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I've been in the game for 10 years and OP is right about everything he's saying here. The only reason it doesnt resonate is because the people lurking this sub, and other subs like it, are typically of low self esteem and have had negative experiences with other people, which has created a low level perception of relationships and what it takes to achieve their dating goals. I know this because if I had heard this advice back when I first started learning, I would think it was a bunch of BS too.…
/r/seduction19/07/25 07:39 AM
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Any scene containing Uncle Wayne in Ghosts of Girlfriends Past.
/r/seduction15/07/25 01:53 PM
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Speak for yourself. I'm killing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 01:28 PM
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I LOVE cases like these, because it highlights the fact that if you don't have the right mindset, attitude and Game then you can be a 10/10 on paper, but you still won't get no play.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 09:27 PM
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Would you feel that way if an attractive woman came up to you and wanted to engage you in conversation and even possibly flirt with you? I doubt it. A lot of your arguments are coming from the mindset that you're some kind of peasant disturbing the beautiful women. No. I'm an attractive man and I'm presenting myself to women I find attractive and if we have chemistry then I invite them out on a date. That's a win-win for both the woman and myself. Most of the women I've dated in my life, I've me…
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:09 PM
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Its not needy but rather confident. It's only needy if you're trying to sleep with every girl that you approach. Every guy has had the experience of walking down the street and BOOM your head instinctively turns to look at a beautiful woman walking past you. You're not busy currently, you're on your day off and were simply on your way to the grocery store. Deep down you'd love the opportunity to have a interaction with that woman and if the vibe is positive, then get her number and take her out …
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:44 PM
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Working on my physical appearance through the gym, eating habits, grooming and fashion. Working on my mind by reading books, meditating, journaling, cold showers, eliminating insecurities and developing discipline. Working on my lifestyle such as making better friends, pursuing my goals vigorously, adopting new hobbies and building my social media. Last but most importantly, working on my cold approach skills. 90% of the women that I've ever slept with, I've met by approaching the during the day…
/r/seduction09/09/22 06:50 PM
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I (24m) have had the exact same experience! I found out about game when I was around 16 or 17, started going out religiously and now I'm in utter abundance when it comes to dating which is far from who I was before game. I used to be meek and cringy. The guy that people would hang out with just to make fun of. Now, years later, I have stronger boundaries, Im fitter, a more active lifestyle, a leader within my social circle and, obviously, much better game. And I noticed how quick everyone tune c…
/r/seduction09/09/22 10:55 AM
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Treat it as a shit test. In other words, ignore it. If it was a legitimate issue, she wouldn't be dating you. Never change yourself to appease someone else, unless who you are is preventing you from reaching your goals. So, if every woman you dated broke up with you because you were too serious then yeah, that's something you need to address. But if you're getting the women that you want and you're able to keep them despite being serious then just ignore it. Its just girls being their mind fucki…
/r/seduction09/09/22 10:18 AM
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Treat it as a shit test. In other words, ignore it. If it was a legitimate issue, she wouldn't be dating you. Never change yourself to appease a someone else, unless who you are is preventing you from reaching your goals. So, if every woman you dated broke up with you because you were too serious then yeah, that's something you need to address. But if you're getting the women that you want and you're able to keep them despite being serious then just ignore it. Just girls being their mind fucking…
/r/seduction09/09/22 10:16 AM
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Then maybe... I don't know... start being more outgoing and find some good prospects? maybe? Just a suggestion Oh, you don't want to change? Oh, you'd rather whine about dating online rather than empower and make yourself uncomfortable in the pursuit of improvement? Oh, sorry my bad. You do you, homie
/r/seduction09/09/22 10:00 AM
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Look, I respect your opinion on the matter, but this has nothing to do with self-respect. You expect everyone to act and behave like you and wrap it up in a package of self-respect. "Well, we went on 2-3 dates, which is the only dates that I've been on in the last year so she should also be in the same scarce position as me." Going on a few dates with someone doesn't mean exclusivity and anyone that has options agrees with me. Just because I went to a couple job interviews, doesn't mean that I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:08 PM
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No worries. With that kind of needy and insecure mindset, I wouldn't even go on a single date with you in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:43 PM
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The answer is in the word "Exclusive." Until you have a conversation about the nature of your relationship, no one owes you anything. If you haven't discussed being exclusive then you're not and either of you can do whatever you want while getting to know each other. That's like expecting the benefits of a business agreement without signing the contract. That's not how it works. If one party is fulfilled just getting to know the other and doesn't need any sexual gratification on the side, then g…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:23 PM
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Ah, perhaps I am
/r/seduction04/09/22 10:06 PM
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I've been doing day game for a little over 5years now. At this point in my journey, if I go out three days in a row and approach around 3 women each day, I am very very veeery confident that I'll have at least one date with a really beautiful woman that week. I say date, not lay, because not every woman will sleep with you on the first date, although when that happens it's a nice bonus. Also, it really varies. I have times when I go out for a whole week with no success at all, then the following…
/r/seduction04/09/22 10:05 PM
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Good encouraging comment, but I'm pretty sure Paul Janka said his success rate is closer to 10% rather than 2.2%
/r/seduction04/09/22 09:57 PM
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What I personally do is tell the girl to text me when she gets back home safe. Then wait a few days and I initiate contact to set up a 2nd date. So technically the girl texted me first after the date and then I re-initiated with her a few days later. Other than that, I'd say that the man is expected to and should pursue.
