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We are all human. Breakfast with Seneca could be a nice read as well, but not about dating at all. Evolution of Desire can be somewhat uncomfortable depending on how you interpret it. For me, it's that no one is inherently bad, responsible, or at fault - but we can all be accountable for how we deal with ourselves and the world around us. Being noble in the face of our challenges is the one thing we have control over.
/r/seduction01/06/24 06:48 PM
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The book you're looking for here is "evolution of desire". Everyone's just following programmed behaviors which our successful ancestors had.
/r/seduction01/06/24 06:31 PM
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The awesome part about being a guy is that there's a lot you can do to increase your value. Yes, we're all fine and lovable the way we are, but if you're not growing you might as well be dead. You are the most important person in your life. Take care of yourself first. It doesn't matter how low they are, they'll have a line of men trying to fuck them. Probably more looking to fuck and leave them, especially if there's a large discrepancy like between you and them - that could actually be working…
/r/seduction01/06/24 04:27 AM
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Look, this sucks on both sides. Women are swamped with messages and don't really have a good way to differentiate low value men. Think about it. You're probably average. Her feed is full of average guys. Hundreds. Unfortunately all these matches tend to inflate their self-perception and they think they can land a 1% guy. (6+ feet tall, built, career / wealth, attractive, lots of high-status signals) These 1% guys are in high demand, and can pursue one night stands with anyone. They can treat wom…
/r/seduction01/06/24 03:54 AM
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It's just like cold showers, exercise, skydiving. Relatively healthy way to get dopamine.
/r/seduction31/05/24 08:32 PM
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very cool pics that uses for dating app profiles I'm guessing activity shots. Can you share any details?
/r/seduction24/05/24 09:36 PM
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Plagiarism is the representation of another person's language, thoughts, ideas, or expressions as one's own original work. Although precise definitions vary depending on the institution, in many countries and cultures plagiarism is considered a violation of academic integrity and journalistic ethics, as well as social norms around learning, teaching, research, fairness, respect, and responsibility. You can help people like you by quoting someone via fair use, or even straight up stealing the boo…
/r/seduction24/05/24 05:51 PM
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This is straight plagiarism. You might as well share the original and give appropriate credit, it's a great resource.
/r/seduction23/05/24 07:30 AM
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Here's two approaches that'll work: Cold shower. Jump in. It's supposed to feel uncomfortable. Stop avoiding it. Follow the three second rule, and do it anyway. Change your relationship with those feelings. Best done with someone who can support you. Progressive desensitization: Mark Manson's models recommends this. Start with easy low pressure approaches and work your way up. You can even start with people obligated to be nice to you, like store staff, on super innocuous questions. Where's X, w…
/r/seduction14/05/24 09:37 PM
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It sounds like you're demotivated because you attained your goal.... so what's next? What do you want your life to be like? How does your ideal relationship feel (if there is one?). The skills to find and make this work are quite different from what makes one successful at pickup, so you see many successful PUAs struggle. Our genes will always drive us to pursue women that display high fertility (youth, hips, breasts, etc.). Unfortunately our minds want more. Most people filter for things that a…
/r/seduction12/05/24 08:45 AM
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It this a thing now? Women's bathrooms used to be safe.
/r/seduction11/05/24 08:04 PM
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Or called by a girl who missed her period. I had wrapped it, and I was still terrified.
/r/seduction11/05/24 08:02 PM
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Yikes, there is so much wrong in that video. Is he trying to meet people or collect numbers for marketing?
/r/seduction11/05/24 03:42 AM
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Good advice. Feelings start with a physiological response, like this chest feeling, increased heart rate, etc. There's some evidence that being courageous is interpreting those sensations differently. Often the sensations don't go away. There's nothing wrong with feeling them, it's just another of your senses feeding you data. You just become more used to them, or change your relationship with them. Like you said, freedom comes from facing and accepting discomfort - and sometimes transforming it…
/r/seduction10/05/24 04:44 PM
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Yeah, a woman could choose me over the option to bang 10 well endowed dudes. Imagine a world where this is possible. Who would you be, and what would you bring to the table? Hint: any man can attain this.
/r/seduction07/05/24 05:17 PM
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Reddit is filled with 20 year olds who want old men, why is it so hard to find them in real life?? 🤪 Wealthy/famous/powerful old guys aren't an exception to the rule, they're an application of the rule. It's all SMV. Complaining about it is such a dumb take. What do these guys want, women to be as likely to fuck a 50 year old homeless man as much as Leonardo? Maybe women aren't into them because they're retarded.
/r/seduction01/05/24 08:47 PM
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Numbers are meaningless, you're not forming enough of a connection. Find something that makes you want to invest time in knowing this person beyond how they look. Your goal is to get to know her and see if there's a connection, not get her out to a date. Your best scenario is an insta-date. Why would they bother with you when they have apparently higher status (it's the reality for 95% of us), more detailed profiles on the dating apps than you're showing up with in person? Yes, your willingness …
/r/seduction28/04/24 07:16 PM
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I hope you become the Beethoven of seduction. You just levelled up, and the game got harder. Keep working on your voice, and see what you can do without it!
/r/seduction28/04/24 06:45 PM
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Thanks for sharing your story. You're still with us, keep going. I'm looking for those better environments. I'm done with alcohol and ideally clubs, but I think our entire society is struggling with the absence of good alternative venues to meet people outside of apps and drinking.
/r/seduction28/04/24 06:41 PM
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Bahahaha.... the funny part it that you've already won those interactions, and the dude has nothing left to do but be physical. (I'll just believe what you're saying because why not) Don't fall to his level. Your two options are to just leave, because an injury can be for life and it's never worth it, or to cast his physical aggression as a sign of weakness. If you're clever, you can make continued aggression on his part further erode his value. I'm not clever. Compliment the guy on protecting h…
/r/seduction27/02/24 05:38 AM
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Thanks for the nightmare fuel.
/r/seduction19/02/24 08:51 PM
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Hey, before you get to #3, can I introduce you to condoms or vasectomy?
/r/seduction19/02/24 04:03 AM
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Bro's been going to the gym a month and asking why he can't deadlift 500lbs.
/r/seduction15/02/24 11:08 PM
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How is this different from just seeing the matches you get from gold?
/r/seduction04/02/24 08:44 AM
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What's your experience like without autoklicker? The claim was that Tinder has a ranking algorithm for who it shows you to, so that liking everyone was detrimental.
/r/seduction03/02/24 03:36 AM
