TheRedArchive

~ archived since 2018 ~

accountinghelpadviso Archive

View 0 posts and 371 comments by accountinghelpadviso on TheRedPill subreddit and various other subreddits related to The Red Pill community.
Search in:
In subreddits:
More
Filter by year/month:
Upvotes Title Category Author Subreddit Date (UTC)
Upvotes Comment on Subreddit Date (UTC)
–

True the virginity thing is something I have not seen irl. If anything most guys would heavily prefer NOT to date a virgin. The body count stuff from irl guys is them not wanting a girl who has slept with the whole basketball team in high school or a whole frat house in college. It’s less focused on a specific number or being a virgin, and more about attitude towards sex and perception. Guys don’t really want to date a known slut would be the most accurate way to describe it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:04 PM
–

Slut shaming among men and women, worry from men about being divorce raped and resistance to marriage, General understanding that women like looks, muscles, money to the expense of personality, though many will agree that game and rizz is super important
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:50 PM
–

It’s funny that red pill takes are actually really common irl, people just don’t really call themselves red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:04 PM
–

yes, I am the same way, i feel like an average women does on dating apps on linkedin. Wish they could be switched :(
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 06:44 PM
–

Do you believe they’re just being more honest than we are? I don't believe you are lying, but i think there is a concerted effort among the more blue pilled people to heavily downplay these sorts of arguments we are making concerning modern dating. For example, my primary friend group is composed of men who are more seriously minded in regards to relationships, either people looking for one or already in one. Casual sex is less favored versus finding an LTR. If I were to hear comments online fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 06:38 PM
–

But “I’ll only date a man who makes 6 figures” is not something I have ever personally heard or seen, even online (though I’m sure I could find it easily online if I looked!). Well you don't date women, so that kinda makes sense. And the people you talk to may not be willing to outwardly say it to you, because it does come off as pretty shallow if you say it. If you date women, you will come across people with that requirement or a women that doesn't ostensibly have the requirement, but "happens…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 06:10 PM
–

Ah I see so you believe that women seek partners for material gain. I didn't say that, I said such an arbitrary cutoff like $100k a year salary leads to me believe the idea of dating for that person trends more towards the conditional/transactional rather than the true romantic connection. There's a big difference between I want financial stability, which is fair, and I want $100k. Financial stability encompasses much more like spending habits, debt level, future earnings, savings, possible inhe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 05:57 PM
–

If my boyfriend cheated on me or abused me, which he would never do, I imagine I’d fall out of love with him. Sure, that is fair, but the conditional and transactional nature of romance has raised to the point where the idea of romantic love doesn't really feel like a real thing to me, especially in a heavily materialistic society like the USA. When you have standards like 6 ft+ and only $100k a year from women, you start to wonder about the idea of romantic love. Is it truly impossible for this…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 05:30 PM
–

Nah incels aren’t particularly right leaning if you dig into the data
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 05:09 PM
–

I barely even believe in the idea of romantic love (from men and women). I don’t think people are necessarily lying, I think it’s really all more transactional and “what can you do for me” than true romantic love
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 05:05 PM
–

One common argument against all this red pill stuff is people just say “well there’s about as many women and men and most people end up in relationships so all of this male dating anger is overblown.” What people don’t understand is the pairing up in LTR among men and women is decreasing in the modern age, so a lot of these single women with ridiculous standards are just gonna stay single or maybe drop them as they age. You can find these sad women all over places like twox, FDS, LSA, vindicta. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 08:05 PM
–

Nah the importance of looks is like a sliding scale, the better you look the less any of that other shit matters. If you’re below average you need insane competence, game, charisma to do well. It’s not like if you pass a certain threshold then suddenly looks don’t matter and everything else does.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 07:52 PM
–

Modern dating is honestly GG for dudes if you didn’t meet a girl in school or don’t have a social group with many single attractive and looking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 07:05 PM
–

The problem is every tall guy in the world is looking for exactly what you just described
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:03 PM
–

I keep seeing it repeated they women are happier single, but i would love to see the date they shows that. Everything I have read points to married people being happier
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:01 PM
–

This is just the classic women overrating other women. Women’s bias towards other women constantly shows up all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 07:28 AM
–

Everything is transactional anyway so it doesn’t really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 12:15 AM
–

To me, the wall is ultimately about dating opportunities. It's just commonly thought as of less attractive, less young, as it is usually used for women. But I don't see it can't just be that a man's opportunities drastically drop off after college, so he hits the wall, no matter if he is more attractive or not (exceptions exist, as they do for women). Most of the solid relationships I see (with men dating on their level or even above) were formed in high school, college, or from social circles t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 12:04 AM
–

That sounds like the wall to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 11:57 PM
–

Yes, that is true. Men hit the wall after college.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 11:48 PM
–

You're a woman. You could start reciting the lyrics to a children's lullaby, and it wouldn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 11:32 PM
–

The goal is to focus on career and staying in shape in my 20's to be a high-tier beta bux in my 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 11:31 PM
6

Of course, pressure comes from men for women to look pretty, just as the opposite is the case with pressure from women for men. And you said it yourself you like fit guys, the vast majority of men in gyms are not very big, they are mostly fit to average, some even fat and some very muscled. So even you, who says you don’t like overly muscled guys is indirectly giving pressure to men to be in the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 11:40 PM
6

No gym expectations are primarily about attracting women. The pressure is from women. It’s not like women say specifically “go to the gym.” But men have eyes and see women going after fitter guys and see they attract more and better women while more fit. So guys try to get what women go after, which is a fitter body, meaning the pressure really is from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 11:27 PM
9

Men do care about hair and makeup, I didn’t say they don’t, I’m just saying there are parts of it they don’t like. Men like natural youth and beauty, men do not like excessive makeup that looks fake, they like makeup that is understated, evens skin tone, makes a girl look younger but not too unnatural Hair color is pretty irrelevant for men. And men have beauty standards as well. Have you been to a gym? It is vast majority men, and they are trying to adhere to the beauty standards for men to loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 11:13 PM
12

Most of that shit you mentioned actually doesn’t matter for men and women even admit they do it for themselves and other women. Men don’t care about nails, colored hair and braids, too much makeup(we normally like a smaller amount that gives a more natural look) We also don’t give a shit about excess style. If you just wear form fitting clothing it won’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 11:03 PM
–

It is not called body count but it is absolutely talked about a lot in more normal circles. Also you won’t hear people hyperfocus on the specific number of partners You’ll hear women be called sluts, easy all the time. You’ll hear people be like “oh she fucked the whole basketball team, she’s not easy” Female promiscuity has pretty much always been deemed negative by society
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:58 PM
–

Excellent response. Damn, some of the women here don’t even try lol, it’s like they’re so used to getting validated with their opinions elsewhere that they can’t take any pushback, quite sad honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:58 PM
–

Twox or a ton of other random women subreddits has plenty of threads they talk about what male redditors say and use that as evidence. Your point absolutely goes both ways you’re just biased in your view. And you realize that stuff you see from tik tok, Reddit, and Twitter is all real people. Their opinions matter and can form how a person thinks about the population. You shouldn’t just use them but they can be a good supplement to real life people. All you’re doing is illustrating your blinding…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:54 PM
–

Wait so you are assuming a more charitable interpretation of the women than men here? And you are a woman. Of course lol… This is what people mean when they say women have a huge in group bias towards each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:40 PM
–

I’ve actually noticed this as well. Honestly she looks like a bot with the way she posts
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:57 PM
–

One guy I see said it is like bare minimum, and I do think many of the things you said are bare minimum. I mean should anyone, man or women, be expected to be in a relationship with someone they are not attracted to, is not loyal, or is not respectful to them? Some of the ones below I could go without though Also, bare minimum for women includes much more than what you are saying. Finances are much more important for men than women, women also have heavy preferences on masculine traits like asse…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:05 PM
–

Wait just one tweet from a dude means his love life is really good? People never lie about their love lives especially men on the internet. Lol I don’t get what this shows
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 04:47 PM
–

Criticized for having excessive standards and placing huge amounts of demands upon men and then complaining about their single lives/men (where have all the good men gone, no man will commit to me, men are all bad these days) If they are up front that their standards are high and don’t complain I honestly don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 04:30 PM
–

This doesn’t negate his point. Women can be attracted to as few men as they want, but then they are not immune to criticism that they have excessively high standards and demand much more from men then they have themselves. Women are allowed to have their preferences and they are allowed to be criticized.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 04:27 PM
–

Ok so 2 just want to fuck, and the other two maybe not,
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 07:05 PM
–

For sexual or an actual date?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 07:02 PM
–

