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| 2 | It Gets Better? Sinking And Swimming In MisandrySomebody else already provided the link, but here it is: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1WKpjYGvhDygzqtv7gS9EV Obama was very candid about what's been done to men and boys in this podcast, and he even accepts some of the responsibility. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/08/25 07:29 PM |
| 2 | Have you heard of Postgenderism?You've got one hell of an ego. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/06/25 01:33 AM |
| 3 | Have you heard of Postgenderism?Thank you for explaining my identity and worldview to me. I wish you had been here thirty years earlier to instruct me. While you're at it can you also explain homosexuality and my ethnic identity to me as well? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/06/25 01:01 AM |
| 6 | Have you heard of Postgenderism?I grew up as a progressive gay man. Democrat all the way. Totally into personal liberty and fighting oppression, fighting conservatism, you name it. I look back and realize I internalized a lot of misandry that alienated me from masculinity, but I also realize that I genuinely did not want to be held to gendered expectations. I did not want anyone else to be held to those expectations, either. So in my younger days I would've agreed with a lot of what you said here. Today, I love gender identity… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/06/25 07:45 PM |
| 32 | "I don't hate men, I hate the patriarchy" What are some things you think of when you hear this statement from feminist?This is identical to Christians saying they hate the sin but love the sinner in reference to homosexuals. If a movement is problematizing a group of people, criticizing and attempting to dictate that group's identity to them, demonizing them, painting them as dangerous or threatening, calling them names and engaging in bigotry only to claim "I'm just telling the truth" or "it's just a joke, calm down," then you have to decide for yourself whether or not they hate people or just systems. Bigots w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/06/25 04:09 PM |
| 1 | Email Your State Democratic Party And Tell Them Why Men Are LeavingVery well said. I want to make clear I don't think that the Dems will change. That's not what this project is about. The point is for men to say out loud to them why they can't have us back. We need to be putting that information out there as much as we can. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/06/25 02:07 AM |
| 5 | Project Call: Building a Platform to Document Men’s Experiences and a Global Equality Index with focus on men's issues.This is a great idea. I have experience writing and can offer assistance with content in that regard. Please feel free to send me a message. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/05/25 04:34 AM |
| 5 | Email Your State Democratic Party And Tell Them Why Men Are LeavingHell yes. This is great. Thanks for taking time to compose this and do your part to make some noise. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/05/25 04:32 AM |
| 7 | Email Your State Democratic Party And Tell Them Why Men Are LeavingThat is valid. Withhold your vote. Don't listen to the people who shame or belittle you for it. They're mad because you're punishing them by not voting. Good. Be glad they're angry at you for not voting. I hope it fucking hurts. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/05/25 10:24 PM |
| 3 | Email Your State Democratic Party And Tell Them Why Men Are LeavingYes, many have phone numbers too. Google your state Democratic party and then find the contact us button. Sometimes they also have the contact info at the bottom of their page. You should find a phone number that way. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/05/25 09:38 PM |
| 2 | How did you realize you don't live in a real patriarchy?My original post details the hate and violence I've experienced from women and girls as society has idly watched and spoke about how my feelings and experiences are routinely dismissed and derailed so we can talk about how bad women have it. You've just proved my point. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/05/25 09:22 PM |
| 12 | Email Your State Democratic Party And Tell Them Why Men Are LeavingThat's perfect. Send it. Edit to thank you for taking time to speak up. I hope more will follow your lead. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/05/25 12:27 AM |
| 17 | Email Your State Democratic Party And Tell Them Why Men Are LeavingSend that to them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/05/25 01:25 PM |
| 5 | How do we clean up MRA?Yes, I think that's a good idea. If a group is just turning to hating another group then it's setting up to make more harm and discredit itself. But my point here was that there are groups that have fundamental incompatibilities (gays and Christians) that do not mix well. So while they shouldn't hate each other, their agendas are naturally set against each other and it would be quite foolish (self-destructive) for one group to be like, "Hey we need to work with this other group that's actively s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/05/25 01:18 PM |
| 9 | How do we clean up MRA?Gay people should work with Christians as allies to expand gay rights! Sure, some Christians have said mean things about gays, and some interpret passages in the Bible about killing gays with rocks to mean homosexuality is immoral, but not all Christians think alike. Christianity is about love and forgiveness! The gay rights movement needs to clean out the anti-Christian bigotry from its ranks and focus on working with Christian allies on things like gay marriage rights that Christians repeatedl… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/25 05:00 PM |
| 24 | My nephew asked me if he is going to grow up to be a rapist ...Thank you for being there for your nephew. I can't fathom the pain young men must be experiencing in this society that treats them like monsters. This shit has got to change, and we all have to change it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/04/25 03:28 PM |
| 28 | Misandrist feminism is a right-wing movement and it's time we stop treating these people as progressivesI agree overall. The statements that these bigots make are pretty much interchangeable with each other. The problem is that the people who are engaging in misandry are doing so under the guise of "social justice." They pretend like it's progress to abuse groups they see as privileged, especially men. If anybody who is perceived as privileged calls these bigots out, then that protest is simply treated as the privileged party feeling aggrieved that his privilege is being threated. That is why we a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/04/25 03:26 PM |
| 4 | A question for menI cannot think of a way in which liberals are helping men. You could make an argument that fighting for unions or higher wages might help men, but that would be liberals helping men because they work rather than just because they're men. In other words, if they help men as a demographic, it's always just a coincidence. "Leftwing" does not have to mean liberalism. It can refer to socialists, Marxists, communists, etc. I am starting to think that the best thing all advocates for men could do would… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/04/25 03:17 PM |
| 5 | do not know if this is written as good as some people might like but i put a lot of work into it and it is where i think male rights advocates often go wrong and how we are chancing losing the culture war if we go to far right or that is pretty much what it is.You very easily misunderstood me You are very easy to misunderstand. I am now more confused than ever about what you're trying to say. You said circumcision is used to treat "unhealthy" baby boys. That is not why millions of boys are circumcised in the US each year. Millions of baby boys do not have infected foreskins. The overwhelming majority of "medical" infant circumcisions performed are done so with the idea that the procedure will prevent health problems. The reasoning is as simple (and as… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/04/25 01:45 AM |
| 6 | do not know if this is written as good as some people might like but i put a lot of work into it and it is where i think male rights advocates often go wrong and how we are chancing losing the culture war if we go to far right or that is pretty much what it is.There is no compelling medical reason to perform circumcision on a healthy infant boy. It is a cultural practice. Just because some people believe it is medically beneficial does not make it so. That is one among many reasons why there is no other developed nation in the world that practices routine circumcision. For every problem that circumcision is supposedly meant to cure, there are effective non-surgical solutions. So even if it had some medical benefit, those benefits could be realized wit… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/04/25 12:49 AM |
| 8 | do not know if this is written as good as some people might like but i put a lot of work into it and it is where i think male rights advocates often go wrong and how we are chancing losing the culture war if we go to far right or that is pretty much what it is.there is not a single right that hasn't been applied to men as a default when extended to other identities like class, race, etc throughout at least the era of western democracy. There are rights that women have that men do not in western countries. It remains so to this day. That's why this sub exists. It's ironic you make this claim in a thread where there have been so many mentions of genital mutilation. In most western countries (including the US) any form of genital cutting of a girl is ill… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/04/25 10:06 PM |
| 6 | do not know if this is written as good as some people might like but i put a lot of work into it and it is where i think male rights advocates often go wrong and how we are chancing losing the culture war if we go to far right or that is pretty much what it is.I agree wholeheartedly that circumcision is a core men's rights issue. We should all fight to stop it by supporting organizations like GALDEF and Intact Global with whatever donations we can afford this year as they begin their legal battle in the US. I don't get what you're saying in the rest of it. You say on the one hand that the conservatives and libertarians in the men's movement are a problem for the movement, yet conclude by saying you think the men's movement desperately needs to be a mo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/04/25 01:33 PM |
| 12 | What is feminism?What is feminism? It is a thing I am totally done with. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/04/25 09:25 PM |
| 3 | Shared Culture and the Role of Culture in Funnelling Men and Women TogetherRegarding intimacy, many men today feel uncertain or afraid of intimacy with women for fear of being accused of sexual assault or rape after the fact. Regarding family and marriage, divorce and custody laws overwhelmingly favor women so that a man getting married has everything to lose if his wife gets bored and wants to end the marriage. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/04/25 12:42 AM |
| 12 | Shared Culture and the Role of Culture in Funnelling Men and Women TogetherWe live in such a dysfunctional, disgusting, artificial society that the breakdown between men and women is just one of a long list of catastrophes imposed upon humanity by capitalism and technology. I agree with you that what we're seeing is a system design problem. And capitalists would likely agree at this point, because they need men and women to continue making more workers and consumers together. In my view, the breakdown between the sexes is a product of the following things: Women are co… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/04/25 02:43 PM |
| 35 | What's a good response or 'comeback' to the pick me girl insult?A person engaging in ad hominem attacks is typically on the losing side of the argument. That is why they're attacking you rather than the point you're arguing. It's the debate equivalent of the losing player flipping over the chessboard when they're about to be checkmated. The best thing you can do is casually let their insults bounce off you and keep arguing your point calmly and clearly. They want you to respond to the insults because they want to distract you and hurt you. Don't give them wh… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/04/25 02:51 PM |
| 8 | I’m a woman and I want to helpI understand what you're saying in that regard. And it's always left me wondering when straight men are going to stop playing this game they cannot possibly win. If men stopped pursuing women in large enough numbers, wouldn't women have to become the pursuers and then men would be the ones who get to pick the winners and losers? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/04/25 11:56 PM |
| 98 | I’m a woman and I want to helpWhen you say women don't need men but men need women, what exactly are you referring to? What is it that men need from women that women don't need from men? I applaud you for realizing that raising boys to become the type of men that women will want is a bad idea. What women expect and want from men may not always be good or reasonable for men. Boys should be raised to be happy and healthy men with their own values and identities, not specially engineered companions for women. Men can advocate f… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/03/25 06:22 PM |
| 6 | Opinions on Sam Seder and the Majority ReportNo, the Jubilee video just came out a few days ago. The episode I was referring to was like a couple years ago. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/25 02:31 PM |
| 27 | Opinions on Sam Seder and the Majority ReportSam Seder is an insufferably arrogant douchebag. I saw an episode of his show where he and his panel rewatched a debate Sam had been in and they kept pausing the video to discuss how awesome Sam's performance in the debate was. He sat there congratulating himself and musing about how easy it was to win that debate, etc. I don't say this often, but he is a legitimate piece of shit. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/25 12:06 AM |
| 13 | This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree.This is very well put. It's a game of moderates protecting extremists by saying that the religion is the victim of extremism, not the people the extremists are attacking because of the religion. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/25 06:02 PM |
| 18 | This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree.Feminism is a two-centuries old creaking, bloated, hideous part of establishment power in the western world. It's on its way out, and I couldn't be happier to see it go. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/25 02:28 PM |
| 85 | Lost boys report: Young men are in crisis due to fatherlessnessThe woman who runs the organization has this to say: "Some people are offended by our name - Lads Need Dads - but I stand by it. We're not taking away from the importance of a mother, but that male influence is also important. Ultimately, we're helping women and girls too by raising boys who are more emotionally intelligent, stable and secure." I support what they're doing, but as with all attempts to help men and boys, it's always prefaced with apologies to feminists and women who are outraged … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/25 02:18 PM |
| 15 | Practically speaking, men need to focus more on elaborating the difficulties we are facing and stop hating on other groups of people, even if the hatred is well-justifiedWe're never going to convince feminists that their biases against us are wrong. We do not need them to like us. It is important to call out their misandry when we see it. We want to protect as many men and boys from misandry as we can, as it can be damaging to our sense of worth and it breeds more misandry. So yes, we need to absolutely let misandrists know their ideas are gross, and be able to explain why those beliefs are gross. Our mission should be solving men's issues regardless of what our… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/03/25 08:33 PM |
| 23 | Practically speaking, men need to focus more on elaborating the difficulties we are facing and stop hating on other groups of people, even if the hatred is well-justifiedI do agree that we should focus on men's specific issues more than we do. I think the most unhelpful thing of all is to post misandrist content found elsewhere on the web and then sit there telling each other how awful it is. However, I do think there needs to be some critical analysis of feminism. The more something positions itself as beyond reproach, the more we need to criticize it. But I think our criticism needs to be on its logical contradictions, its misrepresentation of history and stat… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/03/25 02:25 PM |
| 27 | Practically speaking, men need to focus more on elaborating the difficulties we are facing and stop hating on other groups of people, even if the hatred is well-justifiedYep, agreed. It's sad that this is what it has come to, but a lot of men, myself included, are realizing the safest and best thing for us to do is simply disappear and contribute as little as possible. Let feminists have the world they wanted and we'll see how long it can last. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/03/25 02:23 PM |
| 13 | A helpful if flawed contribution from a feminist academicI never said that she wrote men should not be masculine. How did you even come up with that? Talk about a very motivated reading of someone's writing. What I said was that her section on men's issues was nothing but a cry for normalization of men and boys doing traditionally feminine things. In case it's not obvious, men have more pressing issues than not being able to comfortably paint their nails. My comment saying, "As always, the real problem for men is being too much like men," is an expres… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/03/25 02:22 PM |
| 23 | A helpful if flawed contribution from a feminist academicI did not see anything helpful in it. I found it extremely tone deaf. Her section about men's issues is literally her just saying what men need is to be able to feminize themselves freely and do ballet. She writes: Boys need to be empowered to explore identities beyond the traditional mould of “being a man”. As always, the real problem for men is being too much like men. She even goes so far as to say, "We need to put greater efforts in to stop the problematic narrative of manhood that is being … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/03/25 01:59 AM |
| 5 | Please select the one that checks out with you (just taking a survey here to see the demographic of the sub)As a gay male critic of feminism, I see this phenomenon as well. I have thought maybe it was a product of simping or maybe just fear of being totally open to attack. If you're a heterosexual male (god help you if you're white, too) it's basically open season on you from all sides and you're starting with zero legitimacy in feminist's eyes. If you've got some kind of oppression experience (like being gay) then you can easily compare your experience with misandry with your experience of homophobia… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/03/25 10:04 PM |
| 17 | A question for the women of this sub.I agree entirely. The idea that feminism is in any way helpful or even just neutral toward men is dubious. We've had 177 years of feminism in America, plenty of time for them to change that narrative, show real solidarity, learn how to talk to men, actually make any kind of effort to improve things for men as they have for women, and we've got nothing to show for it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/03/25 07:35 PM |
| 1 | male here who is upset he is circumcised and wants to prevent it from happening to other innocent people.I'm sorry that happened man. But the good news is there are organizations that are fighting against this practice, and I think we'll be seeing progress very soon. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/03/25 03:29 PM |
| 2 | male here who is upset he is circumcised and wants to prevent it from happening to other innocent people.I am with you. I never asked for it and don't want it. If you want to participate in the effort to stop infant circumcision, please consider donating to GALFED in their fight to ban the practice in the US. They are brining legal action against states who have banned female genital mutilation but who do not protect boys: https://www.galdef.org/ You can also donate to Intact Global who are pursuing similar legal action. Near the end of this month they're announcing a lawsuit against Oregon for all… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/03/25 04:00 AM |
| 13 | We’re Fumbling the Bag & It’s Killing MeI feel your frustration. Inquisitions, purity tests, heretic burnings, and excommunication are just another day on the left. I'm very, very tired of it. There are no winners in this mess, but I know that everyone on the outside gets a lot of laughs watching us squawk about justice and inclusivity while pushing each other out of the club. The truth is none of us are ever going to agree on everything, and as the subject of our arguments centers on things considered more and more fundamental or pri… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/03/25 12:26 AM |