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This is "nice guy" reasoning. "I do all the things I'm told to do so I should get love." That's not how things work unfortunately. Women are attracted to men with a sense of purpose and their own purpose. They don't want to be your world, or for you to give them everything. That's not a fair burden to ask anyone to carry. Health isn't just the absence of disease. You may not have those poor hygiene traits, but there is a reason your relationships end up the way they do. You have two choices here…
/r/seduction20/09/23 01:57 AM
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If it really troubles you this much, I can take one for the team and do it for you.
/r/seduction14/09/23 06:24 PM
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This comes down to "be yourself", the most useless and accurate piece of relationship advice. Women are into confidence and congruence. You can't make anyone like you.
/r/seduction11/10/22 06:36 PM
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The harshness of a rejection usually says something about them, not you. Know your worth, move on. They saved you a ton of time!
/r/seduction09/10/22 06:24 PM
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Or you end up on the marriage track where there's no sex until # dates, and when you do, she won't do anything adventurous because she doesn't want you to think she's a ****.
/r/seduction19/09/22 05:46 AM
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Look, I know how it feels when you keep trying and failing. Usually, we're stuck repeating the same mistakes. You're right, there's no use grinding and repeating unless you can learn from it. It really helps to have people around us who can expose our blind spots. Both men and women leave where I live because there are no good dates. Don't give up. Take a break if you have to. Sometimes we can't see the path when we're on the mountain. Grow other aspects of your life. I know that your entire sel…
/r/seduction19/08/22 03:40 AM
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By blaming things you can't control, even if right, you surrender your agency. It's an unattractive trait that'll prevent you from becoming attractive. It's the incel kiss of death, trapping you in a cycle of anger, blame, and powerlessness. Yes, dating can be incredibly hard, but you can use it as fuel to become a better person. We get to choose our beliefs. We can choose the ones that justify and traps us in our present, or ones that help us grow beyond it. Anyone can be successful, if they wa…
/r/seduction19/08/22 02:49 AM
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She's worried you'll fuck up her work life. Don't.
/r/seduction07/08/22 04:03 AM
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As iiexistenzeii said, romantic relationships with women.
/r/seduction01/08/22 03:23 AM
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(I'll get flamed for this one but it's fucking true) Only by insecure incels. Getting laid is the easiest part of this.
/r/seduction31/07/22 04:39 PM
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At best, you need to friendzone the fuck out of her. This is a great chance to get better at managing your emotions. Kill the romantic relationship in your mind, feel the pain, let it go. Decide that you'll never sleep with her again. Set your boundaries. You need to be very strong that you won't fuck her as long as you have feelings for her. Women are much better at getting over relationships because they feel the pain and cry with their friends. Men can hold on to it for years. There are reddi…
/r/seduction22/07/22 04:22 AM
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You said it in your post. Are you not even man enough to stand by your word?
/r/seduction20/07/22 01:36 PM
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Oh yeah, you have great game. Just can't handle a girl politely blowing you off without getting your panties into a knot, venting on reddit, and wanting to take revenge on all women.
/r/seduction20/07/22 01:15 PM
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You do not have decent game if you're so butthurt over this.
/r/seduction20/07/22 01:08 PM
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Men don't usually lose their jobs over things like this, though.
/r/seduction17/07/22 06:39 PM
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The energy and rate of personal development I experienced when I participated in a healthy community remains unrivaled. It died due its worst members and cancel culture. The guys I saw get cancelled deserved it, but it reflected on the whole community. You know, the guys you'd never wing with because they'd maybe got into fights, go after drunk girls, post stupid shit, or try to make a name for themselves as a coach. Society has rarely been kind to its less socially capable members, and both the…
/r/seduction14/07/22 01:07 AM
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If people stop judging sluts, it'll greatly help their chances of sleeping with some. Female purity worship is idiotic. It's an archaic double standard from when women were only babymakers. Everyone wants a virgin who's great in bed because they're so insecure of who came before. Guess what, you can't have both. It's pointless to give someone $500 wine for their first try. Give me someone with good basis of comparison.
/r/seduction11/07/22 11:16 PM
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North Americans have a slut complex due to their fundamentalist cultural roots. They don't want to feel like a slut or be shamed for it. They like the "I wasn't planning on it" or "it just happened" rationale. Sex must always be the guy's fault. They must normalize it. They also may be checking for safety and that you're not a rapist who thinks she owes you sex for anything she does. Cover off that you have no expectations and you'll be fine. This can be a huge turning point. It's a comfort ques…
/r/seduction11/07/22 07:15 PM
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This is the opposite of where you want to aim. The goal is to build inner game so that your happiness is from an internal source. Fall in love with the process. Trying, succeeding, but mostly failing. Women are just one facet of life. And if you ever decide to settle down, having a relationship is also really challenging. Growth and discomfort is the only way to more significance.
/r/seduction09/07/22 11:53 PM
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That's why women have no interest in doormats. It's not entitlement, just a turn off from low value behaviors.
/r/seduction09/07/22 02:42 AM
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Often these people just want to be treated like people. A 'normal' relationship is almost unfathomable, instead they get endless thirsty sycophants.
/r/seduction09/07/22 02:38 AM
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Either you're a backup plan or it's a soft no. Make your own plans, bring her if she can join.
/r/seduction05/07/22 07:07 PM
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Ugh. Women fuck losers all the time. What makes you different? None of these things are what's holding you back. You are. Models by mark manson can help.
/r/seduction01/07/22 03:04 AM
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I mean the original post. It's a self-affirming disempowering belief that you are unlucky, life is unfair, and there's nothing you can do about it. Complete bs reason to hate the world while taking no accountability or putting in any effort.
/r/seduction26/06/22 04:57 PM
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Any idea why?
/r/seduction25/06/22 07:34 PM
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This is incel trash.
/r/seduction25/06/22 07:29 PM
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Most women are flattered and understanding. What you do next counts. Did you try playfully blaming it on her? "You're so hot, I couldn't help it!", then spending time pleasuring her until you're ready to go again?
/r/seduction24/06/22 05:46 AM
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So cliché and awkward
/r/seduction24/06/22 05:41 AM
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It is. Have a social circle for friends, find women through old and approach. You cab meet way more people that way. Women can be pretty boring in bed when you all know each other's friends, too.
/r/seduction19/06/22 03:31 AM
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Do you think these thoughts are something a woman would find attractive?
/r/seduction19/06/22 03:25 AM
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Potential for power, then power. Looks only have to meet a baseline, then women don't agree about attractiveness. Money is just a form of power.
/r/seduction14/06/22 04:21 AM
