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autoNFA/r/seduction09/02/12 02:14 AM
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Purple DiscussionautoNFA/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 12:23 AM
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CMVautoNFA/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 09:07 PM
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Purple DiscussionautoNFA/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/14 03:06 AM
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Question for BluePillautoNFA/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 10:09 PM
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autoNFA/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/14 08:12 PM
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Ask Red PillautoNFA/r/TheRedPill31/01/14 10:01 PM
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autoNFA/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 10:19 PM
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Question for RedPillautoNFA/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 09:55 PM
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DiscussionautoNFA/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 04:40 AM
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autoNFA/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 09:32 AM
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Purple DiscussionautoNFA/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/14 10:28 PM
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autoNFA/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 05:24 AM
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Question For BluepillautoNFA/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 09:33 PM
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Red Pill TheoryautoNFA/r/TheRedPill03/12/13 11:17 PM
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Q4AllautoNFA/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 01:53 AM
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Purple DiscussionautoNFA/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 10:05 PM
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Laziness and stupidity are insult-worthy on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 02:46 PM
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I don't buy it. I don't generally go around making fun of white supremacists by saying that they're actually Pakistani, because being Pakistani isn't a bad thing. I mean, it's funny when some KKK dipshit turns out to have black great-grandparents or something, but the humor doesn't work at all for someone without that connection. Most of the insults on /r/beholdthemasterrace, for example, are about the laziness and stupidity of white supremacists, not that they're not actually white.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 03:05 AM
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https://quran.com/8 - some examples of the "convert or be slaughtered" theme that runs through the Quran.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 03:10 AM
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For fuck's sake, other people committing genocide doesn't make all of Mohammad's genocide okay. Have you even read the Quran or Hadiths? Actually read them through, not just had people tell you about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 01:19 AM
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Where do you see me praising Christianity? Bunch of pro-slavery bastards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 01:06 AM
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I suppose I did omit the possibility of being too stupid to notice unambiguous glorification of genocide and a mass murderer. Being judgmental of evil is fundamentally good.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 12:45 AM
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If a person willfully adheres to a nakedly violent, oppressive ideology, what does that say about that person?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 12:30 AM
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Bullshit (not including: Norway island terror attack, Texas package bomber, that dude in Charlottesville who rammed people with a car, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 12:25 AM
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All three are evil - Islam, white nationalism, and Nazi-ism alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 02:28 AM
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It's also white nationalist and neo-Nazi apologist junk.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 05:02 PM
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Sure, if you're in an LTR and you don't go overboard with it. Also I have a hunch that it'd be useful in a few very limited circumstances before you've gotten together, like in some scenarios where she perceives you to be too high-value for her, but I can't think of a good specific example.
/r/askTRP16/10/17 06:20 PM
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I have lots of feminists friends on social media who regularly post feminist articles and also talk about pop music. This is the first time I've heard anything about this. It looks like it got a lot of coverage, but it was not a significant topic of conversation in my observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 09:26 PM
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Diane is absolutely not regarded as a nerd by her peers. She's widely considered to be very beautiful, and people don't know her because they perceive her as so far out of their league that they think they can't get close to her. She's introverted and studious, but those qualities alone don't make someone a nerd.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 03:20 AM
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Preston from Can't Hardly Wait (wikipedia link) Can't remember exactly, it's been a while since I've seen it After crushing on her in secret for four years while she dates a popular football player, he writes an anonymous letter to her, which she finds, and she becomes smitten with the author. Then he confesses his love to her, which she rejects until she learns he was the author. Then she finds him again, and they kiss/become a couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 03:14 AM
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Body hair is androgenic - the growth of body hair is related to androgen hormone levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 06:52 PM
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How did men achieve the fashionable clean shaven look in the 1920s? At the time, the popularity of women's shaving was steadily rising.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 10:25 PM
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razors have been around much longer than that. They existed, but they weren't necessarily accessible. Read the link. The popularity of shaving grew with technological advantages in shaving tools that made them faster, more effective, and cheaper. The Great Depression was a brief stall, I think. Having a full bush was standard as recently as 30 years ago. Goalpost-moving. The discussion was about the popularity of body shaving in general, not the popularity of shaving absolutely everything below …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 10:12 PM
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Shaving has been around for 100,000 years, and the reason it's a "recent fashion" (if you can really call a century ago "recent" in the fashion world, where trends are measured in seasons) is that shaving was time-consuming and expensive before technological advances made it regularly feasible. Outside of countercultural movements, shaving has been popular since the advent of inexpensive and reliable razors and depilatories.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 09:34 PM
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Who wants to tax you at 100%? How are those concepts abstract? You get concrete security benefits from being part of a functioning state. Being concerned about tax rates and budgets is fine by me, though I gather that we disagree on the optimal rates and allocations (I have arguments that Medicare does go toward the preservation of everyone's rights, but that's a deeper discussion that I don't have time to hash out), but claiming you get no benefits from government is plainly false.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 08:25 PM
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I work 3.5 months out of the year for the government and receive no government benefits. Of course you get government benefits. You get preservation and stability, a system of laws and justice that recognizes your right to life, liberty, and property, and that will defend those rights with physical force if necessary, both from internal and external threats. Go live in the State of Nature if you think you're getting nothing out of government.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 08:01 PM
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Take a look at the list of Vietnam vets who made it in public life. The question is who died, not who lived. Furthermore, from what I'm seeing, there were basically zero rich draftees. The rich kids who died were volunteer officers, and they had much lower death rates than the enlisted. As to whether rich kids died in Afghanistan or the Gulf - I'd bet that some officer from a rich family has died in Iraq, Kuwait, or Afghanistan, but I don't have specific names. Lots of middle-class soldiers have…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 09:48 PM
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Are you saying that currently the burden of war death is falling much more on the poor and much less on the rich than it during Vietnam? If so, what makes you say that? If anything, I think conscription during Vietnam increased the burden of war death on the poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 07:16 PM
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If those issues can never be removed, then I disagree with your assertion that It democratically makes all the people of the country involved in the execution of the military policy. So, once the sacrifices start happening, they are roughly (barring nepotism) equally shared between the poor and the wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 06:56 PM
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How do you make student, professional, and medical exemptions fair between the poor and rich? During Vietnam, the rich had far greater scope than the poor to get out of ground combat in these ways - it's been a lot easier for a rich man than a poor man to get an officership in a non-infantry position when fighting breaks out, and rich people are better able to find and pay for doctors who will diagnose dubious but medically-exempting conditions for the right price.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 06:45 PM
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It democratically makes all the people of the country involved in the execution of the military policy. So, once the sacrifices start happening, they are roughly (barring nepotism) equally shared between the poor and the wealthy. Right now, it is the poor who are almost the only ones doing the dying. How would you make sure that the draft (for infantry combat roles) falls on the rich and well-connected and the poor alike? Historically, this has never been the case for America's drafts, so someth…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 06:04 PM
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I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 07:09 PM
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That's not actually HAES. HAES was started and promoted by people who believe that fat people have a different "natural body weight" than normal-weight people, and that fat people are just as healthy as normal-weight people and would actually be damaging their health if they lost weight. It's a misconception to say that HAES means "you should adopt healthy behaviors regardless of your size" rather than "health is independent of size," which is the original concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 07:02 PM
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How do you get your muscles? What sports do you play?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 05:23 AM
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Women who have the muscular development of competitive athletes are hot, like female swimmers, gymnasts, volleyball players, Ninja Warrior competitors, etc. at the high levels of competition. Women who have the muscular development of bodybuilders are not, particularly if they're cutting fat to extreme lows to make muscle definition show up better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 04:45 PM
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From what I've seen, transmen look more like men than transwomen look like women, but MtF genital modification is much more effective than FtM modification.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 04:49 PM
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Feminism is topical to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 08:01 PM
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I thought "radical feminism" referred to feminists who think existing institutions of all sorts need to be abandoned/unmade and reworked from the ground up to enforce what they see as justice for women, as opposed to those who think that can be achieved by modifying existing institutions - radical meaning "root" in this context. Either way, "radical feminism" isn't synonymous with "trans-exclusionary radical feminism".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 04:38 AM
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Yeah, I routinely see consent workshops being promoted as "teaching men not to rape". That's a good sign of impending propaganda bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 06:29 PM
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There are tons of racist women out there, I don't know why you think "most women aren't about that".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 06:07 PM
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Since when do white supremacists get shut out of the dating market?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 05:22 PM
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I'm not personally arguing that male virginity isn't desirable, I'm saying that that claim was in the linked posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:47 PM
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Pretty sure it's your research, not mine. I'm not the one who claimed that the sentiment "the only ltr worthy woman is a sweet young virgin" is talked about all the time on TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:16 AM
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You mean the two threads you posted? Neither of those support your positions, for reasons I articulated earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:08 AM
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Link a comment you think supports your position, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:05 AM
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Still not seeing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:04 AM
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"Female virginity, unlike male virginity, is a desirable trait" =/= "only virgin women are desirable". The links you posted (at least the OPs, I didn't read all the comments) don't back up your argument at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:58 AM
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Most of the links on TBP go to the incels, MGTOW, and MarriedRP subreddits. What happened to TRP? Are they just not as quotable or what.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:49 AM
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Wait, do they not? I used to read PUA stuff and bars/clubs/parties were mentioned all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 12:45 AM
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It's not irrational, she's selfish and manipulative - she habitually broke up Ted's relationships because they didn't suit her. I don't know why anyone would consider her boring/prudish/Plain Jane though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 06:17 PM
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I don't think he's saying it's inappropriate to ridicule, I think he's saying the ridicule doesn't land because it's making fun of ideas that people don't actually believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 05:08 PM
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Fat positivity runs the classic motte-and-bailey tactic. * Motte: Don't be cruel, hateful, or bigoted toward fat people. * Bailey: Obesity is neutral or beneficial to health and well-being and is unchangeable over the long term, and it should be generally regarded as sexy and never be regarded as ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 04:43 AM
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Not all advocacy and criticism are equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 12:58 AM
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The MBTI isn't just "not perfect", it's bullshit. Tests like OCEAN/Big Five are "not perfect".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 12:54 AM
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Pretty sure the term in question is "inferior people", not "western country".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 03:23 AM
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Lol @ the name-dropping of Simon Baron-Cohen like it makes this rambling mess of lay psychology any more coherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 05:41 PM
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They do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 05:40 AM
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Maybe so, but the argument that sentencing is unreasonably lax after guilt has been established is not a valid counterargument to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 08:31 PM
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You really hear this bollox on other subs? I heard this frequently IRL from feminists back when I had more of them in my social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 08:21 PM
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You're changing to the topic of sentencing given that a conviction has been established. OP is talking about determining guilt, not determining punishment once guilt has been established.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 08:06 PM
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You're forgetting the obesity epidemic. When all the potential partners around you are overweight or obese, porn becomes much more attractive relative to dating and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 05:00 PM
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I'm mainly challenging the point that "a smart girl would not do some stupid shit like that". Intelligent women do in fact do shit like that, often enough to say that it's a thing that happens, even if infrequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 08:12 PM
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Mattress Girl (Emma Sulkowicz) and Jackie Coakley were both schemers, yet they were smart enough to get into good universities (Columbia and UVA). There are more who don't get caught in their lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 04:50 PM
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It's a pretty crap book imo. Kind of a poly-rules-mono-drools circlejerk. There have got to be better ways to outline polyamory.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 04:15 AM
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Alcohol has a very strong effect on your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 05:36 PM
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Then drinking caffeine and alcohol aren't natural either. You don't naturally produce them, and they don't cure disease.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 05:23 PM
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I'm sympathetic to those who balk at calling transwomen "women" in an unqualified sense, but I don't see hormones as being less natural than any other drugs or medicines. If anything, they're pretty natural as far as drugs go. Now, taking nitroglycerine for heart problems? That's unnatural.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 04:17 AM
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The way you've heard it used isn't the only way it's used. "Respect women" is also used by some groups to stigmatize opposition to their actions by casting such opposition as disrespect for women. For example, any suggestion that Mattress Girl at Columbia (Emma Sulcowicz) might have been full of shit was met with charges of "he doesn't respect women/she has internalized misogyny" from some camps.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 11:27 PM
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No, I mean gendercritical. Maybe a majority hates it, but some people there support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 01:51 AM
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I'm also curious about TBP's take - the sub seems to have a significant user overlap with /r/GenderCritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 10:32 PM
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You're conflating confidence and extraversion. Some of the least self-assured girls I've met were loud party sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 09:59 PM
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Confidence in women is attractive, but only marginally important. Compared to everything else that makes women attractive or unattractive, it ranks low as a determining factor. The only situations where confidence really makes a difference are when a woman has crippling anxiety or is delusionally overconfident, which are both unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 06:25 PM
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In the short term, I'd agree with you, provided that it's effectively legal in the area (either on-the-books legal, or technically illegal but not enforced in practice). If it's effectively illegal (i.e. significant risk of arrest, criminal penalties, job loss, etc.), then it's not an option and in no way equivalent to a woman walking into a bar and getting a ONS. As a long-term, sustainable option for sexual fulfillment, it's simply too expensive. Anyone with that kind of money is more than ric…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 05:41 PM
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If you mean "arranged" in general, then sure - matchmaking services are still a thing, especially if you're part of certain religious groups or willing to convert (Catholicism comes to mind). There's still "dating" involved, though it will likely be different from the regular dating process. If you mean Indian specifically, you're facing long odds. Even Indians who are completely fine with their children marrying non-Indians in love marriages (i.e. non-arranged marriages) are going to question t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:42 PM
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I was thinking more Spanish guitar or oil painting or something, but whatever works.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 12:35 AM
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Assuming your therapists are right about you not being creepy, develop an art talent or something else creative. For some reason artistic people with weird social behaviors come across as more eccentric than weird. Learn oil painting, maybe. And avoid metal music (saturated with weirdos already) and fan-art/fan-fiction/model-painting (piggybacking off established creative work).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 11:34 PM
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Idk, only a tiny fraction of singles are on match.com. If people suddenly started successfully pairing up on match.com then membership numbers would skyrocket. There's a lot of potential upside for lots of successful matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 12:02 AM
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I know many ESL speakers with great English and not one of them sounds like a robot or fails to understand formal vs casual language. They know less slang than a native, but they know all of the common slang and some of the less common stuff as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 04:18 AM
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The fertile crescent civilizations weren't white or European.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 04:29 AM
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Eat less of what they give you. Push them for vegetables and healthy options in carbs and protein if they don't buy them.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/16 03:55 AM
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The culture of the western European Enlightenment adapted plenty of non-white, non-Western philosophy, if we're tracing things back like that. Indian philosophy, for one. The dichotomy between "western culture" and "non-white culture" is a false one; western culture then and now had significant non-white influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 12:00 AM
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With large amounts of influence from black thinkers and cultural leaders, in America at any rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 11:30 PM
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If anything, non-white cultures have a bigger issue with misogyny in 2016 than western/european ones. This division is mad simplistic. Also, there are huge numbers of non-whites that are a part of western/european cultures. There are also large numbers of whites who are a part of non-"western/european" cultures (think Mexico, Brazil, and Turkey), though probably not to the same degree as the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 11:26 PM
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Looks like we have the same amount of evidence, then. And I've never heard of women surrendering their newborns for adoption being forced to pay child support, even if the father ends up with custody. The only way I think that could possibly happen is if the mother and father are married, and the mother tries to surrender for adoption but the father wants custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 07:56 PM
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Don't have one. Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 07:36 PM
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I believe women can surrender newborns for adoption in all 50 states and discharge their financial obligations to the child in the process. If the father goes to court to request custody and successfully receives it, the mother isn't obligated to pay child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 07:31 PM
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Really? Which states?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 07:10 PM
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I don't think they legally have to, if they surrender parental rights shortly after the child is born.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 06:45 PM
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Because it's legal?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 06:36 PM
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After the child is born both parents have a financial duty towards it. Women can legally surrender their financial duty to a child after the child is born.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 06:18 PM
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Sex is the largest and most prominent source of validation for men... that are not used to getting it and are insecure because of that. I'm in a long-term relationship. I don't know if sex is the most prominent source of validation for me, but it's definitely in the top tier of sources even though I'm bangin on the regular, just as it was when I was single.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 11:54 PM
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I get and agree with the "women don't do the same work" part. That's turned out to be true every time it's been measured.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 07:06 PM
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I think the logic behind "prejudice is so rampant that companies will let opportunities go to waste to uphold it" is sound. Redlining, for example - real-estate companies wasted money by blocking non-whites with plenty of money from buying more expensive homes and instead forcing them to buy cheaper homes in ghettos. /u/exit_sandman
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 06:10 PM
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Insecurity is a negative feeling, like physical pain, that seems bad on the surface but is actually a valuable warning sign - for negative social outcomes instead of physical injury.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:28 PM
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Insecurity isn't a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 12:33 AM
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Insecurity is like physical pain - it's something that feels bad but which ultimately helps you. Pain alerts you to injuries and infection; insecurity alerts you to potential negative social consequences. False alarms happen, but in most cases the alarm is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 01:09 AM
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That corroborates what I said about TBP having other defining criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 08:06 PM
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We're just in common agreement that TRP is full of shit. That's literally the only common denominator. That's certainly not the only common denominator. Various camps think TRP is full of shit (i.e. forever-alones, "black pills", lookism/puahate, some mainstream puas), yet TBP mocks or criticizes these people as well. TBP has other defining criteria beyond disagreement with TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 05:25 PM
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And if the editorial was about wearing yoga pants to a professional workplace, I doubt it would have ever gotten backlash. I'm talking about men wearing certain articles/combinations of clothing in public in general, not just in professional workplaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:48 AM
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I hope they don't, it's a terrible combination.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 10:27 PM
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I think you don't realize the sheer number of possible clothing choices for men that are harshly judged and thus rarely worn. For example - capris, shorts that are too short, yoga pants/leggings, long boots that are not rain boots, tank tops (if the wearer is too old), loose flowing pants, white socks with dark shoes, the wrong combination of shoes and pants, anything lower than a crew neck if you have chest hair, etc. It's not just professional attire.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 10:23 PM
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But let's be honest, women are judged more harshly based upon how they dress, in general. I don't think that's true. There's a reason clothing types for men are very limited compared to clothing types for women - wearing the "wrong" thing is harshly judged. One advantage that I think exists for men is that there is a stronger consensus about what is "acceptable" for men to wear compared to women. However, the range of clothing acceptable for men is narrower than that for women. Not that I'm comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 10:04 PM
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How many editorials in local newspapers do you think there are about how tacky men dress and what we should ban them from wearing? Women may not write editorials about them, but fedoras and cargo shorts, which are overwhelmingly worn by men, are widely judged by both men and women as tacky (correctly, in my opinion). Men are absolutely judged by what they wear, including less obvious examples (like short-sleeved dress shirts or khakis+sneakers).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 09:17 PM
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What was Obama's?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 06:46 PM
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Yeah but just one "meal" at McDonald's contains a SHITLOAD of calories. Those "meals" are the most expensive items on the menu, and they're high-calorie because of the fries and sodas - empty calories, nutritionally speaking (the fries have a few nutrients, which you can easily replace with fortified bread/cereal or vitamin/mineral tablets for much less than the daily calorie content and cost of fries).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 06:17 PM
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Fast food only makes you fat if you stuff your face with it. Calories in, calories out. Also, frozen vegetables, rice, beans, eggs, grains, etc. are all cheaper than fast food. Fast food gets surprisingly expensive real fast if you keep eating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 05:18 PM
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Feminist dating advice, as a general rule, regards a woman's discomfort during dating/flirting as an atrocity committed by the man flirting with her. It encourages men to be thoroughly risk-averse to avert the possibility that some woman might ever feel mildly put off by a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 05:04 PM
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http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/11/the-messy-messy-relationship-between-income-and-race-and-obesity/281434/ http://frac.org/initiatives/hunger-and-obesity/are-low-income-people-at-greater-risk-for-overweight-or-obesity/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 05:25 PM
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That doesn't mean marginalization causes obesity. Gay men are far more marginalized than Wiccans, and they're much less fat than the general population, at least in America. Atheists face the same types of marginalization as Wiccans, and they're not fatter than the general population. Asians are socially marginalized, and they're thinner than the general population. Obesity comes from eating too much, plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 05:04 PM
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It's due to eating too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 04:53 PM
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Anxiety, depression, BPD, bipolar, eating disorders (especially overeating/binging). Some of those are more disorders than illnesses though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 04:52 PM
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Something like that happens in The Hunchback of Notre Dame (if you consider Frollo the male love interest).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 03:58 AM
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Those are thoroughly normal standards and should form a baseline expectation for SOs of regardless of gender (unless you're into mean people or fat people or something). "Sweet" should not be considered an overly high barrier to meet. I think most if not all of the people I socialize with are perfectly capable of being sweet to their loved ones. "Not fat" may sound superficial, but it's not - high levels of body fat are a choice, not happenstance, unless you live in Mauritania and your town lite…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 03:38 AM
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Most people would think the latter may not be unrealistic, but is still superficial and vulgar. Seriously? Wanting someone who is sweet, not fat, and sexually present is neither superficial nor vulgar.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 09:46 PM
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Jesus, what is with this blue pill bullshit dogma that says girls who don't have "experience" suck in bed? "Good sex" is about 5-10% mechanics and 90-95% enthusiasm and emotional intimacy. The mechanics really don't take long to get the hang of, and the enthusiasm and emotional intimacy are present from the start, optimally.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:51 PM
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IME the learning curve for good sex is short. It only takes about four nights with one person for a virgin to be able to reach "better in bed" status, at least for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 02:58 AM
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In my experience, "practice" only matters for absolute first-timers - what matters much more is overall fitness ability. Someone who's in great shape and can keep a basic rhythm will have little to no trouble keeping up reverse cowgirl after a few tries. I can't say I have extensive experience with virgins, but the few I've slept with were in great shape and had no trouble with maintaining being on top after two or three nights together. I mean, I can't read minds, but they never voiced any trep…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 02:40 AM
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we have to stick to other weirdo autistic nerds and not waste our time chasing after normies. You've really never seen a solid "weirdo/normie" pairing? They're not ubiquitous, but they happen often enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 06:18 PM
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It's only good satire if it's directed toward the people who actually say stuff like "if you don't want to be raped, don't have casual sex". Who's saying that on PPD? Every time I've heard that it's from an aging religious nut offline.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 02:48 AM
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Not so fast. "Negativity" isn't categorically unattractive. Some negativity in the appropriate context is a good thing. Brooding dudes have been popular for ages, and pessimism can be advantageous sometimes. Being relentlessly positive or relentlessly negative is worse than a mix of the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 10:31 PM
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I also think it looks cool, but there's a lot of overlap between women with neon hair and women with batshit views on gender politics, so it became a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 03:10 AM
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Yeah, I agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 12:46 AM
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Committed triathletes don't have the "swimmer's body" - they resemble distance runners much more than they resemble swimmers. And I excluded long-distance runners specifically in my original post, because you are correct that long-distance runners don't have large muscles. "Swimmer's body" is very low-fat and defined, with a triangular upper-body shape from lat and chest muscle development. It's not the body of just anyone who does swimming, it's the body type of people who make swimming their p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 11:18 PM
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no to even remotely large muscles and Swimmer[...]'s body is a definite contradiction. Committed swimmers have large muscles, unless you're comparing them to bodybuilders or Olympic lifters or something. So do committed runners, especially in the legs, unless you mean long-distance runners specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 10:40 PM
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it makes me cringe because it seems like the logic people use to justify men cheating and sexually assaulting, eg, "boys will be boys, they cant help it!" That's like saying that since atheist totalitarian dictators murdered religious dissenters, being atheist means you support the murders.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 06:24 PM
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Not necessarily - some of those women were actually raped but identified the wrong man as the perpetrator. Those are false rape accusations since the men in question were falsely accused of rape, but in those scenarios the women weren't lying - they were mistaken.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/16 06:50 PM
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This House of Cards quote comes to mind - “There are two kinds of pain. The sort of pain that makes you strong, or useless pain. The sort of pain that’s only suffering. I have no patience for useless things.” There are times when overcoming fear is a good idea, like spearheading a risky but potentially lucrative project at work or climbing a dangerous mountain, but then there are times when it's a shit idea, like seeing who can bash their hand with a hammer the hardest. It's stupid to conflate t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 05:05 PM
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You need to stretch too. And no, it won't fix all of your problems, but it will make your problems easier to solve.
/r/askTRP24/07/16 10:06 PM
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What do you do with your time? What would you like to do with your time? Do you have any talents or skills you can develop? How are your grades and fitness?
/r/askTRP24/07/16 10:04 PM
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The third guy also gets with a girl at the party, and all of them have good hygiene. Also, to my eyes, both dudes 1 and 2 are about average on the attractiveness front as they're presented in the movie. I think the movie would have worked just as well if dudes 1 and 2 were cast in each other's part.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 12:41 AM
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The movie Can't Hardly Wait
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 03:30 PM
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People want choice, not slogging through mediocre relationships and pairing off with whoever's left at 35. "Pairing off" is a low bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 08:21 PM
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I definitely care. I prefer women wearing dresses/skirts to pants, for one (edit: and I think lots of men share this view). But you're right about the handbags.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 06:36 PM
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I have never known a C-average looking (and I'm generous when it comes to looks) sociable dude who couldn't get a date. I know healthy-weight C-looking not-awkward/-weird dudes who, while they can get dates, can only get them with fat girls. That's not what I would call "doing just fine", seeing as they'd rather not date fat girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 04:52 PM
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Nope, that's for overweight Americans, not obese Americans. Men are more overweight than women, but women are more obese than men in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 04:45 PM
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Pairing off eventually =/= doing just fine
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 04:42 PM
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An average-looking guy can do just fine for himself, provided he's not awkward and weird I disagree, an average-looking guy has to have social skills of a higher level than "not awkward and weird" to do well in dating. I think you're downplaying the social savvy required.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 03:29 AM
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Incorrect, if you're talking about the US - http://www.philly.com/philly/health/topics/HealthDay711733_20160607_Obesity_Rates_Rising_Among_Women__CDC.html. 40% of women are obese, while 35% of men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 01:50 AM
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How's your hip flexibility? You sound like you have very tight hips/glutes/hamstrings/psoas.
/r/askTRP24/06/16 03:27 PM
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Most white people would never spot the difference.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/16 05:30 AM
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It still comes up on TBP from time to time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 01:44 AM
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It's not "alone", it's an important data point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 01:27 AM
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Not necessarily. Younger hippie girls are known to bang older hippie artist dudes, or maybe he found a relationship with someone he finds better than OP's aunt. And lots of stable business types tried to find attractive girlfriends/hookup buddies in their youths but weren't good at it. Not to say this is absolutely the case, but neither is your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 10:00 PM
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I'm not RP. If you want a definition from one of them, ask them. IMO, the difference is in options - alphas have choice when it comes to their relationships, betas have some of their choices permanently out of reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 09:31 PM
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Most men prefer to have their own kids and not raise someone else's; most men prefer how younger women look to how older women look. By those metrics, hippie-guy is doing better than great-on-paper-guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 09:29 PM
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Which one of them got to reproduce?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 08:46 PM
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One of the main points of TRP is that men and women behave in fundamentally different ways when it comes to relationships. This question is a nonstarter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/16 05:03 PM
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While I like the book overall, I think "polarization" isn't generalizable advice. In my experience most girls who are neutral on you move to the "no" camp when you polarize immediately, while many would move to the "hell yes" camp instead if you play your hand more deliberately.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/16 05:36 PM
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Shaving goes back to the stone age.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 08:39 PM
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The growth of body hair is related to the level of androgens in a person. Androgens are hormones found at much higher levels in men than in women. Shaving body hair makes women look less masculine and more feminine. From the entry: Cambridge University zoologist Charles Goodhart believed men have long preferred the "hairless trait" in women, ever since the existence of the "hairless trait" occurred in our hairy forebears 70,000–120,000 years ago during the last episode of global warming. Goodhar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 08:33 PM
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I don't know why they use "punching Morpheus" as some sort of third option in the Matrix pill metaphor. In the metaphor, punching Morpheus and taking the blue pill are functionally identical.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 04:18 PM
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I think that saying "we don't know" regarding what works in the mating game isn't a credible response, but in general, there are plenty of situations where "we don't know" is a valid argument. It's specific vs general.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 04:10 PM
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But they don't know if it's viruses, bacteria, environmental toxins, drugs, etc. In my example though, you're right that they would probably be implying a western-medicine (materialist) explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 02:43 AM
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when you come to a debate an issue, you can't expect to win by saying "all your ideas suck, but I've got nothing better." Disagree. If at some point during the early Zika crisis (when no one knew why the babies had small heads) some dude said "the mothers' energy chakras are unbalanced" people would be justified in saying "we don't know yet, but that's definitely stupid".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 02:13 AM
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How ripped are we talking? As ripped as the guys in fitness mags?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 09:06 PM
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From what I've noticed, the men lauding the boys for sleeping with adult women and the members of men's rights groups are almost entirely separate groups of men (off-line, at least).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 10:06 PM
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I would agree, and it's one thing that I really wish men's rights groups would focus on. Are you sure men's rights groups don't already? Every MRA I've talked to IRL has considered this disparity a big problem (though they see support for male domestic violence victims as the biggest priority).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 09:43 PM
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You're forgetting that she insulted being "ethnic" too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 06:14 PM
2

