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The irony, my sides are in orbit
/r/MGTOW06/01/19 07:51 AM
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Red pill people fundamentally are not curious people. they fundamentally do not want to learn, only to confirm preconcieved notions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 03:27 AM
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Awesome man! Keep it up :) Is this intended as advice for others ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 03:22 PM
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This was about 12 years ago so maybe background checks weren't as big a thing then. (Not my current employer). Basically, absent some really strict required procedure, people in general don't use critical thinking as much on people who present themselves as confident, intelligent, and put together. (i.e. Confidence, easy, good-humored presentation is the optimal method to dissuade suspicion vs. the average person.)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 09:26 PM
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College majors really mean very little. I know married investment banking executives with english degrees, and one with a completely fake degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 09:05 PM
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Are you sure though? I don't know about morally speaking, but generally I find that flirting only works practically when there's indications of interest to begin with, prior to the flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 08:43 PM
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Can you elaborate? Are you referring to negging vs. flirting vs. showering with praise?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 08:24 PM
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I've flirted with the MGTOW fantasy that cosmically, reproduction doesn't matter, but since this is the only reality that we know exists, I can't deny it, evolution and sexual selection is important, and it's exciting, so let's engage in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 07:23 PM
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TRP has some good advice but it's more designed as a fascist, authoritarian indoctrination framework with built-in negatively-driven self-esteem boosters. They portray the "other side" as cartoonishly, impossibly stupid in order to create an "us vs them", "elite bro team" feeling. The whole TRP thing is designed to foster this feeling more so than to produce romantic success. It's a "Cheat to Confidence", similar to the bashing of minority races etc. to make people feel better about their shitty…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 07:21 PM
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Straw man arguments just make the padded cell you're in that much more obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 07:15 PM
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People aren't all the same and don't all operate romantically/sexually the same Showing vulnerability is an important part of confidence Conforming to macho social standards is total bullshit and a waste of time. Far better to work with genuine passion on things you actually care about, no matter what others think of them. Keep an open mind, meet new people, learn new things. Not only does it make your life much more fun and fascinating but it makes you far more flexible and resilient too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 07:13 PM
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Assuming that you are looking for the GOOD advice: Red Pill: Be physically fit as much as possible Understand that women are usually more engaged by indirect teasing and flirting games and will be put off by "autistic" straight-talk. Understand that women are attracted to confidence in men more than almost anything else. Confidence meaning steady emotions, consistent good attitude, making few mistakes, matching of words and deeds, commitment to goals and projects. Practice and improve social ski…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 07:10 PM
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The nice part, I agree, but it should be totally divorced from any sexual intentions--it should be nice for the sake of being nice alone and no other sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 06:59 PM
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This and a lot of other posts in PPD just seem like TRP/Incels trolling to annoy others, or fishing to indoctrinate others or get confirmation--not genuinely seeking discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 04:29 PM
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Not a function of health and fitness active choices, I should say. I know some skinny gym freaks cursed with permanent acne and/or rosacea.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 11:04 PM
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Being swayed by good looks is essentially an irrational, human weakness (inasmuch as looks are not a function of health and fitness). People are thereby often ashamed of it , and make platitudes against judging by looks--but there's not much use in denying or fighting our attraction to attractive people, it's a very strong in-built instinct. I don't think it's particularly gendered one way or the other. In romance, looks are a vital, indispensible element; their irrationality (essentially just s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 08:58 PM
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Exactly, I only ever see 'sjw' used as an insult against people who believe in equal rights by people who don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 01:20 AM
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Really no. Some men genuinely like to make or build stuff--businesses, tools, machines, art, money, etc--rather than "defeat" or "take".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 08:50 PM
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You haven't heard of AWALT?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 04:29 PM
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Red pill concepts I'll skip: I don't teach them that all women are the same, or that all men are the same, or that the only acceptable hobby is brazilian jiu-jitsu, or that morality is for losers
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 04:27 PM
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Men's basic nature is to get sex as often as possible with as little investment as possible, and to compete with, and defeat, other men. Guess I didn't get the memo, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 04:06 PM
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Red pill? No way. Critical thinking skills Assertive communication skills Accurate understanding of gender-based incentives (Sperm/Egg investment and selection, This is close to "red pill") Good health and fitness Help them find and build confidence in their own strengths, not just dabble meaninglessly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 04:03 PM
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Good luck with your trolling career.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 03:59 PM
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Opening a discussion with stereotyped slogans, labels, and slurs puts others into stereotyped defensive postures. If you genuinely want to have a debate it's not a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 03:57 PM
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Your OP is filled with alt-right jargon. You can start by dispensing with that. When I hear "Virtue signaling" and "SJW" from a person, I know that you care nothing for concepts of fairness, justice, or virtue, or consider them "beta weakness", so I disengage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 03:48 PM
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I think people are coming to this sub expecting TRP-levels of instant confirmation of their worldview
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 09:24 PM
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what they really want is for low value males to crawl away and die quietly Sort of, but keep in mind that low value is a relative term, and that attention is a desired commodity even from them. I was talking to a female friend at a party recently (29, single, urban PhD) and she said she likes getting whistled at/smiles from/clicks from/messages from guys she views as creeps/losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 09:23 PM
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That's really it for me. I see it more as the principles (like AWALT) are there but there's many mitigating factors. Especially the concept of 'alpha/beta' I've seen so much nuance in that that they never remotely acknowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 08:36 PM
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I agree. A lot of the redpill lessons are useful for both sexes but the trp people seem to aggressively push globalized misogyny and other hateful stuff for no reason, and they also seem to ban dissent which is a massive redflag. Overall it's similar to my problem with conservatism, entertaining the idea for a moment that conservatism is a coherent philosophy: unwillingness to good-faith-analyze new information, to meet people who might be different from those youve met before, to accept potenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 08:05 PM
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Surveys I've seen show that 90% of women prefer to be submissive while 50% of men prefer to be submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 12:08 AM
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There is no other choice of relationships, lol. Men are expected to be put-together and dominant and confident the majority of the time in ALL romantic relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 12:07 AM
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Assuming you are a sociopath who feels no guilt or empathy: You will probably have some more monetary/romantic success without morality, but only as long as you cover your tracks, which can be quite difficult to do. Being moral is a choice which if you do it you have to understand that it's an "aesthetic hobby" and is not productive or profitable in any way. Expecting kindness to pay off only makes you a Niceguy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 12:03 AM
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Speak with assertion and confidence and you will be amazed at how differently you are treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 04:06 PM
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That's what morality is: An aesthetic goal alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:14 AM
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Agreed, and it can't be changed either, you can just manipulate the inputs, or at best make a wrapper around that translates the instructions you give into the inputs it wants. It's a big obstacle, but at least it can be handled. On a higher level, Blue Pill is the only choice, you have to give the system what it wants or you don't get what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 08:26 PM
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That woman.exe concept speaks to me. There's a lot of continuously, unendingly frustrating irrationality with the current version and, looking back on stuff, the desire for a more logical, woman-who-behaves-like-a-man underlies a lot of fantasy media out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 08:22 PM
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There's multiple psychological surveys done that show that men are flat out more intersted in sex, and mroe different types of sex, than women. So yes, like it or not, it's on men to organize the activity as the interested party
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 07:49 PM
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Because many men like to hold a grand idealist fantasy, day-to-day, that whatever pro-social or genuinely morallly good things they are doing - being nice, working hard, etc - will be rewarded with opposite sex attention (Analogous to the inaccurate Trp concept of 'beta'), and that statment throws a brick at that fantasy and tells all those men "Your hard work and good morals will never get you far with me." Now for a genuinely moral person, they won't care, they won't ever link morals and sex, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 07:25 PM
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The confidence that comes from believing you are putting on attractive behavior is probably attractive. I agree and it's interesting that a lot of what works is a placebo effect. As they say, fake it 'til you make it where confidence is concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 07:28 PM
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Being fit helps, being social helps, but faking interest in traditionally macho activities doesn't, faking machismo definitely doesn't, and feeling like an angry victim all the time DEFINITELY doesn't. They occasionally give good advice to sort of "find your place in the world" which can be an excellent source of confidence, but that often gets buried under weird manipulation techniques, cult jargon, and "I'm being oppressed!!" political rants, It's a very mixed bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 07:26 PM
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I think this is a fundamental misunderstanding of facts with TRPers. They all assume women have secretly equal sex drives and that they are being slighted when women don't desire sex as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 07:23 PM
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Problem is someone always loses I'm starting to think that the real question in society, especially any degree of capitalist society (which I support), is what do you do with the frustrated, lonely, sad, or angry losers? Because they must lose, whoever they turn out to be, and those emotions are auto-generated for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 06:34 PM
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Why would they feel low value if they are not low value? People fucking love to feel oppressed, under siege. There are billionare mega-church leaders who claim that they are being oppressed. Even TRP gurus say "Men are oppressed victims!" all time ! In fact, telling people that they are undeservedly oppressed and under siege is a very powerful manipulation tactic, usable for anything from selling gold at inflated prices to getting votes to making religious cults.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 06:29 PM
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Have you read "Don Quixote" ? Nice guys are not new.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 06:26 PM
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I don't think your experience is so unique. As a guy, when I learned to tease girls on dates, my success rate went way up. It didn't make any sense to me because I was never very amused by teasing personally, but women seem to love it across the board.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 06:12 PM
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Yep. The neckbeards are in many ways just hipsters to the extreme. I've got a friend who is an incredibly smart guy but he Is obsessed with obscure philosophy and he goes around thinking everybody except me and him are idiots. He has got his ego tangled with his narrow interests and loneliness. The reality it its just not shared content for most people, nothing wrong with it, it's simply not shared, and if we want to talk about only those things we have to accept that few guys and no girls will …
