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You're a guy. Whether it's asking a girl you met in the street for her phone number, or making the move to fuck her, women expect you to risk your pride for them. They expect you to risk failure. She turned up at your front door, wet, in a thong and a T shirt - literally yours for the taking - and instead of rising to the situation she presented you with...you finished watching a TV programme.
/r/seduction04/05/13 09:13 PM
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"Yes, that's why you like me." Remember, the bottom line of seduction is to assume attraction.
/r/seduction04/05/13 08:04 PM
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Just as a follow-up to FUCK_YEA_GLITTER's post, when you state your interest, not only are you valuing her above yourself, but you are showing your cards, so to speak. She knows what your hand is; you are already "solved", so to speak. You're no longer a mystery.
/r/seduction16/01/13 01:51 AM
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Very true. But don't dwell on regret, harness it. Dwelling on things you can't change is completely damn pointless - you might as well be complaining that you can't breathe underwater. Don't forget the things that could've been different, but don't waste energy on them - use that energy instead to change you, so you can avoid accruing regret in the first place.
/r/seduction21/10/12 09:40 AM
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Thanks...I know she won't get drunk (she has never been drunk in her life), but yeah, all the other things are there, and it's cast in my favor. I liked the Malcom in the Middle comment...that's a good way of putting it.
/r/seduction28/09/12 11:57 AM
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Agreed. Brilliant advice. I guess I'm one of many who have also coined them term "Escalation Anxiety" to themselves, not realising that many others have, and simply thinking you've just gotta bite the bullet in the same way with Approach Anxiety. But to put the anxiety as a cue for escalating is a great idea.
/r/seduction28/09/12 11:36 AM
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Good advice. I think #-closes are being given far too much of an elevated status on Seddit. Yes it is nice to do, but it's little more than a potential means to give you logistical compliance.
/r/seduction28/09/12 12:04 AM
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Yes we can help you: approach the damn women! We can only show you the door, it's up to you to walk through it. So what if you crash and burn? If she's hot, chances are loads of guys approach her, and have done the same thing. The worst you'll come across as is normal.
/r/seduction26/09/12 08:48 PM
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The biggest impression I get from your post is Facebook. I don't think you should have added her, and if your messages don't a) assert the logistics of meeting her or b) increase your value, then in my opinion, you shouldn't be sending them. Facebook is possibly the steepest slippery slope for mindless interaction which puts you into the friendzone. If you are online on chat, change that immediately. Perhaps appear online to just your closest friends if you speak with them frequently, but there …
/r/seduction26/09/12 11:38 AM
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I probably wouldn't use the same outfit consecutively, e.g. the second session/class or whatever. But if you only see her once or twice a week, then it's no stress having a new outfit ready for the next meeting.
/r/seduction26/09/12 11:24 AM
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Nice work. I'm guessing that when she asked what and you turned her head towards you, you kissed her?
/r/seduction26/09/12 11:21 AM
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Very true. What truly defines a container is its contents, not the label on it.
/r/seduction25/09/12 11:32 PM
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I would say that cocky is an exaggeration of confident, e.g., being overly self-confident. I think the real distinction is between egotistical and confident, and there were some good responses to that in this discussion.
/r/seduction24/09/12 10:26 AM
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This is the right answer. If she doesn't respond, nothing whatsoever is lost.
/r/seduction24/09/12 10:18 AM
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The realisation of all the sex I turned down just because I put protection of my own feelings above giving a load of really hot women what they very clearly wanted...yeah, that's been pretty compelling for me.
/r/seduction23/09/12 11:50 PM
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You can be right without being sanctimonious dude. Actually, the most popular response at the time I write this is one which doesn't agree and amplify, but openly calls her out on her bullshit.
/r/seduction23/09/12 10:09 PM
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I agree. To openly call a girl out on her shit test is also pretty damn alpha - and deservedly so when it's such a blatant one.
/r/seduction23/09/12 09:51 PM
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Bit late to the party, but yeah, stating your intentions can be a significant form of damage limitation. A lot of times, I had what can best be described as escalation anxiety at times where I absolutely should have escalated. Of course to her, it made no sense, she no doubt started asking herself "why didn't he escalate?", and ultimately meant a dent in her pride. I was once asked to go back to HB's flat but declined because I was in a long term relationship. Shortly after declining, I explaine…
/r/seduction23/09/12 09:45 PM
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I know what you mean bro, it had to be spelled out like that for me before it sunk in, instead of blindly thinking I'm daft for not escalating. It also helps with approach anxiety as well. I was waiting at a common meet-up point in town today, and there was this absolute babe there, aslo waiting to meet some-others/one. She gave me a couple of IOIs, stood right in front of me, body language kind of pointing towards me, and kept getting closer and closer. I thought: if I don't at least say someth…
/r/seduction23/09/12 08:06 PM
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Ask yourself why do you evaluate everything, and why do you refrain from escalating? Presumably because you don't want to feel rejected, right? That's what it is. What's really worked for me is to think that by not doing so, I am a jerk. I've pissed off so many girls by not escalating when I should've done, because not only did they expect me to do so, but more broadly, they expected me to risk my pride for them. I can't stress how important this is. Women want you to do that. So yeah, what work…
/r/seduction22/09/12 11:05 PM
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Solid advice. Remember that before anyone was very good at something, there was a time when they were were not very good at it. They became very good not by dwelling on what went wrong, but learning from experience, keeping the good things, losing the bad things, and basically doing it over and over again until they got it right.
