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Got any evidence that women are taking the kids away from men as opposed to men just choosing not to be involved? Also, the women I know have no problem with men in general, they don’t like the men that are misogynistic, bitter and resentful of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:51 AM
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No, it’s an aspect of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:56 AM
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Romantic relationships have a core friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:39 AM
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You said I “proved the point.” I assumed you meant the point of the OP. I wasn’t flat out disagreeing with the person I was responding to so I don’t understand your comment
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:21 AM
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The post says “…and nothing else”. That’s not all I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:50 AM
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I don’t give a fuck about status or money. I’m a loner introvert.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:13 PM
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Some, probably not very many, but there’s still some women that don’t care at all if you’re ugly if you treat them well. I’m not one of them. I want to be attracted to my partner. But also, a mid ugly man can become attractive because of their personality
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:12 PM
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I’m not sure why this is a reply to my comment. My entire point was you can’t make blanket statements about people
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:10 PM
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That’s not how women work. I know red pill has convinced you of it, but women aren’t just out there looking to “monkey branch” to the next best man
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:56 PM
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Stop basing reality off what you see on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:55 PM
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Yes, a homeless man has the possibility of bringing me joy. I sat and talked to one for an hour the other day. Nice guy. No “women” don’t look for looks money and status. Some women might, but that’s not universal. I’m in a discord that is literally full of people that are obsessed over a balding, average looking middle aged man with a dad bod purely because he makes us smile and laugh. His personality is what makes him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:57 PM
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“Most people don’t actually like eating salad” This is the problem with you red pillers. You think you can put everyone into a box. Many, many people love salads. I’m one of them. I crave vegetables. Women are not marrying men they don’t find attractive. Just because you think attraction is a binary, doesn’t make it so.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:52 PM
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You were doing so well and then you got to the incel rhetoric. Being around someone that brings you genuine joy cannot be replaced with “status”.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:28 PM
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I don’t think most guys even know how the men are treated. They’ve just created this story in their mind
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:26 PM
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But that’s what it turns into. They settled for you because you passed the looks threshold. You didn’t meet any of the other requirements
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:25 PM
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Why would you want to define yourself by whether or not you have sex?
/r/ExRedPill05/07/26 03:11 PM
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What they don’t realize is that relationships built on physical desire can end the same way. Physical attraction isn’t enough to keep a relationship alive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:40 PM
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It’s insecurity. Plain and simple
/r/ExRedPill04/07/26 12:05 AM
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Not necessarily. Weak, abusive and/or lazy men having wives and children is a negative to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:54 PM
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No. We live in a society and societies function better when we look out for and protect one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:28 PM
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But then you’d only get half or less of the resources that you were getting.
/r/RedPillWomen03/07/26 10:50 PM
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Women, not “females” and absolutely not.
/r/RedPillWomen03/07/26 10:15 PM
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No, that’s what you believe, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:23 PM
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Reported! 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:50 PM
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In the worst of those countries they aren’t even allowed to speak in public, so of course you aren’t hearing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:50 PM
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Hey OP, why is your flare purple pill when you’re clearly a black pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:00 PM
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This says so much about you. Attractive women are objects in your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:59 PM
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What does objectification mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:58 PM
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I ignore basically all men and women I do not know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:38 AM
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What’s cruel about not being accessible to random men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:23 AM
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The problem is, the people asking this question aren’t able to read vibes. So for them it’s best to just err on the side of caution
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:50 PM
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Not somewhere that I’ll have to be stuck with you for a time being, for example while riding the subway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:38 PM
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Women file for divorce more. Men tend to leave the relationship without filing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:57 AM
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It’s funny how we’re using one example to prove women aren’t capable of love but men are, but we’re conveniently ignoring all the men that leave their sick wife. Or what about all the men that cheat on their postpartum wives? What a great example of men’s true love. Or what about the men that leave their menopausal wife for someone 15+ years younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:56 AM
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What does it mean to “cancel men like that?” If a woman doesn’t only want to be seen as a means of sex, it makes sense to avoid men that only see them as that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:46 PM
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It definitely sounds like he’s been partaking in manosphere content since all studies show marriage benefit men far more than women. The oral sex thing is weird and if he can’t handle thinking about it he should just avoid the topic. To me personally, any man that is into traditional roles is a red flag since traditionally women must submit to their husbands.
/r/ExRedPill26/06/26 11:15 PM
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Can you give an example?
/r/ExRedPill26/06/26 10:48 PM
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Why does it matter? If their views are those of red pill, then they might as well be red pilled and avoid them at all costs.
/r/ExRedPill26/06/26 10:20 PM
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I don’t see it being claimed. Can you show me examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:06 PM
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Someone can be unappealing without being an asshole. I don’t think people are associating the two like you are claiming
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:20 PM
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The average woman is overweight, and most men claim they aren’t attracted to overweight women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:18 PM
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It literally does means all humans. Whether or not it should is another debate
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:24 PM
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That still doesn’t make it evil. Are you being serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:12 PM
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Mankind refers to the human race
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:11 PM
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Are breasts inserted inside your sexual organ making the size directly affecting the physical stimulation required to reach an orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:10 PM
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Female kind? Strange phrasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:06 PM
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Ok silly male
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:05 PM
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Silly males
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:05 PM
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I don’t consider liking big dicks evil lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:04 PM
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Size absolutely matters, TO ME!!! But guess what? I’m not every woman 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:49 PM
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I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not, but men created the 666 rule, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:48 PM
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Do you think this is actually comparable?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:46 PM
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I think you might be right, although I’ve seen women using females/men before too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:45 PM
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Females and men 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:35 PM
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In the scenario I gave, he agreed to be friends. That’s not deciding on your own
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:06 PM
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Basically a Christian traditional marriage. Wives submit to husbands
/r/ExRedPill25/06/26 02:29 AM
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How is being friends with a friend dangling a carrot? The mental gymnastics here is crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:44 PM
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He’s the one deceiving her. She sees him as a friend, why would she stop engaging? That’s not what friends do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:42 PM
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Ok…? What are you even talking about. If I say “sorry I only see you as a friend.” And you respond “I understand. We can stay friends.” That’s both people agreeing to be friends. If you agree to be friends but you’re secretly hoping it will lead to more, it’s you deceiving yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:22 PM
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How are you deceiving him if you tell him he’s only a friend? That’s the opposite of deceiving.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:16 PM
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You’re calling your examples leading, when I would call them generous and caring and as a woman have done the same thing. Is bringing takeout that I ordered and paid for “taking charge” or just being generous and thoughtful because I’m a woman? If I took the initiative to buy my man his favorite candies without being asked is this proxy for “leadership.” Or because I’m a woman, are these going to be labeled nurturing and caring?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:04 PM
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Nope, I have nothing substantial to contribute. Men that believe the MRA lies you’re parroting don’t have to worry about this problem as no woman will ever choose to have a child with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 10:55 PM
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Are you even in a relationship? Do you know how relationships work? This is like talking to a computer programmed on misconstrued MRA talking points.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:55 PM
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Literally nothing you’ve said aligns with reality. I honestly don’t think you’ll ever have to concern yourself over your hypothetical child and your hypothetical reverse gender trad wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:31 PM
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Where’s your source for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:28 PM
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Just fyi, coercive sex is NOT consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:57 AM
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I think it’s more to do with insecurity. If a man is bisexual then being with a woman might not satisfy them sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:42 PM
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How immature are you to bring up the size of his dick as if that somehow entitles him to more women. You won’t be getting that dick once his new wife starts pouting that’s she’s not getting enough of his attention.
/r/RedPillWomen21/06/26 03:16 PM
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Wrong about what a bangmaid is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:08 AM
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You’re just flat out wrong and you didn’t answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:14 PM
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It’s what the word means. Do you think a wife is obligated to supply sex whenever the husband wants? Or do you believe sex should be a mutually enjoyable activity that only occurs when both people want it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:07 PM
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Men worry about being used for money. Women worry about being used for sex. It’s not that hard to understand the example used in their comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:43 PM
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This reads like AI, but it’s pretty spot on
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:38 PM
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No women say being a nice person alone will get you laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:57 PM
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Aww that’s amazing. Congratulations
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:27 PM
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You literally just described splitting childcare with your wife. So you proved my point that you never had all the demands fall on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:23 PM
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My husband was not understanding. I never even said no, just “let me sleep for a little longer”. He’d complain that he had to beg me for sex, when in reality if he would just respect my answer, I’d willingly have sex with him when less exhausted or touched out. That’s another thing, men like the commenter above usually recognize being touch starved, but not being touched out. We’re now separated.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:17 PM
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Spoken like someone who’s never had all the demands of an infant and child fall directly on them both physically and mentally
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:56 PM
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I’m what most people would consider an attractive woman, and I don’t go around assuming every man just wants to be with me. Sure, some men misinterpret things, but how narcissistic is it to assume that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:18 AM
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This is such a weird thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:57 AM
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You don’t have to be sexually attracted to women to acknowledge that they are good looking
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:42 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:31 AM
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Many women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:26 AM
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Where are you getting those stats from?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:05 PM
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So you believe cops should be able to murder people and that criminals don’t have a right to a trial?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:43 PM
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I’ve always seen men protecting criminals. Well, as long as the criminal was a man or a woman that was charged with statutory rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:17 PM
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People were upset that he was murdered by cops. He had a right to a trial.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:16 PM
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Going to singles events? Idk it’s irrelevant. Women have always continued to maintain their looks after marriage. Simply existing and looking good isn’t advertisement. Your OP compared us to cars, but the more accurate comparison to women looking good when in a relationship would be keeping your car washed and waxed after purchasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:32 PM
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Having a body is not advertising it. “Advertising” yourself would be posting on dating sites/apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:22 PM
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You need praise for cleaning your own mess?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:28 PM
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Is the point of your post to prove women deserve abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:23 PM
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Once again: nobody deserves a relationship. Nobody deserves abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:40 PM
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I think you’re supposed to divorce your husband now in order to hold him “accountable” for his past. Apparently that’s the red pill way lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:31 PM
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If sex was safe, consensual and no child came from it, what accountability does sex need to have?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:28 PM
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How is now talking about explicit sexual details manipulation?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:27 PM
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Then the term high value is absolutely meaningless and y’all can claim any man is high value in order to validate your claim that women only choose high value men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:20 PM
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It’s funny how the goal posts shifts from an objective “high league” to now subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:56 PM
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So when men say “men aren’t allowed to have preferences” it’s not that they aren’t allowed to, but they frame them like this, as if their preferences should be an objective standard for all men. Then they degrade the women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:19 AM
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I’m sorry, but I’m not sure what I’m being told that for. He literally said that I’m just “pretending to be logical.” And implied that I’m just being emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:42 PM
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You’re having a hard time using logic here. You’re trying to interpret the study to mean all men are logical and all women are emotional. What it really means is at the top end of the neurotic scale, there would be more women than men. These are statistical averages, the scale overlaps significantly. To put that into perspective, there are millions of men that are more “neurotic” than the average woman, and millions of women more emotionally stable than the average man. Also, let’s not forget th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 11:19 PM
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Across most major studies, the difference in Neuroticism between men and women has an effect size of approximately d = 0.40. • d = 0.2 is considered a "small" difference. • d = 0.5 is a "moderate" difference. • d = 0.8 is a "large" difference. the "average" So, the “average” woman scores higher than about 66% of men. However, there is a 74% overlap between the two groups, meaning that in any random pairing of a man and a woman, the woman will score higher only about 61% of the time. Edit to add:…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 10:24 PM
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It’s funny how you chose to interpret that study
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 10:04 PM
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It’s expensive and has high potential to be overfilled and migrate. That’s irrelevant though since I said cosmetic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:12 AM
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How is getting cosmetic surgery considered easy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:01 AM
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This post is basically a red pill circle jerk
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:43 PM
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Why would it?
/r/ExRedPill10/02/26 10:49 PM
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If I granted women have a subconscious strategy, then it would still support my position that they are not being dishonest
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:41 PM
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Most women don’t have a sexual strategy so nothing to be dishonest about
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:00 PM
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This is strange. You are arguing against something I never even said. Women can be shitty people and shitty spouses.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:30 PM
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Did you know that alimony is only awarded in like 10% of divorces? It would be pretty stupid for 90% of women to divorce in hopes of living off of alimony. How many women do you believe are participating in sex tourism in “Bali, Rome or Bangkok”?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:02 PM
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Do you honestly think most women divorce because they get bored?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:46 PM
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This is just so stupid, it’s not how people work. I had sex with complete losers that were short and unattractive just because in that time and place they appealed to me. I’ve also had several dates with Chads (using incel lingo makes me cringe) before I’ve had sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:42 PM
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Good people don’t intentionally deceive others to get what they want out of them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:06 PM
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You do realize you aren’t a good person, right? And that that’s the reason you have to deceive them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:07 PM
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You’re acting like being NEET is some genetic disease or something. You’re literally just deciding to do absolutely nothing with your life and then wonder why women aren’t interested in you. Also, being NEET is directly related to your personality. It’s your personality that led to this decision
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 01:26 PM
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Not seeing someone as a sexual prospect does not mean you see them as a service.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 05:36 AM
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Why are women supposed to consider the sexuality of men they aren’t interested in dating, and why do you think that is seeing them as less than human?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 05:06 AM
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No I would not wonder that because I’d assume he knew me well enough to know I don’t care about that. I definitely do compare myself and feel insecure at times, but I also know that’s primarily a me issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:38 AM
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I guess I have nothing more to add since you’re coming from a perspective that places sex as the number one priority and I cannot relate to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:14 AM
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Does he treat me the way I want to be treated? That’s the question that matters. Like if he was always sending his ex roses at work, but he never sent them to me, I would not care because that’s not something I want in a relationship. The comparison to past relationships is unnecessary, just don’t accept treatment that you think is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:10 AM
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Wait, what? Do you think the majority of women are lesbians?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:04 AM
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So sexual attraction is the only kind of attraction that matters?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:59 AM
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I don’t understand
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:54 AM
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Now what does that have to do with anything in my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:40 AM
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Are you saying women only pretend to desire their partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:40 AM
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But they sure can pretend to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:30 AM
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It should matter because you cannot expect to replicate past relationships. You’re supposed to grow and change and nothing can ever be exactly the same. I would be crazy for expecting the exact same relationship with my husband that he had with an ex. We’re different people, the relationship will develop in unique way. You cannot recreate a past relationship. But I’m going to discontinue this conversation because you’ve already reached an opinion that you’re not willing to dissect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:11 AM
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What is being blue balled?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:06 AM
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So it’s literally all about sex. Y’all need to just get a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:01 AM
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So are they dating the woman, or just paying for sex? Because you’re making it seem like they are just paying for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:59 AM
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But did he put in the exact same input as the first guy? You can’t expect exactly the same output unless the input is exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:58 AM
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Unless the circumstances and every single detail were exactly the same, there’s no way to determine its worse. Like, is the second guy planning the exact same dates making the exact same jokes making the exact same moves as the first guy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:53 AM
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No I don’t understand. Someone wanting something and then not getting it, doesn’t mean the treatment is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:50 AM
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How is it worse though? I don’t understand what makes it worse
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:43 AM
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Why do you think different equals worse? Circumstances are going to be different which will create different timelines. It’s ridiculous to think that you can exactly replicate a different relationship with a different person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:35 AM
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I’ve seen no evidence to suggest that. Men have always been in charge, POC have not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 12:36 AM
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It literally is. Do you think men wanting to have sex with women is love?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:31 PM
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That’s exactly the same for women. Most love isn’t completely selfless. Only a parent’s love is unconditional. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:25 PM
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Why do you think women don’t see men as human beings?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:07 PM
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If there wasn’t systemic racism in our justice system you might have a good “gotcha” point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:48 PM
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Sure, if it was a widespread problem. But that’s not the case. We know something like 90% of violent crimes are perpetrated by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:57 PM
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This is why I can’t equivocate the 2. The misogyny that I most commonly and casually see from men is usually degrading women for having sex. Referring to women as bitches and hoes. Overly sexualizing and objectifying women. Making jokes about hating being married to their wife. Dismissing women’s genuine feelings and saying it “must be that time of the month.” Now, when women declare “I hate men,” it’s usually after hearing about a violent act committed by a man. Or a reaction to seeing men degr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:55 PM
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You have a red pill flair, so what about awalt?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:45 PM
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Your argument relies on stereotypes, not biology or evidence. Men are not “impartial without emotions,” and women are not “emotion over logic.” Both sexes experience emotion and use reason. Testosterone doesn’t remove emotion; it increases aggression, risk-taking, and impulsivity. Those are emotional drivers, not pure logic. The dog analogy doesn’t hold up. In real emergencies, the priority is threat assessment and protection, and both men and women do this. Women routinely place themselves betw…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:37 PM
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Why should men lead? Don’t mothers also protect? What do you mean by provide? Is that only in a financial sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:56 PM
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I’d love to see that study and wonder what the metric for happiness is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:45 AM
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Then stay single if that’s how you feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:46 PM
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This isn’t misandrist content. This is homophobia and misogyny. Are women also homophobic misogynists? Yes, but so are men at an even higher rate so it’s funny that you blame this on women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:11 PM
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How are men harmed by young women not dating them? What policies have ever been put in place prohibiting older men from dating younger?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:04 PM
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Your example doesn’t really work here. That Christian homophobe spreads hate and votes based on their beliefs which ultimately can affect the secular person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:09 PM
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What makes you think it’s so common?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:30 PM
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But that’s not what the guy I was responding to said. Go read his comments. He said if they are both ugly their marriage is meaningless
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:20 PM
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Prime example of what she was talking about. You’re really placing looks as the number one factor of whether a relationship is successful. So I guess two unattractive people, no matter how happy they are, just have a meaningless marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 09:13 PM
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So you just argue for the sake of arguing. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 01:43 AM
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It’s funny that you’d comment this as you and I had a discussion where I told you that same thing and you disagreed. You claimed leaving my ex meant my love was conditional. It’s been a long time since we’ve had this discussion so possibly you’ve changed your mind since then, it’s just funny to see the 180.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 06:12 PM
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You’re conflating wanting someone competent that can successfully lead, with wanting to be dominated and lead. It’s only the last century or so that women have been given the ability to choose their partner. Attraction was never a factor in women’s partners and sex was not something women could freely participate in, sex was done to them. Once women began to have the ability to choose their partners, if able to they would choose men with status/power because that was literally the only way for w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 07:53 PM
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I guarantee progressive women do not want a man to lead. They want a man they don’t have to mother and that’s competent on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 03:45 PM
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Can you define hypergamous?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 02:06 PM
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You think most rape victims are posting about it on social media? You really aren’t living in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:50 AM
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That doesn’t happen
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:47 AM
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You describe yourself as, what would seem like, a below average man, but yet you “would kill” for an above average woman. This seems hypergamous by red pill standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 04:26 AM
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There’s still a gender pay gap where women are making 84 cents on the dollar to what men do in the same position. So you think people should only have sex once they are married? How would this be enforced?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 05:39 PM
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Women aren’t paid more. You have a problem with society being ok with men and women remaining unmarried?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 05:24 PM
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Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 05:15 PM
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ChatGPT. Not worthy of a thought out response. Defining your value to a woman based on her sexual past is insecurity. I won’t be responding anymore as using AI is just so lazy and unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 09:16 PM
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I can understand the words you’re saying, however it’s not a fact. Sex does not equal value. Willingness to have sex with someone has no correlation to how much you value them. Marriage isn’t a man paying for sex with a ring. It’s 2 people choosing a partnership. Past sexual partners, has literally nothing to do with current or future partners. Commitment is shown with loyalty, respect and care, not with a sex timeline.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:39 PM
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So in your mind, sex is something that women sale to men? I can’t with this argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:30 PM
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Explain your reasoning
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:22 PM
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How can all men be held to the same when every relationship progresses differently? No 2 relationships are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:56 PM
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You felt chemical reactions in your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 06:04 PM
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Nah. We’ll be dead when we die. Nothing can be proven after death.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 11:58 AM
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Can you show me one?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 05:07 AM
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Souls don’t exist, and not everything can be fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:40 PM
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Where did you get the idea that dismantling the patriarchy is simply reversing gender roles? I suggest you do much more research.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:35 PM
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You didn’t answer my question. You don’t have to date anyone. Feel free to go your own way. We won’t force you to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:21 PM
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Can you list some things that you think the average man does that an average woman has never done?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:55 PM
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What kind of niceness do you see women feeling entitled to and being manipulative in order to get it? Also, how are they the ones making your niceness transactional?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:33 PM
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You are supposed to learn from the past, not be stuck in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:49 PM
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She became depressed living as a man when she’s a woman. Kinda like the experience of trans people before they transition. Makes complete sense. Also, I highly doubt she was completely passing and was actually perceived as a man by everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 01:20 PM
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You do realize your “personal preference” is very superficial, right? If looks are the foundation for attraction, as soon your looks change even the slightest, that attraction will crumble.
/r/ExRedPill03/08/25 08:45 PM
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You mean physical attraction? Being attracted to quality traits is attraction, but for some reason you’re only counting looks based attraction. Why?
/r/ExRedPill03/08/25 01:15 AM
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Why? Exciting is temporary and you can be sexy and stable without sexy being the primary reason they are with you.
/r/ExRedPill02/08/25 07:22 PM
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So you’d rather be with someone who sees you as a temporary means of excitement rather than a loving life partner? That’s some strange logic
/r/ExRedPill02/08/25 07:04 PM
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Knowing women You clearly don’t know women if that’s what you think
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:27 PM
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She didn’t say anything about “random” women. She specifically said “in platonic relationships.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:06 PM
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If I remember correctly, there’s been studies shown that many religious people get married early for the sole purpose of being able to have sex without sinning. So that defeats your entire post.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 04:13 PM
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How is it being played if you get what you wanted out of the encounter?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:50 AM
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This is refreshingly normal and healthy. We don’t become blind when we get in a relationship. It’s ok to think someone is attractive. Acting on it is what’s wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:47 PM
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Why do you think women want control over men? If a man is only with me for sex, what’s keeping him from leaving the second someone else comes around offering sex? It doesn’t sounds like a good source of control, even if women are seeking control.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:55 PM
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The real privilege in society is male and white. Female privilege gets us free drinks. Male white privilege gets rapists into positions of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:49 AM
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Society now is better than it’s ever been.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:10 AM
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Have a look through Reddit at all the “my wife got fat” or “ I found out my wife’s sexual past and I no longer feel the same about her” posts. Nobody loves unconditionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:09 AM
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Get off the gospels and enter into 2025. Women are no longer property passed on from father to husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:07 AM
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I highly disagree that this scenario will ever become common. What do you mean by “race transition”?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:44 AM
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Is this supposed to be some kind of gender reversal “gotcha” questions? I have no idea how it could be, but this is an insane scenario that most men or women would never agree to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:36 AM
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Not having supportive friends is oppression?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 12:04 AM
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Is this a real tweet?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 12:02 AM
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No. Visceral disgust comes from bad hygiene/smell or behaviors and personality. I’ve never felt disgust based on looks alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:24 AM
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Are you always this anal? You interpreted my comment in an all encompassing general sense, instead of in the context of the conversation. Neither one are necessarily wrong, and it doesn’t hurt to ask clarifying questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:08 PM
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I was speaking about the specific comment I had responded to. If someone loves tattoos, and it makes them happy, then they should value that over the possibility that some guy might think she’s “easy” because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:47 PM
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Nobody said hedonism. My point was that we shouldn’t make decisions based on superficial stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:35 PM
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Feminism isn’t “hating men.” But I can understand how men that think women should be subservient and are beneath men in a hierarchy, would think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:28 PM
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You can be wary but also believe in equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:42 PM
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The men they are voting to let into the country, are no more violent than the men born here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:30 PM
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Can’t they say the same? “I’m rightfully painting a negative picture of toxic masculinity and misogynists”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:29 PM
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No, it’s in our best self interest to do what makes us happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:59 AM
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Promiscuous men (high value according to rp) end up with promiscuous women. If a man had their hoe stage and got to experience having fun and casual sex, they don’t care if women have experienced it as well. It’s men that didn’t get that experience that care
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:26 PM
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You have no idea lol. You’re speaking from no experience. I’m speaking from lived experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:19 PM
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My man meets all the 666 requirements and he chose me. He’s not perfect and we have our issues, but I think most people would think he’s high value. He chose me, a single mom (at the time), relatively high body count, tattoos, and while I’m pretty easygoing, I’m not what you’d typically describe as submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:20 PM
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I know what the men that meet your “high value” requirements that I’ve been with wanted, and it’s not what y’all on this sub describe. You all have a trad con fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:15 PM
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Most men that you guys think are “high value” do not care about body count, tattoos or being submissive. They want someone compatible with themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:11 PM
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That’s how I feel about body count. Men say they will never date a woman with a high count, but how would they ever know?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:51 PM
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See my original comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 08:49 PM
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Racism is not ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 08:32 PM
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White people have never been enslaved and oppressed by black people. There is no systematic discrimination by black people against white people. It’s just simple racism. If you attempt to pull up statistics to support your racism, you’d be purposely ignoring the generational poverty and systemic racism targeting black people, that is the underlying cause of the statistics that are always parroted by racists.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 08:19 PM
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You literally just proved it wasn’t bigotry lmao. But ok, cool story, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:52 PM
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Unreasonable is the key word, and what makes it NOT bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:43 PM
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No, it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:37 PM
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When black people say that about white people, it honestly stings, but then I consider their history and understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:05 PM
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Ok. I know of many people that are against lgbtq, are they not normal human beings?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 07:35 PM
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Having friends that are lgbtq doesn’t make you a part of it. It just makes you an ally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 05:00 PM
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What the hell does this even mean? You can’t choose to be gay. Are you saying become an ally?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:41 PM
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If you’re claiming women don’t face social stigma in having dating standards, you’re disingenuous
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:39 PM
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So what? Have whatever standards you want. Men are constantly shaming women for having standards, but that’s not stopping them. Be confident in your misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:24 PM
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I’m not understanding how raising individual standards equates taking away women’s right or how you interpret “men, raise your standards” to mean rollback women’s rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:08 PM
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What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:02 PM
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Average women are 100% attracted to average men. They just aren’t attracted to all average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:58 PM
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Read the entire link where it said men are more likely to drive without a license which will alter your numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:50 AM
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Read your entire link please. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:44 AM
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Stereotypes say women are bad drivers; statistics show men cause more accidents. Stereotypes say women are more talkative; studies show men only perceive women as talking more, but in reality they don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:44 PM
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Why wouldn’t you date a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:49 PM
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What was delusional about that comment? It seems like you just took an opportunity to try to put down and insult a woman for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:56 AM
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What was the point of this comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:41 AM
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Nobody deserves to be cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:39 PM
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That’s a lie. For most people, cheating isn’t usually the first thing done when they feel neglected.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:38 PM
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Men feel emasculated or disrespected when women point out their neglected needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:36 PM
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Most women don’t want to be valued for their vagina. I would rather a man have easy access to sex, that way if he shows interest in me, it would be interest in me as a whole and not just to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:29 PM
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Should cheating be the first step for women when any of her needs are not met?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:26 PM
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I didn’t say they don’t. But they all fit snugly around a tampon.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:06 AM
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Every vaginas default state will be snug around a penis. Look at the size of a tampon, no penis is that thin, yet a tampon fits in and fits snug as you not fall out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:55 PM
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Adolescence was actually inspired by news reports of knife crimes from young boys, according to my quick little research.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:39 PM
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If a 19 year old is dating someone old enough to be their dad, they for sure have some kind of mental health issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 04:10 AM
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No. No women are having babies for a $400 monthly check. Most likely they were not careful, got pregnant and realized the guys weren’t someone they wanted to stay together with and left. Let’s be realistic.
/r/ExRedPill23/03/25 01:42 PM
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From the way you speak about them, you’ve never spent any significant amount of time around them in order to learn about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:59 AM
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Where do you get this crazy idea from? Do you never leave your house? How do you have such an unrealistic, extreme idea of what women and relationships are like? Do you live on a deserted island with manosphere podcasters as your only contact?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:23 AM
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You’re being willfully ignorant if you truly believe that the term incel has not developed to mean men that hold black pill ideology. I didn’t sexually shame anyone. I explicitly said it has nothing to do with whether they have sex or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:06 PM
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People don’t hate incels because they don’t have sex. They hate incels because incels hate women. If you don’t hate women, don’t identify yourself as an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 06:42 AM
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I think it’s against the rules to link other subs so you might want to edit or delete your comment