Trump is a Republican now. He got elected by Republicans. Trump wouldn't have stood a chance if he had run as a Democrat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 09:32 PM
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A huge chunk of atheists think Islam is more violent than Christianity. Christopher Hitchens is very popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 09:28 PM
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I came from a post-socialist shithole, and I have no desire to live in one again. I'd support Trump, period. Trump is more likely than any other candidate to turn our country into an economic shithole. He's an authoritarian protectionist, like Juan Peron in Argentina or Hugo Chavez in Venezuela. He's expressed desires to force companies to keep open factories in the US and doesn't seem to understand what a trade deficit is. And while I see no moral or ethical problems with keeping illegal immigr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 09:23 PM
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Bear in mind that under the Clintons, Black men were thrown in jail in a completely unjustified and excessive manner, largely to be farmed out as slave labour. Blacks disproportionately support the Clintons, because their policies largely helped the black demographic as a whole. What is it that Trump has done which is racist? He curried favor with white supremacists by giving a non-committal answer about whether he disavows the KKK and white supremacists.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 08:53 PM
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There are levels of racism below "lynch black teenagers who don't doff their caps for white people", you know. And having black friends is common among racists - there are people who think that most blacks suck except their friends and maybe a few others.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 08:43 PM
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There's exactly one non-racist response to whether or not you disavow white supremacists, and "I don't know enough, I need more information" and a disavowal several hours later isn't the correct answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 06:07 PM
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Regarding TRP as a whole, I agree that it prioritizes lifting too heavily over other forms of exercise. However, at the same time, not all forms of fitness are equally attractive in general. For instance, for most women, a swimmer's body is more attractive than a marathon runner's body. And lifting, even a little bit, is one of the most effective and quickest ways to develop the kind of muscle tone that is attractive to a very wide swath of women across all demographics.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 04:51 PM
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You don't need to lift obsessively to get women. I didn't see /u/wordjedi say anything about obsession. Learn the five compound lifts and clean up your diet? How is that life-consuming?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 04:50 AM
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Supernatural power of attraction over half of the adult population? Helllloooo world domination!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 03:07 AM
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100 million - million is abbreviated as mm for some reason in certain fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 03:05 AM
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Non-participation links, archives and all that shit. Transparent lie. I'm looking at /r/TheBluePill right now, and I see loads of direct reddit.com links without np tags.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 02:54 AM
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Don't you make fun of the Trump subreddits?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 11:17 PM
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I don't believe that's true, given that you said this: TRP is entwined with the manosphere. The differences between facets are splitting hairs. Unlike what I said, which allows for both commonalities and substantive disagreements within feminism, you don't seem to regard disagreements between different camps of the manosphere as having any meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 11:14 PM
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off-topic thread Is sincere support for Trump ever on-topic and upvoted (or at the very least not downvoted)?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 10:43 PM
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Do you think of feminism as a whole entity? Because I'm a little tired of being smugly asked to answer for things that angry 14 year olds on tumblr say. I view feminism based on points of general agreement (or points which go internally unchallenged) between public feminist academians, activists, writers, and other such figures who enjoy organized feminist support. I do notice you're trying to put words in my mouth, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 10:42 PM
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Lots of people with different beliefs and ideologies visit TBP. We've got blue-haired feminazis and MAGA-spouting Trump supporters. Are you joking? Donald Trump and his supporters are widely mocked on TBP. The problem with your claim is that many TBPers call groups they don't like "TRP in all but name" or "basically the same thing as TRP" or something similar, and when you examine these groups that TBPers claim to be crypto-TRP, most if not all of them have substantial disagreements with modern …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 10:22 PM
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TRP is entwined with the manosphere. The differences between facets are splitting hairs. This is like a New-Ager saying "Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are all basically the same religion; there are no important differences," ignoring the vast differences in philosophy and theology despite their common origins. Treating fundamental schisms among groups you don't like as irrelevant is either ignorance (willful or unwillful) or bad-faith agenda-driven posturing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 10:01 PM
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That's my point - in practice, TBP has positions beyond being "anti Red Pill". Viewing people as "alpha" or "beta" extends far beyond TRP, including to groups that despise TRP just as much as TBP does. TBP isn't just criticism of TRP - it's fundamentally feminist criticism of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 05:29 PM
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That is nothing like what Blue Pill means on Reddit. Because Blue Pill is essentially feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 05:05 PM
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TBP members usually describe TBP as a whole as "not holding any ideology, besides being anti-Red-Pill". Rodger, who disagreed with TRP positions on a fundamental level, would have fit right in at TBP... unless TBP's "no ideology" claim is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 05:02 PM
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TBP members usually describe TBP as a whole as "not holding any ideology, besides being anti-Red-Pill". Rodger, who disagreed with TRP positions on a fundamental level, would have fit right in at TBP... unless TBP's "no ideology" claim is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 04:49 PM
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It's "microcosm", not "micro-chasm".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 10:17 PM
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Everyone holds back to some degree. Not disclosing every bit of information about your emotional state up front is not the same as lying. You can hold back emotions and still not be manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 06:05 PM
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Hillary only took so long to accept gay marriage after most liberals did because she's a devout Methodist. She's definitely a Christian because she believes in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 07:13 PM
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Written erotica isn't really popular with men, I don't think - I believe women consume more of it than men (stop me if I'm wrong). Also, what makes 50shades an "improbable virgin"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 02:46 AM
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You're changing the subject. The argument was not at all about who punishes vulnerability more - it was about whether men get punished by women for showing a reasonable amount of vulnerability often enough that men see it as a credible risk. And that link corroborated my side of the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 02:35 AM
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I'm calling it like I see it. If you claim to be a fantastic businessman, you should at least outperform the market for it to be true. Edit: He started with way more than 10mil, and he definitely doesn't have 10bil - he bases his claims of his net worth on his feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 02:28 AM
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Body language isn't black-and-white. Sometimes a man will approach a woman who doesn't want to be approached, and that's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 06:04 PM
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"Capacity for violence exceeding the norm" isn't enough - they have to be at least antisocial/morally ambiguous, if not slightly evil. Asterix the Gaul routinely beats the shit out of people, but there's nothing "bad" about him. I've frequented some BDSM circles, and the male doms always outnumber the male subs. Subs + switches sometimes outnumber doms, but not often, and never by much. Femdom is common, but not "absurdly popular", especially not the heavy masochism/humiliation stuff. I think yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 05:48 PM
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What's "bad" about her? All I'm seeing is "androgynous".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 05:34 PM
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Have a look at this thread from a few weeks ago and tell me where all of these fabled "severe psychological issues" and "massive incurable insecurity breakdowns" are. You're coming up with fantasies to avoid the realization that plenty of men open up in moderate ways to their partners and get punished for doing so (even if some women react positively).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 04:49 PM
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He started with a huge inheritance (at least tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions) from his parents, not to mention the financial assistance he got from them when they were alive, yet he's had a mediocre return on the capital he started out with, either slightly beating or underperforming the overall market depending on how you calculate it. He's not a terrible businessman, but he's not an excellent one either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 04:19 PM
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He's not a very good businessman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 02:34 AM
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I don't think most RPers would disagree with your first three paragraphs. It's a lot more reasonable than most feminist views on the subject (i.e. viewing men not sharing their emotions as being fundamentally unhealthy). The main complaint I see on Reddit about vulnerability is that the same women who press men to show vulnerability react negatively when the men in question actually do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 10:27 PM
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See, this is your problem. In your mind the only options are "handle emotions like a woman" or "get angry, drink up and kill people".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 07:28 PM
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I don't think this would be heavily downvoted on TRP, just unpopular, but here goes: Not everyone has to lift heavy three times a week. Sure, it's good exercise, but you can also lift once a week with medium weights and stay active in other ways and get along fine, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 04:07 AM
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Or they can see, accurately, that the men are handling it and that there's no slack to pick up. That's a heavy woman who just fainted. It's better for men to help rather than women in this scenario. Men are more capable here, and these women know it.
/r/TheRedPill03/05/16 07:38 PM
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Did not know that, subscribed (I'm a former fatty myself).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 01:01 AM
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"Dating advice" includes how to get laid for all but the avowedly abstinent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 10:13 PM
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japanese girl with mega ass is definitely dating neurotypical guy though Talented autistic men can play the "quirky creative genius" angle if they can figure it out. There are some very hot women who love it. Also, there are some straight-up handsome autistic men out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 03:15 PM
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That's how I read Archwinger's comment, but not PemBayliss's follow-up: Or they are somewhere on the autism spectrum. They just cannot process information on human responses and reactions as it comes in. They don't interact with other human beings like "normal" people. I read that as applying to people on the autism spectrum generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 03:09 PM
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People on the autism spectrum are not "coming from zero-point socially" as a rule. Some know how to make friends due to explicit, detailed instruction tailored to people on the spectrum but don't know how to find romantic/sexual partners due to lack thereof. The skills are related but separate. I agree that people on the spectrum who can't socialize at all need to learn that first before learning about how to form a sexual partnership, but they're only a fraction of people on the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 02:01 AM
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A guy who's autistic-spectrum, can't meet people, serious issues socially, etc needs to avoid TRP for all that's holy. They must learn social skills from the ground up, and there's many many resources for that (Charisma on Command channel on YouTube is pretty good). This is an overly-reductive view of people on the autism spectrum. Many are intelligent people who need explicit, specific instruction on social minutiae to understand how to meet people, make friends, and find partners, but who can …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 01:41 AM
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Zan Perrion's advice ranges between cheesy dialogue/actions and generic fundamentals, as I recall it. My ability to connect with women took a big step back after I used his suggestions, and I had better outcomes when I dropped them completely. I suspect he coasted on his looks as a conventionally handsome dude and never realized how much he succeeded despite his words instead of because of them. In any case, a lot of what he considered generalizable actually wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 01:03 AM
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A private enterprise deciding how its assets are to be used is not employing censorship I disagree with this - while it may not violate the First Amendment of the US, private enterprise absolutely can engage in censorship. For instance, if all of the major news media organizations of a region agreed to delete every comment, letter, and article referring to a specific political candidate, it would be censorship, regardless of whether or not the government was involved. Reddit may not be engaging …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 02:29 AM
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Barney's treated like a loser in the show. He has many sexual encounters only because he hits on basically everyone - the group figures out that he only sleeps with about 1% of the women he hits on. (Spoilers) He has no emotional stability and cries all the time (and tries to kill himself once), he self-sabotages every relationship he actually wants, and his life basically goes to shit once he leaves his job in the finale (because as a professional fall guy for his entire adult life to that poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 02:52 AM
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How To Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie is a good start. It's not for flirting, but works well for getting people to have at least a mildly positive view of you. A lot of conversation isn't about information exchange so much as it is about establishing common social ground.
/r/TheRedPill23/04/16 09:22 PM
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Melee is perfectly welcoming if everyone has roughly the same skill level.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 03:53 PM
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IMO fetishizing "turn the other cheek" and saying you're morally obligated to help others even when they're doing you harm, but invoking it as a sort of general/fundamental morality without reference to a supreme being.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 01:12 AM
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I'm talking about people with legitimately different opinions coming to discuss them. I think subreddits should be able to enforce a set of clearly-labeled ground principles that are not up for debate to prevent endless back-and-forth with outsiders over basics. For instance, I wouldn't call it "censorship" if a console gaming subreddit banned PC gamers from coming in and posting arguments about why PCs are superior to consoles. Similarly, I have no problem with subs for religious denominations …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 09:48 PM
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I've never heard anyone claim lesbians are slutty IME. From my LGBT friends, though, I hear that some lesbians claim that bi girls are slutty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 11:21 PM
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In America, in the region where I live, the vast majority of single women are of a different race than myself. I'm not going to restrict myself to the tiny fraction of single Indian-American women. The biggest demographic in my social circles by far is white women, followed distantly by Asians (usually Chinese-Americans) and blacks. Edit: Also, "overwriting my race" is not a thing, and recessive alleles don't work that way.
/r/askTRP19/04/16 05:33 PM
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Dark coloured-lips and prominent eyebrows aren't fertility cues Right, they're exaggerations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 03:53 PM
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Works the same for humans, more or less. Makeup simulates and exaggerates fertility cues like full lips and eyebrows.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 01:39 AM
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Yep, they're supernormal stimuli. "[Tinbergen] experimented with dummy plaster eggs of various sizes and markings finding that most birds preferred ones with more exaggerated markings than their own, more saturated versions of their color, and a larger size than their own. Small songbirds which laid light blue grey-dappled eggs preferred to sit on a bright blue black polka-dotted dummy so large they slid off repeatedly. Territorial male stickleback fish would attack wooden floats with red unders…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 09:31 PM
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I'm surprised he didn't challenge either the central Red Pill metaphor (men get fed lies about dating in the modern world) or the effectiveness of TRP's advice for getting laid.
/r/TheRedPill15/04/16 04:38 AM
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This article is surprisingly positive. He doesn't challenge the Red Pill metaphor (that a large number of men only got dating advice that doesn't match dating reality at all) or TRP's effectiveness at getting men laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 03:00 AM
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"Give me your wallet" is a zero-sum demand – one person gains, the author loses. "Let's have sex" is usually mutually beneficial (at least in terms of intent). No such thing as a consensual robbery, but there is a such thing as consensual sex. Asking for sex when you are bigger than the other person and the two of you are alone in your apartment is not a threat of force.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 04:01 PM
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I disagree, it seems like he's willing to give some of the suggestions a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 02:43 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/1p2cki/how_scientifically_valid_is_the_myers_briggs Given the low decision consistency, and given that claims the Myers-Briggs makes about about your personality(validity information) depends on the decisions made by the test to be consistent and not subject to change simply based on retesting, it is highly unlikely that there can be a solid validity argument supporting the Myers-Briggs as a personality indicator.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 07:57 PM
2

