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Discussionaquamanouttawater/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 04:29 PM
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CMVaquamanouttawater/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 02:09 AM
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Discussionaquamanouttawater/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:02 PM
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Purge Discussion!aquamanouttawater/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:33 AM
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CMVaquamanouttawater/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:14 PM
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CMVaquamanouttawater/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 08:57 PM
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Purge CMV!aquamanouttawater/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:11 PM
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CMVaquamanouttawater/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:18 AM
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aquamanouttawater/r/MGTOW217/06/21 01:01 PM
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Its only delusional when they believe they’re good enough for a triple 6 guy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 11:30 AM
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If they fought against it, they’d do more than just virtue signal online. Even most feminists don’t want their boyfriends or husbands to be as open as they claim, they lose attraction and “don’t understand why, it just happened”
/r/AntiFeminists28/12/21 12:02 PM
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Ape brain tingles
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 12:28 AM
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If women are so concerned with their safety, why are they more receptive and rewarding to men who push their boundaries, yet completely lose attraction if a man is “too respectful”?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 10:28 PM
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Still more useful than wasting it on jewelry.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 06:36 PM
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Literally everything that’s considered abusive when men do it. Gaslighting, physical/emotional/verbal/mental abuse, rape/sexual assault, being controlling/jealous, constantly talking down to your partner, etc. How many women do you know that were pushed to their limit by a man to the point of taking their own life? Now ask the same thing about men who have been pushed there by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:23 PM
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Honestly, no. If you want sex, just look for hookups, but everyone has already had their fair share of shitty experiences and everyone has their guards up. No real connections can be made when everyone is hyperfocusing on your flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 01:55 PM
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To be fair, there isnt much to gain from dating either. The amount of effort isnt worth it when you look at what you have to gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 01:49 PM
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Even when you message about something in their bio, they cant even acknowledge that lol. But of course yall notice the horrible things undesirable men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 03:57 PM
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Ive tried it in the past and was always just seen as a friend. Not to mention I got burnt out trying to do this and always getting friendzoned. So Id rather not waste time getting close to women Im gonna have to inevitably drop when they reject me. Why would I want to keep them around?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 03:51 PM
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Male suicide rates are at an all time high, Im sure this current dating scene is helping speed that along when men who already dont have any outlets for help dont even have the option to date anymore and soothe the loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 03:49 PM
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Its almost like when you match with someone, you usually intend to talk to them, shocker I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 03:46 PM
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Doesn’t matter much when they don’t even reply when you match with them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 03:46 PM
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Its just a reminder women are living life on easy mode and are allowed to make insane demands of men and will still find someone to meet them, while men have to take what they can get and 9/10 the woman will be insufferable. But they have it sooo hard because the guys they choose do horrible things, yet they’re continuously given a pass to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 03:05 PM
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Well, after about a month on Tinder, Im deleting it. Even after getting matches, none of them reply and the few that do are vapid and cant come up with a message that isnt one or two words. At this point its just a reminder you’re better off avoiding women altogether than ever believing they will actually love you. Unless you’re a 10/10 or the complete package, thats all there is to look forward to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 03:02 PM
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Only if she brings traditional roles to the table herself. Otherwise, she’s just telling herself that to avoid addressing the gold digging.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 09:13 AM
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I wouldn’t wait months but I think waiting until the 3rd date isnt a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 01:14 AM
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I mean, I dont think its sacred or anything, but a woman sleeping with a man right off will definitely use sex as leverage and probably doesn’t have much else to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 04:00 PM
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Id argue women who give up sex early are more likely to manipulate you and use sex as a tool to get what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 12:48 PM
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The age will keep rising until women take responsibility for choosing to sleep with older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 06:42 PM
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They are when they basically tell men to stay closed up and carry her baggage on their backs. If the guy isn’t stoic 95% of the time, he gets dropped, meanwhile she’ll be an anxious mess constantly causing issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 05:04 PM
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I believe they do in their 30s and 40s if they spent time gathering resources, otherwise women don’t find a use for them and would rather get pumped and dumped by “bad boys”/attractive guys than settle for their looksmatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 02:17 PM
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When these women get knocked up by a bad boy or screwed over by one, they either expect an average guy to care for the kid or they start holding other men to the higher standard they should’ve held bad boys to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 02:08 PM
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The point is they prioritize looks over values until they get hurt, then average guys pay the price for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 01:49 PM
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Love was never real, people just get comfortable with those they lust over or drain resources from.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 01:51 PM
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Without sex, most people would realize how incompatible they are with their partner and would end it. It’s all lust or resource exploitation, save your wallets.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 08:00 AM
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Yes, superficial vapid people with nothing of value to say. But I agree with the “why bother,” MGTOW makes more sense then maxxing yourself out for mediocre used up pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 10:51 PM
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Cant ever tell on this sub lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 10:37 PM
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If you feel called out, thats on you. I just dont see many women offering much when they have a laundry list of demands for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 10:27 PM
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Ehh, last time I was on Bumble I got like 2 matches and neither messaged me first lol. The only time Ive ever been messaged first, its the same low effort type shit too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 09:19 PM
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I went back just to see how it was after not being on for 2 years, it honestly seems worse now than it was then lol. Like 98% of the women I see just look like thots and can’t keep a serious conversation going for nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 09:15 PM
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After being back on Tinder for a few weeks, I see what most men are talking about. Even when getting matches, most of them never engage or reply and when they do its usually short or only lasts a short amount of time before they stop replying. Meanwhile the majority of the women I see on Tinder have absolutely nothing of value to offer outside of their hole, and it shows. But lets all maxx ourselves out for these holes, guys, totatlly worth it! Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 09:11 PM
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I wish it was, but its so common in a good chunk of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:43 PM
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Thats why you drop em and tell em “good luck being a bitch and trying to meet someone worthwhile”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:25 PM
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Oh yeah. I think that plays a major role, they show their true colors with average betas then kiss ass when it comes to an alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:19 PM
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Exactly. I dont care how hot she is, I’ll never date/get in a relationship with a woman like this. If they show any of these qualities on the first date, Im done.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:12 PM
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True, but these women dont seem to be self aware that their personality is insufferable. Id rather fuck myself than fuck another entitled ass woman that bitches about everything lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:10 PM
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Entitled princess mentality, they get snarky for no reason and expect to be pampered by everyone when they don’t even give basic human respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 05:59 PM
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Well its definitely shallow lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 05:58 PM
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The difference is men get shamed for being simps while women are treated as victims when they continuously pick shitty men, basically telling them its okay to trade your self respect for hot dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 01:00 AM
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Yep, its having to sift through a couple matches at a time that are probably bad. Can’t imagine only getting one match a month and the match always being trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:20 PM
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I hadn’t been on in 2 years and thought I was below average this whole time, but I got 3 matches in the last few days and 4 other people swiped me, so I guess Im more average than I thought lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:19 PM
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Honestly, it isn’t that hard to get matches as an average guy on Tinder. Its just hard to find matches that aren’t flakes or matches who don’t have bad personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:02 PM
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They’re fucking and getting in relationships, just with women less attractive than they are or getting BB’d by a woman that most likely would reject them without the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 10:51 PM
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They do, if the guy isn’t at least an 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 07:44 PM
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That’s the direction we’re headed if women continue to earn more than men. Then it really will be 95/5 rather than 80/20.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 07:13 PM
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Thats after they get hurt by a woman and realize they can’t be the romantic women claim they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 05:06 PM
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That makes sense, people always seem to drift away and go their on routes after school. Plus our society is more individualistic than it used to be, making connections even harder to come by when one minor incompatibility can ruin everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 05:18 AM
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Not even a decade ago really, maybe just the last 6-7 years. But the main thing that changed was leaving high school and having to depend on OLD to meet new interesting people outside of my small town. Which really hasn’t led me to anyone interesting, the dates Ive been on since then have been one chaotic match after another. Either being led on, lied to, ghosted, used, etc. You can’t help but question their intentions and see what it is they really go for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 05:04 AM
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Maybe its always been this way, it just seems alot worse now because dating was alot simpler for me just a decade ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 04:28 AM
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When you realize it isn’t worth the headache it takes to get it/maintain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 02:14 AM
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r/ihavesex lmao fucking cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:22 PM
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In this case, it is. I see more women putting morals and values to the side for a hot guy than men doing the same. If anything, men are more willing to settle for an average looking woman if they mesh well. Women will put the less attractive option in the beta zone and will possibly come back in her 30s and expect to be provided for.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 07:47 PM
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Later on in life, yes. But in their teens and 20s? Hardly, unless the guy isn’t 8+
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 07:27 PM
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In their thirties, yes. For women in their 20s, looks are all that matters. Plus her biggest issue was the fact he wanted her to pay for half his meal, which tells me she’s looking for a beta provider in chads, which wont work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:52 PM
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Have a shot* that the woman will be way more critical of than when an 8 does the same thing. They dissect every little thing a 4-6 guy does, but make excuses for chad
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:20 PM
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And apparently unless you’re at least an 8, they’re not actually into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:13 PM
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Thats why its easier to just not date. Most of these women expect men to prove their worth unless they’ve got the looks. No point in rewarding golddiggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:08 PM
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Nah, the beta zone is where all the friendzoned guys who aren’t repulsive end up in. They might get a chance in their 30s when women drop the hoe phase and move on to their golddigger phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:04 PM
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Used to be, now its like a job interview where you’re expected to jump through hoops to prove your worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:02 PM
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Well yeah, if you say it like that. Most guys don’t, and if they’re beta, any little mistake is an excuse to drop them. Chad can say “lets fuck” and it won’t lead to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:52 PM
