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avonv/r/askTRP30/11/17 11:59 PM
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Wow I read through some of the comments in your over thread. Just alarming, to say the least. Good on you for actually supporting your claims and taking a hard stance on something because you believe in it, not because it’s popular. So many people fishing for upvotes echoing groupthink. Painful.
/r/MensRights28/02/20 07:25 PM
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Got it. I must not have read that part. In that case I’d just cut losses and ignore because there’s no kind of explanation for that shit other than she was not very interested.
/r/askTRP13/03/18 08:47 PM
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From my vantage point you took a really passive course of action. You’re not going to friend zone yourself with a simple text if you already agreed to do something together, so you could have reached out during the day and said “just got off work. heading that way soon” or “what’s the plan for tonight” or a number of things. Instead it sounds like you waited for her to initiate (which she ultimately did although she was late) with a lot of uncertainty / speculation, and you weren’t satisfied wit…
/r/askTRP13/03/18 05:49 PM
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That’s life bro, are you just gonna sit there and complain about it? Or are you gonna make yourself better to compete with this guy? Like it or not, this guy is your competition and there are tons of guys just like him. You need to step up
/r/askTRP13/03/18 05:40 PM
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A 40 min drive isn’t shit. Hell, it is almost ideal because you can focus on all kinds of more important things during the week then pick a weekend day to rendezvous. And by that I mean have some drinks and invite them to stay the night since it’s a long drive. If you lived 5 mins away there might be all kinds of added pressure to do extracurricular junk. But like other posters have cautioned, if she’s in college you really can’t overcome that barrier of inertia in many ways.
/r/askTRP13/03/18 05:35 PM
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Two main rules: 1) Less is more. This is true golden rule of social media as far as I’m concerned. Do not post shit every day. And unless you’re an athlete or celeb with 100k followers, nobody cares that you just saw a sunset in the city you and your friends live. If this sunset was on vacation in Fiji? That’s different, because tagging the location that you’re in Fiji is a high value play and shits on everyone. 2) The more personal and/or funny, the better Mix it up. Social media is a distracti…
/r/askTRP13/03/18 05:26 PM
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Bro just do it, you’re already thinking too much about it. It’s a hockey game... just say you were given tickets. Big difference if you bought them, but even then it’s fine if you wanted to do that.
/r/askTRP13/03/18 04:45 PM
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Not too sure if I can relate, but it’s natural to feel overlooked at times, whether in your career, your dating life, with your friends, etc. The key factor is to be willing to do something about it, which most people will not do. Having inadequate thoughts in the first place is pretty passive, in polar opposite to “I’m going to set my own personal goals and achieve that shit regardless of whether or not people notice or praise me along the way.” You can’t worry about what others think, but you …
/r/askTRP08/03/18 02:38 AM
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Wut
/r/askTRP06/03/18 03:29 AM
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You're putting yourself in a corner too easily. Give people a reason to want to engage further. 1) "My intentions were to meet up and have a drink with you. Don't be so weird about it" 2) Just ignore her qualifier... and go for it. Just don't label shit preemptively with her and ask her out anyway. 3) Call her a cum dumpster and delete her number. Seriously, you already hit that so why do you give a fuck? Plenty of other women. In all these situations, it sounds like these chicks were forgettabl…
/r/askTRP05/03/18 08:20 PM
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I’ve been there. To me the best strategy is showing up regularly, and chatting with her casually each time to get to know her better. If you do this well enough, progress to getting her # /IG / snap... then make a move. But do it outside of the gym. The idea is to not be like every other guy who just asks her out with no tact. If she’s attractive, believe me she probably gets hit on 30 times a day. The gym is filled with testosterone / good looking guys. Be different than them and demonstrate yo…
/r/TheRedPill22/02/18 08:52 PM
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I agree with your premise about emotions, and was with you until your final paragraph, which I view more or less as a non sequitur. The whole point of humanity is to evolve. In a committed relationship with a female, you should be evolving together. I don’t discount anecdotes of successful people being cheated on, but those almost always are rooted in complacency: people growing too comfortable, too boring, too passive, etc. “Girl: What do you want for dinner tonight? Guy: “I don’t know, what do…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/18 06:58 PM
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This is a metaphorical like of dogshit bro. Also, my guess is the other guy you "wrecked" gave zero fucks and probably found all of your cab annoying and just wanted you to shut the fuck up.