You don't need to spend top dollar. Low-to-medium dollar works for almost everyone but the most ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 06:51 PM
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/r/skincareaddiction /r/malefashionadvice (think "good" rather than "optimal" style, as there are a lot of trivial details) Lift weights three times a week, stretch daily, walk around every so often during the day, eat whole foods and not too many sweets.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 06:37 PM
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Depends on the kind of woodworking, I suppose. Sculpture > furniture building, for example. Basically, the more scope for demonstrating creativity/imagination, the better, in general. Edit: I'd say singing/songwriting and dance are good. Anything where you can perform/exhibit your work is a huge benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 06:29 PM
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If you demonstrate skill in the arts (and bonus points if you're physically attractive), you come across as less "socially dysfunctional" and more "troubled genius". I know one autistic guy who used that to his advantage, as it seems there's a class of women who eat that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 04:44 PM
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Maybe this is a rarity, but one of the few openly gender-fluid people I knew would switch between wanting to be referred to as male or female almost from day-to-day and would get upset if we slipped up with pronouns. (The others were a lot more chill and went by "they"). I suppose I'm fine with it as long as they don't expect other people to keep up with frequent, unpredictable changes in identity and presentation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 04:05 AM
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Even India isn't much of a patriarchy anymore. I'm Indian-American, so I don't have direct experience, but doesn't it vary from state to state?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 03:41 AM
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And what's the issue with someone being gender fluid? Just call someone what they want to be called. Eh, I'm against it when people insist on esoteric pronouns (the singular "they" already exists for non-binary people), and I don't acknowledge rapidly-changing gender identity as a real thing (i.e. people who claim that they can be male one week and female the next and so on back and forth).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 03:28 AM
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Young girls are too. But we're supposed to believe that only young boys are give life instruction by a cartoon that opens with a feud over a fashion podcast? You're attacking a position no one holds. No one here is arguing young girls don't get life advice from cartoons. It's completely off-topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 10:21 PM
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"just be yourself" doesn't exist in a vacuum. You're right - I also got told, "Women who want good-looking/rich men are shallow and materialistic, and you shouldn't date them. Find a girl who doesn't care how you look [beyond keeping up with cleanliness and hygiene], it'll bring you happiness in the long run, unlike dating the shallow fake women." That one was really hammered in. It exists alongside of other life advice like "get a (social) life", "sports are healthy" [...] I got "get a social l…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 07:36 PM
1

Tattoos, leather jackets, and motorbikes are expensive. Not sports-car expensive, but definitely not cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 04:12 PM
1

Get into any depth about your passion as a software engineer, and non-engineers won't be able to follow the conversation at all (regardless of intelligence - they need background knowledge).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 03:17 AM
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The important point here is that "I work as a software engineer" and wearing poorly-fitted, out-of-style clothes are analogous to a significant fraction of women, but a much lower fraction of them will actually admit that if asked directly "Do you think being a software engineer is as unattractive as wearing shitty clothing?".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 01:36 AM
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Not really. "Arab" was being used as an insult, and if he had used "Middle Easterner" it wouldn't have been any different (except sillier-sounding, in this situation).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 04:43 AM
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Side note: if the target isn't anti-gay the insult wouldn't be an insult. I was once called a "filthy Arab". I'm not an Arab, and I don't have anything against them as a group, but it's clear that the speaker was insulting me and didn't like Arabs. Your reasoning doesn't work here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 04:30 AM
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For it to be irony and comeuppance, you'd need (a.) the target to be attacking gay people himself, and then (b.) it turns out that the target is actually gay himself. (a.) barely applies, as there are indeed some anti-gay TRPs, but it's not in the TRP ideology to be anti-gay (stop me if I'm wrong there). (b.) doesn't apply at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 04:09 AM
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I don't buy this. I don't make fun of Muslim militants by calling them secret atheists, and I don't make fun of Ted Cruz by calling him a liberal. Making fun of someone's assumed homosexuality reveals the speaker's negative views on homosexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 04:06 AM
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Personally, the extreme level of vainness they can have (pampering and priming, huge effort put into looks) always struck me as gay. Sounds like prescribing gender roles to me. I thought BPers hated that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 03:53 AM
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It's like finding out a radically conservative senator tried to get a BJ in a public bathroom. That's funny because of irony and comeuppance more so than gayness, like the KKK leader who ended up being a quarter black. In this scenario the gayness itself is being directly mocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 03:52 AM
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It's likely trading on the idea that gay=unmasculine in order to hit RPers where it hurts, which could be interpreted as homophobic, though the obvious response to that would be that the OP could well have been playing on perceived homophobia on TRP's part rather than speaking from his own perspective. Do you think TRP is homophobic/anti-gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 03:05 AM
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We are saying that TRP posts have gay undertones, and we like to laugh about it. But then why are gay undertones are worthy of being laughed at? And what gay undertones, specifically? (I believe I know what they are, but I want to hear from BPers).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 02:27 AM
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It's illegal in a lot of places, with criminal and social penalties for being caught, even if no one is hurt. For most people, it's too expensive to visit a sex worker regularly. It would cost thousands of dollars a month to match the amount of sex a regular couple would have. For people who aren't asexual, validation of one's sexual worth is an important part of general life satisfaction. Paying someone for sex probably doesn't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 09:37 PM
1

I want to see some bizarre non-humanoid sexbots. Four-legged, tank-shaped, multiple-dicked-and-vagged sexbots.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 07:22 PM
0

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 07:04 PM
1

What do you RP women/wives think of /r/fPUA?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 05:23 PM
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I don't get why insecurity is seen as an automatically bad thing. Like physical pain, it's usually a sign that something is wrong and that corrective action should be taken. Also like physical pain, sometimes it should be accepted and moved past (e.g. post-workout muscle soreness), but most of the time insecurity is a signal that your situation is, indeed, not secure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 07:15 PM
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All of that spearheaded by feminists. This is what I'm not convinced of. The debate about mandatory women's draft registration is indeed happening now, but you haven't shown me that it's feminists spearheading it. If they are indeed taking such an active, forefront role, it should be easy to find the "phone bank and official press releases" (i.e. measurable, observable commitment) you mock. I'm a reasonable person, and I'm swayed by evidence. But you've got nothing so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 05:14 PM
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You haven't given me a single one. I had a feeling you'd accuse me of goalpost-moving at some point, so here's a direct quote from my unedited post 22 hours ago: I just want to see some evidence that in recent years (not 35 years ago) feminist organizations are allocating resources to achieve either women's draft inclusion (i.e. requiring all women 18-26 to sign up for selective service under penalty of law, in America) or formal draft abolishment. As you can see, goalposts are exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 05:01 PM
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I'm not looking for a "unified" feminist push, I'm looking for any feminist push at all for mandatory women's draft registration.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 04:57 PM
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If that's not action, what is? Lobbying to lawmakers to require women to sign up for the draft Running advertisements which push for mandatory women's draft registration and attempt to convince voters to support legislators who favor it Organizing rallies and volunteer groups to push for mandatory draft registration legislation Phone banking and petitioning to convince voters and legislators to mandate draft registration for young women Organizing and fielding candidates for public debates about…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 04:45 PM
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It's actually not, when women in combat roles is a fight that was fought with all intentions of opening the draft to women. Intentions mean nothing when there's no action. But the fact is, you don't want to see it. You want to put your fingers in your ears and scream that feminists aren't helping you out. See what? I'm here listening with an open mind. I've been asking one question consistently for about 24 hours now, and you've been giving me irrelevant links and acting like you've won.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 04:29 PM
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Nah, you just don't want to admit that they've done stuff. I'm not looking for "stuff", I'm looking for recent (let's say last 5 years or so, to be generous) feminists or feminist organizations committing resources to accomplishing either 1. mandatory draft registration for women ages 18-25 (as men are currently mandated) or 2. formal abolishment of the draft (which means ending mandatory selective service registration here in America). Feeding me "stuff" about women volunteer soldiers and women…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 04:08 PM
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That's not the same thing as pushing for mandatory draft registration for women! You keep giving me these barely-tangential bits of information as if that's what I've been asking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 03:54 PM
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Again, I'm looking for feminists or feminist orgs, not newspaper editorial boards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 10:55 PM
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Feminists added a portion to the Equal Rights Amendment that would have opened the draft to women. It got defeated. Again, decades ago. Can't point to that forever and still have it be relevant. Edit: would it have just allowed women the option to sign up for the draft, or would it have compelled women to register as men currently are compelled? Also, why is this 100% on feminists shoulders? It's not, but the topic of this thread is how much feminists and feminism actually care about requiring w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 09:02 PM
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What's the point of fighting if the lawmakers aren't going to do anything about it? Keep fighting, and when it gets loud enough lawmakers won't be able to ignore it. Feminists [...] have all made it clear that this is something we should do. Which recent feminists? In what ways have they made it clear? So far I've seen a 35-year-old newsletter and a recent article about support from military leadership, not feminist organizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 08:01 PM
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I'm not cranky, I just want to see some evidence that in recent years (not 35 years ago) feminist organizations are allocating resources to achieve either women's draft inclusion (i.e. requiring all women 18-26 to sign up for selective service under penalty of law, in America) or formal draft abolishment. That article doesn't mention any feminist organizations or lobbying groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 06:31 PM
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The professional standing army, in the US's case.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 06:05 PM
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"Officially support" and "actively fight for" aren't synonymous. The former is slacktivism/lip service if it's on position papers but relegated to the sidelines.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 06:03 PM
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That's over 35 years old. It counts, historically speaking, but it doesn't reflect today's politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 05:36 PM
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I don't go about pretending I'm making a difference on things I've never campaigned about. My previous list was not exhaustive. It's hypocritical for a feminist to claim to care about abolishing the draft for all genders permanently but never take any concrete steps to make that specifically happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 04:32 PM
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Local education Healthcare issues Taxation and budgeting Electronic privacy Nuclear power (pro) - less often than the others I also donate to Doctors Without Borders and Oxfam every month.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 04:10 PM
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If you don't put in even a little effort to campaign for something, how can you claim it's important to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 03:45 PM
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I don't campaign on ending world hunger, but that doesn't mean I don't care about starving orphans. If you're not at the very least donating money to organizations with a track record of helping, you don't care in any meaningful way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 03:44 PM
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It definitely shows whether or not you actually care about a certain issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 02:33 PM
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It doesn't take that long to write and mail some letters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 02:09 PM
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Correct. Democracy has responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 12:56 PM
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When you seduce a woman, you get little soft no's all the fucking time. This I don't understand. I've had several one-night-stands and flings and I've never gotten a single soft-no by the time we were alone together in my/her room. I've gotten either hard-no's (where the woman immediately left once I made my move) or no resistance. I've gotten soft-no's before, but well before the "last minute".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 02:19 AM
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As for the "I'm against the draft in all forms" - that is a legit position imo. It's only legit if the person holding that position has personally campaigned to formally end the draft (i.e. writing letters to their representatives or circulating petitions and organizing for anti-draft influence with fellow signers). Lip service doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 10:49 PM
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But both can give you a prostate orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 08:53 PM
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Prostate orgasms are really fun, so yeah, more men should try it out. You're arguing something tangentially related to OP's post. You can get prostate orgasms without having your gf wear a plastic penis and fuck your ass. She can use a finger, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 07:36 PM
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I think that blowjobs require at least as much trust as pegging. You're trusting someone to not hurt your dick with their teeth, accidentally or intentionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 04:37 PM
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Pegging is kind of gay (gay-ish, if you will). There's nothing wrong with gay sex acts, of course, but that's the reason why I'm personally turned off by the thought of it and never want to try it. A woman attaching a simulacrum of a penis to her crotch and fucking a dude's ass is a simulation of gay sex. If a sex act requires a woman to strap on a plastic dick to work, it's kind of gay. Note that this doesn't apply to all ass play for dudes (e.g. fingers).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 04:32 PM
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He doesn't command respect from everyone, not even close. He has the highest unfavorability rating of all the candidates. He hasn't even won a state Republican majority yet (whereas Cruz has).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 03:27 AM
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Men don't rape women because they pedestalize them. Men rape women because no woman wants to fuck them. If men are awesome, successful, confident, and get laid willingly on a regular basis, they don't rape anybody. That's definitely not true. Some guys just like rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 05:28 PM
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That basically sums up TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 08:55 PM
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I mostly agree with you, but Naked is bad for weight loss. So much sugar (and it being fruit juice doesn't make it better).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 04:13 PM
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Exactly. I had people telling me for years that my then-fatness was just fine. It wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 04:10 PM
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Why help men, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 09:29 PM
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[W]hy are you going to the internet for advice on anything? What's wrong with going to the internet for advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 08:49 PM
1

Those are ass implants, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 10:34 PM
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I see two mistakes you're making: "Tingles" and orgasm are not synonymous. The former has to do more with lust, passion, and desire, and it seems that this Marcus awakened little or none of that in you. I'm not a red pill, but I believe the distinction between "alpha" and "beta" rests on whether a person is able to exert their will to influence their environment and relationships to their benefit, rather than being buffeted by outside forces. Being able to give oral orgasms isn't alpha if it isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 05:52 AM
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To me it sounds like OP was talking about learning from rejection, not getting over rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 12:02 AM
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I agree, but I still think it's a much more accurate summation of the expanded advice, even if it's not self-explanatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 11:54 PM
2

"Don't lock yourself in"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 10:47 PM
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The unfortunate mixup in what DGAF means is what sinks it. The real point behind DGAF is not to be some sneering asshole nor is it to be a wallflower. It's to not be more emotionally invested in the matter than she is. That's all. To me, that sounds like all the people who say "be yourself" actually means "have interesting hobbies, work on your fitness, and talk to people more". There are far more accurate summations of the actual advice in both cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 10:42 PM
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The clock tower shooter had a massive brain tumor – he wasn't politically motivated.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 06:27 PM
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In college, I could definitely put a lower bound on some girls' N-count, because I saw them at social gatherings hooking up with different people. I'm sure people acquainted with me could say the same about me. The worst starfish-girl I encountered was also the most openly promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 04:43 AM
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For everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 07:10 PM
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It's better than the red pill and very good overall, but it's not as good as it could be. I think the problem I mentioned is one that takes a lot of time/trial-and-error for a reader to work out on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 05:03 PM
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The related concepts of "polarization" and "fuck yes or no". Ambiguity and plausible deniability are critical parts of the flirting process, and attempting to get them over with quickly leads to compatible women rejecting you when they otherwise would not have given more time to let feelings develop, in my experience. Overall it's a good book, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 04:48 PM
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Because it's not a major problem, at least in America. The numbers of men and women are roughly the same, and realistically speaking most men and women of slightly below average attractiveness and above will be able to find some partner, given the right advice and reasonable effort. However, it's a huge issue in places like China and the Middle East, where large excesses of men who will never be able to find a partner lead to civil unrest/violence. I do think legalizing prostitution would be a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 05:44 PM
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Except it's not a basic requirement at all. I know several men who regularly sleep with hot girls whom I wouldn't describe as "nice". I do know other men who are "nice" who also regularly sleep with hot girls. Niceness just doesn't seem to be a factor at all, from what I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 07:05 PM
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Women are now inundated with messages - either overt or covert - that just being cute and wanting to fuck your partner is "lame" or "boring" and simply "not enough". I don't think that's because of porn - that's because the internet lets people talk to each other anonymously now, in great volume. Now that men know what level of sexual performance other men get from their partners, they don't want to settle for less. The reverse is also true (women's expectations from men have increased).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 07:09 PM
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Subjective doesn't mean unpredictable, though. Some women like bearded men, while others prefer clean-shaven men. Some women like fit men, while others like obese men. However, if you take a random woman, it would be hard to guess whether she likes beards or not, but it would be overwhelmingly likely that she prefers fitness to obesity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 05:56 PM
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That's a whole lot of PUA stuff. Double Your Dating is PUA, and Neil Strauss wrote about it in The Game.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 04:26 PM
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injecting a bit of cockiness in your personality and not being a doormat nice guy works. I never saw a single mainstream source of dating advice for men admit this until around 2007. Before that, they all vigorously denied it. Many still do. I chalk it up to PUA hitting the mainstream and generating success for its practitioners in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 03:17 AM
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They don't say "white" anywhere in that thread. What are you on about?
/r/TheRedPill14/11/15 04:12 AM
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I disagree with section 9d for Indians – on average, I've noticed that white girls are just as receptive to me as Asian and Hispanic girls are. I don’t get much interest from black girls.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/15 06:55 PM
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I think, though, that the context here is strongly implied to be the "first world", and probably America in particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 04:34 AM
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It's different for men and women because women pose no physical threat to us. That just isn't true. Humans can use clubs, knives, and guns. Yeah, a woman poses little threat to a man if he sees her attacks coming, but if his back is turned she can badly wound him before he has chance to react. Taking a strange woman to bed is definitely less risky than taking a strange man to bed, but both options involve exposing oneself to a non-negligible degree of risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 04:34 PM
1

What do you mean, "in the primary"? The primaries haven't happened yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 01:52 AM
1

No car lovers? Why this hobby in particular? It's the only hobby on your list.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 01:38 AM
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I did. Kept my lost weight off for well over 5 years, getting close to 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 04:08 PM
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I consider myself very fit. I do yoga seven days a week and lift weights three days a week. I'm satisfied with my body. Pill-wise, I'm not red or blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 10:55 PM
4

You also have to be good at flirting, which isn't self-explanatory (even for confident, attractive men).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 09:08 PM
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Dude, I'm an atheist, but I don't go to r/Christianity and post "The Resurrection is a fairytale, y'all!". I'm not a part of the community and the sub doesn't revolve around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 08:22 PM
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Households, especially those with kids, spend far more than single people. It costs a lot of money to raise children. Adult singles have far fewer obligations and don't need to buy as many things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 11:02 PM
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The reality is that it exists because most men have uncritically swallowed the largely corporate-driven propaganda that your ‘laycount’ is central to your estimation of yourself as a man, and your status in the eyes of others. I know people won’t want to face up to this, but taking TRP in The Matrix means facing reality, not attaching yourself to a new set of misguided beliefs. You had me until there. I agree that men need female validation (in general), but unlike you I don't see a problem with…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 10:24 PM
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http://orange-is-the-new-black.wikia.com/wiki/Katya_Healy I think either Red knows Ukrainian or Mrs. Healy knows Russian, and anyway the two languages are pretty similar. I thought it was ambiguous whether Mrs. Healy spoke Ukrainian/Russian to keep her husband out of the loop or whether her English was very limited, but I guess most evidence points to the latter. Although I wouldn't say Mr. Healy turns out "okay"…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 04:43 AM
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Even in the end, the book treats a lot of the alter ego's views sympathetically. The quote about being among a generation of men raised by women, and the negative effects he sees as a result, are never really challenged. The "tear society down" stuff is challenged, but the "masculinity is gradually being viewed more and more negatively, and this is not a good thing" stuff is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 03:54 AM
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She does speak English, and I think she's Ukrainian. Also, her corrections officer husband is a hilariously pathetic loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 03:44 AM
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Except there's barely anything here about how to take a good photo of yourself. Lighting, body position, postprocessing, virtually nothing of substance. It's about taking photos of things other than yourself.
/r/TheRedPill24/10/15 01:28 AM
2

I get tired of having to explain that people can deeply enjoy sex and have frequent great sex, while still having only a few different partners (i.e. low single digits) over their lifetimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 03:14 PM
2

I disagree, Mark Manson for instance has generally good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 01:34 AM
1

I'd say it also works if you already have a lot of attractive qualities but suck at flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 01:30 AM
3

Fandom and collection aren't necessarily "passive", though – there are ways to invest effort to get more results, like a bigger collection or more trivia knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 10:03 PM
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But you can work hard at and show dedication to things like birdwatching and trivia. They aren't necessarily "passive" or lazy – there are ways to invest effort and get results, like being able to identify more types of birds or hold more trivia in memory.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 10:02 PM
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I'm not disagreeing with that first statement, just the assertion that all hobbies are similarly attractive in general when carried out with energy and passion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 09:36 PM
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confidently assert yourself in the dating market. TRP and non-RP sources differ enormously on the implementation details here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 01:49 AM
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I haven't noticed any major differences between the interests of my gay, bisexual, and straight female friends. (aside from the ones involving who they like to bang)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 05:54 PM
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Most TRPers don't see the purpose of being friends with straight women. Yeah, and those people also don't see the purpose of being friends with gay women either. My point is that saying "seek out lesbians" doesn't really serve any purpose that "seek out female friends who almost certainly will not sleep with you, of any orientation" doesn't already.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 04:45 PM
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I don't know why you need lesbians for that. Girls in committed relationships (especially where you're also friends with their partners) also fit those criteria, and some lesbians sometimes sleep with guys. I personally know two lesbians who have slept with men even while identifying as lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 04:09 AM
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He doesn't have to remember them all, just a running count. Shouldn't be too difficult for someone of average intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 04:02 AM
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/u/HailTheHolyCatloaf is an 8, she (he?) seems like a fun person to hang out with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 05:50 PM
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I'm pretty sure Emma and Daisy were meant to be either mostly unsympathetic or entirely so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:23 PM
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I dislike it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:18 PM
1

TBP is plenty racist as well, they're just better at hiding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 02:48 PM
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"Common Sense Pill" is meant to be ironic. Way too often, people call their positions "common sense" to try to avoid having to defend their reasoning or to imply that their positions are somehow unbiased, objective, and obviously correct when they are anything but.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 07:11 PM
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Take some classes, gym it up, work on self-improvement, play music with other people, get a dog to take for walks. There's so much more to it than that though. You've completely glossed over everything besides being attractive in a general, on-paper sort of way and finding women to interact with. Learning how to flirt and turn friendly interaction into physical interaction isn't self-explanatory, and people can spend months or years in unnecessary trial-and-error trying to "reinvent the wheel" o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 11:37 PM
1

