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Boys on this sub failing to understand real world adult problems yet again! Not everything revolves around gender - this case is about the hospital trying to cover up/ avoid negative press. This is a common problem that affects organisations like hospitals. It’s got nothing to do with your inability to get laid. If the parents of any of those babies knew you were using what happened to their children to further your disgusting misogynistic bs they would be even more devestasted. Have some respec…
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 01:48 PM
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There are not “good traits” or “bad traits”. There are traits which can sometimes be useful/beneficial and sometimes harmful. In one situation it might be really beneficial to hyperfocus (completing a school assignment), in other situations (pursuing a woman) that hyperfocusing trait could be awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 04:56 PM
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There’s no “cure” or “treatment” because it’s just a different type of brain, and it’s necessary for the world to function. Best just focus on how to make the world around autistics less disabling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 04:43 PM
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What made you think I’m surprised?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 02:47 PM
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They are definitely autistic. It’s an autistic space, everyone is autistic apart from staff at the venue and the odd partner/support worker. It’s different to being in a neurotypical environment. Because of the way it’s all adjusted for autistic needs people tend to me more confident & relaxed. I don’t quite understand why you are trying to invalidate my experience? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 02:33 PM
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I don’t think what you are experiencing is unusual for autistic people. It’s not necessarily a sustainable approach. It’s been proven to increase the risk of suicide so I’d be cautious encouraging others to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 02:29 PM
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You can’t “correct” experiences if you weren’t present. I was there, I know what I experienced. No, autistic men don’t hide their interest. They might think they to but they don’t. They come across as overly interested. I don’t know why you think you know more about this than me. It’s bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:40 PM
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I’m sorry you feel that way. Yes, mixing with NTs is difficult, but trying to mask does hugely increase your risk of mental health problems and suicidality. I generally hang out in queer spaces which by default have a lot of ND. Also… a lot of NTs don’t actually like following society’s expectations and limitations, but they don’t deviate from it because they conform to societal norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:38 PM
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My sexuality isn’t temporary. Of course they’re not options.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:34 PM
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What about that is deflection? I’m not in to men. They are not options. As mentioned in my post I have been attacked for rejecting someone in the past. It’s an entirely reasonable concern,
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:25 PM
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I’m talking from experience - I’ve met autistic men and I’ve met NT men. The NT men are much more likely to back off of you show disinterest. This is my observation, I can’t take you back in time with me to each occasion. How is telling them to back off when they’re being creepy not good advice? Do you think being overly keen is attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:22 PM
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“Integrate and mimic NTs”… no that is very bad advice. It is well documented this leads to increased risk of suicide. And there’s no reason NTs shouldn’t integrate with NDs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:19 PM
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Yes I told him I’m lesbian. I then later reinforced that I’m not interested in men because I’m lesbian. That was after he invited me to his room. Which he later told me was just to chat away from the noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:17 PM
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I didn’t say anything about it being exclusively autistic men. It is usually autistic men. Conclusion reached through 1) experience mixing with both NT and autistic men 2) the fact autistic people don’t pick up social cues as easily and often fixate on things. Regardless of if there person is autistic or not. Being too forward is going to put women off so this is reasonable advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 12:32 PM
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Harassment isn’t oPtIOns. No man is an option to me. Being afraid you are going to be attacked or raped is a legitimately unpleasant experience. Not everyone has the same motivations and problems as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 12:29 PM
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No, you don’t understand. There is a difference between showing interest and being completely fixated on someone.. and that’s the point at which the “ick” comes in. It’s just not something that’s ever been a big issue with NT men. Usually they either read the social cues and back off, or they are at least engaged with others in the group, not constantly focusing attention on the person they’re attracted to. It’s interesting to me that the responses to this are in some way invalidate my experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 12:16 PM
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It wasn’t their space, it was a collective autistic space. I don’t see attending such a retreat as evidence of “major issues”… more evidence of attempting to have a social life, wanting a break from neurotypicals, and interest in all the talks and workshops that were going on. Why do they think they have a chance after explicitly being told they don’t? Not only being told there’s no romantic interest, but that I’m lesbian. I understand not picking up the social cues, but after explicitly telling…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 12:07 PM
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I mean… it was a retreat for autistic people. Unlikely they were NT! I’ve discussed this with my twin because she obviously looks just like me and she’s worked with a lot of autistic people. She said it’s something she experiences with the autistic men. Like they get really focused on her and cannot hide their attraction at all. I don’t think you need to believe on a dubious online movement to adjust that behaviour. To add - one of these men already had a wife AND a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 11:43 AM
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If there are people putting blackpilled content on social media then there are people making money off it. The nihilistic view of life that leads to blackpilled stuff isn’t unique to lonely men. It’s pretty common among people with depression. There are plenty of very attractive late teens/early twenties girls/women who have an equally bleak outlook on life, just that it’s focused around other things.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 10:54 AM
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No it starts with male “self improvement” videos, they seem harmless enough on the face of it but then the algorithm drags them down a rabbit hole. There are plenty of men who get a lot of women that hold red pill beliefs. I understand that you are saying it’s a reaction to not getting women, and while I sympathise with men who struggle to date and don’t doubt that leads people down that path, the men wouldn’t go the pilled route unless they were being lured by male influencers trying to make a …
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 10:43 AM
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Who said anything about shitposts on obscure online forums? I’m talking about YouTube & TikTok algorithms.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 10:37 AM
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Sadly it is. Many of them were lured in to it as teenagers and now too deep in to realise it was a pile of crap.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 09:58 AM
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Sometimes there’s not chemistry. But also maybe you came across too keen
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 09:07 AM
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I feel like you missed the big one that if she’s dependent on a man and he begins mistreating her she cannot easily leave. I think most women don’t consider sex work and cosmetic surgery to be their main motivators to remain single.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 09:03 AM
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This is tricky because often young people of this age will do the exact opposite of what their parents advise. I would try to link them with men who are positive role models, that they can see as a peer. I’d explain a bit about how people get recruited in to cults so they can see how all the same tactics are being used and how they’ve been taken advantage of. I would offer to pay for therapy but not force it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 08:56 AM
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Yeah men also conveniently forget that with time their erections become fickle and so younger women are likely to get fed up with their boner issues and not feel satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 08:46 AM
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Do….. do you know about the menstrual cycle? Maybe learn - help you maximise your chance of getting laid because you can predict the “selective” horniness.
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/23 08:38 PM
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You mean you don’t want to tell me because I’m right - it’s about looks. Porn looks that good due to lighting, camera angles and professional hair and makeup. It’s not reality. Deal with it.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 05:18 PM
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Not every guy is attractive. Women just look like real women. Even the porn actresses would look like that if they were filmed at dodgy angles, no lighting, no professional hair and makeup on call. That’s just what real women look like.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 05:16 PM
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So what about it makes you blackpilled?
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 05:12 PM
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Yes and what is it about that which makes you blackpilled? The only logical conclusion is you are comparing it to the mainstream porn which is unrealistic fantasy.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 05:09 PM
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Amateur porn is real sex. That’s what real sex is like.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 05:06 PM
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Lol porn is fantasy. Do you get mad that your life isn’t exactly like the set of sitcom? No because they’re actors, acting. Porn is not what real sex is like or was ever like. Plenty of men enjoy the reality just fine. ETA: I guess you could compare this to films vs documentaries.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 05:02 PM
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Lots of men are attracted to vulnerability and want someone compliant who they can influence, so therefore they are drawn to autistic women (without realising it). Autistic women may be able to get men, but getting good men is a different story. They are at much higher risk of sexual violence and abuse than NT women. So it’s swings and roundabouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:12 AM
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Gen what now? “Pick better” is something RP/Blackpill men say to women. I haven’t seen it said to men.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 09:47 AM
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You might see it as “dumb generic advice”, and sure it’s common sense/straightforward advice, but no m, incels aren’t doing it. They’re dismissing it. Maybe a social even once every six months that they decide will be awful before they even arrive. Nobody is suggesting they stop wanting sex either. Having more going on on your life would help stop you obsessing over it though and give you more examples of real life relationships.
/r/AllPillDebate30/07/23 09:34 AM
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You might see it as “dumb generic advice”, and sure it’s common sense/straightforward advice, but no m, incels aren’t doing it. They’re dismissing it. Maybe a social even once every six months that they decide will be awful before they even arrive. Nobody is suggesting they stop wanting sex either. Having more going on on your life would help stop you obsessing over it though and give you more examples of real life relationships.
/r/AllPillDebate30/07/23 09:34 AM
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What’s interesting is that you still keep this focused on women, even when people are telling you to get some perspective. When people say “tough grass” they don’t mean “interact with women” they mean go outside and experience the world. Observe things that are outside of yourself, see how the world works, enjoy the natural world and all the variety there is.
/r/AllPillDebate30/07/23 07:59 AM
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You…. You understand how testosterone works right?
/r/AllPillDebate29/07/23 02:16 PM
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I’m in the UK. It’s probably better here. Restaurant bills are split, the country is less spread out meaning you’ve got more people in your geographic range to potentially date.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 09:45 AM
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Yeah I mean they could be miserable for a multitude of reasons behind their relationship. Similarly people unhappy in their relationship could be happy about a new puppy or something. Framing it all in the context of relationships is just a sign that the person projecting these things on to them is very fixated on relationships/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 04:06 PM
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You can’t. You can guess but you can’t always tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 04:04 PM
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Feminist here - I too am interested in this! Seems to be an American thing. When I dated men I never let them pay my half! I live in a liberal area and few people allow men to pay. It baffles me when women still expect this. So curious to see the justifications….
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 03:35 PM
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This is just your cognitive bias. Very few women wander in to bars / shops or whatever and share their relationship problems with the server. You cannot tell from looking at someone how happy they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 03:29 PM
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I was not impressed by BlackPillScience and I was even less impressed when a poster gave me their interpretation of a study which they were so confident was watertight evidence of something that it clearly wasn’t.
/r/AllPillDebate23/07/23 07:24 PM
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Ooooo I didn’t realise you were ✨special ✨. You’re just someone on Reddit to me I’m afraid. Since you have a degree in statistics I’m sure you’ll agree that TRP use of “science” and “statistics” is embarrassing.
/r/AllPillDebate23/07/23 07:17 PM
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There’s a difference between coercive control and coercive behaviours. Example 1) If he was clear that it was only FWB situation and she asks, he declines, she can leave him. If she starts saying stuff like “I’ll only have sex with you if you get exclusive, you’ll never find as good a lay as me” then she’s coercing him. Example 2) If you get in to a relationship with an unemployed person, don’t ask them to get a job. If the lack of job is an issue, don’t start the relationship. And no, it’s not …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:34 PM
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Some more explanation here. I personally am unable to see images in my mind. I think exclusively in words. This makes planning outfits and interior design a nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:21 PM
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Someone has never heard of hyperphantasia and aphantasia.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:16 PM
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Guys underestimate how easily a lot of women can see through that shit as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 02:44 PM
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in the response of cheating. What happens when the person says “I don’t accept a partner who cheats on me” and the partner cheats? Do they leave? ..... yes. That's the obvious choice. Healthy relationships need trust. All boundaries will require a threat of consequence in this case leaving. No they don't. You are simply wrong. You can assert a boundary without even communicating that boundary. Example, someone is texting you speaking to you in a way that you will not tolerate, so you block them.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 02:33 PM
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No they don’t. How is choosing not to enter a relationship with someone who posts bikini pics a “threat”? A threat is “if you don’t do X then Y will happen”… a boundary is “I’m not going to date this person because they don’t do X”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 01:49 PM
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The first statement is a threat. The second is setting a boundary.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 10:06 AM
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Wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 10:05 AM
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“my boundary is me leaving this relationship if my partner does x, y and z”. This is not a boundary. If the person didn’t get in to a relationship with someone who did those things it’s a boundary. If they get in to the relationship knowing the partner behaves a certain way, then threaten to leave if the partner doesn’t change, that’s coercive control. It’s not a boundary.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 10:04 AM
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No dude. The science is awful. You say you’re “science pill” but do you actually have any scientific background/training? I had a similar interaction with someone on here recently. They directed me to a Black Pill “science” page and they were totally misinterpreting the studies and not seeing gaping holes in the design of the studies.
/r/AllPillDebate23/07/23 09:15 AM
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I had to google what “sub8” is. Literally the only people who care this much about dating and looks are young men. Nobody else cares. Feminists care about things like violence against women, wage gaps, women’s health. People also care about things unrelated to gender, like foreign policy, education & healthcare, poverty, finance. The only people sitting around obsessing over “the dating market” are young men who don’t get sex or insecure men who need to go to therapy.
/r/AllPillDebate22/07/23 10:31 AM
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You… you realise women don’t have one collective brain right? I’ve actually never heard cold app e referred to as shallow or objectifying, it’s more that it’s creepy, unwanted and often inappropriate. Rejecting men can be dangerous, people don’t want to be put in that position while going about their daily business.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 09:50 AM
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Also autistic! The clear instructions are for neurotypical people, you can try to confirm but your interactions won’t be fulfilling and you’ll burn out. Unfortunately autistic people can take things very literally and not understand hyperbole, which means they interpret RP in a very rigid way. Autistics are very vulnerable to being sucked in by manosphere con artists who take advantage of them in order to get them to sign up to courses and things. It’s actually a safeguarding issue and the team …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 09:43 AM
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I’m not a troll. But you probably are a teenager.
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 12:23 PM
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You are referring to a British news report. The problem here is lack of evidence, as the Crown Prosecution Service will only press charges if there is enough evidence for a conviction. Since the police in the UK are famously misogynistic & sexist they’re not very diligent with gathering evidence. It’s pathetic that the boys in this sub keep commenting on grown up problems. Honestly I don’t know what is wrong with you all. Get a fucking life.
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 11:56 AM
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Really? Have you got any examples of that?
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 11:46 AM
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I don’t think anyone is disputing that domestic abusers are misogynistic… it’s kind of a key foundation of the abuse.
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 10:02 AM
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It’s not weird at all. Sexuality is just a confusing topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:46 PM
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No trust me, men are obsessed. The Lesbian sub is literally a porn sub. The question is very clearly about personality. It’s not about sexual attraction based on looks. Or sexual pleasure. Or who we fantasise about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 08:02 PM
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What? Obviously the guy isn’t going to get pussy, too busy being angry on the internet. But women have options.
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 08:00 PM
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Why do straight men have an obsession with lesbian’s sexuality? Yes, I knew he was a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 07:34 PM
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He had a pretty face. Some might say he was feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:53 PM
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Yes! And I’m a lesbian. I’m also an autistic geek and this part was obviously more dominant. We were studying for a clinical microbiology exam and his unbelievable knowledge on the subject made me attracted to him. Turned out he just had a photographic memory and was reading of images of textbooks in his mind. The facade got me for a bit though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:38 PM
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It’s certainly not about weight, my BMI is 18. I’m not going to give you details but I do discuss my time on these subs with my therapist because I’m a grown up with emotional maturity. How about you? How are you with self reflection? If you’re attempting to insult women online there’s gotta be some story there and my guess is you can’t even identify the reason let alone sit with a therapist and psychoanalyse yourself.
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 05:53 PM
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Are you sure you want the full story? It’s for much better reasons than “I cant get laid” which seems to be the Blackpill logic.
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 05:43 PM
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Well make sure you have a prenup before marrying any of them.
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 02:21 PM
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Sorry it feels that way. Getting it via negative attention won’t fulfil you though.
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 02:15 PM
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Sorry to bring this sad news to you, but there is a solution to the sub-par men vs loneliness dilemma… eat pussy. Works well for me.
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 02:14 PM
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Not getting enough female attention today?
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 02:07 PM
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It’s a simple pleasure. And easily done.
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 02:02 PM
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Neither do they what?
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 01:50 PM
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Do you actually know anything about domestic abuse? The power & control wheel? Cycle of abuse? The concept of love bombing? Suffice to say these men are not spouting misogynistic crap while trying to court a woman.
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 11:26 AM
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Ah yes because every woman walks in to a relationship knowing it’s going to be violent. How old are you right now OP? Also how is your relationship with your mother? Was she single when she raised you?
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 07:14 AM
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LOL. I probably get more pussy than you.
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 06:18 PM
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Okay just to clarify- you realise The Matrix is a metaphor for being ttrans?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:17 PM
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Hi can anyone answer this for me - what pill am I? What exactly is BluePill? I know people say normal dating practices but I’m autistic and I don’t know what’s normal. I’m definitely not Red or Black Pill. I am a feminist. I definitely don’t think men should be paying for dates but I get the impression Blue Pillers do think they should pay? I’m really stuck on this paying for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:01 PM
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Increase in violence against women.
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 09:41 AM
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“If you want my personal advice” no, no we don’t. We will take our advice from people who have actually lived it. Your characterisation of this whole situation is so warped, I’m curious to know your credentials wise sage?
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 07:07 AM
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Ah, well it’s a good thing plenty of straight women replied and debunked your theory then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 08:18 AM
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How do you think we differ? Obviously the preference is different, but the capacity to be one aroused is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:04 PM
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Autism being a diagnosis made by a medical doctor will hopefully be laughable in the next 50 years or so.
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 03:33 PM
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His face isn’t particularly objectionable. Im wondering if the guys who think he’s average are the same ones who complain women’s standards are high? Doesn’t make sense to me. He’s clearly above average in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:17 PM
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Facial hair isn’t something that generally puts women off… apart from weird moustaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:14 PM
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The problem is with your definition that of abuse. You don’t recognise it. Maybe you grew up in an abusive household? The behaviours identified now as unacceptable are so because they have tangible negative effects on the victim. Examples: depression & eating disorders. The Red Pill seems concerned about these things when they harm men, but not when they harm women. Why? Don’t you think society should react to problems like depression and eating disorders? I’m also interested in what you think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 12:25 PM
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Can’t work out if you want answers from lesbians or not? Simple answer - no we don’t always require the other person to be turned on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 12:12 PM
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I can understand why that would feel really confusing to you. I know it’s probably not what you want to hear, but it is common. That doesn’t mean there’s nothing to it at all. If your face was an issue you wouldn’t be on the date in the first place. There might be something happening but I do think it’s common and sometimes we underestimate how much rejection is about the person doing the rejecting rather than the one being rejected. With the second one who ghosted you, I actually feel that soun…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 12:09 PM
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As an autistic person I experience other autistics as having good social skills whereas neurotypicals are highly inappropriate- they force eye contact with people they don’t know well which is intrusive & threatening, they are incapable of communicating directly, they are preoccupied with context to make meaning out of language, rather than actually processing all the words in the sentence. Autistic people make adjustments constantly to survive in the NT world. We are already doing it. NTs need …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:53 AM
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Hard disagree! Not just on the principle (we shouldn’t have to hide who we are) but also more worryingly research shows masking is associated with increased suicidal behaviours, depression and anxiety. I’ve experienced this first hand. We make constant adjustments to the NT environment that we cannot avoid, NTs are not forced to make any such changes. Because I view autistics as having equal rights to a good quality of life as NTs, it is only logical that the NTs will have to make adjustments.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:49 AM
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I’m autistic. I’m not going to use the phrases “High functioning” or “Asperger’s” because they’re offensive, but I am sure people would use those terms to describe me. A lot of what you said is very true. It’s so sad. The solution is to fix the neurotypicals, not the autistics. They need to make adjustments to make space for us and stop bullying us. We need lots of spaces without them. So autistic only schools for example so people can complete their education without being bullied by neurotypic…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:08 AM
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Quite content with how I spend my time.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 05:01 PM
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Have you considered practicing kickboxing to let some of this anger out? It seems like you’ve got a lot of unprocessed rage.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 04:55 PM
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Okay. Well no, the study is not saying other things are “bullshit”. Please see my copy and pasted reply below. There are some glaringly obvious issues here. Where are the declarations about conflicts of interest? This sample size is tiny! Not only is it tiny the actual speed dating sessions were even smaller. For you to direct me to this study without commenting on that very obvious limitation tell me you don’t understand how significant this is. The study demonstrates (as expected) that initial…
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 07:51 PM
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Okay I’ve read the first and written my thoughts down, saved in the notes on my phone. Since the OP asks about why people think you’re misinterpreting these studies - I need to know your interpretation. Then I’ll post the response. I’m not going to go through the other study now because it takes time and frankly, I’m not spending that amount of time trying to “prove” anything to you (my science degree has proven my own ability to me) I don’t care if you think I’m bluffing. But I do want to help …
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 07:06 PM
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The first two examples are both on physical attractiveness- are those the ones you are referring to? What’s your interpretation of them? Like what is it they say that “proves” your Blackpill theory?
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 06:22 PM
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What a cop out response. When you refer to “studies” what exactly are you referring to?
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 05:26 PM
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Erm… I thought the complaint from most guys on this sub is women’s looks standards were too high?? I think you are seriously underestimating how unattractive it is to be treating your wife like a parent/maid.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:10 PM
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Why are Americans so racist? What’s wrong with interracial couples? I can confirm Arizona is weird about this. 16 years ago before I accepted my sexuality I had a boyfriend from Arizona. He was black. Originally from UK where I am. I used to go and stay the whole visa waiver and we got so many dirty looks from old people (often black women). Meanwhile in the UK literally nobody bats an eyelid. There’s stories of American soldiers in WW2 trying to get English pubs to segregate based on race and o…
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 11:20 AM
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Do you really need us to explain the flaws of pop evolutionary psychology to you? If you do then you shouldn’t be quoting science at all. It’s beyond you. Go learn some science.
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 09:52 AM
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Men are notoriously easy to fuck. You can’t compare, testosterone levels are different. Quite possible the thought patterns you are having are specific to women. Would be interested in your relationship with your mother. I’m not saying all the psychological work is easy. It’s not. I’ve been in therapy for 6 years, twice a week. But you asked the question and I’ve given the answer.
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 06:02 PM
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Your dating troubles are a lot deeper than you realise. They are intertwined with thought patterns, core beliefs about yourself, attachment style etc. It’s not a case of simply getting advice shout dating specifically. You need to do the inner work to change/heal those thought patterns and beliefs before you even begin to think about dating strategy. Even the best dating game and “looks maxing” won’t work if the person believes deep down they’re unlovable.
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 02:43 PM
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LOLOLOL you feel entitled to strangers adding you on socials?? Wtf? Women are now doing something wrong by just existing. I add a woman on social media if we hook up.
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 02:39 PM
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1) Geography - your chances are dependent on how population dense your area is. 2) Limiting thought patterns (everyone develops them, no shame) that need to be worked on.
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 08:31 PM
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I’ll take that as a 0. Lesbians might not have masses of testosterone coursing through our veins… but plenty of us love casual sex.
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 03:53 PM
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How many women have you fucked this year?
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 03:47 PM
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Nobody ever said women hate it. Just got to spend 5 minutes in a lesbian bar to figure out that lots of women are horny af
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 03:39 PM
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Point 3: you’re either blind OR selectively not seeing everyone else. There’s definitely plenty of women (myself included) not wanting any guys to look at us or talk to us, or anyone for that matter, because we are focused “in the zone” on our training. For me the gym is me time. It cleans my brain when I’m feeling miserable. Don’t want anyone interrupting me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 01:13 PM
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How do “Reddit women” know what you look like?
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 08:54 AM
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Last year I was in sleeveless T’s that I bought from the men’s section. I have cargo shorts, and Pride stuff. Not usually fan of over rainbow stuff but I do have some.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:17 PM
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Hmmm I don’t want to incite violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:45 PM
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Maybe something I could do to stop them approaching me altogether? I got my septum pierced but it’s not helping as much as I’d hopedZ
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:30 PM
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More like guilty of being and insecure jealous idiot trying to control a woman who was well out of his league.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:39 PM
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Q4 AUTISTIC men: what’s the best way for someone to reject you? Like if you were talking to a woman and you’re interested, try to flirt etc… what’s the most gentle/sensitive way for her to reject you? I’m going somewhere where I got a lot of attention from men last year and didn’t know how to handle it. I try telling them I’m gay but then they just make inappropriate jokes fetishising it and still continue….. this is an all autistic place btw hence not interested in NT opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:36 PM
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And what was your rating?
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 04:30 PM
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Coercive and controlling behaviour is abuse. She’s not his property. He’s gross I’m so glad she published that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 10:20 AM
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This type of fear of intimacy is common. Unfortunately life does include emotional distress. Loved ones die, people move away, circumstances change suddenly. We cannot avoid sadness, but we can learn to tolerate it and enjoy all the positive experiences and emotions. Maybe talk with a therapist to help build your distress tolerance.
/r/AllPillDebate08/07/23 08:14 AM
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I prefer blondes. Idk why. Still get crushes on brunettes and red heads.
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 05:31 PM
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They can’t admit it because doing so would require them to admit vulnerability. The manosphere creators literally use cult & mlm tactics to pull them in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:13 PM
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I do have sympathy for them too. Even if they try their best to make it as difficult as possible to muster compassion.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 05:25 PM
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Did you find a relationship? I agree it’s self hatred. Hard not to hate yourself as an autistic growing up in an NT world. The type of therapy I have is fortunately long term (been going twice a week for 6 years) but the other thing that really helped me was connecting with other autistics. Validating one another’s experiences. I’m fortunate to have been able to do that.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 05:10 PM
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What do you mean by this? The reason I bring up the fact I’m a woman is because I believe that’s the reason you want to disagree with me and find something negative in what I’m saying. I wish I could show you pictures of heterosexual autistic couples I know but it would be rude to approach people and say “hey, can I use you as an example of an ugly autistic man who’s not single”. They exist. There is hope for you, even if you don’t feel it yourself right now.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 04:57 PM
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I’ve personally made a lot of changes in my local area to the way autistics are viewed and treated. Change will be slow and will inevitably bring a period of backlash, but it’s definitely possible to change attitudes just as attitudes to homosexuality and race have changed.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 04:54 PM
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You’re confused. Using examples is not comparing people’s autism. That would be more like comparing sensory needs and communication style. I’m simply saying that as per the main post it’s possible and I personally see a lot of it. I’m trying to expose you to different perspectives. There’s really nothing nefarious about that. I really get the impression you’re clutching at straws to be offended.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 04:46 PM
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This is so sad. Really highlights the need to protect vulnerable autistic boys from manosphere influencers. I know it might feel like you’ll never meet someone, but try to keep an open mind. The manosphere are just making money off you and exploiting you… as a result preventing you from having relationships. Maybe try therapy?
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 04:42 PM
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No sorry that’s not comparing one person’s autism to another. At all. It’s literally just saying don’t give up hope. Of course you’ve managed to twist that in to something problematic because I’m a woman and not red pill / black pill….
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 04:37 PM
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I don’t live in the USA. I just feel passionately about the topic. IDGAF what you think my motivations are.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 04:27 PM
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Where did you get the idea I’m comparing one person’s autism to another? My point - that there isn’t an absolute rule. Being autistic doesn’t mean you have to give up on dating altogether.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 04:26 PM
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Unlike RP men I don’t like to share studies unless I’ve read the whole thing and judge their methodology. I don’t have access to full papers on my phone. It is a well-known reality that women are body shamed in the media. I’ve put a range of different links below, although I know you won’t look at them because you just want to be engaging with me, you aren’t engaging in good faith. https://youtu.be/-Au62AcSDsw https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/explore-mental-health/articles/body-image-report-execu…
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 04:00 PM
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No I’m working in local government so it’s not a capitalistic venture.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 03:34 PM
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“You can’t just state all autistic women get abused”…. I didn’t. You added that in. Autistic women and men have different challenges with dating, and in the interest of maintaining balance (thus preventing sexist attitudes). Autistic men and women need to come together to fight the NT majority and achieve equal rights for autistics. This would - long term - solve many or the dating issues autistic people face due to a reduction of social stigma. I’m talking about autistic people specifically, no…
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 03:32 PM
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My whole argument doesn’t rest on that. It was simply an example. You can deny reality if you wish. Doesn’t bother me …
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 02:15 PM
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Oh god don’t even try it. I have a pretty in depth knowledge of autism. I train people on it all the time. Keep your ignorance to yourself.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 02:14 PM
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The link you gave isn’t specific to autism. I’m not saying it’s easy, I’m saying the attitude is the nail in the coffin that guarantees you won’t have success. As for autistic women - they end up getting abused. It’s not all rosy.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 02:13 PM
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I understand being mad, the world is very unfair to autistics. Have you tried posting in general autism subs? I started going out clubbing in my 30’s. I could count on one hand the amount of clubs I had been to before then. If you live to 70 you still have 40 years left. I’ve been stuck at various points in my life. But things really can change. Maybe just start by working out how much you would need to save. Change is soooo hard and for me it’s only really happened when it was forced due to cir…
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 01:55 PM
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Well that’s your personal sample. Trust me there’s a lot who are most definitely not getting laid due to looks.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 01:51 PM
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Well there you go, you can see now that not everyone is in an identical situation to you. Therefore you don’t need to dismiss my experience as untrue. If I were you I’d be focusing my energy on working and saving up to move. But also try to connect with autistic people in nearby towns while you’re doing that. Honestly the manosphere is not going to help you in this, it’s holding you back. Focus your energy on finding a plan to move.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 01:35 PM
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Oh dude you still don’t get it. Nobody is saying it’s easy. I’m simply saying that a defeatist attitude won’t get you anywhere.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 01:32 PM
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I don’t think anyone is saying it’s generic. I’m simply saying it is true that there are some autistic people in relationships.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 01:30 PM
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“I know some autistic people have no issues dating but you can’t expect that to be the case for everyone”. Go back to my comment, you can clearly see I have acknowledged that dating is hard for autistics. I agree autistics are better with other autistics. I might settle for someone with ADHD but neurotypicals are but on my radar as people I’ll date/have relationships with. Only ONS.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 01:29 PM
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I can’t take you seriously when you are saying things are “fucking retarded”. If BuzzFeed is such trash (I’m not saying it’s a good news source, but it suffices for this post) then try reading The Beauty Myth by Naomi Wolf.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 01:24 PM
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I am not denying those statistics… I literally give talks where I quote that stuff. But change is possible, it needs to be active. For a long time I complained a lot but didn’t try. I wasn’t active in changing my situation. I definitely know lots of autistic people! It a lie and pretty sad you think that. Not everyone has the same circumstances which means they won’t have the same experiences. I live in a big city in a liberal country. I’m guessing you live in the states? Or somewhere that the p…
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 01:14 PM
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They’re not chads. They just embrace their awkwardness and socialise with equally awkward geeks. I’m autistic and have lots of autistic friends. Yes autism makes dating difficult but it’s you attitude that makes it impossible for you. You convince yourself it can’t/won’t happen so you don’t even try.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 12:57 PM
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What? What about BuzzFeed. Are you trying to say none of these things happened? That the media don’t constantly body shame women? Or are you just trying to dismiss and discount the facts so you can stay in your fantasy land that women have no reason to be self-conscious about appearance?
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 12:52 PM
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This is common. In my social circle all kinds of autistic people are getting laid, often with multiple partners. Honestly the difference between them and you guys is that they haven’t fallen down the RP or black pill rabbit hole and therefore they approach socialising with an open mind.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 11:42 AM
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This sub and PPD are not men’s spaces. They are spaces for gender relations to be discussed.hence the use of “all” in the name of this sub. But yeah, of course there’ll be men on feminist subs and feminists on RP subs.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 08:26 AM
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Lol, do you think women are wanting relationships from Tinder? The app is notorious for hookups. Women aren’t there for a relationship, they’re there to fuck. Lots of people see this as a mutual exchange type thing. Lots of men are not thinking of these women as “sluts” or thinking there’s something wrong with them. They are thinking they’d like to have sex so they connect with a woman who also wants to have sex and it’s all very equal with no power imbalances of degradation necessary. The stuff…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:20 AM
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My experience is that when I go on a night out (always to lesbian Cerberus parties) it often just happens. Start dancing and go from there. I drink and use cannabis but no hard drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:10 AM
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It’s not quite attention I get out of it but close. You get a 5/10 in your armchair psychologist test.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 05:42 AM
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If she makes you “jump through hoops” and then I’d a starfish she’s just not that in t you. Basic logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:43 PM
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It’s basically asking if you want to have sex with someone who also wants to have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:41 PM
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This pretty much answers my question about whether I should post a TikTok of myself rapping the wonderful lyrics of Brooke Candy “eat my pussy at my funeral”…. I’ll get the tripod set up.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 04:50 PM
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This comment comes across as attention seeking.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 04:48 PM
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The media body shames women. Boyfriends/husbands often body shame their partners. Family body shame female members. https://www.buzzfeed.com/morgansloss1/female-celebrities-body-shamed-by-media
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 04:47 PM
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I’d be more concerned that something is wrong with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:15 PM
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No, they go on dates intending to split the bill and meet someone who actually wants to get to know them, a potential relationship, rather than just wanting sex out of them. If he refuses her offer to split and insists on paying then he’s just looking for sex and therefore he’s fair game.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:04 PM
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Indeed. It’s a huge safeguarding issue in my local area. They essentially get groomed by online influencers. It’s horrible. I actually joined this sub because as part of my work with autistic youth we are trying to find ways to protect our autistic boys from this. Things are much worse in USA because their attitude towards autism means they routinely traumatise autistic kids and their mental health is understandably appalling. If anyone has suggestions on how to help autistic boys avoid this let…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:30 PM
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“Women think if a guy pays its because he’s a gentleman who is willing to spend money on them”…… no they don’t. They think he’s trying to sleep with them. And if he’s willing to pay for a date in exchange for sex he’s fair game to be taken advantage of. Why do you think women think he’s a gentleman? I’ve seen so many stories of times women tried to pay, men insisted woman keeps pushing saying she will pay, he refuses…. and then when she doesn’t sleep with him he’s outraged. I even saw one post w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:22 PM
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Sorry to hear the nt world has treated you so poorly that you feel that way. It’s a normal feeling to have, but unless we fundamentally change attitudes to neurodiversity there will be lots more people in the future feeling the same way. There’s nothing wrong with visually stimming. I feel bad for NTs because they be getting themselves mighty stressed out and they don’t have stimming as an option to soothe them. I stim in public and so do my friends. Schools in my area are introducing stim tools…
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 07:36 AM
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Do you mean this sub has or the website Reddit. If you’re just talking about the sub…. The clue is in the title.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 09:42 PM
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So they can live fulfilling lives and have equal rights. First let’s acknowledge that you’ve moved the goalposts. You are now adding in the word “severe”, where you weren’t previously. To me “severe” means - the environment around them is severely harmful to them. These individuals can live rich happy lives. Trying to change the person is not only unethical - it doesn’t work. There are no “cures”. The USA uses ABA, which is not used here in the UK. In fact my local education authority has a stat…
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 03:18 PM
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We change the environment and the way we treat them. That is what cures the distress. This is what I train people to do. I’m interested in this discussion and willing to educate if you’re engaging in good faith… but my daughter just got home and I need to pay her some attention but I will come back in a bit.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 03:00 PM
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I work with autistic people. It’s literally my job. I’m also autistic myself. Do you really think you know more than me? I train social workers, teachers, healthcare staff etc. I have spoken to non verbal autistic adults who are considered to have “severe autism” (yes, they can use augmentive and alternative communication methods to communicate). They know what they want to say, they are intelligent and aware, but their brain cannot coordinate with the vocal chords to produce the words. Now imag…
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 02:49 PM
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You are so uneducated on this issue. I have a kid who would have been one of the people you’re talking about. She was non verbal until 6 years old, in nappies (diapers) until 5 and a half, had huge meltdowns so o couldn’t leave the house. She’s 15 now and in a special school. She has learning difficulties and is working academically around what’s expected of an 8 year old. She talks in full sentences now and is more independent than I ever thought she would be. What changed when she was 5 that s…
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 01:14 PM
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Fuck off. Socialise less and spend more time engineering. While you’re out there gossiping about the weather and Janet next door the autistics will be over here doing meaningful shit like inventing vaccines and whistleblowing when big corporations are fucking people over
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 01:04 PM
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A pill to make autism go away would be DISASTROUS for the world. It really would be. You need to go educate yourself before you start mentioning such disgusting ideas.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 01:03 PM
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A medical issue? … it’s not though. Unless you mean how essential autistic minds are to medical research? It’s absolutely essential for the world to function as it does. You wouldn’t be reading this without autistic minds. Meanwhile neurotypical have deficits in their ability to see details, spot patterns, understand systems, they are fixated on “the bigger picture”, they are socially inappropriate for example making eye contact with people they don’t know which is rude and overly intrusive or w…
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 12:57 PM
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Stop conflating the blue pill (or women for that matter) with autistics. It’s not because they are BP or women…. It’s because they are NEUROTYPICAL and therefore have no empathy for autistics. I’m a feminist, not RP at all, and a woman. But I am autistic and I totally understand how hard it is for autistic men and why they resort to RP. I know it’s not that easy to socialise. The world is shit for autistics. I started hanging round these subs actually to gather an understanding of why the autist…
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 12:48 PM
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That’s a very absolute statement and you’ve got no way of verifying that as factual. The reason they won’t be vulnerable isn’t about men on this sub, it’s about toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 09:27 PM
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I’m on a phone and on my way out so can’t quote. I can say as an eating disorder peer support worker that men doing this stuff has actively contributed to many people’s eating disorders. It absolutely has there’s no question. You also need to remember that not every fat person will always be fat, and not every skinny person was skinny. That is to say - LOTS of people yo-yo between the two. I’ve met many women who developed EDs after being fat shamed by nasty boyfriends, or being bullied for bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:50 PM
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Most of society doesn’t know that the majority of people with eating disorders are NOT underweight. But also, if someone is complaining about and degrading overweight women they are promoting eating disorders even if they concede that being underweight is dangerous. Objectifying women and insulting them on appearance actively encourages eating disorders. So if someone is continuing to do those things yet saying EDs are dangerous, they almost exclusively mean severe restrictive EDs where they rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:35 PM
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Definitely, I did a more detailed reply further down saying it needs to be discussed but I also pointed out people might agree to things prior to children because they don’t know how they will feel/how hard it will be. If the parent staying at home isn’t getting their needs (adequate rest) met then I would expect in a healthy relationship the other party would respond to that need being expressed, even if they agreed prior to kids that one would work away a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:26 PM
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Not true. You’re a victim of cognitive bias. I’m not going to tell you about all the serious topics (politics, feminism, philosophy) women discuss because you won’t believe me … instead I’ll share the less flattering ones that you’re more likely to be receptive to. Just to clarify to feminists reading this… don’t worry I know women aren’t this shallow, but red pill men won’t listen if we say serious topics. They’re more likely to concede if it’s unflattering to women. Neurotypical women: bitch t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:13 PM
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It is aesthetics, I think the OP is saying they just need to be honest about that rather than pretending it is health.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:57 PM
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And they absolutely use cult like manipulation tactics to hook these men in. Try telling this to red pill men though… to admit to themselves they’ve been scammed and taken advantage of by RP influencers means they are admitting some vulnerability.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:56 PM
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This is hypothetical because I have one kid and not having more, but I personally wouldn’t start a family with a military person, long haul trucker or working on an oil rig either. I understand some jobs require travel, and obviously if you are literally setting up the conference you can’t miss it, but if you have children and it’s for additional learning and optional I think there would need to be a balance and potentially some compromises. The partner going away would definitely need to accomm…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:52 PM
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So most homes then. How does it work out in practice do you immediately start asking people deep personal questions about their childhood on the first date? Interesting how you have put “infidelity” above abusive homes. Biggest red flag to me is lack of self-awareness and introspection. I wouldn’t date anyone who hasn’t had, have or planning to have therapy. Most of us have issues. The willingness to engage in therapy and work on things is key to personal development. People who claim they don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:36 PM
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That’s an odd response to my comment since I didn’t accuse you or anyone else of being a fatphobe. Lots of men are attracted to women who are not in the normal range but dangerously underweight. *source, I used to weigh 73lbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:29 PM
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I say this as a feminist, very much NOT red pill. Yes it’s for work, but it’s still a break! It’s more restful than being at home*. That’s my experience of going away for work and my sisters too. They look forward to it. It’s an opportunity to have a child-free evening in a hotel room without having to wash up and get woken through the night or at woken at 5am with a child demanding ice cream for breakfast. ETA more restful than being at home *if you have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:24 PM
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I don’t think there is a finite amount, I think the key is about expectations in relationships and communication around that. When you have children one partner travelling can take quite a toll, especially if this hasn’t been discussed before. Even then, first time parents tend to underestimate how difficult parenting solo is so they might agree ahead that one partner travels a lot, but don’t realise how exhausted they’ll actually be when left holding the baby. The key here is respecting one ano…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:17 PM
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Not only that…. Many of these guys are also attracted to unhealthily thin/underweight women who aren’t even menstruating. They will say promoting health of obese people is “toxic” but don’t seem to care about restrictive eating disorders which happen to be the most deadly form of mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:12 PM
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I’m an autistic woman and I truly understand how difficult it is socially. Please make the distinction though between neurotypicals and women because a lot of stuff that neurotypicals say gets conflated with things women say. But the reality is neurotypical men often say that stuff too. Now when it comes to socially awkward shy women generally the only relationships they can get (bare in mind I’m lesbian but used to date men and have always been above average attractiveness) are relationships wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 03:33 PM
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You’ve correctly identified that TRP is lying. This isn’t the only thing that’s untrue. What’s sad is not all boys men realise is BS. Women who are having lots of reckless sex usually are having mental health issues or it’s ADHD. Women do often have a “slutty phase” that lasts a year or so but for most women it’s nothing like the numbers you’re quoting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 03:19 PM
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TRP preaches “accountability” but in reality blames women for everything. Out of interest which country are you in? I’m surprised to hear about the conversation at your work. It’s not something you’d get away with where I live. These women seem to be affected by toxic masculinity. We didn’t reach the bit in the conversation where men are harmed by black pill. Here’s the issue - it makes men believe they have no hope when they do have hope. It’s a limiting ideology. Sure it’s more difficult for s…
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 03:08 PM
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TRP preaches “accountability” but in reality blames women for everything. Out of interest which country are you in? I’m surprised to hear about the conversation at your work. It’s not something you’d get away with where I live. These women seem to be affected by toxic masculinity. We didn’t reach the bit in the conversation where men are harmed by black pill. Here’s the issue - it makes men believe they have no hope when they do have hope. It’s a limiting ideology. Sure it’s more difficult for s…
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 03:08 PM
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Well aside from the fact it promotes the idea that how you behave with / treat women is irrelevant, the people who identify as black pill share memes and say disgusting misogynistic bullshit. On PPD when they do Purge Week all the worst memes are from blackpillers… to the point not even red pill guys don’t want to be associated with it.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 02:39 PM
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“Cockblocking” a drunk homeless guy who’s minimum in his 50’s from harassing a girl who couldn’t have been older than 15…. You’re sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 08:22 AM
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You sound like you’ve been indoctrinated. You’re believing these extremes and taking them very literally. But you’re completely failing to acknowledge the ways in which toxic masculinity contribute to poor mental health in men.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 08:19 AM
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Several times a week. I’m in a big city. Almost got attacked by a guy once for protecting a teenage girl he was hassling.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:44 PM
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It’s a bit selective in the patterns it acknowledges don’t you think?
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 08:42 PM
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Can you see how your response demonstrates a refusal to listen? Just as you are accusing women of doing? It’s not even just women you’re refusing to listen to. It’s other men. Men who have spoken about how toxic masculinity caused them mental health problems. You say black pill isn’t harmful to women - it absolutely is. I can’t believe that you don’t see that. You can’t speculate on men’s mental health centuries ago, but if you are talking about recent increases in men’s suicide rates - both men…
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 08:14 PM
0

