01/26 08:10 AM
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I guess a more fitting and assisting argument is, why aren't women shamed for cheating on their military husbands? Why are female Ukrainian refugees screwing around with other people? (if they're in a relationship). These people are, in one way or another, defending their women. Something that seems to be missing here, is how many men prevent things like that happening just from being present. If you factor that in, then he already wasn't man enough to prevent the encounter entirely simply from …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:39 AM
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It's an everybody problem. But I'm not sure it's an issue people care to solve. Conceptually, a lobby or living room situation where people were encouraged, or required, to share space would allow people more opportunities to become more fond of each other... Or resent each other if they prefer the current system. Obviously situations exist already that allow us the ability and freedom to interact with each other. But in essence we have gatekept that interactivity by proactively prohibiting DMs …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:50 AM
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Well I try to take a more business approach. If you act sour, you can't be upset when given sour feedback. But if you're diplomatic, getting sour feedback is unprovoked. For me at least, I don't want to piss off Godzilla and have it smash the city. I care about how I'm perceived and having somebody go Neuclear in my circumference is going to have me feel some way about it. If I was guilty, I'm going to hesitate in defending myself. If I'm not guilty at all, I'm responding immediately. I know oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 04:23 PM
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Describing friend zone would exclusively be awkwardness born from the idea that someone is assuming you're not responsible enough to handle your own, correct or not, attraction to someone. If I think someone is attracted to me and refuse to hang out with them alone, won't be alone with them anywhere, or purposefully ignore discussions but make them feel like it's exclusively their fault for becoming distant over time, that is a friend zone. There's this weird communication of "you can leave if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:59 AM
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You're not wrong at all. But it's sadly something that some men don't notice. Trying too hard is obvious, but it's very hard not to if you don't want who you want, to be somewhere else. Now I'm not talking Virgin Mary here, but the idea that a girl you like is still running around when you hope she hears you banging on the triangle to come home, fucking sucks. Being attracted to a woman isn't attractive to a woman. It's like a hard credit check. You're taking a score loss for potential gain. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:05 AM
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No true Scotsman huh... So you're trying to defend the inability to use the term with the idea that toxic friendships are still friendships? Don't you think that's an oversight you would have thought to not make? I can use Google AI to define words just as much as I could use urban dictionary to do the same. There are several interpretations of the term and it's all over the place and always has been. Trying to reduce the term to unrequited feeling and just a harmless mismatch of emotion is obvi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 03:54 AM
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Be more concise or begone dude.
/r/MensRights14/01/26 03:12 AM
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Underestimating how petty someone is is what everyone usually falls to. At the end of the day I'm not even sure she needed to fight. Hearing Anna talk about unpaid labor, her specifically (with no regard to her husband at all) not wanting children, and calling her husband a couch surfer (he isn't) is just peak feminist speak and self defeating. If women defend THAT, then they're saying more than they need to say. Obviously people came or watched to see her get torn apart... But it really didn't …
/r/MensRights14/01/26 03:09 AM
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Do I need to show you a mirror? Or the door?
/r/MensRights14/01/26 02:22 AM
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I don't think it would make it that much better. Think about it like this, some women have made it perfectly clear that their liberties have emancipated them from men. I'd imagine there are a few stragglers who feel they aren't making quite enough to shed the robes of tradition. But if they did, they would. Think about a lot of discourse towards men that is led by: We don't need you. So I do still feel like we're running a race backwards and it feels like a normal race only because we never did …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:21 AM
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The "friend zone" is just friendship thru the lens of a belief that friendship is an insult. Not a real thing, just a projected viewpoint. Js. We're not doing this... I feel like you decided to stamp this on a bill that would otherwise be passed. This shit is getting vetoed. Look. I've known women who weren't single who treated me better than any single woman who wasn't interested ever has. It is very outlandish to introduce the possibility that somebody is actually being your friend and treatin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:06 AM
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You really can't. Because it's not a nice guy paradox as much as it is a value paradox. A man doesn't get valued by society. I remember when I was younger I could literally post my email and phone number online and nobody would call or contact it except for the person it was intended for. We all know what would happen if a woman did the same thing. And this isn't to say men aren't valuable, I'm sure there are a few women who would at least testify to that, but some of those same women, maybe all…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:57 AM
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There's probably a sunk cost fallacy factor here that breeds behavior like this. There are a lot of men buying into being whipped into shape, and if societies ettiquettes are factored into that. Spending money typically means value is being exchanged. The placebo being sold and the potential to sell more of that placebo leads to that behavior. I think there was someone who publicized the first moments of Tate's class, and it was just as demeaning. Psychologically, as a paying customer and as som…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:34 AM
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I hear you. But when we hear women bray on about things, patriarchy comes up a helluva lot more than capitalism. I literally don't care about the definition. I care about the implication and how it has been used in the same way you would hold someone religious to a religious standard. Because they supposedly practice it and should be familiar with it so they should act in regard to its existence. You're wasting your time.
/r/MensRights14/01/26 01:21 AM
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Smh. All I'm saying is that by having so many people trying to help them dodge accountability, they're inevitably admitting that they're benefitting from a system they supposedly despise and wish to dismantle. At that point, does it even matter what nuanced definition of patriarchy could be provided to satisfy your query?
/r/MensRights14/01/26 01:00 AM
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So what is this now? Are we blaming the patriarchy for blindly believing women's rape allegations? What post-game optional boss battle is this? Like... I don't even want to fight it I just want to leave it there and show people because the fact it is even considered leaves a lot of the bullshit fallacies embraced by women out for some serious critique... Believe all women and metoo exist under the patriarchy and are typically supported and enforced. So false accusations being blamed on the villa…
/r/MensRights14/01/26 12:25 AM
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I think there is an infrastructure problem we don't really address. Social media as an idea should feel social... But as the days go on it seems like it was designed to brag. People showing you things you can't afford, gaining insane popularity by always having first access to technology. Nothing is wrong with that by itself, but the grade of discourse on other platforms leaves a lot to be desired. Replying to other commenters on other platforms doesn't link under the comment after the first one…
/r/MensRights14/01/26 12:00 AM
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Misandry holds the wrong men accountable... Nothing nicer than having some random person have an outburst about what some small handful of men have done. It's almost normal now to have some random girl object with some gotcha about men being bad and men moving on as if it was just an ambulance, loud train, or police siren passing by. Nobody taught these women about the effects of crying wolf it seems...
/r/MensRights13/01/26 11:44 PM
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Because men are the bad character to women who enjoy it. It's like people who blindly bet on the underdog getting their payoff. They always wanted to win and seeing someone else win like them is grand and inspiring, even if it's literally done to keep them interested. In real life abuse toward men is always seen as deserved. So seeing the establishment crumble for men is always going to look good. You watch as women and children turn to women and girls. Little boys getting raped by teachers. I'm…
/r/MensRights13/01/26 03:53 PM
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Unfortunately it's bigger than sex. It's an investment. Think about loans. Most people only give you a loan when you have something worth betting against. Do you make enough money they can squeeze out of you for not knowing any better, or do you have assets they can seize if you default? If you don't have those things, now you've got to try to get it by proving your assets. Show them your house, your car, your portfolio, family assets, employment etc. Make them want something you have access to.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:30 PM
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The worst thing a liar can do for themselves is tell the truth... Because if you knew who a liar truly was, would you respect them? My personal opinion is that general advice from women sounds more like fitness advice. "Don't give up, do your best, keep going, failure is only failure if you stop trying." But in application the shit sounds weird. When someone says no, you literally need to give up or you don't respect their decision-making. Women kind of tell the truth backwards like they do comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:53 PM
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... How's the air in that bubble of yours? Ignoring people's experience and the negative actions like how repulsed women with expectations like this get with their own peers takes a special kind of person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:16 PM
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So why are women criticized for adjusting their expectations to economic reality, instead of questioning the system that has made average incomes insufficient for an average life? Because if I know that you being poor isn't your fault, I'm not going to get the ick or socially disqualify you as a person. When someone goes through a drive through or goes to the store, the thought process shouldn't be, look at all these plebeians, they should get a better job before I respect them as people. When m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:18 AM
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Stop it. Get some help.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 11:08 PM
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The opinion of feminism being the be all end all to rebuild society is such a groundhog idea. She's clearly been in that hole too damn long but it's a reality she believes. I don't know how receptive your wife is to questioning, or if asking why about any of it would trigger any spider senses... Maybe she could recommend you some feminist articles she really thinks would help "a friend" understand. And you could look it over and see what kind of rubber she's been chewing on. I'm not trying to st…
/r/MensRights12/01/26 09:54 PM
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As you say... Things that assist sexual or intimate needs are painfully gendered. People get shame for flesh lights and blow up dolls, but girls having their toys are pretty normal. I'd imagine it is assumed every man who wants a sex toy isn't a real man and I'd assume the same of AI. There is a thread here that has a lot of people saying that men are crazed and can't operate without gravitating to women... But when men get options that attempt to alleviate that desperation? The men who do it ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:42 PM
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Nah. I found old MGTOW content when I was a little out of high school and jobless. Girls hung out with me but no job or car was no bueno. So I was mad. It's not like they had a job or car... I might not be in that situation anymore but the burn is still there you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:14 PM
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Yikes... I know I'd say I wish I got some royalties on that patriarchy... Because whatever they're doing I'm not getting. I can't really tell you not to be a yes man... There is a lot of stuff you'd have to uncover she's likely not going to believe. And you'd probably be in a breakup over Barbie situation before you're finished. Gotta love being with someone you can't even talk to right? Living the dream! (This isn't a jab at you, but more just a realization that this is the stuff men in general…
/r/MensRights12/01/26 05:42 PM
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I never used a dating app... I was around when they were new and was around a bunch of girls who made sock accounts and made fun of men who made profiles on there. I didn't want to be that man and still don't. But online typically I've heard people discourage men having selfie photos and photos with friends, even specifically fish, and in my opinion it encourages this synthetic behavior that everyone is encouraged to believe is "intentional". They've coined the idea of you taking more profession…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:08 PM
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I think some women aren't aware of how powerful the word no is. It's a lot of reason why people seek closure so badly. Because a simple no is more damaging than, you're ugly, or you're not good in bed, or you've got the most obnoxious personality ever, or you're not attentive at all. Etc. The above gives reasoning to why rejection occured. A simple no could make you burn it all down and start over, but sometimes people think telling you what's wrong with you (to them) is more harmful to both of …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:47 PM
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Men can't be the prize until people appreciate them completely. Just relate it to gifts. If you get a gift, you can be happy you got anything, which most men are, but typically, opening the gift and seeing what it is brings the real appreciation. The same as going out. Women's disgust for going somewhere they don't want to go (despite not saying so) is only discovered after being brought there. The gift was being taken out, but under the wrap, was something they didn't want, and now you're in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:27 PM
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Yeah... There are a lot of wage gap enthusiasts or misandry kills arguments that basically exist only for the sake of getting your mic turned off or pivoting you to things they care about. I feel like men need to value other men more anyway. Back when I used to play games you used to make friends just from matching up with people a few times. Now you get nothing. If things were the way they are now, I'm not sure I'd even like video games honestly. Same with being online. We'd all have been frien…
/r/MensRights12/01/26 11:59 AM
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Good people lose in discussions like this... Because yes, if you're spoiling a truly good person, this is great and in the best case scenario they're spoiling you back. But typically the people demanding to be spoiled don't deserve to be spoiled, just like people who demand respect typically deserve it the least, and people who demand sex don't deserve it, and the people who bray that life isn't fair to others, are typically the people who make it unfair. There isn't a movement of people saying.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 11:17 AM
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I don't know... Sometimes people having an option makes them more attractive. Now, they CAN be obnoxious about it like the Tumblr girls were when BOBs (Battery operated boys) were a new thing, or they could just use it to be more stable and not feel feral about not being in a relationship. Men who know that there will at least be some entity that will reply to them with more than one word or an emoji, and in a timely fashion where it feels like they're not watching TV and need to wait until next…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 11:03 AM
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So what are you supposing by having zero value? You criticized me for buying things I like... But literally if I buy what I like, I can't have zero value unless I like literal garbage. That was why I wondered what kind of garbage you were buying to the point where your value would be ZERO. Now after this post it sounds like we're saying similar things. I never said I bought those things because women like them... But if you know where to shop, good clothes don't cost that much more than boring c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:33 AM
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Pointing out what women are looking for isn't saying I do it for them... Are you trying to go tit for tat or are you actually trying to talk about this shit. Let me know right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:20 AM
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Neither of us can confirm each other's experiences. I don't know how you display zero value unless you purposefully bought an unappealing car, clothes, soap, cologne, haircut, phone etc. If you do that, that's fine, but if I'm spending money on something I'm going to keep, it's going to be nice, or nice and cheap. For example, dress shirts used to cost me just a little bit more than T-shirts. Why would I buy the t-shirt? Same with shoes. Nonetheless, I'm happy your experience works for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:13 AM
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I think it's more of a situational thing. If you're in a similar situation (coworkers, classmates etc) my opinion of the idea is that you need to display features or traits that are special to stand out. Whether it be charisma, reliability, wealth, consistency, intelligence, or just being attractive. But if you're somewhere like a party or get together. It's different. You need to outwardly display your status. Whether it be projecting wealth, generosity, looking a certain way, having a high qua…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:04 AM
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I think it's an issue that points in both directions. For example. Let's say you want to split bills. Makes sense, you both have jobs, maybe make the same money. But now what makes her feel special? We don't express ourselves well enough to illustrate other things we do that will make up for the absence of those roles. If she doesn't cook or clean, regularly have sex with you or contribute to the bills nor take care of children if you have them, why are you with her? You could be friends instead…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 07:28 PM
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I think that our inequalities is what makes us ask for more. If asking a girl what she likes to do is a "date question" then now you're going to be in a situation where you need to be attracted to someone to make up for the fact that there is a possibility you two have nothing in common. If a girl values her time, answering some random guy's questions when if they weren't around, some more attractive person could be asking, making higher demands gives her a benefit to being inquired upon. If we …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:12 PM
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I wouldn't feel anything good unless she was some sort of celebrity or role model. If we were equals and she felt that way then I'd be put off. It's just like nobody likes to be the rebound. It also depends on what standards were lowered. If "nice family" or 6 figure salary or something like that was the lowered standard. I'd probably feel grateful. I can't just wake up with a nice family or wake up rich... So yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:29 AM
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I think an underlying issue is that women are very prepared to call out cheese. There are a lot of opportunities in a conversation for men to shoot their shot if they decide to be cheesy. And I think nice guys generally are people who basically raise the alarm of going for it. Natural is destroyed by "too easy" and the men who don't take that easy route get more respect from women because they're not taking the obvious path. I think that's why trying to upgrade friendships became "passive aggres…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:28 AM
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Not really... But when I've had girls do things for me, there were a few who wanted me to agree to tell everyone else a different story where I did whatever she initiated. So I'm not really sure I'd feel positively about it if I have to agree to some situation where I was starving and asked her. I don't think I'd mind at all if none of that were the case... But as a man there's always a long line of: Why is she doing this for me? Girls don't really do anything for me, questioning I'd have to wal…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:28 AM
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I don't know if I'd call it unhealthy as much as I'd call it... Untouchable. For example. Guys look at attractive women, or women in questionable poses or positions... Any woman can do that. So the engagement and the fantasy can be had without really requiring a specific type of person. Women in my opinion kind of flip. Men are all basically held to a standard where they stay respectable and respect women. But some women are into things that are alarming. Like, maybe I don't want to choke or sla…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:27 AM
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Smh... Friend zone isn't friendship. If it was, nobody would care. Friend zone is like bending forward to hug somebody. It's still a hug, but it's empty. It's like if you saw someone wanted to hang out with you, and you said... If I hang out with them, they might like me more and I don't want that. So you talk to them after the party instead. You get them excited that you'll be there when they do stuff, and you cancel for the same reason, or you come, but you hang out with everyone else more tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:26 AM
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I think the idea with this is more about the fact that if it's serious, you're going to have a lot more to compare him to than he is with you. Let's say you watch a lot of movies or play a lot of games. After you've done that, there are several intricacies that you'll consider and appreciate individually that you'll value separately. And someone with less experience will likely say, is this a good or bad movie or game? So the possibility of the guy looking at the woman as a complete package is h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:25 AM
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... I'm not sure how I feel answering this. There are a lot of women who send choosing signals. Stare at you awkwardly, use very specific language. My very first serious girlfriend was training to be a translator. The first phrase she wanted to teach me was "I love you" in Chinese. Obvious WTF situation right? So in that case, is me asking her out actually me asking her out? Or is it her asking me to ask her out by being really selective about the words she even cared to teach me? We need to sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:24 AM
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Do you understand how hot cold life is? The power of yes and no is not equal. No requires you to stop, and yes is an invitation to start or continue. The momentum of someone telling you yes and someone else telling you no isn't equal. If you asked both of your parents to do something, and one said yes, one said no. Who is more upset when they see you doing it? The one that said no. If you followed the person who says no, is the person who said yes ever going to be as upset as the person who said…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:24 AM
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... I can't really tell you. I want to be valued for who I am and less how I look, so I don't really care about physical attention as much. I don't really think as a tech dork that's something I'd ever actually get interest for. And for me, having someone who shares a bit of interests with me is way better than someone who likes something surface level. But it is slightly hypocritical for me to think that way, because I'd love if someone attractive shared my hobbies. If friends were still friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:24 AM
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I don't know if I'd call it unhealthy as much as I'd call it... Untouchable. For example. Guys look at attractive women, or women in questionable poses or positions... Any woman can do that. So the engagement and the fantasy can be had without really requiring a specific type of person. Women in my opinion kind of flip. Men are all basically held to a standard where they stay respectable and respect women. But some women are into things that are alarming. Like, maybe I don't want to choke or sla…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:12 AM
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I think an underlying issue is that women are very prepared to call out cheese. There are a lot of opportunities in a conversation for men to shoot their shot if they decide to be cheesy. And I think nice guys generally are people who basically raise the alarm of going for it. Natural is destroyed by "too easy" and the men who don't take that easy route get more respect from women because they're not taking the obvious path. I think that's why trying to upgrade friendships became "passive aggres…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:45 AM
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Long term is kind of irrelevant when dysfunction is the norm. If every woman you see is bad, you are expected to find the good in them. There don't seem to be enough women to promote healthy relationships. And when you're tasked to swipe instead of talk, the odds of you finding that out on a platform where people are encouraged to be visible, not viable, creates an atmosphere where everyone who pollutes is given encouragement, and people who don't, are given a pat on the back by people who are u…
/r/MensRights09/01/26 05:36 PM
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I think a more common parallel word to use is "fatigue". There are other prefixes that are followed with fatigue lately and I do think adding this to the list is more than appropriate. But it's work. If you get the same compensation for not doing exemplary as you do if you had, why would you strive for the same thing you'll get regardless? Chasing allegations to then chase obligations is the most asinine hierarchy of shit I've seen people expect to date. Men are expected to stomp through "predat…
/r/MensRights09/01/26 04:55 PM
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Men's groups don't actively fight women. Most of it seeks to understand what's going on and try to appeal to those sensibilities if they care to. Things like feminism and 4b is basically antethetical. They don't want to talk to men unless they're already on board. They want to exist like a plague and represent a "see what you did!?" to society. Most reasonable people who see these things are going to leave it where they find it. A big reason why 4B gets no attention is because of what it is. 4B …
/r/MensRights09/01/26 04:35 PM
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I think people might have needed to see a /s to understand it was a joke... So I'm going to do it for you. /s! Stand down!
/r/MensRights09/01/26 04:16 PM
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The constant "consent" stuff from you in this thread is extremely incel coded. I think Medusa has never seen a mirror... If the roles were reversed and a guy was saying gimme that neck, you need to give me what they got or you don't love me. He'd be the asshole immediately. There are plenty of men holding that in and it's still killing them.
/r/MensRights09/01/26 04:12 PM
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I don't think it's naivety they want as much as they want clear control. It's like the workplace. We treat you like crap but you better not tell anyone else. Even the next job hates to see it because they're going to do the same shit to you. Think of the times where someone pops in, says something you did they didn't like, and they NEVER talk to you again. They don't care about you, they care about the truth getting out and do not want to support you doing that.
/r/MensRights09/01/26 04:04 PM
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It's definitely enabled. It typically was useful to get people to believe them or care. But the problem usually goes over People's heads. If you know of a bad person, maybe call them out? Women have all of these bad people in their lives and instead of hey, here's a list of bad people, they're encouraged to hide it or put it on women only platforms like the TEA app. Assuming we're talking about intellectually capable people, why would you tell everyone but the people who can help you about bad p…
/r/MensRights09/01/26 03:38 PM
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They were alluded to the imbalance you're referencing in the media space. Where we say very often that women's character spotlight does not require men to be brought down... But it ends up happening anyway. To me, it's just like those table talk questions. What will you do if you ever win the lottery? What would you do if you had superpowers? You'll have to ignore all the "World peace" responses. But the point I'm trying to make here is that a power opportunity brings People's character into ful…
/r/MensRights09/01/26 02:48 PM
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It's working as intended... There are people in the gay community who are attracted to straight people and see it as the highest honor to "turn" one. There's also a growing trans community that will likely enjoy the desperation created by society. The goal is that you deserve nothing and that you take what's given to you. This is why male sex toys are frowned upon, why they don't want you looking at porn, why women have basically all the positivity support and acceptance groups, why you're raise…
/r/MensRights08/01/26 02:47 PM
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The people in women's groups think that's how it worked for us. Men's spaces were dismantled because they assumed we were doing bad things in there and that, "if we weren't doing anything bad, why can only certain people participate", so we let them in. It is not realized that it was mostly projection. Women didn't want men to have their own spaces because of what women would do if they had their own. Women were upset about something men were doing because they thought we would do the same thing…
/r/MensRights08/01/26 02:33 PM
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Do drugs or you're a square basically. I think the most off putting part is that if you defend people who don't inherently like or want to hang out with you, you're just pushing away the only people who will talk to you. But because of the stigma behind approaching, the pick me's of society and the simps are basically completely ostracized by that action. Because most men who willingly jump in the DMs with women know what they want, so when accused, it means nothing. And women jumping in the DMs…
/r/MensRights08/01/26 02:14 PM
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Wasn't there some mother in Italy who killed her husband because he didn't clean the table? At this point it's not about blame, we need to figure out what part of women's brains makes it where violating table manners is a crime worthy of the death penalty...
/r/MensRights08/01/26 01:43 AM
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When I used to use it the first thing I would do is look down at the likes. See how many thousand people liked a post literally designed for hatred and harm. People say it's not real, but women's hateful comments tend to get overwhelming amounts of positive reception... It's real hard to believe it's fake when you see how many people jump on it. If you made a video that got as much attention on YouTube as some of those comments do likes, you'd be fucking rich... That's why I can't use it anymore…
/r/MensRights08/01/26 01:39 AM
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"Why don't men open up" It always feels like there's like a tiered system for men. My man Men I'm attracted to Relatives Everyone else Number 1 switches in importance constantly depending on how much she respects who she's with. As far as they're concerned, two number 4s hurt each other. Because of a system number 4s made. I really don't know how I'd wear it. Telling others that people hurt you as a man is basically saying "here's my weakness", you'd be better off telling them a lie for the purp…
/r/MensRights08/01/26 01:16 AM
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There's an issue related to this... Like how there's a new expectation for women in the dating market, but for men it's the same. Men are doing more for less. But because it's framed as failure, the more they're doing is made to look like not enough, which is designed to shift blame. If men found women with a low bar, it suddenly becomes enough. But we don't want men travelling cross country to be happy. It's like the women you see online upset that you're using the internet and aren't working. …
/r/MensRights07/01/26 08:08 PM
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I think it's because our behavior is reflective of what we want and believe in. If we wanted to police women's opinion, silence, oppress and use them, we'd be just like them. "Keep working and worshipping us while we shit talk you over here"... It should be obvious we don't want that, so that isn't what happens.
/r/MensRights06/01/26 03:32 PM
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(hands on shoulder, smacking butt, maybe even giving a kiss on the cheek) Woah, Nelly! That's kind of progressively suggestive. And I'm not saying it's bad inherently, but if those are the only examples provided, you shouldn't do that until you get more used to hanging out. I can't tell you how to act, but if you progressively did those three things I'd feel a type of way. So... I personally wouldn't want that. The topic has never been that deep to me. Being yourself should be what you lead with…
/r/MensRights06/01/26 03:27 PM
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I think it's bigger than this. But you're not wrong at all. Sometimes when leaving the platform altogether is brought up, people shoot it down immediately as if we can't do two things at once. When men basically need to embrace practices such as ban evasion just to exist in places they had no intent on toxifying anyway, they're shown that being who they are is bad, and they need to change. They literally don't. For every every man who is banned for expressing themselves, there are likely multipl…
/r/MensRights06/01/26 01:35 PM
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Yeah... It's typically why you see a lot of people here don't give people shit for using sock accounts. I hate how quiet men need to be for literally no reason. "Why don't men open up?" BANNED. Amazing.
/r/MensRights05/01/26 03:17 PM
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"You won't be able to post or comment but you can still view and subscribe to it" Fuck off... I hate that part so much. Why would I silently support your stupid community if I can make my own? I swear to Jesus I better not ever get a following.
/r/MensRights05/01/26 03:15 PM
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It's in the same boat as "minorities can't be racist." There's this useless idea that oppressed people can't be oppressive. And I'm thinking just like the X people can't be racist idea, there are women who feel relatively similar to that. People don't realize how blind hate makes them. When you hate a group so much you excuse people's behavior when it's targeted at them. I'm surprised it hasn't joined the list of "X Fatigue" where people just categorize it as something they're so tired of hearin…
/r/MensRights04/01/26 01:39 PM
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None of that is going to work. Group think does a lot more damage to natural selection. If one girl says no in a group and the rest follow, people who might have considered you based on merit or effort now won't. Basically, you're fighting with a social standard. It definitely does feel like there is a financial barricade to finding a better, or new relationship if women are encouraged to demand it. Most men don't have enough money to keep trying with different women, and unlike women, may be fi…
/r/MensRights04/01/26 01:24 PM
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My dad used to always say "Mother's baby, Father's maybe" Where as a man, if you want something, you might get it, and it's another thing entirely if you can keep it, but as a woman, you're the maker. Mothers can decide to do whatever she wants with that baby, and a father is just along for the ride. Obviously he can be critical and essential to development, but as you see with relationship expectations, any man can fill that role, even to some points where women will say they want this man's ba…
/r/MensRights03/01/26 10:01 PM
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I always look at the likes first. And you see the brigade is behind this. 13,400 people agree with this clod. I'm more worried about how many people are willing to follow stupid rather than speak for themselves. Hypergamous behavior makes most of this absolutely moot. The more people like that have, the more they want. Inevitably, by that design, they're not bringing more to the table, they are bringing someone with more to the table.
/r/MensRights03/01/26 02:58 PM
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You should have seen the adolescence subreddit before it got banned for boosting. There were a lot of people talking about disowning their sons or never looking at their sons the same way again if they didn't share the message they wanted them to get from the film. Which was that boys were inherently monsters. It's Barbie for the third time apparently with this post. Where people just don't understand what is in a man's mind at all and assume that they're just built to destroy. So in their mind,…
/r/MensRights03/01/26 02:48 PM
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It's not about fathers failing. It's all about what people choose to listen to, and more importantly, why. I've had a conversation with my father and sister about this concerning my niece her daughter and his granddaughter. Religion is going to be a HUGE hurdle to maintain because it's a morality system that has no appearance of a payoff if you don't value the long term impact of your own choices. It also teaches you that there IS a payoff... But as a kid, you're taught things that don't payoff …
/r/MensRights03/01/26 02:29 PM
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It's stuff like this that makes you really give thought to why women are so good at dehumanizing people. If you're emboldened to delete your own kids, obviously ignoring and having no respect for the life of men is figuratively child's play. They don't even care about what comes out of themselves, why would they care about someone who came out of someone else?
/r/MensRights03/01/26 05:21 AM
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I think you're conflating things. Like I said earlier. If someone I trust says they're coming to get me, I'm not plan B-ing that shit from the set, I'm waiting. She likely just waited because he said he was coming. That's it. Nobody cares about what AAA is doing. Or that he was with his folks. He said he was coming. That's it. I assume she's worth just going to help, you assume not. Neither matters. If someone says they're coming in not assuming they're eating a full meal first.
/r/MensRights02/01/26 11:55 PM
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I understand that. But I also don't take 15 minutes to eat anything unless it was forged in the fires of Mordor. He could have slapped together the Scooby Dooest of sandwiches and went to her still. I don't know the story, I just know myself. If I was dealing with myself, I would easily be able to say that I fucked up. There's so much more to unpack in my opinion. Because she got her car jumped. Her idea of her man is likely diminished because he was tasked to come get her. Think of a child, if …
/r/MensRights02/01/26 11:38 PM
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I'm not a woman. But if I heard I'm on my way or something urgent like that, I'd just wait. But if they said I'd be there in an hour or two, I'd be trying to figure something out, or asking for help. One is trusting someone enough to wait, and another is trying to fix the issue myself or get help while I wait. I've been hungry before... Now if I was so hungry I can't see or stand, that's different. I don't know what his girlfriend is capable of. Maybe she could have figured it out, maybe she cou…
/r/MensRights02/01/26 11:22 PM
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There's this idea that fall guy men need to exist in girlboss media to demonstrate their excellence... I think it's also about perspective and discussion. If some random girl beats up a bunch of dudes on TV, it literally means nothing until people make it mean something. Adolescence Netflix didn't mean anything until people made it mean something. Those people are going to make it mean something whether or not we support it. Remember the Barbie movie? Where girls were trying to funnel their boyf…
/r/MensRights01/01/26 05:46 PM
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I don't know... There's a sort of hierarchical process that needs to be created. Men need to establish standards. Men with standards are not to be considered gay, sassy or anything. Men need to be believed, and everyone who disagrees needs to be criticized. Men who are harmed need to have other men intervene, remove the woman, and protect the man. Men who are in danger or in the custody of normal authorities need to be under witness of other men to document and ensure the situation remains de-es…
/r/MensRights01/01/26 09:28 AM
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There's so many times that men's worries or fears are completely disregarded when he doesn't fit in a box. In the back of my mind I'm thinking that these raped men don't count to these women because in their eyes they're not men. The same way the desires requests and even demands men have are ignored if they're not considered a man. Every female is a Lady or woman... But not every male is a man to them. They don't care about males, they care about men, because men are useful to them. Male loneli…
/r/MensRights01/01/26 09:02 AM
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"I don't want to teach you" is a sentence I heard a lot as a virgin man growing up. This has nothing to do with virtue, but the fact that women understand that they're a job. Work experience isn't virtuous either. My very first job, my mother told me to come in anyway even when I wasn't called back, I got to hear the female recruiter shout and insult me wholly based on my lack of experience. Then, I had a completely different recruiter give me a shot... Based on what? My school attendance. Not s…
/r/MensRights31/12/25 06:46 PM
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Why the motherfuck would you guys downvote this. I want to seriously know if you're all worth fighting for. If a couple downvotes brings this out of you... How is anyone ever supposed to believe that you actually care? If it takes 20 (at the time apparently 14) downvotes for you to switch tracks and motion to exit... Just go. I'll tell you right now that if that was enough to change everyone's mind here, we'd all be lined up at the pearly gates or slaving to get women to simply consider looking …
/r/MensRights31/12/25 06:15 PM
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I hope you understand how many women we can't even discuss properly with because they operate at that "level" full time. The male tears kill all men crowds? Yeah, good luck stopping that boat with logic. Essentially those are the people who lost or troubled women are getting behind and emulating. These are the same type of women who get up and attack men's mental health month, even on the day. Women can like what they like, just as we can, but there's absolutely no penalty to them being awful, w…
/r/MensRights31/12/25 04:19 PM
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Men would just get banned because women are a marginalized group according to reddit... That's the kind of be all end all. We're the lowest class and the women can just ride in on their chariots and throw junk at us, but if we throw the same stuff back, we're executed.
/r/MensRights31/12/25 03:44 PM
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I always wondered that. If someone cuts someone in line, they don't blame the person for long, they basically tally it up. Race, how they look, how much money it looks like they have, how they smell. And instead of attack the person, they attack other things. "Not all men but always a man" is a term used to loop the justification back to hating men. "Making it about you" is an effort to erase your testimony and villainize you for trying to escape the blanketed hatred. You're a suspect, you sit i…
/r/MensRights31/12/25 03:19 PM
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I think that points out the difference. They're there because they don't want to be challenged or to be changed. Men's groups typically exist because they get banned and shamed everywhere. When women post their stuff in here... We just say they're wrong, or are trying to apply one experience to everyone. When men go over there, they're treated like trolls who would say literally anything to get a response. There is no discourse. And that's probably why they like it there. It's just a little den …
/r/MensRights31/12/25 03:01 PM
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I think that's a platform problem too. Because as someone who plays games, having the occasional girl jump in the group with games like sims, second life, imvu, and later stuff like candy crush, was annoying, but there usually were people willing to have discourse around it. These new platforms are kind of built on gatekeeping. If you play games but don't consider yourself a gamer, you likely wouldn't join or socialize with groups you'd be compatible with. If you're not a girl, there are several…
/r/MensRights31/12/25 01:54 PM
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That's genuinely why we can't talk to each other. If the only responses that actually get any noteworthy positive reinforcement are negative, then it's highly likely that's the behavior that will stick. Just as guys will likely get a lot of positive reinforcement by being a blue boy or a simp. You pivot from the norm? Everyone who cares will have to hit the plus icon to see your opinion, and everyone who doesn't will do the same but just to bury your opinion as far as they can. Women's anger, in…
/r/MensRights31/12/25 03:04 AM
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This reminds me about a conversation I had with someone about how important it is to diversify the places we hear "No" from. To your point, if all women come together all the time, hearing a collective no means there is no possibility to get a chance. Like the pop the balloon videos, if one pop makes everyone pop, then one no ruins everything. It's why monopolies are such a bad thing. If that monopoly says no... That's it. Some men seem to know this situation on a sensory level, so they rightful…
/r/MensRights31/12/25 02:41 AM
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It's both. Name calling a Virgin is basically a check. Like if you scream slut or cunt, people who take offense to those words are likely to turn around first, and those terms apply to them the most usually as well. So women yelling and screaming virgin to whoever she thinks is one will either put him in the hot seat for being one, or just serve as defamatory language to make him feel bad about whatever provoked the word. But in my own experience. Virgin shaming was more than shaming. It was lik…
/r/MensRights31/12/25 02:22 AM
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When women insult honest work, there are memes like "back to work, wagee" and people who do work those jobs have overwhelming testimony of being mistreated, disregarded, and ignored when outsiders are promoted instead, it creates an atmosphere where there's very little value in having that employment if you want to live. Some dead end jobs also shift your schedule a lot and expect you to be available whenever they want. Men and young men alike don't have established households or families that e…
/r/MensRights28/12/25 08:28 PM
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Personally it's because the people most likely to follow a sign are lost. There is a large difference in getting something tangible from someone vs intangible. If you get money or an object, or something objective from someone, everything thereafter could be cushioned by the idea of "at least I got that from him" "at least he has a big penis" "at least she's hot" etc etc. Where if you want something intangible from them... You're never done getting it. You're not done getting love from someone a…
/r/MensRights28/12/25 04:25 PM
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I agree but it's not just dating. Interacting in general is garbage. I remember making friends just from speaking up. Getting DMs for my thoughts and making friends from that too. Someone nodding their head and approaching me after the conversation. Everyone is basically ashamed. "Can't have them think I like them like that" "can't look too thirsty for friends" meanwhile everyone is emboldened to say men gotta have this much money, drive this, live in that, "nobody talk to me" though. Not realiz…
/r/MensRights28/12/25 04:10 PM
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A lot of the world has become theatric. Things are done for display and impact, but not for the person who inspired the act. Just the performer, director and producer. I don't know where you could go to find appreciation from people who matter to you. It could be here, it could be outside. But the first person who needs to appreciate your deeds needs to be you. It's typically why people stop doing things. They're worth more than that, they deserve better. Everyone doesn't have the freedom to dec…
/r/MensRights25/12/25 09:51 AM
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I get where you're coming from but it's clearly not designed for men. It's kind of like blackmail. Once you do it, unless she "destroys the evidence", you're on the hook whenever she wants to put you there mistake or not. It definitely makes sense for the good of the child and to the government who would rather not do it. But as a man I definitely understand that if you have an Accidential child with someone who wants to embrace your mistake, it feels a certain type of way when you can't embrace…
/r/MensRights25/12/25 09:29 AM
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I don't think it's as widespread as women believe. In my opinion a lot of what people think misogyny is, is actually just people with rotten luck throwing popcorn and relishing in an opportunity to say bad things about someone they can't have. If they had an actual opportunity, I think they'd abandon those thoughts in the same way some of the less societally favored men's groups do when they find happiness. If all it takes is having a good woman of their own to change their mind, do they really …
/r/MensRights24/12/25 10:43 PM
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Seems like a conversation that should be started in multiple places and not just here. One side can't fix it. Both sides need to find people who are willing to be diplomatic and create and keep a community for the rest to follow. If every place is a warzone, where exactly is peace supposed to be had? There are a lot of reasonable people here... A helluva lot of good that does when they have to gather in an area that automatically gets them banned from specific areas. I don't frequent the enemy t…
/r/MensRights24/12/25 08:08 PM
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It's hard to open up when you're being attacked. Whether it be from people who don't think you're good enough to voice an opinion, scams that are from people or technology, or people who think their experiences with others will be what you do, and that your personal experiences with people like them are a downright lie. Don't believe your lying eyes... Believe mine. That's basically what the world tells you in a "do what I say not what I do" fashion. Men are tasked to watch the world fuck them a…
/r/MensRights23/12/25 01:18 PM
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Google will probably help you further, but typically the idea is avoiding the male gaze... By literally going to their bar. (Useless wordplay) I'd imagine if women wanted to enjoy the company of men but never have to worry about being seriously hit on by one, that's where they'd go. So they can have the attention of men without any implication of sex involved. Whereas if they went to a lesbian space, there is the potential to be hit on or make friends that have other motives. But I'm not a woman…
/r/MensRights21/12/25 12:58 PM
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I think smut is worse... The fabricated idea of this perfect person is created in your mind with the author's verbiage. The reason reading is great is because the author is explaining a situation or setting and your brain kind of does an AI enhancement of it. Inserting your own ideas and beliefs into an almost completely described aspect of perfection... Porn is just someone pretty or not pretty depending on what you're into, either being thrust into a bad situation, or a wishful circumstance wh…
/r/MensRights21/12/25 12:46 PM
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I mean obviously. Were they pretending they took the "Only one without sin may cast the first stone" approach? Anything that men liked before the liberation of homosexuality was insulted. If you weren't naturally stimulated by women and didnt leave it up to only them to quell those urges, you weren't a good man. I want to pivot a little here... Because while women were boasting about their B.O.B.s (Battery Operated Boys) men were just called insecure for being upset about it. But women are valid…
/r/MensRights21/12/25 12:27 PM
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I don't know... Some men know how to harness their issues, so having them motivates them to be better. But the people who don't or don't want to do it this way are kind of buried. I think the issue with coping is the same issue with having an argument with someone who "drops" conversations. They didn't actually drop it... It'll come back and you're going to have to deal with that shit like it's brand new. I know you can't just solve all your problems or none if us would be here. But for me, isol…
/r/MensRights21/12/25 03:08 AM
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I can only gauge it by the stuff my mother used to flip out about. Water on the counter Not eating fresh cooked food when it was hot. Going to the bathroom right after she cleaned the toilet. Putting a dish in the sink when the sink was empty. Leaving something on the floor after she cleaned it. Basically her issues were surrounded by her own toxic sense of accomplishment and a feeling that if it isn't spotless then nobody will believe she cleaned it... She ruined chores for us because she was N…
/r/MensRights21/12/25 02:50 AM
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If you want a fire to have a controlled flame... Use better fuel. I say that to imply that if men had a proper outlet, they would light the way she wants. She's basically attacking all the outlets for men expecting there to be a proper change... But all it's going to do is lead men to search for different fuel. Modern dating and romance is absolutely terrible and plenty expensive. But instead of fixing that interaction before turning off the feeders, she's wants the feeders off when there's nowh…
/r/MensRights20/12/25 04:42 PM
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Misandry is systemic. As it is, people don't call it misandry, but proceed to condemn and leer at every man just because he's a man, same as racism. In my opinion it's like this: Because every man is considered bad, women get to take free jabs at them. So every man is constantly hazed. Men are not aware of who is hurting women, so now men are basically infighting so the guilty party can confess and end the hazing. But nobody knows who these men are so they just hurt each other for nothing. The m…
/r/MensRights19/12/25 09:42 PM
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Love how reddit is all cool saying that marginalized people are the only people who need protecting, while sustaining systems that are designed to isolate people who have more in their minds and hearts than what they're constantly criticized for...
/r/MensRights18/12/25 09:00 PM