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Really depends. Some of these women will do that, then when you mention sex they act like that’s all you want and bail. They’ll even initiate the conversation then use it against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:07 PM
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Yep. Love is dead, its all transactional. Which begs the question, why even bother committing when casual sex comes easier and marriage is just prostitution with more steps.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 02:14 PM
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I can see your point, but most of these men plan on finding a woman to fill that position.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 03:46 AM
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That’s true, but for women the personalities they find acceptable romantically/sexually are limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 01:44 PM
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True, there’s always the extremes on both sides, but it is a valid fear to worry about being used for your money/sex, being cheated on, being dumped for someone better, etc. so going into it skeptical only seems logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 04:37 AM
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Same, I usually specify “straight women” when talking to friends about it because I’m still willing to interact with women in a friendly way, just skeptical romantically/sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 03:06 AM
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I think most of what is perceived as hate is just someone’s natural reaction to trying to preserve themselves from getting hurt. It’s easier to see it as hate on the other side, but see it as preservation from your own side.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 03:03 AM
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Id say the whole idea of “game” is superficial because it basically says you have to act in this one certain way just to be seen as attractive by women. You’re not allowed to be yourself unless you completely change yourself into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 08:51 PM
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Wow, so many assumptions yet none of them are correct. Finding myself led me to these beliefs, otherwise Id still be a simp “looking for love” which apparently doesn’t exist outside of lust and resource exploitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:16 PM
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Well when all this virtue signaling actually brings results and women are held accountable the same way men are, Ill agree. Until then, Im not seeing campaigns to cancel cheating women, to cancel abusive women, none of that. Women wont allow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:49 PM
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I don’t wonder why Im single lmao, I know Im single because I lack in looks and money, and didn’t have the positive reinforcement that makes people want to strive to meet those standards. This is my way of not having to risk getting fucked over by another bitch ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:42 PM
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Because Ive heard too many women bitch and moan about getting used just for them to go do it to the betas then put themselves back in those same situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:40 PM
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Like women aren’t petty af all the time with men? Ya’ll expect men to support your problems, then ignore when women cause problems for us. Ya’ll brought it on yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 02:46 PM
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AI and sex robots can’t make up for real attraction or real desire, the only people who seem to think it works also believe “the only thing guys care about is sex!”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 02:07 PM
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I don’t do it either, Im just not gonna shame men who do it when Ive seen women do it myself. Women do it to men all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:29 PM
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No, its pointing out how this virtue signaling of “well when women do it, its bad too” isn’t actually taken seriously and is usually justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:28 PM
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If its wrong when they do it, why do they always find a way to justify it or call a guy sexist or something for having a problem with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:22 PM
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Literally never seen a rapist expect sympathy lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 03:43 PM
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Lmao, but when y’all choose cheaters and abusers, y’all expect endless sympathy and reimbursement from the government.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 03:21 PM
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Once again putting words into my mouth and forming arguments based on that. Of course divorce isn’t comparable to actual rape, Im talking about women are more likely to divorce a man to steal his shit than a man is to rape a woman. Its verifiable in the amount of divorces recorded vs rapes in a given year.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 03:14 PM
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Lmao, there are less rapists than manipulative women. Men are way more likely to get divorce raped than women are likely to get raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:40 PM
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Every single woman Ive ever met has no issue with manipulating and using men to get what they want. Then when guys point this out, they justify it or gaslight the man for pointing it out. You can ignore reality all you want, but I know for a fact women are natural emotional manipulators and its a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:53 PM
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Yes, but its not the same when its only a small minority of women and the majority of them wear makeup, but don’t want a man who does.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:17 PM
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Lmao, the complete lack of self awareness in how you criticize men for their standards and justify the unrealistic standards of women. You’re either bluepilled af or a typical gaslighting foid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:10 PM
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True that’s more of a blackpill talking point, but my point still stands. Expecting men to still make more than you when you have the ability to work yourself is unrealistic. Expecting the majority of men to meet the standards that only the minority can is unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:55 PM
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Its funny how your whole premise is how wrong redpill is when thats basically what they say about women, that looks matter. Plus you ignore how men are expected to make more than the women they date, when most women make as much as or more than men now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:48 PM
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Lmao, yes thats the most likely case, that the majority of men just don’t take care of themselves. Couldn’t possibly be that women have unrealistic expectations of men that only a few men meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:37 PM
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Nah, not even close. Maybe for short term, but never for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:31 PM
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Reread it, I said above average men. Average women approach dating like above average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:31 PM
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Its funny how ya’ll act like men have all the power when 80% of men are considered inadequate lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:30 PM
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Yep, and they get cheated on/divorce raped by said women. Both BB and bimbo women are the same, they just have different but similar ways to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:21 PM
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Don’t hate yourself if you’re not good enough for most women in your teens/20s. You’ll realize eventually that most of them are insufferable romantically/sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:19 PM
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Your options as a man are bimbos or getting BB’d. There doesn’t seem to be much else between those 2 categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:16 PM
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Thats actually pretty good lol, but its like a middle school math moment “look what I spelled”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:13 PM
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Im afraid to ask, but what does 304 mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:01 PM
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Weed, shrooms, acid/LSD
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:59 PM
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The left looks like just about every e-girl’s fiancé and the right looks like her exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:24 PM
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“I can change him!” Seriously though, Ive never seen a more accurate representation of AF/BB
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:19 PM
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But I thought it was because they do what they want because they’re strong and independent and don’t need no man!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:13 PM
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Of course they don’t ask men to, they want natural beauty from men. Men aren’t demanding these things either, if anything they’re tired of being misled to believe women are more attractive than they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:08 PM
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Men don’t paint their face or wear wigs and still get seen as attractive. Men who wear makeup/wigs are shamed by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:59 PM
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Do you not see the issue in one side dressing up as if they’re attractive and the other being born attractive being seen as equally attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:50 PM
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Well every woman I’ve met manipulates and uses men like it’s no issue. Can’t say the same for men, only men ya’ll are drawn to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:41 PM
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Thats my main issue, they get away with it. They’re never held accountable while pushing the narrative that men need to be held more accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:34 PM
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Because you’re a woman, your suggested posts won’t be thirst posts. I don’t even follow random thots and Im always seeing thirst trap posts by women I went to high school with or met in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:28 PM
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It seems to be female nature to manipulate and gaslight, they’re natural emotional/mental abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:23 PM
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They do by women, where women won’t allow men to shame manipulative sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:18 PM
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I’ll take Uninspired Strawmanning of Everyone’s Takes for 1000
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:17 PM
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Yes, a good chunk of men are jealous of the Chads, I’ll agree with that. I just think its less than what women want everyone to think and that a lot of these guys are just genuinely lonely and frustrated. The average woman approaches dating the same way a Chad does.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:01 PM
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I agree, men should do the ol Uno Reverse and start holding women to unrealistic standards. Don’t settle for being used for your money, don’t support former sluts who finally “found their worth,” don’t settle for women that will use you for resource exploitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:56 PM
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Ive noticed this trend in the last decade of women attacking men and just painting them all as entitled for even wanting love and companionship, when nothing in their language even indicates that its about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:52 PM
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So men never want love or companionship, its ALL about sex? Do you not see how dehumanizing that is? That’s the message posts like this get across. Its basically “shut up, men, you’re just entitled for having basic human desires and feeling frustrated that your options are as limited as they are.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:51 PM
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I can agree there, I have seen some of the cringy incel shit since purge week started. I just notice a lot of women use this argument to try shutting men up who are just venting their frustrations about modern dating and how one sided it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:46 PM
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My only issue is how onesided abortion and child support laws are. I also have an issue with women evading personal responsibility in practically every area of life and running to the government expecting them to take care of everything. Other than that, abort away.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:43 PM
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Of course they don’t, but if she does then they’re forced to pay child support. So either way women win.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:40 PM
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Of course people like Chris Chan exist, but equating every man here who bitches about women to that is probably the biggest strawman I’ve ever seen. Personally, I don’t feel entitled to sex nor do I demand it from women. My biggest issue is how disrespectful, manipulative, and just overall toxic the modern woman is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:35 PM
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They feel entitled to have their slut phase while also evading the basic biological reaction to being creampied by numerous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:30 PM
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They never outright claim they feel entitled to sex, women just dehumanize male struggles and make it all about sex to paint men as superficial as they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:28 PM
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Seriously, the only reason the majority of women are considered attractive is because of makeup and plastic surgery. They expect natural beauty from men, yet can’t even bring that to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:26 PM
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Proof you never know what you’re talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:25 PM
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Thats all she ever does lmao, she just hates men who call out the toxicity of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:24 PM
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How many men actually feel entitled to sex and aren’t just venting frustrations about toxic sluts and their unrealistic standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:20 PM
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I’ll agree with that. Though romantically/sexually, they’re devoid of any real morals or values.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:37 PM
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No, because I’ve already heard the numerous excuses women come up with to justify staying with an abuser, or always going back to an abuser. And unless her life is actually dependent on staying with that man, like financially or just nowhere else to go, she’s choosing to stay and trying to rationalize staying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:32 PM
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I do, but I don’t think women are completely out of control of their own lives to the point that they couldn’t drop these guys and date someone else. But they all want the absolute best they can get and make excuses for the hottest/richest guys because that’s their only measure of how worthwhile a man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:24 PM
1

