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When you marry a woman after a long relationship, not having a possessive relationship can damage the marriage and in turn, affect the mental health of children Go back and re-read what I said. It's possessive, but in a finite sense. Both parties make vows to remain faithful, but life happens and sometimes people lie, so sometimes it's best for one party to leave the relationship. Doesn't it make love more interesting when someone does it out of their own free will? Why the fuck would I want to …
/r/ExRedPill13/07/22 05:13 PM
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I still stand by what I commented though. Of course everyone has some sense of relation to you, my point was that this changes due to the finiteness of life. So in short I can't call my mom mine I can't call my dad mine I can't call my brother mine I can't call my girlfriend mine Of course you can. But human relations are always changing. Relationships can sour or become estranged over time, people die, etc. The problem is that RedPill men literally want to own women alot of the time. They miss …
/r/ExRedPill13/07/22 05:05 PM
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My brother in Christ, I commented this 9 months ago.
/r/ExRedPill13/07/22 02:06 PM
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To be honest, men aren't really either. This needed to be said. I broke up with a girl I was dating because I couldn't feel a strong connection. And I really hated myself for it, because she was a super nice person, so I felt like something had to be wrong with me to not like her. But that's just how it goes, you need good connection and chemistry. Plenty of people are nice, but not everyone is for us.
/r/ExRedPill15/04/22 06:05 PM
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While illegal in some areas, it's also entirely legal in others, like the whole of Nevada state. Ok? That doesn't negate the fact that it's illegal in 49 other states in my country. Some states can hand out felony charges for these types of crimes, and repeat offenders can expect to have it stay on their record without expungement, which will screw over their entire life. It is perfectly safe if you're with a professional who knows how to do their job responsibly. Go through a reputable agency o…
/r/ExRedPill08/04/22 09:25 PM
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So the reason you fail to see it is because you haven't interacted with many sex workers or prostitutes (I am assuming, sorry if I'm wrong). Well, I'm talking about prostitutes here, not sex workers as in like OnlyFans. But, surprisingly, yes I have talked to prostitutes before, as I work in a field that has contact. From my experience, many of them are battling addiction and being taken advantage of, and many are developmentally delayed and being taken advantage of. Of course, some are independ…
/r/ExRedPill08/04/22 09:19 PM
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Also, I should note, I'm also a free speech absolutist in that I think governments should never imprison anyone for their ideas. But, on the other hand, we aren't a government, we are a private community that has rules. Much like an AA group has rules against promoting alcohol, we have rules against promoting RP/sexism.
/r/ExRedPill07/04/22 07:34 PM
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I get that, but it makes it harder on us then to deal with this. I can't read every post and every comment, so you guys reporting stuff it vital.
/r/ExRedPill07/04/22 07:30 PM
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No. This isn't a male only space. This is a space for all who are either exredpill, or think the ideology is toxic/causes more harm than good. Women are welcome to contribute and their input is valuable.
/r/ExRedPill07/04/22 07:29 PM
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Genuine question. Why don't y'all that have a big problem with the alleged man-hating "feminists" simply tag these comments so that we can review/remove them? The mod team does remove this stuff, because sexism is breaking one of the sub rules. We get reported comments from men making sexist comments all the time, but very very seldom do I see women doing it.
/r/ExRedPill06/04/22 10:59 PM
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Any "feminists" that say "all men are rapists" will get banned from here. I'm a mod and have banned a couple women for over generalizing men. Provide proof that this is happening. Tag me in it next time.
/r/ExRedPill06/04/22 10:56 PM
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Really? Where? I've been on and off with my activity in this community for over a year, and I've maybe seen a total of 5 people that I'd describe this way.
/r/ExRedPill06/04/22 10:54 PM
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I noticed a trend where white incels tend to think that black men get all the girls effortlessly, and black incels seem to think that white men get all the girls effortlessly. I think it's just another way of putting the responsibility off yourself. "It's not that my personality is bad, it's because I'm the wrong race and it's thus out of my control."
/r/ExRedPill20/02/22 07:17 PM
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A helicopter parent because I wouldn't want my child buying a prostitute? Holy shit people online are weird.
/r/ExRedPill18/02/22 05:58 PM
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Yeah, because most parties I'm at we all just talk about prostitution and human trafficking. Tf is wrong with you?
/r/ExRedPill18/02/22 05:53 PM
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You seem careless. I'm not hurt at all by this, I just want OP to know the potential consequences. Anyway, thanks for insulting me when I was just pointing out potential dangers.
/r/ExRedPill18/02/22 05:51 PM
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How do you know that? I don't know the exact statistic on it, but I do know that many are. Also, you never even addressed the legality aspect. If you want to see examples, just Google "prostitution bust," then your area/location. Also pay attention to the wording, often times police will say it was a "human trafficking bust," making you look even worse. And they will put your picture and name all over headlines.
/r/ExRedPill18/02/22 05:50 PM
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Seriously? You can't think of one reason why it might be a bad idea? First, depending on where OP lives, it may be illegal. And it's not just a slap on the wrist anymore. That will be on your record, and depending on the judge's stance on the issue, he could go to jail. Further, human trafficking and prostitution are often linked. Feel like rolling the dice?
/r/ExRedPill18/02/22 05:39 PM
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It depends on the woman, bro. Some women are LGBTQ+, so they may be satisfied with just having another woman in their life. Or they may be assexual and not long for romance. But, most women are straight, and most do pursue relationships with men. Because I have heard women say men aren’t shit and how happy they are without a man Yeah, some annoying women online say this, but I also see ALOT of guys say the same about women. Just look at Instagram accounts like Hoodville. All they do is post abou…
/r/ExRedPill17/02/22 08:46 PM
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Yessir. We're all gonna be dead in 100 years, love who fulfills you most.
/r/ExRedPill17/02/22 01:17 AM
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I'm curious, what exactly is a relationship without romance? Just fuck buddies? If you're just fuck buddies, then why get into a relationship in the first place then? And if you're not even having sex, then you're just friends. Of course romance is important.
/r/ExRedPill12/02/22 07:22 AM
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I despise RedPill, but let's chill with this type of overgeneralization. First, not all of them have autism. And second, I don't like how you used "autist" like an insult. Let's not go low to their level and overgeneralize them like this.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/22 09:42 PM
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Oh yeah for sure. If I did this on say, a college campus, I'd probably have much different results than say, a random street.
/r/ExRedPill09/02/22 01:04 AM
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Great critiques! I think these were all fair and valid. The book recommends making eye contact with strangers in the street which is actually super weird and creepy. Lol, had to laugh at this one. Not only is it weird, it's also dangerous in neighborhoods where I'm from to make eye contact with strangers you don't know. It could be taken the wrong way.
/r/ExRedPill09/02/22 12:01 AM
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How old are you? Do you have any anxiety disorders? You sound anxious, like me. I've always been anxious, but I grew into generalized anxiety disorder. Each year became progressively worse and worse, and discovering TRP did not help. It fueled my anxiety x100. Anyway, I'd really suggest therapy. Be brutally honest with them.
/r/ExRedPill06/02/22 09:07 PM
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No. That's such an overgeneralization. Maybe they're single because their husband died? Maybe they're single because their partner was was terrible/cheated on them? Maybe they're single by choice and prefer to focus on things like career over relationships. Never make assumptions about people based on relationship status. There are married people that are more of a mess than some single people.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 11:46 PM
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Hey OP, I'm somewhat similar to you. 6'3, 22 years old, I lift about 5 times a week, pretty strong build. But, I'm not a very dominant person. I can be loud and charismatic, but I'm mostly introverted, enjoy deep topics, like to think. I've pretty much accepted I'll never date a girl into "bad boys," but that's okay, because I don't like those types of girls anyway. They're pretty boring usually, and can never hold any type of deep conversation. Even not being "intimidating," I've been in 2 long…
/r/ExRedPill30/01/22 10:55 PM
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I never said "you're an incel." I'm using incels to make a point. Incels are blackpilled, and the blackpill claims they're cursed since birth to be unsuccessful with women due to looks. But most these guys are average and just have abysmal personalities.
/r/ExRedPill27/01/22 03:03 AM
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Every incel in my DMs, and I'm not exaggerating, has been incredibly rude and bitter to me. Even when I try to help them. The most recent one told me to kill myself and said I was Chadsplaining him (which is silly because I'm by no means that attractive).
/r/ExRedPill27/01/22 01:27 AM
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You sound like this far-right friend I had. He was incredibly hypocritical about this stuff. If a woman had a high body count, she was a "degenerate slut" that was just giving herself away. But, if a man had a high body count, he was this "based alpha Chad," for some reason. I think alot of it comes from misogyny, if I'm being brutally honest. It comes from a desire to suppress women/want them under male control. Why else would this happen? You mention skill level needed, but what difference doe…
/r/ExRedPill18/01/22 10:16 PM
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He started displaying signs of the red pill cult, using phrases like alpha, beta buck, simp, chad, etc recently. Would also make derogatory comments about female friends of mine. I asked him straight outright if he was being red pilled and he said he had no idea what I was talking about. You do not necessarily need to be "redpilled" to use these terms and have this mindset, unfortunately. Alot of rightwing groups, particularly "trad" groups use all of these terms constantly. That being said, red…
/r/ExRedPill17/01/22 09:22 PM
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Generally speaking, yeah. Partly because it is the social norm for men to pursue women. That naturally is going to give women more options to pick from.
/r/ExRedPill16/01/22 09:16 PM
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Do you actually talk to women? It blows my mind that so many people on the internet are seemingly so disconnected to real life. If a man has to be "super model attractive," then why are most men able to get relationships??? Are most men super models? Really?
/r/ExRedPill09/01/22 05:46 AM
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Where is Rogan in the picture? I know Rogan isn't the brightest but he's not really redpilled IMO.
/r/ExRedPill06/01/22 09:19 AM
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I don't think you understand hypotheticals. I'm saying that someone who doesn't get out much has statistically lower odds of finding a potential partner than someone that does. You're taking everything I'm saying as if it has to literally apply to your life, and it's honestly annoying.
/r/ExRedPill04/01/22 12:02 AM
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When I become friends with someone, I don't look at their social life and say "i wonder if they have enough friends to be worthy of me." I'm friends with them if our personalities mesh well.
/r/ExRedPill03/01/22 11:55 PM
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That's not what we mean. It's an odds game. If you sit at home and don't get out of the house, odds are you're not going to meet a variety of people and potential lovers. Whereas, if you pursue hobbies you enjoy and make friends, you'll begin to expand your social circle and potentially find a partner. Maybe one of your friends will say "you know, there's this girl that would match you well, let me set it up."
/r/ExRedPill03/01/22 11:54 PM
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Are you sure it has nothing to do with your personality? We're all just here trying to help and you're already being pretty rude. Why post on here if you're going to deny everyone's advice and type in all caps?
/r/ExRedPill03/01/22 11:29 PM
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That wasn't a requirement. I'm just telling you my age at the time. How old are you?
/r/ExRedPill03/01/22 11:24 PM
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You are saying no cold approaches are acceptable. We are saying context matters. Some are fine.
/r/ExRedPill03/01/22 11:17 PM
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Dude, you could do anything. I used to be lonely and not have a big circle, but in early highschool I got involved with lifeguarding. I loved it and loved the friends I made at this pool, and quickly ranked up to a LifeGuard Instructor, and then a manager. I met my first girlfriend doing this too.
/r/ExRedPill03/01/22 11:16 PM
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Holy shit, I think this is the best advice I've read in a while. So much online relationship advice is totally out of touch and not at all what I've experienced in my life. The best way to meet people is to simply do stuff. Get involved with stuff, anything that interests you. When you put yourself out there, you're exposed to so many new people, and some of those new people will be potential lovers.
/r/ExRedPill03/01/22 11:14 PM
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It's obviously not that common, because I know couples where the man approached the woman cold. From most girls that I've talked to, they just don't like being approached in places like the gym or at work, where they're busy and not looking to get constantly bothered.
/r/ExRedPill03/01/22 11:11 PM
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Because you're supposed to be a team. Not sex worker and John. Very well said! It's hard core projection. They want their women to essentially be sex workers, so they assume that's how it is in all relationships.
/r/ExRedPill03/01/22 09:16 AM
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I never said I form my relationships on it. It's not something that I would fix to gain a relationship though, it's something that I would fix for myself. then I would say your way doesnt work. What "way" are you talking about lmao? I just said that I have anxiety and I've had success with women. I don't want to be anxious, and I try to find ways to get better, but it hasn't been a hindrance on my love life, it's moreso a hindrance on my alone time. Eventually the girl will get tired of your anx…
/r/ExRedPill03/01/22 08:55 AM
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Sex isn't even the main reason most people get into a relationship lmao. You can have plenty of sex while single. Who can honestly read this tweet and go, "oh yeah, this makes sense"??
/r/ExRedPill03/01/22 07:14 AM
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Kind of. Shrooms especially helped me get here, but also many other psychedelics. They helped me become more open, for sure.
/r/ExRedPill03/01/22 03:00 AM
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Anyone has the capability of doing harm/wrong to others. No one is a good person.
/r/ExRedPill03/01/22 02:23 AM
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I don't know, I have pretty bad anxiety yet I've always done fine with women. I'm pretty honest and open about my anxiety too, and it never hurts the relationship.
/r/ExRedPill03/01/22 02:22 AM
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Lmao underrated comment.
/r/ExRedPill31/12/21 11:49 PM
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You cant really say "with women," because different women prefer different things. I think that most people probably like attention somewhere in the middle, both men and women. You don't want a partner texting you every hour about how they love you and can't live without you, yet you also don't want one who ignores you for a week and seems to never care about you. There's a balance. Some prefer more of the clingy end, some prefer more of the distant end, but I think most of us fall somewhere in …
/r/ExRedPill08/12/21 02:08 PM
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Hey OP, "simp" means almost nothing anymore. It originally was an acronym that meant "sucker idolozing mediocre pussy," and referred to like guys who worshiped and paid girls online, but now certain RP and misogynists online use it for any man who's kind to women lol. It sounds like you have trouble with that awkward phase where you're not sure if the girl likes you back. Asking for a date is always a great way to see. If she says no, it might be a little awkward, but at least you know for sure.…
/r/ExRedPill04/12/21 10:46 PM
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Yeah I agree. How we say things is very important. If I went on a date with a girl and she said, "you're going to be a gentleman and pay for me, right?" that would be a major turn off. But if it was more like "hey should I bring money or will you cover it?" then that wouldn't bother me.
/r/ExRedPill04/12/21 04:26 PM
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Is it ok to not pay? I think so. Is it normal? Depends on the area you're from and the social norms around you. In more conservative areas, it's definitely expected that men pay. I'm from a more liberal area though, and most women around here do not expect me to pay for first dates. I still offer, but I've actually been declined a couple times. As others have said though, texting her this is probably what caused the reaction. Not the fact that you didn't want to pay, but rather the way which you…
/r/ExRedPill04/12/21 04:23 PM
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When did I ever suggest doing nothing? I simply said to let texting flirtatiously occur naturally. I think setting like a timer for 30min seems silly. And it's never personally helped me. If you feel like you need to do it, then go for it. But you came on here asking for advice, so I'm giving it to you.
/r/ExRedPill03/12/21 08:37 PM
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With that attitude you won't have much luck. Why are you born to die a virgin?
/r/ExRedPill03/12/21 07:37 PM
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I don't like putting a number to it. Whenever I try to do stuff like that, it never works. IMO it has to come naturally. I mean, if you have a job or go to school, you should naturally only have a couple hours a day where you can text anyway.
/r/ExRedPill03/12/21 07:27 PM
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No lol. I tried that "texting only for logistics" thing. From my experience that advice is given by PUAs that are out of touch boomers. Texting is a fantastic tool to get to know potential partners. We are a very online generation, so we use that to communicate. It should, of course, eventually lead to in person dates. But it doesn't only have to be for that. Some girls may find you "mysterious" for doing that. Others may just find you dull/boring for being so unresponsive.
/r/ExRedPill03/12/21 07:01 PM
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If you create a group, I'd love to help.
/r/ExRedPill22/11/21 12:46 AM
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Not while in it, because I kept it a secret from pretty much everyone I knew. Now that I'm out of it, not really. Very seldom do RedPill men ask me why I left in an honest way. Typically they'll just call me a beta cuck and then block me.
/r/ExRedPill22/11/21 12:42 AM
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So you pick a study with a very small sample size (19), then proceed to misquote it in your post. Furthermore, I can only read the abstract of that study, which isn't alot. What exactly are we supposed to draw from this?
/r/ExRedPill12/11/21 04:17 PM
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Women fight for equality but many still want to be inferior to their male partners. I think you misunderstand feminism. Someone could want to be submissive in the bedroom yet still want equal pay, equal job opportunities, basic respect, and be free from non-consensual abuse. It seems like the feminist movement runs counterintuitive to what the majority of men / women desire in relationships. Right? Isn’t this hypocritical? Not really. All the feminists that I talk to are rather libertarian when …
/r/ExRedPill05/11/21 12:51 AM
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Wait why do you think women don't want incels to have sex? Just because a woman doesn't personally want to sleep with a guy she finds unattractive doesn't mean she wants that guy to die a virgin. That's absurd. If I reject a girl who's into me, why would I then be like "haha yeah and I hope she never finds love >:-)"
/r/ExRedPill01/11/21 11:13 PM
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Well said. This is an issue that I also see with alot of redpill tactics - they're incredibly short sighted. Act like a badboy and fake confidence? Sure, you'll probably get a couple dates. But, what happens when the girl wants more dates, and the mask starts to come off. We can't put up an act forever, it will come off, and then you'll have wasted their time. We need to build ourselves in such a way where it's no longer a mask, and we naturally just attract good people and relationships.
/r/ExRedPill30/10/21 01:18 AM
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Yeah, don't feel bad for him. Just banned him and he messaged me "kill yourself and your big lips," dude was an unstable troll.
/r/ExRedPill26/10/21 04:21 AM
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Youre obviously not going to behave.
/r/ExRedPill26/10/21 04:02 AM
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Ok.
/r/ExRedPill26/10/21 03:59 AM
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You need to chill or I'm banning you. This isn't pertinent to the post at all.
/r/ExRedPill26/10/21 03:48 AM
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Big lips are sometimes seen as attractive. I have lips a little larger than most and all my gfs have said it makes my kisses good. How are you with facial hair? Some guys that are really self conscious about their jaws can grow such a good beard where you wouldn't even see it.
/r/ExRedPill26/10/21 01:15 AM
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I don't know about that. Is your face like terrible asymmetrical or something?
/r/ExRedPill26/10/21 01:08 AM
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Yeah but facial attractiveness is probably one of the more subjective qualities. Besides symmetry, alot of it is simply up to taste. Some women love facial hair, some love a clean shaven man. Some women like a "pretty boy face" like Justin Beber, some women like a more rough face like action heroes/villains.
/r/ExRedPill26/10/21 01:04 AM
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I know you don't care about height. Your big thing is your face. I'm using that story to show you that there are men who have an identical feeling of being "fucked for life," due to something as silly as being average height. Hell, there are "wristcels" who think having a slightly skinny wrist makes them celibate The only cases where I can genuinely see someone being an "involuntary celibate" is that of those who are extremely physically deformed or mentally impaired.
/r/ExRedPill26/10/21 12:58 AM
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See, this is what I mean. Most incels I've talked to are just generally unpleasant. I've talked to people who have gone through really terrible things in life, and they don't have the perspective that you do, all because you view yourself as ugly. You're probably attractive and lying to me. You sound like this incel who was in my DM the other month. He was decent looking, even better than alot of my friends that have success with dating. He thought that he was doomed to inceldom because he was 5…
/r/ExRedPill26/10/21 12:53 AM
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Ok? I'm not the most attractive person ever. But why would I let that ruin my life? I'm in a good relationship now and it's enough for me.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/21 05:27 PM
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I used to think like you too. But turns out I was severely depressed and my self-hatred was not only untrue, it bordered on delusion. Attractive people tend to have it easier, sure. But there are plenty of ugly people that do just fine, and even then, I've seen so many decent looking incels that self-diagnosed themselves as being "terminally ugly" when that itself was delusional.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/21 05:20 PM
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Every "incel" that comes on here from my experience has some serious personality flaws. It seems like using "I'm ugly" can be a scapegoat for "I'm just not very stable or good good people." How do you expect a girl to like you if you constantly put yourself down for your looks? Would you be attracted to someone who constantly degrades themselves?