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If this isn't bait... If those men are still alive and you still have means to contact them... Why not be mean to people who have earned their guilt? That's what pissed me off with school shooters. Somebody hurt these people, but they killed OTHER people but let the ones who pushed them down that path live!? I'm sure reddit might put their foot thoroughly up my ass for saying something like that but it's by god honest... You have the power and will to judge the people who have done you wrong... …
/r/MensRights18/12/25 04:45 PM
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I guess me telling my friends to join into pictochat on their DS and proceeding to draw the fattest dick that could fit into the box was sharing intimate images. I don't get what happened to society. The quality and bandwidth went up. The technology got better, that's literally it. If we could have done that back then we would have did it too, didn't mean we hated women... What the hell is wrong with these people!? If you want kids to stop doing the next best thing, stop confiscating their game …
/r/MensRights18/12/25 11:51 AM
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I wonder how many boys will be scarred by being called a misogynist just because they don't know how to comminicate. When I was younger I definitely used to bother girls I liked. Whether it be stealing their pencil, not giving them the assignment if they're behind me, stepping on the back of their shoes in class if I'm behind them, covering their book when it's their turn to read or just being slightly more annoying than with my normal peers. None of that was because I hate women. But I feel lik…
/r/MensRights18/12/25 05:28 AM
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It always needs to be considered that this woman could have went and actually found a man, but she felt being in control and being a predator was a better deal.
/r/MensRights17/12/25 02:41 PM
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I'd imagine it's also a pushed concept to join things people are already bothered with from immigration onto them. Like tax burdens, criminals, people competing in the work pool, predators etc. But you see where they want them... On the battlefield, potentially dying. It should also reveal to you what they think of non immigrant men but probably can't say without pushback. Because I see regular men everywhere criticized for most of the same, but mostly by women.
/r/MensRights17/12/25 02:33 PM
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I don't think being a man should amount to how much you embrace masculinity. Masculinity is more about how you act and what you do rather than who you are. Men are already stuck only being worth their actions and chores without respecting the man behind the action. As to say a soldier is only respected during his service, but not after. And remember, some people are forced to be soldiers, also, men who are forced to act like men. Women get respect full stop no matter what they're doing or not do…
/r/MensRights17/12/25 01:15 PM
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No. Most men prefer real tits to fake, real butt to fake. And typically say that when asked, all the time. But women with fake butts and boobs exist. And some look alright with it, but not enough for me to point anyone in that direction. When guys are out there getting tall surgery because anything under 6'4 is out the door, that's a beauty standard, when women make videos playing with tape measure saying how they treat guys based on penis size, that's a beauty standard. When chubby or fat girls…
/r/MensRights17/12/25 08:19 AM
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Naturally. If expectations don't change, but the opportunities decrease. The people who have lost that opportunity need to try that much harder to meet those expectations. If men's inadequacies are created and sustained by poor economic conditions and those inadequacies are highlighted by women who can and often do want more than their equal, is it not a feminism problem? Yes, men can turn to themselves and build the same way women do. But men weren't raised to value a fellow man more than his u…
/r/MensRights17/12/25 07:44 AM
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Overwhelmingly so... I can't properly address how much of a drain it must be to basically leave natural instinct and attraction to an "on call" or "on demand" instead of feel comfortable in expressing how someone's presence can leave you emotionally brimming. If men can't emotionally or sexually express themselves, they're likely to try to do so with favors and deeds. Like athletes jumping over themselves just to see a twinkle from a talent scout's eye. Exactly what they want, just assholes and …
/r/MensRights16/12/25 10:26 PM
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I think this is why media is kind of messed up. I'd imagine most of those comments were from people who only clicked on it to see a woman kick ass. Doesn't matter how, doesn't matter why. I'd imagine "Female protagonist / female lead" media gets some attention off that alone. Look, I'll be the first to admit I used to do that a lot. Girl gamer, girl advocate, girl anything I like? Heck yeah, easy click! But the difference is that I didn't click on any of that to "stick it to the man" or anything…
/r/MensRights16/12/25 08:48 AM
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I love when people pick out one thing in your entire post and fight with that instead of the whole opinion. What? Are we coding? Did the rest of the code not get to you after you hit the one line that didn't work for you? Fuck all the way off, lady. "Yeah you did all that, I really don't care, bye... By the way, this is all your fault." I guess by always saying it's your fault you're supposed to want to fix it? But when it was up to you, you tried your best and it didn't work out, and somehow th…
/r/MensRights16/12/25 07:39 AM
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Oh I know. That's why the bottom bit was there. After they get tricked enough they'd probably be leery of regular people too. They will learn or suffer. But I think the problem is that we're telling people to learn, and not also getting that crap out of there. It's kind of like telling taxpayers to avoid the needles and poop rather than get rid of it. Yes, please avoid the needles and poop, but get that stuff out of there or what exactly am I paying for? It's so easy to flag and filter that stuf…
/r/MensRights14/12/25 09:10 PM
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It's kind of a sketchy business model. Sell crap and indulge in the fact that there are people who won't go through the trouble of reporting it... Profit. It's kind of an issue both men and women should join together and be upset about. If men get scammed enough they'll be so defensive that they won't be as enthusiastic toward actual people. Same for women. I can only imagine how much (some, I'd imagine the others are just greedy or relaying that experience) women gave up for free to come to the…
/r/MensRights14/12/25 07:51 PM
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I've never been interested in sex toys. No I'm not condemning anyone who is, I just have a different purpose for sex that was an unhealthy discovery. Having good sex has effects that make the relationship better, so actually wanting to have sex and conveying that physically serves a purpose that a toy might diminish. Personally... I remember all the conversations I used to have with women on forums in the early 2010s where people all were in the same place. Women would always reassure men that t…
/r/MensRights13/12/25 10:32 PM
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If it's anything like it was for me... Pedestalizing (the thing they supposedly hated) the same women who spent the majority of their high school years texting adult men who had money, a car, a job and even their own place is going to shatter their mind for a long time. Just (for imagery sake), lines of boys with flowers out and the girls are looking out the window comparing boyfriends with their peers. I don't know what kind of resentment women have for men or why... But men resent themselves f…
/r/MensRights13/12/25 10:17 PM
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I'm not sure. There's a lot of people and cases where people agree with you in private, but not in public. And I really don't think that ever amounts to anything. The people who agree with you on paper but don't do anything but stand on your toes when it counts don't help either. If you care enough about something to speak up about it, then it counts. This isn't some financial partnership where someone can still show their support in other ways. Lots of people are basically hung out to dry and t…
/r/MensRights13/12/25 10:09 PM
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It's so strange. I don't want to say it outright... But women told men they didn't need to be strong, or go to the gym, or worry about the tough guy in her DMs, and that it was okay to cry in front of them etc. Its going to get to a point where guys are just going to look at the most vocalized contradictions and say that they shouldn't have listened to them. Men would still be strong breadwinners who dictated the workplace and made enough more than them to still be considered a lifestyle upgrade…
/r/MensRights13/12/25 09:56 PM
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In my 20s I watched my mom give all of the money my dad was saving by being gone trucking, to the South African Prince scam. It was around the recession time (2010s) where very nice homes were 50k because they were foreclosed and the economy was pretty bad. We ended up being part of that statistic... And my mother, still not a princess, is to blame. So yeah... Things could have been way different. I don't know how not to be bitter about it honestly. I don't care as much as I used to. That wantin…
/r/MensRights12/12/25 11:35 AM
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I already made the point that people need to come to their own conclusions on whether or not to support feminism. Through your own willful ignorance to admit plainly. Your being a feminist, educating yourself and then abandoning it yourself only serves my point. You literally have done nothing but tell on yourself and prove my point. Feminists need to do their own homework and come to their own conclusions. We cannot help them learn anything. Just as I can't help you become less dense...
/r/MensRights12/12/25 10:19 AM
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You didn't challenge anything I've said except for the core and haven't done anything but challenge my opinion for the sake of... What exactly? I also cannot speak on a question you haven't answered... Answer the question first maybe.
/r/MensRights12/12/25 09:50 AM
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At the end of the day this is a facts vs feelings discussion. Think of it like this. In the comment chain you linked. When you were a feminist, what did you believe it was? I'd imagine it is comparable to the "The general ideal of feminism is not bad," that you quoted... The answer ultimately doesn't matter that much but it's to provoke the idea that there are likely many feminists that hold an ideal for what made them join. Criticism for the actions of it doesn't challenge the validity for them…
/r/MensRights12/12/25 09:37 AM
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I have to look at it religiously and idealistically. A lot of times people address the outcomes and outreach, even the expectations following it, people who are for it typically fight you for opposing the belief, rather than the application. The general ideal of feminism is not bad, and it's an idealization that they redirect your criticisms to in order to make you appear as some sort of oppressive sexist... It's kind of like the police. The idea and purpose of the police are not bad. But there …
/r/MensRights12/12/25 06:44 AM
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Well. With regards to "private messages" now being "chat"... I'd imagine the private nature of discussion has been destroyed and the idea of privacy being sustained allows them to get in on a medium that people still feel is private. So the mods probably are eyeing that pretty hard. And yeah... Typically when you get banned, your subreddit gets banned too. Stay safe and be careful. Do yourself a favor and don't entertain discussion with people who just want you gone. Block them and don't think t…
/r/MensRights11/12/25 07:22 PM
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I agree. I think I hate it more when they grab at you, stomach, arm, chest, etc. But they make distance between you if you even make a motion to respond in kind. Showing you that they know what they're doing is absolutely wrong because they clearly don't want you behaving that way even immediately after they did. I don't know what the endgame is. I'm sorry it happens to you.
/r/MensRights10/12/25 09:01 PM
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I mean there's a lot to unpack... Honestly, getting to the root of the problem and finding out what men need and making that easier to get is going to be a lot better than the reactive response of "Getting men the help they need" but it also reveals something people tend to gloss over. They really don't want to make anything easier for men. Dating is harder, owning property is harder, providing is harder, finding gainful employment is harder, making friends is harder, simply interacting with wom…
/r/MensRights10/12/25 08:54 PM
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Expectations... Men are expected to do things... Because incels are men and boys, not meeting those expectations by default makes them more of a failure than femcels. Women aren't expected to do anything. So femcels aren't seen as failures, they're just ugly or something... But it should make you think of this: How many women have you crushed on that you probably have never seen her real face, you might not even know what their real hair looks like. Let's double down. Take the above, and now als…
/r/MensRights10/12/25 08:27 PM
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Sexual violence is about power, entitlement, lack of empathy, impulse control issues, trauma histories, or sometimes compulsive disorders—not just sexual desire. But we can talk about the factors that reduce risk. I feel like if one person had more power and attraction to the other, there would be more cases than you are letting on. For example, female teachers are kind of surfacing doing this type of stuff, and if we ignore the men cheering it on, we also see a couple women who feel like loweri…
/r/MensRights09/12/25 12:51 PM
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I think I wouldn't like that term if it were adopted. For example, there are a lot of kids who suffer to a degree because the men cannot stand the woman. Those women are basically using the child to get to the man while also making the child feel like the father doesn't love them. There are also women who will shame men for not accepting children they never even spoke about until they were more serious. The man isn't trying to hurt the child, but the child becomes collateral damage. The reason w…
/r/MensRights09/12/25 12:21 PM
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I think the reason why is because most women view themselves and girls as pedestrian or as passengers, while they view men as drivers. As to say, when men are harmed, "they knew the dangers of being on the road" and make the motion for them to convince other drivers (men) to be more safe. As far as they're concerned, a non driver's impact on a driver is almost always non fatal, so when it is, it should be treated as an anomaly and handled separately... Though still untrue because they don't face…
/r/MensRights08/12/25 10:23 AM
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In an effort to not tarnish ideas that could (should) have been positive... I'll just say that giving power and authority to people who are not used to having it has effects... Like when we were kids and asked each other what we would do with a super power, and one of the group would say something painfully oppressive and we'd either make a double take or turn our heads like confused dogs. Turns out even adults don't think their actions have consequences. So those same kids that made us happy su…
/r/MensRights08/12/25 03:37 AM
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I think once they're married it's something they can't dig out of. Women being married and then messing up is like men getting sex early and then leaving the relationship but on a higher scale. One method is basically backed by law, and the other is just spoken against with shame. It's also like the women who genuinely want kids saying "yeah, I had a kid (or my last kid), I can get fat now" showing that the point of them being sexually attractive was a means to an end. And you kind of have to wo…
/r/MensRights08/12/25 03:21 AM
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1, you're not crazy... 2, women like sex. The issue here is that men are often not seen as attractive, and being with someone who isn't attractive is something that may socially damage your reputation. For example, let's say you like a certain body part a lot. Butt, boobs, thighs, lips, whatever. And this girl's got it, but she looks like Mr potato head with a wig. Physically, you (might) be happy sinking that putt every day. But socially, now you're the guy who took home Mr potato head. Since g…
/r/MensRights08/12/25 02:56 AM
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Well I don't do it to be right. More just to understand. People's opinion of me don't matter unless I'm after them, whether it be for friendship, aquaintanceship or more. Even when publicly arguing. I take the position of stabbing a sword into the ground. People who believe in what I say can stand by it, or abandon it if not. I'm usually not directly talking for the sake of coercing the person, but everyone seeing. It's like if you ever entertained someone who clearly isn't able to hold their ow…
/r/MensRights07/12/25 10:03 AM
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I don't really own a religion... But religious books remind me that evil is often born of weakness and fear. Because of this idea, when something ails me I ask myself "What am I afraid of?" Because getting rid of that will sap the evil intent from what I would do if encountered with the problem. It often helps me understand women. Since because of society's nudges, they operate from the assumption that they're weak. And weak people often use more than their hands. If women felt strong, they'd pr…
/r/MensRights07/12/25 09:36 AM
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Sometimes I wonder if trans men got what they wanted... No this isn't some hate speech crap. But I wonder what they thought was over here that wasn't where they were. If I was a woman I would never trade over, ever. So I'm painfully curious. The point of the above is also so we can figure out what women think men have that they don't. Do they think a little more muscle density and the ability to pee standing up and not having menstrual issues is this life hack that makes us some superior form of…
/r/MensRights07/12/25 09:22 AM
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Yeah I had the same from my mom. She gets irate, hits me, and then comes back later and tries to say we both need to say sorry so psychologically I feel bad even though I shouldn't and we both supposedly feel like we got what we deserved. Last straw was when I drank some of her orange juice. I bought her another of the same brand type and size, then took the one I drank from... For some reason she expected to have both and screamed about it as if I was supposed to give it back... She ran upstair…
/r/MensRights07/12/25 08:59 AM
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I think he misses the fact that women can be whatever they want and still remain women... While men, if their job, opinion, achievement or masculinity wavers, they are either doubted or denied their manhood by others. Even if not, they're trained to constantly approach the idea of "a real man". (He touches it almost 20 minutes in, but not for the sake of men). Reasonable opinions on sex. He kind of misses the fact that a missing man in the house passes the torch. That male child is now the man o…
/r/MensRights07/12/25 07:11 AM
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When the current expectation a woman has is that her man needs to match or exceed her earnings, and pay all the bills. Women investing in themselves effectively doubles their income. I'm not sure any of the women in the pursuit of the above care to take a paycut of at least half to bet on your hobbies paying off. Every thought of having to help you do anything but drain the venom from your fang will make ones like this see you as less of a man.
/r/MensRights06/12/25 08:48 PM
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It's unfair and inaccurate because just because I can doesn't mean I will, or even want to. It always feels like the general woman's opinion is that men are this entity that is built upon taking. And women are this sexual and emotional resource that men are taking from. When women speak of requirements for romance or even progressing a relationship, there is a precise level of gatekeeping that is casually made to monetize and pervert nature... There always feels like there is a tactful tether to…
/r/MensRights06/12/25 08:43 PM
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Male isolation is more of a respect for someone else's fear than anything else. Think like this: A child can be scared of something, rational or not, but if someone is aware of that fear and chooses to respect it, that something, if aware and able, may take their leave for the sake of the child not experiencing that fear from them. Men are essentially just respecting women's fear. But because a distinction refuses to be made about WHICH men provoke this fear... Men altogether just choose to leav…
/r/MensRights06/12/25 08:29 PM
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I don't think I'd care. I'd be gone. Even though it would be terrible, at the same time it would be the best thing that happened to us. The women can be whatever, and men will be extinct.
/r/MensRights06/12/25 08:21 PM
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I can't call it complaining as much as I can call it a testament to men. When everyone adds to it, and you see how much of it and how many men regulate the space in order to keep it peaceful... When speak against men of all ilk, and you remember to come here, it should serve to illustrate how Cherry-picked the issues are. When you talk to someone in person, even outside of a place with a current feed of regular people voicing their discomforts... You have a lot harder time having a valid place t…
/r/MensRights06/12/25 08:17 PM
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Men's value is basically their entire attraction. That unfortunately paints a narrow picture for men. As the fulfillment they have within themselves comes from the people they desire most caring about them. I don't see many men concerned with posting thirst traps in the same way women do for tacitity sake, while also humiliating men who misunderstand that it is a paradoxical invitation for the suitable, while nothing but a pedistal to be awed at quietly for everyone else. If it were more normali…
/r/MensRights06/12/25 07:58 PM
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That's a lot to read, even for me... But I'll just say this... If people cared about men, they'd probably care to have less of them. Less men means less men getting ripped off the street to fight, less men getting conscripted, less men being seen as awful, less men doing jobs that keep the world turning, less men to take care of families, etc. And I'm not saying this because I want less men, I don't. But just as we see online... When women want men back, they'll tell you exactly what they want y…
/r/MensRights02/12/25 10:05 AM
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I think it's less about social networks and more about investments. Men make the first step, risking their reputation and or job. They spend lengths of time trying to find out a good place to go that she'll like, spend money on it, and then do his best to remain calm and approachable during these times. They're expected to look a certain way, drive a certain class of car, own or rent a decent place, have enough money saved. A lot of things men are trained to do, men actually aren't doing for the…
/r/MensRights02/12/25 09:49 AM
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Yes and no. In my opinion the biggest issue with gender segregation is long term behavior and inequalities of work. For example. In an auto warehouse, I've seen situations where almost all women (as in, only one or two men) are designated to sort stations where they sort light, but small items in totes and make just as much money as the people who build pallets of heavy rotors and motor oil cases. The segregation should be for the purpose of not allowing sexism to be the reason why certain workl…
/r/MensRights02/12/25 09:37 AM
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Because everything we value, women get without asking... Their DMs are likely fuller than yours on your birthday, everyday, they get more matches than you, people run to give them a team lift, people come to their defense more than you, call them pretty, tell them they love them, knock out their wishlists, drive them around, listen to their problems, etc. What's left? Consistency. After those passerby guys realize that doing that stuff won't give them anything, they leave. So being live in secur…
/r/MensRights15/11/25 10:34 PM
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Assuming that her behavior is justified because she assumed you were "bad". You were a "bad" kid. How were you bad? You were just "bad". When someone you trust treats you like this, you don't assume they're stupid... You look inward and try to figure out what's wrong with you. What did you do? Nothing. There's so many "bad" men out there trying to figure out what they did wrong...
/r/MensRights15/11/25 10:20 PM
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Yep, men having sex is basically theft of innocence, and women having sex is seen as charity. Checks out even outside of the presented scope.
/r/MensRights15/11/25 10:14 PM
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I don't think it's accurate fully. And I don't think they see it how I do. Think about being a man. You can't cry, can't be passive aggressive, can't be petty or manipulative etc. So the "peaceful" options of expressing yourself are either grayed out or deemed "pussy". So what is the observed response? Men hitting something, looking like a boiling kettle with a lid on, or arguing with their bodies by "man splaining" etc. If you're a guy you are probably visibly fatigued by having the same argume…
/r/MensRights15/11/25 10:12 PM
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I don't think women really understand that men trade tangible things for sex and attention and that those tangible things mean a lot to us and we aren't ever given a guarantee of trading that effort, money, time or labor to get something. Yeah, some people can become angry about it, but others can just become cold, unhelpful etc... Its kind of sad... Because the same feminists who complain about unpaid labor are blind to the men who are identified as free favors. A free ride home, a free mover, …
/r/MensRights15/11/25 09:54 PM
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It's probably really difficult to give up the benefits of being a woman to make a point... Almost as if they realize they'd have to earn that treatment instead of demand it if they actually went for full equality. But I feel like they'd be unlikely to ever change because of things they seem to be interested in. Seeing everyone gang up on a guy you like and him still winning, or saying no to their dream guy so they can see how much he's willing to do for what they'd already want to give him. Imag…
/r/MensRights13/09/25 08:19 AM
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I don't think it's all want, but more because they know it's a trap. Like the old food tests people would give their dogs. Lay some food on a plate and walk away while remotely watching everything. It's only natural the dog wants the food, he's not supposed to take it, but he wants to and the only thing stopping him is respect for his owner. Most dogs fail the test, but they shouldn't be expected to pass. Men go through the same thing but the restraint and resistance isn't met with praise. So if…
/r/MensRights05/09/25 09:18 PM
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They're really not. The essence of "men bad women good" has just been becoming more toxic over time. If peer pressure and social expectations weren't in the way. Men would group up with men, and women would group up with women (we still do it, but before we would have also been friends). In the past, groups of dudes talking about sports or video games was normal, women talking about boys or accessories was normal too. When we would catch a glance at someone we were interested enough in, we would…
/r/MensRights03/09/25 07:56 PM
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When making male friends is seen as a cope, or your most vivid experiences of "friendship" is work or hobby related acquaintances that will shatter as soon as you don't share the same job or specific hobby they have, friendship feels like an effort to make mutual use seem like more than it really is. Why get used by a boy, if they could just be used by a girl, since they'd typically at least be attracted to that girl? Video games are falling off for similar reasons... Free to play games are stil…
/r/MensRights03/09/25 07:36 AM
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No... Here's the issue. If women cannot be trusted enough to make better long term decisions, then nothing men collectively do can change that. The biggest reason we were all fighting for women to have the clear ability to consent and work is so that they could choose men they actually like and marry men they want to marry. The men aren't to blame. Because if all the hot girls were doing the same thing and marrage and date rates were in the dumps, they wouldn't blame the women. If women wanted t…
/r/MensRights03/09/25 12:59 AM
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You can't. Let me explain. Think of women like managers or process assistants... Women complaining about men's performance is their job. If they spend all your money, they're going to tell you to go make more. Because it's not their job to self reflect. Their job is to tell you to be better. When you're better, then they'll complain about you not being with someone, and if you're that good, some people will still want to hitch a ride even if the car is full. Let's put a mirror on it. Let's say s…
/r/MensRights01/09/25 10:49 PM
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That necessity isn't a want. The world demands things of men... But makes no effort to make them want to. If women were demanded to have children, they'd feel the same way about their kids that we do about protecting and providing for people who don't care for us. "If he wanted to, he would" is dangerously inaccurate. If I like someone romantically, there are more reasons NOT to pursue them than TO pursue. Spoiling them, simping, caring too much, being too possessive, objectifying, etc are all p…
/r/MensRights30/08/25 03:16 AM
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Television didn't help. Even back in the Dexter's Lab days there were televised examples of boys being depicted having crushes (in season 1 for example, Dexter crushes on his babysitter, who states she wishes he was 10 years older... So he ages himself.) on older women and it being completely normalized. I'm sure there are more examples, but the issue is that those ideas didn't fall out of the sky. They were essentially one way ideas that supported the sexual aspect of attraction in a way where …
/r/MensRights30/08/25 02:32 AM
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Yes and no. In lawlessness I'd imagine some men would try to take advantage of women, but I'd assume women would do the same to men. But the reason why I say no is because if women know they're in danger, they're going to surround themselves with people who can protect them. Women already do that, not because they're unsafe, but because they don't want people they don't want talking to them to be able to. I know people will probably disagree, but an example is pregnant women. Pregnant women have…
/r/MensRights28/08/25 09:43 PM
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Given the Epstein list is still something people don't want to talk about or openly publicize... I'm going to maintain my opinion that there are people at the top behaving in this "pussywhipped loser" manner. The Duluth model and other processes were designed to make women safe... From you, not them. That's why I led with a meme quote widely used to illustrate people being down bad. Those "losers" likely pushed the laws. If for no other reason, why would a man want a woman to serve a lesser sent…
/r/MensRights22/08/25 11:13 PM
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To extrapolate, I'll use an example of the meme of an attractive man and a less than acceptable man saying hello and the response being different based on that attraction. The point can be made that even the less desirable women are given the opportunity to behave with privilege. It also points out that the men involved have more patience for these women than they would for them even in a circumstance where a simple greeting was the catalyst for being offended.
/r/MensRights22/08/25 05:35 PM
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You couldn't be more right. When thinking about what you said, what came up was that because we have so many gendered spaces where people actually talk about what's important to them, the dominance of one gender's importance in the media creates a situation where even though it needs to be the message that is pushed, as long as the people at or near the top are of the opinion of "It should have been me, not him... It's not fair!", that message won't change. Think of how little men's rights would…
/r/MensRights22/08/25 05:04 PM
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I genuinely think about what the sexual assault numbers would really look like if men in situations like this would report it... I wish we just knew so that one side wouldn't feel like they're the only people this happens to and use it to whataboutism their way out of honest discussion. We really should be talking about this together, but it doesn't seem like it'll ever happen on a platform where discussion is the main goal and not just visibility. Thank you for chiming in!
/r/MensRights22/08/25 04:07 PM
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I think a factor is that we attribute struggles women have as obstacles that we are taught to not assume or question outright, but to give grace for. Whether it be cramps, periods, menopause, pregnancy, and other things we can just call girl problems, we simply dismiss or they tell us outright to dissolve our ire. While men aren't having those issues, women aren't likely to ALWAYS be having their issues, but they always get the grace. And men often NEVER get any. Men's struggles are typically at…
/r/MensRights22/08/25 03:09 PM
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It's complicated... I get how you feel and you're absolutely right, but... I'll paint an ideal picture for you, which is how things went when social interaction was better. For example, when men and women actually led with some common ground, a woman who held common interest with a group of men was highly sought after and respected, and guys would basically bicker or brawl to figure out who would be the person or persons to date this special woman. From the girl next door to the resident tomboy,…
/r/MensRights21/08/25 09:31 AM
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There's so many men directly involved defending this behavior. Why? Her brother and father, the victim himself being upset with his father for being taken advantage of. Nothing about being a sex offender for life, how harmful or traumatizing that is. They're simply platforming it and delivering it in a way, uncontested, where a man is speaking as if being propositioned as a preteen and having sex as a teen (with an ADULT, ILLEGALLY!!!) was their conscious choice. It just reminds me of Adolescenc…
/r/MensRights21/08/25 08:51 AM
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I don't think they're all bad. But there are a few who are blatantly trying to sugarcoat or obfuscate the truth. For example, Courtney Ryan. Her channel, when she would just question a pool of women, was peak. When someone unironically lets out that a Pagani BC is on her list of expectations, you can get a good framework of how much is lost in translation between how much people expect from you vs what they're willing to do to get it. After she stopped doing that, she's trying to promote a posit…
/r/MensRights21/08/25 07:56 AM
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A woman who thinks men are all the same is likely one who will make all women look the same. Men are aren't worried about chasing as much as they're worried about getting something fresh. This is a natural instinct. Catching a live fish is obviously better than catching a sick dying or dead one. Unfortunately if you're trying too hard to get caught or picked, men are going to think there is a reason for that, and if you don't tell them what that is, they'll just assume the worst, which is likely…
/r/MensRights20/08/25 01:39 AM
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They don't care but it is also a test... And a taunt. In their mind, treating you like a caged animal is a potential precaution. "I treated you like crap to make sure I knew you wouldn't hit me" or "If you respond a certain way to this, you're not a real man." From stupid man vs bear scenarios to would you love me if I was a bug or some other crap, they're convinced that their witch hunting is an infallible aspect of vetting. "Just say you're broke!" Women insulting less fortunate men while pote…
/r/MensRights19/08/25 08:46 PM
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Perception and lack of male support. Men are typically seen as an immediate threat to women. "If you did nothing wrong you should have nothing to worry about" just... You know, just miss work, get your car impounded, potentially get fired, and everyone assume you're a monster. All good right? In a world where settling a court dispute is cheaper than going to trial, the clarity of who is innocent or guilty is harder to determine. You settling out of court is going to be held next to grandmaster c…
/r/MensRights19/08/25 02:33 PM
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On aspects that only depend on you... That's for you to decide. On aspects that others determine what is sufficient... There's a problem. If people told you exactly what they wanted from you, you'd likely do it, and never do more. From relationships to the workplace, once you have everything down, you'd become completely stable and will have room to do something else. Ultimately, the satisfaction should be yours, but if you're working for the approval of others, it typically won't stay enough. I…
/r/MensRights19/08/25 12:30 PM
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It makes sense I guess. I feel like most of the negativity surrounding age gap relationships is the potential for predatory behavior but also the idea of peer pressure dictating what the relationship is. Everyone seems to be quiet when a young woman is dating some super rich person a few years from their casket. But if they feel the woman is not winning in the relationship, everyone is going to point it out and I really feel like that part is what really gets swept under the rug. Think about how…
/r/MensRights18/08/25 05:46 PM
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I'm somewhere between Well meaning men who underestimate the issue. Men who think predation is an unfortunate fact of life. When you don't actually know what someone wants, you don't know what's enough to give. If you see "Touch a tit, buy a drink" and say nothing to the woman pushing that message, your silence communicates that to certain women, that is okay. And then not that much further down, there are women that say "Just never talk to us, ever." That bar is moving like the shot bar for Sha…
/r/MensRights18/08/25 12:20 AM
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I think if the bear was dumb enough to do what men do then they might actually pick them... But as men we're supposed to know that we have to lose the man argument but still have the car parked outside to take them to the next place. I said elsewhere that typically only children are allowed the audacity to deny every contribution you make to their lives and still experience them. There are several parents who will make an example of them for that level of disrespect though... But for whatever re…
/r/MensRights17/08/25 11:46 PM
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It's definitely something. It scares me though... There's kind of a lot of things in life that exist because people were tired of doing it. Do you think we're getting dangerously close to the point where there's almost something for everything? Makes me think of the AI replacing jobs situation. You don't want to do it? Okay. And now some of those jobs are gone. I think if this becomes widely adopted, pride will be the only real thing stopping people from using stuff like this. You've got your ch…
/r/MensRights17/08/25 11:30 PM
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The attitude in this article reminds me of the conservative opinion that if people already have everything they want, they'd be likely to do nothing. If someone's only true motivation for dating is to gain financially, and something like UBI (Universal Basic Income) were to become a reality, the people who are happy with this will be less likely to pursue any dating, just as people who want a home would be less likely to if they owned their own free and clear. Given the nature of hypergamy, this…
/r/MensRights17/08/25 07:09 PM
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I think we just need another for the sake of removing all the negative actions associated with even posting here. Getting banned from other places because of simply posting in here is some bible thumping levels of exclusionary behavior. Expressing an opinion and then deleting it later to be re accepted into groups doesn't change that that may be how you feel, it just disallows you from being able to express your opinion. Inevitably, that'll likely attract people who aren't interested in their ac…
/r/MensRights17/08/25 03:18 PM
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I feel like you're asking a different question even though you're not. Stability, or everything you want, but, you're at the mercy of what you want in order to keep it? If the house, family, love, friends and status you want are dependent on specific aspects of your life remaining a certain way, what you do is the main thing keeping what you have in your possession. If those aspects change, you're likely to lose what you're doing it all for. If the thing you seek is uplifting your entire life, l…
/r/MensRights17/08/25 09:26 AM
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Ugh. When all but one of the milestones make you incredibly vulnerable to the economy, why would you want to complete them? Move out Get a job Get married Have a child Finish secondary education Get a job is the only milestone that doesn't directly have the potential to screw you financially.
/r/MensRights17/08/25 07:30 AM
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Think like this too: men are basically shopping for dresses, and women are essentially shopping for tools. Good dresses just have to look pretty. But good tools need to work, they need to last, and used to be of such high quality that they'd be passed down several generations. So we look at a woman and can immediately say she's valuable based on that, while women can do that to men too, in most relationship expectations, that isn't enough. He's got to prove himself. Get tested, possibly be treat…
/r/MensRights16/08/25 12:19 AM
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I think it always comes into question which man they're talking about. Man as in all men, or man as in specific men? Both can typically reveal that the "man's world" is specific, and is usually reductive for the sake of obfuscating how many men aren't applicable to this "man's world". You can be male, and not be the man that this world implies would sustain you. But then that is or will likely be made to be your fault...
/r/MensRights15/08/25 09:50 PM
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I already literally said what I thought tigers were, which already has successfully remained applicable to the situation. The tigers are essentially just a transfer of responsibility. I don't need to "understand" what it means, if it means something else to me and I'm willing to be able to explain it. You called feminism a tiger, but for most women, quitting feminism is a net positive. I also explained what kind of men were made to be tigers. And by making those same men tigers, they're essentia…
/r/MensRights15/08/25 06:36 PM
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An additional problem is that by this mindset... Men are also tigers. Choosing which men are platformed and rewarded keeps people in control. Women are often rightfully criticized for choosing the same men they speak against, but if you're in control of that tiger, of course you care less about what that tiger is doing because you have control. I know a few women who are more okay with their men being selfish, perverted or selective AFTER they've mounted the tiger. Every tiger (man) is dangerous…
/r/MensRights15/08/25 11:42 AM
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I don't think we're all aware of how much of an impact negative influence has toward an experience that would otherwise be normal. The idea of what you do not being fulfilling if it doesn't "get bitches" or work being worthless if it doesn't land you a situation where you become an eligible bachelor is typically sustained by men and women alike, and creates a situation where everything men do that doesn't land them in the marathon makes them appear as a failure. Think about the show adolescence.…
/r/MensRights14/08/25 01:09 AM
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I think the worst of it all is that because everything else women do are technologically trivialized (like cooking and cleaning) the other things like sex and emotional support, being withheld or completely absent, creates a relationship where men are basically on hold to an insurance claim they'd otherwise be entitled to. As you say yourself, women don't owe anyone anything. Not sex, a child, nothing. But in the essence of mutuality it always feels like you're just burning money and not spendin…
/r/MensRights14/08/25 12:10 AM
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It feels more disingenuous than anything. Like someone infiltrating your friend group because they think you're talking bad about others while in it, and when they find out you're not, they just stay in it instead of be honest about why they joined in the first place. I miss when people could just say, "because I want to hang out with you". Instead of feel the need to do all this extra stuff to accomplish the same thing. Now, in terms of the workplace... I really don't know. I was never fond of …
/r/MensRights13/08/25 05:10 PM
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Idiots. They going to go in the gym next? Nobody is going to talk to women at all if this becomes normalized. What's also funny is that if women go through all these violent and heinous acts because of men, why aren't they trying to stop those? It must not happen enough to try to stop... So now they're out here essentially being bait cars and likely deterring men who aren't in a relationship from being in one. What's the endgame? Full social and sexual control over men?
/r/MensRights13/08/25 06:24 AM
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Not really. I'd say maybe in older times, not because I think hating women is okay, good, or especially effective, but in the mid to late 2000s and up to maybe 2015 saying so might have put you in a good position to have conversations with the women on those platforms so you could get it off your chest. Forums were pretty much the main social media because a lot of us were rejecting Facebook and MySpace. But now? No. Saying so will just be some post someone can see in your comment history to ser…
/r/MensRights12/08/25 07:28 PM
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It's cool. I think the main difference is that a lot of men who aren't regularly sexually active aren't going to find use for this. Having a pill that seems to work in or around 3 days for 3 ish days is going to be and sound like a waste for people who don't even think or expect to "get lucky." I'm not speaking against it, I just feel like sexual activities aren't male controlled to reflect how useful an alternative this is as a contraceptive... It's likely something a wife or girlfriend would e…
/r/MensRights12/08/25 04:02 PM
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I think women didn't want their initial value to be dependent on if they could land and keep a man. Because honestly if women all can and wanted to do that with regular joes, most of them could have retired at 18... Smh. There's a certain level of irony to seeing how much people will pay you to watch a child in comparison to doing actual labor or even chores. Even as kids my sisters and I would get paid more to watch younger children more than doing things like shovelling snow and cleaning the h…
/r/MensRights12/08/25 12:27 PM
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I think they're also against what the idea implied to men... Feminism was defined to me as rights and choice for women, equality of opportunity. As a man I am fine with that, but my brain did a Spider-Man and said great power comes with great responsibility. But that's not what happened. Typically, if you do something you don't like every day, someone picking up the slack makes you appreciate them. So I assumed completely that a bunch of women going to work and learning to do a few male oriented…
/r/MensRights12/08/25 07:36 AM
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You'd be better off never revealing what bothers you to people you don't feel are good company. I know most women can drop the trauma bomb and get a calm in whatever conversation they typically do it in, but we don't share that fortune. I'm sorry for what happened to you man... I think you have to take a step back and see what we're dealing with. If the president is doing pedo shit, you see how many people are cool with it, because they want to be cool with him... Women are getting the similar a…
/r/MensRights11/08/25 07:14 PM
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If you work a job for 20 years and get fired, or they lay you off, and you have no stake in the company, why would you be responsible for it? If the company goes under you don't think, damn I could have saved the company!!! You say, shit, some really good employees lost their job. I hope they find a better employer. If you care so much about the kid, YOU go be the guy! Nobody will stop you, superhero. It's not soulless, it's pragmatic. Kids most affected, yes. But who's pawning off that responsi…
/r/MensRights11/08/25 10:48 AM
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It is like washing a car. Know why? Because if the owner is okay with it, it's fine, but if they aren't, even though you're doing nothing wrong, it's a problem. He doesn't own the child, at any moment something as simple as taking the child somewhere can be abduction in the same way that taking someone else's car to get washed can be considered theft. Why invest anything into something that can be taken away from you so easily no matter how much you love them? Stop blaming the man and blame the …
/r/MensRights11/08/25 10:24 AM
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I think it's funny... How women like this typically say that they and their kids are a "Package deal" but get upset when a guy understands that and leaves it to the next guy to do all that. The guy doesn't hate the kid, in fact, most guys don't, but the kid isn't theirs... I don't understand why that concept is do hard to grasp. Cool car, not my car. I'm not going to come back and keep washing your fucking car if we're no longer friends. Does he keep getting to come over and play house if you're…
/r/MensRights11/08/25 09:02 AM
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It's probably less likely for someone to reach over the counter and slug a woman because they're unhappy, or tell them to STFU when they're trying to upsell you, have people more likely to tip, less likely to get upset about errors in orders, or get extremely irate when they tell you the insurance doesn't cover whatever it should have. It's a subconscious level of diffusion... But it also is beneficial to women shoppers. They can brag or gloat about stealing or returning some guy's gift for the …
/r/MensRights11/08/25 08:32 AM
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Loved seeing how much of a "good man" he was for getting bullied by her... Reminded me of school where one or two people make a victim feel better after a fight because they "ate the punches." Over headphones... On an airport no less. Why wouldn't you have 2 sets so you can swap them when one dies? What kind of athlete wants to spend 2 to 3 hours downtime because their stupid headphones are charging? Not me. Meanwhile Sharpe gets fleeced by some e-girl for multiple millions and gets dropped by E…
/r/MensRights11/08/25 12:06 AM
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People should have complete understanding of the intent they have when speaking a certain way to attract certain people. She said that to bring the people she wanted to talk to, to the stage. If she cared, she would have said it differently.
/r/MensRights10/08/25 05:54 PM
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It's not really a byproduct if that's what the goal was. You've centered the post around women. But the sunsetting of multiple forums and hangouts, social media text limits and the focus on pictures, devaluing interaction and contact aren't centered on women either. We can both make points without trying to dismiss mine. Smh.
/r/MensRights10/08/25 05:50 PM
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It's basically like jobs and money... Most people need a job but everyone needs money. Why do people even want to have a job? Money. I'm assuming people want rights so that half of the population would treat them better. If those people treated them better already, they would care less about the rights in the same way people care less about jobs if they had enough money... We're going after one thing to get the other, but if the other came first, we wouldn't be after the first thing. That's why …
/r/MensRights10/08/25 01:12 PM
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"Our household" My car, my school, my fun, my bills, my lawyer... Why would someone pay for you to be further away from him? It sounds like everything she wants money for is to run, and why would he want to pay for that, so she can divorce him and make him do it again? Dude is dying and everything is about her... Everyone in that situation but him is going to live. Aside from her bathing him she sounds like a whole child... We clean up after ourselves and his laundry is done... Now pay all my bi…
/r/MensRights10/08/25 11:15 AM
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It's more than that... Most of it is soft locked. Most people make a wage. A wage requires you to work a set amount of time for a set amount of money that every employer wants you to over perform on. Your over-performance is typically how much of your effort evaporates without compensation that you KNOW about. If that doesn't work, we've got inflation, taking everyone's money and making copies of it to sell at the previous money's value until people catch on that the sauce was diluted. Now every…
/r/MensRights10/08/25 10:52 AM
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Emotional things don't really work when you're the person who needs to be responsible... If the car is broken and people are crying, the person who needs to fix it is still going to need to fix it, tears or not. If you're not that person, you can cry and get consoled until a solution falls into your lap. In most circumstances YOU are the solution. The hero can cry, but he still has to get out there and save the day. Nothing is going to change (for the better) until he does. It might be useful ot…
/r/MensRights09/08/25 12:47 AM
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It sounds like quiet quitting but for relationships... Both make sense but make me sad. It's like a child who realizes their parents are hopeless and instead of fight a useless fight, they just cooperate as little as possible until they can escape...
/r/MensRights08/08/25 10:25 AM
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Let's paint the whole movement as enemies in different ways, huh? Nobody is going to be able to properly discuss anything presented if that article is the only source they have on the subject... I don't get how groups that literally want women to be a part of their lives can still be seen as hating women... And only women want to paint their traditional roles as unpaid labor, creating tension as relating it to servitude. While women can be seen literally hating men, what they do, wanting to use …
/r/MensRights07/08/25 08:05 PM
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It would be a very different world if male and female hate were both allowed... I think women who parrot that shit don't realize that a lot of people fester on negativity... When insecure men, not just the ones called that, have to live in their own mind, their own character comes into question... And you can't really tell people who you are, you have to let other people tell you, and a lot of these types of women have nothing nice to say about men. Suicide rates cannot be from nothing... They'r…
/r/MensRights07/08/25 05:14 PM
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Imagine giving up your seat for someone who hates you. Crazy. Women are the problem... They're not guns, weapons or tools... They're people. Every day and every moment they have the opportunity to make choices of any kind, and they choose to make ones like this. Not every woman obviously... But enough for you to hesitate. I also think it's funny that someone who "feels unsafe" next to you, would provoke you by acting like an asshat... That definitely makes sense. "Good answer!"
/r/MensRights07/08/25 04:57 PM
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I know women can have their cake and eat it... But personally, the things in life that upset me are about expectations and inequalities that nobody would need therapy for if it was either not allowed, or overwhelming spoken against. For example... "Woman hating" groups typically get nuked, "woman haters" get banned, and their opinions get removed, etc. There would be less or no therapy required for these things because they're not allowed to exist. Man hating needs to stop. If that stops, we'd l…
