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Truly troubled times we live in, sister
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:24 AM
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First they came for the Blue Pilled Women And I did not speak out Because I was not a Blue Pilled Woman Then they came for the Blue Pilled Men And I did not speak out Because I was not a Blue Pilled Man Then they came for the Feminists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Feminist Then they came for the Red Pilled Women And I did not speak out Because I was not a Red Pilled Woman Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:12 AM
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🫩 What is the "delusion," specifically. Bonus points if you can provide an answer that isn't regurgitated manosphere gibberish and is actually objective reality, as is required to establish an actual delusion Not agreeing with mens' feelings of insecurity and inadequacy does not "delusion" make
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:08 AM
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Meanwhile, on another post 14 days ago, same guy says he's never had a relationship 🙄 You guys keep falling for this shit. Why? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:51 AM
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You’re almost certainly the incorrect one. Once again: Of course you don't think you overrate anyone, everyone thinks their ratings are accurate. That's how that works Your repeated emphasis and strong belief in the accuracy of your own subjective opinions is only compelling evidence to yourself. I can’t think of any verbal disagreements of any ratings of mine, or other people who disagreed with me. Most people don't care about some random Redditor's opinion, much less enough to challenge it. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:40 PM
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Depends on who you ask There's a fairly consistent consensus among the men on this sub, as I noted, that male attractiveness is numbers and colors. The numbers especially are correlated with their equally autistic concepts of "looksmatching" that ignores trivialities like sexual dimorphism because it's inconvenient to the framework. Whatever your personal beliefs are, there's still a larger pattern on this sub of how male attractiveness "should" work, and on this basis women are frequently accus…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:34 PM
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I didn't say you rated an unattractive guy as attractive. I said you overrated the male half of a couple. It's a subjective disagreement. Whatever baseline you have for rating looks is greatly divergent from mine accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:30 PM
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I can't remember, I just remember my conclusion lol. Of course you don't think you overrate anyone, everyone thinks their ratings are accurate. That's how that works
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:44 PM
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White Knight Hall of Famer
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:43 PM
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I'm going to paste part of my other comment: If this guy had posted to r/hinge saying he wasn't getting many matches, there would have been countless men there and here using him as an example of "runaway hypergamy," "hoeflation" and "female delusion." It would have been "even ChaAaAaD is struggling!! 😩😩" But now in this context of course he's a crazy looking super mid dude lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:37 PM
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I've seen who you consider looksmatched and you greatly overrate men. I don't personally find Kohberger attractive then or now, but according to how the men on this sub think men should be considered attractive (autistically broken down into a bunch of numbers and colors) then clearly he fits the requirements. So no, I wouldn't "call every other individual 'Stacy' and 'Chad' 'in university areas'" or anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:34 PM
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I think it's some of that for sure. I also think there's a bit of disingenuousness, cause I've seen too many people try to present male attractiveness as a bunch of checkboxes in order to call women delusional and hypergamous for disagreeing to accept so much nuance and context now. Men are the ones who have been insisting on breaking down attractiveness into meeting specific numbers and colors. Yet now that isn't the case when it goes against the manosphere narrative? Bit hard to believe that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:27 PM
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Once again, I was never talking about you, and I don't have the patience for the gaslighting about "no one." This is done.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:21 PM
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I’m certainly not mad. I don't care about you, where did I ping you? Where in my comment was I ever talking about you. No where. You just came in with your gaslighting "no one is mad" shit and I don't have the patience for it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:19 PM
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No one is mad Girl bye
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:16 PM
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Exactly. I'm aware that many people aren't attracted to me for a number of reasons, some within my control and some without. But since I don't feel entitled to be found attractive and to be dated by people, I couldn't care less. It's normally not malicious anyway just like many of the reasons I'm not attracted to or want to date groups of people. Like let's say for example people assume I'm fat, or come from a single parent household because of reasons. These would both be inaccurate but the lar…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:18 PM
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Anyone being mad at people for not wanting to date them is de facto entitlement, regardless of the reason or justification. Dating is a completely voluntary, optional activity requiring mutual consent. Attraction is involuntary, as are turn offs and incompatibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:07 PM
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Brian Kohberger is a good case study that disproves a lot of the unsupported narratives commonly espoused on this sub. He was known for being creepy and called out as such. Women had spot-on vibes about him, even though we're supposed to believe that only happens because men are ugly trolls and never due to any actually creepy behavior. Does he look more like the guy in the top or bottom panel in that dumb HR call comic? He's 6' with bLuE eYeS yet... still a virulent dry-dicked misogynistic ince…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:20 PM
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Yeah, but in the interest of "fairness" that's how attraction "should" work so not adhering to this is "unreasonable." Whether I find most, or a significant amount of men attractive at a baseline varies significantly depending on location. Something as minor as a neighborhood change can affect this. I attended a couple of conferences recently and was surrounded by so many attractive men. But you put me at a comic book convention and I'm probably going to have the exact opposite experience. Men h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:48 PM
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Who decides what's fair? Men. Obvs. This has been the persistent theme of these claims in this sub for years. Only men know what is reasonable, attractive, accurate, and "fair" Because men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:14 PM
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I'm perfectly allowed to have an opinion about plastic surgery without having gone to medical school. I find your demands for some sort of medical training and expertise in order to observe with my own eyes and form opinions accordingly wholly unreasonable and unrealistic. I don't have to be an artist to have an opinion on good or bad art. I don't have to be a musician to have an opinion on good or bad music. I don't have to be a plastic surgeon to have an opinion on good or bad plastic surgery.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:13 PM
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Why does this guy keep getting posted here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:42 PM
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I think it's silly to expect a consensus from women when men themselves can't even make up their own fucking minds if they are good people or not And I mocked the haughty tone of your post, I didn't "insult you" FFS I don't care about that study or what other women think about it. I said what I wanted to say about what I wanted to say it about
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:45 PM
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I did answer 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:39 PM
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An ugly face still nerfs that, because female sexuality isn't male sexuality. When women say "hot" it's a holistic take and also encompasses behavior. Men can just take "hot" to mean "20 years old, slim with a bubble butt." She can have fucking Downs or Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and they'll still thirst over a tight ass and boob mechanics Have you guys learned nothing from Haaland? Simply having specific body parts alone will never be an "elite combo" for women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:30 PM
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Nose jobs vary more, sure. Many of those aren't ethnically congruent and will be way more obvious than streamlining a bump or something. I'm not sure if I can confidently agree that "most" are unclockable but I will agree that it has more variance of realism than a lot of other procedures. I've looked at various things over the years just as tangents to other things that I've been reading about. I don't have an exhaustive list of every single doctor, place, or procedure, or date and honestly all…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:04 PM
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I think women are taken less seriously for a variety of reasons, many unrelated to size or height. I do think there is some effect for a woman's height to be correlated with authority/power/beauty - it is interesting to me that both Melania Trump and Michelle Obama are exceptionally tall women, but Kamala Harris/Hillary Clinton as you noted along with Jill Biden and Laura Bush are more or less average height. Many of the most popular/prominent female politicians aren't particularly tall either. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:15 PM
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I already linked an example of what I consider very good plastic surgery. I stand by my assertion most of it is obvious and makes a woman's appearance worse or just unattractive in a different way. I've looked at literal before/afters on actual surgeon sites, so I'm not just oversampling poor work. These are supposed to be their best work, and it's still unnatural looking. And if most of the work that is done is filler work vs "actual tissue" then my observations are still correct that most plas…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:20 PM
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It's just typical market manipulation tactics. Shortness doesn't nerf a woman's sex appeal like it does for men so they try to portray this as a moral grievance to pressure short women into feeling superficial for being sexually attracted to the same traits every other straight woman is. If men wanted "heightism" to be taken seriously as a concept they would have to avoid trying to center it around entitlement to getting their dicks wet, which they are largely completely incapable of doing becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:41 AM
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These subs are complete horseshit and no one should take them seriously for anything
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:35 PM
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Idk man, lip filler by nature puts more into the lips than the skin was meant to hold and seems to give it an unnatural puffy texture/appearance. It takes the natural creases and nooks and crannies out. I've never seen a before/after that I couldn't clock. But sometimes BBLs can look natural like Doechii 🤷🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:17 PM
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Obviously I'm not a man but idk, to me it almost always makes them look unattractive, just in a different way than before. There are rare exceptions (like this woman, who has also had a nose job that optimized her looks really well) but for the most part it just makes them look fake and uncanny valley. And sometimes takes away the character of their face. If you're talking bodywise then I don't have a strong opinion on that. Lipo usually "looks" okay I guess but without exercise or diet it looks…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:11 PM
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This is a circular definition that proves nothing. A woman finding any man attractive is de facto proof she considers such a man "better than her" under this framework, which is in and of itself a pretty unfalsifiable claim Furthermore it essentially distills down to "she finds something attractive about the man" which is no different than mens' attraction to women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:19 PM
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Q4A: who gaslights better, women or men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:00 PM
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Well I can just flip this same thing and say “there’s many women who constantly say they hate men, hate broke men, hate men as a whole and wish to be lesbian” No, you can't just flip it because women for the most part aren't actually engaging in that behavior. Women who feel this way tend to disengage entirely from dating and men. We lack men's compulsive sexuality. It's their compulsive sexuality that makes the men who feel such a way about women still driven to seek women out and fuck. The com…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:04 PM
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I think as a general observation it's true. I do disagree with the definitions of hypergamy frequently espoused on this sub as "dating up," because as lucian already observed the exact same things could be mirrored in men's preferences but are always written off because "well men can't be hypergamous and that's that." It is very inconsistent the way it is defined and used on this sub. But if we define it as "needing to respect something about the person to have attraction or interest" then I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:54 PM
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You're not really parsing what I'm saying. I'm saying that there is something about those men that they respect. It doesn't have to be everything and it doesn't mean they like everything about them. It means there is something. By contrast, men have frequently said how stupid and boring women are and if it weren't for sex they wouldn't have anything at all to do with women. They don't have to think there's anything about women to like or respect, they just need to cum in a hole. This is somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:50 PM
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That's not inconsistent with what I said. There's something about those men that those women respect. Doesn't mean he can't have flaws Hypergamy is why there's no female equivalent of a slumpbuster
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:27 PM
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From what I can tell it means "women won't fuck someone they don't respect and men will." It has nothing to do with "dating up" the way it is used or like you observed the same claim could apply to men based on the exact same parameters. It's why a man can be uglier, poorer, etc. than the woman and she's still "hypergamous" because she respects something about him or she wouldn't be with him. Men have no such requirements to stick it in a woman. This ensures that women can be uniquely demonized …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:19 PM
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Whether it's a waste of time "for men" wasn't a point I agreed with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:49 PM
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You can repeat yourself as many times as you want, those conditions are exclusive to cold-approaching and the entire rest of your post supports that narrow context as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:19 PM
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Im not talking only about cold approaching. ..... The setting (street, public transportation, at night, etc.) can make the situation uncomfortable. Yes you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:02 PM
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Yeah cold approaching has an abysmal success rate and has never in the history of humankind been the primary or secondary way relationships have formed. Since men keep exclusively focusing on this proven poor strategy as their primary utilization of meeting women, it is really funny that you attribute its high failure rate and the downstream negative opinions women have of it as a bug instead of a feature. And then you come to the wrong conclusion that the issue is which gender cold approaches i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:42 PM
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The real issue with gender dynamics is that women are Barbie girls in a Kenough world 😔 Also <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:12 AM
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Alright guys I think I've found a solution we can all agree on Men should be drafted, but only the ones who intentionally cut or scar their eyebrows. Those motherfuckers gots ta go I saw one on Instagram a few days ago who gave himself multiple symmetrical eyebrow slits on both brows and it icked me into lifelong celibacy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:34 PM
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No rebuttal, just triggered. Got it This is done
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:23 PM
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Did you read the several sentences elaborating or did you magically suffer a stroke and go blind after that quoted statement? I never implied that men say those exact words in that exact order. I spent several words elaborating on how that is the exact sentiment they convey when they go on about burning down villages and how women have to fuck them en masse or else they get nothing out of society and have no reason to care about society. Men threaten constantly to revoke our rights or just "obse…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:21 PM
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But if a woman makes a post repeating this they will gaslight you about it and tell you you're making things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:12 PM
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I'm endlessly entertained by the situation and can't wait to see how the writers get themselves out of the dead-end (heh) they've cornered themselves into with him. We're supposed to believe he looked healthier than ever from that photo, so why can't he do a live video? Why do we have to rely on "trust me, I had a 20-minute call" with him? Why did his daughter delete all her social media accounts if he's in such good spirits and looking forward to serving his constituents again lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:29 AM
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Do you think you "deny yourself romance" with all the 21+ BMI women who allegedly show interest in you? Lmao the irony in this comment man
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:18 AM
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Female attraction variance is wild. Sometimes I can definitely understand how/why someone or something is attractive, even if I'm not personally attracted. But shit like this straight glues my clam shut. Then I read the comments and multiple women are thirsting and I'm genuinely flabbergasted
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:38 PM
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I don't have one and I never think about these people at all. It's not new, novel, revolutionary or interesting to use the male sex drive for fame and profit. IDK why this would stand out more than anything else in that niche
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:19 PM
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Because the next time they will tell you how "ungrateful you are, and men built everything" without realizing that they just admitted that men would've been incapable of building anything if they didn't have pussy. Yes!! It is so fucking funny to me how they screech at us about how useless and irrelevant women are and then turn around and loudly claim that pussy access is the entire reason the economy grows. They have zero self-awareness or maybe they just don't care cause like I said, we're not…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:12 PM
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and if he does not he does not care at all I've read too many men say exactly what I said to pay you any mind coming along and trying to convince me that it is male nature to have any interest whatsoever in the welfare of other people without pussy access. It absolutely is that they will not care at all. I've read men talk for years about how they quite literally "get nothing at all out of society" unless they are supplied with sexual access to a woman. Miss me with this dude. They will let thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:37 PM
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You're now repeating yourself a third time. Your stance is fundamentally incoherent. You can repeat it a fourth time if you like and it will never make what you said interest in casual sex itself. If I say I enjoy watching the Superbowl because of the commercials, I don't actually give a fuck about the Superbowl. I only care about the commercials. I'm not going online afterwards to watch replays of the game or halftime show, I'm going directly to the ads I enjoyed. This is just how words, defini…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:36 AM
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Are gender and sex the same again? I missed that memo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:23 AM
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I'm going to repeat your original opinions: casual sex is only fun when that possibility is there somewhere. its not interesting when you know exactly where its going. These things are completely irrelevant to what casual sex is. Casual sex is sex outside of a committed relationship. That's it. No more, no less. You have been adamant that the only thing that makes casual sex "interesting" or "fun" is the potential for an LTR. This is like claiming that you like driving when you actually only car…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:18 AM
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The argument is that it doesn't really matter what women want, the point of our existence is to placate and pacify men. Without regular widespread access to pussy (and in most cases, offspring) male nature is such that it is inherently antisocial and completely devoid of empathy for society and everyone in it. Pussy is the glue that prevents men from devolving into raging, rampaging, raping and pillaging sociopaths and instead channeling that energy into being productive members of society. Men …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:04 AM
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You are just repeating yourself. Anyone who can't think of casual sex without LTR framing isn't built for casual sex. Casual sex is about casual sex. It's in the name. It's the whole point. Casual. If you require LTR potential to be interested in casual sex then you shouldn't be having casual sex. You aren't actually someone interested in casual sex, you are someone who wants to use casual sex as a means to an end. If the only thing compelling about casual sex isn't casual sex, but the "mystery"…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:18 PM
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Why would "decent acting" be necessary? Men on this sub scream at us all the time how little they care about personality, career, hobbies, interests, or anything other than "just don't be fat." It's so funny to me how the standards change depending on what best portrays men as helpless victims
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:08 PM
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its not interesting when you know exactly where its going. Buddy if the only thing that makes sex "interesting" to someone is an LTR carrot then they are not built for casual sex I said what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:53 PM
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I don't understand what the potential of a relationship has to do with how fun sex is. Casual sex isn't about LTRs. I once again reiterate that people who can't separate the two shouldn't be having casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:35 PM
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I've heard it's more popular on the West Coast to be uncircumcised but idk. I've lived in the south and Midwest. Honestly I'm kind of curious to have sex with one now, but my motivation is pretty low. I have a pretty good thing going on rn sexually and I'm kind of loathe to take a risk on bad sex with some new dude just out of idle curiosity
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:23 PM
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I realized today I've never ever slept with an uncircumcised man. I've never even seen an uncircumcised dick in person. I believe this makes me a virgin, since my intact-count is 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:14 PM
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Yeah this is me lol, yellow flag. There's tons of political activists who get arrested and charged nowadays with complete bullshit. I'm sure the people who broke into Ridglan Farms before they agreed to release their dogs could have caught criminal charges. Dudes with low impulse control are an immediate no-go but there's definitely justified reasons to break laws sometimes IMO 🤷🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:11 PM
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If she "feels weird" about it then why would she do it? No, I don't think it's wrong to have sex outside of committed relationships lmao. I don't understand what "24 hours" has to do with anything. Would it be okay after 36 hours? 48 hours? 72 hours? What are the number of "hours" that can pass as a single person before you can go meet someone for a drink after having sex. She's probably not someone who should be having casual sex in the first place. Many such cases
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:10 PM
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You are the one who tried to make my comment about bisexuality in your very first reply here. This is done.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:33 AM
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That's fine, you can disagree all you want. I'm not talking about bisexual men. Nothing in my comment/question was about bisexual men. This post isn't about bisexual men. If you have anything on-topic to say, I will engage again at my discretion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:10 AM
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There's no such thing as being "demerited for love." Most people aren't compatible with or attracted to most other people for one reason or another. This is the default state of all human beings. Bisexuality remains irrelevant to n-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:56 AM
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Sticky toffee pudding 🔥
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:29 AM
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That's a name I never expected to see on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:12 AM
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I never said anything about marriage Answering this was completely optional Sexual orientation is completely different than partner count
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:02 AM
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Blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah 🙄🙄 Blah blah? Blah blah blah blah Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:13 AM
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Preferences that men can easily change or control, and preferences that include or qualify the majority of men Anything else makes women delusional, unfair, shallow, and/or "too picky"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:23 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:20 AM
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Woman jokes about life on easy mode 🥹
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:09 PM
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It's so weird to see the abrupt about-face done when it comes to "value." Men have spent years on this sub loudly screaming about how pussy is a need, burning down villages to feel warmth, have no reason to care about society without pussy access, have no reason to bathe or work a job without pussy access, the entire world's economic output depends on pussy access, LDAR cause no pussy, what's the point of life without a wife and kids, cash pussy drives everything around us Then will try to finge…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:49 PM
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What if it damages your ability to pair bond? Or increases your odds of divorce? 🥺👉👈
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:00 PM
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Q4M: Let's assume the following conditions: you're single you're not religious/waiting for marriage you're in your 20s/30s you have access to hot women for casual sex Would you refrain just because it might make some hypothetical future partner jealous or insecure or mad?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:57 PM
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These days, they apparently are. That's not how the concept of time works, as I literally just pointed out. Your data is a snapshot from over a decade ago. My data was most recent as of last year, and covers lifetime prevalence. That didn't just magically cut off in 1999, and you have nothing to support your hamstering that "this century" flipped some kind of statistical switch and made rape equal magically starting exactly in the year 2000. My data is clearly better and more accurate than yours…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:00 AM
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Thank you for that information about 1-2 years in 2012-2013. Now here is government information about lifetime prevalence from 2025. Men are not raped as much as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:52 AM
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Thank you for that unsourced information and speculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:45 AM
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I am positive prison rapes included, females are still raped many times over more than males,
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:21 AM
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I know it's probably a lost cause, but I'll ask anyway: what is your proof that men are the majority of rape victims?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:58 AM
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Single moms 🚫
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:39 PM
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Maybe she can consider it volunteer experience that will look good on her college application
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:13 PM
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Gotcha. I also have a strong preference for dark-haired men but some blond guys are definitely attractive. My first boyfriend was blond and I had the biggest crush on him. I don't associate blondness with youth, I think it's just part of an overall phenotype I'm less drawn towards. But when you're hot, you're hot regardless of hair color 🤷🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:33 PM
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Why would women "take a chance" on men just to be screamed at to "choose better" when it ends poorly?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:07 PM
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Like we needed more reasons to ban men from the medical field 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:53 PM
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He got banned <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:56 PM
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Blond men not only a minority but are a subset of a subset, it wouldn't make sense to expect a high number of all women to "actively prefer" them. They're not as cooked as redheaded men so idk why this is anything to cry over.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:52 PM
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I never say it. I think it very often. There honestly is no point saying it. It's probably the most misogynistic opinion I hold but women alive today see what exists and what the worst outcomes are and still choose to gamble because love and babies. There is no fixing that and there is no changing that. It's similar to how I think the male sex drive is a fundamental weakness in men instead of the strength they constantly present it as. Some women are cursed with desires that tie them to their bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:37 PM
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This is one of the most persistent mischaracterizations on this sub and this point I believe it has to be male projection. Men think about their relationships in these terms, so they insist women do as well. This is why they think they "earn" sex or such things are "rewards" and consciously thought of as such. "Gain enough XP and unlock this level gf!" It also ties in with the concepts of "fairness" and "matching" they're obsessed with in dating and sex. A woman thinking she's "too good" for him…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:15 PM
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It's not really "highly debatable," it is a man who relocates for the primary objective of pussy access. Period. Your attempts to pretend like it's some completely undefinable unknowable indiscernible vague concept that can mean anything you want it to just so your argument works won't work on me. Words have meaning. Without it debate or any communication is pointless. It is not "having casual sex on vacation." Which, for the final time, is why your original reply to me was off-topic. I don't ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:42 PM
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it is in fact a point you have made. You didn't talk explicitly about moving countries for the express purpose of pussy access. It would do you well if you are to engage with me to understand context. The context of comment was passport bros. Your reply to me was "I've fucked women in Western Europe so you're wrong 😜🤪" Your first reply was a non-sequitur and every reply since has doggedly remained off-topic and irrelevant. Matterfact: your argument is centered around men having bad intentions. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:34 AM
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RealOnes™ insist it's different from sex tourism. Either way fucking on vacation isn't it, PPB is literally relocating countries for the primary purpose of pussy access. Whether you want to include short-term or not. It isn't a visit, it's moving. the point about western europe is that some guys can get women who have 'true choice' and still prefer dating someone from SEA or LATAM for example. This is addressing an argument or point I never made. It's not some sort of surprise to me that a man w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:39 AM
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IDGAF who you stick your dick in dude 🥴 "western Europe" isn't a PPB destination anyway, and we both know it. Y'all ain't traveling to fucking Italy to find submissive bangmaids lmao PPB is a specific thing with a specific context, it's not just going somewhere on vacation and hooking up
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:10 AM
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The tools thing is tricky, it's so specific and there are so many. Hard to know what he does and doesn't have. I usually would keep a note somewhere of random things he geeks out over throughout the year, even if it's just once, and get it for the next worthy occasion. Can you remember what's the last thing he mentioned like that? Also not sure of your budget but a nice 3D printer could be a game changer. But those are definitely $$$
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:49 AM
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Men are the ones obsessed with "exotic" partners. Women tend to be way more culturally insular, and this is also aligned with with "preselection." It doesn't make sense for men to simultaneously argue that women are such a hivemind and so conformist and yet so desirous of random foreign men whose families they can't even meet and whose backgrounds they can't even verify. And if this was the case, then this "celebration of exotic men" shouldn't be isolated to poorer, less feminist countries. Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:50 PM
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Why are these men only ever "celebrated" in poor countries with lower gender equality? If this was a matter of "quality of life," they studiously avoid the countries that rate the best for this. Isn't that curious?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:35 PM
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I'm not telling anyone to do anything. I'm arguing with the central premise of the post that these men find "genuine desire," because they never go anywhere with the circumstances conducive to it and that is by design. They need "leverage" to be desired. That's not "genuine desire." Nothing I said was about race.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:49 PM
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Money is Beta Bucking. That's not genuine desire. Hobosexuals exist. They don't need money and they don't need a passport. They need to have looks and be fun. PPB have made it abundantly clear they don't mind having to pay for women. Their issue is one of value. They don't like the "exchange rate" of western women, because the value of their money is deflated by female economic independence. Not sure why OP is trying to pretend like this is about "genuine desire," we're not sending our best.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:05 PM
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Genuine desire is chosen freely. It derives from true choice. These men never go to countries where that exists, because with true choice they would be unchosen. They are not desirable enough for the women they want without leverage, which genuinely attractive men don't need.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:59 PM
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... It's so odd how the only people I ever see bringing up these people are men, to tell us how much women can't stop talking or thinking about these women ... Not really. Women aren't really dialed in to porn like that <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:48 PM
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Not really. Women aren't really dialed in to porn like that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:09 PM
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It's so odd how the only people I ever see bringing up these people are men, to tell us how much women can't stop talking or thinking about these women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:00 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:56 PM
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Short torso, arms + long legs looks goofy af. Being taller is more than just "femur length," your entire proportions and frame usually scale accordingly Many BBLs also look fucking ridiculous for the same reasons. Sometimes breast implants too if they're on a very thin, low body fat frame
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:12 PM
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You can't coherently engage the rebuttal, got it 👍🏾 I think I forgot you were on my ignore list? Makes sense this was a waste of time, won't catch me slipping again 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:09 AM
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Dude we truly don't care, it is male-brained to constantly be comparing your "treatment" and "adjusting your standards" based on other people instead of what you internally want. It's why each and every one of men's attempts to "translate" their feels into a way they think women will agree with will invariably fall flat. You've been here long enough to see post after post after post of these silly attempts - "well what if a man took his ex to Europe?? Well what if a man took his ex to ~fancy res…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:03 AM
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Using your logic women shouldn’t be upset when they don’t “qualify” for anything more than the streets. ... you really think you did something there lmao Comparing things to celebrities is silly bruh Yes yes, objection because it's devastating to your case. It's not an invalid point just because it rebuts the claim and you don't like that. The fact remains that men are incorrigibly, pants-on-head fucking stupid if they look at how people who are far more sexually appealing than they are are bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:28 AM
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These are the delusional standards my social media is now giving me 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:18 AM
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I'm very surprised Arby's isn't on this list. I find their operations super sus
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:54 AM
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This is a bunch of deflecting rhetoric and irrelevant non-sequiturs designed to avoid having to concede that men are indeed irrational and delusional, just like the very women they angrily sputter about. I'll take the W, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:29 AM
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Why do they expect what they don't qualify for? I thought men are logical. Is it reasonable for me to be mad I don't get swag bags and free merch from luxury companies like celebrities do? Should I "expect" treatment that different people get despite the very noticeable, observable differences between us? It would just be goofy - right? If men don't have the charisma, social skills, low neuroticism, and/or looks of those guys then I don't understand why they would "set a standard" of getting wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:33 AM
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No, I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:02 AM
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It's the men on this sub constantly crashing out about not having everything explicitly enumerated all the time and raging about indirect communication and having to care about body language. To steal from GridRexx: Female-brained = easily grokking obvious context and subtext Male-brained = linear automaton who 404 errors if things aren’t spelled out to him like a toddler I've always felt like dudes who flock to The Red Pill are sheep-like weak critical thinkers who need a play-by-play book for …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:58 PM
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Ok but like Female sexuality is wrong and bad cause male sexuality default ??? So women should have the flexible low standards of men but with the discernment of women but with the sexual eagerness and libido of men but also not fuck attractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:13 PM