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 06:10 AM
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No. The incels that fantasize about it are posted on incel tears, which is basically a sub calling out incels for their hatred of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 05:57 AM
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I’m sure she wasn’t talking about your average nerdy shy virgin, but rather the incels that get posted on incel tears that fantasize about raping and torturing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 05:47 AM
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Once again, men are shamed for wanting to be submissive. Men must be dominant according to the manosphere, so why do you think you should see men outright admitting to something they would be shamed for? Look up female dom sex work. Female doms are very popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 11:51 PM
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Oh I misread, I have never heard that. I’ve heard the exact opposite actually. Don’t come at me, but I literally just saw a TikTok that said if you want to dom as a woman, all you have to do is create a twitter account with the word “mistress” in it and your DMs will be going crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 11:20 PM
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Men have a hard time finding a partner in general, why would you think this would be an exception?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 11:02 PM
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But it’s not extremely low. Men don’t admit it to other men because you accuse them of being gay, which is absurd. Having sex with women is not gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 10:44 PM
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Do you know what it means to be gay? In no definition of the word is having sex with a woman gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 10:19 PM
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Huh? It’s said time and time again that something being unwanted or not consented to, is what makes it creepy or harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:11 AM
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Kinda like how red pillers turn black pill or mgtow? And how it’s never their fault but the fault of the evil female nature or “soyciety”?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:04 PM
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In my experience, a very high percentage of women are not like this. Nearly every woman I know works and contributes some to all of their families income.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 04:28 AM
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It absolutely is victim blaming. Asking someone to take accountability for another persons actions, is displacing the blame. A rapist rapes, that’s what they do. If I were “more responsible” and not put myself in the position to be raped, what difference does that make to the next woman that finds herself in that position? If someone wants to cause harm to another, they will find ways to make it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 03:36 AM
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If you had trust in our justice system, you wouldn’t need a consent form.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:52 AM
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No I don’t think I’m impacted from it, in fact when I think about it, I don’t feel any emotion. Although I could definitely be repressing trauma from it. That being said, this is my experience only. Rape is a very traumatic experience and should never be trivialized.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:49 AM
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I’m not knowledgeable on whether or not this would hold up in a court. I was speaking hypothetically on the assumption that it would hold up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:37 AM
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Why would men like this not want to get consent for sex, and then use it as a free for all to get as rough as he wants and break any boundaries since he now basically has immunity from being accused of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:32 AM
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I genuinely do not understand what you are getting at by asking if i can objectively reflect on it. I’m going to assume you are meaning look back and accept responsibility, is this an accurate assumption?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:30 AM
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Can you just say the point you’re trying to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:14 AM
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I was raped. I willingly had sex with him. Then he started getting too rough and hurting me. I told him to stop but he didn’t. I then got up and tried to get dressed. He then picked me up and threw me on the bed and held me down until he finished. If I would have signed a consent, would that have somehow made the rape part consensual?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:53 AM
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And there’s so many kids being born into marriages and growing up witnessing domestic violence. There’s so many kids born in marriages that had to experience their parents divorcing. Traditional marriages incentivize staying in abusive marriages and people cheating on their spouses. Not allowing premarital sex incentives people to rush into marriages with the wrong people in order to have sex. In reality, there’s going to be societal issues no matter what, so why not just stop shaming sexuality …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:45 AM
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Wow. That’s a lot of indoctrination speaking. All you’re saying is how you think it should be, but not explaining how it’s immoral for someone to not have those beliefs. Sex is a form of intimacy. Sex is a form of pleasure. Sex is a way to connect. Sex is a fun activity. Sex is a way to produce offspring. No matter how you see sex, as long as it’s consensual, there’s literally nothing immoral about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:07 PM
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How is sex before marriage inherently immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:11 PM
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lol are you being sarcastic?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 08:27 PM
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Can you explain what you are classifying as wants vs needs?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 07:49 PM
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You’re describing physical traits, which in my opinion is the only true expression of femininity and masculinity. All characteristics that typically are associated with femininity and masculinity are very commonly seen in both sexes so it makes little sense to continue to try to force people into these boxes based on their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:32 PM
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Why do you focus so much on changing women instead of changing your fellow men? Start telling men to not fuck just anyone with a vagina regardless of whether or not they actually like the person, or even attracted to them. Tell men to stop being so easy and just dropping their boxers for anyone that will allow it. If men would actually look at woman as individuals and be selective, the problem you’re complaining about would be solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:00 AM
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Real men love receiving massages. You clearly know nothing about being in a relationship with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:24 AM
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Virginity is meaningless. My first time was horrible, but I don’t regret it because it was just an experience I had that didn’t change anything about myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 10:15 PM
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They could still choose no woman over the only woman that said yes. You’re not forced to do anything. You willingly choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:54 AM
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So he was forced to go up to the gates?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 10:57 PM
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Was he choosing the gates he knocked on? Or was he forced?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 10:41 PM
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I didn’t say women aren’t the gate keepers. For the sake of the argument I’ll grant you that they are. But were these men forced to choose the women that are gate keeping? Or did the men first choose whose gate to wait at for a chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 10:15 PM
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A woman can’t gate keep, if there’s nobody at the gate. Stop waiting at the gate of just any woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:30 PM
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I think women definitely worry about pleasing their SO, but without as much focus on comparing themselves to his past partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 12:30 AM
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Sexually? Yes, possibly. I’m not really sure but I do hear more men worry about being compared to other men than I do women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 12:20 AM
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I seem to be in the minority with the women here. If I’m honest with myself, my reasoning is probably rooted in insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 12:04 AM
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With a woman. We have the same equipment so cheating with a woman means that mine wasn’t good enough. But if it was with a man, I just didn’t have the equipment he wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 11:40 PM
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expects her man to be the birth giver Make up a better story next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 05:16 AM
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What makes these women masculine? Are they wearing cargo pants, work boots and their chest bound?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 05:04 AM
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Women still are 100% discriminated against, that was the purpose of DEI. Women aren’t expecting “higher ranking” men. Like I said before, some people might have higher standards than you feel they should, but average men are in relationships with average women. The majority of marriages are between people of similar social/financial class.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:34 PM
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We can see through history that the act of hypergamy declines as women gain the ability to earn and survive in society without being dependent on a man. There’s always going to be women and men that have higher standards than you feel they deserve. But it’s not some biological trait in women, and it’s not something that’s going to “doom” men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 05:16 PM
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Hypergamy only exists as a result of male oppression of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 05:08 PM
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How do you know what women’s friends are telling them? If you’re not a woman, you’re probably not privy to what goes on in women’s inner circles. I’ve seen women advise each other time and time again after a failed relationship to take a break from dating and just focus on themselves. Get their emotional healing and life in order. Sure there’s many “options” out there. But if a woman is only encountering bad options, it’s pretty normal to introspect on why you’re only attracting the guys you don…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:46 PM
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I don’t think most people set rules before they move in together besides simple chore and financial division. After you move in with someone you realize their habits. Just like my sock example. Or even people’s cleanliness standards are something you really learn after moving in. That’s where the nagging comes in. It’s not criticism, like your example, but repeatedly asking for something, and then it not being done. If your SO asks something of you that’s reasonable, why not do it? Back to your …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 10:06 PM
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That’s not generally what I hear as nagging. Wife: “can you stop leaving your dirty socks on the floor” Husband: “yeah, sure”. Leaves socks on the floor Rinse and repeat 20 times. Husband to friends: “I’m so sick of my wife nagging me about my socks.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:39 PM
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By listen, I don’t man obey. But yes I would listen to his needs or wants and do what I can. If he demands it, absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:27 PM
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It depends on your definition. Many men consider nagging to be when a woman asks them to do/for something more than once. Which, sure, I guess we can say that it’s more common with women, but the question is, why? Would nagging exist if men listened to what their SO asks of them? I personally find any man that uses the term nagging a red flag because it tells me their exs had to basically harass him to get him to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:19 PM
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Definitely not the emotional manipulation. Men are more likely to not narcissists and they are masters at emotional manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:14 PM
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You want to bring back women being killed because of false accusations of witchcraft?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 02:39 AM
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But you just said they shouldn’t be used as evidence 😭
/r/ExRedPill16/01/25 12:43 AM
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But the post is about “high value” men and by trp standards celebrities are as high value as they come.
/r/ExRedPill16/01/25 12:41 AM
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Huh? I have no idea what this has to do with my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 02:49 AM
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Having a committed relationship isn’t “putting in work for sex.” If someone is making you work for sex, you’re not desirable. Committed relationships, for many people, are formed because they enjoy the sex and are compatible with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 01:51 AM
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You’re trying to engage in hook up culture. How can you expect any woman to take you seriously? How would you expect any woman to trust you enough to commit to them in order for them to give you children or give you wifey treatment when other women didn’t have to? How could take you seriously enough to risk their youth and fertility on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 01:24 AM
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That’s a movie, not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:00 AM
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But how can you prove this? Men are more likely to remarry after divorce or the loss of their spouse. Many people have a person in their life that they loved and never got over. I’ve never seen any evidence to back up your claim. Also love is a feeling. So we literally love people because of how they make us feel. Something about them makes us feel in love with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:59 PM
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This is just a rant based on fee fees. There can be an argument on both sides that the other gender isn’t capable of real love. But it’s just not true; there’s no evidence that men and women love differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:42 PM
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If men love the women, why is it said over and over again on this sub that men primarily enter into relationships for easier access to sex? Men love the way women make them feel through sex. They don’t actually love the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:37 PM
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Umm age gap relationships have higher probability of divorce too lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:53 PM
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That if is a big one. Alimony is rare nowadays, so why do you think it affects the way assets are divided in the case of affairs? I’m a woman, who’s never cheated, but been cheated on, and I believe it shouldn’t matter in a divorce. Especially if there’s kids involved. Cheating doesn’t make you lose your rights to your children, so walking away from a marriage with nothing hurts the child while in your custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 09:15 PM
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Those are horrible things to say. I spend entirely too much time online, and in feminist’s spaces, but I’ve yet to see a single comment like this. It seems like rage bait intentionally targeting audiences like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:06 PM
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Well that would explain why you’ve never felt romance from a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:35 AM
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Such fragile masculinity. Every man on here is stating similar things to what I said. Romance is expressions of love, nothing to do with gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:33 AM
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Have you ever been in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:05 AM
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It’s all things most humans want lmao, this post and others are full of men expressing how they want to be loved. It has nothing to do with being male or female. You’re a rare individual that doesn’t want to be loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:51 AM
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lol you seem to have a very fragile manhood. To me, and most every other commenter here, romance is acts of love. Maybe, rubbing your feet after a long day at work, bringing you a drink without you having to ask, being in tune with your moods and just quietly cuddling you when you’re mentally exhausted, telling you how much they love and admire you and all the qualities they love about you, buying you that one thing you’ve been wanting but felt guilty wasting money on etc. If these things make y…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:43 AM
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What do you think romance is?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:25 AM
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Same thing with any other gesture they you mentioned lol. Doing something because you’re being paid is different than doing something for someone because you love them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:35 AM
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And about the love languages, I’ve heard the same thing, that basically it was to guilt women into having sex with their husbands due to their love language being physical touch and rejecting sex would be rejecting their love.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:33 AM
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I agree it’s the thought behind it, so all of the examples you gave in your original comment could definitely be seen as romance if the thought behind it was one of love. I mean, you technically could hire someone to write a love poem or song for you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:30 AM
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I’m not disagreeing with you or any other commenters. I’m merely more interested in their personal opinion rather than the literal definition
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:28 AM
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It was a genuine question. You must be in the mood because you continue to comment
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:21 AM
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Thank you. I agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:19 AM
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Are you 13? Grow up
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:18 AM
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Can you give some examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:08 AM
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I get it. It would be lovely to share a hobby with my SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:06 AM
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Why comment if you’re not going to respond to the actual post?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:05 AM
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You seem to differ from other men, at least so far in this post and men I know in real life. You mention acts of service, I feel like the things you mention are acts of service as it’s making something for you, but with a mixture of words of affirmation throw in. (I’m assuming since you mentioned acts of service that you are referring to love languages.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:04 AM
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What about this makes it romantic? This is something you could do with just a friend, does that take away from the romance aspect?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:58 AM
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I’d love all these as well. What about them makes them romantic?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:57 AM
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What about bringing you coffee makes it feel romantic?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:47 AM
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See my previous comment. Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:26 PM
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What women say they don’t like men? It’s men constantly saying they don’t want women as friends. Men say they are in relationships for the access to sex. Men say women are all basic bitches with no hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:57 PM
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It’s funny how men think they know anything about women. The wall isn’t real.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:53 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:15 PM
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False. “Trophy wife”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 07:47 PM
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You switched the genders. It’s men who care about the status that comes with their choice of partners. “Trophy wife.”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 07:45 PM
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They haven’t been able to wrap their minds around the concept that attractive people, attract people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:47 PM
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Women want men they find attractive. I know it’s a crazy concept, but if 1 woman finds him attractive, chances are, some other women will too!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:46 PM
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Well my friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s mother’s uncle’s dog, works at tinder and told me that’s not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:41 PM
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I care about random men the same amount I care about random women. But the men in my life I definitely care about and am always available when they are going through difficult times. I think most women are like this. Maybe the men that believe women don’t care, don’t have many women in their lives that they are close to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:41 AM
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An example of toxic masculinity would be repression of emotions, and the stigma that created on mental health care for men. Male suicide rates would be evidence of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:13 PM
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Where was I proven wrong? An example of toxic masculinity would be repression of emotions, and the stigma that created on mental health care for men. Male suicide rates would be evidence of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:12 PM
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It’s unhealthy if it causes harm towards oneself or other’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:16 PM
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Sure 👍🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:06 AM
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That sounds so absurd I can’t bring myself to believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:53 PM
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Why were there no women that had interest in you? I know you said you don’t know why, but that’s the determining factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:13 PM
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But why? That’s the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:51 PM
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That’s his account of it. He can’t know what’s in the minds of other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 10:18 PM
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Why does he have 0 experience? The no experience doesn’t matter to me. What matters is the why so there would need to be vetting before deciding to date. But really everyone should be vetted first.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:56 PM
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There is enforcement. Harm or harass someone and there will be consequences. Legal, social or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:54 PM
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To live in a society, yes there should be enforcement of human decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:28 PM
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Do you honestly think the women here are worse than the men? I’ve received death threats and been told I deserve to be raped. I don’t believe the women here are doing that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:20 PM
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Or, how about the women on this sub aren’t an accurate representation of all women. Being on this sub for any length of time will definitely cause women to be jaded or apathetic towards the men here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:53 PM
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No. Most artistic make up and fashion hair colors are done for themselves. But there’s also many things done to uphold beauty standards for the male gaze
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:34 PM
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Basically what you’re trying to claim is that women are not entitled to basic human decency ie “respect”. I disagree. I believe all humans are owed basic human decency, the right to not be physically harmed or have their bodily autonomy imposed upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:39 PM
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Most relationships nowadays, a vacation would be split.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 08:45 AM
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No. I don’t believe women are wonderful. But as far as little romantic gestures, I see it more from women. Even planning romantic getaways, or wearing sexy lingerie. I truly believe that women perform romantic gestures more often than men, but often get overlooked by less frequent bigger gestures by men like delivering a dozen roses or romantic proposals.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 08:21 AM
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Just curious, when a woman cooks you dinner or dresses up cute and greets you at the door after work or buys you your favorite candy every time they go to the store, is that not considered romance? Or packs your lunch for work and writes you a cute little note, or sends flirty texts throughout the day, is that not romance? Maybe my idea of romance is incorrect, but as a woman I feel like women perform little gestures of romance more frequently than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 07:40 AM
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Cool story bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:18 AM
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Then so is having a job and paying bills. So why are men complaining about a non issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 09:48 PM
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Why the hatred of “whores”? Actually why call women that have had more partners than you think they should whores when they haven’t actually prostituted themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 06:11 AM
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I agree men are not a monolith. But the problem is that men here act like men are a monolith. And the men on this subreddit are especially bad at portraying men as sex obsessed and only tolerate relationships for the sex. When you try to argue with them that other men value other parts of a relationship, they will vehemently deny and claim that all men would prefer casual sex with many women over a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:28 PM
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I think when people give that advice, it’s to the men that are wanting casual sex. So many men claim casual sex is the ultimate goal and relationships are just a necessary evil they put up with to get sex since they aren’t capable of spinning plates. Men here put sex on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:03 PM
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The comment you were responding to was talking about high school, not someone in law school. You are a child in high school and literally have the potential for anything. It’s stupid to get with someone because you believe they have potential to be someone you’re attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:16 AM
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Yes it really is. You don’t get with someone expecting them to change. That’s toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:02 AM
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It’s trash to get with someone because you think they have potential. You should accept someone for how they are and not for who you think they can become.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:29 AM
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Moving on doesn’t necessarily mean cutting ties tho. But, if that’s what you have to do to move on then so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:03 PM
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Why would it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:14 PM
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No. You’re just hurt you won’t have the benefits of having her as your girl anymore. Selfish, self inflicted pain. You don’t consciously hurt someone repeatedly if you love them. When you love someone you instinctively shield them from being hurt, not cause their hurt. Also love and respect go hand in hand. How can you claim to love someone if you don’t even believe they are worthy of respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 09:46 PM
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Doing something with intent, that you know will deeply hurt someone, means you don’t love them nor respect them. It’s not different for men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 09:22 PM
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The guy doesn’t love his girlfriend if he’s actively cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:56 PM
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Again, unrealistic for most due to price. And from what I hear, it doesn’t really work on lighter hair. There needs to be dark pigments for the laser to target.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:44 PM
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It’s unrealistic to those with sensitive skin who get rashes, razor burn, ingrown hairs etc. Also, remaining hairless requires more than once a week shave.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:26 PM
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Having no visible body hair as a grown woman is a completely unrealistic beauty standard because realistically adults have body hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:30 PM
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If you consider being employed “submitting to my boss” then men are far more submissive than women, therefore should follow suit and submit at home as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:33 AM
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I’m not who you were previously responding to, I was just being sarcastic and further proving your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 05:15 PM
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Probably more like this. The guy that attacked Pelosi’s husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 04:25 PM
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He tells young men that when in a relationship, the women are basically men’s property and any money that the woman makes belongs to the man to use as he sees fit.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/24 06:19 AM
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I’m really confused, who is against doing what’s best for yourself? That’s the most often generic advice I always seen given to anybody about anything. “At the end of the day you just have to do what’s best for yourself.” I’ve never heard an argument against it unless it’s causing harm to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 06:04 AM
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Blue pill does not have a belief system, it’s just anti red pill. Men (and women) should pursue what’s best for them, just don’t exploit others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 05:34 AM
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Men use “loose” vagina jokes anytime a woman exists. It is for everyone, but you have to do your part and not expect women to do the work for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 06:14 AM
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Mid 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 06:12 AM
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How do you know? I’ve heard roast beef jokes for as long as I can remember. Let’s just say they’ve both been around and they are both bad. Agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:56 AM
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No it wouldn’t. Suicides don’t make the news unless it’s a celebrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:54 AM
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No I’m not going to point you to one of those posts because it’s literally the equivalent of someone saying the sky is blue and you asking for proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:21 AM
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Just curious, why do you believe that is news worthy? I hardly see suicides make the news. And also, mental illness caused his suicide, not some escort mocking a reality tv personas penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:00 AM
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Just curious, do you really think dick shaming is as prevalent as fat shaming? Literally anytime a fat woman posts anything on the internet, half the comments will be from men calling her fat. I don’t ever see body shaming towards men to the degree I see towards women, and that’s even with the existence of the body positivity movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 04:56 AM
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Small penis jokes seem like a reaction to the “roast beef” and “hot dog down a hallway” jokes. Body positivity is not exclusive to women, however women are the ones pushing back against fat shaming of themselves and other women. It’s a movement started by women for women. So if men want to take advantage of that movement, they have to start pushing back against the body shaming of men just as aggressively as the women in the body positivity movement do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:02 AM
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What if she claimed she only didn’t have sex with him because her emotional needs weren’t taken care of? So neither one fulfilled the other’s needs. Who gets to keep the assets?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:51 PM
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Show me where?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:58 PM
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Good thing they didn’t say that. But it’s disingenuous to claim that an ideology that claims women are mentally teenagers and void of logic (only feels), isn’t inherently misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:23 PM
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For someone to have a high body count they have to have had a lot of casual sex and few long term relationships. If someone is only having casual sex, It’s a valid assumption that it’s because they don’t care about the other aspects of a relationship. I don’t necessarily agree, I believe it’s more nuanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:09 PM
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It’s only a small percentage of those women that are sleeping with those guys. You think it’s 80/20 but in reality it’s much more closer to 20/20. Only a minority of men and women are sleeping around. I don’t remember the numbers, but the percentage of “sexless” is comparable between the genders. And that 63% I don’t hold much weight to. What people consider a relationship varies. I just saw a post on one of the relationship subs the other day about a guy that’s been seeing a woman for 3 years a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:23 PM
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There’s not an epiphany phase. Women (and men) are dating their peers. If they are a party girl in college who do you think they will be dating. Same goes for once they grow out of the party stage and enter the monotony of the workforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:47 PM
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How is it natural to be married when marriage doesn’t occur in nature? It would make sense, seeing as we’re the same species and mate with each other, both genders are either monogamous or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:48 PM
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Blue pill doesn’t have an ideology. It’s just anti red pill. But that doesn’t mean it’s directly opposes every viewpoint of trp, just the extremes and the misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 05:41 AM
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What do you think the average woman would capture with those glasses? How about the above average woman? Do you think if a woman, who routinely has men checking her out, did this experiment that it would prove that men cheat at a much higher rate? Or would it just be men checking out women with no correlation to cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:05 PM
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You’re choosing to perceive it that way. If a person who happens to be a school teacher believes the earth is flat, would it be fair to say “teachers are flat earthers”?
/r/ExRedPill29/06/24 05:56 AM
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The only way I would brush it off is if it was simply a woman saying something, which you then attributed to feminism. Individual women’s opinions aren’t representative of feminism. I don’t understand your last sentence.
/r/ExRedPill29/06/24 05:44 AM
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No one has a right to demand something from someone. Everyone has a right to their preferences, but no one is exempt from criticism about those preferences. Men constantly criticize women for wanting tall men, and women criticize men for wanting a virgin woman. If you’re vocal about your preferences, people will be vocal with their opinions on them.
/r/ExRedPill29/06/24 05:33 AM
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Yes, repeatedly telling women to go against men showing traits of toxic masculinity can definitely help solve the problem. Please tell me what part of feminism criticizes men for not fitting the traditional mold of masculinity, and what exactly are their critiques?
/r/ExRedPill29/06/24 05:28 AM
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How is the non traditional man not respected? Women are constantly saying they want a man that’s emotionally present, nurturing, takes care of household tasks, is an equal parent etc. All of those goes against traditional masculinity. What is impure about feminism? If you’re a man, you probably won’t see it in person because those are conversations between women.
/r/ExRedPill29/06/24 05:07 AM
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Let’s not throw around personal insults. My comment was in regards to the example in the OP, obviously. In general, having sex is not impressive when done by either gender. Men are impressed by other men having sex. Very strange if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:21 AM
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Feminism is in no way comparable to red pill. Red pill is a sexual strategy that attempts to define female behavior and attraction, and then use manipulation tactics to try to get as much use out of them as possible before discarding and going on to the next. Feminism is simply advocating for liberation and equality of the sexes with an emphasis on women. Women call out other women all the time for having toxic preferences that perpetuate harmful stereotypes.
/r/ExRedPill29/06/24 04:18 AM
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There’s nothing impressive about a football player sleeping around.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:53 AM
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If he didn’t want to be exclusive, that implies he was sleeping with other people too, so why is it only gross for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:45 AM
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We can’t define people by the extremes, or else every man is a rapist, pedo, abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 04:10 PM
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The women that are attracted might be attracted because of that, but it’s not the majority of women. Why are we claiming that the behavior of a minority of women define all female behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 03:10 PM
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Women don’t admit it because it’s not a thing for the vast majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 03:09 PM
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That definitely applies to some women. They want a man that is stereotypically masculine that shows no signs of weakness. But for many other women, they want to be the safe space for their man. They want him to be his true self and not feel like he has to perform. The thing about red pill is they take some truths and then completely over generalize to the extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:22 AM
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What part exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:14 AM
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All those are factors to some, and even then you don’t have to be the best, but just meet the threshold of affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 04:48 AM
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Everyone goes after the best they can. But the best is subjective. Most people, in my opinion, consider the person they are most compatible with “the best”. It’s not about who has the biggest dick or the best six pack or who makes the most money.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:51 AM
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They have to share custody with their rapists which I would argue is even more damaging than simply having pay taken from your paycheck, however, I disagree with both. Rapists need to lose all parental rights which would then abolish child support for men that were raped and prohibit rapists from seeking custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:21 AM
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Red pill claims women are biologically hypergamous. I believe that is 100% false. What I do believe is that due to societal conditioning, some women learn to behave like that in order to get the best outcome with the least amount of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:35 AM
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You have to unlearn that because it’s just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:24 PM
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Exactly. Poor treatment of women resulted in feminism. Change that first.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:55 PM
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Rapists, male and female, should lose any rights to children conceived. This isn’t a gendered issue. Women are made to share custody with their rapists. It’s appalling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:54 PM
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Feminism is a reaction to the poor treatment of women. If you want that reaction to change, change the actions first.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:45 PM
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Couldn’t this be said the other way around? Hypocrisy and contempt will not make women support you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 07:10 PM
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Can you tell me things where women have it better that we can equalize without taking away rights or autonomy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 07:03 PM
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Is wanting your feelings validated wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:01 AM
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Any kind of past experience can leave a mark. Also, lack of experiences can also leave a mark which we see manifesting in black pill spaces. But yes, you have to be able to behave in an attractive way. Visiting the male red pill spaces is very eye opening and can teach you a lot about what is considered desirable vs undesirable.
/r/RedPillWomen17/06/24 08:18 PM
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“Used up” isn’t a thing. Female sexual strategy: above sentiment by males compels a woman to never reveal her past. Behave in a way that’s attractive to men and they will never know the difference.
/r/RedPillWomen17/06/24 08:02 PM
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Hey just curious, have you been diagnosed with autism or is that a self diagnosis? This sub seems to have a very high percentage of autistic men compared to the general public so just wondering if the rise of self diagnosis has anything to do with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 07:49 PM
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You’re completely backwards. Red pill is literally all about getting pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:20 AM
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No it’s not. Blue pill is just the rejection of red pill. Normal non pilled people aren’t going around saying to worship pussy. Why do you red pillers say such crazy made up shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:39 AM
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That doesn’t mean you can’t improve yourself, it simply means don’t pretend to be someone you’re not. If your idea of a perfect weekend is a day at the river and an evening watching movies, don’t pretend you love clubbing and bars just to get a girl. You can still work out and get healthy and fit, or work on goals while still being yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:32 AM
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Lmao then don’t complain about alimony if you’re intentionally creating the conditions for her to receive it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:50 PM
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Then don’t marry someone that doesn’t work or makes substantially less than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:27 PM
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Alimony is rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:20 PM
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They might not say they are being used for sex, but many times it’s the men in situationships that would prefer commitment over something casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:28 AM
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That comment doesn’t prove your claim that women “rarely offer it, even to their husbands.” If someone completely stops interacting with you for anything else besides sex, that’s not “still offering love,” it’s forgoing your partners needs while still ensuring your sexual needs are met. Men are the same, but with sex. If their wife started refusing all sexual contact, they would fall out of love. Love is a connection you have with someone. If that connection isn’t maintained, the love dwindles.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:06 AM
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What responses here support your claim women rarely offer love to their husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 01:31 AM
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Solution to what problem exactly? I don’t know about you, but everywhere I go is filled with men and women interacting cohesively. This is an online problem. Only the extremists have issues with daily interactions with the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:59 AM
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When 2/3 of Americans are overweight, yes it is a high standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:06 PM
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I don’t think there has to be full custody for a bond to form.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:16 PM
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Sex should always be optional or else it’s rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:12 PM
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So if your wife doesn’t have sex you’re going to take her child from her? Figures the only way a red pilled man can get sex is through threats and coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:10 PM
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Yes I know what moot means, hence why I used the word. You said she was lying first because there would be bouncers to stop it and multiple people pointed out they don’t have bouncers at bathrooms where they are, then you said random other people would see and stop it, but her encounter literally had one of those people see and stop it. I know you males can’t help but invalidate the female experience but this does happen and every woman knows it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:57 PM
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She said someone saw and stopped it. So your point is moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:39 PM
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I’ve had sex with my husband in a club bathroom so don’t know what you’re talking about. In fact I’ve never seen a bouncer outside of bathrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:53 PM
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Why would you even make this claim? No one has ever called the police on a man for simply saying “you’re beautiful.” I’ve been complimented in public many times. It becomes harassment when I make it clear I’m not interested and he continues to persist, follow or corner me. Even in those situations it’s rare to have the cops called.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:51 PM
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How is she used up? Used up implies that something ran out or was depleted, so what did she deplete by having sex? How is consensual sex “being used”?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:32 AM
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What part of her body is she now missing? How is having sex giving away self respect? What changed about her after she had sex that made her value go down?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:27 AM
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What did she give away by having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:21 AM
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How does having sex equal no self respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:20 AM
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lol does she walk around with a scarlet body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:18 AM
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Prove it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:06 PM
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Admitting fault is something people commonly struggle with. Men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:25 AM
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It is the case tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:33 PM
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How do we know? I’ve been in what I considered a relationship only to find out later that he didn’t consider it a relationship. If that can happen to me, why couldn’t it happen to others?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:32 PM
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Men settle too. Even if every woman in a relationship with an average man feels like she settled, it still doesn’t disprove the fact that average people do date each other. Women do not only date Chads and reject all others.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:29 PM
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There’s still a large amount of average people in relationships. You can’t honestly tell me you don’t see average men in relationships every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:27 PM
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That information is from a self reported survey. There could be countless reasons for the discrepancy such as a man might not consider themselves “in a relationship” but the woman does and also age gap relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:25 PM
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I understand you truly believe this, but if it was true then why are there loads of average people in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:19 PM
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I think most women are only interested in men taller than them, but not necessarily tall men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:14 PM
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I think you’re hamster wheeling to justify dating teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:26 PM
5