Lol that is not true my man. Didn’t you just have casual sec the first time off bumble a couple weeks ago? I feel like you’re not too experienced in it. A girl won’t just be willing to LTR if she sleeps with you once. She might just be horny that day or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:59 PM
–

I’ve tried that and it doesn’t work. Also I want a long term relationship not casual sex. So starting off sexual isn’t great for LTR vibes. Is it possible I could be missing out on casual sex by spamming rizzy sexual lines on every match I have, sure maybe? But most girls will think you’re a fuckboy,
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:57 PM
–

You’re an exceptional man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:46 PM
–

Another big lie from women about OLD, Women: more of your matches are real, most of mine are just dudes randomly swiping on everyone sorta cute they see. Bullshit most of my matches don’t even respond or just fizzle after a few messages
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:45 PM
–

That’s definitely false.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:35 AM
–

So would you a 5 foot 4 guy be as likely to do as well in dating as a 6 foot 4 guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:41 AM
–

Well I’m dating seriously for an LTR, so what makes a gurl into a guy for an LTR? Are height, income, fitness unrelated at all to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:30 AM
–

Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:04 AM
–

Male workplace deaths. Female representation in STEM fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:59 PM
–

My game is bad they could be the issue guess, style is not questionable but not amazing. It’s pretty basic and clean cut, well groomed but nothing really fancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:58 PM
–

You are correct that no one cares about men, including men. There is a strong in group bias among women that does not exist for men. Women heavily care about each other but not men. Men care about women, but not men. Ergo, no one gives a shit about men. People only give a shit about me when that man can provide value to others. This is like very basic stuff…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:54 PM
–

I am above average in the traits I mentioned. Do you believe height, income, body fat %, and muscle mass are important aspects of male desirability? Those are the directly measurable without getting into more subjective stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:37 PM
–

No thanks Myron.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:35 PM
–

But in real life my friends and family are aware of the people I’ve attempted to date and not one single person has ever stated I am trying to punch above my weight. In fact, I’ve gotten the opposite that I am attempting to punch down and am trying to settle for too little. The women I’m dating are just not that above average, they don’t look like those filtered Instagram models, and no one that has seen them IRL has ever said to face that they are out my league but the standards from them are j…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:34 PM
–

So are you saying that all that matters is facial attractiveness then? Income, height, fitness, desire for a relationship, don’t matter all that matters is a clear top 10% face? Are you blackpilled?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:18 PM
–

I am not sure if my face is good looking, that’s not for me to decide or know. Women as a whole will decide that. I mean I don’t have a face like Brad Pitt where it is obvious but I also don’t have a super ugly face. I consider like 80% of male faces to be in that average range where it’s tough for me to really know if they are good looking. Some girls have commented to me that they find my face handsome or that I could model, but I am not sure if they are gassing me up, because I haven’t really…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:14 PM
–

Well I did not say my face was good looking, I just said not ugly. Which I think is true. But it is hard for me to say what my face is because there is no good scale for it as it is a bit more in the subjective category. I would put my face at least in the average range. Can’t really say with certainty anything else. Everything else is not embellished. They are things I know to be true just based on measurable characteristics like height, income, body fat, muscle mass, and my own personal desire…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:08 PM
–

What part doesn’t make sense to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 10:55 PM
–

I don’t want to lead girls on like that. I consider that pretty unethical tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 10:36 PM
–

I think the biggest lie here told is the idea that the single men who can’t find anything are going exclusively for hot Instagram baddies and mad they can’t find them. I don’t even go after any of those people, I go for slightly above average girls, especially in the body. I am a a fan of fitter girls. But I am tall, in good shape, not ugly facially, great job, super high income for my age and looking for a relationship, I’d definitely consider myself above average, and even the slightly above a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 10:34 PM
6

Peope here need to understand the difference between loving and caring for someone and empathizing with someone. They are very different. For example, my mother loves and cares for me and I know she always will. However, in the topic of dating, she heavily struggles to empathize with me. She’s a female baby boomer who grew up in a different time for romance, and struggles to understand how it can be so much different today. My mother loves and cares for me, but does not empathize with me. Is she…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:53 PM
3

Women are capable of loving and caring for men, but the vast majority heavily struggle with empathizing with men. The key part of empathy is being able to put oneself in the others shoes and be able to share those feelings without actually having them. Women in general are absolute terrible at empathizing with dating struggles for men because most are coming from a place that is shaped by their experiences, which are very different. Most can never turn off the woman’s experience and it fully is …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:43 PM
1

Well we have problems then because most studies completed in the realm of sex, relationships will be self reported. But doing a self reported survey of PPD is the best way to get a solid understanding of the ages of men and women here. There may be some lying, but likely to not mess with the results too much. At the very least it is a much better way to do it than just base it off your own guess as to a man’s age especially because I have seen many of your posts and you have a clear bias against…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:53 PM
2

But it that isn’t sufficient evidence for your point. On this subreddit, there are hundreds of male posters, commenters, voters, which all contribute to the PPD ecosystem. In order to sufficiently show your point I’d need something like a survey of demographics (which many subreddits do and I’d think PPD would be the type to want something like that). Does PPD have something like that? You can’t just focus on a few power users you personally interact with to show your point, as it is influenced …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:39 PM
1

That seems counter to my experience here and also just the general demographics of the internet and Internet forums. These places tend to skew heavily towards younger men. I highly doubt that almost all men here have admitted to you that they are 40+. That is ridiculous. If anything I’d guess the women here tend to skew a bit older than the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:23 PM
1

What is your evidence almost all of the men on PPD are well past middle aged?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:11 PM
–

I’m not attractive or charismatic or witty or masculine to not need to find a gold digger
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 09:53 PM
–

They are correct that those traits significantly reduce their abilities to get dates but not fully. I think that's pretty reasonable to be insecure about. There are obviously exceptions that prove the rule, but rule still exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 09:11 PM
–

Is it insecurity if their correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 09:03 PM
–

Ok and feminism can described as men bad and all problems are men’s fault. See I can straw man too you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 08:47 PM
–

Woman aren't entitled to not having me try use my money to secude them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 08:05 PM
–

My goal is to be a high-tier beta bux and snag a decent girl in my 30's through that. I'm tall, will be in shape with a good job and very stable mentally and money wise. I'm legitimately prime settling/beta bux material
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 07:56 PM
3

Idk what you want from me. I gave you the standards and told you why many are hard to meet for an assortment of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 03:25 AM
3

Many are genetic, so they cannot be changed. So i'd obviously classify those as difficult. It's even worse than difficult, it's IMPOSSIBLE for those that don't hit the genetic requirements. Some take years of consistent gym usage to hit the requirements. Some take years of schooling/work, adequate intelligence, and even stuff like luck/nepotism to land. Some take years to craft a new personality that is attractive to women if you are not a natural. Women's standards are high and difficult to mee…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 03:15 AM
4

Height, Frame, muscles, weight, jawline, hairline, hair, , facial harmony, masculine personality traits (dominance, assertiveness, confidence), charisma, wit, rizz/game, conversation skills (ask lots of questions, eye contact, knows how to lead conversation), ambition, income, wealth, type of employment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 03:09 AM
0

That’s just a common misconception.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 03:03 AM
6

One of the common PPD women (and women outside PPD as well) takes is that men who are romantically and sexually unfulfilled have no or very few friends and don't take the time to cultivate relationships. This is the common braindead lilith take. Personally, I have see that many men have solid friendships especially with other men, solid hobbies, social lives, but fail to succeed romantically. It is one of the defining parts of this "male loneliness epidemic" that many men with good social lives,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 03:00 AM
1

That’s a wild take from you. I thought you were a blue piller
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 01:28 AM
1

No but women are attracted to so few men it’s tough to call them heterosexual. They are chadsexual
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 01:15 AM
1

Most of my single guy friends have the same issue. Some are good looking some average. And none can get girls to be super responsive. If it’s true then it just really proves 20/80 fully correct. Women just aren’t interested in that many guys. You can barely even call women heterosexual since they’re attracted to so few men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 12:58 AM
2

Women saying they want a man who is vulnerable with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 12:29 AM
3

Watch what they do, not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 12:18 AM
5

Women on PPD: We want guys that are great at communication, have good emotional intelligence, and don't expect the guy to initiate all the time Women in real life: unresponsive, flaky, constantly ghost, won't ever initiate, never communicate true feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 12:16 AM
1

The only true entitlements that exist are legal in nature. Your legal rights, entitlements like SS, medicare. Everything else is optional
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 10:56 PM
4

Definitely false.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:10 AM
4

Lol ok
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:49 PM
4

Having sex is a good marker of success for a man not a woman. Getting sex as a woman is easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:42 PM
3

I know the stereotype is women are cleaner but in my life I haven’t seen a significant difference in how clean women and men are. I know many dirty and clean people from both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 10:47 PM
8

