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Personally I've slept around enough to know what I like, and also to know that there's more to life than getting my dick wet. That's why I'm totally willing to trade the novelty of rando pussy for being married to my wife. It's worth it. But I can only say this with certainly because I've slept around. If I had a sub-10 N count myself I'd be much more likely to confuse the tingles I get from a cute chick flirting with me for a sign that maybe I should start chasing rando pussy instead of being m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 10:38 PM
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I didn't say complaining did any good. I said it could be a valid complaint.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 08:22 PM
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If men were valued for that, then women would have nothing to complain about, because it would be equality. It would still be entirely possible to complain about being only seen in a sexual context even if it happened to men as much as women. Just FYI.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 07:34 PM
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men aren't valued for their looks and sex appeal. speak for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 06:47 PM
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NEEDS? lol. Yes, people in power tend to oppres those without power because they NEED to. Not because they wish to maintain or increase their own power...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 09:05 PM
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Proof to you or proof to myself? The best proof to myself is the world I live in and the people I know, the vast majority of which do not fall under your post. I know so many women who are loyal, hard-working, nurturing, and contribute to their environment. Seconded. I mainly come here to remind myself how incredibly awful some people's lives and friends are, and to be grateful that I don't know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 09:00 PM
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lol i give up. you're right, thinking that the members of government should represent the demographics of the people they serve is exactly like thinking the NBA's racial makeup should match the demographics of the country. ur amazing comparison has convinced me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 09:49 PM
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The point is, just like with government, the people are concerned with the ability and skills of those involved, not their race. My concerns with the NBA are nothing like my concerns with the government and once again, the fact you think this parallel holds value is frankly embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 09:03 PM
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The government is a collective, public entity that exists, in theory, to represent the will of the people. The NBA is a private entity that exists to make money for its owners. Your comparison is awful and shows an embarrassing lack of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 08:17 PM
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This is like the most cliche TRP-totally-isn't-a-bunch-of-aspies-or-anything post ever. +1 would roll eyes again.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 08:06 PM
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Creeps me out, man, especially when chicks I'm not into joke about it. I'm married and you're ugly. I'm not fucking you. Leave me alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 07:20 PM
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A woman's obesity is not going to hinder her from dating or finding a husband. oh my god the shit you guys say
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 07:17 PM
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I feel like a core difference between RP and my own beliefs is that RP says "all people are shit, give up and accept it" and am I'm like "most people are shit, so get better at finding people who aren't shit" and then RP is like "no, i just want to complain about shitty people and get better at manipulating them"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 09:06 PM
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anyone is wasting time on this shitpost of an analogy is amazing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 07:59 PM
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stealing is wrong, but can get you rich. TBP thinks that TRPs sexual strategies are wrong, but can get you laid. thus stealing : wealth :: TRP : sex that anyone is wasting time on this shitpost of an analogy is amazing to me. like most analogies it's only valid if you take the simplest, shallowest view of it. and i'd like to think that people in a debate forum aren't looking for the "simplest, shallowest" view of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 07:23 PM
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I have no desire to debate the merits of TRP through the lens of a poorly fitting analogy. I am just explaining why OP's analogy/reasoning is incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 07:05 PM
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holy fuck you pedantic motherfucker
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 06:54 PM
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The point is that you're being criticized for your methods, not your goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 06:49 PM
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But I don't criticize TRP for advocating game. I criticize it for advocating paranoia and emotional abuse. Not quite sure how that fits into OP's finely crafted analogy. The point is that you're not being criticized for your goals, you're being criticized for your methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 06:48 PM
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i'm extending your godawful analogy dude
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 06:43 PM
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It's a continuation of OP's analogy, not investment advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 06:38 PM
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They aren't criticizing you for wanting to get rich. They're criticizing you for wanting to get rich by stealing. (but strategies for getting rich are amoral!!!)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 05:37 PM
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If you say so. Can't say I know a lot of single women these days. As non-shitty women they tend to end up in relationships and stay there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 07:41 PM
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but the fact that most women are shitty relationship prospects is not on guys. Own it, bitches. lol. who is supposed to "own it"? It's all women's fault that some women are shitty? Should the women who aren't shitty call the President of Women and demand that the shitty women stop being less shitty? You're hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 01:25 PM
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Their shittiness is their fault. You exposing yourself to it, repeatedly, and forming a worldview around it... instead of asking yourself "what can I do to meet more DECENT HUMAN BEINGS?" .. that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 02:33 AM
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because women bring a lot of their own shitbaggery to the table You meant "the shitty women you don't know how to avoid bring a lot of their own shitbaggery, " - but as an RP user you've lost the distinction between "shitty women" and "women. " And the loss of this distinction is EXACTLY why TRP is toxic shitbaggery. I think you massively overestimate the level of "shitbaggery" among red pill guys. I think I have a pretty good handle on it, actually. I mean, even that you're trying to pass off y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 03:43 PM
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I think TRP massively underestimates how well women who are "not completely nucking futz" can detect their shitbaggery and avoid it, leaving them to [quite successfully] pick up the scraps that are too dumb or too damaged to know enough to avoid them. I think it's safe to say that most women, including truly high-value ones, are attracted to some aspects of traditional masculinity, so in that regard "TRP works on all women". But I'd also say that TRP prescribes a lot of behaviors (paranoia, cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 01:32 PM
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TBP is just straight up "lol let's laugh at these losers." In my defense, I am here to a laugh at losers who joined a hate group, not just losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 09:27 PM
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if you are trying to hit a target, aim for the visible centre of mass The "center of mass" of women -- no, wait, of PEOPLE -- is trash. If you think shooting for fucking THAT is a worthwhile goal -- great. Some of us have slightly higher aspirations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 09:21 PM
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You're not very good at math, are you? Your baseline assumption is that most men are unattractive. Ok, let's assume you're correct. Let's say 80% of men are unattractive. Therefore, most men who die in war will be unattractive. True. But most men who live through war will be also be unattractive -- because most men are unattractive. Most men who get polio will be unattractive. Yes! But also, most men who don't get polio will be unattractive. Unless you have some sort of proof that polio selects …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 08:18 PM
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No, dude, you don't just get to mash two wikipedia entries together and call yourself correct. Mathematical induction is a very well-defined methodology involving a step and a base. It's a form for deduction, yes, but that doesn't mean all deduction is "mathematical induction" If you look at the example on wikipedia you should be able to get an idea of it, but basically you prove something is true for all cases by proving it's true for the base case (generally n=0 or n=1) and that it's also true…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 02:21 PM
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Mathematical induction, the main process of proving things mathematically works by saying if something is true for one thing, it's true for all of them, and you have to show how it's true. That...is not mathematical induction. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 02:02 AM
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If we think of the population as "married couples" Why the FUCK would we do that? The mere fact that we're typing coherently on a reddit debate forum means that we're almost certainly more educated than the population on average. This means we probably went to (or will go to) college, and we are likely to marry later than average, which means our marriages are more likely to succeed than those of the general population. So WHY would you use numbers from "all married couples" when it includes so …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 02:01 AM
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Ok, let's try again so you don't get offended. I love when [people on the internet who have clear biases] tell me what conclusions are reasonable and dress it up as "Occam's razor." Don't get too hung up on responding to me. This is just a drive-by mockery of how confidently you present your conclusion as "applying the razor," utterly unaware of how your own worldview has caused you to redefine what "the simplest explanation" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 09:38 PM
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wow Dailymail misconstruing research to get clicks, I never would have thought!! As someone who had a seven year relationship fall apart when she lost her job... yeah when she was unemployed she was a depressed waste of space and it sucked
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 09:23 PM
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it is reasonable to tentatively conclude that that number of women view their husbands as resource-provision sources rather than life partners. I love when Terps tell me what conclusions are reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 09:17 PM
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TRP takes the latter off the table as being inherently a fool's game. People who really want them and then swallow that pill have already given up on having the life that they want. Really sad for them. This is one of the things that drives me nuts... that TRP takes "I had a failed long-term relationship" or "i can't find a long term relationship" and extrapolates that, er "swallows the pill" and decides that "all women are evil and LTRs are a fool's game" instead of "what did I do wrong, and ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 01:51 PM
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TRP is an interesting set of ideas to consider, if you're a stable individual, and the self-improvement and "this is how female attraction works" stuff is genuinely valuable to a lot of guys out there. But then it dips into a bunch of bitter loners having a misogyny contest and you're just like...yeahhh no. I think that there should be a "respectful adults who want to have accountable relationships where they are honest about what they want and need" thread. One of the surprising side effects PP…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 12:48 PM
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Bro I'm just a guy passing through laughing at how hard you're getting rekt. She's eloquent as fuck and more patient than anyone should ever be with people like you... and you're just, like, a caricature of a TRP manbaby. It's beautiful and sad at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 12:20 AM
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The degree to which you're getting owned in this exchange is pretty amazing. I'm sure you think you're "holding frame" or something but... damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 11:17 PM
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RP should study successful men instead of complaining about AFBB, hypergamy, creep shaming, and divorce rape. None of that shit makes a man any better, it makes him bitter and sexist. well fucking said
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 11:06 PM
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this kid has no fucking idea how the world works
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 05:19 PM
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If sex doesn't devalue a woman, then there's no reason these women should refuse sex to their BB husbands or in a DB marriage. I don't understand why you keep making this "If X, then Y" statement as it's such an obvious thing, or if anyone other than you ever suggested that X implies Y. I agree with X and generally agree with Y, but X does not imply Y in any way. "Actions that devalue a person" (X) and "actions a person doesn't not want to do, but probably should do for the stability of their re…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 10:24 PM
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maybe married men in dead-bedroom situations are lucky? He begs and he pleads, and she generally relents and has missionary duty sex with him once every six weeks or so. Ain't nothing lucky about being this guy. Or is it even more contextual than that? Maybe every single person and every single relationship, casual or serious, is completely unique. So a woman is going to have a unique sexual frequency and a unique set of sexual practices for every single man? Nothing is ever completely unique on…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:36 PM
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I give up. Your inability to acknowledge a difference between "value" and "meaning" has broken my will.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 01:36 PM
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I didn't twist anything into anything. Stop misrepresenting what I said. Are we reading the same conversation? Anyway. And, given your position that sex doesn't devalue these women, why shouldn't they just have sex with these BB husbands or in a DB marriage? I would suspect that many BB/DB marriages have plenty of cases where the woman "just has sex." Do I want pity sex, or advocate "pity sex" as a long-term solution to keeping your marriage healthy? No, which is why I wouldn't advocate it. If y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 01:24 PM
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I give zero shits about "the common Blue pill position." I don't speak for blue pills, I speak for me. Your attempts to twist "sex does not cause a loss of value" into "sex has no meaning" so that you can create a strawman to attack are laughable. People should fuck people they want to fuck. If they don't want to fuck those people, they shouldn't marry or remain married to those people. If you end up in a relationship where you don't want to fuck your spouse, or your spouse doesn't want to fuck …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 01:04 PM
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If sex doesn't mean anything (or in your words, sex doesn't devalue a woman) The fact that you think those two statements are equivalent is MIND BLOWING
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 12:55 PM
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You could absolutely have a video-game based incompatibility that ruined your relationship. I mean shit, this isn't even an analogy anymore -- that's a real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 01:58 AM
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I said it doesn't devalue you. You said it doesn't mean anything. These two statements are wildly different.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 01:57 AM
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That's kind of a funny situation when out the other side of our mouth, we'll declare that sex isn't that important, recreational sex is just fine, having 350 previous sexual partners isn't a big deal, and that sex can't be lost, taken, given up, or used up. The problem here is that you're trying to treat "sex" as a single thing with a fixed value in all cases, regardless of the parties involved or the nature of the act. Sex can be special, but it doesn't have to be. Some people think it's always…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 09:31 PM
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Something about violating somebody's freedom of choice in a way that involves touching them just makes that a lot worse than something like sneaking in to play video games? Yes. Not just touching them, touching them in an area that society considers private or intimate. Even at the beach in 2016 we cover our genitals... but I can play video games in public and no one gives a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 09:10 PM
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No, I'm not saying they're the same. Just in the "same genre of social issue," like you said. Likewise, if you impregnate a woman and prevent her from getting an abortion, you're making her go through pregnancy, childbirth, and burdening her with child care. You're costing her something. Even if she gets an abortion you're burdening her with something. Abortions are not exactly free, easy, and fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 08:45 PM
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I think the comparison to abortion is pretty apt. There's people who think abortion is murder and there's people who can have them once a year and not bat an eye. There's fewer gray areas with abortion, though, so it's easier to draw up laws that land somewhere between the extremes (i.e. no 3rd trimester) than with rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 08:39 PM
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I would say that having your body physically used against your will is different from having your possessions used against your will, because you're present and actually feeling it. You're fundamentally involved in the act. Theft of one's body/agency is a much more serious crime than theft of one's possessions, and how much you feel traumatized by that act is not necessarily dependent on how freely you would otherwise give it away. Are there some women who have a casual view of sex, and a casual…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 08:06 PM
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Blue pill advocates are very strongly in favor of female sexuality and often argue that women do not “lose” anything or “give up” anything by having sex. This is not specific to women. The argument (by any logically consistent bluepiller, anyway) would be that men and women do not lose anything or devalue themselves by having sex. And yet, if a man were to rape you (a man), that would be a traumatic experience nowhere on par with someone breaking into your house to play video games. Can you imag…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 07:50 PM
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Haha, oh man do I feel this one. Welcome to growing up. Oh, you want a smart supermodel to go downhill mountain biking with? Yeah, don't we all. But that doesn't exist, or if she does, she's fucking insufferable because every man in the world has been trying to get with her for her entire life. So at some point, you have to accept that life isn't a fair tale and you're going to have to compromise a bit in partner selection, be it looks, intelligence, or athleticism, or compatibility. Complain al…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 08:24 PM
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At first I was here because I got a kick of out making fun of assholes. It's interesting to see how people see the world though. And the illogical lengths to which (both) sides will go to when hamstering frantically. I stay on the fringes of the RP-sphere because every once in a while you catch something of value, and the rest of the time it just reminds me of how much of a monster I nearly became.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 03:19 AM
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No, it's from observing women in general and mostly remembering the ones who confirmed your preexisting ideas about what women are like and forgetting or dismissing the ones who didn't. That is how people end up with narrow reality tunnels. TRP would place very well at the confirmation bias Olympics, that's for damn sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 11:33 PM
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I swear the term is overused to hell and has come to mean "defending a woman for any reason whatsoever". In the manosphere it's basically just a generic insult for any man arguing in favor of an opinion that has been put forth by a woman or is considered the "feminine side" of the argument. If you're an RP anti-SJW genderwarrior, you see a world full of white knights. Otherwise they're pretty rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 09:57 PM
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so I offered to walk her over so we could chat. On the way back, a dude on a trashy looking porch started yelling shit at her (catcalling stuff). I didn't hear, because I had my earbuds in, but when I popped them out to see what the hell they were on about, he was dropping "cunt" every other sentence. If you're gonna make stories up you should check them for consistency a little better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 09:53 PM
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These days it feels the only thing a woman needs to get sexual attention is simply having a vagina and a pair of tits. These days it feels feels Your feels are wrong. Just because unattractive women can receive sexual attention more easily than unattractive men doesn't mean that looks don't matter, unless you consider all sexual attention to be equally valuable. Which is of course ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 07:18 PM
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if you're a devout Christian at this point you aren't living in a modern society
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 12:10 PM
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Most men get married so they can have a sex partner on the regular. This isn't accurate. By the time you're getting married in a modern society you've already had a sex partner on the regular for years: your girlfriend. Maybe it's about keeping their sex partner on the regular? But they're certainly not gaining anything sexual here. Why modern men choose to get married is a bit of a mystery to me at times (and I say that as a married man). But it can't be about getting laid; because the vast maj…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 11:17 PM
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Can confirm. Have these things. Killed it. It works better as you get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 08:46 PM
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My lifelong dream has been to keep doing cool shit until I die. Luckily my wife feels the same way, which is why she's my wife. I wouldn't have married a woman who wanted 2.5 kids and a house in suburbia.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 07:39 PM
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To each his own, I suppose. I would rate immaturity as an immediate dealbreaker for myself, and "different life stages" as the #1 cause of long term issues in couples with a significant age gap... and since we're talking about "finding a life partner" and not a fuckbuddy that's a dealbreaker for me, too. That's a woman's criteria Oh I'm sorry, is wanting to be with a human being I respect EFFEMINATE now?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 06:43 PM
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So you are looking for a life partner, but don't think it's important that they have the same maturity level or life stage as yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 06:03 PM
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I have no idea what you're trying to say here. Can you quote what you're responding to?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 05:55 PM
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As long as you LTR a girl while you're both 18-21, she'll be okay with you turning out to be a loser after you marry because she'll have developed love for you over all those years. This is legit. Nope nope nope. Just because you've pair-bonded with someone over a period of years doesn't give you a get-out-jail-free card that you can use forever. Will she cut you some slack cuz she loves you? Yes, for a while. Will she stay married and faithful to a total fucking loser for the rest of her life? …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 05:34 PM
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Literally the only escape was to LTR a qt before you turn 22. Really kicking myself for not realizing that sooner. That wouldn't be an escape, at least not a permanent one. By the time you're 30 she'd still be comparing you to other men of that age, and if you're lagging far enough behind she'll leave you for one of them. If your goal in life is a stable, quality LTR, there is no option not to get your shit together and be a man. Because plenty of guys do it, and they're your competition for qua…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 05:02 PM
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For women that disagree with this, what did the men that fucked you between 18-22 need? A car and some general level of attractiveness? What will the man that eventually marries you need? A career with prospects for advancement, enough money to provide for 2.5 children and the occasional overseas holiday, a car with a resale value of at least $10,000, a house with a mortgage... The funny thing here is that both women, old and young, are just being hypergamous. The thing is, when you're an 18-22 …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 04:46 PM
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He simply said that women demand it of him whereas before they did not. Women don't demand it. They want it. High-value women get what they want. He's just complaining that high-value women are able to get more demands met than low-value women. So why does anyone meet the demands of aging high-value women, then? As OP notes: But if you're single and in your mid-late 20s and beyond, there's really no reason to go after women your own age I suppose if all you want is a place to park your cock then…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 04:37 PM
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i was sarcastically parroting the TRP talking point of "women don't feel true love like men do," so taking me seriously would be a mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 01:29 AM
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Of course not. Women aren't capable of love. Therefore they are not capable of loving the man that didn't take their virginity. QED.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 01:40 AM
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smaller venues where grinding random strangers is frowned upon. Haha, right? I love how everyone has their own definition of "nightclub" here. The places I've been out dancing with my wife I would call nightclubs, and they're not the kind of places I would worry about 800 dudes grinding on her the second I wasn't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 08:23 PM
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I cried about a month into dating a girl five years ago. We got married 2 years ago. But correlation is not causation of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 07:09 PM
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Matured?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 12:28 PM
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People are free to worry about whatever they want in selecting a partner. However, I think this is a very important point that many TRPs don't weight enough: As long as she was not in a committed relationship and had safe and protected sex, her number of partners has ZERO reflection on her ability to remain monogamous and her moral character! It simply means SHE LIKES SEX. As someone who likes sex and wants a partner who likes sex, the tradeoffs that come with dating a woman who has had a lot of…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 10:46 PM
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I agree with or at least find value in a variety of red pill concepts; however I enjoy mocking TRP posters who adhere to or promote the red pill concepts I find incorrect. Does this make me blue pill? I'm not sure. The whole thing is a false dichotomy, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 10:35 PM
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Yes, ozymandius is the one generalizing here. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 08:13 PM
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A promiscuous women, is going to have a very high N-count. Wait. So you're saying... promiscuous women.... are promiscuous?! HOLY SHIT!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 08:13 PM
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It's a joke about the TRP stereotype that uses rape as the punchline. do u even humor
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 09:30 PM
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that people can't tell that was a joke is incredibly telling
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 08:27 PM
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uh, we're on the internet, so i'm talking in the context of THE INTERNET, hence why i referenced another place on reddit. you can also get plenty of sympathy and advice from your friends (assuming you have them). where else beyond friends and the internet should people go for advice? self-help books? oh wait, those also would be full of advice for a struggling man and not mockery. if you stand on the sidewalk and scream "why am i so aloneeeee" you won't get any sympathy, whether you're male or f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 01:44 PM
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Do you deny that you have massively backpedaled from your original statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 07:34 PM
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If you're a man, and you're making a move on a woman, the IOIs had better be crystal clear and you better have received a clear as a bell indication that, yes, this woman wants to have sex with you; or else you will likely find yourself dealing with the law. or else you will likely find yourself dealing with the law. likely I do not think that word means what you think it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 06:41 PM
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I feel like FA men are so desperate for sex that they completely lose sight of the fact that the intent behind that sex is actually what alleviates loneliness. "I would love to be pumped and dumped!," they think, as if every single day after said pumping and dumping wouldn't be exactly as lonely as the days before it happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 05:50 PM
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Exactly. She isn't validated by a one-night stand, she's validated by commitment. She's as alone as this guy, she just had a random dick inside her at one point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 05:38 PM
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well for one thing there's not a shred of sympathy for a guy who's struggling to socialize and meet women, at best he's met with condescending pity and disdain, at worst he's mocked Actually there's tons of sympathy for guys who struggle to meet women, try asking for help in a relationships forum instead of in PPD under a CMV with a thinly-veiled agenda and you'll get tons of support and feel-good advice. It might not help you, but no one will mock you or be mean to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 05:33 PM
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fair enough, i guess. just curious, how old are you? as someone who's now 10 years out of college myself, I feel like I've lost the right claim to be an authority on how the college hookup scene works nowadays. I'm an expert in how it worked in 2004, though...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 12:21 AM
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As for "not being able to compete" I think this is making the same mistake TRP does where you focus only on the top-tier most attractive women, wonder why you can't fuck them when you're average, and get frustrated. Instead of going after girls who are on the same level as you and would be easily willing to bang you. Exactly. Dude is trying to hit on a bunch of blond blue eyed sorority chicks and thinks that it's not working because of "hookup culture"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 09:02 PM
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and yet you feel qualified to tell this guy how it works and what he's doing wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 09:01 PM
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I know you can't understand this, but the words you've written could easily be counter argued by most teenage boys. It's how our logical brains work. I laughed out loud. /r/iamverysmart