What if getting railed was just a fun experience and didn’t cause emotional issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 03:49 PM
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Failed relationships aren’t necessarily a negative experience so are they only considered baggage if they lead to hating the opposite gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 03:49 PM
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I like tall men because I’m insecure about my height and tall men make me feel smaller. So are you saying it’s an insecurity issue with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 03:33 PM
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What is baggage?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 03:28 PM
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Where’s the hate tho? I made this account for gender debates so of course that’s what most my comments are about. Nowhere am I hating men tho. If you can point out a single comment where I’m displaying hatred towards men I’d appreciate it because that’s definitely not the message I’m trying to convey.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 01:09 AM
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t she have a history of depression and didn’t actually kill herself until many years after her “experiment”, so it’s not quite fair to attribute her death to “being treated like a man.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 09:25 PM
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Saying someone is full of shit isn’t addressing it. It’s not an argument. You are arguing from emotion rather than from logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:48 PM
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When they say all women will/should be replaced by sex robots, doesn’t that imply the eradication of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:05 AM
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I don’t actually, but I’d love to hear what makes you think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:02 AM
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Hey, that’s a very interesting conclusion. Honestly, there’s not a single man that I hate. Can you share where you feel I’m displaying hatred?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:02 AM
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Women get triggered when they are told they should be eradicated and replaced with robots. It’s similar to men getting triggered by “kill all men”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:38 PM
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Why would women want to see men suffer?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:05 PM
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No lol many, many men would do anything for, including marry, porn stars. Most people have some kind of mental illness to a degree so trying to “other” them doesn’t prove anything. There’s no such thing as normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:45 PM
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I think you’re virtue signaling. Porn stars have thousands if not millions of men willing to do anything for a chance to be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:39 PM
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Men believe they are leaders, so lead with the behavior you want to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:04 PM
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But that’s not being said. The question is about a random stranger in the woods, not about the men in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:57 PM
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Yep. These guys claim Margot Robbie and Zendaya are average and then claim that average women are their “looksmatch”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:45 PM
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You can thank your fellow men for spreading that “misandrist nonsense”.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:52 AM
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Why are you accepting the one answer that validates you as being “honest”? Some people look for excitement and superficial qualities when they are young and immature. People’s interest change as they get older. If a woman liked clubbing in her younger years but now prefers board games and nature walks, would you see her as settling if she married someone that aligns with her current interests?
/r/ExRedPill04/05/24 06:09 PM
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But not staying in a relationship isn’t disloyalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 08:05 PM
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There’s never a guarantee anyone will stay with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:35 PM
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Everything you described in your first paragraph I’ve experienced from men. I don’t think those are gendered behaviors, just self absorbed behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:41 PM
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Those things are only surface level. They might open the door to a relationship, but they won’t keep one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 08:55 PM
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Tell that to the government regarding taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 10:44 PM
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Why would you say such a blatant and ignorant lie? Such a bold display of inceldom.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:16 PM
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I think all the successful female leaders are an example of why they should be in leadership roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:01 PM
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So because a book that claims to be the word of God told you so? Interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 09:20 PM
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Why should a wife have to defer to her husband besides the fact that he is a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 10:33 PM
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Sorry my guy, but you’re the one disconnected from reality. Women don’t need another branch. They are able to recognize when their branch becomes unstable and simply lets go. No other branch is needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 11:46 PM
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No. It is male behavior. They might not always fully swing to the new branch, but they will not let go of the current one unless they’ve secured the next.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:16 PM
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Monkey branching is a predominantly male behavior. Males have a scarcity mindset so will not end a relationship no matter how unhappy unless they have already secured a new one. Women naturally have an abundance mentality so will end a relationship with no need for monkey branching.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 06:53 PM
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Do you have examples of that? I don’t think that happens to the extent that you are claiming. We know women can be horrible, because we know women are people just like men. People can be horrible. What I see happening most is someone making a claim based on assumptions and interpretations, and people calling out those assumptions. For an example a guy claimed that women are disgusted by him because of his height. He claims that women just constantly look at him with disgust because of his height…
/r/ExRedPill26/03/24 01:57 PM
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Women are more likely to lose custody if there are abuse allegations, so what kind of lawyer would advise that? Or was that just something you made up to fit your agenda?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:35 PM
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It literally had zero affect on my attraction to them. In fact it actually made me feel closer to them knowing I was someone they felt safe being vulnerable around.
/r/ExRedPill20/02/24 06:40 AM
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Yes. The men they love. When you love someone it’s natural to feel protective over them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:58 PM
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Then what was the point of using them as an example of women not caring about personality if the guy is good looking enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:23 AM
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Why do you think inmates can’t have good personalities? I bet many of them are pretty charismatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:16 AM
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Your claims are not supported by evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:36 AM
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The financial risk applies to both people. Just don’t get into a marriage with someone that makes significantly less than you. Family court favors men who actually request custody. Don’t marry someone controlling or just pick up after yourself? In my experience, the brides family pays funds the wedding or the couple together fund it. Don’t marry someone who expects you to spend thousands on a ring, many women don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:35 PM
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What do men give up by marrying that is different than what women give up?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 06:39 PM
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Prove that it’s because women are “wasting” that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 03:33 AM
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Can you prove it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 03:27 AM
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Sure! It was at Whole Foods on November 29th at 5 pm. Just request a copy of their security footage. Hope that helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 03:20 AM
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My husband ran to the store to pick up a few things. He bought vegan cheese, and gluten free cake. As a non vegan and non gluten free household, these items were basically inedible to us. Don’t you think a little extra time would have prevented that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 02:28 AM
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Only to you buddy. Sorry you’re having such a hard time understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:24 PM
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Do you really think she’s using preschoolers as an authority? Did you really miss the point that bad? Don’t point and don’t stare are social skills taught at a young age, generally the age of preschoolers. Something so basic that it can be taught to preschool aged children, should not be hard for grown men to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:21 PM
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No, but it really is. I’m guessing 3/4 of the men in here are incels. They might not all identify as one, but they all have the attitude of one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 11:04 PM
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I wasn’t responding to your OP. It wasn’t worth it to me. My comment was directed at the person that I was commenting to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 11:34 AM
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The nice guy trope started because men were complaining about women not being interested in them, and insisting that they(women) should be because they(nice guys) are nice. And then directly after stating how nice they are, they’d go on a tirade against women. You’re forgetting that many men here on ppd really do hate women, so it’s not that far of a reach to assume that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 01:15 AM
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What you’re saying might be true, but I can also guarantee you that there are many men objectively more “nice” than you that have partners or get laid as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 11:46 PM
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Many men have a preference for their woman to dress sexy. Believe it or not, there are other points of view out there besides your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:15 PM
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Do you just hate women? Why would you fantasize over laughing at someone’s misfortune?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 08:41 PM
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Ok…? I didn’t say anything contradictory to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 07:20 PM
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Where did I do that? Cheating is wrong no matter the gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 10:41 AM
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That’s not true. The women that I know that have cheated did so with an average man, that gave her kindness and understanding. People that cheat tend to (not all the time) seek out what their relationship is lacking. Anecdotally the only women I know that cheated did so with someone less attractive and successful than their SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 02:52 AM
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All your examples are things that actually happen. But nobody is claiming it’s all men doing them. We just recognize we have to be aware and take precautions, and if we don’t take precautions, we’re blamed. What I was referring to is how incels like to claim that all men believe the same as them about promiscuous women, or all men would prefer the barely legal virgin etc. So when women see these incels making those claims, they will point out its not all men that have those extremist beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:44 AM
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I actually see more women telling the incels that it’s just them that has their beliefs and not all men like they claim .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 12:41 AM
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Every doctor I know, is married to another doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:42 PM
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Why does women enjoying sex diminish them to nothing but a hole?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 08:56 PM
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I don’t think anyone believes everything about red pill is wrong. That’s how it gains followers, by mixing common beliefs and knowledge with the outlandish pseudoscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 10:44 PM
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Sure. So why can’t you take them seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 01:45 AM
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Why can’t you take what teen girls say seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 01:40 AM
1

