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| 2 | CMV: In a ways, i kinda understand why women are the way they are. Giving women all sexual power at an early age is akin to giving a child a billion dollars.Literally men's bodies are better in every single way. Every single one. Strength is a big one, yes, but it's not the only one. Men don't get periods, they don't have to invest in reproduction beyond sex, they require less sleep, they don't need to rest as much. The most talented and intelligent people will always be men. Masculine qualities build civilizations and advance humanities. Feminine qualities are sexy and cute so men/society will protect them and that's basically all they're good for.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/15 07:34 PM |
| 0 | CMV: In a ways, i kinda understand why women are the way they are. Giving women all sexual power at an early age is akin to giving a child a billion dollars.Have you been both a male and a female? Because I sure haven't, so it seems pointless to turn who has it better into a pissing contest. There are men out there who think women have all the advantages. Conversely, there are women out there who think men have all the advantages. Seems like there are advantages and disadvantages to both. But, I'll throw out a big disadvantage at being female: physically, it fucking sucks. Compared to the male body, the female body (and you know what? the female min… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/15 04:44 AM |
| 1 | CMV: In a ways, i kinda understand why women are the way they are. Giving women all sexual power at an early age is akin to giving a child a billion dollars.Yeah, I'm feeling the same way. And I mostly agree with a lot of red pill ideas, I'm just getting tired of arguing with people who think that women have no problems that aren't self-imposed and have all been treated like spoiled little princesses. And yes, I think 'all men are rapists' and shit like that is stupid, too. It's not ~triggering~ or anything like that, it's just condescending, insulting, and there's no point in arguing it because it's just going to come down to one person's experienc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/15 01:17 PM |
| 1 | "["I don't think women are conscious. I don't think they have same consciousness that men do."It just so happens when you're interested in objects you can create cars, trains, planes, rockets, and so on. When you're interested in people, there's not much. Yup, that's true. But humans are social creatures for a reason, and that doesn't make an interest in people worthless. Relationships and relationship-focused people add to the world in a different way. The emotional layer of humanity is important, too; not just the productive one. They work together to create a better human experience. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/15 01:07 PM |
| 9 | "["I don't think women are conscious. I don't think they have same consciousness that men do."I think she's reduced women to vapid materialists and completely ignored the thing that a vast majority of women are most interested in: relationships and people. Why is women's unwillingness to live alone in the woods being explained as them being too greedy for pretty baubles and modern conveniences instead of the obvious answer that they don't like being without OTHER PEOPLE? Why are children lumped in the same category as "things"? I think women are conscious, it's just that they tend to be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/15 04:28 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Every woman despises weak low status heterosexual men. Even Bluepill women. Even feminist women.I think a lot of FA type guys also have a lot of unfortunate social anxiety (and anxiety in general, perhaps depression). I've looked at some ForeverAlone post-your-pic threads and there are a decent amount of guys I'd rate average or even above. Unfortunately women can be absolutely socially inept and still get approached, with guys no one might talk to them at all. It's easy to feel worthless in that case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/15 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Are insecure women better than secure women?No. Non-confrontational and submissive? Sure. You can be confident/secure and have both those traits, and none of what you describe is insecurity. Insecurity is needing constant validation. It's being unable to take a compliment because you think the other person is lying to spare your feelings. Insecurity is getting anxious if he doesn't text back within five minutes. Insecure women are more likely to be guarded than warm and caring. AND I think that honestly, while they may not be dominant, in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/15 11:53 PM |
| 2 | Do you think financial abortion is a realistic solution?Yep. Women also have points in their cycle when they aren't fertile. Men don't. I imagine simulating a phase of the cycle that already exists is easier to do with less drastic side effects. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/15 03:54 AM |
| 2 | How do blue pillers address the contradiction between feminists and the transgender movement on gender being a social construct?The two beliefs you describe are held by two very often opposed groups of feminists. The group that believes gender is completely a social construct is often opposed to the existence of transgender people, seeing them either as traitors or predators invading women's spaces. These types of feminists are usually called gender critical, gender abolitionist, or TERFs. The second group believes that gender is real but is not tied to your genitalia or biological makeup. Therefore, you can identify as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/15 07:44 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Every woman despises weak low status heterosexual men. Even Bluepill women. Even feminist women.Not attracted to does not equal despise. Women don't inherently despise low SMV men: they are for the most part indifferent to them, or they can see them as friends/brothers/good teachers/talented people/etc - all positive things BUT non-sexual. Just like you feel lack of attraction but not necessarily revulsion to low SMV women, women do not secretly stew with contempt and disgust for low SMV men. They're just...not attractive. Most women hate to have a low SMV man flirt with them, because that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/15 06:36 PM |
| 11 | Do you think financial abortion is a realistic solution?Male birth control is the best idea (and honestly I don't believe there's some big feminist conspiracy to keep it from happening, either. I think it'll be coming soon). As far as financial abortion goes...it's a good option for the individual, but it depends on how you feel about taxpayers picking up the burden. Like it or not, that's what'll happen. I know a lot of people love to crow about personal responsibility, but the truth is, no first world country is going to let children (who did not c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/15 06:17 PM |
| 11 | Should women get to choose who to marry or should it be decided by the fathers like in traditional patriarchy ?This genuinely seems like a better idea. If your parents really don't approve of someone there's probably a reason why, and in most regular families that reason isn't some ancient family feud or your brain surgeon father's prejudice against lowly heart surgeons or something silly like that. It also gives women an easy way to find marriage minded men and weed out the guys who just want to have a friends-with-benefits type relationship but never commit. He is now accountable to her family and comm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/15 05:19 PM |
| 2 | Western men are forgetting how much they suck, tooAh, true enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/15 11:36 PM |
| 6 | Western men are forgetting how much they suck, tooI'm pretty sure OP is a woman, not a dude with a female friend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/15 12:54 PM |
| 5 | Would you rather be reborn a woman or a man in the USA in 2015 (from a Rawlsian veil of ignorance)Anyone who says they want to be born the opposite gender and doesn't have some form of gender dysphoria is lying. Nah, a lot of people just aren't very attached to their gender and would prefer to have the opposite sex's social expectations. Of course, that may be a "the grass is greener on the other side" issue, because they don't actually know what it's like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/15 12:53 PM |
| 7 | Would you rather be reborn a woman or a man in the USA in 2015 (from a Rawlsian veil of ignorance)Male. If you truly rock at life, you can have it better than basically any woman. Of course, if you don't rock at life, you'll probably have it worse, but I'd rather go for the gold (men) than get a participation ribbon just for being born (women). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/15 12:50 PM |
| 1 | If women want respect, we have to be men.They don't have to be, if you play it smart. The problem is a lot of women somehow get the idea that a career in middle management HR pushing paper 40 hours a week is going to bring them fulfillment. A career is not a magical fulfillment wagon and plenty of people achieve their dreams completely separate from their careers. Luckily for me and my much-maligned degree, though, my passion is something I can freelance from home and pretty much do any time, any where. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/15 02:44 AM |
| 1 | If women want respect, we have to be men.I've said in this very conversation that getting married WAS important to me. Having kids is important to me. Achievement is also important to me. It's not an either/or thing. All of those things can be important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/15 02:26 AM |