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Condoms suck, but not as bad as being a surprise father to an unfortunate, unplanned child conceived to unwilling or unprepared parents. You have no rights after you put your unprotected dick in a girl. And, hey, she's crazy enough to fuck you without one. I've had ONSs call me up when their period was late. Condoms, every time, no exception. Condoms also reduce the spread of a whole bunch of slightly nasty infections that can have lifelong consequences like herpes, hiv, or cancer (hpv).
/r/seduction12/06/22 08:14 PM
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​ the most challenging thing for me will be to stop judging and measuring people, including myself Many spend their entire lives without this insight. What you give to others, you give to yourself. You haven't wandered off the path. You've become aware of the next ascent. Congratulations. Keep going. You can be greater than the norm. You have a limitless capacity for compassion, understanding, and love.
/r/seduction06/06/22 05:33 AM
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Move on
/r/seduction03/06/22 12:11 AM
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Do you think these 'natural self' beliefs support you? Help you achieve your goals? Help you love yourself? Whether there's such a thing or not, I don't see how putting energy into this concept will help you. https://benjaminhardy.com/aboutthebook/
/r/seduction29/05/22 04:06 PM
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The discomfort around this is rooted in outdated chauvinistic ways of acting where women give something away by being with a man. Unfortunately we are locked in a battle of the sexes where, just like ducks, we vie for control of reproduction. Men can generally play two roles: honest, or rapist. (Again, just like ducks). I can see how that's scary. But what if, like most successful male seducers, you flipped the script. Don't play that game. Fuck men on your own terms. If he turns out to be great…
/r/seduction27/05/22 02:59 AM
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Regrettably they closed r/incel. The equivalent of shutting mental hospitals and expecting normal citizens to deal with them. Neither have worked out.
/r/seduction27/05/22 02:51 AM
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48 and still avoiding rejection. Never too late to start facing it, perhaps again? Yes, it sucks. One of the creepiest things you could do is not being honest with your intentions. Don't leave any doubt about what you want. Wouldn't advise opening with, "I want to lick your asshole," but that would work really well on a very small group of women.
/r/seduction27/05/22 12:25 AM
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That's gracious of you. This sub seems very damaged. I guess this is what happened when they closed r/incel. Don't take anything here too personally. Be honest and clear about what you want. Don't do anything you don't enthusiastically want. It's okay for things not to work out. Think of what your ideal partner would be interested in and become it. Think of where'd they be, and be there. Most of us at your age are trying to add body count. Take accountability for your role, but realize that you …
/r/seduction18/05/22 07:26 AM
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Don't worry too much about being weird. Outside of a job interview, no one asks you what you've been up to the last 10 years. Yes, it's important to be socially calibrated, but worrying about it too much doesn't help. This is a skill like any other. Keep practicing.
/r/seduction01/02/22 07:21 AM
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In retrospect, I should have known that maybe she's too drunk because she told me that she was at a Ladies night event at another bar right before. This is hard enough without getting into detective mode. Don't want to invite girls straight to yours. At most meet up at your place, see the view, leave in 5 mins max. Go somewhere public. Grab a slice, coffee, whatever. Your home is your temple, they need to earn it. You never want to deal with a rape accusation. Save the messages you have with her…
/r/seduction06/11/21 04:04 AM
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Breaking in virgins isn't any better.
/r/seduction06/11/21 03:29 AM
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retired
/r/seduction03/11/21 03:33 AM
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This hints of slut shaming. More women will sleep with you if you don't think of them as a slut. They're thinking of making themselves very vulnerable to you (sex/isolation), and checking whether you respect them and their boundaries.
/r/seduction01/11/21 02:49 PM
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Herpes, HPV, and syphilis cause a pretty low quality of life. In a committed relationship, sure. But if someone is ready to have unprotected sex with you on a first date, you're far from the first.
/r/seduction05/10/21 01:16 AM
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Getting stuck on this and posting for a good comeback is a big demonstration of low value. Avoid the circlejerk here, you win nothing by having a clever response. You'll just end up on guard for potential slights, often perceiving them were there are none. A completely unattractive, insecure quality. There's a billion assholes in the world. Are you here to spar with them verbally or find good women? Don't give a shit about what some random person thinks of you 5 seconds into meeting you. How doe…
/r/seduction03/10/21 11:27 PM
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Dunning-Kruger in action. The dumbest guys are dripping with confidence and ignorance; perversely women find confidence attractive. Many women have an asshole phase until they learn to tell the difference between confidence and ignorance/arrogance. Men do this because it works, eventually. Meanwhile, most women find sensitive young men great as friends, but not sexually interesting. Many men haven't been taught the right way to court a woman, often becoming emotional tampons w/"nice guy syndrome…
/r/seduction23/08/21 03:35 AM
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Is this all while wearing a mask? COVID has put the world on hard mode.
/r/seduction21/02/21 06:40 PM
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Hostels/places with other tourists. Other tourists will always be better than locals, since they're all out to party and don't have to fear being shamed as much. ​ Beware of scams. They have groups of women who will wander the streets, invite you to join them at some bar, get you to buy them drinks, then the bill is 100 eur/drink and the bouncer will help walk you to the nearest bank machine. I've also heard of menu swaps.
/r/seduction13/09/19 06:50 PM
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She doesn't really want to have sex with you.
/r/seduction13/09/19 05:49 PM
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Asking for a friend....
/r/seduction16/02/19 07:57 PM
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If you've got to say fuck you, then you're still affected.
/r/askTRP15/02/19 07:30 PM
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It's garbage. Useless unless you want to be a manipulative sociopath, and even then of questionable value given the guy's lack of actual track record outside of writing books.
/r/seduction14/02/19 06:57 AM
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It can be beneficial to drop that whole goal mentality and just read where she is Agree entirely. Enjoy the interaction. Not having the goal mentality will give you better outcomes as well. If she's legit not digging sex on the first date (and a lot of girls don't), don't think this means you've failed somehow. Women will tell themselves they won't have sex on the first date due to social conditioning. "it just happened". If you can alleviate those concerns, they will dig it while you're with th…
/r/seduction14/02/19 06:14 AM
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Another book recommendation: passionate marriage. Addresses some underlying relationship factors that influence attraction.
/r/seduction10/02/19 04:34 AM
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I guess this guy must have a hard time counting to 10.
/r/seduction22/01/19 04:46 PM
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Dude should go tell some researchers, they all think the female sexual response takes ~15 minutes or more on average! (Mind you I did have a couple girls who could come very quickly, but it had relatively little to do with me!)
/r/seduction21/01/19 05:38 PM
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> i have a technique i do with both hands that is a combo of g-spot stimulation plus clit stimulation that makes girls come usually in 7-8 seconds after zero foreplay. like literally nothing to orgasm in 7-8 seconds. then i relish in the glory and get them to call me a god and shit like that. i have used a stopwatch with multiple girls and they almost all crack before the 10 second mark with this technique. Lost me here. Can you imagine this scene? "hey baby hold this stopwatch and watch this!"
