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1

If that's why you think it's fantasy, then you need to approach more girls, mate.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/22 01:48 AM
1

Well, at least someone here is rational lol. And while the partial success feels good, I didn't write the report to brag but to hopefully hear insights from you and the others. Perhaps you'll point out something I missed.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/22 01:13 AM
2

Are you suggesting I made the whole thing up? lol
/r/TheRedPill12/12/22 12:55 AM
1

The only reason I didn't is because her friend got very aggressive towards the end and I didn't think it wise to escalate the situation.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/22 12:54 AM
-6

I have no idea what that means.
/r/TheRedPill11/12/22 11:03 PM
2

Depends on the creator and their content. If most their content is for sale, it's likely bogus. And if it's legit, you can likely find it elsewhere for free. If they're selling books.....shoot me a DM and we'll talk.
/r/seduction17/09/22 01:08 AM
2

Seven
/r/seduction27/08/22 04:44 PM
1

A little social calibration goes a long way.....If you want, I'll tell you about the worst cold approach I've ever witnessed.
/r/seduction26/08/22 08:55 PM
3

She gave you a shit test. The correct way to respond is to lean into it. The moment you let her know it bothers you, you've failed.
/r/seduction25/08/22 03:11 AM
3

It's the opposite for girls. They get with guys IRL who they'd never give the time of day on dating apps.
/r/seduction24/08/22 05:11 PM
1

Mystery was a skinny dude. You shoud try his method.
/r/seduction21/08/22 05:36 PM
4

It's ok, Kid. You'll grow up someday.
/r/seduction14/08/22 02:28 PM
3

Dirty?
/r/seduction14/08/22 05:31 AM
4

Sort of. We had a disagreement in the comments about cold approach a while back.
/r/seduction14/08/22 05:16 AM
12

Not you again! lol
/r/seduction14/08/22 03:23 AM
33

If 99% of dudes aren't approaching at all, then how are all these people getting together? 🤔
/r/seduction14/08/22 01:00 AM
8

Do it anyway. Some of the girls will like you and some won't.....but that's the case wherever you go.
/r/seduction13/08/22 07:41 PM
5

It could be perceived as a negative. You say "I go to therapy" and she hears "there's something wrong with me that needs fixing."
/r/seduction13/08/22 03:00 AM
8

Honestly, I would avoid mentioning that until after you until you've had a chance to show her your value. Then she'll have a chance to weigh the good against the bad and decide if she wants to stick around. Show her the bad first and you might scare her off.
/r/seduction13/08/22 12:00 AM
1

Oneitis
/r/seduction12/08/22 09:20 PM
1

It's called "game" for a reason, man. Learn it as quickly as you can!
/r/seduction12/08/22 06:48 PM
1

In my case, I struck gold on the 7th. Never give up!
/r/seduction12/08/22 02:56 AM
1

Right? I'm up to 50! lol
/r/seduction12/08/22 02:56 AM
2

This was a thing long before Instagram. Neil Strauss talks about it in The Game. Back then it was called Cat String Theory.
/r/seduction12/08/22 12:59 AM
2

My college had a little hangout area where all the nerds gathered so maybe look out for one of those.
/r/seduction10/08/22 01:26 PM
6

No....really
/r/seduction10/08/22 04:08 AM
5

Haven't heard of that one. What's it about?
/r/seduction10/08/22 03:46 AM
1

Depends on the venue. If it's big enough that women won't notice you hopping from one girl to the next, you're fine. Also, if you're there long enough, women will come & go and you'll have new options who have no idea what you've been doing.
/r/seduction09/08/22 06:45 PM
1

You don't need eye contact for a cold approach, but otherwise spot on.
/r/seduction07/08/22 05:03 PM
2

I'm average and I get them if I approach enough women.
/r/seduction07/08/22 04:31 AM
2

Is it the alcohol?
/r/seduction06/08/22 12:07 AM
1

Hmm....what makes it better?
/r/seduction05/08/22 11:40 PM
1

The way some people talk about Models, they make it seem like a more modern version of Mystery Method.
/r/seduction04/08/22 09:32 PM
1

What about Mystery Method?
/r/seduction04/08/22 09:29 PM
11

I'm gonna have to read this book. Everyone talks about it
/r/seduction04/08/22 08:42 PM
2

I would advise against idolizing Kickboxer Boy
/r/seduction04/08/22 03:39 AM
18

Tate has a scheme going where he gets guys to put out his name on the internet constantly..........and it's working
/r/seduction04/08/22 03:33 AM
1

Approach them the same as any other girl. With confidence
/r/seduction03/08/22 05:52 PM
3

Thong pics
/r/seduction30/07/22 01:04 PM
1

You slept with 5 women out of how many?
/r/seduction29/07/22 05:04 PM
3

😎🛹
/r/seduction28/07/22 07:40 PM
41

Next time you see her.....just act like it never even happened.
/r/seduction28/07/22 01:46 PM
0

Makes me wonder if this particular guy would've been finding had he stuck the landing and not spilled the damn thing
/r/seduction28/07/22 04:43 AM
0

Now that makes sense.
/r/seduction28/07/22 04:41 AM
2

Your success rate will be low but you WILL see success if you keep doing it. Now whether or not that's worth it is up to you
/r/seduction28/07/22 03:48 AM
1

Is it that hard for you people understand that I saw some crazy shit and wanted to ask if maybe others had seen the same thing or something similar?
/r/seduction28/07/22 03:42 AM
0

Indeed
/r/seduction28/07/22 03:40 AM
1

I didn't "need" to ask.....I wanted to. And if it bothers you that much, there's countless other Reddit posts you could be at instead of this one. We're done here
/r/seduction28/07/22 02:39 AM
2

Obviously.
/r/seduction28/07/22 02:18 AM
1

I would never try something like that for myself. Are you too stupid to see when someone's asking a question out of curiosity?
/r/seduction28/07/22 02:18 AM
1

Theft for sure.....thought the spilling was accidental....not sure if that qualifies as asaault. Your butthurt comment was nice though.
/r/seduction27/07/22 11:32 PM
4

Finally! A person who talks like they have some sense.
/r/seduction27/07/22 11:20 PM
0

I can....but only in rare instances. Not something I would ever recommend lol
/r/seduction27/07/22 10:50 PM
0

I wish I was but this really happened.
/r/seduction27/07/22 10:41 PM
1

Funny
/r/seduction27/07/22 10:18 PM
3

No, it really happened. And just to be clear, I'm not advocating that sort of behavior.
/r/seduction27/07/22 09:56 PM
-3

And yet.....you felt the need to leave a comment
/r/seduction27/07/22 09:52 PM
5

Where in the text did you see me advocate for doing this sort of thing? I'm literally just asking if other people have witnessed similar behaviors and what the outcome was.
/r/seduction27/07/22 09:49 PM
-1

I'm not the one who did it lol. Mainly just asking if some of you have witnessed similar things out in the field.
/r/seduction27/07/22 08:09 PM
-8

I'm not saying I would do it... just wondering if it was some sort of trend
/r/seduction27/07/22 08:08 PM
5

I just work here, man.
/r/seduction27/07/22 08:00 PM
-14

Probably for shock value...and to establish dominance.
/r/seduction27/07/22 07:54 PM
7

Most likely she's using you for attention. You could try your luck and go for it.....but only once. Then move on
/r/seduction21/07/22 02:22 AM
1

Her advice won't help you.
/r/seduction20/07/22 11:55 PM
4

Huh.....for me it's the opposite
/r/seduction14/07/22 03:53 AM
1

That's absurd!
/r/seduction13/07/22 07:41 PM
1

And the golden age is long over?
/r/seduction13/07/22 04:28 PM
1

I've never seen his show? Is it worth watching?
/r/seduction13/07/22 04:01 PM
2

I'm not kidding
/r/seduction13/07/22 12:51 PM
1

Dairy!
/r/seduction12/07/22 11:35 PM
2

He definitely exists irl lol
/r/seduction12/07/22 10:59 PM
2

.....dary!
/r/seduction12/07/22 10:22 PM
3

Lengen.......
/r/seduction12/07/22 10:22 PM
3

Because of the magic tricks?
/r/seduction12/07/22 09:24 PM
1

You're in a lot of trouble, buddy. lol
/r/seduction12/07/22 09:16 PM
4

Ah......anybody can do that.
/r/seduction12/07/22 08:35 PM
3

It's not that it gets easier.....it's that YOU get better. You have the chance to try out a ton of things, figuring out what works and what doesn't. Sometimes you come up empty-handed inspite of your best efforts. Sometimes you get laid without hardly trying it all. Just rememeber, experience and patience.....if you have both, you can accomplish anything.
/r/seduction12/07/22 08:34 PM
7