| 3 | CMV "bloodlines" are not important in Western society in 2015Interesting explanation! I have to wonder, though, why having at least one daughter has never been seen as just as important. If you're nobility (or whatever was really really high status in your society), yeah, your sons shall go forth and multiply. If you're not...well, girls were a near guarantee of offspring. Boys, not so much. You could have 5 boys, and it wouldn't be unheard of for NONE to reproduce. They could get killed young at war, or be unable to find a mate, or find a mate and be cuc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/15 01:25 AM |
| 1 | The Machiavellian PersonalityI beleive that almost everyone puts themselves first, except with a very small circle of people, with whom they put themselves equal, and a tiny circle that they put above themselves. Agreed. And I'd describe this as a decently unselfish person. I'd consider a selfish person to be one who puts absolutely no one on even an equal level of importance to themselves, ex: someone who has friends only to use them, pushes their kids into child beauty pageants to fulfill their own dreams of stardom, etc.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/15 04:29 AM |
| 3 | If women want respect, we have to be men.I sure as hell wouldn't. I'm not a strong independent womyn type, and finding a good relationship is important to me, but I won't feel fulfilled without some accomplishments to my name. I know a lot of women who feel the same way so this isn't a single "NAWALT" case here. MOST women I've met feel the same, actually, aside from a few outliers who are either completely ambitionless or absolutely don't want a relationship. They'd be happier with the right man, but our world is becoming more and mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/15 01:16 AM |
| 7 | If women want respect, we have to be men.I ever understood this. Yes women want to be WITH winners. That doesn't mean they don't want to BE winners. The sheer amount of young women who desperately seek a way to be "not like those OTHER girls" and label themselves with special snowflake pronouns should prove enough that women aren't content with utter mediocrity. A lot of them just don't have the ambition so solve their discontent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/15 01:10 PM |
| 5 | Are there self improvement groups aimed at females? If not, why not?Because getting as much male attention as possible isn't usually a woman's goal, it's getting commitment from the best quality man she can possibly get. In which case, self-improvement is very useful. Most young thin women are pretty. Self-improvement and LTR skills are how they set themselves apart from every other young, thin, pretty woman out there. Jane and Betty are both 8s based on looks alone. Betty makes special effort to cook her SO's favorite meals, say yes when he initiates sex, not c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/15 07:05 PM |
| 2 | Regarding logic, rationality, human attraction, and the Big LieYeah I meant the playful asshole stuff - teasing, negging, etc. There's a lot of genuine asshole shit that also isn't abusive too (assholes often climb the corporate ladder more quickly and make more money, for example, but that doesn't mean they abuse their partners). To put it another way, if you were 100% secure that he was never going to leave your side, you'd wonder whether he was really as attractive as you thought. Thus the 'spark' dies, eyes wander and what happens next is history... Bef… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/15 05:51 PM |
| 2 | Regarding logic, rationality, human attraction, and the Big LieYep, that's the basics of the situation. That doesn't mean they're bad people, just that plenty of good qualities have absolutely nothing to do with being attractive. "Nice guy" is to unattractive men as "good personality" is to unattractive women. Both may be true, but they don't make you more attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/15 05:47 PM |
| 3 | Regarding logic, rationality, human attraction, and the Big LieHuh, interesting. I've never actually heard a guy say that before, most of them say having protective feelings increases sexual attraction. Thanks for the alternative perspective, though, I wonder if there's a sexual distinction between being a protector and being dominant/a leader or something like that... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/15 05:36 PM |
| -2 | Regarding logic, rationality, human attraction, and the Big LieI have seen a few TRP guys say that "asshole" IS a necessary quality and that an asshole will always be more attractive than a non-asshole with otherwise similar looks/status. That might not be totally true though? And I totally didn't mean abusive behavior, sorry if it came off that way, I am purple pill but I don't see TRP as abusive (nor is being an asshole inherently abusive). I suppose it's the "communicates high status and elicits feelings of insecurity and need for validation" stuff that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/15 05:34 PM |
| 7 | Regarding logic, rationality, human attraction, and the Big LieBecause the traits that women are subconsciously (irrationally) attracted to conflict with their conscious desires more than the traits men are subconsciously attracted to. Men are mostly visual. They are attracted to looks primarily, with kindness and pleasantness to be around and other feminine traits as a second. Being attracted to looks might be shallow, sure, but that's where it ends. The other personality traits are things most people agree make a person nice to be around. Now let's look a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/15 04:14 PM |
| 2 | CMV: the equivalent of a man raising another man's child is a woman having a relationship with a behaviorally immature man - except the second is worseOh yeah, absolutely. Poor and sometimes even middle class guys (especially if they have more than one child to support and/or used to have a higher income that the support amount is still based on) are most affected by that. The millionaire probably won't lose any attractiveness points for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/15 01:24 PM |
| 2 | CMV: the equivalent of a man raising another man's child is a woman having a relationship with a behaviorally immature man - except the second is worseI suppose it could also apply to a man who gives a significant portion of his income to child support for another woman's child? That likely wasn't his fault or choice, but I imagine most women would find it undesirable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/15 01:14 PM |
| 0 | Egghead got me thinking... about female woes vs. male woes.So why are you then denying them that by trivializing their issues? When did I trivialize their issues? Incels absolutely do have valid issues. I just said that women also have valid problems and assuming that any lonely women has rejected a bunch of men is trivializing THEIR issues. I'm not talking about literally invisible people. I'm talking about NEET-tier women who basically don't leave the house. The women you mentioned went to work and school, and the fat one was at least outgoing althoug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/15 01:08 PM |
| 3 | How would society change if regarded the AF/BB dynamic as grounded in truth?I imagine we'd go back to shaming pre-marital (or at least casual) sex. For men and women. Chad is, for the most part, shamed out of fucking Plain Jane when he has no desire to commit to her. Plain Jane is, for the most part, shamed out of giving Chad casual sex instead of choosing a man in her league willing to commit to her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/15 12:29 AM |
| 1 | Egghead got me thinking... about female woes vs. male woes.I didn't say anything about incel men. Yes, they deserve sympathy. And I didn't say women have it worse either. I agree that making it a competition is pointless, which is why the "but but women ALWAYS have it better" stuff annoys me. It's easier for women on average but that doesn't mean NO women are as lonely as incel men. No one can for sure say if one individual's experience is worse than another's, so it's pointless to try and say if lonely man 1 or lonely woman 1 has it worse. And yeah, ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/15 06:20 PM |
| 3 | Egghead got me thinking... about female woes vs. male woes.Plenty of men have compassion and sympathy for lonely women who have trouble finding a suitable partner. I mean, that's true, but despite the sympathy given at surface level it's almost always assumed that she doesn't have it THAT bad, which is also demeaning. When women say they can't find a partner, most guys seem to mentally fill in "...that I am attracted to". And they might be sympathetic. But they're also interpreting her problem as lesser. You can be sympathetic to a child dropping their … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/15 01:26 PM |
| 1 | Is being kinky in a relationship often a requirement these days and is it because of porn?I think most men - most people, really - would be happy with an enthusiastic partner who is willing to be playful and spontaneous. That doesn't have to mean kinky. For the record I don't consider a bit of spanking or positions other than missionary anything like that as "kink". Be involved and excited and I don't imagine most people would care if you didn't want to be explicitly kinky. Honestly, I've seen kinky stuff used as an attempt to revitalize a dead bedroom more than anything pushed on wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/15 06:51 PM |
