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This is a shit test I have some experience with. Girls will often say things like "I'm no good", "I suck", "I'm crazy" etc. The idea is that if you go BP and comfort them and appease them, you have compromised yourself and have failed. A lot of these girls know some of the manipulative things they do are fucked up or just have low self esteem, and by the transitive property if you are willing to appease them, you are also low value. I either pass them in the same way you just did or I outright c…
/r/TheRedPill05/12/15 05:43 PM
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Teeexas. Big city Texas. I wouldn't leave Texas for the world man. I'm also a 6'2 med student though. I do well enough on tinder so for the past year I have had a legit abundance mentality. If you wanna have a conversation feel free to pm me at any time man. I also wrote about my experience with women extensively in my past comments and was a very active member of Asianmasculinity for a period of time.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/15 07:06 PM
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I would say I do well also. Just that people do give me dirty looks. I mean I've been with my share of white girls, also gotten some dirty looks along the way.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/15 02:12 AM
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Actually I discuss RP theory and all my plates with the old man. Really great guy and prioritized his son over whatever societal norms or women's feelings that may be out there. Im East Asian btw One thing I will say is the American south is still uncomfortable with interracial couples. I get more dirty looks with a 6/10 white girl than a 9/10 Asian girl. If anything, being out with a hot Asian girl people are just like "good for you".
/r/TheRedPill24/11/15 03:02 PM
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Yea. But I honestly feel bad. I probly won't do this again. Strictly hookups or actual serious LTRs from now on. This time I could tell myself "I'll give the relationship a try and see if it turns serious", but next time I'll know it's bs.
/r/TheRedPill05/11/15 02:59 AM
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Good question. Idunno. Just didn't want to push it I guess. I am sure I could have explained it away but didn't want to take a risk and deal with it? One thing is I don't try to artificially hold frame a lot of the time. Just feels fake and, I mean if I am not invested in the relationship in the first place who cares if she leaves after a while? Haha I also get attacks of conscience if a string a girl along (spin the plate) for too long, so nothing wrong with letting it die a natural death imo.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/15 05:54 PM
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I loved this FR because I also use tinder heavily and use essentially the same build up as OP. As far as your discussion right now though. I tried to fuck her on the first date for my first several months of tinder dates. Not because of any principled reason, but because sometimes I would only have 1 free evening in 2 weeks and it was "now or never". I lost a couple of girls that way, but I think the lesson I learned and experience I got was worth it. Nowadays I am less busy and will move things…
/r/TheRedPill04/11/15 02:17 PM
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Hahaha dude this hits close to home. My relationship with a legit 9/10 Instagram model just ended. She fit all the spoiled princess stereotypes. I basically treated her like a normal girl in our relationship and it took her about 3 months to burn out. She was BY FAR hotter than any girl I have previously been with. Pretty sure she had me pegged as a beta provider from the start (I'm a med student and the ideal image of the man her parents would want her to marry), but Even knowing this I had to …
/r/TheRedPill04/11/15 07:07 AM
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That was such a good post. Thanks.
/r/TheRedPill18/10/15 02:16 PM
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I disagree with this. Most women desire wealth to a greater or lesser extent, but women who have actually experienced poverty or not having what they want will desire wealth more and be more willing to sacrifice on other things to get it. Girls who have always gotten what they want materially will be more likely to emphasize other qualities in men. This gold digging theme is something that I've been thinking about recently. I am about to start my medical residency...
/r/TheRedPill18/10/15 01:59 PM
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Hahaha nice. Though to be fair PowerTalk was originally a corporate communication concept I think. Trp borrowed it. Not 100% sure.
/r/TheRedPill12/09/15 02:38 AM
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I'm a med student on a concierge medicine rotation. Basically I see a lot of rich people who can afford to hire a concierge doc and a bunch of successful doctors. I found that a lot of successful people in fact are alpha, which I am defining as confident/self-determined or willful and have a "command presence" about them. However another cluster of successful guys tend to be the anxious type A guys. If you're neurotic and worrying all the time and it happens to be about success or money, you'll …
/r/TheRedPill12/09/15 02:36 AM
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I don't think most docs are top 1% nowadays, but your point is well taken. Texas
/r/TheRedPill11/09/15 05:28 AM
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Dude is it just me or are there a disproportionate amount of med students here? I am a med student. Like forreal there is like a month long wait to see your internist but every other story has at least a comment from a doctor-in-training.
/r/TheRedPill11/09/15 02:35 AM
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Hey this isn't at all meant as a snarky comment. Why can't we call "holding frame" what its always been called: knowing yourself and having integrity. Haha I just read an article about how ideas are continually repackaged every so often but remain more or less the same.
/r/TheRedPill29/08/15 02:49 PM
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I see. I understand this topic better now.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/15 05:31 PM
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I really like this argument you make. I agree women inherently chafe against hierarchical spaces because they can't leverage their sexuality. To an attractive woman, her sexuality is as much a part of her as our arms and legs are to us. In a hierarchical, performance-based space this is suddenly taken away. I always try to apply these arguments to my own life, since it's easy to get over excited about a persuasive argument. I am a med student. How would you say the dynamic you outlined applies t…
/r/TheRedPill14/08/15 07:22 PM
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Well see I don't think there is anything wrong at all with wanting to be a rich and powerful and independent person. For girls I care about like my sister, I think it's just an unfortunate quirk that men don't like those traits in a woman. On balance, it's probably more beneficial to be a powerful independent person and try to overcome that on the dating and marriage market than to be purposefully weak and supplicating so you can lock down a dude. Of course I care about myself more, so when I am…
/r/TheRedPill10/08/15 10:27 PM
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I really dig this argument. Here in Texas I meet a lot of successful female physicians in the hospital. A lot of these women are southern gals who hate feminists, feminism, and social justice in general. However they really live the feminist ideal of empowerment. Really makes you think a bit.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/15 10:54 PM
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I strongly disagree with drive unless it's also as a blue pill example.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 06:49 AM
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Dude I don't even care if this is some sort of feminism Trojan horse or whatever. This is phenomenally insightful.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 05:56 AM
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I would assume a possibly homeless "hot" guy with CATCHER IN THE RYE as his only book is probably alpha to the point of sociopathy. Other than that I mostly agree with your posts.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 05:51 AM
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I've always looked at the "nice/sweet" thing as Mormon people wanting to present a better face to people not in the church. With each other they are just normal people. Is this accurate?
/r/TheRedPill02/08/15 09:47 AM
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Yea but forreal though. I learned the "ignore shaming and guilting" lesson early from the excessive amount of this my traditional Asian parents subject me too. Anytime someone says the statement "a real _____ would do ___" or "you should do ___" my reflexive answer is "fuck you". Exceptions are if they are someone I trust a lot or they are my teacher/professor/mentor. Haha I even speed up on purpose when I see those signs that tell you how fast you're going and blink if you're speeding.
/r/TheRedPill02/08/15 09:38 AM
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Thx for sharing that. I'm just starting off my medical career as a mid twenties guy and I'm starting to get some possible gold diggers, though I'm somewhat protected now because I actually have no money haha. This girl got her own plan B instead of asking me and only brought it up weeks later and incidentally. I was impressed since I knew her family didn't have much. Even rich girls I've been with in the past asked me to buy theirs out of principle, which is reasonable in my mind. I do think thi…
/r/TheRedPill02/08/15 09:26 AM
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We should stick with "mangina". Why you gotta ruin dinosaurs for me like that?
/r/TheRedPill30/07/15 10:42 PM
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Elite daily is for women. It's just not marketed as such because even women don't take women's publications seriously.
/r/TheRedPill30/07/15 04:55 PM
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Ok bro that's a little dogmatic to be telling someone who actually sees these people.
/r/TheRedPill30/07/15 03:11 PM
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Well gotta keep in mind sometimes the male doc dumps her homely med school girlfriend as his own smv starts ticking upwards as he gets options closer to the end of his training. Plus you don't always get to choose where you are for residency, so some relationships become long distance. Aside from that, medicine is a people field. Meet and interact with lots of new folks daily from a position of authority. Lots of hot drug reps and nurses/PTs/techs and such. A lot girls from your past and aquaint…
/r/TheRedPill30/07/15 07:03 AM
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The corollary to this is that female physicians still do need to marry SOMEONE, and there just aren't that many high status males to go around. Oftentimes they need to get creative. You'll see a good number of female doctors much more open to pairing with "high smv/low money" positions. I'm talking about your police/soldier/firefighter/musician/cross fit coach type guys. Think security/status/escape, which one does she lack and need?
/r/TheRedPill30/07/15 06:57 AM
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So botox is best used preventatively. When I rotated in plastics, I saw a girl who regularily got botox in her twenties without a hint of a wrinkle visible.
/r/TheRedPill28/07/15 10:50 PM
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I don't think it would hurt to at least go to the doctor and get tested. I'm a med student, and while the threshold the doctors had for replacement T was an actual objective lab test, your post sounds like you could have an actual problem. Besides its possible this is just a symptom of an unrelated health issue that should be checked out anyways.
/r/TheRedPill28/07/15 07:48 AM
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Dude this is a really good field report. Although maybe I'm just bias cuz I also had s cozy nice little neighborhood bar I took most girls too. My approach wasn't as smooth as your "questions game" thing though, but was workable. Your shits genius.
/r/TheRedPill28/07/15 05:46 AM
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Haha or you can roll your shoulders forward if you want to project "I just might attack you" Not generally recommended.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/15 06:41 AM
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Dude you're not seeing France right. The French aren't as racist against yellow people because they have a different target: Muslims. The guy you oppressed yesterday becomes your friend after he learns your language and how to play your game. After that, you can oppress the new guy together haha. In this case the guy France oppressed yesterday is Vietnam, or the yellow man. For AA guys reading this, none of this is to be taken as an excuse for why you can't get laid. You can get laid. Listen to …
/r/TheRedPill24/07/15 11:35 AM
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We had his exact argument on the asianmasculinity subreddit. We had guys who did it both ways with success. I was arguing OPs position and the other guy was arguing yours, and guys were saying it can be done either way. Conclusion was that there's a lot of ways to make it work, but AMOGing like what you do is only worth it if you enjoy being AMOG for its own sake. Following some white boy isn't the way to go ether, and even if it was I don't think it's good for your head. But I don't think OP wa…
/r/TheRedPill24/07/15 11:31 AM
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Dude this analysis of rp through the lens of theology is awesome.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/15 09:37 AM
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haha this! I'm was hooking up with a girl from tinder and she let me look through her profile. I wasn't even the highest SMW guy on her profile. I was average at best. All the other guys were just horrrrriiiible at texting. If your text doesn't advance your case and show some sort of wit/value/intelligence/perceptiveness; or a short tactical text by its timing and content. Realty it just had to do anything. If it does nothing its a "dead text". I get mad when I accidentally send a dead text. Som…
/r/TheRedPill24/07/15 04:06 AM
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Thanks for posting this. I've lived your post and found it to be empirically successful. I wholeheartedly agree with everything. That being said I don't think it tells the full story. Someday, yellow and brown communities in America won't be in the low place they are now. The irish, poles, italians, germans, jews were once looked at no better than we are right now and considered just as "ethnic". The frontier of "acceptable SMW ethnicities" is always in flux. Even the scandanavians at the foundi…
/r/TheRedPill24/07/15 03:52 AM
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Dude get out. Pussy was valued much higher in the 50's when you couldn't fuck a girl without dating and even MARRYING her first. This may be a bubble, although based on all the successful FR's around here, the cost still ain't that high. But that 50's shit was straight up a collusion and monopoly.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/15 03:43 AM
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Yea a lot of the times, medicine doesn't follow market forces exactly just cuz there are so few doctors. Urologists make a good living. They don't need to advertise or anything. A lot of people will let their personal opinions influence providing these kinds of elective procedures. Don't forgot that unless it's an an emergency, doctors have the right to refuse a procedure for anyone if they want.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 09:08 PM
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Huh? Dude they aren't forcing any obgyns to do abortions. The vast majority don't. The USA is paternalistic as fuck about abortions, the hell you talking about?
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 02:33 PM
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It's a blessing nowadays to have been raised in an intact 2 parent household or even with just 1 good parent. I usually try to kinda reserve judgement when people are weird like that.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 01:32 PM
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Yea I find this weird about Americans too. I'm in Texas and not even the conservative families will do this. It's the liberal ones that will. It's fucking weird.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 01:17 PM
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I get what you're saying. Thanks for hitting me back. It gets confusing in medicine because while very few accountants love their jobs, medicine is an easy field to love. Easier to get Stockholm syndrome that way, and I'm sure some people genuinely love it. Plenty of doctors who could retire but keep doctoring. Haha one surgeon I knew stopped cutting at 80 because he was diagnosed with cancer, died a year later. Didn't need the money by the end at all. I'm just saying, I can have a day at the ho…