/r/TheRedPill28/06/17 07:18 AM
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There's a few options. Take Uber pools for instance. If you are pooling with a cute girl and chatting, it's a lot less pressure to just ask her for her IG than her digits. Or if you met a girl at a bar and exchange numbers and meet up, chances are she's going to ask you for your FB a few encounters in. I guess it doesn't matter much, but in any case you should have a social media footprint that does not set you back. If you are attractive and come off interesting, it will likely help you.
/r/TheRedPill24/06/17 06:52 AM
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Right on, not saying you can't make it work. Actually, I think it's a double-edged sword with pros and cons. Post too little, you are mysterious which is good up to a certain point. Post too often, you become boring and predictable. As a man, I would not think less of another man for not having FB or that shit. But I do think it makes for a harder route than the baseline "normal" of having some kind of presence.
/r/TheRedPill21/06/17 09:12 PM
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A lot of people think things like Facebook, Instagram are a waste, but it's the easiest conduit in today's world to demonstrating you have high SMV. There is certainly a correlation between the number of followers or likes someone has and how successful or respected they are. Example Let's say a girl meets three different guys at a bar one night, equally attractive and both successful, and sends them a FB friend request the next day: Guy A has almost no social media presence whatsoever Guy B has…
/r/TheRedPill21/06/17 07:22 PM
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You said it yourself. Stick to going out in big groups if that's an option. At least go with one other (attractive) person. If not I'm afraid it's a severely uphill battle to fly solo. You either need to have 8/10 or better social skills or 8/10 or better looks to even have a fighting chance. Most people cast suspicion on lone wolves at these places. Generic bar? Different story and much easier, what I'd recommend.
/r/seduction27/08/16 08:32 PM
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I prefer snapchat, reason being is it gives you a topic of convo always. If I really like a girl I'll strike up a convo about her story, normally saying something playful or funny. A lot of girls do this to me too so it is reciprocal, along with sending/receiving actual snaps now and then. Texting is pretty shit IMO, your main options to strike up a convo are: "this reminded me of you", "we should do ___" , "what are you up to?". That said, there are good and bad ways to do both. I think the mai…
/r/seduction27/08/16 08:22 PM
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I've actually been thinking about the importance of texting for a while now. I think some younger girls (or more inexperienced ones) really respond favorably to frequent/casual texting. It allows them to feel comfortable around you, make jokes, etc. and normally this is an avenue into escalating a relationship in some way. If she liked you to begin with, texting her will normally only make her feel better and open up to you more if you can do it in a way that is fun for her. I agree that you can…
/r/TheRedPill05/01/16 11:36 PM
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Part of me thinks she is just sexually restrained, and if the reigns are ever taken off she'd probably be great in bed. Sadly I am going to run into her at some school social events, so I'm guessing there might be some awkwardness. I'd still probably say hi and all that but I can't say I'll be pursuing her. In your case, I'd say keep ignoring, but if you want to go after a potentially easy lay, you should just ask her out to catchup, seems like a green light. I'll admit, my decision to pursue th…
/r/TheRedPill30/12/15 01:35 AM
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I believed her about it, I had looked at her FB photos once and almost all of her photos are of herself or with other girls. She comes off very outgoing and social, but I can tell she is conservative with guys. Not to say she wouldn't be a freak in the sheets, she just either has incredibly high standards or emotional hangups. I do jokingly think it might be a red flag if someone like her is that inexperienced at that age, because it is almost always due to mental or emotional beliefs or reasons…
/r/TheRedPill30/12/15 01:25 AM
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I laughed at this for sure. But it's odd to me how she has only had one boyfriend her life for just a year with how attractive she looks. Possibly still a virgin? Maybe, I never asked. It's a unusual set of qualities I've not had a lot of experience encountering dating before for a girl in her mid-20's.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/15 09:29 PM
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So you want him to after seven years man up and reclaim what is rightfully his? How about accepting the glaring evidence that he lost interest in you. Regardless of him becoming a beta, he made the assessment at some point, whether it was months, or years ago, that you weren't really worth fighting for. His actions are completely consistent with that of a guy who stopped caring about his relationship and let himself go.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/13 06:26 PM
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Unless you are leaving on a trip or vacation, find time to make it happen. Too many people use a "busy schedule" as an excuse. There's no such thing as being occupied 24/7 for 2 straight weeks. Anyways, find time to text / talk and hopefully meet up for something not too time-consuming.