/r/MensRights07/08/25 09:17 AM
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https://ecency.com/news/@arraymedia/man-dismembered-by-mother-and-partner-for-not-setting-the-table-media-silent-on-gender-bias Especially when you see he got chopped up just for not setting the table... Reminds me of all the mothers who go apeshit because people aren't lusting for a warm plate of food they just made. You think the kid is safe if she killed her partner over that? Italy is foolish. It's only a matter of time before that kid gets attacked for not being obsessed about sitting at th…
/r/MensRights07/08/25 08:56 AM
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I don't think they're noticing it as much as they're acknowledging that the pothole is now getting to the point where it'll do irreparable damage if it isn't filled. These issues were nearing or exceeding being a decade old. And it really just says, keep doing it even if we're satisfied, because remaining in a situation where we have enough representation to create change is a position we shouldn't ever surrender... Makes me wonder if feminism has felt that way, and that's why it remains in the …
/r/MensRights06/08/25 06:57 PM
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I personally feel like the obsession with women's own wavering beauty reveals the lack of value in anything else she has even after she's done it. Obviously we would prefer everyone remain beautiful... But if it doesn't happen, there should be other things we value to compensate. The focus on beauty leads those values to remain ignored because there really isn't anything else they care to show us. Think of social media... A lot of girl's profiles on there are just travel pictures, political repl…
/r/MensRights06/08/25 06:30 PM
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You think this place would exist if there wasn't a good enough reason to be worried about what others thought of good people? Oh nah bro, tea app is perfectly fine just worry about you. Just get doxxed because some other girls want to see if you're bad. Get the fuck away from me.
/r/MensRights05/08/25 05:23 PM
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I think this is the same issue with the term "peace of mind." Yeah, you bought the highest tier insurance, you FEEL protected, safe, and then when you NEED it, here come the excuses and the fine print... Feeling and being are two very different things. But unfortunately, feeling safe is likely the only thing that creates the idea that risk can be ignored. If you FEEL safe, you might be more comfortable being unsafe. "I can do this, I have good insurance" kind of energy. There really is no apprec…
/r/MensRights05/08/25 05:06 PM
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Everyone responsible should be held accountable, not just men. That's the point.
/r/MensRights05/08/25 04:38 PM
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Yes that's the idea.
/r/MensRights05/08/25 04:37 PM
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Nothing wrong with what you said... It's kind of on the lines of... If it's a bad thing to do, why can they do it, but not me? Because "toxic masculinity" is definitely supported but for whatever reason not directly encouraged. If you date the "toxic man" but not the man you tell men to be... Why would they ever want to be that man if they want to date?
/r/MensRights05/08/25 10:57 AM
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If there was anything I'd want... It's to find the female equivalent of "Don't stick your dick in crazy". A lot of men take or are made responsible for the outcomes of relationships that don't go well, and I always hear "he was abusive" on the other side...
/r/MensRights05/08/25 10:48 AM
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They don't understand that people who do that create problems that shouldn't exist... When people behave this way, now the other person has to carry all the bags at once even if they didn't want to. It's the equivalent of people taking on more than they can handle at work when it's expected for someone else to pick up the slack. I didn't want to carry 12 boxes at once but because you did and almost dropped them, now I have to. The fact they don't see it properly just shows how selfish they are. …
/r/MensRights05/08/25 10:34 AM
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Starting conversations you're not willing to publicly discuss is useless.
/r/MensRights05/08/25 10:14 AM
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Do you think the opposing force isn't strong enough to disturb that? Masculinity is already challenged, and when the same people who demand that it change, sees that change lead to an outcome they do not desire, they reward the same people men were encouraged not to be. How do you leave a state of confusion when the state of the majority of men is that they want to eat? Men cannot provide this food so they cannot satiate them. But instead of have ample food, they're stuck in a "Don't work, don't…
/r/MensRights05/08/25 09:36 AM
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It'll be nice but it'll never really be the same. Think of it like this. If you built up a wall around all women, and men wanted to approach, there would need to be a good reason to get the gates open. But for the men, the majority of men want to go out, so even if we built a wall for men, they'd leave. As long as men are of the opinion that they need to venture forth, and women are of the opinion they need to be propositioned, the situations that hurt us the most will be repeatable. Furthermore…
/r/MensRights05/08/25 09:07 AM
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It's hard to be something nobody wants but everybody wants. "Toxic masculinity" is just a longer way to say "man". Both are doomed to only be valued for what they provide, and people support the "toxic" parts of both when it benifits them. A soldier, bully, protector, performer, etc... The state of confusion is the problem. "Toxic masculinity" is bad, but people would rather you be toxic than a feminine man. They'd rather you be toxic than an incel, or a Manosphere participant... So now instead …
/r/MensRights04/08/25 04:36 PM
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No you're not. I'd imagine people genuinely think that he should be put in a position where he just pleasures his potential partner with objects and has nothing for himself despite it being why he wanted to initiate. Apparently she's not ready and that's fine, but I don't think any man should want to partake in a blue balled ritual that is centered around doing everything but the thing you want to do as if that already doesn't happen enough. I think the issue people are upset with is the loss of…
/r/MensRights04/08/25 04:17 PM
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It's not just high value... Its impulse and status. If you're a hot guy with options, there's basically a "Limited time offer" expectation with that. "If you don't talk to him NOW, you'll miss this once in a lifetime deal." It doesn't make sense at first, but the idea here is that when people are considered valuable, the opportunity to get them becomes precuous... Like you are sniping a bid at the last second. And just like that action, paying more than you typically would to win that item is co…
/r/MensRights04/08/25 07:45 AM
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That's fair... Something that should always be considered is bystanders though. For every hateful person writing, there could be someone on the fence reading the conversation that genuinely may not know... While it should be something they inquire upon on their own, I'd imagine it often doesn't happen, especially in gendered discussion. I do agree with you that some people are a lost cause. Sometimes I'll speak for the potential reach to someone less... Inconsiderate. But I'm not going to just b…
/r/MensRights02/08/25 09:47 PM
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If you said what you said to me and I had no response, it would look like you were correct, or I had nothing to retort with. Leaving someone speechless is typically a term used to describe someone who was proven wrong to a point where they had noting to say... Why would you give someone wrong the satisfaction? I don't know how you can't correlate bullying to verbal abuse. Men are victims of several forms of abuse, physical and emotional, and they get absolutely nowhere when they respond politely…
/r/MensRights02/08/25 07:02 PM
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For the same reason you feel the need to defend yourself... Why do it here, and not there?
/r/MensRights02/08/25 06:32 PM
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No... The reason men get hit by women and otherwise abused by them is because of this behavior you're trying to push. These particular women know those men will do nothing so they in response act with limitless abandon. The other issue is also categorical... Incel and likely blackpillers have such a low bar to social society that people already treat them abysmally poor. So telling people most people seemingly want to kick already to say thank you after being kicked is no help at all. If it's no…
/r/MensRights02/08/25 10:01 AM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TBzx-SMSwGE&pp=0gcJCccJAYcqIYzv About 2 minutes and 30 seconds in she talks about her 9 year old son very shortly. It's not what I'm looking for but it's a lot to sift through.
/r/MensRights01/08/25 03:39 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=faeT4fIFAcg about 12 minutes in she talks about her boyfriend's I think husband now's daughter and how it effected him... That isn't the answer... I'm still looking. I haven't watched these in years. I'll reply again when I find it.
/r/MensRights01/08/25 01:48 PM
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The fact that she's been around pretty much near the MGTOW movement and still maintains a clean reputation should say enough. She never took jabs at her viewers or fans in a way that made you question her intent, she painted the picture of her son in school being judged in a particular way and painted the picture of how that made her feel, and she basically peeled it back and understood that it is a men problem. I'd imagine due to the language vocal women use to differentiate their men from all …
/r/MensRights01/08/25 11:54 AM
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I don't think he's speaking directly against the idea of family oriented men. Like you also say. If women didn't put their needs above the family, then it would be great. But because of the possibility of that being the case, men relinquishing opportunities of any kind to accommodate a fleeting objective like that makes them lesser men than they could be. Which is bad for them because, like Tom Brady, they're now on the market for a different woman. That would be a lot harder if they dropped the…
/r/MensRights01/08/25 09:23 AM
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I think it's not only weakening men. But in a sense, the individual. The whole "what's mine is mine, what's yours is mine." Song lyric really encapsulates the issue. When someone is permitted to gather resources and contribute very little or none of it to a relationship of any kind, especially when both parties are similarly invested in that kind of success... It makes it where whoever does the least keeps the most. The encouraged mindset is: "just stay together" but if and or when that is no lo…
/r/MensRights01/08/25 09:13 AM
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It definitely should be taken seriously... If I said I hate these people, and no one said anything, but I have a billion likes. What does that say? That says a absurdly high amount of people hate those people too and aren't willing to say it, but will like my submission for the sake of showing agreement. TikTok should be used that way. You have to let the talkers talk so the silent people can talk in their own way. Think of the feminism subs... Some posts have like 30 comments but 4 thousand upv…
/r/MensRights01/08/25 02:07 AM
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Dude... Imagine if you called a girl for sex, and something better came up twice so you didn't show... Then when your whole week was dry you told her to come out for 3 days for a fest... And since you dodged her twice already you're pushing your shortcomings on her by asking if she's "still down" before the three days. Would she even have to ask if she's being used? Then why are you?!
/r/MensRights01/08/25 01:32 AM
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I don't think I'd exclusively care for women in the situation, but more for the children... I feel like some of the children, especially children in already multi father households, were had to compensate for the fact that women had a child that the new father is only a few statements from fully understanding he has no place or authority over, but seemingly with responsibility. If those children were put up for adoption, those single women crying at the screen saying get that abortion will likel…
/r/MensRights01/08/25 01:27 AM
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Most of society doesn't care until people they do care about are harmed. Think of the show adolescence, school shootings, mass shootings and crimes like it. Troubled people who everyone seems to understand is having a hard time but not reaching out to them or doing anything for them, not even acknowledging them, UNTIL they do something to people they care about. Think of the silly videos you see with kids. The girls doing whatever they want to the boys, everything is comical and cool until the m…
/r/MensRights01/08/25 01:07 AM
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There are a lot of times where I view the cultural clutch to sex separation as a failure of a system blamed on people who have done nothing wrong. The all women train cars in some countries basically serve as a resignation that they cannot protect women or bring men who offend the system to justice. And if they allow this design philosophy to continue, they're subjecting innocent men to being seen as guilty solely because they haven't invested in a system that can ensure the safety of everyone..…
/r/MensRights31/07/25 03:03 PM
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The anima example she brings up... About women being a projection of male desire that isn't very similar to who she wants to be or who she really is. Men... Men are dealing with this too. The tearless, fearless, endlessly generous and stoic for the sole purpose of attracting and maintaining their sexual partnership with women. But it isn't mentioned or visited. Does the world truly think men want to go die and risk their health, mental and physical well-being solely because they want to and not …
/r/MensRights31/07/25 02:30 PM
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I feel like you're structuring this in a way that devalues life experience. If someone's only experience with a woman is helping her move and doing favors, it's a valid representation of their life, and if their complaints about that life lead no one to care to offset that experience with a more positive one, then that's the experience their peers expect them to have. Women complain about horrible men in their lives and abusive chauvanistic men etc in their life and most men rush or used to rush…
/r/MensRights31/07/25 04:32 AM
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Fear leads people to seek guidance from who they don't fear... For women, that's feminism, for men, that's male content. Both of us tell each other that each side is bad and don't listen... But the difference is that there are a lot more visible examples of men not doing what everyone is saying we do, while in the opposing spaces there are people exercising their liberties to do exactly what we're afraid of. The culture war obviously has one side wearing 3D glasses that filter out all the men wh…
/r/MensRights31/07/25 04:07 AM
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Now and 7 years ago is quite the gap... I was going to tell you to get a good feel about what is actually happening but 7 years should be enough time. If you want my opinion, you should just play the field. Some of the most situationally distressed men are in situations where women shut them up or defame them and either men pick them up, or they have to pick up themselves. I think it would be an absolute boost for morale to have a woman who is there to uplift men attacked by this system, and to …
/r/MensRights31/07/25 03:28 AM
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There is a disconnect online. In person, there's typically expressions, body language, how often someone tries to be near you, or be seen by you, how they speak to you, what words they use, the consideration they have when disagreeing with you, etc. Those opportunities are gone. Why would you buy something now if you know it can always go on sale? The same thing men need to start a conversation is what average women have in their message boxes daily. Why have small talk with regular Joe if some …
/r/MensRights31/07/25 01:08 AM
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The first time I saw this myself is when Hillary Clinton was up for President the first time. Loads of women on tumblr basically trading topless photos for evidence that men voted that way. You'd think that women doing exactly the same thing they didn't want men asking for would have been the last thing on the bingo card, but it might as well be the free space. Don't objectify me, paired with Amazon wishlists links and the pre OnlyFans hosting sites where they sold clips of themselves. Porn is b…
/r/MensRights30/07/25 05:13 AM
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I agree, the other choice just leaves the rest of men in this situation for dead. How do we get other men to find joy in comradery among just men? I think the only community I know that is downright honest about how much they disregard male friendships is the Blackpill community. Despite leaning on each other to complain and communicate their frustrations, they never saw their community as potential friendships. If I ever get the opportunity again I need to figure out why.
/r/MensRights30/07/25 03:12 AM
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Something a lot of men go through to get the attention of women. A lot of solutions to men's problems can be at least remotely remedied by mimicking women's behavior. Men clustering up and discussing issues together will be a very easy way to fix loneliness. But if they think being together will make them less viable to be approached, and that's what they really want, they're going to go back to standing alone. Men are seen as more attractive when they're on their own. Have their own opinions, r…
/r/MensRights29/07/25 11:03 PM
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She basically was a stonecutter in the days where it was almost a must to get someone of the same gender to speak to the gender. She is better than most (maybe all) men at tackling the subject, can speak on terms women can also understand, and doesn't have to play the stupid games men have to because she'll never have to tiptoe around the fact that she's talking to women. She's basically an overdrawn bowshot directly into the heart of the issue. But she's been around forever, and even when she w…
/r/MensRights29/07/25 10:19 PM
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I didn't say that to urge you to do it. It's a BAD IDEA...
/r/MensRights29/07/25 04:02 PM
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I think I would have sat closer out of spite. But they'd probably have kicked me off the bus because I'd imagine they'd do awkward things like put their leg or their bag on the free seat to make me look foolish. If it happened at school I'd imagine it would happen here. But if they thought I was a rapist I can't really go any lower. If there was ever anything that makes me feel like being alone is a problem, it's situations like this... Even one person to defend you could do something to protect…
/r/MensRights29/07/25 03:02 PM
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I remember my first job... Mt Airy casino... My mother applied and told me to apply. She got an interview, I did not. She told me to get ready because I was going anyway. "Keep trying." I called over and over, I was right outside the office. It was full. I continue calling, and this lady rushes out of her office claiming that some kid with no experience keeps calling. "I don't want him. He should take the hint." Do I keep calling? It was a punch in the gut honestly. Screw this kid, is basically …
/r/MensRights29/07/25 02:27 PM
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I don't understand... If the professor means: What is the men's equivalent of women removing their own burdens in a relationship to appear more attractive? Then... Men are already expected to do that. If you've seen the experiments people were doing on dating apps where some very attractive man was guilty of heinous things and still got matches and conversion after pointing it out. Virtue isn't valued of men, at least not for the intimate encounter. Inevitably, that could come to mean that the i…
/r/MensRights29/07/25 01:59 PM
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I think he could have a better point, but he hammers on men only and men's productive value for society instead of pointing at the world. Men's issue in and of itself is that they're taught to do what they do, for others. Fast cars muscles luxury big house vacations and etc are typically not for him or just for him. They're for his other. But if there is no other, why do it aside from survival? If the prize was worth less than what it would cost you to even compete, why would you compete? Simply…
/r/MensRights29/07/25 11:19 AM
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I was going to settle at a pot of greed Yu-Gi-Oh! Joke, but something looked familiar about her face. Also happy cake day!
/r/MensRights28/07/25 05:35 PM
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Sounds normal. The old "break up over Barbie" crowd.
/r/MensRights28/07/25 05:37 AM
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Jumba Jookiba grew a full set of teeth? Amazing! There is a subreddit for the Adolescence Netflix show. And there are women there who shared that same opinion. That's how irresponsible women like that have become, where they assume their child will take absolutely no guidence or influence from them.
/r/MensRights28/07/25 05:35 AM
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I think just about everything "man vs woman" is foolishly designed to hurt men. Because rich to a poor person can simply be stable. He doesn't need to be high status, he needs to be high status, TO HER... And if women "date up", then that could come to mean just about any man they'd be with. It's also less about the gender and more about the assumed position. We typically think of women in the same way we would children. Open to influence, incapable of making their own informed decisions, and in…
/r/MensRights28/07/25 05:21 AM
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Blaming all men has a positive response to them... In their minds if calling every man a monster stops even one murder then it's all worth it. Issue with that, is that their math sucks. Because if that 1 less murder creates several hundred fewer couples, children... And the false accusations and encouraged separations lead men to suicide and unhealthy or aborted families... They don't care about it being a worse result because they don't care about the butterfly effect. Instead of recognize that…
/r/MensRights26/07/25 10:15 PM
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It's mostly because of how superficial things are. Nowadays people can easily have a lot more in common than ever. But a lot of reason why you're not friends is because people put other things above what will bring you together. Like your gender, politics, religion, where you met them, if they're attracted to you or not, how old you are (not talking about kids), if you already have mutual friends, etc. Sometimes it hits you like a truck. Realizing some of your friends call you last because you d…
/r/MensRights26/07/25 09:27 PM
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15 rehab days and a low average pay week worth of money? Really? That's all you get for stalking someone and trying to run them over? And that's only when they get punished for it... She was love-bombed by him in the first instance, she was pinning everything on this relationship. It was not a healthy relationship Look at how hard they deflect. Who cares about love bombing? If a guy was love bombed and she changed her mind, he'd just have to get over himself. And how does a love bomb make the en…
/r/MensRights26/07/25 05:19 AM
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I think you specifically need to learn something that I've only learned in the last few years... Evil is typically born of weakness, or apathy. You shouldn't forgive your wife but forgive yourself... When, how, with what, and why she hurt you is all probably because she's weak. Throwing things, attacking you when you're hurt or vulnerable. Using the past as additional pain... She most likely wants you to feel weaknesses you probably still aren't aware of. To bring you into weakness yourself so y…
/r/MensRights26/07/25 02:51 AM
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At the end of the day, the person you told to not read this probably needs it most. If you blame the car, and could have chosen the car, it's your fault. That's something we all have to accept. If you saw a limo and decided for DEI sake that it could be a good getaway car, reality is probably the author of a lot of unread messages in your inbox... But ultimately if we're sticking to cars, a car that could be a great getaway car doesn't mean it is a getaway car. And that is a valid point. Men hav…
/r/MensRights26/07/25 02:25 AM
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No, and they never will. I don't think that would be the rational response to protecting your space. For example. If you built a paradise, you wouldn't be interested in attacking peoples spaces that attack you, because you either know or feel your place is that much better than theirs. You would, however, be interested in attacking the people directly who hope to destroy your space. Which is typically what we do here. People come here disingeniously? We call them out and make it apparently clear…
/r/MensRights26/07/25 01:26 AM
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I see a lot of white female teachers doing the deed, I wouldn't call it DEI if teaching is such a female dominated field... They're bad because they want to be and they can be. I think there isn't enough punishment for the crimes for these women to stop. I see their husbands stand by them, they get basically no time, looks like they seem to escape sex offense registry, and they can just add it as a notch in their belt. To excuse this while every reasonable person is trying to uncover what this w…
/r/MensRights24/07/25 03:31 AM
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That's like someone telling me my fly is open and me reporting them... What in the world? Yeah I'd be all over that statement. I already have long ass comments, that paper's getting covered.
/r/MensRights24/07/25 02:59 AM
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Lmao... A lot if the bigger (downvoted) comment trees here are filled with people who don't understand that a lot of the issues good men face are due to being seen as a false positive. This app perpetuates that and allows women to take any man and ring him through the coals to other women. That man would have to be just as sexually successful with OTHER women to have those women defend him as not being a red flag because they've experienced him. Most men do not even have this opportunity. So now…
/r/MensRights24/07/25 02:28 AM
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Eye of the beholder. Sex is sex. But when it's stitched in with self respect, dating, someone being more valuable than you, a bargaining chip, a money maker, etc. Now that's what sex is. If men see that all the stupid experiences and opportunities they've had with women are solely because they had sex... Men are going to understand that sex is important and always want it. Because without it, they can tell by the way those women are talking, that men that don't get that far mean nothing to them.…
/r/MensRights24/07/25 02:13 AM
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If you're speaking from the essence of why do people prefer confidence and logic to empathy in scenarios depending on an encounter? It's because those types of people initiate it more. Think like this... Perfect woman, nicest girl ever, skilled, chill, hobbies you enjoy too, great family, heart of liquid gold, dangerously attractive in a way YOU specifically like... But her chances of being out in the open or talking to you are locked at 0%. What good is that? You won't even know she even thinks…
/r/MensRights23/07/25 07:45 PM
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I think that portion of equality is why people changed it to equity. Because there was always going to be a certain level of disdain for the idea that people who ask for more team lifts, lift less, and get volunteered for labor less in a job that lists heavy labor as a requirement, can take home just as much as someone who can do it on their own. In the media space... Its childish in the same way the little sister character was consistently portrayed as being smarter than her brothers, the wife …
/r/MensRights23/07/25 09:53 AM
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This thread smacked me with a memory... When I was in high school and a little bit after, feminism was becoming mainstream and it was just about as pushed as schools felt when there would be agents trying to get people to enlist. It was basically... Do you care about women? Yes? You passed the test, you're a feminist. And you'd basically just exist around a group of women fighting for rights and getting guys and girls alike to fight for them. Wage gap, domestic violence, rape discussions etc. Bu…
/r/MensRights22/07/25 03:13 PM
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Glass slippers man. If it doesn't fit, don't bother. People have to care about who you are before they'll listen in direct conversation. Even with what you replied to... We would need two people each side values enough to represent us to speak on our behalf... Who do either of us have to do that? Because we'll learn way too much about ourselves based on who we choose to lead us. I genuinely wonder who women would pick.... Right now my man side choice would likely be Karen Straughan.
/r/MensRights22/07/25 12:10 PM
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Lol... I kept refreshing, when that didn't work, I refreshed, then hit print, and saved it as a PDF. Screw stupid news sites stealing your data just to show you information they should be grateful you even want to look at.
/r/MensRights22/07/25 10:05 AM
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Empathy... Issue with that is that both sides are armed vicariously with their gender's issues. Can YOU forgive someone for something that happened to someone else? No. They can apologize for it, but that literally does nothing for this gendered situation, and only the individual. So the question is painfully childish... Who goes first? And that's why nothing has changed. We know who isn't going first. There's already plenty of accounts where they'll never go first even for their own sake... And…
/r/MensRights22/07/25 04:44 AM
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Tbh, thankfully, I don't think it's all women, but I def think it's 2 many. True I feel it's also important to point out that everything this woman has extrapolated on in her article is considered normal. This is something any woman can fall prey to at any moment if she's too selfish. The absolutely weaponized disgust shared by all of them towards men for not being able to read minds... Whether it be not taking sex, replying to a text fast enough, ending a valid but vaguely awkward conversation,…
/r/MensRights22/07/25 04:19 AM
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It's funny how many women are willing to throw consent out of the window instead of just saying yes. It should never be more than zero... But this mixed messaging is what confuses men... Does he let subconscious nature take over, or does he restrain his desires and communicate them effectively? Obviously the latter is the best answer, but when people are platforming this type of messaging, they're not going to know what's normal or not. Men get their messages moderated or banned for less, and th…
/r/MensRights22/07/25 02:33 AM
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I hear you but think of it like this. If someone is going to this place, is that having thick skin? Men simply shouldn't be shamed for it obviously. Becoming selective about what thick skin is and when or not it should be used as a scapegoat when we're really trying to protect men's well-being is something that needs to be done better. I think it's completely valid to want to prevent people who could be considered at risk from being targeted. It's life or death for some of them.
/r/MensRights21/07/25 07:07 PM
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If men can afford to. Sure, I don't think it was free. A point we all need to consider always is that people aren't often granted time to heal. I know too many people who bought into health insurance and to this day have never used it. They clearly wanted to. But losing money to spend money on a deductible isn't something most men see as viable even if it's best for them. Another issue personally is vulnerability. As a man, going to a place like that is basically admitting the relationship got t…
/r/MensRights21/07/25 05:33 PM
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Willful neglect... If men fall behind "Who will marry these women, who will girls date, who will protect the women, who will provide, women struggle to find a man, where are the men women deserve, women outperform men", etc. "Getting men back" is just an insulting gesture... Because it's clear that they only want men to succeed for the sake of society and not for the men themselves. "For your girlfriend, wife, children, family" If men complain "Incels, man children, bitter misogynists that think…
/r/MensRights21/07/25 08:14 AM
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People don't seem to realize that people give words meaning. Gay didn't mean what it means now. Masculinity doesn't mean what it used to, feminism doesn't mean what it used to, etc. Masculinity used to just be someone's ability to command a space. Does everyone stop and look up when that person raises their voice? Masculine. Nowadays the word Machismo is more about masculinity than the actual word. Masculinity is currently being defined in the same way men are. Duty, suppression, thankless servi…
/r/MensRights21/07/25 12:23 AM
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Mid highs, and rock bottom lows. I don't relish in the idea of being alone, but I don't hate it either because I never forgot the people I did it for. Staying up days at a time, working nonstop, caring and cultivating responses that are easy to understand, accepting defamation, etc. It would be worth it for the right people. But the people waving the dollar at you know what you'll do for it if you want it. The people who I've attracted first were these kinds of people. The worst model of a fancy…
/r/MensRights20/07/25 01:58 PM
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Okay. Cya.
/r/MensRights20/07/25 11:11 AM
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I never said it was negative. I just pointed out that if that was enough to get everyone upset that it proves my point. Sex is sex. And as you mentioned just now, culture and family has absolutely suffered because of the lack of sex... And while I can't say science altogether has been lost, chemistry between men and women overall is seen more as kryptonite than a blessing now... What I'm saying is still leaning into the same thing. Because if sex is worth less than what it used to be, and men ar…
/r/MensRights20/07/25 09:15 AM
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I think it's that way in any situation generally. I'd always see online or hear of a guy beating on another guy when he walks in on the act, despite the fact it takes two people to cheat and it could actually be more reasonable to think the other guy has no idea. It's just how stupid society is... Deep down I feel like a lot of people in it don't think women have the capacity to think for themselves. So the aspect of some esteemed guy falling for the unhappy HR chick seems like some normal disne…
/r/MensRights20/07/25 08:20 AM
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If that's where everyone got tripped up... Then it just proved my point. Thanks for your testimony. If not about sex or because of sex then what do women actually do for you that a man can't?
/r/MensRights20/07/25 08:00 AM
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Those programs change the way women are allowed and encouraged to behave. From prioritized section 8, more privileges fo disability, collectibg child support instead of working things out, looking to onlyfans instead if getting a job, being hired or promoted to satisfy diversity quotas, and etc all create an atmosphere where women are allowed to behave in a less than ideal way because the world will always pick up the pieces... What we all feel doesn't change what is. Society is in fact creating…
/r/MensRights20/07/25 01:50 AM
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Time to get booed out of here... But society IS technically structurally oppressing women. But it's because they're being sold a lie. Society often frames women as this dainty half of the world that can't defend themselves or make decisions on their own. Whether it be drinking alcohol, marrying, dating, doing labour, walking the streets at night, creating tension for them, etc. The longer we establish this idea that women are these treasures we need to seek and hold onto like they are realistic …
/r/MensRights19/07/25 07:12 PM
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I've never seen it that way. Typically, the friends I've had that completely prioritize women are ones that will always drop male friends for a woman. I or others (in my friend groups) typically never saw it as a point of jealousy or an invitation to all hit on that woman because despite that friend's fixation of women over boys, we were actually his friend and not interested in jeopardizing that for a woman we wouldn't want to keep after getting ourselves. I'd even raise the idea that that woma…
/r/MensRights19/07/25 06:20 PM
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It's more than that. And unfortunately it's less about censorship and more about control for the sake of wealth transfer. (For starters, I don't blame Steam for this... As a company, Valve seems to only make moves to ensure it either grows {Steam Deck} or everything remains the same {This payment processing situation.} If Steam were to put themselves in a situation where they would belay Visa / MasterCard's rules, the forecasted consequences could cost them massive amounts of sales and even a sh…
/r/MensRights19/07/25 08:12 AM
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Lol I wasn't saying it to take away from anything you said. Maybe you didn't see it that way but I'd rather put it plainly. I don't really meet too many people anymore that want to know anything about me enough to ask... Nowadays people rather go through your phone or look you up. I definitely miss the days where people just ask questions they want the answer to.
/r/MensRights18/07/25 06:45 AM
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I think this is a hint at more things than stated. She learns you like a book A lot of the stuff you said under here is what girls do simply when they like you... Ironically men aren't really allowed to do any of this because a lot of what's under here can easily constitute as creepy stalker behavior. She gets caught or is about to get caught Something that also happens if you're interested in her past, or other things she doesn't want to talk about. She twists the story + She goes public and pl…
/r/MensRights18/07/25 06:27 AM
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I think there's a point where every man who's tried to dig themselves out of a hole they didn't deserve to be in can look around and say the hole they're digging out of might be better than what's outside... Figuratively if you're already in a hole they can't put you in another one. Something you need to understand about social media is that no one is better than you. That same person with a large following can be a lulcow who got lucky in life. Their opinions can be shared, or be empty like a Y…
/r/MensRights18/07/25 05:19 AM
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I think the reason is more important than the number. If a woman isn't purposefully being obnoxious of course she's going to have more dating options. If women know that men's "but she's hot" reasoning will no longer apply, it's likely they'll start tapping into that personality everyone talks so much about wanting but no one seems to have... I know you probably view or think everyone views "the wall" as some hole women fall into and are stuck in. But I think it's just when the cheat codes stop …
/r/MensRights17/07/25 12:33 AM
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Self worth and how the typical response is. Think about money. If money wasn't considered legal tender and had wavering amounts of value, everyone would be in a hurry to get rid of it to someone who was willing to buy it or even remotely interested in buying it... Men are taught by the world that they have no appreciated value, so they're basically running around trying to sell to anyone who would buy something the world seems to want them to do for free. It's very unhealthy because just like yo…
/r/MensRights16/07/25 11:47 PM
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Way to make someone never support the pro service. Let me pay to sound like the rest of the bots on the internet...
/r/MensRights16/07/25 09:29 PM
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It wasn't something I cared about until I saw girls talk about it as if it was a choice every man could make for themselves... It's like the astrology stuff. Where you just hear a bunch of people swoon over you or swear you off for what you are and not who you are. Sorry I was born today? You know... At the end of the day the choice was made typically because of someone else. My father told me he was made aware that it was cleaner and more hygenic, and that's what made his parents and him do the…
/r/MensRights16/07/25 09:26 PM
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Forever. Also I'm not a woman, so I'm sorry. I need to start with the fact that I don't agree with it. But it works. If we were both equally as responsible for our own safety women wouldn't dress provocatively around strangers, or take swings at people they wouldn't ever be able to defend themselves against. They wouldn't rely on a bar or club scene to meet people, or actively date people who make them hate all men, create families with men who have several signs that they're unfit parents. Obvi…
/r/MensRights16/07/25 01:16 AM
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(This is me responding to the video like some idiot who doesn't know how to shut up in a theater, ignore it lol) Smh. How is saying no to handing over your phone dominance? I don't want to give you my phone. It's not that deep. Also the teacher complaining about kids making sexualized jokes... Wouldn't those same kids make racist jokes if you were a certain race? Do they hate women or are they just being shithead trolls? I'm not sure it seems so apparent because there aren't that many male teach…
/r/MensRights15/07/25 12:11 PM
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Even outside of the physical... If the mindset was the same, they'd have to compete with their own ideas... The irony though, is that those women should be better off because at least they know how much of their personal rhetoric is bullshit and what they actually want, and can use that in courting. But that also means their outbursts would be less understandable too. Raising your hand to something you should completely understand is on the same level as raising your hand against a child, becaus…
/r/MensRights14/07/25 08:30 PM
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You are probably right about the women not caring. My father had sat me down and told me when I was about 6 that I was going to have take shit from all the women in my life simply because I was a man... To this day it's still a conversation that makes me feel sour. And given the outcome of his current life, I wonder how little even he feels his own temperament has served him. I wasn't really given the ability to cry, and when surrounded by women, it was a very bad idea to do that too. Being gove…
/r/MensRights14/07/25 08:07 PM
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I wish Google translate broke some of that up... But I think you're honestly in a golden position to feel this way. I and many other people aren't going to tell you to hurry up and go outside so the UAF (Ukrainian Abduction Force) can grab you. I also agree that there's not much to do outdoors anymore, at least not for free... Hanging out for free has basically become loitering. Where despite the fact it used to be normal, paying money for being there at least grants you the feeling of entitleme…
/r/MensRights14/07/25 12:53 PM
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I think it's instilled in a lot of men that if they need help they're weak. They can't cry, complain, make excuses or be given sympathy. If nobody does anything when you cry but make it worse, why would you ever want to cry? If women cared about men's issues and weren't trained to retort with things like "but women have it worse" or "blame the patriarchy" and other dismissive language, we would all feel the need to complain less because we'd be aware that others around us are going through it to…
/r/MensRights14/07/25 12:35 PM
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Pay attention to the beginning of what you chose to address... It's there for a reason. It sounds impossible because it is. You're making a pass at how it could make sense, rather than paying attention to the fact that the things I mentioned beyond the concrete "averages" are contradictions that simply expect the men to change because he essentially passed the test and can be normal or selfish now. I didn't say it to be upset about what it is, but illustrate how wavering the expectations can be …
/r/MensRights14/07/25 11:59 AM
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You're never going to get those things online, and offline those things are conditional. You'll only get it from some women and only if she thinks you'll start dating her because of it. It's similar to how women feel about men except men are a lot less selfish about expressing it. Men aren't going to protect provide and love women who won't reciprocate. And that upsets women enough to get online and tell the world that they're not doing that, but they still want you to do it. Women can be enough…
/r/MensRights14/07/25 04:59 AM
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I'm not a woman so the effect is less than ideal. I'd imagine if I had a specific hair, skin tone or applicable gender that it would mean a little more because there would likely be products that would work for me in there, but there already are... I guess it might attract a sexist otherwise. It's not like they're saying family owned business or mom and pop shop... Where you can see the people who are benefitting from your business. If prices and quality was comparable I'd much rather shop at th…
/r/MensRights13/07/25 10:50 PM
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I think a bigger issue is money for men, and attraction and respect for women. If women respected all men in the same way men respect women, the amount of effort or time it would take to be heard would decrease and the choices women care about or finally see would not depend solely on them having a son, or meeting the man of their dreams. Aside from overwhelming rejection from men, the above two things seem to be the only factors that matter. "Every man sucks but my man" has more meaning than pe…
/r/MensRights13/07/25 10:13 PM
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You're never going to solve a problem if the other side doesn't care. If the varsity scouts aren't looking at you and nobody is saying "Look, that guy is GOOD!" you think you're getting a jacket? No. Feminists are the varsity scouts if that's who you're trying to convince, and if you're not, the small minority of women who aren't are... And what will they do? Unlike the other groups, women can come in here and say whatever. And typically the talkative ones who do are very angry and just want to …
/r/MensRights12/07/25 10:43 PM
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By extension yeah. It just feels like a support women at any cost sort of thing, and if it came down to it, women probably would much rather have abusive women than abusive men. Rather than making a motion for abuse altogether to stop. So it kind of returns to the women good men bad situation. Where even a woman just as bad as a similar man is seen as less bad simply because she's a woman. Don't know what to do about that sadly.
/r/MensRights12/07/25 10:29 PM
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I don't think women think it's okay, they've just conditioned society to pivot from judging women with a wide lens despite men needing to live through that. They're judged individually, and we aren't. When men are wary of all women it's, "who hurt you?" "nawalt" or you're an incel, misogynist, etc. You're policed with accepted terms to control the narrative that YOU don't have any grounds to behave the same way they do despite the fact that people who invoke the feeling of fear exist on both sid…
/r/MensRights12/07/25 08:57 PM
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It's always hilarious because the same world that allows women to slut it up anywhere is the same place that will tell everyone else on the planet to not do self promotion. And if they did self promote, they want you to buy whatever ad service to do it. Unfortunately because most people are horny, they promote the people they want for free already. Meanwhile everyone else has to be more crafty than, "click here for my spicy site".
/r/MensRights11/07/25 06:22 PM
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Its a social issue. The crazy things you hear women say like "manifesting a man" might sound crazy, but that's what they're collectively doing every moment of every day. It sounds impossible because it is. The "averages," 1% men, tall 6 figure earning young generous and strong. He's got to be a resolute man with a grounded unwavering opinion... But also a feminist. He's got to care deeply for and protect every woman... Until I'm dating him because he's mine now. He's got to work an amazing job a…
/r/MensRights11/07/25 12:12 AM
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Sometimes the worst place you can be is right where you are. And men are often forced to go to ground zero and sit there. Covered in ash and surrounded by people panicking to get to their loved ones. But if they have no loved ones they can go to... What's the hurry? No reason to leave that dark place if it's the only place he's welcome. Fear and low self esteem isn't really the cause... Its the effect. If you've got bad teeth the last thing you want to do in a room full of comedians is smile... …
/r/MensRights10/07/25 10:03 AM
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How are women and girls the primary victims of Ukraine when they can leave? Did something change? I don't see anyone ripping them off the street and stuffing them into a van. Shows how much they care for their boys... Just fatten em up for the slaughter huh? Get them nice strong and obedient so the van people can take them when they grow up?
/r/MensRights09/07/25 03:55 PM
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I want this... But only if it's properly enforced. For example, a lot of dudes have prenuptials that get thrown out when they need them most. The last thing I want is for men to get comfortable with a rule like this and be treated the same. Because then it'll just be some guy getting clotheslined With responsibility they spent nine months swearing they wouldn't have... But there honestly might be circumstances where the woman would withhold this information, especially if it means she could basi…
/r/MensRights09/07/25 10:35 AM
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I spoke about this the other day... It's never going to be easy when your positive attraction to a woman is accompanied by a boner. Women have the ability to exist and act in that unadulterated attraction in plain sight while men are basically forced to operate at or below about 35% to not draw disgust from people by having a boner... (Even in consensual situations like being close or a woman purposefully rubbing up against you to feel it, you would see people look at your privates to see if you…
/r/MensRights08/07/25 08:54 PM
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If anything... It feels like women like that just don't want to be or look like what men respond to, so they shame the men into considering them. It's similar to people who will do everything but apologize, or the people who will break up with someone who wanted them to do, or do more of something, and then finally do that thing for someone else. We don't realize that behavior like that is going to lead everyone to believe that if you're not going to do something, that they're better off asking …
/r/MensRights08/07/25 08:34 PM
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No... If you don't realize what feminism has done to men, it has made every man into a target and said "We can't find the monster, YOU find the monster, or you're the monster." So now a bunch of falsely accused men are looking across the horizon doing women's job of finding the enemy and pointing it out... Getting nothing in return but showing them that it wasn't them... This time. Women who paint men as the enemy have been greatly rewarded in doing so... Because it's made an ally of all men who…
/r/MensRights08/07/25 06:24 AM
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If whatever you're instigated to consider leads to exclusively men's own harm or death for the sake of a group ultimately pertaining to more than men, It's male disposability. Like getting drafted, or working a dangerous job no one wants to work, being selected to do strenuous work all of the time because you're the only man, taking long hours for your family, protecting random people in a dire situation, allowing other classes of people to blanketly escape before you ("women and children"), man…
/r/MensRights07/07/25 11:19 PM
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I think positioning dictates treatment too. traditional norms affects society even behaviour of people in great extend Maybe you meant the same thing I'm about to say. As a man, loss is the biggest worry. Typically you're paying for everything to happen. You pay for the relationship to start, to maintain it, sustain the happiness in everyone involved, defend your family from negative influence, and ultimately protect your continuous investments from being a complete waste. And think of what soci…
/r/MensRights07/07/25 10:51 PM
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Why wouldn't I care? The fact that it has happened at least once has left men's treatment in shambles. Did you not see what happened in another topic? Where one man being a creepy pedophile has made it where all male caretakers in certain places in Australia cannot do specific parts of their job anymore? Even if I didn't care about women at all, it would still be a priority to ultimately protect them, to by extension, protect me. Do you understand?
/r/MensRights07/07/25 10:30 PM
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Feminists aren't getting better at anything in my opinion... The problem is that they're inserting themselves in areas and discussions giving hypotheticals and boogeymen arguments, where arguing against them is a loss in itself. When they put the boogeyman down, to them you're not defending yourself, you're defending the boogeyman. Man vs Bear. Boogeyman, defending yourself against being unconscionably seen as harmful looks like you defending harmful behavior to them. If they won't acknowledge y…
/r/MensRights07/07/25 04:37 PM
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Lol... I don't think you get what I said. I'm saying THEY most likely would drop all the shit they're only checking men for, if they just stop hiring men... Not saying women shouldn't be checked. I'm not greenlighting pedo shit dude. Check your fire... Most of the female creeps are probably teaching at some job right now... Don't try to act all high and mighty by pointing at me.
/r/MensRights07/07/25 04:22 PM
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It's also because guys don't care about what a woman makes. If you're somewhere and some cute homeless girl comes around and at least comes off as someone level headed, you're likely able to consider her. Even more realistically, if putting a roof over someone's head was the only ingredient needed to cook up some cheeks, there'd likely be guys doing that too. When women's first questions for men are: where do you work, do you own a home, what car are you pushing... Homeless guys are just as disq…
/r/MensRights07/07/25 12:06 PM
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If you're okay with stomaching the idea that you'll get a girlfriend, and have a kid to bond with too, that's something you can do. But keep in mind that the "this will never be your kid" is going to cut deep. Obviously it's not your kid, but now it's been made clear to you that that woman will never respect you in the same way she would a biological father. You're a permanant substitute teacher. You can only do what someone else told you to do... a babysitter who actually has to suffer the resp…
/r/MensRights07/07/25 11:45 AM
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There seems to be some subconscious idea for some men that if there's never going to be a woman around, it's a coping activity, sports seem to be a rare exception. Some women don't help the situation either. If you're not uncomfortable around women or they're trying to get your attention and not getting it, she'll probably ask if you're gay. And if she thinks you're gay and likes you, she probably won't talk to you. Hanging out with gay friends might make them look gay, and they'll be ignored mo…
/r/MensRights07/07/25 11:02 AM