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 07:51 AM
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Nahhhh dude it ain't that. I was rotating in Ob gyn clinic and they won't usually do tubal ligation for women in their twenties either. Statistically young people are the most likely to regret getting sterilized. It's a "first do no harm" kind of thing. In the USA usually personal agency is sacred, but in medicine you gotta weigh it against other stuff. You can't get a doc to help with a lot of questionable procedures that you yourself want done.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 07:22 AM
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10/10 post. Haha this some real rich dad/poor dad shit. OP how do you feel about making money in the rat race and then invested that capital? In other words, what if you stayed in law and didnt blow your money on bottle service and an Audi but rather invested it?
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 07:13 AM
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My class president in med school was a flamboyantly gay man. He did fine. You could tell he knew how to get shit done. I mean he walked like a man even though he did a very pronounced version of the gay inflection. He didn't put up with nonsense or make excuses, and he was good at working with others. Could communicate very well to get his point across without putting people on the defensive. Haha he was an expert on the "well it's wonderful that everyone shared their ideas, now let's do x y and…
/r/TheRedPill21/07/15 11:07 PM
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Sure. I agree. Just like we don't talk about how much money we make. It's a social convention. I see nothing wrong with it. But on a side note, isn't it kind of cool when you first start being able to see through social conventions and see past it into the actual code of the matrix? This one is little and harmless, but there are a lot out there that aren't. What I really hope to see is RP guys being able to start seeing the social conventions all around them and deciding for themselves if they a…
/r/TheRedPill21/07/15 03:15 PM
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Haha yea. Some of my friends who got an early start are at where you are.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/15 08:19 AM
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Yea I grok you. That was rhetorical/sarcastic
/r/TheRedPill21/07/15 08:04 AM
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Yea my state of mind nowadays is "please please please break up with me so I can go for other girls in peace." As for why i don't break up with her. She like cooks me food and is really really sweet to me, and I just ain't that cold of a dude. Guess I'm not the ideal RP man haha. The next step to this is "I don't give a shit. If she's here she's here if she's not she's not, I'm gonna focus on me." I'm personally not at that stoic last step of zen yet though.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/15 02:27 AM
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Nah forreal though we should have a sticky in all caps welcoming the influx of guys if this goes down. One of the big name bloggers who can write really well ahem rollo tomassi ahem can write it.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/15 12:09 AM
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After you learn how to you can lie a liiiittle about who you are haha.
/r/TheRedPill20/07/15 10:51 PM
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Yea the "tribe" thing is really legit. Me and a bunch of my friends are second generation immigrants to the U.S. from a bunch of different countries too, east and west. We all independently came to the conclusion "wtf is wrong with Americans and how did they forget this human male tradition of friendship??"
/r/TheRedPill20/07/15 10:46 PM
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Dude there is no way that's real. God that hurts just to read. I dunno why everyone is ragging on you for dating a single mom before you knew better though. I liked that FR personally.
/r/TheRedPill20/07/15 10:42 PM
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I think the better analogy is "we won't hire you now, but we will after you do 10 years worth of unpaid internships."
/r/TheRedPill20/07/15 07:54 PM
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Word no prob. Once you get the ball rolling it ain't hard to keep it rolling. I mean you one of the FRs right now is literally "a hot girl came onto me but I'm bored and it's just not exciting anymore." I personally slowed down after girl número 6 this year and am in a ltr right now. My only other pointer would be: don't be afraid to go for a girl a little below you standards just for practice. Get a little warm up in at half difficulty to get your mind right. A lot of us guys who started off sh…
/r/TheRedPill20/07/15 10:45 AM
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I have a couple of friends who are considered attractive (pretty boys). I am not considered that but I manage dynamics with women way better. I've noticed some pretty big differences in how we deal with girls that may answer your question. So my friend gets a lot of girls who are interested due to no effort of his own, but the girls shit test the hell out of him. The way I explain it to him is "Joey, most guys have to do something that firmly establishes that they are a confident dude before a g…
/r/TheRedPill20/07/15 08:57 AM
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I agree with these points. I also agree that hooking up with a bunch of girls is a necessary education nowadays to maintain a successful ltr. Its not really that challenging once you get the ball rolling. Can't neglect the basics though.
/r/TheRedPill20/07/15 08:50 AM
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This works for me in a roundabout way. I'll talk very frankly to girls about the sexual marketplace when they push me for ltr. I'll diplomatically tell them "yea this is great for now and I'm doing alright, but I can't help but wonder when I get out of medical training and have more time and way more money, how well will I do then?" Basically, painting yourself as a man on the up-and-up is like chick crack. Implies that the you they are attracted to now ain't shit compared to what's coming.
/r/TheRedPill20/07/15 05:34 AM
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Thanks for hitting me back. I am completely funded. 1 more year till residency. I agree with the rat maze thing. Of course the worst ones are the ones you don't see. I've already gotten past a couple so far, and when I look back at them I'm like "huh that trap was pretty vicious". I agree too, the people who didn't get out of them seem to be not-doing-so-well. Haha for a while I tried reasoning with these people, even yelling at them. Nowadays I'm trying out "just not caring about them." I find …
/r/TheRedPill20/07/15 02:36 AM
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Yea I have no idea why this idea is so slow to take hold here.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/15 04:51 AM
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Haha that's awfully glum. I'm honestly not optimistic about pay just like you said, but there were enough signs of that going in. I always tell people medicine isn't worth it unless you do it for love. Even with the ways doctors used to be paid, the demands of the job and especially the training were too tough to make it worth the money, considering that the average kid who could get into med school could probably make a living elsewhere. Not too worried about debt tbh. Edit: also read through a…
/r/TheRedPill13/07/15 12:21 PM
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Haha my favorite was a girl who 15 minutes into our date was like "do you practice pick up? I definitely see some signs." Turns out she used to participate in pua workshops run by her friend where she was the girl all the students practiced on before going out to the bar. Haha me and that girl actually had a great connection. We hooked up for a while, still think of her from time to time.
/r/TheRedPill12/07/15 11:34 PM
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I've noticed this too. I get both alpha fucks and beta fucks. I'm a med student and generally tell women, but some care and put you in a provider category and some just don't care. Think it's got something to do with what they view as a relevant timeframe, since a med student can't expect money for the next 7 years. Anyways, the sex is better with the girls who don't care( alpha fucks).
/r/TheRedPill12/07/15 10:19 PM
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Yea me and my friend both do pretty well with girls. We fundamentally disagree on this topic. I think women are just too instinctively adept at sniffing out true versus faked smv so the best way is to change yourself. Basically what this story is saying without the epigenetics mumbo jumbo. I think it's got more to do with social cues and body language. My friend thinks women are retarded and can easily be gamed. Basically he's more of an old style pua rather than a RP person. I've definitely see…
/r/TheRedPill12/07/15 10:07 PM
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Fair enough. Guess it's the male equivalent of awalt. All men are like that if put in the right situation.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/15 12:56 AM
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Hahaha. Amoral. Anorak is like coat in French or some shit. Dunno why my phone did it since I never type in French.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/15 08:49 PM
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Yea this rings very true for me. Most of my extended family is in China, and while they are the first to admit there are a ton of problems there that make life hard, their main critique of America is basically the one OP outlined. I see it when I go there. Pace of life is just much slower and people enjoy themselves more.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/15 07:31 PM
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Maybe he was just too tired at the end of the long casting call to care anymore?
/r/TheRedPill10/07/15 07:22 PM
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Haha well, I try to make time for my tinder dates for exactly the reason that I don't want to feel like I missed out. I did miss honor'ing a couple of rotations because of this though. It's a compromise.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/15 07:10 PM
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I dunno what kind of nice honest morally upright guy friends you have. Can you please introduce one of them to my sister? Most guys I know can, have, and will cheat.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/15 07:09 PM
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And briffaults law goes both ways imo.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/15 05:18 PM
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Sexual strategy is anorak, but you apply it within the framework of your own morals.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/15 05:17 PM
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It's a gauge of where RP is as a community, which I care about because i invest my time to read the stuff posted on here. Recently left another subreddit that just got a bit too militant for me.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/15 07:58 AM
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One of my biggest takeaways from RP is that most of this stuff doesn't just apply to women, haha.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/15 05:44 AM
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Haha a story from my little part of the world. Imagine you're a med student or a pre med. Not beaten down beta but not chad T either. You bust your ass and never really get to live while your friends party it up in college and then party it up post grad with their 60-70k engineering/consulting job. You get 45k all through residency after getting nothing in med school. And at no point during all of this do you have any time. Tough to spin plates in that situation right? But again you aren't an in…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/15 02:03 AM
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yea, the game definitely takes strategy and even then there is still risk. I knew a few guys who dumped their long-term girlfriends right before finishing residency. I'm in med school right now and its pretty tough to date a med student, so I don't think I would have the heart to do it. That's just real bad judgement or bad luck on the girl's part, since residency ends right about when women hit the wall.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 10:57 PM
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My response to this is always "it's just what my face looks like" with a smile and a shrug. I get told this all the time hah, I definitely have resting bitch face (or more specifically I have its close cousin angry Asian man resting face)
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 09:21 PM
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Yea I second this. Nurses are legit from what I've seen as a med student.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 09:19 PM
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Doesn't pink collar refer to sex work? I could be wrong, or maybe it only does in Chinese haha.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 09:19 PM
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I don't like your use of the word "stress". Gives people the wrong idea. How about "trials" instead? Stress increases cortisol and actively lysis your muscle and decreases androgen levels. Also raises your blood sugar and increases abdominal fat. This isn't some pseudoscientific nutrition Mumbo jumbo, it's pretty well accepted in medicine.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 06:38 PM
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My grandma worked a full time job and did all the housework, granted grandfather's full time job was way more profitable. It involved a lot of banquets and glad handing, but other than some good natured ribbing my grandmother never really complained. She really did work hard her whole life though. Respect. I don't think it would have been the worst thing in the world if gramps helped her sometimes on his own accord. It's the nagging dynamic in my opinion that really fucks up the relationship str…
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 06:38 AM
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This. RP or naturally alpha guys are pretty rare from what I've seen. Me and some of my decently high smv/alpha friends have noticed that with most girls, the guy in our group they fail to lock down is the first time in their life they have failed. Granted we were in a nerdy private university environment so this may select against alpha type guys in the first place.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 05:24 AM
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yea thats some really awful stuff.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/15 09:32 PM
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I agree with what you said. My parents came to the USA together as grad students from China. So there was definitely a "two people in a lifeboat" kind of vibe going on that limited the dynamics you outlined. In addition, divorced people are still heavily shamed in their (our?) native culture. But for my own situation you definitely right.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/15 08:23 PM
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Whatever buddy. I usually don't rise up to these kinds of comments. I've gotten 6 new girls this year as a broke ass student. Current one is literally a lingerie model. Check the scoreboard and kindly go fuck yourself afterwards. Maybe I'll get to treat your burst aneurysm in a few years from the high blood pressure not being able to deal with women rationally clearly causes you.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/15 08:20 PM
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I always thought the equal housework thing only applied to dual income families. The only context I knew it in was my own parents, who both make the same amount of money, so I thought it was a legit claim. I actually never even considered that stay at home partners make their working partner do half the housework. Dude you sure that's a thing, like actually doing half the work? As opposed to like symbolically washing the dishes once in a while?
/r/TheRedPill07/07/15 07:29 PM
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Yea for sure. My saving grace is I communicated with her very clearly. I'm only 25 and a student right now. She even told me what you just did. I was like "yea. It's very possible." I guess my second saving grace is that there are a higher proportion of Asian American RP women compared to white RP women, so as an Asian American guy, it's easier to go back to the well whe the time comes.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/15 12:30 AM
6