And it works?
/r/seduction12/07/22 08:31 PM
12

Just talk to them. They'll love you
/r/seduction12/07/22 10:20 AM
6

And it's only getting worse.
/r/seduction12/07/22 08:09 AM
1

More herpes?
/r/seduction11/07/22 04:26 PM
1

Go ahead
/r/seduction11/07/22 01:57 PM
12

I just work here, man.
/r/seduction11/07/22 02:25 AM
2

I am off my ass. I come here after gaining experience. Why don't you stop talking shit and say something productive
/r/seduction11/07/22 01:39 AM
1

I'm aware that the basic formula is still the same....I'm just asking if the parameters have changed.
/r/seduction11/07/22 01:36 AM
2

I'd like to get one. It's hard at my age.
/r/seduction11/07/22 01:12 AM
1

Did I break the rules?
/r/seduction11/07/22 01:10 AM
2

Dude....I'm doing it right now. Plus I started a personal journal a while ago to keep track of it all.
/r/seduction11/07/22 12:56 AM
1

Oh, I'm not beating myself up about how badly things went. Just saying I wasn't really in a proper state of mind to run game that night and made many mistakes because of it lol
/r/seduction11/07/22 12:50 AM
1

I'm not using this as an excuse but I was in a pretty bad mood at the time and not really looking to start a set....but she was literally calling me. I'm usually better with the whole confidence thing. Not perfect....but better.
/r/seduction11/07/22 12:44 AM
1

Can we DM? I think I could help
/r/seduction11/07/22 12:42 AM
1

"Hey! Did you see those two girls fighting outside?"
/r/seduction11/07/22 12:36 AM
1

Understood. Anything else?
/r/seduction11/07/22 12:31 AM
1

I implied with my tone of voice that her and her friend sitting next to her might be lesbian lovers.
/r/seduction11/07/22 12:27 AM
0

What if he opens in just the right way?
/r/seduction11/07/22 12:22 AM
1

Very true.....but I'm talking about strictly cold approach.
/r/seduction11/07/22 12:09 AM
2

I'm more of a ONS kind of guy.
/r/seduction11/07/22 12:08 AM
1

I've had plenty myself. Feel free to DM if you ever wanna share stories and trade tips.
/r/seduction11/07/22 12:05 AM
1

For the sake of argument, let's say all girls over 21.
/r/seduction11/07/22 12:04 AM
1

The best! 🍰
/r/seduction10/07/22 11:38 PM
2

You're a genius!
/r/seduction10/07/22 11:31 PM
2

?
/r/seduction10/07/22 11:30 PM
1

Nice!
/r/seduction10/07/22 11:25 PM
3

The introduction of dating apps and social media. From what I understand, a big part of game is talking to a woman in such a way that she seeks validation from you......but in today's world, they're getting an insane amount of free validation from places like Tinder and Instagram, making the value of my in-person attention a lot less than it would otherwise be. Now, don't get me wrong.....you can still find success with cold approach (and I have), but I can't help but wonder if the results were …
/r/seduction10/07/22 11:24 PM
2

Did you kiss Dina? Seems like you may have had an opening
/r/seduction10/07/22 11:18 PM
3

That's a choice you'll have to make for yourself. I wasn't having sex at your age and I sorely regret it.
/r/seduction10/07/22 11:07 PM
1

Well, the alternative is to not have sex.
/r/seduction10/07/22 11:04 PM
1

Repetition.
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:59 PM
2

Unfortunately, yes.
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:55 PM
2

You had an off night. Those happen.....keep going.
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:48 PM
1

Recreational use?
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:43 PM
3

And if there an effective non-hormonal male birth control, I'd be the first one in line to take it. Otherwise, I can't afford to trust another person to not get pregnant. They could be lying. They could be inconsistent about taking their pills. Or we could succumb to good old-fashioned bad luck.
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:37 PM
5

Plenty of men would though....for an average woman.
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:33 PM
1

Darn it! lol
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:32 PM
1

Maybe......perhaps I could help you with that.
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:25 PM
2

Herpes would be nothing if it wasn't, you know......forever!
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:21 PM
2

HPV DOES go away.
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:18 PM
2

It has to do with figuring out which women to target for the "relationships" I want.
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:17 PM
3

I prefer women 20 years older than me. I find that they're more open to listening to what I have to say when I approach....and have more to say in return because of life experience. They also tend to be more humble than they're 20-something counterparts. Have fun!
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:16 PM
1

Too bad
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:12 PM
2

Sounds hot
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:11 PM
1

Well....at least it's not permanent
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:11 PM
0

I'll rival it someday.
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:09 PM
2

You're talking about a community dedicated to discussing the events that lead up to sex. Why would the sex itself be off-limits to talk about?
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:09 PM
1

💪
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:06 PM
2

All I want are casual hook-ups.
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:05 PM
2

Your comments inspired my post.
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:03 PM
2

Sounds about right.
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:03 PM
3

Name the time and place. 😈
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:01 PM
3

Which one is the bad one again?
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:00 PM
2

That's what I hear lately......although until I turned 25, I thought most men were approaching on a regular basis and I was in the minority who was just to scared.
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:00 PM
1

I posted a FR of one of my approaches a couple days ago. Feel free to read and comment.
/r/seduction10/07/22 09:54 PM
1

Well, at least that one's not permanent. I know I'm preacing to the choir but I really hate the idea that you can catch a permanent disease by having sex. Like....can't we just live!
/r/seduction10/07/22 09:54 PM
1

He was a great role model....before he went nuts.
/r/seduction10/07/22 09:52 PM
3

44 so far.
/r/seduction10/07/22 09:50 PM
2

🔥🔥🔥
/r/seduction10/07/22 09:50 PM
3

So glad I got vaxxed for HPV in high school.
/r/seduction10/07/22 09:49 PM
1

I don't know much about the subject but hear doctors only test for it if symptoms are present.
/r/seduction10/07/22 09:46 PM
1

Nice
/r/seduction10/07/22 09:43 PM
1

I guess what I'm really wondering is how so many people are able to sleep around prolifically without catching it....unless they are and choose to keep quiet or aren't even aware.
/r/seduction10/07/22 09:41 PM
0

I'm aiming for hundreds.
/r/seduction10/07/22 09:36 PM
2

The sex part. I'm not rawdogging 20 & 30-somethings.
/r/seduction10/07/22 09:28 PM
11

Because of how attraction works, I figured men would be more willing to risk it with a herpes positive woman than women would be with a herpes positive man......so I wanted to learn which category you fall under to examine your experience in the correct light.
/r/seduction10/07/22 09:27 PM
7

Wait....are you a woman?
/r/seduction10/07/22 09:22 PM
11

I meant the disclosure. Say you meet a woman at the bar, take her home, and then....."Hey! Just to let you know....I have herpes. Still wanna get down?"
/r/seduction10/07/22 09:12 PM
16

Uh......what?
/r/seduction10/07/22 09:11 PM
17

Funny
/r/seduction10/07/22 09:08 PM
28

Hopefully there will be in our lifetime....or better yet, a fucking cure. I got the HPV vaccine in high school.
/r/seduction10/07/22 09:08 PM
7

Has it hurt your chances with women?
/r/seduction10/07/22 09:07 PM
1

If that's all it takes, then wouldn't nearly everyone have it? And why is there a stigma?
/r/seduction10/07/22 08:41 PM
13

What was your sex life like after you caught it?
/r/seduction10/07/22 08:34 PM
1

Guaranteed? Really?
/r/seduction10/07/22 08:18 PM
3

"Of course I do.....hundreds every week." Always agree & amplify in those situations. She doesn't actually want the answer.....she just wants to see how you'll handle the question.
/r/seduction10/07/22 08:15 PM
4

Common occurence. The solution....ask out more women.....a lot more
/r/seduction10/07/22 07:59 PM
1

