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"intelligence" when used by females doesn't really mean real intelligence or IQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:26 PM
1

I know they exist, but I haven't seen any irl. It's more common for a woman to pair with a man out of her league than vice versa. The common denominator in all relationships that actually work is the man having higher SMV than the woman by 2 or 3 points. And I would advice against trying to look for that unicorn who doesn't act on her hypergamous nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:41 AM
0

What are the solutions? You can't fix it as hypergamy is biological and the laws will take generations to catch up. The best the average Western can do is SEAmaxing or XYZmaxing in general. Relationships where the woman depends entirely on the man is likely to work, and this condition isn't satisfied with modern Western women. You may think this is too controlling as she has the right to leave whenever she wants, but this is exactly why modern relationships are more likely to fail than work. Too…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 08:21 AM
0

Creepy means you disgust me, and what women feel disgusted with in men is mostly looks or/and lack of masculinity. So to answer your question, sometimes it's looks alone, sometimes it's not depending on the context. Contrary to popular belief, women are more visual and superficial than men. People think it's the opposite because they see more pretty women with ugly men than pretty men with ugly women, but this is the case because rich ugly men can easily get pretty women, but ugly women can't ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:15 AM
3

Most women get married for money, and once the money is gone, so are they. This should be taught to all men early on. And if they decide that the "sex-as-long-you-have-money-and-I-withdraw-sex-whenever-I-want" deal is worth it, then at least they know what they're signing up for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:36 PM
1

Is it true that deep down men are seeking wholesome relationships while women are looking for unpredictable and drama-filled relationships? Yes, you can think of it this way: both genders have two sexual strategies, a long-term one and a short-term one. The short term one for men is hook ups with any woman that allows it, for women it's good looking men or men with the dark triad personality. For the long term one, men pick conservative virgins and women pick rich high status men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 11:35 AM
2

Sure, but only to pump and dump because that's the best a ho can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 11:28 AM
2

There is extensive evidence about differences between males and females when it comes to the outcomes of higher number of sexual partners. If you're too lazy to look things up, then I'm even lazier than you. But again, you're a woman who's likely to have a high body count, so there is no point trying to convince you about something that feels like a personal attack for you. For most men though, it's almost self-evident that ho's never make good wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 11:09 AM
1

Most dating problems would be solved if men start having realistic expectations I disagree, men neither have hypergamy nor an amplified hypergamy, but modern women have both.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:50 AM
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So you're picking leftovers way below your SMV then thinking to yourself that picking up women is easy? Anyone can pick up oldies, fatties, uglies and ho's. All it takes is approaching them and asking for a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:37 AM
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Look up the effects of higher number of sexual partners for males and females. For males it's mostly positive stuff, for females, it's the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:54 AM
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so having a lot of casual sex increases the chances of this? Ofc. i feel like it’s not that black and white man It's not, but I'm over-simplifying the issue so it can be understood. also just as much of a chance for men to do this True, but one difference is that men are unlikely to ruin their relationships due to previous ones, but women are likely to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:51 AM
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Both the science and the collective experiences of men support the notion that a woman with a high body count can't be wife'd. One has to be mentally retarded or delusional to disagree with that at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:49 PM
1

Body count wouldn't matter only if one isn't looking for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 02:33 PM
2

I hate to say this, but for any Western female in her late 20's or older, chances are she has a body count higher than 3. And virgins represent less than 5% iirc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:59 PM
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Outliers don't change the general rule. And women seem to have a thing with bringing up outliers, it's as if they have no sense of basic statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:29 PM
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Why empathize when everyone on the planet is over-empathizing with them for things they don't even need empathy for? You guys think women would become better if they receive even more empathy? It has the exact opposite effect on them; the more you spoil them, the more unmarriageable they become.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:22 PM
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Not necessarily sex, it could be anything from money, looks, humor or whatever. The comparison is involuntary and I have never seen a woman able to keep her marriage despite feeling that her current partner isn't better than her previous ones at some aspects. It's theoretically possible, I mean for a woman to understand her own nature and do the right thing despite her feelings, but this is so rare that it's better for men to assume it never happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 11:13 AM
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Asking is pointless as women always lower their numbers or avoid giving an answer. However, a good rule of thumb is to multiply whatever number they give by 3. A better way would be to observe her actions around men, check out her friends (whether she has female promiscuous friends or a lot of male friends) and see how feminine/shy she is as the more experienced she is, the less feminine and more flirty she gets + better bed skills. Although a lot of women fake being feminine and innocent, you'l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 10:56 AM
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It's a real thing, and not just according to RP or misogynistic men. You can test it out yourself, but you'll waste time and resources doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 10:49 AM
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Body count is the best predictor. Virgins are best, followed by the ones with less than 3. At 3 or higher, you get into a zone where it gets progressively more likely for her to be an alpha widow, which isn't something you can fix.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 10:28 AM
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Delusional about what you think is attractive in men; most women say something but do the exact opposite of what they claim, this phenomenon happens in dating and marriage in particular, but not necessarily in other topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 09:15 AM
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Extremely rare or delusional. I would advice guys not to assume that such women exist because it'll significantly lower your chances of attracting and keeping a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 09:08 AM
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Not uninterested, they need it less. Nature made them that way so males take care of them in exchange for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:50 PM
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Not uninterested, they need it less. Nature made them that way so males take care of them in exchange for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:50 PM
0

So why should men date instead of paying nowadays? For the 0.1% chance of finding a decent woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:51 AM
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I disagree with your reasoning, although I do agree with the conclusion. Men shouldn't project their honesty, rationality and accountability into women in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:42 AM
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A body count of 3 or more means she's likely to be an alpha widow.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:00 AM
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By natural, I mean what nature intends. Nature made males, and not females, have coolidge effect for the purpose of having sex with multiple females.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 08:43 AM
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It's natural for a male human to have sex with multiple females, but the opposite is unnatural. If you deny the existence of the natural and the unnatural in biology, then having 6 fingers becomes natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:45 AM
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It's true that most people who think they're a catch aren't really a catch, this is especially true for women due to lack of self-awareness. However, you have to take into consideration the recent change in the sexual market place in Western societies. Most Western women nowadays are either excessively hypergamous or not wife material in general, which means irrespective of whether one is actually a catch or not, there isn't enough wifeable women for most Western men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:15 AM
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Low agreeableness explains it; criminals are likely to have the lowest agreeableness, and women are naturally inclined to submit and be attracted to such men. Also, disagreeable men tend to be confident with better leadership skills. That's why acting disagreeable get you success with women if you're an agreeable man. Women's response to disagreeableness from men is the same, whether it's natural or acquired. Hell, even if they know that men use this way to get in their pants, they will still re…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:49 AM
-1

How about you leave the country since you don't like that there are people who live with you and have a different worldview? They have the right to stay just like you do, stop spreading this dumb nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:43 PM
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Women are already hyperselective, and flooding them with semi-infinite options will only make it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:22 AM
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It gets progressively more difficult for the male to have sex with the female the longer he waits, that's the general rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:16 AM
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I'm confused; you already disqualify men for reasons far less important than hygiene, so why not just add this one?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:39 AM
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Permanently? less than 1%, temporarily? less than 10%. It's not in the nature of a female to support someone other than her offspring, it's in her nature however to receive support from males.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:17 AM
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If he makes you feel butterflies in your stomach, then chances are he's in it for sex only. Women would have saved themselves most of their failures with men if they knew this, but they never listen until it's too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:38 AM
3

It's more beneficial for a man to believe no such thing as real love between a man and a woman as apposed to believing it exists, even if it truly exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 01:49 AM
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RP is mostly pragmatic people, and pragmatism cares primarily about what works even if the scientific observations and experiments do not support it. Empiricists, like OP, do the exact opposite: anything that's not scientifically confirmed is rejected even if it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 05:06 AM
1

Men are less animal-like, while women and children are more animal-like. Being animal-like means doing things due to pleasure or pain. For example, if a man feels pain or lack of pleasure in a marriage, then this is often not sufficient for him to ask for divorce, while for women it is often sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:39 PM
0

Why do they feign rationality only for their male supremacy to show later? Why don’t they be honest about their actual beliefs? Why do you think it's not rational to think that males are superior to females? Also, there's nothing to prevent believing in something that's actually true, unless you believe that all beliefs are false, which is self-contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:29 PM
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Women simply have to be like that if dating is so bad and full of games, competition and dishonesty. If women have to be picky, then they're either forced or ignorant. But they're neither forced nor ignorant, therefore, they don't have to be picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 04:44 PM
1

It's counterintuitive, but when you disrespect women, they respect you, and if you respect them, then they disrespect you. This applies to 80~90% of women worldwide.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:48 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 10:38 PM
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I disagree, personality matters GIVEN you have the $$$ and/or looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 03:06 AM
0

Because you weren't approachable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:55 PM
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They had, but you couldn't get yourself to see them as potential partners, especially if you were attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:16 PM
1

You do, they're just invisible to you, unless you're old/obese. And even for these, they can easily get matches on any dating app anytime.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:49 PM
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If you find one, let me know. Best of luck.
/r/RedPillWives09/02/22 05:23 PM
1

Hypergamy has a lower limit but it has no upper limit, so if a guy is good looking, she'll consider having sex with him, but if he's not well off, then she may not stay for too long, and the same goes for attractive men who lack masculine frame. Women deep down only want to pick the best of the best of men, and virtually no man out there can ever be enough; as women lack the intellectual capacity to recognize what traits can be found in one single man, and what can not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:24 PM
0

You can't empathize with something you will never experience, unless you have the mental capacity to understand it on a conceptual level. Men are able to do that, but women can't. So on the aggregate, it's just men empathizing with women, who in turn empathize with their kind or lower creatures like children or animals, and it's a mistake to expect anything more than that because it's beyond them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 01:44 PM
1

Your background doesn't matter unless it's socially inappropriate for you to go out dating which isn't given you're a Western. And statistics are a pretty good indicator especially for predicting female behavior, as females are more alike than different when it comes to being slaves to their emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 12:41 PM
1

Also : I won’t be sleeping with them outside if the wedlock so ya All CC riders have said that before riding, I'll give you 2 years max.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:44 AM
1

A. Hypergamic, B. Materialistic, C. Hedonistic, D. Hypoagential.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 12:44 PM
7

Men's standards are too low Too low compared to women, and women tend to have unrealistic standards anyways. And if most women aren't wife material, then it doesn't matter what kind of standards you have. A lot of men, including OP, don't seem to grasp that the majority of men are forced to settle with sub-optimal women due to universal lack of good women everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 05:10 AM
1

Wanting women who are more attractive is normal given that most men are unattractive, what's not normal is women wanting men who are more attractive given that most women aren't unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:45 PM
0

What would you consider to be the issues with “modern dating”? Having sex not for the sake of marriage. This fucks up dating for men as most women they date will be used up, and it also fucks it up for women as most men they date won't commit. The only winner in this mess is Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:55 AM
2

If a lot of sensible people agree on something, then it's unlikely to be false. So in the worst case scenario, the pills will be partially false and mostly true as they cover a lot of topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:18 AM
5

Blue pill advice works for women only; they literally don't have to do anything beside looking pretty, and maybe hide being a former hoe if they want anything long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:05 AM
1

It depends on several factors: Whether the person is married or not. Whether there are children or not. Whether the woman is likely to cheat or not. Whether the job is alternatable or not. A good rule of thumb is that, if there is no marriage nor children, then it's generally better to favor career over women, because success brings women and not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 04:29 AM
136

I haven't seen someone having this many of red flags at once.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/01/22 03:09 AM
4

It'll be the same old 20/80, but for traditional-minded people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 02:48 AM
5

Females: resources + emotional rollercoaster. Males: sex + comfortable home.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 05:51 AM
2

It's not lying, they just have some sort of slave mindset we men lack, that's why they gravitate towards men who act as their masters. Don't hate them for it and make use of it. You don't have to actively "abuse" them, just be more assertive than unassertive with them until it becomes a second nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 04:40 AM
1

How can I express that I’d like his focus to be more internal on what we have and that he does have a feminine, submissive wife at his side, rather than on the many “wild, masculine single women” out in the world? Show him through your consistent actions that you're not like these women, and give it enough time.
/r/RedPillWives29/01/22 04:14 AM
5

Superiority satisfies hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 02:09 AM
1

Not exactly lying, because there's no conscious intent to hide something they know to be true, they just act on what they feel, although some do lie. Our explanations of female behavior often assign depth to something inherently superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 02:03 AM
1

