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also it's a huge turn-off when you realize a guy is putting this much effort into dating. he just comes off as pretty pathetic and desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:39 PM
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so?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 04:13 PM
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it’s a shame reddit now lets people hide their history. i remember some guy here wrote a whole wall of text about how he’d feel terrible if he found out his future wife had thought about other men while being with him in bed, the gist of his argument was basically that women should stay virgins until marriage so they haven’t “experienced” sex with anyone else and don’t have high expectations in bed, you know, the classic. then i checked his history…dude was pushing 40, single and hadn’t even had…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 03:32 AM
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not just to piss him off, to hurt him. misogynists should be humiliated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 08:29 AM
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okay, so i’ll take that as a yes to my earlier question, you’re one of those 'it’s worse when women do it' type of guys. but to answer your question about my approach with a partner, if i were an actress and had to do a nude or sex scene, i’d first see if he’s the kind of guy with that 'it’s worse for women' mindset' if he is, i’d probably do the scene just to hurt him, even if i’m not really into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 07:56 AM
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op, i have to wonder, does that exact same question come to mind when you look at the male actor who's also in the scene? like do you think mark ruffalo was also humiliating himself, his wife, and his three kids when he chose to do that scene? or do you only see it as a big deal when it's a woman instead of a man? because it sounds like maybe you think being penetrated is inherently degrading and humiliating, so in your mind, the guy doing the pretend penetration doesn’t really matter, it’s only…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 07:36 AM
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that's genuinely sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 08:09 AM
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"female attention is a valuable commodity you could get it for free" is the quiet part out loud. you're telling men to trade their self-respect for scraps of attention from someone who doesn't respect them enough to be faithful??? that's vile. anyone, man or woman, is better off single than being someone's sad forgiving doormat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:28 AM
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THIS guy is the real deal???
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 04:42 PM
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i highly doubt someone like that would be posting daily incel-rape rhetoric on reddit lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 04:18 AM
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congrats, maybe you’re quite the catch. i also wouldn’t complain about having henry cavill’s babies myself, but putting personal preferences aside, there has literally never been a point in modern history where so many women, across so many different cultures, have collectively decided to not get married, not have relationships, not have kids, and to file for divorce on such a massive scale...but i guess this could still shock you if you’re like 80, don’t go on the internet and live in some remo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 06:16 AM
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I’m constantly surprised at how ChildFree the Reddit population is compared to most women why? that's not some niche chronically online reddit thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 05:53 AM
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okay, my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:59 AM
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okay, i’m genuinely not trying to take a jab at you, but your name looks super familiar. i’m pretty sure i’ve interacted with you before. are you the guy who suggested that the way to fix the male loneliness epidemic was for the government to put pressure on younger single women, impose financial and social regulations on their lives, and keep them out of the job market so they'd be forced to pair up with lonely men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:57 AM
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she's the reason why islam says that a woman's word is worth about half as much as a man's it makes sense that you'd find the teachings of a pedophile warlord appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:54 AM
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i'm not sure if you're being dense on purpose or if you're just so rattled by what i said that you have to twist my words. i never accused anyone of rape. i also never said that being "rapey" and actually raping someone are the same thing. i simply pointed out predatory behavior that gets dangerously close to that line. if a man KNOWS his whole way of thinking is a huge turn-off to women and he knows a woman would never sleep with him if she knew how he really felt, but he hides it all just to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:50 AM
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i'd rather choose the bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:28 AM
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i didn't say rape, i said "rapey" a guy who's willing to manipulate and lie his way into sleeping with someone is probably more capable of rape than people who would never do those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:03 AM
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The language you use to describe a man that just might have a mild judgment is very telling. i’m specifically talking about some redpill-type dudes who are literally known for trashing women for sleeping around, even though they themselves are literally walking stds whose entire lives revolve around how they can sleep with as many women as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:59 AM
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yes, and if a dude has such a sincerely low opinion of women who sleep around, and feels the need to go online and call them sluts "run through" corrupt and degenerates who are ruining society, but then hides those beliefs just to sleep with the same women, he's not just an asshole and a hypocrite, he's also kind of rapey.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:25 AM
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a woman doesn't need the guy she's casually sleeping with to think she's a saint. but if she finds out he's an incel redpill loser who has the lowest possible opinion of her for having sex, the chances she'll sleep with him again become much, much lower, unless she's literally a hooker, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:23 AM
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every single brainrot garbage podcast or content creator who obsessively cries all day about women being sluts and "run through" is 100% in the redpill category.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:11 AM
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don't make them feel judged that's pretty ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:39 AM
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dude really thinks he has some groundbreaking insight...after chatting with his "gamer" buddy who has a kid and now feels qualified to lecture women on how "taking care of a child is not that hard" stuff like this is exactly why i stick to reddit lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:51 AM
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what exactly is the difference though? you don’t consider gay sex an option because you find it viscerally repulsive, so when men line up to sleep with you, that doesn’t magically make them “options” that’s literally the same for me. if 99 out of 100 guys who want to sleep with me make my skin crawl, then they’re not options. they’re nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 06:38 AM
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i think any 35+ man or woman who’s specifically chasing much younger people is just creepy and pathetic, full stop, no matter how intelligent, educated, successful, attractive, kind, or generous they are. but if someone’s not actively seeking out younger partners, doesn’t have a pattern of only dating them, and just happened to genuinely connect with someone in their 20s, then yeah, that’s fine in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:19 AM
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so i read the study you linked to try and prove that rejecting a guy is the same as kicking him in the balls...it's actually pretty funny that you think it backs you up. like it literally says they had to get people who had just been through a SUPER INTENSE UNWANTED BREAKUP to look at pictures of their ex to even get the brain to react in a similar way to physical pain. so unless you think a girl saying "no thanks" to a friend is the same as being dumped by the LOVE of you life, then maybe, just…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:09 AM
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does the fact that it’s harder to prey on women make some guys feel unsafe? that's...great.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 11:51 AM
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you can't really flip that though lol. the women who are literally using and loving an app like this are, by definition, the ones who are actively dating and going out. so calling them 'femcels' who don't date is pretty stupid. but, the basement dwellers on reddit who are constantly crying about the "can't get our dicks wet epidemic" and whining about women's standards....umm, i doubt most of them are even texting a woman, let alone going on dates? you know, it's interesting you brought up assau…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 11:48 AM
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lol you think I can't grasp base principles because I'm prioritizing the actual real world principle of a woman's right to be safe over a man's theoretical "right" to have his dating history kept private from other women? please.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 11:25 AM
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dude it’s not about who cares making something valid or not, it’s WHY they care. like if the only people freaking out over an app that helps women flag unsafe behavior are the same guys who either openly hate women or rely on manipulation to date...that kind of says everything, no? what’s the absolute worst case scenario for a genuinely good dude here? some girl he had one awkward date with posts something like“idk he gave me weird vibes” or “he talked about his ex the whole time” and what happe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 11:20 AM
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i genuinely don’t think this hurts good men at all. i don’t think even the average normal good guy thinks about this. i think the vast majority of guys constantly talking about this are either bitter incels and redpill people who don’t even date to begin with (it’s honestly kinda pathetic and funny that they have such strong opinions about something that will never ever even affect them) ooor they’re the fboys and generally manipulative types who are scared this might mess up their game.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:47 AM
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i’m 23 an i feel like i can read guys my age or younger super easy, like literally a textbook. i catch everything they do, even when they try to fake a deeper voice on the phone lol. so yeah, that’s kinda how i feel about younger guys too. i probably wouldn’t even go for someone just a year younger than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:29 AM
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there are only three possibilities, either he’s the softest man alive like you said, or he’s in the closet and that’s why he’s obsessed with the idea of getting physical with every guy he’s ever seen...or maybe he’s secretly steven seagal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:29 AM
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there’s no way you just typed that...it honestly feels like some scientist sat down, watched hours of content from every delusional, misogynistic manosphere and redpill podcast out there, decided to fuse it all together, and somehow your man is what came out of the lab.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 03:36 AM
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i’m sorry, but it really seems like your man is deeply insecure and weak-minded, like he probably needs a serious reality check, and honestly, it might be best to get him to see a psychologist sooner rather than later, for your own sake. because i grew up with two brothers, both actual tough guys, one a literal bodybuilder, the other a martial artist (not boys who got bullied in school and rejected by a army of girls, then watched two andrew tate videos and decided to work out, thinking that sud…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 03:32 AM
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this is like reading the inner monologue of a creepy guy who pretends to care about you and act like your friend, but is actually only thinking about how 'yummy' you are and how he can find a way to convince you to sleep with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 02:59 AM
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yeah, they exist, some older women do go for younger guys, but i think it’s way less common, and they’re definitely not loud or proud about it. like, unlike some people, you don’t see them trying to pull out biology, evolution, history, or whatever to make it sound deep and amazing and justified. and you also don’t usually see an online army of kissless, undesirable goblins who’ve never even touched the opposite gender in their lives and will definitely die alone, rabidly defending them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 02:46 AM
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we can talk about passport sisters. i think they're pathetic predatory losers who deserve no sympathy. there's this reality show called 90 day fiancé, and i always see these white american women who are in their 50s and 60s, who find these young guys who are in some cases the age of their children or grandchildren. these guys pretend to love them just to get to the u.s. and get a green card, and these women are delusional, stupid and predatory, they think they can actually get the love of a supe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 03:10 PM
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sometimes i hope the awful things they say are just because they’re upset, not because they truly think that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:34 PM
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you don’t think plenty of redpill guys have takes like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:31 PM
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that's a normal mindset around here, a few days ago, some dude here was complaining that since women aren’t sleeping with him, he’s against his tax money being used in any way to protect them from assault and violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:58 AM
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you’re literally arguing that women shouldn’t be safe unless they fuck you. that’s predator brainrot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:53 PM
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the fact that you view things like "not letting a woman get assaulted" or "paying taxes for a functioning society" as bargaining chips for sex is deeply, deeply rapey.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:36 AM
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you’re the type of guy who’d tell a rape victim “you shouldn’t have been there or dressed so provocatively, you dumb hoe”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:31 PM
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wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:16 PM
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probably?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:15 PM
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any man who argues that women should pity-fuck them for the 'betterment' of society isn't someone worth giving a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 08:34 PM
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don’t you think that's an important detail to leave out in your original post? that, yes, you’re getting 'results' now by going to clubs and such, but you're also targeting the drunkest and most undesirable people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 03:05 PM
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I keep sending the links but the bot keeps removing them for some reason. do you want me to dm them to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:27 AM
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no, most men don't. they're too busy whining about some random woman saying "kill all men haha" on X. also just because they don’t outright use the term "rape" doesn’t mean what they’re advocating for isn’t literally mass rape on a systematic scale. when they say things like “in order to fix failing birth rates or fight the male loneliness epidemic, we should take away women's rights or put pressure on them systematically so they’ll start having sex with us/making more babies” they are advocatin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:30 PM
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we get rape-apologist manifestos posted here practically every week, supposedly in the name of "saving civilization" and they get almost no pushback from the men in this space.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 01:54 PM
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yes, we mainly call out incels here who can’t even get a woman to talk to them, let alone acknowledge their existence, much less date them and beg them to ignore their “horrible” past and marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:36 PM
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you’re trying to reframe personal boundaries as moral failings, I can be super pro-LGBTQ and like, vote in their favor at every opportunity I get, have a good opinion about them, defend them, befriend them, socialize with them and still not want to date or FUCK a bisexual or trans man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:16 AM
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every time this argument comes up, I feel like I’m going crazy. like saying a woman not wanting to date a bisexual man is biphobic is like saying a straight guy not wanting to hook up with another man is homophobic or that not being into bigger or older people automatically makes you “fatphobic” or “ageist” like...what?? people are allowed to have preferences. no one owes anyone a date, a hookup, or even a reason for why they’re not into something.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:03 AM
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are you Andrew Tate? edit: can't believe he blocked me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:25 PM
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do you pay these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:14 PM
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I've been here for more than a year and I've never not even once seen a guy say something like "I'm such a loser nobody wants me" but I have seen men countless times cry and whine about how the problem is women because they have "unrealistic standards" or because they're "hoes with huge body counts" just yesterday I even saw a dude here argue that the government should step in, put social, legal and financial pressure on single women and force them to start sleeping with lonely men (basically ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:03 AM