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I figured this would be an issue... And nowhere I see is mentioning or thinking of any job security for these men because of the lack of being able to serve the full list of duties a child needs. If there's no job security, it's likely these men will be put out due to it not being efficient to hire security exclusively for men who make up a very small percentage of that workforce, and not instead have it be completely women. They'd probably not feel the need to enforce the CCTV stuff and etc if …
/r/MensRights07/07/25 02:22 AM
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Typically the conversation can be had with a single word. Hypergamy I still remember being in school seeing most of the girls with their head down texting some grown ass man the whole school day. We didn't stand a chance, no car, no money, no control of our time, or reliably empty house to actually do anything. Personally that was the worst of it. But there really isn't anything to talk about. Most guys get on the grind because that's what they likely saw. Nobody pulls women aside and says, what…
/r/MensRights05/07/25 11:49 PM
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I think we all need to think with relativity when we think of the term "women are the prize." What game are we playing for this prize? Are we screaming at a claw machine that doesn't want to hold on? Guessing random numbers to a lottery? Scratching off tickets that are predetermined? Playing a rigged game in a fair? Guessing the number of beans in a jar? Getting beat by AI that reads inputs before they execute on screen? At the end of the day, we're distracted by the games, not realizing that be…
/r/MensRights05/07/25 11:26 PM
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This is like someone firing a gun at the start of a race and nobody moving... Or kids taking a test looking at each other confused mouthing "All the answers are A?" So they don't get into trouble.
/r/MensRights05/07/25 10:56 PM
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The only thing wrong you did was go back to pick them up. You were disrespected because you didn't respect yourself. You're the sober one, you can trust your eyes. You are well within your rights to make the executive decision to leave everyone behind because what you came for stopped being worth it. This isn't a sports team, or a group job... You don't stick it out for the team, because clearly the only person that really cared was you. You need to get used to not putting yourself through situa…
/r/MensRights05/07/25 10:20 PM
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I feel like an avenue we also never get to is the anatomy one. Women can be deathly attracted to someone and the messages she could exhibit never seem harmful. She could be flushed, stuttering, shaking, become touchy, incredibly suggestive and other details we cannot see... Perhaps satisfying her own urges through her current actions. While men are typically shamed for that same level of attraction because it's accompanied by a growing penis. Men know that that level of attraction is going to ma…
/r/MensRights05/07/25 10:14 PM
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If you're on higher ground, chances are, you're going to see more grass. Women are doing better than they've ever been, so they're going to see more opportunities than they used to. A lot of men have honestly lost the motivation to continue struggling. House prices out of control after COVID, vehicle prices the same, tarriffs increasing costs overall, food prices ridiculous. All while vocal women are promoting the idea of men needing to pay bills to speak to them romantically, CashApp solicitati…
/r/MensRights05/07/25 09:43 PM
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It's inhuman, and flagrantly selective... It looks more like a diary entry than an informative piece. Someone telling themselves how something is, rather than speaking to another of another. The "Lost Boys" are depicted as unnatural beasts... Anomalies born from symptoms we face every day, but instead of associating the stress of living a terrible life with an absent support system (while being a goddamn child to young adult), it Is written to relate that behavior to everything they don't care a…
/r/MensRights05/07/25 12:34 PM
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Can we have the Posco Act everywhere please?
/r/MensRights05/07/25 11:59 AM
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It's MORE contradictory because why would you want to procreate with someone you not only feel is a predator, but incestuous as well... ... Perhaps you mean other people. And in that case, typically the way you can see if people are competent, is by giving them the opportunity, though because of one... Men there have lost that opportunity.
/r/MensRights05/07/25 03:46 AM
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This isn't a dig at your reply, but it feels like this is a self devouring snake. If men aren't going to be allowed to do specific types of nurturing care, why would people hire them instead of women? And if they're not hired encouraged or respected to do these things, why do them? I wonder if acts like this will revitalize the idea that women are the more nurturing sex again, something that probably only existed because men had other responsibilities and it was left for the women to do, not bec…
/r/MensRights05/07/25 03:26 AM
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Ladies and gentlemen!!!! How one man turns into: ALL MEN!
/r/MensRights05/07/25 03:01 AM
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I'd say it was because men act on their sexuality, but women hate men watching porn, but support consuming Onlyfans, they hate creeps, but are fully in support of strip clubs, they hate men trying to get cheap sex, but support prostitution. That changes my opinion. It feels like a value problem. In the same way women are highly offended if a guy she doesn't like talks to her, it's because she feels worth more than that... Onlyfans workers set their price, strippers negotiate with attention given…
/r/MensRights05/07/25 02:34 AM
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Black people also go through this... Hearing and seeing tales of crime, fatherlessness, abuse, poverty, violence, low expectations, and being surrounded by people who have experienced that or are at least are aware of it, a bad dad, mom, both, being judged poorly by their peers, and unfairly putting that burden on them as an entire race and or sex. Everyone wants to get away from it. It's easier. To think, I can just switch teams, be a different race, be a different sex, and then be rid of the p…
/r/MensRights05/07/25 02:04 AM
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Expectations... Men are expected to live alone, not be a mommas boy, have survival skills, be independent, have a surplus of income, and ultimately be his own entity. No super close friends, no group ideals, nothing to protect or serve except his family. Because men are tasked to be individuals, they pick up qualities or traits that compliment what they were taught. Could be anything. Blue pill, red pill, black, simp, "alpha male"... Likely a unique mix of everything, coated in whatever he think…
/r/MensRights04/07/25 02:41 PM
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A lot of people in general only interact when they disagree... It's probably never going to feel like any of us are on anyone's side as long as the internet keeps operating that way... That'll be a tough ask.
/r/MensRights04/07/25 12:37 PM
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Are people antagonizing non man hating women? Speaking against the left doesn't mean you support the right... The left is pretending to care, we're calling it out. The right isn't doing anything in that regard, so nothing is being said. Why would you want support from people who it would appear would only do it tentatively? If men need help, people should want to help them, no? It's like we as men expect women to check our ID for political reasons before caring to administer aid... Should firefi…
/r/MensRights04/07/25 12:23 PM
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I think the only side that'll take it seriously is the one who actually has a stake in it. Politicians seem pretty immune to allegations. So it probably doesn't matter to either side aside from getting votes... And you see how one side chose to handle that... At this point they should invest 50 million dollars into cheating in the next election...
/r/MensRights04/07/25 12:05 PM
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I think the term has lost value over time because a lot of family structure is broken... While it's still correct that it's misandrist, it just doesn't mean as much as it used to. When I hear it I just think of declining birth rates and care a little less about it... We typically cared about women in that regard because they are (, still are,) the people needed to repopulate, to ensure the future is a reality. But if that's not a priority, then "women and children" shouldn't be a priority. Child…
/r/MensRights04/07/25 10:55 AM
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Another topic policing the group... What's the point of talking if you've already overcome what made you want to speak? If men need to not be angry before they come here, why would they even come here? If I've already come to terms with how I'll get treated, I'm done talking, I'm never coming back. It's why most men don't bother strolling into women's spaces to talk anymore, there's nothing worth saying and no one there worth talking to. I swear I want a tag for threads like this labelled "I hop…
/r/MensRights04/07/25 10:41 AM
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I wonder why their partners stick by them... If my wife or whatever was diddling kids she'd be walking to the courtroom by herself. I'm not showing any form of support for that. She says she's being hunted... After literally hunting a child? Hypocracy. People leer at and follow non criminals all the time, and nobody gives a shit about what they have to say. Especially single fathers...
/r/MensRights04/07/25 12:41 AM
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Bye? It's controlling to be in a situation where rather than intelligently discuss differing points, you're instead forced to do what she wants or no relationship.
/r/MensRights03/07/25 02:47 AM
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Overwhelming was used specifically to outline that the amount is very high, the range of attractive bodies to men are socially larger than for women. As thick women, chubby women, petite women, short women, and for others even simply fat women could constitute as attractive. Another factor you've completely ignored is that the implication for female disgust is often the simple fact that those images were sent unprovoked. I'd imagine there are a few men who were well within their thoughts to send…
/r/MensRights02/07/25 06:35 PM
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There's a level of dishonesty to the issue. I feel like the majority of "dad bod" enjoyers and "man beard" lovers are in a position that serves as more of a counter for their shotgun reaction to attraction... In a same way that when a guy goes outside looking really good a few women make it their purpose to tell him he's not all that, or isn't that cute. While men don't do this. Jason mammoa or Henry Cavil aren't owners of dad bods. Neither are bearded beyond recognition. But they're considered …
/r/MensRights02/07/25 06:00 PM
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It's irritating to see the same cases men can cheat be made for women without any level of deterrent. It also annoys me because men are typically the ones invested into the relationship up until and typically beyond a child being born, and those investments as well as government safeguards create an atmosphere that punishes men for voiding that contract. Plainly put, because men are basically living and breathing the sunk cost fallacy when in faltering relationships, they're more likely to stay …
/r/MensRights02/07/25 05:50 PM
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I think it's difficult because women are everywhere in People's lives. Teachers, HR, Babysitters, Tutors, service workers, counselors. Women will likely defend women they don't even know in a breakup or fight, sometimes even if they cheated. Give you grief if you don't like something about a girl that upsets them. Assume they're worth spoiling just to talk to, protecting, providing, etc. I know you might feel like some of the things I said are indirect, the general idea that scrutiny towards a w…
/r/MensRights02/07/25 12:01 PM
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I can't argue with that. I guess if I were to articulate better about the problem... We have incels we need to talk to, black pillers, people who feel hopeless on the matter. And unlike women who hate men for sport because it gets them thousands of hearts and a few ozs of male tears, the men who say they hate women... Typically don't. I feel like the idea of initially policed language could gatekeep people who probably need help the most... As some of those groups are convinced women and the sys…
/r/MensRights02/07/25 06:23 AM
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I'm not missing your point at all. Some people have messages beneath that hatred that need to be heard. And we seem to be all to happy to let every preferred group spit and kick on everything and everyone else just to make a point. Regardless if it's from a place of hate or not, the fact that they've been given a platform to speak lets them communicate. Men are angry too. They should be able to speak. Regardless if it's your intent to appease the feminists or simply police the men into framing t…
/r/MensRights02/07/25 06:06 AM
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I think most times I've ever seen a woman want to be naked publicly is for protest. It also needs to be stated that topless is what I'm talking about. I don't often see women or men move fully nude in public. I think another aspect that needs to be explored is the opinion that male nudity isn't welcome. In the same fashion that women would reject unsolicited pictures of nude men. Men would seldom have that overwhelming disgust for women doing the same. So it's not really about what's allowed and…
/r/MensRights02/07/25 05:51 AM
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I'm going to say it plainly... It's impossible. Not because it can't be done, but because the people you're worried about pissing off have no issue scrolling back eons to find something they can use against you. Like comedians having to apologize for jokes they made back when it was perfectly acceptable to make them. So all you're going to end up doing is tone policing other men for women (or other men) who never really gave enough of a shit to begin with. If those people need a safe yellow bric…
/r/MensRights02/07/25 05:36 AM
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I think sometimes it's right to operate from a perspective that is accurate. There are people out there that are moved to completely disagree with us because they're convinced by other subs that this one is bad. People are already encouraged to repent their contributions here by deleting everything they've ever said here just to be welcome in those places again instead of remain banned. Arguments from the outside typically allude to: feminism isn't bad, you're just mad. Without ever allowing the…
/r/MensRights02/07/25 01:48 AM
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I think the annoying part about women outearning men is that they're not going to notice. If women are getting their hair nails and makeup done, buying designer stuff, getting fancy cars, dining out, getting robbed by mechanics and other service fees, or buying houses they can't really afford. It doesn't matter how much money they make... Obviously not all women applies here. But when additional unnecessary costs are factored in. They're likely never going to accomplish what men can with less mo…
/r/MensRights30/06/25 10:24 PM
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They're not going to support a system that regards them as part of a family that is as far as I recall, ultimately led by the man, before God of course. Feminists don't like that. When you see them view motherhood as unpaid labor, it should say more than enough about how they view life... Meanwhile a video with men being ripped off the street to serve in war would probably be addressed with "men created the system"...
/r/MensRights30/06/25 07:43 PM
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The people misandry effects most are the same people that appear as harmful animals to women. For example, man vs bear. To be brief, a bear that just ate its fill is likely less dangerous, but society refuses to make that relative correlation to men. If a man is not hungry, he'll likely not attack either. But men ARE hungry, and that's what makes them seem dangerous. Men are in need of sustenance. Socially, mentally, sexually, domestically. And they don't have it. Few to no friends, support, int…
/r/MensRights29/06/25 11:22 PM
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It's control. They don't want to give you anything. You're a slave. If nobody gives you anything, if everyone sees you as garbage and will let you die in plain sight, any woman's favor, whether it be a word of concern, charity, a bit of spending, perhaps a gesture of love, a look, stare, or opportunity to approach, they feel is deemed as a blessing to the man. "Give an ugly guy a chance, he'll think he rules the world." Or in other words, how dare you not worship me endlessly for the opportunity…
/r/MensRights29/06/25 12:41 AM
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Because it isn't directly important to them. Or they think they shouldn't have to do it. Like a mess on the floor no one wants to pick up... A subconscious question that will surface is: "Why do I have to pick up something everyone else sees too?" Think about someone getting bullied, nowadays most people won't say a word. Even now, America's president is someone who states you can grab people by the pussy when you're famous, they let you do it. But who are they yelling at? Who are they policing?…
/r/MensRights29/06/25 12:28 AM
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In a case like that I'll just be a shit and say that if they can get everyone to hate me I can have the room to myself. If people are going to give you shit just give it back. You holding it in can make you a worse person to people who did nothing to you. I do in fact not want to be the old stereotypical man who slugs his wife because he had a bad day at work. So when I get shit from people who don't like my attitude, I typically explain that I don't take my frustrations home, so if you're going…
/r/MensRights28/06/25 02:36 AM
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The article...
/r/MensRights28/06/25 02:19 AM
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11 years ago... At the end of the day, it reveals how long the problem has existed, and how long it has been in full color. But it also reveals that if that were actually the championing opinion, we should have seen a lot more healthy interaction from women, even in here, rather than some coming and making a topic with backhanded agendas that is soon revealed when being called out for inconsistent expectations...
/r/MensRights27/06/25 09:33 PM
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If you convince everyone else they're ugly, when you then call them ugly, they'll be quiet. Women made men feel like the enemy, so saying such to them makes most of them reflect in the same fashion as someone who feels ugly being called ugly. Long story short she just wants you to shut up and doesn't have a better reason to so she's calling you ugly.
/r/MensRights27/06/25 09:05 PM
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There are people in here saying rehabilitation is the answer... Not realizing that functioning society serves as it's own rehabilitation. We're not jumping on women who satisfy our basic instincts without permission because society taught us not to. We're not jumping in random women's DMs every time she says things we like because society told us not to. We're not asking people out at work because society told us not to. We're not catcalling and cold approaching women because society taught us n…
/r/MensRights27/06/25 08:42 PM
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Conversations aren't facilitated the same way anymore either. Reddit is basically the only not primarily vacuum dominated echo chamber. But while it isn't that, you're typically going to go where you're wanted. If every rational point you make is karma bombed with no engagement whatsoever because that community wants to be a vacuum, why would you keep participating? The group has nothing to change how you feel except for the fact that they can bury your opinion for reasons they are too chicken t…
/r/MensRights27/06/25 06:31 PM
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"It's worse than rape" but you were actually raped? Seriously? Is that same person going to say that hate on sexism and racism is worse than actually doing the thing? It's like seeing the people who dealt with sexual abuse and mistreatment blaming everyone else but the actual person who did it. Why are people this stupid? If he thinks it's funny and it's his fantasy, then he needs to adopt what desperate girls say sometimes. "You can't rape the willing." Having your fantasy be a psychological an…
/r/MensRights27/06/25 06:14 PM
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It makes me think of those religious stories, where a king would kill male children in fear one could have been Jesus. Except now women destroy boys and men for things they've never done. And in most cases, the world is in full support.
/r/MensRights26/06/25 10:14 PM
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It'll always be this way until people accept the fact that the evil is typically born from weakness. And feminism operates on exposing that weakness to get women to fight. The difference between a man backhanding a woman, and a woman pouring boiling grits on him, hitting him with a car, pan, object, chopping his reproductive organs off, poisoning him, hiring a hitman, false accusation, taking all of his money, telling him children that aren't his belongs to him, publicly ridiculing him and etc a…
/r/MensRights26/06/25 02:30 PM
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I think another issue is how society frames sexuality. Men are basically frowned upon sexualizing women they see publicly, so "the cute girl at work" isn't really material because we're taught that women aren't objects. So men go to places where those women are objectifying themselves and use that as material. I don't think women have that same standard, so all star athlete or grey sweatpants guy is a target for the bad dragon ritual... While men get shamed for glancing at women at the gym or th…
/r/MensRights24/06/25 11:49 PM
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Guycry looks like a place for guys to post things that make them cry. Last time I looked at it it seemed like pet, partner, child and family deaths. Not being welcome... I think a lot of men deal with this. And with the loss of most forums, and a lot of groups being private social clubs like discord and gaming friend lists, losing access or appeal from those people leads you to lose every ounce of conversational value. If every relationship you have with people is private, you basically have to …
/r/MensRights21/06/25 09:55 PM
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There's nothing misogynistic about pointing out a fact. If I said there's no jobs out there but I got more call backs, interviews, second interviews etc, but turned them all down, would you say it's the same issue as someone who is equally skilled but doesn't get a single call back, has their applications ghosted, and has no interview calls? One person is choosing to lose, and the other doesn't have a choice. Saying I'm hungry with a full fridge and pantry isn't the same as having an empty fridg…
/r/MensRights21/06/25 09:35 PM
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It's sad how they don't even notice most women don't even wait for their husbands to die to move on... From unhappy wives to women married to soldiers. So the same people who are saying "Wahh a man replaced something that's gone!" Are likely the same people who get a replacement when they have a perfectly functioning thing still in their service... They're probably also the same people who will be okay if a woman remarried fast for the sake of having bills paid, not seeing how objective that mak…
/r/MensRights21/06/25 09:12 PM
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Self love shouldn't be contingent on those people bettering society, and if it is, those people are saying their desire indirectly... That they want you to care about yourselves only for the purpose of you being a slave for the others. Self love is also a very hard thing for men because everything a man does or doesn't do is scrutinized. Did he pay on the date, did he text me if I got home, did he perform well in bed, answer my hypothetical trap question correctly, protect me regardless of if I …
/r/MensRights21/06/25 04:04 PM
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I think if I were to summarize your points. I could use services. 1) A vending machine. Let's say you put coins into that machine, and get nothing back. No coin return, no juice, no snack. There's no service number, nothing. The world discourages you from tipping the machine until you get something to fall out, but it doesn't seem to care if you get nothing. 2) The service industry, namely delivery. Let's say there were services that deliver food. You buy it, they deliver it wrong, something is …
/r/MensRights18/06/25 06:04 PM
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The problem is twofold with the example because when someone innocent is called guilty, they try to prove their innocence or point in a direction they feel is more appropriate of that judgement. Think of the way some men feel they have to talk. They make a statement, and have to make it clear that pedos rapists etc aren't in the mix, or others, who will throw pocket sand at the manosphere, incels, Blackpill and etc just to have their statements held above water long enough to be processed by the…
/r/MensRights18/06/25 05:07 PM
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It just looks like a bunch of people who went to college to get fancy degrees just to say back some of the things we've been saying either with a feminist twist, or just saying it's bad for a free bit of upvotes. ... Like they're discussing some type of movie or film where everyone they're mentioning is some fictional being without a reason to behave or feel the way that they do. Why did they even go to school? Look, if men need anything, it's for people who should be of social and psychological…
/r/MensRights17/06/25 11:44 PM
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Who would have known that a group of people constantly critiqued and policed would actually be better than they look when approached with a wider lens? Captain Obvious has entered the chat.
/r/MensRights15/06/25 07:29 PM
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I think you might not be seeing the trap you're walking into. You're basically telling men to march for appreciation, but telling them to dress in attire of jobs that should already be appreciated. The dirty jobs, construction, plumbing, maintenence, oil workers, drill operators, coal miners, soldiers etc. But there are a lot of men who don't do, or don't want to do those jobs, and those people will essentially be marching in cosplay to represent a man that people should respect, while not being…
/r/MensRights15/06/25 03:50 AM
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I think the difference is that women like that view all men as a burden. And feel like announcing their detachment from men is a invocation that other women should synergize with to support their decision. While men typically voice their concerns in a way that relates to, yeah I'd love to win the lottery but it's so likely to lose that you're literally better off not playing. It doesn't discredit women in the same way, and kind of takes a jab at his own luck, rather than to say all women are bad…
/r/MensRights14/06/25 08:03 PM
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It seems the presumption is that only the men doing this would be the creepy ones in the situation. World perception is basically the short answer. Men bad women good. Fact is: It's predatory.
/r/MensRights14/06/25 07:36 PM
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Well an easy eye-roll for most guys is talking to a girl who can't go two sentences without saying my husband, my boyfriend, or something equivalent to it. I'm sure a lot of men would be ecstatic if that shit became less common. So I'm definitely all for women decentering men. Hurry up, lol. But I do agree... Women complaining about being objectified and sexualized while having absolutely no redeemable personality traits on display. Complaining men only talk about their job but those are one of …
/r/MensRights13/06/25 11:28 PM
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If everyone felt being racist would get them 750,000 dollars... There probably would be a lot of racists. What I mean is everyone has a price and for some, it's low. Seeing women practically spit on men for fame is not only a platform builder for them, but what they feel is empowering and independence. All they look like to me is children screaming back at their parents about how they can do something alone as if we should be upset, and most men are genuinely happy women can achieve things. What…
/r/MensRights13/06/25 11:10 PM
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If you're wearing the enemy flag (men) and have to convince every woman you're not the enemy... You're going to get tired. The reason I say that is because when you're not gunning for something that you feel grossly benefits you. Like getting laid, getting a girlfriend, getting married etc, you're a lot more likely to run into the enemy camp than someone who just wants to make friends and have healthy relationships with everyone. Big dick energy, and small dick energy are perfect terms to descri…
/r/MensRights13/06/25 07:45 PM
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Not likely. We had that old experiment with Norah Vincent, and video evidence of women she was talking to (while presenting as a man) flipping 180 when she came clean about what she was doing. People who know they're being hurtful aren't going to understand how harmful their behavior is if they know their target was wrong. Friendly fire is still fire, but what happens right after? They take up their guns and point the same weapon they're concerned about hurting their allies with... At someone el…
/r/MensRights13/06/25 02:32 PM
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There's nothing "feminine" about respecting a woman's space... And this is to point out that regular men fall into this space. The peak male that women break all of their own rules for don't apply to any of this. Problem is that women who perpetuate this shit don't respect themselves. They think saying no is cute and think guys are soft when they come back around for a retry and guys have it etched in stone that "NO MEANS NO". All the stupid chick flicks and romance books depict men who don't li…
/r/MensRights13/06/25 01:48 PM
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Does it make you feel better trying to insult people who don't want to suffer?
/r/MensRights12/06/25 04:23 PM
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I think it would be more productive if you simply understood the process and why people take that path instead of insulting them for doing it. Saying "not everyone" is a quest that requires people to suffer through combing through people who do act that way, meanwhile understanding what they do, and how they work, can spare you the drama of doing that and still allow you to find people who aren't caught up in the garbage... ... Provided those people don't think they're "NPCs" for trying to take …
/r/MensRights12/06/25 04:22 PM
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I never said it was. But I'd imagine there is some unspoken trauma. Just how some children can turn things they've held onto for years back on their parents when they have the ability to do so. Regardless of if it were healthy or not. You even have worse cases of that... Where people take the behaviors of their parents, and instead of repeat that behavior to them, they do it to their own children and husbands... And if that's what you are actually referencing in your post... Yeah. No part of tha…
/r/MensRights12/06/25 09:56 AM
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Typically... I take the relative idea of new (promotion into) leadership to give me an idea of how to feel. For example, A new manager or process assistant might be quick to swing down on people for not meeting expectations rather than being the liaison between the workers and the corporate body to eliminate barriers, also not realizing that there are lives being directly effected by their behavior... In the same way it takes a while, or a few bites (or scratches), for a child to understand that…
/r/MensRights12/06/25 09:48 AM
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Are you stupid? Do you know what the fucking pretense to these words are? Do you understand that the context to the post both OP and reply do not pertain to drugs, but the goddamn results? Get the fuck out of my face. Nothing about buying an iPhone or getting shoes that won't get you laughed out of class is addictive if people weren't trendchasing enough to make it a requirement to be normal. Good fucking bye.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 07:58 AM
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How is testimonials from actual women online rage bait? https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/houston-woman-brick-hit-roda-osman-gofundme-theft-rcna134552 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-say-riders-didn-t-help-woman-raped-train-does-n1281998 You can find the Tik Tok crap literally everywhere. Facts aren't rage bait. Stop wasting my time.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 06:15 AM
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I don't think many men aren't a fan of it. It's kind of in the "If it don't apply let it fly" category. And unfortunately men like that feel they're in a position where shitting on men will get them further. At the end of they day. I think it's good, but not that it's good. It's good for the men to know who would sooner cut them down for any woman before him. I've known friends like this, family even. Content creators relish the idea of punching down as well. And knowing that that was the reason…
/r/MensRights12/06/25 06:11 AM
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If feminism isn't pertaining to normal life than what's the fucking purpose? Feminism isn't some stupid in group, it's by women, for women. Trying to seperate women from the fact that that's a group that is for all of them by design is a weak angle. Do me a solid and be stupid somewhere else.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 06:02 AM
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I wish I knew how... As it is, men are kind of in a position where approaching children is never going to look good... So I really don't know what to do there. Other men, are sometimes out of reach. By connection... And other times by their motivations. For example, guys that are only worried about women aren't going to hold your advice with any weight because it has no purpose to them. On the other side, people who live for the approval and love of their family are likely not going to give us a…
/r/MensRights12/06/25 05:47 AM
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It's not an addiction if you don't want to do it. You basically have to pull a bill Clinton and put the pot up to your mouth and then say you didn't inhale. People got beat up for not going with the bullshit. You say it's addiction but you're absolutely being insensitive when you say that. You can buy the stupid phone or shoes and not want to do it. It doesn't make you an addict. If you didn't have to, you wouldn't.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 04:48 AM
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Men aren't addicted to it. They're trained to be that way. If you lived in a city as a kid, everyone knows you need shoes to get around but if you bought Payless shoes? You were dragged until you bought name brand shoes. The same way kids in the past swore the lunchables kids were the one with the cool parents even though that lunch was worthless. Same with phones. You get a phone that is just as good at calling as the others. "That ain't no iPhone!" And you're stuck socially out of certain grou…
/r/MensRights12/06/25 04:41 AM
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When women get assaulted on a train and the woman, newscasters all exclaim why isn't a man helping them? When a lonely woman says the quiet part out loud that she misses having someone to kill the spiders, run outside to address the suspicious noise, or fix her car. Or all the women on TikTok who bray on about protectors and providers, while flailing around like breathless fish when the idea of going Dutch is brought up... Maybe a woman getting famous about creating outrage over a man supposedly…
/r/MensRights12/06/25 04:10 AM
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People found out that they can call their employees lazy, underpay them, fire them at will, and pit them against each other while getting them to work harder for less money. It sounds like I'm posting in the wrong sub doesn't it? But the "Bare Minimum" terminology is designed to do just that. You get paid just as much to drag your feet but I'll tell you you're doing a great job while you make just as much money as that goddamn zombie walking in place over there... It doesn't have to make sense i…
/r/MensRights12/06/25 03:49 AM
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You're speaking to the choir... Saying you hate being a man and want to change teams in a room full of men who are clearly trying probably looks like a player switching teams in a PvP lobby just because they're on a losing team. Difference is... We're not the reason we're losing... The world just hates us. The decision is ultimately yours, but at the same time, please be conscious that you telling us about your situation isn't wholly exclusive to you. Men are living it too, hating it too. And it…
/r/MensRights12/06/25 03:36 AM
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If everyone hates you it's best if you leave... That's probably what built this place. A bunch of exiled people who deserve more from the world for one reason or another. I had a good friend who went trans. The person who he always talked to was some blonde girl who hates men. I can only imagine how much hate she put into his head to make him feel like he was doing the world a favor by changing over. He, then she, just wanted love just like the rest of us. It isn't something anyone should feel t…
/r/MensRights12/06/25 03:05 AM
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Nobody said it wasn't... But the fact of the matter is, if you have the blessing of knowing how people truly feel about you from the start, you can decide what to do about it a lot sooner than you can if you were being tolerated and everyone really has their foot on your back waiting for the green light to kick you out. You already can see that with racism.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 02:49 AM
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Do whatever you want, but because men are allowed to be hated freely, most tell you to your face that they hate you. I'd much rather people just say it up front than waste my time being tolerant to me while they actually can't stand me. Some people get a kick out of the idea that people might hate them but they can't hate them publicly because they'll get in trouble. I don't get anything out of that.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 02:34 AM
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I think the best solution is to just sit and wait for more people to speak on the matter. Neither of us will be convinced of the others' opinion. You are entitled to your own opinion... As it is, you're the only one I've seen here with it.
/r/MensRights10/06/25 08:54 PM
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Women aren't going to really be seen as individuals when countries start taking replacement rates seriously... The countries that are are already getting massive amounts of flak for the pittance they're offering couples to take on a huge responsibility by having children. Trying to talk down men from trying to be more than what society perceives is worthless. Awareness is the core issue right now, as most people have men convinced that everything is peachy if they'd stop being toxic men. Meanwhi…
/r/MensRights10/06/25 08:01 PM
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You're doing a lot of I You in a case where you're trying to defend a group of women behaving a certain way because you feel men do it just as much. I you isn't who made the video. That should be enough for you to understand that the issue is bigger than us. I and you don't matter as an isolated case. Just as I don't assume you're a fuckboy, and you don't assume I'm a manipulative tearjerker. You should extend that courtesy to other people instead of isolating the cases to situations only you ar…
/r/MensRights10/06/25 07:43 PM
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Fuckboys are typically attractive or good in bed, two things I've said that typically remove the barrier for ruining an opportunity of relationship with a bad first impression. It's not really tolerated and accepted, it's a matter of self respect, which I will not say is gendered, but the women and men in both of these situations don't respect it themselves, however, in long term relationships, I shouldn't have to argue that men typically have more to lose. Fuckboy is also a term that is used to…
/r/MensRights10/06/25 07:19 PM
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A lot of things women say men do... Women also do, no? But they just say men do it... I think you're taking a black and white approach to the discussion because you feel that if there are few outliers to a law then it should be reduced to theory... But the fact of the matter is that it is widely frowned upon and rebuked if men behave this way, called exactly what it is, childish. But society and parents alike have allowed that childish behavior to remain in women because it is encouraged for wom…
/r/MensRights10/06/25 06:51 PM
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Honestly... There's a lot to unpack. I'm a little older and from a generation where men and women were proud to talk about what they liked. I'd genuinely prefer if women and men weren't chastised for jumping in conversations they hear that interest them. I'd like to have something in common with someone and not have the entire relationship be built off the idea that I want to crush them ontop of a bed with my pelvis repeatedly. When we hear both men and women talk about each other there's a larg…
/r/MensRights10/06/25 06:32 PM
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I will resign the second half of your post with... This channel has almost always done bait and switch let's talk about the problem, become a patron for the solution videos. It's why I stopped watching his content over a decade ago. But the problem he's referencing is emotional at a base, but really refers to double jeopardy for men. If men don't pick up on the fact that resigning to a woman who behaves this way is making her think she is right, and how difficult, to almost impossible it is to r…
/r/MensRights10/06/25 06:10 PM
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It seems like they both serve entirely different purposes. Guycry seems like a place for everything that makes a man cry. And menslib seems like a place to coach men into being... Men? At least that's what I get at a glance. The way titles are worded in the menslib sub really feels like they're written with the undertone that men don't actually value, valuable things...? I'd genuinely hate to contribute to another place that says I belong there but I'm the silhouette on every wanted poster in th…
/r/MensRights10/06/25 09:53 AM
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No... 1.) I feel like someone sitting at the IT table. Where almost every problem brought to my attention is born of ignorance and inexperience, to the point where I feel enabled to be upset first but apologize if I'm wrong later. Life isn't fulfilling when everyone knows they can destroy the world, bring you the broken pieces and run away full of joy knowing you not only replaced their toy, but will fix the broken one they gave you too. The rare thank you is appreciated, but sometimes it's also…
/r/MensRights10/06/25 09:28 AM
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Lol... Just makes me think of people who are given titles based on their social and sexual status, being isolated by that same thought process. I guess incels just want to be isolated, male virgins just want to be avoided by women once they find out, divorced men want to be isolated for being robbed for wanting to have a family with a woman who no longer wanted to be a family, men's rights practitioners want to be isolated because they want fair treatment. The statement just seems like such a ba…
/r/MensRights09/06/25 07:53 PM
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Every time I hear of the unpaid work crap I think of kids... When you mow the lawn, shovel snow, wash dishes, vacuum, wash clothes etc and you have a chance to get the response: You live here don't you? You don't pay anything to be here. Sitting in a house rent free and obligation free should be enough to not be bitter about chores, especially when you don't have to run off to school, study or do homework. Women and children is such an overused term to get attention... But when are children actu…
/r/MensRights09/06/25 07:13 PM
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I know the post is satire but modern feminism is sadly inflicted injury ATM. I'll try my best to make sense... In the early 2000s - 2016 the internet was in sort of a boom. Everyone brought exactly who they were online, Xbox 360 COD lobby style. And personally speaking, it was perfection. But as the years went on, women got really pissy about men dropping into their DMs like paratroopers when they had a hobby or opinion men loved. Playing video games, comics, escapism, activities, even political…
/r/MensRights08/06/25 09:46 PM
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Changing your mindset will give you a better understanding. Women swiping on dating apps is like men looking for interesting porn. She's cute but does she have big X or X? (or whatever you're into). Is the cameraman competent? Is the guy in the way? Is she in positions that accentuate whatever made you click? Is she famous? Is she going to do anything interesting? I know it seems like a stretch at first, but the bottom line is that the selection of crap like that is so vast that you can afford t…
/r/MensRights08/06/25 04:25 AM
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I think everyone would have appreciated it more if you just cross posted the full article rather than giving a lite version to a place more likely to actually talk about it... I think a lot of people are missing the point about the lack of motivations in men's lives, Especially in the incel community. When every facet of life enjoyment or distraction is either for the love of a woman or seen as cope, the current societal issues pushes them deeper down. Owning a house is hard, getting a good job …
/r/MensRights06/06/25 12:02 AM
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I need someone to guide me through this real quick... Did I seriously just read an article that was directed at children, but quickly pivoted to a teacher committing suicide over her school efficiency rating dropping? It's bad enough they pointed at a Netflix limited series targeting children's issues, and swear that the behavior any of those children have gotten from almost anyone in that show as healthy, reassuring or supportive. But making an article that is headlining the betterment of young…
/r/MensRights03/06/25 10:25 AM
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You're right, but you can usually tell the difference by how willing someone is to insult someone "beneath" them. The basic message that no one is going to help you is something every man needs to know. The times when things break and you have to look inside yourself and learn to fix or remedy problems, stockpile for future failings, or just defend yourself are things men have to grant themselves despite being able to look around at all the support groups, gofundmes, charities, scholarships, gov…
/r/MensRights02/06/25 10:48 PM
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It always makes my heart sink when men's most trusted person is their partner and not their family. I know family changes when winnings are involved, but I'd like to think they'd happen less than a relationship.
/r/MensRights02/06/25 05:36 AM
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The relationship dependency I was referring to was from men to women, not the other way... I wouldn't have directly supported your statement of destroying the family right after if both parties depended on relationships to the point they'd succeed through mutual benefit. You didn't really address anything else, so I guess that's all you cared to see. To say women have indemnity regardless of their actions toward men or through their own actions is obvious. But my point is that it effects us a lo…
/r/MensRights01/06/25 02:19 PM
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I think relationship dependency is a bigger reason for collapse than female freedom. Destroying the family unit is also a huge factor in how much money EVERYONE is spending to get away from their parents and grandparents. From shelter, to childcare. But personally. If the foundation men had for grouping together based on friends with tangible groups they were actually a part of, still existed... I don't think this would be as big a problem as it is. A lot of our efforts have been reduced to subs…
/r/MensRights01/06/25 12:32 PM
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For me... Seeing those posts sustained by so many likes is what makes me shiver... There are so many people who feel a certain way, but will never say it. And when those numbers are as high as they are... Nothing seems safe. I wouldn't care as much if it were just a few posts with the old I liked my own post with my main and alt situation. Those posts are teeming with likes though.
/r/MensRights31/05/25 08:38 PM
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Children are definitely vulnerable... Elderly in most cases too. It is absolutely used as an emotional diversion or even an attention grabber for people who need specific adjectives to care... But it also serves to show how malleable all of society is. Unfortunately, while able bodied men aren't immune to that malleability, they're basically pawns on a chess board. Deemed useless shields for more important pieces until they reach the other side and become whatever they want... But, since those m…
/r/MensRights31/05/25 08:28 PM
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It's hard not to just ask... Isn't this what you wanted? You say incels are dangerous, lonely, violent bodies of people who can't be trusted by anyone, especially women... And then get upset when they don't come to the party? Why would they come? What is there for them? Ridicule? Allegations? Unreasonable expectations? If people spent more time cooking they'd understand that meat doesn't get tougher when you beat it. It becomes tender. You've made tender men, called them dangerous, and put them …
/r/MensRights31/05/25 07:37 PM
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It's crazy to see them have a lesbian talk about abortion as if it's something she needs to worry about or go through... Both women and men should be annoyed by that. It just makes me feel like no matter what amount of money they could have spent, they'd still do the wrong thing or get the wrong person for the job.
/r/MensRights31/05/25 05:27 AM
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Update... Yeah... IDK if this is real... But apparently they dropped the money deal, and hired a woman to speak on men's issues. https://deepnewz.com/us-elections/democrats-scrap-20-million-sam-campaign-enlist-olivia-julianna-to-target-young-673b67be I think they dropped the ball still, but they saved 20 million I guess.
/r/MensRights31/05/25 12:59 AM
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Placing ads in places those people like to be is just going to make them hate you... It doesn't cost any money to care about anyone... But it's going to cost them 20 million dollars and possibly another election if they're stupid enough to go about it this way. I don't know how they didn't already learn this shit when they were pushing gaming streams and offers to get people to join the army... Idiots. What's worse is that the only people who put ads in games, make games I fucking don't like... …
/r/MensRights30/05/25 08:52 PM
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There's a really layered sense of hilarity when you really think about things that women hate doing. Do you ever sit down and think about how easy a sandwich is to make? Like going in the kitchen and doing that would take like 4 minutes. Cooking and cleaning will take longer, but if she wants to eat and not sleep in filth, it's something you'd think she'd already be able to do, right? But that's "unpaid labor". And you better believe it's something she'd pawn off to her children while paying the…
/r/MensRights30/05/25 08:41 PM
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White knighting is a factor... But I also think that men are also of the opinion that men have made choices for a reason, and that men's bad behavior gets reflected on them as well as get punished worse (or at all if being compared to the woman's action). For example, if a woman has so much concern that she's abrasive or abusive, my brain is kind of wired to think, boy she must ride like the wind / the banana cleaner must be CRAZY if he dated someone like that, or, she must care enough about him…
/r/MensRights30/05/25 08:03 PM
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Control too. Slut shaming getting turned into empowering. Body positivity, increasing relationship demands while saying the male actions of courting are the minimum. I don't even think they actually feel right... It just reminds me of toxic relationships, where if you fight back: "Why do we keep fighting?" and when you stop fighting: "Where's your backbone?" I genuinely don't know if all of this isn't some sort of shit test when even after all these new policies and dangers, men are still expect…
/r/MensRights30/05/25 01:21 AM
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It shouldn't be the case... But I think worry, responsibility, investment are big reasons why. I'm not going to even get started on the shitty circumstances I've been in where not texting someone back was put on me for her stepping out, or moving on. But the problem here is really that if you know for a fact that you have the most invested in the relationship... You're going to likely be the first to try to fix it. Men are kind of put in this damn if you do damn if you don't situation. Where you…
/r/MensRights29/05/25 09:58 AM
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That sounds good. Hopefully you can eventually work on sealing or expunging innocent people's records, or even working with data and website companies to make people who have publicly available records, show that those charges were false, cleared and otherwise dropped due to innocence. And even get some type of dealings with the AI pilots to make sure information like that with accompanying trusted sources are right below it to give everyone a proper summary if the current situation... Nobody is…
/r/MensRights27/05/25 08:34 PM
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Where did I say I was giving up? Where did I tell anyone to give up? I said we're in a bad place. People get banned in other subreddits for being here. If they care about that, people who need help aren't going to want to post, for good reason. I think it's currently our job to discuss issues TO COMPLETION so that people who cannot speak here because of their account's standing in other areas, can get a fuller understanding of the problem. Big fish aren't born big. They're born small. We have to…
/r/MensRights27/05/25 08:04 PM
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It's a Red Herring. If they get you to feel uncomfortable in your own position, you are likely to change. If you're really scared of being called an incel or a woman hater, you'll be likely to change your opinion to escape that labelling. Furthermore, it often changes the discussion to you defending your title, rather than continuing the conversation, because if either of those labels stuck, your opinions would be invalidated and no one would care about what you had to say, if they didn't alread…
/r/MensRights27/05/25 07:53 PM
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I think a bigger issue is that the group is currently in a position where people coming here have to seal their fate in other areas just to be here. Other subs banning people for having posts here is pathetic, and despite Reddit mods (automated or not) getting their panties twisted about what kind of people are excepted in certain groups. People who are already pushed aside or insulted are not likely to want to be in a position where them reaching out for help is something that can get them bann…
/r/MensRights27/05/25 07:44 PM
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I think the linking of certain people to the cause can devalue the cause. But it doesn't make the cause less valid. People often bring up Tate to devalue the cause, but if you can look beyond what he has done wrong, you can see that sharing assets between him and his brother has done incredibly well for them both. If they could teach you anything, it's that family is important, and sharing your wealth with family with similar uses for it and ambitions is just as important. It's also ironic how m…
/r/MensRights27/05/25 07:23 PM
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I think it's more popular than its ever been. The worst part about it all has nothing to do with the movement, but the reactions to it. When people make content daily literally reacting to video evidence of women having absolutely no regard for men... You'd think the reaction wouldn't be on the lines of "deal with it or you're an incel"... But that's basically what it is. Do what women want you to do or they'll make you look much worse than you actually are. People don't want to touch it because…
/r/MensRights27/05/25 12:22 PM