I wonder if, deep down, women here actually believe that modern dating takes equal effort from the sexes. Like I really want to know how brainwashed these people are. It’s the equivalent to thinking trump won the 2020 election.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 10:38 PM
6

Problem is most single women are involuntarily single. PPD where it seems like most of the childfree single women are so happy is not a great representation of the the general western population.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 02:05 AM
7

Where does this idea come from that single women are so much happier than single men? All data I have seen is that women tend to be less happy then men, I haven't seen single women vs single men, but I wouldn't expect it to be much different. Single women, on aggregate, are not "living their best lives" or super happy at all. They're just as frustrated with modern life as single men are, they're just less overtly aggressive (they won't be shooting up public places) and talk about it less on the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 09:46 PM
–

So if any guy who was at least 5'4 and had a job, expressed interest in a monogamous LTR and was fine with no kids asked you on a date, you'd say yes to every single one of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 01:41 AM
–

you're just filtering so heavily on looks and charisma/rizz/game that you never get to interact with normal men looking for a monogamous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 01:05 AM
–

I’m in a more chill finance job now that isn’t as bad. 40 hours weeks most of the time with a few bad days every quarter. Not the worst
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:10 AM
–

Why
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:05 AM
–

Finance
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:13 AM
–

Last
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:54 AM
1

most of the girl friends I’ve talked about dating with also approach it this way. So, most of your girl friends would be as willing to go on a date with the 5'2, balding, overweight, indian man with fucked up teeth and a recessed jaw as compared to the 6'4 jacked male model with a six pack if they both approached them on the street? I have literally never met a woman like you or any of your friends. And I do know a decent amount of young women. And I think the vast majority of women I have met h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 09:03 PM
0

Do you have any sort of looks threshold for you date? If it is and it is automatically negating a significant portion of the population from having a chance, then looks is the most important thing. Guys have this too about women, but guys don't deceive women and will gladly looks are the most important thing. You're one women, but if you were to look at women as a whole and the ridiculous thresholds they place on men, you can see looks is the most important thing. Imagine someone with a 6ft+ req…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 08:20 PM
2

watch what they do, not what they say...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:57 PM
–

Q4W: if you knew your partner had a Reddit account and he refused to let you look at it, would you consider that a red flag? The shit I’ve posted on here is too much, I will take this shit to the grave…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 08:22 PM
–

Honestly getting even true rate me to feel bad for you and try to be nice is even worse, I’d rather have truerateme clown the shit out of me then be nice. That’s when you knows it’s really bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 08:02 PM
–

I know one. Does that disprove your comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 07:51 PM
–

Sure people don’t want to be mean, but you don’t have to be mean to be realistic to people about where they stand, I was realwith you and I didn’t call you satans asshole, I wasn’t mean. Men in general are happier and appreciate more bluntness, so they despise the common double speak you will hear from women (and some men) on these issues. They’d argue that the lying to make you feel better is actually meaner overall and will give you false hope once you deal with reality than giving a more real…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 07:24 PM
–

One of the most common complaints from incels and especially red pillers is that women are not socialised to tell the truth regarding how they feel about men in order to appear more virtuous (because women are expected to be pure and not shallow). You’re seeing that phenomenon play out in real time with yourself. You just went on a classic incel/red pill rant lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 07:13 PM
–

Didn’t you go on a massive rant at women for lying to you because they were too nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 07:04 PM
–

I legitimately think one of the appeals of incels is the language and terms they use are hilarious. It honestly cracks me up, and you can’t help but think/use it if you’ve seen it enough It crops up everywhere in online communities even in non incel spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 06:53 PM
–

And that’s how incels get sucked in as well. Job is on the computer or remote and they can fuck off online a lot, barely any social connections so you’re home a lot, suddenly you’re terminally online, Maybe you go incel, maybe you go politics, left or right, maybe you just get addicted to video games, and sometimes you just end up shitposting on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 06:43 PM
–

My man you post constantly on this thread (as do I, not saying I’m better) you may not have fallen down the exact incel rabbit hole, but you have fallen down something
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 06:31 PM
–

We do an experiment by going to a crowded area in town and just walking for a bit and counting, my numbers are always substantially larger… idk if I just have better vision, am more spatially aware, can see more since I’m taller than her, but it’s crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 06:26 PM
–

The most red pilling thing ever is walking down the street with a straight female friend and comparing the number of people you find attractive to the woman. Woman find barely any guys attractive just based off looks, I will find like 15-20x people more attractive when I do it, it’s fucking nuts and kinda sad
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 06:23 PM
–

Lol the financially stable but not frugal is basically just make a fuck ton of money
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 05:07 PM
–

Not every person, but on average over the course of like a year, you will have more positive interactions with peope of all genders if you’re 5 than a 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 04:51 PM
–

Life ain’t fair my man. But I see no reason why anyone wouldn’t soft looksmax as much as they can (excercise, sleep, water, skincare, healthy food, little alcohol). More attractive people are treated better in their Day to day life so it’s really not just about romance. I think you in general will feel more confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 04:46 PM
–

You’re 5’6 right? Youre not a 1, that’s ridic. You’re in the 3-4 range with the potential to be in the 4-5 range. If you were a neurotypical you’d have a shot, but your autism may ultimately fuck you. Also you wanted to know if you’re looksmaxed and you admitted you’re not. I didn’t say you can make huge changes, I said you still have areas that could be improved slightly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 04:35 PM
–

Have you gotten your bf measured accurately? It’s common for the measurement to be wrong, so it could be idk. Also if you are truly 19% you can get down to like 12%, which will make a big difference in the definition of your face and body. And a skin care routine absolutely makes a difference in making you look more youthful and more attractive, it won’t make you like 2 points higher, but it can add like a quarter to a half point of overall attractiveness. You have like one point of realistic ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 04:27 PM
–

You aren’t fully looks maxed though not even close. You could still lose a lot of fat and do stuff like improve your skin
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 04:18 PM
–

I’ve been to two and both didn’t work. I don’t wanna be spending $200 an hour on stuff that hasn’t really worked. I’m also not that unhappy in my life other than dating, everything but dating is fine, so I’m k no it even sure what a therapist would do other than like idk have sex with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:18 PM
–

Been to therapy and it didn’t work
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:11 PM
–

I don’t have the social circle or clout to get info around town, where the “hot places” with great ratios are. My friends are just normal guys who sometimes go to bars/clubs. But we live in a pretty inconvenient location (big city but bad transportation) so most of them don’t really want to go out of the way for places, just the normal stuff around us. Some have relationships so they don’t really care for stuff like the ratio. It would be pretty ridiculous if I was just like “hey let’s go to thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:51 PM
–

You are correct that is just about the ideal ratio but that ratio does not normally happen in reality. The vast majority of bars and clubs are not doing ladies nights or letting women in free while making women pay, and even that will not force the ratio to be 4m:6f The vast majority of places are lazy about it and let the ratio get too out of hand especially late at night where it’s basically a sausage fest, I would honestly love it if places policed the fuck out of the ratio and made guys pay …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:39 PM
–

Yes, but it is still most likely going to have a skewed ratio with more looking single men. Not quite OLD, but that’s why it’s OLD lite
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:30 PM
–

Bars and clubs are OLD lite
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:22 PM
–

I am unable to turn off that part of myself, and I don’t think I’d ever be able to turn it off without castrating myself. If I go to a social place I will always be thinking and subconsciously looking for single women, it’s completely hardwired, I can still have fun despite that though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:16 PM
–

You should absolutely go, do not under any circumstances pass up chances to be around single women when you are in your situation
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 04:31 PM
–

Dude she’s got many guys on her roster, you were trial ran for a bit with the convos you had but sadly didn’t make it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:20 AM
–

It’s a combo of your autism+not exceptional looks. If you had male model level looks, you’d get a bit of action, but since you don’t have that you’re basically fucked, all you can really do is get jacked make as much money as possible and pray you find one person willing to fuck you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:13 AM
–

I lower my chances way too much of getting a second date if I don’t pay the whole bill when it’s a functionally irrelevant expense for me to pay. It’s a very bad move for me not to pay with huge downside and low upside (a small amount of money I won’t notice). I will never not pay a first date unless the woman insists like three times when the bill comes, then I might oblige her, never had that happen, I’ve only gotten like a singular “are you sure?” Or a half hearted “we can split” Fuck that bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:28 PM
–

I hope your future husband has the good sense to get a prenup with you…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:12 PM
–

I would never split on a first date, woman despise splitting a bill and they control the early dating stage market
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:10 PM
–

Lol rich of a modern women telling me to go talk to my grandpa. 😅😅😅 boy do you have a lot to discuss with your grandma about female expectations…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:04 PM
–

