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The common man IS in a relationship and has regular sex and is happy with that. Amount of sex partners is mostly predicted by personality, not looks. The reason some men go unfucked is that women don't need to be married to them and even in the marriages, they cannot be forced to have sex. I regard that as a win. It's not hard to have a girlfriend and to have sex with her. It's not TVM who take those women from those men. It's those men not meeting the lowest bar of being a fucking net positive …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:58 AM
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Your comment is self participated self reported biased perception. It's pretty irrelavant to the discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:37 AM
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They are a thing but they were never a mainstream mass market thing. I don't know anyone who ever was on a speed dating event, but everyone was on an app.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:32 AM
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NOT. THE. SAME. GROUP. OF. PEOPLE. MEN. ARE. NOT. A. MONOLITH.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:30 AM
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There are also tons (what kind of measurement is that even?) of tall guys who don't get anything, for every one that has a hot girlfriend. <image> THere is a weak correlation between sexual partner count and body height in men. The correlation between having a girlfriend and body height is likely weak or non-existent as well. Hot women are most likely together with hot men. Getting a hot girlfriend when you are not hot is not to be expected. If you want to argue, that the bottom 1% in attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:17 PM
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The midget with the hot girlfriend also gets rejected by disabled women. You seem to think that when someone has an average desirability level that is above that of someone else, that the one below should have to accept them as a partner. People date on their desirability level, or within their league, but most people within their league still reject each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:30 PM
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If you are insecure, every woman is an alpha widow, because you think so lowly of yourself, that of course, at least one of her past partners or ONS must have been so much better than you. Also, every man she comes across on a daily basis is better than you, and it's only a question of time and loyalty, when she will leave you. That's why all the insecure guys here can't stop analyzing the probability of divorce or infidelity, because they are absolutely sure that if there exists even a slight c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:09 PM
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Its scientifically proven that men are most attracted to women in their early 20s (even younger than that if they had the option). So this makes it apparent that they're not going to be attracted to their partners as time goes on. That does not follow logically. Just because one age is the most attractive, doesn't mean other ages are not attractive. You are not looking at the relevant science to answer the question You would need to look at the science that investigates if men are attracted to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:15 PM
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post pardon https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/postpartum-depression/symptoms-causes/syc-20376617 Also, you are a black pilled man, yet you claim how kids are a major factor in desirability on the dating market. Shouldn't physical attractiveness be the main determining factor, and money, social status, mental health, kids etc be basically irrelevant? Where did your genetic determinism go to?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 10:12 AM
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We don't do anything about it. Men will always be overrepresented as physical violence perpetrators. That is biology and personality. We already do enough in general to bring down overall violence, but men will always be overrepresented. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:58 AM
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So if one is the provider, the other should also be the provider, or else there's something wrong? That doesn't work. Asymmetries are fine for a specific issue. If one provides, the other can take care of another issue to get to some kind of balance. You can visit her parents, but she can not do the same with your parents. That is not in conflict with having a good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 08:24 AM
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Because players play women. Which includes that those women don't realize the players are players. Mostly not even after they have been dumped. There is absolutely no need to let a woman know what just happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:14 PM
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Why don't incels not simply become criminals or drug dealers then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:47 PM
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Top 1% men is 1 in 100. I see them every week.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:16 PM
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You are responsible for your own sex life. If you want porn sex, pick a partner who agrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 02:55 PM
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Relationships are not tit for tat. It's no obvious that if we see her parents, that we also see my parents. She can very well hate my parents and not want to visit them. Stop assuming things and talk about it openly. Expecting that partners are mind readers is bad communication. A covert contract is one that the other doesn't know about and you just expect them to agree to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 02:43 PM
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You can love someone and be attracted to their person without finding them physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 10:07 AM
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But it's the other way round. Men and women also are equally lonely and sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:36 AM
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WHy have you been socially excluded and why didn't you address the reasons first, before taking other measurements?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:34 AM
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I think the point was, that women simultaneously want that their partners don't look at those women. We are just proud of their bodies and show them some self-love support, give them the "better treatment from society" that they so deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:28 AM
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You think a woman who dresses oversexualized has a problem with her boyfriend playing videogames with oversexualized female characters?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:16 AM
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I have read that many women don't find there husbands particulary attractive. Unattractive people marry unattractive people. They are unattractive, not blind. Of course they don't find their partners physically attractive. THe subjective part of physical attractiveness isn't large enough to completely negate that you objectively see the physically unattractive traits in your partner. That doesn't necessarily keep them from having lots of sex with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:15 AM
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You do realize that the amount of posts with a certain role/personality say nothing about what women are excited about, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:07 AM
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How is a hidden contract a good thing? Do you want to be in a contract that you don't know about but if you break the conditions that you know nothing about, you will face consequences that you don't want to face?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:53 AM
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Young men ARE dating young hot women. Fat women ARE dating men. Nobody fucking cares about potential in a 20yo. The relationships are not going to last anyway. Fat men are dating fat women, sometimes even slim men. We don't get to pick ideal partners, we get to pick on our mate value level.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:34 AM
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But I think a lot of people in general (men and women) need to realize that it’s not enough to be a nice guy, to succeed in a relationship, you need to be a good guy, and you need to approach things in good faith But the men who argue from a niceguy standpoint argue that it's actually not required at all to be nice or good to have casual sex and be in a relationship. To the contrary, being a niceguy seems to be a negative, even being a good guy does get you nowhere with women. It's because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:27 AM
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So you don't try to look your best for your partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:10 AM
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I had to break up with a guy because he purposely make me jealous by mentioning other women to me. Seems like you are just very insecure and fear that the moment competition comes up, you will lose the competition and be broken up with. You escape this fear by breaking up yourself or looking for men who are unable to compete for women and you are their only option. It's a toxic way to cope with your fears and insecurity. In your case, you might prefer to get a worse partner than you could get, f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:09 AM
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Because the ideal person is better than you. You ideal perso is not just as good as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:24 PM
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Yes, but if you pick someone, they are your ideal partner. An ideal partner is better than yourself. Which in turn means, that the picked partner would get a partner that is below him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:03 PM
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Expecting manipulation is still manipulation. You would need to find an actual argument for why women are not manipulated in their decision to date the man by the man paying. Not minding being dependent is still being manipulated by the person you depend on. You have no arguments. Not minding being manipulated is still being manipulated. because they have no intelligence to lead themselves https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_intelligence "There is no statistically significant differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:39 PM
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Under the following premises: -If you’re picked, it might take a long time or may not happen at all. But you have your sanity and mental health intact. How would that be a premise? This is only how it works for the picker-side, not the picked-side. The much more interesting aspect is: if you are picked by a picky partner, then the partner is probably below you in desirability, because you are that perfect for them. If you are settled for, your partner is more desirable than you. I'd rather be se…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:32 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 09:00 AM
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It's not rare to have a gf whne oyu miss these traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 02:52 PM
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I bet if you drag your chodey self to the bar and open 10 off girls your worldview will be crushed. Dude, you got laid twice with pua? I got laid twice YESTERDAY with blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 02:47 PM
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Of course they would not advocate for you to get hired, because the goal is to get less people like you hired. How can you hold that against them? It's the overarching goal for more equality/equity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:49 PM
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i don't think the men you talk about are in a position that anyone wants to make them care about women. We are fine with those men being pushed further away. They are already outside of society. Women don't need to be cared for. Women are doing fine now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:45 PM
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Don't engage in the same line of argument, and threaten him with "mentally ill women who will be the only ones being up for his shit". Let him be the bad boy, if he really thinks this will get him what he wants. Maybe it does. Maybe it doesn't. But he should put his money where his mouth is, instead of doing this fucking weak ass manipulation attempt towards "women on the internet". He doesn't even have the guts to tell it to women in his actual real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:34 PM
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Of course i believe his story. that doesn't change the fact that he is a crazy outlier and his experiences does not negate the general advice for people who are not extreme outliers. It's like a guy with one leg, claiming he isn't obese, because his BMI is 17.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:57 PM
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i am still rational and scientific where it applies. Looking for evidence for your results in your life history and comments IS rational and scientific. I am upper percentiles in intelligence. How is that inane crap? I saw your poll. What do you think does it say about your situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:53 PM
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The dude is a 30-something kissless virgin who gets called the cops on for saying "hi" to women. People in other subs, sharing his fate, tell him that he is the isssue and should go to therapy. Even in support groups, targeted at his issues, he is the one sticking out. Read his comments/profile. This dude is a far outlier and not a good measuring stick to see how "mentally ill" women are with thier actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:30 PM
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Your posting history
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:29 PM
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So in my estimation, this is the most effective means to keep a girl emotionally invested in you. Throw her a few breadcrumbs now and then, then treat her like a second option. Show her she is below you and she will come back. My only issue with the above is I hate to do it. It's not in my nature but it seems to be the best way of acting in the modern dating scene This is every other niceguy thread in essence. " I was told women want nice guys, but i don't get women, being a niceguy. i observe w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:26 PM
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My point is: you are the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:15 PM
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I know people who won the lottery, does that mean you can use playing the lottery as financial strategy? Nope. This is not the point. The point is: it is not a REQUIREMENT to get into a relationship to be this or that. You don't claim that you are unlucky, you claim that you can't get a gf because of XYZ
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:13 AM
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I know that book and the issues around it. That was not what i was thinking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:11 AM
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The DM is always right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:10 AM
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This is just a plain assertion. No, that's from the surveys of the PPD demographic. Just because someone doesn't know redpill, doesn't mean they are bluepilled. So everyone who is successful with women is red pilled, even if they deny it. Oh, that is just what an ideologist would say to keep his worldview intact. Bluepilled is everyone who doesn't fully agree with red pill views. It's all of the people who are NOT-red pilled. Being red pilled is "i believe in what the red pill states". Take Elon…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:08 AM
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Maybe try women in your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:15 PM
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If you read DrunkOnRamens profile, you will quickly see he is a crazy outlier. Probably a multi-dimensional issue. Not even sugarbabes want to have anything to do with him. You get the most extreme incels there are on this sub, who claim the generally good advice "is not working, because <my example>".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:13 PM
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How does anyone you approach know you are a mid 30s virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:58 PM
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"i'd rather be alone forever than date a single mom" -guys want to have a word with you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:54 PM
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The amount is irrelevant. Their existence prooves that non of the things they lack are required for a relationship. Now, go on how those relationships are unhapppy and you don't want something like that anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:53 PM
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And some guys here think that swiping daily on apps is "being active".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:52 PM
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What seems to be the real missing X factor between guys who can attract and guys who can’t? Talking to single women, who are in their league, who they already have an at least lukewarm connection to, and not being autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:36 PM
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WHy would you think that women are perfect arbiters or a partners quality as a long term partner? They are the same as men, and make bad choices. If you want to be the bad guy who gets picked by women who are used to abused and broken homes, go for it. It will be fun. Over the past year, one thing has become clear: the unfortunate truth is that women will always choose an attractive abuser over a respectful, unattractive man. Most men are not attractive abusers. Most men are in relationships wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:15 PM
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Of course i am an outlier. No question about it. I was countering your statements that you can't imagine this to exist. Definitely, mate guarding and mate retention strategies are there for a reason. But so is over-indulgence on sweet and fatty, high caloric food. So is cheating. So is mate poaching and polygyny. ALl of that evolved and there is a good reason it exists in us and other mammals. BUT, that doesn't mean it's optimal for the current situation/environment (see obesity). And it doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:35 AM
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What specifically is wrong about what i wrote and why? How does it not match red pill/Pua?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:10 AM
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If you think my counter argument was "deny", you are hopelessly lost in your ideology. Nothing i wrote was "deny". What is the actionable advice which works, that red pill has to offer? There clearly arer more red pilled virgins or men with less than 1 sex partner per year in this sub, than blue pilled virgins. So whatever red pill has to offer, is either not actionable, not working, or those incels and foreveralone niceguys just don't value having sex as much as they claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:09 AM
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Traditional men want traditional women, modern men want mondern women,, and everything in between also exists. There is no answer to your question, other than "it depends on the man". There are lots of traditional, non-promiscuous women for the traditional men. What the red pillers, of the type you described, are not happy about, is that they are not attractive partners for the women they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:56 AM
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Just because you cannot imagine that, doesn't mean it's not real or doesn't happen. I am okay with my gf going hiking with a male friend. She is okay i am making out with a female friend. I am not into being a cuckold. Does nothing for me. I am in an open relationship. the fact that my gf is having sex with other men is not causing anger, stress, disgust. I can emotionally regulate my thoughts and feelings regarding jealousy and insecurity pretty quickly. It doesn't grow to any noteworthy size t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:51 PM
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That's my point. Woman X is obviously wrong, yet women in general defend this type of behavior. How is woman X clearly wrong? Do you have a line of argument here or is this just a "i say so" type of discussion? Woman X goes to the gym wearing clothes that violate modesty; Woman X turns on the camera in the gym while she works out, framing herself and the men in the gym; Woman X posts the video on the internet and calls the men she framed who looked at her perverts, creepy, etc. What violates mod…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:41 PM
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I AM a research scientist. My life IS studies. They ARE real and not bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 02:31 PM
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From the study: "If we assume normally distributed PA in population and an absence of the BTA effect, the PA self-assessments for a random general sample should cluster around a theoretical mean of 5.5. However, established mean rating score was 6.43 (SD = 1.70; 26.4% of 7’s, with 67.9% of 6+) for men and 7.18 (SD = 1.56; 31.8% of 8’s, with 84.1% of 6+) for women. Only 3.4% of women and 12.8% of men rated themselves as 4 or less. Both gender means were significantly higher (ps < .001) than a the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 12:10 PM
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I think it was just that women with children are unhappier. Relationships without children seemed to be fine. Do you have the study at hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:53 AM
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There is no thing that all men want. So the question can't be answered for all men. You can ask: what do men want on average, or what do most men want, etc. You can specify regardin what aspect of life: what do men want in love/relationships/family, work/career, personal growth/self actualization, leasure time/hobbies, friendships etc. Why should women care? Because helping men get what they want is a mating advantage for women. If a woman wants to get the highest mate value man possible, she be…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:51 AM
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You are unchallenged because you require better arguments against your position that oyu require FOR your position. That is the problem here. You believe without evidence. But only the things you want to believe. I doubt you would accept any evidence that contradicts what you want to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:34 AM
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I am a biologist. I have read the selfish gene several times. It's on the bookshelf 3 meters behind me right now. I am reading mating science as a hobby. Daily. Red pill is the idiot's version of mating science, mixed with quackery, grifting and plain ideology. It's the pattern very biased people with low sample size think they observe and cannot really test for validity. It's basically how people tried to understand the world before science. Praxeology: "Rather than relying on empirical observa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:58 AM
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When males say that single women are lonely and bitter they are doing projection of their situation being without female partner.[...] They admit this openly with "male loneliness" so why would women tolerate something where they don't come out as winners? Same simply just doesn't apply to women. Men and women feel equally lonely. Your story doesn't add up. <image> Women have nothing to gain by dating men, CMV They overwhelmingly WANT to date men because they do actually get something from it. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:36 AM
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What I see is that women only want marriage if there’s a financial incentive to it, even if they’re deeply in love with a man. Where do you see that? Marriage statistics and attitudes towards finances do not reflect that. <image> In my country You realize that if we leave the standard WEIRD-country context, you need to specify that and make an argument for a differnet cultural setting. What is your country and how does the data look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 05:06 PM
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And i told you how i perceive things. If you don't accept that as an argument to change your mind, you might want to improve the arguments on your side.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 05:05 PM
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The common modern dating strategy for women is love bombing the man she wants. Where did you get that from?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:16 AM
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1st: we need to keep science out of love. There is nothing mysterious and magical about love. It's all able to be understood scientifically. You may not like that, but that is the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:15 AM
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Change my mind. Dude, with ZERO evidence for your claims, i think it's sufficient to just say "no, nothing you wrote is true".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:11 AM
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Are..are.. you new to this sub and the topic? It has been very well established and supported by evidence and evolutionary theory. There is no debate to be had here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:47 AM
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So, what does it take to get a GF? Did you understand the rules of the game yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:14 AM
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That is not my experience with the parties i have been on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:23 AM
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And do you expect that just "being there" is enough to get some action? Or did you think i was implying that "just being at parties" is enough, as compared to just the first, necessary step?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:09 AM
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amazing how you failed to understand and address my comment. Are you sure you have a high IQ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:36 AM
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People don't want top make sex and relationships a social justice movement. The goal is individual freedom, not most equal distribution of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:01 PM
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How does selecting good genetics and resourcefulness and social status possibly lead to "driving the species into the ground"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:57 PM
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What is an average man to you? Only one who is spot on average on every trait? Those are VERY rare. Where is all that evidence from that you keep narrating. Your personal anecdotes?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:51 PM
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You mean there doesn't happen anything at the parties, or there doesn't happen anything for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:45 PM
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We all know the OP and his struggle. He posts basically every day with a similar angle on the topic. He has no idea about dating or mating interactions and can only view the topic from his very biased and narrow personal point as an autistic incel who is angry about how mating goes for him. There is nothing to gain from his rants.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:42 PM
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where do you see evidence, that average men have to pick women twice their weight for romantic relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:39 PM
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Where do you see the evidence, that modern sexuality is destroyed or is getting destroyed? Also, you should watch more porn. You have a very limited view on what people see in porn and a very outdated view of what watching something does to what you will do. We had the ego shooters lead to school shootings debate years ago and it turned out not to be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:27 PM
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YOur dating advice comes from a place of ignorant personal struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 11:28 AM
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A lot of PUA/Redpill concepts are simply how codified tenets of how men who are successful with women behave. A lot of it is the unpleasant truth. An unpleasant truth for red pillers is, that 70% of men are in relationships currently and red pill claims only 5, 10 or 20% of men (consensus my ass) are getting female attention. An unpleasant truth for red pillers is, that they base their whole "knowledge" on a few statements of men who have reason to lie for status within their online community an…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 10:55 AM
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...also many high IQ people tend to have personality disorders such as autism Statements like these are worthless. Autism is not a personality disorder, and "many people tend" is not making any sense. Either "high iq people tend to have autism (correlation)", or "many high iq people have autism (percentage or absolute number?)" where you also need to define what "many" is, because it could be 30% or 50000. What do you want to say and what are your sources? Because your on a completely different …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 10:37 AM
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Make all men gay
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 10:21 AM
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The reasoning is backwards: there are less than 50% women in the top positions, and our ideology tells us, this can only be the reason because men are keeping women from being there: glass ceiling. Any other explanation, other than the opppressor-oppressed dynamic and unthinkable. Look at the gender equality paradox in sociology. The ideologist don't have an answer and rather than dropping their ideology, they make up absurd nonsense for why women in the most egalitarian countries still pick tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 09:59 AM
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Nice try, making women have sex with men early on, for "their own benefit" :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 09:53 AM
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That is definitely not the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:49 AM
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And you want to argue they marry them for stability reasons, because their own high income doesn't give them a stable financial situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:44 AM
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yeah, SOME. Pick one that doesnt
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:43 AM
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Everyone has to pick women below their own relationship value if they want to have lots of casual sex. For a relationship though, he can pick a woman that is similar to him
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:33 AM
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So you start a debate about a topic with "this is a fact". Is this part of a mental illness you are dealing with? Seeing the current trends regarding hypergamy The current trends regarding hypergamy are that hypergamy is decreasing in the West. This is a fact. , dating a guy having a "mental illness" always be regarded as dating downwards by most women. No, it cannot be regarded as dating downward. It can only be regarded as dating sub-optimal. But then again, everyone has a limit of how high th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 07:49 AM
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You should have asked them about platonic dining. And no, love doesn't need a ring. Culture and long term future planning can be the reasons people "need" a ring.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:31 AM
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Just meet women without flaunting money or rich lifestyle. Then you will see if it's really the money or other factors that you were unaware of.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:17 AM
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And BE AT PARTIES AND BARS. "Most of the incels here" don't get invited to parties and say "i don't like loud music and bars". They are still at the step of "where can i meet women" and "it's not okay to approach a woman anywhere so how do i get to talk to women?"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:06 AM
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What does this mean? Women raise their visual standards for LTRs and they will lower their visual standards for hookups. Stop listening to what people say, whether they are blue pilled or red pilled. The studies have the answer and the study data is the red pill. That is the opposite of the red pill claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:01 AM
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That is no longer needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:59 AM
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They do have money and stability on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:58 AM
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If you wanted to step out I don’t see how the relationship was all that valuable in the first place. That is where your whole argument falls. Cheaters do not necessarily cheat because there was something wrong. It could be the best relationship in the world for them and they still want to fuck another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:21 AM
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The child is not yours and i will keep it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:19 AM
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I think we need ages at this point of the anecdotal evidence trial.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:14 AM
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I think you are just unhappy that you can't argue with the AI generated response and now look for a way to discredit it. deal with the argument or gtfo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:48 PM
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Why "should have"? Why do you want to tell others where to sleep? Nobody is interested in how you sleep. People already find the arrangements that best suit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:47 PM
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Of course not. You're missing my point which is -- why would anyone waste their time reading some regurgitated crap from an AI on a discusson board made for humans to discuss things? Because it's not crap. It's a precise explanation of sometthing i could have done similarly but not as fast and not as complete. it's an improvement on my own way of explaining it. It helps understand a topic, where the read would maybe not agree with it, if i explained it in a shorter way, because i didn't want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:39 PM
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Why worthless? If you look for something that will guarantee you attraction from another person, you will not succeed. There is only average increases in attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:36 PM
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How? They were not looking for a relationship, or were looking for a relationship on the side. YOu can have casual sex AND look for a committed relationship at the same time. Fucking strangers doesn't take up all your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:34 PM
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You are repeating what i said. Do you even check what the AI generates? You are agreeing with me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:37 AM
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Please don't format it in that way. Other than that, my argument is, that the "cultural shift" is not happening to the degree that men think it is. Men think it's not socially accepted to approach women here and there, but it IS. Going from one personal experience to others is exactly this bias i am talking about. You think you are clever by doing an AI response, but fail to see how i already addressed all of this with my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:30 AM
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The AI is just typing my thoughts and opinions out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 08:44 AM
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Because it is AI. Why would i spend the time explaining the issue people have with cognitive biases around rare negative events, when i can be done with it in 10 seconds and get to another thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 08:24 AM
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Nobody has someone who is everything they want in a partner. That doesn't keep people from being in relationships and being happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:43 AM
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pumping and dumping is not taking away from the pool of relationship candidates. Those are single women who want to have no strings attached casual sex. They are not on the market for a relationship in that moment. But let me phrase that argument in another way: What about all the genz men who can't have a relationship, because the women in their age bracket are in relationships with older men, and the older women don't like younger men or are unattractive to those men? That is a real issue and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:36 AM
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Men not approaching women because they fear being labeled a creep/laughed at/sexual assault accused/cops called/etc. is similar to women choosing the bear. People's irrational fear of very unlikely events stems from several psychological and cognitive biases that distort risk perception: Availability Heuristic: People judge the probability of events based on how easily they can recall similar events. Highly publicized, dramatic events—like plane crashes, terrorist attacks, or shark attacks—are m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:29 AM
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read about sociosexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:29 PM
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What makes you say its by choice? The studies on the topic. Those stats are what was UNTIL now. I dont see it as true. So you reject all studies because they are not up to date for your liking, and your views of how reality is, are based on your biased perception from your biased point of view on a very small sample size. And you want me to rather believe what you say than what is the trend from previous years? I used to study Law, which had plenty of women in it. And still the majority of the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:54 AM
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No, because humiliation in this way is not a typical female kink.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:49 AM
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Well, that surely has to do with the fact that a man needs to do pretty well to even become single father.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:47 AM
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You mean the part about polygamy, that leaves millions of men without a wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:43 AM
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Why don't you think about a humiliation kink?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:42 AM
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I think the husband has a kink regarding this. All fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:42 AM
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there is a large number of women who are single and use or have used dating apps pretty extensively. 70% of women are currently in relationships. Slightly more in their 30s, slightly less in their 20s. Half of the singles do want to be single currently. the other half is looking for a partner. Of the part that is looking, most will find a partner within the near future. A tiny fraction of the ones who look for a partner will stay single due to "nobody being good enough". It's irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:36 AM
