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The reason they don’t do as much parenting as women is because they work longer hours, to be able to support the mother, so that she can stay home and parent without financial difficulty. Also imagine if someone asked this about breadwinner mothers; they’d be crucified on the spot.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/07/26 02:21 PM
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This is a sign things are starting to change; slowly but surely. The fact that it was turned into a legal strategy is a huge step, and we're seeing more and more charities for men emerge.
/r/MensRights26/07/26 10:47 PM
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...until we can get to the point of in-person collective organization Well we've already had international conferences about men's rights in places like the USA or the UK; the ones held by AVfM. So maybe that could be a starting point for more in-person meetups. Like, the reason you see basic concepts explained repeatedly over posts, is because we don’t even have higher lever terms to discuss complex issues as feminists do (ie. patriarchy, mansplaining, glass ceiling, etc), I'd say the reason is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 02:36 AM
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Misandrists are “loving, caring, empathetic” until someone has the wrong genitals or the wrong opinion… then it goes out the window. It’s just a form of ego-boosting for them, not truth.
/r/EverydayMisandry23/07/26 12:27 PM
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I wish misandrists a bad month too, every month - glad someone’s saying it outside of MR spaces as well
/r/EverydayMisandry22/07/26 12:17 PM
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I never understood why some people get so angry over a woman proposing to a man? Do they consider it demeaning to a woman? Ironic considering men are literally expected to get down on their knees to propose, yet society deems that romantic instead.
/r/EverydayMisandry16/07/26 03:24 AM
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That’s ok, don’t worry. I’ll make sure to quote you if I ever use it then lol
/r/EverydayMisandry10/07/26 09:30 PM
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Nice. Where is it from?
/r/EverydayMisandry08/07/26 05:05 PM
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Even more reason to ban them, in case this gets too widespread. If it said anything remotely similar about women reactions from people around her would have been way worse. I wonder - did anyone say anything to her? Or did she get any negative reactions?
/r/EverydayMisandry08/07/26 04:17 PM
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I’m sorry, I thought this was whataboutism? I thought this was “derailing the conversation”? Or is that only applicable when it’s about women’s problems?
/r/EverydayMisandry08/07/26 02:31 PM
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Abuse against men seems systemic and even normalised at times. I’m really sorry for what happened to you :(
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/26 05:05 PM
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“Men have the lions share of rights across the world” Not really. In most places, they don’t have the same bodily autonomy as women do - MGM is legal whilst FGM is not, women more or less have some reproductive rights but men don’t have any. They don’t have the same parental rights as women, since women have automatic parental status but men often depend on the woman putting them on the birth certificate, and often have less of a right to things like parental leave. In some countries, like Germa…
/r/MensRights19/06/26 10:52 AM
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I don’t know if this is gonna be of any comfort to you from a stranger online, but there are people out there who care. Society as a whole doesn’t see these things yet and doesn’t care enough about men, you’re right. But that doesn’t mean it’s going to be this way forever, slowly there’s more talk about these things and more charities for men struggling with abuse. It’s slow for sure, but it’s happening. In the meantime there are small communities like these where people do care, so you’re not a…
/r/MensRights19/06/26 12:51 AM
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Not a guy, but misandry is normalized in everyday life in my experience. All the female friend groups I’ve been in have had some level of misandry within them; they’d say men are stupider than women, they’d make jokes about hitting men, they’d say they hate men, that the world would be better off without men etc - all things that they’d immediately get offended at if spoken about women. One time had a girl laugh about a guy who had his testicles chopped off by his girlfriend, she justified it wi…
/r/EverydayMisandry18/06/26 04:40 PM
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Yeah in terms of family contexts as a whole society seems to position women as “the centre”. Relationship wise, the woman is framed as the receiver whilst the man is framed as the giver, so men are expected to carry all the romantic effort towards keeping the relationship alive - whilst women are positioned as the evaluators of men’s efforts. We have all sorts of phrases like “happy wife happy life”, “if mama ain’t happy ain’t nobody happy”, “gotta check in with the boss” etc that socially enfor…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/26 12:05 PM
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Yeah, there’s definitely hope. It’s nowhere near where it should be yet but things are slowly changing. There seems to be more charities for men now than there were 10+ years ago. There’s slowly more government initiatives, like in the UK there’s a men’s health initiative that was launched a few years ago. And currently in parliament there’s a bill being processed about violence towards men. In the UK there was a new book publisher established called Conduit Books which was founded due to the la…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/26 09:18 AM
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“I think men are just incapable of empathy and loving the way women are” “It’s just different the way they love” “…it will just never be the same as it is for us” Sure, that’s why it’s men doing most of the romantic labor in relationships like initiating dates, giving gifts, giving affection, giving emotional support, apologising in arguments etc. And that’s why millions of men across the world work in difficult jobs with bad conditions like mining, construction, garbage disposal, warehousing, o…
/r/EverydayMisandry13/06/26 12:08 PM
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It’s still dominant in mainstream media, education, institutions etc. But among people themselves, yeah I’ve noticed more people are becoming tired of it. Especially among men. I think it’s inevitable that there will be larger backlash against it eventually, most men seem to criticise it, but it will take some time before it’s less stigmatised to disagree with it cause for now it’s still the “socially acceptable” view.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/26 11:23 PM
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They don’t need them in relationships but we still need them to live, both men and women. Most blue collar jobs we rely on for survival are done by men, without them people wouldn’t live well in society. The reason people don’t like the title is because vice versa said about women would cause huge backlash, so people are reacting to a double standard, just as feminists would instantly dismiss a title that said “we don’t need women” because it sounds hateful. And like someone else said, it’s the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 04:58 PM
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Wow, most of these are already said to men. Especially the "what did you do to her" line, that's said a lot more to male victims than to female victims. Way to punch down at a group that's already low on the social ladder - male survivors of abuse. And these same people claim they only "punch up".