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consent under threat isn’t consent, if someone is “choosing” to fuck you because they’re scared of being punished socially, legally and financially (basically getting their life ruined) that's state-enforced sexual servitude, so...rape, nothing else. you are advocating for systematic rape, you should be on some sort of watchlist. edit: u actually reported me for 'violence' lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:08 PM
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It’s a hypothetical, and honestly, it’s not worse than what you’re suggesting, which is the mass systematic rape of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:04 PM
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fascinating how systematically raping us is the solution to so many of your problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:09 PM
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the only times I ever see this brought up is when it’s used as some twisted justification, either to shame women or to excuse men’s behavior. like when a man sleeps around, he’s just a beautiful force of nature “spreading his seed” but when a woman does the same, she’s a fucking whore, no “natural instincts” to explain her behavior, no “biological justification.” she’s just a moral failure who deserves to be shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:33 PM
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sometimes you value someone as a friend and have no romantic interest in them, but you still want them in your life. it’s not exactly rocket science. I asked my girl friend why she wanted to stay as friend? She told me if that relationship doesn't work out i am the backup guy. does your 'girl friend' go by the name Pearl Davis?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:47 AM
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shared values, common interests and emotional chemistry are way more attractive than just physical looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:39 AM
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there’s a big difference between “dating is hard” and “women are shallow, evil, gold-digging whores who only want chad” see the distinction? probably not, but bless your heart for trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 09:48 AM
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openly misogynistic man cries about why nobody will sleep with him. old bald creep dates a barely legal teenager fresh out of high school (would definitely date younger if the law allowed him to). loser goes abroad and buys a poor woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 07:47 AM
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lol, that’s not the point. the point is I don’t understand why this bothers you so much. how is it even affecting you in any way? I ‘bitch’ about it because even though I’m a gross 23 year old 'hag' I get frustrated when men in their 40s and 50s think it’s normal to hit on me. It’s something that affects me both in real life and online, so of course I’m going to 'bitch' about it. but what I don’t get is why YOU care so much. is it because you feel some kind of solidarity with these older guys ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 04:11 AM
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why is your whole post history is just you crying about being lonely and unloved and how nobody ever had a crush on you etc, but here in this post you're saying you’re a silver fox who's aged like fine wine?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:49 AM
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I think I’d definitely, without a second thought take the $10 million or even a bit less, like $5 million? because that would guarantee a super comfortable life for my family. the last thing on my mind would be the guy I’m dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:41 AM
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What they want is someone who shares their specific interests and tastes I think a lot of people who are pushing too hard against OP are missing this part of their argument, which is just undeniably true. I consider myself super nerdy, I’m really into fantasy, video games, anime and just a lot of weird little niche stuff. and honestly, most of the guys I’ve kind of dated were nerdy too, but we almost never liked the same specific things, like we’d both be into games and anime and all that, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 04:28 AM
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even if the emotional labor and friendship aren't one-sided, most guys will still cry and complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:10 PM
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why are you comparing the way 'normal' women (which I don't even agree with) reacted to the pandemic to the way, you, lonely guys, who don't have anything going on in your lives, reacted?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 04:32 AM
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you do understand that multiple things can be true at once, right? surely, no one can be that one-dimensional. just because I can easily find a bunch of simps around me doesn’t mean every other woman is going to have the exact same experience. just because there are a lot of "simps" doesn’t necessarily mean dating is easier. who actually wants to date a guy so miserable and desperate that he’d instantly fall for literally anyone? nobody. these men aren’t real options. again, just because "simps"…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 04:31 AM
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I mean, it’s not like I really had a choice, the app wouldn’t let me register since I was a minor. but I wasn’t going on dates or anything, I was just trolling men for fun, which honestly was super entertaining. but sure buddy, you can feel free to think I agree with you. also, lolollloll you talking about what's "creepy" is kinda ironic since 99% of you weirdos who are so obsessed with dating teenagers would totally try to date even 14 year olds if the law allowed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:05 AM
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I thought they were creepy when I was 15 and larping as an 18 year old on tinder, and I still think they're creepy now that I'm a 23 year old hag.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:35 PM
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If my future man ever dares to ask me for a paternity test, I’d literally implant a body cam in his shoulder, like, surgically, so it’s permanently there, and I can watch his every move 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:10 PM
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lol you don’t even need to sleep with a guy to benefit from him. so many of them are so incredibly miserable and lonely that they’ll literally do so much for you just for a little attention. and I’m not even talking about romantic attention, like hey bob, we could be lovers, nooo, just being friendly is enough for them to start doing things for you. buuut it’s cute that you think most men are smooth-talking fuckboys who take what they want and disappear. sure, those guys exist, but they’re a tin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 08:12 PM
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I'm pretty sure I just had a mental orgasm from reading that. nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 02:38 PM
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girls have what’s called the illusion of optionality this is mostly a man's delusion, that women have unlimited options and their logic is basically "look how many likes/matches you got"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 02:29 PM
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I think one of the biggest reasons these types of men (especially the red pill and trads) are so obsessed with pushing this particular narrative is mainly because of pure, unfiltered cope. like textbook psychological damage control. their egos and self-esteem are so flimsy that they literally have to believe this nonsense to avoid admitting the cold, hard truth. because yes, probably not all of them, but definitely the majority (even their so-called "alpha male gurus" or whatever) were absolute …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 07:31 AM
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yeeeeeeeeees daddy, you guys are not Gregs, you’re all Ricks. and your girls aren’t the Chloe’s of the world, they’re all Chelsea’s. 💜
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 03:02 AM
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that’s psychopath behavior and totally divorce-worthy. I wouldn’t want my kid anywhere near a creature like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 10:12 AM
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this guy is unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:41 AM
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it's scary and super sad, I literally had no idea how many guys had such creepy, borderline rapey mindsets until I became terminally online and started actually digging into their conversations. people always say 'oh, that stuff is just online, most guys in real life don’t actually believe that' but that's complete bullshit. in fact, it’s sooooooo easy to bait the average guy you know or even a family member into admitting that he believes a lot of the same unhinged things guys on reddit say. th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 08:06 AM
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yes, I know that a lot of guys unfortunately might have redpillish or at least some controversial ideas. but I just think there’s a huge difference between those guys and the whole incel crowd, who are, like, so open about wanting to take away women’s rights and even talk about forcing women to "breed" with them and stuff like that. like the average dude who might get triggered by feminism isn't going to back up the idea of taking away women's rights. even if he's not into, like, random girls wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:56 AM
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no I'm too lazy to find it but if you're a regular member here, you must see these takes all the time. just yesterday, we had someone seriously arguing that since men are forced into the military during war, women should also be physically forced to "breed" during war. also they don’t say it outright, but they wrap it up in a bunch of intellectual sounding nonsense with big words to make it seem less unhinged. but at the core of it, the message is the same, which is fuck us or we will rape you. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:10 AM
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yeees! when I see the constant threats here (basically when they imply that we’re heading towards some incel uprising or whatever because women aren't sleeping with them) the first thing that pops into my head is this, like you pathetic, sad, basement-dwelling incels, a LOT of guys who actually matter and are normal and part of society, have women in their lives that they love and care about. why on earth would they join your sad little incel crusade to destroy women’s rights? it literally makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:22 AM
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what do you even want us to say? multiple things can be true at once, yeah, I see the type of women you’re talking about in uni and at work, but personally, I’m so not like that. I literally even go out of my way to avoid talking to someone I really really like.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 05:15 AM
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it’s kind of crazy when you think about it from an evolutionary biology standpoint, like shouldn’t we be putting on our very best performance when we’re around someone we really, really want? but instead, we just fumble socially and crash and burn.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 10:57 AM
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could it be because you come across as awkward, desperate, and a bit creepy to them? and so they avoid you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 10:43 AM
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I had rice last night and beans the day before, but yeah, I still have some frozen bread. never thought I’d be counting on that as my main meal, but here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:28 PM
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I completely ran out of food today, and I don’t get paid for another nine days, nice life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 10:51 AM
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when people think of MGTOW, they mostly just laugh tbh. because they come off like they’re pretending to “choose” not to chase women, when in reality, they were never even a factor in the dating market to begin with, like literally no one wanted them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:25 AM
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OP is arguing that being kind of 'rapey' is less selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:30 AM
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I’m not just shy, I’m also super introverted, kind of antisocial, and awkward, yet guys still bother me, at work, at university, and even online.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 09:08 PM
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how is he wrong if he was straight up about wanting to be FWB? if he was acting like it was a real romantic relationship and telling her it was going somewhere when it wasn’t, then yeah, he’d definitely be wrong. but not in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 07:12 PM
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I think these are nice, but some guys have this twisted mindset where they’re not doing these things out of pure love and respect. they do it as a means of control, like “if I do these things for you, then you better be my obedient dog" I've literally seen guys who are extremely verbally abusive and controlling, yet they also financially take care of their girlfriends. and they genuinely believe that constantly paying for things cancels out the abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 03:24 PM
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if you have an amazing personality but actively choose to present yourself like an unkempt ogre, that’s on you, and you absolutely deserve to ruthlessly get rejected for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 05:18 AM
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if you don’t find someone attractive and reject them, but they keep chasing you anyway, that’s just creepy and stalkerish, it’s not cute. most guys who aren’t total losers also find unattractive, delusional women who obsess over them (or put "effort" into getting them lol) super weird and off-putting. but I guess if you’re the kind of guy who downloads a dating app and swipes right on literally everyone just to get a match, even if it’s with like, a literal female apple, you probably romanticize…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:26 AM
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It's not really a choice lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 07:58 PM
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do you have a study to back that up or is that just your own personal fantasy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 01:16 PM
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do you think most women randomly lie about being sexually molested?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:25 AM
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but you are arguing in bad faith. the equivalent of the manosphere doesn’t REALLY exist. because you can’t compare the “men trash uwu” crowd to an actual organized movement with clear social and political goals, financial backing, a cult-like following, structure, and a plan. the manosphere is literally working to rationalize the idea that maybe women shouldn’t vote, have rights, work, or go to school. the scale and intensity of what they’re pushing isn’t even remotely comparable to the other si…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:03 AM
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your whole argument is bad faith from start to finish. well, it’s clearly the problem isn't just that one bald sex trafficker. there are hundreds like him, with millions of followers and insane engagement who have literally built an entire career just from saying horrendous stuff about women every single day. it doesn’t matter whether you’re a fan of baldy with no jawline or not, that’s totally irrelevant to the discussion. the point is that the pedo pimp and people like him are promoting and no…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 08:25 AM
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a random edgy teenager saying "men trash uwu" and getting 200k likes for the lol's isn’t the same as manosphere accounts with cult-like followers saying things like women don't deserve rights, shouldn’t vote, should be kicked out of the job market, shouldn’t go to school, and that limiting their options and forcing them to fuck more men and have more children would "fix civilization" also the "men are trash hehe" types aren't making a living and don’t have a cult following. if you ask most of us…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 06:06 AM
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if most of us have experienced some type of sexual assault in our lives, then maybe it's not just a "tiny" number of guys doing these things? and maybe we're not overly afraid, maybe we're actually afraid just the right amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 05:19 PM
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dude, you're rp, you guys literally buy and sell courses on manipulating, controlling and even pimping women, you don’t get to complain about women being selfish, shallow, materialistic, superficial, or emotionally unavailable. you’re all of those things, plus, you're unironically evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 10:40 PM
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I think you didn’t quite get my main point. I’m not saying that you SHOULD find women interesting or love enjoying your time with them, if that’s how you feel, fine. but don’t get mad when women don’t give you a chance, because most women who aren’t super shallow and superficial want someone who also enjoys their company and loves to do stuff with them, and isn’t just there to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 10:04 PM
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we're talking about NORMAL men tho, not someone who's rotting in a basement and is willing to even date an orange. 98% of NORMAL functioning men in society would definitely want to be with a girl they're physically attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:12 PM
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If it's a completely honest and consensual relationship and nobody is manipulating anybody, then yes, what's wrong with it? yes, darling, of course, you're free to not give it your best, nobody is putting a gun to your head. but also, do know that after that, when you get rejected, no amount of moaning and crying will make a woman have sex with you out of pity. constantly whining and saying "why you fuck chad but not me" won't magically help you get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:05 PM
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I just googled omega males, they seem pretty good to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:13 AM
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you can't argue your way into someone's pants though, you can't be like "yes, I'm not that good looking or charismatic, but fuck me anyway...since you've fucked people casually before., also, fuck you, no commitment for you" and then show them a middle finger lol. if you resent women like this, you shouldn't even bother dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:09 AM