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I had the same happen a few weeks ago... They've yet to respond to my appeal. Such a stupid system... I can't even find the message anymore. But it was about some violence on marginalized groups or something dumb. I tried to illustrate cultural problems and said that it was basically do or die if you didn't fit with the stupid culture. Made me sick... Because I know they've banned people for stupid things like "linked accounts" with absofuckinglutely no explanation or clarification about what th…
/r/MensRights27/05/25 02:26 AM
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I think expectations play a big part in all of this. Men are basically taught to find the fruit and convince it to drop. And women are kind of taught to put themselves around valuable men they like like the secret service. Men's romanticism was kind of stemming from creating the opportunity to reciprocate. The gestures, fights, advances, gifts, poetry, etc that men used to trail around for women to understand were made in hopes that they'd give them a shot. And in those types of times, rejection…
/r/MensRights24/05/25 03:04 AM
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It popped up while I was looking at facepalm or in the adolescence netflix subreddit I think. Either way. Having women sniff your posts or downvote you to hell for disagreeing with their opinion they're trying to push as fact is refreshing enough. Or replying to your post with "please don't kill me" when you make a point against them.
/r/MensRights22/05/25 11:54 PM
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I agree with 1, 4, 8 and 9... I'm indifferent to 2. The rest I'm not on board with. 3- needs to be mutual. Men have to extend themselves to meet women. If a woman simply wants attention, you're basically only raising the bar for men to do things for women, that might not even work. It's akin to fathers and boyfriends / husbands spending a ton of money on their daughter or girlfriend / wife to not want elsewhere. While it makes sense, not every man can realistically afford to spend that much mone…
/r/MensRights22/05/25 08:32 PM
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I can't answer this for everyone... So if you don't get a lot of answers, I encourage you to try again later, or elsewhere too. I think understanding is a big part of love. Some people love what men do, how they do it, how long they've done it, but not really why. In my opinion, a lot of relationships fail to start, or to continue, because of the why. Someone being defensive, insecure, insatiable, clingy, defeatist, irritatable or easy is typically for reasons that aren't explored much less care…
/r/MensRights22/05/25 08:10 PM
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I don't think a lot of women fully understand that men are listening and watching, and how much regard those men are raised to have for women. It's like the phrase "don't meet your heroes." The scattered, kill all men, yes all men, male tears, I hate men and etc posts are easier to find than porn. Especially for children. And we really don't for a second care about what that kind of discovery does to people. Thanks for speaking up to it. I wish people cared more about the lasting effects of blan…
/r/MensRights22/05/25 07:21 PM
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I don't think it's unnatural to like someone who is willing to stand for what you believe in... That's like saying a girl who is actually in agreement to men's rights isn't more attractive in one degree or another. It's up to them what they want to do with it. But I don't think it should be deemed off limits like some sort of friend zone.
/r/MensRights22/05/25 07:12 PM
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Think of racism... Is a bunch of people the same race as you going to make the idea that people of other races hate you, feel any better? No. The side who hates you being given, (or forced) the opportunity to see that you're not anything less than them is typically what is desired. You can't make a racist, not racist... But you can show people who aren't that you're good people by doing as much. The people have to care about the help you're offering... Which is what I keep explaining. You need t…
/r/MensRights22/05/25 07:04 PM
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I'm just going to mention the loneliness epidemic for the sake of some parallel understanding. If men don't care about men, getting hurt just looks like it's for sport. The loser of the group has real issues, real problems, but the loser title takes the throne, and excuses the ill behavior they're sent. If men are just seen as losers, which some are... The help, support, love, care, and the softness you're proposing is just preparing meat to be devoured. Think of the phrase: "A face only a mothe…
/r/MensRights22/05/25 05:41 PM
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Behaving provocatively and then calling men perverts... And the men who don't fall for it anymore prudes, or gay. It's like a tug of war for power. Do what I want you to do and be bad thing, or don't do what I want you to do and be bad thing... Bonus points if you recall the sex workers insulting men for watching porn... That are also selling content that is apparently not porn? It'll never make sense. But it typically means everything that woman does is going to be rooted in selfishness.
/r/MensRights22/05/25 05:28 PM
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As long as men are deemed the tool of society... Men's spaces serve as a safe zone for them that is still often encroached by angry women. They're armed with information and testimonials from other men that the opposing side does not care about, and even leave the door open for women to enter and show that some also don't care at all. Why? Because men need to build an immunity to the things women do to them instead of healing for the sake of it happening again. Healing is typically something you…
/r/MensRights22/05/25 05:19 PM
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Stay strong, not for us, not for your manhood, but for yourself, and your child. Thank you for making an accepting place of support for them, and yourself. It's what we all need to do some day.
/r/MensRights21/05/25 12:10 PM
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It really doesn't matter. As it is, most men treat women in a "come as you are" fashion. So a woman pursuing a career getting grants scholarships and student loans doesn't count against her. Men typically aren't after her money either. So they don't care. Maybe you think that men are worried about "OMG but successful women are hypergamous too" etc. But can you really count the chickens that don't come home? I'm sure men would be absolutely understanding of women wanting more educated men if they…
/r/MensRights21/05/25 12:07 PM
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You need to understand that the incel opinion I'm expressing is percieved imagery spoken anecdotally for the sake of communicating how the world generally feels about them. So it feels like you're telling me something you think I need to hear, that I already know. If you want a crimped argument on male loneliness, it can be easily related to how boys are forced to conduct themselves in school: No games, no toys, no fighting, horsing around, etc. They're forced to behave like girls. They can't pl…
/r/MensRights21/05/25 04:01 AM
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If men were standing together... A male loneliness epidemic wouldn't basically be the topic of the day. We can all say whatever we want. What we do makes the difference. If men can't even gather together to be friends and embrace male behavior enough to not feel alone how are they going to stand up for rights? I'd imagine men's rights feels like fight club to a lot of solo men. You might be a part of fight club, you might love it, but outside of it, you don't talk about it. Think of the topic as…
/r/MensRights21/05/25 03:48 AM
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If men can't play rough. If they're encouraged to watch others and report and reply instead of do it themselves, if they're encouraged to herd behind more popular people and not have their own voice heard, being constantly compared to other more fortunate people who have more friends and more active families than them, more money, and even authority than them. Male loneliness seems more like an issue because a bunch of men huddling in circles gossiping isn't what guys typically do for fun. Watch…
/r/MensRights21/05/25 03:27 AM
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You didn't read to the end... Good job.
/r/MensRights21/05/25 03:11 AM
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They can... They just don't have to. So they don't, and get no criticism when they don't because it doesn't directly harm their image. Women are ultimately playing the image game. Fat, promiscuous, unfaithful, shallow, deceiving, opportunistic, ugly, and etc women are protected and encouraged to be the norm while men are tarnished and berated constantly for being violent, shallow, oppressive, stingy, manipulative rapist incels who baselessly hate women. As a buisness strategy, if half the popula…
/r/MensRights20/05/25 04:19 PM
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Some men think it bolsters their percieved manhood. On the lines of, I denounce men like that because I'll never be a man like that... To make themselves look strong and impervious to any men that could potentially violate them (like in prison) Realistically... I'm not sure every man talking down on being violated could defend himself against a crew of Bubbas. So I guess the idea could pivot more to just not talking about the fact that it happened for the sake of maintaining an image. Ultimately…
/r/MensRights20/05/25 03:08 PM
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Usually when I say something (mainly to a woman) I painfully take into account how shallow of a perception of me she could have. If I'm literally just a face and body, having everything she considers worthy of note about me be insulted while I came up to offer a compliment is definitely something I'd rather not do at all. If there was already previous healthy interaction, (ie not just being beckoned for favors or help) I'd be more comfortable doing so because who I am is a little more apparent t…
/r/MensRights20/05/25 02:48 PM
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I'm sure you think you cooked... Look, male loneliness is more related to how we're encouraged to interact with each other. You saw the other thread about male physical contact? (Granted it was made by someone in his 60s) but that was a big deal with kids making friends. Game boys in the back of the class, horsing around, playing Pokémon, Yu-Gi-Oh!, Beyblades, Tech Decks, Etc. We were MAKING our own fun in older days. Now that stuff is basically banned in school. Kids all have their phones out, …
/r/MensRights20/05/25 02:21 PM
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Pointing out Mansplaining, manspreading, and tone policing were already enough... Being completely disregarded for how you speak normally is already a sure sign you're wasting your time. Women's basic retort to men's points and expressions are typically whataboutisms that are designed to devalue your entire statements because some bogeyman exists, or, the system was created by your people so, it's your fault. It feels like these are just invitations for an argument. Which will likely use the abo…
/r/MensRights20/05/25 01:58 PM
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As long as incels remain the most neglected group of men that are strongly considered harmful to society, male lonliness will look completely excusable. Why? Because those untouched men will be deemed incels, furthering the idea that they need to be avoided at all costs and supplanting that those men are just bad, removing any care or guilt from the issue entirely. As you related to work... A long gap in employment is often questioned when applying for a new job. Why were you not seeking employm…
/r/MensRights20/05/25 01:49 PM
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I just see it as a tri-force. The real problem is Gannon, and instead of joining forces to fight Gannon... Link and Zelda fight each other. Problems exist because we let them. Even if it were enforced by law and regulated, hateful people will pass it down like racism, and those people will hold onto it until they feel it's safe to unleash. Right now women have control over most men who want them, so they're dictating how those men should act. If men like them were given a platform, they'd likely…
/r/MensRights19/05/25 02:47 PM
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You ignore women's role in all of this. Why do you want everyone to change for the good of the child except for the woman? Who hurt you?
/r/MensRights19/05/25 01:37 PM
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You might think it's an acceptable position to be in when people clearly don't like you, but like your money. You are expecting all men to weather an obstacle that could be the most difficult woman ever. Nobody deserves to be in a position where women constantly hold the child over your head and expect men to just take belittlement and earn money endlessly under the guise that it's only for the kids. It isn't. If it was, both parties would work it out. But why would women want to work it out if …
/r/MensRights19/05/25 11:34 AM
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Some people can't comprehend what you're saying. It happens everywhere. Typically it seems like people get upset and feel you're stealing the point by being right. They want to be right, and it's a lot easier to bury your opinion than question it. It's definitely a victim behavior. Feminists do it, racists do it, sexists, etc.
/r/MensRights19/05/25 10:54 AM
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This seems so specific... And purposefully gendered for the sake of a response. I know more women in this situation and zero men. But typically the answer is money. Also, if the direction of "since many men are vocal about how they don't get rights to their kids" is taken... Then the mother is the one resorting to having the children raised in welfare... Since the men don't have rights to the kids. Maybe those men just don't care about the woman enough to work harder. I'd imagine if they had cus…
/r/MensRights19/05/25 02:42 AM
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Let someone else explain it to you. https://www.reddit.com/r/GenX/comments/18x198s/anybody_play_open_chest_in_high_school/
/r/MensRights19/05/25 01:08 AM
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It's a little more complicated... Abortion is championed because sex is normal. So abortion is literally just the next step to irresponsible sex. Incels are not considered normal. So instead of offering care or concern for them, they're just told not to be incels. You aren't allowed to live with yourself if nobody is willing to accept the position you're in. How pure is being a virgin man if it repels women? It isn't. Just like incels they need to rid themselves of the title to be considered nor…
/r/MensRights19/05/25 12:59 AM
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Because you're 60 maybe? Look man I'm not about to make your pacemaker work hard. I horse around at work with some people. But it depends on the person. I used to rough around with a few old timers after they realized I was just an idiot with a big mouth and didn't mean any disrespect. They were good people, still young at heart even though one of their backs was bent like a spoon... And the only time my grandmother would do stuff like that was when she swore licking her thumb and wiping my head…
/r/MensRights18/05/25 11:39 PM
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That example was the only one pertaining to sports dude. You think dudes would play open chest when we have shoulder pads on, purple nurples? Noogies with helmets on? Dude... Please have the capacity to parse one instance from the others.
/r/MensRights18/05/25 11:17 PM
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Does that take away from literally everything else I said?
/r/MensRights18/05/25 11:06 PM
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I played sports in school... Butt pats in football was incredibly normal. But I'm from America.
/r/MensRights18/05/25 11:01 PM
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It's not really that much of a lack of physical intimacy as it is about anti violence and physical intimacy from men to women being seen as advances but not the reverse. For example on men to men interaction, punching people in school screaming OPEN CHEST and running away, neck slaps, tickling, purple nurples, noogies, headlocks, wedgies, the nonstop secret handshakes we used to do, slapping butts to signify a good job. That has wholly existed in the past. But because horsing around isn't really…
/r/MensRights18/05/25 10:44 PM
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Well the percent of SA is by victims. So it's not relative to the population, which won't look good either way because the claim of SA is more broad, there will be more of it even if male behavior is exactly the same. It's likely just to get people to be more scared of each other. Another graph for women to quote to justify their hatred. They want you to change your behavior but it doesn't really matter if you do or you don't, you're just as bad (or worse) because you're a man.
/r/MensRights18/05/25 01:06 PM
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It's not about what men have to do... Men are progressively being dehumanized, they don't have to do anything to get to this end. If a man does well, he's doing the bare minimum. You care, protect, serve? What, you want a cookie? That's what you're supposed to do. You're essentially giving up the privilege of being seen as more than a service animal. You help me see, nobody can touch you, pet you, call you, give you praise or love you but women because you're in service to them. The self sacrifi…
/r/MensRights18/05/25 12:04 PM
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If men were the only people encouraged to go outside, the crime rate, accident rate, murder rate, assault rate, etc of men will go up. Not necessarily because men are more violent, but because men would be the highest demographic of people put in positions to continue doing these things. Now, reality. Men are tasked with approaching, courting, knowing the signs, tells, knowing what phrases mean, or how far she really wants things to go despite what she says. And women are fully encouraged and su…
/r/MensRights18/05/25 11:52 AM
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I am not sure what this means... Personally you do find yourself changing (I'd prefer to call this developing / maturing) to be easier to understood by people you want to appeal to. But it's not really becoming a woman, but being a more grounded person for the sake of not blaming yourself for immature interactions. If women cared to make that same development, balance would be restored... But that isn't what this is.
/r/MensRights18/05/25 03:48 AM
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Men kind of need to value the approval of other men for that to matter. Because we seek validation from mostly women, unless we have it, men are always in a everlasting battle to get it, even at the detriment of their male peers... Ignoring that. If there was anything worthwhile we could do, it's not leaving men to fall under injustice spread by women that they DO feel greater impact from. If fire only burns those it was made to, blocking it would do others no harm but us stopping it will help t…
/r/MensRights18/05/25 03:34 AM
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I think the issue with biological and social urges to have more provisions are lost on women because unlike actual nature, taking on bigger tasks and bigger challenges doesn't net a larger reward anymore. Felling a giant animal will give you more meat, fur, bone, hide, leather. Chopping a giant tree will give you more wood, bark, twine, rope, burlap, sap etc. But working harder at work, gives you exactly the same wage. Women want men to work harder, but working harder literally does nothing of v…
/r/MensRights18/05/25 01:46 AM
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How dare you not seek every emotional and sexual gratification from me and only me! Multiple cases too... One 30 year old, a middle aged one, and apparently another. If men want more they're pigs, if women want more they're empowered... Watching porn, calling her a different name during sex, and being an alleged womanizer... Grounds for mutilation it seems. Penis envy is literally real.
/r/MensRights18/05/25 01:07 AM
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I think people might genuinely think it's a spectacle to watch inexperienced people run around awkwardly squirming for some experienced understanding of intimacy... As a man who was passed over for at least 3 years for being a virgin. It felt like I was "it" and I needed to tag someone to not be immediately. It almost felt like sport, the people giggling about it and whispering it to their other peers as shame. If those "participants" feel that way about it... I doubt there's anything they'll te…
/r/MensRights17/05/25 10:53 PM
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I feel like... It's more about opportunity than it is for fulfillment. If nothing were to change. Men chasing money, status, objects, women... Are essentially just buckling down in order to live their life in a world that has already become completely unrealistic. Traditionalists are basically using the honor system of giving women exactly what they want in hope that that'll actually do something for men... But those women making demands like that want the former people to be with, and the bare …
/r/MensRights17/05/25 10:29 PM
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Narcissistic pervert is equal to Passive Aggressive in the 2010s. It's just man shaping control. The purpose is to make you feel bad for trying and abandon what works to do something different. It makes the next person seem like they're tasked with showing that woman a better time while her past relationship serves as a method of control for the next. If that man cares for himself? Narcissist. If he wants some sex? Pervert. Unfortunately both of those things are typically progression points in a…
/r/MensRights17/05/25 12:26 PM
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I think the scope is larger... When women as a whole are trying to destigmatize every negativity we have of women including promiscuity, weight, lack of womanly duties, sexless marriages, single motherhood accountability, etc. They clearly are trying to get men to love them the same way we love animals and children. Returning to men after a hoe phase, cheating, "I was young", disrespecting them, falsely accusing them, insulting what men care about, having children with others and basically pissi…
/r/MensRights17/05/25 12:44 AM
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If you were trying you wouldn't bend your head back to insult the group for a few choice posts, and instead take it all as a total value. Women are assaulted because they're presented as the prize, men are expected to approach them, interact with them, court them, spoil them, and other things that basically amount to either investing into them specifically or bearing the responsibility of the outcome of whatever that interaction is. When men are highly saught after, they are also assaulted and h…
/r/MensRights17/05/25 12:15 AM
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She's building the world she wants, one child at a time. It's not just sexist or rude to her children, it's a seeing eye into what she desires from the world. She wants men to be sorry and guilty of things he's never done, privileges he's never exchanged, and expectations he's yet to have. And she wants women to be trailblazers for what she thinks will pave the way for the future of society... Not realizing that in a lot of circumstances the women who hate men but are attracted to them still... …
/r/MensRights16/05/25 11:39 PM
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Please find reality... If that was what would happen, men and women on opposing sides would interact exponentially more, and see that we're all basically fighting because the leadership on either side is doing things we don't agree with. Men attribute their global injustices to rabid feminism and rules that prey on them as a catch all supposedly meant for criminals, and women attribute their global injustices to a system created years ago to establish family hierarchy, pointing at specific examp…
/r/MensRights16/05/25 11:30 PM
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So if a man were to go into some feminism place, and say the male equivalent of what you said... What type of response would you expect?
/r/MensRights16/05/25 11:14 PM
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Because they're shooting their shot at the men, or boy, they actually want. They're willing to crash out, or go out sad, for those people. It's the same way people normally would act in the past. There used to be a few girls we would march through enemy lines to talk to. Back when the only risk was a little shame from rejection. All of the things you mention contribute to it, but also... Location, location, location. There's probably so many times where if a girl was alone, you'd likely shoot th…
/r/MensRights16/05/25 06:42 PM
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Modern societies have most feminism in my opinion. South Korea has the 4B movement, Japan has some people rather physically assaulting women to get less time than a potential sexual assault, women who notice and care / want attention are asking why nobody dates, other cultures who have issues with immigration make insensitive comments about how they're only worried about men and immigrant men hurting them, not women or immigrant women. If all it takes to call a free Calvary is to cry wolf... The…
/r/MensRights14/05/25 08:36 PM
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A complaint is often shared with the idea that it can become a burden to more people than just them. Women complain, and dismiss men's complaints because we're expected to take their problems and ours, and either find solutions, or in the case of women who don't want solutions, enable those complaints to happen, but in more favorable conditions. Examples include: dating the same guys they say they hate, dealing with friends they say they can't stand, being in financial situations that are insolv…
/r/MensRights14/05/25 08:26 PM
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Now... THIS makes more sense. I can't really speak on it from my own end. I've known gay people, had gay friends etc. But that doesn't really give me any experience on it. Even if it did, there are times where gay men have said certain things are easier and we had to remind ourselves that that person is gay because it's different for them. I haven't really been in an experience where people who were kind of metro or androgenous in presentation were made fun of. But there are haters out there, an…
/r/MensRights14/05/25 02:10 PM
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Fear? Maybe from your dad. But your friends? Peer pressure isn't done out of fear. Doing what other men tell me as a standard to their expectations hasn't ever cost me my job. I've never been afraid of another man telling me what I should be doing except for my father. I don't know what grounds these are on. Men obey what they are expected to be because of women. I don't get where this is coming from. Bullies haven't even come up with some do or die ultimatum for me in my entire life. Men influe…
/r/MensRights13/05/25 10:16 PM
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It's the fleeting social value of doing things that aren't currently or continuously commercially viable. Free to play games, new games, new clothes, media, political views and etc are championed, conversations are made trivial by merit systems that platform the most impactful replies, and organizing sociability in a way where unless you have a mic to drop, you might as well not speak at all. Consumerism has robbed most people of the means of a stereotypical social life because if they're not pu…
/r/MensRights13/05/25 04:18 PM
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Childishness. One of the first thing we have to teach children is not to be selfish. The idea that men's spaces have become shared spaces, men's hobbies aren't respected unless women are included or that hobby is dropped for that woman, or the man is responsible for women's percieved discomfort due to enjoying himself without them is the same irrationality that children and some domestic animals have. The female equivalent isn't considered or factored because it is "us". "We get what we want, we…
/r/MensRights13/05/25 01:35 PM
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They do. But ultimately is another mans approval what changes the world? If what my father pushed to me was gospel, school shootings would have been a lot less likely because some man would have befriended those people, they wouldn't be alone, they wouldn't be left to fend for themselves either. There isn't as much, or ultimately any value in that later on. If women were willing to accept men then there wouldn't even be that much of a need to appeal to men because they'd have female friends, the…
/r/MensRights13/05/25 01:09 PM
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The problem in this case lies with women. In an easy explanation. Think of drugs. Some states legalized weed. But if the job you work at or apply for does not recognize that legality, you are obligated to abide by the rules they set. Inevitably, no matter what rules we deem are appropriate, the women of the households, teachers in the schools, babysitters, classmates, etc are all going to have their own personal opinion of what men should do and while under those circumstances, those are the rul…
/r/MensRights13/05/25 06:30 AM
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I don't allow anything because as you've seen, you're one of the few with enough balls to speak to me at all... I'm not disregarding men, I'm AVOIDING the boogeymen. Do you know how much whataboutism happens in typical conversations with men and women? I'm absofuckinglutely weary of having to start a conversation on the back-foot because of that shit. "What about the rapists, abusers, pedos, etc" It's like they think that's what they're talking to. Common man avoids that shit. Because if they ki…
/r/MensRights13/05/25 05:12 AM
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Yes, but the post you first replied to from me is referencing the fact that they believe that there are so many feminists not of the cloth we deem unbarable. So if that exile garners no force whatsoever, then the claim that there are feminists who disagree, is either a lie, or a useless fluff of numbers because what good are rebels without tongues or limbs? If they can't speak their mind, move to causes they support, or defend a world they'd want to live in, then they're simply extras in a scene…
/r/MensRights13/05/25 05:04 AM
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I don't understand what you're trying to say. Are you saying NO man is the source of their aggression? If so... I disagree. The Boogeymen Argument exists because the boogeymen metaphorically exist. Boogeymen are what have given them fuel to hate men en masse, and my reference to the common man isn't to ignore that issue, but to say that regular everyday people they interact with have NOTHING to do with what the boogeymen have done. In a mirror, we would be protecting our children, selves, and ot…
/r/MensRights13/05/25 04:50 AM
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But if that is a known issue, why is it not in their interests to start a rebellion, gathering the good people, who seemingly remain silent, and abandoning the rest? Instead, they are here, defending feminism while not claiming to be a complete feminist. Why would you virtuously defend something you felt forced to abandon? And why would you suggest recourse from a group that basically exists as a counterbalance to what you're defending? Obviously those questions aren't for you. But the issue ste…
/r/MensRights13/05/25 04:39 AM
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I'm going to overstep here... But this isn't anything against you, just to put a magnifying glass on the problem. If they have an issue with what both sides are doing, and how both sides are being treated by the other, why are they here, and not there? In one of the replies OP made, it defended feminism to say that not all of them were bad, and that the few bad shouldn't represent the good. But the issue here, is that if the "good" feminists would take responsibility for their group (if there we…
/r/MensRights13/05/25 03:46 AM
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I feel like your efforts would be better spent telling feminists that common men aren't the source of their percieved oppression... Telling men that there are a few valid women out there who are worth listening to is just common sense. Almost every time a woman has come in here without being on the immediate offense, they were heard out, and given a floor to speak. Just like now. Lowerinng men's guard further is going to be more of a detriment when there are just as much enemies on the other sid…
/r/MensRights13/05/25 02:13 AM
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Well you saw the karma of the post... Even telling the truth upset men who need to understand it. It's sort of symbiotic really. If there are no lesser people, the next in line will be. And it's something people, even those men, cannot comprehend. But unfortunately defending these men will get you placed with them, which is why they often aren't. How can two people in the hole get out if it's bigger than the both of them? With help. But we really don't know how deep that hole is, and jumping in …
/r/MensRights10/05/25 03:48 PM
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Pretty much. Men have been reduced to people who need to constantly be vouched for instead of being granted a chance to prove themselves. Big issue is that, things like that depend on people to report on both good and bad. But when good is considered expected service or "bare minimum", the only people who feel the need to leave feedback, feel poorly about their experience with men. The cherry on top, is that the good feedback shared belongs to that man, and bad feedback belongs to us all. It alw…
/r/MensRights10/05/25 01:44 PM
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I guess a question should be reputational even if you're dismissing civil situations. But if you were looking to be undefeated in a sport, would it matter how you lose if you're still considered to have lost? That's a HUGE thing. I genuinely don't even like having any shame on my back, but to say you'd naively conduct your life without considering the possibility someone could condemn you for that... I would rather not. I know someone who said their own family sold some of their stuff even when …
/r/MensRights09/05/25 10:09 PM
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Patriarchy Foundation building and maintenance. Those same values could be could be championed by women... But they're not. Women's achievement seems to trump family establishment and they blatantly want the former, and later both (often at the sole expense of the man). It's like seeing someone who was missing for 30 years come home unannounced and expect to have a warm plate already set at the table for them when they finally return home. Rape Culture No. Violating women isn't on the mission st…
/r/MensRights09/05/25 08:22 PM
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Because in a lot of cases men's problems belong to each man and not just men. Unfortunately the term man is linked to multiple things, whether it be achievement, social acceptance, or even an avenue for control. And some men are more interested in furthering the movement for the common man, and not all men. Incels blackpill redpill Bluepill mgtow etc be damned. And the male force isn't as solid or celebrated to be able to retain a positive reputation while publicly accepting these groups without…
/r/MensRights09/05/25 07:35 PM
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Most of the people I meet apathetic to men's issues are basically set that way until they find a male they care to protect. It could be an adult, child, family, or friend. Falling into the "you're one of the good ones" category is basically you just wearing her crest in her mind. If you act out of line that crest will likely be removed and you'll be promoted to "all men". I think the hard part most people, not just women, don't get is that, we're typically not having healthy interactions anymore…
/r/MensRights09/05/25 04:17 AM
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I don't think most women really get the dynamic of being held away from something you want. Being a good dad shouldn't be a "Test your might" level of a hurdle just to get access to the child. It shouldn't be inhibited by the baby mother, and she shouldn't put herself in the way as a difficult obstacle for him to triumph. I also don't think they understand the toxic dynamic some people instill in their child against the other parent. If you're trying to be a good parent and your child will have …
/r/MensRights09/05/25 04:04 AM
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I think it's more "if they could they would", than anything. There is less stigma around men having sex with other men, less investment, and probably less shame for breaking up. That's likely why it happens more, because it can. If most men weren't expected to prove their worth (maybe clear a few shit tests) before having the opportunity to be promiscuous, there would probably be more of it too. If all dates were 50 50, maybe some free ones, no loss in divorce, fair custody agreements, the bar f…
/r/MensRights08/05/25 01:41 AM
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Yes. Men are seen as useful, then after that use is satisfied, they're put away. The bare minimum part of it suggests that it's a thankless job, and the thing that got men called gentlemen, is now just what they're all supposed to do for people who often don't appreciate them. At the end of the day. If people cared enough to stop it, they'd promote a healthier message. Either side hasn't really been successful in doing so or Jordan Peterson would have no time to speak on anything but that. We al…
/r/MensRights06/05/25 07:35 PM
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So do you think nothing of incels, Blackpill, Bluepill and others who seek validity in women and are otherwise treated worse than men who are immediately condemned to be predators? I'm going to keep saying it, you're wasting time. There's a lot more people on the line than you and your opinions. And those people happen to want women, and do not deserve to be called fucking subhuman.
/r/MensRights06/05/25 01:09 PM
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He doesn't really take a negative stance or talk down to anyone. I'd describe him as simply painting a perspective. I didn't cite them for the red pill movement, he's more MGTOW than anything.
/r/MensRights06/05/25 12:53 PM
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Do you realize the point in having conversation is to have a welcoming environment for opposing parties to contribute? If you don't care about what women think or feel and just want whatever you want, avoiding women and getting it will be fine in most cases aside from employment and war. If you want custody you have to deal with women, if you want respect you have to deal with women, if you want a relationship you have to deal with women, right now you're just wasting everyone's time. Nobody's p…
/r/MensRights06/05/25 11:58 AM
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Oh it wasn't books, back then those creators had new videos and leaving those videos on and knowing I'm not alone. Thinking ape still makes videos semi regular at least.
/r/MensRights06/05/25 11:51 AM
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Yeah I should have said hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Pearl harbor bombing wasn't Nuclear so I genuinely wouldn't relate them as the same severity. Do you realize what affirmative action was trying to counteract? That's like saying giving women rights after they had none is sexism in a socially popular direction. You can play tit for tat, but I'm not here to equate injustices, I'm here to state that other grievances have been taught and encouraged to not seek retribution on descendents of people. …
/r/MensRights06/05/25 06:26 AM
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Pain... I read it. A little bit of me was hoping it could boggle down to something like communicating selfishness in children by highlighting that asking them to share isn't taking it away, but giving it to the both of them. But, my head is in the clouds. It's really hard to try to have a strategic way to talk to women about stuff like this. And ultimately the issue does return to sharing, but the pivoting factor is now that the women have it, they don't want to share it with men even if we were…
/r/MensRights06/05/25 06:15 AM
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Oh look, I agree with you. I know those are valuable things, but I also have seen women not want to do those things because of the aforementioned lack of monetary value, and even simply because patriarchy bad. Or are you saying because that isn’t actually value they control and own for their labor, and all that value can be taken from them in a divorce, that they aren’t convinced? Yes. It's like a man's investment in a woman. What good is that investment if it is completely lost when the relatio…
/r/MensRights06/05/25 05:47 AM
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I think the difference in appreciation and monetary value attributed to each role was what made women feel oppressed if we're talking non abusive and healthy households. Let me explain. Cooking, cleaning, child rearing, and handling some spending decisions were what women were doing. But those... Duties, have little to no value if they don't value the family or household they're doing it for. There is also a rightful fear of losing your investment in that household if you ever were abandoned in …
/r/MensRights06/05/25 03:59 AM
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Promoting fear of a group of people to vie for power without suspicion definitely is valid... Pointing at immigration, or recently, blaming economic instability on international commerce is something real that seems similar at the least. I guess I am guilty of assuming there would at least be some sincerity to the misplaced hatred of all men due to the actions of few. Trying to make sense of nonsense I guess. At the end of the day I kind of have to sit on my hands and hope women who aren't incen…
/r/MensRights06/05/25 03:46 AM
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I've been really into tech... Though because of tariffs, people buying everything immediately because of economic fear, and etc... I haven't kept up with it. Video games are an easy vice, TV too if you like it. Sitting online is okay I guess, but it's nothing like it was decades ago where making a point could earn you a friend... Huge issue with trying to beat feelings like that is just not exploring things that make you feel like it would be better with another person. Like going to a diner alo…
/r/MensRights06/05/25 02:00 AM
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Just hungry hippos... I skipped half the story because I notice her replies to Scott were like texting a girl who isn't into you. They're short, not thought provoking at all, and are kind of just the yes no questions when people genuinely need an actual perspective. Looking at her replies is kind of boredom. If Scott has explained that men are failing, and women are doing better, and none of her responses even hint at relationships hoping to be more than that, yet easily saying children from her…
/r/MensRights06/05/25 01:39 AM
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Seems like children need to be Members of the Scottish Parlament (MSP) to get justice. It's not much of a joke, but if that needs to be the amount of respect people deserving of justice need to have before others understand they're abused by the lack of representation in defense of their bodies, then it simply needs to be done. You'd think being a child would be enough... Guess not. It's a good move that needs to happen more often.
/r/MensRights05/05/25 10:34 PM
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I found MGTOW before I really knew anything about pills, but they explained those ideals there too. I was with a girl who wasn't able to see past my personal achievements. As long as I was better than her, she was okay with me. She had a plan for herself she assumed I would tag along with. Going to college clear across the country and she would push it down my throat. "Look how many scholarships there are, I'm sure you can get some too" I'm not the type of person who wants to be in debt... Debt …
/r/MensRights05/05/25 06:36 PM
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Speaking for yourself and not needing to consistently cite others is typically a good way to avoid that. It usually gets murky when who you're talking to demands proof from other people they clearly respect more than your own experience. And while it is fair for them to do so... I definitely do not see the opposing side feel the need to police themselves for the sake of maintaining their validity towards being conversed with. Pointing directly at the 40 year old situation... I'd say people want …
/r/MensRights05/05/25 01:00 PM
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I can't argue that. But if you're trying to communicate with someone the first thing you have to do is address what they're saying... Ironically, knowing where the quote is from and if the show is faithful to the book, some of the men are doing oppressive things, but the women in that show are doing a lot of the evil to themselves... Sustaining an argument like that is probably going to start some trouble, but maybe the show is nothing like the book. I've not finished the show because well... A …
/r/MensRights04/05/25 09:23 PM
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Trusting the system leaves them in a bad situation. Like women often quote: Men are afraid of who will hurt their feelings, women are afraid of who will kill them. When held in comparison like this, men's feelings mean nothing because as far as they (women) are concerned, if making you feel like a guilty lonely incel outcast (even committing VTO) serves as you statistically not being a factor to violence against women? Collateral damage. As stated above, when men hurt, women often don't help. Ev…
/r/MensRights04/05/25 06:02 PM
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I think the resentment comes from basically being required to meet standards that usually suggest you're getting a quality product, service, career, education, relationship... But you're getting, as the women say nowadays, the bare minimum. If you're expected to have 5-10 years experience you're not going to be happy finding out their "competitive salary" is 12.50 to 15 an hour and to get your hands dirty all day. If I were to speak to culling your resentment it would just be realizing how much …
/r/MensRights04/05/25 10:14 AM
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It's not just you. Long story short, because there's no real negative reaction to women acting protective or prejudiced toward certain people, they're more likely to do it. From an experience like yours I'd imagine that's why there aren't as many male teachers. Fostering a healthy group of kids is great for everyone, but if it means you've gotta take the hit of being professor creepo then it's absolutely not worth it. I'd probably play a little dirtier than you. Get your niece to scream that's m…
/r/MensRights03/05/25 06:47 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/35ifq3/the_matriarchy_exists_in_canada_if_the_male/ It seems to have been an issue for at least a decade... I was looking to see maybe there'd be other groups complaining about the assumption that they were always the caregiver... But I found this sooner than any of that... Apparently the system does offer backpay (I glanced over that, could be wrong) but it is still an injustice that has clearly been mostly (probably completely) ignored for the decad…
/r/MensRights03/05/25 03:30 PM
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Yeah it's the biggest sign to just get away from those people. They don't care about you.
/r/MensRights03/05/25 08:54 AM
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It's regrettably why a lot of male spaces encourage you to fight for yourself. Making one woman who has seen you see more of the problem is worlds away from standing outside of the castle making offerings of peace or showing evidence of tyranny. If they're not looking for you, they won't even look at you to do more than attack and defame you. They've basically got double points enabled until their mid 30s (generally) so they're encouraged to get online and play every match they can. I don't know…
/r/MensRights02/05/25 08:32 PM
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It seems they just want you to get behind and push, all while they remind you they didn't need or ask for your help. When feminism was new(er, maybe about 2012-2014 for context), I remember hearing the question be asked. Why does it take your mother, sister, daughter, niece, cousin, friend, etc for you to care? Yet we see in testimonies where women admit that's exactly what it took for them to realize the damage the movement is doing. But it isn't anything you can bring to their door. It's like …
/r/MensRights02/05/25 08:07 PM
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Restraining female narcissism would make life easier to live. Because there would be less people demanding to be spoiled rotten for the sake of bragging about how much surplus they've be granted to live. Expensive clothes bags and cars to brag about while denouncing the basic traditional expectations of the last century. Sapping any potential for generational wealth in the same way black people are culturally encouraged and sustained by their peers to do the same. People who want will do, and th…
/r/MensRights02/05/25 07:46 PM
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I'm American... But I feel like the feminists most (vocal) countries have, have been reduced to prioritized and platformed signal boosted trauma. Trauma is something most of us have. And placing that trauma on someone else is typically (and rightfully) seen as unfair despite all of us knowing it is to protect ourselves. But while this is known, because of the different importances we have in each other, one side's trauma is basically seen as a beat all to anyone else's. So men are basically task…
/r/MensRights02/05/25 10:39 AM
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I think it's even more telling that you omitted the "good for you and good for women (verbatim: us)" in your response. Condemning men in this sort of witch hunt to see who can metaphorically pass the vibe check is pretty immature because people who are simply insecure and not guilty will be falsely flagged as a person you should point your finger at. Young people are victimized. Do you see how much discourse "Adolescence" created for small boys, and even some mothers preemptively thinking of how…
/r/MensRights01/05/25 09:59 AM
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I think it's a hidden value to women hating men and saying nobody hates them. It's kind of like a closure situation. If you know why someone doesn't like you, and who those exact people are, no matter how many they are, it may do less damage to your psyche than if not. Not knowing who hates you, or why, but knowing that so many people do, creates internalized turmoil that is generated from the fact that you may feel you have done no wrong, but now feel wrong, and have no idea what it is you're d…
/r/MensRights01/05/25 09:29 AM
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Men (and boys) are unfortunately at odds with their own image. Complaining, whether just or not, is seen as less than, speaking against women, the same, and protecting people from women, the same. Men can stand up for themselves, but... They're the bear in a situation like this. They're not seen as reasonable sentient and rational equal beings, just angry fear mongering avatars to protect society from. Like a firearm, you take it from the safe, use it, put it away and don't talk about it. It sav…
/r/MensRights01/05/25 06:41 AM
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Because you saying it is a power move even though it literally isn't is the issue. YOU might think it's a power move. In that case, whatever. But men trying to understand what is an acceptable way to behave around women aren't going to say "heh let me hold the door open and pull a power play". You telling men this who may be completely inexperienced with women are going to take your words as law. It's like if a girl tells me texting her if she got home safe is creepy. I argue it's not creepy, an…
/r/MensRights30/04/25 05:57 PM
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It's going to be real hard to convince a not bad incel that an incel isn't that bad of a thing if it's something you weaponize to make people feel bad. It's like saying small dick energy or something like that, there are probably people with small dicks that feel slighted by it even though they've done no wrong. It's indirect. Like how media associates male spaces with Andrew Tate unprovoked, and insults them as if they all are guided by him. Like shame on someone's face, they can't hide it, the…
/r/MensRights30/04/25 05:41 PM
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Being listened to I guess.
/r/MensRights30/04/25 03:08 PM
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Yeah it's going to be up shits creek for men. I'm sorry to you and everyone that has to and have suffered from that.
/r/MensRights30/04/25 01:23 PM
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Some of that is true, but it's a drop in the ocean I was trying to explain. If people who don't have to be better aren't encouraged to be better by people they now (hopefully) care about. It probably won't do much. Everyone deserves the opportunity to live their life. I'm sorry for your relationship. I made the point of stressing that I don't think you're wrong because I don't. Men are basically tasked to show women we're human, and a lot of testimonials from women reveal they only really saw th…
/r/MensRights30/04/25 11:07 AM
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Nobody said you had to. I think you're just ignorant to what I'm saying. You're married, you're not looking, you've got little to prove and no one to fight to get what you already have. Ugh, you said could be, not are. Fine. Are women typically vocal about the intangibles? If you want to talk in bubbles, I'm sure there's a mirror you can find. You say people need one woman to do the job. Yes, and there are people still out there trying to find one. The men and women doing so are at odds with the…
/r/MensRights30/04/25 04:59 AM
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The boat analogy is simply that men who don't fight in a world of soldiers are going to be deemed as less than and forgotten. Living without dying, or dying without living is kind of a choice people need to make for themselves. I think you're misunderstanding why I said what I said. The people we respect in this world probably don't even need it, and the people who are solid in who they are aren't even likely to be here reading this either. The people who are reading this, are either simply figh…
/r/MensRights30/04/25 01:42 AM
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You're not wrong... It's just that the way it's currently structured is like slaves being eyed and purchased. How much you make, appearance, performance, tolerance, obedience, potential. And some women want that info upfront. Interrogations, shit tests, constant favors etc. The men who don't get their applications read are just looking for a chance to be seen. The infighting is typically for attention and recognition. I guess a more succinct way to say it is like this... Absolutely every man nee…
/r/MensRights30/04/25 01:15 AM
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The only people who can successfully censor you are the mods. I brought it up already. You insult this group nonstop why are you even here? Is everyone in the entire group insulting you? Did you get booed out of here on entry like other groups would? You keep championing feminism... Go be a feminist then. You're going to find out real quick how useless that is. I'm going to say it one more time for the braincells in the back. The small amount of people making you angry isn't everyone. And you sh…
/r/MensRights29/04/25 09:37 PM
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But are you listening? Do you even care about what that means regardless of if it's what they said or what you said? If people aren't listening to you, you need to learn how to speak to them so that they do, or do so so well that you can just chalk it up to the idea they don't care if they refuse. As it is, you're assuming that people don't care about what you have to say, while you're ruining your reputation, pissing on the same flag we proudly wave, and attacking the people you want to listen …
/r/MensRights29/04/25 09:13 PM
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So... Your parents give you good advice, and you don't listen to it because you say it's gatekeeping? If you've ever wanted to speak to people who refuse to understand, it becomes an objective to speak with more clarity so that they do, and you can also absolve yourself from blame for the misunderstanding. But... Again, you insult the group, and you threaten becoming a feminist...
/r/MensRights29/04/25 08:50 PM
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One thing about clinging to a title is that it makes you vulnerable to the changes that title takes over the course of time. It's like someone saying they still support BLM. They might actually support that ideal, however, there is so much negativity around it now that saying it without having to disown it in the next few sentences makes it better to not say at all. Feminism has some values that could be taught. Though it was from years ago. Those values could be taught by simply teaching equali…
/r/MensRights29/04/25 08:38 PM
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She brings it up like 6 minutes in. She's got issues with unpaid and unappreciated work among other things, and I guess if no one values it, she doesn't either. The idea she feels it's patriarchal is just icing on the cake of why she doesn't care to want to do it. She understands how important it is, but I guess it's just not something she wants people to appreciate because patriarchy.
/r/MensRights29/04/25 02:49 PM