Haha yea. My cousins in China tell me casual dating still isn't really accepted. All dating has to at least nominally be goal oriented towards marriage. Different culture. On the flip side you're less likely to get s divorce because divorcees are still considered baaaad people haha.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/15 10:53 PM
5

Ya word. My friend group from college all moved to the same apartment complex post college. Ranges from post grad 4 years to just out of college. Haha we basically run an informal "how to text and tinder" workshop every other night and teach the younger guys what we know. They learn and get results and are happy and it forces you as the teacher to stay sharp too, kinda feel like you can't let the young guys pass you up haha.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/15 10:41 PM
2

Yea yea. Thought about my own question a bit. The average male is just a fuckhead. Plus I was in debate in high school haha. Guess the training did something...
/r/TheRedPill06/07/15 09:50 PM
1

Vet it first. I've seen some sports team become the most aggressively self reinforcing white-knight spaces I've ever encountered. Don't ask me how it happens. I've seen it though.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/15 09:32 PM
2

Sadly enough I've recently met my first real RP woman (Asian American) who hates feminism and brings me delicious food when she comes over and is definitely there to please me. Asked me to basically be the "old school (RP) man" of the relationship, but all I wanna do is keep on with spinning plates.. I honestly feel a little bad haha.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/15 09:30 PM
4

I don't know why this is, but I have ways found feminism talking points extremely easy to shut down. I really really am not trying to brag, I promise. While I fully agree with the article, the whole time I was thinking "I am not sure why female shaming bothers some guys so much." In my opinion, they aren't especially strong talking points. For example, let's say a girl is like "a real man would marry a single mom." I always just say "it doesn't feel right raising someone else's kid. Feels icky, …
/r/TheRedPill06/07/15 09:04 AM
1