There's a bridge I'd like to sell you.
/r/seduction10/07/22 07:34 PM
2

Absolutely not!
/r/seduction10/07/22 06:53 PM
1

Treat them like a bratty little sister.
/r/seduction10/07/22 01:43 AM
1

Here's what you tell that guy: "Hey. Do you like her?" If he says yes, you say......"then you should buy her a drink" If he says no, you say......"Oh, well I'm sure you'll find someone if you keep trying" He's done
/r/seduction09/07/22 11:31 PM
1

And what is square 2? lol
/r/seduction09/07/22 10:56 PM
2

Eh....I prefer the look of women I see irl.
/r/seduction09/07/22 10:35 PM
1

Not at all.
/r/seduction09/07/22 09:21 PM
1

How early? Seems like a hard sell for someone I just met.
/r/seduction09/07/22 09:21 PM
1

Sounds like a plan
/r/seduction09/07/22 04:55 AM
163

I never understood the appeal of Insta Models.
/r/seduction09/07/22 01:37 AM
2

You're giving her too much interest for free. I've done it many times. Learn to restrain your attention.
/r/seduction09/07/22 12:36 AM
1

Yes there is. Even if it looks random, there's strategy involved.....it's just more instinctual.
/r/seduction09/07/22 12:32 AM
2

I thought that for a long time.....Now I'm a whole 5 years behind in terms of learning game. Don't do that to yourself.
/r/seduction09/07/22 12:24 AM
1

From now on I will.
/r/seduction08/07/22 11:20 PM
1

Just need more practice actually engaging with them. I know I failed here....that's why I made the post.
/r/seduction08/07/22 10:54 PM
0

Yea. At this point in my game, I like to think I know a "lonely old woman at the bar" type when I see one.
/r/seduction08/07/22 10:52 PM
1

I intended to once I returned from the restroom.......but she made her exit while I was in there.
/r/seduction08/07/22 10:47 PM
1

Just to be clear.....they didn't leave her alone WITH me. They judt left her alone. I took notice and made my approach a while later.
/r/seduction08/07/22 10:46 PM
1

Ah....makes sense. I have a tendency to either do that or go in for the kill too quickly.
/r/seduction08/07/22 10:39 PM
1

Not sure if this is relevant or not but she initially came there with two of her friends but they ditched her for reasons I couldn't quite comprehend but she decribed it in a way that sounded just a bit petty.....that's where I came in.
/r/seduction08/07/22 10:29 PM
2

She's probably my biggest missed opportunity so far. Live and learn, I suppose.
/r/seduction08/07/22 10:20 PM
1

Yea. Perhaps I should've had that break earlier in the conversation but I didn't want to kill the momentum or risk someone stealing her away while I was gone.
/r/seduction08/07/22 09:58 PM
2

Thanks. I can't help but wonder how much longer she would've stayed had I not left the table.....but I really had to pee.
/r/seduction08/07/22 09:55 PM
18

Hopefully you'll stick around to give good advice in this community. A lot of us need it.
/r/seduction08/07/22 08:47 PM
2

In the past year, I've had success with 3 women and been rejected by 41.......and trust me, those 3 were definitely worth the rejection.
/r/seduction08/07/22 08:44 PM
114

Make no mistake.....women know damn well you're trying to get in their pants......plausible deniability gives them comfort.
/r/seduction08/07/22 07:18 PM
1

Are you familiar with the 3-Second Rule? Environmental openers are generally better than scripted openers.....but the main thing is learning to use both in a way that feels natural and comfortable.....and that comes with practice.
/r/seduction08/07/22 06:10 PM
1

Are you doing analysis after each night.....replaying the events in your head to figure out what works and what doesn't?
/r/seduction08/07/22 05:53 PM
99

It might be best to have an activity already built-in and invite her to tag along. Example: "I'm gonna head home, have a glass of wine, and play MarioKart. Wanna come?"
/r/seduction08/07/22 05:46 PM
2

Depends on what you're getting in return. Is it a give & take relationship.....or are you just the landfill she visits when she needs to dump her negative emotions?
/r/seduction08/07/22 05:42 PM
1

You don't wanna get locked into oneitis, do you?
/r/seduction08/07/22 05:37 PM
3

You like your career? You wanna lose it?
/r/seduction07/07/22 01:27 AM
2

I tend to go in for the kill too early....but I'm working on it
/r/seduction07/07/22 01:14 AM
2

Sure.
/r/seduction07/07/22 01:04 AM
2

I once pulled two hot chicks at once while overweight.
/r/seduction07/07/22 01:01 AM
1

As long as it works for you. I still believe game is the great equalizer.
/r/seduction07/07/22 12:59 AM
1

A different personal view?
/r/seduction07/07/22 12:45 AM
3

I've shared details here and there but never written a full report. I start journaling recently to add more structure and cosistency to my game. Have you read any PUA books?
/r/seduction07/07/22 12:43 AM
4

F and kiss. I've also had number closes but I don't really count those.
/r/seduction07/07/22 12:41 AM
6

I've had 3 closes from 44 approaches. And that's as a rookie. No where to go but up!
/r/seduction07/07/22 12:39 AM
10

It looks like in-person cold-approach is slowly becoming a lost art thanks to online dating but I wouldn't call it obsolete. There's a wealth of information on the internet and a group of dedicated people on this sub here willing to help out when you have questions.
/r/seduction07/07/22 12:37 AM
7

Why would they not apply now?
/r/seduction07/07/22 12:31 AM
0

So that's.....10 women per year? Out of how many attempts?
/r/seduction07/07/22 12:01 AM
1

I'm struggling with this one too.
/r/seduction06/07/22 11:51 PM
2

Women tend to be easier when they know you're on vacation.
/r/seduction06/07/22 11:40 PM
16

Women (not all) tend to view it as a naturally occurring thing....because from their perspective, it is.
/r/seduction06/07/22 11:24 PM
9

Bring a handful of smarties and pretend they're ecstacy.
/r/seduction06/07/22 11:15 PM
1

Because she likes you, dingus! 🤣
/r/seduction06/07/22 10:06 PM
7

I'd say that goes for all women but the margin for error with black & latina women is noticeably less.
/r/seduction06/07/22 09:47 PM
2

At least a third of the women I've approached were black and I only managed to close with one of them. For background, I'm half black myself but don't really come across that way in appearance or personality. Wish I could contribute more here but I'm still trying to crack the code myself.
/r/seduction06/07/22 09:46 PM
1

Very good
/r/seduction06/07/22 08:35 PM
0

Perhaps it could but it depends on what exactly you're doing. Feel free to DM if you want.
/r/seduction06/07/22 05:16 PM
2

I understand. Just trying to guage if it's something women would notice.
/r/seduction06/07/22 04:55 PM
6

What are some ways to sexually escalate without coming on too strong?
/r/seduction06/07/22 04:50 PM
1

And what was your purpose?
/r/seduction06/07/22 04:32 PM
1

If you are consistently putting yourself out there with girls, will being on your purpose boost your chances?
/r/seduction06/07/22 03:25 PM
1

Think of them as Professor X and Wolverine then lol
/r/seduction06/07/22 07:41 AM
2

How do you who Mystery is but not Neil Strauss? They were basically the dynamic duo of pick-up back in the day. Neil published The Game in 2005 based on their adventures.
/r/seduction06/07/22 07:30 AM
2

If that's true....how was Neil Strauss able to replicate Mystery's success without his looks or money?
/r/seduction06/07/22 07:28 AM
0

Either it works....or it doesn't. That's the question
/r/seduction06/07/22 06:51 AM
1

Manipulative? As in.....the techniques he uses and teaches? The ones you said didn't work?
/r/seduction06/07/22 06:32 AM
2

I'm not saying you're wrong....but if Mystery's techniques don't work, then how was he getting laid so much?
/r/seduction06/07/22 06:16 AM
1

I understand. Do what you can. And the more women you talk to, the more you'll be able to figure out what works and what doesn't. I'm up to 44 approaches myself.
/r/seduction06/07/22 04:51 AM
1

Isn't that how George Bush met his wife?
/r/seduction06/07/22 04:10 AM
3

Yes. Pump the numbers up. And also try night game....if you haven't already.
/r/seduction06/07/22 03:51 AM
1

Of course not. Your worth is NOT defined by a group of strange women.
/r/seduction06/07/22 03:37 AM
1