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Like I said, the sum of the whole matters more than trying to perfect and autistically obsess over every little part. The point of my comment is that the neuroticism about individual features is a horrible way to judge your overall sexual appeal to women. ::ETA:: so-called "aesthetic perfection" and sexual attraction do not neatly map 1-to-1. "Perfection" is boring and uncanny valley. Part of beauty, and part of sexual attraction is the humanity, the unique details that are harmoniously appealin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:37 PM
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Chet Hanks is a great example about how looksmaxxing "aesthetic perfection" is way too neurotic and divorced from reality. He's bald and has those big ol negative canthal upper eyelid exposure "prey eyes" and has women positively dripping for him, because it's about the sum of the whole and not just having a bunch of "perfect parts." Overall he presents an attractive masculine aesthetic and strongly appeals to certain types.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:12 PM
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Beagles are used in animal testing because of their loyal, friendly, sweet and affable nature. As a reward for being such good boys and good girls, they are tortured and killed ☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:47 PM
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I think it's interesting how much short women are demonized, like we make tall men pair up with us. Men usually approach women. If there's a short woman/tall man couple, odds are extremely high that the man made the first move. And height is just sexually attractive regardless of one's own height due to sexual dimorphism. Yet... most of the replies to you are, to one degree or another, shaming short women for being sexually attracted to tall men just like every other woman is. They're literally …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:04 AM
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Who determines for any man or woman "where they stand?" Vague unprovable, unchallengeable, undefinable parameters of models that can't actually translate to an individual level. You can't get this like a credit rating, yet it will still somehow be used to tell you that you are delusional. We've already determined that "who you can get" means absolutely nothing, because "irrational markets." Markets are irrational because of "pairing rates" (of which there is an unknown "ideal"), and people are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:20 AM
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That's the fucking strawman. I don't make policy. Never said you did, anywhere. All I've done is argue your claims, and the evidence (or lack thereof) they are based on I don't have to make some decision right now based on imperfect information. I just have an academic-style interest. I've never asked you anywhere to "make decisions." This posturing outrage is just deflection and strawmanning to avoid directly engaging with the fact I've called your hamstering bullshit out with receipts. You don…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:28 PM
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What would them being "cognizant of the injury they have suffered" look like in reality, exactly Or is this one of those circular reasoning arguments, where any bald man who hasn't gone crazy and killed himself is de facto "not aware of the injury he's suffered," and any man who has gone crazy and killed himself because he's bald is based and red-pilled about his reality
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:42 PM
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Oh definitely. Balding men are constantly going crazy and dying because of their baldness and literally nothing else. That's why it's been going on for 300,000 years Nothing but pure facts and logic to see here, folks
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:29 PM
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Don't really think there's any common ground between us. Have a good one!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:34 PM
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This entire comment is a complete non-sequitur to what it is replying to. In addition: you can't possibly know you were "ghosted" because you didn't immediately give them dick 🙄 holy ego Batman. This is where Occam's Razor led you? Not no chemistry, not incompatibility... but every time you were "ghosted" it was always because you didn't immediately try to fuck them?? Is that what they directly told you, in their own words? I can't, nor do I have any desire to engage with your personal life, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:19 PM
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1) I'm positive you have zero stats for your claim. 2) People looking for LTRs on a dating app are not going to waste their time with any men who are looking to hookup but are maybe possibly interested in commitment on the off chance he finds her worthy enough. It's a waste of their time This will only be considered by women who are only open to short-term (very rare and can be very picky), or women who are also "short-term, open to long-term" (essentially the same parameters applicable)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:58 PM
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Short term, open to long? Dude isn't good looking enough or compelling enough for the age range of the market he's in, he's 26 in one of the biggest cities in the country. Any woman interested in LTR is going to write him off and any woman interested in STR has hundreds of better options just on her block in NYC. He's a small fish in a big pond, even with NYC's favorable gender skew. Be interested to see the women he was swiping on and liking but he didn't show that. He could have censored their…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:20 PM
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People, both male and female, can be insecure and triggered by the preferences they see others express. If they see traits they possess be reflected in someone else's preferences as undesirable, they may feel personally attacked regardless of how the sentiment was conveyed. OTOH, there's absolutely a number of people who go out of their way to be belittling and insulting when they express their preferences, or prefer to express their preferences by attacking those who don't fit them instead of f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:06 PM
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Bob, still curious to know where exactly the ​insane strawman is. Inte​resting that you continue to repeat ​exactly what I said while trying to claim I've unfairly misrepresented your positions. In your reply above, you hem and haw about "it isn't clear what's going on now." Above is about "possibilities," not certainties. And yet in the linked comment, we remove all such ambiguity: It is true that many women are deluded about their own mate value or what they can land. I thought what was going …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:43 PM
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Sometimes, there are posts that are clearly made trying to ham-fistedly tie a viral moment to a completely unrelated long-standing personal grievance, and in doing so requires an absurd number of non-sequiturs; leaps in logic; and contorted reasoning. This is one of those posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:56 AM
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Amazing how they had all that free time to pursue their passions I wonder if those two things are related 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:08 AM
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Eh, I don't disagree he'd look better (I think handsome is a bit of a stretch) but I disagree that that's a matter of coloring alone. That's kind of changing the context. Albino POC don't look weird because of their coloring, they look weird because their coloring is incongruent with their features. OTOH Tom Holland isn't considered ugly just because he has brown hair and brown eyes. Would him being blond/blue really make a difference in his popularity?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:34 AM
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A lot of us been known this. It's just the JBW halo doing its thang. How the features look all put together has always mattered more to looks than coloring.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:22 PM
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I'm on the left but I'm black and I don't trust a hell of whole lot of people on my side of the aisle like Planter. None of this is shocking nor proves anything. Say it louder for the people in the back. He's always been a right fucking narcissist asshole, even staying in the race despite his wife's disclosure about him cheating at the beginning of his marriage. But he thought he was better than everyone else (typical for certain people from certain backgrounds) and his massive ego wouldn't let …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:38 PM
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Yeah I've heard about your models, and I've consistently read you speak with absolute confidence the most absurd things about how female attraction works. As a man. You will give lip service to the idea of being wrong or the idea that "there's not enough data to know" or "the science is still out" or "the information is murky," and then turn around and repeatedly make absolute claims about how women work and why and how women are wrong. You say "everything I've written is an insane strawman," an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:04 AM
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You can't convince these dudes that money isn't literally arousing to women. I've long stopped trying. I guess we'd all be flicking our beans to banks and gold bar porn would exist if money was sexually attractive, and yet... not really a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:20 AM
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No no no, you see at the airport when they check for ID and passports they also ask "did you get women's approval for this, sir?? 🤨" And if no then no flight for you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:03 PM
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His angle has pretty consistently been women are delusional but it's pointless to yell at us individually. Instead, women need to agree with men that women are responsible for pairing up with men, fucking them enthusiastically and having multiple kids because otherwise men will be violent agents of chaos and society will fall into ruin. Apparently the biggest factor preventing all of this from meshing the way it needs to is women being delusional via a variety of causes. Social media making us "…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:53 PM
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Being a soap opera writer must be so much fucking fun. Imagine being able to write campy fanfiction into reality with a multi-million dollar budget
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:44 PM
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Once again, there's no objective, official "percentiles" anywhere, it's just men's feelz that who they think ought to be attracted to them isn't, according to their own feelings of their own attractiveness. Because men with their male sexuality get to be the official arbitrators of female arousal. And women disagreeing with mens' opinions of their own attractiveness means women are delusional. Because men get to determine their own league and womens', and womens' opinions only count if they agre…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:31 PM
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Hip dips have never stopped a dick from getting hard, and we all know it This obviously manufactured, inorganic negging attempt just makes men look sassy and childish. Like most complaints on this sub I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:53 AM
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I remember a photo of your face with your arms raised bent backwards. Your elbows were showing. You were clearly fit and attractive. You're hot. Don't get surgery, get therapy. I've also had body dysmorphia so I know the words of a stranger aren't going to change what you feel when you look in the mirror but please know getting surgery or getting gaunt would nerf your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:09 AM
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Boyo I'm legit confused cause I'm pretty sure you've posted a photo of yourself here before and you're legit hot. Where is this all coming from?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:03 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:57 AM
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So my aunt is kind of a passport sis and it's so fucking funny to me. She's remarried to a Pakistani man and they've been married like 15 years now. I'm pretty sure they've never once had sex. She has children (all grown) from her first marriage and he has children from his ex-wife I assume, who all still live in Pakistan. One of her kids is super failure to launched and repeatedly boomerangs back to live with her. He hates all her children and has long been trying to get his children here to mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:17 AM
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It's the rampant insecurity that manifests itself in a number of undesirable traits - paranoia, controlling behavior, sexual shittests, etc. They feel, with varying degrees of accuracy, that they don't have any inherently desirable traits but they still have male biology that screams at them to cum in holes. So women need to be berated and shamed into relationships with them but just as importantly - prevented from leaving
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:23 PM
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There are other male mods who are active, I assure you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:17 PM
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There are multiple male mods 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:53 PM
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Male thirst is due to male biology. From that all else follows Unattractive, poorly socialized/ND men can't just show up on a campus dick in hand and expect to land a partner because of gender ratios. Female biology means below a certain standard of overall attractiveness, they will just stay single instead of laying under some dude. The idea that "the market" can change in a way based on ratios that will make most men highly sought-after is a fantasy ::edit:: replying to u/Particular_Trade6308 …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:00 PM
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Please describe the appropriate amount of effort you'd find appropriate for an average woman to expect from a man while dating. So far, we've established that it's unreasonable for an average woman to expect: a man to plan a date effort to be put into planning the date And.... dassit And that all, somehow according to your thesis, is because these average women don't understand they're not worth that level of effort. So what should the average woman expect in exchange for the bare minimum of bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:01 AM
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Counterpoint: that sweet, sweet PPD street cred 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:39 AM
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Shh, let him cook. Nothing bad comes out of admitting you've committed crimes online
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:31 AM
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Part of choosing better 🤷🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:46 PM
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I don't think what she said and what I said are mutually exclusive, I think they are aligned. I'm someone like she originally described 🤷🏿 and still a man's sexual imperatives don't mean anything to me. I wouldn't date someone I'd hook up with. A man throwing a bitchfit about that and him needing validation from me from hooking up doesn't change my feelings. But I have experienced and observed men being very bitchy about that, multiple times. Because to the men on this sub (who, according to las…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:37 PM
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They have "casual use only" and "LTR" categories regardless, which is functionally the exact same thing. Their reproductive strategies will never align 1-to-1 with women's because men and women are different. So this response isn't really a gotcha unless you expect women and men to be the same, it's like a woman telling you "well a woman would allow both the LTR and hookup guy to take her out to dinner." That's great but that's not what either gender values. Men can find a lot of women who will …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:09 PM
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And then they have the nerve to continuously feign righteous indignation and sputter about "wHy Is MaLe SeXuAlItY dEmOnIzEd" lmao. It's goofy af
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:02 PM
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They never have any fucking clue. It's so predictable
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:32 AM
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"Don't ask the fish, ask the fisherman" - women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:31 AM
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Hi, I'm a childless single 44-year-old man. I work at a grocery store and enjoy UFC fights and cuck porn. Here's my thousand-word rant about mandatory paternity testing and prenups
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:28 PM
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What, exactly, do you think the options available are for an 8-month pregnancy dude
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:52 PM
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Fake?? 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:46 PM
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the one on the left is age restricted and im not signing in to watch it. so Shame, she's pretty badass
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:28 PM
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Q4M: who would you rather take on in a dark dead-end alleyway Her or her?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:23 PM
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There's no uniform number of times per day to feed your dog just like there's no uniform number of times per day humans eat. I have friends who feed dry food 2x a day. I have friends who keep dry food freely fed and feed wet food once a day. I used to feed my dog twice a day but she stopped eating both meals so now I just do dry/wet food combo once a day. Depends on your dog's needs, breed, and activity level. And also I guess your schedule
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:00 PM
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You get me! It's nice to have the backup but at the same time I'm like "but you're baby 🥺" lol he's 36
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:26 AM
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Fair enough lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:25 AM
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Sounds like your parents did a great job!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:35 AM
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Lol well I think probably most sisters are shorter than brothers no matter what the birth order! But even so, it doesn't seem to affect my own feelings of protectiveness. Like I know he's taller/stronger but I'm still going to get involved if he's in trouble, wouldn't even think twice about it. His fights are my fights 🤷🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:34 AM
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Interesting. I would think the age gap would probably be a significant factor too, but it's interesting that even the brother 3 years younger never exhibited protective traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:24 AM
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Its also logic, just imagine following scenario. 58 Balding dude goes up to a LA Baddie with 15k Followers. There is not enough Words in the dictionairy that can make him pull her. Is that not what the "average EE/Balkans couple" meme pokes fun at??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:20 PM
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Great, so I guess all the complaints from men about how "no one ever told them" blah blah blah were all just in my head. It turns out men have always been just as perceptive and socially aware as women! Shut er down boys, we've finally solved gender
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:20 PM
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Hi, I was born on the small island of Menarajpakurabukistan, and have lived here my entire life. Here is my poorly written diatribe about how hookup culture has ruined women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:26 PM
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Q4W with younger male siblings: do your brothers take on a protective/chivalrous role towards you? I'm recently realizing that my younger brother does and it's very interesting to me. As the older sibling, I feel very protective of him. I wonder how much or how little my age makes when it comes to his feelings about me. I guess younger brothers with older sisters can chime in too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:19 PM
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Is this the response to "having a boyfriend is embarrassing?" Cause if so... bold strategy Cotton
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:54 PM
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The scope of the discussion is not about who built society or some macro assessment of who deserves credit for anything. Do you know how a debate works? The scope of my rebuttal is about those things If you can't put two and two together then IDK what to tell you dude According to men these discussions are actually very relevant. Your title says that it isn't. In case you've forgotten: For the most part, the idea of "unpaid domestic labor" either doesn't exist or isn't relevant It most certainly…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:51 PM
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The fact that men sit on the sub every single day and posture about how "men built society" and "men keep society running" proves this argument a bald-faced lie It's extremely relevant that the only labor that ever counts or is considered meaningful, important, and productive is the labor that men do for cash paper money
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:15 PM
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Seems like the most desirable men would fuck other mens slut wives. I have no idea how we got here. All I said was that people who like to fuck usually end up with other people who like to fuck. That has nothing to do with "fucking other mens' wives." I am just sadden and depressed by the women making porn and being such extreme sluts. I have options but the state of women makes me sad and depressed. "nOt An N-cOuNt PoSt" - yeah, we all knew that was trash. It's weird for your entire mental stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:26 PM
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"Being into" a romantic partner almost invariably includes sexual attraction by default. It's very strange to try to pretend otherwise dude If a dude on here said he wanted a partner who was "really into" him, there is no one who is going to interpret that as being completely devoid of sexual attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:21 AM
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Lmao disingenuous af
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:07 AM
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The context of this specific exchange is specifically about "being into" these men as a woman <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:57 AM
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If you were a woman, you wouldn't be sexually attracted to someone you had to train like a child or a dog. That's just male solipsism lmao In real life you'd find it just as undesirable and icky as women already do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:19 AM
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Men: wahhhh muh unconditional love 😠😠 y no unconditional love you heartless cunts Also men: why don't you want to change yourself for men?? 🥺🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:58 AM
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It doesn't change nature. Gonna put you down for the "current gen" can only learn from other equally (in)experienced men - in which case "evo psych" concepts are completely irrelevant Young men who have only been adults for three years stay claiming that a world they never even lived through was so insurmountably, radically different than what exists today. Which really just highlights their lack of life experience lmao But you can't tell them shit. That's okay, we all know it all when we're you…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:51 AM
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I didn't say the feminism didn't exist, just that there was less. So there's quantifiably "more feminism" now than when? And how are you measuring that, exactly? Finally, how is this "feminism delta" changing female nature and making inexperienced men who have been adults for three years experts on women? There wasn't creepshaming or MeToo. That's not "feminism." Women talking about their experiences with sexual harassment isn't "feminism" lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:25 AM
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Feminism happened decades ago, men can't keep using that as an excuse lmao. Women have been prominently going to college and working full time for over 50 years now Dating apps also don't change female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:19 AM
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Nature is nature, it doesn't "manifest differently" across decades Dogs don't act any differently now than they did in 2000 lmao 🐹🐹🐹
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:12 AM
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Market has nothing to do with nature. You can't have it both ways. Either the "current gen" can only learn from other equally (in)experienced men - in which case "evo psych" concepts are completely irrelevant; or "evo psych" concepts about "female nature" are correct - in which case the "generation" is completely irrelevant, because "female nature" doesn't change within a generation or three
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:22 AM
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Female nature is always female nature, until I guess a new gen of females are made 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:17 AM
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Hi guys, I was born in 2005. Now let me teach you what I've learned about women 😌
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:06 AM
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Incorrect. Uh huh Maybe it was unstated. But I am questioning female sexuality within the typical framework of female sexuality. I'm not just talking about your OP, I'm talking about your comments and replies to the answers. This is where your male solipsism becomes glaringly evident. Once again, this statement: Imagine how crazy you would go if you, an attractive woman, just slept with which ever men you wanted. It would be a smorgasbord of experiences Goes far beyond "just questioning female s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:55 PM
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You are continuously, throughout this post, projecting male sexuality onto women. For most women it's not enough to just find someone sexually attractive to want to have sex with them. It's not just "taboos" or "fear of judgement" "holding us back," it's the fact that we aren't oriented to pursue sex in the first place. You are pretending like women are naturally inclined to fuck every attractive man she could ever imagine because that's how your male sexuality works. I'm a giant slut and even I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:32 PM
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Live footage of me pair bonding with a man <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:22 PM
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Lmao abso-fucking-lutely not 😭🤣 Delulu as hell man, but thanks for the laugh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:31 PM
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Let's say he's tall. Who would be the female looksmatch for a tall, fat, ugly dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:12 PM
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Are the bluepillers in the room with us
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:53 PM
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No no, we go back to 666 next week. This week women get wet for toxic guys 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:49 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:35 PM
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I completely agree and I think this is also related to the wider conversations men repeatedly start on this sub about having leverage and unconditional love. They are obsessed with this relationship ideal of having a slavishly devoted submissive woman who only has eyes for them and is obsessed with them and wants to sexually do everything to them and with them and have no boundaries. They also seem to really take boundaries very personally, regardless of the reasoning or area. I think also they …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:32 PM
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This is what Chad wants now <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:09 PM
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It's over for instruments with hip dips 😞 <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:02 PM
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Best I can offer you is paternity testing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 01:41 AM
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How almost every woman with fillers looks to me <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:02 PM
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"No, but actually yes" ahh response
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:08 PM
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Acknowledging what? The existence or lack thereof of free will?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:07 PM
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Then it's basically a pointlessly gendered question and becomes a matter of "do you believe in free will or not." I don't understand the point of these thought exercises. It seems like we're supposed to go "oh wow, if I was a guy I'd struggle more in these specific areas you guys complain about" but that doesn't change the motivations for how we currently operate as women now. Like cold-approaching isn't any less annoying or potentially scary as a small woman on the receiving end just because in…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:06 PM
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The fact that the orgasm gap persists well beyond initial encounters makes this theory DOA and not really worthy of serious consideration. I don't think women multi-year LTRs aren't cumming as much as their male partners because they're so anxious and self-conscious around their LTR partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:45 PM
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At any rate, yes, the orgasm gap is evidence. As are the experiences of women. But There's always a pesky but though, isn't there? a serious discussion has to put things into context. Lesbian and hetero sex is very different. You're not a woman, straight or otherwise. So what can you speak on this topic with such confidence? Women tend to be more anxious and self-conscious in hetero sex. 🫩 On average, most women would not be happy with a male sexual partner who just went down on them or used toy…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:02 AM
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... The orgasm gap discussion is full of bullshit. This includes the assertion that the gap is obviously the result of men caring about their partner's pleasure less or having less sexual skill than women. It also includes the very wrongheaded comparison to lesbian orgasm rates. This is a paragraph that - to native English speakers - is calling everything italicized "bullshit." This is a comment unequivocally declarating zero culpability on behalf of men, despite what direct implications the dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:27 AM
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Your previous comment allowed zero nuance for even the remote possibility of male sexual selfishness. Despite zero actual evidence, you adamantly believe in the manosphere framework of singledom rates being caused by "female league delusion." Yet here we have actual hard evidence, buoyed by an abundance of anecdata from women but that's still not enough for you to remotely seriously consider the legitimacy of female complaints about male sexual selfishness. Broad sympathy for some, broad skeptic…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:15 AM
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Care to elaborate, or just adamantly insist straight men have zero responsibility here anywhere despite all available evidence to the contrary
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:04 AM
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Always nice to meet fans of my work 🙂‍↕️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:58 PM
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Once again, "implications" you pulled from your ass based on things I never said don't actually qualify for "engagement." I have no reason to "engage" with fiction you attribute to me This is done
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:45 PM
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Are we advocating for Gonna go ahead and stop you right here mate. There was no "advocating" in my comment. So I already know whatever follows is going to be some nonsense you made up
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:42 PM
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It will never cease to amuse me how many posts are made that are essentially resentment, hostility, jealousy, and bitterness towards women because of your own sex drive. It's not women's fault that your dicks rule everything. The locus of control is with y'all, homies. These posts should be like fortune cookies, except instead of adding "in bed" to the end, it should be "because of my own sex drive." "Women will never be truly alone!! (... because of my own sex drive)" "Women get away with bad b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:05 PM
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Remember when bait used to be believable
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:48 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:49 AM
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Thank ya 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:42 AM
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Indeed, I was the evil old woman
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:37 AM
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Then you all get angry when we make jokes about women Remember our delightful exchange yesterday? When you wistfully expressed a desire for short women to be attracted to short men and I said short women aren't lesbians? That shit was funny as hell, you were triggered for hours
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:14 AM
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Allllll mine baby. Paid $20 for four tickets Oh you mean everything at the raffle? No lol, this was like one of five prizes <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:09 AM
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The greed they talk about in the Bible 😑 <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:16 AM
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Won this at a shelter raffle today, including the bed 🙂‍↕️ <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:15 AM
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My mom can't get over how ugly he is lmao She's seriously triggered every time she has to see him on TV. I've recommended she just stick to Netflix for the next month He is soooo busted though holy fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:10 AM
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Amazing how just 24 hours ago we were all ignoring men. Now we can't stop mocking them and "celebrating their loneliness" I guess this sub really is changing hearts and minds
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:42 AM
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It really did lmao, everything old is new again. They started off with thigh gaps 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:43 AM
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I think there can be multiple kinds of hot voices, like looks. I agree he is kind of in the same vein as the translator though. I also think my ex has a hot voice and he sounds completely different. Much deeper but kind of with a Liverpool bent for some reason even though he's not remotely English lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:09 AM
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I agree. I think many, if not most women are delusional about the baseline sexual satisfaction of men. I had no problems keeping up in my LTRs, but I'm also not the typical women sociosexually. I also think most women severely underestimate the regulatory effect sex has on a man's overall mood and disposition. A well-fucked man is generally more agreeble and frictionless than a man whose sexual needs are going unmet and thus is walking around with a body screaming at him to cum in a pussy. Women…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:01 AM
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I like his voice 🤷🏿 saw that I wasn't alone lol <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:51 PM
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I really am no better than a man 😩 10 seconds in I was like "damn you have a hot ass voice" and lo and behold I am not alone in my thoughts
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:43 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:41 AM
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Don't you worry your pretty little head about it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:29 AM
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"Man, I wish I could have a newborn without all that pesky 'trying for a baby' creampieing" - said no straight man ever
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:28 AM
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Maybe you should learn what "like" means
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:13 AM
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🤣😭 not le filthy black pillar Idk man you're the one sending me like half a dozen comments at once, so maybe you tell me why
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:10 AM
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Lmao you have no better responses than spamming me with comments about how women will have our rights taken away 🥴😛 Lazy, unoriginal, and uninspired. Wake me up when you have something innovative to threaten
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:06 AM
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Unless a man wants to rape, what tempers his standards are female autonomy. As we can clearly see by looking at the casual and even committed relationships of gay men, along with the persistent use of porn by men even in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:41 AM
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Men's desire for NSA sex has nothing to do with observing other men being able to have it. It's biological, not something that they learn from observation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:28 AM
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"Women are the ones who need to change" - Red-pill, colorized, circa 2026
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:15 AM
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It's completely irrational to expect, much less actively demand other people not behave in ways they want to behave in because some people want what they have. Should I not eat because others are starving? Okay, I can go hungry too. What has actually been accomplished here? What has it helped to have two hungry people instead of just one? The entitlement is insane. I have no idea why I wouldn't do something I want just because some other dude is pissy he can't do it too. Literally nothing in lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:45 AM
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Did you read the comment? He said it'd be cool. Why short women in particular? Are you his alt or something? Everyone except short women believe this is the natural order of thing No one is holding guns to men who are average height and tall men that forces them to date short women. In order for short women to have relationships with these men, those men must also agree to it right? So why the one-sided demonization of short women like men don't have agency all the sudden to not have relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:26 PM
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No, logic says it's normal for you to not be attracted to short men because it's part of sexual dimorphism. But you implied short men are women, Did you read the comment I replied to? Why would a woman being short mean she'd love short men? Inherent in this entitled attitude is the idea that short women should be less attracted to masculinity, or be less heterosexual. It's retarded Being sexually attracted to masculinity, including physical indicators of it, has no reason to have anything to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:09 PM
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My logic is aligned with sexual dimorphism You had no logic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:01 PM
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"sexual dimorphism is pedophilia" ☝️🤓
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:58 PM
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Honestly she probably has traction alopecia more than genetic balding. She wouldn't need to do anything extreme like a transplant, she just needs to stop wearing tight ponytails and leave her edges tf alone
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:29 PM
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Just because we're short doesn't mean we're lesbians
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:45 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:25 AM
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My post is talking about women who shame things based on gender. You made a specific point conflating casual sex with paying for sex. You are now attempting to be disingenuous about this when it's the central premise of your OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:48 PM
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So I never said "one is worse than the other bEcAuSe It'S dIfFeReNt" All I said was there's no contradiction because they're not the same You can't call someone "hypocritical" for judging different things differently. That makes about as much sense as saying I, a vegan, am being "hypocritical" for judging eating meat and dairy but not fruits and vegetables 🥴
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:34 PM
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There is no hypocrisy. Having sex with someone based on mutual desire is not the same as having sex with someone for money. It's not contradictory as such to judge one but not the other
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:24 PM
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Who is "we?" No one is preventing men from expressing this and it's not esoteric knowledge that there are men whose only interest in women is for sex. The female distaste for this isn't going to go away regardless, which appears to be what you actually want. That's just going to need to be something you get over
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:21 PM
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🫩 Men on this sub regularly state that if it weren't for sex, they wouldn't interact with women at all because we're dumb, boring, and shallow No "gaslighting" from us necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:17 PM
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Social media has made no one more delusional than unsocialized men who think they can now be experts on the lives of women and socially adjusted men from the comfort of their basements
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:56 PM