Nobody is being themselves 100% anyways, except when they're alone in the bathroom or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 01:52 AM
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Women are abnormally critical when it comes to physical imperfections, so it's never a good idea to care enough to ask them such a question in the first place. You can't have a look that fully satisfies them anyway; their physical expectations are unreal. If you're fit, hygienic and know the basics of dressing, then you're as good as you can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 10:32 PM
-1

Go gay, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 10:21 PM
-2

It's a sign of weakness to have to rely on deceiving others. You're short, so what? Can't find a woman? Go for shorter women, problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 10:17 PM
2

noT bodyshaming though Why not body shame? Women always talk shit about short/ugly/poor men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 09:37 PM
-2

If it's mostly unknowable for others, yes this is deceptive, if not, then no. This applies to women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 09:31 PM
3

The average man is taller than the average woman The average woman doesn't view the average man as taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:46 PM
3

From an objective pov, most people are uninteresting as elements of interestingness such as charisma, creativity and intelligence are rare. From my personal pov however, I find women who don't fit in the narratives of redpill/blackpill interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 09:56 AM
4

Status >> more important for long-term. Looks >> more important for short-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 06:59 AM
1

Both are shallow, but more women than men. And men are honest about being shallow, but women aren't even aware of being dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:41 AM
1

If women should have the right to reject sex for any arbitrary reason, then men also should have the right to reject full commitment for any arbitrary reason. That's why marriage is a pretty bad deal for men in countries where polygamy is illegal, because it disables their ability to reject full commitment when needed, which eventually leads to dead bedrooms or cheating.
/r/RedPillWives27/01/22 10:02 AM
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"Like attracts like" is vague, you have to define in terms of what. Any two humans will have a lot in common statistically speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:35 PM
0

Only if she has a high body count. Virgins or women with a body count of 1~2 deserve to ask men to wait for sex; they're a different species and shouldn't be mixed up with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:55 PM
2

I think being best platonic friends with you’re partner is ideal. I agree, but this is rare, and one shouldn't establish any system of thoughts on something that rarely happens, especially if it's meant to be for all or most people. I'm pragmatic, if something mostly works and isn't immoral, I'll follow it, TRP or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:40 AM
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Not necessarily, because contempt is seen in a minority of TRP community, or during the first few months/years of being exposed to TRP. And being one's true self isn't inherently a good thing, otherwise one should act in front of a president just as they would act in front of a friend. Also, even if you can't be yourself 100%, it doesn't mean you can't partially be that way or be yourself infrequently, this is a common misconception among TRP'ers themselves, for example they claim that one doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:20 AM
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I disagree, women are naturally hypoagential, so they barely need any active instruction on how to date, or to be more precise, it won't make much of a difference in their case, but men on the other hand are hyperagential, and they have a gynocentric culture brainwashing them into doing the opposite of what they should do in dating and marriage. TRP, even if it includes some BS, should become common knowledge for men. The only subset of men that don't really need TRP is natural alpha's who are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:19 AM
1

Females are superficial creatures, so they almost always go for perfectly masculine/fit/handsome/tall looks. However, this is based on attraction at the first sight, for a long-term one looks become secondary and whatever evokes their emotions (masculine personality, humor, occasional flirting/gifts, intelligence, game) or money/status become primary.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:37 AM
1

This only matters if you want to be flooded with pussy 24/7 throughout your life which is abnormal. If you're a normal human being who seeks marriage and family, then looks wouldn't be a significant handicap given you got a good job and you're looksmaxxed, with the exception of being extremely short which only covers a minority of men anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 11:30 PM
1

It's desirable, I already established that in my other comment. I have also added that one shouldn't care that much about not being able to compete with better looking men who are also redpilled. There'll always be men out there better than you in about every aspect anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 09:18 PM
1

Not inconsistent with my comment, because there's more than one reason why a man can't be redpilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:04 AM
6

A man with looks has the advantage to attract a woman, but if he’s redpill aware too he’ll also know how to maintain her attraction to him, making him a juggernaut, unstoppable. That's true, but why should you care? Not like you can change your genes. And good looking men are always a minority, so it won't affect you as much as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 07:05 AM
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Who cares why, it's not your job to keep her entertained, and females can't be kept entertained all the time anyways. If she wants out, make it clear through your actions that she's replaceable at any moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:56 AM
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If every man was redpill Won't happen; there's a subset of men that can't be redpilled. wouldn’t that put the average looking man at a considerable disadvantage against the gorgeous man? Not necessarily, because what it takes to attract women isn't the same as what it takes to keep women attracted. For the former, you need looks more than masculinity or game, but for the latter, you need masculinity or game more than looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:36 AM
2

You should assume that every nice thing a guy does for you is to get in your pants, and you won't be right all the time, but you'll be right most of the time, which is sufficient practically speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:11 AM
1

If you're a young woman, then mostly yes. And if you're a young pretty woman, then almost always yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:03 AM
2

If porn shouldn't be normalized, then prostitution shouldn't be normalized either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:21 AM
3

Induction. Not every single thing has to be backed up with a meta analysis study to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:02 AM
1

My advice would be not to take advice from other women; they'll almost always give you a bad advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:56 AM
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Men's desensitization is fixable, women's isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:37 AM
1

Tells her she's beautiful >> she doesn't try to change anything >> less beautiful women around >> her own value increases.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 09:10 AM
1

Devalue? A hoe is objectively a hoe irrespective of anyone's subjective opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:39 AM
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I disagree, unless you equate men's inability to make money to women's inability to have sex. And if the woman has the right to leave a man who no longer supports her, then a man should also have the right to leave a woman who no longer agrees to sex. That's how it should be, but the laws are doing the exact opposite by allowing women to take men's money against their will, without allowing the men to have sex with the women against their will, and this is unfair to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:24 AM
1

Irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:03 AM
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The effect of casual sex on men isn't the same as its effect on women. Casual sex not only ruins women's capability to settle down with most men, it also makes them disgusting in the eyes of men who want to commit and establish families. You don't feel disgust towards men with a high body count, but men do. And no, it doesn't prevent them from having sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:58 AM
-1

Women feel the spark towards men who want to use them for sex. It's bad because it's unfair for men who want to marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:47 AM
-2

Your strategy is acting based on emotions primarily, and your emotions lead you to becoming a hoe when left to your own devices.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:24 AM
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Translation1: I don't like it because it's not to women's benefit. Translation2: Women's benefit == my own benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 11:16 PM
3

I don't think it's something acquired, this is universally true of all humans in all times. Why would that be the case, I would guess that humans were created (or evolved so you don't lose your shit) in a way that most are emotional and manipulatable so it becomes easier for the leading minority to lead them to do what's best for them. The real strength of humans lies behind their ability to cooperate with each other for a common goal, and to best achieve that you need a majority following and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 09:58 PM
2

You can't justify cheating being wrong if you don't believe that fornication is immoral. The best argument you can come up as a Western is appealing to Western norms of cheating being viewed as harmful to partners, which is a pretty weak argument, because you can use the same reason to justify all kinds of BS under this ambiguous harm term, like not speaking the truth because it harms some people. You said it's betrayal of trust, but if I ask you, why is betrayal of trust wrong? Ultimately, you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 09:41 PM
10

Most people can't argue about something important to them without making it personal. Get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 09:31 PM
4

Because being honest and offensive is better than being dishonest and inoffensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:19 AM
5