| 6 | It's Not Your Imagination, Single Women: There Literally Aren't Enough Men Out There | VICE | United StatesI think willingness to "date down" will come with changing attitudes about college and what it's worth. Fact is, a lot of the things women major in just don't bring money in. They still cling to the idea that because they have college they need a college educated man, but men who do a two-year trade school often out-earn someone with a degree in Women's Studies or Art History. Hell, tech fields like programming are becoming increasingly self-taught. The current generation of young adults has bee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/15 01:26 PM |
| 15 | Gender & Online HarassmentHere's my theory. I think the perception that women are harassed more online comes from specifically looking at gender-based insults and harassment. It's true: women are more likely to have attention called to their gender and be insulted based specifically on their gender, as opposed to insulting their playing skill or other gender neutral traits. A lot of female gamers (especially competitive female gamers, and competitive gaming is where you're most likely to be insulted) and women who spend … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/15 03:59 AM |
| 1 | Are most women aware of or oblivious to the AF/BB strategy?Oblivious, because AF/BB is NOT an ideal sexual strategy. The ideal strategy is to find both Alpha and Beta qualities in the same man ("Alpha Bucks"). Ask any woman "hey, do you want to spend your younger years getting casual sex from a bunch of hot guys that will never commit to you and then settle down with some guy you're not really attracted to later so you have someone to provide for you" and I can pretty much guarantee they'd say no. And they wouldn't be lying to disguise their wily woman … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/15 01:19 PM |
| 10 | What are some positive traits you admire in the opposite gender?I think one of the reasons women are rejecting traditionally feminine characteristics is because we see how awesome men are and we want to be like them. Women really look up to men. This is certainly true for me. I can't for the life of me comprehend why men like women so much because from my POV women are just way more boring than men, lol (yeah yeah I know, sex, but aside from sex I mean a lot of men really seem to adore girly-girl women even if they complain that all their hobbies are boring)… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/15 01:39 AM |
| 15 | What are some positive traits you admire in the opposite gender?I admire almost everything about men, honestly. They're good at all the actually interesting stuff (I'm a super introvert who finds general socializing and other relationship-related stuff pretty boring) and pretty much built anything (please don't dig out your lists of the top 500 female contributions to history, people reading this, I said "pretty much everything" not "everything"). They get shit done, make decisions, and are totally cool doing stuff alone. The last time I had a large female s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/15 12:31 AM |
| 5 | Why are men these days obsessed with anal sex? Do they even like women?Are analgasms for women a thing? I thought men's analgasms came from the prostate... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/15 01:18 AM |
| 2 | CMV: All women are bisexual to a degreeMe too. It's not that I'm repulsed, though, I just find the female body really really boring. Gimmie a MAN. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/15 01:13 AM |
| 5 | women in denial, the bullshit of victimhoodWomen are very susceptible to shame. That's why, if you want to understand what women really want, you have to figure out how to watch what they do when no one is watching, when no one is judging. Yeah, I think this is the answer. Also consider how many people consider common submissive fantasies to be degrading, a mark of poor character, a sign of weakness, etc. Hell, people who say their husband is dominant in the relationship get told they're manipulated and abused all the time. Of course a l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/15 01:10 AM |
| 7 | How does RP reconcile George Clooney and his wife when they don't fit neatly into their RP theory?This exactly. Alas I can't find it right now but I read a study saying that a vast, vast majority of people still marry within their "class" (middle, upper, etc). Elites marry elites - most men of Clooney's standing wouldn't ask a cute, sweet, feminine young waitress out on a date even if she'd near-definitely say yes. That's not to say hypergamy isn't real, but it's the biggest problem by far for older or unattractive women whose incomes are at the upper range of middle-class. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/15 12:48 PM |
| 4 | Discuss: Is it "abuse" for a husband to run Dread; but not "abuse" for a wife to withhold sex?Yeah, I guess even getting in the mood won't work all the time even with an attractive guy. Honestly, I see huge misunderstandings of the female sex drive from a lot of the guys here. Fair enough, I don't understand the male sex drive, not a lick of it. But I think a lot of men just don't get that for a majority of women sex just isn't as high of a priority as it is for men. Not even close. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/15 01:11 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Toxic FemininityThe most toxic female behaviors in my opinion are: -Letting other people do things for you simply because you know they will -Refusing to self-improve simply because you don't HAVE to to get by in this world as a woman -Crying or playing weak/stupid or pouting and batting your eyes etc. in order to get guys to do things for you These three often appear together. Basically, taking the path that's least difficult (often at the expense of others) simply because you can. You've only got one life, do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/15 12:48 AM |
| 6 | Do any of you actually believe any of the Tumblr type stuff that keeps getting associated with TBP?The Tumblr attitude is mostly held by introverted low self-esteem teenage/young adult women desperately seeking acceptance or a self esteem boost from somewhere. Y'know how men on the internet are stereotyped as lonely nerds? Well, tumblr is where lonely nerds of the female variety go. The entire movement where there are 5000 genders to pick from is, for the most part, an attempt to feel special and unique in a world that's becoming increasingly globalized. Feeling special and unique among your … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/15 12:42 AM |
| 4 | Discuss: Is it "abuse" for a husband to run Dread; but not "abuse" for a wife to withhold sex?I disagree simply because of what I've seen on RPW. One thing RPW teaches is to always try and say yes when he initiates sex. I've seen several users there say that they used to say 'no' a lot simply because they weren't in the mood right now...and after making a conscious effort to always say 'yes', they found that they were almost always 'in the mood' after a few minutes no matter how they felt beforehand. Sex for women is absolutely a mental thing as well as physical thing. I think, if a woma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/15 12:27 AM |
| 9 | Do women ACTUALLY like men?I like men better than women in mostly everything. I definitely find men's bodies more aesthetically pleasing (women's bodies bore me) and lesbian porn is boring as fuck because I'm not into girls. This isn't just about me, either, MOST straight women I know feel the same...if they liked women more they'd be bi/lesbians. Maybe you just know a lot of secretly bi/lesbian women, ha. Or, honestly, maybe it's easier to notice the bad things women say about men than the good. I'm the same way: I hear … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/15 01:04 PM |
| 1 | Is the Red Pill really *that* bad?Honestly? I don't know. I don't know if all or most men want to be loved in one particular way, what that way is, and if women are capable of it. I'd just hope if I get married one day I'm what my future husband actually wants and not just what he's learned to accept. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/15 12:52 PM |
| 18 | Is the Red Pill really *that* bad?No it is not that bad. Do I LIKE that there are people out there who believe that the group I'm part of (women) are unloyal, illogical, at the whim of their emotions, etc? Do I like that there are people who think women are teenagers, and that women aren't capable of loving men the way they want? No. And I'd hope that any man I date wouldn't secretly harbor those opinions, because I'd be hurt if someone I loved thought those things about me. But are they actively hurting anything but feelings? N… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/15 02:18 AM |
| 2 | Q4BP: If women aren't hypergamous, why there aren't any female doctors dating male nurses, but opposite is quite common?Yes, women are generally hypergamous. What I don't get, though, is why that's generally seen as bad or worse than what men are attracted to (looks). Neither the contents of one's wallet nor the way one's flesh, meat, and bones work together have anything to do with one's personality or content of character, which are the supposed Good And Correct things to choose a mate for. No one loves your beautiful soul, AHALT. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/15 02:11 AM |
| 1 | Does PPD accept the basic principle of female Hypergamy?Yes. However, I don't think that they'll ALWAYS branch-swing even if they can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/15 11:16 PM |
| 7 | How are naturally disadvantaged people supposed to cope with the red pill?I assume OP meant that this hypothetical woman is ugly enough that men don't pursue her at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/15 10:13 PM |
| 1 | RP: If a woman says she thinks muscles are gross and only likes scrawny nerds, what do you think of her?I'd assume she meant she likes skinny men with handsome faces over buff men with ugly/average faces. Or that she was thinking of the outlier extreme bodybuilders and not an average fit man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/15 10:11 PM |