/r/seduction21/02/13 03:47 AM
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it's not so much about being nice as it is about being a man and demonstrating that you can actively get shit done the way you want. two examples: 1) guy A flat out looks the girl in her eyes and says "this is fun. it's on me tonight. don't take that the wrong way, i just felt like treating you since i picked this place out" 2) guy B waits for the check to come, nervously looks at the girl, then back at the check, and barely mutters "ok... i guess i can pay" or "ok...hmmm... how do you want to d…
/r/seduction20/02/13 10:00 PM
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I've thought about this a time or two, since I am in a serious relationship (very much intact). Confidence is not something that should be impacted by another person. It exists within you or it doesn't. You can't "unlearn" all the life experiences you have had and you don't need to start over from the beginning. If I were you, I'd say, "wow, now I suddenly have all sorts of free time that I didn't before. what should I try accomplishing?" and go from there. Go to the gym, lift weights, take up a…
/r/seduction20/02/13 08:43 PM
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That's a fair point then. Women only take advantage of guys that let them do so. I agree of steering clear of deadweight / trimming the fat / being selective when it comes to women. Some women have very little to offer to the table past looks/sex. Finding the ones who do have something more to offer than that will lead to more happiness in the long run. Congrats on your journey
/r/seduction20/02/13 08:33 PM
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Sounds like you are just trying to justify your past failures with other women, bro
/r/seduction20/02/13 07:48 PM
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Yeah - don't get catfished bro
/r/seduction16/02/13 07:13 PM
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Now deal with the reality that you can never really get groceries there again...
/r/seduction15/02/13 08:49 PM
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think like an animal - don't say, do
/r/seduction08/02/13 05:58 AM
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never start a text to a female with "Dude..."
/r/seduction04/02/13 11:20 PM
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I think that it a piece of shit. The real way to meet real people is by socializing in real tangible venues. Go out. Drink. Make friends. Meet girls. Tinder sounds like a great system for meeting the next Lennay Kekua though.
/r/seduction04/02/13 11:19 PM
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Well, if that's happening to you, there's probably some kind of disconnect between you reading the body language / conversation of a girl and mistaking that for attraction. Either that, or you're jumping the gun when you try asking her out to something. In that situation I don't know what I would say, but thinking a little about it, it would probably be something like "well then... no big deal. [pause 2 or 3 seconds to see if she was fucking you] have a fun night" and go find something else to o…
/r/seduction04/02/13 11:13 PM
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The funny thing is, I only read the title when I was preparing to type "she's clearly interested in / seeing another guy" before I even read that she had been talking to her ex. That situation was beyond predictable. What you do now: nothing. She probably let you down nicely and has been doing more than "talking" to her ex. Don't text her anymore. Focus on pursuing your own goals along with other girls and laugh if her relationship blows up in her face and she comes crawling back to you. But not…
/r/seduction04/02/13 11:02 PM
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Well, first of all, lunch typically suggests "just friends" so as a rule of thumb, it's always best to try to ask out someone you are interested to dinner. The reason is because it affords you the opportunity to do something right after - go to a bar, go grab dessert, go walk around some shops - and that could be valuable time spent developing better chemistry. Anyways, best advice is - show interest right off the bat. At some point, tell her "We'll split checks today. But next time we get toget…
/r/seduction04/02/13 10:53 PM
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i think you are ascribing too much meaning into empty words. if i said "what the fuck?" i could technically posture that in a hundred different ways based on my tone, and body language. i could laugh when i said it, i could yell it angrily, or i could say it calmly. i'd venture to say that's at least half of what being a dynamic and interesting guy really is - not necessarily knowing what to say, but how to say it. you are going to set yourself up to get walked all over in life if you don't have…
/r/seduction02/02/13 01:16 AM
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"how the fuck do you know what my type is?"
/r/seduction01/02/13 12:02 AM
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clearly it was a mistake to say "thanks" and keep walking. by doing so, that lumped you in with every other guy she has met in life who just stuck his tail between his legs in some situation. but at least you know this because you went back to them. anyways, when someone gives you an invitation to converse with them (by either talking to you or listening to you), take it and run with it unless you see no upside in talking to them. sometimes it's not even about the words you say but how you say t…
/r/seduction31/01/13 11:56 PM
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Did you even read OPs post? This subreddit is going downhill. It's about the timing of it. You want to kiss her for 3 seconds so you can then "act like it never happened" for the duration of the car ride? That's beyond fucking stupid.