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Macedonian immigrant. I was thinking about someone else. My error. Most of people in my generation are single. By choice. It has nothing to do with being unnatractive but with not being some perfect ideal. Then relationships would only happen for the perfect ideal people. Which is objectively not true. Relationships are distributed pretty evenly along the attractiveness spectrum. Normal looking people ARE in relationships. They are also NOT in relationships, just like super attractive and super …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:33 AM
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why don't you have an illusion of choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:17 AM
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You know there are relationship forms other than marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:16 AM
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Women on dating apps who are perpetually single due to an illusion of choice are an irrelevant minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:11 AM
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My girlfriend is genZ (albeit right on the border) and the women i date from online dating are exclusively genZ. My dating experience IS with genZ. I have been an ugly computer science nerd who couldn't be attractive to women if his life depended on it. It was the same 2004 as it is 2024. It was "tough" for me back then as it is tough for you now. It's not about the generation, it's about you being unattractive to the women you are interested in. Also, as a poor (student), polish immigrant to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:06 AM
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I would refrain from using any stats that haven't been made at least from 2025. Sure, if you want to talk about what happens currently with certainty, you need to wait two years. But we have past stats and trends and we have reason or no reason to believe that something fundamentally changed about dating. Most of Gen Z is single. I would refrain from using any stats that haven't been made at least from 2025. Like I'm starting to understand why they keep saying men are obsessed with us. I don't u…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:44 AM
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I really do not care what feminists shame. They are not my peer group. They have no relevance for my life. I don't think feminists are your peer group. So why do you care what hey think about your lifestyle?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:15 AM
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You don't need consistency. Women are not men. Why would they be shamed for the same things? Also women ARE shamed for having kids late. Just not by feminist online reddit social circles. Go out and touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:36 AM
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"Should not be shamed". Please, let people shame whatever they want. If you go against social norms, shaming happens. That is just how it goes. Shaming has it's place and use. If you want to break social norms, you need to be able to deal with the consequences. If you don't want to get shamed, keep to social circles that have norms that match your lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:33 AM
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and unbothered by societal judgment. You are the opposite of unbothered by societal judgment if you adapt what you say to what is received well by society. Also, how does this societal judgment look like for you exactly? And i am not talking about some anonymous online debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:17 AM
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Men of reddit, why is is so hard for you to accept the fact that you cannot be loved for how you want to be unlike women? But you just showed a way: "If you refuse to pay for any dates and wants that pure emotional love you could only insist 50/50 dates only from women. Why just not do it?" Make sure money is not a reason you are loved by keeping money out of the relationship/courting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:05 AM
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I think it would be more interesting to ask how the men would react.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:59 AM
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<image> 5'5" is 165cm and the way you described the guy makes him above average attractive for his height class. If he has the personality and lifetsyle for it, there is no reason to not have lots of sexual partners and girlfriends, just like his taller mates.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:26 AM
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60%+ of women aged 18-29 are in committed relationships, 70%+ of women 30-40yo are in committed relationships. They are not looking for "some ethereal perfect fit". They have found a fit that is from the "you see who you like, and who likes you back. Those are your ACTUAL options to pick from" category. It's the single people, and to some degree the casually dating people, who could only fall in the category of looking "for the "better option" out there, which will never come.". And those are mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:43 AM
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The bar for men is way to high! women should lower their standards. women lower their standards and settle for a guy who wouldn't have met their previous standards - But I don't want to be settled for!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:49 PM
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Not for you though?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:40 PM
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FWIW, i live near NYC and i'm totally convinced this is why there's an insane number of lonely single women who will never get married, the men are SOFT as hell and just aren't manly at all. What is that insane number of lonely single women? What is your source? What is the sex ratio of men to women in that bracket?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:39 PM
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They don't. Holy fuck. Every woman would have a body count of 100 if they always had visceral attraction and lust for Chads. The Chads are NOT the limiting factor here. It's the women, NOT sleeping with the Chads, because there isn't visceral lusting. If women want to have sex with a guy, they can pretty much. So if they do not have sex with the Chads all the time, it's a good indicator that there isn't this strong urge to fuck them,
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:15 PM
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What you want is irrelvant. What you can get is relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:12 PM
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What if we had XR headsets with an AI wingman attached to it that could tell you what to say to women to get them. Why would an AI wingman know what to say to get that woman that is sitting in front of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:11 PM
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THis might be interesting to you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSSkDos2hzo
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:09 PM
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I never thought someone ghosted me because sex was bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 11:35 AM
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If she takes it as an accusation she can react to it in any way she wants. If she breaks up, that is on her, not on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:50 AM
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You might rethink how think about who "SHOULD" accept whom. Just because someone is a 7 doesn't mean they are attractive to a 2 or they are the type of person a 2 would want to spend time with. A 7 can be an autistic idiot and be laughed at and rejected for that. You imply that a 2 should be grateful that a 7 approached them. You can absolutely reject a 7 as a 2 and it has nothign to do with your own valuation of yourself. That might be a reasoning on your end, that she could only reject a 7 if …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:49 AM
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I do not care what you or others classify as body shaming. You are not going to convince someone to change their behavior because it is hypocritical. That is the gotcha all the incels think they can play out to get sex from women, but it's not going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 01:17 PM
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Dude, if you have a micropenis, women do have a point about the sex not being as good. Your insecurity would be justified. I don't think anyone disputes, that being at the lowest end of the spectrum is a shit place to be. But penis insecurity happens for average dudes or even above average dudes. Because of porn. Not because anyone ever told them something negative about their "physical sexual performance" (another thing men are obsessed with that barely matters for women).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 12:56 PM
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I am not calling her anything. I say that i believe she is faithful and it's my child, but i know i will possibly get to a point where emotional turmoil will make me doubt that because i am weak and triggered. I want to make sure this situation doesn't arise and it won't have negative consequences for my bonding with the child or the relationship with the mother. It's all about me knowing i will be weak and doubt it and this will cause trouble. It's a safety net for MY issues. It has nothing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 12:42 PM
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Point me to some of that literature
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 12:40 PM
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Did the value of men increase too? Or how do the same old men win over these high value women for relationships to such an extent, that 70%+ of men are in relationships in their 30s? Do women sell themselves below value? I don't get it. If women are more valuable, then fewer men should be able to afford them. I don't see that. The lowest tier guy stil has a girlfriend. We only see some terminally online autists claiming that it's impossible to get a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 12:38 PM
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If there's no baby, then there's no baby being raised in a broken home after you demand a paternity test from your baby mama after it's born. My argumentation has nothing to do with the woman. There is no reason to break up for wanting a paternity test for my reasoning. Did you even read and understand what my argument was?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 06:16 PM
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Why does "dating in the west" only contain online dating? The overwhelming majority of average western men are in relationships and have frequent sex and are happy. Doesn't sound so bad. Why is it aparently a problem, that average western men get attention from women who are not conventionally attractive? Average MEANS not conventionally attractive. Is this a classic example of average men having overblown expectations for how beautiful their girlfriend needs to be? Average people date average p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:45 PM
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IN A SPEED DATING SITUATION. Can't you read the study?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:27 PM
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(which admittedly has never actually happened), Case closed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:26 PM
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What do you base that on?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:26 PM
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IN A SPEED DATING SITUATION. Which clearly is not a house party with a DJ playing and having social status, competence, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:23 PM
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I told you my take. YOu are not going to do this by thinking hard about it. You do not have the knowledge to build the model you want to build. The model will be way too faulty and incomplete. Research what there is on the topic first and present it, then we can build on that foundation together.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:10 PM
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What does that change? My argument has nothing to do with the woman. It doesn't matter if i tell her before or after conception or birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:26 PM
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Sure, you are allowed to approach people way out of your league, but your succcess rate will be close to 0. And if you want to take those chances, you will need to accept that everyone is alllowed to laugh into your face and that it's a normal reaction to defend one's own social standing. because you approaching them is a sign that you think they are as undesirable as you are. If the gap is too far, this is an attack and can be reacted to by a defensive action, like laughing, as in: How dare you…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:23 PM
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I think everyone is likely to cheat. What now?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:00 PM
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can you name one jurisdiction where this isn't the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:56 PM
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Maybe don't be a typical american and think the world only consists of the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:54 PM
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Therefore, if you demand a paternity test after the baby is born, you are telling your baby mama that you think it is sufficiently likely that she cheated on you, had sex with another man, and conceived that child with him instead of you that you are unsure that you're the father of said child. The whole point of IF she is my baby mama is to be found out. But other than semantics, no: i want a paternity test to make sure i will never doubt the paternity, even in the most heated arguments, in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:53 PM
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which part and why? I used online dating and social circles, where meeting women happened naturally, without the need to approach anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:14 AM
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Entirely depends at what stage in the process of matching to dating the ghosting happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:08 AM
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No, that is enough to get matches, unless you only try to match women above your league on the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:06 AM
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In 2024, the best way to meet someone is by combining dating apps, social activities, and events that align with your interests, while avoiding relying solely on any one method. Focus on self-improvement, confidence, and communication skills to make yourself more desirable. Be intentional and genuine in your approach, and prioritize shared values over superficial attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:00 AM
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Let photofeeler.com judge your pictures. You can use it for free if you rate some pictures for free credits.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 10:43 AM
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"women". you mean some fringe minority on an incel&autist board on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 10:11 AM
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Then you need to get a better profile. Different set of pictures are night and day. Check photofeeler to pick out the best pics of you. Also, you probably do not have a single goog picture. Take new ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 10:07 AM
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First, that survey is not representative. Second, why would one need to approach someone? I have had 3 girlfriends and 40 sex partners before i approached my first woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 10:06 AM
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Why? because you can't work with someone you fucked or have been in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 10:05 AM
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If people laugh in your face, you might want to look into if the people you approach are way out of your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 10:04 AM
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However, most do not hold these same sympathies for a man who wishes to get a paternity test. Soure? All you read about are the voice of emotionally triggered people who want to comment on the respective posts. It's biased. His feelings are valid, but he shouldn’t take it personally. Women's feelings about the paternity test are also valid, but they shouldn't take it personally. What you read in online discussions are the first reactions to feelings being hurt, by putting oneself into that scena…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:58 AM
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Why don't you understand average values? if you are a gamer, get a gamer girlfriend, or one who doesn't care. What the general public thinks about your gaming hobby is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:25 AM
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You work that way. And that is probably also a main reason for your issues in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:17 AM
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If this is your approach to getting to that formula to solve all attraction questions, you will not be successful. Stop making up theoretical examples and play it out in your head, but instead read the fucking literature on human mate selection and attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:14 AM
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Men cheating on their wives protect them from paternity fraud. Only in your constructed world where people cannot imagine that others work differently than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:08 AM
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How is that relevant to what we talked about?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:19 AM
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Well, if he is 20, then yes. When he is 40, then no, because it fits his age.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:03 AM
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If those men think making compliments is flirting, then this is why their "flirting" isn't working. Of course, flirting doesn't guarantee attraction at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:26 AM
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of course, compliments work as compliments, but it's not flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:25 AM
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How do you think all of the unattractive men get into their relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:24 AM
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So the solution is: be friends with lots of women who are way below you in mate value. Have a ONS with one of them, and then go on to profit from all the social proof and herd-mindedness of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:23 AM
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but many 40 year olds are shamed to the point that dating a 26 year old feels wrong I am a 40yo dating a 26yo (>4 years already) and i wasn't faced with any shaming (neither was she). same with many 35 year olds with 22 year olds I was 35 and she was 22. It didn't feel wrong for neither of us and we didn't get shamed or weird looks or comments by social circle or outsiders. Parents are super fine with it. and definitely hitting on 18. That's the area where i get SOME shaming from people outside …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:18 PM
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That is not flirting though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:08 PM
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Because joking is not flirting. It's joking. Flirting CAN contain a joking element, but that is not sufficient for flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:07 PM
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More men need to understand how flirting works. It's not making compliments. That's complimenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:05 PM
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That is not true. Showing off your confidence via flirting DOES cause attraction. Because confidence is attractive. And if it couldn't be shown prior to flirting, it can be shown with flirting. Which makes a formerly uninteresting man interesting to a woman, who is receptive to the man showing off his confidence. Of course, nothing guarantees attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:53 PM
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That is not the goal when you ask about the reports. The goal is to build a connection that you can take outside the workplace after a while and when there is mutual interest. It's a slow buildup, that never feels like sexual harassment or hitting on her, because it is not. It's a normal conversation to build rapport and bond over stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:36 PM
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I said overwhelmingly. So no, i am not convincing your that it doesn't happen. Women get wet and hot for men for all kinds of things other than physical attractiveness. Maybe focus on those, if you are not physically gifted. A lot of women get turned on insanely by what you say to them, or what you are capable of doing. Come back from repairing the car, with sweat and dirt, black oil alll over you, and she will want to fuck you right there and then, regardless of if you are 5'9 or 6'2, or if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:34 PM
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Incels (and non-incel single men) significantly overestimated the importance of physical attractiveness and financial prospects to women, and underestimated the importance of intelligence, kindness, and humor. Furthermore, incels underestimated women’s overall minimum mate preference standards. Our findings suggest that incels should be targeted for interventions to challenge cognitive distortions around female mate preferences. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224499.2023.2248096
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:25 PM
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Women overwhelmingly do not work that way. Men work that way. You should start taking their perspective and not force a very unlikely situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:24 PM
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If someone has a tight circle of supportive and nontoxic friends and has trouble dating, it is likely due to uncontrollable factors such as looks, money, etc etc You will not find a looks level or a money level that keeps people single. There is an equally undesirable persone to date for everyone. What keeps people single, other than their personality, is having too high standards for their own desirability level. And that might also just be part of their personality. But they will reject this n…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:03 PM
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"The second amendment to folk psychology concerns the sexual double standard. Contrary to the common notion that male promiscuity is tolerated whereas female promiscuity is not, both sexes expressed an unwillingness to get involved with someone with a high number of past sexual partners. For long-term relationships, there was virtually no difference between the sexes in this respect. For short-term relationships, in contrast, men were more tolerant of female promiscuity than women were of male p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:55 AM
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But those are average values. People are very different when it comes to how they view sexual partner count. The very few very promiscuous men have no trouble finding women who have no problem with their promiscuity and are likely promiscuous themselves. The study tested participants for their sociosexuality (SO), which plays a large role in attittudes towards promiscuity. Controlling for age, there was a significant interaction between sociosexuality and number of past sexual partners (Wilks’ L…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:41 AM
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Doesn't work out mathematically. You might not have the experience, but attractiveness and shaming are not the only reasons to make a partner choice on. I am notoriously into very young women and all my girlfriends had been 22 or 23 when i got together with them, regardless of my own age. But now, at 40, i wouldn't want another 22yo gf. I can't do that phase of life in a partner another time. It gets boring or i get too old for that, or both. For a relationship, i'd much more prefer a woman 26-3…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:50 AM
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Maybe because mothers don't want a lonely depressed son who hates life. I for one, would pick Caleb.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:40 AM
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So she can also do that when you don't talk to her. Why would she do it after you have been talking to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:33 AM
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i am making fun of the men who think you can't talk to women anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:25 PM
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All divorce reason are a fail. WHo is at fault when you stop loving someone? Who is at fault when life paths diverge? When people develop at different speeds and are not good for each otehr after a couple of years?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:23 PM
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The graph says she probably wont be divorced in 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:22 PM
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You don't need to sexually harass a woman at her workplace. you can talk with her without that happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:20 PM
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I was joking. But apparently this kind of statement is repeated so often in this sub, that it's not clear that i am making fun of the people who think there is no way to meet women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:19 PM
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that was parody
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:18 PM
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Really depends on what "younger" is and what the age gap is
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:17 PM
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What do you mean with "date"? Being in a committed relationship or going on casual dates, ONS, fwb, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:14 PM
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Where do you even meet women? You can't talk to them at work, in school, at bars, in clubs, in the gym or on the street! Social circles are a no go! Online dating doesn't work! I have tried everything, except approaching women in the spaces i told myself i can't approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 11:08 AM
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if you didnt manage to make someone interested in you No, it's when you didn't manage to make ANYONE interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 11:07 AM
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Easy, when everyone who has a sexual partner is a hoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:47 AM
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But you know nothing about the reasons for the divorces. Maybe the man fell in love with another woman and wanted a divorce. Maybe the man was cheating. Maybe the hoe was a perfect housewife. You just assume, that the woman was doing something wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:46 AM
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And how do you get from a 35% chance, to her being divorced in 5 years? If anything, that statistic makes it more plausible that she is still married in 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:40 AM
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I think i have read a study where receding hairlines were viewed as a marker of maturity, which has an attractive component for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:33 AM
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The idea that only your values and the things you personally care about matter is a very narcissistic way to approach a relationship That is exactly what you are doing though. You don't care about the woman's values.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:27 AM
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It is only modern women that have chilled discussion of past partners and sexual history, because they are insecure and care about keeping up appearance. I have never had an issue talking with women about their sexual history. But that is because they don't get the feeling i am judging them. Of course, they would react defensively if i would convey the sentiment, that they are someone worth less for having had lots of casual sex partners. Same reason why incels don't tell they are virgins, unles…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:26 AM
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are you dense? There is no difference for the answer of your question. Just ASSUME she just broke up before posting the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:03 AM
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That is the point. They are not potential dates for those guys who claim those high numbers either. They just go over to them, ask for number and then leave. It's a game at this point. "Do 20 approaches a night" but they are nowhere near a real chance to get a date from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 08:44 AM
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So the real advice is to tell average men to put themselves out there and to embrace rejection. Eventually it will yield results. That IS the advice. Improving only yields higher success rate at your current level, or opens up same success rate at higher mate value levels. Nobody needs to improve to get a girlfriend. You just need to talk to enough people on your level.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 08:42 AM
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You need to differentiate what people desire and what they realize in their lives. The perception that men are more interested in having children or larger families than women is rooted more in societal, economic, and structural factors than in inherent differences in desires between the genders. The practical constraints that women face—career conflicts, financial burdens, unequal caregiving responsibilities, and biological pressures—are significant factors that influence the decision to have f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 07:59 AM
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Start dealing with women who don't reject you. You choose who you approach. Women reject you because you are below their mating value.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:53 PM
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Not just comparatively physically uglier guys but guys who are ugly on the inside as well. Oftentimes shorter, in worse shape, petty, controlling, boring, ambitionless. You said it with your sister and her guy: if they are happy dating these "runts", they must be in the same league.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 09:00 AM
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This is why everyone wants to be a victim today, because people like OP ascribe value to victimhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:22 AM
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This is based on your comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:02 AM
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"Stop posting, or i'll tell the mods which formerly banned account you are." would be fine in your book?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:01 AM
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"The Rosie Project" by Graeme Simsion Male Protagonist: Don Tillman, a socially awkward, autistic professor of genetics. Why it fits: Don is not traditionally athletic or muscular, and his quirks and idiosyncrasies take center stage instead of physical appearance. He approaches love analytically, making for a refreshing romance narrative. "Attachments" by Rainbow Rowell Male Protagonist: Lincoln O'Neill, a shy IT worker. Why it fits: Lincoln is more of an introspective, sensitive guy who works a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:24 PM
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You don't want to be judged by who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:50 PM
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about 95% of teenagers will never end up dating <image> Instead of making up the world how you would like it, you should look at the actual statistics on that. People often claim that dating in middle school or high school is fundamental for people as it gives them experience. But that’s not the true case. It fucking is important for development: More than Myth: The Developmental Significance of Romantic Relationships During Adolescence The main reason being is that younger children don’t care a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:16 PM
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Every day we get one of those threads. In the end, you just want to manipulate women into giving sex to beta buxxers so they don't become abusive cheaters and women don't ahve anyone to build a family with anymore. You couldn't become a bad boy if you wanted to. You are a toothless tiger.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:35 PM
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Again, you are making up a reality here that doesn't exist. I do not ONLY get my value from how desirable i am to the other sex. I get parts of it from that. And if i should ever not be desirable by the other sex, compared to most other men, i still have lots of things to stabilize my ego on. Some of which do not require competing but cooperation, like a large circle of really good friends who value me immensely for "being me" and who carry and push my ego to levels that even a narcissist would …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:27 PM
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... why i agreed with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:23 PM
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Lots of women want me and i am in the priviliged position to be able to pick from a bunch of desirable options. And i have picked a girlfriend that is desired by lots of men. The reason she is with me, is because i outcompete the other men who want her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:03 PM
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I would say that smake dab in the middle of avavarage. Yes, for total relationships before settling down into a "lifelong" relationship, but not for relationships at the age were i started dating my girlfriends (22-23yo). And i don't consider dating someone for 5 weeks a relationship. But that is , of course, all my subjective setting i had in mind when answering the question about the scenarios. In any case, a sign that someone isn't able to keep a relationship going or pick the right partners …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:53 PM
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Sorry to hear that no man wants your girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:48 PM
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Sure, that is not an excuse. You just do the test again and see if it was a false negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:41 PM
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Monogamy does not include having sex with your partner whenever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:36 PM
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It's cheating on the vows itself. I am not an expert on marriage vows, but to my knowledge, they are (1) personal and (2) do not contain vows to never deny sex in a marriage on a regular basis, if at all. There are no rules what you can consider cheating. If that is cheating to you, divorce or have any other consequences for it. Now, for social stigma, you need people to regard your rules as sensible. Not allowing a partner to deny sex is not sensible and everyone wants to be able to do that. In…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:34 PM
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that is not the blue pill advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:17 AM
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Well, did you agree to have a child together? Then whatever care needs to be done is on the both of you. How you split up childcare and paid work is up to you. Same goes for household responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:11 AM
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The solo flying one would be the least attractive to pursue something with. Very high chance that i am also not the one they want to commit being with and likely that is not even the true reason for being solo all their life. 4-5 relationships is on the higher end but still reasonable if they started early. No problems with that. Dodging questions and being the victim in relationships would make me hesistant to pursue anything with them. As with the first person, they are probably lying and ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:17 AM
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How is it nerve wrecking to flirt with a woman? It's pleasurable. What exactly are you doing on a semi-industrial scale? Or have you done?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:21 AM
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Because you say so, or because you have some foundation to base that statement on?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:01 AM
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.these are the women that have to pay . Says the guy who is so lonely and terminally online that he wants to pay for strangers (women) to go eat with him in restaurants, platonically: "I like being alone 99% of the time unless I'm going to a nice restaurant I don't want to maintain and invest energy into a friendship" , "...and call me old school but a gentleman should pay for the meal if he has a lady join him for dinner" . https://np.reddit.com/r/LivingAlone/comments/1ffoqpr/have_you_ever_cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:53 AM
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How many dates have you been on this year were you paid for all expenses?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:42 AM
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This depends on the relationship and the situation and the legal situation and what the father wants to do with the test.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:27 AM
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What kind of excuse would she be able to make up if the test comes up showing you are not the father?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:19 AM
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Men and women can now read each other's thoughts on the internet, and that takes all the mystery and intrigue away from the opposite sex and fills in gaps that are better left unfilled. So is that an appeal to go back into the Matrix and swallow the blue pill? By extensions, red pill knowledge is also killing romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:17 AM
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Ah yes, the classic n=1 study of "i know a guy" that you know exactly how great his relationship is, who is an outlier in intelligence and maturity. That surely is a great way to generalize over all people and make a statement about the importance of relationship experience for having good relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:10 AM
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That's why he said no one wants someone with the baggage of inexperience. What unspoken rules? What is your combined time of having been in romantic relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:06 AM
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lol, posting this in this sub is ABSURD. SO many bitter incels here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:03 AM
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With an internship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:02 AM
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the red flag is not that they lack experience, but that they are unwanted by others for some unknown reason that the lack of relationship experience is the proxy for. Also, i think you cannot know what you want unless you have experienced a couple of people. Communication skills can be fine, but conflict resolution skills without relationship experience must be low, as you mainly learn that by being in relationship fights. Sexually pleasing a partner can be learned, but then again, why would you…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:57 AM
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You don't seem to understand what exploitation is
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:33 AM
