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Honestly? Mixed feelings, just like most social media influencers. Some opinions he has resonate with me and I agree based on my own experiences. However, he also says some really dumb shit sometimes.
/r/MensRights11/05/26 06:33 PM
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Feminists’ frequent argument is that misandry isn’t real because misogyny has historically been much worse. “Misandry hurts mens’ feelings while misogyny kills women.” It’s just their attempt to dismiss and discredit men’s opinions.
/r/MensRights17/10/24 12:30 PM
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Deception isn’t gender locked - it works both ways. I don’t disagree with evolutionary biology at all, your point stands. Men and women have different needs, that’s why we pair up; and we try to partner with the person who will best suit our needs at a minimal cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 12:15 AM
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Did you just go from “all men are real men” to “real men… choose love,” in your next comment? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:46 PM
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“Getting his investment back,” key words there. Now you see why some men would pick the sex over the love. We get love from other sources, but getting sex can be tougher for a lot of men, hence the value.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:43 PM
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So is your argument that men and women are naturally biologically different and have different needs? Or is it that we are conditioned to have different needs? Also, some men may use love to get sex out of women, but some women also use sex to get love/resources out of men. Would you say that makes it fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:34 PM
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Doesn’t prove a point at all. You gave an ultimatum of two decisions, not full freedom of choice. But that being said, curious to why you chose the word “made.” How is romance “made” for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:17 PM
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Purple pill here and even I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:07 PM
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I think you should leave it up to the individual couple to decide what works best for them. Whether it’s money, sex, household expectations, etc… as long as they are on the same page, who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 10:53 PM
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It’s not common. Only in select scenarios, particularly in hip hop culture (pass a round) or swinger groups (hot wife).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 08:25 PM
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I’ll admit, I also had to scroll up to check.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:58 PM
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The top answer was literally “no.” Why would your understanding be the opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:53 PM
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Something that’s happens to 0.04% of the US population each year is not common (per 2022). 133,294 reported rape cases out of 333,300,000 US population. https://www.statista.com/statistics/191137/reported-forcible-rape-cases-in-the-usa-since-1990/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:48 PM
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This answer makes it seem like you just want to hate on men again because you can never articulate an actual argument. I already looked up the stats. I know how frequently it happens. Whether you consider it “common” or “rare” depends on how you quantify and interpret the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:16 PM
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How do you define “common”?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:50 PM
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Less politics, more “the matrix.”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:28 PM
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Probably the words I just quoted for you that you always seem to gloss over. Where are these “many people”? Are they in the room with us?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:24 PM
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If you know how words work, you should understand what “we” means. Where are these “many people”?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:17 PM
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To me, it just means I believe some facets of both red and blue perspectives to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:03 PM
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Well I am aware, if you want to deny it happens then that’s a you issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:56 PM
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Done. I just made it more illegal, problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:34 PM
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Rape exists. We are aware of it. We have laws against it and sexual assault. What’s the next step?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:21 PM
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If someone was in 100 relationships, I’d be more concerned about their mentality than someone who has had 100 hookups. Really bad example that didn’t address my points. What’s the magic number of hookups where you want to shame women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 05:01 PM
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Well that’s kind of my point. One person’s “extreme” is another person’s “common sense,” so how would we know where to draw the line so the vast majority can all agree? Regarding body count, what is “high” to you? Do we shame women for having 100 partners? What about 5? What about 15? As someone with a high body count, I absolutely dgaf what a woman’s body count is, as long as she’s healthy/no STI’s. Any man who tries to shame me for choosing a woman with a “high body count,” I would just laugh …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:49 PM
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Gotcha. So you would prefer if we had more groups like the Westboro Baptist Church who go around to events with signs and shame people for the smallest infractions against their religion? Meaning we should shame people for being gay, wearing skirts above the knee, exposing shoulders, playing “non-Christian music” (all music), and holding hands in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:42 PM
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Talk to me about what “socially accepted” means to you. Are we supposed to look down on people who participate in “socially unacceptable” behaviors? Are we supposed to call them out? Do we need a morality police force and arrest them like in a conservative, religious country? Where do you draw the line for socially acceptable behavior? Is it limited to promiscuity or can we do this about anything we find annoying?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:32 PM
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As someone who participates in hookup culture, I disagree. I enjoy it and it’s not ruining society. I don’t think there’s ever been a time in history or fiction when restricting peoples’ freedom of choice was a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:25 PM
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One woman shared her experience pretending to be a guy friend and trying to get dates from online dating: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNKUebK8/ Spoiler: it goes exactly how you would think, but somehow she had no idea until she experienced it herself. Edit: Realized the woman is the same from OP’s example.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:22 PM
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No idea. I would most likely prioritize my wife, but context of each hypothetical situation would be instrumental for giving an actual answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:11 PM
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Well, a best friend is someone who I’ve shared memories and experiences with, and who I can continuously bond with through our lives. We may fade in and out over time, but the connection is always there. A wife is the person I want share my life and start a family with - well, hypothetically, since I don’t want kids. We bond through mutual life goals, values, and passion for each other. To address your last point, it is not a lack of emotional closeness, it’s how you are labeling it. In your spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:47 PM
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To me, that’s a wild assumption. Emotional connection is required for both a wife and a best friend, but the type of connection can vary.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:23 PM
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I think it has to do with compartmentalized thinking, which seems to skew more heavily towards men. To me there are two different roles: a best friend role, and a wife role. While they can overlap and one person can fill out two roles, they don’t have to be. Kind of like having different groups of friends. Women may not be able to draw the line as distinctly and separate the idea. Perhaps to them, it’s about emotional closeness and not really labeling the relationship, so to them both “roles” sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:59 PM
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Stating a reason is proving that something is reasonable. Which is literally the definition of justify as shown above. Honestly, sometimes I can’t with this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:48 PM
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Justify: To show or prove to be reasonable. It’s literally it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:45 PM
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“I’m not attracted to a guy because of <insert ick>.” What do you think “justify” means?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:42 PM
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…and yet, that is exactly what they are trying to do. In fact, they are doing that publicly on TikTok.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:40 PM
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https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNvy1qJb/ Some women get the ick over anything. I’m pretty sure a lot of them make up these “icks” as justification for their own avoidant behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:00 PM
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I mean this was pretty obvious. From my days partying a lot in my 20s, there are a lot of women who get blackout drunk and can’t remember much the next day. Instead of taking accountability for their actions and say they drank too much, they say something like “I must have been drugged or something, I never black out like that when I drink!” No, it’s because you insisted on multiple rounds of rumplemintz shots. But if women want to take measures to protect themselves, I don’t see a problem with …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:14 PM
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Well it wouldn’t be Friday without another obvious rage bait post from Windmill.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:32 PM
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A study that finally corroborates my lived experiences, wild. But it makes sense to me, although I think the missing link is religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 11:42 PM
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…what?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:38 PM
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Well, I think there’s a big gap between “realizing someone isn’t a match,” and “suffering” through the date. Obviously, if I was “suffering,” I’d end it and leave. I’ve done it several times with women who showed up looking nothing like their online dating profiles. But just because person across from me isn’t wife material (to me) doesn’t mean I’m suffering. I can still enjoy being in the moment. Plus, maybe the other person fills a different role in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:27 PM
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I usually would, it depends on the circumstance. Maybe we already ordered our food?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:00 PM
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I don’t engage too much after I realize the woman isn’t a good match for me, so that includes asking questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:23 PM
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To be fair, that person definitely does not represent the viewpoint of all women, so take anything she says with a major grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:55 PM
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Seriously, within this same post, she both made up a statistic and then asked about the source of someone else’s statistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:46 PM
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What’s the over/under on how quickly this will get removed?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:41 PM
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Interesting stats. Kind of off topic, but if so few American women (I assume American based on your stats) are desirable, do you empathize with men who have either checked out of the dating market or who travel out of the country for a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:02 PM
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We already hear about this stuff all the time, so I’m not sure what would change. Women have been manipulating men for ages, and women’s dating coaches and FDS are just examples of them spelling it out for other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:17 AM
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A quick search of this subreddit shows that’s “literally” false. Here’s a recent one: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/6dnnMeE9z0 Women tend to bring it up more than men in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:48 PM
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Whether you think it is a “lame excuse” or not, it’s still a viable excuse for those men. If your claim is that these men are actually just scared of rejection and using it as a crutch, well, we can’t prove or disprove that, unless you can get one of them to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 10:34 PM
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Partially yes. A lot of men (subconsciously or intentionally) base their actions on risk/reward. Each individual has a threshold of when it is worth approaching. Low risk/high reward? Going to go for it. High risk/low reward? Not even going to attempt it. The seemingly increasing odds of being called a “creep” or being humiliated is an increase in risk. For some, the perceived “reward,” is also decreasing. Combine the increase in risk and the decrease in reward, and it’s no wonder why men aren’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:41 PM
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That’s fair. The women I have met while traveling can be hit or miss, but I think that’s an issue everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 08:21 PM
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I have been told this, too. The reason why American men may seem more appealing to some women of other cultures is that we are typically more liberal, progressive, and open to women’s rights than the local men, who are typically more traditional and conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:50 PM
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Yep this is it, thanks to the sexual revolution in Western culture in the 60s and 70s, American women started dressing more provocatively and having more casual sex (compared globally). American women had the stereotype of having fake boobs, bleach blonde hair, and being easy throughout the 80s and 90s, which is why they were popular. That stereotype has changed drastically. Now all Americans are stereotyped as fat, lazy, and egotistical. Unless some non-Americans want to correct me, this is jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:32 PM
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Because they purposely fail to distinguish the difference between “passport bro” and “creepy old ex pat,” and view them as the same. As someone with experience with this, your bullet points are spot on, which is why I support the idea for others who are interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:35 PM
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As someone who gets approached when he goes out… no, I’m not turned off. I’m polite and respectful to the ones I’m not interested in, but I have none of the hang ups and assumptions you have listed out. Also, your post has a lot of quotes in it… who/what are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:27 PM
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I reject them based on who they are now, not on some hypothetical guess of who they were when they were younger. Age is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:37 PM
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Yes, I didn’t engage with her at all on the topic because of her reply. That’s the point, and it IS about her history if she has a pattern of repeated behaviors. If she would have responded “yes,” then our conversation would have gone differently. Simple answer. No idea. Got any numbers to share? But anecdotally, yes, I have rejected women later in life who rejected me when I was younger. Do I make up rejection fantasies about random women I meet now? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:34 PM
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Listen, I get it. Women defend women no matter what. I was prepared to engage with her post, but when her comments assume the worst of men before a conversation even starts, what’s the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:26 PM
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I asked to give the benefit of the doubt, given her post/comment history. Given her follow up comments though, I will disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:19 PM
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Perhaps. If the chances of success are so little that, to you, it’s not worth the effort, then yes, disengage. But to those who think the reward is worth risk, then go for it. The main point is that you can’t expect something/someone to just fall in your lap unless you go and put some effort in.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:44 PM
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Depends on your values and what you want. You can’t expect to win the lottery if you never buy a ticket.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:19 PM
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No, It’s not. But it’s also inaccurate. Part of it? Sure. But “a lot,” I would disagree with. Maybe just from your perspective. Just like I recognize that some stuff from the women’s spaces is revenge fantasy as well, but I don’t consider that misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:38 PM
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1% chance is still better than 0%.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:24 PM
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Well hey congrats! Just like I’m not one of the misogynists of red pill, you’re not one of the misandrists of blue pill. Looks like we agree not to generalize.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:23 PM
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Disagree, but it also depends on your intent. If I didn’t cold approach and relied solely on dating apps, I would never be able to find something casual with an attractive woman. Attractive women don’t rely on dating apps to find men, that’s why the ratios are so off. They know that when they put effort into their appearance and go out, men will approach them. If you’re after one of these women, you’re going to have to go out and approach them. If you don’t, another guy will.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:19 PM
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Sometimes there is, but in one of her latest posts, she asked “why do men…?” But when pressed for details, turns out it was just her own revenge fantasy about a passport bro and she just wanted to vent about passport bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:12 PM
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Didn’t say “blue pill,” I said “blue pill women.” My female friends in real life don’t reflect the same misandrist, man-hating views that a lot of the women here seem to have. We actually enjoy the company of each other and don’t paint everyone with a broad brush.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:09 PM
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Kind of agree, just like blue pill women don’t represent normal women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:01 PM
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Disagree. Where did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:59 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:59 PM
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I have called out both sides. The only difference is the mods take down the RP vent posts within 30 min, but they let the BP ones stay up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:32 PM
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No, but your post/comment history and the frequency of both speaks volumes about your intent, no one needs “gall” to understand you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:09 PM
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So, because other guys call you a liar, you assume I would as well. Thanks for generalizing men yet again. Second, then why are you here? If you’ve given up reasoning with people, that just confirms that you’re not here for honest discourse, you just want to rant/troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:58 PM
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“Coz to you, all women do is lie.” Elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:53 PM
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Gotcha, so the latter. Nevermind.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:48 PM
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Are you asking a question in good faith or did you just want to rant about men again?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:44 PM
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It is crazy. First time it happened I was kind of in shock, by time the fifth girl said it, it became “oh, so you’re one of those types of women, got it.”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:24 PM
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It is. Having a extremely tall boyfriend is currently a status symbol in American culture, kind of like having an expensive and extravagant engagement ring. You’re right, they can’t tell, and since they can’t tell, it doesn’t matter. Doesn’t negate the fact that some women still insist on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:17 PM
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It’s not my issue, my comment said I was 6’-0”. Once again, most people recognize height is not an issue, but there is still a sizable portion of women who believe it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:15 PM
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Holy tangents, Batman, not going to read all that. Yes men want thinner women, but they don’t specify a specific size as a dealbreaker. If they did, we’d laugh them away. That’s the point. It’s fine to want a guy to be tall, but if you reject a guy because he barely missed your arbitrary cutoff value, then you should be laughed away as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:13 PM
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Yeah, because women eventually give up on their unrealistic standards and believe that they are “settling.” That’s the difference between single people and people in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:05 PM
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That isn’t what I asked you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:02 PM
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Do men say “I won’t date a woman with a waist size of 26” or more?”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:55 PM
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Yes, I do see it way more here in America than other countries. Some women won’t even consider you an option in person unless they have to break their neck to look up at you. If it’s not important to them, then why do they keep claiming it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:52 PM
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So when women communicate what they want, don’t take them seriously? Got it. Jesting aside, of course I don’t take those women seriously. No one should. Same thing with women who claim to be perfect tens. I just roll my eyes and move along when people are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:48 PM