| 6 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issues - Part 3That is very clearly not what they were saying. The user referred to "DEI programs getting burned to the ground." They were saying it's hard to feel bad that the programs are shutting down because those programs were spreading hateful ideology. Please do not charge into conversations flinging accusations of racism and sexism at people. That is precisely why the left is so reviled and not taken seriously. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/03/25 03:28 PM |
| 14 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issues - Part 3I am not judging you. I only want to say this describes where so many people are at now. Fundamental political beliefs determine who we want to cooperate with or include. Politics bears more weight on who we consider allies than color, sexual orientation, religion, or sex. When I was a kid (I'm in my mid-30s now) what I saw people aligning around more than anything was religion. That was the ultimate test of a person's morality, and subsequent worthiness to be an ally. The culture has discarded … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/03/25 05:30 AM |
| 28 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issues - Part 3The grouping of these identities together is a simple product of dividing the world into "privileged" and "unprivileged" categories. This grouping flows freely throughout our meetings but I haven't addressed it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/03/25 05:19 AM |
| 31 | A Netflix series regarding the manosphere and teen guysHaha I can relate. I mean I'm curious if maybe it's a more sensitive portrayal of young men than it's letting on. Maybe it's about how society demonizes men, but I seriously doubt that. My thing is that I am so tired of misandry and demonization I just want to get away from it and not even take a chance on being exposed to it, even if that means potentially missing out on something that would turn out to be good. I am tired of being analyzed, exploited, abused, characterized, etc. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/03/25 08:08 PM |
| 69 | A Netflix series regarding the manosphere and teen guysIf anybody bothers to watch this, let us know if it's exactly what we all suspect it is. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/03/25 06:10 PM |
| 7 | The “bowl of skittles” argumentI am familiar with them, I remember their signs at Hillary Clinton rallies. Is that where they got their start or did they exist before 2016? If you've got some sources for this, I'd love to see them because this seems like the kind of thing I should have at my disposal when discussing feminism. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/25 05:13 PM |
| 7 | The “bowl of skittles” argumentI was mainly just referring to their hostility toward masculinity and wanting to control it or erase it. What specifically are you referring to when you say "legislative system of eugenics?" | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/25 05:09 PM |
| 46 | The “bowl of skittles” argumentWhat an absolutely fantastic find. History is our best teacher. Apparently the book was presented as evidence during the Nuremberg trials of Nazi cruelty. The author was convicted of being an accessory to crimes against humanity and executed in 1946. I am sure the author would be proud to know that his legacy survived and has now been adopted by 21st century feminists still searching for their own Final Solution to the Masculinity Question. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/25 03:22 PM |
| 3 | At least two recent articles in Feminist Media Studies recognized the existence of misandryI agree that the problem is innate to feminism's doctrine. That is why I said misandry is canon in feminism. And yes, as you point out, it proposes a model of how society works that is not even accurate. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/25 02:40 PM |
| 4 | At least two recent articles in Feminist Media Studies recognized the existence of misandryWell said, I agree. I hope my post didn't downplay the litany of shit that feminism has wrought upon society. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/25 02:14 AM |
| 35 | At least two recent articles in Feminist Media Studies recognized the existence of misandryOn the one hand, I'm glad they're taking the first steps to recognizing the harm of misandry. Hopefully this will be done from the position of realizing it is harmful to men and not from the position of wanting to avoid alienating men whose votes feminists want for women's issues. On the other hand, this reminds me a lot of the Catholic church apologizing for its role in various atrocities throughout its history only to, as Christopher Hitchens put it, hurriedly get the apology over with so it c… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/02/25 07:05 PM |
| 24 | The left is beginning to rethink the "believe all women" phrase.The debate moderators were my favorite part of that. "WHY DID YOU TELL ELIZABETH WARREN IN PRIVATE WITH NO WITNESSES TO CONFIRM THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED THAT A WOMAN COULD NOT BE PRESIDENT?" | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/25 06:45 PM |
| 34 | The left is beginning to rethink the "believe all women" phrase.If this is such a non-issue for you, are you comfortable with the idea of a woman accusing you publicly of raping her when you did not? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/25 04:13 PM |
| 65 | The left is beginning to rethink the "believe all women" phrase.That whole spectacle was like a South Park episode. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/25 03:29 PM |
| 144 | The left is beginning to rethink the "believe all women" phrase.The US progressives, Democrats, the left, etc, all started cooling off on this phrase in the 2020 elections when Joe Biden was accused of sexually assaulting a woman. We had people like Elizabeth Warren trying to explain that "believe women" was only a figure of speech intended to provide women the space and permission they need to tell their stories. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/25 02:41 PM |
| 2 | How to Engage Conservative Family Members in Productive Political Discussions: A Comprehensive GuideI don't know how it goes where you live, but where I live, there are a number of issues with illegal immigration that are pretty hard to sweep under the rug. Immigrants who sneak into the US buy cars and drive them without a license or insurance. Because they're uninsured, and because they're not here legally, if they're in an accident (especially if it's one they caused) they're prone to drive off, leaving the person whose car they damaged to pay for it with their own insurance even if it wasn'… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/25 04:06 AM |
| 1 | JD Vance: "Don't allow this broken culture to send you a message that you're a bad person because you're a man"Those quotes aren't even close to identifying the nature of misandry and telling men not to listen to it. All I'm saying is that this has not happened before. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/25 03:51 AM |
| 1 | JD Vance: "Don't allow this broken culture to send you a message that you're a bad person because you're a man"Can you please point out what other American president or vice president ever told men not to listen to voices saying they're bad people just for being men? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/25 03:06 AM |
| 2 | How to Engage Conservative Family Members in Productive Political Discussions: A Comprehensive GuideThat is not a belief widely held by conservatives. That's a really extreme example. That would be like conservatives saying, "left-wingers want to gender transition minors." Some do, but not anything even approaching half would approve of that, I would guess. The conservative arguments I've been hearing all my life (and I've heard a lot of them) have been centered on the desire for immigrants to come here legally. It's easy to latch onto extreme or silly examples like the pet eating thing, but t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/25 02:13 AM |
| 1 | How to Engage Conservative Family Members in Productive Political Discussions: A Comprehensive GuideAre you referring to the great pet devouring of '24? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/25 01:58 AM |
| 2 | How to Engage Conservative Family Members in Productive Political Discussions: A Comprehensive GuideI agree that the conservative point of view has been deeply entrenched and encoded in society. And conservatives see that as conservatism being synonymous with a sustainable society that continues to survive and pass those ideas along to future generations. However, conservatives would counter, and I would agree, that leftists have a stronghold in education and culture in many ways. But still, the core problem of the questions I posed in my previous response remains. How do we address conservati… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/25 02:03 PM |
| 6 | How to Engage Conservative Family Members in Productive Political Discussions: A Comprehensive GuideI grew up in a church that used to go door-to-door handing out Bibles and sharing the good news of Jesus Christ. We had training guides to teach us how to witness to sinners that were similar to this. "Be sure to listen, don't just talk. Don't go right to condemning the sin. Let them come to the foot of the cross on their own." A lot of conservatives look at us like we are absolutely insane, childish, dangerous people who are destroying western civilization, and many of us see them the same way.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/25 06:20 AM |
| 2 | Perpetrators of violence against men hate men no less than perpetrators of violence against women hate womenThank you for the detailed response! The biggest connection this makes for me is to the #MeToo movement and false allegations of rape. Women can feign injury from a man who did nothing to them in order to harm him from a distance. Very interesting stuff. Thanks again for taking time to elaborate. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/02/25 07:46 PM |
| 9 | Dear DNC: Create a National Task Force on Men - An open letter to the new leadership at the DNCIt would be fantastic if such a committee could be formed. If this doesn't generate any response, maybe you can try again if the NCFM wins their lawsuit against California for having a task force for women and girls but none for men and boys. That could help push this idea further onto their radar. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/02/25 03:27 PM |
| 1 | Perpetrators of violence against men hate men no less than perpetrators of violence against women hate womenI am curious about what you're referring to here. Can you share some more details about proxy violence? The examples I can think of are things like women encouraging men around them to fight for them, creating social conflicts that may escalate to violence that men will have to deal with, etc. The term "violence by proxy" is very interesting and if there is more to learn about it, I am interested. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/02/25 03:24 PM |
| 9 | The New Republic: It’s Time for Democrats to Woo the Man VoteYeah it's not like we're lacking for positive ideas about masculinity. That's what makes this "we need to reimagine masculinity" thing so insulting. It's predicated on the idea that men have only ever drawn meaning and had identity through hurting others or hurting themselves. It's like saying, "We need to reimagine homosexuality without all the meth and AIDS." It is the absolute worst way to look at another group. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/02/25 02:56 AM |
| 14 | The New Republic: It’s Time for Democrats to Woo the Man VoteI wanted to know more about what David Hogg has said of men's issues and found a relevant tweet from just before the election in which he said the following: "I hope I’m wrong but if we lose in November I think the main reason why will be the number of young men of all races that are no longer Democrats. There’s been a taboo about talking about this because we understandably are hesitant to make men a main point of conversation (given we have been for thousands of years) but we have a real probl… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/02/25 07:48 PM |
| 46 | Perpetrators of violence against men hate men no less than perpetrators of violence against women hate womenOne thing I want to add is that the phrase, "misogyny kills, misandry irritates," also minimizes the very real impact of misandry on men and boys. Misandry has done incredible damage to the worth and identity of men and boys in the western world. It has driven males to feel unwanted and unloved. It drives them to reject masculinity. It creates problems for men and boys at the same time it tells us those problems aren't real or do not matter. It drives men and boys to depression and isolation, an… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/02/25 06:41 PM |
| 1 | Disappointing to say the least..I think that a standard for "normal" will always exist, even if we saw gender roles largely disappear. Already, people who adhere to traditional roles are cast as kooks and bigots by people who oppose such roles. I don't think that eliminating gender roles will solve the conflict between the sexes. One could argue that men being silenced when they try to make progress on their issues is itself a product of gender roles; that men should be stoic about whatever injustice is being done to them. Thi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/02/25 05:18 AM |
| 2 | Disappointing to say the least..I don't doubt there's a big difference between online and real life in how people respond. Small dick jokes are ubiquitous here in the US, and they are made in response to loud cars, big cars, guns, and bodybuilding. I am sure there are more I am not even thinking of. Trying to point out the body-shaming aspects works the same way here. "It's just a joke." I'm sure I've talked to fewer women about this in real life than you have. Only a couple have been very open so far to me. But I am really ha… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/02/25 11:47 PM |
| 2 | Disappointing to say the least..Thank you for writing out such a detailed response. There is a lot of value in this. The turning of anger against entire demographics is a wildfire that we cannot stop at this point. You make an excellent point about people who have what many would consider extreme viewpoints never getting time or space to talk. Society is really quick to shut people down, especially men, who have these views and that is not helpful. We don't learn anything, nor do we help anyone, by shutting people down. I am v… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/02/25 10:38 PM |
| 7 | Disappointing to say the least..I agree that it's important to read the intent too, not just words. But words are tools that we use to do work, and using the wrong tool can tear down rather than build up. Clearly I was addressing you in my post, not the original author. I didn't invalidate his experience. All I did was ask you about the terms you choose because I feel like "toxic masculinity" is an undesirable term. I am curious what your approach is to men who are expressing an extreme amount of anger toward women. If you hav… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/02/25 09:40 PM |
| 22 | Disappointing to say the least..I understand what you're saying, but why not just go ahead and call it gender roles? When we refer to women's gender roles, we call them gender roles. We don't typically call it "toxic femininity," nor should we. But with men we almost never say "gender roles," we always say "toxic masculinity," which reinforces a negative connection between masculinity and undesirability. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/02/25 08:48 PM |
| 3 | Intact Global Will Announce Historic Lawsuit Against Infant Circumcision In MarchI agree, I wish that they could take it all on in one swoop, but based on my inquiry, I learned they simply do not have the infrastructure to do that right now. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/02/25 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Therapist Explains The Dehumanization Of MenIt's awesome that your wife is onboard with men's issues! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/02/25 04:32 AM |
| 6 | Easier to accuse someone of being a racist than a misandristNo worries. We all jump the gun sometimes. I do, however, believe there is an important point to be made here about allowing political biases to entirely invalidate other groups. This is an issue that's eating the left like cancer, where we associate an idea with a political or social group we dislike and then refuse to address that idea on its own merits, choosing instead to simply dismiss it as bullshit from this or that undesirable group when it may not actually be bullshit. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/02/25 06:28 PM |
| 18 | Easier to accuse someone of being a racist than a misandristThe 2017 study showing women prefer dominant men is entirely consistent with the definition of hypergamy, which in the referenced article is, "act or practice of a person dating or marrying a spouse of higher social status or sexual capital than themselves." This also appears to match with your own definition of the word. Dominance would be associated with higher social status. Did you even open the link I provided? Also you've sort of contradicted yourself here because you said in your first po… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/02/25 06:14 PM |
| 16 | Easier to accuse someone of being a racist than a misandristI have heard the term before but never really knew what it meant. I looked it up and it appears to be a real concept within social science backed by multiple studies, including one in 2017 by the University of Minnesota that determined women prefer men they describe as "dominant." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergamy | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/02/25 05:35 PM |
| 19 | Easier to accuse someone of being a racist than a misandristThis is sad but true. We are supposed to elevate the voices of men of color, unless they're saying misandry is real. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/02/25 04:09 PM |
| 1 | How is it possible ?Engels and Marx were referring to patriarchal family systems where men owned wives and kids like property and would leave their inheritance, etc. He's talking about systems of marriage and family that existed thousands of years ago. From Engels: "It is based on the supremacy of the man, the express purpose being to produce children of undisputed paternity; such paternity is demanded because these children are later to come into their father’s property as his natural heirs. It is distinguished fr… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/02/25 04:54 PM |
| 21 | Breaking: NCFM Files Suit in California for not having a Commission on the Status of Boys and Men while having one for Women and Girls which receives millions in funding annuallyThis is awesome news! NCFM has fought and won cases like this before. If they win this case, California would have to establish a Commission For Men And Boys, which could open the doors for men's issues to be explored and addressed in the most populated state in the US. I'll be following this. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/02/25 03:47 PM |
| 4 | Can anyone name resources to learn about left wing politics or left wing in general ?Somebody already mentioned Karl Marx, and I agree. But if you're looking for a modern, plain-English breakdown of what Marx said and how it can apply today, check out professor Richard Wolff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1WUKahMm1s | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/02/25 03:24 PM |
| 3 | The Patriarchy is the left’s “DEI”/“woke”I am anti-feminism. I have explained why that is and what I believe feminism is to you in at least a couple other posts. I feel like you just skim my posts, you don't actually read or process them. Our exchanges don't seem to be very productive. EDIT: Changed wording to "anti-feminism" to make clear I am opposed to the theory, not the people themselves. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/25 05:56 PM |
| 1 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issues - Part 2Okay thanks! I will add this to my notes. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/25 04:12 PM |
| 1 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issues - Part 2Thank you for sharing this. Do you have a source for these numbers I can have in case they ask for one? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/25 03:48 PM |
| 29 | Can we return the sub to leftist male advocacy?Men are human beings and feminism is a theory about how the world works. That is not an insignificant difference. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/25 04:15 AM |
