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There is absolutely a gendered divide to this, and it's one of several fundamental incompatibilities inherent to heterosexuality. I am not making blanket absolutist claims that there are zero whimsical men or that no women don't enjoy romance. I specifically observed a disparity between the enjoyment of such as heterosexual men and women themselves regularly complain about. But I will absolutely stand behind my opinion that the gendered discrepancy is universal. All things considered in matters …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 10:24 PM
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This is a fantastic example of precisely what I said. Many women love planning these sorts of things and have a lot of fun doing it. Whether it's a birthday party, baby shower, etc. they genuinely have fun thinking about all the little details that will bring joy to others. You do not, so such endeavors are myopically viewed with a lens of disdainful obligation. Instead of having fun dancing with a glass of wine while cooking a lovely meal for their wife, such men would rather be stone-faced and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 10:01 PM
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He's also decided instead of engaging me here to be pissy at me on a three-month old post I made, which will be summarily ignored. Men who crash out over "romance" aren't fun. They're judgemental, boring, neurotic, rigid, inhibited, uptight, or some fun combination of the above. And then they rage at women for not finding any of that appealing lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 09:14 PM
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What is so confusing about the fact that different people get enjoyment from different things? Some people have fun going camping. That would be pure misery to me. Same with car shows, same with cosplay, same with literally anything I don't enjoy doing. This is what I'm not understanding. You made a whole post about why others enjoy something you don't. Because different people enjoy different things. The reason I made the comment I did is because you went out of your way to introduce concepts l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 04:40 PM
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You know, a pattern I clearly notice is that many men struggle with whimsy. This most consistently comes out via derisive bitter petulant raging at concepts like "having fun," the scorn heaped upon "girls' interests/hobbies" and a general contemptuousness towards all things feminine. It's a fascinating dichotomy that reminds me of severe Prostestant work ethic - the idea that pleasure, fun, enjoyment is inherently bad and life should be no-nonsense or suffering. If one does engage in such detrim…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 04:12 PM
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I didn't move anything. You didn't comprehend my original statement and continue to do so. This is a pattern of yours - you make some smug remark that's completely off-base based on understanding nothing I said, and then when I reiterate you claim victory
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 05:21 AM
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Yes, I know, context hard The reality that anyone can hate you anywhere is exactly the same as, say, being an antinatalist and specifically visiting r/natalism and getting yourself worked up by what you intentionally and specifically sought out
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 05:04 AM
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So that's a "no, I can't tell the difference" Great chat
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 04:51 AM
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I'm here because I like to argue. I don't go to places where people hate me, will be contemptuous of me, or trigger me because of my own insecurities, pain points and sensitivities See if you can tell the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 04:46 AM
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I've been consistent. There has been no "pivot." Even you yourself have admitted gender and sex are different. You have no cogent rebuttal to my point. None of you ever do and none of you ever will. Hence why you're predictably trying to make the exchange personal - because logic and reason are not on your side. I have more productive uses of my time. Enjoy the rest of your night!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:41 AM
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Because the definition of whether someone is homosexual is based on sex. This, again, is self-explanatory I didn't say "biological men" anywhere, this is your lying
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:34 AM
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That sexuality is based on gender and not sex 😊 Because the word, once again, is sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:32 AM
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Magical thinking doesn't change objective biological reality. Sexuality is not genderality for a reason. I "misgendered" no one. You guys get triggered anytime your delusions crash against reality. That's not really my problem
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:30 AM
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Obviously sex and gender aren’t the same thing. So then no, I didn't "misgender" anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:28 AM
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The answer to the question you asked me depends on the answer to the question I asked you. You couldn't answer. You've proven my point perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:26 AM
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Don't see an answer. Think that about wraps this up, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:24 AM
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Is sex gender? Yes or no
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:23 AM
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It is
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:21 AM
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It's self-explanatory
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:18 AM
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It's not rational or logical 🤷🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:03 AM
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I think it's a legit mental illness to purposefully ragebait yourself by seeking out corners of the internet that trigger you Like the internet is infinite bro. You can literally be anywhere else on it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 02:57 AM
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OP, can we get a live demonstration
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 12:21 AM
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It's not that deep to me. I've shared my feelings and you've shared yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 11:21 PM
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I don't care what you do
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 11:19 PM
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I don't have anything to "defend." This isn't a debate post. You asked questions. I answered. Your feelings about that aren't really my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 11:14 PM
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You're entitled to your opinion. I'm entitled to mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 11:12 PM
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Once again, you have your theories and I have mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 11:05 PM
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How quickly you decided to not engage with the topic of your own post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 11:02 PM
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I don't think men call themselves lesbians at significantly higher rates than in the past. The study was of women anyhow. "Women" now includes males. That was my entire point. I didn't say "men." That was intentional. I don't think I'd say it's a social contagion. Yes, I'm aware you wouldn't think this. Genes are not as hard-wired as you might think. I didn't say "genes are inflexibly hardwired." I said this rise of "queerness" in exclusively NY college graduates is a social contagion. Look into…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 10:52 PM
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🫩
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 10:46 PM
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Do you know what a social contagion is
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 10:42 PM
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It means a social contagion and male lesbians, since the sample set are NY college graduates.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 10:34 PM
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Thank you! 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 09:48 PM
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I didn't consider "narrating voice" and "inner monologue" as the same concept but I think I'm using a different meaning of "narrate," as in "to describe" rather than "to speak." So when I think of "inner monologue" I mean hearing any thoughts processed as words. When I think "narration" I think that is a specific kind of monologue that is repeating or describing (like an audiobook). That might be where the confusion is. The way I was thinking is something like thinking about the future of the un…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 09:34 PM
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Happy birthday!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 09:04 PM
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Fuck I love having creative, talented friends. Look at us all arguing at this bar and miring ourselves in drama lmao (IYKYK) I totally get why people like showing photos of their kids now 🤣 cause LOOK AT MY DOG. JUST LOOK AT HER 🥺 <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 07:03 PM
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I have one single non-stop voice. The closest it gets to shutting off is during sex/orgasm. I sometimes wake up completing sentences in my head. It almost never shuts off. It's not physically possible for me to have a "non-verbal thought." Like sometimes I'll think about how my dog experiences life since she doesn't know words. I assumed non-human sentient creatures think like that. Like when I sit down to eat, that triggers her desire to play fetch with a specific toy. So she'll see the image o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 05:30 PM
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So as a general rule I don't really engage with sealioning gaslighting "debate" strategies. I think it's a waste of time, though I suppose I can intellectually understand the purpose of obfuscation if emotional vampirism is the purpose of existing on this sub. That said, if you want to have an exchange with me that isn't disingenuous, I'll consider further engagement at my leisure. Have a great day!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 02:56 PM
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My point wasn't about 'cogent rebuttals," it was about personal attacks. You know, like the comment I replied to?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 02:50 PM
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Yeah tbh I still don't believe this is true lol. I learned about this several years ago and immediately started asking my closest friends if they had this. My ex claimed he didn't. Which again I can't believe because like... how?? Like it makes sense for my dog to not have an inner monologue but I genuinely can't wrap my mind around knowing words and not having them in your head to think. How do actual human beings just think in pictures or whatever?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 02:49 PM
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The comments on this post are fucking wild. "Logical, rational gender" my ass lmao. They immediately crash out like this every time she makes a post but today is really over the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 02:36 PM
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There's a lot of irony going on as well. You can't reason people out of positions they didn't reason themselves into.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 03:09 AM
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You need to specify - and I do mean actual quotes - a single fucking thing I said that was about myself. I'm going to give you a few helpful context clues as to what counts for statements that are about myself: me I myself my mine To further assist you with this labyrinth endeavor, I will also delineate words that specifically refer to other people, or groups of people: women men people humans they them their she her he his I hope you find this helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 03:04 AM
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Like I said
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 01:51 AM
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I hope you found this weird gaslighting and trolling entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 01:42 AM
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I factually observed and recounted what you did. That's not an "insult."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 01:31 AM
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Everything this commenter attributed to me is complete fiction. There's not a single word I said that was about myself. Additionally, they made up what I said entirely via their "simplification" and just said a bunch of different statements other than what I actually stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 01:22 AM
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I didn't need anyone to "simplify" or strawman my words. I spoke for myself, simply and directly and explicitly. You have zero authority to speak for me, and you are lying about what I said to boot. You are not psychic and cannot speak to "what is in my mind." I have never anywhere told men to "change their preferences." Making up a position and attributing it to me to make thinly veiled insults on me to others is not engagement with what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 01:06 AM
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Introverts have friends. Introversion is not the antithesis of friendship. Dating also exists outside of the internet. But if someone (women) are dating online specifically (something your OP didn't really specify in the title and even not in the body until the end) then we normally lack a lot of meaningful social context and background. This is an extra barrier of trust. Men without context or connections can say anything and present themselves as anyone and it's harder to verify. Friends add a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 11:41 PM
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Your OP included a lot more context than just "having friends," as Thotism already observed. The specific points of contention she quoted are about your false dichotomy that portrayed "friendship" as alcoholic drama vs the amazing friendless introverts. There's nothing about reality that aligns with this perspective, it's something you made up for your argument. It's nuts to seriously pretend like the only "friendship" experience is getting drunk in bars and arguing. Friendship isn't "large grou…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 11:20 PM
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Incompatible people are not "amazing partners" due to the incompatibility. It doesn't matter what traits you think should matter or be prioritized to the exclusion of someone's self-compatibility, that's just not how relationships work. People determine their own priorities and desires that by nature rule other people out. That's life, for all relationships - romantic and platonic. You telling them how such men could be "amazing" if only they just overlooked all the ways those men are undesirabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 11:07 PM
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I much prefer direct honesty rather than smuggling in their complaints and concerns with talk about "birth rates" and "loneliness" and such. It's about sex. It's always about sex. Obfuscating or withholding the fact that their concerns are primarily or exclusively sexual creates an environment where others waste time and energy engaging with a premise when all of their conversations will be de facto irrelevant and thus unsatisfactory to the complainer. But that's what men "shutting up about sex"…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 04:10 PM
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Where did I imply otherwise What in my comment is this responding to, specifically
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 05:22 AM
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No one said anything about "pride"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 10:51 PM
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Okay so let's just start off with how hilarious it is that (redacted) spends so much time and energy trying to police and janny everyone and then goes around trying to break the rules and pretending like they're not 🤣 Like some people should pick a lane and decide if they want to be hall monitors or rule flaunters, am I right? Secondly, your insult isn't even accurate. I avoid these posts more often than not because they're boring. I've also consistently maintained men can have whatever preferen…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 08:02 PM
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Honestly this is the biggest flex I think I've ever read on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:31 PM
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Like I said
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 05:25 PM
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The comedy writes itself. Thank you so very much for your replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 05:24 PM
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Why was she "obsessed" with the dirtbag from the text above, and how is she "not obsessed" with the current guy. Specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 05:21 PM
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You guys conflate toxicity with "genuine desire." Once again, says a lot about you guys when you pedestalize the dirtbags and call those relationships "true desire"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 05:16 PM
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That's not how any of that works
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 05:10 PM
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The point of what I said wasn't "to matter" to your, or anyone else's obsession with casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 05:08 PM
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Oh of course! It's always fun to be an angle in the circlejerk though
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 05:04 PM
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::woman takes accountability:: Men: "how can I demonize her for this" Let's be honest, you guys just hate women for being human. I've always maintained that all these pleas about "accountability" for women are ultimately just about wanting women to be mired in self-loathing and hatred because that's what you think we deserve. Here we have a woman who is recognized that she has a problem, says in her very comment that she monitors herself for her feelings but is trying to find better ways to mana…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 04:44 PM
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Sluts bad! REEEEEE Time for the biweekly male crashout post where logical, rational men have very big feels about female promiscuity. For every "sluts bad" comment, I will take another dick and my pussy will become more powerful than you could possibly imagine 😌
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 04:39 PM
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Not wanting to date bisexual men by and large isn't rooted in "prejudice" or "generalizations," it's based on a lack of sexual attraction to men who are sexually interested in men. Women aren't "thinking themselves" into their feelings. Unfortunately due to rampant entitlement and desire to police others, demands for "explanations" and "justifications" (which aren't demanded of almost any other exclusion or preference or ick) can lead to women saying things that comes across as bigotry. But by a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 02:05 PM
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Enjoy your evening
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:59 AM
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I'm not interested in a spam of unrelated crap. You are replying under a specific comment chain for a specific image. It's a waste of my time to talk about unrelated men. You can either provide a first-hand source of the person who did this "experiment" or understand that I'm going to decline further engagement
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:56 AM
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More words =/= proof
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:54 AM
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I don't really care about this ahistorical rant, but I do think it's funny when men say things like But we're seeing depression rates and SSRI prescription rates be higher than ever among men and women, Yeah, funny how much more depression exists than when it wasn't recognized as a mental illness because the entire field of psychiatry didn't exist. And funny how people are taking more SSRIs than when SSRIs didn't even exist and people just got ECT or lobotomized. I'll even bet we have more airpl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 04:49 AM
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Men themselves say this every day, these aren't "assumptions" I pulled from my ass. I'm not the one who says men "have to take what they can get" and "can't afford to have preferences." I'm not the one saying I can't go Dutch on dates because then "I'll have no options." Merely "getting sex and relationships" doesn't prove hypergamy. Beta Bucks men "get sex and relationships" too. Men or women settling for what they can get isn't "hypergamy" on behalf of women. And your expanded scope of "status…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 10:09 PM
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Guys I'm not ready to start seeing "maxxing" outside of terminally online spaces. I'm just not This feels morally wrong <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 09:59 PM
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Yeah idk why this would be a vote when it's called parenting. I feel like this is just a cover for expanded government surveillance. "Protect the children" is used to smuggle in a lot of nefarious doings, sometimes intentionally, sometimes not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 09:47 PM
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Yes, men are desperate for sex, but those women aren't who they truly desire. They settle for those women for sexual access, domestic service, and "legacy" of children. Being known or viewed as a "family man" gives men an observable boost in status. This is no different than Beta Bucking where red-pillers argue women settle for men they don't really desire either. Yet women are still hypergamous? No. Either both are, or neither is. Men still jack off to the hot women they truly want, and women s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 09:35 PM
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You guys, it's started. Men are no longer intervening to help women 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 09:09 PM
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It makes sense if you understand that the entire point of this post is thinly veiled biological clock scaremongering revisited
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:24 PM
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Cool story dude. Enjoy the rest of your night!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:32 AM
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You replied to me. Responding is not evidence of caring about what you think, it is literally debating on a debate sub. Your impotent raging at people on Reddit about not wanting to date bisexual men alters nothing about material reality. If anyone "cared" it would alter their behavior. It doesn't, and it won't. People will continue to exclude you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:52 AM
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There's nothing to "engage" with. Men yelling at women about involuntary sexual attraction is meaningless. Go ahead and call us names and throw your hissy fits as per typical male entitlement to sexual attraction and dating opportunities. It's a tired old hat. We don't care, we will never care, there's no reason to care. Your feelings about what we do and don't want for partners are completely meaningless, and the sooner you accept that, the better. Your feelings are not involved or relevant to …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:32 AM
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It is not "systemic bias" for women to pursue or exclusively entertain the men they want for private, personal, sexual relationships. Vaginas are not subject to equal-opportunity laws. I'm not entertaining further incel rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:05 AM
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Unfalsifiable claims are not an argument Not fucking men or being sexually attracted to them is not "marginalization"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 02:51 AM
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Fascinating. Yeah you're right, definitely no alignment here. 🤷🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:26 PM
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So wanting a man who is a trillionaire is more unconditional loving than a woman who wants a short scrawny man, and that makes sense to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:22 PM
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You can't have a difference of opinion on the definition of words.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:16 PM
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That's cool. What about the rest of my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:13 PM
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I didn't put words in your mouth. I said you're trying to avoid the blackpill ban, and you feigning ignorance is insulting to my intelligence. That's also not how that works. Unconditional is a binary, not a spectrum. Just because it may be more convenient for your argument to redefine words doesn't mean that that's how the words work. The number of conditions does not "decondition" the conditional state. According to your own logic, if I only had one condition - which is that the man be a trill…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:10 PM
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He's trying to make blackpill comments but thinks saying (redacted) lets him off the hook.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:00 PM
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Sounds boring. One of them (the man) should withhold affection so the other doesn't get too complacent and knows he has options. She should dead bedroom him in response and he should demand paternity tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:51 PM
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Reframing your thinking is possible regardless of external circumstances. Not taking things personally is not a matter of external feedback, it is a matter of internal resilience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:43 PM
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Idk why you are all up and down these comments trying to evade the blackpill ban by just saying (redacted). There's no such thing as "nearly unconditional" like there's no such thing as being "kind of" pregnant. Men just idolize certain conditions over others, and put their "value" stats in one or two traits vs women being more widespread. That doesn't make women any more "unconditionally loved," nor does it make men any more capable of "unconditional love."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:38 PM
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Not caring as much =/= not caring at all, as all the rhetoric about sluts, single moms, etc. shows. Along with the constant accusations of other men being "cucked." Matterfact, mens' competitiveness is well understood and internalized by their constant ranking and comparing of themselves and others, droning on about who the "Alphas" are and obsession with assigning numbers to human value. To sit here and argue that men don't care as much about social standing is kind of a silly argument. They ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:04 PM
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The exact same concept works for women - e.g.."pretty privilege," which is gender-neutral - and yet somehow men maintain hypergamy is a female-exclusive concept without consistent logic. Women aren't the ones who go on about how looks are mens' only value.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 09:45 PM
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Sure. In theory I agree with that. In practical reality I do believe in a correlation between "competent parent" and willingness to raise children in a unified household. Because part of competency is doing what is optimal for the child, and part of what is optimal for a child is seeing a healthy committed relationship dynamic right in front of their eyes day after day. Proper healthy relationship modeling is absolutely a component of being a competent parent, and competent parents internalize t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 09:24 PM
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I'm still confused how this environment would look in reality. What specifically would be different from what it is now? I'm not a man so I can't really speak to the specific messages men have received and internalized from society. But as a woman, it's always seemed very clear that money can get you attention from golddiggers and it can enhance your relationship suitability. I don't really understand this message of "money = love" that you are speaking to without conflating it with LTR consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 09:02 PM
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What would be an improved social environment?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:45 PM
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I think the reframing makes all the difference in the world, but you're still agreeing with me (I think) that that is a self-contained solution. As to your other comment, I don't do DMs. Just a personal preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:33 PM
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Lilith, this is a personal anecdotal experience that in no way destroys the concept of what I said. I never spoke in absolutes, so anecdotes aren't really a rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:25 PM
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Okay. So what would that look like, and how would such a distinction manifest itself externally in real life? Because to the romantic prospects they are still rejecting eligibility based on not fulfilling the second, thus they still aren't considering him for the first condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:23 PM
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Most people do eventually want the latter, though. We don't operate on high school standards in perpetuity. So you can make a distinction between the two, sure, but I'm not sure what the practical benefit is. Because being open to "loving someone" is almost invariably connected to the second beyond a certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:17 PM
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The fact that two things are related still doesn't create responsibility, obligation, or fault. As you've already acknowledged. A man feeling inadequate about his financial situation is still a self-contained concept. He is taking on and internalizing other people's standards, desires, etc. He is also ignoring all of the poor men in relationships. It seems really the desire is an unrealistic expectation that one's current status be the adjusted threshold for everyone else, because it's what they…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:14 PM
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100% what I am saying. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:59 PM
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That is why I also mentioned nature. My comment was more nuanced than just "single mom households cause everything and two-parent households are the cure."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:56 PM
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A practical consideration of romantic entanglement is not "making him feel unworthy of love." Those feelings are all on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:49 PM
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I suggest you keep your suggestions to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:47 PM
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I think that's a component. I think the issue is multi-faceted and a combination of nature and nurture. The male ego and narcissism exists regardless of parenting. Many men need a narcissistic supply regardless of mother coddling. This is where the endless well of "validation" need comes from. "Tell me I'm amazing and have value and I'm so important and that you need me." Me me me me me. Want my dick without effort, because that means I'm the most inherently valuable. Every expenditure of effort…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:43 PM
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I don't "go around" doing jack fucking shit. This is one comment on a debate sub on Reddit. Men are the ones who insist on objectifying normal human interactions, raging about "transactional" this and that. They are the ones who go on and on about "ratings" and "markets" and "values" of human beings. I don't see you spazzing out at them when they casually objectify themselves and all of humanity, yet here you are under my comment with righteous indignation and posturing when I'm only using the l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:31 PM
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These conversations aren't about "love," they're about validation. This is where all these narratives about "unconditional" yadda yadda come from. Because men want to be loved like their mothers do or did. "Yes you are the most specialest amazing person in the whole entire universe just because you exist." If you wouldn't "love" a man laying comatose who never interacted with you in any way, shape, or form, then your love has those newfangled "conditions" that makes it a "less pure" form of love…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 05:53 PM
2

How is this any different from the "gaslighting" other times
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:02 AM
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Can't wait to see the responses to "just be yourself" when a man says it 🍿
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:46 AM
1

Flair checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:57 AM
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You are just repeating yourself, and no - "white" wasn't "inferred" because there are more than two races that exist? Like what are we even talking about here.... You keep going on about what you're mistaken for. I don't really care. You're still not black. I left that line of questioning behind two comments ago. Your excuse about the "cultural obviousness" of black people holds no merit. Race is not culture. It's no more "obvious" to be black than it is any other race. I have never talked about…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 07:36 PM
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You didn't use "black/white" anything, you used black. Racism is racism everywhere, it's not a "dynamic" nor is it somehow incomprehensible if you'd used any other race. I'm still not understanding how your argument would have been completely incomprehensible or even mildly confusing if you'd used any other race than black. I'm also still not sure of the purpose of "identifying the reason why their attraction disappeared" when nothing changes in the end. What is is actual value of that besides y…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 07:16 PM
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So that's a no. Can we parse and examine why you felt the need to use black people and not your own race?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 07:08 PM
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"Person of color" IDGAF, are you black? Why couldn't you use your own race? Why do you guys always drag black people specifically into this? If you want to talk about "examining" things, let's examine that. Why is the convenient "go-to" in these discussions always us and never any other race? The rest of your comment is off-topic. Your thought-policing serves no one but yourself. You didn't address that at all. Because ultimately if you actually agree with me then you'd recognize the complete po…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 06:56 PM
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I'll take the race-baiting hit cause fuck am I so tired of these people
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 06:42 PM
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Also ITT: BLACK PEOPLE BLACK PEOPLE BLACK PEOPLE BLACK PEOPLE BLACK PEOPLE BLACK PEOPLE BUT WHAT ABOUT A BLACK PERSON 🤪😜🤔🤔😏😏
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 06:40 PM
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For the love of all that is holy, I really wish you people would stop always trying to use black people as your fucking pawns in these discussions about attraction. STOP IT. As a black woman, I don't want the people not attracted to me to be pressured into dating me. We filter each other out with our attraction. You are not helping black people by trying to get people to convince and rationalize themselves into finding us attractive. This only serves YOU and your need to janny everything, fuck. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 06:33 PM
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100%. Western feminist thought is a completely self-imploding concept nowadays and the rigid thought-policing, purity tests and hand-maidening turns it into a complete joke
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 05:38 PM
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Straight men start it for the "gotcha." It's such a strange logic too when they insist sexual attraction aligns with politics, because they seem to direct it exclusively at "liberal" women. There was a meeting I must have missed where being liberal meant you couldn't have sexual preferences or boundaries or turnoffs. They think it's a logical inconsistency to believe no one should be shamed for who they are or what they are attracted to, while not personally wanting to fuck those people. They tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 04:44 PM
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People react very strongly to women having attraction preferences, sexual boundaries and turnoffs. The vileness with which women are attacked for not being sexually attracted to specific traits or kinds of men absolutely reeks of entitlement and a demand that female bodies and sexual access are "owed" to men unless they personally approve of our "opt out" reasons. Because attraction has never been voluntary, and no one has ever had to "rationalize" or "justify" why something turns them on or off…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 04:36 PM
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He would have appeal to a very niche group of women. Women of all ages, backgrounds, and locations would not absolutely agree en masse that he is handsome or sexually attractive. Just like every other feminine-coded man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:17 PM
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No. He looks like a prissy blatantly makeup-wearing man. This is not a look that the vast majority of women of all ages, backgrounds, and locations would find "objectively attractive." It leans far too feminine and gay-coded. Men need to stop thinking they have the eyes of women. You don't, and you never will. Penises do not determine what is attractive to vaginas.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:07 PM
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Still smells like no "objective" spirit Your "college" gotcha is extremely weak and anecdotal. And no, I didn't see makeup wearing metrosexuals fawned over
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:01 PM
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You provided no proof lmao Our opinions are equally "worthless." Strange you say you're from the Midwest and see effeminate makeup-wearing metrosexuals being fawned over but who am I to question your lived experience 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 09:03 AM
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Just to clarify, your so-called objective proof is a YouTube video of a guy talking about an X account, which quotes a "REPORT." That's about what I thought, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 08:45 AM
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Link to these "objective results?"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 08:34 AM
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I said his appeal would be niche but it's generally a look that speaks to gay men. IDGAF about "800 matches" nor dating apps in general, but you're more than welcome to provide the proof of this. Men who are conventionally attractive have a much better balance of masculine/feminine and he's very feminine-coded. Brad Pitt was a much more fitting example. Even though he was never my type or someone I fawned over, I still got it. There are no such feelings for this guy. He just reads vain, prissy a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 08:26 AM
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He's guido-coded and that appeals mostly to men, as any gay dance club would show you. He doesn't exude strong traditional masculinity. He looks prissy and vain, which are feminine-leaning traits. He honestly also looks like he's wearing makeup. His appeal would be niche, not "conventional." You picked a bad example.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 08:15 AM
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So predictable personal attacks notwithstanding, he has a very niche look that only specific women would actually find attractive. His mass appeal is to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 08:10 AM
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Hopefully none lol cause ew. This is a man who appeals to men and not women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 08:00 AM
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Tone policing isn't an argument, or an interesting point of any kind. It's just "wahhhh I have big feels about words" You're welcome to share these feels, but I'm not sure why they would be of interest to me
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 05:29 AM
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Yes, it's called being a woman. The idea that attractiveness/looks are just a bunch of checkboxes of traits is a uniquely male mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 04:32 AM
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There was no "correct answer to my question." This is a debate subreddit. If people take issues with my logic or examples then sometimes I'm going to ask follow-up questions to clarify or emphasize my position or point. You are continuing to strawman and conflate "women should be able to tell the truth" with "women should be able to lie." Since the OC I originally replied to took umbrage with my example of "notable social penalties," I asked a question to see if his logic would hold for a more p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:34 AM
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If they didn't steal no they shouldn't be able to slander an employee Who is saying this though? Why is it so common for men to reply with "women shouldn't be able to lie" to "women should be able to tell the truth?" Where are women - or anyone, really - seriously making these arguments that people should literally be able to lie about what did or didn't happen. Did I say that? Did my post? Did any of my comments? I don't think so
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:09 PM
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If they did steal yes they should be able to say it Once again just want to take a quick second to call out yet again the hedging here No one saying "people should be able to say untrue things." What I am saying is that reality exists regardless of proof and regardless of courts. And trying to censor, control, and punish women for talking about our own lives is psychotic behavior. A man didn't not rape someone until the court said he did. That's not how space and time work. The rape happened. Ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:39 PM