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Doesn’t change the fact that is what they are looking for and communicating with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:42 PM
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Most people are aware it should NOT matter. But the frequency in which I come across women who do insist on minimum height requirements or “6 6 6 brainwashing,” is enough to call it out. The number of times in which a 5’-4” woman has called me being 6’-0” “too short,” should be zero, but it is much higher. But then again, to your point, America.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:38 PM
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Settling is accepting a less-than or different result than originally expecting or desiring. In the context of a relationship, that means accepting someone as a partner despite them not ticking off all the marks on your arbitrary checklist. Settling is also relative. The person may think that they are settling for someone “not at their level,” but usually any outside perspective would tell them “no, that’s your level, you just finally got realistic with your expectations.”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:01 PM
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Because they prioritize their needs/desires over the needs/desires of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:34 PM
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Agree with a caveat. I think there would be less relationships overall, but the ones that remain would be much happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:15 PM
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Women’s “pretty privilege” and all the benefits associated with it would disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:49 PM
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There’s two parts to this that I need to comment on / disagree with. First, it is not women’s fault if you are addicted to porn. Unless she forced you to watch it via some clockwork orange conditioning. You can get sexual relief through masturbation. Porn is a tool to help achieve orgasm. Psychologically, you may say it’s not as good as the “real thing,” but no one is not entitled to the real thing. Second, women who shame men for watching porn aren’t worth a second thought. There is always a pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:51 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:19 AM
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You’re not showing anyone anything. You’re ranting like a delusional person as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:28 AM
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Exactly. So once you get what, 10, 20 matches or so, you stop swiping, right? Or do you just start blindly swiping left after you collect enough matches?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:25 AM
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Don’t bother, she’s just ranting like normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:20 PM
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Once again, the rate at which a woman swiped right or left is not based on total number of users, let alone ratio of users. It only affects total number of swipes/matches, not percentages.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:04 PM
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“You know nothing,” then goes on to explain nothing. Great job. I do know how data works. But thanks for changing the goalposts from tinder to Hinge. That’s apples and oranges, because hinge sets a heavy limit on your number of “likes.”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:03 PM
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Well, American women seem to think I’m below average, but I consider myself average. I’m 36, 6’-0” tall, and fit. Thick head of blonde hair that my guy friends are jealous of, and blue eyes that my girl friends are jealous of. I modeled in my 20s, and have been taking great care of my skin over the years. I’m also a top 10% income earner with zero debt. By all those metrics, I’m a catch. But most American women think they are too good for me. So I go to where I’m desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:22 PM
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Swipe stats from OKCupid 15 years ago vs Tinder swipe stats from 2024. Correct, different platforms, but still similar enough to prove women have gotten even more selective over the past 15 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:13 PM
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Perhaps. I don’t know all the other guys that do it. But for me, it does work. I’ve been treated like an almost celebrity when I’ve traveled to places in Mexico, China, Korea, Costa Rica, Ecuador, and Argentina. People have stopped to take my photo. So while you may be harping on a small percentage of unattractive men, the average guy does get treated pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:56 PM
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Agree with the first part, which sadly happens a lot. The second part is a bit different and harder to explain. There’s a reason why there aren’t as many passport girls as passport bros. America has a pretty liberal culture compared to these passport locations. Men are traveling to find less liberal/more conservative women. And from my experiences, the foreign women like that I’m more liberal than their local men (machismo culture in LatAm, for example). American women are trending towards being…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:47 PM
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As long as you distribute harsh truths to men and women equally in this sub, you have no quarrel with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:30 PM
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As a kinda-passport bro, I can’t relate to this post. I’ve never once complained about these foreign women being gold-diggers or green card enthusiasts, because it’s pretty rare to come across it. Most of them just want to be taken out on a nice date and have a good time, and a nice date there is the equivalent of a cheap date in the US. Some of them do try and convince me to move to their country, but it has been uncommon in my experience. But then again, I don’t fit the description of the gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:24 PM
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If women swiped right on average of 7%, but all of their likes when to different guys (and not the same guys), then you would expect the average guy to be swiped right on 7% of the time. But it’s not. The average guy gets swiped right on 2.5% of the time. So this means the distribution is NOT equal, and that most guys get swiped right on <2%, while some guys are getting much higher rates of return. This means that, yes, in general, women are swiping right on the same guys with only a little vari…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:39 PM
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For your first question: I agree. If you already have a handful of matches, why keep swiping? That’s a good question you should ask the women who have tons of matches. Still doesn’t affect their left/right swipe ratio, just total number of swipes. Second, they might not be perfect numbers, but it is still the best data we have, unless you can provide a better source. But ok, let’s take into account the fake profiles. The fake women’s profiles swipe right on everyone, and most men are able to pic…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:33 PM
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Ok, so then you agree with my original comment? Not sure what your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:54 AM
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That’s great, but doesn’t disprove how selective women are if men are given the same conditions and swipe more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:40 AM
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Agree it’s hilarious. I don’t give a shit about n-count. But isn’t that the cheat code for those religious people that are saving themselves for marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:36 AM
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It’s almost like blowjobs and sex are two separate things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:15 AM
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No, but that’s mostly it. The majority of men and women have nearly empty profiles besides the basics. There’s nothing else to judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:12 AM
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And that point doesn’t even hold water. The rate at which someone swipes right/left is not based on number of users, it’s based on the profile on front of them. The number of users only affects the total number of matches, not the percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:08 AM
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That somehow makes it even more depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:56 AM
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Nope, still wrong. According to Tinder (which, by the way, I already linked the study for you previously in another thread, but you still won’t accept it), the average woman swipes right 7% of the time, but the average man gets swiped right on 2.5% of the time. That’s means women are swiping collectively on the same men, skewing the assumed average from the predicted 7%. You can’t just say, oops my source is wrong but I’m still right.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:53 AM
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I literally copy and pasted part of the article you shared. So you can’t read flair AND your own sources, got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:44 AM
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I would like to see more detailed data too, but there’s no way dating apps would release it. It would really highlight what a waste of time dating apps are for men, and that’s the primary source of income. Glad we agree the number is higher in real life. Obviously not drastically higher, but it’s at least significantly higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:28 AM
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Yes, that is what the quote from your own linked source said, thank you for reading it back to me. Women were messaging men that they thought were beneath them. Why do you keep glazing over that part?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:20 AM
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Still doubt this. According to Tinder, the average woman swipes right less than 10 percent of the time, and the average man gets swiped right on 2.5% of the time. Does that mean only 2.5% of men are able to find matches in real life too? I think that number is a lot higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:18 AM
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“But with the basic ratings so out-of-whack, the two curves together suggest some strange possibilities for the female thought process, the most salient of which is that the average-looking woman has convinced herself that the vast majority of males aren’t good enough for her, but she then goes right out and messages them anyway.” Yes. Clearly disproves it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:15 AM
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Seriously, what in the Jekyll Hyde just happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:05 AM
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Fair enough. Just wanted you to be aware that the current numbers are even more dramatic than your assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:02 AM
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Are you… surprised?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:01 AM
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I disagree on this as well. I do terrible on dating apps, but I actually have women approach me in real life. It doesn’t make any sense to me, so I’ve given up on online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:59 PM
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I will agree that the 80/20 rule is different from online vs real life. However, this figure is already out of date. This was from OKCupid where women only found 20% of men attractive. OKCupid is dead now. According to bumble and tinder, women swipe right on average around 5-7% now, meaning they have gotten even more selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:50 PM
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It is quite the stretch. It’s a probably correct conclusion, but not a definite one. “Yes that’s the point.” Yes that’s been my point this whole time, I’m really confused why you even jumped into this thread? And I’m not even going to touch the rest of your comment because I never said any of that. That’s you projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:14 PM
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Mods continue to show their bias by letting ridiculous posts like this to be kept up. Edit: I guess they choose to act when they get called out. But whatever, I’ll bite. Just create women only gyms if women need a safe space. Women are not entitled to feel safe, just like men aren’t entitled to feel safe. Your feelings are your own responsibility. Figure out a way to feel safe on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:58 PM
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No, we know they don’t care about the other persons feelings already, that’s been established. The flaw in your logic is your first line - person a actually doesn’t know that action x will cause pain to person y. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don’t. The person who does this just doesn’t care enough to reflect on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:47 PM
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I mean you and I can both speculate the exact words that these guys are thinking, but none of it is accurate unless you actually ask those guys. Until then you’re kind of making up your own narrative to satisfy your internal fantasy to put these men down (although rightly deserved).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:25 PM
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Damn, OP brought the receipts on this one. No notes. Edit: Until you said all women are trash. You were so close.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:44 PM
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And I never commented on the legality of it, because I already know about one-party and two-party consent laws in the states. I was pointing out how unethical it is, and by purposely doing it, you’re not considering the feelings of the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:11 PM
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It’s also legal for me to lie to women in order to have sex with them, but just because something is legal doesn’t make it ethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:04 PM
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You’re not helping your case.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:28 PM
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“Antisocial personality disorder, sometimes called sociopathy, is a mental health condition in which a person consistently shows no regard for right and wrong and ignores the rights and feelings of others.” - Mayo Clinic. When you record these women on dates without consent and treating them as data to be collected instead of as a person, are you respecting their rights and feelings? Or are you ignoring them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:05 PM
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Yeah that’s a tad sociopathic. We all do things to maximize our success in the dating market. That’s how redpill works. Your “strategy” goes above and beyond that, to the point where you want to record your dates without their permission? Bruh.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:53 PM
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Finally, someone is more of a sociopath than me in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:47 PM
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I was asking for examples from OP when she claimed there are women with triple digit n-counts. I prefer examples outside of porn and OF actresses, because that’s not casual sex, that’s work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:47 PM
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I never made any claims about “plates,” so you tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:44 PM
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Nope, you’re reaching with your logic again, and trying to paint me as some sort of predator who can only get off when the woman doesn’t like it for some reason. Women who are open to casual sex typically aren’t attractive. Men prefer having sex with attractive women. Therefore men typically aren’t into women who are open to casual sex. Need me to connect anymore dots for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:16 PM
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I mean, those are some descriptive “other words,” but sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:14 PM
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Thank you for saying that part out loud so I didn’t have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:46 PM
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Yeah I don’t get this logic either. Seems hypocritical to me. It’s kind of like how some women want men to open up emotionally, but when they do, suddenly they get the ick and are no longer interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:45 PM
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Finally, someone presses the real question. For me personally? I don’t care. I briefly dated someone in the industry. But most men don’t like women with a high n-count. Generally speaking, the type of woman who is open to casual sex is not the type of woman men want to have casual sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:36 PM
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It’s an explanation, not me supporting it personally. Where are these triple digit n-count women you were speaking of?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:15 PM
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You made a claim, back it up. I never justified it, don’t put words in my mouth. If you’re going to debate, at least try to do it correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:13 PM
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Can you point to one of these women? And they can’t be in porn or do only fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:08 PM
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They sure do, but in very small numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:06 PM
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Because being honest doesn’t get you laid. For these hypothetical men, once they realize the women is not relationship material (for them), but they are still sexually attracted to her, they don’t care if she views him as “immoral.” All he cares about is having sex and moving on. If a man was honest with a woman, and said that he does not see a relationship with her, but would like to sleep with her, what percentage of women would go along with that? I would guess less than 5%.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:03 PM
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I think this is where our opinions differ. I view dating as spending time with someone, having fun, enjoy to their presence, and getting to know them. Then, after awhile of dating and determining mutual feelings, entering into a committed relationship. You seem to want a man who will open up to you like you’re already in a relationship, just to consider him for dating. To me, that’s putting the cart before the horse. But if it is working for you, then keep at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:50 PM
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That’s a fair assessment. But as a guy, and to give you a heads up, there is no way in hell most of us want to be emotionally vulnerable during the talking stage. From personal experiences, most women get the “ick” if we open up too soon. Once we have been seeing each other for awhile and built up some trust/feelings, that’s a different story. So if one of your relationship needs is to have a guy open up to you and be emotionally vulnerable right away, I wish you the best of luck, since it will …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:18 PM
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So if you don’t feel anything for a man who checks off all of your boxes (perfect for YOU), then you should probably evaluate why. Most likely one of two things: 1) He’s not actually perfect in your eyes. He’s missing a certain quality but you can’t identify it yet. 2) You are currently not in a mental/emotional state to be receptive to the possibility of a relationship. But until you break down the “why” of your feelings, relationships will continue to be a struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:57 PM
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If you have the perfect man (for you) standing right in front of you, and you’re not interested, and you don’t know “why,” other than “my feelings,” then you need to take some time and figure out why you feel that way. Women often brag about having more emotional intelligence than men, but how can that be true if you can’t even understand your own emotions?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:09 PM
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Agreed. Context is important, so it’s hard to give general advice for something that is a case by case basis. I’ve had women stalk me and threaten me too after rejection, so I can empathize with the safety aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:52 PM
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As gently as possible, but if you couldn’t even consider a woman with brown eyes because it reminds you of your mother (who has hazel, not even brown), you may have some unpacking to do on that. But sounds like you’re settling down, so it’s irrelevant anyway. Congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:39 PM
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On things they cannot change? For sure. On things they have control over? That’s different. Once again, I agree you don’t HAVE to do anything. Just pointing out that would be hypocritical to expect the same courtesy that you yourself wouldn’t provide, which you have already demonstrated is not the case for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:36 PM
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Why would you? I have no idea, I don’t know you. It works for me too. However, when I reject women, I usually get pressed for more reasons on the “why.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:28 PM
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…and I agree with that. My point was if you don’t want to give feedback, don’t expect others to give feedback to you. Based on this comment, you wouldn’t press for an explanation either, so I have no issue with your approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:26 PM
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Wanting to be with someone you’re attracted to isn’t shallow or a fetish, that’s normal. I was specifying when people say something like “I only date people with XX color eyes.” That’s weirdly shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:12 PM
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Vaguely, yes, but not specifically. “You’re not my type.” This could be physically, mentally, emotionally, etc. The point is if you don’t want to be specific about why you’re rejecting, that’s fine, you don’t have to be. But you don’t get to complain if a man does the same to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:10 PM
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Well now you just changed the story. If she says she’s not attracted to you, that’s not a lie. I was referring to the “polite” rejections in your original post, that don’t mention attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:56 PM
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I have been fetishized for having blue eyes (and blonde hair) too many times for it to be considered a rarity. Surely you heard of recent viral song “looking for a man in finance?”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:53 PM
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…yes, there are a lot of people out there with a very shallow checklist of “requirements” in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:41 PM
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I still prefer the truth. Sometimes a woman has gotten the wrong impression of me, so getting feedback helps me adjust how I present myself, especially if it was something I was unaware of. For example, one women didn’t want to go on a date with me because of my religion. I asked her to clarify, and she said because my parents are religious, I must be as well. I informed her that wasn’t true, and suddenly her demeanor changed. It’s happened the other way around too. I broke up with a woman becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:38 PM