Women do it for the free meal, maybe they’re tight on money idfk, and for the free validation that a man would spend a lot of resources on her, it’s absolutely validation for some women. Also I pay for every first date I go on, fortunately I make enough money where the expense is irrelevant, so I absolutely do adjust behaviour knowing how women act. I wasn’t born yesterday, I know most women are like you and want the guy to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:00 PM
–

Then if the guy does a more serious, expensive date, he just gets taken for a free meal and free validation for the women. Men cannot win at modern dating. Why are we even still trying lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 10:51 PM
–

Wow she was worse than I expected while younger. She aged very gracefully
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 08:57 PM
–

Besos’ ex wife is above average for her age group. She’s 50+
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 08:54 PM
–

No the person said they did not find sean o pry attractive, which is the same as calling someone unattractive it’s all the same shit EDIT: I’ve also seen this done by woman to Henry cavill now that I think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 08:32 PM
–

Lol there are women in here calling Sean o pry not attractive. Don’t act like women don’t do the same thing to obviously attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 08:19 PM
–

Most people utilize “white lies” in social situations and aren’t always 100% honest with their full beliefs in real life. They don’t go off with PPD takes in the real world. You’ve said you hate that before in this chat, so I am wondering if you are just really uncensored in real life and spouting off takes you’d say on PPD. Not sure if true you can confirm or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 07:09 PM
–

I’m actually starting to think it might not just be your autism
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 06:53 PM
–

I feel like that is the MO for most guys in their 20s who are decently attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 06:37 PM
–

I wonder if an issue for dating apps for women is that men know the matches they get are below their level due to how skewed dating apps are towards women, so men don’t really put in a ton of effort for a serious relationship and just go for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 06:06 PM
7

One issue is that is average data which can be skewed by outliers like chads. You could have 1 Chad with n count of 50 and nine incel virgins and get to an average count of 5. I’d be more interested in the median number of sexual partners for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:22 AM
–

Well adrien broody is a pretty attractive guy, so I’m not surprised you get tingles from him. And, unintentionally, I think you perfectly illustrate the basic issues men have in the modern dating world. Cera has a pretty bland face for sure, with no great or terrible features really, but he’s not overweight, which shows in the face and he has pretty good facial harmony which you agree with. And you say you feel nothing sexually towards him. The female equivalent of Michael cera would have most g…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 12:15 AM
–

This guy works as an average face imo
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 11:45 PM
–

I would say michael cera is a bit above average, around a 6, he’s in the average range but at the high end of it. He doesn’t really have any great or striking features, but he has pretty good facial harmony
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 11:44 PM
–

At work and can’t research faces, only comment
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 11:38 PM
–

Lol of course that guy struggles with dating
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 11:01 PM
–

Height for 25-34, 5’9, income for 25-34, 53k, weight for 25-29, 180 pounds. I can’t give you average faces now but maybe later
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 10:34 PM
–

What have people told you repeatedly is not average?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 10:15 PM
–

I mean do you want pictures of random people for appearance? Also the data by age for income, net worth, and location is freely available for you to look through yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 10:12 PM
–

Most friendships male or female are developing organically through some sort of shared place they spend a lot of time, like school or work or a sports team. Active social skills are not required for those. Now there are people who are good at making friends outside of that and being good at that does take some good active social skills, but the requirements aren’t as much as what is required for men in the dating/courtship phase. Also, most people aren’t making many new friends at all, we know t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 10:08 PM
–

They are social skills, but active social skills are the hardest to cultivate, skills that require you to initiate, to charm, to inspire are going to be harder than your standard social skills. Why do you think people complain so much about bad bosses? Leadership requires active social skills to succeed and not many have the capability.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 09:04 PM
–

Women fail to understand that having good general social skills does not always translate to having good male specific dating social skills. For women, dating social skills are heavily correlated with other general social skills because they are in the passive role. Be pleasant, interested, good eye contact, ask questions, good conversationalist. But for men there are extra skills required that are about being the active role, leading conversations, planning exciting dates, understanding when an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 08:38 PM
–

I do have a rizz scale, 1 or 0, you got it or you don’t. Sociability as a concept is too broad because it encompasses more than just dating specific social skills, (social skills for friends, family, coworkers, strangers). You’d have to separate out each type of social skill (because they are all very different) and categorise them one by one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 08:14 PM
–

Ok don’t use 1-10, it doesn’t really matter. What matters is you are rating physical looks just as men are. For some reason women have this odd thing about using numbers when you’re system of ugly, cute, and hot could be denoted as numbers (1,2,3) and it would be the same exact system. Essentially all people rate people based on physical looks. Men and women alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 08:07 PM
–

There are scales as well for all those other things you mentioned too. It’s just that normally 1-10 scales are for looks specifically. The issue with using a 1-10 scale for something like “swag/socialibility” is that women’s standards for having good “swag” are very high that most men end up just having very low swag or rizz/game in their eyes. It’s more looked at as a binary thing, like a 1 or 0 scale. He has “good” rizz is used a lot. People don’t really say he has 8 rizz or something like tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:57 PM
–

Normally it is assumed to be purely looks and nothing else. So basically face body and height
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:48 PM
–

How do you not see that categorising people as average and below average is ranking them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:46 PM
–

You were the one who mentioned the terms average and below average first. What do you think those terms refer to other than a rating system? I just used numbers and a more detailed rating to describe what I was saying. 5 being average, 6 being slightly above average, and 4 being where below average begins.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:36 PM
–

Nah I doubt it, it really is pretty bad for 5-6 men out there. The thing is the 4’s and below have gone through their life accepting they are ugly and they know it. 5 and 6’s feel like they deserve more than what they can get in modern dating. Being under 7 as a man is a huge social disadvantage is the modern world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:27 PM
–

Most girl profiles are horrifyingly bad as well, and you can make a good profile as a guy but it doesn’t matter, all that matter is how photogenic you are
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 12:04 AM
–

Where are you seeing that most guys are forming relationships? Most young men are single, many because they don’t want a relationship or are just dropping out of the dating pool. The non spectacular men forming relationships are usually forming them from social circles formed in school or work. Past school, a man needs to be very good looking and charismatic to do well in “colder” situations like bars, clubs, and OLD. The only real option is social circles for more average guys, which are statis…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 11:31 PM
–

If you truly imagine the normal poster here to be like that video, you truly don’t understand the issues faced by most guys today.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 10:34 PM
–

I have loads of positive interactions with women. Women are rarely mean to me, they smile at me sometimes, I get complimented by women (friends and family though), I never get called a creep or insulted by them, I have pleasant conversations with them, great work, family, and friendly relationships with women I know I just have nothing romantic. It’s a completely different type of social interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 10:01 PM
–

Sure, but there are a couple issues. Many of my guy friends are settling down and don’t want to go out much. And second going out to bars and clubs with only guys mostly sucks. Women despise groups of single men without any women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 08:01 PM
–

Yes but they are all male and all of my current hobbies are either solitary or male dominated. I go to bars and clubs withy male friends or house parties. That’s where those interactions would sometimes happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:54 PM
–

I have been to therapy and it was not effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:47 PM
–

I already work out, lift weights, play sports, and play video games. I’m not fantasising about these interactions lol, I feel like you don’t really understand what I’m saying fully
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:45 PM
–

How many people do you think the average person even talks to in their lifetime? Really gets to know? Your options are the people around you and who you have socialised with. Everyone is settling for those people. You’re essentially picking the person you like the most in the people you’ve interacted with that also likes you. It’s the same for me too. I just have much less of those interactions than women and top tier men. I am also assessing compatibility when I talk to these women in these inf…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:38 PM
–

It’s less that I am putting an unrealistic expectation on the interaction. It’s not like I am imagining a future with every single real life interaction I have with a single women, I am aware the odds on one single interaction are not good. It is more that I know it is an important interaction that I desperately do not want to fuck up, i want to put my best foot forward on each interaction and it is pretty anxiety inducing. I need to get at least one right or else I die alone. I don’t really get…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:29 PM
–

Still not internalising it. I don’t want to pedestalize those interactions, I do it because they are just so much more important and infrequent than any other interactions I have that they are automatically pedestalized. It’s not possible to have it be any other way. The problem is they so few women give me the time of day that I am unable to vet in the way you want. If I vetted like you want, I’d just get no one. Is that what you want? Maybe that’s your goal, that guys like me die alone, I do u…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:17 PM
–

Need therapy for what exactly? Having a basic understanding of math and an understanding of the interactions I have in my day to day life? I go out a decent amount to bars, social events, but I still get very few interactions with single woman per year in a social environment where she is engaged in the convo. Accounting for compatibility, mutual attraction, and just general luck she’d be interested on that day (not having a girls night or something), I’m getting VERY few possible real life roma…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:11 PM
–