Which ones? I've heard of 10+ wounded but not 10+ killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 04:15 PM
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That's not the point. The problem is that "virgin" is used as an insult. It's blatantly hypocritical for a group that claims to be against virgin-shaming, and I've never seen it called out by another member of TBP in direct response to a use of "virgin" as an insult. Also, I don't subscribe to TRP philosophy, it's right in my flair that I'm not TRP. There's a lot of poor understanding of women's anatomy on TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 04:13 PM
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Well, it's been happening since long before the Internet, based on a few people I know, so I would say a combination of exaggerated rumors from other dudes who want to sound cooler than they are (yes, I'm including many PUA types here) and misguided internal social logic. There could be other factors too, but really this is all just speculation. SomeInternet sites may be sources of misinformation, but they're hardly the only ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 05:12 AM
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I haven't heard this. What's your source?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 04:47 AM
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Discussing root factors of violence (even if incorrect) isn't the same as absolving the perpetrators of violence. Like, not even remotely. I have no idea how you even made that leap. That would be like me saying "discrimination and real estate redlining against black Americans led to systemic poverty, providing a fertile breeding ground for gangs to develop" and then someone else saying "so according to you, violent criminals can't ever be held responsible if they are black?". It's just totally …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 04:42 AM
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The use of "virgin" as an insult on TBP is very common. It's one of their more prominent hypocrisies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 04:29 AM
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You ever hear the phrase "it seemed like a good idea at the time"? Some dudes legitimately think that taking sexual photographs of a girl on their first date is attractive. That's why "be yourself" isn't going to help without a whole lot of extra detail and nuance explicitly spelled out for them – the people who need the most help are almost guaranteed not to have the social skills to interpret it in a helpful manner and instead double down on their socially inappropriate behaviors. These people…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 04:23 AM
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Yep. In fairness to them, though, the mass stabbings are much less deadly. Then again, all you have to defend yourself with is a knife.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 04:04 AM
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Same thing in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 10:42 PM
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Secondly? One of the most gender neutral societies in the world is Finland. Who manage to do without stupid murders like this. Don't move the goal posts on me. You argued that gender-neutral societies like Finland "do without stupid murders like this", which is 100% false as I've just demonstrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 10:38 PM
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Okay, four things: You're pulling those numbers out of thin air with no grounding whatsoever in reality. Correlation is not causation. "if you had limited mental health resources, you would be wise to spend more of them on that 10%" – this doesn't reflect how mental health spending works at all. For the love of god man, use capital letters at the beginnings of sentences.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 10:22 PM
2

What's the long version?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 10:16 PM
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And some people's reaction to the flu vaccine is life-threatening inflammation, anaphylactic shock, and death. Doesn't make the flu vaccine bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 10:14 PM
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Norway is culturally similar to Finland and has very restrictive gun laws, and they recently had a mass shooting where the death toll was much higher than that of any American shooting that I know of.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 10:06 PM
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Funny you mentioned 1927… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster. Farmer with bombs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 10:02 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 09:59 PM
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Buuuuuuut their worldview still inspires some people to kill. How, exactly? In terms of features that are common to both groups (TRP and PUAhate/R9K) and that inspire people to kill.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 09:46 PM
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i know that in general population samples people who self report as angry are far more likely to self report as depressed, unstable, having health problems, having suicidal ideation, and lots of other unhealthy behaviors. That's like saying that trained pilots are behind the controls in most plane crashes, as opposed to people with zero pilot training. Or that intelligent people are more likely to be successful cyber criminals than stupid people are. If one big group on a Venn diagram contains a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 09:44 PM
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Being angry isn't automatically pathological. You really have no idea how to use the DSM.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 08:58 PM
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They even use the same terminology (hypergamy, cock carousel, AFBB, Chad). I will say that TRP is different in that they don't suggest this kind of violence. TRP has repeatedly and explicitly discouraged and disavowed channeling rage into killing. Using the same terminology doesn't negate that. That's like saying most Christians are related to the Westboro Baptist Church because they use the same terminology.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 08:50 PM
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Connecting things to the Isla Vista shootings is the Godwin's Law/comparison-to-Hitler equivalent on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 08:44 PM
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If I recall right, another interesting fact is that people of high socio-economic status in couples have less sex with their partners, but more creativity when they do fuck. They are more likely to experiment and vary how it happens, while further down on the social hierarchy scale it tends to be more meat and potatoes, sex every day, like clockwork. So if your goal is to do freaky kinky things, you will probably have less sex overall, but if your goal is to ejaculate inside a woman daily, you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 11:10 PM
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What? Yeah, it's not the best it's ever been, but it absolutely crushes Greece's. Relative to the rest of the world right now, America's economy is really strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:09 AM
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When I watched Peter Pan as a kid, I remember getting really excited for reasons I couldn't quite put my finger on when Tinkerbell and Wendy got held captive and tied up. I knew I had a thing for bondage even before I developed a proper sex drive. I didn't even watch any porn until after I turned 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:36 AM
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What surname do the children get?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:42 AM
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They agreed that all girls would get her name (again, no hyphen), and all boys get his father's name. I think it's confusing at least, and possibly detrimental to a cohesive family identity, for siblings with the same parents to have different surnames. Even hyphenation would be better, IMO, and I find hyphenation aesthetically unpleasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 12:22 AM
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Louis XIV did say "I am the state!", which I think is close enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 08:53 PM
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I think the Matrix metaphor is accurate in that men get pervasive bad advice about dating based on wishful thinking and advice-givers' need to maintain their worldview of the dating world as a fair, just place. As a result, men are in many cases actively discouraged from analyzing their dating experiences too hard, because if they do, then they'll see through the just-world fallacy that much of the advice they get is based on. In this sense, I'm anti-blue pill. However, I'm okay with the general…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 02:30 AM
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Not Red Pill, but early/mid-2000s PUA. It made a dramatically positive difference. All I got in the way of advice before was useless platitudes, like "you'll find the right girl someday who likes you for who you are!" and "getting buff won't help you with girls, it's all about confidence!" and "you don't need to learn how to flirt, do what comes naturally and it will all work out in the end!". Going online and comparing notes with other guys opened my eyes to all the bullshit. Before, zero succe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 10:14 PM
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I've been involved in BDSM before, and from what I've seen, the women who are openly "laying out their shingles as promiscuous ladies" tend to be over 30, fat, unattractive, or some combination of those. The attractive promiscuous women in their 20s tend to be much more private about that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 05:03 PM
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One of the fundamental disconnects here is that you see anger as a burden, something that holds people back, whereas the red pills see it as a healthy emotion that spurs people on to better places, an important motivator.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 04:45 AM
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I'm pretty sure it's a sub to discover and share music of similar thematic content, not a "you must only listen to these songs or else be cast out forever!" list. Liking some types of music doesn't mean you have to stop listening to other types of music.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 01:49 AM
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and all purely north east asian societies have near zero violent crime Completely false.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 07:42 PM
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Hating someone and disqualifying them from your dating pool are completely different concepts. I don't date people decades older than me, but it doesn't mean I hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 05:28 PM
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When you change for you, its more likely to stick because you can validate yourself. That's the complete opposite of what I said. I changed myself specifically to attract more and hotter women, and those changes have stuck for well over five years now. "Do it for yourself, never do it for women" is bad advice. I became much happier and more fulfilled once I started making changes in my life specifically geared to attracting more and hotter women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 03:14 PM
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To clarify – I developed a lean and muscled body and improved my personal style specifically to get more romantic attention from women, not "for myself". Despite that, the changes have stuck to this day (which is well over five years) and I have a significantly more fulfilling life. I have no problem being pudgy and wearing comfortable but boring clothes – those changes weren't "for myself" in any way whatsoever beyond the satisfaction I got from attracting more and hotter girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 03:07 PM
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To clarify – I developed a lean and muscled body and improved my personal style specifically to get more romantic attention from women, not "for myself". Despite that, the changes have stuck to this day (which is well over five years) and I have a significantly more fulfilling life. I have no problem being pudgy and wearing comfortable but boring clothes – those changes weren't "for myself" in any way whatsoever beyond the satisfaction I got from attracting more and hotter girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 03:07 PM
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I used to be a fat guy (not completely obese, but still very soft and pudgy) who wore rock band T-shirts and cargo shorts because they were comfortable and practical. People did tell me to be properly groomed throughout my childhood, which I was. I also showered daily and wore clean clothes. However, whenever I openly wondered whether losing weight and changing my style would attract more girls as romantic partners rather than just friends, people told me "NO! Never change who you are for a girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 02:36 AM
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I used to be a fat guy (not completely obese, but still very soft and pudgy) who wore rock band T-shirts and cargo shorts because they were comfortable and practical. People did tell me to be properly groomed throughout my childhood, which I was. I also showered daily and wore clean clothes. However, whenever I openly wondered whether losing weight and changing my style would attract more girls as romantic partners rather than just friends, people told me "NO! Never change who you are for a girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 02:35 AM
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"Bottling it up will kill you" is a cliché, and inaccurate as well. "Male suicide rates are high because men don't express enough of their emotions" is speculation, and condescending too, since it presumes the factors that cause men to commit suicide can be solved by simply talking more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 03:19 PM
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Meryl Streep? Robin Wright? Helen Mirren? Julianne Moore? Melissa McCarthy? (I'll acknowledge a disparity between fat men and fat women, but all of them are few and far between and relegated to comedy).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 03:02 AM
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Anti-blue, not red: no, there are no sexual acts I've done with previous partners that I'm uncomfortable doing with my girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 05:47 AM
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Bullshit. The ones that complain are open to dating black women, and the ones who are okay with women expressing a preference not to date Indian men are open about having similar preferences regarding black women should they have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 04:47 AM
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You said fat, ugly, and old – not just any one of them. Of course you can find plenty of old guys and the odd fat guy, but the old guys look good for their age and the fat guys are neither old nor ugly. Plain looking at worst, in the case of someone like Jonah Hill.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 02:44 AM
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So you don't disclose your income?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 02:37 AM
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So you're married, but he has no idea how much you make? Do you file taxes separately?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 01:10 AM
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Maybe, but there's a big difference between not knowing specific prices by heart and not knowing how much money your spouse makes in general. It's highly unusual (and way more unusual than being married to a prostitute).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 12:58 AM
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Don't move the goalposts on me, you asked where the wish fulfillment was for middle-aged women and I gave you some examples. Also, none of the male leads in those movies are fat, old, and ugly, except for Alan in The Hangover – and as far as I know he doesn't have any wish-fulfillment relationships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 12:53 AM
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Eat Pray Love? How Stella Got Her Groove Back?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 12:22 AM
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Even if they're not sex workers themselves, most strippers know considerably more about the sex industry than the average person. Also, I get why you don't talk to him much about your job, but to me it seems odd for a married couple, a financial union, to be unaware of the most basic details of one another's finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 12:20 AM
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How does your husband, who used to be a stripper if I recall correctly, not know the first thing about sex work or how much you make?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 12:13 AM
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Dude, the prostitute in one of the other threads used the fact that she met a few nasty Indian clients to justify stereotyping the Indian race, and the blue pills upvoted her. Most of the hate is coming from elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 11:51 PM
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Also the Indian guy from Mean Girls, Kevin from How I Met Your Mother, Peter Sellers's character from The Party (played by a white guy in brownface, no less), Tom Haverford from Parks and Recreation . . . the list goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 07:53 PM
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The Western media is incredibly racist towards Indian men. The claim that "there are no attractive Indian male leads in Western media because there are practically no attractive Indian male actors" is bullshit. There are loads of attractive Indian male actors, and not just in Bollywood, but producers and casting directors don't put them in any roles that aren't ethnic-clown sidekick or scientist-guy. Sometimes it's due to the (self-fulfilling) prophecy that they're "not marketable", sometimes it…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 04:17 PM
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TBP has a habit of linking to heavily-downvoted posts on TRP and holding them up as if they're representative of the sub as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 04:00 AM
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You are the one who invoked defining cults in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 07:27 PM
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Apparently you don't, because "in group and out group", in the parlance of modern psychology, does not fulfill the sufficient conditions for the definition of "cult".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 07:18 PM
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Your line between "ideology" and "not ideology" is arbitrary and inconsistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 07:08 PM
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So if a movie sub banned someone for lecturing everyone that movies are a worthless waste of time, despite the words "this is not a sub set up to debate whether watching movies at all is a good use of time" being right in the sidebar, would it be cultlike?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 07:03 PM
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Again, that's true of all sorts of subs, not just religious ones. It's obnoxious to invade a sub, badmouth it, and then act like you're being oppressed when you're shown the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 06:39 PM
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The analogy applies for all types of subs. It's also like going into a gaming sub and telling everyone that video games are a complete waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 06:22 PM
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Not on /r/Christianity it doesn't. I believe the Resurrection is bullshit, but I don't show up to Bible study groups and argue that their religion is transparently false.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 05:16 PM
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Don't be ridiculous. What you did with the equivalent of showing up to /r/Christianity and saying "this whole Resurrection thing is bullshit, guys!".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 04:19 PM
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+/u/User_Simulator /u/autoNFA
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 04:01 AM
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I agree with you to point, but in fairness TRP is a place where talking about that sort of thing is specifically topical. Also, while it's not the hardest thing in the world to do, it's a lot more challenging to sleep with a large number of at-least-average-looking women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 08:26 PM
1

If you have pain issues, take a look at the Egoscue method and Iyengar yoga. You may have poor posture and movement pattern issues that you might be able to fix with targeting stretching and exercise programs. Also, use makeup on the scar – properly-applied concealer is barely noticeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 10:16 PM
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Whichever gender or genders you want to have sex with, it doesn't bother me. If you identify as male, female, both, or neither, it doesn't bother me. What I think is hogwash is claiming that your gender identity fluctuates on a short-term basis (i.e. "male one week, female the next"), or claiming to be specific percentages of male or female (i.e. "60% male, 40% female").
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 09:34 PM
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… By not sleeping with a ton of different people? How else?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:36 PM
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Of course they have relationships, they just also have some periods of being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:31 PM
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Because many people find it more enjoyable than one-off, anonymous, meaningless, non-committed, and/or non-intimate sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:23 PM
2

Pretty much the same. What do you consider high for men, and what numbers did you expect to see from us?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:41 PM
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Or, you know, masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:25 PM
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It's not a hard and fast rule, but double digits at my age (mid-to-late 20s) is a bad sign. Even then, I'd prefer lower than the high single digits for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:12 PM
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How are you defining "sexually uninhibited" here? You realize that someone can thoroughly enjoy sex but choose to go without, even when they have options for one-off anonymous sex, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:52 PM
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Thing is, promiscuity has a way of killing butterflies. It's not something I choose – attraction is not a choice. I find promiscuity unattractive, and I believe most men feel the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:46 PM
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Where did I say "hot and sexual women that don't have sex"? You're grossly misrepresenting my position. I clearly said "hot and sexual women with low partner counts". And you'll find them in stable monogamous long-term relationships banging their partners' brains out, or just single, because contrary to what you seem to believe, you can thoroughly enjoy sex and at the same time choose not to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:41 PM
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Ask a red piller, I don't use the term "unicorn". I also think the term means more than just "hot and sexual with a low partner count."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:33 PM
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Oh not this bullshit false dichotomy again. There are loads of hot and sexual women with low partner counts. There are loads of low SMV women with astronomical partner counts. You can have tons of sex without racking up your partner count by having only a few partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:27 PM
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He killed more men than women.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/15 04:23 PM
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Yoga is mostly Hindu.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 01:46 AM
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Britain and other colonizing countries produced a large amount of anti-Indian propaganda to try to morally justify their invasions and occupations abroad. "White Man's Burden" by Rudyard Kipling sticks out in particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 01:44 AM
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also Say Anything
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 10:52 PM
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There are a lot of racist Christians, but that doesn't make it a racist religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 08:37 PM
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Yep! I'm not speaking for TRP, though – I'm just speaking in general that happiness/self-confidence and anger are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 04:24 PM
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Consider the American civil rights movement of the 50s and 60s – many of the protesters were generally happy and self-confident people who nonetheless possessed great anger at the unjust system of racist and discriminatory institutions across the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 04:01 PM
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That makes sense, you two have the exact opposite preferences and eating is a large part of domestic activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 02:57 AM
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What do you mean, incompatible when it came to food?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 02:05 AM
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Why do you consider happiness, self-satisfaction, and self-confidence to be mutually exclusive with anger at specific situations?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 01:37 AM
1

What happened to your sales analogy? Cold approaches don't automatically imply supplication.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/15 03:47 AM
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I've changed my view on the theory "men love idealistically, women love pragmatically". I used to think that, now I think that men and women probably have the same general levels of love idealism. In particular, the study that women are less likely to leave sick husbands than vice versa cast too much doubt on that theory for me to continue accepting it as true. I don't think that study proves the reverse of the theory, however; it just casts too much doubt on the theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:13 PM
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Mr. Incredible starts lifting weights again after a long period of letting himself go, and his wife enjoys this and frequently initiates sex with him (implied, of course – a few shots where he's about to leave the bedroom after getting dressed, and she drags him back in).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 04:37 PM
4

Rule 34 dude
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 06:10 AM
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When has the last hentai achieved a nationwide major theatrical release?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 06:09 AM
2

F MRI doesn't work that way – there's no "lying" region of the brain that can give an accurate prediction of whether or not someone is lying. At least, we are nowhere close to identifying it if it exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 04:17 AM
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When most people talk about "lifting", they mean "resistance training with weights", not the drug fueled bulk up definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 06:00 PM
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If you're talking about bodybuilder-type physiques, no one gets those kinds of bodies without steroids or other anabolic drugs. Weightlifting alone will turn absolutely no one into a bodybuilder (except maybe people with extremely rare genetic factors).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 04:06 PM
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Are you aware that sledgehammer swinging is weightlifting?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 03:45 PM
1

Neither yoga nor Pilates are cardio-based.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 03:39 PM
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That's not the problem. The problem is that many people expect us to be mind readers and know what individual women want before even talking to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 03:33 PM
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I see this on both the red and blue pill subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 06:16 AM
1

I disagree that the vast majority of young men have problems with women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 04:34 PM
1

No, normal numbers for the vast majority of young men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 04:11 PM
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I asked TRPers how many women they knew and I was shocked at the low number most of them had. Most of them had normal numbers for how many women they knew. You just told every red piller "nope, too low" regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 03:14 AM
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He said "unkempt and average", not "horrifying blob". Those are clearly different zones of the bell curve.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 03:01 AM
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How do you know they were desperate?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 09:40 PM
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… says the woman who thinks destroying the genitals of men is funny. https://np.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/3ci9pb/new_and_confused_why_is_rtheredpill_so/csw1dkl
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 03:30 AM
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I've got no problem with the general concept of her using a guide. In fact, I'd be flattered – it shows she cares about her relationship quality. However, your guide is clearly biased by your femdom preferences, and as such is not a good guide. I find bossy women very unattractive, and I think most men feel the same way..
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 01:08 AM
5

I wouldn't say it's zero-sum, but it definitely has a strong competitive element between the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:08 PM
1

What harm does it do? Plus, it's good source of motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 01:08 AM
1

What's wrong with resenting the people who lied to you? (The specific people, not everyone from the same demographic categories)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 07:16 PM
24

Young vs old is a significant confounding variable here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 04:02 PM
1

I can understand not wanting to be angry personally, but "feeling anger" is not synonymous with "constantly seething under the surface".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 03:59 PM
2

Why wouldn't you get angry over being lied to? You were totally justified in being angry at those people who lie to you, and there's no contradiction between being angry at people who lied to you and taking proactive steps to improve your situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 05:42 AM
2

For some men, their uncalculated genuineness comes out expressed as moderately- to extremely-offputting language or actions. I think you don't understand that – there are men out there who for whatever reason didn't develop appropriate social skills earlier. These men, when trying to express themselves genuinely with the best of intentions, often make women uncomfortable and disgusted. What you call learning tricks, fakery, and putting on a façade, I call learning remedial social skills. It's a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 04:33 AM
2

Yoga, or Pilates (which was originally developed as exercise for injured World War I soldiers).
/r/askTRP23/06/15 07:55 PM
2

You're not going to look like Jeff Seid or Zyzz unless you're on gear.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/15 04:25 PM
1

If you're skinny, you can do well if you're an artist, musician, or independent religious leader. Otherwise, get some muscle. Either way, do some yoga (I recommend Iyengar) to improve your posture.
/r/askTRP22/06/15 11:07 PM
7

Compare the amount of sex gay men have to the amount of sex gay women have for an idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 03:07 AM
0

It's likely that the amount of testosterone it takes to boost libido in women also has significant masculinizing effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 03:05 AM
1

In my observation, women tend to be disabused of these falsehoods significantly earlier than men are, for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 08:41 PM
1

I was told that either said attractive men also had stellar personalities or the women in question were shallow airheads who I shouldn't want anyway, depending on the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 08:34 PM
1

I grew up in the 90s, and I got the same messages as /u/thedeti.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 08:26 PM
2

That should be the most ubiquitous advice, but it's not. Most people give advice that preserves their (the givers') vision of the world as a warm and fuzzy place, glossing over hard but helpful truths (especially those that risk offending the recipient of advice).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 04:51 PM
3

See, everyone agrees with "stand up for yourself" in theory, but everyone has different ideas of what it means in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 01:54 AM
1

Egoscue method. Iyengar yoga is good too, but make sure you get a really good teacher who knows how to work around your injuries.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/15 11:26 PM
3

I've recommended him in the past, so I'll comment – Manson is mostly good, with a few quibbles. In particular, I don't think polarization as soon as possible is a good idea (i.e. trying to quickly get someone to make an evaluation of you as "definite yes" or "definite no"), but it may be good for newbies to hear that because the opposite end of the spectrum is way, way worse. Plenty of people who are "maybe" will eventually come around to the "definite yes" category if you're not too pushy. Most…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/15 01:08 AM
1

I have yet to meet a young, unmarried Indian man who seemed satisfied with his romantic life. You rang? they have a lot of negative stereotypes to overcome that people of other races don't. This is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 08:20 PM
2

Get a better camera (Rebel T3 with 50mm f/1.8 lens, used even) and get some beach photos with you looking fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 08:10 PM
2