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but I'm not saying the guy is a eunuch who doesn't care or think about sex lol. I'm saying that's not ALLL he wants, which is why he's not bothered, annoyed or bored by the process of dating and spending time with a woman, he actually enjoys it. not only because he's waiting for sex, but because he likes the whole package. a lot of guys here who are commenting are literally describing these dates as "chores" and barriers, meaning they aren't even enjoying spending time with these women at all. t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:29 AM
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but you're specifically describing a woman who’s clearly not interested in the guy, at least that seems to be the impression given based on the context you’ve provided. but I’m talking about a guy who LIKES a woman, and the woman also likes him back. that’s why "SEX" isn’t the top priority for either of them, it’s the special and deep connection and just spending time together, getting to know each other slowly, that’s the most important thing for them. if you’re spending time with a woman like …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:15 AM
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if you’re going on a date with a woman and you’re just bitter and annoyed because it’s taking so long to sleep with her, then you don’t actually like her, you just like the idea of f***ing her. if you really liked someone, you’d be flattered to spend time with them and actually get to know them before taking them to bed :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:58 AM
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you're stuck in this mindset where women are just obstacles to sex, so of course, the idea of actually enjoying a woman beyond her body is foreign to you. that's why you see every other part of a relationship, like responsibility and commitment as a burden. it's also kind of funny that people like you see yourselves as "husband material" but at the same time view every other aspect of a relationship with a woman besides sex as a chore lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:51 AM
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did you even bother reading the entire thing? you're talking from the perspective of a fake "husband material" guy, someone who really wants to be the hookup guy but just can't. a real husband-material man isn’t sitting there with a stopwatch, bitter that chad got sex on day 1 while he’s stuck having long boring ass conversations. he actually enjoys getting to know a woman he likes, spending time with her and connecting beyond just getting laid. if that process sounds exhausting, boring, or too …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:14 AM
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okay, I’d like to point out a few things here. "hookup material" guy is NOT gaining more, because ALL he gets is sex. the guy a woman is serious about gets the best and most complete version of her. he gets her loyalty, her effort, her support, and yes, sex too. a lot of you guys think of yourselves as husband material, but you really aren’t, you’re just cosplaying. you WANT to be the FWB or hookup guy, but you just can’t because you don’t have the natural charisma, charm, or looks. so instead, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:49 AM
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you’d be surprised how many below-average guys get a chance with incredibly beautiful women, only for it to inflate their egos instead of making them appreciative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 12:47 AM
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i am not a degen <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 05:49 PM
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wow you actually went through my entire reddit history, found the worst(?) thing you could, which was a three year old post from when I was 19 about taking a few ibuprofens every week, and then added some made-up details, like I apparently had a down syndrome baby...and a partner who committed suicide because of it. 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 I don't know if you were trolling...or you were just angry, but my god, dude, please get help.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 01:37 AM
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okay, so I get that this might be a little hard for you to understand because, based on your history, you're spending most of your time with sex bots, sex dolls, and VR porn and you don’t even have any like guy friends, let alone women in your life...but you DO realize that this kind of mind game or whatever you wanna call it, doesn’t magically make most women go "ohh honey, if that’s the case, I’ll do EVERYTHING in my power to keep you so satisfied that you won’t cheat" the two more likely resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 09:23 PM
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not trying to be mean, but OP's a super short 40 year old lonely guy who doesn’t even have one male friend, lives with his 80 year old dad, is addicted to VR porn, buys sex dolls, hires escorts, and can't keep it up...and all of this is according to him. so like, what do you really expect from him?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 09:16 PM
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yes, the vast 'majority' of passport bros are over 30, out of shape, socially awkward and struggling to date for a reason. if they were actually prime dating material, they wouldn’t have to fly halfway across the damn world to find a super young woman who tolerates them. this isn’t some grand strategy, my good sir, it’s just outsourcing desperation. you’re acting like these women don’t learn, adapt and evolve just like everyone else. the more passport bros show up, the more these women become aw…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:21 AM
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but most passport bros look like Homer Simpson, they’re old, ugly, out of shape, socially awkward and generally have values and interests that your average western woman isn’t a huge fan of. so, their existence (or lack of it) doesn’t really impact the dating market you're referring to in any meaningful way. the MAIN reason we talk about passport bros is, one, because it’s funny to clown on them, and two, we kinda feel bad for the women they’re basically buying, but that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 12:25 AM
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It’s not a matter of saying yes or no, it’s a matter of how much higher I can push the price if he’s already willing to throw down a million.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:08 PM
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that's progress, we usually get posts that try to justify slavery and rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:57 AM
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jesus christ, it’s honestly kind of wild that you’re spending this much time imagining a scenario where some genetically superior man is constantly taking your imaginary wife to bed while you're crying in a corner. I didn’t say you should be happy with it. but if your mind is this obsessed and you’re constantly afraid of getting cuckolded, maybe you should consider getting a body pillow instead of a wife. also, once again, it’s SUPER weird that even in this new scenario where she has apparently …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 07:54 PM
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SO WHAT? you’re mad that the options are even there and your imaginary wife might think about them, even though she’s already with you? that sounds like an insecurity problem, not a relationship problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 07:43 PM
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this is giving me some serious cuckold fantasy vibes ngl. like do you WANT her to leave you for the bigger dude? is this some reverse psychology kink bs? because if let's say I was dating someone way better looking than me who had tons of options but still chose me, I’d actually feel nice and special, to me it would mean I have something more to offer than just better 'genitals' that they actually see ME and not just as some piece of meat. that’s way more meaningful than just being the hottest o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 07:39 PM
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so how does this scenario work exactly? the guy...doesn’t think about any other women in sexual scenarios, ever? never gets off to them, never watches porn, nothing, but the 'wife' is thinking about other hotter men? why do I feel like most of you have that "if I do it, it's alright because I'm the protagonist, but women better don't do it because it makes me feel sad and insecure" mindset?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:48 AM
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my good sir, the fact that you think women can only ever be attracted to ONE type of guy, in ONE type of situation, for ONE reason, just proves you don’t understand how attraction actually works. when it comes to casual purely physical encounters, the focus is obviously going to be on instant sexual chemistry and physical desire because if I’m not looking for a romantic, deep emotional or intellectual connection, then why wouldn’t I go for someone who immediately excites me in that way? like I’m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:35 AM
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because when it’s just a purely physical 'encounter' for fun, what else should really matter? that they have the same taste in music or like the same authors as you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:25 AM
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this is just another classic attempt to repackage male hypocrisy as some kind of deep biological truth. what I ACTUALLY read here is: I do it, good, you do it, whore. also most men don’t have 'higher beauty standards for wives' they just have zero standards for casual sex. like if most men actually had consistent access to beautiful women for hookups, they’d never eveeeeeeeeeer choose anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:27 AM
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if she’s committed to you, why does it even matter what’s in her head? you definitely have porn stars, celebrities, or idk, some girls from your past that you think are hotter than your girlfriend, you definitely fantasize about them too. so what’s the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:27 AM
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what the hell is OGRE maxing 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:24 AM
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I could never in a million years see myself dating or befriending someone even remotely conservative, religious or caught up in all that red-pill/trad stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:42 AM
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that's a cute little strawman you just built. I didn't say anything about women being "entitled to a man’s money due to her gender" what I actually said is that WHOEVER asks for the date should cover it because that's basic social etiquette.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:53 AM
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that’s RIGHT! society expects us to do it, and we refuse anyway. you can do it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:56 AM
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that’s a conversation that could happen in a society where men aren’t pretending to care about unborn babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:50 AM
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self-respect isn’t the issue here, being bitter, broke, and entitled while pretending to be a victim is. you're cramming every major turn off for women into one sad little argument. no one would want to go on a date with a man like this anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:41 AM
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Most men are expected to ask though I'm sorry but is society holding a gun to men’s heads forcing them to ask women out first or...? just simply don't do it. men are expected to pay for a woman’s time and company. My point is that this is inherent commodification, though many women do not want to feel like commodities. no, it means covering the cost of an experience YOU initiated. if you invited a friend to dinner, would you cry that you’re “paying for their time” just because you covered the bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:24 AM
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If you ask someone out, you should cover the cost of the date, gender doesn’t matter. also, I’d personally take toxic, manipulative men who only want sex over cheap bitter losers who cry about paying for a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 02:13 AM
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it's the irony that I find quite amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:18 PM
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true, he should also win awards for being the literal definition of peak masculinity. only a dude completely secure with his manhood would pretend to be a cute 19 year old girl online, flirt with men for hours every day and then proudly announce it to the world while puffing on a cuban cigar.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:38 PM
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Do you believe the majority of men in real life or that extreme? of course not, it's not even close. even if we take the U.S as an example, where a lot of people here like to bring up this ridiculous theory that men voted for Trump out of spite just to hurt women, I think that's retarded. maybe less than 10% of men were like that or even lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:59 PM
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I think a good chunk of non-blue guys here don’t realize just how extreme these posts actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:13 PM
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RIGHTS are inherent and protected by the constitution, PRIVILEGES are granted and can be revoked, so when Trump's administration rolls back reproductive freedoms, that's not just tweaking PRIVILEGES that's infringing on fundamental human rights. but...uhmm perhaps you don't see yourself as a sentient being or even a human and therefore don't believe you have rights? so I guess I apologize if I don't share that perspective? also, dear pick-me chan, I don’t actually think that balding middle-aged …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:49 PM
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OP many people have already sort of engaged with your question, so let me now ask YOU something. surely, you’ve seen the weekly posts we get here, the ones where people like to comment that meme under them "my life sucks = societal collapse is imminent" now, the gist of 90% of these posts (that btw try to seem very intellectual and smart by using big words) is that men should take away women's rights, completely remove them from the job market and schools, force them to marry men and have babies…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:28 PM
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The kind of women Red Pill men describe are very shallow Ironically, most of them are also in relationships with those exact same superficial mega-shallow types.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:18 AM
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I think I love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:28 PM
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OP: hi we mostly stopped raping and enslaving you, because we're nice, so the least you could do is to let us fuck you...consensually, or... :) edit: but seriously OP, that's quite a wall of text for a simple message, which is basically 'let us fuck you or we'll rape you into submission' I hope you find help.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:34 PM
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not all lonely men are misogynistic bitter monsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:56 PM
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yes, I think they're pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:48 PM
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Nope, thats why I said you are framing unfairly. A 30 year old dude grooming an inexperienced girl would be the same as a 30 year old cougar grooming an inexperienced guy. do you even know what a cougar means lol? for what it's worth, I think an older woman preying on much younger guys is also gross and it's just as wrong and creepy as when men do it. but you'd have to be seriously mentally challenged to look at a 30 year old woman dating someone her own age who's just inexperienced in sex or re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:22 PM
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sorry, I'm such a bitch, you’re actually kind of right. obviously, no man, especially redpill types would even entertain the idea of sleeping with as many women as possible, treating them like disposable fun and then when their hairline starts to recede, swoop in on a barely legal impressionable little girl who’s still figuring out life and mold her into the perfect submissive housewife plus super-maid/baby-making machine. nope, not a single one of them has that mindset. my baaad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:46 PM
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you think a 30 year old dude grooming and turning an inexperienced, barely legal teen into a weak totally dependent housewife with no agency is the same as a 30 year old woman giving a chance to a guy around her own age who at least has his life together financially and career wise?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:18 PM
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please stop being so unreasonable. only men are allowed to do this…because biology, of course. a guy can sleep with as many women as possible, never even considering a future with them because they’re too "easy" and not “wife material” and then, when he hits 30, he can go groom some clueless, homeschooled 18 year old virgin who’s never even spoken to another guy, loves cooking, and dreams of being a stay at home wife. that’s totally fine and not hypocritical at all. but if a woman has fun in her…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:08 PM
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I know, but the part that really got to me was the "at that age, you should quit looking for dates and start looking for a senior care facility" it feels like a nightmare, the idea that you might never get to experience a fulfilling, satisfying relationship with someone and then you're just supposed to give up and slowly fade away because you're older, even the thought of it is terrifying to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:35 AM
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I’m not saying you’re wrong, it just makes me sad that you feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:24 AM
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why did this make me feel so sad, depressed, and uncomfy as someone who's gonna hit 50 in like 30 years or something lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:26 AM
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the thing is, OP said we can't know someone's "intent" in this context, but I'm saying we can in a lot of cases. the man's getting called out for acting kinda disingenuous, sliding in and trying to join a social circle he probably barely cares about (or doesn't at all) just because he wants to chase a certain woman there, it makes things awkward for everyone, it fucks up the vibe. it's like some random guy joining an alcoholics anonymous meeting just to hit on a woman there, then spending every …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:11 AM
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look dude, when you come into the group/social circle/whatever and spend almost all your time focused on ONE woman, making things awkward with super cringe low-key flirting, we see what’s up. you’re not here to be part of the crew, you’re here to hit on her. keeping the vibe of our group chill and comfortable is a way bigger priority for us than worrying about the love life or feelings of some random jackass.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 12:05 AM
