Why do so many guys have a seething hatred for single moms?

wtknight · 2024-07-11T12:12:53+00:00

OP, please make a small edit in order to bring up the AutoModerator.

Creation_Soul · 2024-07-11T12:01:54+00:00

because it's the internet and you will find extreme opinions about pretty much everything.

Yes, most men don't want to date single moms (especially if the man was never married or had kids), but they know to be civil and they just walk away from the relationship.

I also think most women realise that being a single mom is a huge disadvantage for dating.

weenieandthebutt · 2024-07-11T13:34:31+00:00

I think maybe there's a stereotype that single mums get knocked up by the bums/badboys etc and then suddenly want the cuckish nice guy type to step up as a step dad. Or that they raise dysfunctional children and drain welfare etc.

But otherwise, a lot are working hard, been through relationships/marriages that simply didn't workout. A lot want love, not just some guy to be actively involved with the children or to be provide income. It's not my cup of tea but nothing to scorn at or rip them apart for it.

BlackFurosuto · 2024-07-11T15:01:45+00:00

I'm not a fan of the way this is asked, "seething hatred" is something that I don't think many guy actually feel, just a general dislike at worst for the most part. Seething hatred seems to imply something deeper than that.

Being charitable, it's the same reason people don't want to date someone who was in their circle. It's clear you weren't their first choice. When a woman has a child with a man, even if she doesn't think so, to a degree it communicates that she's fully locked in to that man for life. When she goes back into the field, it's like "oh, okay your first choice failed, so you're looking for a backup?" You'll always feel like there's the looming chance that most likely they're gonna run back to their "first choice" aka the baby's father which while women deny happens, is common enough that the advice is generally sound

Cunning_Linguists_ · 2024-07-11T12:11:40+00:00

Personally I don't think about single moms at all, they are completely invisible to me the same way 90% of men are invisible to women.

Jake0024 · 2024-07-11T14:42:04+00:00

I've never run into anything like this. Social media algorithms serve up stuff you're interested in watching. You created this perspective.

Subie- · 2024-07-11T17:35:22+00:00

So my encounters with single moms:

Being late 20s and just average(short, baby face) my options are slimmer and slimmer so that leaves me single moms or divorce women.

Single moms:

Must accept their kid before I accept them.
Do not want more kids. Talk about a slap in the face, might as well schedule my vasectomy.
Baby daddy issues, especially the more attractive ones.
Usually paint the picture as the guy is the bad one.

Just my experience.

wtknight · 2024-07-11T12:11:59+00:00

It’s because they don’t want to take care of another woman’s children nor do they want to be a lower priority to kids who are not their own. Not to mention that the child’s father whom she used to have sex with is often still in her life.

Every extra single mother on the dating market makes it more difficult to find a woman who doesn’t have the “baggage” of children.

khaste · 2024-07-11T14:00:01+00:00

I think your worrying about the rants on the extreme side over the general view of the public. In saying that, theres no hatred for single mothers, i think its more the fact that people are tired of hearing that these single moms cant find anyone, but their standards are ridiculously high and to add, not many men want to take care of another mans kid and have to financially foot some or all of the bill as well.

DarayRaven · 2024-07-11T12:28:31+00:00

Just say single moms aren’t for you and move on

Ok, ladies sorry but single moms are not for me

Happy ?

boom-wham-slam · 2024-07-11T13:33:24+00:00

It's because people in general are live and let live... until someone rubs something in your face.

I don't date single moms. I don't think much about it or talk about it. However, I've had more than one single mom tell me "single moms are actually better than women without other guys kids because..." it doesn't matter the reason but I've heard numerous justifications. Frankly it's laughable. There are no positives to dating a single mom. Everyone knows this. You just grind people's gears when you try and justify and get pushy and make up bullshit.

The response is then I get aggravated and maybe I'll say some shit like OP or just be abrasive.

Lots of single moms go around causing trouble. And thus lots of men are happy to spout off about single moms because we are actively getting single moms in our faces.

I mean just recently I went on a date with a girl who said she had no kids. After a few dates and sex, she tells me she has a kid. Strike 1 for me being pissed off about single mom baby drama shit. Then instead of accepting me saying I wouldn't get serious but I'd like to date her on a casual basis like fwb. She agrees and said she would be down with that. She then starts treating me like shit and being rude and eventually tells me it's because I don't date single moms so I deserve it. Whatever that means. So strike 2 regarding single moms being assholes. So now I pick up a girl from a bar one night and we fuck... turns out she's a single mom. Ok fine. What do I care? She asks if I'd date her and I said no. She posters me why why why is it because I'm a single mom... yeah sure at least in part because I don't date single moms. Why why why? We are actually better because we come with a family already, my kid is cute, I always have snacks... yeah yeah bullshit stuff basically. She gets all rude in my face telling me I'm not man enough for her child. Wtf. So strike 3 single moms...