Nah it's the older generation I'm talking about. It's more cultural than anything else. People flatter the shit out of each other. It's part of the "losing face/saving face" culture. Haven't seen much of that with the younger generation and zero with young Asian Americans. The point is- compliments are stupid. Haha. And this dynamic highlighted by OP is a big enough thing to warrant parents of an entire culture warning their kids about it.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/15 07:31 AM
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Dude. If you really had an abundance mentality, partway through each relationship you start thinking "wow this girl is real cool and this is great, but I really wish I had a good reason to break up with her so I can go for other girls" then to "wow I hope she breaks up with me." And afterwards you wish her the best. In my mind, you only hate her and feel jealous of her new boyfriend if you are ... too attached? And didn't want her to leave? And maybe think she's a bit of a unicorn? Or maybe just…
/r/TheRedPill06/07/15 05:12 AM
1

In my own mid twenties young professional male social group, sometimes I'll hear "yea he's way more motivated nowadays. He goes out clubbing like 2-3 times a week." I am currently trying to kill that idea.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/15 11:56 PM
1

Well I get what you're saying and agree, but you also aren't going to be pursuing the average female. So since yall both have higher SMW, these statistical trends may hold true. It's hard to say, there are a lot of ways the data could be stratified that aren't apparent from that article.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/15 10:09 PM
5

I'm getting too strung out on compliments/overdosed on confidence/starting not to give a fuck and stop fearing the consequence. Haha whatever as long as you see what is going on and know what you want in your heart, just enjoy the little ego candy they give you. Edit: you see this a lot in the Asian community. Most people's parents teach them as a little kid to tune out all the fake compliments.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/15 09:39 PM
1

Whatever I appreciated the post. As I've gotten more RP I found more and more of those things relatable.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/15 11:15 PM
-4

When I see my exes with quality guys I smile and say good for them and am happy that they made it. I mean we are talking about a person you cared deeply for and maybe even loved once. I always help them if I can.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/15 11:05 PM
2

You see this on absolute overdrive when a high SMW guy breaks up with a white girl of any attractiveness and the next girl is an Asian.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/15 11:00 PM
1

I definitely see what you're saying with girls in general. But I've found the girls I have met on rotation have been a cut above. I mean by definition they chose to go to med school with us instead of doing some stupid mid twenties girl thing instead. Some might argue they have an easier time, but med school at 80% difficulty is still tough. Maybe you just got a bad draw? Btw I think there are a lot of other issues on rotation that women introduce, but I just haven't found this to be one of them…
/r/TheRedPill04/07/15 10:54 PM
5

You're in the springtime of your youth, rock lee. Haha sorry that was kinda gay, couldn't resist.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/15 10:30 PM
8

Agreeeeeed. When I went from tall and fat to tall and not fat, even without lifting, I got a lot of IOIs from girls. I only see them in retrospect though. I was still "fat" in my mind at the time and didn't see them at all. Missed out on some pretty girls :(
/r/TheRedPill04/07/15 10:30 PM
3

Yea I take them as compliments. I also don't try to pass each one though. Just see them and the pass/fail them strategically. Just like when your guys friends are like "get your bitchass in here you faggot" it really means "it's good to see you. Welcome in."
/r/TheRedPill03/07/15 11:39 PM
2

Look man. I'm a pretty tall and big Asian-American guy (yellow). Also Texas. I do well with women, recently I've even been doing really well with women. And I have gone through periods where I could have written that exact same post you just did with conviction in my heart. That being said. I think there's definitely a difference between operant assumptions that we should live by and actually seeing the very real racial-hierarchies in America. Sure I agree that most people who up vote "race whin…
/r/TheRedPill03/07/15 10:32 PM
1

I think what the other dude means is they start giving you IOIs. Great article btw. Never thought of it that way before.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/15 10:13 PM
3

I liked this. One of the key things that got me to see and quickly abandon my "don't talk to a girl until you're a good doctor/provider" sexual strategy was seeing my oneitis crush fucking a washed-out chiropractor. Haha it was an epiphany.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/15 10:10 PM
1

I would say "dude how did you forget some sort of climb or goal to work towards?" But you kind of cover that in the money section. And health, but that's kinda there too.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/15 02:35 AM
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Haha awesome snappy reply. Although it's not just some thing women only do to shame men. Women shame women who sleep around. Men shame women who sleep around. Some men even shame other men. Basically everyone shames everyone who gets laid a lot. Probably jealous.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/15 02:25 AM
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Haha yea, the "off-white" guys... What can I say, still gotta get out there and play. I misunderstood your post. I thought you were arguing "the disadvantage of being Asian American is not real" instead of "the disadvantage of being Asian American is real but no greater than any other minority male." I agree with the second statement. Again with the exception of the "off-white" guys.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/15 07:03 PM
5

As an Asian American and also someone who plays the game at a decently high level. It's definitely half a half. As in you are partially right and it's on the guy himself and how he is raised and what he does. The other half is definitely on social perceptions of America though. Like it's a real thing haha. I'm the only Asian male in my group of 6-7 close male friends. I definitely have to do a bit more and still get a little bit worse results than my white friends. It can be very context depende…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/15 06:50 PM
1

What's a quality girl in your mind?
/r/TheRedPill30/06/15 12:00 AM
3

One of the ways you can tell if abundance mentality has really kicked in is, if for some reason a girl manages to finagle commitment out of you, you start hoping she will get bored of you or cheat so you can break up with her guilt free and go for other girls. And yes I get that the ideal RP man wouldn't feel that guilt or obligation in the first place, but I do haha. So do probably a lot of guys. I mean sometimes the girl is really nice to you..
/r/TheRedPill29/06/15 11:25 PM
10

This seems to happen to any decently attractive guy, or scratch that, any guy with close male friends. I've never once seen the accusation actually stick.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/15 11:20 PM
1

But they still get surveyed right?
/r/TheRedPill29/06/15 08:04 PM
1

Well dude this is clearly bs. Unless the dudes are banging each other or there are a loot of threesomes with 2 dudes and 1 girl. It takes one male and one female to have a "partner". I mean I guess gays having a high partner count could skew things up.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/15 07:04 PM
1

I think among the more experienced posters what you just said is accepted as true.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 05:53 PM
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I did, but then again my dad has always been rather open minded. Asian societies are for the most part very RP already, and Asians are nothing if not practical and adaptable (and kinda competitive). I mean all the aunties talking about if the guy was from a good family and all the women making dumplings and talking about whose daughter will make the best bride was their version of a sexual strategy forum. I mean Just takes some explaining to show the rules of the game have changed.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 02:57 AM
2

Kinda going off what OP is saying. Everything that is taught is a viable strategy, just not necessarily one that is the best for the time and place it's being applied to. And that's not just sexual strategies. There are people who use non-viable strategies that they just make up. We call them "mentally insane" and put them in asylums.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 02:24 AM
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Haha and, because of the cultural context and what is valued in it, she probably thinks Yuan Jia at the Jin Wu martial arts association down the street is a fucking blowhard rice-less loser. Despite his alpha dgaf qualities and eight pack. I preemptively apologize to all Asian American intellectuals and writers for this horrible appropriation of my own culture I'm using to make a point.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 02:18 AM
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Also those Indiophiles sound funny and fun as shit, if they are anything like the yellow fever girls. I've gone on a couple of dates where I literally watch some YouTube clips of Korean drama scenes right before I head out the door to remind myself what their idea of an alpha male is.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 12:44 AM
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Fucking great post. Round of applause and thumbs up from me. Applies equally well to East Asians. I'm Asian American btw. I think this sub horribly conflates and confuses the terms alpha/beta and hot-guy/provider. You can be an Alpha provider or a beta provider. Sure beta providers are probably more common in 2015 USA, but that doesn't necessarily have to be the case and hasn't always been. I'm sure some farmer in 1900 China could have been like "suck my dick and cook me some food, I just plante…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 12:18 AM
1

Yea good for you. I'm not sure if the girl throws a lot of IOIs it's even considered a cold approach. A bit fuzzy on my pick-up/RP terminology.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/15 07:43 PM
2

Yea I mean. You can generally tell who to approach based on IOIs. Women don't go around and give nice smiles to everyone all day you know, or they'd get asked out 100 times a day. That being said if you are the true RP zen ideal you'd cold approach any girl you find attractive and be completely outcome independent. But that's pretty hard haha.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/15 05:24 PM
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Da fuk. I don't know anyone's birthday. That's what Facebook is for.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/15 05:19 PM
1

I'm still in med school so lots of years away from that. I've seen plenty of examples though. Most of the time however they weren't exactly your incels to begin with. They were the guys hooking up with 5's and 6's and dating 7's and 8's. Then they get out of training and become chad. As far as elaborating. I mean I guess I was somewhat fixed up, some lessons stuck and some didn't. There was some backsliding like you said but not a regression to baseline. Then I kept learning on my own and now I'…
/r/TheRedPill25/06/15 11:11 PM
1