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I don’t usually like to dig into people’s profiles because I’d rather just engage with the arguments they’re making instead of looking for "gotchas" and throwing personal attacks at them, but this post was so unhinged...I just HAD to check it out. and so, for your info, OP is a 40 year old man, completely lonely, single, and friendless. he has sex dolls, he’s addicted to porn, and he also pays for sex...even men don’t want anything to do with this person, and yet he expects women to sleep with h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 08:07 AM
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I’d definitely believe it’s possible, but as the person who replied to me said, it’s quite uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:34 AM
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some of the numbers these guys throw around about our supposed 'body count' are so wild, like you couldn’t even hit that number if you were an actual pornstar or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 01:12 AM
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if you want to go there, unattractive women are pretty much invisible to most men too. but you should already know this since you're literally about the same age as my dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:24 PM
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the manosphere/RP figures with their millions of fans contributed to this too. when you present yourself as the ‘face’ of a movement that claims to care about men’s problems and talk about the male loneliness epidemic WHILE constantly attacking women, and having the most vile, ridiculous takes, then going viral for it, you can’t expect women to be like ‘oh, look at these poor guys who just want to turn us into slaves. too bad if they kill themselves'
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:12 PM
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I’m not feeling much sympathy for women who keep saying they can’t get "model boyfriends" do you feel sympathy for men who because they can't get laid, think the west should take its cues on women's roles and rights from the taliban?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:25 PM
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do you think I want the empathy of people who want to take away my rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 01:00 PM
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If you want to dismiss someone's struggles then don't be surprised that the same will happen to yours. not everyone who is struggling deserves empathy and understanding. for example, we have a lot of guys even here who straight up believe women should be kicked out of the workforce, have their rights taken away, and basically be forced to depend on them. these are the same guys who cry about being lonely and how hard it is to find a "pure" 18 year old maiden who wants to live on a farm with them…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:50 AM
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man get sexually assaulted...by another man he gets into drugs and crime because of it, ruining his life then he gets assaulted again in prison by other men >a good excuse to join a cult whose whole motto is "fuck women"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 06:16 AM
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I don’t think men should have the right to do shit when it comes to pregnancy or abortion. but if a guy made it clear from the start that he didn’t want a kid, then he shouldn’t be legally responsible for the kid, I think that's fair. I also think it's fair that in these cases, the guy should be legally forbidden from ever contacting or interacting with the kid in any way. like if you don’t want any legal responsibilities of parenthood, then it’s no longer your child, so, goodbye, sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:23 AM
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If you're an adult man who doesn’t understand basic hygiene, is smelly, and dirty, then you're doing multiple things wrong and that's a perfectly legitimate reason for breaking up with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:36 PM
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I didn’t say it’s rape, but you’re rationalizing a man making physical contact with a woman without consent, which is textbook rapey behavior by all definitions. also, a person who doesn’t understand consent is more likely to become a rapist in the future compared to the average person who does understand it, and that’s why I told you to work on yourself, not because I care about you as an individual, but for the sake of your potential future victims. I could be Lily Phillips on steroids and sle…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:09 PM
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you're being very rapey, OP. even though I disagree with you, I could understand your point if you were just talking about like "hitting on" a certain type of woman because you might think they're more open to it, but then you also brought up "touching" which shows you don’t have a good understanding of a concept called CONSENT, this lack of awareness could potentially make you a rapist in the future. you should seriously reflect and work on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:10 PM
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because most men end up in relationships with the women they have sex with, specifically because of that "attachment" factor you’re trying so hard to deny. if most men were emotionally operating like the 5% of serial hookup artists you guys always talk about, the majority of them wouldn’t be in committed relationships with one woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 09:58 AM
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you know even if you exclude the incredibly outcast and desperate types who (btw aren’t a small population and will probably become the majority sooner or later) ironically, often share similar beliefs about women as you guys do and focus on the average men who have actual relationships or occasional hookups, those men still form emotional attachments after hookups, like most normal women I guess. the problem is, when you talk about "sex meaning nothing to men" you're literally referring to an e…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 09:52 AM
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well, I’m not sure about that, but I do know who’s constantly crying about a certain 'epidemic' the point is, some men go out of their way to intentionally hide this, even though they can be deeply emotionally affected by the simplest things, and we see right through that, lying about it doesn’t make men look macho and strong, it makes them come across as insecure pathetic little babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 04:30 AM
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you give someone a light touch on the shoulder, flash them a little smile, toss out a tiny compliment, and suddenly they're telling you how it made their whole day, how they’ve been holding onto that moment for months, maybe even years....and then we've men here who says "SEX" is meaningless to most men, and it's women who get attached lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 05:11 PM
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a lot of guys literally TELL you they want a barely legal girl because she’s “more pure” less likely to have been “indoctrinated by feminism” or too deep into western education, making her more agreeable and less combative. that’s textbook manipulation. these men specifically seek out someone less experienced, less worldly, and less aware so it’s easier to mold her into their version of the perfect, unquestioning partner. on top of that, girls that age are much more likely to be financially and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:24 AM
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It's because men are competitive with each other I feel like a significant number of men don’t genuinely enjoy sex, relationships with women, or even spending time with women in general as much as they might claim. and even when they do, it seems like they derive more satisfaction from just talking about it with their male friends or showing it off like indirectly saying “look, I have a girlfriend, we’re intimate, and we spend time together, I'm not a loser haha” of course, there’s no way to pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 08:45 PM
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your whole point is just "bring back slut shaming and make it great again"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 05:57 PM
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it's bad because of you and people like you perpetuating the vile patriarchal structures designed by evil men to oppress, control, and dehumanize women. for centuries, women have been shamed, demonized, and systematically destroyed for daring to exist outside the narrow confines you imposed on us. but now the system is falling apart, and there’s nothing you or anyone like you can do to stop it. also please stop pretending, you’re not worried about women, you’re just panicking because the power s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 04:48 PM
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but you literally compared women having casual sex to children being 'assaulted' which implies you think we're so dumb, mentally inferior and incapable of making our own decisions that our consent means nothing. basically, according to your logic, every let's say casual sexual experience we have is just a precursor to being "raped" and so most men are rapists. so, don’t you think there should be more laws to protect us absolute brainless creatures? maybe even some force should be applied, right?…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:37 PM
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what do you think should be done about this specifically? do you believe there should be laws that forbid women from having sex outside of marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 01:32 PM
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but if the most influential and popular figures repping your movement are out here openly pushing that kind of mindset, doesn’t that kinda prove that the majority of men in your movement are fine with it? maybe you and people like you are just a tiny little minority at this point?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:59 AM
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so I was right, at the end of the day, your argument boils down to “men should be excused for bad behavior because biology, and women should just deal with it and do better" my dude, we aren’t cavemen anymore, we live in a society, just because something might be “natural” doesn’t mean it’s morally acceptable or beneficial for a relationship. also we must be living in completely different realities because from my experience, it’s actually men who take possessiveness to the most extreme levels. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:52 AM
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I literally know a case like this in real life, but I’m so paranoid and scared that there’s even a 1 in a million chance he might somehow know about my reddit account and see this, so I won’t share it. but yeah, I’m aware that sometimes they even date people for months and completely hide their beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 10:54 AM
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as ridiculous as this whole thing is, I’ve seen worse, like there men who argue that even if a guy isn’t bringing the supposed 'financial stability' to the relationship, the woman should still be okay with him messing around because apparently “it’s just in men’s biology to act that way” at least the dipshits in red-pill circles or some trad men say “we give you this (like financial support) and in exchange, you let us do that” but then there are men who are like “yeah, I’ve got nothing to offer…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 10:41 AM
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they definitely exist in real life, but since social norms in the western world are strongly against these ideas and because they know they’d be ridiculed or instantly rejected by 99% of the women they encounter, most of them try to hide their opinions and beliefs in public, at work, school etc. that’s why the good people here may never truly notice these guys in real-life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 10:32 AM
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I've seen posts here where men suggest that the only way to "fix" society and regain control over women is to strip them of all their rights, push them out of the job market, and make them dependent on men so they’ll obey again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 09:47 AM
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I’d say that’s a good thing in a way because there’s a certain hilarious irony in it when the self-proclaimed "real man" types who are so obsessed with control (and are deeply misogynistic btw) end up being manipulated like this. I’ve personally witnessed two instances exactly like this, and I found it pretty amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 09:21 AM
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OP, is the gist of your argument that if a woman wants a man who’s a provider of security and financial stability, then she should basically just be a cuck? like sit on a chair with a smile and watch her husband be polyamorous with other women...because it’s natural? or am I tripping?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 06:54 AM
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I honestly don’t think anything like that has ever really happened on a global scale. like take afghanistan as an example, if the leader of the free world and their “freedom fighters” decided to step in, it’s not like women’s rights wouldn’t matter to them at all but they’d probably be way down on their list of priorities. they’d most likely be focused on security stuff or some big political drama, like another cold war kind of thing. and I know you said no 'deflecting, etc' but honestly, the qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:43 AM
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a pre-feminist 'arranged marriage' type of thing what would lead you to believe these men would keep their promises and actually provide any security? I unfortunately come from a culture where these sorts of marriages are still predominantly common. the vast majority of people who engage in them come from very traditional, religious, poor, and highly uneducated backgrounds, and most of them actually live below average lives, like financially. so, I really don't really understand what kind of "se…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:13 PM
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thank you. I've seen people (men?) post that "crying in the end" part billions of times, trying to sound super smart or make some deep point. but in reality, it means absolutely nothing. I teach online English classes, mostly to children, and I almost cry every single day after a tough day of work, and It's not because I’ve been traumatized or crushed by my horrible mistakes and decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:20 PM
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you might end up doing it one day, if you're a normal person with actual feelings. you might try to save a kitten or a child, or a woman, or even an old person who’s struggling. and if that happens and the guy who you just 'took' is like “sorry, babe, I ran away because I was scared :3” I hope you just give him the biggest hug and be like “aww, it’s okay, sweetie. I get it. I’ll just handle it all while you go grab us some coffee, k?”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:47 AM
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most of you aren’t really engaging with these hypotheticals in good faith because honestly I don’t think most of you even truly believe what you’re saying. I’m assuming that most of the guys here who disagree with my point, including you probably, would actually risk everything for your girlfriends (of course most of you are single lol but still) even if, in the moment, you don’t think what she did was exactly the safest thing ever. but instead, you guys are defending this total coward just to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:24 AM
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you’d take a guy who’s too scared to lift a finger or say a word because he thinks things might get physical and he could get hurt...while you’re the one in potential danger? well, alright then lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:40 AM
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I don't. I just call them spineless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 01:49 PM
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yes, I wouldn’t necessarily call it "fair" but still, if I personally made an impulsive (or maybe dumb?) decision to push a drunk guy, no matter the context, I’d still expect some kind of protection from my guy. telling your girlfriend "hey, good thing I was there, that was pretty dumb of you to risk a physical confrontation with a drunk guy" is one thing. but doing nothing, just staring at your phone, and then saying "that was risky, you idiot, I’d never risk myself getting hurt for your stupid…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 12:03 PM
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that’s even more reason for the guy to step up and physically put himself between the drunk and his girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:14 AM
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okay, so you didn’t say that, but multiple people here do hold that view. I assumed you probably agreed with them since you're calling me out but not them, so that’s my bad for jumping to conclusions. you’re looking at this like some outsider trying to analyze a situation from a safe distance. I’m trying to see it from the girlfriend’s perspective, standing next to a guy who turned into the freaking statue of liberty, frozen, silent, and doing absolutely nothing. I’m not saying he needed to star…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:12 AM
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your whole argument is based on "avoiding physical risks" and you keep saying that in situations like these, women typically aren’t at the same level of physical risk as men. so if the man can’t somehow deescalate or walk away, then using his girlfriend or wife as a "human shield" or "bait" or whatever actually kind of makes sense in that logic. after all, the guy who's looking for trouble is probably not going to hit the woman, but he might knock the man out... so, maybe you should consider hid…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:26 AM
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you could be right, but I think when we engage with these posts, whether they’re true or not, we need to assume they are and respond based on that context. he could have still called the police and done something, so the girl wouldn’t have had to ask the bartender for help.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 08:25 AM
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she didn’t try to jump into a fire hoop for fun, she actually went in to help someone who needed it. you sound like the type who’d just stand there and watch your girlfriend get catcalled and hit on by a bunch of guys right in front of you and then act like you didn’t hear or see anything :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:24 AM
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you can have that mindset, where your reaction to everything is basically "I stare at my phone because I might die" and women can have the mindset that guys like this aren’t worth dating or even keeping as friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:10 AM