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Seems like we've gone from moving the goalposts (sexual behavior -> looks) to having no argument at all so insults it is. Gr8 deb8 m8!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:36 PM
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If it happened, it happened. Whether it's "a crime" or not doesn't change reality. Yet men expect special carveouts for this one situation and demand women not be able to talk honestly about our own lives and factually recount material reality, because by talking about our own lives we are somehow responsible for false accusations and ruined reputations. And if there's anyone we should prioritize in own own lives, it's nameless men. So "crackhead Craig stole from me" gets snores, and "Crackhead …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:31 PM
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So you don't leave reviews, right? Never?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:25 PM
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Lol no, not even "if she's hot enough." You all truly can't even conceptually acknowledge that some men genuinely and truly are not as disgust-sensitive as you are. For many men it is truly not a compromise to have serious relationships with sexually adventurous women. It's so funny to me. Now you have to try to narrow the scope and context to "5/10 women" lmao just to pretend like you still have some sort of point. Still don't! No one is talking about looks, sociosexuality is a completely diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:04 PM
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If you have to use argumentum ad absurdum, maybe the strength of your point isn't as good as you think. Even sluts don't reach three-figure body counts, that is almost exclusively the purview of sex workers. And my point still remains that the most desirable men often pair up and marry women who have an active sexual past. Because unlike what you claim is "reality," the truth is that men like sexual women and the loudest opposers are the ones uptight and boring. Fun, sexual men like fun, sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:53 PM
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I've already shared what my opinion is. I do not know how much male lust directly contributes to anything. That is separate from the fact that you don't have to individually be intentional or strategic to maintain society. Self-interests are not mutually exclusive with operating with the "common good." So there's no prerequisite that our behavior needs to consciously be considered as part of a long-term strategy at the individual level.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:50 PM
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You didn't tell how anything is. She doesn't align with your personal preferences and in response you tell her she'll only have a dating pool of losers when we can all see who the actual popular men pair up with, and it's not demure virgins. It's an attempt to humble her for not being what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:43 PM
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Many men seem very easily triggered by the mere existence of people who aren't behaving or doing as they want. Whether it's fat women, unattractive women, feminists, childfree women, any kind of preference... they demand the entire world be a safe space where everyone behaves exactly as they want them to. It's objectification pathology. People merely living their own lives the way they want to becomes some sort of harm or behavior "done to" or "directed at" them, personally. Because people are N…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:37 PM
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I didn't make the requests for that clarification. Other women did, and you avoided them all. Your personal attack has been duly noted, nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:33 PM
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There was more to my comment than that. You never quoted specifically what your reply was directed to, so I assumed it was to the entire comment. Which actually included and ended with this sentiment: And the argument is that men's lust behaviorally creates civilization based on the actions they take to quench it. So I'm sure you can see how contextually I took your reply to be in direct response to that. Nevertheless I was observing the basic concept, and I still never made any claims as to "ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:30 PM
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No, you didn't "literally say" that. The comment you actually concurred with said fuck-all about that. You have conflated multiple things and concepts in order to strawman and as I already observed that is why your replies are off-base. Whether it's due to inability to honestly engage or lack of desire is undetermined. But men being raving lunatics due to dry dicks doesn't make them strong. You conflate "threat" with "strength." A toddler with a loaded gun is a threat. That doesn't make the todd…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:23 PM
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This is a passive-aggressive way of trying to humble someone for merely having different priorities than you do. Because you can't control her. Ironically you proved her point perfectly. "Yeah, okay, do what you want... just know that all the men open to you will be loser simps without options or won't see you valuable for exclusive commitment." This isn​'t actually true but you need to believe it is to maintain your worldview that no such women are "worthy" of desirable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:08 PM
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I never made any claims as to how much. I am explaining the logic behind the argument men make.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:59 PM
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Humans don't have to think long-term to participate in civilization-building and maintenance. This is a logical error - none of that is required. The building isn't in the planning, it's in the behavior. And the argument is that men's lust behaviorally creates civilization based on the actions they take to quench it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:15 PM
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Yes, that's a key distinction here that gets conflated. It's a bit of a Motte-and-Bailey. There's no reason for women to compromise what we want for men who aren't even our partners. He did it directly on his own comment when he first said "commit to someone" (which implies you aren't even in a relationship yet) with his parting words about how "relationships have to bend." They want women to compromise to get into relationships with men we don't want. It's not a "tough problem to solve" unless …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:08 PM
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You are conflating causes in the argument. The argument isn't "men spend energy and effort to have sex," the argument is "men spend energy and effort to make themselves appealing for sex." There is a subtle but distinct difference. The lack of interest comes after already having done spent time, energy, and money on all these pursuits to either impress women for sex or make oneself more attractive to women stability/relationship-wise and not received satisfactory results (satisfactory is key her…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:00 PM
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He not-so-subtly avoided this direct discussion in his other post so I doubt he's any more likely or willing to clarify that now
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:36 PM
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I have never been a man. I can't say what motivates men aside from what they themselves profess. It's an internal feeling that is unfalsifiable like all internal motivations are, not really something one can "disagree with." But when multiple men insist on this and lack of sex causes such reactivity or complete disinterest in life itself then it's hard not to see some merit to the idea. The extent of which could be argued but I don't know if I'd say with extreme confidence it's meritless.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:29 PM
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There is a specific comment chain that the comment you are replying to is a part of. If you pretend to not understand how that works in order to reply to me like what I was saying was directly related to what the "OP presented" instead of the specific context and question of the individual I was actually replying to, then I'm not sure why I should engage with you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:05 PM
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I think it's more possible that solipsistic black-and-white thinkers don't understand nuanced gray, and are incapable of comprehending experiences and self-interests that don't align with their own. So others not behaving as they do is always twisted through a lens of "not understanding." Because surely if others "understood," they'd have the same opinions and perspectives they do themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:21 PM
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You are conflating rude behavior with lack of attraction and think that creates a point. It doesn't. Lack of attraction is the default of 99.99999% of all human beings to other human beings. I don't go around treating kids, women, elderly, and family like shit even though I don't want to fuck them. Crazy, right? I'll give you the benefit of a doubt and assume you don't either. I don't think people should be treated like shit just because they aren't attractive. I also think that is an entirely d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:09 AM
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It says enough to set it apart for personality and quite literally is the definition of neurotypicality. Neurodivergent people who mask it still have a different brain development than neurotypicals 🤷 Personality: : the complex of characteristics that distinguishes an individual or a nation or group* especially : the totality of an individual's behavioral and emotional characteristics Neurotypicality is well within this definition. Regardless of whether one masks or not, their behavior would sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 12:53 AM
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Not always, No, not ever. Because words have meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 12:37 AM
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"How your brain develops" doesn't say anything meaningful, everything about us originates in the brain. You might as well include separate contexts for I.Q., mental illness, etc. Men just like to separate these things because they hate admitting how much personality matters. But it doesn't matter the reason why someone can't understand social cues; pick up nuance; is neurotic; or has rigid thinking. It's a part of their personality either way. Neurodivergent people who effectively mask would see…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:42 PM
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Neurotypicality is part of personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:31 PM
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Girl I posted and deleted it cause I'm paranoid but but like... that doesn't translate well in text lol. I didn't know the pupils thing was ADHD-coded?? I would think that the medication could cause that but not the condition itself. But IDK, I have multiple friends with ADHD and haven't noticed the pupils thing with them. Everyone is different though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:47 PM
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Girl I literally sounded like a lunatic, there was no way that was going to be a text lmao she would have me committed 🤣😭 And yeah the pupils thing is crazy, every time I watch that trainer I fear she has brain damage or something and just doesn't know about it but people just be like that sometimes 🤷🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:20 PM
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It really is omg The biggest misandrists are men and they unintentionally prove it every day "I care about my platonic female friends depending on how receptive they are to my dick 😎" 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 07:39 PM
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Not being sexually attracted to something is not "expecting" anything of anyone, and it certainly isn't entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 07:32 PM
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No one said anything about being financially independent. You are strawmanning and shadowboxing what I said, and that is probably why your replies are so off base. I suspect that is intentional though, because you don't like this weakness of men being acutely observed so you want to mitigate it by instead talking about how threatened women are by men. Reclaims your power as a man in a way I suppose because someone observed how vulnerable you actually are. The only reason men are so threatening i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:48 PM
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You didn't describe reality, much less as it relates to my comment. You said women aren't internally motivated. That is false as I already described. In addition to not being internally motivated, you said we "just don't want to be harmed by men." This is a non-sequitur to the point of my comment. Not wanting to be harmed is merely being a sentient living lifeform. This is not related to the concept of being internally motivated vs externally motivated, this is just survival instinct. Men can su…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:37 PM
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I heavily prefer dark brown eyes but it also depends on overall phenotype. I can't imagine Paul Newman with dark eyes having quite the same allure. OTOH Roman Reigns looked dumb in photos where he wore colored contacts, his dark eyes are part of his smolder I definitely notice pupils too, there's one dog trainer I follow and she has such bizarrely large pupils. It kind of freaks me out lol I also have a friend who married a guy with the "wrong" eye color. I thought for years the guy had dark bro…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:15 PM
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The match of undesirability is undesirability. I'm not sure why men think their feelings should change that. You are perfectly free to be unhappy about that, which is quite understandable... but the insistence on demanding reality bend to your feelings is the truly unreasonable part So then it's just a matter of what nerfs sexual/physical appeal in women to the same extent as shortness in men. There's a range to it and it also depends on face. There are always of course exceptions - women who ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:37 PM
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That's not what men say, directly on this sub, every single day for weeks and months and years. You're a mod on this sub. I know you see and read the same comments I do. Nothing else matters except pussy and offspring. Women say to find other purposes and men insist biologically they can't. There's only one gender crashing out and trying to revoke rights and who threaten mass violence or suicide because no sex. There's only one gender who loudly insists they get literally nothing at all out of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:10 PM
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Women aren’t truly internally motivated, though Patently false they merely don’t want to rely on men (who can harm them) Logically incoherent You are free to believe that in a society without men, women would behave exactly like men and be utterly, completely lost as to what to do with our lives or would just rot in our own filth under bridges as men regularly imply about themselves. It would be an extraordinarily unrealistic belief that would categorically deny all current empirical evidence ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:07 PM
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I'm not a sex worker, BTW, I don't engage in BDSM for money. FYI, "moonlighting" means "working." I dunno what your agenda is here. I don't have "an agenda." You made a debate post about needing sexual engagement, and how having sexual engagement lessened the intensity of the desire for sexual engagement. I said "no fooling?" You replied with a wildly inaccurate perspective of female sexuality. You seem desiring to slam a door on anything I'm saying, and I'm not sure for what reason. I will say …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:15 AM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:42 AM
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The way this was written makes me want to shave my pubes with a butter knife and choke on the trimmings
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:32 AM
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That's not how any of that works
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:23 AM
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Men not "jumping through hoops" doesn't change female responsive sexuality. It also doesn't increase female libido. It also doesn't display "competency and power." Some dude we don't want to fuck isn't going to entice us into desire by ignoring us - we appreciate being left alone by undesirable men. The sexual interest of men we don't want is annoying at best and scary/threatening/dangerous at worst. You haven't presented any compelling case or argument aside from thoughts and prayers. And to bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:04 AM
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This is incredibly delusional and unrealistic. There is no "changing it up" without turning men into women and women into men. Once again, you claim you understand consent. There is no "changing it up" unless women want to do these changes. Can you explain why this would occur, consensually, when it already isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:18 AM
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Again, such huge assumptions about some kind of obligation on the side of women here. The question marks indicate questions. I think the first step to improvement is just increased understanding. Women start being hit on and harrased by men from before puberty. We understand the sex-oriented nature of men. A lot of what went wrong in those early dynamics between myself and women I knew came down to trying to fit what we were thinking and feeling into the misshapen hole of formal social expectati…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:14 AM
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Where is the "room for improvement," specifically, between you or other men being satisfied with groping women in lieu of penetration? You say you understand consent. Why would women consent to this when we aren't already doing so? Is "pity petting" your improvement over "pity sex" or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 07:26 AM
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Seems kind of pathetic honestly. I'm not sure how this is always spun as men being so much more competent etc. when all it takes is lack of pussy and they turn into bed-rotting losers. It's an obvious weakness to have to be externally motivated instead of internally motivated
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:35 AM
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Stop making it a gender thing. Biology made it "a gender thing." If you want to deny the existence of testosterone you are more than welcome to but there's no point trying to argue with me about basic reality. Would you have been content with having no intimacy, romance, or sex your entire life? This isn't about "contentment," this is about libido. You should probably try reading the OP instead of wasting my time with pointless righteous indignation. I'm not doing anything but summarizing the en…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:29 AM
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I would never want to get pregnant under any circumstances. I would date men because I rather like them and enjoy the ones I interact with. My closest friends are men. I've never pursued engagement with men with the desire to benefit financially. And honestly even when I was dating, I was seriously looking into Living Apart Together so a man never paying for anything was already an idea I was inclined towards. I have my own house and my own car and my own life that I already pay for. I don't nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:15 AM
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Mens' sex drive is presented on this sub as the only thing that has inspired the development and maintenance of civilization, technology, the economy, etc. Because the only reason men apparently do anything at all is for the chance of pussy and offspring. This is male nature as it is presented and explained on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:59 AM
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These are a lot of words to say "men have compulsive libidos." Yes, you need to have "non-platonic interaction" to operate like a normal human being. It's actually a handicap that bafflingly is presented as a strength. Now what? Not sure what there is to debate here. What men "desire" still requires the consent of women, regardless of the number of women involved or the extent of the "non-platonic interaction." So at the end of the day it changes nothing. If we wanted to interact with you "non-p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:32 AM
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And yet, it's the example you chose. Yeah this is done, not reading any more Have a good night!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:33 AM
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The guy in the picture is an example. He's had a rough life, sure, but even without that he would be an unattractive man. Your example of "genetically unattractive" is what any human will look like after severe drug abuse and homelessness. Okay dude. If you don't think ugly people exist outside of drugs and hard lives and defects and deformities idk what to tell you except agree to disagree. There are people who are born, do nothing special, and are beautiful by virtue of being born. The same ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:23 AM
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People losing their looks on drugs isn't a rebuttal to the crux of anything I said. Barring severe genetic deformities, the ugliest people are the result of hardship born of crippling poverty. This isn't a coherent rebuttal to anything I said either. I never said anything about "the ugliest people" even your point about "the ugliest people" isn't actually contradicting what I said. My comment observed patterns of clusters about genetically unattractive people. Genetically unattractive people don…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:58 AM
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No, why do you think they have to dig through years-old posts and comments for their ragebaiting lol Or why they just keep recycling the same old screenshots
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:57 AM
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Because it can be used as a gotcha for their narratives and conspiracies. Just like the OKCupid "study" and the Pew Research about 63% of young men being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:48 AM
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I don't make decisions around sex as "leverage" for commitment, good grief. The sexual revolution means I am free to find men who don't think this way. Other women are free to use their vaginas as transactions if they want. The fact that traditional dating circles still exist rebuts your claim. People are not forced to participate in modern dating dynamics if they don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:45 AM
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I mean he was never huge in the modeling world. Definitely not as big as Natalia Vodianova but he absolutely did monkey branch and have a kid with a heiress based on his looks and subsequent fame. Something pillers uniquely ascribe to female nature and hypergamous tendencies
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:35 AM
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They bring up the inverse (Jeremy Meeks) constantly as a gotcha but that's not hypergamy because reasons. They do observe that exceptionally good looks gets men simped over and upgraded, they just refuse to classify it as hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:40 PM
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I don't think Zuckerberg is hideous. I think he's unattractive and below-average, but he's not on the extreme end of unattractiveness. You have to keep a sense of perspective and scale here. I think it may be accurate to say that people from certain regions are “different kinds” of attractive, with regions forming their own tier lists. You can choose to view it that way if you want. The idea of an "LA 3" vs a "St. Louis 7" works for certain conversations. But for my comment it's not localized to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:30 PM
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Eh, I didn't say they are willing to date down only if they have something else to offer. I just said it is a way they can compensate. There's women out there who will date men with absolutely nothing going for them just to have a man, because they have daddy issues/low self-esteem, trauma, etc. I have a friend in one such relationship right now - all she cares about is how someone makes her feel. Dude is a complete loser but "he's silly and makes her laugh" so he's amazing 🙄 She could do so muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:14 PM
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It's fascinating to me how frequently good-looking women will nerf their children by pairing up with unattractive men. Ofc if they don't have kids it's irrelevant but most of them do. Beyonce and Christie Brinkley are good examples of this. The fact that men can and frequently do mitigate their looks with other factors also rebuts the "sexy son" hypothesis. Women are sexually attracted to good-looking men but still regularly procreate with men who are bland-looking or even downright ugly. On a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:43 PM
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I would say they would both have the same level of interest. There's no reason to believe this is the case if you believe in sex-based differences in sexual attraction. This again is just a way to sneak in "women don't care about looks as much, I'm not "sneaking in" anything, you being pissy about biology doesn't make a difference to anything. This isn't "women don't care about looks as much," this is "women weigh personality more." Just because you have a pain point about "women not caring abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:00 AM
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Once again, you came at me thinking you had a challenge for something I explicitly acknowledged in the comment you replied to. You had no argument. Men here struggle horribly with relative comparisons and I truly can't understand it. I said MORE men would be interested in Sex Offender Stacy than women would be interested in Sex Offender Chad. I said MORE women would be turned off by Sex Offender Chad than men would be turned off by Sex Offender Stacy. This is a comment acknowledging both would s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:33 AM
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See, this is the nonsense about personality that pisses me off Your feelings, your responsibility 🤷🏿 I have seen some absolute scumbags have no problem getting laid. One man was joking with his date about how he had ghosted another woman after getting her pregnant. Women in my experience do NOT prioritise 'personality' any more or less than men You didn't read a damn thing I said for comprehension. Nothing I said was "hot scumbags don't get laid." In fact, I explicitly acknowledged they would ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:11 AM
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Real ones know
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 11:49 PM
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Above 30 BMI. Real ones know
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 11:09 PM
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I think Chad fishing '"experiments" really don't tell the whole tale. The fact that really attractive people can still have interest isn't newsworthy. But I definitely believe significantly more men would be interested in Sex Offender Stacy than women would be interested in Sex Offender Chad, and significantly more women would reject Sex Offender Chad than men would reject Sex Offender Stacy. So the fact that both can still have interest doesn't necessarily prove it's "the same extent." Men here…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:51 PM
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Guys can technically try to date up as much as they want, and they do sometimes get a relationship, but relative conventional attraction seems pretty standard. If a guy was an inch shorter than you, how attracted would you be to him? Do you think he could get a single woman who’s taller than him on a dating app to sleep with him? None of that negates or relates to my point. Which is that men frequently hit on women regardless of their own attractiveness. This is the point of "spray and pray" - m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:36 PM
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Mens' ego makes them think they "have a chance" regardless of how they look. Women aren't the ones who say "shooters gonna shoot." Men are well aware about this aspect of their nature. The men on this sub have created this false narrative where all men are as neurotic and insecure as they are and so they dutifully "stick to their league" and are only ever rejected by entitled delusional women who got corrupted by Instagram or Chad cock. That doesn't actually track in reality. In reality, men app…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:36 PM
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If I wanted to debate you, I wouldn't have posted under the automod buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:34 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:05 AM
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Once again, that wasn't my point that "optics don't matter." I said a victim is a victim regardless, so it shouldn't be all that confusing and baffling that a victim of a crime reports a crime. You're also not "on the hook for damages" just for saying someone raped you. It has to be false in order to be defamatory. I've already had this exchange on this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 03:25 AM
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Still not how that works
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 03:17 AM
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She can talk, but when she starts to take names or imply guilt to a specific person, then she definitely need evidence. I need evidence to tell my mom or a friend "this person raped me?" That's not really how that works. I'm perfectly allowed to say this. It's not illegal to talk about your own life. If i say I was r@ped, then it's justified If i say, u/fiftypoundpuppy r@ped me, then you will have reputational damage. So i better have some basis for it. None of that is required for anything. No …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 03:03 AM
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My point is that a victim is a victim regardless of the "optics." So a delay "not being good optics" doesn't somehow magically not make them a victim of whatever happened
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:58 AM
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Yeah, I grasped that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:56 AM
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Fair enough 👍🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:31 AM
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Uhh...no....the victims are people who don't wait 10+ years to come forward Victimhood is negated by time, got it. What about 9 years and 364 days? What's so special about ten where once that threshold has passed, one is no longer a victim. Is there any kind of science behind that, or...?? I'm not a women.... Yeah that was obvious nor am I professional so I can't rule out there being actual reasons for the delay in reporting something as serious as SA....but just as a casual observer it doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:29 AM
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Presumption of innocence is once again a legal condition. It does not translate to a court of public opinion, which isn't a real court with real binding authority. In real life, people can and will always judge you by a combination of personal experience and what they've heard from others. There is no way to legislate yourself from people having an opinion or sharing an experience they had with you, and once again it's very unreasonable of men to act like this is reasonable. That is just how lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:26 AM
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Does a woman need evidence to talk about her own life? Does it take away due process for men for a woman to describe what factually happened to her? Or should victims of sexual assault pretend like their life is a courtroom in perpetuity?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:18 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 01:59 AM
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So the only person who is a victim of something is the first one who says something about it. Interesting. Does that translate to you for other situations? For example if you come across a comment or post talking about getting food poisoning at a local restaurant, are you lying if you also relay your similar experience? Even if you didn't leave a review at the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 01:45 AM
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Yes, it's natural to want someone who assaulted you to face punishment even if they can't be found legally guilty. We agree that's normal. But once again, prioritizing false accusations so heavily in light of the actual statistics of the propensity of sexual assault and harassment means the true victims of sexual assault are the falsely accused, and the focus of sexual assault should always be centered around them. Most of the men replying to my post align with that perspective. The victims of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 01:41 AM
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Presumptions of innocence and guilt are legal constraints. They do not convey an obligation to refrain from forming a personal opinion about one's character, nor do they provide blanket immunity from consequences of behavior unless a court has said "yes, this actually happened." Men expecting real life to work this way are being entirely unreasonable, especially in light of the fact that literally no other situation or legal circumstance operates like this. Lynchings are on a downward trend I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 12:56 AM
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Noooo I was just talking in the daily like yesterday about how we need the "characters" back! I love this dude, I'm laughing to the point of actual tears. There's just so much going on and so many missing leaps in logic, but who cares because BLAM! no house husband no opinion ladies 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 12:13 AM
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If you have no rebuttal, you could just say so instead of this lame copout. I already got the whiny tone-policing yesterday
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 11:46 PM
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Firstly, The official story is that Epstein is dead whether by suicide or murder, but it's very likely he's alive and that a bodydouble was sent to jail in Ghislanes place instead. Oh yeah, we all know that Secondly, I wasnt blaming MeToo because it didnt imprison trump, I'm blaming it for it's goal and success in alienating men even more and basically trying to make it a rule that we should automatically believe all rape accusations. Women talking about their experiences with sexual harassment …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 11:22 PM
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Do you think people should be allowed to talk about their own lives? Or should abuse victims have to keep quiet unless they have a mountain of evidence for their claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 10:59 PM
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Fascinating reply. What do you think of the fact that the only person in jail related to Epstein is a woman? Did MeToo not try hard enough, or is it just choosing to coddle the others? Or the fact that multiple people have publicly come out against Donald Trump, and Jean Carroll at least got a civil judgement - is the failure to get him on criminal charges genuinely the fault of MeToo? What other failures of the justice system do you hold MeToo accountable for?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 10:54 PM
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Blogs and commenters can be sued Anyone "can be sued." If you're a person who exists, guess what? You can be sued. All it takes is filing the lawsuit (and necessary funds for legal representation if utilized). I can say Dave Grohl killed my cat because this comment cannot possibly cause him harm. If I said "Fiftypoundpuppy killed my cat" and then your boss figured out your reddit account and fired you because you're a cat killer, you could sue me. I know anyonymous sources can be used, I pointed…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 10:38 PM
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I'm not "mad" about anything you've said, nothing you could write could ever matter that much to me dude. MeToo was public, yes. That doesn't change the fact that mens' outrage over women talking about our own experiences and demands of court trials before I can turn to my friend group and say "this person raped me" is completely irrational and not how anything works. The experiences someone has do not require court validation before one can speak freely about them. Men seem to think there is so…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 10:14 PM
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Yeah, I deleted the comment because I felt it was a needless rehash. Essentially to make these things logically consistent you would have to consider yourself delusional. Because if you genuinely believe the court determines objective reality but you operate based on "what you saw," then you saw a delusion. Either that, or you redefine the term "reality" outside of a useful, workable definition. Didn't really see that exchange going anywhere lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 09:30 PM
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You brought in "falsely claim." I never said it was false. I merely stated that the employer said "this employee stole from me," much like in my original example I said "Crackhead Craig stole chairs." But you, along with several other men, immediately operate as if the accusation is false. Very interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 09:07 PM
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I also said blogs and comments on the internet. "Anonymous sources" is also a source used, so I'm not sure what point you think you have. It's not required to make a comment or allegation. That's not how our society works and it's never been how that has worked. People can talk all the time about other people - publicly and loudly - and not face defamation suits because that's still freedom of speech. People can talk - loudly and publicly, privately and quietly, doesn't make a difference - about…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 08:59 PM
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You can talk about something before reporting it to the police. I asked him why it needs to be that order of operations and I'm getting multiple dumb sarcastic replies for an easy "gotcha"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 08:49 PM
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That's not exactly what he said. He said before women even talk about their own experiences it should be reported to the police first. This is a conditional statement. Next time you want to be sarcastic, try reading for comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 08:48 PM
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Yes, that specific example, its your example after all. Believe it or not, that doesn't magically make context meaningless. You frame this whole conversation with the context of the MeToo movement, but then act like we aren't talking about public accusations. Me Too was public, but the anger and vitriol men have towards it is not just about "public" accusations, it is about anyone ever talking about their own lives to anyone else without all these conditions that don't apply to any other type of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 08:41 PM
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So you would arrange something based on fiction?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 08:28 PM
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Innocence is for the law to decide. That directly conflicts with what I quoted in my previous comment: If a court does not say a crime happened exactly as the victim says it happened, it did not happen. This is you saying that that reality is determined by a court's judgment. Not "innocence," not "guilt," actual reality. So according to your own reasoning, if the court says "not guilty" then the neighbor didn't do it. And you should have no reason to "make arrangements" for things that never hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 07:51 PM
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If someone rapes me, I'm not sure why - as a victim of rape - I'm supposed to give a good goddamn about how "serious" saying the person raped me... raped me... is. This is nonsense logic. If my neighbor Tasha steals my shovel, I'm not going to sit there and wring my hands about saying "that bitch Tasha stole my shovel." Yet when it comes to sexual assault, men expect women to have all this compassion and concern and care for the men who assaulted or harrased them. It's crazymaking. No other vict…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 07:47 PM
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Okay, so you would kill an innocent man? Because If a court does not say a crime happened exactly as the victim says it happened, it did not happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 07:32 PM
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Yes, in that specific example that you took out of context, that is explicitly an accusation because in the specific example, I am telling people "hey, Crackhead Craig stole my lawn furniture. Better keep your things locked up or inside for now." In the nature of sexual assault conversations, these are not usually public affairs but private conversations between friends, families, coworkers, and classmates. There's usually a pre-established relationship and history between the people involved. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 07:31 PM
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If your neighbor shoots Miss Moral in the face in front of you, would you never talk about it until a court determined that neighbor's innocence or guilt? Let's say the neighbor is charged but gets off on a technicality. Would you say the neighbor shot Miss Moral, or would you substitute your reality with the court's verdict? Let's say a different neighbor is charged and convicted of this shooting. Would you say the different neighbor shot her, or the one you actually saw shoot her?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 07:15 PM
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If an individual's recounting of their own lives names someone and accuses them of something, it opens the possibility of defamation suits. The risk is very, very low. Even vicious gossip doesn't result in "defamation suits" or every blog, magazine, or comment on the internet would result in lawsuits. I don't think men understand what freedom of speech entails, honestly. They seem to think the existence of defamation means you can't ever talk about your own life or other people. Defamation also …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 06:58 PM
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False accusations are rare, but frequently used to deflect from discussions about how men expect real sexual abuse survivors to operate. That is intentional, IMO. Many of the men who have replied to me do not want to engage about how real sexual abuse victims should operate, because that's a deflection from the real victims of sexual assault - men who have been falsely accused. I think it's important to observe how such men naturally respond because it shows a lot about where their priorities ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 06:46 PM