Higher income and/or feministic views for a woman increase her chances of getting a break up and/or a divorce. Such a woman makes a poor choice for men going for something long term, but not necessarily for anything short term.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 04:49 AM
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I think it's unreasonable to shit test women with one's vulnerability as most would inevitably fail and for something that's involuntary. Of course she can choose to stay despite feeling disgusted, but why would you want to stay with someone who feels that way towards you? You don't really need to share your vulnerabilities with anyone to begin with, but if you have to, then do it with close friends or even strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 12:01 AM
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Take the collective answer of what women say you should do, then do the contrary of that. This works because the female mind is hard wired to think of attraction in a feminine way, and femininity is the contrary of masculinity which actually attracts them. Examples: open up >> never open up, don't be controlling or selfish >> be controlling and selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 07:47 PM
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I would love to see you arguing with gays about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 05:00 AM
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Whatever, his 3 ways are neither exhaustive nor disjoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:24 AM
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4th: Become gay. It's not risky, and it doesn't require luck nor hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:10 AM
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It’s crazy to think about, but men seem to be a leading cause of death for women Because other causes rarely happen; females don't have enough testosterone to dare to do anything remotely dangerous. Hell, they don't even dare to ask men out due to fear of rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 09:56 PM
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Less rapes, other than that, not much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 09:54 PM
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OP asked about life success in terms of love, sex and romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 09:24 PM
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Repeated failure with men will teach you, that's assuming you have the brains to learn from your mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 08:56 PM
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Nothing would change; even ugly women are hypergamic and men would still fuck anything that moves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 08:46 PM
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That's delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 08:44 PM
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What most men look for in women: A. Acceptable looks/age, B. Reasonable body count, C. Feminine qualities, D. Domestic skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 08:21 PM
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I'm not saying you should, I'm explaining why high value men will avoid anything serious with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 08:09 PM
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Society is producing good fathers and unfit mothers I disagree with the wording, either use fit fathers instead of good, or bad mothers instead of unfit. I would suggest avoiding the latter because any objective description of females is considered misogynistic if it offends just 1 female, and misogyny nowadays is like heresy in the middle ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 08:01 PM
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Is a confident woman a threat? Yes, because the inherent male-female dynamic is similar to that of employer-employee, and when the employee argues with the employer over every single thing they ask them to do, then why would the employer want to keep such an employee? Confident women can learn to STFU and submit, but this is rare, so it's better for men to avoid such women all together, or only use them for hookups. This is for masculine rational men, men who lack masculinity and/or rationality …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 07:21 PM
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I would love to be optimistic, but the statistics are clear on this one; only 15% of all marriages are considered happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 06:53 PM
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Objectively speaking, the best kind of life for a man is that of a man who was lucky enough to find a good woman, after that the mgtow, then at the end comes the man whom we're all likely to become, aka the one married to a normal woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 06:43 PM
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but they have it HARD in terms of finding the men THEY WANT to commit to them I disagree because if you're making a mistake while trying to do something, then the added difficulty is on you and not on the thing you're trying to do. And females have unrealistic, if not unreal, expectations most of the time when it comes to dating and marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 06:33 PM
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Think different? Persuade me. Just because you're convinced that you shouldn't make anything better for women, doesn't mean you shouldn't make it worse. For example, you can spread ideas of mgtow among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:40 AM
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Mature ≈ sensible ≈ realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 09:40 PM
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I wouldn't say they've realized their place as women lack self-awareness. And settling is said for accepting a proposition considered sub-ideal relative to what she believes she can get, irrespective of whether she can actually get it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 08:54 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 08:36 PM
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Because maturity is common for men, but not for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 08:23 PM
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Do you believe your wife settled for you if you’re not 6 feet? All women settle, redpilled or not. Are you bitter about it because you were settled for or believe your wife/LTR can’t be truly attracted to you? I understand female nature and I try to keep it under my control as much as I can. If you believe your wife is truly attracted to you, why can’t other women also be attracted to their average height partners? My wife is submissive to me, attracted or not is not that important for me. for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 08:15 PM
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You can't become them, but that doesn't mean you can't become your own version of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:06 PM
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Being naturally alpha is like being naturally intelligent, it's great to have, but not really a must to have. Part of what makes humans exceptional is that they don't just imitate others, they actually learn and develop a skill as they're imitating. If you're not intelligent, you can try to act intelligently by simply doing what intelligent people do, of course you won't be as good, but you won't be as bad as unintelligent people neither, and the same goes for being alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 06:53 PM
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Better looks compensates for one's lower income, and higher income compensates for one's worse looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:54 AM
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Best described as women who believe in gender traditional roles.
/r/RedPillWives15/01/22 01:40 AM
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Women are more self-protective than men, and it mostly has to do with testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 11:24 PM
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Analogies don't have to have everything in common, just one convincing commonality is sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 11:16 PM
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Just an analogy to illustrate the existence of an actual difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 10:56 PM
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Hook up sex isn't the same as relationship sex, one has the intention of marriage the other does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 10:33 PM
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Hook up sex and relationship sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 10:29 PM
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Sex without the intention of marriage isn't the same as sex with the intention of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 10:24 PM
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Is me taking your money without your consent the same as me taking your money with your consent? By your logic, it's the same because in both cases, I have taken money from you, it doesn't matter if I used my right hand or left hand to take it, or if it was taken at night or at the morning, in all cases, money was taken from you and that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 10:17 PM
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Do you think a man who is a high earner (top 10%) but is frugal and leads simple life will ultimately have less luck with women then someone who earns less but enjoys to to spend his money on shiny objects and fancy dinners? Definitely. The reason is simply women are superficial and they use superficial parameters to gauge financial capability. That's why pretending to be poor is so effective at eliminating LVW's.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:48 PM
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when women are cheaters its way harder to tell Because most men are oblivious to female nature. For example, sudden changes in a woman's appearance or behavior or views don't even register as a sign of cheating for men. Also, men have no idea that losing their masculine frames and/or allowing their women to be surrounded by men and/or letting their women be friends with hoes CAUSE their women to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:17 PM
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Ignored in his 20's, becomes a beta bux in his 30's, by 40's he'll be divorced, then gets stuck in OLD chasing after LVW's, and if lucky, goes mgtow or seamaxxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 07:24 PM
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It requires a great deal of maturity for both the man and the woman. And maturity for men is common, but it's rare for women. For example, most men are okay with their women's looks deteriorating with age, but most women aren't okay with losing feelings with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 06:05 PM
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Part of it has to do with the individual, the other part has to do with society. Back in the 80's or earlier, it was normal to treat women as inferiors, but now not only it's not, it's also frown upon to not treat them as superiors, and a lot of men nowadays don't even dare to defend themselves when assaulted by women, let alone hitting back.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 05:52 PM
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This doesn't change that you're a CC rider.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 07:29 AM
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Most are, including you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:14 AM
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So the average man has to become not so average just to have a shot with average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 01:06 AM
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I have no problem with this snowflake mindset, but if you don't take generalizations in consideration in dating, then don't take them neither in other areas of your life like health, finances and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 08:59 PM
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Most Western women are CC riders, and most Western men will inevitably take what's available for them. Whether they decide to get married or not is a different matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 07:51 PM
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The reason behind the misconception of women having equal rational capacity as men is because of IQ tests, and IQ tests do not exactly measure rationality, although they measure things associated with rationality. Another reason is that women themselves are incapable of seeing the difference between themselves and men, just like how teenagers believe they know better than adults, but they won't know they don't until they themselves become adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 07:38 PM
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The average man has no problem dating the average woman, it's the average woman who has a problem dating the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 05:27 PM
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Very attractive men are a minority, so necessarily most women you'll see won't be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:38 PM
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The comments confirm that most women lack self-awareness, which is a sign of inferior rationality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:29 PM
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If you're short, you're fucked, if you're tall, you're privileged. And this is not counting women's tendency to view men who are neither short nor tall as short.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 10:45 PM
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No simping is better than simping, but the right simping beats both. By right, I mean the right degree and frequency.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 10:11 PM
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I have a mother and three sisters, only one out of these four is a NAWALT, and it's these good women, even though they're rare, that have changed my view of women as a collective. But to answer your question, no; I accept women being women as I accept snakes being venomous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 09:25 PM
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accumulation of wives objectifies and dehumanizes women Then accumulation of employees objectifies and dehumanizes people. favoritism and wife-wife dominance is inevitable Favoritism when involuntary, it's normal and it doesn't admit of immorality, if it's a voluntary act however, then it becomes immoral and in Islam, polygamy is allowed only if there's no favoritism of the second kind. Wife-wife dominance has more positives than negatives for both the women as well as the man. these women have …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:18 PM
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The problem is that it doesn't work for women. Just because you're delusional about it working for you, doesn't mean it actually works for you, let alone working for other women less masculine than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:54 PM
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If they should be wary of them, why shouldn't they be wary of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:22 PM
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Not parasiting, it's what nature has chosen for the female: to receive resources and nurture. Like I said, if you don't like being a female, change your gender. Gay males would love parasiting on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:11 PM
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You're hard wired to receive resources, and not provide them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:00 PM
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2022 or 3000, human instincts never change. If you don't like being a female, cut your breasts and vag off.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 01:50 PM
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Dateless: no game nor looks, but has money. Jobless: no money, but has game or looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 03:56 AM
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Humans are animals, and animals have dominance hierarchies, thus humans have them too. However, humans have an additional kind of dominance other animals lack due to lacking rationality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 03:47 AM
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Yes. I'm against pre-marital sex though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:34 AM
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As body count increases, more damage occurs, but the most damage happens between 0 and 1, then it starts getting less and less until it no longer makes a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:19 AM
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Two long paragraphs just to say man up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:14 PM
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I intentionally gave a book instead of a study to shut you two up; nothing convinces someone who asks for a source for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:10 PM
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If that was true, then men-only companies would be as profitable as women-only companies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:00 PM
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The book of Numbers - Aaron Clarey.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:43 PM
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The breaking point is that nowadays we have solid statistics proving that: A. Good women are rare, B. Most men lose more than what they get, C. The loss grows exponentially as the involvement with a woman gets longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:33 PM
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Sure, but this doesn't negate what I just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:11 PM
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When random men are together, there's a tendency towards improvement than degeneracy, for random women however it's the opposite. It takes 1 good man to fix 10 bad men, but it takes 1 bad woman to ruin 10 good women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:33 PM
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Same reason why people continue living when their lives suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:39 PM
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"Fixing" all of these wouldn't change anything. In fact, it will ruin it for some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:32 PM
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Ineffective; all women all the time will have many men after them. A better alternative would be to prevent women from getting resources by means other than their men. We have a long history of this dynamic working like a charm.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:14 PM
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Women preferring to stay at home and rely on their men to secure resources isn't parasitic, it's natural. And shaming women for this is immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:24 PM
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What you find off-putting has barely anything to do with these men not getting dates or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:50 PM
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Women think what they look for in men exists, when in fact it either doesn't or it doesn't in the same man. Smart women end up having multiple men, and smarter women accept reality and choose one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:39 PM
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A. Maintain a significant difference between you two in SMV, B. Go for women capable of being faithful, these tend to be raised in religious/conservative cultures with low body count, C. Make enough income so she can stay at home instead of having to work with male co-workers.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/22 08:29 PM
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It doesn't have to be valuable in itself, it could be valuable through eliciting valuable replies, which is what's going on right now for readers reading our convo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:45 PM
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Beliefs aren't essentially of imaginations, you can believe in something that turns out to be true; like believing the sky will rain today. Also, just because some part of our perceptions is personal, doesn't mean no part is impersonal. If that was the case, then my words to you and your words to me wouldn't have been understood at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:28 PM
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The truth of something is defined as the thing as it is. There is no such thing as one's own truth, just like there is no such thing as one's own numbers, numbers are just numbers, they aren't mine nor yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:53 PM
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Nature doesn't operate on rare things, that's why women being attracted to men based only on looks is unnatural; it messes up with the natural order of dating and marriage. Let me use an analogy to illustrate: making money by selling commodities is a natural source of money, but making money by money itself is an unnatural source of money, the former is healthy for economies, but the latter isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 05:52 PM
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Maybe, but one can't and shouldn't be absolutely unbiased.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 05:45 PM
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Having bias is required to defend a pov, if you have absolutely no bias, then you can't really defend a pov, let alone the right pov.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 05:33 PM
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Nobody is totally free of bias, and not every bias is bad, for example you can be biased towards truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 05:07 PM
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Not like a person holding resentment towards the other sex can't provide any value at all in a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 05:01 PM
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The reason why TRP'ers say judge women by their actions is because women have little to no self-awareness of how vastly different they act compared to what they say. Notice how most focus here is on changeable features even though it's on unchangeable features irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 04:23 PM
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A negligible point, and no, I don't support LGBT.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:52 PM
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Female teens are more attracted to femininity, unlike female adults who are more attracted to masculinity. This change in what they find attractive can be explained by the change of their hormonal levels, just like the change occurring due to ovulation and birth control pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:37 PM
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It's multifactored, but I would argue it has to do mostly with women not needing men for resources, this is what has ignited women's overfocus on looks. Combine that with their hypergamic nature and how sexual economics work, then you get a complete picture for why men's experience is binary on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:22 PM
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Mostly instinctual to ensure the survival of one's genes, but there's an obvious rationale behind it; the past isn't really divorced from the future, and you see the manifestations of this everywhere: universities ask for GPA, banks ask for credit scores, employers ask for CV's, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:05 PM
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No biggie, I was disconfirming some ideas I had in mind.
/r/RedPillWives08/01/22 02:25 AM
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Last question, would you describe him as emotionally unavailable?
/r/RedPillWives08/01/22 12:37 AM
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Good for you. Just wondering, is he good looking? And are you guys of different races?
/r/RedPillWives08/01/22 12:32 AM
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Most women lose their sex drive in a rate faster than that of their men, and this is not even counting losing it due to pregnancy or menopause.
/r/RedPillWives08/01/22 12:06 AM
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Who said killing is immoral? And what makes you qualified to qualify me?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 11:57 PM
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You won't stay that way for too long, that's why I said to keep allowing, and not just merely allowing.
/r/RedPillWives07/01/22 10:59 PM
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Consent isn't sufficient to make an inherently immoral act moral. If you give me the consent to kill you, that doesn't make the killing moral. And religions enforce, but not determine, what's immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:56 PM
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That's like disagreeing with the fact that stealing is immoral, which is fine by me as I expect nothing less from Westerns raised to view fornication as normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:40 PM
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If you keep allowing sex even if you don't feel like it, then you're already doing a better job than most women in human history. The rest, such as being welcoming and personal hygiene, is secondary.
/r/RedPillWives07/01/22 10:33 PM
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Fucking someone you're not married to is immoral, even if they agree to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:27 PM
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From a cost-benefit perspective, being single beats being un-single for the gender that's more likely to be independent than dependent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:39 PM
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Not the most effective solution and it's immoral. Correcting the dating market can be done primarily through correcting what interferes directly with what make men and women stay together, and not through what interferes directly with what make men and women attracted to each other as this is secondary. And what make men and women stay together can be summarized in two conditions: A. Mutual need, B. Difficulty of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 08:47 PM
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If men understand that good women are rare at all places in all times, then most of the bitching in the manosphere concerning how dating/marriage sucks for men would stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:49 PM
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You can only be alpha or beta respect to other males There's more to it because humans are a mix of nature and nurture. Some alpha's are beta'nized and some beta's are alpha'nized. So if you are overly concerned about how you measure up against other men, you are showing your own lack of confidence. Not necessarily; just because I'm overly concerned about how I measure up against you in terms of x, doesn't make me less in terms of x, let alone lacking in x.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:33 PM
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Women didn't magically find themselves making more money, most pursued such a goal from the beginning, and some did it only for the sake of pairing with even richer men while ignoring the reality of how rare for a man to make more AND not want a younger woman. So it's completely fair to say that these struggling women have dug their own graves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:17 PM
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Success can be defined in terms of end goals, which can be classified into: A. Dating primarily for pleasure, B. Dating primarily for utility, C. Dating primarily for true love. Achieving A is common for women and chads, achieving B however is common for women but not men, and achieving C is the rarest for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:04 PM
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If something is the case most of the time, then it's as valid as something that's the case all the time. And yes you have it tough, everybody does, but it's nothing compared to what men normally go through in life. You should be thankful for being a woman instead of bitching.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:48 PM
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He said to be a man means taking responsibility for your own life which is incomplete, because men take responsibility for their own lives as well as the lives of their women. That's why women inherently won't and can't be held accountable for their own actions, at least not in the same way or degree as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:06 PM
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The threshold below which a person is considered ugly for men and women is vastly different; men consider most women as not ugly, but women consider most men as ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:46 PM
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Not in a woman's best interest to argue about having a life with difficulties; we're fully aware that you do have some that we don't, but that's like a rich person bitching about not knowing what to do with their money in front of the poor. I would advice you to learn when to stfu; men find silent women more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:09 AM
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Because a broken key can still open locks, but a broken lock can't lock shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 06:07 PM
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Females throughout their lives rely on instinctive behavior far more than rational behavior, and it's only from the perspective of a minority of females, who are capable of rational thinking on a level equivalent to males, such behaviors sometimes appear to be counterproductive or even contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:55 PM
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Money, children and feelings. Sex is included in the 3rd category because it's more of an emotional need than a bodily need for females.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 03:49 PM
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Just because they're interested in discussing stuff related to women online, doesn't mean they're not already focusing on their careers irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 03:22 PM
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Dating apps should be named hook up apps because that's what they really are. And hooking up lowers the chances of being in a fulfilling marriage later on.
/r/RedPillWives06/01/22 02:10 PM
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Nice guys and nice girls used by redditors mean clingy emotional people who are delusional about being nice, and expect such "niceness" to be sufficient to get them a partner, so there isn't a real difference between these two, beside maybe women being more persistent and men being more rude. However, these two phrases have other meanings that don't mean the exact same thing; a nice guy could mean an undesirable submissive male and a nice girl could mean a desirable submissive female.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 11:57 PM
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Closure may be needed if the woman actually matters, but for random females on a hook up app who are easily replaced by other random females? Total waste of time and energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:04 PM
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Recruiting =/= applying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 04:55 PM
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An employee can apply for any job they want, but the employer can't get an employee they want to apply for the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 04:50 PM
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HVM: Rich, 30's or 40's, tall and fit/muscular, handsome, masculine. HVF: Virgin, early 20's or younger, beautiful face and body, feminine. I would add a particular race, but I don't want my comment deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 04:13 PM
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This is not what people do not agree on, it's the rights and obligations justified by these differences that people tend to disagree on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 03:24 PM
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Not defined by a number, that's like asking what number of water drops to consider a place with water a sea? We may however give approximations for a utilitarian purpose, just like what governments do by defining poverty with income. A person is considered promiscuous if they had more than one sexual partner in a short time or more than 2 sexual partners in a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:32 PM
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Me desiring to get my c*** in your ass does mean that you desire getting it up your ass. We can test it out if you're unconvinced.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:31 PM
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Normally, women wouldn't work this hard to keep a man unless there's a significant socioeconomic difference, which often includes a racial difference.
/r/RedPillWives05/01/22 12:03 PM
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A woman who gets it and doesn't need me to put her in her place.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:10 AM
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Your standards are too high if they're above what your SMV permits, and what one's SMV permits depends on gender and the aim behind the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 12:23 AM
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No inconsistency between these two.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 09:26 PM
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Are you of a different race?
/r/RedPillWives04/01/22 09:20 PM
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I would set them up for an arranged marriage at young age to avoid the toxic dating culture all together. With this, half of their problems will be fixed, and the other half is covered with patriarchal parenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:50 PM
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Some animals kill each other for food, so it's natural for humans to kill each other for food. That's your argument and let's take it a step further, some animals fuck their mothers, so it must be natural for us too, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:27 PM
1