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I favor chocolate icecream over vanilla. Do i never eat vanilla ice cream? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:32 AM
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What do you call work? Flirting with women? Asking someone on a date is work to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:30 AM
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it's irrelevant how you call that what you want. You compete over it with other men, in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:29 AM
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That is not about WANTING to sacrifice. It's law.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:27 AM
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Yes, some women are being shamed for not being mothers, for not having partners, for not fulfilling a female role in society, for not being pretty. Exactly. Go to places that accept you how you are. Shame is a societal tool to make you follow norms. If you don't want to follow norms, go to subspaces or just take the pressure and withstand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:22 AM
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Ah, the classic: I base my worldview on a reddit post of a singular example of a biased population of people who have problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:07 AM
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You are competing with other men for the prizes you want. There is no negotiation with society. there is only competition with your rivals. What is your own interest, that you want to put foremost? What are you sacrificing right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:48 PM
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Favoring women does not mean not caring about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:45 PM
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Correct me if i am wrong, but we steadily increase workplace safety for everyone since at least 100 years in the West. Where do you get the idea from that we, men and women, are not convinced that it'd be nice if fewer men died on the workplace and are not doing a lot to achieve this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:38 PM
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I never thought about where my limiting principle is, because it's WAY far out of what society discusses and the current laws are. I am FINE with what laws in my country say, as long as i have a reasonable chance to abort within that timeframe. I don't need others to follow my morals and i recognize that they would not make good laws for a society, where most people don't share my views. No, a parent could not just stop caring for a 6 month old with no repercussions. As with any life, we strive …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:29 PM
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I don't care if it's a human life. It's a human life that i think we have a right to extinguish.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:58 PM
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I am not "admitting" anything. Morals are subjective. Mine are as valid as yours. I don't call you out for "admitting" that you are treating fetuses like newborn. No, there a no new anatomical structures that develop after birth. Why would THAT be relevant to my morals? I don't define abortion based on anatomical structures.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:50 PM
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As of recent data, the percentage of relationships in the U.S. where men are the sole breadwinners has decreased over time. In heterosexual households, among couples aged up to 45, around 23% had men as the sole earners according to data from the U.S. Census Bureau and Pew Research (as of 2021). This is part of a broader decline from previous decades, reflecting changing gender roles and increasing female participation in the labor force. Doesn't seem like there is an expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:45 PM
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I really don't care about the fetus' anatomy. I am fine with the limits on abortion within the first 12 weeks, if that makes people happy about their morals. I can get my girls to the abortion clinic within 12 weeks. But I would abort the fetus any time before it's born. Because that are my morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:29 PM
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You do know that you are the boss of your financial interactions with your partner? Don't want a partner who expects you to pay more? Don't fucking be with such a woman. Who the fuck cares if other relationships do it differnetly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:16 PM
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Fuck the fetus.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:03 PM
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If you interfere with adequate mate options, you will be successful in no time. Men who get rejected all the time shoot above their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:55 PM
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You mean that some species get eaten by their mates after sex? You know that his is in the interest of the males? It's evolutionarily beneficial to provide nutrients for the female that just got impregnated, than to keep living and maybe impregnating another female. The males who had a fleeing instinct were less evolutionarily successful, than the ones who stayed around to get eaten. Male spiders are not complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:53 PM
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Fine, then they can take the better option and not compete. They are happier this way, women are happier this way, and other men are also happier this way. What is the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:50 PM
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There is no expectation that men are the breadwinners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:16 PM
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There is shaming and ostracizing going on for everyone. People just find the social circle where they are not shamed and ostracized for how and who they are. I am sure there is a social circle for you, where you can live a life with minimal shaming and ostracizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:12 PM
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Not caring about women doesn't mean not contributing to society. Why would anyone check out of society and not just relationships with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:05 PM
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Just stirring the pot. I saw a lot of comments about penis size in your comment history. Usually, that is a sign of men being super insecure about their penis size and often for no good reason. I have read so many body dysmorphia guys who were convince that their average sized penis was absolutely unfuckable and the reason women would laugh at them and reject them on the spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:27 PM
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Marriage isn't done by society to men. You choose to marry. It's optional. How is it exploitative? If anything, you could argue it's beneficial to the lesser earning partner in case there is a divorce. There are more benefits for women => how is that EXPLOITING men? Institutions are also not society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:24 PM
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Is it because you worry so much about penis size?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:20 PM
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No, it doesn't. There's this thing called self-control which allows you to still make educated decisions despite how you may be feeling at the moment. You couldn't be more wrong. Maybe read "Predictably Irrational: The Hidden Forces That Shape Our Decisions" by Dan Ariely. There is a chapter about how we make decisions when we are sexually aroused (or in any other emotionally heated situation). Here is the study that is talked about in the book https://people.duke.edu/~dandan/webfiles/PapersPI/S…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:11 PM
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Why are you so afraid of failing? Some things cannot be made sure to not fail. Such as relationships. If you don't want to get divorced in your life, you are not able to marry. Which is fine, too. Marriage is getting out of fashion anyway. I can hardly see a reason why i should marry, and i am not even averse to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:17 PM
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Love isn't an excuse to not use your brain But that is exactly what love does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:15 PM
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Not divorcing means you will fail forever. Do you want to cut your losses and start into a better life, or do you want to keep losing forever like an idiot?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:10 PM
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Mental gymnastics? I literally gave you a review study on how women think about men to disprove your gibberish.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:08 PM
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You should include up to date science on love in your worldview. Yes, all relationships are transactional by this reasoning, except that conclusion doesn't mean anything anymore because you get there with such a broad and all encompassing definition of "value" that the conclusion becomes baked into the premise, thus making the argument unfalsifiable and untestable. What is your definition of transactional? Cuddels for rent payment? That is a bit narrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:16 PM
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Don't you want to divorce a cheatign wife or a wife who doesn't love you anymore , or a wife who gambles away all your money or who is pregnant by some other guy and wants to keep it? Don't you think it's good that you can get out of a marriaage with a woman who turned into someone you don't want to be married to anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:14 PM
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Disadvantaged is not the same as exploited. That would be dumb, uninformed and harmful to say. 50% of young men having never asked out a girl is not "checking out" of society. Also, basing your argument on a fucking survey on twitter on a biased sample of incels who follow the account that did the research is dumb, uninformed and harmful. Women do not hate men. Not even feminists hate men. To think that generations of women hate men is dumb, uninformed and harmful. https://journals.sagepub.com/d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:12 PM
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Why would that make anyone mad? Divorce is GOOD. It ends a bad relationship and gives both parties the option to get into a better relationship. That 0 sex partner people don't divorce is a religious thing, not a thing about sex partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:26 PM
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To me, volunteering is a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:21 PM
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Flags are different for every person. A green flag for me is a red flag for you. Where you find your friends, you can also find you relationship partners. Dating apps work great for some and offer options for introverts to engage with others, they would not meet or talk to in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:20 PM
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Why would any man want to sacrifice himself for a society that exploits him. Sacrifice himself for a society? By doing what? In what way is society exploiting the man? By not giving him a woman to fuck but expect him to not live on social security? Who is checking out exactly? The few MGTOW weasles? How many men check out and why should we care? I don't think there is an alterantive to our evolved hierarchical systems and the behavior that it leads to. You can get a girlfriend at any level. If y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:15 PM
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"the very rich"... go to a similarly small group at the bottom of the food chain and you will have 100% crime rate. To the extent of daily crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:07 PM
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A lot of "good/nice men" are men who live or have lived through hardships as opposed to men who were born with a golden spoon in their mouths. A lot of golden-spoon-in-their-mouths men are good/nice men as opposed to men who live or have lived through hardships. There is no reason to believe, that people who suffer in life are somehow better partners for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:03 PM
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The ancient Greeks had multiple concepts of love, such as agape (unconditional love), eros (romantic/erotic love), philia (friendship), and storge (familial love). While self-sacrifice may play a role in certain relationships (e.g., friendship or familial bonds), it wasn't a universally prescribed element of love in Greek thought. In Plato's philosophy, love (eros) is often defined as the pursuit of the Good and the Beautiful—an ascent towards higher forms of beauty and truth, as discussed in wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:51 PM
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The fact that they choose to speak about and promote these ideas, even when they don’t directly benefit from them So money and social status are no benefit to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:18 PM
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Neither people nor any app can find the perfect match for a person based on pictures. But they DO! A perfect match starts with a match of how people look. Then they text and see if that matches. Then they meet and see if that matches. They have sex. They spend more time... and in the end, you have a perfect match for whatever relationship type is wanted. We choose mates based on how attractive they are. If that is the first level of choosing or the 4th level of choosing doesn't matter. Imagine a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:06 PM
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Love is inherently self sacrificing by definition, or else it's not love. You just defined it that way? Where do you get that from? Who subscribes to that definition? It should require you to want to die for something, and isn't defined in any exchanges of value. What is the point of wanting to die for something? Why would that be love? Who would that serve? The loved one? On the other end, seeing all relationships as transactional is a typical sign of autism. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:52 PM
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You add that to his statement. It's not IN his statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 10:41 AM
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IMO what most men (including myself) expect from a relationship are sex, companionship and peace, and the first two are basic components from a relationship, and the woman gets exactly the same, those are shared, not exchanged. Peace is more tricky but it should be basic too. If both are getting the same, by giving exactly that, is it a transaction? So ANY kind of sex and sex frequency will do? And ANY kind of companionship will do, no matter what kind of lifestyle? If she wants 1 time sex a yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 10:40 AM
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It's a typical sign of personality issues and attachment style. People who are super afraid of being abandonned cannot deal wit hthe fact, that they need to bring something to table in order to be loved by someone and not be left. THey fear, that some day, they might not be able to provide and the nbe left, which is a trauma they cannot face and cannot risk. So it's better to be forever alone than to risk being left. Only unconditional love would guarantee to never be left. But that is a fantasy…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 10:27 AM
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That is the claim. There is a guy who is exactly like the commenter, except that he is in a relationship. So there is no quality about the commenter, that makes it impossible for him to be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 10:25 AM
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I don't think sex is degrading to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 09:13 AM
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There is a man just like you, who is in a relationship. How did that happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:59 PM
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They say that men and women must be able to be friends so let's look for evidence to support it, when in reality, if you go from evidence to conclusion as one always should, you come to the reality that men and women can't be friends. I can do everything with my female friends that i can do with my male friends. Don't pick relationship partners that limit you in your friendships, if you want to have equal friendships with women and men. You are trying to make a general statement, when every rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:31 PM
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please explain. I reread it 3 times and translated it into my language in case i missed something. There is nothing to be found about why he is unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:23 PM
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Why do you think i was making a point towards NOT "faking it till you make it" or to have an overblown sense of value? It's beneficial. That's why WE EVOLVED TO OVERRATE OURSELVES.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:15 PM
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There always is someone interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:12 PM
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None of my dates ever felt like a job interview. The overwhelming majority of them were enjoyable and rewarding. 99% of them were with me being >35yo. I think there is no reason to give up. It's in your hand to have enjoyable dates. Also, I dont think women have much to offer anymore, unless they desire you from the get go, their time and affection feels preety conditioned and transactional. They are always expecting something from us and sometimes their actions are not alingned to their desires…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:01 PM
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How do you know you are unwanted when you haven't been in the game to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:38 PM
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Why don't you post that research then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:23 PM
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Women file 80 percent of the divorces and divorce rate is 50 percent. Now we can debate all we want about these statistics, but they are what they are and there is a significant proportion of those marriages that ends because women is at fault. The numbers are wrong. Cite your sources. We live in a time where men are favored in relationships. No more commitment. You remember that women are the ones who seek commitment more while men want to be free and "spread their seed"? Situationships, fuckbu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 02:52 PM
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Make an example where it doesn't open up more desirable partners
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:36 PM
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Feel free to do it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:35 PM
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Sure, if you put yourself into a situation where there are no women, no advice other than "change location" will help.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:34 PM
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Show the statistics. Otherwise i'll just brush your comment aside.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:22 PM
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It's only a scarce resource in your worldview. The women i fuck from online dating do not regard it as giving away part of their dignity. (and they are also not looking to bag me. they just want to have fun and sex, feel desired and get attention)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:36 AM
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You can also just have committed relationships with women for years before you switch to single or another relationship, and you can also have sex with other women in the mean time. YOU are the designer of your relationships. Nobody forces you to be married to one woman for life in a "boring and stale marriage". If YOU have a boring and stale marriage, that is due to YOU being boring and stale or YOU choosing boring and stale partners. Ghosting women once they sleep with you? Why? This is just a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:28 AM
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Working out to become more physically attractive, becoming financially successful to allow for a high quality of life for you and your family to be, acquiring social status in your relevant peer group, OBVIOUSLY improves your desirability on the mating market. Any country's mating market. Yet, this is not a requirement to have a relationship or sex. It opens up more desirable partners and makes it easier to get casual sex interest from women. Nobody needs to self improve to get a girlfriend. Men…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:13 AM
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you have no idea about women, men and dating. Don't make up silly terms in a post, as a front to hide the fact you just want to put out one more thread about how women should date you, rather than get fucked by Chads. It's so tiring. Niceguys and incels keep on telling women how bad their behavior is for their own goals...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:57 AM
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What does that have to do with anything? The goal in these movements in not to gaslight others, it's to gaslight oneself so one doesn't feel bad about oneself. Fat acceptance movements don't want ME to accept fat women. They want fat women to accept themselves. The movements are inherently about keeping fat women unattractive and happy about it. Women keep their competition down, by telling them how attractive they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:48 AM
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But yet, we approach and we succeed. It's your choice if you approach and succeed or don't approach and whine on the internet about not getting a gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:43 AM
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Source: THE LAW. https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_stgb/englisch_stgb.html Section 183 Acts of exhibitionism (1) A man who vexes another person by committing an act of exhibitionism incurs a penalty of imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year or a fine. [...]
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:40 AM
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Date the people who are just as undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:35 AM
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The one who doesn't go on dates is the one at fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:35 AM
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i know. The explanations have been done in several threads over the past months. But it's always Chad harems and women thinking they are in committed relationships while they are just fuckbuddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:34 AM
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again, some people call each other boyfriend and girlfriend when they are not even in a relationship, but just have a 5th date. As long as she doesn't answer "i am in a committed relationship" when you told her that you have a friends with benefits relationship, everything is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:33 AM
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Can you quote 3 of the comments where "commenters will tell you to date other men as a solution to their dating problems."?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:30 AM
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<image> Women do approach the men who are just as desirable as themselves the most and they, a little more than men, stick to their own desirability level with the messages. There's a difference between "shoot your shot" and "I refuse to settle for anything less than a 6 foot tall Adonis with a 6 figure income and a 6 pack". Who refuses to settle for anything less than a 6 foot tall adonis with a 6 figure income and 6 pack? 99.9% of all the women in relationsships settled for less. And 99.9% of …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:49 AM
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If you say " the statistics don't agree" then i expect you to be able to actually have those statistics or point me to them. Please do so or retract your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:45 AM
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COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP is the key term. What does "dating" even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:45 AM
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Men gaslight themselves into believing their are hot shit. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:44 AM
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Well if you look at ~36yo women, that is to be expected. If you friend group would consist of 27-29yo women, you would have most of them in relationships with men 29+
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:43 AM
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well if a guy shoots his shot with a woman out of his league, he will just get rejected. meanwhile a woman in the same situation might get strung along, used for sex etc. That is not true. He might just get strung along, used for attention and money. Making up for your lack in looks with a fancy dinner is casual dating 101. Lots of men PERFORM something to keep the women interested, who are out of their league. It's short term and transactional. Just like when women get used for sex. All the men…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:42 AM
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Women get significantly more dating opportunities and attention Who is to blame if you are not one of the dating opportunities? The women who wait for you to approach them, or you, who waits for women to approach you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:10 PM
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In Germany, the law regarding indecent exposure or exhibitionism was set up in a way to only criminalize men, possibly, in hopes to get women to show us more of their naked bodies. Didn't work. Now, women are free to swim topless in public swimming pools, but they still don't do that. Instead, the woke left makes men keep on their shirts while dancing in techno clubs... instead of making women take off theirs, too. How quickly did "free the nipple" turn into "cover all nipples"?!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:37 PM
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They just date younger men because men their age are not putting up with their bullshit. They need to focus on men who lack the life experience to sort out the trashy women. Men, who are still so underdeveloped and hormone driven, that they can't resist pussy when it's offered, even if it's a loser women attached to it. OH WAIT
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:26 AM
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People, on average, see themselves as more attractive than they really are. That is good though. Slightly shooting above your own attractiveness level because you think this is who you match up with, is beneficial in evolutionary terms. It works from time to time and the negatives of getting a higher rejection rate is bearable. On average, we shoot 25% over our own desirability, when contacting others for dating. Most often, we do end up with people IN our league, rather than slightly above our …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:24 AM
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No, women who are stuck in situationships do not think they are in committed relationships to any relevant degree. Also, we have cohabitating data as well. But of course, you will explain how the players have several women rotating cohabitating with them because of work shift differences, so they all think they are in committed relationship, cohabitating with their partner, but actually they are just unknowingly part of a harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:02 AM
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"he said" is your basis?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:59 AM
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But why should that be an issue? It's not. Mating works. Both the short term sexual variety, and the romantic committed long term variety, as well as anything in between and outside of those two main drivers. The only people who can't shut up about this topic are foreveralone people, incels, niceguys, autists etc. who are a tiny minority in the whole mating dynamic. And they don't mate, because they think they deserve more than they can get, or they do not even attempt reasonable efforts to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:56 AM
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Bring the basis for your heuristics
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:30 AM
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Semantics. The implicit implication is obvious to everybody else that commented, but you So you agree, that you are just talking about young, single women who don't seem to be able to get a suitable man to take them on nice dates with intentions of commitment. That is: 34% of young women are single (pew definition). Half of young singles do not look to date/for a relationship. So 17% remain. It's a stretch to assume, that every woman who potentially wants a relationship but isn't in one right no…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:23 AM
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You don't mention "single people", you talk about "women", who cannot find a single suitable date. Yet, the overwhelming majority of women find lots of suitable dates and go into committed relationships or marriages with them. Single women are only single for a time, for the majority of cases. There are very few people who are foreveralone against their will. Look at people in their 30s. They all lived and still live, finding relationships every day, in the age of tinder&instagram when they got …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:40 AM
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So when men shoot above their league it's "shoot your shot, maybe you get lucky". But when women shoot above their league, it's "don't do it, you will never find a suitable date, but only men who just want sex and don't commit to. you really should give the men in your league, which i define who they are, a chance!" At some point you have to accept responsibility and acknowledge that there are many men out there willing to take you nice dates, but you're just not into them. The overwhelming majo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:10 AM
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It's not a "vs". it's the same fucking shit. Stop using averages of groups or even extreme outlier positions to make statements about individuals of the same group. The greatest problem of this sub is people thinking that averages of groups (other than the own group) mean that every individual is like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:58 AM
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What people are attracted to is not necessarily what they would choose as a relationship partner. Overall, people in romantic relationships are quite similar in attractiveness and other traits. A league is no definitive rule for who you can get, it's a probabilistic approach. After all, you don't want to spend your life going for the 0.000001% chance types, because LEAGUES ARE NOT A HARD RULE! You want to date people that have a realistic chance to want to commit to you. Imagine what a world wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:33 AM
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That is exactly what women are doing on OLD and everyone is furious how they have no sense of their own value and try to get men to commit to them who are way above them. What is it now? Are you fine with all women just shooting their shot with the very attractive men, because they might hit the jackpot?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:27 AM
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Sounds like you need to get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:18 AM
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We always talk about averages. Nothing applies to all men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:50 PM
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Why are you not accepted and not loved?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:48 PM
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"what would happen".. please , pick out a respective sample of threads that are not biased but representative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:47 PM
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There are studies about incels and they tend to have problematic mental health issues. OP was an incel for 30 years. There really is enough data on incels to use heuristics about them. OP really just fits and people don't see how he is different from the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:44 PM
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"I believe" is not heuristics. Show the data basis of your heuristics and we can cleary see that there is no correlation of science and pedophilia.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:42 PM
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I guarantee you if this was a man berating his wife Well, your guarantee is nothing to base your analysis of this being a biased platform on. You should find a comparable example, or even better, a range of comparable examples. https://np.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/1ewtcuv/every_time_my_wife_43f_gets_home_after_a_few_days/ The top comment is: I think she may have some bitter feelings or resentment about having a very disabled child. When she has to return after having fun, it seem…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:45 AM
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Heuristics. If you are the exception, you need to prove it. Your post didn't do a good job at proving that. The consequence is, that people are not convinced you are different than what statistics would lead them to expect from your life history
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:36 AM
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See I'm all for men needing to take risks, but if we want to live in an age of equality we can't one sidedly foist all the risks and dangers on men, and then have women be able to just sit back, accept who they want, and shoot down men as they wish. You are, again, hiding your inactivity behind "if we want to live in an age of equality". We don't. Equality doesn't mean things are the same for men and women. Women face great risks and dangers in mating that men don't. It's not comparable. Equalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:23 AM
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Yes, absolutely. And i would be surprised if he doesn't already do that. After all, how much control do you have over whom you fall in love with?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:13 AM
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Dude, you can get accused of anything for just existing. How are you not deathly afraid of that? You don't need to talk to women to get accused. So, at least do somethign with your life that even has a chance of women wanting to be with you. Men need to take risks to get what they want. Being as risk averse as you are won't get you anything in mating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:03 AM
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I am a Chad. Not the chadliest of Chads, but well within the top 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:51 AM
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You used "logical part of the brain" and several other commenters, which i couldn't all address specifically, talked about "logical" when "rational" would be correct. I just wanted to make a point for all the readers to adopt a more precise language.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:48 AM
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Show us the statistics please.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:38 AM
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Explain, how you get to average values of men who hare happy with their girlfriends/wives and can find sex with women easily, about how they treat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:37 AM
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How many percent of men are not loved and accepted?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:35 AM
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Yes, there is a evo-bio urge for procreation Got a source for that? Because that is one of the things i highly doubt and never could find a source for it. For all i know, we have a drive for sex, not for procreation. Procreation just happens on the side. There never was a need for a specific drive for procreation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:34 AM
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Difference Between Logical and Rational Logical and rational are two concepts that are often used interchangeably, but they have distinct meanings in philosophy, psychology, and everyday usage. Here’s a breakdown of their differences: Logical refers to reasoning that is consistent and follows a strict set of rules or principles, often based on formal logic. Logical thinking focuses on the structure and validity of arguments. If an argument is logical, it means that the conclusions follow correct…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 09:18 PM
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Classic, BraindeadMarshal response.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:51 PM
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I am not punching down. I want to know if he understands why he gets to have this experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:48 PM
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Make an argument against it being about insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:17 PM
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I am curious if he realizes how his condition affects his desirability.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:16 PM
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Any social group. You know how you become part of social groups? You do stuff with others that interests you and them. You talk to them about this interest, life, the world. You get warm with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:14 PM
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Yet, work is, was and remains one of the most prominent places to find partners offline.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:12 PM
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It's better to approach and risk making people slighty uncomfortable, than being super uncomfortable yourself for the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:11 PM
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Same. Every week i get closer to deleting the account and giving up on making people see their issues or the truth. This board is about challenging your views. I don't think anyone here has ever changed their views or was willing to challenge them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:11 PM
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What are you angry about and how does it show?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:09 PM
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Yes, it has been like this for years. Most of the threads here are terminally online autists who have lost touch with reality and make up arguments in their head and think they get to "gotcha moments" that will result in them getting laid or society seeing how it has to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:08 PM
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Chad doesn't feel entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:07 PM
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I think it's super unrealistic. But you don't seem to have a problem with unrealistic things, considering your religious beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:04 PM
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Do you have a lot of these inner conversations with yourself, where two positions are answered in contradicting manners? Where does this shaming of men happen? In your terminally online world of incels and angy catladies, where the most extreme positions of the most fucked up people collide and you think that is life?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:49 PM
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No, you don't ask around. You become part of a social group and do warm approaches where you see mutual interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:45 PM