/r/seduction21/01/19 08:29 AM
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Close the thread, we're done here.
/r/seduction21/01/19 08:23 AM
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... Is this the card you previously referenced giving to girls who are hostile to approach? ​ Your line was something like "hon, whatever it is it'll be alright. I'll be over here if you need anything."
/r/seduction20/01/19 11:06 AM
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> I'm in highschool You're much better off first seeking non-romantic love. Romantic love is a motherfucker, and your situation will make it even more difficult. Try finding someone at your school who can support. I had a really good teacher who helped me out at one point. And if you really insist, read models. Here's the study guide for it. Most people have to work on themselves first, and you're no exception. Good luck. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lk_pclTAYVLZaV8kSXPF7CacLYKzUrqxcKktk_…
/r/seduction20/01/19 02:53 AM
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I've always sub-communicated such a romantic intent that I've never had to say something is a date. Imo way less creepy than doing a friend approach and surprising them with romantic intent later. What do you think is the worst that can happen?
/r/seduction18/01/19 05:40 PM
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I guess we all have our element. In hindsight I guess I had a lot of confidence in class and running something similar to indirect daygame. Class/clubs/activities/beer gardens were all easy; frat parties were hard.
/r/seduction18/01/19 08:18 AM
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good luck...
/r/seduction18/01/19 08:13 AM
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> Also, I wouldn't really recommend trying to pick up girls in class. ​ Wait, what? Half the women I had in university came from sitting next to the hottest one in class and 'studying' with them.
/r/seduction17/01/19 08:59 PM
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Fear of rejection. Better to keep the fantasy alive!
/r/seduction17/01/19 04:00 AM
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If your source of confidence comes more from "I'm a great man" than "this will go well", it won't be as affected by situations like this. You want that eventually, and it takes a while to develop. I'd still recommend you try this one. Failure can be a great teacher if you approach it well. Reframe it in a way that doesn't make you a loser - you're the confident, persistent person who faced 3 rejections and dgaf. This girl just needed more than usual :)
/r/seduction16/01/19 06:54 AM
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If going for a meetup 3 times makes you pathetic or puts you in the loser's position, you already are.
/r/seduction16/01/19 06:46 AM
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It sounds like you're reading way too much shit and are confused by all the rules and contradicting information. I recommend picking a single source, like Mark Manson's Models, and just focusing on it.
/r/seduction16/01/19 06:41 AM
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Overall I suspect you're worried about the wrong things. In my experience all of these things work if done properly, but I'm not in Australia. Your part about 'calling it a date' makes it sound like you're not being clear enough with your intent. You shouldn't ever have to *say* it's a date, it should be obvious. Are you too afraid to get rejected? Wasting time on 'friend' dates? It kind of sounds like you're approaching from social/friend then transitioning into romance.
/r/seduction16/01/19 06:28 AM
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Me too, I love learning and challenging myself. That's why I'm into women. The challenge of being genuine, going out of your comfort zone, and facing rejection excites me. Sexually, it's a gift. I do enjoy how differently women sexually express themselves. Beyond that you can't expect returns. It's a hobby like any other :) I realize I could spend my energies more productively elsewhere. What did you end up focusing your efforts on?
/r/seduction07/01/19 11:17 PM
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You're not wrong, and a lot of the community could learn from this. Many are here to try to make their lives happy and complete by adding women. Unfortunately that's not how it works, plus it's very hard to do if they're not complete to start with. Many are not comfortable with the advice that they have to fix themselves first, and as a result continually fail. So their reaction to your comment is understandable. I'm curious though. Why are you reading this forum, these topics, and posting here?
/r/seduction07/01/19 08:19 PM
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why the u/fytku link?
/r/seduction07/01/19 08:00 PM
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Ouf... it's good you have some self-awareness. You're telling me that your goal here is to trick some girl into fucking someone *you* don't like. That's borderline rape! How will she feel when she finds out? How will it affect her self-perception and life? She doesn't deserve your burdens. You're like someone with AIDS trying to spread it around. Have you considered nothing beyond your self-absorbed misery and selfish desires? That must have been unpleasant to read. Don't feel bad, take action. …
/r/seduction05/01/19 05:53 PM
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You need to find a way to deal with your emotions effectively. You can't really avoid the pain; the lows make the highs. Everything including our lives, emotions, relationships, friends will not last forever so enjoy them all the more when they are here. The Buddhist philosophy in vipassana movement seeks to avoid attachment to sensations whether unpleasant or pleasant as they are all fleeting. The technique works whether or not you actually seek to destroy attachment (I like the lows and the hi…
/r/seduction05/01/19 05:39 AM
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Touch her, appropriately. Escalate if she seems okay/into it. Don't worry about kissing.
/r/seduction04/01/19 09:57 PM
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> I see this as making myself weak and open for rejection. Oh, so you can't handle rejection?
/r/seduction04/01/19 08:48 PM
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I was going to post about this! Thoughts that you try to push away or otherwise react to become stronger. High-level technique: Accept that nothing good or bad is impermanent including relationships, feelings, and life. It's unreasonable to mourn the melt of a snowman; so it is with everything. Focus on observing the thoughts, imagery, emotions, and physical sensations that come up without reacting to them or generating any emotions like longing, animosity, etc. Sometimes it may pull you in a bi…
/r/seduction04/01/19 06:59 PM
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Ahh, so there's your problem. You're looking for problems, not solutions. As long as you keep doing that, no one can help you. You'll always have plenty of problems to blame your failures on. Everyone does. Or, you can take the much less comfortable path. I know it's difficult to face that your outcome is something you have control over, that your suffering is self-inflicted. The very uncomfortable truth is that your attitude is your disability. This is the case for most men who continue to stru…
/r/seduction04/01/19 06:30 PM
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Have you read models?
/r/seduction03/01/19 07:33 AM
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Even if it doesn't work out, there's plenty of other girls and time :) It's very easy to get focused on the destination and forget to enjoy the ride. I think you're killing it, and you're not self-absorbed. I can see why people would like you - don't be too hard on yourself.
/r/seduction03/01/19 06:57 AM
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What are you talking about? The only part of this that wasn't great was your friends getting there. Your perspective here is pathetic. You overcame your fear, kissed the girl, managed the laugh at yourself, and she's clearly into it. You didn't even clink teeth :D What the heck else do you want? Enjoy it, because one day it won't be nearly as exciting. Everything feels much more magical the first few times. Enjoy the present, be present. You only get to experience this once because every experie…
/r/seduction03/01/19 03:50 AM
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Source? ​
/r/seduction03/01/19 01:04 AM
6