/r/seduction11/12/12 07:44 PM
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Let me say right off the bat - you are right about being a decent person, to some extent. At the end of the day all you have is your own pride and dignity. And oftentimes in life, you reap what you sow. But everything else you said only applies to if the girl and the guy in question have something really nice together. You don't know that. For all you know, he might treat her like absolute shit. You're just projecting your own beta tendencies on him. Come on, this is the most upvoted advice? Thi…
/r/seduction11/12/12 07:35 PM
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I'd rather have my first kiss while Lincoln is getting assassinated on the movie screen than that shit you described. If you want to do it on a date, do it at the END of the night genius. Not right before you get in the car so everything suddenly becomes weird for the duration of the car ride. Especially since you are so keen to act like "nothing happened".
/r/seduction11/12/12 09:29 AM
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Hahahahahahaahaha.
/r/seduction11/12/12 09:14 AM
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Stop lying then. Problem solved
/r/seduction11/12/12 09:08 AM
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Ok, she is completely in your head and probably sending you mixed messages. It's time for you to get to the bottom of it all, mainly for your own peace of mind. If she has hinted that they are "potentially" breaking up soon then consider that your own green light to make a move. You have two routes: a) The possible get-in-a-relationship with her route Invite her out to a bar, and have some drinks. Get buzzed but not drunk. Then tell her to her face that "I have to confess something here, lately …
/r/seduction11/12/12 09:03 AM
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Understand this - there is a delicate line between "picking your spots" where you have a high chance to succeed, and flat out being reckless by approaching a girl the very first chance you get. Take the gym for example. There is a high probability that if you stick to a routine schedule, you are going to have plenty of chances to approach a girl who caught your eye on an elliptical. You could: a) notice that both machines next to her are taken, stalk her and wait for her to get off, then abruptl…
/r/seduction11/12/12 08:49 AM
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i agree with a lot of this. as an aside, i would caution against the "play the host" advice - be the life of the party, wherever you go ...absolutely. that is doable and well under your control. hosting is a different. it involves dealing with cancellations, people flaking, and you coming up with the entertainment... sometimes it is better to NOT be the host, so when shit inevitably does become boring, you can invite a girl or group of girls to go with you somewhere else. this almost always work…
/r/seduction03/11/12 05:10 PM
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hahahaha. why the hell would a normal 30 year old woman be interested in an 18 year old guy? this screams out red flags bro. any 30 year old women who is well adjusted into society would be likely dating guys aged 25-40 or engaged, married, or single and focusing on her career. i applaud you for your chutzpah but you need to ask yourself the bigger questions.
/r/seduction03/11/12 04:54 PM
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there is an asymptotic relationship between the harder you try to fix something and the more you end up effing it up. carry on like it never happened. don't be ashamed, don't apologize, don't just "ignore" her... just act like it doesn't even matter to you and continue with your normal daily interactions. who knows, you may reap dividends down the road - you are in an environment where you two constantly see each other, so you never know how sexual tension might develop. if it starts to get awkw…
/r/seduction03/11/12 04:48 PM
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never apologize for being yourself or pursuing your own interests. given the circumstances in your relationship, i think it is only natural to assume you will both do some healthy flirting with other people... my only advice is to do whatever you are ok with her doing until you reach the tipping point - i.e. if you are the type to get butthurt if a bunch of guys are flirting with your girl trying to get in her pants and she is playing along, then you should not be a hypocrite and act like that y…
/r/seduction10/10/12 07:24 AM
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it means don't wait for some kind of signal / beacon / green-light from her to do something like hold her hand, touch her, kiss her... but to just be a man about it and go for it when the time feels right because you "know" she is attracted whether or not you really know
/r/seduction10/10/12 07:20 AM
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it's so easy to do. it is all about being sexual, and saying loose-ended things up to her own interpretation. IMO, it is the perfect way to fill the down-time between dates with her BUT, she has to be into you first for you to go there. you will never "win" someone over via texting or any forms of communicating if they are not attracted to you.