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You are just shifting the goal post. For every solution, you introduce another hurdle. In the end, there is no way for a social anxiety, autistic man in a 100% male dominated work and hobby environment, who is allergic to sunlight and only sits at home, being 400 pounds and with several facial deformities to find a woman without divine intervention. Are oyu happy now? For everyone else, going out and socializing, doing warm approaches, is working. Stop being so fucking annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:44 PM
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Consider that people are not a monolith and some want to be approach while others don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:42 PM
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Yes, warm approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:40 PM
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These people need to see that the problem is within them I spent the last years posting basically "no, you are the problem here" under posts in all subs related to dating and relationships. It's astonishing how many people do not understand their own mechanisms and faults.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:37 PM
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Trustworthy man here. I am a man who is rated as super trustworthy by men and women of all ages alike. It doesn't take long for people to trust me. Most of the trustworthyness seems to come just from my appearance. People trust me right from the start to quite a large amount. Talkin a few minutes with me opens up further trustworthyness and people tell me their deepest issues, mental health problems, fears, shameful things, etc. Bouncers tell me "nah, i don't need to search you, i just trust you…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:20 PM
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The woman dropped clear signs that she just plays along to lets you keep your face in the social cirlce. You on the other hand, did not get that, because autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:03 PM
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You blindly trust data way too much bro. You are the idiot here, but you are too stupid to realize it. I also remember another crazy statistics saying like a 85% percent of men haven't had sex in years. Your own source says that sexlessness is low, with ~15% of men having not had sex in 2021. It's way lower if you take a longer timeframe of "sex in years". You just owned yourself pretty hard, going from a claimed 85% to a source of 15%. Obviously 85% percent being sexless for five years is delus…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:56 PM
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i have dealt 2 times with the issue now. Yes, right now religious people have more children. But they do not keep their high fertility. You think it will always remain higher than the non-religious. I think it will end up at similar levels. My argument for that is, that the fertility rate is dominated by factors outside of religious values. Religion just correlated with the previous outside values that led to higher fertility. Where will fertility of religious people be at in 50 years, according…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:32 PM
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Can you understand why women don't want to date you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:23 PM
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"what you can get" for a relationship. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:13 AM
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This sub is wrong. ALL the data show that the top percent of men regarding sex partners have a higher count than the top percent of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:11 AM
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We don't disagree with that. My claim is that it's even lower in non religious countries and groups. No, my point is, that religious communities are just lagging behind but show the exact same trend and will end up at the same low points. Why are you hostile to future projections in data. As i just explained, that is exactly what i do. Project the data of religious communities into the future and you end up with below-replacement fertility in a few years. Are you trying to say that religion does…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:10 AM
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of course i am interested in a woman that sleeps with me on the first date. If she doesn't sleep with me on the second date at the latest, i would discard her as relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:01 AM
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As a woman, you encounter plenty of dudes of both types during your lifetime. The first sounds a lot more feminist, and egalitarian, but would it be a stretch to say that the second type of man wins you out a lot more often? How many fucking times does it need to be repeated before you guys finally understand that women are not a monolith. What the FUCK do you mean with "as a woman"? Every woman has her own views on this. My girlfriend would never choose the traditional man, because she doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:18 PM
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go look who was in their bed the weekend before. Look at relationship statistics. 70% of men are in relationships. How many percent of men are slim, fit, musculous, outgoing, ec." 1-5%. I am all for "look at what women do, not at what they say". And this clearly points at average guys being just right for average girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:00 PM
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I think the issue is we've had rules over such boundaries for decades, Who the fuck is "we"? Everyone makes their own rules for their relationship and friendships. The one thing that seems quite disingenous though is saying that men and women can be friends, including with people they're sexually attracted to, as long as there are certain boundaries present. Boundaries apply to how you interact with ANY person outside a romantic relationship partner. People are sexually attracted to a lot of peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:53 PM
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. I also remember another crazy statistics saying like a 85% percent of men haven't had sex in years. You remember incorrectly. Sex partners in the past 5 years: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:44 PM
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So what is the role of women in society? We know men are to be providers, and domestic laborers, what do women do? Can you please stop thinking about all women/men being the same? Everyone can do what they want and choose a partner that is to their liking, regarding roles. Not everyone is a feminist. And men are definitely not the domestic laborers right now, on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:41 PM
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And why would you take the views of the vocal minority in a datingover40 sub, over what actually happens in the world? You say that in other countries, it's teh standard. What do you base that on? Do you have statistics for that? Why don't you use the same statistics for the US, but instead rely on a biased unrepresentative subsample of women to inform us about hte state of coffee dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:16 PM
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There will be a greater proportion of traditions like religious adherence in a generation or two. Do you have the data on that or is that just speculation, that decline in fertility rate is faster in non-religious communities than decline in adherence to religious traditions overall? More religious countries are more likely to be above replacement Africa has the greatest rise in religiosity. Look at how their TFR is developing. Where do you think will it end up? https://www.statista.com/statisti…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:09 PM
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Define what you mean with fetish. Because it's not what a fetish is. Unless you mean by "type" the way my foot looks. I think what you talk about are sexual preferences, maybe a kink, but not a fetish. Of course, my long term partners want to be "my type", matching my sexual pereferences. And of course, i pick my LTR partners to match my preferneces and kinks. Key Characteristics of Fetishes Intense Focus on a Specific Object or Activity: A fetish involves a strong sexual attraction to a particu…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:20 PM
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he didn't read the room. Just like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:13 PM
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Any tradition that's tied to increasing birth rates will last longer than one that doesn't. Fertility rates go down worldwide. Where are the traditions that are tied to increasing birth rates? They die like flies. They are in niche minority communities. but religiosity is a long-lasting tradition that is tied to increased birth rates. "Thus, the overall picture of fertility in Muslim countries has been from a regime of high fertility in the early 1960s, when most countries had a TFR of 6 to 7.5 …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:07 PM
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Women don't want to not be desirable for the men they desire based on how old they have become. It's just a reaction to a hurt ego. I don't understand why you would even make this a topic, other than again, lashing back out at those women and make public statement about how they are all insecure in their value and not able to deal with how young women are more desirable to men. The only way to not make it about the woman's sexual marketplace value, is to make it about oyung women being too naive…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:55 PM
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If a woman is in the mood for getting down and dirty and a guy isn't for any valid reason, she will very rarely acquiesce politely...she will very likely either sulk and leave or go silent, or aggressively pressure you, or imply that you must be a closet homosexual. Au contraire if a man wants to get his pecker wet and she is not in the mood he is expected to drop the subject immediately or risk being seen as a sex pest pig. So what? Both sexes expect that the other takes a rejection easily and …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:45 PM
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they will not withstand the test of time Nothing withstands the test of time. Least of all, conservative traditions. Are you blind? All conservative traditions EVER have fallen over time and the ones we currently still see around to a high degree are also going to fade out
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:43 PM
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Being clingy is not because the partner is such a catch. Only incels think that a clingy gf would be not a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:40 PM
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If a man on here brings up women’s dual mating strategy Well, you whole argument is only right because you misrepresent what the dual mating strategy is. Also, there is no evidence that the strategy really exists. "that some women will hook up with their first choice, but when they are unable to get commitment from these men, will “settle” for the stable but not so attractive guy" This is just "settling" and both men and women do it, because nobody gets their first, theoretically ideal choice. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:39 PM
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Low birth rates will solve themselves. It just takes generations. It's the normal adaptation of the gene frequencies in a population to the new environmental situation. There is absolutely no point in "making people have kids" who don't want kids, or who want to have them later rather than sooner. Nobody has even found a way to "make people have more kids". Don't worry, everything will work out evnetually and the adaptation phase will be different but not a "disaster". People do not live where t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:29 PM
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Imagine you're a man, walking down the street, minding your own business and every so often a women comes up to you unprompted. Awesome! She propositions you for a relationship! I'll proposition being a stay at home trophy boyfriend. She tells you that you're perfect husband material and if you please please pretty please would marry her! I'll check her assets and earnings, and consider being with her, if that offers me a lifestyle i couldn't get on my own. If she isn't wealthy and influential/c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:13 PM
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[source needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:54 AM
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Having a 50% position + baby vs having a 100% position is a tradeoff many couples do to share the workload. Depending on the job, the person working more carries WAY higher risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:53 AM
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The vast majority of people are also running at capacity. If something gets added on top, like a pregnancy, something else will have to be dropped and/or taken care of by the partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:51 AM
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middleschool edgelord detected :D
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:49 PM
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For most men the idea of even one woman actively liking you and wanting to be with you is unimaginable. Stop the "most men" bullshit. Most men are in committed relationships and have multiple sexual partners (n>5). If a regular guy said what Tate said then people would laugh at him But people DO laugh at him. He is a clown. The one who don't are also not laughing at average guys saying the same stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:41 PM
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You do understand that you can exchange goods and services for each other? One doing the dishes, the other doing the lawnmowing, can also be an evenly split workload. One carrying the baby, while the other earns the money for the baby, can also be an equally shared workload
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:20 PM
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If you exclude the following:... Then you find that there's no realistic way a women who... What do you mean with "then you find". Where do i find? In personal anecdotes?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 01:35 PM
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Women don't typically love like men do. Yes, they do. Love works the same in both sexes. And to maintain a high level of attraction, you need to continue being the guy she fell in love with. No, that is stagnation and not attractive. To maintain a high level of attraction, you need to become the man she will fall in love with again in the future. centred in his masculine purpose empty made up buzzwods.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 01:06 PM
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How is a "modern relationship" one that isn't 50/50 in all regards?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:49 PM
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The issue is, that those women "ain't shit" themselves and you don't realize that advising them to have higher standards would lead to no better result in men at their side. you get what you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:32 PM
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"allowed" "justified". Dude, you can do whatever you want. You do not need permission by some reddit "AITA" jury, or anyone else. Want to break up/divorce for whatever reason that seems fine in your view? DO IT.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:09 PM
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I mean... If women can also display those bad behaviors, why exactly there are people spreading out this idea that straight dating is disadvantageous for women? Men can run into women with those bad behaviors too! It's a false and biased idea because it comes from a false assumption that those are the reasons that straight dating is disadvantageous to women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:25 AM
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if you cannot provide the evidence or even just the google search term to find it with a bit of digging, yo uare clearly full of shit. But that was obvious from you other posts too. PURE ideology, zero evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:19 AM
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So they are not in a committed relationship? That is what i said.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:18 AM
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How is it relevant if 90% of reddit disagrees with a factually right statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:16 AM
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Who holds the view that men are obligated to risk their lives for strange women? It's in the freaking law, that nobody is obligated to risk their lives for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:41 AM
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You should probably not take part in online discussions with that low of a reading comprehension, if you think i bragged about hurting people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:01 PM
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From the male perspective, yes. You don't know the female perspective and you do not even put in some effort to try to get into their perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:00 PM
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Then it should be easy for you to present the evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:59 PM
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female 4 can date a male 8 If 4 means the same in men as i women, then no, she cannot date this man seriously. She can only get fucked by this man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:59 PM
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Men need to stop wanting women based off of how they look lol. never.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:58 PM
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My USERNAME indicates i am not reasonable? How is that a reasonable assumption to make about a person. Other than that, you are correct about your difference of definition. I do not define settling as not gettign what one wants. That is why i had an "IF" in my initial comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:56 PM
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an average leftist is going to disagree hard. and how is that relevant? Average leftists are completely removed from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:52 PM
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Compressing any set of complex behaviors into a single data point is specious. No, you are just no aware that his is possible and i fucking hate it that you are so ignorant instead of asking me HOW. Overview of Multidimensional Scaling (MDS) Multidimensional Scaling (MDS) is a technique used to visualize the level of similarity or dissimilarity between a set of objects. The goal of MDS is to place each object in an N-dimensional space such that the distances between the objects in this space mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:48 PM
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Looksmaxxers are called incels because they think women prioritize looks, not for looksmaxxing itself. But they do prioritize looks, and people who care about their looks are more successful with women. Putting effort into one's appearance is pretty much the opposite of inceldom. As i said, i never heard someone being called an incel for caring about that. I only see incels being called incels, regardless of how they see caring for attractiveness. Those studies deal mostly with patients who suff…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:40 AM
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Because they apparently are more attractive short term partners than her brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:10 AM
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Well, first of all, you’re reducing a very complex set of behaviors into a single data point, No, the data point consists of as many values or descriptions as you'd like. Secondly, mating behavior pre- and post- agriculture are vastly different from each other, Yes, but still way closer to each other than what we do today. Birth control is MASSIVE. Being together with many different people in committed relationships over hte course of a life instead of just one, is massive. Being to gether for "…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:08 AM
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You you define it the same way. settling as accepting someone who is less ideal than you dreamt of == think you can do better (whether that is correct or not)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:00 AM
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Men, for the most part, cannot imagine that the female situation really is shit either. it's not HARD, as OP claimed, but it's really a bad experience overall. That's why women overwhelmingly hate online dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:53 AM
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Autists are not average normal people. In any generation. The severely diverge from being normal in the aspects that are more relevant for social relationships. Why i even need to tell you this is beyond comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:57 PM
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that he still deserves an amazing wife. No, he doesn't, Partners are earned, not deserved. There is a reason why he doesn't have a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:53 PM
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As i said : matches have no values for us. You do not understand. Not getting ANY match, would destroy your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:46 PM
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I DO NOT ARGUE FOR WHY!!!! ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID?!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:44 PM
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WHich of the two studies i posted did you read?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:28 PM
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I just changed over time and experienced different people, different environments, myself in different situations. "i don't need a study". Yes you do. This is one of those things where you would change your mind if you actually went through the process of reading the science. "i never thought i should read a study on predicting behavior in certain situations because i was sure i just know it, but then i realized how all teh people in the study thought so as well and they were mostly wrong".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:48 PM
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So swiping 100 women to the right, even the unattractive ones, and not getting a single match after days of waiting for them to possibly swipe back, is somehow not different for the ego, from matchign with 2/3 of the men you find attractive and possibly want to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:46 PM
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Cheating for everyone is excuseable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:31 PM
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You are wrong. Please, read the studies as a starter into that topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:30 PM
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It was my first night of having sex ever. After the initial two rounds of sex we spooned, i fingered her slightly while her back was turned towards me. She fell asleep during that and i did not notice that. When she became increasingly wet, i took that as a sign that she is horny and wants to fuck. Stuck my dick in and after a while she started moving. Only learned the next day that i woke her up with sex and she was asleep at first. She felt very violated and i felt very sorry. Still, rape is r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:28 PM
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isn't that what all the true crime stuff is about? Should be plenty of material to consume. Unless you have specific persona lquestions that you think nobody else has asked rapists on tape.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:24 PM
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I am not projecting my weaknesses to others. I posted studies about how people are not able to predict their actions in the future in certain situations. But of course you far smarter person haven't read the studies. Probably never read a study in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:23 PM
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Would be over quite fast: i didn't know she wasn't awake and didn't know women can get wet while asleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:12 PM
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To quote you from another thread: Nah, sorry. Advice women give are 9 out of 10 times useless. And I'm not saying this out of malice. How come you changed to "believe when women post stupid dating advice shit on social media without scrutiny" so quickly?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:35 PM
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how old are you? <image> https://bumble.com/date/seasonal/coffee-date https://www.eharmony.ca/dating-advice/getting-to-know/coffee-date/ https://www.thecut.com/2018/07/the-best-first-date-is-a-boring-coffee-date.html https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/dating-advice/coffee-date/ I can go on forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:26 PM
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A leg to stand in here? It's part of the argument, part of the leg to stand on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:17 PM
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I am not justifying anything. I am only pointing out to you, that people are BAD A PREDICTING WHAT THEY WILL DO. HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES DO I NEED TO REPEAT THAT TO YOU? Nature is not joking, sadly. I'd rather laugh about your lack of reading comprehension and reasoning abilities, than realizing you are probably an average man, and i am surrounded by what feels like idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:13 PM
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Again, how old are you? Not believing everything you hear or read is not the same as treating everything you read or hear as a lie. You have to find out if something is a truth or a lie by yourself. That is part of being an adult. Understanding motivations helps at figuring out truths and lies. having real life interactions with people, as opposed to only social media interactions helps to get a background to compare information to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:41 PM
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It's not my lack of discipline. I even gave you a start to read the science on it. Maybe read Dan Ariely's book "Predictably Irrational: The Hidden Forces That Shape Our Decisions"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:37 PM
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. Are you saying we shouldn't believe those women? That is the essence of not being a naive child, yes. You are not meant to believe everything you read, even if it is from REAL people. Are you serious? You don't know to not believe everything others say on the internet or in real lfie? How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:35 PM
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And more and more women are saying Didn't you get that the first time you read it? What is your source on that? What you FEEL when you consume your super biased and cherry picked social media stream which exists in itself only to provoke and cause emotional engagement, not as a source of truth? bUt WhEr'S yOuR eViDeNcE" is not changing those facts Your facts are not representative of the population. They are anecdotes, and possibly not even real ones. What people post on social media is first an…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:29 PM
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But the women are not matching with men. Just because those women exist, doesn't make dating apps easy for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:26 PM
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I also said i would never rape. Then i raped the first woman i had sex with. I also said i would never take drugs. Then i took all the drugs. I also said i would never enjoy casual sex. Then i got an n count of 50, 10 years later. I also said i could never cheat on a girlfriend. Then i had an affair with her best friend. im sure most men are like this. Most people are bad at estimating what they would do, just as i said. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/bdm.501 https://www.science…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:23 PM
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"Believe Women" is a conspiracy to profit from destroying men and feminist establishment is party to it. So, we should believe you without evidence now? I really thought you would at least be better than random accusations that trigger emotional reactions and lead to a court of public opinions without looking at the evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:15 PM
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hiding something" (like wives) Yes, for example. I just gave out a fake instagram account to set up a date with a woman whom i didn't want to reveal my real age nor relationship status to, which would be obvious from a real account. Just be one step ahead. i don't get it, i just don't like it, idk by women are repulsed by me not wanting all my business out there. i don't want hundreds/thousands of people to be able to contact me whenever they want. i appreciate my privacy. You can set it up as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:46 AM
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When you say "hard for women" you actually mean "it takes time to swipe left on all the men women don't like and talk to all the men until they can be filtered out for not being good matches". There ARE men with careers, grooming, emotional intelligence and relationship goals on the apps, and women DO match with them and they DO get into relationships with them. This is not hard, it's time consuming. It's HARD for men, as in: 60% of men on dating apps cannot get a relationship with a woman from …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:36 AM
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I don’t understand. On Reddit everyone advises to say to the women who gained weight that you love her the way you are. Really? You do not understand how people advise in self interest? You do not understand that the same people who give this advice do not want to be broken up with, when they gain 10kg? They do not want to live in a world where they have to accept that love IS conditional and they DO have to provide something for the other person in order to be loved by them. You do not understa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:28 AM
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Men here say they would never rape. People are bad at estimating what they would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:12 AM
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However more and more women are considering coffee dates to be a low standard. What is your source on that? What you FEEL when you consume your super biased and cherry picked social media stream which exists in itself only to provoke and cause emotional engagement, not as a source of truth? But also women have consistently said they don't want to be bothered and left alone Same source as above? . Often on dating subs are even on dating profiles themselves they will not accept a high or hello as …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:07 AM
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Show us the data, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:58 AM
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Where guys go wrong us they just putting out effort for no nuts and don't even really do an analysis of how much untill their burnt out and frustrated. Men need to set a baseline exchange rate and make sure women are sticking to it. If you burn out and get frustrated, you are dating outside your league. Date within your league, and she will exchange sex for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:55 AM
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Why do you care what other men want to put up with? Just like no woman should've to tolerate men with ED Enjoy getting older and hoping women will tolerate you with your ED.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:52 AM
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Men are equally effected by trusting attractive people, while they make others jump through hoops to prove it. That is the human condition. Get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:49 AM
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Either both people should he traditional, or the woman should let the man also be modern, but expecting only one side to be traditional either way is unfair. Modern women do not expect men to provide for them. They have their own jobs or careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:48 AM
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Do you think it should be mandatory No. It should be optional. People want to live the life they make up in their head.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:43 AM
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Imagine, some men even do have female friends they are not in the friendzone with, but just regular friends with, and who they do not want to use to get to know other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:42 AM
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Women call looksmaxxers incels I am looksmaxxing. Never been called an incel, because i am not an incel. Incels get called incels, regardless of if they looksmaxx or not. According to studies it works Care to show me those studies? If oyu are right, i owe you an apology. Most male looksmaxxing comes down to discipline, not financial investment. Most? Gym membership, supplements, protein powder, all the skincare products, going to the barber/hairdresser regularly, clothing & shoes, accessoires an…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:34 AM
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Of course we never stop evolving. That is why i said "Today, we are as far from our behavior in our evolutionary past as we have ever been". All of our past up until the last couple of thousands of years has been more similar, with regards to how mating went. If you gathered a datapoint regarding mating behavior every 100 years and then did a Non-metric Multidimensional Scaling graph on it, you would see all the datapoints clumb up pretty thightly, except for the datapoints for the last couple o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:23 AM
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less than they think they deserve Foreveralone guys are neither average nor do they have a realistic idea of what they deserve/should be able to get. Ask yourself - would you really want to commit to dating someone if you knew they were only settling for you? If you define settling as accepting someone who is less ideal than you dreamt of all your life, then we are all settling and the answer is yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:09 AM
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do everything but kiss. While single girls will reject quickly, Sample size 20?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:05 PM
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There's a substantial number of men who are adamant that Zendaya is unattractive and looks like a man No there isn't. Picking up 100 comments on an instagram post is not a substantial amount of men, it's not representative of the general public, so you can't get to what the silent masses think about Zendaya, and it's also most likely just not true, but posted for different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:52 PM
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The average womans idea of a unattractive man is usually the average man One filters out 20% of women, the other filters out 80% of men. You just perfectly well explained why dating sucks for women. Imagine going through a world where 80% of women are unattractive to you, and you cannot compete with all other women for the 20% of men who are attractive. It's a terrible situation to be in. 80% of women are either forced to be with an unattractive man or to be the fucktoy of a man who doesn't want…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:50 PM
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Where the fuck do you see pushback against male looksmaxxing? Your ridiculous dickmaxxing is being pushed against, because it's not working and just ripping off gullible insecure men. Looksmaxxing is literally the name of the game of the 21st century. the body is THE status symbol of our time. I am literally getting the most support ever right now, for improving my body and looks. it detracts from the time he could instead be spending contributing to the economy, which is what society wants from…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:36 AM
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It's the other way round. Red pill is evo psych for dummies, mixed with ideology of angry incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:28 AM
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First off, the “state of nature” argument structure went out of fashion after like 1800 because it’s stupid. Also, it doesn’t even hold up since we’re not lions and ancient humans mostly lived in monogamy and that monogamy was mostly through arranged marriages. First off, biology doesn't go out of fashion. You cannot argue your way out of evolutionary facts. Today, we are as far from our behavior in our evolutionary past as we have ever been, and men still fight each other over access to women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:26 AM
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The vast majority of women's life's ARE worse if single. That is why 70% of women are currently in relationships with men, and many more % are looking for that and going to be in relationships in the near future, while others become single again and go looking for relationships with men. How bad should women's single life be, that being with an abusive loser who is a financial leech and general asshole, is still better than being single? How is this "fair"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:16 AM
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Preferential treatment of women "to make up for past injustices" is not equity, it's reversing the power dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:04 AM
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Women are just as lonely as men. Men are just as much in relationships as women. Only a tiny fraction of men have the traits that will get them into jail. The overwhelming majority of men will never have to worry about jail or jail time. When 2% of the male population are i prison, you don't have a 2% chance to get into prison. You likely have a 0.000x% chance to get into prison, while a tiny fraction of men have a very high chance to go to prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:02 AM
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So probably features that encourage people to be more sincere, or features that help boost women’s sense of safety or certainty in choosing to go on a date with a stranger, etc Why would the app boost women's sense of safety about going on a date with a stranger? THis is NOT safe. The app cannot make it safe or guarantee for it, so why would they make women feel more safe about it than they should? You can't make dating safe in my opinion. How would such a feature look like, in your view? I coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:13 PM
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How do gamified features make people not show up to dates and remain single this way? Swiping on apps doesn't make you not go to dates. It keeps you swiping while on the date, sure, it keeps you swiping while in a relationship, sure. But it doesn't keep people miserable and single.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:07 PM
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Yes i do have much free time on my hands. My gf is making dinner behind me, while i enjoy your salty tears.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:05 PM
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Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:02 PM
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But they don't share top tier men. They are married to them or live with them exclusively.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:01 PM
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We were conditioned to believe that women are inherently sweet, nurturing, and always looking for their one true love. Dude, you conditioned yourself by consuming a very limited type of media with a very narrow and homogeneous view of women, men, relationships, love, etc. You consumed that because you wanted this depiction of relationships. Then you are shocked how your worldview is formed by the only views you consumed and exposed yourself with. You brainwashed yourself in the face of reality. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:23 PM
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What do you mean by fair? Equality of outcome is not fairness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:06 PM
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So you do complain about how women say there are no good enough men, when they limit themselves by having those standards, AND NOT ACCEPTING YOU AS AN OPTION....