Facilitating court ordered visitation just means showing up at the agreed upon exchange location. It is up to the non custodial parent to actually use his visitation time. I can’t tell you how many men skip out on their custody time and then later blame the mom. It’s your responsibility to actually show up. My husband has been going to court for my step son at least once a year. It’s exhausting, but necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 02:10 AM
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No it’s the noncustodial parents responsibility to facilitate their visits and foster their relationship with the child. If the custodial parent pushes back or breaks a custody order, then the noncustodial parent needs to take it back to court. I have first hand experience from both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 01:40 AM
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A romantic relationship ending does not mean the end of a parent/child relationship. It doesn’t matter who’s decision it is to split up, the onus is on both parents to maintain their relationship with the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 01:10 AM
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The rpw sub actually advises against being with red pill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:23 AM
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You’re in an exclusive LTR that you just refer to as fwb.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:01 PM
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I don’t exchange sex for dinner, so I’d decline the offer. You’re not really following the original argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 11:11 PM
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That’s what particular women want for themselves. It you don’t want to do it, no one is going to try to force you to. This is a strange argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 10:55 PM
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He shouldn’t, unless he wants to. Me, an average woman, greatly enjoy spending time and money on my average husband. And he does the same for me. No one is trying to force men to spend money on someone they don’t want to. Be a big boy and do what makes you happy, or don’t do what doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 10:17 PM
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Probably because that so called femininity does not come natural to many women, and just suppresses their true selves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:33 PM
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How sad that they can’t tell the difference in assault and consensual sex. They really think a man raping someone is equivalent to a woman having past sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:22 AM
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What has brought you to the conclusion that it’s a general notion that everything about masculinity is toxic? I would definitely have to disagree with you as I’ve only seen traits that are harmful to self or others being called toxic. What is your definition of masculinity? Where have you most seen your idea of masculinity being called toxic?
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 05:08 PM
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Actually, that is how it works with dating. Don’t like it, don’t date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:46 PM
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Then don’t initiate. No date, no pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:27 PM
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You’re very naive if you think the low divorce rate has anything to do with vetting and not with a social stigma on divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:14 AM
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Vetting does not guarantee a 0% fail rate. You all act like women knowingly choose crappy men. If someone never gives you reason to distrust them, then how are you to predict that they are going to change up their act once things have progressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:59 AM
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You can be selective and still choose wrong. Stop acting like women should be responsible for actions of shitty men. It’s not women’s fault when men are shitty. It’s not women’s fault they weren’t mind readers or couldn’t predict the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:05 AM
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Sure, except without all the pseudoscience and misogyny of red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 12:09 AM
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How does the fact that it’s general advice not make it helpful?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 10:29 PM
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Yep very true. You might have to go through every therapist in your insurance network before you find one that works for you, but if you do it’s worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 09:24 PM
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Did you really just use “NPC” unironically?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 09:22 PM
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Get off reddit, especially this sub. Seek out a therapist. Figure out what little things bring you joy, and start focusing on that. Make goals, little and big, and start working towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:59 PM
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I’m very sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, your situation isn’t all that uncommon. I’ve had a couple different coworkers that had similar situations. Might as well file and get the divorce process started since you’re basically just coparents now anyways. I hope your situation works out in your favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 05:47 PM
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My husband just shaved off his beard yesterday 😭😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:02 AM
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That’s your red pill conditioning. It’s completely false. The majority of average women are with average men. You can go anywhere in public and see proof of this all around you.
/r/ExRedPill09/10/22 02:20 AM
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Yes, men and women will always consider physical attraction to some degree. Now the importance of that physical attraction varies in each individual. Maybe for one person looks are of 90% importance, but for another person maybe they are only 10%.
/r/ExRedPill09/10/22 02:17 AM
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But if you actually do a little research, you’ll find that women suffer more financially after divorce than men do. Also, in cases where men actually petition for custody, they are granted it about 60% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:15 AM
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Why are you calling it their “husband’s wealth”? Generally money acquired outside of the marriage isn’t considered in a divorce. The money acquired during a marriage, is marital funds. Men aren’t the only ones working and contributing to the income, and in the cases that they are, the wives are generally responsible for all other duties which helps enable the husband to earn the money for his family. And in cases where the wife earns more, they husband is entitled to 50% of it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:11 AM
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What laws are in the wife’s favor? Can you cite the specific ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:03 AM
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I think this is the true answer. Men just don’t have the urge to actually file for the divorce. They will completely walk away from the marriage, without ever doing the paperwork. I’ve heard of this happening many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:02 AM
1