Why not? The state incorporates feminist policy and provides welfare. Seems accurate if nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 04:49 AM
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Stop doing shit for women. I actually disagree with this one. I used to spend a lot of time getting really good at a few fighting games. I enjoyed it, I was passionate about it, I won competitions. But I was romantically unsuccessful – there aren't that many women who find competitive videogame playing skills to be a visceral turn-on. Even fewer of those women are attractive, and most of them didn't live near me. Once I redirected all that effort into my artistic pursuits, I was much more romant…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 09:33 PM
1

Men fighting back against the relentless assault on the presumption of innocence for men accused of heinous crimes by women are only doing it because they're pathetic loser virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 11:28 PM
1

Women are attracted to male initiative.
/r/askTRP27/05/15 08:02 PM
1

Your problem is that you're viewing your perspective as the "real" perspective and theirs as the "subjective" one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 05:39 PM
1

Yeah, then I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 05:35 PM
4

I disagree. Hot girls know other hot girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 05:22 PM
6

What? Yes they do. Or do you mean, they don't have female friends they hang out with one-on-one on a regular basis? Because that makes a lot more sense. I have several female friends I regularly hang out with in group settings, but rarely one-on-one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 05:13 PM
2

There are always church charities available, and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 04:21 AM
1

Egoscue method.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 05:14 PM
1

I lift weights about four times a week. As I said in my original post, I think every man should lift.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 05:12 PM
1

http://www.amazon.com/B-K-S-Iyengar-Yoga-Holistic-Health/dp/1465415831/ref=dp_ob_title_bk – check it out at a library/bookstore. "Light on Yoga" is also by BKS Iyengar, and that's really the Bible of yoga, but it doesn't have the same information on how to modify the poses to make them easier if you need it. I actually learned from my parents when I was a kid, though. Edit: http://www.amazon.com/Light-Yoga-B-K-Iyengar/dp/0805210318/ref=pd_bxgy_14_img_y
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 02:07 AM
1

Basic once-over for the major muscle groups. I do a session of Iyengar yoga each morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 01:54 AM
1

It's mainly the super-heavy-compound-lifts-only cohort that gets the major posture problems and risks of injury. And lifting is very good exercise – I'm not disputing that at all. It's just that it shouldn't be the only form of exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 11:01 PM
2

TRP is in the business of advising men on how to improve their attractiveness. In my observation, people who lift primarily and do flexibility work as well have much better posture than people who lift alone. Better posture improves attractiveness, therefore it's worth recommending.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 10:58 PM
2

I'm not disagreeing with you. My issue is that the focus on lifting comes at the exclusion of other forms of exercise. Lifting + flexibility training is significantly better than lifting alone for fitness and aesthetics, in my observation, but I almost never see anyone recommending yoga, Pilates, or stretching in general in TRP. In fact, sometimes they're even mocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 10:52 PM
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To convince themselves that they live in a just world. They want to believe that any non-hideous person with a personality and worldview they deem acceptable will be able to get laid with other people of similar attractiveness. When a man challenges that narrative, they must either admit to themselves that some good men struggle to get laid or instead assume that the man has a despicable personality. Most choose the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 09:31 PM
1

Models isn't bad, but it's far from perfect. "Fuck yes or no" and immediate polarization aren't good general advice, and he uses an esoteric definition of "vulnerability".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 05:41 AM
5

Charles Tyrwhytt has some nice shirts for reasonable prices.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 12:25 AM
3

I love turkey sausages, I have them for breakfast everyday, but I never get sick of them. I drink whiskey daily and haven't gotten sick of it yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 10:16 PM
5

"looks don't matter, it's all about how you present yourself" where in this context presentation referred to things like grooming, fashion sense, and personality, and explicitly not muscles. "Treat her like a princess" "she comes first" "treat her like she deserves" etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 04:53 AM
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Be sexual. This doesn't mean being a creep from the fucking get-go. Just feel it out Glad we cleared that up./S
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 01:56 AM
3

90s and early 2000's left-leaning US towns. C
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 11:50 PM
4

because until recently, mainstream advice usually contradicted the two things you listed as examples of "common sense".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 11:48 PM
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Ah, "common sense". The easiest way to say that people who see things differently from you are blind idiots. Explains nothing, but at least you get to feel superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 05:46 PM
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Many mainstream sources say things like "don't be a doormat, have a spine", but then go on to advocate performing supplicating behaviors. It's not enough to say "have a spine" because it's a vague statement that virtually no one will disagree with, yet people can interpret it in a wide variety of ways. The devil is in the details. TRP, for its faults, provides detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 05:22 PM
3

The one thing I would suggest differently is to actively buck stereotypes.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/15 01:56 AM
3

Have you heard the phrase "all guns are loaded"? Treat all guns as if they were loaded, even if you've unloaded them. Too many accidents have happened because of people who thought they had unloaded guns or didn't bother to check if the gun was loaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 03:29 AM
2

that's what GRiD is saying. Y
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 10:44 PM
3

Those concepts are heavily expanded upon in TRP. No one is claiming that those literal words are all the words you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 10:21 PM
3

It's very vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 04:42 PM
3

Does he fucking care how many cocks Angelina Jolie sucked before him? Hell no I think you're pulling that out of your ass. D
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 05:20 AM
1

… how does that even work, geometrically speaking? Wouldn't the hips of the three men prevent that from happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 05:13 AM
3

There's about one or two of them, tiny backwater cultures of little significance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 06:08 PM
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It's the synthesis that's important, I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:13 PM
4

Extended reading of fiction is almost as bad as extended watching of TV.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 05:48 PM
5

I never express vulnerability except with those I trust, and I'm slow to trust. That means many months of a stable relationship first, at least. I've never exposed vulnerability to a short-term partner, yet I haven't had any trouble getting laid. Oh sure, I've exposed myself to rejection, but that's not even close to the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 07:03 PM
1

MBTI is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 05:57 AM
3

My parents were arranged, and are still happy together, so I have first-hand knowledge that it can turn out well. However, I don't think your reasons are good ones. It's not just Indians who have to put a lot of effort into themselves before they can pull quality tail, it's other minority men too. I think your approach in this from a fear-based mindset, and you're only choosing this option because you're afraid of the alternative. That's the kind of thing that eats you up inside. Are you in shap…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:44 PM
1

Never succeeding at forming any sort of connection sucks way more than needing to think hard about what you're doing and how to do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:21 PM
4

You're complaining about debate being replaced by circle jerking commenters furiously agreeing with each other by doing the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 10:06 PM
7

So the exact thing you're doing right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 07:36 PM
2

It helps me stay awake and alert, and sometimes I don't feel like brewing a whole pot of coffee.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 04:48 AM
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I don't get how you're going from "can't get laid and want to figure out how" to "easy fix". Seeking advice on a subject doesn't automatically mean you want to take shortcuts. I mean, let's say I wanted to learn how to get better at chess, and so I started posting on a chess forum. Does that mean I'm looking for an easy fix for my chess game?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 04:43 AM
2

I accept the implications of evolutionary psychology with regard to human mating behavior, which is definitely enough to make me not BP. But TRP is full of confirmation bias, absolutism, pessimism, and questionable upvotes. I don't see myself as purple because I think being a member of TRP is an all or nothing sort of thing. Also, TBP is way more racist than TRP, and I have no desire to identify with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 04:26 AM
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Yeah, like a book, or an Internet article with a permanent address or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 09:36 PM
1

That's not what I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 09:34 PM
2

Most porn I've read is better written than 50 Shades.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 04:50 AM
1

I'm looking for existing resources, not ad hoc replies. Stuff like what /u/natorierk posted secondly. Exhausting?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 04:41 AM
1

This is pretty good. Do you think this would be accepted without Reservation by blue pills, feminists, and the mainstream types?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 04:38 AM
1

That link contains some very bad advice, and doesn't get any further than the first stage of initiating physical contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 04:34 AM
2

Actually, I was a neuroscience major – changes in your body actually can change your mental state. There was one experiment where people had to hold a penciled with their mouths such that it force them to smile, and it made them happier even though it was a solely mechanical action.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 04:28 AM
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I just checked, and you're right, it does. Still, I consider it to be a book rooted in the PUA tradition. I'll admit that it has some crossover support, but I wouldn't consider it mainstream. Do you think a lot of Blue Pills would give the book, and particularly that chapter, unqualified support?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 06:24 AM
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Basic human affection?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 06:16 AM
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It did start as a circle jerk, but you're not helping. I'm asking in good faith, though – I really want to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 06:12 AM
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Can you elaborate on "play with the girl"? Really, though, I'm looking for specific articles and books rather than ad hoc Internet comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 06:10 AM
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That's verbal flirtation, though. Not physical flirtation. Also, it's fictional – I'm looking for advice grounded in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 06:04 AM
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What does it say about initiating and deepening physical contact? I've seen plenty of books and articles about talking to women, but virtually none outside of pickup circles about touching them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 06:03 AM
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Become a snappy dresser. Defy the engineering stereotype of being a poor dresser by wearing sharp flattering tailored clothes. Play with color. Optimize your posture. I suggest the Pete Egoscue method for this. Care for your skin. Cleanse and moisturize at least, use Stridex (red version) and benzoyl peroxide if you have acne. Learn to dance. I've heard good things about salsa.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 01:51 AM
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I'm Indian and I've had casual sex with reasonably attractive (at least) young white women, so I know it can be done. Online is a slog to be sure, that's why I prefer to find them off-line. Edit: It probably helps that I'm an artist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 04:21 AM
2

That's making the big assumption that you can actually find people to satisfy all of those desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 02:22 AM
2

That's awful advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 02:19 AM
1

In this way it also means you get to satisfy all your needs. Since when have we been expecting relationships/sex partners to satisfy our every need (or desire)?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 06:11 AM
1

Replace "take-charge" with its synonym, "dominant", and it suddenly becomes much more controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 03:49 AM
3

so would you agree that there exists an attractive level of aggression and authoritativeness?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 02:44 AM
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Passiveness is the opposite of aggression and authoritativeness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 02:19 AM
2

Effectiveness statistics are actually calculated for each year of use, not each instance of use. So the odds are actually even lower than you stated – one in 10,000 years of frequent sex, not 10,000 sessions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 02:17 AM
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Disagree. They told me to back off before I made a woman uncomfortable, and if I actually made a woman uncomfortable, even accidentally, then I was a scumbag who deserved to be alone. I came of age in the early 2000's. There was zero tolerance for men who made women uncomfortable, and this was particularly upsetting for me since I'm a big colored man who occasionally makes people uncomfortable with his mere presence just going about his daily business.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 02:07 AM
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Passive men have bad sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 01:50 AM
1

I'm also interested in seeing which ones they consider real, especially those in which the narrator was not rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 10:40 PM
1

The advice I listed was pervasive in the media of the time that I was exposed to as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 05:49 AM
1

I don't think so. I've met too many so-called "good girls" who turned out to fulfill TRP tropes after I got to know them to dismiss the controversial aspects of TRP outright. Maybe it's a small subgroup, but it's a subgroup that's virtually impossible to identify at first glance. Or fourth glance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 05:41 PM
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I grew up in the 90s in a very liberal town. What you call "common sense" was advice I never got from my social circle or family. Instead, I was told "you like band T-shirts and cargo shorts? You'll find a girl who likes you for who you are! Don't pretend to be someone you're not!". The only useful advice I got relating to personal appearance was about proper grooming.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 05:23 PM
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"if women aren't attracted to you, it's because you don't respect women. Have you tried respecting women?"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 05:34 PM
11

The feminist narrative is the mainstream narrative. They are the orthodoxy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 05:33 PM
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She should be majoring in materials engineering, not art, because she made up some transparent bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 06:01 PM
6

Notice how it's called the "civil rights movement", not "non-white-ism".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 05:12 AM
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Do you know anyone opposed to slavery who identifies his -or herself as an abolitionist? Because I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 05:06 AM
3

Still pretty hard, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 04:59 AM
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That there's a sizable percentage of women out there who will find you attractive if you are well-dressed, confident, interesting, and kind, even if you're very overweight. There is not. When I was fashionable and interesting but borderline obese, I made many friends and had a rich social life but couldn't get a date to save my life. Lost the weight and suddenly had no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 08:27 PM
1

All guns are loaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 05:30 PM
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/u/bazmeg Seconded, except in my case it was the PUA community rather than the man-osphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 06:06 AM
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"Every inch of you is perfect" strongly implies that your weight isn't a factor in your dating success and satisfaction. I'm not talking about the mildly overweight people here. I agree that a lot of people wouldn't see a difference in their dating success if they went from mildly overweight to medium weight. I'm talking about the significantly overweight to obese people. Those people will see their dating options significantly curtailed by being seriously overweight. Large amounts of excess wei…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 01:32 AM
2

Read my flair. It specifically says "not Red Pill".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 01:10 AM
2

Not a lyric, an actress in the video.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 01:08 AM
3

There's a super unflattering caricature of skinny girls in the video.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 11:27 PM
3

What's attractive about guys with eyeliner? When I see photos of dudes in makeup, the eyes and lips always looks super weird. Eyes like raccoons, lips too plump. Sometimes it's an improvement on the face skin though, if it's subtle and there's no contouring or blush.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 11:22 PM
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And slaves count as 3/5 of a person, and women can't vote, and real estate agents can collude to keep the colored folks out of the white parts of cities… The Constitution and federal government sucked the big one for everyone but whites until about 1980.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 11:15 PM
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Plenty of guys go for slightly overweight women who have enhanced secondary sexual characteristics as a result, but true chubby chasers who like the double chin fat ankle stomach roll look are small and unusually vocal minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 11:03 PM
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You're reading a lot of nuance into that video that simply isn't there. Furthermore, speaking as a former fatty, that may be what they want to hear, but it's not what they need to hear. My dating life skyrocketed once I dropped all my excess fat, and the same is true for my two female friends who were in the same position as me. Before I lost weight, everyone was telling me that I shouldn't need to change who I am and eventually I'll find a girl who "likes me for me" – and my size was considered…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 10:59 PM
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I'm talking about the sentiment expressed by "Every inch of you is perfect from the bottom to the top" and "I got that boom boom that all the boys chase" and so on. The fantasy that you won't suffer negative consequences in the dating arena for being too fat. Truth is, being overweight puts you at significant disadvantage (for both men and women, but in my observation women face a bigger penalty). In all these fat-praising songs, notice how all the focus is on the buttocks, not double chins or c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 08:46 PM
5

Have you not heard the song "All About That Bass"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:19 PM
0

Wouldn't work. Not a stable equilibrium. If one woman chooses not to be promiscuous in such a situation it would set her apart from the crowd in a good way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 12:30 AM
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How many times have you heard a guy complaining because a woman makes it clear she's not interested in him? You mean after weeks or months of hints to the contrary and dancing around the subject on the part of the woman? Surprisingly often.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 02:06 AM
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Gender roles won't be out of date until women prefer unmanly men just as much as they prefer manly men. Which I don't see happening anytime soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 08:52 PM
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He could already lie about a vasectomy, so I don't see the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 08:47 PM
2

Brilliant counterargument.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 09:38 PM
4

What, and submit to culturally ingrained racism? No thanks. I can do anything a white person can do, including introducing myself politely to strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 02:10 AM
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You introduced the hypothetical situation, not me. And I'm a large colored man, so I run an automatic risk of discomforting people just by going about my daily business in certain parts of the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 01:52 AM
3

What are you talking about? Big dogs bark all the time. My neighbor has a German Shepherd that won't shut up (adorable bugger, though).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 01:42 AM
1

Take the circle jerk over to TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 01:38 AM
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Of course not, but in that hypothetical situation I still discomforted her with an introduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 01:35 AM
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Contrary to what Dr. Nerdloves would have you believe, there's no way to make the risk of discomforting a woman completely negligible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 11:47 PM
1

I'm with you except for the "queer" bit. In what way is he queer? But yeah it's like taking business advice from a low level corporate paper-pusher.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 05:17 PM
1

Haven't you heard? Oceania was never at war with Eurasia. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 04:11 AM
2

I think there's a misunderstanding. "Approach" doesn't just mean walking up to someone random on the street, it represents a concrete step taken in attempt to establish an intimate physical relationship with another person, who thereby gets put in a position to accept or reject that step. Walking up to someone and initiating conversation with them doesn't just happen on the street, it also happens at parties with loose acquaintances and friends-of-friends, in groups of people engaging in a commo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 02:48 AM
1

Personally, I find this very sad since I prefer a male midwife. Imho women having experienced birth is actually a contraindication for being a good midwife since I'm afraid they are too influenced by their own emotional births. Sadly midwife association has the completely contrary veiwpoint :-(( Too influenced how? I haven't heard this viewpoint before.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 09:18 PM
8

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 07:38 PM
1

In my case? Everyone who told me "you'll find a girl who wants to date you if you just be patient and keep doing what you're doing!" instead of "lose some weight, learn how to actually flirt, and don't ask 'Can I touch you?' every time before touching a girl for the first time, you obese buffoon". I had to turn to the Internet to get some real answers, because the advice I got from my friends and family was really that stupid. Nor was my experience unique, judging by stuff I've heard from other …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 05:13 AM
2

I don't see how that follows from my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 10:58 PM
4

I have, personally. In the infinite iterated prisoner's dilemma game, the optimal strategy is pure tit-for-tat – start by cooperating, and for each round thereafter simply copy the other player's previous move. Tit for tat is both fair and optimal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 08:22 PM
10

Asian and Indian immigrant families (in particular the ethnic groups that outperform whites on measures of scholastic achievement), lacking the social connections of non-immigrant families, heavily stress education as key to social mobility. Time spent developing athletic ability and social skills is considered lower priority. Bluntly, this results in many first-generation Asian and Indian adults who are nerdy and unattractive despite being very successful professionally. Some groups of women, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 02:36 AM
0

A few women are not like that, but they're indistinguishable from the ones who are for years of knowing each of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 02:07 AM
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I think you live in a bubble. In general, women seek casual sex much less than men do, and even when they do it requires an uncommon level of social savvy on the man's part. Just because you have it easy doesn't mean everyone else does. Sure, it's not an impossible task, but neither is the bar as low as you make it out to be. I know plenty of average looking men in reasonable shape without glaring personality flaws who are frustrated with their dating prospects. None of this changes the fact tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 01:45 AM
1

Some dudes just plain like obese. Doesn't mean the rest of us have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 01:33 AM
8

Define "cheap". How cheap?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 09:37 PM
8

I don't understand. What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 09:06 PM
12

If you're getting laid, you're being rewarded by others for your behavior. If you're being rewarded for your behavior, that means those people approve your behavior. Ergo, if you're getting laid, the people who sleep with you show through their actions that your behavior is commendable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 08:43 PM
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Read a newspaper.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 08:37 PM
1

a critical component of "stick close to you are" is "stay in your social niche". Basically, don't stray too far outside the status quo. If who you are isn't making you happy, it's better to change who you are rather than making minor adjustments for the sake of tradition.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 08:11 PM
-1

again, not a strawman. Seen it over and over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 05:12 PM
1

I don't!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 01:41 AM
2

^ What she said, but in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:00 PM
9

The consequence is she eliminated herself from the heterosexual long-term relationship market. Sounds like a win for relationship-minded straight guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:02 AM
2

That's not a strawman. That's the literal advice I received throughout my teenage years from most everyone before I turned to the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 06:23 PM
2

What difference does it make whether it's sexual or lifestyle compatibility? The effect is the same – men qualifying themselves to women before sex, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 09:06 PM
1

I should clarify – both parties put up hoops, but she's still putting them up longer after he's finished.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 09:01 PM
-1

It sounds like you're confirming the point. You hold up hoops, he jumps through them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 05:21 PM
0

Just an example to illustrate how gamete differences between the sexes result in asymmetric sexual behaviors and strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 05:03 PM
2

Someone who has sex 100 times with one single person is going to have the same amount of experience as someone who has sex one time each with 100 different people. In fact, the former would probably have more experience, since the weird experimental stuff usually only comes out later with a given person. In any case, performance is largely function of enthusiasm first and foremost and physical coordination second. Once she gets the basic movements down, a woman who's had sex a handful of times c…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 04:42 PM
2

You didn't actually answer any of my questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 04:26 PM
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The pipefish. The males carry the higher reproductive risk, since they carry the fertilized eggs on the outsides of their bodies as the eggs develop. This makes them more vulnerable, and they can't protect a new clutch of eggs while the previous one is still developing. Meanwhile, the females can mate much more often than the males. The males are therefore the choosier sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 02:15 AM
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Since when does a woman need to sleep around to evolve into a full-fledged adult? Are women who don't sleep around incapable of full-fledged adulthood? Since when does enjoying sex require sleeping around? Can a woman not realize her sexuality without a certain minimum number of partners? Do you argue that the numerous women on the sub with only one or two partners in their pasts are stunted adults?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 01:52 AM
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That's the just-world fallacy. Loads of good men don't get laid. Loads of not-so-good men get laid all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 04:46 PM
1

Basic clay figures, for the most part, nothing too fancy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 04:37 PM
3

Male, kind of RP Painting, sculpture, weightlifting, yoga, investing, photography
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 02:40 AM
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That's awful advice for girls, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 11:18 PM
2

How is he not your boyfriend? How is he not your sub? You're in a committed relationship and he's sexually submissive to you. Expecting other people to know that you mean your boyfriend where you use a made-up title instead is pretentious, like always referring to yourself in the third person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 09:03 PM
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The term is "boyfriend" or "SO" or even "sub". Using BDSM person-specific titles in regular conversation is pretentious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 09:23 PM
3

My parents have an arranged marriage. They got married shortly after undergrad in their early 20s, with neither dating anyone as far as I know. They seem to have a very happy marriage. Mom tends to be more emotional than Dad and prefers the stay at home role. Dad was a strong father figure, but he (and my mother) have little cultural knowledge of American dating practices. Both hew closely to their respective gender roles. I look up to both of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 05:17 AM
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OP's brother sounds like a stand up guy. He saved Amit from being stuck in a loveless provider role. If I was OP I would congratulate my brother and buy him a drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 12:02 AM
1