| 1 | You are not a first- or second-wave feminist, and your radicalism hurts the gender equality movementHonestly, that concept you speak of is exactly why I want gender equality. At the end of the day, a trophy that everyone gets is worthless. Women right now are essentially replaceable and interchangeable, and frankly I'd rather risk failure than be stuck in this homogenous woman group. You only get one life, it's a waste to just coast by because success is hard and risky. Unfortunately, the mindset you describe seems to be the most prevalent one, so I doubt things will change any time soon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/15 10:08 PM |
| 3 | If women are as sexual and rational as men, why can't you ask them for sex directly?Again if by chads you mean dudes they find hot then yep that is generally the case. (Is chad a general slang for a hot dude now? I generally see it referring to a specific type of buff frat-boy who picks up women at the bar, and that's certainly not the only type of attractive guy.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/15 04:43 PM |
| 8 | If women are as sexual and rational as men, why can't you ask them for sex directly?opiate_adventurer worded it simply and quite well, IMO: "women find a target and then want to have sex, while men want to have sex so they go find a target." Women don't generally crave sex the way that men do, from what I've seen. They tend to crave sex with certain people instead of just sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/15 04:36 PM |
| 7 | If women are as sexual and rational as men, why can't you ask them for sex directly?No, I said that women only want sex with a guy they are attracted to. Sometimes they will find many men attractive. But there needs to be someone attractive in the picture. EDIT: If 'chad' in this case is being used as a stand-in for 'an attractive man', I guess yeah women want chad, but I don't get why that's any surprise. People want to fuck attractive people. AHALT. Men are just more willing to fuck an unattractive person if the hottie isn't available, women will probably just not have sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/15 04:23 PM |
| 20 | If women are as sexual and rational as men, why can't you ask them for sex directly?Because a vast majority of women just aren't as sexual as men. Rationality has nothing to do with it. Women CAN be extremely sexual WITH A PERSON THEY ARE ATTRACTED TO but from what I've seen and from my own experience women just don't crave sex for the sake of sex absent of other factors like men do. When women crave sex it tends to be because there is a specific person they crave it with - men's affections don't need a specific target before they start craving it, finding the woman comes secon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/15 04:44 AM |
| 1 | A different interpretation of Alphas and BetasWouldn't the ideal base sexual nature be to settle down with an alpha and have his kids, though? I don't think many woman actually WANT or plan to settle with a guy they're not really attracted to, they just can't get commitment from the hot guys they sleep with (and may choose to keep sleeping with them as long as possible anyways). But that's not the ideal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/15 01:11 PM |
| 1 | QFTRP: Why are single mothers vilified on TRP for choosing the wrong mate, but divorce raped men aren't?Are single moms vilified for "choosing the wrong man"? I've seen a small handfull of people on TRP who seem to think that women - as the selective sex - possess this magical ability to see a man's true character and therefore a woman who, say, has a baby with a devoted guy who says he'll be there and then he gets cold feet and runs off, or marries a guy who does something awful ten years later, is at fault for not vetting him more closely. Men, on the other hand, only evolved to select for physi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/15 12:55 PM |
| 5 | Are women naturally misandristic?I don't think that men hate women, but I do think that men seem to...hate that they like women, if that makes sense? I've seen tons of men wish that they had no sex drive or were gay or whatever just so they wouldn't have to deal with women anymore. The narrative that men hate women is flawed - but so is the narrative that women are precious, beloved, cherished treasures, I think. The reality seems to be that women are generally inconvenient but the power of the male sex drive and protective ins… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 04:16 PM |
| 0 | Why are men less upset?All I said was that I wasn't the best person to talk about those particular platforms. I didn't deny that many women use them to get attention. Yes, it is a thing that happens. I think attention seeking is a negative quality. I think women generally tend to attention-seek more than men, and that's bad. There, happy? I don't think my tone in the original post was defensive, nor was a whopping two sentences about how I don't use three websites a "rant". Christ, some of you people take any sort of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/15 07:01 PM |
| 2 | [SuperBeta] Pills, what are the benefits of a Red Pill relationship?I didn't say anything about men's obligations. Good personalities are an asset for both men and women. A woman who is pulling her own weight in the relationship is, in my opinion, a good indicator that she will have a good personality as well as opposed to a woman that just wants to be pampered for existing and being sexy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/15 10:24 PM |
| 3 | [SuperBeta] Pills, what are the benefits of a Red Pill relationship?You're assuming the women in question bring nothing to the table but their looks and sex. Is that the case for some, even lots of women today? Yes. But it doesn't have to be. TRP is casual sex focused, so a lot of them don't care if that's all a woman brings to any given interaction, but the LTR focused ones make it pretty clear that you should 'next' women like that. Go lurk on RPW if you want to see what else a woman can bring to the relationship. A woman who is pulling her weight can, for exa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/15 09:40 PM |
| 2 | Why are men less upset?Honestly, I don't use Facebook, Tinder, or Instagram and I don't see the appeal of any of them. So I'm not the best person to comment on that particular phenomenon. And I dunno if a "you go girl" from a totally random stranger on the internet ever made anyone feel better about anything, anyways. In my experience, most people can't even take a genuine compliment from a friend let alone a random cliché phrase from a stranger. I'd say attention/validation seeking IS bad behavior, though. Just becau… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/15 06:43 PM |
| 3 | Why are men less upset?When little girls fall down and skin their knee, they run to Daddy and he brushes it off and kisses her cheek and tells her it's going to be all right. Nope, once you're above preschool age it's pretty much "it's not a big deal, stop crying about it" for girls too. At least, it was for me and my friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/15 06:00 PM |
| 1 | Women: You are living in year 1800 in the US. There are no rules or customs preventing women from working or voting. 95% of the human population still working in the agriculture sector. What job will you pursue? Describe your life?Teacher or nun. Unmarried. It'd be difficult - we underestimate how much technology does for us, I think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/15 05:46 PM |
| 1 | Is a woman misandrist if she only views men as sex objects?Where is this fantasy world in which women are never bullied or insulted or criticized and live like pampered princesses? It's not reality, that's for sure... I know it might look that way from the outside, but if you think young/teenage girls especially can't be fucking horrible to each other you're living in dreamland. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/15 04:24 PM |
| 16 | Ladies, who would you rather sleep with. Alpha Donald Trump or Feminist Niceguy Joseph Gordon Levitt?JGL, but in this situation it's "handsome high status man" vs "unattractive high status man". Both are in the top 0.1% in terms of status; at that point you can basically filter for hotness. The two candidates would need to be closer looks-wise for alpha/niceguy to make any difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/15 04:31 AM |
| 4 | What do you think about this red pill post about single mothers?All I do is hope for more effective male birth control soon. It is a really sad situation for the children involved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/15 04:23 AM |
| 3 | What's worst, infidelity or divorce?This is how I feel too. I'd be really, really, really, REALLY hurt if my hypothetical husband cheated on me, but the thought that this person I cared enough to marry wanted to leave me entirely hurts more. Honestly, I think a lot of people would be happier if divorce wasn't so easy. I can't find it right now, but there was an experiment done with two groups of people. Group A was given a gift. Group B was given a choice between two gifts. The people from Group A were happier with their gift beca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/15 04:13 AM |
| 2 | If it is all about looks then why do musicians get laid like crazy? They just have status.I don't know who that is but I googled him and looks-wise he's definitely above average. I won't deny that status is attractive but male looks are more important than a lot of men seem to think (assuming you're not chasing pure gold-diggers). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/15 04:06 AM |