And your reasoning to justify not leaving a toxic person isn’t purely anecdotal damage control?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:58 PM
1

Ive seen myself how women will put up with so much from hot/rich guys but drop the average joe over the slightest inconvenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:53 PM
1

Its easy to notice if you don’t fall for tingles and ignore red flags, but we all know how women will let those red flags fly when he’s hot/rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:39 PM
2

How would a citation for this originate? Like I said, they make excuses for their abusive behavior. They wont admit when they’re doing something toxic/abusive, but they’ll notice it when its being done to them because they already do it so much themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:38 PM
3

And I saw girls flock to make fun of awkward unattractive dudes anytime they did something embarrassing all throughout my years in school.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:36 PM
1

Probably not that you’re aware of, but women always find a way to get what they want, usually through manipulative “signals”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:04 AM
3

Most of these things come natural to women, making it much more common in women. In fact, they don’t even hide their manipulative and abusive tendencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:54 AM
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And ya’ll are more receptive and rewarding to shitty men. Not my fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:15 AM
1

Ohh, I feel dumb for not understanding that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:00 AM
3

Well, if y’all would stop choosing to be around awful men, you wouldn’t hate them so much. Meanwhile a majority of women are toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:59 AM
2

Tomato can?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:36 AM
2

I already do lmao, I say this to spread the word and warn other men who get suckered into their traps.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:32 AM
5

They can physically abuse if they know the guy won’t react. Because they know the cops won’t think its them doing the abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:48 AM
2

Lmao, Ive had women cheat on me and say they weren’t. Y’all just love to conveniently ignore those women or justify it with “daddy problems”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:43 AM
2

You act like women never do this when they give Billy Beta a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:38 AM
0

Literally every Lilith post gets approved, but 90% of male posts are screened because “LoW EfFoRt”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:24 AM
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Because they never add anything worthwhile to a relationship, they just take.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:00 AM
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Women’s measure of flaws are way more strict than what men see as flaws. They expect men to look a certain way, act a certain way, make a certain amount of money. And if they’re lacking in any of those and cant make up for it with the others, they’re dropped.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 04:31 PM
0

I didn’t realize women were children that lacked autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 12:45 PM
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Nothing I said even implied I felt entitled to sex. Yall just think men feel entitled to sex because the men yall choose use yall for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 10:56 AM
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Considering they go out of their way to pick abusers and make excuses for staying with them, Id say that’s all on them. Until they stop rewarding terrible men, I have no reason to feel sorry for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 10:31 AM
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That’s more a sign of male desperation than a lack of morals though. Women have the option to date good guys and still don’t, not many men have the luxury of having multiple options at one given time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 05:08 AM
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Personally, knowing women are willing to risk abuse just for tingles is enough to disgust me from even wanting to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 03:11 AM
1

But where am I wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 11:55 PM
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I dont, I dropped out of dating awhile ago. I just get tired of the virtue signaling
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 11:49 PM
1

There’s a difference between taking care of yourself and trying to meet some superficial standards just because women have more options now and demand unrealistic things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 08:06 PM
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I suppose he could change his entire personality just to be what women want. Still proves my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 07:47 PM
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Unless he’s physically or financially attractive, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 07:40 PM
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It is to women. They want neurotypical extroverted men, but are willing to settle for an introverted man when they’re looking for the buxx.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 07:32 PM
2