/r/askTRP11/08/16 09:18 PM
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Great post, you outline social skills that for some reason took me ten years to learn. Nobody wants to listen to your obscure stuff that they can't relate to, so you must be able to have fun talking about ordinary stuff or stuff you're fairly confident you'll have in common.
/r/askTRP11/08/16 09:02 PM
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"Underrepresented" ? Ask yourself what assumptions you are making. "Underrepresented" compared to what? your fantasy utopia? Your are implying that the current state of reality is "unfair". Reality is reality. It is what it is because of the rules of the game of reality. People do not get what you think they deserve, they get what they can get by their own individual efforts or lack thereof.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/16 02:07 PM
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Thanks so much for the advice! Yes, I have been telling myself that it may take 1 year to see any difference or get to those guys' level but at this point in my life, i'm 30, I've tried the neckbeard lifestyle in the past and it was not fun. I'm ready to commit to being healthier whether it gets me more women or not, just for the nice little feeling of pride that one has physically challenged oneself and overcome each day and each week. I've been increaseing the weights slowly and slowly increas…
/r/askTRP21/07/16 02:32 AM
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Thanks so much for the well considered response and especially the encouragement. The meticulous workout planning is a little intimidating for me but so far I've found my routine challenging yet doable. My goal is to simply increase the weights whenever I can do 16 repetitions without struggling, and increase the cardio difficulty similarly, whenever i feel as though it's a little easy. I will work on goals however as you advise. Thanks again for really putting thought into something designed to…
/r/askTRP21/07/16 02:30 AM
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Random question since you seem to know about this, I've just started working out regularly, 3 weeks so far, and I've been going on a 20 minute jog at about 6 mph every single day. In addtion I've been lifting weights for 1h, 2x per week. Am I on track for a burnout or taking on too much at once? I have a lot of little simliar quesitons but not sure paying for a personal trainer to answer them is worth it.
/r/askTRP20/07/16 08:29 PM
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OK, so you came to an advice forum, and you disagree with the advice. No problem! Good luck and I hope you find what you're looking for.
/r/askTRP19/07/16 02:58 PM
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Everything has downsides. And yes, you would absolutely learn valuable social skills from being in a gang.
/r/askTRP19/07/16 02:38 PM
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I'll be more blunt. Casual sex helps you practice valuable LTR skills in: Shit test management Drama immunity Sexual performance (yes, it is a skill that needs practice) Confidence with women in general You don't have to be really big on casual sex, you can learn these lessons elsewhere, but it's just one way to practice all those skills, and in an LTR, you will be seriously and constantly tested.
/r/askTRP19/07/16 02:15 PM
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A lot of people in this forum tend to base their pride on being a gorilla type of guy who has lots of casual sex. That's fine, and you shouldn't judge them for it. A man chooses the meaning of his own life. I don't enjoy that personally, I'm more proud of other things that are not such easily forgotten and fleeting commodities as casual sex, but I cannot deny that the principles underlying the main ideas here are solid. The hypergamy principle, the management of shit tests, the necessity of bein…
/r/askTRP19/07/16 01:51 PM
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Make no mistake, being a true dominant is a lot more work and mental effort, even more emotional effort, than being submissive. You have to plan, you have to act a little, you have to consider the perception of your actions. If you want a reversal of gender roles where females are attracted to males who can't make decisions and have no plans, you'll have to go very far into the erotic fantasy community, far enough where men pretend to be women. It simply cannot be by the laws of our reality. You…
/r/TheRedPill15/07/16 08:31 PM
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Great post. This is dominance 101. Making the plans is attractive.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/16 08:21 PM
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Like most aspects of social skills in general, there is a lot of situational awareness and non-verbal nuance implied in these rules. If you only look at the title you do not understand what it means.
/r/askTRP15/07/16 04:16 PM
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70% of divorces are initiated by women. Studies in the US and UK have verified this.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 04:07 PM
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Yep. I've experienced both sides of this too. Another reason why the office grind is not a mentally healthy way to live.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/16 06:35 PM
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I've seen this with my own eyes. Dated a girl who treated her dad like a punching bag/money tree and surprise surprise, she kept pushing me in that direction until I dropped her. Thank god
/r/askTRP15/06/16 08:14 PM
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I'd reply to anything else she says with amused mastery like "lol k".
/r/askTRP04/06/16 12:03 AM
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I've tried very hard in my BP days and having a legitimately fun female friend is extremely rare to impossible. The closest I've got is a pen-pal housewife in another country who is into the same physically impossible "adult interests" that I am and we talk about it--in a flirty way, sending dirty stories etc--about once a month, and even then she will have random dramatic freak-outs once a year for no reason at all--at which times I simply do not respond. That's the only reason I am sure she's …
/r/askTRP02/06/16 08:45 PM
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Yup. I updated my OP with the final results.
/r/askTRP02/06/16 03:21 PM
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Exactly my thoughts, and it worked well. I added the full results in the OP. Really appreciate the fast responses. I feel like I'm slowly learning how to sniff out a shit test like the "how about tomorrow?" line she fed me.
/r/askTRP02/06/16 04:04 AM
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Did just that and it worked out nice, i posted the full conversation in the op.
/r/askTRP02/06/16 04:03 AM
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took your advice, it worked out great. Its a really nice feeling getting hot stuff delivered right to my door. thanks! I added the full conversation above for others' reference.
/r/askTRP02/06/16 03:59 AM
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I said tonight is better and it worked out perfectly, she came over, clothes flew everywhere etc. Thanks!
/r/askTRP02/06/16 03:58 AM
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That's what I figured so I just said "tonight is better." Will see what happens.
/r/askTRP01/06/16 10:51 PM
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Any advice on the right response? I proposed tonight and she said "does tomorrow work?"
/r/askTRP01/06/16 09:56 PM
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Thanks for the ideas. I proposed tonight and she said "does tomorrow work?" I'm thinking that a shit test and the answer is no.
/r/askTRP01/06/16 09:10 PM
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Thats what I was thinking, either dtf or some ego thing for her. What are some good responses?
/r/askTRP01/06/16 07:03 PM
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I've received the highway bj too. Well worth taking risks just for the pure fun of the experience.
/r/askTRP18/05/16 08:24 PM
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Playing the cop will get you nowhere. What's done is done and proves her attitude towards you.
/r/askTRP06/05/16 09:02 PM
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Meditate more. Past Failures are not predictive of the future. Each failure should make you less afraid of failure, and more confident in taking risks.
/r/askTRP06/05/16 04:29 PM
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Spontaneously, non-consensually hugging a girl takes a lot of courage and demonstrates a lot of confidence.
/r/askTRP01/05/16 04:46 PM
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I'm not sure why you're being downvoted. What you're saying matches my expereince.
/r/askTRP28/04/16 10:41 AM
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Sexual arguments like that completely suck and will infuriate you over time. This sounds like my last nightmare GF. It will only get worse. Dump her now, improve SMV, find a nicer and more cooperative GF.
/r/askTRP27/04/16 11:00 PM
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Yep it's amazing how girls will 110% of the time twist any breakup story to make themselves a victim
/r/TheRedPill17/04/16 04:06 PM
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I met women through my grad school exam tutoring, automatic status boost, but I enjoy that, what other people enjoy may vary. Try stuff out. Aim for something which (a) you enjoy and (b) either provides an automatic status boost or a relative status boost becasue you are above average in skill or rank. Is there a more low-investment way to do music? Could you play at bars solo etc?
/r/askTRP15/04/16 09:20 PM
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Excellent point, and very important to note. I learned this the hard way but it is absolutely true.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/16 09:20 PM
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Glad to hear it :) That was the attitude that broke me out of a year dry spell.
/r/askTRP02/04/16 11:50 AM
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"Creeping out" / "not creeping out" is in my experience more about properly recognizing IOIs and lack of IOIs. If you're unable to tell, you may come on too strong too fast. Focus on seeing how they react to your presence and your conversation skills. Treat all failures as a learning opportunity and an opportunity to be drop some of your fear.
/r/askTRP01/04/16 07:43 PM
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Online dating actually works pretty well IMO as long as you use a shotgun approach. What you say doesn't matter much as long as it's a little eye-catching. Just spam all the girls and you'll get some easy.
/r/askTRP01/04/16 07:42 PM
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My advice here is simple. Regarding failure to close with the opposite sex: "Failure is an illusion." When you try and fail, you may think. "Oh shit, I failed! I wasted my time, I wasted my effort, blood, sweat, money and tears. Woe is me." But that's actually wrong. When you fail, you gain things. You are less nervous, you care less about failure, you learned some things, you have less excessive expectations. Failing actually sets you up better to succeed next time.
/r/askTRP01/04/16 07:39 PM
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This is an advice sub and you flatly disagree with all the advice. What do you want?
/r/askTRP01/04/16 07:37 PM
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It's a few things: An exercise in self-control like any other, and also, you'll notice your aggression level increase when you don't do it for a while. Generally do it as much as you would eat candy, the costs/benefits there are fairly similar.
/r/askTRP01/04/16 07:33 PM
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What does NB and FNG mean?
/r/askTRP01/04/16 07:26 PM
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I'm starting to understand. So you still enjoy sex, you just don't relate it to your pride.
/r/askTRP30/03/16 12:11 PM
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Thanks, appreciate it! Saving this post and a couple other useful ones in this thread.
/r/askTRP30/03/16 01:59 AM
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Jumping in, I have to admit, the part about TRP that I find absolutely the most difficult is the "stop wanting sex in order to get more sex" concept. Any advice for overcoming this?
/r/askTRP29/03/16 10:25 PM
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That's what I really have trouble with philosophically. Picking a hobby in order to impress a girl seems to be putting girls on a pedestal, or at the very least putting girls above hobbies as a priority. While I do believe that will help a typical guy to pick up a girl, I can't do that. I'd more strongly recommend exercise, do hobbies that make you proud of yourself, and simply going to parties/concerts/bars a few times per week.
/r/askTRP08/03/16 02:56 PM
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"Do whatever you think is best " with a smile that shows you 110% don't care. No faking though, you have to be confident enough to actually not give a fuck. If she can see it in your eyes that you truly don't care, she will start to try to find a way to please you.
/r/askTRP01/02/16 10:43 PM
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Excellent point. I need to remember this one for the future, I ask too many blunt questions.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/16 06:37 PM
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For each of your hobbies, ask yourself some of these questions: Does it make you feel an enduring sense of confidence, capability, manliness and accomplishment? This is most important. Others: Does it improve your health? Is it useful? Does it make you new friends? Does it help you practice your speaking skills? Does it leave you with something you can show off to the average person? Do you just fucking love doing it and talking about it with people? Etc.
/r/askTRP05/01/16 05:17 PM
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Appreciate the thoughts. Before TRP I had this idea that I would just get to a point where I'd "made it" and could stop trying, so it's great to keep being reminded that success requires continuous conscious application.
/r/askTRP07/12/15 06:58 PM
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Will do, thanks. I've been practicing slow dread and I'll keep at it.
/r/askTRP07/12/15 06:50 PM
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People usually only post things on this forum that frame them as a hero.
/r/TheRedPill30/11/15 01:20 PM
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From what I've seen, on the man's part it's basically a fetish. Irrational biologicaly stimulation. They often frame it as them being a pimp
/r/TheRedPill17/11/15 12:09 AM
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Everyone has to decide for themselves if it's worth the effort. God knows 24.7 potato chips and video games feels great. But just think of the arabs and mexicans beating their women and multiplying like rabbits while europeans, japanese, and americans die childless.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/15 08:39 PM
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The best RP advice I've read was "Play for the love of the game." Applies to so many things.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/15 08:37 PM
1