Good for you, but that doesn't mean what I just said is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:11 PM
9

Open your eyes and understand what it means for most females in this thread to say none or never. Females are hyperconscious of how they're perceived; they need to because their survival and reproduction depend on it. And if they're asked with a question that carries the potential to view them negatively, they'll give the answer that removes such negative view from them, or only answer if their answer will remove the negative view from them. Keep in mind that females treat their gender as their …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 06:23 PM
0

Easily explained if women were viewed as a commodity. Their selectivity (price) increases online because of the increased number of approaching men (demand), irl the number of approaching men (demand) decreases, so does their selectivity (price).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 05:49 PM
2

At first, no, after a while, yes. A good analogy would be friendship, friends at first become friends for the sake of pleasure or utility or both, however, if the friendship lasts long enough, it becomes for the sake of the friend himself irrespective of pleasure and/or utility.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 05:41 PM
1

Men assume women have thoughts behind their actions, when in reality they mostly act based on what's felt at the time, then they make up some thoughts when asked by men to justify their actions and these thoughts often have nothing to do with the actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 04:32 PM
2

There exists no radical members in a group of people incapable of being radical. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 04:20 PM
1

It's a transaction, but not only a transaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 04:12 PM
3

If male-female interaction is defined by sex and sex only, then most males wouldn't go further with women than buying sex because this is the most cost-effective strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 04:04 PM
3

If females desire being protected and provided for, then it makes sense to think that males desire protecting and providing. Sex is the icing on the cake and not the cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 03:11 PM
1

For example, the average female asks men to open up, yet, when they do she feels turned off. If she was aware of her own nature, she wouldn't have asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:35 PM
1

Genetic fitness for males isn't the same as genetic fitness for females, that's essentially what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:28 PM
3

I disagree, the average female does have some cluster B traits in her with varying degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:49 PM
12

If you give females all or some of what they ask for, they wouldn't like it, and if you don't, they wouldn't like it either. From this, we can logically conclude that what females want either lacks substance, because it keeps changing, or it doesn't exist in reality, because it's imagined.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:41 PM
0

In Islam, women can't get married without their male guardian's permission, but they're allowed to reject men they don't want. I don't think it can get better for both women and societies than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:44 PM
5

Stupid people view opposing views stupidly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:37 PM
1

A small minority of women, like the ones here: r/RedPillWomen, are actually improving themselves, although most of guys wouldn't get to find one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:31 PM
2

The problem isn't hypergamy per se, it's the removal of all restrictions served to keep it under control in the name of liberty and freedom. At this point in the internet era, I don't believe it's possible to control hypergamy anymore; the average female feels abused if she happens to see a female online with a better partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:33 PM
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A. Not everything is provable nor proved by citation, B. Being aware of something implies being aware of its effects, and women aren't aware of the effects of female nature, therefore women aren't aware of their own nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:07 PM
-1

Then you have got a fair amount of masculinity in you, it even shows in your ID.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:04 PM
-4

You're a male and you're projecting into females, that's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:00 PM
-1

Men shouldn't even be judged sexually based only on attractiveness, this is unnatural to women. If it was natural, then humanity wouldn't have survived for thousands of years. It's however natural for men to judge women based only on attractiveness because most women are already attractive enough for men to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:54 PM
0

I didn't give a particular member, I gave a genus of particular members. It's like being given a 3D map when asking for a 2D one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:38 PM
9

So feminists who say kill all men are representative of feminists, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:33 PM
1

I would advice men not to date fat women who intend to lose weight unless it's casual, because the moment a woman loses weight is the same moment she decides to go on a monkey-branching spree. That's why the best way to keep a woman is to looksmax or prevent her from looksmaxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:20 PM
3

https://damienmarieathope.com/2015/08/sexism-in-jainism/?v=32aec8db952d I'm sure you can do the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:00 PM
12

Tricks are to magicians what female nature are to women, except women aren't even aware of their own nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:56 PM
63

Name one group of humans, literally any group, and I'll easily find a radical member in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:44 PM
4

It's not just she's not paying attention, females naturally deny female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:48 PM
2

For those thinking it doesn't work, it does, although it doesn't guarantee getting a gf, it increases your desirability just like pheromones. The explanation is that females can't reason well, so they rely on imitating what other females do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:43 PM
2

To get sex or keep women on a leash. What else you had in mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:35 PM
3

The mere fact that it's only men who care about controlling biases and questioning one's objectivity is a strong evidence for men being more objective than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:17 PM
0

To women reading this hoping to find men who would accept their less attractive faces, it doesn't matter because you only aim for men who aim for hotter women than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:09 PM
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Mainly two reasons: A. Men care a lot about fairness, and the 20/80 rule is the most unfair thing about dating right after cheating. B. Men also care about fixing problems, and the 20/80 rule has the potential to fuck up societies for good if left unrestricted, let alone when it's encouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:51 PM
1

Weak evidence because: a. Some types of cancers plus MS aren't representative of all terminal illnesses, b. There are other stuff males are far more prone to such as job accidents that weren't included, c. Even if your evidence supports your claim, my claim isn't false because I said terminally-ill (((OR))) unemployed, one of these two being true is sufficient for my entire claim to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:35 PM
1

The problem is that you can't hold these women accountable because they aren't consciously lying although some are. I don't know if there's a word for this kind of unconscious lying, but most women do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:39 AM
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There's no slut-shaming for men, the closest equivalent of that for men is money-shaming. Women are gauged by their chastity and men are gauged by their resources, these aren't just traditional norms, it's what men and women use to judge the suitability of a partner for marriage in all countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:27 AM
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Being tall has nothing to do with being traditional. Also, just because I smoke, doesn't mean I'm not entitled to ask for smoke-free zones.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:21 AM
1

First, it's women who most likely leave their men when terminally-ill or unemployed, and not the other way around. Second, marriage makes it less likely to happen, but it's by no means an insurance against that. What affect keeping a partner the most are how long the couple has been together, whether they have children or not, the body count of the woman and the masculine frame of the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:12 AM
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Females are hard wired to side with other females, so when you see a woman claiming to see both sides, it means she's actually siding with women by equating the unequal sides of men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:57 AM
1

What do East Asian and South Asian pertain to?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:35 AM
8

And this goes for men and women No, just men. Literally all young women have orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:55 PM
0

Cooks, cleans, allows sex and knows when to STFU. No female can get better than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:46 PM
3

Both; the former has an acquired alpha-ness, the latter has the natural kind. Btw only 5~10% of males are naturally alpha's.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:21 PM
3

Humor requires creativity, and females lack creativity because nature didn't make females to solve problems to begin with, unlike males.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 08:47 PM
10

Teens may prefer sensitive men, but their preference changes into masculine men in their 20's or older. Also, the degree of masculinity women require in men is different depending on their own level of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 08:32 PM
1

You look better with more hair, consider growing a short beard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:16 PM
5

"You're average at best."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:08 PM
17

Females 101: If you find the collective of females agreeing to something related to dating or marriage, then it's flat out wrong or inaccurate at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:01 PM
0

Works best for whites is what you're trying to say, and I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:43 PM
1

Dating in SE Asia for Westerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:01 PM
0

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:31 PM
11

Most people prefer whites over non-whites, and un-prefer blacks over non-blacks. This is not even an opinion at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:26 PM
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Asians have higher IQ on average and IQ is correlated with higher income, that's their best bet. Another option would be SEAmaxxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:17 PM
7

That's the general part of it, the specific part has to do with women being unable to pair with men whom they view as less than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:13 PM
9

No need for that to be said; women already reject men who show more neediness than them due to hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:10 PM
12

Non-whites in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:22 PM
2

I think you'll ride the CC eventually, I'll give it a year or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:41 PM
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Men have most of the money and women spend most of the money, so what do you do? Add more laws to facilitate the transfer of money from those who have it to those who spend it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:13 AM
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Women like hearing lies about themselves, that's pretty much it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 11:30 PM
1

You're totally clueless about morals and morality, so let's leave it there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:48 PM
4

It's not men suddenly became shorter or uglier, it's the women's expectations that have skyrocketed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:40 PM
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It used to be that way in the past, but nowadays dating in the West has changed a lot for men, iirc about a third of Western males in their 20's or younger are virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:40 PM
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Women have inherent value which men lack. That doesn't mean women can't improve their own value, neither does it mean that men do not have any value at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:29 PM
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A lot of Westerns already do that, there's even a word for it which I can't remember, it means going to SE Asia just for dating/marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 06:31 PM
1

Your husband needs to learn that women are a lot like pets; they need to be kept under a leash or they go around biting people. Introduce him to TRP.
/r/RedPillWives30/12/21 06:25 PM
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Looks matter a lot, but can you change your height? If the answer is no, then why bother? This is the stance TRP, or any reasonable man, takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 05:31 PM
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Some women do, but generally it's not as important as looks, resources or masculinity, with the exception of intelligent women who almost never pair with less intelligent men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 03:29 PM
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Nothing good comes out of going against mother nature. Nature has made females to have babies in their younger years, stay at home to nurture them and receive resources from males. This isn't just a social construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 03:19 PM
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I come from a culture that teaches TRP to men in a practical way, so I would say most of their ideas are accurate, my main criticism however is lack of morals in the whole thing, which isn't really a problem of TRP per se, it's a problem for most Westerns in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:15 PM
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You can vet her as she's vetting you by making it clear that you don't make a lot, and if she leaves, then you've probably dodged a bullet, but if she didn't, then you've certainly found a gem. Don't show anything that reflects your financial status though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 01:57 PM
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Nothing of what TRP'ers say about women is new as female nature never changes, it's only new for modern feminized Westerns who have never read anything ancient written on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 06:51 PM
1