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u/grow_peace_in_bedlam, you ever listen to VSQ cover NIN?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:29 PM
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Red-pill claims to be based on comparing notes, pattern recognition, etc. Yet here a red-pilled man wants to deny the legitimacy of observing patterns about men. Women apparently should pretend like they've never heard or read anything about a man before, much less had personal experiences with them each and every time they interact with a man. Of course, that would make it impossible to "choose better" considering we're I guess supposed to Men In Black zap ourselves back to blank slatism every …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:06 AM
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I'm not watching HOTD, shit I didn't even finish GoT but I am thoroughly enjoying the Sheepstealer memes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:32 PM
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No, I don't watch any sports
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:12 PM
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I don't need help having empathy, and I don't need empathy to understand. Either way it's definitely not a way I want to spend my free time
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:56 PM
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Eh, I guess I see what you're saying. I never visited FDS but I guess I'd agree that it made more sense as a gender-flipped RP than RPW. I just don't understand needing to reinvent the wheel, "traditionalism"/conservatism already espouses the exact same things. What extra value is there in the rebranding? If it's clout then sure, big fish in a small pond but who is the target demographic for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:53 PM
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No, I'm good. It's definitely not an interest of mine to read more of what I remarked upon in my OC??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:42 PM
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What "clout?" I just expected it to be analogous to RPM in the sense of "evo-psych" based parameters to work in one's own self-interests. But it really just seemed to be about simping for men while ignoring one's own needs, which is really pathetic. Doing whatever men want has never in human history been a proven, effective way for women to have happy, fulfilling relationships. "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" though has been a pretty consistent theme, which appears to be what these women wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:41 PM
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Try it for what
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:35 PM
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Does who even exist now
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:18 PM
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Girlllllll It's so weird how RPM is pretty much just "here's how you can be happy" and RPW is just "here's how to make him happy so you can be happy." I mean damn can't anything prioritize women??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:07 PM
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Believe it or not, no But I'll give you one for free: 😯 > 😲
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:51 PM
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I'll save you the trouble: 1) men are perfect so if you're unhappy you're doing something wrong. Suck his dick until you feel better 2) don't break up for any reason. If you're unhappy you're doing something wrong. Suck his dick until you feel better 3) if a man is being mean to you, guess what? Suck his dick until you feel better 4) men like to feel safe and nurtured and cared for and masculine. Then you'll be happy by proxy. You don't worry your pretty little head about your needs, just keep s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:46 PM
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I've been here for years without really being fazed but I couldn't spend five minutes on redpillwomen without wanting to blow my brains out All I could think about was Firecracker from The Boys desperately trying to feed Homelander her milk. The vibes were identical
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:37 PM
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I don't think it was "brutal" either. And the fact remains that the comments still are a chorus of angry attacks at her for doing exactly what he asked her to do. Women should never give men dating advice under any circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:42 AM
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He asked her for an unvarnished view and she gave it. Commenters proceed to call her a bitch and other derogatory terms. I didn't see anything she said that was needlessly harsh or pointlessly cruel, and it's incredible that even when a man intentionally asks for a direct unfiltered assessment people will still attack and insult her for not coddling his feelings and dressing it up in euphemisms and platitudes. This is why women should always just ignore it when men ask for advice. They're going …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:38 AM
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Can't have comphet Can't have AI CAN'T HAVE ANYTHING!! 😩
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:42 PM
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Women prefer natural bears but with enough gender-affirming care and bulking, a pale imitation can also suffice... With enough game 🦌
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:11 PM
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It really is that easy if you do field reports from Build-a-Bear 🤷🏿 just look at what they choose and imitate that, duh Women really do give the best dating advice 🙂‍↕️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:08 PM
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Q4M: have you considered bearmaxxing so that women choose you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:16 PM
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Where's the accountability 😩
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:16 PM
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All I'm reading is that you can't hold frame
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:00 PM
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Really only insecure and/or undesirable men are hung up on this shit. It's why dating them and giving them chances is a shit deal for women, among other reasons. You'll always be used as a proxy for his own internal bullshit and it'll make your relationship (and by extension, your life) miserable. Leave these men tf alone. Don't entertain them and their nonsense for a second. If you get a whiff of sexual jealousy and insecurity get the fuck out and don't look back, there's nothing good that awai…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:34 PM
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She's literally me Also POV: how single women see men with red flags
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:11 AM
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Women in 2026 are not "discovering" that a man watches porn, we are practically raised with this info being the default "9 in 10 men watch porn and 1 in 10 is lying yuck yuck"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:12 PM
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This is vaguely true if your knowledge is restricted to the Anglosphere…. TIL the Middle East is the Anglosphere Men oppressed, and men oppress and hate women because they want to and can. Our behavior has never had shit to do with it. We just had to be female and that was reason enough. Why did we have to be "given the right to vote" in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:23 PM
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Most men are partnered. The most common way couples meet now is online, and yet men can't stop complaining about the completely unrealistic, unreasonable standards of women. We're all "influenced" by things but only men are telling women their sexual attraction is wrong because of their own ragebaiting algorithms. Women have always been sexually attracted to conventionally attractive men, that's nothing new. Men have zero actual evidence that women en masse are being primarily "influenced" to ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:29 AM
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The disingenuous framing of your OC is the only thing I called out. If Ange hadn't made her comment we would have never seen you say anything about "age ranges." And like I said, "age ranges" aren't even the end-all, be-all to attraction for men. It's not even an objective metric in the first place, it's still a moving target depending on the man and his preferences. Your attempt to portray this false equivalency as "porn brain" will always fall flat because women are not compulsively sexual lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:11 AM
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It's not really just ever "age ranges," it's also weight, etc. Men aren't ever really attracted to "most women," they just automatically rule out everyone who doesn't qualify and then proclaim moral superiority that they're willing to fuck most of the women they consider fuckable. They're no different than women. I'd also consider "most men" attractive if I just ruled out everyone I didn't consider attractive off the bat 🙄 Yeah, it does make a major difference when you are actually accurately de…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:23 AM
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So you have unlisted parameters that invalidate your own claim yet still think you have a point? As usual this is just a complaint that female sexuality is bad and wrong because it's not male sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:06 AM
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I don't understand framing any of these differences in terms of "value," especially outside of the strict parameters of reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:02 PM
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She would for Chad. I have to like, speak to women and stuff because I’m a Chud 😞 es muy triste My most recent first date who I’m currently in a relationship with was an acquaintance I first met who I invited over to my place to watch Ex Machina. Part way through the movie I put my arm around her. After the movie I told her I wanted to kiss her. That moved on to making out & intimacy We like a verbal consent king 👑 We don’t have dogs, but we have a permanent cat & got another foster cat recently…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:59 PM
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How do you make the leap in logic from "must provide unique value" or else "society would be better off without them?" Not sure how your title relates to your premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:51 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:47 PM
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u/Reasonable_Mouse789, pls confirm a first date with you goes something like this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:44 PM
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Your thoughts change nothing I said. This isn't a debate post, this is a Q4W. Your rant about quotas etc. has nothing to do with anything, and your entire engagement with my comment and the others on this post is making up things to be mad about and strawmanning because you hate feminism. My only point is that as long as women exist, feminism is necessary because there will always be people interested in undoing progress. It is the exact same for any other minority group who has been oppressed o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:10 PM
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Sweden maintains equality through the continued active safeguarding and advocacy of feminism. Not sure if you've noticed, but hard-won rights only continue when people continue to advocate for them. They don't permanently become etched in stone 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:16 AM
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None of that has anything to do with my opinion of anything. It's all completely irrelevant to why I have the opinions I have and what I've said.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:07 AM
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I don't really care about the different wave distinctions, that's all needless post-hoc division. I base my opinion on whatever the issues are, regardless of what "wave" classification others denote. Legitimate feminist issues exist in every country but it's up to the women in them to ensure the advocacy is still effective, targeted, meaningful, and relevant. I don't think where I live feminists have done a good job of that lately and it directly hurts the cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:58 AM
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Most men are simps Yes, famously the top complaints women have about men are how overly interpersonally considerate they are and how well they anticipate and tend to our needs. "He kept the fridge too well stocked and never let me care for our children." "The toilet seat was always down and he never forgot important dates." "Really I hated how good he was at remembering what I liked and making my favorite meals when I was sad and he gave me too many thoughtful gifts." Only a man could make this …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:24 AM
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Modern-day western feminism has lost the plot for a number of reasons that have fuck-all to do with manosphere gripes (which are essentially the same complaints men have been making about women for millennia but repeatedly repackaged as new and innovative takes). I don't believe in choice feminism, I don't believe motherhood is empowering but rather plays right into the hands of patriarchy by making women weaker and dependent on/permanently tied to men, I don't believe in "feminism for everyone"…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:51 AM
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Not sure how this relates to my comment but thanks for sharing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:32 AM
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Women being nice to men, women being "humble," women being smiley submissive agreeable doormats, women going along to get along, women censoring ourselves, women behaving exactly as men demand has never made men treat us better or "support our issues" As history very clearly demonstrates
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:52 AM
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From my years on this sub, this is 100% accurate. Most of the "gender war" comes down to the idea that women don't really have the right to refuse to pair up with men because "birth rates" and "large groups of unattached men cause issues." It's the underlying basis of every single complaint about pickiness, because otherwise why can't women decide to be single if that would make her happier than her options? What a woman does with her life and pussy really shouldn't be anyone's business but her …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 05:17 PM
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Iran killed several orders of magnitude more in the protests. There's no good guys here, everyone sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:50 AM
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We went from Operation Epic Fury to a Memorandum of Understanding lmaooo Goofy ahh timeline
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:43 AM
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... The reason for this debate topic is that usually women tend to jump on the train of thought that men mainly or only care about sex This is you pretending like this "train of thought" spawns from the ether instead of being an accurate reflection and observation of what men routinely proclaim when in reality the men that think like that don't even know what they are actually chasing. This is you presenting an alternate reality that tells us to not believe our own eyes and ears on nothing but "…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:03 PM
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Nothing I said was about a contradiction. You are not honestly engaging with the substance of my comment and criticism. Your post is trying to convince women men don't mean what they say, which is silly. If you're so convinced of this then you should be arguing with the men who say these things, and not the women who merely observe and sometimes remark on what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:36 PM
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I think it's weird to make a post directed at telling women that what men say shouldn't be interpreted the way they insist instead of telling these men directly they are wrong. Why are men so much more eager to tell women not to believe our eyes and ears than they are to tell men they aren't being honest about what they want? Women are merely observing what men say and do. Women aren't the ones who claim the only way men can feel human is through sexual attraction. Women aren't the ones who repe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:31 PM
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I don't think that it is. You are making it sound like women are not even attracted to men Nope. Let's just cut the shit right here. That's not remotely "what I made it sound like," that is your continued projection onto what I said creating things I didn't say. This is done.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:57 PM
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The point about making observations isn't to "win men over" or "gain allies" in the first place. Not sure why you think that's the point of anything I said. But as the tendency of your responses go, they're not really ever about addressing what was said or honestly engaging with the intent, they are about your particular ax to grind against "feminism." So you can have fun with that by yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:51 PM
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The central premise of your post is that these things are significant enough that they should bring women noticeable "comfort" My reply is why your premise is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:51 PM
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The things you listed aren't even remotely the biggest friction points women have with men, so that's probably why
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:29 PM
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Okay, obviously the experience of misogyny is separate from reading things online. But I think it's telling that older women who lived in more explicitly misogynistic times have a higher opinion of men than the women who live in today's obviously more egalitarian society. No, they fucking didn't. This is a lie delusional men insist on telling themselves. Many young women are told by our older female relatives to stay single and not have children. They gush about how much they wish they had had t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:48 AM
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So why did so many women want to get married before, but now no longer to? Why did women want to pair up with men more when it was necessary, but less when it's not? Is that a serious question? Do you really think that the only reason this was the case in the past was just because women needed men's money but otherwise completely hated all men? I never said they "completely hated all men," this is a bad-faith engagement of my comment. Men never had to ever be attractive and likable en masse befo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:54 AM
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I think this is probably olds news when it comes to dudes discussing women in an objectivifying way in their incel forums or redpill spaces. Several thousands of years of history made this "old news" for women. This is not specific to "incels," as convenient for your narrative as that might be Everyone knows how Women as a group have responded to reading that. We didn't have to "read it" to experience it with our own lives. But think the more subtle part is the fact it goes both ways. This is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:43 AM
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Men have been loudly and publicly bitching about how awful women are for millennia. Religion is one of the most obvious instances of this. Women have long known how shitty a lot of men think we are. The opinion that we're stupid manipulative children who need to be strictly controlled is nothing remotely new to the internet age. Based on the bias of your post and this really curious blindness, it's pretty evident to me that you don't really think that the disaster is in knowledge of these ideas.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:34 PM
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Even GTA can't stop the hypergamy train 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 09:26 PM
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And if power without self-knowledge made men oppressive, Where has this been established? Who has seriously presented this direct cause-and-effect?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 08:50 PM
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This post failed immediately as a "thought experiment" when you centered your premise around social skills and then set up your "experiment" around online dating. Environments related to social skills involve the ways couples meet offline. They don't just involve isolated 1-on-1 interactions, they encompass the wider variety and scope of social aptitude necessary to successfully develop, maintain, and navigate a co-ed social network.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 08:39 PM
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Well yes. I am looking for the love of my life and I think it's cruel to use women as a place holder. And I need some assurance of her attraction to me. I've complained about that too here, but again, it doesn't make for a funny post. I mean that's fine. But I've seen you describe the women you're into - who overall would be very desirable - and then see you be completely unmotivated to engage with the easiest kind of dating. That's nothing women can help you with. You have to want to date, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:51 PM
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None of this has ever made a woman look attractive to me. I know there are men out there who care a lot about women maintaining a certain upkeep, but that's never moved the needle for me. Maybe I'm a little more face blind than average. Well as you observed earlier I'm speaking in generalities. I will gently push back on this and say that 'why are you attracted to this woman' and 'What do you like about this woman' are two different questions. I could break down every facet of her body I find at…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:31 PM
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I think status is doing a lot of heavy lifting here, honestly. But if some people can find former presidents hot, I guess some women are face people? I feel like I never hear a woman say 'his face is really pretty' about a guy they're actually in a relationship with. They just go on about his personality. Women don't say "his face is really pretty" because our attraction lens tends to be more holistic and less objectifying. I don't mean that in a pejorative way, it's just a difference between ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:55 PM
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I think generally for women yes, but once you start deviating from average the weighting varies. Generally female "butterfaces" have more appeal than a male equivalent because I don't think men care as much about a face as much as a body. I think you can find a lot of male butterfaces in sports, but they can still be successful because of the status/money halo + good bodies. I think if we were comparing all else equal, a slightly below body + better face in men is going to have more appeal and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:28 PM
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Valid. The only time I've seen it is probably 15-20 years ago when I was getting my hair braided and that's what she had on the TV. I wish I was blackout ☠️ The first person who comes out with sedation hair braiding is gonna make bank lmao. But I'm sure liability wise no one would take the risk
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:27 PM
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For the real thing? Yes. But I want the dynamic where my gay son and I organically reenact an absurdist conversation dynamic because we just ✨ vibe ✨ so well lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:25 PM
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I'm a thot daughter but this makes having a gay son look like so much fun 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:08 PM
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How so
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 07:36 PM
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Follow me for more amazing relationship advice <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 07:33 PM
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Men are born at the wall 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 07:22 PM
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You don't believe in the fundamental evo-psych basis of red-pill. If you did, you wouldn't be confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:36 AM
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Why do you consider yourself red-pilled?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:29 AM
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Not all men, but always a man making this argument. I wonder why?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:18 AM
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My questions, unsurprisingly, remain unanswered
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:10 AM
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How is a "red-pilled man" confused by the fact that male and female sexuality are not the same? How is a "red-pilled man" confused by the idea that men get the sexual attraction they inspire?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:06 AM
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Men here regularly "explain" (of course, not threatening) that without sexual access a cascade of severely negative consequences will inevitably and invariably happen to society. Because men's only way of empathizing with other people is through the possession of a partner and children; otherwise, he has no "stake in society." They also say that single men are easily recruited for radicalization because something something villages and warmth. These things are presented as universal, immutable t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 12:14 AM
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It can be. There's nuance to it, and it really depends on the comorbid traits. I've dated nerds and my family of origin leans nerdy. I suppose I'm nerdy in a way. Being knowledgeable can show competency, but it depends on the area of knowledge. Being knowledgeable about things that demonstrate social competency is hot. If you're knowledgeable about Dragon Ball Z lore that might nerf your appeal. If you're knowledgeable about history, architecture, or other less niche areas that translate to real…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:29 PM
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This is part of what bugs me so much about the "hypergamy" hysteria. The "average man" in general in the West (America particularly) has gotten so much less attractive over time, yet men still insist on blaming "hypergamy," dating apps, social media and occasionally now even Hollywood for women being less attracted to men. If they can admit that biologically women are pickier, they are conceding that our baselines are different. So if the "average" goes from the effort to be fit and stylish to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:18 PM
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The Madonna-Whore complex also isn't a logically consistent or well-reasoned argument, it's mens' feelings. It's the same inconsistency as wanting constant easy casual sex but finding sluts disgusting. And the fact that so many men find that so much more objectionable than the demonstrable harm regular porn has caused says a lot about male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:02 PM
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Genuinely looksmatched couple according to PPD men without dating apps and social media 😔 <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:22 AM
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Broken record. "Logical for your gender" "your gender is not logical" "nah nah nah nah boo boo I'm rubber you're glue." This is boring and unproductive. The OP was straightforward and had nothing to do with who someone would or wouldn't date. All these men replying about not dating women who do porn is just one non-sequitur after another, including your "logical" comments 😃 Gonna do more interesting things. Ta ta now!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:16 AM
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... did you mean to provide a perfect example of my point, or was that completely unintentional? Either way, I'm pretty amused
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:58 AM
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I'm thinking that the central premise of the OP has nothing to do with these conditions. It is simply and directly conflating the consumption of non-OF porn with the demonization of OF porn. Men (particularly on this sub) are violently protective of their right to consume porn, to the point of such hysterics that any perceived criticism of it is interpreted as literally controlling their ability to masturbate. Yet against that background they loudly condemn a specific type of porn without a logi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:31 AM
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Yes, lack of reading comprehension does make debate hard
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:06 AM
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Mfw most of my Reddit notifications are from users on my ignore list
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:55 PM
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That's not how reading comprehension works though. Or at least, it's not supposed to. You can't ever successfully communicate if you're just going to project whatever your personal grievance or hangup is onto whatever was actually said. And nothing in the OP could reasonably be interpreted as or twisted into who men do or don't want to date
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:02 PM
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It's so weird how many men are either unable or unwilling to understand your argument. I'm not sure how much of this is intentional because that's the only way they can form some sort of rebuttal that makes sense to them or what the deal is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:10 PM
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Okay? His claim is still wrong regardless of your opinion of what matters most...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 09:12 PM
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Please revisit my first reply. There was nothing being "split 50/50," the time of all work was balanced by hours. A 50/50 split did not exist for anything specifically. "Work and chores" were not split 50/50, there was a balance between all forms of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:40 PM
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That's not remotely what that link said. In fact, the very first graph explicitly disproved your summary. The actual chart you are gleefully misinterpreting is about an equal division of time of all work, both paid and unpaid. It is not saying men are doing 50% of the work at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:11 PM
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How are the matches determined, outside of the man's opinion Because the complaints tend to be a variation on a theme of "my looksmatch doesn't want me!!" 😠😡
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:43 PM
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I am once again asking why and how men know who their "matches" are if they don't actually want him back
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:26 PM
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Unless they're also demonizing and hating baristas, this isn't an equivalent situation. OF has definitely been the target of male ire in a way that other porn never was.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:39 PM
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A+ post. A day later and no one could effectively argue against it, only strawman; goalpost-move; or prove your point. It's something I've long observed myself as well. Men can always be "experts" on the female dating (and often even just life) experience, female thought processes, inner female monologues, female sexual experiences, female attraction, etc. but it can never go the opposite direction because women just "can't truly understand what it's like to be a man" 😫😫 Such a silly double-stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:11 PM
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I'm not sure why I need to point out that that was clearly a figure of speech, but here we are ig
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:54 PM
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No, obligating those things is super weird. Doesn't require legal meddling to allow people to make their own decisions about their own money. I'm not having kids but all my money is going to animal charities, when it could go to my friends or friends' kids but nah lol. I guess my brother too if I die before him (and assuming my parents are dead). That said, I understand that you're a trust fund recipient, and if your children didn't have the same (not necessarily requiring additional money after…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:46 PM
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The contradiction is in being so loudly hateful of sex workers in one medium but not the other, when the main difference is self-employability. It's not about who men would date vs fuck. The argument isn't that men are saying they would date one group but not another. It's not about who they date or fuck at all, the point of hypocrisy is the criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:57 PM
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I was thinking the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:28 PM
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A lack of y-chromosome doesn't magically make half the population incapable of experiencing the same internal bonding as the other half. One doesn't need to have "female friends" to know that. They just have to know they're still human beings. It's not a serious post. It's like the Q4W made years ago asking essentially if women are sentient. Even asking these questions fundamentally comes from a perspective that women aren't also human beings. We shouldn't have to "prove" his doubts same as we s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:52 PM
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These are not serious questions and this is not a serious post
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:33 PM
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Chat, do women have object permanence and long-term memory? The science is still out
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:08 PM
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Why the hell do see so many thinkpieces on social media Who wants to tell him what an algorithm is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:04 AM
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It's an incoherent stance that "feminism" causes hypergamy. When you restrict or prevent women from the necessary resources for self-sufficiency, obviously the entire purpose is to make women dependent on men for everything. Women have to "date up" far more than they do with feminism, in large part because when you have nothing or next to nothing everyone you date will be "up." When women can support themselves, you get increasing egalitarianism. No women in oppressive countries are going half o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:50 AM
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Your reply to hungry-plaintain was a rebuttal mainly centered around a correction of what "representative women" are doing. What she was replying to also wasn't about "representative women," because "representative women" aren't posting what he claimed either. You're redefining the context of what she was replying to. You coming in now and arbitrarily deciding only "young women from our generation" count isn't what the original comment stated. And these conditions still don't make the original c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:31 AM
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Women "in general" aren't doing this either. The median woman is a married middle-aged, overweight mother. This woman is not posting half-naked thirst traps and videos of herself "making out with strangers" on social media. You guys are 100% using your specific algorithms and irrationally extrapolating them to all women when odds are most women are completely invisible to you outside of the narrow band of young thin vain hot women you keep clicking on on your FYP
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:13 AM
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Man Jim Caviziel was super hot on Person of Interest. Too bad he's dumb AF and crazy as hell. And not even in a fun way like Chet Hanks, like you just know dude is absolute trash in bed and miserable to live with. OTOH, the composer Ramin Djawadi was equally hot during the PoI era. I didn't even realize he was also the composer for Game of Thrones too but now that I know that it definitely makes sense. The vibes are similar. Anecdotally IME composers have been pretty good-looking, not sure why.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:17 PM
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Is what usually the other way around?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:44 PM
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No one does that. Okay, good chat then. Not sure there's a point reading any further when out the gate I'm being told none of the things I've read were actually real Take care now!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:42 PM
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There's zero evidence, just men substituting their solipsistic "logic" based on selective and incomplete "observations" into universal objective reality. They ignore 99.9% of people who don't fall into a specific class/background/etc. and hyperfocus on only who "Chad fucks" and then conclude only Chads have casual sex. Meanwhile everyday coworkers hook up with coworkers, neighbors hook up with neighbors, and all kinds of people fuck the people they are most often in proximity to due to familiari…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:34 PM
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I like a strong nose on men too. I find this man's face very attractive and he definitely has a large nose, but it's more attractive overall. To put on a blackpill hat for a second, nostril exposure is more congruent with some demographics over others. It wasn't the size overall, and it wasn't ugly, it was just aesthetically incongruent IMO 🤷🏿 I don't have any opinions about the new nose, but I do think the old nose had more character despite being incongruent. When you try for "aesthetic perfec…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 05:04 PM
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Your hypothetical is an annoying black-pill diversion from the topic to a personal hangup or grievance. That's not why I'm here. Not responding further.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 05:57 AM
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Did you even write this gish gallop? It's formatted weirdly like AI, but I think even AI manages to make at least one accurate claim or two
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:49 AM
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I'll have to get an audiobook. Not because she can't read, but because of her dyslexia
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:23 PM
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Do you host seminars or have a newsletter I could subscribe to? I feel like I have a lot I could learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:22 PM
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Wow, you're really good at this. I'll report back my results tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:54 PM
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Good advice. I might add in a bit of passive dread by holding her favorite toy juuuust out of reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:48 PM
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I'm well aware of what you can do. And I'm "allowed" to comment on what actions you take? Like what are we doing here 🤣 You were not remotely on topic. A word being mentioned doesn't make any and all thoughts you have related to that word "on topic" because of a little quaint concept I like to call context. I'm done entertaining this pointless engagement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:44 PM
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Guys how do I teach my dog to stop simping. I usually give her some treats before going upstairs for the night as a reward for just being an adorable awesome dog that day. But sometimes I'll tell her to sit before she can receive them... and she just does it. Like she just lets me command her around. How do I teach her to have some goddamn self-respect??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:40 PM
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It was a pretty transparent attempt to insert yourself into a conversation and change the topic into what you wanted to talk about, instead of what it actually was
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:34 PM
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You can't disagree with something I never said. Nothing in my comment was concerning the origins or causes of this neuroticism. That's a completely different topic and focus than the OC, and my reply by extension
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:23 PM
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I'd like to personally take credit for Clav's recent transformation. You heard it here first folks, my influence has unimaginable reach <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:05 PM
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I think it heavily depends on the amount of neuroticism required to maintain the appearance. I know some women are turned off by even the effort required to meal prep. Others can't stand the macros and protein tracking, etc. I think the drop in perceived masculinity is almost just as much behavioral as it is physical appearance. But more superficial indicators like hair transplants, leg lengthening, etc. will probably be more polarizing wrt masculinity than fitness and dieting. If you look back …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:03 PM
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and what exactly is nuianced? That a possible tendency isn't some kind of universal guarantee Like your comment indicates: my point was that if a woman is preaching to yuou about any of these things, you are not desirablet to her. which goes with your point. Is not caring about my opinion also going to be on at 11? since it was so obvious? You're dragging this out way longer than necessary. It's a non-issue
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:49 PM
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my point was that if a woman is preaching to yuou about any of these things, you are not desirablet to her. As is so common in manospherians, a tendency can't ever be understood with any kind of nuance. It must immediately be turned into an unequivocal, universal black-and-white proclamation also the "More at 11" is so played out and corny. Not really concerned with your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:17 PM
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Idk mate, I think the trans pipeline is winning right now over the gay recruitment 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:00 PM
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N-count thread weeks are so boring. I get why they're necessary though. In other news, DAE think women don't deserve freedom and rights because they don't want to fuck enough men on sight? /s for the admin filters