I had one who would orgasm upon penetration. Then keep going. I miss her.
/r/seduction03/01/19 12:51 AM
4

Yeah I'll echo DrSleeper here; women are typically very gracious or hurt. ​ ​
/r/seduction03/01/19 12:50 AM
1

In that case it could be fairly reasonable. You needn't have any shame, you have a health problem like any other. Have a plan for what you will do based on the outcomes. It's always better to decide that with a clearer mind. You can still look into nofap which may fit well in line with your desire to fix this naturally. Some people have great success with it, and it has a good supportive community. If you are still struggling after all of that, keep trying. There are always more options. It woul…
/r/seduction24/03/17 08:18 PM
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I'm not a therapist, and maybe you would benefit from one, as it seems like you might have some really deep inner-game challenges. If, like many people, you're okay with prostitution then your only risks are legality and infections. If you're not - as many people aren't - you could fuck yourself up more. Would you tell your future partner, kids, friends, and family, or are you ok with keeping it a secret forever? Are you truly being honest with yourself right now? Is your judgment clouded? Worki…
/r/seduction24/03/17 05:13 PM
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Vividflash's comment is what I've heard from doctors. We get better at what we practice. If you've failed in this capacity a few times, you've trained your body and subconscious both how to fail and to expect failure. In an established, understanding, loving relationship you could work through it naturally. There's enough going on during a first encounter that you're setting yourself up for failure by trying to sort this type of thing at the same time. You could also try nofap. Paying for it mig…
/r/seduction24/03/17 04:26 PM
1