That’s literally the opposite of what I said. Please go back and reread my comment without any biases.
/r/ExRedPill09/10/22 01:54 AM
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No lol. Sperm banks want healthy average to above average donors. The average male height in the US is I think 5’9.5” so 5’7” is a below average male. Doesn’t really have much to do with it being a huge deal to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:49 AM
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You’re basically holding women to impossible standards. You cannot deny that your attraction to women includes their physical looks. Humans are visual creatures, you cannot expect us to completely go against that. Yes there should be more to attraction than just physical, but physical attraction will always play a role in overall attraction for men and women.
/r/ExRedPill09/10/22 01:18 AM
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How old was this “girl”?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 12:25 AM
1

He’s phrasing it as “not liking men who cry”, but I guarantee that it’s “not liking when they cry.”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:52 PM
1

Seems like men need to raise their standards then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 10:50 PM
1

The man can only do what the woman allows. Umm, doesn’t this work the other way around too, unless women are going around forcing men to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 10:42 PM
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I don’t like when anyone cries around me, not because it turns me off or disgusts me, but because I feel like shit that I don’t know how to comfort them. Most people are uncomfortable around someone that’s crying, but that doesn’t change the way they feel about the person. It’s normal to be uncomfortable in uncomfortable situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 10:11 PM
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Realistically? Neither. Rape charges aren’t taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 03:25 AM
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rob half of my assets Why are you choosing to marry someone that isn’t contributing to the marriage assets? Have an egalitarian marriage, then once you divorce you’re simply splitting mutual assets 50/50 like what was paid into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:24 PM
1

Would you care if your girl was sleeping with other men, but was perfect in every other way? But you would still need to remain loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:13 AM
1

Who says housekeepers and janitors don’t both work just as hard? I’m doubting the credibility of this “experiment.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:18 AM
1

No one is forcing it, but that’s an issue that needs to be addressed, and brought to light.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:07 AM
1

But the problem is, why are the female dominated fields low paying? Are teachers not worth a living wage? What about CNAs? There are many hardworking jobs dominated by women that have a low pay for no reason at all, besides the fact that it’s “women’s work.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 12:33 AM
4

If he loved you deeply he probably wouldn’t cheat in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 03:02 AM
1

Add on all these negative experiences he’s had with women as baggage too. He sounds exactly like the old, bitter women that men are describing on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 08:23 PM
2

You can have whatever opinion of me you want. Your determination of my value, does not mean a single thing, to me. Men on ppd seem to think that their judgement of a woman somehow holds weight when it means absolutely nothing. You dictating my value, means just as much to me as my dictating my value means to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 10:58 PM
2

Once again, if there is something about me that someone finds undesirable, we just aren’t compatible. Therefore, they are not my “target market”. No value lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 10:48 PM
2

Yep it’s up to the individual. But not being compatible with a certain individual for whatever reason, doesn’t objectively lower a persons value.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 10:28 PM
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So, my husband was married before me. Do I care about that? Absolutely. I wish I had been his first wife. I would have preferred to be his one and only. Many women probably would not have married him knowing that he had been married and divorced. Does that somehow lower his value? Absolutely fucking not. It just means that he just wasn’t compatible with those women. Not being compatible with someone doesn’t lower your value.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 10:06 PM
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I do not care if you care about it. That’s not my point. Whether or not you care about something has no bearing on a woman’s value.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 09:58 PM
1

I’m not talking about lying. I’m talking about this post. Men on PPD constantly try to convince women that they are basically worthless past a certain age or number of partners. That what the original commenter was referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 09:52 PM
1

No. That somehow the number of people you have sex with determines your value.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 09:45 PM
1

It’s more negging than dread. It’s trying to make women feel insecure about themselves and question their worth. If they start believing the negs, their self worth will go down causing her to settle for these men that couldn’t get her otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 09:36 PM
2

I’m not missing anything, I’m just disagreeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 11:26 PM
1

Just like women will break their 3 date rule for a certain man under certain conditions, men will also break their n count rule for a specific woman as well. Denying it won’t change anything. “watch what they do and not what they say.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:42 PM
1

For you to have to point out how much you don’t care about me, it’s obvious you’re even more upset than I thought. I’m really sorry I got you all worked up. This little exchange really did make me lol, it was entertaining. Well back to work I go. Hope your day gets better!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 04:47 PM
1

Wow, I truly love the condescending tone of your comment, you really put me in my place. For this comment I will use lmao as opposed to lol. Sorry I really touched a nerve there. Lmao. Better?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 04:29 PM
1

Lololol we all know you like to virtue signal that you will hold to your values, but if a woman like that ever showed interest in you, you’d be simping for the chance to even have a date with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:33 PM
1

Men on ppd constantly talk about their disgust of promiscuous women, yet I bet none of you would turn down a relationship with the super model with your ideal face/body that has a vast sexual past.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 11:40 PM
3

I was using it ironically as I don’t believe in alpha and beta males, but I suppose it would be a man opposite of red pills description of an alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 02:35 AM
1

Women love beta male husbands. (Beta and alpha are bullshit terms)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 12:35 AM
1

Morbid curiosity, and I literally have no drama in my life, which is good, but I like drama from afar for entertainment purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 12:32 AM
1

The problem is the red pill description of “female nature” has no basis in reality. Some women may behave like that, but guess what? Some men are like that too!
/r/ExRedPill18/09/22 05:04 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/xg3282/how_do_you_get_over_the_anger_from_being_less/ioqwt1o/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
/r/ExRedPill17/09/22 04:31 AM
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No, usually it is in your head. People that shitty that they are completely disgusted by a short man simply existing are rare, so him seeing it frequently proves it’s in his head.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/22 02:35 AM
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Cognitive distortions /end
/r/ExRedPill17/09/22 02:14 AM
1

No, it’s really not obvious. What’s obvious is people’s insecurities play a huge role in how they interpret things. You, nor the original commenter, can read minds. Even if he interpreted the look correctly as disgust, he has absolutely no way of knowing what’s causing the look. It’s literally in his head that people’s looks are disgust at him being short.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/22 01:57 AM
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Please tell me, how are you able to interpret strangers facial expressions that well, and even be able to tell exactly what is causing that expression? Never claimed to be a saint. I actually haven’t made any claims about myself, so….?
/r/ExRedPill17/09/22 01:40 AM
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No it’s true. If you are commonly encountering disgusted looks from people around you, it’s most likely just in your head. When we are insecure about things, we imagine that other people are constantly judging us for it, when the reality is everyone else is really in their own world and couldn’t care less about you. If you’re seeing “short men should die” comments, you must have stumbled on to an extreme man hating part of the internet because that’s not common at all. I frequent feminist spaces…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/22 01:37 AM
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It’s not gaslighting. Most people are indifferent, at most, to random people they aren’t attracted to.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/22 01:28 AM
1

I think the disgusted looks might be more in your head than in reality.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/22 12:47 AM
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It’s actually not rare at all. In fact, if I’m remembering correctly, most marriages are between those in a similar income bracket.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:51 AM
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What doesn’t make sense is that the statistics show otherwise. All the men on this sub swear by the stats when it revolves around something that makes women look bad, but when it’s something that goes against their narrative, it’s completely ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 06:17 PM
1

Hmm…. the entire second sentence was different, it didn’t say anything about men getting custody more when they actually try for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:46 AM
1

Wait, did you edit your comment? I swear it said something different when I replied.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:37 AM
1

Statistically, fathers are more likely to get custody when they actually request it. The majority of cases where the mother gets custody are decided outside of court.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:26 AM
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So, are you saying that you didn’t treat your past significant others to the best of your abilities while you were with them? That’s sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:44 AM
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You’re misunderstanding. They are saying that being in a relationship with them currently should show that there are more special than someone they are not with anymore. They aren’t saying they don’t do anything to show they are special.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:43 AM
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No one says they don’t need to show their partner they are special.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:13 PM
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Are you somehow unable to comprehend that women are saying they treat all their boyfriends like they are special and there’s no comparing past relationships. That’s a narcissistic way of thinking “What can I get from you that no one else did”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:11 PM
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That’s not what the questions about. Women are saying they always show their partners they are loved and special but for some reason that’s not good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:09 PM
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Why do you keep saying that? I literally said my husband is the most important person in the world to me and I show him that with love. Being the most important person would obviously mean more important (special) than any ex, but I’m not going to actively compare my husband to an ex because that would be disrespectful towards him. Do you not understand that most normal people don’t like being compared to others, but if you express how important they are to you and that they are the most special…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 09:01 PM
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Why would I compare? There’s no comparison. If I was actively comparing my husband to exes, then there would be a problem. That’s insulting to your current SO and would almost seem like there’s still feelings for the ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 08:43 PM
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Don’t you think it’s weird making a comparison to past relationships? There’s no way to show my husband that he’s more special because I don’t actively compare, but he does know he is the most important person in the world to me (besides kids). I try to show him every day that he’s loved, but again that has nothing to do with my past relationships. They are in the past I don’t think about or care about them now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 08:31 PM
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No, red pill is what’s creating the problem. It starts out with normal teens and young adults going through an awkward stage of their life. In the past, these boys would eventually gain some social skills and confidence and outgrow it. Now with the red pill, instead of outgrowing that stage of their life, they fall into the manosphere and poison their minds and they just get deeper into this hole.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/22 11:26 PM
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Lol no. They would have to actually be having sex to qualify as a manwhore.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 04:41 AM
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Which most of the guys in red pill want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:54 AM
1

You’re talking in circles and contradictions. You don’t want a relationship with someone that has sex right away, because you only want someone that associates sex with love. But when asked if you’ll wait until you’re truly in love before you have sex, you said you’d only wait if that person was a virgin, insinuating that you wouldn’t wait in other instances which means you would be having sex without there being love. Now you’re saying there doesn’t have to be love, just “like”, but that makes …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:17 PM
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That means you don’t only associate sex with love, so your entire argument just fell apart. You want someone that only associates sex with love while admitting that you don’t require love before you yourself have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:07 PM
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So you’re ok being in a committed relationship for possibly years before having sex? As, let’s be honest, it takes awhile for love to develop and being able to tell the difference between love and lust and the honeymoon stages of relationships. Love is a deep bond that doesn’t happen right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:03 PM
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The feelings that you have for the person determine the association you have with sex with that person. Sex can be just a physical release or it can be an emotional connection, those aren’t mutually exclusive. Watching a movie can simply be entertainment, but when my husband and I make the effort to plan a date away from the kids to go to the movies together, it becomes an expression of love. But also, like, now no one should ever have sex unless they are in love with the person? You do realize …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 07:55 PM
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So we’re just making up facts now? Anyone can cheat for any reason. Having casual sex does not make you a cheater. Why are you trying to equate the 2?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 07:33 PM
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No one is obligated to “stick around.” Anyone can leave at anytime. Doesn’t make your expectations for identical relationships with unique individuals any less ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 07:20 PM
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How soon you have sex has nothing to do with monogamy. Plenty of people have casual sex when not in relationships, yet remain monogamous in relationships. Plenty of people who’ve never had casual sex go on to cheat while in a monogamous relationship when the opportunity arises. It’s about your character and whether or not you value the promises you make, as a committed monogamous relationship is a promise to be faithful to that person while in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 07:10 PM
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Yes we are talking about relationships, which consist of individual people. There’s no such thing as consistency when it involves different unique individuals. You cannot recreate relationships when it involves different people. And if you don’t want a relationship with someone that has sex in non committed relationships, don’t have sex with people while not in a committed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:40 PM
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Totally lol. I have this conversation with people on here all the time. One friend I went out to drinks with the same night we met and another friend we worked together for almost a year before we actually became really close and started hanging out together outside of work. We’re all individuals you can’t live your life off a predetermined script and timeline.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:14 PM
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Sometimes I like to pick up fast food after work because I’m feeling too lazy to cook and fast food sounds good at the moment. Other times I’ll come home and cook a healthy meal. Guess I’m dishonest since my behavior is inconsistent 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:00 PM
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When someone acts vastly out of character, it’s safe to suggest that they could be suffering from a mental health disorder and should seek treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 10:43 PM
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I don’t believe that’s the case for the majority of men that cheat. Cheaters tend to hide the fact that they are married or in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 07:55 PM
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Women don’t claim superiority over men. Women don’t claim men need to submit to them. Women don’t claim ownership over their male partners. Women don’t claim men to be of inferior intellect or incapable of rational thought. Red pill men are not innocent dogs being kicked. If you perceive yourself to be kicked, it’s in retaliation to the abuse of women that your ideology calls for. Feel free to point out any injustices you feel, most people will empathize with you until you start blaming all wome…
/r/ExRedPill31/08/22 11:28 PM
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Being hurt by individual women isn’t a valid reason for adhering to an ideology that dehumanizes and calls for manipulation/mental abuse of all women. You get sympathy for what you’ve gone through, you don’t get sympathy for believing in an ideology that claims men have superiority over women.
/r/ExRedPill31/08/22 10:15 PM
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Lol no they aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 03:34 AM
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Didn’t see a single incel like comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 03:03 AM
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Womansphere? Never heard of it. Kill all men is a loud but very small minority of women.
/r/ExRedPill30/08/22 11:34 PM
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This isn’t debatable. Every mgtow community I’ve ever seen has been filled with hating on women. That’s why the sub got banned. Mgtow is a hate group much like incels.
/r/ExRedPill30/08/22 11:28 PM
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Except they don’t actually go their own way. They spend their time on forums spreading hate and misogyny. If they actually did go their own way nobody would have a problem with them.
/r/ExRedPill30/08/22 11:11 PM
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Sounds like you’re trying to keep him down and in the victim mindset. Others are giving advice to help change that mindset and his situation.
/r/ExRedPill30/08/22 01:43 AM
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Doesn’t sound like your problems are actually related to being a man. Sounds like you just need a better support system.
/r/ExRedPill29/08/22 11:29 PM
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Ok, so herein lies the problem. You just judged them all as terrible people for no reason at all. Your hatred of women is clouding your judgment. You absolutely don’t have to go to a prostitute and I wasn’t suggesting that whatsoever. What I was pointing out was your unwarranted and harsh judgment of them being “terrible people”. You’re saying you’ve never met a good woman, while judging certain women as being terrible when you don’t even know them.
/r/ExRedPill28/08/22 08:11 PM
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What does terrible mean to you? How many have you met that you feel comfortable judging all of them off of?
/r/ExRedPill28/08/22 08:02 PM
1