/r/EverydayMisandry30/08/25 09:11 PM
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I'm a woman myself and I don't agree with phrases like this so I don't think it's necessarily a gendered thing. I'm not trying to attack anyone btw, that wasn't my intention, I apologise if it came across that way - just trying to point out a flaw in this line of thought. I just don't think we should normalize phrases like "X group sucks". We wouldn't accept someone saying "women suck" so we shouldn't accept someone saying "men suck", or any other group of people. If we allow that to happen it w…
/r/EverydayMisandry01/07/25 04:01 PM
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Men also face disadvantages due to their sex and women also have privileges, yet we don't excuse statements like "women suck" just because some women are bad people to men. Facing disadvantages doesn't give someone an excuse to spout sexism, male or female.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/06/25 12:39 PM
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Calling out bigotry is something only incels and misogynists do? I guess you learn something new everyday.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/04/25 09:21 AM
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I wouldn't say so. Heterophobia isn't systemic or widespread like how homophobia is so it's hard to say how it typically manifests or whether it affects men or women more. The few times I have witnessed heterophobic comments were always in queer spaces and a lot of them were about straight, cisgender men. So I wouldn't necessarily say it affects straight women more - in queer spaces they typically like to hate on straight men.
/r/EverydayMisandry19/04/25 01:15 PM
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I think it's more complicated than they claim. Yeah the whole thing with the lesbian bars is true, there's more need for them. I don't know if I would say that gay men receive more representation though. Most of the time when I turn on the TV randomly if I come across gay characters in shows oftentimes I see either equal amounts of gay male characters and lesbian characters, or more lesbian characters. And as for hearing more about gay men's problems that's just outright false. I'd argue we hear…
/r/EverydayMisandry16/04/25 11:56 AM
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The scary thing is that although I believe the men's rights movement is doing an incredible job at countering the narrative, I'm not yet convinced that the ship has started to slow or turn. The movement needs more people and more influence because right now it's not having enough of an impact. More men need to be made aware and start speaking up.
/r/EverydayMisandry15/04/25 10:53 AM
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I’m wondering if the misandry people on this forum keep referring to is from ONLINE feminists mostly? It's more frequent from online feminists because the internet allows for anonymity so people can say whatever they want without worrying about what others think. But it's not just from online feminists. The worst, systemic forms of misandry come from real life feminists. Feminists in real life have shut down attempts to make men's domestic violence shelters before and keep legal discrimination l…
/r/MensRights14/04/25 08:24 PM
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I mean, if we're going to nit pick too, then you could argue the Minecraft movie was actually sexist against men because it portrayed Garrett and Steve as fools who only care about having a testosterone contest with each other, especially Garrett. And it played into stereotypes by having the male characters be the stupid comedy relief. So you could say it goes both ways.
/r/MensRights14/04/25 01:52 PM
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There is no law forbidding a man to get any kind of medical treatment. No but there's no law allowing a man to have reproductive rights like women sometimes do either. And men don't have much bodily autonomy either considering that they can be mutilated at birth legally. But that being said I agree we still need feminism. Lots of people here will say otherwise because of what modern feminism has become, but I agree that there's still lots of things we still need feminism to fix - ESPECIALLY inte…
/r/MensRights14/04/25 01:40 PM
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Comparing people to animals is ALWAYS a form of prejudice, no matter how many excuses they want to use. The "man Vs bear" thing is just like the "Jew Vs poisonous mushroom" comparison that the Nazis would make, or the "Syrian refugee versus poisonous skittle" comparison that Trump made. Except it's the only type of dehumanizing propaganda that's allowed, because men are the current scapegoats of society just like how different groups of people were before them.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/04/25 06:30 AM
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Yes, but it's not just social media. It's all media in general. Movies, TV shows, books, news etc. Young women today are basically being indoctrinated into hating men. Yet the system is so rigged against men that the news, the government and people in general only worry about online spaces like the manosphere instead of tackling the overt misandry that permeates everyday life and all aspects of media. I wonder what's going to happen in 10-20 years time with the current man-hate and with men marr…
/r/EverydayMisandry11/04/25 06:25 AM
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I hate how normalized it is genuinely. Any verbal or physical abuse against men is handwaved away with "he did something to deserve it", as if men are children who earn "discipline" or something. And how sexual abuse is handled is equally gross, men are basically treated as ungrateful or weird if they don't like their bodies being used without permission. I heard it's apparently even worse for married men because it's considered the man's duty to be up for it all the time. It just all paints suc…
/r/EverydayMisandry10/04/25 08:37 PM
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In fact literally the last time I ever saw that type of language used to describe a female partner was from an old ad/magazine I found online FROM THE 1950S. Modern society talks about men like how society used to talk about women in the 1950s!