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:04 PM
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How do they care more about keeping people single and unhappy? What do they do to promote this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:59 PM
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What does "why are you rubbing me" mean in this context? I am not a native speaker and i don't suspect she was rubbing his dick while hugging.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:58 PM
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What is a female friendly feature that is in line with gender equality and discrimination views of western, feminist societes?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:54 PM
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That would require there to be waaaay more male 10s than female 10s. Do you think this is true? or how are all the female 9s and 10s together in committed relationships with male 10s?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:49 PM
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The apps have a bad reputation because of people not willing to attribute their failures to their own person. The apps are great. People just think they are deserving more than they are. Lots of men who think they deserve to have a casual sex life. Lots of women who think they deserve men committing to them, instead of just wanting sex from them. What exactly does the app do, to get a bad reputation? It's the people who treat each other in a way that has nothing to do with the app.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:42 PM
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A delightful personality will make a girl fall for him, IF HE FUCKING TALKS TO WOMEN (who are on his level, regarding mate value).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:38 PM
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But men and women don't agree on how to rate me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:16 PM
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Apps profit of the surplus of men who think they can increase their chances by paying. But in the end, they pay because people DO get relationships and casual sex from the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:14 PM
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But happy couples lead to people wanting to do the same. Happy success stories off of dating apps are what keeps generating return customers and people who want that success too. If nobody would have success, nobody would use the apps. Most new relationships start online. Part of that is from dating apps. Dating apps work. But when there are 70% men and 30% women, most of the men cannot, mathematically, pair off with a woman from the apps. There is no ill intent from the apps. That is just math.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:13 PM
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Alright, so the male 10s and female 10s are off the market then, or would just date each other if single. Who are the female 9s settling for? You see how this game plays out. There are no female 2s who can settle for male 4s. The male 4s are with female 4s, because that is the best both can get and nobody needs to date a 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:11 PM
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How is it not female friendly when they take the money from men instead of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:59 PM
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Reddit's r/truerateme has a vastly different view on the distribution of people on the scale. https://imgur.com/true-rate-me-mens-rating-guide-soZ3OuP And you will find as many different views on that as there are people. So why are we so confident, when we talk about a 6, that we all know what the commenter means? It's absolutely subjective and not fixed on anything. People can't even agree on what an average man looks like. People are notoriously bad at judging themselves. Most people put them…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:51 PM
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When women rate a man an average of 6 and men rate him an 8, who is right about how attractive that man is? I never said that they have the same scale of attractiveness, I said they share the same rating system. Using the same scale, doesn't mean that there are the same amounts of 8s in both sexes. It just means the scale goes from 1 to 10 in both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:46 PM
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It doesn't reduce social value. It's yellow flag that signals: this is highly indicative of her being lower mate value than you. You should double and triple check her value compared to yours and her motivation for showing direct signs of sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:42 PM
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I played videogames religiously from 8 to 36 years old. Main hobby, several hours daily. I don't even think that this is a healthy hobby for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:53 PM
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Every man is competition. Some for me, some for other men. Getting an increasingly uneven population size of men and women for the respective dating demographics definitely leads to problems. That doesn't lead me to any political stance though. There is an immigration problem regardless of sex. But the bulk of those immigrants don't play in my dating arena.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:43 PM
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And where do you get that men and women have the same distribution of attractiveness? And who is right about male attractiveness: men or women? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:29 PM
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Of course it's inconsistent. Everyone defines the scale differently and no majority agrees on how many % of the population are 10s. What is your position? How many % of the population are 10s in men and in women respectively?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:27 PM
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What is an inappropriate moment for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:25 PM
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Do you mean if men can be friends with women without WANTING to fuck them sooner or later? No. Unless they didn't choose that friend themselves and it's just a "part of the group" friend. Are there exceptions? Sure, a few. Can they be friends without actually fucking? Sure. I don't care if friends of my gf WANT to fuck her. And if you care about if others want to fuck your SO, you should have a look at yourself and the trust that you have in your SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:23 PM
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“Senior year, Jim fixed up a Mustang with his dad over the summer and then Jenny wanted to date him, the key to finding a girlfriend is getting a Mustang” said by a 30 year old Red Piller on Reddit 12 years later It absolutely is like that. Most of the autists who post here seem to have stopped having any meaningful social contacts after highschool and they still use highschool-esque dynamics in their thinking and examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:08 PM
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So a 5 would be better than 50% an 8 would be better than 80% etc. That is not how the scale is defined.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:06 PM
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How do you know there are equal number of male 7s and female 7s?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:05 PM
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Is the whole idea of a scale not to be a bell curve? So 5s are the most common, 0s and 10s are the least common? No, there was never any agreement on what the 1-10 scale looks like. Also, even if it should be a bell curve, there is no reason that it's centered on 5 (or 5.5). And there is no reason to assume that women and men are centered on the same value. It's very possible that women have a mean of their distribution that is higher than that of men. Nobody agrees upon how rare, what percentag…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:04 PM
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There is no definition of what a 7 is. Take it as 70th percentile of average rated attractiveness by 10000 judges. Then, 7s do mate with 7s on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:01 PM
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My reality is fact based, on the total population, not some biased bartender experience on a biased subsample. You can try to attack the facts instead of my person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:54 AM
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1988 is not the era that "70% of people are in relationships" fact is from. That is today. Current couples in their 30s who mostly met online.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:54 AM
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It's even higher for men and women in their 30s. I am 40, i exclusively dated via online dating in the last years. Current gf is from Bumble. You don't know what you are talking about. That high percentage of couples IS current era with current dating types and methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:52 AM
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United States - 74.1% New Zealand - 71.6% Australia - 70.4% United Kingdom - 68.4% Greece - 67.4% Mexico - 66.7% Canada - 65.7% Spain - 65.4% Germany - 64.9% Chile - 64.5% Finland - 64.1% Ireland - 63.7% Argentina - 63.1% Russia - 62.5% Norway - 62.1% France - 61.9% Netherlands - 61.2% Italy - 60.7% Belgium - 60.5% Turkey - 60.3% Portugal - 59.8% Brazil - 59.6% South Africa - 59.3% Sweden - 58.9% Austria - 58.3% Japan - 57.9% South Korea - 57.6% Denmark - 56.8% Switzerland - 56.2% Israel - 55.9%…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:50 AM
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THE HEART SAYS CHAD? are you fucking serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:48 AM
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Of course not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:47 AM
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Why do you think sex happens rarely? Average is 2-3 times per week
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:47 AM
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Who do female 10s settle for?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:45 AM
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Point being, shit being old doesn't mean shit is wrong. Try pulling recent research that shows things have changed, regarding homogamy and preferneces for similarity. Or try making an argument for why things have changed. As far as i see it, all things point to people becoming MORE similar in relationships, concerning the typical homogamy traits. Hypergamy regarding education and earning is in decline in the West. Age gaps have shrunk to a pretty stable all-time-low. From 2024: https://www.cambr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 01:05 PM
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Ah right, the 70% of women and men who are in committed relationships right now are all (with) " the same sporty, outgoing, extroverted, frat types" Not. Your fucking experience as a bartender doesn't capture reality. Most men are overweight. At least half of men are not extraverted to any meaningful degree, and basically nobody in a realtionship is a frat-type. Yet, they all have women who are so into them, that they want to spend their lives with them. I never saw a sorority girl have a thing …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:25 PM
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I'm curious if you think guys being hung up on high n-count women being "used goods" have the Madonna Whore complex though No that is something completely different. Ok then I'm talking about the phenomenon of seeing people as just for sex and seeing them as respected long term partner material. That is of course not gendered. Short term relationship (sexual nature) and long term relationship have different requirements for partners, in men and women. Then there is also the topic of relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:14 AM
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yes, most people on this board wrongly treat the complex as if it's the standard thinking of men. No, it's a rare condition. it is very much gendered: Freud argued that the Madonna–whore complex was caused by a split between the affectionate and the sexual currents in male desire.\5]) Oedipal and castration anxiety fears prohibit the affection felt for past incestuous objects from being attached to women who are sensually desired: "The whole sphere of love in such persons remains divided in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:21 AM
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<image> Also, stated preferences vs revealed preferences regarding education and earning potential/wealth shows, that men undererstimate and women overestimate the importance of these traits in a potential partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:12 AM
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The madonna-whore complex is not common or normal. It has nothing to do with power. Please don't use an established term for something completely different. Your analysis of some men's dating issues doesn't require you to use the madonna-whore complex. Losing attraction to a long term partner is not the madonna-whore complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:00 AM
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What increases how good you are in bed more? A ONS with a new sex partner, or the 501th time of having sex with your long term relationship partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 08:02 AM
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I've always had difficulty reading and connecting with people. Ah classic. You try to get from an average value of the population to what you can expect for the individual, that is not representative of that population. It's pointless, dude. You are you. Others join a book club and leave with 5 friends. You can join 10 book clubs and leave with 0. There is no way to get a basic idea of the amount of time you will need to put in. If people don't like you and you don't like talking to people, it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:42 AM
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How do you determine if someone has no options, or if someone doesn't do anything to have options?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:20 AM
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How come introverted men seem less attractive to women than extroverted men? <image> It's a trade-off. Extraversion is preferred, but introversion has other reproductive advantages, that leads to it being present in a stable and pretty even balance, or rather distribution. Please don't think of extra-intro as a dichotomy but as a spectrum, with most people falling in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:17 AM
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Where is that threshold. Who is too undesirable to date? Or is it rather, that you define it in reverse: everyone who doesn't date is too undesirable. You see how that is nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:41 PM
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Is asking out in person the same as asking for number, instagram, etc. in person, but then asking out via online channels?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:33 PM
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The majority of men ARE in dignified relationships. There are no requirements for a dignified relationship. Name ANY of those requirements and i will show you a man who is in a dignifed relationship who doesn't meet that requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:59 PM
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ADAPT.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:27 PM
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Most women who date don’t casually date men that aren’t desirable. Being successful and beautiful is rare, when you have those qualities women chase you. This fact has never changed in the entire course of civilization. Men of all desirability levels date and are in relationships. There is no magical threshold you need to get over to be date-material for women. Each level of desirability is dating their equals. Go outside, check out ugly dudes with ugly girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:24 PM
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So they also just BELIEVE they are cohabitating with their committed partner..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:10 PM
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You fantasize again: i did never say women are obligated to fuck me. Also, i am not your homie.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:09 PM
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Do you define best friend as "having the most fun with"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:06 PM
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You don't seem to feel dirty. Do you feel dirty?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:54 PM
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Who is giving dating advice for 38yo single mothers in this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:50 PM
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By having made the experience in the past. How is your partner dealing with that situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:18 PM
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A responsive sexual desire doesn't mean that someone will get turned on once someone starts physically having sex with them. Responsive sexual desire is a type of sexual desire that is typically triggered by external stimuli or the context of a particular situation rather than arising spontaneously. It often occurs in response to sexual or intimate stimuli, such as physical touch, emotional connection, or a partner's sexual advances. Unlike spontaneous sexual desire, which arises without any spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:16 PM
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You think it's reasonable to get the "ick" when a man posts on PPD about "icks" and red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:12 PM
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Then hopefully, you are not in a relationship with a person who wants to have sex with you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 11:43 AM
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Murder is not bad if you are the good guys and the dead ones are the bad guys. Absurd way of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 11:31 AM
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No, i would not marry someone whom i don't go to if i want to hang out and have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:35 AM
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Cuckolds do get something out of their wives having sex with others. They often are the ones making the wives do that in the first place. That is hardly a "loving someone more" piece of evidence. It's about the cuckolds own sexual pleasure and not about love.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:31 AM
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I'm of the opinion that very few women are attracted to total peace in a relationship. It kind of makes sense. You are wrong. The majority of women are securely attached and do not crave chaos and drama in their relationship. They crave stability, peace, harmony. It might be your own attachment style that talks here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:29 AM
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Oh yes, make something harder to get that already is on the decline regarding being wanted at all. That totally solves something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:25 AM
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The error you make is to think that women are choosing in relationships and that all women could choose a top % man. People pair off into relationships with their equals. The top 10% of men does so with the top 10% of women, the bottom 10% of women does so with the bottom 10% of men. Mutual mate choice. Assortative mating. "but...but.. all women just date Chad", no, 63% of young women are in committed relationships, 70%+ of women 30-45yo are in committed relationships. Unless there are 63-70% Ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:20 AM
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What is morally bad is subjective. Niceguys would claim that a guy is morally bad if he is accepting to possibly bother a woman by his advances.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:59 AM
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The incels don't have a problem with most women wanting good guys. It's that they have a problem with criminals being wanted by women over nice guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:54 AM
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That is why i am broadening the OP to include the types of desires and the "agreeing to start sexual activities to get into the mood".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:52 AM
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see, this is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:50 AM
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"bad men" are men who talk to women when and where they want, and don't ask if it's okay if they touch their hand. It's fucking nice guys who complain about bad men. To them, everyone who isn't a door mat is a bad man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:34 PM
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Yes i broadened the topic because OP appears to not know about the types of desire. I am not strawmanning anything. I don't care what others have argued. you are dealing with my posts. Don't make me answer to what others have said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:32 PM
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You aren ot replying to the Op but to me though. Was that an error?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:44 PM
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THe point is to get aroused after starting sexual activity. BEFORE penetration. If arousal doesn't happen, don't progress to penetration. Yes, rejection after having started foreplay will hurt. This is a downside, compared to getting rejected from the start. But overall, if this leads to sex from time to time or most of the time, the greater downside of later rejection is well worth it. Especially because there was a willingness to try. Regularly NOT engaging in sexual activity is destroying int…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:38 PM
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Dude, it's not your inability to internalize gendered behavior. Your autism in itself is the turnoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:43 PM
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then argue with foreplay in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:10 PM
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Not talking about penetration. You should read the fucking source.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:52 PM
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THE INTERNET DOESN'T BREED ANYTHING. It's a bunch of individuals acting in a wide range of different ways that coincide in their own interests and concerns and who don't spend even 30 seconds of their life thinking about "breeding new avenues of propaganda".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:46 PM
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I don't need an argument to reject your fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:38 AM
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You are degrading women who enjoy anal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:35 AM
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That you have no idea about this just became apparent. What is the largest object you can put in your ass without pain?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:40 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:37 AM
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OK? this changes nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:36 AM
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You're a man. You're trying to explain why anal sex is good for women but I've yet to see men argue this hard for pegging. Because they are afraid to come off as gay. Because they don't like the switch of roles. Because there is stigma around it. Because they are not used to get penetrated. Multiple reasons. Anal sex would actually be much more fun for you because you have a prostate. You keep repeating it, but it's not true. I have tried everything, from prostate vibrators, dildos, fingers, any…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:36 AM
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If arousal doesn't happen, the partner can still stop the process. THe point is to give it a chance to get aroused by starting the sexual process, instead of waiting until there is spontaneous desire in both partners. Dead bedrooms come from people waiting until both are spontaneously in the mood. Which happens rarely, if one partner is high in responsive desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:04 AM
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The study does not look at any trait that is linked to being a terrible person, other than aggression. So why is the study relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:02 AM
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I am using the wording of the commenter who claimed that women are more kinky. What they obviously meant was "on average". Science class? You just argued "there are exceptions" as if that would make it not true that women on average are less kinky. Of course there are exceptions. That is why we use means instead of anecdotes of singular women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:27 AM
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What is the majority of your point? That women will resent their men? I just argued that they will get aroused and want to have sex once they started. SO all of your point is dealt with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:23 AM
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It would have really helped to introduce the concepts of spontaneous desire and responsive desire for this discussion. Spontaneous Desire vs. Responsive Desire In the context of human sexuality, spontaneous desire and responsive desire are two distinct ways individuals may experience sexual arousal and interest. Spontaneous Desire: This is the type of sexual desire that occurs seemingly out of nowhere, without any particular trigger or stimulus. It can be thought of as a sudden, intrinsic urge t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:18 AM
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The scenario is very real. YOu just don't want to accep that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:15 AM
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other autists do
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:13 AM
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The point is, that the arousal will happen. https://drelizabethperri.com/spontaneous-and-responsive-sexual-desire/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:10 AM
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WHat do you not understand about "women as a whole"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:51 AM
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THere is no pain and domination is not the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:47 AM
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So sucking a dick is also homosexual sex? Kissing is homosexual? Having anal sex does not take away from all the trembling orgasms achieved from clitoral stimulation. You can even do it WHILE getting your ass fucked. Women have had orgasms from anal sex. They seem to greatly enjoy it. The mental stimulation of being a bad girl who gets fucked in the ass is not to be neglected. Taboo is a great stimulant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:46 AM
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She limits her options by only doing missionary. What you are sure she will try is not relevant. I'll take her seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:31 AM
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this confirms that men are more physically and verbally aggressive than women. There is nothing in it about "being terrible people" otherwise. Do you care to cite what you want to use as evidence for your claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:30 AM
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Explain to me how they differ physiologically that one experiences pain and one not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:26 AM
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of course not. do you have data on that to support that women are equally capable of being terrible people?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:23 PM
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How would you hold a man responsible? There is no name, no address, no jurisdiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:46 PM
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Women are NOT kinkier than men on the whole. What do you base that ridiculous statement on? Research on sexual behavior and preferences, including kinkiness, indicates that men, on average, report a higher interest in kinky or non-normative sexual activities compared to women. However, this finding is nuanced and can be influenced by factors like social desirability, cultural norms, and the way "kinkiness" is defined in studies. Key Findings: Interest in Kinky Activities: Surveys generally show …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:43 PM
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There is a WORLD of sex between missionary only and BDSM
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:38 PM
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Not at all. Men are way more capable of being terrible people. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:32 PM
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Research consistently shows that, on average, women tend to score higher on measures of empathy than men. This finding is supported by a range of studies across different cultures and age groups. Key Points from the Research: Self-Report Studies: Many studies use self-report questionnaires to measure empathy. Women generally report higher levels of empathy, particularly in emotional empathy (the ability to feel what others are feeling) and empathic concern (the tendency to feel concern for other…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:31 PM
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holy fuck, you have no idea how much you limit your options. Please make that clear from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:14 PM
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No, i would not be in a LTR with a woman who rejects anal sex. It's not painful if done right and if she is too ashamed or not freaky enough for that ,she is not my girl in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:10 PM
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Men use the niceguy trope as well. Because nice guys exist, and they are so unattractive, even men get the ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:04 PM
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I think you would first need to show how there were more good father figures in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:13 PM
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Marriages are a compromise of both sexes preferences, on average. Women cannot get their preferences in marriages, so we cannot deduct them from the realized marriages. Couples also form from who happens to be in their life. Just as with friends, similar age is the norm, because those are who you meet in the educational phase and in hobbies, places you hang out, etc. People are poor reporters or their own desires. That’s my point. So, you are not really into younger men, you are just poor at rep…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:09 PM
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That is not about age preferences though. You cannot go from stated preferneces vs revealed prefernecs regarding attractiveness, to the same issue regarding age. Also, who people choose in speed dating situations is hardly a good measure for who they pick for relationships. What can you go by in speed dating, except looks, job and a sentence about passions? If there is no other info, you pick the best of the available info and hope that the traits you really value are there too. No reason to pic…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:42 AM
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What do you think it's like for men? You think most of their matches are high quality matches? More matchse = higher chance to have a quality match in them. If it's really 1 in 100, then this takes a woman considerably less time to find than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:28 AM
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Behavioral studies? Like, which of these 3 men would you choose experiments? That is still just preferences, what people say they want. If you look at what people actually realize in their relationships, it's a mix of what they want and what they can get and what the other sex wants. But I’ve met women who claim they don’t want a younger man. They tend to be very conservative women who state this. So they want a man who has a nice paycheck. Why is your critique of "self-reports" not working here…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:20 AM
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What did you not get about "men in general" as opposed to "all men"? It's not weird at all that there is a spectrum of preferences and all we can talk about are averages or distributions. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:32 AM
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YOu can go to the ER after you have been date raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:24 AM
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I think what's going on is very obvious: women are incredibly paranoid and frequently suspect being "drugged" when in reality it's just the symptoms of their own voluntary alcohol/recreational drug consumption. Women live on attention. They get a lot of attention for being victims of men who spike their drinks with date rape drugs. They become heroes for bringing attention to this issue on social media. If anyone thinks that some women would not lie to get this level of attention and victim stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:21 AM
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I know there are women who will stay in abusive relationships too, and I feel for them, but honestly most women I know would rather be alone than be mistreated. That was not the question in the thread though. It was about not being able to attract anyone. You can be single and still enjoy casual sex and being desired by men. Ask women who have never been desired by any man, if they want an abusive relationship, and you will get similar responses. And secondly, "most women i know" is not the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:05 AM
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But if you tell men: "don't be nice and friendly. Take what you want, even if it risks offending or bothering someone." They will respond with: but that is not who i am! I can't fake being the assertive guy who is confident and competitive. I want to be loved for me, not for faking an attractive personality/masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:51 AM
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You should not mix up what love is with what relationships are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:37 AM
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Those men just want to highlight the features where they think they differ from other men and are unnoticed for them. Traits they think women want and don't understand why they are not attractive to women for. SO they think it must be because those traits go unnoticed. That's why they are advertised. But obviously it's not the issue of women not noticing those qualities, it's that they notice the stuff that makes those men unattractive enough, so no amount of "good qualities" this man posesses c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:35 AM
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You seem to be high on feminist propaganda and wishful thinking. They brag about her income/titles/achievements basically the same way women do with men NEVER. In my 40 years on this planet, i have never heard a man brag about his woman in any way related to those achievments. It's ridiculous to think that. <image> You see this? Postgrad women are less desirable than college level educated women. Women want men who make more, are better educated and have higher status. Men do want the opposite. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:15 AM
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Men on this board "demonize" women over 30 so much, because they can. They are not as attracted to them as to younger women, so they feel in a position of power. It doesn't hurt them as much to "reject" them. Also, men in general don't like older women than themselves and the men here are mostly <30yo. To them, 30+ women are no go area, until they become 30+ themselves. It's ridiculous to think, that a majority of men in their late 30s to early 40s would reject women in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:57 AM
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Your argument is wrong. Just because someone can get into a relationship if he is powerful enough, doesn't mean that someone who is average powerful is not getting into a relationship because of his personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:33 AM
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In general I think a lot of men’s internal issues in relationships stem from the fact their hypergamy and need to be dominant are in conflict. Hypergamy in men is not about things they get in conflict with regarding their own value. Men don't pick women who are better at "being men" then they are. (at least on average). And "being men" is meant in a way where their ego could be hurt by losing a competition in this field. Men who want to earn more do not pick a woman who earns more becuase of "we…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:50 AM
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Who the fuck are you having sex with, that you get blamed for these things? Is this just in your head? Is this again some dude with body dysmorphia imagining how women ridicule him for a small penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:59 PM
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You are the pedantic one, "well, overweight spans a broad category..." OP DOESN'T LIKE FAT WOMEN. Period. It's absolutely besides the point i was making, how fat exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:45 PM
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You think you are an average guy? Is it just Chads and average guys? Chads are everything, average guys are nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:38 PM
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Which is largely skewed by boomers, gen X, and older millennials when standards and even cultural mores were different. The dynamics are much different with Gen Z, with many studies showing younger men checking out of the dating market for lack of success. GenZ is not at an age yet ,where the majority wants a committed relationship. People who are in their 30s now are 70%+ in committed relationships. About the same will be true when GenZ is in their 30s. You aregument is like: Gen Alpha is 99% s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:15 AM
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This being said, I cannot think of many things more pathetic than a woman who wants to be in a serious relationship, but wastes large amounts of her time, energy, and emotions on a man who does not want one. Because you lack basic understandings of human psychology. It's not pathetic, it has an underlying cause that those people cannot escape. You should be understanding of the issue and be able to provide help in guiding people to understand their inner workings, their childhood attachment issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:39 AM
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Where exactly do you get the idea from, that this is directed at MEN? As far as i understand, the same rule apply to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:08 AM
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You are the equivalent of a boomer who puts their questions for google into a facebook post, because they are not capable of using modern technology. This is a question for ChatGPT, not for PPD. Just the headline is enough to get a better answer than anything here comes up with. The term "henpecked" is historically and culturally specific, reflecting traditional gender roles where men were expected to be dominant in the household, while women were often seen as subordinate. The concept of a "hen…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:46 AM
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The question should now be, can we construct a society where the low-tier men, which is the majority, are inculcated from a young age to not want relationships with women? That they can derive as much satisfaction from male friendships and their kin, while also satisfying their sexual urges with porn or whatever the future has in store (AI)? You don't know who is a low tier man from young age. A majority of men are in relationships with women by the time people overwhelmingly want to have commit…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:38 AM
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Slut shaming is a mainly female on female tool to keep the price of sex high. It's useful and in the interest of all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:15 AM
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There is no MALE loneliness epidemic. Women are just as lonely as men. Gender ratio has nothing to do with loneliness epidemic. You seem to mix up being single and being lonely. Get your terms straight. You claim SO MANY MEN struggle to find one woman who likes them back. How many are so many? Pew study is only about CURRENTLY being in a committed relationship. And it says that half of the single men do not even want to be in a relationship at the current time. It says nothing about how much the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:12 AM
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If anything, men should stop marrying women who treat them like dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:00 AM
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You should make an effortt to distinguish the two. If you tell me about an overweight woman, i do not have an obese woman in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:37 AM
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Yeah, men, on average, are overestimating their attractiveness more than women. Yet, we constantly read how women are delusional about their value and that is the cause of them not finding a partner. Yet, we can very clearly see, that men suffer from this more, yet nobody talks about how this is the reason men are not finding a partner. And OF COURSE are men overestimating their attractiveness. Because it's evolutionarily beneficial. Just as with the male sexual interest overperception bias, mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:37 AM
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No, similarity between partners increases over the last decades. Hypergamy decreases. Homogamy increases.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:27 AM
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Does it change YOUR commitment, relationship stability, etc? Are you becoming promiscuous because it's destigmatized now?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:25 AM
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Nobody is removing all value and meaning from sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:23 AM
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First off, when you completely destigmatize promiscuity, you’re basically saying that all relationships are equal, No, you don't. Destigmatizing sex work also doesn't mean all jobs are equal. When promiscuity is normalized, it can cheapen the idea of relationships and make it harder for people to form deep, meaningful connections. No, it's the opposite. Deep meaningful connections are more valuable against the contrast of having shallow meaningless sexual relationships with random people. If eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:20 AM
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Overweight is pretty well defined as 25< BMI >30
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:31 PM
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Being pumped into believing feelings are mutual and a relationship is starting only to be dumped the next day is not even comparable to rejections. It is traumatising I don't think you understand pumped and dumped correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 11:33 AM
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Understanding the emotional state of others is different from acting on that. Read the wiki article on empathy if you don't understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:55 AM
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Loyalty is for cowards. Loyalty means sticking to/defending the person/ogranization you are loyal to, NO MATTER WHAT. There is nothing virtuous in that. It's stupid. Situations change, the people you are loyal to are wrong or do horrible things. There is no point in being loyal to them if there is no agreement with their actions. At which point it's not loyalty but agreeing with them and their actions. Loyalty in relationships refers to a steadfast commitment and unwavering support for someone, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:27 AM
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This is common knowledge. Marrying up only means with respect to some trait (in the case of hypergamy, that is social status/education). People don't date up in overall value. As men and women put different weights on different traits, this balance of overall value happens naturally in couples who have different trait expressions. Still, most couples are very similar in all lof their trait expressions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:03 AM
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And? He doesn't have to stay as her friend He is a free human. Absolutely. But his goal is not to not be a friend anymore, but to hurt her in the process. You are making a mountain out of a molehill YOU are making the mountain out of the molehill. I just pointed to OP and showed him that i see what he is doing there and that we are not supporting him in his crusade to hurt the woman who rejected him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:49 AM
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Why would you be pursued for a relationship by 5 women who are on your level, but another man not? Simple stats. There are about equal numbers of men and women on all desirability levels regarding a relationship. And if not equal in value, then at least equal numbers when rank-ordered. The higher up you are in your value, the fewer women who are on your level, but the same amount of competitors per woman. YOu might be super desirable, but there are other super desirable guys just like you, and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:28 AM
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Maybe i am weird in this regard, but i have never recognized a wedding band on the hand of a woman. If she doesn't have a man next to her, she is game. If she does have a man next to her, it's still worth asking if she is single or in an open relationship. Mate copying is about how valuable women see you as a man with a partner. It does not mean that women will throw themselves at you. And it depends on the value of your partner. A 4/10 guy with his 4/10 wife is not leading to this guy getting l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:07 AM
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You don't get it. Everyone knows nobody is entitled to anything. Common sense, as you say. They have a friendship. This is established. If he doesn't treat her as a friend anymore, this will hurt her. He doensn't want to just end the friendship. He wants to make her experience how it is, when he doesn't do all the things that he previously did in the friendship. He wants to make her suffer from this rejection as a friend. He could just say: i don't want to be friends anymore. But that is not his…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 08:53 AM
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Both men and women tend, on average, to begin dating their life partner between these ages. CURRENTLY. This has changed a lot over the past decades. <image> Here's an overview of the key reasons: 1. Increased Education and Career Focus Educational Attainment: Over the past century, there has been a significant increase in the number of individuals pursuing higher education. College and postgraduate studies often delay entry into the workforce, and by extension, delay the pursuit of long-term rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 08:40 AM
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women gatekeep sex excessively to most under-7 guys but will gatekeep less if they have some experience, yet can't get it because of said gatekeeping. ~70% of men have regular sex. How many men are 7+? 15%?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 08:34 AM
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he made it clear in another thread, that he is not goign to date overweight women. But he expects women to want to date him..