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source for what? all of you here in the comments are talking about how you're sooo afraid of getting put into a coma because it's soooo dangerous to get into a physical fight with another man. isn't that reason enough to think the 'harasser' also finds it riskier to fight a man? in that moment, the world doesn't slow down like some anime, and you don't stand there listening to your inner monologue saying "hmm what do I gain by stepping in?" or "let's see how this situation started" you either do…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:48 AM
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call it whatever you want, but if your reason for not standing up in that moment is "she's dumb" then you're a bad partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:42 AM
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you see, this is exactly what I mean when I say you're not engaging in good faith. in those moments when a rare altercation happens, your brain isn’t analyzing data like that. you don’t stop and think "hmm, my girlfriend is in danger, but why? is she being dumb and causing this, or is it just some random guy threatening to bash her head against a wall for no reason?” if you actually care about your girlfriend, your reaction is to 'protect' her, not analyze the situation to see if she somehow bro…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:38 AM
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so if you genuinely believe that men shouldn’t engage in situations like this because it’s riskier for them to get hit by another man, let me ask you this, if you got into an altercation with another man and your wife was present, would you use her as a human shield? because, logically, in that situation, there’s a better chance of him backing off. you won’t get hurt, your wife won’t get hurt(?) it’s probably a win-win for everyone I guess? do you see how ridiculous that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:32 AM
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I think a drunk guy like that is much more likely to hit a woman who can’t fight back than a man who might punch him back.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:26 AM
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in this context the woman was in a position of vulnerability, and the man's response was to just scroll on his phone, if a small woman can have the guts to stand up and defend someone in need, why can't an adult man have at least half the guts to do something for someone they love? the point wasn't leaping headlong into a fight, it's about showing you care enough to at least TRY, be it stepping in verbally, creating some kind of distraction, or at least standing by her side instead of pretending…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:24 AM
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because he'd have a better chance of defusing the situation, verbally or if it came to that physically than I would. I could be wrong but I think a drunk loser is more likely to back off if a man is engaging with him, and he’s LESS likely to take the physical risk of fighting another man. it’s not like I expect the guy to enter regular boxing matches to prove his love or whatever. situations like this are already super rare, but IF they do happen and his response is to just stand there playing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:08 AM
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not every encounter ends in a fight, in fact most of them don’t. choosing to NOT engage with the situation at all, even verbally, while HE was clearly aware that something could really go wrong just shows that this dude didn’t care about his girlfriend at all, not even a tiny bit. I’m a freaking tiny woman, I'm 84 pounds, and I’ve put myself in dangerous situations where I could’ve been in serious trouble...over STRAY CATS being harassed by a HORDE of stupid teenage boys. and this guy couldn’t e…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 05:58 AM
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I get why some people aren't really interested in deeply engaging with this post due to the volume of bad faith arguments and misogyny here, but I'll take the bait. Sooo it depends, of course, but taking that 2x post for an example, I would honestly not want that guy even as a friend, let alone as my boyfriend. and if it were happening with me, well, I would have broken up with him right that moment, without any hesitation. I'd probably even do something to make him feel really bad, like, right …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 05:43 AM
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I’m dying to know...have they actually looked at the stuff being posted there? or are they just blindly assuming? and if they did look, are they seriously so out of touch that they didn’t notice the obvious pattern of toxic, manipulative behavior those posts are calling out?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 11:21 AM
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probably? why not? the majority of men who are that far gone into the whole "trad" stuff either naturally hold those ideas or support them. I’m pretty sure you won’t find many of them defending women’s rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:23 PM
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what type of man do you think is more likely to have opinions like "taking away women's voting rights is a good idea" or "kicking women out of the workforce is a good thing"? is it the type of guy who wants a traditional partner, or the type who doesn’t care and is okay with having an independent woman in his life?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:08 PM
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It's true though, men who are primarily after that kind of relationship tend to view women in a very low regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 05:58 PM
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looks like we’ve found that type here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:58 AM
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they believe that having a girlfriend with no career, who stays at home, takes care of the house and fulfills their needs like a "super maid" will be easier to control and will ultimately make their life more relaxed and convenient
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 09:34 AM
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I would also personally do it, but I won't stop working since most of my work is online anyway. I just reduce my working hours, deposit everything I earn into a bank account, and use my partner's money for everything else 😇
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 08:44 AM
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I think there are three types of men who think like this. first there's the wealthy (and probably older) type who might be into traditional stuff or perhaps a little insecure? second, there are the delusional ones, who are probably the majority, they lack real-life experience and have never had a meaningful relationship with a woman to understand what it’s like to actually financially take care of their girlfriend. lastly, there's the third group which I’ve personally dealt with, these are guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 08:31 AM
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I already have the impression that shyness is a turnoff for you. people think women aren't interested because this "shy introverted hot guy" barely ever makes a move. but like, if you're not even trying, how on earth are you supposed to know if someone’s interested in you or not? you can't. you just assume that because women aren't throwing themselves at you. And if so, what advice would you give him? I’d tell them to be more aware of their surroundings in social situations, because they don’t s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:39 AM
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Can't, it's too brilliant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:42 AM
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OP has missed the weekly posts we see here that basically go like this women are delusional, have too many unrealistic high standards, and are sluts = sad men = declining birth rates = the collapse of civilization :( solution: take women’s rights away, kick them out of the job market, make them dependent on men again, and voilà! most will suddenly become submissive pure virgin non-hoes and marry anyone! humanity is saved :3
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:27 AM
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if you think you’re a “desirable” man, but you have no luck with supposedly “average or below-average” women, then there’s a 99% chance that the truth is you’re not desirable at all. in fact, you’re probably not even average. AND those women you’re labeling as “average” are probably super pretty and way out of your league. and the ones you deem “below average” are likely just regular, normal-looking women, who are again, too good for you. I’ve never in my life seen an actually desirable guy, lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:55 AM
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I’d also rather go to jail than be forced into "communal work" with my neighbors.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 03:47 PM
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that's what you think, I think being horny isn’t just about the lack of standards or the willingness to go after anyone or anything, it’s about what’s happening inside your mind too. people, friends and family probably see me as the most innocent, pure person ever, someone who doesn’t spend a second thinking about stuff like this. but I’m horny a lot, day and night, at work, at school, sometimes all day long. and trust me, my thoughts are way more detailed and wild than anyone would expect. I’ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:20 AM
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just because you're willing to sleep with anything that moves and have no standards doesn't make you great at sex or very horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:09 AM
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I actually ratted out my best friend over something like this once. and it wasn’t even a marriage, just a serious relationship. but I should add, I literally knew all the people involved and all the details. like for example, I knew the guy was a total trash human, but the girl was super naive and crazy in love with him. he was her first ever boyfriend, and she would spend hours traveling from her city every week just to see him, but he was cheating on her with my best friend the whole time anyw…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:36 PM
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the whole RP thing is basically just a plan or whatever they want to call it to help certain men attract the most shallow, materialistic women out there. that’s literally it. all that "wE cArE aBOuT mEn" talk? total marketing stunt to get people to buy into their gurus' (aka their 'daddy’s') online scams or join their discords uni (lol) or whatever the latest bogus scheme is. it's all aimed at sad, lonely, and angry boys who spend 10 hours a day staring at screens, hating on women, while barely …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:55 AM
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we do not have unlimited time to spend on infinite dates with strangers, as too many people make a less than great first impression from the outset. first impressions do matter, and if someone seems disrespectful, weird and inconsiderate, then it is most likely not worth further investment. we have to be realistic about our energy and concerns for safety. it is not that simplified, since the "just give more people a chance" advice is neither practical nor safe for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 05:47 AM
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alright? good for you I guess, but just because you personally didn’t feel exploited that doesn’t change the fact that the industry itself is rooted in exploitation, you enjoying it doesn’t magically erase the reality that most women don’t have the same “freely chosen” experience you did, right? and yes I understand, It’s cute that you think your individual story somehow outweighs the overwhelming data showing that sex work is linked to higher rates of violence, abuse, and PTSD for the majority …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:46 PM
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Just a former sex worker of course you are. spending tax money on something that’s like, systematically exploiting and ruining women’s lives, a bold and brave idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:35 AM
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okay, so where I live, virginity tests used to be super common. like it was almost expected if you were getting married. thankfully now only a few super religious and paranoid families still do it now. some medical centers actually still offer these tests, it's like they make the girl go, usually with some creepy chaperone from the guy’s family, to get her privates checked to make sure she hasn’t been with anyone before. only then is she deemed “pure” enough for marriage. what’s wild is that som…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:43 AM
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only then the local liberals can claim they've won. what does that mean
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 08:48 PM
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did I strike a nerve there mr.terrorist sympathizer?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:11 AM
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we're absolutely dominating them in the culture war though, there's no doubt about that. but yes, technically, they're still in charge of the country. I don't know about that, but I can tell if they ever fall, it’s gonna come with a heavy price, like blood and destruction everywhere you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 10:19 AM
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most of the bigger, more developed cities in Iran are culturally and socially much closer to Tehran than to some tiny village in ahwaz where girls are married off at 10. also like as we’re literally talking right now, there’s this huge shift happening, women all over Iran are becoming more and more educated, open minded and liberal. what you see in most cities today (some women going around without scarfs) you wouldn’t have even dreamed of seeing just two years ago, so yeah, we're winning.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 09:19 AM
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You're quite welcome lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:23 PM
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I’m from Tehran, and I can’t cook, and literally none of my friends can either. plus, the divorce to marriage ratio in cities is at a whopping 44%, which is higher than some western countries. and the birth rates has never been this low in like our history, we've got more girls in universities than guys. most girls my age, like from 18-22, have or had boyfriends, sometimes multiple ones. are you perhaps mistaking Iranian women for Afghan women or something? because we’re not exactly that traditi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:05 PM
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you had to sneak in a jab at girls who like games too? calling the hobby low status wasn’t enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:40 PM
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what you’re saying actually makes so much sense, I guess I was just looking at it from my own perspective and kind of a neutral, non-gendered point of view. generally speaking, I totally like the idea of having someone and all that, but it’s not something that’s constantly on my mind. I might crush on one or two people a year, and even then, I don’t actively pursue them, because to me, It’s more like a passing thought, if something romantic happens, cool. If not, also cool...and that’s kinda the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:13 PM
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I didn't say they don't care, they do, but definitely way less than your typical guy. and I’m speaking from personal experience , so I could be wrong I guess, but I’ve been part of a ton of super niche, nerdy, and totally male-dominated communities since I was like super young and that's what I saw.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:20 PM
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honestly I think these guys who are supposedly the "male equivalent" of me are actually way less interested in pursuing relationships than most people assume. there’s all this online talk about these needy, super awkward, ultra-geeky guys desperately searching for romance, but that group is such a tiny, but yet loud and overrepresented part of this demographic. the majority of these nerds who are somehow introverted and have their lives somewhat together are too focused on a bunch of other thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:46 PM
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sounds like we’re both in the what the heck do we do with life thing club. it’s actually funny because this morning I was browsing MAL looking at reviews to add a few more things to my watchlist. but then I realized I’m waaay too lazy to read through the reviews and thought eh, I’ll just ask people what to watch and then I completely forgot about it. anyway, I watched the older version of Spice and Wolf and really liked it, so I’ll definitely look into the new one when I have some time. as for D…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:22 PM
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thanks, it’s literally the only option that’ll make life feel a little less suffocating for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:44 PM
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you seem insanely successful, so it’s kind of wild that anyone could even think of you as a ‘loser.’ but in my case, I don’t really blame my family. they’ve done everything they could for me, and honestly, I’ve got zero ambitions or big plans. I just know I’m not going to become anyone super important or successful in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:02 PM
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well, that’s not exactly how I would phrase it, but I guess you could say I’m a bit of a pessimist, unmotivated at times, and maybe a little apathetic? and of course, socially awkward, I also don’t vibe with people that much. I’m suuuper introverted and shy, and honestly, not the most agreeable person either. oh, and I’m only 21, but I basically have the personality of an old cat lady. while everyone around me like my family and friends are out there with big dreams about businesses, careers, ed…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:00 PM
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I don’t know, like I said, based on what I read, I thought people would just dismiss my opinion and be like actually those ‘traits’ can’t be seen as negative for women, etc. 💁‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:11 AM
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it kinda feels nice, not gonna lie. because based on what you wrote and some other comments made by some guys here, apparently, I can't even be considered a "female loser" even though I totally feel like one and my family also thinks I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 08:56 AM
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If men can be happy being used for sex, why can't women? generally speaking, a lot of these men who are totally fine with being "used" are still getting what they want out of that kind of relationship, which is just sex and basically "getting off" but for women? ehh, what's there to be happy about if you feel used and you're not even enjoying any part of it? like not even physical satisfaction?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:40 AM
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a lot of the ridiculous stuff people say on the internet actually turns out to be surprisingly true tho, and sometimes even useful in real life, especially these types of subreddits, they really opened my eyes to how much I’d been manipulated for years. I mean I’ve always been super online since I was like 11 or something, but I wasn’t in these specific spaces where men and women talk about what they think, feel, and experience with each other. for example, there was this guy I was...let's say, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:25 AM