/r/EverydayMisandry10/04/25 08:23 PM
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I don't blame you. Nobody likes to be compared to an animal, and the fact this type of language is so normalized really says something about how our society sees men.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/04/25 08:20 PM
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Literally a prime example of normalized abuse of men: women comparing men to dogs to be "trained". In action right here. I have always found that disturbing and gross.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/04/25 07:59 PM
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The second one doesn't even make any sense at all. The only reason women can baby trap men is because men don't have reproductive rights like women do. These people are literally so unaware they have no idea what men's problems even are, yet they always love to pretend they're the expert. I've seen it multiple times - for some reason misandrists always seem so sure of themselves.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/04/25 05:48 AM
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"I know the only reason you care about others is because you want to get into their pants. But not everyone is always thinking about sex when they're standing up for someone or stating an opinion, so please don't project your problems onto me." "Please don't bring sex into this discussion. I can clearly tell you think about it a lot but just because you don't get any action doesn't mean you have to shout it from the rooftops in every unrelated discussion." Or some variation thereof. If they star…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/25 06:13 AM
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Because it's considered much much more socially acceptable unfortunately. Rarely does anyone call it out and men don't feel like they can say anything against it. Sad really
/r/EverydayMisandry12/03/25 11:18 PM
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I think one thing that would help is if people like us were organized Yeah absolutely there needs to be more mobilization. That's probably the thing most lacking right now - and that's what truly leads to change. Some of that involves social media awareness, sure. But it's much more than that, we need more awareness in society in general. Like making and joining IRL groups, going on TV/radio/podcasts to talk about it, talking to politicians or other people in powerful or influential positions et…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/25 07:15 AM
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I'm honestly dumbfounded by how people can claim misandry isn't systemic or doesn't exist in real life when you can literally go on Amazon or other sites and see products denigrating men endlessly - no backlash, no criticism, nothing. And even if there is criticism it doesn't get taken down. Some of these are so obviously derogatory they make me convinced the writers don't believe men are human beings with feelings. There's books like "boys are annoying, throw rocks at them", "how to train a man…
/r/EverydayMisandry11/03/25 05:09 PM
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"Can only relinquish paternal responsibility if he was sexually assaulted by the mom" Wow, he can actually relinquish paternal responsibility in the first place? That's the one thing actually improved from real life. Which speaks VOLUMES. The women who think like this are so detached from what it's actually like for men that they forget men don't even have reproductive rights in the first place, they just assume they do because women do
/r/EverydayMisandry22/02/25 02:39 PM
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One thing I don't see mentioned often is the way these types of questions are phrased. I don't know if that was acknowledged in the gender neutral questions, most likely not, but it's definitely something worth talking about to get men to be honest about their experiences. At least from personal experience IRL and from men's anecdotes I've read online, men and women tend to respond differently to SA questions depending on the phrasing. For example if you ask: Have you ever been sexually harassed…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/25 10:01 PM
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I made a blog for a day before deleting it because I didn't want my name potentially engorged in the controversy of Men's Civil Rights. You could make a blog using a fake username or a pen name, lots of people do that if the subject is controversial or they don't want to be associated with it in real life.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/25 05:25 PM
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I think we need to start spreading awareness across more of the internet though. Right now it seems like subreddits like these and niche men's rights websites are the gathering hub for men's problems. We need to figure out a way to get them to the attention of the average man. For example I think what thetinmen does is effective but he needs way more viewers to actually be influential and make a difference.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/25 05:20 PM
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Not going to happen, world would fall apart. Sometimes you need disruption to cause change though. Maybe it wouldn't happen completely but something needs to occur so that people wake up.
/r/EverydayMisandry02/02/25 09:42 AM
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Ah yes; suicide... Or just opting out of the education system, or out of relationships.
/r/EverydayMisandry01/02/25 11:08 PM
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Men are just the current scapegoats of society, that's why misandry is so acceptable. Everything bad in the world is supposedly men's fault: murder, rape, sexism, gender roles etc. Even when you talk about the problems men face this happens: "SA against men isn't taken seriously enough!" "Well that's because other men downplay it!" "Men don't feel like they can open up!" "Well that's just because men promote toxic masculinity and repress themselves!" "Men are going through a loneliness epidemic!…
/r/EverydayMisandry01/02/25 11:13 AM
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I agree that in this scenario it's definitely the mother who's the most important, since she's the one giving birth. But there was no need for the hostility you received, that was uncalled for. Unfortunately that's one of the most common responses you get when trying to talk about men's side of things. People hear the word 'men' and instantly alarm bells go off and they see red. Not to mention the freedom people have to say anything they want on social media.