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1) No, it’s extra, since most other women don’t require those extra “fees.” 2) Kids are baggage. We can have empathy while still enforcing boundaries. It’s like how I can empathize with the homeless, but that doesn’t mean I have to let them live with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:08 PM
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I mean, some do, some don’t? My friends have kids, and they love being dads. Personally, I don’t as I am also childfree. It’s really hard to date in the Midwest as nearly every woman around me wants it already has kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:48 PM
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This is a great point. I would even go a step further and say “people” instead of men or women, because even in one of those groups, there is a massive variance in values. However, there are definitely clear patterns and generalizations that could said about each gender and their values.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:50 PM
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So a post that is about men getting away with creepy behavior because of their looks is okay, but a post about women getting away with crazy behavior because of their looks gets removed immediately for being “about looks.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:45 PM
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It’s subjective. When I was in college, my roommate and I tested this theory. I was very attractive, and he was unfortunately, the complete opposite, but still a great guy and a good friend. This experiment was his idea. We had group of friends out together a bunch of pick up lines, ranging from completely polite to completely deranged. We both tried out the same lines to women at our school while the others observed. There was zero correlation between what somebody said and how they reacted, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:42 PM
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Every “size queen” I have met/known was overweight/obese, and it’s not just correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:53 PM
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I would fully agree. I have yet to see a single case study where a man and and a woman, who have the exact same job, experience, and expectations are paid different base wages. Not to mention if that were to happen, it’s already illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:53 PM
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Yes, it’s completely my fault that women walk up to me from behind, proceed to touch/grab me, then walk away before I can even see who did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:32 PM
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I wouldn’t be surprised. Whenever I go out alone to a bar/show/concert/etc., half of the time I face some sort of sexual harassment /light sexual assault from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:57 PM
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….what?? Confirm what facts? What conclusion? You just jumped into a conversation and made up a claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:02 PM
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Well, that just isn’t true at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:57 PM
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Not even Ashley Madison. Tinder, Bumble, Hinge, etc. have all been increasingly flooded with fake profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 04:23 PM
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No. I would assume they are all fake profiles since that’s what they tend to be on other apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:01 PM
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“Having trouble attracting your target demographic? Change your target demographic to one that has lower standards regarding appearances.” Bi women may not equal ugly men (although I personally have yet to find a queer women attractive), but this feels like the message of your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:48 PM
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This has the same energy as men telling women who have dating struggles to just start dating uglier men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:29 PM
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What’s there to debate here? Just another example of average women thinking they are too good for average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:09 PM
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You beat me to it, I was about to say this isn’t a gendered thing. Most people are too stubborn to accept facts/reality on both sides. And while sometimes OP is correct on these men, sometimes the women here need to realize they are a niche group that isn’t a good representation of women as a whole. None of my girl friends even use Reddit, and most women I know have barely heard of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 10:03 PM
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Yes, thank you for quoting the study I also read.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 09:58 PM
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Don’t take it personal - it’s just my opinion based on the description. Boring to one person is another person’s excitement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:32 PM
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Yeah obviously people aren’t all swiping on the same people, they have different filters - the biggest one being location. But it’s still a handful of guys getting the majority of the likes, while the rest get barely anything. So while it may be true that you, Becky, and Jennifer may not be all swiping on the same guys, the rest of the women are. As for the second part, don’t put words in my mouth. The only claim I made was that I have witnessed women call themselves 10 when the clearly weren’t.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:43 PM
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How do you read “I don’t want kids,” and interpret that as “indifferent to whether you have kids or not”?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:07 PM
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Makes sense! Kids are important to you and a dealbreaker for me. Which is why we all have different preferences for a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:57 PM
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I recognize I have different values than the average guy here, and my dealbreakers are different. The religious girl is off the table immediately. Didn’t even finish reading the description. The tall overweight woman I would not be attracted to. The last woman comes across as unfrosted shredded wheat - bland and boring. I don’t want kids, I love dogs, and I need someone who is energetic and fun to balance out my reserved nature. She seems best for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:54 PM
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Yeah it doesn’t make sense to me either, but they still complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:40 PM
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Ah yes, a study from 2015 with a sample size of only 161 undergraduate students from a single university. Quite representative of people as a whole in 2024. 1) Yes, of course they behave differently. Doesn’t change their swiping habits or the hard data behind it (which is a much greater sample size than 161). And women using tinder are mostly complaining about the guys they match with aren’t giving them commitment, just hookups, another sign of shooting above their league. 2) Narcissism more com…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:43 PM
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If you can support that claim, I’ll listen. I believe it applies to both genders, but I recognize my bias because I see it happen with women more. From my perspective, two examples: 1) The average woman on tinder swipes right ~6% of the time. The average woman on tinder is not attractive (and definitely not in the top 10%), so they are definitively shooting above their league. 2) I rarely see men rate themselves “perfect 10s,” but I see a lot of women make that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:33 PM
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Of course attractiveness matters. The issue is that most people overestimate their appearance, and believe their “looks-match” is much higher than it actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:54 PM
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Call me crazy, but Finola sounds the best to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:00 PM
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Makes a lot of posts complaining about men wanting younger women, to a point of being obsessed with it, but also states she’s happy alone and doesn’t need a man… yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:04 PM
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Man or Bear debate. If women assume all men to be dangerous, and calling people dangerous is hate, then women hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:17 PM
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If that’s the line of distinction for hatred, then nearly every woman in this sub hates men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:08 PM
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We don’t hate them. They just aren’t desirable for most men who have options, so they aren’t on our radar - kind of like how women view unattractive men. These women have gotten so used to pretty privilege in the past, that the idea that a man doesn’t find them dateable is unfathomable. And of course they can’t be the issue, they’ve always been dateable, so it’s clearly the men’s fault. Cut to them venting on social media about how hard it is to find a good guy that will step up and be a “real m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:25 PM
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I am experiencing older women in the dating marketplace, but saying it is a competition would definitely be a stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:22 PM
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I wouldn’t have a high n-count if women didn’t find me attractive, and this is coming from a guy with higher standards than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:07 PM
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If you deliberately dress for attention, you’re going to get attention. It’s why high-vis clothing is an OSHA requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 08:15 PM
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Yes, I’m already aware of your posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:06 PM
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I wouldn’t change anything about her. It’s not my place. I wouldn’t be interested in dating her, but I wouldn’t say anything nasty to her either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 08:20 PM
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Nope, they are just long term girlfriends. Never marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:23 PM
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Exactly. If women want to have unreasonably high standards, that’s fine as long as they are fine being single. When they start complaining about “where have all the good men gone,” that’s when it’s an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 08:16 PM
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Wasn’t claiming you said it, just trying to get ahead of a common talking point by women. “Encompasses a lot of things.” Care to expand what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:33 PM
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First, I don’t feel emasculated when I go 50/50, or even when she occasionally pays. But beyond that, I’m open to both 50/50 and being the provider, depending on the woman or relationship, since I’m privileged enough to be financially secure. Some women want to be treated equally, as a partner; those are the ones that I do 50/50 with (they also want to split). Some women want to be taken care of, and play the submissive role. I have no problem paying their way, but they need to demonstrate what …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:14 PM
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I do, but I’m in the Midwest. It’s the majority of the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:39 PM
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No, the ones that shoot their shot and are polite about it - no big deal. It’s the ones that are are objectively unattractive, overweight, and broke that think they are way out of your league so they swipe left on you, or match with you just to insult you. If you’re a guy, it really messes with your self esteem when unattractive people think they are too good for you. Thank goodness online dating is not a good representation of the real world, just a subset of the delusional ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:19 PM
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Yes, but only with online dating. I get approached by attractive women when I go out, but the very few women who swipe right on my dating profile are all unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:45 PM
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Is there a link to the study? Or am I forced to watch a 27min YouTube video or buy his book for an answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:48 PM
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3%? Interesting. Where did that number come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:08 PM
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I’m glad others are realizing it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:34 PM
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Comments are already proving OP’s point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:00 PM
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Thank you for teaching me how averages work. I spent years studying math but somehow we never got around to that subject. But just to quickly address some points: I never assumed women swipe right at 7% in my area. All I said was “according to tinder,” and their data comes from worldwide averages. Yes, we agree that according to the numbers, articles, and Tinder itself, women are pickier than men. No, I do consider myself picky. At least for relationships. Regarding women? Who knows. I’ll refer …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:50 AM
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And your logic doesn’t work, because you are claiming that men use tinder as a numbers game while women use it seriously, without any reasoning to back it up your gender generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:06 PM
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“A significant number of men just swipe right on everyone,” What number would you guesstimate that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:03 PM
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And neither does your logic. You have zero evidence on what percentage of users treat it as a dating app, hookup app, or “playing a numbers game.” Until you can provide a breakdown, I’ll take the raw Tinder data at face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:52 PM
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Just re-read my last sentence so I don’t have to repeat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:49 PM
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Ok, you got those numbers for me then?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:41 PM
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Well, the bar is pretty low. There’s a reason I swipe left ~95% in my current city.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:18 PM
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Physical appearance/superficial standards, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:26 PM
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40%. On average men swipe right 40% of the time. Why do women keep insisting men swipe right on everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:21 PM
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I agree with you entirely. My standards for casual sex are way lower than a relationship. And I would argue that women are the opposite. But that’s a whole other topic of conversation and doesn’t disprove the swiping habits/selectiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:19 PM
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First, yes, that indicates attraction. If he wasn’t attracted, he would have swiped left. Second, that doesn’t disprove that men are less picky than women. After men match, what percentage decide they want to date? And how does that compare to the percentage of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:17 PM
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You’re just explaining what “less picky” means with more words now. By your logic, if men don’t care what a woman looks like, but women do, how does that not make them “pickier”?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:58 PM
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It could be. But then Match Group would have to admit that they have a rampant bot/fake profile problem, big enough to throw off their stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:55 PM
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You also have to consider that women do that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:27 PM
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I would be. It’s about 3:1 men to women on dating apps, so the 7% of men is roughly equal to half of the 40% of women, not equal. But I do agree that it is the best interests to have as few matches as possible. It helps eliminate the “illusion of abundance of options” that dating apps seem to have given people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:12 PM
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Still doesn’t matter. These are stats from the people that ARE active. You can’t get left/right swipe stats from people who don’t participate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:02 PM
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Same. Way too many times for it to be considered “an exception.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 04:48 PM
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“No” and “yes.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 04:40 PM
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According to Tinder, men swipe right ~40% on average while women swipe right ~7% on average. So while I won’t comment if women are “too picky,” we can still conclude that women are definitely “way pickier” than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 04:31 PM
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Respectfully, duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:29 PM
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Well, besides your own example, Women who are 5’2” but will only date guys 6’0” and taller. Women who are broke, but will only date guys who make >$100k a year. People who are obese who will only date people in shape. Just a few off the top of my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:40 PM
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Because double standards exist for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:25 PM
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Aw, I struck a nerve too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:03 AM
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She has another comment where she insinuates that the “majority of men” fantasize about rape. I’m not engaging with that level of crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:54 AM
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“I could name 30+ that I have met through dating,” not “dated.” Once again…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:40 AM
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Majority, but not limited to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:39 AM
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Congrats on not reading. I said 1 in 5 women on dating apps. That’s not me choosing the women, that’s the women in the dating market shown to me. I didn’t say it’s widespread, I said it’s not as rare as the women of PPD make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:38 AM
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Ok, I checked out your other comments, I think someone struck a nerve with you. Good luck on whatever personal vendetta you have against porn and men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:35 AM
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No need, I get it. There’s no “one size fits all” relationship advice, we are all looking out for something unique to us. It’s just a matter of hope and luck to find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:31 AM
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“Commercial Porn” is fake. Your words. That’s not the only type of porn. There is much more authentic and realistic porn out there too, including amateur stuff filmed with iPhones. Broaden your perspective a bit. For every man out there that believes a woman’s clit is connected to her feet, is a woman who made a video to convince that man it’s real.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:29 AM
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Well, you all did choose the bear…. /s So men understand porn is fake, it’s just a fantasy. And women understand romance literature is fake, it’s just a fantasy. /thread, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:17 AM
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Exactly, they are a minority, but still prevalent, and they exist. BTW, more women have posted/reposted that they want a 6’5” man than those men actually existing. It’s a fantasy. Racists are a minority, but racism is still a problem. Terrorists are a minority, but it’s still a problem. The percentage of rapists in society is a minority, but women on Reddit need to remind us everyday about how dangerous men could potentially be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:15 AM
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Men know it’s fake. Do women know that romance novels/movies where they get all their relationship ideals from are fake too?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:12 AM
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That is the far end of the spectrum I was mentioning. You’re still trading something - it’s a unique love for each other that only they can supply. It’s intangible and indescribable, but it’s something, because if it wasn’t, you could easily find that with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:10 AM
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Yes, that’s the whole point. Dual incomes are a necessity to survive these days, your marriage stats show that. However, there are still quite a lot of single women out there who haven’t realized that yet, and are adhering to their “gold digging” ways, insisting that they only want a man who will be responsible for 100% of their finances. The whole point of this post is to highlight how men come across these women all the time, but OP wants to know if women come across the as well. And perhaps I…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:05 AM
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Congrats on not knowing any personally, I could name 30+ that I have met personally through dating over the last 20 years, and add about 1 in 5 women that I see on dating apps currently. Can I apply your logic elsewhere? For example, I’ve never sexually assaulted a woman, and none of my guy friends have either. By that logic, men don’t sexually assault women ever and therefore sexual assault not a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:46 PM
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…that’s the point. Men don’t want gold diggers because we need someone to contribute to the household finances. There are very few men that can support a household on a single income, but there are way more women that want that lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:36 PM
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My theory is that all relationships are transactional. they are just on a spectrum ranging from tangible to intrinsic values. There are both men and women who want a purely tangible transactional relationship, per your first example. Other people may judge them for it, if it works and it’s what they both want, who cares? Then there are the majority, as you also described above, who are pretty close to the other end of the spectrum of pure egalitarianism. Their transactions are less monetary and …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:35 PM
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Does it matter? Two and five.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 09:58 PM