I’m not sure that’s true. It’s normal for humans to condemn things that would actively harm them - as many RP and BP* ideas do to women. Any group will shut down an ideology if it actively devalues them and causes them harm. So if you understand toxic masculinity do you understand that the reason men are so depressed is the patriarchy? Like when you bring up the male suicide rate are you aware that is because they are taught to be “stoic” and keep their feelings hidden/show no vulnerability? ETA…
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 07:52 PM
-6

I’m doing this on a phone so excuse the formatting of quote but |You don’t ever see them discussing or trying to figure out why men act the way they do, good or bad, or what makes a man’s mind work. Often they hand wave it away with “toxic masculinity” or “patriarchy” or whatever| Do you understand the profound irony of this statement? People spent a lot of time trying to work out why men act the way they do. The answer is toxic masculinity and the patriarchy. Have you ever actually read about t…
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 07:29 PM
2

Well… he did. You’ve got to be pretty foolish to believe it.
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 02:28 PM
3

I’m not denying footballers fuck a lot…. But this dude is lying. He literally said this to someone while raping them. If it was true and he started having sex when he was 14 he would have to bang between 13-14 women a week every week since age 14 to get close to this number. This kind of delusion of grandeur is typical of a narcissist.
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 02:26 PM
1

Why are you saying “autistic lesbian” like it’s an insult? I am 36 now, unfortunately I did have a relationship with an American guy. I used to go and stay for the 3 month visa waiver, be home for a few weeks and go back. So I was hanging out with his friends etc. I’ve got quite a bit of experience with men. As far as never been to the states before…. My family had a second home in Florida so I’ve spent a whole lot of time there. Look how upset you are. That definitely means I’ve hit a nerve. Ti…
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 06:21 PM
1

It’s interesting that you perceived my advice on healing your ego as a “personal attack”, but then went on to attack me. Projecting much? Look dude, it’s okay to be vulnerable. It’s absolutely fine, all men have insecurities and such. Men on these subs often bring up the male suicide rate, and a huge part of that is that it’s been socially unacceptable for men to express vulnerability. So they keep it all locked up and eventually it gets too much. Manosphere stuff just perpetuates that and makes…
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 06:14 PM
-1

Your OP and mental gymnastics are telling me all I need to know about how this ties in to your ego. So if you’re saying my sisters are trying to “save face” …. They’re not dudes talking about this with one another. Why would they be embarrassed with their sisters? You must have some strange family dynamics my dude. Average guys have been fucking average (and even attractive) women for millennia. Just deal with it. Step away from the internet, get an irl therapist and start working on your emotio…
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 05:58 PM
-1

Lol why would they lie? One was boring in bed and never spoke with us about sex but when she finally got drunk and opened up we encouraged her to be more adventurous. Here’s the kicker - he’s the best looking one out of all 3! I hesitated about whether to include hun as average. Cognitive bias doesn’t affect me here because I am not emotionally invested one way or the other. My ego doesn’t depend on this type of belief - yours does.
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 05:20 PM
-2

Crikey you’re clutching at straws to avoid accepting how flawed this manosphere shit is. When women say this they’re not just referring to random a in the street, they are referring to friends, family & colleagues as well. Like literally everywhere there are average people, together, in perfectly fulfilling sex lives. 3 such men are with my sisters so I do know about their sex lives. They aren’t starfish. Same with my friends. Have you ever been to a kink/fetish party? Might be worth it to see t…
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 04:44 PM
1

Have you considered avoiding spaces where you’ll encounter feminists for a bit? When I’m fed up of TRP men I just disengage with the conversation completely for a bit. Nobody is forcing you to have interactions with feminists online.
/r/AllPillDebate28/06/23 07:40 PM
1

I think you’re hugely underestimating the diversity within feminism and the debates that go on between feminists about this issue. Some feminists are absolutely disgusting to sex workers. I also think you are overestimating the amount of feminists out irl. Possibly due to your encountering lots online. Overall society is still very much dominated by men, and women are still slut shamed while people congratulate men for being “players”. This is still the norm. The feminism you encounter online do…
/r/AllPillDebate28/06/23 07:37 PM
1

They really don’t
/r/AllPillDebate28/06/23 12:10 PM
0

They like the feeling not the sight. No need to apologise. I don’t get the impression from your attitude that you’ve got much to show off and offend people with so we’re good. Even het women don’t want to see it.
/r/AllPillDebate28/06/23 12:05 PM
1

Well it works as perfect eye bleach after disgusting grey sweat pants so whatever the reason I’m not complaining.
/r/AllPillDebate28/06/23 11:59 AM
0

Probably to distract from the disgusting sweaty men throwing weights on the floor, speaking incredibly loudly, huffing and puffing with a semi.
/r/AllPillDebate28/06/23 11:48 AM
1

Gross nobody wants to see that
/r/AllPillDebate28/06/23 11:24 AM
1

I’m glad you are engaging in my science lesson. Next questions which hormones are involved in regulating appetite and how are these modulated? Which other hormones are involved in regulating metabolism? Maybe we could throw in an essay question on the epigenetic causes of obesity? After that we will move on to psychology. What’s the treatment protocol for BED? Why do Europeans always gain weight when the visit America?
/r/AllPillDebate27/06/23 04:59 PM
3

Ah yes, women 20 years ago were so naive, they knew none of this pump and dump trick. I heard they didn’t have dating apps either. Simpler times. Hate to break it to you, but women are smart and have always been smart. Women were avoiding fuckboys in the 80’s just as they do these days.
/r/AllPillDebate27/06/23 04:40 PM
1

How do you explain all the men who report being turned off when a woman starts speaking and has a childish voice (and personality). Just because you see women as objects, doesn’t mean all men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:24 PM
1

You’re wildly underestimating how complex and frankly genius the human body is. Did you even do high school science? The amount of energy you use and the processes that trigger fat loss/gain and muscle loss/gain etc are all regulated by hormones. The human body can get away with using a very small amount of energy to get by if necessary. Often this metabolic adaption will happen following restrictive diets, when your body thinks food is scarce. It is absolutely possible for an overweight person …
/r/AllPillDebate27/06/23 04:21 PM
1

As someone with a bachelors in biomedical science that included a LOT of metabolic biochemistry I can confidently say - shut up.
/r/AllPillDebate27/06/23 03:50 PM
3

What? The quality of your sperm decreases with age meaning there’s more likely to be genetic mutations which often cause the parent to miscarry as many aren’t compatible with life. There’s a whole other host of medical problems which are more likely with advanced paternal age. In addition to this, men often lose the ability to get or maintain an erection with age. So that’s kind of a downer.
/r/AllPillDebate26/06/23 04:03 PM
1

What is “lie patriarchy”, assume that’s a typo. Why would someone need therapy because they acknowledge early childhood experiences affect adults? Or that an 18 year old knows a lot less than a 28 year old? You have suggested therapy but I get the impression you are only saying that because you associate therapy with some sort of mental deficit? I’m not sure exactly what your aim is, but my view is that people who avoid therapy are weak. People who are genuinely curious and willing to confront t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:25 PM
2

Funny how men always leave out the bit where their fertility decreases with age, and their partner’s risk of miscarriage increases with paternal age even if the woman is 25.
/r/AllPillDebate26/06/23 03:10 PM
1

Eek. Yes, I am aware that people need funding in order to conduct research…. That’s why I mentioned how sexist academia is. Because those with decision making power are male. With health I think this is one of those areas where you are misunderstanding the scale/pervasiveness of an issue. Issues within women’s healthcare are not restricted to issues of fertility or female anatomy - this issue is in everything. The study of all different types of diseases, medicines, medical devices etc The resea…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:31 PM
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As a shortcut I’d encourage you to go to the wiki page for “sexism in academia” and scroll to the bottom for the references. It’s a thing. It’s all very well and good studying social issues. I agree that’s very important. It’s also happening in response to a very real problem. By stating that women’s issues are well researched you are acknowledging that gender inequality is such a problem that there are lots of issues to study. Maybe men aren’t being studied because they don’t have issues (apart…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:55 AM
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To stay married to guys that treat them like shit? No. If they’re leaving the relationship, there’s a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:24 AM
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“Male loneliness and sexlessness is a problem. It’s a problem that’s been studied by major organisations and academic institutions”… and there you have … male privilege! It’s studied because men dominate academia. Women’s issues that are far more important than loneliness don’t get researched. Women are more concerned about this kind of inequality than we are about whether or not you are getting laid. If your main complaint is you aren’t getting the women you want then you’re fine. It’s not plea…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:20 AM
1

“You’re a woman so you wouldn’t understand men’s preferences”. Really? You think that I, as a lesbian, haven’t noticed that barely legal women can be very attractive ….. until they open their mouths. And you realise that mentally they are not a match due to maturity levels. Yes youth is beautiful, but it’s not the only type of beauty. Why do I assume men are trying to manipulate women? Not all are, but lots are. Manosphere influencers aren’t shy about sharing their manipulation tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:08 AM
2

I don’t think so. Because he says he feels bad afterwards. I think neurotypical a social behaviour is just gross in that they like to bond over a common enemy.
/r/AllPillDebate26/06/23 08:01 AM
2

Absolutely no idea. All I know is a lot of women don’t use them, and a lot of the ones that do don’t use them seriously. Like they might swipe on and off but they’re not arranging dates.
/r/AllPillDebate26/06/23 08:00 AM
1

Omg. The “sour grapes” thing. That’s low effort! It’s not that common for a person in an age gap relationship to be a movie star though. We are generally talking about oldies hitting on young women in their early twenties. Doesn’t TRP encourage “negging”? How are you going to act like this guy is innocent to trying to manipulate young women? It’s not hangout how sharp someone is. It’s about cultural influences (the patriarchy & fucking Disney). Young adults are often idealistic. They’re hunting …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:58 AM
1

No, but it sounds like he’s getting used though. He should get a prenup. Her supposed existence doesn’t change the fact that vulnerable young women get taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:52 AM
2

Which study is what? You just cannot trust RP men to accurately interpret a study, because they are so swayed by cognitive bias. They’ll only pick out what they want from the study. But it’s irrelevant anyway because the data is gathered from dating apps and therefore not valid because of the amount of fake profiles and the huge demographic of dating women who are not using apps.
/r/AllPillDebate25/06/23 02:53 PM
0

“Naive mindless children” -where are you getting this shit from? Such an odd way to characterise a really simple concept that the less experience someone has the less sharp they’ll be at weeding out the bad apples.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:50 PM
2

Some women are. There’s a whole lot of women who don’t though. And a LOT of bots.
/r/AllPillDebate25/06/23 02:48 PM
1

I’m not American. So there’s plenty of healthy BMI individuals in my country. I don’t understand why you are so keen to insist that it’s my size and not my skin/lack of wrinkles?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:03 PM
1

I am average sized, low perimeters of healthy BMI. I think it’s my skin and also energy. I get ID’d all the time when I go out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:34 PM
1

Yes. Data from dating apps is not an accurate reflection of dating behaviour because most women are not using dating apps to find partners, and there’s a fuck load of bots which will skew the data anyway. Secondly - most RP men have never actually done a science degree and haven’t got a clue how to read a research study critically, they’re literally just scrolling looking for “science” to back up their point or beliefs. They also don’t understand cognitive bias. So they’re just not capable of ac…
/r/AllPillDebate25/06/23 01:15 PM
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You do t sound angry at all
/r/AllPillDebate25/06/23 01:10 PM
0

It’s really not that easy to tell age based on looks. I am 36 and someone legit thought I was a teenager the other day. If this was true older guys would be going for women in their late twenties that look young, women who have the maturity to be an intellectual match. These guys don’t GAF what’s in her head, they just want someone they can make subordinate to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:09 PM
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Neurotypicals gonna neurotypical. Poor guy.
/r/AllPillDebate25/06/23 12:02 PM
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It’s where I met most of mine too, and I’ve got my own group on there now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:52 AM
2

Join social groups and activities. The Meetup app is good for these.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:10 AM
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How many times do we have to go over this? Older women disapprove of age gap relationships because the guy seeking them out is often looking for someone he can easily manipulate. It also indicates he cannot handle a woman who knows her own mind and is confident. It’s that simple. TRP is constantly wasting times trying to find elaborate alternative explanations. The older guys are intimidated by women who are self-assured. Just admit it. Stop projecting your insecurities on to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:08 AM
1

Which part of the internet is laughing at them? Because if it’s just angry misogynists I really don’t think they care….
/r/AllPillDebate25/06/23 10:03 AM
2

The best way I can describe it is like staring directly in to the sun. It feels intrusive and overly intimate. Just a very intense feeling when doing it, like staring in to a bright light or something. A lot of information about a person’s feelings is in their eyes and since autistics take in a lot more information than non-autistics it’s just quite overwhelming and too much.
/r/AllPillDebate24/06/23 06:24 AM
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If NTs are so intelligent why can’t they infer information from my indirect cues. It’s amusing to me that NTs throw around the “rigidity or thought” shit around because the reality is that they’re actually pretty damn rigid in their interpretations. They tend to adhere rigidly to social norms. They can often only ever see things from one perspective and seem to think you can only hold ONE view of something. If you express that you can see the benefits in more than one view/approach they scream “…
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 12:12 PM
1

“Low social IQ”? Excuse me. It’s my observation as an autistic person that NTs have a “low social IQ”. They are not capable of communicating directly, they are fixated on eye contact to the point of making autistic people extremely uncomfortable, they have no respect for other’s sensory needs, they’re overly reliant on cOnTexT to invent interpret what people are communicating to them. Instead of, idk, listening to the actual words in the sentence. Is it any surprise we autistics can’t seem to me…
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 11:24 AM
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“Low social IQ”? Excuse me. It’s my observation as an autistic person that NTs have a “low social IQ”. They are not capable of communicating directly, they are fixated on eye contact to the point of making autistic people extremely uncomfortable, they have no respect for other’s sensory needs, they’re overly reliant on cOnTexT to invent interpret what people are communicating to them. Instead of, idk, listening to the actual words in the sentence. Is it any surprise we autistics can’t seem to me…
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 11:24 AM
2

Lack of facial hair, short stature, not seeing much progress at the gym.
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 05:44 AM
1