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 08:24 PM
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Blues and society in general massively, enormously overstate and overestimate the magnitude of this so-called "problem" of "niceguys (TM)". It's cute how men are such experts in what it's like to be a woman. Why do you think this is uncommon? Did you spend a year pretending to be a woman in online dating? Do you go to bars dressed as a woman? Did you compare notes with all your close female friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 05:52 PM
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What is his incentive to follow "do unto others" if he never intends to marry to be cheated on? You don't have to get married to get cheated on. I note that in your posts you make a distinction between "married" and "LTR" -- this is a much stronger distinction to you (conservative, 40+) than it is to most people. The world is full of 25-35 year olds who've been together for 3 or more years, and act and operate like they're married. It's the new marriage... at least for millennials in cities. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 05:46 PM
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It seems kinda obvious to me, we all have to owe each other some level of decency Interesting, this isn't my reasoning at all. To me, I value operating in a logically consistent and egalitarian way. If I wouldn't want something done to me, then I shouldn't do it to anyone else. Otherwise I'm a hypocrite -- and if I'm not willing to live the way I think others should live, then I have no right to look down upon them for failing to meet those standards. It's not about adhering to some social contr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 05:21 PM
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MY tale? Shit dude I'm just a guy reading the thread a day later calling out the guy who brought up the middle ages as if it was relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 05:06 PM
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I'm not saying I'd be out with a loaded gun looking for some random dude, but I'm also not excusing him of being a douche. There's nothing I can do about him being a douche, but why should that stop me from calling it like I see it? Agreed. A guy who seeks married women to fuck tells you a lot about his character. Am I mad at him for being shitty? No, because I know the world is full of shitty people. But that doesn't make him not a shitty person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 04:55 PM
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that you're making a weak-ass appeal to history instead of recognizing how much the romantic and dating landscape has changed in the last 200 years? yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 04:42 PM
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historically for a large part of the middle ages was the norm for any family with resources, you wanted love you had an affair. yeah i'll be sure to keep this in mind next time i'm dating in the middle ages
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 04:10 PM
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Ah yes, you sound so full of carefree mirth and not bitter at all ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 05:32 PM
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all TRPers were doing those things anyway I can't speak for all redpillers, of course, This is why I laughed. Believe me, I agree with TRP on the importance of cultivating desire. It's the rest of it that's ridiculous and frequently harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 01:17 AM
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Indeed. Can you clarify this from the last post? Do you agree that sexual relationships do involve power struggle? Do you mean a struggle between the man and the woman who are doing the fucking? Or a struggle between men who are all trying to fuck the same set of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 10:55 PM
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Do you agree that sexual relationships do involve power struggle? Not really. Do you mean a struggle between the man and the woman who are doing the fucking? Or a struggle between men who are all trying to fuck the same set of women? 2)Do you agree that recognizing such a power struggle exists will help one be more successful in said sexual relationships? I think describing it as a "struggle" is a bit off-base, but like I said, if that's what you need to get motivated, go for it. To me, viewing …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 10:36 PM
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I guess this is basically the third post in a row where you've just kinda rambled about what you believe in instead of responding to anything I said. So I guess we're done here? I'm not mad or anything, just, like, confused about what you think is happening in this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 09:46 PM
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I've had great success in life by bettering myself with zero regard for my status relative to other people, both male and female. if you want to obsess about power struggles all day long because it motivates you to be a better person, that's your prerogative. I personally think there's a non-trivial psychological cost to viewing the world in such a perpetually adversarial light, and thus my initial comment was: "what a bummer way to live." Do you know anyone who achieved great success without so…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 09:26 PM
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I don't think we're debating anything, you're just orating, which is fine. I think this is an interesting tidbit: A Red Piller will tell you that the point of life is success. A Blue Piller will tell you that the point of life is happiness. Now, success and happiness are very frequently the same thing, so most of the times the pills are in agreement on this topic, right? And you're saying, that when success and happiness are NOT the same thing, you'd rather be successful than happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 09:11 PM
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Doesn't mean that obsessing about it will help you win it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 09:07 PM
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The Red Pill isn't about building successful relationships with women. It's about male power at the expense of female power. The power struggle is there, whether you're conscious of it or just letting it play out behind the scenes. One of the many differences between you and I is that you see human interaction as a zero-sum game, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 08:48 PM
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What's not feasible for the average person? Modern long-term relationships typically evolve from short-term relationships. Pursuing "flings" as you call it, is, for many people, also the pursuit a "a loving, committed and loyal relationship."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 08:07 PM
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Or if you're a dude who doesn't want to spend every waking hour in a power struggle hoping to get your dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 08:05 PM
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raises hand banged my wife within 6 hours of meeting her, been an awesome 5 years since then
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 08:02 PM
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I can't really understand how people can argue for meaningless sexual flings when it is so clear how much more valuable a loving, committed and loyal relationship can be. Isn't TRP full of guys who would rather spin plates than settle down? This reads like a bunch of traditionalist handwringing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 07:57 PM
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The Red Pill isn't about building successful relationships with women. It's about male power at the expense of female power. The whole point is to reduce women to interchangeable sex objects. What a bummer way to go through life, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 07:26 PM
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Communication and decision making are obvious, and all TRPers were doing those things anyway. ahahahahahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 01:32 PM
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the joke here is that since terps are incapable of love, they can only visualize bonding via sex, I think?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 08:36 PM
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It's practitioners, I assume. Look at how much time they spend worrying that their girl is going to leave them for Chad or divorcerape them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 06:57 PM
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The only way a man forms a "bond" with a woman is if he's fucked her. Being a great friend to a woman is not "bonding". Being an acquaintance and sharing a lot of common experiences with a woman you know well is not "bonding". Tell me what "bonding" is, then? There's (MANY) women I've fucked who I never had any kind of bond with, and women I've known for years that I would absolutely say I have a bond with, despite never having sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 06:56 PM
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Clearly my comment was hyperbolic, I mean, I said this: until they divorce rape you the second you let your guard down ...which isn't actually what TRP preaches, right? RIGHT?? My point here is that the overall tone of TRP regarding women ranges from hateful, to paranoid, to simplistic, and that internalizing such concepts (even if only as "sexual strategy") is ultimately quite unhealthy for a man. It's called "swallowing the pill" for a reason, because it changes you. TRP thinks that this inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 03:31 PM
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just a hilariously narrow view of how human interactions work. did u sex: y/n?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 08:56 PM
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This conversation is amazing. TRPer thinks "didn't reject" means "fucked on the spot" and then is like "wtf how can u sex on period"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 08:49 PM
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Correct. I agree with TRP on how men should behave to be attractive to women. I do not agree with TRP that women are overgrown teenagers who exist solely to give you sexual pleasure -- until they divorce rape you the second you let your guard down.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 06:56 PM
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1) If you're not confident hitting on women, change yourself until you are. Women (actually, all people) respond well to confidence. Faking confidence is hard, so make real changes in your life until you feel some genuine confidence. Self-improvement adds value to your life beyond women, too. 2) If you don't care that you're bald(ing), she won't care. 3) The world is full of women. Chase lots and date lots until you realize how many different people are out there, and have enough experience to k…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 10:11 PM
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TRP contains many things; I think that is some of them. That's certainly not a full summary of TRP, but it's the takeaway I'd have had at that time in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 09:03 PM
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I was angry. I was mad that, as far as I could tell, pretty girls ruled the world. Because pretty girls could sleep around, but I couldn't, I tried to come up with other reasons why I was better than them. I started to hate "sluts" and tried to convince myself that girls who didn't take advantage of their position in the sexual marketplace were "better." That I "wanted" a girl who "wasn't a slut," where "slut" meant "had slept with a man I felt inferior to." In retrospect this was all rooted in …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 05:15 PM
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Cmon buddy, you can do it. Gimme that example. I really do want to know what you're talking about, instead of just assuming I know. Edit: I mean I seriously don't know what it means to "denigrate a man's confidence." I can denigrate his actions, ideas, or words... but his confidence? I don't really get what that means.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 12:44 AM
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Noted. didn't mean it as a personal attack; meant in the general sense of "I married a low n-count woman and she has these attributes"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 12:16 AM
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For men, this is compounded by the fact that it is socially acceptable and encouraged to denigrate a man's confidence Can give an example of this? Not sure I understand what you're referencing. terms used to disparage a woman's loyalty have become politically incorrect to the point of being taboo. Wait, what? I'm pretty sure you can still call a cheating whore a cheating whore. And I'm pretty sure that when a guy says "I'm insecure because my girlfriend cheated on all her past boyfriends" everyo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 10:21 PM
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So I understand their shittiness, even as I don't really enjoy it. I hope they find what they need to get past it. My beef with TRP is that for every tool it gives you to be a better man, you have to wade through a pile of angry shitheads trying to drag you into their cesspool of hateful bitterness to get to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 09:39 PM
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LMFAO 1) Post CMV 2) Receive criticism of V 3) Complain that you are criticized
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 09:23 PM
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the more women you're including as potential mates, the better matches you can find. let's take this scenario: There's a woman who is a perfect match for you in every way, but she's slept with a bunch of guys in college. There's a woman who is a bad match for you in a few ways, but she's only slept with one guy in the past. If you're insecure about a woman's past, then you only have one choice here, the latter. If you're not, you have two choices. You have MORE OPTIONS, so the odds of there bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 09:07 PM
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i didn't say you should date women who make you feel uncomfortable, i implied that getting over one's insecurity would widen your dating pool, which is a desirable outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 08:52 PM
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CMV: low partner count women correlate with conservative and/or religious women, who correlate with women in cultures where divorce is frowned upon. therefore the correlation is due to her value system shaming divorce, not her low partner count -- it's just that there two things are highly correlated. basically, correlation doesn't equal causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 08:49 PM
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Oh yes, it's way a far smarter mating strategy to remain insecure and limit your dating pool to women that don't trigger your insecure feels. There's no benefit at all to being able to date a wider range of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 08:36 PM
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It's all intertwined. My values and ideas and anger were not separable at that point in my life, and I don't think they'll ever be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 07:10 PM
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hmm true. i practice many RP tenets but I think most TRPers are shitheads validating each others' shittiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 06:11 PM
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Blue pillers can not say the same thing It's interesting that you assume blue pillers have never been through any kind of TRP thought process. I don't identify as a blue piller, but when I look at my attitudes toward women 10 years ago they were classic anger phase red pill. This is probably why I enjoy yelling at anger phasers so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 06:06 PM
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Even though TRP and TBP both say that this place is useless and no one will ever change, I've felt the opposite is true. I actually agree with this, I understand the underlying issues that drive people to TRP more than I used to. Doesn't mean I agree with their conclusions and rhetoric but I can see why they're where they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 06:00 PM
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I'm here because gender issues are interesting to me, and for every kernel of truth in TRP there's 10 TRPers being complete shitbags about it, and I enjoy telling them so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 05:58 PM
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"We're just trying to get laid [by being complete assholes], why don't you care about our plight?" because i hate people who are assholes, that's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 05:56 PM
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I don't mock them for needing female affection, I mock them for being complete assholes in their attempts to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 05:46 PM
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And Bob is unattractive. He doesn't need to be compared to anything else for someone to discern that. They can look at him and see quite clearly he's objectively "eh." Fuckin' EXACTLY. The problems isn't that someone has had great sex in the past, so now they don't want to have good sex. It's that having sex with this person would not be good at all, because they're not attracted to that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 09:00 PM
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I mean, this is partly why I personally say women tend to be more emotional than logical, because the LOGICAL thing to do in this situation is look for an answer, even though you don't see the problem, if that makes sense? In the article, though, the wife has done exactly this. She has a perfectly reasonable explanation for why she's no longer aroused by her husband. Is it the right one? Eh.... probably not exactly. But she's certainly thought about the situation. If anything, his answers are mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 08:49 PM
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Well, I was being charitable, and "TRP" as a group is highly varied. Some of them no doubt want what you describe, but not all. While I agree with/practice a nontrivial number of TRP tenets, I would never ever use red flair here or post in /r/TRP, because TRP, on average, is a bunch of shitheads.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 06:11 PM
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So you're saying "amoral" just means "we're not worrying about morality right now" If so, then why does the poster in the linked thread suggest use the phrase "guilt she should feel for being a whore"? That seems like he is very worried with the morality of her actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 06:08 PM
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Because TRP aspires to amorality but is actually dominated by anger phasers who can't let go of their emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 05:57 PM
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They will not be considered moral to the one making them I read this five times and I still can't figure out what it's supposed to mean. If we assume "They" = moral judgements then your sentence is "moral judgements will not be considered moral to the one making the moral judgements" ...and that makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 05:55 PM
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holy fuck you guys hamster so hard about "amorality" just admit it's Machiavellianism ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 05:54 PM
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Does this study basically confirm the theory that women are whores and golddiggers? well, at least you led with your bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 05:47 PM
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Amoral does not mean you don't make moral judgements. It simply means the morality of a situation is not considered. How can you make a moral judgement if the morality of a situation is not considered?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 05:45 PM
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Why say that the woman should feel guilt for being a whore? "guilt she should feel for being a whore" (fourth paragraph)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 05:42 PM
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Then a discussion has been started and you can start trying to make a plan and find common ground. ...and if "make a plan and find common ground" is something you can't do with your spouse then you have way bigger problems than getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 05:01 PM
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I dunno, I know a lot of people who share custody and it seems significantly better than being married to someone who doesn't want to have sex with you. If you married a decent human being it seems like the mostly likely outcome of a divorce. If you didn't marry a decent human being, then yeah, I guess you're pretty much fucked (for a variety of reasons), so do whatever you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 04:49 PM
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Nah, doesn't make sense. Man up and tell her you don't plan to be celibate for the rest of your life, so either you'll have sex with other people or with her. Renegotiate the terms until things are acceptable, or break up. Cheating is for cowards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 04:33 PM
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I think it's much more likely that the issue is his appearance, not the kids. I think having that many young kids is putting your sex life on hard mode. This guy is clearly not equipped to play the game on hard mode. He might be able to play it on normal or easy mode, or at least play it longer before his bedroom was dead. The issues are intertwined.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 04:16 PM
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Not being sarcastic. Whoever thought "let's have four kids I'm sure it won't affect our sex life" is at fault. I assume it was him. At least among men I associate with, it's kind of assumed that your sex life is going to tank for a while after a pregnancy (for a variety of reasons). So, seriously, if he's confused about what's happening here, then it's his fault -- he filled his world full of toddlers and his sex life tanked exactly how I'd expect it to. Given the situation, and the fact that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 04:04 PM
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He's at fault for thinking that he was going to have any kind of regular sex in the family HE CREATED, featuring FOUR KIDS AGE FOUR OR YOUNGER. If he can communicate his needs clearly and she can communicate hers, then yeah, she's obligated to throw him the occasional sympathy fuck. But that's no way to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 03:53 PM
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The problem here is that horny people are really bad at self control. If she actually WANTS to have sex with you, she's gonna have sex with you, she's not gonna say "well I wanted to ride his cock, but he didn't take the trash out so I guess I can't." The whole crux of his "it's manipulation!" argument is based on the assumption that sex is something bartered instead of desired. That "her giving him sex" is equivalent to "him giving her money," as if there's no emotional or physical element to i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 12:43 PM
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I think: how can I avoid that? Don't have so many kids you need to work 2 jobs to support them, for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 09:16 PM
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you didn't answer my question. are my actions psychological manipulation? are you suggesting that as a man, i'm allowed to not want to fuck for reasons, but as a woman, she isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 08:32 PM
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This is psychological manipulation, plain and simple. So when I my wife is pissing me off, and I don't want to have sex with her, this is psychological manipulation? "Why don't you want to fuck?" she asks. So if I answer with "because you were being a bitch," that's manipulation, because it's implies "if you had not been bitchy, we'd have sex now"? Because it's the goddamn truth, too, and I'm not obligated to fuck my wife at the drop of a hat just because we're married. Suggesting that any time …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 08:27 PM
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It seems my dad wants me to be a cucked beta like he was Pushing you in any other direction would be calling his life a failure. Apparently he's not willing to do that. he has to pee twice in the middle of the night routinely. No amount of chadding is gonna keep your prostate small, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 07:34 PM
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Converse situations aren't exactly the same. Uh they're exactly the same. A woman can block the door and (at least in your world) threaten to cry assault if you try to get past. End result: you're trapped. A man can block the door and threaten a woman with his physical superiority. End result: she's trapped. How are these two scenarios different? In both scenarios the "force" is based entirely on an implied threat from the person between them and the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 06:05 PM
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Sex, for women, is an act of giving. Sex, for men, is an act of conquest. LMFAO this bullshit again Sex is actually pretty fun (well, if you're not fucking a terp), a lot of chicks are pretty into it for that reason alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 12:18 AM
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Well then, clearly the mask works and there is no other way you could get laid, and since nothing in life matters except getting laid, there's no need to do any kind of value judgement around the cost of wearing the mask versus its benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 12:13 AM
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exactly. "All women who are drunk and 20 at a frat party and won't hook up with me are like that"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 12:11 AM
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I think it motivates men to look even harder for women with as little of these traits as possible. If they know what the worst looks like, they can filter for the best more effectively. From my time here, I don't think this happens at all. I frequently post something to the effect of "you guys must be meeting some shitty women, because most the women I know are pretty much NAWALT" and the reply is always "just wait and see, AWALT" I hear TRP use AWALT used as a reason to aim low (because all wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 12:08 AM
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Seriously. Having your whole worldview revolve around the paranoia that any woman you get close to will leave or exploit you is no way to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 12:01 AM
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it's a pretty on-point paraphrase tho
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 11:49 PM
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lets face it, in the modern West suggesting a woman might actually want to be a stay at home mom is asking for a beat down. aaaaaaaand you did it again. i dunno man, as a person who lives in a world where one can have a totally reasonable discussion about the role of a SAHM in a modern society, when I see guys playing the victim like this it just seems so.... beta
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 05:05 PM
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Calling your own desires blasphemy = implying you're being persecuted
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 04:41 PM
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I know, that's blasphemy in our Feminist world, but there it is. I enjoyed our dialogue but I find the TRP persecution complex tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 04:30 PM
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I also like unicorns.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 04:10 PM
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Everytime I hear the phrase "i can't fuck your college degree" I laugh. Her college degree pays for a lot of awesome shit we do. Y'all can keep your hot, dumb chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 03:52 PM
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Fair enough. Also explains why, as someone who is childless, my spouse's career is valuable to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 03:49 PM
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Ah, so you would classify being a SAHM as "pulling her own weight." Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 03:43 PM
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Your 2.5 kids will eat up that "enviable lifestyle" for about 18 years minimum. Gonna eat up a lot more if you have a spouse who can't pull her weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 03:37 PM
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ahhhhh that would do it. my parents were hippies so my sex ed was basically "do whatever you want as long as no one gets pregnant"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 10:00 PM
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we've gone from "sex is for marriage" Were you born in 50s? Real question. I always think of the 60s as the start of the "free love" movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 09:46 PM
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So in a way, your fetish* is sexual restraint, and your concern is that it's getting harder to find people who share your fetish. defining "fetish" in the broadest sense, of course: as "any abnormal sexual behavior"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 09:13 PM
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I've read this before (men wanting unconditional love) and I don't understand it (and I'm a man). I don't love myself unconditionally, so expecting my wife to love me unconditionally is absurd. I think many TRPers don't love themselves, which is why the fantasy of a woman loving them unconditionally is so enticing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 09:07 PM
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Its easy to be promiscuous, and hard to be restrained, and without any real incentive to use restraint, most people simply don't even try. So why value restraint, then? Why would I shade a college girl for sleeping around when I would do the exact same thing in her position?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 08:59 PM
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wow it's almost like women have different effective strategies for finding a mate or something
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 08:50 PM
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I sometimes wonder why women are still permitted to even exist. They seem to be little more than an annoyance and a hindrance. Dude, put your pants back on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 08:46 PM
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And my point is that it's not the coldness that surprises me about Pem's accounts, it's the drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:15 PM
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"YOU ASSHOLE! you thought I LIKED you!? I was JUST BEING FRIENDLY! What the fuck is WRONG with you, ya PERVERT!" This doesn't sound passive-aggressive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:53 PM
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A version of that has happened to me more times than I can count (less dramatic, perhaps, but no less cold). Right -- the viscerally negative reaction from her is the part that doesn't square with me. I've been shut down many times by a woman who didn't want to talk, but doing it with histrionics and name-calling is totally incomprehensible to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:30 PM
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what? i said there were 3 possible explanations: either a difference in environments, or in your description of your actions, or in my visualization of your description.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:20 PM
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that's what i mean about missing context, because when i try to relate the actions you're describing into the world(s) i've lived in, it doesn't compute. so there's some missing detail -- either a difference in environments, or in your description of your actions, or in my visualization of your description. it's too tedious and pointless to try to locate that difference, hence why i really just wish i could be there to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:14 PM
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I cannot tell you how many times I have approached based on a look and a smile, and gotten shot down with "YOU ASSHOLE! you thought I LIKED you!? I was JUST BEING FRIENDLY! What the fuck is WRONG with you, ya PERVERT!" God damn, Pem, what I would give to see this stuff go down live. You describe it so frequently and vividly, I don't doubt that it happened to you... but man there is definitely some context that we're missing between us that lets me visualize, believe, or understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:07 PM
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ok, fair enough. just genuinely curious to know what you think is so unattractive about yourself that it immediately affects your interactions with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:19 PM
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what attributes do you possess that put you on a lower-tier rung, that are immediately evident to the point that they shape all your human interactions?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:06 PM
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set myself up for a possible scene (think: nuclear rejection) I cannot imagine how draining it must be to be this afraid of interacting with other humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 03:46 PM
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Realistically, they can't. A draft is political suicide regardless of numbers, and no "excuse" to inflate those numbers would ever be useful or necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 12:39 AM
1