Well the thing is there is no real hypergamy because you're very poor AND very busy as a med student. Basically worst of all possible worlds. Now you can be chad thundercock student-doctor while in med school and get plenty of girls, but if you date one they will almost certainly take on something of a project mentality.
/r/TheRedPill25/06/15 11:07 PM
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You can be open with her, get her nice things (although I dunno why you would), eat her out, meet her friends, post pics together on Facebook, go on real dates, whatever. As long as you aren't afraid to walk away or let her walk away, and she knows this, you're golden. As drake would say: know yourself know your worth nigga
/r/TheRedPill25/06/15 08:57 PM
1

Solid post. Lots of fixer-uppers going for med students from my vantage point (as a med student). Sometimes it works out and you see these average women with these balling-ass doctors, and whatever good for them, they seem happy together. A lot of times the girl gets dumped right before the guy reaches the pot of gold at the end of residency. Ouch. The guy then has a renaissance. It's the nerd's equivalent to the natural alpha's "college experience", haha. And sometimes the med student doesn't a…
/r/TheRedPill25/06/15 08:54 PM
2

Just wanted to say I really liked this post. Sounds like the writing of a grown-ass man.
/r/TheRedPill24/06/15 05:50 PM
3

My go to line is "I promise I'm way better in person" Which is actually a horrible lie haha. It's way easier to look like the man on tinder for me.
/r/askTRP24/06/15 06:17 AM
4

we have a pretty realistic view of smv over at r/Asianmasculinity. Doesn't mean we like it or don't want to change it, but it is what it is. You gotta understand we get a lot of younger geeky Asian incels transition out of that who we hope to be able to help a bit but who say deluded stuff sometimes just like there's a lot of guys coming out of the anger phase who say stupid shit here. Haha I think it's a really good subreddit for Asian guys.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/15 10:25 PM
1

Well ok that's a legitimate point but completely different than the one I was making haha. But yea, sounds like a decent analogy I agree with you.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/15 12:25 AM
1

Great post. I wanted to add another kind of paying your dues is recognizing the guys who blazed the way or came before. Be it your favorite pick-up author or, since it's just post Father's Day, your dad or whatever.
/r/TheRedPill22/06/15 10:07 PM
6

The worlds a big place with lots of niches. Any male who has a good body and carries himself well is some pretty girl's chad.
/r/TheRedPill22/06/15 09:56 PM
2

Well no my point was that because of the poverty. Everyone's baser nature including things like hypergamy were on full display.
/r/TheRedPill22/06/15 09:19 PM
1

Reading this stuff really makes me happy to be Asian American. I guess white people in the west have just forgotten the transactional nature of relationships and sex. I remember my grandparents who have been married for like 50 years were sitting together once. Grandma was like "I was the prettiest girl around and your grandfather was so fucking ugly, but he was educated and I thought he he had qualities that would let him make it, so I married him." Gramps, who in all fairness was never a real …
/r/TheRedPill22/06/15 06:36 PM
1

Ehhhh. I get decent mileage out of being a med student and I tell girls I'll be completely done with training in 7(!) years. That being said what you outlined in your post has definitely crossed my mind many times. I think women are a spectrum when it comes to this sort of thing.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/15 11:28 PM
1

You know I've thought a lot about that topic. My position is a med student, so lots of upside but negative income AND no time right now, so the worst of all worlds. It makes sense that hypergamy is a "what can the guy do for me now" mentality. In a few years when I have more time and money it's questionable that I would stay with the same girl I am with now, you know?
/r/TheRedPill15/06/15 08:56 PM
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Yea there was quite a bit of discussion about this on some of the minority-oriented "RP-like" subs. As an East Asian guy in Texas I agree with this. It's not that people are actually less prejudiced in liberal areas I think, it's just they are less overt about it. This means the minority guys that get beaten down by overt racism get really beaten down, but if you make it, it's easier to stand out and be the "yea but that guy is cool" guy. Conservative areas tend to have less of a "coddling and f…
/r/TheRedPill14/06/15 09:52 PM
9

I used to ask questions like this all the time until one day I concluded that: All of life is a giant shit (fitness) test. Seriously. Haha
/r/TheRedPill14/06/15 06:08 PM
2

Thing is. Maybe a lot of those guys fucked any number of hot girls or has hot girls on the side. Maybe their wife or gf has some other qualities, maybe they make a mean stir fry and the guy really likes his stir fry. it's hard to tell, you know? Especially as guys get older people get tired of playing the game.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/15 05:39 PM
2

I mean dude maybe their fire is in their career and not women. It's a respectable choice.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/15 01:53 AM
5

Dude there is nothing irrational about this fear. First time I went on a late night plan B run the GIRL started laughing at how freaked out I was haha. Although granted my grasp of reproductive physiology really wasn't all that strong back then. But seriously. It's not an irrational fear.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/15 05:42 AM
1

Yea but what I've found is after a while when guys get more established careers and stuff nobody wants to be second banana and people kind of go their own ways. Which is fine. I mean still friends but not super tight like in college.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/15 05:38 AM
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I dont know about your analysis of male relationships. I've found male groups to be very hierarchial. Sure once the hierarchy is established then everyone is chill, but at first it can be pretty intense. I wouldn't say anyone leaves their egos at the door in all male groups.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/15 08:23 PM
1

Haha well I don't know if I "can't" as in cannot make myself do it or "can't" as in am actually unable to do it. Less smart people have their own ways of showing value that I am probably bad at. Basically I never really tried. But I mean I don't think it's some exalted goal to become the best player of the game possible. Feel like as long as I am happy doing what I'm doing that's good enough.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/15 05:46 PM
1

But they're so hot sometimes... Especially through the eyes of a tired M3 haha. Plus aren't nurses decently high on the hospital totem pole? There's the techs and respiratory therapists and PT/OT and EMTs and drug reps and the janitor below them and really only MDs and PAs above them right? And there's the power of suggestion. I can't even get through an episode of GoT without having a glass of wine. I'm sure everyone asking them "when you gonna get with a rich doctor" 10x a day fucks with their…
/r/TheRedPill10/06/15 07:58 AM
7

Maybe I have something to offer here. I typically only get with smart girls and girls who value intelligence (my friend joked once that the average verbal SAT score of the girls I hook up with is definitely over 720). This is because of both my preference and who I am, and for most people those things are probably hopelessly entangled. I'm basically a nerdy Asian dude at heart but who learned the game and went to the weight room and gained confidence. A big part of my approach still flaunts inte…
/r/TheRedPill10/06/15 07:43 AM
1

This applies very well to high smv minority males in the eyes of women who will categorically not entertain the idea of being with that type of minority. For any high smv male though, I think there are plenty of women to go around.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/15 08:15 PM
2

Haha I liked that. Learned a lot about this topic this year actually. Med students are shuffled around to different services in different parts of the hospital every month or so. You get a new team of peers fairly often. Interactions with superiors and inferiors (like attending doctors and patient techs or the janitor or whatever) in the hospital hierarchy are somewhat preset. I've seen guys/gals transcend or descend the hospital hierarchy, but it's rare and takes a lot. Every time a new med stu…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/15 03:33 AM
1

Yea I don't buy into that dichotomy either, or at least not that it's innate. the thing is even if it's conditioned. Skills like managing relationships, intuiting people's emotions, multitasking, and other "female" skills are reaaaaalllly important to being a doctor. But for an engineer probably not so much compared to the actual skill of solving engineering problems.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/15 03:38 PM
1

2 generations ago medicine was like 80%+ men. When they first started admitting more women it was very controversial. I have some older female attending docs I've worked with who told stories about their own male attendings would purposely tried to make them cry and break them so they could either pick themselves back up or get drummed out of medicine altogether. This sort of thing happens to every person in med school and residency, and whether or not the attendings really did pick on the girl …
/r/TheRedPill01/06/15 06:59 AM
1

Yea fair enough. Thinking about what you said, I've met attendings who are ten kinds of fucked-up in their personal life. The male ones in typical "male" ways and the women in typical "women" ways. Step into the hospital and its like they become a different person. Also if you buy into the whole men=linear-thinking vs. women= intuitive thinking and multitasking thing, I would say practicing (non-research) medicine requires more of the latter skill set.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/15 06:53 AM
1

"With these applications, girls can no longer evaluate self esteem and any other character traits of a guy (thus no red pill frame strategies), since they only see pictures of guys, judging them just for their looks. " This isn't really true. You gotta establish character traits for almost all girls before they will actually go on the tinder date. This is my biggest knock on tinder- that it just takes a lot of time and effort to establish these traits virtually.
/r/TheRedPill31/05/15 06:13 AM
1

I think the usual analogy I've seen people make is between asian men and black women. But all of this analysis in both the article and comments applies exactly the same.
/r/TheRedPill31/05/15 06:09 AM
3

...and she dates/fucks minority guys because its cool and progressive. Asian male here. Trust me man. edit- It lets them be with a traditionally high SMV guy without negating their values/image. Plus a lot of high SMV white guys won't go for them anyways, cuz its declasse. haha
/r/TheRedPill31/05/15 06:00 AM
1

dude i've written like three multi-paragraph comments on the asian masculinity sub on this topic. Its also kind of a lively area of discussion in general, although that sub is moving more towards political/professional oriented topics. Which isn't a bad thing.
/r/TheRedPill31/05/15 05:58 AM
2