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I’ve met them on dating apps, in person, dated them, had sex with them, seen them get married, etc. Yes they exist, and no, they are not rare. They are the ones that put themselves out there more because their life plan requires them to find a man to support them. That’s why men see an over representation of them while women do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 09:28 PM
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Let’s be real here, all of us Americans should be anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 09:24 PM
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I could see that. I could also see this logic apply to lots of other fantasy escapes that we like to use on a regular basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 09:07 PM
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Two wrong assumptions back to back. Stayed in the house and I wasn’t paid. Took care of cleaning, laundry, dishes, watching the kids, and making food. It was basically what I did on my own already, just throw in a couple of kids to entertain.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 09:01 PM
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That’s a fair take. I agree that if your partner is choosing porn over you, there is definitely an issue that needs to be addressed. Jumping to blame porn is a bit hasty though, as there could be other reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:59 PM
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That’s a fair opinion, I slightly disagree as I believe it is reflective of their emotional state rather than mental one. However, doesn’t that mean that porn isn’t the problem, and just a symptom of another one?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:57 PM
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I think the problem with most men is that the number of women “ready and willing to have sex” with them is near zero. What then?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:50 PM
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Why not? On a specific hypothetical level, what if a man’s goal is not to date or marry, but just have sex, and prostitution is illegal and hard to come by, what is the most ethical way for him to orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:47 PM
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Agreed. Porn CAN be an issue, but there’s usually a more prominent root cause other than porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:13 PM
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It’s pretty simple: It should feel natural. If you don’t feel comfortable being vulnerable yet, don’t do it - wait until it feels right, even if they are pressuring you. Strangely enough, same advice could be used for having sex for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:22 PM
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As someone who decided to be a nanny to his niece and nephew while he was inbetween jobs… You all need to knock it off with this stay at home parent martyrdom. It felt like a vacation compared to my high-stress office job.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:12 PM
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You’re 100 percent right, you’re not going to change my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 12:22 AM
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Doubt it. Femcel rants get to stay up longer than incel ones. Edit: point proved.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:52 PM
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Well, your first paragraph is wrong right off the bat. Anyone who gets married between the ages of 18-22 is an idiot. The sweet spot for marriages these days is between 25-30. That being said, if you’re also single, aren’t you a “leftover” as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:08 PM
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Well, on average, men burn 400-500 more calories per day than women for just existing. So by OP’s logic, women who don’t have children should have to work more than men, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:38 PM
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Good point. Without the weird, this sub couldn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:33 PM
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It is, but thanks for assuming I’m an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:31 PM
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Is it more or less weird that a woman is making that claim this time?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:30 PM
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I agree with this as I have a similar mindset. But once I make a comment in this sub (or other dating subs), about not being attracted to overweight women, suddenly the women come out screeching about me being shallow and fatphobic. Including some nasty DMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:56 PM
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Agreed. Sometimes it’s hard to tell from just appearances, but as soon you start conversing with them, the signs quickly show themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:34 PM
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And according to the comments, this sub has quite a few autistic women to go along with the autistic men. This sub makes a lot more sense now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:04 PM
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…and if my grandmother had wheels, she would be a bike.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:28 AM
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Once you have a relationship, you can comment on them. Until then, you just give off the same energy as a middle aged overweight sports fan who thinks he can play better than the pros on the field. But to elaborate, she changed her mind and decided she wanted kids and I don’t want kids. So we split amicably.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:12 AM
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Yes, yes, and yes. How else would I have gotten to be a high n-count man?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:08 AM
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Well you failed to understand the analogy, but moving on…. I’ve never had a girlfriend cheat on me. Why do you keep jumping to conclusions that are so incorrect it’s laughable?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:07 AM
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My relationships ended because we realized we had different life goals, not because of our sex lives or infidelity, but I’ll let you keep trying to poke holes in my lived experiences. Anyway, go find your evidence and come back when you have something of substance to share.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:03 AM
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She went to a buffet, tried a little bit of everything, but decided that you were the best and wants to stick with you. How is that not a compliment?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:56 AM
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And women value a man who has enough self respect that he doesn’t need to get drunk and stick his dick into every “community dumpster” he comes across.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:55 AM
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Well, I have a high body count, I’ve been in multiple relationships, and I’ve never cheated. So… theory debunked already. But I’d love more relationship advice from someone with your flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:54 AM
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Value is subjective. Ask yourself what you value in a person, and not what others tell you to value in a person. You might just be able to open your mind a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:45 AM
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Looks like she was able to get over her disgust for you, too bad you can’t do the same for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:41 AM
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So if you’re disgusted from committing to her, what makes you so sure she doesn’t feel the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:39 AM
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Well, before this thread gets locked, I guess my answer would be that since I have a high body count, I think it would be hypocritical of me to judge her high body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:37 AM
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Number 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:21 PM
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This is why I have a dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:45 PM
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As a man from KC, I’m embarrassed. Luckily I don’t let a group of people most likely to have brain injuries give me life advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:37 PM
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Title IX almost got me kicked out of university for a false rape accusation. Only thing that saved me was the girl admitting she lied, otherwise I was going to be out the door with zero evidence. It’s not a “boogeyman story.”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:27 PM
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Glossing over how you basically said that anyone who used dating apps is a creep. Pretty sure you’re trolling at this point. Yeah so that’s the issue. You’re conflating “easier to approach” and “easier to approach and succeed,” which are two separate ideas. “Easier to approach” than ever - not true, or at least not demonstrated how by your comments. “Easier to approach and succeed” than ever - possibly true, because according to you, there is less competition. Is that what you’re trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:08 PM
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So all the women that I met on dating apps and went on dates with, were they creepy too? Or is it only men that can be creepy? Also, you have yet to prove why you believe it is “easier” than ever. What’s your metric besides feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 03:28 PM
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So if it is easier to use apps instead of approaching people, doesn’t that defeat your argument that it is easier to approach today than ever before? Or should the argument be changed to “it has never been more effective to approach women,” since that coincides with your last comment? That I could agree with. Edit: also, dating apps were around 10-15 years ago, and they were amazing back then. They are actually way worse today.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 03:09 PM
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Yes, that’s the point. More men were approaching because it was easier to do so. I understand your point is that since less men are approaching, there’s less competition, so it should be easier to succeed with your approach, but that’s not necessarily the case, because the bar of standards has been raised by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 02:50 PM
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I’ll debate on a technicality. It has “never” been easier? Nope. It was way easier about 10-15 years ago. Is it easier than it was 1-2 years ago as your claim? I’d agree to that. A lot of people are finally dusting off their social anxiety that followed from being isolated during the pandemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 02:12 PM
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This is one of the main points. If you’re going to get used for your money either way, might as well pick the more attractive option.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:11 PM
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Good try, but I never said I was angry. Don’t try and put words in my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:22 PM
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It’s not delusional to like yourself, that’s self esteem. It’s delusional to call yourself a perfect 10, because that doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:02 PM
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Most men don’t hate women with self-esteem. The men you are referring to are the ones that hate women who go above and beyond high-self esteem to a new level of delusion. Flip the genders, a similar example I could give is confidence. Women tend to like men with confidence, but too much confidence goes into over-confidence/cockiness/arrogance (and even delusion of their own), which is a turn off to women. So it’s not a matter of self-esteem, it’s delusion. Some men are tired of average women get…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 01:53 PM
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Well thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:57 AM
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You’re right. Fun, casual, dating without commitment, sounds terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:49 AM
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Unless you can cite a specific state and its law, I’m going to call BS on that one. I would love to hear how I would have to pay alimony to someone I never married and child support for a kid who isn’t mine and already has a father paying child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:16 AM
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Elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:02 AM
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Because I was already suspicious of that happening once, and my suspicions were correct. But there’s this magical thing that adults do called “communicating” where we discussed our feelings and expectations for the relationship, and got back on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:01 AM
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For some people such as yourself, maybe, but it works for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:50 PM
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Specifically in my case, because it’s mutually agreed upon. I’m currently dating a wonderful woman, but I told her before our first date that we could never be anything serious because of a dealbreaker. She said she didn’t care and wanted to see me anyway. We get along extremely well and have great chemistry, but we both recognize this is only short term while we keep our eyes open for others. And for those who are curious, it’s because she has a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:19 PM
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Apologies, but also thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:51 PM
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No, because you asked a very general question, and so there is not a single answer that applies to everyone. Kept it vague so multiple people can apply it to their own situations. I know my boundaries, desires, and dealbreakers for a commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:45 PM
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As short and vague as possible: Because she’s good enough for now, but doesn’t have what I need for the next step.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:39 PM
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I think it would be a great thing. Men who only want women for sex now have a easily accessible and legal way to get it, and sex workers now have more freedom and safety to do their work. Because those men would have an alternate outlet, women would not be getting bombarded with sexual requests on dating apps and social media, perhaps making women feel safer, although also possibly feeling less desirable, since thirst traps wouldn’t bring in nearly as much attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:19 PM
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That’s the part you needed to correct? Wow. Username does not check out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:24 PM
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Just like how legitimate rapes cannot happen to women. “The female body has ways to shut that down,” - Todd Akin. Can’t believe we need to deal with a rape apologist here in PPD now too. Just never thought it would be a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:22 PM
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Agreed, they are pretty much worthless these days. But the women that do continue to use them are extremely picky, per the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:15 PM
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It’s closer to 95/5 now based on recent swipe stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 08:23 PM
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I have casual sex and short term relationships while trying to find someone for something long term or even marriage. I think I’m in the minority though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 02:23 PM
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I go to bars for a drink, socialize, and even have dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:42 PM
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Damn we almost agreed on something. Why can’t he go to bars?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:41 PM
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You shouldn’t care what anyone posts on social media. The type of people that feel like they need to make a TikTok of them crying about how hard dating are either faking it for attention or they are not well-adjusted to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:39 PM
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Personally? I wouldn’t care. As long as she’s not cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:31 PM
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Oh my bad. I should go tell my fwb that we have to end things then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:21 PM
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This isn’t gender specific. Flip the genders and it still holds true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:16 PM
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Well for starters, a unicorn woman is different to every guy, so there’s no standard that all men can agree with. For context, I’m in the US Midwest, but here is what I consider my unicorn: 1) attractive face with minimal to no makeup 2) slim/athletic figure 3) doesn’t have kids/doesn’t want kids 4) agnostic/atheist beliefs 5) minimal/no tattoos and piercings (big tattoos like chest and neck, and septum piercings are automatic no’s) 6) has a stable career so they aren’t a financial leech Those i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 02:35 PM
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Since your post allows me to come up with my own qualifications for what a high value man is, then sure, I’m a high value man. …just glossing over the entire concept that value is relative.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 04:12 PM
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But, if not worked on, shrugging off rejection can becoming shrugging off effort. Then shrugging off effort become shrugging off women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:11 AM
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It’s a perfectly fine question to ask. For a lot of people, their career is a reflection of their skills, income, interests, and lifestyle, and can help gauge compatibility. However, I have been on a date (and conversations on dating apps) where a woman asked what I do for a living and then had the audacity to be offended when I asked her the same question. Being a hypocrite is the red flag to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 04:20 PM
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I think the problem with that, is that when there is a movement started by men for men, it immediately gets painted as “misogynistic” in order to discredit their struggles. MRA and MGTOW are two examples that were created as a positive thing to help men with their struggles (even red pill to a degree) and to form a community for men who were dealing with similar issues. Sure, there are some outliers who weaponize it, but the same could be said about feminism as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:00 PM
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I think, in general, men have lower standards than women, although I would consider myself out of that group since I’m apparently pretty picky myself. However, also in general, the standards men have for a relationship are way higher than those of a hookup/ONS. That’s why women get flooded with likes on dating apps. There are a lot of men out there that would hookup with the average woman, but would not date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 07:04 PM
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On dating apps, women swipe right at an average of 2.5%-6%, depending on app and location. Men swipe right 40% of the time. Women are definitely pickier than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 12:26 PM
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Delusion isn’t restricted to single gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 12:20 AM
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So you took to the time to read our comments, search for yourself, and found the study, but decided not to link it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:51 PM
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I did. Zero results. Try again if you want to contribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:23 PM
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Ok, I’ll bite. Where’s the study that everyone keeps referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:14 PM
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As a man, I find it weird to obsess over a woman’s sexual history, unless it has long term ramifications. But I am also not a hypocrite. I’ve had some one night stands in the past, so I would not judge a woman for the same. Edit: See below for why I cannot get fully “red-pilled.” A bunch of guys who talk about “studies” but can never show you a single one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:49 PM
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I’ve been there too, but it’s not very common. There’s a lot of levels to this, but if I get into it too much I’d be downvoted to hell in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:40 PM
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Men don’t “have to” do anything more than women do. Both parties need to demonstrate effort for successful relationship. But that is separate from preferences, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:36 PM
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Agreed. Women don’t care about men’s preferences and men don’t care about women’s. I don’t think this is a RP vs BP issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:14 PM
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It’s not a shaming tactic. People (with a few exceptions) start to look worse as they get older, usually between 30-40. Men lean into the aging process. They don’t cover their wrinkles with foundation and dye their gray hair in order to look better like women do. Eventually women stop putting as much effort into their appearance, usually from a major life event, so their appearance rapidly catches up with their age. That is all that “the wall” is describing. Do some men use this as a shaming/sca…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:12 PM
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Do women even care about men’s preferences in general? I think this is a “both sides” issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:06 PM
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Google reviews? Movie reviews? How many examples do you need to see where people (not just men), use a numerical system to communicate a qualitative comparison hierarchy system?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:45 PM
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I said SOME women, not all women. Some women are absolutely delusional. They claim they are perfect 10s, so they won’t settle for anything less than perfect. But the kicker - they are completely average or below average. Those women then complain about being single because the men don’t live up to their standards. Yes, those women should absolutely be criticized. By the way, the same goes for SOME men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:06 PM
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As someone who also dates abroad, it’s great. If it’s something you’re fortunate enough to be able to do, I always recommend traveling. People who travel can get outside of their little bubble and get to learn new perspectives and enjoy new experiences. BUT, I would also recommend that you travel for yourself as the primary reason. Don’t travel for the sole purpose of meeting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:00 PM
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Why would I? I currently have no reason to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 09:43 PM
0