/r/ExRedPill25/10/21 05:13 PM
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Does it feel good to degrade yourself like that? It's not really funny.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/21 05:00 PM
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Generally just flirting isn't seen as creepy. It becomes creepy when you can't take "no" for an answer or flirt in situations where it's totally inappropriate to do so.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/21 04:31 PM
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Generally just flirting isn't seen as creepy. It becomes creepy when you can't take "no" for an answer or flirt in situations where it's totally inappropriate to do so.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/21 04:31 PM
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Bro I am literally friends with some extremely dull men and they've all had relationships. You're setting yourself up to fail by having the mentality that it's impossible.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 01:35 PM
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There are dull, boring women out there too. I don't think that you need to be charismatic to have a relationship. If that were the case, we'd see alot more singl people.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 01:26 PM
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Why would the age that you lost your virginity matter? And no, not until we actually started dating and were in a relationship. Again, I've never been on a date with a girl and had her ask me my body count.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 07:34 PM
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I have never dated a girl that was dying to know my body count. Typically all they care about is if I've been sexually active, do I wear a condom, and if not, have I been tested for stds? And as a man you should be asking the same thing.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 06:47 PM
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There is, it's just called therapy. Therapists deal with lonely people all the time, in fact I'd say it's probably one of the most common issues that young people deal with. With regards to the "graduating high school still virgins," I don't think this is as rare as you're framing it. The average age for American men to lose their virginity is about 17, which means an older junior/younger senior. And that's just the average, which means a significant portion lose it after high school.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 04:51 PM
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Starting off as kind as possible is probably the best way. You have to meet their energy. If they're polite, I'd say rejection should always be very polite. But if they're being incredibly annoying about it, I'd say it's more than fair to be rude.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 03:30 PM
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I don't think they're praising social anxiety. I think the idea of the "sigma male archetype" is a man who can be socially dominant but chooses not to be. The whole alpha, beta, sigma, and omega archetypes are silly anyway. Human behavior is far more complicated than that.
/r/ExRedPill18/10/21 11:46 PM
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"Game" is typically bullshit anyway, so no, don't give up. The notion that you can have pretty much any woman by playing your cards right is bogus. Don't be needy/too clingy, but also clearly show you're interested in her and want more than friendship. If a girl likes you back, she will say yes to your date. It's that simple. Even if your "game" tricks a woman into believing that you're someone you're not, why would you want that? The mask comes off eventually.
/r/ExRedPill18/10/21 11:44 PM
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If you know you know ;)
/r/ExRedPill14/10/21 07:27 AM
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That's not the implication that I've personally seen when it's used. Generally it tends to be used by RedPill, BlackPill, and Incel communities as a way of saying that women will inevitably cheat on you. It's often used in conjunction with the phrase "riding the cock carousel" too.
/r/ExRedPill13/10/21 09:55 PM
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I've seen this exact argument from the other side though. I had a guy in my DMs telling me that, even though his face is decent, he's doomed for inceldom since he was only 5'7. It's all a matter of your own perspective. You're damning yourself. Also the circumcision thing is overblown. I'm circumcised and sex feels phenomenal. The main thing that takes away sensation from sex is condoms.
/r/ExRedPill13/10/21 09:08 PM
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This phrase is ridiculous to me. No one is "yours," as everyone in your life can exit. Your parents could die. Your friends could move away and lose contact. That's life. Just enjoy the time you have with people and stop trying to possess them is my advice. You're in for a world of pain and suffering if you live your life thinking that people are "yours".
/r/ExRedPill13/10/21 09:03 PM
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Completely agree. There are some people that just so much better in person. There's also some people who just have such an attractive energy to them that you would never be able to see on an app. I've never used them and don't plan on it.
/r/ExRedPill12/10/21 11:01 PM
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Using studies to convince yourself that women aren't promiscuous, hypergamous or whatever other quality that RP attributes to them can shed a different light on female behavior in a superficial way, but it won't solve the fear in any meaningful way. In fact, it can make it worse by triggering the "women are wonderful" effect as a defense mechanism, when you try to convince yourself how great and innocent women are just to be pushed down the same hateful path when a woman you like fails to live u…
/r/ExRedPill11/10/21 10:00 PM
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I feel like we get a comment like this every few weeks. There are some valuable ideas in the red pill though, making yourself your own mental point of origin, not allowing women to walk walk over you or demand everything from you just for being born female. The red pill gave me a lot of personal skills like self care and self respect. Just because TRP taught you some valuable lessons doesn't mean that, on the whole, it's a good ideology. You could learn the valuable ideas that you just listed th…
/r/ExRedPill09/10/21 08:40 PM
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No. It was just in the talking phase and they would randomly ghost her/ignore her. I mean I'd say probably average, but obviously everyone has different views on that.
/r/ExRedPill04/10/21 10:34 PM
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Wow, you said almost the exact same thing that I did, and I didn't even read your comment beforehand lol. But this is true. Men are much more likely to put up with the stereotypical rude/bitchy girl if she's a 10/10, and women more likely to put up with an asshole jerk if he's a 10/10.
/r/ExRedPill04/10/21 10:28 PM
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When most of my friends were men, I thought for sure men had it way more rough. But the more friends I made that were women, the more I realized both sides have a hard time. My one friend has been looking for a guy for a while. Every guy she's found either wanted her for sex, or ghosted her after a few days. If you're an extremely attractive man or woman, you're just going to have more options. It's really that simple. A 10/10 man or woman is going to have unbelievably more options and more peop…
/r/ExRedPill04/10/21 10:24 PM
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Yeah, virgin shaming is real for young men. I felt like in high-school there was a race to see who could lose it the fastest. I'm not sure if that still takes place, but it's how it was back when I was younger.
/r/ExRedPill03/10/21 04:03 PM
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Women generally don't date friends though, because they view them as just that - a friend. From my personal experience you can't really friendship your way into a relationship. I'm sure some people have, but it doesn't seem very common.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/21 09:24 PM
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I thought TRP taught that orbiters never really have a chance tho? I also thought orbiters were generally considered creepy, or, if not creepy, just a friend zoned guy.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/21 09:10 PM
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I don't think the answer is "yes" or "no" because it varies by experience. That's like asking "do all women get catcalled?" The answers will vary depending on experience. As a man, my current girlfriend has some guys that I would describe as "orbiters" and she's quite repulsed by it. This one guy literally DMed her on snap asking if we broke up so that she could "come over with that ass."
/r/ExRedPill02/10/21 05:09 PM
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I think it depends on the woman. From my experience, some do. By "orbiter" though, I mean creepy guys that flirtatiously DM them asking if they're single and begging for sex. It's not anything to really be concerned about, like I said they're very creepy and most seem to be repulsed by it.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/21 05:06 PM
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I've never read the book, but it sounds like it's helping you. And if it helps you, then hey, good for you.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/21 04:51 AM
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I'm not even sure what "simp" means anymore. It used to be an acronym for "sucker idolizing mediocre p*ssy," basically guys that would like orbit onlyfans and premium snap girls, hoping to get their attention. Recently it seems to mean any guy that is friends with women or nice to women lmao. "You took your girl out on a romantic date and got her flowers? Simp!"
/r/ExRedPill01/10/21 11:10 PM
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I removed your post. Do not make posts advertising your DMs. This subreddit isn't for that, thanks.
/r/ExRedPill30/09/21 11:19 PM
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I'm not sure why I'm giving a detailed response to this considering you opened the conversation completely misrepresenting me, but I'll bite. I was never "victimized" by YouTube. YouTube is merely an algorithm. You get out of it what you put into it. If you watch cat videos everytime, all you're going to get recommended is cat videos. When I discovered Corey Wayne, I was still pretty much a kid. I wasn't very good at fact-checking my sources, determining what's reliable, etc. After watching alot…
/r/ExRedPill29/09/21 11:41 PM
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When did I ever say I was a victim? You put it in quotations as if you were directly quoting me and then just made shit up.
/r/ExRedPill29/09/21 11:06 PM
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Usually if someone is hot and cold with you, they're simply not that interested in you. Perhaps you're just an option to text when bored. I've never had a meaningful committed relationship with girls that do that sort of thing. Cut it off before you get too attached IMO. However, I must add a word of caution, don't overthink it. Your words are "she seems a little distant," are you sure this means she's going cold? Maybe she had a bad day. Maybe she's just busy lately. Obviously if it continues, …
/r/ExRedPill28/09/21 10:04 PM
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It seems blackpill type stuff sells these days to a certain audience. When I was rightwing I was into Paul Joseph Watson. His videos slowly became less of actual topics, and more of him just being a complete doomer whining about everything, people eat it up though.
/r/ExRedPill28/09/21 02:33 AM
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Never heard of him. Probably a good reason to stop watching him though. Anyone can make a YouTube and give uninformed opinions on topics and sound really smart doing so, it's always best to check their sources.
/r/ExRedPill28/09/21 02:27 AM
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Yeah I agree. Looks are subjective to the individual, but if we ask all men and women what they find attractive, and go with the majority, then true there are features that would attract a majority. I think smaller things like hairstyle, facial hair, etc are things that are more open to subjective opinion.
/r/ExRedPill24/09/21 10:27 PM
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What we call a "chad" is also so subjective. I had incels tell me I'm chadsplaining them because I'm 6'3, but I've never viewed myself as a chad. I think my looks are quite average.
/r/ExRedPill24/09/21 10:05 PM
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It's an interesting explanation. I'm not sure that all the RP men that promote AF/BB are used to settling for women though, like you mentioned. Sometimes AF/BB just seems to be a cope for why they're not successful sexually or romantically. Like, "It's not that there's anything wrong with me, it's just that these women have ridiculous standards and only go for the top men!" This sort of ties into 80/20 too. The idea that the top 80% of women are only shooting for the top 20% of men is silly for …
/r/ExRedPill24/09/21 07:26 PM
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Also, I'm not against changing myself. I re-read this, and I'll apologize for saying you're a miserable person. I said that because I thought you were speaking to me with the "you all" comment, but English isn't your first language, so that comment by me isn't justified. I'll also apologize for the nazi comment, looking back at that, it's pretty inflammatory and does nothing but escalate the already tense conversations. I'll own those mistakes here, I'm sorry.
/r/ExRedPill23/09/21 01:28 AM
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Your choice, I still saw more good comments from you than bad, so I won't drop the hammer. Feel free to come back, you know, just don't assume all men are dimwits when it comes to sex next time haha.
/r/ExRedPill23/09/21 01:08 AM
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What exactly are you trying to achieve here? I wasn't misrepresenting OP. I responded with sarcasm to what he said and I think it was clear to absolutely everybody who responded to me that I was not paraphrasing OP but responding to him. All other commenters clearly knew it was my idea and not me twisting OP words. Let's take it back to the beginning. You seem to be forgetting your own words. You said, and I quote, "here we are a sub where people...get absolutely triggered the moment you mention…
/r/ExRedPill23/09/21 01:01 AM
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I wasn't disrespectful to you though. Yes, with those two guys I chose snark and condescension and they 'dished' back. I choose not to escalate. Not to me lol, but that was your whole vibe. So I went to match that level. You were being brutal to that guy for no reason. It turned out he has a girlfriend and does fine with her, so again, you were being rude for no reason. The thing with Nazis is that they are actually very clear about their 'Nazi' ambitions. No they're not. Not the modern ones, an…
/r/ExRedPill23/09/21 12:03 AM
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I never asserted you're a nazi, I'm saying, I debate them all the time on here and other platforms, and the way they argue is always similar in that they never use clear language. It's like what Jordan Peterson does (he's not really a nazi, but he inspires them). He always talks in ways where he uses language that can be interpreted in several ways, so if you attack the most plain interpretation, he'll turn around and say "that's not what I meant by that at all." You used pretty plain language "…
/r/ExRedPill22/09/21 11:12 PM
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And he did what almost every OP does here and started with 'but what if it's real.' He just goes on to repeat what you said for clarification. I know, it's not very logical, but it's an "irrational" fear of their's. As someone with severe anxiety about certain issues, one thing i always used to do was ask people around me for confirmation/clarification. It's an anxiolytic thing for people usually. People don't deserve to be berated for it. And that honestly makes me question, why are you on this…
/r/ExRedPill22/09/21 07:19 PM
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There's some misogynistic posts and comments but we ban them. You can help by reporting any that you see. This user is lying.
/r/ExRedPill22/09/21 04:41 PM
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But maybe it is not advice but sarcasm? So OP comes for help with their irrational fear and you use sarcasm. How exactly is this an effective method of helping someone overcome an irrational fear? I'm clearly also not the only one who misinterpreted your "sarcasm" so maybe try a little harder next time. And yes my responses are shitty because here we are, in the 21st century, on a sub where people are supposed to 'detox' from their misogyny 'brainwashing' and get absolutely triggered the moment …
/r/ExRedPill22/09/21 04:30 PM
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No, she knows more about your sex life than you do, obviously. Lmao.
/r/ExRedPill22/09/21 03:48 PM
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Also, if you so insisting on believing it, is it really so 'heinous' to get a good dicking? Just step up your game and no woman of yours will need to look for it elsewhere. It's this simple. This is really terrible advice. First off, someone can be great at sex and still get cheated on. Your comment implies that cheating is solely for sexual satisfaction, when there's alot more that goes into it. Someone could cheat for emotional reasons, validation, low self esteem, etc. Maybe they're just not …
/r/ExRedPill22/09/21 03:46 PM
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The fact he's also praising a mass shooter is really dangerous. It's worrisome.
/r/ExRedPill21/09/21 01:43 AM
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Yeah that's why I'm saying I'd rather contact a real human about it. So that they can actually notify local police.
/r/ExRedPill21/09/21 12:57 AM
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I know, is there any way we can actually contact a real person at youtube? The problem with reporting videos is its simply an algorithm that decides what to do.
/r/ExRedPill20/09/21 09:08 PM
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Wow, I just watched a few of his videos. This guy needs some serious help. His content isn't even worthy of a rational response, it just comes off as someone with serious mental health issues screaming into the void. Are there any programs/organizations meant to deter troubled people from this sort of behavior?
/r/ExRedPill20/09/21 09:04 PM
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Look, I get that you're a Corey Wayne apologist, and that no matter what I say you're going to defend him. And, I've watched probably over 50 hours of his YouTube content back in 2019, so no matter what you tell me, my opinion isn't going to change either. I read your comment, and this is going to be absolutely exhausting if I respond to everything you wrote. First, you never admit to strawmanning some of my arguments, instead, you just turn around and start saying I'm using strawman arguments, …
/r/ExRedPill19/09/21 04:18 PM
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Well first of all his book is available for free on his website in PDF which he makes clear, and his videos are free, so the sales argument is bull. Giving out a free sample of material doesn't mean much, that's actually a pretty good sales technique. Giving a sample allows people to see what you're about, which then attracts them to buy your other books for sale, purchase your coaching services, and give views to your YouTube channel (which is alot of income). Why would it be bull? I'm sure the…
/r/ExRedPill19/09/21 05:19 AM
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Well thats good, but that doesn't change the fact that Corey teaches things pretty similar to TRP. I'm not entirely sure he said that out of the goodness of his heart, or if he said that because he sees the other coaches as competition for views and sales. What about Corey is different from the redpill?
/r/ExRedPill18/09/21 04:24 PM
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Yeah I agree, it's certainly a spectrum it seems. There are women more logical and analytical than me as a man, and there are men more emotional than me.
/r/ExRedPill18/09/21 01:26 AM
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Are you saying that all women are annoying and bitchy?
/r/ExRedPill17/09/21 10:55 PM
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I'll admit it's not directly Corey's fault, but you can see how one ideology sort of leads to the other, right? If Corey says, "Women dont think rationally like men," then you see Rollo say the same thing but even more misogynistic, isn't there a connection? The 10-15 times thing is honestly a meme for people that have watched him. Repetition does increase memory, but it seems excessive. Most people barely have time to read a book once, let alone 15 times. Unless you're like studying for an exam…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/21 08:19 PM
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I wholeheartedly disagree. Corey Wayne got me into the RedPill rabbit hole and eventually I found other guys like Rollo Tomassi from him. Some of his advice is good, yeah. But then you have the bs. For example, he presents his advice as infallible. Here's how it goes: "Did they advice work? Yes? See, this is the truth. No? Well, did you read my book 10-15 times? No? Go read it 10-15 times. You did, and it still didn't work? Ah, she's just not a high value woman." See? There's basically no situat…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/21 07:32 PM
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That's good advice, yes. But it also encourages alot of RP "game" like "you should only text about one message for every 3 of hers." Also, it was written by Corey Wayne. It doesn't take alot of digging through his YouTube channel to find some RP ideas. In one video he said that women are like little children and are incapable of thinking rationally like men.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/21 07:25 PM
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You wouldn't want women judging all of men based of TRP, right? So it's probably not a good idea to judge women off shitty subs like FDS.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/21 06:36 PM
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3% Man is still pretty RedPilled IMO, I wouldn't personally recommend it. It has alot of "game" and the typical RP tactics. If you want emotional centeredness, maybe try some books on Stoicism?
/r/ExRedPill17/09/21 02:29 PM
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The fact that you're admitting you had a problem and feeling guilt is the first step. You're already on your way to getting better. You also made a good choice unsubscribing from all RedPill stuff, there's no reason to look at that garbage anymore. Some advice: Realize that human behavior and dating aren't as black and white as the RedPill had you believe. People who disagree with "game" aren't "betas," and alot of them probably date just fine and have successful relationships. If you need tips …
/r/ExRedPill16/09/21 10:46 PM
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Yep, that's precisely my critique too. Their channels are like out of context headlines to fearmonger men into distrusting women. Like, "the women don't want equality! They got that in the 1960s; they want supremacy!!"
/r/ExRedPill16/09/21 05:19 PM
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I agree. I think typically most MGTOW guys believe in alot of TRP's ideology. However, not all of them do. Alot of MGTOWs are men who had bad experiences with divorce and the court system so now they pledge to stay single and build their own life up. But on the whole MGTOW is pretty toxic like redpill. It's commonly pointed out that for a group of men focused on "bettering themselves," they sure do spend most their time whining about women lol. And "manosphere" is kind of the bubble that they al…
/r/ExRedPill16/09/21 04:44 PM
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I know. They would troll as misandrists. My point was tho, if someone trolled this sub by hating women, we would ban it.
/r/ExRedPill16/09/21 01:36 AM
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Yet the mods never jump on them? And they always have positive karma? If someone on here started trolling and commenting misogynistic bs our mods would be on that.
/r/ExRedPill16/09/21 01:33 AM
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It's definitely allowed, thanks for starting a relevant conversation! I'll give you some, but first, a little warning, TRP doesn't have like a catechism that defines their beliefs. It's sort of a mix, but I'll give the beliefs that the most prominent figures (like Rollo Tomassi) state: Women engage in a dual-mating strategy. This is to say, they want to have sex with "alphas" for good offspring, yet they also want a man with a stable income and support (a beta). Most women are incapable of pulli…
/r/ExRedPill16/09/21 01:30 AM
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You could say that about any community thag engages in toxic behavior. Hell, you could say that about TRP. One post with over 600 likes said not to get into relationships with men in school because they won't amount to shit. That's a troll too?
/r/ExRedPill16/09/21 01:15 AM
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Are you lying or have you seriously never dug deep into the FDS sub? That is not all they do.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/21 10:56 PM
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Unfortunately we have alot of women on this very sub that seem to be doing that. They're either lying, or they're really good at deceiving themselves, because just going on their page right now one of the top posts is says, and I'm not joking, "don't date men in school because they won't become shit!" And there's also women in the comments attacking men for "having higher addiction rates despite being coddled."