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:57 PM
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Area man discovers pretty privilege. More at 11
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:50 PM
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Boniness isn't really sexy to women. Muscles are. The sexy parts here would be shoulders/delts and traps. This is male gaze projected onto women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:51 PM
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Puppieeeeez Though it definitely seems you have a "type" 😛 <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:47 PM
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Has anyone else been diagnosed with Adult Delusional Hypergamy Disorder? Also get this woke bullshit off my Reddit <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 11:03 PM
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You came hot out the gate lecturing me about my "ableism" and now want to play a victim. I don't really have the time for it. You also avoided my question about why calling men who fuck "trash" was okay with you, given the moral policing from the high horse. Curious. "Worsening it" is the same difference. I never even said it "creates misogyny," but even your "worsening" is a creation of misogyny. If misogyny exists at 60%, and mean words from women make an additional 10% misogynistic, that has …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:48 PM
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You just demonstrated what I was agreeing with What I said wasn't an opinion. It is a fact. Double-standards don't involve facts, they involve feelings. Editing your OC to include my comment as evidence is only going to make you look goofy, as it requires biological denialism
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:43 PM
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If the behavior and circumstances are the same, then that "something different" are just internal feelings. Which all double-standards are based on Believe it or not, still doesn't magically not make it a double-standard Now I'm truly done, an inability to accept the dictionary isn't something I can fix
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:39 PM
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Men are more comfortable living in lower standards than women. We have different baselines. Alone, we can more easily maintain our baseline for happiness. Environment is part of wellness. Most people spend the majority of their lives at home. If you don't feel comfortable and happy at home then where else can you feel comfortable and happy at? It's the one part of the world that is yours. So if women don't or can't feel peaceful and relaxed at the one and only place she can get rest and relaxati…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:36 PM
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Not sure if you caught it, but I also called men who fuck "trash." Why didn't that earn a lecture from you? Don't you think I genuinely believe these men are actually trash? Aren't these men's feelings just as important to you? This is all a bunch of triggered tone policing based on your brother. It's a you problem. You tunnel-visioned on that phrase because of your own sensitivity, to the exclusion of actually understanding the point I was making. I'm going to continue writing the way I want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:05 PM
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The typical "range of behaviors" is how the general perception is developed. That's just how pattern observation works. If you are talking about public perception of "male sexuality" and "female sexuality," by definition you're referring to the general aggregate patterns. Not edge cases. And whether you accept it or not, the general range of male sexuality contains a lot more coercive; violative; and non-consensual elements than the general range of female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 09:59 PM
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I don't do "shoulds" for opinions. People are free to believe whatever they want. The fact of the matter is if you judge identical behavior under identical circumstances differently, it's a double standard. You're free to have it, but you're not free to deny what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 09:52 PM
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Hmmm, okay. So - It's either "women are constantly scheming to manipulate and deceive men, and everything they do from twirling their hair to wearing lipstick to cucking is meticulously pre-planned and intentionally designed. Something something muh Esther Villar" or "Women are too stupid and self-unaware to know ourselves and our behavior ahead of time, much less reflect on internal motivations. We're like puppies, living always in the moment from the moment to the next. We're barely sentient h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 09:48 PM
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I highly recommend getting all dads a tactical Chihuahua
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 09:36 PM
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But "public discussions about sexuality" aren't going to explicitly be centered around edge cases, it will be centered around aggregate behavior. Hence the relevance of my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 09:21 PM
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... the crux of your OP is explicitly, exclusively about chores. Me responding to the actual topic is not somehow saying that chores are the only thing that matters in life 🤣😭
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 09:19 PM
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No, I'm going to give you the definition and consider this matter done: A double standard is the application of different sets of principles for situations that are, in principle, the same.[1] It is often used to describe treatment whereby one group is given more latitude than another.[2] A double standard arises when two or more people, groups, organizations, circumstances, or events are treated differently even though they should be treated the same way.[3] A double standard "implies that two …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:57 PM
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By definition, they do
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:54 PM
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Double standards require same behavior. Do you think male and female sexuality, in aggregate, is identically expressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:43 PM
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That wasn't agreeing with your worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:49 PM
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It's so fucking weird how obsessed the manosphere is with "hypergamy" even as age and wage gaps reach historic lows. It's like y'all are determined to keep living in the long ago past cause that's the only way the incoherent concepts you've based your entire worldview around make any sense. Where women are politically, religiously, and economically liberated, everything related to hypergamy decreases. Where women are oppressed, everything related to hypergamy increases. Because obviously if wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:38 PM
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I gave it a little thought, and determined the accusation unfounded.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:40 PM
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The stretch required to twist and contort what I said to being "ableist" makes this comment not really worthy of serious engagement. My comment had a specific context in response to specific claims made in a debate post. Maybe you should ask yourself why you were determined to ignore those circumstances in favor of feeling moral indignation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:38 PM
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Ending up in a relationship, and being a sexless loser up until that relationship, are not mutually exclusive My comment already addressed this: The men who want to make sex equally enjoyable for women do so of their own accord, independent of their options. Even men in relationships can eventually learn their partner, despite having no casual sex. They just have to want to, and they have to care. You're not really engaging with the content of my rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:35 PM
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Most men don't end up sexless losers though. The crux of your argument has already been rebutted by the simple fact that most men end up in relationships, and yet the gap still persists. Clearly the idea of "casual sex selectivity" isn't the issue. The men who want to make sex equally enjoyable for women do so of their own accord, independent of their options. Even men in relationships can eventually learn their partner, despite having no casual sex. They just have to want to, and they have to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:23 PM
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Hi, slut here. The idea that men with "abundance" are all selfish trash and sexless losers are undercover sex gods is a convenient narrative, but just not true. The orgasm gap persists into relationships, even though most men end up partnered. It's selfishness and the penis-centric framing of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:19 PM
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The Instagram one
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:07 AM
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What's the difference between you and that dude
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:04 AM
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True dat
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:04 AM
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If not ocean why ocean shaped? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:51 AM
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Not even for fame and infamy 🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:50 AM
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Q4singleM: what's stopping you from broadcasting your misery for others' entertaining and rubbernecking?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:20 AM
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So you think people are unattractive and have no sexual or romantic attention at all. Not what I said. What I actually said was very simple and clear. But despite the change being in attractiveness only, the reason people are interested in them after the change has got nothing to do with attractiveness. Really?! This is literally the exact opposite of what I said. I don't think further engagement will be productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:53 PM
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No, it's because in aggregate there are different standards of cleanliness and chore schedules to the point where the woman's quality of life and happiness takes a noticeable hit cohabitating with a man. The solution is to stop doing that, which is what many women increasingly do. They then get bitched at for their "runaway hypergamy" keeping men single I also note your complete lack of first-hand sources for what "women are admitting"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:39 PM
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I'm saying they should be honest and admit it's about looks, not the bullshit about personality. Yrah, and I'm saying I don't think this actually happens
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:36 PM
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I don't believe in this incel AU where no one ever says they were sexually attracted to someone based on looks, only their "good personality"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:01 PM
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Yeah, I don't think that happens
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:49 PM
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This is truly what I've never understood about "glow up" resentment. I'm sure they were less attracted to, or weren't attracted to unattractive people too. Why would other people work any differently? "People weren't attracted to me when I wasn't attractive, and they are attracted to me when I am attractive!! How unfair" like no, that's simple cause and effect buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:12 PM
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These observations are a large part of why I truly couldn't care less about all the crybabies who have an issue with my "tone" and how I say things. Men routinely say far worse on this sub, every single day, and yet me not talking to a guy like he's a toddler makes me a psychopath. Sure. Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:42 PM
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I remember a popular post awhile back that showed a lot of frogs trying to mate with one female frog. They just kept jumping on her. The comments were nothing but jokes. It took some time before I came across a comment that pointed out the female frog was actually dead from drowning. I suppose that really didn't matter though because haha frogs tryna fuck, just like us 😜🤪 There's also far too many people who genuinely believe it's cruel to spay your dog or cat before she's had at least one chanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:20 PM
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Ironically 100% of your recent comments involving me have been nothing but personal attacks; meanwhile, I wasn't attacking her nor was I being uncivil. There's a reason why your comments get deleted and mine stay up. It's not as hard for me to follow the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:05 PM
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Yes, opinions are like assholes, but what you've read other people say on your algorithm or wherever isn't what I said in my comment. So you're still not engaging with the substance of what I said, just throwing a bunch of red herrings at me. I never said no one says relationships aren't damaging btw, I said comparatively people don't belabor how harmful they are compared to the harm of casual sex. Don't think this exchange will be productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:41 AM
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Oxytocin is released from a lot of things. Like I said: there is societal conditioning of women to not indulge in sexual fulfillment via casual sex based on sexist attitudes. And I do think many, if not most women aren't oriented towards strictly casual encounters. You're not really engaging with the substance of my comment, just repeating yourself. I already acknowledged that many women don't handle casual sex well. My specific rebuttal is that the focus on the "harm" of casual sex to women is …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:32 AM
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Personally I find the idea that casual sex, specifically, is so uniquely damaging to women to be a bit of a psyop. Most harm that comes to women in the context of heterosexual relationships isn't from casual sex or situationships, it's from their monogamous relationships. And yet that doesn't get anywhere near the amount of focus and hysteria that casual sex does. This isn't to disagree with the concept of sociosexuality in general. I do think many, if not most women aren't oriented towards stri…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:16 AM
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I don't mind the tatts. Not a fan of the plastic surgery but man was foiiiine in his peak
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:44 AM
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My straight David Bromstad still hasn't manifested Gay male privilege Underprivileged straight female oppression Consider this my official contribution to pride month 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:10 AM
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"I know you are but what am I" ahh post
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:51 AM
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Roleplay on the spectrum
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:47 AM
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Okay. Nothing I said was "all-encompassing" anything, so this is a weird reply. I also linked two other extensive comments that added more context to self-interest, but I didn't write my comment to convince you, so... I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with this information. I just explained my opinion like you asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 08:58 PM
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Biology and rational self-interest, as I've recently elaborated upon here and here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:26 PM
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Irrelevant to the point
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:38 AM
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This is the attitude I wish more parents had, but they don't and I don't think they ever will.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:17 AM
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I have multiple friends who have have had kids since COVID. It's extremely monotonous. I logically understand the appeal of the parts people who want children talk about (even though I can't empathize with finding it desirable), but the parts they wistfully talk about comprise like 5-15% of the actual job of parenting. Moreso as they get older for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:13 AM
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but is it still revolting if they are nice, respectful, and caring but might not be conventionally attractive? This is what you asked, and what I answered
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:09 AM
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Almost no woman, regardless of how the man looks, would find a relationship with a man who only wanted a relationship with her "because she's his only option to get laid" to be desirable I don't understand how that's not self-evident
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:06 AM
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He's excited to have people live out his fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:02 PM
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The first age was 17, which is weird but whatever. Still can be into sports, or any other things that aren't just "talking." And then he went on to mention his sons in sports multiple times. This is a man who clearly has specific ideas of what his children will be into. God help him if he only has daughters. And I think it was also funny how he immediately skipped to the "they're really independent and almost out of the house" years lmao, that's not raising children Vacation parent mentality in …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:49 PM
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I mean, as long as you're along for the ride lol I'm fortunate that my parents, for all their many flaws, allowed me to be who I am. I read stories of other people, especially childfree people, being harassed and nagged by their parents whose visions for their lives included procreating. So much unnecessary preventable drama based on projecting who you wanted your children to be instead of who they are. Works the same for sexual orientation, or career paths, etc. I'd argue a large plurality of d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:18 PM
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It's weird how he already has all the sons being into sports, meanwhile the girl just... talks about her day? Parents should only be parents if they want to parent. Not based on a fantasy, an idealized version of who their children will be and the lives they will have. Whatabout a mentally ill daughter? What about a paralyzed son? I can look around and see generations upon generations of untold trauma and damage caused to children who never lived up to the idea of who their parents expected them…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:11 PM
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Average guy's only option is to rely on friend groups and be a loser, because that is his only option to get laid, It's amazing how on this sub, day in and day out, the lower female interest in relationships with men continue to be blamed on dating apps; delusionality; narcissism; superficiality; and hypergamy. As if the option to be some "average loser's" cum sock isn't inherently revolting
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:48 PM
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I never denied the capacity for women to sexualize themselves You did deny the reality that male sexuality inherently sexualizes females
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:03 PM
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Feel free to deny biology
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:45 PM
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It's 100% fetish posting, and not even subtle about it They're getting lazier
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:34 PM
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Women sexualizing themselves isn't what causes men to sexualize us. HTH
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:32 PM
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And men can and do sexualize women and younger based on nothing but their own sexuality, regardless of what they do or wear or behave. There is no amount of "modesty" that reduces testosterone
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:13 PM
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He got banned, came back some time later under an alt which also got banned. Meanwhile there's another dude here who's been banned from Reddit before and his new account just keeps on trucking
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:47 PM
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So quiet, in fact, only he can hear it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:30 AM
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It's absolutely relevant, once again based on the definition of the word "average" It's easy to keep believing you're correct if you just immediately dismiss all valid rebuttals as "irrelevant," but I've clearly disproven your argument
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:10 AM
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I completely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:09 AM
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Even if the average man earns more is taller than the average woman, there’s nothing stopping most women from dating down; they choose not to. Nothing except probability 🥴
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:07 AM
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Nothing about what you said is correct based on the definition of the word average.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:24 PM
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If most men earn more than most women then you can't really make the point you're trying to make here. It makes about as much of a point as pointing out how most women "choose men" who are taller than they are. As it stands, data shows a decreasing earnings gap in marriage; increasing egalitarianism; and increasing female breadwinners. I think the manosphere needs to update their program but for whatever reason continue to choose feelings over facts by ignoring data that disproves their narrativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:17 PM
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I assure you, women are very familiar with men's emotional blackmail and performative outrage It's commonly mocked <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:42 AM
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Good genes are good genes My ex had a smokin hot brother. Obvs never did anything with him in any way (nor did I even want to), but I recognized he was very attractive. If you make one attractive kid you'll probably make more 🤷🏿 just how genes tend to work
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:53 AM
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Once again, you make zero sense Why is a man naked in bed with a woman if he's so concerned about her "promiscuity" and "paternity" in the first place? Are men stupid? According to you, the answer is yes. Because he's decided to have sex with her, but all he can think about are other mens' dicks because of how much of a slut she is. And boy does he hate sluts, but he's also still fucking her
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:28 AM
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Based on English language
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:24 AM
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Non sequitur
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:22 AM
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A lot of words to justify thinking about dicks when you're balls deep in a pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:20 AM
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That seems disingenuous
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:04 AM
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Still waiting for you to provide them 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:02 AM
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What the OP was clear about was that there are specific answers you're looking for that no one has yet provided, since you ask this over and over and over again and nothing anyone has said thus far is acceptable So if we're always wrong, then clearly you have the right answer
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:00 AM
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Nowhere, got it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:57 AM
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Where did I say "most men"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:55 AM
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Repeatedly posting the same topic and internalizing none of the replies is indeed spam Help us help you. What answers are you looking for us to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:54 AM
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I have a better idea, since you keep spamming this topic on this sub and have all these conditions for our responses. Clearly there's a specific response you want us to give. Why don't you tell us what answers you'll find acceptable, and we'll pick from the list? That way we don't waste our time or yours. Again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:40 AM
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Well in general, women are kind of sexually attracted to other women. What is your proof of this and what does it mean to be "kind of" sexually attracted? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:22 AM
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Imagine fucking a woman and only thinking about other mens' dicks ☠️ Whatever makes you nut ig, but how is that not sus fr. When I'm interacting with dick guess what's on my mind? Dick. ::edit:: based on the numerous personal attacks I've woken up to, it seems like logical, rational men are quite in their feelings about this straightforward observation 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:14 AM
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Bisexuality requires personally being sexually attracted, not just being able to see that a person is visually attractive. It's how the concept of sexual orientation works. If you're not actually sexually attracted then it's not a part of your sexual orientation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:06 AM
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Going on my ignore list ✌🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:36 PM
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Going on my ignore list ✌🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:34 PM
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Going on my ignore list ✌🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:33 PM
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So? It's not a question women can answer. It's for men to determine for themselves. It makes about as much sense as a straight woman asking straight men what she's supposed to like about dick. If you couldn't get that from what I wrote, I can't help you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:31 PM
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Not sure what the point of these pissy whiny rants are. If you don't see anything likable about women why would we care, much less enough to try to convince you? It's perfectly valid to stay away from us. No one is going to make you have a relationship with us and I don't understand why we'd sit here and beg you to anyway. Clearly it'd be downright miserable for all parties involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:20 PM
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I have an old house that was retrofitted with ductwork for A/C. It had two staircases but the back one that split to the kitchen was destroyed for ductwork 😭 but technically I could actually do this if I wanted to lose a vent. And not care about code ig But my sign would be a dog-washing station, fully loaded. Heated dryer, etc. Probably one of those separate water sources too for feeding lmao <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:07 PM
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Irrelevant to the point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 07:26 PM
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Which parts have been proven to be "manufactured," specifically? Graham has directly admitted to being a POS under the umbrella of post combat alcoholism and his wife confirmed him texting other women at the beginning of their marriage. Different women having different experiences with him is completely aligned with an alcohol-related Jekyll/Hyde personality. His mea culpa is that he's "changed" and "grown," despite the very recent signs of infidelity. It's extremely possible for someone to be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:35 PM
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Finally we are in agreement. I have long spoken the gospel of the eyebrow pill
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:30 PM
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Uh what?? Where did you get that idea? The image I attached? 🫩 I don't think it's confusing that if you post an image to make some kind of point, people might respond to what is in the image you purposefully chose to use to make your point If so, i only attached that as an example that virgin or low-N-count relationship doesn't necessarily mean impending FOMO and/or a transactional view of sex. And in doing so apparently completely overlooked the more worrying underlying mentality of the person …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:00 PM
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Wow, I could have an unhealthy codependent relationship had I only stayed a virgin??! FML I don't think the appeal of this is what you think it is to women. But I suppose it's my experience that makes me recognize it for what it is 🤷🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 05:06 PM
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My dad just sent this in the family chat and it jam-packs almost everything I hate about "content creation" culture: there's four layers of content here. There's an original video, which isn't even a particularly clever or funny joke the joke video was reposted by someone else who just added his own reaction at the end that added zero additional insight or value then another woman took that reaction video of the original unfunny joke and spliced it with her own loop of laughter, once again addin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 09:31 PM
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Fuck it, if we have to deal with a spate of these posts now I'll take it <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:46 PM
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Men over-index in pretty much every correlating trait under the narcissism umbrella, even without a triggering situation or circumstance. This has nothing to do with who is "catered to." This is not even debatable, this is already established behavioral science.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:25 PM
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I'm just going to copy and paste, since this is the exact same strawman I've already addressed: My comment made an observation of potential for women to know shitty men in her family, not a declaration of guarantee The comment you replied to was two comments deep into a specific comment chain with a very specific context, so I'm very confused how men keep reaching it completely lost about what I'm saying and why It has nothing to do with grandparents, specifically. It's any older relative. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:17 PM
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How much "validation" women get doesn't make us want to oppress men and revoke their rights. The problem is within men. The problem is male ego. The problem is the possession of the gun. Your attempt to parse the reason why some would behave in such a manner vs others is completely irrelevant, because my point is that it all stems from the same condition of being a man. As I already irritatingly observed in the very comment you replied to: Where are all the women threatening to "drop out of soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:07 AM
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I was clarifying that contrary to implications it's not an innate problem with men, just a difference in circumstance. Oversimplifying what I said to a mere matter of "difference in circumstance" flattens the meaning of the point to an absurd degree that invalidates the existence of problems themselves. "There's no innate problem with the brakes, just a difference in circumstance between your non-functioning ones and properly functioning ones." "There's no innate problems with slavery, just a di…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 05:28 AM
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The difference is because lower desirability groups of women still get some form of validation, while lower desirability groups of men often literally get nothing (even if they try to be productive, helpful, morally upstanding individuals). What point did I make in the quoted text that this is responding to, specifically? This seems like a complete non-sequitur. Been getting a lot of those lately for some reason It's based on common women's complaints, generalizations, and hostile tones. For exa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 05:03 AM
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My comment made an observation of potential for women to know shitty men in her family, not a declaration of guarantee It had literally nothing at all to do with whatever you just said it was, and I'm honestly baffled how you gleaned such a topic from the actual exchange that was made
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:55 AM
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A counter example implies I made a comment containing a premise that could be debated with one. I didn't
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:47 AM
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What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:44 AM
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According to how human beings actually make decisions though, which is more or less rational self-interests based on costs/benefits or risks vs rewards It's totally not
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:57 AM
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Chili cheese dog supremacy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:43 AM
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Exactly. I have abusive male relatives on both sides. I have cheaters on all sides. They're not hypothetical, I know them by name. Hell, I even know my own father wasn't faithful and even my mom doesn't know that. He doesn't even know I know. It's not some third-world "arranged marriage" cultural concept, it's men and anywhere men are. And then they turn around and pretend like the only "damage" and "baggage" women have is from being "pumped and dumped by Chads" lmao. Sure little buddy, keep tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:24 AM
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I'm sorry, did you not see the rape in your haste to blame women for the behavior of men? No need to reply, I'm ignoring you regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 09:32 PM
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It's truly fascinating how men refuse to acknowledge this dynamic. I'm an American but even just a couple days ago was learning brand new information about half-relatives on my mom's side. Her mom had several children with a man starting when she was 18 years old with my 21-year-old granddad, who also cheated and my mom found out about half-siblings in her thirties. My mom's maternal grandfather never married but still partnered and cheated. My maternal grandmother is the first group of offsprin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:58 PM
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So we're just going to assume these men had mind reading capabilities Got it, men are stupid. It doesn't require "mind-reading capabilities" to understand how coercion works, but if you'd like to plead ignorance I can engage with that argument too. Why are men so insistent on women needing them if they don't grasp this basic concept, hmm? Why do we have post after post about "punishing" women by taking away reproductive control and revoking the 19th and how men will "let society rot" because no …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:23 PM
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Let's say you are afraid a demographic is going to start voting against your interests. Why would we be "afraid?" What is being afraid going to change? Instead of ignoring them just accepting that they will do what they want to do you can think like a politician and ask yourself what can you give to that demographic so they vote the way you want them to vote. Everyone wants something. What they want are human beings, who are not for sale. Their demands are inherently unreasonable and unrealistic…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:32 PM
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Yes, we know that already. This is how voting works. Why is that supposed to make women change us working in our self-interests? What is there for us, specifically, to be careful about? What is fretting about men supposed to change? They're going to do what they want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:25 PM
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That doesn't answer why. Like what are women supposed to do with that info? "Oh no, men vote." Yeah, we know that already...? What is there to be "careful" about, just because people vote?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:23 PM
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Why are you spamming this under the replies?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:17 PM
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I have no idea what you're talking about, I don't keep up with Spain and have no clue why I would. There are hundreds of countries in the world dude. Women are just as capable of not going to college and being NEETs mooching off our parents or the government - in fact, according to your pill, that's all we ever do which is why women don't and have never contributed anything meaningful to society. But since women are self-motivated aside from being handed other people as rewards, we aren't acting…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:15 PM
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I like that your takeaway is that women feigned love instead of men not giving a shit how they felt as long as they "submitted" and obeyed. Do you think the men in the most oppressive, patriarchal cultures today believe their wives "love" them? The "kinds of guys getting the most women" are a combination of looks/extroversion/low neuroticism. I'm not sure why this is supposed to be some sort of groundbreaking, earth-shattering revelation to men. Where are all the women threatening to "drop out o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:53 PM
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Today saw a very weird thing that a man did for women by giving her a seat and I gave him a lecture about everything written in this post and he agreed, so we need to send this message to more men especially young men who are brainwashed by feminist prapoganda. That man's name? Say it with me now: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:20 PM
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The only "rights" you explicitly enumerated to "fight against" abortion and birth control. Great, so we get that angle. Take away options for fertility management and hormonal issues (not to mention some completely unrelated medications like Accutane literally require hormonal birth control) in order to punish women. What all's included in the "etc." though? That's just one aspect. How else should women be "punished" for not supporting men enough? Because honestly this just makes men look even m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 09:39 AM
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No quote, just your made up bullshit of things I never said Got it, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:29 AM
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This is when they start making qualifications on it like they do in car commercials lmao. Except instead of "best rated mid-size sedan in the upper peninsula from May 2025 - August 2025" it's "average for my preferred age and weight and class and femininity."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:31 AM
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Feel free to quote where I specifically said "the majority of women are self actualized" and we can have that conversation champ Cause holy non sequitur Robin
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:48 AM
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Q4M: is this what you mean by wife material? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:09 AM
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Aww, did that touch a nerve? Pity. I was just repeating what men say 🤷🏿 I look forward to you speaking out against them as well!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 12:50 AM
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I paid for myself and always have. I communicate this in advance. It has nothing to do with whether I like a guy or not, it's my own universal boundary because I don't like feeling indebted and don't want to deal with the stupid "sex pls??" transactional mindset of some men who pay. It's not adversarial so much as it is self-interest. I don't have to worry about the stupid pulling out my purse fakeout song-and-dance nor the costs of whatever I order. He can also relax and enjoy the date without …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 12:16 AM
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Male egos don't die without incalculable collateral damage. Men on this sub have made that abundantly clear. Women turn inwards and can eventually reach peace. We leave men alone. Men turn outwards and cause violence and chaos, or at best turn a blind eye to the violence and chaos around them out of resentment. The male ego is like a dying star - sure, it can die, but it's going to take everything in its path with it. That's why all this framing about dating and birth rates always invariably com…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:36 PM
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Men are incredibly emotional and sensitive. This is not a slight, I think it’s normal (to a degree for people generally). What I find abnormal is the lack of self awareness about this amongst yourselves. It's crazy to me the number of times they'll posture about how dangerous society will get for women if we don't pair up with them and fuck them enough and have enough babies with them, all the while trying to claim some sort of monopoly on logic and reason. I've never once read a woman saying sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:16 PM
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I find they often conflate understanding why a feeling exists with that being logical. There's also an inherent automatic assumption that since they are logical, any feelings they have must be logical. E.g. "I feel insecure and jealous when a woman does xyz, therefore it is logical for me to control her doing xyz. And because I'm logical, the jealously and insecurity I feel is completely appropriate." This is why only women are emotional and they aren't. Only women behave in irrational ways or h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 04:59 PM