| 7 | What do you think about this red pill post about single mothers?He has some good points, but completely absolves men of any responsibility when he shouldn't. If you fuck a woman after she begs you not to use a condom because she's "on the pill" and you aren't damn sure that she's on the pill, you're a dumbass. It's a moment of pleasure vs 18 years of child support. Horniness does not excuse stupidity. Fucking someone can create a baby and you should always, always take precautions to protect yourself, especially with casual sex. For the record, I think child… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/15 04:02 AM |
| 1 | If it is all about looks then why do musicians get laid like crazy? They just have status.Yeah, exactly. Those men are all EXTREMELY rich. Okay, you can look like a wrinkly ballsack if you're a billionaire. That helps the average man...not at all. There are attractive older men, like George Clooney, but they are actually well above average in physical attractiveness along with their charisma. The musicians that "just" have status are probably decent looking, honestly. I find that a lot of men are terrible at judging the attractiveness of other men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/15 03:49 AM |
| 1 | If it is all about looks then why do musicians get laid like crazy? They just have status.Yeah, I've seen that too. I've seen some borderline "fat positive for men" stuff on Manosphere websites. Yes, it's not ALL about looks, but unless you're rich or famous (or if not super famous, at least making a living off of a creative field) you gotta work on em. I've seen so much resistance to the very idea that working on your looks is important and it seems like an excuse not to do it. Unless you're a massive outlier in another attractive area (money, status) your looks matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/15 12:39 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: Is Gender a Social ConstructI never understand why it's scary for feminists to describe men and women as different. I don't think many people would deny that men and women as a group are different on average (except the really, really radical ones who think physical strength differences are socialized). However, I think a lot of people would definitely prefer not to talk about or publicize that fact. Why? Because humans do, and always will, judge individuals based on what groups they belong to. Pattern recognition is an im… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/15 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Ladies: How do you justify the expectation that men are to pay for dates?This works more if you're looking for an LTR, but trying to get casual sex through a dinner date is probably not the best strategy anyways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/15 03:51 PM |
| 3 | Ladies: How do you justify the expectation that men are to pay for dates?Some women have internalized the idea that an overpriced ring is a sign of how much he loves her. Especially if all the woman's friends got them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/15 03:50 PM |
| 1 | Ladies: How do you justify the expectation that men are to pay for dates?I meant that it's difficult for individuals to break traditions. The divorce thing is society-wide by now; there's no organized movement of men refusing to buy diamonds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/15 03:48 PM |
| 1 | Deregulated SMP and the Economic ConsequencesOh yeah I think MGTOW feel similarly, but there are way more men who would take absolutely anyone than women who would take absolutely anyone, from what I've seen. And yep, I've heard some men say that WGTOW don't exist and that at the end of the day women will always take what they can get because "baby rabies" is too strong. Maybe that's true if you're average looks-wise and have a good income, but if she can't even pull a decent income guy the threat of moving in with cats is very real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/15 03:47 PM |
| 2 | Why do a lot of feminists not respect women's choices ?I am rather achievement-driven myself, but making middle-management isn't my idea of achievement so I'd rather opt out too... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/15 03:42 PM |
| 3 | Ladies: How do you justify the expectation that men are to pay for dates?Fair enough. If you don't go anywhere you have to pay for, no one has to pay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/15 03:16 AM |
| 5 | Your odd sexual attractions in relation to well-known members of the opposite/your own sex?I love the IT crowd guys! I like all the main guys from Silicon Valley too. I also like BJ Novak, Jason Schwartzman, and Jesse Eisenberg. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/15 12:36 AM |
| 8 | Ladies: How do you justify the expectation that men are to pay for dates?Yeah, I don't get why it's rude. I guess maybe if he's filthy rich and asks a not-rich girl out to a restaurant where every meal is some five-course $300 affair it'd be a bit awkward not to pay, but a regular guy asking a regular girl to a regular restaurant with reasonable prices? Just split the dang bill, it'll probably be like $20 each. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/15 10:50 PM |
| 6 | Ladies: How do you justify the expectation that men are to pay for dates?I thought teasing/joking like that increased attraction according to TRP theory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/15 10:43 PM |
| 20 | Ladies: How do you justify the expectation that men are to pay for dates?I think the usual excuse is that whoever did the inviting should pay. The problem is, the man does the inviting 99% of the time. I always split the bill. I'm also financially very well off. If I were struggling with money, would it be tempting to just accept when he says "No, no, I'll get it"? Yes, absolutely. I don't envy men for having to deal with that issue, because sometimes even saying "separate checks, please" or just accepting her offer to split it without offering to pay the whole thing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/15 09:58 PM |
| 1 | What do you think will happen if most men stop marrying ?In that case I suppose. I was picturing a scenario where all of the wives resent all of the other wives and don't interact with each other unless they absolutely have to, like a wife and a mistress probably aren't fond of each other. But if polygamy was the norm, they may grow up without seeing another wife as someone to resent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/15 09:16 PM |
| 3 | Why do a lot of feminists not respect women's choices ?Very true. I doubt anyone would choose to go to the office 8 hours a day and do data entry if they didn't have to. I think men tend to be more achievement-driven, though, and more likely to build things for enjoyment and a sense of satisfaction, or to write a book or learn to paint or something like that even when you take the daily grind out of the occasion. Men seem to derive more enjoyment from creating/building something, women seem to derive more enjoyment from being able to consume freely … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/15 09:14 PM |
| 2 | What do you think will happen if most men stop marrying ?Do you really think most women would be happier having to compete with other wives for their husband's affection, and deal with a bunch of other women's children running around causing their own children to get less resources? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/15 03:06 PM |
| 0 | TheRedPill and female guilt(Physical) weakness, softness, being emotional more than logical, hypergamy, submissiveness, tendency to prioritize comfort over everything else... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/15 02:34 PM |
| 2 | If you're a blue piller, or sympathetic to that view, could you state an affirmative belief you have about gender relations, sex, mate selection?It might, but it seems to be the general consensus that people prefer to marry people with similar SMVs. Hotties want hotties, and I don't think that's a problem. It IS a problem that the mid-range women only chase the hotties, too - they should increase their value or pursue mid-range men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/15 04:50 AM |
| 3 | If you're a blue piller, or sympathetic to that view, could you state an affirmative belief you have about gender relations, sex, mate selection?I think it's important to note that polygyny was also restrained by enforced monogamy. Top tier women lose out in the unrestrained sexual market as well, as many top tier men would rather have casual sex with slightly less attractive women than commit to a top tier one. In men's case, it's mid-range men who lose out because mid-range women are the ones having casual sex with those top tier men in hopes that they'll commit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/15 03:37 AM |
| 2 | Is Diocletian V a papist who should be tried for witchcraft?No. No trials for witchcraft. Straight to the stake! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/15 11:41 PM |
| 5 | Why do you think women tell men they want nice guys?Ah, I see. That makes more sense. Although I still think "nice" on its own is generally a negative descriptor, even for men. While most men do really want a nice woman, I've asked a few male friends what they'd think if someone tried to set them up with a woman and described her as "a nice girl". They almost always said "I bet she's fat". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/15 11:27 PM |
| 4 | Why do you think women tell men they want nice guys?If she thought he was sexually attractive she would either call him asshole, hot, or sexy. Is it possible to be a non-asshole and still be attractive, as a man? I agree that being described as "nice" is generally negative, but honestly both men and women seem to use "nice" as a gentle way of saying "boring and unremarkable but not abrasive at least" when it's the primary quality they assign to a person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/15 11:07 PM |