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 08:33 AM
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I did not read any of the other comments and i frankly don't care how others engage with the topic. It's the typical last line of defense of people here "if a woman would have said it you would have reacted differently". No, i would not have. I have been banned 3 times from this sub for harshly telling women they are the problem and i am banned permanently on basically ALL dating advice subreddits for attacking women for their stupid ideas about dating. I have not posted an uplifting comment eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 08:18 AM
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weakly is objectively defined in correlation statistics. Attractiveness is partly subjective for the individual. An attractiveness rating by a representative group of hundreds of judges is as close to objective as you can get. Way more objective than your God WheatWaffles and his amateurish attempts to rate people objectively. But somehow you don't care about attractiveness being subjective, when Wheatwaffles does it, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:20 AM
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Do you accept that physical attractiveness only weakly correlates with number of lifetime sexual partners? What does that say about black pill fatalism about attractiveness being THE main thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:07 AM
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If women start talking about their problems and men chimed in they'd be frowned upon at best that's why some women centered subs ban men from participating. That is the same issue of identity politics. It also has no basis in reality. Do you think a male gynecologist is unqualified for hte job because he doesn't have a vagina and doesn't know what it's like to be a woman? Studies are pretty much always conduced in a biased way by some guy that wants to prove a point and will look at the data fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:51 AM
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His story is that he fell for his best female friend and she rejected him but he can't overcome his love sickness. This post is clearly part of his ongoing battle with a hurt ego and frustration about rejections by women all his life. Some kind of payback, by the powerless. He wants to hurt her, show her and by extension all women who rejected him, by somehow rejecting them for "friendship", "effort", "respect", anything that he thinks they might want or expect from him. he wants to take it away…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:35 AM
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What is the point of being pursued by lots of people because you have a high dating market value, when 99% of those people are so far below you in dating market value ,that they are not suitable for a relationship partner? The higher up on the ladder you are, the fewer people there are on your level. WHen you are a 1 in 200 in mating value, you will have to swipe at least 200 profiles before you find someone that is at your value, that is before you check for any other compatibility. Or compare …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:22 AM
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When talking dating dynamics gendered opinions matter because it means your opinion was informed by lived experiences That is the whole problem with identity politics. Just because you belong to the same label doesn't mean you have the same experience as others who belong to the label. You are not more qualified in any way shape or form to talk about "men's dating issues", than any other person. We all need to look at data and a representative collection of experiences and anecdotes to get a pic…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 06:39 PM
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perspective of a guy who never felt how it is to be confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:10 PM
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who would have thought
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 09:10 AM
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So you want to know if benevolent sexism is working? Yes. Even on feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:14 AM
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No, good for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:02 AM
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I am 5'9. I have always been in relationships, recently started having lots of casual sex on top of it. My height never stopped me from being attractive to very attractive women. If your height is your worst feature, it's your self-esteem that is holding you back.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:47 AM
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and i told you that you wrongly accuse me. i would not have judged him for giving up on dating apps. This directly contradicts your admission that your advice won't work for me because I'm handicapped. I didn't know your situation when i typed this. That is why there is an EDIT below. You've just conceded the point that a man's attractiveness is (mostly) genetically predetermined, which was the thesis of my whole argument. The ceiling of physical attractiveness, of course. But how much of your p…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:28 AM
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Are you changing out of your niceguy mentality? Is this more than a hurt response to your best female friend not wanting to fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:15 AM
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5'9 is not holding you back. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 05:46 PM
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<image> Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 05:44 PM
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I actually don’t know where the idea that passionate, lovey-dovey or romantic men were ‘feminine’ came about because in my head, adoring women to the point of obsession is masculine. This is probably the most important sentence in the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 05:06 PM
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<image> No.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 04:53 PM
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We all know this would apply to majority of men out there. Is anyone here really in a relationship where the woman uses access to sex to get her way? Is there a female equivalent to this? Well, libido is different for each individual. There are relationships where the woman has the higher libidio, so the man is in the power position and holds the carrot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 04:46 PM
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And why are they single? Because they have dad bods? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:49 AM
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Your study was done by a bunch of feminist scholars who settled out to glorify feminism What is your evidence for that? Which one of the authors is a feminist scholar and why? The title is a summary of the results, not a mission goal. Titles are formulated after the study has finished and the results have been analyzed. Would a study done by men's rights activists about feminism be also bad science? Who can do a study about feminism wihtout it being bad science? Or is it always bad sciencen when…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:47 AM
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<image> 69% in the Pew study, 70% in the GSS data.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:39 AM
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again, stop whining and you won't be ridiculed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:39 AM
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70% is a "singular point in time" statistic. Over a 5-year timeframe, it's more like 85% of people have been in relationships at some point during that span. Nearly everyone who wants to be in a relationship, will be at some point in their life. There is no large portion of men who do not meet the requirements to be in a relationship. Second, that number also accounts for different generations with different morals and beliefs. I would be more interested in seeing the 20-39 year old's stats. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:38 AM
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Humans have mutual mate choice. Unless you want to be reduce to a fuck toy that gets discarded after a night, you need to prove to men that you are equally desirable partners to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:27 AM
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The unfit stems from the situation as single parents, not from the qualities of the woman. Single parents are not the best parents. Sex is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:25 AM
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Ah, the classic socially inept guy with no friends or social life, who wants to get confirmation that trying to engage with women in real life is actually a bad idea and he should stick to swiping on OLD with zero success, because the alternative is hated by women and doesn't give more success than 0 anyway. "Where do you even meet women" - every OP ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:07 AM
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From my experience, consistent feminists are man haters and asshole personalities. Yes, that is MY EXPERIENCE. I didn't say "feminists on average are man haters". The study you linked, which i already had read for another thread a couple of weeks ago, talks about averages but acknowledges that there are man hating feminists of course. What i said is, that all the feminists i encountered (==my experience) are man haters. Of course, my sample is biased because it's the radical man hating variety o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:39 AM
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This leaves majority of men to comb through the remaining 16% of women who are open to dad bods and skinny men. You should touch grass man. 70% of men are in relationships. 70% of men are overweight or obese. Barely anyone is muscular and lean, yet basically everyone is relationship material. What one is most attracted to is not what one requires as a baseline to consider sex or relationships. If you asked men what they are most attracted to, they'd say 22yo, attractive and slim women. Which is …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:22 AM
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Approaching in real life is obsolete How so? It still works. It is still the preferred way women want to meet men. It's still the best way to present a more holistic view to women, rather than being reduced to a set of pictues and prompts. It offers more men, who are not conventionally attractive on pictures, a way to shine. It opens up a very large pool of women who are not on dating apps. Also, it is not dying out. The fewer men who do it, the better it gets for those who choose to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:10 AM
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I realized you can't really converse into "chemistry" no matter how much she likes you "as a person", attraction it either was or it wasn't there. THat is your personal experience with a limited amount of cases. If you look at the larger picture, attraction can grow for women, when they get to know men. Attractiveness is the sum of a lot of traits, including physical attractiveness. Your sum of traits is just not attractive enough for the women in your life for a romantic relationship. Doesn't m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 09:53 AM
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SHe doesn't even explain how this could be seen as a compliment or how she meant it to be a compliment. The part about marriage is irrelevant. "you are not someone i would have casual sex with" is not a compliment, no matter how you turn it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 09:44 AM
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Your problem is that you want to appeal to everyone, instead of being who you want to be and be attractive for a niche group which finds that attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 08:51 AM
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Of course, for most women the experience is that 99% of men who approach them just want sex. That is just how it plays out, even when 85% of men want a relationship. It has nothing to do with the woman, but with the high requirements regarding a relationship partner and the low requirements regarding casual sex partner. For women, this is exhausting, because on average, they want to find the 1% in the men who approach them, who see them as relationship material. Giving them the impression that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 08:42 AM
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Depression doesn't make people go to protests and scream death to conservatives or anything like that. We are talking about different mental health cases and it's stilll a very loud very tiny minority. But this is constantly confirmed by women, see man/bear debate? It is not. Women love men. THe overwhelming majority of them (70%) is in relationships with men currently. Most of the rest will be in the future or has been in the past, is generally open to loving men. The man/bear debate is also ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 08:23 AM
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If you use dating apps, you're wasting your time. If you don't use dating apps, you're not even trying. Never said that. I say the opposite. Only use dating apps if you get results from it that lead you to having regular dates. Otherwise, do not use them at all. If you cold approach, you're harassing women who have no interest in you. If you don't cold approach, you're a coward. I do not care about harassing women at all, if "harassing" is defined by cold approaching and starting a conversation.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 07:57 AM
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Research on attachment styles typically categorizes people into four main types: secure, anxious-preoccupied, dismissive-avoidant, and fearful-avoidant. "Secure attachment" is characterized by comfort with intimacy and independence. Percentage of Securely Attached Individuals: Recent studies suggest that approximately 50-60% of people in Western populations, such as the United States and Europe, exhibit a secure attachment style. This percentage has remained relatively consistent over time. Evid…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 07:32 AM
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What is the argument you want to make that would be in contrast to what i said?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 07:12 AM
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Why are women surprised that men ask mostly for physical intimacy only, when emotional vulnerability quite often results in judgement, ridiculing, or rejection? Women are not surprised. Male interest in only physical intimacy with most women they meet is a fact that was always true. Nothing is surprising about that. It's expected. But the reason for it is not that men fear judgment, ridiculing or rejection. That is a you issue, but you also likely do not get the physical intimacy side of things.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:59 AM
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Did this work for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:21 PM
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Apex fallacy. Dude, i just took the very slim signs i picked up of you in this thread. Turns out, you really have a bunch of mental health issues and being a people pleaser IS a problem for you. <image> Your issue is, that you think you need to make it right for everyone, but you can't. They are never pleased with you. You fear and think that even existting is an unbearable thing for women around you. . Keep going to therapy but don't think that any relevant number of men think the way you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:06 PM
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If that makes you sleep well at night. Go die for your country and think about this being the best solution for your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:00 PM
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I don't advise anyone to use online dating if they get less than 1 match a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:53 AM
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i am German. Ukrainian women are in my online dating apps, looking for someone to fuck them while their men defend hte country and get mauled. GG
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:48 AM
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Immaturity is the inability to use one's intellect without the guidance of another. This immaturity is self-inflicted if the cause of it is not a lack of understanding but a lack of determination and courage to make use of it without the guidance of another.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:46 AM
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As a man in the modern world you are constantly told that you are a burden, that you make people uncomfortable by doing nothing at all, it's no surprise this has an effect on the mental health of boys and men, although men are largely doing pretty well compared to modern women still. Conservatives tell progressives they are the cause of societal collapse and loss of family values etc. etc. all the time. You think progressives want to check out of society and suffer from mental health issues for …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:38 AM
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But we are now attempting to live in a violence-less world. We are rejecting men's domination over women, rightfully so. The issue is, I do not believe that this leaves us with "egalitarianism", it leaves us with women's power. And doesn't that work wonderfully? Now women can offer their sex at market value. We are in a free market situation. Cartels (slut shaming) that keep the price high have been abolished. Most sex is given out for free in exchange for sex/attention/validation. What you can …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:50 AM
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Can we stop mechanically attributing malice to men? You attribute malice to those commenters.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:40 AM
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It has always been the norm. I said the degree to which hypergamy is found is decreasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:24 AM
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All traits are factored in.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:23 AM
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I agree with it and made a point of arguments involving children often being nonsense, just trying to get some automatic moral upper hand to win a factural discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:22 AM
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Did you read the definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:21 AM
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but I once read a study you mean a social media post with no source that you barely remember and are only left with a feeling that you now fill with a number that feels good in your worldview?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 08:16 AM
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an argument rarely gets better when people involve children. You did a good job!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 08:14 AM
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"give more men some chance instead of being so closed off to all of them" That is behind every other thread in this sub. Subtle manipulation so women pick losers in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 08:11 AM
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I think women can probably tell within a few hours (sometimes minutes) of conversation if a guy is a danger to them. Are you not listening to true crime podcasts? Women can tell nothing. That is the main motivation behind consuming true crime stuff: being prepared to not become a victim, because they are not capable to detect those threats as a baseline.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 08:08 AM
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Ah, now i get it! So it's easier for a predator to prey on a target that suspects him to be a predator and treats him like a predator, being super cautious, then for him to prey on a trusting, friendly, inviting target, which can not even imagine that there are predators out there to get them? Being on guard and treating everything as a potential threat is the thing that really threatens your safety from the threat you know and prepare against. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 08:05 AM
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You are probably smart enough to be able to read the wiki article and educate yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:35 AM
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Why did you swipe for 2 years when you never got a match?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:19 AM
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Women love sex and relationships just as much as males do Wrong. Especially casual sex/FWB situations are WAAAAAAAAAAAAY less requested by women. Have you seen what men do when they do not need women for their sexuality? Gay men have the same sexuality in terms of what they want and regarding their libido as heterosexual men. All's you gotta do is find a woman that is game, and not be a total creep and you're in! It's literally that simple. Supply and demand do not make it feasible for most men …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:18 AM
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Stop thinking in black and white terms. If you can do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:10 AM
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can you draw a graph of the relationship of wealth status and career status to importance for women in your head or in MsPaint? You will see what OP means and that he is not contradicting himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:09 AM
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Dude, it's even in the wiki on hypergamy. Hypergamy is decreasing in the West. Assortative mating is happening in ever tighter bounds. Age gaps are decreasing. People in couples are more and more similar. The manosphere has no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:07 AM
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No that's not rly what it means, it doesnt indicate proportions. Technically you are right. What percentage are feminists putting into the "good ones" basket, what do you think? Do you assume all women are good ? I don't categorize people into good or bad. I assume women show the same distribution as men, for whatever the basis of rating is. I have no idea what percentage of people are good or bad. I cannot even say if i am good or bad. By what standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:04 AM
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YOu just confirmed. "one of the good ones", means the overwhelming majority of the others are assumed to be bad. I can do the same and say to few individual feminists, that they are one of the good ones in the see of man hating radical sexists that make up the rest of feminists. Are you happy with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:30 AM
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Then die if oyu want to. I'll live in peace somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:42 PM
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How did you make it through college if you don't know how to access papers that are behind a paywall? I don't care if you believe me. yo uwouldn#t read the paper anyway. You would stick to your ideology. It's wasted time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:38 PM
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Then don't return and live with otehr women somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:37 PM
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<image> I already did in this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:32 PM
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hte issue is, i am hated despite not being guilty of that and they don't even know if i am guilty of it. They hate me based on my sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:31 PM
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You have no idea what sexist means.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:29 PM
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Go look for the study yourself. I read it years ago and will not dig around for oyu if you can do that yourself. Here is one on women prefering benevolent sexist men. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167218781000
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 01:15 PM
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The reasonable argument is: we are used to being treated like princesses by men. If they suddenly start treating us as equals, that feels as if we get punched in the gut.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 01:05 PM
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Of course it's consistent with the idea that women are equals to men. But men are the problem at the base of everythign and for the issues of women, the oppression, and therefore they are hated. As a group. Indiscriminately. Like racism, but it's sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:58 PM
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Then you are in the stark minority. Most people use free accounts and those only let you send out 8 likes per day. So people are picky in who they spend their likes on. "swiping on everyone" is neither advisable, nor possible for most users.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:54 PM
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From my experience , consistent feminists are great persons , genuinely caring and empathetic and being equals make it much more easier, all i got to do is to treat her as i want to be treated. If it's reciprocated that's great if not i move on From my experience, consistent feminists are man haters and asshole personalities. all i got to do is to treat her as i want to be treated Too bad, that feminists see equal treatment as misogyny. Studies show that feminists expect benevolent sexism (bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:34 PM
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You pay for premium services on Hinge?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:23 PM
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you don't swipe on Hinge. Get lost, troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:17 PM
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Are we talking in averages or do you expect there is an ideal type that fits EVERYONE'S idea of what ideal is?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:27 AM
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Wow, i didn't expect you to double down on that shit. Based on available data, there are approximately 220,000 commissioned officers in the Russian Armed Forces. This number includes ranks from junior officers (such as lieutenants) to senior officers (such as generals). Estimating the number of married military officers in Russia involves making use of general demographic trends. In Russia, the marriage rate among the general adult population (aged 18 and older) is about 60-65%. Applying this ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:49 AM
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I don't flee a war zone. I relocate. I don't seek asylum, i can stay visa-free. I take a fucking plane to a country that takes me with a hand kiss, or just get into a train or car and drive a few hours into the neighboring countries. As a citizen of Germany, with a very high education, funds to support me for years without working and being fluent in English, i do not face the same problems as typical Syrian men fleeing to Europe. (With the only exception, that Germany starts the 3rd World War.)…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:37 AM
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... sure, 15 million women want 15 oligarchs. That works out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:20 AM
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?! popular with whom? The underground resistance fighters? Definitely not. The other collaborating women who just want to have a peaceful life? Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:50 AM
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I'd prefer the term expat and might change over to immigrant if the situation in my home country doesn't get back to a desirable level. An "expat" (short for expatriate) is a person who lives outside their native country. Typically, the term is used to describe someone who has chosen to reside in a foreign country for an extended period, often for work, study, or lifestyle reasons. Unlike immigrants, who might move to another country permanently or with the intention of becoming citizens, expats…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:49 AM
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Someone whose mate value is within a tight interval around your own mate value. Rating your own and other's mate value is an ability linked to mating intellience. Some people, low in mating intelligence, are just bad at estimating their own and other's values. They tend to try to get mates way out of reach for them and do not understand why those people never show interest in them. Most of what happens on dating apps is completely missing the mark of what your own value is. Just because you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:42 AM
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How exactly are they hogging the women? The men can just return to Ukraine and become Russians.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:27 AM
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Different personalities will see this differently. I am all with you. I would be the first to leave the country and start into a new peaceful and secure life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:24 AM
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How do you think one can talk to/help such people? You can't while they are still connected at the navel to their blackpill ecosystem that supports their mental health. It's like talking to a person who is still in a sect about how that sect is exploiting them and bad for them. They don'T want to hear it and you cannot win against the constant brainwashing they get and actively seek out to keep their worldview running smooth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:15 AM
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That is SEXUAL marketplace. They do not pick these men for long term relationships. Dark Triad is a mating strategy focused on short term mating, for which it excels by faking qualities that are not there. Being able to mate with the partners, before they realize it's not real qualities. After which the relationships usually break down or the men go on to the next short term relationship. Women do not pick those men because they like dark triad. They pick these men because they present themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:08 AM
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Roughly 5% of women and 8% of men have NPD What is your source for this? Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) is estimated to affect approximately 0.5% to 1% of the general population in the United States. However, the prevalence rates differ between men and women. Men: The prevalence of NPD in men is higher, with estimates ranging from 0.6% to 1.3%. Women: For women, the prevalence is lower, ranging from 0.4% to 0.8%. This indicates that NPD is roughly 1.5 to 2 times more common in men than …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:05 AM
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Women are more pro-social than men, and men are more anti-social than women Bold statement. This study focuses on the role that gender plays in prosocial behavior. The experimental evidence on gender differences in social preferences is mixed (see Camerer, 2003; Croson and Gneezy, 2009, for reviews) However, rather than analyzying whether one sex is more prosocial than the other, as it is standard in the literature (Croson and Gneezy, 2009), we present evidence on gender differences on how males…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:48 AM
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Dating is as hard as you make it for yourself. Want a more desirable partner that you are yourself? Hard! Want to get a partner while only using dating apps as a non-oustandingly desirable guy? Hard! Want to get a girlfriend but never talk to any women outside of work or frineds? Hard! Want to get a girlfriend who is a virgin at >24yo? HARD. Want to get a girlfriend? Easy. It's your standards and your lifestyle that make it hard. Nobody needs to improve their wealth, education, physique etc. to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:22 AM
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Nothing about all of that is beautiful. It's a fight, a tug-of-war, a compromise that is worse than what both sides want or could get ideally. Homosexuality is beautiful. Gay men are living the male dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:02 AM
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Yet people on here continually say that a man must be dressed insanely well, wealthy, very good looking, etc etc before they can be good enough for a partner. This is all just to make people deal with their status as incels or perpetually single people. Nothing of that is required, but if you take that away from them, it is getting personal. You specifically, as a person, are not good enough to be seen as relationship material by anyone. Others, who are just as tall, intelligent, rich, etc as yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:49 AM
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Lol. You are new to personalities?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:31 AM
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There are so many women who complain about not being able to find a man, who are single in their late 20's / 30's, who are struggling to find a man to marry/long term relationship with. That is still men not meeting the woman's standards. Not the other way round, the woman not meeting the man's standards for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:05 AM
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Glad i didn't have to write that response. It's not just a high bar. Women who meet that bar are overwhelmingly already in LTR and not on the dating market. AND most importantly, they are so far above 90% of men's dating market value, that a relationship with them is IMPOSSIBLE to ever happen. He basically described the ideal man equivalent and called it a low bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:04 AM
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Well adjusted? What would that be? I am talking about the concept of attachemnt styles here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:45 AM
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boring secure personalities. Secure personality does not mean boring. Insecure attachement styles do not put more effort into attracting. It has NOTHING to do with mentally stable. You have no idea about attachement styles. Stop talking out of your ass. That's why we are more likely to meet someone who's emotionally broken and ready to drag you down. The main thing that makes you end up with emotionallly broken or insecurely attached people, is when you are insecurelly attached yourself and/or m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:43 AM
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Research shows that. You really should read up on attachment styles. It will be more eye opening for relationships than any red pill content you ever read.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:36 AM
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You are the one telling your self things that go against reality. You are taking a pill to live in a fantasy world, not the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:33 AM
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secure in their relationships Are we talking about the same thing? I am talking about attachment styles and being securely attached. If we are talking about the same thing, you are giant idiot and a clown for attacking me on that without doing your research first. https://www.wellesu.com/10.1037/0022-3514.74.6.1656 "Of the 205 participants with unambiguous dimensional ratings, 114 individuals (55.6%) were classified as secure, 49 (23.9%) as dismissing, 29 (14.1%) as fearful, and 13 (6.3%) as pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:29 AM
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Are there women who don't need drama? Sure, they exist but are rare They are the majority. it's called being securely attached. Read up on attachment styles.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 06:32 PM
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You don't understand what i am asking. i want to know if you would hop on the team that is against young women making their own decisions if it's not 18 but 14 or 16. When do you think girls are too young? It's arbitary. For the people your criticize, 18 is too young. For you 14 might be too young.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 06:22 PM
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At 18 people can consent. We all agreed on that as a society in most places in the world You couldn't be more wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_by_country Not even most state of the US agree on that. And very few countries in the rest of the world see 18 as the age where people can consent. Most of which are non-western countries that don't share the same values and culture as the US. <image> That's final. Not at all. So, why do you think it should be 18, when the overwhelming…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 05:55 PM
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It's not out of context. It's in women's interest to have high social status in society, to have high value parters, to have pretty privilege etc. All of that requires to look young and attractive. So they do it for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:36 PM
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Whats a better source than scientific papers?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:34 PM
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Marital satisfaction is reported to be as low as 13%, divorce is sky high, 80% of men who use onlyfans are married, older married men bitch how they are just atms all the time, etc. Give me the source on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:34 PM
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But it IS for themselves. It's their interest to attract the highest value mate possible. They try to look young for their own benefit, by appealing to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 10:56 AM
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People want cookbook solution for their problems 2) it takes A LOT of time. How many hours have you put into listening/watching red pill content creators? If my problem is "baking a bread", I will search for text, or even better, a video with quick tutorial, Is that how you deal with red pill topics? I don't think so. You put lots of time and effort into it and you dig into the detaills, for years. Books are the best for science and in-depth knowledge, yes. But studies and papers in this subject…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 10:30 AM
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You say fake bullshit all the time on this sub. You accept fake bullshit by the content creators you subscribe to. You gobble down fake shit with pleasure dude and you spout it just as feverishly
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 09:45 AM
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That doesn't change anything about the content being made up to make people click it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 09:43 AM
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Well, unless someone is pregnant, right.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 09:31 AM
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Most women would just not believe in the reality anyway. You think women try to look young to men because they don't believe men are into young looking women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 09:25 AM
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I ONLY talked about the monetary incentive of the people making up false information. There's zero money they can make out of you if you decide not to pay a single cent for whatever content they're selling. They make money off of you when you click the video
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 09:13 AM
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It's not about you having to pay, it's about someone getting money if they get you to watch their content. This gives them an incentive to tell you anything that emotionally engages you. They tell you want you want to hear, because they get rich offo f that. Truth is not a factor here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:57 AM
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Doesn't keep shorter men from having girlfriends or havign on average ~10 sex partners. Does red pill say that? no.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:56 AM
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You can get any paper from the authors for free. papers are the least wrong source of information there is. You do not take one paper for your information about a subject, you take all papers into consideration. The overall signal is the best you can ever hope to achieve regarding knowledge of a topic. But you prefer wheatwaffles. Because he speaks to your emotions. Pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:55 AM
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What do you mean by that? I read it as: beta bux people are actually happy and just fake being outraged about their situation? Yes, they are. It's not the beta buxxers who complain. it's the incels who paint beta buxers as something so terrible, they rather stay incels than being a betabuxxer. It's a coping mechanism to deal with the fact that everyone is happy except the incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:39 AM