Mind you this all happened in the past year. And I've come across this stuff numerous times over the years. So when it happens I have a bad taste in my mouth and I don't mind spouting off about shitty ass single moms and there bullshit.

Imo if a single mom comes at me with anything other than "I know this is alot to put on you, please give me a chance" I mean I can respect that... but all the proud single mom shit... I mean a dude nut in you and didn't want you... what's to be proud of. Come on.

shadowrangerfs · 2024-07-11T14:08:09+00:00

Men don't hate single moms. They hate the women who trash them for not wanting to date single moms. Since women wouldn't just accept them having that preference the topic just got more and more heated until we got where we are now.

That's why you don't see the same level of discourse around women who don't want to date single fathers. Because when women say, "I don't date men with kids", men don't criticize them for it.

HippyWitchyVibes · 2024-07-11T12:53:11+00:00

I was a single mom. My daughter's father died when she was 6.

My experience is that, whilst I definitely found fewer men were interested in dating me, there were also men who did not have an issue with it.

My now-husband was childfree when we met but he was happy to be a step-dad, even though he didn't want biological kids of his own. 20 years later and he's been the best damn step-dad in the world and my (our) daughter adores him.

No_Matter_8648 · 2024-07-11T13:37:46+00:00

Such a troll post! Call it whatever you want. She gave up her body to another guy & now her best years are behind her. We are not her fucking clean up crew. Let that guy take care of her or some gump loser.

Men want their own families, not some hand me down saved video game file half way played already.

Like seriously fuck off with this type of virtue signalling. It’s like you asked “why don’t men want some fat, old, used up chick” !! 🤦‍♂️

We really don’t give a shit if you find it offensive or not it’s just selfish to ask guys to sign up for that. Purple pill my ass!

Junior_Ad_3086 · 2024-07-11T13:26:47+00:00

i think some people take it too far but at least women know what they're getting into if they divorce their baby daddy. you'll find outrageous opinions on anything if you scroll tiktok long enough.

to be honest i feel like the people crying into their camera and uploading it on the internet kind of deserve some mockery and i agree that most men who marry single moms are beta. it is what it is but i wouldn't use the word tainted for example. they're people with various different reasons for being in the position they're in, some of which i have compassion for. just not the ones crying into their phone for tiktok validation, it's kinda safe to assume they don't really make good decisions in general.

lovestocomment · 2024-07-11T17:22:11+00:00

Man there is a litany of reasons. However, I think it's a situation where these women are making bad mating decisions, with little or no real consequences on mass. And when you look at the statistics of children raised in single mother households over that past couple decades and how these same raised in those households behavior it's sending society in a downward spiral. As a result, the quality of men and women in the dating market drops by a ton. The other aspect is that men who work hard who are average men aren't getting women who are in good stable situations, mentally, physically, intellectually and romantically. And women having unrealistic expectations and their value on the dating market is over blown.

The fathers in homes in committed relationships are extremely important to the stability of our society. And the more we erode that part of our society away. The more the quality of partners will drop. And eventually the quality of life will drop.

All of that said, it doesn't mean single mothers are bad people. I've dated single mothers in the past, and a lot of them are good parents. So I'm not going tell guys not not date single mothers. However, don't date baby mommas. However, they have to be careful and make sure it's stable situation.

babazuki · 2024-07-11T13:51:17+00:00

That's counter culture. That's what counter culture looks like.

None of these guys could make it on a morning tv talk show saying things like this, they would be censored and vilified themselves. The popular narrative in media is that single moms should be celebrated and they are valuable and beautiful.

These guys create their own platform to say these things and point out all the negatives to counter the popular narrative.

FiliusHades · 2024-07-11T14:13:54+00:00

because they're the lowest quality and the most delulu women with the highest standard demands on the market, and they also have kids that they demand you pay for

Realistic-Custard853 · 2024-07-11T15:06:27+00:00

Currently dating a single mother.. there are many drawbacks to the situation. The ex baby daddy is forever a part of the equation. The child is sweet but a constant reminder of her and her previous relationship. I bond with the child but there is always a separation by not being blood related. I do often come second to the child. My partners body is irreversibly changed from another man getting her pregnant.. All that said my partner is one of the most impressive and motivating people i have met and that is wildly more important than a past no one can change.

biscuitcatapult · 2024-07-11T12:25:39+00:00

We don’t hate them. They just aren’t desirable for most men who have options, so they aren’t on our radar - kind of like how women view unattractive men.

These women have gotten so used to pretty privilege in the past, that the idea that a man doesn’t find them dateable is unfathomable. And of course they can’t be the issue, they’ve always been dateable, so it’s clearly the men’s fault.

Cut to them venting on social media about how hard it is to find a good guy that will step up and be a “real man” and accept her and her kids.

Edit: why is it that BP can use TikTok and YouTube for examples, but when anyone else does it, it “doesn’t count?”