My point still stands....unless you have no intention of sleeping with her again.
/r/seduction06/07/22 03:20 AM
0

No. We don't do blind trust here.
/r/seduction06/07/22 03:17 AM
6

I suppose it depends on the types of venues you frequent. If you find yourself in a Jazz club, for example.
/r/seduction06/07/22 03:13 AM
188

I hear dancing is a useful skill.
/r/seduction06/07/22 03:05 AM
2

Could you give an example of something he says to do that just.....doesn't work?
/r/seduction06/07/22 02:36 AM
1

Never self-depricate. You might think you're doing good by being honest & open but all she's hearing are reasons why she shouldn't hook-up with you. If the things she's doing are causing umcomfortable flashbacks, it might be best to just end the set, say "have a good night" and walk away.
/r/seduction06/07/22 02:34 AM
1

I always thought peacocking had more to do with dressing for attention in a way that fits with your personality/lifestyle. Take me, for example. I tend to wear graphic tees, but only for things I have a genuine interest in like my favorite movie & shows. That way I have somewhere to take the conversation when some says "I like your shirt." Where's the line between teasing and negging? I find that canned material can work but it's situational. If you try to force the conversation in a certain dir…
/r/seduction06/07/22 02:32 AM
1

I've been there myself and I know it feels like you've missed out on a grand opportunity.....but in a cosmic sense, you haven't. Each time you approach a girl, no matter how it ends, you can gain SOMETHING from it if you think hard enough. Something you can use to boost your chances with the next one. Also, what do you mean by more authoritative?
/r/seduction06/07/22 01:59 AM
1

How do you know they've never been relevant?
/r/seduction06/07/22 01:45 AM
2

That's ok. A lot of adult men are struggling with this. Here's what you have to realize......if the girl likes you enough, her friend's protests won't mean shit.
/r/seduction06/07/22 01:43 AM
7

I know it's scary but you need to approach more.
/r/seduction06/07/22 01:22 AM
1

Oh, that's it? I know it's painful but the more often you do it, the better you get at handling them and the more likely you are to run into groups who won't exclude you.
/r/seduction06/07/22 01:13 AM
5

The problem with a guy friend who flirts is that he'll want more 90% of the time.
/r/seduction06/07/22 01:10 AM
2

How many times have you tried and failed with groups? Do you know the exact number?
/r/seduction06/07/22 01:09 AM
4

Does gender matter?
/r/seduction06/07/22 01:05 AM
4

Just a friend?
/r/seduction06/07/22 01:01 AM
1

Sounds like a plan....and maybe try the local college while you're at it.
/r/seduction06/07/22 12:53 AM
3

Never
/r/seduction05/07/22 11:38 PM
6

Sounds to me like she's stringing you along......only time will tell.
/r/seduction05/07/22 06:44 PM
4

The trick is to talk to everyone.....that way they think it's just who you are. Also, make friends with the bar staff if you can.
/r/seduction05/07/22 06:34 PM
1

Have you tried the 3-second rule?
/r/seduction05/07/22 06:03 PM
2

Have you tried your local Hot Topic?
/r/seduction05/07/22 05:48 PM
1

"Yea. It's pretty nice."
/r/seduction05/07/22 05:45 PM
9

You proved all she has to do to keep the free validation going is up the ante on pics.
/r/seduction05/07/22 05:41 PM
3

Any particular reason she hasn't let you go all the way?
/r/seduction05/07/22 05:38 PM
1

I've seen this before.
/r/seduction05/07/22 05:38 PM
1

Women LOVE a man with options. As to how they keep finding out you have them.....I can't say
/r/seduction05/07/22 05:20 PM
7

Actions speak louder than words.
/r/seduction04/07/22 09:36 PM
2

Understandable. OP will get better with time and practice.
/r/seduction04/07/22 09:31 PM
5

Do....not.....follow
/r/seduction04/07/22 09:27 PM
7

Well...my experience has been a mixed bag. Just looking for something clever to maximize results.
/r/seduction04/07/22 06:49 PM
7

I just can't with you clowns 🤣
/r/seduction04/07/22 06:48 PM
1

I'm aware that there's no silver bullet that works on every woman.....but some things tend to get a better response than others.
/r/seduction04/07/22 04:59 PM
12

I can always can't on you with the good advice.
/r/seduction04/07/22 12:27 PM
5

Repetition
/r/seduction04/07/22 11:31 AM
1

I'm not much of a day gamer....yet. I'd say environmental openers are always better than scripted.
/r/seduction01/07/22 04:20 PM
6

The first set is always the hardest.
/r/seduction01/07/22 02:58 AM
2

Go for it!
/r/seduction30/06/22 08:31 PM
3

You should definitely cold approach......a lot
/r/seduction30/06/22 08:30 PM
2

Hmmm....how severe is your lack of experience?
/r/seduction30/06/22 08:24 PM
1

Always!
/r/seduction30/06/22 08:22 PM
7

I'm half black and I'm still trying to work that one out. Up until a couple months ago, I'd had some degree of success with ever race EXCEPT for black women.
/r/seduction30/06/22 08:14 PM
1

"Hey! Did you see those two girls fighting outside?"
/r/seduction30/06/22 06:41 AM
1

Yea. They've gotta be open to conversation to even attempt that one but the same goes for most techniques.
/r/seduction30/06/22 05:38 AM
1

Mysteries are inherently intrigueing. Try a guessing game regarding a topic about yourself.
/r/seduction30/06/22 02:43 AM
1

Fake time constraints are also a good idea if you truly only have a couple minutes to win her over.
/r/seduction30/06/22 02:20 AM
1

Then don't talk about dinosaurs 🦖 When you tell a woman you think she's attractive upfront, what's she's hearing is that you have no problem giving her free validation and from their she'll gladly milk you of your attention until she gets bored. If you want her to sleep with you, apply a bit of push-pull. Throw in a neg here and there (But don't go too mean). Environmental openers are better than scripted ones but either one is better than nothing. Something I find that works well is if you can …
/r/seduction30/06/22 02:19 AM
1

Do not compliment her looks without getting to know her first.
/r/seduction30/06/22 01:39 AM
1

And then she followed me to this post......or randomly found it and couldn't resist leaving a comment. I'm curious about why you're perspective is so different from hers considering you're both women who have presumably had your share of approaches from men you weren't interested in.
/r/seduction29/06/22 05:21 AM
4

Yea. What a lot of women don't seem to grasp is that the whole "let it happen naturally" strategy just.....doesn't work for most men. So we cold approach to give ourselves a chance.
/r/seduction29/06/22 05:18 AM
1

What future wife?
/r/seduction29/06/22 04:00 AM
1

It's something I learned from a wise old man
/r/seduction29/06/22 03:21 AM
3

It is always time and effort better spent developing new, fresh, prospective women than it will ever be in attempting to reconstruct a failed relationship. Never root through the trash once the garbage has been dragged to the curb. You get messy, your neighbors see you do it, and what you thought was worth digging for is never as valuable as you thought it was.
/r/seduction29/06/22 03:11 AM
1

Hard to tailor a solution without knowing what your current results look like.
/r/seduction29/06/22 03:05 AM
1

"Hey! Did you see that fight outside earlier? It works and bars and clubs. There doesn't need to be a real fight....just make something up and you've got their attention.
/r/seduction29/06/22 03:00 AM
4

What? Are you following me now?
/r/seduction28/06/22 09:57 PM
2

You can find the whole conversation here. https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/vm3sdd/the_number_1_reason_you_look_like_a_creep/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/seduction28/06/22 08:23 PM
3

I tried to get that point across but she insisted.
/r/seduction28/06/22 08:07 PM
5

Her reasoning was that a woman who hasn't made eye contact or smiled should just be left alone. She said guys should meet women through work and hobbies instead.
/r/seduction28/06/22 07:46 PM
5

With unrelenting claims that cold approach of any kind is a form of harassment.
/r/seduction28/06/22 07:21 PM
3

Well then you're a lot cooler than the last girl I spoke to about day game lol
/r/seduction28/06/22 03:23 PM
1

If you really want an answer....refer to my comment thread down below.
/r/seduction28/06/22 03:38 AM
2

I sent ONE DM thanking you for keeping it polite and respectful here in spite of us disagreeing. Is your intent to convince me or to embarrass me?
/r/seduction28/06/22 03:08 AM
2