If it's different when women do this, why? It's different because you cannot "accidentally" forget to wear a condom, so a man who has sex without a condom has no plausible deniability. He intentionally had unprotected sex and deserves the consequences. A woman can "accidentally" have unprotected sex because the pill is not 100% successful, especially when not used exactly right. So when a woman on the pill gets pregnant, it's impossible to prove how culpable she was in that pregnancy, and theref…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 12:32 AM
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I think this is a brilliant victory for feminism, because there's no way in hell we're having a draft ever again. So there's no functional change here, but it's a massive symbolic nod toward gender equality and takes away one of the biggest knocks on feminism (women don't have to die for their country, but men do! zomg disposability and inequality!).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 12:22 AM
1

the number of people called up in a draft is almost entirely unrelated to the number of people eligible for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 12:17 AM
2

But she didn't ask "where can I meet him." You just wish she did.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 06:45 PM
1

Sports, self improvement, gender issues, technology, how to get your mom to stop calling me...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 05:40 PM
1

dude I think about sex all the goddamn time doesn't mean I only care about getting my dick wet
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 05:17 PM
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OP is predictably demanding some super hot guy treat her as an equal just because 'women are your equals, I don't want to be disrespected or patronised'-well, no fucking shit! She didn't demand it. She said that's what she "wants." That you hear a demand in OP is your own little insecure hamster spinning.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 04:53 PM
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Yeah I knew how this was gonna go, you can't mention what women want without a bunch of terps frothing about how what women want is unreasonable. As if their own wants are so fundamentally grounded in reality.... Woman: "I want this in a man" TRP: YEAH BUT YOU DIDN'T EARN IT /facepalm
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 04:51 PM
2

lol get the fuck outta here not everyone's life is as basic as yours
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 04:46 PM
1

But if you look a little deeper, it’s the same old story once again: neediness and an obsession with being validated by others. I don't think I ever fully connected that until now. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 01:53 PM
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I like the part where he said "pretending" in every sentence and thought it helped his argument... when the point you're making is, "socially adept people can tell you're pretending, so it comes off as super needy"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 01:50 PM
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I did read it, thought it was really interesting. Wrapped up a bunch of things I already kind of knew about in a way that made me think. The conclusion of "this is the problem, right now TRP is the closest thing people get to an answer" really resonated with how I feel about things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 01:46 PM
0

Wish I had an answer to this, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 12:26 AM
5

I disagree completely. Autistic Brad Pitt doesn't get shit. He starts off with high SMV and it plummets as soon as he starts talking to women. His looks get him in the door, but he's not taking anyone home without some game.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 12:25 AM
1

Median household income in the US is $51,939. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States so if you're making 60k and she's making zero, you're still living better than half the country. Reading between the lines in your post, you sound generally...uh....lazy, disillusioned, and defeatist: Both parties have to enter the rat race that we call work just to get by. With all the difficulties these days, it just seems so out of reach. To make matters worse, the number of singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 08:26 PM
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To maintain a traditional relationship, you have to have substantial wealth. Ughhhh. Does wealth help? Yes. To you "have to have it?" Hardly. Here you are taking a TRP maxim (wealth is a sign of value, value is how you get laid) and making it into a rule (To maintain a traditional relationship, you have to have substantial wealth). This is kind of comment is why I'm skeptical when TRPers talk about how "obviously" TRP is just a set of ideas to consider applying to your life, and you should "take…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 08:00 PM
5

Exactly. Hitting on a woman who is very clearly not into you is creepy. If you're an attractive man, though, (1) more women are going to be receptive and (2) you're generally better at reading social cues. (2) is why TRP thinks that all you have to do is "be attractive," because reading social cues is actually an essential part of of being attractive as a man. Attractive men always make their shots because they know when to shoot. Send an autistic Brad Pitt into a bar and he'll come out confused…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 04:47 PM
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This is not true. You don't get called any of that until you can't take a rejection, or when you keep your intentions and desires (poorly) hidden in a friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 04:44 PM
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Except that folks like you call men who "make their intentions and desires clear" assholes, pushy, entitled, rapists, and predators. This is not true. You don't get called any of that until you can't take a rejection, or when you keep your intentions and desires (poorly) hidden in a friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 04:44 PM
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I self select to surround myself with nice people, but that makes my personal opinion (of niceness being a baseline) an it an example of selection bias. Exactly. Most people I know are nice because I don't associate with non-nice people any more than I have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 04:42 PM
0

Classic TRP post, reducing a complicated set of ideas each of which obviously exist on a spectrum to a binary "you're either with us or against us" mindset. +1 would consider joining your cult again, BP sucks!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 04:21 PM
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Once again, you think this is normal: Most of my married friends have longstanding issues with their wives based on a lack of communication and dead bedrooms. They spend their marriages walking on eggshells to avoid irritating their loving wife and giving her reason to beat him up verbally You and I are coming from such ridiculously different places in life I don't even know what to say. That you're just resigned to your fate, and want to argue on the internet that it's normal and there's nothin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 02:36 PM
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lol you're too lazy to fabricate any more of the story huh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 02:21 AM
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haha. I'm a 33 year old man, buddy. Most of my married friends have longstanding issues with their wives based on a lack of communication and dead bedrooms. They spend their marriages walking on eggshells to avoid irritating their loving wife and giving her reason to beat him up verbally. So you have shitty spineless henpecked friends who don't have the sack to dump the worthless harpy they married and you think that's the norm? It's not -- or at least not in my world. But it does help me unders…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 02:12 AM
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Please do look. Find a post in r/relationships where OP is female, posts multiple times, ignores advice, and doesn't get shat all over by the end of the ordeal. If you can, then you're really onto something. I agree there's definitely some hypocrisy with how the world treats nice guys/nice girls (tm) but trying to prove it via r/relationships, without acknowledging how r/relationships works, is crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 08:14 PM
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dafuq? i'm trying to think of a single friend of mine who has a legit complaint about his wife and i can't do it. wtf culture are you in where people being shitty to someone they married is the norm? if your wife isn't nice to you, get divorced, ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 08:02 PM
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remember we're in TRP-land so the only reason you're ever nice to anyone is if there's a direct benefit to you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 07:58 PM
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yes wives are so horrible to their husbands Pem god you must hang out with the most pathetic bunch of henpecked losers ever
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 07:58 PM
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the comments are mean to him because it's r/relationships and there's nothing it loves more than tearing apart OP. especially when it's OP's 4th update post and they ignored his advice in the first 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 07:56 PM
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Everything you need to know about that trainwreck is in the top comment on update #3: You and your girlfriend ran into your FWB at the mall, creating an extreme awkwardness, and you left them alone for half an hour? Are you some kind of idiot? His FWB is crazy and he is an idiot. She's the exact type of woman who needs "fucking him won't make him want to date you" pounded into her skull the same way nice guys need "no amount of being nice to her will make you want to fuck you." That being said, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 07:52 PM
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Yes, but... Most people are nice to one another. Niceness is the default state of human interaction. In general, most people can expect niceness on some level from their friends and acquaintances. Since someone you fucked falls into the "friends and acquaintances" bucket, yeah, you can expect them to be nice to you. However, most people don't have sex with each other. So you should not expect that, as copulation is not part of standard human interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 07:41 PM
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troof
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 06:14 PM
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Men want to have sex with their female friends. Usually they don't. Now now. I want to have sex with a lot of people, most of my female friends included. Doesn't mean I think it will ever happen, or that our friendship is primary based on me wanting to fuck them. But if you think the majority of dudes wouldn't want to have sex with their female friends (when both are single and it's not gonna get weird), I strongly disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 05:53 PM
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If I create moral boundaries which are rigid, these will include things such as integrity, the Golden Rule etc. People will walk over these boundaries, particularly women, because they have NO obligation as per the traditional definition of femininity, to stay true to their word. When someone crosses moral boundaries, call them out or cut them out. It's not complicated. Your analysis seems to be "there are shitty people in the world, so this is hopeless" while my analysis is "there are shitty pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 05:15 PM
2