| 1 | TheRedPill and female guiltIn the context of the typically "feminine" qualities people talk about on Red Pill, or the qualities that a lot of men say they're attracted to, almost all of them are negative. Yes, even the ones guys are attracted to; they're pretty useless/disadvantages aside from being attractive. The qualities women are attracted to tend to also be useful. Perhaps I'm pedestalizing men and masculine qualities too much, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/15 11:05 PM |
| 2 | TheRedPill and female guiltYes, I've felt guilty since I was old enough to comprehend gender issues. I feel guilty that men care about women so much more than women seem to care about men. I feel guilty that women (as a group here, not individually) will basically fuck things up if given the chance to do so because they're thinking about safety and comfort over everything else. I feel guilty that nature has basically programmed women to care for nothing but herself and her children. All of these qualities were useful for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/15 10:49 PM |
| 3 | Deregulated SMP and the Economic ConsequencesI'm not talking about welfare moms here - given that most family households nowadays are double income anyways, I think a lot of really low SMV women would rather just work to support herself (because let's be real, a man with SMV 4 and under probably isn't making enough to allow her not to work anyways when most average men don't even) and remain a singleton than marry a man of equally low SMV. EDIT: To elaborate a little, I think a vast majority of men's preferences are: Hot woman > average wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/15 08:55 PM |
| 3 | Deregulated SMP and the Economic ConsequencesAre you certain that regulating the SMP will improve things for sexually frustrated men, though? If we're talking about "average" but not top-tier men (5-7 SMV around), it might. But in terms of the 4s and below, it's possible that women who are 4 and below would honestly rather go to a sperm bank (or face the social stigma of having sex without commitment) and go the single mom route, or remain single and childless, than support and have sex with a man who is 4 and below. Now that most women ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/15 08:30 PM |
| 9 | Why do a lot of feminists not respect women's choices ?I can't find the exact quote, but it was something like "Homemaker should not be an option because if it is, too many women will choose it". Obviously not all feminists think that, let's get that out of the way. As for the ones who do? I can understand them, a bit. Women, on average, tend to make choices that prioritize comfort, ease, relationships, and fun. Those priorities are almost always considered lazy and childish. I think the feminists who judge these choices are coming at it from a very… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/15 06:34 PM |
| 2 | What do you think about RP women?They're making their own choices with their own lives and that's cool. I think one important difference between RPW and TRP is that RPW advice assumes by default that the woman has chosen a good man. TRP makes no such assumption about men choosing women. Probably because women tend to have more options, it's assumed she chose the best that she could get. Therefore, you get advice like "treat him even better" instead of dread game, as it's assumed that a good man would respond with affection and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/15 12:00 AM |
| 1 | Discussion:My experiences about male/female friendships are very different from how TRP describes themI think they're talking about a very specific type of friendship: One in which a sexually unsatisfied guy seeks companionship with an attractive woman who either has no common interests with him or a couple superficial interests he latches onto (ex: she casually likes the Star Wars movies and he's a devoted Star Wars fan into the EU and everything). In this relationship, the man is specifically hoping for sex. He's pining after her and it breaks his heart that she doesn't see it. He might not ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 02:11 PM |
| 3 | If gender is 'just what's between your legs', what is the point of being a trans person?You're confusing two different camps of people here. The group you're describing is gender abolitionist, and usually comes with radical feminism. They believe that gender is ENTIRELY socially constructed and if stereotyping and the like didn't exist there would be no real differences. A lot of them dislike trans people. The ones who support trans people generally see them as people seeking treatment for body dysphoria who deserve support, but either way they don't usually see them as "real" men/… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 08:18 PM |
| 4 | Why Does TBP Care If Men Subscribe to AWALT?It seems like the general PPD userbase tends towards young adults - and again, possibly introverted ones at that who haven't been in many relationships. If they haven't been confronted with the scenarios TRP describes, they haven't had the chance to prove themselves AWALT or not, and are of course going to think "no, I wouldn't do that". Just like we tend to see stories about disasters and other crises we've never personally went through on TV and think of all the things we would've done better … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 04:52 PM |
| 2 | If women like dangerous bad boys and don't care about reliability or class, then why don't women love catcalls?What's the point of debating with women if anything they say that is contrary to your personal experiences is going to be met with "you're lying to make yourself look better"? Is it that hard to believe that there's even a single woman on this planet who doesn't "love" being catcalled by attractive men? What evidence do you have that from the right guy she actually loves them? Not just likes or doesn't mind, LOVES them. Did she say anything specific that would indicate that, or do you just think… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 02:35 PM |
| 17 | Why Does TBP Care If Men Subscribe to AWALT?On this specific internet community I don't think it has anything to do with some feminine imperative conspiracy or even not wanting men to have the upper hand. Honestly? A lot of people who frequent internet forums are outliers (and this is especially true of women, from what I've seen). Outliers get incorrectly stereotyped a lot. That starts to annoy them after a while. A lot of fairly masculine (or at least, not very feminine) women coming across a community where men are saying that ALL wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/15 07:59 PM |
| 7 | Question for Women of BOTH pills.Biologically, yes absolutely. The male body is optimized for every-day life. The female body is optimized for reproduction. Women are weaker, they gain weight more easily, they generally need more sleep, they have to deal with periods, sex is painful if you aren't adequately prepared, breasts are inconvenient little cancer-bombs, and if you want a biological child you're forced to invest 9 months of pain into it, not to mention childbirth. As women our bodies sacrifice a lot of function for the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/15 05:21 PM |
| 6 | Are men being socialized to avoid non STEM fields?I think it's more that men are socialized to choose degrees that have a very high chance of being rewarded with a well-paying job. The hard sciences generally pay better than the social sciences, and the "creative" fields are risky. If you make it in those fields you make it big time...if you fail you're a barista. Although as someone studying art this actually isn't true - unless you're totally lacking in skills it's very possible to make a living off of art. Art programs are just generally ful… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/15 12:26 AM |
| 2 | [Question for bluepill] Would you consider this advice legitimate?It's perfectly sensible advice for people who are, say, a 6 or below on the SMV scale without much hope of improving it, and who also want a family/children. If you'd rather be alone, cool, but this is the harsh reality for lots and lots of people who are just going to have to learn to deal with it. Yes, most people would rather marry someone they are absolutely passionately attracted to in every way, unconditionally. But the truth is this doesn't happen often, and when this "unconditional" love… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 04:26 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think women say they want "nice guys" ?Looks like marriage is getting less appealing for everyone. Ah well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/15 04:19 AM |
| 3 | Why do you think women say they want "nice guys" ?Yeah, this. Nice may be desirable, but it's not attractive. I've seen a few guys say they're attracted to intelligence/talent/whatever and I think it's a similar issue. No, it's a quality you like to see in someone who is already attractive, but the 300 pound acne-ridden person isn't going to become dateable because they're really really nice or really really smart. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 11:41 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think women say they want "nice guys" ?Do women really want to end up with a Beta Bux, though? Beta Bux always seemed like what you're stuck with when you're 35 and looking to marry. An okay guy you're not really attracted to but is willing to provide for you. Would the ideal be a hot guy who's willing to provide for you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 11:37 PM |