Eye contact and a smile don't necessarily indicate interest.....it could mean she's just being polite. If you're suggesting that showing interest in response to a gesture of politeness is acceptable but showing initial interest is harassment.....then there isn't much difference there.
/r/seduction28/06/22 02:30 AM
2

True.....but for many men, the nervousness that comes with talking to women with non-platonic purpose can only be overcome with experience.
/r/seduction28/06/22 02:13 AM
2

Most men wouldn't get meaningful relationships OR sex if they didn't make a move. Regarding the last thing you said.....I'm not sure. It's tempting to say that men would accomplish a lot more if they weren't so focused on sex but if you look at our accomplishments as a species, you'll find that many have their roots in......guys trying to impress girls.
/r/seduction28/06/22 02:10 AM
1

Before we go any further.....what exactly do you think I'm doing and saying when I approach these women?
/r/seduction28/06/22 02:02 AM
2

Sexual harassment is never acceptable How can they develop social skills if not by trying (and failing) a lot?
/r/seduction28/06/22 02:01 AM
1

You keep calling it harassment when all I've done is talk to strangers in a social setting.
/r/seduction28/06/22 01:50 AM
2

You've made a lot of assumptions about me there. And do you think men who live productive & interesting lives aren't dealing with a ton of rejection?
/r/seduction28/06/22 01:49 AM
2

The answer to your first question is yes. To answer your 2nd question, I don't "expect" anything. I make each approach in hopes that it will lead to a fun conversation for both parties....and then sex as an added bonus if possible. I used to share the mentality of "don't bother her unless she shows interest first"......until one day I woke up and realized I was 25 and still hadn't my first kiss......switching up my strategy took care of that issue within a couple weeks and only then did I realiz…
/r/seduction28/06/22 01:45 AM
1

That's just the reality for the overwhelming majority of men. The best we can do is knock on as many doors as possible and try our best not to make it obvious.
/r/seduction28/06/22 01:38 AM
1

I was just making a joke. It looks like one of those username Reddit randomly assigns if you don't come up with your own when signing up.
/r/seduction28/06/22 01:27 AM
1

Those moments are rare and most men would stay virgins if they waited for something of that sort.
/r/seduction28/06/22 01:26 AM
1

I won't condone a lack of standards but what would you have a man a do when he gets turned down by the first 2-3 women he approaches? Just give in when there's still plenty of potential for success? My closing rate within the past year has been just over 8%. I had a really great time with those women....but that never would've happened if I accepted defeat after getting rejected by the first handful of women on those days.
/r/seduction28/06/22 01:24 AM
1

And you?
/r/seduction28/06/22 01:17 AM
1

What's the green light?
/r/seduction28/06/22 01:16 AM
2

What about bars and clubs?
/r/seduction28/06/22 01:01 AM
1

Well, I've never approached in any of those examples unless, like you said, it happened naturally. Not because I don't want to but because I find it quite daunting. Let's move on to next one you take issue with. "It's a numbers game"
/r/seduction28/06/22 01:00 AM
1

I agree that those avenues should be explored (within reason) but in doing so exclusively you're limiting your options. That total stranger in the bar could have the potential to be your best partner.....but you'll never know unless you explore it.
/r/seduction28/06/22 12:30 AM
3

How are men supposed to meet women if not by approaching?
/r/seduction28/06/22 12:15 AM
2

Ok....let's start with cold approaches....what's the deal?
/r/seduction28/06/22 12:01 AM
2

I'll hear you out. What's an example of something we're doing wrong?
/r/seduction27/06/22 11:49 PM
2

And you think there's nothing of value here aside from the LOL's?
/r/seduction27/06/22 11:45 PM
2

Everyone has their thing. How'd you get here?
/r/seduction27/06/22 11:39 PM
2

It's the internet. There's tons of less cringey things to laugh at.
/r/seduction27/06/22 11:24 PM
1

You need to capitalize on this before it's too late.
/r/seduction27/06/22 11:01 PM
32

OP is creepy.
/r/seduction27/06/22 10:59 PM
-1

If that's true then........why are you here?
/r/seduction27/06/22 10:59 PM
41

I've been unlearning that one myself. Never self-deprecate.
/r/seduction27/06/22 08:53 PM
-4

I want to help but I'd need to hear more about your experience thus far. Feel like DMing?
/r/seduction26/06/22 02:45 AM
6

Go for it! Focus on having a good time regardless of outcome and you can't lose.
/r/seduction26/06/22 02:30 AM
37

I'll be honest with. I had no idea there was some stigma about going out alone until very recently so I always just did it without a care. It worked just fine, I made friends easily with the other patrons and bar staff, and I had a few successes with women.
/r/seduction26/06/22 02:21 AM
1

You'll get there with time. There's so much power in validation once you know how to do it. It's insane!
/r/seduction26/06/22 02:16 AM
2

Maybe you're coming off like you're trying too hard? Women can sense that. You've gotta be relaxed and to a degree, you have to not really care how she responds. That's how you sell it.
/r/seduction26/06/22 02:04 AM
2

It's a shit-test.....and the way you pass it is to agree & amplify Her: You think you're pretty funny, don't ya? Him: I know I am. (Throw in a smug smile for extra points)
/r/seduction26/06/22 01:33 AM
1

You won't get there in a single day but you can bring out your inner extrovert by repeatedly talking to people. It'll be super awkard at first but you'll gradually warm up and it'll feel more natural. The trick is that you have to do it every day......or else you'll lose momentum.
/r/seduction26/06/22 01:26 AM
3

I've done it many times in the past year and I'd just like to echo the other coments about being friendly with everyone. It's a good form of social proof.
/r/seduction25/06/22 08:16 PM
5

It is always time and effort better spent developing new, fresh, prospective men than it will ever be in attempting to reconstruct a failed relationship. Never root through the trash once the garbage has been dragged to the curb. You get messy, your neighbors see you do it, and what you thought was worth digging for is never as valuable as you thought it was.
/r/seduction25/06/22 07:58 PM
41

Social proof, perhaps?
/r/seduction24/06/22 10:34 PM
2

It is always time and effort better spent developing new, fresh, prospective women than it will ever be in attempting to reconstruct a failed relationship. Never root through the trash once the garbage has been dragged to the curb. You get messy, your neighbors see you do it, and what you thought was worth digging for is never as valuable as you thought it was.
/r/seduction24/06/22 08:12 PM
0

What would you suggest then?
/r/seduction24/06/22 07:16 PM
3

Life's a game but it's not fair......I break the rules so I don't care
/r/seduction24/06/22 07:06 PM
-2

Is that so?
/r/seduction24/06/22 07:00 PM
3

You should rent an escort for the night.The hottest one you can find.....and have her pretend to be your new girlfriend.
/r/seduction24/06/22 06:06 PM
1

All in the game, yo!
/r/seduction23/06/22 07:02 PM
10

I agree with a lot of what you said....but then you made it out to be some mysterious thing. The reason "not caring" works is because it's a demonstration of high value. When it seems like you don't care whether the woman likes you or not....it indicates to her that you're a man with options.....and compells her to seek validation from you.
/r/seduction23/06/22 04:51 AM
13

So.....you just felt bad once it was over.
/r/seduction23/06/22 01:06 AM
1

It never ends 😎
/r/seduction22/06/22 08:47 PM
1

Keep it simple. Beer, pizza, and a movie is a great start!
/r/seduction22/06/22 08:28 PM
3

Very common. Get used to it.
/r/seduction22/06/22 08:15 PM
2

Although, so am I.....just more quietly lol
/r/seduction22/06/22 08:09 PM
1

Discovery is always better than disclosure.
/r/seduction22/06/22 07:50 PM
7

Why wasn't it worth it?
/r/seduction22/06/22 07:19 PM
1

Have you tried going to a bar and just socializing with other men?
/r/seduction22/06/22 07:07 PM
6

You're taking too literal. "Career" is just a stand-in for any productive activity you engage in and are actually good at. That gives you the natural confidence to counteract approach anxiety.
/r/seduction22/06/22 07:05 PM
3

You're everywhere! lol
/r/seduction22/06/22 07:02 PM
16

Sex feels good
/r/seduction22/06/22 07:01 PM
8

I met a girl like that once. Turned out to be super nice.
/r/seduction22/06/22 02:15 PM
4