Do a lot more dating, and also do more picking up girls that is not "dating". Many lessons can't fully be expressed in written words but it's a matter of learned intuition. Do not be discouraged by failure because every failure teaches a lesson and removes a little fear. Aim for making out as soon as possible. Learn how to "glide up the kino curve", escalate physical contact smoothly and naturally. Sounds like you might be focused a little too much on being a people pleaser / entertaining the gi…
/r/askTRP10/11/15 08:15 PM
1

We cannot tell you what the goal of your life is. you haev to decide it for yourself.
/r/askTRP10/11/15 07:54 PM
2

Drop her and find a more loyal girl. Very worth any short-term awkwardness, trust me.
/r/askTRP04/11/15 01:01 AM
1

Right. Freak out is an action which speaks "I am afraid, I am weak." Easier to just own your stuff.
/r/askTRP29/09/15 01:07 AM
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I think the issue is that you were too obviously and desperately trying to hide something which makes people nervous. I've learned that if you are really trying to hide something it's more about not raising suspicion that concealing evidence. Ultimately you should not be desperate to hide anything .
/r/askTRP28/09/15 03:51 PM
1

I can confirm, I've tried both OP's response and this response. Agreed that the go-to-fucking reaction, while seemingly admitting defeat, in the end works out better because you establish more dominance by fucking her than by getting all huffy and grumpy and making her leave.
/r/askTRP13/08/15 04:54 AM
1

Very interesting. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. I'll experiment with these principles and see if they hold up.
/r/askTRP07/08/15 08:59 PM
1

That's an interesting perspective. A lot of people in this forum are saying if the girl doesn't pounce the guy then she's using him somehow. As a man I like being the dictator of sex tho.
/r/askTRP07/08/15 07:18 PM
3

It's scary how identically this matches my expereince in a certain nerd subculture with well-deserved ridicule. It's like you just changed the names....So glad I found TRP. I was deep in the subculture and one day a female friend, with whom i was working on an art project purely out of my creative interest, out of the blue suddenly said "Come over to my place...my husband won't mind". I remember feeling sick and saying fuck no. She hated me immediately after that. That was the beginning of the e…
/r/TheRedPill07/08/15 05:37 AM
2

Economic modeling
/r/askTRP01/08/15 04:44 AM
10

I'm 29. I make well over 100. I have a gf and as much of the female charms as I want. Wrk 9-5, gym 5 days a week, I go on adventures every weekend. Life is pretty good. Do I still have nerdy dreams about what life would be like if I was a space pirate captain? Yes. But life is pretty good.
/r/askTRP31/07/15 09:34 PM
3

The guys who made the books all did the same thing. They approached a lot of women and did a lot of experimentation, trial and error, and adapted a style suited to their own personalities. Whatever approach you take, you'll need to do a few of the above.
/r/askTRP27/07/15 11:49 AM
2

It is absolutely possible to begin with a woman who says "I'm not in the mood" and turn her on so that she's begging to be fucked. It's mostly practice and experimentation, but it takes a cheerful yet firm attitude, grace, and flexibility on the part of the man. As other guys are saying it's a lot easier to just dump her and look for a more submissive girl. That choice is up to you, but to 'sculpt' a girl's sexuality can be quite a satisfying experience.
/r/askTRP27/07/15 11:20 AM
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It does sound like you took the RP advice and became too rigid and grumpy and angry. Your ability to analyze your own mistakes is very good and absolutely vital to a good life in the future. A lot of people NEVER can look at their own mistakes and you're better than that. My advice is let this relationship fade away and work more on being able to manage your own anger into a more controllable state, where in the future you'll be able to use it to project firm, father-like boundaries, where you p…
/r/askTRP27/07/15 11:14 AM
2

I'm surprised people here aRe not answering this right. Men are attracted to appearances more, women are attracted to behaviors more.
/r/askTRP26/07/15 07:15 PM
1

I waffled on this when I first started but I ended up dropping most of them. Take a hard look at the pros and cons of each relationship and ensure it's worth your time vs. all the other stuff you want to do.
/r/askTRP24/07/15 01:33 PM
3

As a reward for good behavior on their part, in an LTR, and sometimes while in bed, yes. You need to put the reading down and start practicing though.
/r/askTRP23/07/15 09:26 PM
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You will know the specifics better than any commenter here. The guideline I recommend is you want to make an early or first meetup like this as smooth as possible. Avoid a lot of long travel time as it can be awkward if you don't know the person well yet. If her place is closer, plan on that and think about ASDs she might say and how to good-humouredly bypass them, have a general plan for how you're going to escalate physical contact over the evening, and be ready to segue to different plans as …
/r/askTRP23/07/15 09:24 PM
1

Pickup, being in your car helps with frame and is a very convenient private location for making out and other stuff. However, since it's a long drive, consider that she might flake. I would not admit it's a long drive. Long term, all else being equal you should live in a city and avoid far away dates/hook ups.
/r/askTRP23/07/15 08:59 PM
1

That third bullet is so important. The most important thing I've learned on my TRP path has been that all advice is context sensitive. "Holding Frame" in particular, the decision whether to laugh something off, push forward gracefully, withdraw quietly, or be firm and demand something, can vary widely depending on context and no amount of instruction-following can help you, there has to be experimentation and failure and iteration. Most of "Good Frame" is inexpressible in recorded knowledge.
/r/askTRP23/07/15 08:19 PM
1

I teach part time as a tutor for a test prep company. I get to be right 100% of the time and it's fun.
/r/askTRP22/07/15 05:19 PM
1

I have been getting the impression that she has been pushing the victim hood a little past it's due date . I will be more gentle about my push backs thanks.
/r/askTRP21/07/15 06:06 PM
1

Ok. Thanks for clarifying.
/r/askTRP21/07/15 06:05 PM
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I was being serious. Anyways since I've got 2 people scolding me I'll try to be nicer to her. My goal is to build a strong frame . The idea of carrying a girl's purse for her just seems so shameful to me.
/r/askTRP21/07/15 05:48 PM
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She was bed ridden for 12 days. This pisses me off because before I read up on TRP I would have absolutely done that without question and now apparently I'm an asshole for trying to do what's right. Anyways you're probably right, thanks for the reply.
/r/askTRP21/07/15 05:46 PM
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I've seen exactly what you describe many times. My theory is that it's a survival of the fittest thing. Females spray these bullshit notions at nearby males to see if they will absorb it and wither or stand strong with a thick skin. They are not aware they are doing this, it is just an instinctive thing.
/r/askTRP21/07/15 05:44 PM
1

You're taking yourself too seriously. One of the best TRP posts I've read on here is everything you do in life should be done "not win or lose, but for the love of the game". Think of it that way. We all get 1 life. Relax, experiment, enjoy yourself.
/r/askTRP21/07/15 01:37 PM
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Got it.
/r/askTRP20/07/15 11:07 PM
1

Appreciate the thoughts. In reality, this other girl, I feel, is trying to orbitize me, but GF is erroneously taking it seriously. Maybe it's better to just ignore the FF.
/r/askTRP20/07/15 09:13 PM
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Noted, thanks.
/r/askTRP20/07/15 09:02 PM
2

it's an abbreviation for aspergers which means in this case an obsession with minutiae and little facts and logic
/r/TheRedPill20/07/15 08:46 PM
1

I found the "Daniel Rose" book really helpful in this regard. Read it and try using semi demeaning terms of endearment like "dog" or "duck" etc. and think of them as an amusing pet who is easily replaced but loveable to some degree nonetheless.
/r/askTRP20/07/15 07:32 PM
2

Some men split up the type of women they are actually attracted to and the type of women who they hope will impress the rest of society. It's another variety of confusing what you want vs. what some random social trend is. It honestly sounds like you've done that here. One common type is men who like fat girls but are shameful about them. If you are going to do an LTR you better get "your type" -- fat, skinny, tall, short, black or white etc.
/r/askTRP20/07/15 07:09 PM
1

It takes time. TRP is really about trying out the recommendations in real life, seeing what happens, seeing what techniques work best for you in various situations. You can't learn it just by reading. You have to read, practice, think, reread, practice, etc
/r/askTRP17/07/15 03:26 AM
1

By drugs I mean prescribed medicine
/r/askTRP19/06/15 10:07 PM
1

Thanks, this reply means a lot. I'm slowly understanding RP better. It's not just "say no to girls as a magic trick to make them like you" it's more "say no to things that are a waste of your life because life is short."
/r/askTRP19/06/15 06:28 PM
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Yeah that's why I had that feeling of being played, she wasn't making an effort to do pretty much anything at all. I'll start withdrawing first chance I get.
/r/askTRP19/06/15 01:51 PM
1

This advice makes sense to me. I need to reduce the time I'm spending with her and let her family do the nursing.
/r/askTRP19/06/15 01:47 PM
1

The issue is that I felt like I still didn't know her very well when she started getting super sick (2 weeks into dating). I feel like it takes 6 months at least to get to know a person well.
/r/askTRP19/06/15 01:46 PM
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Yeah, next chance I get, I'm going to have the conversation with her, I don't want to be an unpaid nurse
/r/askTRP19/06/15 01:44 PM
1