C- Being replaced by a younger hotter woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 05:59 PM
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The explanation is simple, just like how males seek females for sex or for raising a family, females too either seek males for pleasure or for utility. That doesn't mean one can't seek the other for both, it's just one will be more important than the other in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:44 PM
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It has to do with modern women viewing their SMV as higher than their real SMV due to cosmetics, app filters, plastic surgeries, online simps, feminism and hook ups w/ chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:26 PM
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Assume it's not most men, what difference does it make? That doesn't disprove what I said about men avoiding or hooking up w/ attractive women.
/r/ExRedPill27/12/21 09:22 PM
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From the perspective of a Canadian, it doesn't look like it because you have been raised to view it as normal even though it's not. I'll use an analogy: Imagine someone is allowing you to stay at their place without paying rent. If you're a good person, then you'll feel bad despite the fact they have given you consent because you know it's unfair for them that you're using their place without paying them. And if you continue to act like this, ie. living at people's places without paying rent jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:30 PM
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Which part? Everything I have said is common sense, at least to most men.
/r/ExRedPill27/12/21 04:18 PM
0

You got triggered because what I said is true.
/r/ExRedPill27/12/21 04:15 PM
1

The difference between marriage and prostitution is the same difference between buying something and stealing it, one is fair the other is unfair. However, this difference doesn't make sense from the perspective of a modern Western who was raised to view sex within a marriage as sex outside of it. In a society where people are raised to think of something essentially bad as non-bad, most will believe it as such and only a minority of naturally virtuous people won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 08:57 PM
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I'm being on topic, it's you who's being slow. The reason killing is bad is the same reason hoeing, or fornication to be precise, is bad, both are unfair and all unfair things are essentially bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 06:42 PM
1

If I claim killing isn't bad, what evidence can you present to disprove that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 06:27 PM
3

Not even a counter argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 06:24 PM
3

Unethical =/= illegal, which means just because something is legal doesn't mean it's ethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 06:22 PM
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Sometimes being politically correct is unethical, such as being indifferent to women becoming increasingly hoe-ish. This has nothing to do with being a religious tradcon, sane people all over the world find prostitution bad, and of course women have the right to hoe around or even kill themselves for all I care, the act is still essentially bad, and this is not even counting the negative implications it has on families, societies and the women themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 06:13 PM
-10

How does foreplay work for women? Give as much detail as you can please. And do you agree that most women prefer sex to be rough?
/r/ExRedPill26/12/21 12:18 PM
1

They're associated with it, but do not define it. A good father is someone with good fathering qualities, such as being responsible and disciplinary.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 11:43 AM
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Average > Median is a right-skewed distribution, which means a minority has a lot of sex and a majority has sex less than the average. That's not an unreasonable claim IMO because: 1. Dead bedrooms occur in about third of marriages, 2. A minority of women allow sex with no restrictions, 3. A minority of men have pretty high libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:06 AM
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A minority does, but it's much less important than say money, looks or masculinity, although women will try to convince you that it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:43 AM
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It doesn't matter why, just do it until it becomes a habit.
/r/ExRedPill26/12/21 02:06 AM
1

Critical thinking isn't developed by asking these questions, it's developed by being critical with regard to the logic of arguments. If you don't know logic, then you can't develop critical thinking.
/r/ExRedPill26/12/21 12:23 AM
0

Not everything about the RP is false, this is what you guys in this sub need to realize. Merry Christmas.
/r/ExRedPill26/12/21 12:15 AM
1

First, what makes something true or false isn't whether it's new to you or not, a true thing is true and a false thing is false irrespective of how many times you have heard of them. Secondly, just because there are answers, doesn't mean these answers have successfully disproved the arguments.
/r/ExRedPill26/12/21 12:05 AM
1

Most men don't mind marrying women who are lower than them socially and/or economically, but most women do. My question for you is: Why?
/r/ExRedPill25/12/21 11:53 PM
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I'm not saying hypergamy is bad, I'm just saying women are naturally hypergamous. If you can't differentiate between these two, then that's on you.
/r/ExRedPill25/12/21 10:38 PM
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No, but I'm pretty sure you understood what I just said.
/r/ExRedPill25/12/21 10:21 PM
-1

Women never miss any opportunity to claim victimhood even if it's not warranted. That's why this thread is full of women blaming all irrelevant problems they had with their husbands on TRP.
/r/ExRedPill25/12/21 08:33 PM
0

If you're really 9 out of 10 in looks, then men either avoid you due to assuming that you're already taken, or they only want sex from you without commitment, because relationships with extremely good looking women are often unstable in the long run since these women are likely to monkey branch eventually.
/r/ExRedPill25/12/21 08:23 PM
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Most men are beta providers, that's a statistical fact.
/r/ExRedPill25/12/21 08:13 PM
1

Your loss then. Merry Christmas.
/r/ExRedPill25/12/21 08:06 PM
-1

That's too general, give specific examples and I might be able to help.
/r/ExRedPill25/12/21 08:00 PM
0

I learn more from people who disagree with me than those who agree.
/r/ExRedPill25/12/21 07:56 PM
0

The enemy of an enemy is an ally.
/r/ExRedPill25/12/21 07:54 PM
-1

What if he's right and you're the one in the wrong?
/r/ExRedPill25/12/21 07:53 PM
-4

A downside of TRP is seeing females for who they are; inferior humans who may look more beautiful on the outside, but they are much uglier on the inside.
/r/ExRedPill25/12/21 07:47 PM
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If women aren't hypergamous, then most women most of the time don't marry men who are higher in social and/or economical status than them. That's all the evidence you need.
/r/ExRedPill25/12/21 07:43 PM
2

You have a way with words. Consider writing on a blog or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 03:10 PM
2

Giving without taking comes naturally to men and not women. You have to brainwash a woman since childhood with religious dogma's for her to be able to give a man without expecting something in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:10 PM
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This doesn't contradict what I said. And I agree about women seeing most men as unattractive, I'll add that it's not because of men being unattractive per se, but because women compare attractiveness of men not to the average, but to a top percentile.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:02 PM
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Males need sex from their partners more than females, and females need resources from their partners than males, that's why tactics of each gender will be fundamentally different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 11:17 AM
1

There are three kinds of men when it comes to LTRs with women who make more than them: A. Men who indeed feel emasculated, so they try to make more or they force their women to become housewives, B. Men who have realized that such pairings aren't sustainable in the long run, so they don't go for these women all together, C. Men who neither feel emasculated nor have they realized that such relationships aren't sustainable , and it's often these men who end up becoming victims of women's hypergamy…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 07:28 PM
1

Her age is relevant due to her experience of approaching men, and not her looks which is not positively correlated with her approaching men. The importance of being approachable is debatable though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 07:07 PM
1

I have added factors that affect the probability the most, so ofc it's going to be reductive. And no, E and F have minimal effect compared to have I have mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 06:38 PM
2

Men can always fix their lives at any stage, but women can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 06:07 PM
1

The probability of a woman approaching a man depends mostly on three factors: a. Her testosterone levels, b. Her age, c. Whether the man is a chad or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 05:39 PM
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In a medium where being inconsistent with one's effort is rewarded and being consistent is punished, it's only natural for men to adapt and become consistently inconsistent with their effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 02:38 PM
1

It depends on what's the function behind this ambiguous " being a prize" description, because women have two modes pertaining to function: one for utility over pleasure, the other is for pleasure over utility. For the former, attributes like being rich comes first, for the latter it's the other attributes like looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 12:49 PM
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No they do not. Of course males do have their own set of preferences, but it's inaccurate to call it male hypergamy, although you could make a strong case for males being hypogamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 10:17 AM
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I disagree for two reasons: a. Science deals with well-defined terms, and the way you put it isn't precise, b. Males don't have hypergamy, so it's tempting to falsely project their non-hypergamic nature into females, hence the need for them to know about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 09:55 AM
1

These are two separate points. Men preferring virgins over non-virgins for marriage, and preferring non-virgins over virgins for pleasure is equivalent to women preferring wealthy men over poor men for marriage, and preferring psychopaths over non-psychopaths for pleasure. And just because men looking down on non-virgins doesn't prevent them from considering these non-virgins for pleasure, women looking down on poor men doesn't prevent them from considering these poor men for pleasure as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 09:35 AM
1

So you haven't been approached by a man who is both below average looking and creepy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 09:08 AM
1

I disagree. Men often make the mistake of projecting their rationality into women. Of course women can be rational, but it's not natural for them and they rarely follow reason when left to their own devices just like teenagers. A woman who has dated all types of men won't make better decisions regarding dating and marriage compared to a woman who has not. In fact, she's likely to make worse decisions due to becoming an alpha widow, which is often unfixable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 08:58 AM
1

I don't know about evolution, but unless you know the function of something, then you wouldn't know why x feature is present or why y feature is not. For example, if you know the function of an iphone, then you wouldn't wonder why doesn't it weigh 50lb.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 08:54 AM
1

Have you been approached by a man who is both good looking and creepy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 08:48 AM
0

Some parts of the TRP are definite, like hypergamy, some other parts however are probable at best. To my knowledge, there hasn't been any scientific attempt to summarize the definite parts of TRP in one source with extensive research to back it up. Rollo's books are a good start, but they fall short of the scientific standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 08:37 AM
1

A minority of men are naturally masculine or alpha's, and the rest have to acquire it by practice. During the initial phase of acquiring it, it's easy for most women to pick up on cues that such masculinity isn't natural, however, after acquiring it the reverse happens, it becomes difficult for most women to see through it. So what you said is both true and false depending on which type of masculinity and at which stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 08:06 AM
0

I agree, the problem with women, and bluepilled men too, is that they don't realize that their response to "toxic masculinity" as spoken or written words isn't the same as their response to it as actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 07:59 AM
3

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 09:31 PM
4

A man who thinks he's the prize doesn't treat his woman as an equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 09:02 PM
4

Not dumber than yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 09:00 PM
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Females are wired to feel attracted to males who treat them as inferiors, and they're repulsed by those who treat them as equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 08:54 PM
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The average male is disgusted by the idea of wifing a hoe, and this is not socially constructed because it's shared by most males in all countries, but what defines a hoe though? This is where it gets tricky. Technically, it should be a non-virgin who has had sex with multiple men outside marriage, but for Westerns, it has become difficult to draw the line between a hoe and a non-hoe because sex outside marriage has become the norm and most available women for them aren't virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 08:21 PM
1

It's not that I'm against it, it's the fact that it's mostly gonna suck for these feminine men. Masculine women still prefer masculine men even if they claim otherwise. These women have to choose one of two evils: Not getting things their way but attraction to their men is maintained, or getting things their way but the attraction is not maintained.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 08:03 PM
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Why is this subreddit skewed towards males? a. Males care more about effectiveness, improvement and achieving results compared to females due to innate difference in agency, b. Females know how to attract males instinctively, unlike males who need some sort of education on female nature and game, c. The average young female doesn't need to put much effort to secure a bf beside existing, but the average young male needs to put a lot of effort to secure a gf with a high bounce rate in the initial …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 07:29 PM
3

Most modern men haven't realized yet that modern women have unreasonable entitlement compared to older generations of women. The reason behind the exaggerated entitlement is multifactorial, but one can not stress enough the role of social media. My theory is that females naturally have the tendency to unconsciously ruin other females' marriages as a way to compete for males, this tendency got out of hand with the introduction of the internet, and it's almost a certainty for all women now to be e…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 04:39 PM
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The way female attraction works is like this: Any single trait in males isn't sufficient for selection, but it's sufficient for deselection. This applies to most traits including body odor.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 04:30 PM
1

Time to mansplain. You said RP'ers have fragile ego and their confidence isn't real, which is partially true at best, since there're two types of confidence: natural and acquired. Men who have the former represent as low as 10% of all men, so it's the norm for men to acquire confidence, and not have it at birth as you're trying to suggest. Acquiring confidence requires time and practice, which is what RP'ers do and encourage men to do, so your argument is valid insofar RP'ers are acquiring the c…
/r/ExRedPill20/12/21 06:56 PM
0

You don't get it. I said if I do x and y happens, then it doesn't matter from a practical point of view what exactly in x has caused y. Example: when I eat enough food, I feel full. Now, which part of me eating enough food has caused me to feel full? You could argue it's the eating per se, but you could also argue it's my body's physiology and so on, but all of these why's do not change the fact that I felt full after eating, which is what matters practically speaking. About morals, this is a di…
/r/ExRedPill20/12/21 06:38 PM
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Practically speaking, the "why" doesn't matter.
/r/ExRedPill20/12/21 03:06 PM
2