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Again, blatantly ignorant. You cannot do that either, genius. That is an accusation, and that's also defamation. If some guy stole your lawn furniture, you report it to the police and let them investigate it, and then they will accuse that guy when they have a case against him. If you do it without proof, that's defamation, and he will win the defamation lawsuit against you if he chooses to pursue it. You know I really have to say the most amusing and thoroughly entertaining part of this reply i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 06:36 PM
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This post is incredibly ignorant in relation to actual laws. What, like it's hard? That couldn't be more wrong. Freedom of speech is wrong? That is exactly what the crime of defamation is about. You cannot simply go around telling people that Person A commited a crime, unless you can prove that Person A did commit the crime that is a crime in of itself. It is normal for people to talk about their own lives. If I talk about my experience being raped, that is probably going to be within a context …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 06:25 PM
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If we operate under the presumption the accusation is the truth, them I outlined what should happen. My question was about calling into work. You never once addressed the specific scenario in the actual hypothetical, instead choosing to go on about false accusations and this and that. Much like this comment of yours. I'm well aware that if a woman is raped, your main priority would be mitigating the effects of false accusations by making sure victims of sexual assault prioritize this too. Thanks…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:59 PM
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That is what you asked. You just aren't framing it as I have better uses of my time on this post than engaging with strawmen and then attempting to gaslight me about it on top. Cheers!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:52 PM
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im not expecting you to do anything nor want to know what you would or wouldnt do, i dont know you nor want to know you, again you can speak and do whatever you want, is good that you dont care or think others perception of your words, i dont know why you are posting here if you just want acknowledgement of your words, in a debate sub, This is an emotional non-sequitur but in the same way i dont agree with your post It wasn't a debate post, it was a list of questions. You can't "disagree" with q…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:51 PM
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Would I refrain from accusing someone of a crime That wasn't the question I asked. As I just said in another comment, the responses men are having (especially the inability to answer direct questions) are fascinating and insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:46 PM
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We are not talking about lies. We are talking about a factual lived reality in the scenario I posted. My scenario didn't say "if I lie about James raping me." Whether or not one "should" go to the police and the order of operations if so also isn't a part of this scenario. The responses men are having to this are utterly fascinating, and very insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:44 PM
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You keep talking about these consequences. If someone rapes me, why should I - as a victim of rape - prioritize the "consequences" on that person by using that person's name? Are any other victims of any other crime expected to care about the effects talking about it has on the criminal?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:42 PM
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You nit-picked about my example. What would your opinion be if I'd used that one instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:37 PM
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The two aren't mutually exclusive. So can you answer the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:36 PM
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This is not saying anything meaningful at all, and once again rehashes something already addressed in the OP. "Innocent until proven guilty" is a legal concept. It does not confer domain over any individual's ability to factually recount their own lives. Please re-read the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:33 PM
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Nope, I summarized You lied, strawmanned, and made up nonsense as is tradition. This is done
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:32 PM
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Barring the examples of celebrities (which by doctrine this subreddit rejects due to those being so far removed from the common experience), most of the frustration the LVMs have with those movements is that generally speaking the majority of the ire tends to get focused at the inoffensive majority, while most of the actual guilty are usually still insulated from the consequences of their crimes as often others keep making excuses for them. This is exclusively about men who have been accused of …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:30 PM
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If you go through any negative experiences with someone, do you refrain from mentioning names when relaying it to others?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:24 PM
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Yes, one shouldn't be able to talk about their own lived reality outside of "the justice system." Because that's how life works. Once again, already addressed in the OP. Whatever the justice system is is a completely different concept than me talking about my own life. Whether that's publicly or privately. We're just talking in circles now, you have already confirmed self-censorship outside of "the justice system" should be how victims of crime operate because the reputations of these individual…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:23 PM
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This isn't Twitter, why not use your words and give fully fleshed out answers?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:19 PM
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Yeah I'm aware of your "paraphrasing." Makes it pointless to engage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:18 PM
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Okay. So if James at work rapes me, and I miss work the next day because I'm distraught and don't want to be near James, would you be okay if I called my boss and said "I can't work today, James raped me yesterday?"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:18 PM
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Where'd I say those words, specifically
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:15 PM
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Not the point of my reply
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:14 PM
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The moral implications of your opinion are that victims of only one type of crime should mollycoddle and protect the people who factually did these behaviors, because the reputations of these people are more important than truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:12 PM
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Why's that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:11 PM
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You answered your own question pretty much because you refuse to believe any woman was bad faith or weaponized it. Where'd I do that, specifically. Let's start there
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:10 PM
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Talking about your factual reality is de facto an accusation, got it. And that is why victims of sexual assault and harassment shouldn't name the people who committed these acts and should always have to refrain from mentioning an actual name. I have to say, this post is going brilliantly full circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:08 PM
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What about an employer saying "this employee stole from me" when talking about business operations?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:07 PM
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Talking about your own life is an accusation by default? So the answer to 4. is yes, women shouldn't be able to factually recount their own lives. Thanks for your input!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:05 PM
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You are preoccupied with "accusations" to the complete exclusion of staying on topic and being able to answer direct questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:04 PM
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Please re-read the last paragraph of my comment. It was probably added before you read it. Aside from that, it's very clear to me that your answer to 4 is "yes, you should be mindful of the reputations of the people who assaulted and harassed you and self-censor when you talk about your own life." Noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:01 PM
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Do you see a difference between making an accusation and talking about your own life? I already addressed this nitpick in the OP. "The justice system" is a completely separate concept than being a sentient person who had an experience with someone. "The justice system" doesn't change reality. The situation happened regardless of whether it's presented through "the justice system" and regardless of whether "the justice system" says there's enough evidence for the legal definition of guilt. Accord…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 04:57 PM
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Interesting. Re: 4 - is it your opinion that any woman who ever mentions her own experience with sexual assault and harassment is de facto "crying wolf?" Or is this a statement that no one should be believed/given the benefit of a doubt ever because sometimes people lie? Do you have the same mentality when men talk about their negative experiences with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 04:52 PM
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Do you see any difference between "making an accusation" and talking about your own life?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 04:49 PM
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Re: 4 - so if I understand you, people should self-censor their own life experiences because of the reputational effect it could have on the people who were involved in those experiences? Does that genuinely make logical sense to you? If someone rapes your kid, you would tell them to make sure to not include the person's name if they ever talk about it because of the "social and legal issues" that person might face? That's genuinely what you reasonably expect people who have gone through assault…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 04:45 PM
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Yeah I'm well aware that's how you feel from your OC?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 04:40 PM
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My favorite thing is how having a wife and kids is a sad pathetic consolation prize when they want to mope about Chad, but also men's entire biologically-based reason for living when they want to talk about how women's standards will be the downfall of society It's somehow both the worst thing in the world and entirely necessary to keep society functional and men civilized
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 03:41 PM
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Part of growing up is being able to admit when someone leaps at the chance to attack someone's character and then does approximately zero self-reflection or acknowledgement when directly and immediately proven wrong. We most certainly don't all "grow up."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 04:58 AM
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Your reasons were feelings. Saying your argument is emotional is a direct observation of your own words, not an ad hom
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 01:38 AM
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Sure! Tone policing isn't an argument in this exchange, you attempted to use tone policing as a cop-out from having to back up your confident, unequivocal assertions with actual evidence. I only became a big fat meanie when I requested the actual proof you said you had instead of providing said proof, you weaseled for multiple comments, instead choosing to try to make the conversation about how mean I am maybe next time, don't make proclamations you can't actually back up. Alternatively, when so…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 01:27 AM
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Like I said
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 01:16 AM
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IDGAF about "merit" in "studies." Give me the direct evidence that definitively concludes each and every single woman who has ever existed and will ever exist invariably deep down all want children. Wasting my time with comments just to essentially say "well I could do it but I won't because nah nah nah nah boo boo" is just telling me you have jack shit. You are making it up based on what you want to believe and not based on what has actually been proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 01:04 AM
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Evolution, biology, and subconscious thought all comprise my reasoning, so it would be an absolute stretch to say it's not based on logic or reason. This is not evidence of your specific claim. Might as well point to the sky and say "cause god" Oh, so there was reason? Yes, your feelings. As you then proceeded to give? As my very next sentences elaborated on? Did you forget the end of your last comment or something? "Wahhh muh dating pool" and "annoying" was supposed to be your infallible logic …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 12:47 AM
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I just said you would essentially have a hard time convincing me otherwise. Right. Because it's not based on logic or reason, it's based on unfalsifiable feelings. That's not unfalsifiable. Your reasoning is unfalsifiable. You cannot reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. "All women deep down want to have children" is 100% the very definition of an unfalsifiable belief. Ask any LLM. They're a highly-vocal, opinionated, and self-righteous bunch. This has nothing to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 11:59 PM
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Your unfalsifiable claims are based in male natalist solipsism. I understand you're very invested in this narrative for whatever reason about childfree women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 11:44 PM
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That's not remotely how that works. Childfree women understand better than anyone that no one "chooses" what they do or don't internally want. So we wouldn't come at it from the same perspective natalists do, which is that everyone must have some sort of internal desire they are just suppressing or rejecting due to external conditions. And so a man who can but doesn't must have something wrong with him. There's zero reason for us to feel that way, that's just natalist solipsism. There are plenty…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 11:07 PM
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Gee PPD, would I rather chose the punishment or the fantasy 🤔 real toughie
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 09:30 PM
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IDK what happened to Gen Z, but rizz is back baby
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 07:09 PM
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That was me. The comments on my question were interesting. I'm kind of undecided myself. I see merit in all perspectives, including yours. I don't think this particular example above is gaslighting though. It's an awkward attempt at reverse psychology maybe, but it's not gaslighting. Gaslighting involves at some level intentional manipulation that makes a person not trust their own sense of reality. It's much more insidious than a neg or other overt manipulation. Cult leaders are exceptional at …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 06:56 PM
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Feminists should come up with less broad ideologies and fiercely debate to figure out which could be the most sound and beneficial one. I have a much better idea Why don't the people who only handwring about how awful freedom is when people they want to control get it actually be honest about the self-serving nature of their criticism about "too much freedom," and be forthright about this Trojan Horseshit of an idea that they are so torn up about "feminist inconsistencies" (that are no more note…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 03:59 AM
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Not actually what you said, repeatedly And even that argument, addressed and rebutted
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:57 AM
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That wasn't your point. Your point was "all," which you repeated across multiple comments, and I've already addressed your logic about who has children - which is most men regardless of so-called "value."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:49 AM
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So do low value men, which renders your reasoning moot. I've already observed the reality that men want kids regardless of so-called "value." There's no special argument pointing this out in "high-value men." "More often than not" is also a moving of the goalposts from "all," which I'll consider another concession of your poorly reasoned logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:46 AM
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Fantastically well-reasoned argument. Enjoy your night!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:44 AM
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Because they don't. As is clear by your use of "all." And I've already addressed the poor logic about desire for children having anything to do with one's value, so you can either make a point I haven't already addressed or I'll consider this closed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:42 AM
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No, his point was that childfree women aren't sentient; don't know or can't possibly comprehend the idea that standards narrow your dating pool; and that men who want children have some sort of correlation with "value" (they clearly don't, which fertility statistics support)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:35 AM
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It's not fairrrrr So unfairrrrrr I don't care that I look different, it's not fair that that influences whether she wants to talk to me!! Someone needs to make this fair. It's not fair that looks affect sexual attraction!! Wahhhhh women are so shallow and superficial! Mommy make it fair!! Chad gets three attractions, I should get three attractions too!! Make the women suck my dick like Chad!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:40 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:15 PM
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I think it's weird how men assume nature always works out in favor of most men. With the "collapse" and resulting "free and fair chance at living" you all assume you wouldn't also be constantly having to be on guard against being fucked with or having your shit taken. Your biggest threat has always been other men. Society protects you just as much as it protects women. Going to be kind of hard to cry over your dry dicks when simply driving down the street results in getting your car, wallet, pho…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:50 PM
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The fact that you can't meaningfully engage with the only actually childfree woman who has rebutted your post speaks to the weakness of your argument. The fact that you can't provide any actual evidence requested proves the solipsism. Men who make these claims about what childfree women "don't realize" about our own fucking lives and reality aren't doing so because of actual things women say or do, they make these claims based on how they would respond in those situations. Ergo, women responding…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:08 PM
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This entire mindset is just male solipsism. Women don't change what they want depending on the rarity of what they want. They'll just stay single. It's not a matter of realizing how rare something is, and the idea that childfree women are so ignorant to how many men want children is essentially "women aren't sentient" revisited. I don't understand how so many men can be so confident about how many women do and don't "realize" the obvious realities of life. Most people want children. Why would ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:48 PM
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There were a few of them, I can't even remember a specific one before these posts got banned lol. That whole trend was so weird, there was such an obvious brigade. My favorite though was how they would try to get around it with bait posts that they'd invariably reply with "so women aren't attracted to men, right??" And it wasn't ever even subtle, always "Q4W: what about men's bodies turns you on the most?? 🥺" type shit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:55 PM
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Men are big mad at SmegmaLuvr69 leaving NutButter8008 because of the gluffleglorp Alpha Centauri situation at click click click-click-click clickity-click click LOL Like literally everyone online rn is talking about this and I'm just like "I mean what did you expect, his tide pod was way too high to change the color of his shoelaces" 🤣 Bunch of ignoramuses
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:48 PM
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I'll only excuse healthy (19-21) aged men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:20 PM
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There's also recurring favorites. There was one guy who would post like every 6 months about how you shouldn't date women "from a broken family"/"bad background," but he's been AWOL for a minute. There was the ESL aunt/niece dude who kept making posts about how wives should help their husbands find and fuck younger women when they got too old, and should also do all unpaid emotional labor for all men. At least we still have Esther Villar dude lolll. Bring back the recurring characters!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:54 PM
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A lot of people got banned, either from this sub or from Reddit altogether. If you go back through older posts it's a graveyard of suspended posters. The posts that consistently get the most engagement though remain focused on male grievances about sexual access, followed by male grievances about male oppression (muh paternity testing, muh divorce rape, etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:41 PM
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It's really funny. As much as they insist this debate sub needs to be a circle-jerk where women/blue-pillers/"white knights and simps" etc. should be banned or ignored, the only thing that makes this sub relevant and "fun" for them is the engagement with the people who disagree. Some of them have even started their own "debate subs" which are literally just a diary of butthurt lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:40 PM
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Supremely based Motor-Buy. People stay complaining about all the horrors of the world and then willingly bring children into it. It will never be logically consistent or reasonable or sane.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:02 PM
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To quote you "I don't care." K. Guess there's no point in further reading and engagement! ✌🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:37 PM
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How many minors are sexually assaulted by men that the single mother has brought into the home? Far fewer than the minors sexually abused by cousins, fathers, brothers, and uncles. I know you don't care about that though. What's actually "silly" is how you are handwaving a lot of the criticism made by men like OP over the absurdity of a lot of these stats. I'm not concerned with your agenda to single-handedly blame women for all sexual abuse, harassment, and assault. Single moms don't make grown…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:57 PM
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I started typing a reply and realized I was just repeating myself. All I'm going to say is that the complete crux of your reply to me completely was arguing against what I said. You insist it's just a matter of "sexuality." Male sexuality is a male 4 being able to be hard for a female 2. That doesn't make the female 2 look as good as a female 4. That's your "it's sexuality" rebuttal though. My point is that the exact same face isn't necessarily going to look equally attractive just by changing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:11 PM
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But that's because male and female sexuality and attraction just work differently and not due to an objective discrepancy in looks/beauty. Sexual dimorphism matters to looks and so-called "objective looks." There's no point pretending otherwise, that's just cap on behalf of men. I'm really tired of this posturing from the so-called "logical, rational sex." A masculine looking man and a masculine looking woman are not going to be considered equally attractive. That is an "objective looks discrepa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:14 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:14 AM
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For no reason in particular, I found this really cool website. Endless entertainment awaits. Again, this is an off-topic comment made in the off-topic section and thus is in no way, shape, or form related to the post it is on, or the poster who made it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:13 AM
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For no reason in particular, I found this really cool website. Endless entertainment awaits. Again, this is an off-topic comment made in the off-topic section and thus is in no way, shape, or form related to the post it is on, or the poster who made it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:11 AM
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There's definitely a lot of that, I agree. It seems the definition of beauty for women is overly narrow (which I think is to try to artificially deflate what they think is an "unreasonable" market) and the hot women either have small bodies with zero curves or are insta-thots. Then the "average woman" they're talking about is generally cute/pretty young women with clear skin; big eyes; long hair; good symmetry; and ~20 BMIs. That's when they try redefining scopes with "well average for my neighb…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 07:14 PM
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I agree, but I think sometimes it's a bit more complex than that. I don't think your baseline average woman and baseline average man are equal in looks nor sexual appeal. So I think even within the realm of "average," men are actually physically hypergamous. Most people (men?) on this sub either believe the exact opposite, or rigidly insist on the absolute looks equality of average men and average women. For example, take content creator Brianna Gipson. On some of her videos men will make backha…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:44 PM
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Already addressed all of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:04 PM
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Like I said. It's really telling how - out of all the people actively destroying the country right now - misogyny causes you to want to blame a small number of women who few people even know exist and who have no real power. Misogyny also causes you to gleefully revel in the oppression of women and the removal of their rights. Good man though. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:01 PM
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It's been answered if you scroll.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 03:51 PM
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Like I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 03:27 PM
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You never presented an argument to rebut in the first place. You just made childish taunts to own da TERFs. Yes yes, I'll get mine, we'll lose so hard, TERFs suck, haha no rights for you, yadda yadda Then to convince me of your stunningly reasoned beliefs you told me to read someone else's opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 03:25 PM
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It's not supposed to "make up" for anything. Women are not all the same. Some women care more and some women care less about looks. It's the same as any other variance and preference, everyone's thresholds are different. I don't care a lot about how much money a guy makes. If he makes the median for my area that's fine. I'm okay with making noticeably less for certain reasons (non-profit, student, etc.). For me a man doesn't have to "compensate" for lack of money here, I just don't care about it…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:50 PM
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Let me set the scene ::cue noir jazz::: I'm at a fancy steakhouse. I'm already there, 15 minutes ahead of time. I'm dressed in my finest silk capris, Tom Ford jacket, and Gucci loafers. She enters the restaurant. We make eye contact. I size her up, then scoff dismissively. ::Puff puff:: I remove the cigar and tell her to have a seat. She obeys, like the good girl she is. This is the first test. We make small talk. Goddamn this bitch is boring. At least she's wearing a nice lipstick. I imagine wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:12 AM
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My observations align with yours, and I think logically it makes sense too. Men can compensate for lack of looks with other things and women really can't. Women can't really attract men with status or money, at most it acts as a multiplier for looks and/or femininity. I still think most people pair assortatively but if there is a discrepancy, it falls along traditional lines. I haven't seen this radical paradigm shift that so many men here claim to. For every Simone Biles there's still ten Jorda…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:49 AM
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According to the manosphere/red-pill, hypergamy is so bad that even good-looking men are having to settle for mids en masse. All across the country, most couples are now a better-looking man with a worse-looking woman. If that is truly the case, then there should be an abundance of women at the top of the looks range who are single because their equivalents are partnered with worse-looking women. So where are these plethora of hot single women unable to find equally looksmatched men?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:10 AM
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To make up for me being nice to men earlier, here's some casual misandry to balance out my karma 😌
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:44 AM
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You are free to take me not engaging with ill- or no-reasoned arguments as proof of your intellectual superiority. You have yet to actually support your claim that TERFs are unilaterally; predominantly; and/or directly responsible for the "patriarchy returning." Considering their small numbers (and the fact that I'd bet the vast majority of people have never even heard of this term before in their lives), this claim is DOA but as I've already observed: It seems like you're trying to say that agr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:28 AM
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Yeah, I thought I was going to get some ridiculous dismissive nonsense from you when you came at me with that question in the first place. Let's be real - if a grown ass man is standing somewhere by himself in a large, wide open space and two larger men come walking towards him from the completely opposite side of the field - he's going to be on guard. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 09:45 PM
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It's not what he said, it's how he went about it. I was at the furthest most isolated corner of a park with my dog... cause I was playing with my dog... And he and his equally big awkward friend ambled over directly towards us all the way from across the other side in order to ask me if I was single. Anyone with any lick of common sense knows you probably shouldn't corner a woman with another man and hit on her. But due to an earlier interaction at the other side of the park I'd already conclude…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 09:31 PM
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It's not my fault, I've been alpha-widowed 😩
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:42 PM
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I'm literally a saint tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:38 PM
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We fundamentally disagree about the importance/relevance of force and physical strength and power. We also disagree about male nature and priorities. I don't think there's going to be a consensus here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:38 PM
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Earlier this afternoon an unattractive autist hit on me in a very creepy way and I politely rejected him instead of calling the cops.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:20 PM
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Quick Q: When was this 'religion' created? I feel like any answer you put here kills your argument. It is a dogma. I am using religion metaphorically. Native English speakers should have picked up on that. Unfortunately for you, terfism is a trojan horse used by the patriarchy to keep radfems in the conservative flock. You will lose more than you had ever thought possible with this line of thinking. Logically incoherent rhetoric. Gender idelogists are the lunatics who ran the asylum for a brief …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:07 PM
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None of that is necessary if men just oppress and rape us. It all goes back to the monopoly on force, which men have proven in the past they are okay with employing and men today frequency threaten, taunt, fantasize, and reminisce about. That's why I'm a fan of getting down to brass tacks and having the real conversation they seem to want to avoid. I'm tired of the weaseling and back-and-forth about male nature. Men cannot simultaneously be fundamentally good trustworthy people but only under th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:54 PM
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'Deciduous lesbian' is literally talking about passing lol. 🫩 "Passing" is only relevant due to the creation of a religion that such a concept is legitimate in the first place. There's no need to "pass" or worry about others trying to "pass" when we all lived in a shared reality that understood sexual attraction is based on sex; even the trans people understood that and very few of them actually tried to delude others into thinking they weren't who they were; and they respected others' bodily au…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:42 PM
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You need to elaborate on your point. I read his comment. Gender ideologists are the ones telling us gender and sex are the same or different depending on the argument. Gender ideologists are the ones who unnecessarily created the situation he is complaining about by pretending calling yourself a woman has nothing to do with your biology. Butch women are recognized as women - at least, they used to be. Now people think many of them are transmen or "nonbinary," explicitly because gender ideologist…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 04:51 PM
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... it's definitely not the TERFs reinforcing the patriarchy here lmao Literally nothing has reinforced performing gender and gender roles like gender ideology. It's not TERFs who talk about "passing." Meanwhile 100 years ago me wearing pants or having short hair might get me called a man. Then we had a brilliant idea that maybe your outward presentation or behavior didn't make you any less of a man or woman. Now we're right back into performative deterministic nonsense The exact opposite of pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 04:40 PM
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Looks like Sparky... is getting sent to the electric chair
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 04:31 AM
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Honestly it's such an ick when men perve over girls literally 150 years their junior. Like give them a chance to figure themselves out??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 04:24 AM
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I mean nothing in this scenario says their looks would be frozen in time lmao It would be sick to be able to meet your greatx10 grandparents. Though maybe pubescence and menopause might have to scale too, cause muh tax base. I might need to let this hypothetical cook a bit more... 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 04:07 AM
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What would the age gap discourse look like if we had multi-century lifespans? "What could you possibly have in common? She doesn't even remember the Civil War!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:29 AM
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I think I've seen how this movie ends, on several reputable websites https://preview.redd.it/tuhecomkj9gh1.png?width=1079&format=png&auto=webp&s=368b90705953d5bb1da71256138c119ee89cb182
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:39 AM
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The argument is essentially a question of trying to get women to choose the lesser of two extremely evil evils. Without "society" (laws and people to enforce them and a serviceable economy) then most people live lives of harsh suffering in an unorganized state of nature. Everyone suffers except the small pool of strongest men with the most resources. With "society" (e.g. women essentially doing everything men want and sacrificing our entire lives in service of the birth rate and pacifying male s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:02 PM
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Great! Better go tell OP that then
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:15 PM
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Ew, absolutely not. Frame > no frame Only one of these guys can build me a house without starving to death. At least, that's what my pussy tells me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:58 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:41 PM
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NJ/NYC. Need 🥵🥵 Although if we're talking actual voice and not accent then obviously deep. Sam Morrill, James Pietragallo are good examples of hot tenors/timbres to me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:18 PM
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My favorite part is the big brain who just hung back and tried to intercept the dog that captured the dummy on his way back LMAO Would have been a brilliant plan if it had worked. And I guess if there wasn't a drone camera lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:07 PM
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Dog racing for millennials
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:41 PM
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Your wisdom is unparalleled
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:14 PM
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This is a gish gallop of a post whose most consistent premises (and I say that very loosely) are "statistics can be used to prove that any individual woman is lying" and "if a woman voluntarily interacts with men in any way instead of locking herself permanently outside of society, then she is a hypocrite for fearing men or complaining about men or having any negative feelings about her experiences with men." The first claim I don't care to address because again, gish gallop with a bunch of stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:29 AM
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Your comment is ambiguous and non-specific enough No
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:31 AM
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I literally bought this sticker for my ex because I thought it would be super funny for a big grizzly dude in a Ford 450. I would be such a hypocrite for caring about this thing lol <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:30 AM
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You literally admitted as such. "Yeah okay but like outside of the scope of this post blah blah blah" My comment was tailored to the scope of this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:18 AM
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Sure sure but it's a very fitting equivalent and answer in any space where the discussion topic isn't artificially constrained to looks so I still felt like pointing this out. It's a non-sequitur to my comment. It's also not like men really want this either, they'd certainly prefer her looks wouldn't change during pregnancy. Hmmm. I think there's certainly something about male psychology in the realm of "domination" that gets off on ruining women. Even outside of that, my point still remains tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:13 AM
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The female pendant of this is discussed a lot in red pill spaces though it's not really about appearance Then it's not the "female equivalent." I posted this comment on the looks thread for a reason. There is no equivalent of this for female sexuality. Both men and women can have behavioral desires that differ for sexual attraction vs relationship attraction, but only men have a sexuality that makes them want to ruin everything they like physically about a woman in the first place. It essentiall…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:18 PM
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Some of this is proximity bias, absolutely. But: mens' odds aren't remotely close to womens', because men women don't claim to be "protection" for men, especially by merely being present. By contrast men routinely claim their proximity "protects" women, even before getting to actual protection which most of them will never actually do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:51 PM
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ITT: misandrists proven right, yet again This is why women react meanly the first fucking time. Shut that shit down, immediately. Go ahead and make fun of his dick. Tell him you wouldn't fuck him if it meant world peace. Don't be nice, don't be pleasant, go scorched earth so that there can be zero misunderstanding of whether he should "test the waters" again. Because too many men have zero respect for your "no," which apparently is to be viewed as a temporary condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:15 PM
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It's interesting to me how the reporters with the biggest cojones challenging Trump are mostly women. Also interesting how having a man in the house raises your odds of being killed by a man, just like a gun. And yet both are said to be for "protection."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:37 PM
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One of the under-discussed tensions in male sexuality is their desire/attraction to young, beautiful (when they can get them - otherwise just young will suffice) nulliparous women and then ruin their looks by knocking them up. Biologically, they want to take this woman and turn her into this woman. I find that fascinating, wanting to ruin what you're attracted to. I guess if "spray and pray" is your nature though, her being ruined isn't your problem - it's onto the next one to ruin. But as a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:12 PM
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The "angle" here is that it's valid to refuse to date people for incompatible cultures, and it's not "racist" as Reddit often seems to suggest. That's not the sentiment he expressed. The sentiment he actually expressed was: "I'm a white guy and most of the white people here are old, that's why multiculturalism is making things harder." The OC conflated these things directly. Whatever sensitivities you have about "Reddit" are not applicable here. I think you just read the OP's reply and assumed h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:43 PM