What about her initially indicated bitch vibes?
/r/seduction22/06/22 01:59 PM
3

The woman in question is already swimming in compliments....if not in person than at least online. If you give her one too, it'll come across as boring and routine. Also, it tells her that you're willing to give her validation just for existing.....which comes across as desperate. Not a good look
/r/seduction22/06/22 01:43 PM
1

What about both?
/r/seduction21/06/22 11:05 PM
1

Well, have you tried going to a local bar or club?
/r/seduction21/06/22 08:20 PM
1

Have you tried asking some of your friends if their girlfriends know any single girls they could set you up with?
/r/seduction21/06/22 08:11 PM
23

A couple points here.... Compliments are one of the worst things you can do In my experience, women love to talk about their tattoos (shitty or not) You could always open with "Hey! Did you see that fight earlier outside?"
/r/seduction21/06/22 08:05 PM
6

This woman is radioactive.
/r/seduction21/06/22 07:57 PM
1

Numbers don't mean shit these days. Don't take it personally.
/r/seduction20/06/22 09:38 PM
1

You've got this!
/r/seduction20/06/22 08:46 PM
1

Go back and do it again if you can. Right now you've got some momentum and you can use it to gain experience.
/r/seduction20/06/22 08:45 PM
1

It's not about the outcome, it's about the process. Let me ask......how long has it been since you approached that girl at thr Manga section?
/r/seduction20/06/22 08:42 PM
1

You've already done it 5 times. What's 95 more?
/r/seduction20/06/22 08:39 PM
1

You will....in both good ways and bad.
/r/seduction20/06/22 08:36 PM
4

No, you will. It gets easier as you go along and becomes addicting.
/r/seduction20/06/22 08:25 PM
5

Great job! Pretty soon you'll have hundreds!
/r/seduction20/06/22 08:21 PM
3

I know what he meant and it's a common obstacle for women dating over 30. You'll encounter one of two types. First there's the men who genuinely want relationship with you but you'd see yourself as "settling" for them. And then there's the men you actually want who see you as hook-up material at best and instead go after women they perceive as better (and often younger) for relationships. It's not impossible to find a man who genuinely wants you for an LTR without feeling like you settled but it…
/r/seduction20/06/22 04:49 PM
0

Everything
/r/seduction18/06/22 08:59 PM
2

I wish I could offer something better than "just do it" but that's exactly what I did. Next time you find yourself in a party-like setting, have a few drinks and go up to a woman. If you're still nervous, environmental openers work better than scripted ones. Feel free to DM me for more information.
/r/seduction18/06/22 08:15 PM
1

I was once like you....finally figured it out at 25.
/r/seduction18/06/22 06:39 PM
1

First....how old are you?
/r/seduction18/06/22 06:30 PM
1

What's the difference aside from connotation?
/r/seduction18/06/22 02:02 PM
3

Mystery was a master pick-up artist. Perhaps the greatest in the world at one point. He published his strategies in a book called The Mystery Method.
/r/seduction17/06/22 01:52 AM
1

Lots of men your age are in that position.
/r/seduction15/06/22 09:44 PM
1

No glasses?
/r/seduction15/06/22 09:36 PM
1

Kevin Savo
/r/seduction15/06/22 09:21 PM
1

If he's not serious then why is he making a whole Reddit post about it?
/r/seduction15/06/22 09:11 PM
2

You can label it any way you want. Hopefully OP will do the right thing.
/r/seduction15/06/22 08:36 PM
22

Well, she's having sex with somebody.....and it ain't you.
/r/seduction15/06/22 08:34 PM
0

Oh yes it is
/r/seduction15/06/22 08:32 PM
3

Let me get this straight....she's wearing another man's shirt? A man she previouely had sex with? And you have to ask if there's a deeper meaning here?
/r/seduction15/06/22 08:32 PM
2

😈
/r/seduction15/06/22 05:23 PM
-6

No
/r/seduction15/06/22 05:13 PM
0

Pay more attention to their flaws....both physical and internal.
/r/seduction15/06/22 04:54 PM
2

This can only end in disaster if you keep it up.
/r/seduction15/06/22 04:54 PM
-1

I agree with most of that....except, don't take her to a nice restaurant on the first date and don't tell her she's beautiful.
/r/seduction15/06/22 04:49 PM
3

She already broke up with you mentally long before she said the words.
/r/seduction15/06/22 02:21 PM
1

Lucky
/r/seduction15/06/22 12:43 AM
2

And what happened with the other 25?
/r/seduction15/06/22 12:23 AM
1

America
/r/seduction14/06/22 11:45 PM
2

I'm 5'10 and I'd rate myself a 6/10 on a good day.....I suppose I could show you a pic in private.
/r/seduction14/06/22 11:20 PM
2

Not really lol.....although perhaps I will be once I get in better shape 🤔 Right now I'm mostly restricted to night game and I've had some obligations that prevent me from going out most nights.
/r/seduction14/06/22 11:03 PM
1

Really? I was able to close 3 out of 35 within the past year.
/r/seduction14/06/22 10:50 PM
2

Approach 100 girls and at least one of them will sleep with you....even if you're rail thin.
/r/seduction14/06/22 08:58 PM
1

Neil Strauss
/r/seduction14/06/22 08:51 PM
1

I hope so lol
/r/seduction14/06/22 08:44 PM
1

"Hey! Did you see that fight outside in the parking lot earlier?"
/r/seduction14/06/22 08:43 PM
4

What's your closing rate?
/r/seduction14/06/22 08:35 PM
1

Whatever experience you think she has....multiply it by 3.....twice
/r/seduction14/06/22 08:20 PM
1

Activation energy.....if you don't use it, you lose it.
/r/seduction14/06/22 07:53 PM
1

I was once in your shoes.....as for the confidence thing, you can fix that by finding something like and getting good at it.
/r/seduction14/06/22 07:49 PM
2

The gap isn't as big as you think
/r/seduction13/06/22 06:53 PM
1

In what way?
/r/seduction13/06/22 06:40 PM
3

Bullshit. I see tons of white chicks with black guys.
/r/seduction13/06/22 06:37 PM
1

And what are you?
/r/seduction13/06/22 06:34 PM
5

Neil Strauss was only 5'6
/r/seduction13/06/22 03:09 PM
2

That's an opener you can use. It doesn't even have to be a real fight....just something you made up.
/r/seduction13/06/22 04:51 AM
1

"Hey! Did you see that fight earlier outside?"
/r/seduction13/06/22 03:43 AM
4

Even if it does take that long, look at it this way....the time is going to pass no matter what you do.....now you can either be 30 and good with women or you can be 30 and exactly as you are now.....your choice
/r/seduction13/06/22 02:29 AM
0

Agree and amplify!
/r/seduction13/06/22 02:25 AM
2

It can work if you do it in a smart way. Just wearing the most ridiculous, attention-grabbing thing you can find will not yield very efficient results.
/r/seduction13/06/22 01:52 AM
2

Choosing the right opener, applying push-pull, peacocking, and other demonstrations of value. DM me for more
/r/seduction12/06/22 04:50 PM
1

Not if you say it like you mean it. DM me for examples
/r/seduction12/06/22 04:49 PM
2

Cold approach will work if you do it enough. And there's a ton of tricks you can use to maximize your chances.
/r/seduction12/06/22 04:08 PM
2

Experience and patience.....if a man has both, he can accomplish anything.
/r/seduction12/06/22 03:21 PM
1

Alright. If you can recall how it went...walk me through one of your recent approaches. Give as much detail as you can and I'll see if I can spot areas where something went wrong.
/r/seduction12/06/22 02:06 PM
49

If you had done it without wrapping it up, you would've busted immediately. And then you'd be sitting there with the risk of pregnancy and STDs hanging over your head while the sex itself was very brief and unsatisfying.
/r/seduction12/06/22 02:00 PM
1

I could help you but I'd need to know more about your process.
/r/seduction12/06/22 01:56 PM
1

Can be. I was going to suggest that OP use scripted openers until he gets comfortable.
/r/seduction12/06/22 01:47 PM
0

If you need a good opener, just go up to them and say "Hey, did you see that fight outside a short while ago?"
/r/seduction12/06/22 01:47 PM
1