Saying "this is someone's opinion and not yours" is an opinion that's not yours either, yet you're following it religiously. You're following a bunch of opinions that aren't facts, but still ask others to follow facts only, for example: "only follow facts not opinions" isn't a fact. Also, religions aren't built on beliefs only, maybe this is the case for your religion (Christianity), but Islam is built on beliefs AND facts. I could go on and on, but there's too much BS in your comment and I have…
/r/ExRedPill20/12/21 10:10 AM
0

Before securing child support or after?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:55 AM
1

What if you're being delusional about life? Like, life wasn't supposed to be this way to begin with.
/r/ExRedPill19/12/21 09:27 PM
2

We Muslims believe that this life can't and won't be perfect, it's the afterlife that will be as such. So we make do with what we have got as nothing here is perfect.
/r/ExRedPill19/12/21 09:12 PM
2

The problem with asking women is that you're assuming what they share with you corresponds to reality, which is rarely the case. Women are naturally oblivious to the discrepancy between what they say and what they do.
/r/ExRedPill19/12/21 08:46 PM
2

Two options: a. Forget about women and find something else more fulfilling, b. Chase money and women will chase you.
/r/ExRedPill19/12/21 08:16 PM
1

View this as your ticket to real freedom; you no longer need to become a workhorse for an ungrateful woman, which is what most men end up becoming.
/r/ExRedPill19/12/21 07:59 PM
1

Although I agree with most of what you find wrong, your critique itself is filled with a lot of strawmans and irrelevant points pertaining to TRP'ers and not TRP.
/r/ExRedPill19/12/21 06:51 PM
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Men who show carelessness to women tend to attract them. This is one of the main techniques PUA's use on women that work like a charm.
/r/ExRedPill19/12/21 06:38 PM
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On the contrary, I became more attractive to women because I have stopped trying to charm them. For friendship, I don't befriend women to begin with, so no.
/r/ExRedPill19/12/21 06:21 PM
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Physical attractiveness is objective, but that doesn't mean there isn't a subjective element on top of it. A lot of people try to exaggerate the role of this subjective part in attraction, and I think it depends on whether the selection was taking place in a short period of time or in a long one. If it's short, like when a woman is swiping on a dating app, then the effect of the subjective element on attraction is close to being nonexistent, but if it's long, like in the case of a co-worker a wo…
/r/ExRedPill19/12/21 05:47 PM
2

Be in control, or be controlled.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/21 04:23 PM
1

For natural alpha's? It makes no difference, for the rest of men? It depends. Knowing about the RP for men who already practice RP knowledge due to patriarchal upbringing is a plus, but for men who have been raised by single moms in feminized cultures, it becomes a necessity.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/21 04:06 PM
1

TRP is primarily about female nature and gynocentrism, but it has been mixed over the years with stuff from PUA's and self-improvement guru's.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/21 03:31 PM
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When a woman says "not my type" it means the man isn't out of her league, because the norm for women nowadays is to go for men way beyond what their SMV permits, although it wasn't like this in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 12:44 PM
0

General trends apply to you irrespective of what you want or feel. Most women, especially good looking Western women, do not keep their virginity beyond early 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 12:35 PM
3

TRP isn't just one group of bitter men, it's multiple groups with multiple agenda's, unlike FDS which is more uniform in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 09:44 AM
2

Submissive, young, virgin and pretty. No sane man can say no to these qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 09:16 AM
-2

Nothing's easier than predicting the behavior of females.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 08:45 AM
-2

Keep dreaming. You'll give it up within the next year or two, the only time a woman stays virgin is when nobody shows interest in her or when she's in a culture that condemns having sex outside marriage. Other than these two cases, she's almost guaranteed to lose it by early 20's at max.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:50 AM
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Female nature implies receiving resources, and just because there're a few women who provide for their men doesn't mean they don't feel resentment towards them. The explanation is that women can convince themselves of any BS that goes against their nature, just like how men can delude themselves into thinking that they're okay with their women showing skin to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:12 AM
1

Dating a man only for his resources is equivalent to dating a woman only for her body. Both are morally wrong even if the other party allows it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:53 AM
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Chads having fun among crowds of single moms, incels and MGTOW's.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 09:45 PM
37

The real freedom is to not be tied by women. Men can live happily on almost nothing, it's when a woman enters a man's life it becomes unnecessarily complicated and stressful. That's not to say that women who make the lives of their men better do not exist, they're just so rare that it's better to assume their nonexistence than to assume otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 09:14 PM
1

This is unethical, but in societies where most women get rid of their husbands as soon as they lose their jobs, one might argue that such act is a lesser evil in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 06:23 AM
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The statistics support what she says; the success rate for both men and women on dating apps is as low as 3%, and the reason is simply unregulated hypergamy. Women often go for men out of their league with the intention of getting commitment, but they only get hook ups, and men often go for women within their league with the intention of commitment, but they only get rejections. Consequently, this creates the 20/80 dynamic where a minority of men get a majority of women, so both the majority of …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:57 AM
0

I disagree, these men are being pragmatic. Give me one valid reason to go for women who are older, richer and smarter than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 09:21 PM
1

A lot of what makes a man high value in the eyes of women is the same as what makes a woman low value in the eyes of men. For example, older age, higher income, higher status, higher IQ, higher masculinity, higher body count, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 06:50 PM
3

Chad: A desirable male. Stacey: A desirable female.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 02:16 PM
4

Women are unaware of how the behavior of other women affect them, nor are they aware of how their behavior affect other women. There's even a term for this, it's called female solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 04:22 AM
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Men are definitely easier to deal with as they often say what they mean and they often mean what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 11:14 AM
1

You're assuming that both sexes care about the same things in the same way, which is obviously false. The concept of body count means nothing for women, but it makes all the difference for men, just like how height is important for women, but not for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 09:38 AM
1

Marriageable women in the West have become a rare commodity, so no, it's not worth it in most cases, especially with the anti-male laws. Outside the West, I'll give a maybe depending on the quality of women as well as the laws concerning marriage and divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 09:24 AM
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Because lack of success for men on OLD isn't caused by having higher standards, it's caused by women rejecting men on their level mainly due to presence of Chads looking for hook ups only and consequently, they ruin it for both average men as well as average women who are seeking LTRs/marriage. In a sense, allowing Chads in OLD is like allowing males in female-only sport competitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 09:05 AM
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Submission.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 01:14 PM
1

I agree, I was just using his own terms to convince him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:33 AM
0

A kindhearted guy with good looks and/or high income can get women to sleep with him once or twice, but he can't keep them long-term; he will need some level of jerkness to pull that one off.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:06 AM
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I never said replace, I said it will lower the chances for some women. Learn to read with the intent to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 04:22 AM
1

I don't do chivalrous acts for a reward, I merely do them for ethical reasons, although I have stopped doing them for women after getting into trouble several times.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 04:14 AM
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Because it'll become a threat when enough men do it, and the average woman's chances of finding someone to marry is affected. You may think that no woman wants such men to begin with, but you're underestimating the influence such men have on other men who may have the potential to be someone's husband if they work on themselves a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 04:00 AM
7

Male-female relationship is inherently transactional, that is, sex and offspring for protection and provision. If you take one part out of this, then it stops being a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 02:39 AM
5

"Nice guy" pertains to a male with high Agreeableness (Big Five personality trait) who gets exploited by others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 01:58 AM
1

Both genders can be like this, but there's a higher proportion in women than men, which means there could be more than one mechanism behind it, perhaps one is biological and the other is psychological or something. Most women here will deny it because it would potentially make them look bad, and this doesn't reflect the situation irl where most would be attracted to dismissive men. Also, as women get older, they don't magically lose interest in dismissive men, they just change their preference f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:46 AM
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You seem to be referring to my comment, in which I tried my best to explain to you what should be obvious, but you still don't get it. And no, I'm not sexually frustrated; I'm happily married. Actually I have two wives, yes you heard me right, and both were virgin when I married them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 01:36 PM
3

I don't think it's possible for dating to become "normal" again, not after the internet happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 01:17 PM
1

Take a random sample of what male friends mostly talk about, and another sample of what female friends mostly talk about, then let me know if there's anything in common between the two of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:53 AM
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A minority of men will react that way and nobody has control over that. It's like trying to force all women not to be gold diggers, you'll have more luck invading Mars than accomplishing this. About preferences, it's fully acceptable to prefer a 10/10 man over other men, however, this is not the position men are taking when criticizing women's preferences. Men get angry over the fact that such preferences are: a. completely unfeasible or even delusional, b. harmful to the women in the long run, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:08 AM
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I'm trying to be polite here, but I can't really disagree with this one. I'll change into "if you don't agree with some of what I say, then you're likely stupid" though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:47 AM
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I know my shit, make a survey to test out my definition. However, if you don't know basic statistical knowledge, then forget it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:26 AM
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This is what defines a HV woman for most men in most countries most of the time, whether they can find such a woman with all 5 traits or not is irrelevant. You won't find a more accurate definition than this one, at least not on this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:16 AM
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You're not taking into consideration how female nature works. Two points to disprove your statement: a. females underestimate whatever SMV males have when it's put next to top tier SMV males; since they don't compare SMV relative to the average like males do, they compare it relative to the top tier SMV available to choose from, this is pure unrestricted hypergamy at work. b. females, unlike males, are completely unware of their own real SMV for a lot of reasons, lack of self-awareness, confusin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 04:55 AM
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A HV woman is a women who's 1. young (ideally younger than 25), 2. chaste (ideally virgin or less than 3 body count), 3. feminine (ideally the natural kind of femininity), 4. above average looking (ideally stays in shape and knows how to dress/use cosmetics), 5. has domestic skills (cooking, cleaning, doing laundry, etc). Statistically speaking, HV women compromise approx 10~20% of all women worldwide, the range is due to differences across countries; in most Western countries it could be as low…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 04:05 AM
1

That's even a better option than what I have mentioned, except for those looking for kids, and for these it's safer and less expensive in most cases, given the risk involved in divorce, to pay for a surrogate mother instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:27 AM
2

I disagree with the naive view that men just need to work harder even when it's clear that it's no longer reasonable to work this hard for a low SMV 304 who genuinely believes she's entitled to better men than you and has a lot of feminist friends to top it off if she's not a hardcore feminist herself. So what's the alternative then? Go for young non-Western women from a conservative country with 2-3 points SMV lower than you if you plan to get married, and don't get married if you plan to go fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:49 AM
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I agree, but let's make an important distinction here: men are far less delusional and dishonest than women about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 04:59 AM
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I have no problem with the way females are, in fact, nature wanted them to be that way to serve some functions different from the ones served by males. Let me give an example, females naturally have no sense of right or wrong, at least not in the way males have, this is to ensure an opportunistic extraction of resources from males with little to no remorse as they have evolved to feel entitled to males' resources. Now this may sound extreme, but when it's viewed under the inevitable need to prot…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 04:52 AM
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Interesting point. I've also noticed that often it's not really the performance per se, but rather whether the man doing it has kept his masculine frame or not. Performance wise, most women prefer rough sex with a bit of foreplay before and that's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 01:06 AM
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Womens' fake niceness is used to disarm potential threats and extract resources. Genuine kindness in women is rare, I would argue it's rarer than the one in men who can be both the most unkind as well as the most kind gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 05:38 PM
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This is the norm for males, for females however it's not; not only they don't know what they want, they also don't know that what they believe they want isn't truly what they want until it's too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 07:18 AM
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English is my 3rd language, but I can still pick up on subtle online trolling and differentiate between males and females pretending to be males behind any written text, so I would expect natives to pick up on it much quicker.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 07:03 AM
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It depends on the criteria used to vet. By induction, it's more likely for a woman to use the wrong criteria than to use the right one when vetting a man if she only relies on her own opinion or the opinion of the collective of other women. For example, it's common for women to believe that any man that can make them feel a spark is automatically a good option, when statistically speaking, it's more likely he's not than he is. If the women however are given the criteria by men or some sort of re…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 11:43 PM
1

What does this prove anyway? Ofc some redditors in here will have 6 packs. In the US, roughly 1% of men have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 08:38 AM
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It depends on who's asking, if it's a minority of 8+/10 women, then no. If it's however most women, then yes it's too much, not just because they don't deserve such men, but also there aren't enough of these men for all of them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:53 AM
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It could be the case for some of them, what matters is that we have a lead on something that works, the exact immediate cause doesn't matter practically speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:19 AM
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Science can't and won't cover every single detail, a lot of our info come from immediate experience which science may or may not have covered yet, let alone explain. By induction, for most people who are happily married for decades, the women in such marriages were either virgin or had low body count prior to getting married, that's my evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 01:50 AM
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It's okay to delude yourself if it makes you feel better I guess. My comment is intended primarily for men, and maybe a small portion of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 01:35 AM
2