How do you know prostitutes are horrible people? Have you met all of them? What makes them horrible?
/r/ExRedPill28/08/22 07:53 PM
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What!!?? Women are constantly expected to put up with men’s overt sexual nature and aggression associated with testosterone. “It’s just how men are”, so that’s what’s expected and accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 03:20 PM
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You’re really just making things up. I know you know the difference in an actual human body and possessions of a corporation, but you are continuing this argument just for the sake of an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 11:26 PM
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No you have not. A corporation doesn’t have a human body and you haven’t proven it so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 11:18 PM
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Corporations are not people. They have legal rights. They do not have a body. I’m not trying to convince you of anything. I’m stating my stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 11:11 PM
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You’re drawing this argument way out into left field. My stance is pro bodily autonomy for people, not corporations with legal personhood, not artificial wombs, but actual humans. End of discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 11:03 PM
2

No, the womb sustains a living organism created by a an egg and sperm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 11:00 PM
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An artificial womb is not a body. Just like life support is not a body. Following my argument, it’s still not a living breathing human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 10:57 PM
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A corporation has some legal rights of a person. My argument is that I am pro bodily autonomy for human beings. That has nothing to do with what legal rights a corporation has. You cannot argue that a corporation has bodily autonomy as a right because it literally does not have a body. Your argument is flawed. There is no body.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 10:52 PM
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No. A corporation does not have a body. This is the stupidest argument ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 10:45 PM
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No lol. What a weird stretch you’re trying to make. A company does not have a human body, therefore cannot have bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 10:41 PM
1

Most women don’t date 10+ years younger. Not a very good “gotcha”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 10:39 PM
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My stance is pro bodily autonomy. The fetus is dependent on the mothers body. The mother has the right to cease the use of her body. In the case of an artificial womb, there would be no other being using her body.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 10:37 PM
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The only reason it’s argued that women can terminate a fetus is because it’s in their body. In the case of artificial wombs the moral right would not extend to the father as it’s not his body. In fact, it would no longer extend to the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 10:31 PM
2

Says who?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 10:24 PM
1

Maybe to you, but not to many other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 10:23 PM
1

Huh? You seem to be in your own argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 10:23 PM
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We weren’t discussing preferences, we were discussing the ability for women over 30 to marry “high value men.” These men that many would consider high value, marry women over 30 all the time. And I’m not speaking about the 1%. I’m talking about your normal man with good looks, good job and good character.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 07:40 PM
1

So you choose an outlier as your example? My statement represents the norm, yours refers to outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 07:10 PM
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Your anecdotal evidence doesn’t mean much when it goes against collected data.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 07:08 PM
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You’re a man, so of course you’d like to believe this. But it’s not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 07:07 PM
1

I don’t view men in terms of alpha/beta, but all around you there’s women over 30 marrying great men also over 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 06:23 PM
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Are we pretending like 5 years is a huge age gap when it comes to over 25 year olds? Sure, younger than 25, 5 years can be significant. Over that, it’s inconsequential.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 06:19 PM
1

But that’s simply not true. Many people are marrying in their 30s and most age differences are 2/3 years. It’s only a red/black pill trope that 30+ year old women are seen as undesirable old maids.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 04:55 PM
1

Even most 40 year olds aren’t dating 55 year old men. Most women cut the age gap off at 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 04:52 PM
1

Keep telling yourself that. Women prefer attractive men. An attractive man can get away with a shit personality, but only for so long. Eventually women will start getting sick of his shit, and no longer put up with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 03:07 AM
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A man that refers to women as leftovers, will most likely never have the chance of rejecting those so called leftovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 02:46 AM
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Looks are greater than everything else, to some people. This doesn’t prove that it’s the majority of women, just that there are women that will overlook the worst behavior for certain men. Non-red pill people don’t dispute this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 09:32 PM
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No I don’t agree with black pill. The existence of “pretty privilege” doesn’t prove all the other bullshit claims.
/r/ExRedPill24/08/22 09:43 PM
1

I don’t think that is something anyone disputes. It’s well known that attractive people have it easier in life.
/r/ExRedPill24/08/22 09:19 PM
1

You can start here
/r/ExRedPill24/08/22 08:56 PM
1

I’m not talking about posts and comments. I’m talking about the evidence debunking most of red/black pills claims.
/r/ExRedPill24/08/22 08:55 PM
1

Have you looked at the information provided in this subreddit? Please start there.
/r/ExRedPill24/08/22 08:49 PM
1

There are no legitimate studies that prove the red pill ideology. Look into this subs sidebar to see all of them disproven.
/r/ExRedPill24/08/22 08:25 PM
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The majority of women do not cum from penetration on a regular basis. That’s not a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 04:55 PM
1

It’s funny because they really do change the factors to define hypergamy in order to suit whatever situation they want to call *hypergamy” on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 04:52 PM
1

Where are these trails of precum? And why not actual cum? How are your parents going to know how many men have been inside her?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:02 PM
1

But the issue is, nothing you just just said is unique to women. Men have the same risks in being the town pogo stick. Men are showing the same lack of self control when they attempt to fuck everything with a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:54 PM
1

You’re using the wrong word then. Silly 😜
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:32 PM
1

No lol. Marriage is the result of an intentional decision to create a life together.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:14 PM
1

give it to me. Wow, this is very telling. You just said so much about yourself with that one little word.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:43 PM
1

Lol providing for your child is extortion? Also, spousal support is pretty uncommon nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:33 PM
1

So the rare gold digger, defines all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 10:58 PM
1

So you think women are getting married, just to divorce and get money? Quite the long con.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 10:11 PM
2

Possibly, or you just let your biases cloud your judgment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 01:50 AM
1

Lol, yes actually we do work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 01:47 AM
1

No. It’s what they say, because it’s what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 01:43 AM
0

It is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 11:36 PM
3

It depends on what your definition of superior is. Bigger and stronger? Yep, most women do want that, but is it really superior? Income doesn’t have to be more, just needs to be in a similar income range. The women that truly care about a man’s income are those into more traditional gender roles, so of course the man has to make enough to support a family. But is that really superior?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 04:59 PM
3

…but in reality, women want an equal partner. Not all, of course, but probably the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 02:34 PM
1

Cognitively, men and women are very much the same. There’s more in group differences between men than there are differences between the average man and average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 02:33 PM
1

Women don’t want a superior, they want an equal partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 02:02 PM
0

They tend to have more support from family and friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:57 PM
1

I didn’t ask a question. I made a statement. Most single fathers absolutely do have more support in being a single parent. That’s not something debatable, it just is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:55 PM
1

Not like single fathers do. Women are expected to just naturally be able to do everything in regards to raising a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:47 PM
1

That’s a different topic. We’re talking about raising children, so the support I’m referring to is in helping raise the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:45 PM
1

Most single fathers aren’t single handedly parenting their child. They tend to have more support from family and friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:29 PM
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No, that means it’s uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 11:52 PM
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That is a really misleading title. It’s 1/3 of women have at least once in their life went out just for the food.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 04:43 PM
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Who are these normie men marrying? They are average women marrying average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:11 PM
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Prove it was a man fighting the saber tooth tiger and not a community of able bodied men and women while the sick, elderly and kids hid for protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:15 PM
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But OPs entire premise is the woman just has to allow the escalation from the man, or else she is using sex as a form of manipulation, dangling a carrot in front of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:41 AM
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Imagine thinking “I’m interested, but not ready to have sex with you yet” means “I’m trying to get cash and prizes from you.” There’s more to relationships than money and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:36 AM
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Huh? Your argument makes no sense. There’s such a thing as being interested in a guy, but not wanting to have sex yet. Not everyone is obsessed with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:22 AM
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Lol so the only way to “be organic” is to just have sex whenever the guy initiates?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:09 AM
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You’re saying the words “be organic”, but what you’re describing is you, the man, controlling the timeline and the woman is just expected to go along with it or else she’s “dangling the carrot.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:43 AM
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Most people don’t fuck within the first 15 minutes of meeting. If you’re dating with intention, then just having sex on the first date with everyone you meet isn’t the best strategy. If you’ve found that casual sex isn’t fulfilling to you, having sex on the first date makes zero sense. If you’re sexually attracted to someone, having sex right away might not be the best idea because it could cloud your judgment on whether or not there’s compatibility there in other areas as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 02:08 AM
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How soon a woman has sex with someone isn’t a gauge for how attractive they find them. There are many different factors to take into consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 01:55 AM
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Good thing false rape accusations are extremely rare!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 11:37 PM
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Lol that’s false considering the extremely low conviction rate in rape cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 11:17 PM
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The percentage of false rape claims is on par with all other false crime reports. So you are just as likely to be accused of robbery as you are to be accused of rape, so why is it that red pill only worry about falsely being accused of rape? My hypothesis is that those guys know they use manipulative predatory tactics that could be considered rape in some instances.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 10:51 PM
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Oh totally. It’s a way to avoid the responsibility for their shit behavior.
/r/ExRedPill07/08/22 12:49 AM
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They believe it’s coming from their “lizard brain” as something deeply biologically ingrained in them that they have no control over.
/r/ExRedPill06/08/22 10:28 PM
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Oh, so you’re probably one of those people that think “Black lives matter”, means that all other lives don’t matter.
/r/ExRedPill06/08/22 08:28 PM
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Feminism is about gender equality. You’re not really explaining what is toxic about it. I honestly don’t understand the point you are making.
/r/ExRedPill06/08/22 07:52 PM
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What’s toxic about feminism?
/r/ExRedPill06/08/22 07:36 PM
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Sounds like this is a post to hate on feminism, disguised as advice related to red pill. Feminism is not man hating, it’s not sexist, it is not toxic. Are there women that hate men that call themselves feminists? Absolutely! Red pill on the other hand is 100% sexists to its core. It’s built on misogynistic beliefs. It’s ideation is based on misogynistic pseudoscience. You cannot remove the misogyny from red pill, as that would completely break down the very foundation of it. Feminism and red pil…
/r/ExRedPill06/08/22 05:30 PM
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You read minds? Wow, amazing, you know my thoughts better than I do!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 02:03 AM
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I’m still missing the part where I was backtracking? And I have no need to save face on ppd lmao 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 01:54 AM
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Not true. Women want who they are attracted to. The more attracted to you they are, generally the more they put up with. However, play games and show disinterest, and the attraction they had for you will fade.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 08:45 PM
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No. That’s red pill thinking. You have to break free of that thought process. Most families are dual income. Most marriages are between people of similar social status. The red pill af/bb is complete bullshit.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/22 07:32 PM
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I’ve seen many short unattractive men in relationships. It is harder, but not impossible.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/22 07:12 PM
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You can, but it takes work. The biggest changes you need to make are mental. Import your outlook.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/22 06:37 PM
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Yeah it probably would, but you can’t really change that. Focus on what you can change.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/22 05:11 PM
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Not necessarily hide your feelings, but gotta figure out a way to work through them and change your negative outlook. Have you tried counseling? What about antidepressants or anxiety meds? Is there anything that you enjoy doing? Do you give yourself time for self care?
/r/ExRedPill04/08/22 02:40 PM
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It’s more like you were conned into trusting someone, you believed you were handing over your keys to a honest individual, only to have them take off and never return. Being lied to and manipulated is the fault of the person doing the lying and manipulating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 04:00 AM
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Maybe for you, but not for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 03:58 AM
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Sex can be different depending on the emotions behind it. It’s very possible for someone to have meaningless sex with one person and then go on to have loving bonding sex with another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 03:54 AM
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Then if you believe you can be giving sacred intimacy on the third date with someone you hardly know, then why wouldn’t she also be giving sacred intimacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 03:45 AM
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Really? So if you get robbed and are upset about it, it’s your problem and the robbers are blameless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 03:42 AM
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That’s literally not true. Women are able to get sex only from those willing to give it to her. Those willing to give it are doing so out of their own free will, aka controlling her access to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 03:41 AM
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You’re talking about sex in terms of getting. But you’re also giving sex to someone else, so independent upon the other person, are you giving sacred intimacy when you have sex? I’m assuming not, so why should you expect that of a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 03:38 AM
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Notorious for it according to who? Red pill? Not the best source.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 11:30 PM
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Lololol ohhhh. I get it now. You’re not telling me that is what women believe, that’s what you believe. No. An affair is 100% on the person cheating. The other person is a piece of shit if they were aware, but still the blame is on the one that actually did the cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 07:03 PM
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Ok, I can’t stop you from being an abuser. It’s your conscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 07:00 PM
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They don’t. My exboyfriend thought I was cheating and instead of doing anything to me, he called up the guy and threatened them. Go on the affair recovery sub and you’ll see that many people men and women blame the affair partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:52 PM
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You just completely dismissed me. I’m a woman telling you exactly why the home wrecker gets blamed. It has nothing to do with it being a woman’s fault for spreading her legs. It’s about the utter heartbreak of accepting that your partner hurt you in such a horrible way. I loved my ex. I hated his affair partner. After we broke up and I was no longer clouded by my love for him, I realized that it was 100% his fault. She owed me nothing, he did. Edit: to answer your last question; I’m 100% disagre…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:37 PM
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Ok, then when you’re emotionally abused in your next relationship, remember they just used tools at their disposal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:32 PM
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Lolol no. Stop trying to speak for women. They loathe the homewrecker because it’s easier to hate someone you never loved, rather than hate someone you were in love with. You want to find someone to blame than believe you were just betrayed by the person you chose to spend your life with. Women don’t get into a relationship with someone that makes it obvious they have no other options. We want to be chosen, not settled for because you have no other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:29 PM
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Agree. But please look up what constitutes as financial abuse because I have a feeling you’re simply referring to a woman allowing a man to buy her dinner, which definitely isn’t financial abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:15 PM
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You’re the only one assuming you don’t have options. Most women view everyone as having options. Why would a woman want to be with a man who is with them because they don’t have other options?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:12 PM
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No, dread game is not fine. It’s manipulative and potentially abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:08 PM
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Do you consider a woman that flirts with males and sets a foundation to “bounce” to be cheaters?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 05:59 PM
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How about don’t do it regardless of whether it works because it’s a tactic used by abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 05:58 PM
1