Lol. How do you think fat accumulates? Here we are, this is put pretty simply. This is also very informative.
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 05:43 AM
2

It’s really not that easy. We aren’t all carbon copies. For example people who are born prematurely or at a low birth weight will forever struggle to stay slim because their body thinks it’s being born in to famine and therefore “switches on” the genes to slow metabolism and conserve energy. Dieting generally leads to more weight gain in the long term due to slowing of the metabolism. IF can lead to binge eating. BED is a big problem. There are just so many factors to consider. Low activity due …
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 06:49 PM
1

It’s not just about appearance, it can affect your bone density too. Definitely get checked. Good luck
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 06:26 PM
1

It’s not that easily controllable though. Especially not in USA. The way their portion sizes and food regs work has be convinced they actively encourage the population to get obese. Most Europeans gain a lot of weight when they visit the states.
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 06:25 PM
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I don’t know my pill colour… I’m a lesbian feminist though. I also have a degree in biomedical science. I think you should go to the doctor, get your testosterone levels checked and then potentially get prescribed some testosterone to top up your levels did. Therapy also. But I reckon you’ve got a deficiency in testosterone hence the lack of facial hair and height. It’s too late to grow height but you can gain muscle & facial hair.
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 06:07 PM
2

This is complete BS. Fat women are not coddled. They’re ridiculed or treated like they don’t exist. What you are referring to is a relatively recent reaction to the hate and discrimination that fat people face. Also - your TikTok algorithm is not real life.
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 05:49 PM
0

How do you think I hunger and satiety is regulated? Do you know what hormones are made of? Might need to take a science lesson.
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 05:47 PM
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Have you ever visited an eating disorders unit? Out of 20 patients there’s only ever one man at most whenever I’ve been in hospital. Often the male patients are gay. Women get so much more shit for being overweight. They are ridiculed & treated terribly.
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 05:45 PM
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I get that bit… I don’t get what it is that I said you think you are disproving by sharing the article? How does it make my comment “wrong wrong wrong”. Are you trying to suggest that because a woman has written an article it’s just fine for men to expect women to do all the body positivity campaigning on their behalf?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:01 PM
0

Mmmm. Very well thought out point you have there. Great deflection from your lack of logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:28 PM
1

How do you explain the gender discrepancy when it comes to eating disorders then? It’s pure fantasy to suggest that men are held to the strict beauty standards women are.
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 04:23 PM
2

I understand you think this article is proving my comment “wrong wrong wrong”, but I don’t quite see how. Can you elaborate? With support groups I wasn’t meaning around body image, around mental health stuff. It’s not just body positivity where men claim to be missing out while simultaneously not taking any initiative. It’s very normal to see guys on Reddit claim women have X advantage but when you dig deeper it’s because the women set this up for themselves. Happens irl too. Like my ex would co…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:38 PM
2

Are you just throwing false equivalencies round for fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:27 PM
1

Then don’t complain about the lack of body positivity with men then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:23 PM
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“No body positivity for dudes”…. So start a body positivity campaign for men. You can’t just sit about and wait for women to do it for you. All the gassing one another up and stuff RP men complain only happens to women is literally happening because women have stared it for themselves. You want the same? Start complementing your friends, sharing body positivity stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:04 AM
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This is what really annoys me - men will say “there’s no support groups for X in men” or “there’s no body positivity for men”…. Because you have to take the initiative and start it! It’s this expectation that women will organise the whole thing for them. Hangover from having mummy do everything for them I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:25 AM
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In USA they make it very difficult to stay slim. Your portions are gigantic. I’ve never seen anything like it. It’s a problem that needs intervention from the government. I’m at BMI of 18.6 but I’m pretty sure if I lived in USA I would be fat. Every trip there I gained weight. It is pretty much accepted in UK that a trip to the states is always accompanied by weight gain. I have conspiracy theories about this. I think they actually want you all to get fat so the pharmaceutical companies can make…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:56 AM
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Most RP men would call their fleshlights fat if it ran out of battery. It’s a knee jerk reaction to rejection. I do think fat women are treated much worse. It’s like this thing that RP men think they hold over women. Their “trump card”. I have to say I do feel for the US citizens when it comes to this. The food standards there are really poor, they’re allowed to put all sorts of harmful stuff in food. If you compare McDonald’s fries in UK vs US the ingredients list is wild. UK is potatoes, oil &…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:47 AM
1

You think that’s “humbled” a woman? She’s just going to post it on a tag group for people to rip you to shreds. Be careful.
/r/AllPillDebate21/06/23 11:21 AM
1

Would you consider those who end they’d own lives to be mentally ill? In order to get accurate statistics on mental illness you are requiring people to both acknowledge and disclose their mental health diagnoses. One of the big challenges with mental health issues is insight. LOTS of people do not recognise they have mental health issues, in fact a feature of the condition may be lack of insight. So unless they harm themselves or end up in the criminal justice system, they’re not diagnosed. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:07 PM
0

But what are you responding to?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 06:58 PM
1

The OP has broken logic? Sure…. Why are you using a hornets nest analogy to discuss gender relations?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:08 PM
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That’s odd. I see the sentence “women don’t owe men sex” a lot, but I’ve never seen the word “free” included. Sex with someone who is not attracted to you does cost money, you have to go to a sex worker for that. Sex with women who are attracted to you is absolutely free. I think where RP men get confused is they think women who are not attracted to them should sleep with them because apparently they “need” sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:54 PM
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So men don’t have “mental issues” then? You don’t? I struggle to see how anyone could get sucked down the RP hole and not have “mental issues”. It’s silly because it has the facade of “self improvement” but it’s on such a superficial level, and also absolves men of responsibility. It doesn’t matter how often you say “accountability”, if you are following it with “women are all manipulative, hypergamous, users” then you are placing the accountability on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:43 PM
2

You have women swarming round you like hornets?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:38 PM
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Mmmm, women aren’t stinging people like hornets though are they? What do you consider a the woman’s equivalent of a sting? Rejecting you? Not wanting to have sex with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:36 PM
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You’re really not helping your case with your very limited repertoire of sex moves there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:00 PM
2

It’s embarrassing how unaware you are that your replies are just announcing to the whole sub that you know nothing about sex and will be a terrible lover. Good luck when you find a het woman who can’t cum from penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:46 PM
0

We have a lot more in our repertoire than “tongue game”. You’re forgetting a few things - dicks are unreliable. You never know what size the guy will have. In my experience they bust after 3 pumps, and the guy thinks the sex is over because he came. So all that build up to nothing. Whereas a strap/double ended dildo stays hard, you can choose the shape and size. Use the double ended ones together. Men don’t have breasts or pussies and they’re straight up and down. Would you want to fuck someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:01 AM
1

Gay men still trying to satisfy that male gaze. Lesbians are free from it thank goodness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 06:58 AM
1

It’s not a dating sub it’s a debate sub. Discussing issues that affect women. Lesbians can participate all the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 06:56 AM
2

Mmmm, that essay doesn’t make you look jealous at all. Dude if you think all sex is is sticking the dick in and out then you are terrible at sex. Your wife is definitely gonna leave you for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 06:50 AM
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Posting this on a different sub doesn’t make the title any less of a contradiction
/r/AllPillDebate15/06/23 06:31 PM
2

If it makes you feel better to believe that be my guest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:28 PM
2

I’m interested in why you need to believe this bs? It’s illogical. But it obviously means enough to someone to create a meme about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:11 PM
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Tbh I would like to post photos of the women I sleep with on here, just to shut up the Red Pill dudes who assume lesbians are fat/ugly. I do have a pretty face, BMI is 18.7, work out 4 times a week (for mental health, not to be attractive), but I’ll never post a photo on Reddit because I want to stay anonymous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:44 PM
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How are you gonna contradict yourself in the title and then call women’s behaviour “toddler level”?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:36 PM
1

This is so cringe. How is this guy not embarrassed? I guess he’s playing make believe Freud, except he probably got his psychology degree from Hustlers University.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:15 AM
1

Yes I’m lesbian.
/r/AllPillDebate14/06/23 06:10 AM
-1

No, in fact I’ll be stealing all of your potential girlfriends.. sorry not sorry.
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 07:54 PM
1

I don’t know why you’ve tried to make ugly men relevant to this story. If she wanted to fuck a man she would fuck a non ugly one. Clearly she chose a dog…. Most likely for TikTok views. Could have been an ugly dog for all you know.
/r/AllPillDebate10/06/23 07:06 PM
1

I think it was a TikTok fame thing
/r/AllPillDebate10/06/23 07:03 PM
0

No not at all. I think the confidence of extroverted people makes them attractive. I’m considered quite typically attractive and I always got a lot of interest from men but I’m introverted and used to be very shy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 10:12 AM
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If your self-worth is dependent on your sexual appeal then it’s not developed. Confidence can absolutely be built but it takes work and self reflection. You need to actually go to therapy and do the work. Short ugly guys can be confident and aware of their strengths/worth while knowing they are not classically sexually attractive. Being sexually attractive doesn’t mean you’re confident. I am considered attractive to most and in my early twenties when I turned a lot of heads and had too much inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 05:06 PM
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Sorry to hear about the abuse your step-aunts are experiencing. The lack of response is because she knows if she argues back she will get a worse response. Would I submit to a rich man (or woman since I’m gay)? NO absolutely not. I don’t care if she looks like Emily Ratajowski, I’m not going to “submit” in a relationship. Submit to a man? Absolutely no way under any circumstances. I was quite subservient in my early years when I had male partners. Never ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:56 PM
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What a lot of men don’t understand is women choose well…. It’s just that the dude changes once he’s settled. They put on an act to get sex and lock down the woman. Often abuse starts in pregnancy or after marriage when he’s laid his claim to her. There is also the issue of generational trauma which RP men ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:50 PM
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“It’s a woman I own it I control it” is a common attitude of men. When faced with the reality that “it” is in fact a person who has had enough of them or is rejecting them - some of them kill.
/r/AllPillDebate07/06/23 01:44 PM
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Do you have a source for any these statements?
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 04:38 PM
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You’re saying these men are being coerced in to violence by women? With the dark triad there is various reasons women are attracted to it. They act super confident, they intentionally manipulate women, they feel familiar to people who grew up with such a man, the feeling in the pit on the stomach alerting to danger can be mistaken for “butterflies”.
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 06:37 AM
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Prove what indirectly? I presume you are going to go down the path of blaming men’s mental on women. I’m too tired to explain the dark triad thing. But it’s not because they think he’s going to kick anyone’s ass.
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 12:59 AM
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This is wildly simplistic. Do you have a wife and kids? I’m going to bed now but a few things to think about. What happens after she arrives at the shelter? Fo her and her kids just live there forever? Are you familiar with the tactic of isolation? If you read a post where someone says their boyfriend is trying to stop then spending time with their family or talking shit about their family would you even understand where that fits in to an abusive relationship dynamic? I feel like you’d be one o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:49 AM
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You didn’t answer the question - who is doing the killing? When women are attracted to dark triad guys they’re not thinking he’s going to fuck up all the people they hate. They think they’ve found someone special and superior and feel honoured to be associated with them…. Until they start mistreating them and turn out to be just another arrogant prick who believes his own hype.
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 12:40 AM
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Like I said to another person-. You can’t imagine them being concerned because you don’t get concerned about people so you have no experience of that. You have plenty of experience of jealousy, and that’s why you’re projecting that on to concerned women. I cannot stress enough how much “old” women do not give a fuck about dating creeps. They’ve got careers, interests, social lives. They’re not preoccupied thinking about men and their relationship status.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:31 AM
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No because they are financially dependent on him. So if he mistreats her it’s much harder for her to leave. They are trapped in the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:16 AM
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Talking about murder is never funny. Who murders all those men? Is it other men or is women?
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 12:14 AM
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He’s got science…. But probably no science degree. So he can very easily be dazzled by a manosphere influencer saying “I’vE gOt dAta”. He’s failed to look at the statistics of the problems affecting and therefore cannot use his common sense to conclude that men struggling to get pussy is relatively low on the list of global injustices.
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 11:27 PM
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What do you want statistical data of? Have you looked at the statistics regarding femicide? Scroll down to the statistics on that page. What is happening to men that is worse than that?
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 11:23 PM
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Are you really that naive that you have no insight in to this? Let me introduce you to the concept of algorithms. They direct you to content you are likely to be interested in. But algorithms don’t just work on computers. They occur in our minds in the form of cognitive bias. There’s a lot of women and a lot of men in the world. Of course your algorithm will find examples of the thing you are most interested in. You are not getting a balanced view of the world. There are adults these days who gr…
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 11:21 PM
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It is a reflection of one of the major issues feminists have with the patriarchy - women are blamed and held accountable, whereas men are excused and given a free pass. Women are treated more harshly and come under more criticism. Examples include victim blaming - a man could have 4 victims, but if we are focusing on what each of those victims “did wrong” we aren’t going to stop him victimising more people. Man might cheat and, historically (not that long ago) it would be commonplace to immediat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:29 PM
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That’s because your point is inconsistent and hypocritical. You have still avoided responding to my actual point. If you cannot hold the argument without misquoting me then why are you even trying?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:55 PM
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I think the issue here is that you are trying to make sense of it within the framework of your own values and experiences. Perhaps you don't have experience caring about the safety of others, so you don't believe others do. Instead you rationalise it by claiming it's jealousy, since that's something you are familiar with?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:53 PM
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In that case, everyone is vulnerable This is true. We are all vulnerable in various ways. Some people are more or less vulnerable than others in any given circumstances based on their individual experiences, beliefs etc. ​ Can you tell me, what exactly is the point of and great strength in acknowledging vulnerability? What does it change? It informs your risk analysis when making decisions. You can't protect yourself from something if you are not aware you are particularly vulnerable to it. ​ Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:00 PM
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True, but the we risk avoiding something which can turn out to have been a great experience. That is, just because some number of women had bad experiences in age gap relationship, does not in any way mean that the same amount of women would. Life is a continuous balancing act of risk and reward. What you are willing to take risks on will depend on your values and experiences. I personally believe there are many people out there who we can have great experiences with and I would consider abusive…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:44 PM
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“So you’re saying a richer man should let a poorer woman stay poor if they are married?”…. No not at all. That’s not what I’m saying. Why do you keep trying to alter my words. It’s a sign you are trying to make my point harder to defend. I didn’t read your point about strength difference but I guess you were just making another observation about a potential power imbalance and trying to invent opinions I have about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:10 PM
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When it comes to things that are objectively dangerous and damaging - we can easily learn from others experiences. If we didn’t we wouldn’t survive as a species because we would all be making the same stupid mistakes. Unfortunately we do need to witness people making stupid mistakes, or be taught in advance of the warning signs which inevitably will have been identified because of someone else’s misfortune. What’s interesting here is that there’s so much focus on the women. What about the men wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:45 PM
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Who you think I “should” be dating is irrelevant here. If you don’t think a 26 year old and 36 year old could possibly have anything in common then that’s your problem. Go live life a bit. I choose 26 because of maturity of frontal lobes. I actually slept with a 28 year old a few weeks ago. She was really hot. Are you gonna send me to jail?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:26 PM
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Where did being “leading authority” come in to it? A question was asked on a debate reddit and I’ve answered it. I haven’t always been a 36 year old woman. I was once a 21 year old woman in a relationship with a man. Not just that… I have women friends and siblings. I’ve seen a lot of people get hurt, I’ve done courses on healthy relationships. For your hypocrisy claim - no I absolutely do not give 21 year old me the benefit of doubt when it comes to being easily led by manipulative men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:20 PM
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That’s a very absolute statement you’re making. It’s clearly not what I said. You’ve correctly identified that there is a power imbalance where there’s a huge disparity between finances. That doesn’t mean they “shouldn’t” be together but the power imbalance needs to be discussed and she needs to maintain financial independence. He should certainly not coerce her to sacrifice her financial independence for him - e.g. telling her not to work because she doesn’t “have to”.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:06 PM
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“Well it’s easy for me to assume that all gay women as a minority under the lgbt flag have the same beliefs”… how is it easy? That’s very obviously illogical, nonsensical and offensive. No I absolutely don’t think all have the potential to exploit young women. The ones who actively want to are likely to choose younger women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:26 PM
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First you need to stop using the term “break heart”, perhaps something more apt would be “break someone’s spirit and cause them lasting trauma”. Age gap isn’t the only thing that’s a red flag that someone might do that. There are other things that red flags even in age matched relationships and there’s no preference of calling out she gap over any of those things. I’m really surprised so many people cannot see the very basic logic here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:20 PM
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No that’s not what I’m saying. I used that example to demonstrate that jealousy isn’t influencing my view on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:06 PM
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What happens on someone’s 18th birthday that causes them to become less vulnerable? Is it like you unlock a level of a game and new features are available or something? Adults are worthy of protection. It’s ludicrous to suggest otherwise. Who is the judge of predatory? Do we need a judge? There’s various reading you can do on dynamics of predatory relationships and the tactics people use.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:04 PM
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You know what’s really funny though…. Lesbians are not a monolith. We don’t all have the same mind with the same thoughts and morals. Wild isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:52 PM
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I should have used a different word in my original comment because actually protecting these women isn’t possible. Young women do need protection from predatory older men though. The logic being basic human decency. I can’t imagine having the kind of mindset where you don’t want to protect vulnerable people from being hurt and exploited.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:51 PM
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How is that relevant to the discussion on age gap relationships? Most relationships are NOT age gap relationships so it’s logical most people who are hurt in romantic relationships are more closely age matched. This is pretty basic logic,
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:47 PM
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So all the women who complain about sexual harassment and unwanted sexual advances…? They after aTteNtIon as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:45 PM
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You’re trying to distract from addressing the issue at hand. Which is that your theory that women are “jealous” is wrong. 24 is very different to 19/20. My lower limit is 26 these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:24 PM
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What? How are you introducing protection in to this? It’s not the same thing as concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:18 PM
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Why do you think women care about being attractive to men? Or attractive at all….
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:16 PM
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That’s not relevant to the issue of women being “jealous” of women who end up with older men. If you want to go there then use me as an example. I personally am 36, I’ve turned down early twenties women for hookups due to their age. I don’t need to be “jealous” of anyone because I don’t seem to have a problem picking up younger women. But I always ask age before doing anything further than kissing. I did once date a very hot 24 year old when I was 34 but she was emotionally immature and too need…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:13 PM
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The result of the power imbalance is it is easier to “break someone’s heart” if they’re 20 and you’re 30, than if you’re both 30. This is because one of the things that attracts younger women to older men is that they seem to be confident and know about the world. This will mean they are much more easily led and doubt themselves a lot more than a 30 year old would, or age matched partners would.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:57 PM
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Nobody is saying being under 30 means the guy isn’t trash. I think probably there are more trashy guys in their early twenties. The issue with age difference is the power imbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:43 PM
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I’m convinced a lot of the men who are claiming women in early twenties are not vulnerable are themselves late teens/early twenties and think they’re as mature as older adults - therefore they cannot accept that people in their young twenties can be vulnerable. I don’t see any other explanation for them not understanding the very simple concept that time = knowledge and knowledge = power. The men who say older women are “jealous” are overestimating how much older women care about interest from c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:33 PM
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Doesn’t guarantee a spell of anti-manipulation, but it increases the chances you have learned from experience and gained self confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:27 PM
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How do you explain lesbians who are concerned? Lesbians don’t want men. They’re certainly not jealous. So…. Doesn’t it make more sense that they’ve seen a lot of people hurt and want to protect them from that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:24 PM
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People learn from experience. It can take years to learn signs of a manipulative person. Not to say young manipulative guys are fine - they’re not. But they are likely to have less influence than an older guy who has practised his manipulation over time, learned what works, what doesn’t etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:22 PM
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I think you’re overestimating how much women care about being attractive to men. I really don’t think that attractiveness to men is something women are thinking about when they embark on a PhD! They’re focused on their research and career. Where are all these women claiming their academic career is relevant to their dating life?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:41 AM
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I do have really good pussy. I’d eat it myself if I could reach.
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 10:53 PM
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No
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 09:36 PM
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Oh, no I’m not in to that. I like pussy too much
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 05:56 PM
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I wouldn’t say it’s psychological, I don’t get turned on my cis men. Like I don’t enjoy sucking dick but I could eat pussy for hours. Also the lack of boobs is a bummer. Why does it matter though?
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 05:52 PM
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I have a genital preference (pussy). I’m not attracted to cis men and I also find that they cum so quickly, what’s the point? Every guy I ever slept with was like a few pumps then busted.
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 05:46 PM
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Calm down, sensitive flower. You’re just jealous because you know I get a lot more pussy than you.
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 05:06 PM
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How charitable of you to afford me, a WOMAN, free choice.
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 04:58 PM
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Glad to hear it.
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 04:54 PM
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Twitter drains the battery on my phone, and this is more fun.
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 04:50 PM
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Another one?! You should make a support group. Since The Matrix is a trans metaphor by associating yourself with The Red Pill you are pretty much outing yourself.
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 04:38 PM
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A) I’m single. B) you sound like a trans woman in denial. No shame in being yourself girl.
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 04:20 PM
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Oh to have a simple mind. Would be so easy.
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 04:16 PM
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How embarrassing for you that you don’t understand gender. Either that or you’re just attention seeking and baiting with this post which is, again, embarrassing. You’re aware India has 3 legal genders? The Torah has 5…. Sex and gender are not the same thing. Sexual attraction is not straightforward either. My sexuality is: pretty much anyone except cis dudes.
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 04:07 PM
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There’s such a mix. Some women are visual, some are not. Not everyone sees images in their mind, they think in words. Meanwhile some people don’t have an internal monologue and think entirely in pictures, they can visualise easily. You get both types of people across all genders. There might be one gender which means more towards visual, but it’s not absolute.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:43 PM
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If what they really wanted was sex this would make sense. But they don’t. These guys who think they are desperate for sex are actually desperate for power over women. Since sex workers are providing a service they have the upper hand in that dynamic so it’s probably far less exciting to them. They want to feel like they “dominated” a woman.
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 03:39 PM
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I am British but have spent a fair bit of time in the states. I think what a lot of people fail to realise is that USA is a very young country. We have houses older than your constitution. USA is like a dystopian capitalist experiment. I’ve heard it referred to as “If you bought a country off Wish”. (Wish is renowned for selling poor quality fake products). So very superficial really. The USA is very conservative, even with a democrat government. It’s so individualistic. Everyone is expected to …
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 03:27 PM
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If she didn’t respond to the museum pics then might be best to leave it I’m afraid. Definitely stick to ND though. NT is a waste of time. Much more likely to find someone compatible with similar sense of humour and stuff if they are also ND. Rejection is horrible and lots of ND folk have RSD as well which makes it worse. Best thing you can do is find as many neurodiverse events or groups as you can and be active in them.
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 04:15 PM
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How many times have you messaged since last time? If you sent one message and she’s not replied then you could try sending a meme you think she will like. If you’ve sent her multiple and still no reply then leave it. Why? I forget to reply, then I can’t work out what to say to excuse my lack of reply, then I write the text a million times in my head… then I don’t send it because I keep forgetting or can’t decide what to say.
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 03:57 PM
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I’m a woman who participates in casual sex with other women because I like sex. Some women want to fuck, this Red Pill idea that we have no sex drive is getting old. Men are not necessarily going to be loyal to other men in trying to keep the dating pool even. Life is unfair sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 02:21 PM
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Why do you want to date a neurotypical? You realise they’re a PITA right? I’m considered conventionally quite attractive. But I struggle with the social skills and therefore have trouble dating neurotypical women. I’m ADHD too and I often forget to reply to their text messages which makes them offended even though I was genuinely just distracted. For sex I manage with ONS and make an exit in the morning before they realise I’m autistic af. The pretty face can attract women who are looking to hoo…
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 02:06 PM
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Why didn’t you choose one of the beautiful women who think they’re ugly on that sub?
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 06:52 AM
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I think one of the big mistakes Red Pill makes us underestimating how many “outliers” there are, combined with not recognising that they themselves are outliers, and therefore need to tailor their “dating game”accordingly. You can strive all you want to be what an influencer had told you women want (based on misinterpreted “evolutionary psychology”), but ultimately you can’t keep up the act for an entire relationship or marriage. It would be more effective and fulfilling to work with what you ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:46 PM
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It was more an observation than an active attempt at influencing your thinking.
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 10:44 AM
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They’re not objects though are they? They’re actual people. Probably many of which have contributed positively to your life in a lot of ways. And women being sexually liberated without men… does that bother you? Does it bother you to know there are women only sex parties? that I can hook up with another woman in the bathroom of a club? that we don’t need men sexually at all? Dicks are unreliable, 3 pumps and they’re done. There’s lots of very horny women having a lot of fun and not a man in sigh…
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 10:43 AM
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You don’t sound remotely psychologically balanced right now. Get help.
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 10:07 PM
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If by “ran through” you mean they’ve slept with a lot of men… lots of sexually liberated women don’t sleep with men. If you are using phrases like “ran through” the reason you’re not getting pussy is you don’t deserve pussy.
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 09:01 PM
1

Have you ever considered that not everything Andrew Tate tells you is true?
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 08:59 PM
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Of course better looking people find dating easier. It’s not true that girls** want nothing to do with you if you’re ugly. I know loads of ugly men with partners. **how old are you because if it’s a “girl” you’re looking for and you’re an adult that’s creepy af.
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 05:23 PM
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I bet you’re one of those guys who refuses to let the woman pay her half, then when she doesn’t want sex you claim she “used” you.
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 05:18 PM
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notallcats
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 04:54 PM
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Okay so the ‘hyper male’ brain thing is BS. Baron-Cohen was well off the mark on that one. I am an autistic woman (lesbian). I’m not hyper focused and loyal. I’m more of a “one and done” woman for now. This is due to my lack of social skills. I can easily pick up a woman and have a ONS but I usually make a swift exit in the morning before she has time to talk to me and realise I’m autistic af. For serious dating I only consider autistics. Neurotypical women are complicated and just not on my wav…
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 03:04 PM
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You don’t even seem aware of what you need to hide to cover up your misogyny. You’re the delulu one who believes manosphere shit. In nature cats are supposedly the most successful land predators, with birds being one of their major sources of prey. But my neighbour’s cat and two magpies have become best of friends and keep playing together in the garden. Nature is weird. It’s not consistent. Our brains frequently override it. Evolutionary biologists are laughing at Red Pill interpretation of the…
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 02:53 PM
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Looks is everything? What do you even mean by that?
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 02:46 PM
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You want more?
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 02:45 PM
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No it’s not normal. Women and men are equal. They split the bill. If he tries to pay the whole thing it’s usually because he wants sex and thinks relationships are “tRanSaCtioNaL”.
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 02:42 PM
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Loads of women can spot misogyny. Like if he tries to pay for a whole date that would get the women in my social circle suspicious. Just one example. If he even ask body count. If he’s trying to act “macho”. There are loads of tells. You’re not as stealth as you think you are.
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 02:16 PM
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I’ll just leave thishere…
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 02:13 PM
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Maybe he’s…… not a misogynist. Not being a misogynist adds a fuck load of “market value” especially among sexually liberated women.
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 01:14 PM
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You missed the third group: People who think some women have high standards and some have low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:56 AM
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Just because someone is an older guy it doesn’t mean they can’t be sucked in when vulnerable. You have literally just explained situations that would make men vulnerable- essentially the end of a relationship, they’ve been hurt and had bad luck with women - TRP comforts them in their time of need. A well balanced older guy would be able to see that the absolutes of TRP are sus.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 09:20 PM
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What’s the source that her BMI is 25? Look, I’m a feminist, I’m not in to all this fat shaming nonsense and rarely agree with TRP but tbf there’s no way her BMI is 25. Even if she had low muscle mass and high body fat percent. She’s still gorgeous but her BMI isn’t 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 09:12 PM
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They are pretty much just parroting things they’ve heard Tate et. al say. They are not using their brains and actually deciding this stuff for themselves. I’m 36 and still have to carry ID with me if I’m going to buy alcohol, drinking age is 18 where I live. People don’t believe me when I tell them my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 09:07 PM
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No, they’re too young to have even had a peer relationship with a woman. A lot of them find the content in their teens and are converted before they even try dating. They’ve never been taken advantage of by a woman, it’s the manosphere content creators who use classic recruitment tactics like pretending they have all the answers to the difficult questions. The teen boys fall straight in to the trap and then manosphere creators make money off them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 08:58 PM
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No not at all. Taken advantage of by older misogynists/manosphere influencers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 08:26 PM
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What are you looking for?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 07:03 PM
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36 F single (but have casual sex) lesbian. My impression is that most of this sub is about power over the opposite sex. From both sides. Women trying to take back power. Men trying to impose power. Lots of the RP guys are very young and autistic and have been taken advantage of by older misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 06:58 PM
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Everything. Nobody on PPD is saying women are perfectly angelic.
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 06:19 PM
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What is? The road ahead or….?
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 06:10 PM
1