/r/seduction03/09/22 02:28 PM
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"That can be arranged" and leave it at that. NEVER thirst over a girl's sexual innuendos, especially when you haven't had sex with her yet. Some women use sexuality as a trap to see if you're gonna get reactive. Speaking from years of experience brother.
/r/seduction20/06/22 09:50 AM
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Brother, ignore the ignorant comments from people who probably don't even approach women enough to recognize patterns in behaviour. Everything you expressed here makes perfect sense to me. Keep killing it!
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:05 PM
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speak for yourself
/r/seduction02/05/22 05:47 PM
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Spoken like a guy who sucks at cold approach. I've been in the game for over 5 years and I can tell you from pure experience that the types of women that you can pull from daygame are light years beyond girls that you can meet in your day to day life. Dont get me wrong, relying on your social circle (work, school, hobbies) to meet women is a viable strategy to meet beautiful women, but it's also very limited. Not only are you confined to the girls that are in your immediate social sphere, but yo…
/r/seduction02/05/22 01:54 PM
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Bro, it's PRECISELY because you spend a lot of money and care about being cheap that women don't get that primal attraction for you. Women date men who they perceive as a challenge. That means they want a guy who doesn't put them on a pedestal, because guys who get laid a lot and are pre selected by women aren't easily impressed. The mere fact that you invest so much into dating is a clear indication to a woman that you're not used to dating women of her calibre and you're trying to gain points …
/r/seduction29/04/22 01:06 PM
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Brother, if that's your truthful experience then who am I to refute it. All I know, from my experience, is that a lot of men think that they're good with women because they know how to make a girl laugh or get her chasing their validation a little bit. However, that is not what makes good game. I'd ask you to really pull back to an objective view and evaluate all of those interactions where you were "arrogant" and "women secretly loved it" and ask yourself: How many of those women have I slept w…
/r/seduction13/04/22 11:46 AM
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I think the word you're looking for is Indifference, not arrogance. Arrogance is when someone is overly feeling themselves and see others as beneath them. It's a very unattractive trait because the fact that someone puts so much effort into presenting themselves as better than others, is actually a sign of a deep rooted insecurity. Indifference, on the other hand, is when someone isn't phased by the outside world or the people they encounter. They seem unbothered by things and not that impressed…
/r/seduction12/04/22 12:14 PM
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Then your approach/personality/game is the problem. Share more about your experiences.