You notice it via her actions and reactions yes. It is never easy and depends heavily on the individual man and woman and surrounding situation but you can build experience with it over time and learn successful ways to tease away a woman's complaints and excuses. If she's repeatedly bringing up a mistake you made, maybe there's a way to make it into a joke, or ignore it . You can't dispute what she's saying or bring up her mistakes as that would be arguing, so you aim to create new happy moment…
/r/askTRP17/06/15 10:00 PM
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One thing I've learned from my small experience in ltr is that the only way to recover from one of these subtle mistakes is to build up a series of subtle wins over time without seeming upset or frustrated or sorry at all. It is very difficult much more difficult than spinning plates etc.
/r/askTRP17/06/15 04:43 PM
1

Thanks for the thoughts, much appreciated. reading rp has absolutely motivated me to get more exercise and think about smv. Since I'm kind if new to this whole rp ltr thing here is another question. We planned to go to one of her orbiters birthday parties tonight. She says come meet me after work (we both do 9 to 5) and when I get there she is hanging out chatting with the orbiter guy at her place. I feel pissed like im ready to give her a serious warning or even next her -the concept that 1 on …
/r/askTRP12/06/15 10:54 PM
2

You're right, I am going to the gym plenty but I'm a little fatter than I would like to be and struggling with that somewhat. Ironically this week I have been getting texts and calls from a great plate I had at my previous city. I wonder if there's a way to communicate that to the GF to emphasize my value without being an asshole.
/r/askTRP12/06/15 01:22 PM
2

Fair point. I need to be more confident in myself worry less about external factors.
/r/askTRP12/06/15 01:20 PM
1

Appreciate the thoughts. I have made those comments while we have been watching those TV shows and will continue to do so instead of in an outburst just because she announced this dumb 1 night business trip. The concept of establishing standards and boundaries makes sense, I still need to work on that and am not doing as great at it as I'd hoped, for some reason I come up with excuses like "well gf has been in the hospital earlier this month so I guess it's OK if I walk to her place rather than …
/r/askTRP12/06/15 01:17 PM
1

This advice makes sense to me. How bluntly should I communicate my disapproval of cheating to the woman? I'm tempted to say something like "If you cheat, I don't care how cute you are, or how many facebook photos etc, I'm going to know, and I'm going to be completely done."
/r/askTRP12/06/15 12:59 PM
1

Still love the Grateful Dead. While the story teller speaks, a door within the fire creaks, Suddenly flies open, and a girl is standing there Eyes alight, with glowing hair, all that fancy paints as fair She takes her fan and throws it in the lion's den Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell? I will not forgive you if you will not take the chance The sailor gave at least a try; the soldier, being much too wise, Strategy was his strength, and not disaster The sailor, com…
/r/askTRP09/06/15 11:42 AM
1

ignore trolls like walrus above. The way to do it is through focused practice. Go out and do what you are afraid of. i'm far from perfect but I've come a significant way from a point where any stupid pop song played loudly enough would make me cry. I just decided I was going to take every opportunity to join a social event/go out/etc and over time, stuff like that affects you less.
/r/askTRP16/05/15 06:31 PM
1

From my very limited perspective, you sort of just dispect the ways of the world a little bit more, and are slightly better at getting thigns to go your way. You just expect less of things and get mroe of what you want. You will still make small and large mistakes occasionally but you know how to recover better.
/r/askTRP04/05/15 02:16 AM
1

Haha nice.
/r/askTRP15/04/15 01:14 PM
1

I will respectfully disagree. Her request seemed frivolous and princessy to me.
/r/askTRP13/04/15 07:48 PM
1

Makes sense. I will keep this in mind thanks
/r/askTRP13/04/15 07:47 PM
1

I have used the trp rule of 2/3 ratio and my experience has shown to me that it is helpful. 9 some level I believe in bp concepts of honor and generosity but I am out of time in my life to be naive so I am doing what seems to be working
/r/askTRP13/04/15 07:47 PM
1

This is really helpful thanks
/r/askTRP13/04/15 07:45 PM
1

Thanks for this really well thought out post. I noticed that I cancelled a hike I wanted to do in order to go to the beach this weekend with her (although I wanted to do that too) so I'll increase the priority on that to #1 next weekend.
/r/askTRP13/04/15 07:45 PM
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Can only speak for myself: I find it unattractive if a girl has large number of guy friends . Whether or not she has girl friends I couldnt care less. Regarding outgoingness, it can be perceived as attractive if a woman approaches a man ratherror than vice versa, personally I don't care either way
/r/askTRP13/04/15 04:32 PM
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I'm not really sure what you're asking. You find him attractive, what is the downside you are worried about?
/r/askTRP13/04/15 12:18 PM
1

Oh! Didnot know that.
/r/askTRP10/04/15 10:02 PM
3

Self improvement is always good. You should do it for yourself and no one else.
/r/askTRP10/04/15 08:20 PM
1

This is not a forum for advice for women. /r/redpillwomen/
/r/askTRP08/04/15 02:33 PM
2

Thanks, maybe im overthinking all this Red Pill stuff. I did manage to not complain about anythign, and be in a good mood, and that seems to work well regardless of what happens, so I will keep at it.
/r/askTRP04/04/15 11:31 AM
1

Thanks, maybe im overthinking all this Red Pill stuff.
/r/askTRP04/04/15 11:31 AM
1

Trp does not hand you goals or morals. It only teaches you what works and what does not work. all our goals come from irrational emotions. All of them. Accept that, pick a goal and use a realistic method to achieve it. Want a ltr? Do not pick a slut. Want crazy sex? Pick up slots BUT be prepared to deal with more drama and more work finding new ones as they come and go. Want to fall in love? Do NOT do this until you better understand the conditionality of women's love. Want children ? Better be …
/r/askTRP02/04/15 07:02 PM
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The way I see it there are 2 ways. To be objectively interesting, try any activity that involves building something until you find one you like. Gardening, coding, art painting, whatever, Di it find some friends and be proud. and/or you can go by a girl's definition of interesting: be in several clubs or social groups with at least one as an officer or leader.
/r/askTRP02/04/15 06:58 PM
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Just approach a lot of girls. You'll fuck up plenty but whatever. If you can't think of an opener just say "hi what's your name?"
/r/askTRP31/03/15 07:25 PM
2

This advice speaks to me the most. especially the part about being mysterious and avoiding overt demands / ultimatums. As an analogy, I've fucked so many girls where at first they would slap hands away from their pants saying they "didn't feel comfortable yet" but I slipped in later while pretending to do other stuff or by pretending to get bored and prepare to leave. It fits with the concept that you cannot change a slut and that attraction cannot be negotiated or nailed down. If this girl real…
/r/askTRP31/03/15 03:24 PM
1

Tha ks for the most thoughtful response so fsr.
/r/askTRP25/03/15 11:23 AM
1

That's an interesting idea. I will work on the high expectations thing and ignore the whimpering more , it distracts me but I shoukd be able to overcome it .
/r/askTRP15/01/15 02:06 PM
2

Nice analogy lol. It's something I have been thinking about. I get recruiter emails every day so maybe I will take a look.
/r/askTRP15/01/15 01:07 PM
2

Try once or twice. If you succeed, great. If you fail, good because you can move on with confidence. But don't keep waiting around. Set a date and a situation where you will clearly and unambiguously ask her out for drinks etc. and take her answer yes/no seriously. (2x flake = no.)
/r/askTRP15/01/15 04:26 AM
0

You're citing examples of people forming hierarchies to prove that people don't naturally desire hierarchy . Good luck with that.
/r/TheRedPill11/12/14 10:16 PM
1

Thanks for sharing your story. It reminds me of my biggest temptation to pathetic nerd rage. Sometimes I start thinking "women Should love the men who love to contribute their technical work to civilization" I need to beat this notion out of me somehow. I keep getting tempted to think "life should be fair" although I know there is never any possible standand of "fairness".
/r/TheRedPill11/12/14 09:47 PM
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That's an interesting thought. Are you implying that in a harem-type society, most males are too distracted with anger and lust to focus on things like engineering ?
/r/TheRedPill11/12/14 07:43 PM
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Start by simply doing the work you are asked to do. Ask around for help and find the people who like to help, and make friends with them. Always be kind to people of lower rank. Do the most extra work for the person who can best help you back. (Usually boss, sometime a higher ranked guy.) If you meet someone with better skills and knowledge than you, resolve to become his student and friend and supporter no matter how upstaged you might feel. Always be cheery and good humored. Never ever be in a…
/r/TheRedPill11/12/14 07:21 PM
1

My experience says that that is just a feel-good line that girls say to themselves for themselves and doesn't really have any impact on anything.
/r/TheRedPill08/12/14 08:28 PM
2

Thanks, I had forgotten the advice to make it seem like you were going to do the thing anyway. I'll do that next time and cancel with this one.
/r/askTRP02/12/14 03:12 AM
1

Dunno, maybe it's beacuse I'm just unattractive. I've had a medical problem for a while that prevents exercise, hopefully it's almost healed.
/r/askTRP02/12/14 02:05 AM
1

Appreciate the thoughts thanks.
/r/askTRP01/12/14 12:26 PM
1

Appreciate the thoughis thanks.
/r/askTRP01/12/14 12:26 PM
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Ive gotten very slightly better at it since finding TRP 6 months ago. Like so many TRP things, it just gets better slowly with practice. Basically, just practice not looking at them or not paying attention to them, start by pretending you have something more important you are thinking about. Simply not looking at them unless absolutely necessary can give you a small but measurable better feeling of control. You can also try thinking about how the average Joe would be falling all over himself in …
/r/askTRP27/11/14 04:00 AM
1

Got her to agree to Wednesday night just now, a wine bar near my place, and insisted she pay because it was her idea, making her laugh. Thanks again for the tips guys.
/r/askTRP31/10/14 03:34 PM
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As I get older and more experienced I see this more and more. When I was a kid I stifled my desire to say hi to cute waitresses/girls on the train, absolutely certain somehow it would be "sexual harassment" and I would be a creep/be put in jail. then I was routinely baffled and humiliated and angered when good-looking guys would do the exact same thing and be met with giggles. I struggle to remember even now how that idea got into my head.
/r/TheRedPill31/10/14 01:42 AM
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I say start (very quietly) looking for a new job, in a better city if you need that. Then, start from square one, using all the tools in this book, when appropriate. http://cgt411.tech.purdue.edu/covey/48_laws_of_power.htm
/r/askTRP25/10/14 07:05 AM
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/r/thebluepill
/r/askTRP05/10/14 03:01 PM
1