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I think it's more personal issues than anything else. If there is anything I feel is fully deserving of retort it's how much disdain she has against sustaining a healthy household. I don't think child me has EVER considered my mother or father as less than for staying home when they could, or doing their best when they couldn't (I did miss my dad a lot though). And it's this internalized self hatred about doing this that is always so alarming. It's like women don't understand the COMPLETE shift …
/r/MensRights29/04/25 02:39 PM
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Men's issues are bigger than you, me, or any singular person. And because you don't get what you want? You do the same thing you always do. Shame the entire group, say they're not worth it, brag about switching political sides... You're doing what the people we complain about do. Throwing everyone and everything under the bus that doesn't give you what you want. So you shit on a male space because not everyone is interested in what you want? (Sometimes it's just how inarticulate you can be). If …
/r/MensRights29/04/25 01:37 PM
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If men aren't honest, they're seen as a danger to society, if they are honest, there are different insults, like insecure, incel, loser. If women aren't honest, it was some other guy's fault. Your insecurity is your fault, their insecurity is your fault. At the end of the day, men getting treated like shit gets them to work harder, makes the world more money. Women augmenting themselves and changing their appearance is going to do the exact same thing. Because those women (sometimes) look worth …
/r/MensRights28/04/25 07:17 PM
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Middle-aged women are typical victims, often big-hearted people searching for love. She also has like 5 kids and... She must have grown that big heart a little too late? Typically that's the case, maybe not for her. It's so annoying to hear this be used as if old people in general aren't looking for an attractive lover. The way the blame is shifted from a woman that is at least over 40 or 50 to just specifically fault the African Prince like scam that happened. It's just infantalized. Obviously …
/r/MensRights28/04/25 09:45 AM
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I will definitely agree that the overwhelming majority of early day vocal feminists were basically walking sandbags with colored hair. They hated men for things that most men hearing wouldn't have even thought would ever happen to people like them... Ever! But frankly, people like that being afraid or angry never bothered me as much because there never really was a doubt in my mind that most men wouldn't even look at them once if they didn't have to, and that women could understand that too. It …
/r/MensRights28/04/25 09:00 AM
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If she was protecting her kid and not being ugly then it would be different. If that were the case though she probably would have just held the soda. I didn't know you were just 20. I would have shot back with "I can't drink either, Lady!" But it is what it is. It's up to you whether you feel like staying kind so you don't hurt nice people, or be like everyone else. If you need to hear it from someone else, you didn't do anything wrong.
/r/MensRights28/04/25 03:31 AM
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I remember how much hate boys got for being enamored by cargo shorts... To this day shoving random shit in the pockets still feels better than trusting people not to take my stuff. Everyone is just NPCs now it feels. If they help you, cool, if not, fuck em. You're probably going to have to go the extra mile to not be in situations like that though. I'm sure you'd be the asshole if she asked you to hold her stuff while she dug through her purse.
/r/MensRights28/04/25 03:23 AM
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It's just manipulation based on weaponizing people's desire to be approved of. It doesn't need to make sense or even be true if it works. Get men to leave their current bastion, and seek guidance from the same people who push them away. The ones who die or hurt in the process serve as examples for the onlookers. Don't be like them, be Borg. It's disgusting, but it's what it is. They don't care enough to see how much damage they're doing for the sake of their narrow minded progress.
/r/MensRights28/04/25 12:49 AM
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As if deleting your posts changes how you feel... Literally just control.
/r/MensRights27/04/25 10:11 PM
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I feel like this might come after a man finally learns how to respect (and defend) himself. There are a lot of men out there that don't feel like they're enough because it's the world's best kept secret to if any man has actually done enough. It seems like there's such a soap bubble layer thin line between "Good Man" and "Bare Minimum" And if the men we respect are still not good enough for people we want to respect us... What more needs to be done? The feminity aspect is a lot of a hinderance i…
/r/MensRights27/04/25 08:50 AM
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The easiest way to fool a lost person is with a sign. Making men lost, and then telling men what to do every step of the way is just puppeteering. And that's essentially what it is going on. Men judged fatter people? Body positivity, they judged promiscuity? Slut shaming, they protect themselves? They're sexist. They find men's spaces? They're incel misandrists. They ignore my advances? He must be gay. EVERY man is trash but MY man. What does that mean? Men have no value to ANY woman unless they…
/r/MensRights26/04/25 05:01 PM
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It's like someone else uploading your photo and personal info into a non trustworthy place looking for information on whether you've been scammed or not. None of their security gets compromised, just yours. Obviously now you're subject to their less than ideal database of gossip. In the same way men will get interrogated when some of their girlfriends simply have a bad dream about them. Or the inhuman part, you might just be a bunch of categories in an Excel spreadsheet like you're some sort of …
/r/MensRights26/04/25 11:01 AM
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You'd have to apply a lot of relativity to it... But a movie called White man's burden. It's basically society in a race swap kindled by a racist call to one's character that leads to unemployment without proper investigation. But in the eyes of people who don't see ambivalently, it's an eye opener to prejudices and how impactful the lack of opportunity is to someone's livelyhood. Some liberties people are blind to become apparent to them at times if it's not portrayed by people they'd rather se…
/r/MensRights25/04/25 04:31 PM
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I don't really hunt other men. Usually it's just me feeling nostalgic about how far some dudes still will go for some attention. Like, the guys who will get up in the big guy's face when a girl is around, or start talking tough when they never did before. It's silly but if it works it works I guess. If I were envious, it wasn't because of men. It was because of how easy that man is to pull away from a group of friends by any woman. You know, when a girl talks to one guy in the group and it doesn…
/r/MensRights24/04/25 11:16 PM
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I think the thing that we gloss over is how many times would we pick a female friend over a male friend if we had exactly the same hobbies as well as interests in discussing and collaborating in said hobby. Most of us have male friends over women friends because they're easier to talk to and have the same level of care about a topic or interest. If I answer the question directly it'll seem like I don't care about men... But the truth is, men are normal and if men were as difficult to talk to as …
/r/MensRights24/04/25 07:05 PM
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You don't think men want to stop it? THEY DO! But look, the don't cheat gun points both ways. There's not a, don't live rent free in my house law, or don't try to steal my kid from me law, or, don't marry me just to divorce me later and take everything law. So now what do we have? We are men. We give tangible things in hopes for intimate intangible things. Sex and love. There are no laws that give you sex and love... That's free will. But there are laws that will lose you your money, stuff and k…
/r/MensRights24/04/25 01:38 PM
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This is Bruce Almighty territory man... You can't fuck with free will. Nobody has to love you, nobody has to want to have sex. And unfortunately that's what we're looking for and the world knows. Marriage and "cohabitation" Laws are both protections for the most opportunistic leeches in society, male or female. Because I'd imagine if a law like this existed and someone married a sugar momma, they'd probably be moved to behave the same way. You'd just have to trust who you're with and that's it r…
/r/MensRights24/04/25 01:22 PM
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I feel like cheating is already weaponized by women. I get you're trying to come from a good place and are saying it in good faith of restoring relationships... But you're going to get people who are already in a bad relationship to get sabotaged by their partner. Men get divorced, they get screwed, men cheat, they get screwed... So they're just doubly screwed? Getting married and then soon after having less sex, needing to get attention elsewhere, being an accessory, and then getting rung throu…
/r/MensRights24/04/25 01:07 PM
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The issue is that women are punching down at men for what superiors have done to them, and men are basically saying. "Friendly fire, check your fire!" And they're not listening because as far as they're concerned men single handedly voted in the people who are making them feel marginalized. We're shaking our fist at the right thing, and they're shaking their fist at us because they think we did or want something we didn't do or want. And we can't tell them anything because of the few men in thei…
/r/MensRights24/04/25 01:41 AM
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And meanwhile the Freemasons are still around... Basically in plain sight. If you're really interested in picking a group for people and not just yourself, why pick a group you yourself claim was undone? Furthermore, do you want this group to be associated with a negative origin people can continue to use against the cause in the same way Andrew Tate's name is used to undermine the plight of every man women currently don't care about?
/r/MensRights24/04/25 01:32 AM
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If you wanted to be for a group that supports community, skill building and growth. Why wouldn't you suggest men try to create a group like the Freemasons? There's a lot less negativity and worry around that group compared to the Illuminati. And you didn't really talk about it yesterday, you spent way more time talking about how you had to pee.
/r/MensRights24/04/25 01:04 AM
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Yes... They put it into the "Oppressed people can't oppress others" pile, in the same way they say, "You can't be a minority and be racist." They seem to feel like as long as they're punching upward, no one is going to get hurt because they're the "little guy" in the altercation. I'd just say move on. You're not dealing with rational adult.
/r/MensRights23/04/25 02:22 AM
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Sometimes I swear you treat this place as your diary...
/r/MensRights23/04/25 12:10 AM
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It's possible that it doesn't need to be closed. But utilized in the same way it is to demonize men but champion women... It'll take people who actually want to change it, and podcasters, news articles, redditors and etc to all give a shit about it enough to get traction. Unfortunately men's message is movies like "Working Man" and women's message is something like "Dying for Sex"... Young boys message is the reception to the limited series "Adolescence". Hollywood is pushing people in that dire…
/r/MensRights23/04/25 12:08 AM
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You read the "teach women to want better" completely out of context. If women want more, men can't stop struggling. Women weren't "evolved" to want more. They were socially exposed to the fact they could have their cake and eat it. If it were simply evolutionary, it wouldn't have required the internet to be a looking glass to see what they could get away with.
/r/MensRights22/04/25 11:48 PM
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Like you said yourself... If you don't care, you can't expect others to care. Most men's issues stop and go at the man. Like your guy friends breaking from the group when they find a relationship, or blocking you because their girlfriend said they didn't like you. Most men aren't doing it for other men, just their woman so ultimately themselves. If our entire journey starts and finishes at marriage and family... It's in the best interest of consumerism to stop that from happening. Lonely men nea…
/r/MensRights22/04/25 11:34 PM
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I can't tell you the sheer amount of women I've interacted with that I know nothing about. If people only interact for favors, to make demands, or to complain about one side being worse than the other and that's it, there's never going to be a connection between men and women. There was a topic here about an 18 or 19 year old girl / woman being afraid to approach. I'll assume the reply was from a woman but her solution was to stare at him, break the gaze and then do it again. Look, if a dude did…
/r/MensRights22/04/25 11:00 PM
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I think in mid 2010s was when Tumblr was cool and the economy took a pretty big shit. I don't even remember if the girls back then were super sour or not. I think the only thing my brain colorfully recalls is Topless Tuesdays... I clearly need Jesus.
/r/MensRights22/04/25 06:55 PM
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Revenge will just put men further in the hole. Thing that hurts more is that even with it put in plain sight, the amount of people who defend one side but are oblivious to the other is outrageous. We've got more respect for animals. If we know everyone wants to see animals but they'd get mauled if they were hungry or get their territory invaded, we feed the animals, and keep their spaces to them. What do we do for men and boys? The opposite. We make men's spaces shared spaces, we tempt them, sho…
/r/MensRights22/04/25 06:36 PM
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I've never used dating apps because I remember when they were brand new and girls used to talk about making bogus accounts just to see who was on them and make fun of them later. I didn't, and still don't want that to ever be me. If you can apply relativity to what I just said, approaching the wrong woman will make you into news for her friends group. You can be made out to be the chump who asked out someone who was apparently out of your league of whatever crap you'd think people would have gro…
/r/MensRights21/04/25 03:26 PM
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Obviously not. It's basically a gimme shot for them. You're being nice, they think you're being a "nice guy" and they know being that way to people like that will hurt those men most. They're probably high fiving each other like they've just smashed the patriarchy... When in the wrong situation they could have just irritated someone who was just being nice. Those are probably the type of women who will slide into a doorway as it's closing so that the man behind them has to open it completely... …
/r/MensRights21/04/25 09:30 AM
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The dilemma is that advocating for rights as men get you seen as less of a man. The men who want, need even, these things the most, are at odds with their own appeal to society. Risk their personal appeal for nothing if no one joins their outcry, or hush up and keep trying to be seen by the varsity scouts who are mainly focused on the Quarterback?
/r/MensRights20/04/25 10:30 PM
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I don't think you're wrong at all. It's just sad to see because if they genuinely felt like that... They must think the concept of being a woman is slavery to a man. If men really felt that way they wouldn't go through the ends they do to get one, and refuse to seek to oppress the same women they try so hard to impress. Inevitably the women who want what you state will respect men beneath them a lot less if that's what's generally important to the most vocal of them. Because demanding drinks, da…
/r/MensRights20/04/25 10:29 AM
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It's kind of just selfish. If it weren't selfish, they would lend more of an ear to reason and understand that putting men into such a risky position will lead them to generally just dismiss women and live without them. It's kind of just: you have a toy I want, and instead of acknowledging the work or responsibility that comes with having it, they just want it. Whether it be more money, or anything else. They're not worried about what happens to you because as far as they're concerned most men t…
/r/MensRights19/04/25 08:27 PM
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It wasn't really about blaming the men as much as it is about blaming the only person with ultimate authority over the situation. Are bad workers to blame for a boss that doesn't do their job on them because the boss feels it's too much work? They're basically enabled children... Think about how many men completely step up when there is a baby on the line. (Some don't but) Nobody is ever going to know what a man can be until he is given the opportunity to be it. The child gets robbed from knowin…
/r/MensRights19/04/25 10:23 AM
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I feel like it's a guilt shift based on desire. For example, women who say things like, I want his baby, but some other guy would be a great father to my kids. They're not calculated as people, just provisions who are shamed with a half true call to their humanity. The children suffer, but their real father is likely alive and getting away with it because the woman knows damn well that man isn't fit to be the child's father. And like a good worker, you're encouraged to do better because they kno…
/r/MensRights18/04/25 11:28 PM
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It's terrifying to think about... Because when women get in relationships with men who fit their vocalized fears to a T... Are they simply arming themselves by association? I clearly need to think about something else...
/r/MensRights18/04/25 11:14 PM
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The problem is framing. Women act like shields. They can block, but they feel they can't stop a strong sword. They block and shatter all the weak swords because they're afraid of the swords that can break their guard. Most "swords" aren't interested in attacking anyone. But the fact that they CAN attack gets them treated as if they will. "Citizens are uncomfortable when talked to with a drawn blade" Furthermore, because men are treated as the only swords, they're blamed for not attacking the swo…
/r/MensRights18/04/25 10:45 PM
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I try not to linger in places that make me feel that way. The job better be really good. Or I'm going to be really gone.
/r/MensRights18/04/25 08:57 PM
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When men's dress code typically max out at suit and tie. The suit and tie means less, and how the suit and tie fit, as well as the brand of the suit and tie matter more than simply wearing one. As long as people assume the best thing a man can wear is a nice suit... There isn't much room to grow. Korean fashion is pretty good. Lots of rebellious looks and styles. But at the end of the day, most people prefer for you to wear a suit... So you're kind of wasting time unless you feel the desire to m…
/r/MensRights18/04/25 08:55 PM
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It's a shame that the issues were laid out for all to bear and instead of blaming themselves, the culture we all perpetuate, or support young struggling children... We just turn up the heat and make it more appealing for troubled youth to do exactly what we should be worried about. If we as a society don't want our boys to be monsters, why is that the only thing we bring to their attention. It's like they're getting an ink blot test and everything they say pertains to violence and fear.
/r/MensRights18/04/25 08:45 PM
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I read it way too fast. It said throwing blocks. That's on me.
/r/MensRights17/04/25 08:01 PM
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Yeah I had no idea... I guess it really was a fashion symbol...
/r/MensRights17/04/25 04:21 PM
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I think the issue is that it takes a good read to maybe understand how you feel. Also you kind of jam how you feel into a single topic and addressing all of it isn't really... Going to be very effective? You also say things that kind of invoke confusion like this... My kind is here, and our time has come. This isn’t about gender anymore but about those of us who are Rhesus negative, autistic, liberal, three-spirit, or carrying a messianic spirit. We are here, and we will stand up to be recognize…
/r/MensRights17/04/25 04:00 PM
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I think the answer is in plain sight. The child isn't used to having to focus on one thing. Or even harder skills for kids, like learning how to share, or understanding that life isn't only about them. The parents are working. They need somewhere for their child to go. They probably let their child tend to themselves for most of that time, no one to talk to, curiosity being the only thing that's keeping them from being disruptive. Going through mom's drawer, flipping through books they can't rea…
/r/MensRights17/04/25 03:04 PM
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Look, not everyone knows what happened. Hell, I didn't know either. People were commenting on what they were presented. That statement on its own is worthy of criticism. You making the thread blaming men for not running the image over Google translate and figuring out what actually happened in a place where it's usually shared in complete context isn't really something you should be upset at others for, much less just calling them racist or against immigration. Men are already processed in bad f…
/r/MensRights17/04/25 02:09 PM
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These people aren't racist. And think, if the guy didn't translate what was said, who would know? The basis of that translation alone was what a lot of people were basing their opinions on. Not immigration, not racism... Sexism. But the issue here is you're still pivoting. Not every guy on the street is looking to stab some girls, it doesn't matter if the guy was translucent or nebula black, if they can be identified as a guy she's apparently taking a detour. Ultimately, helping guys at large wo…
/r/MensRights17/04/25 12:33 PM
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You're never going to win against people who are told by everyone (that matters to them) that they're on the right side doing the right thing. You're just stepping up to the batter to get swung at. It's a waste of time energy and air.
/r/MensRights17/04/25 11:26 AM
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I saw this somewhere else... I swear if he didn't have a camera people would have believed her... She's such an ugly human for what she did. Especially after her first bit about not wanting to be taken advantage of. I could have gone several lifetimes without seeing this, but it is worth seeing something that makes your jaw slam down as hard as this did.
/r/MensRights17/04/25 10:42 AM
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I play video games myself. I mean you could look a little deeper before you decide to take offense to nothing...
/r/MensRights17/04/25 10:36 AM
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So... In an effort to release the person in the other topic from fair criticism... You repeat the same process with your topic title, and shift the discussion to immigration and get upset at us for not being as vigilant on one topic as another? Do you realize you can do that to literally anyone, about anything? What exactly are you trying to accomplish by doing this?
/r/MensRights17/04/25 02:37 AM
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The problem with everything a man is is based on appeal. Long story short. Because men are essentially the "End User" in every agreement, they're subject to the lows of every problem. If men don't get assistance nobody is going to pick them up. They have to pick themselves up, serve the world, and whatever the world deems sufficient to compensate them is what they have. Their world appeal comes from whether others feel their compensations are attractive enough to join with. If they did this to w…
/r/MensRights16/04/25 10:12 PM
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People already outnumber their oppressors... What are they doing? Nothing. There are more women than men in the United States. They've yet to do anything with that advantage outside of make men feel like ticking timebombs that have absolutely no self control if made aware of their agency. So if men were that oppressive, why haven't the women crushed us? Probably because we're useful, easy to manipulate and they like a few of us. As long as turning your gun on the master is seen as evil, the amou…
/r/MensRights16/04/25 09:39 PM
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It's the equivalent of axe body spray... If girls like it then that's why most guys would even get it. Most guys couldn't give a hoot about how another guy feels they smell. There were cologne commercials like that too. Some blindfolded girl in a room and a guy walking around and leaving. Just marketing slop unless you are looking for a smell change.
/r/MensRights16/04/25 09:00 PM
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It'll probably lead to a lot of crying because some women are touchy feely. Grab your arm, rub your chest, pat your stomach... Stuff like that. Others might ask you for help constantly so you keep having to be near them. And then a small amount of them might flat out ask you. So those girls getting called out for simply catching a glance or tapping their friend to look at you. Yeah it'll be tragic.
/r/MensRights16/04/25 11:02 AM
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I think it's basically about everything... I remember I had a girlfriend still in school when I graduated 17 and 16, nothing sick people. And she told people about me and they all just gassed me up. Every girl gossiping wants to have the best guy at the table. I remember there was this girl who used to come to lunch with all of us. Most of them were couples, and she would talk about her prison boyfriend like he was the greatest dude ever. I could be a newborn baby and still have forehead wrinkle…
/r/MensRights16/04/25 10:58 AM
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Communication is the issue. I've known people who think the only place they should have meaningful conversion is on a date, I know others who won't tell you anything personal until you see them elsewhere, like a party, church, or even a game night. If you know nothing about someone and just think they're very cute, I don't feel like there's a good reason to ask them out. I get why you'd want to, someone should clearly get that you're interested in them if you're asking them out. But seriously I'…
/r/MensRights16/04/25 10:40 AM
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It's going to be hard to convince people like that of parity because women raping men isn't called rape. Women hitting men isn't always called abuse, and women defaming men everywhere isn't always called or considered misandry. So by that point, if you're dealing with a group of people who refuse to be wrong even when they are... Like the wage gap. You're never going to get them to admit it because they don't want you to have any ground to stand on. You're just a bug that is supposed to concur w…
/r/MensRights15/04/25 11:17 PM
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Sheesh... Being the baby brother with two older sisters and having a law like this would have made my life irrefutably worse... I already grew up with sisters and god-sisters who would hit boys and they'd all tell on men who hit back. There are already stars, athletes and even regular people who make sure to document their encounters with women or visibly do things like make no contact in photos and things like that. Making a law based incentive for women to be more vile toward men while they've…
/r/MensRights15/04/25 10:38 PM
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You're looking exactly like the people you hate... Women behave the same way. Every man but my man is subhuman etc. Leaving men on read forever etc. I'm not saying you shouldn't feel that way, but you probably shouldn't be that way... You don't think all men cringe on the inside when women throw men under the bus and then pedal to the metal? Most men aren't saying anything because they want a relationship and also aren't ready to get painted red by women for visibly being bothered by always bein…
/r/MensRights15/04/25 10:12 PM
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There's a serious void of communication between men and women. There has already been a topic in here with a woman saying she needs help retaining respect for a man if he cries. If men feel they cannot communicate, complain, express their fears or worries... Most aren't going to ever come to the understanding that life is just rough. And instead think, if they're the only people crying about it, maybe they're just bad men and if they can't do it, they're not good enough and might as well just di…
/r/MensRights15/04/25 06:55 PM
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I think it's funny how people basically say therapy can heal everything but for whatever reason competitiveness and insecurity are things that therapy can't heal if it's a woman? Also, I don't think men even listen to women artists as much as other women do (anymore)... So I don't understand how this competitiveness is a guy problem. I'm not tryna blast ratchet or WAP in my car. Ever. Maybe in the older days of like Chic and SOS, Lauren Hill Alicia Keys Missy Elliot, or some girl rock and music.…
/r/MensRights14/04/25 06:48 PM
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The usual opposition is that it's general and usually pivots to societal norms and expectations. Like women serving less time for the same crime, expecting men to do what men have always done but getting angry when men expect the same. Obvious stuff, nothing related to strength or whatever, and it's still not communicated because that's not what these people want to do. It's like someone who will never say sorry or be sorry. You just have to get away from them.
/r/MensRights14/04/25 04:38 PM
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I think the biggest issue is that there are a lot of people in the middle who don't have a place at all too. And there are even more people who feel just as horribly as the Incel groups and pill communities do but don't want to be affiliated with them for obvious reasons. So I do feel like the best place anyone can help is in plain sight. Lots of men are called outside of their name for having a differing opinion on it, and even condemned for hating women or not caring about them. There's an ent…
/r/MensRights14/04/25 04:25 PM
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Being scared of spiders is more rational than losing respect for a man for caring about things enough to cry. The fact that you're considering resenting men for having the ability to cry without unreasonable damage to your opinion of them is more selfish than anything because it should tell you that you feel you're doing something you don't have to do. Like being diplomatic with someone who almost got you fired. The way you change your mindset is to change what you think a man is. Just the same …
/r/MensRights13/04/25 12:52 PM
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If we had structures... Which is validating in and of itself. Think like this. In older times, the family structure and social groups existed that reinforced your opinions. What hard work means, the importance of a family, being faithful and loyal to your spouse, and raising your children to be greater than you. There were bad things too. Racism sexism etc. Those things only were allowed to exist because the family allowed it, or even believed it and so did their peers. Those structural things a…
/r/MensRights13/04/25 11:56 AM
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Some people lose their morals when they know nobody will stop them. Example 1. In united states certain places reduced stealing to a misdemeanor if it was under a thousand dollars. More people stole. Not because they don't know better, but because they knew they'd get away with it. Example 2. Facebook had lifted a rule about hate speech if it was directed at Russia for a while when the Russia Ukraine thing started. Lots of people started being hateful towards them just because they could. Exampl…
/r/MensRights13/04/25 11:24 AM
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If shame makes you do it, it helps them. If shame makes other men simp for those women, it helps them. If shame makes you police other men, it helps them. A real man, my future boyfriend/husband/lover would do etc are just women manifesting their desires onto men. If women being mean to men was harmless like they'd make you believe, they wouldn't do it. It's why some people get ganged up on when they say people shouldn't date single mothers, OnlyFans models, adult workers etc. If everyone believ…
/r/MensRights12/04/25 07:06 PM
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I think the counterpoint he tries to put on his argument is wrong, and makes the rest of it look worse. Women love to talk about their problems and express their feelings, and what they want more than anything is for someone to listen. They do not necessarily even want the problem solved. They just want sympathy. There are definitely some groups who look like they're just complaining, but he ruins anything he could have said because why is women wanting to be heard and not wanting their problem …
/r/MensRights12/04/25 08:58 AM
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It is working as intended lol. If you don't like a girl, you're gay even if you arent, if you don't get girls you're a loser and should get your life together. If you don't accept things women do you're a misogynist and hate women. I'd say you're spot on. It's a huge process of passing the personality test and being a green flag without giving the ick...
/r/MensRights11/04/25 07:19 PM
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I think you hate women who abuse their privilege. It's kind of like hating police and people like them who abuse authority except that every woman can be capable of doing it. I guess it's easier to frame if you have choices. Why WOULDN'T you say no if you could and suffer absolutely no consequence? You'd have to care. Like a guy sitting in a chair when someone else or a kid is standing. You give up your chair because you care. A lot of women don't care and that's the issue. I'd say you're only h…
/r/MensRights11/04/25 10:56 AM
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It's not really seen properly is the problem. We need to handle it the same way we handle spoiled children. When a child feels like being a brat, kicking and screaming because they don't get whatever they want. We try to console them, educate them, and if that means nothing. Their tears due to those things mean nothing. Example, some kid takes someone's toy away because they want it. We tell them that's wrong, give them the opportunity to share. They still don't. They take the toy and run away. …
/r/MensRights11/04/25 12:12 AM
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Who would expect someone to be a care giver if they obviously don't care? It looks like the CEO situation where they're incentivized to tank the company and get a great severance package, and go run another company and tank that too. The Ouya CEO and the Google Stadia CEO comes to mind. Or even simpler, the crypto rugpull bullshit. I think relationships would last a lot longer if investments were shared. You can't expect someone who gets in free to respect the time shared as much as someone who …
/r/MensRights10/04/25 08:25 AM
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It's laughable they cite power over others and competitive superiority when I usually hear girls that beat men at something brag the loudest, and teaching the future generation should be considered the ultimate power over others... A big catalyst to child problems in my opinion is how important things are to them. Being bullied for being poor, lonely, a bastard, adopted, etc are going to effect them all differently depending on what they care about. I don't think people spend enough time on what…
/r/MensRights10/04/25 01:07 AM
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Thank god they understood. I had a principal that understood once. I don't know what would have happened if she didn't. It was weird because she didn't do anything to either of us but she never bothered me again... But clearly our fate depends solely on people with authority who get it. And with the general discourse... A lot of people don't get it.
/r/MensRights09/04/25 11:04 PM
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Lol I'm way older now. Besides, girls grow faster than boys for the first few years it seems. After 3rd or 4th grade it would have been stupid for either of them to do... So they basically just hit me when I was a little booger head. Which is even more pathetic to me. Mothers shouldn't act like that, that's an absolute fact, she was the worst of it all. Because of course kids are going to be bullies if they think it's okay. I seriously worry if I'll ever meet a woman like my mom. Just repeating …
/r/MensRights09/04/25 10:32 PM
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Men are basically judged with what they can do. Men can hurt women, so we say, men can't do things that can hurt a woman. But because men can do things they haven't, or may never do... They fear men. I've got two older sisters. Better believe they hit me all the time and retorted with, "You can't hit girls!" If I hit them, I got in trouble. "They hit me first! " "I DON'T CARE YOU DON'T HIT GIRLS" That's my mom right there. Her greatest fear that her son would be a woman beater. Who cares what ha…
/r/MensRights09/04/25 10:20 PM
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When he was doing speeches in colleges he was a lot more passionate about getting people to understand the problem and not just powering through it like using a 5090 on an unoptimized game... The last few things I've seen of JP was kind of just, don't be in that position, don't be the good worker pestered to work harder etc. Blaming people for who they are rather than the people who choose to abuse them. https://youtu.be/NX2ep5fCJZ8?si=e7o72syXrPYFvSku https://youtu.be/xY48e1oDXSU?si=X8yFgAHAQWs…
/r/MensRights09/04/25 10:02 PM
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I personally don't think so. But I am aware of the girl good man bad monkey brain society we live in. No matter how fair or how diplomatic you try to be about any of it, someone is still going to think you're the bad guy. Instead of: "Don't push men around or hit them." It'll be: "Don't do things that make women feel the need to attack you." I do feel it's better. I just feel like I'd need proof. Like showing the world the difference between someone hitting you because they are defending themsel…
/r/MensRights09/04/25 08:10 PM
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JP used to be so good at standing up for values like that... Idk what happened but he seems more like a businessman now. I don't know about role model but stardusk aka Thinking-Ape has some deep thought topics for men he talks about regularly. He's been on the platform before it was cool and is still there.
/r/MensRights09/04/25 07:58 PM
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It's to be expected. Look at the other topic in this sub about girls on TikTok condemning their own sons before birth of things they're not even likely to do. If they can point the sword at their own kids, of course they're going to go full swing on someone else.
/r/MensRights09/04/25 07:55 PM
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I'm saying that if you can't be completely justified in your ability to defend yourself... It'll be harder to do so. Like you opened with, pushing a girl away who is attacking you is something you're seeking a better solution of. Pepper spray is fine as long as you can communicate with evidence that you were defending yourself. Women kind of have the world on their side, where they are enabled and supported to be on the defense at all times. Men have to use discretion as to when and how much can…
/r/MensRights09/04/25 07:52 PM
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Yeah it is pretty one sided and really gives in to the problem that time is not considered valuable to the court system, but only the people who are paid by them. Hell, jurors are still compensated like shit because it's considered a civil duty. At the end of the day it's just stuck. Russel brand in ny opinion is one of the better people to get into this because he can talk on and on about it if he is innocent. Most people who could have been in similar situations are clearly proprietors of thei…
/r/MensRights09/04/25 07:45 PM
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If there was a legally reliable way for men to add consequence to double standard behavior, I think men would be on board. But if there is any enemy, it's probably perception. Amber Herd's "I wasn't punching you, I was hitting you" is a clear tell that she feels her actions are justified and yours aren't. You're probably going to need to have proof that her "I didn't do anything" is quite factually false before we continue down the poetic justice route. Glasses with always on cameras might be th…
/r/MensRights09/04/25 07:27 PM
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It's funny they think they're implanted with hell spawn they have no control over raising. The nurturing loving and fairer sex, pre concievably condemning their male children to death says a lot about how they ultimately feel about men if they're willing to fell their own boys for the sake of a message. If you can't do the job, don't come to work. It's so shameful seeing people tell on themselves saying that they can't do basically the only thing the world still expects them to do. Not that they…
/r/MensRights09/04/25 07:19 PM
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My main concern is that if he is innocent, will his life be returned to normal? Or will he always cast a shadow to people that he is guilty but just got away with it? We've seen people falsely accused who never returned to their old lives. And the people who are serving because of their lie, not even serving a 10th of the time they would have gotten someone else. It's a bridge we have to cross when we get there. But I couldn't even tell you what to think. Because if he was surrounded by people d…
/r/MensRights09/04/25 06:59 PM
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There are pioneers to the genre. People like Starduck (thinking ape) Karen Straughan, Sandman and even Barbarossa (Barbar) , and the first two really made a point in granting people perspective without too much hatred or angst towards women (because one of the first two is a woman). I'm not going to say Andrew Tate and by extension his brother are completely wrong. But you are probably aware of what we're dealing with. Taking ownership of a leader in a culture that isolates a single blemish and …
/r/MensRights08/04/25 08:26 PM
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I think the worst problem is that most authoritative women don't problem solve the same way men do. Zero tolerance isn't enforced properly. Bullying is bullying. And how you feel can affect how you act. The phrase "Sticks and stones" really doesn't amount to anything if you can't leave the place that's giving you grief. I've had the luxury of living a little before that policy. And there were a lot of people I've crossed fists with that I ended up being fine with after a mutual understanding tha…
/r/MensRights08/04/25 02:34 PM
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TLDR: Loneliness jealousy boredom (because of hopelessness), anger. I guess it depends on where you frequent. If you're at work. Anger and jealousy are easy picks. Girls getting easy jobs and telling you what to do, or asking you to cover for them when they take like 30 minutes screwing around. Only talking to you for a team lift or a favor. But outside of work... I think loneliness. Everywhere you look people are complaining about something or bragging about something. Media comes out for consu…
/r/MensRights08/04/25 02:10 PM
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Posting in here is like asking for help. If you ask for help you're not a man. If you want men to be better off somehow you hate women. Furthermore, anything that can be taken to be against women makes you an enemy of women. But somehow feminism is okay for everyone. If the adolescence show showed anything, it's that women have the same level of contempt for boys who are lost, and potentially violent. And instead of nurturing better behavior from those people, they're just discarded without furt…
/r/MensRights08/04/25 01:41 PM
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Economically. Giving men what they want, is essentially the garden of eden. Most men would happily live in a straw house or cave if it meant long term companionship. Giving men what they want is like telling a slave they don't have to do anything. If the powers that be keep telling Eve to eat the apple, nothing will be enough, and you'll always have to do more for the things we were simply designed to do. But telling women they can all do better makes them either hold their cards or increase the…
/r/MensRights08/04/25 12:37 AM
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There is a subreddit for the show. Indulge at your own peril...
/r/MensRights08/04/25 12:00 AM
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Yeah... Most news articles of women screwing around with little boys is missing the word rape. If they won't even condemn women for the sake of kids why in hell would they do it for men?
/r/MensRights07/04/25 11:56 PM
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I think feminism and men's issues can easily be framed like this. Good faith, and bad faith. When feminists are speaking of themselves, they make no mention of teachers in the drive through ordering kiddie cock jrs like it's the seasonal Mc Rib. They're not mentioning women frauding men with divorce and having children for the sake of child support. Or how it's a consensus that it's acceptable to blanketly say you hate men, and even attack other women for speaking otherwise. If they are delibera…
/r/MensRights07/04/25 11:44 PM
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As far as being adequately percieved as a man? Success, perseverance, strength, experience, stoicism. Basically... Just being an unmoving and unwavering wall that has valuable etchings on it that people feel the need to read. Otherwise... Just saying you're a man would be enough to most, just as saying you're a women is enough for most. Obviously if you wished to be intimate that would be a different deal. But being just any man is like being a gray extra in a comic panel. And it's why people fe…
/r/MensRights07/04/25 11:11 PM
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The whole idea of no being the most powerful word in any language only amounts to anything if it is used... Kissing is also different than having a girl touch your dick muscles and butt. But for whatever reason we chose to be specific.
/r/MensRights06/04/25 12:56 PM
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Yeah I couldn't see myself dating a woman who felt like she needed to do all that. I'd imagine all of those people now think you're a creep and because she already felt you were too scary to be alone with that it's basically solidified. Live and learn. If you're okay walking on eggshells all the time then go for it. I'm personally on the side of, if I'm supporting that behavior then I'm allowing people to think that that's how they should be behaving. I deserve better than that, and I think you …
/r/MensRights06/04/25 12:53 PM
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The person who is taught to care about themselves more is always going to be more likely to flop for a foul. If a girl grabs a man's butt or junk he's taught to feel like he's done something right to win the woman's approval. But if a man took issue with that and spoke up, there'd likely be people at large trying to bring him "down to earth" by saying he's being a baby. Hell, even male child victims are encouraged by men if the woman is attractive. At the end of the day, it depends on what's mor…
/r/MensRights06/04/25 10:52 AM
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Yes, they do. They generally expect you to be the creep they'd still sleep with. The jerk who still gets attention. The violent strong man that answers to specifically them. I always feel like the picture all the raging hair dye paint can throwers are trying to paint is that: "Every man is bad but there are a couple we're willing to make exceptions for." Like how boys sometimes do with the "but she's hot" or "she's a freak" to excuse what are clearly unhealthy habits. It seems culturally accepta…
/r/MensRights05/04/25 03:19 PM
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I'd probably do it for structure... Asian families work together, extended families, communities, parents are in their lives and don't feel like their own children are a burden. Latin families operate similarly, having recipies, voicing their concerns and sharing assets together. I don't really see that value in sharing assets and maintaining family structure being the acceptable norm in western society. Men living at home with family is completely shamed even if you contribute or even pay for i…
/r/MensRights04/04/25 09:01 PM
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Lol. I guess Gal Godot is another unrealistic beauty standard than needs to be shattered by the brigade. I remember my oldest sister cutting out pictures of Angel from Buffy the Vampire Slayer from magazines and TV guides. I can't even remember doing that to some famous woman much less a woman I was talking to. But yeah, it's dumb. I wish people could just be honest with each other instead of there being a one way shame culture that lets girls make remarks about men and grab men's butts in line …
/r/MensRights04/04/25 08:46 PM
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I think the hardest thing to accept here is that... Until a boy or man is convicted (or accused) of such crimes... It's seen as normal. Look at the show. Nothing was concerned with that. A literal son of the officer. Explaining it to his father, back against the wall because he's afraid of his father rather than just respectful. The officer's partner, dismisses Jamie and other boys like him because she feels it takes away from the girl victims and their families. The woman did do harm. But that …
/r/MensRights04/04/25 08:31 PM
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It's probably easier to get because your spouse insists things that happened, didn't happen, and things that didn't happen, happened. My mom made me feel like that because of the above. My dad did one or two times but he kind of just drops it because he's probably used to when mom does it to him. It's crazy how much more people used to take from each other. I don't think I'll ever have it in me to be with someone who can't even trust things I feel strongly enough about to remember...
/r/MensRights04/04/25 08:06 PM
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Redpill can be used as a scapegoat for issues and problems men face, often resigned in there to Andrew Tate. At the end of the day. Mgtow and others didn't just hit the tip of someone's mind and be adopted to everyone en masse. It was something first pondered, spoken, and agreed with. Unfortunately as it is it seemed no one is concerned with how or why, and only seek to defame anyone speaking about it as if they're completely in agreement. Which is further obfuscated by the blanket attribution o…
/r/MensRights31/03/25 11:12 AM
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I genuinely don't know what to take from the last bit. But the one before it pretty much illustrates society's growth. If not for the left hemisphere, transcending the average in order to grow is something that made us grow beyond caves and straw huts. Essentially doing more for naturally the same thing. And wanting more for the same purpose. Now, I don't think men should pay for these choices. I'm not trying to tell men to basically stampede into marriage. We all know where that ends for around…
/r/MensRights31/03/25 08:37 AM
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Then what are you really looking for? You say financial freedom should lead to less cheating. I never said that. I said that with agency gained by financial freedom people will make better choices for themselves. And immediately cited that others might not believe those to be the best choices, but the people making those choices will. Yeah, women are cheating. But now there's no excuse to their cheating except that they simply want to. I said that too. I'd rather people cheat because they want t…
/r/MensRights31/03/25 07:29 AM
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You won't know who someone is unless you give them the ability to make the choice. They chose each other, one person chose to cheat. But if one person can't leave until they cheat because they have nowhere to live if they leave, there's more justification to doing so than them simply wanting to cheat. You're making it black and white and some people change when things happen. Some women willingly get fat after pregnancy or don't care about sex after marriage, etc. And nobody is going to know unt…
/r/MensRights31/03/25 03:46 AM
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It depends on the person really. For example. A woman existing with her own options and agency shouldn't be something to argue against. I'm always going to be of the opinion that people who have choices will make better choices because they have enough options to choose what they want. OTHERS might not think it's not the best choice, but the person making that choice makes it for a reason, and whatever reason is better than, I didn't have a choice. Even if that choice is them taking the bone fro…
/r/MensRights31/03/25 03:07 AM
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Yes. Basically men are a force of will that needs to consistently police other men or they're just as liable or guilty as people who actually follow through. Think Gilette commercial. Stopping your friend from approaching a girl walking down the street is every man's job. If groups exist that poorly influence men and lead them to make very poor decisions. Every man is to blame. Obviously it's unrealistic to say all this. Unfair even. But when nobody cares, it's up to the people who do, to care. …
/r/MensRights31/03/25 02:38 AM
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I didn't point at this group because pointing out injustices isn't the same as a bunch of people coping together until they get a date. I understand completely why, but like I said, there isn't any connection because people aren't looking for friends. "Misery loves company" is very applicable here. I agree people can be lonely if they don't share interests but we fill things in we're okay with missing. There are tons of relationships where people have very little in common. This isn't to say it'…
/r/MensRights27/03/25 04:40 PM
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I think the loneliness is also born of desires unsatisfied. Like being around people but missing a friend. You can be surrounded by everyone ever but if it's not who you want it to be, it means less, maybe nothing. Think of all the pill groups and incels. They're literally groups of people looking for women or brooding about them. They're mostly together but still alone because it's not what they care about. Maybe a room full of boys and the one guy who groans about it being a sausage fest. Surr…
/r/MensRights27/03/25 03:12 PM
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If the world told you you could eat whenever you want, and whatever you want, with no recourse if you got fat because your community has your back. Why would you be satisfied? Some people do it simply because they can.
/r/MensRights26/03/25 06:38 PM
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If there's any simple way I could compare People's perception of man is the Prince Rupert's Drop. A drop of molten glass into cold water. We're always talking about how fortitudinous men are, how strong and brave they are and how they're basically built to weather the storm while pretending to ignore that puny tail of glass behind them. But when people want to hurt them, they know what's fragile. It always feels like simple methods of control. Give people something to want, and all you have to d…
/r/MensRights26/03/25 05:37 PM
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The news articles called him the Deadpool killer, so yes. Google Deadpool killer and it'll pop up.
/r/MensRights26/03/25 04:42 PM
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They might have not understood the context. And the guy who ran over a woman and beat a woman to death but women still thought he was hot was Wade Wilson. I was too lazy to look it up at the time. It's not really anything to be upset about. A few downvotes is light. But I think the problem is that there is a lot of policing in worry that condoning a type of hate over another hate is bad. Which is fair but I still would rather just be blamed for harassment than have little children be preyed on. …
/r/MensRights26/03/25 04:36 PM
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I completely understand. At the end of the day, my dad told me the doctors said it would be more hygenic to do, so it probably felt implied as the better choice. It really never occured to me growing up that it could be an issue until hearing a few women prattle on about uncircumcized being their preference. It felt like hearing the people who prefer star signs over others. It shouldn't happen if it doesn't need to. And we're definitely in a functioning society where getting clean shouldn't be t…
/r/MensRights22/03/25 03:44 PM
1