/r/seduction22/09/12 04:51 PM
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I like this. It's cheeky, and it completely turns the tables. You never know, it might switch over to her telling you you're attractive, in her opinion at least. You're right about talking about being ugly. It's not only boring, it's completely fucking pointless. One might as well be complaining about not being able to breathe underwater.
/r/seduction22/09/12 02:37 PM
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Probably both I'd say. Eastern European chicks tend to be like that, in my experience.
/r/seduction22/09/12 02:32 PM
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Sorry buddy, but I think she has already given you the answer to your question.
/r/seduction22/09/12 02:14 PM
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Yeah, I was thinking that too...making her laugh would definitely catch her off guard.
/r/seduction22/09/12 12:40 PM
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She always ended up with psycho bfs because we know that women prefer bad guys over nice guys. These comments are just another kind of shit test. I normally say "ah that's a shame...I'm an asshole", and grin at her. Has always worked for me.
/r/seduction22/09/12 11:39 AM
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Ego is the Latin for "I". It refers to the self. You can be confident without focusing on you. On a deeper level, being egotistical relates more to fearing your pride being hurt, e.g., not being willing to approach or escalate means that you are putting your pride and a reluctance to risk it being injured above the wishes and desires of a girl. Selfish and unchivalrous, in my book.
/r/seduction21/09/12 11:44 PM
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Nice work buddy. I absolutely agree that K-closing eliminates the sexual tension to some extent, however well you kiss. I'm going to meet a girl in her city soon, logistics prevent an F-close at hers but I was hoping to K-close on a date. In order to F-close, she would have to visit me another day where I live. I'm not sure if I'll K-close her now - would much rather keep the sexual tension going and have it fully vindicated where I live, instead of losing some of it and risk her flaking or not …
/r/seduction17/09/12 08:50 PM
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Yep, it's a means to attain logistical compliance, assuming she's even given you the correct number. It's a step in the right direction, but definitely not any kind of finish line.
/r/seduction15/09/12 07:22 PM
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It's awkward because you're just not talking. There's no magic sentence which will get her to respond the way you want her to - and that's a good thing, because what's being tested is your confidence, not truly what you say. If you've got hobbies and activities that's great - perhaps you see something on her that she's wearing which relates to them? Many of my approaches also tend to be commenting on my observations of other people at the party/club/in the street/whatever etc.
/r/seduction14/09/12 02:22 PM
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Alright bro, this is Seddit. We can't help you with an individual lady, and the numerous but specific and unique situations that may occur with her. We can only help your skills with women in general. You've realised that you don't have the skills to deal with this girl. For that reason, you come to us because you don't want to mess it up. Unfortunately, that is already proof that you have blown it - you don't have the skills, and that's why you find yourself in the friendzone. Sorry buddy, not …
/r/seduction14/09/12 02:02 PM
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You don't need a million dollars to look like a million dollars. Dress well, groom well, smell nice - best advice I could give.
/r/seduction14/09/12 01:25 PM
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Pretty much, yes. When you tell her how you feel with the hope that she tells you she feels the same way, you transfer all of your value onto her. You stop being the awesome alpha male who can make the assumption that women want to to be with him, and instantly make her the valuable one who must decide if you are worthy enough.
/r/seduction12/09/12 03:37 PM
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Don't.
/r/seduction12/09/12 12:41 PM
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I agree with your first point in principle, but realistically, there must be many films out there which lend themselves better to watching with a girl than others.
/r/seduction12/09/12 01:18 AM
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Not telling her how you feel is obviously broadly related to the pedestal, but the pedestal is more than just that, e.g. switching your time around hers to try and accommodate her flaking. Basically, your world should revolve around you and the awesome things you do, not her.
/r/seduction11/09/12 05:05 PM
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Your interactions must not imply that you want something from her. You must be the alpha male in control of his desires and emotions, and she will react positively to that. Needing and wanting something from a woman can be likened to a desire for matriarchal attention, which is not attractive. You want her as a lover, not a mother.
/r/seduction11/09/12 03:07 PM
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What would be the point of the conversation? And what is the "point", what are you trying to attain? Dinner, a movie? Or her coming to your place?