I think you've unfortunately fallen into the trap of getting more and more obsessed with this stuff, and as a result you are unconsciously projecting it on your own life. why wouldn't I? Doesn't this all affect your life directly, Empress? "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 05:07 PM
2

Crush them within the bounds of ethics. There's nothing fundamentally unethical about beating someone out for a promotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 04:16 PM
1

"I'm sad and you're sad about it and I think you're attractive so maybe you should have sex with me" and to be honest I would have done if it hadn't sounded like the saddest most demeaning thing ever. Oh man this is exactly the level of game I had when I was 19 :( One of the core traits of the Nice Guy (TM) is that he can argue he's a "nice guy," not a "NICE GUY (tm)" and he believes he's a "nice guy" (not a NICE GUY (tm)). And because he's a guy, he actually has no idea how terrible a clingy NI…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 03:30 PM
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That post wasn't for you, it's for all the other people who might read it and think you were actually "ostracized" for turning a girl down, instead of just being a hyperbolic writer to further your own agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 03:19 PM
2

Ethical redpill would just be the self-improvement part of redpill, right? Make yourself the best you can be, given what you know about how the world works -- but manipulate no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 03:16 PM
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I've been called all manner of names, shunned, ostracized and maltreated just because I wouldn't date an unattractive girl. I'm calling bullshit on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 03:11 PM
2

Exactly. Buncha man-babies around here, guys in their 20s and up who still think that their mommy's advice of "just be a nice boy and you'll find a nice girl" is the final word in human behavior, and every time the world doesn't live up to this advice they should take up arms on the internet instead of just. fucking. adapting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 03:07 PM
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FWIW, from reading PPD, I think Gavin has some serious Nice Guy (TM) leanings. He reminds me of myself when I was younger and in college -- I had waaaay too much barely-repressed anger that my female peers, especially the more attractive ones, were basically living what I considered to be the dream life (the ability to get laid on any given night) when I was getting NOTHING. This anger manifested in all sorts of fucked up ways (including hating "sluts" and trying to change my whole value system …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 03:03 PM
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His original comment was something about how "men were designed for rape and women were design to be raped" but then he edited it to be something else after I commented.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 02:34 PM
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oh look at you editing your shitty comment like a pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 12:28 AM
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"designed"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 08:17 PM
4

Ah, watching TRP froth madly over their fear that someday they'll be in a relationship with a woman who can remember fucking other men: I can never decide if this is sad or funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 04:41 PM
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What makes you think women are going through education and getting good jobs for men? Because as a TRPer it is literally impossible for him to conceive of taking an action for a reason other than to improve his appeal to the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 01:51 PM
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"Rationalize"? Shitty people do shitty things. But it because they're shitty, not because they're female.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 01:47 PM
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the difference i was trying to highlight is in scope. "i am a master of this thing" is sexy. "i am better than you at everything" is not -- or at least, not to many women. the whole "i am the prize" attitude sounds more like the latter, which is probably while BP wasn't on board with you there. there's also a huge difference in how your self-image should be structured for effective pickup ("I am hot shit, I am the prize, all these women SHOULD want me") and how it should be structured for a stab…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 09:43 PM
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anything more in depth (sexual skills, examination of female psyche/motivation/reasoning, men's issues/rights, etc.) are totally nonexistent. I agree. However I think TRP's treatment of these same subjects is so bad, you'd be better off with nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 09:20 PM
1

Do you understand the difference between "I am the prize" and "I am the master of this subject"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 09:11 PM
3

Viable in what sense? In many ways, TRP is nuggets of gold in a mountain of shit. Are the nuggets worth digging through the shit? Depends on how bad you need the money, and how much you care about smelling like shit. I learned of a lot of what I now take for granted about female attraction from r/seduction. I found it infinitely more palatable than r/TRP, although it's been a few years so I can't speak for the current state of that community. It was more focused on picking up women, maintaining …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 09:10 PM
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right??? how is this even a PPD thing. "i used to be a helpful doormat, now i'm competent and confident and things are different! TRP IS THE ONE TRUE WAY"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 09:03 PM
2

Strive to be the top or be eaten like a prawn that's the cycle of life. lol so edgy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 09:00 PM
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BP claim that women only like men that treat them as equals. Dude, "treat them as equals" is a pretty fucking broad brush. Does she like when you're confident and cocky about a subject you've mastered? Yes. Does she like it when you tell her she's an overgrown teenager and you should make all the financial decisions? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 08:59 PM
3

Confidence expressed outwardly is cockiness. In the right situation chicks totally dig it. Do people actually think this isn't the case? This feels like a standard TRP strawman, "bluepill told me wimminz don't like cockiness!"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 08:56 PM
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exactly, this isn't "treating them as equals" this is straight up being deferential. people who have shit going on don't just drop everything to help some rando who asks for help, regardless of gender. people ask me for stuff all the time, i always give them the courtesy of a response but i always make it clear that my time is limited and valuable to me. i am "lucky" that this is true and not just me trying to play alpha. if your first response in life is "how much can i help you," then people o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 08:52 PM
0

funny what kind of assumptions we make, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 03:41 AM
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If you put effort into a relationship you can and should expect the other to put effort in, too. The point I got from this is that expecting their effort to be exactly equal to your is unreasonable and detrimental, especially if you don't explicitly negotiate expectiations.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 11:04 PM
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The number of people who think this is about the post and not the response that TRP had to the post had to it is AMAZING. But I really do appreciate you noting that, given the chance to vilify a woman or point out how ridiculously beta a poster was being, TRP overwhelmingly went with "vilify the woman." +1 would lol again
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 08:38 PM
1

Isn't the whole point about how the community reacted? The content of the post is kind of secondary
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 08:36 PM
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I think a very common problem in relationships is assuming that your partner cares about the same shit you care about, so when they do something, you evaluate it using your own caremeter instead of considering that they have a different perspective. So when you do something nice for your partner (i.e. put in a "nice coin") you think they see it as having the same value that you do -- so eventually you'll be rewarded with a nice coin sent back to you. Problem is, maybe what you did isn't actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 08:30 PM
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It works, then two weeks later you will have to remind him again. Wait, do I possess some kind of superpower because I can listen to my partner's complaints and make permanent behavioral changes based on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 05:17 PM
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Well, let's consider what it means to "be sex positive." Inwardly, you can think whatever you want. You want to be repulsed by promiscuity, fine, that's your prerogative -- I don't agree with you but I'm not gonna stop you. So you can be as sex negative as you want on the inside, it doesn't matter. But outwardly? You should be sex positive because that's how most modern people are. Unless you're interacting with a person or group who is known to be (ultra)conservative with their values, being se…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 08:32 PM
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Southern germany. I feel like this was the missing piece of info. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 06:07 PM
1

I often find myself genuinely baffled by the amount of shitty people some of the posters in this sub seem to hang with/come across. This is the thing that keeps me coming back here, honestly. Makes me appreciate how "lucky" I am that my friends of both genders, and wife, are extremely non-shitty. It's easy to think that this is the norm, but read TRP and PPD for a while and you'll realize it isn't for many, many folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 05:09 PM
2

This is how I feel around here. All these people letting all these shitty people into their lives and then concluding "AWALT" and not "I make bad relationship choices." Blows my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 05:05 PM
5

'm turned off by shy/virgins/girls who had few partners because if a woman has little to no sex partners she either is a lesbian, or has a low sex drive, or is waiting for prince chad. seriously, if she don't enjoy bangin'.... we aren't gonna work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 04:54 PM
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No, because I know that fat chicks can bang hot guys regularly without putting any effort in. I see this all the time here and it doesn't match my experience at all. Some questions so I can understand: 1) what age are these "fat chicks"? 2) where do they find the "hot guys"? 3) How fat is "fat"? Are we talking about 5-6, 150? or 5-6, 200lb? 4) what part of the country? The heavy girls I grew up around sure as fuck weren't touching the top 20% of guys out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 04:52 PM
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Women are only interested in the top 20% of males when it comes to casual sex. We hate knowing that they have to "settle" for us, Who the fuck is "us?" Get in the top 20%, bro. Isn't that the whole reason you read TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 04:49 PM
1

lol i think you're an idiot you think i'm an idiot another successful day on ppd!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 01:39 AM
0

So just to be clear, you don't want me to change your view on how TBP and TRP interact, and what the purpose of TBP is? If so, why did you mention TBP in the subject line and in every single paragraph of your post? Why even mention TBP at all? I'm not blue pill, but I'm perfectly willing to discuss hypergamy with you. Assuming that you have to troll blue pillers to have a discussion is... incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 11:58 PM
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bro you have three paragraphs in your post and 3 of them are about TBP only one has the word "hypergamy" derail the conversation? shit dude, we AGREE. i'm just trying to help you understand how your writing is a mess if your main point truly was "someone argue with me about hypergamy"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 11:37 PM
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I already told you that we agree that women seek high-status men, which is the definition of hypergamy as I understand it. There's nothing left to do here except try to make you understand how incoherent your initial post was if you truly wanted responses about hypergamy and not the relationship between the pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 10:00 PM
1

Yes I agree that women seek high-status partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 08:38 PM
1

With the amount of people turning into a conversation about everything in TRP, I'm having many troubles indeed. Yeah because your post was mainly about the relationship between TBP and TRP instead of hypergamy i stand by my previous advice of "take a tech writing class"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 08:37 PM
-3

I'm 33. I'm sure all my friends will get "cleaned out" in 10 years and I'll be sure to let you know just how right you were.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 02:23 PM
-1

more than 12 divorces where someone was "cleaned out"? um yeah, either you have a thousand friends or your friends as a group are making some seriously bad life choices. i know you guys fap to the divorce rape bogeyman but it's not anywhere near as common as you make it out to be, unless your definition of "cleaned out" is "didn't win primary custody"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 02:22 PM
-4

lmao how awful are your friends
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 12:55 PM
0

It's mostly about being Hindu really.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 12:55 PM
3

I love that you want to argue about hypergamy but devoted barely a phrase to it and didn't include a definition. You just said "guys, hypergamy is true!" and assumed everyone was inside your head and knew what you meant. WHAT ASPECTS OF HYPERGAMY? Do women seek high-status partners? Duh. Do women branch-swing to higher status partners? No more than men. Take a tech writing class FFS.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 12:54 PM
2

I can find that will criticize them. It's the only place that holds women to any kind of standard. Why do you need a place that criticizes women? Do you feel like women and their actions are above reproach in all other avenues of your life? (This is a genuine question)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 12:48 PM
0

It's a CMV about what TBP is (a satire/mockery/shame sub). I don't disagree with you. However the existence of a mockery sub for your movement doesn't mean that no one is willing/able to argue with you -- just that they aren't going to do it in the mockery/satire/shame sub. Right? So instead of worrying that /r/thebluepill isn't full of deeply reasoned, anti-TRP essays, try posting here if that's what you want. If you want someone to (try to) rebut the "TRPs claims of hypergamy, and (in the case…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 12:43 PM
0

If you want a rebuttal, post a CMV here and you'll get one. Maybe even from me, if I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 02:54 AM
5

TBP is people coming together to laugh at the most fucked up shit on TRP. There is plenty of red pill concepts I embrace, but holy shit, you guys post some WACK BULLSHIT sometimes, and it's pretty convenient to have a place to make jokes about wack bullshit without derailing any of the dead serious discussions over here. People who actually oppose RP theory and give a shit about trying to convince you they're right post in /r/purplepilldebate, not r/thebluepill. If you think no one tries to rebu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 02:17 AM
2

he literally told you he was "taking the piss" which is British for joking
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 01:43 AM
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it seems entirely plausible that female comedians would be funnier to women, and male comedians would be funnier to men since both groups would have more shared experiences so if you're a man that might be why you don't think female comedians are funny, and yet they can still have careers in comedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 10:29 PM
2

he comes across as a guy making jokes you freaking tightass
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 05:10 PM
1

the ability to be believed no matter what lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 12:42 AM
1

Pretty much anything about how a man should conduct himself I agree with. Pretty much anything about how women are stupid and childish, or how feminism is literally Hitler I disagree with. And I hate how it encourages resignation to shitty women because "AWALT," instead of raising your SMV so you can get women who aren't shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 05:12 PM
3

not everyone's life goal is to pump and dump chicks until they're 50 bro
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 09:30 PM
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"User points out that women have the option of dating passive deferential men" Except he didn't point that out. He asked us if we felt bad for women in abusive relationships, because he's trolling for people to say "yes" so he can say "well they deserve it because they choose douchebags." I mean seriously, he wrote this: Hamster mind usually does its job by rationalizing the situation in some way because dominance/alpha traits >>> being a good person in these cases. So it's pretty fucking obviou…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 09:19 PM
6

what's there to even discuss here? anger phaser thinks women who date douches deserve it. news at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 08:39 PM
7

I kind of wonder why guys make posts like this. is it really just to find an audience to rant about how those slutty sluts deserve it for not dating him?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 08:35 PM
2

are you even responding to the right post here? i don't have a "final point" or even a "point" really if i did have a point there it was "oh, i see what the game is here, you're just another cookie cutter anger phaser who wants to bitch about women making what he considers bad choices" and i'm not terribly interested in that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 08:18 PM
10

oh jesus this trope again "women who date men who aren't me deserve whatever happens to them because i would do literally anything if they would touch me pee pee"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 08:04 PM
3

And yet in your latest post you said this: The issue isn't what TRP believes here -- the issue is more women's belief that they shouldn't suffer any adverse consequences for their choices. So you literally said [i'm not going to talk about what TRP believes] - [but here's my beef with slutty women] which is why I laughed and said "classic Pem"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 07:16 PM
2

The same reason I feel uneasy admitting that much of TRP resonates with me: because the extremists have ruined it for the sane people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 07:09 PM
2

he meant lack of self esteem on the part of the person being abused
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 07:07 PM
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and men who have been patiently implementing shitty advice from women and feminized men and seen that advice fail time and again, Shitty advice is not abuse bro this is why i can't take your shit seriously before you ask, yes i have empathy for anyone in an abusive relationship, especially those who have children/financial reasons for not leaving
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 07:05 PM
1

lmao classic Pem, changing the conversation so he can rant about the entitlement of women instead of staying on topic
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 06:57 PM
3

Exactly, then they run into me and are like "wow I didn't know there were guys this alpha who aren't douchebags, I'm never leaving" but seriously you can turn out all the fake swagging alphas you want from this place, dudes with actual SMV who aren't douchebags are still gonna crush them in LTR game
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 06:52 PM
2

Agreed, but I think they take the offer for granted until they lose it -- it's just always there, so being reminded of it has little appeal. I'd compare it to a man's strength -- when someone asks or expects you to carry or move a heavy object, that doesn't validate you, right? You know you can do it, you know people want you to do it. nbd. But if you ever get injured, or just plain get old, then suddenly no one will ever ask you to complete a strength-based task again. And suddenly, you'll miss…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 01:58 PM
1

I feel like the whole women-are-stupid-and-feminism-is-the-enemy dogma is exclusive to TRP, but like I said, I haven't been to seddit in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 02:41 PM
1

I'll admit I haven't been to r/seduction in a while but I know it helped me massively in understanding female attraction and getting over oneitis and being a "nice guy," and I don't ever remember the language there being as hateful as r/TRP. But yeah, it's still about gaming women. I just feel like the game there is much more superficial and attraction-focused -- it still leaves you room to treat a woman as an equal after she wants to bang you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 02:27 PM
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She may not feel like she needs that validation now, but just wait until she's older and she'll suddenly miss the validation of guys wanting to have sex with her a lot That they want to validates her, but the act itself does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 12:42 PM
-1

Do you think I am a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 12:38 PM
1

TRP material promotes this claim more than any other. That for a boy to become a man requires anger. That all men and boys should share in this mutual outrage. These are men who've taken too much offence from the times they've been scorned or ignored. It is pitiful and a childishly supposed requirement. I regret that I have but one upvote to give. TRP validates men's anger and then amplifies it in a echo chamber of bitterness. That's not how boys become men, that's how boys become angry manchild…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 12:37 PM
2

You say that like it's a bad thing. Anger might be a byproduct of the growing process but that doesn't mean it's a emotion you should cultivate. That TRP gives men an echo chamber for their hate instead is one of it's greatest flaws IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 12:28 PM
0

Both subs like fucking, but only one is overflowing with bitterness and misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 12:25 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 12:19 PM
0