MisterFunnyShoes · 2024-07-11T12:14:43+00:00

Single moms are the female equivalent of male losers. Nobody cares that much, but they are viewed as an acceptable outlet for scorn.

SwoleAustralian · 2024-07-11T12:11:30+00:00

I think seething hatred is overdramatic but they're just not a good bet to date.

No man should be subjected to having to raise another man's kids, it's not noble, it's pathetic.

Proper_Frosting_6693 · 2024-07-11T12:29:54+00:00

It’s because single moms are looking for an ATM 🏧 mostly!

It’s because guys that have dated single moms have got burnt badly (cheated on, 7th on the priority list etc, monkey branched).

These single mothers generally displayed poor judgement in the past (got knocked up by Chad) and no man wants to be a cuck! There’s zero benefit in it for him! She can break up his relationship with the kid(s) at any time and he has no right to ever see them again.

It’s a very poor choice for a single guy, especially a guy that wants a family and has no kids.

However, for a divorced guy with kids, it mightn’t be a terrible option if both have shared custody of their kids. That way they can spend their free time together without the kids and he’s not expected to raise her children.

OkProfessional9405 · 2024-07-11T13:35:00+00:00

Because guys look out for each other. You want to let the younger guys know that it's a bad deal.

Purple_Kangaroo8549 · 2024-07-11T14:35:07+00:00

Because women make retarded choices and then bitch about the outcome of them.

BackToTheMoon_ · 2024-07-11T14:41:17+00:00

Not all single moms should be shamed but the ones who have kids by bums should not be shown sympathy and they should he shamed

PainzAKiller · 2024-07-11T14:49:58+00:00

It's not hate, it's disdain.

SwimmingTheme3736 · 2024-07-11T16:01:49+00:00

I dont think normal men do.

You can find craziest on the internet on any topic. It’s not far to say most men feel like that.

A blended family is not for everyone. I say this as someone who is in one. It’s fine to not want to date someone who has children.?

purplish_possum · 2024-07-11T13:25:15+00:00

Being a single mom is evidence of the selfishness, lack of foresight, and lack of loyalty so often present in single mothers. The ones who ditched decent guys for trivial reasons or in failed attempts to upgrade put their immediate gratification ahead of the needs and best interest of their children. Actions have consequences. A person who has been selfish and disloyal in the past isn't a good bet.

Embarrassed-Tune9038 · 2024-07-11T14:48:39+00:00

Because single mothers are low value women. They are the equivalent of the broke ass man with next to nothing to offer men.

Would you date the following man: has kids with one or two other women, menial low-paying job, has very little time for you, is constantly stressed.

Single mothers are single for a reason. They drove their man away.

KGmagic52 · 2024-07-11T11:57:25+00:00

It's to counter all the feminist propaganda that tells men to "do the right thing" (for her). That being a step dad is the bare minimum etc. To warn men that taking that deal will get you more responsibility with less authority. To show men that women don't really appreciate the sacrifices a man makes to take on another man's child. Maybe they're trying to bring back the days when single motherhood was seen as something was missing instead of crowning single moms like they are wonder woman.

John_Oakman · 2024-07-11T12:46:01+00:00

In the modern society's crusade against the evil of ulterior motives, they have accidently also dismantled the social compact of the olden times. This means that one of the fundaments aspects of this social legitimacy, being one of the marginalized groups in need of aid, no longer as that social legitimacy to bank on, and thus becoming exposed to the full brunt of people who are unchecked by any of their supposed ulterior motives.

Of course the question that should be asked now is how to motivate law & social norm abiding males to counter these hateful men without giving anything that would even remotely approaching catering to ulterior motives?

TapZealousideal5974 · 2024-07-11T14:47:06+00:00

Pretty sure women are equally nonplussed by single dads, sadly (romcoms are not real).

Not that that excuses guys being cruel to them for no good reason.

To be honest, there's a general and unpleasant tendency among some of both sexes to actively go out of their way to despise people they don't want to have sex with, as if somehow holding back would necessarily cause them to run an at least slightly higher risk of mating with them. The more obvious example of this is how many men seem to somehow fear fat girls are going to suddenly sit on them in a moment of weakness, get get pregnant and trap them in a relationship; many women seem to think weedy nerds are going to rape them or whatever and so you have to be mean from the get-go to make sure this doesn't happen.

TheSloppiestTaco · 2024-07-11T16:33:59+00:00

No hatred, but a kid is a massive boat anchor around the neck of any new relationship. Your kid may be the best thing that ever happened to you. But not to a third party.

mayhemvvithmercy · 2024-07-11T16:41:15+00:00

the seething hatred is unnecessary but imo it’s perfectly reasonable not to want to date a single parent

I wouldn’t touch a single dad with a ten foot pole, and if I’m being honest in a way yeah I consider them “used goods”. I don’t even want to have my own children, let alone deal with someone else’s.