/r/seduction01/10/12 11:05 PM
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you could do that too. the whole point is to change it up, and not repeat the same things early on. not sure why i got downvoted, but 120 for a single date is NOT that much, considering half of that is my own share of the cost. so if i pay her share, that is 60 extra dollars. other things you can buy with 60 dollars? some stupid sweater from jcrew, a new ps3 game, 1/12th of a share of AAPL stock... entrance to $20 dollar club for you and two friends, 1 round of shots for 6 friends, etc. people u…
/r/seduction30/09/12 10:54 PM
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chances are, you are not as funny as you think you are. to some very small audience that exists in some corner of the world, you are probably hilarious.... but to your classmates, you are probably just annoying. i'm not saying to change who you are, but actions speak louder than words in everything in life. it sounds like all you do is talk... about bs
/r/seduction30/09/12 04:11 AM
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assuming i am really interested in her: first date : ~$120 (take her to a nice restaurant, pay the bill) second date: <20$ (do something free like go on a night time hike, then go halfsies on some food / cheap entertainment with her) third date: $20 do something at home with her subsequent dates: $0 - $500 depending on what we do if i find i am not interested in her midway through first date: first date: $30-$40 awkwardly force her to split the tab with me second date: hahahaha, you think i woul…
/r/seduction30/09/12 03:56 AM
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man what's with you and ice cream shops? you need to get off that and expand your horizons a bit. take her to a show, or go pub-crawling with her, or go on a hike, or go bowling, or play putt-putt golf... and THEN you can take her out for ice cream afterwards. if the whole date centers around this ice cream shop, no matter how pretentious or hip it may be, that is weaker than a fat-free butter pecan soy-based sorbet
/r/seduction30/09/12 03:51 AM
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sounds like you are just addicted to internet porn, bro
/r/seduction30/09/12 03:47 AM
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social status - what about it? norms - what about them? sacrificing happiness to obtain social status - happens all the time in people failing to choose a career doing what they love so they can instead make $$ (a lot of lawyers, some doctors, tons of bankers, etc.). but what they might "love" more than anything is the thought of raising a family, living in a nice home, and being respected... so you can't assume that they are bad people for pursuing something that did give them fulfillment in an…
/r/seduction26/09/12 10:50 AM
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trust me, you living 12 miles away from downtown is a huge deal if you don't have better transportation at your disposal than a public subway. you will have to overcome a huge inertia barrier, not to mention sacrificing a lot of you time every time you go downtown. you should really just try moving to that area as location ought to be the number 1 factor for you aside from $$, but there are affordable options in any part of town. a lot of girls probably would not want to ride the subway, but if …
/r/seduction26/09/12 10:39 AM
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kudos to you for caring enough about him to want to help him. i can't relate to your situation because i don't have a brother like that, but my best guess is that you are going to have a greater influence on him than your parents or anyone else. you should start including him to places you go and have serious talks with him about his motivations / goals / etc. invite him to bars and clubs with you and your friends no matter how awkward it might be to bring him along. just tell him how much bulls…
/r/seduction26/09/12 01:58 AM
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i vehemently disagree with that statement. a lot of bright colors are more flamboyant and might be better suited for the day time, but in the night, they will just make you look like a clown. some of my favorite articles of clothing are greyscale and they definitely make me stand out. your friend is a moron
/r/seduction26/09/12 01:50 AM
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you just gotta embrace it all and take it in stride, you at least have the realest name on here. to quote the great mike tyson, "once the money goes... so does the hoes"
/r/seduction25/09/12 06:28 AM
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it reads like a plug for that shitty book of his. no way to prove any of what he says, so the fact that he attributes it to the book is suspect at best no matter how optimistic / pessimistic you are
/r/seduction25/09/12 05:54 AM
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read it too fast and missed the joke at first ... well played
/r/seduction25/09/12 05:49 AM
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shameless veiled plug is not so veiled
/r/seduction25/09/12 05:43 AM
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cool story nigguh
/r/seduction25/09/12 05:41 AM
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gotta pay some homage to seinfeld here - you need to leave on a high note. i'm fresh out of suggestions for how you do that because though it sounds like she is somewhat interested in you, you haven't really spent any time with her yet. so think really hard and figure out a way you can see her, then you will be off to do important things in europe. i would advise against contacting her from there. its vacation - get out, see cool shit, and don't let the possibility of one romance hinder your min…
/r/seduction25/09/12 05:35 AM
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it's time for you to step up your game. if he thought you were being a tease, show him that you were really interested in him. text him something provocative the same night (after the date) or the next day like: "i wanted to confess something - i touched myself thinking about you last night ;)" and if the guy has ANY balls whatsoever, he will get turned on by you saying that, be impressed by your candidness, and want to pursue you. i can just about guarantee this 100%. most advice is just going …
/r/seduction25/09/12 05:25 AM
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i'd hate to beat a dead horse, but "seduction" for women is almost as simple as talking to the guy, and then demonstrating interest through body language, and words. sounds familiar, but the difference is that she ultimately controls the extent of the interaction (assuming most guys want to have sex with her). guys are genetically wired to want to have more partners than females. females could get pregnant at any time, but in those 9 months the guy could theoretically impregnate 50 other women. …
/r/seduction25/09/12 05:13 AM
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any advice here? yes. stop being a dumbass.