But if they didn't there, where would they? I'd suggest r/seduction. It's like r/theredpill for people who actually like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 03:52 AM
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I'm just pointing out that at its core, the question is "sex or no sex." I strongly disagree. The question is "validation or no validation." Sex and validation are only synonyms to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 02:40 AM
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My only point is that these solipsistic motherfuckers think everyone assigns the same value to sex that they do, and therefore anyone who has access to [shitty, casual, pump-and-dump] sex has no right to complain about anything. If you think your own fee-fees about getting laid are objective, universal, reality and not just your own personal mix of brain chemistry and life experiences... that is exactly solipsism. I have no interest in getting into a long conversation about whose pathetic life i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 01:11 AM
2

if the African kid was on the internet he'd probably be making hateful posts about how picky you are, too
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 07:42 PM
1

see this is why analogies aren't actually useful in a debate setting
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 04:55 PM
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This exactly is what I mean by solipsism. In your analogy, there's a car and both people see it with the same value, so saying "what are you complaining about, you already have one car!" makes sense. But the point is that many women don't want or value that car the way (incel) men do. That doesn't mean the men are wrong, or that the women are wrong -- just that framing the argument around the assumption that everyone values the car equally is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 03:43 PM
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Fair point, I should have phrased it differently. "Deserve" is not a concept I care to debate, but yes, I am familiar with it. As much as I am enjoying your socratic method, if you have a point you'd like to make please use a few sentences or even paragraphs to get to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 02:51 AM
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"Deserve" is not a concept I am familiar with. His actions led to some results. This does not imply anything universal about those actions or results, but we can still say quite confidently that these particular actions and results are correlated.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 02:46 AM
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His success is caused by a number of things, one of them being hard work. This statement in no way suggest that all instances of "hard work" should or will be followed by "success."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 02:37 AM
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it's solipsistic as shit. "i would love to get casual sex! therefore women who can get casual sex should be thrilled!" ADULT WOMEN WANT MORE THAN YOUR SHITTY CASUAL SEX DUDE
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 02:28 AM
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meets people's fear of being politically incorrect yo me telling you when you're wrong has nothing to do with political correctness bro if you don't want to talk about fight club don't go to /r/fightclubdebate
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 02:24 AM
0

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 02:21 AM
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um Out of 100 women I talk to, I'll get 6-8 numbers. Out of those numbers I'll get 1 date (maybe 2). that's hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 12:15 AM
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You can do the whole thing with egalitarianism and communication though, and then you don't have this weird language where your wife isn't your equal. So far, I've never had to pull "Captain's privilege" and I hope to never need it. Exactly! So you have this whole mental hierarchy of being in charge, but you admit you've never actually "pulled rank." So what's the actual point here? You guys work things out and she probably defers to sometimes not because you're "Captain," but because in every r…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 09:46 PM
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Look, if it works for you (and her), great. But that second part (and her) is an afterthought all too often, because TRP is a bunch of men talking about how to get what men want... right? So that's generally what bothers me about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 09:38 PM
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Calling this "entitlement" is a stretch. Your success is mainly due to hard work and confidence -- but "entitlement" is generally used to refer to the idea that you deserve something by default, instead of by working toward that thing. The driving factor her seems to be that you believe you can attain sleeping with these women, not that you are entitled to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 06:02 PM
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These things are not true though, they are just words you are typing that you want to be true because it reinforces your worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 06:56 PM
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I don't any men who have wilfully fucked a sex trafficker or child exploiter You don't think that's primarily because sex traffickers and child exploiters are men? Show me a hot woman with shitty character and I'll show you a line of guys who'd have sex with her. To suggest otherwise is laughable and totally ignorant of the SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 06:45 PM
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In fact, we have a phrase 'don't stick your dick in crazy' for a reason, so what you listed would actually cause many of us to be repulsed. Hahaha, oh yes, of course we are such a noble gender that we'd never be attracted to bad/crazy girls. It's so uncommon we made up a phrase to guiding other men: "don't stick your dick in crazy" Because like many phrases in pop culture it references a hilarious thing that doesn't actually happen in real life, and there's not thousands of dudes banging unstabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 06:44 PM
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Nah, I'm just laughing at Pem and the axes he grinds around here. Should've kept it to myself probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 05:14 PM
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Yes, basically you have to trick a girl on some level. Girls are deceptive (which is why they wear makeup). The conscious part of their minds can't handle the thought of sex I agreed with your first two paragraphs and then you just went full Terp in the last one. Sigh. Apprentice, indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 11:14 PM
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Right, and that one was almost 50/50 dominant/balanced. Which doesn't fit the thesis of "strongly prefer dominant men" That sounds like some women want a dominant partner and some want an equal partner. Which I would agree with. If you're looking for someone to tell you "some women want a submissive partner and would advertise it on their dating profile..." keep looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 11:03 PM
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Woman: I like to be dominated in bed TRP: ALL WOMEN LIKE TO BE DOMINATED IN ALL ASPECTS OF LIFE
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 10:59 PM
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The issue I take with TRPers is that they frequently fail to see the distinction between dominance in the bedroom and dominance in the relationship. The fact that you appear to think this data -- which is exclusively based on sexual preferences, not lifestyle ones -- is some kind of "gotcha" only furthers my confidence that this distinction is lost on far too many of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 10:54 PM
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i actually mainly use it to locate stupid TRPers and yell at them, but my therapist says that's not "positive" so I had to put something else down
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 10:03 PM
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TBP doesn't have a positive purpose at all. people coming together to scoff at the fucked up shit on TRP has the positive impact of me not completely giving up on humanity though
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 09:29 PM
1

the only thing missing is the acknowledgment that most men 80-90%, probably need plastic surgery so they can look like chads. LMFAO the extremes people go to to excuse themselves of culpability in their own love lives
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 06:49 PM
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hahaha seriously. i was an awkward engineering student whose hair started falling out when he was 21. still got laid... these guys cling to the idea that physical attractiveness is SO ESSENTIAL to men getting laid because it gives them an easy explanation for their own lack of sex, and it's something hard to change so this explanation doesn't create a call to action.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 06:40 PM
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I'm pretty sure this is a scientific fact God forbid you confirm this fact before shitposting It concerns me that when I do get a real girlfriend Yeah how about you date some people before you tell me how relationships and bonding work
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 05:30 PM
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Also, I'm really not sure how presenting my argument in entirety at the start, will lead to shorter OPs. Um that's not what a thesis statement is
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 12:09 AM
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Also, I'm really not sure how presenting my argument in entirety at the start, will lead to shorter OPs. Um that's not what a thesis statement is
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 12:09 AM
1

Well, they are. But maybe part of the reason you feel the need to be verbose is that you're trying to present your argument incrementally and give the reader all the evidence they need to organically reach your conclusion. If you told us from the start where you were trying to take us, you might feel like you could be terser later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 10:45 PM
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If you take away anything from this conversation, let it be that your next PPD post should have a thesis statement. Interpreting the collection of facts/opinions you presented would be a lot easier if you first told me where you trying to lead me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 10:41 PM
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Call BP out next time they make a thread saying "AWALT is misogynistic because not every woman is like that" and we'll talk. The difference in that case would be that AWALT is a well-established term here (do you even sidebar, bro) and the thread would be a probably be a discussion about what exactly AWALT means. "Rape culture" is not a well-established term in PPD and we are not discussing "what rape culture means" here, so I'm not sure I exactly buy the parallel. But yes, any time I see someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 10:35 PM
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I like how women rationalize settling down with betabux losers when they start losing their looks and realize that the alphas treated them like garbage. I don't trust women who say this garbage when they didn't settle down earlier. Explain to me why the type of man she settles down with changes. Are you retarded? I had one night stands with drunk sluts until I got sick of it. Then I dated for a while. Now I'm married. OH MY GOD THE TYPE OF WOMAN I SETTLED DOWN WITH CHANGES! I'M TOTES HYPERGAMOUS…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 09:57 PM
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IMO you're conflating "rape culture" with domestic violence here and in the comment you linked. Domestic violence is at best a small subset of the entire "rape culture" concept and at worst, something entirely separate. This is what I would say: A womanperson can and should be aware of the red flags for abuse in a relationship, both emotional and physical, and tread very carefully if they if their partner begins to show these signs. A manperson can and should be aware of the red flags for hyperg…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 09:47 PM
1

says something stupid about physical violence, gets called out for it, responds with boilerplate argument about how men are the targets of physical violence that doesn't address the call-out at all. accuses other poster of deflection LOL i'm not really interested in your anti-feminist circlejerk, i'm just here to tell you that you said something stupid on the internet, bro. carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 09:32 PM
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Yeah, why not? This is the essence of privilege. If you take me and my clone, and give me a head start (education, strength, wealth) I'll beat him, and then I'll pass that advantage onto my offspring and they'll beat his offspring. Doesn't mean I'm superior to him, just means I'm not so incompetent that I squandered my head start.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 09:29 PM
2

It's like interviewing for a new job while you still have an old job. actually it's like going to your new job but still punching the time clock at your old job.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 08:46 PM
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and now no one has to treat interactions with men that way, because people don't just fucking assault each other when someone disagrees with them in 2016. so it's still equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 08:44 PM
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I mean shit if we've really managed to "keep women down" this universally, this long, how the fuck are men not superior? If you have two groups of equal ability, and one is given a head start on the other for some reason, it only stands to reason that they would maintain that advantage. So if men and women were equally capable, but men were in a socially super position, you would assume men would be able to "keep women down" if that was their goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 08:41 PM
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You're trying to draw a parallel between the existence/acknowledgement of rape culture and something else, though? What is that other thing you are saying is "like rape culture"? Your conclusion in #1 is "people say that rape culture leads to reasonable behavioral maxims for women", and in #2, "hypergamy and male disposability leads to reasonable behavioral maxims for men", right? I disagree with this because the maxims drawn from the concept of rape culture focus on actions toward men you don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 07:55 PM
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Why is explanation 1) perfectly logical, but explanation 2) baseless unfounded misogyny? If I had to start somewhere, it would be that (1) is a pretty simple chain of reasoning, where each concept can be expressed in a sentence and (2) is almost a full page of you pontificating about how the world works and writing entire paragraphs where almost every sentence would be labeled "citation needed" on wikipedia. That being said, the primary difference here is that in (#1), the conclusion is "recogni…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 07:18 PM
1

So we agree then, the "settling" is a fact of life and not something to obsess over nor be afraid of?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 11:35 AM
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you should've kept reading, there were a lot of literary references that totally proved he wasn't just cherry-picking anecdotes and weaving them into his own personal bias to jerk himself off
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 04:11 AM
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The important word in my post was "fear," not "settling." Given that there's 3.5 billion members of the opposite sex on the planet, EVERYONE settles. To take this (fundamentally obvious) information and allow it to cripple you emotionally and become a point of obsession in your life -- that's the red pill. You're not the hottest man on the planet, you don't have the biggest dick, you don't make the most money, you don't tell the best jokes, you're not the best in bed, and you fail to reach the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 02:09 AM
8

why can't you both be assholes?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 09:53 PM
4

The nice guys people refer to as putting nice coins into women for sex are the ones you want to worry about, not us. False dichotomy. Anyone with a functioning brain has the capacity to worry about both "Nice Guys" and hardcore TRPers. Vilifying "nice guys" does not let TRP off the hook for all the fucked up shit they perpetuate in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 09:28 PM
10

please tell me more about romance Mr romance expert
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 08:13 PM
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I'm confident in its accuracy because this is how naive, lonely, teenage me fantasized about love and relationships with women. Once I figured out that we're all just people, it went away.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 07:28 PM
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IMO it's from men who are so desperate to find love, they falsely assume they would be so grateful to have found love that they would love unconditionally. It's one of the most absurd ideas in TRP canon.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 07:22 PM
2

RedPill: the unshakeable fear that deep down, every woman you've ever had a relationship with was settling for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 05:27 PM
3

i think you can say this about 75% of PPD posts
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 02:52 AM
3

Personally, I think it's considerably lower because the incentives against false reporting are practically non-existent In your personal opinion, which of these numbers is larger in the United States: 1) The number of false rapes that are reported 2) The number of rapes that are go unreported
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 10:43 PM
6

it's when you get audited by a woman that things get really fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 10:30 PM
6

what if i spend hours of my life debating amoral sexual strategy on the internet does that count
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 10:20 PM
1

PPD in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 10:18 PM
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it's because tax preparation is mainly about RECEIVING PENETRATION so women are UNIQUELY SUITED for it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 10:17 PM
1

Of course it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 10:15 PM
5

In general I think sick burns are the only ethical action one can take when faced with PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 04:11 PM
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Yeah, she only says that he's a nice guy as in not the assholes she used to date. The rest is just your own interpretation talking. Exactly, it's kind of ridiculous how far people will take stuff once they're viewing it through the lens of their own warped little worldview. Facts: 1) woman on Facebook says she had to date a lot of assholes to realize she wanted a relationship with a nice guy. 2) Woman is arguably more attractive than man. Everything else: Your own personal hamster.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 02:36 PM
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Are you getting the point? The point being that you can't tell the difference between actual health problems and your personal aversion to female promiscuity?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 11:44 AM
1

Sigh. What a sad -- and inaccurate -- way to see the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 12:55 AM
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I'm not baffled in the slightest, dude. I just don't have a lot of sympathy for hateful assholes, no matter what the source or target of that hate is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 12:54 AM
2

I think TRP would recommend against acknowledging white male privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:36 PM
1

It's not worth the risk of a possible false rape accusation. Find another ho. oooh good catch on that one. i would totally have gone home with her and dealt with the 1/10000 chance of the false rape accusation... dammit failed TRP again :(
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:02 PM
4

exactly, that's why you should be worrying about how to beat out the other nice guys for quality women instead of bitching on the internet about the mating habits of low-quality women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 08:58 PM
12

seems accurate, but you forgot to recommend lifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 08:54 PM
3

when you typed this i'm sure it felt like such a sharp quip it would brilliantly solidify your position and end the discussion... but actually the only person who knows what you're talking about is YOU. so do you want to elaborate? as someone not smart enough to see the TRP light i sometimes need simple and obvious things explained to me with full sentences
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 08:50 PM
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The 20% get richer and the 80% have to jack off to increasingly hardcore pornography because their wife is "too stressed out." I love how every TRP post always has a sad little personal anecdote buried in there if you look close enough. If you guys weren't so hateful, I'd feel bad for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 08:46 PM
4

does it ever seem funny to you that TRP is dedicated to finding ways to sleep with the women you hate, instead of finding ways to seduce the women who are different?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 08:39 PM
3

not my woman bro
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 08:12 PM
8

seriously what pop culture is this guy living in
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 07:03 PM
5

Why did you even say "marriage" in the subject line when this was really just gonna be a personal story about how proud you are of your frugality and how much you don't want to be married to a woman who compels you to try to buy your way to status? Marriage doesn't fundamentally have anything to do with living beyond your means. You just assume it does because you're using Beta Bob's marriage as a proxy for all marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 07:00 PM
5

hahaha this is the most insidious shit i have ever read
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 10:08 PM
8

Dominated in the bedroom does not mean dominated in life. Holy fuck how many people don't understand this
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 10:02 PM
4

Right? How fucking backwards is the causation here!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 09:59 PM
2

Prostitution is legal in several first-world countries and hasn't destroyed the fabric of society in any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 03:12 PM
4

no, this is exclusively the domain of tumblr and TRP's feminist boogeyman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 03:00 AM
1

this sounds like common sense advice
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 02:01 AM
3

SEE GUYS I CAN'T TURN IT OFF
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 07:57 PM
1

Software engineer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 07:09 PM
1

Yep, this is my answer too. Seddit is for guys who love women and want to fuck them. TRP is for guys who hate that they want to fuck women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 06:11 PM
5

Hi there, Cornell computer science nerdboy checking in here, being intelligent and having a real career in your 20s is actually a great way to slay yuppie city girl pussy if you can bring a little game along with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 05:46 PM
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ahahahahaha it's the moral failing of women that guys nerds with no social skills at one of the most academically rigorous universities in the world don't get laid as regularly as gang members there can be LITERALLY NO OTHER EXPLANATION
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 05:43 PM
4