| 10 | Can we return the sub to leftist male advocacy?As I said, if you say it's a social construct, that is fine. To me, that would mean the construct of Woman is simply a set of traditions, styles, and expectations placed upon females. Obviously those can change through time and between different societies. But the only way we would even know to teach womanliness to a girl is because we objectively can tell she's female. The cultural layer is dependent upon the biological foundation. A man can adopt those traditions, styles, and expectations for … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/25 03:13 AM |
| 20 | Can we return the sub to leftist male advocacy?I would like to see those divisive narratives disappear too, hence my opposition to feminism's story of man as oppressor, woman as victim. "Woman" is not an assumption, it's an actual, real phenomenon that exists in nature. If you want to call it a social construct, you can, but it is constructed atop a biological reality that is immutable. Call me what you will, nature remains the same. I am certain you've seen both radical feminism and misandry, but I am confused as to what your approach to th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/25 02:58 AM |
| 7 | What are the essential basics someone new to male advocacy should know?Wear it like a badge of honor. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/25 02:13 AM |
| 1 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issues - Part 2If you mean help with my DEI exploration, I would say just send me any ideas for questions to ask at the meetings or issues you feel like should be brought up. Anybody can message me and leave suggestions. If you mean help with the broader cultural shift, there are tons of things that male advocates and their allies can do. If you haven't already, you can go sign the petition below to get the circumstraint subreddit banned. That sub fetishizes infant male genital mutilation. We have a duty to bo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/25 02:08 AM |
| 36 | Can we return the sub to leftist male advocacy?I agree that zingers and attempts at mic-drop moments are too common, but that seems to be most of social media. It's just part of the landscape. The shorter a post, the more upvotes it gets. People maybe don't want to read longer posts even if they're more insightful. Feminism is an important factor in the discussion about men's issues because it is one of the single greatest sources of resistance to those discussions. Propagating a theory that says men belong to an oppressor class and women be… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/02/25 11:14 PM |
| 34 | The Patriarchy is the left’s “DEI”/“woke”This is a good post. One thing I want to add in here is that the cracks are starting to show in the foundation of this patriarchy theory. Feminists are routinely telling us now that "patriarchy hurts men, too," in response to the unavoidable evidence that men are falling further and further behind women in society. Rather than admit the theory is falling apart, feminists twist it around to try to make it fit into a world where it no longer fits. This is identical to how fundamentalist Christians… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/02/25 09:32 PM |
| 10 | We have to be Anti-Red Pill the same way we are Anti-RacistOP calls for a world where men can be peaceful and then fills their subsequent comments with anger, accusations, belligerence, and condescension. The dialog in this thread is very sad. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/25 11:02 PM |
| 2 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issues - Part 2It might sound cynical, but I feel like all men who have some kind of intersection with minority status, whether they're a racial minority, gay, or anything else, need to start pushing their experience as a minority in parallel with their experience as men. I've found that people are a lot more cautious about challenging my experiences with misandry if I compare them to my experiences with homophobia. Not everyone is comfortable speaking about these issues, and maybe others have had negative exp… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/25 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Masculinity needs to eradicatedFair enough, I respect that. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/25 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Masculinity needs to eradicatedWhat about the part where I said that masculinity starts in biology? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/25 05:19 PM |
| 1 | Masculinity needs to eradicatedIf male and female babies are drawn to different things, where does that divide come from? What would cause the boys to like physical, pragmatic things and girls to like social, emotional things? Male and female athletes both have endurance and muscle, yes. Women have some testosterone in their bodies. Men just have a much larger amount. We segregate men and women in sports in order to prevent women from being overwhelmed by the physical advantages men have as a result of their huge quantities o… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/25 05:08 PM |
| 3 | Masculinity needs to eradicatedI am sensing there's a definite split in the way we interpret the world that is going to make it hard to build a bridge here. I believe more of our behaviors and identity are dictated to us by nature than we wish to admit. I do believe that society can influence our perception of ourselves. Society tends to either move you closer to, or farther away from, your 'biological roots,' so to speak. The problem is that people take a departure from biology to mean that biology was invalid or didn't appl… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/25 04:41 PM |
| 2 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issues - Part 2I am not sure how I want to proceed. I think the starting place for me at work would be to try to get recognition of men's issues in the newsletter and maybe try to get a few meetings started. The DEI director expressed interest in holding meetings for the entire DEI group on men's issues. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/25 03:50 PM |
| 2 | Masculinity needs to eradicatedMerriam-Webster defines masculinity as "the quality or nature of the male sex : the quality, state, or degree of being masculine or manly." This is good enough for me. But I also think it's broad enough to include behaviors or roles, too, but I find it far more useful to distinguish between roles and attributes. The reason I make that distinction is because I've met so many men (especially younger ones) who are alienated from masculinity and they feel like they aren't allowed to have it because … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/25 03:06 PM |
| 8 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issues - Part 2Thank you for elaborating. I understand now what you're saying. I feel like I already understand the effects of intersectionality in this situation. These problems have all been on my radar for years because I've been talking to men of color about them for years. I know that the DEI officers involved in these discussions understand intersectionality, too. They've pointed out some of these same things you're saying. One thing the DEI officer in our first meeting told me was that black boys are pe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/25 03:32 AM |
| 9 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issues - Part 2Can you walk me through your reasoning here in more detail? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/25 01:24 AM |
| 0 | Masculinity needs to eradicatedI am curious about what you're saying here, as well as the other post you made in this thread. It appears you're saying masculinity is a set of psychological traits. You mentioned in your other post that masculinity is present in all people. You said in your other post that masculinity is natural. How do you know what it is and where it comes from? Is "masculinity" just a label you're applying to specific traits? How do you know if a trait is masculine or feminine? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/02/25 08:03 PM |
| 1 | Masculinity needs to eradicatedI disagree with your ideas. Masculinity is biological. Another term for it is "male secondary sex characteristics." This is stuff like muscularity, height, body hair, deep voice, and so on. I think what you're referring to in your post are gender roles. These are the social expectations placed upon men. I argue that gender roles extended from biology because nature suited men and women to do different tasks. Men make naturally better hunters and warriors, so our expected roles have had us act as… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/02/25 06:40 PM |
| 13 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issues - Part 2Thank you man, I appreciate it! They are really listening, and I feel hopeful there's a change happening in the culture for men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/02/25 06:15 PM |
| 72 | A male student was accused of sexual harassment. Ventura College failed to provide him proper notice of the allegations so he could prepare a defense. The Department of Education investigated, found the College at fault, and just recently released its findings.I'm glad that the college is being held accountable. What happens to the student now? Aren't cases like this also involved with the police? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/02/25 05:58 PM |
| 12 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issues - Part 2I want to make it clear that I am advocating for all men. The context of our meetings has not been about white males only. You may want to read part 1 of this series if you have not yet. We have had three meetings so far, and more are coming, but only our most recent meeting heavily focused on treatment of white people in general, not just men. The conversations we have frequently crisscross between race, gender, sexuality, culture, etc, because we are frequently drawing parallels between the ex… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/02/25 05:53 PM |
| 11 | We are looking for more signatures on the petition to remove routine infant circumcision fetish community r/CircumstraintFor anyone who wants to go an extra step, you can report subs to Reddit here: https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360001103212 I selected the following settings on my report: What Do You Need Assistance With: Community Help What Is Your Community Concern: I Want to Report A Subreddit For Violating The Reddit Rules What Subreddit Is Involved: Circumstraint What Is The Primary Reason You Are Reporting This Subreddit: Sexual/Suggestive Content Of Minors Details Of In… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/02/25 03:55 PM |
| 16 | We are looking for more signatures on the petition to remove routine infant circumcision fetish community r/CircumstraintSigned. We've gotten these subs banned before, and by god, we'll do it again. These people need help. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/02/25 03:37 PM |
| 12 | Discussing gender issues--my friend wants me to abandon the 'MRA' label because they feel the movement is beyond redemption and I don't want to be guilty by association of propping up the far rightThere's a difference between boxing somebody in (that's what is happening to OP) and challenging somebody's views. Friends can challenge your views, sure. But just because your friend tells you, "I think you're being hateful" doesn't mean it's true, and it would be wrong to respond immediately by changing your stance without analyzing it first. Analyzing your own views after a friend protests them and deciding you should change is still you being in charge of your own stance, whereas changing yo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/25 07:21 PM |
| 38 | Discussing gender issues--my friend wants me to abandon the 'MRA' label because they feel the movement is beyond redemption and I don't want to be guilty by association of propping up the far rightYou should never, ever allow other people to tell you what you should be. I don't care if they're friends, family, politicians, preachers, influencers, academics, whatever. Tell them what you need in order to feel respected and safe. You might need to communicate to them how you feel caught between all these competing ideas and that you feel boxed in, but stand firm in what you believe. You need those boundaries with your friends, and if your friends aren't willing to respect your boundaries the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/25 04:45 PM |
| 3 | Are men (especially if you are white and straight) the most disliked group of people or something?It's of no matter whether or not you believe in conscription. That doesn't mean that it doesn't exist and hasn't killed millions of men. That doesn't mean that it isn't still a thing in major nations like the US and, despite the fact that women are now allowed volunteer for combat, only men are still required to register for conscription. With circumcision, the law in the US says it's legal to cut boys but not girls. There are thirty states that have laws banning female genital cutting but which… | /r/MenSupportMen | 04/02/25 04:18 PM |
| 9 | Are men (especially if you are white and straight) the most disliked group of people or something?I am a gay white man, so I check two of the three boxes for the identities you're examining here. It has been open season on white males and heterosexuals for a long time because western society has a powerful school of thought which says that hate is wrong only if it's directed at a group that has already been marginalized. The problem is that by normalizing hatred against a group (such as white, straight men) you are opening the first door toward making them a marginalized group. What mechanis… | /r/MenSupportMen | 04/02/25 04:04 PM |
| 5 | I feel abandoned by men, what has caused so much anger?Thank you, I appreciate that. That is a good question to ask. If I understand right, you're asking, "What do we need from each other in order to have a constructive and peaceful interaction?" Is that a fair interpretation of what you're asking? Would that apply to interactions between men and women in general, just this type of conversation, or dating? Or maybe all of it? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/02/25 09:49 PM |
| 29 | I feel abandoned by men, what has caused so much anger?I am sorry about the things you've experienced. I admire your willingness to talk about it and advocate, even in the face of such ugliness as you've been subjected to. A lot of us feel shunned and hurt, demonized and unwanted. For some, they aren't interested in constructive dialog. Expressing pain is their only goal. You aren't obligated to be a punching bag for others to take their frustrations out on. For a lot of men, the reason they are so angry is because they have been treated like a punc… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/02/25 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Feeling like in not going hard enoughIt sort of depends on what your goals are and what you value. If there's one that really speaks to you, maybe you should just follow that one. Which of these would you be most excited to get out of bed for in the morning? Which of these are you willing to accept may one day go from being a passion to just a job? Are you more concerned about making money or fulfilling a dream? When you're getting started on developing a talent, a craft, etc, it's easy to get bored and move onto something else. I … | /r/MenSupportMen | 03/02/25 08:26 PM |
| 2 | Final Update after 3? YearsI don't know your story, but it sounds like you've been through some very difficult things. It's great that you have an apartment for yourself. As you settle into your new place you'll feel safer and more at home. I am certain you will. Please make a post here any time you need someone to talk to. There are people here to support you! | /r/MenSupportMen | 03/02/25 03:08 PM |
| 1 | Dismantling the insane hypocrisy of the people who accuse those AGAINST circumcision of being "weird" and "obsessed" for thinking about it, instead of those doing/defending itThe way I would address this would be point out I am not thinking about their genitals, I am thinking about the entire human those genitals belong to. I am thinking about his autonomy. I am thinking about what could happen to his sense of self-worth when he learns that he was carved up like a steak to please others because his body wasn't good enough the way nature made it. I am thinking about how he should have the chance to decide for himself whether or not he wants to undergo a cosmetic surge… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/02/25 01:39 AM |
| 24 | Why is the left losing younger men to the right?What feminists should call out is the way in which women were facilitating that conversation. It's not wrong to talk about women's safety. What is wrong is to compare men to dangerous animals. That is dehumanization. That is what we do to groups we hate. I once heard a preacher refer to gays as dogs. Was that an appropriate way for the preacher to express his views of homosexuality? Could he have said he disapproved of it without likening gays to dogs? Does the fact that he was so openly willing… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/02/25 08:43 PM |
| 64 | Why is the left losing younger men to the right?If it's true that feminism is advocating for men, where are the feminists calling out all of the hateful rhetoric against men and boys? How did "man versus bear" become a meme without getting dogpiled by feminists on social media calling it out? How did a movement that was actively fighting sexist language in the 70s and 80s allow overtly sexist words like "mansplaining" and "manspreading" to get added into actual dictionaries? Why doesn't the enormous feminist apparatus in academia, media, and … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/02/25 02:17 PM |
| 1 | Traditional masculinity shouldn’t be something men strive forThere's plenty of "men aren't necessary" sentiment out there, and it's been there for a long time. There's a certain school of thought that is eager to see men go away in one form or another, and my guess is they're a good portion of those sounding the "toxic masculinity" alarm. I do want to comment on the men who are voluntarily rejecting masculinity. Some men grew up without male role models, and some grew up being told masculinity is bad. They are simply alienated from masculinity. They don't… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/01/25 11:40 PM |
| 1 | Traditional masculinity shouldn’t be something men strive forYes, we cannot deny that the parts of masculinity deemed to be the most "toxic" are the parts that make men the most difficult to control or understand. Generally when society has gone around telling groups, "your identity is a problem and needs reconfigured," it's never been a good thing. Again it's good for men to be liberated from gender roles they find constricting. But there's a big difference between individual men rejecting the roles they don't want forced upon them and men being emascula… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/01/25 11:13 PM |
| 13 | Trump has basically made it impossible to be anti-DEI policies without sounding like a racist lunaticYou're allowed to have any stance you want on any issue. You do not need the cooperation or permission of a political party to hold your point of view. The idea that taking a sensible position on DEI or immigration is "supporting fascism" is a product of extreme partisan purity that we need to reject, as it's putting us all in danger. In this instance, the fear of being called out for rejecting DEI is a result of Democrats calling anybody who doesn't agree with them a fascist. They've been doing… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/01/25 03:36 PM |
| 42 | State 'bias response hotlines' - does anybody want to try reporting misandric rethoric and see what happens?This is fucking horrific. The idea of reporting offensive language to the government is literally ripped from the pages of 1984. Thankfully, I do not live in a state where these programs operate. I understand the desire to at least verify these systems operate fairly, but my guess is they do not. If somebody reports misandry, please let us know what happens. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/01/25 07:42 PM |
| 36 | GQ Article: "Can Pat Ryan Help Democrats Win Men Back"?So long as they're talking about needing to redefine masculinity, we know they still think the only problem men have is themselves. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/01/25 03:23 PM |
| 12 | Traditional masculinity shouldn’t be something men strive forI think we need to be cautious about telling people what to strive for in expressing their own identity. What one person considers restrictive another person will find to be liberating. This phenomenon of taking masculinity apart and trying to fix it, problematize it, or reinvent it is a product of misandrist thinking that says masculinity is not valid. Masculinity is valid in all its forms. The real issue is people taking offense at it, wanting to control it, threatening to take it away from us… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/01/25 04:22 PM |