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Lmao no, he just exposed that the OP is his alt account 🤣 Don't you hate it when that happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:16 PM
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Multiculturalism is literally "many cultures" not many races. Yes, I know this. Which is why I keep saying him mentioning being white is the racist dog-whistle, just like the OP you replied to called out.* Respectfully dude it seems like you're picking up nothing I'm putting down. I don't know where this confusion is coming from. The OC you are defending made is the first and only person who made his whiteness part of his point about "culture." I agree this is wrong. The OP agrees this is wrong.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:16 PM
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The OC wasn't never mentioned immigrants, he said multiculturalism and directly conflated culture with race. That is what the OP called out, and yeah, that 100% is racist because he brought "white" into it. How culturally synergystic would it be if those immigrants were white Russians? America has tons of different ethnic varieties who engage in the same culture of attending amusement parks and sports games, eating at Darden Group restaurants, grilling out and enjoying fireworks on the 4th, etc.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:59 PM
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The OC is conflating culture with race. A person who grew up in Manhattan; a person who grew up in Nashville; a person who grew up Salt Lake City; and a person who grew up in Fairbanks, AK would all have the same culture. Right? Cajuns and Jews are both white - they have the same culture, yes? The "culture" argument is almost invariably a lazy racist dog-whistle. You can't automatically determine "culture" from race.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:42 PM
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Here ya go sport
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:09 PM
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Yes, they absolutely would have labeled him a Chad. I'm not required to find him attractive to engage in basic pattern observation. They think attractiveness for men is numbers and colors. They think merely having "the correct parts" is what makes men attractive and think it's reasonable to expect women to talk about men like men objectify women. This has been a consistent theme on this sub for years. I have no idea who or what princess fluffkins is. All your reply did is reinforce exactly what …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:54 PM
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https://www.scribbr.com/fallacies/non-sequitur-fallacy/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:16 AM
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Truly troubled times we live in, sister
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:24 AM
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First they came for the Blue Pilled Women And I did not speak out Because I was not a Blue Pilled Woman Then they came for the Blue Pilled Men And I did not speak out Because I was not a Blue Pilled Man Then they came for the Feminists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Feminist Then they came for the Red Pilled Women And I did not speak out Because I was not a Red Pilled Woman Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:12 AM
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🫩 What is the "delusion," specifically. Bonus points if you can provide an answer that isn't regurgitated manosphere gibberish and is actually objective reality, as is required to establish an actual delusion Not agreeing with mens' feelings of insecurity and inadequacy does not "delusion" make
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:08 AM
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Meanwhile, on another post 14 days ago, same guy says he's never had a relationship 🙄 You guys keep falling for this shit. Why? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:51 AM
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You’re almost certainly the incorrect one. Once again: Of course you don't think you overrate anyone, everyone thinks their ratings are accurate. That's how that works Your repeated emphasis and strong belief in the accuracy of your own subjective opinions is only compelling evidence to yourself. I can’t think of any verbal disagreements of any ratings of mine, or other people who disagreed with me. Most people don't care about some random Redditor's opinion, much less enough to challenge it. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:40 PM
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Depends on who you ask There's a fairly consistent consensus among the men on this sub, as I noted, that male attractiveness is numbers and colors. The numbers especially are correlated with their equally autistic concepts of "looksmatching" that ignores trivialities like sexual dimorphism because it's inconvenient to the framework. Whatever your personal beliefs are, there's still a larger pattern on this sub of how male attractiveness "should" work, and on this basis women are frequently accus…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:34 PM
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I didn't say you rated an unattractive guy as attractive. I said you overrated the male half of a couple. It's a subjective disagreement. Whatever baseline you have for rating looks is greatly divergent from mine accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:30 PM
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I can't remember, I just remember my conclusion lol. Of course you don't think you overrate anyone, everyone thinks their ratings are accurate. That's how that works
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:44 PM
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White Knight Hall of Famer
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:43 PM
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I'm going to paste part of my other comment: If this guy had posted to r/hinge saying he wasn't getting many matches, there would have been countless men there and here using him as an example of "runaway hypergamy," "hoeflation" and "female delusion." It would have been "even ChaAaAaD is struggling!! 😩😩" But now in this context of course he's a crazy looking super mid dude lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:37 PM
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I've seen who you consider looksmatched and you greatly overrate men. I don't personally find Kohberger attractive then or now, but according to how the men on this sub think men should be considered attractive (autistically broken down into a bunch of numbers and colors) then clearly he fits the requirements. So no, I wouldn't "call every other individual 'Stacy' and 'Chad' 'in university areas'" or anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:34 PM
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I think it's some of that for sure. I also think there's a bit of disingenuousness, cause I've seen too many people try to present male attractiveness as a bunch of checkboxes in order to call women delusional and hypergamous for disagreeing to accept so much nuance and context now. Men are the ones who have been insisting on breaking down attractiveness into meeting specific numbers and colors. Yet now that isn't the case when it goes against the manosphere narrative? Bit hard to believe that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:27 PM
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Once again, I was never talking about you, and I don't have the patience for the gaslighting about "no one." This is done.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:21 PM
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I’m certainly not mad. I don't care about you, where did I ping you? Where in my comment was I ever talking about you. No where. You just came in with your gaslighting "no one is mad" shit and I don't have the patience for it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:19 PM
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No one is mad Girl bye
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:16 PM
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Exactly. I'm aware that many people aren't attracted to me for a number of reasons, some within my control and some without. But since I don't feel entitled to be found attractive and to be dated by people, I couldn't care less. It's normally not malicious anyway just like many of the reasons I'm not attracted to or want to date groups of people. Like let's say for example people assume I'm fat, or come from a single parent household because of reasons. These would both be inaccurate but the lar…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:18 PM
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Anyone being mad at people for not wanting to date them is de facto entitlement, regardless of the reason or justification. Dating is a completely voluntary, optional activity requiring mutual consent. Attraction is involuntary, as are turn offs and incompatibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:07 PM
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Brian Kohberger is a good case study that disproves a lot of the unsupported narratives commonly espoused on this sub. He was known for being creepy and called out as such. Women had spot-on vibes about him, even though we're supposed to believe that only happens because men are ugly trolls and never due to any actually creepy behavior. Does he look more like the guy in the top or bottom panel in that dumb HR call comic? He's 6' with bLuE eYeS yet... still a virulent dry-dicked misogynistic ince…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:20 PM
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Yeah, but in the interest of "fairness" that's how attraction "should" work so not adhering to this is "unreasonable." Whether I find most, or a significant amount of men attractive at a baseline varies significantly depending on location. Something as minor as a neighborhood change can affect this. I attended a couple of conferences recently and was surrounded by so many attractive men. But you put me at a comic book convention and I'm probably going to have the exact opposite experience. Men h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:48 PM
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Who decides what's fair? Men. Obvs. This has been the persistent theme of these claims in this sub for years. Only men know what is reasonable, attractive, accurate, and "fair" Because men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:14 PM
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It involved unwanted advance with alcohol after hours work drink that was not well received. Okay. I thought from the overall context of these discussions, including the exact meme you used as an example and the fact that by nature this involves the workplace that the scope of these discussions is explicitly around workplace behavior. What people do in their unpaid free time is not generally what people are talking about when it comes to HR. I mean sure, same as if he broke into her house, or st…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:03 AM
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Friend of yours "had the situation" is extremely vague and passive voice. Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:53 AM
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I've worked in multiple office settings. Multiple relationships and marriages have occurred. This is really, really common. Somehow the existence of HR hasn't managed to completely shut down all non-platonic interactions and flirting in the workplace, even if the men involved aren't überChad. Women are not running to HR to avoid the "awkwardness" of rejecting a romantic overture from a man with literally zero other context or disturbing behavior. The HR meme is incel garbage, just like "getting …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:47 AM
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I'm perfectly allowed to have an opinion about plastic surgery without having gone to medical school. I find your demands for some sort of medical training and expertise in order to observe with my own eyes and form opinions accordingly wholly unreasonable and unrealistic. I don't have to be an artist to have an opinion on good or bad art. I don't have to be a musician to have an opinion on good or bad music. I don't have to be a plastic surgeon to have an opinion on good or bad plastic surgery.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:13 PM
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Why does this guy keep getting posted here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:42 PM
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I think it's silly to expect a consensus from women when men themselves can't even make up their own fucking minds if they are good people or not And I mocked the haughty tone of your post, I didn't "insult you" FFS I don't care about that study or what other women think about it. I said what I wanted to say about what I wanted to say it about
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:45 PM
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I did answer 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:39 PM
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I'll let you know just as soon as men come to their own consensus on that champ. Cause they simultaneously present themselves as fundamentally decent, kind-hearted souls who somehow will also turn into oppressive rights-revoking raping brutes if enough of them don't get fucked "Nah nah nah nah boo boo" ahhh post
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:38 PM
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An ugly face still nerfs that, because female sexuality isn't male sexuality. When women say "hot" it's a holistic take and also encompasses behavior. Men can just take "hot" to mean "20 years old, slim with a bubble butt." She can have fucking Downs or Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and they'll still thirst over a tight ass and boob mechanics Have you guys learned nothing from Haaland? Simply having specific body parts alone will never be an "elite combo" for women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:30 PM
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Nose jobs vary more, sure. Many of those aren't ethnically congruent and will be way more obvious than streamlining a bump or something. I'm not sure if I can confidently agree that "most" are unclockable but I will agree that it has more variance of realism than a lot of other procedures. I've looked at various things over the years just as tangents to other things that I've been reading about. I don't have an exhaustive list of every single doctor, place, or procedure, or date and honestly all…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:04 PM
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I think women are taken less seriously for a variety of reasons, many unrelated to size or height. I do think there is some effect for a woman's height to be correlated with authority/power/beauty - it is interesting to me that both Melania Trump and Michelle Obama are exceptionally tall women, but Kamala Harris/Hillary Clinton as you noted along with Jill Biden and Laura Bush are more or less average height. Many of the most popular/prominent female politicians aren't particularly tall either. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:15 PM
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I already linked an example of what I consider very good plastic surgery. I stand by my assertion most of it is obvious and makes a woman's appearance worse or just unattractive in a different way. I've looked at literal before/afters on actual surgeon sites, so I'm not just oversampling poor work. These are supposed to be their best work, and it's still unnatural looking. And if most of the work that is done is filler work vs "actual tissue" then my observations are still correct that most plas…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:20 PM
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It's just typical market manipulation tactics. Shortness doesn't nerf a woman's sex appeal like it does for men so they try to portray this as a moral grievance to pressure short women into feeling superficial for being sexually attracted to the same traits every other straight woman is. If men wanted "heightism" to be taken seriously as a concept they would have to avoid trying to center it around entitlement to getting their dicks wet, which they are largely completely incapable of doing becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:41 AM
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These subs are complete horseshit and no one should take them seriously for anything
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:35 PM
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Idk man, lip filler by nature puts more into the lips than the skin was meant to hold and seems to give it an unnatural puffy texture/appearance. It takes the natural creases and nooks and crannies out. I've never seen a before/after that I couldn't clock. But sometimes BBLs can look natural like Doechii 🤷🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:17 PM
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Obviously I'm not a man but idk, to me it almost always makes them look unattractive, just in a different way than before. There are rare exceptions (like this woman, who has also had a nose job that optimized her looks really well) but for the most part it just makes them look fake and uncanny valley. And sometimes takes away the character of their face. If you're talking bodywise then I don't have a strong opinion on that. Lipo usually "looks" okay I guess but without exercise or diet it looks…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:11 PM
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This is a circular definition that proves nothing. A woman finding any man attractive is de facto proof she considers such a man "better than her" under this framework, which is in and of itself a pretty unfalsifiable claim Furthermore it essentially distills down to "she finds something attractive about the man" which is no different than mens' attraction to women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:19 PM
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Q4A: who gaslights better, women or men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:00 PM
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Well I can just flip this same thing and say “there’s many women who constantly say they hate men, hate broke men, hate men as a whole and wish to be lesbian” No, you can't just flip it because women for the most part aren't actually engaging in that behavior. Women who feel this way tend to disengage entirely from dating and men. We lack men's compulsive sexuality. It's their compulsive sexuality that makes the men who feel such a way about women still driven to seek women out and fuck. The com…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:04 PM
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I think as a general observation it's true. I do disagree with the definitions of hypergamy frequently espoused on this sub as "dating up," because as lucian already observed the exact same things could be mirrored in men's preferences but are always written off because "well men can't be hypergamous and that's that." It is very inconsistent the way it is defined and used on this sub. But if we define it as "needing to respect something about the person to have attraction or interest" then I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:54 PM
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You're not really parsing what I'm saying. I'm saying that there is something about those men that they respect. It doesn't have to be everything and it doesn't mean they like everything about them. It means there is something. By contrast, men have frequently said how stupid and boring women are and if it weren't for sex they wouldn't have anything at all to do with women. They don't have to think there's anything about women to like or respect, they just need to cum in a hole. This is somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:50 PM
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That's not inconsistent with what I said. There's something about those men that those women respect. Doesn't mean he can't have flaws Hypergamy is why there's no female equivalent of a slumpbuster
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:27 PM
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From what I can tell it means "women won't fuck someone they don't respect and men will." It has nothing to do with "dating up" the way it is used or like you observed the same claim could apply to men based on the exact same parameters. It's why a man can be uglier, poorer, etc. than the woman and she's still "hypergamous" because she respects something about him or she wouldn't be with him. Men have no such requirements to stick it in a woman. This ensures that women can be uniquely demonized …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:19 PM
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Whether it's a waste of time "for men" wasn't a point I agreed with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:49 PM
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You can repeat yourself as many times as you want, those conditions are exclusive to cold-approaching and the entire rest of your post supports that narrow context as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:19 PM
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Im not talking only about cold approaching. ..... The setting (street, public transportation, at night, etc.) can make the situation uncomfortable. Yes you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:02 PM
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Yeah cold approaching has an abysmal success rate and has never in the history of humankind been the primary or secondary way relationships have formed. Since men keep exclusively focusing on this proven poor strategy as their primary utilization of meeting women, it is really funny that you attribute its high failure rate and the downstream negative opinions women have of it as a bug instead of a feature. And then you come to the wrong conclusion that the issue is which gender cold approaches i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:42 PM
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The real issue with gender dynamics is that women are Barbie girls in a Kenough world 😔 Also <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:12 AM
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Alright guys I think I've found a solution we can all agree on Men should be drafted, but only the ones who intentionally cut or scar their eyebrows. Those motherfuckers gots ta go I saw one on Instagram a few days ago who gave himself multiple symmetrical eyebrow slits on both brows and it icked me into lifelong celibacy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:34 PM
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No rebuttal, just triggered. Got it This is done
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:23 PM
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Did you read the several sentences elaborating or did you magically suffer a stroke and go blind after that quoted statement? I never implied that men say those exact words in that exact order. I spent several words elaborating on how that is the exact sentiment they convey when they go on about burning down villages and how women have to fuck them en masse or else they get nothing out of society and have no reason to care about society. Men threaten constantly to revoke our rights or just "obse…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:21 PM
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But if a woman makes a post repeating this they will gaslight you about it and tell you you're making things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:12 PM
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I'm endlessly entertained by the situation and can't wait to see how the writers get themselves out of the dead-end (heh) they've cornered themselves into with him. We're supposed to believe he looked healthier than ever from that photo, so why can't he do a live video? Why do we have to rely on "trust me, I had a 20-minute call" with him? Why did his daughter delete all her social media accounts if he's in such good spirits and looking forward to serving his constituents again lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:29 AM
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Do you think you "deny yourself romance" with all the 21+ BMI women who allegedly show interest in you? Lmao the irony in this comment man
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:18 AM
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Female attraction variance is wild. Sometimes I can definitely understand how/why someone or something is attractive, even if I'm not personally attracted. But shit like this straight glues my clam shut. Then I read the comments and multiple women are thirsting and I'm genuinely flabbergasted
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:38 PM
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I don't have one and I never think about these people at all. It's not new, novel, revolutionary or interesting to use the male sex drive for fame and profit. IDK why this would stand out more than anything else in that niche
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:19 PM
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Because the next time they will tell you how "ungrateful you are, and men built everything" without realizing that they just admitted that men would've been incapable of building anything if they didn't have pussy. Yes!! It is so fucking funny to me how they screech at us about how useless and irrelevant women are and then turn around and loudly claim that pussy access is the entire reason the economy grows. They have zero self-awareness or maybe they just don't care cause like I said, we're not…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:12 PM
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and if he does not he does not care at all I've read too many men say exactly what I said to pay you any mind coming along and trying to convince me that it is male nature to have any interest whatsoever in the welfare of other people without pussy access. It absolutely is that they will not care at all. I've read men talk for years about how they quite literally "get nothing at all out of society" unless they are supplied with sexual access to a woman. Miss me with this dude. They will let thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:37 PM
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You're now repeating yourself a third time. Your stance is fundamentally incoherent. You can repeat it a fourth time if you like and it will never make what you said interest in casual sex itself. If I say I enjoy watching the Superbowl because of the commercials, I don't actually give a fuck about the Superbowl. I only care about the commercials. I'm not going online afterwards to watch replays of the game or halftime show, I'm going directly to the ads I enjoyed. This is just how words, defini…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:36 AM
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Are gender and sex the same again? I missed that memo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:23 AM
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I'm going to repeat your original opinions: casual sex is only fun when that possibility is there somewhere. its not interesting when you know exactly where its going. These things are completely irrelevant to what casual sex is. Casual sex is sex outside of a committed relationship. That's it. No more, no less. You have been adamant that the only thing that makes casual sex "interesting" or "fun" is the potential for an LTR. This is like claiming that you like driving when you actually only car…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:18 AM
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The argument is that it doesn't really matter what women want, the point of our existence is to placate and pacify men. Without regular widespread access to pussy (and in most cases, offspring) male nature is such that it is inherently antisocial and completely devoid of empathy for society and everyone in it. Pussy is the glue that prevents men from devolving into raging, rampaging, raping and pillaging sociopaths and instead channeling that energy into being productive members of society. Men …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:04 AM
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You are just repeating yourself. Anyone who can't think of casual sex without LTR framing isn't built for casual sex. Casual sex is about casual sex. It's in the name. It's the whole point. Casual. If you require LTR potential to be interested in casual sex then you shouldn't be having casual sex. You aren't actually someone interested in casual sex, you are someone who wants to use casual sex as a means to an end. If the only thing compelling about casual sex isn't casual sex, but the "mystery"…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:18 PM
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You are just repeating yourself. Anyone who can't think of casual sex without LTR framing isn't built for casual sex. Casual sex is about casual sex. It's in the name. It's the whole point. Casual. If you require LTR potential to be interested in casual sex then you shouldn't be having casual sex. You aren't actually someone interested in casual sex, you are someone who wants to use casual sex as a means to an end.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:18 PM
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Why would "decent acting" be necessary? Men on this sub scream at us all the time how little they care about personality, career, hobbies, interests, or anything other than "just don't be fat." It's so funny to me how the standards change depending on what best portrays men as helpless victims
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:08 PM
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its not interesting when you know exactly where its going. Buddy if the only thing that makes sex "interesting" to someone is an LTR carrot then they are not built for casual sex I said what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:53 PM
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I don't understand what the potential of a relationship has to do with how fun sex is. Casual sex isn't about LTRs. I once again reiterate that people who can't separate the two shouldn't be having casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:35 PM
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I've heard it's more popular on the West Coast to be uncircumcised but idk. I've lived in the south and Midwest. Honestly I'm kind of curious to have sex with one now, but my motivation is pretty low. I have a pretty good thing going on rn sexually and I'm kind of loathe to take a risk on bad sex with some new dude just out of idle curiosity
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:23 PM
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I realized today I've never ever slept with an uncircumcised man. I've never even seen an uncircumcised dick in person. I believe this makes me a virgin, since my intact-count is 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:14 PM
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Yeah this is me lol, yellow flag. There's tons of political activists who get arrested and charged nowadays with complete bullshit. I'm sure the people who broke into Ridglan Farms before they agreed to release their dogs could have caught criminal charges. Dudes with low impulse control are an immediate no-go but there's definitely justified reasons to break laws sometimes IMO 🤷🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:11 PM
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If she "feels weird" about it then why would she do it? No, I don't think it's wrong to have sex outside of committed relationships lmao. I don't understand what "24 hours" has to do with anything. Would it be okay after 36 hours? 48 hours? 72 hours? What are the number of "hours" that can pass as a single person before you can go meet someone for a drink after having sex. She's probably not someone who should be having casual sex in the first place. Many such cases
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:10 PM
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You are the one who tried to make my comment about bisexuality in your very first reply here. This is done.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:33 AM
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That's fine, you can disagree all you want. I'm not talking about bisexual men. Nothing in my comment/question was about bisexual men. This post isn't about bisexual men. If you have anything on-topic to say, I will engage again at my discretion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:10 AM
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There's no such thing as being "demerited for love." Most people aren't compatible with or attracted to most other people for one reason or another. This is the default state of all human beings. Bisexuality remains irrelevant to n-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:56 AM
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Sticky toffee pudding 🔥
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:29 AM
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That's a name I never expected to see on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:12 AM
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I never said anything about marriage Answering this was completely optional Sexual orientation is completely different than partner count
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:02 AM
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Blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah 🙄🙄 Blah blah? Blah blah blah blah Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:13 AM
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Preferences that men can easily change or control, and preferences that include or qualify the majority of men Anything else makes women delusional, unfair, shallow, and/or "too picky"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:23 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:20 AM
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Woman jokes about life on easy mode 🥹
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:09 PM
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It's so weird to see the abrupt about-face done when it comes to "value." Men have spent years on this sub loudly screaming about how pussy is a need, burning down villages to feel warmth, have no reason to care about society without pussy access, have no reason to bathe or work a job without pussy access, the entire world's economic output depends on pussy access, LDAR cause no pussy, what's the point of life without a wife and kids, cash pussy drives everything around us Then will try to finge…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:49 PM
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What if it damages your ability to pair bond? Or increases your odds of divorce? 🥺👉👈
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:00 PM
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Q4M: Let's assume the following conditions: you're single you're not religious/waiting for marriage you're in your 20s/30s you have access to hot women for casual sex Would you refrain just because it might make some hypothetical future partner jealous or insecure or mad?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:57 PM
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Correct. Fascinating. I hope you're not an investor! But if all we have is those two years, then that's more reliable (though still defeasible, obviously) information on how the market works today compared to information from the 70s, yes. Ah, that's a strawman. It wouldn't be just "information from the 70s," it would be information across a lifetime until 2025.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:27 AM
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Okay. So - if I were to take a snapshot of how the stock market and housing market performed during that same timeframe, I would get more accurate and "recent" information than the lifetime trend. Correct? You would judge the entirety of this data based on those two years?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:22 AM
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You have no evidence that these two years are the same data for the other 24 years of this century. If you want to make claims for recent data, my link in the only one that includes the most current information and it doesn't support your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:16 AM
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No, we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:13 AM
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"Different cultural settings" is your made-up hamstering that isn't supported by the data that has been provided. Just letting you know for future reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:11 AM
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Well, there's the data I already provided, which gives us a more recent picture. No, I already said my data includes your years and then some. You lost the debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:08 AM
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These days, they apparently are. That's not how the concept of time works, as I literally just pointed out. Your data is a snapshot from over a decade ago. My data was most recent as of last year, and covers lifetime prevalence. That didn't just magically cut off in 1999, and you have nothing to support your hamstering that "this century" flipped some kind of statistical switch and made rape equal magically starting exactly in the year 2000. My data is clearly better and more accurate than yours…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:00 AM
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Thank you for that information about 1-2 years in 2012-2013. Now here is government information about lifetime prevalence from 2025. Men are not raped as much as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:52 AM
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Thank you for that unsourced information and speculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:45 AM
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I am positive prison rapes included, females are still raped many times over more than males,
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:21 AM
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I know it's probably a lost cause, but I'll ask anyway: what is your proof that men are the majority of rape victims?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:58 AM
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Single moms 🚫
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:39 PM
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Maybe she can consider it volunteer experience that will look good on her college application
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:13 PM
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Gotcha. I also have a strong preference for dark-haired men but some blond guys are definitely attractive. My first boyfriend was blond and I had the biggest crush on him. I don't associate blondness with youth, I think it's just part of an overall phenotype I'm less drawn towards. But when you're hot, you're hot regardless of hair color 🤷🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:33 PM
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Why would women "take a chance" on men just to be screamed at to "choose better" when it ends poorly?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:07 PM
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Like we needed more reasons to ban men from the medical field 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:53 PM
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He got banned <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:56 PM
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He got banned https://preview.redd.it/2scj5jm07udh1.png?width=2410&format=png&auto=webp&s=775696586495880f60b5b64bf76c30a8c7041499
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:54 PM
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Blond men not only a minority but are a subset of a subset, it wouldn't make sense to expect a high number of all women to "actively prefer" them. They're not as cooked as redheaded men so idk why this is anything to cry over.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:52 PM
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I never say it. I think it very often. There honestly is no point saying it. It's probably the most misogynistic opinion I hold but women alive today see what exists and what the worst outcomes are and still choose to gamble because love and babies. There is no fixing that and there is no changing that. It's similar to how I think the male sex drive is a fundamental weakness in men instead of the strength they constantly present it as. Some women are cursed with desires that tie them to their bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:37 PM
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This is one of the most persistent mischaracterizations on this sub and this point I believe it has to be male projection. Men think about their relationships in these terms, so they insist women do as well. This is why they think they "earn" sex or such things are "rewards" and consciously thought of as such. "Gain enough XP and unlock this level gf!" It also ties in with the concepts of "fairness" and "matching" they're obsessed with in dating and sex. A woman thinking she's "too good" for him…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:15 PM
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It's not really "highly debatable," it is a man who relocates for the primary objective of pussy access. Period. Your attempts to pretend like it's some completely undefinable unknowable indiscernible vague concept that can mean anything you want it to just so your argument works won't work on me. Words have meaning. Without it debate or any communication is pointless. It is not "having casual sex on vacation." Which, for the final time, is why your original reply to me was off-topic. I don't ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:42 PM
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it is in fact a point you have made. You didn't talk explicitly about moving countries for the express purpose of pussy access. It would do you well if you are to engage with me to understand context. The context of comment was passport bros. Your reply to me was "I've fucked women in Western Europe so you're wrong 😜🤪" Your first reply was a non-sequitur and every reply since has doggedly remained off-topic and irrelevant. Matterfact: your argument is centered around men having bad intentions. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:34 AM
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RealOnes™ insist it's different from sex tourism. Either way fucking on vacation isn't it, PPB is literally relocating countries for the primary purpose of pussy access. Whether you want to include short-term or not. It isn't a visit, it's moving. the point about western europe is that some guys can get women who have 'true choice' and still prefer dating someone from SEA or LATAM for example. This is addressing an argument or point I never made. It's not some sort of surprise to me that a man w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:39 AM
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IDGAF who you stick your dick in dude 🥴 "western Europe" isn't a PPB destination anyway, and we both know it. Y'all ain't traveling to fucking Italy to find submissive bangmaids lmao PPB is a specific thing with a specific context, it's not just going somewhere on vacation and hooking up
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:10 AM
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The tools thing is tricky, it's so specific and there are so many. Hard to know what he does and doesn't have. I usually would keep a note somewhere of random things he geeks out over throughout the year, even if it's just once, and get it for the next worthy occasion. Can you remember what's the last thing he mentioned like that? Also not sure of your budget but a nice 3D printer could be a game changer. But those are definitely $$$
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:49 AM
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Men are the ones obsessed with "exotic" partners. Women tend to be way more culturally insular, and this is also aligned with with "preselection." It doesn't make sense for men to simultaneously argue that women are such a hivemind and so conformist and yet so desirous of random foreign men whose families they can't even meet and whose backgrounds they can't even verify. And if this was the case, then this "celebration of exotic men" shouldn't be isolated to poorer, less feminist countries. Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:50 PM