I think that if my guy friends were bitter misogynist assholes and my girl friends were hypergamous sloots looking for beta bucks I'd be able to tell, but see what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 11:36 PM
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all i can think is that you don't know the post i'm referencing in my post. https://archive.is/3Esxv "Radical feminist party line" ahahahahah oooh yes i'm the pc boogeyman! here to tell you that this: She started to scream no and so he punched her in the face and threatened to kill her if she didn't shut up, and then he finished. is not politically correct to do!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 11:35 PM
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You're telling me that of all the people you know, no girl has ever become interested in jerk, no guy has ever had a girl get more interested in him when he pays less attention to her. uh, of course that happens, it's basic human attraction shit. it's when you guys are like "women aren't capable of real love" that i'm like "wow what a bunch of fucked up assholes, thank god i don't have to deal with them outside the internet"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 11:16 PM
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But the only people who would do that are only those who subscribe to a particular set of political views which are associated with political correctness. hahahahahahaha you mean when people laugh at stuff like "my friend told me he violently raped this girl but i dunno, there's two sides to every story so i'm not gonna judge him" cuz that is some fuuuuuucked up shit and exactly why i am here to laugh at you assholes yeah buddy i'm a slave to political correctness and you're just 3edgy5me
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 11:12 PM
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The most interesting thing is hearing TRPers describe what they think TBP is, when the only defining characteristic of TBP is "people who get together to laugh at TRP" TBP has no ideology and is not prescriptive. I agree with many points TRP makes, but I also think you guys come up with some insanely fucked up shit. Guess what, when I agree with you, I don't say anything. When you say fucked up shit, I make jokes about it. If it helps you sleep at night to think we're a bunch of pure anti-TRP bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 10:39 PM
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They are only interested in maintaining and upholding their solipsistic worldview which is based on their moral narcissism, and to keep it from falling apart, so no "proof" ever will make them change their opinion on anything. Actually I'm mainly interested in jerkin it to the fucked up shit you guys say and thanking my lucky stars everyone I know is less shitty than TRP and the women they interact with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 10:33 PM
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Imperfect men can't expect for women to "look beyond" beauty standards Um, yes, they absolutely can and do every day, and then they end up here and they're bitter as fuck that women didn't magically fall into their neckbeardy lap. But seriously no one gives a shit if you want to tear up a "fat acceptance" strawman, so take off your pants and go to town. ARGLE BARGLE FAT WOMEN ARE LITERALLY HITLER BUT FEMINISM OBAMA MEANS NO ONE BUT LE EDGY ME SEES IT ARGGGGGH
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 10:27 PM
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well, i just looked at your post history and i count 25 PPD posts in the last hour. like you just spent 60 minutes here and left a comment every <150 seconds. PPD, all day, every day. Until all you see is the world through this fucked up lens. It's not healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 05:13 PM
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this is the first clueful thing i've ever seen you post, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 05:01 PM
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The ones who aren't afraid of getting hurt by women are the ones most fearful of living without them this is the least sensical thing i have ever heard "no ur afraid of living without women because you're not afraid of women hurting u" i mean seriously what no u good internettin there, friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 04:55 AM
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Women flock to assholes willingly, even when they have options. lol not on my planet
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 11:21 PM
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Guys like you have a such a hilarious, moralizing axe to grind. Waaaaaaah MEN appreciate NICENESS! WOMEN don't! Waaaaah men are so clearly superior er I mean I'm not saying that at allllllll waaaaaaaaah! The world is full of bitches (isn't this like, a founding principle of TRP??) and they get laid left and right because MEN WILL FUCK YOU EVEN IF YOU'RE A BITCH. Niceness doesn't matter in the short-term for either gender, because short term is about ATTRACTION, and attraction has nothing to do w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 07:58 PM
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There are a bunch of things about TRP that are on point. Confidence, assertiveness, self-improvement, these are all things that guys need to have or work on to date effectively. Abundance mentality, self-respect, etc. Basically anything in TRP that is about how the man conducts himself is valuable and worth considering. Oh, and yeah, most women do enjoy a little dominance in the bedroom. And in a long-term relationship, you need to keep working on all this stuff to MAINTAIN attraction. If it hel…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 04:24 PM
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I didn't flippantly tell him to "forget about it," I admitted that I didn't know how to fix his obsession. My point was that it is absolutely eating him alive and it's obvious in every post he makes here. Since you asked, I'm 5'8". My wife is 5'10". And I beta buxed her so hard last night.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 11:24 AM
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This was an arranged thing through my parents alpha AF amirite
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 09:37 PM
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Hi Ben, I don't make serious comments around here very often, which maybe will give this one a little weight: Your obsession with your own shortness is going to ruin your life if it hasn't already. I don't know how to help you, and its clear you don't either, but you're tied with Xemnas in my book for "guy who needs to stop coming here for his own sanity." Short guys can get laid and have fulfilling relationships. It happens every day. The thing all those guys have in common is that they don't w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 09:36 PM
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Guess we don't agree on what "invisible" means eh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 10:21 PM
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So who are these mythical average "invisible" men, then? I don't know any. You don't know any. But the difference is that you're convinced they exist. 77% of men over 25 have been married. http://www.citylab.com/work/2014/09/not-married-the-odds-that-you-never-will-be-are-higher-than-ever/380686/ 95% of 25-to-45 year old men have lost their virginity. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all-about-sex/201106/are-there-really-40-year-old-virgins Hard to think that the "average man" wouldn't be in…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 09:33 PM
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Average looking men are invisible to women. This is so laughably false it's hilarious. Average men, invisible? REALLY? Ok so either every single guy I know is well above average... or you're full of shit. In my social circle I'd say 60% of the guys have some kind of serious relationship going on, and another 20% of those are bouncing from random hookup to random hookup... if average men are "invisible" to women then I must have lucked into knowing some amazingly above-average people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 09:08 PM
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lol you just type what you want to be true, regardless of reality. but i guess that's TRP in a nutshell. anyway in case it's not obvious i disagree completely, but i live in a world of non-shitty humans where people have empathy and humanity. before reading TRP i didn't realize how rare this was. dear shitty, bitter, and apparently ugly dude: women know it sucks to be you. believe me, any woman who interacts with you enough to "know" you most certainly thinks to herself "wow, it sure sucks to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 08:38 PM
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Unattractive men can become attractive men far more easily than ugly women can become attractive women. Being an ugly dude with confidence and a fun personality = plenty of pussy, commitment (if you're into it) and a normal life. Being an ugly girl with confidence and a fun personality = no commitment, ever, because no one wants to have an ugly girlfriend no matter how cool she is. This is why society pities ugly men less. If you're a man who can't get laid, it's because you're ugly on the insid…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 08:34 PM
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Everything you just said also applies to how men feel about unattractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 08:28 PM
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Ok, show me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 01:44 AM
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Inside every joke is a kernel of truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 08:16 PM
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you don't know what Title IX is huh
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 08:00 PM
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not at all, but you gotta understand, most TRPers are so far from an equitable or functional relationship that just scaring their wife into fucking them is a notable improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 07:53 PM
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your anecdotal, unattributed feminist opinion. This is basically every TRP post involving feminism ever... making up something the feminist boogeyman they fap to, er, quake in fear of, could possibly say. Of course they can never cite it, and it doesn't sound at all reasonable to people who spend time in the real world....
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 06:58 PM
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it's not about fixing the relationship. it's about gaining enough power in the relationship to get your dick wet
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 06:54 PM
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It sure seems liken lot of men are getting divorce raped. It sure seems seems This is what happens when you live in the echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 03:18 PM
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Implied consent basically means that, by basis of some action, such as going on a date, you are narrowing the boundary you have to the man, in terms of sexual interaction, more so than if you did not take that action. narrowing the boundary you have to the man That is not what "implied consent" means. Consent is binary, you either consent to something or not. "Narrowing a boundary" sounds like "getting closer to consent," but it's not consent. A woman going on a date with me is not implying any …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 11:39 PM
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oh you're adorable
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 11:33 PM
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posts like this are why TRP is accused of being a bunch of clueless teenagers
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 11:15 PM
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We're not saying that if the girl thinks it's a date she won't think the man will try to escalate, were saying that if the girl does not know if it's a date or friendly outing she won't assume he will try to escalate. So if I'm following you, you're basically saying, women should know that 100% of the time a man wants to do something with them, he is ultimately trying to sleep with them? What does the phrase "implied consent" have to do with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 11:12 PM
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It's right here in this thread in the OP Quote it then, please. I don't see it, but my interpretation may be off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:04 PM
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yeah the word "consent" in the title is totally misleading. should a woman know that going back to a dude's place means that he might try to sleep with her if things keep going well? yes. but that's not consent, that's awareness of social cues. something both genders should have if they're going to navigate the dating scene. (cough netflixandchill)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 09:34 PM
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Apparently it's not to some women. Citation please? I've never heard a woman express surprise at a man who was on a date with them trying to escalate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 09:32 PM
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there isn't any emphasis on women being aware of what they might get into, and putting a lot of pressure and possible guilt on the man. Dude, this is some stupid-ass shit. Any kind of date and any kind of escalation during a date -- these things all lead toward hooking up, and women know this just as well as men do. But acceptance of the date, or any escalation of the date, is not IMPLIED CONSENT to anything except that escalation. She goes home with you because she's thinking about sleeping wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 08:49 PM
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weird af tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 08:44 PM
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Just like the father can't choose for the mother to support an unwanted child, the woman shouldn't be able to chose for the father. I agree with you in theory. In practice, though, you have to be an incredibly shitty person to wash your hands of your offspring (accidental or not). So I'm not gonna shed tears over the fact that the state won't let you do it. Real men have their shit together enough to not get random women pregnant, and if they somehow did, they do the right thing and take a tiny …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 05:17 PM
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How is a single instance of unprotected sex somehow equal to an 18 year financial burden? Those two things don't seem very equitable to me. Reproduction is fundamentally inequitable. The world is fundamentally inequitable in almost all gender relations, especially this one. It sucks that it's not "fair," I agree! But until we make babies inside test tubes and not women's bodies, it's going to remain "unfair." Yes you can. It's called abortion. YOU can't get an abortion. Women get abortions. Reme…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 05:09 PM
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I see no reason why a man has to financially support her selfishness. His decision to have unprotected sex with her seems like a good enough reason to me. if you create a life you don't get to walk away from it. Sorry that being a decent human being is something the state has to force guys like you to do. And I say this as someone who so pro-chioce I'd describe myself as pro-abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 03:47 PM
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The woman is the one actually raising the child and paying for it. You're the one who is just paying for it. You want to trade?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 03:05 PM
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it's actually an awful example of entitlement if you're a human being and not a robot that scours the earth for TRP biotroofs
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 11:45 PM
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Please quote the article so I can understand how you see a "level of entitlement" in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 09:13 PM
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Just because YOU wouldn't doesn't mean shit. If you ran a "get a date with Shakira" contest tons of dudes would sign up. Even if 95% of women were non-hypergamous and actually loathed celebrities, you would still have no shortage of famewhores signing up for a date with Clooney.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 09:12 PM
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This didn't happen in this situation, but I'm sure she would have married him! So this is an example of hypergamy because of [thing that didn't happen, but it, like, totally could have!] ? it just means marrying someone of higher status. That's not what TRP says: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2zckqu/updated_glossary_of_terms_and_acronyms/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 08:51 PM
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why does it matter if i think your feelings are valid? how will your actions change?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:56 PM
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Theres got to be a reason that you truly don't believe most women, in general, would touch an Alpha like this. Why the fuck do you think anyone believes that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:21 PM
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So telling someone 'stop being bitter' is pointless. The fuck it is. I've been wronged plenty of times in my life, and I chose not to be a bitter obsessive over it by cultivating positive experiences, achievements and friends. When my ex walked out five years ago (directly into another man's house), I could have been a bitter asshole about it for MONTHS if not YEARS, but I made the conscious choice that I wasn't going to badmouth her and I wasn't going to vent to the whole world about how much s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:16 PM
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I didn't read a goddamn thing in your post, but anytime someone says "what if X is true, am I justified to be bitter?" the answer is "you only live one life, and being bitter about your circumstance will make it worse." don't ask me for permission to be mad, or bitter, because it doesn't matter if you have permission or justification -- even if feminists killed your family and kicked your dog, you will still have A BETTER LIFE if you're not bitter about it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:08 PM
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that's why you need to find "a therapist that can actually help you" and not just "a therapist." i don't know how to do this, but i don't think your obsessive navelgazing here will ever take you anywhere worth going.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 09:17 PM
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A therapist that can actually help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 08:43 PM
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i have no idea why i thought you of all people would be capable of staying on topic or understanding the scope of a discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 08:35 PM
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how the fuck is that relevant to anything the original post i made here was just proof that TRP endorses making women feel insecure about their age as a means of lowering their confidence idgaf if you think it's right or wrong, my only point is that it's fucking endorsed, you can tell by the upvotes that you guys so desperately want to hamster this point away and argue about WHY IT'S OKAY TO ATTACK HER CONFIDENCE is immaterial idgaf why you think it's fair or you need to do it, just don't bullsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 08:26 PM
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how the fuck do you think that response addresses anything i said not a single goddamn word i typed suggested that i needed additional proof about the correlation between youthfulness and attractiveness i am making fun of you for trying to justify being a manipulative asshole under the pretense of "WELL BUT BUT BUT IT'S TRUEEEE" and your response just reinforces my point jesus christ no wonder you guys need step-by-step instructions for talking to women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 07:42 PM
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this comeback was so bad it would get laughed out of middle school
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 07:26 PM
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nah i mean it's hilarious that you're trying to equate "explicitly bringing up the fact that you're more attracted to a younger version of her" with "not lying" but what the fuck else should i expect from a bunch of autistic TRPers I'M NOT LYING! HOW CAN YOU BE MAD I'M JUST TELLING THE TRUTH WOMEN JUST CAN'T HANDLE THE BIOTRUTH GOD I'M SO EDGY self-improvement intensifies
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 07:23 PM
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i just think it's cute watching you try to avoid answering a simple and direct question while desperately needing to get the final word.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 07:18 PM
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So that's a yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 07:14 PM
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lol well played
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 07:14 PM
2