You’re welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 06:56 PM
–

You wouldn’t necessarily know from your interactions, but many single guys you interact with will be thinking it. No way around it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 06:53 PM
–

Then don’t. I’m just being realistic about the situation modern dating has created where many guys are left behind romantically and a few men do really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 06:52 PM
–

I don’t think women really understand the level of romantic loneliness many guys find themselves in nowadays. They can read guys in here talk about it, but I don’t think they really internalise it. I’m at the point where every single real life interaction I have with a single women in a social environment is vitally important, they happen so infrequently that just a single interaction has such massive possible influence on my life. That’s literally where some guys are. Think about that when talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 06:37 PM
–

I wouldn’t say aside from extreme cases. There’s a lot more than just extreme cases for guys who are ducked for their looks. But there are many guys who’s looks are enough if They literally have perfect internal stares and perfect masculine personalities, so you could say most guys dating struggles can be attributed to that. The problem is the expectations for guys in regards to looks and personality in the early dating stages is insane and many guys aren’t able to hit that. Just a “normal” pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 09:04 PM
–

So?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 08:19 PM
–

MAGA conservatives are left-leaning compared to the rest of the world
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 08:12 PM
–

I would say generally yes, they are normal, depending on how you define it. Problem is, many can pass as "normal" on the outside but have underlying issue internally, like myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 07:45 PM
–

Either mindless platitudes or basic skills they actually don’t work. The funniest meme is blue killers expecting that if you suddenly wear clothing that fits you and a haircut that works your face, you suddenly have women interested in you. It in no way works like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 06:57 PM
–

You’ve met me, virtually, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 06:55 PM
–

Women have unlimited options for casual sex, fwb’s, hookups, but not for monogamous relationships. So a woman cheating in a long term monogamous relationship is a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:42 PM
–

Does that mean I can never have a fulfilling relationship because I know those terms?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:36 PM
–

Men are actually less loyal, they cheat more
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:20 PM
–

RMV is also a combination of many things, including looks. Yes, one of them is money/resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:44 PM
–

the vast majority of guys have low SMV though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:38 PM
–

Money matters more for a man's RMV than his SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:27 PM
–

I have low SMV, but high RMV, the problem is that you need decent SMV to even get your foot in the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:04 PM
–

The dating market is the early dating stages that serves as the beginning for all types of relationships including hookups, fwb, situationships, ltr’s, and just casual dating. And women control that market. Men gaining power in the later stages of an ltr doesn’t change that. The reason why modern women have so much sexual power is they control the beginning stages of all casual AND long term relationships, which blunts the power men would have in the later stages of LTR’s. This ends up giving wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 11:18 PM
–

People are actually so overweight in the usa these days, it’s really quite sad…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 10:25 PM
–

Nah she would be a 6-6.5 on true rate me for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 08:51 PM
–

Hard to rate off one pic but looks to be 7.5-8 to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 08:15 PM
–

If I were a woman I’d go through my hoe phase and ride the cock carousel in university and then focus on finding a long term relationship with a quality guy in my early twenties after college. Too many woman waste their most valuable years looking for fun and then are sad later when it catches up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 08:09 PM
–

I know three 5’2, balding, skinny, Indian janitor brothers who absolutely slay. And I know no one else who does well with woman in my social circle. Just those three brothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 07:13 PM
–

This is not a left liberal thing but a human thing that is made worse in a polarised society like the usa. You don’t think right wing circles villainize liberals?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 07:01 PM
–

Women control the beginning stages but then it begins to even out later when the long term commitment is formed and especially when pregnancy happens. That is when the women desires investment for the child and the man would have more desire to leave and sleep around. Most of the complaining here from men is about the early dating stages when women control it. You start to hear common women complaints later in the process regarding commitment issues and lack of investment in the child when men h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:33 PM
–

Are humans the only mammals that form long term relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:18 PM
–

That’s not really cringe, it’s just a basic understanding of how sexual selection in mammals normally works.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 05:57 PM
–

Yeah I’m not really into fat chicks, only time it happens is when they are slightly overweight and they have really good fat allocation genetics and a good body’s type, but that is super rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 05:46 PM
–

For hinge if you like someone it will specifically show on your profile with “x likes you.” My feed is just people that hinge thinks I might be compatible with not people that actually like me. And since modern dating is so skewed my looksmatch is a 200+ obese women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 05:42 PM
–

So do you go for poor men with “passions” or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 05:26 PM
–

True, but that’s more because modern dating is so skewed that my looksmatch is an obese woman at this point even though I’m tall and in decent shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 05:22 PM
–

Ahh yes, because people being sensible and getting useful degrees with good job prospects in an inflationary economy with high levels of wealth and income inequality are just so boring and lame. Fuck em right
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 05:19 PM
–

But I am 6’5, I am not fat, if anything I would be considered on the thinner side
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 05:15 PM
–

That’s not how it works on hinge
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 05:12 PM
–

Lol the vast majority of my feed on dating apps weigh more than I do and I’m 200+.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 05:05 PM
–

I’m trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 09:56 PM
–

You’re likely attractive. Most guys aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 09:51 PM
–

Dating is just too tough for guys these days. The juice ain’t worth the squeeze, most guys should be MGTOW imo
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 09:44 PM
–

I’ve gotten to that level of closeness with male friends on a couch where there is limited space so it just ends up having to be kinda close and touchy. But I wouldn’t ever do that with male friends without that sort of restriction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:17 PM
–

Physically attractive to me would be the person has a combination of physical traits that I find sexually appealing enough to desire sex with the person. Compatible would be if we hit it off from a personality standpoint, like enjoy being around each other, not awkward to hang out together, and also some red flag stuff lien drugs, serious mental health issues, politics, religion, values stuff maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 07:43 PM
–

I love when people ask me “what’s my type” I’m like why the fuck so you think I can have a type. My type is a woman I’m attracted to and compatible with and who is attracted to me Types are for women and men with options.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 07:28 PM
–

I wonder how your are defining emotional intimacy and if it might be a definition that favours female friendships more
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 07:06 PM
–

Who said men can’t have emotional intimacy in their friendships? I have high levels of emotional intimacy in my strongest male friendships and a couple family ones. If anything, my experience with platonic friendships has been the opposite of the normal reddit opinion that female relationships are stronger (except the physical part which is universally true for me). The strongest platonic friendships bonds I know of tend to be male/male while the platonic friendships with more outward emotional …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 06:51 PM
–

I wouldn’t get married without a prenup assuming I’m much more well off than the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 06:30 PM
–

I have a better chance of being a millionaire in net worth than finding a girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 06:07 PM
–

That honestly sounds like she was trying to free meal him and ice cream was too cheap for it. Good that he didn’t go through with a more expensive date
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:49 PM
–

Because they don’t get all of their companionship needs from their female friends….
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:15 PM
–

It’s ostensibly a debate sub but functions more like an advice column and pity party, specifically for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:05 PM
–

I have rich intimate friendships with men, but have no desire to touch them at all. May be a man vs woman thing, idk. My desire for sexual and physical intimacy is only with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:03 PM
–

Honestly I sorta agree, but not just women, why the hell are men and women who are married or romantically/sexually successful even here? Like why subject yourself to this crap?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:46 PM
–

Yep it’s really bad
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:27 AM
–

Well I believe I could still have a fulfilling sex live with someone I had that base desire for, but I don’t think I could have one for women I have no attractions towards. So the no attraction woman would be not compatible at all, while the base attraction woman is still compatible. So the non looksmatch girl I have attraction towards is compatible because I can still have a good sex life even if there are hotter girls where I could have a more fulfilling one. For example, I am attracted to gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:32 AM
–

I agree and would absolutely want the person to be aroused by me. Though I would think that is covered by compatible. I think if the person is not aroused by you, you are not a compatible couple. How can you have a compatible sexual and romantic relationship with one party not having sexual attraction to the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:15 AM
–

If I’m aroused, I’m aroused as well. But there are levels to the arousal, higher physical attraction generally will equal more base arousal, though arousal can also be affected by other things too. So I’d like to find someone that arouses more than to the lowest level based on physical attractiveness. And a looksmatch is more realistic than say an instagram model…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:04 AM
–

Well what are the reasons why o pry would be considered almost universally more attractive than devito? Those differences can tell you what objective beauty is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:38 PM
–

Ok let’s compare Sean o pry and Danny devito? Is Sean o pry objectively more attractive than Danny devito? I guess we could maybe find a couple people who find devito better looking but it’s so small to be not that important. And we have also done a lot of studies and beauty and there is lots of science behind certain traits being more coveted in general. I feel like you’re being wilfully obtuse again by denying the obvious conventional attractiveness traits that exist society that are desired b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:32 PM
–