I want to warn here that from the TRP point of view that is is very important to have at least 1 of your 1-3 hobbies that is appreciable by women: something athletic or socially status-giving. If you want to stay up all Saturday night birdwatching or coding, by all means do it, but also join a running club, windsurf, or teach a class.
/r/askTRP05/10/14 02:55 PM
3

I would give ALL MY MONEY to have learned about TRP at your age. You have so much youth ahead of you. A man's peak years are 29-32. You have 10 years to completely rebuild yourself. Make your plan and you're golden!
/r/askTRP05/10/14 02:53 PM
2

This is very good advice. I learned this late and the hard way at the age of 30. It's not enough to love something or even to be passionate about it, you will still be overlooked by others as invisible unless you achieve a position IN that activity that is widely and publicly appreciable and respectable. I have hobbies that I absolutely love, and that are extremely creative, constructive, and fun, but they are shared only by a small group of worldwide enthusiasts online. I was pouring entire wee…
/r/askTRP30/09/14 07:08 PM
2

Am writer, can confirm, made this mistake, keep it mysterious.
/r/askTRP30/09/14 06:50 PM
1

I'm slowly starting to understand the idea of maintaining frame. It does sound like the goal is to simply not feel the annoyance or anger in the first place, or if you do, to mask it completely.
/r/askTRP30/09/14 06:25 PM
1

I think I can imagine what you're saying. Instead of thinking, "This b___ is disrespecting me", I should think, "she is so silly, therefore I will tease her." Is that the right idea?
/r/askTRP30/09/14 06:14 PM
2

Just ask her out like any other girl. Remember not to get hopes up or fixated on any one girl.
/r/askTRP30/09/14 05:59 PM
2

The whole point of TRP is that you may need advice, but you never need "help". You learn, through advice and observation, to help yourself.
/r/askTRP30/09/14 05:58 PM
4

Excellent advice. I'm still in TRP transition, building up a part-time tutoring business in addition to my full time job while struggling to eliminate useless temptations. Recently I had a few days off work from both jobs and spent some 36 hours playing an RPG video game. Then, when I finished, I just sort of sat there and realized how pointless it all was. I was so happy I built up this pointless little collection of numbers. I realized, I could easily have cheated at the game and achieved some…
/r/TheRedPill15/09/14 03:39 PM
1

I had the exact same experience. At 29, I am slowly internalizing these truths. It is never too soon or too late to learn from your mistakes.
/r/TheRedPill11/09/14 05:36 PM
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You're still stuck in the "treat others as you want to be treated" bullshit. Females and males want to be treated in different ways. Start dealing with it.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/14 09:15 PM
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It's a divide among TRPers. The more PUA-type guys like sluts because they give lots of sex, the more conservative-type guys hate sluts because slut culture makes every girl slightly more disloyal and a worse option for a wife. As a civilization-oriented TRPer, I lean towards the latter, slut-shaming view.
/r/askTRP02/09/14 12:21 PM
1

Great post. Also note, for those who are mad: Don't be mad. It's not a universal constant. Ants, arguably a more efficient life form than people, only send old females to war, since they are the most disposable.
/r/TheRedPill02/09/14 02:59 AM
1

Agreed. Romantic idealism of all flavors is really the root of so much blue pill bullshit.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/14 03:43 AM
4

Controlling my anger has been my first and so far only complete red-pull success. It's improved my life significantly. The ways I found to control anger were: Disengage, shrug, take a walk. Think about how none of this shit really matters, and the only thing that matters in life is your own mission. Realize that if you think somebody is disrespecting/making you look bad, becoming angry will ALWAYS make you look even stupider, but staying cool makes them look petty.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/14 03:40 AM
1

Exactly. Great point about careers. When I first found TRP back in April, I slowly realized how it helps hugely with office politics, and gives you a great model simply for being more confident in every decision you make. I love how TRP forces you to ask yourself "Does this course of action support my true mission in life? Do I really care about impressing this person?" Etc.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/14 08:06 PM
1

This is so true. It's part of the misdirection that Betas receive from movies/tv/fantasies. Those very often contain "morality tales" about "kindness". But in every case, the helper and/or the helpee is extremely, pristinely attractive. Therefore they are useless fantasties
/r/askTRP15/08/14 02:41 AM
1

It does come together for the naturally good-looking or naturally confident men (who are the only visible men to the eyes of women), but as we do not have that, we must use our brains and our commitment and make long term plans. That is all that TRP is.
/r/askTRP15/08/14 02:34 AM
1

thought the women part would come together I'm not a TRP expert, but I would say that there's your problem. It doesn't come together, you have to make it come together. You need to find a way to put yourself in proximity to girls so you can just build up a lot of practice with different girls, similar to what a young natural good-looking schoolboy would get WITHOUT trying. There are many ways. You could go to techno dance clubs like the Jersey Shore guys, you could be a tour guide of some kind, …
/r/askTRP15/08/14 02:28 AM
2

Excellent post, although slightly fatalistic, one of the most realistic posts I've read in a while. I do agree that growing up beta is more psychologically difficult than growing up with natural alpha looks/instincts, but it's still possible to get to the other side.
/r/askTRP15/08/14 02:24 AM
2

Very interesting, sons viewed as potential servants.
/r/askTRP07/08/14 04:24 PM
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This is the best answer in the thread, although I agree that this is a subconscious thought process. 2 can be elaborated: There is an evolutionary instinct for a woman to (a) attempt to control her sons and (b) if successful, "mark" her sons with the "scarlet letter of B" that is universally visible to all women. If the sons are effectively controlled, and marked, then all other women are nonverbally informed to either avoid them or take their money and avoid their genes. If the sons are not abl…
/r/askTRP07/08/14 04:23 PM
2

Good ideas...she was attempting to blame me for her not taking notes on what boss wanted her to do. putting it back on her feels right.
/r/askTRP07/08/14 04:11 PM
4

I disagree that the only manly hobbies are athletics. That may be the most attractive to women, but pursuits like engineering, coding, writing and art are equally manly in my book even if they are less sociable/physical, simply because those are the pursuits of civilization.
/r/askTRP23/07/14 12:45 AM
47

don't argue, don't apologize, don't have a girlfriend that you don't enjoy sex with
/r/askTRP08/07/14 04:19 AM
2

No. Star Wars is a wish fulfillment fantasy. It's fun but generally don't use it as a guide. If you want good examples of power talk in entertainment, watch the TV show House of Cards. That is the show that made me start to take pride in the idea of masculinity. Lots of examples of how good frame, sharp decision-making, and judicious selection of attack/surrender/commanding/gentleness to fit the situation can lead to very real personal victories when the right tool of power is selected at the ri…
/r/askTRP27/06/14 07:27 PM
1

Thanks, I think I will, but make mine shorter and less frequent to push the 3:2 scarcity theme.
/r/askTRP27/06/14 02:08 PM
1

Thanks for the flexible advice.
/r/askTRP27/06/14 02:08 PM
3

Move to a city. Part of being an alpha is living in a city. I'm no TRP expert, but it seems that small towns are dominated by natural alphas only. In a city people are constantly coming and going; therefore your reputation gets a lot more second chances. You can create a new persona with each new friend/girlfriend if you want to. Moreover in a city it's much easier to get exervise, and there's much more girls to choose from, and its just plain more fun too. Don't skimp on it either. Go to a big …
/r/askTRP26/06/14 09:49 PM
2

Glad you have seen some progress. It never gets effortless, but it gets easier as long as you stick with it.
/r/askTRP26/06/14 09:30 PM
1

According to TRP then he should not have gone into the same business and taken over a frame of being subordinate to his father, instead struck out on his own.
/r/askTRP24/06/14 05:26 PM
3

It's beta if you take it seriously. It's full of manipulation and power talk though. If you read the bible you see the 48 tools of power all over the place: extremely bold leaders making and breaking their own rules, appealing eloquently to whatever ideal fits their self-interest in the situation, manipulating in-group / out-group identity, making impossible promises of rewards in exchange for huge real-world power gains. If you are good at that sort of manipulation you can use religion to great…
/r/askTRP24/06/14 04:26 PM
1

In addition to the lust for attention described below, Women are rare on the internet for the same reason that 90% of software developers are male*, and rarity results in a higher price.
/r/askTRP24/06/14 04:22 PM
0

I don't think school is a good idea. For example Computer programmiung skills are in high demand and can be learned for free.
/r/askTRP24/06/14 04:12 PM
3

I think this is a really important question and I am glad you asked it. I am only a TRP newbie, but I have a mission to be healthy, financially successful, have a part time tutoring business, and also improve my writing skill until I can write a book that others will enjoy. I've always enjoyed writing fiction, just sucked at it, getting harsh criticism in person from writing clubs has helped me improve a lot and given practice for building frame, and gotten me out of the house and off computer g…
/r/askTRP24/06/14 04:03 PM
3

I am by no means a success with that type of girl, but if that's your goal, here are a few ideas: The best lookers have a very high correlation with being entitled and stuck-up. If you notice this, you will have a good reason to not give them excess respect. (For me personally, I'm turned off of them completely by it.) Keep in mind that their visual beauty is their power. Avoid looking at them. Make jokes and conversation to everyone else but them and get their attention that way.
/r/askTRP20/06/14 07:11 PM
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Just keep reading the TRP forums and put yourself in a man's shoes, try to honestly imagine what it is like to be the average man. If you can do that, you will know much better how to make a man feel appreciated.
/r/askTRP20/06/14 07:04 PM
1

thanks for the straight answers. I love how people are surprisingly helpful in this sub
/r/askTRP20/06/14 06:52 PM
0

It's not a big deal either way. Just forget about it.
/r/askTRP20/06/14 06:48 PM
1

You just reminded me of my favorite Star Trek bro moment.
/r/askTRP20/06/14 06:20 PM
1

That feels like the right response in the business context. Stay cool, be very firm, be brief, and move on.
/r/askTRP20/06/14 05:09 PM
2

Excellent points. I'dd add that text messages or chat actually CAN, sometimes, make it easier for a girl to view you as sexy, because it's perceived as less threatening if a guy discusses sex via text vs verbal. Text message / etc. game is hard but you can get good enough to beat women at it with very disciplined practice. Whatever you do, constantly remind her that you DO want her in bed and you are NOT shy about admitting it--but also, if she pushes back, gracefully slow down, then speed up ag…
/r/askTRP20/06/14 04:50 PM
1