Halo effect applies MASSIVELY to race. People are taught that you shouldn't discriminate and be racist and most people realize its actually kind of fucked up. If you're an attractive (high SMV) minority dude girls get to feel progressive and modern while being with you. If you're an unattractive (low SMV) minority dude you're the dirty mexican/yellow peril/white-girl-crazy-ghetto-person.
/r/TheRedPill31/05/15 05:56 AM
1

I get what you're saying and wanted to agree, but then I tried to apply it to my own life a bit. The women in medicine seem to do pretty well at the student, resident and attending physician level. The disease doesn't know if its a man or woman treating it and can't implement affirmative action. Why do you think that is?
/r/TheRedPill31/05/15 05:41 AM
2

dude moderate feminism is just someone's way of saying "yea i support women being equal and all but don't really give a shit about this topic for the most part."
/r/TheRedPill25/05/15 03:18 AM
1

You're right. I already knew what you just said but it didn't come to me when I typed that comment. The more nuanced discussion should be that a lot of people in those professions tend to be AFC's, but I disagree with the idea that those professions themselves are what is holding them back. They would be even more heinous AFCs in a different profession. The reason it didn't come to me was because of the doctors I am working with now, one of them has fucked literally more than half the hot nurses…
/r/TheRedPill25/05/15 03:03 AM
2

Where does that put a med student? No time or money but with physician status. In my experience its kind of interesting. Girls aren't so coldly calculating as to be actually take all of this into account, the whole medicine thing just factors more into their attraction. I really don't know about the whole "when a woman finds out what you do for a living, she'll view you as a potential provider and hold off on having sex with you because she wants to appear high-value and chaste" thing. This is r…
/r/TheRedPill25/05/15 02:01 AM
4

Nah man. Shit tests are a compliment. It means the girl is intrigued by you and wants to find out more. A girl who really didn't give a fuck about you would just ignore you completely.
/r/TheRedPill12/05/15 12:07 AM
1

Yea it's habit forming. I try to say only a casual "my bad" instead of sorry in a social way and a sincere "I apologize" instead of sorry when I really mean it. Good way to drop the habit of using that word.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/15 03:42 AM
2

"I don't even know why Asian parents do it when they see the reality out there for how weak men are treated but they still do it." As an asian american, this is also a HUGE mystery to me. I actually directly asked my parents and some other older folk I am close to. I make an effort to socialize with them at asian potlucks instead of playing xbox (partially because i puke if i play first person shooters haha). When they talk among themselves, you can actually tell they feel guilty too that they p…
/r/TheRedPill09/05/15 01:04 AM
3

"The impression I get is that most Asian and Indian men who fully complete their red pill transformation will have bad relationships with their parents. Your parents don't want you sleeping around with attractive girls of other races, they want you to settle down with the Asian girl who neglected you in her younger years and is only going for you because she is past her prime." This post is right in principle but this line is bs. Asian parents, like all parents, mostly just want you to be happy.…
/r/TheRedPill09/05/15 12:55 AM
1

Sorry I didn't mean soecialities as in surgery vs medicine. I meant like PA to nursing to MD
/r/TheRedPill07/05/15 01:22 PM
3

And starting over completely. I've seen some smart smart PAs and some dumb doctors. Guess who gets to talk down to who and who gets to be the boss? If I were a smart PA I would be so angry, you know? But after actually reading some of the articles you posted I see how PA can be a good path to enter the middle class. It takes a staggering amount of resources to get your MD. Time, money, your own health and such included. Funnily enough, doctors tend to even get some of the drawbacks of blue colla…
/r/TheRedPill07/05/15 04:53 AM
4

Yea but a PA is basically a permanent resident. Your notes even say "pa used because no qualified resident available" It just doesn't seem pleasant man. Like it's cool when you're young but when you get old... Medicine is weird in that you don't advance after you go into it. You can't go from assistant to nurse to PA to MD. What you go in as is all you're ever going to be, so a lot of people seem to get frustrated. Especially PAs.
/r/TheRedPill07/05/15 04:45 AM
2