It’s common in any sort of pill community or one where gender and dating dynamics are discussed. It is not used a lot in other areas, so I should have added it’s a common term in these communities. But the dude is posting here so i do generally expect people to know the pill lingo if they’re posting here, and “looksmatch” is a pretty common one overall
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:27 PM
–

Attractiveness is subjective with objective elements. There are physical traits that are almost universally coveted in people to the extent that you can come up with attractiveness leagues pretty easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:25 PM
–

I feel like you are just being wilfully obtuse. Looksmatch is a commonly used phrase, is easy to look up and find definitions for, and is also quite easy to just intuitively understand (looksmatch=person of similar level of attractiveness to myself)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:15 PM
–

No I am attracted to many women, some of which I’d consider to be below my looks level. A compatible looksmatch is just something I want. I’d be willing to settle for a compatible woman that i at least have some baseline level of attractiveness to. I would not enter into a relationship with someone I have no attractiveness to though, it’d be awful for me and I don’t think fair to the woman either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:11 PM
–

I just want an LTR with a compatible person who is my looksmatch but that seems increasingly impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:02 PM
–

They are not psychopaths, TRP is just amoral with the goal being sex for men. Taking advantage of mentally ill women or women with emotional trauma is one of the best ways to do that and also bat heavily out of your league looks wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:41 PM
–

i peaked in elementary school...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 09:06 PM
–

I actually don’t get the huge hate on strip clubs or prostitution, it’s a solid place for a guy to get some sexual attention and young women to make some money With the way the dating market is headed, many men are going to need that sexual outlet
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 12:38 AM
–

nice, I love having those types of players on my team
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:46 PM
–

are you one of those scrapper PF's or a stretch 4?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:31 PM
–

I love when I can feel the strength gains from the gym on the bball court. Being able to absorb and finish through much more contact feels amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:15 PM
–

The problem is the looksmatched version of your guy self may not be as attractive as you think. It’s much easier to be physically attractive as a women than as a man, men are just way thirstier.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:46 AM
–

I don’t get the statistics, they don’t fit together. That would mean there are no guys who date and don’t find an LTR? Who only have one ltr? Your stats would tell me that 100% of men have multiple LTR or never date.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 12:47 AM
–

I’m 6’5 and see a decent amount of guys in the 6’3-6’5 range, I’d say like above 6’6 is pretty rare for me to see though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 12:43 AM
–

I’m that tall and it’s not too uncommon to see guys my height around, especially younger guys
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 12:33 AM
–

In general it’s the insistence from many women that they are looking for a solid long term partners (want good traits for a long term partner, reliability, loyalty, financial stability, emotional maturity) but are so harsh with men on good traits for short term relationships (looks, game, charisma, excitement, extraversión, sexual prowess). The problem is that woman judge super harshly on the short term stuff while saying they want good long term partners, but their harsh judgments on short term…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:51 PM
–

Maybe not every single specific women, but it’s easy to see patterns in women’s selection criteria for men that make it painfully obvious there is an amount of deception/lying occurring. Or human females are just the worst animal selectors ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:47 PM
–

I’ll get you the comments later, I’m busy rn
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:42 PM
–

Remote indications post history
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:26 PM
–

This is the ultimate issue. Women just aren’t that attracted to that many men. I see so many women around that I’m attracted to it’s insane lol, like just going to a grocery store I’ll see a few
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:45 PM
–

Remember that according to the based blue pullers here, only autistic men are doomed with women and every other man has it easy. Only 1-5% men struggle with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:28 PM
–

You just didn’t understand it which was made abundantly clear by the fact that the argument didn’t have anything to do with having sex with virgins. Go practice some critical thinking and reading comprehension by taking a look at the latest Supreme Court opinions. I heard the one on affirmative action is pretty good.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:46 PM
–

Yeah I know that is a thing, problem is I’m an atheist and I don’t think the woman would be satisfied knowing I have tried to have sex and failed and I am not attempting to save myself for marriage. I am not a virgin in the way she wants
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:39 PM
–

That’s explicitly untrue and illustrates a massive failure of reading comprehension. I thought you said you were smart and able to read and understand Supreme Court opinions 😅😅😅
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:36 PM
–

Honestly even reading here it’s so obvious how much bias there is against male virgins past early 20s. In this society it’s essentially a forced lie or something you should never disclose. Problem is that my friends know, I should have just made up a casual fling I had in college that is unverifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:21 PM
–

Talk to her, pay attention to her personality, see if red flags pop up, suggest splitting the bill since the common complaint is “being used for money”. Normal vague garbage advice women usually give. If I meet a woman at a social event or on an app where there isn't a ton of conversation before we meet up, it is impossible as a guy to completely verify you're not being manipulated before asking on a date. And if you wait too long you run the risk of losing spark or just not ever meeting the per…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:40 AM
–

You didn’t even say that the take was wrong lol, also you can’t even explain how to adequately vet a woman before going on a date. What are things I ask a woman on an app, at a bar, or at a social event to gauge whether she is manipulative? How can I be sure she is not lying to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:41 AM
–

Women complain about dating but have different issues. They can get dates and casual sex easily, but it’s tough for them to get a man they’re attracted to commit to them. And they do complain about it a lot, but mostly to their friends and on other social media sites more for women, Reddit is mostly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:05 PM
–

I likely not have not seen THE exact average women who is the most average of all average, but I have seen plenty in the averageish range. They are not really that attractive, but men are really thirsty so we go for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:58 PM
–

Why do you think the average women is any better?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:44 PM
–

The average women isn’t better. She is 5’4 170 lbs and I doubt makes anything more than the average guy. The problem is we shit heavily on average guys but for some reason there’s this idea they somehow women léveled up and they are better than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:40 PM
–

Do you think it's possible that most of the people you know are absolute losers? I would say they are not all absolute losers, i'd say none are tbh. If they are, then the majority of men these days are losers. Which does speak to the extremely harsh standards women place on men these days in looks, job, social skills, social status, game.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:10 PM
–

I do go outside and see people and I see a lot of people struggling. I see a lot of people succeeding as well too. In fact, the men I see in relationships tell me that they would not break up with their partners, because they see how bad the dating market right now is. I see a lot of more below-average/average guys in relationships who met their partners in school through social circle game tell me they know how hard they would have it if they had to get back into the game. You literally sound l…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:04 PM
–

I wish people came here to actually discuss in good faith...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:56 PM
–

I don't know anything about you, but your claim that only ugly and autistic men struggle with dating is completely ridiculous. You also made a claim that only 5% of men struggle with dating. Another ridiculous one. Even more than 5% of women struggle with dating... like what kind of comment is that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:52 PM
–

There is definitely a correlation, there has been many studies on this. But it’s still not like 100% or anything so you shouldn’t break up with someone you really like over a high n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:50 AM
–

So cold approaching random women and hoping they say yes? That’s like an online dating success rate and you also can’t really assess for compatibility at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:11 AM
–

What does putting yourself out there mean? It’s just vague garbage
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:07 AM
–

In 2023 you basically have to run hard social circle game or have met a girl from school, community groups (church), the relationships I see that get formed organically like from bars or apps are where the guy is a out of the girls league because it’s hard for a looksmatch guy to woo girls without that social proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:45 AM
–

stop swiping on only chads...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 07:41 PM
1

I don’t simp
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 01:32 AM
2

Yes Mr. Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 01:16 AM
3

I’m a perfect docile and undesirable man. Women like their attractive and desirable men to be confident, brash, assertive, and dominant, and the unattractive men to be calm, docile, and passive. An unattractive man with the wrong traits is the worst possible and branded a creep by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 01:04 AM
-2

It's not necessarily a bad thing, but it is true. In a freer, more liberal society, with woman being educated along with men, birth rates will end up crashing. I'm not aware of any society that goes through the processes of industrialization, increased education for women, into a freer, more liberal society, that doesn't have the crashing birth rates. It will end up causing large amounts of economic stagnation and collapse in the future, but that's what women are choosing. I'll be dead for it an…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:15 PM
–

looked up exactly "wage gap usa" and was unable to find anything still. Results were nearly identical to searching "gender pay gap usa."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:58 PM
–

I googled gender pay gap usa and looked at the first four-five sources and could find no evidence that proved your claim. If you have a special source that proves it, i'd love to see it!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:51 PM
1

I explicitly have not made up my mind, never stated that, or even implied it. I am completely open to the claim you made existing in some capacity. I just have not seen any specific evidence for it. You claim to have seen it, but are unwilling to provide it for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:44 PM
2