I see. What did you get banned for?
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 06:06 PM
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You’re not making any sense
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 06:05 PM
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Is this sub just everyone who got banned from PPD? Also you misogynists brains are hilarious. You take “black and white” thinking to the extreme.
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 05:56 PM
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Its also pretty common that when a man blames his looks on reddit, women will say things like "nah its your personality" with a bunch of crying laughing emojis. Idk what motivates this behavior. What does the rest of the conversation look like. If the man is spouting misogynistic stuff then that's why people blame their personality. It's not just misogyny, it's also the defeatist attitude that goes along with "I'll never find anyone? all I want is a subservient virgin who looks like an OF model"…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 01:46 PM
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So you are describing power within the dating sphere, but that isn’t the same as power in other areas of life such as economics. I’m not sure which women are claiming men don’t have higher labido (for the most part - by no means is this absolute) or women claiming men have more power in dating. I don’t see it. But I wonder if you’ve got confused and heard women saying they have less power in other areas of life, but you’ve conflated it with the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 10:49 AM
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You mentioned you, the kids and her family want you to get back together - but that’s clearly not what she wants. What everyone else wants is irrelevant. You need to let go. There will be a reason you separated. Something you are leaving out of this story. I know a lot of women find that having a husband or partner around creates a lot more housework. For me when I separated from my ex there was far less labour to do and the household tasks I did do were easier because there was no resentment. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 10:44 AM
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People’s standards change over time. Younger women are often more focused on looks, with lower standards for behaviour. As women age their standards for looks reduce and their standards for how they are treated rise. Chad might be fun for early twenties flings but he’s not a serious long-term option on account of the arrogance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 10:17 AM
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Well you have fun with that.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 09:13 PM
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I’m on here because I’m on a 3 day ban from another very similar sub. Why am I on that sub? For a long time in my life I didn’t have a voice and couldn’t argue back at these kind of opinions. I’m kind of processing all that, taking back my power. My therapist reassures me it will run its course and I won’t always be arguing with misogynists on Reddit. It’s just my outlet for how. Additionally I work with autistic youth and this is a safeguarding concern at the moment with a lot of teen boys gett…
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 08:10 PM
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Oooo check you out! Go get ‘em tiger!
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 07:48 PM
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I’m convinced that most of the guys on subs like this haven’t ever spoken to a woman let alone socialised with them. This is due to the emotional immaturity and complete separation from reality. I actually wish people would put their age in their user flair so I can tell if I’m arguing against a child or not.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 04:29 PM
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I am pretty busy and don’t have time to meticulously comb through your reply and quote. However skim reading it there’s a few things to point out. The Red Pill absolutely generalises about women. The “data” they rely on seems to mostly be generated from OKCupid and other dating apps. Most women are not even on those apps. Then if you say something that doesn’t match RP generalisations you are either a liar or “an extreme outlier”. If it’s related to sex and you are anything other than frigid you…
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 03:43 PM
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Okay so if we say the moment we make generalisations we become hateful, how can you say Red Pill isn’t hateful to women? It doesn’t make any sense. Red Pill is based on generalisations about women, harmful ones at that. You cannot compare toxicity of women to toxicity of men. You just can’t. There is no question that men are the more aggressive ones. Women are entitled to a place to let off steam when men treat them like shit. You say “some men”, and sure not all are like that, but how tf are wo…
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 01:40 PM
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I can’t fathom why you don’t have beautiful women falling at your knees. You really are a charming chap…. /s
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 12:11 PM
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There’s a whole ass sub called “TrollXChromosome”, don’t act like there’s no trolling going on there. You don’t want to “spark brigaiding” … or you don’t want me to see the user’s profile that backs up their history of trolling that sub?
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 12:10 PM
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They’re not complaining about terrible treatment from women. They’re complaining that they aren’t getting exactly what they want.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 12:09 PM
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The first person is calling women “females”. It’s a RP troll. Sorry to burst your bubble. Why don’t you link to the actual post anyway?
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 11:51 AM
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I haven’t seen those, but have you clicked on them? Presumably that is said as a reaction to deplorable behaviour by men. People don’t just say that kind of thing for no reason. ETA: I just looked now. Can’t see anything but legitimate complaints about terrible treatment from men. I think the extreme ones you describe are just trolling posts from Red Pill men.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 11:09 AM
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I am so confused because I hang V on TwoX and it’s mostly women talking about being hurt by men, and other women supporting them. There’s nothing anywhere near as hateful of stuff on subs like this.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 07:19 AM
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If you are in the US they will teach you that, they view autism as a disorder and try to “treat” it. The reality is that our environment disables us. All those kids you see having violent meltdowns have usually been subjected to “therapies” that they just can’t cope with. When I stopped that approach with my daughter she began talking and developed much faster. Big one is that we self-regulate by repetitive movements. Safe and effective calming strategy. Shame NTs don’t get the same comfort from…
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 11:12 PM
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Okay, understood. Just a friendly note, most autistics find the phrasing “with autism” offensive. It’s kind of similar to saying “with gay”. Once being gay was considered a mental disorder, and that’s where we are now with autism. Social pressures are just horrible. I truly believe if autistics were able to have more influence on social dynamics the world would be a better place. There’s this conference with mostly autistic people. I was there for 4 days, when I left I noticed everyone was dress…
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 09:06 PM
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Being true to yourself as an autistic in neurotypical company is dangerous. We are the target of bullies not just in school but as adults in the workplace and bullying abusive partners or family members. What people often refer to as autistics “masking” is actually better termed “shielding”. It’s protection that’s necessary for us to exist in an NT world. This is why suicide rates are so high in autistic populations (some studies suggest it’s the leading cause of death for autistic adults that d…
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 08:52 PM
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It’s a real problem. They are vulnerable to the cult-like tactics to hook you in, they feel like they’ve been given manual for dating which eliminates all uncertainty and ambiguity in dating.
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 07:56 PM
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People often treat you like your are stupid if you disclose your autism. They also make a lot of incorrect assumptions like that you lack empathy. Trying to get an NT to understand that autistic doesn’t mean there’s something “wrong” and that NT are “right” is virtually impossible. NTs have an enormous privilege. They dominate the environment and social norms to the point that they think autism is a “disorder”. All while ignoring that we kind of shaped the world and provided medicine, technology…
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 05:51 PM
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I don’t have time to read full post right now but will come back later. I tried to put a post in another sub asking NTs if they realise they can’t empathise with autistics and they downvoted so hard I ended up deleting the post. One person blocked me for sharing a link to the wiki page for The Double Empathy Problem. A large part of my job is teaching NTs about autistics but honestly at this point I feel like giving up. We need an autistic only country.
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 05:46 PM
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Why not? This might give you a heart attack, but where I live a lot of places have gender neutral toilets. Even some McDonalds restaurants! Women’s bathrooms only have stalls anyway, so there’s always a locked door protecting you while you pee.
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 05:43 PM
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You’re right! The issue is that it’s very difficult for them to take that in. They have this explained to them in bits throughout discussions on this board, but they will find every way possible to justify their abhorrent views. They’re desensitised to it through exposure online, and at this point I think many are actively avoiding the real world. A big issue here is cognitive bias. They don’t understand it, they don’t realise their interpretation of the world is skewed. Additionally they don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 10:01 AM
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I didn’t post that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:12 PM
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What makes you think I’m mad?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:09 PM
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You know what random Reddit man I think you must be right! All along I’d been blaming myself for being a serial ghoster. I just need a wise man on Reddit who has mommy issues to insult me and now I’m all fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:54 PM
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I went on a date with a walking red flag woman. As soon as I arrived she asked me if my friend was my boyfriend he wasn’t. He had a boyfriend but apparently I’d been hanging out with him too much for her liking. She went on to tell me she was the most intelligent person in her family, admitted she faked her accent, went on about how she was a fantastic runner and even if she’s injured she still runs faster than most people. Then next morning (she was really hot) she wouldn’t leave my flat. She w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:43 PM
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Oh I have the kid already, I am done with that aspect!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:52 PM
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When and where is this humiliation of men occurring? I haven’t seen it anywhere apart from online. Are you equating all rejections with humiliation? Someone not treating a person the same way they treat people they are attracted to of course doesn’t make them less human. They’re always human. The issue is the men only acknowledge women they want to sleep with. Hence they don’t view women as people, only sex objects. The way men view women and the way women are is not the same thing. It’s terribl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:49 PM
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That’s sad because I was really looking to be eDuCaTed by an Andrew Tate simp. Need to brush up on my leadership skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:30 PM
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How have you completely managed to miss the point? These are women pointing out that men only treat women like people when they find them attractive. Women do treat men who they don’t find attractive as people - but you would probably call that “getting friendzoned”. The point is - a lot of men only see women as sex objects, not people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:20 PM
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How many long-term relationships have you been in?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:08 PM
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That’s sweet that you thought I would pick men for relationships. I actually like cumming so I’ll stick with women for now thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:58 PM
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I’m confused which category I fit in. I’m hot but introverted and autistic. I have two cats but I also have quite a bit of casual sex with hot woman and do a lot of partying (at age 36?!). Who am I??? Oh that’s right, just a person. Categories like “cat lady” and “party” girl are massive oversimplifications. I think more extroverted women are probably more likely to have more people around them, but that’s out of desire. Most ‘cat ladies’ are happy as they are. They’ve created the life they want…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:28 PM
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Even dating takes up a lot of emotional energy and time. Men fuck around. Some women just don’t have time/space for that in their lives. Focus on work and things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:09 PM
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No, you still don’t know until you have kids. It can take years before someone reveals their true selves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:06 PM
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You can’t know until you have kids. By then it’s too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:52 AM
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I honestly think it’s all about ego and power. By sleeping with a woman who is sexually experienced they feel more pressure to live up to previous partner’s standards. This evens out the power balance and is therefore undesirable to the insecure man. They prefer a woman who has no frame of reference of what good sex is. They also have this concept of “owning” women. Seeing women as property/objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:42 AM
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What am I supposed to respond to? Misogynistic drivel?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:33 AM
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Some women still want marriage after all. But as the post states, many more are choosing to be single now that they can be financially independent. Virtually no woman wants to be stuck in an unhappy marriage because they don’t have financial independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:29 AM
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If you’ve only been on one date then accept the next one and decide after you’ve seen them both.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 01:44 PM
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Women are no longer trapped in abusive marriages as they were before so that’s great. 85%+ long term pairing isn’t that important that women should sacrifice their freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:26 AM
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You claim to have a LOT of leadership experience… yet judging from your username you have been very much led by an internet personality in to a cult-like extremist movement. Strange. It’s quite obvious that your claims about women in leadership are bullshit. But I wonder why it is you need to believe that? Why do you need to undermine women? I’d imagine it has a lot to do with mommy issues and a need to feel power over women. You should get some therapy for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:17 AM
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Firstly there’s no such thing as “borderline autistic”. You’re either autistic or you’re not. Secondly it’s absolutely not true that women don’t go on self-improvement journeys. Many autistic women hate themselves so much they end up self harming and developing eating disorders. Thirdly, autistic women are much more likely to be taken advantage of and abused. If you would rather be abused than be single then that’s your masochistic issue, but personally I’d prefer to be single. Yes we can get se…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:30 PM
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I never said “most women” preferring submissive guys nor did I talk about personality being the most important.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:29 AM
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That’s the stereotype of lesbian relationships. There are plenty of femme 4 femme couples and same with two butch.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:26 AM
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I have no height preferences personally. Don’t try to mansplain the vagina to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:25 AM
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Gay men don’t have pussies with a g-spot. That makes penis size a different issue entirely so it’s a terrible comparison. All I said was that lesbians existing proves there is variation in what women are attracted to. It’s that simple. Either you agree or you don’t. I didn’t say you were redpilled, I was careful not to leave that as the only descriptor of such people since you identify as black pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:22 PM
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You’re delusional. Lesbians are relevant because we prove there’s variation in what people are attracted to. Again with the bs about anyone who doesn’t fit RP stereotypes being “outliers”. It’s the only response to proof life isn’t as simple as Red Pillers and sexist men want it to be. It’s difficult to take this counter argument seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 05:20 PM
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Pretty sure they are just rage baiting
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 05:11 PM
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Are you for real? Out of interest - what’s your leadership background like?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 05:10 PM
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Google the word “fundamental” if you’re confused about the meaning. It means a mandatory base for something. The OP used the table as an analogy as tables require 4 legs and a flat top to be a table.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:49 PM
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No, dude come on. Not all women need those 4 things! They just don’t. They are not the fundamentals of a male partner, they’re just not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:41 PM
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Are you saying you surveyed all your classmates, coworkers and acquaintances? That's creepy af. Or is this just your observation? In which case don't state it as fact. You might need to frame is as "it seems to me that xyz". Your observations are informed by cognitive bias. It's highly unlikely you know the ins and outs of all these people's dating lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:53 PM
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Your not going to convince me that majority women are like your sister or like lesbians I don't think anyone is trying to say the majority are, but a lot more than you think. 51% of something is a majority, but does that make the other 49% irrelevant? > But there is trends and common sense on a population level. ​ No, it is not common sense on an individual level. Common sense is understanding that you need to work with what you've got not what the majority of the population has. You need to ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:50 PM
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It wasn't because the things he identified are not fundamentals in the way table legs are to a table.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:36 PM
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Eeek. I think the issue here is you not understanding what I mean. I’m not saying I don’t understand that OP is using an analogy- of course I realise that. I’m saying the analogy is useless in this circumstance. Not all analogies are good ones. This was a terrible analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:09 PM
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1). Wow a whole woman! How many are there compared to men? 2). But if lesbians can exist, then surely women who don’t require these same “fundamentals” must exist? 3). No this is a common mistake from RP men. Every example that doesn’t conform is dismissed as an “outlier” or an “exception”. Women like my sister are really not that rare! The “numbers game” doesn’t work on an individual level. It might be useful on population level but not for one person on their individual dating journey. There a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:04 PM
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No, she earns more than him. When she met him he had a fairly low paying job and she “encouraged“ him to set up his own business as a specialist version of the role he had been in. She “helps” him run the business. They also home educate the children (she’s too much of a control freak to let them go to school).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:38 PM
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Okay so first I think we need to draw attention to the obvious problem here - men are not furniture. You formulation of the "fundamentals" fall apart in several ways. How do you explain lesbians? a masculine personality (whether that be confidence, charisma, ambition, a natural born leader, social butterfly, funny in a witty non dorky way) Excuse me? what about being funny, a social butterfly, having confidence or charisma is inherently masculine? These are traits that feminine women have too. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:59 PM
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I don’t think men or women should be numbing their feelings. The problem with TRP is it very quickly discounts anyone who they consider an “outlier”… even though outliers are pretty common and there’s huge variation between people. There are lots of women who are attracted to vulnerability. Even entire fetishes around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:36 PM
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If we take women's words seriously There's no "if" about it. Women are people, of course our words should be taken seriously. Well, in this framing, a woman who has a lot of sex with a variety of men is very likely letting herself used like that, no? Sex is supposed to be enjoyable for both partners. It's not just men who like it and want it. Pleasure is supposed to be mutual. If a woman enjoys having that much sex then maybe she is using the men? It's not about "letting" herself be used. If she…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:43 AM
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It’s not always said after something “absurd”. It’s said when people lose touch with reality/real world and instead take their information about the world from the internet - which is very skewed. Well done for trying to get yourself out there and going to clubs, meetups etc. It’s not easy to do and in my opinion simply turning up at those events is flexing that muscle. Even if you are not talking to people you can observe and learn from observation. If you stay home all the time you’re definite…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:55 AM
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“But I’ve never witnessed this in real life” - I’m confused but this statement. In what way could you “witness” a woman being ignored? There are a lot of women out there you’ve never met. Also, you’re not with every woman all the time so how would you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:44 AM
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It is for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:27 PM
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It would definitely be simpler. I don’t have that experience with dildo vs real dick but I suppose the sexual arousal with women helps!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:30 PM
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I didn’t say you were an enemy. Sorry if it came across that way. I agree with most of that but I’m stuck on the sex part. Understand not wanting to top, but in terms of receiving real dicks are so unreliable. I’ve slept with a fair few men thanks to comphet (and some of the reasons you stated). More often than not they only last a couple of minutes, sometimes they are too small or too big. Just so many unknowns. Strap is much easier to select what you want and it lasts the course. I will have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:12 PM
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I’m missing something… why is it they supposedly prefer men more strongly? It’s pretty difficult for me to understand why. I honestly believe they end up with them mostly because of the options available to them. It’s much easier to find an opposite partner than a same sex partner. Especially if your friend circle is all het.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:00 PM
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You’re not really paying though are you? In fact you’re still getting paid more than women. And if you follow TRP then it’s not bad things people did in the past, it’s bad things you are actively playing a part in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 03:49 PM
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First thing you need to understand and acknowledge that misogyny was, until recently, everywhere and totally accepted. Not just by a minority of men, such as mostly gay men, pretty much all men were like this and didn't question it. We are not just talking about how women were openly talked about and discussed but also in terms of voting rights, pay (still an issue), opportunities. Women were very much oppressed and contrary to what Red Pill influencers would have you believe - they hated it. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 02:19 PM
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“Agreeable” = easy to manipulate. BUT should that woman be manipulated in to an abusive relationship she is suddenly to blame for not leaving and agreeing to that treatment….
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 12:00 PM
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Women aren’t saying “good riddance” because they care about the women who are being taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:59 PM
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Jealousy? I’m neither American nor interested in men and I can see straight up that it is taking advantage. Taking advantage of women who are in terrible situations and therefore willing to put up with a misogynistic man child to get out of it. What’s empowering? Divorcing his ass once you’ve got the visa.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:58 PM
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The want the “virgin” but will subsequently complain that she’s doing the starfish because she has no experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:37 PM
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Pretty bold assuming everyone has a mum! Mine died when I was 7. Lots of people don’t have mums around for other reasons. So count yourself lucky. I’m surprised by the lack of joined up thinking here. You aren’t able to connect this to other issues that get discussed here. Early twenties women can be very vulnerable. This discussion has been done to death in the context of talking about age gap relationships. Men, especially RP men, learn how to manipulate and seduce young women. They then treat…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 12:16 PM
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That’s not a “dating” strategy, it’s a step by step guide for grooming. This is how to trick someone in to an abusive relationship. There’s a reason it was a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 10:11 AM
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Lol, I think men have the demonising women thing covered.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 01:58 PM
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Women have been screenshotting your profiles to FB groups for comedy purposes for years. Yet you’re getting angry at women doing it for safety purposes? Get your priorities right. These women have every right to warn others about predatory men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 10:57 AM
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You didn’t mention anything about this guy’s personality traits so it’s hard to tell what he’s really like. You just gave superficial markers like height and job. The closest thing you got to was “cool as hell”, but what does that even mean? There’s a few options in the case of your friend. 1) he likes bigger women. Some men keep this preference secret from their guy fe it ends. 2) he’s gay and the girl is just for show - do you live in a very homophobic area? By that I mean where homophobic sen…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 04:38 PM
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I think “constantly” is a bit of an overstatement, considering that I only replied to you once.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 06:33 PM
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In terms of style/aesthetic but not physically. I live somewhere that’s very diverse. There are certainly areas of the world that are not very diverse at all and so naturally people will look alike. I think in those places the minority who don’t look like everyone else tend to group together.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 05:47 PM
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Women literally give and nurture life. We wouldn’t need buildings if nobody was giving birth and feeding children - would we? There are definitely fewer women engineers but there are lots of reasons for that including oppression by men. A lot of tech companies are very difficult places for women to work not because they don’t enjoy the job or aren’t capable, but because the environment is misogynistic. This is true for a lot of fields. Also…. When you see women in these fields a lot of them are …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 05:36 PM
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I don’t equate “tribe” with looks. That’s more about interests and identity than natural physical features.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 04:32 PM
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Women are notoriously undervalued. We still literally get paid less than men and men are forever dismissing the efforts women make to… keep everything going. There’s things they just take for granted. When pressed I have heard RP men claim that being a housewife isn’t difficult and they could do it but they, as men, would get bored. This is fully BS. Running a home and caring for a family comes with so many components that a lot of men just don’t pick up on or appreciate at all. I do think that …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 04:08 PM
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You have already said her female friend was very engaged with you and seemed to like you. Even in the case that there wasn’t instant attraction you made a connection with someone and there was definitely the opportunity for attraction to grow. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying you should hook up with her friend, I’m just saying that you are clearly capable of connecting with women and you are being defeatist about your future potential options.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 01:38 PM
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Dude your relationship is dead. Find someone who actually wants to sleep with you rather than playing mind games with a woman who isn’t interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 01:31 PM
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I don’t think that’s necessarily true of people who have completed these courses. Only those who are mandated to do it. It builds self esteem generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 11:54 AM
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There are plenty of courses on healthy relationships. I did one. You literally learn red flags. And a whole lot more stuff on how to spot abusive behaviours and patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 10:39 AM
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Agree. Some of the best sex I ever had was with a larger woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 08:08 PM
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I think it raises red flags. I know a lot of technically bi women who will only date women because of the misogyny that’s out there. They’ve given up. To an extent it will be dependant on the social climate in your area. So for example a small conservative Christian town in USA the women will more likely submit, because they don’t know any better. But in bigger cities and more diverse areas it’ll be a big red flag. The more the Manosphere becomes known the more aware women are of small hints of …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 11:39 AM
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Of course it’s comforting, it makes you feel like you have power and can take control of something you feel powerless about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 11:13 AM
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Of course there is a distinction between friendship and someone you are attracted to. But saying you’ve been “put in the friend zone” implies you were entitled to something else, which you weren’t and it was never going to happen. Rather than saying “she put me in the friend zone” just say “the feelings weren’t reciprocated” or “she wasn’t attracted to me”.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 08:09 AM
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Hey come on now, that’s not completely true…. We do get taught this stuff after we’ve been abused and traumatised for years. Well at least that’s what it’s like where I live. You get sent on courses to learn about it only by being referred by a DV service. This stuff should be taught in schools!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 07:12 AM
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“Pull the mental gymnastics to not realise”? That doesn’t quite make sense, but regardless, it’s clear from your comment that you misconstrued what I was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 07:37 PM
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Okay look - I’m not going to take the time to attempt to format this in to quotes and replies. The idea that it’s “not the thing you make it out to be” is silly because whatever I’m making it out to be is abstract. Lesbian spaces attracting creepy men is very much a thing. It is a very current problem. The reason I asked how many lesbian bars you’ve been to is that very few lesbian spaces are static bars. It’s mostly parties held at various venues. You get your ticket in advance. There are DJ’s,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 07:33 PM
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I don’t agree that it’s an apt comparison because being an introvert or an extrovert is more of a continuum. An extrovert will always be more social than an introvert. But a man won’t always have a higher sex drive than the woman next to him. You can be both a woman and have a higher sex drive than lots of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 07:09 PM
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Working in the bar industry isn’t quite the same as living every day as a lesbian. I understand you think it doesn’t happen, but it does. I trust my own memory and experiences over your assertions. I’m not just making shit up. I have no motive to do that. It’s the same as when men just outright deny sexual assaults happen. I’m interested what year it was you did your bar stint. Also interested in geography. There’s a particular demographic that seems particularly prone to harassing lesbians, I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 06:48 PM
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It’s not really like saying that. RP men seem to think that women don’t have high sex drives and strong sexual urges. They might not be as strong as men’s, but we absolutely have them. We do get horny and miss sex when we can’t access it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 06:36 PM
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How many lesbian bars have you been to?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:56 PM
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They wait outside. Ask if they can join us while we are leaving and generally harass us. One night I was kissing this woman I met while we were waiting for our Uber and a guy grabbed her ass. We used to get a lot of cat calling and stuff because we both presented femme and stereotypically attractive. Had our photo taken by strangers too. Lesbian porn is very unrealistic, but the stuff about lesbians all being unattractive isn’t true. There are lots of very attractive women and I challenge any st…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:30 PM
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I am one of these lesbians. It’s because we can relax when men aren’t around. Lesbian spaces are very different from het spaces. All the societal gender crap goes out the window. My favourite place to go is actually in the basement for this reason. No windows for pervy men to look through. Honestly I think it’s also partly because women are really fucking sexy. Our spaces are often small and crowded and over heated so we are all rubbing up against each other getting horny. When we are out of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 04:40 PM
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Well we don’t have to pay for sex. If we did have to work to get it, but biologically our sex drive was as it is now, then women who couldn’t get it “for free” would absolutely be thrilled with free sex. This isn’t about the biology it’s about the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 04:23 PM
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So first you need to understand that if she has a high labido then she will probably have had quite a high number of sexual partners unless she spent all of her adult life in a LTR. Secondly, labido changes based on a lot of factors and cannot be guaranteed. Most importantly we need to be realistic. There are lots of pleasures in life that most us accept we will never have (without consequences). People wish they could eat high calorie food and stay skinny, most accept this will never be reality…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 03:20 PM
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My experience of lesbian community is different. I find in lesbian parties there’s a lot more open sexual activity than in straight bars. Also in the bathrooms. Taking ages in the cubicle because they’re eating each other out. Lots of running in to people you’ve hooked up with or ghosted, instances of accidentally dating your ex’s ex and shit like that. I had one woman on an app tell me she knew this other woman I slept with. There’s also the U-hauling aspect for sure. I think the difference it …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 09:11 PM
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I’m a pretty open person but I don’t post stuff like that on FB. Why would I?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 09:00 PM
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Well that’s what feminism is saying isn’t it? The famously popular patriarchy is not necessarily correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:57 PM
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Yes, I examine my cognitive biases very closely in therapy. Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:55 PM
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Those aren’t women I’m meeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:54 PM
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But feminists are commenting on their real world experience and their comments force men to address the reality that they don’t like. So TRP is kind of the defence of the male ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:53 PM
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My goodness. Nobody I know had ever posted their Tinder profile to their Facebook! Wtf?! Keep that shit separate. You are the first person I’ve ever heard of doing that. I’ve definitely not seen any come up in my newsfeed of friends and things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:49 PM
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Are you aware those Tinder profiles get screenshotted and posted in FB groups where everyone takes the piss out of them? By inherently bad women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:21 PM
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Hm, we’ll it’s very very common in my generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:19 PM
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I think when you are saying large groups of people are outright lying about what they’re attracted to you are moving in to conspiracy territory. Basically the answer is no, she doesn’t know. When I reference RP I mean the online movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:17 PM
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Feminism of course holds a lot of viewpoints that make men feel uncomfortable, especially if they tend to be insecure already. Unfortunately a lot of truths are uncomfortable and that’s what’s led to TRP movement. It’s men who can’t accept some of the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:12 PM
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I think this one is dependant on your level of empathy and compassion. The reason I don’t do that stuff is because I don’t want to be disappointing lots of women. It’s also so contrived. You don’t get a real connection. I think what I wonder is if the women with RP guys knew that they lacked that bit of compassion, would they still want to be with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:06 PM
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I think they just didn’t talk about it. People had Pen Pals before the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:02 PM
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If you are doing so well at it, don’t you have trouble managing the attention? I once read a book, The Art of Seduction I think, and I used some of that but it made women very needy and intense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:59 PM
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Well it sounds nice for you that you believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:57 PM
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I think that’s one of the classic tactics they use to hook people in to cults and things. They appear to provide all the answers (to common questions).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:56 PM
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I think my concern is that you are not seeing or noticing opportunities and therefore missing out. I just find TRP very limiting to the guy. Like you can’t really see anything that doesn’t fit the ideology. Classic cognitive bias at play.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:52 PM
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Do you talk about gender and sexual dynamics with her much?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:51 PM
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Well of course it confirms it after you’ve read the red pill stuff. That’s how cognitive bias works.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:47 PM
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Well there are a lot of feminists out there, got to be more than RP followers, so they must be getting something right about reality. Most feminists I know are either lesbians or they are with decent people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:44 PM
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Do you live in a conservative area?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:37 PM
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But that only works on a macro level. It doesn’t work on an individual basis. Realistically you’d do better if you tried to personalise things to both you and the woman you’re pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:36 PM
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I think that was more true 15 years ago. And maybe dependant on where you live? Nowadays guys who do that repel women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:15 PM
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This sounds very labour intensive having to impress new women all the time. And also the sex will be rubbish as you don’t get to know what each other like. Why not have a few casual people you go back to. FWB. We all need someone we can send a “what you doing?” text to at 1am
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:13 PM
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That sounds very reductive and simplistic. Women’s nature varies a lot, it’s altered by genetics, culture, life experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:10 PM
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You called yourself a misogynist, so you hate women. On some level you must hate her?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:58 PM
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I didn’t say you only hang out online. I think most people have online friends and IRL friends. Sometimes online friends get promoted to IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:47 PM
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I see. So what’s the deal with the RP guys who have wives? Do their wives know? I see a lot of posts on women’s advice forums saying “my bf says he likes Andrew Tate, what should I do?”. Obviously the answer is always dump him. So what if you sleep with someone and catch feelings for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:43 PM
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Honestly just shave the whole thing. Women don’t find that unattractive. It’s totally normal to see shaven head guys (even Andrew Tate!) Almost every woman you get intimate with will be far more concerned about how she looks and her flaws to notice your hairline.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:40 PM
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Lol, we’ll good luck with that endeavour.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:05 PM
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I’m going to tell you the sentiment I hear echoed by my female friends scout balding men “why do they make such a big deal out of it? Just shave your whole head, nothing wrong with that”. It’s normal for guys to be bald. I never understood this. When I used to date men two separate guys thought I was looking at their hairline when I was running my hands through their hair. To me they had a normal amount of hair. I did not notice any thinning. One even bought special medicine off eve internet for…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 03:28 PM
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Look I’m going to break some news to you and it might come as a shock. There are lots of very well travelled, very intelligent and experienced feminists, whose opinion on these matters I trust much more than yours. What are you doing with yourself? At 48 to be congregating online with a bunch of Red Pill teenagers who don’t even need to shave yet. Where are all the friends you’ve accumulated over those 48 years. Don’t they want to discuss Red Pill bs with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 03:20 PM
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Sure sure. But to all those places you travelled you only took one brain with you - and it’s heavily biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:07 PM
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It’s really sad that you are resorting to this kind of thing to make yourself feel powerful. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:39 AM
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When you say you think that stuff is true you are openly admitting to having been manipulated by some scammers taking advantage of teenage boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:38 AM
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RP blame women for everything. No, a regular decent guy doesn’t experience “sweet sweet catharsis” upon discovering a treasure trove of misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:35 PM
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No it’s not saying that looks don’t matter. It’s really not. You’ve added that. It’s saying they are not the only thing that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 03:57 PM
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I am not sleeping with any men, so it’s quite clear I do not approve of their behaviour. I don’t think when someone sleeps with someone they necessarily approve of their behaviour. Sometimes they’re just horny. I slept with the most arrogant woman I ever met. She had already told me that she was “the most intelligent” person in her family, that she’s great at everything, most beautiful out of her sisters etc… I did not approve of her being such an arrogant ass but I slept with her anyway because…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 03:55 PM
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I think this is a problem with you and your ability to see shades of grey. Often the degree to which something is true is communicated through words like “always”, “sometimes”, “never”. If you listen to RP guys they will use words like “always” and “never” a lot before making statements. If I meant it was the reason you’re being told to be nice every time is that you’re nasty I would have included a qualifier. I didn’t. You seem to be struggling to hold two concepts in mind and view them in cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 03:51 PM
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This really isn’t the flex you think it is! Where are all the blue pill memes? We don’t make them. We are simply not that bitter and obsessed with dating. RP guys are angry so they channel the anger in to making pathetic memes. It’s not something to be proud of. It’s the reason so many of you are single. The only people you’re impressing with your memes is each other. The RP memes are extremely offensive and lots of people don’t want to see them so they avoid the sub for this week. It’s unpleasa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 03:43 PM
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Well you are not looking at it in absolutes then. Which is good. Unfortunately a lot of RP content does talk in absolutes and the boys/men who fall for it genuinely believe in those absolutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 03:08 PM
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No I’m harsh on women too. Amber Heard for example is a despicable woman. But a lot of the RP principles support and enable abuse against women. More women are killed by men than men killed by women. In fact the statistics are horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 02:58 PM
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I didn’t say they don’t exist. What about them? Well I feel bad for them. Unfortunately life isn’t fair and people can be out of luck for many reasons. I Health, abuse etc. Lonely nice guys are not the only people suffering and if they are decent people they’re aware of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 02:56 PM
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Can you read? That doesn’t say looks don’t matter. It says that personality matters. Maybe you misread the sentence? I said “short ugly men CAN get women if they are decent people”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 02:41 PM
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It might be true but it doesn’t mean these men have absolutely no chance. It’s just more difficult for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 02:40 PM
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I didn’t say dark triad is helpful for short ugly guys. Simply having sex isn’t the deepest form of connection. Someone can be having sex but be quite disconnected from the person. Lots of women have risky sex. People’s minds aren’t always logical. Many people have a self destructive streak, in fact some don’t get horny without a sense of risk. Emotional vulnerability is definitely an important indicator of intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 02:35 PM
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It really does. I feel very fortunate to be attracted to women. Lesbian scene is so much more free. Not all they pressure to cater to male gaze.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 02:31 PM
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A creep is someone who gives unwanted sexual attention. A good looking guy might get away with it. Life’s not fair. But being a creep is different from being a nasty person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 02:29 PM
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I hate tall handsome nasty men just as much. But yeah, all of you, regardless of height and looks, if you think RP content is okay then you are a nasty person so please do stay in your lane and don’t go near women. I personally don’t go near men anymore at all. I’m attracted to breasts, nice round bums etc, men are too straight up and down. Also shit in bed and come with the risk of being a misogynist. I very much wish tall attractive assholes didn’t get women. You might think it sounds harsh sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 01:13 PM
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How is saying they’ll get women to sleep with them approving of them?? In your mind is saying someone gets women to sleep with them an “approval”? That’s not how life works.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 01:08 PM
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Eh? Being a nasty person is often the reason someone is single. You can be ugly and short but if you are a nice person you still have a shot. That’s not contradictory. I think your “either/or” is holding you back a lot. Humans aren’t black and white. It’s rarely an either or. There are several factors that come in to play. But ultimately, what we mean by “be nice” is that you aren’t getting women because you are nasty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 01:06 PM
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If you think it’s a waste of time don’t comment. If you are short and ugly the dark triad won’t help you. If you are short and ugly you need a good personality. But it goes deeper. RP guys seem to see relationships as about getting women to sleep with them, rather than forming a connection with another human. If you are a decent person you can form connections that will lead to healthy relationships. If you don’t view women as people you have zero chance of forming a connection and entering a he…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 01:03 PM
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You are stating that in very absolute terms. It takes longer for people to warm up to them, but they do get women. Believing RP content makes your chances much worse because your cognitive bias means you’re not able to take in the reality and you kiss genuine opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 12:58 PM
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First, just to be clear, I’m not offering advice here. I’m just stating my view. Short, ugly poor guys absolutely get girlfriends. They don’t all end up incels. Only the nasty ones do. The decent guys will have a harder time finding a partner than attractive guys, but they don’t all end up alone. I know plenty of them, and like I said in my post, they hate RP content.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 12:56 PM
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I personally don’t like any men. They are appalling in bed and they don’t have any of the sexy body parts like boobs and pussy. I’m just fed up of hearing guys complain about being told to be nice. If someone is telling you to be nice it’s because they know you have an awful personality. I don’t condone the dressing it up as “be nice”. Hence this post. It’s just a shortcut for you guys. To tell you that your whole personality is the reason you don’t get pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 12:53 PM
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If you want to rack up numbers you are pathetic. It doesn’t result in good sex or any sort of fulfilment in another way. I’m not going to feel sorry for you for failing at racking up numbers. It’s a natural consequence of being a nasty human. Manipulating people isn’t hard. I actually did some of the PUA thing with a couple of women but they became too obsessed with me and I didn’t want to hurt them. Because I’m a decent human.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 12:50 PM
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Why did you think I thought what I said was groundbreaking. It’s pretty bloody obvious. I am just decoding it. If you can’t get a woman it’s because you have a terrible personality. That’s not advice, it’s just a statement of fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 12:44 PM
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No because I posted in a sub full of RP guys. Your opinions are warped and don’t matter to me. In any other sub this is just common sense and most people would agree. I’m not even trying to give advice. I am just decoding what women mean. They are telling you that you can’t get women because of your personality. Which is true. If you are tall and handsome you might be able to get away with a shit personality. To actually take RP content seriously you have to be asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 12:42 PM
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“Victim blaming” who? Who is the victim? If a guy is an asshole, only looks and charisma can save him. If a guy is ugly, his personality can save him. If you are ugly AND nasty, you’re out of luck. There are guys who are failing to get women that don’t consume RP content. The men who are okay with RP content don’t deserve a girlfriend so it doesn’t matter that they are failing. It’s a good thing, it’s protecting women from nasty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 12:39 PM
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I can see how you would be confused - but I think you’re struggling to incorporate all of what I said. Nowhere in my post do I say looks don’t matter, I’m simply saying that if you are not an asshole looks don’t matter as much. The only thing that can save an asshole is superficial things like looks. The only thing that can save a short ugly man is not being a misogynistic asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 12:35 PM
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No they don’t compensate by niceness. They just are that way naturally. It’s not something you can change about yourself. If you get through RP content without seeing / caring about how degrading it is to women, you are not a good person. You don’t deserve a girlfriend. Most men read RP content and thinks it’s awful. They aren’t trying to be like that, it’s their natural personality. I think this kind of compassion, respect etc is something you are born with. If you don’t have it don’t try to fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 12:25 PM
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What do you mean why do I assume they are bad people? I mean, if it’s by friends I’m not assuming he’s an asshole, but they give me a reason. Example: friend calls crying that her husband assaulted her in a drunken rage. There’s no ambiguity there. He’s an asshole. I saw a good post the other day on another sub. It was about how some red pill ideas have basis in reality, but they are massively over exaggerated by the red pill community. When you talk to these guys that have been brainwashed by A…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:54 PM
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Nobody is assuming that. There could be multiple other reasons you are single. The fact that that’s what you took from what I said, you found it to be a personal attack, means there’s other factors in your personality that might be worth exploring in therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:48 PM
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It’s not at all. By nasty person I mean the kind of person who hates women and blames them for everything, men with no compassion. The kind of man who would read Red Pill content and let themselves get indoctrinated. As opposed to the kind of man who comes across Red Pill content and finds it vile. The guy who finds it vile is still in the game even if they’re short and ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:44 PM
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If you are short and ugly then you have to be a decent person. Women can be attracted to men for several reasons, but if you don’t have the other factors in there, being a misogynistic asshole will completely obliterate your chances. As I said, there’s plenty of short, ugly men with girlfriends/wives. If they read Red Pill content they’d find it disgusting and pathetic. Nasty men lap up Red Pill content. If you are going to be nasty you had better be talk, handsome or rich, otherwise you’ll die …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:42 PM
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Wow clever homophobic insult. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:36 PM
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No thanks, I think you’ve already displayed your intellectual snobbery and will to undermine my intelligence. You should know - a lot of men do this to women. You’re not original. It might make you feel powerful and more superior but it ain’t gonna get you a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:35 PM
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Did you really need me to repeat the bit about looks? I clearly stated tall and handsome nasty men get women. Maybe I didn’t put it after every instance I referenced shitty people not getting relationships - but most people are able to retain the rest of the information in the post and put it in context.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:33 PM
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When did I say physical looks don’t matter? When did I try to achieve behaviour modification? I had no such intention. I stayed very clearly I do not believe men are capable of this change. I was just telling you how it is. If you are not blessed with physical good looks you can’t afford to be an asshole. Nothing you can do about it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:27 PM
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What do you mean “what?” Are you high or stupid? “Being nice means you bend over backwards to cater to a girl’s whims” you stated an extreme. It’s false and incorrect. My deduction from that is that you are only capable of thinking in black and white. Either/or. You don’t understand the concept of middle ground and nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:24 PM
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Where did I state they should compensate for it? I’m making an observation not giving instructions. I’m not telling anyone they should change, just telling them why they’re single.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:22 PM
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No I didn’t insinuate that. There’s lots of reasons someone might not be able to get a woman if they are a good person. Geography being one (sparsely populated areas). Lack of confidence. Trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:21 PM
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No I didn’t. You misunderstood. Reread my last comment. That is my stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:20 PM
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I’m not telling anyone to change themselves or their behaviour. I’m just telling them why they’re single. I don’t approve of tall attractive assholes. “Women can tell if you’re a good guy”…. They really really can’t, unless they’ve met and escaped from a bad guy. Honestly some women assume the best in everyone and it can take them far to long to realise their partner is a bad guy. Seriously the amount of women I’ve known who are obviously being manipulated by horrible human beings is eye waterin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:18 PM
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Some women want doormats (my older sister for example) but most just don’t want their partner to be an asshole. You don’t have to be a “doormat” to be a decent human. Plenty of middle ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:14 PM
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The halo effect is the only thing that can save nasty men. They have to be attractive and tall. But without the halo effect (e.g. short and ugly) women see them for who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:12 PM
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I would greatly appreciate it if you read my whole post and use appropriate context. I definitely said talk attractive men can be nasty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:09 PM
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Lol what? Is that a reference to something I have clearly missed out on? “Real men” isn’t a concept I use… ever… and I’m certainly not trying to teach anyone anything. The guys I’m talking about can’t be helped.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:08 PM
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Are you seriously not capable of thinking in either /or terms. Is everything an extreme to you? In the real world we have middle ground. Bad boys who are tall and handsome often cause a woman’s clit to eclipse her common sense. Short and ugly guys don’t have that effect so she can see him for the loser that he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:07 PM
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You can’t afford to be a nasty person if you aren’t tall, handsome and charming. Even if you are tall, handsome and nasty you might get a few dates but if you enter a relationship it will be unhealthy and end badly. Most probably with the woman traumatised.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:04 PM
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You missed out the charm and excitement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:03 PM
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They are childish memes. You can’t expect people to take them seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 03:40 PM
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I’m pretty sure the guy walking away is the reaction she was looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 09:56 AM
1