The definition of unattractive IS not attractive lmao what
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 07:27 PM
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Personally I believe their attraction is purely superficial and they justify the abuse because he meets their superficial standards. They don’t apply any morals or values to dating, only “how hot/how rich is he?”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 07:25 PM
1

Exactly lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 07:23 PM
5

They don’t, but they deny that women are unattracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 07:10 PM
4

Maybe not in a direct way, but by staying with/sleeping with abusive men, they’re basically saying they’re doing something right. Where as when they leave a man for being “too shy/too timid,” they’re saying he did something wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 06:29 PM
2

You actually expect men to feel sorry for women who actively seek out and reward terrible men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:54 PM
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There’s a difference in acting narcissistic and having NPD. What’s considered “high self esteem” is narcissistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:41 PM
3

Where are all these conclusions you keep coming to?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:36 PM
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What did I say that wasn’t factual? Saying women are just as/more narcissistic than men isn’t less factual than your generalization that men are more narcissistic. Its a fact men don’t have nearly half the resources women do when it comes to abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:35 PM
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I can definitely relate with this, man. People don’t want to acknowledge how revealing and damaging it is to be dumped for an abusive partner and watch them stay with them for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:30 PM
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Id argue what’s considered “Stockholm syndrome” is another evasive tactic to avoid the personal responsibility attached with choosing shitty partners. Its different when its once or twice. When they continue dating abusive men when they’re aware of the signs? Its an evasion of responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:27 PM
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The internet has made it known that women are just as narcissistic if not more than men. They also get away with much more abuse than men, since men have no real safe space to go when it comes to their victimization and are laughed off.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:22 PM
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You’re drawing the wrong conclusions, I never said it was because they want abusive men. I said they’re more lenient with abusive behavior than shy/timid behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:13 PM
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Well we already had a thread about women’s disdain for shy introverted men. It was partly the inspiration for this post, and a way to compare the way they treat these two groups of men differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:04 PM
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Im not, Im making a general comparison in how women treat two different groups of men. And from experience and just observing their actions, they’re more willing to drop an introverted/shy guy over an abusive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:01 PM
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But they choose to stay. For months/years. Even when they have an inbox full of safer options.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 04:56 PM
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That’s what most women will say, but if he’s visually appealing they’ll let his red flags slide.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 04:56 PM
10