Without further evidence, correlation means very little.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 04:26 AM
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What do I need to save face over? And what backtracking? You seem confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 04:25 AM
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I didn’t take it personally, I don’t take anything on Reddit personally. I live in the real world, I just get my entertainment from Reddit since I’m a nerd.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 04:14 AM
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Correlation doesn’t mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 04:12 AM
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Good for you, I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 04:11 AM
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Wasn’t trying to make an argument. I’m just amused.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:26 AM
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Is it wrong though?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:25 AM
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How can you seriously make up bullshit like that and claim it like a fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:57 AM
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It is low, to me. It would be a lot higher if I had impulse control problems. And I wouldn’t be faithfully monogamous for 8 years either. And why should it be low if they don’t relate? They don’t relate, so it can be high or low with no relation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:51 AM
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Wow not only an incel but a racist too!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:28 AM
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Why does it matter? I’ve had casual sex and I’ve also had committed sex. Been with one man for the past 8 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:16 AM
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It’s important to remember that correlation does not equal causation
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 11:29 PM
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I honestly didn’t read your links, but it’s important to remember that correlation does not equal causation
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 11:28 PM
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Lol ok buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 11:24 PM
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I got my first tattoo and my belly button pierced as a virgin. It’s almost as if they don’t relate….
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 09:40 PM
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But the single comment isn’t enough to report. It’s the multiple comments put together that make it clear he’s trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 04:59 PM
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So it’s not that there wasn’t anything misogynistic, it’s that you believe in the misogyny therefore you see nothing wrong with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:24 PM
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Ahh ok. Yes I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:23 PM
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I’ve never made a single comment about fuckbois, so please explain how someone else’s opinions make me a hypocrite? Also, isn’t a fuckboi someone that intentionally misleads/manipulates women to get sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:20 PM
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Yes I did lol. What was that one quote about women being schizophrenic husks?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:17 PM
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Agree to disagree then, but I’ve seen it first hand how red pill works to dehumanize women in men’s eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:13 PM
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Lolol right. The problem with red pill is the pedestalization of sex. Therefore you can’t see women as people, but as the sex givers or deniers. So if something happens to a woman, you’re only concern is how it affects their sex giving abilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:11 PM
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imagine paying the price for what another man did to her? That right there is claiming victimhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:06 PM
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No, it’s red pill/the manosphere. I saw a post yesterday on trp “how to extract as much sex as possible from women.” Women aren’t even people to them, we’re just sex suppliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:04 PM
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I can’t believe the men on this thread really twisting it around so that men are the true victims of women being raped. Once again I ask you, do you really have no empathy for other people? Has red pill taken away mens ability to care for other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 02:38 PM
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Why are you all over this thread implying that women are lying about how many men they’ve slept with? It’s clear that you’re trolling, I’m surprised the mods haven’t picked up on it yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 02:21 PM
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There is no moral superiority in feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 11:44 PM
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Same here. I had what some would consider a lot of casual sex, but I have been most kinky and adventurous with my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 05:40 PM
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Oh totally. I don’t take anything here seriously, but it sure is entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 04:17 PM
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Red pill is all about “sexual strategy is amoral”, while believing themselves morally superior to women, whilst simultaneously holding women to higher moral standards. It’s hilarious to watch them try to explain their reasoning, and the only answer you get is “men and women aren’t the same.”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 02:50 PM
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so we agree. rp is essential That’s not what you’ve been arguing tho. ETA: you also called yourself a red pill man lol so there’s nothing “ex red pill” about you.
/r/ExRedPill31/07/22 04:56 PM
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Oh, so you are EX red pill? If so, why are you all over this thread supporting red pill? I don’t see anything “ex” about your comments. I, on the other hand, went down the red pill rabbit hole, saw how toxic and out of touch with reality it is, and now would like to help others see the reality of it as well.
/r/ExRedPill31/07/22 04:41 PM
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You’re not ex red pill.
/r/ExRedPill31/07/22 09:07 AM
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This is getting exhausting. Red pill doesn’t teach you how to avoid abusive people, it teaches you how to be abusive yourself. There’s a huge difference.
/r/ExRedPill30/07/22 09:39 PM
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No lol. Like I said before, the solution is to try to avoid abuse, not become abusers like red pill preaches.
/r/ExRedPill30/07/22 08:57 PM
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No absolutely not. How did you come to that conclusion?
/r/ExRedPill30/07/22 08:21 PM
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You do your best to vet and steer clear of anyone that shows signs of abuse. The solution to being scammed isn’t to start scamming other people. The solution is to be more cautious.
/r/ExRedPill30/07/22 08:19 PM
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Why not avoid women that abuse men instead of becoming an abuser? Do you value morals and ethics at all in life?
/r/ExRedPill30/07/22 08:11 PM
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No, it turns lost men into abusers.
/r/ExRedPill30/07/22 08:03 PM
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MRP is not an advice sub. It’s a sub to find more men to indoctrinate into the red pill cult. It breaks you down and tears apart your self esteem. It makes you believe that you can only be valued if you become a red pill robot.
/r/ExRedPill30/07/22 08:02 PM
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Red pill teaches manipulation and how to go after easy targets. It teaches putting your sexual needs above all else. It teaches men how to abuse and lie to get what they want from women.
/r/ExRedPill30/07/22 07:35 PM
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What’s wrong with sleeping around? Isn’t that what the men of red pill support for themselves? Also, why is it that red pill claims to be amoral, while also claiming moral superiority to women?
/r/ExRedPill30/07/22 04:59 PM
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There probably was, and still is, but you have decided that it’s easier to blame all women than seek help for yourself.
/r/ExRedPill30/07/22 04:57 PM
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How can someone give time, without also taking time? Also, what resources are being given? If you feel like you’re unfairly expected to cover expenses, can’t you just talk to them about it, or maybe just choose someone from the start that believes in splitting those expenses? Also what’s wrong with giving something and expecting nothing in return? Why does everything have to be transactional? According to most statistical data, men aren’t getting destroyed by family courts, but rather men usuall…
/r/ExRedPill30/07/22 04:55 PM
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Do you really think that’s the only thing that matters?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 04:43 PM
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So a man can fuck without being aroused? I don’t think a flaccid dick will get the job done. Also, no woman wants to fuck without being aroused. I don’t know why this is something you want to argue about. Like, you really are gonna try to fuck someone that’s not aroused by you? Well I’m done here, someone that doesn’t think sexual arousal is necessary for sex isn’t someone I care to argue with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:04 AM
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Clearly. Sexual arousal is needed for fucking. Sexual arousal, at least for women, requires mental stimulation as well as physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:45 AM
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I’m not talking about “making babies”, I’m talking about sexual arousal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:24 AM
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Huh lol? By your logic you can’t “stick your genitals” into someone’s looks either. Also, there’s much more to sex than just sticking your genitals together lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:17 AM
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Turn the lights off and you aren’t fucking looks either. It’s just as much mental as it is physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 11:35 PM
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Choosing not to answer questions from a stranger on the internet doesn’t mean someone doesn’t have “the capacity” to answer. There was no confusion on my part, there was no difficulty understanding simple questions, I was simply exhausted with the topic. The real question is why are you wasting your time insulting a stranger for no reason? Insulting my intelligence, or my ability to understand simple questions doesn’t hurt me, it only looks bad on you. Are you like this in person too?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:34 AM
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You are making smartass comments, and then seeming surprised when you receive a smartass comment in return. Your original comment to me had 3 questions. The first being a yes or no answer. I chose to answer yes to that question, but passed on answering the other 2 which would require a more thorough response. Then you responded with “having any difficulties?” (which is very strange phrasing) implying I’m having difficulty understanding…? So, I simply turned it around on you, maybe you were the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:06 AM
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I have no idea why you are having difficulties.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 01:06 AM
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Are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:10 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:53 PM
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I’m not saying it represents all men, I’m saying it represents the kind of men that are playing numbers game using pua tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:16 PM
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Do you not realize that these abusers start out as good men too? You act like women are getting with men that are abusive from the start when that’s not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:14 PM
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You do realize men can experience the same abuse as well, right? Having a trauma bond to your abuser isn’t something people are choosing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:37 PM
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We don’t want a creative pick up line either. Pick up lines are cringy. If I’m out and someone approaches me with genuine interest, he has more of a chance than a generic pick up line or just straight up asking for my number without even knowing a thing about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:40 AM
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Kinda like how all the guys on here use Instagram and onlyfans…..?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:27 AM
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I don’t know, possibly they do. But what I’ve seen on PUA YouTube videos and TikTok there’s minimal conversation, or very generic conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:37 AM
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There was literally no aggression or animosity in my comment so I’m confused about your “don’t shoot me comment”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:23 AM
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That literally has nothing to do with the discussion at hand lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:15 AM
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You don’t know for sure unless you actually see it, but there could be signs that give it away.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:14 AM
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If you’re able to figure out that it’s inappropriate, then don’t take that advice. But you and I both know that the average woman will agree with what I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:04 AM
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My best advice to you, is stop dismissing what women tell you. You’re arguing with me about how I personally, and many other women, prefer to be approached. Why is this even an argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 12:46 AM
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It you just approach and immediately ask for a number or all you have to say is that you think I’m attractive, then I’m going to be turned off by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 12:43 AM
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Are you intentionally being obtuse? My point is that women don’t want to be approached simply because you’re looking for women to approach. If you happen to be at the pizza shop and something about a woman (other than her being deemed fuckable by you) piques your interest, then talk to her about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 12:32 AM
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It doesn’t have to be a hobby. It could be any shared interest. Maybe you ordered the same coffee drink, or you noticed they were wearing a band shirt of a band you really like. Just don’t approach women indiscriminately.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 12:13 AM
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But you can’t judge someone for a transgression they didn’t commit just because you feel like they would have if they were in the position to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 11:50 PM
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This is a really important factor that men seem to forget. Playing a numbers game and cold approaching anything with a vagina is creep and a turnoff. Being approached by someone who conveys genuine interest, attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 10:33 PM
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If one persons actions make you sexist, you already were.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:31 PM
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No you haven’t lol. What are they insecure about? Not wanting to teach/lead someone that has never had sex isn’t an insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:02 PM
2

But what is the insecurity? You haven’t described an insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:35 PM
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So maybe 1% of the population does it? Definitely not something commonly done.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:34 PM
2

What is the insecurity?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 04:19 PM
2

Yes absolutely. Read this to know to stay away from any man that shares any similar opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:58 AM
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I completely understand what you’re talking about, I just don’t agree with the phrase that you used “women control access to sex.” That statement takes agency away from men. The only reason women get the deciding “vote” is because men have already agreed to it. Men can start rejecting and being more selective at any time, since no one is in control of who they have sex with except themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 09:26 PM
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If I ask you for sex and you tell me no, you are controlling my access to sex with you, since you didn’t consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 09:08 PM
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It literally does, if women controlled access to sex, then men have no control. No control= no consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 09:05 PM
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Then you need to rethink your original statement that “women control access to sex” as that completely negates a man’s consent. Here’s the true argument: women, on average, are much more selective with who they have sex with than men are, hence making casual sex much easier to get for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 09:02 PM
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You are saying that woman alone control access to sex. That’s implying that men don’t have a say in who the have sex with. That’s one of the arguments used against male sexual assault, “men always want it so they can’t be raped.” The argument that women are the sole deciders of who has sex is a slippery slope.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 08:53 PM
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I’m not being obtuse. There has to be two “yes” votes in order for sex to happen. Implying that only women’s “yes” matters is basically saying male sexual assault/rape doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 08:46 PM
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See!! You have to agree to it. You just put your circumstances out there for which you’ll agree to sex. Otherwise, you’ll turn me down because you control who you agree to have sex with and when.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 08:38 PM
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So can I come to your house right now and have sex with you? You cannot tell me no since I am a woman I alone control access to sex, is that correct? You don’t have a say, you have no control of it? You have to give it to me because I’m a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 08:29 PM
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Lmao, that just shows that many men are thirsty or just swipe without even looking, but it doesn’t prove that any woman can just walk up to any man and get sex. Both men and women have to agree to access to their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 08:19 PM
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The fact that you don’t understand that women can’t just get sex from any man they want at anytime is ASTOUNDING.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 08:12 PM
4

They can’t get sex on demand. They have to have a male agree to sex. Otherwise it’s rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 08:09 PM
5

Thank you for agreeing that both have to be consenting, therefore both control access to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 08:01 PM
3

There is no such thing as 9 month abortion. The “termination” of a term pregnancy is just birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:57 PM
3

No one controls access to sex. Sex is something that requires consent by both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:55 PM
4

Single mothers most definitely aren’t celebrated as heroes. They are pitied at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:53 PM
4

Not necessarily changed my mind, but he was basically invisible to me as I wasn’t really attracted to his looks. Then I got to know him and I started crushing on him like crazy because of how much I enjoyed being around him. He had a great personality and we had a lot in common. His personality made me attracted to him as a whole, looks included.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 09:59 PM
1

I’m married now, but the comment about being too tall in heels happened as an adult from dating apps. I’m not even that tall, I’m 5’7” but I’ve been told I’m too tall multiple times. The only time I was actually made fun of for it was in school, but I’ve been rejected for it as an adult. And models are desired by men for their status as a model, not for their height.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 03:44 PM
1

Yeah I know it sucks to be rejected for it. I’ve actually been rejected by a guy who was taller than me, but claimed if I wore heels I’d be too tall, and I don’t even wear heels. In middle school the boy I had a crush on called me q-tip for being tall, skinny and pale. Believe me, I know it sucks to be judged for height. All physical preferences are shallow. But that’s what physical attraction is, it’s inherently shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 02:53 PM
2

Everywhere I go, I see short women with short men. I’m tall so I notice and think “aren’t they a cute little couple.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:48 PM
1

That’s not really true. Nobody hates short men, they just might not be someone’s preference. It comes down to the individual woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:27 PM
7

It doesn’t help you, that’s true. I’m just pointing out that the 4” difference that you see isn’t women only going for tall men, but rather a visual display of the differences of the average male vs female.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:35 PM
4

The average male height is 5’9” and the average female height is 5’4”. That’s a 5” difference, so 4” is even less than the average difference in height.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:18 PM
2

Yeah I admit women can make it difficult to see the kid, that’s why the father has to go to court to get a custody order. It takes effort, but it’s not something impossible. Court sides with father 60% of cases if I’m remembering the stats correctly. And if the mother makes claims of DV/abuse, the court is even more likely to side with the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 04:56 PM
1

You have rights, hun. You have the right to decide where your sperm goes. You have the right to use birth control options, you have the right to choose to be a parent. The only right you don’t have is to make decisions on someone else’s body. I’m done here. You keep parroting a false narrative of men not having rights when they 100% have every right available to them. If you are aware that having sex can lead to a pregnancy in a woman’s body, then you 100% hold responsibility for that choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:02 PM
1

No. That’s your faulty premise. Once a child is brought into this world, the choices before that point are inconsequential. Things can and do happen to you that are completely out of your control (conceiving a child not being one of them) but it’s still 100% your control and your responsibility how you choose to respond to those circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:50 PM
1

The topic on hand is men choosing to abandon their child. A choice that is 100% up to the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:35 PM
4

Wtf are you on about? Men don’t get pregnant lmao so the pregnancy isn’t in their bodies. Men played no part in a pregnancy??? Omg this is epic. I’ve never heard mens accountability and agency be diminished this much. Men have the right to decide who they ejaculate in. Men also have the right to a vasectomy. They don’t have the right to make decisions over someone else’s body. But most importantly, men have the right to decide to be a father to his child or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:23 PM
1

Nope, men are the absolute deciders about whether or not they are present in their children’s life. Lets not infantilize men and pretend they don’t have control of their bodies and their decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:00 PM
1

Lolol “choose wrongly” You mean choose someone that’s not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 01:55 PM
2

Nope, not true at all. What’s the point in just making false claims that can easily be disputed?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 01:52 PM
2

Do you mean men control who they nut inside and whether or not they decide to abandon their kid?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 01:51 PM
3

Break ups are for relationships, not for parenting. Single mother households generally refer to mothers that have full or majority custody. Why are the fathers leaving the kids when the mother leaves him?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 06:03 AM
2

It’s not my statistic. Men often get custody when they actually request it in court. Most cases where the mother gets custody are decided outside of court. Men are choosing to give up custody to the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:33 AM
5

The studies in the OP are about children raised by single mothers. That would imply that the mother had full or a majority custody. Why is the mother raising the child alone? Breaking up a marriage does not automatically give the mother sole custody. When men request custody, the court sides with them 60% of the time. So again, the mother’s might “break up her family” but the fathers are the ones responsible for custody being primarily left to the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:22 AM
4

Umm, what does that have to do with men not being present fathers? It’s the marriage that’s over, but both parents are still parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:14 AM
8

I know, I’m just waiting for all the downvotes and comments arguing about how single mothers are the true evil that chose to have a child with a man that abandons their kids(since women are supposed to be psychics and predict the future).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:01 AM
15

Wouldn’t it be the father setting the child up for failure by abandoning them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 04:32 AM
4

Yes 1% is past 21 weeks. How many of that 1% is at 8 months? No woman is carrying a pregnancy to 8 months and then deciding to abort for no reason. Also, the main reason for abortions past 21 weeks are due to that being when the anatomy scan is done, and the results of genetic testing are available. The majority of the abortions are being done due to severe health complications with the fetus or disabilities which would cause stillbirth or only allow the baby to live for hours after birth. Straw…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:07 AM
5

8 month fetuses aren’t being aborted. Nice strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 01:34 AM
3

The only time there’s a child involved in an abortion is when it’s the child in need of one after being raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 01:02 AM
3

It’s not even about trustworthy women. You seem to think buying a woman a meal = payment for sex. So you’re upset you paid for the sex but never got it. But the problem is the women never agreed to this deal. So, not keeping her end of a deal that she never made, doesn’t affect her trustworthiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 11:57 PM
1

The fact that you think the average woman is having 3 one night stands in a month shows how far removed you are from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 03:44 AM
0

Same here, my husband has a high count and mine would be considered high by the men here on ppd. But years later we’re still married and not doing too bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:23 AM
1

What is considered sleeping around the town?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:20 AM
2

You do realize that people lie, and manipulate, right? So while you should communicate, you can’t just believe everything you’re told. You wait and watch their actions and not just listen to their words.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:31 AM
2

Possibly, or sometimes someone can have impaired thinking or lapses in judgment or a million other things. By being comfortable enough, it’s not only about safety. If you’re looking for a relationship, it’s about being comfortable enough that you’re not being misled or manipulated. If you’re not looking for a relationship, then you don’t have to fear being manipulated for sex, since sex is the goal. Relationships aren’t all black and white. You can’t apply logistics to something based on emotion…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 10:02 PM
2

Ok…? So then she keeps getting to know him until she is comfortable enough with him to decide if he is legitimate or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:21 PM
3

There is no such thing as consistency in relationships because you’re dealing with individuals, and relationships are all about feelings and emotions. It’s not some logical equation that you use consistently. Attraction/connections are different with everyone. The length of time it takes to feel comfortable will be different with each individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:19 PM
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I’ve never once in my life have heard any man claim that women that don’t have sex right away are not relationship material. It’s always the other way around. Men absolutely cannot tell the difference between women that sleep around and women that don’t. I’ve had many men make assumptions about me, whether it be that I seem so sweet and innocent, to claims that I must’ve slept with certain men because of how I was behaving around them. Their assumptions have always been wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:50 PM
3

What if it’s not making you wait, but instead choosing to wait for themselves to be comfortable enough to have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:47 PM
3

How will he know anything about her past relationships, and no one said waiting for commitment to have sex, just not having sex early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:02 PM
3

And how does not sleeping with someone right away make them a “disrespectful fool and a slut”?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:45 PM
1

Found out for what? What’s the worse judgment?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:21 PM
7

In a just world where everyone is upfront and honest with their intentions, there would be no need for it, but we don’t live in a world like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:45 PM
5

It’s not playing games, it’s more like being cautious in fear of harsh judgment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:37 PM
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Many men say that if a woman has sex with them too soon or to easy, they no longer consider them relationship material. So it’s pretty much something ingrained in women that if you want a relationship with a certain guy, you have to wait to have sex so you don’t come off as an easy slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 01:44 PM
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How do you know she had sex with them? I’ve had men try to insist they know I slept with someone that I 100% did not sleep with, but kept insisting I did like it was just a known fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 03:01 AM
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Why do men on here try to scare women away from men they find attractive with the argument that “Chads have options.” You seem to think it’s some kind of boogeyman. I automatically assume any man and woman has options. Having someone choose me because I’m their only option sounds like a nightmare. Also, I’m not competing. I’m just looking for a genuine connection and mutual attraction with someone with similar goals. If he finds someone that he meshes with better and has more attraction to, it’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 09:29 PM
-3