Sorry what? Are you comparing women using vibrators to men objectifying women? In what way is a vibrator objectifying men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 09:34 AM
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Tbf the woman in the back looks like a lesbian who’s practicing how to sit on my face.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:39 PM
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Lol!! Can you read? Or should I say did you read? Because you seem to be creating a lot of this “whining”. Lucky for me this kind of “whining” is sexy in lesbian circles. Might explain why I have a better understanding of what sex with women is really like than most of the pathetic guys on here. I, of course, never said wanting to have sex with someone is objectifying. You created that. It might be surprising to you, but people often wanting to have sex with someone is often caused by their huma…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 03:34 PM
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Everyone has their kinks. But no, women are not going to be crying about losing men to dolls. It’s just not a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 03:26 PM
1

Therapy. You need therapy. Your self worth is dependent on other people’s opinions of you. That’s not healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 12:15 PM
5

Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:55 AM
24

You are massively overgeneralising and making baseless assumptions. It doesn’t matter which way you twist it, women are not concerned about men choosing sex dolls over them. I cannot quite express how foolish it is for you to genuinely think women would prefer to be treated as a sex doll than be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:49 AM
9

That just looked like a lot of Red Pill terminology strung together. Trust me, women are not going to be crying over the loss of men who want to treat them as sex dolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:34 AM
6

I just don’t think that many women view interpersonal relationships as a “market”. Whilst it’s wise to understand markets for financial planning, it’s not relevant to human connection. The men who don’t understand that will get sex dolls. Women won’t care because they’re not viewing dating as a game or similar to a financial market.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:20 AM
11

I think you are missing the fact that the men who end up buying the dolls weren’t of “value” in the “dating market” prior to purchasing their dolls. Just reducing the number of losers women have to filter out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:12 AM
10

If you view women as objects then no amount of money will save you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:04 AM
62

I think women will be just fine. We are more than happy to will stick to partners who don’t view women as objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:02 AM
0

Comparing people to cars. Great. Lucky “sexual economics” only matters to misogynistic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:08 AM
-4

Hard agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 01:46 PM
3

Who are these women that find it attractive? Women who enjoy their boundaries being trampled on?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:04 AM
16

“Slowly starting”…. Really? Hasn’t it been obvious for a long time that he’s a terrible human? Hence the Twitter ban. Anyone who follows him is being taken advantage of just as he took advantage of the women he exploited. He’s been exploiting young lonely men for a long time. It’s not news. It’s just that it’s getting harder and harder for people to try to justify his existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:38 AM
5

Erm yes, it’s kind of something that’s held us hostage for years… we are quite pissed off about it! I’m surprised you didn’t notice. If you genuinely don’t realise that you might want to do a bit more research on feminism and gender politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 07:54 PM
1

I have no idea what this means. It’s not congruent with my reality. What is it us lesbians are responding to? If women’s sexuality is “responsive” that insinuates we need a man to initiate it… so why, in a club where no men are allowed, are there so many women eating each other out in the bathrooms and touching each other up on the dance floor??? 10 minutes after we just met….
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 03:49 PM
1

Not all women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:00 PM
3

I have 3 straight sisters and lots of straight friends. We talk about this stuff in detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 04:59 PM
1

At least you’ve added a “most” in there this time. Some of us aren’t even interested in men, let alone their money
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 10:23 AM
8

Women can get their own resources these days. I understand that believing this makes you feel better about your lack of success with women, but it’s not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 08:56 AM
0

Sure…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 08:39 AM
2

Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 08:05 AM
5

It’s almost as if you think social anxiety only affects men. It doesn’t. And you missed huge parts of it out. The rumination. How can you talk about social anxiety and not talk about the torturous rumination afterwards? I am autistic with social anxiety, and attractive. No problem picking women up in clubs. The way I deal with it in other social situations is with honesty. Straight up come out and say it. But also lots of therapy. Avoiding socialising with neurotypicals. I felt I wasn’t meeting …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 03:40 PM
3

Oh look this Edgelord over here doesn’t care about feelings. Soooo cool omg! We know a lot of you don’t give a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 01:01 PM
1

Do 50/50 then. You both work part time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:29 AM
0

Well there are plenty of women out there who would happily be the provider while you go to work. Find one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:19 AM
6

I don’t think nature cares
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:47 PM
2

I only know one woman who likes it. It’s just not sensible or wise. If her husband abuses her and she’s got no means to support herself, she’s stuck with him. Kids have to witness all that. No thank you. I don’t even bother with men these days. They are of zero use to me. I’ve got a kid, what else would they be useful for? Certainly not sex that’s for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:31 PM
-1

Why are you mocking on a debate forum? Aren’t you able to construct sensible arguments. I don’t know what you think my assumption is. I am not the one who bought nature in to this. I merely shared an example of why “nature” isn’t the best at planning relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:16 PM
3

If a man managed to get me he’s gotta be a unicorn… with a pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:13 PM
1

It was the “hang bang jizz bucket” it sounds like a 16 year old wrote it. At no point did I compare women to objects, certainly not waste buckets.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 12:49 PM
-1

I never said I want to go back to anything. I don’t believe evolution works that way. But since so many men are so sure that women’s place is at home and that’s “nAtUrAl” they need to take on board all elements of nature. You can’t pick and choose. Here’s another example of nature being clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 12:37 PM
3

Never ending? Do you understand anything about the female reproductive system? My guess is you do and you are just trying to be as degrading to women as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 12:31 PM
6

Why not? No reason at all. Lots of people prefer polyamory or being single and having casual sex. Seems the manosphere likes to cry nature when it suits them…. But when it means they have to compete against other men they get insecure and refuse to fuck sexually experienced women. I personally feel we have come a bit further than simplistically boiling it down to nAtUrE.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 11:35 AM
12

Oh if you want to talk about biology….. have you ever wondered why women can have multiple orgasms and men fall asleep straight afterwards? It’s because we are not meant to be fucking one man. We are meant to be fucking lots of different males, and then it’s up to their little swimmers to compete to fertilise the egg. Should we revert back to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 11:17 AM
12

This is along the same lines as “if a woman says no the first time she’s just playing hard to get /doesn’t know what she wants, so keep asking”. Just lies men tell themselves to justify their selfishness. Nobody likes staying home and doing unpaid labour. Most women I know would rather be at a workplace where they get breaks (not a luxury you have at home). If women enjoyed it feminism wouldn’t have happened and wouldn’t be continuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 11:06 AM
1

Because the guy manipulates them, sending them mixed messages, getting their hopes and keeping them interested so he knows he can always go to her for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 08:36 AM
9

“and doesn’t stroke your ego”…. Isn’t the whole point of red pill to protect men’s egos? If you convince yourself your chances are slim you don’t get so offended when you are rejected. Just because something doesn’t make sense to you doesn’t mean it’s bullshit. It means you are lacking the capacity to understand and process it. Men who just dismiss emotions are literally cutting out a huge chunk of life, to make everything easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 08:20 PM
1

No, only women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 06:54 PM
1

If you don’t like anecdotal data stick to statistics. 40% women in US have experienced sexual violence. You’ve responded to what you call “misandrist tripe” with a study that shows homosexual people are more likely to experience ACES. If you are trying to suggest that this causes homosexuality, then you clearly haven’t read the author’s conclusion. That’s not what they are saying. Even straight identifying women respond to sexual images of women. As do bisexual women and lesbians. The only group…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 09:21 AM
1

I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 08:19 PM
1

Lol. It is emotions I’m afraid. You can talk about pulling yourself up from your bootstraps all you like, but it’s not going to change the fact women are making progress, and we are never going back.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:54 PM
1

We don’t. I know you’ve said it, but it’s not true. You have said that the job women are out here to do is unskilled & anyone could do it, but men are superior essentially. That’s hate. It’s not 1940, you cannot get away with saying that shit anymore. You’re fine to do it on Reddit, but if you consider all the female world leaders I think you can tell that lots of people disagree with you. Women are incredibly skilled and able to be successful. We do not like the housework, childcare and cooking…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:50 PM
1

I have therapy. I create plenty of space in my life to analyse these things. I’m not afraid to face up to them, admit them, challenge them. I don’t view psychoanalysis as an attack at all. But here you are bragging that you just don’t consider emotions at all. A huge, very real and challenging aspect of life. You’ve opted out apparently. I didn’t mean flipping burgers. Through a lot of this discussion I just get the sense you are missing out on huge aspects of reality. The fact you assume that I…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:37 PM
1

So your communist parents were terrible to you, and now you’ve decided to deal with it by being an emotionless capitalist. What a cop out. You aren’t strong enough to connect with emotions? Just pretend that part of life doesn’t exist, probably because it’s too complex and complicated to get your head round. It’s also bloody tough. Okay then. Have you spoken to a father of 3 who was left alone with the kids for a weekend? They always seem to say the same, that they have a new respect for the chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:14 PM
1

Who did you live in the vermin filled apartment with? A dependent family? Because that’s the reality of capitalism. Your life experiences aren’t that broad I’m afraid. Absolutely no not anyone can parent. If that were the case mental health would be better and we would have kids being taken in to care due to neglect. Despite my father being wealthy and affording to pay for help - my sisters and I were neglected. Example - we had headlice for years. They used to fall of my head in to my school bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 06:46 PM
1

Since it’s boring and unstimulating why would women want to do it? Do you have to fight daily to protect women and children? Have you ever tried making a bow and arrow? Have you seen the craftsmanship women are capable of? Mothering and raising a family is actually very challenging but bloody boring. So men should pull their weight. Don’t leave it up to women. You are missing out on everything we have to contribute. Have you ever had to put someone else’s needs before yours every day with no res…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 06:20 PM
1

Yes I am autistic. We process language on a word and phoneme level whereas neurotypical process on a sentence level. A much more simplistic but inaccurate way of using language. We don’t vaguely switch out words that don’t have the same meaning. Both ways have merits. Neither is “right” or “wrong”. “Nonce history” - admin do we really allow discussion to stoop to this level? No actually not from childhood. I have, like many many women, experienced sexual trauma though. This is one aspect of why …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 05:23 PM
1

I didn’t say it was inherently tied to rape you misread and misquoted. It’s absolutely very damaging to women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 04:10 PM
1

Hunting and fighting isn’t that hard. Hands on parenting requires high levels of organisation as well as strategising. You seem to value more superficial things whereas I personally am much deeper than that. I think about things in a nuanced way. Emotional intelligence is very valid. It indicates higher levels of reasoning and deeper thought processes. When I want to I can turn the empathy off. With people who don’t have empathy (I’m afraid to say people with your values) I don’t give any of my …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 02:11 PM
1

Have you got a screenshot of that then? You can’t gaslight someone when the words are written very clearly above. I said it is very damaging to women. It is. Me being gay doesn’t have anything to do with it, I used to sleep with men so plenty of experience there. If you are being homophonic then your opinion means even less to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 01:53 PM
1

Oh please, money buys skills. Poor people don’t have the opportunities. Society shouldn’t be punishing anyone other than criminals. Capitalism undervalues many very valuable skills. It’s turned the people in to egocentric robots. Also unsure why you think women “enjoy” being housewives. If that’s the case why feminism? I did the housewife thing for a while. It was boring, not remotely intellectually stimulating (although I did get my degree while extremely unwell AND caring for a baby). I did th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 12:34 PM
1

You’re going to tell me you’ve got a some sort of social sciences degree, and you also believe that the only People capitalism punishes is lazy people? I mean…. How would big cooperations operate if there weren’t thousand of workers working 40 hours a week for minimum wage?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 11:27 AM
1

Rebelling against your parents ideology, shocking. There’s a lot of wisdom in knowing your limitations. You are talking about what you have studied. You haven’t learned through experience. You don’t know what it’s like to be a woman, to be a housewife, there’s a lot you don’t know. There’s a lot I don’t know, I accept that. Capitalism and traditional family values benefit you the most. I can see why it would be appealing. I disagree that it’s the best way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 10:59 AM
1

You’re being vague. Yes you’re right about being funny. Definite panty dropper, definitely reflected in reality. No idea why you think it’s not. Spontaneity/sense of adventure - this is why the first date should always be an exciting experience. Boring dinner date won’t cut it. Go to a theme park, an interactive exhibition, over here in the UK we have this place called Go Ape. Basically a massive obstacle course. Anything exciting. She will then associate that feeling of excitement with you. I’m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 10:35 AM
1

No, you’re not understanding what I’m even referring to. I’m not talking about things that you would necessarily see as good. I’m just talking about aspects of life you’re not aware of. You viewpoint is so very very simplistic. If you just want to pick up ideology that’s spoon fed to you then fine, but as time goes on your comfortably rigid view will be pushed and tested.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 08:28 AM
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You don’t even know what reasons I’m talking about. But they absolutely are reflected in reality. This is evidenced by the amount of Red Pill men who find it hard to get a date and meet women. What reasons do you think I’m talking about that are not reflected in reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:28 AM
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No living in different countries won’t do it. Again a very simplistic thought process, moving location doesn’t mean you see all the aspects of life in that place. There are things going on around you in the place you are now that you’re just not tuned in to. It’s very plainly obvious from your reasoning. You are excluding so much and totally missing the nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 06:35 AM
6

Who said “men’s sex drive is inherently tied to rape”?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 06:14 AM
1

There’s so much you are not seeing here. Different cultures doing things different ways (successfully), different roles of women throughout history, nutrition, even distance from the sun (depression in Scandinavia), joy between women - you just discount all of this important nuance in order to create a world view that suits your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 09:19 PM
1

Sources? There will be all sorts of things contributing to the depression rates in Scandinavia. Capitalism only raises the standard of living for a few. It causes a lot of misery in everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 09:01 PM
1

It’s not. Capitalism is not good conducive to good mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 08:23 PM
1

No it’s not. It’s incredibly complex and your simplistic world view just isn’t getting you there. It would be lovely if it was solely down to one neat factor like family structure. I can see the appeal in believing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 08:03 PM
1

No that’s capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 07:59 PM
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Men’s sex drive is very damaging to women. Aside from that. What I’m seeing is that women are giving men lots of other reasons we may or may not be sexually attracted to them, and men are just ignoring it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 07:48 PM
1

Lol. Oh yeah I was definitely referring to talking about mundane emotional topics. Certainly not pussy for pussy. I’m just a frigid woman after all. You can call it human nature and kid yourself all you want. It’s happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 07:32 PM
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It’s hate bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 07:27 PM
1

If women are doing more work overall then they are entitled to make more decisions. They have more information. Also… I’m sorry but nature didn’t make you more exciting or interesting. At all. Trust me, women are much more exciting. Regardless of what you think, it’s not happening. Sorry, women aren’t putting up with it. You can live in your time warp, but luckily there’s enough of us to bring the patriarchy down. If Red Pillers want to bitch about it on Reddit that’s fine. It’s not going to sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 07:24 PM
2

It’s not a few of us. You can’t answer the other question. Because the answer is nothing. Nothing makes men more deserving of an enjoyable life than women are. We should have just as much liberty and freedom as we want. The man needs to share the household responsibilities. If the woman is working and doing all the labour at home she is working more than the man and therefore should be the head of the household.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 07:06 PM
1

That’s not just men. Autistic women experience the same. We might still be able to get sex, but developing relationships are just as hard. When I hook up with someone I always leave immediately in the morning so I don’t have to see the look on their face with they realise I’m an awkward autistic person. I think there are other very undesirable traits that are overlooked. For example having RP ideology is extremely unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 07:02 PM
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No we don’t. A lot of us hate it. You still haven’t given a reason why men should have a more enjoyable life than women. What gives them the right? What makes them so special?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 06:58 PM
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Why though? Why should she do the sensitive nurturing stuff? What about hobbies and social life, intellectual stimulation, career etc.? What gives the man the right to have a better life than his wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 06:54 PM
1