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Did you know some birds of paradise, among other fascinating species, collect fancy rocks and treasures purely for the purposes of mate attraction? Yes, i am a biologist. Yes, grifters want to make money off people; but that is hardly relevant to what the person you replied to stated. The poster basically said that lots of RP-labeled content is shit and users need to know themselves what is true and what is false. I asked why they still recommend RP-labeled content, when there is content with no…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:37 AM
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The concern is why men’s egos are so fragile and easy to exploit. Men's egos are about as fragile and easy to exploit as women's on average. There is a huge spectrum of fragility of egos in both sexes. Why is that a concern? I mean, governments discovered this centuries ago, but what even is the purpose of the red pill if men are so easy to manipulate? red pill isn't concerned about being manipulated. It's concerned about how to manipulated oneself and others for maximum profit for oneself. We a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:34 AM
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You realize that there is advertisement and followup pay-walled information, guides, coaching etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:31 AM
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Source for that first statement? Yeah, right, it's a poll of a newspaper. That is equally as worthwhile as a reddit polll on ppd, asking if single mothers stand a chance on a date. You realize that 70% of men are currently in relationships, and only 15% of men are 6ft+. That means that most of the men in relationships "wouldn't stand a chance at a date" but somehow ended up in relationships and marriages. In terms of romantic partner selection, women rate taller men as more attractive and desira…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:28 AM
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We know that you do that and as long as we can make ourselves suspend disbelief, it's still enjoyable. The frequency of faked statements to true statements is also relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 06:55 AM
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AMALT Any men have any problem with any of this? Nope, we understand that this is average data and you, as well as TRP, failed to highlight the distribution of the data you base your statements/average on. But as with TRP, going too deep into the science of mating will lose most of the target audience. TRP is mating science for dummies at it's core, oversimplified, catchy, and over the years, taken over by charlatans, grifters, misogynists, traditionalists, etc. who use the fact that the TRP aud…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 06:52 AM
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"Both men and women prefer moderate SDS (sexual dimorphism in stature) with men being slightly taller than women, and a maximum acceptable SDS of about a 17% difference in height"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 06:23 AM
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The redpill is just the observation That was observed by science long before the red pill existed. It's not some kind of secret knowledge that some red pill guru came up with. "The significance of human body height in mate preferences has been a subject of many biological and social sciences investigations (e.g., Beigel, 1954; Brewer and Riley, 2009; Buunk, Pollet, Klavina, Figueredo, and Dijkstra, 2009; Cameron, Oskamp, and Sparks, 1977; Courtiol, Picq, Godelle, Raymond, and Ferdy, 2010; Fink, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 06:21 AM
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But i am talking about that and want to see if you would change camps in that situation. Would you? At what age can people REALLY consent and make their own decisions about sex partners? The US isn't even sure about it and has different ages in different states. This should tell you about how arbitrary your own thinking about it is. What do you base your stance on, at what age a person can make their own decisions about sex partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 06:03 AM
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Things that are valued that go beyond dating. Wisdom, intelligence, empathy, humor, kindness, etc. Beauty and youth aren’t the only thing humans have to offer. Wisdom, intelligence, empathy, humor and kindness ARE valued in dating. They are THE traits that people value in a partner for mating. You think humor is differently distributed in 25yos than in 40yos?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 05:46 AM
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Did you ever think you should go to actual science of mating and attraction, rather than some pilled creators who want to make money off of you? I totally understand how mating dynamics are super interesting and one wants to get as much info to build one's own strategy and understand why things are happening. the red pill is just a pretty bad ecosystem to look for that information. If you want knowledge, read a book or a paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 05:28 AM
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When women say that men should treat women like human beings, there is only one comparable type of human being to use as reference. That is other men. So why don't women say that" men should treat us like they treat other men" Because men and women are different. Human is the superior category. Treat men and women as humans. Treat men as men, treat women as women, in the next layer of specification. Treat adults as adults and children as children. etc. The call is for women to be treated as huma…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 05:22 AM
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You have 1 second to come up with polite conversation to that statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:43 PM
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Being fine is something different than being morally wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:39 PM
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Each of your threads is actually about your insecurities about finding a mate to marry, who will accept your old age and virginity before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:08 PM
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By not being married and having a resilient emotional regulation ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:59 PM
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Everyone would be better off just being in situationships No, the benefits they provide for insecurely attached people are mostly irrelevant or negative for securely attached people. Situationships can present several challenges and drawbacks for securely attached individuals, who typically thrive in relationships characterized by trust, clear communication, and mutual commitment. These negatives include: Lack of Stability and Security: Securely attached people often value stability and predicta…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:54 PM
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What is the point of developing feelings for someone and putting your heart on the line when the risk of it failing is incredibly high due to easy access of dating apps and social media? You can only understand this if you are not insecurely attached, or know the relevant concepts from both perspectives. For securely attached people, the thought of being left is not terrifying at all. We will find a new and probably better fitting partner. Life is good, we are valuable to people, we are confiden…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:53 PM
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I’d contend the data here is skewed by older age cohorts (pre dating apps) and the woke nature of the scientists did who do these studies where they’re driven by ideology and not empirical data, and also the fact that most sociological studies aren’t reproducible anyway. It_s a yearly or bi-yearly survey. What do you think the ideology of the scientists does to a survey? Are you college educated? It's not an experiment. Wow, you are in way above your cognitive pay grade with that line of argumen…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:55 PM
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like and engage with the respective content and you will be shown that with priority. You are just angry that the algorithm treats you like a general man before it has more information about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:50 PM
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But that is not happening. So nobody gets stabbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:48 PM
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Only a handful of top men though. 70% of men are in relationships currently. Are they all top men? Why are women with them if they can get the top 5% of men easily? The math doesn't check out. Only the top 5% of women can be married to the top 5% of men, the rest will marry/be in committed LTR with men on their level. And those men get into relationships JUST AS EASILY as the women on their level. Are you not able to play out that model in your head? Unlike most women, most young men are sexless…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:48 PM
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work out, develop yourself, don't be a push-over, demand equal returns on your investments in relationships etc. You cherry pick the common sense advice that everyone has, even outside of "red pill internet niche content" and claim men are not pushed into terrible directions? Don't you think telling men that women only see 5% of men as worthwhile and that all of the other men who are in relationships are just exploited and don't even get to have sex in their dead bedroom relationships. This is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:39 PM
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My partner doesn't know i am thinking of others. How is that stabbing her through the heart?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 10:19 AM
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Just wrong by YOUR current age standards of your respective cultural background. 14 would still be perfectly legal to have a relationship with as an adult of any age, in Germany, for example. Your moral values are arbitrary. Get down from your high horse. Grooming is not defined by an age gap and respective ages. It's defined by a special practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 10:00 AM
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So if older men who go for younger women are creeps that no woman wants That is your base assumption and it's wrong. MOST young women do not want old men. (>10yr age gap at early 20s). MOST old men are not creepy. BUT, most creepy old men also go for young women, or at least have the fantasy of that happening, in case of this sub's population. You don't need lots of women to be into large age gaps, to be able to have a large age gap relationship. You just need to be able to find those women. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:58 AM
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It feels like Danm near every post on the internet is just a covert onlyfans ad nowadays. What do you expect? Every post is either trying to sell you something or get something from you. Even your friends want validation and attention, want to feel good by showing you how amazing their life is. Anyone outside of "friends"-level accounts has an agenda or a monetary interest in posting. Why would you believe anything on social media?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:53 AM
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Not true. Look into sociosexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:46 AM
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The truth is, the most evil, degenerate, disgusting freaks in the entire "age gap" discussion are the people who are desperately trying to interfere with, police, and stop the consenting relationships of strangers. What if the girl is 16? You switch to the bandwagon of evil, degenerate, disgusting freaks that hate on age gap relationships, because the girl is too immature to deserve the right to make her own decisions?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:32 AM
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They don't. You cherrypicked ONE thread that you didn'T even link, while ignoring the LOADS of good resources on those platforms. This sub has a no incel/blackpill content policy. You are very much excluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:28 AM
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Those are real numbers. You know the pew study and the GSS data?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:23 AM
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Who do you think are 60% of young women in relationships with? the top 5%?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:19 AM
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Women can't get relationships on tap without lifting a finger, without also men getting into relationships quickly and easily. Women are IN relationships with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:18 AM
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But your worldview is absolutely correct and flawless, right? No, and i know it and accept that. So my goal is to constantly correct my world view if new evidence comes up. I am quick to abandon previously held beliefs. You on the other hand, reject evidence and think that the stuff you believe is right and will always be right, no matter what others might show you about the world. Do you think it's a good thing that one of the top posts on wrongplanet is mocking a ridiculous caricature of autis…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:00 AM
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What advantages or benefits do women get out of having sex? What benefits do women get out of having easy access to sexual encounters or casual sex? Are you kidding us? That is like asking: what are the advantages or benefits when you have easy access to sources of validation. How asexual do you need to be to not understand how being able to easily get something you may want is an advantage, as opposed to not easily getting the thing you may want. her value within the sexual/romantic marketplace…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:28 AM
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Apex fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:18 AM
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I have different "standards" for different kinds of relationships. I had different standards based on my age, phase of life and my own sexual and relationship market value. I have different standards based on how long i haven't had sex with a new partner, when it concerns casual sex/ONS. I suspect the statement that men would fuck anything that moves comes from men who are both on the unrestricted side of the sociosexuality spectrum and severely underfucked/didn't have a new sexual partner in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:14 AM
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So, how high is the bar? How high are the standards? Where is the cut off point for men? 70% of men are in relationships currently. 15% do not want to be in relationships currently. That leaves 15% of men who are looking for relationships but are not currently in one. Of those 15%, most will find a relationship within the next months/years, or have been in relationships in the last months/years. Where the fuck is the bar, that keeps men out of relationships? Also, there is ZERO evidence, that re…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:07 AM
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Nobody cares about your double standards. Men and women are not the same. They are not held to the same standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:02 AM
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Which cohort do you fall into?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:00 AM
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He simply outsourced the care to another person who he trusts, but that doesn't take away his single status. No, he doesn't. There is the element of her living in the same household and taking care of the kids. It's not my definition. I don't make definitions. This is the definition that census-like surveys use in their statistics. In the United States, for census and similar surveys, the definitions of "single father" is as follows: Single Father: A man who lives with his biological, step, or a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:38 AM
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When do the expectations of others stop? People expect a career, a house, a marriage, children, status symbols, stable mental health, etc. from people 40+ What do you expect from a 20yo? Nothing. Everything is optional.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:14 AM
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You are in power of who will get your work force or if at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:10 AM
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What is "value as a whole"? Every human is worth 1 human. We are only talking about mating value on the mating market here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:09 AM
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where does it say that most young men are in relationshiups that do nothing for them? The source you linked has nothing on what the relationship does for the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:08 AM
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This is one of the best ways to determine whether or not your partner is serious about you. Not at all. There are lots of explanations for why a person who is seriously committed to you would still not fight for you, in a breakup situation. When i break up, it's not for some fluke of emotions or a temporary fight. It's a well thought over, long process, that is looked at from all perspectives. When i say i am breaking up, there is no going back and my partners know that, because they know me. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:03 AM
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i regularly slap my partner in the face during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:53 PM
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You are just making up shit with no basis in reality
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:50 PM
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Do you have any basis for those claims, other than you want that to be true?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:48 PM
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Source: trust me bro. Also, not having sex anymore after some years of being in a relationship doesn't mean people aren't attracted to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:48 PM
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You clearly have no understanding of lust and love. Love doesn't keep you from wanting to fuck other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:46 PM
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Most men aren't attractive to women, And why would that be a requirement to have sex with someone? You said it yourself, wanting a man to build a family with, is reason enough to have sex with him, despite not finding him attractive. Men really do not care that much if women find them attractive, as long as they want to be with them and have sex with them. Men are used to not be valued for their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:45 PM
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That is just your perspective, because no woman wants you to commit to her. Of course you are powerless. Doesn't mean that other men share your fate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:58 AM
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And then the man has all the power to commit or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:57 AM
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source: trust me bro
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:56 AM
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How many % or relationships have dead bedrooms?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:55 AM
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Is this one of your epiphanies or do you have data to suppport your claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:55 AM
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The relationship is the company, so the employer side. Both men and women are employees of the relationship. Men are the HR department, women are the upper management.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:52 AM
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What does that have to do with anything? We are neither talking about "most men" , but the average values, and we are not talking about "raw attraction" but desirability on the mating market. Also, why do you address me here? I stand behind the graphs i posted, showing that average desirability of men and women on the dating market is equal at about 30yo, after which men gain the upper hand on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:26 AM
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Have you considered that you are not desirable enough for women who are your type? No point in chasing an unobtainable goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:39 AM
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You also said in other threads that you had girlfriends. So what is the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:02 AM
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Being single doesn't mean not having sex. You want to change to topic to "how would the world be if men could be happy not having sex"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:28 AM
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Whatever it is, I won't be trying that again anytime soon. How do you react when a woman 10 years older than you, that you are not attracted to, that stands next in line at the vegan butcher shop turns over to you and says "i think the whole vegan meat alternatives are a fad, but i'll be rooting for this place", while you get your order.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:25 AM
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, but see masculine ripped dudes pushing 50 constantly LOL. There are not even 1% of dudes pushing 50 being ripped and masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:01 AM
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Because as a woman, you know what it’s like being only valued for your looks. So why would you just keep enforcing these toxic ideas? It’s disgusting. Because you know it's true. It's not a toxic idea. Claiming women's desirability doesn't drop with age is the toxic idea. Being less desirable with older age doesn't mean that women will not have sex or a partner. It just means, they, on average, are less desirable. Accept that reality. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:54 AM
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To tackle these issues effectively, boys need in-depth education on interpreting body language and enhancing communication. No, that doesn't work. You might be able to slightly improve the body language reading and signaling ability of men and women, but you will not make it free of errors. About half of communication is still miscommunication. In an environment where misinterpreting signals can lead to ruin, inaction is the way to go. At the same time, girls must be educated on the dynamics of …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:45 AM
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In general autism-related spaces are suppressing any kind of "incel-y" and male-centered discourse Because you are wrong about dating and propagate a toxic and wrong ideology. Of course communities that are not black pilled incels don't seem valuable to you. Becuase you reject everything that isn't black pilled manosphere shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:16 AM
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Of course i have noticed how the world changed. But more importantly, i have changed and you have changed. I spent my 20s inside, low interaction. Girlfriend and small group of friends was all i needed. Now, i go out and get interaction, despite social media and dating apps being a thing. And i meet plenty of people i could interact with. It's overwhelming how many people are out and about, looking for a good summer night and meeting others.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:10 AM
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That the manosphere make a problem out of young single men and mix it up with single = no sex. While there are also men like you, who would show up in the single demographic in Pew-Studies, but having a flourishing dating and sex life. Your reason to be single is not that you cannot get a partner, but that you do not want one currently. An explanation i often bring up for why young men are not in committed relationships. But the manosphere always assumes that men are mostly single because they c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:57 AM
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That seems like a bit of an assumption there Mister Science Pill. We should be able to assume, that people know about the two most important traits in human mating: attractiveness and kindness. It's shouted from every rooftop, it's what people value themselves in others, it's what we evolved to value. You might be able to not know that you are attractive or kind, but it's quite impossible to not know that attractiveness and kindness are what people value in partners. I bet there are plenty of ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:52 AM
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liberation from what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:41 AM
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What does slim and unhealthy have to do with being 25 or 35?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:39 AM
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First, Chad steals all the young women. Now, bisexual women steal all the post-wall women. What is beta bux Billy going to do now? Waiting for post-wall women was all he could hope for, according to the manosphere!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:39 AM
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I don't want to pay for them to come over. I want to be desired for me and my body, not for the money i spent on them. I don't want to maximize number of sexual partners if i have to compromise on feeling desired. How old are you? Why do you think online dates come so easy? Why can’t most guys seem to want to experience something like this, but can’t? I am 40 now. My main online dating time was 34-35yo. I was in two relationships back to back from 20 to 34. Why do you think online dates come so …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 07:11 PM
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How an you be a single dad if you are not single??? Because the defining characteristic is "Single fathers are responsible for the day-to-day care, upbringing, and financial support of their children without a co-parent present in the household." "I'm a single dad. Oh, here, meet my wife. She stays home and takes care of the kids... which I am the single dad of." Right. No, because if she stays home and takes care of the kids, then he is not "responsible for the day-to-day care, upbringing, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 06:09 PM
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?! a ppd thing? most men here are young and don't have regular sex or a relationship. I am the opposite of a ppd thing. Most men here are not even old enough that post-wall women are into them. All that wall talk is rejected young men's fantasy of revenge and feeling powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 06:02 PM
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https://www.hikiapp.com/ https://autisticdating.net/ https://wrongplanet.net/ Subreddits like r/autism and r/AutisticAdults often discuss dating issues and provide advice and support. Aspie Singles: A dating and friendship site for individuals with Asperger's Syndrome and other autism spectrum conditions. It provides a platform for autistic individuals to meet like-minded people. Aspieology: A community that offers forums and resources for autistic individuals, including sections dedicated to re…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:56 PM
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What does all of that have to do with a girl liking you and then wanting to do things with you? I am 40. I have "dated" pre-phones. I still date and when a girl likes me, she is open to do literally anything that is fun. You might mix up girls not liking you with girls just being different now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:49 PM
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Attention and validation is not power in relationships. You were talking about relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:46 PM
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So how do they have power when they can't have Chad for themselves but Chad is actually the one with power in those relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:44 PM
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You didn't understand the assignment. The goal is to help people who do not know they possess positive traits in the eyes of some, to make them realize that some value them exactly for that. You think anyone thinks nobody likes symmetry or looking good without makeup? This is not a wishlist for your perfect girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:33 PM
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What positive traits do you value in people you'd consider dating? so in the interest of making people feel good, let's give each other a dose of positivity. The idea here, is to allow people who might be feeling a little insecure to find positive traits in themselves that other people value, that they themselves might not have realized they possess. And then you go on to list stuff that everyone knows is a highly sought after trait. As if people who are kind, considerate and able to regulate th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:30 PM
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Unattractiveness is not the defining characteristic of creepiness. Men certainly don't label women as creeps for being unattractive to them. Science understands creepiness as a psychological phenomenon characterized by an uneasy or uncomfortable feeling triggered by ambiguous or uncertain threats. This sensation is typically caused by people, behaviors, or situations that are unusual, unpredictable, or violate social norms in subtle ways. Key elements contributing to creepiness include: Ambiguit…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:50 PM
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Women have so much power in relationships? That's why we are seeing so many FWB and situationships which are the male preferred type of relationship, while women do want more commitment. Dating apps give women so much power? Why are most women not fond of dating apps and not using them to find partners/dates? Women get free attention on those apps. Something they can get easily addicted to. It's like porn for men. Does porn give men extreme power in sexual relationships? Men now live in fear tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:30 PM
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They also cut of your balls and store them in a mason jar under the sink.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:25 PM
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Explain: . As a western country, Ireland features all of the issues found in the US, Canada, UK etc. Such issues include bad attitudes, overwhelming obesity, ridiculous standards and a society bias against men. In reality, Irish women are unbelievably masculine, combative and plain disrespectful towards men. and My friends and I have had great success dating foreign girls such as Canadians, Germans, Americans and Swedish. The consensus among us is this: foreign girls are on average more kind, re…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:23 PM
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I am 40 and am still tolerating annoying women when they have that sweet sweet pussy you mentioned. The oldest women i ever had sex with was 33. The wall is about age for me and i do not show signs of "growing up and becoming less horny".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:18 PM
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The singleness epidemic for young men is devastating!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:58 PM
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Break it down to "a year" with the most dates. Did you go for an average of 2 dates per week for a whole year?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:52 PM
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That is still what is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:50 PM
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What’s the most amount of 1st dates you’ve gone on in 1 year? About 50, in 2019 It was my first time dating and using online dating in a new city. Did you have a good time? Amazing time! As an introvert with no friends in a new city i moved to, this dating supplied me with all the social life i needed and introduced me to the city. I learned a lot about myself, about women, about dating. Completely changed my view of myself and was in general a key experience for that phase of my life. As a side…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:40 PM
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A single father is defined as a male parent who has sole or primary custody of his child or children and is not living with the child's mother. This status can result from various circumstances, including but not limited to divorce, separation, widowhood, or a choice to parent independently. Single fathers are responsible for the day-to-day care, upbringing, and financial support of their children without a co-parent present in the household. He can be in a relationship with a new woman who isn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:49 PM
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Women value qualities in men with regards to being fathers who care. Because that is not a given and it's important for their mate choice on average. Being mothers who care is basically a given and therefore not so relevant for male mate choice. There is no extra info men get about the partnership quality of women who are single mothers, the way women get it about single dads.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:46 PM
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Wrong analogy. there was no social pressure to not drink alcohol and there were no social consequenes for drinking alcohol. Everyone wanted to drink alcohol. It was a top down rule to ban alcohol. Shame is a strong social tool to make people conform to social norms. If it wouldn't work to keep women from being promiscuous, it wouldn't have been used.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:21 PM
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are you an incel? I am really curious. I have never "Please bae.." in my life and i am pretty sure her pussy would dry up instantly if i ever begged for a blowjob in this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:01 PM
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Holy fuck that icks me even as a man. Are you tipping your fedora in the same moment?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:47 PM
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They are very much not the same thing! Can you please change your mind about the wrong belief you hold?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:45 PM
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The sample is representative and made up of people who have proven time and time again that they give turstworthy answers, even for questions that have an element of social desirability. You claimed you are an ex-social scientist. you should know how those panels for the GSS work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:07 PM
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?! nobody is using bots here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:59 PM
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SOME men say this. Believe them. They have no idea what other men would fuck. Men are not a monolith and individual men have no idea what other men want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:57 PM
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None of the bullet points are true. men generally have no standards. They will try to fuck anything that moves and thus male attention is generally easy to come by and worthless for women. Trying to find a good man is like trying to find clean water in a swamp. Men have low standards on average regarding casual sex partners. There are men with high standards and some with no standards. It's a spectrum. Not all men are the same. You need to be clear about averages! Male SEXUAL attention is easy t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:55 PM
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It's a power and revenge fantasy. Those guys are not shooting themselves in the foot by rejecting perfectly suitable candidates, just to get back at "women" in general for how they "treated" them back in the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:14 PM
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You gotta be kidding us. https://www.poorpeoplescampaign.org/ Here are 20 examples of protest marches for poverty awareness from various parts of the world: Occupy Wall Street (2011): New York City, USA. Protests against economic inequality and corporate influence on politics. Gilets Jaunes (Yellow Vests) Movement (2018-present): France. Protests against fuel tax hikes and broader economic issues. Protests in Chile (2019): Chile. Initially about metro fare hikes, expanded to address economic ine…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:10 PM
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What you are telling me is "male sexlessness is WAY higher than what you see in these numbers" based on the men you see around yourself. That is not science. That is a biased observation, an anecdote, nothing that holds any value for getting an idea of how it is for the population as a whole. Giving an exmaple of where there are confounding factors that can also explain parts of the results is fun, but has nothing to do with our case at hand, unless you can give us the confounding factors and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:07 PM
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That has nothing to do with consent. I am just keeping the ball rolling regarding sexual interest. Nothing happens until you consent. If you don't want to have me around and interested in sex, then just leave or tell me to leave. There is no problem here unless you willfully stay in a situation you don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:48 PM
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Yes, absolutely. Those guys are sexless for a reason. The same reason they are not going to do anything about that to society. Have you seen an incel protest march for sexlessness awareness? nope, because they can't even do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:47 PM
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Sure, if you say so, then it's way higher without any proof. I'll just take your word. That is way better than science. Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:45 PM
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Sure, but they need to realize they are the bottom 15% and everyone else is not having problems getting sex or relationships. Instead they paint it as if the average man is a lonely incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:44 PM
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Apex fallacy. Just because you read a lot of incels here doesn't make that the general experience or average experience of men who are not terminally online, autistic incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:33 PM
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Of course. The issue is not women or "modern dating", it's a terminally online, socially isolated, sociallly inept lifestyle, where "where can i meet women" is a question they cannot even answer for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:29 PM
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Yes. The data is 63% of no committed relationship, and it's 54% of "no steady partner" (in the GSS data for that year) and it will fluctuate between years because of sample size and because life is dynamic and young men increasingly do not want to be in committed relationships. In 2019, the pew study had 51% of men aged 18-29 being single. But regarding the general number of "single" men: we are talking about having sex, not about having a committed relationship. Men generally prefer non-commitm…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:26 PM
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Have you dropped out of highschool?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:21 PM
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I really do not care about your marriage and sex plans. When i want to have sex with you i will follow my goals until you either comply or we part ways because there is nothing in it for me other than sex with you. It's basically the same as your approach, just with different goals. It's my way or the highway, you for me it's casual sex, for you it's waiting until marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:41 AM
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You are the odd one out. Men and women are having about the same sex frequency and it happens in relationships for most of them, for the overwhelming majority of their encounters. There is a tiny amount of incels who desperately want to have sex and a relationship, but fail to achieve that. Mostly, because they don't even try. When was the last time you talked to a new woman in person, in a non-work, non platonic-friends related context for more than 10 minutes? Yeah, thought so. Ages 20-35, yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:35 AM
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Pester? You are free to leave if you do not want to talk to me. If you want to talk to me despite me continuing to ask for sex/offer sex, then it's your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:28 AM
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How many couples have you observed where this happened? What is your basis to think this sample is representative of the general public? How much more likely is it to cheat during pregnancy/with small children, than at any other point in time?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:27 AM