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Why are these men only ever "celebrated" in poor countries with lower gender equality? If this was a matter of "quality of life," they studiously avoid the countries that rate the best for this. Isn't that curious?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:35 PM
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I'm not telling anyone to do anything. I'm arguing with the central premise of the post that these men find "genuine desire," because they never go anywhere with the circumstances conducive to it and that is by design. They need "leverage" to be desired. That's not "genuine desire." Nothing I said was about race.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:49 PM
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Money is Beta Bucking. That's not genuine desire. Hobosexuals exist. They don't need money and they don't need a passport. They need to have looks and be fun. PPB have made it abundantly clear they don't mind having to pay for women. Their issue is one of value. They don't like the "exchange rate" of western women, because the value of their money is deflated by female economic independence. Not sure why OP is trying to pretend like this is about "genuine desire," we're not sending our best.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:05 PM
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Genuine desire is chosen freely. It derives from true choice. These men never go to countries where that exists, because with true choice they would be unchosen. They are not desirable enough for the women they want without leverage, which genuinely attractive men don't need.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:59 PM
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... It's so odd how the only people I ever see bringing up these people are men, to tell us how much women can't stop talking or thinking about these women ... Not really. Women aren't really dialed in to porn like that <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:48 PM
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Not really. Women aren't really dialed in to porn like that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:09 PM
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It's so odd how the only people I ever see bringing up these people are men, to tell us how much women can't stop talking or thinking about these women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:00 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:56 PM
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Short torso, arms + long legs looks goofy af. Being taller is more than just "femur length," your entire proportions and frame usually scale accordingly Many BBLs also look fucking ridiculous for the same reasons. Sometimes breast implants too if they're on a very thin, low body fat frame
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:12 PM
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You can't coherently engage the rebuttal, got it 👍🏾 I think I forgot you were on my ignore list? Makes sense this was a waste of time, won't catch me slipping again 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:09 AM
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Dude we truly don't care, it is male-brained to constantly be comparing your "treatment" and "adjusting your standards" based on other people instead of what you internally want. It's why each and every one of men's attempts to "translate" their feels into a way they think women will agree with will invariably fall flat. You've been here long enough to see post after post after post of these silly attempts - "well what if a man took his ex to Europe?? Well what if a man took his ex to ~fancy res…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:03 AM
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Using your logic women shouldn’t be upset when they don’t “qualify” for anything more than the streets. ... you really think you did something there lmao Comparing things to celebrities is silly bruh Yes yes, objection because it's devastating to your case. It's not an invalid point just because it rebuts the claim and you don't like that. The fact remains that men are incorrigibly, pants-on-head fucking stupid if they look at how people who are far more sexually appealing than they are are bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:28 AM
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These are the delusional standards my social media is now giving me 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:18 AM
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I'm very surprised Arby's isn't on this list. I find their operations super sus
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:54 AM
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This is a bunch of deflecting rhetoric and irrelevant non-sequiturs designed to avoid having to concede that men are indeed irrational and delusional, just like the very women they angrily sputter about. I'll take the W, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:29 AM
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Why do they expect what they don't qualify for? I thought men are logical. Is it reasonable for me to be mad I don't get swag bags and free merch from luxury companies like celebrities do? Should I "expect" treatment that different people get despite the very noticeable, observable differences between us? It would just be goofy - right? If men don't have the charisma, social skills, low neuroticism, and/or looks of those guys then I don't understand why they would "set a standard" of getting wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:33 AM
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No, I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:02 AM
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It's the men on this sub constantly crashing out about not having everything explicitly enumerated all the time and raging about indirect communication and having to care about body language. To steal from GridRexx: Female-brained = easily grokking obvious context and subtext Male-brained = linear automaton who 404 errors if things aren’t spelled out to him like a toddler I've always felt like dudes who flock to The Red Pill are sheep-like weak critical thinkers who need a play-by-play book for …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:58 PM
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Ok but like Female sexuality is wrong and bad cause male sexuality default ??? So women should have the flexible low standards of men but with the discernment of women but with the sexual eagerness and libido of men but also not fuck attractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:13 PM
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Like I said, the sum of the whole matters more than trying to perfect and autistically obsess over every little part. The point of my comment is that the neuroticism about individual features is a horrible way to judge your overall sexual appeal to women. ::ETA:: so-called "aesthetic perfection" and sexual attraction do not neatly map 1-to-1. "Perfection" is boring and uncanny valley. Part of beauty, and part of sexual attraction is the humanity, the unique details that are harmoniously appealin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:37 PM
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Chet Hanks is a great example about how looksmaxxing "aesthetic perfection" is way too neurotic and divorced from reality. He's bald and has those big ol negative canthal upper eyelid exposure "prey eyes" and has women positively dripping for him, because it's about the sum of the whole and not just having a bunch of "perfect parts." Overall he presents an attractive masculine aesthetic and strongly appeals to certain types.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:12 PM
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Beagles are used in animal testing because of their loyal, friendly, sweet and affable nature. As a reward for being such good boys and good girls, they are tortured and killed ☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:47 PM
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I think it's interesting how much short women are demonized, like we make tall men pair up with us. Men usually approach women. If there's a short woman/tall man couple, odds are extremely high that the man made the first move. And height is just sexually attractive regardless of one's own height due to sexual dimorphism. Yet... most of the replies to you are, to one degree or another, shaming short women for being sexually attracted to tall men just like every other woman is. They're literally …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:04 AM
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I have been engaging you directly with your argument. Just because I'm not going to bend over and concede everything you think I ought to doesn't mean I'm being bad faith. You could have provided actual proof of your claims and I could have shut up months ago. Instead, you continue to outsource your burden of proof to vague notions of "academic modeling." Which has no reason to be unquestionably accepted, much less with all its inherent assumptions. A "model" is not reality. Reality is reality. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:38 AM
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I'm debating you because I disagree with you and you can't actually prove anything you claim but insist we accept as reality. Your exhaustion is due to not being able to support your own arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:26 AM
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Who determines for any man or woman "where they stand?" Vague unprovable, unchallengeable, undefinable parameters of models that can't actually translate to an individual level. You can't get this like a credit rating, yet it will still somehow be used to tell you that you are delusional. We've already determined that "who you can get" means absolutely nothing, because "irrational markets." Markets are irrational because of "pairing rates" (of which there is an unknown "ideal"), and people are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:20 AM
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That's the fucking strawman. I don't make policy. Never said you did, anywhere. All I've done is argue your claims, and the evidence (or lack thereof) they are based on I don't have to make some decision right now based on imperfect information. I just have an academic-style interest. I've never asked you anywhere to "make decisions." This posturing outrage is just deflection and strawmanning to avoid directly engaging with the fact I've called your hamstering bullshit out with receipts. You don…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:28 PM
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What would them being "cognizant of the injury they have suffered" look like in reality, exactly Or is this one of those circular reasoning arguments, where any bald man who hasn't gone crazy and killed himself is de facto "not aware of the injury he's suffered," and any man who has gone crazy and killed himself because he's bald is based and red-pilled about his reality
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:42 PM
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Oh definitely. Balding men are constantly going crazy and dying because of their baldness and literally nothing else. That's why it's been going on for 300,000 years Nothing but pure facts and logic to see here, folks
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:29 PM
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Don't really think there's any common ground between us. Have a good one!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:34 PM
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This entire comment is a complete non-sequitur to what it is replying to. In addition: you can't possibly know you were "ghosted" because you didn't immediately give them dick 🙄 holy ego Batman. This is where Occam's Razor led you? Not no chemistry, not incompatibility... but every time you were "ghosted" it was always because you didn't immediately try to fuck them?? Is that what they directly told you, in their own words? I can't, nor do I have any desire to engage with your personal life, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:19 PM
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1) I'm positive you have zero stats for your claim. 2) People looking for LTRs on a dating app are not going to waste their time with any men who are looking to hookup but are maybe possibly interested in commitment on the off chance he finds her worthy enough. It's a waste of their time This will only be considered by women who are only open to short-term (very rare and can be very picky), or women who are also "short-term, open to long-term" (essentially the same parameters applicable)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:58 PM
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Short term, open to long? Dude isn't good looking enough or compelling enough for the age range of the market he's in, he's 26 in one of the biggest cities in the country. Any woman interested in LTR is going to write him off and any woman interested in STR has hundreds of better options just on her block in NYC. He's a small fish in a big pond, even with NYC's favorable gender skew. Be interested to see the women he was swiping on and liking but he didn't show that. He could have censored their…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:20 PM
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People, both male and female, can be insecure and triggered by the preferences they see others express. If they see traits they possess be reflected in someone else's preferences as undesirable, they may feel personally attacked regardless of how the sentiment was conveyed. OTOH, there's absolutely a number of people who go out of their way to be belittling and insulting when they express their preferences, or prefer to express their preferences by attacking those who don't fit them instead of f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:06 PM
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The correct apple-to-apple comparisons would have been if you'd compared women living their lives autonomously to men living their lives autonomously. Instead, you compared a woman living her life autonomously to a man trying to control that, and then you sit back and ask why these things are judged differently. L post
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:26 PM
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Bob, still curious to know where exactly the ​insane strawman is. Inte​resting that you continue to repeat ​exactly what I said while trying to claim I've unfairly misrepresented your positions. In your reply above, you hem and haw about "it isn't clear what's going on now." Above is about "possibilities," not certainties. And yet in the linked comment, we remove all such ambiguity: It is true that many women are deluded about their own mate value or what they can land. I thought what was going …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:43 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:46 AM
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Sometimes, there are posts that are clearly made trying to ham-fistedly tie a viral moment to a completely unrelated long-standing personal grievance, and in doing so requires an absurd number of non-sequiturs; leaps in logic; and contorted reasoning. This is one of those posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:56 AM
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Amazing how they had all that free time to pursue their passions I wonder if those two things are related 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:08 AM
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Eh, I don't disagree he'd look better (I think handsome is a bit of a stretch) but I disagree that that's a matter of coloring alone. That's kind of changing the context. Albino POC don't look weird because of their coloring, they look weird because their coloring is incongruent with their features. OTOH Tom Holland isn't considered ugly just because he has brown hair and brown eyes. Would him being blond/blue really make a difference in his popularity?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:34 AM
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A lot of us been known this. It's just the JBW halo doing its thang. How the features look all put together has always mattered more to looks than coloring.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:22 PM
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I'm on the left but I'm black and I don't trust a hell of whole lot of people on my side of the aisle like Planter. None of this is shocking nor proves anything. Say it louder for the people in the back. He's always been a right fucking narcissist asshole, even staying in the race despite his wife's disclosure about him cheating at the beginning of his marriage. But he thought he was better than everyone else (typical for certain people from certain backgrounds) and his massive ego wouldn't let …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:38 PM
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You clearly didn't read what I said. I explicitly said he doesn't have "western ancestry." I asked you to tell me, specifically, how his behavior differs from white men of his nationality. What is his "culture?" Please, tell me how the "behavior" of my brother and Dad - black Americans - is so radically different than white men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:29 PM
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Western Men definition - men in a large overall group who are both ethnically AND culturally national citizens of: > the British lsles: England, Ireland, Northern Island, Scotland, Wales, other islands > British isles ancestry: USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand Continental Western Europe: (French) France, Belgium, New Caledonia (Germanic) Netherlands, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, (Scandinavian) Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, lceland Southern Europe/lberian: Italy, Spain, Portugal, Greece …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:19 PM
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Yeah I've heard about your models, and I've consistently read you speak with absolute confidence the most absurd things about how female attraction works. As a man. You will give lip service to the idea of being wrong or the idea that "there's not enough data to know" or "the science is still out" or "the information is murky," and then turn around and repeatedly make absolute claims about how women work and why and how women are wrong. You say "everything I've written is an insane strawman," an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:04 AM
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You can't convince these dudes that money isn't literally arousing to women. I've long stopped trying. I guess we'd all be flicking our beans to banks and gold bar porn would exist if money was sexually attractive, and yet... not really a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:20 AM
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No no no, you see at the airport when they check for ID and passports they also ask "did you get women's approval for this, sir?? 🤨" And if no then no flight for you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:03 PM
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His angle has pretty consistently been women are delusional but it's pointless to yell at us individually. Instead, women need to agree with men that women are responsible for pairing up with men, fucking them enthusiastically and having multiple kids because otherwise men will be violent agents of chaos and society will fall into ruin. Apparently the biggest factor preventing all of this from meshing the way it needs to is women being delusional via a variety of causes. Social media making us "…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:53 PM
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Being a soap opera writer must be so much fucking fun. Imagine being able to write campy fanfiction into reality with a multi-million dollar budget
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:44 PM
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Once again, there's no objective, official "percentiles" anywhere, it's just men's feelz that who they think ought to be attracted to them isn't, according to their own feelings of their own attractiveness. Because men with their male sexuality get to be the official arbitrators of female arousal. And women disagreeing with mens' opinions of their own attractiveness means women are delusional. Because men get to determine their own league and womens', and womens' opinions only count if they agre…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:31 PM
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Hip dips have never stopped a dick from getting hard, and we all know it This obviously manufactured, inorganic negging attempt just makes men look sassy and childish. Like most complaints on this sub I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:53 AM
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I remember a photo of your face with your arms raised bent backwards. Your elbows were showing. You were clearly fit and attractive. You're hot. Don't get surgery, get therapy. I've also had body dysmorphia so I know the words of a stranger aren't going to change what you feel when you look in the mirror but please know getting surgery or getting gaunt would nerf your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:09 AM
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Boyo I'm legit confused cause I'm pretty sure you've posted a photo of yourself here before and you're legit hot. Where is this all coming from?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:03 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:57 AM
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So my aunt is kind of a passport sis and it's so fucking funny to me. She's remarried to a Pakistani man and they've been married like 15 years now. I'm pretty sure they've never once had sex. She has children (all grown) from her first marriage and he has children from his ex-wife I assume, who all still live in Pakistan. One of her kids is super failure to launched and repeatedly boomerangs back to live with her. He hates all her children and has long been trying to get his children here to mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:17 AM
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It's the rampant insecurity that manifests itself in a number of undesirable traits - paranoia, controlling behavior, sexual shittests, etc. They feel, with varying degrees of accuracy, that they don't have any inherently desirable traits but they still have male biology that screams at them to cum in holes. So women need to be berated and shamed into relationships with them but just as importantly - prevented from leaving
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:23 PM
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There are other male mods who are active, I assure you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:17 PM
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There are multiple male mods 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:53 PM
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Male thirst is due to male biology. From that all else follows Unattractive, poorly socialized/ND men can't just show up on a campus dick in hand and expect to land a partner because of gender ratios. Female biology means below a certain standard of overall attractiveness, they will just stay single instead of laying under some dude. The idea that "the market" can change in a way based on ratios that will make most men highly sought-after is a fantasy ::edit:: replying to u/Particular_Trade6308 …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:00 PM
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Please describe the appropriate amount of effort you'd find appropriate for an average woman to expect from a man while dating. So far, we've established that it's unreasonable for an average woman to expect: a man to plan a date effort to be put into planning the date And.... dassit And that all, somehow according to your thesis, is because these average women don't understand they're not worth that level of effort. So what should the average woman expect in exchange for the bare minimum of bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:01 AM
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Counterpoint: that sweet, sweet PPD street cred 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:39 AM
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Shh, let him cook. Nothing bad comes out of admitting you've committed crimes online
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:31 AM
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Amusingly enough he looked better young. He does boyish cute better than he does masculine handsome. Many such cases, DiCaprio is another Still
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:14 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:13 PM
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I wouldn't take it personally. It happens to me too. I really do think it's a bot of some sort based on how quickly it happens sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:13 PM
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Part of choosing better 🤷🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:46 PM
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I don't think what she said and what I said are mutually exclusive, I think they are aligned. I'm someone like she originally described 🤷🏿 and still a man's sexual imperatives don't mean anything to me. I wouldn't date someone I'd hook up with. A man throwing a bitchfit about that and him needing validation from me from hooking up doesn't change my feelings. But I have experienced and observed men being very bitchy about that, multiple times. Because to the men on this sub (who, according to las…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:37 PM
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They have "casual use only" and "LTR" categories regardless, which is functionally the exact same thing. Their reproductive strategies will never align 1-to-1 with women's because men and women are different. So this response isn't really a gotcha unless you expect women and men to be the same, it's like a woman telling you "well a woman would allow both the LTR and hookup guy to take her out to dinner." That's great but that's not what either gender values. Men can find a lot of women who will …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:09 PM
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And then they have the nerve to continuously feign righteous indignation and sputter about "wHy Is MaLe SeXuAlItY dEmOnIzEd" lmao. It's goofy af
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:02 PM
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🤣🤣😭
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:34 PM
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"Women use vague language. No I will not be elaborating"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:09 PM
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They never have any fucking clue. It's so predictable
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:32 AM
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"Don't ask the fish, ask the fisherman" - women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:31 AM
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Hi, I'm a childless single 44-year-old man. I work at a grocery store and enjoy UFC fights and cuck porn. Here's my thousand-word rant about mandatory paternity testing and prenups
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:28 PM
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What, exactly, do you think the options available are for an 8-month pregnancy dude
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:52 PM
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Fake?? 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:46 PM
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the one on the left is age restricted and im not signing in to watch it. so Shame, she's pretty badass
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:28 PM
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Q4M: who would you rather take on in a dark dead-end alleyway Her or her?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:23 PM
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There's no uniform number of times per day to feed your dog just like there's no uniform number of times per day humans eat. I have friends who feed dry food 2x a day. I have friends who keep dry food freely fed and feed wet food once a day. I used to feed my dog twice a day but she stopped eating both meals so now I just do dry/wet food combo once a day. Depends on your dog's needs, breed, and activity level. And also I guess your schedule
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:00 PM
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You get me! It's nice to have the backup but at the same time I'm like "but you're baby 🥺" lol he's 36
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:26 AM
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Fair enough lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:25 AM
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Sounds like your parents did a great job!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:35 AM
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Lol well I think probably most sisters are shorter than brothers no matter what the birth order! But even so, it doesn't seem to affect my own feelings of protectiveness. Like I know he's taller/stronger but I'm still going to get involved if he's in trouble, wouldn't even think twice about it. His fights are my fights 🤷🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:34 AM
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Interesting. I would think the age gap would probably be a significant factor too, but it's interesting that even the brother 3 years younger never exhibited protective traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:24 AM
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Its also logic, just imagine following scenario. 58 Balding dude goes up to a LA Baddie with 15k Followers. There is not enough Words in the dictionairy that can make him pull her. Is that not what the "average EE/Balkans couple" meme pokes fun at??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:20 PM
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Great, so I guess all the complaints from men about how "no one ever told them" blah blah blah were all just in my head. It turns out men have always been just as perceptive and socially aware as women! Shut er down boys, we've finally solved gender
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:20 PM
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Hi, I was born on the small island of Menarajpakurabukistan, and have lived here my entire life. Here is my poorly written diatribe about how hookup culture has ruined women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:26 PM
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Q4W with younger male siblings: do your brothers take on a protective/chivalrous role towards you? I'm recently realizing that my younger brother does and it's very interesting to me. As the older sibling, I feel very protective of him. I wonder how much or how little my age makes when it comes to his feelings about me. I guess younger brothers with older sisters can chime in too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:19 PM
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Is this the response to "having a boyfriend is embarrassing?" Cause if so... bold strategy Cotton
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:54 PM
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The scope of the discussion is not about who built society or some macro assessment of who deserves credit for anything. Do you know how a debate works? The scope of my rebuttal is about those things If you can't put two and two together then IDK what to tell you dude According to men these discussions are actually very relevant. Your title says that it isn't. In case you've forgotten: For the most part, the idea of "unpaid domestic labor" either doesn't exist or isn't relevant It most certainly…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:51 PM
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The fact that men sit on the sub every single day and posture about how "men built society" and "men keep society running" proves this argument a bald-faced lie It's extremely relevant that the only labor that ever counts or is considered meaningful, important, and productive is the labor that men do for cash paper money
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:15 PM
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Seems like the most desirable men would fuck other mens slut wives. I have no idea how we got here. All I said was that people who like to fuck usually end up with other people who like to fuck. That has nothing to do with "fucking other mens' wives." I am just sadden and depressed by the women making porn and being such extreme sluts. I have options but the state of women makes me sad and depressed. "nOt An N-cOuNt PoSt" - yeah, we all knew that was trash. It's weird for your entire mental stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:26 PM
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"Being into" a romantic partner almost invariably includes sexual attraction by default. It's very strange to try to pretend otherwise dude If a dude on here said he wanted a partner who was "really into" him, there is no one who is going to interpret that as being completely devoid of sexual attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:21 AM
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Lmao disingenuous af
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:07 AM
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The context of this specific exchange is specifically about "being into" these men as a woman <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:57 AM
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If you were a woman, you wouldn't be sexually attracted to someone you had to train like a child or a dog. That's just male solipsism lmao In real life you'd find it just as undesirable and icky as women already do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:19 AM
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Men: wahhhh muh unconditional love 😠😠 y no unconditional love you heartless cunts Also men: why don't you want to change yourself for men?? 🥺🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:58 AM
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It doesn't change nature. Gonna put you down for the "current gen" can only learn from other equally (in)experienced men - in which case "evo psych" concepts are completely irrelevant Young men who have only been adults for three years stay claiming that a world they never even lived through was so insurmountably, radically different than what exists today. Which really just highlights their lack of life experience lmao But you can't tell them shit. That's okay, we all know it all when we're you…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:51 AM
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I didn't say the feminism didn't exist, just that there was less. So there's quantifiably "more feminism" now than when? And how are you measuring that, exactly? Finally, how is this "feminism delta" changing female nature and making inexperienced men who have been adults for three years experts on women? There wasn't creepshaming or MeToo. That's not "feminism." Women talking about their experiences with sexual harassment isn't "feminism" lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:25 AM
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Feminism happened decades ago, men can't keep using that as an excuse lmao. Women have been prominently going to college and working full time for over 50 years now Dating apps also don't change female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:19 AM
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Nature is nature, it doesn't "manifest differently" across decades Dogs don't act any differently now than they did in 2000 lmao 🐹🐹🐹
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:12 AM
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Market has nothing to do with nature. You can't have it both ways. Either the "current gen" can only learn from other equally (in)experienced men - in which case "evo psych" concepts are completely irrelevant; or "evo psych" concepts about "female nature" are correct - in which case the "generation" is completely irrelevant, because "female nature" doesn't change within a generation or three
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:22 AM
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Female nature is always female nature, until I guess a new gen of females are made 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:17 AM
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Hi guys, I was born in 2005. Now let me teach you what I've learned about women 😌
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:06 AM
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Incorrect. Uh huh Maybe it was unstated. But I am questioning female sexuality within the typical framework of female sexuality. I'm not just talking about your OP, I'm talking about your comments and replies to the answers. This is where your male solipsism becomes glaringly evident. Once again, this statement: Imagine how crazy you would go if you, an attractive woman, just slept with which ever men you wanted. It would be a smorgasbord of experiences Goes far beyond "just questioning female s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:55 PM
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You are continuously, throughout this post, projecting male sexuality onto women. For most women it's not enough to just find someone sexually attractive to want to have sex with them. It's not just "taboos" or "fear of judgement" "holding us back," it's the fact that we aren't oriented to pursue sex in the first place. You are pretending like women are naturally inclined to fuck every attractive man she could ever imagine because that's how your male sexuality works. I'm a giant slut and even I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:32 PM
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Live footage of me pair bonding with a man <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:22 PM
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Lmao abso-fucking-lutely not 😭🤣 Delulu as hell man, but thanks for the laugh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:31 PM
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Let's say he's tall. Who would be the female looksmatch for a tall, fat, ugly dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:12 PM
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Are the bluepillers in the room with us
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:53 PM
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No no, we go back to 666 next week. This week women get wet for toxic guys 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:49 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:35 PM
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I completely agree and I think this is also related to the wider conversations men repeatedly start on this sub about having leverage and unconditional love. They are obsessed with this relationship ideal of having a slavishly devoted submissive woman who only has eyes for them and is obsessed with them and wants to sexually do everything to them and with them and have no boundaries. They also seem to really take boundaries very personally, regardless of the reasoning or area. I think also they …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:32 PM
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I completely agree and I think this is also related to the wider conversations men repeatedly start on this sub about having leverage and unconditional love.They are obsessed with this relationship ideal of having a slavishly devoted submissive woman who only has eyes for them and is obsessed with them and wants to sexually do everything to them and with them and have no boundaries. They also seem to really take boundaries very personally, regardless of the reasoning or area. I think also they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:31 PM
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This is what Chad wants now <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:09 PM
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It's over for instruments with hip dips 😞 <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:02 PM
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Best I can offer you is paternity testing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 01:41 AM
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How almost every woman with fillers looks to me <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:02 PM
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"No, but actually yes" ahh response
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:08 PM
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Acknowledging what? The existence or lack thereof of free will?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:07 PM
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Then it's basically a pointlessly gendered question and becomes a matter of "do you believe in free will or not." I don't understand the point of these thought exercises. It seems like we're supposed to go "oh wow, if I was a guy I'd struggle more in these specific areas you guys complain about" but that doesn't change the motivations for how we currently operate as women now. Like cold-approaching isn't any less annoying or potentially scary as a small woman on the receiving end just because in…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:06 PM
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I didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:12 PM
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The fact that the orgasm gap persists well beyond initial encounters makes this theory DOA and not really worthy of serious consideration. I don't think women multi-year LTRs aren't cumming as much as their male partners because they're so anxious and self-conscious around their LTR partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:45 PM
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At any rate, yes, the orgasm gap is evidence. As are the experiences of women. But There's always a pesky but though, isn't there? a serious discussion has to put things into context. Lesbian and hetero sex is very different. You're not a woman, straight or otherwise. So what can you speak on this topic with such confidence? Women tend to be more anxious and self-conscious in hetero sex. 🫩 On average, most women would not be happy with a male sexual partner who just went down on them or used toy…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:02 AM
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Your reading skills need work. Yeah, not interested in reading any further then! ✌🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:39 AM
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... The orgasm gap discussion is full of bullshit. This includes the assertion that the gap is obviously the result of men caring about their partner's pleasure less or having less sexual skill than women. It also includes the very wrongheaded comparison to lesbian orgasm rates. This is a paragraph that - to native English speakers - is calling everything italicized "bullshit." This is a comment unequivocally declarating zero culpability on behalf of men, despite what direct implications the dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:27 AM
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Your previous comment allowed zero nuance for even the remote possibility of male sexual selfishness. Despite zero actual evidence, you adamantly believe in the manosphere framework of singledom rates being caused by "female league delusion." Yet here we have actual hard evidence, buoyed by an abundance of anecdata from women but that's still not enough for you to remotely seriously consider the legitimacy of female complaints about male sexual selfishness. Broad sympathy for some, broad skeptic…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:15 AM
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Care to elaborate, or just adamantly insist straight men have zero responsibility here anywhere despite all available evidence to the contrary
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:04 AM
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Always nice to meet fans of my work 🙂‍↕️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:58 PM
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Once again, "implications" you pulled from your ass based on things I never said don't actually qualify for "engagement." I have no reason to "engage" with fiction you attribute to me This is done
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:45 PM
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Are we advocating for Gonna go ahead and stop you right here mate. There was no "advocating" in my comment. So I already know whatever follows is going to be some nonsense you made up
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:42 PM