Why? What gives men the right to make big decisions? It’s not just housework. The friend I was referring to is actually very wealthy and in the public eye. His wife is also. They have cleaners. But the woman holds everything together, does all the caring, knows the children, knows what’s happening in their education, which needs are and are not being met. And she still goes out and works just as hard as her husband. Do you have a family? Or is the maid just clearing up after you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 06:23 PM
0

The thing about a screwdriver is it doesn’t change. It is static. In every culture where screwdrivers are used they have the same intended use. You can try to use it in different ways, but you can’t add to it, you cannot take away from it, it’s not mailable, it doesn’t grow. It is solid and tangible. A marriage is a very different beast. It’s meaning changes across cultures and time. It means different things to different people. In some places it’s a contract between families, in other places i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 05:12 PM
2

Gross. Why? What makes men better than women? A friend of mine said this recently: “If I went away for a month my family would miss me, but when I came home everything would pretty much be in order. If my wife went away for a month everything would fall apart kids would miss meds and appointments, it would be a complete mess, there would be no food in the fridge”. He’s right. In a lot of cases the woman is the one who runs the house and holds it altogether. Even women who work as well (as his wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 04:57 PM
0

Which part of what I said are you referring to, can you muster an actual counter argument or are you just going to make a judgemental statement about what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 04:18 PM
1

So you think it’s okay for a man to be “in charge” of a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 03:11 PM
1

…. So women should be owned by men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 02:59 PM
1

Then marriage should be abolished entirely shouldn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 02:54 PM
1

It’s archaic. Men are not better or more deserving of women. They do not deserve the position of “head” of the household. Men and women should be equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 02:50 PM
0

You agree they’re different though? And that a screwdriver is not equivalent to a marriage contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 02:49 PM
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No the original concept of marriage was based on the ownership of women. There’s no ifs or anything about it. You can’t pick and choose what you take from Red Pill. Saying it’s “responsibility” is the kind of thing Andrew Tate says to make his misogyny more palatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 02:48 PM
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I agree you cited and I’m not saying people shouldn’t. I’m just offering a suggestion of why people do still do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 02:18 PM
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The idea that the woman is given to the man by her father makes it abundantly clear that marriage id about ownership of women. No, if you want to use it in the traditional sense it is not remotely equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 02:18 PM
2

Saying grow up isn’t really a valid response though is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 02:16 PM
1

Just copy and pasting my other reply. To add I am aware of the different uses of the word “tool” in the English language. But see the copy and paste below. While I agree with most of you assessment of what marriage was originally for, you missed out the bit about it being a “tool” to control and oppress women. Copy & paste below Something having a function is not equal to it being a tool. You are playing a bit with language here. A tool such as a screwdriver has a very simple permanent function.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 02:13 PM
1

Something having a function is not equal to it being a tool. You are playing a bit with language here. A tool such as a screwdriver has a very simple permanent function. There is no nuance or circumstances, there are no little clauses, there are no amendments, it does not represent anything else. Is the bar for discussion really this low that I had to explain that to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 02:04 PM
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In the 1950’s yes. The concept of marriage keeps women oppressed. People don’t want to get rid of it altogether because they have attached other meaning to it. The idea of the man being the “head” is of course, archaic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 01:59 PM
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A piece of legal paper is a document. It’s not a tool. Legal documents consist of words to define terms, those terms are not tools. “You don’t debate because you are bad faith”, what do you mean by bad faith? I am not going to waste time having a stupid discussion about whether or not marriage is equivalent to a screwdriver. If you can come up with a better argument, or a genuine comparison, I might give you some of my attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 12:53 PM
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People enjoy tradition. I think we can all agree that signing a contract that to be with a person no matter what is not conducive to equality, considering that marriage is a patriarchal concept. The sentiment surrounding it is still very real for many, and they want to do it. Similar to how people who are not Christian celebrate Christmas. I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 12:24 PM
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Are you seriously trying to compare an institution to an inanimate object? If you can’t see the problem with that I don’t think there’s much point attempting ti discuss this with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 12:16 PM
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Jordan Peterson is taking advantage of young insecure men and indoctrinating them. Autistic men are particularly vulnerable. I have no time for him whatsoever. Is marriage for children? Marriage means different things to different people. For some it’s for children, but not all cases. Humans are diverse, our relationships are diverse, we all have our own reasoning. It sounds like he’s just, yet again, trying give some pseudo intellectual “hot take” while ignoring the nuance of human existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 09:42 AM
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Why do you think everything is so easy for women? Most of my friends from childhood moved out the city I live in, uni friends also. I’ve had to make a very concerted effort to go out and meet people. It’s been uncomfortable at times, but I pushed through. I’m autistic so this doesn’t come naturally to me. But sitting on my ass complaining I’ve got no friends isn’t going to make me feel better. I’ve created opportunities to meet other autistic people and form friendships. I’m also really just fed…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 08:39 AM
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I have two things to contribute. Just to clarify I am very much NOT Red Pill but…. You sound like you are able to perform neurotypically. This means you are able to “fit in” among the socially dominant neurotype, who shape the social landscape. The fact you think someone must be doomed from mental health difficulties to not be able to hold friendships shows such enormous privilege on your part, and also a severe lack of understanding of the diversity of the human minds around you. It is actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 08:14 PM
1

I’d be interested if they ever got any legal recourse after being taken advantage of by gross misogynistic men. Other than that I wouldn’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 03:53 PM
1

You’re saying slutshaming doesn’t happen while referring to women as “hoes”. Can you not see the irony in that? Firstly - stop telling everyone you’re a virgin. It’s not necessary. You are obviously not going to be on the receiving end of slutshaming comments, so you’re not a good judge. Furthermore - you probably don’t notice it because you are the one that’s doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 10:20 AM
0

I don’t know. I’m a lesbian and get plenty of women. I don’t use apps because although I get matches, they are just not great. Many people are not that invested, they don’t tell you anything about the chemistry you’ll have with someone. I just go to clubs/parties and meet people there. Maybe try that if you are frustrated with apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 09:42 AM
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Confidence as a personality trait is a different concept up a confidence interval. Paying attention to statistics is not going to make the issue of personal confidence disappear. Being confident is still attractive, confidence intervals (a different concept) are irrelevant to this. Women will always be drawn to confident men. The problem with using confidence intervals to inform your dating “strategy” is that you are using the wrong type of data. Interpersonal connection is so nuanced, it cannot…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 09:38 AM
2

I agree that you are definitely confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 05:28 PM
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I have a question - sometimes there’s the option to upvote or downvote and sometimes there’s a pill icon that you can tap. It seems to change. Why? I guess the pill one is so you can’t downvote, but does it just change at random? Is it specific to users? I don’t understand
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 05:03 PM
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I mean do you want the full psychoanalysis? There’s various reasons. It serves a purpose for me. It’s healing. I’m losing interest though which means I’ve almost got it out of my system and processed the shit I needed to process.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 04:57 PM
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Does your Spotify top 5 reveal your pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 04:48 PM
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Why would I be bitter? I don’t have any sexual attraction for men and even if I did younger men still approach me. You need to realise that not all women want interest for men. A dick is of no use to me. I’d rather a strap attached to a beautiful woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 04:25 PM
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Did you read the rest of my post? 1) I’m gay 2) I fucked a woman 7 years younger than me last week I have no issue getting women 3) I don’t care what men think of my appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:56 PM
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Lol, if a woman feels that way she needs therapy. They are few and far between. Usually women in their 30’s disapprove of age gap relationships because of dodgy power dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 02:42 PM
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I’m not debating that men prefer younger women. I am objecting to your assertion that the reason people dislike age gap relationships is because they are “past their best”. It’s simply not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:07 PM
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Fml the mental gymnastics to rationalise this stuff. How simplistic is your thinking? Not all women care about the physical attractiveness or whether they are past their “peak”. It’s such a superficial way to view things. These older women (I’m 35 so assume you include me) are just wiser and we know more shit. Maybe listen to them? Go do some research on power and control in relationships. I dislike age gap relationships when one partner is under 25. However, I really don’t care how attractive I…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:25 PM
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Gay? Really? I don’t think I’ve seen any man be called this as an insult online. It’s not 1995.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 10:09 AM
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I really dislike it. There were times in my life where, due to PTSD, I found it very threatening. I just say I am not interested because I am gay, if they try to follow that with some sort of comment that fetishises lesbians I just ignore them and continue walking, pretend I didn’t hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 08:36 AM
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I’ve had sex with men when on my period but they’d never eat me out when I was on it. Majority of men think period blood is gross. I personally think it’s a great remedy to my anaemia
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 06:38 PM
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Here’s a picture of me when she’s on her period
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 05:11 PM
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IKR. For me a period is an invitation to make a mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 04:22 PM
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The pitfall in your reasoning is that it doesn’t explain why, when the woman who asked him out loses interest and moves on, he is suddenly all over her. Men love attention and will string women along, even if they’re not interested. But as soon as she loses interest and goes after someone else he’s all over her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 03:08 PM
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Thanks. Tbh sometimes I feel lucky that my illness is easily diagnosable and there are treatments. Luckily joints can be replaced and the illness that nearly killed me is in remission. It’s just that illness is the main thing that has prevented me having sex (I do also have a child and other things mentioned in the OP), but for me physical health is the big one that gets in the way so I was surprised it wasn’t mentioned along with the other stuff. Imagine my first O after the hip replacement. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 03:02 PM
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You are lucky your joint problems don’t affect your sex life. I can’t imagine how they wouldn’t. Until I had my hip replacement every orgasm was accompanied by severe pain. Every position other than flat on my back means I have to put pressure on joints or bend them in ways they don’t want to go. All of that hurts. Big pain relief can stifle orgasms. I don’t know how much I want to go in to my health problems, but I did have a severe life threatening illnesses for many years, spent months on end…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 02:29 PM
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“Now with basically every potential issue removed”…. Tell me you have the privilege of good health without telling me you have the privilege of good health. If I was well, and had lots of opportunity it would be daily. The reality is it fluctuates for people depending on all sorts of circumstances. Period isn’t an issue. I don’t know why hets are so squeamish about this. I‘ve eaten a girl out when on her period and received while on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 02:02 PM
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I’d just ignore him. Why would a guy be asking that? If I had an OF account I wouldn’t split the pay with anyone. No man is going to be making money off my body. I would potentially consider end OF for feet but I’m not getting any other bits out to please men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 12:02 PM
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The penetration thing is silly, it doesn’t account for lesbian relationships. I think the study just shows the double standard, that women are shamed for sleeping with more people and men are encouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 11:59 AM
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I think a lot of women know that a lot of guys will hit it once then lose interest. So maybe these women are waiting with guys they don’t want to lose interest in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:40 PM
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It’s so dependant on the person. Men will filter women out on the app based on age without even seeing their picture. I’m mid thirties and hooked up with a 28 year old on the weekend, when she found out I was older than her she was really shocked, she assumed I was younger. Guessed my age wrong by 8 years. Men who can’t afford to be picky need to be more open minded about age. I do think a huge part of it is the fact that older women are more confident and have stronger boundaries. Some men feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:14 AM
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I definitely don’t chase and Chads. I’m all about the women. They don’t have to be tall or wealthy. Just a good connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 07:42 PM
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What’s Chad chasing?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 07:41 PM
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People from dysfunctional homes who have had therapy can actually be some of the best partners. Relationships can struggle in so many different ways. There is certainly a lot of generational trauma that contributes to things like the cycle of abuse. I think people need therapy to break that cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 07:40 PM
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I’ve spent too much time here. My phone just autocorrected “had” to “Chad”.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 07:35 PM
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I’m not saying I’m personally offended - but it’s an inflammatory word and people who use it are usually trying to get a reaction from women or they just spend too much time in places where it’s an accepted term.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 07:21 PM
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I didn’t question whether you have free speech or not, you are using a gender based insult, your post isn’t neutral. You know it’s inflammatory. You mentioned men in unhappy relationships in your post already. Deciding if someone is denying reality is difficult if you are discussing something subjective. I didn’t say no larger women get laid, but they aren’t all getting these attractive men with ease. Most aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 07:06 PM
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Hearing about the SlutWalk doesn’t change my opinion at all. If your argument is that some women are reclaiming the word, then you still don’t get to use it. Only the people who would be called that as an insult can respectfully use it. You also need to understand that we are not all one individual woman. There are many women. Some will find it offensive, others won’t. Women no longer being forced to stay in unhappy marriages with cheating men is definitely a silver lining. Tinder experiments ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:39 PM
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Did you really use the S word and think that’s neutral? You have spent too much time in the manosphere. It’s an insult. Are you saying you want women to be oppressed again? How come you didn’t mention cheating or abusive men in your post? You only mentioned women potentially stepping out on the relationship. The stuff you said about obese women easily getting attractive men that’s just not reality I don’t know where you picked that up from but it’s an untrustworthy source.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:15 PM
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Lol, no. Lots of women reject femininity. It’s not because they’re “too masculine”, it’s that tall guys are more attractive to most women. Do you think men don’t like overweight women because the guy is too feminine and needs the woman to be small so he can feel more masculine?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:29 PM
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No. Literally overweight round women. I know women like this that get a lot of attention from men. People have different preferences. Just because you can’t imagine having that preference it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:31 AM
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Does it actually matter if they aren’t complaining about being single? If they were to set up a whole movement based on how unfair it is that they can’t get a man, then maybe you could ask what they’re doing to improve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:52 AM
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I’m surprised you have lasted 100 years! Yes, men from the Caribbean often like this look. There’s definitely plenty of guys out there who like bigger women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:49 AM
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What a reach. No. It doesn’t explain all the slim women who prefer taller dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 07:37 AM
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A lot of cultures consider bigger women more attractive. In their culture it’s grown to signify wealth/privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 07:29 AM
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A lot of guys won’t admit it until they are drunk or only in the company of a bigger woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 07:27 AM
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I do think sexuality can be fluid. It’s fine to fluctuate. If you’re happy and fulfilled that’s what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 06:41 PM
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The first night I hooked up with my friend all our other friends freaked out and tried to keep us apart. The dad of the girl whose house we are at had to have a talk with them saying it was okay to be lesbian, but despite the fact we were all liberals, back in those days it still caused panic. I often got used by girls who wanted to kiss another girl to impress a boy. I went in to denial after my gf went to hospital. I ended up with a boy, then an older man. He became my husband and never let me…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 06:30 PM
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As a teen my first sexual experiences were with girls which I found shameful. I viewed sex with men as the thing I needed to do to get their approval and so I wouldn’t be left alone. By the time I was 21 it had been long enough since I’d been with a girl that by that stage I thought pleasurable sex was masturbation and sex with a man was a performance to prove my worth as a woman. I’ve since had a lot of therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 05:54 PM
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You missed a sentence off the end of that: “so I can disagree and engage you in a back and forth you don’t have time for”. Sorry, not today. I’m going to a party in a bit and o need to do my grooming and get ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 05:18 PM
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Why are you asking me?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 05:14 PM
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You don’t understand - men do use this to justify rape. My friend’s husband literally did it on Wednesday. He says he can’t help himself because it’s a need. He genuinely doesn’t believe what he does is wrong and can’t understand why she thinks it’s not a need. He thinks it’s her fault for not fulfilling his need. If you are going to promote concepts like sex being a need you need to take accountability for where they actually end up. If you want to stick with the Red Pill you have to face the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 05:06 PM
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I get the point you are trying to make thanks. This isn’t about prohibiting things, it’s about the result of promoting the idea that sex is a need, and the impact it has on others. Talking about the fact food is a need, and seeing it as a need, does not cause people to justify traumatising others. Feeding the narrative that sex is a need encourages people to believe they are entitled to traumatise others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 04:55 PM
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Ah yes, because the minor financial impact a food theft has on a business is equivalent to traumatising a person. Because food is a need there are places link food banks, soup kitchens etc. If sex is a need why aren’t there government sponsored brothels for incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 04:39 PM
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I think it’s important to highlight why sex being called a need is dangerous. It’s something men use to justify raping their wives. They genuinely believe they “need” to and it’s her “fault” that she’s not going along with it. This isn’t rare. It happened to my friend a few nights ago. It’s happened to me. RP men will claim that they don’t mean men should go out raping people, but the reality is that a lot of guys with this opinion will, which is why it’s so important to nip that in the bud. Ahe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 02:26 PM
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We have outlets for that. It’s called a fleshlight.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 02:19 PM
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I go to therapy. I discuss my time here with my therapist. Ultimately this sub is fulfilling a need and I just need to get it out my system. Tbh I’ve been much less interested in this sub the past week and I think I may be reaching that point where I’ve processed the thing this was helping me process.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 08:49 AM
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It sucks vulnerable young men in and really distorts their world view. It’s almost irresistible to a naive guy who wants to have sex but isn’t having luck and is feeling inadequate because of it. It gives them a sense that they can control it and make it happen for themselves, and that the blame is not with them but with women. It distorts their view so they cannot see women for who they really are (people not objects). Many of them feel the “dating game” is impossible, and cognitive bias means …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 08:38 AM
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“Making men wait”, “if she’s given it up”… gross. Sex isn’t the sort of thing your date should be resisting. If the chemistry is there they might sleep together quickly, if it’s not then they won’t. Sometimes chemistry takes time to grow. Hormones also influence things. If she felt hornier earlier on with someone else doesn’t necessarily mean you don’t have a solid connection. Relationships can take various paths. You don’t need to be comparing things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:11 PM
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Kristen Stewart
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 06:27 PM
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Authenticity is the thing I value the most. Can’t stand fake people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 06:26 PM
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Emotional abuse is a bit more than putting someone down once! It’s chipping away at every aspect of their self-esteem. Controlling them, needing to be dominant, bulldozing over their boundaries, not caring for their needs. Google the Power & Control Wheel.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 06:24 PM
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Women don’t need to put ourselves down, men do it for us. If you actually read RP men’s responses to female issues like rape and DV they always blame the woman. She could just walk away, she shouldn’t have worn that blah blah blah. People like Andrew Tate are just taking advantage of young men. They’re not as smart as they try to make themselves sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 06:21 PM
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The highest rates of domestic abuse are women in their early 20’s. I am not sure about energy. I don’t think women in their 30’s have any less energy than women in their 20’s. 35 is not 65! Emotional baggage. I see that. But I also know a lot of younger women will avoid older men because of their baggage. The vulnerability of the early twenties is definitely something that attracts men, even if they can’t put their finger on exactly what it is they are drawn to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 06:24 PM
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I just say I’m lesbian. Usually that shuts them up. Sometimes they ask if they can “join” or “watch”. I don’t reply and just walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:27 PM
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No. But I’m lesbian so I don’t really know. I was going on dates with men because I was in denial but I’ve never had sexual feelings towards them the way I do with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:34 PM
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I’m 35 but still get asked for ID pretty much every time I buy alcohol or go to a bar (drinking age is 18 here). Women are easier to abuse in their early twenties and I think for a lot of men that’s a big part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:09 PM
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The height thing. I haven’t dated men in yeeeeears but when I did I couldn’t date anyone shorter than me. I don’t know why. I think for me the biggest advantage of dating men was the feeling of being protected. I just didn’t feel protected by shorter guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:59 AM
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Women for sure are more responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:29 AM
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I just say I’m lesbian. Usually that shuts them up. Sometimes they ask if they can “join” or “watch”. I don’t reply and just walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:27 AM
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“It is well known that women use validation and sex to manipulate men” - source??? This is a RP myth. There are manipulative men and manipulative women. But yeah, the men we hate the most are abusers and rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:00 AM
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You seem a little put out by this. Are you sure you weren’t hoping to sleep with her? It’s usually men who want to have casual sex but judge women for doing the same. I think generally women judge based on how he’s treating her. For example if it’s clear he’s just after casual sex and doesn’t lead her on or ghost her then it’s okay. But if he treats her badly by ghosting or something then women will get upset. The woman you were speaking to was expressing a double standard but I don’t think it’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 09:51 AM
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Often it’s mummy issues. Autism makes guys more vulnerable to it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:38 AM
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The relationship with his mum is key.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:36 AM
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Lied to by Disney, society and films. Many women will put up with all sorts from men because “I just lOvE him sooo much”. It is really difficult to know what to say to women in these situations. The feeling they think is “love” often isn’t. It’s either lust, infatuation, even fear. But they use the societal idea of love to justify clinging on when objectively they are being abused. Songs like “Bad Things” by MGK & Camilla Cabello (while it’s a banger) promote this idea of passionate love being p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 07:22 PM
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We don’t really know what happened in Idaho yet either. I’ve heard speculation it was an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 06:01 PM
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It’s terrifying. I think a lot get sucked in to this when they’re still minors. RP targets autistic boys too and gives them a very easy to follow set of rules for what is, in reality, deeply nuanced and complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:28 PM
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Are you saying all sex needs to be resulting in children? Sex feels good. Why deny yourself that pleasure? It builds your relationship stronger, brings you closer together. Reproductive sex often results in babies. Babies are expensive and need a lot of time and attention dedicated to them. Families with lots of children are simply unable to meet those children’s needs. If one partner doesn’t want the sex then don’t do it. But I could never ever get behind the idea of only having sex to make bab…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 04:30 PM
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I have already commented on this but I felt compelled to comment again…. I just want to point out that when catching fish you are hunting to kill something. Obviously the fish wouldn’t give you instructions on how to kill them. You’re not hunting women. You are looking to make a genuine human connection. If you view it as a hunt you are a predator.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 03:52 PM
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I think one of the problems is that underpinning The Red Pill is a hatred of women. Men who are drawn in to it will already have deep psychological reasons to distrust and dislike women. A lot of men will read TRP stuff and just discount it straight away because they know it’s not reality and that women aren’t all awful people. I think there are a lot of teenage or early twenties guys here who don’t have real life experience of the dating world other than making an OLD profile and not getting ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 03:40 PM
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Lol. Yes. Just call me Lesbian Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:48 PM
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Hang on. If the guy knows they don’t want the same thing, why does he continue the conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:45 PM
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Why doesn’t the man “trust” the woman to take the lead?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:37 PM
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Why would she trust him more than herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:34 PM
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We….. we aren’t something to be caught though. If you view women as a fishing exercise you are a misogynist who is objectifying her. So you don’t deserve a woman. Until you can learn to treat a woman like a person and form a connection with them, you are just going to have shit relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:14 PM
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Nobody is average to everyone. “Value” of people isn’t a constant. It’s not like every woman values the same qualities. You cannot value humans. We are diverse, we have different needs and desires. Average Adam is probably Amazing Adam to some women and Asshole Adam to others. I don’t date men. If I did I’d be looking out for someone who respects boundaries, I personally would value autism - in my (lesbian) online dating profile I specifically state I would prefer to match with other neurodiverg…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:10 PM
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People’s value to others isn’t consistent. What one man values another may not. If you aren’t compatible move on. I think there’s something unspoken about going on here. Women are not attracted to disdain for women. There’s a difference between a guy realising someone isn’t compatible and stopping seeing them, and a guy who is intentionally trying to devalue a woman out of spite. The venom associated with misogyny is very obvious to us. If the judgement is quietly made in good faith it’s fine. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:01 PM
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No - it’s more like men catcalling and saying disgusting overly sexual things. That’s obviously not going to end in a date. If I go to a straight bar then 100% will be approached by men. As for women caring about “petty” issues. Lol. Our main concern above things like height and money is always safety. So looking out for red flags, making sure to meet in a public location and have someone know where you are. That kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:21 AM
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No it is absolutely based in misogyny and the patriarchy. There’s plenty of literature to back this up. Women mean a lot to abusive men because they believe the woman is there possession. Women are more likely to be killed by their partner, they experience more secret abuse and have higher levels of fear than men. Example: RP idea - sex is a need for men Resulting behaviour - man rapes partner when she refuses sex. The man feels justified in doing that because he believes he is entitled to sex. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:04 AM
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The way the patriarchy views women as possessions is why men treat women the way they do. They have this sense of entitlement/ownership over us that causes them to think they should be able to control us. This is what underpins most DV. Of course there are other scenarios where women are the aggressors, but the patriarchy makes it much easier for men to justify it, so they do it more. They genuinely believe they are entitled to treat their partner however they want. People like your partner also…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 11:16 PM
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I just want to add to that that the connection and sexual compatibility with someone is also a big factor. Somebody can be vanilla af but if they meet a vanilla partner they will both have great sex. Focusing on finding someone who is very sexually attractive is the behaviour of someone who has very little experience of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:33 PM
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I’m sorry that happened to you. It’s not okay and I hope you are safe from her now. It’s true males don’t talk as much about being in violent relationships. Hopefully Johnny Depp has gone some way to softening the stigma around that. However, it’s much more common for the perpetrator to be male, and lots more women are killed by their spouses than men are. Patriarchal values, that The Red Pill take to the extreme, make it easy for men to justify their behaviour to themselves. For example the con…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 09:54 AM
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With respect, your highschooler is not a “woman” yet. Neither are her friends. I wouldn’t base your opinion on women’s friendships on teenagers. I’ve seen men conspire against women and backstab them a hell of a lot. But yes, many of us are incredibly supportive of one another and in times of crisis we are there for one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 07:03 PM
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We are honest with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 03:02 PM
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Well gender is a complicated topic. I would like to experience having a male body. I want to know what it feels like to penetrate a woman with a real penis. I would hate it for other reasons though. Men seem to have superficial friendships, they don’t support one another well. They complain women build one another’s ego too much, but they don’t complement their male friends and try to boost their self esteem, I love the way women support each other. Unfortunately in my adult life I have come acr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 01:41 PM
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Another one is that we are not all the same woman. “A woman told me X so it must be true for all women”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 10:20 AM
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Another one is they don’t get how common domestic and sexual abuse of women is, and how difficult It is to escape it. I think a lot of guys think it’s a rare thing that happens and a woman can just walk away if it happens or it’s her fault. They complain about unmet sexual needs and how hard it is for them - as if it’s worse than living with PTSD, forced pregnancies etc. Usually instead of accepting it’s the man’s fault for SA’ing, they find a way to blame the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 10:12 AM
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That we are people just like them. So many men see women as mythical being who either have sexual value to them or not. They don’t see us as people, just like their male friends. They aren’t interested in getting to know women unless they are interested in sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 09:43 AM
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Their lack of knowledge astounds me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:15 PM
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18.5 is a bare minimum. I checked before I posted that comment and was surprised to see it said 19 (I thought it was lower). You are absolutely right it’s largely based on fat percentage, but there are still outliers. I’ve met women who stopped menstruating at 20, whereas mine doesn’t stop until 13 even with very low body fat percentage. There’s no way I could have supported a pregnancy. Our bodies all prioritise different things when malnourished. Some lose periods first, others have heart prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:29 PM
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This poem is a good way of showing how pressure to be feminine leads to eating disorders. Men never question how much space they deserve to take up. https://youtu.be/zQucWXWXp3k
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:15 PM
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Femininity is very restrictive for many women. It forces us to limit ourselves. Most women who are in their 30’s now had a lot of pressure on us as kids to be “feminine”, which we associate with not being able to freely express ourselves and having to hold us back. We associate it with never wanting to make a fuss or cause a scene and as a result having to go along with things we don’t want to do I don’t think it matters that you or any other guy finds boss bitch attitude off putting. Strong wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:09 PM
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I’m surprised it surprised you. If you see the way guys on this sub talk about women it tells you all you need to know about how rampant misogyny still is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 11:17 AM
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“And we’re done” what a relief.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:39 PM
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Slut is not a normal adjective. It’s an insult. Don’t pretend you don’t know that. If the actor on their screen is context then so is the guy working out in the gym. I don’t care if some women on here claim they can go long periods without sex without noticing, lots can’t. Women absolutely feel sexual frustration. There is no ifs buts or only extreme outliers about it. It may happen more often with men, but it happens with women too. Changes are based on hormone levels which are more variable in…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:55 PM
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I wasn’t talking about a strip club. I’ve never been to one. It’s just a lesbian bar. By stalls you meant toilets right? It’s just the toilets of the lesbian bar. Describing behaviour I have just said I partake in as “slutty” is clearly a roundabout way of calling me a slut. I’m just pointing that out in case you were trying to slip that one by. In fact what you are actually saying by banging on about me being an “extreme outlier” is that I’m super weird and slutty. Yet in the same post you have…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:22 PM
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The hardships women face because of the patriarchal values that underpin Red Pill ideology are so much more profound than not getting enough sex. The attitude that men “need” sex results in women getting raped daily. In fact my friend got pregnant a few months ago because her husband felt that way. He insisted she couldn’t have another baby and forced her to get a termination which was an extremely traumatic ordeal for her. She has to live with those memories and the consequences of what happene…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:08 PM
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I’m not an extreme outlier though. 19% of the women in your survey results experience it daily. It happens to straight women when they see men working out in vests or whatever they like. When you say Women’s sex drive is reactive do you mean you think we only get horny when we are touched? How do you explain the sales of female sex toys? “Also would you take the same woman in to the stall and eat her pussy within 5 minutes”. Absolutely if she was up for it. I think the soonest I’ve done that is …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:42 PM
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We know nothing about Average Adam! Only very superficial parameters that don’t speak to his true value as a person. Qualities Average Adam might have: he might be a good listener, he might be very caring, he might funny, he might be really good at boosting his partner’s confidence when they are feeling like a failure, he might stick up for his partner when her family are being mean to her…. He might also be selfish, uncaring, self esteem sucker, we don’t know. But do Average Adam is feeling lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:25 PM
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Who are you aiming this at? Why? Nobody said anything about “giving up”, in fact lots of women don’t try because they don’t want to. So who cares? All I did was point out that body fat percentages are not comparible between sexes. If you think you’re talking to someone who could potentially be offended by what you’re saying - I’ve never weighed more than 115lbs so you’re aiming it at the wrong person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:37 PM
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It’s much more difficult. I don’t think excuses come in to it. It’s not like being obese is equivalent to bad behaviour that needs to be “excused”. It doesn’t affect anyone else but the person whose body it is. There’s nothing to excuse or explain to anyone. If a woman is bigger and happy being bigger then fine for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:26 PM
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I’m not attracted to men so I can’t comment on physique, but what the gym has done for my self esteem (not in terms of looks, but appreciation for my body and how I can build on skills etc) has definitely made me more attractive to others. If you are going and gradually increasing weights and difficulty, especially if you were terribly weak to begin with as I was, you just get this new respect for yourself and what you can do. I can’t see how that wouldn’t make someone with low self esteem more …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:23 PM
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Of course makeup can create angularity and bone structure! You can fake good bone structure with the right kind of shading and highlighting. Make up is very versatile. Done how it’s done on women may not improve things, but if you shade it to create stronger jaw line and brow bone it would make you more handsome. Also the body fat percent thing is ridiculous. Men naturally have much lower body fat than women. It’s much easier to maintain low body fat as a man. You cannot compare body fat percent…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 02:11 PM
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So how do you explain women losing their period when they’re underweight? A quick Google will debunk your theory. A BMI below 19 will often stop ovulation completely as the body detects famine and that’s not a safe environment for a baby. The supposed ideal body weight men like women at is a BMI of 18.5. So when they have already stopped ovulating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:57 PM
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They’re focusing on the wrong guy. There are many other Red Pill scammers who are much more known and well regarded in the Red Pill community. Red Pill is essentially taking advantage of young men with low self esteem and isolating further. These guys just want to sell books and get views. They don’t care about the negative impact on vulnerable (often autistic) young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:36 AM
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Actually - if you’re so sure women don’t get turned on by visuals, why don’t you send your girlfriend over to mine and tell her to give me a lap dance. As long as she doesn’t touch me I’ll be dry as the dessert right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:07 AM
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The only one of those links that opens is the first. It shows that 19% of women think about sex several times a day. Which supports what I’m telling you which is that women do get spontaneously turned on and therefore know the feeling, even if it is to a lesser extent than men. Having said that, the link is meaningless because it’s not science, it appears to be results from an amateur survey with no methodology or discussion. No context added. I don’t know what’s in the other two links, but I fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:02 AM
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You are wilfully missing the point here. “Who decides which problems are worthy”, why are you even asking this. Everyone has their own opinion. They don’t need to share if. There’s no official registry of hardship. Lots of people would love if sex was their only unmet “need”. That’s a fact. If it upsets you then maybe you have more things to be grateful about in your life than you first thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:49 AM
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I’ll be honest, I didn’t read your essay. You’re an incredibly bitter person. If you think defending women from misogyny is such a bad thing then fine. Think what you want to think. We all have our own moral compasses. Whatever mental gymnastics you want to use, there is no excuse for the hate Red Pill promotes. It’s not only bad for women it’s taking advantage of boys/men who fall down that rabbit hole. But as long as those “men’s rights activists” keep getting those likes and views and selling…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:44 AM
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I don’t know who told you women don’t get turned on by random men, but they’re very wrong. I don’t get turned on by men but I do by women. I am XX chromosome and I assure you on a hot day when women are wearing next to nothing I always put a party liner in my underwear because I will get turned on by random women. Women do definitely experience spontaneous natural arousal and sex drive. 100% I’m not going to read your whole comment I’m afraid because it’s a massive block of text. Whoever has bee…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:30 PM
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Did you have any particular woman in mind when you were spitting that bile? If you actually read what you’ve written, and think for a minute. Is this really a good reflection on you? People have diverse thinking styles. You can’t assume every one who asks that question is insincere or asking for the same reason. This is the kind of shit autistic kids get in to trouble for all the time at school. They ask genuinely sincere straightforward questions and the teacher thinks they’re messing about so …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 08:31 PM
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You were referencing reducing the mental health burden for people experiencing a range of non-gendered experiences. Yes we need to improve mental health. In fact, I don’t think you will find a single woman on this dub who doesn’t want to improve mental health, especially of red pilled men. If you want to say that you weren’t insulting the intelligence of people who ask that question then fine. I think your comment speaks for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:52 PM
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I hope you realise a clitoris is a tiny penis but with double the nerve endings. But no, I wasn’t referring to “blue balls”. I was referring to horniness, when you can’t think about anything but sex, get turned on frequently by mundane stimuli, generally just long for fucking all the time. Women are very familiar with that feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:47 PM
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You need to decide first what the need is with sex and men. Loneliness is felt by all genders. Feeling excluded again, is not a distinctly male experience. The only part of being long-term single that is (usually) more intense in men is the testosterone driven sex drive. So when we are talking about sex being a need that differs between males and females, we aren’t talking about loneliness etc. Purely unmet sexual desire. I see you’ve made a real effort to drive home the idea that I’m “stupid” b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:42 PM
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Hearing “women are obliged to have sex with men” is not something I ever want to hear so you certainly didn’t disappoint me. I asked the questions on your post but I think the same thing multiple times a day on this sub. When people say “everyone goes through stuff” it is so invalidating to people who genuinely have a much harder time of it than most. We do all have challenges, but some people legitimately go through extremely difficult things. If you have had genuine needs (like food or water) …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:36 PM
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Hang on let me get this straight. It has boundaries…. Yet she has to do everything you ask. So do you get a list of all the things she won’t do before you get together, so that you don’t end up asking her to do things she doesn’t want to? Is this a genuine BDSM situating? Like are you meeting her on fetlife and coming up with an agreement first or are you just hoping to find a woman like this in the wild? How soon will you tell her of this requirement?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:38 PM
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Oh absolutely. I dated men for years because I was messed up in the head. With women, I’ve slept with women who weren’t my usual type but once we got dancing the connection grew.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:33 PM
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First clarify what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:31 PM
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“Non compliance” I’m surprised you actually wrote that down. Even on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:23 PM
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It’s not the same as a man telling a woman what PMS, menopause, postpartum depression feels like. Regardless of the (vastly exaggerated by the RP community) difference in intensity of sex drive, women still get horny and get desperate for sex. They know what the feeling feels like and can imagine what it would be like amplified. Cis guys have never experienced PMS. They have nothing to draw on. The comparison would be if men got a milder version of PMS each month. But they get nothing. So they h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:17 PM
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Honestly - as someone who has overcome a lot of challenges in my life and had more than my fair share of shit to deal with - seeing this kind of shit just makes me aghast at how a lot of you Red Pill guys have had it so incredibly easy in life. Go through some real life challenges and have genuine needs unmet and trust me, you’ll lose your sex drive pretty quickly! It’s pathetic. My opinion will be considered invalid as I’m not male, so what I want to know is this: if it’s a “need” what’s the so…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:11 PM
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Hang on…. If you women don’t understand the “visceral reaction” a guy gets to knowing her past how can you possibly understand the feeling a woman gets about height? You are comparing a physical characteristic with the past. “Women of this generation are too far gone”. Oh please. We are going in one direction, progress. Either come with us or stand at the back sulking. Women don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:00 PM
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You: Have you forgotten we are on a debating sub Reddit and you’re not supposed to make it personal? Also you: If you’re lesbian you’ve likely always been around anti conformist people. Ooookay. You’re the one that bought your personal dating history in to this. Look, you need to understand that lesbians are people. We don’t grow up in a bubble. We don’t get to choose our family members. We come from all different backgrounds, some of us have dated or even married men in the past. This line of “…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:49 AM
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I find the way guys on this sub use “sources” is frankly quite embarrassing. They think they are being clever but for someone who actually knows how to critically review a scientific paper it’s cringe. I think they literally just read the abstract and if it is vaguely related to their point they think they’ve struck gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:30 AM
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“Women’s mind loves money”…. You don’t understand Women’s bodies. No woman is getting wet thinking about a bank balance. Some women might be drawn to it for other reasons, but the knowledge of money doesn’t literally cause physiological responses. Again - if men have money then they probably have more sex and are therefore better at it and more likely to bring her to orgasm. Also -we aren’t carbon copies of each other. Lots of women find materialistic money driven men a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:28 AM
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Eh? I didn’t say anything about the hourglass figure. I was talking about men preferring women at a BMI of 18.5 (hence the reference to fertility).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:52 AM
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Ah yes, because you grew up in a village that “proves” media aren’t influencing beauty standards. They very much are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:32 AM
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If you’ve never paid for dates then your very own dating experience is contradicting what you are trying to say. Who paid on those dates? Santa Claus? “If you’re lesbian it’s likely you’ve only been among anti conformists” ah yes, because when you swear allegiance to the flag of pussy you have to cut ties with all your het friends and family members. Fml. It doesn’t quite work like that. You still have to listen to your het friend’s dating drama. This is a classic example of mental gymnastics to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:29 AM
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So you chimed in and said my comment wasn’t constructive? How…… constructive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 07:54 PM
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I’m not convinced of that. You are talking about women who are more than capable of supporting themselves financially so it’s not his money they are after. I think it’s just that he’s a kind, decent bloke who is very funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 07:53 PM
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We weren’t dating so wasn’t a break up, but I was hooking up with a woman a few weeks ago and she kept whispering in my ear “don’t ever leave me” and “you won’t leave me will you?” Suffice to say I didn’t text her back after that. We had literally just met that night.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:10 PM
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Erm…. My sex doesn’t mean my attraction is any more different than your male friend’s. We are all individual. But that BMI isn’t particularly fertile and guys have been conditioned by media to find it appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:08 PM
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Well it does say a lot about the men who don’t want to date older woman. They want someone with weak boundaries who they can manipulate. This is why she gaps are so problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:27 PM
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I mean… it’s not fault logic. Skills always get better with practice. Wealthy men attract more women therefore have more practice at sex. I can assure you the clitoris doesn’t understand money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:25 PM
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That’s not a reflection on agreeableness. There’s a lot of reasons for that phenomenon that aren’t related to agreeableness. I don’t think lower agreeableness automatically indicates “cunt”. I think it often just means they are less likely to be taken advantage of and more likely to have developed the skills to put boundaries up and say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:43 PM
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Try to find evidence that older women are more agreeable in romantic/sexual relationships. I’ll wait…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:23 PM
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They don’t humiliate those workers, they humiliate themselves. Even if they did have a “need” to humiliate teenage workers - how would that be linked to sexual frustration? Are you trying to insinuate that these woman would actually want to be intimate with a spotty greasy teen who doesn’t know how to have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:56 PM
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That really is a reach. It’s not true. I think with age women become less agreeable (hence some men exclusively dating young women). They’re not upset over lack of dick, they don’t have time to waste over it. They’ve got rabbits, magic wands, satisfyers. They don’t need a man or male attention to maintain self esteem. I think a lot of these women are just entitled because of their ethnicity and social status, or they just don’t have time for bullshit. If hormones are coming in to it then that’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:44 PM
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Exactly. You’d have kids pointing your out in the street and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:39 PM
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Wow that’s a lot of text. If a woman doesn’t want to sleep with you yet it’s not her “duty” or whatever to do it just because you think it’s unfair her previous partners had sex with her sooner. It sounds like a very childish kind of “no fair” style of thinking. If you want sex straight away and she doesn’t then you aren’t compatible and you can break up with her. Moaning about it, saying it’s unfair, getting upset about it, that’s a different story. That shows entitlement. If you are going to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:38 PM
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To be fair if you were that talk and had a huge D you would probably be at a disadvantage. Women would find it intimidating and while size can be important for some women, no woman likes an overly large D because it’s painful and uncomfortable for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:31 PM
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Women have been putting up with this for years. It’s a huge part of the feminist movement and has caused mental health problems for generations of young women. Hence the epidemic in eating disorders. More and more men are developing ED’s now though, as the pressure on men’s appearance is starting to rise. It’s still nothing like the pressure put on women, My experience (had long term severe eating disorder, in and out of hospital for 10 years so met a LOT of fellow patients) is that most of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:30 PM
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No, I’m autistic so that’s not really my sense of humour style. just assumed you had Marfan’s or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:17 PM
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I’m autistic and considered hot/sexy. I also go to the gym, I’m toned. Sadly for autistic men I’m lesbian. I have to actively avoid spaces where there are straight autistic guys because they either outright sexually harass me, or you can see the hope and shift in mood when they find out I’m autistic and I honestly just feel really bad letting them down. So yeah, I only mix in autistic queer circles. Autistic people can be very hyper sexual and very kinky. I agree they can be very stuck in terms …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:10 PM
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Men like it. I still got asked out and catcalled at BMI of 14. I was very obviously extremely unwell. When I went below 14 the cat calls would stop but there’s still the odd creep. Overheard a group of men pointing me out to their friend saying “you like them like that don’t you?”… you like “them” on death’s door. Ooookay then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:57 PM
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Below 18.5 is underweight. Close to anorexic. Many women have lost their period at that weight anyway. So it doesn’t make sense in terms of fertility. These college age kids were most probably influenced by the media. They also haven’t slept with larger women so they don’t know. I was always in to slim women and then I got drunk and started dancing with this larger woman, the connection between us was amazing so we ditched the bar and went back to her hotel room. Best sex of my life. I learned m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:52 PM
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That’s an oddly specific situation to have seen happen “many times”. I call bs on your story. It sounds like RP lore rather than reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:48 PM
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That’s wild! You should do an AMA.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:43 PM
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7’10 - is that a typo?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:50 PM
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Most women will pick up that he likes her and hint that she’s not interested before it gets to the stage of him asking her out. The whole PUA shit us just manipulating women in to sleeping with you. So yes of course that’s toxic. Just view women as people rather than sex objects, get to know them as people and if there’s a connection things will take off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:52 AM
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You are missing the key knicker-dropper that RP men miss every time. HUMOUR. He’s a comedian so of course he’s going to get a lot of pussy. Women love funny guys. Why is it so difficult for RP guys to take on board the fact that humour is a huge advantage on dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:10 AM
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That’s a myth. We are actually capable of seeing more shades of grey in a situation. But you don’t need to be a particularly nuanced thinker to know that when a woman calls her friend “queen” she is not literally saying she’s a royalty. To be so bitter over women complimenting each other is just sad tbh. I’m sorry you haven’t received more compliments in your lifetime. The bitterness isn’t well hidden.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:47 AM
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“Love” has a lot to answer for. It’s so easy to misunderstand things like lust or familiarity for love. Love seems to be a word used by many to justify putting up with objectively abusive behaviour. I blame Disney and Fairytales.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:53 PM
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You have me multiple lists? Do you know what a list is? Actually don’t answer I’m bored of you now. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:44 PM
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I feel sorry for your wife. And the fact you have a wife makes it all the more cringe that you answered the original question the way you did. I’m not embarrassing myself at all, it is very obvious you are trying to dominate and embarrass me. If you know RP so well you would have ended this ages ago by literally giving me the list. Or answering one of my questions. I really hope you don’t use the same tactics in your relationship because if you do she needs a DV hotline number.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:37 PM
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I’m not “freaking out”. I’m calling you creepy because of multiple behaviours in this post and I’m telling you - if you are struggling to get laid then this is the problem. Not your height or bank balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:29 PM
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Pahaha dude. This is embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:27 PM
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Why are you trying to tell me what to do? So creepy. It’s not the only creepy thing you’ve done either. Do you really have so little self awareness? Or are you being creepy on purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:24 PM
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If you are looking for those nuanced and honest conversations about sex you will have better luck with lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:22 PM
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Have you read any of what I’ve written on this post? Shall we count how many times in the past 24 hours I have asked different red pillers to explain what their biggest gripes are and what we can do do help? Everyone is incapable of answering me. If you want to put your creepy stalker vibes to good use why don’t you go and count that up? I’ve prompted you personally several times to tell me what the red pill principles are and instead you “dumped” ancient links to an old forum. List them. Go for…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:16 PM
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Oh please how pathetic. “You’re not the type to make a submission post” anyone want a 101 on how to try and manipulate and dominate people while purposefully ignoring the difficult questions? I’m embarrassed for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:08 PM
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Dude no - the boundary of kissing is one she may be receptive too IF she has already told you the status of that boundary verbally like “just so you know I don’t kiss on the first date” then you are crossing her boundary. If you haven’t discussed it you don’t technically know where she stands on this. Why do men on this sun struggle so much to understand boundaries?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:05 PM
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Oh god you said “so you admit”. This isn’t a discussion it’s an exercise in dominance for you. A really poor one too because you’re not even trying to look like you know what you’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:01 PM
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In theory, but you understand…… those things don’t improve sexual performance right? Any woman or man who has a lot of sex will inform you that it’s not always about looks it’s about connection. The women who might not look beautiful can be amazing in bed and the really hot ones can be shite.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:56 PM
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I guess this thread is just full of a disproportionate minority of women on this sub then. The Red Pill men on here say women will only sleep with “alphas”, they don’t mention how much the woman enjoys the sex. They suggest women are only sleeping with alphas because of money, height and body type. You cannot back up anything you are saying either. You are arguing for the sake of arguing. You don’t seem capable of telling me date your sources were published, and you aren’t capable of telling me …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:50 PM
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Gross why did you just call me “lady”? I have an opinion because I….. read. The Red Pill is written about a lot in the paper, feminist literature and such. It is possible to convey the principles without being highly offensive. Suggesting you have to have trawled through TRP Reddit page to be qualified to debate on these topics is obtuse. You know very well most women on here are not going to expose themselves to that vitriol. And if they did it wouldn’t make TRP any more favourable. When are th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:40 PM
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I think they probably get a lot of matches and so are selective about who they choose to start talking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:35 PM
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Sorry what year were they from? And let me repeat - the link says it’s “highly offensive”. This page is offensive enough as it is, I don’t think something more offensive is going to improve my view of the red pill. You are essentially saying “you can’t form an unbiased opinion because you haven’t exposed yourself to something that’s going to offend you”. I’m choosing not to be highly offended and giving you the opportunity to educate me here in an unbiased respectful way. So please, enlighten me…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:34 PM
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Sorry but that’s not science. That’s a piece of journalism. If women are more likely to date wealthy men then wealthy men have more experience which accounts for them being better able to please a woman. More practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:27 PM
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Ok you do you. Good luck finding a woman that doesn’t mind you checking with her if she’s ever done anal before you have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:26 PM
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Also, I’ve been here long enough and seen the same posts recycled in different form enough times that for it to only be bought up now, it’s not a very big feature of Red Pill philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:18 PM
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What date are the posts from then? I didn’t realise old reddit was still functioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:17 PM
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My experience is as a woman dating women on Bumble so I didn’t know women have to make the first move. It’s always been an option for either of us to. Hinge is a much better app all round. It’s so much easier to make conversation and get dates. It’s just set up better. Bumble is shit. The fact you extrapolated from this that women want traditional gender roles is… bizarre. Women are still uncomfortable breaking traditional gender roles not because they don’t want to, just that they were taught a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:07 PM
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These all say old reddit. It also says the content is highly offensive and do I really want to click on it? The place I came to learn about the red pill is this sub, purple pill. Because it is supposed to be communicated in a respectful way here. If you want to give me examples from Purple Pill Debate where Women’s pleasure is regularly part of the discourse then please do, but as I said before not in the form of a “link dump”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:06 PM
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If you want to dump links don’t do it as a reply to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:00 PM
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Can you stop I said no link dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 07:59 PM
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No need for a link dump. List them. If I need links for citation I’ll ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 07:54 PM
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You are wrong, it can be very pleasurable for women, if not how to you explain this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 07:53 PM
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No that’s not true. Women enjoy sex with men who are good at it. Lesbians have a whole lot of very enjoyable sex and no men are getting rewards in that scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 07:41 PM
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Women who charge you for it often have boyfriends or even husbands they actually enjoy having sex with. Many sex workers have clients they particularly enjoy sleeping with because they find it more pleasurable. The fact is you are willing to pay. But lots of women willingly have sex at no cost because the man is good in bed and they want his dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 07:37 PM
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It runs on that assumption Women’s pleasure is irrelevant because if Women’s pleasure was relevant you’d be discussing what makes it more pleasurable for them. Instead RP focuses on things like status or height. Never does it discuss ways you can tell when a woman is horny, what keeps them coming back to the bedroom or that kind of thing. It’s all “I hope she lets me do this thing to her”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 07:33 PM
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Is sex always placed on a condition? I think that only happens to guys who are a bad lay. If she wants something she’s not going to put conditions on the thing before getting it. She’ll just be happy to get it. If the thing is begging to be used by her and she doesn’t want to there might be conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 07:23 PM
1