Alcohol
/r/seduction12/06/22 07:21 AM
1

When in doubt......agree and amplify
/r/seduction12/06/22 07:14 AM
3

Is it just nerves or do you genuinely not know what to say when approaching women?
/r/seduction12/06/22 07:07 AM
2

Encountering a person in three dimensions is a totally different energy than just sizing them up behind a phone screen.
/r/seduction12/06/22 06:40 AM
3

How many approaches have you made?
/r/seduction11/06/22 03:25 AM
3

A woman's attraction floor is higher than a man's, all else being equal. It's a hard pill to swallow....but true nonetheless.
/r/seduction10/06/22 07:41 AM
3

I'm not arguing against that (mostly). My point was that the average man doesn't have the option to sleep around the way the average woman does. Not even close
/r/seduction10/06/22 07:28 AM
5

Experience. 20% is a rough estimate. Most men are invisible to most women.
/r/seduction10/06/22 06:58 AM
7

That's the top 20% of men. The rest are all fighting for scraps.
/r/seduction10/06/22 06:53 AM
2

You actually think most men are fucking like that? lol
/r/seduction10/06/22 06:16 AM
1

Social Proof is a helluva drug!
/r/seduction09/06/22 07:01 PM
1

This chick gets it!
/r/seduction09/06/22 05:18 PM
1

Ignore her for a while.....watch the attention shoot up
/r/seduction09/06/22 05:16 PM
2

She wanted attention....and she got it.
/r/seduction09/06/22 04:52 PM
1

How many approaches have you made?
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:09 PM
1

Have you tried meeting women through volunteer work?
/r/seduction08/06/22 03:11 AM
3

You can still win though. You're only 24 and not bad looking from what I see. Have you considered adjusting your age bracket?
/r/seduction08/06/22 02:26 AM
3

I figured....and there's nothing wrong with that. What you have to realize is that what happens to most girls at 18-22 doesn't happen for most guys until later in life.
/r/seduction08/06/22 02:10 AM
1

An incredibly rare opportunity fell into his lap and he got so excited that he fumbled it. He's allowed to be upset but now it's all on him to examine the situation and make lasting improvements to insure he doesn't make the same mistake twice.
/r/seduction08/06/22 02:02 AM
1

I would only advise doing it if she's giving you IOI's.
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:55 AM
1

I would only advise doing it if she's giving you IOI's.
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:54 AM
1

Older women are more direct....but there's still a game to be played.
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:53 AM
1

Ask once more after finals...and if it doesn't work, you're done and free to move on to better girls.
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:49 AM
3

You did good for the first solo night....but you'll need to take steps to refine your technique. Experience is key
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:47 AM
1

And what were you doing prior to then?
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:40 AM
2

Ok.....here's the thing about women.....when they hear a man has never had sex or kissed a girl or gone a date....it sets off an alarm in her head and begs the question..."No other girl wanted this guy, so why should I? What's wrong with him?" Now, I know it's unfair....they don't do it to be judgemental, it's just a biological mechanism. Now....that doesn't mean no girl will give you a shot if you're open about your lack of experience.....but it greatly diminishes your chances. Hope that helps
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:40 AM
1

What was your experiece like as a student athlete in high school?
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:34 AM
1

What types of places were you approaching at? And how did you go about it? Walk me through the process?
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:32 AM
2

Alright......bare with me for a moment.....how old were you when you decided to start looking for something serious?
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:32 AM
1

I'm seeing a wide range of comments here and well.....should I tell you the truth?
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:30 AM
3

Yea...there's a reason for that lol.
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:28 AM
2

Do you find that they're willing to sleep with you but tend to lose interest at the idea of starting a relationship?
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:25 AM
1

You know damn well what she's trying to do lol.
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:20 AM
4

Ok, here's the thing....compliments (especially ones about physical appearance) should only be given as a reward for something she's done for you. If she gets them just for existing....they have no value.
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:17 AM
1

Sounds to me like you've been texting long enough and need to set something up. Plan an activity that's cool to do alone but better with another person....then invite her to tag along. Girls prefer it when it seems like you're already doing a thing and they get to be a part of it rather than if you came up with something just for them. Best of luck!
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:14 AM
7

You should start giving IOI's.
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:11 AM
1

Very good. How long have you been at this?
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:09 AM
3

Yea. She has to value your interest to some extent in the first place for it to matter when you withdraw it.
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:00 AM
1

Let's rewind and talk about what happened that scared you off of cold approaching. You said you were worried about getting reported and/or kicked out for havimf a reputation. Care to elaborate?
/r/seduction08/06/22 12:49 AM
4

It's not unappealing to all men......just the ones you want.
/r/seduction08/06/22 12:41 AM
18

It's social proof. Basically....."This hot girl likes hanging around him so he obviously must be cool and fun to talk to."
/r/seduction07/06/22 02:12 PM
4

Do you have strong cop energy?
/r/seduction07/06/22 06:28 AM
1

Well...it helps if you have a hobby or special interest....doesn't have to be sports.....just something you can talk at length about with another person.
/r/seduction07/06/22 04:34 AM
3

For me, it came during a time of emotional stress. I just said "fuck it" and went for it.
/r/seduction07/06/22 03:47 AM
18

If you're having that problem at a bar.....then you should go to a bigger bar where you can skate from one girl to the next with very few people paying attention. And here's another thing....try to make friends with guys too....and the bar staff. That can make you look chatty rather than thirsty.
/r/seduction07/06/22 01:55 AM
2

It could. Depends on how good you are at that sort of thing. Here's the thing though.....if he can see that you're forcing yourself to laugh at his jokes, he'll take it as a sign that you like him.
/r/seduction07/06/22 01:36 AM
10

You gave her too much validation. It's like a prize you have to dangle in front of them constantly. Once they catch it....the game's over.
/r/seduction07/06/22 01:28 AM
2

Laugh at what he says....even if it's not funny
/r/seduction07/06/22 01:18 AM
2

Good luck
/r/seduction07/06/22 12:49 AM
1

So.....becoming a celebrity?
/r/seduction07/06/22 12:44 AM
1

You HAVE made progress though. I've made the same mistakes on my own journey. You learn with time and experience.
/r/seduction07/06/22 12:09 AM
1

Don't.....do that. I'm speaking from experience.
/r/seduction07/06/22 12:01 AM
1

I could help you. Wanna DM?
/r/seduction06/06/22 11:53 PM
1

I can't answer this one. Hopefully other comments are more helpful, but if not.....I hear there's a sub called r/DeadBedroom that specializes in this sort of thing.
/r/seduction06/06/22 11:16 PM
1

Well, if she genuinely adds value to your life then she may be worth holding onto.....just don't forget the nature of your relationship.
/r/seduction06/06/22 07:12 PM
1

Afraid not.....though it'll be interesting to see how she reacts when you stop giving her what she wants.....you will, won't you?
/r/seduction06/06/22 06:59 PM
1

She just likes the attention. When she meets her quota from you, she dips....then returns hours or days later to recharge.
/r/seduction06/06/22 06:07 PM
1

Asking out a co-worker is probably not worth the career risk. But if you're deadset on it, try looking her up on FB or insta to see if she has any hobbies or interests outside of work. You might see that she has a frequent hangout spot. So what you do is go there and when you see her, make it look like a total coincidence and get the ball rolling.
/r/seduction06/06/22 06:06 PM
2

Either lower your standards or raise your value.
/r/seduction06/06/22 06:03 PM
9

She's not into you. She just enjoys the attention your "friendship" brings. When you told her you didn't want to be friends and she kissed you....that was a hail mary to keep things going.....and you feel for it. I know that's not pleasant to hear but the whole idea of a woman not having sex with a man because she wants something real with him is a myth. If she's sleeping with guys and you're not one of them....it's over. All you need to do now is let her go and move on to someone you really do …
/r/seduction06/06/22 05:45 PM
2

How is it dated?
/r/seduction06/06/22 03:48 AM
1

You approach them the same as you would if they were your age.
/r/seduction06/06/22 01:58 AM
0

Seems like you're a big fan of Halloween lol. I'd like to see those.
/r/seduction05/06/22 03:54 PM
2

Seems like you're a big fan of Halloween lol. I'd like to see those.
/r/seduction05/06/22 03:54 PM
1