I'd rather die.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 04:41 PM
1

?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 10:04 PM
2

Because red pill and blue pill make different judgments about whether the same behaviors are assertive/douchey or polite/supplicating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:30 PM
1

Islam isn't a race.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 04:59 PM
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I just gave you national statistics. Are you seriously trying to argue that the CDC is wrong without even citing any methodology problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 01:21 AM
5

In America? Go outside. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm 69% of adults are overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 01:12 AM
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Skinny women aren't the ideal now, the ideal well-proportioned woman is just skinny relative to the land whales that are so prominent today.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 12:02 AM
2

Those gender roles will never be antiquated so long as the majority of women find those roles attractive. It's simple self interest, rather than oppression, that reinforces male gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 04:17 AM
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Perfection is impossible, but you can swing the odds in your favor. Statistics favor a low partner count.
/r/TheRedPill07/12/14 05:47 PM
1

Homo_homini_lupus (Scarlett O'Horror)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 05:38 PM
1

Just because one piece of the puzzle might be the most important doesn't mean the others go without saying or are otherwise unimportant. Just telling people to value themselves, or even to value themselves and look attractive, is not a substitute. There's a whole lot more involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 05:29 PM
1

What's the "leaning" part?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 05:21 AM
2

They're the majority. In a lot of places you practically shut yourself out of the market if you don't attract white girls.
/r/TheRedPill07/12/14 01:14 AM
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How a man carries himself is only a small part of getting laid. It's an overly reductive view that boils attraction down to moral qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 10:15 PM
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An ugly man who does that pulls tail. To get laid, an ugly man needs to do way more than not supplicate and value himself. Things like wit and fitness come to mind. There's also a boatload of social skills required, such as being able to identify the appropriate moments to engage in physical contact. It's not as simple as "everyone who values himself pulls tail" (and therefore failure to pull tail despite trying means that you don't value yourself).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 10:13 PM
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Being confident is attractive The problem with making statements like that and presenting them as good general advice is that when you get down specific situations, you and RP people will disagree on what counts is confident behavior versus what counts as asshole or arrogant behavior versus what counts as pushover behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 03:52 AM
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When it comes to dating in America, Asian men face the worst stereotyping regarding their sex appeal (either that they have none of it, or that they have incredibly controlling attitudes towards women as a result of their race). As a result, you have more Asian men proportionally than any other group who get shut out of the dating environment despite doing everything "right". Additionally, their parents often come from nations with very different dating cultures, and their advice often doesn't w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 07:43 PM
2

What do portals have anything to do with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 10:19 PM
2

Bullying and hierarchy aren't unique to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 03:38 AM
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Aren't you upfront about your interest in femdom? That might skew things a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/14 09:47 PM
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I guess she doesn't see criminals as people.
/r/TheRedPill17/11/14 04:57 PM
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There are so many reasonable ways to interpret it that it can mean practically anything. It can be useful if the advice-giver explains specifically what he or she means with nuance immediately after using the phrase, but without nuance it be comes worse than use less since the people who need the advice are also the most prone to interpret it badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/14 03:43 AM
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I think being desire less isn't a good thing to strive for. Dex makes a big show of being desire less, but ultimately he's just lying to himself. If you try to bury your desire, you end up missing the critical windows to rapidly escalate and strike.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/14 10:56 PM
1

What do you mean by "the average non-black (white) middle-class American"? What function does "(white)" serve in that noun phrase? Because it looks like an implied black/white dichotomy from over here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/14 09:46 PM
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Do you have any chance whatsoever to interact with boys in a social setting? (Outside of the classroom). If literally the only chance you have to interact with boys is in school, then it's less a case of boys ignoring you and more you never being in position to be approached. That's why I stopped spending so much time playing Go and Streetfighter II in high school – sure, I had fun and spent a lot of time with friends, but in my town virtually no women engaged in those hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/14 09:35 PM
1

Do you have hobbies where you frequently interact with dudes as a consequence of engaging in those hobbies?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/14 09:11 PM
1

Well, what's your strategy/plan-of-attack for fixing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/14 09:07 PM
1

What do you mean by "dose of reality"? I'm a middle class American of Indian ancestry, the "TRP experience" isn't restricted to whites.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/14 08:46 PM
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Some men are genuinely attracted to very fat women, but that doesn't mean that telling women to gain or maintain lots of body fat is good general dating advice for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 03:44 AM
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Then why are you even here?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 03:23 AM
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Disagree with you on the classical guitar front. Spanish guitar is wicked among the right audience.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 01:20 AM
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Get in shape, stop jerking off, stop watching porn, and take some initiative. In my experience, women rarely express direct, non-covert interest in me until I ask them out or put my arm around them or kiss them or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 03:51 PM
2

Got a snapshot: http://redditlog.com/snapshots/1099681
/r/TheRedPill09/10/14 04:50 AM
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I'm going to go out and make a half brown baby right now!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/14 03:33 AM
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Troll in the dungeons!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/14 03:25 AM
1

An acknowledgment of the existence of female privilege in certain situations, without it being qualified by something like "but it's really all the result of negative attitudes toward women!".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/14 09:35 PM
4

Both men and women can use manipulation tactics, sure, but they tend to be rather different in implementation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 03:20 PM
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In many of those cases though, the issue wasn't that the women were lying about being raped, but rather the police picked up some random black guy and pinned the crime on him.
/r/TheRedPill26/09/14 09:29 PM
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She said that men should feel free to act in ways that aren't traditionally masculine, because gender roles are antiquated and can be harmful But they're not antiquated, seeing as they are very attractive, and adopting traditional masculine qualities helps young men far, far more than it hurts them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 11:14 PM
1

Why are rage and hate unhealthy and counterproductive?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 04:47 AM
2

What does this have to do with the engineer your husband can't stand?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 04:23 AM
2

I'm brown.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 04:20 AM
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/r/offmychest /r/self
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 12:15 AM
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Step 1: get in shape. Step 2: grooming. Where are you w.r.t. those two?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 05:28 PM
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This analysis neglects the fact that attractive women are more likely to put their profile picture up in general. Your conclusions may not be wrong, but your reasoning is incomplete.
/r/TheRedPill12/09/14 08:41 PM
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For men: never trust anyone who claims to be able to give you relationship advice in just one sentence. For women: never trust anyone who claims to be able to give you relationship advice in just one sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 05:06 PM
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This is not trivial. Regardless of age or sex, it's rude to ignore someone in person in favor of a mobile device. This is applicable in a wide range of situations, not just a relationship.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/14 04:50 AM
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Find friends off-line. I hope no one is dumb enough to connect their online account here to their real life identity.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/14 04:38 AM
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As another Indian-American, I would. Totally different culture. Hundreds of miles apart. If they can't learn the difference, fuck 'em.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 08:08 PM
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Many would also respond positively to a middle-of-the-road-attractiveness girl saying the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 08:05 PM
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I used to think that it would indeed be in a woman's best interest to seek a ( relatively) low partner count man, but for some reason many of them don't seem to feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 10:01 PM
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This is among the least neutral titles I've ever seen on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 09:54 PM
2

It’s only been a couple of hours. Give people time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/14 02:30 AM
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This comment doesn't add anything to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/14 02:01 AM
2

going off topic, why do you always mention your tea?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 02:36 AM
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If ideas and concepts are truly ludicrous, they are simply laughed into obscurity, and they go away on their own because they truly lack merit. Astrology is still around.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 08:49 AM
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bonus points if she dresses provocatively or posts suggestive selfies, means she is fully aware and knows what to do with it. That doesn't make any sense. Children and teenagers imitate adults all the time without necessarily understanding the ramifications of their actions. The reasoning is unsound.
/r/TheRedPill08/08/14 04:12 AM
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old enough to bleed, old enough to breed. Teenagers have more health complications in pregnancy/childbirth than adults. They can technically reproduce, but they're much better off waiting until adulthood. Calling guys "pedos" for finding any under-18s attractive is idiotic, but biologically speaking the reproductive prime for women doesn't hit until they've more or less finished growing.
/r/TheRedPill08/08/14 04:08 AM
3

What else is there?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 10:54 PM
3

I would compare it more to PUA in general than TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 09:25 PM
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And I hope one day you'll enjoy editing as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 06:23 AM
5

Lazy cut and paste.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 11:45 PM
3

If he was truly satisfied in the first place, why would he turn to the red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 11:42 PM
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I do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 04:51 AM
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People try this. The problem is that it usually becomes a clusterfuck where political correctness trumps actually effective advice e.g. you can't talk about the red flags of women with very high partner counts without some "sex-positive feminist" maniacs jumping down your throat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 05:31 AM
1

Oh, I'm not the user you replied to with that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 03:00 AM
1

Which question?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 01:57 AM
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If unintentional?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 12:00 AM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2ckd6f/rpers_what_if_your_wifesopartner_was_better_at/cjgncnf But many activities are regarded as masculine or feminine by society, that's how our gender roles are established and reinforced. Don't be disingenuous. This is an overarching view on gender and sexuality that you've asserted in this very thread. Practice what you preach and prove it scientifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 10:53 PM
1

Alright. Some women define it as "initiating conversation" or "walking up, but not necessarily initiating conversation".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 10:18 PM
1

Define "approach" in this context please.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 09:43 PM
2

So you can back up all of your general or overarching views on gender and sexuality with scientific studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 09:39 PM
2

Do you dispute the methodologies of the linked studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 07:05 PM
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Except he didn't say his observations were STEM, he said they were personal observations. Are observations worthless if they're not taken in a university scientific study?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 07:04 PM
1

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 06:08 PM
0

Everyone does it. It's nothing but setting boundaries and vigorously defending them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 06:07 PM
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Good for her, I'm not perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 06:06 PM
2

I wish I could STEM this hard. what does that even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 05:59 PM
1

It doesn't matter if she's better, it matters if she wants to lead. In which case we'd be incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 05:58 PM
2

Is any lowering of a woman's self-esteem manipulation?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 05:55 PM
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UPDATE: I'm reading it now. It's certainly better than loads of other seduction stuff out there. The /r/exredpill review OP linked does a terrible job of describing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 06:51 AM
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I don't get what's so different or special about the book from his review. It sounds like regurgitated Napoleon Hill The Secret Just Act Natural self help from here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 08:39 PM
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It just means approaching someone you haven't met before, like the proverbial cute girl across the room in the coffee shop. it's just a shorthand.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 04:55 PM
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Have you ever tried picking up a woman off a cold approach? I don't flirt with guys or friendly old people, but I talk to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 04:48 PM
1

How do relationships do that for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 07:22 AM
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Fuck it, I'm red again. This pushed me over the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 06:46 AM
1

Wait til you get to college, it'll show up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 06:44 AM
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"Man up and start wining and dining women!", among other things. The idea that men should want someone like them but with a vagina, as opposed to a feminine complement, and the charge that resistance is bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 06:39 AM
2

no one said that middle-aged women are unattractive, just less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 06:17 AM
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Why would that make you feel bad about yourself? Women have plenty of value beyond sex alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 05:00 AM
1

Say Anything
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 02:23 AM
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The dominance route is paved with intimidation, threats, and coercion, and is fueled by hubristic pride. Hubristic pride is associated with arrogance, conceit, anti-social behaviors, unstable relationships, low levels of conscientiousness and high levels of disagreeableness, neuroticism, narcissism, and poor mental health outcomes. Hubristic pride, along with its associated feelings of superiority and arrogance, facilitates dominance by motivating behaviors such as aggression, hostility, and man…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 07:32 PM
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They haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 12:08 AM
1

See? You're doing it now. "Insecure".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 07:28 PM
1

This is an argument that "having rape fantasies" and "wanting to be raped" are semantically equivalent, not that men should rape women. OP specifically points out the necessity of safe words, which is well established by mainstream BDSM.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 05:18 AM
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of course, but sex is integral.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 03:41 PM
3

you mean friendship?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 10:29 PM
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I think it's fair to say that the original post is more supported by the community than the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 05:55 AM
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When certain beliefs are pathologized, only the insane can have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 07:54 AM
2

People with autism have empathy, you're thinking sociopathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/14 04:17 AM
2

What does "25% more attractive" mean? I dont understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 11:16 PM
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Yes, I need to consciously run game - or at least I did before it became second nature. Women almost never hit on me, and the ones who do aren't as attractive as the ones I'm able to sleep with when I try. I've been told I meet a reasonable threshold of attractiveness. I didn't sleep with anyone before learning game, and not for lack of trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 11:08 PM
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I live alone, keep fit, have a hard job, and do all of my household chores, and I still have time for sex. It's not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/14 06:51 PM
0

Advice that only people in the "endgame" understand is useless to people just starting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/14 06:11 AM
2

It's fucking stupid. This is (in part) why I don't identify as a redpiller despite agreeing which TRP on many fronts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/14 05:30 AM
3

It's in the second sentence of the article OP linked, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/14 05:00 AM
4

Oh not this "TRP literally mass murder!" shit again.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/14 02:57 AM
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The barefoot dude with the pony tail who never gets riled up and always has weed to share with anyone? Never gets riled up = power over emotions. Always has weed = social power. The guy who plays acoustic guitar with the big eyes and the bigger heart? Ability to hold a crowd's sway and write beautiful music? Power. TRP doesn't deny the mix is effective, but it needs both parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/14 02:50 AM
2

A better comparison is Chinese foot-binding. Both excess fat and bound feet hinder health. Lifting boosts health.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 10:34 PM
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It's hated because the people who understand its nuances in its TL;DR format don't need the advice, and those who don't understand the nuances aren't helped by the TL;DR format. The long version is good advice, the short version is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 06:41 PM
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No, that was the part where I asked you to clarify a tautology. Saying that some men are able to sleep around because they are "fuckable" doesn't explain anything. I would've called bullshit if you chalked it up to some sort of unknowable "X-factor", but your followup explanation works.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 11:09 PM
6

What makes a man fuckable?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 10:41 PM
6

Elsewhere in this topic, /u/strategicatomicmoose refers to "low standards" as a justification.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 10:02 PM
1

Why is pregnancy a con but birth a pro?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 02:21 AM
3

Giving birth isn't a con? Not needing to expel a large object from one of my orifices to reproduce is on my list of perks of being male.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/14 08:18 PM
2

Wants (at least close to) the same number of kids (ltr only), levelheadedness, intelligence, compatible values and beliefs (ltr only), sense of humor, compatible hobbies
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 06:36 PM
1

I'm tall, brown, and extremely attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 06:28 PM
-4

Men do this too. "Affluenza" guy, for example. It's not just women.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/14 07:53 PM
2

Try the StayFocusd extension!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 12:40 AM
2

just because it's exasperating to you doesn't mean it's exasperating to everyone. You're projecting your experiences on other people where it doesn't apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 04:27 PM
6

But you definitely can't be very good at it if you didn't have quite a few. completely untrue. My second best partner in terms of sex quality was a virgin when we first started out, but she was enthusiastic and a quick learner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 04:25 PM
1

I disagree. I think it's possible to be attractive but present yourself in a bad light unintentionally. "Game" is about finding the best ways to represent your attractive qualities to others, and I think scripts have value as training wheels if they're truthful.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 06:28 PM
1

Do you think manipulation is inherent to PUA?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 10:42 PM
3

Maybe you can't prove it in the scientific sense, but some studies certainly back up some of their tenets.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 09:36 PM
3

Wait, what? Eating disorders definitely kill - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deaths_from_anorexia_nervosa.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/14 07:48 PM
1

When TRP men of the US complain about their wives being all cheaty and lusty... I don't understand it. Maybe you are too rich and basically your wife does not need to work and gets bored. Maybe you locked your wife into a boring, pointless suburbian housewife experience. Maybe this is the reason why you experience so much cheating. Or maybe because you married not with an alliance for life mindset but just "locking down access to a hot pussy" maybe you found a silly hot babe and made the mistake…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 08:45 PM
2

I lumped seddit in with TRP in terms of dating advice (as opposed to theory). It's not that the two are the only sources of good advice, but they have the best signal to noise ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 05:14 AM
2

Where does he claim this is something he deserves or is owed? You're injecting that where it didn't previously exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 03:59 AM
5

But none of that advice is unique to TRP. It can be found elsewhere. You'd be surprised. It's very rare compared to the phony advice being proffered.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 03:54 AM
2

I think my dad turned out alright. He is an immigrant though.
/r/TheRedPill06/04/14 07:41 PM
2

Everyone gets rejected once in a while, even well-hung billionaires with wings.
/r/TheRedPill04/04/14 12:06 AM
7

5% of reported cases being conclusively false is a significant number of conclusively false accusations in absolute terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 02:08 AM
4

It sounds to me like you're looking for an incredibly specific form of help. How is "young man seeking casual sex" incredibly specific? Not everyone is a young socially awkward guy who needs help figuring out how to [...] approach women. No, but loads of people are, and they're going to turn to /r/theredpill and /r/seduction if that's where they can actually get proper advice. (I cut out the part in ellipses because that isn't what we were discussing). Saying /r/sex isn't a valid resource to go …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 10:26 PM
3

Did you even read those links? They're useless from the perspective of a young man, particularly an inexperienced one. The first one sums up to "Try going to a bar or a club, or ask a friend, or look online. Make sure to communicate." Zero advice about how to approach a woman at a bar, for example, just "go to a bar". Number two is about a woman's perspective, asking about a guy she has already exchanged numbers with. It doesn't apply here. Number three is not the worst idea in the world, it doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 09:59 PM
2

I know how the search box works. Show me a post or two there that you think gives good advice for a young man seeking casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 06:19 PM
2

That's about sex, not dating and attraction. Only some stuff buried on /r/social skills has been remotely useful outside of seddit and Trp.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 05:56 PM
5

But you/the site didn't give advice for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 05:03 PM
1

For some people, their default ways of interaction attract others. For others, such ways of interaction have to be learned with conscious effort and goal-setting. What's crazy about that? You seem to be seeing correlations (people with the stated goal of "getting some" often need to expend conscious effort to have sex) and drawing conclusions without taking other factors into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 06:24 PM
9

Do they claim it's restricted to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/14 03:27 AM
5

and women too
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 07:32 PM
3

Would you be fine with 30-year-old woman doing this to a 30-year-old man? At what ages of man and woman would you endorse (or at least not disapprove of) a women trying to have a child by an unwilling or unaware father and extract child support? If there aren't any such ages, this analogy doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 07:26 PM
1

Is it weird? Sure. But not necessarily bad or "weirded out".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 07:12 PM
0

A little at first, but it passed quickly. Edit: College/high school dating isn't even out of the ordinary at all, for a legal-age high schooler and a college student who's attending college in their early 20s.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/14 07:35 PM
2

I think we're talking about different parts of the article. I was referring to this: Though he acknowledges that early feminists had legitimate goals such as “securing voting rights, achieving educational parity, and opening employment channels for women”, he maintains a position of patriarchy denialism/apologism. Though the implications of this attitude are arguably less severe, it bears a similarity with that of neo-Nazis who simultaneously deny the occurrence of the Holocaust as a hoax perpet…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 05:51 AM
4

Nothing to say about how the author asserts that rejection of the feminist Patriarchy model bears a similarity to advocating genocide? You can't reason with that kind of dogma.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 05:49 AM
9

I can't take this essay seriously. The author is trying to claim that rejection of the feminist Patriarchy model "bears a similarity" with Holocaust denial and Nazi advocation of genocide. Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/14 05:55 PM
1

. . . if you'll excuse me, I have a Kickstarter to make.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/14 05:52 PM
3

For example if you have sex with a large number of people but demand to marry a virgin, the problem is that it's not a very sensible or consistent desire. Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/14 10:11 PM
2

True, but "right to reject" is different from having better or worse reasons to reject someone (i.e. "s/he's violent and alcoholic" vs. "s/he's Irish, and I hate the Irish").
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/14 02:40 AM
2

It's still a false dichotomy. Those two options (drugs or corporal punishment) aren't the only two.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/14 10:40 PM
3

I don't see 'tender' as 'unmasculine' I see them as two separate things. So does /u/SirNemesis in his post above.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/14 08:55 PM
4

25.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/14 04:48 PM
2

And what makes you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 08:13 PM
5

I think you're misinterpreting me. I didn't say men shouldn't need to do all that, I'm saying that the social flack women get for approaching is of the same magnitude as the flack men get for approaching, although the nature of it is different. In other words, it's already as "possible" for women as it is for men. If you just meant "men can make it easier" then I would agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 07:53 PM
5

IF YOU WANT WOMEN TO APPROACH YOU, BE WELCOMING. BY BEING WELCOMING YOU INCREASE THE CHANCES OF IT HAPPENING AGAIN AND IT DIRECTLY BENEFITS YOU. Oh, I don't disagree. I'm never rude to a woman who approaches me, even if I reject her. But you seem to be implying that since some men throw up social obstacles when women approach, it's not a good idea for women to approach until these obstacles are removed. I'm saying that as a practical matter, the only way to remove those obstacles is for women to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 07:30 PM
6

Do you think men don't often get less-than-pleasant responses when approaching women? And I mean beyond mere rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 07:19 PM
5

But men can help by making environments where such a thing is possible. What do you mean? There's nothing holding back women from approaching men in general, any more than there's anything holding men back from approaching women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 07:16 PM
4

How is it a temporary workaround? And do you have a better idea? I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to by "all the PUA crap".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 06:18 PM
5

Nothing will change if you dig in your heels and stay put. For this to change, women have to change by starting to approach men. Men can't really do anything to change this status quo. If women start approaching me, great, but either way I'll still be approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 04:50 PM
1