Some, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 09:39 PM
5

Pretty easily. I’ll just keep being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 09:36 PM
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Go for it, I don’t care. Just don’t blame men for your own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:04 PM
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Exactly. OP’s point is moot regarding the makeup. Women are the ones who care about makeup on each other, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:04 AM
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So does she wear the eyeliner for you, for herself, or for other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:59 AM
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True, but then you get to a point of trying to determine what is a standard and what is a checklist. For example, I won’t settle for a woman who is overweight, doesn’t have a job, or has kids. Are those considered standards or a checklist?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:06 AM
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According to the women of PPD, women wear makeup for other women, not for men. If you regularly wear makeup to alter your appearance, but then one day decide not to wear it, of course you’re going to look different and get called out for it. You set the expectations and standards with your appearance. Imagine if a new guy started at your work. Everyone else dresses casual but he wears really nice suits everyday for a couple of years. Then one day he suddenly dresses casually. You don’t think som…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:52 PM
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Because it’s not an “obvious gift observance” if you were raised in a family that didn’t do a lot of gifting. People have different traditions/gifting expectations when it comes to special occasions. However, if I care about someone and they have communicated how significant gift giving is to them, then of course I’ll get them something.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:22 PM
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I’m not familiar, could you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 10:12 PM
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I would love to agree with you, but you can’t just say “they legit studied this” while failing to link to the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:59 PM
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What? Double standards for this sub? And for Reddit in general? You don’t say.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:50 PM
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You’re probably right. It’s just a workable theory. But taking complex ideas and breaking them down into simple structural formats is how people like to analyze and inform. And people like to organize their thoughts by grouping and compartmentalizing things. If this wasn’t true, then things like MBTI, enneagram, and horoscopes wouldn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:48 PM
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Agreed, and I think the biggest takeaway is that… it’s all perfectly fine. Everyone has different expectations for a relationship, so it is important to find someone whose expectations complement yours. Otherwise you’re doomed to stay in an unhappy/unhealthy relationship. If you don’t want to give gifts, don’t be with someone who expects gifts. If you don’t like doing acts of service, don’t be with someone who expects it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:43 PM
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So let me get this straight, according to PPD logic, if a video of a woman making unrealistic demands of men gets tens of thousands of likes and comments from other women, that doesn’t represent all women because it is “just social media,” but this video gets a handful of idiots to agree and suddenly it counts as “evidence” against the “manosphere”? Make it make sense. Either all viral videos are on the table or off, you don’t get to just pick and choose when it supports your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:57 PM
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Yes, holidays are a people thing. Celebrating them is gender neutral, it’s a matter of the importance each individual places on it. But the gift giving goes back to OP’s premise of which gender tends to want more gifts. Out of all my couple friends, the men are expected to spend more on gifts than the woman. But then again, this could also be because the men also have higher incomes than the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:17 PM
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I’ll have to agree with OP that the majority of women do just from personal experiences. Out of all the relationships I’ve been in and women I have dated, all but one expected gifts for birthdays, Christmas, anniversaries, and Valentine’s Day. And a good amount of them expected me to occasionally get them flowers to “prove that I am thinking about her even when we are not together.”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 04:39 PM
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Even I am going to disagree with this one. I’ll pitch an alternate theory: it’s a difference in “love languages,” assuming one believes the idea of “love languages,” has merit. Of course this is a major generalization, but I notice when women have this prompt on their online dating profiles, the top two responses are “gift giving” and “acts of kindness,” while men tend to select “quality time” and “physical touch.” In short, this means that (some) women believe that men should show their love wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:56 PM
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No worries! I’ve been there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:49 PM
3

I don’t think you picked up what I set down there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:43 PM
2

Eh, both genders on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:27 PM
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I think it’s funny that people here think that popular videos from TikTok that get hundreds of thousands of likes/comments don’t count as “real life” examples, but we are supposed to take their comment with three likes as an absolute truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:12 PM
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It’s not the same no matter how you try to tell yourself. Traveling abroad and staying there is way different than buying a woman and bringing her to the US. Your ignorance is making you emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:52 PM
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Yeah, that’s what I thought. You don’t actually know what’s going on, since none of what you said actually happens. You’re thinking of mail-order brides, not passport bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:35 PM
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Why do you keep making false equivalences to human trafficking? Is that what you think this is?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:27 PM
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Educated men also know they don’t want to be in a relationship with shitty women. Those women can’t fathom at being lonely, so they vilify men for exploring better options. What’s worse, being used for your money by a shitty woman here, or being used for your money by a more attractive option abroad? …see how that sounds?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:59 PM
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This again? I’ll just copy and paste. “The wall” is simply a term that is used to describe when someone’s appearance rapidly catches up to their age. This can affect men or women, but doesn’t mean it is inevitable for anyone. The term is used for women more often than men because women often do more work/artificial things to hide the aging process, including wearing makeup, getting work done, and dying their hair. Eventually, the woman stops/slows the maintenance of that work, and then her appea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:27 PM
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Your argument is based on a false premise. “The wall” doesn’t explicitly say a woman’s value declines when she hits 30. “The wall” is simply a term that is used to describe when someone’s appearance rapidly catches up to their age. This can affect men or women, but doesn’t mean it is inevitable for anyone. The term is used for women more often than men because women often do more work/artificial things to hide the aging process, including wearing makeup, getting work done, and dying their hair. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:56 PM
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So what happens if we meet or exceed all those benchmarks and we still struggle? Do our opinions actually matter then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:44 PM
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I see. So you believe this applies for all women? There aren’t any women out there that feel like they need to wear makeup in order to feel accepted and be attractive to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:54 PM
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Great, then we both agree with OP’s premise: Some women wear makeup because they feel like society forces them to do so. Although I feel like “force” is too strong of a word, I think “pressured” is more appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:36 PM
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So if I am understanding your argument, you are saying that women wear makeup because of the societal pressure of other women, not men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:03 PM
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Sure, in certain contexts. But not in the context of this post. I could say “social acceptance is not about women, it’s about being accepted into the “in group” of men” and that would be equally true, but has nothing to do with what we are discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 06:31 PM
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Where in my comment did I mention patriarchy? I was pointing out the “because society forces them to.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:51 PM
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“Link to a single woman on this sub saying this.” I mean, two of the top three responses on this thread so far are saying this. Because of society/social acceptance. Edit: I linked the comments above, but apparently linking evidence is against this sub’s rules, so I got an automod message saying my comment was deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:43 PM
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So, since one guy is able to get women to cheat on their partners with him, this applies to five to seven billion more people, depending on what you mean by “most people.” Math checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:30 PM
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Nope, my parents/relatives have always split the tasks equally when we would host parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 10:48 PM
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It seems like your family had major issues with sexism and gender roles, so I can have empathy for your perspective. This tends to happen in some conservative and religious communities. But you have to realize that not all parents failed their kids like that, so not all men and women end up like you and your siblings and cousins, fearing/hating the opposite gender as adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 10:43 PM
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“We can all agree the sexes are socialized differently, no?” No, we can’t. That’s an example of a sexist generalization. Can you tell me how I was raised to “be aggressive,” and “seek domination,” while my sister was raised to be “cooperative,” and a “people pleaser,” despite having the same parents and childhood? I would prefer if you could provide specific examples of how we are conditioning young men and women to fulfill your outlined gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:47 PM
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“What if you think most men aren’t good people…” Well then I would suggest therapy to get over your blatant sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:35 PM
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Sure, but some of those women on dating apps with high standards complain about men not living up to them, and some don’t. I don’t think it is fair to generalize the women in either category. But also, I get it. Go browse the dating app subreddits. Occasionally a woman will post her profile for a “review,” but she’s really just venting about about how although she gets 5-10 likes per day, she’s complaining about the “quality” of her likes/matches. Then you glance at her profile and you just thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 07:31 PM
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No argument here, but on the flip side of things. I’m a guy who is comfortable being single. My standards for a partner are high. I firmly believe that “settling” for someone would make my life worse, not better, so unless the right person comes along and makes my life better, I’m content being single. The difference is, I’m not going around complaining about how awful all women are and complaining about being single at the same time, and that is the disconnect. I’m sure there are women that hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 07:05 PM
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36M 6, 4, 9, 7, 5, 8, 3, 1, 2
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 10:52 PM
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No argument here as a childfree man. I have been in a couple LTR’s in the past, but now I am perfectly happy being single and I’ve found my best stride in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 09:38 PM
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No, I fully understand it. My grandpa passed away at the age of 90. He wanted to pass away at 80 right when his health started declining. He had lived a full happy life, and wanted to be remembered by his grandkids for the smart, strong, fire captain that he was, not the emaciated, brain dead disabled man he was for the last ten years of his life. My grandma forced him to painfully stay alive so she wouldn’t be alone, or as you call it, “taking care of him.” It just depends on your vantage point…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:49 PM
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I mean, that could be true, but it’s also not necessarily true. Some people live miserable, long lives while other have shorter, happier lives. So I think there could be a correlation between between marital status and happiness for men, but I think it’s a bit presumptuous to assume that married men are happier because they are married. I think it’s more realistic to say that the type of men who choose to get married are the same type of men who would self-report being happier, but the causation…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:31 PM
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This statistic always gets thrown around, but the biggest issue I have with it is why do we assume that “living longer” is equivalent to “living happier?”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:10 PM
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Agreed. It’s the same energy as when a man claims that all his exes are crazy. What’s the saying? Something like, “if it smells like shit everywhere you go, you might want to check your own shoes.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 04:52 AM
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Yep, I’m a man and I have several good friends that are women. Absolutely zero sexual tension, and we hang out and catch up just like guy friends. However, I’ve also never considered any of them to be romantic options. Any woman I’ve dated that ended with the “let’s be friends” talk either ended up being a friend with benefits or just an acquaintance, no in-between. So I understand OPs point a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:34 PM
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It really depends on your end game, but unfortunately, you are correct. If your only goal is to sleep with women and you do not care about morality, then yes, the best strategy is going to be to lie. However, if you want a serious, solid, long term relationship that leads to marriage, lying will eventually ruin it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:25 PM
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Hmm, if only there was a term that describes how people look less attractive when they age, specifically in cases when it happens more drastically over a short period of time…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:51 PM
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Can’t read either one, but if you’ve been on that sub enough, there are lots of examples of double standards. The tattoo one awhile ago was a big one. OP is interested in getting a tattoo. They know their partner doesn’t like tattoos. OP goes and gets a tattoo anyway, partner voices their distaste afterwards. When OP was a woman - NTA “your body, your choice,” and “if he doesn’t like it, he can date someone else.” When OP was a man - YTA “you actively did something your partner didn’t like, why …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 07:20 PM
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Yeah I figured. I’m one of the data points that seems to get thrown out since I’m outside the standard deviation. I guess this helps explain why I read a lot of posts here and my first thought is “that’s not how people work.”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:27 PM
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A little surprising. I figured I had more experience with dating/sex than the average member here, but I didn’t think it was by that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:26 PM
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Eh, your “celebrity” example was debunked, so now we are left with “other red pill podcasters” and your personal example as evidence that men are hypocritical? I think you’ve got the exception and the rule switched in this one. Also, what is your relationship with the personal example individual?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 11:38 PM
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Just read it. Like the other commenter said, more of a double standard than being hypocritical. He never said he wanted a trad wife, he only promotes it for others (and to make money).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 11:31 PM
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And I know hundreds of men who haven’t done that. So let’s skip the personal anecdotes, and focus on your specific example. Tell me more about the Myron example and how he became a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 11:15 PM
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Can you give examples of men who idolize the traditional type of women, yet becomes a hypocrite when he gets into a position of power or high status?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:44 PM
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I’d say quite the opposite. If you’re looking for a way to measure sexual achievement (as weird as that already is), the best metric would be for an experienced woman to tell you that you are the best she has ever had and not lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 11:12 PM
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Remember those old 3d hidden pictures/optical illusions? They looked like messy art, but if you held the picture to your nose and slowly moved it back, you’d eventually see an image jump out at you. Same concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 11:32 PM
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It’s a cool party trick! I cross my eyes so I see two images of the same thing, then relax my eyes until they overlap and “lock” onto each other. Everything on the image looks crisp, except where there are small differences - those parts “flash” between the two images, so I just quickly point them out before my eyes strain too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 11:17 PM
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I can solve the “spot the difference” puzzles in less than 5 seconds by purposely crossing my eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 11:11 PM
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Yep. For example, as a liberal man who doesn’t want kids, the middle of the US Midwest is not a good market for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 11:10 PM
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“Normal” women on dating apps ignore >95% of men on dating apps by swiping left right away. I think you’ve got the whole “who ignores who” thing backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:38 PM
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Careful, you’re one small step away from realizing what passport bros figured out awhile ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:39 PM
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Just keep taking care of yourself. It gets harder as you get older, but it’s not impossible, nor is it a monumental challenge for most people. If you’re fit, healthy, and put effort into your appearance, you will most likely keep being attractive well into your 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:48 PM
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Meanwhile, women on tinder swipe right on less than 5% of men these days. So does that mean women have gotten even more selective?
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 06:31 PM
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Red pill: looks are most important Blue pill: personality is most important Mods: Got to make sure this debate is fair, let’s ban any discussion on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:28 PM
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Blue pill wrapped up in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:13 PM
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“She’ll figure it out.” Except they never do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 11:27 PM
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Yes, their appearance has value, not disputing that. But there are some women who think they are way more attractive than they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 11:22 PM
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“Inexpensive and convenient.” Nailed it. Men will try to have sex with the best option possible, but if you’re driving down the highway and Taco Bell is your only option, you’re going to eat there anyway, despite wanting something better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 11:03 PM
2

Oh yeah, I forgot that homosexuality was a choice! My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:58 PM
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If you think a woman’s attraction is based on whether men will sleep with her or not… oh boy. You know some men will fuck anything right? Body pillows, couch cushions, heated up fruit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:46 PM
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Completely unrelated. That’s more of a supply/demand issue. Taco Bell does not even come close to having the best Mexican Food, but they get tons of customers. Does Taco Bell really think they are 10/10 Mexican food?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:42 PM
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“Women don’t overrate their appearance…” So all it would take is a single example of a woman overrating her appearance to prove you wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:01 PM
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Looks over at Bumble and the intent behind it… Yeah, that’s never going to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:00 PM
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That’s true. I suppose the difference is claiming whether you follow that belief yourself or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:52 AM
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Demanding/requiring your partner (inherently an “equal”) live up to a standard that you yourself cannot/do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 12:07 AM
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Yes of course that’s hypocritical. Just like when women want a man that makes more money than themselves. It’s just a matter of what kind of trade off is acceptable between you and your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 11:32 PM
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Or maybe women are choosing career paths that require college education, vs men who are choosing careers in trade professions that don’t require it. You know, just spitballing here from my sex-obsessed brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 06:56 PM
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“Many of the so called average men involved in RP can find a regular average woman to match with on a dating app…” Is this a joke? That’s one of the biggest issues with online dating. Average women swipe right on only 5% of guys or even less. They are the ones that think they are too good for average men, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 05:18 PM
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How do I feel about unattractive women? The same way I feel about any random stranger, man or woman: indifference.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:05 PM
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It’s from statistics. “n” is a popular letter to use for independent variables, sometimes stands for “number” as it typically represents a whole, positive number rather than “x” which is used to any number, including fractions/decimals and negative ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:31 PM
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I think you described what men’s rights activists want in those first three items, not necessarily what red pillars want. There may be some overlap between those two groups of people, but they are definitely not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 07:47 PM
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As a straight man, I agree. I treat unattractive women the same way I treat other men: with politeness and a modicum of basic respect. Although I wouldn’t use the term “invisible,” as I acknowledge their existence… maybe “indifference”?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:20 PM
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It’s a bell curve, not a straight line with equal distribution. Meaning there are tons of people in the 4-6 range, but very few people who are actually 0-1 or 9-10.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 08:48 PM
3