Is that a "yes"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 06:55 PM
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So you agree that TRP openly advocates undermining the confidence of a woman you want to sleep with?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 06:50 PM
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I didn't say anything about relationships vs hookups. Just pointing out how is quick and easy it is to find TRP openly advocating the benefits of lowering a potential partner's confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 06:40 PM
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It is a straw man. I am unaware of this red pill belief that you so confidently assert is openly advocated. Well let's see, here's a post with 39 upvotes from 3 hours ago about undermining a woman's confidence by talking about how much hotter she was when she was younger: I've had 25 year olds get instantly depressed because that picture is the one they took at 16 when they passed their license test. They'll deny it and say it's embarrassing (and they're SO much better now that they're older) bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 06:19 PM
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Abusive relationships come from insecurity on the part of the abuser, and a need for control. Plenty of TRPers seem to be insecure control freaks, so yes, plenty of guys who think they are "TRP" are probably abusive as fuck. A good example of this is dread game, which is quite nuanced to implement in a non-abusive way -- that is, demonstrating your own value and options without straight up thinking "how can i make my partner think i could leave them?" So yeah, in theory, a "TRP relationship" wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 05:28 PM
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i just love that when someone tries to discuss something you "skimmed," your reaction is "whoa whoa i didn't actually read it nor shall i read it now" instead of, ya know, reading it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 04:37 PM
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I find it as pathetic as if a guy posted on social media about a famous chick he just banged. It's a ridiculous cry for attention and validation. TBP seems to disagree with TRP as a whole. That Alpha males are not attractive, that status isn't that important. TBP is a satire sub where we make fun of you, that doesn't mean that we think traditionally "alpha" males are unattractive to women or that status isn't a primary driver in a man's sex appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 02:54 PM
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Sorry I don't buy this guys story. I might be missing the part you're referring to. Didn't read the article, so not going to turn the treadmill in reverse for that. good save bro
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 02:44 PM
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of course thats a strawman you just made up, since absolutely no one said that no, that's my honest interpretation of what you're saying here. you suggested nexting anyone who has an N-count of 7, and I suggested that's a poor indicator of low partner quality. then you said "doesn't matter, they are abundant, like busses, there's always more" which sounds to me like you're saying that there are so many options, any flaw is a reason to disqualify a partner and move on. if that's inaccurate, then …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 09:13 PM
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no individual potential partner matters enough to put as much thought into the calculus as you are i thought the whole point of TRP was to optimize sexual strategy! if the abundance strategy is just "next anyone who isn't perfect" then it's a shitty strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 08:21 PM
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N count is a useful proxy for a host of other character traits. It doesnt have to be 100% predictive. The argument you're making here (correct me if I'm wrong) is that the number of good partners you eliminate by drawing the line at a certain N-count is significantly less than the number of bad partners you eliminate, therefore selecting partners by N-count gives you a better pool of potential partners than not filtering. Right? It doesnt have to be 100% predictive. Right, but it has to be PREDI…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 07:09 PM
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The sluts I've met are the unhappiest people I've ever known. Oh not this shit again. Pem, tell us what a "slut" is. Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 06:53 PM
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Sigh. I was really hoping for an answer, and here's why: If by "sluthood" you mean "woman tries to fill the hole in her self-esteem by sleeping around, and has had 30 sex partners in 4 years" then I totally agree with your post. That lifestyle is probably not good for her in the long run for a variety of reasons. If by "sluthood" you mean "a 30 year old woman who slept with 10 people in her life, 7 of them in college" then I totally disagree, because (1) 2 people a year is hardly "slutty" and (2…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 04:42 PM
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I already said I wasn't going to call you names. I'm actually very curious. Depending on what you say, we may actually be in near-agreement on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 08:27 PM
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Oh, I'm well aware. It's a hyperbolic straw man that you created rather than put forth an actual debatable position. Still missing: your definition of a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 08:22 PM
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What is the value of hyperbole here? How can we have a debate if your stance is hyperbole and not a thesis?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 08:18 PM
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we don't have to agree. i want to know your definition, since it's a key term in the thesis statement for this entire post. promise i won't call you names, I'm genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 08:01 PM
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i'm speechless. that is some next level shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 07:56 PM
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Care to at least define "slut" for me? The world is full of shitty and horrible people, I agree -- I just don't find promiscuity to be a strong indicator for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 07:54 PM
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Why do those social repercussions for sluttery exist? I would tell you that they exist because of [beta] men who want to limit women's choices to further their own sexual agenda, and [frigid] women who want to increase the value of the sex they give up. Neither of these groups of people have a vested interest in the success of anyone's marriage, so I see no reason to trust what they shame as a source of "what matters."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 07:53 PM
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No, I don't understand that. it's something you made up, based on life experiences you consider to be a universal truth. They are of course, far from universal, but I agree the mythical-slut beast you hate so much sounds terrible. Also, still missing: your definition of "slut."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 07:41 PM
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when EVERYONE knows that it DOES matter, otherwise women wouldn't: --lie about it --conceal it (in some cases for decades) --shame others who call women out on their fraud and concealment --defend, excuse, explain and rationalize the fraud and concealment What if it doesn't actually matter (i.e. your marriage to a slut is no more likely to fail than any other marriage), but the social order believes it to be something that matters? Wouldn't women have the equal incentive to cover their tracks in…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 07:28 PM
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Notably missing from this thread: your definition of "slut." "I am ENTITLED, whenever I am damn good and ready, to marriage to a rich, hot, white, college educated man, and for him to father my children and support me forever and ever! And HOW DARE YOU judge me for my past!! That doesn't mean anything! I can do anything I want, whenever and with whomever I want, any time I want, and I still have a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to a perfect husband whenever I damn well please!!" You know that making up qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 07:08 PM
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I have had to take it to that level before, and it felt wrong somehow even though she was punching, scratching, biting etc jesus christ stop dating crazy people
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 01:22 AM
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Anyone who's dated a women knows some are very prone to violence. I have been assaulted a few times and my property destroyed, either your taste in humans is horrible or mine is exquisite either way i find your premise so hilariously inapplicable to my life i have never thought about what i would do uh, i guess i retaliate as much as necessary to secure my safety and the safety of my property (?) and no more
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 01:15 AM
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People hate nice guys. Great. TRP is created to combat the nice guy effect. Yet TRP is hated too. So you just can't win, can ya? False dichotomy. "People hate crying babies. Duct taping baby mouths shut is created to combat the crying baby effect. But people hate you when you duct tape baby mouths shut! So you just can't win, can ya?" Something that combats a bad thing (tm) can also be a bad thing(tm).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 09:42 PM
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Plenty of low-value guys, maybe. People with their shit together generally don't have the patience to coddle woe-is-me types for very long.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 09:43 PM
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rofl TRP insecurity at its finest "what if my wife had sex with someone else before she met me and she liked it omggggg"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 09:36 PM
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Says the guy who has obviously never dated a hot chick long enough to get sick of her shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 05:46 PM
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Haha. Thanks. It took me a long time of lurking TRP to put my finger on why, even though I agreed with many of their fundamentals, I never agreed with their conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 02:22 PM
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I said the fact that they are getting married less and divorced more means they do indeed perceive themselves as having fewer options. But that doesn't make any sense. If women are divorcing more (citiation needed), that probably indicates that they have MORE options, not less. If you thought you had no options, you'd be more inclined to stay in a marriage, right? If hypergamy were true then women would refuse to marry men that earned less than them and would choose to be single instead. But thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:23 PM
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You're using the phrase "social status" in two different ways here in an attempt to catch "feminists" in a contradiction. they strongly promote the idea that men and women should enjoy equal social status No, they promote the idea that men and women should have equal OPPORTUNITY to attain social status. Feminism does not argue that all women and all men should have the same status, only that one should not be denied opportunity for status based on their gender But my experience is that socio-eco…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:18 PM
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But a female lawyer wouldn't even consider dating a male janitor. He wouldn't even have a shot. I disagree. I definitely know some well educated, middle-to-upper class women who'd have no qualms banging a hot, dumb janitor for fun. But they wouldn't date him, and they wouldn't bring him to hang out with their friends of a similar social class. Exactly the same way men would, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:13 PM
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I think BP very frequently confuses the fuck out of this down the exact same line you just did. I think the average RP acolyte does this, too. FWIW. But I agree with your point, and I think we're actually using different words to describe the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 03:39 PM
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Change the word "dominant" to "confident" and we are in complete agreement. I think there are a large number of women in the world who are put off by dominant behavior, especially men who try to dominate THEM. I think there are virtually no women in the world who are put off by confident behavior. I think it's easier to teach dominance than confidence, which is why TRP subscribes to dominance as an important characteristic in sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 03:14 PM
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I honestly can't tell if you're agreeing with me or disagreeing. Consequently, it advises that sexually attractive behaviour should be taking place at all times. I agree. being a repulsive man who does nothing to entice her sexually can not be turned around for just 1 hour a day in order for everyone to have a sex life. I agree. From josermarque's post: If you want to be confidant, assertive, and sexual in the bedroom you have to become that person top-to-bottom in the rest of your life first. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 02:53 PM
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You can't look at someone acting in a sexually repulsive way 23 hours a day and then turn on a dime when they step in to the bedroom. This assumes that being a "feminist man" is sexually repulsive to women, which is only true if you think "feminist man" is a PC way of saying "pathetic little beta bitch." And of course it's not. You can be totally equitable, kind, and loving to your partner without being a pathetic little beta bitch, and I guarantee the fact that you TREAT HER EQUITABLY will not …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 02:33 PM
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The challenge for feminists, who are usually middle-class, would be for them to marry, or even date, someone of significantly lower social class. They never do. Here, let me help you: The challenge for feminists humans, who are usually middle-class, would be for them to marry, or even date, someone of significantly lower social class. They never almost never do. I want to know what planet you live on, where apparently middle class men date and marry trailer trash on a regular basis. In my person…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 02:24 PM
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This type of comment is why I love PPD. Generic TRP wordvomit that has no obvious connection to what I said, with the conclusion of THEREFORE, HYPERGAMY!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 02:22 PM
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women will hardly ever pick a partner of lower socio-economic status, unless she has literally run out of options. This is the exact type of thing he's talking about changing very fast. Currently 29% of women outearn their husbands: http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/how-many-women-earn-more-than-their-husbands/ There's almost no way that number isn't higher now than it's even been in human history. I bet it was under 10% a generation ago. You really think 29% of women have "run out of options"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 10:22 PM
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i can't believe i almost wrote a real response to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 09:44 PM
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this cannot be a real thing that a real person who has access to the internet thinks excellent trolling tho
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 09:29 PM
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Do women have a hard time getting laid a ton of women have trouble getting laid, dude. just not as much trouble as men do. but honestly i'm not interested in this discussion, i was just commenting on people who wear their personal experiences on their sleeve around here, and how obviously they need a healthier outlet for what's upsetting them than to wallow in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 10:19 PM
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no it's not. it's the bullshit you want to be true instead of dealing with your breakup in a healthy or constructive way. risked getting my face caved in by a 6'6"" chad what the fuck neanderthal planet do you live on and what kind of shitty ass "10/10" women do you date?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 10:09 PM
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every time someone trots out their personal experience in response to a theoretical question here it's just like, jesus dude get some therapy or a drinking buddy or something, damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 09:17 PM
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Sometimes you just have trust what you're seeing with your eyes rather than trust the results of some 'study' that draws conclusions with a predetermined outcome in mind from the outset. bro do u even confirmation bias
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 02:36 PM
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Protip, when you have to announce that you're owning someone on the internet you're probably not This is a more common trait amongst ethnic minorities, which I'm now guessing that you are. lol wut congrats on the weirdest pivot i've seen today anyway i don't even remotely agree with your claim that high-value millionaires are prone to marrying waitresses. i think men that have those sort of options tend to be as selective in their LTRs as women who have those kind of options are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 09:50 PM
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comes to debate forum denigrates poster for using that forum's vernacular ooh, you got me bro! anyway, sorry you and your peers (or how ever else you determine how "a man who is a millionaire & has everything going for him" would behave) are so pathetic that marrying a passably attractive waitress is an opportunity you'd jump at notice how i keep bringing up the thing you said that was wrong AND insulting you? try to multitask here, i don't give a shit about insults but if you're not gonna at le…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 09:29 PM
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lmao you think guys want to marry hot waitresses, tell me more about your fantasy world just because you can't get shit doesn't mean guys with actual SMV are gonna wife up a a "passably attractive" waitress
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 09:14 PM
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If you're paranoid, people can tell. Detectable paranoia lowers your SMV massively. Ergo: paranoia, even if warranted, is VERY BAD.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 08:57 PM
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On the other hand, a man who is a millionaire & has everything going for him would marry a waitress working for the minimum wage if he found her to be passably attractive & they got along. this is the mostly hilarious bullshit i have ever read TRP is a thriving community dedicated to upping your SMV so you can bag more, higher-quality tail with that SMV and now you say this guy with the TRP holy grail of super high SMV is gonna marry some "passably attractive waitress" because he gets along ok w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 08:43 PM
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Right, but a nice woman who bags groceries will date & marry successful men without fail. Dafuq planet do you live on?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 08:34 PM
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So the only way for Blues to avoid the cognitive dissonance is to call men liars and frauds. Uh, yeah, I'm avoiding cognitive dissonance by calling THIS PARTICULAR MAN a liar and a fraud. Did you know you can evaluate people as individuals without painting their entire gender? NAMALT. If a man says a woman did a bad thing to him, it cannot be true, because women are good If a man says a woman did a bad thing to him, and then tells a story full of holes that AT BEST omits crucial details, and at …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 08:23 PM
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i literally have no clue what your point is here, but on the plus side, i don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 03:38 AM
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except for the part where you made up things that aren't true, you fuckin killed it. chapeau.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 03:34 AM
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seriously this dude thinks he's accomplishing something other than circlejerking
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 10:36 PM
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lol what a cute setup so you can argue that sex with someone unable to consent isn't really that bad if you're married to them damn TRP got me this time, i can't wait to find out how this is relevant to anything please tell me, you clever logician you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 10:34 PM
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Men are driven by logic more than emotions. You literally just said to me in a different reply: At this point statistics doesn't matter. ONE negative outcome is more than enough for a particular person If that doesn't say "driven by emotions over logic" then nothing does
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 10:30 PM
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At this point statistics doesn't matter That doesn't seem very STEM bro ONE negative outcome is more than enough for a particular person so you had a bad experience and now you spend your life on ppd wallowing in it, good plan, man. how about learning from your mistakes and getting back on the horse instead of writing off all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 10:26 PM
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you're seriously trying to measure the frequency of deadbedrooms globally by reading r/deadbedrooms bro do you even selectionbias
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 09:45 PM
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I could also compare a BP feminist to fundamentalist muslim because it's easy and you can compare any two things. Lol. go ahead and do it then
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 09:43 PM
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Well, if you want to understand men, then you should stop arguing, start asking questions and be open to the answers. lol why would you ask men to explain men that's like asking women to explain women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 09:40 PM
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lol, right? this fuckin guy. i had some crazy fuckin sex with this girl i used to date. hooooo boy. doesn't mean i don't have good fuckin sex with my wife or like her any less because of it... i mean shit, there's a lot more to life than sex and i wouldn't have married that chick for anything. my wife isn't my second choice just because some girl and i broke a few headboards back in the day. why can't a woman have the same experience I did?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 09:39 PM
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my thoughts exactly n count and virginity hysteria is beta so fucking on point
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 06:06 PM
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hahaha you raging pussies and your desperate clutching to your gendered spaces if you didn't suck so much you wouldn't give a crap about girls being allowed in your treehouse
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 11:58 PM
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I am 22 and male, and significantly uglier than I was 2 years ago. um holy fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 11:55 PM
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i also fantasize about muslims punishing the slooooots of America. oh yessss
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 12:48 PM
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It needs to be a FIRM no backed by physical resistance. No ambiguity. how fucking terrible are you at reading human beings when you need PHYSICAL RESISTANCE to figure out a woman doesn't want your penis inside her jesus christ
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 01:52 AM
1

I love that you can't think of anything between 1) and 2) here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 01:50 AM
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holy shit you are bad at reading the problem lies not in the concept of LMR nor how TRP recommends you address it the problem lies in total fucking idiot shitheads getting rapey because they can't tell the difference between LMR and rape because they think women are a video game with cheat codes instead of people that's why i am laughing about how fucking sketchy they are, that they think the problem is "women should shout NO and physically push me away" and not "I run a sexual strategy that rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 01:15 AM
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It doesn't matter how it is "recommended" that they deal with it, because TRPer's can't implement the "recommended" solution frequently enough to avoid problems. Have I overcome LMR in my life? Fuck yeah I have. Would I trust a bunch of autistic TRPers who learned how women "work" from an internet cult to be able to tell the difference between "LMR" and "no seriously she doesn't want to fuck you?" NO. And that's the problem here. The reason you shouldn't be fucking teaching people to "push throu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 12:01 AM
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I'd tell my future partners my n-count up front to see if they were massive toolbags and save time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 08:31 PM
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She was type 1 Bipolar AWALT amirite bro
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 08:21 PM
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i think the theory is that TRP men would raise their value so high that a woman of value would put up with their ridiculous bullshit to get some of it but i don't think it works that way most of the time, which is why they're all on the internet talking about how it should work
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 07:02 PM
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the point is that by choosing voluntary celibacy instead of FWB, she raises her value to a TRP man. why a woman ever gives a shit about what a TRP man thinks, though, is another story.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 06:54 PM
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This one time I was hooking up with this girl and then I wanted to have sex but she didn't and I was like... "ok" Then we went on a few more dates and then we had sex. she basically commitment raped me it was horrible :(((
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 06:30 PM
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Dude it's not hard. 1) Does this person obviously want to have sex with me (enthusastic yes): Have Sex 2) Does this person obviously not want to have sex with me (said no or clearly rebuffed my advances): stop trying to have sex 3) If it unclear if this person wants to have sex with me: continue gathering information Being in state #3 DOES NOT MEAN "initiate sex and rely on the woman to tell me if i'm rapist" if you are a decent human being. That's like saying "well I can't see if it's clear to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 06:22 PM
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Maybe women shouldn't be so slutty then. I can't believe it took this long to finish out my terper bingo card! You guys are slipping.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 06:09 PM
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leaning back is for betas. you're gonna let the couch SUPPORT you? that's one degree away from expecting a WOMAN to support you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 12:11 AM
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The desperation with which TRP tries to tear two people down based off a single photograph is quite telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 12:09 AM
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where am i attacking you? i'm attacking the false dichotomy in your post, where you said "doing X = creepy, not doing X = creepy, therefore all things are creepy" which is of course untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 12:31 PM
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Exactly. People say this because they don't want to be your goddamn therapist. Pretending that they don't know what's wrong with you is WAY easier than starting off the awkward half-hour conversation about whatever the fuck is actually wrong with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 01:52 AM
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And you think subscribing to a sub that teaches you to hate women is gonna help that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 11:47 PM
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I post on BP once in a while, and I think TRP is hilarious pile of misguided hateful shit. Therefore I am "blue pill" by your definition. I slept with roughly one new woman per month last time I was single, and I did it all while respecting them as unique human beings! All I had to do was take a little initiative, be cool and confident, and read social situations a bit. Did I succeed 100% of the time? Of course not. So do you want my advice now? Because I'm pretty sure it works. Field tested and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 08:51 PM
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Awwww I knew if I read far enough in here I'd find you tearing up a strawman, because obviously this is just an exercise in you trying to find some BP "advice" that you can slay with your TRP STEM LOGIC. One thing I've learned is that befriending women while having romantic feelings for them makes you a misogynistic creep. Uh, no. You'd be a misogynistic creep if you had some kind of undercurrent of hatred for women that affected your day-to-day actions, but TRP is a sub about self-improvement s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 08:42 PM
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I know that that is an extreme but honestly there are very few issues a man has that can't be treated with sex. ...and then you turn 25
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 08:25 PM
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I think we can all agree that getting the collective women of America to start pity-fucking psychopaths is the only reasonable solution to this problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 08:23 PM
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The vast majority of guys are reasonable guys, just not in that particularly dark corner of the internet. That's why I try to stay out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 01:04 PM
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Previously I thought men and women were friends. I thought you guys liked us. Now I look at every guy and wonder if he thinks the same stuff I read on TRP. I'm not perfect but I want other people, especially men, to accept me as another human being. I wouldn't care if I didn't give a shit about what you guys thought. And this, right here, is why I hate TRP as a man. You guys are a bunch of neanderthal assholes who ruin it for those of us who see women as more than just an object to try to trick …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 09:14 PM
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It seems like this is becoming very common very common very You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 09:06 PM
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In my experience, 100% of people that feel the need to tell you that they're a nice guy actually have pretty major social issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 09:08 PM
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Yeah I mean possibly this well-known thing that any idiot with google and five minutes could figure out is true.... OR MAYBE IT'S A CONSPIRACY! We'll never know.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 08:04 PM
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Your motivation here is so transparent because you call the Stampede "a family event" when the article you linked says: As this dude who makes videos in Calgary says, turnt-up threesomes are "what we hear happen at Stampede. It's just ten days of debauchery." So go grind your moral crusader axe somewhere else. I couldn't give a shit if some chick wants to have a threeway in an alley.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 09:55 PM
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I really would not describe this as a hobby, it's a straight-up clinical obsession and therapists have suggested I'm on the OCD spectrum, the last obsession to this degree was health and nutrition, which led me to become orthorexic. If it carries on I';m going to the doctor about it because I can't hold down a job the amount I post right now, I'm going in circles with the theories too. I'm glad we agree that you need to stop obsessing about this shit, and I'm glad you're seeing a doctor about it…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 02:01 PM
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I have no fucking idea what your comment has to do with mine, so let's just continue this delicious chain of non-sequiturs a bit further: The reason normal humans can't empathize with RP is that, when confronted with a world of vapid whores (college), most of us decided "i'm gonna find some cool chicks instead of these vapid whores" whereas RP decided "i'm going to obsess about getting laid by these vapid whores i don't even like." My days of chasing shitty women and hating myself for it are lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 12:15 PM
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as always people don't realise that the withdrawal of sex is about of baseline respect and attraction. i fucking love when 22 year old guys who are in "monk mode" tell me about how "the withdrawal of sex works" yeah bro you've got it all figured out
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 10:24 PM
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We call it the anger phase for a reason. It doesn't look like a "phase" to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 01:24 PM
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And TRP by its nature is filled with the sort of men who needed the help the most - a lot of them were being nice guys for a long time, getting told that was women wanted, and all they got for their years of effort was contempt, ridicule and rejection from those they loved. When you learn the truth, of course you're angry. It is very cruel how women string nice guys along. Here's another problem I have with TRP. This whole trope of "I was nice but I didn't get pussy but I was nice and the world …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 11:39 AM
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ahaha you guys just can't get over all those teenagers fucking can you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 11:33 AM
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the sub itself is about empowerment, equality, and not abusing people. The sub is about making fun of TRP, because when a sane and grounded person gazes into the abyss that is TRP, their first reaction is to grab some other people and say "this is totally fucked up, right? it's not just me?"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 11:31 AM
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it seemed like the kind of place where a reasonable kid with a good head on his shoulders could learn a lot, and the sort of place where a confused kid with some latent misogyny could really learn all of the wrong things. Exactly. Red Pill is interesting to me because of the many things it GETS RIGHT about sexual strategy and the differences between men and women. But if you don't already have a strong frame about how the the world works, it's really easy to start eating all the hateful reductio…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 08:48 PM
3