/r/EverydayMisandry01/02/25 10:48 AM
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It should pertain to any forced sexual interaction. Regardless of what was used. Exactly! I seriously have never seen what's so difficult about just re-defining it to 'non-consensual sex'. That is the definition that 99% of people go by in everyday discussion. It just makes everything so much more complicated to have to sort into different types and levels of sexual assault depending on the genitals of the people involved or the specific actions performed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/25 09:28 PM
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maybe karen straughan was right when she said she didnt think things would get any better. Societal change usually takes a long time. So it may seem unfixable now but maybe in a few decades things will change, we already have made some progress as there's increased public awareness for male loneliness, male suicide rates and to a lesser extent male DV victims (at least in comparison to before). Hopefully society will then eventually be open to hearing about more men's issues, and start solving t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/25 07:14 AM
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so I would imagine there's other problems present too. There's also the fact that in most countries 'rape' legally requires a penis to commit or the act of penetration. A woman enveloping a man's penis, for example, isn't legally considered rape - so even if it is reported it may not be recorded in rape/SA statistics alongside 'traditional' penetrative rape.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/25 04:07 PM
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I'm sorry :(
/r/EverydayMisandry27/01/25 04:31 PM
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Add to that how it's strangely socially acceptable for women to sexually harass men on top of that, to add insult to injury.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/01/25 07:39 PM
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Yeah misandry is way too normalized in general. It just seems like some gay women consider it a part of lesbian culture to talk down on men, because it's supposed to show they're gay or something. For example they'll say men are ugly and then justify that by saying it's not sexism but just them expressing their lack of attraction to men - thing is you can lack attraction to someone and not automatically find them ugly. There's a difference between genuinely finding someone's appearance repulsive…
/r/EverydayMisandry23/01/25 10:33 PM
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Yes it is. And it's ironic that Hollywood today considers itself so progressive but continues to perpetrate stereotypes like that. Even more unfortunate that some gay women don't seem to mind it at all and actually embrace it🤦‍♀️
/r/EverydayMisandry22/01/25 05:13 PM
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I'm lesbian and I absolutely HATE when gay women say things like this - sometimes it feels like they're even forcing it because they feel like they should be hateful towards men as lesbians, like they have to "prove" their homosexuality or something. Talk about fragility. Some people like to say that men only value women if they find them attractive and treat women they're not attracted to like crap. But I believe there's PLENTY of women who do the inverse too, as proved by the fact so many lesb…
/r/EverydayMisandry22/01/25 04:55 PM
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Male privilege exists because men hold the majority of power in society. Women don't have "female privilege" because women do not hold the power in our society. In fact, they are numerical majority with minority power. Women make up 51% of the population in our Western society and consistently vote more than men. So yes it may be majority male politicians but it is the people who select those men into power in the first place, and that is also the doing of women as well as men. Women have an ent…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/25 03:55 PM
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Just acknowledgement would be a huge step. Like shit, if they can acknowledge that it's messed up to view half the population as "the violent ones", and can do so without resorting to "It sucks that you are making me do this." That alone would be an enormous win. The bar is in hell.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/25 10:21 PM
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Males also do worse in (among other things) scholastic achievement, emotional literacy, alcoholism, substance abuse, circulatory disorders, diabetes, andlongevity. If men do worse than women in those areas then maybe we should help them reach parity with women like how we help women reach parity with men, but of course they never suggest that - they use every opportunity to degrade men.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/01/25 07:48 PM
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Just say you hate women/and who set that system up/why don't you go make your own movement/stop derailing the conversation = I have no valid points of my own and will resort to generic comebacks I have previously seen other people use to dismiss men's rights and issues.