| 2 | The Donald: Misogynist, or just an uncouth dick?Thanks, teach. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 01:39 PM |
| 1 | The Donald: Misogynist, or just an uncouth dick?No, he's not misogynist. It is annoying as fuck and pretty ignorant when a woman acting bitchy or over-emotional is assumed to be on her period, though. PMS is not a universal thing (only around 50% of women get it iirc? I know I don't) so the whole 'ah you must be PMSing' thing is pretty often wrong. Not to mention it takes the responsibility away from the woman's actions and places it on her loopy hormones (and honestly, even if you do get PMS it's not an excuse to act out in public, control y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 02:28 AM |
| 3 | The Donald: Misogynist, or just an uncouth dick?Hey, Donald has faced a lot of hardship in his rodent-centric society, especially since everyone points to Scrooge as proof that "duckism is over" and innocent birds are accused of mouseogyny left and right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 02:23 AM |
| 5 | If you believe the redpill is made up of angry men, what do you believe is the cause of that anger and what could alleviate that anger?The entire world falls at their knees to help them. Yeah, this is a massive exaggeration. There are plenty of times when women have problems and they have to help themselves. The entire world certainly doesn't fall at their knees to help them. Almost no one helps men, I agree. And that's shitty. But making it look like women have no problems that other people don't immediately fall over themselves to help them with is demeaning. You don't give a shit about women's problems? That's cool, but don'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 08:08 PM |
| 1 | What can we learn from the recent feminist backlash to the r/menslib sub?I think the problem with both feminists and MRAs is that they view everything as a men vs. women issue. Feminists tend to think that women are absolutely disadvantaged and men are absolutely privileged - MRAs that I've seen tend to think the opposite, that women have no disadvantages and all the privileges. Obviously both groups are going to alienate the gender they view as "privileged". Everyone has hardships and both genders have disadvantages, so saying that men are absolute oppressors reapin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 01:54 PM |
| 5 | Any blue pill response to Ronda Rowdy Rousey's comments regarding DNBs?Yeah, that's true. I guess I'm comparing extremes here, but I think a lot of men would prefer a vapid/boring but agreeable and flexible woman over a hyper-ambitious woman like Rousey even if she were more attractive, but the ideal would be a middle ground. I think someone with the looks and femininity of a Basic Bitch and the passion and ambition of Rousey would pretty much be a unicorn, anyways: just ain't likely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/15 04:12 PM |
| 5 | Any blue pill response to Ronda Rowdy Rousey's comments regarding DNBs?Men want the looks of someone who's a DNB, but happens not to be a DNB. Are you sure? It seems to me that being a DNB would be somewhat of an advantage, if you're the right kind of DNB. The "bad" DNB = thinks she's a princess, entitled, active hates doing anything that qualifies as work, basically your classic gold digger type. The "good" DNB = pleasant and feminine, is willing to go with the flow and come along with her man for the ride without having strong hobbies or passions that would diver… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/15 03:58 PM |
| 7 | Any blue pill response to Ronda Rowdy Rousey's comments regarding DNBs?Well, being actually attractive to the opposite sex is something that is important if you are interested in attracting someone of the opposite sex. Oh, yeah, absolutely. No denying that. I also agree: she is quite masculine. However, in pure dating market terms, I think a lot of the sighing I've seen men do about DNB types is similar to the sighing women do about the lack of "nice men". Being "nice" doesn't make you an attractive man, "doing something" doesn't make you an attractive woman. If yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/15 03:42 PM |
| 11 | Any blue pill response to Ronda Rowdy Rousey's comments regarding DNBs?Purple response okay? I generally agree with her. My mom basically taught me the same thing: don't just coast on looks because those fade and then you'll be miserable. And that's good advice. But I'll bet a lot of men find her less attractive than a DNB that spends all her time on looking pretty and not much else. That's the sad truth, I think: as admirable as not being a DNB is, it does not necessarily increase your attractiveness and may even decrease it if you don't tend to your looks and/or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/15 12:35 PM |
| 2 | PUT HIM IN THE DOGHOUSE: BRING your man to heel and he'll be straining at the leash to please you.It's a shame that so many marriages seem to end up like that. It's why I'm not getting married. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 07:06 PM |
| 8 | PUT HIM IN THE DOGHOUSE: BRING your man to heel and he'll be straining at the leash to please you.I dunno, I'm female and that seems pretty contradictory to me. How would one even manage this? I guess you could try and find a guy who is in perfect agreement with you about what the rules should be... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 03:43 PM |
| 4 | PUT HIM IN THE DOGHOUSE: BRING your man to heel and he'll be straining at the leash to please you.I agree with point 1. Praise his hard work instead of nagging him for the things he doesn't do. That's a great tip. The 'reward' part is a little bizarre. 2 is decent too, although worded condescendingly. He doesn't like dealing with in-laws, so cook his favorite meal while they're there. Share his hobbies with him (go fishing) and try to improve his experience (pack lunch for the fishing trip). I don't think number 3 would work very well on men except maybe in the early stages of the relationsh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 03:30 PM |
| 1 | Are there any legitimate reasons about why women,as a group, shouldn't be allowed to vote ?Ignore their complaining. That's like saying "parents MUST buy their kids every toy they want, or the kid will scream louder and louder until they do". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 05:17 PM |
| 2 | What's your opinion on how staggeringly unequal the contributions of sexes are to society?Yep, but the thing is, for that to change men would need to start having higher standards for women in the same way women have for men. Remember what Dave Chapelle said: men would live in cardboard boxes if women were lining up to have sex with them there. Men are basically lining up to fuck women in cardboard boxes as long as they're hot. Most people take the path of least resistance, and for women that means if you're hot and not a raging harpy you basically don't have to bring anything else t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 05:06 PM |
| 5 | Why should we say that women , as a group, are inferior ?Most women don't work at building civilization because they don't HAVE to. But I don't believe that women as a whole would rather go back to mud huts and zero modern comforts instead of taking up the work the men did. Work is hard, yeah. So is getting food without technological aid, suffering from diseases without modern medicine, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 04:51 PM |
| 3 | Is it possible that some of what gets called misogyny/sexism is actually equal treatment and women aren't used to that?Honestly I think it'll be less of an issue in the future. That people who criticize women will be seen as villainous, I mean. Tumblr-tier victimhood and whining is becoming more mainstream and most people in general won't want to abide by that, I don't think. Society is gentler on women, but I think we'll draw the line at 'otherkin' and being triggered by bunnies and thinking that cheese is a symbol of the oppression of Africa by colonialist England or whatever the hell. A vast majority of peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 12:10 AM |
| 6 | Is it possible that some of what gets called misogyny/sexism is actually equal treatment and women aren't used to that?For a short while. Humans are adaptable creatures, women will learn to deal with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/15 08:46 PM |
| 8 | Is it possible that some of what gets called misogyny/sexism is actually equal treatment and women aren't used to that?Yes, I agree. I think society as a whole needs to start treating women more like men in regards to criticism. A thin skin does no one any good, and as a result you get someone being offended by the word "dongle" or people who need a trigger warning for pictures of trees or need a "safe room" with pillows and stuffed toys or something. That's not a healthy thing to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/15 07:20 PM |
| 5 | Is it possible that some of what gets called misogyny/sexism is actually equal treatment and women aren't used to that?Do you think this might be a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy? Women never learn to take harsh criticism because they never GET harsh criticism except in very rare cases. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/15 06:59 PM |
| 3 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?Yeah. I guess I'm focusing so much on pain because that is the big sticking point for me. I just can't do it. I wouldn't want my partner to do anything painful just for my pleasure either. I know lots of people don't mind or even enjoy sexual pain, though, so I suppose I'm just not compatible with those rougher sorts. I'd definitely try to do things that I just didn't really get much out of or were tiring etc if it was something my partner loved though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/15 05:05 PM |