And when the introverted man does put himself out there and get a date, the women are less receptive to his attempts than they are with openly arrogant/narcissistic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 04:53 PM
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But they stay and ignore these qualities while virtue signaling online about how awful abusive men are
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 04:52 PM
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Your entire argument is based on the idea that introverted/shy men just aren’t putting themselves out there. In my own personal experience as an introverted man, even when given a chance, these women are more likely to drop me for being reserved, but willing to stay with the men they complain about for months/years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 04:50 PM
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I see people make this argument all the time, but in my experience, even when the introverted man is given a chance, they’re still more likely to leave him for a man with narcissistic/abusive qualities. Even when introverted men make themselves known, they’re less valued than a manipulative abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 04:48 PM
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It doesn’t though, its making a comparison of two behaviors: one women are willing to accept yet demonize, and one they’re completely unattracted to yet say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 04:40 PM
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I guess I should rephrase it as why do they *stay
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 04:37 PM
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Its not the opposite, Im making a comparison of how they’re disgusted by this behavior, but say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 04:36 PM
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Of course they can be, but why do women choose openly abusive men or men who they’re warned about?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 04:34 PM
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I think the major difference here is how women rate a man’s emotional responses to a woman’s emotional responses. They’re less lenient with men than they are with women. What they call “emotional dumping” from men is “venting” when it comes to their female friends. I wouldn’t say being a full on stoic is preferred, but keeping all negative emotions to yourself seems to be what women expect from men so you’re stable enough to deal with their problems/their “venting”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 09:38 PM
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Nobody says women shouldn’t work. They just acknowledge that women being able to work has significantly dropped the number of options an average man has in dating. They resent modern women who feel entitled to handouts because they could go work and earn their own money, but would rather enforce the outdated standards that only benefit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 04:09 PM
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Which is what leads many guys to TRP and MGTOW. Realizing all this talk about “good men” is measured only on how attractive or successful that man is. Realizing women will take back cheaters/abusers but will leave a guy early on just for being shy is extremely revealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 11:31 AM
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Because they take their frustrations with chads out on betas and cels. Average/below average dudes take all the flack for what the hot guys get away with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 01:36 PM
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Not at all. Maybe if the guy is in an area where he can meet different types of people, but it’ll still just be 95% rejection and the other 5% being successfully going on dates with women with awful personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 11:17 AM
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Yep. Though I don’t suggest it to anyone. 2 were too pushy and the other was just a psychotic slut, she had like 4 guys she was sleeping with and lying to while dating this other guy and using him because he had his own place (which she slept with me in). Really exposes you to how absolutely awful women can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 06:35 PM
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Id say Im below average and still managed to have casual sex. Its just you’re expected to settle for the absolute bottom of the barrel women, even women who are less attractive than you. So its not really worth it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 03:24 PM
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Its like every day we find out just how wrong that “sugar and spice and everything nice” conditioning was. Seems women are just as horrible as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 12:38 PM
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Based mindset, going your own way is the best way to enjoy the decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 10:54 AM
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I wouldn’t say that applies to all unattractive people. Im the first to admit Im below average or average at best, its only the self absorbed narcissistic types that think they’re a catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:00 PM
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Id say some do, but most realize it’s not realistic to expect it in these times. Though men are still expected to abide by the same traditional standards as the 1950’s, just with better looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 03:58 AM
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You’re right, Im not advocating for that. But nobody’s freaking out about the women who do the same thing and try to cancel guys or accuse them of SA if they say no. Its got its own subreddit, but you’ll never see stories about it in the mainstream. Women are more emotional, don’t you think they’d eventually snap after all that frustration and virtue signaling/mixed signals they were fed by men growing up, if it wasnt getting results?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 12:38 AM
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I feel like women would be more understanding and less critical of men’s reactions to rejection if they had to experience as many rejections as they expect men to put up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:19 PM
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Or they’ve witnessed so much virtue signaling and hypocrisy that they’re tired of the BS. And its pretty much everywhere, every female friend I ever had gave the same “be yourself” cookie cutter advice that helps absolutely no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:09 PM
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Ive noticed most men who lean toward the TRP did or still have female friends. They noticed the hypocrisy in the things they said vs the things they did, they noticed all the virtue signaling and pandering. If these women were as helpful as you claim, most probably wouldn’t have turned to TRP. Having female friends is usually just a giant blackpill for the average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:01 PM
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“Victim blamed” in what way are you a victim for a man being upset about you thinking he’s beneath you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 06:36 PM
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Im 25M, probably in the bottom 30%. I don’t want to date materialistic women, and that seems to be like 85%, add on top of that bad attitudes, superficiality, and being a single mom, and Id have to say its unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 12:24 PM
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25M, INFP, started out bluepill but have become blackpill over time, with some redpills here and there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 11:13 AM
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With their girls. They usually say they feel like that can’t be themselves around their girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 12:21 AM
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Personally, I never have just because I prefer to spend different time with different people. Plus I usually don’t want to hangout with them while they’re in relationships because they usually act different compared to just friend time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 02:32 PM
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I don’t agree most men know both sides, but I do think most men are aware of the way women make a difference in them. And its led to many men settling for women less attractive than them just so they can feel as desirable as a chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 04:42 PM
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They really be using some tentacle looking or dragon tail looking type shit, then blame men when regular dick just doesn’t cut it lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:54 PM
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Or replicate something better, have you seen the sex toys women use?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:41 PM
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The word you’re looking for is volcel, but that would imply they still had an incel mindset, which most don’t. Though there are some undeniable black pills.
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 04:26 PM
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Only those that are built on resource exploitation. If both parties are “in lust,” it’ll last as long as a more attractive party doesn’t come into the picture. They’re loyal to opportunity, thats it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 11:47 AM
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But thats just in a given area. And that great woman probably already has a boyfriend, or insanely high standards. So you’re stuck dealing with not so great women or just not dating at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 01:06 AM
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“Everywhere” is pretty much 1/50
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 12:58 AM
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Exactly. Thats my main issue, that most of these women still expect the same traditional benefits but without any of the responsibilities that came with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 08:19 PM
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The basic message is if women don’t benefit, its bad and perverted. If there’s an opportunity for them to find, then its suddenly “empowering.” But the empowerment is really just feeling powerful over exploiting stupid men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 06:46 PM
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Its taboo in the sense that feminists don’t like it, but women are really not held to a societal standard. The modern message is women “should be” strong and independent, but its really not expected. They can be submissive, dominant, independent, codependent, etc. and nobody’s allowed to really say a thing unless its praise for whichever direction they choose
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 06:43 PM
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Oh right, men should just go for fat or ugly women if they’re not financially good enough for their looksmatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 05:31 PM
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Yes, because you have a plethora of options of men who prefer skinny women. The same cant be said for 80% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 05:10 PM
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Thats not what Im saying, Im saying men living with the bare minimum isn’t enough for most women. Men can have just a TV, table, and couch in their living room and women will think he’s not doing enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 04:11 PM
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Yes, but their peak is based on when women start settling for money, not when the guy is actually wanted for his looks. Just because a man starts getting attention, it isn’t the same as the lustful experiences men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 03:33 PM
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That just reinforces that women are higher maintenance than men. What women rate as “not taking care of themselves” could mean anything. Men can live minimalistic off a low income job and be happy, but women will find an issue with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 03:30 PM
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Same way with sex, when the guys having the most sex are valued more at the peak of their sexuality, not in their 30s when they have money. Telling men not to care about money or sex won’t matter until women stop caring too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 01:28 PM
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Well said, I find alot of these left leaning feminist types who claim to be anticapitalist will also play into the capitalist class system and call men broke or lazy for being blue collar, but call the dude with the office job “motivated” and “ambitious.” Hard work is based on the amount of money you make in the eyes of most women today.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 01:07 PM
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Why would a man want to provide for a modern woman who can go earn her money herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 03:04 PM
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“Young love” is overrated and purely based on lust. Even in adulthood, love is mostly based on lust, then it starts becoming based on resource exploitation and providing an opportunity to take advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:33 PM
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The whole idea of being “anti gender roles” was just so women could completely drop theirs and still gain all the previous benefits that came with them. “BuT aT lEaSt He GeTs LaiD”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:44 AM
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The type that makes money for them to take advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:42 AM
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Exactly. There’s a difference in a cold approach rejection and having months of interactions where they intentionally lead you on or avoid telling the truth out of cowardice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:04 AM
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Yep, were held to the same standards as men in the 50’s, but with higher looks and financial requirements. While men are expected to expect nothing in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 11:03 PM
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Yep. Women genuinely believe its a viable option for men because they only picture the type of guys they want being their friend first. Hell, they shame men for not taking rejection well, and expect them to experience 100+ rejections and not get bitter, to accept being “just friends” every time. Why would a guy want all these female friends when his needs aren’t gonna be met?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 10:57 PM
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I agree, Im in the same boat myself after many experiences with women like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:34 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:42 AM
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But they have more options than men and could easily filter them out if they actually applied their values to them. Men are forced to go years without dates if they stick to their morals, then when they meet someone worthwhile, it could go downhill if he isn’t as experienced as she wants
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:06 PM
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No, Im saying the female equivalent of fuckboys are hardly picked first by men who have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:48 PM
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So, a man who’s only options are crazy BPD types, how do you expect him to gain enough experience to attract a woman worthwhile?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:39 PM
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Follow up: if men aren’t “forced” to date crazy, how do you expect them to gain the experience women expect them to already have?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:18 PM
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I think they realize the past situation put them at a disadvantage, and since our current society gave them the advantage over men, they’ll happily take it. Now they can use attractive men for sex and nonattractive friendzoned men for emotional validation, so they never really have to experience true loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 02:08 PM
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To put it in terms you can understand, if women’s options were as restricted as men’s, and they were expected to be the more experienced party, would you fault them for giving every guy a chance to learn male nature from them, or is it just a double standard you hold against men? Because you’re trying to hold them in the same regard and it’s like comparing a rich person complaining about fast food to a poor person who can only afford a $1 cheeseburger. Sure the rich person can complain about fas…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:54 PM
1

Yet don’t women expect men to serve them with resources?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 07:40 AM
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Taking control of yourself also means coming to the realization you don’t want/need most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:32 PM
1

So we just excuse immoral behavior from women, but see them as victims when they choose bad men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:48 PM
1

Woman gives man a chance. Finds out the man is more well off than he lets on. She lovebombs him and makes herself appear as a unicorn to get this man to commit. This man thinks he found true love while this woman increasingly blows his resources, eventually using manipulation and gaslighting to get her way. Eventually she divorces him and is able to steal his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 02:54 PM
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It will if you’re only considered average. Because they’ll always leave to upgrade, while expecting men to keep up with their constantly rising standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 02:04 PM
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I know you’re joking, but it takes getting hurt multiple times to see through the mind games and manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 01:49 PM
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Its already implied these ugly/poor men who have success would only be successful with insecure women, why else would a woman settle for a guy like this if she had options? It sure isn’t “true love.” Both parties need something to exploit to be “in love”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:20 AM
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Its proven divorce rates go down the higher the salary goes. Its pretty much implied the rates would go down the more attractive they are. And I didn’t say lack of money or looks causes the insecurity, Im saying most ugly/poor men who have success will usually only have success with insecure women. Or that a man who’s insecure, regardless of money, will have women target him. Or on the flip side, a man targets an insecure woman for lustful reasons. Both insecure parties are being exploited under…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:14 AM
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It is when it’s given under false pretenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 05:15 AM
1

Id argue pragmatic love is a grey area, as both lust and resource exploitation can lead people to believe its pragmatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:04 AM
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I agree, if the other party wants them to be, its beneficial. Thats why I mentioned insecure attachment, where men take advantage of a woman’s desire for love because of their own lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:47 PM
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But its only beneficial to both parties when its lustful. The latter are built on exploiting one party’s desire for love to take advantage of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:42 PM
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The lustful relationships are mutually beneficial, unless its toxic. The ones based on resource exploitation, one benefits while the other one only thinks they found “true love.” Same applies when its someone taking advantage of the insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:34 PM
1