I strongly disagree with being a PA. You have to listen to some doctor talk down to you for the rest of your life. Even after 15 years when you know what you're doing. I see a lot of PAs as a med student. They all seem either dis invested in their work, comfortable being second fiddle (a lot of women and really old guys), or just frustrated. I mean yea the training period in medicine is long but it's not unlike monk mode. If you go into it with the right mindset you will absolutely come out a be…
/r/TheRedPill07/05/15 03:52 AM
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Yea doctors don't even tell people to not eat red meat anymore. Doesn't give you colon cancer. research is trending in showing that dietary cholesterol has minimal impact on blood cholesterol. Plus we have the modern miracles of zetia and statins. Praise be to whoever developed them.
/r/TheRedPill06/05/15 08:11 AM
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I mean, I generally make one (1) reference to ethnicity on my dates just to how I acknowledge and am comfortable with race (I'm east asian). After that I let it rest. Self-deprecating jokes are only good on dates when they are in an area you are clearly superior in, imo.
/r/TheRedPill30/04/15 04:17 PM
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I would say its because the number and attractiveness of women who we bang and who look up to us is one of the only accurate feedback mechanisms for where we are in life in our world of outright lies and bullshit feedback. As such your views don't reflect an obsession with women but an obsession with your self-worth using women as a yardstick. How much money we have is probably the only other really objective measurement I can really think of.
/r/TheRedPill26/04/15 04:18 AM
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and the last third that is just as important as these other two. The number of girls you approach is like how many clients you approach to sell to.
/r/TheRedPill26/04/15 04:08 AM
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so I tried for literally 10 years to correct my posture till finally succeeding a year or so ago. For me at least, the change had to come from within. Basically i couldn't treat it as a physical problem but rather a psychological one. By sorting out my life to a point where it made sense to me, starting a good workout routine, dressing better, and starting a position where I was treated as a much higher status person on a daily basis, my posture improved on its own. If i were to hazard an analys…
/r/TheRedPill15/04/15 03:04 AM
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Haha no bro it's not about being afraid she will leave. I have no complaints at all about the number of plates I have right now or ability to get new girls. I just don't enjoy adversarial dynamics after 12 hours of dealing with snappy attendings and demanding patients, haha. It's strictly a personal preference thing and not an "effectiveness" thing.
/r/TheRedPill11/04/15 10:07 PM
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Right. What I'm trying to say is that my lifestyle naturally creates the dynamics of "dread game". However if I specifically want to not create those "dread game" dynamics I can explain why I was busy to her. Reasons I sometimes have for not wanting "dread game" dynamics is because 1. It's kind of adversarial and I don't particularly enjoy it 2. Too much dread game and she can decide this just ain't worth it and 3. Probably a bit of empathy for not wanting to put someone through the stress of wa…
/r/TheRedPill11/04/15 08:01 PM
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But derm and plastic surgery has a lot more fit and attractive people in it. Gotta look good in those fields or it becomes a "doctor heal thyself" thing.
/r/askTRP11/04/15 07:55 PM
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Yea residency is what gets people fat. No sleep and high stress but free food all the time. Also you know, doctors get so desensitized to people's parts that your wang being out probably didn't even register to her.
/r/askTRP11/04/15 07:54 PM
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Haha I agree with this. At the hospital you meet some alpha female surgeons who hacked it in the competitive male world of surgery, which is by far the most male-dominated space I've ever encountered. Way more so than any football locker room or frat. They have no need for a BB provider since they are surgeons. They tend to be married to sigma guys, I've noticed.
/r/askTRP11/04/15 05:25 PM
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Agreed with this comment. My #1 passion in life is psychology haha. chicks dig it. I think rationalmale or one of the blogs talked about "chick crack", or things that women like like mysticism, yoga, Palm reading etc etc and how it is effective for a guy to fake them a bit to get girls. Well guys like me and you have genuine "chick crack interests", so be proud of them for both their utilitarian value and for their own sake.
/r/askTRP11/04/15 05:21 PM
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Wow. Just wow. I called my father after reading this.
/r/TheRedPill11/04/15 04:54 PM
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No I understand this. I don't feel there is a need to. What I meant was this: dread game should be controlled. If I don't respond because I was in an operating room for 8 hours it's my choice whether or not to tell her that, depending on if I want to generate "dread game" dynamics in that situation. Similarly if I just don't respond because I am distracted or something, I can use the "busy" card if I don't want to generate dread game dynamics. If I do then I wouldn't use that card. My point was …
/r/TheRedPill11/04/15 04:52 PM
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I have noticed what OP points out in my own life since starting medical school. Actually even when I delay a text (I call it "cooking" a text haha, kind of like cooking food until it's ready), I sometimes tell them it's because I had a patient to see or an operation to assist on. It achieves the positive effect while making a less adversarial relationship. It does negate dread game but too much dread isn't good either.
/r/TheRedPill11/04/15 04:14 PM
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Idunno I'm a peasant and have never read Kierkegaard.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 11:28 PM
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I think the "What next" question tends to fall outside the scope of this forum. The "whats next" is just whatever your want. I would even argue that the main idea of this place is to generate the intrinsic will to go for what you want. For most guys that just happens to be women. Haha glad to hear another guy finally use the phrase "slave morality" around here. I still believe RP is mostly applied Nietszche.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 11:00 PM
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legit post. I have noticed this type of thinking also on this forum. My grandfather used to tell me this chinese story (im asian america haha) about this famous general that was bullied heavily and humiliated by this gang in his hometown. Becuse of this he goes off to the capitol and becomes a solider rather than staying as a farmer, which was considered the better path. Eventually he fights many wars for China and comes back a powerful victorious general. He visits his hometown with his sword a…
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 08:28 PM
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I have at least one female friend like this and met a couple more. Its usually women who are both really intelligent and have had a really fucking rough life but managed to overcome it. I mean same goes for men really.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 07:00 AM
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Well OP posted using his own mother as an example, so I don't wanna be saying bad things about people's mom's now haha. Anyways, I see what i said in use a lot so I get how its useful. Its not so much the ugly girls who think they are hot that you use that method on. Its the hot girls who think they are jesus come back to life.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/15 06:05 AM
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No you're right in principle 100% on what you said and I agree with your content. It's just that nobody who has ever lived through a minority experience would say it the way you do so cavalierly. That's what rubs people the wrong way. I've told a lot of guys that exact line you used about how minorities falsely and stupidly pin their failures in race and I believe it myself. For white guys there is no such mental fallback. I would even argue that this lack of excuse alone probably bumps up the g…
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 05:43 PM
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do you have a citation for the high T thing? I have never heard of such a that before but am curious.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 03:47 PM
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i agree with this 100% I got to slowly work my way up in the tinder game. The pictures that bumped the quality and quantity of matches I got and girls i closed we not the ones i expected. They were not the ones that i percieved as "good" pictures of me. They were: 1.one where I am pressing my arm against my side in a tanktop (it looks natural in the pic). It makes my arm look way bigger than it is. Kinda like what OP is saying, it was the weirdest fucking thought to me that women are attracted t…
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 10:46 AM
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yes. for the reasons you would expect no. it shows a lack of self control and thus fitness and can get lumped in with the kiss of death category of "mental instability".
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 10:14 AM
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Yea this is a phenomenal post acutally. I agree with all of it except the part where you can just forget that you are a minority. Thats completely retarded. As an asian guy, our demographic is pretty actively sought after by black girls. A lot of them are into korean culture. The final step in me letting go of my minority complexes is realizing that until i found it within myself to go for one of these cute black girls that always are after me, I have no right to complain about racism.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 10:06 AM
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Also I've had two black friends who specialized in asian americans. One with super nerdy and timid asian girls. He did this by basically being a stereotypical asian guy but one that would actually nut up and go for these girls. The second was a hipster and kept a very jealous eye on his social capital. He rocked the whole artsy photographer vibe but was also naturally an athletic dude. This worked well for him.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 09:59 AM
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The analysis on asian american women was phenomenal. Thank you for sharing that. I am an asian american guy btw. I have that exact issue you described to the point where I do better with white girls nowadays than my own race, haha. I didn't realize it extended actively to white guys. The one thing I would add to your statement is that latina women are the fucking way to go. Beautiful, intellectual, passionate women and without a lot of white women racial complexes.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 09:57 AM
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I am talking mostly about professional settings. Its less obvious in social settings but the principle is definitely still valid.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 08:39 AM
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Yea really smart attractive males tend to be able to sense something is off in the dynamic we are talking about in this discussion. Some of them, in the process of figuring out wtf is going on via studying psychology, find out they really enjoy it and become psychiatrists. There have been a few too many of these types I have met in psychiatry to be coincidental. Of course small sample size and underpowered for me to make any actual claim.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 08:08 AM
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Yea dude I've noticed this too. The ridiculously good looking guys most of the time just want to be treated like any other guy and be "one of the guys" in a social context. When you treat them like a normal person and just part of the team, you can almost see the relief and gratitude flash across their eyes. This principle also applies to hot girls.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 06:43 AM
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Haha yea. When I'm unpacking some life themes for a girl (or guy actually), that moment when the light goes on in their eyes and I can just see them thinking "holy shit this guy is right and knows me better than I know myself even". And then when they are doing better in a few weeks and take the time to come back and thank you sometimes. I love that moment. Some life-affirming shit right there.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 06:09 AM
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I agree with this perspective 100%. But also think its important that these "alternative goals" with women are what you genuinely want and not a result of rationalizations (hamstering). I also have female friends like the one you described. Its great.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 06:07 AM
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This is some pretty solid analysis.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 01:29 AM
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Yea I mean. I'm honestly in between how much of this is my hamstering and how much is legit. When I was younger I used to do this from a beta kind of place all the time for girls. Definitely had an appeasement mindset. Nowadays I only do it for girls that I have already slept with and even then only for 1 session at most. That and very sporadically in my social circle when the I see a person/situation that I really think I could do some good in, but this is for both guys and girls.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 01:28 AM
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I think for the most part, when guys listen to girls problems it comes from a beta kind of place. That being said. When sigmund freud or Carl Jung sat down with their patients, do you think they had this beta mindset, or do you think they had more of a surgeons mindset with the genuine belief that they could fix these people by the strength of their analysis and beauty of the insight and ideas? That's kind of what I am getting at, that alpha vs beta is exclusive as we both agree on, but alpha is…
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 10:18 PM
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My family is from China. BB traits are much much more respected there because there is less of a safety net and people are poorer and the spectre of not having enough to eat is very real and in living cultural memory. A lot of feminist mindset was shaped by the abundance of the last generation. I wouldn't be suprised if the pendulum starts swinging back the other way within our lifetime because of how fucking poor America is getting and how much people are struggling. This has no bearing on acti…
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 09:26 PM
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I'm a med student. My talent is definitely in mental health though I won't be going into it. Haha yea that sort of psychoanalysis game is very natural to me. Even when I was a lot more beta and had very little else going for me, I got a couple of girls basically off of that strength alone.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 09:21 PM
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Asian American checking in. We have an active discussion on game in the asianmasculinity subreddit. All of my race specific game tips go there.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 09:18 PM
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Nah it's just the ones who don't do well are the ones who complain. Nobody is gonna write a post that says "I live in a luxury apt with my six best friends in three rooms on the same hallway. We are all engineers and get bottle service twice a month and go out twice a week and fuck way more and way hotter girls than we did in college. Life is awesome." Even though that is the reality for a lot of guys out there. All the hot girls in college you are picking from now arent going to magically vanis…