/r/seduction11/09/12 12:42 PM
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Read DiCarlo's Escalation Guide. Lots of good things in there for you to consider.
/r/seduction11/09/12 12:41 PM
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Sorry, I can't separate these, they have all been fundamental: Don't put her on a pedestal/tell her how you feel. Use SMS/Facebook chat VERY frugally. If something doesn't increase your value, don't send it. You are the valuable one, not her. She is competing for your time, not the other way round. Assume attracation, escalate. Tell, don't ask. If you're going to meet up in town or she's going to come round to watch a movie, state when and where she should be. Don't ask her if she's available; s…
/r/seduction11/09/12 01:19 AM
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Nope, not wrong.
/r/seduction10/09/12 12:37 PM
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JavaMummy is right - one step after another. Trying to take too many steps at once is what makes people come off as a creep. While you're making out, touch her skin. I mean, her neck, the back of her neck, that sort of thing. Then she's used to you touching her skin. Then, lift up her shirt or whatever so her skin is exposed. At the same time, lift up yours so your bellies touch. Obviously you have to be subtle about it. This is probably going to spark strong sexual feelings in her and should ho…
/r/seduction10/09/12 12:14 AM
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It's that way ----->
/r/seduction08/09/12 03:46 PM
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Don't even mention it. It's only an issue if you make it one.
/r/seduction08/09/12 01:07 PM
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Did a similar thing, gained muscle, yep, has only positive effects. Working out is one of the wisest investments you can make.
/r/seduction08/09/12 11:47 AM
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Failing to grasp something that we feel we should have done earlier is something everyone does, e.g. in an argument. The best you can do is learn from them so you don't do them again. My mentality is that mistakes are just lessons which are repeated until they are learned.
/r/seduction07/09/12 03:46 PM
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If Facebook really is the only means to contact her, I would do what has already been suggested: send her a message, except one with your number, telling her to text you. Just say "Hey it's Dave, just realised I didn't get your number. I'm <phone number>, text me yours. X" It's telling, not asking; it's alpha - straight to the point. If she texts back, great, if not move on. I would advise against adding her yourself. If she adds you, for God's sake, get the hell off Facebook chat. Firstly, ther…
/r/seduction07/09/12 03:42 PM
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10-4. This and your previous comment is solid game.
/r/seduction06/09/12 03:26 AM
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You're not the first to say this, but yeah, you're damn right. There's a HB I'm quite interested in. Although a future opportunity has me in a much better life position than I was at the time, I let an opportunity with her literally slip out of my hands. I'm completely into the abundance mentality, have picked-up other girls, and absolutely reject any suggestion that I have oneitis, but I still regret missing out. Luckily, I am definitely not friendzoned and there is the opportunity for another …
/r/seduction06/09/12 03:02 AM
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I don't feel like that, but now that I've discovered pick-up artistry, I definitely look back and realise what I was doing right and the results those good things got, and what I was doing wrong, and the opportunities which slipped through my fingers. Seddit has definitely helped me separate the wheat from the chaff.
/r/seduction06/09/12 02:34 AM
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This is pretty much what I do: imagine them constipated.
/r/seduction31/08/12 07:25 PM
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That's kind of putting her on a pedestal...
/r/seduction31/08/12 02:43 PM
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No, I mean it's not working because it's not working. We wouldn't be having this discussion/OP wouldn't have submitted this if it was.
/r/seduction31/08/12 02:42 PM
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Cannot agree with this enough.
/r/seduction31/08/12 04:40 AM
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Why do you not want to bring a girl back to yours? Is it a cultural/religious thing? Or is it just because of how you feel that you are living with your parents? If the latter, then it's only an issue if you make it one. I'm a guy and if I had a twenty-two year old son, then I would more disappointed if he wasn't bringing girls back.
/r/seduction30/08/12 10:10 PM
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This is very true, and not just in terms of seduction, but for life in general. You might groan that you need to go to the gym, you might drag yourself there, but once you're there, you basically never regret it. Dunno about everyone else, but I only regret the workouts I didn't do - and that's why I'm going to the gym right this very moment.
/r/seduction30/08/12 08:13 PM
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It's not about being afraid to give the game away or fear of rejection. It's about a crude opener with no substance or interest, which immediately says to the girl that the op wants something from her. It might work when she's alone, but the issue is that the op's method when she's not is clearly not working.
/r/seduction30/08/12 05:18 PM
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Check this thread on texting an assertion and more importantly, the most-upvoted comment, which is from a girl: As a girl, I love those kinds of direct invites. Saying "Free tomorrow?" means I have to follow up with 5 texts asking where we are going, who with, what time to be there, and who is driving, and what we will be doing. I'd rather just say "no."