| 25 | CBS: How Trump Connected With MenThey're probably going to double down. That's what they always do. Let them continue alienating everyone, including blacks and Latinos. They will double down themselves out of existence eventually. The Democrats have this idea that they do not need to adapt to survive. They believe their survival is owed to them by the universe. The best thing for men to be doing right now is not worry so much about what people are saying about us but worry about organizing and projecting a message to the world … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/25 02:26 AM |
| 18 | CBS: How Trump Connected With MenI was going to write a reply about how this type of reductionist all-or-nothing thinking can be turned against a person really quick, but you've nailed it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/25 01:27 AM |
| 17 | CBS: How Trump Connected With MenI wasn't crediting Reeves with anything. I have serious issues with his takes like most of us here. I only even mentioned him because I wanted people to have fair warning they were going to hear from him in this video lol. This is about how awesome it is that men's issues are being discussed seriously in mainstream media after decades of being ignored or mocked. Let's take the win. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/25 11:34 PM |
| 1 | An Old Woman Gave me Romance Novels When I Was a ChildI understand what you're saying. I see that you've been active in this topic defending OP from people who are outright dismissing him. I am not dismissing him. I believe that kids can be affected by all sorts of things in a negative way that may not immediately appear as harmful to adults. I do not like that there are people in here just rolling their eyes at his experience, so I appreciate that you are willing to challenge them. My only thing was that I do not think I can know for a fact what w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/01/25 03:49 PM |
| 6 | An Old Woman Gave me Romance Novels When I Was a ChildEven OP says "I don't think that she meant anything by it." Since you already know what she was thinking, please enlighten the both of us. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/01/25 11:21 PM |
| 3 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issuesThis is another excellent point. Based on my experiences with him, I don't think the user will address it, but still an excellent point. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/25 11:07 PM |
| 3 | I feel like most guys just want acknowledgment that things can suck for men too.I should have known! I also grew up in a rural area around livestock and nature and none of us ever had any difficulties acknowledging biological reality. The natural world has a way of dictating things to us. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/25 10:48 PM |
| 2 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issuesI will be sure to post updates! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/25 10:44 PM |
| 2 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issuesHere is why I have disliked and criticized feminism for years: Our society delegitimizes men's issues and ridicules us when we try to speak about things that have hurt us deeply. Feminism is one major driver of that not by accident of a few bad actors, but by its very design. Feminist theory is to men what Marxism is to capitalists, except without the advantage of actually being right or making sense. Men are the oppressor class, women are the oppressed class. Because of the feminist theory sayi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/25 10:41 PM |
| 3 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issuesSome good points here, my dude. Also I want to piggyback off your post and add that you can have a society where the majority of positions of power are still held by my men but if those men are ideologically aligned with feminism, their actions do not propagate privilege to other males. Men in so many of those positions of power may be actively pushing feminist ideology and talking points. For instance, most of the men in the Democratic party. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/25 08:48 PM |
| 3 | An Old Woman Gave me Romance Novels When I Was a ChildYeah it definitely was not a good idea for her to give those to a kid. It's impossible to guess what she may or may not have been thinking, but it clearly affected you. I am sorry that happened to you. It's true that it basically all gets a pass. Romance novels don't come under intense scrutiny for their content or how it impacts people. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/25 08:42 PM |
| 3 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issuesI would like to discuss ways the DEI department could start including information about men's issues into their curriculum, include men's day on their calendar of diverse celebrations, etc. This is important because my company works with victims of abuse, including men and boys. Our agents take DEI training and it would be great if they were more familiar with the identities and needs of the men and boys they interact with. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/25 08:31 PM |
| 4 | I feel like most guys just want acknowledgment that things can suck for men too.You must get a lot of flack for being a bioessentialist. I do agree that we are wired a specific way or have inherent inclinations. I believe that a lot of gender roles are founded on biological traits. People take offense at this idea because they like to believe we are our own creations. They don't want to be captives of nature. But being wired a certain way doesn't mean we have to do things we don't want. Nor should we be forced to do things we don't want. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/25 08:11 PM |
| 6 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issuesFeminists having their entire theory of oppression collapse under the weight of their own success is not an issue of failing to articulate things correctly or being too extreme. It's a failure to let go of the past and live in the present. I'm not making a flawed argument when I say that 2025 is a very different place than 1925. One of the biggest difficulties I've always had in conversations like this is that feminists have a sort of unspoken rule that says, "if it was a certain way in the past… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/25 08:02 PM |
| 1 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issuesThe point is that these two DEI officers and myself wish to start unpacking the societal and legal conflicts between men and women. In the process, I am hoping to be able to relay information to them about men's issues and how they could be represented in DEI conversations, rather than just only wanting men as allies for women or to cast as perpetrators. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/25 06:31 PM |
| 12 | I feel like most guys just want acknowledgment that things can suck for men too.That was something that really jumped out at me. Seems like there was a real lack of team spirit among feminists. They were cutting down ambition when they should have been cheering it if they wanted to advance. I was confused about why they would trash women who do not fit a feminine stereotype. A feminist organization would be the last place I'd expect to see women wanting other women to conform to traditional femininity. I still am not understanding that. Perhaps the thing that stood out most… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/25 06:26 PM |
| 3 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issuesThank you for sharing your insights. What you're explaining to me is not new. I've heard this for years. The point I'm making is that this power structure model of patriarchy no longer explains the society we Americans live in. Movements like feminism have an odd habit of changing the world without noticing they're changing the world, thereby eliminating the need for their own movement. They meet their self-imposed irrelevance with denial and inflamed need to continue inventing conflicts to figh… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/25 06:01 PM |
| 22 | I feel like most guys just want acknowledgment that things can suck for men too.I read the essay at your suggestion and found it fascinating. Anyone interested please have a look at it: https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/trashing.htm I know it's generalizing, but I think it's also true, that when men engage in combat they leave scars everyone can see and women engaging in combat leave scars only a few can see, sometimes only the victim. Spectators who understand that what they're seeing is a character assassination will remain silent for fear of being ostracized next. For eve… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/25 04:06 PM |
| 3 | I feel like most guys just want acknowledgment that things can suck for men too.Beautifully put. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/25 03:01 PM |
| 11 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issuesI think this is an important distinction. I consider being comparatively stronger, and yes, being able to pee outside as perks of being male. But what I said was I don't believe in "meaningful" privileges. That is, I don't believe I have the world handed to me on a silver platter for being a man. I don't have special legal rights women don't have. In fact, it is the opposite. Women have legal rights men have never had, like the right to not have their genitals cut at birth, or the right to vote … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/25 10:22 PM |
| 18 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issuesI don't feel dehumanized by what she said. She was being honest because I asked her to be. I was honest in return. We don't mean, "I don't see you as human," we mean, "Help me understand how you experience the world." Trying to empathize with others is as human as it gets. There are obvious, meaningful differences in how various groups experience life, and it's important that they try to understand each other. I can't believe that you'd be any more comfortable with a white person telling you poi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/25 10:17 PM |
| 10 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issuesThat means a helluva lot to me bro, thank you. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/25 08:33 PM |
| 46 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issuesThe agency I work for interacts with victims of violence and abuse, including men and boys. If our DEI training, which is mandatory for all our agents, presented men's issues and identities in an accurate light, it would help our agents help those victims. There's also a chance it could help prevent men getting punished for things they may not have done. It could inspire more empathy and understanding. That's something worth losing my job for if it backfires. I can get another job. I may not get… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/25 06:25 PM |
| 43 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issuesI appreciate your concern and the concern of everyone else here. There's a certain amount of risk in everything. This is more than worth it to me. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/25 05:55 PM |
| 4 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issuesI'm afraid I don't understand your point. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/25 05:47 PM |
| 39 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issuesPeople used to get fired for being gay, or just supporting gay rights. Times change through people stepping out and saying what they believe is right regardless of consequences. Plus I can tell you my job is far more secure than theirs is right now. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/25 05:40 PM |
| 23 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issuesI appreciate your perspective but I want to make a few clarifications. Our lead DEI officer was the one who first said, "I don't understand men," and presented the idea of scheduling more meetings to explore the relationship between men and women more thoroughly. I cannot prove they're not just being disingenuous to set me up or something, but they've recognized that the idea that what people need are lectures about privilege and remediation doesn't work. The election was a shock to a lot of sec… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/25 05:36 PM |
| 59 | I talked to the DEI officers at work about men's issuesThis is a contradiction they discussed. They're aware that there is no diversity in a department being all female, all black, etc. They are also aware it is these contradictions, among other things, that has made DEI such a toxic thing. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/25 05:28 PM |
| 7 | Castrato | MGM/Castration | Abuse | Child Rights?Basic body autonomy for men and boys hasn't existed in any civilization at any point in time that I am aware of. EDIT: As I am thinking about this, the next time somebody says "men have never been oppressed" I am going to say, "Imagine having your testicles cut off so your singing voice is more pleasing to others." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/25 12:33 AM |
| 1 | How can we try to solve the Male Loneliness Epidemic? Let's come up with some ideas together and discuss them.I actually do love to beat the 'technology = bad' drum. I think every technology that's invented is paid for by just a little bit more of human experience and freedom. Collectively, it all adds up to a prison without bars. But I don't think technology is exclusively to blame in the loneliness epidemic. I think it's a combination of technology and capitalism. Those two things work together to alienate and isolate people. I definitely agree that one of the single biggest factors is time. People do… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/01/25 07:44 PM |
| 13 | Are gender roles stopping men from being satisfied ?This is the best answer. I have no problem with people choosing gender roles for themselves, but but we should not liberate one half the population from their traditional roles while forcing the other half to continue upholding their own. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/25 03:03 PM |
| 1 | GALDEF Is Fighting Circumcision In The US. You Can Help.I am sincerely glad for you. I do not want you to feel a sense of shame about your body. The issue at the heart of this discussion is about consent. Each person should have the right to choose for themselves if they want to be circumcised rather than having it forced upon them. Babies cannot give informed consent and so they should be protected until they're old enough to decide for themselves if they want to be circumcised. The practice would not be banned for adults, only for nonconsenting min… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/25 02:49 PM |
| 6 | Noticed something strangeI understand this. I wish that we had a proper left in the US but we don't. When I use the term "left" I am referring to what the average American perceives as being left even though it's still very conservative to other nations. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/01/25 09:28 PM |
| 24 | Noticed something strangeI am glad men are leaving the left/Democrats. They shouldn't stay where they're being mistreated. I don't believe the right is necessarily good for men either, but they don't loathe men the way the left does. I'm happy that there is a real conversation happening now about men as a demographic and I am happy that the side men flocked to won. The reason I am happy is because it reminds everyone that men do still count, men are a demographic worth courting, and hopefully the Democrats will reflect … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/01/25 09:21 PM |
| 30 | Noticed something strangeI know lots of people are feeling politically homeless these days, but it seems men are especially marooned here. The whiter, straighter, and maler you get the more the Dems scoff at you. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/01/25 06:56 PM |
| 125 | Noticed something strangeI don't know about third world countries, but in places like the USA what we would call the left has been the absolute loudest mouthpiece for "men have caused all the problems in the universe" for generations now. Men do not want to align themselves with a movement whose worldview casts them as villains. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/01/25 04:17 PM |
| 6 | Healing MisandryI am really happy this conversation is helping you. Yes, there are misogynists and entitled men out there, too. I should've pointed that out in my first reply. And yes there are real, actual rapists out there. I am not meaning to downplay that reality. You mentioned needing a better 'red flag detector,' and I think that's a really good way of looking at it. It's the most practical thing any of us can do. If you are good at catching red flags, you are much more likely to filter the people out of … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/01/25 09:37 PM |
| 11 | Healing MisandryYour friend's behavior is alarming. I am a man in my thirties, and I would be deeply uncomfortable around your friend if he was talking and acting like that. I don't know how old this person is but he sounds like a high schooler. He's invading your projects at work, making inappropriate comments, and lying. Those are all very disrespectful things. You are right to feel wary and no longer trust him. Have confidence to trust your judgment in individual cases like this while understanding that this… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/01/25 04:51 PM |
| 30 | "Male High School Students More Likely Than Females to Ask for Verbal Consent Before Sex"- A recent survey by CDCSame. I've been sexually assaulted a few times, and each time it was by women. Each of them knew I was gay. They genuinely do not think it is something that's wrong for them to do. The sense of entitlement in society to male bodies is mind bending. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/01/25 01:36 AM |
| 16 | How can we try to solve the Male Loneliness Epidemic? Let's come up with some ideas together and discuss them.I found a pretty good club but the first rule is I am not supposed to talk about. The second rule is also that I am not supposed to talk about it. For real, I am wanting to get back into some sports. I played volleyball in high school and really miss it. Also interested in finding people to play music with. I'm a musician and enjoy jamming. The question is if the loneliness epidemic is a result of nobody going out to do things anymore. I went to a mall last month because I was bored and it was p… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/01/25 01:30 AM |
| 16 | "Male High School Students More Likely Than Females to Ask for Verbal Consent Before Sex"- A recent survey by CDCI sincerely hope that things start turning around rapidly for you and all the other guys out there trying to date in this mess. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/01/25 12:04 AM |
| 39 | "Male High School Students More Likely Than Females to Ask for Verbal Consent Before Sex"- A recent survey by CDCI have felt a sense of gratitude for being gay for years now. Interactions are so much simpler and direct. None of this "be respectful; no not like that!!" bullshit. "Be respectful" works well enough. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/01/25 10:48 PM |
| 6 | So. What have we actually accomplished here.I also feel this is an issue. I am a wordy person so it's no problem for me to sit there and bang out an essay or something about men's issues, but people need to feel free to just casually start discussions and brainstorm ideas. It doesn't have to be a deep systemic analysis for it to be helpful. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/01/25 07:57 PM |
| 124 | "Male High School Students More Likely Than Females to Ask for Verbal Consent Before Sex"- A recent survey by CDCThis doesn't surprise me since society widely casts males as predatory. Even if the messaging is supposedly presented as gender neutral, we know that the prevailing attitude is that boys are the only ones who really need to hear it. Boys don't want to be seen as predators. So when society paints them as the biggest predators, of course they are making the biggest effort to not be seen as such. This is how it always goes. Men get told, "do better," and when we comply with the rules even more cons… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/01/25 07:53 PM |
| 2 | Starting life anewI'd say just figure out what area you want to live in and then start searching for jobs in that area. You may need to make some trips back and forth if in-person interviews are required, to look at housing, etc. Don't forget to budget in the cost of stuff like a U-Haul if you can't pack everything you own into your car. | /r/MenSupportMen | 11/01/25 07:39 PM |
| 2 | The 10-Step Plan To Escape The Blackpill, Gain Confidence, And Improve YourselfThank you for doing this. I hope that the guys out there who need to hear it will hear it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/01/25 06:43 PM |