If the man shows it too early or too often, then it will have the opposite effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 01:10 AM
-1

Keep on dreaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 12:47 AM
1

With make up? Ofc, without any cosmetics? Not really since physical beauty, like height, is normally distributed among people. It looks as if women are better looking because they care more about how they look, just like how men care more about making money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 12:29 AM
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Approaching men signals high testosterone, and men naturally look for women with low testosterone just like how women naturally look for men with low estrogen.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 11:02 PM
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It'll always come down to men who are physically AND economically AND mentally attractive AND willing to commit to them only. Such men don't exist, except in a woman's imagination ofc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 10:53 PM
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The number of previous partners does have an impact on her ability to pair bond with her future partners because as the number increases, the chances of finding a man who can outdo all of the previous partners in all aspects decreases exponentially. Women are wired to look for weaknesses in men they pair up with to use it for manipulation as well as self-defense, and if a woman is given a lot of data from previous partners to compare with, you can bet your ass she will find something to be turne…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 09:58 PM
1

The message from a good looking tall guy who's fun, well off and doesn't look like a catfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 11:58 PM
1

You're trying to find a pattern in random data, women feel turned off for reasons that have nothing to do with men, and men shouldn't bother analyzing this because a. they can still control the end outcomes, b. if they can't, then it's not something they can fix anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 11:46 PM
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Because as they get older, they put less emphasis on beauty and more emphasis on feminine nurturing nature. This is similar to how women in their 20's focus on looks>money in men they go out with, then switch to money>looks in their 30's or older. I'm fine with what women require in men because nature has made them that way for a reason. What I'm not fine with however is what has happened in the past 60 years of women empowerment, it made women become out of touch with reality. Instead of settli…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 04:05 AM
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Ofc not all, but we can still make valid generalizations if they apply to the majority of men. And no, not just mine, it's what most men require for commitment. You can test it out yourself, go ask a group of random men and see if most of them value the same thing or not, you may need to group them by age though. Women commit to men who are superior to them as long as they maintain their superiority. By superiority, I mean in terms of all or some of the following: masculinity, finances, social s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 02:48 AM
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Up to your imagination. Everything affects everything, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 02:31 AM
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If you're not fucking her, then you're her gf, simple as that. The stories you hear about transitioning from being friends to lovers are rare, and it's not really an effective way of starting a relationship because it takes a long time with a low chance of success. The reason why you hear often about this is mainly because women themselves, they (((SAY))) they want it this way, I mean become friends first then date, but it rarely happens this way, except for virgin women which is a small subset …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 02:23 AM
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Like I said, the decision has to do with the man himself as well as the woman, since the former has no use for you I'll explain the latter. Most men go for sex only by default, however, if the woman has what makes her a good wife/mother, only then the man will consider her for marriage. What exactly makes a woman worthy of commitment for men? Mainly, youth, low body count, feminine nurturing nature and sufficient beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 02:08 AM
1

In relationships with women? Mostly sex and sometimes making a family, the woman in question is a factor in deciding whether they go primarily for the former or the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 01:30 AM
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If there's something a lot of men do, then it's because it works. Men aren't on PMS half the time like women, they do things with a specific goal to achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 01:15 AM
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It wouldn't add much to you because you'll still fall for it irrespective of whether you know about it or not. This may sound weird, but most women have this kind of existence where they just respond to things happening to them as if they lack agency, I mean their own actions aren't really derived from their own will and intention, but from some sort of external agent leading them to act in a certain way. This is not the case for men, men do act by their own will and for a specific purpose in mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 12:58 AM
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It must have been written by a woman because it's only women who give such terrible dating advice. Low effort dates are best for both men looking for hook ups as well as men looking for LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 12:48 AM
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I don't know why you guys believe fucking supermodels is some sort of heaven, it's body-assisted masturbation with a lot of unnecessary BS. Hot or not, your body still produces the same neurochemicals with the same amount. Hell, drugs get you far more euphoric if that's your goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 09:35 PM
1

Get someone who is lower than your SMV by at least 2 or 3 points, this is your best long-term strategy as a betabux.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 09:28 PM
0

I would tell them to keep their body count under 3, if this is not possible then I'm afraid there isn't much to tell. For men, avoid women with body count higher than 2 like the plague, getting fucked by multiple men fucks up women and you can't fix her, you can only enjoy her body temporarily. Also, avoid older women. There's this Arabic saying that goes like "if it were any good, the birds wouldn't have left it," which is said for uneaten food left on ground by birds, and the same idea applies…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:59 PM
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Let's start from nature because nature does nothing uselessly. Nature has made human males with certain features to be better at certain functions, and the same goes for human females. Now, humans do not operate only within the realm of biology, there's also the social realm as well. Societies have made sure for a long time to enforce what nature has chosen for each sex, namely the traditional gender roles, however, it's only in the last 60 years or so people have started rebelling against this …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:38 PM
1

Redpill covers a lot of stuff and like any system of thoughts, some of it will be true, otherwise it wouldn't attract people in the first place, some will be common sense and some will be incorrect. Let me give an example, redpillers claim that all women are whores, this could be interpreted as literally all women are whores which is clearly false, or all women are capable of becoming whores which is also false, but this interpretation is less false than the previous one. In reality, most women …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 11:26 AM
1

Physical beauty isn't subjective, some people argue for that because they confuse the effect some non-beautiful things have on our souls for the effect of beautiful things. This is similar to confusing a lie for a truth just because it feels true, why would it feel true though? Because it has a similarity to truths in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 10:21 AM
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The problem is that all women care about looks, money and status, the real difference is whether these are sufficient for her or not, so it's inevitable that you'll attract unwanted women in the process of trying to attract the wanted ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 09:06 AM
1