I think single parents are probably best off pursuing other single parents, but I’m sure there are many childless people who are open to dating them.

Toxic_LigmaMale · 2024-07-11T17:22:41+00:00

Shame is just the natural reaction to discourage bad behavior in the future. If not for you, then those around you. You can argue the effectiveness. But not the fact that it’s the reaction.

Substantial_Video560 · 2024-07-11T17:49:31+00:00

I don't have a hatred for them I just don't think there a good match for a single guy. I speak from experience. Luckily my brain came back online before anything got too serious! Nowadays I feel indifferent about them.

briefbrisket · 2024-07-11T18:18:25+00:00

I don’t think the majority of men hate them. They just wouldn’t consider seriously dating one. Speaking for just myself I don’t want to raise someone else’s kids, nor would I want to deal with any of the baby daddy drama while there are still plenty of single childless women I could date.

I think the disconnect is that women don’t realize this is a preference a lot, or possible the majority of men have.

VWGUYWV · 2024-07-11T19:44:32+00:00

I don’t hate single moms

I just find their desire to lock down a guy to help with their bad decisions or bad luck to be off putting

I’ll never lower my quality of life for a dead beat dad’s kid

LoopyPro · 2024-07-11T13:15:56+00:00

It's not hate, but rather criticism and pushback towards people who make terrible life choices. Single moms are often praised and portrayed as innocent victims who can't be responsible for bad decisions, while fathers get all the blame. In reality, both parents are to blame for a broken home. Even if the father is a deadbeat, the mother is the one who chose him as the father of her kids.

CraftyCooler · 2024-07-11T12:20:35+00:00

I guess it is sort of schadenfreude, these girls didn't wanted them so they were punished for chasing Chad. But in reality single moms are not always hotties and usually they are not chasing Chad - quite often it is just an effect of poor decisions made too early in life.

Delifier · 2024-07-11T12:30:29+00:00

I dont see what you call a seething hatred in any of these links. But i have seen espeically excerpt of that music video used around the topic of single moms who act entitled to mens attention and also weaponizing themselves having kids in hope to tie donwn a man. There are some that are willing to get pregnant in hope to tie down a man, to pay for all their needs mostly so they can be a SAHM, preferrably, when the standard should be the other way around. Make sure the relationship is stable before having kids.

kochIndustriesRussia · 2024-07-11T12:53:12+00:00

It's trying to help younger, possibly uninformed men from letting their feelings overrule their intellect.

I have sons and I tell them the same things.

My dad told me.

And...it often doesn't work anyways cuz single moms usually freaks and will make you a plate of food to keep you.

Dry_Nectarine5457 · 2024-07-11T16:23:00+00:00

Oftentimes it’s because the woman got knocked up by some complete loser & bum who treats them like garbage. And then they’re shocked that the bum abuses them and doesn’t step up to the plate when it comes to raising the kid. That single mom is a sucker. And her making dumb decisions like getting with the loser in the first place says a lot about her character. And then she wants to find a nice guy to take his place because she’s done with “bad boys” This genuinely tends to be the case. An exception however would be if the father died or something. In a case like that, it’s kind of beyond her control and I would feel bad for her.

IAmTheIron-Manlet · 2024-07-11T12:29:41+00:00

I think single moms are hot tbh. Couldn't do the whole "My wife's son" thing though

Mr_Vaynewoode · 2024-07-11T13:07:33+00:00

I don't have a "seething hatred," but I do see it as a red flag that there is likely an underlying accountability problem. (98%.00) I also do not trust their ability to pair bond.

For the "unhappy" no fault divorcers where the father was faithful, I see them as engaging in child abuse. It destroys young men and women. I have seen it first hand.

Interpersonally, I have had single mothers that I care about, but I regard them in the same way I see drug addicts. You try to insulate yourself from the fallout of their unsustainable behavior.

I don't like the Alimony or Child Support System because it is designed to coerce men into paying the women who are at fault for destroying their familues.

thedarkracer · 2024-07-11T11:55:57+00:00

Hard truth.

Pissed at moms for not choosing them in the first place and being happy at their misery.
Jealousy at them trying to date as they will still get more matches than the haters.
Attributing to that their vagina is not fuckable after birth aka loosened up or loss of their sexy body shape, in short hating on ugly people nothing new.

They haven't experienced love in their life so they spend their free time on hatred.

KikiYuyu · 2024-07-11T16:14:45+00:00

Because men want to think the only reason a mom is single is because she's a promiscuous idiot, or she picked the wrong man. Never mind that sometimes you can pick a man who hides his bad side, or changes over time, or DIES.

Bro_with_passport · 2024-07-11T12:54:26+00:00

I mean it’s valid to dislike that which creates problems in society. I dislike drug related deaths, so I dislike drug dealers. I also dislike violent crime, so it’s logical to also dislike those are who single moms (by choice, not widows and the like); fatherless boys tend to be much more likely to commit violent crimes (especially sexual assault) after all.