What if you started a videogame and you were the character? The backstory has been written and you have no control over that. What you can control, to some degree, is what the character does. By doing the right things, you can make the character stronger and capable of more. If you're physically shutting down get some real prescription ED meds. Stress'll fuck you up proper.
/r/seduction24/03/17 06:13 AM
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I'm leading up to approaching Sounds like you're looking for an easy way out. The suggestions about managing your social circle here are great, but they won't help you with that. Sort your inner game Grow a pair. Become a person people want around. Find your niche Make sure you're playing to your strengths. You'll have a generally shitty time if you try to force getting along with people you don't naturally mesh with. Don't start there. Make shit happen Someone has to do the inviting. Get shit t…
/r/seduction24/03/17 06:01 AM
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It is so much more effective to go cold, especially as you start. You get far more opportunities so failing and learning is good. Failing in a social context is very costly, socially damaging, and time consuming. You can have at least as good a relationship from a cold approach, if that's what you want.
/r/seduction29/01/15 05:44 AM
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The longer you text the greater the chance for a misunderstanding.
/r/seduction23/01/15 07:17 PM
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Time to close this subreddit. It's been fun.
/r/seduction23/01/15 07:08 PM
2

Victim mentality. Looking for an external source of validation or confidence. You owe yourself some love and personal improvement. I think Manson is decent place to start, but there's plenty out there. If the date isn't fun for you, it won't be fun for her. Time to try something different.
/r/seduction23/01/15 03:55 AM
0

Yes! Go for it.
/r/seduction21/01/15 01:59 AM
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I didn't know we were so different. In Canada we started on the 5th. Edit: I stand corrected. That's the case on the West coast of Canada, where at least the two major universities and one college start on the 5th.
/r/seduction20/01/15 06:32 PM
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Who starts school today? Just be open, warm, and direct. She's not an idiot. She'll understand. You get to have the easy excuse: invite her over to study.
/r/seduction20/01/15 04:50 PM
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Best response I've read here in a while. "Doing what I want" exposing passions venue changes (just like moving a girl in a club)
/r/seduction19/01/15 04:57 PM
2

It's a lie people tell themselves. Believing you can pick up anyone demonstrates tons of confidence, and demonstrates high value when you find the right girl. Game is just demonstrating high value and removing barriers. It's always her choice in our society (unless you're a rapist).
/r/seduction07/01/15 06:19 PM
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just gotta keep my "game" up when we go out. I'm curious what that means to you. I just don't look at women as a sex object. Let's take a look at a definition of sexual objectification. Is it what you intended to say? According to philosopher Martha Nussbaum, sexual objectification of women positions them in relation to men: as a tool for another's purposes (instrumentality); as if lacking in agency or self-determination (denial of autonomy, inertness); as if owned by another (ownership); as if …
/r/seduction07/01/15 03:05 AM
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lol. You're a victim of your own success. Likely you overqualified and hit husband material, didn't make it clear that you're a nonjudgmental slut, or are somehow self-selecting for the ultra conservative ones. We agree on not raping people. Rape is not good.
/r/seduction07/01/15 02:24 AM
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Don't have to, plenty of people have covered this ad nauseam. If you're not just self-promoting, then you may enjoy Tyler.
/r/seduction16/12/14 03:35 PM
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Difficult to read format, no new information. How did this get up votes? tl;dr: get comfortable being uncomfortable and pushing your comfort zone. Not daygame specific, not even seduction specific. If you want good results in anything in life, you must do it.
/r/seduction16/12/14 02:03 AM
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One of the best PUAs I know, complete scientist, tested out every single thing to figure out what he liked. He fucked a dude to figure out if it was his thing. It wasn't.
/r/seduction15/12/14 06:14 PM
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Decent, all in how you pitch it and make it normal. If you're correctly calibrated you're going to be creepy to some people. Otherwise you're not pushing hard enough. Seek to close. Why would you hope to see them around and get their # when you had a chance to?
/r/seduction10/09/14 07:06 PM
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The most vicious rejection I've ever had was from the ugliest girl I ever approached. I hadn't seen her face, my friend told me to open her so I did. I was as shocked by her rancid face as I was by her brutal judgmental expression. It was awesome.
/r/seduction27/08/14 10:29 PM
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Any activity you enjoy is great. Exposes her to something you're passionate about which accelerates things a ton and saves your time. I've done (fun) errands, outdoor movies/theatre, running, gym, hikes, photography walks, studying, swimming. Swimming may make her nervous about being nearly-naked with you. It's great if you can handle it because it gets her nearly naked with you, and you can demonstrate that you're not some creep who loses it at the first sight of skin. I almost never kissed on …
/r/seduction16/08/14 07:11 PM
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And does it even matter? Psycho's right: most people are not loyal or good, but cowards. So are the men who fear women cheating on them: it's a fear of loss. An illusion of honor. If your partner can find a better fit with someone else, why keep them from that? +1 for confirmation bias. It's a very valuable tool for PUAs who have to believe they can get anyone.
/r/seduction15/05/13 07:34 PM
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You can definitely fuck a lot of dumb bitches with the psychopath method. Try this with me. Read your post as if you were an intelligent woman with no interest in assholes. Would you be a friend with yourself? Date yourself?
/r/seduction13/05/13 09:29 PM
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Simple. All those traits mimic those that successful men have. Smart women figure it out eventually. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimicry
/r/seduction13/05/13 07:20 PM
4

I've had someone threaten to stab me. In the secured elevator where we both live. For saying hello. Hilarious.
/r/seduction13/02/13 12:57 AM
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Hey, it opens you up to the herpes dating society :D Sadly, according to the following link 90% of herpes infections are undiagnosed. http://consults.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/01/dating-sex-and-herpes/
/r/seduction28/11/12 08:04 PM
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Even girls with average looks will get approached. Consider your scene, style, and confidence. Take care of yourself/hit the gym to make yourself a better healthier person. It will still be harder for you in a 'meat market' environment, but figure out what sort of guy/experience you want to find. Make eye contact. If you're just looking for sex there will always be guys ready to provide. If you're looking for more long term, honestly, find an environment where you can play to your strengths. The…
/r/seduction09/09/12 05:49 PM
1

then it says Low-status people often clear their throat or start talking over the conversation difference?
/r/seduction07/09/12 10:00 PM
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they might go aaaaaah until people shut up. What?
/r/seduction06/09/12 09:29 PM
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Dude, you're playing with serious fire here. You will not be able to leave this girl better than you found her. There will be drama, and you will be an asshole - at best. If you're OK with that... Then she expects you to be the same person from before. If you're too "cool"/fake alpha you'll blow yourself out. You'll get a "wow, you've changed" response. If you go in more natural and yourself, just a little more sexually dominant/confident/up front you'll maximize your chances. You're getting blo…
/r/seduction06/09/12 03:33 AM
1