| 4 | So. What have we actually accomplished here.I will be happy to do a write up about GALDEF. I definitely understand that money is tight for many, many people. GALDEF accepts both onetime and recurring donations and you can donate as little as a single dollar. Anything you can give will help. 80 percent of your donation goes straight to funding the legal fight against genital mutilation in the US. Those who cannot donate can spread the word on social media, encourage others to donate, or even join GALDEF's mission, if they so happen to have… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/01/25 04:31 PM |
| 12 | So. What have we actually accomplished here.GALDEF (The Genital Autonomy Legal Defense And Education Fund) is currently engaged in a wide variety of legal actions to protect boys from genital mutilation. There are about 30 states that have laws protecting girls from cutting but not boys. GALDEF will be suing these states on equal protection grounds to expand the bills to protect boys. They only need to win in one of these states to set a precedent. They are also currently funding individual men who are suing the doctors and hospitals that… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/01/25 04:13 PM |
| 13 | So. What have we actually accomplished here.Give your own community a little credit. We had just recently circulated a petition in this community to ban the "CircMoms2" subreddit where they were celebrating infant male genital mutilation. People here signed the petition. We took screenshots and reported the sub and its posts. That sub is banned now. The petition and the submissions worked. I agree that it would be awesome to see this spill out into the real world but this community is not entirely defeatist or inactive. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/01/25 03:40 PM |
| 9 | So. What have we actually accomplished here.I have found some sense of community here. I personally agree that it would be awesome to see real-world activism forming here. It can be a downer coming in here and only finding negativity, or "whining" if we want to call it that. But I also think that men have been forbidden from whining for so long, we've been told our pain isn't real for so long, that maybe guys just need to be able to whine and not be told they're imagining their pain. But there is no use for outright negativity that says n… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/01/25 03:31 PM |
| 67 | The Biden administration's Title IX rule that reduces due process for students/teachers accused of sexual misconduct was struck down today. Not just a temporary injunction; the rule was vacated in its entirety.This is fucking awesome news. This the kind of thing we're here for. Massively celebratory bro-hugs for everyone in here. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/01/25 11:14 PM |
| 21 | Richard Reeves On The Daily Show, Many Of The Issues Discussed In This Forum Are MentionedThere are a lot of valid criticisms of Richard Reeves and his appearance here. But overall we have to appreciate that this is a sign of progress. The fact he went on something like the Daily Show to talk about men's issues and wasn't laughed/booed off the stage is a sign of real progress. If nothing else, appreciate that time was even given to this conversation. Remember, a lot of movements have to make these repetitive apologies for taking up space and assurances that they aren't here to take a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/01/25 04:26 PM |
| 8 | Need a manly adviceYes we have all experienced this before. Life is not all sunshine and boners. There are difficult times and it's totally normal to lose interest in sex in those moments. That includes not being able to get hard. You're going through a lot and you will need time to work through it all. There's nothing wrong with you, this is normal for the situation you're in. You're not less of a man. It's not going to hurt her self esteem if she understands what's going on, and it sounds like you've explained i… | /r/MenSupportMen | 08/01/25 03:41 AM |
| 1 | How can we get people to care about men's issues?I know what you're saying, but the successful people in our society will always be vastly outnumbered by those who are struggling. Focus on those who are already struggling. They're the majority. Money insulates people from literally everything. People who have lots of money live in a very different world from everyone else. The thing about the "manosphere" is that people talk about it like it's this spiderweb that's ensnaring gullible people who don't know what they need. Maybe that's true in s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/25 04:26 PM |
| 6 | How can we get people to care about men's issues?I don't think it is desirable to try to start off with the goal being mass mobilization. Unless you've got a bunch of infrastructure and money, we have to start with just the men around us and whoever we can reach online. This needs to be done without judgment of men's politics or beliefs. We can't say, "we support men's rights, but not THOSE men." You can start conversations with guys around you about men's issues and see what they think. You should also give them space to tell you what their i… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/01/25 11:58 PM |
| 25 | How can we get people to care about men's issues?Mobilization of men is the answer. Women had to mobilize to make feminism happen. Workers had to mobilize to make the class war happen. Men will have to mobilize to make men's rights happen. Keep in mind that no movement starts out with legitimacy in the eyes of the general public. Otherwise there wouldn't be a need for the movement. People have to see us out there, and they have to hear us making good arguments. In this way, the public moves through the stages of, "I didn't know that was even a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/01/25 11:00 PM |
| 3 | I don't want to text girls anymore...It is a truly unfair and fucked up situation. But better to protect yourself. | /r/MenSupportMen | 06/01/25 03:29 PM |
| 2 | I think the lesson that we should learn from feminism is that gender-based organising is a dead-endI agree we cannot flatten everything into neatly organized categories designed to be fed to each demographic. But we live in an extremely diverse world where there are issues that exist solely because humans are divided into different categories by color, sex, etc. My fear is that by saying "this issue is about everyone," you risk ignoring that fact that some of these issues actually are not about everyone and are targeted at individual groups. In this context I am focusing on legal issues becau… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/01/25 11:57 PM |
| 15 | I think the lesson that we should learn from feminism is that gender-based organising is a dead-endIt seems to me the problem you're identifying doesn't really have anything to do with whether or not a movement is about a specific identity, such as gender or sexual orientation, etc. Any successful movement for change will be doomed to irrelevancy as it fixes the problems with the world it set out to address. Any movement that continues to linger after it is no longer needed will become a joke at best and a force of division and hate at worst. The answer is not to stop people from organizing a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/01/25 08:45 PM |
| 2 | The Casual Victimhood the Online LibfemWe (broader society) have zero concept in society of what female privilege might look like even though it exists all around us. There is also zero chance it will ever become a concept in the mainstream if there's not a popular revolt against the establishment narratives. Most attempts to point out female privilege are either dismissed as not real or they're justified as correction for past injustice. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/25 08:03 PM |
| 4 | I don't want to text girls anymore...I think with people taking forever to reply, that is kind of just an unavoidable part of communicating with tech. People just don't feel a need to reply promptly. Outside of asking for a prompt reply, like "can you let me know by this evening?" or something like that, I don't know how else to handle it. With the flirtation, if it makes you feel uncomfortable, that is perfectly valid. You don't have to subject yourself to unwanted advances. If you were a woman receiving unwanted advances from the… | /r/MenSupportMen | 04/01/25 07:18 PM |
| 23 | AdviceIf you're really interested in discussing this with feminists, you can ask how you caring about men's issues is hurting women. They won't be able to give you a coherent answer that isn't about men's issues being unimportant, a distraction from women's issues, or just offensive. The lack of a coherent answer from somebody when you ask them to explain their point is usually a sign they're full of shit and arguing from some place other than logic. If you're feeling guilty for advocating for men's r… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/25 03:38 PM |
| 11 | Progressive Male Advocacy Discord Server: A Community for Informed Conversations on Men's IssuesThe number of people in this world willing to speak up for men's issues is already very small. Imposing rules banning an entire political wing, people who believe biology has profound impacts on our drives and behavior, or people who are feeling depressed and hopeless (which describes a lot of men who need a movement the most right now) is going to further limit the number of people you can rally together. It's odd that you say "no bigots" and in the very next line on your list, you invite femin… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/12/24 01:38 AM |
| 10 | How do you view men who support Gynarchy/Matriarchy?Made me think of Uncle Ruckus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z2kNKKtuxI | /r/MenSupportMen | 26/12/24 10:43 PM |
| 5 | 27 years old man secret mental breakdownI'm sorry she took advantage of you and your family like that. What really sucks is that she turned others against you and they allowed her to do it. That is awful. I went through a bad breakup at about the same age as you. I am in my mid-thirties and I can say I only got over that breakup within the last year. I spent more time grieving that relationship than I spent in that relationship. Don't make the same mistake. It's not worth it. Getting back into the gym is a great idea. Getting off ciga… | /r/MenSupportMen | 26/12/24 04:09 PM |
| 17 | Protested Routine Infant Circumcision ♥️That takes a lot of courage. Thank you for putting yourself out there like that. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/12/24 03:19 PM |
| 8 | Experiences with Reproductive Rights and Bodily AutonomyOP asked for both body autonomy and paternal rights issues. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/12/24 07:18 PM |
| 10 | Experiences with Reproductive Rights and Bodily AutonomyYes, you are condescending. Treating people like they are "morons" and "cringe" for not saying or believing the right things is a major part of why the Democrats lost. Not the only reason, but a big one. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/12/24 05:11 PM |
| 10 | Experiences with Reproductive Rights and Bodily AutonomyYou are being extremely disrespectful and making a lot of assumptions on two sentences that were both questions. The user to whom you're speaking does not claim to be a leftist. According to their flair, they are a right-wing guest. Perhaps it is you who should learn to read. And perhaps your condescending attitude is why the Democrats lost the election in a landslide. To our right-wing guest, please do not let this individual poison you against all leftists. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/12/24 04:49 PM |
| 18 | Experiences with Reproductive Rights and Bodily AutonomyThe motivations for doing such a thing to a baby are varied. It doesn't really matter. You can think it all you like, but you should not be allowed to do it. I don't care about telling people they're wrong, I care about protecting babies from having knives shoved into their genitals. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/12/24 04:40 PM |
| 62 | Experiences with Reproductive Rights and Bodily AutonomyOne issue pertaining to body autonomy that at least half the men in the US are affected by is circumcision. I prefer to call it genital mutilation, but no matter what you call it, other people being able to cut off a piece of your penis without your consent is an enormous body autonomy issue. It's an issue that did a lot of trauma to me. An issue related to paternal rights is bias against fathers in family courts. Mothers overwhelmingly are awarded custody of the children in divorce court. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/12/24 03:34 PM |
| 34 | "Male-Dominated"Not everyone I've heard use that term has done it in a way that implies it's a bad thing, but it often is portrayed as a bad thing due to the fact that society centers the feminist point of view in everything. Male dominated = a territory captured by oppressive men who are keeping women out. Female dominated = a territory liberated by our glorious forces of fighting feminists. Our gynocentrist society has conditioned us to see groups of men as being inherently exclusive of women because we alway… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/12/24 02:40 PM |
| 3 | Are you Men’s Rights or Men’s Liberation?What I mean to say is that because I've read Marx and feel I have a pretty solid understanding of how his model of class struggle works, it's cringe to watch feminists attempt to apply the same kind of oppressor/oppressed analysis to the relationship between men and women in society. I'm comparing one very detailed model that makes a lot of sense (Marx's analysis of capitalist versus worker) to another model (feminists' man versus woman) that falls apart under scrutiny. So feminists are cosplayi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/12/24 03:02 PM |
| 5 | Super Hella Fucked. Please send positive vibesYou're going through a tough time, dude. No doubt about it. You have not failed your wife or your son. Struggling is not the same thing as failing. Don't compare yourself to others. There's always someone better off, and someone worse off. What counts is working on your situation, because that is how it's going to get better. You can do this. | /r/MenSupportMen | 21/12/24 04:43 AM |
| 17 | Are you Men’s Rights or Men’s Liberation?I personally believe that certain gender roles exist because of evolution. A lot of people find meaning in traditional gender roles for themselves, and that's great. But it's wrong to force people to fulfill roles they do not want, and it's wrong to reject those people if they refuse. All people should be free to live as they wish. Feminism has no value for men, and actively hurts men. It's a doctrine that casts men as its devil. And speaking of gender roles I do not want to be assigned, "oppres… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/24 09:42 PM |
| 2 | Queer men also suffer from men’s issuesI think it could definitely be seen that way. I guess I just always looked at it like straight meant "mainstream" since the majority of people are heterosexual. But aside from "straight," what is the shorthand for "heterosexual" that you use? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/24 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Queer men also suffer from men’s issuesI've never heard of "straight" being a homophobic term before. I've never felt offended by it. I thought it was just shorthand for "heterosexual" like gay is for "homosexual." It's a term we apply to heterosexuals, so we should probably also check with them if it bothers them. Any heterosexuals have an opinion? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/24 06:56 PM |
| 9 | I hate being called "One of the good ones."I'm interested in this question about misandry across generations. My guess has been for a while that Gen Z is less misandrist than older generations. Like they don't see sexism as okay just because it's targeted at males. I understand there are misandrists within every generation, but I just feel like zoomers are less likely to tolerate it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/24 02:38 PM |
| 9 | Queer men also suffer from men’s issuesFeminists also insist that gay and bi men are privileged compared even to straight women. They've told me this to my face, and they were doing it at a time when only straight people could get married in my state. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/24 01:38 AM |
| 30 | I hate being called "One of the good ones."I feel you. Yeah, it's really insulting. No, they don't care. You can call them out but people generally don't care about those they see as inferior. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/24 12:20 AM |
| 11 | Swatting At The Gadfly; Being A Queer Dude Means Belonging Everywhere And Being Accepted NowhereAny group that associates masculinity with power (regardless of whether or not it is is sensible to do so) wants to know that such power is on their side and under their control. Conservatives aren't necessarily hostile to masculine power but hold men in contempt for what conservatives perceive as dereliction of duty to be traditionally masculine. So they want masculine power on their side and under their control. Feminist or progressive spaces view masculinity as a form of social power and phys… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/24 12:13 AM |
| 12 | Queer men also suffer from men’s issuesI am happy that you are growing from the experiences you've had. The extreme tension between and around every single identity in the western world at this point makes it very difficult to just be. Did you talk to that person at the party about misandry? If a woman transitions to a man, if she were a misandrist before transitioning, then it might be difficult to let go of that hate if it were a deeply embedded part of that person's world view. But you'd think that having to actually be on the rec… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/24 02:07 AM |
| 23 | Queer men also suffer from men’s issuesYes, the classic example is the "homophobia is gay" slogan that lefties love to use like it's suddenly okay for them to use "gay" as a put down if it's in service of wokeness. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/24 01:09 AM |
| 22 | Queer men also suffer from men’s issuesHomophobia can be real hit-or-miss. It's not pervasive enough for gay boys to grow up hating men. Even if it were far more consistent among straight men, I doubt it would cause gay men to resent men or maleness. Gay men who were/are rejected a lot by other males don't tend to resent males, they long for them. They want to have male friends, but don't know how to be accepted. Some may turn that into resentment eventually but I've never known a gay man who hated men for that reason. I already repl… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/24 10:11 PM |
| 142 | Queer men also suffer from men’s issuesI'm gay and I've noticed this too. Gay people tend to skew left because the left expresses support for gay rights. But the left also expresses hostility towards men. So the answer for gay men who don't want to be politically homeless is clear: renounce the male part of your identity and center yourself around gayness instead. This is how you get gay/queer/trans men who hate men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/24 09:59 PM |
| 2 | Will it ever change?It's okay to feel discouraged. I should have stated that outright in my first message. I feel discouraged and hurt sometimes, too. There is a lot we can be discouraged about, but also lots to be hopeful for, and there are genuinely exciting things happening right now. Like GALDEF's lawsuits in the USA to protect boys from genital cutting. I think they're going to win, and even if nobody's paying attention now, they will be when they wake up realizing they cannot mutilate their sons anymore. And … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/12/24 07:35 PM |
| 6 | Will it ever change?That's brutal. I am sorry your own mother abused you like that. You didn't deserve that. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/12/24 04:49 PM |
| 6 | Will it ever change?It is changing right now. More attention and seriousness is being given to men's issues now than ever before. Granted, it's still not a lot. There's a long way to go yet. But we have this engine running, whereas twenty years ago we couldn't even get it to turn over. Feminism is over 170 years old in the US, and like all parts of our establishment, it's old, tired, and going down. Now is the best time ever for us to get even louder in our criticisms of feminism and hear it creak under the weight … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/12/24 04:45 PM |
| – | How can I learn to embrace my masculinity and act more confidently/natural in public?Confidence will come as you practice it. And yeah I get you, I always struggled to gain weight too. Work on the things you can change and accept what you cannot. Good luck my dude! | /r/MenSupportMen | 15/12/24 10:01 PM |
| 2 | How can I learn to embrace my masculinity and act more confidently/natural in public?No problem dude! I relate a lot to what you're going through. I've tried to edit the reply below to be as short as I can, but as I always say, this is not something that can be communicated in only a few lines of text. Why do you feel like being more manly would help people stop judging you? Depending on the culture around you, being more manly may bring more judgment, not less. If you're feeling insecure, you may not cure that just by becoming more masculine. Plenty of dudes are masculine as fu… | /r/MenSupportMen | 15/12/24 07:30 PM |