Reading this comment madethis song start playing in my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 07:08 PM
15

Absolutely. Whenever I hear anything about women “letting” or “allowing” I want to vomit a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:58 PM
1

I don’t mean this in a mean way but are you autistic? I am, so I really don’t mean that in a nasty way. But NT people use a lot of hyperbole. They kind of exaggerate the thing they are saying but everyone knows they don’t literally mean that thing. Since complements are a positive thing, not a negative thing, if you want to even this out the sensible solution would be for male friends to complement one another more so they give each other more confidence and aren’t so scared to approach women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:50 PM
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It would be pretty difficult even in this day and age to be raised without any internalised misogyny. I certainly wasn’t immune. It took a hell of a lot of reading and therapy to get to where I am now and unpick a lot of society’s “truths” that you don’t realise are based in the patriarchy. I think there are many ways to call someone out without outright saying their thought process is misogynistic or based on misogynistic principles. Especially if they are neurotypical. I don’t know if they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:45 PM
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I do think there are solutions, and I want to understand them. But it’s difficult to move forward if the problem isn’t being acknowledged. Look, I don’t know where you live. I personally am in the UK and I am aware that (for example) in the USA there are areas which are still very old fashioned and conservative. In school we were all horrified when we learned that abstinence was still taught in some US schools. I understand also there are still l areas where it’s almost all one ethnicity and in …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:23 PM
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Whatever you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:12 PM
1

Well I used to know. I was always very good with grammar. But I’ve just had to edit a post where I referred to what clothes I “where” twice… so who knows. I’m typing very quickly and frequently interrupted. Generally it’s still considered rude, even if it is repeated and especially inappropriate on a sub like this wear where men make it their mission to belittle women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:06 PM
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I wish I was on my PC so I could quote you properly. “They’re not, and the fact they think they are says a lot” they are not what? If you are trying to say they are not being misogynistic and the fact I think they are says a lot… eeek! Lack of insight there I am afraid. I know what misogyny is, I know where it comes from. I’m perfectly able to identify it. Guys don’t go walking around thinking they are misogynistic. They see women as sexual objects by default, rather than people who are equals j…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:54 PM
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I feel like you might be a little salty about women not wanting to sleep with you after dates. It’s not clear that a lot of women still expect men to pay for dates. They don’t. I know a lot of women. I’m a lesbian but I’ve been on dates with men in my younger years. I do know a woman who was so insulted when a man tried to pay for a date that she would let him then not sleep with him to teach him a lesson - you can’t buy sex from people who aren’t sex workers. If you think paying is going to get…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:32 PM
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lol, no it’s not a true social code - it’s an old fashioned concept that modern women reject.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:16 PM
1