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What do you base your statements on, that men often are not able to handle not being center of attention anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 08:40 AM
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Yes, it's a toxic femininity having an internal will to stigmatize others. A woman doing something toxic doesn't make it toxic femininity. What does stigmatizing others have to do with femininity? My paragraph states that weird often has a negative connotation. Deviating from the norm is, in general, negatively connotate, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 08:28 AM
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Men who value low n counts in women do profit from shaming promiscuity. What are you smoking, dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 08:26 AM
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I've always considered slutshaming a sad own goal no one benefits from. Women collectively benefit from restricting sexual availability to maintain its value. Slutshaming is a tool to keep the price of sex high. https://www.evolvingyourman.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/cultural-suppression-of-female-sexuality.pdf Here is a summary in bullet points of the paper "Cultural Suppression of Female Sexuality" by Roy F. Baumeister and Jean M. Twenge: Main Argument: The paper posits that female sexualit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:08 AM
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I have learend on this sub, that settling means that i take a woman as a partner who is less that what i can dream of. For me, settling is taking less than i could get in a reasonable amount of time, because it's convenient or because of restrictions that apply for the e.g. location. Settling is just relative to what you can get. Not to what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:57 AM
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How is it toxic to call someone weird or creepy? Having an uncommon personality, style or opinion is weird. What do you think weird means? "Weird" is a term used to describe something or someone that is strange, unusual, or out of the ordinary. It often carries a negative connotation, implying that the thing or person in question deviates from what is considered normal or expected in a way that is unsettling or difficult to understand. The word can be used in various contexts: Behavior*: When so…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:26 AM
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Dude, only you think about yourself as a loser. We don't fucking care if you have a girlfriend or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:53 PM
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It's just the autism, bro. Autists are fucked and need to find uncommon ways to get sex or romance. Don't make this sub into an autist self help forum. Thera are othern niches for that. Finding a social circle is good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:49 PM
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Dude, you are just insecure and anxious. This is not "male sexuality catch 22".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:47 PM
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Like, if you want sex without marriage or commitment, why try to convince the virgin or very low-count woman? Why not a promiscuous woman? Then you won't have to make any ''effort'', cajole or argue. Because it doesn't matter to us what you want. It's still worth a try. Experience shows, that women change their mind. Your ambitions to have no sex before marriage are irrelevant to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:26 PM
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Have some evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:00 PM
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No, a man does not become a red pilled ape by saying that. That was why i asked if you think blue pillers don't know about cheating. Blue pillers say that women and men cheat, because that is common knowledge and the own experience of everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:00 PM
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If women swiped right on average of 7%, but all of their likes when to different guys (and not the same guys), then you would expect the average guy to be swiped right on 7% of the time. I am not expecting all of their swipes going to different guys. You know, there is a middle ground of some overlap and some different swipes. As if individual taste in men would exist.. you know, like some women swipe on the metal-head and others on the surfer, while most swipe on the mainstream attractive profi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:58 PM
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Cherry pick? the survey is done every year and shows basically the same every year. It is not a study, it is a fucking plain survey. It doesn't get less cherry picked than a social survey that shows the same trend every year. Common knowledge is your source? You really want to build your argument on "common knowledge"? Bring up a study that shows what you claim to be common knowledge. My GSS data was from 2021 and 2022. Here is the data from PEW for 2019. Equal shares of men and women are single…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:40 PM
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But how many did you go on and paid for?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:14 AM
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I am not afraid. and if you are directing that at the men who are, then yes,you are correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:14 AM
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you wouldn't see self immolating Tibetan monks Why? did you see the biological blueprint of the self immolating person? you wouldn't see self sacrificing mothers Are you fucking kidding me now? Parents taking their own deaths as a possible risk/outcome to secure the life of their children is evolutionarily successful. Same with brave soldiers. You think bees have transcended their biological blueprint by being brave soldiers, dieing for their population? All of that is absolutely explained by bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:12 AM
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General social survey of the US
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:07 AM
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Why does it feel good?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:07 AM
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What do you think the 80-20 rule is based on?! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:05 AM
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That is just what attractiveness means. More attractive people are found more attractive by more people, than less attractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:03 AM
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That is a different statistic though. You would need to show that women agree on who those 5-7% of men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:02 AM
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OLD vs Real life, You would first need to show that the online dating population, that the 80/20 rule was based on, was representative of the general population. Who accumulates on dating apps and never leaves? Undesirable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:58 AM
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You want to love a 1/10? Go out and get yourself one, they are a dime a dozen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:50 AM
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THE INTERNET? People pick their partners by looks, social status, resources, etc. since the dawn of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:49 AM
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relationships are transactional. Love is not transactional. Love is something that happens inside your brain. Relationships happen with someone where a transaction can take place. Romantic love is conditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:46 AM
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But I'll put it to the floor, why are a disproportionate number of men not getting paired up or receiving any romantic love or attention at all, while twice the greater percentage of their equivalents of the opposite gender are? Does it seem like all the girls you know are taken while all the guys you know are still looking with not much luck? The solution to the paradox is: it is not true. <image> Men are less single overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:44 AM
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That’s kinda…. Disgusting? Like men who do this, what do they get out of it? It’s just taking advantage of someone’s feelings to get sex regularly. You think those people care that you find that disgusting? They get what they want. It's a viable strategy. I am talking about a very specific type of man. In short, he wants to have his cake and eat it too. Can’t deny, I really loathe such men. You are just afraid to be the woman a man uses as a stepping stone while developing and waiting for the ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:38 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:31 AM
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You don't transcend over anything, dude. You are flesh and bones, blood and neurons.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:14 AM
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How many expensive dates have you gone on this year?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:06 AM
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You think blue pillers don't know that most people cheat at least once in their lifetime? I don't think it's healthy for men's own sake to judge and think of all women as a monolith just cause they got cheated on by one, but I've never been in that situation, I've never been damaged like that, and I think most of these men know deep inside of them that it's irrational to do so, but they still do it anyways, maybe as a defense mechanism? Are you defending judging all women by one experience? You …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:02 AM
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Culture is not factual evidence for decisions. Age of consent reflects the age at which one is able to make decisions about one's sex life and partners PLUS a lot of moral/tradition/religion that influences this debate and the ultimate laws. Politics are by definition not factual, as there are multiple different parties or currents within parties that cannot all go back to the same factual evidence. What is the factual evidence for abortion laws? Why do they change if the facts don't change?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:15 AM
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This dynamic reinforces outdated gender roles, They are not outdated gender roles. They are very much up to date. Women COULD be active. They CHOOSE to not be active. Nobody is oppressing women and limiting their agency. You want women to be able to make free choices? Their free choice is to let men do the approaching. So, here's a radical idea: men should stop initiating dates. Yes, you heard that right. It's time we embrace our inner "Kings" and adopt the same mantras women tell each other: "I…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:03 AM
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Politics and law are based in factual evidence? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH duuuuuuuude what? What is the factual evidence of an age of consent of 18 years? Because in Germany it's 14 years. Are german girls somehow different than american girls with respect to being able to consent? Or is politics and law based on other things than factual evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:53 AM
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1 to both, because NOT ALL PEOPLE ARE THE SAME. There are different mating strategies that have different pros and cons and that strive under different enviromental or social situations. All of our personalities are outgrowths of our mating strategies. Introverts and extraverts are following different mating strategies. There are long and short term focused mating strategies. Heavy investment and low investment strategies. People go into niches with their strategies, because it's not optimal if …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:52 AM
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Is Hannah a good example of what women should aspire to ? No, of course not. Just do the math. If every woman had 8 children, we'd fight for food and living space with the rest of the world by the end of the century. We don't need 50%+ of the population being influencers. Her life is a niche life. Farming as a lifestyle is not possible for large parts of the population. It's an extreme niche lifestyle for extreme niche people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:34 AM
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Everyone makes decisions to influence society to one's own benefits/goals. Families want to make society more family-friendly/supportive/etc. Single/childless people want to make society a better environment for their demographic. Family interests are opposed to single interests. young people interests are opposed to old people interests. This is just the nature of having variability in a society. From my point of you, your conservative ideas for society are dumb and ruinous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:23 AM
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Childless people are already paying for the children of the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:20 AM
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Even on this very sub, Blue Pillers will openly say that they think married men(like JD Vance) are more valuable to society than single men yet, if a man on here were to claim that tradwives or women with families are more valuable to society than single/childless women, all hell would break loose all over Reddit and the misogyny claims will be through the roof. Valuable to society in what way? The breaking of hell is due to "value to society" isn't measured by having kids or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:15 AM
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What do you think happens when you smack your pelivs against her ass? Bone pressed length. What's your BMI? You said it's 4.5 (?) non-BP. That is still average and plenty of dick to satisfy women, as you saw in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:38 AM
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Only problem is, now he's in his late thirties/early forties. Society will view a guy like him and go like "good job becoming successful, now it's time to settle down with a woman around your age and start a family." He can't quite live through those high school/college/young adult experiences he's always yearned for. It's not appropriate. Society doesn't say that. Society doesn't fucking care about what i do with my life. You don't need the internet to tell you that you are allowed to do that. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:11 AM
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Dude, it's 2024, nobody does first date dinner anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:00 AM
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That is all i need. ALL women in this thread told you that 4.5 is enough and preferred over 7. You have 6. It's NOT too small. Why don't you accept that truth? THanks for the compliment, that you think my sexlife is so unbelievable that you think it must be imagination rather than reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:49 PM
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You meeting people is not a basis to form an opinion about the population. You know that. It's sampling and observation bias. A truckload of other biases on top of that. Either you get data or you bow down to what people on a population level say: they are happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:47 PM
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they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:33 PM
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Dude my dick is smaller than yours and women love it. Had 50 sex partners and 20 years of relationship duration and never a negative word or behavior towards it. You are NOT getting ridiculed for it by the majority of women. If you had a negative experience, that might be due to you being an unpleasant guy and she knew how to hurt you. Your size is NOT an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:31 PM
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Are you baiting us? She is a single mom. If anything ,SHE needs to convince men to pick her despite that big downside. She needs to make it worth the man's time, take care of her own life by organizing and paying for a babysitter and her transit to and back from the date location. Nobody wants to meet her kid on the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:27 PM
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The men here that are the worst cases and the most frequent posters are not even wanted as friends by other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:34 PM
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The higher a man's social status the more likely he is to achieve romantic success such as finding a relationship with a woman. Are you fucking kidding us? The overwhelming majority of men are havign romantic success. Men of ALL social status levels are in relationships. You don't need to get good at capitalism or patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:31 PM
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It's always the same guy opening posts every day
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:21 PM
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Op has body dysmorphia. He has a 6 inch cock, knows this makes it average, but still thinks he has a micropenis and will be rejected by women for that. he is a mental case. don't entertain his delusions
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:20 PM
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No, i think there is a sweet spot of intelligence, smartness and being informed. Having too few of that makes you not able to exploit life to it's fullest and makes you taken advantage off easily. Having too much is making you unhappy about the state of the world, leads to social isolation, anxiety, stress, perfectionism, overthinking, feeling disconnected and misunderstood, struggling with high expectations from others, and having issues to delegate tasks. Health usually comes as a tradeoff of …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:02 AM
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Getting the dates is easier for the woman and being a desirable partner is also easier for introverted women: "The evidence for the first prediction—that women favor extraverted mates more than men do—is mixed. In student samples, the extraversion preference seems equally strong in both sexes (Buss & Barnes, 1986; Goodwin,1990). However, in samples of dating and newlywed couples (Botwin et al., 1997), and dating agency members (Goodwin, 1990), men prefer more introversion in their mates than wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:37 AM
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Trust is the foundation of a relationship. If you don’t have trust, you have no reason in a relationship. In fact, that also applies to friends. You’re not smart nor cautious sleeping with someone you think is a whore or a creep. Trust can be misplaced despite the best vetting process and the best intentions of your partner. YOu are naive to think trust solves paternity questions. Trustworthyness of people depends partially on how they look. This alone should give you an idea about what your "tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:19 AM
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Can you name a place where there are no third spaces? I often read this, but i cannot imagine it. I am in Europe, and even tiny villages have third spaces and community events on the weekends, clubs for singing, dancing, music instruments, sports of all variations. Cities are stock full of third spaces. I cannot possibly use all the third spaces that are within 20 minutes of my apartment in the next years.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:43 AM
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That young boy needed help learning how to integrate and socialize and his parents and his community FAILED HIM. Probably because his parents lack "normie" socialization, friends, and community as well Well, if his parents found each other and procreated, their son can do so too, doing the same things they did. In a world like this you HAVE to be intentional about fostering community for yourself and your loved ones. It won't just "magically" happen for you. You need to start surrounding yoursel…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:36 AM
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You think a starving person is a great mate value? At some point you even become infertile. Not the best prospects to get your genes into the next generation with the highest mate value partner possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:16 AM
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But why develop myself? To what end?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:15 AM
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It's the same story as with what men complain about. a PREFERENCE for YOUTH, or in the other case HEIGHT, STATUS, WEALTH,.. is just that, a preference. Most people don't have the partners they prefer, but the partners that are achievable for them. We all settle and are very happy with that. Most men pick partners that are around +-3 years of their age, regardless of when they get together. Also, women don't become undesirable valueless, they decrease in value on the mating market, they become le…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:58 AM
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Why do you think did an interest in the things you like evolve?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:18 PM
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Why do you think would it feel that way? Because it's evolutionarily beneficial to "do something". BEcause it increases your mate value, so you can get the best possible offspring... your genes.. into the next generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:17 PM
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Let's turn it around. Why do you think people do anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:56 PM
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What are you driven by?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:43 PM
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I don't know about "usually" in the second case, but that has been how it went for me. So i'll add an anecdotal evidence on top of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:41 PM
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Are you going to cry now? Is this the reason women don't pick you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:34 PM
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You don't seem to understand. It's not MY life. It's your life as well. We can't escape biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:31 PM
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Why improve your career? Because it feels good? Why does it feel good? Because it raises your resource availability and your social status. Oh! Those increase your value on the mating market, aka that people want to fuck you. Why does it feel good to increase your social status? Because it increases your chance to get sex. Why would it feel good otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:29 PM
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I don't think so. Everything else is just a byproduct of becoming more desirable as a partner/sexual partner. Striving for anything is part of the competition on the mating market, own survival and the survival and fitness of my offspring. As i don't have issues surving and don't have offspring yet, anything else is to increase my desirability on the mating market. Be it social status, wealth, health, fitness, skills and abilities, personality development, etc. You can claim you play the piano b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:26 PM
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The manosphere is also immune to facts and doesn't want to change their opinion anyway. Just like feminists. Ideologists are going to ideology. It's pointless to argue with them, unless you enjoy arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:16 PM
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Most men being in relationships or do you still believe in red pill propaganda?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:09 PM
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A man not being hard is a woman not being wet. You can define it any way you want. The female privilege still remains.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:05 PM
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Give a man and a woman loads of cacaine or amphetamines. Both get horny as fuck, but the woman is able to get wet and have pleasurable sex (very much so), while the man likely is horny as fuck, aroused but cannot get an erection or orgasm. THis is the privilege i am talking about. Do you understand the issue now?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:23 PM
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I did pretty much that. At 35yo, ~50 partners, settled down with a 22 yo, after having had 14 years of prior relationship experience. I didn't do it because red pill told me so, but because i am most attracted to very young women and there is a sweet spot of when they are mature enough for a relationship with me that is about 22-23yo. But even i wouldn't look for a long lasting relationship with a 16-21yo. It is better for me to be in a relationship with a "more mouldable" woman. I am a mentor a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:21 PM
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YOu just make shit up that fits your views. Get some data on the kind of relationship, if you want to make that argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:14 PM
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Again, i am not saying what you put in my mouth. You probably have no idea about erections and physical arousal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:13 PM
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Women rejecting you is a judgment of your quality. Of course you don't want to be labeled as defective low quality, but if you can't find a partner, that is what you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:10 PM
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So... since you women can't stand men and want to get away from us... They don't. It's maybe just you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:08 PM
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Attractiveness is not a strong predictor of amount of sex or number of sex partners. There is only weak correlation with n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:03 PM
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Cheating has nothing to do with being a catch. Men usually cheat with less attractive women than their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:42 AM
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There is no bar at 6'. Men of any height are having casual sex and are in relationships. There is a preference but what is actually realized is very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:39 AM
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What is the difference between doing it for yourself and doing it so other want to fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:38 AM
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This is why promoting self-improvement from a game theoretical standpoint is objectively stupid People do not promote this to increase their own attractiveness level. They promote it to increase their social status, wealth, etc. It's people who already succeed on the dating market who tell others to self improve, knowing full well, that they are not going to do it. You would think that the internet is full of success stories of incels self improving into a spectacular sex and dating life. There …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:36 AM
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It's not wasting time, when the family-building-relationship can be started way after that phase of dating older men as a hot young woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:28 AM
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Who says that people who date very young women are looking for a long lasting and stable relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:26 AM
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It's not at all a strawman. People do generally make a point against age gap relationships of very young women with middle aged men. There is no mentioning of it being fine if there are no exploitative intentions. Those intentions are assumed. The middle aged man is always a predator, never a good guy. It's dishonest that you paint it, as if the discussion was held in a different light.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:23 AM
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70% of men are in relationships. So no, yo do not need to be top 20% to be taken into consideration. It's fucking easy to get a relatitonship as a below average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:18 AM
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It's both, if you agree that something that most people agree on has a portion of objectivity, even though it's not measurable in absolute terms. Science has studied creepyness and come up with things that are more creepy on average than others. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:16 AM
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How do you weigh things against each other? what is the objective metric you use there?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:09 AM
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Classic woman answer. YOu have no idea about arousal and a penis. You have no idea about blood flow and a penis. YOu have no idea about amphetamines/cocaine and a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:08 AM
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Hard not to be noticed when you are on a date with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:07 AM
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I’m bi, so their goes your hererosexual argument, in fact they have found it can be a conditioned preference. Again, uncomfortable and against your beliefs, but it also shows how the brain pattern matches more so than stick to strict guidelines It doesn't matter if you are bi. The argument was theoretical in nature and does not need YOU. Link to study where "they" have found you can condition heterosexuality. To change my beliefs is not uncomfortable at all. I am a scientiest. I am used to chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:42 AM
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If she can dump you for someone better, then you have been below her relationship market value and you should have never gotten with her. Get a woman on your level, then she cant dump you for someone better, unless you deteriorate in value.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 09:04 AM
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Self reporting is not scientific It very much is. Feeling and being are distinct things, Loneliness, as opposed to being alone, is a feeling not a objective state. You are again wrong in everything you say. this isn’t true for current generations, in which I should clarify my post is regarding, specifically since 2008/2010 where anomalies between the sex’s emerge (social media/dating apps/third wave toxic feminism) You are again wrong. <image> No, this argument of eggs to sperm does not dictate …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 09:01 AM
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Baldness not being a common thing is privilege. Being able to have enjoyable sex without the need to have an erection. Being able to fake enjoyment of sex and orgasms. Being able to express yourself with fashion in very diverse ways without negative societal judgment when you stray from the one fashion style that is accepted for your sex. Having the privilige of in-group bias and empathy from other women. Men do not care about other men. Having the privilege of longer lifespan. I could go on for…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:17 AM
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Attractive men can watch porn and treat women as sexual objects and have no difficulty in getting casual sex and relationships It's the lack of being socialized and socially adept, that sets incels apart in their sexualization of women and how it is received by women. Watch as much porn as you want. The important aspect is to have an active social life with women. In incels, there is ONLY the sexualized/objectified part.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:05 AM
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You’re never “in love with” someone until you get to experience them at an intimate (ie. close, personal - not sexual, that could be a part of it, sure, but not all of it), personal level. You are always in love AT a person. Don't be a delusional romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:42 AM
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Dude, you are a beta bux guy anyway, so just take the RP and realize that you will have a dead bedroom relationship anyway, regardless of your penis size.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:31 AM
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they're just not happy for long, which is why more people are just opting to stay single. You know more than the experts on the field. Where do yo uget your information from about why more young people stay single? They get you in the door, yes. It's what's behind the door that keeps inspiring Stephen King. What do you expect with a 3:1 ratio? 60% of men on dating apps cannot find a partner by definition of that ratio. But other than that, the apps work. Online is the most common way of meeting …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:27 AM
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most of what you wrote is factually wrong. Let's start with "Why, is one side generally at a massive disadvantage? And getting lonelier by the day in these circumstances?" <image> Men and women do not share the same sex drive. Why, is one side reporting single and sexless more than the other? They don't, regarding sexlessness. They have equal shares of virgins at any age. YOung men are less in committted relationships than young women. We have no data on if that is due to preference or not. Old …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:46 AM
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There is nothing wrong with falling in love with a friend, trying to romantically date them or have sex with them and then going back to just being platonic friends, if those advances were rejected. If others are up for going back to normal mostly depends on how you can deal with your emotions and actions regarding the unrequited love. As much as this advice is given women do not in my general experience initiate friendships themselves without holding romantic intention. It's the opposite in my …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:24 AM
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Yes and no. Far too many of these relationships are utterly unhappy, with her thinking that she can find better. He's under relentless pressure to adhere to traditionally masculine gender norms to keep her from getting bored. You got any evidence for that? What is "too many"? Going to deadbedrooms is apex fallacy. You have no idea about the frequency of these cases. Being in a relationship for social standing is a valid reason and provides people with what they want. People without hat social st…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:58 AM
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How are people judging that negatively? I have received nothing but compliments for focusing on my dates rather than checking my phone, from gen Z women who are not used to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:52 AM
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They should GO TO FUCKING THERAPY AND NOT INFEST PPD WITH QUESTION ABOUT WHAT LEVEL OF STARVATION DO MEN PREFER IN WOMEN.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:51 AM
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You do know that Pinker had a best selling book on that in 2002 already. The horse is beaten to death. Everyone with a brain knows that we are not blank slates. The nature vs nurture debate is old as the sea. That we still have social scientists and feminists claiming otherwise is not due to lack of information/facts. It's because they actively want to believe something else. You have no chance in changing their opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:54 PM
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Red Pill teachings often discourage men from expressing vulnerability or emotions, framing these as signs of weakness. This can contribute to poor mental health outcomes for men, as they may feel pressured to suppress their emotions and avoid seeking help when needed. For christianity, the emphasis on sin and moral purity can result in judgmental attitudes, creating a divisive and hostile environment both within and outside of religious communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:45 PM
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I'd say they are toxic at their base and it takes a lot of cherry picking and doing your own thing with them to make them not toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:57 PM
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"the study"? What study are you speaking of? I am sure we will find a study about penis size that isn't flawed. Not pressing in is ridiculous, as body fat percentages will influence what part of the penis sticks out from the fatty part of that area. Give me your sources and then we will find a non-flawed source. Women will complain if their partner is small. You see and hear about this a lot. Not about OPs dick size. you are under the delusion that women aren't even capable of such a shallow and…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:55 PM
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red pill and christianity are both toxic ideologies
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:49 PM
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How is this not clear? Yes, his average sized penis is not a real issue. His mental health is the big issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:48 PM
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You think self-improvement ever stops? You think you just get that girlfriend and then you stop self-improving while everyone around you keeps improving and growing? You are probably way behind everyone already. Selfimprovement is playing catch-up for some years and then the regular self-improvement continues until you die.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:38 PM
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i don't even know what calcsd is. I am not concerned with dick pillers at all. I take science as the best source of facts and the methods that is used to determine comparable penis size measurements is pressing the ruler to the pelvis bone. Yes, you are a mental case. How did you get your partner when your or OPs dick size is not worth it? I have a slightly below average dick size and never got ANY negative remark on that. I have about 50 sex partners. Btw, common preference is over 6 inches, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:15 PM
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The term "nice guys" has a long history but has evolved in meaning over time. Originally, the phrase "nice guy" simply referred to a man who was pleasant, agreeable, and kind. This usage dates back to the early 19th century. However, the more contemporary and pejorative connotation, referring to men who perceive themselves as kind and considerate but feel they are unfairly overlooked in romantic contexts, appears to have gained prominence in the late 20th century. The modern use of "nice guys" w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:08 PM
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He is delusional. People tell him the truth but the thinks they are gasllighting him. He doesn't trust therapists for the same reason. He needs help, and not confirmation of his delusions by other incels and blackpillers with bodydysphoria and inecurities about their dicks. His dick is 4.5 inches in circumference and 6 inches in length, when the ruler is pressed to the bone, which is the standard measurement. https://www.verywellhealth.com/average-penis-size-5087604 This is absolutely average. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:44 AM
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It depends on if she gave me a reasonable amount of time and effort to reach climax.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:29 AM
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THE GUY HAS A NORMAL SIZED DICK AND SUFFERS FROM BODY DYSMORPHIA AND HAS SERIOUS MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES INCLUDING SELF HARM AND DEPRESSION.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:16 AM
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Sexual pheromones in humans have been a topic of ongoing research and debate. While there is evidence suggesting their existence, the exact mechanisms and effects are not fully understood. Here’s what current scientific knowledge suggests: Existence and Production There is evidence indicating that humans produce chemicals that may function as sexual pheromones. These chemicals are primarily found in bodily secretions, such as sweat, urine, and possibly saliva. Two substances often studied in thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:04 AM
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and socially inept average looking weirdos think they can get the popular hot girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:00 AM
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Can you please stop living out your bodydysmorphia with your penis size issues on this board? You are giving young impressionable men the idea that penis size is relevant, while it's just a few guys with mental health issues obsessing about it to no point. By your posts, you are a ~31yo lonely alcoholic, who was bullied all his life, who self harms because of his penis size issues. You are not helping anyone here, not even yourself. You want to get confirmation that a small dick is worthless ter…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:53 AM
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