Most women aren't rational, the ones I find in redpill content seem a bit more rational compared to the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:26 AM
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This is the same as asking why do women chase after men who don't want to commit instead of men who want to? Women simply follow what they feel, what follows their own actions is secondary to what's felt. It's rare to find a woman capable of seeing the cause and effect behind her own actions, that's the equivalent of finding a man in touch with his own feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:15 AM
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You're making it more complex, not simpler. It's easier to think about it in terms of the final cause, is it primarily pleasure or primarily utility? For the 1st one, focus will be on looks and the dark triad traits, for the 2nd one however focus will be on money and masculine protective traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:46 PM
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Because women don't really care about being in touch with reality, only men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:50 AM
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The no.1 factor causing the increased divorce rate is allowing women to get a divorce on a whim. Men normally won't go for a divorce unless the benefits outweigh the risks, women on the other hand find the slightest human suffering sufficient to ask for a divorce. It could be as random as viewing social media and finding someone she knows living a better life than hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:43 AM
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Some of what they tell women is actually a good advice, like not giving up sex without commitment, but that doesn't mean it doesn't come with bad advice as well. My main criticism is that they teach women to go against their nature and become more masculine, and Just like how a man acting feminine makes his dating life infinitely worse, the same goes for a woman acting masculine in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:45 PM
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Women explain things to themselves in a way that makes sense to them, and since they mostly do things based on their own feelings, they project that into men thinking that men too do things based on what they feel. Men project their rationale into women as well as they often explain what women do based on power or monetary benefits even though women just follow what they feel. In other words, men view their feelings in terms of reasons, women view their reasons in terms of feelings, and both pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 07:26 PM
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Fare enough. Here's my take which maybe a bit irrelevant, if women are fully justified to "self-preserve", which implies acting hypergamous, with no moral restrictions at all, then men too are fully justified to pump and dump them with no moral restrictions either. As you can see, the consequence of freeing women from any moral agency behind their hypergamous acts is that we end up becoming something worse than animals, because most higher animals in nature use sex productively to form stable fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 07:29 PM
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He shouldn't have told her he was a virgin, now there's a high chance he won't keep her for too long. Looks can get you pussy, but you need more than looks to keep it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 07:21 PM
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For all women of all ages, physical looks is the no. 1 factor in terms of establishing a relationship, this is a fact and there is no point trying to disprove it. However, each age group has other aspects, along with looks, that they tend to prefer, for example pre-20 females seem to be attracted to feminine boys, 20-something females favor muscular looking men, then you have 30+ females prefer high status rich men. These are the general trends that do not take into account personal peculiaritie…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 07:01 PM
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Redpill has some truths known for ages, but it also contains a lot of BS too. It attracts women haters, improvement slaves and some dumb men who can't seem to understand the existence of natural differences across men or men and women. For example, you can't become "alpha", these men represent only like 5~10% of all men, you can only acquire alpha-like traits, but you will never turn into an alpha if you're not born with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 06:36 PM
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No point in asking women what they consider as a successful marriage, because they don't really know what they want, let alone knowing what's best for them in the long run. Most women, when left to their own devices, would want to become harems for chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 06:26 PM
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Westerns never cease to surprise me with their messed up culture, why would you call biological differences sexist? Women naturally have lower libido, lower drive to acquire resources, inferior physical and spatial abilities, etc, these are real differences that have nothing to do with societies, yet, you still call pointing these out sexist as if being sexist implies being immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 06:17 PM
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You have to break it down by age, the further they are from the wall, the less likely they're celibate, and the further they get past the wall, the more likely they're celibate. The reason behind this is that before hitting the wall, they can attract more men, have higher libido and they prioritize money and settling less, after the wall however it's the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 06:06 PM
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Males try to get sex from the females with as little resources as possible, and the females try to get resources from the males with as little sex as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 09:28 PM
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I would tell them to keep trying, if hope is lost, then there will be no change.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 04:42 PM
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That's what all men in the manosphere talk about, I'll summarize it in three points: 1. Quit bad habits (porn, drinking, junk food, etc), 2. Hit the gym or pick up a martial art, 3. Learn and work on ways to improve your income. The most important thing about this is that you do it for yourself, not for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 04:07 PM
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Despite all of this, you have stuff other men would kill for, like height, face or race. You can still turn your life around, this is a decision only you can take.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:40 PM
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No you're right, it's just women don't understand what women do as a collective; they reward men who have sex with them asap and punish those who wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:29 PM
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The explanation is simple, women don't compare men relative to the average, they compare them relative to the best due to hypergamy, that's why they can't objectively rank men in terms of looks, height or finances. A man ranked as a 5 out of 10 by women means he's actually a 7, although he appears as a 5 relative to the 9's and 10's.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:49 PM
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For men, unless the woman is virgin, there's no reason to wait. For women, unless she's looking for sex only, there's no reason to have sex right away. This is from a utilitarian perspective, from an ethical one, I would argue that sex without the intention of marriage is like testing a car without the intention of buying, both are immoral actions EVEN if the other party has given consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:34 PM
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Is being attractive sufficient to get women to have sex with you? ABSOLUTELY. Is it however sufficient to get women to love you? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Good looks is a resource just like money, it makes certain aspects of your life easier, but that doesn't mean you're doomed with little of it. Is there any problem in life money can't solve? You bet there is, it's just not being rich that makes you believe money can solve everything, but once you get there, you start seeing the other side of the coin, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 01:37 AM
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If these men can have better options than OP's friends with ease, then they're clearly out of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 08:30 PM
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A few reasons: a. they're going for men out of their league, b. they're showing signs of not being marriageable or showing signs of being easy to bed, c. they're using a medium in which most men only want sex, d. they erroneously assume that it's not the norm that men only want sex from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:12 PM
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A real solution can be found in the Sharia; it solves most of the legal, economical, social and ethical issues surrounding the current imbalanced situation with dating and marriage. It's just most Westerns have no clue what Sharia is all about other than stoning and honor killing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 06:43 PM
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Webpage =/= newspaper
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 03:53 PM
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Dude read what I just wrote ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 02:45 PM
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"Generalize" includes two senses, one is ALL the other is MOST, this is logic 101. Stop spreading stupid BS about a generalization being false. If a statement fits most of something, then it's a valid generalization logically speaking. The phrase "per se" means exactly this, I mean most or all of something, the other phrase is "per accidens", which is translates into neither all nor most of something.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 02:05 PM
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Some of them, sure, some other can become husbands, not the ideal husband though, because the dark triad comes in different shades. The ideal husband from a woman's pov is someone with a mix of traits from both alpha's and beta's, like an alpha-ized beta or a beta-ized alpha if it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 01:46 PM
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I agree. Speaking of which, a lot of women call out men for sleeping around while wanting to commit to women who don't sleep around, and they're right in a way. It's either you allow fornication with all of its negatives like having a lot of women become unmarriageable, or you don't allow it to increase the likelihood of finding marriageable women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 01:33 PM
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Women's preference to men with the dark triad personality is real, however, there's a misconception here, just because these men turn them on sexually doesn't mean they prefer to have them as husbands. Men have two modes of going about gratifying their sexual needs, one is short term which literally requires nothing but a functional vagina, the other is a long term one that has a set of strict requirements like being virgin/having low body count, agreeable, young to name a few. In the same token…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 01:15 PM
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Two types: those who're chased by a lot of women and those who are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 12:16 AM
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Women favoring richer men has nothing to do with culture, it's biological. This is to ensure having enough resources for their offspring. If a woman tells you that money is important, believe her, if she says otherwise, then she's just being nice. One exception that would make a woman ignore your financial status is if you're good looking and for short term fun only, this is for older women, for younger ones, money isn't really important until they consider settling. Sometimes women have relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:49 PM
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I would say 80~90%. Why the variation? Because some cultures encourage bad habits in women and discourage the good ones, while some other cultures do the opposite. By definition, AWALT is a woman who is not a NAWALT, what do NAWALTs look like? What most men want in a wife. What do men want in a wife? The kind of woman who's feminine, submissive and non-promiscuous that stays with you when you lose your job. This sub r/RedPillWomen has a lot of NAWALTs btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 10:59 PM
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Look for traits women lack. What do women lack? Exactly. Humor, masculinity, rationality, creativity, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 10:45 PM
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If most of x favor y, then it's not just a personal preference, it's biological. For example, most women favor tall men over short ones, and most men favor young women over older ones. The same can be said for races; whites are preferred over blacks worldwide and it's not just a personal preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 10:10 PM
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So it's all down to money for sex after all, 2021 or 9000, instincts prevail.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 10:05 PM
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Nature has made males crave sex far more than the females in order to help the females attract and keep the males, yet, the females still managed to fuck it up somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 09:56 PM
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They ask men to respect them, but they chase after men who disrespect them, which is fine by me insofar they don't openly lie to men about it. Men need to be raised to put their women in their place and never hold back, it's only when men hold back their women start losing attraction and look for it from other "controlling" men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 09:34 PM
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Persistent direct or indirect demands to get the other party to do something they're refusing or unwilling to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 09:14 PM
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You're not asking BP men, you're asking BP who have some exposure to RP, otherwise they wouldn't be here in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 09:11 PM
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The reason is simple, women prefer to stay single than date down. Dating down in a woman's mind includes men who are equal to her, men who are below her, as well as men whom she believes are below her even if they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 08:22 PM
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It's not as simple as just dating down, women themselves have their hypergamy put on steroids. Regular 4's and 5's act as 8's and 9's. Also, the real issue for most men isn't really about dating, it's about marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 07:53 PM
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Being oblivious to hints isn't rejection, it's however a rejection in a woman's mind. Besides, most of the hints women drop are aimed towards the same minority of men all women aim for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 07:44 PM
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Banned from RPW, dating and datingoverthirty even though I've tried my best to post PC comments without any RP vocabs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 07:23 PM
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Males are naturally polygamous, that's why Muslims allow having multiple wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 06:59 PM
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It depends on your primary goal. Is it sex? then try to appeal to those whom you can easily get sex from. The same can be said for other goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 06:55 PM
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Women will bring up all sorts of counterexamples to convince you about showing weakness to your woman, but that doesn't mean that you should. When you ask a woman what she thinks about crying, it's as if you're asking her if she's okay with the way she is, she'll do her best to defend those who cry because that's what she, and the children she cares for, do regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 06:40 PM
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What about women crying and being vulnerable? They do it all the time and there's nothing wrong with that. Actually this is why they insist that men should cry and be vulnerable, as if it's leads to no negative consequences like when they themselves do it. Women have all sorts of false projections that lead to disasters when applied.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 06:29 PM
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Of course this advice pertains to both men and women, but there is a major difference that justifies telling men in particular to ignore what women say: men don't lie while being ignorant of their own lying, women on the other hand breathe lies without knowing it. This causes far more men to fall for women's lies compared to women falling for men's lies. Also, men lying to women can be used for good outcomes, but the opposite (women lying to men) mostly leads to bad outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 06:10 PM
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Ideal dating in a liberal-secular environment? Impossible. The closest you can get to ideal dating is when you have a society that's governed by sharia laws or something similar where gender roles are maintained, hypergamy is kept under control and fornication is prohibited.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 05:58 PM
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It's the same, it seems that it's not because that's the nature of being on a forum that's concentrated with some topics and some people in particular. You get the impression that all women are bad in here even though it's not true. I would argue that there are good reasons why men in here believe that, when all of your experiences point to that direction and you get other men sharing the same conclusion, it makes sense to believe that it represents reality. Good women are quickly taken early on…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:49 PM
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The moment you assume that females = males, you'll fall into all sorts of wrong conclusions about dating. High body count affects both genders differently. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:29 PM
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There is no real utility in asking women these questions, everybody knows it's mostly about your looks >> money >> frame, the rest doesn't matter as much. Do pheromones make a difference? They do. Should you bother with them? Not really. Pay close attention to how women answer in the comments, it's either they don't know the exact causes or they mistaken accidental factors with the real ones. From their perspective, they only view it in terms of what's felt and not what causes x or y feelings. D…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:25 PM
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The existence of married women who are the breadwinners doesn't contradict the claim of making more money as a woman is correlated with higher divorce risk. Females are biologically wired to take resources from males to spend it on themselves and their offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:17 PM
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Getting a loser woman to date isn't too difficult for most men, it's the young ones with above average looks that's out of option for most men. Also, maintaining relationships/marriages in the long run is far more difficult than starting them even for top tier men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 11:48 PM
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Let me put it in simple terms: a. no woman is special, b. the time and effort you put to get out of a friendzone is better invested in bedding other women, c. only women can be friends with other women, d. men shouldn't befriend women anyway; their friendship adds nothing of value for you and it'll affect you negatively in some ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 11:25 PM
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Humans have evolved to be efficient, so instead of expending too much energy trying to figure out patterns around them, they just copy others who seem to be seeing the patterns. In a sexual setting for females, they unconsciously feel attracted to males whom other females seem to be attracted to. Look up the wedding ring effect for more info.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 09:51 PM
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Instead of admitting that the game is rigged to work towards some sort of solution, what do you do? Ofc blame it all on men and shame them for not being enough, even if "enough" is no longer enough. People seem to forget that there used to be a time when having a gf required asking a few girls out on a date and having a wife required having a job. Now? You have to overwork yourself day in day out at home, school and work throughout your life and maybe, just maybe, you'll get to keep your overwei…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 08:23 PM
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I'm amazed at your ability to write walls of texts with nothing substantial. It's like hearing women talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:56 PM
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The only exception is virgin women, other than that, never allow women to make you wait for sex, it'll only get worse from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:17 PM
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We have statistics, it's too common and it gets more common with age, the average iirc was third of all marriages have dead bedroom. Women aren't wired to crave sex like men do, you have to offer your husband duty sex occasionally or simply don't get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:07 PM
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This mentality of equating duty sex with marital rape harms women more than it benefits them; it forces men to use women temporarily for sex and not get into marriage because they know for a fact sex will eventually disappear and they won't be able to do anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 06:56 PM
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For men, hit the gym, make more $$$, learn game and always take charge. For women, well it doesn't matter because women are like the water that takes the shape of its container, which is the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 06:45 PM
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All social sciences rely on vast generalizations. Women "tend" to chase after chads, and that's why they "tend" to have more experiences with manipulative men because that's the kind of men they keep choosing. Why they keep choosing these men? Because they blindly follow what they feel, like little children who prefer candies over veggie's even if it's unhealthy. Women have more in common with children than men to take better care of them. What do women have in common with children? Being natura…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:50 AM
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Sex and offspring for provision and protection. It has always been like this and it will continue to be this way because biological instincts never change.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:44 AM
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Hypergamy can be put on a leash in a society that enforces gender roles and conservative values.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:41 AM
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All women are gold diggers, just a difference of degree. Females are hard wired to take and never give except for their offspring. They have to be brainwashed with cultural values in order to be capable of giving to their men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:20 AM
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Good for you. You're the mythical 0.01% men look for but can never find.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:52 AM
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Women only lower their standards when they're forced to. So either what you claim is BS or you're forced to be this unselective, pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:44 AM
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It's rarely the case they give bad advice intentionally, I would argue that women are biologically wired to give bad dating advice, why? To exclude non-alpha men as well as kill the female competition for the alpha's, that's why they give men the kind of advice that's good for women, and they give women the kind of advice that's good for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:24 AM
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Alright let me rephrase the question, would you describe yourself as being unassertive?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:11 AM
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Possibly true? It's DEFINITELY true. Women are wired to be selective in dating, it's just so many things have changed that have caused this natural selectivity to get on steroids. Nowadays, normal men can never be enough to attract and keep most women, even though they used to be more than enough in the 80's or earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:04 AM
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You forgot the rich, handsome and masculine part.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:58 AM
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The line is clear, the "really liking" is preserved for top tier men, the rest get different shades of just liking them, although it may not look like this because women are good at pretending to like about everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:52 AM
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Women enhance their looks only to attract better mates, that's why when their men try to looksmax, it signals to them that they intend to replace them with better looking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:40 AM
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It's weird how women seem so familiar, yet so oblivious to how other women feel. Of course she's acting happy, and ofc she wants the best of the best of men in terms of financial, social AND sexual traits. It's just a matter of whether she can get such men or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:25 AM
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I disagree, women ARE attracted to men with the dark triad personality, it's just not for LTRs, but rather for short term fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:18 AM
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It means they're naturally good at deluding themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:13 AM
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Would you describe yourself as being feminine? I'm just wondering if masculine women tend to be attracted to feminine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:11 AM
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To put it simply, the men they want don't want them and they (the women) don't want the men who want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:45 AM
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Males have two sexual strategies, one for short term flings and the other for LTRs. The former requires almost nothing other than being DTF with no STDs, while the latter requires a good balance of looks, femininity and chastity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:39 AM
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Dump him and he might become the kind of man you want.
/r/RedPillWomen26/10/21 12:45 PM
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A little bit off-topic, MOD PLEASE DON'T DELETE IT'S STILL RELEVANT. Women are quite oblivious to the fact that human traits don't exist in a vacuum. It's common to hear a woman wishing her bf/husband was more of this or that, while not realizing that if that was the case, then she would still have the same wish, but with respect to other traits her bf/husband currently has. It's rarely the case that a woman is 100% satisfied with a man, this requires a huge difference in terms of looks, wealth,…
/r/RedPillWomen26/10/21 08:29 AM
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Unpopular opinion: If the wife's consent is required for her husband to have sex with her, then the husband's consent should be required for his wife to use his resources. And if the husband is denied access to sex with his wife after divorce, then the wife should be denied access to her husband's resources after divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 10:32 AM
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Men act rationally in almost everything except their relationships with women, women are the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:36 AM
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Introverted women as they're more likely to be feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 06:41 AM
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Does he get sex when he wants it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 12:40 AM
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A man doing exactly what his woman wants isn't hot either. Besides, it's all imagined associations that aren't necessarily true. Why is playing video games in particular viewed negatively? Because women tend to associate it with non-masculine losers, and the same applies to you with the abstract hobbies.
/r/RedPillWomen10/10/21 08:25 PM
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You must be fun to talk with. /sarcasm If my wife has a problem with me reading or coding stuff, then I'm better off without her.
/r/RedPillWomen10/10/21 07:58 PM
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You're projecting what you want in men into men. Men don't care about your financial status, what they care about are your looks, femininity and chastity.
/r/RedPillWomen10/10/21 06:08 PM
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It depends on whether you're going for a chad or an average joe, for the former, yes it's unrealistic, unless you live in a country where fornication isn't accepted nor common. The reason why it's unrealistic is because the very traits you prefer in a man are the same exact traits other women also prefer, which makes it pretty easy for such a man to have all sorts of relationships with other women as they'll be throwing themselves at him, and no man can say no to an easy lay unless he's religiou…
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/21 09:10 PM
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