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British couple jailed in Iran have lost appeal against convictions, family says "They were jailed after their arrest in January 2025 while travelling through Iran during a round-the-world trip by motorcycle." IYKYK <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:58 PM
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Well, we know our areas of disagreement. I don't think men in the west are currently nearly as bad at being partners as you say, much less biologically bound to be so--though biology is real. Because you're determined to blame hypergamy instead due to your models, instead of internalizing the very real complaints of modern women. You could make every man hot and rich tomorrow and that's only going to make the initial hurdle of attraction in dating easier to surpass. It's not going to address the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:37 PM
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Most people of both genders don't think big picture. But more of those who do are male. And for them, it isn't primarily because they want to get laid more. I completely disagree. I think the overwhelming majority of it absolutely is virtue-signaling for compulsive sexuality. Some hypergamy always makes sense and still allows the monogamy math to work. The ideal pairing rate is not gonna be 100%--in the NW European marriage pattern, something like 20-25% of women never married for hundreds of ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:57 AM
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What I'm saying is that this observation that men understand this more is based on an erroneous assumption that these men actually care about the birth rates. They talk about this more not because they really believe in this, but as a more acceptable cover and framing for the fact that they want sex or think sex is a need. It's not as socially accepted to talk about that. It's better to virtue-signal about "birth rates." And there is no gender-fair solution because relationships and babies are i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:56 AM
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Men want kids out of narcissism and ego, not out of duty to society. That's why when they talk about the reasons why they want them it's either dumb shit like "I want to teach them what I know" "I want to play catch with them" or "my last name." None of them actually want to be fathers, they want the vacation parent experience. Historical rates of abandonment belie this narrative about "duty to society" as well as who wants to be a primary parent after divorce. I don't really think you're being …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:38 AM
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There's no reason why everything has to be 1-to-1 "equal," nothing I said was "this specific undesirable trait is directly equal to this specific undesirable trait in the opposite sex." What I said was that the groupings of desirable traits and groupings of undesirable traits are matched with equal groupings in the opposite sex. This is not saying that every grouping will have the exact same number of traits as the opposite sex grouping.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:52 AM
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If you want a traditional woman they exist regardless of what "mass validation" there is for those standards. If you want a virgin woman they exist regardless of what "mass validation" there is for this standard. Compatibility is about alignment, not "tolerance." If men need society to brainwash or condition women into "tolerating" their standards then that's just a sign that your standards aren't in their best interests. Not really rational to malign society or women for that 🤷🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:35 PM
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No one has to "validate" standards in the first place is my entire point. They exist and you can have whatever standards you want. What other people think has fuck all to do with your ability to filter for people who meet your standards and reject people who don't. There's no "standards police" who are going to hold you at gunpoint and make you date people outside of your standards. You are arguing about the enforcement of something that is ultimately completely meaningless and inconsequential. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:33 PM
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What I already said. Generic npc rectangle thin plastic/metal frames. Avoid any variation of that theme. Go larger and/or experiment with different shapes. Square, circle, etc. Try a bold color, or even frameless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:09 PM
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Well I can't help you there either bud, I'm a rando on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:00 PM
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How they are received is a different conversation than whether they are "valid" or not. There's no such thing as "valid" or "invalid" standards. I also have no idea what "equal consideration" even looks like as it applies to this topic. No one has to "consider" your standards except you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:57 PM
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I don't have a "favorite type in general for most men." It depends on exactly what I've already said. Wherever you get them from has people who are specifically supposed to help you get frames that work for your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:55 PM
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It depends on the guy. His face/eye shape, proportions, and style. But those glasses are flattering to no one
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:46 PM
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Lmao imagine telling a woman she can't like animal rescue content or comedian content because the creator is a man No such thing as "valid" or "invalid" standards. They are what they are. People are going to have their opinions about you regardless of "validity" based on what they are though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:31 PM
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Your explanation doesn't make any sense. Pretending that sexual dimorphism doesn't have any impact on attractiveness doesn't do anything close to what you're claiming it does. And there are much better, more direct and clearer ways to make the point you're trying to say they mean other than "sexual dimorphism doesn't impact looks."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:28 AM
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Yes, I'm close friends with one and it's absolutely fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:25 AM
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It is according to boy math lmao. Which we witness on this sub constantly
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:06 PM
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I've long been remarking about this incoherence within this framing. Sexual dimorphism makes the idea of 1-to-1 "matches" fundamentally incoherent, even if you try to use "percentile rankings." A short woman's "match" isn't an equally short man, even proportionally. An overweight woman's "match" isn't necessarily an equally overweight man due to weight distribution. Neoteny is desirable in women and undesirable in men. Musculature and height doesn't have the same buff across sexes. If you want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:06 PM
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My reply was an observation about the reasoning men themselves provided for their answers. It was directly on topic. If a desire to fuck another person within a relationship means that a woman has "irreconcilably lost attraction" to her partner then there's virtually no men who have ever had attraction to their partners to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:48 AM
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Good luck ever getting them to concede this. They're too attached to their "pussy tingles" victim-blaming
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:47 AM
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Once again, I'm being strawmanned because y'all can't actually argue my point. Men have a problem with all of it, and they're hypocritical for all of it. Whether it's "acknowledging attractive men exist," lusting after those men, or wanting to sleep with those men - men do the same things and yet any degree of the same behavior in women is absolutely considered unacceptable and threatening. The replies to legitimate-way confirm this, as does everything I've already observed wrt men's jealousy an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:53 AM
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It's not a fantasy that men want to fuck other women, even when they're in a committed relationship. It's so weird how men only admit this when they want to taunt women but when a woman repeats it back they deny it. The problem obviously is women being attracted to men who aren't her partner, as the replies to legitimate-way and my previous observations have already noted. Women are only supposed to have eyes for their partner and anything else is treated as some sort of existential threat to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:29 AM
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This is implying that the only thing holding you back from accepting is the idea she'd also fuck other people. Men don't truly desire monogamy, and they are regularly attracted to and fantasize about fucking other women. Most of the men on this sub seethe with jealousy over Chad pumping and dumping and take out their feelings on women instead, endlessly insulting and attacking us for being sexually attracted to sexually attractive men and claiming Instagram makes us delusional and sex with attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:10 AM
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Attraction to someone is attraction to someone. Wanting to fuck someone else is wanting to fuck someone else. IDK why men pretend like ability makes a difference here. Fact is, if men could, they would, same as women. I never said watching porn is cheating. That's a strawman. What I said very plainly and directly is that it's obviously attraction to other people. Men watch porn and they fantasize about fucking those women. Men watch hot naked women daily, almost invariably hotter than their actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:59 AM
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Nah, they can't handle women finding other men attractive at all. Hence all the insecurity and paranoia around monkey branching etc. There's literally a guy who said she's "irrevocably lost attraction" just for having interest in fucking another guy. Men never lose the desire to fuck other women - does that mean they can never be attracted to their partners? Should all women internalize that they're "not enough" when their partners watch porn? It's a double-standard. I'm just calling it out caus…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:35 AM
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The answers to this are hilarious. These dudes almost certainly jack off to fucking other women on the daily but a woman finding another man attractive is breakup worthy. As if if she came to them and said "hey babe you're free to fuck other women" they wouldn't jump at the chance 🤣 I can't take men seriously. Apparently women can only be attracted to one man at a time lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:25 AM
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This incel anthem came out in 1995, but we're all still supposed to believe women have been deceiving men about looks until dating apps lmao. Soooo much mogging going on in that video 🤣 Y'all have always known the traits of conventional attractiveness for men. Periodt.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:33 AM
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Two things can be true at once. I do think men generally want kids more than women. The cost/benefit analysis works far more in their favor for it, and they seem far more predisposed to the narcissism inherent to "legacy" desires. I only ever see men trying to clap back at childfree women about "bloodlines." There's also far more men willing to permanently tie themselves to a woman by having children with her, but recoil at the "investment" and "commitment" of marriage. Generally I find most peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:28 AM
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The comments 🤣😭 And like I keep saying, those ugly default NPC glasses are nerfing tf out of soooo many men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:15 AM
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Live footage of me after a sexually forward guy respects my "no" <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:19 PM
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Yes. But also, being attracted to a man is the same as not seeing him as a human being. Because title Having conditions for dating consideration is dehumanizing doncha know. You should treat all men as equal options, interchangeable with each other and have zero personal preferences or deal-breakers. That's the only way to not objectify or dehumanize men It's just makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:01 PM
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Ah, my b. Well I guess in a way you have "earned" it lol. Oysters etc. are an interesting thing. Is it okay to kill what doesn't feel pain? Of course not, but it's also a matter of what you consider "harm" or "suffering." Or even "alive." Plants are alive but don't feel pain. What's the meaningful difference between them and an oyster besides taxonomy? We can't actually know for sure that oysters don't feel pain anyway. There aren't really good vegan arguments for their consumption that I've eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:14 PM
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Lanternflies don't bite fam. I'm okay with a mosquito genocide though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:03 PM
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I think it's a matter of the distance we put between ourselves and our food. The sanitization of what meat is. Even the word is objectifying - meat isn't living. Meat has no feelings or consciousness. Animals do. But packaged up and dyed, you don't really see animals. Seafood, of course, is a bit different. We see their glassy eyes and it's normal. I think we view seafood as animals due to presentation, but lacking in sentience. Very little difference externally between a living crab and a dead …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:00 PM
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What's even more fucked up is that I'm vegan(ish?), but even that is debatable. I do kill insects in my house. Not 100% if it's reasonable I can relocate them, and I try to give flies a chance to fly back out the door, but still. I still feed my dog animal products. There's a real discussion to be had about harm minimization, convenience, and practicality. Meat and dairy relies on a metric shitton of subsidies to be as affordable as it is, even though that's also decreasing. I also recognize tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:37 PM
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I feel like there were always going to be too many of them though. By the time they are in multiple states, they outnumber us so severely that it'd take a chemical solution or ecological disruption to stop them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:51 PM
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I'm drinking coffee on my back porch and there's an immature spotted lantern fly on the table. I didn't feel the need to squish it. I was more curious about whatever happened to that whole hysteria in the first place. I googled "should you still kill spotted lanternflies" and curiously enough, the overwhelming majority of articles are two years old. It was pretty difficult to find new information. It was such an intense panic for awhile, but now... nothing? I found this article as the most recen…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:44 PM
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No, but I can appreciate him working with what he has. His face/eyes remind me a bit of Lalo Salamanca/Tony Dalton.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:37 PM
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How is "society responsible" for women not finding a man desirable? Because if a man is sexually desirable then the proof would be him having sex. You can't liken this to poverty because the money doesn't have the autonomy to choose or refuse you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:06 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:22 PM
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You can't disagree about the definition of a word. You're just wrong. The desire to alter the appearance of a body isn't an eating disorder. Mental illnesses are not "tactics." You don't understand the meaning of words.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:00 PM
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Also incorrect. Mental illness is not a "tactic" by definition anymore than physical illness can be a "tactic."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:57 PM
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EDs aren't "tactics," they're mental illnesses and AN has the highest mortality rate of all mental illnesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:51 PM
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The majority nor plurality of relationships have never, nor currently, start from cold approaches; dick spamming; or other indiscriminate "harassment." I once again don't understand where this narrative started, but I wish it would die.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:01 AM
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So fun story, I have a close friend who is part of the .01% through her family (land/property developer dad). She and her siblings all have trusts. She's in her mid-30s, married with a kid. Her husband had his college paid for by grants and a loan from his parents, which they told him certain conditions of repayment that he adhered too. However, when she was pregnant, her in-laws told her husband they needed the balance of the loan repaid in full ASAP to use towards building a new house 🫠 This i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:43 PM
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And yet, when the consequences of such communication styles are spelled out in black and white, men still flail about trying to blame women for the perceptions of men's poor interpersonal desirability. Isn't that funny? I also have an ungodly amount of men who are eternally triggered by my tone and who can't help but make replies that do nothing more than let me know just how much they don't like how I said things. Isn't that funny? It definitely says to me that there are absolutely gendered dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:21 PM
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I have no idea what it is you're arguing with me about honestly. My point is very simple, direct, and focused in scope. It is not broadly about "traditional masculinity." It is not about dating. It is not about what is or isn't "beneficial to women." It is not saying men should do anything. It is not saying men shouldn't do anything. It is not making moral claims to anything or about anyone. It is making a specific point in response to a specific point of the OP. The OP implies that "protection"…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:24 AM
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My point wasn't about "traditional masculinity," it was about the specific points of "protection" that men themselves love claiming directly in response to OP's post. A post, please note, that included such questions like Why am expected to step up and destroy my standing in my workplace for people who expect me to ideally take violence to misogynists?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:06 AM
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This has nothing to do with my comment. I don't understand what it is tonight but no one can stay on topic to save their life
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:59 AM
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Dude I don't care about soldiers. Period. It's off-topic. Soldiers =/= men, and men =/= soldiers. When men make claims about how they are "protectors," they are referring to men in general. Not "soldiers." Men are responsible for the mixed messages because of what they say. This is an observation. This is not "assigning responsibility," this is not "assigning blame," this is an observation. If someone said "I set the toy on fire," me saying "they set the toy on fire" is not blaming them, it is r…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:52 AM
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I have no idea why I would care about your "questioning." That's great, you disagree. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:48 AM
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Okay? I still said what I said. If you have a problem with it I really don't care dude
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:43 AM
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No, it's an incel take. Fatalistic to the point of delusion, like all black-pillers. It's no less delusional than "Chadsexual."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:40 AM
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I was just responding to your meme, idk why you took it so personally, we weren't debating. Neither was it about the OP. 🫩 Sure dude. And I was just responding to your response. Where did I "take it personally," specifically? Quote it please. Its very telling that you're blaming men as a whole as if they're a monolith. I wasn't blaming women, I even mentioned there are different sides and groups. I'm not "blaming" anyone for anything by observing what men say and do. I do believe we have innate …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:46 AM
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And another one
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:02 AM
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Non sequitur
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:59 AM
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Men themselves are responsible for the mixed messages. "Leaders, protectors and providers" when they want to bleat about submission and sexual service. Sudden egalitarianism when it comes to putting their money where their mouths are. I don't agree with this idea that men are mostly "told" these things and that's why they think they have to do that. Men think these things are their biologically ordained imperatives all on their own. They literally can't envision a world or purpose outside of of …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:58 AM
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Men themselves present these things as a function of their sex. What women say or identify as has nothing to do with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:47 AM
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Where do you get your information about western dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:59 AM
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You don't have to personally claim it. It's stolen valor anyway. I'm well aware that the overwhelming majority of men are neither. I'm making a joke about why those "feminists/progressives" think they have a leg to stand on when they form such expectations. So maybe your fellow men could stop giving them this false hope, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:46 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:37 AM
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Honestly I find the fact that both sides complain about the moderation to be a sign it's probably fairer than we think lol. I think it's habit to notice it more when "your side" is targeted. I do agree that I don't think this is a valid pilled topic though. It clearly has its origins on incel subs. Neither red nor blue pill argues that heterosexual women aren't actually straight. It's a black-pilled take.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:19 AM
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They've already said they won't. It's been deemed a valid topic. Best hope is that these posts start getting deleted as spam/overdone topics. We don't need a variation on a theme every single day for weeks on end. Maybe allow one post to get through weekly and delete the rest no matter what "creative angle" they try to take
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:13 AM
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Yep. This dude was recently killed in a hit-and-run at 28. Sure sad etc. but also he had FOUR KIDS and a pregnant girlfriend. Dude was swinging dick everywhere for a decade and women just let him. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:03 AM
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Interest on what? this interest comes with expectations Are you asking what a swipe on a dating app indicates interest in?? Do you know how dating apps work? There's no "expectation," it's the equivalent of making eye contact at a bar or something. "Hey, you caught my attention." When someone sends in an application for a job, do you similarly claim that means they "expect" that job or feel "entitled" to that job? It means they are interested in that job. It doesn't mean they have "expectations"…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:34 PM
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Yeah, that ain't it either boss It's a swipe. It expresses initial preliminary interest. No more, no less. Not "demands," not "expectations," not "entitlement," none of that. Interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:36 PM
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Swipes are not "demands."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:22 PM
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Yeah, this is why people probably shouldn't try to speak to demographics they're not a part of. They end up using the equivalent of pop stars to make their observations rather than lived, realized experience and contextualized history. Megan and Cardi are the equivalent of the Jezebel stereotype. That's not "hyper-feminine." It's actually a rather masculine expression of sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:24 PM
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College-educated black men from middle-class backgrounds have their pick of the litter. This is pretty clear to anyone who is actually black. There's very little "hyper-feminine" about "hood" femininity. This is also pretty clear to anyone who is actually black. Hood chicks are pretty noticeably tilted towards the masculine end of gender norms, to the point of stereotypes and tropes. There are no damsels in distress or soft life living in the hood, and that's usually through a combination of soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:28 PM
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Anyone remember this banger <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:30 PM
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This is driving me absolutely insane, it doesn't seem like anything has stayed the same size
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:00 PM
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I was thinking earlier about making a joke in the daily that we are on a record stretch for no "women aren't straight" posts, and look what shows up right on time! Hallelujah
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:31 AM
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More unrealistic body standards for women 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:24 PM
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Allow me ::clears throat:: It doesn't count unless she got with him in her peak and had casual sex with him. Sometimes they also add the condition she has to be thin or pretty. Also if he is still taller than her that's still hypergamy. Also if she's had taller partners before then that's still her real type. Also if he's still stronger than her that's still hypergamy. We'll also need to know how quickly they slept together before the council will rule on if this counts as inspirational or if he…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:19 PM
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I mean... the shoe fits though 🤷🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:29 PM
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CMV: Golden Retrievers are the simps of the canine world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:59 PM
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It's once every 12 hours now 🫠
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:23 AM
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I'm just gonna brush over how this comment implies a cause and effect relationship to a woman's action and whether she'll be attacked😬😬 No, I didn't "imply a cause and effect," I observed how the male ego responds to direct rejection from women. As plenty of dead women can attest to 😀 But is this assertion backed by any statistics? Is what "assertion" "backed by statistics?" Where were the "statistics" in your OP that have already conceded this??? I don't have trouble understanding why men are d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:54 AM
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It seems like a couple of men are trying to argue that women should be open to those experiences, because a man's feelings from being ghosted are worse lmao It's almost like they think women deserve to be punching bags as penance for rejecting a man. But that would be craaaazyy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:24 AM
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Yeah, you don't get to play this card, sorry. You still haven't responded to my last comment. Not gonna care about your posturing about "avoiding answering" shit lmao, here you are involving yourself in a completely different comment chain rather than continuing what you ran away from. Embarrassing man ✌🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:11 AM
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... I know exactly who I was replying to dude 😭🤣 Good lord, it's not too late to delete this 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:47 AM
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Literally not
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:34 AM
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You still haven't specified how women need to be "attacked" so that the "dating system" will be fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:31 AM
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You blamed Reddit for the entire dating landscape.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:20 AM
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You haven't been specific at all here. Seems to me you created this post without too much of an actual argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:19 AM
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Did you not read your own second paragraph? Apparently the entire reason women have "insane egos" and "no introspection" which has "badly damaged the dating field" is because "Reddit is a leftist echo chamber" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:19 AM
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If Reddit had as much power over collective society as you claim, we wouldn't have the White House we have. What "attacks" do women need that will invariably "fix the dating system?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:14 AM
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You allegedly understand the male ego from your OP, then you feign confusion why it might be safer to give an ambiguous rather than a hard no. Most male violence in these situations doesn't happen due to "ghosting," it happens due to direct refusal. Female communication has evolved around indirectness directly in response to male hostility at directedness. There's a reason why the sub is r/whenwomenREFUSE, not r/whenwomenghost. Once again, you allegedly already know about male nature from your O…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:20 AM
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I don't care for your unofficial jannying. I've said what I wanted to say. Your feelings about that are yours to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:00 AM
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I'm not "shaming you," good lord. I'm observing from your own words what you've already been told and what you think about what you've already been told. If you don't accept women's answers "at face value" and instead prefer to stick to your own beliefs and assumptions, then again what the fuck is the point of engaging you with this post? It's clearly a complete waste of our time and energy, because anything we say that doesn't align with what you've already stated you prefer to believe instead …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:59 AM
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You've already been given answers, as your OP has already noted. You firmly reject them in lieu of substituting your own thoughts and reality. Engaging with this post is a pointless exercise. What you have a "hard time believing" has nothing to do with anything. Clearly our words are not enough to convince you, so why waste our time with more of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:28 AM
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Seems like you've already made up your mind in the post, so women answering is extremely unlikely to result in productive dialogue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:09 AM
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Most likely to kill you is your spouse Most likely to kill children are the parents Maybe just cut the "protection" shit out altogether, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:48 PM
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Decent men around you behaving because of legal consequences outnumber indecent men around you that don't abide by the law, causing network of safety around you. You are agreeing with my OC: I'm not under the protection "of men," I'm under the protection of specific men and women. And they are paid for it. It is the law and enforcement that creates this "network of safety," not men merely existing near me. I'm not "protected as collateral," I'm directly protected due to the enforcement of these …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:02 PM
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This is unhinged. There's no such dichotomy of "decent, honorable men" and "violent rapists etc." All men behave because of law enforcement. Those "decent men" aren't protecting me, all men behave because of legal consequences for not. That is due to the protection of specific men and specific women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:59 PM
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I'm not under the protection "of men," I'm under the protection of specific men and women. And they are paid for it. It has nothing to do with "proximity of men."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:55 PM
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What are you on about? No one is talking about "standing behind armies," the idea is that men claim they are "protectors" and using that as justification for all kinds of entitlements but now trying to argue they shouldn't actually have to put their money where their mouths are. Merely standing next to a woman obviously isn't sufficient "protection" if the scenarios in the OP still happen? What would a dude have to "run away" from if his mere presence was so discouraging? I never said shit about…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:44 PM
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Oh, the "that never happens" response with a bunch of whataboutism to claims I never made Not interested, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:30 PM
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Great! So men will stop calling themselves "protectors" and using their "protection" as justification for why women owe them sex, relationships and reproduction. Right? I really need for y'all to make up your fucking minds. I don't care if a man runs away and I don't expect anyone to intervene for me, male or female. But I do expect logical consistency. Men need to disband their protection racket mindset if they don't actually feel obligated to protect.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:23 PM
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okay, if he let other women peg him No, it's about what the previous boyfriend wanted her to do. Once again, you can't be consistent. The entire basis of your argument is the woman's past, so whatever a woman has done she needs to do with you. So if a woman has pegged a previous boyfriend because that boyfriend wanted her to peg him, then she must peg you too. It's literally no different than men saying if a woman had anal or a threesome with a previous boyfriend then she needs to have anal or t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:28 PM
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if she pegged her previous bofriend and she wants to peg him too. but he doesnt. she should leave to find someone that will do that. No, this isn't about what she wants. Now you're just hamstering. I have no idea why you'd assume this is all of a sudden something she wanted instead of the man. This is about "getting what other men got" because "the best treatment." I'm not the one "shifting the argument," you just can't be logically consistent. If it's what the man wants then he'd want it regard…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:05 AM
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Once again, she's relaying an observation of cause-and-effect. When I say "when my ear itches, I scratch it" I'm not "arriving at a conclusion" either. I'm observing the relationship between the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:58 AM
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She doesn't "arrive at a conclusion," she simply responds in this way because of cause-and-effect. It's not some calculated response dude. Sarai was just observing on the cause-and-effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:50 AM
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The relationship itself. A woman will be more willing to be sexually experimental in a relationship where she feels safe and not judged than in a relationship where she'd feel the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:42 AM
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What she said is a very blue-pilled take. You projected a "comparison to her past" that she never actually made
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:36 AM
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"Higher standards" = "I don't care that I'm getting what I want, I can't be happy unless I got what other men got as well even if I don't want it" lmao "The Logical, Rational Sex™" So if she pegged a previous boyfriend she has to peg you too, right?? "Le higher standards" and all, because it's not about what you like and want, it's about getting every single thing some other dude got. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:34 AM
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Ecactlyyy. so again, he cant leave something he doesnt know is lesser experience, because he isnt getting sex early. No, the idea that "getting sex early" is the only barometer of true attraction can be known and understood before ever having a relationship, or even going on a date. You have yet to explain how this is a concept that is gatekept behind having a relationship with someone. He doesnt KNOW, hes getting a lesser experience, after hes put his money and time in, which is already a yello…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:18 AM
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okaayy Yall "engage" early with a small group of men. If he's not those men then why would he be treated like those men? Irrationality on men's part. You missed my point. If a men are still paying for most of these dates. and if he is. he needs to find out if a woman completly desires him, not for safety after her fun years. My posts is just one aspect of many such situations. Your post is complaining about men being vilified for leaving relationships with women they don't think are sexually att…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:19 AM
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Women don't "give out" sex at all. We engage in it. If men paying for dates is supposed to have a relationship to "giving out sex as early as possible" then these men should stop bothering women for relationships and just engage with sugar babies. He cant leave something he doesnt know is a lesser experience He can't know this before he decides to have a relationship with her?? Only after? Why does it only occur to him to use his big boy words and interrogate a woman about what she did with prev…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:06 AM
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Why did these men enter these relationships in the first place instead of choosing better? He wouldn't have to "leave" if he didn't think what he was getting was sufficient for a relationship to start
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:56 AM
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It seems pretty obvious to me based on what they say about women and all the "easy mode" claims that the only experiences they think damage people are within the context of sexual relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:10 PM
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Yeah but like who cares what they think though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:03 PM
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Yeah probably not a great combo but it really depends on the club and crowd vibe. Some clubs are more opening and accepting than others. Reviews probably could help guide you if you were really interested. Avoid ones that mention cliquishness lol Or even better, find a girlfriend to go with
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:36 AM
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The "men built society" and related narratives prove how "housewives" are valued. It's not about "criticizing their choice." Women can plainly see how these women's contributions are completely negated by society, and men especially ("blah blah blah why should women get half of my shit?"). Housewives are considered to have contributed nothing and accomplished nothing so they deserve nothing. Only men have ever done work that matters in creating society and keeping it going. It's interesting how …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:48 AM
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You provided no "stats" about "for funsies" abortions, sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:39 AM
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its been proven that they use abortion as contraception The literal definition of "contraception" is for the prevention of a pregnancy. You can't use an abortion "as contraception" by definition. You can't "terminate a pregnancy" in order to prevent a pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:03 AM
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Yeah that dynamic would be really off-putting to me tbh. Was that an actual swingers/"lifestyle" club though?? All the ones near me either completely prohibit or severely restrict single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:03 PM
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Is there a link to a a clip of a woman on this show being told she's a "queen" and "knows her worth" directly in response to stating a preference? Every time I read a man making claims like this I can't help but think they're all just echoing what they've seen other men say rather than actually speaking to something they've actually witnessed. It doesn't even make any sense contextually. I really think this is more of a caricature men have made up than something that actually happens
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:46 PM
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Nah, it's 'saright lol. Thanks for helping anyway 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:26 PM
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You are the only one to get the joke lol. I've upvoted everyone but I almost feel badly they're trying to help me and I was just making a dumb joke 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:15 PM
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Q4 fitness people: How much weight could I lose on the hedonistic hedonic treadmill, realistically? Let's say I use it for an hour a day, 5x a week. TIA!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:04 PM