thank you. i'll give you a pass on the definition of "cuckolded."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 03:46 AM
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I read an article that the Charleston shooter was pushed over the edge when he was cuckolded by a black guy. URL or GTFO
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 03:25 AM
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oh please get over yourself. "ZOMG He Disagrees!!" - doesn't add anything to the conversation. I'm telling you why I'm not adding to the conversation. Because when you're gonna throw stuff out like "women always have enormous/primary social power, " your head's too far up your own ass to have any kind of debate at all. People who have rational viewpoints and can be debated with don't go littering their speech with hyperbolic adjectives like "enormous" or "primary" -- they present a nuanced viewp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 07:30 PM
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hogwash! Women have always had enormous (I might even say primary) social power. You're pitching feminist revisionist history here. That you believe this is how I know you're not worth debating with. Tell me more about how people who couldn't even vote in this country until 100 years ago wielded "primary social power"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 04:55 PM
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Today I learned that my average life is not your average life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 04:12 PM
0

you already told me everything i needed to know to conclude that they're shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 07:49 PM
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the woman holds a massive power advantage, as any man ever on the receiving end of "No sex until..." must attest. That's only a "massive power advantage" if you think the value a woman's vagina has exceeds everything a man brings to a relationship. She can say "no more sex" and you can say "no more (sex, money, companionship, emotional support, whatever)." The fact that you assume you have nothing to offer a woman that is equal to the sex she offers you is quite telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 07:45 PM
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that's because you only know shitty women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 07:36 PM
2

I think a lot of this is you've got a rule firing in your head that says This person said slut. Therefore, he must be trying to shame sluts No, I'm a pretty big fan of sluts, and I'll talk about "sluts" in the technical sense all day long if it's appropriate to the discussion. It's the vitriol dripping from anger phasers when they talk about women who sleep around that lets me know they are hardly speaking "with no motivation, intention or desire to change someones behaviour." That you think thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 05:01 PM
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So your theory is that bitter anger phasers railing against sluts within the safe confines of TRP never carry that expression outside TRP? Not sure I agree, but I see what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 04:33 PM
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Who said anything about RP knowledge? You told me only women slut shame, I pointed out that TRP is full of anger phasers who are slut shaming. I didn't say their beliefs were correct or representative of RP knowledge... only that they exist. Do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 04:01 PM
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If you want to discuss "slut shaming" you are talking about females. Or, you know, every other fucking post in TRP. Oh wait those are "amoral" and "just expressing a preference." They totally aren't dripping with a mix of hate, disgust and jealousy from a new anger phaser every day... not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 01:52 PM
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Makeup is a con, a waste of chemicals and a waste of money. But it still goes strong because it works. If it works it's not a waste, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 01:47 PM
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haha you think i'm here to debate with you and not just laugh at your sad paranoia
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 01:45 PM
2

There's only 3 explanations for why OP could get burned by TWO women (that's more than one, which is more than zero!!) 1) random noise 2) shitty partner selection 3) ALL WOMEN ARE BITCHEZZZZ!!! Since we can clearly rule out #1 and #2 I am left to live a life driven by AWALT. Also this one time a hot girl didn't want to sleep with me. AWALT. PhD plz
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 11:11 PM
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Assuming the worst until proven otherwise. What a miserable way to go through life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 10:57 PM
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i've been raped and i went through a period of time where i didn't trust men. any man, ever. This is actually a really good analogy for some of TRP. They're men who've been emotionally raped by women, generalizing the experience to "all women."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 10:54 PM
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Which, in any lifetime, is going to be the majority of incidents. Citation needed. My life is full of pretty much awesome people of both genders. Sorry yours isn't!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 10:50 PM
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no dude, he's got TWO data points. that's, like, one more data point then you need to get a PHD in allwomenarebitchesology, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 10:48 PM
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If women cheat or commit adultery, there is almost no consequence for it either. In fact, this is seen as a form of female empowerment. This is one of those things where you type a sentence on your keyboard because you want it to be true, not because it is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 08:44 PM
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Seriously I want to know what world these guys live in. I know far more people of both genders who are empathetic to a fault than I know people who would "drive a bus over you if it suits their interest." Sometimes I come here just to marvel at the different ways people can experience the same reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 08:41 PM
12

call it what you wanna call it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 05:56 PM
13

ahhh the trophy wife bracket
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 05:42 PM
14

I deal mostly with married couples dafuq is your work where 10+ year age differences is the norm?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 04:50 PM
2

Its no secret that homogeneous populations are the most successful in the long-term, but people like to pretend they aren't for feelings sake [citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 03:46 PM
1

So if a woman isn't a plate (aka fuckbuddy/FWB) that means she's avoiding me? In the TRP sense, absolutely. OP's postulate was that TRP techniques create a selection bias because they only work on subset of women. Women who aren't receptive to these techniques would then [sexually] avoid a user of them. Your response was "no woman has avoided me for a year!" which cannot be true unless you've plated 100% of your targets for that year, right? Hence my question. Otherwise, you've attempted TRP tec…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 03:19 PM
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it's a direct quote from OP before he edited his post
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 07:41 PM
1

Have been actively applying TRP theory to my own life for over a year. Have not yet had a woman avoid me. What do I do? I must have failed as a red piller! So you've plated every woman you've targeted for a year?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 03:57 PM
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You're so filled with what can only be bitterness and hatred I think it's quite telling that your gut reaction to this is to make assumptions about OP's emotional state instead of providing any kind of analysis or refutation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 03:53 PM
2

isn't this thread proof that they know TBP exists and is laughing at them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 08:33 PM
2

A+++ would read your strawman again
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 08:32 PM
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So you don't really know what a "privilege" is, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 08:23 PM
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Your average, healthy guy isn't going to care if you have slept with a few people before him. Some guys would even prefer it if you had. And some guys would prefer if you had a LOT of previous experience if it meant you were a rock star in bed. It all comes down to personal preference, and each person is unique. Nailed it. People who care too much about who you used to fuck aren't worth your time. It's actually a great filter to keep from dating shitty people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 09:05 PM
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/r/thebluepill is the Daily Show to /r/theredpill's Fox News: media I consume just to remind myself the entire world isn't full of assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 07:32 PM
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I'm here to laugh at idiots, not save them. To put it in language you guys understand -- the more terper assholes in the world, the more pussy I get just by using basic masculinity with a side of not-being-an-asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 07:30 PM
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Just keep plugging away. We can get through this. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/piss-poor
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:36 PM
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I'm sorry, but you're a piss poor philosophy student. No, that's actually the best part. I'm a cis white son of a man who makes seven annual figures and funds all my shit. I couldn't be poor if I tried WHOOOOOOSH
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:13 PM
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Fair enough, I was not weighing the moral implication of the word in my analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 04:02 PM
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Premise 1: The essential feature of altruism is motivation based on the benefit someone else. I reject this premise. All actions people take are ultimately governed by chemical interactions in our brains. To say that an action is not altruistic because it gives you good brain chemisty (i.e. good feelings) is to say that no intentional, motivated action can be altruistic. If this were true, the definition of altruism becomes so narrow (accidentally or random doing good things for other people) th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 03:23 PM
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treating them differently to previous alpha hook ups involve choosing to treat people badly. i would say they treat them "differently," not "badly," and I don't have a problem with it. treating your partner "badly" is unethical -- and decent people of both genders regularly choose not to do it, even in cases where it's beneficial to them. the problem is that if you read TRP long enough you start to assume there's no decent people in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 11:39 PM
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holy fuck read the entire sentence i wrote instead of just the second half http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/31q216/rpers_fail_to_take_into_account_a_crucial/cq4gefj altruism: actions for the good of others where the only tangible benefit you receive are "good feelings" the only way this definition covers pedophiles is if fucking little kids is an "action for the good of others"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 09:41 PM
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So your argument here is that "fucking little kids" is "doing good things for someone"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 09:32 PM
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oh ho ho, you sure got me, you sharp pedant you! edited.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 07:51 PM
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She has to constantly decide when switching lanes from alpha fucks into beta bucks Because of the phrasing I assumed he was talking about switching from fucking alphas to looking for a beta provider, not cheating on a beta provider with an alpha. The latter is obviously against pretty much all standards of ethics, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 07:36 PM
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even if people are doing good things for someone at an expense of their own, they are pursuing the psychological reward of either pleasurable feelings, or a reduction in negative feelings like guilt/pity. If the only reward you obtain for doing good things for someone can be summarized as "good feelings" then that action IS real altruism for all intents and purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 07:33 PM
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She has to constantly decide when switching lanes from alpha fucks into beta bucks to not be affected by her conscience or to have any integrity. This is ascribing a moral view to the AF/BB dichotomy that doesn't necessarily exist for everyone. People have different criteria between a one night stand and a long term relationship, I mean, just look at TRP -- they want to fuck hot sluts, but also many of them want to have LTR's with chaste Disney princesses -- basically the male version of AF/BB, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 03:47 PM
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that's because women are so fucking abstract to you, they might as well be sex robots. so all you want to do is marry a hot one... because it's not like you'd ever want to relate to your life partner anyway, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/15 09:01 PM
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I'd love to be thoughtful, cooperative, and empathetic. But if I do, I'll probably die alone or with the lowest value women who needs someone to settle with. A problem with TRP is that they'll tell you have to stop being those things to be confident and masculine. And they're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/15 08:55 PM
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by that logic, children are taught not to kill because feminists believe all men are murderers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 09:08 PM
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Clearly I don't understand. The dictionary definition of hypergamy is marrying up, no? So what do women not cooperating with other women in an academic environment have to do with marrying up? Is there a second redpill definition I'm not aware of? I thought it was all about women trading up when possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 09:06 PM
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um, no? visitation rights have nothing to do with last names and everything to do with marriage certificates.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 08:30 PM
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Saying even the littlest unflattering thing about a woman will instantly make you a "pathetic loser sociopath virgin possible rapist" not on my planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 08:28 PM
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What the fuck does hypergamy have to do with cooperating with people of the same sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 08:27 PM
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you know i love when you neg me
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 06:29 PM
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oooh yeah kill dat strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 05:57 PM
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where did i say that? i said to enjoy your faps! all those desperate women, approaching 30, without leverage, without a man on the planet who will marry them! they're gonna come begging for your cock any day now!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 04:18 PM
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haha, well shit. interesting. enjoy your faps about a future where women so desperate to marry that they'll actually have sex with you!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 03:35 PM
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exactly, the elements of TRP that distinguish it from the seduction community are focused around dehumanization of women. if you wash them away as "bastardized TRP", what remains is basically just seduction or self-improvement -- "be a better person for yourself and women will also like you more."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 01:19 PM
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I like how you assume the drop in marriage rates is because "men are not willing to marry," and not the devaluation of marriage in our culture as a whole. I predict that society will not change that much, because men's declining interest in marriage will be matched by women's declining interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 01:12 PM
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whoa, i'm really glad i looked at your post history to see that you're a pathlogical liar before going any further here. "i lost 80lb in a month" "i can't ride a bike because i don't have limbs" LMAO. ok, you just keep doing your internet martyr thing then. peace!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 12:25 PM
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Ha! That's a good point actually, I live a mostly sober life these days so such things can be... forgotten. But you're right, at last call, ugly women get more action than ugly men for sure. I would argue that (1) the men supplying this action are not "attractive" and (2) what is about to happen is definitely not "dating." But still, good point!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 12:08 PM
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the internet is full of lonely guys aged 15 to 60 who spend their whole lives alone despite endless attempts to find someone. Yeah, but that's not because they're ugly. Remember this thread started because you claimed ugly women date attractive guys, but ugly men don't date attractive women? That's the point I disagree with. First you said women with similar and even more severe flaws can reasonably expect to be courted by attractive men. and then when I said I disagreed, you said: Because I'm p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 11:26 PM
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I believe that, a woman, just for the fact of having a vagina and a womb, will have some base level sexual appeal He spoke in absolutes and thus we are refuting those absolutes. If OP had brought a more nuanced viewpoint I might be agreeing with him, but he did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 10:55 PM
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ugly dudes getting laid left and right, ugly chicks getting shunned? i figured that was clear from my other comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 10:53 PM
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The lowest of the low of men do get left behind I don't agree. At a certain level of vileness, people get left behind on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 10:32 PM
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small town, college, florida, boston, yuppies, internet dating, bike racing, computer programming.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 10:30 PM
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You have to remember some men have been rejected my every women they have met and don't have standards. That's not true. They've been rejected by everyone woman they've approached, which is far cry from "every woman they've met." The don't approach the women they don't want to sleep with because those women don't have default sexual value.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 10:25 PM
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I came to mine through life experience, same as you did, bro. Clearly we run in very different circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 10:21 PM
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Does there exist such a woman on the planet Earth that no man would find attractive and be willing to have sex with and\or date? I believe that the answer to this question is no Wouldn't the corollary also be true, though? "Does there exist such a man on the planet Earth that no woman would find attractive and be willing to have sex with and\or date?" I believe the answer is no. The women at the bottom of the food chain are just as desperate as the men the bottom of the food chain. In that sense…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 10:18 PM
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A woman with severe physical flaws will have little trouble finding an attractive man to fuck and date. Honestly I wonder what sort of trauma a person would have to experience to believe this sentence is true. I'm sorry for whatever has happened in your life that has brought you to this point, my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 10:05 PM
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You are wrong. Allow me to demonstrate: 1) Would you have sex with any woman on the planet? If the answer to this is "no", then women do not have default sexual appeal, or at least, not enough sexual appeal for you to want to fuck them, which is what I assume is relevant here. Feel free to try to restate my question in a way that the answer becomes "yes" without adding enough qualifiers to make it no longer apply to a "default woman."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 09:28 PM
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aren't TRPers all about spinning plates and avoiding relationships, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 09:20 PM
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In fact, women with similar and even more severe flaws can reasonably expect to be courted by attractive men. I have no idea where you guys get this shit. If you go outside once in a while, you'll see FAR more "ugly men" with beautiful women than vice versa. If you meant "I'm unattractive because of my personality" then I take it all back. But confident, cool, ugly guys get laid plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 09:18 PM
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that was a lot of words you typed to not answer the question. i find your comments quite interesting though, so thanks anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 02:49 PM
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To me the essence of creepiness is to not being able to take the hint that a woman isn't interested. If you're a hot dude, yeah, you can probably lead off with something overtly sexual and not be labeled a creep immediately, especially if you're fast enough on your feet to handle a less-than-positive reception with something smooth. If you're not a hot dude, you probably have to actually develop some rapport before you start suggesting that she come back to your place and get taught a lesson. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 11:14 PM
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As the chant you may have heard of from TRP goes "Sexual strategy as amoral". Does that mean the only reason TRP doesn't encourage rape is because it's against the law?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 12:26 PM
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As late as my smv can carry me ! Obviously there are a ton of variables so this question is completely irrelevant. It can be 30, it can be 60. Who the fuck knows. ahahahahahaha yeah bro, when you're 45 and your smv just isn't pulling bitches like it use to, you just pick a fresh 18 year old off the street and settle down. that's how it works right? i mean i'm sure there's no correlation between the type of 18 year old who would settle down with a 45 year old and girls who have massive fucking is…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 12:24 PM
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Who said anything about consistency? fair point. i'm sure that even though the vast majority of times an older guy "settles down" with a "fresh 16-18" year old it's some creepy/pathetic/emotionally abusive/golddigger shit, you will be different. Or being old? So how old do you envision yourself being when you enact this plan? I'm genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 08:26 PM
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The mistake you're making is thinking that having a personal value system that treats your sexual partners as equal is a desirable thing. That sort of thinking could lead to long-term relationships, pair bonding, maybe even a happy marriage if you weren't careful. It's much safer to have a value system that treats women exclusively as sex objects, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 06:20 PM
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whose life plan is to spin until you grow older and then settle down with some fresh 16 to 18-year-olds Because if there's anything that consistently leads to a good relationship, it's when old dudes settle down with "fresh 18-year olds."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 06:13 PM
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