| 6 | Prolonged emotional abuse from wife, looking for advice.I am not Australian, but I do not have to be in order to tell you that you need to get out of this situation quickly and safely. Thoughts of ending your own life are an extremely serious sign that you need to get out of this situation. Please reach out to whatever emergency services are available to you if you feel like you're coming close to ending it all. If Australia is anything like the US, then the court system will almost always side with the woman. You cannot change that. If you have any … | /r/MenSupportMen | 15/12/24 04:26 PM |
| 3 | How can I learn to embrace my masculinity and act more confidently/natural in public?Fellow gay guy here in my mid-thirties. I went through this same thing and also have close male friends who experienced it, too. We've all overcome the problem. It's fully possible for you to become what and who you want to be. Any man can be more feminine or more masculine. It's fine to lean into either, so long as it's what you want. Some dudes get pushed into a box where they're told they have to "man up" and if they don't, they're not real men. Some dudes get pushed into a box told they have… | /r/MenSupportMen | 15/12/24 04:12 PM |
| 6 | What do you think are important safety tips for men when dating?Very well put. I want to underline what you said about respect. It's not about submission. Too often, men are accused of wanting dominance when what they want is to be valued. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/24 07:12 PM |
| 3 | How come every time it's a women's issues threads and you bring up the fact that it's an issue for everybody, you get spammed with hate? But when it's a men's issues thread they have no problem saying "Women face this too" and get hundreds of upvotes.You said, "The women who don't see men as humans, get to write the script for popular feminism. And it wasn't new. It was present in every 'wave', from Seneca Falls to Twitter." I am interested in learning more about misandry in the roots of feminism. Are there any books you can recommend on that topic that study misandry throughout the history of feminism? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/24 01:36 AM |
| 9 | Both Need To Be Each Other's AlliesI've been thinking about this for a bit now, and my answers are: 1) Women can help legitimize concern for the types of violence that men are most likely to be subjected to. Things like muggings and homicide are treated like "just one of those things" we see on the news and then promptly forget. If the majority of victims of those crimes were women, that would not be society's attitude. So I think that one thing women could do if they wanted to would be to encourage conversations about why men ma… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/12/24 09:06 PM |
| 5 | Both Need To Be Each Other's AlliesThis is an important point. The "THAT'S A LADY, BRO!!!" mentality needs to stop. If a woman attacks a man he has right to defend himself to whatever extent necessary to stop the attacker. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/12/24 08:33 PM |
| 17 | Both Need To Be Each Other's AlliesThat kind of shit frustrates me too. It hurts to be reminded how little care for our safety there is. I agree that there's nothing wrong with men looking out for women, and that the issue is that women are never told they need to also lookout for men. It's like it's our job to protect women and it's women's job to soak up an endless amount of attention and protection while fretting that there's still not enough being done. I was just replying to another thread where we were discussing how men ca… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/12/24 07:19 PM |
| 34 | What do you think are important safety tips for men when dating?Men don't see red flags until it's too late because we're not typically raised with the idea that we can be victims of anything. Men are labeled as suspects by default, so all of our conditioning is aimed at making sure that we don't become perpetrators. So if we really want to help men and boys be safe, it needs to start years before they begin dating. They need to know how to detect when they're being disrespected, abused, taken advantage of, devalued, etc, not just for dating but for all of l… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/12/24 07:12 PM |
| 6 | DID I JUST GET RED PILLED?I am sorry to interrupt here. I am a Marxist. I understand what you're saying about feminists using the same kind of "us versus them" model to describe patriarchy. I agree that patriarchy is a myth. Men do not dominate women the way rich dominate poor. Women actually have a lot of social power men do not. The "us versus them" model works a lot better when being applied to class than to sex. The divide between rich and poor is pretty self-evident. They use their wealth and influence to control Co… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/12/24 06:26 AM |
| 8 | DID I JUST GET RED PILLED?Ohh okay so you're just saying that feminism proposes a similar power dynamic where you've got an oppressor group and an oppressed group. I think people are thinking you meant to say that the idea that there is a power dynamic between the working class and capitalist class is a myth. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/12/24 12:36 AM |
| 8 | DID I JUST GET RED PILLED?I am wanting to understand what you're saying. You mean that the idea that workers vs capitalist dynamic isn't real? And that it causes resentment against men? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/12/24 12:18 AM |
| 16 | DID I JUST GET RED PILLED?I am afraid you're right. What can men even do about it? I do not like the idea that we have to sit and wait for women to rescue us. At the same time, if women aren't listening to men, we're wasting our breath talking to them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/12/24 12:05 AM |
| 7 | How open is this sub to working with feminists?I understand that the situation in America is very different from where you're at. I hope that things will improve in your country for everyone. I appreciate your sentiment of "gender roles for no one or everyone" in the sense that I agree that the only thing worse than injustice is unevenly applied injustice. You and some of the commenters below have made interesting points about gender differences that I think are worth discussing. Some differences between men and women are plainly obvious and… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/12/24 03:41 PM |
| 17 | How open is this sub to working with feminists?This is fucking spot on. I agree. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/12/24 05:39 AM |
| 42 | How open is this sub to working with feminists?I am happy to talk to anybody who is respectful. I do believe that men and women need to work together. I appreciate that you've come here for conversation rather than let that one guy you had a bad experience with define all male advocacy for you. To address your items: * I agree that society shouldn't force roles on people. I believe people should be allowed to adopt the roles they want, and that includes traditional roles. In America, I feel like women have been extremely liberated from their… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/12/24 05:37 AM |
| 3 | "Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses.I understand now, thank you for clarifying. I also don't want them to buy into anything harmful. They've been harmed enough. But to a lot of them, those of us on the left are who they think are harming them. And they're not wrong. Overall the left is obviously very hostile to men. So they must look at us like we're a bunch of self-hating men to be male leftists unless they realize we're challenging the misandry on the left because we believe that misandry is not an inherently leftist thing. It's… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/12/24 08:06 PM |
| 29 | "Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses.I am a leftist, but I do not consider the idea of young men going to the right troubling. I do not agree with a lot of what the right does or believes, but we shouldn't treat it like a spreading disease. The left is acting like there is zero legitimacy to being rightwing. The left doesn't own young men, or anyone else. The left needs to stop acting like people owe them allegiance. There are a lot of valid reasons young dudes are going right. The misandry on the left for starters. Telling young m… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/12/24 07:23 PM |
| 2 | No men were born to become bioweaponsWell I started my sentence with, "I believe," so I assumed that would indicate the speculative nature of my remarks. Your statement was quite definitive, though. You say bluntly men are not naturally made to protect, so I am curious why you drew that conclusion. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/12/24 05:44 PM |
| 13 | Weird double standard in society.Yes this double standard is very real and very obvious. While it's true that not all women want taller men, more than enough have insisted upon it for this to be widely noticed. And as you point out, it's not wrong to have preferences. The problem is, as always, the rules for how we're supposed to talk about each other are not evenly applied between the sexes. | /r/MenSupportMen | 08/12/24 05:06 PM |
| 0 | No men were born to become bioweaponsIt's true that social roles are subjective and vary across cultures. But how do you know which variances are aligned with nature and which are not? It's entirely possible for it to be true that men are wired to generally react or behave a specific way and that many cultures, especially as they've mechanized, are able to ignore basic human nature. (And that alienation from nature applies to all people, not just men.) But anyway, what I mean to say is that I do not believe humans would've survived… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/12/24 04:09 PM |
| 12 | Genuine dysphoria induced from misandry. (Hear me out.)As I am writing this I realize it is turning into an enormous post, but these issues are not ones that can be dealt with in just a few lines. I am sorry for the length of this post. I will try to make it worthwhile: Reading this is difficult because what's been done to you is an awful thing. Same thing happened to me. I grew up feeling ashamed of masculinity and feeling like it wasn't okay. I took it to such extremes that if I had been a young teenager in the 2010s there's no fucking way I would… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/24 10:11 PM |
| 3 | No men were born to become bioweaponsYeah agreed, and on top of all that, men are so heavily conditioned to not hit women that many will just tolerate physical abuse rather than try to defend themselves. People who believe "women cannot hurt men" are either lying or hopelessly lost. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/24 07:05 PM |
| 5 | No men were born to become bioweaponsThis is such an important point. The way societies handle perceived power dynamics is incredibly tricky, and it's become so mind bending with endless cultural fixation on "social justice." Everyone wants to defend the underdog but nobody can quite tell when defense of the underdog has become sufficient enough to render them no longer an underdog. As Slavoj Zizek says, "Proclaiming yourself powerless gives you immense power." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/24 06:46 PM |
| 7 | Just a reminder to those who haven't left. This site wants you to feel hated. They want men to be pushed into further radicalization. For the sake of your own mental well-being. Leave this website.In your view, what is their agenda here specifically? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/24 06:27 PM |
| 30 | Just a reminder to those who haven't left. This site wants you to feel hated. They want men to be pushed into further radicalization. For the sake of your own mental well-being. Leave this website.How far are these folks willing to allow hate groups to go? Could you organize a subreddit around glorification bordering on incitement of violence against men or white people? What moral ground would they have to oppose such a thing? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/24 06:04 PM |
| 6 | No men were born to become bioweaponsI am reading this with the assumption that what you mean is, "allowing governments and corporations to convince you that your manly duty is to fight and work for them is slavery." A lot of men derive a sense of meaning from providing for their families and protecting them. I believe that comes naturally to men and that the instinct has simply been hijacked and manipulated by the rich and powerful. In more natural social conditions where providing and protecting just means men go out and hunt or … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/24 03:35 PM |
| 1 | The Moral Failures of "Punching Up"I agree, but feminists routinely fall back on "comedy" to defend hate speech. I've seen the argument about the man versus bear thing flip flop between "it's just a joke" to "it's a meaningful expression of how dangerous men are to women" so many times it's dizzying. I am with you that people's DNA should be left out of the argument. Whatever "punching up" is, it should not be aimed at race, sex, etc. Picking on a billionaire is not the same thing as picking on somebody for their sex, as obviousl… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/24 02:59 PM |
| 11 | Curious newcomerI like your insights here. We see this "our turn" dynamic play out in numerous, isolated arenas in society. And as you point out, it's always celebrated as progress. It really doesn't matter how overtly prejudiced or even illegal it is, if a minority group is doing it, it's applauded. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/12/24 12:45 AM |
| 1 | Reflections as a Shy person - How rare compliments and attention get as I age...That is how I feel about it, too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/12/24 10:16 PM |
| 70 | National Review: The Democrats Have a Woman ProblemThe fact that something like The Guardian actually referred to Democrats doubling down on attacking patriarchy and "toxic masculinity" as a danger is a remarkable step forward. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/12/24 09:53 PM |
| 17 | Curious newcomerWelcome! Glad you're here. My impression of the community has been that there seem to be a lot of centrists here. I am fine with that, personally. I am also fine with rightwingers coming in to visit, as they sometimes do. To be honest, I sometimes forget that this is even intended to be a leftwing space. I don't know if that's because I am a lefty type and I am just in my own little bubble here, or if it's because this sub actually just does not really push a lot of leftwing talking points. What… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/12/24 07:11 PM |
| 6 | How do you guys tell people you're an MRA/male advocate?I think it's awesome you and your son have had the same realizations together. It's very unfortunate your family reacts that way. It's incredible to me how people will defend bigotry and hate even when they see it impacting the people closest to them. The situation with your friend is very concerning. If it's her community, your friend sort of has a responsibility to set a good example and call out that kind of speech out, yes? I'm gay, and this is the thing I've noticed about minority groups li… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/12/24 03:50 PM |
| 4 | Reflections as a Shy person - How rare compliments and attention get as I age...You didn't come across as self-pitying, don't worry. I understand what you're saying about milestones. I used to compare myself to others a lot. It is the fastest road to unhappiness I know of. The main question is if you like where you're at if you're not comparing yourself to others. Ideally you live the life you want rather than keeping up with the Joneses. Your desire to be independent is admirable. I respect that. But when it comes to emotional support, don't let a desire to not burden othe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/12/24 12:31 AM |
| 9 | How do you guys tell people you're an MRA/male advocate?I actually feel like misandry is one of the principal drivers of that awareness. Our society has become so hyper-aware of identity and sensitivity that the cold, demeaning way that men are treated is sticking out like a sore thumb. But it's not like any generation is a monolith. Millennials were divided on gay rights, but ultimately enough of them landed on one side of the issue to fundamentally change society. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/12/24 12:00 AM |
| 2 | The Moral Failures of "Punching Up"It's written that way specifically because it is an analysis of the values and arguments that others have established to even give us the concept of "punching up" in the first place. Of course my own values and conclusions are in there, but I try to avoid using "I" or "me" when I'm writing an essay meant to criticize someone else's ideas. It's all original content that I spent a couple days writing and editing. It sucks that these days nobody can tell what's original or AI-generated, but I've be… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/12/24 10:50 PM |
| 8 | How do you guys tell people you're an MRA/male advocate?Awareness only comes when we are willing to be honest and have difficult conversations. Sometimes that even means having arguments. My opinion is that staying cool and making good, logical sense will win. We live in an absolutely insane and crazy world, and if you are explaining the world in a way that makes sense, people will listen. One advantage we have is that, because men's issues are not frequently discussed, they are novel to a lot of people who've never thought about those issues before.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/12/24 10:36 PM |
| 9 | Reflections as a Shy person - How rare compliments and attention get as I age...First, welcome to LWMA. Glad you are here! Compliments and attention do tend to dry up as we get older. I cannot speak for women, but in my own observations, women tend to give each other compliments more frequently. It's not at all unusual for me to hear women telling each other how good their hair looks, how good their clothes look, etc. Men don't seem to compliment each other, but again in my observation, when it does happen, men take it very well. It just needs to be normalized among men, an… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/12/24 10:22 PM |
| 22 | How do you guys tell people you're an MRA/male advocate?I understand that you may feel nervous about it because being an advocate for men's rights is so often treated like a joke. Hell, some people may act like it's a red flag. But it's not a joke, and it's nothing to be ashamed of. No movement is taken seriously in the beginning. A movement picks up widespread support through the honesty and persistence of its members who refuse to be quiet just because their ideas are considered silly or controversial. I am very open about men's issues for that rea… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/12/24 09:58 PM |
| 2 | The Moral Failures of "Punching Up"I agree 100 percent. I was writing that to frame how the argument is presented so I could criticize the argument. I was not advocating that point of view. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/12/24 05:38 PM |
| 36 | What male-focused policies would you like to see the Dems include in the platform next election?* Body autonomy: If males don't even have very basic body autonomy, then it's difficult to imagine the government cares about any other male issues. Genital mutilation and the draft need to go. * Address the education gap: The system is outright failing boys. This requires us to recognize that there are fundamental differences between the needs of boys and girls, and boys are treated by school systems with neglect at best and hostility at worst. * Mental health: Recognize men's mental health cri… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/12/24 04:17 PM |
| 6 | What are proper counter arguments for arguments such as, "Misandry, anti men sentiments exist online." "Those are not directed towards you." "Online is toxic anyways, so don't take those anti man sentiments personally."At that time, did you feel like the love and protection you were receiving as a boy were sort of hollow? Like maybe it felt conditional because you knew it was only because you're a kid? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/12/24 05:26 PM |
| 7 | What are proper counter arguments for arguments such as, "Misandry, anti men sentiments exist online." "Those are not directed towards you." "Online is toxic anyways, so don't take those anti man sentiments personally."Here are my replies for those statements: "Misandry, anti men sentiments exist online." Misandry is hatred or bigotry against men. Misandry in feminist literature and popular culture predates the internet. To say it "exists only online" is to basically posit that there's no human being on Earth capable of holding cruel, bigoted, hateful ideas about men as group. None. Out of nearly ten billion. "Those are not directed towards you." So you're saying you either don't see me as a real man or you se… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/12/24 03:12 PM |