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Definitely entertaining man. There were a couple locally and one was a bit more "down to earth" so to speak than the other but it's since closed. It had friendlier people and there were some attractive people but also a fair number of carnie types. I've been to the other one a couple of times and I guess it's "classier" wrt the dress and presentation maybe but it's more of the traditional "swinger" crowd - trophy wives, unattractive husbands, super Republican vibes. Neither are particularly dive…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:50 PM
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Google probably? I honestly can't even remember why I got into it to begin with. I'm pretty nudist overall but I don't remember specifically what made me become interested in these clubs. Best guess is I liked the idea of (legal, consensual) public sex. Which never even happened cause once my boyfriend saw the pool table show his dick was done for lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:44 PM
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It would have been such an easy win. But I decided that was my b for bringing such a hot piece of ass to the club 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:30 PM
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"It's okay that our 3-year-old spilled his cereal onto the floor babe. The housekeeper will be by in 10 days to get that right up!" ::sound of crunching as he walks away, trekking cereal and milk crumbs through the family room carpet::
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:27 PM
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Curious what you think about men who don't pay child support due to various maneuvers (moving out of country, underemployment, lying about/hiding income, etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:16 PM
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I'm about to be even more confusing. My original comment was me being tongue-in-cheek lmao As was the second reply 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 08:58 PM
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No, I meant stable. I'm a bastion of reason and normalcy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:19 PM
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Back in the day (a la pre-Covid) I used to go to Swinger's Clubs. I never had sex with anyone there though lmao I just liked being naked and people-watching. It's a fun dynamic. My ex went with me once after months of begging him to go with me and he got grinded on by this actual little person when we were outside on the smoker's patio 😭 and I played along but really I wanted to stab her, cause I'm mentally stable. We went inside and I went to use the bathroom while he was subjected to this alar…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 05:04 PM
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Because if men cum a vast majority of the time with other men And if women cum the vast majority of the time with other women And men cum the vast majority of the time with women But women don't cum the vast majority of the time with men Then the variable here is men, not women. Specifically heterosexual men. Ideally both parties care and have a hand in each other's pleasure Right, but that "ideal" depends on both parties caring as you pointed out. Which straight men have very loudly declared is…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:19 AM
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Can't confirm or deny without seeing the comments in reference and your history is hidden 🤷🏿 I do see women here make comments I disagree with just like men. I don't always engage with everything I disagree with, but I don't think it's based on gender except incidentally. I think men tend to make more unequivocal unnuanced absolutist statements about women more, but they also are a significant majority of regular active participants on this sub. I think the last comment I read by a woman I disag…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:40 AM
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I don't see men making the exact same claim. I see them almost invariably presenting the idea that women are pickier with criticism and hate, and also frequently making claims as to how picky we "should" be like that's up to them to determine for us, or like male sexuality is the "default," "correct," or only "valid" sexuality. That's been coming up a ton lately with the recent "women aren't straight" spam. There's also a lot of blame on this sub for female biology where there's attempts to pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:11 AM
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You didn't Right, so your reply is a non-sequitur
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:19 PM
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Where did I make claims as to a proportionality of occurrence?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:15 PM
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That's not "the issue" I'm talking about. If you want to make a different point, make your own top-level comment instead of hijacking mine with a non-sequitur
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:14 PM
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Wrong as usual
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:12 PM
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My point isn't about "sexual selection." It's about the presented stance that men's biology somehow makes them more moral than women's biology. It doesn't. Both are morally neutral. You don't have as many standards for your cum receptacle. That's not moral virtue. Women have higher standards to receive cum. That's not moral deficiency. Both positions are equally logical given the risks/benefits that pertain to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 08:32 PM
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Weekly reminder that women's higher looks threshold and narrowed flexibility is a result of sexual selection and failing to meet them thus not being able to attract them is not a moral failure. biology 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 08:12 PM
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Bi-weekly reminder that men's flexibility and lower standards for looks thresholds are a result of biology, not moral virtue or better character 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:44 PM
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You didn’t point out a logical inconsistency, you just kept redefining “chosen” as total control over all outcomes I did no such thing. Your OP made no distinction about "total control over all outcomes" and neither did I. My rebuttal was very simple and the only way you are able to engage it is by trying to make up all of this extra shit I never once said. Your OP was very simply "women choose, men chosen" and then "but also if women aren't chosen, biggest losers." Direct contradiction. Simple …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:10 AM
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I didn't make an argument. I pointed out the logical inconsistency in yours. In response, you changed your argument. So your thesis is wrong, thanks for the answer!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:59 AM
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Destroying the core of your argument wasn't "semantics," half your post is this dichotomous setup of "chosen men" and "choosing women." Make better arguments next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:53 AM
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As part of your thesis you claim women are the selectors, which directly contradicts your title. Women can't be "unchosen" if women do the choosing. Women can only refrain from choosing anyone. Because, as you said, "men compete and women filter." Yet you then turn around and try to assert women who aren't "chosen" are the biggest losers. Your post is fundamentally incoherent, or your thesis is wrong. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:45 AM
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I think this is more or less pretty accurate for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 01:54 PM
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That's nice. Good men are good because it's the right thing to do. Their "benefit" is moral integrity and consistency, not "well now you have to help me out too." You are free to believe otherwise. Doesn't affect my position a bit. I don't care if men want to have these attitudes, but I'm not going to call them good for it. Idk why I should need to. I'll give you an example. Over the last week, I've spent ~$300 on a woman and her animals because she lost her job unexpectedly and didn't have enou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 01:51 AM
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You know simply putting a disclaimer in the OP isn't some kind of magical spell that prevents your comments from saying exactly what you said you're not saying, right? That's not how reality works lmao Clearly your only angle to "helping men" is women fucking more men cause "sex is a need." Your brilliant solutions in the comments are government sponsored prostitutes and also talking away social safety nets and also making women work hard labor. You have yet to explain wtf those last two things …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 01:34 AM
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How will any of those things result in more sex and relationships for undesirable men, specifically? Walk me through your logic here where forcing women to work "hard laborious jobs" and taking away "safety nets" results in wetter dicks
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 01:32 AM
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Yes, having to fuck men you don't want to fuck to "not be selfish" is right on par with the right to vote and have housing and be educated No emotional blackmail or coercion here from "good guys," no siree
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 01:24 AM
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Thank you for your concession there are no good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 01:23 AM
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Seems like you have no understanding of what a good person is. Good people aren't good for good boy biscuits. Good people do not engage in covert contracts. I reiterate no men are good by your own framing. You can own up to that or not. Nothing about this is about talking about whether they have "the right" to do whatever the fuck, it is about your incoherent claim that "good men" will allow women to be harmed or actively try to harm women based on genitalia and bitterness while still trying to …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 01:09 AM
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From reading the words of men on this sub, sex is Schroëdinger's Cat. When it comes time to try to manipulate women, it's a "need." When men talk about their own desires, it's a (meaningless) nut. When it comes time to emotionally blackmail women about "burning down villages to feel warmth," it's a need. When it comes time to deride and chastise women for being delusional about Chad's pump and dumps, it's a nut. When talking about "muh birth rates," it's a need. When talking about cheating rates…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 12:59 AM
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Unjustified crashout imo Derision isn't a "crash out" You guys have no argument. You consistently don't ever read what I say for comprehension, you just substitute what I say with whatever thoughts are in your head and vomit whatever back at me based on that I'm not reading anything else. You already got far more of a response than you deserved for continuing to waste my time
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 11:42 PM
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It's hard to come to terms with how much of an old I am man I also think part of it is that my sense of humor doesn't always convey in a written medium due to loss of tone context
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 10:00 PM
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What I said, verbatim: Men's genetics have a larger role than women's genetics in attractiveness, so the floor to meet "attractive" is higher for men than women. What men say: "Har har you said GENETICS!!! That means blackpill blackpill inkwell blackpill 🤪😜🤪😜🤪😜🤪😜🤪😜 I can't read context for shit, I don't understand relative comparisons, I just see my trigger word and project my own retardedness onto whatever you actually said!! 😜🤪😜🤪😜 blackpill blackpill inkwell blackpill inkwell you're BLACKPILL …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 09:35 PM
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What reasons would I have as an adult woman to think about 1-3? Yeah, that's my point lol The entire comment is in jest because of these frequent "Q4W" posts
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 09:20 PM
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Q4W: How often do you think about the following situations: how hard it is for a man to approach women how embarrassing random puberty boners are for men how often a man's balls get stuck to his thigh what a man is going to eat for breakfast what a man wants what a man needs whatever makes him happy sets him free
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 08:01 PM
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Nothing I said was "iNkWeLl," and I'm tired of these ridiculous accusations. Men's inability/refusal to understand or perceive nuance is not "blackpill beliefs" on my part. Anyone who wants to waste my time with such nonsense will be ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 07:51 PM
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Merely existing with a "look" isn't enough to cultivate any kind of interest, because I'm not a man. I don't care than men exist with a "look." That doesn't mean anything at all to me. It's just a strong preference for attraction if I wanted to fuck or date a man, which I have zero interest in based on the comments of random Redditors. It's truly bizarre that you don't get that. Nothing about the comment you replied to was an invitation to be hit on. Nothing about my comment indicated I was look…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 07:18 PM
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I think the fact that "average looking" is so informed by our local population perception that it's kind of a meaningless term when used online. "Average looking" in one area might be "above average looking" in another part of the region/world or "below-average looking." I also think the idea of "matches" based on "lining people up" is fundamentally flawed. Men's genetics have a larger role than women's genetics in attractiveness, so the floor to meet "attractive" is higher for men than women. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 07:13 PM
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There's a lot of guys who have a Jewish look. Tens of millions even. Why is that supposed to be compelling to me? I'm not a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 07:02 PM
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😭 I already know my dog is a coward. She might surprise me but it's okay, I'd prefer her to hide while I fight anyway rather than risk her being injured or worse lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 06:50 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 06:44 PM
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I have no idea what they say now but when I made my comment each one was wildly off base. They didn't say "behavior doesn't matter," they literally weren't remotely in the same arena of coming close to making an accurate explanation at all. It was all bizarre conspiracies or just completely off target, like they'd never read or heard a single woman describe her attraction before and were just wildly speculating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:32 PM
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I went into why I made the post here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:26 PM
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Why? What relevance does that have to anything I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:23 PM
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Because female arousal is more contextual and holistic. It's why we don't have gloryholes and why written erotica is more popular for us than porn. How a man behaves is a large part of what makes him attractive. Why would some bumbling weirdo be sexually attractive to us, behaviorally? It's also so bizarre how completely far off the mark all the male automod replies are. I thought this was all obvious and well-known information, so much so that I still don't believe this post isn't sea-lioning. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 08:48 AM
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If you don't see the contemptuous tone of the OC then we can again agree to disagree. It should. And when women are upset that man don't commit after sex I completely undestdand why. Don't you? Should we shame those men or tell women to shut up because they aren't owed anything? You are avoiding conceding the point. Men are trying to talk out of both sides of their mouths. This isn't about women, this is about men. Women aren't the ones complaining about men having sex with other people during t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 08:00 AM
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Where do you see rage at women? All i see is sadness and dissapointment. Not everything is an attack on women's freedom. ... did you read the OC? What's wrong with an unpartnered woman having sex? Men are the loudest people taunting women about how "no one is owed a relationship." Shouldn't that go both ways? If you don't see a double-standard here then agree to disagree. Logically, it makes sense to hold women accountable for sexual exclusivity when they have agreed to be sexually exclusive. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 07:33 AM
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None of that is an excuse for mens' double-standards and irrationally resenting women for not adhering to sexual exclusivity that was never agreed upon in the first place If a woman doesn't want to agree to sexual exclusivity to someone she's not even in a relationship with, then she's incompatible. You don't get to blame her for your unwillingness to make this a deal-breaker. There are women who are aligned with this idea that if you're dating someone, it's disrespectful to have sex with others…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 06:43 AM
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Not really addressing what I said Where's the "consistency?" Why can't men use their big boy words here and speak plainly to their expectations up front, instead of expecting women to mind-read their claim to sexual ownership with people they're not even in a relationship with?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 06:30 AM
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Men complain on this sub constantly about the "unspoken expectations" of dating dynamics, insisting everything needs to always autistically be communicated and spelled out to the t no matter what And then think women are bad for not mind-reading his demands for sexual exclusivity when they're not even partnered Make it make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 06:19 AM
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I've always known who was physically attractive to me since kindergarten. I can think back and still find them all cute/good-looking at those ages, even though some aged poorly. I've lived in a variety of demographics. "What's available" has never affected who or what I find attractive. Putting me in an area with fewer men of my types results in me not finding pretty much anyone attractive at all. I've lived for a decade in a part of town with extremely few men I find attractive and never have I…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:55 AM
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Oh my b I didn't realize I was wasting my time with a heterosexuality denier I'll be disengaging permanently, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 11:52 PM
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I have no idea what this means or is trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 11:43 PM
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Red-pillers believe in it too, they are the biggest proponent of 80/20 and moaning about "raw desire."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 11:37 PM
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There's a few of them. Definitely could be some alts cause we know how fond of that men on this sub are, but there's an infection we've gotten from the newest incel sub womenarenotintomen and the mods for whatever godforsaken reason don't deem it incel content
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 10:15 PM
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You completely ignored every word I wrote about the extent to which women can encounter men outside of dating. It doesn't require an "aSsUmPtIoN oF fIsHiNg" to be catcalled, molested, harrassed, stalked, or bullied. It also doesn't require that to read what men say online and observe the crimes they commit. It doesn't require assumptions to be victims of those crimes. It doesn't require assumptions to know people who have been victims of those things either. Doesn't require assumptions to watch …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:38 PM
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Like I said, incoherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:30 PM
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This is an incoherent reply. In your completely unrealistic scenario, the only way it make sense is if women are completely isolated from men and knowledge of men completely with the specific exception of dating. The teachers I mentioned are just one example of multiple ways women regularly encounter men outside of dating. How's about the entire internet? Are women supposed to be asking millions of people who make comments "if they fish?" You can't mix your incoherent scenario with my observatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:28 PM
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::edit:: OP for posterity This only works if you assume the only experience women have with men their entire lives is within the context of dating. And they don't have access to the internet, news, any male relatives and teachers and neighbors and babysitters and clergymen or even delivery truck drivers, etc. They couldn't have any knowledge of any history or religion involving men. They couldn't ever read books written by men, listen to music made by men, etc. Essentially women would have to ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:22 PM
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Seems like you didn't internalize anything I said. You just repeated what has already been addressed. There is no official panel or authority that is imbued with the objective ability to declare emotions "justified." It's a matter of opinion. So someone else's opinion disagreeing with yours means... what, exactly? Going to change how you feel with the flip of a switch? Is that how they work? "Sanity" isn't based on whether emotions are "justified" or not. That's not what the DSM declares, nor th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 03:42 PM
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Roman Reigns, Peter Scanavino, Vidura Rajapaksa, The Dogist, Eric Benet, wrestler Rusev, Yahya Abdul-Mateen II. 90s era Michael Hutchence and Chris Cornell. A few random dudes on Instagram. Probably several others I forgot 🤷🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:18 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:01 AM
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Trigger warning: animal neglect
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:32 AM
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I don't find either attractive but they're also in two different demographics 🤷🏿 not really a great comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:25 AM
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I find the preoccupation with whether feelings are "justified" or "valid" very male-brained. Feelings are what they are. Whether or not they are "justified" is pointless to argue over because that's not how they work in the first place. People saying "no" changes nothing, they still exist. People saying "yes" also changes nothing. Despite the repeated emphatic assertions that "social approval" is for women, the obsession over whether or not others condone your feelings is literally no different.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:17 PM
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I thin​k this tracks for morbidly obese and a fair bit of obese. I don't think it tracks well for overweight, especially at the lower ends. Bone density, frame, and other factors make different weights look radically different in these categories. Even people in the average category can look "chubby and untoned" or "too skinny" at the exact same BMI depending on how they carry their weight and natural muscle density. And given the fact that it doesn't distinguish between sex, body shape, etc... …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:19 PM
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Bob, the OKC 80/20 "study" also wasn't "in person" and it's led to almost two decades now of men spiraling. Your perspective is easy to have when you won't be the one negatively impacted. Whatever the "real truth" is, men aren't going to receive it well if it's not "female sexuality is the same as men's." Which clearly it won't be. And I'm not even disagreeing with you per se, but curiously you have never really acknowledged the risks to women either way. I find that in keeping with the mentalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:50 PM
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To many men it's a distinction without a difference when it comes to using those preferences as justification to hate and oppress us. If you disagree with that then not sure what else there is to say. You have more faith in men than all written history supports, but even you yourself agree with oppressing women into replacement birth rates if the carrots don't work. And even then those carrots have to be "reasonable" according to the biologically low standards of men 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:39 PM
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That's an interestingly illogical observation from you. Now we're getting somewhere! The first two panels aren't directly related to each other. I'm simply observing a double-standard. Men demand "honesty" because "right thing to do," and simultaneously reject respecting female autonomy for that exact same reason. Hence post after post after post from men asking "well what's in it for me if I agree to not rape and oppress you???" 😠😠 Women say "because it's the right thing to do" and that reason …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:33 PM
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Why don't you take a page out of your own book and say what you honestly mean, plainly? 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:22 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:00 PM
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Lmao no they just go down the list until they find one thing that they think is desirable about him and then they use that as a "gotcha" for why the woman was still choosy beyond reason. Because the only correct choice is choosing a man who literally has nothing at all to offer a woman. "Well I bet he's making all the money doesn't he??!" "No...." "Well he has a big dick then! Right??" "No...." "Well I bet he has some kind of status." 😡😡 "I mean, he qualified for a Pokémon World Championship a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:41 PM
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(2 of 2) Bold edgy man good, red piller bad. Handsome man good, looksmaxxer bad. Tall man good, leg lengthening surgery bad. The preferences are basically being presented not as a solution, but as a wall. Guys take offense to walls. I'm sorry, are you under the impression that preferences exist to be "solutions?" Cause I'm pretty sure that's never been the point of them. So now men are stupid in addition to being hopeless retarded feckless babies, instead of "problem solvers." Preferences arise …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:29 PM
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(1 of 2) Then they should probably stop calling it shallow and creepy? Only valuing women for youth and beauty and not caring about who they are is shallow. Why would they stop calling shallowness shallow? Why wouldn't he just dump her for "aging out" of the only period of time she'll ever be attracted to her? And women are perfectly allowed to feel creeped out by creepy behavior. Even if men disagree, they are not the ultimate objective arbitrators of what is and isn't creepy to women. You are …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:25 PM
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This is like asking if men can trust women to not find them gross if they're fully honest about their sexual preferences. Realistically, no. Women aren't demanding brutal honesty from men though. For better or worse. Women crash out over men selecting based off of weight and lifestyle when those are literally personal choices instead of things decided at birth. There's no way it's a "mundane" issue by those standards. No, women are well aware since birth that men are attracted to young slim bust…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:03 AM
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Not to sound like a red-piller, but there's also stated vs revealed preferences. Both genders can have good advice for the other gender, and good advice for the same gender. People do have to be honest and self-aware though, because GIGO. On this sub I read a lot about how men love quiet submissive feminine virgin bangmaids. I don't see that's who the most desirable men respond to and choose though. And if they have the most options, why would they choose otherwise if that's what men really want…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:55 AM
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For example (and example only, none of these are intended to be statements about reality for the purpose of this post, so don't want for the discussion to get bogged down in debating these specific things vs the overall point of the post): Thank you for confirming my previous comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:37 AM
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There is a specific context to this discussion that you apparently overlooked or don't care about. It's not about being "afraid of being judged," it's about such answers inspiring violence and subjugation - even though men demand them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:14 AM
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Where can I obtain my standing ovation for my preferences please?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:24 AM
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But when there is no fault the blame then goes to the cause You write this like an inevitable logical reaction instead of an irrational emotional response. This is my point. It's not logical, and it's not justified. They don't have to be angry at anyone at all. They can be upset about the situation. Why is that never an option? Why must anger be directed outward at people who did nothing wrong? It's on men to manage their emotions. It's not on women to endure unjustified hostility and contempt b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:21 AM
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🤣😭
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:09 AM
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It's so tiring
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:08 AM
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I understand the distinction you're attempting to parse, and I still maintain that in context of the overall discussion the distinction doesn't make any sense. You started off trying to argue why men have valid reason to be angry at women for simply having female-pattern attraction. Because we're not "at fault," but we are "the cause." I argue that being angry at someone does indeed require fault for that anger to be justified. If a plane gets hit by a missile and lands on my house, the plane wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:06 AM
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Not sure what blue pillers have to do with anything. I explicitly said re: the examples: For example (and example only, none of these are intended to be statements about reality for the purpose of this post, so don't want for the discussion to get bogged down in debating these specific things vs the overall point of the post): Doesn't really seem like you had much interest in engaging with the point of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:58 PM
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"No place is completely safe all the time so you may as well not protect yourself when and how you can!" All or nothing thinking. Nice!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:56 PM
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No. Once again, that's not how action words work. Men's feelings are a result of their own entitlement to access to women. Desire is the root of all suffering, not the lack of it. It doesn't make sense to try to say "you're the cause but not at fault" if you're also trying to say it's why men have reason to be angry at women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:50 PM
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Women do not "cause" men's "grief" by existing as women. A lack of attraction is not an action being taken against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:46 PM
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I wouldn’t say most women phrase things that way, but if a woman is complaining that she can’t state her attraction and be celebrated This is another strawman. Seems like a pattern now. No one said anything about "celebrating" anything. The absence of contempt is not celebration, it is neutrality. Women are not asking to be "celebrated" for their attraction. The purpose and question of this post is specifically about the ability to provide the "honesty" men are demanding without being punished f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:44 PM
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For example (and example only, none of these are intended to be statements about reality for the purpose of this post, so don't want for the discussion to get bogged down in debating these specific things vs the overall point of the post):
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:41 PM
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I don't understand where this idea ever originated from that female and male attraction is identical. Women have been pickier than men since time immemorial. I'm also not sure why this "grief" so frequently translates to vitriol against women, as if people control what they are and aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:39 PM
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Smells like strawman spirit Do women generally phrase things we're not attracted to as a matter of "disgust?" And even if she is - walk me through logically how that means she should be hated. Let's say women disgust me sexually. Should I be hated for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:35 PM
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Men: ::makes multiple posts for years about a specific concept or phenomenon:: Men: ::makes frequent comments for years about a specific concept or phenomenon:: Men: ::gloats about how the specific concept or phenomenon is now mainstream:: Woman: ::makes a post referencing said specific concept or phenomenon discourse:: Men: OMG THAT NEVER HAPPENS ANYWHERE TOUCH GRASS YOU CHRONICALLY ONLINE MORON
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:17 PM
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So the only way in this world for a man to not be justified flirting with other women is to stop shaving/waxing; no getting your hair and nails done; no makeup or skincare (bcuz muh beautification); and to dress in I guess burlap sacks? And you think the men who pursue such women genuinely desire this? "I really want my hot wife/partner to look uglier" - said no man ever
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 10:53 PM
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L unnecessary sarcasm. I'm matching your tone, and amusingly you take offense to that. You even repeated your condescension in this very comment, yet have the audacity to act like my reply was somehow unwarranted hostility. Your entire angle was that I'm personally chronically online, and that was based on a strawman of what I said as per my post edit. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:54 PM
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What you're asking is post anything you want on the internet No, this is just how you narrowly interpreted it and you continue avoiding engaging with the point. Which, honestly is enough of an answer Nothing I said in my post indicated that I was only narrowly and exclusively referring to what is said online.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:59 PM
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Why would men "at the academic level" be any more able to handle these truths without having the reactions I described? Are they built different?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:09 PM
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So nothing I said is reality. Discussion about the birth rates and how women need to change and what women need to do to maintain them is just a figment of the internet and or my imagination. We don't have a vice president in America who talked about childless cat ladies and had nothing to say about men. Attempts to restrict reproductive autonomy of women is merely an internet meme and nothing that has actually happened or has been discussed in real life. In real life, women's choices/preference…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:10 PM
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I explicitly said in my post to not get bogged down in the specific examples. I'm not just speaking online. There are now actual movies and documentaries about the manosphere etc. This is in real-life, mainstream consciousness. These things are talked about by legitimate news organizations. Especially wrt birth rates. I think people in general are not going to take 'You are not what I'm attracted to' as something to be happy about. But the response must be handled with respect and empathy. Women…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:50 PM
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You can apparently make general patterns of observation about what women are doing. You've concluded that women are freely enabled everywhere to express ourselves however we want. What are your general patterns of observation regarding how men respond to what is expressed? It would be very odd to only have the ability to see one and not the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:43 PM
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I'm speaking more generally. Is it your understanding that women are free to speak honestly and directly with little to no hostility in response? Is that your observation from what you see online and the things you read about dating and relationship discourse in general? Women speak plainly and aren't hated or threatened for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:03 PM
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And the male response to that honesty you claim is everywhere is what, from your observation? Acceptance? Indifference and apathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:00 PM
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That indicates past tense. Does it not? This "transitionary period" is men expecting honesty and then crashing out and raging at women for it. There's no "transition" here. It's just a catch-22 where either way women will be hated and demonized
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:26 PM
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Another day, another case of social media making men delulu ☹️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 10:41 PM
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We also live in a world where men attack and demean women for being attracted to tall men and hope harm comes to them for it. Why'd you leave that part out? Kind of hard to be "normal" and "unlearn socialization" when there's men ready with pitchforks for your honesty and using that to justify oppressing women again
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:21 PM
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No one is putting pictures into "facial analysis" when they start sperging about "leagues" and "matches." These numbers are meaningless. They're just opinions that men think ought to be treated as facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:05 PM
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they are tricked by the mainstream blue pill nonsense that makes them think their looksmatches will be interested in them It seems like then the only other alternative explanation is that my point went entirely over your head. What gives them the confidence of who "their looksmatches" are in the first place? By your own logic being consistently rejected means those people, whether male or female, are out of your league That's what men tell women. So why doesn't the exact same logic apply to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:53 PM
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This is an off-topic rant about "blue-pilled men." I'll take your lack of direct engagement with my point as an inability to rebut it, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:44 PM
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Them "thinking they can get" women based on their own subjective opinion about their "looksmatch" should tell them they're delusional when their so-called "matches" don't want them back So why do men insist women are delusional here, and not the man? "If those women approached men on their level, they would have zero problems whatsoever getting accepted" - swap the genders here and it should be the same thing. But men insist it isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:32 PM
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No, with the caveat of my specific triggers. I don't like natalism or natalists. I also don't like prescriptions about how women "should" act, or shoulds in general that are about matters of personal compatibility. It strikes me as extremely entitled to insist billions of people behave in a specific manner according to what you personally like I also don't like entitlement lmao So like a comment like "women are superficial delusional children" I don't take personally. Or something like "high n w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:58 PM
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I observed a couple days ago that "kinky" is being used as a euphemism for degrading and/or painful. These men are not into, nor are they actually "kinky." Another word they use is "exploring," but one can't "explore" what they've already done and know. For some reason instead of finding women who haven't "explored" these things, they want women who have already fulfilled that curiosity to do it again (even if they already know they didn't like it).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:55 PM
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They aren't "potential lies" they are either true or not. What is this magical infallible lie detector men have? Women fake sex all the time. How does one have "fake sex" 😭 How a woman behaves in sex is not validating to me, she could easily be faking and performing. Do you think it's easier to lie with your words, or with your body She could be "faking and performing" both, are you going to hook her up to a brain scan during sex or w/e to verify if she came?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:07 PM
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🌎🔫🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀 Always has been Be the change you want to see
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:05 PM
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... on what planet are potential lies more validating than actual behavior that is happening 🤣😭
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:02 PM
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Complimenting a penis isn't a "threshold" for anything. They're words, and women b lyin That's why only behavior is proof of anything. Watch what they do, not what they say - am I right??