In a day to day sense though, it’s not as though I’m going around seething about their existence at the local grocery store. I pay about as much mind as I would someone peddling drugs on a street corner in a bad neighborhood. It’s more of a “don’t make eye contact and just drive a little faster” kind of deal.

harmonica2 · 2024-07-11T12:37:02+00:00

I know a lot of guys who are dating or married to moms, so it seems that there are plenty of these guys around for women and most single moms probably don't have to worry therefore?

volleyballbeach · 2024-07-11T13:14:53+00:00

I wouldn’t call it “so many guys”. Rather the internet shows the loud/extreme/controversial. I’ve never heard a guy express hate towards single moms IRL.

MrSaturn33 · 2024-07-11T14:16:16+00:00

Because they don't care about their children. And society sanctions and legitimizes neglectful, stupid parents in a way and to an extent it never has before in history.

JadeGrapes · 2024-07-11T14:59:51+00:00

I do think media is to blame on this one.

My Elderly Dad would periodically get wound up by the news... and repeat talking points about how man Black homes don't have fathers... and how damaging that is... blah blah blah.

So I challenge him on it;

"I'm divorced, because my ex husband was physically violent. I haven't remarried, is MY son hurting for a lack of father in the home, or was his father hurting both of us?"

"World War II made a lot of Widows, it was so common that plenty of Brides had to be "given away" by their Mother... there just weren't Dads around... they died in the War. Are you saying World War II widows were harming America through bad parenting... due to a lack of Father in the home?"

"OR, is it possible that this talking point is a thinly veiled attack on women, blaming us for society's problems as though women's wanton sexuality is the problem... When the reality is sometimes people get single through no fault of their own, and the problems of systemic poverty are more likely due to poor economic planning or intentional oppression?"

To his credit, he back peddled when he realized his own daughter and war widows should be lumped in with the hussies.

NewOCLibraryReddit · 2024-07-11T17:21:21+00:00

Not sure what OP is talking about. She pointed out men explaining why single moms aren't sought after once they become a single mom. The same way some women go on and on about why they don't date broke men, married men, men with a lot of bodies, men with no bodies, pro athletes, etc.

antariusz · 2024-07-11T19:44:20+00:00

Simple: no woman wants to raise another woman’s kids, so why should I as a man?

If you want to date single mothers so badly, go date one yourself.

Crimson-Pilled · 2024-07-11T15:15:16+00:00

Single moms are terrible people and unintentional child abusers. Single fathers are also bad, but single moms act and vote in ways that allow both of them to continue destroying the family unit. They're not hated enough.

Substantial_Wasabi · 2024-07-11T15:45:01+00:00

Because these are the women in these men’s leagues, the only ones they get matched with on OLDs and this makes the men feel slighted

Just_Natural_9027 · 2024-07-11T12:16:13+00:00

Because these women still do better in the dating market than them. It’s why these guys hate overweight women as-well.

You know who doesn’t really care about either? Guys in successful relationships or those who do well in the dating market.

Feisty_Response_9401 · 2024-07-11T15:11:34+00:00

I can think of a few reasons why do so many men hate single moms:

Many single moms are not just looking for a partner, but also for a father for their kids. This is terrible as those kids have their own father and this is unfair to men they date.
Many single moms never admit they did a mistake with having a kid with terrible or irresponsible men. They rather blame men as a whole than take at least half of the responsibility.
Single moms usually date for what men can give rather than love or care.
The man is never a priority if she has small kids to take care of, which is good for the kids but bad for relationships.
Many single moms say, with a straight face, that they would never date single dads.
Single moms may often still fuck or go back with the father of their kids.
If she left the father of their kids, it is likely she will leave you too.

Time_Faithlessness27 · 2024-07-11T15:23:05+00:00

Im a single mom. Men are in line to date me. This sub is such a toxic manosphere and misogynistic hub. It’s absolutely laughable how disconnected from reality and humanity ya’ll are.

TeensyTrouble · 2024-07-11T12:29:17+00:00

Because they’re upset that when they finally get the attention they worked so hard to get it’s from the wrong people

Sharp_Engineering379 · 2024-07-11T13:03:04+00:00

I’ll say it. Men who have no other options are mad that they have to share attention with a child or two. They want the same access to attractive, child free women that more appealing men had.

IOW: second round draft picks are mad they are stuck with Chad’s leftovers and/or are spoiled momma’s boys who feel they deserve 100% of a woman’s energy and attention.

Like all of terper insults, it’s revenge porn. They need to call the grapes sour since they couldn’t reach them before they reproduced with Chad.

Economy-Shake-1448 · 2024-07-11T13:18:05+00:00

A normal man will politely turn down a single mom. Not wanting a single mom is valid: it involves kids. But these guys aren’t there to simply politely turn down a single mom. No. They are on a mission to get revenge, hurt, and humiliate.