/r/ExRedPill15/09/21 09:59 PM
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You're making the same rebuttal that every RedPiller that comes on here makes: "what's so wrong with just bettering ourselves? The redpill taught me how to place value on myself, take care of myself, and now I'm much healthier." No one is saying there's no good to FDS. But any honest scroll through their page will display blatant misandry and an echo-chamber of only sharing examples of men being shitty.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/21 08:34 PM
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Oh man, where to begin. I'll just list all the issues that I've seen with it when I used to visit their out of curiosity: The good: Like TRP it can promote decent screening techniques for dating. Knowing how to spot red flags is always really important, it can save you from potential abuse or ending up with a narcissist. The bad: It's an echo-chamber that promotes blatant misandry. None of the members ever combat this misandry either, it always goes unchecked. It's also filled with horror storie…
/r/ExRedPill15/09/21 08:28 PM
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Yeah I guess it's really just anecdote vs anecdote until someone comes out with a massive poll or study. Perhaps one way would be to poll a large amount of men and women from all walks of life and ask about feelings toward men crying/displaying emotion. And yeah, I agree, it is overlooked that women also perpetuate it. I mean just from my life alone I've already seen women actively perpetuating it, so I think it needs to be addressed from all sides.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/21 03:49 PM
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I'm not saying that most men perpetuate toxic masculinity. I'm saying that most of this tends to come from men, which is different from saying "most men do it." That being said, I think women and men do it for different reasons. Women that do it tend to do it because, for whatever reason, they don't find emotional men attractive. Men tend to do it due to things like homophobia. Sometimes maybe they're insecure about themselves so they project onto others.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/21 02:49 AM
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Yeah, the Institute for Family Studies did some polls, you can check that out.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/21 02:04 AM
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Yeah, some women perpetuate toxic masculinity. I've known some guys that got dumped for crying or breaking down in front of their girls. I've even heard some girls talk about how much of a turnoff it is for a man to cry, one saying that her ex was "such a pussy" for crying. That being said, that's not all women. And it's probably not most. I've cried in front of girls I've dated in serious relationships and it didn't ruin things at all. Even if it did, I wouldn't have cared, I'm a human being lo…
/r/ExRedPill15/09/21 12:28 AM
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The highest figures I've seen show about 1/3 of people will admit to cheating. That's the highest, though. Typically I think it's about 20% of men and 13% of women. Sometimes it's inevitable, but there are things you can do to prevent it. Some obvious things are their history: did they cheat before? Past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior. Also, if they were in a relationship when you started flirting, that's a bright red flag.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/21 09:45 PM
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That's what I've said before too. It's weird how the AltRight hates Islamic extremism like the Taliban. They stand for almost the exact same ideas: theocratic authoritarianism, oppression of women, anti-intelluctualism, embracement of tradition, etc.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/21 10:35 PM
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Yeah, I always say this: not all RedPill men are altright, but all altright men are RedPilled. This has held true in my life every single time. I have yet to meet an altright guy who isn't RedPilled. I luckily never went as deep as Nick Fuentes or BlackPigeonSpeaks, but I had a very similar experience. I started off with the "facts don't cate about your feelings" crowd. Ben Shapiro, Steven Crowder, some Jordan Peterson. Then I got into Paul Joseph Watson and a little Stefan Molyneux. I went from…
/r/ExRedPill13/09/21 10:21 PM
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Yeah I definitely think people can be ethically and happily non-monogamous, but that isn't for me personally. I don't really enjoy sex with people I don't love.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/21 03:56 PM
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I found something pretty interesting. One feminist known as "big red" who has appeared in pretty much every "feminist sjw owned" compilation, was actually clipped terribly out of context. In the actual context of the video, she's arguing that courts should stop siding with women so much during divorces and be more egalitarian. She's literally arguing for men and men's rights yet the right still ruthlessly attacked her for "being a crazy sjw"
/r/ExRedPill10/09/21 03:18 PM
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No. Sex with a significant other is a great way to connect and build intimacy. If anything I think I'd push a button to where I only feel sexual attraction to whoever I'm dating at the time. It'd make things simpler.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/21 03:15 PM
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BlackPigeonSpeaks is an altright/Redpill YouTuber, pretty well known in those communities.
/r/ExRedPill09/09/21 08:34 PM
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Three Arrows (his other channel is Kraut) and Shaun made some great videos debunking him. He's quite dramatic, everything is a catastrophe to him and he'll say things confidently that just aren't true.
/r/ExRedPill09/09/21 08:33 PM
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It certainly is a plus, but it's not everything. I think sometimes alot of guys think that if they just gain musculature, women will all be waiting at the door. I love lifting, mainly for my own health and blowing off steam; I don't expect it to really help my romantic life that much. I also think it should be even. If you're a girl and you expect a man who's ripped, then you should do your part to stay in shape too. And if you're a guy who expects his women to be slim thick, you should also be …
/r/ExRedPill09/09/21 06:50 PM
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I second this. I always cringe when people say things like that. "Wow that person is so crazy they're a psycho," psychosis is an entirely different thing and shouldn't be used like that, they're usually very friendly people afflicted by something that causes immeasurable suffering.
/r/ExRedPill09/09/21 04:57 PM
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I would agree, but not because of the reason you listed. I'd agree because most women expect to be pursued/expect men to ask for the first date. I don't think you necessarily need to be "socially dominant" to be successful in dating. At least, I never did. I just needed to coach myself on building enough confidence to ask for that first date. That being said, I dont think "introverted" and "shy" are synonymous. I'm introverted, but not really socially shy. My introvertedness just means I don't m…
/r/ExRedPill08/09/21 07:07 PM
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I don't think so. However, you probably would want to find a girl who isn't the type to make you so hard on yourself for being an introvert. I'm an introvert and I've dated both introverts and extroverts. While I like how extroverts can sometimes pull me out of my shell and get me to do more social things, I also got the feeling (which was later confirmed) that my way of life was boring to them. My current girlfriend is more introverted like me and it seems to work better.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/21 11:32 PM
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I gotcha, no, I mean transactional in the very basic sense of you give something and expect something back typically. Like, you wouldn't want a girlfriend who never spends time with your family when you spend hours upon hours with her family, you know? There's a give and take.
/r/ExRedPill05/09/21 08:41 PM
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You're taking an extraordinary leap here, that's not what I meant at all. Transactional can mean alot of things. You give your love and affection, and in turn you expect your partners love and affection. You give respect, and you expect respect in return. You're turning my very simple statement into like this doomer blackpill thing.
/r/ExRedPill05/09/21 11:21 AM
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Ask why it's bad for society. What would make women less capable of voting? The only plausible answer from them is: "intelligence." Then demand sources for women being less intelligent (they're not).
/r/ExRedPill05/09/21 08:04 AM
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Yeah the more these terms get used the less meaning they seem to have. I think the most straightforward definition is a person who wants to be sexually active but for whatever reason has problems achieving this.
/r/ExRedPill05/09/21 08:01 AM
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I don't like this quote. All human love is typically conditional. Sure, you can love people with like the spiritual sense of "we're all mankind," but all relationships are conditional and transactional. If your wife burns your house down and laughs about it, would you still love her? If your parents continuously harass you and refuse to ever apologize, would you still love them? Probably not. Hell, even redpill men talk about loving women provided that they submit and play the traditional role.
/r/ExRedPill05/09/21 07:54 AM
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I'm not sure about that, I'm the opposite, white guy with a black girlfriend. And no, it's not because I fetishize that race, I just live in an area where I'm exposed to a diverse group of people, so the odds were that I'd eventually probably date someone of another race. I did read a study that says black men date white women far more than white men date black women, but, on the average, people usually date within their own race. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3880679/) I used to…
/r/ExRedPill04/09/21 03:15 PM
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No, I actually read FDS. I was curious what it was, because I kept seeing everyone reference it. So I went to the sub, read all the current hot posts, read all the comments, and that told me pretty much everything I needed to know.
/r/ExRedPill04/09/21 02:59 PM
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Some lessons after leaving: Acting like a shallow fuckboy while truly wanting love will gain you nothing but pain. Texting games/strategic ignoring will typically attract people you wouldn't want a longterm relationship with and will probably burn you in the end. Just because you got cheated on/used by a girl doesn't justify TRP. Dating is not black and white, nor is it really easy to understand. Alot of people don't really even know why they feel attraction, sometimes it just happens and clicks…
/r/ExRedPill03/09/21 11:03 PM
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Yeah, angry and terrible at introspection. And I agree. If it was just genuine tips, that would be cool. But instead it's usually a girl ranting about a first date where the guy did something cringe, then 100 other women replying about how men suck.
/r/ExRedPill03/09/21 08:05 PM
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FDS is one of the most sanctimonious subs on the app.
/r/ExRedPill03/09/21 07:20 PM
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So we have a death cult that craves destruction (including self-destruction) and a heteronomous group that wants to make this world a better place and in the process alienates a few people because they are no gentle enough in their proselytising. And for you, these two groups are the two, interchangeable sides of the same coin? I think perhaps my original comment wasn't clear enough, so I'll go back and edit it. I'm not talking about their ideologies. I don't think that they are even somewhat co…
/r/ExRedPill03/09/21 03:59 PM
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Yeah from my experience the alt-right/RedPill dudes are guilty of everything that they accuse SJWs of being. Their group chats are literally just them sending examples of "the West crumbling," complaining about women, hating on the LGBT+ community, and fetishizing this mirage of perfection that they think they'd attain if we embraced theocratic fascism. They can be really miserable people.
/r/ExRedPill03/09/21 06:00 AM
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Yeah that's the one. I think both have their own unique problems and advantages. Also as a man you're more likely to be cheated on in your 20s, but as a woman you're more likely to be cheated on later in life. So it's like pick your poison lol.
/r/ExRedPill01/09/21 12:44 AM
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Oh of course not, I was talking about with the online dating scene/people who are indeed searching for first dates. But yeah, getting catcalled on the street or flirted with everytime you go to the gym is probably super annoying. This is only in the context of seeking.
/r/ExRedPill01/09/21 12:37 AM
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That's probably impossible to answer. I think that both sides are going to typically claim that they have it the hardest. For dating, I think it's a fact that woman can attain dates far easier than men on average. They can also get sex easier than men. But, dating isn't as shallow as sex. I don't know any man that shares his location with his buddies just in case the girl assaults him, but most of the girls that I've dated will share their locations on all first dates with their girlfriends beca…
/r/ExRedPill01/09/21 12:32 AM
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I think contrapoints, a woman who transitioned from male to female, has a great opinion on this. She talks about the difference between before and after she transitioned, and she does admit that she gets far more hits, far more messages, etc on dating websites now. Of course, some of these are obnoxious af, but she admits that as a man there was often radio silence trying to get dates. So she ponders which is better, and, it's been a while since I've seen the video, but I believe she says the at…
/r/ExRedPill01/09/21 12:28 AM
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No, but 2 years ago I was where you are. R/breakups is a pretty helpful place. They give alot of tips on how to recover after a bad breakup. I think you need to give yourself time to heal. Like a physical injury or a viral infection in the body, you need to take some time for yourself. And also remember, don't get into another relationship until you're 100% ready to do so. There's a phase that happened to me, almost like a "false recovery" where you feel extremely high and elated. This happened …
/r/ExRedPill29/08/21 03:52 PM
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Yes. Dating toxic girls gave me a rush, I will admit that. My first "girlfriend" ever was extremely toxic. I'm not sure if I could even call her my first "girlfriend" because we were young. Anyway, I unknowingly cheated with her, because she neglected to tell me that she was currently in a relationship with another guy! It was an utter shitshow lol. But the entire time was such an emotional rollercoaster. The highs were extremely fucking high, and the lows were equally as low. How did I change? …
/r/ExRedPill29/08/21 12:34 AM
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There's a couple things that you said here that I don't think are illustrated in the scientific literature. First off, I don't think any studies show that women go for the men who can "smooth talk" the best or have the best "game." Usually women pick men that they find physically attractive, and then after that it's things like preferred personality traits, worldview similarities, occupation, etc. Alot of attraction seems to be subconscious too, meaning we're not 100% sure why we find something …
/r/ExRedPill27/08/21 03:22 PM
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Basically. He told me that since it's harder for men to get laid it wasn't as bad when a man cheats.
/r/ExRedPill26/08/21 01:27 AM
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I feel like RedPill ideas have been floating around for a really, really long time. For example I didn't know what TRP was 10 years ago but I often heard the phrase "nice guys finish last" and there was always the stereotype that women prefer jerks. But thanks to the internet and social media, like-minded individuals can get together and make a group based off common opinions.
/r/ExRedPill26/08/21 01:26 AM
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I once had a redpilled friend who cheated on his girlfriend all while paranoid she was cheating on him...
/r/ExRedPill26/08/21 01:23 AM
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Looks are important. But I don't think it's quite as grim as the black pill would have you believe.
/r/ExRedPill23/08/21 09:46 PM
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You can't fire me, I quit! Lmao.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 03:08 AM
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That's so weird. I think if you're in your 30s/40s/50s and you're going after girls in their late teens, age of consent aside, that's still so fucking weird. I'm 22 and the age of consent is 16 in my state, but I would have almost absolutely nothing in common with someone that age. I can't see any good motivations dating that young besides trying to take advantage. These guys could never get a mature woman to fall for them/pick them, so they try to get girls that are still emotionally immature a…
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 03:06 AM
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I think you're looking at sex in a very basic way. Sex is a very intimate thing. Part of sex is the satisfaction that someone else is attracted to you, no? That the other person is also enjoying it too, because they desired you. I fail to see how prostitution would deliver any of these. Just another blow to the self-esteem where they think "the only sex I've ever had, I had to pay for. She probably hated every minute of it."
/r/ExRedPill16/08/21 10:23 PM
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It's illegal to pay for sex in alot of the world. You can get a hefty punishment in areas of the US. It's definitely not a safe thing to do. Not only with STDs, but there's a chance it's a setup and you could get robbed or hurt. Human trafficking is a major issue, and alot of people are aware of this. Sure, some women in the sex work industry want to be doing it, but alot don't. Alot are coerced by pimps and traffickers. Alot are struggling with addiction. You never know. So yeah, I feel like th…
/r/ExRedPill16/08/21 09:16 AM
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I'd say manipulation is more like lying. Pretending to be someone you're not. Like, yeah, we're all going to try and sell the best versions of ourselves when dating. But it's still you that you're selling. Manipulation is when you lie to try and make your life more interesting than it really is. Or when you pretend to be busy when you're really not. These things might work for a date, but they're not gonna get you very far passed that.
/r/ExRedPill14/08/21 06:00 PM
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Well first off, if you're looking for the dates to turn into a meaningful relationship, you probably need to be honest in how you present yourself. That doesn't mean be boring, you can present sort of the "best version" of yourself, but make sure it is indeed you. If you put on this facade of saying and doing things that you imagine a "cool guy" would do, she's going to be confused when it turns into a relationship and you're a totally different guy. But some simple advice, just take what your p…
/r/ExRedPill14/08/21 05:58 PM
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I don't think "inceldom" would make much sense as a mental illness. It can surely be a symptom of several mental illnesses, sure. Major depressive disorder, for example, could leave people feeling less than garbage for no apparent reason, which is similar to the incel's mentality. Imagine if BPD, autistic or other sufferers of mental illnesses were disregarded, shamed and stigmatised the same way incels are? Incels are shamed and stigmatized often because they radicalize other incels. They don't…
/r/ExRedPill14/08/21 05:35 AM
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Oof. Take the yellow pill instead my dude.
/r/ExRedPill14/08/21 03:51 AM
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It can be so hard to help them sometimes though. First off, like half of them are just belligerent little trolls. I try to help, then halfway through the conversation I realize that this was just an elaborate troll. The other half just come off as rude. Most of these young guys have decent looks, but their personalities are just abysmal. I was trying to help one the other day and the conversation ended with him freaking out and threatening to murder me. I've never talked to an incel where I got …
/r/ExRedPill14/08/21 03:38 AM
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I don't think that's emotional suppression at all. It's a goal. You have to admit to yourself that you care too much about external validation, then work to minimize that.
/r/ExRedPill11/08/21 11:46 PM
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When did he ever tell OP to "suppress his emotions"? Are we reading the same comment? What I saw was seek help, find stability, and prioritize yourself first.
/r/ExRedPill11/08/21 11:41 PM
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Escorts aren't legal in alot of the world, and doing this could come with a hefty punishment in some areas of the US. Furthermore, it's not always clean and safe in some parts of the world, as human trafficking is a problem in the US. Just wanted to add this little side note.
/r/ExRedPill11/08/21 10:36 PM
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This is the right answer.
/r/ExRedPill11/08/21 10:32 PM
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My personal opinion? She seems like a grifter. I don't really know if she believes much of anything, I feel like she was making rightwing reactionary videos simply because that was the more popular thing to do at the time, and now she seems to be making more leftwing content because that's coming into fashion. I could be wrong, that's just my intuition about her.
/r/ExRedPill10/08/21 10:26 PM
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Is there more to the quote that I'm missing? I don't see any of that in there.
/r/ExRedPill10/08/21 10:22 PM
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You are unintentionally muddying the waters here, AF/BB is looking at male and female relationships from a primarily primitive standpoint. It's sort of hard to accuse someone of "muddying the waters" on a topic with seemingly so many definitions. I went to the RedPill Archives' dictionary and apparently that isn't the right one. AF is the guys who can leverage purely their primitive natural god-given aspects for sex and nothing else. If you're saying attractive people have an easier time getting…
/r/ExRedPill08/08/21 03:31 PM
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I'm not conflating anything. Why couldn't someone be both? Why couldn't someone be tall, have good facial structure, but also be responsible and mature? Likewise, why couldn't someone be a "bad boy" or a "cool boy" while having poor facial structure? It's crazy to me that so many people seemingly can't read a quote. You guys are all trying so hard to make this RedPilled. She calls the responsible man sexier than the others in the long run, and you all are like "well maybe she actually meant this…
/r/ExRedPill08/08/21 03:20 PM
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How do you get that from that? You're reading it with your own bias. She doesn't say "alphas". She lists alot of different types of men. Even "crazy" men. And lmao, that's your interpretation dude. She says it's sexy, and you're trying to re-interpret her plain language to fit your narrative better.
/r/ExRedPill07/08/21 07:58 PM
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I'm still confused as to why you think this quote is AF/BB. It's not. Here's how the RedPill dictionary defines AF/BB: "The sexual duality that modern women display where they pigeonhole males into one of two categories - the 'alpha fucks' is the attractive man that she will sleep with but will not easily commit to her, and the 'beta bucks' is the unattractive man who will readily commit to her and provide her with validation and resources. Women want to sleep with the AF, but simultaneously wan…
/r/ExRedPill07/08/21 07:22 PM
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That quote isn't AF/BB at all. She's saying to date all types of men while you're young, and then finally settle down with an egalitarian type of man. She even calls this "sexy". AF/BB is the idea that women will "ride the cock carousel" in their youth until they finally settle down for a betamale. The woman is never truly attracted to this betamale, she just wants his money and support. During this marriage, shell continuously cheat with other alphas while living off the beta, then, eventually,…
/r/ExRedPill07/08/21 07:15 PM
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Not all parts. I feel like this question gets asked alot, which is fine, because it's a valid question. I'll break it down into parts: The good: 1. Developing self-confidence. 2. Developing self-worth (leaving someone who disrespects you). 3. Self-care things like working out, hygiene, and working on your own career path. 4. Encouragement of socializing and making friends. The bad: 1. A toxic suppression of emotion. While controlling your emotions is fine, TRP often preaches a total suppression …
/r/ExRedPill07/08/21 06:40 PM
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Yeah, as much as confidence is important for many things in life, it would be silly to downplay the importance of looks.
/r/ExRedPill07/08/21 06:32 PM
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I've lived with a person with borderline personality disorder. Manipulation is how they live. Probably not a good idea to judge an entire group of people based off experiences with one. Alot of people with BPD live normal lives and maintain healthy relationships thanks to therapy. She manipulated me constantly. But again, my behavior is my responsibility, no one else. I don't really understand how this applies to my comment.
/r/ExRedPill07/08/21 04:09 AM
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It makes the coaches on YouTube money. It would alienate a large portion of their audience if they said something like "people generally date at their own level." So the alpha coaches on YouTube have to instead say things like "looks don't matter at all for women, the only thing that matters is being high status and acting like an alpha."
/r/ExRedPill05/08/21 10:05 PM
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I think there's a substantial difference between using manipulation on someone vs criticizing their comprehension skills in an online setting.
/r/ExRedPill05/08/21 10:02 PM
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If you know the reason, I don't really see why a scientific study would then be necessary. What would the study entail? Would it look at how women select men and whether or not the top 80% of women really fight for the top 20% of men?
/r/ExRedPill04/08/21 10:43 PM
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First off, the claim that the entire sex of "women" does this one behavior is quite ridiculous. It fails to see that women are individuals and thus have different goals. What about homosexual women? What about religious women that want to wait until marriage and don't like divorce? What about demisexual women (women that only are attracted to people they first love)? That being said, I'm in my early 20s. I'm in a stable relationship, but alot of my guy and girl friends tend to be very sexually a…
/r/ExRedPill04/08/21 10:31 PM
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I think we see 80/20 on some dating services mainly due to the numbers. They had an overabundance of male users and a scarcity of female users, so yeah, of course that means the women would get to be pickier and the men would have to fight hard for any attention. You'd expect to see the same thing if there was a dating service that was made up of 3/4 hetero women and 1/4 hetero men, the men would get to be pickier solely because they have more options.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/21 10:19 PM
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We seem to get this type of question alot. I feel as though this has been sufficiently addressed by our other mod @redpilldetox. If you'd like to see what he wrote, it is pinned to this subreddit
/r/ExRedPill04/08/21 09:06 PM
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Yeah it is. There's different types of RedPill. The more trad/fashy redpill community see all of these problems in dating as a result of women's rights, sexual liberation, and women getting jobs/education. One RedPiller put it this way, "there's been no 'waves' of feminism. There's only feminism. And it has sucked really bad for all of us."