Of course men value them, women don’t value them enough to give it to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:15 PM
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Of course they were, but at least they were beneficial to both parties. Nowadays a man needs 6 figures just to be good enough for women who don’t cook, don’t clean, don’t want kids, etc. All for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:30 PM
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Its all transactional now. Either have the looks, or settle for getting leeched off of. Yet what do the men get out of it? Just sex. And even then, sex isn’t viewed as a mutual thing, its seen as a reward for doing what they want you to do. Men are held to traditional gender roles while holding women to their gender roles is misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:05 PM
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Then they’ll post for days about how men are trash lol. They’ll follow older women’s advice to give a beta provider a chance then realize they’re unattracted to him, just to fall back into the fuckboy cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:47 PM
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Men hold the burden of pursuing, but that doesn’t mean they get to vet through 10+ women at any given time. They’re forced to go on shitty dates just to gain experience, otherwise their lack of experience is used against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:41 PM
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That’s also true, but when women expect a man to have experience, how else will he get it if he doesn’t have much say in his options?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:40 PM
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Im pretty RP, and I dont want to be a fuckboy. If anything, Id rather see women practice what they preach and stop rewarding fuckboy behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:30 PM
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Women don’t say those fuckboys aren’t shit until they get pumped and dumped. They’ll continue to say that after and continue to get with the same type of fuckboys. Its another case of “watch their actions, not their words”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:23 PM
42

Because its not just about employing different standards based on wanting something long term. They treat the fuckboys with much more kindness and respect than they treat the beta provider. They hold sex over the beta provider’s head while they’ll sleep with a fuckboy in the car on the first date. They’ll bend over backwards doing what the fuckboy wants but the beta provider has to provide his money just to have a happy worthwhile relationship. The dynamic is completely different, it isn’t just …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:03 PM
31

So its the fault of men if they end up with these women, even though they don’t even have 1/10 of the options women do. But women are the victims when they repeatedly let fuckboys pump and dump them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:59 AM
45

In my experience, most women will drop their standards just to be with a hot fuckboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:51 AM
16

No, I say this as a man who doesn’t want to be with a woman that leeches off of me that also uses sex to get what she wants. Women use sex as a “reward” for these beta providers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:47 AM
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Except they usually put out to the fuckboys and make the beta providers wait. That’s the pattern men notice. What, did they actually believe the fuckboy was different from the other guys he acts like?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:30 AM
3

It’s only a factor because women expect more than they offer themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:03 AM
3

Probably because that’s all modern women have to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:02 AM
2

I was actually considering getting a Casiotone this Friday!
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 05:21 AM
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People wouldn’t have to tout common sense if it wasn’t denied so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 03:51 AM
5

Exactly. Just another example of shilling to Reddit’s pro FDS/bluepill teachings. But we MUST delete anything relating to incels just to prevent a ban lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 06:04 PM
9

I find it funny how she removed 2 of my posts for those exact reasons, yet allows it when its women talking about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 01:56 PM
10

Where’s Mrs Drgree for posts like this, hmm?? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 12:51 PM
3

I just turned 25 this week. After a bad burn and many burns in the past, I decided to give up on dating and focus on myself and my own interest. That part of me that still wants to date is there, but I also don’t think I could/should date with how I see things now.
/r/MGTOW217/06/21 02:27 PM
1

And how do you propose a bunch of men who lacked real stable father figures to “become men” after the white knight conditioning and teaching them men and women are all equal? Because as it is, men aren’t finding out the truth until they leave high school and realize nobody actually gives a shit about them. Thats why the discussions even happen, the social conditioning can’t be undone, there has to be a new solution. The typical “pull yourself up by your bootstraps/be a man!” bullshit cant apply …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:24 PM
1

So you have nothing at all to add to the discussion except chest beating and “it iz wut it iz”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:15 PM
1

Typical boomer response but okay lol, so fuck fair. How does this not point right back at female entitlement and hypergamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:59 PM
1

Im not denying guys like this exist, you see them everywhere. But its not fair at all for you or women to assume every man living with his parents is like that. And its not just sons, either, look at all the overgrown daddys girls who do the same thing. The only difference? They’re still able to get laid. It always comes back to female entitlement and hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:36 PM
1

No, thats your own assumption based on your own arrogance that’s built up over “making it on your own”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:29 PM
1

Sure, a man living with his parents NOT working is pathetic. But were not talking about that, a lot of guys do have jobs and still live with their parents. Whats the issue if its more cost effective for them, they help with bills, and the parents don’t mind? I mean it personally just sounds like classist BS and typical male chest beating/dong slinging like “I have this, you dont, you suck”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:19 PM
1

So because you were forced to make it on your own, you feel any man who doesn’t is beneath you and the modern woman, and not a product of the environment? I mean, when you grow up in poverty, you either become completely money driven, or find little to no value in money and only need the essentials to get by.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:11 PM
2

And Im assuming you gave them a middle class/upper middle class lifestyle, correct? How many of these dudes were born in poverty/low income households? Its easy to judge if you haven’t been there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:05 PM
5

From 2007-2017, it definitely was and has only gotten worse. And how many of those men had a chance with women to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 08:50 PM
15

Exactly, its alot more responsible than moving out and “playing adult” temporarily until you can no longer afford to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 06:08 PM
12

Exactly. We can’t teach boys that women and men are equal then once they hit 18 expect them to reach higher standards than an 18 year old woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 04:32 PM
3

Or it has to do with their assumptions that men who play video games are losers and that video games are a waste of time. You do realize it takes money to maintain these hobbies right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 04:27 PM
8

Oh right, “playing vidya games.” That has nothing to do with the way women view male gamers at all, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:53 PM
10

Nobody said it was. But acting like its all the fault of men if they can’t get laid ignores a whole other section of the issue, which is female expectations of men and how they expect more than they offer. The fact a low income woman who grew up in poverty feels entitled to an upper class/upper middle class man is proof of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:47 PM
17

Yeah, gender roles for men. Women can be responsible/irresponsible, mature/immature, introverted/extroverted and none of it effects their ability to get laid. Again, hypergamy and female entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:28 PM
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Noone said they had to, but why is that burden still on the shoulders of men when women live at home and men don’t see it as an issue? Like I said, entitlement. Hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:25 PM
35

If the economy is suffering, it isn’t that much of a stretch for men to continue living with their parents. Seems the issue is the entitlement of the modern woman to find a man “with his shit together” in an economy that just won’t allow it if you start out at the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:22 PM
5

From your earlier replies, you made it sound like you want to be with a HVM
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:51 PM
4

I did listen to you, Im saying if you end up old and alone, you can only blame yourself for not realizing your place in the sexual market.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:34 PM
6

Sure, you can prefer them. But you’re just making it harder on yourself, it isn’t the fault of men if you never end up with one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:29 PM
4

You’re literally just trying to justify your preference for men out of your league at this point. These men pursue because they believe they will get easy sex when they do because its worked in the past for them. There’s no fatphobic man hovering over society judging people for dating fat people, its just people with options prefer to commit to their best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:15 PM
4

Yeah, there’s obviously the loudest in the room, but its pretty obvious when these women try flirting with attractive men that they think they have a chance with attractive men. Especially if they’ve ever hooked up with a guy like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:08 PM
3

Some of them are, but I think fat men are a lot more self aware that they aren’t attractive to thin women as opposed to fat women being attractive to thin men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:01 PM
4

Thats called virtue signaling. Ask them how many of them would date a fat man, you’ll find out what they really think lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:34 PM
1

Most women only think they surpass men because they’re surrounded by desperate men inflating their ego. And what’s your excuse? You seem to make multiple posts here a day, I figured a HVW like yourself would be too busy replying to texts to waste your precious time here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:32 PM
2