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so that's your idea of being emotionally available? a kissless virgin incel who's never even been touched by the opposite sex but is obsessed with virginity? the cold men you see as "successful" in the dating scene aren’t thriving because of their emotional detachment. they're either very rich, so they basically buy their way into relationships, or they're conventionally attractive enough to fool people. the majority of men who are happy and in loving relationships aren’t cold-hearted psychopath…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:34 PM
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no, they totally aren’t lol! what are you even talking about? how do you know what I do in my personal life? I was talking about society in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:02 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:58 PM
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yes, the real crisis is men having to do something other than offer a mediocre paycheck and a penis to keep a woman interested, imagine having to actually be emotionally available now, scary times, indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:08 PM
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I hope you know if women are actually talking to you about their sex lives like that, it’s probably because they see you as completely non-threatening, like zero romantic potential, like the gay best friend or a wallflower in the room. trust me, no one’s sharing intimate details with you because you're some irresistible playboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:51 AM
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honestly, I would never have a child unless I’m married and in a super strong, committed relationship, I need to know for sure that my children's financial future is secure, no matter what, so yeah, I’d choose being alone over that specific scenario without a second thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:44 AM
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so, first you tell me the data doesn’t show that, and then when I give you actual official data, you just dismiss it? because apparently, cops are…what? racist toward Black people and sexist toward men? that’s sooooo ridiculous I could just sit and cry! as someone who had to fend off multiple sexual assault you should totally put that in your bio if you ever decide to make a profile on a dating app or something, it’s super hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:02 PM
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what is this then?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:34 PM
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you do realize that the magic trick you’re trying to pull here...like flipping the script doesn’t really work right? because it completely ignores the scale and impact of the issue. yes we all know that men can and do experience sexual violence, but the overwhelming majority of rape victims are still women. more than 90% of rape victims are female, and girls aged 16-19 are four times more likely than the general population to be victims of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assault. so no, men aren…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:17 AM
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why on earth would I bother engaging with a troll
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:19 AM
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see how you literally don’t care about the truth or solving any issues? you never engage in good faith, you just treat this like some sort of sport. “wow, let’s win this random online debate, another huge W for us penis wielders!” I swear, if this discussion were specifically about the reasons for rape, you’d be one of those people saying, "yeah, but what were those girls wearing in public? and why?"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:07 AM
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If you had to guess and even put money on it, which number do you think is higher? the amount of men who’ve committed suicide because they were wrongly accused of something like that, or the number of women especially in more conservative and religious countries who were victims of sexual assault and then decided to take their own lives due to shame and depression?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:02 AM
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the vast majority of women have definitely been sexually molested at some point in their lives, often multiple times and by multiple men and almost 90-99% of these sexual assaults are committed by men, and you have to consider that a lot of cases, probably half if not more, aren't even reported. so, the actual number of men doing this is much higher than you might believe. that's why there needs to be a specific focus on teaching men not to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:57 AM
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well I'm more accustomed to a slightly different kind of argument because I usually debate this with Islamists. interestingly enough, they share quite a few points with your perspective here, but instead of bringing up the army, debt, or OF they target education. they argue that education will eventually turn women into 'hoes' by exposing their minds to things they don't need to know. it makes them less submissive, less agreeable, less religious, and more distant from god. not only does this mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:52 PM
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wait, did you really just lump joining the military and signing legal contracts in with prostitution and OF? while we're at it, do you think women should vote? lol anyway...these kinds of relationships rarely happen, and when they do, it's nothing like a normal relationship, it's absolutely a 100% materialistic, transactional relationship where the younger person is basically only there for some sort of financial security and nothing else. also, unfortunately, I’m all too familiar with this red …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:34 PM
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but you do realize that media depictions aren’t always a true reflection of widespread opinion, right? some ideas are pushed as the latest and greatest, but there’s a considerable portion of society that’s not buying into it. in this case, just because two brain-rotted, clueless writers living in hollywood bubbles think a grandma dating a high schooler is "hot" doesn’t mean your average woman or man on the street will agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:06 AM
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good for you but I find both situations to be unsettling and rather pathetic. frankly, anyone in their 30/40s dating someone barely of legal age should probably be on some sort of watchlist, because there's a significant chance they're involved in some deeply troubling, if not outright criminal behavior. In all my life, I've never encountered anyone who claims that an older woman dating a teenager is empowering
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:39 AM
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why do you think this is about gender? If a 30 year old man dating a teenage girl is inappropriate, the same goes for a 30 year old woman dating a teenage boy, that's how normal humans see these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:28 AM
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one of the things that shocks me personally is seeing how many men in rich, modern western societies are into the redpill movement. It’s surprising because I know the kind of rhetoric they're using gets heavily criticized, even where I live, which is an Islamic theocracy with a lot of traditional values. what I always wonder is whether these men are into it because they actually see it working in their own lives, or if most of them are just bitter fanboys like literal incels who hate women and f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:07 AM
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well, kind of, more like just going out, like on dates, to cafes, hanging out with friends, doing picnics etc, all the stuff I haven’t really been into for years. and I was like, dude! I can do this, like, once a week? because after work, my physical and social battery is so drained that all I can do is sit with my cat and watch something on my laptop...but he had other "healthier" plans for me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:30 PM
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here's the thing I learned the hard way, it doesn’t always work out even when you take your time, like, I had this guy friend who was in my life for years, and he had this super positive influence on me, just as a friend. so, when he finally asked me out, I was like, yes! this is perfect because he already knows how quirky and weird I am, and he totally gets me. but, ugh, years of friendship, it all went down the drain in just one month of this so-called "relationship" it turns out he thought he…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:28 AM
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I can relate to OP because I find most men I see on a daily basis extremely unattractive too. but seriously, bashing American women for being "fat" when there are just as many obese American men is hilariously stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:35 PM
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lol do you think we like fat guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:26 PM
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I’m guessing you’re American because I’ve seen this same kind of comment from American men so many times online. I looked up some data, and it turns out there are just as many overweight and obese men in America as there are women. actually, the majority of them are men! but when I see comments like yours, it almost seems like you’re saying all American men are tall, fit, and look like Chris Hemsworth, while all women are obese and need mobility scooters. so my question is: when you say stuff li…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:45 AM
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I’ve turned down really awesome guys just because they weren't into cats like I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:33 AM
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yes not a men's issue at all, also it's women who are leading the charge on these whiny "loneliness epidemic" sob stories I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:22 AM
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I feel like the woman in the video was being pretty rude aswell, the guy's behavior wasn't ideal either, like showing that level of cheapness on a first date probably wasn’t the best move. but honestly she came off as the more unpleasant one in that situation, she could have just suggested splitting the check and said goodbye, instead of going out of her way to make him feel awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 06:36 AM
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two other things come to mind that I'd to add to this, the first one is something I noticed while using dating apps, and then realized happens in real life too, so for example, on apps like tinder, a lot of men, even the attractive ones, don’t really look at women's profiles or read their bios, they just swipe right on everyone, literally spamming it with their fingers, and then come back hours later to message all the women they've matched with, it feels like in real life, they do the same thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 05:41 AM
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of course, I'm not trying to generalize or anything, but from my own experience, these guys tend to be quite performative. It’s like they’re not actually expressing what they truly believe. I mean, if they even have strong opinions in the first place. I've seen firsthand how these types of guys can instantly switch to acting like a "regular sexist" the moment they get rejected or realize they don’t really have a chance anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 04:55 AM
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well, I think the question is a little too broad? like there are so many factors that come into play here, and just saying "an average guy who hasn't had any relationships or sex" doesn't really give enough context. and what does "average" even mean here? and why hasn't he had any relationships? is it by choice, or is there something deeper going on that would make dating or intimacy difficult? for me, it really comes down to whether I like and trust the person, if he’s someone I genuinely conne…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:02 PM
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people don’t want to play a secondary role in what might be their only shot at happiness in life, that’s why most women would rather stay single than be in a polygynous relationship where they have to share a man, and so, instead of telling these men to just give up on love and intimacy, form bromances, and jerk off, perhaps you should help them improve their chances of building real relationships with women. also, I hope you realize that polygynous relationships aren’t even popular in most Isla…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:50 AM
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by your criteria, the majority of modern men are also pretty sad, miserable, and depressed. you have the highest suicide rates in probably all of history, and you constantly complain about your loneliness epidemic, you're dropping out of college and doing worse in education compared to the past few decades, and you make up the majority of drug addicts and homeless individuals. considering the time and situation, women, objectively speaking, are doing better than ever in history, so maybe, in thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:24 AM
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I'm sorry, but what you're suggesting here is beyond shocking, I really can't tell if it's coming from a place of hate, if you're just trying to be edgy, or if you simply don't care and are just trying to win an online argument. but, seriously, holy shit! I'll just assume that your "takes" are coming from a lack of empathy, so lemme give you an example, maybe you will get it. generally speaking, when you look into the stories of many north korean defectors, they often mention that people in ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:20 AM
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maybe that’s true if you’re literally a tribal person who sees the opposite gender as nothing more than walking genitals, but come on, people have different preferences, interests, and types, especially now more than ever. you’re not going to want to have sex with anything that moves unless, again, you’re either a tribal person fresh out of the amazon or someone who never leaves the house and barely has any human interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 10:11 AM
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It's good that you think it's a fantasy, it works out well for me, since that's how I got my last three phones. my uncles, who live there but don't work, sent them to me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:42 PM
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they're from Iran and most of them are now in UK and germany. the ones in the UK don't work at all. they pretend to be very sick and unable to work, get money, and then use that money to travel around europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:39 AM
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almost all of my family members are refugees in eu and they're living extremely comfortable lives. they even travel! compared to the lives they had back home, they're living like royalty there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:14 AM
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well, I'm single now, but one thing my ex used to do was make me feel incredibly special, like I was literally the most important person in the world to him. I think this is something that doesn't get a lot of attention, and that's a shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:33 AM
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so, are you saying most men want someone who's like a slave? someone submissive who never challenges their authority or starts arguments, and always says yes? submissive both in bed and in mind lol? why not just get a sexdoll?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:27 AM
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even in more traditional, religious, and less developed countries, women are becoming less submissive, and the majority of younger educated men are fine with it, so you'd have to be entirely mad to think that being "submissive" is that important to the average guy living in a modern western society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:00 AM
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when RP men discuss their 'ideal' woman for marriage, the type they envision is quite similar to what trads desire, no? because they also fetishize being with a naive young girl who is preferably not very educated, doesn't have a career, isn't politically opinionated, and is also a virgin. the difference is that RP men are often...to put it nicely...promiscuous themselves...but in the end, they want to be with some pure angel.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:09 AM
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I've absolutely no doubt in my mind that intelligent, educated women who value themselves can still make bad decisions when it comes to men. the point is, those certain types of men, who are very visibly misogynistic and literally looking for a supermaid who also provides them with sex, mostly will end up with a certain type of woman, and these women are incredibly shallow, materialistic, and have no self-respect. (seriously, how much can you respect yourself if you're with someone who thinks yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:52 AM
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don't act like these women were just impoverished and desperate because if you look at their background they clearly weren't that poor that's cute that you think that, OP, but incredibly rich and successful people are accepting bribes and being bought left and right every day, all around the world. Industrialists, politicians, entrepreneurs, executives, lawyers, doctors, bankers, and so on. and you don't think some questionable mediocre artists can be bought off by the biggest billionaire in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:03 AM
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okay, how can you "CHOOSE" to have a happy marriage if your partner is abusive, immature, and broke?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:53 PM
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yeah, it's that simple. just be "happy"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:39 PM
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you see, we should basically doom our lives and be stuck in an absolutely horrible marriage for the rest of our lives so our kids' "childhood" doesn't get even slightly affected. It's not like kids have a long future ahead of them and can recover even if something less than ideal happens to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:36 PM
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Yes, I can't believe how many people here are missing this. basically, sometimes a behavior can be objectively creepy because it's so out of line and inappropriate, in these cases, the attraction doesn’t give the guy a free pass, and most people, men and women from probably different backgrounds and ideas would agree that what happened was creepy. then we have other situations that aren't as straightforward but still don't really push social norms in a blatant way, and so here, if the guy doing …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:27 AM