Maybe it’s a respect thing? Women on average get less respect because people know they have it easier, especially in dating. They may see it as easier being a woman, but the journey to possible success is more interesting as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:15 PM
2

Whether I’d be born a man or women is dependent on specific traits I would have. If I were to be born with top tier genetics, I’d for sure rather be a man. Imo it’s better to be a top tier male than a top tier woman. Being average or below in the west is most likely going to be better as a woman though. Though if I were average and were to be born extroverted and charismatic, I’d probably rather be a man. Introverted men suck ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:05 PM
1

It’s not even a claim like that, it was literally a statistical claim about women earning x% less than men for working the same job with the the same performance. Told to google it because the info is there, but she couldn’t get it herself…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:55 PM
0

I feel like the ppd men tend to try to use links and sources more though it is true that many studies are misinterpreted or, which is something I do as well, is come up with explanations for outcomes that are unstated or unproven in the sources. Though at least they are sourcing stuff and coming up with ideas on stuff even if there is a bias. It’s better than just offering a claim and no source
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:49 PM
2

lol at ppd women thinking “the information is available. Go google it” is a reasonable response to a request for a source for a specific claim. What a fucking joke
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:38 PM
1

That’s not how any of this works. You made the claim that women working the same job with the same performance as men are paid 84% of what men are and won’t give any sources. It’s your job to show that or else I have no other conclusion than you’re mistaken.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:28 PM
1

I just did a look through on google and was unable to find sources that show what you are claiming. I was able to find a source from the US department of labor that shows women working full time are paid about 84% of what men are in aggregate, but that specifically does not show that women working the same job with the same performance as men are paid 84% of what men are. If that’s what you are citing for the 84%, you are misinterpreting what those numbers are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:20 PM
1

Can you send me any data showing that? That doesn’t seem right
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:09 PM
0

Who said I was rejected by any of these girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:53 PM
6

lol lilith compared the fable chick to salma hayek... Her worst take yet, and i'm usually alright with lilith
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:46 PM
1

Teeth are crooked, chin is too large and masculine, and nose is a bit big. Other than those features her face is just plain with no great features so there’s nothing offsetting those bad features, so her face is below average, though I wouldn’t say ugly. The only thing she has in her favor is just not being fat and having a decent looking body but that brings her to averageish imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:34 PM
1

She looks averageish to me. She has an above average body due to being fit but unfortunately has a below average face despite the fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:25 PM
2

I know a lot of pretty girls in their mid-20's who live with parents, no ambition, no career, maybe working a dead end job and they continually get pumped and dumped by Chad, and then they have the audacity to wonder they can't get commitment. No women ever asks "why should a high-tier guy commit to me?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:08 PM
2

What is the actual wage gap for men and women working the same job and same performance on average?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:53 PM
1

6
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:33 PM
–

That’s definitely a compliment though a bit of a weird one
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:00 AM
–

So like lie or something? What if it’s someone I do want an ltr with? I don’t want the relationship built on a lie that I have more experience than I say
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:22 AM
–

Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:21 AM
–

I feel like I’m damaged good, but not because I’ve done anything, it’s what I haven’t done. If you have basically no experience as a guy, you’re effectively damaged goods and not loveable
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:17 AM
–

I just kinda feel like we are these sick, disgusting animals who aren’t desired anywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:48 PM
–

I have a lot of internalised misandry I need to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:33 PM
–

What exactly do you mean by gym bro? Is it someone that just works out a lot or someone who is like really into lifting culture? Not dating someone who works out a lot seems pretty exclusionary, I mean it’s the best modern thing to do improve health…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:36 PM
–

I wonder if I’ve ever interacted with some who frequents PPD in real life, I doubt it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:33 PM
–

That sucks I’m sorry about that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:16 PM
–

Who else are you taking about then lol? We were literally just having this exact argument when you posted it…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:01 PM
–

I ask anyone here including myself why they are here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:59 PM
–

But this is again not what you said. Nobody cares if you’re only interested in guys your age, that’s not what I commented about. I commented because you stated all guys here were delusional for saying dating had gotten easier as they aged. You’re being dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:52 PM
–

nah
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:18 AM
–

i do as much as i can that isn't surgery. can't fix genetics sadly
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:58 AM
–

not enough
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:52 AM
–

are you really attractive? I'd believe you then
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:20 AM
–

i don't believe you, unless you're really attractive or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:14 AM
–

Passport is last resort, ideally I’d like to meet someone who’s fluent in English and understands American culture well, it’s just easier to relate to the person and would be easier to have a ltr work. I’m still young enough where I don’t have to do passport yet. It will be on the table in the future though
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:28 AM
–

I’ve been at the gym for 5-6 days a week trying to make it so I don’t have to passport bro
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:12 AM
–

How much do muscles even help?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:19 AM
–

Pics?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:57 AM
–

No necessarily. People don’t only take PED’s for the visual appearance. Many athletes take it for functional strength, explosiveness, and decreased recovery time. Not all of these athletes necessarily have a specific look that would automatically tell you , oh they are on steroids. Do you remember the steroid era in baseball? You could not tell directly by looking at those people that they were juiced, but they were and their performance in the field showed it, not their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 12:26 AM
–

Lol cuz your college bf is an expert on that and can tell if anyone is natty?? Sureeeeeeee
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 12:02 AM
–

You don’t know who is or is not on roids
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:59 PM
–

Imagining is boring. I’d never have a shot
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:54 PM
–

Doomscrolling random intstagram hotties is the worst form of rotting ever. I refuse to engage
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:44 PM
–

yes, but those girls are lusted after like no other. You have no chance with them. Stop fantasizing about it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:40 PM
–

You’d probably next me because I am atheist
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:48 PM
–

Where the fuck are all these single, lonely professional women in big cities I keep hearing about? I’m reading on Reddit about these women complaining about they can’t find any men with their shit together or who want anything serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:34 PM
–

I completely understand the issues black women have, I have a lot of white friends who say they are not attracted to black women and wouldnt date them. I would date one for sure but I am mostly attracted to lighter skinned black women myself, though I have seen darker skinned black women I am attracted to as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:06 PM
–

I really struggle to rate myself, I feel like it’s hard to be objective about myself especially my face. I think my face is average but I am really tall and pretty fit, so I would say a 6. And I’m 28
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:04 PM
–

Where are these women going to meet quality men? Are they on apps? Are they swiping on 5% of guys on apps or are they giving average looking guys a a chance at all on an app? Are they approaching men at all in real life areas like bars, parks, stores? Or just expected to be approached themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:46 PM
–

Waiting or working in retail in college or even like right after college is no issue. It’s the post college career, especially if the person is late 20s and still working in those areas with no other goals that gives me the ick. And I get a pretty young woman can make a lot as a waitress or a hostess. But can they do that twenty years from now when their looks and youth fade? How are the benefits in a waiting job? The benefits of a teaching job and long term stability will be more beneficial for…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:28 PM
–

Decent career is some job that is not dead end, so it has some level of upward growth. If it doesn’t have the upward growth, I’d like to see some reason for that like a passion for the job (teaching would be a great example). The ubiquitous women who don’t know what they want to do constantly in service like waiting at restaurants or in retail is a bit of a turn off NGL. Intelligent would look like being able to hold interesting conversations on topics like politics, history, philosophy, etc. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:42 PM
–

TRP is fucking stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:18 PM
–

28
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:16 PM
–

I just want a woman with a decent career, is intelligent, who is reasonably attractive, doesn’t have kids, wants a family and I get along with for an LTR. Is that too high of standards? I also got all of those myself except possibly the attractiveness part but that is too subjective for me to truly know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:12 PM
–

If too many men go unwanted and unpaired, then they stop playing productive roles in society and go off doing drugs, playing video games all day, getting violent. It’s a complete society killer. But if that is what women want, then they can have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:33 PM
–

having a 3% cashback credit card is kinda nice, that shit really adds up if you buy everything with your card.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:16 PM
–

Ok, let's start with the easiest one. Are you meaning to tell me that you believe that the statement "being overweight makes you on net less attractive" is a myth? If you actually believe that statement is a myth, I think that's just a highly unserious statement and effectively arguing in bad faith. That's getting to 2+2=5 levels of ridiculousness. It's like 1984 levels of gaslighting bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:59 PM
–

bro seriously, go to any news site and read the front page. I actually sorta envy you if you actually don't know what i'm talking about lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:54 PM
–

The only one i'll give you is travelling. The others are either on net less attractive (tattoos/overweight/aging) or do actually make it harder to pair bond/emotionally attach (number of sexual partners, but that goes for men as well). I'm not saying those things are necessarily bad, but they will make finding a man you're attracted to, and then a happy relationship harder. But if you like tattoos, are fine being overweight, and like having sex with many different people, go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:16 PM
–