/r/EverydayMisandry07/01/25 04:58 PM
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How do you think we can reach men on a mass scale? As in - the average man? How can we let them know about their issues and advocate to stop them? And there's already some men's organizations - how do you think we can increase membership?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/25 11:18 PM
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I'm not a feminist but unfortunately it seems like most feminists are only really aware of those issues you mentioned. Most feminists' understanding of men's issues is limited to "men can't cry" or "men can't be vulnerable" or "men can't be feminine", and yeah those are legitimate issues but they're not the most serious and they're surface issues, really. They're just results of deeper problems that feminists seem to not identify but MRAs do - like male disposability. And where feminists go wron…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/25 05:20 PM
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"woman adjacent" I've never seen it put into words so accurately before. Yeah "woman adjacent" definitely describes the type of people they like to "side" with. Except when a "woman adjacent" person disagrees with them on something or stands up against their misandry - then suddenly they're "just like a straight/cis man" and suddenly they're the enemy too. The modern LGBTQ community just hates masculinity and people who identify with it or who defend it - probably why, at least from what I've se…
/r/EverydayMisandry04/01/25 12:06 AM
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when/if you get into a bad situation with a woman, be it sexually or emotionally, it can leave so vulnerable that its kind of scary, being an object of abuse on top of being "less of a man" and therefore "less of a human." Yeah I'd imagine it's not the most pleasant feeling when you're not used to getting positive attention but you are harassed at the same time. -when you are some "loser" who doesn't gets laid, People often mention the double standard of women being judged a lot more harshly for…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/25 03:35 AM
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Thanks man!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/25 12:08 AM
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they think we see women as literal hunks of meat. a detached device ironically much like the ones that feminists tout as a symbol of liberation. Projection on their part.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/25 11:44 PM
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female strip clubs are often portrayed as sleazy joints full of ugly, pervy men whereas male strip clubs are portrayed as more fun and cheeky ala Magic Mike. Probably because female sexuality is seen as being purer in a way, and women in general are seen as being less malicious than men. That and because sexual harassment and assault of men isn't taken seriously, men are expected to take it as a compliment because a woman gave them attention. Funny how double standards work: Women are expected t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/25 11:31 PM
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who kidnap the boys by jumping them as a group and bagging their heads, then presumably stripped them themselves They're then forced to kiss each other for the sorority's amusement before being branded on their butts (as in literally branded), Yeah that would never be portrayed as comedic if it was two women being kidnapped, stripped, branded and forced to kiss by men. So maybe sexualized depictions of women appear more - but those depictions aren't accompanied by degrading treatment being treat…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/25 10:22 PM
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Probably not as many as males, but I've noticed a fair few too. I'm one of them.
/r/EverydayMisandry02/01/25 05:37 PM
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Well it's true that there is a "male gaze" in the sense that advertisers and creators specifically cater some media to male audiences, such as through the use of attractive female characters or figures. It's not just a feminist concept. It's just marketing to your target audience and it's always been done, and each type of audience has some patterns in what they like. It's stereotypical but it's what sells because each target demographic has, on average, different interests than another target d…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/25 03:50 PM
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Well it's still the mother's body that's carrying the fetus so I think it should be up to her to decide whether to abort it or not. But the father shouldn't have to pay child support or be involved with the child at all if he doesn't want to, he should be able to have a paper abortion. If we're going to go further with this AFTER birth of the child should she choose not to abort it, there's also the question of whether a mother legally charged with raping the father should be allowed custody of …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/25 03:14 PM
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I'm sure some men do, especially depending on the culture we're talking about, but I don't think it happens to the same extent as it does among women at least in my experience. I was actually standing close to a male friend group a few weeks ago and one guy made a sexist joke, right afterward another guy called him out and said "don't say that". I've never seen another woman do that for men and I hear a LOT more sexist remarks about men than women regularly. Not because there's something inheren…
/r/EverydayMisandry02/01/25 01:28 AM
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If she's strong and independent, she should feel empowered to pay for her own drinks.
/r/EverydayMisandry31/12/24 05:32 PM
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Then they whine that there wasn't enough men voting for them. Hopefully the recent election serves as a wake-up call for what they've been doing, because I can't imagine speaking like that about a certain group of people especially whilst they're in the room. And then they have the audacity to say that men are the privileged ones, when they can talk about them like that in a public space and have people cheering as a result.
/r/EverydayMisandry31/12/24 05:28 PM
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It seems like there is a lot of misandry in the modern LGBTQ community in general.. probably because it's so closely allied with feminism. I'm gay myself so I've seen it and it irritates me sometimes, because many people who spout things like that about men are then the first to turn around and preach about "tolerance" and "equality" for all groups. Everyone's equally deserving of respect - until men come up of course. Then suddenly large segments of society suggest we do away with "tolerance an…
/r/EverydayMisandry31/12/24 12:30 PM
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I like his content and I follow him - I really do hope he becomes more popular and that more people start to speak up like him. Personally I believe that's what the men's movement needs right now. More people talking about it, more awareness and discussion. More positive media attention, even through alternative media. Today's world is revolved around social media so it's the quickest way to get information across to people, and not just men's rights spaces or forums like this one but it needs t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/12/24 08:09 PM
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I haven't directly been called a 'pick me' yet but I've had women suggest that I'm trying to impress men before, or that I "want men to come to my defense" apparently. And I've had women be pretty dismissive when I brought actual issues up. It's probably a defensive gesture on their part, at least that's what I assume. When misandry happens in discussions you're kind of expected to join in yourself, at least when men aren't around, it's kind of a bonding activity for some people for some reason.…
/r/EverydayMisandry30/12/24 07:47 PM
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Don't know about violence against women but violence against men is definitely systemic, at least domestic/sexual violence certainly is. From youth, we teach boys never to hit girls, but girls can hit and even beat boys and people say "she's just being playful" or "he did something to deserve it" or "she just has a crush on you". They grow up and we teach boys to respect women's consent, that no means no - we don't really teach the opposite. Men are taught how to treat women, women are taught ho…
/r/EverydayMisandry28/12/24 07:24 PM