/r/seduction11/04/22 09:12 AM
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it's hard to say without having visual reference of you. However it could very well be that you have the wrong vibe. Keep in mind, the vast majority of men out there do not do cold approaches. Most people at parties and bars prefer meeting people in a safe and natural way because they don't want to risk getting rejected in front of a crowd. It's a small minority of men who approach and an even smaller percentage of those men would approach any girl they find attractive regardless of the vibe. Mo…
/r/seduction23/03/22 09:28 AM
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Bro, you're taking this the complete wrong way, which is why you're getting rejected. When women call you a player, fuckboy or anything along those lines, what they're inherently saying is that they find you attractive and that you look like the type of guy that other women must like. It's essentially a confidence test (shit-test). How you respond to it is going to determine if the interaction with that woman will move forward or not. Here's the thing... you're not the only one dealing with this…
/r/seduction09/03/22 10:11 AM
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Bro, this one is hard to answer and you'll get a lot of diverse responses, as you must have already realized. The reason being that it really depends on your personality type and your chemistry with any given girl. I personally do hold hands with girls on the first date if the vibe allows for it. But I do it in a very natural way. Like, if we're going to cross the street I'll extend my arm to the girl and say "Hand." very authoritatively. They usually comply and we cross the street while holding…
/r/seduction06/02/22 11:10 PM
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-Text 1: [something relevant to the interaction] Example would be "hope you weren't too hungover at work " if she told you that she had work tomorrow, or "hope your friends don't hate you" if she ditched them to hang out with you etc. -Text 2: [Go for the date idea] Example, if she replies that she wasn't hungover at work, text "Nice, let's celebrate over a glass of wine" -Text 3: [Arrange logistics] So she responds positively to the date idea, so then go for specifics: when and where. Keep it s…
/r/seduction06/02/22 11:03 PM
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Been there bro. Bro, what I would do is go on one last date with her. When you go on that date though, you have to make a commitment to yourself to make a bold move. A kiss, at least, or sex, at most. If you get rejected then play it cool and try again a little later. Dont be pushy but be persistent. If she keeps rejecting your advances then I would reject her to her face. You should say something like this: "Hey, look, I gotta be honest with you. I like you for x,y and z reasons but I'm a very …
/r/seduction18/12/21 12:36 PM
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I understand where your feedback is coming from, but please keep in mind that when I'm in conversation I'm not asking these questions like that. It's a lot more subtle and I'm indirectly leading the girl into saying what I want her to say. It's only typed this way here to make the point clear. As for the Nice Guy Beta male comments, I completely disagree bro. There's nothing wrong with showing empathy and being a nice guy as long as you're doing it from a place of strength. I used to think that …
/r/seduction26/09/21 03:52 PM
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How is this dishonest?
/r/seduction26/09/21 12:38 PM
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The following advice I'm about to give you is all you need in your situation. Never expect a woman to approach you. It's not happening. You say that women in your country are conservative so if you feel nervous to approach then she sure as hell feels 10x worse. Approach her casually. In a situation like yours, you don't have to state your interest directly. She obviously likes you already, so all you have to do is just start a conversation and move things forward slowly. You can approach her wit…
/r/seduction20/07/21 03:45 PM
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It IS a number's game. A number's game you can optimise. Let me ask you this: Which opener do you think would work best on average? "Hey, I saw you from over there and I wanted to fuck you so I came over. What's your name?" "Hey, I think you're adorable. I can't talk for too long but what's your name?" The answer is obvious here as the examples are greatly exaggerated. However, this is the reality of the game in very subtle levels as well. There are no obsolete ways to approach that guarantee 10…
/r/seduction06/06/21 08:51 AM
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Dude, this is the most butthurt post I've seen.
/r/seduction08/02/21 12:06 PM
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That's an aspect of it. You still need to be a cool alpha guy when they meet you
/r/seduction02/02/21 07:28 AM
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Dude, let me put it this way then. Don't. Be. A. Bitch. Stop this victim mindset shit and be a man. You're not some special snowflake who is the exception to the laws of seduction. If it didn't pan out is because you didn't do it right or you pussied out. This shit takes a lot of time and a lot of pain. It takes years of rejection and alienation. Sleepless nights and frustration. Only the strong will make it. So you're either going to step up and start carrying yourself as a man who puts his int…
/r/seduction01/02/21 06:52 PM
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That's good. If you want to step outside the friendzone and portray yourself as a sexual option then you must start being a lot more polarising in your interactions with women. Risk being offensive by making risky dark jokes, say things like "fuck you" in a playful manner if they say something you disapprove of, push them away from time to time, be more cocky and arrogant, express your sexuality and show them that you're unapologetic for your desires as a man. Hope this provides a good enough ma…
/r/seduction01/02/21 06:34 PM
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Beautiful comment man. It sounds like you're also experiencing what I've written about here. Having a social circle that you lead will also help build those inner values that people find attractive such as integrity, honesty and trust. Plus, it ups your standards for the kind of women you want around me because you're in genuine social abundance. Keep killing it man!