| 5 | What are proper counter arguments for arguments such as, "Misandry, anti men sentiments exist online." "Those are not directed towards you." "Online is toxic anyways, so don't take those anti man sentiments personally."This post and the list of harms you added was very interesting and insightful. Thank you for sharing. The fact that there are some trans men who were scared to make the transition for fear of how society treats men is very illuminating. I don't claim to know or understand anything about being trans, but that fear resonates with me. I remember dreading puberty as a boy because I knew turning into a man was going to make the hate I was experiencing worse. And it did. I wish there was more visibili… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/12/24 02:47 PM |
| 14 | I’m definitely late to the party but yeah, we’re on our ownI try to always engage with men who are seeking somebody to talk to. Check out r/mensupportmen | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/12/24 09:34 PM |
| 40 | I’m definitely late to the party but yeah, we’re on our ownWelcome! I am happy you found us. I think it's only hopeless if we are hoping a political party will fix what's wrong. Like Bernie Sanders always says, real change always starts at the bottom and works its way up. What I like to focus on is emotional support for other men and writing criticisms of feminism. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/12/24 09:08 PM |
| 6 | (TW) When I was 11, I starved myself because I wanted my penis to look longer...Thank you for sharing that story. You should not have been put through that. I am glad to hear that you're comfortable with your body now, but it sounds like you went through hell to get there. Yes, body-shaming can have a very severe impact on people, and the discussion about how it impacts men and boys is basically nonexistent. One way that can change is by us explaining how we've been impacted by it. And in a world that still loves to body-shame and humiliate males, especially our intimate pa… | /r/MenSupportMen | 01/12/24 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Language regarding men.Systemic racism is not an objective reality like mass or temperature. Real world data about racism or sexism is information gathered about how people are acting or talking, and people are inconsistent and irrational. There are few, hard conclusions that can be drawn from that kind of data, but yet, those who build their worldviews on that data will only accept a small number of interpretations of that data, and they'll never discard data that supports their worldview no matter how inaccurate or … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/11/24 09:28 PM |
| 2 | Language regarding men.Have you read the book? John McWhorter positively affirms black people are not "zombie orcs" incapable of nuance. That's his whole point. Black people are smarter and more mature than what Electism/CRT/wokeness sets them up to be. It is Electism that is inflexible and lacking nuance to a cartoonish degree. His point was not that black people are perpetual victims, or that they even think they are, but that this ideology typecasts them as such. Again I have to wonder if you've read the book you'r… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/11/24 07:01 PM |
| 3 | Language regarding men.One of the reasons John McWhorter wrote Woke Racism is because he sees wokeness (or, "Electism," as he prefers to call it) as being actively harmful to black people. In his view, it is "Electism" which dehumanizes and degrades black people. He criticizes it for infantilizing black people and distracting from real issues facing the black community by focusing instead of performativity, guilt, and outrage. At no point does he deny that racism still exists and that there aren't still institutional … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/11/24 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Language regarding men.Would you like to elaborate further? Have you read the book? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/11/24 04:51 PM |
| 1 | ThanksgivingOhh I see, yeah being caught in between like that can suck. I'm glad you've got it worked out now where you feel less pressured. I hope you will still find something fun to do for yourself on Thanksgiving! | /r/MenSupportMen | 28/11/24 05:58 AM |
| 1 | ThanksgivingThat does sound difficult. Doing things alone is tough. I'm there right now too. What's your family pressuring you about? Trying to get you to come to Thanksgiving or something else? | /r/MenSupportMen | 28/11/24 04:43 AM |
| 1 | ThanksgivingWhat are you trying to figure out? | /r/MenSupportMen | 28/11/24 03:23 AM |
| 6 | Language regarding men.Well specifically, the analogy here would be to someone like a BLM activist saying something offensive or bigoted about white people and then getting away with it because it's considered racist to call them out and hold them accountable. The same applies to women practicing misandry. They're allowed to get away with it. John McWhorter's point is that low expectation is racist in itself. It is to say that these minorities aren't smart enough or moral enough to know what they're doing is wrong. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/11/24 04:50 PM |
| 37 | Language regarding men.Society talks at men, not with men. We are treated like animals being observed. We are trained from an early age not to fight back against stereotypes and scapegoating. Trying to correct women who stereotype us is "mansplaining" or "manterrupting," and then here come the "male tears" jokes. Men who internalize this idea that they are problematic get rewarded with a certain level of acceptance and trust by women that is withheld from men who won't play along. The culture has a well-established tr… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/11/24 03:33 PM |
| 3 | Guys i seriously need some feedback because i feel i'm going crazy, thanks.I can feel your frustration. What jumps out at me is what you wrote here: "Deep down inside i do think her way of acting is crazy. Its bad. Its not ok. Its not nice. It feels even mean. Its unfair. Its nasty." The way they're treating you is hurting you. I know what it feels like to try to get people to understand that their behavior is hurtful. One thing that is difficult for men in this situation is that we often do not express emotions the way women do. We can be deeply hurt but also appear e… | /r/MenSupportMen | 25/11/24 03:54 AM |
| 2 | Guys i seriously need some feedback because i feel i'm going crazy, thanks.Everything you're saying is so familiar to me. I grew up in a very, very similar dynamic. I wish I had a real solution to your problem, but I don't. All I can say is don't let them gaslight you. Women tend to seek validation of their feelings whereas men tend to seek after objectivity in spite of their own feelings. Men are like, "that thing is broken, let's fix it," and will ignore the fact that the broken thing upsets them. Fix it, and you won't be upset anymore. Women are like, "that thing be… | /r/MenSupportMen | 24/11/24 11:56 PM |
| – | Weekly check-inThat's perfectly fine. Whenever you're ready. | /r/MenSupportMen | 24/11/24 11:37 PM |
| – | Weekly check-inHey dude, sorry nobody replied to your post. Please come share what you're struggling with if you need. | /r/MenSupportMen | 24/11/24 10:49 PM |
| 4 | Guys i seriously need some feedback because i feel i'm going crazy, thanks.She did not give you another word to replace "unhealthy" because she does not want to help you criticize her. And yes, notice how it's okay for them to criticize you, but you're not allowed to do it back. That means they think they're better than you. Either they have no faults, or you're simply not good enough to pick out their faults. "But how is someone going to do that if you can not point something out and be critical of something?" It's not likely they ever will. People who are immature ar… | /r/MenSupportMen | 24/11/24 10:44 PM |
| 6 | Guys i seriously need some feedback because i feel i'm going crazy, thanks.People who don't like to accept responsibility or take criticism will always turn it into an argument about something you did. If a mature person has a problem with the word "unhealthy" they can say so while also addressing the things you're trying to point out. Try asking them what word they prefer instead of "unhealthy," go ahead and use it, and they'll find another excuse to argue with you rather than address your points. There are people in my life who are exactly like this. Most of them are… | /r/MenSupportMen | 24/11/24 09:10 PM |
| 3 | I feel like I am a loser, this feeling is not going away! I am stuck in a very bad place.The fact that the expectation now is that working less than 60 hours per week is "not doing your best" is further proof of the system issues I mentioned earlier. | /r/MenSupportMen | 24/11/24 02:25 PM |
| 2 | I feel like I am a loser, this feeling is not going away! I am stuck in a very bad place.I second the advice you already received. Start doing pushups and challenge yourself to do more each day. It takes hardly any time to try and there's a very good chance you'll feel better about yourself if you're doing something that is challenging and makes you feel yourself getting stronger. Earning a living is brutal. The struggle you're experiencing is incredibly widespread. It's not just you. The problems are systemic, you are not a loser. If everyone around is that much more successful, th… | /r/MenSupportMen | 24/11/24 04:58 AM |
| 3 | I Hate The StigmaI am sorry that you witnessed that. Abuse is a tragic thing. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/11/24 07:26 PM |
| 17 | A new support group for menStand your ground. They'll try to intimidate you guys, cancel you guys, shame you guys. Ignore them and whatever names they call you. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/11/24 03:47 PM |
| 30 | Skeptics lost touch with reality, blames young men's views on "loss of privilege"I'd say if we need to rescue men from any political force, it would be the one that provides space for open hatred and violence against men. It's not conservatives and Republicans saying things like "kill all men," or "men are trash" or "I choose the bear." It's also not conservatives making memes out of poisoning husbands and boyfriends who do not vote as they're told to vote by their liberal female partners. The right will always get further saying men should be tougher than the left will get … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/11/24 03:36 PM |
| 27 | The pink taxThe fact they call it a "tax" is a bit of a mystery to me. The government did not impose a tax on pink shit in the store. I can only speak from my own experience, but when I'm in the store picking up shampoo or body wash for myself, I have to walk past an enormous array of cosmetic and hygiene products almost entirely aimed at women. The selection is overwhelming. All the products are emblazoned with words that have no meaning to me. When I reach the comparatively tiny selection of men's product… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/11/24 03:05 PM |
| 48 | How can we mitigate the current political divide between Young Men and Women; except not misandristic in content.I personally try to avoid their spaces because there is no point going into them. Your chances of being able to reason them out of their hate and lies are no better than your chances of reasoning a fundamentalist Christian out of believing in Satan or the garden of Eden. You're just going to get drenched in hate while you're there for no benefit to anyone except them getting to take their anger out on you. Even cast as the villains in their story, we will reach more people through reason than th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/11/24 04:09 AM |
| 9 | I Hate The StigmaYes, thank you for asking. The issues you describe at school are real, and something that it's important to look out for. The issues are persistent throughout all schooling. It won't just be at elementary. In fact, it can get worse as boys move into higher grades because they're getting bigger and their energy appears more threatening. Boys need physical rough and tumble play to burn that energy off and learn how to cooperate. Schools tend to either problematize boys or ignore them. The "throwin… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/11/24 04:00 AM |
| 6 | What is your response to "abuse towards women was normal back then"?This is a very useful collection of evidence. It deserves many more upvotes. I am going to bookmark your post for future reference. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/11/24 06:43 PM |
| 8 | I Hate The StigmaI agree. Society just kind of throws us to wolves as boys and we figure shit out on our own and survive. Politics did the same thing to us, and when they finally decide they need us, they're going to come back to find that we are not preconfigured and propagandized to blindly support their agenda. Democrats are figuring that out right now. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/11/24 06:30 PM |
| 4 | What is your response to "abuse towards women was normal back then"?Culture is not neatly divided by decade. It doesn't get swapped out and replaced with a new model every 10 years. The culture of the 80s spilled over into the 90s, and the 90s spilled into the 2000s, etc. Kids learn about their parents' culture through their parents, etc. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/11/24 05:27 PM |
| 26 | I Hate The StigmaMen are basically politically homeless. Neither side is going to advocate for us. For what it's worth, people were dismissing misandry and men's issues before the right started coopting masculinity for its own purposes. The reason men starting congregating on the right is because they weren't being actively chased away by the right, whereas the left had been overtly hostile toward men. I think men noticed the right before the right noticed men as a demographic. "Woke" is a messy term that has al… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/11/24 05:01 PM |
| 14 | What is your response to "abuse towards women was normal back then"?I grew up in the 1990s. I remember me and my friends scoffing at how we were told it was wrong for boys to hit girls but it was always fine (still is to a large extent) for girls to hit boys. Then you had shows on TV from different decades where you could kind of track the culture's attitude towards domestic violence. In the 50s and 60s you had shows like I Love Lucy and The Honeymooners where they joked about domestic violence a lot. Often, the jokes went both ways, with Ricky and Lucy both thr… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/11/24 10:56 PM |
| 23 | Damn... you guys are alright.Welcome, comrade! I will sit down and talk to anyone who is respectful and logical. It's easy to get along in this sub. I find that the basic premise is "imagine you basically agree with leftist politics, but also that you think that men are human beings" and it just sort of flows from there. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/11/24 02:19 AM |
| 3 | Men's Health Month : Hope & Will in the face of lossI think that's a key point. It's not necessarily about solving the problem, but just make them more bearable. Social circles are damned hard to build these days, though. If you haven't been to r/mensupportmen you may want to check it out. It's active enough most posts seem to get at least a couple replies. I do not believe social media is replacement for real social circles, but better than none. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/11/24 11:36 PM |
| 3 | Men's Health Month : Hope & Will in the face of lossSame. But don't give up. Ask for what you need. Edit: Actually, I have been thinking about this lately. I'm going to start a thread about what it is we actually need as men when we are depressed and need support. But when I think about what I need, I have no idea. What makes you feel better? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/11/24 10:40 PM |
| 26 | You're invited - opening of new Calgary men's shelter on IMD 2024This made my day a little brighter. A gigantic "thank you" to everyone who made this happen! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/11/24 10:34 PM |
| 8 | Debunking "feminists help men too" lieNo worries! Will you continue adding more items to this list over time? I'm going to bookmark it for future reference. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/11/24 06:58 PM |
| 2 | Professor leaves KU after ‘highly inappropriate’ remarks during lectureOh don't worry, that is completely normal. Women verbally abuse and debase men right to our faces all the time. No amount of emotional harm they can do to you is ever a step too far, because they're just "punching up." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/11/24 06:54 PM |
| 35 | Debunking "feminists help men too" lieThank you for taking time to compile this information. We should always evidence on-hand, but I know it can be very depressing compiling it. Just a heads up, the item that says "Feminist professor at Occidental College Lisa Wade rejects the notion of "toxic masculinity," saying it is time to recognize that "it is masculinity itself that has become the problem and argue that men must renounce their masculinity and denounce anyone who chooses to identify with it" does not seem to link to an actual… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/11/24 06:43 PM |
| 14 | Debunking "feminists help men too" lieI am always open to being persuaded if you want to elaborate. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/11/24 06:40 PM |
| 6 | Professor leaves KU after ‘highly inappropriate’ remarks during lectureIf this is what professors in red states are saying about men, imagine what they're saying in blue states. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/11/24 05:47 PM |
| 10 | The Working Class ConversationHey, welcome! Thanks for sharing your experiences and thoughts. I feel your frustration. The amount of hypocrisy, ego, and self-importance we see within the left is very difficult to break through. It's trickling down from top to bottom within the left. They're obsessed with identity and virtues. Those things have been baked into the fabric of the left as a lightning rod to channel the angry energy of workers safely away from capitalism and redirect it towards opposing identities whom we're told… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/11/24 03:29 PM |
| 2 | What does being "left wing" mean to you in regards to male issues and advocacy?Yep. Modern society alienates us all from our instincts in many different ways. The contradictions aren't sustainable. We need men and women to like and trust each other. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/11/24 01:44 AM |
| 11 | The Phenomenon of “Female Chauvinism”I do consider it gynocentrism, or female chauvinism if you prefer. I was just sort of restating what you already said about how in our society a man who is strong and assertive will be looked upon as a "broken woman." The bit about masculine traits being considered good only in women was just to say that women are still free to embrace those traits due to feminism. But of course women in a gynocentric society are also free to behave in a more traditionally feminine way so long as it is not in se… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/11/24 07:16 PM |
| 19 | The Phenomenon of “Female Chauvinism”I think you've made some good points here. Another word to describe this phenomenon might be "gynocentrism." That is, centering the viewpoints, needs, or values of women over those of men. You may run into some resistance with these ideas depending on who you're talking to. Some people may entirely reject the idea that men and women have attributes that vary due to sex. That is, they might say if men are more stoic it's because they're taught to be, and if women are more sensitive, it's because … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/11/24 05:59 PM |
| 23 | Democrats Called Young Men ‘SEXIST, RACIST’ And Are SURPRISED They LOST Their VOTES?! Lee FangNot even a minute and a half into the video before "but what about women?" comes up. Still, I appreciate that this is one of the few roundtables I've seen on any news platform about men's issues that involves more than one man. Usually they either have an all-female panel or only one man present. The guest does an okay job presenting his arguments, but I'm definitely ready to start seeing more assertive men in these discussions. I feel like where we're at now is men in these segments offering on… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/11/24 03:33 PM |
| 48 | Men's issues in society being self-inflictedOne advantage the right has is their ability to rightly point out that misandry is real and being stoked by feminism. That is a truth that most men know, even if they won't openly say it. We can't openly say it because we know the bullying, stigmatization, and rejection that follows. But even if the right's proposed solutions aren't really what men need, they're still going to get farther being able to speak one truth than the left will ever get by actively harming men and then saying it was men… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/11/24 05:32 PM |