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:54 PM
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I think that's something they want, but I'm pointing to a more insidious desire that goes along with the misogynistic desire to hurt women and see us suffer. This comes out in other non-sexual ways, like the endless lamentations about us not "taking accountability." I've mentioned before the recent exchange I had with someone who resented therapy because he thinks therapists tell women to "let go any guilt" (clearly mutually exclusive with "taking accountability"). Which, naturally, we need to k…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:43 PM
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That cuts to the root of it, doesn't it? I've used cunnilingus before in lieu of other acts to point out how absurd the reasoning is. That's why we know it's not about sex per se, it's about specific sex acts men think "prove" attraction to them. So this usually requires things that she probably won't enjoy. That's why the acts are male fantasies, like anal and threesomes. Anal is the biggest one because if a woman is willing to let herself be hurt for your pleasure, well that surely must be the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:27 PM
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I described what's "interesting about my post" here
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:13 PM
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Sorry, you know what? You're right. "Feminine," which for some reason is always defined by two traits it isn't vs what it actually is. But yes, do you think women should be "feminine" in this egalitarian society. So tell me what that looks like in practice. This woman should have firm boundaries, but hold to them in a feminine way. Pushy men respect that, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:07 PM
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🫩 He literally said it depends on how many times
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:04 PM
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So you didn't pay any attention to the actual hypothetical, yet still had enough information to respond? The title of my post is "would you date this woman?" Literally the only way to answer is if you read the description.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:52 PM
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I'm curious what specifically in this hypothetical gave you the impression that she "enjoyed it" with the ex. She specifically states in the story that she doesn't like the feeling. How do you read that and think "well she should at least try anyway?"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:41 PM
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With each new reply I get, I'm understanding this more and more
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:32 AM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:25 AM
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Let's say you are neutral on it. It's not a deal-breaker in and of itself. But I feel like your answer still applies (?)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:28 AM
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I said I would dislike the girl because she is being disrespectful about her exes size. How, specifically? I don't obsess over anal sex or threesomes, so maybe you should talk to more guys about this subject. Yeah but your personal hangups have no reason to be the focus of my post. I'm a sentient creature who can use pattern recognition like everyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:17 AM
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That's nice. What about the rest of my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:08 AM
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It's an interesting position to simultaneously hold a preference for "submissive, traditional, feminine" women but also dump/reject a woman for not standing up to pressure or not say no to a guy. Pretty sure not saying no to men is a very traditional value. Kind of masculine for a woman to talk back, innit? Why is the number of times relevant, specifically? What's the magical number where this becomes a deal-breaker, and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:07 AM
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There's a bit to unpack here. That "different treatment" of the small dicked partner is the classically "better treatment." But to you it's still "disrespectful?" These topics are about anal sex because that's men's unique focus here. You'd have to ask them. Second common act is probably threesomes, but for this particular topic it's anal by far the majority of the time. So that's why my post is about anal - I'm just going by what men here obsess over. Also I don't know how your alts keep evadin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:02 AM
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Well we've seen that conversation play out time and time again already though. There's a minority of men who are cool with that because they don't want someone they like to do things they don't like to do, and a subset of those men who might leave if that particular thing was necessary for them to experience. There's a larger group who wouldn't care how she felt about it, they think about such things purely in terms of "fairness" so it doesn't matter how she feels and it largely doesn't even mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:25 PM
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I like your attitude, but I do need to ask for clarification on the The size makes no difference (within reason) since sphincters are meant to stretch, look at child birth. Claim 😭 Is that a typo?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:37 PM
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Who said it was satire? It's exaggeration to prove a point. I believe these men when they agree with it. I believe men when they endlessly complain about it. I believe men when they admit their insecurity and using sex as a benchmark for their masculinity and humanity. I believe every word of that. Once again, I'm not sure why there's this assumption that I don't understand that these men really believe what they're saying. But thank you for answering the question either way
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:25 PM
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Oh I know, I'm aware of that too 😃 There's enough room for all kinds of motivations, doesn't have to just be one or another But for this post, it's about this specific situation and rationalizations
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:13 PM
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I don't need the "logic" explained to me for the umpteenth time, I already observed men's argument in my OP
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:56 PM
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The example provided was what was requested wrt "self-respect." Whatever you ascribe to his deeper reasoning doesn't change that he has stated it's a matter of "self-respect" to leave if someone won't give you treatment you don't even care about or want. It's also incoherent to believe something is "better" but not want "better." People usually behave according to self-interest, yes? That's all even aside from the fact that your projected motivations still aren't mutually exclusive with the defi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:55 PM
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Pretty sure you have zero authority to speak to what "OP is convinced of," thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:45 PM
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For your dubious reading pleasure
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:36 PM
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Just roll with it brother. I bring light and levity to the sub
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:17 PM
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Happy to be of service 🫡
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:13 PM
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A war with Greenland would have been so much more fun I'm just saying And gas prices would probably be a little bit cheaper
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:24 PM
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Thank you for volunteering to be exhibit A, no further questions your honor 🧑🏿‍⚖️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:04 PM
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Utterly fascinating that the same gender who seethes and pisses and moans about having to phrase their communication in specific ways gets so bent out of shape when they're on the receiving end of a communication style they don't like. I've read most of the comments and the nitpick seems to entirely distill to "they may have meant yes but they didn't explicitly say yes" or "they said yes but it wasn't the very first tippy top word of their comment grrrr." Meanwhile, here's an incomplete list of …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:01 PM
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I'm very quick with the "quote where I said that, specifically" replies and refuse to engage with the inevitable attempts at distraction/goalpost moving/changing of topic until they produce it (spoiler alert: they don't, because they can't). 99.9% of the time it ends with me disengaging altogether when they don't provide the quote(s) requested unless there's another dumb claim they assert that I feel like calling them out on
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:33 PM
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It's not "nihilism" to observe and understand reality. You are the one who repeatedly insists on "big picture" perspectives, and now you choose pejorative framing when someone out-"big pictures" you. Your personal philosophy is a personal philosophy. Your religious adherence to Locke is no less a subjective perspective than mine. It's not "nihilism" to value less suffering over more suffering. Regardless of whatever "mathematical models" you use, you can't defeat the equation that the fewer peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:18 AM
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So effectively you have said there is no way to discuss the 'big picture' That's not remotely what I said. Like, at all. Rejecting your specific framework isn't saying any of that. Calling out that your framework is completely unsupported by actual fact and yet you expect "honest conversations" that treat it as such isn't doing any of that. That's an extraordinarily bad-faith take on what I said. Arguably, I'm far more "big picture" than you, and always have been. You believe in "contracts" betw…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:17 PM
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I use economic modeling of the sexual marketplace carefully and properly. I dont try to bring it down to the individual level. What language or models would you choose to use for describing the bigger picture patterns? I'm always open to alternate approaches. Arousal isn't based on economic modeling. Your attempting to numerically quantify attraction will fail like all the other attempts. It also doesn't override other factors of self-interest. None of this "modeling" is any kind of indisputable…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:06 PM
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Bob, your honest feelings assume an unproven premise as we've previously butted heads about. And that is that there are these "mate rankings" that men have, and these determine their "matches," and these "matches" rejecting them means that women are delusional. Your comments assume this as a given in order to jump ahead to the discussion about how to "influence" women to agree with men about men's "rankings" of ourselves. Let's not mince words. The straight truth, no chaser of this framing is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:59 PM
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Yes, and that's why so much ire (and incel rage) is directed at us in particular. Women win the game by not playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:43 PM
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Per your own framework what women "want" or "need" is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is what men think is "reasonable" for us to "want" and "need." And any delta between these is strictly due to women needing to adjust and not men. The "honest conversations" are futile as a result. Men can decide those things regardless of our input, and in fact will do what they want regardless of that input anyway. This setup is a pretext of choice for women without meaningful influence. It's the equi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:34 PM
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It's not logical to consider something "better" if it's something you don't want. This is why we laugh at dogs that get jealous when a toy they weren't even playing with gets taken by another dog. It's cute and funny when they do it. Not so much for a grown ass man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:35 PM
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That's a special case and that's all I'll say about that. That's the alt of the banned user small-pp-small-smv, if you remember him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:11 PM
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I find that the use of "kinky" is a euphemism for "degrading." They don't care about kink, they care about women debasing themselves as "proof" and validation of their attraction. Months ago I talked about this on another post and he outright stated he didn't even want the act, he just wanted to know "she would be willing to do it." What a miserable way to view sex, as a competition. This is exactly why they don't filter for it upfront. Because it's not a matter of actual compatibility. These me…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:37 PM
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What's funny is that whenever women bring this up outside of context men rush to gaslight that "no one is asking you to lower your standards 😜🤪"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:03 PM
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Chat, is this "red-pilled?"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:56 PM
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They really can't make up their minds if they care more about being beta bucked or the "regretful old woman" revenge fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:28 PM
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That's so sad. Within the past year or so there was a similar story in my state, but it was an engaged couple and their dog at home. They think a battery from the dude's e-bike started the fire and both of them actually got out but she went back inside for her dog and died of smoke inhalation, along the the dog. Can't lie that'd be me too, no fucking way I'm going to live without even at least trying to save them cause I couldn't live with myself anyway afterwards if I didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:43 PM
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I don't know why marriage means you have to fast-track the "white picket fence" life or have children. But maybe this is social conditioning that never took to me, because it's only within the past couple of years did I learn there are people who think the only purpose of marriage is having children. I always thought it was a symbol of commitment to each other, not the promise of a set-in-stone lifestyle journey you must now undertake. I'm pretty sure there are married people still traveling the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:37 PM
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Smells like ragebait spirit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:57 AM
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I did not expect that to be so entertaining. I watched several more minutes than I planned 🤣😭
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:51 AM
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It's not news that many men are looking for a mommy they can fuck, and neither article is actually data that this has translated to meaningful real-world behavior. Hence why the first link is an opinion piece, and the second link isn't really saying much of anything at all. Real data shows age gaps in actual marriages decreasing. "Competition is too high for women my age so I'm lowering my standards for my loads" isn't actual desire either, it's desperation. I'm a little over articles conflating…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:42 AM
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Once again, this assumes the premise that we need to keep having children in the first place, much less at specific rates. My "model" is to let the people who want to have children have children and leave the people who don't want to have children the hell alone. A generation or two or three of shrinking population isn't the world-ending cataclysmic event pronatalists fear-monger about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:20 AM
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It's not a "line of reasoning," that's not what "reasoning" is. It's an observation that "love" isn't necessary for the creation of children. That's a biological fact of material reality. In addition to not being a "line of reasoning," it's also not a suggestion for implementation. Your title assumes the premise. I disagree with the premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:17 AM
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If you need to "convince them" that's a sign they shouldn't be doing it at all. "Having kids" requires creampies, not "love." Tons of men creampie and have kids with women they don't love. Just look at the most fertile countries in the world right now and tell me those children are products of "love."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:06 AM
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There's a common perception by men on this sub that the only or primary motivation a man has for pursuing these "essential jobs" isn't because of personal interest or aptitude, it's to "support a family." So if society won't rightfully give him that wife and children he feels entitled to, then the correct response is to revoke their end of this covert contract. It's projection. The "high status" jobs have more competition and require more education (and most importantly, networking) than these m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:08 PM
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75% of what victims are "always women?" This is an incoherent statement as well, "always" de facto is 100%. And most men are victims of violence by other men. It would be fair to assert based on your own rationale that women are already doing a better job than men of choosing our situations wisely, and men are the last people on this planet who should be lecturing us about "choosing better." I like what someone said above It's not about trusting men or not. Have better wisdom when choosing the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:17 PM
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There's tons of male-identified women, and tons of men who love that for them There's also a persistent narrative that the justice system is unfairly punitive to men, to which you'd think the undying support of these women would be exhalted rather than used as a gotcha for how dumb and gullible women are So it seems like you need to pick a lane, doesn't it? Should women be coddling these unfairly victimized men because the law hates men, or should women have no sympathy and empathy for male crim…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:22 PM
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There's no need for me to engage in a discussion with someone who already knows what I'll say anyway, is there? ✌🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:13 PM
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This is word salad. Your point is "the men you choose harm you, and you choose them because they 'make you feel good.'" The implied "solutions" are to not choose men, or to not choose men who "make us feel good." Men are always framing female arousal as something bad and defective. I'm a little tired of it. Using "frat parties" was your choice, I'm confused why you expect me to justify and explain your own decision. "Frat parties are dangerous so don't attend them." Sure, got it. Now what about …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:27 PM
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Do you think women go to frat parties because of their uncontrollable lust, or because it's a party at a college? Your own OP tried to frame men merely existing as the danger and now you're hamstering around your own misandry That's nothing I can help you with
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:14 PM
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LMAO nice, the "attractive man bad, unattractive man good" pivot Most of us start getting catcalled before puberty, our negative experiences with men aren't just "mEn We ChOsE bCuZ aTtRaCtIoN"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:11 PM
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So... trust men less? Sure, I could get behind that. We then have to deal with posts like these though 🤷🏿 Seems like men will be mad no matter what we do
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:55 PM
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How are they going to "give jobs" that they don't even have? Boomers/GenX/Millennials hold the vast majority of these jobs, not "Gen Z men" 🙄 Don't think you thought your cunning plan all the way through there boss
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:50 PM
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I have no idea why you think you're schooling me on anything. I'm well aware of male sexuality. There are more adjectives I used than just "hypersexual" in that statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 05:34 PM
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There's a difference between immoral and abusive
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 05:06 AM
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It's interesting that you specifically use women who have been damaged in some way and admit as such as some sort of "gotcha" about average women and how their attraction works. I wonder why men are so insistent on this narrative that women are aroused by being treated like shit when they have to cherry-pick like this to prove their point. At this point, I conclude it's more a tell of what men would like than women. Especially when you essentially agree with the point of saying being nice is the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:59 AM
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I don't care about labels, so there's no "irony." I don't ascribe to specific belief systems for that purpose, because then people expect me to hold every single tenet of that system for "consistency." I'd rather believe whatever I want to, not whatever a "system" tells me to. "Red pill" teaches a lot of things alongside it not being "our responsibility to lower standards," which again is very suspect of a claim these days anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:50 PM
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I find the take that everything men do is borne of logic and reason, and everything women do is borne of brainwashing and popularity an ironically solipsistic male take that uses its own bias to reinforce and justfy its conclusions. When you start off with the idea that men are de facto logical, everything you think about male behavior will be filtered through that lens and vice-versa for female behavior. However, actual reason would lead you to the conclusion that as men and women are part of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:15 PM
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🤣🤣 this feels like at least two specific PPDers
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 04:33 AM
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SCRATCHCEPTION
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:23 AM
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I'm putting you on ignore. ✌🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 11:40 PM
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Disagreement isn't misunderstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 11:37 PM
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Yes, and there's also the matter that at the time OLD wasn't mainstream. It wasn't like it was now, it was mostly just offbeat people anyway - so even the "top 20%" wouldn't have been the handsome uberChads that men retcon it as. I'm one of the very few people here (possibly even the only commenter) who was actually on that site at the time (because phone apps didn't really exist like that then) and it absolutely wasn't anything close to Tinder dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 11:37 PM
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"But women" isn't a rebuttal to my specific points
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 11:32 PM
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Those responses are part of having an "honest debate." They are based on observing the contexts in which this "advice" is doled out, and how it frequently contradicts with other commonly espoused manosphere narratives. Ironically it's men who aren't being honest about this advice, which is what women are calling out. You not liking that doesn't make it "defensiveness," it's literally engaging with the debate and discussion directly. Women are not required to accept the conditions and parameters …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 06:43 PM
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I'm not being "fed" by men not oppressing me. They should have never done so in the first place. Putting out a fire you started doesn't make you a fucking hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 07:15 AM
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Yes, mammals. Corrected
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 02:04 AM
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It doesn't really matter. Well that's convenient considering you have such strong feelings about your preferences and how millions of women "should" act accordingly. If it didn't matter, you wouldn't feel this strongly about it. I just know what I am attracted to and it is not crassness and aggression. No, you also know what all other men are attracted to, and that's why all women "should" behave more "feminine." Additionally, you also know that men who don't share your feelings don't just have …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 01:05 AM
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He's using polling from this newspaper, which interestingly enough doesn't have any actual data about methodology and breaks down women into two groups but men into one. We don't have any info about what men under 25 think. He's also conflating two separate demographics and exaggerating their numbers. He rounded up "men under 30" from the actual 72% to 80%, and then instead of using the higher equivalent "women under 30" at 50%, he used the "women under 25" at 30% (which he also rounded down in …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 12:03 AM
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It's so fascinating how men here pretend sexual dimorphism is oppression. Women liking tall men is the equivalent of men liking bigger breasts. Not sure why this needs to involve "patriarchy." It's a choice to oppress women. It's not a choice for males to be taller and stronger than females, like virtually all sexually dimorphic animals mammals are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:48 PM
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Fucking faaaaacts Although I agree sociosexuality is a more apt term
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:31 PM
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Hell yeah. I got some spicy takes from my dog groomer lmao. She was pretty much like "yeah I don't see what the big deal is, just fuck him when he wants, you know?" 🤣 She's an odd bird though. Love her regardless I talk about it more with my male friends because I can be way more candid. My female friends are partnered and have kids so I don't really feel like navigating that minefield. They've already chosen their reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:27 PM
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You're not actually saying anything meaningful wrt specifically defining what "feminine" is, you're just saying two things you personally don't like (one of which is very vague). Since you believe this is how women "should" be acting (which, importantly is a prescription, not "a preference") it'd be helpful to give out some actual specifics for this guide. I'm not sure why you think it's an "act" for women to behave the way we are without oppression vs the way we acted with it. Don't you think y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 06:34 PM
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So... that's a no?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 08:37 AM
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Sooo... I hope you can understand my point about your confirmation and selection bias, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 08:12 AM
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Ad homs are the resort of people without a cogent argument or rebuttal, FYI I can explain any of those words to you on demand!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:28 AM
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You know MeToo isn't a person, right? It's literally the name given for the collective carharsis of women sharing their experiences with unwanted sexual encounters. The movement "can't approach" anyone because it's not actually a sentient entity. Kind of embarrassing I need to spell that out, but here we are I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:25 AM
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Uh my recollection was more on the hysteria side and feelings of vindication that the eeeevil women are finally using our unlimited feminist power to exact revenge against men But tomayto, tomahto
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 05:17 AM
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C'mon Sand, I'm trying to be generous here lolll Of course it doesn't and never will, but in any case I'm so glad that feminist crisis was averted 😮‍💨 we almost had to give up working rights as penance for our insubordination
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 04:43 AM
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Well, it's a mid dude bordering on unattractive, but things have been oddly quiet since more information came out about his wildass claims. Four days ago this was the biggest receipt for how Me Too directly leads to the oppression of men lmao He's also already been proven to have lied about his dad dying to get bereavement, and “'refused to participate and declined to provide facts' to support his assertions for their own internal investigation." Not to mention everything she allegedly told him …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 04:35 AM
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Hey chat, we still bringing out the pitchforks and torches for people who make false sexual assault allegations? Cause it's been reaaaaal quiet about that lately... 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 04:19 AM
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If only there was some middle ground between "IDGAF if you enjoy it or get off" and "I'm obsessed with making you cum." If only...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:27 AM
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Based and bias-pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:24 AM
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I have no idea what having children out of wedlock has to do with anything. The point of contention isn't "people never have unprotected sex," the point of contention is that male birth control doesn't change the female experience. Women are not all of a sudden going to trust men more than we already do. So your revenge fantasy of all these broken-hearted women sobbing about getting knocked up because they trusted a guy who said he was on birth control is incredibly unrealistic. And women "react…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:01 PM
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I'm going to ask a general good faith question. How can you be so sure that women are not going to Care for the birth control thing? Because we already know about male aversion to sexual responsibility and inclinations towards saying whatever they have to to be able to fuck us raw. This is not a new concept dude. "I'm clean" is functionally no different than "I'm on the pill." Either way women understand the asymmetry of the risks vs rewards and will continue taking appropriate measures to prote…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:44 PM
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Guess it's "accountability" week on PPD lmao Y'all are salivating at the thought of being able to do to women what you imagine we're doing to you, but in reality we don't care. Women aren't going to unilaterally trust male birth control en masse, this is really more for y'all than ourselves. No, women aren't going to start crying about alimony and it's really not going to be a thing anyway unless women start marrying men who don't work en masse. Earning a little more than your partner does not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:27 PM
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Customer service agents. There's not going to be a single difference between the description of "feminine" and what people expect customer service agents to be like. Which makes it all the more hilarious that men like to pretend how "easy" it is to be "feminine," because sucking everyone's shit down with a smile on your face and being eternally grateful for the opportunity is something they really seem to believe is inherent to female nature. In reality, it's just how they want us to be and that…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 09:23 PM
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Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 08:39 PM
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I agree broadly, but I'm not so much focused on getting women "out of their league" as I am their ability to date within it. The narrative on this sub is that average women only have eyes for Chad/dark triad narcs and can only feel minimal to no excitement or desire for anyone else. It's such an extreme, rigid, oversimplified way of viewing dating. Average men can be sexually exciting to average women, but obviously not if they are asexual snoozefests. It's like they take issue with needing to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 08:05 PM
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I'm saying that they both tie back to the exact same biologically-based cost-benefit analysis. You keep acting like they must be mutually exclusive. There are some things that are high-risk, high-reward. There are some things that are low-risk, low-reward. There are some things that are high-risk, low-reward. There are some things that are low-risk, high reward. This is how the vast majority of behavior operates - within this framework. Biology makes sex low-risk, high-reward for men and the opp…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:57 PM
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i mean that's essentially the core of the argument you're making - that ai will never validate men and i don't think that's true "My argument" is based on reading the things men say directly. For the men for whom "validation" is one of the primary motivations for sex, it would not be sufficient. If you just want a compliant mute bangmaid then sure. If you want to feel chosen? By nature it's incapable of doing that. like, i dont think it's true that the forever alone men are damned to pointlessne…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:57 PM
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i think the premise that men being validated is exclusively a sex thing is wrong It's what they say. that may play a big part, but emotional/personality/personal issues, etc. being validated is not this pointless thing for people I never said it was "pointless," you're tilting at windmills
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:43 PM
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You're talking about pickiness. The pickiness is because of lower initial attraction, which is related to biology. You can't separate these concepts out. They are connected. Women are not pickier than men because of an intentional, conscious choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:39 PM
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"It's not legal" hasn't stopped people from doing tons of things they want to do. Speeding, jaywalking, pot... I'm not sure why this is supposed to be some kind of compelling point regardless. All I'm literally doing is observing and repeating the reasons why men themselves have said sex workers won't help. "It's illegal" isn't one of their considerations. "It's not validating" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:49 AM
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I'm not OP
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:32 AM
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Therapy is for women And women are for therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:30 AM
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That doesn't really address my point, and it's not illegal everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:29 AM
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We didn't build this country off of selfish utilitarianism. We built it off of manifest destiny and the notion of liberty for all. Well this is just bad history. You know there were already people here when "this country was built," yes? Where was the "liberty" on the Trail of Tears? Where was the "liberty" for the slaves and prisoners of internment camps? Ultimately this is all just a weird pissy rant but you could have at least tried to not make it sound like the rough draft of r/im14andthisis…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:40 AM
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Ehhh. The internal inclinations are biological. That doesn't override agency or self-control. The cost/benefit analyses are the biological basis behind sex drive, which is intertwined with attraction. Men get hard for "good enough" because they're not left with the consequences. Women are, so physiologically it takes more than just existing in front of us with a dick to turn us on. Though I'm not sure how that is a matter of agency. Being turned on or not isn't a controllable event, it's inspire…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:17 AM
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That's a cool story. Still based on female chromosomes. Still "discrimination" according to your own logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:04 AM
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Unless you think people are "romantic" and desire "romance" with people regardless of sex (which is clearly a silly argument) then they are functionally the same for purposes of this topic. You are making a distinction without a meaningful difference. No, I don't "identify" as a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:58 AM
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You "not thinking it will be a problem" has already been disproven by what these men have already said.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:56 AM
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I'm saying all dating is inherently discriminatory. That's how it works. It starts usually by discriminating by sex. Sexual orientation by very nature is "discrimination." So if you're going with this argument, then sexual orientation is a "structural barrier" that I guess society needs to remove, somehow. IDGAF about "feminism's core values." It has nothing to do with what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:53 AM
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You're just repeating yourself. It wouldn't be validating because once again, that's the exact reason why these guys reject sex workers. Whether it's paying a human being or buying a robot, it's the exact same thing. That entity didn't actually choose you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:51 AM
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Yes, scammers still find victims. Look at the American president and how "betrayed" some of his voters feel by him predictably doing things he promised he wouldn't (and vice-versa). That doesn't somehow mean that there weren't millions of people who didn't see exactly who he is and what his record was. And that doesn't mean that there aren't just as many (if not more) women who aren't "jaded" by their experiences with dick pics, sexual harassment, stalking, insults, laziness, bait-and-switches, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:44 AM
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why would they be programmed to reject these men? ... they wouldn't be. That's exactly my point wrt why it's not validating??