These situations are not worth all these words that you are pouring into them. You HAVE to be willing to fuck up the friendship. That's how you prove you're a man with options--a man women want. if you're afraid, you've already lost. Once women make an initial judgment of you as a beta orbiter it is over with them irrespective of how it goes after that
/r/askTRP19/06/14 05:25 PM
1

Agreed. Ideologies, grudges, excessive love etc. all are obstacles to real manhood.
/r/askTRP19/06/14 05:11 PM
1

This exactly. You MUST believe you can improve. Men are expected by women to be tough, unflappable, and funny. If you are not, you will suffer, no matter the reason. This is part of learning that life isn't fair. Given a certain universe, a certain planet, a certain society, certain skills WILL be rewarded and lack of them WILL be punished. Some are interchangeable, some are not. To be men we must face up to this fact.
/r/askTRP18/06/14 05:28 PM
2

Yes, I vote for the latter. Just move on.
/r/askTRP18/06/14 05:26 PM
2

The deeper I get into TRP, the more I realize that female friends are just impossible. Even if it's the perfect set-up, you are both really deep into some hobby/activity and love the discussing the strategy/technicalities of it, (and I have had a few of these) it always ends up being either (a) the guy asks the girl out, gets rejected, then feels odd being around her, or (b) the opposite, and in both cases the friendship ends. View every attractive girl outside of work as a potential mate, and n…
/r/askTRP18/06/14 05:21 PM
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For LTR? Not a deal breaker for me. Can't speak for others but as long as your looks are 66th percentile or greater, my LTR deal breakers would be (1) promiscuous and/or feminist (2) has no interests or hobbies (3) stupidity in general
/r/askTRP18/06/14 04:38 PM
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www.dictionary.com Learn words. EDIT: I am on a Red Pill Forum and I get downvoted for telling a newbie to learn and improve himself?
/r/askTRP18/06/14 02:56 PM
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The hardest thing abotu RP for me is walking the line between assertiveness and teasing and being insulting. It takes a lot of getting used to. If you're just starting out, I would be very careful to make sure you're not being a jerk or getting angry.
/r/askTRP17/06/14 06:20 PM
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Getting angry is a beta behavior. Moreover getting angry at an office can get you fired very fast. Women have huge power in the workplace. I would advise you to stay calm. If you can say "I'm very busy right now but Bob would be great at that", do so, if you have to submit, submit, but do not get angry.
/r/askTRP17/06/14 06:19 PM
7

One of the teachings of TRP is that first impressions are HUGE. That's why you need to look good all the time.
/r/askTRP17/06/14 06:17 PM
1

I'd argue that shedding the effects of "labels" and "stigma" is part of becoming TRP. Prostitutes are a waste of money.
/r/askTRP17/06/14 03:34 PM
2

Python is very easy to learn and decently strong, google "Learn Python The Hard Way" C++ is the absolute #1 most preferred language for heavy data processing applications such as video games--it's tougher to learn but much more powerful and efficient VB.NET and Java is used for a lot of finance stuff.
/r/askTRP16/06/14 10:51 PM
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Very true observation. I can still remember my beta self looking at a muscular man with an attractive woman and thinking "Oh, he's just "manipulating" her with his body-building." And I thought of myself as a smart guy. It's amazing how the ego can silence your reason if you don't keep an eye on it.
/r/askTRP16/06/14 10:49 PM
0

Ignore the bf's friend. That will both (a) not be cheating and (b) not cause drama. If he keeps pushing it hard, avoid being alone with him.
/r/askTRP16/06/14 09:37 PM
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Stop talking to her now, delete everything you have related to her, go out of the house, meet a new girl and ask her out within 5 minutes of meeting her. Straight up rejection feels MUCH better than constant disrespect, trust me. Avoid "falling in love" at all if you can help it--it only makes you desire to be submissive to a girl, which is a turnoff for them.
/r/askTRP16/06/14 08:08 PM
1

I learned to program on the internet when a friend encouraged me. When I did, I just put it on my resume. Now I get literally recruiters calling me up about it every day. Learning programming is really easy if you just put aside all preconceived notions about it.
/r/askTRP16/06/14 07:28 PM
2

Good points. I have found that life is surprisingly forgiving when you improve yourself and meet new people and manage to make a good first impression.
/r/askTRP16/06/14 07:26 PM
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You are fucked as many, as most of us were. You can choose to sit in misery and self-hatred, or you can choose to put RP into practice. If you try, you may fail. All the effort may be for nothing. But you are already a failure, and already your effort is for nothing, so you cannot get any worse. My only advice is, if you do choose to start a more TRP lifestyle. don't be half assed about it. Do it will full energy and commitment. EDIT: And don't expect anythign to change overnight. It can take up…
/r/askTRP16/06/14 02:38 PM
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Good call. When I first adopted TRP and was being a little too dickish, my female friends acted very confused and offended at the change, but a plate I picked up after that loved it. If you want to keep your current relationship, just keep moving to a more confident frame step by step. Knowhing the difference between dominance, negs, and insults is taking a lot of practice and mistakes but it's worth it.
/r/askTRP16/06/14 01:24 PM
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That sounds like a good way to think about it: there's no question I enjoy it, but it's my role to prove not only that I can take or leave it. And doing a feint/break away is a good way to achieve that.
/r/askTRP16/06/14 01:05 PM
3

Your advice strikes me as reasonable. I think I went a little overboard in this regard. Next time I will attempt to be a little smoother/more adaptable in my escalation.
/r/askTRP16/06/14 04:07 AM
3

I'm willing to admit the possibility. Want to hear other responses first . I had thought that making out on the first date which did happen was an RP success.
/r/askTRP16/06/14 02:09 AM
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I would advise you to keep reading and stick with trp. I think k you are moving in the right direction. Stay in a good mood as much as possible, hold frame.
/r/askTRP16/06/14 01:54 AM
1

I got sucked into this type of Ltd once. It was he'll and every time I pulled back and said "you pay for this one" she would throw a massive hiss fit until finally I lost all attraction to her. You have to se the precedent very early on that you are never going to pay more than half of things.
/r/askTRP15/06/14 05:13 PM
1

When you feel depressed, talk to a male friend or brother or sister. For me going on a solo hike or jog helps too. Do not ever complain about sadness to your gf/wife.
/r/askTRP15/06/14 05:09 PM
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Abandon the girl. It takes a TON of experience to separate a unicorn from oneitis. You are not a trp master yet. Stick to your improvement routine and meet new girls. About ib: you will make a lot of money and go to a lot of parties. Downside is huge amounts of stress almost no free time.
/r/askTRP15/06/14 05:07 PM
1

I say read all sources if you must read news. Never get sucked into one sided nationalist/social justice/glory for the group ideological thinking. Trp's teaching that politics is not worth stressing over has been very unburden ing for me.
/r/askTRP15/06/14 05:01 PM
4

I say take the job with less hours. Trp teaches that social relations are real, valuable power. More time with friends and more friends is worth more than a little more money.
/r/askTRP15/06/14 04:48 PM
5

The common corporate job today means you are away for 8 hours of every weekday, or, removing sleep, 57% of your marriage time. What is she doing during those unsupervised hours?
/r/TheRedPill14/06/14 07:57 PM
21

It is so true. I've been reading 19th century American history and literature, and it's clear that women took virtue very seriously back then. Now "bad girl" is a casual slogan of today's universal scorn for the concept of loyalty.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/14 07:55 PM
1

Agreed. I view it like modern art: It's a puzzle: there is amusement hidden in this mess, listen carefully, analyze, and you will LOL and enjoy. Moreover everyone likes being listened to, even minimally.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/14 02:01 PM
0

I agree. The truth is that men simply have more responsibility in the world than women, because women as a body simply do not shoulder it, their biological imperative is to complain, throw fits, and test men's poise. It really is amazing to me how I, considering myself an intelligent person, actually believed the genders to be "equal" and "communication is key" when there is so much obvious evidence otherwise.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/14 01:58 PM
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That's right, but if there's a girl you're not trying to fuck (ex: sister or some acquaintance at a corporate event) you can verbalize some RP principles just to amuse yourself with their reaction, watch the brain vs. the ego fight (aka hamster).
/r/TheRedPill14/06/14 01:56 PM
2

Very well said. I would say the same thing about the 48 Laws of Power and the office. It's just a toolbox. If the world was a place where all people communicated honestly and all worthy achievements were rewarded, this stuff would not be necessary. If you are dealing with an honest and straightfoward and loving and self-aware person, this stuff is not necessary. But when you're not you have these tools.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/14 01:54 PM
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I'd say, keep using TRP/PUA advice the night of, you want to continue escalating the teasing/playfulness/physical touching. When you actually get down to it and the clothes are off, just relax and take it slow. Start by spending a lot of time kissing--especially her neck and shoulders, girls love that and will remember it. if you do that, and finger or lick her pussy a bit, despite all the shit people say, it really doesn't matter how fast you come.
/r/askTRP14/06/14 10:59 AM
3

That's interesting advice, going down in a girl is my favorite part of sex. In your view, How should she "earn" it? By displays of loyalty in the relationship etc?
/r/askTRP14/06/14 10:56 AM
1

Haha, has worked for me before.
/r/askTRP14/06/14 10:53 AM
2

I was ignoring her 12 texts because I was on a date with another girl. Appreciate the reminder though, my next will include a plan in the format of 'meet me at at .' as I saw recommended somewhere.
/r/askTRP14/06/14 05:09 AM
2

Will do...man she just sent 12 more text lol.
/r/askTRP14/06/14 01:23 AM
1

She is Definitely giving iois. I met this girl through a hobby club. Last night she said "are you going to stuff me in the trunk of your car?" At close. I said "nah I only do that on dates" then she hugged and texted me this later.
/r/askTRP14/06/14 12:22 AM
1

This article finally explains it. In the 19th century -> 1950s, beta providership WAS men's #1 most reliable sexual strategy, because the world was a more uncertain and risky place. Of course, given two equally rich men, the more dominant alpha would be selected, but it was less of a priority. Now, we have removed the risk. Fortune's hand has tipped, fortune no longer favors the timid in a dangerous world, but favors the bold in a safe world. Again: we are no different from animals.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 08:05 PM
1