/r/ExRedPill02/08/21 06:05 AM
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Jesse Lee Peterson also says it's beta to care about your wife in the slightest way, so he's probably not the best source for information. That guy is a living meme though haha.
/r/ExRedPill02/08/21 06:02 AM
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You gotta be careful about how many of those screenshots are fabricated. These communities aren't exactly made of decent people. I don't really see how this proves anything. You could make a profile of an attractive woman, hourglass shape, beautiful facial features and produce the same effects. You could make her extremely shallow and rude, but as long as she's offering sex alot of guys would put up with it and play along.
/r/ExRedPill01/08/21 09:56 PM
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Yeah I've questioned this too. Our discord used to have a massive problem with redpill trolls coming in and pretending to be other people. Imagine calling yourself an alpha male then trolling people on discord for a good portion of the day 😂
/r/ExRedPill01/08/21 09:43 PM
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I'd disagree that it's a tiny bit. Their views on female nature are pretty much identical. Women are incapable of true love and will settle for a beta while secretly screwing an alpha.
/r/ExRedPill01/08/21 12:48 PM
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I think it tends to be where TRP logically leads alot of people.
/r/ExRedPill01/08/21 12:45 PM
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I mean, as another person said I wouldn't critique it this way. I think a better critique is it's really fucking weird for this guy to act like everyone's #1 priority should be doing something thats most appealing to the opposite sex.
/r/ExRedPill30/07/21 10:55 PM
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I think that alot of RedPill ideology preys on men with mental illness. Out of my 3 friends that got extremely into RedPill, like, to the point where they became misogynistic af, one has autism, one has OCD, and one has anxiety and BPD. I also got into TRP and I've always struggled with anxiety issues and depression. To anyone else with similar struggles, it's worth going to a professional therapist. Sometimes confidence is built once healthier coping skills are established. I still have a long …
/r/ExRedPill29/07/21 02:48 AM
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I don't mind, I'm from Ohio.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/21 01:01 AM
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I'm sure that has to do with the crowds you hung around with, and the people that you chose to surround yourself with. I don't think anyone is saying that there aren't any promiscuous/cheating women out there. There certainly are, but it's definitely not the norm.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/21 12:26 AM
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Really? I don't know what frat you're a part of, but I never saw this happening at my university. Generally at frat parties couples would go together. I mean yeah cheating does happen with both men and women, but I didn't see it nearly as much as you're claiming.
/r/ExRedPill27/07/21 11:46 PM
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This is what I mean when I say most incels aren't even bad looking. Most of their unattractive features can usually be fixed by just putting a little bit more effort into appearing presentable. Nothing to do with bone structure. You're looking great man, glad to see you get out of that toxic mindset!!
/r/ExRedPill25/07/21 01:48 AM
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I don't have these studies on me but studies do, in fact, show that a man's attractiveness to women shoots up if women think he is already in a relationship or married. If these studies do in fact exist, I'd be curious to see how much of this is really pre-selection, that women want men already with other women, or that as humans we tend to want what we can't have. Sort of like how we tend to underappreciate people while they're alive with us, then idolize them when they die. Or, another example…
/r/ExRedPill20/07/21 11:25 PM
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I feel that society as a whole, as least in America, is becoming far less communal. People are going to the far left and far right today thanks to many things, including isolation and the internet, but as a whole, we seem more lonely than ever. Boomers and older generations are always talking about this, but there used to be alot more community gatherings in person. Meeting people was alot easier back then, it seems. So, you get young men that are particularly lonely. They probably aren't going …
/r/ExRedPill20/07/21 06:03 AM
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Did you not see OP say "I want to see your guys opinion on this"? Did you expect everyone in the replies to be throwing around dozens of peer reviewed statical analyses?
/r/ExRedPill19/07/21 05:11 AM
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Right, I think probably the most beneficial thing is to have an improvement mindset. Like "I know I've made mistakes, I know I'm not perfect and not where I want to be, but I want to always work toward being better for people I love." This mindset to me is helpful.
/r/ExRedPill19/07/21 02:16 AM
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As long as you date, you're going to find women like that. People just suck, unfortunately. My best friend was interested in this girl who turned him down because she "only went for grown men with houses." I personally found this hilariously hypocritical because the girl was only like 20 years old, had no stable job, lived with her parents, yet expects the opposite out of men. Anyway, this luckily isn't the majority of people from what I've experienced. There's a common myth that I've seen in TR…
/r/ExRedPill18/07/21 10:05 PM
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Yeah SIMP means literally nothing now thanks to TikTok and Instsgram. People used to use it for men who did things like pay for egirls and only-fans, but now it's used for basically any guy that doesn't hate women lol.
/r/ExRedPill18/07/21 09:56 PM
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Yeah I second this. I've had girls that liked me give me the same signs as girls that just wanted to be friends, so IMO the best way to see where you stand is always just to ask for a date. This will either get a "yes of course" or a "oh...I just wanted to be friends" lol.
/r/ExRedPill17/07/21 08:12 PM
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Lol this sounds like middle school. "Yeah bro I've had like 100 girlfriends. You just wouldn't know any of them they go to a different school."
/r/ExRedPill15/07/21 11:29 PM
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Hmm Im not so sure about that statement with regards to dating coaches. I think some probably respect women, but alot don't. If you consider Rollo Tomassi a dating coach, he certainly doesn't. But even if you look at some of the less extreme ones like Corey Wayne for example. Corey Wayne has said women are like "little children" and that you're basically their new dad.
/r/ExRedPill15/07/21 10:05 PM
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I always say that, in my opinion, TRP leads to the black pill for alot of men. The two are linked, and many men start off as RedPill then descend into the blackpill, but I can list some differences. The RedPill is basically a combination of pick up artistry, a misogynistic view of women, a sort of toxic masculinity, and, to give them one good quality, a focus on self-improvement. It's hard to give a concrete definition, because different redpill men believe different things, but generally speaki…
/r/ExRedPill15/07/21 08:50 AM
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r/bropill is a pretty cool place. However, it's not strictly male, just mostly male. Anyone can join.
/r/ExRedPill15/07/21 12:58 AM
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Honestly, while it was a mix of many things, the biggest thing for me was simply real world experiences. I noticed that the real world was far more complex than TRP made it out to be. When going out, I never saw 80/20 in person. I didn't see literally all the women with 10/10 Chads. I saw, for the most part, people usually stuck to their "league" so to speak. Average women with average men, mostly. And, while yes, women can be extremely selfish, so can men. With regards to alot of "game" and pic…
/r/ExRedPill14/07/21 01:17 AM
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Yes to having friends that did it, but also, I did it. I wrote my story on how, but basically, I changed by becoming more misogynistic. I began to stop trusting women. I thought that all women pretend to want decent men, but in reality look for the dark triad/bad boys. I was also fairly altright at the time, so alot of my RP beliefs bled into my altright beliefs. For example, I thought that women's sexual liberation was destroying the West. I also thought that women were far happier in the home …
/r/ExRedPill13/07/21 09:06 PM
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I've seen this exact thing happen to so many dudes. It's honestly sad. My own friend went from being a normal guy to unironically saying women are "unlovable creatures." It was all Rollo Tomassi who influenced him.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/21 11:19 AM
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She said it's an attractive quality, not the only attractive quality.
/r/ExRedPill08/07/21 10:04 PM
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True, we are far more complex as individuals than TRP pretends.
/r/ExRedPill08/07/21 05:55 PM
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I just watched the whole thing. To start, I cringed at the "Women don't really know what they want" bit. Redpillers parrot this all the time. "Women say they want a nice guy, but then they leave their hardworking loyal man for the alpha male biker!" This is a pretty sexist statement, it implies that men are rational, driven by facts and logic, while women are inherently irrational, slaves to their biology. This is just misogyny. However, he does go on to say some things that are true. For exampl…
/r/ExRedPill08/07/21 03:50 PM
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I have a saying: not all redpill men are altright, but all altright men are redpilled. I've not yet met a single nazi, fascist, or white nationalist who wasn't redpilled.
/r/ExRedPill07/07/21 09:56 PM
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Great articles. It's interesting, men tend to be far more disappointed in their penis size when surveyed compared to their partners. Not alot of women reported feeling unsatisfied.
/r/ExRedPill07/07/21 04:15 AM
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I just read your whole thing. This show has a 31% on rotten tomatoes right now...not exactly a good rating. Just because something is trending on Netflix doesn't mean that it's because people want to actually live that plot/story. Alot of things trend because they're something to gawk at/grab our attention. I don't think millions of people watched Jersey Shore because they literally wanted to live that life, I think it was almost comically dramatic to the point where it caught public attention. …
/r/ExRedPill06/07/21 05:43 PM
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See? Everyone has their own types! And some girls would say they like a guy with more meat. It's all subjective and all your personal type
/r/ExRedPill01/07/21 09:29 PM
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Maybe. I guess it's hard for me to help because I don't really know alot of context to this. Alot of femcels (and incels) don't even look ugly to me. I think it's a confidence issue and perhaps mental illness as well. I actually used to get laughed at for being tall and skinny when I was like 14.
/r/ExRedPill01/07/21 09:25 PM
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Boys laugh at you when you walk down the street? Are you sure they're laughing at you directly? And how could you be sure it's due to your looks? People are cruel, especially in high school.
/r/ExRedPill01/07/21 09:21 PM
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I'm going to need context for this. Who exactly laughs at you and when do they laugh at you?
/r/ExRedPill01/07/21 09:18 PM
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Okay, which part do you need help with?
/r/ExRedPill01/07/21 09:16 PM
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This isn't the sub for this. If you want help on detoxing from TRP that's what we're for.
/r/ExRedPill01/07/21 09:14 PM
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I'll tackle some of these arguments of his. I've heard them from TRP men all the time. it all started with him talking about Jordan Peterson more and more often. Saying he is one of the only psychologist not brainwashed by woke culture and feminism. I said to him that he might say some truths and woke culture is indeed a cancer but I don't like people telling me how I am supposed to be as man, and acting like they hold the holy truth like Peterson does. I think Jordan Peterson is decent at self-…
/r/ExRedPill01/07/21 05:50 PM
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I hope you find the help that you need! I think the last thing you need is TRP community.
/r/ExRedPill30/06/21 07:06 AM
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Honestly, want my advice? Get off all RP social media. Don't even check it out of curiosity, nothing good will come from that. Stop watching all the coaches, stop reading their forums, unsubscribe from the cringey dating channels. Live a little and experience life firsthand. You'll find women and men aren't nearly as black and white as they claim, and none of their strategies will fulfill your desires. Best of luck :)
/r/ExRedPill30/06/21 06:58 AM
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Here's the thing: You will absolutely get burnt if you leave red pill, the same way you'll get burnt too if you stay because there is NO SUCH THING AS A "PILL" THAT'S GONNA SAVE YOU FROM PAIN. I can't stress this enough!
/r/ExRedPill29/06/21 10:55 PM
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Oh really because angry blue pill guys arent the same? Who even are "blue pill guys"? Is there actually a group of men that try to give other people "the blue pill" which is, as you say, a fairytale/fantasy view of marriage? Do they start bluepill coaching services, forums, and groupchats to help other bluepilled men? I don't think so. I think "bluepill" is a derogatory term by TRP community for anyone who hasn't taken TRP. See thats the thing like said in previous comments echo chambers even fo…
/r/ExRedPill28/06/21 11:34 PM
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Because its a lie that guys who follow blue pill are happier. Well I mean, the way you describe bluepill, I wouldn't say they're happier. I'd say they're setting themselves up for a major disappointment, because no relationships are fairytale style. From my experience, any older couple that has a decade or longer together will tell you that true love is not easy. Hell, we even learned in my uni psychology course that the average couple has 5 positive interactions to every 1 negative interaction,…
/r/ExRedPill28/06/21 01:20 AM
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Why would TRP be the necessary fix to that? I think you can have a realistic view of love and dating without the TRP bs.
/r/ExRedPill28/06/21 12:01 AM
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What exactly is a "blue pill" dating strategy?
/r/ExRedPill27/06/21 11:43 PM
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Oh, I know the struggle. Trust me, it's hard. Especially if you've spent years of your youth/teenage years with severely low self-esteem. It can take an equal amount of years to slowly crawl out of it. I have good days and bad days. I don't think this means you can't find love though. That would be a ridiculous standard to be fond of yourself 24/7.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/21 10:18 PM
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I think people tend to be good at putting on a mask when we talk to others, and this mask can be confidence or happiness. However, the mask always falls off given enough time. Everyone does this to an extent. The person you go on dates with is going to be a different person than the one you eventually move in with, if that makes sense. So, if I had to guess, your friend is saying that you need true inner confidence, and maybe some self love/better self esteem, because, given enough time, people …
/r/ExRedPill27/06/21 09:58 PM
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I just went through a little stroll down his Twitter. He seems no different than literally every other RP coach. His posts consist of selling his books, selling his coaching services, calling Western men pussies (and strangely advocating for fascism like most RP coaches do), and complaining about women. I see absolutely no new intriguing argumentation brought to the table by this dude. Why "debate" this why when he parrots the same like 5 arguments as every other RP guy that I debate? What's so …
/r/ExRedPill27/06/21 08:02 PM
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Yes. I like to share my story sometimes. I can be an anxious wreck at times, and one area that I always obsessed over was dating. I felt like I needed to perfect my "game" as much as humanly possible. I'd binge watch the RP coaches on YouTube for hours, read article after article, and try to find the flaws in my approach/game. It got really bad, like, to the point where it would interfere with my life. I had some success in dating, but had trouble keeping anything longterm. It seems TRP gave me …
/r/ExRedPill22/06/21 10:47 PM
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Yeah man, there's no reason it should. I'd personally feel uncomfortable if my partner kept trying to bring up body count. Like, ok, I get it, we've had sex with other people. Why keep mentioning it, lol? But yeah man you're not a horrible person for this at all.
/r/ExRedPill22/06/21 11:31 AM
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So I'll start this off. I am not a good human being Anyone who's honest with themselves will probably come to this conclusion. Humans loooveee to be sanctimonious and hypocritical! We've all done shitty things. I lied to my girlfriend about my bodycount. We met way back when I was still believing in the red pill. We were friends for a year and I thought making it seem higher than it really is would make me seem more respectable. Not to justify this, because you're right, it was wrong, but alot o…
/r/ExRedPill22/06/21 11:24 AM
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Hey OP, I'll tell you my story, and maybe it will give you a little bit of a white-pill, or, perhaps just some hope that we can find love. I've always struggled with dating. I had my first kiss a couple days after my 18th birthday, and my first real relationship at 18. All of my friends had theirs around 13-15, so I felt really behind and self-conscious. Like you said, I'm not "ugly." I have some of what society tends to consider attractive features for men such as being tall and in good shape. …
/r/ExRedPill19/06/21 11:05 PM
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They certainly have the same writing style of certain users we already banned. This group is supposedly so toxic yet they can't seem to stay away smh.
/r/ExRedPill17/06/21 06:57 PM
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ex redpill the moderators still speak redpill truths such as woman want a man to lead I don't know any moderators who have said "Women want men to lead." I think that some women want their men to lead and make decisions, but this is by no means all women. We are seeing women graduate college more, have more representation in the workplace, and more representation in government. It seems to me that many women do want to lead, and are attempting to shift society and make it more acceptable for wom…
/r/ExRedPill16/06/21 08:39 PM
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User banned for harassment. Attempt to bypass this ban and I'll contact Reddit.
/r/ExRedPill07/06/21 01:04 PM
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That's crazy man. You'd expect the entire RedPill forum to be filled with peer-reviewed studies and research, replication, and meaningful discussion then, right? Instead it's all anecedotal stories, men who got cheated on and are bitter, and some pseudoscientific evolutionary psychology.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/21 04:50 PM
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Literally all ideologies say things like this. I was a devout evangelical Christian for 5 years and they always said this stuff. "Once you're exposed to the truth, it's literally impossible to fall out." Well, I fell out lol. And I fell out of TRP too.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/21 04:31 PM
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Most moderators are dudes. As of now there's only one female moderator. I'm a male and I'm a fairly active moderator. To your post, this community is for anyone that has found TRP caused more pain than gain in their lives. Females are welcome. There's an entire community for RedPilled women on the internet, so, yes, there are exredpilled women. There are also women who saw the men in their lives change for the worse due to the ideology.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/21 04:48 AM
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Not only is he RedPill, he's also a big fascist.
/r/ExRedPill02/06/21 11:26 PM
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I don't see a correlation between having those things and romantic success like a lot of people on Reddit say I don't think it's the fact that you possess hobbies/interests that will get you a romantic relationship. I mean, everybody has some sort of hobby/interest. I think that, from my experience, its the fact that hobbies and interests get you out of the house. That's how we meet people. Jobs, gyms, clubs, volunteering, etc. Say you're a man looking for a girlfriend. You join a club. Two thin…
/r/ExRedPill01/06/21 05:59 AM
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I'm not sure what type of therapy you're referring to, but that hasn't been my experience. With regards to "you aren't the one with a problem," I think there are extremes to this. It's bad to tell someone that nothing is their fault, but it's also bad to tell someone that everything is their fault. The former will make them self-centered, foolish, and borderline narcissistic. The latter will cause extreme guilt, low self esteem, depression, anxiety, etc. I think good therapy finds a medium to th…
/r/ExRedPill30/05/21 06:36 AM
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Dude literally believes that countries with Sharia Law are superior to the USA because of how they subjugate women. He posted a picture of a Muslim woman on her knees, tying her husband's shoes, and said this is how it should be.
/r/ExRedPill29/05/21 09:31 PM
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In terms of most damage done? Probably Rollo Tomassi.
/r/ExRedPill28/05/21 02:37 PM
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Lmao imagine being so insecure about your own masculinity that women "graduating college" or "earning more" intimidates you. Also, he then uses this as evidence that the West is collapsing...goodness. These people love manufacturing masculinity crises to get young men enraged.
/r/ExRedPill28/05/21 12:47 AM
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I think it's alot less likely. Younger people are far more impressionable given the brain is still in the process of developing. In the teenage years, the brain relies far more on the amygdala rather than the prefrontal cortex, which is a region more easily swayed. That being said, yes it's possible. The catalyst for this seems to be divorce IMO. Men who are middle aged or above, after divorce, may pick up TRP or a similar ideology, but in my experience it tends to be more MGTOW. Of course, this…
/r/ExRedPill27/05/21 12:47 AM
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I almost picked nofap, then I remembered a decent amount of RedPillers unironically believe women can't love, so yeah.
/r/ExRedPill27/05/21 12:41 AM
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Are you here to actually engage in meaningful discussion or just be antagonistic? Antagonistic behavior will result in a ban.
/r/ExRedPill12/05/21 09:07 PM
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Thats demonstrably untrue based on twin studies. Mental disorders come from a combination of genetics, environment, and often traumatic events - typically those in early childhood are most potent but later life events can also bring them out. Just look at twin studies for evidence of thus.
/r/ExRedPill12/05/21 08:31 PM
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The situation is more nuanced than that. I would generally say that yes, therapy is usually very "beta", There's nothing beta about humbling yourself to the point of recognizing that you could use some help. To say otherwise is a gross misunderstanding of the purpose of therapy. the strategy of strategic text spacing and attraction triangle creation is not necessarily toxic. It tends to be manipulative and dishonest. RP men also take it way too seriously. I swear, alot of them probably make flas…
/r/ExRedPill12/05/21 06:58 PM
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Yeah I expected this comment, hence why I made sure to say "nearly" haha.
/r/ExRedPill12/05/21 03:33 PM
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Oh ok, I apologize for misinterpreting your original comment. However, yes, if that's what you meant, I do actually agree. I don't think it's a necessary requirement that women were abused in order to fall for it, but I do agree that abused women are particularly susceptible to this type of behavior.