For the same reason that eating a slice of pizza and kissing may use the exact same set of nerve endings, but only a small minority consider pizza default foreplay. I don't get it. It's not like incidental breast-on-breast contact or the like is as removed from foreplay as eating pizza is from kissing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 07:41 AM
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Not necessarily. A lot of niceguystm aren't so much shy manipulative assholes as they are guys who literally think that their approach is the proper, decent way to do romance. I mean, it is totally wrongheaded, but they lack manipulative intent and think they're doing the right thing. Point two: you're presupposing that TRP says "be an asshole". I think a better way to phrase it would be "if a substantial fraction of attractive women, through their actions, display positive reactions to certain …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 06:24 AM
7

We have the right to own guns, but we don't have guns provided to us for free (USA).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/14 10:47 PM
-1

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/discourse Discourse =/= debate. What /u/AdmiralVonJackass said is accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/14 10:42 PM
1

Get roommates.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/14 10:37 PM
15

The title is misleading. Providing free birth control =/= right to birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/14 10:36 PM
3

I disagree. I've worked with female software developers, and every one of them (no exceptions) was on par with the male developers with the same jobs, both technically and in levelheadedness.
/r/TheRedPill16/03/14 06:59 PM
1

Are you male or female? Straight, gay, bi, other?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/14 10:09 PM
1

I don't think that any scientist would say that a lower number is automatically better. It is somewhat cultural. for example, in developed societies, it's a 0.7, but for some isolated tribes, it's 0.9, with a greater focus on the hourglass figure as viewed from the side as opposed to as viewed from the front. I think this is because in those societies it's more of an advantage to hold onto store food because it's so scarce. At any rate, if your waist hip ratio is too low it's a sign of potential…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 10:12 PM
0

I don't buy it. It's a useful heuristic, and ambiance counts, but I've been to empty spots with great food.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/14 08:10 PM
5

there are plenty of cultures where long hair is attractive on men, historically speaking. I don't think the same is true of short hair on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 04:21 PM
28

False dichotomy. There's nothing mutually exclusive about executing a strategy on the one hand and being genuine and treating people like people on the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 08:05 PM
1

Sometimes split parents are better than married ones. Friend of mine's dad became a total junkie after marriage/kids, and it was better without his dad around. Not a normal situation though.
/r/TheRedPill11/03/14 05:29 PM
1

Can't Hardly Wait. Preston and Amanda.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 06:08 PM
-1

She is not a foreign species. True, but she's not a man, either. How much scope is there to recognize that men and women behave differently on a biological level whilst still remaining within your parameters of what counts as recognizing someone else's humanity? For the record, TRP doesn't require the belief that women as a group are "repugnant", "inferior", or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 11:53 PM
18

Absolutely agree with this article. It's insulting to be lied to over and over and be told that either 1. those lies were never spoken or 2. we were supposed to ignore them - but only at certain times (times which we were somehow supposed to figure out). Most salient example: the movie Can't Hardly Wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 07:31 PM
-1

Because the impression I get is that it's very against men having families. Not in general. I also get the impression that TRP dislikes the natural order of things and attempts to subvert it? Define "natural order".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 06:36 PM
3

I actually think they have a point. "Be vulnerable" is vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 04:37 AM
1

Humans are literally apes. The cold facts of sexual economics apply just as much to us as they do to other animals, and there's nothing immoral about recognizing this fact. Human males have a much lower reproductive cost than females, even in modern society. In species where this is the case, females tend to be the choosy sex. In species where this is reversed, like the pipe fish, males are the choosy sex. This results in different and often conflicting sexual strategies between men and women. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 12:35 AM
3

And your advice isn't anecdotal?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 11:20 PM
1

Only once virtual reality tech improves.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/14 05:52 PM
1

Please explain why it's dehumanizing then, keeping in mind that the scale is for measuring looks only, not overall value as a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 05:51 PM
0

If it works, it doesn't work for the reasons they say it works.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/14 05:46 PM
1

Godwin's Law.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 03:22 AM
1

Gotcha. I should have clarified - when I said "Well, we do hear over and over again that kind of thing isn't sexy, so it's kind of a shock when we first learn some girls are actually into that sort of thing", I meant that we Asian boys hear over and over that being good at math isn't sexy (neutral at best, unattractive at worst), so it's a shock that some girls actually do find it attractive - not that we're shocked that some girls enjoy studying math.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 02:55 AM
1

I don't understand what you mean - is it that there was less negative stereotyping about white girls doing advanced math in high school back then vs. now? If you're arguing that you too faced negative stereotypes back then, I'm not disagreeing with you on that subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 12:38 AM
1

Well, we do hear over and over again that kind of thing isn't sexy, so it's kind of a shock when we first learn some girls are actually into that sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 11:35 PM
2

Cultural stereotypes and cultural differences work against us in ways they do not for men of other races.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 09:46 PM
1

True. There's just very little there for struggling straight men right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 09:22 PM
2

It doesn't have much of anything useful for straight men. If we're just talking about sex, the task is far more complex from a straight male standpoint than from a straight woman or gay man's standpoint. I don't know how it works for lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 05:55 AM
2

Bullshit. Everything about this reads as trolling or utter cluelessness. Edit: yep, check OP's posting history.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/14 02:05 AM
1

that's interesting. It does sound like a logistically difficult situation. have you had luck with online dating? Because it sounds like your best bet to me. when we say it doesn't apply to non heterosexual relationships, we don't mean that the principles don't apply so much as we mean that we don't have the experience, qualifications, or authority, to properly comment on the situation. at least in my understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/14 05:09 PM
1

Pay it forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/14 05:09 PM
3

It's putting some kind of 'objective' numeric value on a human being based on their looks. What? At no point did anyone say that the 1-10 looks scale measured a woman or man's personality or overall value as a human being. For example, my childhood pediatrician is an amazing, personable, and whip-smart 70-year-old woman who would be near the bottom of the 1-10 scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 10:47 PM
1

So you'd help physically unattractive men seeking sex with physically attractive women if the men don't use the number scale and incorrectly consider themselves physically attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 07:12 PM
3

What advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 07:04 PM
3

Only if you think the only way to have sex is to be an asshole to women. "Being an asshole" is a subjective description, on which reasonable people can disagree in various circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 07:01 PM
1

I'm pretty sure some retailers already do this.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/14 08:35 PM
2

Why is it fine for an attractive man to seek attractive women, but when an unattractive man seeks attractive women, he's a dehumanizing asshole? Because that was your original statement, not that people who use this number scale were assholes regardless of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 08:21 PM
1

Yeah, in addition to apartheid worsening for decades after South African independence, the Partition of India just went so well. /s
/r/TheRedPill26/02/14 06:26 AM
7

You're dodging the question - can it happen, and if so, how? If not, how could he raise his looks scale number?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 06:15 AM
4

You've never seen a plain looking dude with an attractive woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 05:23 AM
4

Also, I won't help a guy who is 5 or lower try to get a 6 or higher out of principle. Why is that? And do you mean 5 and 6 on the looks scale?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 01:59 AM
7

I believe he's asking what a guy can do to make himself "super hot".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 01:52 AM
7

If that's your conclusion, you have to defend it rather than presupposing it. Your assumption that you don't need to defend your conclusion is evidence of slant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 08:16 PM
5

You gave an answer that presupposed that TRP is bigoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 07:41 PM
0

Yeah, .1% doesn't sound right at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 07:24 PM
9

IQ variance, for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 07:16 PM
6

If you're not trying to convince anyone, why are you posting on a debate forum?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 07:11 PM
3

You have to convince them that they are bigoted in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 04:41 PM
-2

I've watched season 1 - season 2 only came out last week. I'm not asking anyone to hide/warn season 1 spoilers.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/14 05:07 PM
4

"Don't be a doormat" means not to let others take advantage of you. Problem is, people have different opinions on whether or not someone is actually taking advantage of you in many different situations. TRP often disagrees with mainstream groups on these matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/14 06:18 AM
0

Then a simple spoiler warning.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/14 05:17 AM
1

I haven't had a chance to watch season 2 yet, could you please hide spoilers?
/r/TheRedPill22/02/14 02:28 AM
13

Buried amongst other toxic bullshit of much higher volume, like "just be yourself" and "don't sexualize women".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/14 05:53 PM
10

Those aren't dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/14 05:51 PM
1

There's an element of fantasy to every movie. It's more than a mere element here, but that's not obvious without the real-world experience that backs up that knowledge. On the one hand you say men have been lied to by movies like Say Anything. On the other hand you say the movie offers ridiculous impractical advise that would lead to failure. Which is it? That's not a contradiction. It's only clear that it's bad advice after someone tries it and fails with it, repeatedly. But sometimes it segues…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/14 05:49 PM
3

"Don't sexualize girls" =/= "if you're seeking sex with a girl, don't get sexual too early", which is also not a good blanket rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/14 09:13 PM
5

That behavior is not the same thing as "don't sexualize girls".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/14 09:06 PM
3

It's kind of hard to feel bad about PUA material when it changed me from a dateless virgin to someone who had moderate success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/14 09:02 PM
1

Teen comedies are marketed to teen boys and girls, not just women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/14 08:54 PM
1

I'm writing a response to the Say Anything one now. I still contend it portrays Lloyd's behavior as unrealistically effective. Edit: response written
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/14 08:27 PM
1

Diane is not remotely a dweeb. She may be socially isolated, but she has loads of social status because she's pretty, intelligent, and not an asshole. Everyone was excited to meet her at the party. A real dweeb would be ignored at best. It's also incredibly rare for a girl that attractive, smart, and friendly to have no friends. Seriously? She has no peer social circle? I went to high school with a girl whose strict Chinese parents forbade her to be out with friends after 8 pm. She did well enou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/14 08:23 PM
4

Shoe lifts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/14 07:45 PM
3

No, they're assholes to girls too, in the sense that they make them upset from time to time. Obviously they don't say the same things in front of women as they do in front of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/14 07:44 PM
6

Did not do well with women. Asked my friends for advice. Got nowhere. Read seddit/pua material and tried it out. Saw middling results. Refined my approach. Saw better results. Found TRP. A significant part of it, though not all of it, lined up with my observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/14 07:38 PM
5

"Don't sexualize girls" (i.e. young adult women, not literally children below the age of consent) is in fact terrible advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/14 04:45 AM
1

Just some recognition that even though some short guys can be more successful with women than some tall guys, it's still an uphill battle for them since they have to face significant obstacles that tall guys don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 07:00 PM
4

does it say if these two girls were trained in martial arts? it doesn't sound like they had any reason to believe they would be able to fight effectively.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/14 06:13 PM
1

The issue is with absolute height, not relative height.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 05:57 PM
2

5 feet 9 inches is not short.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 05:24 PM
3

I'm tall myself, didn't need to get over it. Your comment seems to downplay the real issues that short guys face.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 05:01 PM
3

You're delusional if you think that tall guys and short guys have it equally hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 04:39 AM
1

Because there's a rather persistent cultural trope these days taught to young males that trying to change yourself is fundamentally deceitful and/or bound to end in failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 04:32 AM
0

...aaaand Godwin's Law.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 04:27 AM
2

Actually, OP's premise is wrong. Lots of stories on TRP are questioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 04:22 AM
2

The success stories that aren't field reports got moved to a related sub, I think. Not sure of the name.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 04:20 AM
1

Source? I want to read more.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/14 02:47 AM
1

It's more than that - it's where their history as friends makes it harder to see the other person as attractive than if they had just met. The way you've phrased it, it's just plain rejection/one-sided interest.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/14 07:53 PM
0

I'm not a total Redpiller, but I do frequently end up on their side.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 06:28 PM
12

TRP also says that looks have very little to do with attraction Do you even read TRP? They talk about the importance of looks rather often.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 05:24 PM
2

Doesn't change shit. His advice is to tell him to aim lower, partly because he's brown, instead of telling him to boost his baseline attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 03:07 AM
4

Oh for fuck's sake this is terrible advice. Just look at this line: Obviously, if the girl is much taller than you and blonde and white and has fake tits, she just made eye contact with you by accident. bullshit. it's like they're trying to undermine the reader's self-confidence from the get-go. Jesus FUCK the "nonwhite men don't deserve hot women" REALLY pisses me off. I'm ethnically Indian. This cuntwipe is trying to screw me and everyone who looks like me over by telling us to settle for seco…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 02:51 AM
4

Anti-feminism =/= anti-women Feminism, while it isn't perfect, still has its sights set on changing cultural norms. Often to the detriment of men (e.g. presumption of guilt).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/14 04:05 AM
1

OK then, sociopath away. Don't be surprised when society shuns you, though. They made this movie called The Wolf of Wall Street . . .
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/14 03:50 AM
0

Psychoanalysis is bullshit. Freud's chief contribution was the notion of the unconscious, which was pioneering, but psychoanalysis has been rendered obsolete by actual research psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/14 03:46 AM
7

Your heart is in the right place, but you don't entirely understand where we're coming from, and in fact I haven't seen any BPs mention this at all in these comments so far: We're angry because we've been told by both women and men that the way to a woman's heart is by getting to know her as friends first, taking things slowly and not being presumptuous or sexually forward because that's insulting, being there for her whenever she's down and offering emotional support, etc., and when she trusts …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/14 01:41 AM
20

Occasionally I'll see a beautiful woman and feel compelled to say something along the lines of "excuse me, miss? I just wanted to say I think you have a stunning smile and thanks for brightening up my day"... I typically say this in a sincere and non-sexual manner and then try to make it clear I want nothing in return out of the comment either by re-engaging in my own activity or making an appropriate exit. gag
/r/TheRedPill04/02/14 06:35 AM
17

I'm the most valuable person to myself. But to a society, an average woman is less replaceable than an average man for reproductive purposes.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/14 06:29 AM
14

Know what happened to Russia in WWII?
/r/TheRedPill04/02/14 06:11 AM
28

Women are more valuable than men On an individual level, that's not a lie. Societal reproduction rate is limited by wombs, not testicles or dicks or anything else men have.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/14 05:54 AM
1

Now, women don't need men. Perhaps not, but you do want us.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 03:06 AM
6

But then MRA's blame women for these problems instead of looking inward. They blame modern feminism, not women (barring a few genuine misogynists in the movement). They're not even remotely close. If you take offense to "Feminists blame men for these problems instead of looking inward", you're a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 03:01 AM
0

Wombs limit the reproductive rate of a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 03:40 AM
-1

That's more about being fit in modern society where the advantages of being light outweigh the advantages of having a large amount of stored food energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/14 05:39 PM
-1

It's masturbation using someone else's rented body. It's like virtual-reality sex, or a particularly realistic Realdoll. It's not morally wrong, but we want to actually attract a woman as well as have sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/14 05:34 PM
11

Sex isn't that big a deal. It's not. Bullshit. it really is okay to hire a sex worker. You don't get it. It's not about the mechanics of the act.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/14 09:05 PM
0

It differs based on context, and that's why we have a whole subreddit to discuss best practices in different contexts. Anyone can proclaim themselves a master even if they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/14 02:09 AM
2

"Being nice" was in the context of not making a scene at the bar or being an asshole in general, not in the context of not raping an unconscious girl.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/14 12:56 AM
1

I don't think there is an easy way to sleep with 9's and 10's. No one says there are - just comparatively easier ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/14 12:24 AM
1

Why? What beta behaviors do the characters perform that are rewarded?
/r/TheRedPill31/01/14 11:22 PM
3

Right, but the movie doesn't promote the Blue Pill as a good thing. Tom is beta, but he gets smacked around for his poor decisions until he stops being beta, looks at his life realistically, and takes initiative.
/r/TheRedPill31/01/14 11:18 PM
3

I think it's a deconstruction - Summer leaves Tom for someone else in the end. The movie doesn't lie and say that beta behavior works to your advantage.
/r/TheRedPill31/01/14 11:07 PM
3

I agree, but what do you think are the worst of the worst? The best and most classic examples?
/r/TheRedPill31/01/14 11:01 PM
3

I think Blue Valentine is actually a deconstruction of Blue Pill tropes (spoilers) - he ends up in a loveless shell of a marriage with a kid that isn't his. His wife forces him out of their home after he drunkenly assaults her boss and he ends up alone with nowhere to go, little money, and few skills beyond some basic manual labor skills (moving and painting). Heartiste describes it as Say Anything, but five years later after the "happy ending".
/r/TheRedPill31/01/14 11:00 PM
1

It's a good place to sharpen your rhetorical skills for those times when you really need to convince someone - like your friend who has almost taken the pill but starts hesitating.
/r/TheRedPill31/01/14 10:32 PM
1

And no one said there's a way to guarantee that a man can sleep with any woman of his choice. This is well-known to TRP (though some non-TRP PUAs do indeed make this absurd claim to sell their brand). Just because everyone has different skills, looks, and abilities doesn't mean it's fruitless to do your absolute best to work with what you've got to improve them and maximize your successes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 09:58 PM
2

Why does wanting to sleep with attractive people and trying to figure out the best ways to do so make anyone of either sex "entitled"? Entitlement would be saying you deserve it in your present state, not merely desiring it or asking for help. Entitled men and women both exist. You meet them if you get unlucky. Also, you seem to think that people can't change their attractiveness level. There are limits, but there's also a lot of leeway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 08:53 PM
1

So you don't like it when women trawl for hot dudes either?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 08:17 PM
2

But you can't wear a suit everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 08:15 PM
1

There are no algorithms, but there are better options and worse options.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 08:06 PM
4

at the end of the day, assuming heterosexuality, men and women are having the same amount of sex Not necessarily. The averages will be the same, but the medians are most likely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 06:30 PM
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That's like saying "If you want to be rich, you should invest in companies with competent management teams and strong financial fundamentals". It's technically correct, but it doesn't help with key details like the methods one could use to evaluate the competence of management teams. I mean, it's leaps and bounds above "just be a good, reliable person until women start recognizing your inner beauty and finding themselves lusting after you", but it's still too abstract.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 08:20 AM
1

Are you a 9 or 10? If not that might be your answer. It's only one answer. Physically unattractive men can sleep with very attractive women if they satisfy other conditions. TRP attempts to address what those other conditions are if one can't raise one's physical appearance far enough to use a "model-good-looks" strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 08:07 AM
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Then approach hot women for sex. Be funny and self assured. Please elaborate. How would you advise men to approach and start a conversation, for common meeting places like bars, dance clubs, daytime activities in a social circle, bookstores, etc.? What behaviors demonstrate that they are self-assured? What kind of humor is appropriate and when, and how can they learn to improve their ability to get others to laugh? What potential obstacles do they need to watch for? How should they attempt to st…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 07:48 AM
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Having standards for a partner/sex partner you yourself cannot meet is hypocritical at best. Only if men and women value the same traits as attractive, which they clearly do not. There are loads of powerful or artistically successful but not very attractive men sleeping with very attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 07:45 AM
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they all have different preferences and standards No they don't! Everyone's different on the fine details, but from a more broad standpoint there are clear trends that emerge as "attractive" and "unattractive". This goes for both genders. Men and women aren't enigmas when it comes to attracting them, and saying that they are is terrible advice. Technically, everyone does have different preferences, but oftentimes the differences are tiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 07:38 AM
1

Not always. There are interesting questions to discuss when considering why male killers get groupies. Doesn't mean discussing them is tantamount to advocating murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 06:14 AM
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but we are not animals This is factually incorrect. We are most certainly animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 05:16 PM
1

Among your partners who are male submissives, how often did you approach them for the first time and vice versa? Were you interested in them before you knew they were sexually submissive?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 02:36 AM
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Feminine men in terms of behavior, not clothing. Furthermore, it wasn't like they were trying to wear these clothes in an effort to normalize them among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 01:39 AM
1

I mean, how does the dynamic get brought up (assuming the meeting isn't from the BDSM scene or preference for the dynamic isn't explicitly mentioned in an online profile)? Who brings it up first, and when? Does it arise over time, or does the discussion happen before having sex for the first time, or something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 01:35 AM
1

In localized areas or on a widespread basis?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 12:51 AM
1

How do female dommes and male subs usually enter into such a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 12:40 AM
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To point out how different this is from the male POV, a lot of men would have no problem sexually dominating (consensually, of course) an attractive woman that they do not respect at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 12:36 AM
1

It seems like it is scary for guys to do things that seem 'gay', not just for fear of defying social norms but that it is deeply disconcerting. I know what you mean - what I'm saying is plenty of straight men don't have a deep-seated fear of doing 'gay' things, but since their lack of such a deep-seated fear isn't really something that comes up in conversation, you only hear from the people with such a concern. Therefore, to those who aren't straight males, this attitude sounds much more prevale…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 09:11 PM
1

I'll determine that for myself once you clarify "identity needs to be less rigid".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 05:37 PM
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a lot of straight male identity is based on homophobia Seriously? You're serious about this claim? I think your sample is skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 02:41 AM
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All three of those comments are solidly negative. You're cherry-picking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 02:32 AM
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That comment is at -10, it's not really a good example.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 02:30 AM
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Men don't seem to have this certainty and confidence about being straight. The men who are certain in their heterosexuality rarely have any reason to talk about it. It just doesn't come up that often in conversation. I mean, I'm straight, I can't remember the last time I've explicitly mentioned my sexual orientation in real life. I think it was a few years ago when I was talking about Prop 8. It's selection/availability bias, plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 02:28 AM
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Clarify what "straight male identity needs to be less rigid" means, because it sounds a lot like someone disapproving of the current status of straight masculine identity in general. TRP folks are pushing back against that kind of character attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 02:16 AM
1

I don't question your motives, but do you really think this will solve anything? http://xkcd.com/386/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/14 04:15 AM
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"Unpolished" is a value judgment, beyond mere description. Also "younger adult women inherently lack communication skills". Don't be cute and claim you're using neutral language about women in the 18-30 range and the the men who seek them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 05:15 AM
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What makes this a shaming statement? It's often attributed to men who aren't remotely saying anything of the sort in an attempt to orstracize them and silence their viewpoints.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 05:07 AM
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Approaching 18-30year old women are advantageous because many of them have unpolished behavior, and can act more emotional than maybe necessary for any particular event. Oh hey, more shaming of men who are attracted to the most basic fertility cues. And you wonder why so many people take TRP seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 04:30 AM
2