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 09:08 PM
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I think that this analysis, while very rational, leaves out the fact that people have an inherent desire to be with one another. An older woman may not need to be with anyone for exactly the reasons you outlined, but she would still get lonely and would want to. This puts her back into the sexual marketplace.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 09:02 PM
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Ok so this post is about your mom so I want to tread very lightly and don't want to offend you. But here is the thing. Women who badly overestimate their smv, regardless of how attractive they are, will never get the guys they want. As a result they tend to be miserable, lonely, and entitled. A friend of mine joking refers to these kinds of women as his speciality. There is a grain of truth in that joke. If you are a guy whose smv should be able to get her ACTUAL smv but are failing because of h…
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 08:59 PM
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I agree with this. The key is that you have to place yourself first and always be focused on you want. That does not preclude being kind to her, as long as you understand that it comes from a place of your own will rather than appeasement of her. For example, I know this sounds ridiculous, but I am a really good amateur psychoanalyst. I have had some professional training and learned a lot on my own and have a very very solid grasp of the principles and algorithms in clinical psychiatry. I've ha…
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 08:46 PM
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I was gonna say. Pop warner and the basketball team aren't going anywhere. It's a huge stretch to think the classroom is set up that way specifically to persecute boy. Probably a combination of lack of teacher manpower to supervise rough play and a classroom setup that reflects corporate culture. But yea, after school sports.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 08:35 PM
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Also this is a great chance to google "I would rather cry in the backseat of a BMW than laugh in the back of a bicycle" It was a huge media scandal in China and is a good illustration of a lot of what we are talking about here.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/15 05:28 PM
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High status, not rich Those are different things, this sub goes through great pains to explain that. Plus girls in China have their daddy's money to a much greater extent, assuming their daddies actually have money.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/15 05:26 PM
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Haha this is the best thing I have read in a while. Two thumbs up and my hat off to you.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/15 05:25 PM
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Oh whoops you're right. I was fuzzy on my terminology. edit: and it seems like from all the upvotes my post got, some other people here are fuzzy on their terminology too...
/r/TheRedPill28/02/15 03:26 PM
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its not. hypergamy is minimal in china and sleeping around and even casual dating (dating with no intention to marry) is not culturally accepted. Think of it as a 1:1 match of A men to B women, B men to C women, etc etc etc. In china they are just way more strict about financial and social class pairings instead of personal characteristics of charm and build and frame and forwardness.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/15 06:44 AM
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Ok so here is the thing about china. In china because the society was so poor for so long, BB traits are massively valued because the alternative in the cultural collective memory is still "literally starving to death". This is starting to change, but because of the holdover from prior generations, there are just many fewer "alpha" guys out there in general. Women are much more accepting of beta traits because they may not have encountered anything different their entire lives. They are really p…
/r/TheRedPill28/02/15 06:40 AM
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Ahahaha. Man this is definitely not what I needed to read while learning ekg's for my med school test tomorrow. Only the thought of, you know, actually being a good doctor for its own sake keeps me going hahaha.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 05:46 AM
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I have a friend who can wear counterfeit stuff, I never do. The "not faking it" isn't for her really, it's more for me. For me at least, it's life and ego affirming to get a girl on your own merits rather than ones you make up. I mean sure you can say that a man shouldn't depend on women for affirmation at all, but I am really not there. Plus I think that would take a good bit of the fun out of it.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/15 05:16 AM
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So what you said fits very well with the clinical symptom of anhedonia. It is one of the symptoms of depression but in and of itself is not enough for a diagnosis. Depression is perhaps over diagnosed and a lot of times may be other things in disguise. However, for some people who have a genetic predisposition it can be very real and unrelated to life choices and any action you can take or have taken. Depression can be a true brain chemical imbalance. This is especially true if you have a family…
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 11:54 PM
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"lift (still a long way to go tho)" and "medical student" tells like 90% of the story and problem here. It sounds like you're just having a little crisis of confidence that will go away soon. So I kind of relate to what you're saying. I am also a medical student (M3). I'm a bit asian looking (that was a joke, I'm asian-american). I'm also a bit tall. I don't play the guitar. I took a glance through your post-history. I was also a bit hung up on that "wealthy men and attractive women is a myth" a…
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 06:42 AM
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I agree with everything you said except this: "A lot of these guys realized that from that point on, the game was only going to get harder for them so they decided to settle down and get married." I've met a few naturals in my life and lived with a guy who was with a lot of really beautiful women when he was younger because he was the golden boy of his setting. He ended up with a girl who isn't on his level in terms of attractiveness (i hear comments all the time) but has a lot of great qualitie…
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 05:59 AM
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I use it. Less how its perscribed and more "as needed". It increases adrenaline and dopamine in the brain. How i always describe it is this: Imagine you are doing your favorite physical activity (not sex). A sport, hiking, sailing, whatever. Now seperate the physical tiredness and physical sensations from the mental state of feeling incredible pumped up and excited and enthusiastic and in the moment. I don't think it will increase your testosterone any directly. I mean if it gives you the motiva…
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 05:53 AM
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From what I've seen, any girl just out of college will be open to guys all the way to their mid thirties and sometimes even beyond. I haven't really noticed an upper cap for girls in their late(r) twenties. Granted I may lack perspective being 25.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 05:37 AM
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Nah dude it's not that. I'm Asian and doing pretty well nowadays. I definitely went through some of the same phases some of the whinny guys went through and see where they are coming from. The motivation isn't nearly as toxic as you describe. That being said I very much disagree with their perspective and agree that this forum is not an appropriate place to whine. I mean, basically there is a lot more to learn when your culture intrinsically raises males to be more "beta". there is a bit of smv …
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 04:13 AM
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Life man. I had a girl sleep in my bed on 3 seperate occasions and told me (I shit you not) that she had a dream about hooking up with me on the last occasion. Did not hook up with her. I wasn't even that beta really. I mean definitely not optimal frame but not "platonic friend" either. Live and learn...
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 03:58 AM
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So I am not saying this to discredit your post at all. If you're the same guy that writes the dark triad blog, holy shit I love your writing. But just read the "you read texts in your own voice" thing and went through my texts. I definitely appropriate the other persons voice to their texts instead of my own. Do you have any ideas on how typical this is versus how typical what you described is?
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 03:55 AM
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My life got like 10x better after I learned to give up my sense of entitlement.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 03:50 AM
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I disagree. I largely did the same thing OP did in college as a bio major and pre-med. I think a lot of people just don't put their social life as a priority.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/15 05:18 AM
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Asian guy here. Grew up in a pretty good mixed white/Asian community. The only time I've ever really heard yellow fever used truly pejoratively is when guys make fun of each other. Don't think I've ever heard the term used by women to criticize men. I could be wrong? Or I guess I've heard it used by white girls to criticize white men for going for only Asians and, you know, not going for them. I dunno, nobody seemed to take any of the criticisms that seriously though, which is good.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/15 06:05 AM
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Amen to that. Although I used to be fat in high school haha. 270-->205
/r/TheRedPill16/02/15 11:30 PM
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As a 6 ft plus Asian guy who has dated inter racially but also lives on this planet. This statement that "race only matters in rural areas" is straight up false. Non white decreases your smv. Not by the insurmountable amount some minority guys make it seem, but definitely some.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/15 11:49 AM
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Point taken. We aren't actually disagreeing anyways. I mentioned that the time commitment was your most legitimate point and you expanded on why exactly that point is important to you.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 09:04 PM
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The only legit knock on MD women you mentioned was long work commitment. Attractiveness you would screen by looking at her, so just don't go for the ones that aren't good looking like you wouldn't for any other group of women. Student debt will be paid off within a few years (that's why people go into debt to begin with). After that it's all positive cash flow. But yea most doctors work a ton, but hey that can be positive too since she won't be needing you all the time. Some doctors work 9-5, es…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 06:48 PM
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Be sick. Haha kidding. Volunteer. Be a drug rep. Go to med school. It's kinda tough unless you are there a lot because everyone in medicine is somewhat overworked and stressed during the day and rushing around.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 05:37 PM
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Dude this shit is why people hate academia. I mean I agree that these guys are just hamstering away their own complexes. I went to a top 20 school and am in medicine. A lot of doctors lift, especially surgeons. The twats you were just talking about can talk all day but I don't think I would be convinced that the work they do is more valuable or they are higher class than the guys in the hospital. Actually even by conventional measurements I don't think that's true. I think it's just a symptom of…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 10:03 AM
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Yea. Either that or wait till I have a bit of weight to throw around and can take small hit or two, and even then still be careful. I'm still a med student so I'm on a short leash. The shit some of these doctors openly do though you wouldn't believe, haha. Still kind of hoping for some beautiful insightful article from good looking loser or another similar website on this topic though. Haven't found it myself.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 09:42 AM
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I agree 100%. Came to this conclusion by a very different way though. Nietzsche's writing on aesthetics basically says what you just said. Read it as a 17 year old in high school. Life changing stuff. I still actually think a lot of RP is essentially Nietzsche's genealogy or morality and beyond good and evil interpreted towards men, haha. Read the definition of "übermensch" and "last man" and they sound awfully familiar.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 09:29 AM
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Eh. After reading your comments, this apathy sounds like an ego defense mechanism. Like you gotta be young and foolish before you can be old and wise. Nobody magically jumps from no game beta to "alpha male who wants to settle down with a nice sweet girl" without playing the game first. Look at it this way though. If you approach these girls and get your game really down, when the one you want comes you'll know exactly what to do and you will be more likely to land her. And who knows, along the …
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 09:20 AM
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And on your last point. You know there's more Asian chicks than the one at the jewelry store right? Off the top of my head. Any Asian activity interest group (go,kendo,anime,ping pong Asian arts, etc), boba tea places, WORKING AT PHARMACIES (I have no idea why), hair salons, nail salons. A lot of the nice feminine Asian women that you are saying you are into will be fucking terrified of RP approaches though. Anything that whiffs of "kino escalation ladder" or "sexualized conversation" will send …
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 09:14 AM
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My best week I hooked up with 4 girls in 8 days. That was followed by a couple weeks of not even wanting to talk to a girl. I don't really see what you are saying as a problem? I mean life can't be about girls all the time..
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 09:06 AM
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Hey so I am hoping you can give me an insightful comment or a good article on this topic. How the fuck do you approach women at work? I don't really have approach anxiety anymore and have good body language. There are a lot of attractive women in the field of medicine. Some of them smile at me in a way im pretty sure they don't for just anyone. I'm just very reluctant to risk my professional life for any of them on the chance something could go wrong. I don't know if there is some way to go abou…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 09:02 AM
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I agree status is at least half if not mostly about how you carry yourself. That being said I am going to use jobs as an example because it is easier to think about jobs. So in some countries status and money aren't really tied. In american it is so we americans sometimes have a hard time telling them apart. Think about it this way. A fireman or cop has a lot of status but not necessarily that much money. A professional soccer player has a lot of male social status but not necessarily that much …
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 07:00 AM
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