/r/ExRedPill12/05/21 06:17 AM
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But sadly it works. I disagree. As a man who used to try TRP tactics, I found that they were very inconsistent. Sometimes they worked, but other times they didn't work. This is no different from just regular dating without the whole "game" tactics. Sometimes you get girls who reciprocate, sometimes you don't. Attractiveness, personality, the girl's interests, etc all play roles. I also found that, when it did work, it would never develop into a lasting, healthy relationship. Just a hookup, which…
/r/ExRedPill12/05/21 03:17 AM
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Exactly. I am lucky to have rejected the mindset after trying it, but some of my old friends are unfortunately still in it. And, quite honestly, they're just so much less likeable than they used to be. I've had to cut some off which sucks.
/r/ExRedPill12/05/21 02:49 AM
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Never heard of this, where can I access it?
/r/ExRedPill08/05/21 08:33 AM
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Yeah the modern man blog is garbage alot of the time. He says that you shouldn't ever throw around ideas such as where to get dinner; you should always be decisive and make the decision alone without your girlfriend. I guess taking her opinions and thoughts into consideration is effeminate 🙄
/r/ExRedPill08/05/21 08:32 AM
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Yeah and these are the same guys who are like "why not just fight back or scream? It seems easy to get away in most cases, I think they're overexaggerating." That completely ignores things like fight or flight, along with the fact that many times, unfortunately, fighting back leads to getting murdered.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/21 10:41 PM
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My girlfriend and most of my female friends have a story of a guy being blatantly creepy like that. It really made me understand why girls can be cautious when alone with a guy.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/21 09:52 PM
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Yeah, definitely could. I was visiting my girlfriend at her campus and we walked by a guy. She told me that he asked her out while we were in our talking phase, and she was more interested in me so she said no to him. He was, in my opinion, far more attractive than me. Probably like a 9/10. But he was also extremely creepy and weird, for example he told her to "come sit on his lap" in the study lounge. It definitely takes more than looks, being a 8-10 doesn't guarantee, it merely helps.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/21 06:27 PM
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Also, as a mod on this subreddit, did you simply make a new account after being banned and come back on this server? Thats against Reddit's rules. You seem to have alluded to being the OP, who I know got banned. If thats the case, I'll have to ban this account and file a complaint to reddit.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/21 12:09 AM
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The odds of your friends that are married at 21, remaining happily married for the rest of their life is about 5%. That's interesting, considering the lifetime chance of getting a divorce is roughly 40-50%. I'm not entirely sure where you're pulling this number from, I'd love a source. The odds that they get divorced, lose custody of their children, have to pay child support, alimony and lose half their belongings is therefore about 95%. (Given how often men “win” in divorce against women, even …
/r/ExRedPill02/05/21 12:08 AM
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Certain RP ideas have always been common as other comments are saying, such as "good guys finish last" or stuff like that. However, mainstream RP ideology is becoming more common. RP coaches get hundreds of thousands of views on YouTube, and I'm starting to see more and more pop up on Instagram and TikTok. In my personal life, I'd say most people don't seem to really follow the toxic redpill beliefs. Back when I was RP, however, due to confirmation bias, I thought that all women preferred RP qua…
/r/ExRedPill01/05/21 08:55 PM
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I don't think OP was saying there is. I think they're asking when TRP says this is supposed to occur. Correct me if I'm wrong OP.
/r/ExRedPill27/04/21 06:27 PM
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Most RedPillers I've seen will typically say 30-40. Rollo Tomassi has said that at age 23, men are just starting their slow ascent while women are peaking. Is there a consensus though? Not really, but there's also not really a "redpill consensus" on most things because they have no form of centralization. Just a loose group of coaches/lonely men giving "advice."
/r/ExRedPill27/04/21 06:26 PM
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If some woman does fall for me, I don't think I can let go of my indignation of being ignored when I was a better man. It would validate my view that women are idiots who chose abusive partners for themselves or else are opertunistic to tge point that overall personality is worth less than tge provider aspect. I don't think women who choose abusive men usually do it because they enjoy the abuse. Typically abusers will actually start off extremely charismatic, charming, romantic, etc. The abusive…
/r/ExRedPill26/04/21 09:08 PM
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I got you. There's nothing wrong with setting boundaries such as, "if you cheat on me this is over." But threatening to leave repeatedly is similar to TRP doctrine of dread game, and IMO isn't great.
/r/ExRedPill26/04/21 05:26 PM
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I've realised that I have a lot of issues, am kind of a narcissist, and frequently emotionally manipulative towards women that are into me. Well it's good you're realizing this. Maybe it shows that you're maturing as a person and developing self-awareness. I think most people are slightly selfish and probably pursue things that would benefit them. So I don't think you're alone in being this way. The emotional manipulation probably isn't good though. What do you mean by this exactly? Recently I s…
/r/ExRedPill25/04/21 06:05 PM
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I realized that I have to leave this seduction stuff behind because it leads me to overthink. That's another one of my problems with TRP and the pickup community in general. They give you such long and complicated steps. They're always like, "smile, but don't smile too much or that's beta. Be sure to relax while sitting at the restaurant table to show you're comfortable in the situation. If you don't have sex by the third date you either didn't 'escalate' properly or she's not into you, etc, etc…
/r/ExRedPill25/04/21 05:57 PM
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Yeah it just takes practice for most of us. Alot of us have to fail at relationships before we get good at them. Then there's some who just get lucky I guess and find someone and marry early on.
/r/ExRedPill23/04/21 10:01 PM
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Then I'm not talking about them. I'm saying "these are the people who are SO toxic, SO steeped in red pill that they are basically unreachable. Don't waste your time on THEM". I'm not talking about TRP here. Im just talking about the term "toxic masculinity" in general and the reactions that it tends to produce from young men. Completely agree, and for them, the simple term "toxic masculinity" isn't going to be enough by itself for them to say "nope, not listening" like the other group, so we do…
/r/ExRedPill23/04/21 06:17 PM
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Pretty much everyone has guards and defenses that they put up when they feel as if they're being attacked. They're not all people like Sargon either. I'd say most are just younger men, typically teenagers, who misunderstand the concept because no one really took the time to explain it to them in an educational/constructive way. Lefties are typically the ones that talk about these topics, and they can be horribly condescending and rude. That's not to say the right is any better, they're, as Shaun…
/r/ExRedPill23/04/21 05:09 PM
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What do you mean? We've been replacing words with better words since the dawn of language. I don't actually agree that it's simply the idea that they don't like. I used to be one of those "anti-sjw" people, and it was the term that turned me off and always made my defense go up. Because, to me, it seemed like an attack on all men and masculinity. If you're going to keep using that term toxic masculinity, fine, but be sure to explain what you mean by it. Be sure to differentiate between what you …
/r/ExRedPill23/04/21 05:03 PM
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What I have found is most people do not live up to their own standards and hardly ever match their standards with their actual dating options. For sure. This is an excellent observation. We love to hold people to standards that we ourselves do not even fulfill, I have been guilty of this in the past as well. People are extremely complicated. Sometimes we struggle to even understand what we want. I don't believe in the fairytale that two people will be soul mates and have an absolutely amazing ma…
/r/ExRedPill23/04/21 05:06 AM
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Oh wow, okay. You're pretty fully RP then if you find yourself agreeing with Rollo on everything. Well, first of all i stopped wasting so much of my precious time on trying to be Cap'n Save a Ho (Trying to help and fix broken club sluts with daddy issues) I don't really see how this has to do with RP. I think it's generally not a good idea to get in a relationship with the motivation of "fixing" someone. You can help your romantic partner, sure, but that should never be your sole reason for purs…
/r/ExRedPill22/04/21 08:33 PM
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Yeah, I'm exredpill, and I don't think you have to be a POS to join it. I think it just takes loneliness and maybe sometimes heartbreak. So, for most RedPillers I have alot of sympathy. Alot of them are young men too, we're talking like 15-25. But for the "coaches" that know its bullshit and are manipulating these young men to make money, oof I have 0 sympathy they can drop off the face of the internet as far as I'm concerned.
/r/ExRedPill22/04/21 08:02 PM
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I'm exredpill. Actually exredpill too, meaning at one point I believed the vast majority of TRP's teachings. I don't mean to invalidate your experience. I just can't find anybody I can relate to or agree with. Feel free to hit me up if you need someone to relate with! There's also a discord with a number of people that were down the rabbit hole also. I mean, this isn't an anti-TRP sub, this is supposed to be a group for ex-redpillers to reintegrate themselves into the normal world, right? This i…
/r/ExRedPill22/04/21 07:59 PM
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Sure I have some questions that might spark conversation. In what ways do you feel it has benefited you? Who, if any, are the coaches that you watch regularly? What do you feel about teachings such as "Women can't love like men," AF/BB, dread game, hypergamy, etc? Maybe this will spark a conversation! Good day.
/r/ExRedPill22/04/21 04:28 PM
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I've always thought we should replace the term "toxic masculinity" with "psuedomasculinity." I feel like when men, typically younger men, hear that term their guard immediately goes up, and they'll start saying "wow you must just hate men since you're calling masculinity toxic." Pseudomasculinity would imply it's not masculine at all.
/r/ExRedPill22/04/21 04:06 PM
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Yeah, alot of these same guys like to pretend there's a masculinity crisis too. It kind of reminds me how in 2016 so many content creators started turning to reactionary content and mocking sjws to get easy views. Now you just have to make a cool sounding channel, slightly change the same bullshit that 100 other coaches have said before you, and say it all confidently. If you read their books, some of them will even openly say things like "this won't work everytime." So, if it fails, either you …
/r/ExRedPill21/04/21 09:33 PM
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I think the view of RP men like Rollo would be that men are rational and logical in relationships, whereas women are emotional and go off their "tingles." Corey Wayne has said very similar statements too. Men are also said to be the true romantics, longing for lifelong love and companionship while women just take advantage of them and aren't capable of ever loving someone for "who they are," rather they love them for what they can give/opportunities. They also tend to say that men, after breakup…
/r/ExRedPill20/04/21 10:12 PM
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Yeah it can make it really hard to debate them. When they accuse strawman fallacy, all you can really do is show them that some of TRP believes it.
/r/ExRedPill20/04/21 09:36 PM
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I was very into Christianity for a long time, and I guess there's some ambiguity. Trad Christians can be incredibly sexist and misogynistic. As to Christian texts to support this, I see Ephesians 5 thrown around alot, which calls for wives to submit to their husbands. However, that being said, there is absolutely no Biblical support for things like dread game or psychological abuse/manipulation. Ephesians 5 goes on to say, in verse 28, "Men ought to love their wives just as their own bodies. A m…
/r/ExRedPill20/04/21 09:07 PM
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I just grappled with it. I welcome criticism. Sorry if my responses are long, it's not an attempt to overwhelm, that's just my style. I like detail. you can't use a study like this to say anything about love for either gender, I'm not sharing this to say women are better than men. I'm sharing this as a point of evidence against what guys like Rollo say. Women were, in this study, more likely to stand by their husband during a troubling diagnosis. And, like I said, death was not always a factor t…
/r/ExRedPill19/04/21 10:22 PM
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Just now seeing this. Well, a few things. First off, the study wasn't only about cancer patients. It also looked at multiple sclerosis, which is condition that is rarely fatal but does include lifelong impairment. So, for those patients, life insurance polices would be pretty much irrelevant. Even cancer in the modern age is not necessarily fatal unless it's caught in late stages, then yes, the prognosis can be quite grim. It also, of course, depends on where the cancer originates. The biggest c…
/r/ExRedPill19/04/21 09:48 PM
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Thank you!
/r/ExRedPill18/04/21 11:43 PM
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So is this your way of dismissing the entire argument in order to protect your ego?
/r/ExRedPill18/04/21 08:35 AM
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Thanks for giving your personal experience! Studies are important, but personal experience is also super important in showing errors in RedPill thought.
/r/ExRedPill18/04/21 01:29 AM
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Hey, mod of the sub here, and I'm exredpill. I have posts about my journey. Alot of people here are actually exredpill :)
/r/ExRedPill17/04/21 01:20 AM
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Most of the mods are male actually, including me. I'm fairly active on here as well.
/r/ExRedPill17/04/21 01:14 AM
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One thing that really stood out to me here was the notion that women don't take jobs as difficult as men because they are stupid. This is ridiculous. Women take certain jobs, on average, less than men due to a variety of complex reasons, one of these being historical discrimination. As of 2017, more women are now in medical school than men, meaning, in the near future, the stereotype of men being doctors and females being nurses will be almost entirely obsolete.
/r/ExRedPill15/04/21 08:18 AM
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Very few, and I mean very few men literally can't get that need met. Yes, there is a small minority that can't due to severe mental/physical issues, however, the vast majority of incels are not bad looking. Most have damned themselves by proclaiming that they have to be an 8 or above to even have a chance. They damn themselves then rage about the self-damnation.
/r/ExRedPill15/04/21 08:15 AM
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However, now I'm starting to realize and question, was this community created to tap into the anger of confused men? I have a strong suspicion that it is. Alot of the people that would utilize the "coaches" advice are quite desperate and lonely. Combine this with the fact that some of the coaches will charge hundreds/thousands of dollars for sessions. I'm ready to hear the other side now, how much of the Red Pill is real? That can be a difficult question to answer because many times, everyone's …
/r/ExRedPill13/04/21 04:37 PM
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A woman should always be last on the list of priority for a man every single time That's your opinion, I disagree. Why would a relationship be the last on our priority list? I personally value relationships and enjoy what can be learned from them. They're not for everyone, but we all only get once chance at this game of life, so you know, why not take some risks and get into some relationships? Alot of guys that do this "I focus on women last" are still horribly bitter and their minds are still …
/r/ExRedPill08/04/21 04:47 AM
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look the truth of the matter is woman do love differently then men do How so? Is it because they love conditionally? Everyone loves conditionally, regardless of whether or not we want to admit that. Please further explain this statement. well its time to put the time and effort into proving why your worth it to these woman and push forward like a warrior You have to prove your worth to alot of people. Friends, family, etc. Relationships are indeed typically transactional. We want to be friends w…
/r/ExRedPill07/04/21 11:15 PM
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Asking random girls out isn't the alternative to online dating. I've never used dating apps, but I've also never done this approach. I ask out girls that I already know, that way I can sort of already tell if I like their personality and if we would match well. I don't think asking girls for their numbers is predatory if you're respectful, do it in a setting that's not creepy, and take no for an answer if she declines.
/r/ExRedPill05/04/21 06:01 PM
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It used to mean that when The Matrix came out. Now it has several meanings, but it generally is used by these groups today: pick up artists, MGTOWs, men's rights activists, the altright, race realists, and jewish conspiracy theorists. So, unfortunately these days it's pretty much always used by ridiculous ideologies.
/r/ExRedPill05/04/21 05:58 PM
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Yeah the subreddit and forums are typically, like you said, men fresh out of a breakup that are extremely resentful, older divorced men, guys who have little to no success with dating, and blatant misogynists. Not hard to see how a community made up of these groups gets really toxic really fast...Happy to see you changed and are out of it!
/r/ExRedPill04/04/21 09:23 PM
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Sort of, but it's not completely safe. It can bring out psychosis in individuals predisposed to it. I really don't encourage anyone under 20 to smoke.
/r/ExRedPill01/04/21 04:30 PM
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You're describing anhedonia. I get bouts of it too. But you know which group gets the worst anhedonia? Recovering addicts. I know several of them, and they said that, when they begin the withdrawal process, they can't feel a thing, no emotions. I got this to a much lesser degree while getting off nicotine, but it was still there. So, no, don't turn to drugs. That doesn't seem like the healthiest answer.
/r/ExRedPill01/04/21 04:27 PM
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Each and every issue should be analyzed independently. And yeah, making nonexisted points is sort of like the strawman fallacy. A way of attacking a group without actually honestly confronting their ideas.
/r/ExRedPill01/04/21 12:58 AM
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I have a few problems with some of the things that were said in this post. First off, if you act like a fuckboy, then sure, women will treat you like a fuckboy. Guys who act like this can usually get sex, my issue is, alot of RP men aren't just looking for sex, they're looking for meaningful relationships. If you act like that, you'll get exactly what you were putting out: used for sex then dropped. Alot of times I'll browse TRP forum, and posts such as this are a common theme: "What went wrong?…
/r/ExRedPill29/03/21 04:26 PM
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I understand but my point is these Red Pill gurus paint themselves as masters with women and talk about banging some of the most beautiful women in the world, yet they settle (which is bad enough in red pill world) with average looking girls. If a coach says that long term relationships are bad, or judges other men for having girls that they deem ugly, then pointing out their hypocrisy is fine. This video strikes me as going too far though, as hes also harassing the women and bullying them becau…
/r/ExRedPill22/03/21 02:50 AM
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Why does this matter though? How women look is largely subjective, hes basically going, "Look at this coach, hes dating a girl that is a piece of trash and ugly!" This is identical to how RP men talk. Alot of the girls didnt even look that bad either, he was incredibly judgemental.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/21 02:34 AM
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Post removed because the way he berates these women is obnoxious. Dont stoop to TRP level.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/21 01:52 AM
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As a fairly active member of this group, I agree. Life is complex, many times theres no easy answer for everything. One mistake that alot of people make is, if they leave an old ideology, then they automatically adopt the opposite ideology. ExRedPill is not really an ideology. Merely a place for men who had bad experiences with TRP to find alternatives and healthier ways to grow. Are things like confidence and bettering yourself positive aspects of TRP? Of course. But you don't need that communi…
/r/ExRedPill22/03/21 12:53 AM
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Oh I gotcha. Sorry if I read it wrong, I'm just used to that being the RP mindset. Alot of RP have sexual marketplace as a motivating factor behind pretty much everything they do, which is a pretty sad reason to do things.
/r/ExRedPill19/03/21 08:55 PM
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It doesnt seem like a possible benefit statement if it's an "if/then" statement though, no? It seems like: "if I buy a house, then my sexual marketplace value will increase."
/r/ExRedPill19/03/21 08:47 PM
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He sounds like he has a terrible attitude in general. Buying a house for purely sexual reasons is absurd lol. That's like saying, "I'm buying a car. Not for travel or convenience purposes, just because owning a car will help me get laid in the future."
/r/ExRedPill19/03/21 08:41 PM
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Doesnt Brazil also have a problem with the far-right? I think I recall reading that your leader over there called masks for COVID-19 "gay" or something.
/r/ExRedPill19/03/21 05:35 PM
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And then these same RP men will absolutely lose their minds when some twitter girl tweets, "men are disgusting we dont need them." You'll then see them screaming "you can't just generalize an entire gender like that!"
/r/ExRedPill18/03/21 11:50 PM
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It's about maturity and being a well-adjusted adult. If I see these horror stories on RP, BlackPill, or MGTOW form I just shrug and go "yeah, that's life." Its pretty naive to think that 50% of the population are angels incarnate that never have selfish thoughts or do selfish things. Can I understand it? I guess, but that doesn't make it okay. It reminds me of the alt-right servers that post news articles about bad things that minorities have done all day. Theyll share an article about a black p…
/r/ExRedPill18/03/21 11:48 PM
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I almost feel like alot of MGTOWs/Incels grew up believing that women are these perfect beings of light that could only do good. Then they found out they're just as flawed as men and are now furious that they're not going to find a perfect wife who will cater to their every need and never do a bad thing.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/21 12:53 PM
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Just took a little stroll through your post history. I see plenty of women hating, and posts like "I hate sex." I'm not sure if this is a troll account, but I'm going to answer this as if its genuine. You lack introspection. You constantly degrade women and people who have sex, focus most of your posts on dating and sex, then turn around and ask why so many people care about sex? I say this in the most respectful way possible, but you don't sound like the type of person people want to go on date…
/r/ExRedPill17/03/21 11:11 PM
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I'm a little confused by your comment. Are you saying that you were dating a girl 3 years ago, you broke up, and now you're back together?
/r/ExRedPill17/03/21 06:53 PM
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To each their own with regards to marriage I suppose. There are risks, but I like taking risks in life. Marriage is a goal of mine, but I wouldnt tell someone that they have to do it.
/r/ExRedPill17/03/21 06:19 AM
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Yeah I've seen this. Its often called pussy-whipping. Its striking how similar the tactics are. Strategically ignoring, act disinterested, etc.
/r/ExRedPill17/03/21 05:30 AM
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Didn't work for me. If a girl had interest in me, my texting ratios really didnt matter. Likewise, if a girl wasn't interested in me, it still didn't matter. I tried this with one woman in particular earlier in 2020, and it didn't work. Followed all of their advice too. Back in November I met my current gf, and was out of the RP by then, so I did my own thing and she kept interest in me despite not following their rules. With regards to the "high value men dont chit chat," that's just teaching d…
/r/ExRedPill17/03/21 04:15 AM
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Incels obsess over bone structure in a way that's really toxic. They'll constantly say things like, "Maybe if my chin was strong, my brow ridge was 2cm more pronounced, and my canthal tilt wasnt negative, girls would actually want me." I think alot of inceldom can be partially attributed to extreme body dysmorphia. Men who are, give or take, average begin to see themselves as ugly over mostly insignificant bone structures.