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"Be kind with them because they are human with emotions too?" Yes. Basic decency. Towards anyone. Funny how someone supposedly "fighting" prejudice can't seem to understand being a decent human being to people who are different from you. Also Pinterest is probably the most misandrist social media platform out there, asides from maybe Tumblr. So I wouldn't expect anything better than this.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/12/24 01:04 PM
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If it was all really oriented around men's desires, we wouldn't define a man's worth by how well he can please women.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/12/24 04:05 AM
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https://chng.it/hDMT965Kpq There's actually a petition happening to take down another subreddit that fetishizes RIC; it's Circumstraint. Hopefully if enough people sign it will get taken down, petitions to Reddit helped take down RICfetish2 and CircMoms2 before.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/24 02:09 PM
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Saying anything that isn't mainstream I hate that hatred of a group is 'mainstream' because they supposedly "deserve it". Funny how suddenly tolerance and equality flies out the window when it's specific groups that are the target, like men. Shows it's not really about equality.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/12/24 01:34 PM
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I haven't lost my friends, mainly because I don't feel comfortable enough around them to express my opinions on misandry or men's issues yet (they lean more feminist and would probably be dismissive). But I have noticed that when I refused to hate on men before they didn't seem very pleased - so if I I'd start expressing my views on men's issues or misandry more, I don't think I'd necessarily lose them but it would definitely ruin their image of me to some extent. And they can think what they wa…
/r/EverydayMisandry27/12/24 01:10 PM
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Thanks for all the information! Do you happen to have any more examples of cases outside the US? It's more convincing for outsiders if I discuss issues on a global scale.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/12/24 04:25 AM
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Yeah circumcision has always seemed disturbing to me... And especially some of the reasons people use to justify it. Like when people say it will make the boy more attractive for future partners - that makes my skin crawl more than "hygienic" or religious reasons.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/12/24 03:39 PM
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Women disrespecting their man is pretty much a daily occurrence for me. Sorry to hear that... But that is something I'm curious about. I've heard varying statistics on male DV victims but statistics don't always capture the real number of victims when so many are afraid to speak out. How common do you think things like slapping or verbal abuse really are for men in relationships? As in - how many men have experienced things like that at some point in their lives?
/r/MensRights20/12/24 04:15 PM
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'her domineering personality' I wonder how much of that 'domineering personality' is just normalized abuse that people are blind to because it's a man being mistreated by a woman. Obviously I don't know the series you're talking about but in a lot of shows or movies (and even IRL) it's considered completely fine and acceptable for women to boss their husbands around, to "train" them like dogs, to "change"/manipulate them, yell at them, insult them, slap them around etc. I hate how it's so normal…
/r/MensRights20/12/24 01:49 PM
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I really don't understand why some lesbians feel the need to disparage men whenever they talk about their sexuality, speaking as one myself. It's not like you need to hate the opposite sex to be gay. These same people will harp on about "fragile masculinity" and how men supposedly hate on anything feminine because they're insecure in their masculinity, but then they hate on men or masculinity as if that's some kind of rite of passage that shows that they're lesbians. If you feel the need to cons…
/r/EverydayMisandry19/12/24 07:35 PM
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These people always act so smug when it comes to men's issues. When it's women's problems or experiences, you must always listen to women and be sympathetic. When it's men's problems, suddenly everyone is qualified to talk over men and minimize their issues because they know better than them apparently. Even when they pretend to care they still manage to come off as extremely smug and unlikeable.
/r/EverydayMisandry08/12/24 08:33 PM
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The core issue is the human condition of xenophobia. Out of all women, the women who feel the most alien to heterosexual men, are lesbians, as they have no desire to be with a man, resulting in no desire to understand men. That's often true but then why is it that gay men are known to be best friends with straight women? Not saying there aren't gay misogynists but gay men in general have a reputation of being the 'best friends' of straight women and clearly understanding them despite having no d…
/r/EverydayMisandry07/12/24 12:41 AM
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I see what you're saying. It's true that there's unfortunately a lot of misandry among lesbian/WLW friend groups and lesbian/WLW spaces (I'd know, being one myself and having experienced it). But I do believe it's very prevalent among straight women too, just in different ways. For example straight women who body-shame men for their size, virillity, height or scrawniness. Or straight women who push masculine gender roles on men without reciprocating the effort and without holding themselves to f…
/r/EverydayMisandry06/12/24 07:54 PM
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This is the only person outside of family in my 20 years together with my abusive ex who pro-actively told me they were uncomfortable with the way she treated me Damn... I'm really sorry. I hate this shit. This is why I'm a recluse. This is what the male loneliness epidemic is about. Yeah, I actually had a conversation/debate with someone on Reddit a few days ago regarding the male loneliness epidemic, and both the person and other users in the thread were so fixated on the idea that the lonelin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/24 02:56 PM
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Reddit is literally the only place where I’m free to communicate openly and honestly without fear of judgment or excommunication. Hope you find a better support network. There are people out there who'll accept you for who you are, they just aren't always easy to find.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/24 11:33 PM
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Gen Z and possibly Gen Alpha may well see men's issues as mainstream in the coming years. Hopefully... Only thing that's holding that awareness back is misandry within the younger generation right now. But I do hope a shift happens within our lifetimes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/24 10:40 PM
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Wow that's extreme... But I'm glad you found a better support network now
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/24 10:12 PM
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No movement is taken seriously in the beginning. A movement picks up widespread support through the honesty and persistence of its members who refuse to be quiet just because their ideas are considered silly or controversial. How do you think the movement can gain widespread support? Currently I don't think there's enough awareness
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/24 10:08 PM
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That actually makes a lot of sense... I guess I just assumed it was sort of a label or something, I thought it would be "breaking it to people" because it seems like too often the norm in society is to instantly dismiss men's issues and at least in my experience people can be hostile, but obviously that's just my experience.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/24 09:45 PM
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This applies to men too though. Men regularly put their own gender down by saying how men and their behavior are weird, or stupid, or crazy, even if they just joke about it... Or they contribute to other forms of misandry like dismissing men's SA experiences or assuming it's always the man's fault in DV situations. It's not just women who perpetuate misandry, it's all of society. It's not women that are at fault - it's people as a whole, both women AND men.