| 2 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?Erm...yes? That is one reason why I don't think promiscuity is a good idea. Fair enough. It'd kinda suck to find that your sexual interests were totally incompatible after marriage, though. And as far as clicking on every level...I dunno, I think you can be completely into each other like nothing else and still have limits when it comes to sexual stuff. No relationship is flawless, and you're likely not going to match up taste-wise on every single thing. If anal is something you want frequently … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/15 04:36 PM |
| 6 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?If she tried it with you and still didn't like it would you feel bad if she wouldn't do it anymore? And just because she doesn't want to do one thing doesn't mean she doesn't want to make you happy. There's a difference between doing something you don't get pleasure from to make your partner happy, and doing something that actively hurts to make them happy. Especially if they only did it one time - is there really no difference between trying something one time and disliking it and doing somethi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/15 04:06 PM |
| 1 | How do feminists reconcile that they get access to all the good mediums of advocacy?Sure. Just a different kind. EDIT: Wow, I've been downvoted all over this thread. Sorry I wasn't polite enough with my arguments I guess? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/15 02:44 AM |
| 1 | The Extreme Female BrainInteresting, but not the same. Autism is characterized by abnormally high systemizing, abnormally low empathizing. Eating disorders and anxiety seem to be caused by high empathizing, but nothing suggests abnormally low systemizing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/15 11:23 PM |
| 2 | How do feminists reconcile that they get access to all the good mediums of advocacy?I think some wires got crossed and people assumed it was being deleted to protect and coddle this no-name indie developer woman and her dumb game, instead of being deleted because gaming subreddits are about video games and not angry exes venting baseless gossip. I lurk KiA. It is indeed a bizarre and interesting show. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/15 10:56 PM |
| 1 | How do feminists reconcile that they get access to all the good mediums of advocacy?IF you're okay with avoiding accountability meaning getting zero credit for any good decisions you make, too. And if you're attractive and pleasant enough to land a powerful man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/15 10:51 PM |
| 1 | How do feminists reconcile that they get access to all the good mediums of advocacy?Ah. I always assumed it was being deleted because it was useless gossip, but that makes sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/15 09:10 PM |
| 1 | How do feminists reconcile that they get access to all the good mediums of advocacy?True enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/15 08:53 PM |
| -1 | How do feminists reconcile that they get access to all the good mediums of advocacy?Yes, the effect is the same, but there are advantages and disadvantages to wielding it yourself and wielding it by proxy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/15 08:32 PM |
| -1 | How do feminists reconcile that they get access to all the good mediums of advocacy?Hm. That is true. But I think there's still a difference between being strong enough to defend yourself and being weak but paying a bodyguard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/15 08:17 PM |
| 2 | Question for redpillers (and rpw) who believe in LTRs... Do restrictions on travel apply to men as well?I don't think anyone at TRP opposes dating women who like to go on vacations sometimes. Most people like to go on vacations sometimes. The red flags are: Going alone with a single male non-relative. Doing an extreme amount of traveling and going on Eat Pray Love style "find yourself" vacations all the damn time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/15 08:04 PM |
| 2 | Are women more prudish than men are?Depends on what you're talking about. Generally, no. In regards to something like anal, that is generally pleasurable for the man and likely painful for the woman? More likely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/15 07:54 PM |
| 7 | Are women more prudish than men are?What about the kitchen, huh? Instructions unclear, fucked the dishes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/15 07:51 PM |
| 1 | What behaviors are seen as cliche, stereotypical, or trollish when it comes to discussing feminism and TRP? Generally speaking, and for a specific example.Yeah, exactly. If you walk around calling yourself strong and independent, you're probably obnoxious, just like someone who walked around telling everyone how smart they are. Show, don't tell. Also, I think the mockery of the term "SJW" comes from the "warrior" part. It's hyperbole, making fun of people who get too hardcore and angry about that kind of thing. Social Justice Advocate would probably be a better self-descriptor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/15 07:47 PM |
| -1 | How do feminists reconcile that they get access to all the good mediums of advocacy?Is power that requires you to convince another person to like you and fight for you actually power, though? Let's look at it this way: say only men have the vote. Even the most disgusting, repulsive douchebag of a man gets a vote, whether anyone likes him or not. A woman, on the other hand, must make herself likable and charming to a man (or men) on order to convince him to vote the way she would want to vote. Maybe voting isn't the best example, but that seems to be the way things went for a lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/15 07:43 PM |
| 2 | How do feminists reconcile that they get access to all the good mediums of advocacy?It's much easier to point the finger at the gaming industry's blatant misogyny when male gamers (who have access to hundreds of cutting-edge 3D games) give poor ratings and refuse to embrace one woman's fictional browser game named... and I shit you not... Depression Quest. Depression Quest? SIGN ME UP! Has anyone said that male gamers not LIKING Depression Quest is misogyny? Don't get me wrong, I think it's a dumb idea for a game, but the fact that her weepy ex's unsourced, unproven blog post a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/15 07:34 PM |
| 2 | Bluepill CMV-Case study on Hypergamy 101: "Girlfriend/wife lost weight then dumped me/divorce raped me"Yes, I'm purple. I think my best advice there would be not to commit to an LTR until you have improved yourself. Especially when it comes to younger fat women, they can dramatically improve their SMV within a year if they start eating healthier. In some cases, all the lifting and charisma in the world won't allow the man to keep up (and sometimes it's the reverse, but that seems rarer IMO). Work on yourself before you start dating, and once you've begun to improve you'll be able to date people m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/15 02:06 PM |
| 2 | Bluepill CMV-Case study on Hypergamy 101: "Girlfriend/wife lost weight then dumped me/divorce raped me"The mistake here was that he expected her to stay with him once her SMV dramatically improved. She was putting effort into fitness and beauty, and he apparently did nothing other than support these changes (guy supports his significant other getting hotter? Ya don't say!) It seems like the only thing he has to offer her that the higher SMV men don't is the fact that he didn't judge her when she was fat. Unfortunately, that fact doesn't necessarily earn loyalty, especially if the relationship was… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/15 01:55 PM |
| 1 | Male promiscuity is undesirableUndesirable? Yes. The problem is, not everything undesirable is unattractive. Human beings are attracted to a lot of things that once served us well but no longer do. But it takes willpower to say "I'm attracted to this quality, BUT it won't work out well if I act on it". Most people stop at "I'm attracted to this quality". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/15 01:28 AM |
| 0 | Should their be a legal age to consent to sex?Yes, there should be. Age of consent is not the problem, the zero-tolerance attitude towards it (and all sex offender crimes) is. 16 year olds should not be sex offenders for sending nude selfies. This guy should not be a sex offender for sleeping with a girl who absolutely lied about her age. I remember a case where a woman got a life sentence without possibility of parole for holding a teenage boy's hand to her clothed breast after she got drunk at a party, because that was the mandatory minim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/15 09:26 PM |
| 1 | True or False? Women are more emotional than men.Generally true. If we took a man and a woman who were equally emotional and observed them, the woman would likely express her emotions more as well. Even discounting expression, however, I believe that women tend towards emotion more than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/15 09:13 PM |
| 6 | True or False? Women are more emotional than men.I actually read a book on disaster survival which touched upon this, and had a very interesting theory: that both emotion and logic make up reason, and a completely logical person can be just as irrational as a completely emotional person. They studied men who had a certain type of brain damage which affected their ability to feel emotion, and found that they constantly made poor decisions by ignoring factors of the moment. People who are more emotional than logical tend to be worse at long-term… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/15 09:02 PM |
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