I think we're saying the same thing. Yours is just worded in agency while mine is worded in a way where you didn't think it matters until it somehow does, and now you hate yourself for something you have no control over. I've seen women prefererence both. And it's not really anything you have control over. You can either blame yourself for it or shrug it off.
/r/MensRights22/03/25 03:46 AM
2

It's not really going to be easy to do anything if the way men are globally seen is as an asset or tool. Women can love or lust after men who satisfy none of those rules because he's a "tool". Men who are not tools of attraction are otherwise useful or invisible. Point is. You're not going to get respect from these people because you're just an object, a gray face that fills the scene, or a drone that fills the queen. If you're not the latter, you're just ammo. A paypig for OnlyFans, some potent…
/r/MensRights21/03/25 05:03 PM
8

"I hope she sees this, bro." The above is why it likely happens. Like seeing all your teammates jump all over everything because the coach said the varsity scouts are in the bleachers. Some men are always worried women could be watching and will overcorrect themselves to appear in control and helping women by beating men into shape. At the end of the day, most men are just signal noise for free and won't see any of the rewards. But almost any competition benefits off of People's desire to win. A…
/r/MensRights20/03/25 03:04 PM
1

I think Jesus would be the ultimate pit stop in the same way he is now. People visit him to dump their mistakes, frequent places of worship only when they're in rough times, or about to expire. People go there with righteous pretences, though some really are only seeking people who believe in the scriptures enough to be controlled or manipulated by pieces of it. "A God fearing man" is already saying more than it needs to. Not someone who practices that religion, someone who FEARS it.
/r/MensRights20/03/25 01:45 PM
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I think this is the toxic masculinity women don't care about men having. The whole idea that men just want it all the time is probably vicariously being used by those men who were starved of attention in school and that's why they're saying it. Think of what the rapist said in the other article. Something along the lines of "this wouldn't have happened if I was still fat" I know sure as shit if she was a balloon those horndogs wouldn't be cheering on those kids and shaming them for not wanting i…
/r/MensRights20/03/25 06:39 AM
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Women are basically allowed to hit men. Fights I've seen between men and women usually only seem to get intervention when men appear ready to take action. Women are allowed to be emotionally unstable because they're also allowed to be violent. We know that emotional outbursts and lack of discipline can lead to worse, but we only care if that outcome comes from one side despite the same being true for both. When women are aggressive, we assume something went wrong and we stay out of it. When men …
/r/MensRights20/03/25 06:25 AM
3