Who are these men? Are they in the room with us right now?
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 07:43 PM
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Ok, a couple points: “They can just see a sex worker.” Nope, still illegal in most places. Don’t know why that seems to be a common argument with women around here. Second, “many men blame feminism for the fact that women now have more rights and freedoms in society.” I mean, yes, THANKS to feminism, women have rights and freedoms. There is definitely a cause-effect scenario there. Some INDIVIDUAL men don’t like women having rights and freedoms and prefer having all control over them; we call th…
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 07:38 PM
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I understand what you are saying, but there is still a big difference between something qualitative and quantitative. Can you point out an example where a man had an “ass size requirement” that was a specific measurement and wasn’t just assessed visually?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 06:55 PM
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Nailed it, no notes. A lot of the comments seem to agree with OP, yet not commenting under AutoMod.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 06:25 PM
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“Never seen that before.” …because it rarely ever happens. If you can find a man who rejects a woman because her chest is only 32D and not 32DD, he would be ostracized as a creepy weirdo for getting hung up on such a small detail. However, (some) women think it is ok to reject a man because he is only 5’-11”, and not 6’-0”. Or that he only makes $99,999/yr and not $100k. Why? It’s because they are shallow and they are looking for a status symbol, not a partner. To yours and OP points, some men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:02 PM
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Yep. I’m 6’-0” even, and the taller women (5’-8” to 6’-0”) don’t usually have an issue with it, but the women who are 5’-6” and under that have told me I’m not tall enough. It’s wild out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 02:16 PM
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Because then you get banned for “abusing the block function.”
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 04:55 PM
2

“Maybe I’m in a unique environment though.” Gee, you think??
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/23 09:21 PM
5

What does any of that matter? If you’re so worried about her taking your assets, why would you care about her taking these as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 11:39 PM
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Oh that’s easy. Don’t marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 11:22 PM
5

How about you explain what you believe “financial autonomy” means first and we will go from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 11:10 PM
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Can’t believe you’re trying to double down on this from earlier. “Comparing society reaction for one gender vs society reaction for another.” Still Apples and Oranges. If you were comparing double standards in society, you might have a point, but once again you cannot compare society’s reaction to sexual assault to society’s reaction of a man and woman entering a consensual relationship where the man willingly gives money to a woman. If you honestly cannot get your head around the idea of consen…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:31 PM
1

Pardon the ignorance, but what’s “oneitis”?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:58 PM
2

I’ve done profile reviews on an alt account. Got very minimal advice, and the top comment was “no idea why you’re not getting matches, maybe it’s your location.” I got more women sliding into my DMs than comments with advice. My swipe stats show that women swipe right on me at a rate of about 6%, which is apparently higher than average, but most of my matches are with married women/couples. I also did some modeling on the side when I was in my 20s, and my n-count is higher than average. …So I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:47 PM
2

Man, that’s tough advice to follow. I like to focus on someone I’m really interested in instead of making it a numbers game, otherwise, to your point, I feel like just another thirsty/desperate creeper out there. But I guess that’s all you can do really since dating apps are a bust.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:17 PM
1

I guess how would you measure being socialized? I go out with my group of friends every week at least once, and I approach a woman on average every other week.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:47 PM
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Here’s the weird thing, I check off all of those criteria, but I only consider myself slightly above average. I am very socialized and have a great group of friends. And it is still really rough out there; and I’m coming up empty on why.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:41 PM
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As a childfree man, I wish there were more childfree women in the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:38 PM
1

There I go what?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 08:52 PM
2

Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 08:43 PM
2

If it’s something that you can control, it’s a reflection of who you are and the choices you make.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 08:31 PM
3

I don’t know, can someone control their weight like they can control their height?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 08:01 PM
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I don’t know, you tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:33 PM
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That’s my idea of a shallow woman obsessed with height, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:30 PM
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Oh ok. You’re right. One man is a bad person, therefore so many men are as well. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 09:10 PM
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Oh look I can link stuff too. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/15twq2y/why_do_so_many_men_not_seem_to_care_whether_women/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1 Here’s this thread, where you claimed “so many men.” Stop pushing your generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 09:03 PM
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So about 4 men from those comments = “so many men,” got it. Definitely not a generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:52 PM
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You’re right, it’s all our fault. Shouldn’t have ever allowed that pesky 19th amendment to get ratified. Society would have been utopian by now. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:13 PM
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Can you point out a specific example of a man here who doesn’t care?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:09 PM
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Height is important to shallow women. It’s so she can post cute couple photos to Instagram in her favorite heels and get validation from her friends/followers. Can’t do that if he’s her height or shorter, that ruins the aesthetic she wants for her profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:21 PM
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It is a matter of effort vs reward. I never get as much as I give when it comes to women, so it is just not worth it for me. I am happy with everything I have in life, and everything that I “need” I can provide for myself or get readily easily without having to be in a relationship.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 06:00 PM
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Honestly, great notes and overall I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:11 PM
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“Women are conditioned to…” What? Women aren’t brainless zombies, they can think for themselves. Why do they do it for themselves or for other women? Confidence. And that confidence comes from being attractive. It absolutely can make a 5 look like an 8. It happens all the time. If this weren’t true, none of us would know what a Kardashian is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 09:55 PM
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You’re joking right? If that were true, then why do women spend so much time, money, and energy on those things if they don’t do much?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 09:31 PM
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True, even my industry has some women, but the unfortunate part it is still heavily dominated by men of all ages, and the only women are usually aged 40+ serving admin roles. I guess the point is for some people, the opportunity to build social circles with women doesn’t just fall into your lap like you would hope/think. Some people really have to go out of their way to develop them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 08:40 PM
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I mean, it kind of depends on a case-by-case scenario right? Sports are still gendered, unless you’re talking about adult co-ed leagues. Which still struggle to get women to fill out the roster, hence there’s always a minimum requirement for women and not for men. Sitting next to each other in class? Depends on the class. My engineering classes were pretty much 95:5 male:female. Work? Same as class. Really depends on the profession.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 08:25 PM
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“Photogenic” may be the word you’re looking for. That being said, “In the majority of couples, the woman is more attractive that the man.” Sure, when they go out. But when they stay in they are much more even in appearance. Most couples look average, and therefore are similar in attraction. But when a man and a woman go out, the woman has the ability to temporary increase her sex appeal more than a man does, so to the outside viewer, the woman is more attractive than the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:30 PM
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Yep. OP mentioned the post in a comment, pretty sure you’re right.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 10:34 PM
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Oh interesting. So per your CMV, the women at sex parties are more attractive than men, but everyone at these parties is partnered up before arriving, I think the real question is “why are these attractive women pairing up with unattractive men?” Are you saying women partner up with men they don’t find attractive? Or are they just not attractive to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:11 PM
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Yep, hence why it really depends on the party/get together. Sometimes OP is right, sometimes OP is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:04 PM
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Yeah there’s a whole beauty/marketing industry that has been targeting women for decades, yet has only started targeting men more recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 05:55 PM
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Same with my area, it’s a limited list that gets vetted pretty heavily, usually you need a reference to be invited, or invited by a couple/single woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 05:52 PM
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True, the “lifestyle” has a wide range of things. But for those couples, and from my experience, the couples are looksmatched with each other. Both the men and women are overweight/unattractive. Just go to your local r4r on Reddit. You’ll see lots of average guys thirsting after overweight married women, due to the scarcity of women in the lifestyle. Edit: also, some of those extremely attractive women are paid to be there. They are the ones that everyone looks at, but no one can touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 05:45 PM
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As someone with actual experience with this, I’m not sure if I agree with you or not. It really depends on the type of couples/people/relationships at the party. The most common is a “hotwife” couple, where the woman is seen as a trophy wife and the husband has lots of money/status. He’s not there for his own sexual pleasure, he’s there to show off his wife and let other people have a “taste” of what he has on a regular basis. Yes, I realize how gross this may sound to some people, just trying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 05:40 PM
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See, that makes sense. In your opinion, why would other women be much more selective and only swipe right 5% of the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:06 PM
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If you can see a message first, that means the guy as already liked your profile, so not a true neutral swipe. And that’s limited to Hinge, not Tinder and Bumble. How about an estimate for a percentage, can you do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:00 PM
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Edit: Age is a filter most apps already have, so that shouldn’t affect your swiping habits. Also, you can’t consider their first message as a filter, that happens after you swipe/match. So based on your other factors, how often do you swipe left?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:50 PM
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Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:39 PM
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Black/redpill men: duh
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:08 PM
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Congrats on meeting your husband! And I agree, OLD is not the best way to meet people anymore, dating apps have gone so far downhill over the last 10 years. That being said, nearly everything you have listed out applies to both genders. It’s why I only swipe right about 10-20% of the time. But going back to your original comment, if average women find average men attractive, why are they so easy to dismiss them at such a high rate of 95% on an app that is focused on appearances? Are 95% of avera…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:46 PM
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Both, and the women of this sub don’t, hence the original comment I was replying to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:33 PM
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You’re dancing around an answer here. If an average woman is looking for one good partner, how does she decide which one to swipe right on in a stack full of average guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:22 PM
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Men (including myself) are aware of this, I am trying to get the women here to also admit to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:17 PM
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So you honestly think little qualifiers like that eliminate 95% of the dating pool?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:10 PM
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Ok, then walk me through the thought process of a woman on a dating app trying to find a man to date. What makes her swipe left or right? Edit: also, what claim, and what does that have to with my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:02 PM
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What does that have to with it? If a man’s profile says “looking for a relationship” and he has a good profile, and he is average looking, why would a woman swipe left?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:01 PM
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If that were true, then why do women on dating apps only swipe right ~5% on average?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:31 PM
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I have. You’re not wrong, the ratio of women:men is quite favorable for single men, however, most of the single women are not my type.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:52 PM
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Value is subjective. One man’s trash is another man’s treasure. But for the sake of argument, a “high value woman” is a woman that has qualities that the majority of men find attractive in a potential partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 10:28 PM
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Labels it’s “CMV,” but doesn’t express a view to change. Claims it should be “discussion,” but doesn’t want to discuss the topic. Was this post just to vent?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:57 PM
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Ok, so you’re still comparing men hooking up with each other for no-strings-attached sex to straight dating culture. Still not the same. Also, you ignored my question regarding some specific examples of red pill beliefs that were shattered.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:19 PM
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I find it laughable that you think gay hookup culture is comparable to straight dating culture. Apples and oranges. But on to the main point - the CMV in your title, what specific red pill beliefs were “shattered?”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:08 PM
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It feels weird to (mostly) agree with Lillith for once.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:10 PM
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I don’t have a response to this, but this can help get the discussion moving forward. There’s so much variance from country to country that it felt like the OP was too vague. So thanks!
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 10:11 PM
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Could you give some examples on what you believe are the “social and cultural expectations” and “prejudices” these men will face?
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 09:58 PM
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Why is this a question for women??
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 04:00 PM
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“The wall” is real and it is pretty simple. It is when your looks catch up with your age. Women try to look young by coloring their hair, wearing lots of makeup, spray tans/bronzers, using filters (for photos), inject Botox, and lots of methods to maximizing their temporary attractiveness on a daily basis. So a woman who is actually 35 with her hair and makeup looks similar to how she did when she was 30 without the additional work. Men typically don’t do this, although it is becoming more commo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 05:46 PM
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Oh wow thanks, could you elaborate? I have never heard of this concept on Reddit before.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:57 PM
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I don’t demand or ask for submission, but for me it’s not about being submissive, more so being agreeable and not fighting me on every little decision. I am aware this sounds egotistical, but objectionably speaking, I’m smarter than the average person and I am usually right. But I also know that I can be wrong, and have no issue admitting it when it happens. I have dated women in the past that are stubborn and insist they are right in an argument. But they are usually wrong, and then it affects …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 06:25 PM
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All but three of those.
/r/AllPillDebate27/07/23 09:01 PM
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In college, I was extremely attractive, to the point where my nickname was “hot security guard” to all the others living in my dorm. My roommate was the exact opposite. Super nice guy, a little weird, but unfortunately very unattractive. We were both nerdy, and got along really well. He often said he liked living vicariously through me since I was hooking up with a lot of women. We tried an experiment with the women around us. We would both approach, and give the same “pickup lines” and noted th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 05:54 PM
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I’m an asshole and you agreed with me. Sorry. I upvoted you if that helps!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 11:46 PM
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I’d rather have the occasional blue pill post than the constant stream of racist shit lately.
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 10:30 PM
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I’ve always thought about it like volume on a TV. I can’t leave it on 19 or 21, it has to be 20, even though there is barely a difference between the three. It’s an arbitrary benchmark to quantify (height measurement) a qualitative property (being tall). Women (usually) like taller men than themselves, but most do not care about a specific height. Only when pressed to specify a height, they pick 6’-0”. And then there are some women who view 6’-0” as a status symbol, so that’s why they pick it, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 04:34 PM
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My thoughts/feelings exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 12:42 PM
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Just… wow. Definitely got to be trolling. Thanks for confirming.
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 08:40 PM
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I think this is a troll post due to how innaccurate it is. “Purest race” is some Hitler shit.
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 07:10 PM