All that stuff just makes it harder, not impossible. I don't doubt your lived experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:05 PM
–

the walls are ACTUALLY closing in on trump this time, amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 10:55 PM
–

I shouldn't have even found a man, be attracted to him, or be in a happy relationship. Why would you be unable to find a man or happy relationship according to this sub? This sub pushes that women have it way easier than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 10:53 PM
–

and what reality is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 10:12 PM
–

What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 09:22 PM
–

Always put liberal on your dating profile, especially in an urban metropolitan area.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 09:15 PM
–

I think a lot of men go in to dating with the idea of finding a relationship. However, if they don't feel like having a relationship with the girl for whatever reason, the vast majority of men would definitely want to continue a casual relationship if they thought she was attractive enough for that. Is that wrong? I don't think so, as long as it's not deceiving. Men like sex... I'd say I fall into that camp as well. Goal is LTR, but a fun casual relationship would be something fun to do while lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 07:18 PM
–

Wait you’re telling me a girl who is 6-7 in looks (relatively equal to looks as you) found it hard to get matches in a major U.S. city? Wtf? And I live in one of the biggest U.S. cities lol If you go and try making a reasonable, realistic profile for a 5-6 guy and try swiping and using it, you will understand fully why I am reacting the way I am to your story. It is legitimately mind blowing like you wouldn’t believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:29 PM
–

You’re telling me that as a 6 in a major U.S. city you would message guys you consider to be your looksmatch about half the time? There might be something missing in the convo here, like you’re misrating either the guys or yourself, or you’re not remembering, or you’re just outright being deceiving. But I literally don’t believe you for a second. I know that’s not a great answer, but it’s just my real take.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:22 PM
–

Then you’re probably a very attractive person swiping on other very attractive people with options on the app. You’re at a point where the guys you’re swiping on do well enough where they actually get some power themselves from being so attractive (8+). 90%+ of the men on the app don’t have that experience so it’s kinda hard to use that as the barometer of what dating apps are like.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:07 PM
–

My experience is completely and utterly opposed to yours. I’m not sure how you could possibly come to any other conclusion based on my experience on apps over the past three years. Are the guys you’re with much more attractive than you? I barely get any matches, and Like 90% of matches I get fizzle from the woman who stops replying. And the guys I’ve talked to agree as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 07:56 PM
–

Well women dictate everything in the early dating states, especially on apps. Later on it will get more equal. Remember though most of the guys here and the guys complaining about the issue are unable to get past the beginning stage where women tule everything…. So it sorta makes sense why they think that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 07:50 PM
–

95% of rich people are not dumb assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 07:29 PM
–

I assume when someone says what their league is it is assumed to be context dependent, location, time, age group. If their was some dude in an old folks home who was pretty attractive (basically just got fit and no ED lol) then I would call him an 8 in his lane, but the guy would not be an 8 trying to date in the young person scene in an American urban area.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:48 PM
–

I am going to continue on with the date for sure, I just assume I will find some issue with her down the line, she’s way too hot for her to be interested in me, especially on an app where she has access to loads of guys
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:11 PM
–

Not being an attractive male
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:50 PM
–

Really hot tinder girl agreed to a date... There has to be something wrong with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 02:57 PM
–

I think imma do monk mode for my whole life, peace losers
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 10:07 PM
–

Ok I actually laughed at that lol, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:35 PM
–

I’m not choosing to see the world this way. I’m observing the world and commenting on what I see. Would you prefer I lie to myself? That seems like the worst option.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:51 PM
–

Good luck, I hope you don’t fuck up the earth for future generations. It’s honestly a big responsibility, some women may not want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:36 PM
–

Interactions between sexes are transactional and always negotiations of which leverage is always useful. Men have basically no leverage left except for their physically attractiveness or if you have natural charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:26 PM
–

Everything is inherently transactional. It’s not necessarily a fight for power, it’s more of a negotiation. I have nothing to offer a modern, educated woman who works, specifically if you are not physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:24 PM
–

I have no power or leverage in a conversation with a woman. I am completely at their mercy in every interaction. It is now a woman’s world and men are just living in it. With the collapse of physical strength being relevant in modern contexts and the empowerment of women in education and the workforce, men have become increasingly useless in the modern world. Women are now the ones giving birth, still the primary caregivers, and all working equally with men. The social, cultural, and sexual powe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:00 PM
–

I legitimately hate watching porn. It barely does anything for me to watch girls I would never get to fuck in real life. I prefer to use my imagination with girls I have a connection with or ones that have expressed interest in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:30 PM
–

If a woman has a slim body and a face that is relatively attractive, then she will constantly have options with guys much, much better than me. I need to find girls that are butterfaces or a little chubby with decent facial features. I need to find people where better guys will be put off but at least has a bit of attraction to me. If I am just not physically attracted at all, it is a dealbreaker. It might be shallow but I can’t help it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:13 PM
–

Of course but I said most, not elite. If it’s actually true and they are still getting pumped and dumped by elite guys with tons of side chicks, they are self reporting themselves, still have delusional standards, and still aren’t serious about finding a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:41 PM
–

I was reading askwomenover30 and some of the comments were delusional. They were complaining about apps, and were like “men know they can have a situatinshiop with pretty girls any time they want by just downloading apps.” I’m like what delusional world do you have to be in to think most guys can do that on dating apps. It helps me understand more that women literally have no conception of dating as a normal guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:26 PM
–

Modern dating with the advent of dating apps, the decline of third places, the general increase in COL, and the empowerment of women (they don't need to rely on a man for resources/money as much now) has changed the ballgame completely. Using 70 year olds in a fifty year relationships (which you are in your statisctic) as a way to prove why the dating market NOW is fine is ridiculous. Those 70 year olds grew up in a completely different culture which influenced the job market and dating substant…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:27 AM
3

Where the fuck are all of these educated single women who can’t find a man? They definitely sent swiping in me in dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 08:30 PM
2

women complain about men and men complain about women in romance. Maybe people just suck and romance is hard. Trying to form this deep romantic and emotional connection with someone, especially if you're not using social circle game, is really fucking hard. Forming a romantic connection with someone through messages on an app with six photos to start is even fucking harder. If I were trying to date guys, I bet I'd fucking hate guys sometimes too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:36 AM
–

No that’s honestly an area I can improve on. It’s not terrible I have decent well clothes, just I could improve my style for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:54 PM
–

I’ve been lifting for a few years, I have a decent amount of muscle, I’m just kinda lanky so I don’t really look jacked. It would be insanely hard for me to look jacked without gear.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:53 PM
–

Like plastic surgery? I do all the normal soft looksmaxxing stuff like skincare and the gym. I’m not sure what plastic surgery would instantly make me way more attractive and I’ve seen some people where it throws off their face. I don’t have a feature that is just out of this world bad that needs fixing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:48 PM
–

Ok that income thread people are saying that making over 100k as a guy will lead to hot women and I’m sitting over here as a 28 year old virgin making 130k like wtf where is my pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:38 PM
1

Dating advice for women is completely different than for men. Men need to get better at improving their odds of being selected (as the active players in the process), while women need to improve their ability to do the selecting (as the passive players doing the selecting) there’s no reason to ask a woman on how to get better at a man’s job because they have no idea how to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 06:03 PM
0

The vast majority of dating advice is horseshit, especially from women because they can’t really conceptualise dating from a man’s perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:39 PM
–

I am the same way and will live the same life. No one cares about you or your problems. Just enjoy life the best you can with your friends and family, and your hobbies. There's nothing else to be done. There's no answer to women not desiring you. It can't be negotiated.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 11:07 PM
3

Money in mid 30s for men in the LTR game is insanely important to success. Not quite to the level of looks but it is close. I went to this wedding with a lot of well off dudes in their 30s and you see average faces, not great fitness, bad bodies, bad hairlines, but they got that bread. And they are with some pretty attractive wives who are their age and a bit younger though, not like early 20s. Boys if you want to LTR in your 30s, get that bread!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:58 PM
1

cope, tweets matter you watched the trump admin
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 06:06 AM
0

what made you OK with doing it in the first place? Why would you do such a thing? Needed to get some experience, but couldn't get it without using escorts. Was she not a person to you, who was better than being bought for money? What do you mean, she's a professional performing a service, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 04:52 AM
1

How unethical is losing your virginity to an escort and having your only sexual experience be with escorts and not disclosing that to an LTR? Like to the grave level of not disclosing. To the woman here: If a man disclosed in an LTR relationship that he had lost his virginity to an escort and that his only sexual experience was with escorts, would that be an auto-break up?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:55 AM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

© TheRedArchive 2026. All rights reserved.
created by /u/dream-hunter