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:34 AM
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People are unfair to others by discrininating them.And that’s exactly the case here. If you distinguish between people based on things they cannot control? So just to be clear, you are open to dating literally anyone and everyone, regardless of age, sex, etc.? You don't "discriminate" at all here. Correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:33 AM
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I don't disagree with any of that. I'm just tired of the narrative that every dude who has a trait women find sexually attractive are going to end up abusing or harming us in some way, and so obviously the only way to avoid that is to choose the boring plank of wood with no social aptitude or charm. I've literally seen it seriously argued that tall men are bad for women, because they die sooner! Like it's truly ridiculous. If women spammed these same kind of arguments we'd be laughed off this su…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:30 AM
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I've never seen Blade Runner. If these robots were "real enough" then they would also reject these undesirable men. The fact is they only don't because they can't/won't be programmed to do so. They are not choosing these men of their own volition and desire. That will never be real validation. Real validation only matters if they have the free will to say no and still choose you anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:18 AM
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I just do not understand how it is fair that some people are disadvantaged in getting love while other's aren't. It isn't. And this shows me that the world isn't unfair. It's people imo. People are not being "unfair" to others by not desiring them for sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:12 AM
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"AI girlfriends" absolutely doesn't solve the desire for validation. Men themselves have frequently espoused how their ability to fuck women is a measure of self-worth and validation that he's a human being. If an AI girlfriend could genuinely fulfill this, then these men could already find the same solution through sex workers... but they don't, because the validation is all contained within another person choosing and desiring him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:10 AM
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I find the all-or-nothing narrative that men need to be nervous or else they're dark-triad players a tirelessly spammed self-serving falsehood. The world consists of more variety than confident manipulative hypersexual narcissists and slow-burning neutered nice guys. I don't understand why the idea persists that being able to understand non-verbal body language to escalate and be charismatic and engaging on a date means you must somehow be manipulative and deceitful. It doesn't require endless p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:05 AM
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His narrative makes zero sense. There are more black people in the south so the idea that it'd be harder for them to be considered attractive is incoherent. Who's making them if they're all considered "sub 5s?" Unless the attention by black women doesn't count...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:03 PM
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No lol Virtually every guy I've ever liked the most has had ADHD, including one LTR. And they have fucked a lot In fact the second to last time I hooked up with an FWB, he pretty much came into my house and opened with "so I'm on Adderall now" and I was like "... right...??" Like duh lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:53 PM
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Believve it or not, people have always been able to talk about you and share their experiences and thoughts and opinions about you without your knowledge. Men being pissy about that doesn't mean that I somehow am personally sUpPoRtInG hAtE sPeEcH
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:43 PM
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You are free to continue conflating dislike of the marketing as hatred of the product. I once again reiterate the proof is in the pudding. If it was so desirable, it would be more successful. The fact is other methods are far more successful for a reason. That wouldn't be the case if "hatred of men" was the main reason why women complain about cold-approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:19 PM
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It doesn't require a hatred of men to dislike cold approaching, specifically. The entire concept of bothering someone who previously didn't even know you existed to sell them something is understood by collective society to be an undesirable, unwanted intrusion or annoyance. I don't have to "hate Internet" to loathe being interrupted by the Spectrum tables at Kroger in the middle of the aisle. You're theories are just w​eird hamstering to avoid acknowledging this very obvious reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:05 PM
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Well, you still frame them as something inherently negative, Someone interrupting your day is inherently negative. We all collectively understand that as a society. That doesn't change just because pissy men's feelings are involved. Telemarketing, spam email, door-to-door solicitation doesn't have the reputation it has because people enjoy being bothered by strangers. Yet for some reason men magically expect themselves to be exceptions because they wanna fuck. The vast majority of relationships …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:34 PM
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"Nothing ever happens to women, but whatboutism" Brilliant rebuttal m8
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:55 PM
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It's literally spam. It's no different than a telemarketer or junk mail. Some people might be receptive to those too, but it doesn't make them overall less annoying. No one is "framing them as hostile," they are mostly annoying and unwanted like most spam. Unless you want to tell me you are receptive to whatever cold-calling happens in your life, women aren't the unreasonable ones here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:46 PM
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That's a pretty invalidating take. Women don't have to be closed off to finding a partner to dislike cold approaches. It's not "advice" in the first place to say "I hate cold approaches under any and all circumstances" anyway, it's literally women saying how they personally feel?? That's not claiming they're an "intimidation tactic," goddamn. It's crazy that women can't even express discomfort or aversion to cold approaches without that being pathologized. And arguably your "sitting next to her …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:34 PM
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If you have to resort to name-calling, particularly right out of the gate, that usually says something about one's ability to create an argument or rebuttal based in reason. I said absolutely nothing worth that kind of response. The fact that you had to say all that was very telling. I wasn't even talking to you and here you come from nowhere dropping with vitriol because you... didn't like a term I used?? I'm not "upset," I'm just not here to feel like I'm back in middle school. And let it be k…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:01 AM
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Putting words into my mouth still isn't an argument. It's rather silly of you to continue trying to throw this accusation of "disingenuous" at me here And more than a little entertaining
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:57 AM
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Says the person with 0 quotes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:51 AM
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Before you get deleted for the personal attacks, mind quoting where I made these specific claims about the number of men? Cause I'm pretty sure all I did was state and observe that it existed. Which... it did. As even you yourself conceded 🤡🥴
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:44 AM
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I think it could go either way. Generally I like Gen Z (I'm an elder Millennial), but I acknowledge intersectionality too. I get a fair amount of Gen Z content in my feed like this and this, but I'm not on the "young male manosphere" algorithm either. I also have been taking classes part time for the past couple of years to change career fields and most of my peers are Gen Z. There have been a lot of young men I've really vibed with, but I'm still in a bubble of sorts I suppose. Definitely could…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:38 AM
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Yeah, I don't think this is an interesting conversation. Feel free to rage about the audacity of unattractive women to exist in the looks thread ig
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:17 AM
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Yes, I already have another man raging at me about that. It's so strange how a woman not making a man's pp hard can be so incensing here
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:17 AM
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Why are you so thoroughly convinced that "propaganda" is the cause, and not actually hearing and seeing the actual things men are saying and thinking about women? And also, you know... our actual experiences with men? It's so weird how y'all think the only way women could ever have negative opinions about men is through hearsay.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:14 AM
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I have no idea what you're on about. You seem really angry about the attractiveness of those women, which not only has fuck all to do with anything, but I couldn't care less about I have no idea why not dating a virgin = "out of your league" 🥴 posting about your experience with a guy = "he's out of your league?" Asking for experiences with a guy = "he's out of your league?" Words really do just be meaning anything
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:08 AM
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Your argument is that "marriage and babies" are metrics for/barometers of "female radicalization," no?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:05 AM
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No, that's not how debates work It mattered enough for you to use it as a fundamental basis of your argument. Now you're just hamstering and deflecting. I've already addressed your claims about "worse results," which you also unsurprisingly continue to ignore in favor of repeating your original argument I guess this exchange won't move forward 🤷🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:59 AM
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How is that an argument? Lmao How is it an argument that men got so mad about women trying to protect themselves? To the point where they hacked the site to expose the womens' photos?? "Choose better, but if you try I'll rage and punish you 🥰" It's very telling how threatened men are by the idea that women could "compare notes" about them, and especially amusing from a red-piller. And I don't do "shoulds" for men. IDGAF what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:46 AM
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Repeating your post isn't a rebuttal. Gen Z men are more conservative than Millennials, not less. They are generally less progressive and supportive of feminism. You are lumping them in with other generations when it's convenient for your argument but the actual reality doesn't support this exponential growth that you're trying to portray. And it makes sense that the gender who benefits more and risks less from marriage and children want it more than the gender who benefits less and risks so muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:38 AM
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I guess "your body, my choice" and the online rape academy was a fever dream, eh? Oh, and let's not forget how much men looooved the Tea app! Gonna really need for y'all to pick a fucking lane here. Either men are super fed up and the incel uprising is juuuust around the corner cause the boys are weally weally angwy at feminism not sucking their dicks OR it's actually the women who are getting "radicalized" by some website I've never heard of, and "radicalization" is why we don't want marriage a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:31 AM
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Absolutely not, tf It gives emotional incest vibes tbh, why is he even thinking about all that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:54 AM
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He's 6'4" and he respects women 🥹
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:11 AM
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Uh, you might want to reread the post. It definitely also mentions men. Including the title. Being held "financially responsible" isn't the man himself taking accountability for shit. Most child support still isn't paid in full and most men never do any actual jail time for that. You had so many words for how the woman herself should take accountability - not by the government, what she actually should have done. Where's "he should have worn protection?" Where's "he should have gotten snipped?"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:02 AM
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Extremely based
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 11:05 PM
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The limit does not exist
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 10:54 PM
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I want to take accountability but my doctor won't write me a prescription. She says it interacts with my migraine meds 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:31 PM
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He specifically asked how the man can be held accountable here. You just continued going on about the woman. Extremely telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:09 PM
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That's absolutely what they mean. I had an exchange recently with a man who was deriding therapy because (according to him) therapists are there to make you "let go any guilt." And we certainly can't have women not feeling guilty (about what, who knows, who cares, they need to keep feeling guilty!)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:07 PM
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So… I’m used to dating women my own age? Idk if you broke up or whatever but my last recollection was you being in your late 20s dating a woman in her early 20s, with a gap of like 5-6 years. Am I supposed to filter for women older than me that probably don’t like me? Not what I said. And it’s extremely disingenuous to call hanging out with a woman for a few hours “manipulative”. I never said that was what was "manipulative," the only disingenuousness here is your performative outrage. Stop assu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:32 PM
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"Men can't afford to have preferences/be picky" Surely it's better to cast a wide, undiscerning net and then berate the woman about not being what and who you want? It's working out so well for them 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:58 PM
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Your inability to comprehend my point is user error. I've already explained to you why women hate "choose better." Men do not use it the way you are claiming and defining it. Women are "hating" the actual way it is used by those men. No men are actually using "choose better" the way you define it, so women are not "hating" what you made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:56 PM
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You filter for young, relatively inexperienced women who are vulnerable to your kind of manipulation. We've had this discussion before. It's not about him "filtering differently," it's about him not strategically plotting every single minutiae and movement he takes as a chess game for seduction. A guy who waits would feel the vibes of the woman, not just have automatic benchmarks for the number of hours he should wait to have her in his bed and if not - unequivocally declare she's clearly not in…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:53 PM
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You filter for young, relatively inexperienced women who are vulnerable to your kind of manipulation. We've had this discussion before. It's not about him "filtering differently," it's about him not strategically plotting every single minutiae and movement he takes as a chess game for seduction. Your strategies are inorganic. A guy who waits would feel the vibes of the woman, not just have automatic benchmarks for the number of hours he should wait to have her in his bed and if not - unequivocal…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:53 PM
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Based on the women you specifically filter for, the definition of "confirmation bias." "Wow, every time I go to this bus stop at 4:30 p.m., the bus arrives within 5 minutes!! All buses everywhere must arrive between 4:30 - 4:35 p.m." That's your argument why "statistics" don't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:38 PM
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Your entire post is about why women hate "choose better." What other men say and mean by this is extremely relevant, I'm not "hiding behind" jack shit. You are trying to declare your own interpretation as the only one that matters or counts. I'm reiterating to you that it doesn't. Women are not responding to what you're claiming is meant by this, they are reading and seeing how other men use this and their rationale. So you don't get to come along and retroactively declare all of that invalid be…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:37 PM
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A month is 3-4 dates depending on schedules. That's not unreasonable for a complete stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:14 PM
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Observing what men actually have said (Bailey) vs your observations (Motte) isn't the reframing here. you even admit the real answer without realizing it 🫩 when you say women should better vet the men they are attracted to. I'm sorry, what about that statement makes you think I was somehow unaware of the words I was writing? My entire point is that this "real answer" isn't what men actually say. They instead go on about how women choose hot guys and "guys with options," and confident guys, and e…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:07 PM
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Can you objectively define any of the terms in your title in order to engage what, specifically "mainstream" is "acknowledging" in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:52 PM
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No, most women aren't demisexual. Most women are heterosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:41 PM
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Men don't actually mean "choose better" when they say this, they almost invariably mean one of two things: 1) choose me 2) pick boring guys you're not sexually attracted to That's it. That's all "better" is. If it were actually about "choosing better," less time and energy would be spent haranguing women into choosing less attractive men with no options and more time and energy would be spent on advising women to better vet the men we are attracted to. But they never do. They just lambast women …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:39 PM
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It's not a "small thing" to have sexual attraction be a factor for someone you're expected to have sex with. I don't understand why men keep being disingenuous about that. Both men and women only consider dating people who meet their looks threshold due to this. That's how sexuality works, most people aren't demisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:36 PM
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Q4M( for those of you who aren't saving yourselves for marriage or in general don't have casual sex): How many of you would turn down opportunities to have casual sex with hot women if you were/are single?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:55 PM
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Gloryholes beg to differ
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:54 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:32 AM
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It's not merely that they're "more attracted to women," it's the fundamental male sex drive. It's why gay men fuck the way they do. Indiscriminate "spray and pray" male nature, which isn't purely "more attraction" but a combination of hormones and a more favorable costs/benefits analysis
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:27 AM
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... the male sex drive?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:15 AM
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Eh, this is like almost a word for word rehash of your last Q4W baitpost, you just used a slightly different word. Gotta find a new angle bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:48 AM
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I addressed your claim about looking "cartoonishly masculine." I don't think a lack of overtly feminine features must de facto mean cartoonishly masculine. Masculinity is a spectrum. Only the extreme end is "cartoonish," as the definition implies. Bernthal and Orton occupy different spaces on this spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:04 AM
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I don't think he's "cartoonishly masculine." I think Randy Orton is "cartoonishly masculine" in the face. I don't expect a man to understand the feminine gaze. I have no interest in explaining it to you as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:54 AM
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I am not personally attracted to him. I can still recognize his attractiveness and what makes him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:46 AM
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This is the world feminists want 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:21 AM
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If I date and form enough of a bond with a woman to enter a relationship with her, I consider her the best woman by default. There is no "better". "Best of your options" isn't saying there isn't "better," it's just saying you can't get "better." Men are not dropping 5 figures on rings for women they consider suboptimal. What does that have to do with anything? There's a huuuuuge middle ground between "best" and "suboptimal"; most men aren't "dropping 5 figures on rings" for anyone, and a wedding…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:41 PM
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Men do not want to give their best (commitment, loyalty, support) in exchange for a woman's non-best. What men consider "best" has nothing to do with us. If he doesn't like what he's offered then don't date us, tf No one is making him have relationships with women he doesn't think aren't giving him "their best." The endless bitching and moaning about "best" is so pathetic. Seething with jealousy and envy that men better than him got "the best" is pointless, it's like being mad people with more m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:00 PM
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This is my exact opinion. Not only that, but I think they lose a bit of masculinity/ruggedness at that point. Like Jon Bernthal's "flaws" are part of what make him hot. I'm sure you could yassify him or whatever into "aesthetic perfection" but he wouldn't be anywhere near as hot
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 08:43 PM
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You guys DGAF about "self-reflection." What you're specifically looking for is punitive blame. Therapists help with self-reflection. They're not professionally trained to just endlessly, mindlessly glaze their patients. The only reason why men angrily speak of therapy that way is because the way it's done isn't as vitriolic and hateful as they feel women deserve. It's also why you guys demand this be done loudly and publicly. It's not enough for women to have these conversations amongst ourselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 08:13 PM
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Why would they expect to be treated like the hot man at the club if they aren't the hot man at the club? Men constantly bitch at women here about "knowing our league," yet irrationally demand and get pissy about not being treated like men who are "out of our league." It's not inconsistency to treat men differently according to their league. Men do it themselves with "casual use only" and "wife material." Men are all about "leagues" and telling women how our "leagues" determine our treatment from…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 07:13 PM
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The "accountability" he and most men like him are looking for is to treat ourselves with the same derision, scorn, and contempt they do. They need us to hate ourselves as much as they hate us. "Going to therapy" is automatically useless because therapists aren't trained to tell us we're useless dumb sluts who get dangerously wet for psychopaths. Therapists will guide you through the process of examining your patterns and why they happen, but it doesn't count because they aren't going to attack a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 06:24 PM
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That's pretty accurate. "No see we had to oppress you for your own good! 🥺🥺 If we didn't, then other societies would come in and oppress you instead!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:07 PM
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However there's a plethora of women who do and will always find the men who are experts in seduction desirable. Your complaints should be with the sisterhood and figuring out why that type of guy gets you going over the boring nice guy types. Sure Jan. No false dichotomy here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:59 PM
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This entire post is based on a false dichotomy where the only options are either finding "boring, nice" guys sexually arousing or "assholes and players." I've repeatedly pointed out that you don't need to be an "asshole" or a "player" to be exciting, confident, and/or masculine. But due to the inability of men (in the manosphere) to appreciate or even understand nuance, everything must always be in stark black-and-white, all-or-nothing extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:56 PM
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We have a county shelter but it would have to be up to the woman who owns the puppies to surrender them if there isn't a valid cruelty case. The bar is really high for that unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 02:55 AM
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I called the shelter but went to the voicemail of the dog warden, who is responsible for enforcing these laws. I just left a voicemail. Not sure what else I can do. I hope someone calls me back tomorrow with an update.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 02:42 AM
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Surely they're looking dor motor oil because they're too poor to afford the vet. I don't understand how used motor oil is any kind of medical treatment for any medical condition. They might as well be looking to obtain raw sewage? This is the leap I don't get. They're just stupid. This has nothing to do with being poor, there's no logical way to conclude that used motor oil is medicine. You can be poor and still understand that. But it just literally didn't matter how much evidence I gave to thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 10:32 PM
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Her replies essentially amount to "tHiS iS jUsT hOw We Do ThInGs In ThE cOuNtRy 🤪😜" bitch lives in a city. Eventually more people piled on and she deleted the post, absolutely learning nothing and almost certainly still determined to treat mange with used motor oil. A vet is out of the question of course, she's dumb so her daughter is also dumb and that's why she had an unfixed dog give birth to mangey pups. Dumb people are incapable of reason, they only understand other dumb ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:29 PM
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I never heard of this shit before in my life before a couple of hours ago. I had to Google it to find out it actually is a thing. I can't possibly imagine the logic or how this even got started
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:27 PM
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It's going to be used for ammo in a later post. How remains to be seen, but given previous trends almost certainly in some kind of "female sexuality bad" form.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 08:55 PM
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The latest chapter of "fuck do I hate people." I've been going back and forth with this dumb cunt for like half an hour trying to convince her to not cover newborn puppies in fucking used motor oil. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 08:46 PM
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I think that's a part of it for sure. But also the glasses and the hair too, even though it totally gives 80s coke dealer
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:06 PM
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I’ll put it this way, you don’t take precautions for things you sincerely doubt will happen. It doesn't have to do with "sincerely doubting will happen." I doubt I will get into a car accident each and every time I get in my car. I sincerely doubt I will have someone break into my house every time I leave. In fact, occasionally I have accidentally left a door unlocked and no one touched anything to my knowledge. According to your logic, I should never lock a door again. Right?? It is mitigating …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:25 AM
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I think it's disingenuous to conflate preparation with expectation. People don't use seatbelts because they expect to get in a crash. They do so in the event one happens. People don't lock their doors because they expect someone to steal their stuff. They do so to mitigate the odds of being a victim. You're trying to say having any precautions and awareness is an automatic assumption of guilt. I don't think that's "reasonable." I don't give my dog monthly preventatives because I expect her to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:05 AM
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I'm not sure how to answer a question about what is reasonable when it doesn't mean anything. Men can feel however they want and so can women. I don't have any feelings about the "reasonableness" thereof because it's pointless moralizing. The feelings are what they are. So a man can feel however he wants about how women look at him and treat him and it's not going to change why the women engage in that behavior in the first place. Same for the reverse I don't understand what it means to "demand"…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:56 AM
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I'm not ignoring it, I'm pointing out the disingenuousness of the framing. This isn't about "reasonable," this is about people not liking the decisions other people make. "I want to fuck you on date x so I'm going to try to make you feel badly for making me wait longer." That's not about what's "reasonable." It's about a man's feels. Your questions are similarly about feelings, not reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:31 AM
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I don't understand this obsession with "reasonable" by men on this sub. This is ultimately just opinion masquerading as fact for legitimacy. What is the point? Seriously, what meaningfully changes if someone does or doesn't think xyz is "reasonable." What actual impact does that have in real life? If some man thinks it's "reasonable" to paternity test his kid(s), that's his opinion. Other women thinking he's paranoid or whatever doesn't change how he feels. Likewise, a woman thinking it's "reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:00 AM
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I think it's a nice change of pace from the back-to-back Q4W: "Why are you lying about being straight???!!111" And "Why don't you think about the sex lives of 'average men' all the time???!! Gib empathy pls"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:52 AM
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Why is Gene Takavic so much hotter than Saul Goodman? Is this a "hear me out" or am I onto something here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:39 AM
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Men: casual use only 😎😌 Women: yeah, same Men:
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:56 PM
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I like the cut of your jib.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:06 AM
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I'm not sure what student debt has to do with needing men for "survival" in any sense. You know roommates exist, right?? You don't need to fuck a man for rent, and most women are not sex and the city caricatures who live in "expensive metropolises" and need men to "support their lifestyle." First-time homebuyers are now majority single women. This does not track with your bizarro world of girlbosses with Gucci bags in glass high-rises who need to, IDK.. sugar date?? Most women are average by def…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 04:01 AM
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The two have nothing to do with each other
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:24 AM
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I don't understand the idea that women would need to share men "for survival." A population decrease is not going to undo all of the modern technology developments of the last several centuries. We are not going to need men to build cabins in the woods from hand-hewn logs and hunt and fish to eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:11 AM
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It wasn't "racially charged." Is "tan" "racially charged?" Light skin isn't a race, wtknight.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 12:46 AM
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No, "we" aren't discussing anything, you are butting into a conversation you're not a part of. I'm the one who first mentioned commitment, so you don't get to tell me what "we" were discussing, much less in a way that tries to pretend like you can define my own focus The entire context of this sub-thread is very clearly not about "how committed he was to her," and is nonsensically trying to portray being in a relationship as not being commitment. So hook ups aren't commitment, and even relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:54 PM
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I posted a different one by this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:49 PM
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What are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:42 PM
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World's most realistic AI girlfriends Men truly aren't ready for it 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:33 PM
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I'm sorry, being partnered only counts as "commitment" if you're married? Cause the colloquial understanding of that word is being in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:41 PM
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Even for fiction it's a dumb story.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:23 AM
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Are you a time traveler? You know women work now, right? And so we don't need to marry some dude we don't want to fuck for his 50k?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:17 AM
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"I'm done having fun, I never ever want to feel that way again." - said no woman ever
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:28 AM
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Same, I never heard of dude before in my life before Megan started dating him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:39 AM
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Instagram: so like, this is kind of random and not comedy or hot guys with dogs or cool childfree dog moms or just cute ass dogs buuuuuutt... do you like tornadoes? 🥺 Me: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:36 AM
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If men in her tax bracket don't want to take her seriously, then why do they commit in the first place? You're so eager to slut shame her that you're not making any sense. This isn't Shariaville, women who "show their bodies" get commitment from men all the time. You know we have a prostitute first lady, right? You know the richest man in the world exclusively seeks out women who show their bodies for relationships and tries to hire them to have his kids, right?? Not sure where this idea comes f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:10 AM
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Right! They were in a full blown relationship. There's another dude on this post implying she was pumped and dumped. Good lord they just can't ever admit that these dudes ever commit to anyone. How could he cheat on a "pump and dump?" How can a "pump and dump" last several months? Gotta make it fit the narrative at all cost. Idk how any of that supports RP. Other than confirming that RP men are single losers. Matterfact, the fact that she left him at all disproves it directly. Because can't real…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:46 AM
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When was Megan "running the streets?" She didn't "try to" have a relationship with him, she actually did? I'm glad she'll "never find another Klay," he's a lame lightskin like Drake lmao and getting dogged out for it accordingly. He's a dork. The only thing he "proved" is that even the corny dudes will cheat. Huzzah. Ain't no teenagers gonna be checking for him in his 50's dude 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:11 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 01:11 AM
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🤣😭
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 12:00 AM
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I’m not appealing to emotion. Just stating facts. It's not a "fact" that a month-old aborted fetus is a "murdered child," be for real please. This is emotional, spiritual framing. Nothing more. Your rants about women are trite, tired, uninspired, and unoriginal. You haven't been able to engage directly on a single point I've said, instead going on and on about abortion - an obsession I've already called out. Feel free to have the last word.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:44 PM
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Your appeals to emotion don't move me because I don't subscribe to your spiritual worldview, in a number of ways. I will never be moved by your hysterics. You are barking up the wrong tree here trying to convince me to agree with your framing. My only point is that your absurd determination to turn so many topics into a rant about abortion speaks to a personal obsession, not reason. And your insistence that "proper perspective" is "tying everything and everything possible back to abortion" is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:30 PM
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I've noticed a trend where male behavior is presented as "biology," but female behavior is magically almost invariably result of socialization. That allows them to insist what women need to change because social media and dating apps are making us all delusional but men's affinity for youth and harems is natural and shouldn't be shamed as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:12 PM
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You know the saying about everything looking like nails when you're a hammer When you obsess over abortion you'll drag it into everything you see, no matter how badly you have to twist the logic to do so. This is a clear pattern of yours. Ironically, you're demonstrating the OP nicely by conflating "proper perspective" with "my opinion."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 10:53 PM
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MLK Jr. had a dream that one day you'd address the argument that was made, instead of the argument you want to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:14 PM
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Oh, isn't that just interesting. No such uncertainty when it comes to female attraction. No such nuance or quibbling, just an unequivocal declaration that the only reason why women aren't generally attracted to shorter men than ourselves is because of societal brainwashing. But men, of course... men's attraction has biological basis. When it comes to men's attraction, here we can acknowledge that yes, physical traits do matter. There are women with visible facial hair. The "rarity" of such is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:58 AM
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Is it "nurture" that men like developed breasts and don't like beards on women? A yes or no will do, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:40 AM
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This is the definition I'm using. Defining it so broad as to include any and all conditions that motivate one to take action is silly. I could call sneezing coercion in that case. Or yawning. It requires an external application of threat or force.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:36 AM
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I've not seen it outspoken in any way. Apart from grade school were everything could be picked on. Fat, freckles, too short, too tall, no. Not really. Whether they'd be "picked on" for it or not, my point is that it's not something most women are attracted to. So the idea that there's this statistically relevant contingent of women who would want to date men shorter than they are but don't primarily due to being "picked on" is silly. The main reason is lack of attraction, and this is basic sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:31 AM
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It's self-explanatory. If someone holds a gun to your head and says they'll kill you if you don't rape your mom, you are free to sit there and say it's your "natural state" to rape your mom. It would require you to completely ignore the definitions of words, but sure. You could absolutely express that opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:23 AM
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Behavior under duress is not one's "natural state."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:16 AM
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That's not an American thing. Most women do prefer men who are taller than them and probably wouldn't be attracted to men shorter than them. You genuinely find that a niche sentiment?? That's basic sexual dimorphism dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:12 AM
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This has very little to do with "American discourse" and much more to do with the rigid thinking and neuroticism of specific strains of neurodivergence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:06 AM
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Yes, for people like you, we need to ask questions like these. When I say that he clearly didn't mean it like that, it was a response to your interpretation of his words because he didn't write that at all. I just wanted to clarify that the fact that he didn't write that obviously wasn't enough for you to comprehend, he also didn't mean what you interpreted. Let's cut the fucking shit. Since you insist he didn't mean "polygamy," and since you are also presuming to speak for him as such, then you…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 07:20 AM
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Why does that matter in this case? He clearly didn't mean it like that. Why does it matter if people say what they mean? Is that a real question? And that is exactly his point; I don't know why you are unable to grasp that. This is incoherent. If he "clearly meant" "women having casual sex" then what do his references to "monogamy" and "finding value in regular men sharing their temperament and values" mean? They don't have anything to do with the other. Having casual sex isn't mutually exclusiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 07:06 AM
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Because that's invariably what men on this sub mean when they refer to "polygamy." Women having casual sex. The actual definition of polygamy is having more than one spouse. Virtually no one does that in the western world and almost no women want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:50 AM
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How many men do you think objectify women? At least every single one who watches porn but wouldn't respect the women they jerk off to, for starters. Addressing and engaging with my rebuttal isn't a matter of quantity. The sentiment exists. Men don't have to like, admire, love, or respect us as people to fuck us. If you have no rebuttal just say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 03:39 AM
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Not having committed relationships isn't being polygamous. It's not "polygamy" to have hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:30 AM
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A part of you and is you are not saying the same thing. You are being disingenuous. When I lost my baby teeth as a child, it would be dumb as fuck to say that "I lost myself." Furthermore, men wanting to cum in our holes frequently has nothing to do with who we are. Matter of fact, many men point to it as a fact of pride that they don't have to like us or care about us in any way - they can hate us, think we're stupid, not respect us, and hold us in utter contempt and yet still want to ejaculate…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:19 AM
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The way I cackled
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 11:24 PM
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Abso-fucking-lutely not
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 09:37 PM
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I know they're from Canada but I didn't know you were from Canada. Right on 🤘🏾I've seen you talk about NIN too. We probably have a decent amount of music in common. I've seen photos of Seattle and honestly places like that don't bother me too much but maybe that's because the residential neighborhoods still have so much of the old housing stock I like so much. Relatively speaking it's still a relatively older city compared to like Las Vegas or something. I think the retro-futuristic aesthetic is…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 08:54 PM
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I know people rave about the nature of the West and I'm sure it's every bit as impressive as it's talked up to, but it's not really me. I absolutely love the Midwest grittiness. The industrial districts I walk through, even the smell. I love industrial music and I just kind of identify with it spiritually, whether it's the aesthetic or sounds. The old concrete brutalist buildings, alongside art deco buildings, next to neighborhoods full of craftsman and Victorian and Italiante housing. The train…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 05:34 AM
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I grew up in the Midwest and southeast. Eventually I do want to move out west due to allergies and migraines though (barometric pressure swings practically make me bedridden 🙃). That's a crazy stat though. Never would have thought that. Interestingly enough my mom's three brothers (born in the pretty rural south) were never circumcised, and randomly one brother decided to get it done in his fifties. It... did not go well. He was in a wheelchair for a bit. Really silly shit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 04:41 AM
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Gender norms in recent Chinese history were at the worst at the height of the one-child policy, almost the complete opposite of natalism. Anything going on today is a direct result of that, not feminism or red-pill. You can't just mix-and-match entirely different societies with entirely different contexts and histories to use as supporting evidence for your theories about America. China is suffering because of China's ill-advised, short-sighted restrictions magnified by its sexism. Who could hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 03:29 AM
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I've only ever been with circumcised. I've never seen an uncircumcised penis before IRL my whole life. I guess due to familiarity I'd have to say I prefer them, but it's not that deep to me. I wouldn't circumcise a son and I don't think it should even be legal for minors. It's another casualty of religion and it's unnecessary mutilation. The only reason why we don't think of it as such is due to social conditioning but it's objectively super fucking weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 03:15 AM
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There is no permanent universal "future of gender norms." The most oppressive, gender-restrictive societies are the least successful. I don't really see that changing much since they are more interested in oppression than progress. I think there are far bigger existential threats to society that will make navel-gazing about "gender norms" pointless to care about, and will cause far more suffering to the people who were made. But that's a problem for the natalists, ain't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 03:01 AM
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You are arguing that not wanting to have kids is the result of a "social contagion." That is the opposite of a natural state. You don't really think that there's any way to simply not have a desire to not have kids internally, it must be the result of some kind of outside influence or brainwashing. You also do not appear to believe that it can be in one's rational self-interest to avoid having children even if one does have a desire for it, e.g. impossible for an rational actual cost/benefit ana…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 02:35 AM
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Seems like you're undermining your entire argument. If one needs to be "oppressed" into this "cohesion," this is clearly the unnatural state by definition. Not the "antinatalism" that you're claiming is the actual contagion that results from emancipation from this "cohesion." People don't need to be oppressed into their natural states. Their natural states are how they behave free of coercion. Furthermore, there's nothing more of a "gendered belief system" than these "defined courtship roles." Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 02:00 AM
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Please point out a time when "gender cohesion" has ever existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 11:42 PM
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Proof that women are okay sharing men 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 11:24 PM
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You’re still not really separating two things. I disagree that the "things" you ascribe to red-pill could be reasonably interpreted as red-pill, when pretty much no one is claiming them as such except when it comes time to make disingenuous posts like these about "underlying messages." If a guy says “women are stupid children who need to be dominated,” then yeah, ignore him. I’m not asking anyone to treat hate like wisdom. It's all part of the same "praxeology" that you insist we parse this supe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:50 AM
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I am arguing against your claim. Your claim is that women aren't addressing the "underlying message." My argument is the "underlying message" is your unreasonably charitable interpretation of what is actually said. Furthermore, it's extremely unreasonable to expect the recipients of such hate to give a shit about any "underlying message" in the first place, even if it does exist (which, again, I disagree that it does). Absolutely nothing prevents these men from saying the things you have said. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 02:53 AM
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I’m not gaslighting anything. You’re taking the most extreme internet version of RP The internet is pretty much the only place it exists, and if it's linked on the red-pill subreddit then I'm not going to accept your "No True Scotsman" rebuttal. This is just "objection, your honor/because it's devastating to my case." You don't get to define red-pill by the most misleadingly milquetoast terms while every other dude and his dad who abides by the "red-pill" label claims these specific "observation…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 02:06 AM
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I'm pretty sure the argument isn't "you're not allowed to notice" these "top men" being chosen, it's the hyperbolic rigid "top 20%" pathologizing and the insistence every man outside of this nebulously defined demographic is destined to be a dead-bedroomed cucked disrespected beta bucks who women will resentfully settle down with once we've ridden the cock carousel and been alpha widowed by Chad, wrapped up with a nice bow of misogyny that insists women are stupid delusional narcissistic childre…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 01:39 AM
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You don't have to be like that, but it sure helps! So can so many other things that aren't being like that. Like I said, the only point you have is trying to convince me for some odd reason that bad people can be exciting. It's not necessary no, but we humans can often be quite vulnerable to a good bit of dopamine trickery. Is it the only way to be 'exciting'? No, but it's perhaps one of the most effective ways to generate excitement. More of the same. I don't understand why this is such a big d…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 12:22 PM
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You should get a dictionary
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 12:02 PM
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I don't think we have to worry about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:52 AM
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