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Closer to $150-200 actually, but yeah. Only way you’re paying $900 is for a full date night or a sleepover. Edit: Cheap ones are $500-$800 range per night. Like ones with messed up teeth, aged 40+, and have to use lots of filters just to get men to respond to their ads. The ones that look like models and are highly sought after are usually $5,000+ per night. So… I don’t think this is the brag it is supposed to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:38 PM
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Not a good start when the article’s main subject has to use a filter to convince you she’s a cougar.
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 02:05 AM
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https://youtu.be/x3lypVnJ0HM But sure, both sides have the same problem…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 08:21 PM
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They realized the reward was not worth the effort anymore, so they went and fucked off somewhere.
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 05:27 PM
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Good question. Some women just hate men, just like some men hate women. They blame the other gender for all their issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:41 PM
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There are certain phrases that some women use to try an nonchalantly dismiss a man’s opinion strictly because they disagree with it. “Touch grass,” “get therapy,” “hire an escort,” “incel logic,” etc. These are hollow buzzwords that have no real meaning, but are popular to say. Take it with a grain of salt, they are bitter and just enjoy men being miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:37 PM
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Some guys would be fine with an escort, some would be fine with one who gives the “GFE” (girlfriend experience), and some would probably be fine with just a handy from an Asian massage parlor. But most would rather be in a relationship for that intimacy that can’t be replicated with sex alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:31 PM
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You asked if I was decent looking. My answer most likely would be yes, but if you want to define what you think “decent” and “ugly” are, go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:40 PM
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You ok? You came right out of the gates swinging. And I guess it depends on how you define “decent” looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:34 PM
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Why would I gloss over a group that includes myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:27 PM
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Did you gloss over the word “most”? I know ugly guys with hot girls too, there are always exceptions to the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:22 PM
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Oh when we were young and terrible at communication! Haha yeah that makes sense. I guess I have similar stories to those.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:17 PM
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Yeah, the whole “you’re wrong because you are a man” rhetoric gets really old, really fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:50 PM
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I’m kinda red pill, but I don’t buy into the whole trad wife/submission bit. However, I would say I want a woman who is “agreeable” not submissive. I’ve been in relationships with women that are so stubborn, and insist their way is correct, but in reality, they were often wrong and I was stuck in a position where if I said “I told you so,” I’d have to sleep on the couch that night.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:43 PM
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I would love for you to elaborate on how you were “tricked into a date-like situation,” and why it was multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:34 PM
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I agree with this in way. Most couples are looks matched yes, because they figured out what their actual relative attractiveness is. People who are perpetually single are the ones who are delusional. Once they realize who their looks match is, then they couple up and are no longer single.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:53 PM
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Prostitution is illegal - yes, this is mostly true depending on your location. Prostitution is immoral - not completely true. Morality is relative, therefore cannot be objectively true or false, so therefore is an opinion. You need to respect me - also not true. Earning/giving respect is based on shared values, also relative.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 06:42 PM
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Finally someone said it. Average is different from median.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 09:42 PM
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Does this take into account all of the fake profiles as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:54 PM
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I have several close platonic girl friends. It’s not much different than having guy friends, but we bond over some stuff that the other guys aren’t into.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:02 PM
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Just look at all the hate/downvotes he’s getting in this sub. Proves your point.
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 12:35 PM
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Casual sex is much easier than a relationship. Why? The bar is lower for standards when it comes to sex than it is for a relationship. Per the popular delusion calculator, less than 10 percent of women meet the standards of being fit, single, and no kids in my age range. That cuts out 90 percent of my options before I even get to their personalities to see if we are compatible. But casual sex? No problem. I can overlook being fit, single, or having kids if it is just casual sex, so there are a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:59 PM
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This is always my first thought. It’s like boomers giving advice for getting a job: “Just walk down to the store, shake the managers hand and give them your resume!” Congrats that it worked for you a long time ago, but times have changed and your advice is dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:17 PM
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Look, you just answered your own post!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 11:19 PM
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Very similar to my own experiences, and I have to agree with all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:56 PM
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Oh good the troll took himself out.
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 08:13 PM
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Legalize prostitution. Make it so it is safe, regulated, and helps minimize human trafficking so there aren’t any legal/human rights issues with it. People who need an outlet for sex can now go purchase it. They don’t have to lash out at women either in person or online due to their sexual frustration, and lots of women who are already sex workers can now be open about it and run their own business.
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 07:59 PM
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….what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:39 PM
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The married ones do, I can tell you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:18 PM
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I agree that part is weird/icky. My controversial take is that as I get older, I’ve noticed that my thinking has become scarily similar to my parents. I’ll think to myself, “wow she is really attractive, but all those face piercings, heavy makeup, etc make her look so much worse…” BUT I don’t say anything. I just move along or swipe left, like I would say most people do. But here on Reddit? Voicing your opinion should be fine as long as you do it respectfully and without vitriol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:10 PM
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Obviously there are individual preferences, but there are still trends that appeal to the majority, and ignoring that doesn’t change it. Just like the common “women don’t like short men.” Sure this isn’t true for all women, but for a lot of women it is. So yeah, I’m all about women making their appearance however they want, even if I don’t find it personally attractive. But the caveat is they don’t get to complain when the men they are attracted to don’t find them attractive as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 06:17 PM
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Yep, your second paragraph is what jumped out at me too. She tries to say that men only pursue the hottest women and “aren’t super invested” in the average women or women who don’t take the most photogenic pictures (nice way to avoid saying unattractive women). That is when the bs alarm went off because that is not even close to true. Men on average swipe right 50% of the time. They swipe right on average, below average, and even overweight women all the time.
/r/AllPillDebate16/06/23 02:51 PM
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Good try, four hour old account.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:38 PM
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But there is still that one woman for four men. Women still use dating apps, and the ones that do are swiping right five percent of the time. So if you can’t get a sense of someone’s personality based on a profile, what makes the women swipe right or left? Is it more realistic that 95% of men have awful profiles, or that because of the gender disparity on apps, women are allowed to be way pickier when it comes to looks than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 12:38 AM
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Ah nvm, checked out your comment history. This makes sense now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 12:23 AM
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Glad you were able to come up with at least two adjectives that describe yourself in this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 12:17 AM
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Go check out the profile reviews. Lots of men posting there looking for help that struggle to get matches and dates, and most of them are completely average looking. It’s not the men, it’s the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 12:08 AM
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Okay, a couple of comments: 1) Ignoring your last paragraph because it missed the point entirely. If you’re messaging with a woman, you already know she’s at least somewhat attracted to you. Question is about being attractive enough to get matches. 2) You literally start off listing your height. I thought personality was more important over looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 11:04 PM
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So if online dating is a meat market focusing on looks, and women are attracted to personalities instead of looks (according to OP), then why would a woman be using online dating at all? To me, it’s like browsing Amazon but none of the prices are listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 10:21 PM
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20 matches a week is a lot, so going back to my question that you glossed over: what can men do on dating profiles to seem more attractive so that 95% of women aren’t immediately dismissing them as a dating prospect? Would you be open to posting your profile as an example of how men should be presenting themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 10:13 PM
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Hmm… it’s almost like something drastic happened to the majority of the world in 2020-2021… if only I could remember…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 09:42 PM
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So 95% of men aren’t interesting personality-wise to women? And if that’s the case, what can men do to display their personality in a profile in order to be more attractive to women? Also, if looks aren’t important, surely the below average looking men would do just as well as the most attractive men, given the same personality, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 09:37 PM
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So is that why women on average only swipe right 5% on dating apps while men on average swipe right (expectedly) 50%?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 09:05 PM
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Oooh I think I know this guy! Don’t forget he gets like 10 matches a day on dating apps and he goes on 3-4 dates per week.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 07:24 PM
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Agreed, this part is a separate issue. The idea that a man pays for a date because he asks the woman out on a date is a old school mentality from when single women weren’t even allowed to have their own bank accounts. Times have changed, and if you want an egalitarian relationship, both parties should expect to go 50/50 when it comes to finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 10:43 PM
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Agree with this post. It is why I’ve got one foot already in the MGTOW lifestyle. Meaning, I am living for myself as a single man and it is great. If the right woman comes along, and can add value to my life, that would be great, but if not, I know that I will still be fine. But then again, I do not want kids, so that makes me an outlier compared to most.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:35 PM
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I’ve done it multiple times. Had no issues at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 08:02 PM
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But… how did we come up with those numbers? And why can temperature be measured in three different units? Someone had to assign values at some point and then we had to agree on those values. But i digress. In short, those women are not perfect 10s, especially the last one. Most people are average, and a few of those women are above average (maybe less if you wiped all the makeup off) but no one is a perfect 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 06:50 PM
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Those are pretty words, but not how the world works. People have decided that using numerical values is the best way to compare and contrast different things with similar properties. Why have a Richter scale? Let’s just say all earthquakes are bad. No need to compare. Why have temperature? Let’s just say it’s either hot or cold out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 06:34 PM
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I don’t think you understand how numerical scale systems work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 05:53 PM
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They rated themselves all perfect 10s. You honestly believe they are all perfect 10s?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 05:43 PM
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How many clips like this do we need to see? https://youtube.com/shorts/-tpSk6ESeOQ?feature=share Women rate themselves way higher than they actually are all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 04:29 PM
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OK here you go: As a man in the “manosphere,” I denounce abuse and coercive control! Did that solve all your problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 10:45 PM
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I could see that, but also, not exactly. Women with the same BMI could carry their fat differently - some in more “attractive” features (boobs and butts) versus “less attractive” areas (stomachs).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 09:49 PM
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Height is numerical/quantitative. Weight is numerical/quantitative. Fat is a qualitative description we give to someone that visually addresses the balance between height and weight. There is no magic cutoff number that means a person is fat or not, because it’s all relative to the observer. BMI does it’s best to quantify obesity, but it’s not a perfect measurement tool, since it goes off pure numbers instead of visual appraisal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 02:09 PM
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Absolutely. Women can do personal attacks, no mod. Man does a personal attack, mod jumps in right away. The bias is strong with them. Just look at the mod names ffs.
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 01:55 PM
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I’m 35. And I would say 18-30 are the most physically attractive women. I wouldn’t date that low, however, closer to 25-35 unless they were immensely mature/intelligent for someone under 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:57 PM
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Agreed. According to this, the average man would be getting swiped right on about 20% of the time. But now it is far less, with the majority of men sitting at 10% or lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 09:30 PM
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A - 5 B - 4 C - 3
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 01:25 PM
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This is so objectively false, here are a couple examples off the top of my head: Many black women lighten their skin as part of their makeup routine. Men and women have been “buttering” their hair to make it straight for 50+ years.
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 10:21 PM
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I should add to this what I mean: Think about the most popular black celebrities in America, particularly the women. Are they light-skinned black or dark-skinned black? Do they have straight hair or natural hair? Do they have narrow noses or wider ones? The standard of beauty by default is white Americans, and I would say that’s because of the Hollywood/pop culture that America has pushed out over the last few decades. Not saying this is “right,” but just an observation.
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 09:50 PM
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Did you watch the video? It’s about non-white cultures conforming to what white people find attractive.
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 08:56 PM
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Not only would I say this is true, but it’s not only limited to East Asian people. African American women have been dealing with this for decades in America.
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 08:10 PM
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I want to press you a bit on this because it matches my experiences as well. Which “certain” cultures are you referring to and why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 06:59 PM
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I mean, some OF content creators are already millionaires thanks to millions of simps out there, yet the industry is still thriving, so I’d guess the same would happen with the robots. Although with OF content, the creators get the majority of income, with a small percentage going to the platform. Whoever makes the robots will still get the majority of the income; selling your likeness only nets a smaller percentage of profits. So although I agree, “domination” is bit of a stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 04:54 PM
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I agree with this, because it already is a thing. Female pornstars already partner with male sex toy distributors to make devices to replicate their vaginas. I don’t doubt after the generic sex robotics are rolled out, we start seeing women selling their likeness in both looks and personality (voice for AI).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 04:30 PM
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What do you mean by “status”? Can you elaborate? To me this is a vague term that can be interpreted differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 04:21 PM
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Definitely! People in that sub are so gullible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:23 PM
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Yep, happens all the time in that sub. You nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 09:41 PM
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I can attest to it. I’m alone, but not lonely. I think I’d be fine if I continue life alone, not many people could do it, but I am still open to finding someone, provided they are right for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:46 PM
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Agreed, my point exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 06:49 PM
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Point to an example. And it better not be TikTok.
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 06:38 PM
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Just go over to r/AITA, they talk about this all the time. The general consensus is that the man should pay more since the woman has more “emotional labor” in a relationship. Unless the woman out earns the husband, then it should be 50/50. Equality or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 06:04 PM
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I don’t criticize women for that, I’m not a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:35 PM
1