/r/ExRedPill16/03/21 09:49 PM
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Honestly, i'll admit that i did go for too many popular girls. And that could be why I got bullied more often. But they rejected me, point blank period. I just went for them because i felt like I could be better for them than the popular dudes could do for them. It's definitely not okay to put someone down after they ask you out. Girls do it, and guys do it as well. No one deserves that but people suck, especially high schoolers lol. Perhaps you need to meet women in a different way then. Not al…
/r/ExRedPill13/03/21 11:29 PM
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You mentioned your friends that were slightly less attractive than you were having more success than you did. Were they in better shape at the time? Were they more popular? Did their social skills outmatch yours? Also, were they from rich or upper middle class families or at the very least of higher income than your household situation? No, we were all equally skinny back then lol. Did their social skills outmatch mine? Definitely. But again that's mostly because I didn't try. I can make friends…
/r/ExRedPill13/03/21 09:38 PM
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I hope that I can answer some of your questions here. I'm a 21 y/o male, also tall, but not a 10/10 and I've had success in the dating sphere. Not to say I'm always successful, I think the vast majority of guys ebb and flow. Regardless, it always seemed to me that a man must have all his ducks lined up to even be considered an option for women to date. And if you dont (which i dont to be honest, i am out of shape and as I mentioned i dont have any friends where I currently live and im studying i…
/r/ExRedPill13/03/21 09:09 PM
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It's not what I think is alpha. That's entirely subjective. However, to the RP community, the traits that I listed are seen as alpha. Hell, even by your standards they're alpha. Being bigger makes you more intimidating and thus more dominant. Being taller has the same effect. Being socially adequate also can help. All of the traits I listed would help someone who's desire is to dominate.
/r/ExRedPill12/03/21 12:34 AM
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No, but not because I'm afraid to, I just dont cry around people. My brain is kind of weird, I feel my most intense emotions of joy, sadness, anger, etc when I'm alone. It may be because I'm introverted. When around people I feel alot less.
/r/ExRedPill12/03/21 12:11 AM
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You're playing a losing game mr. "Alpha." Theres always going to be a badass out there who's bigger than you, gives less fucks, more attractive, better socially, etc. Why not just go full MGTOW since women will inevitably leave you for the better alpha?
/r/ExRedPill12/03/21 12:02 AM
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My girlfriend became alot more attracted to me and our connection got alot deeper when I opened up about issues that I deal with, so I'm my personal experience, its false.
/r/ExRedPill12/03/21 12:00 AM
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I don't want to tell you what to do with your life, but the fact that you're posting on reddit means that you seem to want advice. As Zoe said above, I think your priorities are off. You should stop focusing on attaining a romantic relationship when you have little to no communication with people in real life. As to how you should go about that, you need to do some real introspection and get some help. Some things I would say are: Do you work or go to school? Try meeting people through any of th…
/r/ExRedPill11/03/21 03:56 AM
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That doesn't mean approach a random girl and corner her. That means, if you're talking to a girl, and you think shes cool, shoot her a text and tell her that you're interested in getting to know her better, and that youd like to do that over coffee, dinner, a movie, whatever you like. I've done this exact same thing with every girl that I've dated.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/21 12:05 AM
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I really think women just love shaming and degrading men like me for being straight. but then i go on the red pill subs and they talk bad about women as if they are sex objects and women have sex with them? I guarantee you that the vast majority of women aren't degrading you for being straight. Women are sometimes heterosexual too, you know. Are you asking out girls that you know and have similarities with, or was this just a random girl? It's never okay to laugh at someone while turning them do…
/r/ExRedPill10/03/21 11:44 PM
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He has specifically referred to himself as redpilled many times, and has made a handful of comments about women that seem reflective of the central "red pill" philosophies, but what has really disturbed me is all of his comments about race, sexuality, identity politics, etc. It can be difficult to understand what he means by "RedPilled" sometimes, as it's a common alt-right term. People who believe in white supremacy/nationalism would say they're "redpilled" on race. However, reading some of thi…
/r/ExRedPill10/03/21 01:57 AM
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okay but see no problem with what you just said is that from my perspective it is pretty gender-neutral as I stated in my post almost every girl I've dated has started out with something like that Really? I've never dated a girl who started out with something like that. My first gf had no previous bf. My second gf left the guy because of a conflict of interests. My third gf left her ex because he was manipulative and controlling. None of them left guys for just showing emotions. But again its an…
/r/ExRedPill09/03/21 02:16 AM
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Somewhat. I knew a girl who, when she talked about her ex, said "he was such a fucking pussy." This is actually somewhat common, but not nearly as common as RedPill would probably have you believe. Most women are fine with insecurity. The truth is that everyone has something that their insecure about to an extent. The issue is, some men can get rather abusive when insecure. Accusing their partner of cheating, becoming manipulative, sometimes even violent. As a man, I'm fine with insecurities in …
/r/ExRedPill09/03/21 02:06 AM
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Yes. One thing I've said before is: "Not all RedPill men are Alt-Right, but all Alt-Right men are Redpilled." Every single guy that I've met who identifies as a white nationalist, fascist, or Alt-right, without exception, also has extremely RedPilled views on dating and women. Sometimes it's borderline blackpilled, believing that unless women are subjugated and forced into monogamy, they will "run wild" and cheat on every single man. I think both groups have alot of similarities, and they both s…
/r/ExRedPill02/03/21 01:52 AM
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What's legit: Women, on average, will tend to date men that make either as much as them or more than them financially. There are a number of reasons for this, but, on average in the US, it's true. What's false: The RedPill notion that all women will drop you immediately the second that someone who is more attractive, has more wealth, or higher social status comes along. This breeds insecurity and inceldom, as it applies impossible standards to men. There will always be someone who earns more tha…
/r/ExRedPill01/03/21 05:27 PM
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HAHAHA I love this. And as someone who's been lifting for 6 years now, their attitude is shit. They dont do it for health reasons or setting strength/endurance goals. They do it because "the chicks will love it" lmao
/r/ExRedPill24/02/21 06:14 PM
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Its the logical conclusion of TRP. If the RedPill is true, and women will inevitably leave you for the man who is "more alpha," or dominant, then I'm sorry, but all women will leave you. There will always be a guy out there who makes more money, is physically stronger, more attractive, etc. If RedPill is true, then it's my opinion that black pill follows. But, RedPill is nonsense and all women aren't the same in their preferences.
/r/ExRedPill22/02/21 06:37 PM
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One rule that I apply to my life that helps me tremendously with situations like this is: "if I were them, and I liked me, what sort of behavior would I be doing?" So, if I liked someone, would I be sort of flakey and ignore messages? The answer is no. Usually, when someone likes us, they'll want to see us. So, if I schedule a date, theyll show up to the date. And, if they can't, they'll probably attempt to reschedule. Likewise, they're most likely also going to be trying to set up dates. The be…
/r/ExRedPill12/02/21 02:58 AM
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"Incognito," by David Eagleman. I definitely recommend it, most of the book is focused on how the brain works, what the "self" or "ego" really is. But theres a section where he talks about attraction and how we choose partners, which gets into some really bizarre stuff lol
/r/ExRedPill08/02/21 09:56 PM
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Yeah I agree. My comment on looks was moreso targeting the PUAs who say, "anyone can pull a 10/10 if they follow these simple game improvements!" Like, yeah attraction is difficult to pinpoint and different people find different looks attractive, but it does exist. But yes I do 100% agree. Alot of it is rather mysterious too. I read a book from a neuroscientist who shared a study that people tend to also pick mates based on similar structure. So if I grew up with both parents and 2 siblings, I w…
/r/ExRedPill08/02/21 05:20 PM
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I can't speak for everyone, only myself. But I have OCD tendencies and get some nasty depressive episodes. Contrary to popular belief, not all compulsions with OCD are things like handwashing or flicking a light switch 15 times. For me, they tend to be different. RedPill because an obsession. The obsession was improving my game, being the best of my competition (other males), and becoming a man who could get pretty much any girl (because it's all your game, right?). My compulsions to this obsess…
/r/ExRedPill08/02/21 05:04 PM
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Heres something I've noticed in analyzing political trends with people online: not every RedPilled man is alt-right, but every alt-right man is RedPilled to a degree. So, yes, there does seem to be a correlation, since alt-right guys typically started off as teens who got upset because they felt like the culture was too sensitive. Women definitely have their own problems, and men definitely have their own problems, I'm just personally not a fan of generalizations. For example, women online can b…
/r/ExRedPill06/02/21 05:43 PM
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Yessir. I seldom read their forums anymore, mainly because I'm in a stable relationship now and dont care anymore. Somehow, through some miracle, I decided to just say screw it, and stopped obsessing over how to "perfect my game." With the right girl none of that will matter, and being myself will be enough. From a logical standpoint I understand the bs in TRP, but OCD isnt logical. It's a constant "what if you're wrong, don't let yourself be wrong, read tons of articles to avoid being wrong" lm…
/r/ExRedPill06/02/21 02:06 AM
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Yeah, I struggle with OCD and episodes of depression, so I can relate to that alot. In fact my OCD made it exceptionally bad for me. It became an obsession and my compulsion was hours and hours of RP reading.
/r/ExRedPill06/02/21 01:56 AM
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So, kind of lack of success in dating and seeing patterns in who women chose over you?
/r/ExRedPill06/02/21 01:35 AM
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Not everyone wants excitement and thrills from relationships. I mean, most people don't want a boring partner, but things like traveling, finding new date ideas, starting a family, etc are all exciting and thrilling by themselves. What you find exciting and thrilling may not be the same as other people, so it takes some time in the dating field to find a good personality match.
/r/ExRedPill05/02/21 08:47 PM
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So under this, the best-case scenario is that some girl who actually thinks the bad boys are sexier and more interesting will simply compromise for me. The harsh reality of relationships is that all of them are a compromise, and that's why they're not for everyone. I actually enjoy relationships, because I like the trust and commitment involved, but others don't, and that's fine too. Heres another somewhat harsh truth: we all compromise. I love my girlfriend. Shes attractive to me, we share simi…
/r/ExRedPill05/02/21 02:57 AM
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I think we need more of this, considering the vast majority of advice to men on youtube is psuedomasculine overcompensatory garbage lol. If you do it, interview me!
/r/ExRedPill01/02/21 11:27 PM
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Exactly. That may attract women initially for things like one night stands/hookups, but for longterm relationships this looks really unimpressive. They couldn't explain any passions for anything, as their entire motivating factor was getting a girlfriend.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/21 04:49 PM
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It's a rabbit hole. It's a very gradual process. Very few people just wake up one day and go, "oh boy, I'm going to avoid women forever and be single!" It usually starts off with someone who had a traumatic experience with a woman, someone with little luck in dating, or maybe an older man who got divorced. They check out RedPill for some advice, usually getting hooked from the PUAs on YouTube and other "coaches." Then, they start reading some of the common RedPill teachings: "Women can never tru…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/21 03:35 PM
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Not the RP you like perhaps, but it still is RedPill for many. The community is filled with examples of women being blamed for their mental state, many RedPill men blame women's liberation for their issues in dating, basically saying that it was better when women had no right to initiate divorce. I used to be in a groupchat with a number of RedPill men, and every single one would send derogatory memes about how you can't trust women, how they ride the cock carousel, etc. Sure, you don't have to …
/r/ExRedPill01/02/21 05:35 AM
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Of course. You can't try to rationalize your attraction to someone, there's alot of subconscious stuff that goes into it; however, lifting is not the most straightforward way from my experience. Every case is different. That's over generalizing way too much IMO. I've been lifting pretty seriously for 6 years, but that never saved any of my past relationships. Things like miscommunication, not arguing well, and pride did. If some guy's girlfriend isn't showing interest in him anymore, and he want…
/r/ExRedPill30/01/21 05:04 PM
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That's not even what this post is saying though. Its saying that once attraction or sexual desire is lost, it can never come back. And of course you don't plead, anyone pleading for sex is just sad, redpill or not. I think simply telling someone to go to the gym and make new friends is an extreme oversimplification. What if he is already going to the gym? What if he already has alot of friends? Maybe sexual attraction varies from person to person and is far more complex than simply "does he even…
/r/ExRedPill29/01/21 09:43 PM
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I mean, here's my take. "Simp" used to mean "sucker idolizing mediocre pussy," and would generally refer to the guys that tell a woman whatever she wants to hear for the slight possibility of getting laid. It also would refer to guys that spammed onlyfan girls with the false hope she would one day notice and respond. Nowadays, I really don't know that the fuck it means lol. I've seen guys get called "simps" for simply buying their girlfriends flowers, or doing something thoughtful. To me, that's…
/r/ExRedPill28/01/21 10:21 PM
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Honestly all you have to say is, show me some solid evidence, Mr. Tomassi. If you can't provide evidence for your claims, then they're simply your opinions/beliefs. If you want to believe that, fine, but shut up with the "its alpha" nonsense.
/r/ExRedPill28/01/21 10:10 PM
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He also needs evidence, which is not really ever presented. Some scientific papers demonstrating that once a woman feels less aroused by a man, it can't possibly come back type of evidence. But, of course, he won't have any. They never do. The fact is relationships aren't as black and white and redpillers make them seem. Couples who have been married for decades don't always feel sexually attracted to each other, it waxes and wanes. Talking to any married couple in your personal life will confir…
/r/ExRedPill28/01/21 10:07 PM
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Also I did say "extremely" because I recognize there are some guys who take some advice, but don't see it as gospel and still like women. Some may not even really know it's called TRP they may have just found some coach on youtube or something. But then you have the type, we'll call it "dark redpill," which borders black pill. These types see women as entirely manipulative, and basically all they do is use men, can never truly love. Which then can lead to the black pill, because young men go "we…
/r/ExRedPill19/01/21 03:33 AM
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They almost always go hand in hand though. Every extreme redpill man I've met detests women. Either openly, or in private conversations. Theyll say things like, "you cant trust a thing a woman says." I've even seen coaches say women are "like little kids." It makes guys miserable and is a doorway to inceldom and the blackpill.
/r/ExRedPill19/01/21 03:13 AM
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And if you try to question these people you get called a "simp" , "beta" , or whatever term they've made up in their fantasy world. Exactly. I think it's an act of projecting. They're usually incredibly insecure men deep down, or, at the very least, their audience is. So, they know that calling someone who disagrees with them a "beta" is going to be hurtful, especially to guys who are already insecure. Which is toxic. Who gives a shit what some random TikTok "coach" has to say about you. Especia…
/r/ExRedPill19/01/21 03:10 AM
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This entire post reeks of the most standard RedPill/MGTOW advice. "Don't date women until you're at least 30, they won't give you anything in return," and blaming all your problems and insecurities on a "father who was too weak."
/r/ExRedPill16/01/21 10:38 PM
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Many of us young men, myself include, are drawn to these influencers because we lacked/lack strong male father figures growing up. I can certainly say I had the disastrous duo of a neurotic controlling mother and weak passive father, and it's showing now. Maybe, but I think most young men that get into RedPill had a bad experience with a woman and decided to generalize the whole gender as being the same. No one has perfect parents growing up. If you need to seek therapy to better yourself after …
/r/ExRedPill16/01/21 10:34 PM
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I disagree. Both of my longest relationships did not start with RedPill games such as ignoring. The whole game of ignoring texts or putting in 30% of the effort and letting her do 70% only worked for shallow dates. Those types of girls had, in my opinion, incredibly short attention spans and dont stick around long. You just have to come off as a normal person. Don't worship them like a "simp" would, but also don't like calculate your replies and overthink everything. Just be natural with it.
/r/ExRedPill16/01/21 09:02 AM
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Yeah it's been my personal experience that those types of women never stick around long. You can play the ignoring game, and it might work for a while, but theyll eventually get tired of you and move on. Because at the end of the day, you can't force attraction and interest. It has to be natural.
/r/ExRedPill16/01/21 08:59 AM
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I agree for the most part, but I disagree that you have to find men to confide. You can, and I definitely have my close guy friends that I talk to, but sometimes girls have their own perspectives that can help. Some of the best relationship advice has actually been given to me by my female friends.
/r/ExRedPill15/01/21 12:19 AM
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Yeah they would say that, and in my opinion that's a really toxic practice. Like, if a girl breaks up with me, it's not my responsibility to find out exactly why. If she tells me, and I want to fix it, then great. But if she doesn't, I'm not going to assume reasons, and I'm definitely not going to twist her own words. That's just the definition of unhappiness lol.
/r/ExRedPill15/01/21 12:17 AM
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I don't really like to put labels on it, but I probably fit the demi-sexual description. Basically, for me it means that I don't like hookups. I've done a few over the last year, and I always felt shitty after them. The sex was boring, there was no connection, and I just felt empty. But, I love sex with a significant other. When I start developing feelings for someone, sex feels so much better, and I feel fulfilled after it rather than drained. There's nothing wrong with either or IMO. We can't …
/r/ExRedPill14/01/21 10:55 PM
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When I read the RedPill forum, I always see horror stories of a man who was doing great in the RedPill, but then, due to some horrible life circumstance, he vented to his girlfriend about it, and she later dumped him. Here's my take on that: If you follow the RedPill ideology by the book, and come off as an emotionally cold apathetic person, then you're going to attract girls who are into that sort of thing. So, you attract these women, who, for whatever reason, cant handle a man with regular hu…
/r/ExRedPill14/01/21 10:51 PM
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I think one issue with RedPill is if you present yourself as the type of guy who can never cry, or never show emotion, then you'll attract girls who are into that sort of toxic repression of emotions. So, when those men do slip up and cry, say, after a stressful event, and the girl leaves them, then they go even deeper down the rabbit hole. Sometimes, even entering the black pill/inceldom. Everyone exists on an emotional spectrum, some can tolerate more than others, but IMO RedPill overexaggerat…
/r/ExRedPill11/01/21 01:13 AM
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Well, I think it depends on what you want in life. You seem to care about people deep down, if you didn't then you wouldn't be writing this post here. If you want a more positive view of women, maybe just start by befriending some? They're really not all that different than us, every person has their own unique personality traits. Befriending some girls in a nonsexual way may help you start to see them as equals. With regards to hookups, if you don't want a committed relationship, then sure, kee…
/r/ExRedPill11/01/21 01:03 AM
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Not really the forum for this question, this is specifically for people leaving the RedPill. Anyway, to address your question though, yeah, but it's not really a "pill," moreso it's just being an asshole. They're called "race realists" and many times they actually go hand in hand with other bullshit ideologies like TRP. Why? Well if you're more likely to believe women are conspiring against you, then you're probably more likely to also believe Jews or minorities are too. I've known quite a few R…
/r/ExRedPill05/01/21 09:26 PM
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Why? Some guys settle down later in life and some women get divorced for various reasons. I don't see an issue with a guy who wants to settle down in his 30s going for a girl with kids already. He should have the resources to help support of course, but that's not like a black and white rule.
/r/ExRedPill05/01/21 09:22 PM
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Hes really not down to earth at all. Watch his debate with Vaush. He kept trying to use manipulative tactics from the beginning of it. He kept saying, "Vaush why do you sound nervous?" Vaush didn't sound nervous at all, it was just a manipulative attempt to throw him off and get the audience to believe that CoachRedPill is the superior man, confident and comfortable in all situations. Dude ended up just leaving the call because none of his tactics were working.
/r/ExRedPill05/01/21 09:17 PM
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Listen to his debate with Vaush. I'm not a massive Vaush fan, but oh my God he had coachredpill so mad that he left the call. The dude started throwing out silly insults like calling Vaush a simp, then Vaush replied "what does simp mean?" and all he could come back with was "look in the mirror." The dude is like middle aged too, it's really sad. He thinks of himself as "alpha" but comes off as that one crazy relative that never matured past his late teens.
/r/ExRedPill05/01/21 05:50 AM
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What the fuck is up with these weird posts lately? Are we really irritating RedPill losers that much to where they feel the need to spam us?