Reasons below:

1) they are mad that the single mom didn’t “choose” a “nice guy” like them, so to demonstrate how nice they are and how great of a guy she overlooked, they call her names and mock any of the men they date. Because they are such good people and she totally missed out on w man of upstanding character and now they have to show her what she missed out on.

2) they don’t get many matches on tinder, and out of the two or three matches they get, all or a few are single moms. Instead of switching apps, trying to meet women IRL, or taking a break from online dating then coming back, they get really angry. They are so angry that this is all they match with that they are ready to bully and hurt to take out their frustrations.

3) continuing from point 2, if a single mom tries to date them, they get upset because they feel that she is using them for resources and to be a stepfather.

4) building from point 1, they may feel overlooked, ignored, unvalued, and rejected by women. Insulting single moms is the perfect opportunity to hurt back and get revenge on their perceived rejections and slights.

r2k398 · 2024-07-11T13:27:52+00:00

I’d say it’s mostly for the clicks.

Graaarg999 · 2024-07-11T13:31:53+00:00

It's really cruel, it's kicking the most vulnerable.

Rezboy209 · 2024-07-11T14:53:43+00:00

Because these type of men blame the women for being single mothers rather than blaming the dead beat dads.

Intrepid-Rip-2280 · 2024-07-11T16:31:24+00:00

I bet half of them have never dated anyone besides probably Eva AI sexting bots, they sound immature and childish

EmergencyLab10 · 2024-07-11T21:52:23+00:00

The abundance of single mothers is a direct reflection on the number of absent fathers. And we all know how men feel about accountability.

Entire-Assistance771 · 2024-08-13T00:36:41+00:00

I believe men think that a single mom is "damaged goods"!! When the truth is a single mom is a bad chick. A single mom is strong which makes some men feel weak. Some look at a single mom and think she's looking for a meal ticket. All she is looking for is a best friend to be there for her. Just because she has kids does not make you the daddy unless you choose to be.

Entire-Assistance771 · 2024-08-13T00:37:04+00:00

A REAL MAN WOULDNT CARE!!

EyeAskQuestions · 2024-09-28T23:50:32+00:00

Because they suck. It's that simple. I have literally never had a decent relationship with a woman who has a whole ass FAMILY by 24. Lol.

No husband but 2 or 3 or 4 kids or worse a toddler AND NO MAN in sight.

Clown shoes energy. Every. Single. Time.

Timely_Lifeguard1758 · 2024-10-06T23:40:01+00:00

For me it's because I'm looking for a single girl to have kids with, and not her already have kids. An example would be me on online dating, see a girl that is 100% my type, and before even scrolling down to see if "Has kids/ doesn't have kids" I can almost always bet she has kids. It's annoying as fuck and no matter how pretty or how much of my type she is, it's an automatic NO if she has kids and I keep moving along.

MongoBobalossus · 2024-07-11T11:54:15+00:00

Because some dudes have a hang up over a woman seeing another penis that isn’t theirs.

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tiddermacss · 2024-07-11T15:30:20+00:00

no with the last one.. but the other three shaming single moms.. there’s no need to to that.. i mean make a video song? shameless

Whiskeymyers75 · 2024-07-11T16:17:15+00:00

I don’t but I do find many to be very hypocritical considering they’ll take the deadbeat who has money and possessions because he doesn’t support his kids over the struggling father who takes care of his. And a lot of times he becomes deadbeat baby daddy number 2 or even 3.

thumpsky · 2024-07-11T16:31:03+00:00

It’s because these women chose Chad/Tyrone and now want a beta to “step up” who btw they will never respect anyway.

It’s a lose-lose proposition

OnePotatoeChip · 2024-07-11T17:31:12+00:00

I don't think it's hatred. It's more along the lines of warriness. Because it can be sort of a raw deal for the dude. First off, a woman's child is always her first priority. This isn't a bad thing by any means, but it does mean that dates have to be scheduled around them and it can be a hassle. Secondly, if the woman lacks character, she might try to pass on some responsibility of her kid(s) onto her date. Whether that be buying them food or anything else. Sounds like a boogeyman, but it has happened.

Example; there was a video that went around a few years ago where a man wanted to buy his child some food, and brought it to the home of this kid's mother (who he was no longer involved with). She went on about how he should've provided food for all of her children, despite only one having been fathered by him, as it wasn't fair to his siblings.

Bait video or not, it started some discussion about how kids 'go through the break up as well'. It was received about as well as you'd expect.

And third, if the woman's ex is still in the picture, this can lead to a lot of distrust and a possible point of anxiety for a dude.

Sure-Vermicelli4369 · 2024-07-11T17:40:52+00:00

Many single mothers do not seek the same qualities in men as they did when they are childless - often looking for someone who can ease her burden of motherhood without much thought put into what she can do for him.