/r/seduction01/02/21 01:47 PM
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Nice brother. Trust me that it's very much worth it because you also get the inside scoop on how girls think. I've learned so much about the typical girl's life that you can't learn by just gaming a bunch of girls. Plus you feel like you have a more well-rounded and balanced lifestyle. A life that you can bring girls that you're dating into. It takes some time to build it up to a point where it sustains itself with little to no effort from you, so start as soon as you can. Oh and try not to fuck…
/r/seduction01/02/21 01:22 PM
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Excellent questions and I understand your perspective here. It is indeed an egg-chicken problem, because if you don't have the social proof then it makes it harder to bring people into your life, but to bring people into your life you need the social proof. But honestly, you'd be surprised how easy it is to break out of this cycle. People are very open to meeting new friends, than meeting new dating partners. So, yeah, you can definitely go the cold approach route, but I wouldn't make that your …
/r/seduction01/02/21 01:16 PM
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I can't help you. Good luck.
/r/seduction01/02/21 11:55 AM
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I have a foot fetish too man and I get enjoy my girls' feet all I want without ever explicitly telling her. Many times, I dated girls in the past that would voluntarily give me a footjob without me even asking. The secret is that you have to show your appreciation for feet from the start and you have to slowly ease them into the sexual aspect of it. Once I start getting intimate with a girl, I'll always pull off her socks and give her foot massages. Every once in a while, I'll find opportunities…
/r/seduction26/12/20 12:56 PM
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I could tell you youtube videos, books and articles, but I doubt it'll be anything new. You already have all the information. If you want to understand the nuances and get a more instinctive deep understanding of game then you gotta go out and fail over and over and over again and learn from it. No way around it bro. At the end of it all, it's all about experience.
/r/seduction15/12/20 05:28 PM
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Honestly, it doesn't really take that much to stand out as a quality girl these days. Most people are so self-obsessed because of the internet and social media that a girl like you, who isn't very into it and comes across pretty authentic (in writing at least), is a breath of fresh air. Now, if you want some actionable tips to be more interesting in general, I would suggest start being more proactive in learning or engaging with new activities and hobbies. If you don't read books but always kind…
/r/seduction15/12/20 02:27 PM
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No. Please read the Edit I added to the post.
/r/seduction15/12/20 10:49 AM
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You're right to think this and I second this 100% Please keep in mind the context of the situation. The girl was bring very flirty and touchy with me, even though she had rejected me. If I got the vibe that she really wasn't interested, wouldn't have pushed it this far.
/r/seduction15/12/20 10:45 AM
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Nice! For a while I actually used to use it as a technique. I would do something very ballsy in the beginning of meeting a girl, just so she would reject me and I could demonstrate this. I don't do that anymore and wouldn't recommend it, but if you have issues with escalation, then being aware of this phenomenon could relieve you of a lot of anxiety.
/r/seduction15/12/20 08:21 AM
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Exactly! And as long as you have the right attitude, girls will let you get away with a lot of things. But, it's important to also be able to differentiate between a clear cut rejection and a situation where even though you got rejected in the moment the girl is still entertaining you.
/r/seduction15/12/20 08:19 AM
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I appreciate the love man! I just posted an extra example of this phenomenon in one of the comment replies. Check it out if you enjoyed this one ;)
/r/seduction15/12/20 08:16 AM
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Please keep in mind the details here. It's not like the girl rejected me and walked away in the initial interaction. She kept talking to me even though I did try to kiss her. Even on the date, when she rejected my kiss, we were still being very touchy with one another, holding strong eye contact and the like. Notice how she was giving me hand massages and even sat on my lap despite rejecting me. If this was a situation where I tried to kiss her and then she walked away, or things turned complete…
/r/seduction15/12/20 08:14 AM
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I think you just like him a lot and started overthinking the situation because he didn't send you an overtly positive response. It makes sense. That's normal. But don't give up so easily. Ask him a question and see if he reciprocates. That's a better indication of his interest level rather than if he called you sexy back or whatever.
/r/seduction05/12/20 08:09 PM
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What the hell is up with these comments? How is his response negative exactly? What did you expect him to text you? If I received a text like that from a girl, I would respond in a similar fashion just because I'm not the type of guy to start doing backflips just because I was told I'm sexy. I suggest you ask him a question that gets a conversation going. For example a simple "Been up to anything fun lately?" Wait for an answer and if he asks you something back, then you simply answer without as…
/r/seduction05/12/20 07:54 PM
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That's also valid. Personally I find a thrill in closing via cold approach. But I understand that not everyone sees value in learning that particular skillset to Mastery.