Dude, that's not even FZ'd. Friends don't flake on friends.
/r/seduction05/09/12 06:12 PM
1

4 person table or booth. Happens to me quite often without asking. Today's an off night, there will be space. If you want to ensure it, reserve a table for 3. If you don't get it maybe you're not trying to. You're entering into a provider/boyfriend activity with a well established social construct and expectations. It's not a deal breaker, it's just not ideal.
/r/seduction05/09/12 06:10 PM
1

Fuck smooth shit that builds confidence or hides your intent. That's AFC garbage. If you say something it should enhance her experience/build anticipation. When you do progress correctly it's natural, relaxed, automatic, and AWESOME. Lose yourself in the moment. Focus on relaxing and enjoying yourself. Work on your kino escalation ladder. The next step should be easy, not a big physical escalation. My last one: Dancing, bit of grinding. She faces me, I grab her lower back and pull our hips toget…
/r/seduction05/09/12 05:24 PM
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Ok you need instant advice. Sit next to her! Fuck this across shit. Side by side or 90º. Be in touching/close eye contact range. Dinner can be supplicative and you have nothing to go on but conversation. Few positive feelings/excitement and tends to set you up for 'boyfriend' screening. Seriously why the fuck would you ask for advice when it's too late to reap it? Let me know if you got this in time.
/r/seduction05/09/12 04:43 PM
1

Quite.
/r/seduction05/09/12 04:29 PM
1

Give yourself permission to be creepy. In addition to all the other advice here, this is vital. Everyone, even an mPUA, will be creepy sometimes to some girl.
/r/seduction05/09/12 04:03 PM
1

also http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/gcxlf/the_complete_idiots_guide_to_dancing/
/r/seduction04/09/12 06:23 AM
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Basic skills like timing are very transferable. I'd recommend something that gets your hips really moving, like the grooving, salsa, or hip hop classes offered here: http://www.harbourdance.com/files_3/drop-in-classes.php Salsa will teach you great posture, musicality, leadership, and hip movement, but has a serious learning curve - think 6-8 sessions before it starts to pay back, and it takes a long time before you can entertain a woman for a significant period of time. Hip hop/grooving offers …
/r/seduction04/09/12 12:12 AM
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This is decent, but your step 3 is a bit slow/indirect for me. You can move faster than this - girls love to dance with someone good. Show up on the floor; DHV: dance, display confidence, stand out; seek eye contact; approach/kino/dance. Edit: If you're hip bumping and she's responding positively, she's already noticed you and developed some attraction.
/r/seduction03/09/12 09:48 PM
1

Take a class. Dancing will improve your body language and is tons of fun once you get comfortable and relaxed. Learning on your own is hard early on - you really just have to learn to groove and enjoy yourself to project confidence, etc.
/r/seduction03/09/12 09:35 PM
1

This seems like a sales site for penis enlargement.
/r/seduction25/08/12 02:43 AM
5

What type of work did you put into your personality?
/r/seduction24/08/12 04:46 PM
4

both are life sentences :)
/r/seduction23/08/12 05:16 PM
1

Why can't I get a pronto condom? They've been around for 6 years. Dammit.
/r/seduction23/08/12 05:15 PM
3

6 months for the hiv, assuming they're not fucking around.
/r/seduction23/08/12 05:10 PM
1

Giving a shit is important to avoid forgetting the conversation you just had with them :D
/r/seduction22/08/12 07:23 PM
3

This shit test/congruence thread is a good read. For many people agree/exaggerate works fine for both shit tests and flirts, so who cares? Your response to both must match your personality. Think of how you respond to ball busting/friendly banter with your friends. My last spontaneous answer to "Are you gay?": "Only on Tuesdays." :) Poor girl was used to hanging out with a bunch of homophobes.
/r/seduction22/08/12 05:07 PM
1

People will often assume you're staring at them when you're wearing dark sunglasses. Makes you creepy. Has backfired on me a couple times when I wasn't even looking at people. Unfortunately it's either squint or glasses for me.
/r/seduction21/08/12 04:10 PM
1

HSV1/2 do show some area affinity, but they can both be oral or genital. Last I checked it was a 60/40% split. They are more 'active' in their preferred environment, and genital herpes flares up more. If you have oral herpes, keep 8 tabs of valtrex on hand to immediately handle any breakouts. Don't get a blowjob from someone with sores.
/r/seduction17/08/12 10:46 PM
1

The same virus can be oral or genital so a result is inconclusive.
/r/seduction17/08/12 10:44 PM
1

dear god what is wrong with you
/r/seduction12/08/12 02:03 AM
1

don't watch the sequel
/r/seduction12/08/12 01:50 AM
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I'm the same way. Slowing down will help you with everything. All of your human interactions will improve. Focus on what they're saying, how they're saying it. When you talk, take the time to analyze their facial expressions and body language. People like us neglect a lot of the non-verbal communiation. ASMR's a bit different and only works on a small subset of population.
/r/seduction11/08/12 02:08 AM
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Seriously? You want to be able to seduce every woman who: has a boyfriend has different interests is on her period isn't looking for a relationship has a different type partner The proportion of society who is single, looking, and compatible at any time is tiny. What proportion of people you meet become your friends? The bar for seduction is higher, particularly if you're playing AFC long-game, and shitting where you eat so they're all concerned about how it would appear to everyone at work.
/r/seduction10/08/12 03:25 PM
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It's way worse in third world countries. Here there's actually some form of control; in many places you can just go buy whatever antibiotic you want at a pharmacy.
/r/seduction10/08/12 03:06 PM
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that's actually a bit much for me :) Somewhere between breasts and butt is my ideal.
/r/seduction09/08/12 04:19 PM
0