I would thank them but I'd also know they don't know me well enough. I'm not really fond of things that die too soon. And I'm horrible with plants... I also keep every gift I'm given. And it's always going to feel a little bit odd having a dead flower remind me of the time I killed my friend's tree bud by putting too much water in the dirt. Even now I feel like it could have been better off if I just did nothing... Still, making sure people don't feel bad for doing something nice is what needs t…
/r/MensRights20/03/25 06:18 AM
1

Just fixing double standards, fixing what determines what rape is worldwide. And just basic things that can't be claimed as anti women. It'll just be the entire term full of people telling on themselves about how bad that person is despite the fact they're just making things fair...
/r/MensRights19/03/25 06:59 PM
2

Not at all. At that point unfaithful women would probably worry about the test in the same way I used to about my report card and progress reports growing up. Impending doom!
/r/MensRights19/03/25 06:55 PM
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It's an emotional roller coaster isn't it? Feels like you're friends with a racist and they say hateful things and they occasionally remember to look at you and say, "No not you! You're one of the good ones!" The main issue with it is that it's such widely acceptable behavior that you can't even tell the difference between them just being hateful people and just being careless... When gay became a word we were more aware was hurtful we had to make sure all of our friends understood that we never…
/r/MensRights19/03/25 06:43 PM
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I feel like it's basically harmful to people who aren't secure. It's like meeting someone who likes you but is completely turned away by your horoscope, personality type, race, or something else you can't change. It makes you hate yourself for something you can't control. You like them cut? You're not cut... Welp. You like em uncut? You're cut... Can't change the past. It's such a weird thing to build on and should be spoken against, but when it isn't your preferences, preferences are completely…
/r/MensRights19/03/25 06:31 PM
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The trans community has the same stigma. I'm talking men who indentify as women. But returning to the point. Masculinity is such a fragile and easily manipulated idea that people go through everything not to have it be challenged. If you have a gay friend you might be seen as gay, if you have a trans friend, you might be seen as gay. Guys police themselves but women do it too. Basically any little reason not to be approached will be considered and I think men know that and are unfair to marginal…
/r/MensRights19/03/25 06:25 PM
1

Rape is rape. However I see it the same as murder. Murdering someone because of an outburst and murdering someone because you wanted them dead are very two different things. I said physically by men to specify the action of an urge rather than a plan. It still creates the same type of victim, just the same as murder creates death. But it takes a different type of person to do it. I just feel like one is worse than the other.
/r/MensRights19/03/25 06:14 PM
1

You think that, but if the plethora of people who are encouraged to quote tweet you rather than reply isn't clear enough... The focus of discussion and placement of conversation has absolutely no benefit to people to contribute to it. If your post gets conversation, the attention is on you. Content creators have the same issue, which is why people have a bone to pick with react streamers and content creators. They hijack your conversation, have it their way, and by the time it comes back to you …
/r/MensRights18/03/25 03:06 PM
1

I'll ask you something strange... If you can't go outside, are people telling you about what you've already done inside going to make you want to stay? The people hating men are not here. They're out there, outside. The people men want aren't here, they're out there, outside. The people men need to communicate with are not here, they're out there, outside. We need to pave the way for discussion. But no platforms exist for a full visibility discussion anymore. Twitter has a character limit unless…
/r/MensRights18/03/25 12:37 PM
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You're either with us or against us... That's basically the feminist braincell. Copy or you're a Nazi.
/r/MensRights18/03/25 11:36 AM
1

I mean, the easiest way to get over falling down the first time is to fall down again... It sounds dumb as hell but it's true. Unfortunately women kind of have a "come as you are" sort of requirement in the social world. A woman, sad, happy, grumpy, etc is still fair game to men. "Who hurt you?" Isn't a jab at a woman when it's not coming as a retort from men, it's a genuine question. Self improvement in women I find is after someone else is shot down for telling her the truth. I knew this girl …
/r/MensRights18/03/25 11:20 AM
2

I think the struggle is something that shouldn't be forgotten. For example, men typically harp on their own height because they can't fix that reasonably on their own. They hate their own face, hair body, privates. I feel like the people who feel like that and live in a setting where if you look the part you can play the part, meanwhile the technicians who are actually pulling the strings are disregarded and disrespected. Those people are entrenched in attracting people. They're playing a game e…
/r/MensRights18/03/25 10:52 AM
1

I think a lot of it is ruined by specificity. Social media and algorithms are about following a specific person or idea. And the noise that comes with following those people or ideas is the noise that in introduced. If you follow a specific topic, you're given a better experience, but only because that fold of the internet is hidden. Old school forums had everything right. You had your main topics, your sub topics, and your off topic. Everything you want is or could be elected to be where you as…
/r/MensRights18/03/25 10:23 AM
1

Because if you gave a mouse cheese it won't have to chase it. Men hating women costs more than women hating men. Men hating women means no simping, no flowers, chocolates, jewelery, no huge twitch donations, Onlyfans crap, less people clicking on thirst traps, less diner spending, less real estate buying, luxury purchases, less working, and a lot less things being bought that men do to get women. Women hating men is maybe less birth control, less razors being sold, maybe perfume. More hair dye s…
/r/MensRights18/03/25 10:06 AM
2

I think the biggest issue is that the internet is a long line cast and by the time we appreciated that line it was paywalled. Playing online free with the homes, using ebuddy messenger to instant message anyone with an email, house visits, etc was all phased out when we could all stay up in our own homes and hang out until bedtime. We're either thick as thieves and chill in discord together, or we're playing in silence because we're out of the loop. To get in the loop, is to leave other people o…
/r/MensRights18/03/25 09:41 AM
1

I don't have any children... But if I did, smartwatch, family plan tracking, and a bunch of alerts. If my child is out of the expected area during or after school hours I'm making a visit. Nobody cares about boys, apparently male kids either. It's not an incredible inconvenience to me to have a small window open on my phone or Chromebook of where my child is. And having my children able to punch into their phone like buzz lightyear to talk to me is more than okay.
/r/MensRights18/03/25 09:28 AM
5

By the nine divines... Assault! Assault!... It's rape... Because of the way the article is written, it feels like people are expected to grow weary of reading all the indecent exposure in the front area, see the garbage doesn't depict rape, and then leave with different thoughts than they need to. It's like these people are slapping everyone's hands away from the Ouija Board if they see woman + rape in the same reading. It's a conclusion they want absolutely no one to come to. Sexual assault is …
/r/MensRights18/03/25 09:18 AM
2

The old twitch screenshot of "I hate men" being okay, and "I hate women" being against TOS is why. It's easy to do it if it's okay. Think of when Facebook said it was okay to wish death on Russians. People found enough hate to join the club and get a little bit of positive reinforcement so they can feel real and accepted in social media land. Hating men and wishing death on them is some of the most blindly hearted shit on social media. If you feel like nobody sees you, make up some big bad man s…
/r/MensRights18/03/25 08:50 AM
1

Reminds me of some police authorities. They went there so they can be deferred to and control a narrative they set in their minds. Whether it be real or not... She's not there to help, she's there to help her own. I probably can say the same of women teachers, activists, and a bunch of other selective authorities in society.
/r/MensRights18/03/25 08:42 AM
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The "male gaze" needs to accompany that statement. I agree completely though. At the end of the day, that was created to tackle that. When I was younger, the phrase "passive aggressive" was used to define every boy who liked girls but wouldn't pursue them to the point of ruining friendships. Oh you want to be my friend but not my boyfriend? You're either not interested, or passive aggressive. With crap like fansly, Onlyfans, and YouTube filled with softcore bait, women "male rights" YouTubers wh…
/r/MensRights18/03/25 08:33 AM
4

Gotta love when people who shouldn't be mothers in the first place get enabled by the government to produce children...
/r/MensRights18/03/25 08:04 AM
7

It's always weird how seeing an entire penis or dildo is the equivalent to... Female crotch. I'm not saying I need to see it. But it always feels like guys show the whole bit, and girls give you the Barbie doll angle lol. There are exceptions where they do show more, typically not on mainstream media.
/r/MensRights18/03/25 07:47 AM
1

She's right about some things but for the wrong reason. Men not married live lesser lives because most are okay rotting in a cave if they can eat sleep have fun and occasionally have sex. If they're thirsty they're living lesser lives because they're investing more in women than themselves. If you knew the only way to keep your dog from running around outside was to buy something nicer inside, wouldn't you just buy the nice thing instead of chase it around outside until it goes back? That's esse…
/r/MensRights18/03/25 07:30 AM
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I feel like it is too. Makes me wonder if that is why a lot of women suffer lighter sentencing. Because if the language dictates that crime is more about force than intent, and if women have less force than it should be less of a crime even though the same intent was the goal, then it's basically free real estate for women to act like miscreants. I'm sure you can probably find a bunch of gas over at ask feminists if you want to see how much heat will boil your blood. I'd rather just not know unt…
/r/MensRights18/03/25 07:20 AM
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Depravity... Jealousy too. Men aren't wanted, so men getting raped is sometimes seen from guys as. "Wow, she wanted you so bad she took you!" Not realizing the disrespect and disregard for your own personal agency that women feel and understand immediately. I feel another problem is a lack of proper resources. If a bum tells another bum he doesn't have money... What can either if them do? I also feel like men are raised to see it in a jealous way. "Look at this guy complaining that a woman wante…
/r/MensRights18/03/25 07:10 AM
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This is why female aggresseor rape charges need to be called rape. Look at the stupid word switch done when talking about juvenile officers raping boys. The fact they can boldly call it sex releases the stigma from the act because if it read outside of direct context it can be misunderstood as legally consentual . A reason males high five each other about boys having sex with teachers in school isn't because they are proud some adult lady did illegal crap with them, It's mostly because they got …
/r/MensRights18/03/25 06:37 AM
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It's rape. I swear to god I hate how everyone has to play the word game when talking about this. And it looks like it's the same "people more likely to rape you actually know you" applies here Social authority is playing a huge role too so coercion is by someone clearly with more social authority than you. Calling the cops knowing they'll believe you is a menacing premeditated thought weaponized since childhood. She's had her entire life to isolate and understand how much power she has with the …
/r/MensRights18/03/25 06:23 AM
1

It's amazing how much better boys do if you let them fidget about and get distracted if they get bored, not punished for reading ahead in their strong fields, or getting put on ADD meds because they're screwing off. I'm so happy my parents didn't give me ADD meds. I was a fidget kid who waved his arms about and lost interest when he wasn't called on.
/r/MensRights18/03/25 06:15 AM
1

I think the invisible wall here is desire. Men are raised to do things for women because they're supposed to. Getting a woman is like getting a varsity letter at school. Even other women see it as a success and a sign you can be trusted because some other woman in one way or another marked you safe. Women do have more crap to deal with. They need bras, pads/tampons, society will insist they wear makeup, if they don't, the difference in results they get socially will insist they wear makeup and g…
/r/MensRights18/03/25 06:11 AM
1

I feel like if men who's lives were affected by these things could get reparations for those crimes that it'll get more people willing to crack down on this. Awarding people potential loss by defamation due to accusation will empty the pockets of everyone who supports behavior like this. Being painted a bad person saps the soul from people and unfortunately because of gender expectations and disposition, men get far less to no concern to being painted as something they're not. Even by people who…
/r/MensRights18/03/25 05:50 AM
2

I don't complain much. Because nobody has an answer for my problems and we live in a world that prefers medication to cures. Giving someone more money to continue being reckless is more preferred than financial advice. Telling someone they'll be okay dating an abusive boyfriend is preferred to telling her to dump him and date someone else. Telling someone they're a 10/10 and to go slay is preferred to telling them to go date someone who makes them feel that way so they'd stop having to ask. You …
/r/MensRights08/03/25 05:31 AM
1

Should we wait for all the people to come in saying she was not in her right mind killing her child but somehow she's innocent? It's always funny how meaningless life is when someone else ends it. Whether it be a pharmaceutical company, mothers, world leaders, police officers, etc. It never makes sense to me.
/r/MensRights08/03/25 05:24 AM
1

Sometimes people miss the fact that if there were enough women in the replies to at least combat the likes, the opinion wouldn't stand as tall as it does. Posts like this should be "ratioed" to death. But they're not. And even the what aboutism deters from The point because It's trying to redirect the anger to something else. The people who are sad seeing these comments on their wall need to see something detering those emotions right there, not somewhere else. There is never going to be enough …
/r/MensRights08/03/25 05:19 AM
2

Evolution is built on survival, and survival has been continued by manufactured ways of creating struggle so that people continue to outdo themselves in order to have what nature has always provided us for the sake of survival: each other. Making men struggle to get the exact same thing we've gotten for thousands of years has been extrapolated. If everyone was happy with each other we'd still be living in straw huts gathering by the fire. Unfortunately, attacking women really doesn't do anything…
/r/MensRights08/03/25 05:09 AM
1

It's kind of hard to run a line like that when there was a guy who ran over 2 women being lusted after and a guy convicted of car theft and possessing a firearm being considerer a model citizen... And that's me ignoring all those hot guy catfish dating app stories where the guy would be absolutely vile in his summary but still get attention and contact. Misandry is absolutely selective and misogyny is most likely depravaty and jealousy fueled by attraction. Men don't hate women because they hate…
/r/MensRights08/03/25 04:54 AM
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The wall for men was childhood. Watching as your time had no value and your love had no value because you had no money. Your love and effort was the wind at their back. A blessing of words they'll recall on when the people they have eyes for shut them down. That guy doesn't love me, but people do. A bunch of boys lining up to give girls who never cared about them a mother's love, so they can tackle the world with absolutely no abandon. I think a reason for a lot of men's attraction being stunted…
/r/MensRights08/03/25 04:29 AM
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I think the "white" part is just the first step to divide and conquer. I get racists to start a sexist trend sexists are already on board with, get rid of them. Now we go after the illegals and turn a blind eye to the racial crossfire, now There's a bunch of people angry at men for various reasons. Let's attack reproductive rights for no reason. Women mad at all men. And men who are upset about that now want things they never even cared about because it's in their face and it spites the women wh…
/r/MensRights08/03/25 04:19 AM
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Sometimes knowing you're not the only one is help enough. A men group that isn't banned or assumed to be hateful or sexist. Kind of like a waiting room until things get better or until people understand that not every frustrated or disgruntled man has an axe to grind against women's groups who are practically encouraged to keep carelessly manifesting perfection from men they probably don't even like.
/r/MensRights27/02/25 11:56 AM
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Peer pressure probably. Guys know nobody is going to listen to a word they say if they have anything bad to invalidate true statements. Women are looking for comrades, if everyone hates men, the same men they hate are forced to pick among people just like them. If men hate themselves, they're easier to manipulate and make feel guilty. I always wish I knew the source, because when people hurt me the first thing that hits my isn't to scurry along and try to spread it around so I'm not the only one…
/r/MensRights27/02/25 11:50 AM
2

It's not easy to talk about... At least for me. As far as labor is concerned it feels worse. When the lineup of Tasks remains unequally distributed because women are doing the intricacies and men are doing the labor, it never adds up. I usually make the point to my peers that the jobs men used to share after doing the more exhausting work has become women's jobs. Cleanup, applying stickers, registering the contents of the package to the sticker, wrapping pallettes, moving them to the proper plac…
/r/MensRights17/02/25 09:09 PM
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I think there's a lot of "let me do it to him before he does it to me" in relationships like that. My most compatible relationship was with someone who didn't want to be any of the things that made me talk to her in the first place. But like you, I wanted that high school sweetheart and it was my last year in school so I pulled the trigger. But she didn't like who I was, just what I could be. Like I was just a bunch of vouchers that needed to be cashed in before they expired and become worthless…
/r/MensRights17/02/25 08:55 PM
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For me I don't really see it as negative. It's kind of like how things feel less shitty when you see someone else had it happen too. My life sucks feels worse than life sucks. It still sucks, but it doesn't feel as selective as it used to, you know? Obviously you don't want anyone to go through it, but knowing it's not just a YOU thing provides more relief than I'll ever be able to properly explain.
/r/MensRights17/02/25 08:29 PM
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Jeez, that's a stab. I guess it's just customary to hate yourself.
/r/MensRights16/02/25 11:22 PM
1

I was about to bring up teaching and even babysitting but you hit the first in the first line. My most memorable experiences in school were with male teachers, no not all of them were good, but the amount of good guy teacher experiences were only touched by the woman teachers I had in inner city elementary surroundings. There were a few good woman authority figures in my school though, I'd feel bad not putting that out there. It just isn't remotely close to the average of male teachers that real…
/r/MensRights16/02/25 10:50 PM
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Everything she said she hates about men is what men do to please women... It's even in animals. Penguins trying to have the better dig in, peacocks trying to flaunt their feathers, bugs trying to extend their limbs... There's so much stuff that would probably be completely useless in the grand scheme of things that animals do just to pass their genes on. Why would we be any different? Make more money than we know what to do with, fancy cars that cost a bunch and still break, worse than the cheap…
/r/MensRights16/02/25 10:39 PM
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Did they beat twitch? I know twitch had a phase where you can say you hate men but not women... Feels weird when the "China App" everyone hates but wants to buy does better than them... Smh.
/r/MensRights16/02/25 03:09 AM
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So... Everyone else can have circus sized glow dicks but dudes can't squeeze out the toothpaste? I swear, it's like they unabashedly know the productivity of men when they have too much energy, but instead of saying we want more work out of you for free, they tell you every month is NN-November and we will take a 10th your weight in silver if we catch you squeezing toothpaste for no productive reason.
/r/MensRights16/02/25 02:50 AM
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Yeah it tips scales. Lower bars for women higher for men. Sex work is real work, etc is easily things to normalize debauchery and if more people are encouraged to do it, less women not doing it will be around, making it more normal, and putting those new women in the same situation to fight the same battle. And all the men looking for someone will have to lower the bar if all the women they look at, or even liked, say it's something they do. So if they mess up your favorite thing, you'll have to…
/r/MensRights16/02/25 02:34 AM
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There's a knuckles quote from Sonic boom where he points at the fact that women shouldn't need to remind people of the differentiation between men and women if their achievements are not an Outlier but in fact status quo. It's a random jaw dropper in a kid's cartoon... But the point stands. But honestly it feels like women are still awed by this newfound discovery that they can be strong and skilled and don't need to be kitchen bound keeping every Jared Fogle from going outside more than they ne…
/r/MensRights16/02/25 02:22 AM
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It's not really a secret... Body positivity, body count, promiscuity, adult workers, single moms and etc are basically all in a journey to be "decriminalized" to society. Now, that's not to pretend like any of it is outright bad because how are you supposed to look at any of it if it never exists? But the issue is just as you outlined, it's one way. The whole "Men cannot be the victims since they are physically stronger " thing... Reminds me of growing up and hearing the whole. "But you're twice…
/r/MensRights16/02/25 02:13 AM
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A woman doesn't want to look desperate, so she'll just stare at you awkwardly from far away until you notice, or find excuses to get close to you but not say anything... I think the biggest issue is that a lot of the games women like to play don't really work if you know she likes you. All that weird don't text first, wait a few days first, and all this other stupid shit that is childish and immature as hell. So instead of doing that, they just flop around in front of your cooler like a Fish out…
/r/MensRights15/02/25 11:49 PM
1

Men not getting love or respect makes them shoulder the world. Unfortunately hating men is something every group around will in some way shape or form tell them to be better for society. Looksmax, get money, be smarter, buy cooler things, work on yourself, be approachable, charismatic, etc. Most things men do to make themselves better, helps everyone around them, not just them. They don't tell men to manifest and gather around and basically summon a better man by hexing every man they don't like…
/r/MensRights15/02/25 10:10 AM
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The issue in my opinion is investment. In the past, something like a dowry would be given to show the other side that the investment into a relationship went both ways. Both parties wanted and showed that they were interested in the success of the relationship. Marriage and all the courtship now is one sided. Are you going to expect someone to respect your things if they get to play for free? If I didn't 1,000,000 percent like you and I could play for free I could literally lead you on, treat yo…
/r/MensRights15/02/25 09:58 AM
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I think the women doing it are vile especially the ones who are married or in relationships... It feels like they're literally making sport of "cherry-picking" boys and it reminds me of how much trouble it was keeping a relationship when women would ask me if I was a virgin and I said yes. The first time I decided to not say anything was the last time I needed to not say anything... Which is stupid. Some of those women cherry picking probably feel like they're doing those boys a favor because of…
/r/MensRights15/02/25 09:39 AM
2

Most of romance mostly reminds me of childhood. My parents couldn't stop braying on about how much more I'd respect something if I bought it myself vs if it was given to me. It just makes me wonder how Selective you have to be as a human being to not apply that statement relatively. The person who wants it more hurts more. Plain. The girl who wants the super hot dude and snuck out to a party or had him drive her there from school is going to miss that more than some random guy who kissed her fee…
/r/MensRights15/02/25 09:04 AM
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Imagine how miserable it must be to only be able to get in if you've either got friends, are the third wheel, or the odd man out. Feels like if bars said single men can only get in if they're the designated driver. You cannot be here for your own entertainment.
/r/MensRights15/02/25 08:38 AM
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Sometimes I think it's grounded in economics. If a dude gets rejected, there's probably so much to unpack and do. So that by the time he's more appealing, he's bought a few gym memberships, took a few extra jobs, is working overtime, learning a trade, buying name brand clothes, cologne, regularly grooming himself (haircut, shaving) paying image consultants, going to clubs bars etc. And that's all BEFORE he's gotten a date. Making men feel alone and telling them to deal with it, but not with esca…
/r/MensRights15/02/25 08:32 AM
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There was a story of some high CEO at some car company doing something like this and they said the same type of thing. I was floored.
/r/MensRights15/02/25 08:06 AM
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