/r/MensRights03/12/24 05:40 PM
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Damn I'm really sorry that happened to you.. at such a young age no kid should be insecure about something like that.. and to make it worse no one ever talks about men's insecurities, even though it's considered completely fine to shame them for things they can't control
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/24 11:31 PM
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Wow, that's unexpected - and nice for a change!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/24 10:34 AM
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Yeah, everyday is men's day - that's why men are twice as likely to commit suicide, die prematurely, end up homeless, drop out of school, die on the job, be murdered and report lower life satisfaction. Because EVERYDAY IS MEN'S DAY apparently. That statement shows just how privileged someone is, ironically - only someone who's privileged can talk a group of people down and say how good they have it whilst being blissfully ignorant of their problems and not facing any social consequences for doin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/24 10:31 AM
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If anyone would try something like that, they'd instantly have feminists trying to stop the event. Feminists already protest against and stop events that talk about men's mental health, or they try to prevent domestic violence shelters from being built or they try to ban documentaries talking about men's issues - usually they succeed. They'd do the same to an International Men's Day event too, try to take it down before it can reach the media and reach most men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/24 10:18 AM
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And they say misandry isn't real or systemic...
/r/EverydayMisandry10/11/24 08:11 PM
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True... There's already been some authors who have written books on men's issues, like Warren Farrell. Thing is how do we get those books, people and ideas into the mainstream thought and into the academic field? 'Gender studies' programmes right now are almost exclusively focused on women and the feminist point of view, the MRA view isn't represented anywhere mainstream and not many scholars seem willing to discuss men's issues yet. Maybe if the field of 'Men's Studies' were to become more esta…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/24 11:49 AM
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Thanks! You're right, I'll just use a pseudonym. I think we need more numbers for the movement to reach organizations and such. Maybe a good strategy would be to advertise to younger men? They're the ones currently struggling with the dating scene and dropping out of society, they're the ones who spend most time on social media and media in general, and young people tend to be more rebellious and challenge social norms or rules.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/24 09:21 AM
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Maybe but the point is both are insulting.
/r/MensRights31/08/24 08:44 PM
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I never said men are dogs, I said we sometimes compare men to dogs too much.
/r/MensRights31/08/24 08:42 PM
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There's a lot of things like this in the media. I've heard feminists saying how media portrayals of sexual assault can feed into rape culture, and if that's the case then the media must SPOON-feed into rape culture against men with the amount of jokes about disregarding men's consent. Just a few weeks ago I caught a few scenes of some rom-coms on TV and one was about old ladies touching up a random man's arm, the other was the main female lead slapping her male love interest across the face and …
/r/EverydayMisandry31/08/24 12:05 PM
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It's ridiculous how people will say literally anything and do any mental gymnastics just to not empathize with men. Even sexual assault survivors don't get sympathy. And they say misandry isn't systemic!
/r/EverydayMisandry31/08/24 11:52 AM
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It's probably "always men" because women can't get charged with it in the first place in most places. Also you could apply this logic to crimes mostly committed by women, like infanticide, yet then it's misogyny. Stupid how people can't recognize it's wrong when the shoe is on the other foot.
/r/EverydayMisandry31/08/24 11:47 AM
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They are but people like them for being obedient, they're also still animals who usually have a collar around their neck. It's not that nice of a comparison.
/r/MensRights31/08/24 11:36 AM
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I'm sorry to hear that, I wish you and your friends healing. But yeah my theory is that in reality men's suicide attempts could be even higher if it wasn't for that stigma. The fact that people focus more on women's suicide ATTEMPTS that don't end in death compared to men's actual DEATHS caused by suicide shows why so many men don't open up in the first place, too many just don't care about men.