/r/seduction30/08/12 02:53 PM
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Came here to post the same thing. It is awesome advice and there are good suggestions for things to get, which girls at your pad will appreciate, e.g. small garbage can in the bathroom for sanitary towels.
/r/seduction30/08/12 01:33 PM
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i) By "want something", I mean: want sex. It's fine to ask for an opinion or something like that, but the butt thing is just too obvious and gives the game away. ii) Push/pull...sure, but surely it's the other way round? Show her you have value, then push her away, then she'll want it. iii) Doesn't answer the issue.
/r/seduction30/08/12 11:58 AM
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...which she probably assumes is what every new guy she speaks to wants to give her.
/r/seduction30/08/12 01:41 AM
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No, because you are immediately implying that you want something from her, and that she has a higher value than you do. Are you actually offering her anything? No - that's why she can laugh you off.
/r/seduction30/08/12 01:29 AM
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If you're direct, I'm inclined to say that it doesn't really matter too much. What's being tested most of all is your confidence/alpha-ness, not what you say.
/r/seduction30/08/12 01:22 AM
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You told her that you are speaking to her for no other apparent reason than that you like her ass. To her, that says you want something from her, and that's only OK if she wants the same thing (presumably sex) from you too. Because once she knows you want something from her, it's game over I'm afraid.
/r/seduction30/08/12 12:11 AM
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Ahhhh got it. FWIW, my folks, well it's nothing to do with religion or culture with them, but I think what got them used to me bringing girls home is by me sleeping with girls at theirs. Then, them staying at mine was not some massive upheaval, just an extension of what was already going on. It will - hopefully frustrated enough to go and pick up some chicks. Sorry dude, but speaking from experience, it's true.
/r/seduction29/08/12 11:59 PM
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Why would they not be cool with it? You're 21 year old guy, surely it's what they must eventually expect of a 21 year old guy? Talk to them and find out. Yes, it is absolutely worth cutting out masterbation. Each time you fap, you are short-circuiting out your body's desire for sexual gratification. It's wanting girls enough that will make you go out and get them.
/r/seduction29/08/12 11:41 PM
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I'd say it's just because she's waiting for the right moment, when she feels ready. Not necessarily the same as the right guy, by the way.
/r/seduction29/08/12 11:39 PM
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He should: 1. Have got her phone number. He should not have: 1. Added her on Facebook. 2. Asked her out via Facebook.
/r/seduction28/08/12 12:59 AM
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Apart from meeting new people through her, the other massively positive aspect is the enormous amount of social proof/value it gives you. I mean, romance or not, if an older HB8-9 thinks you're a reasonable enough guy to live with, then that gives you a huge amount of social validation. Other girls will notice that, no question.
/r/seduction28/08/12 12:47 AM
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And more importantly, this.
/r/seduction27/08/12 08:29 PM
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See this.
/r/seduction27/08/12 08:14 PM
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It's only dirty if it is actually dirty. Just make sure you're clean and tidy down there, and yeah, as has been said, if your dick is out then the finish line is in sight anyway. If circumcision is relatively frequent in your culture and girls kind of expect it, then perhaps don't bring it up in conversation.
/r/seduction27/08/12 03:37 PM
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One thing that must be said when it comes to Facebook is: get the hell of Facebook chat. Perhaps create a list of your close friends that you might instant message, but everyone else - including HBs - appear offline to them. Seriously, there are few things more unattractive than appearing constantly available.
/r/seduction26/08/12 02:04 AM
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I know what you mean dude. A guy I know is a complete womaniser. Then I heard him mention a couple of pieces of PUA terminology and it all made sense. Yeah, it's true it was a positive influence. It makes you think: well, if he can do it, so can I. Plus, there's something additionally positive/feel-good about being one of a group of guys who can successfully get women, which further improves your game/confidence. Personally though, I would say that the most successful way to get good is to keep …
/r/seduction24/08/12 08:34 AM
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10-4, plus you're putting a higher value on her than you are yourself. Take her off that damn pedestal and then you will have no reason to be shy.
/r/seduction20/08/12 02:47 AM
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I would simply ask "Why?" When she asks you to buy you a drink, the burden is on you to decide if you can match the value she ascribes to herself by thinking she can get a drink on demand. But if you ask why, the burden is then on her to justify her value to you, and that makes you already the higher value thing. I'm really cynical when it comes to girls asking for drinks. She may easily just want to get her friend a free one.
/r/seduction20/08/12 02:28 AM
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This shouldn't be considered a joke suggestion. If she hasn't disappeared in the night, she may want/need to check her e-mail or a train/bus timetable or whatever, something like that. Nothing reeks of the desperate smell of trying to hide something than typing the address in the browser for her. Alternatively, you can surreptitiously direct her to a browser you don't use, or use for only innocuous things. Or just use the damn private browsing mode when you aren't.
/r/seduction20/08/12 02:12 AM
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