| 7 | What does being "left wing" mean to you in regards to male issues and advocacy?Some examples might be problematizing or shunning men's desires to do traditional male things like be a provider or protector. Masculinity as a form of strength, assertiveness, protectiveness, etc, is cast as antiquated, silly, and dangerous. Strong masculinity is something men need to let go of if they want to fit in with the modern world. The exception is when the left needs us to vote for them. Once it's election season, suddenly we men have a duty to protect women with our vote. After the el… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/11/24 01:16 AM |
| 7 | What does being "left wing" mean to you in regards to male issues and advocacy?I am sorry that you had to go through this. You describe a very familiar form of emasculation that so many men go through. The saddest thing is that I think the majority of men just accept this as the way society is and they adapt to it and keep their heads down as best they can rather than resist or push back. I am glad you that got out of that dungeon. Big respect for you, man. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/11/24 12:50 AM |
| 18 | What does being "left wing" mean to you in regards to male issues and advocacy?Yes, this needs to be pointed out more. The left has just as many rules for men as the right, it's just the right encourages more traditionally masculine things while the left discourages them. The right wants stronger men (with less room for expression and variance) and the left wants weaker men (with room for all kind of variance so long as men remain controllable and quiet.) | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/24 11:03 PM |
| – | Weekly check-inTake one day at a time. Be kind to yourself. Breathe deep. Accept your feelings and let them be what they are. Think of something wholesome and good, and do it for yourself. | /r/MenSupportMen | 13/11/24 02:17 AM |
| 2 | I'm lost...You won't feel like this the rest of your life. Good things will happen, bad things will happen. Best of all, you can make choices every day to cultivate more of the good and cull the bad. You have value. That is why people occupy this sub, because all the dudes out there have value and need to be reminded of it sometimes when life gets shitty. Be proud of the good things you do for yourself and others. Be proud of your talents, use them. What interests you? What excites you? If you could do any… | /r/MenSupportMen | 13/11/24 02:10 AM |
| 21 | Great e-mail from our ‘archfather’That was an excellent article. It's heartbreaking to hear that young man's words, "I wish I hadn't been born male." This culture of hate and demonization has to end. If women feel a need to advocate for their own interests and safety, by all means do so, but obliterating the identity and franchise of men is not an acceptable way to do that. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/11/24 06:28 PM |
| 52 | Is "Women And Children" Misandrist?Yes, it absolutely is misandry. Prioritizing the value of human life by sex is about as disgusting as you can get. It means boys literally depreciate in value over time like a car, and don't think the boys haven't noticed. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/11/24 02:15 PM |
| 5 | As LWMA, what do you think is the best way to teach kids about consent, boundaries, and sex and what not to teach them?The best way to teach kids about boundaries is to let them have some boundaries, as you point out. From my own experience, the total lack of boundaries I was raised with (being circumcised as an infant, being subjected to "sack tapping" games, being sexually assaulted while nobody gave a shit) made it extremely difficult to realize my own autonomy. Consent was only a fuzzy concept of something that was strictly reserved for females, rarely for males. With that being the case, I do believe it is … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/11/24 03:47 PM |
| 4 | Gen Z guy here. Why are we the scapegoats again?I think there's something to this. The attitude is becoming, "if democracy means THOSE people have a chance at winning, I'd rather not have democracy at all." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/11/24 03:00 PM |
| 10 | Experience during youth as a left wingI grew up in a very conservative state in a fundamentalist Christian environment. Leftism and Democrats were considered a form of lunacy. During high school, 9/11, the subsequent wars, the Patriot Act all got me interested in politics and I was drawn to the left. I attended an antiwar protest as a teenager and registered as a Democrat the day I turned 18, thinking they were the antidote to the problems I was seeing in the world. Misandry was a constant in my world, despite the fact I grew up in … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/11/24 02:56 PM |
| 9 | Gen Z guy here. Why are we the scapegoats again?Yes that is true. I do not mean to imply there aren't scores of women of all ages who see the misandry and disapprove. We need them as allies for sure. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/11/24 02:59 AM |
| 2 | Criticizing the idea that patriarchy hurts men tooThank you for taking time to expand on the subject. I am afraid I still don't agree regarding heteronormativity hurting heterosexuals. I personally do not see a lot of viability in that argument. But maybe I still do not understand what you're trying to convey there. Back to patriarchy, I understand much clearer now what you're saying. I do not contest at all that there are burdens and expectations placed upon men. As you correctly point out, male homosexuality is demonized while female homosexu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/11/24 05:32 PM |
| 7 | Criticizing the idea that patriarchy hurts men tooI am not sure I am following your reasoning on the heteronormativity argument. If heteronormativity refers to a culture of privilege for heterosexuals, then how does that also harm heterosexuals? Heteronormativity (and subsequent homophobia) would drive more gay men into the closet where they'd marry women they weren't even attracted to in order to fit in with their heteronormative society. So that actually increases competition for women because all the gay men who would've gone off to marry ot… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/11/24 04:17 PM |
| 73 | Gen Z guy here. Why are we the scapegoats again?There is no simple, direct answer. But an important factor may be that Gen Z appears more openly male-positive than any living generation. The amount of consciousness toward men's issues that is springing up online is unlike anything I've seen in my lifetime, and it's obvious that it resonates with Gen Z men. I would have given anything to have a community like this when I was a teenager in the early 2000s. Back then I would try to voice my concerns, but was told that "the boy crisis" whose frui… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/11/24 03:52 PM |
| 3 | Sign the petition to ban the infant circumcision fetish subreddit, CircMoms2A petition is a petition. If you want to take more direct action, please consider supporting GALDEF and sharing it with your friends. They are a group of lawyers working to change state level bans on female genital mutilation to protect males, too. https://www.galdef.org/ This is actually a promising chance to get infant circumcision banned in the US. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/11/24 02:18 PM |
| 12 | Wellness check: how're you coping with the fallout?A person's hope for the future can rise and fall by things other than Donald Trump. Maybe this person has faith the American people will unify some day? Maybe they have hope that class consciousness is waking up in our country? Maybe the context of their post was "I am hopeful despite Trump's victory because I believe in other things." I dunno, maybe I am wrong. But I feel like you are making a lot of assumptions based on just three sentences. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/11/24 02:36 AM |
| 19 | Wellness check: how're you coping with the fallout?I did not see where they said they believe things will get better because Trump won. A person can be optimistic about the future without it needing even be for political reasons. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/11/24 02:21 AM |
| 3 | Sign the petition to ban the infant circumcision fetish subreddit, CircMoms2They do more than doing nothing. It only takes a few seconds to sign. Few other collective gestures can accomplish anything for so little investment. I personally would love to see a men's march where we advocate for our issues like other groups do. Go march, wave signs, make speeches. For now, we have this sub and the occasional petition. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/11/24 02:19 AM |
| 5 | Sign the petition to ban the infant circumcision fetish subreddit, CircMoms2Trump is in favor of the practice, I think. He likely won't be who gets the practice gets banned. Instead, organizations like GALDEF (https://www.galdef.org/) are suing states that have laws banning female genital mutilation, saying those laws are unconstitutional because they do not protect boys, too. The goal is to have those laws expanded to protect both boys and girls. The equal protection line of reasoning is legally sound and is what helped strike down gay marriage bans across the nation i… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/24 09:20 PM |
| 2 | Sign the petition to ban the infant circumcision fetish subreddit, CircMoms2Ohh, well maybe we actually made a difference! I'm going to continue watching this unfold until we know for certain. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/24 07:38 PM |
| 4 | Sign the petition to ban the infant circumcision fetish subreddit, CircMoms2I checked and it is still open for me. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/24 07:27 PM |
| 5 | We don't talk enough about the radicalization of young womenI support this idea wholeheartedly. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/24 06:26 PM |
| 32 | Sign the petition to ban the infant circumcision fetish subreddit, CircMoms2It looks like we can report subreddits using this form: https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360001103212 I am selecting "I want to report a subreddit for content policy violation" as my concern. And I am using "Sexual/Suggestive Content of Minors" as my primary reason, but you can also select things like "violent content" or "hate." You can also attach screenshots of the sub or posts at the bottom of the form. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/24 05:07 PM |
| 23 | Sign the petition to ban the infant circumcision fetish subreddit, CircMoms2Thank you for sharing this. Please, everybody sign this petition. This is beyond horrific. Men need to stand up to protect themselves and to protect boys. The culture isn't going to change for us, we have to make that change. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/24 04:09 PM |
| 2 | The Double StandardExcellent analysis! I actually was wanting to post something like this but hadn't come up with the words yet. The dichotomy of "punching up" and "punching down" is an interesting keyhole that allows us to glimpse an ugly truth about the morality of "progressives:" Respect and dignity are not something you deserve for being a human, they're something you're awarded for belonging to a marginalized group. Hate speech, bullying, jokes about women are so much worse than the same things directed at me… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/24 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Let's say you are put in charge of writing the Democrats' agenda for winning the male voteYou're probably right. One thing all us men should be doing right now is building emotional support networks to weather whatever horrific shit is coming next. I hope you start feeling better soon. You aren't totally alone. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/24 03:39 PM |
| 4 | Trump won the 2024 election. Your thoughts?Democrats lost in 2016 partly because they were unable to admit capitalism sucks for workers. Democrats lost in 2024 partly because they were unable to admit misandry sucks for men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/24 03:37 PM |
| 1 | How did you realize you don't live in a real patriarchy?I understand your frustration. I feel it too. But we're stereotyped already as violent, we should try to avoid violent rhetoric when discussing these issues, as that just gives the feminists more justification to censor us. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/24 04:34 AM |
| – | Deadbeat father died. I know nothing.Judging yourself by comparing your material possessions with others is a really good way to make yourself miserable. A lot of people who have wealth don't deserve it. A lot of people who don't have it deserve it much more. A person who would look at you as less than them because you aren't as rich is not a person worth impressing. I'd urge you to get away from folks like that. Are you mature? Are you good to people? Are you honest? For me, those are the kind of factors that go into determining w… | /r/MenSupportMen | 06/11/24 10:17 PM |
| – | Deadbeat father died. I know nothing.Your feelings are valid. That's a very difficult situation to be in. Do you feel like your mom saying, "I can't teach you how to be a man" set you up to feel like you could fall short of being a "real man" without the proper directions? You aren't defined by your failures. Everybody fails. I've fucked up all kinds of shit in life. You're still a man regardless of whether you generally succeed or fail, whether you can throw a football or not. You do not have to earn that title. It's your birthrig… | /r/MenSupportMen | 06/11/24 09:53 PM |
| 2 | Let's say you are put in charge of writing the Democrats' agenda for winning the male voteThat is great to hear, very glad for you! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/24 08:32 PM |
| 3 | Let's say you are put in charge of writing the Democrats' agenda for winning the male voteThis is a very good post. Male role models matter so much. I am in my mid 30s and only now realizing how severe the impact has been on me growing up rarely seeing positive male role models. I'm sorry to hear about the difficulties you've been through man. I hope you're doing well. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/24 07:36 PM |
| 10 | Let's say you are put in charge of writing the Democrats' agenda for winning the male voteWhat is your position on abortion? What would you say to a man who is about to become a father when he doesn't want to? What's the solution to his problem? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/24 06:00 PM |
| 4 | Let's say you are put in charge of writing the Democrats' agenda for winning the male voteI think it's perfectly fair to place expectations on Republicans, too. But this is a left-wing sub so I figured a conversation about Democrats would be more relevant. Plus, the right already has its way of appealing to men, whereas the left has no way of appealing to men. So I'm interested in conversations about what it would look like the Democrats recognized men as a demographic worth taking seriously and communicating with. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/24 05:38 PM |
| 12 | Let's say you are put in charge of writing the Democrats' agenda for winning the male voteI think this is oversimplifying the situation. This take is part of why the Democrats lost. By saying, "well the other side is just evil/stupid" it absolves Democrats of having to do any analysis of their own strategy and tactics, and is consequently why they will not have the important moment of clarity where they say, "Maybe it was a bad idea to treat men like they owe it to women to vote for us without even acknowledging they may have issues of their own that we need to appeal to." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/24 04:39 PM |
| 6 | push mens issues into the dem partyI was confused, because opposition to abortion is often rooted in religion so I wasn't sure what you were referring to. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/24 06:57 AM |
| 9 | push mens issues into the dem partyWhich of those things is religious lunacy and refusal to listen to science? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/24 06:50 AM |
| 41 | push mens issues into the dem partyWell, Roe v Wade was decided in 1973, we've had like a decade of MeToo, and it's still legal to mutilate our sons, so it does not appear women's body autonomy is helping us. Men need to organize and show that they are a real demographic who will no longer be treated like their only value is to provide more votes exclusively for women's issues. Women are not going to ride to our rescue. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/24 06:44 AM |
| 1 | Happy to be hereI'm glad you are here! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/11/24 06:57 PM |
| 1 | How did you realize you don't live in a real patriarchy?What conservative talking points? I for one want a law barring any modification of a child's body, regardless of sex. Telling parents they can no longer circumcise their children is the fastest way to enrage a conservative parent. It tends to be the case conservatives want an extreme level of control over their kids, and they also strongly favor circumcision. In my view, leftists are more likely to oppose circumcision, but that's just my own experience. Did I advocate for Trump by pointing out w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/11/24 05:16 PM |
| 6 | How did you realize you don't live in a real patriarchy?Perfectly stated. You captured the pain and frustration a lot of us feel and put it into words. I don't think you should sell yourself short though. The work you put into yourself and into the society around you isn't wasted if women do not notice you or value you. Men around you notice and admire it, even if they aren't saying it. Working out makes you physically strong and hopefully makes you feel better physically and emotionally. You should do that just because it's good for you and you want… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/11/24 05:00 PM |
| 1 | How did you realize you don't live in a real patriarchy?I do not believe the United States answers to any of your descriptions of patriarchy. Electing a woman into power is not considered controversial. CBS did a very recent round of polls that included questions on topics such as these. (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-harris-poll-gender-gap/) Here are some of the relevant findings of their polls: * 74 percent of respondents say America is ready for a woman of color to be president. * 80+ percent of both men and women said they believe Donald Tru… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/11/24 04:31 PM |
| 4 | Democrats are repeating the mistake of 2016Well said. I am going to use that from now on. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/11/24 02:06 PM |
| 22 | Advocate for men's rights by citing sexist quotes as evidenceIn the 2020 Democratic primaries, the candidates were asked in a debate why they believed it was important to get more women into positions of power. Andrew Yang, an entrepreneur who would sometimes present himself as somebody concerned with men's issues, was running for the nomination that year. When it came his turn to answer the question, he said we need more women in power because men, left to their own devices, will become "morons." He literally said on live TV in a political debate that me… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/11/24 03:03 PM |
| 82 | Question for intactivists about FGM to MGM comparisonMy response to this is always the same: The goal is not to see who suffers more when you stick a knife into their genitals. The goal is to stop sticking knives into kids' genitals. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/11/24 08:00 PM |
| 34 | Feminist answers to male suicide and other issues.I think you're drawing a valid comparison. Disconnecting from the "other" group emotionally is how you open the door to marginalizing them in ways that become progressively more severe, all the way up to genocide. You cannot go from "This group simply has a bit too much privilege" to "this group belongs in a prison camp" without a few steps in between. I don't mean that genocide is where we are headed, but simply that conceiving as the "other" group as a little bit less than human (they don't ha… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/10/24 11:39 PM |
| 34 | Feminist answers to male suicide and other issues.This is extremely well put. So much of feminism is drenched in this really cold, brutal contempt for men that even something as tragic as suicide just sort of bounces off them like it's just a boring data point in a spreadsheet rather than a loss of human life just because the people taking their own lives have a Y chromosome. What a profoundly inhumane ideology that causes somebody to think, "But what about me?" when they see somebody else take their own life. They're so self-interested they ca… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/10/24 08:54 PM |
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