If hypothetically I were to date a man, I would not let him pay even if I did want sex. The person paying doesn’t decide what they are paying for. The person providing the service (in this case the restaurant) does. I made a typo in my previous comment - but most women I know do not let men pay their half because they don’t want him to think they owe him sex even if they want sex. Some women even pay for the whole meal, including the man’s meal, and his response? Doesn’t call her back because he…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:08 PM
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Um, no! You’re paying for the food you ate. If she doesn’t like you after the first date is she supposed to ignore her feelings because you paid? I think you might be getting dating confused with sex work. This is precisely why most women I know refuse to pay for dates. And they don’t want to rely on men either. Maybe some do but it’s rare and they get judged harshly by other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 03:59 PM
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Really? That comment was pretty clear. You said you swiped left because it was “weird”. I then asked, rather than assumed, that men want women with a low body count. I then made the very true statement that by swiping left you’ve short yourself in the foot. Maybe I’m wrong and N count doesn’t matter to you. Does it? It matters to most RP men. I don’t know if you are RP or not, but if you are, swiping left on a “no ONS” profile is incredibly foolish. She out right declared she didn’t do casual se…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 03:49 PM
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Feminism is huge - not all feminists are saying the same thing - but no it’s not all half truths. And it’s not degrading to men the way RP is degrading to women. RP stuff is truly vile, when women try to explain why it’s misogynistic RP men switch off. They can’t see past a set of very rigid wildly inaccurate beliefs. They can’t even see what they are doing. They’ll say really misogynistic things, while claiming they are not misogynistic. I think some men just truly were raised to think of women…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 03:21 PM
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It’s wasn’t far back in the future long ago. It’s literally still happening, and to ignore that is being wilful ignorance. 100 years ago we didn’t have the vote. Women are still discriminated in the work place, still getting murdered by their husbands and exes, still getting paid less, still having DV charges ignored. Have you seen what happened in the UK with Sarah Everard? If not, Google her. You’ll see she was raped and killed by a police officer, upon gathering evidence against him a WhatsAp…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 03:06 PM
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No no. To reiterate - you do not get to decide how we are treated. It’s 2022. What behaviour is acceptable or not acceptable behaviour is an objective fact based on the premise that abuse is a bad thing. Men can behave how they want amongst themselves, we are not trying to control other aspects of their behaviour, but they can’t treat women however they want and decide what we should and shouldn’t have to endure. That’s called oppression. There is no justification for men to decide what does and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:40 PM
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Please don’t tell me you have any rules about “body count” or past sexual history because if you do “no one night stands” should be a massive GREEN flag. Isn’t that the kind of woman men want? Women who don’t want casual sex? You’ve shot yourself in the foot with that left swipe. Which is a perfect example of how red pill attitudes keep men single. You are searching for reasons to swipe left and find something wrong with the woman. The reality is that “no ONS” is exactly what red pill men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:54 PM
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So you are saying “not all men”, while simultaneously making sweeping statements about women that are, I’m afraid, simply inaccurate. Men don’t get to decide the parameters of how women are treated. They can try, and see how far it gets them romantically, but I suspect not far. Misogyny is just not an attractive trait. You (and other RP’ers) make these massive false generalisations about women, yet expect us to trust most men because apparently it’s only an minority that abuse women. Most women …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:48 PM
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I thought I replied to this but can’t see the reply. I’m friends with lots of women and have several sisters. We talk about this stuff. It’s also common sense. Your explanation was so convoluted and far fetched. It seemed you are just trying to find something nefarious about women stating this boundary on their profile. It’s literally just that they don’t want ONS and most of the guys they match with are looking for that so they try to filter that out so as not to waste anyones time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:13 PM
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I have lots of female friends and sisters. We talk about this stuff. Also… it’s just logic. Rather than your long far fetched reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:01 PM
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I don’t think anyone is saying we want men to police other men’s behaviour. We just want men to stop treating women badly. Each individual man has a responsibility to not mistreat women. Whenever women bring up this mistreatment red pill guys will tell them it was their fault. Instead they should be acknowledging and accepting that lots of women are treated badly. Instead they make it the woman’s fault. Asking them not to blame them doesn’t mean we are asking men to police other men. There is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:48 PM
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I wouldn’t know, I don’t date men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:38 PM
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UK
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:37 PM
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It’s just reality. Its an answer that doesn’t support your twisted idea of women, that doesn’t mean it’s fake. It just means that the RP has misinformed you about modern dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:36 AM
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I don’t know if this men paying is a US thing but over here most women I know don’t allow men to pay their part of the bill because then they men expect sex, and also because it’s really old fashioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:35 AM
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Wowza the mental gymnastics here. It’s because het women get inundated with requests for ONS and she’s not interested in that so just trying to filter them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:25 AM
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What part of me asking how we can help the situation makes you think I’m saying there’s nothing that can be done about it? We can’t change who we are attracted to. But I have genuinely asked several times how else we can help and so far the most coherent answer I’ve had is to stop complementing each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:16 AM
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First time I’ve ever had my grammar corrected on Reddit. I thought the etiquette was that we ignore grammar mistakes (unless we are trying to belittle the commenter).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:14 AM
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Everything gets twisted to become Women’s fault, and red pillers don’t acknowledge the man’s part. For example abuse or mistreatment is often said to be because of the woman’s poor choice in a mate. When it’s the man who did the mistreating. That kind of thing. Or it’s our fault that you can’t get paid because Women’s standards are too high - not because you’re too shy to talk to women because you view them as sex objects instead of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:10 AM
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One of the major things that makes someone attractive or not is confidence. Maybe if men started complementing one another and boosting their egos there’s be more attractive men. We don’t have overblown egos, you just have a low opinion of women and you want them to settle for sub-par treatment. You are saying you don’t want women to stop supporting one another, but then you are contradicting yourself by saying women complement one another too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:53 AM
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I agree that OLD is a bad thing, but I’m still bothered by the amount women are blamed and RP men just don’t take any accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:31 AM
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Go Big Boy! 👊🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:08 AM
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Do your hookups call you back afterwards? You are not the first red pill man to proclaim to me that he does in fact get sex. That’s not a novel concept to me I’m afraid. I know it and my opinion still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 11:59 PM
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You are upset at us supporting one another. You want us to stop complementing each other and improving one another’s self esteem? That’s not a reasonable expectation. Trying to diminish someone’s self esteem is just abuse. If that’s what you want then I don’t think many women will be on board to help I’m afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 11:55 PM
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I think you need to lift the blame and responsibility off women and on to the creators of dating apps. The plight of young men sounds really hard, being sexually frustrated really sucks, but that isn’t close to the various plights of women over the years. It’s sexual frustration. Yes it’s upsetting - but it’s not our fault and it doesn’t justify vitriol and hate. What are women actually supposed to do about it. I have asked this question several times and nobody can give me an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 11:52 PM
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I can tell from your response you don’t get what I’m trying to say. I’m saying if (as the study suggests) it’s natural that we aren’t attracted to those guys, what are we supposed to do about it? Force attraction? You essentially want women to “lower their standards” but that relies on women having to fuck people they don’t want to fuck. That’s a horrible solution. It’s rapey. The whole crux of this always seems to come back to men wanting to control things about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 11:10 PM
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Online dating is not real life dating. And no, women aren’t seeking to be treated as sex objects at all. They’re literally just existing and doing what they want. The outage seems to be over things men used to be able to control but can’t not that women have a lot more freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:51 PM
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lol. Who’s upset now?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:28 PM
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All the encouragement for girls to go to school? So girls shouldn’t go to school? I’m not covering my eyes and pretending anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:16 PM
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I wasn’t the one that bought up the welfare state. That guy was. It’s a very complex topic which I have discussed / debated about with people many many times. I didn’t feel like discussing in this sub. It was a boundary - no amount of trying to invalidate my boundary is going to change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:11 PM
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Define “the world”.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:01 PM
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Well unfortunately for him I don’t care if other people think I look stupid and can’t handle “real discourse”. I know I’m not stupid and I know I can, I just don’t want to right now. Think what you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:58 PM
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I don’t usually go for women who don’t have hips/waist thing going on. There are some who have narrow hips and it’s just not my thing. Flat boobs or bum not as much of an issue, but for me narrow hips are a turn off. (Sorry narrow hip women). Apparently my natural instinct is concerned my hypothetical egg + egg baby won’t get through her birth canal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:52 PM
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I have been on this group for long enough now. If I’ve got a shallow idea of what the red pill is like, so if that’s what I’ve got that’s what’s being bought to the sub. I have watched more formal stuff with some of the people Red Pillers look up to and it’s always missing context. Enlighten me on the top few issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:24 PM
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No it’s more “if you had a girlfriend you’d be abusive”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:07 PM
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Yeah you’re never going to get laid. But that’s purely your own doing. Thank goodness you’re not an attractive Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 08:07 PM
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It got bought up for the first time. I told you I’m not getting in to a discussion about the welfare state. That’s a boundary - yet you still decided to press me and ask “what holes”. This is exactly the kind of behaviour women hate. We do not walk around thinking to ourselves we just scheme to keep the men sex starved. It’s just that a lot of women are naturally drawn towards certain features…. Naturally drawn. They can’t control that. For hundreds of years men have restricted Women’s freedom a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:56 PM
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I very much disagree. It perpetuates the problem. It prevent men from getting sex. Red pill discourse is full of nonsense. So far the main thing I’ve got is that lots of men really struggle to get sex. I accept that and acknowledge it must be very disappointing. Apart from that I’m struggling to come up with anything that is remotely close to the oppression women have faced over the years. Red Pill just seems to cloud that whole argument in hate and blame directed to women combined with extreme …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:49 PM
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Well let’s say we want them to positively contribute to the system - what should we do? Besides educating from a young age to manage expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:37 PM
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I think the Red Pill discourse has really prevented it from being taken seriously. Because Red Pill is so extreme in their views, hateful towards women and massively over states these discrepancies people don’t listen. If the bits that are true were shared in a measured, non blaming way, women would be less likely to automatically take a defensive stance and dismiss what’s being said.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:35 PM
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I see…. So why doesn’t that get bought up on this sub? Because this is the first I’m hearing (on this sub) about men resenting paying in to the welfare system. It’s a convenient time for it to crop up. I’m not about to get in to an argument about the welfare system btw. But suffice to say there are many holes in that logic!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:33 PM
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Let me explain. I’ve been thinking about this a lot. There is so much hate for women and blaming women on this sub. I get it that for a lot of men dating sucks, but I believe it’s down to things women cannot help. Just nature. Why then are we being hated upon so much? Why is it our fault? So I’m genuinely wondering what we are supposed to do about it? Can men not just be upset by their bad luck rather than ripping us apart and talking about us like we are objects?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:31 PM
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Anything male. I just can’t find the attractiveness. Just straight up and down, flat chest, boring human. Women have all the sexy bits. I’ll answer this about women then - massive lips. I don’t find them particularly attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:22 PM
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If anything women care less and less about outside attractiveness and more about how well they are treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:19 PM
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Okay so suppose it is the case that women are “extremely selective” (rather than that the men were dying off) … what are we supposed to do about it? The best I can offer is that during sex Ed we make it clear to the boys that not all men get to have sex, it’s very much an “if” not a “when” and they are not guaranteed sex in their adult lives. So they don’t get their hopes up then get mad at women for nature. That’s it. Apart from that it’s tough luck I’m afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:11 PM
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You’ve picked two subs that take the piss of misogynists. What’s your point? If it’s that women are hating on men - it’s misogyny we are hating on, not the sex themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:14 PM
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Well aren’t you just missing a fuck load of nuance and context. Out of interest - Do you think manipulation is okay? Do you think it’s okay to take advantage of people? Do you think it’s okay to view women as objects? Do you care about women being traumatised?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:29 PM
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Red Pill men hate women so much that they don’t deserve any female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:31 AM
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Women don’t want men who see other women as objects. Nobody wants the second man. If he views a woman as a “warm hole” he is of no value to her. Guys who see women as objects don’t deserve attention or love. The idea someone would actually want to keep that ass hole in their life is fantastical.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:38 PM
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Mid thirties F. I’m lesbian so we are talking about women. Relatively easy. I go to a specific lesbian bar and 9/10 visits I at the very least get to make, feel up over clothes & get their insta. Maybe 7/10 I’ll get more action than that (we get away with a LOT in the bar) so I could get head in the toilets and touching under clothes, getting boobs out. 4-5/10 times I can spend the night with someone. I’m autistic & ADHD so dating apps are more difficult for me as the chat element creates barrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:45 PM
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I’m mid thirties and I do it, didn’t in my twenties. I look quite young for my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:54 PM
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It’s not her. It’s someone else’s nudes and you’re talking to a guy. Probably aim to get your dick pic to blackmail you with or something. You get them on lesbian dating apps, they just collect nudes from different women and exchange them for other nudes of other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:50 PM
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I’m autistic and a woman and I can still get women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:23 PM
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Based on your replies to my comments I think your issue might have been about personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 07:23 AM
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Why are you trying to make out like I think a convict is going to change his mind? What’s that all about, I never said that and it’s weird. But no, it’s not up to women to do any more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 05:27 PM
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It’s not “some” men. There’s a lot of men on here who are unhinged. Looking at trends and data works for some things, like economics, but for interpersonal relationships qualitative data is much better. The Red Pill makes men feel hopeless and blocks them from making real life connections and relationships. It blinds them to the good qualities they actually have. It’s bad for everyone and it makes men talk about and treat women appallingly. If you are behaving that way and going around promoting…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 05:26 PM
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Where are you going with this? The person least likely to shirk responsibility is the person responsible? What? You’re not making any sense. The guy needs to just get a pocket pussy okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 05:11 PM
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There’s one common denominator in these fictional ill-planned pregnancy. That’s the guy. Women aren’t responsible for one another’s pregnancies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 05:08 PM
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Many people are responsible for stopping it happening again.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 05:06 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 05:01 PM
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Where do you pull this shit from? The only way you can get a woman’s attention is by being misogynistic on Reddit. No the guy knocking up women then not supporting his kids is very obviously much more at fault. Maybe go with your mummy to family therapy to try and resolve some of these issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:57 PM
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The word “extremism” with regard to the RP ideology is something that came to me specifically while reading this sub. The beliefs are extreme and massive exaggerations. You might also want to read in to biology because last time I checked animals all have different qualities from one another and human beings have qualities that the RP ignores. RP guys have been taken advantage of and sucked down this rabbit hole. They are victims too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:49 PM
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Those are huge issues too - but the Red Pill is an extremist ideology that RP guys are victims of. The issues RP men consider got them there are different from the reality of why they’re there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:23 PM
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I think from that we can deduce baby daddy is to blame. Not the woman he knocked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:22 PM
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Today it’s how I’m challenging her point. She (like other RP’ers) had obviously consumed red pill propaganda. Pointing out someone is indoctrinated is challenging their point. It just is. You can repeat that it’s not as many times as you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 02:52 PM
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You still haven’t told me how this is being measured and what you are measuring. Better in what way? I am starting to think you don’t actually know….. which means you can’t use those studies to make any comment on the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 02:49 PM
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Suggesting she’s been manipulated in to this or indoctrinated (which I’ve deduced from the language choice) is challenging her view. If you can’t see that I can’t help you. Maybe OP would like to tell us more about how they went from being liberal to describing a political view as something they’ve “recovered” from. What influences do they have in their life?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 02:36 PM
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Before saying “all studies” prove something you need to make it clear what you think they are proving. What do you mean by better idea worse outcomes? How are they measured? In what way? I am not saying kids from single parent families do better - I am asking for the studies so I can see what you mean by “better” of “words” outcomes because that’s very relevant to the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 02:34 PM
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With respect, I don’t think single mothers are too upset than Incels don’t want to date them. It takes two to make a baby - once again blaming women for having kids when men are equally as accountable. There’s many different social reasons for teenage pregnancy. If it was simply women trying to be validated then the problem would be a lot smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 02:31 PM
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I challenged her view by saying it’s not true for others. I also pointed out that her view is most likely coloured by a man who has convinced her of all this. Pointing out someone had been indoctrinated is a pretty substantial challenge to their view point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 02:15 PM
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“Studies show that children in single parent households do worse on average than kids from dual parent households” - how does that back up the specific claims that are made in the OP about the things mothers say to their sons? It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to work out that the biggest driver for that is going to be socioeconomic circumstances and rather than the way mothers speak to their sons, probably combined with the feeling of abandonment caused by their fathers. If you could produce t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 02:13 PM
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I’m challenging her view by pointing out that what’s true for her may not be true for others. I’m interested in whether the views extend to lesbian sex because personally I’ve only really had casual sex with women. All sex I’ve had with men was bad because I’m lesbian so I’m not in a position to sit here and argue that it been good for me. I do find lesbian casual sex works for me in my current circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 02:02 PM
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Who indoctrinated you? Is casual sex with other women allowed? I agree vibrators are fantastic and men are shit in bed, but you are just one individual. You can’t speak for all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 12:49 PM
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This is just another excuse to blame women. Mothers raise their kids in different ways with varying results. RP guys come from a variety of backgrounds. The issue is that they get indoctrinated by red pill bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 12:46 PM
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Therapy does take years, the sooner you start the sooner you’ll gain confidence. In fact looking at a task and dismissing it because it’s too overwhelming is something therapy would help you address. Shortcuts at the expense of women are not the answer. Whether the blaming women comes from jealousy or low self-esteem isn’t relevant - it’s still blaming women and by doing that holding yourself back by not addressing the real issues. If you view dating as a competition then you aren’t going to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 12:08 PM
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“To get the confidence to approach women, speak to them normally, that is unfortunately the only way to do it” - hard disagree. There are other ways.Therapy helped me when I had trouble with talking to women. It’s not easy but it was 100% necessary. Changing your view of women and seeing them as people just like your guy friends gives you the opportunity to create connections that can grow to be friendships or romantic. Instead we are viewed as “potential for sex”. If you approach every woman as…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 10:01 AM
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Viewing it as a game dehumanises women. We are not prizes to be won by ticking certain boxes. Woman don’t want men who see them as prizes/trophies/objects. It works out badly for men too. For those who are not suited to “the game” by trying to play it you are missing out on the opportunities you would have if you just viewed women as people and made genuine connections with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 09:26 AM
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I’ve got many. First is that I’m a lesbian and would probably steal your girlfriend given the chance. My septum piercing “ruins” my naturally pretty/feminine face. Have a kid. I have an extremely sensitive manipulation/narcissist/bullshit radar. There are many more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:40 AM
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Part of the reason I’m here is to question what I believe. It’s not helped my attitude towards men at all, if anything I have a lower opinion. I understand the social issues and isolation, but the entitlement to Women’s bodies, disregard for our feelings, inability to recognising us as people, the unbelievable amount of blame shifting and the overall attitude towards seeing dating as a “game” is gross. I’m afraid I have less sympathy for men now. I do read posts and challenge my view but when ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 07:33 AM
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Because pleasing men is not their number one priority….
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 04:57 PM
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Totally different type of data. Studies are good for health/diseases/biology. With dating it is psychological and emotional. You cannot quantify this data the way you can with cancer. There are always outliers. Sure if you’re short you may have less opportunity with dating, but you will still have opportunity. Red Pill men who consider themselves not to be “high value” seem to give up and retreat in to the RP community, which radicalised them even more. Because they are viewing things from the R…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:56 AM
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I don’t feel like interacting with you today but I hope you calm yourself down.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 07:36 PM
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Crikey who hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 07:23 PM
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Women blame men and society for things like gender pay gap, sexual assault and harassment and other forms of oppression. Men are blaming women for their sexual frustration. So no, obviously not. Men have more power and therefore more influence over society anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 06:56 PM
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Do you want me to conduct a study? Because unsurprisingly I don’t know the percentage off the top of my head. Lots of autistic women prefer other autistics. I personally know several NT women in relationships with autistic guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:30 PM
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Up to them if they decide to eliminate these groups of women but they need to take responsibility for limiting their choices and stop blaming it on women and society. If you only want to date a young, “innocent”, very attractive woman then you need to just accept that your chances of meeting someone are low.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:01 AM
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Oh crikey, that’s the point? It really doesn’t work. It makes nobody less of a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 09:58 AM
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Because focusing on trends are only useful information on a macro level, they are disastrous when people try to apply them to individual circumstance. For individual personal relationships it’s best to empathise. If you are an outlier, and you try to apply trends to your personal circumstances you will cloud your interpretation of what’s happening. Confirmation bias will prevent you engaging with the reality of what’s in front of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:43 AM
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Jennifer Lawrence
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 07:25 PM
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Life isn't that simple. It sounds like you have had a bad relationship with your mother, but it takes two people to create a baby usually. Some women do choose to become single mothers, by using a sperm donor, but it's rare. If it took two people t bring the child in to the world and only one of them only gets 4 child-free days a month, then the absent parent is much more responsible for the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 06:51 PM
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The reason I think systemizing should be more valued than empathizing in this context is that by definition would be better for understanding overarching rules in complex systems. Yk, like analyzing the dating market. In the "dating market" empathising is a much more advantageous than systemising, for other things systemising is preferable. An ability to do either based on the type of information you are reviewing is perfectly possible in both autistic and nt's. Also those women may have a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 06:39 PM
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Well everybody has difficulties, but for single people they only have to deal with their own. Mothers have to deal with their own plus all the individual difficulties of their kids. It’s just not the same as only being responsible for one person. This is what I mean, that it humbles you. I know childless people hate hearing this but you just cannot possibly know unless you have your own kid. In terms of it being “a difficulty of their own making”, you have no idea why they’re in that situation. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 06:21 PM
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I don’t know anyone who would be up for this. Women I know who are out there dating aren’t looking for “sugar” relationships. They are looking for genuine connections with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 05:09 PM
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I think “The Pills” are actually destroying young autistic men’s abilities to develop healthy relationships and are dangerous. It is so particularly enticing for autistic men for many reasons, it provides a framework to explain something that is, in reality, deeply complex and nuanced. It is just not the reality I have experienced as a person living in the world, dating both genders. Dating isn’t a game.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 05:07 PM
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Empathizers didn't come up with the Theory of Evolution, or engineer the device you used to type your comment. No, autistics did. Autistic minds, male and female, engineered the world to be what it is today, through systemising. The world would not exist as it does today *without* autistic minds. They are not deficient or disordered, they are essential. I would refer you to Steve Silberman's book "Neurotribes: The Legacy of Autism and Future of Neurodiversity". The ability to systemize is arguab…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 10:07 AM
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I’ve never seen any of these videos. I think this is a monitoring of women and therefore is not going destroy the entire viability of online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 08:05 AM
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My sister said something recently that really summed up something that I was finding hard to articulate in the past. “Motherhood humbles you”. It really does, once you are responsible for another person in that way and don’t just have the freedom to do what you want and take card of yourself, your priorities change. Single motherhood is hard. Childless men have no idea. The dads that just have their kids one every other weekend have no idea. Single mums have to prioritise their kids and certain …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 08:04 AM
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I don’t even know where to begin. I need a list of “red pill” truths to start with. Generally a lot of Red Pill “truths” are huge exaggerations or fabrications and not remotely representative of my experience when I previously dated men and all my straight and bi female friends. The things they think women care about. The whole view of dating as a “game” where “players” (men and women) have “value”. Dating is not a video game. I know there is a colourful app in your phone but still, not a game. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 07:52 AM
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Did you really just pull out some Simon Baron-Cohen research from 2003? Lol. Even if we were to roll with that, why value systemising over empathising? Baron-Cohen has put forward the controversial “Male Brain” theory of autism - how do you explain the extremely empathetic autistic women who are also capable of systemising yet still see major flaws in the Red Pill theories?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 07:41 AM
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I don’t understand why you would want that? Don’t you want to chose?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:45 PM
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What if you aren’t compatible with the community you are born in to?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:33 PM
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I wouldn’t see it so much as a “responsibility” to find a community, it’s just that you can’t expect things to come to you. You are on Reddit, the internet, you have transportation and avenues. Everyone has aspects to their identity and probably fits within more than one community. What alternative do you suggest?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:25 PM
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So many perfectly acceptable things can be spun to put people down. People who want to put others down will find a way. I sort of get what you’re saying because there was once a time when I thought we were all just a product of programming essentially, and therefore people were not “born bad” but were made that way. But I’ve changed my view through experience and tbh reading. There are all sorts of communities out there. You have to be proactive in looking for them sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:05 PM
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Yes, I'm familiar with epigenetics. You kind of have to be to get a degree in biomed these days. All scientists get things wrong, and also there is still a lot left to be discovered. That's why I believe that some of our disposition is innate, it's not all programmed in to us externally and through genes. I believe there's other factors science hasn't yet discovered. Either way, I am surprised by your jealousy of minority communities. Queer people get community but we also get murdered and stuff…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 09:18 PM
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I…. I have a degree on biomedical science, but okay. You have a community. It’s the Red Pill / Incel community. And presumably video games too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 09:04 PM
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I'm actually an identical twin so perhaps have a slightly different perspective. What I know for sure is that we don't know everything. Science can't explain everything yet. That's all I have to say on that one. Some people and instruments are fundamentally not compatible though. Lack of lung capacity might impair your ability play a wind instrument for example. There's no point being stuck with, and having to endure, an unhappy relationship. Some people will never learn and expect only the othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:51 PM
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I personally believe that what makes a person who they are is a combination of society, life experiences and an innate disposition that is individual for the person. So say our characteristics are all different flavours - some flavour combinations work better together. But first it’s trial and error to see which flavours don’t go well together. I understand you are saying that I believe that because of the way society has shaped me, but I think there’s a lot of life experiences and personal disp…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:11 PM
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Let me introduce you to a clever word - context. I think this is hugely lacking in these examples you’ve given. But also…. Why is hypocrisy such a bad word? Surely nuanced thinkers can see things from different angles and appreciate the benefits in different approaches to things. It’s the simplistic thinkers who are black and white on topics and hold strongly either view. I think being able to hold more than one view of something is actually an asset.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:04 PM
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Sorry I’m having trouble following some of your grammar (don’t mean that in a nasty way). So are you saying that what I said above is what society wants me to believe. I need to make very clear I believe this due to personal experience rather than what society tells me. When I was 21 I thought I had it all figured out but I really didn’t. We all have our own needs and there of course will be people who get lucky and settle with someone they are really well matched to. But for me I needed to find…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:57 PM
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I see. I view that pressure on men to be part of patriarchy though. Like in very patriarchal cultures where bigamy is allowed then the more wives they have the higher status. I “settled down” very young and it was an awful experience. I didn’t even know myself let alone know what I needed in a relationship. Now in my 30’s and doing the casual sex thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:28 PM
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How do you define casual sex? I never really did that with men, I know loads of people who didn’t. I do have casual sex with women now but that’s because I don’t really have space in my life for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:03 PM
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Ummm, you are one individual woman. For a young women reading your post who doesn’t feel soft and nurturing - how will it make her feel? There’s still a generation of young women in therapy because of these oversimplified binary expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:00 PM
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Crikey if whatever I alluded to you right now was enough to end the conversation I should have said something sooner. The first “no” often becomes a “yes” because of the coercion. It’s especially easy to turn a “no” from a 20 year old in to a “yes”. Hence men picking younger women. This is what I mean. Maybe that’s the point you are missing here. Yes I have personally experienced some very traumatic things but I’ve had loads of therapy and have dealt with it, well I have my outlets. But my story…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:55 PM
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How have you not managed to understand this yet? And you are talking about making it personal? What do you want me to just use collective pronouns or something? This might be hard for you to believe, but some young insecure women literally cannot say “no”. I had to (ooo sorry making it personal!) literally practice saying no as part of therapy. Even if a person does get the word no out, they are quickly bulldozed over by the older man who doesn’t care if she wants to do it or not, since he sees …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:35 PM
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I was asking whether you agree or not. You’re oversimplification of such an important and complex topic is embarrassing. I think the bottom line here is you don’t care if it fucks the person up, as long as you get off. That is morally shitty. In terms of it happening to you I wouldn’t worry because you can just say no right? The reason we are talking about this in relation to young women is because they don’t yet have the self advocacy skills to protect themselves. Older women do, which is why p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:22 PM
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Isn’t there someone else upthread, a guy, who had the same rule about under 25’s - can’t you pick an argument with him instead? Of course they can vote. If they are under 25 and they are being marched to the polling station by someone telling them who to vote for, or promising things in exchange for a certain vote, then they should not be allowed to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:01 PM
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Coercion = rape/SA. Yes or yes. In the words of the Ashnikko -“it’s a no if she needs to be coerced”. Yes partners sometimes choose to do things they are not keen on, but this needs to be an equal power dynamic. Not not mention the fact that these concepts are subjective and abstract so it’s very difficult to define. If in doubt, and she seems not interested or “needs to be convinced” then don’t do it. You can try all you like to rationalise these things, but this stuff is real and it does cause…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:59 PM
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I can’t even…. The way you rationalise this stuff is sick. Coercion in to sex acts cannot be written off as “everyone does things they don’t want to do”. Do you mind me asking how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:34 PM
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It’s problematic on many levels. When someone is agreeable and easily led this is due to problems with self-esteem and self-worth. They end up doing things they don’t want to do. Taking advantage of those people is morally wrong. Looking for this type of person shows serious lack of maturity and self-centeredness. If you are choosing someone who is just going to agree to anything you suggest it means you don’t have the adult social skills of compromise, you shut yourself off from learning anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:53 AM
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I mean the word “it’s” is incredibly dehumanising and essentially says it all. Guys that think this way see women as objects, not people. I completely get the attraction aspect, youth is beautiful, but compatibility on a personality level is going to be harder to find and honestly I think the main criteria for these guys is that their partner is “sweet” i.e. agreeable and easily led. Morally I don’t think it’s okay for huge age gaps particularly where one party is under 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:21 AM
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And women in straight relationships cheating on men…. You’re way off the mark on the lesbian angle. Also if a woman with a man wants to sleep with another woman she is often encouraged by her male partner. Also in reply to the whole post… if men are so attractive why do beautiful women do so well with advertising and selling products?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:16 PM
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On point 2 - bisexual women are more likely to be in heterosexual relationships because there are a lot more straight men out there than bi and lesbian women. It’s just much much easier to get a male partner. Secondly don’t speak for a community you’re not part of. I’m a real life lesbian and I can tell you that in lesbian spaces I am in biphobia is very much frowned upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:12 PM
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My friend recently went abroad, the place she went is a common destination for cosmetic surgery tourism. She said the plane back was filled with women and gay men with plasters on their faces. If you visit a lesbian space you will notice traditional beauty standards are out the window. Beauty standards are to satisfy the male gaze. No women are not pushing beauty standards on men. Sorry, what a reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:20 AM
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The reason you are not getting attention from women is that you don’t see them as people, rather as adversaries. To you they are “other”. When you start to see women as people who have things other that sex to offer you will start expanding your social circle and create the opportunity for deeper romantic connections. Right now every woman you meet is going to feel creeped out because you are brimming with hate and also awkwardness. Recognising positive qualities in ourselves is not narcissistic…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:40 AM
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Your view of the world seems quite twisted. Life isn’t a strategy game.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 10:48 PM
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Killing an equal amount of men isn’t a good thing. It just makes the threat worse if anything. It’s dangerous and interesting to outsiders.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 08:42 PM
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Also it’s fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 08:37 PM
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I’m not willing to debate this with you. The Red Pill philosophy and Incel movement is a social problem that affects lots of people. You cannot expect to hold such extreme and absolute views as the RP community do, and not expect interest from outsiders. Women have been killed in the name of it. Young men are getting indoctrinated by it, especially autistic men and as an autistic advocate I see this as a huge threat to autistic people. I’m a woman and it’s a threat to women. I’m autistic and it’…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 08:36 PM
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I don’t really see this as a dating sub, more a debate of red pill philosophies. I’m interested in those. I’m also interested in how vulnerable autistic guys are to this red pill philosophy. If you see this as a dating sub I just want to say you are definitely not going to meet people here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 08:20 PM
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This is really sad to read. It’s an incredibly defeatist attitude. Not every woman has the same sense of humour or are looking for the same attributes in a man. There will always be someone in life who is “better” than you in some way, but that doesn’t mean you get nothing. The guys who don’t meet the classic standards you perceive women want do not all have some sort of exceptional characteristic. They are just regular men. The difference between you and them is that they gave themselves the op…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 08:04 PM
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I think you probably do but if you are a red pill guy you are not giving yourself the chance. If you have a negative view of women they are not going to connect with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 06:42 PM
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No, I never enjoyed sex with men and don’t feel attracted to them. I was young and fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 06:32 PM
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I haven’t counted. I don’t know. I could probably count men I slept with but women I don’t know. I do hook ups with women but never did that with a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 06:29 PM
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I’m a bit confused by flairs. I disagree with Red Pill ideologies and I selected “no pill”, but it seems black pill men are lumped in with red pill so I don’t want to be associated with that. How do you a custom flair? I want to make it clear I’m not in the heterosexual dating game at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 06:25 PM
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I know some are. Other lesbians will ask “are you in to femme or butch”, but I hate they question and many other lesbians do too. We are in to the people. I personally find very butch women make me uncomfortable. Some are hot, but usually they are the ones that have feminine facial features and just dress butch.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 05:32 PM
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I sleep with bisexual women. I have also slept with “straight” women. I explained to another RP’er the concept of confirmation bias. When you are expecting to see something, that’s what you see. Your brain does not take in and confirm evidence contrary to your belief. You can overcome this with some DBT and other psychology techniques. Your brain views the stereotypical Chad with beautiful girlfriend as a threat. Due to evolution your brain is wired to detect threat, therefore you notice this dy…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 05:24 PM
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