/r/ExRedPill05/01/21 05:47 AM
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It is my personal opinion that you need to test your potential partners for any red flags that pose a high risk in the future, or to see how compatible you are with them in terms of personal preferences. I mean yeah, humans are social creatures so we naturally will analyze potential future partners/friends, sometimes consciously, sometimes not. Second, you must not tell your potential love interest they are being tested for many reasons but the main one being, it gives them an easy way to lie an…
/r/ExRedPill31/12/20 10:17 PM
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I'm sorry man. Dont let your mind take you to dark places here. From an outsider reading this text alone, it seems like you two have different wants with regards to relationships. She mentions how this was the most mature relationship so far, which makes me think you're into mature/committed relationships, while she doesnt seem to want the same. Perhaps she was still on the fence about it, and being with you made her realize that she, for whatever reason, can't handle it. Dont beat yourself up a…
/r/ExRedPill31/12/20 08:55 AM
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Magic mushrooms for me have always stressed my need to build relationships with people and fix old ones. It's really funny to me that you say this. I've never once tripped and thought "man I should totally isolate myself forever" lmao
/r/ExRedPill31/12/20 07:18 AM
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RedPill, to my estimation, is more of a spectrum. The RedPill you're speaking of is more moderate/light. There are, however, many RedPill coaches/teachers that will say that it is your responsibility to "conquer" a woman, and if she leaves, the blame falls on you for not properly following the teachings. There are also RedPill coaches that will say all women fall for the same things due to how they're wired, so it all comes down to simply knowing what to say, how to act, etc, and you can practic…
/r/ExRedPill30/12/20 06:30 PM
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Realizing that women are self interested human beings just as men are, with a broad range of desires and general behavioral trends. True, but TRP doesn't always say this. Actually, TRP tends to over generalize women, and claims to know their needs. To them, women aren't satisfied with one man for the most part. They will either leave him for someone more successful (hypergamy), or use him for comfort while "riding the cock carousel (beta bucks alpha f*cks). These are borderline incel beliefs, su…
/r/ExRedPill30/12/20 04:45 AM
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Yeah, and that's why this stuff works sometimes for meaningless sex/hookups. It can help some guys come off as superstars until the girl learns it was all a show and his entire self worth and identity is bragging about his body count lol.
/r/ExRedPill30/12/20 01:44 AM
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Some do, yes. Maybe most even. But when I was RP I didn't, I always wanted a committed relationship, I just got sucked into the idea that you needed to know secret tricks/tips to attract and keep women.
/r/ExRedPill30/12/20 01:42 AM
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Exactly. Alot of them either face some rejection or have a toxic relationship, then they seek help in an echo chamber of men who have had similar experiences, and then it becomes a rabbit hole.
/r/ExRedPill30/12/20 01:41 AM
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Some of his advice is just garbage too IMO. He starts his book off by saying always call women to schedule dates, because calling women will make you "stand out." Anyway, months ago I was going to ask out this one girl, and I was talking to some female coworkers about it. They asked how I was going to ask her out, and I said, "I figured I'll just call." And they all collectively went "no! Don't do that!" They told me it would make them incredibly uncomfortable if some guy that they were just get…
/r/ExRedPill29/12/20 05:48 PM
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Lmao "why men and women can't be friends" is another one of his videos. Holy shit these people have serious issues. You can't befriend women because they might pass on the cooties?
/r/ExRedPill28/12/20 11:28 PM
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It's true. I'm a freemason and we meetup regularly on how to destroy western civilization. Our most recent accomplishment was putting people of color in video games 😎. We also created tinder to enforce 80/20.
/r/ExRedPill28/12/20 11:23 PM
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This sort of thinking is incredibly conspiratorial. Why would they government need to be forcing us into these things? We created them, not some shadowy group behind the scenes trying to control us. I think people say things like this because it shifts the blame away from the people as a collective, and us in general. We aren't choosing it, the government is manipulating us into consuming! Anyway, you said some things here where I would have to disagree. Media: Social media addiction is a very r…
/r/ExRedPill28/12/20 11:21 PM
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I see. I dont think his book is full on RedPill, however he is quite RedPill on his vlogs and youtube videos. He called women akin to "little children" one time, saying you have to treat them like toddlers.
/r/ExRedPill28/12/20 09:36 PM
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So, do you think hes RedPill then? You summarized it but I didnt really catch an opinion in there.
/r/ExRedPill28/12/20 09:31 PM
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Corey Wayne is actually one of the PUAs that sucked me into RedPill. I watched his stuff for about 10 months, read his book, and, I have many issues. Here are some, so, hopefully you find this helpful and know to dodge his bullshit: 1. He presents himself as infallible. If a man approaches him with a question, or if a man failed to win over a girl, Corey Wayne has the following response: "Did you read my book 10-15 times? No? You didnt study hard enough, you need to read it 10-15 times! Yes? She…
/r/ExRedPill28/12/20 09:19 PM
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You're right on the money with that. It's exactly what I was going to say as well. People with less sexual partners are more likely to be a part of a religious institution that calls divorce a "sin", such as Roman Catholicism or fundamentalist Protestantism. Some churches will not even recognize a second marriage as being valid, placing tremendous stress on the adherents to have one partner and keep to them.
/r/ExRedPill28/12/20 03:57 AM
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I'm actually a psych minor, I've taken intro, abnormal, history of psych, psych nursing, and even childhood so I'm quite familiar with that concept.
/r/ExRedPill25/12/20 09:17 PM
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Ooo you do videos?? What's your channel called that's awesome af
/r/ExRedPill25/12/20 05:16 AM
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I think you're overthinking this. Just thank them because it's nice to complement.
/r/ExRedPill25/12/20 03:08 AM
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They always phrase it as if it's like this super secret information that can't be accessed anywhere else. It's like a religious cult that claims to know a secret way to heaven that can only be found if you join them. It's pretty good for any guy that is desperate, which is why they prey on desperate/vulnerable men.
/r/ExRedPill25/12/20 03:05 AM
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Nah, but this is why the so called "PUA" community is such a scam. They just prey on vulnerable men and take their money for really shallow and basic advice that you could get from anyone who's had success with relationships. Corey Wayne is especially abysmal. He charges thousands for a phone call, and one guy had to reschedule but paid the full 2,500, and Corey refused to reschedule, taking this dude's money and then publicly shamed the poor guy for "wasting his time."
/r/ExRedPill25/12/20 03:00 AM
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Right, and you don't need it. Take a cult with a narcissistic leader who abuses and takes advantage of his cult members. The members though, in the process, learn some healthy things like charity, compassion, and it builds their social skills by giving them a community with common interests. The clear issue though is they never needed the cult to gain those positive benefits. So yeah, I wouldnt say "well you know theres some good and bad," its entirely bad, you can achieve the same benefits in m…
/r/ExRedPill17/12/20 12:19 AM
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Hmmm, I think it's kind of the opposite. RedPill guys always say women like pursuing us and give you manipulative tricks on how to get a woman to pursue you. But yeah, as of now it is still expected that the man makes the pursuit, at least initially. Usually I talk to a girl for a few days and feel the vibes, if she's giving off very friendly/flirty vibes then I ask her on a date. If she agrees then reschedules I'll maybe ask one more time, and if she reschedules again, I take the hint that shes…
/r/ExRedPill16/12/20 08:10 PM
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You do need to actually talk to women and make an effort though. Just like with making friends. You cant expect them to sort of just appear, you need to make some effort. Heres some of my personal advice and stuff that helped me: 1. Familiarize yourself with rejection. If you like a girl, ask her out. My average for getting a "yes" was probably 40%, which was terrifying at first, but its nothing scary. Usually they were very polite in turning me down. 2. When you do get a date, pick a first date…
/r/ExRedPill16/12/20 05:33 PM
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I think the RedPill takes alot of very basic self-help advice and attracts guys that have alot of chaos in their lives. You dont need RedPill to get this sort of advice, any decent therapist or self help book can also help you improve yourself. Doing things like working out, building social connections, having confidence and comfort in your own skin, etc are all just basic good life improvements. Doing it simply for women to find you attractive is, to my estimation, a very bad idea. You should d…
/r/ExRedPill16/12/20 04:18 AM
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I’m a current “Red Piller”. Just wanted to chyme in and say that you have to evaluate which parts of your life have been negatively affected by this ideology? Just give this subreddit a little browse. Its full of young men who are absolutely terrified of women, because their RedPill forums told them that women are incapable of love, and will eventually use them while cheating with a "Chad." Also, my main issue with RedPill is it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. You tell yourself that women only lik…
/r/ExRedPill15/12/20 08:42 PM
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As everyone else has already said, you're only 17, that's incredibly young. Redpill/Blackpill prey on, in my opinion, these types of men: 1. Young men. 2. Men that have been hurt. 3. Men with severe self-esteem issues/possibly mental illness. As someone who is young, had self-esteem issues since I was a kid, and was hurt, I fell into it too. Don't let them ruin your life man, you seem to hate feeling this way. Have you tried talking about this with your parents? Can you potentially see a therapi…
/r/ExRedPill15/12/20 08:22 PM
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Male, 21, relationship.
/r/ExRedPill15/12/20 08:09 PM
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Yeah, no disrespect to you, this post is not for you or aimed at you. It's for the RedPill men that says things like "I really want a relationship but I'm scared theyll cheat on me again." Its been my experience that fear guides most RedPill men. They got hurt by a woman at some point, so now they overcompensate by using women. Anyway, nothing wrong with staying single! I decided to stay single for a year and a half, (which might seem long or short depending on who you ask), and though it was lo…
/r/ExRedPill15/12/20 08:04 PM
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Great post. I think breakups can usually always been seen and are rarely "blindsides" objectively speaking. We are very good at deluding ourselves into thinking everything is fine though.
/r/ExRedPill15/12/20 02:11 AM
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Ahahaha thank you.
/r/ExRedPill14/12/20 11:00 PM
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Kurk you are truly magnificent.
/r/ExRedPill14/12/20 10:59 PM
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So you might say that RedPill mentality is, in a sense, the default position of a human acting out of deficiency, whereas a committed, loyal relationship is that of two people who are closer to self-actualization?
/r/ExRedPill14/12/20 10:56 PM
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I can get behind that! When I bring this up to alot of RP men I tend to get, "it's not fear, its learning from basic biology." Whis is bs. Not all relationships end in cheating, and if they do, men are responsible slightly over 50% of the time. Many relationships dont end in cheating, so it's not hardwired biology.
/r/ExRedPill14/12/20 10:37 PM
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I mean just giving personal experience. I'm not saying I'm an authority or anything. Most studies on men will say 5.5in is average and I agree with that based on my work. But also, most men overexaggerate with very few under exaggerating. For example if I'm about 6.2in, I'm far more likely to say "6 and a half" than simply 6 ya know?
/r/ExRedPill14/12/20 03:19 PM
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Nah its not 5, it's probably like 6-6.5, but my point is an inch really isnt that huge IMO. I'm in the medical field so I see thousands of dicks lol, most are average.
/r/ExRedPill14/12/20 03:15 PM
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Unless you have a micropenis, dick size just doesn't really matter that much. Most men float around the average range of 5.5in. Some are 5, some are 6, some push 7. The point is we're all roughly around the same, and women report preferring slightly large, but even then, far more men report feeling dissatisfied about their size than women report feeling dissatisfied about a partner's size.
/r/ExRedPill14/12/20 03:12 PM
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First off, as redpilldetox said, this may not even be real. Be careful about the stories you read on here, as an extroll when I was in HS, I wrote tons of fake stories to mess with people. Anyway, even if this is real, I'm sure it hurt, but shes with him now. If she left the ex, obviously the sex wasn't good enough to keep her around. Not everything is sex. I've had some dates that were phenomenal at sex, but I didn't stick around with them due to their personalities. Also, penis size is importa…
/r/ExRedPill14/12/20 03:08 PM
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Not quite. One analysis found that, out of married individuals who get cancer, men are more likely to leave their wife who has cancer rather than the wife leaving the man.
/r/ExRedPill13/12/20 11:26 PM
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I did ignore it, taking you seriously would be impossible.
/r/ExRedPill13/12/20 10:53 PM
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Holy shit dude, that's insane! Girls giggled around you? Damn, you must be a total snack. I can't imagine what it's like to have actual girls giggle around me. What are your secrets? Do you own a special deodorant that attracts the ladies? Your life must be crazy. You just walk into the local coffee shop, tired from a long day at work, merely trying to get some coffee, and immediately every single female swarms to you as if you're Brad Pitt. You have to like inch your way through all the women a…
/r/ExRedPill13/12/20 10:40 PM
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A mix between personal experience and contradictions within the philosophy, but mostly personal experience. I started to realize that girls have just as many stories of men being toxic, cheating, and manipulative. I then started to notice that I just cherry-picked stories from RP forums online rather than my own experience in life. If you spend all day reading about how awful women are, that's going to really alter how you perceive them. And finally I noticed that 80/20 is bullshit. 80% of women…
/r/ExRedPill12/12/20 10:22 PM
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Yeah but narcissists actually usually tend to come off as alot of these traits. But the mask fades really fast.
/r/ExRedPill08/12/20 11:08 PM
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I think one reason why some RedPillers see improvement is that TRP does preach confidence, or, tricks that make you appear confident if you're really not. Alot of these guys have seriously lacked it their whole lives, so showing some, even if it's fake, gets a different attention. But many of these guys need some serious therapy, not silly online tricks.
/r/ExRedPill08/12/20 11:07 PM
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Listen, if boys want to spend all day building an intellectually lazy world view based on social media platform content, let them. Ok, but this subreddit is specifically for people that used to be in a toxic worldview, so I would expect alot of these guys to still have some fragments of their old beliefs. I would like to try and help them with that. Do you think for one moment that OP would get any traction in a board room, class room, or even cocktail party with jibberish nonsense like his post…
/r/ExRedPill07/12/20 05:00 PM
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r/bropill is a community, of typically men, that encourage each other and give advice without the toxic RP shit. It's not technically for dating, but asking for advice would probably get you some answers.
/r/ExRedPill07/12/20 04:03 PM
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I don't like calling people intellectually lazy that quickly. I think OP is generalizing based off their previous conversations with feminists online, which is human nature. Perhaps you should try gently introducing actual feminist theory and recommending sources rather than attacking the individual. People tend to be less receptive when we attack them.
/r/ExRedPill07/12/20 03:56 PM
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I did not say that. I said most people tend to do that. Most people don't have the time to research every topic and ideology in depth and then formulate an opinion on it. Most people make opinions based off what they're exposed to. Similarly, people usually base opinions off Christian/religious doctrine based off what they have been exposed to. They don't search scholarly works on doctrine, religious texts, and exegetical interpretation. If feminists want more respect then they need a better job…
/r/ExRedPill07/12/20 03:54 PM
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My point is simply that alot of people formulate opinions on ideologies based off what they're exposed to. And, to be honest, most men aren't exposed to actual academic sources on feminist theory. Most men are exposed to the popular accounts with millions of followers. But I do agree that actual theorists support men. Alot of people dont know that feminists fought for fair custody to combat the stigma that women are inherently better parents.
/r/ExRedPill07/12/20 03:47 PM
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I don't think the OP is referring to actual learned feminists who studied the theory, moreso the popular accounts we see on social media. Theres one account on Instagram called "Feminist" that has over 6.5 million followers. I feel like accounts like this probably get alot more attention than actual feminists do who study the theory and write academically. That account in particular is hostile toward men somewhat regularly, saying things like, "the fact I like men proves sexuality is not a choic…
/r/ExRedPill07/12/20 03:24 PM
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And that's one major issue I have about TRP. Alot of them will say that they don't support MGTOW or inceldom, yet everything they say tends to point to those two communities. For example, if you have a girlfriend, but it's being a "beta" to buy her gifts, lend emotional support/attention, and enjoy time with her, then what's the point of ever getting into a relationship? Relationships are built on giving and taking with trust, so there's really no point anymore if both parties won't lend any sor…
/r/ExRedPill07/12/20 05:43 AM
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Of course looks matter. Incel communities aren't out here just saying that looks matter in relationships. What they do is tell men that if they're not "Chads," then they're doomed to a lonely life because "you have to be over 6'0", have a perfect angle to your eyes, have a sharp jawline, and a pronounced brow ridge to have sex." Its nonsense. Most men and women have some attractive qualities and some flaws. Everyone is into different things and it's usually actually a subconscious process. It ma…
/r/ExRedPill04/12/20 02:30 AM
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Theres nothing to learn from incel communities. No man who values himself should listen to random guys on the internet tell him that his jaw line is slightly too weak, and that his brow ridge needs to be 0.75cm larger to get laid lmao. Its toxic, and more importantly, not even true.
/r/ExRedPill04/12/20 02:27 AM
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Your pinned stuff helped me tremendously. I like to think of myself as a "man of science" usually, and I love reading peer reviewed studies, so the ones you pinned were a massive help.
/r/ExRedPill02/12/20 07:41 PM
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I mean you don't really need to share the RP stuff IMO. Maybe just tell them what happened to you has hurt your faith/trust in women and finding a future romance. I'm sure therapists help people with that alot. It's a very common problem.
/r/ExRedPill01/12/20 06:17 PM
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I'm really sorry to hear about that, unfortunately baggage is common in relationships, and alot of people hide their baggage. I had a friend who was super into this girl and after months of dating he found out shes still married and was using him to cheat, and not only that, she had a child! He tried to reach out to her husband but couldnt find his social media, so he ended up just cutting her off and blocking. Messed up shit like that happens in life. Especially in relationships. But I dont thi…
/r/ExRedPill01/12/20 06:00 PM
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You should hear some of the things that the RP "coaches" on YouTube say. They know alot of women will want the opposite of what they teach, so they get around this by saying "women dont really know what they want, they usually truly are attracted to the opposite of what they say." Its crazy.
/r/ExRedPill01/12/20 03:27 PM
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Hey! Thank you for reaching out to this subreddit. I find it very interesting how you mentioned a breakup/toxic relationship as your main reason, that seems like a common theme. It's what led me into RP content, and seems to be what leads alot of men down that rabbithole. As someone else said, probably best to stop consuming that. The only real important thing that RedPill teaches, and you don't need RedPill for this, pretty much all major religions and philosophies also teach it, is that you sh…
/r/ExRedPill01/12/20 03:25 PM
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Well theres a few things here. I mean, for one, no man should act like a doormat. That's not RP, that's just sticking up for yourself. No one has to take abuse. But second, the girl in the story you sent me doesnt even seem submissive. Shes going behind his back and texting his best friends. I have never had a girlfriend do that to me, it seems unhealthy and weird.
/r/ExRedPill30/11/20 06:56 PM
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The RP coaches on YouTube did it for me. I started noticing contradictions in their teachings and they would be incredibly rude to any guy who questioned them or tried to do their own thing. And given that most RP communities get their info directly from these channels it says alot.
/r/ExRedPill30/11/20 04:34 PM
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Alot of blackpillers get that way after one bad/toxic relationship. My advice would simply be to keep trying. The right person will eventually come along.
/r/ExRedPill30/11/20 04:31 PM
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That's kinda cringe ngl. It doesn't look alpha or even like that girl is submissive. It looks like shes depressed from her boyfriend being unavailable all the time. I don't think a girl venting to her friends about how you don't care for her is necessarily a good sign of a relationship being strong. And further, this post is a perfect example of something I was just thinking about. TRP takes statements that are true in a sense and then runs with them in an incredibly toxic way. For example: "she…
/r/ExRedPill30/11/20 01:01 PM
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Again I'm sorry you got cheated on but that's a single anecdote. I could start giving you anecdotes of friends I have from college that are married and are emotionally available/intimate.
/r/ExRedPill30/11/20 06:10 AM
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I dont know how true that is. Most of the coaches I've seen on youtube dont even have committed relationships, which is fishy in itself. Also, alot of these guys make their living off giving relationship advice to men online. You think they're going to ever admit they got cheated on? Furthermore, submissive housewife women would probably be far less likely to ever admit to cheating due to the stigma of it and fact that they are dependent on the man for their living situation. I'm not sure I unde…
/r/ExRedPill30/11/20 06:08 AM
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It sounds like your ex wasnt a good person for you to end up with. I hate to say it this way, but I once saw a post that put it into an interesting perspective. It said, "if a dude can get your girl to cheat, thank him. He just removed a toxic girl from your life." That being said, you can look up cheating statistics. Women and men generally cheat around the same amount. Women our age cheat slightly more (by a couple percentage points), but later in life men cheat significantly more. So I just d…
/r/ExRedPill30/11/20 05:40 AM
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My problem with TRP is it grossly generalizes women and tries to convince men to act a certain way which tends to be deceitful. It promotes putting up a front. Which is ok of you're going for sex. But I know a large portion of these men do truly crave a more intimate and committed bond ya know?
/r/ExRedPill30/11/20 05:36 AM
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I dont dislike people who have casual sex. I mean I'm spiritual and view sex as something more sacred than most probably do. But if you want casual sex then go for it.