Swimming_Policy3629 · 2024-07-11T18:47:53+00:00

It's a good thing to me as an antinatalist, because it means women will stop having kids if men refuse to take care of them and reject women that have already had them. I especially love how moms are desexualized. Like they are spoken about like they shouldn't have sex because they should pay more attention to their kids instead. Plus they have to find babysitters in order to have fun too. Which I love because I don't have that. I think I love that so much because of how much I've been slut shamed in life. I've been told by most men they want a woman who will raise their kids, only to abandon the women who do that for a woman like me. Who knew all I had to do was wait to get the "good" innocent non slut women's leftovers

hylander4 · 2024-07-11T18:54:25+00:00

I have no idea. I’ve never encountered this perspective in real life. The only thing I can think of for myself is that dating a woman with a kid might bring extra responsibilities and obstacles to overcome that I might not have the energy for. From a red pill perspective, I might be worried that a single mom is trying to use me as a resource rather than being interested in me as a person.

Hard_Corsair · 2024-07-11T22:01:26+00:00

People generally hate it when other people hold on to high standards, especially when it feels hypocritical (e.g. fat man/woman demanding a thin partner, promiscuous man/woman demanding a virgin partner).

Rationally, single moms should be generally less desirable than women with similar qualities but no kids. Because of that, men would figure that they would hold lesser standards to compensate, and therefore be easier to score with. So, single moms attract a disproportionate amount of low-value men, so they correct for this by having higher standards than normal women to more aggressively filter bad matches. People see these higher standards and vocally disapprove.

Cablepussy · 2024-07-11T23:44:55+00:00

This article does a pretty good job touching up on the background noise of why people detest single mothers outside the regular have kids undatable situation.

https://thelifeofasinglemom.com/single-mom-statistics-the-truth-about-single-moms/

Another one for a slightly different outlook(?):

https://www.legalmomentum.org/women-and-poverty-america#:~:text=70%25%20of%20the%20Nation’s%20Poor,raise%20their%20families%20in%20poverty.

Basically single moms are statistically worse than single dads when it comes to raising children to be productive members of society - this in combination with women receiving more welfare while paying less taxes and being the party that bares the most responsibility of childbirth just breeds resentment in men.

BigZaddyZ3 · 2024-07-11T12:19:49+00:00

The worst thing that will ever happen to most average/less attractive men is the discovery of the whole “Alpha male vs. Beta male” idea. Most unattractive men are much closer to what the redpill describes as a “beta male” in terms of their attractiveness, but this realization (of their supposed inferiority) damn-near traumatizes them to their core lol. At that point they will develop a crippling insecurity about ever being perceived as “beta” in any situation. And to Redpillers, dealing with single-moms is one of the most “beta male” things a man can do. So they lash out against the idea because to them, if they date a single mom, it’s merely confirmation of what they always feared deep down. That they are one of the “beta” men.

Keep in mind, I do think there are some challenges and difficulties that make dating a single mom less attractive than dating a woman without kids. It’s not weird to prefer a childless woman. But those guys that have some deep hatred or obsession with single-moms usually do have the type of complex/insecurities that I described above.

Also keep in mind that for some men, it’s kind of a “picked last in gym class” type of thing. They resent women for not picking them early in life. And so now it’s kind of a “revenge of the nerds” type of thing going on when they constantly talk shit about single-moms.

KayRay1994 · 2024-07-11T14:01:20+00:00

Usually for clicks, let’s not forget the audiences these creators have. The men these creators listen to want their revenge porn, “ha! chad had a kid with her and now she’s all used up and useless!” is often the though process. I also think there is a level of ownership too, ie. “now that you’re tainted you’ve ruined yourself for me and all the good men!”

Of course, there is nothing wrong with not wanting to date a single mom. I wouldn’t date a single mom unless i’m far older (ie. 45+) and single, but I also think not wanting to date one means you should actively hate them.

Gilmoregirlin · 2024-07-11T14:25:23+00:00

I think because they don’t think women should leave their spouses if they have kids and presume women leave too easily and that the men they are with did zero to cause the issues in the marriage which is rarely the case. I think they are jealous that single Mom’s have a much easier time dating and getting sex than most men here do. As far as raising another man’s kids I can only see that as toxic masculinity because I don’t understand why that’s an issue. There are many ways to be a Father, would men not wanting to raise another man’s kid be opposed to adoption too? That’s another man’s kid. Women raise other women’s kids all the time it’s called co parenting. I think it’s perfectly fine not to date someone with kids, but to seethe with hatred that I don’t understand.