/r/seduction04/12/20 10:51 PM
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Exactly what I'm talking about! Thanks for the comment.
/r/seduction04/12/20 06:17 PM
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I understand your confusion on the topic. When it comes to seduction, there are a lot of paradoxes. People say that you shouldn't have an outcome in mind when talking to girls, but if you're completely free from outcome then why would you escalate things? Or they say that you should be the prize, but then also expect you to go out of your way to approach. There're a lot of paradoxes like these, but as someone that's been in the game for almost four years, I managed to reconcile a lot of this con…
/r/seduction28/11/20 11:02 AM
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Honestly, almost nothing's changed for me. I don't go out as much as I used to in order to limit my exposure, but when I do see a cute girl I want to talk to, mask or no mask, I approach. The only differences in my game is that I initially have to stand a little further away than usual on the approach, use a couple statements of empathy related to Covid and do the touching elbows thing rather than a handshake. But after the initial few moments, I make a few jokes, girl laughs, I'll ask her to gi…
/r/seduction28/10/20 10:01 AM
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Learned.
/r/seduction01/10/20 07:48 AM
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Bro, I understand your dilemma and I get where you're coming from. Due to the content online about seduction and pickup, we often get a very skewed idea as to what creates attraction and how to keep people interested. However let me be the first to tell you that even though asking a lot of questions should be avoided, the vibe behind what you say is even more important! I've gone through massive development the last 3 years when it comes to my expression. Initially, I was struggling with what to…
/r/seduction24/09/20 05:53 AM
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This is a question that troubled me as well a few months ago. After some research and being a little bit creative, I made some quick adjustments to my game that seem to work for me. Negative intent - You don't want to make the girl feel that she has you. All you want to do is create a sexual vibe into the conversation. Negative intent is very good for that if it's not overused. Instead of saying "I love you" you say "I hate you". If the girl teases you about something, you can say "Fuck you" in …
/r/seduction02/09/20 09:56 AM
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Honestly, I don't think that you asking questions is the problem, but perhaps its the vibe behind your question asking as well as your input to the topic. When I'm on a date with a girl, I tend to also ask a lot of questions especially in the beginning, when I'm not really warned up socially. However, I always keep a very playful tone to my questions and also try to keep them interesting and unpredictable. Another cause of this could be that all you do is ask questions and after you receive an a…
/r/seduction02/09/20 09:30 AM
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Im glad I could be of help man. As for what to do for your date, my only advice is meet up with her and have fun dude
/r/seduction12/07/20 09:53 PM
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Ah, I understand now. Good question. If you're following the principals correctly, then you should be building towards the meetup from the beginning. How I like to text, is that I usually offer value in the form of life updates and when the girl replies, I immediately start qualifying her on how she's spending her time. This accomplishes two things: 1) She has to qualify herself by saying something interesting, because if she doesn't then her life will look boring compared to mine. 2) It gives m…
/r/seduction12/07/20 07:39 PM
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Im not sure I understand your question.
/r/seduction12/07/20 06:42 PM
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Personally, whenever I get that, I say something along the lines of: "Oh you sound busy.. Honestly, I think we should schedule it another time. If we hangout, I want us to be relaxed and not have the pressure of time against us." It builds attraction because I show that Im not in a hurry to meet her and I have a standard for how I use my time.
/r/seduction24/02/20 06:20 PM
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When she says something that really impresses you: "Oh my God, fuck you!" Give it a second for her to react "I love [insert impressive thing here]! I hope this is nkt fate or something." This is more of a personal push/pull that is tailored to my personality and game. But you can use it as an example to make your own. "You know, my mother won't accept little white girls like you, but if you show her your [insert complimentary characteristic] Im sure she might reconsider." Last but not least, whe…
/r/seduction19/02/20 09:24 PM
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Todd, thank you so much for doing this. Since your return you've been on a roll with the opportunities and content that you're giving us. But that also has made me insecure about many things. I've been studying game for a year or two now, I'm 19 years old and still a beginner. I'm having trouble connecting with a girl as game gets in the way of me actually succeeding (if that makes any sense). And ever since your reveal of the various lies in the community I feel that I probably spend all this t…
/r/seduction06/12/17 10:32 PM
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