That has indeed worked steadily for me thus far, allowing me to reach 6 figures, so I lean towards keeping at it for the moment.
/r/askTRP13/06/14 05:06 PM
1

I think I will do that. Utilize my leadership/delegation skills instead of technical skills. Take charge of things to tell him what he should work on, and praise him for it to keep him working on it. Fair point, my goal is: At the office, I want to distinguish myself with the skills that I posess. If someone has the same skills in a greater degree I worry that I may not be able to distinguish myself. The choice is whether to re-dedicate myself to improving skills in my spare time, or to distingu…
/r/askTRP11/06/14 03:19 PM
1

Unclear just yet, he may be a temporary worker, but very possible.
/r/askTRP11/06/14 01:51 PM
11

I can still remember when I thought negging was 'sexist' and 'evil'. Now I see women doing it constantly, every time I flirt with them.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/14 08:18 PM
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It's already making a comeback. Read up on "polyamory" and you will find that (a) they are mostly women and (b) the correlation between them and "slut pride parades" is very high.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/14 07:25 PM
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It's a harsh realization. I had to be confronted with this message many times before I finally realized that some 75% of all the words spoken & written by humans are just rationalizations for that same old ape behavior. Aristotle was right, humans are just political animals. Only 2 months after finding TRP am I finally slowly starting to build my personal value.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/14 07:20 PM
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I agree. The asshole model of masculinity is valid because it requires confidence, not because it results in douchebaggery. A man can absolutely be responsible and attractive at the same time, but he must have confidence, must have his mission, must have self-respect and standards for respect.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/14 06:54 PM
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Good analysis of the issue, but be careful. The author's words seem to lean towards nerd-rage, otherwise known as "useless anger at the current state of the universe". He is correct that the current marketplace rewards the douchebag archetype slightly more now than the responsible archetype as in the past, but only on a moderate level (The Dashing Rogue was always attractive to women. Witness the fact that while Stag Beetle males battle each other for dominance over a tree branch, interloper mal…
/r/TheRedPill10/06/14 06:51 PM
3

Excellent insight on game theory. Reminds me of when I was reading the bible and noticed this: Moses: murder "Thou shalt not kill!" murder Jesus: insult some guy "Thou shalt not judge others!" insult some guy
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 07:40 PM
1

This is mostly a problem although it can be a benefit in a few ways. I have a few thoughts. In early stages of meeting a girl, it can be very helpful as it can give you the courage and confidence to physically escalate. In a relationship, you want make sure that more often, she is the one physically clinging to you, rather than you to her (although lifting her/ other manhandling can occasionally be attractive dominant behavior on your part.) Women always complain "he doesn't cuddle enough!" This…
/r/askTRP09/06/14 07:27 PM
0

This is classic girl powertalk. Translation: "I am not attracted to you."
/r/askTRP09/06/14 06:59 PM
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Long answer: Go to /r/theredpill and read all the stuff on the sidebar. The actual posts there are mostly the same facts over and over but you need to lean them. Short answer: If you ask any woman out and she rejects you twice, or even flakes/delays twice, erase her from your life unless she voluntarily, unprompted, comes back and specifically asks you out. It feels much better to be alone with your confidence, then hating yourself in the friend zone. I can vouch for this personally. Recognize t…
/r/askTRP09/06/14 06:53 PM
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I agree, I think the topic "be confrontatial" could be misinterpreted as encouraging people to start arguments which isn't effective
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 08:54 PM
1

Downvoted: Because this is an issue which has very little measured scientific impact either way Because it is unrelated to optimizing masculine success, the goal of TRP Because it is a drama-bomb ethical issue which people like andrew sullivan have been throwing hissy fits about for years Because it's also an obvious religion-vs-atheist troll bait
/r/askTRP03/06/14 09:07 PM
2

It's a fine line, but it boils down to this: Everyone judges everyone else, constantly. This is a fact of human and animal life. Everyone judges based on what they know and what they see. If you never tell others the cool accomplishments and skills you have, they will never know about them, and unfairly judge you as low value. If you overdo boasts about your cool accomplishments (for example those people who spray pictures of their babies/trips everywhere), it will annoy others. Ideally you want…
/r/askTRP03/06/14 06:37 PM
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Go to /theredpill/ and read all the links on the sidebar. I would recommend the Book of Pook in particular, it's got a great pithy parabolic style that I found really effective. I think overall the essence of TRP is, don't doubt yourself, don't be defensive, don't be grumpy, just go forth and take risks and try new things and be constructive with your time, make yourself into someone to boast of. Above all, don't be afriad to take risks and understand that Frame is just :Taking a risk, knowing t…
/r/askTRP30/05/14 08:26 PM
0

I would agree with this statement. I would add that the core alpha traits that absolutely all women respond well to are (a) confidence and (b) amused mastery. However, in my experience, negs tend to backfire on unicorns.
/r/askTRP19/05/14 09:10 PM
1

I learned the hard way this is absolutely true. It's not about "protecting the secret society" or some crap. It's for one's own good.
/r/askTRP16/05/14 01:32 PM
1

Thanks, I'm writing these lessons down.
/r/askTRP16/05/14 12:55 PM
1

Yeah while I would think Jerkboy's lessons absolutely work for plates, I don't think that would work in this case since I'm not actually trying to fuck this girl (although very ironically she did offer me a fuck if I visited her), I just like working with her on projects. Maybe that's the wrong context to practice being a charming jerk. I'll stick with the "minimize sarcasm over text.
/r/askTRP16/05/14 12:49 PM
1

I think you're right. I've been reading what RPers say about female friendship and am slowly coming around to thinking that it's right: They tend to be too easily offended and too flaky to be very good friends, anyway. Still, i will take to heart the lesson to NOT talk about RP, and to NOT be sarcastic over text.
/r/askTRP16/05/14 12:47 PM
4

Agreed, you are SUPER lucky to have seen the light at 18, my friend OP! I am 28 and while not in as bad shape as you, still regret years of lost youth!
/r/TheRedPill15/05/14 07:00 PM
2

Most mothers legitimately love their children unconditionally. That's a good quality. Women can be beautiful, silly, charming. That's a good quality. Women are strongly inherently motivated to work as teachers and nurses which are roles that do benefit society in small ways. Those are good qualities.
/r/TheRedPill13/05/14 03:13 PM
1

Thank you for saying this. Posts like this are incredibly encouraging. Just the idea that I don't have to worry about all the stupid bullshit in the newspaper, all the partially responsible victims in the world, is incredibly liberating and true.
/r/TheRedPill13/05/14 03:12 PM
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It's painful how obvious this is. It's amazing how she never ever addressed the question of why she's against getting crazy with her fiance but was totally happy to do it with the bad boy.
/r/TheRedPill13/05/14 02:47 PM
1

I did this recently. I see her as part of an activity on a regular basis. B worked perfectly over time. A mixture of A and B is the right choice. Just ignore all the talk of nonsense, ignore all the jesus stuff, ignore all the drama. Just tease, then say "Let's get dinner tonight." / / "Come watch a movie with me tonight." If she says no and/or gets dramatic (as in this case), cold shoulder her. And if she likes you, she will come back. If she agrees to hang out, smooth kino escalation will do t…
/r/askTRP12/05/14 06:36 PM
2

Talk about philosophy and politics is and will always be completely unrelated to M-F attraction. For a woman to be attracted to the man, the man must make indirect boasts, also known as DHV or Display of High Value. Talk about cool friends in far away places that you did dangerous things with. Talk about some awesome thing that you built/created/wrote that impressed your friends. Don't talk about religion, politics, or ANYTHING that she can use to label you as a nerd. I have obscure hobbies and …
/r/askTRP10/05/14 01:21 AM
1

Because the universe is the way it is, You are unfortunately unable to discuss those things with 90% of girls. You're just unable to. Part of game is being able to talk about things GIRLS like: Events, friends, funny/scary/amazing things that you experienced.
/r/askTRP10/05/14 01:17 AM
4

Natural Alphas are the most ape-like, instinctive men. Natural betas are the hardest workers. Betas are better for civilization, but women love alphas the best. When there's a stable society that somehow ensures betas get women (ie post ww2 m/f supply/demand imbalance), civilization advances. If not, then it stagnates and we all lean back towards apedom.
/r/TheRedPill08/05/14 08:52 PM
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Good summary of a bunch of similar posts on this topic that I've seen. This points out that civilization is built by worker males having an agreement with natural alpha males. (i.e. the social contract). Worker males will build, code, write, calculate. Alpha males will "lead", pay them some money and promise to probably leave them a wife--ie, no polygamy, and shaming of female promiscuity. One of the terms of the social contract is that wives will be provided via shaming of female ape behavior, …
/r/TheRedPill08/05/14 08:44 PM
2

Thanks, I like the very straightforward tone of it and I'll follow that one.
/r/askTRP30/04/14 02:54 PM
1

Good to know. That at least simplifies things so I can look single mindedly at calories.
/r/askTRP30/04/14 02:33 PM
3

The rain is cold, wet, and annoying. You cannot stop it no matter what you do. Do you hate the rain?
/r/askTRP16/04/14 01:35 PM
2

I will do deadlifts after work today. Thanks for the encouragement.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 07:09 PM
3

I just discovered TRP and started lifting 1 month ago at age 28. I feel measurably better but no success with women yet. Can you be more specific about how long it took you to turn around from your beta-hood?
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 06:47 PM
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Social Market Value.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 04:23 PM
44

I think it's part of women's instinct to visualize "men" as "top shelf man" and forget the masses of frustrated losers.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 03:06 PM
6

It's so amazing to me that the only place the truth on these comes out in popular culture is through male comedians. Louis is not even presenting it in a funny way, he's just stating RP truth -- very sad, harsh, cruel stuff -- and the drunken audience laughs uproariously.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 02:37 PM
4