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It will never cease to amuse me how many posts are made that are essentially resentment, hostility, jealousy, and bitterness towards women because of your own sex drive. It's not women's fault that your dicks rule everything. The locus of control is with y'all, homies. These posts should be like fortune cookies, except instead of adding "in bed" to the end, it should be "because of my own sex drive." "Women will never be truly alone!! (... because of my own sex drive)" "Women get away with bad b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:05 PM
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Remember when bait used to be believable
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:48 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:49 AM
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Thank ya 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:42 AM
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Indeed, I was the evil old woman
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:37 AM
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Then you all get angry when we make jokes about women Remember our delightful exchange yesterday? When you wistfully expressed a desire for short women to be attracted to short men and I said short women aren't lesbians? That shit was funny as hell, you were triggered for hours
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:14 AM
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Allllll mine baby. Paid $20 for four tickets Oh you mean everything at the raffle? No lol, this was like one of five prizes <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:09 AM
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The greed they talk about in the Bible 😑 <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:16 AM
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Won this at a shelter raffle today, including the bed 🙂‍↕️ <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:15 AM
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My mom can't get over how ugly he is lmao She's seriously triggered every time she has to see him on TV. I've recommended she just stick to Netflix for the next month He is soooo busted though holy fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:10 AM
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Amazing how just 24 hours ago we were all ignoring men. Now we can't stop mocking them and "celebrating their loneliness" I guess this sub really is changing hearts and minds
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:42 AM
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It really did lmao, everything old is new again. They started off with thigh gaps 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:43 AM
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I think there can be multiple kinds of hot voices, like looks. I agree he is kind of in the same vein as the translator though. I also think my ex has a hot voice and he sounds completely different. Much deeper but kind of with a Liverpool bent for some reason even though he's not remotely English lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:09 AM
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I agree. I think many, if not most women are delusional about the baseline sexual satisfaction of men. I had no problems keeping up in my LTRs, but I'm also not the typical women sociosexually. I also think most women severely underestimate the regulatory effect sex has on a man's overall mood and disposition. A well-fucked man is generally more agreeble and frictionless than a man whose sexual needs are going unmet and thus is walking around with a body screaming at him to cum in a pussy. Women…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:01 AM
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I like his voice 🤷🏿 saw that I wasn't alone lol <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:51 PM
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I really am no better than a man 😩 10 seconds in I was like "damn you have a hot ass voice" and lo and behold I am not alone in my thoughts
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:43 PM
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So it would be okay for an attractive woman to view you as a paycheck and a pocketbook, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:33 PM
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This "chance" requires the consent of another individual. There's no way to enshrine that as a "right."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:32 AM
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You ninja edited the jk. And you're the one spamming the DT everyday with woe-is-me defeatist and fatalistic whining. https://preview.redd.it/s3nd1n497y9h1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=726243c64dec7555e4d8cc30d899a9302473746d
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:06 AM
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I have no idea what "rule 1" is, but if it makes you feel better to report me have fun lmao. I'm sure Reddit will agree it's transphobic for a straight woman to not want to date women 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:57 AM
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Reported to who? For what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:50 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:41 AM
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Guess you haven't been paying attention 🤷🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:35 AM
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well you consider it an insult . When did I do that, specifically As you said , why would I date a woman? Yeah, why would I? It's a valid q
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:34 AM
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Only if you think being a woman is an insult 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:30 AM
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Don't you worry your pretty little head about it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:29 AM
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"Man, I wish I could have a newborn without all that pesky 'trying for a baby' creampieing" - said no straight man ever
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:28 AM
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Maybe you should learn what "like" means
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:13 AM
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Not being sexually attracted to someone isn't hatred HTH
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:12 AM
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🤣😭 not le filthy black pillar Idk man you're the one sending me like half a dozen comments at once, so maybe you tell me why
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:10 AM
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For what? Not finding sexually unattractive traits attractive? I thought men were supposed to be RaTiOnAl AnD lOgIcAl lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:09 AM
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Lmao you have no better responses than spamming me with comments about how women will have our rights taken away 🥴😛 Lazy, unoriginal, and uninspired. Wake me up when you have something innovative to threaten
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:06 AM
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Which accomplishes what for them, specifically
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:03 AM
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Unless a man wants to rape, what tempers his standards are female autonomy. As we can clearly see by looking at the casual and even committed relationships of gay men, along with the persistent use of porn by men even in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:41 AM
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Men's desire for NSA sex has nothing to do with observing other men being able to have it. It's biological, not something that they learn from observation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:28 AM
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"Women are the ones who need to change" - Red-pill, colorized, circa 2026
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:15 AM
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It's completely irrational to expect, much less actively demand other people not behave in ways they want to behave in because some people want what they have. Should I not eat because others are starving? Okay, I can go hungry too. What has actually been accomplished here? What has it helped to have two hungry people instead of just one? The entitlement is insane. I have no idea why I wouldn't do something I want just because some other dude is pissy he can't do it too. Literally nothing in lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:45 AM
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🤣 if you need to believe I'm bothered by anything you've said, be my guest
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:04 AM
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Orrr... bear with me now... It could be exactly what I said 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:53 PM
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He is entitled, like all the other short guys on this sub who rage about the "unfairness" of their sexually undesirable traits being viewed as sexually undesirable. They insist that it shouldn't be because they don't want it to be. That's not logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:38 PM
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There's nothing "entitled" about being sexually attracted to masculinity as a heterosexual woman lmao. Your argument makes zero sense, it's just pissy triggered raging
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:34 PM
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You have no points. You took me trolling someone seriously and got all triggered because of it. I'm just having fun at your expense, obviously I don't think short men are women lol but if someone thinks that I was being serious well then I'm going to waste their time because why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:30 PM
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Did you read the comment? He said it'd be cool. Why short women in particular? Are you his alt or something? Everyone except short women believe this is the natural order of thing No one is holding guns to men who are average height and tall men that forces them to date short women. In order for short women to have relationships with these men, those men must also agree to it right? So why the one-sided demonization of short women like men don't have agency all the sudden to not have relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:26 PM
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No, logic says it's normal for you to not be attracted to short men because it's part of sexual dimorphism. But you implied short men are women, Did you read the comment I replied to? Why would a woman being short mean she'd love short men? Inherent in this entitled attitude is the idea that short women should be less attracted to masculinity, or be less heterosexual. It's retarded Being sexually attracted to masculinity, including physical indicators of it, has no reason to have anything to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:09 PM
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My logic is aligned with sexual dimorphism You had no logic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:01 PM
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"sexual dimorphism is pedophilia" ☝️🤓
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:58 PM
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Honestly she probably has traction alopecia more than genetic balding. She wouldn't need to do anything extreme like a transplant, she just needs to stop wearing tight ponytails and leave her edges tf alone
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:29 PM
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Just because we're short doesn't mean we're lesbians
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:45 PM
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At least you admit they are thought about differently then. .... You can't call someone "hypocritical" for judging different things differently. .... This isn't an "admission" that actually means anything in the context of your debate post. I have in no way implied women and men are the same, Women do not pay for sex. This is a male activity. Pointing to outliers doesn't really prove "hypocrisy" because it's not really something that happens in the first place. I'm almost certain most people wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:40 AM
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Dude Your opening is about casual sex. You know damn well there's no rash of women and girls "consulting sex workers" - for what? Some unverifiable throwaway on Reddit is a drop in the bucket to the men who pay for sex, and you damn well know it. And pretty relevantly: Edit: Please stop sending me DMs offering 'free services'. paid for a man who was worth my money and time. Doesn't mean I'm thirtsy for any kind of action! Edit2: changed the ending because was unsure about sharing actual conversa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:38 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:25 AM
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Your only points involve the explicit juxtaposition of "sex work" and "casual sex." For your convenience, I've attached a screenshot highlighting in yellow your mentions of "casual sex" and in red your mentions of"sex work." This is not a post that ruminates about a myriad of topics up to and including these two things, this is a post exclusively about these two concepts and conflating them in order to make an invalid allegation of "hypocrisy." If you are going to continue being disingenuous abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:58 AM
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My post is talking about women who shame things based on gender. You made a specific point conflating casual sex with paying for sex. You are now attempting to be disingenuous about this when it's the central premise of your OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:48 PM
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So I never said "one is worse than the other bEcAuSe It'S dIfFeReNt" All I said was there's no contradiction because they're not the same You can't call someone "hypocritical" for judging different things differently. That makes about as much sense as saying I, a vegan, am being "hypocritical" for judging eating meat and dairy but not fruits and vegetables 🥴
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:34 PM
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There is no hypocrisy. Having sex with someone based on mutual desire is not the same as having sex with someone for money. It's not contradictory as such to judge one but not the other
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:24 PM
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Who is "we?" No one is preventing men from expressing this and it's not esoteric knowledge that there are men whose only interest in women is for sex. The female distaste for this isn't going to go away regardless, which appears to be what you actually want. That's just going to need to be something you get over
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:21 PM
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🫩 Men on this sub regularly state that if it weren't for sex, they wouldn't interact with women at all because we're dumb, boring, and shallow No "gaslighting" from us necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:17 PM
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Social media has made no one more delusional than unsocialized men who think they can now be experts on the lives of women and socially adjusted men from the comfort of their basements
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:56 PM
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u/grow_peace_in_bedlam, you ever listen to VSQ cover NIN?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:29 PM
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Red-pill claims to be based on comparing notes, pattern recognition, etc. Yet here a red-pilled man wants to deny the legitimacy of observing patterns about men. Women apparently should pretend like they've never heard or read anything about a man before, much less had personal experiences with them each and every time they interact with a man. Of course, that would make it impossible to "choose better" considering we're I guess supposed to Men In Black zap ourselves back to blank slatism every …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:06 AM
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And DARVO was his name-o
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 10:51 PM
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I'm not watching HOTD, shit I didn't even finish GoT but I am thoroughly enjoying the Sheepstealer memes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:32 PM
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No, I don't watch any sports
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:12 PM
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I don't need help having empathy, and I don't need empathy to understand. Either way it's definitely not a way I want to spend my free time
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:56 PM
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Eh, I guess I see what you're saying. I never visited FDS but I guess I'd agree that it made more sense as a gender-flipped RP than RPW. I just don't understand needing to reinvent the wheel, "traditionalism"/conservatism already espouses the exact same things. What extra value is there in the rebranding? If it's clout then sure, big fish in a small pond but who is the target demographic for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:53 PM
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No, I'm good. It's definitely not an interest of mine to read more of what I remarked upon in my OC??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:42 PM
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What "clout?" I just expected it to be analogous to RPM in the sense of "evo-psych" based parameters to work in one's own self-interests. But it really just seemed to be about simping for men while ignoring one's own needs, which is really pathetic. Doing whatever men want has never in human history been a proven, effective way for women to have happy, fulfilling relationships. "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" though has been a pretty consistent theme, which appears to be what these women wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:41 PM
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Try it for what
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:35 PM
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Does who even exist now
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:18 PM
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Girlllllll It's so weird how RPM is pretty much just "here's how you can be happy" and RPW is just "here's how to make him happy so you can be happy." I mean damn can't anything prioritize women??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:07 PM
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Believe it or not, no But I'll give you one for free: 😯 > 😲
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:51 PM
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I'll save you the trouble: 1) men are perfect so if you're unhappy you're doing something wrong. Suck his dick until you feel better 2) don't break up for any reason. If you're unhappy you're doing something wrong. Suck his dick until you feel better 3) if a man is being mean to you, guess what? Suck his dick until you feel better 4) men like to feel safe and nurtured and cared for and masculine. Then you'll be happy by proxy. You don't worry your pretty little head about your needs, just keep s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:46 PM
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I've been here for years without really being fazed but I couldn't spend five minutes on redpillwomen without wanting to blow my brains out All I could think about was Firecracker from The Boys desperately trying to feed Homelander her milk. The vibes were identical
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:37 PM
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I don't think it was "brutal" either. And the fact remains that the comments still are a chorus of angry attacks at her for doing exactly what he asked her to do. Women should never give men dating advice under any circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:42 AM
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He asked her for an unvarnished view and she gave it. Commenters proceed to call her a bitch and other derogatory terms. I didn't see anything she said that was needlessly harsh or pointlessly cruel, and it's incredible that even when a man intentionally asks for a direct unfiltered assessment people will still attack and insult her for not coddling his feelings and dressing it up in euphemisms and platitudes. This is why women should always just ignore it when men ask for advice. They're going …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:38 AM
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Can't have comphet Can't have AI CAN'T HAVE ANYTHING!! 😩
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:42 PM
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Women prefer natural bears but with enough gender-affirming care and bulking, a pale imitation can also suffice... With enough game 🦌
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:11 PM
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It really is that easy if you do field reports from Build-a-Bear 🤷🏿 just look at what they choose and imitate that, duh Women really do give the best dating advice 🙂‍↕️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:08 PM
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Q4M: have you considered bearmaxxing so that women choose you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:16 PM
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Where's the accountability 😩
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:16 PM
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All I'm reading is that you can't hold frame
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:00 PM
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Really only insecure and/or undesirable men are hung up on this shit. It's why dating them and giving them chances is a shit deal for women, among other reasons. You'll always be used as a proxy for his own internal bullshit and it'll make your relationship (and by extension, your life) miserable. Leave these men tf alone. Don't entertain them and their nonsense for a second. If you get a whiff of sexual jealousy and insecurity get the fuck out and don't look back, there's nothing good that awai…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:34 PM
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She's literally me Also POV: how single women see men with red flags
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:11 AM
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Women in 2026 are not "discovering" that a man watches porn, we are practically raised with this info being the default "9 in 10 men watch porn and 1 in 10 is lying yuck yuck"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:12 PM
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Where is my claim that women need to be sexually attracted to most men? What percent of men are you demanding women be sexually attracted to in order to not be irrationally declared "porn brained" by you; where are you getting this number from; and how/why is that the percent of men women "should" find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:45 PM
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This is vaguely true if your knowledge is restricted to the Anglosphere…. TIL the Middle East is the Anglosphere Men oppressed, and men oppress and hate women because they want to and can. Our behavior has never had shit to do with it. We just had to be female and that was reason enough. Why did we have to be "given the right to vote" in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:23 PM
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Finally my time to shine Also 1 cup (8 ounces) Who is this conversion for
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:02 PM
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Perfect so then I guess there’s no reason to call out porn-brained men either since most men are in relationships. The point of porn-brain complaints isn't that women are single. Since you insist on using a false equivalency, you keep making invalid arguments. Unlike you, I dont need a problem to impact the majority of people before I can acknowledge the problem exists. You want to waste your time mad about women who have physical standards you think they shouldn't, be my guest. It has nothing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:30 AM
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Most men are partnered. The most common way couples meet now is online, and yet men can't stop complaining about the completely unrealistic, unreasonable standards of women. We're all "influenced" by things but only men are telling women their sexual attraction is wrong because of their own ragebaiting algorithms. Women have always been sexually attracted to conventionally attractive men, that's nothing new. Men have zero actual evidence that women en masse are being primarily "influenced" to ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:29 AM
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The disingenuous framing of your OC is the only thing I called out. If Ange hadn't made her comment we would have never seen you say anything about "age ranges." And like I said, "age ranges" aren't even the end-all, be-all to attraction for men. It's not even an objective metric in the first place, it's still a moving target depending on the man and his preferences. Your attempt to portray this false equivalency as "porn brain" will always fall flat because women are not compulsively sexual lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:11 AM
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It's not really just ever "age ranges," it's also weight, etc. Men aren't ever really attracted to "most women," they just automatically rule out everyone who doesn't qualify and then proclaim moral superiority that they're willing to fuck most of the women they consider fuckable. They're no different than women. I'd also consider "most men" attractive if I just ruled out everyone I didn't consider attractive off the bat 🙄 Yeah, it does make a major difference when you are actually accurately de…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:23 AM
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So you have unlisted parameters that invalidate your own claim yet still think you have a point? As usual this is just a complaint that female sexuality is bad and wrong because it's not male sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:06 AM
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He wasn't talking about anything relevant to the "conversation." I'm well aware of the fucking words I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:35 PM
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☝️🤓 yeah dude I replied and blocked a mod, you know that's how I roll!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:32 PM
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I don't understand framing any of these differences in terms of "value," especially outside of the strict parameters of reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:02 PM
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She would for Chad. I have to like, speak to women and stuff because I’m a Chud 😞 es muy triste My most recent first date who I’m currently in a relationship with was an acquaintance I first met who I invited over to my place to watch Ex Machina. Part way through the movie I put my arm around her. After the movie I told her I wanted to kiss her. That moved on to making out & intimacy We like a verbal consent king 👑 We don’t have dogs, but we have a permanent cat & got another foster cat recently…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:59 PM
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How do you make the leap in logic from "must provide unique value" or else "society would be better off without them?" Not sure how your title relates to your premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:51 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:47 PM
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u/Reasonable_Mouse789, pls confirm a first date with you goes something like this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:44 PM
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Your thoughts change nothing I said. This isn't a debate post, this is a Q4W. Your rant about quotas etc. has nothing to do with anything, and your entire engagement with my comment and the others on this post is making up things to be mad about and strawmanning because you hate feminism. My only point is that as long as women exist, feminism is necessary because there will always be people interested in undoing progress. It is the exact same for any other minority group who has been oppressed o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:10 PM
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Sweden maintains equality through the continued active safeguarding and advocacy of feminism. Not sure if you've noticed, but hard-won rights only continue when people continue to advocate for them. They don't permanently become etched in stone 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:16 AM
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None of that has anything to do with my opinion of anything. It's all completely irrelevant to why I have the opinions I have and what I've said.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:07 AM
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I don't really care about the different wave distinctions, that's all needless post-hoc division. I base my opinion on whatever the issues are, regardless of what "wave" classification others denote. Legitimate feminist issues exist in every country but it's up to the women in them to ensure the advocacy is still effective, targeted, meaningful, and relevant. I don't think where I live feminists have done a good job of that lately and it directly hurts the cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:58 AM
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Most men are simps Yes, famously the top complaints women have about men are how overly interpersonally considerate they are and how well they anticipate and tend to our needs. "He kept the fridge too well stocked and never let me care for our children." "The toilet seat was always down and he never forgot important dates." "Really I hated how good he was at remembering what I liked and making my favorite meals when I was sad and he gave me too many thoughtful gifts." Only a man could make this …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:24 AM
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Modern-day western feminism has lost the plot for a number of reasons that have fuck-all to do with manosphere gripes (which are essentially the same complaints men have been making about women for millennia but repeatedly repackaged as new and innovative takes). I don't believe in choice feminism, I don't believe motherhood is empowering but rather plays right into the hands of patriarchy by making women weaker and dependent on/permanently tied to men, I don't believe in "feminism for everyone"…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:51 AM
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Not sure how this relates to my comment but thanks for sharing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:32 AM
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Women being nice to men, women being "humble," women being smiley submissive agreeable doormats, women going along to get along, women censoring ourselves, women behaving exactly as men demand has never made men treat us better or "support our issues" As history very clearly demonstrates
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:52 AM
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From my years on this sub, this is 100% accurate. Most of the "gender war" comes down to the idea that women don't really have the right to refuse to pair up with men because "birth rates" and "large groups of unattached men cause issues." It's the underlying basis of every single complaint about pickiness, because otherwise why can't women decide to be single if that would make her happier than her options? What a woman does with her life and pussy really shouldn't be anyone's business but her …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 05:17 PM
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Iran killed several orders of magnitude more in the protests. There's no good guys here, everyone sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:50 AM
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We went from Operation Epic Fury to a Memorandum of Understanding lmaooo Goofy ahh timeline
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:43 AM
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... The reason for this debate topic is that usually women tend to jump on the train of thought that men mainly or only care about sex This is you pretending like this "train of thought" spawns from the ether instead of being an accurate reflection and observation of what men routinely proclaim when in reality the men that think like that don't even know what they are actually chasing. This is you presenting an alternate reality that tells us to not believe our own eyes and ears on nothing but "…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:03 PM
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Nothing I said was about a contradiction. You are not honestly engaging with the substance of my comment and criticism. Your post is trying to convince women men don't mean what they say, which is silly. If you're so convinced of this then you should be arguing with the men who say these things, and not the women who merely observe and sometimes remark on what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:36 PM
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I think it's weird to make a post directed at telling women that what men say shouldn't be interpreted the way they insist instead of telling these men directly they are wrong. Why are men so much more eager to tell women not to believe our eyes and ears than they are to tell men they aren't being honest about what they want? Women are merely observing what men say and do. Women aren't the ones who claim the only way men can feel human is through sexual attraction. Women aren't the ones who repe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:31 PM
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I don't think that it is. You are making it sound like women are not even attracted to men Nope. Let's just cut the shit right here. That's not remotely "what I made it sound like," that is your continued projection onto what I said creating things I didn't say. This is done.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:57 PM
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The point about making observations isn't to "win men over" or "gain allies" in the first place. Not sure why you think that's the point of anything I said. But as the tendency of your responses go, they're not really ever about addressing what was said or honestly engaging with the intent, they are about your particular ax to grind against "feminism." So you can have fun with that by yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:51 PM
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The central premise of your post is that these things are significant enough that they should bring women noticeable "comfort" My reply is why your premise is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:51 PM
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The things you listed aren't even remotely the biggest friction points women have with men, so that's probably why
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:29 PM
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Okay, obviously the experience of misogyny is separate from reading things online. But I think it's telling that older women who lived in more explicitly misogynistic times have a higher opinion of men than the women who live in today's obviously more egalitarian society. No, they fucking didn't. This is a lie delusional men insist on telling themselves. Many young women are told by our older female relatives to stay single and not have children. They gush about how much they wish they had had t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:48 AM
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So why did so many women want to get married before, but now no longer to? Why did women want to pair up with men more when it was necessary, but less when it's not? Is that a serious question? Do you really think that the only reason this was the case in the past was just because women needed men's money but otherwise completely hated all men? I never said they "completely hated all men," this is a bad-faith engagement of my comment. Men never had to ever be attractive and likable en masse befo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:54 AM
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I think this is probably olds news when it comes to dudes discussing women in an objectivifying way in their incel forums or redpill spaces. Several thousands of years of history made this "old news" for women. This is not specific to "incels," as convenient for your narrative as that might be Everyone knows how Women as a group have responded to reading that. We didn't have to "read it" to experience it with our own lives. But think the more subtle part is the fact it goes both ways. This is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:43 AM
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Men have been loudly and publicly bitching about how awful women are for millennia. Religion is one of the most obvious instances of this. Women have long known how shitty a lot of men think we are. The opinion that we're stupid manipulative children who need to be strictly controlled is nothing remotely new to the internet age. Based on the bias of your post and this really curious blindness, it's pretty evident to me that you don't really think that the disaster is in knowledge of these ideas.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:34 PM
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Even GTA can't stop the hypergamy train 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 09:26 PM
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And if power without self-knowledge made men oppressive, Where has this been established? Who has seriously presented this direct cause-and-effect?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 08:50 PM
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This post failed immediately as a "thought experiment" when you centered your premise around social skills and then set up your "experiment" around online dating. Environments related to social skills involve the ways couples meet offline. They don't just involve isolated 1-on-1 interactions, they encompass the wider variety and scope of social aptitude necessary to successfully develop, maintain, and navigate a co-ed social network.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 08:39 PM
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Well yes. I am looking for the love of my life and I think it's cruel to use women as a place holder. And I need some assurance of her attraction to me. I've complained about that too here, but again, it doesn't make for a funny post. I mean that's fine. But I've seen you describe the women you're into - who overall would be very desirable - and then see you be completely unmotivated to engage with the easiest kind of dating. That's nothing women can help you with. You have to want to date, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:51 PM
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None of this has ever made a woman look attractive to me. I know there are men out there who care a lot about women maintaining a certain upkeep, but that's never moved the needle for me. Maybe I'm a little more face blind than average. Well as you observed earlier I'm speaking in generalities. I will gently push back on this and say that 'why are you attracted to this woman' and 'What do you like about this woman' are two different questions. I could break down every facet of her body I find at…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:31 PM
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I think status is doing a lot of heavy lifting here, honestly. But if some people can find former presidents hot, I guess some women are face people? I feel like I never hear a woman say 'his face is really pretty' about a guy they're actually in a relationship with. They just go on about his personality. Women don't say "his face is really pretty" because our attraction lens tends to be more holistic and less objectifying. I don't mean that in a pejorative way, it's just a difference between ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:55 PM
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I think generally for women yes, but once you start deviating from average the weighting varies. Generally female "butterfaces" have more appeal than a male equivalent because I don't think men care as much about a face as much as a body. I think you can find a lot of male butterfaces in sports, but they can still be successful because of the status/money halo + good bodies. I think if we were comparing all else equal, a slightly below body + better face in men is going to have more appeal and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:28 PM
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Valid. The only time I've seen it is probably 15-20 years ago when I was getting my hair braided and that's what she had on the TV. I wish I was blackout ☠️ The first person who comes out with sedation hair braiding is gonna make bank lmao. But I'm sure liability wise no one would take the risk
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:27 PM
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For the real thing? Yes. But I want the dynamic where my gay son and I organically reenact an absurdist conversation dynamic because we just ✨ vibe ✨ so well lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:25 PM
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I'm a thot daughter but this makes having a gay son look like so much fun 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:08 PM
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How so
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 07:36 PM
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Follow me for more amazing relationship advice <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 07:33 PM
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Men are born at the wall 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 07:22 PM
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This is so dumb, I love it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:34 AM
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You don't believe in the fundamental evo-psych basis of red-pill. If you did, you wouldn't be confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:36 AM
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Why do you consider yourself red-pilled?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:29 AM
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Not all men, but always a man making this argument. I wonder why?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:18 AM
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My questions, unsurprisingly, remain unanswered
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:10 AM
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How is a "red-pilled man" confused by the fact that male and female sexuality are not the same? How is a "red-pilled man" confused by the idea that men get the sexual attraction they inspire?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:06 AM
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Men here regularly "explain" (of course, not threatening) that without sexual access a cascade of severely negative consequences will inevitably and invariably happen to society. Because men's only way of empathizing with other people is through the possession of a partner and children; otherwise, he has no "stake in society." They also say that single men are easily recruited for radicalization because something something villages and warmth. These things are presented as universal, immutable t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 12:14 AM
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It can be. There's nuance to it, and it really depends on the comorbid traits. I've dated nerds and my family of origin leans nerdy. I suppose I'm nerdy in a way. Being knowledgeable can show competency, but it depends on the area of knowledge. Being knowledgeable about things that demonstrate social competency is hot. If you're knowledgeable about Dragon Ball Z lore that might nerf your appeal. If you're knowledgeable about history, architecture, or other less niche areas that translate to real…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:29 PM