Gold_Supermarket1956 · 2024-07-11T15:16:44+00:00

Single moms have no long-term value while still expecting a man to step in and raise their kid, and often times, said man can't discipline or punish said child, and is usually not in her top 3 important things... while most men have their wife or gf in their top 3.... not to mention single parenthood usually indicates your inability to be feminine in said relationship

fiftypoundpuppy · 2024-07-11T19:40:45+00:00

Someone else answered that they're an acceptable outlet for scorn, which I agree with. Interestingly enough right behind their seething hatred for single moms is their hatred for childfree women, who are almost equally responsible for all the ills of society. To these men, the only acceptable life path for women is to marry a boring unattractive dude at 18; fuck him like he's an an attractive exciting dude; have a shitton of children; make sure to have no career goals or professional ambition; be thin, smiley, submissive and agreeable 24/7; and spend our entire lives in perpetual servitude of husband and children. Anyone who diverges from this is a threat and thus they are lashing out accordingly.

Women exist as vehicles to serve the desires of men and society, and anything that goes against that is bad.

Honestly it's just more ammo to convince women to not have kids at all 🤷🏿 It's already a shit deal, and if it doesn't go perfectly according to plan you'll be blamed for all the ills of society. Why the fuck would anyone sign up for that?

FemaleWipingStrategy · 2024-07-11T14:16:04+00:00

The race element is being ignored... of course, men of all races avoid dating single moms, but the most vocal podcasters (including the ones you linked) are black men who dislike black women.

Other races of women simply ignore single moms, black men have a seething hatred and obsession.

A lot of black men have vitriol for their own mothers. Instead of blaming the father's absence, they blame the parent who was present.

Obligatory "I'm black myself"

SaBahRub · 2024-07-11T14:45:16+00:00

Because a perfectly good object has been ruined by other dicks and kids

mrcs84usn · 2024-07-11T15:35:16+00:00

OP: Posts a bunch of videos explaining why men shouldn't date single moms.

Also OP: "what's wrong with dating single moms?"

Part of this is a rallying cry to get men to be better. It's just like how there are men that try to get other men to stop simping. Women are getting rich off of Onlyfans because men are paying for their content. If men could detach their dicks from their wallets, sex work could dry up overnight.

queen-of-dirt · 2024-07-11T15:35:55+00:00

Because the red pill is a movement born out of scorn and hatred derives enjoyment out of tearing down women who are down on there luck. Hope this helps :)

TruNorth556 · 2024-07-11T16:34:58+00:00

I don’t hate single mothers. But it is a social problem. They typically can’t support their kids and the state needs to step in and the taxpayer ends up footing the bill for their poor life choices.

On top of that kids raised by single mothers have far greater likelihood of bad social outcomes like spending time in prison.

Women usually end up single mothers because the men they find sexy and exciting are actually losers. Those men have their share of blame. But honestly they are a small portion of the population and women are getting pregnant by them when they have other choices.

abnabatchan · 2024-07-11T18:29:52+00:00

bitterness and jealousy? because a 36 year old single mom with two kids can find a date faster and more easily than 95% of those guys

despisedlove2 · 2024-07-11T20:43:03+00:00

Most men have a seething hatred for entitled single moms who think that men owe them a relationship. Unless something truly unfortunate was involved, most such women are the cause of their own sorry state. Like most women, they live in a fantasy that minimizes their own responsibility for the situation they find themselves in.

raisedonthemoon · 2024-07-11T12:25:12+00:00

I think to a lot of those guys it's "proof" that women's standards are nonsensical (i.e. exclude them) because the relationships didn't go the way the single mom wanted. They think that if those women just settled for an uglier, more boring man instead of going for "chad" that they wouldn't have ended up single moms, even though I don't think there's any statistics that back up the idea that most single moms were impregnated by "chads". Some of them also seem mad because some of those women are still attractive to them even though that attraction goes against their own philosophy.

alwaysright12 · 2024-07-11T12:50:10+00:00

Because women not being dependent on men pisses them off

alebruto · 2024-07-11T12:49:55+00:00

Because they feel upset and insulted. They want a partner but they don't get anyone's attention to a certain extent, so when they do get some attention, they are not the first choice and it is not genuine love It's as if there were several people at a party you weren't invited to, you wanted to enter and they didn't let you. But the next day, after the party ends, they ask you to clean up the mess alone and therefore feel like you have to consider yourself lucky for that.

claratheresa · 2024-07-11T13:18:21+00:00

Alot of men are angry that men they think are worse than them get laid by some woman they want and become permanently unhinged because of ego.

bluepvtstorm · 2024-07-11T13:05:21+00:00

Most of them hate their mom for being a single mom and have daddy issues.

Novel-Tip-7570 · 2024-07-11T11:53:37+00:00

Men have a savior mentality so they're secretly attracted to single moms. Therefore they need to talk shit and constantly demonize single moms in order to condition themselves to not date them. Kinda like how the ones who talk the most shit about the gays often have some homo tendencies.

Title	Why do so many guys have a seething hatred for single moms?
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Date	July 11, 2024 11:42 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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