Spectacular, I'm totally into long hair. Damn it.
/r/seduction09/08/12 02:48 PM
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Wow, thanks. If I'm ever in the area I'll give you a shout :) I only had one night in bangkok and I didn't find the right area. All the women seemed to be wearing school uniforms. I was praying they were college uniforms!
/r/seduction09/08/12 02:54 AM
1

how do you avoid them? Also: How do you make sure they're old enough?
/r/seduction08/08/12 08:18 PM
12

The origin of suffering is attachment. The reasons for suffering are desire, passion, ardour, pursuit of wealth and prestige, striving for fame and popularity, or in short: craving and clinging. Much of Buddhism feeds directly into being an alpha male, other than the no-sex part. Freedom from outcomes, rightness in intention, speech, frame, and interaction.
/r/seduction07/08/12 10:03 PM
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wait. People actually do this? what can go genital=>oral anyway? Herpes, rarely. oh jesus christ : http://www.sfcityclinic.org/stdbasics/stdchart.asp (awesome page details all STIs risked in every act. Giving women head, very safe!)
/r/seduction03/08/12 06:36 AM
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I had a herpes scare once. Doc was all, "it's not a big deal. soon most people will have it"
/r/seduction03/08/12 06:34 AM
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not "faulty" just not perfect: they don't protect against herpes for example.
/r/seduction03/08/12 06:33 AM
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You're a good cook and want to invite girls over, so you must have a nice place. College girls are used to slobs, so huge DHV here. Does it have nearby activities? Schedule the date to start from your place so that you're returning home from shopping/work/school and have things to drop off. Curiosity will get them to follow and check out your place, building comfort for later. Visible hobbies/interesting things will create a reason to return. Demonstrate ambivalence to them coming over (a time c…
/r/seduction30/07/12 09:07 PM
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Men's health also claimed that the gender ratio was significantly in our favor. Brazilian girls are also well known for being done up all the time. Even to get groceries.
/r/seduction27/07/12 06:47 AM
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Have you tried to break into this scene? I went out with a connected Asian friend so suddenly 1/5th of the club was in my social circle. I was the one white guy in the club. Is this even worth a shot? I feel like I have 'ASIAN FEVER' stamped on my forehead. Approach would be to hang with the crew to DHV/obtain social proof then go out of social circle for a girl: I don't think my new friends would appreciate me fucking their friends, and it's hard to be discreet when you're the single gwai-lo. I…
/r/seduction27/07/12 06:37 AM
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Wow that post is full of unempathic moralizing. If someone is ready to cheat on their partner, their relationship is already fucked - they're just not facing it. There's plenty of cock to be found for a woman in that situation.
/r/seduction25/07/12 09:03 PM
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Good, you have a proper phobia. Those are simple to treat and are actually fucking gold. With patience and effort you can overcome this if you so desire, building serious character along the way. You have to operate within your comfort zone. Don't force yourself when your mind is screaming, find an exposure level you can operate in. To start this could be: Bouldering, just a foot or two off the ground going sideways. Still an awesome workout. Look at pictures or images of heights. Spend a few mi…
/r/seduction25/07/12 07:08 PM
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Nothing helps your brain understand just how thoroughly fucked you are quite like a nice wall it can use to accurately measure the distance to the ground/death. We didn't evolve with planes and parachutes :)
/r/seduction25/07/12 12:09 PM
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Do it anyway. Start at an indoor gym, it's less terrifying. I've only gone a handful of times but my fear is already fading. First few times you will have trouble letting go of the wall once you hit the top. Avoid looking down. Be patient with yourself. :)
/r/seduction25/07/12 12:04 PM
1

Go for her hard, AFC style. Be desperate and needy. If she still takes you, then you know you ruined your friend's shot.
/r/seduction24/07/12 06:32 AM
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It's nice that we can disagree without madly downvoting each other :) Not familiar with gun/janka. Sleazy is close to models (inner game), just less instructive and quicker to blow out/move on. Fighting at clubs is a good way to an early grave. That shit will catch up with you. Hell a guy here died a few years ago just trying to break one up.
/r/seduction22/07/12 04:33 PM
1

took me so long to figure out the UI.
/r/seduction21/07/12 10:31 PM
1

Wait. There was an article?
/r/seduction21/07/12 10:12 PM
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Yes. After shitting all over inner game the first half of his book is focused on it. :) Still, I agree with much of what he says. He neglects the fact that you must create an acceptable social situation for women to act out their desires.
/r/seduction21/07/12 10:03 PM
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Just to warn everyone: Aaronsleazy is sleazy. Has a free ebook shitting all over game (at times valid), then sells his own ebook with essentially a lot of the same material.
/r/seduction21/07/12 04:21 PM
1

Good call not sacrificing your values and honesty for sex. Maintain an abundance mindset and be true to yourself. You could even come out sooner and aim to pull her into your frame: your behavior is completely normal, even desirable. She was insecure but it's not your job to fix that.
/r/seduction20/07/12 04:29 PM
1

I'm always looking for ways to improve my communication skills, and you seem to have gotten some of that out of NLP. Any recommendations?
/r/seduction19/07/12 11:58 PM
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Give a man a handjob, and he knows where to buy handjobs. Teach a man game, and he gets handjobs for life ;)
/r/seduction19/07/12 01:52 PM
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I hope you gave the man a freaking smoke.
/r/seduction19/07/12 04:39 AM
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