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This is part of what bugs me so much about the "hypergamy" hysteria. The "average man" in general in the West (America particularly) has gotten so much less attractive over time, yet men still insist on blaming "hypergamy," dating apps, social media and occasionally now even Hollywood for women being less attracted to men. If they can admit that biologically women are pickier, they are conceding that our baselines are different. So if the "average" goes from the effort to be fit and stylish to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:18 PM
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The Madonna-Whore complex also isn't a logically consistent or well-reasoned argument, it's mens' feelings. It's the same inconsistency as wanting constant easy casual sex but finding sluts disgusting. And the fact that so many men find that so much more objectionable than the demonstrable harm regular porn has caused says a lot about male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:02 PM
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Genuinely looksmatched couple according to PPD men without dating apps and social media 😔 <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:22 AM
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Broken record. "Logical for your gender" "your gender is not logical" "nah nah nah nah boo boo I'm rubber you're glue." This is boring and unproductive. The OP was straightforward and had nothing to do with who someone would or wouldn't date. All these men replying about not dating women who do porn is just one non-sequitur after another, including your "logical" comments 😃 Gonna do more interesting things. Ta ta now!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:16 AM
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... did you mean to provide a perfect example of my point, or was that completely unintentional? Either way, I'm pretty amused
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:58 AM
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I'm thinking that the central premise of the OP has nothing to do with these conditions. It is simply and directly conflating the consumption of non-OF porn with the demonization of OF porn. Men (particularly on this sub) are violently protective of their right to consume porn, to the point of such hysterics that any perceived criticism of it is interpreted as literally controlling their ability to masturbate. Yet against that background they loudly condemn a specific type of porn without a logi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:31 AM
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Yes, lack of reading comprehension does make debate hard
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:06 AM
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Mfw most of my Reddit notifications are from users on my ignore list
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:55 PM
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That's not how reading comprehension works though. Or at least, it's not supposed to. You can't ever successfully communicate if you're just going to project whatever your personal grievance or hangup is onto whatever was actually said. And nothing in the OP could reasonably be interpreted as or twisted into who men do or don't want to date
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:02 PM
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Why bother making this post and asking us questions then, if you already think you know the answers and aren't even open to what women even say? You made this post just to waste our time. As I said before, not a serious post
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:42 PM
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It's so weird how many men are either unable or unwilling to understand your argument. I'm not sure how much of this is intentional because that's the only way they can form some sort of rebuttal that makes sense to them or what the deal is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:10 PM
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Okay? His claim is still wrong regardless of your opinion of what matters most...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 09:12 PM
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Please revisit my first reply. There was nothing being "split 50/50," the time of all work was balanced by hours. A 50/50 split did not exist for anything specifically. "Work and chores" were not split 50/50, there was a balance between all forms of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:40 PM
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That's not remotely what that link said. In fact, the very first graph explicitly disproved your summary. The actual chart you are gleefully misinterpreting is about an equal division of time of all work, both paid and unpaid. It is not saying men are doing 50% of the work at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:11 PM
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How are the matches determined, outside of the man's opinion Because the complaints tend to be a variation on a theme of "my looksmatch doesn't want me!!" 😠😡
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:43 PM
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I am once again asking why and how men know who their "matches" are if they don't actually want him back
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:26 PM
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Unless they're also demonizing and hating baristas, this isn't an equivalent situation. OF has definitely been the target of male ire in a way that other porn never was.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:39 PM
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A+ post. A day later and no one could effectively argue against it, only strawman; goalpost-move; or prove your point. It's something I've long observed myself as well. Men can always be "experts" on the female dating (and often even just life) experience, female thought processes, inner female monologues, female sexual experiences, female attraction, etc. but it can never go the opposite direction because women just "can't truly understand what it's like to be a man" 😫😫 Such a silly double-stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:11 PM
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I'm not sure why I need to point out that that was clearly a figure of speech, but here we are ig
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:54 PM
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No, obligating those things is super weird. Doesn't require legal meddling to allow people to make their own decisions about their own money. I'm not having kids but all my money is going to animal charities, when it could go to my friends or friends' kids but nah lol. I guess my brother too if I die before him (and assuming my parents are dead). That said, I understand that you're a trust fund recipient, and if your children didn't have the same (not necessarily requiring additional money after…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:46 PM
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The contradiction is in being so loudly hateful of sex workers in one medium but not the other, when the main difference is self-employability. It's not about who men would date vs fuck. The argument isn't that men are saying they would date one group but not another. It's not about who they date or fuck at all, the point of hypocrisy is the criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:57 PM
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I was thinking the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:28 PM
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A lack of y-chromosome doesn't magically make half the population incapable of experiencing the same internal bonding as the other half. One doesn't need to have "female friends" to know that. They just have to know they're still human beings. It's not a serious post. It's like the Q4W made years ago asking essentially if women are sentient. Even asking these questions fundamentally comes from a perspective that women aren't also human beings. We shouldn't have to "prove" his doubts same as we s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:52 PM
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These are not serious questions and this is not a serious post
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:33 PM
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Chat, do women have object permanence and long-term memory? The science is still out
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:08 PM
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Why the hell do see so many thinkpieces on social media Who wants to tell him what an algorithm is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:04 AM
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It's an incoherent stance that "feminism" causes hypergamy. When you restrict or prevent women from the necessary resources for self-sufficiency, obviously the entire purpose is to make women dependent on men for everything. Women have to "date up" far more than they do with feminism, in large part because when you have nothing or next to nothing everyone you date will be "up." When women can support themselves, you get increasing egalitarianism. No women in oppressive countries are going half o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:50 AM
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Your reply to hungry-plaintain was a rebuttal mainly centered around a correction of what "representative women" are doing. What she was replying to also wasn't about "representative women," because "representative women" aren't posting what he claimed either. You're redefining the context of what she was replying to. You coming in now and arbitrarily deciding only "young women from our generation" count isn't what the original comment stated. And these conditions still don't make the original c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:31 AM
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Women "in general" aren't doing this either. The median woman is a married middle-aged, overweight mother. This woman is not posting half-naked thirst traps and videos of herself "making out with strangers" on social media. You guys are 100% using your specific algorithms and irrationally extrapolating them to all women when odds are most women are completely invisible to you outside of the narrow band of young thin vain hot women you keep clicking on on your FYP
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:13 AM
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Man Jim Caviziel was super hot on Person of Interest. Too bad he's dumb AF and crazy as hell. And not even in a fun way like Chet Hanks, like you just know dude is absolute trash in bed and miserable to live with. OTOH, the composer Ramin Djawadi was equally hot during the PoI era. I didn't even realize he was also the composer for Game of Thrones too but now that I know that it definitely makes sense. The vibes are similar. Anecdotally IME composers have been pretty good-looking, not sure why.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:17 PM
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Is what usually the other way around?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:44 PM
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No one does that. Okay, good chat then. Not sure there's a point reading any further when out the gate I'm being told none of the things I've read were actually real Take care now!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:42 PM
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There's zero evidence, just men substituting their solipsistic "logic" based on selective and incomplete "observations" into universal objective reality. They ignore 99.9% of people who don't fall into a specific class/background/etc. and hyperfocus on only who "Chad fucks" and then conclude only Chads have casual sex. Meanwhile everyday coworkers hook up with coworkers, neighbors hook up with neighbors, and all kinds of people fuck the people they are most often in proximity to due to familiari…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:34 PM
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I like a strong nose on men too. I find this man's face very attractive and he definitely has a large nose, but it's more attractive overall. To put on a blackpill hat for a second, nostril exposure is more congruent with some demographics over others. It wasn't the size overall, and it wasn't ugly, it was just aesthetically incongruent IMO 🤷🏿 I don't have any opinions about the new nose, but I do think the old nose had more character despite being incongruent. When you try for "aesthetic perfec…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 05:04 PM
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Your hypothetical is an annoying black-pill diversion from the topic to a personal hangup or grievance. That's not why I'm here. Not responding further.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 05:57 AM
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Did you even write this gish gallop? It's formatted weirdly like AI, but I think even AI manages to make at least one accurate claim or two
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:49 AM
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I'll have to get an audiobook. Not because she can't read, but because of her dyslexia
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:23 PM
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Do you host seminars or have a newsletter I could subscribe to? I feel like I have a lot I could learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:22 PM
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Wow, you're really good at this. I'll report back my results tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:54 PM
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Good advice. I might add in a bit of passive dread by holding her favorite toy juuuust out of reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:48 PM
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I'm well aware of what you can do. And I'm "allowed" to comment on what actions you take? Like what are we doing here 🤣 You were not remotely on topic. A word being mentioned doesn't make any and all thoughts you have related to that word "on topic" because of a little quaint concept I like to call context. I'm done entertaining this pointless engagement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:44 PM
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Guys how do I teach my dog to stop simping. I usually give her some treats before going upstairs for the night as a reward for just being an adorable awesome dog that day. But sometimes I'll tell her to sit before she can receive them... and she just does it. Like she just lets me command her around. How do I teach her to have some goddamn self-respect??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:40 PM
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It was a pretty transparent attempt to insert yourself into a conversation and change the topic into what you wanted to talk about, instead of what it actually was
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:34 PM
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You can't disagree with something I never said. Nothing in my comment was concerning the origins or causes of this neuroticism. That's a completely different topic and focus than the OC, and my reply by extension
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:23 PM
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I'd like to personally take credit for Clav's recent transformation. You heard it here first folks, my influence has unimaginable reach <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:05 PM
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I think it heavily depends on the amount of neuroticism required to maintain the appearance. I know some women are turned off by even the effort required to meal prep. Others can't stand the macros and protein tracking, etc. I think the drop in perceived masculinity is almost just as much behavioral as it is physical appearance. But more superficial indicators like hair transplants, leg lengthening, etc. will probably be more polarizing wrt masculinity than fitness and dieting. If you look back …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:03 PM
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and what exactly is nuianced? That a possible tendency isn't some kind of universal guarantee Like your comment indicates: my point was that if a woman is preaching to yuou about any of these things, you are not desirablet to her. which goes with your point. Is not caring about my opinion also going to be on at 11? since it was so obvious? You're dragging this out way longer than necessary. It's a non-issue
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:49 PM
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my point was that if a woman is preaching to yuou about any of these things, you are not desirablet to her. As is so common in manospherians, a tendency can't ever be understood with any kind of nuance. It must immediately be turned into an unequivocal, universal black-and-white proclamation also the "More at 11" is so played out and corny. Not really concerned with your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:17 PM
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Idk mate, I think the trans pipeline is winning right now over the gay recruitment 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:00 PM
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N-count thread weeks are so boring. I get why they're necessary though. In other news, DAE think women don't deserve freedom and rights because they don't want to fuck enough men on sight? /s for the admin filters
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:57 PM
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Area man discovers pretty privilege. More at 11
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:50 PM
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Boniness isn't really sexy to women. Muscles are. The sexy parts here would be shoulders/delts and traps. This is male gaze projected onto women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:51 PM
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Puppieeeeez Though it definitely seems you have a "type" 😛 <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:47 PM
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The obsession with "muh genetics" is a very male-ego/narcissism based thing. I don't have to accept anyone's "definition" of "winners/losers" because it's not necessary for me to accept the framework in the first place that the entirety of what makes someone a "winner" or a "loser" centers around creampies, or that this is any kind of meaningful competition in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:19 PM
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Has anyone else been diagnosed with Adult Delusional Hypergamy Disorder? Also get this woke bullshit off my Reddit <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 11:03 PM
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You came hot out the gate lecturing me about my "ableism" and now want to play a victim. I don't really have the time for it. You also avoided my question about why calling men who fuck "trash" was okay with you, given the moral policing from the high horse. Curious. "Worsening it" is the same difference. I never even said it "creates misogyny," but even your "worsening" is a creation of misogyny. If misogyny exists at 60%, and mean words from women make an additional 10% misogynistic, that has …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:48 PM
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You just demonstrated what I was agreeing with What I said wasn't an opinion. It is a fact. Double-standards don't involve facts, they involve feelings. Editing your OC to include my comment as evidence is only going to make you look goofy, as it requires biological denialism
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:43 PM
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If the behavior and circumstances are the same, then that "something different" are just internal feelings. Which all double-standards are based on Believe it or not, still doesn't magically not make it a double-standard Now I'm truly done, an inability to accept the dictionary isn't something I can fix
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:39 PM
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Men are more comfortable living in lower standards than women. We have different baselines. Alone, we can more easily maintain our baseline for happiness. Environment is part of wellness. Most people spend the majority of their lives at home. If you don't feel comfortable and happy at home then where else can you feel comfortable and happy at? It's the one part of the world that is yours. So if women don't or can't feel peaceful and relaxed at the one and only place she can get rest and relaxati…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:36 PM
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I explained myself very clearly, in detail and at length in my OC. Confusion at this point is either deliberate/intentional sealioning or strawmanning. Think that about wraps this engagement up, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:29 PM
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Not sure if you caught it, but I also called men who fuck "trash." Why didn't that earn a lecture from you? Don't you think I genuinely believe these men are actually trash? Aren't these men's feelings just as important to you? This is all a bunch of triggered tone policing based on your brother. It's a you problem. You tunnel-visioned on that phrase because of your own sensitivity, to the exclusion of actually understanding the point I was making. I'm going to continue writing the way I want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:05 PM
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The typical "range of behaviors" is how the general perception is developed. That's just how pattern observation works. If you are talking about public perception of "male sexuality" and "female sexuality," by definition you're referring to the general aggregate patterns. Not edge cases. And whether you accept it or not, the general range of male sexuality contains a lot more coercive; violative; and non-consensual elements than the general range of female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 09:59 PM
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I don't do "shoulds" for opinions. People are free to believe whatever they want. The fact of the matter is if you judge identical behavior under identical circumstances differently, it's a double standard. You're free to have it, but you're not free to deny what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 09:52 PM
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Hmmm, okay. So - It's either "women are constantly scheming to manipulate and deceive men, and everything they do from twirling their hair to wearing lipstick to cucking is meticulously pre-planned and intentionally designed. Something something muh Esther Villar" or "Women are too stupid and self-unaware to know ourselves and our behavior ahead of time, much less reflect on internal motivations. We're like puppies, living always in the moment from the moment to the next. We're barely sentient h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 09:48 PM
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I highly recommend getting all dads a tactical Chihuahua
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 09:36 PM
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But "public discussions about sexuality" aren't going to explicitly be centered around edge cases, it will be centered around aggregate behavior. Hence the relevance of my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 09:21 PM
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... the crux of your OP is explicitly, exclusively about chores. Me responding to the actual topic is not somehow saying that chores are the only thing that matters in life 🤣😭
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 09:19 PM
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No, I'm going to give you the definition and consider this matter done: A double standard is the application of different sets of principles for situations that are, in principle, the same.[1] It is often used to describe treatment whereby one group is given more latitude than another.[2] A double standard arises when two or more people, groups, organizations, circumstances, or events are treated differently even though they should be treated the same way.[3] A double standard "implies that two …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:57 PM
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By definition, they do
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:54 PM
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Double standards require same behavior. Do you think male and female sexuality, in aggregate, is identically expressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:43 PM
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That wasn't agreeing with your worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:49 PM
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It's so fucking weird how obsessed the manosphere is with "hypergamy" even as age and wage gaps reach historic lows. It's like y'all are determined to keep living in the long ago past cause that's the only way the incoherent concepts you've based your entire worldview around make any sense. Where women are politically, religiously, and economically liberated, everything related to hypergamy decreases. Where women are oppressed, everything related to hypergamy increases. Because obviously if wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:38 PM
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They try to present it as a harm-reduction analysis. "Yes, men are demented and naturally violent and apathetic to others' suffering unless pacified with pussy and offspring, but taking this bad option now while you still have some autonomy will prevent future women later from being forced into pairing with no autonomy." This is "logical," and since they're men it's very "some of you may die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make." Ultimately there is not supposed to be any way around women…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:21 PM
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I gave it a little thought, and determined the accusation unfounded.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:40 PM
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The stretch required to twist and contort what I said to being "ableist" makes this comment not really worthy of serious engagement. My comment had a specific context in response to specific claims made in a debate post. Maybe you should ask yourself why you were determined to ignore those circumstances in favor of feeling moral indignation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:38 PM
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Ending up in a relationship, and being a sexless loser up until that relationship, are not mutually exclusive My comment already addressed this: The men who want to make sex equally enjoyable for women do so of their own accord, independent of their options. Even men in relationships can eventually learn their partner, despite having no casual sex. They just have to want to, and they have to care. You're not really engaging with the content of my rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:35 PM
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Most men don't end up sexless losers though. The crux of your argument has already been rebutted by the simple fact that most men end up in relationships, and yet the gap still persists. Clearly the idea of "casual sex selectivity" isn't the issue. The men who want to make sex equally enjoyable for women do so of their own accord, independent of their options. Even men in relationships can eventually learn their partner, despite having no casual sex. They just have to want to, and they have to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:23 PM
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Hi, slut here. The idea that men with "abundance" are all selfish trash and sexless losers are undercover sex gods is a convenient narrative, but just not true. The orgasm gap persists into relationships, even though most men end up partnered. It's selfishness and the penis-centric framing of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:19 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/wjqw47cy8v6h1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=baf4be9939b4a28c3caabd58744444e0059f8af5
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:58 PM
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I don't think it's going to do that at all. It's too dumb to trigger us, it's just funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:51 PM
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The best traps are the ones laid by the victims themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:50 PM
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I think this post is about being triggered, not about making sense lol One thing I do appreciate about Lilith is how angry she makes dudes here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:46 PM
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"I'm red-pill, and that's why I think gender-swapping rants is a gotcha. Because red-pilled men think women and men are the same, and have the same orientations and grievances. Checkmate, ladies!"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:41 PM
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The Instagram one
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:07 AM
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What's the difference between you and that dude
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:04 AM
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True dat
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:04 AM
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If not ocean why ocean shaped? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:51 AM
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Not even for fame and infamy 🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:50 AM
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Q4singleM: what's stopping you from broadcasting your misery for others' entertaining and rubbernecking?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:20 AM
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Shoot me in the fucking head https://preview.redd.it/itk1vit73q6h1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bbc35ebaea8cb6a1568884ce3c4ed3735c2f655e
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:37 PM
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So you think people are unattractive and have no sexual or romantic attention at all. Not what I said. What I actually said was very simple and clear. But despite the change being in attractiveness only, the reason people are interested in them after the change has got nothing to do with attractiveness. Really?! This is literally the exact opposite of what I said. I don't think further engagement will be productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:53 PM
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No, it's because in aggregate there are different standards of cleanliness and chore schedules to the point where the woman's quality of life and happiness takes a noticeable hit cohabitating with a man. The solution is to stop doing that, which is what many women increasingly do. They then get bitched at for their "runaway hypergamy" keeping men single I also note your complete lack of first-hand sources for what "women are admitting"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:39 PM
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I'm saying they should be honest and admit it's about looks, not the bullshit about personality. Yrah, and I'm saying I don't think this actually happens
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:36 PM
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I don't believe in this incel AU where no one ever says they were sexually attracted to someone based on looks, only their "good personality"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:01 PM
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Yeah, I don't think that happens
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:49 PM
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This is truly what I've never understood about "glow up" resentment. I'm sure they were less attracted to, or weren't attracted to unattractive people too. Why would other people work any differently? "People weren't attracted to me when I wasn't attractive, and they are attracted to me when I am attractive!! How unfair" like no, that's simple cause and effect buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:12 PM
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DEI, whatever you think of it, is a massive, cross-institutional organism that by definition does not represent them Not sure if you know this, but not all men are white.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:03 PM
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These observations are a large part of why I truly couldn't care less about all the crybabies who have an issue with my "tone" and how I say things. Men routinely say far worse on this sub, every single day, and yet me not talking to a guy like he's a toddler makes me a psychopath. Sure. Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:42 PM
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Whatever you need to tell yourself dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:14 PM
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I wasn't bringing up "gay men's interactions with straight men," I was bringing up gay men's interactions with gay men 🥴 Guess no bingo for you! You keep talking about sexualization like it's inextricably linked to what people wear. It's not. That's my entire point. Gay men don't fuck based on clothes, they fuck based on male sexuality. Whether someone is "open to it" has nothing to do with looking at them sexually because you want to fuck that sex. It's clear that you just deny the already esta…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:13 PM
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You don't like my tone, which justifies personal attacks? Like I said, interesting logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:38 PM
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I remember a popular post awhile back that showed a lot of frogs trying to mate with one female frog. They just kept jumping on her. The comments were nothing but jokes. It took some time before I came across a comment that pointed out the female frog was actually dead from drowning. I suppose that really didn't matter though because haha frogs tryna fuck, just like us 😜🤪 There's also far too many people who genuinely believe it's cruel to spay your dog or cat before she's had at least one chanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:20 PM
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Ironically 100% of your recent comments involving me have been nothing but personal attacks; meanwhile, I wasn't attacking her nor was I being uncivil. There's a reason why your comments get deleted and mine stay up. It's not as hard for me to follow the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:05 PM
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Yes, opinions are like assholes, but what you've read other people say on your algorithm or wherever isn't what I said in my comment. So you're still not engaging with the substance of what I said, just throwing a bunch of red herrings at me. I never said no one says relationships aren't damaging btw, I said comparatively people don't belabor how harmful they are compared to the harm of casual sex. Don't think this exchange will be productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:41 AM
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Oxytocin is released from a lot of things. Like I said: there is societal conditioning of women to not indulge in sexual fulfillment via casual sex based on sexist attitudes. And I do think many, if not most women aren't oriented towards strictly casual encounters. You're not really engaging with the substance of my comment, just repeating yourself. I already acknowledged that many women don't handle casual sex well. My specific rebuttal is that the focus on the "harm" of casual sex to women is …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:32 AM
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Personally I find the idea that casual sex, specifically, is so uniquely damaging to women to be a bit of a psyop. Most harm that comes to women in the context of heterosexual relationships isn't from casual sex or situationships, it's from their monogamous relationships. And yet that doesn't get anywhere near the amount of focus and hysteria that casual sex does. This isn't to disagree with the concept of sociosexuality in general. I do think many, if not most women aren't oriented towards stri…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:16 AM
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I don't mind the tatts. Not a fan of the plastic surgery but man was foiiiine in his peak
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:44 AM
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My straight David Bromstad still hasn't manifested Gay male privilege Underprivileged straight female oppression Consider this my official contribution to pride month 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:10 AM
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I wonder what he's say if you asked him if gay men sexualize other men less based on what they're wearing 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:03 AM
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"I know you are but what am I" ahh post
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:51 AM
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Roleplay on the spectrum
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:47 AM
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Okay. Nothing I said was "all-encompassing" anything, so this is a weird reply. I also linked two other extensive comments that added more context to self-interest, but I didn't write my comment to convince you, so... I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with this information. I just explained my opinion like you asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 08:58 PM
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Biology and rational self-interest, as I've recently elaborated upon here and here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:26 PM
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Irrelevant to the point
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:38 AM
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Acknowledgement of what exactly? The point made in the very comment it was replying to. That wasn't a whataboutism. The topic is about the sexualization of women. "Women sexualize themselves" is indeed the definition of a whataboutism. It's like taking a topic of "the murder of women" and replying "women murder themselves." That is to say, nonsensical. That's literally sexual signaling. It's completely irrelevant to whether a man will sexualize a woman. Male sexuality views females as potential …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:16 AM
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This is the attitude I wish more parents had, but they don't and I don't think they ever will.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:17 AM
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I have multiple friends who have have had kids since COVID. It's extremely monotonous. I logically understand the appeal of the parts people who want children talk about (even though I can't empathize with finding it desirable), but the parts they wistfully talk about comprise like 5-15% of the actual job of parenting. Moreso as they get older for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:13 AM
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but is it still revolting if they are nice, respectful, and caring but might not be conventionally attractive? This is what you asked, and what I answered
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:09 AM
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Almost no woman, regardless of how the man looks, would find a relationship with a man who only wanted a relationship with her "because she's his only option to get laid" to be desirable I don't understand how that's not self-evident
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:06 AM
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He's excited to have people live out his fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:02 PM
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The first age was 17, which is weird but whatever. Still can be into sports, or any other things that aren't just "talking." And then he went on to mention his sons in sports multiple times. This is a man who clearly has specific ideas of what his children will be into. God help him if he only has daughters. And I think it was also funny how he immediately skipped to the "they're really independent and almost out of the house" years lmao, that's not raising children Vacation parent mentality in …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:49 PM
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I mean, as long as you're along for the ride lol I'm fortunate that my parents, for all their many flaws, allowed me to be who I am. I read stories of other people, especially childfree people, being harassed and nagged by their parents whose visions for their lives included procreating. So much unnecessary preventable drama based on projecting who you wanted your children to be instead of who they are. Works the same for sexual orientation, or career paths, etc. I'd argue a large plurality of d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:18 PM
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It's weird how he already has all the sons being into sports, meanwhile the girl just... talks about her day? Parents should only be parents if they want to parent. Not based on a fantasy, an idealized version of who their children will be and the lives they will have. Whatabout a mentally ill daughter? What about a paralyzed son? I can look around and see generations upon generations of untold trauma and damage caused to children who never lived up to the idea of who their parents expected them…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:11 PM
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I did not deny that. What would you call your complete lack of acknowledgement and subsequent whataboutism here? I denied the idea that women sexualizing themselves has no effect on men's perception of women's sexual signaling, sexual availability etc. This post isn't about "sexual signaling and availability," it's about the idea that the way a woman dresses makes a man think about her sexually. That's going to happen regardless. Whether a woman would be "receptive" to such thoughts has nothing …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:52 PM
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Average guy's only option is to rely on friend groups and be a loser, because that is his only option to get laid, It's amazing how on this sub, day in and day out, the lower female interest in relationships with men continue to be blamed on dating apps; delusionality; narcissism; superficiality; and hypergamy. As if the option to be some "average loser's" cum sock isn't inherently revolting
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:48 PM
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That's a male, doing what males do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:43 PM
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I never denied the capacity for women to sexualize themselves You did deny the reality that male sexuality inherently sexualizes females
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:03 PM
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Feel free to deny biology
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:45 PM
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It's 100% fetish posting, and not even subtle about it They're getting lazier
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:34 PM
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Women sexualizing themselves isn't what causes men to sexualize us. HTH
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:32 PM
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And men can and do sexualize women and younger based on nothing but their own sexuality, regardless of what they do or wear or behave. There is no amount of "modesty" that reduces testosterone
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:13 PM
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He got banned, came back some time later under an alt which also got banned. Meanwhile there's another dude here who's been banned from Reddit before and his new account just keeps on trucking
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:47 PM
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So quiet, in fact, only he can hear it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:30 AM