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what percentage of women in society do you think are constantly falling for serial killers? and what percentage of women do you think support that sort of attraction and try to "justify" it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:58 AM
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I see, so you think we should move on from marriage and monogamy in general, and have men walking around having sex with random women and just making children, like literal animals in the wild, you think that's the right path for humanity and the future of our children? edit: this is why you people should stick to giving advice about hookups and not talk about the future of humanity and foreign policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:21 PM
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but I don't really care how neanderthals operated 400,000 years ago and what was natural or unnatural for them. I'm talking about right now, in this day and age, the majority of men, from all cultural, religious, and social backgrounds, expect their partners to be exclusively loyal to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:37 PM
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women are enforcing a situation where they want men to be with 1 woman (themselves). I'm a little bit confused. doesn't this go both ways? men also want their partner to be only committed to them, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:22 PM
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so, tell me you're a man, right? if from time to time, your 'guy' friends suddenly become flirty and then ask you out on a date, you're saying you wouldn't get upset or be weirded out? and the dynamic of your friendship would remain the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:06 AM
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Daniel offers the balance of emotional maturity, stability, and a secure future that I value highly in a long-term partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:01 AM
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I just assume that 99% of guys watch porn anyway, so I don't really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:56 AM
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that is what redpill is doing - not saying that particular people are good or bad but explaining how the world works, especially for men. yes, they're teaching men to find and attract the kind of women who are solely interested in material goods and don't have much self-respect. I admit, what they're doing is still a kind of service to both women and men, in the sense that men who embrace RP would pair up with shallow women who, again, only care about material goods and nothing else. and so, oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:06 AM
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I actually tried looking for that tweet and couldn't find it. I thought maybe he deleted it or something, but I guess you're right about it being fake. my bad for that. still, considering the amount of dumb stuff he says, it isn't weird that most people believed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:32 AM
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the tactics they use are intended to attract women who are seeking material goods and transactional relationships. do you think a self-respecting average woman would think "wow, look at this alpha beast, he's so awesome, he's saying cheating is okay, women should be like obedient slaves who wash dishes and make us sandwiches, their rights are a joke, they shouldn't even have any, and they're also dumb and bad at driving, hehe"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:30 PM
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the type of advice they give about dating usually doesn't quite work out well, in the sense that their followers, aren't really attracting normal women, they're attracting, practically, escorts. the reason we get annoyed sometimes is that they say a lot of outright retarded stuff, like Tate tweeting, 'female orgasm is a liberal myth' the dude is either outing himself as a gay man or as someone who's terrible in bed, but his incel fanbase would say W.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 04:45 AM
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Iran's government is literally terrible to both men and women. men joining the fight wasn’t solely because they felt bad for women it was mainly because they were frustrated with the entire system.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:09 AM
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people here are unhinged. I've had discussions with people who thought not only the solution to dating problems but the solution to pretty much everything is to physically and forcibly remove women from their jobs and schools, and literally force them to marry and be stay at home moms. literal radical Islamists I sometimes talk to are much more open-minded and logical than some of the guys here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 10:51 PM
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No one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:43 PM
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sounds like you're projecting, just because you're single and feel unwanted doesn't mean everyone in that situation does. some people have plenty of options and choose to stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:25 AM
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yes, sad, lonely, desperate, vulnerable men who struggle with romance are 'bad' and don't matter, but you and your daddy G are good.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:16 AM
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my dear good sir, this is like if the burglar who stole your stuff suddenly became the leader of your neighborhood watch group, and when you confronted him, his response was, 'burglary is bound to happen in society anyway, so what?' It's honestly beyond shocking to me personally that you guys fail to see how him screwing over a bunch of men and destroying their finances, contradicts his image as a moral figure who "cares" about men and is warning them about how EVIL women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:41 AM
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I know, but it makes no sense to me. these men, who were apparently pushed away by modern society and think they were exploited by women, marching behind someone like Tate as their champion? that's like a group of women who are victims of domestic abuse choosing a professional wife-beater as the face of their movement
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:45 AM
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wow, this changes everything. now I think he's a saint.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:37 AM
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at least they are what they are, online sex workers, they're not pretending to be something they aren't. Tate pretends to be a champion of men's rights and then catfishes men in order to make money.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:27 AM
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Onlyfans and promiscuous women promote degeneracy and sends bad messages to the youth, especially girls. and someone like Tate, who is literally selling an online 'pimping' course, is promoting what? great christian values?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:24 AM
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You're literally describing what Andrew Tate did, and I quote; these girls had no idea how to act, they weren't being innocent enough. I TOLD them to lie, to act all innocent and inexperienced so the guys watching them would think they had a chance with them and spend more money on them, then I decided to unplug their keyboards and start cat-fishing the guys myself. I had these guys selling their houses, life savings, loans, all of it, and giving it to me. I didn't give a solitary fuck about the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:19 AM
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so him hiring a bunch of 'hoes' and then starting to chat on their behalf with men, basically catfishing them and manipulating them into giving money to him and his 'hoes', is...good? good for whom? because he and his 'hoes' are making money, but the guys who are spending all their money on these 'hoes' thinking they might get a date or even have a potential future with them, are losing big time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:06 AM
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like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:31 PM
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I don't understand how Tate catfishing and screwing over a bunch of men can be considered a sort of fight or resistance against feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:26 PM
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I'm sorry, did you not watch the video I linked?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:18 PM
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I didn't even bring up his problematic misogynistic views, I only mentioned what he actually thought and did to a bunch of vulnerable sad men who were desperate for romance. and by the way, I'm pretty sure there are plenty of figures in the scene who don't exactly love feminism but also don't exploit a bunch of men and then call themselves "men's rights activists" and amazing role models.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:07 PM
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https://youtu.be/WKibLhAGP1A?t=73 there you go
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:12 PM
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Andrew Tate (men's rights activist, amazing role model for men, a symbol of morality); these girls had no idea how to act, they weren't being innocent enough. I TOLD them to lie, to act all innocent and inexperienced so the guys watching them would think they had a chance and spend more money on them, then I decided to unplug their keyboards and start cat-fishing the guys myself. I had these guys selling their houses, life savings, loans, all of it, and giving it to me. I didn't give a solitary …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 09:53 AM
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I'm sorry but whose problem is that? the point is in a perfect world, men would only ask out women they're genuinely interested in, they wouldn't treat it like swiping on like tinder or something, asking out ten random women they think are pretty, hoping one of them will say yes. and of course women would only say yes to a date with a man they are truly excited about. I don't want to dismiss your personal experience but maybe you dated a certain type of women, or perhaps you haven't dated that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 06:13 PM
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this is not rocket science, the person initiating the date should pay for the date, If it goes well and they both like each other and decide on another date, then the other person can pay, and they could go back and forth or split, gender's totally irrelevant here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:40 PM
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do you really need a deep and detailed explanation about why an adult man dating a teenager, or in some cases an actual child, is creepy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:16 PM
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you'd want your teenage daughter to go out with a 26-30 year old dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:46 PM
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I'd say a 23 year old trying to date an 18 year old or, in other cases, in a different country where they have different laws for the age of consent, like a 21 year old wanting to be with a 15-16 year old, is also extremely creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:42 PM
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the vast majority of men, both online and in real life, have no idea what makeup actually is, most of them seem to think makeup is only red lipstick and black eyeliner, It's kind of shocking that these are usually the ONLY things they recognize, while having no idea what highlighter, foundation, concealer, blush, brow pencil, mascara, lip contour, setting powder, bronzer, primer, eye shadow, setting spray, brow gel, contour powder, color corrector, lip liner, translucent powder, illuminator, set…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:33 PM
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I thought the question was something like "women don't care about men and see them as NPCs, so why would they get upset if a man disappears?" I told you that's not true, and why I would feel offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:11 AM
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manipulation isn't nice, and I wouldn't expect someone who doesn't see me as a friend to stick around. people get offended for different reasons. for me, as an introvert who doesn't want many friends or social interactions, losing even one friend is a big deal. if someone is in my social circle, it means I care about them a lot and we have a lot in common, and we enjoy talking. so, for Bobby to leave like that would mean our relationship didn't matter to him because he only wanted a romantic par…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 06:43 AM
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there's also this scenario, Bobby asks you out, gets rejected, throws a tantrum, whines about how you led him on, calls you something mean, and disappears. in that case, it means that Bobby never really cared for you or saw you as a fellow human being or a potential friend, he just wanted to have sex, but his plans didn't work, so he left. that's usually how Bobby operates in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:31 AM
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I’m sorry you feel that way, but I promise I'm not happy about anyone's struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 04:28 AM
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there are many reasons for this shift, and this is just one of the initial factors. and yes, I know men today are likely less sexist, more educated, and more aware than ever before, but the damage has already been done.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:13 PM
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no, there isn’t. there’s practically no difference between what you're describing and hiring a sugar baby, If you’re significantly older and naturally don’t have much in common with your partner...or whatever, then the only thing you bring to the table is financial security, lots of it, you know very well that’s the only reason a much younger person might consider staying with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:07 PM
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he was literally worshiping me, no one has ever given me that much care and attention before. Nothing. That's the point. right, plus those were not excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:28 PM
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If we don't understand each other's culture, references, and humor, and we generally don't have much in common to talk about then how are we supposed to connect on a more deeper level and enjoy each other's company?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:23 PM
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the last person I dated was three years older than me, extremely depressed and suicidal, with no education, skills, job, or even a driver's license. but even if what you're saying is true, so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:16 PM
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true, but when there is a culture of problematic behavior among men, it affects how women perceive and interact with ALL men, including those who might not be problematic themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:11 PM
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yes, maybe in general women tend to be in relationships where men earn slightly more than they do, but the difference is not very significant, because like in most cases, regardless of gender, people choose partners from their own social class. but it seems like your theory suggests that all women are always aiming for billionaires? women don't stay single just because they think their potential future partners earn slightly less money, they stay single because many men don't offer much in terms…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:00 PM
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but you said that when women say "this and that," they really mean that someone agrees with them. and how wanting someone who's like you is 'narcissistic' for some reason, anyway, maybe I misunderstood your point. I have older guy friends who are in their mid-30s. I play online games with them once or twice a week. our lifestyles and priorities are worlds apart, they talk about their careers and long-term investments, while I'm still figuring out my path and just starting to live independently, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:43 PM
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the problem is that many men seem blind to the fact that one of the main reasons dating and especially hooking up is getting harder for them is men themselves, over the decades men have acted incredibly creepy, abusive, inappropriate, out of line, and manipulative towards women. and now, thanks to modern media, these things are being shared everywhere, and so women are now more aware of them than ever in history. so naturally, this has led to a decrease in trust and willingness to take risks wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:41 PM
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hmm, so modern feminism has led us to having a lot of sex with "top men" and that's somehow making these men more powerful, and the only way to fight this very evil trend is to lower our standards and date just anybody? there are also two things that I really don't get here. one, how does having a lot of sex make a man more powerful? do they get money for it somehow? do they get promoted? or if they have a certain amount of sex, will they ascend to godhood? two, if only these 1% top men are happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:10 PM
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let's say I have a personal disdain for religion or certain political beliefs and ideologies, what's objectively wrong with that? It's not like I go around specifically looking for people with opposite beliefs to forcibly change their minds. the whole purpose of bringing up something like "shared beliefs and values being important to me" is to avoid those very people whose politics or whatever I don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:56 PM
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you do? I mean It'd be kind of hypocritical of me to not choose Paul, since we seem so similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:14 AM
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the only one I'd not only consider but probably be excited about is Paul, of course, if by "slob" you mean he's someone like me, who's disorganized, leaves things lying around, and is generally lazy but maintains amazing personal physical hygiene? then I'd be fine with that, but if that’s not the case then I’d prefer any of the others, even the racist Trump-supporting hunter, over someone who is not only lazy but also physically disgusting and unhygienic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:01 AM
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bitterness and jealousy? because a 36 year old single mom with two kids can find a date faster and more easily than 95% of those guys
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:29 PM
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I'm sorry, how am I making stuff up? you're saying women's orgasm is basically worthless because of "scientific biological" reasons, while men's orgasm (what you really mean by that isn't just ejaculation, you mean the actual act of sex) is integral for the survival of civilization. I'm telling you women's orgasm isn't useless if it matters to literally ALL women, who are half of the population of this planet. also, by your own logic, a guy, needing to reach orgasm with a woman's body is also no…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:27 AM