Women as a group often say one thing and do another in specific circumstances, but trying to point this out anywhere else gets you censored and ostracized. Media representations of romantic dynamics are often wildly flawed and not representative of real life. It's easy for a man to be so misinformed that he can never get the real-wolrd experience to correct his misperceptions. An individual man is much less important for the species's survival than an individual woman. You can't change it, so ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 04:17 AM
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ITT: Bluepillers downvoting the shit out of Redpillers just for answering the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 03:57 AM
1

I actually plan to get off Reddit for a while (dealing with some unexpected accidents IRL) but I'm interested in hearing your assessments of the movie!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 01:57 AM
1

So we agree on premise, you think Say Anything admonish men to be the "Nice Guy" as the male protagonist ends up getting the girl and it perpetuates a "Be a Nice Guy" myth among men, which backfires in real life? Did I get that right? Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 04:42 AM
0

[Citation needed] Have the most sex =/= pass on genes the most
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 12:53 AM
-1

He needs to get himself some Adderall. The health benefits likely outweigh the costs.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/14 12:47 AM
1

Gotcha, that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 11:15 PM
1

Results vary, but a lot of people see benefits, and the potential upsides outweigh the downsides. At the bare minimum, it's major training for your self-control, and you'll come out of it with more discipline if nothing else.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/14 08:13 PM
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Even if that were true, which I highly doubt, I'd take slightly less strength plus sex, rather than slightly more strength and no sex.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/14 08:05 PM
1

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098258/synopsis - plot to "Say Anything", where almost everything that Lloyd Dobbler does (which borders on stalkerish, mind) ends up working out in his favor. I suppose Teen Comedy might be the genre I'm referring to. I'm not denying men play a part in this too, I'm just saying that the whole "nice guy" shtick that no one on Reddit likes gets portrayed in a positive light in popular media way too often, and some boys tend to idolize that. Also, I'm not really saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 07:37 AM
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The movies I'm using as examples aren't power fantasies for either sex, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 06:05 PM
1

Why should Trp believe Tbp when Tbp doesn't believe Trp?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 07:45 AM
0

I think I used the wrong term for the genre. What does Can't Hardly Wait fall under?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 07:42 AM
0

Are you arguing that hair characteristics (shape, shininess, texture, etc.) are not inheritable?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 09:12 AM
1

Adult human with XY chromosomes who doesn't identify himself as female-gendered (she would instead be a transwoman, and there's nothing wrong with that).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 05:23 AM
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having such a strong insistance about optional adornments was very unattractive to me Why is that? It sounds like he was passive-aggressive about it, but something like a large tattoo could badly impact the involuntary portion of one's attraction to another. Not saying you did this, but I don't think I could ever find a girl physically attractive if she got a skull tattooed over her entire face, which is an optional adornment that I think a lot of people would feel strongly about. It would be an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 05:16 AM
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Do you consider short hair on women to be a sign of passive aggression or even active defiance against men? No (unless they explicitly tell me so), but it's always less attractive than long hair on the same woman by a wide margin. I have never seen a woman who looks better with short hair than with long hair. No exceptions. I can still find a woman attractive if she has short hair, just less attractive than if she had long hair. However, crew cuts, buzz cuts, short-to-medium pixie cuts (longer p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 05:06 AM
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Having sex with a large number of attractive women is a difficult goal that requires skill, focus, and effort to accomplish. How is that not ambitious? Whether it's meaningful is a different question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 12:12 AM
0

There's a big difference between assertions (whether appropriately supported or not) and loaded questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 12:04 AM
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You just said that feminism thinks itself infallible. Not in the sense that feminists don't have internal debate - in the sense that they slander movements that attempt to tackle gender inequities outside of the feminist narrative as bigoted and misogynistic. Your labeling of MRAs as a general whole as "anti-woman" (not just specific individuals or organized groups under the umbrella) is a prime example of this. Blindly attributing patriarchy and benevolent sexism to men's problems? Name one gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 05:47 AM
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I'm not an MRA. Why do you jump to the conclusion that I don't understand feminism? It's precisely that attitude that disagreeing with the mainstream feminist movement means one is ignorant that causes the movement to draw backlash.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 01:59 AM
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JGL himself views his character in the movie unsympathetically.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/14 02:46 AM
0

This is just gossip.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/14 02:30 AM
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I stopped reading here And if you bothered to continue, you would have seen him backing his statement up with an actual argument, rather than the hands-in-your-ears option you seem to be fond of.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 01:50 AM
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Feminism blindly attributes the problems men face to "patriarchy", and "benevolent sexism", and other viewpoints (e.g. feminist-endorsed policy is actively putting men on a worse footing than women) are summarily dismissed. In feminism's eyes, feminism is infallible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 01:27 AM
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Circular reasoning. "TRP only works on damaged women because if it appeals to a woman, she must be damaged!"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 09:35 PM
2

What was the point you were trying to make by bringing up chicken soup in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 09:31 PM
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No, I see your position the way you're seeing mine (splitting hairs, arguing for the sake of it, etc.). Chicken soup makes you feel better, but you look like you're arguing that it's correlation and not causation when it actually is causation. Maybe it doesn't kill the viruses, but it heals the problems that the viruses generate - the problems that cause you to feel worse or better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 09:18 PM
1

It's not just once. It's repeatedly, over several years of trying different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 09:08 PM
1

It only took one or two relationships to realize that it was all bull. Many guys with warped understandings of relationships won't even get that chance - they won't be able to get into a relationship in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 09:07 PM
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But your analogy involved correlation vs. causation. It sounds like you're regarding chicken soup as a correlated factor to "getting better", not a causal factor. My point is that chicken soup causes you to get better (in the sense of having the same bodily experiences of a healthy person i.e. no negative symptoms) - it's not just a correlation. It's relevant to the analogy even if it defeats the physical symptoms rather than the viruses themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 09:05 PM
1

They don't get drafted for non-combatant roles either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 08:15 PM
1

If the woman doesn't care who she's having sex with, pretty much all you have to do is have a dick, and ask. You seem to be implying that attractive women who have casual sex don't have standards or preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 08:08 PM
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Because they're anonymous, for the most part. The anonymity of the claim renders it rather useless, largely because these claims cannot be corroborated. They can be corroborated if I use the tips in the reports and they work for me. I don't blindly follow TRP because someone told me he's getting laid because of it. I follow TRP because its advice gets me laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 08:05 PM
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Actually, chicken soup does actively cure cold symptoms. http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/12/the-science-of-chicken-soup/?_r=0 "Using blood samples from volunteers, he showed that the soup inhibited the movement of neutrophils, the most common type of white blood cell that defends against infection. Dr. Rennard theorizes that by inhibiting the migration of these infection-fighting cells in the body, chicken soup essentially helps reduce upper respiratory cold symptoms." "In general, the hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 07:59 PM
1

Love is not made up of constant grand gestures. Love is, in the day to day, pretty unremarkable for the cinema. How would any 12-year-old kid know that? Not only do they lack the life experience to recognize that, but since their views are shaped by it, they will continue to fail at love and fail to gain the experience they would need to realize the narrative is wrong. At least training montages get the steps right, if not the difficulty.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 07:50 PM
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Something more recent perhaps? Friends With Benefits, Crazy, Stupid Love perhaps? The pendulum is definitely swinging back in the other direction these days, but we didn't grow up with them. Men watch these movies and they take away the wrong message, because men were never the intended audience. That's not the whole picture. Women watch those movies, and when they gush about the "nice guy" male leads to men, men take their cues from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 07:45 PM
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You'll be hard pressed to find a mature person suggesting a guy should be a "nice guy". Are you familiar with the Romantic Comedy genre? Say Anything? Can't Hardly Wait? Any of those movies?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 07:08 PM
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Judging by the responses now, the times they are a-changin'.
/r/TheRedPill14/01/14 06:46 AM
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The world works when most people trust each other and the untrustworthy can be identified and punished and/or socially isolated.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/14 08:40 PM
0

http://www.returnofkings.com/13587/the-benefits-of-not-masturbating
/r/TheRedPill12/01/14 07:16 PM
1

Sometimes government provides the most practical solutions to widespread problems. Read Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle" (the parts about the meat factory, specifically) - do you really want to go back to the days where large corporations could put damn well whatever chemical-treated old flesh they pleased into their packages and sell it as high-quality meat? See also the US Army beef scandal, where bad beef poisoned US soldiers. The problem is when liberals jump to using government action without …
/r/TheRedPill12/01/14 07:14 PM
2

Unless you're far above-average.
/r/TheRedPill12/01/14 07:05 PM
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If she's 32, there's no way she's getting the attention of the most desirable men seeking an arranged marriage. That's as much a warning sign in Indian culture as it is in Western culture, if not more so (though I don't think it's as hard a cutoff as 25 "Christmas cake" is in Japanese culture). The problem with "Indian guys" vs. "white guys" is one of culture. Indian immigrants and first- and -second generation Indian-Americans realize that the courtship cultures are different, but not only are …
/r/TheRedPill12/01/14 06:55 PM
1

It also depends on where you live in the US. New Jersey, New York, and California have significant numbers of Indians and Indian-Americans (they are culturally different).
/r/TheRedPill12/01/14 06:38 PM
1

True, but neither does the average man, to be fair.
/r/TheRedPill12/01/14 04:20 AM
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"Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all of the others." I get the feeling that all of the people espousing these views wouldn't be so supportive if or when they end up in the underclasses. EDIT: For the record, I post regularly in TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/14 04:07 AM
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They succeed if people let them steal credit.
/r/TheRedPill11/01/14 08:40 AM
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Our closest relatives may not be enough. Humans have concealed ovulation (no overt signs), which changes male and female strategies compared to species with blatant female fertile periods. Humans are also unique in that it's really easy for one to kill another without a chance to react. A strong man can be killed by someone much, much weaker with cheap and widely-available technology (gun, knife, poison, etc.).
/r/TheRedPill11/01/14 08:39 AM
1

You moved in with her? Are you out of your goddamned mind?
/r/TheRedPill11/01/14 03:24 AM
1

At least some of them actually came out with it and told him he was boring. Then again, there was much more bullshit than good advice.
/r/TheRedPill11/01/14 03:15 AM
1

I have a Facebook, I just don't waste my time on it.
/r/TheRedPill11/01/14 03:02 AM
1

There's already /r/becomeaman.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 08:01 PM
1

Yeah, you probably won't reach the top of the pile until you're able to do this shit without thinking, but you're not going to get there without conscious application and assessment. It's like learning any other skill. First you screw up without realizing how you're screwing up, then you screw up but know where you're going wrong, then you work consciously at correcting your flaws as you identify them until excellence is second nature. Unconscious incompetence -> conscious incompetence -> consci…
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 05:36 AM
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There's a divide on TRP between those eschewing long-term relationships and those applying its concepts in long-term relationships. The latter would be considered old fashioned. I count myself as a member of the latter category.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/14 05:16 AM
0

The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men. It's in the sidebar - TRP's primary focus is sexual strategy.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 05:10 AM
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making me feel food Off topic: I know what you meant, but this is a hilarious image.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/14 12:22 AM
-1

Redpill ideas are often what would be considered "old fashioned", so I would strongly disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/14 12:19 AM
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I don't think black history classes are stupid toward whites like women's studies classes are stupid toward men. I would have gone with that.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/14 07:26 PM
1

I don't think she did anything illegal, just shitty. It doesn't sound like she encouraged the killer at all, the opposite really. She's a horrible person, but I think making what she did illegal wouldn't be a good idea.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/14 07:51 AM
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I do not care if it doesn't work, if it doesn't work, it isn't meant to. And this is why TRP tells guys not to take advice on dating girls from girls. I don't see why "be yourself" is bad advice even when it doesn't "work" It's bad advice because there are many, many ways in which one could "be himself", but some are better than others. Also because it implies that changing one's personality through honest effort is necessarily fakery instead of self-improvement. It tells guys to "Accept your lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 07:29 AM
2

"Be hot" is pointless because "hot" is completely subjective How so? I'm curious. Subjective physically, personality-wise, both? Edit - why the fuck is this downvoted to -2? My question above is sincere!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 07:26 AM
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RP only has a negative impact on men if they've been fed misconceptions and lies beforehand. Some men move beyond it, some don't. Either way, though, ugly truths are more helpful to a man than beautiful lies. If RP were wrong, then yes, I would agree that the RP mindset would be needlessly lonelier than the BP mindset, but I don't think RP is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 01:08 AM
1

I may be biased because my parents have been happily married for several decades, but I haven't given up on love. There's definitely a difference between a woman who views her partner as a utilitarian object and one who loves him. However, I still think women and men have different experiences of love for hardwired reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 01:00 AM
11

Eventually settle down with a girl who you never hope can be your equal. You misunderstand. I'm not looking for an equal, I'm looking for a complement. (Realistically speaking, I would be fine with several complements, but polygyny is socially tricky because on a larger scale it tends to create groups of very dissatisfied young males who will do anything to take from those they perceive to be hogging the pie). I think a lot of people in both TRP are wrong when they try to rank sex-based implemen…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 12:54 AM
1

Gay dudes can be stand-up alphas just like straight dudes; you seem to be implying the opposite (or at least that it's very unlikely).
/r/TheRedPill07/01/14 10:21 PM
2

Not to downplay the fact that she lied to him, which alone warrants a paternity test, but some doctors might underestimate this kind of thing because they don't want to accidentally give patients false hope.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/14 10:09 PM
2

Looking at the timeline, she was pregnant before Europe.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/14 10:06 PM
4

He can still leave her if she refuses a paternity test, though - she's already lied to him, and while it's not impossible that's he's the dad, it's real bloody unlikely.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/14 09:34 PM
3

I trust former alcoholics way more than former cheaters.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/14 09:33 PM
1

I think they can. Plenty of guys overlook important non-physical factors when they list the qualities they want in a girlfriend.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/14 08:45 PM
-2

I didn't think I'd have to specify that I was discussing consensual sex only, but I was discussing consensual sex only.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 08:34 PM
4

In species where the male has the higher reproductive cost (like some pipefish, where the males carry the eggs after they're fertilized until they hatch), the males are the selective ones when it comes to mating and females are more willing to spread their eggs around.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 07:49 AM
8

Women simply do not need to work as hard as men to be as successful That depends on how you and/or they define "success".
/r/TheRedPill07/01/14 07:08 AM
-10

If you want to read it, pay for a copy. They put the effort in to research and write it, the least you could do is compensate their efforts when you reap the benefits.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/14 09:09 PM
2

Does the article say which group is happier when there is no conflict?
/r/TheRedPill06/01/14 09:08 PM
1

Can you write about it?
/r/TheRedPill06/01/14 01:57 AM
4

. . . if I'm seeing this right, the owner of the account mentions both having a wife and having a husband. So unless it's a shared account, it's lying.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/14 01:50 AM
1

What do you do with all of that political theory knowledge?
/r/TheRedPill06/01/14 01:36 AM
1

I don't think lifting makes you interesting, just physically attractive (unless you compete).
/r/TheRedPill06/01/14 01:35 AM
1

Bullshit. Wrong. It's about straight male sexual strategy and the foundations of sexual dynamics. Anything else is incidental. "Alpha" on this sub is defined by sexual success first and foremost. This here is some feel-good bullshit.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/14 11:48 PM
3

It's about detailing sexual strategy that works, whether or not it's politically correct, with a focus on the biological and cultural foundations of sexual dynamics. I think /r/seduction was more about immediate tactics and self-improvement, gussied up to avoid offending outsiders as much as possible.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/14 11:46 PM
1

This is exactly what I'm talking about - who on any of those subreddits dares to say "being a good person is not a prerequisite to getting laid like a king" and gets upvoted? Denial of this is one of the biggest indications of a biased, sugarcoated treatment of male sexual strategy, by the way - it should be incredibly obvious to anyone discussing human sexual dynamics that asshole men sleep with highly desirable women on a regular basis. Who points out that women don't always say what they mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/14 09:49 PM
2

I think that while "narcissism" is unjustified (or at least not solely applicable to women), and that the language used unfairly paints men's love as morally better than women's love, the general concept is correct - that men and women have different experiences of love, and that a man assuming a woman loves like a man loves could find himself rudely awoken at any time. The problem with just saying "Don't take shit from anyone" is that people disagree on the concept of "shit" and what should be …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/14 09:16 PM
1

People often say things that shouldn't be taken at face value. I agree wholeheartedly with that, and I think my fellow TRP members who believe that men are more moral than women are wrong. Men say and do questionable to shitty things all the time. I just don't think it's necessary to add that qualification every time I talk about the subject in TRP. You're sabotaging your ability to have meaningful relationships by pretending they don't exist. Where did I say I don't think meaningful relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/14 08:48 PM
-1

Fair point. From what I've seen, though, it's still controversial or qualified without being wholly accepted. Look to the massive popularity of and subsequent controversy over 50 Shades of Grey, for example. Also consider the character Sam on New Girl or the character Adam on Girls. The dominant men will often eventually be revealed to be have secret "sweet" or "adorable" traits which aren't evident until well after these men and their women start having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/14 08:31 PM
1

"Women often say things that should not be taken at face value. Here are some common examples." You get branded as misogynistic everywhere else for pointing out discrepancies between women's common words and actions. They also (correctly) point out that if a woman has casually slept with many partners, especially those whom she describes as "assholes" or "jerks", but is trying to get you to commit now, it dramatically increases the chance that she's grudgingly using you as a backup plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/14 06:09 PM
2

No fat chicks.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/14 03:59 PM
1

That's a dude writing it.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/14 03:53 PM
1

Nah, all of my gay friends have more self-respect than to think that being "full of bullshit sometimes" is expected.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/14 03:49 PM
1

I don't see any reason to put it on my online dating profile or state it in real life unless the topic comes up. I just don't approach/send messages to fat chicks.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/14 03:36 PM
1

I plan to have kids, personally.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/14 05:36 AM
0

Lovelace is very well known among computer scientists. Hedy Lamarr is far better known as an actress, overshadowing her engineering work. Lize Meitner is unfairly pushed into the shadows, that's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 11:13 PM
6

According to this survey (http://royal.pingdom.com/2012/08/21/report-social-network-demographics-in-2012/), it's about 65% male and 35% female for US traffic. So it's not a giant disparity.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 08:11 PM
2

They don't look sarcastic to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 06:48 PM
1

Where was the Selena Gomez story? I can't find it in TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 06:46 PM
2

Having the right car, clothes, neighborhood, etc. is not going to get you a woman if you're a shallow, disrespectful, objectifying jerk that only sees women as gatekeepers of sex." You're joking, right? You've never seen a woman date an ostentatious jerk?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 04:56 AM
2

That's not a strawman. It may not be common behavior, but neither is it unseen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 10:54 PM
2

Women aren't bankers not because they're bad at it, but because the crazy amount of money made in banking doesn't improve their SMV enough justify the shitty aspects of the job.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 07:19 PM
1

I can point you to plenty of TRP stories that TBP accepts really happened. Are these just the ones which end in rejection? Congratulations, you share the position you're interrogating, here. My position is that lies on TRP are isolated events, while much of TBP thinks lying on TRP is pervasive and endemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 07:05 PM
-3

MFM threesome isn't cheating, though.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 06:53 PM
4

Many of them sound plausible to me because I've had similar experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 06:28 PM
1

Some of the reports match up enough with my experiences that yes, I believe them to be true; at the very least, I find these reports plausible because even if they are untrue, I've had real-life experiences that are close to what they describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 06:25 PM
0

Of course you could, but the question is whether lying on TRP is isolated or endemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 06:12 PM
1

Why are you bitter about the music industry/why is it deserved? Also, I'm curious about your experience wrt girls.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 06:23 AM
0

If we agree that alpha and beta exists on a spectrum then the taller, stronger male will innately be more alpha than someone not as big. Not always. Sometimes selective pressures favor smaller males over larger ones. For example, in a famine, someone who needs less food to maintain basic bodily functions has a survival advantage over someone who needs more.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 05:43 AM
4

I think you've got it backwards. I'm sure plenty of people knew he was a doctor, but without game it didn't do anything for him.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 05:00 AM
5

There are several problems with your response: It's not bunk at all, as there are widely reported examples of it happening: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/7024930/#.UsHP9f2-GlI . So even though it's rare, it's a very real concern for men. Some people crazy enough to do this are very, very good at hiding it. Suggesting "just don't have sex with someone you think is crazy enough to do this" isn't helpful since so many of them can fly under the radar with ease. "Just stick around for an hour" won't help…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 08:03 PM
2

I'm not sure this counts as hamstering - hamstering is rationalizing/lying to oneself, but here they may have just been lying to the researchers to save face/because they didn't trust them not to tell others.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/13 07:51 PM
14

Poe's Law. I can't tell whether or not this is satire.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/13 07:46 PM
5

Fuck your bullshit moralizing condescension, I like fucking around and I'm taking as many cookies as I want. I'll figure out how many that is on my own.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/13 08:27 AM
0

Every snowflake is unique, but they're usually translucent white and tend to be sized between a few millimeters and a few centimeters across.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/13 09:28 AM
6

I disagree. He puts no effort into his work but gets insecure, self-pitying and jealous when his more competent colleagues start to pull ahead of him. He monologues about how much he hates himself. His closest associates don't even recognize him most of the time, and even as a murderer he makes no lasting impact on the world.
/r/TheRedPill26/12/13 11:34 PM
14

Stop. Giving. Upworthy. Clicks.
/r/TheRedPill26/12/13 04:29 AM
2

This was just posted, and Upworthy is clickbait bullshit.
/r/TheRedPill26/12/13 01:56 AM
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