Because reddit is a democracy with all this voting crap, people are constantly presented with the incentive to give people what they want to hear -- and the easiest thing to sell is the most short term feel-good horse shit. The candy industry is huge despite candy having zero value or purpose. Same thing happens in the US media, and US politics. Democrats do it with the entitlements, republicans do it with the religion.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 02:30 PM
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I haven't had this problem. As someone in a somewhat similar situation (just discovered rp a month ago, started working out and practicing frame), I'd say just take it slow and keep practicing. Try just making jokes to entertain strangers, even if it's a grocery store clerk or something. The way I see it, Frame is about this: For every interaction you are planning to have, especially the important ones, visualize the worst possible outcome. 9 times out of 10 its really not that bad. If it's cata…
/r/askTRP13/04/14 02:17 PM
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You don't know how lucky you are, man. You are 17. I am 28. I just discovered this TRP stuff a month ago. You have SO MUCH potential. You know what you have to do: The confidently framed attitude, the fitness and weight lifting, the activities and clubs you can refer to and boast about. Get started. Put all doubts out of your mind. It's so much harder when you have decades of failure to look back on like I do. Seize your youth and make the most of it.
/r/askTRP10/04/14 06:40 PM
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There's been banging but a lot of whining which I only recently, since learning of RP, have started to ignore.
/r/askTRP10/04/14 06:24 PM
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Understood, thanks.
/r/askTRP10/04/14 05:49 PM
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I agree, stuff like this could be the end of feminism, since it makes it obvious that women are selfish just like men.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/14 01:51 PM
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Yep, I write code for most of my work. I think you're right, it's really just about practicing and noting the results each time, listening for the feel, so I'll keep doing that, with a focus on practicing frequently and not letting the rejections get to me.
/r/askTRP09/04/14 07:26 PM
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In that case, I'll up it to 2 content messages from me before asking out then. I'm still too cowardly to do real-life approaches, I plan to do it after going to the gym for a while (just started daily gym 3 weeks ago).
/r/askTRP09/04/14 07:10 PM
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As someone who just started a month ago, it's accepting the idea that "there is never enough, you can never just sit back and let it all hang out." It's constant practice.
/r/askTRP09/04/14 07:05 PM
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I wish I had discovered TRP during my last LTR. Exact same thing happened except I was mad, so I just left and never came back, then regretted it when she quickly flipped from weepy apology into " you were always the villain". Now I know exactly what to do, though. Thanks for sharing the success of the RP formula, OP, it encourages us all to stand up for ourselves.
/r/TheRedPill08/04/14 06:20 PM
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/r/TheRedPill08/04/14 05:53 PM
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...and of course she suddenly looks up at the ceiling when rationalizing it out...classic tell.
/r/TheRedPill08/04/14 04:17 PM
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Very brave post, and your self-improvement efforts still braver. I agree completely.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/14 11:33 PM
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Single mothers result in poor child success outcomes, yet they are often priased as heroes, the facts need to be spread
/r/TheRedPill07/04/14 08:40 PM
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Excellent point, and a great motivator for all of us to take charge of absolutely everything in our lives. If you don't like something, what have you done about it?
/r/TheRedPill07/04/14 07:43 PM
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I believe this is the correct answer. It's the philosophy of altruism/Christianity (remember a guy called Joseph?) / morality that is the trick.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/14 05:10 PM
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I have to come clean...the massive failure of a dating relationship that drove me to TRP: Online dating Woman is a 35 year old Presbyterian Minister. I think, 'Well damn, she's old but at least she's a smart person!' At every date, does tons of make outs yet refuses to even kiss inside a building or allow my escalations, constantly slapping away my hands. Weeks pass like this, with zero escalation, but I keep clinging on, desperate. (Now I know I should have nexted her at the third date with no …
/r/TheRedPill02/04/14 02:38 PM
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Thanks, that's what I was thinking. Every successful hookup I've had closed the first date with a kiss or further, so I'll use that as my rubric and be glad that I dropped this potato early.
/r/askTRP02/04/14 02:23 PM
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I put marriage counseling businesses in the same category as religions, herbal supplements, and infomercial sales: expensive solutions to imaginary problems
/r/TheRedPill02/04/14 02:17 PM
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The more men a woman has been with, the more jaded and entitled she becomes, the more money/resources she expects a man to give her. For men, all we want is the act, we have no interest in resources. If we want an LTR, we don't want to be made to beg and wine and dine, we want to be respected for our commitment. If we just want a hook up, then we just want a hook up. Moreover, a woman instinctively appreciates a man with a high partner count because that is some proof that he is "in demand" and …
/r/askTRP02/04/14 01:46 PM
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I actually like the chubby look, probably because I had 2 older sisters who are both nearly anorexic and it disgusts me.
/r/askTRP02/04/14 01:34 PM
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The pill is hard to swallow. As I understand it, the point is to forget all your past emotion-based ideologies and look at everything with utterly clear eyes. Maybe you liked Dan Savage because he spoke out against bullies. Maybe you were bullied and that made you feel good to see him shout and rage on youtube. Now you realize that bullying is an elemental human behavior based on relative SMV and frame presentation. Now you realize that Dan Savage often gives shit advice because he doesn't under…
/r/TheRedPill01/04/14 05:07 PM
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Yeah, they tend to give girls extremely zero-sum advice that benefits the girl and not the guy. I've been studying this columnist's advice and while he will occasionally do honest stuff like tell guys to hit the gym and get out of the house / tell girls to drop Dark Triads, anytime a girl wants more action he will advise her to just hide it from the guy and lie.
/r/TheRedPill01/04/14 04:55 PM
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If you were trained from an early age to care, it takes an effort to not care
/r/TheRedPill01/04/14 03:04 PM
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There is a strong base reason for every stereotype. If you cannot see this you are either too stupid or remain brainwashed by an ideology. Clear the filth from your eyes, the sooner the better. The average women desires a man with power, purpose, and/or popularity. Money is strongly related.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/14 09:41 PM
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Take some combination of (Math, Economics, Finance, Business, Engineering, CS). Even if you don't give a flying fuck about any of that stuff, it will serve you well. Ignore anythign creative or artistic and of course the totally useless "-studies". History, english and philosophy--No way. You are FAR better served just reading that shit in your spare time after school, there is nothing stopping you.
/r/askTRP29/03/14 09:33 PM
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Good lord, imagine if "Craig" saw this thread. The drama would be epic. If I were him, I can't imagine the amount of humiliation and rage that would ensue. I'm so glad I found TRP.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/14 08:36 PM
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Video games, especially single player video games. People who make video games walk to the bank laughing that you feel happy you accomplished an utterly meaningless task that they completely framed and defined. They suck value and time out of your life and give you nothing in return but cotton-candy puffs of ego that vanishes as soon as you switch off the machine.
/r/askTRP26/03/14 07:28 PM
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Exactly what happened to me recetnly. Since I started reading, it's so clear now. I am now printing all this shit out, and focusing.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 04:24 PM
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I think the point is, you need to forget about talent and genetics if you are going to push yourself to improve. You need to believe in your own potential for improvement.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 04:13 PM
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How can redpill men avoid this mess? Simply by constantly maintaining frame and hoping their wife doesn't do anything on the sly? Asking as a newbie.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 03:50 PM
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It's very clear she hates men who admit their weaknesses and men who show frustration or sadness. I'm amazed that until I found this sub, it never occurred to me that women can go around complaining loudly about being weak, frustrated, and helpless, and that's considered completely normal or even "social justice", but for men it's total failure to do so. It's such a stark difference and it's so clear now. It's no reason for me to be angry, just a property of humans to be understood.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 03:37 PM
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Agreed. As a newbie, I've thus far found the relaxed, non-judgmental realism here much easier to swallow--and more encouraging--than the PUA shysters who taunt their customers.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 12:49 AM
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/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 12:03 AM
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Thanks for the advice. I just started working out this week. I will keep at it. In this situation I just ignored them, but I will work on my SMV.
/r/askTRP25/03/14 07:02 PM
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It does feel good to commiserrate and be amazed by the abuses. I've had so many WTF moments with women recently and the more I read here the more it seems perfectly logical and ordinary. The distinction of "Literal talk" vs. "Power talk" really helps.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 11:36 PM
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Good to hear there are paths to choose. The older I get the more this stuff makes sense to me.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 11:03 PM
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I'm planning to...I'm starting to be amazed that there are guys who actually want to spread this knowledge instead of keeping it to themselves.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 10:54 PM
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Yes, you did, thanks. What motivates you guys to teach newbies like me?
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 10:53 PM
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Thanks. What motivates you guys to teach newbies like me?
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 10:53 PM
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Thanks, that response was much straighter talk than I expected to hear, and less scary too. My goal is just to get married and then forget this stuff...
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 09:53 PM
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Yeah I'm going to start my withdrawal tonight. I've been working on the "when I say no I feel guilty" book and this will be good practice for it.
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This advice makes the most sense to me. I'll just say "you need your rest and I don't feel like being here all the time is helping you, get some rest, I'll just do my own thing."
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it's 3.5 months. I am definitely unsatisfied though.
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Thanks for the thoughts guys. Since both she and I were exhausted at the time, and I'll see her next morning, I'll work out the details then using your template.
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Thanks for the thoughts . She is korean and already has a boyfriend btw. I see her about once or twice a week around the office so maybe it's better to do it when I see her next , and I can arrange it in a more personable way.
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I'm not trying to impress anyone. I want to fuck this girl. If she says some bullshit like "you're too greedy" but we still escalate significantly at each meeting, then I'm happy. If she does more scolding and withdrawing next time, then I'll next her.
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That's my plan. I've got 2 other female acquaintances to ask out for drinks and I'm going to do exactly that. Already got one to agree Seems like you re good either way, if double booked you get jealousy points or if not then no harm done.
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I'm leery of the ideological-sounding diets like keto and paleo and 'organic' etc. The /fitness FAQ told me to focus purely on calories as I start out, so I'm going to do that.
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It's starting to look like learning to cook and learning to lose weight are closely linked together. And it looks like I have no excuse not to start now since I have plenty of free time. Thanks.
/r/askTRP
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Is it worth worrying about the # of grams of fat? I heard that it should be below 60. Or is it better to just focus on the calories? I'll start right away and aim at 1500.
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So, just record the exact calories of all meals every day and stop eating when I get to 1800 or so?
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I read the sidebar and didn't see anythign about frame...found this though http://therationalmale.com/2011/10/12/frame/ I will read it. ... hmm talked about the importance but didn't give a lot of examples. I'll keep looking. ...seems like people are describing "frame" as "confidence in one's own view of events (such as in this case, my view of the hookups as no big deal, just for fun) built upon years of experiences." I guess I answered my own question.
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Noted. The positive, helpful attitude of people in TRP community really impresses me. I expected a lot of macho trolls, but this is inspiring.
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