Sure. Feel like DMing about it? It seems like we're veering off from OP's topic.
/r/seduction05/06/22 02:57 PM
1

I find women's tricks to be calculating and manipulative as well. Just part of the game.
/r/seduction05/06/22 02:53 PM
1

What's wrong with escalating on the first meeting as opposed to the third? Isn't it up to decide what pace she's comfortable with? I do agree that trying it within the first few minutes is jumping the gun a bit, unless things are just naturally going that fast.
/r/seduction05/06/22 02:45 PM
1

I understand where you're coming from with negging and false intimacy, but please explain how escalation and testing of boundaries are bad?
/r/seduction05/06/22 02:32 PM
5

16? What kind do you have?
/r/seduction05/06/22 02:23 PM
1

You seem to know a lot about it....but can't provide an example?
/r/seduction05/06/22 02:20 PM
1

I know what PUA is. I was asking for examples of which tricks you had in mind and why you find then problematic.
/r/seduction05/06/22 02:16 PM
1

I had my first at 25. Hit me up in private and I'll talk you through it.
/r/seduction05/06/22 01:42 PM
8

Game is the great equalizer
/r/seduction05/06/22 01:34 PM
1

Here's what you can do. Set up a date for you and her to hang out in person, have her agree to it.....then totally flake at the last minute. Watch what she does.
/r/seduction05/06/22 01:07 PM
1

I've almost made that mistake before. You can minimize the chance of that happening by waiting it out to see if a man comes by. Now, by doing so you run the risk of another guy approaching first...and it also violates the 3-second rule, but.....that's the nature of the game.
/r/seduction05/06/22 01:02 PM
2

You said your friend is trying to join a frat....which leads me to believe you're somewhere between 18 and 24. How's my aim? Also, you've slept with under 5 women (let's say 4) and that's 1% of your approaches, that means you've tried with roughly 400. Now, if you're going out and approaching at least 20 girls once a week.....that adds up to 1020 attempts. Statistically, you'll more than double your success rate. In addition, are you just winging it or are you applying tried & true techniques?
/r/seduction05/06/22 12:59 PM
1

Do you have hobbies? Are you involved in any school sports or clubs? Girls want the top 20% of guys which is why athletes tend to do so well. But here's the thing.....it's contextual. The captain of the basketball team and the lead actor in the drama club are very different people (Unless it's Troy Bolton).....but they're both getting girls. My Adice: Find something you're good at that you can do with other people. Something with girls around...and they'll notice. Then make your move
/r/seduction05/06/22 12:46 PM
1

Depends on how you define direct. Example?
/r/seduction05/06/22 12:38 PM
1

I often encounter a few at my local bar starting after 10:00 p.m......sometimes even earlier.
/r/seduction05/06/22 12:28 PM
1

First time was at a crowded beach club. The high volume of women gave me plenty of oppoetunity to try.
/r/seduction05/06/22 12:27 PM
2

Yes, indeed. And don't ask to sit either......just do it. She doesn't own the chair next to her.
/r/seduction05/06/22 11:25 AM
1

What tricks? And why do you find them manipulative?
/r/seduction05/06/22 11:22 AM
2

Practice on girls you're not attracted to....like, at all
/r/seduction05/06/22 11:13 AM
3

As a general rule of thumb, I don't approach any woman who appears to already be with a guy. But if you absolutely must, try making friends with the guy first....that way he'll open up about the nature of the relationship (whether it be his girlfriend, friend, sister, etc.)
/r/seduction05/06/22 11:11 AM
2

If you haven't already, withdraw your attention and see what happens. Either she'll work to get it back or let you go.
/r/seduction05/06/22 11:01 AM
1

Yea. I have yet to come up with way of saying no.
/r/seduction05/06/22 10:58 AM
1

It's ok. Early on in my game, I approached a group of girls and introduced them to a cool new drink I'd discovered. We had decent conversation while I was buying a round for them but as soon as the drinks were in hand, they all walked off in unison. Not a big deal as long as you learn from it.
/r/seduction05/06/22 10:57 AM
2

It can. She'a grown used to your time and attention....so when you suddenly withdraw it, she feels compelled to gain it back.
/r/seduction05/06/22 10:53 AM
21

If she has visible tattoos, ask about them and lightly touch them to get the ball rolling. Obviously, don't try this if they're in an intimate place.
/r/seduction05/06/22 10:49 AM
1

You should read "The Game" by Neil Strauss.
/r/seduction05/06/22 10:47 AM
1

Something I've noticed is that if you seem to give her friend more attention than you give her, she'll feel compelled to compete for the sake of validation.
/r/seduction02/06/22 04:08 AM
-4

Always agree and amplify when she asks that.
/r/seduction02/06/22 04:00 AM
2

Environmental is always best. If you can point out something going on around you and her, go with that.
/r/seduction02/06/22 03:59 AM
1

Iron Man
/r/seduction31/05/22 06:56 PM
1

Don't do it! 🤣
/r/seduction31/05/22 05:58 PM
114

panties dropped
/r/seduction31/05/22 02:17 AM
6

Hmmm......had you still invited her, would it come with the implication that she's bringing her boyfriend along too?
/r/seduction31/05/22 01:22 AM
2

I was once in your shoes. We can DM about it if you want.
/r/seduction30/05/22 10:38 PM
18

I'm stealing that one!
/r/seduction30/05/22 10:28 PM
3

How old are you?
/r/seduction30/05/22 10:26 PM
54

I find that "hey" works better.
/r/seduction30/05/22 10:26 PM
152

Best openers are environmental ones.
/r/seduction30/05/22 10:25 PM
2

Yes. Otherwisw the chicks get bored and move on.
/r/seduction30/05/22 03:32 PM
2

Seems like you kept things steady when you should've escalated.
/r/seduction30/05/22 02:37 AM
0

I assuming you're over 30.
/r/seduction30/05/22 12:43 AM
12

I've experienced the same thing. Any theories on why older women are different?
/r/seduction29/05/22 03:35 PM
1

Do you talk to women?
/r/seduction29/05/22 03:29 PM
1

"Outdated" inplies that they used to work, so.....what changed? Looking for open discussion
/r/seduction29/05/22 03:26 PM
2

I would need to hear more about your situation before making a judgement. If you're not comfortable sharing the details here, my DMs are open.
/r/seduction28/05/22 12:45 AM
1

If that works, it works. As long as it's genuine condidence.
/r/seduction27/05/22 01:19 PM
2

You approach her the same as if you were hot.
/r/seduction27/05/22 01:14 PM
3

This guy gets it
/r/seduction27/05/22 01:01 PM
3

Are they good in bed though?
/r/seduction27/05/22 12:58 PM
127

Something happened in her life to lower her confidence and she tried using your attention to bring it back up. When women like a guy, they make the time to talk to him...even when it's very inconvenient. I once met a woman working as a nurse at the height of Covid. She would text me everyday from the hospital but once the attraction started to melt away, she was suddenly "too busy."
/r/seduction27/05/22 12:47 PM
12

He literally gave his age in the post lol
/r/seduction26/05/22 05:46 PM
6

You've taken your first step into a larger world. Feel free to DM me if you have questions.
/r/seduction24/05/22 12:23 AM
2

Are you familiar with the 3-second rule?
/r/seduction23/05/22 08:23 PM
3

Go deeper. Explain the process a bit more
/r/seduction23/05/22 08:12 PM
1

What's an example of one vs the other?
/r/seduction22/05/22 11:46 PM
2

I think what they're saying is the plethora of options on social media have raised women's standards...even in person. YMMV on if that's true or not.
/r/seduction22/05/22 11:41 PM
2

I'm kind of there myself and I assume we just become numb to the lows while still enjoying the highs. Dry spells come and go. Stay in the game
/r/seduction22/05/22 09:58 PM
1

Would you be willing to DM a pic?
/r/seduction22/05/22 09:40 PM
1

What do you look like?
/r/seduction22/05/22 09:28 PM
1

Will any topic do the trick as long as it's about her?
/r/seduction22/05/22 08:57 PM
1

Don't they prefer excitement over stability?
/r/seduction22/05/22 08:00 PM
5

Human beings often take for granted what they have in abundance. I love pizza but if I could only eat it once a year....I'd cherish the occasion a lot more.
/r/seduction22/05/22 07:41 PM
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