Yes, but the change was inevitable. The internet is partially to blame but this was building up for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:16 PM
4

I predict love won’t even exist and it’ll all be transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:38 PM
1

Because the physical ideal is nearly impossible, to the point of dehydration and starvation. Women can paint their face and go up 2-4 points.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:33 PM
3

You act like Im just another virgin who’s too nervous to even look at a woman. Ive had enough experiences with women to know what I do and dont like, and in my experience, I see alot of things I dont like and feel I shouldn’t have to accept
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:28 PM
1

Nobody should have to settle. But more men are settling now than women because its women who have all the options.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:27 PM
3

Yes, you can really tell that from 2 sentences lmao. Talk about projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:26 PM
1

It really hasn’t, especially in low income areas. Its just the women in these low income areas now have the option to date up so they require it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:25 PM
0

Ive seen many women on here admit to having ONS with guys they wouldn’t date based on incompatible personalities, so that really isn’t a male thing anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:24 PM
4

Like yall didn’t have a whole body positivity movement to normalize morbid obesity lmao. The standards held against yall have always been reachable, the body standards are mostly enforced by other women. The standards held against men are so unrealistic, only a few actually meet them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:22 PM
4

Lol, not even an incel. Just very unhappy with my own experiences with women in dating and just socializing with them in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:20 PM
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What leverage do men have over women to make them want to reach that ideal? Little to none. The leverage women have over men is why men are being forced to try living up to this ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:19 PM
4

I think it has more to do with the overflow with options. Women feel they shouldn’t have to settle now that some chad could hit them up later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:59 PM
4

That’s what makes it feel so boxed in.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:54 PM
18

I don’t think Jack Black would be as successful without his status and money. His personality and humor are attractive, but that isn’t enough in the long run, or in the current dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:49 PM
2

I agree, though I do think with the rise of feminism, this was inevitable with or without the internet. The current wave of feminism was rising in the 60s, by the 70s there were plenty of man hating women who had lists of demands. While not every woman hates men now, the list of demands still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:48 PM
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What’s sad is they’re now disgusted by fat men lmao, the complete lack of self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:33 PM
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Body positivity only applied to women. Thats why a majority of fat women now prefer skinny guys, because they feel entitled to these men when everywhere they go says they’re perfect just the way they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:28 PM
1

Yes, but what’s considered “initial attraction” is where its most rigid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:15 PM
3

The desire for these men was always there. The need to settle down for less has just dwindled thanks to the unlimited options.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:12 PM
1

Sure, to the older generations and those trying to live up to their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:08 PM
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I understand what you’re saying, but look what was building up to this. Look at the rise in standards for men in the media from the 60s to 80s, by the 90s it was in full effect and getting worse. These were always the men that women wanted. Social media and dating apps just made it seem more realistic to want these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:07 PM
2

Rich men are dating/marrying poor women now. And I don’t, and alot of women see that as an issue. Having a job isn’t good enough, gotta have a “steady career/income”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:05 PM
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The internet allowed what was already happening to fester and get worse. The rise of media from the 60s to 80s set the groundwork for the unrealistic standards held against men today.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:02 PM
2

The internet made it somewhat more acceptable for men to opt out now that they can go online and see all the horrible stories, combined with their own horrible experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:59 PM
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I somewhat agree. I think it depends on the culture of your area, but in conservative areas I see alot of average/below average looking guys do well just because they careermaxxed or came from a rich family. In fact, most of the guys I know that are already married came from money or had the looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:57 PM
2

The argument isn’t that men can’t have different interests, its that they all have to have certain qualities or attributes to even be considered an option, and wine tasting or motorcycle riding isn’t one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:20 PM
2

Im going after bimbos? You don’t even know me, you’re assuming and projecting based on your own experiences with chads. I started dating at 15, everyone Ive fallen for, I had things in common with. But those I fell for always wanted the guys with the same interest that were more attractive or came from rich families. Hell, 80% of the time they’d go for guys who were the exact opposite of what they said they wanted. The girls I ended up with were the same way, they gave me a chance and would leav…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:17 PM
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Lol nah, guys just get tired of jumping through 100 hoops to impress a woman that maybe jumps through 5 of our hoops. Not to mention the amount of effort yall expect out of men compared to the amount of effort yall put in. Maybe stop chasing chads who dont have to put in any effort and you’ll see that. And we do want relationships, most women would rather date the alpha though. Beta males have two options: either be fine with being leeched off of for your resources, or just give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:47 AM
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Yep. Men are pretty much forced into a very rigid box just to be seen as attractive, all while most women give them the same “be yourself” advice. And the qualities that are valued are usually more superficial and materialistic than qualities that actually matter long term. The fact sociopaths and psychopaths do better than your average kind hearted man really says alot about what women value in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:33 AM
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The fact men have to change these aspects to attract women less attractive than them is proof it isnt the fault of men lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 12:42 AM
2

I can’t say for certain, but given the current state of gender roles in the West, it only makes sense these women are only putting on a facade to try attracting HVM
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:44 PM
2

In theory, yes. But it can be assumed these women would eventually have a limit or get tired of doing these things that they said they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:30 PM
1

I suppose. But any man who has experience with insatiable women will question the intentions of a woman who considers his wallet size when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:05 PM
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And that’s why things will never return to the tradition, because men are expected to do half of these things and pay all the bills
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:02 PM
7

So one example proves all unattractive men treat women worse than attractive men. Makes perfect sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:09 PM
3

That’s what you’re saying summed up. “Ugly guys with game get laid.” Yet you also say you “took L’s” for dating unattractive guys. No woman who actually doesn’t mind dating unattractive men would say she’s taking an L for doing so. So it can be implied that you didn’t actually value these guys. Which also implies these men still don’t really have a chance at being valued the same way a chad is valued.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:08 PM
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So you conclude all unattractive men treat all women worse because you chose to stay with a few horrible guys? And that because your current bf is both kind and attractive, there’s no point in dating unattractive men. Yet your title implies women are willing to date unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:04 PM
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Oh right, it just so happened unattractive dudes treated you worse, didn’t have anything at all to do with the halo effect
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:59 PM
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And Im sure you let the attractive guys get away with much more and ignored the red flags you applied to these other guys. Just basic virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:57 PM
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The fact you approach dating these men as “taking L’s” just shows these men aren’t actually valued long term lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:55 PM
3

Agreed. Sadly many women are like this in their younger years and by the time they change, most men have already learned they won’t be loved the same way those guys were and that they’ll be held to a higher standard with less to gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:57 PM
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Because many women want to establish relationships with these types of men and get upset when it doesn’t work or they’re strictly put in the side chick category.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:51 PM
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And that’s you. But anytime a women has a ONS with a HVM, she seems to want to lure him back in, no matter if he’s an asshole or not. And the fact him being an asshole doesn’t disqualify him is what stands out to most men, after hearing countless rants from women about how awful these guys are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:45 PM
1

That’s correct. I assume trad men would know this as well, but having a woman directly tell you that she expects this from your wallet is demeaning and basically establishes your worth as a wallet, which doesn’t leave much wiggle room for any real intimacy or connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:43 PM
-1

It won’t collapse, society has been carried on the backs of beta males for centuries. Many of these men are still holding out for a chance to find “the one” and will continue to work for that chance up until retirement. Its not until these men stop searching for happiness in the material world and having a dying wish for the nuclear family unit will they let society crumble.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:42 PM
1