Don’t take my word for it. Look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:02 AM
1

I was referring to your comment about court biases. But yeah every case is different and there might be biases dependent on the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 03:29 AM
2

As long as the father is on the birth certificate, whoever physically has the child will have custody until a court order. For example, if the father had the child with him and refused to give them back to the mother, the child could legally remain in his custody until the mother takes them to court. The problem is, men tend to walk away from the child when they walk away from a relationship, whereas women take the child with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 02:57 AM
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Court bias is against mothers. Most mothers get custody because that’s decided outside of court.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 02:44 AM
-1

Who said it’s ok for women to be rude? Lol you guys just make shit up. P.s. rejecting someone that you’re not attracted to isn’t rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 07:43 PM
10

Because you described Mario as a fuckboy, I’d definitely go with Dario.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:23 PM
1

Can you please provide some stats saying that men are more at risk of getting assaulted/attacked by women? Men are responsible for about 75% of violent crimes so that is news to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:43 PM
2

What I meant is if a woman is attacked by a man, vs a man being attacked by a man, the woman’s chances of overpowering the attacker are far less than a man’s. We’re also talking about heterosexual relationships, men dating women, women dating men. The probability of a man being attacked physically by a woman is next to zero. Now if it was a man going out with another man, that would be different. Also, a woman is more likely to be sexually harassed or assaulted than a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:27 PM
3

The rude part is unnecessary, but by all means have as high and harsh standards as you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:03 PM
3

Yeah actually it is to most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:13 AM
3

So that means you chose to have a job where you’re forced to commute. Do you ever complain about that commute? Everyone I’ve worked with has always complained about the commute even though it was a choice they made.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:07 AM
3

Says who? The world is full of people complaining about the crap choices available to them. Having to choose between shitty options is a good reason to complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:58 AM
3

You really don’t have to drive, but it does improve your quality of life, just like dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:53 AM
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Are you not understanding that you can have a warranted fear of unsafe situations, while still knowing that in order to obtain your goal in life you have to risk those situations sometimes? Just with everything else in life that’s not fair, people will complain about it, while still putting up with it on occasion in order to live their life. Risks vs reward. Some guys are deemed worth a risk (while still taking precautions) and some aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:51 AM
5

Is death “that bad” to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:42 AM
4

Why risk it? Because you can’t live your life never taking any risks. People complain about unfair shit all the time. This is no different. women would rather reserve their right to choose Are you saying that wanting the right to choose is somehow wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:40 AM
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You can accept the risks while still complaining. Just like I mentioned above, people complain about unsafe or crazy drivers all the time, while still choosing to drive. There’s nothing wrong with expressing frustrations about the risks you have to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:28 AM
3

You can accept the risks while still complaining. Just like I mentioned above, people complain about unsafe or crazy drivers all the time, while still choosing to drive. There’s nothing wrong with expressing frustrations about the risks you have to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:27 AM
3

That’s exactly what women do….
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:21 AM
4

Therein lies the problem. It’s not just a specific man that is unsafe. But you can’t completely avoid it as it’s a risk you have to take every day. I hear people constantly complain about unsafe drivers, yet still choose to drive. You just take the precautions you can, while still taking the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:15 AM
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Women are the physically weaker sex, we are constantly reminded of that. No matter how much you want to deny it, the average woman is always at more risk of harm than the average man. Acknowledging the fear that comes from that imbalance isn’t the same as claiming to be some kind of hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:57 AM
5

What woman paints herself as a hero for going on a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:46 AM
3

You’re right, it’s probably more like 1 in 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:45 AM
0

Who said that having sex lowers a woman’s value? The majority of men on this sub for starters. Then there’s all the different religions that believe that, and a majority of conservative men. Oh and, yeah, if a woman sobs there will be a horde of men trying to take advantage of her vulnerable state.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:32 AM
1

Are you agreeing with it or pointing out how ridiculous it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:30 AM
0

We do not live in a gynocentric society. I’m not even sure such a thing exists. Shaming female sexuality has caused this so called hypergamy. If a woman’s value is lowered for having sex, why would she choose a below average man to lower her value. If she’s going to sacrifice her value, the man has to be worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:01 AM
4

Absolutely it does. Which is why men complain about the difficulty in getting casual sex. But tell me, who does this so called promiscuous behavior hurt?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:17 AM
1

Huh? Not sure what point you’re making but the underlying problem seems to be that most women don’t give it up as easy as men do, but then men in turn shame the women that do. Y’all are shooting yourselves in the foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:13 AM
4

If it shames them enough to refrain from predatory behavior, absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:04 AM
5

It doesn’t make sense to idolize something just because it might not be easily attainable for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:02 AM
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They can have whatever “standards” they want, and people can also choose to look down on them for it if they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:51 PM
8

Why does that matter? Why should the ease of something determine whether it should affect your value or not? Also, since the reason it’s so easy for women is because men are so easy, shouldn’t the person losing value be the men? Like, if you’re going to have sex with basically anyone, that affects your values as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:38 PM
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There is no wall. Some women at 35 look better than some women at 25. It comes down to genetics and how one takes care of themselves. Everyone will age, but it is a slower gradual age than rp claims. There is never a time you “hit” a wall and things start to drastically decline. If we’re talking about fertility wise, 35 is where a significant decline begins, but then again, it’s not true for all women as there are women well into their 40s still easily getting pregnant. The wall is cope for unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:08 PM
3

Sure you do buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:25 PM
2

Do what you want, but don’t be surprised that those women you covet are avoiding you like the plague.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:49 AM
4

You can still share firsts together with someone with experience. Virgin women can have baggage and be jaded by life. The experience a woman has, has nothing to do with the reaction towards things, that’s just an individual thing. Sounds like you want someone that gets excited over the bare minimum. Women and effort don’t mix that well. No clue what this is supposed to mean. The effort a person gives isn’t dependent upon their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:21 AM
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Women don’t walk around with a number on their forehead. There’s no way of knowing someone’s sexual history by looking at them so your premise has a lot of holes in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:35 AM
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What can an inexperienced women offer?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:27 AM
7

Physical attraction can get you in the door, but you need much more than that to make it last.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:43 AM
4

Show them your Reddit account. ETA: this right here is why guys that say they are “nice guys” are a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:43 AM
3

I’m sorry but I have to know, do you actually believe you’re a nice guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:36 AM
4

Because you can’t just be nice. You have to be nice, and attractive and interesting etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:34 AM
5

This world. Please come back to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 01:53 AM
7

30 year old virgin women, no. 20 year old virgin women, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 10:03 PM
36

I do. And it’s hard as fuck. I’m exhausted 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 02:54 AM
2

But….it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:00 AM
2

You saying that doesn’t make it true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:54 AM
2

The evidence shows otherwise, however it’s much easier to blame it on that instead of admitting that you didn’t even make an attempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:51 AM
3

So you’re just going to stick with your anecdotal evidence when the actual data says otherwise? Every man I know that wanted custody of their kids either has primary custody or 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:42 AM
5

That’s not accurate. Men don’t get custody because it’s agreed upon outside of court that the mother will be the custodial parent. Look up actual statistics. Look up why men aren’t getting custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:26 AM
1

The research I’ve seen shows women actually suffer more from divorce on average than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:52 PM
5

Statistics show that men who request custody, are likely to get it. If you don’t want to “lose” your kids, then don’t give them up. Child custody stats are really in the fathers favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:47 PM
2

Nah, it’s just as shallow. I can gain 15 lbs in a year and no longer have the body that attracted you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 03:36 PM
1

Maximum effort? Go look in the relationship advice subs and see what that so called effort looks like. Men put in effort to hook the girl. Once there’s commitment the effort slowly declines to not even the bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 08:40 PM
2

Hookup material: meets baseline attraction and in the right place at the right time. Boyfriend material: meets baseline attraction, enjoyable to be around, good personality, has similar life goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:15 PM
18

I think conservative or religious men are more likely to wind up in that situation due to slut shaming and purity culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 10:46 PM
7

The fact that you just admitted you can answer it for me proves my point. ANY benefit that you think a man’s career gives a woman would work the same in reverse. That includes benefits of income and social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:31 PM
6

Just admit that you can’t name a single way that a man’s career benefits a woman that a woman’s wouldn’t also benefit a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:02 PM
3

A woman should never ask a man to cook TF? Why not? Men ask women to work, pay bills, provide care and protection for the kids, but yet somehow expecting a man to cook sometimes is too much??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 06:36 PM
7

So you can’t say how a man’s benefits a woman?? It’s the same thing. Name one way a man’s career would benefit a woman, that wouldn’t be the same in reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 06:19 PM
6

Name 3 ways that a man’s benefits a woman, then you’ll have your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 06:12 PM
10

It benefits a man the same way a man’s career benefits a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 06:06 PM
19

For long term relationships, most men do in fact care about a woman’s career. Most middle class men go for middle class women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:46 PM
1

Yes I’m speaking from an American perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:23 PM
1

No, it’s misogyny and biblical indoctrination.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:21 PM
1

Like I said, teens can be cruel, but for the majority of adults, they aren’t shaming virgins. It’s usually the attitude around women and sex that gets them shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:22 PM
2

Women are more in the “don’t ask” category. We know it’s a possibility that they’ve been with many women, but we don’t want to hear about it or picture it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:19 PM
1

Oh, yeah maybe as high school kids. Even girls were shamed too by other kids. Teens can be cruel. I lost my virginity to just some random friend of a friend just so I wasn’t teased for being a virgin anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:18 PM
2

Actually, I don’t think most women want to think of their SO being with other women. It hurts thinking of another woman satisfying my husband, so I choose not to obsess over it as that would be extremely unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:43 PM
1

Incels are being shamed NOT because they are virgins, but because of their toxic way of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:41 PM
4

Because he just made that up. Or he’s got the red pill goggles on and interprets anything and everything in a way that confirms his biases. Woman in shock = disgust Woman trying to stay strong = disgust
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:18 PM
1

I’m not crying about it because I know it’s not true. Take any random 18 year old and compare them to any random 30 year old. Some 18 year olds are going to be more attractive and some 30 year olds are going to be the more attractive one. You cannot honestly claim something so objective when it’s a subjective topic.
/r/ExRedPill01/07/22 03:06 PM
6

You do realize that 18 year olds can have stretch marks and that 30 year olds can have athletic bodies?
/r/ExRedPill01/07/22 03:34 AM
0

If you’re talking about the OLD study that’s always referenced in this sub, it never said that they fucked the same 20% of men. It just said women only swiped on 20% of the men on OLD, and, as far as I know, it never said it was the same 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 07:52 PM
3

People don’t nag just to nag. It becomes nagging when their requests have repeatedly been ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:58 AM
3

Why do you think someone would feel the need to constantly “harass” someone to do something?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:51 AM
3

What is your definition of nagging, and why is she doing this so called nagging?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:56 AM
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Any man that complain about nagging is a red flag to me. What he’s really saying is that he completely neglected and ignored the needs in his relationship to the point that the woman had to repeatedly plead and beg him to do anything. It really tells a lot about the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:36 AM
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I do know what I’m talking about. Research what actual scientists say about evolutionary psychology. Evo psych is interesting and definitely gives you something to think about, but you can’t put 100% belief in something that is mostly based on assumptions. You seem extremely angry and just on the attack for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:14 PM
1

I’ve never once stated “everything is a social construct.” You seem to be debating the feminist boogeyman in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:07 PM
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I have never claimed to be a feminist, and I also haven’t taken any indoctrination courses. So, try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:37 PM
3

I have done research, that’s why I realize that evo psych isn’t a proven science.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 09:07 PM
7

Sure, but before you make that claim there needs to be evidence to back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 08:40 PM
8

Giving evolution credit for a societal construct is where the pseudoscience comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 08:33 PM
11

Your pseudoscience doesn’t interest me. Religion and patriarchal societies are to blame, not evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 08:14 PM
12

Are you denying that throughout history women have been forced to be reliant on men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:46 PM
3

I think you meant to say men have always oppressed women, forcing women to submit for their safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:31 PM
10

Any man that complain about nagging is a red flag to me. What he’s really saying is that he completely neglected and ignored the needs in his relationship to the point that the woman had to repeatedly plead and beg him to do anything. It really tells a lot about the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 05:54 PM
0

It might not be a reasonable request, but people’s brains aren’t always reasonable and rational. Both men and women want to feel wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:50 PM
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They want a man to show interest and make an effort. That doesn’t mean they want to submit in all aspects and have a male lead relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:30 PM
8

But it is the norm. Most relationships are egalitarian and there is no one “lead”, it will go back and forth depending on the topic at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:08 PM
10

But what if the woman already has a plan in mind? Can’t she do the same thing? i.e. inform him of it and then discuss from there?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:50 PM
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Huh? You should be asking those questions and giving your opinion. Women get annoyed when they are always expected to decide where to eat or when they always have to make plans. But that doesn’t mean they never want to make decisions or give input. Hierarchies have many people of equal status that are able to work together. In a relationship there doesn’t need to be one lead. It’s called teamwork, and you can work together to make decisions and sometimes you sit back and let the other one make t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:22 PM
8

Please elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:02 PM
5

Why does there have to be a lead?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:42 PM
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There wouldn’t be nagging if the man would just be cooperative and attentive to the needs of the home and relationship. Women want peace as well, but peace has to come from the effort of both people, not by the woman just bowing down and submitting to the man. That might bring temporary outer peace, but not inner peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:41 PM
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You have every right to think that, but then women have every right to decide you’re not worth having sex with, It’s a 2 way street.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:12 AM
2

Once again that’s simply not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:02 AM
9

That’s not true tho. It just depends on the individual person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:37 AM
23

women don’t really care about sex Wait, do you actually believe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:07 AM
1

Lmao, ok buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:31 PM
5

So does that mean average and below men don’t count for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:40 PM
0

Sure you do buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:19 PM
1

In other words, there are none.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:14 PM
0

Sources?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:53 AM
1

What institutional power do women have?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:52 AM
3

Are men and boys being harassed and assaulted at a high rate by women, simply for being males? Is this really a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:00 AM
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I’m a woman and I kinda agree. Women are the smaller weaker sex. Women are also the ones stuck with pregnancy and child birth. Also, men orgasm much easier than women which I think is a huge disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:02 AM
5

They would also be the worst you’ve had.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:16 PM
0

Ok…where does the used up aspect come into play?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:35 PM
0

I’m still not understanding the correlation between this so called baggage and being deemed used up. Every adult has lived through good and bad experiences. Having trauma doesn’t negate the good in a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:14 PM
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What constitutes as baggage, and how does this baggage in question make someone “used up”?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:55 PM
3

There are happy man all over the world living the red pill delusion of “Billa Beta.”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:51 PM
3

How can a person be “used up”?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:49 PM
1

So are we going to prohibit men from owning guns?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:55 PM
5

They do, but then men accuse them of “nagging”.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:54 PM
1

Do women never explain, or do men just not listen?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:41 PM
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Do women never explain, or do men just not listen?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:41 PM
9

Ok?? You asked for opinions based off of our own anecdotal experience. Why downvote me for answering your question?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:50 PM
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Based on anecdotal evidence, men. Every woman I know has been cheated on, at least once that they know of, by a man. Edit: I’d also like to add that the majority of men I know have cheated, or attempted to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:25 PM
1

So that just adds to the difficulty that women have finding genuine relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 11:15 PM
2

But women don’t want men that are getting into relationships for the purpose of having access to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:51 PM
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Yep. And it has nothing to do with the ex being an “alpha”. It’s about your attachment to them and your ability to heal and recover from a break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:28 PM
1

I’m taking this hard? I’m telling you from experience what dating in real life is like. This is inconsequential to me as I’m not on the dating market. I know you truly want to believe that women are suffering from being sluts, but it’s just not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:05 PM
-1

But they literally aren’t. Most men in real life, unless you’re in religious or conservative communities, don’t give a shit about how many men women have been with. And if they do care, they tend to keep it to themselves. It’s the undesirable men that like to shout from the rooftops how they’ll never be with a slut, when in reality they never had a chance with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:48 PM
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Like you said “dick is abundant.” So until that dick becomes a rare commodity, you don’t get to set the standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:36 PM
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I’m not the one struggling here lol. Men think they get to write the narrative on what should be shamed or not, but that’s not reality anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:22 PM
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That high count woman that you call a slut, isn’t easy. She still has standards and will pick and choose who she sleeps with. The man calling her a slut, was most likely just begging her for a crumb of pussy and would in all honesty sleep with someone he literally has no attraction to just to get pussy. Please tell me, who is really the “easy” one?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 03:51 PM
9

Why does it being easier for women make them the sluts? If it’s easy to get sex from men, wouldn’t the men be the sluts?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 03:10 PM
8

I bet he only assumes those that don’t fit his narrative are lying. Everything that falls in-line with his narrative must be true!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 04:54 PM
5

You were talking about slut shaming. Slut shaming has more repercussions than just being called a slut.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 08:35 PM
5

So if I get raped, and get blamed for it because of what I was wearing, it’s not a big deal because I can just have sex to make up for it? Please explain your rationale.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 08:19 PM
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Sex doesn’t make up for being harassed, degraded, sometimes assaulted, disbelieved in the case of rape and the list goes on. Slut shaming is so much more than just being called a slut.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 08:11 PM
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