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They're unnecessary for fertilization. A woman can be impregnated without experiencing climax. The female orgasm really doesn't matter. At least some men have needed to experience orgasm to deposit enough sperm to impregnate a woman (precum alone will rarely do it and even that requires at least some sexual stimulation). you write that "it’s unnecessary for fertilization so it's useless" what I read is, "I'm bad, lazy, and incompetent in bed, so just let me have my way with you without giving an…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:05 AM
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so if you know that, then why imply that women's orgasms are basically useless? If the only important thing is "turning sperms into babies for the survival of civilization," then just do your business in a cup and give it to the nice doctors, they'll handle the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:09 AM
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you don't see them because they barely exist. yes, you can find some women complaining about this in very niche and specific spaces, but guys are complaining about it literally everywhere. take Reddit, for example, guys are ranting about not being able to get laid in almost every single subreddit you can find.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:03 AM
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I did plan to eventually move to the US, but over the years, almost all of our family has moved out of the country. now my brother is in the process of leaving and immigrating to Canada too. If I were to leave as well, my parents who are getting older and have no one left in the country would be left all alone for the rest of their lives since they can’t or won't move, so I’d honestly rather stay in their lives instead of chasing my so called dreams.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 06:52 PM
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being friends first is usually great advice, especially when you're genuinely interested in someone in a romantic way. PRETENDING to be someone's friend just to get a chance at sex, and then throwing a "nice guy" tantrum and disappearing when you don't get what you want, is totally different. In the first scenario, you're truly interested in someone and want to connect with them on a deeper, more human level. In the second scenario, you're just trying to get some sex, while not actually caring a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 06:30 AM
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I've seen Andrew Tate's content, don't you people see him as a some sort of guru?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:59 AM
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criticizing the way you misuse stoicism to promote extremely manipulative tactics isn’t the same as attacking the philosophy itself, I'm calling out the unethical practices disguised as self-improvement, not the legitimate principles of stoicism. also your attempt to conflate the two only highlights how far you’re willing to stretch the truth to defend your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:46 AM
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self-improvement is a universally recognized concept, not limited to any specific ideology or group, it’s a value embraced by people from ALL cultural, religious, and ideological backgrounds. what you're advocating is different. you're promoting "self-improvement" alongside teaching men to cheat, lie, manipulate, and pretend to be someone they're not in order to sleep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:23 AM
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what on earth was that opening line?! If I were in her position, I’d immediately unmatch him instead of arguing like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:50 AM
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no way, I think it’s totally outrageous that most damn modern women aren’t throwing themselves at him . I mean, who wouldn’t be charmed by a unique combination of dental decay and a self-pity parade? the dude is practically the definition of irresistible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:42 AM
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I hate to stalk people's history like this, but OP hasn't brushed his teeth in four years, but he's upset that women aren't giving him a chance...and essentially, because of that, civilization is collapsing, let that sink in.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 06:43 AM
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you could be absolutely right, as I'm not exactly the most experienced person when it comes to relationships anyway ​ that being said, what this person described sounds a lot like my life. for instance, I'm someone who rarely buys anything for myself and sometimes only eats once a day because I spend almost everything I make on my cats. the crazy part is, I'm living in a really terrible country and I'm not exaggerating when I say that most of my family members have already left because of how ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 08:30 AM
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Just today, I was watching an animation making fun of incels. In the video, the incel calls women his "prey" when the interviewer asks him why he uses that term, he replies that it's because the book he's reading about getting women refers to them as prey.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:29 PM
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as someone who'd never marry a guy who isn't an obsessive cat lover I think this isn't very realistic. compassion and empathy for animals are qualities you either have or don't have, a person who doesn't have them would never go down the path you're talking about. however I do appreciate the effort to help our feline masters because if this post inspires even one guy to rescue and help a cat for any reason, I’d call it a huge win.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:16 PM
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I'm sorry, but I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say here. first, you're kind of agreeing with some of the OP's points about how your actions do affect a lot of women around you. then you're saying you're pushing these women away and concluding your point by saying you're not good enough for them because you can't afford certain things and feel inadequate? what!? you're older and probably wiser than me. so, I don't want to sound like a know-it-all, but dude, give a few people a chance and…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:07 PM
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so if we, as a society, decide to adopt the approach that people like you and pearl are advocating, then there are other implications regarding women that should also be considered. like women's education for example, according to some people, statistics indicate that educated women have much lower marriage rates, and even when they do marry, they experience significantly higher divorce rates compared to less educated women. they also tend to have fewer children, which leads to less stable famil…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:54 PM
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I generally wonder something, like I'm not trying to debate or argue with you in any form or shape, please give me an honest answer... you and the other guy seem to think the word misogynist is just a form of shaming and is misused, etc. I don't completely disagree, it's being misused, probably a lot, more than ever, just like some other labels that I'd rather not bring up. but just another comment I saw you bring up Pearl as one of the red pill figures. now, I'm not that familiar with the other…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:23 AM
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I think it's all about a mix of qualities. like, sure, a guy who's just brave but super bland isn't really appealing. I mean, why would I date someone who feels more like a bodyguard than a boyfriend? It's the same with other traits too. an ideal guy needs to have a bit of everything, kindness, intelligence, a sense of humor, and yes, some bravery. someone who's just one dimensional won't really cut it. It's the balance that makes someone truly interesting and fun to be around
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:44 PM
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People don't just adopt ideologies one day because they are bored and want to do it for the plot. Usually it's because they were unsuccessful with women and internalized that rejection. And now promote a superficial ideology to try and attract superficial women. I love you. do you happen to know Brian, the host and owner of the Whatever podcast? If you aren't familiar with it, it's basically a redpill kind of podcast where, in every episode, they invite a bunch of "e-girls" and OnlyFans girls an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:31 PM
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does anyone remember the e-girl who got killed by her incel stalker? the number of guys who took the side of the killer and were implying that the "poor guy" was led on by the girl...and so she deserved it, was horrifying. it was some ISIS-level stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:48 PM
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take off the mask, it's okay to admit you like something simply because it's "hot"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:47 PM
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these kind of preferences are shaped by more than just biology, they're influenced by culture, society, personal experiences...and unfortunately porn these days. I think It's absurd to believe we can't tell the difference. we can reflect on why we find things attractive, which is why some people recognize that their "preferences" might make them seem kinda shallow and materialistic in the eyes of the public, so they use the "biology made me like it" mask.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:46 PM
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no, I don't care. also, I personally believe that most men who claim they're attracted to certain physical features like larger X and Y due to biological reasons are simply not being honest. they're likely just expressing their sexual preferences but masking it to avoid seeming too explicit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:03 AM
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what do you suggest should happen? apply sharia and stone adulterers to death?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:02 PM
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the phrase "size doesn't matter" can mean different things to different people. for example, it might mean that size is not a deal breaker in a relationship or sex in general. however, if, let's say, your equipment....is so incredibly small that you can't satisfy your partner in terms of penetration, then it's natural, and I'd argue common sense to compensate in other ways. right? or no? would you prefer your partner to always be unsatisfied while you always finish? also it's generally men who a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:55 AM
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but is it? I found out that a lot of guys find it kind of 'cute' and even funny when a girl is insecure about something like breast size.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 10:14 AM
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the reason that these so-called "desperate" guys you're talking about are in relationships is probably because they've been persistent and tried a lot. I have a guy friend who can be described as desperate because he constantly talks about how he'd love to be with someone, yet he barely tries to do anything...He just whines and thinks about it instead of actually doing something like working on himself, putting himself out there, and approaching people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 10:09 AM
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yes, men are indeed the oppressors, but there are also millions of other men who are the victims of those very same men who are in power. they don't deserve to be dehumanized. also, what makes you think I care about what woke philosophy says?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 09:56 AM
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Sure it would apply to them, though not to you. Although Iranians being different to other minorities is still a point of focus. just because Iranians don't have the default ant-west/Islamic take and positions that you like them to have, their opinions don't matter and they're racist against themselves? got it. I thought I was quite explicit? You're worshiping westerners and liberalism, or to be precise, the warped perseption of them that you evidently have. If you're a liberal then I'd argue yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 09:38 AM
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it does to some of them, I'm in touch with a lot of my family members who are living all around the world. and they're also like what I said. can we talk about this whole bias thing you're pushing? like, what exactly do you think I'm worshiping here? you're throwing around these worthless buzzwords that don't mean squat without context. do you seriously believe that having liberal beliefs and standing against garbage religion and traditional values automatically means I'm bowing down to white pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:18 AM
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oh sweetie, did I bruise your little delicate feelings? where did I even hint that I'm dreaming of snagging a western guy? the convo was all about what certain families have in mind for their precious SONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:34 AM
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I literally explained the cultural and social reasons behind it. why did you cut that part from the quote? In their minds, the average girl from a western country is less likely to be an uneducated, clingy stay at home wife who barely contributes anything to the household, especially financially. it has nothing to do with race. edit: I'm not diaspora, genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:22 AM
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We're living in Iran, families who are more educated and liberal-minded would definitely prefer their relatives to marry someone from western countries, because culturally speaking, they prefer them over the beliefs held by most traditional families. they have a problem with internalized racism because they're good immigrants who actually assimilate, don't form Islamic ghettos, don't scare away the natives, don't protest demanding Islamic caliphates, and don't have high crime rates? It's amazing…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:12 AM
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they probably will more than the average woman here. It's literally frowned upon in most of society for women to work once they get married. so, even though more and more women are working and studying while they're young, the majority will just stay at home after they get married, and the men are expected to do everything. in the very building I'm living in, there are 12 families, and only one married woman is working, the rest are at home 24/7. I'm sure if you look at the financial statistics …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:05 AM
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I think I'm funny? I'm well-educated and speak multiple languages, I've a decent career, I've a lot of hobbies that many guys are into, like following some certain popular fantasy franchises and playing lots of video games (where I live this is beyond rare) I'm also very compassionate and emotionally supportive, I've cats which is a plus? oh and from the feedback I've gotten from guys, I'm sure I can be described as fairly attractive. I'm fit, and I take care of my appearance a lot. like, litera…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:57 AM
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"balding older men creeping on young women, getting rejected and then going to thailand to basically buy 18 year olds and call it a marriage" and "incels on the internet crying all day about height" aren't all men though. plus, about "minorities" telling their sons who to marry, how many of them have you actually met? because I'm Iranian and my mom always tells my brothers to marry someone from the west. because they're more likely to actually contribute to the household and not expect the man t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:29 AM
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you really think reducing ( literally genociding them in a nice scientific way) a group of people based on race, gender, or whatever with some sort of biotech is the way to make everything better? just because we think we’re superior and run things better? that kind of thinking and ideology sounds a bit familiar, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:32 AM
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says who? random losers on the internet who’ve had bad dates and have no real-life experience about anything? excluding men from everything is gender apartheid, it's stupid and super discriminatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:25 AM
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suggesting we control the gender ratio through biotech is diabolical, we should focus on improving society through mutual understanding and cooperation, rather than exclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:45 PM
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this is so unproductive...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:08 PM
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that's not what we're talking about though. the question was why "women are a little more pushy with marriage than men," not "why girls are hoes," a point that some people like to apply to literally everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:53 PM
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I see, so it's not really "most" marriages. I wasn't necessarily arguing that marriage is an amazing thing. I said the reason it seems like women are a bit pushier when it comes to marriage is because of the desire for companionship and stability. yes, marriage isn't a sure thing anymore, but there's still more stability and commitment involved when two people are married compared to when they are simply partners or a boyfriend and girlfriend living together. also, most things in life are 50-50,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:50 PM
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most? I'm pretty sure that's a common misconception.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:08 PM
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most of us want marriage for companionship and stability, not just economic reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:56 AM
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this post reads like a script from a bad movie made by Andrew Tate, where everything wrong in life is somehow the fault of women or "leftist dogma." maybe it’s time to put down the pitchfork and embrace the fact that society changes, and that’s okay. everyone's navigating these shifts together, not just one gender or political ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:06 AM
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most of the jokes and comments about penises actually come from straight men themselves, not women. I'm pretty sure they're more obsessed with other men's penis size than most women...and gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 09:31 AM
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I swear to god, I once got a direct message from my friend's grandpa (who was married and had seven grandkids btw)
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