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:16 PM
2

Maybe it’s just me, but I find it difficult to take anyone seriously who uses “u” instead of “you” while trying to communicate their opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:36 PM
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Yep, I can agree with this. As a man in my 30s, I wasn’t looking for a relationship when I was younger, but now I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 07:19 PM
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Perfectly said, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 02:12 PM
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I agree. America and other western nations tend to be more progressive than other countries, at least when it comes to dating, sex, and marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 09:55 PM
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Go over to r/bumble and check out peoples swipe stats. I’ll make it easy for you. Check my post history. 5% of women swipe right on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:48 PM
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I guess you could also ask why some men make jokes/threats about rape so casually too. Some women and some men lack empathy, but the majority do not.
/r/MensRights18/04/23 05:14 PM
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Women rate each other based on how they look at their very best - in photos with makeup, good lighting, and filters. Men rate women how they look in real life - without all the temporary/artificial enhancements.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 09:28 PM
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“Naturally those ideas led him to radical right wing positions…” You lost me there. Correlation is not causation. I vote extremely left yet I take the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:15 PM
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You said it before me, but nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 06:20 PM
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Agreed. No notes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 06:12 PM
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Agreed. These photos look like they were taken from 2008 MySpace and Facebook.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 06:04 PM
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Well, hypothetically, if this were true, the last issue would be women worrying about men. The economy would literally be in shambles if 80% of men spent all their discretionary income on women/OF.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 10:32 PM
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“Now let’s assume that… the top 20% of women are absorbing the bottom 80% of mens discretionary income.” Bruh, what? That is a strange and grossly inaccurate assumption. Can any men here honestly verify this statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 08:52 PM
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Yes we can. Stop putting up with the bullshit if it’s not worth it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:56 PM
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I’m a egalitarian man, so I don’t get the argument at all. I’m looking for an equal partner in a relationship. I don’t really care what her profession is, as long as she can support herself and her career doesn’t negatively affect our relationship too much. But, I also acknowledge that statistically, I will most likely be the “breadwinner” no matter what due to my own income, so maybe that is why the idea does not bother me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:28 PM
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Bachelor for life. I don’t want kids, so this is an easy choice for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 01:26 PM
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I don’t think ANYONE wants to be harassed, regardless of age or gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:19 PM
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41% of men vs 35% of women. Linked stats in my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:41 PM
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Agreed. I made a comment with stats that disprove OP’s generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:09 PM
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If there ever was a generalization about men, it’s this post right here. OP, I’m a man who fully supports pro-choice. I also think paper abortion (as noted elsewhere) should be an option as well. But you really make it hard to be on your side. Here are the stats: https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/ 63% of women and 58% of men believe it should be legal in all/most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:08 PM
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Please don’t generalize. We had a lot of men out last summer protesting, standing side by side with women. And it worked, well, at least in here in Kansas.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:33 PM
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That’s true, there are some extremists there. I guess the same could be said about any community. Not PPD though, of course…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:50 PM
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I have the opposite experience. If I say I don’t want kids while at the office with coworkers, I get weird looks and questions. But if I say it online? No one cares, but there are people who support me and feel the same way. See r/childfree for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:45 PM
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Seconded this. I live in the Midwest, and it is especially brutal here. If you don’t have/want kids, people think there is something wrong with you. So I usually just keep it to myself, with the exception of dating - it’s a major dealbreaker for others and myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:39 PM
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“No one wants to work anymore” has the same energy as “there are no quality men left.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:06 PM
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Republicans can’t shame a robot as well as they try to shame women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 07:52 PM
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You’re pushing the goal posts. It doesn’t have to eliminate all dudes from going out, just enough for society to notice. Technology has already done this. People meet on dating apps. Men are less social now then they were before the internet. Also, name a dude who jerks off or uses a sex toy and says “oh yeah, not enough, time to go out and get the real thing!” Because that does not happen. They get post nut clarity, clean up, and suddenly they are not thinking about sex anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 07:36 PM
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Do you think those guys ever masturbate? Obviously that’s not as good as having sex, but it’s still acceptable at the time for them. A robot/VR system is just that… but a lot better. Not only that, but technology advances quickly. You have no idea what AI and robots will be able to do in 10-15 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 07:06 PM
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The men and women who view each other solely as a means of getting off will go off and do their thing. Dating apps would be better. All the horny guys looking for just sex and can afford the robot won’t be nearly as thirsty on the apps. Since it is a less sexually aggressive environment, women will start coming back and we would hit a new equilibrium of male-female users.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 07:01 PM
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Because it’s technically still illegal in most places? Legalize it and watch them flock just like cannabis.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 06:57 PM
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A woman who is really good with her makeup shows that she puts a lot of stock into her appearance, and that’s what she values. To me, it is shallow, an indicator of high maintenance, and not what I want in a woman for a long term relationship. I prefer women who are comfortable in their own skin without any enhancers, and value more important things like health and intelligence. I won’t deny that it makes some women look amazing, and I’ll be sexually attracted to them, but that’s it. I consider …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 09:04 PM
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This is exactly it. When I see a woman with a full face of makeup, my first thought is “what does she look like underneath all of that?” That’s why as I have gotten older I’m more drawn to women with minimal/no makeup on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 08:50 PM
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Sounds perfect to me, but that is because I do not want kids. That alone is a major dealbreaker for people on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 07:10 PM
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I would agree that they are all overweight, some leaning towards obese. They also all benefit from being models, with good makeup, lighting, etc. That being said, no, I would not date any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 04:49 PM
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This kind of mindset is what steers people to MGTOW, and I do not mean it in a bad way. A lot of people out there have decided that for them, dating/relationships are not worth the effort and so they focus on intrinsic ways to make themselves happy, instead of relying on a partner. For me, I’ve got a dog for companionship, good friends for socializing, and I have outlets for sexual releases when the mood hits. If I find a woman that adds value to my life, great! But if not, then I am still happy…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 10:10 PM
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Before I have sex with a woman, we have usually had some sort of talk about sex first to make sure we are comfortable/compatible with each other. Topics include number of previous partners, any STIs, last time tested, birth control preferences, favorite acts/positions, etc. If the other person isn’t mature enough to have this conversation, they aren’t worth my time. I know it’s a bit odd from the norm, but it’s kept me child- and STI-free to this day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 05:23 PM
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You’re not an outlier. I’m 35 and I date women that are 25-30 because we seem to be in the same stages of life, so we connect well. Women mature and settle down earlier than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 10:20 PM
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Most* men in here. I can’t speak for others, but I definitely had a party / promiscuous phase in my 20s, but have calmed down a lot since I hit 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:02 PM
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I put in any race, any income, and any height. Ages 25-35, not overweight/obese, not married, no kids. Only 7% of women can meet those standards? Yikes. I think this says more about women’s delusions than men. Edit: just tried the other calculator for women. Using the same criteria as above, 35% of men meet those standards compared to only 7% of women. Yeah… this is pretty one sided. Unless these “calculators” are full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 04:22 PM
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Is that first example not just someone using the gender swap filter?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 04:34 PM
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So then why did you suggest they date each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:48 PM
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The problem is that fat women think they are too good for fat men here in America, due to (I assume) the gender imbalance of dating apps that has given them a false sense of desirability due to scarcity. Why are you so against men going to where they are wanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 07:54 PM
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That’s actually kind of true. Historically speaking, if you were pale and overweight, you were seen to be wealthy and could afford a life of leisure. People with tans and darker skins were assumed to be people who had to work outdoors, and therefore poorer and less desirable. Western culture flipped this in recent decades, where white people getting tans are seen as those who have the privilege to travel and take time for leisure, compared to the pale laborers in offices and factories.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 07:47 PM
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I get it. I was very fortunate to be a conventionally attractive guy and used it to my advantage. I have very few regrets, and a lot of fun stories. It was normal to me and my group of friends at the time, but being on subs like this for awhile now, I realized my experiences are not typical for the average Reddit user.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 08:57 PM
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I was this guy when I was in college and my early 20s. Definitely not anymore… looking back I don’t know how I had the energy/mental capacity to juggle it all, but I somehow did.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 07:21 PM
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Women rate their attractiveness based on how they look with their hair and makeup done. Men will judge whether they would sleep with a woman based on this look, but will judge whether they commit to women based on how she looks without the temporary appearance enhancements.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 08:48 PM
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As someone who has been a victim of an attempt of baby trapping - yes, this is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 03:48 PM
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I did not say anything about that. It’s much more simple. American women do not find me nearly as attractive as non-American women, and I have no racial preferences. Why would I not pursue women that are attracted to me instead of the ones who think they are too “good” for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 06:39 PM
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Way more bots in the US matches. The ones overseas actually participated in conversations that led to meeting up. It helps if you know the local language too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:48 PM
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It’s not even that complicated. When I travel in the US to another city, I can open up a dating app and within 24 hours I will usually have 10-15 likes in my queue, and they are usually likes that I won’t like back. However, when I travel to another country (Asian and Latin American countries in particular), I will get flooded with 40-50 likes in the same time period, and a good majority of them are incredibly attractive. You can’t just hand wave away these things when the difference is night an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:04 PM
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Wouldn’t say red-pilled, but as 35m, I date women in the 25-35 range, but also have occasional hookups in the 22-45 range.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 11:04 PM
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As a man, this has not been my experience at all. Perhaps for some of the women I have been with, but only a small minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:44 PM
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As a man with a high n-count, I have never been asked by a woman what my n-count was unless she was a virgin, but if she is a virgin she is not my type anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 07:20 PM
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“New Normal” is a bit of stretch, but this is a pretty common story that I have seen too often on Reddit and in real life. Makes me extremely hesitant to approach marriage in a legal manner while antiquated alimony laws are still a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 07:54 PM
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This is a win for everyone. Men who just want sex? They will get these and take themselves out of the dating pool. Without all those guys on dating apps, the ratio of men to women will start to balance out. Because of supply/demand of online dating, women won’t be able to be as picky as before, but also won’t have to deal with nearly as many aggressive sexual advances. The men who are looking for a relationship won’t have to be as desperate as the numbers balance out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 04:04 PM
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Agreed. Pretty normal for online dating. Woman is about a 5 (average), but thinks she is a 8 or 9. Because she posts risqué photos, men who are a 1-9 will send sexual messages that feed her ego because she looks easy. She thinks that because 9/10 man will have a ONS with her, she must be 9/10 relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:46 PM
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Can you clone yourself or something? We don’t see many of you these days, hence the option between the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:05 PM
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Nailed it. Being single and not desperate at 35 is amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:44 PM
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Could have had? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:41 PM
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Yep, we are. Sorry to disappoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:39 PM
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From my own experiences, this makes so much sense. I have been wondering why average white women have no interest in me, but hot non-white women are obsessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 10:09 PM
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Those men that claim women don’t like them can’t even get into a relationship. You’re suggesting the ones that are attractive/desired enough to be in a relationship should have this celibate dynamic. Those men absolutely have a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 02:15 PM
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If you think it will work for you, go for it. I don’t think many men would go along with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 06:26 AM
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I guess I kind of agree? I’m a man with a high n-count and I honestly do not care about a woman’s n-count, just as long as she does not have any STI’s or other sexual health issues (same as myself). The only men I have come across that care about n-counts are on Reddit, and not in my social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 08:31 PM
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So a man gains self respect by sleeping around and a woman loses self respect by sleeping around? Oh boy, here we go.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 04:25 PM
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Straight 35m here. I think 0-5 is low, 6-20 is medium, and 20+ is “high.” Since my n-count is high (higher than most of what I have seen posted so far), I really do not care what my partner’s n-count is, just that she is healthy and no STI’s like myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:58 PM
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You know we can see her post/comment history, right? “I….have not been approached or asked out by a man in 8 months.” She commented about a man giving her his phone number at a coffee shop 43 days ago. She said she had sex with a male friend 32 days ago. She posted in amiugly 51 days ago with self confidence issues as well. Something is not adding up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:02 PM
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Neither is shutting in a jar of peanut butter, yet that was your default analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:30 AM
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If they were right, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 03:24 PM
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As a 35m, my age range on dating apps is 25-35. So no, most of us don’t filter you out. It’s usually around our age (even a bit higher for some) and younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:38 PM
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Sometimes it’s nice to read some rampant sexism from the other side. Checks post history…. Oh this makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 04:04 PM
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“Good luck on your journey. I’m out.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 02:11 PM
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Yes. Since your making a claim/assumption based on your (limited) experience, what is your sample size? The people you are arguing with here have much larger sample sizes than you (I assume with 99% confidence) and know a lot more about sex than you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 08:07 PM
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“Well I signed up for their rewards program without ever tasting their food, guess I’ll have to eat this shitty food for the rest of my life…”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 08:00 PM
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Exactly what I was thinking. You’re sampling something to see if you want to commit to it. Better examples are like, tasting wedding cakes to see which you want for a wedding, or sampling a beer at a brewery before getting a 22oz pour.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:01 PM
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Username checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 11:19 PM
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I’m clearly so emotional. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 08:27 PM
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Yep I agree. I won’t even commit to a woman until I know we have sexual chemistry. I know for a lot of women it is the exact opposite, but that just means they are not my type nor am I theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 08:00 PM
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Ok. Thanks for gatekeeping what makes people happy and having a say in how they live their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:54 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:49 PM
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Let me just chime in and say…. As a 6-6-6 man, you don’t just magically get women. Sure it may be a bit easier in some aspects, but it’s not some magic milestone. We still have lots of issues with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:41 PM
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I agree with you all the way. Start with a bigger pool and narrow it down until you find the commitment. I’m mostly referring to the type of of guy OP is referring to in the first paragraph - where the only intent of the man dating is to get sex within 1-2 dates. That kind of guy is looking for sex, not a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:11 PM
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So was I. But when I was in school we had to go out to parties to meet girls because our engineering classes/dorms were nearly all men. Whenever I told the other guys I knew about a party to go to, there was never a guy that said “sucks for you guys, I can’t wait to stay in and watch Grey’s Anatomy with my girl.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:08 PM
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And how do you get into a “happy” relationship? You date around until you find the right person. Of course it’s easier to have sex, romance, and love when you’re in a relationship, but everyone has a different method of getting there (once again, IF that’s what they want). By the way, your last paragraph is way off from my experiences. The guys with girlfriends were always jealous of the single guys going out and partying with single girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:55 PM
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Yes it does. You’re basically saying they are not happy and in order to be happy they need to focus on monogamy. If that is not their goal, what is the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:30 PM
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The men who date multiple women at once and the men who are looking for a serious commitment with one woman are not the same men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:24 PM
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Worth it for sure. Had lots of fun and sensual experiences that make my friends jealous, and they love hearing the stories (both girls and guys, mind you) since they can be pretty wild. Not to mention that I never got a single STI or pregnancy scare. Edit: Male, N= really high, apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:28 PM
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“Peak SMV”?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:26 PM
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1) I don’t “expect” anything. I am not entitled to have a woman. 2) No. You forget that a relationship is a two-way street. In this hypothetical, the top 5% woman CHOSE me, meaning she wants to be with me. Maybe from your perspective she settled, but maybe from her perspective I settled for her. Everyone has different criteria/preferences on what they find attractive in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:57 PM
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You’re making a big assumption that the purpose of dating is to make families. Take the desire to have kids off the table so that there is no biological clock argument, and then re-evaluate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:57 AM
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It’s an important part that he left out. Without it he just comes across as an angry guy who gets rejected by both women in their 20s and by women in their 30s/40s that he thinks he is too good for.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:01 PM
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However, to OP’s credit, there is a large subset of women (and men) that have ridiculously high standards that they themselves cannot meet, but ALSO complain that “there are no good guys left.” Those are the ones that irk me. That’s just self sabotage masquerading as self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:53 PM
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Agree with this 100 percent. Unfortunately, too many people seem to tie their happiness to their their relationship status.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:48 PM
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I’m a man in my mid 30s. I’m extremely picky now, although I wasn’t in my 20s. I can afford to be picky because I’m happy being single and I’m not desperate enough/willing to settle. My criteria for a partner filters out about 95% of the dating pool around me. Am I in the top 5% of men? Hell no. But I’d rather be single and happy than taken and unhappy. Women can do the exact same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:56 PM
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Hey, look, you just guessed their opening line!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:00 PM
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Nah, you know what is a more fun experiment? When summer comes around, add something to your profile that vaguely suggests you have a boat or have access to a boat. I did it this last year and my likes coming in literally quadrupled.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:23 PM
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Well that makes sense in your case and your experiences, but it does not match mine. I’m not a guarded person and my energy on first dates is great, or at least good enough where the other person wants a second date. The issue is that 9/10 times I do not want a second date because I have gotten to be so comfortable and happy being by myself, that I see dating as a boring chore, and not a fun way to get to know someone like dating is supposed to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 08:30 PM
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Eh, I kind of agree with you. Part of it is definitely working on my availability, but also part of it is just dating some duds. It’s more of a case where I’ve had a first date, and when thinking about a second date, it feels more like a chore than something I am looking forward to. If this happened 100 percent of the time, I would agree with you, but there are occasions where I do look forward to meeting up again because they were a fun time and I enjoyed their presence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 07:32 PM
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I get that completely! Got my girl from a rescue when she was a puppy. They weren’t sure about the dad, so they said she was “part yellow lab” based on her looks, and that she should get to be about 35-40 lbs full grown. Well, that didn’t happen, so now I am a grown man with a small dog. And I have no regrets!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:34 PM
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You know, that’s a fair question! She’s under 20lbs, and a complete mutt. Mostly chihuahua, terrier, and corgi mix. She has a slightly lopsided derpy underbite, but still a great smile.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:25 PM
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Pros: I’m aware I look good on paper; I follow the 6-6-6 rule. I have my own place (that is kept clean), a cute little dog, I’m handy, and I actually travel and enjoy it. I’m also socially liberal (I attend BLM and Women’s Rights marches), enjoy listening more than talking, and have been told my dry sense of humor is hilarious. Cons: I just do not have the emotional energy required for a healthy relationship. Most evenings I would rather be alone with my dog than on a date with someone. I’m hopi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:54 PM
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Uh, I’m lost. I’m literally the man you described in the first paragraph. I have my shit together, and I expect my partner to have hers too. I thought this was pretty normal. Am I in the wrong or something? Or is it just a lot less common than I assumed?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 05:06 PM
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