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The average woman earning less than the average man does not stop most women from dating down If the overwhelming majority of men around you are taller than you, then you'll probably end up partnering with someone taller than you without having to go out of your way to do so for a "preference" Same applies to earning more You really don't have an argument here dude
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:28 AM
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It's absolutely relevant, once again based on the definition of the word "average" It's easy to keep believing you're correct if you just immediately dismiss all valid rebuttals as "irrelevant," but I've clearly disproven your argument
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:10 AM
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I completely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:09 AM
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Even if the average man earns more is taller than the average woman, there’s nothing stopping most women from dating down; they choose not to. Nothing except probability 🥴
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:07 AM
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Nothing about what you said is correct based on the definition of the word average.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:24 PM
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If most men earn more than most women then you can't really make the point you're trying to make here. It makes about as much of a point as pointing out how most women "choose men" who are taller than they are. As it stands, data shows a decreasing earnings gap in marriage; increasing egalitarianism; and increasing female breadwinners. I think the manosphere needs to update their program but for whatever reason continue to choose feelings over facts by ignoring data that disproves their narrativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:17 PM
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No, it's quite insane to compare not cumming in a hole with having a gun to your head, I assure you Men are quite dumb for fucking what disgusts them. Unless men aren't capable of self-control and higher order thinking, I'm going to try to give men credit here and assume normal human being cognitive capacity. Unless you think I should view them like mindless animals?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:35 PM
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I assure you, women are very familiar with men's emotional blackmail and performative outrage It's commonly mocked <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:42 AM
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Good genes are good genes My ex had a smokin hot brother. Obvs never did anything with him in any way (nor did I even want to), but I recognized he was very attractive. If you make one attractive kid you'll probably make more 🤷🏿 just how genes tend to work
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:53 AM
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Because it explains why males evolved an aversion to female promiscuity I didn't ask for that though. I never implied that I was confused about male aversion to female promiscuity. What I'm asking about is why a specific man would claim to be so disgusted and so averse to it and then turn around and fuck what he's disgusted by and averse to. At that point he doesn't get to use his excuses about "promiscuity" and "paternity" for why he's thinking about dicks while in a pussy. Deperation and stupi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:55 AM
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He's not likely concerned with paternity So why bring it up? As to why he'd fuck a promiscuous woman: desperation. Stupidity, got it. No one to blame but himself
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:38 AM
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Once again, you make zero sense Why is a man naked in bed with a woman if he's so concerned about her "promiscuity" and "paternity" in the first place? Are men stupid? According to you, the answer is yes. Because he's decided to have sex with her, but all he can think about are other mens' dicks because of how much of a slut she is. And boy does he hate sluts, but he's also still fucking her
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:28 AM
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Based on English language
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:24 AM
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Non sequitur
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:22 AM
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A lot of words to justify thinking about dicks when you're balls deep in a pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:20 AM
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I deny that this post is made in good faith and that any answers other than ones you've already determined are correct are said from female mouths
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:17 AM
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That seems disingenuous
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:04 AM
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Still waiting for you to provide them 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:02 AM
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What the OP was clear about was that there are specific answers you're looking for that no one has yet provided, since you ask this over and over and over again and nothing anyone has said thus far is acceptable So if we're always wrong, then clearly you have the right answer
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:00 AM
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Nowhere, got it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:57 AM
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Where did I say "most men"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:55 AM
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Repeatedly posting the same topic and internalizing none of the replies is indeed spam Help us help you. What answers are you looking for us to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:54 AM
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I have a better idea, since you keep spamming this topic on this sub and have all these conditions for our responses. Clearly there's a specific response you want us to give. Why don't you tell us what answers you'll find acceptable, and we'll pick from the list? That way we don't waste our time or yours. Again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:40 AM
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Well in general, women are kind of sexually attracted to other women. What is your proof of this and what does it mean to be "kind of" sexually attracted? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:22 AM
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Imagine fucking a woman and only thinking about other mens' dicks ☠️ Whatever makes you nut ig, but how is that not sus fr. When I'm interacting with dick guess what's on my mind? Dick. ::edit:: based on the numerous personal attacks I've woken up to, it seems like logical, rational men are quite in their feelings about this straightforward observation 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:14 AM
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Bisexuality requires personally being sexually attracted, not just being able to see that a person is visually attractive. It's how the concept of sexual orientation works. If you're not actually sexually attracted then it's not a part of your sexual orientation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:06 AM
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Going on my ignore list ✌🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:36 PM
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Going on my ignore list ✌🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:34 PM
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Going on my ignore list ✌🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:33 PM
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So? It's not a question women can answer. It's for men to determine for themselves. It makes about as much sense as a straight woman asking straight men what she's supposed to like about dick. If you couldn't get that from what I wrote, I can't help you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:31 PM
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Not sure what the point of these pissy whiny rants are. If you don't see anything likable about women why would we care, much less enough to try to convince you? It's perfectly valid to stay away from us. No one is going to make you have a relationship with us and I don't understand why we'd sit here and beg you to anyway. Clearly it'd be downright miserable for all parties involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:20 PM
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I have an old house that was retrofitted with ductwork for A/C. It had two staircases but the back one that split to the kitchen was destroyed for ductwork 😭 but technically I could actually do this if I wanted to lose a vent. And not care about code ig But my sign would be a dog-washing station, fully loaded. Heated dryer, etc. Probably one of those separate water sources too for feeding lmao <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:07 PM
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Irrelevant to the point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 07:26 PM
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Which parts have been proven to be "manufactured," specifically? Graham has directly admitted to being a POS under the umbrella of post combat alcoholism and his wife confirmed him texting other women at the beginning of their marriage. Different women having different experiences with him is completely aligned with an alcohol-related Jekyll/Hyde personality. His mea culpa is that he's "changed" and "grown," despite the very recent signs of infidelity. It's extremely possible for someone to be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:35 PM
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Finally we are in agreement. I have long spoken the gospel of the eyebrow pill
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:30 PM
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Uh what?? Where did you get that idea? The image I attached? 🫩 I don't think it's confusing that if you post an image to make some kind of point, people might respond to what is in the image you purposefully chose to use to make your point If so, i only attached that as an example that virgin or low-N-count relationship doesn't necessarily mean impending FOMO and/or a transactional view of sex. And in doing so apparently completely overlooked the more worrying underlying mentality of the person …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:00 PM
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Wow, I could have an unhealthy codependent relationship had I only stayed a virgin??! FML I don't think the appeal of this is what you think it is to women. But I suppose it's my experience that makes me recognize it for what it is 🤷🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 05:06 PM
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My dad just sent this in the family chat and it jam-packs almost everything I hate about "content creation" culture: there's four layers of content here. There's an original video, which isn't even a particularly clever or funny joke the joke video was reposted by someone else who just added his own reaction at the end that added zero additional insight or value then another woman took that reaction video of the original unfunny joke and spliced it with her own loop of laughter, once again addin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 09:31 PM
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Fuck it, if we have to deal with a spate of these posts now I'll take it <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:46 PM
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For the final time, you can believe the science or not but there's no point trying to argue with me about it like that will change reality
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:39 PM
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Men over-index in pretty much every correlating trait under the narcissism umbrella, even without a triggering situation or circumstance. This has nothing to do with who is "catered to." This is not even debatable, this is already established behavioral science.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:25 PM
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I'm just going to copy and paste, since this is the exact same strawman I've already addressed: My comment made an observation of potential for women to know shitty men in her family, not a declaration of guarantee The comment you replied to was two comments deep into a specific comment chain with a very specific context, so I'm very confused how men keep reaching it completely lost about what I'm saying and why It has nothing to do with grandparents, specifically. It's any older relative. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:17 PM
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How much "validation" women get doesn't make us want to oppress men and revoke their rights. The problem is within men. The problem is male ego. The problem is the possession of the gun. Your attempt to parse the reason why some would behave in such a manner vs others is completely irrelevant, because my point is that it all stems from the same condition of being a man. As I already irritatingly observed in the very comment you replied to: Where are all the women threatening to "drop out of soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:07 AM
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I was clarifying that contrary to implications it's not an innate problem with men, just a difference in circumstance. Oversimplifying what I said to a mere matter of "difference in circumstance" flattens the meaning of the point to an absurd degree that invalidates the existence of problems themselves. "There's no innate problem with the brakes, just a difference in circumstance between your non-functioning ones and properly functioning ones." "There's no innate problems with slavery, just a di…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 05:28 AM
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The difference is because lower desirability groups of women still get some form of validation, while lower desirability groups of men often literally get nothing (even if they try to be productive, helpful, morally upstanding individuals). What point did I make in the quoted text that this is responding to, specifically? This seems like a complete non-sequitur. Been getting a lot of those lately for some reason It's based on common women's complaints, generalizations, and hostile tones. For exa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 05:03 AM
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Right, non sequitur like I said. And cheating/abuse aren't the only forms of "dysfunction" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:00 AM
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My comment made an observation of potential for women to know shitty men in her family, not a declaration of guarantee It had literally nothing at all to do with whatever you just said it was, and I'm honestly baffled how you gleaned such a topic from the actual exchange that was made
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:55 AM
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A counter example implies I made a comment containing a premise that could be debated with one. I didn't
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:47 AM
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What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:44 AM
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According to how human beings actually make decisions though, which is more or less rational self-interests based on costs/benefits or risks vs rewards It's totally not
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:57 AM
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Chili cheese dog supremacy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:43 AM
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Exactly. I have abusive male relatives on both sides. I have cheaters on all sides. They're not hypothetical, I know them by name. Hell, I even know my own father wasn't faithful and even my mom doesn't know that. He doesn't even know I know. It's not some third-world "arranged marriage" cultural concept, it's men and anywhere men are. And then they turn around and pretend like the only "damage" and "baggage" women have is from being "pumped and dumped by Chads" lmao. Sure little buddy, keep tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:24 AM
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I'm sorry, did you not see the rape in your haste to blame women for the behavior of men? No need to reply, I'm ignoring you regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 09:32 PM
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Ignoring a potential problem is not smart. The solution for the "potential problem" is unviable. I disagree. Glad that's settled. Yes I wouldn't. Another irreconcilable difference 🤷🏿 Whatever a group wants is worthy of consideration if you want their vote. Argumentum ad absurdum incoming - "we'll vote for men's rights if men throw themselves off the Golden Gate Bridge." How does one meaningfully "consider" that? I will never forget how it feels to be an incel. To forget it is to insult all the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 09:29 PM
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It's truly fascinating how men refuse to acknowledge this dynamic. I'm an American but even just a couple days ago was learning brand new information about half-relatives on my mom's side. Her mom had several children with a man starting when she was 18 years old with my 21-year-old granddad, who also cheated and my mom found out about half-siblings in her thirties. My mom's maternal grandfather never married but still partnered and cheated. My maternal grandmother is the first group of offsprin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:58 PM
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If you are stupid. Sure. I guess that could be the case of you are not smart about it. This doesn't make sense in context. You can't be "smart about" the feelings someone else is trying to inspire in you. Then be smart. Ignoring it is smart. You can't reason people out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. Men feeling like a wife and children is their only "viable path to happiness" is a problem within men. This makes about as much sense as women declaring "our only viable path to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:41 PM
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So we're just going to assume these men had mind reading capabilities Got it, men are stupid. It doesn't require "mind-reading capabilities" to understand how coercion works, but if you'd like to plead ignorance I can engage with that argument too. Why are men so insistent on women needing them if they don't grasp this basic concept, hmm? Why do we have post after post about "punishing" women by taking away reproductive control and revoking the 19th and how men will "let society rot" because no …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:23 PM
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It would make you address the issue before it becomes a problem. It makes you susceptible to bullshit manipulation attempts. Fear is wielded in this manner by politicians constantly. And this is exactly your motivation, if you were being honest. What they want is a viable path towards happiness. The traditional way to get those is having a relationship and kids. Once again, other human beings, who aren't for sale. This is not a reasonable, rational demand. Because I'd you don't care or pay atten…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:02 PM
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Let's say you are afraid a demographic is going to start voting against your interests. Why would we be "afraid?" What is being afraid going to change? Instead of ignoring them just accepting that they will do what they want to do you can think like a politician and ask yourself what can you give to that demographic so they vote the way you want them to vote. Everyone wants something. What they want are human beings, who are not for sale. Their demands are inherently unreasonable and unrealistic…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:32 PM
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Yes, we know that already. This is how voting works. Why is that supposed to make women change us working in our self-interests? What is there for us, specifically, to be careful about? What is fretting about men supposed to change? They're going to do what they want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:25 PM
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That doesn't answer why. Like what are women supposed to do with that info? "Oh no, men vote." Yeah, we know that already...? What is there to be "careful" about, just because people vote?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:23 PM
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Why are you spamming this under the replies?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:17 PM
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I have no idea what you're talking about, I don't keep up with Spain and have no clue why I would. There are hundreds of countries in the world dude. Women are just as capable of not going to college and being NEETs mooching off our parents or the government - in fact, according to your pill, that's all we ever do which is why women don't and have never contributed anything meaningful to society. But since women are self-motivated aside from being handed other people as rewards, we aren't acting…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:15 PM
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I like that your takeaway is that women feigned love instead of men not giving a shit how they felt as long as they "submitted" and obeyed. Do you think the men in the most oppressive, patriarchal cultures today believe their wives "love" them? The "kinds of guys getting the most women" are a combination of looks/extroversion/low neuroticism. I'm not sure why this is supposed to be some sort of groundbreaking, earth-shattering revelation to men. Where are all the women threatening to "drop out o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:53 PM
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Today saw a very weird thing that a man did for women by giving her a seat and I gave him a lecture about everything written in this post and he agreed, so we need to send this message to more men especially young men who are brainwashed by feminist prapoganda. That man's name? Say it with me now: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:20 PM
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The only "rights" you explicitly enumerated to "fight against" abortion and birth control. Great, so we get that angle. Take away options for fertility management and hormonal issues (not to mention some completely unrelated medications like Accutane literally require hormonal birth control) in order to punish women. What all's included in the "etc." though? That's just one aspect. How else should women be "punished" for not supporting men enough? Because honestly this just makes men look even m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 09:39 AM
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No quote, just your made up bullshit of things I never said Got it, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:29 AM
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This is when they start making qualifications on it like they do in car commercials lmao. Except instead of "best rated mid-size sedan in the upper peninsula from May 2025 - August 2025" it's "average for my preferred age and weight and class and femininity."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:31 AM
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Feel free to quote where I specifically said "the majority of women are self actualized" and we can have that conversation champ Cause holy non sequitur Robin
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:48 AM
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Q4M: is this what you mean by wife material? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:09 AM
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Aww, did that touch a nerve? Pity. I was just repeating what men say 🤷🏿 I look forward to you speaking out against them as well!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 12:50 AM
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I paid for myself and always have. I communicate this in advance. It has nothing to do with whether I like a guy or not, it's my own universal boundary because I don't like feeling indebted and don't want to deal with the stupid "sex pls??" transactional mindset of some men who pay. It's not adversarial so much as it is self-interest. I don't have to worry about the stupid pulling out my purse fakeout song-and-dance nor the costs of whatever I order. He can also relax and enjoy the date without …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 12:16 AM
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Male egos don't die without incalculable collateral damage. Men on this sub have made that abundantly clear. Women turn inwards and can eventually reach peace. We leave men alone. Men turn outwards and cause violence and chaos, or at best turn a blind eye to the violence and chaos around them out of resentment. The male ego is like a dying star - sure, it can die, but it's going to take everything in its path with it. That's why all this framing about dating and birth rates always invariably com…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:36 PM
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Men are incredibly emotional and sensitive. This is not a slight, I think it’s normal (to a degree for people generally). What I find abnormal is the lack of self awareness about this amongst yourselves. It's crazy to me the number of times they'll posture about how dangerous society will get for women if we don't pair up with them and fuck them enough and have enough babies with them, all the while trying to claim some sort of monopoly on logic and reason. I've never once read a woman saying sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:16 PM
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I find they often conflate understanding why a feeling exists with that being logical. There's also an inherent automatic assumption that since they are logical, any feelings they have must be logical. E.g. "I feel insecure and jealous when a woman does xyz, therefore it is logical for me to control her doing xyz. And because I'm logical, the jealously and insecurity I feel is completely appropriate." This is why only women are emotional and they aren't. Only women behave in irrational ways or h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 04:59 PM
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British couple jailed in Iran have lost appeal against convictions, family says "They were jailed after their arrest in January 2025 while travelling through Iran during a round-the-world trip by motorcycle." IYKYK <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:58 PM
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Well, we know our areas of disagreement. I don't think men in the west are currently nearly as bad at being partners as you say, much less biologically bound to be so--though biology is real. Because you're determined to blame hypergamy instead due to your models, instead of internalizing the very real complaints of modern women. You could make every man hot and rich tomorrow and that's only going to make the initial hurdle of attraction in dating easier to surpass. It's not going to address the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:37 PM
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Most people of both genders don't think big picture. But more of those who do are male. And for them, it isn't primarily because they want to get laid more. I completely disagree. I think the overwhelming majority of it absolutely is virtue-signaling for compulsive sexuality. Some hypergamy always makes sense and still allows the monogamy math to work. The ideal pairing rate is not gonna be 100%--in the NW European marriage pattern, something like 20-25% of women never married for hundreds of ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:57 AM
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What I'm saying is that this observation that men understand this more is based on an erroneous assumption that these men actually care about the birth rates. They talk about this more not because they really believe in this, but as a more acceptable cover and framing for the fact that they want sex or think sex is a need. It's not as socially accepted to talk about that. It's better to virtue-signal about "birth rates." And there is no gender-fair solution because relationships and babies are i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:56 AM
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Men want kids out of narcissism and ego, not out of duty to society. That's why when they talk about the reasons why they want them it's either dumb shit like "I want to teach them what I know" "I want to play catch with them" or "my last name." None of them actually want to be fathers, they want the vacation parent experience. Historical rates of abandonment belie this narrative about "duty to society" as well as who wants to be a primary parent after divorce. I don't really think you're being …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:38 AM
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There's no reason why everything has to be 1-to-1 "equal," nothing I said was "this specific undesirable trait is directly equal to this specific undesirable trait in the opposite sex." What I said was that the groupings of desirable traits and groupings of undesirable traits are matched with equal groupings in the opposite sex. This is not saying that every grouping will have the exact same number of traits as the opposite sex grouping.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:52 AM
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No, I disagree with the framing entirely. No one thinks about preferences in terms of "valid" or not. Not getting universal enthusiastic reception of your preferences isn't "invalidating." It's people having opinions, which are like assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:55 PM
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Nothing I said was about any of that. I observed that no one frames their thinking of others' standards as "valid" or not, and I concluded that it's irrational to expect or blame women for being opposed to the imposition of "standards" that harm them I never remarked on what people can do or not, or what is "valid" for them to do or not
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:43 PM
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If you want a traditional woman they exist regardless of what "mass validation" there is for those standards. If you want a virgin woman they exist regardless of what "mass validation" there is for this standard. Compatibility is about alignment, not "tolerance." If men need society to brainwash or condition women into "tolerating" their standards then that's just a sign that your standards aren't in their best interests. Not really rational to malign society or women for that 🤷🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:35 PM
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No one has to "validate" standards in the first place is my entire point. They exist and you can have whatever standards you want. What other people think has fuck all to do with your ability to filter for people who meet your standards and reject people who don't. There's no "standards police" who are going to hold you at gunpoint and make you date people outside of your standards. You are arguing about the enforcement of something that is ultimately completely meaningless and inconsequential. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:33 PM
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What I already said. Generic npc rectangle thin plastic/metal frames. Avoid any variation of that theme. Go larger and/or experiment with different shapes. Square, circle, etc. Try a bold color, or even frameless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:09 PM
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Well I can't help you there either bud, I'm a rando on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:00 PM
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How they are received is a different conversation than whether they are "valid" or not. There's no such thing as "valid" or "invalid" standards. I also have no idea what "equal consideration" even looks like as it applies to this topic. No one has to "consider" your standards except you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:57 PM
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I don't have a "favorite type in general for most men." It depends on exactly what I've already said. Wherever you get them from has people who are specifically supposed to help you get frames that work for your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:55 PM
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It depends on the guy. His face/eye shape, proportions, and style. But those glasses are flattering to no one
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:46 PM
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Lmao imagine telling a woman she can't like animal rescue content or comedian content because the creator is a man No such thing as "valid" or "invalid" standards. They are what they are. People are going to have their opinions about you regardless of "validity" based on what they are though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:31 PM
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Your explanation doesn't make any sense. Pretending that sexual dimorphism doesn't have any impact on attractiveness doesn't do anything close to what you're claiming it does. And there are much better, more direct and clearer ways to make the point you're trying to say they mean other than "sexual dimorphism doesn't impact looks."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:28 AM
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Yes, I'm close friends with one and it's absolutely fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:25 AM
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It is according to boy math lmao. Which we witness on this sub constantly
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:06 PM
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The only time I've ever been stung was by a bumblebee. Motherfucker had the nerve to fly down my tank top and then freak out on me because of it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:58 PM
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I've long been remarking about this incoherence within this framing. Sexual dimorphism makes the idea of 1-to-1 "matches" fundamentally incoherent, even if you try to use "percentile rankings." A short woman's "match" isn't an equally short man, even proportionally. An overweight woman's "match" isn't necessarily an equally overweight man due to weight distribution. Neoteny is desirable in women and undesirable in men. Musculature and height doesn't have the same buff across sexes. If you want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:06 PM
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I'm not being disingenuous, you're just refusing to understand what I'm saying. I'm done spelling it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 11:22 AM
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My reply was an observation about the reasoning men themselves provided for their answers. It was directly on topic. If a desire to fuck another person within a relationship means that a woman has "irreconcilably lost attraction" to her partner then there's virtually no men who have ever had attraction to their partners to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:48 AM
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Good luck ever getting them to concede this. They're too attached to their "pussy tingles" victim-blaming
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:47 AM
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Once again, I'm being strawmanned because y'all can't actually argue my point. Men have a problem with all of it, and they're hypocritical for all of it. Whether it's "acknowledging attractive men exist," lusting after those men, or wanting to sleep with those men - men do the same things and yet any degree of the same behavior in women is absolutely considered unacceptable and threatening. The replies to legitimate-way confirm this, as does everything I've already observed wrt men's jealousy an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:53 AM
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It's not a fantasy that men want to fuck other women, even when they're in a committed relationship. It's so weird how men only admit this when they want to taunt women but when a woman repeats it back they deny it. The problem obviously is women being attracted to men who aren't her partner, as the replies to legitimate-way and my previous observations have already noted. Women are only supposed to have eyes for their partner and anything else is treated as some sort of existential threat to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:29 AM
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This is implying that the only thing holding you back from accepting is the idea she'd also fuck other people. Men don't truly desire monogamy, and they are regularly attracted to and fantasize about fucking other women. Most of the men on this sub seethe with jealousy over Chad pumping and dumping and take out their feelings on women instead, endlessly insulting and attacking us for being sexually attracted to sexually attractive men and claiming Instagram makes us delusional and sex with attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:10 AM
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Attraction to someone is attraction to someone. Wanting to fuck someone else is wanting to fuck someone else. IDK why men pretend like ability makes a difference here. Fact is, if men could, they would, same as women. I never said watching porn is cheating. That's a strawman. What I said very plainly and directly is that it's obviously attraction to other people. Men watch porn and they fantasize about fucking those women. Men watch hot naked women daily, almost invariably hotter than their actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:59 AM
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Nah, they can't handle women finding other men attractive at all. Hence all the insecurity and paranoia around monkey branching etc. There's literally a guy who said she's "irrevocably lost attraction" just for having interest in fucking another guy. Men never lose the desire to fuck other women - does that mean they can never be attracted to their partners? Should all women internalize that they're "not enough" when their partners watch porn? It's a double-standard. I'm just calling it out caus…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:35 AM
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The answers to this are hilarious. These dudes almost certainly jack off to fucking other women on the daily but a woman finding another man attractive is breakup worthy. As if if she came to them and said "hey babe you're free to fuck other women" they wouldn't jump at the chance 🤣 I can't take men seriously. Apparently women can only be attracted to one man at a time lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:25 AM
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Trying to fix my dumbass hot water heater. I have not one, but two extremely handy FWBs and both are unavailable to help me 😫 BRING 👏🏾 BACK 👏🏾 THE 👏🏾 PATRIARCHY 👏🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:03 AM
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This incel anthem came out in 1995, but we're all still supposed to believe women have been deceiving men about looks until dating apps lmao. Soooo much mogging going on in that video 🤣 Y'all have always known the traits of conventional attractiveness for men. Periodt.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:33 AM
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Two things can be true at once. I do think men generally want kids more than women. The cost/benefit analysis works far more in their favor for it, and they seem far more predisposed to the narcissism inherent to "legacy" desires. I only ever see men trying to clap back at childfree women about "bloodlines." There's also far more men willing to permanently tie themselves to a woman by having children with her, but recoil at the "investment" and "commitment" of marriage. Generally I find most peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:28 AM
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The comments 🤣😭 And like I keep saying, those ugly default NPC glasses are nerfing tf out of soooo many men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:15 AM
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Those are words that attempt to render consent irrelevant under obligation of "contracts" that no one actually signed. That's not how any of that works. Women work and pay taxes too. We get the same thing men do for that - whatever benefits our jobs provide. Men's entitlement to other human beings due to "social contracts" is mens' categorical error in thinking. Men work for money because they need money to live. Same as women. Women are not objects to be handed out to men for working a job. Wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:56 AM
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Live footage of me after a sexually forward guy respects my "no" <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:19 PM
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Yes. But also, being attracted to a man is the same as not seeing him as a human being. Because title Having conditions for dating consideration is dehumanizing doncha know. You should treat all men as equal options, interchangeable with each other and have zero personal preferences or deal-breakers. That's the only way to not objectify or dehumanize men It's just makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:01 PM
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Ah, my b. Well I guess in a way you have "earned" it lol. Oysters etc. are an interesting thing. Is it okay to kill what doesn't feel pain? Of course not, but it's also a matter of what you consider "harm" or "suffering." Or even "alive." Plants are alive but don't feel pain. What's the meaningful difference between them and an oyster besides taxonomy? We can't actually know for sure that oysters don't feel pain anyway. There aren't really good vegan arguments for their consumption that I've eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:14 PM
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Lanternflies don't bite fam. I'm okay with a mosquito genocide though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:03 PM
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I think it's a matter of the distance we put between ourselves and our food. The sanitization of what meat is. Even the word is objectifying - meat isn't living. Meat has no feelings or consciousness. Animals do. But packaged up and dyed, you don't really see animals. Seafood, of course, is a bit different. We see their glassy eyes and it's normal. I think we view seafood as animals due to presentation, but lacking in sentience. Very little difference externally between a living crab and a dead …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:00 PM
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What's even more fucked up is that I'm vegan(ish?), but even that is debatable. I do kill insects in my house. Not 100% if it's reasonable I can relocate them, and I try to give flies a chance to fly back out the door, but still. I still feed my dog animal products. There's a real discussion to be had about harm minimization, convenience, and practicality. Meat and dairy relies on a metric shitton of subsidies to be as affordable as it is, even though that's also decreasing. I also recognize tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:37 PM
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I feel like there were always going to be too many of them though. By the time they are in multiple states, they outnumber us so severely that it'd take a chemical solution or ecological disruption to stop them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:51 PM
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I'm drinking coffee on my back porch and there's an immature spotted lantern fly on the table. I didn't feel the need to squish it. I was more curious about whatever happened to that whole hysteria in the first place. I googled "should you still kill spotted lanternflies" and curiously enough, the overwhelming majority of articles are two years old. It was pretty difficult to find new information. It was such an intense panic for awhile, but now... nothing? I found this article as the most recen…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:44 PM
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