/r/ExRedPill30/11/20 05:35 AM
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Nah that's not true. Most women do not "go for bad boys." All of my friends are in relationships or have been in relationships, and I'm friends with very few "bad boys." Its a self fulfilling prophecy. You act like a bad boy and only attract women who look for that, and those types of women tend to go for hookups.
/r/ExRedPill30/11/20 05:25 AM
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For shallow dates/hookups. That is not my goal though. My goal is a meaningful relationship built on trust and mutual understanding.
/r/ExRedPill30/11/20 05:23 AM
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Also, depends on what you're looking for. If you just want women for sex, sure, go for it. But if you're looking for a meaningful relationship then you'll need empathy.
/r/ExRedPill30/11/20 04:58 AM
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Not sure how you got that out of my post? Perhaps you should re-read.
/r/ExRedPill30/11/20 04:54 AM
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I wish I could say that statement of "women cant truly love" was uncommon, but it's a phrase that gets repeated in these communities. Anyone who's ever spent more than a day or two reading their forums/watching their videos has encountered it.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/20 05:13 PM
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I appreciate it!
/r/ExRedPill29/11/20 05:12 PM
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Oh I definitely agree. That's actually what got me into the redpill. I wanted to work on myself as I got dumped. Unfortunately, they give all the wrong advice on how to work on yourself. Instead of becoming a more honest and respectable man, they tell you to use deceit and tricks to get women to hookup with you.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/20 05:11 PM
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I saw someone say it on here once, and I love the way they put it: it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. You convince yourself that all women are shallow and want a douchey guy, then you change your behavior to become a really douchey guy, thus, you attract that exact type of woman.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/20 05:10 PM
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I dont have kids, but I do have a sister. And yeah, I would not want her with a RP guy.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/20 05:08 PM
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No problem friend. I was hoping it would reach a few guys in need!
/r/ExRedPill29/11/20 03:14 AM
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Thanks! And yeah, alot of PUA and "coaches" try to claim they're for focusing on yourself, but they also try and force their teachings on you. The whole "text her only once for every two messages" or "talk, but don't talk too much" nonsense. Fronts only last so long, the real versions of ourselves will always come out sooner or later!
/r/ExRedPill29/11/20 03:13 AM
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Exactly. No scientific evidence would suggest women cant love. Studies do suggest men and women express it differently, and men tend to feel it sooner whereas women feel it stronger later on, but none would suggest either can't feel it.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/20 03:11 AM
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Maybe try a different area of study? For me I was so confused with what I wanted to do with my life during my freshman year at university. That added to my depressive episode. The fact I didnt know what I wanted to do made me feel like a loser and it just wasnt a good time. For me I need a goal to focus on i can get very dark.
/r/ExRedPill29/10/20 12:41 AM
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I'd love to share my journey as well! When I was in early high school, I had a really bad major depressive episode. It was partly biological (mental illness runs in my family), but also environmental (my brother was a heroin/meth addict). I really turned inward, and struggled. I did okay with my grades, though I got a few Cs. I just did not feel like doing anything. I'm 6'3 and love basketball, but my self esteem was so low that I always thought I was unworthy of being on the school team. I neve…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/20 08:43 PM
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Very good response. I am a guy but when I was 15, my first relationship was with an emotionally abusive girl. I didnt fall for her because I liked being treated like shit, she said all the perfect things at the beginning and was extremely romantic. I was also young, so nowadays someone being that romantic early on would be a red flag to me, but yeah. It wasnt until about 2-3 months in when it flipped and all of her problems were pinned on me and I started getting called every name in the book wh…
/r/ExRedPill23/10/20 10:37 PM
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Not most, no. I'm sure some do, some people are bizarre and like emotionally abusive stuff. Just look at dudes who pay men to screw their wives because they get off to being cucked, it's weird, but some guys do it. Some guys also pay escorts to berate them. I think the reason that alot of women end up with abusive men is the fact that narcissists/sociopaths tend to come off as very charming and put together. The mask wears off eventually, but only after months of them looking like the perfect gu…
/r/ExRedPill23/10/20 10:28 PM
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Exactly, well said. Pretty much every relationship we have is symbiotic to some extent. I'm in nursing, and I love helping my patients, but my benefit is the paycheck too lol. I need to pay the bills as well. And it would be dishonest to say "you just help them for the money," no, I do honestly enjoy it and love it, but yeah I couldn't do it for free.
/r/ExRedPill18/10/20 09:21 PM
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You're absolutely right that young men have it bad, I don't even care if this comment gets downvoted alot. I think each sex has their challenges, but I think men in particular quietly take a beating until they get so fed up that they go and exit this world. I'm not sure how to fix it. I agree that "toxic masculinity" exists, but I hate the phrasing. "Toxic masculinity" makes it seem as if the behavior is masculinity at high levels, which I disagree with. I prefer the term pseudomasculinity, sinc…
/r/ExRedPill12/10/20 03:58 AM
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I actually find the opposite to be true in my personal life. Any date I've had with a woman where we have sex within the first or second date usually ends very fast and never develops into a real relationship. My strongest relationship lasted two years and we waited about 6 months before we had sex. I'm kinda demi-sexual though as in I dont really like hookups, so I am biased here.
/r/ExRedPill09/10/20 12:19 AM
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The irony is alot of times feminists actually fight for male issues too. I think there are a couple types of feminists. The ones that we tend to see online and in our personal lives just sort of use it to empower themselves and other women. Then, there are the ones that actually study feminist theory and read up on the literature. Anyway, you know that woman that tends to pop up on anti-SJW videos from like the 2016 era? The one with short dyed hair with her mouth half open? If you actually list…
/r/ExRedPill08/10/20 05:20 PM
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It sounds like you have some OCD tendencies. I have OCD tendencies as well. There is a specific subset of OCD known as ROCD, where the person obsesses over relationships to an unhealthy degree, and feels that they need to research/know everything there is to know in order to improve with relationships. It can also manifest in never feeling content when you do actually have a relationship. Not trying to play armchair psychologist and diagnose, but I just notice you display those qualities.
/r/ExRedPill30/09/20 11:29 PM
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Yeah and I mean, you could take this sort of shitty attitude with many things in life. You could say, "your friend isnt yours, its just your turn using them for support." That's a horrible way to view relationships with other people.
/r/ExRedPill25/09/20 12:46 AM
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So what about couples that have been married 20+ years? What about instances where the man cheats on the women? Studies show men and women basically cheat the same, so I'm not sure how true this is.
/r/ExRedPill25/09/20 12:27 AM
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Eh. Not caring about a relationship is lame and you don't take any form of risks. Trusting anyone is a risk. Opening up to anyone is a risk.
/r/ExRedPill25/09/20 12:25 AM
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I think the teachers and coaches are probably narcissistic and have antisocial tendencies, and the thousands of men who practically worship them generally have low self esteem, and also struggle with depression and anxiety. From my experience at least.
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 03:20 AM
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My one friend that's super RP is diagnosed OCD and has alot of suicidal ideation.
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 03:18 AM
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I have a close friend, who knew a couple. Everyone kind of was envious of this guy, he had a great house, a wife, they both made quite alot of money put together. Their marriage was relatively new too. One day, without any prior warning, he walked out in the back of the woods and shot himself. This, sorry to use strong language, is a bullshit quote. Men are complex, you can't generalize like this.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 10:06 PM
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I would suggest Mark Manson, if you're looking for some wholesome advice. With marketing, there's usually push and pull techniques. Manson, unlike PUAs, uses pull techniques. He doesn't push pick up lines, body posture, or the whole, "smile, but not too much" sort of thing. His work pulls and focuses on men being honest, showing some vulnerability, and being authentic. In my experience (and sorry if I'm generalizing), most girls can sense when a guy is bullshitting. As a guy, I'm pretty decent a…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 04:23 AM
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Honestly, everything I was going to say was covered very well by everyone else haha. But yeah, this applies to everyone. People have been giving this advice since the ancient times, which is why Jesus said the whole, "know false teachers by their fruits" teaching. Fruits, here, are a metaphor for our actions. I think this is something that should be applied in all aspects of our lives, dating as well!
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 12:19 AM
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It's not reinforcement, it's using their own terminology and demonstrating ideological inconsistencies. It's inconsistent to say that alphas are leaders and follow their own path, yet also worship PUAs.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/20 11:50 PM
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PUA is essentially: "I'm tired of alot of girls being hoes so I'm going to be a fuckboy." Its silly. It's letting other's behaviors change your own which isn't alpha in the slightest.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/20 11:51 PM
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For real, and that's a huge turnoff to healthy women and people in general. Possessiveness is a big turn off to me with women.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/20 01:11 AM
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What they mean is, they don't like that women can now freely choose who they want to end up with and who to have sex with. The scariest type of sex women can have is sex that's not with you...lol. Due to advances in birth control and equal rights laws, women aren't as restricted anymore. Basically all it boils down to.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/20 12:53 AM
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TRP quotes like this remind me of like the male version of extreme tumblr feminists. The type that post stuff like, "all men are pigs." Every RP dude would freak out at a quote like that and probably even say "that's a generalization."
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 11:28 PM
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80/20 is something I simply dont see in the real world. I didn't see it in high school. I didn't see it in college. And I don't see it now. I mean, I always like to say, just go out in public at a local coffee shop or something. Observe the couples there. Most of the time, everyone is average. You'll find some outliers, but for the most part, you're not seeing a bunch of "chads" out there with all the girls.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 08:44 PM
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The quote itself doesn't make sense. What, can you not love your mother? Are you supposed to turn a cold shoulder to her and stop taking care of her if she needs help? Can you not love your sister? And if they say, "this is speaking of romantic love," no, it isn't, hence the "women understand women and hate each other." Anyone who takes this quote to its logical extreme and implications would then have to hate their own female family members too, which seems like a horribly toxic way to live.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 08:38 PM
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Also, I have no idea how I'm supposed to reply to you? What, do I say, "well in my experience, this hasn't been the case," to which you reply "in my experience it is the case"? This isnt really the type of dialogue I'm interested in.
/r/ExRedPill08/09/20 12:02 AM
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Aren't you the same person that was whining on the other post about girls being condescending to you on here? You definitely don't strike me as commenting to spark conversation and honest discussion. You just spew out whatever you last read on TRP and then complain when some people get a little condescending with you.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/20 11:59 PM
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Really? I don't see alot of that. Actually alot of these posts are redpillers that are asking for advice.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/20 09:35 PM
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Alot of this can go into how we are raised and brought up. My sister was raised to find her own career and become self-sufficient. So, she's in her Master's program and dating a guy who admittedly won't make as much as she will down the road. He's not really a "Chad," either. I could also say the same about my brother's girlfriend. My brother is a recovering drug addict who works a job slightly above minimum wage. I'm taller than him and more muscular too, but I'm single and hes not lol. So yeah…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/20 04:17 AM
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I'd say pretty much all of the coaching is. Just look at their strategies; they pretty much always follow the same pattern. "Having trouble getting girls? What if I told you, everything you thought that you knew about women was wrong? But, luckily for you, I know how to get women." They'll then tease some lessons and basic information, but always point to buying their book. If someone asks for advice, it's usually, "well, did you read my book?" If yes, - read it again. If no, - go read it.
/r/ExRedPill04/09/20 07:37 PM
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Unfortunately, nothing. Nor is it your responsibility to do anything. If you want, be there to offer your advice and guidance, and set a positive example. But other than that, we can't really change what other people want to believe.
/r/ExRedPill04/09/20 03:22 PM
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I've struggled with this alot in my life. Theres nothing wrong with a healthy competitive mindset; however, a true alpha (in my opinion) is comfortable in his own skin, not a sore loser, and can humbly take criticism where its warranted. My philosophy in life is I try to maximize the happiness of myself and others. I just want to be happy, and I want as many people around me as possible to be happy. I'm also quite spiritual, so perhaps my faith also plays a role in that outlook on life. Anyway, …
/r/ExRedPill04/09/20 03:17 PM
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Kind of sounds like Corey Wayne. Corey Wayne is another coach on YouTube. Hes definitely on the red pill spectrum but hes a little less intense than others.
/r/ExRedPill04/09/20 01:59 AM
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Ah gotcha. Then yeah that seems RP!
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 11:34 PM
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I don't think hes red pilled if he says there are good women, haha. Most RPers from my experience say all women are emotionally deceptive, hypergamous hoes that cheat at the first chance. But I mean, yeah that's good advice. Theres always room for improvement.
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 09:41 PM
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I concur. I've also known several women who were victims of domestic violence and only initiated divorce after putting up with multiple incidents of abuse/threats.
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 09:56 PM
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Hahaha I'm playing. Someone did but that's ok I'll get over it.
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 09:31 PM
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If this is the best response then why downvote me :(
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 09:30 PM
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Your source comes from a 2015 study presented to the American Sociological Association. One thing that Red Pillers tend to have remarkable skill with is taking one emotionally provocative statement from a study, then running with that and failing to actually read the entire study. The analysis was done by Michael Rosenfield; associate professor at Stanford. This analysis looked at 2,262 adults, aged 19-94. The survey found that 69% of women initiated divorce, as opposed to just 31% of men, howev…
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 08:51 PM
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Simp is now so grossly overused that I'm not even sure what it means anymore. It used to mean "sucker idolizing mediocre pussy," but now dudes use it for any guy that like talks to women or treats his girlfriend well lmao.
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 03:47 AM
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I mean, your 4chan community literally breeds mass-shooters, creates incels, and destroys the confidence of young men and their faith in relationships, so yeah, fuck you. I'm also not leftwing either ;)
/r/ExRedPill31/08/20 05:37 PM
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Holy shit dude, you must have had some bad experiences with women lol. Don't let one negative experience define your perception of a whole group though. I mean, they're people. Just like us. All friendships consist of mutual giving and taking. I have female friends that I don't really find attractive, either physically or personality, and I'm not "using" them. They're friends just like anyone else. Your attitude is basically "women need to find me attractive and fuck me and if they dont then scr…
/r/ExRedPill31/08/20 05:29 PM
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Nothing wrong with increasing your social circle and being friends with both men and women. I like being friends with a variety of people, I don't only befriend people exactly like myself. Probably not a good idea to be friends with a girl that you have intense romantic feelings for though, as that can become very complicated especially if one of you gets into a relationship!
/r/ExRedPill31/08/20 05:25 PM
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I had a pretty brutal breakup and a buddy of mine that was already in the community started influencing me. Saying stuff like, "its not your fault, women are incapable of loving like men can," or "she probably just wants to ride the cock carousel." After this I tried improving my dating game by watching all the "coaches" on YouTube.
/r/ExRedPill30/08/20 01:57 AM
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What someone believes is very important. Have you ever heard of the placebo effect? People that believe they are receiving a drug will report the exact effects of the drug, despite the fact that they were simply given something such as a sugar pill. Belief can be a very powerful thing.
/r/ExRedPill28/08/20 04:32 AM
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Yeah, my ex would actually be more upset with me when I tried to "act like a man" and keep stuff from her when I was obviously upset. She told me when we broke up that she felt I had some insecurities and needed to work on opening up to other people and being vulnerable. So, my case is an example of where the opposite held true.
/r/ExRedPill28/08/20 01:17 AM
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You're literally no different than the "men are pigs" girls on twitter bro.
/r/ExRedPill28/08/20 12:36 AM
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Oh for sure, I feel like alot of men that join redpill probably were hurt very badly from a girl with a "Cluster B" personality disorder. Women with untreated Cluster B can jump from man to man, and display intense interest/romance until inevitably falling out of it, then being very rude/cold when they cut it off. And I do think that society sort of sweeps under the rug that men can be abused too. Alot of men suffer emotional abuse from unstable women. However, this is the fault of men too, beca…
/r/ExRedPill28/08/20 12:33 AM
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I dont know, but you do come off as kind of bitter. And negative emotions such as bitterness and resentment definitely dont attract people to us, they do the opposite!
/r/ExRedPill27/08/20 05:06 PM
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Look, if you're "way above average," like you claim, and you still have these issues with women, then the problem is you. Not the women, not the simps, it's you. The whole "women don't like any man" and "if it gets them laid once" stuff isnt the mindset of a healthy individual ready for a healthy romantic relationship. I'd say that my advice to you is focus on yourself and focus on stop being so bitter. Maybe practice gratitude and meditation. But, you'll probably just reply with another sarcast…
/r/ExRedPill27/08/20 04:57 PM
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You say that you're not RedPilled, but pretty much everything that you claim is straight out of a RedPill community. I'm not sure what else to say other than I disagree, and my experience has been entirely different than yours. I don't really have trouble with women, and my standards are quite high. From my experience women don't really like the "simp" type of guy that follows them around, it comes off as creepy. Guys like that just nice their way into having sex, which really is not a great str…
/r/ExRedPill27/08/20 04:46 PM
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I have to ask, why are you on this thread? Are you here to learn about redpilldetox, or are you here to push redpill ideology on these members? Everything you shared is pretty standard redpill ideology. I'm going to try and take everything you said point by point. //A woman does something you don't want in the relationship? "Man up," "deal with it".// I actually heavily disagree with this. Relationships are all about working together, and I dont think many women would respect a man who never cal…
/r/ExRedPill27/08/20 04:02 PM
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Because, friend, you're going to die. I am going to die too. As Kanye says, "I live for now, I dont know what happen after here" lol. Anyway, take some risks my man! Get into a relationship, embrace the polarities of life. Laugh with the good times, cry with the bad. Don't take it too seriously. And eventually, you'll end up finding a girl who wants all the things that you want in life (ideally anyway). You don't need a relationship, but what's so bad about taking some risks and living a little?…
/r/ExRedPill27/08/20 04:08 AM
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Hi friend! First off, from doing this brief reading, I do think you have some confidence issues and self-esteem problems. You perceive dating as being chosen by the opposite sex. Why? Why not take on the role. When you're dating, instead of asking yourself "what can I do to impress her," try asking, "what can she do to impress me?" You're a valuable life too, buddy. Of course, be kind and respectful, but don't put the opposite sex on this sort of pedestal as if they decide your fate, you do! Any…
/r/ExRedPill27/08/20 04:02 AM
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Exactly. I've also noticed redpillers typically go for very emotionally insecure women. The type that respond well to mind games.
/r/ExRedPill26/08/20 11:56 PM
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I think the simplicity of Red Pill is attractive. All women are like this, all men are like that, there are only two types of men: alphas and betas, etc.
/r/ExRedPill26/08/20 11:00 PM
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This seems like a very emotionally unstable way of being in a committed relationship.
/r/ExRedPill26/08/20 10:56 PM
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Giving a girl everything on the first date isnt blue pilled at all. It shows a deep issue of loneliness/need for validation. I'm ex-redpill and I would never give a guy that advice. Also your writing style is a bit hard to follow. What do you mean by "creating drama that didnt need to exist"? That seems manipulative.
/r/ExRedPill26/08/20 09:55 PM
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Bro, click on any "coach" on youtube, and you'll see hundreds (maybe thousands) of men worshiping them in an echo chamber fashion. Redpillers worship these guys, and it's sad. They all claim to be "alphas" yet religiously follow some schmuck making 6 figures off them. I don't think 100% of the redpill is wrong, and I think this community has flaws too, but cmon man, TRP is a fucking echo chamber compared to this.
/r/ExRedPill26/08/20 09:47 PM
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Hey, I'm an ex-redpill follower who found this sub. Some things that I used to believe are: 1. Women will always cheat so never attach to them. 2. Women are incapable of loving like men can. 3. Men can be replaced in the eyes of women and are meaningless to them. 4. Women use emotion to reason and men use logic. 5. Women want to be dominated by men but pretend they dont with feminism. To anyone unfamiliar with Red Pill, these are fairly standard beliefs, and quite honestly, not even as radical c…
/r/ExRedPill26/08/20 09:44 PM
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You sound alot like me, I'm always self conscious about my body count because having a high one is seen as impressive. I think you just found a girl that was emotionally immature and perhaps just used you for a short relationship. I had a really nasty breakup with my ex of 2 years, and I kept telling myself "she probably wanted some guy that's cooler than me and more attractive," funny enough her next relationship is with a girl! So, yeah, I completely read that wrong. Life is too short to care …
/r/ExRedPill18/08/20 08:02 AM
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I'm sorry you feel upset about this, I dont think you need to obsess about this. Men have sexual fantasies about things like threesomes as well, but that doesn't mean they would live them out. Just because someone fantasizes about something doesnt mean they need it to happen to satisfy them. Tons of people in relationships watch porn, that doesn't mean they need to go live out that porn to be happy.
/r/ExRedPill18/08/20 07:46 AM
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