/r/MensRights31/08/24 11:33 AM
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Yeah the media often misrepresents the men's rights movement to make it seem like everyone involved is a misogynist, or an incel or other negative things. Sure there are MRAs who are like that, but there's also misandrist feminists yet that doesn't discredit feminism as a whole in the eyes of the media. They like to take things out of context too to make it seem like MRAs support misogyny or violence or they conveniently leave some details out to discredit the movement.
/r/MensRights31/08/24 11:27 AM
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A dog is more trustworthy and reliable than both women AND men, but that's because they're known to be obedient and to unconditionally respect their owners. Unlike cats who are known to fight back or stand up for themselves more.
/r/MensRights31/08/24 11:19 AM
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They are but they're seen that way because they obey humans unconditionally a lot of the time, compared to other animals (e.g. cats) who might run away or scratch if you mistreat them. So it's not exactly that flattering. Also it's still comparing humans to animals, something that's usually interpreted negatively and something that isn't as socially acceptable to do to women compared to men.
/r/MensRights31/08/24 11:13 AM
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Of course, not denying that but what I mean is that it's a lot more normalized to compare men to dogs than women (or just use degrading language about them in general). Again, if someone wrote a book on "how to train a woman like a dog" people would be rightfully angry, yet the inverse is seen as just a funny trope. Same with how in TV shows it's just light-hearted humor if a female character slaps her male love interest, but the inverse is abuse and usually portrayed as serious. Double standard…
/r/MensRights31/08/24 04:57 AM
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Yeah but "bitch" is seen as an insult, it's considered offensive, and it's just one word. We compare men to dogs even when we don't intentionally want to insult them -- like those books I've mentioned giving advice on dating men, those would never be accepted if they were written about "training women like dogs", or at least they would get a lot of backlash.
/r/MensRights31/08/24 04:44 AM
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Yet you never hear that being talked about in the mainstream media, instead shows like The View can go on TV talking about how women don't need men or The Ellen Show can mock men on International Men's Day - because that's more important than men dropping out of school, work and society and killing themselves! And yet "misandry isn't systemic/doesn't cause harm" and "it's not society's job to coddle men's feelings!!" All of this by people who claim to advocate for gender equality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/24 04:27 AM
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And a lot of those people conveniently ignore the rights that men currently don't have compared to women - like unequal laws for rape perpetrators based on sex, or men's lack of reproductive rights or men in certain countries being forced into military service or conscription and being forced into jail if they refuse. Suddenly, we don't need to offer support when men are affected!!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/24 04:04 AM
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Yeah, trashing on men in general is just way too acceptable in society. Even when mainstream society brings up male issues, it's always accompanied by this undertone of blaming men. Male suicide on the rise? Well it must be because men are too stubborn to open up! Men falling behind in education? Well it must be because they're unmotivated or that boys misbehave! Male health is in decline? Well it's because men just refuse to go to the doctor! I think that attitude is one of the first things to …
/r/MensRights31/08/24 03:55 AM
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Fighting fire with fire, basically. Or using history as an excuse to be sexist in the present.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/24 02:37 AM
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Suicide attempts have to be reported so even if it's true that women statistically have higher suicide rates, that could just be because a woman who attempts suicide and survives is then more likely to share her experience than a man who does the same. It makes sense since men typically don't report other things like health issues, domestic violence, sexual violence etc. Male suicide attempts would probably statistically increase to the level of women's if it wasn't for society shaming men for o…
/r/MensRights31/08/24 02:33 AM
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I think in lesbian spaces a lot of heterophobia comes from misandry. Whenever I'm in a lesbian sub there's always one person talking about her negative experiences with a man and then everyone else has to crap on the entire male gender. Meanwhile if there's a post about someone's abusive girlfriend or something, suddenly it's not 'women' or 'lesbians' who are the problem - it's just that one woman! And these are supposed to be "tolerant" places that don't accept discrimination, yet when it's tow…
/r/EverydayMisandry31/08/24 02:00 AM
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Yeah, a lot of claims made by feminists against MRAs are just projection if you think about it. "Blaming women" - meanwhile lots of feminists blame everything on men. "But that's done by other men!!" "And who set that system up?" "Rape apologists" - yet a lot of feminists oppose equal rape laws that would allow female perpetrators to be punished equally as males, allowing them to get away with it. "Men not letting men open up" - yet it was feminists drinking cups with 'male tears' written on the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/24 01:20 AM
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"Who set that system up?" I really don't like this rebuttal either. Gender roles have been around for a long, long time - generations and generations. Anyone who is alive now to say that wasn't around when they were first created, if you can even point to a specific time frame in which they were invented. So if you weren't around when the "system" was created how can you point to a specific group of people and say for certain that they made it? Proof? Do gender roles have a signature on them say…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/24 08:49 PM
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I see. Thanks!
/r/MensRights30/07/24 12:04 AM
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That's interesting... Just out of curiosity: can I ask why, in your opinion, would lesbians be reported more for crimes compared to straight women? Is it because of homophobia? Or because they're perceived as more masculine?
/r/MensRights29/07/24 10:56 PM
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