I guess maybe talking about what she actually wants in life instead of what she wants out of a guy. Makes it seem too transactional to actually see her as a real option.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:38 PM
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Of course they’re easy, but the fact a woman wants to stay with this guy long term speaks volumes. Im not high value at all and after a ONS I don’t wanna stick around with a disrespectful loud mouthed woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:36 PM
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Isn’t that what trad women do anyway though? The old dynamic of the man’s money running the house is still popular with most women because they still want to spend the money these men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:33 PM
3

At least you’re honest. Men just don’t have as much to gain dating a trad woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:31 PM
1

No, because its pretty obvious she’s not looking for anything real, only a walking ATM. And in this day and age, most “trad” women are only pick me’s who do maybe 25% of what a trad woman would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:28 PM
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Its not an excuse when a majority of “self made” women have that mindset. And even when they don’t, they want a man who makes as much or more than they do, or they want a man who makes less so they can hold the power over him (usually the types who got used up by chads then get bitter and want the power now)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:20 PM
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No, the issue is alot of these women have the whole “strong independent” mindset that just translates to bitter and disrespectful and when men back off from the disrespect, they think they’re “intimidated by strong independent women”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:14 PM
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Another way to approach this: HVM care about status because women care about their status. If women didn’t care, most men wouldn’t care. Why else do these men buy flashy cars and clothes? It sure isn’t for the male compliments and attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:12 PM
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And I suppose those controlling crazy types of women are just victims of circumstances and in no way drive by their own bruised ego, right? It goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:09 PM
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Maintaining respect amongst friends and family has nothing to do with their ego, it has to do with not being disrespected and treated as a doormat. The average man wouldn’t even have the chance to date a super attractive woman with a lot of money so its just a false equivalency. In fact Id say many men would hop on that opportunity if it was actually viable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:01 PM
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Men go for whores because they’re low effort and an easy ONS. Isn’t really the same as seeking LTRs with assholes the way women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:55 PM
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Men in higher positions care about maintaining status. The average man doesn’t prioritize status because it doesn’t really matter for an average man. Once again, an 80/20 issue. Men protecting their ego with cheap easy sex is really no different from feigning for attention on social media or dating apps with selfies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:53 PM
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Men get their nice guy ideas from hearing girls complain about assholes so they try being the exact opposite. Its not until you realize all those guys get all the attention that you realize its all virtue signaling to cling to their innocent naive norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:27 PM
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And plenty of those SJWs continue to get with the same men who made them think men are evil. Or they try to do a role reversal and find a beta to disrespect and abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:22 PM
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Im not talking about the legal level. Im talking about how women are socially seen as victims no matter what their role was and get treated as such while men who get used by gold diggers just get gaslit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 04:18 AM
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Because sometimes they lead the man on to believe they actually love him just to leech off his money. No matter how predatory that man is, that women knew it wasn’t gonna work as an actual relationship anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 04:11 AM
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Id go even further to say young attractive women are using their assumed naivety to get away with using older men for their resources, since no one ever holds them accountable for their own actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 03:26 AM
7

I see a lot of replies here just parroting the same ol “women aren’t your therapist” mindset. But do you also believe this when it comes to you unloading your own problems and trauma onto men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:34 PM
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Who said anything about wanting as much sex as possible? Companionship and relationships are important and valid things to desire. Or are you maybe using this whole “all men care about is sex” mindset to dehumanize and invalidate their issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:27 PM
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Both. But the looks threshold matters more, they’re more lenient on their personality threshold if you look good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 03:10 PM
3

Honestly this post comes across like “I dont know why men complain about getting pussy, just do this, but not like that, and also do this, but dont do it like that because they see through it. And if you do this and it doesn’t work, there must be something wrong with you.”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 03:05 PM
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Its easy to get pussy without a good job and being overweight (usually from fat women). Its hard to find some pussy worth keeping or a woman that doesn’t have FOMO or some other commitment issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 03:02 PM
6

This should be top comment
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 03:07 PM
1

You actually think Id put my real face on Reddit? Lmao, this is a throwaway
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 01:16 PM
1

Let me spell it out then. Feeling entitled to SEX after paying for a date or being nice, is entitlement. Being upset about them rejecting you or leading you on isn’t entitlement, its literally the common reaction to any rejection from someone you had an interest in. The only difference is y’all paint men as evil so any display of a negative emotion is “toxic.”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:34 AM
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Like I said, yall twist any male frustration into entitlement. Unless a guy is directly scolding you for it, its not entitlement. Venting about a frustrating experience isn’t entitlement. Entitlement is telling men who are under 6 ft to off themselves. Entitlement is saying “don’t bother messaging me if you’re poor.” Entitlement is expecting a man to provide for you when all you do is leech off of them and bang them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:28 AM
0

Lol, Im volcel if anything. Id just rather use my hand than fuck a fatty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:24 AM
-1

Ive avoided dating for over a year now, after dealing with all the women in my past Id rather be single than waste another minute trying to impress women who have nothing to offer but a hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:19 AM
0

Noone said that wasn’t entitlement. But yall twist any type of male frustration into entitlement, yet set a standard for men that even yall couldn’t meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 05:51 AM
-1

Lol, thanks for proving the whole projecting part.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 05:25 AM
0

Being disappointed that all your time and money was invested in nothing isn’t the same as feeling entitled to an attractive man with 6 figures
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 05:10 AM
3

Half of my sexual experiences have been from women I wasn’t even attracted to coercing me into having sex with them just for them to drop me after.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 03:35 AM
5

Ive had some success in dating, but when it comes to actual commitment, this standard applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 03:29 AM
7

Women date up. See it all the time, 6s want 8s, but a 6 man has to settle for a 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 03:25 AM
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I wanna add another hot take: most of the entitled men who do exist are men who have already had success in the past, not the men who get frustrated at their lack of success/options.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 03:13 AM
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Exactly. Then this standard is projected onto overweight incels with “maybe you shouldn’t feel entitled to women in shape and lower your standards” yet most men are self aware enough to already know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 03:02 AM
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Trump is an example of the entitlement that comes from success in business and spreads to every other area in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 02:59 AM
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And don’t expect a man to be a replacement for your father. Its just as common for women to have a “daddy’s girl” mindset about dating and expect it all just for existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 02:53 AM
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And women openly express their entitlement in their approach to dating. Men express theirs after getting a date. Both are wrong, but one is pretty much socially acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 02:51 AM
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And Ive had women ignore my no or call me names after rejecting them. Not saying one is worse, but its not often men step over the line. Women know they’re not held to the same standard and grope or harass men no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 02:42 AM
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This is after a man successfully gets a date with you, Im talking about the way women approach dating in the first place. Of course this behavior isn’t acceptable, but Ive had women call me weak or “not a man” for rejecting them or saying no to sex because I wasn’t attracted to them. But they had a high body count and felt entitled to add another guy to the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 02:39 AM
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Oh no doubt, my main gripe is just the women who start pointing fingers at men as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 02:36 AM
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Okay, but if were implying that having that expectation as a man is bad, its just as bad to expect men to provide. Of course its entitlement to expect something for nothing, but in my experience, its been women who expect it all and provide so little.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 02:25 AM
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And if these men expect this, in what way is that any different than a woman feeling entitled to a man that takes care of her and provides for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 02:21 AM
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As someone who has only had sex a few times, Id still rather be single than waste time on casual sex with a stranger I wont ever see again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 01:48 AM
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