/r/seduction25/09/12 05:07 AM
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finally, a worthwhile post on this sub
/r/seduction25/09/12 05:05 AM
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confirmed for making you sound like a serial killer performing some kind of psychoanalysis
/r/seduction24/09/12 12:43 AM
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> he asked me to come over tonight at seven and i agreed that is your first mistake. why don't you have some class and just tell him you don't want to see him like that anymore if that is what you want. do you realize your actions are only exacerbating the problem for you? have some balls and tell him what you feel or otherwise quit complaining since you appear to be too scared to stand up for yourself and are just going along with the flow.
/r/seduction24/09/12 12:40 AM
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welcome to the real world, where you aren't blessed with the luxury of walking on a campus with thousands of new faces a day, and granted face time with countless different girls by virtue of sharing a class together. but just as you are now adjusting to a different pace of life, so too are a ton of others. now is the time in your life to get proactive and to seek out the things you are passionate about. friends will come in time naturally. so my short, two-word answer is: join shit. join organi…
/r/seduction24/09/12 12:27 AM
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just do the thing where you write your number on the front or back of the receipt with a one-line message. i've done it twice and both times the girl happily contacted me after her shift ended, leading to dates and shit. and if she doesn't, not even a big deal, you will at least be happy you went for it. but you have to have been flirting with her all throughout your interaction with her note: this only works when you have never had her as a waitress or seen her before. if you are a regular cust…
/r/seduction23/09/12 10:26 PM
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can't believe i laughed at the carrot one
/r/seduction23/09/12 10:21 PM
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is this some kind of reference to women's vaginas smelling like fish? lol if so...
/r/seduction23/09/12 10:19 PM
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look no further than the arts (anything music / performance / museum / art related). these placing are literally swimming with girls, and you can use it to make yourself more cultured too.
/r/seduction23/09/12 10:13 PM
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> getting in a fight over taking a girl's kills in a video game > ignoring her > childish understatement of the year. serious question - how old are you exactly? the problem is a lot of the stuff on this subreddit assumes the girl (and the guy) have gone through puberty. so any advice here is pretty much rendered useless on the both of you, since both of you behaved like a little kids and she seems intent to hold a grudge. she clearly wants you to apologize directly, not hear some passive bs lik…
/r/seduction23/09/12 04:38 AM
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guys like you "get laid" because they put themselves in a position to get laid. what are you doing for yourself socially to make that happen? (semi-rhetorical question)
/r/seduction23/09/12 04:23 AM
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your name says it all, don't be scared, but now you're going to have to move in with your auntie and your uncle in bel-air
/r/seduction23/09/12 04:21 AM
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you're saying your class is 90% female? what kind of school do you go to exactly? anyways, it takes two people to escalate something, so never feel bad about running into future hookups in any setting, because they had just as much to do with it as you did. own it, but don't make it awkward. i'm sure the girl is mature enough to just leave it at that. gossip talk can spread like wildfire though, and if you swing and miss with just one of those girls in your class, it can really backfire on you, …
/r/seduction23/09/12 04:18 AM
2

i'm missing nothing - the time to get at the planning stuff is a little more into the topic at hand, as in, after she reciprocates some level of interest in the activity. don't rush it - you are jumping the gun and need to let her express more curiosity / intrigue about it first. if a girl is interested in you in any way, she will without fail follow-up about whatever you say. 100% of the time, not even a risk
/r/seduction22/09/12 07:48 PM
1

upvoted tofutofu for the truest words here about initiating. i suffer largely from social apathy when it comes to most of my guy friends - not in the sense that i don't have a lot of good friends who i enjoy keeping in my company, but that i just never go out of my way to see them or contact them regularly (i also have a girlfriend and so do a lot of them, go figure). it's never too late to turn it around, but we all cannot change how we are wired internally. i am both an extremely social and ex…
/r/seduction22/09/12 07:18 PM
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those questions are sort of lose-lose props in the sense that if you say "fuck yeah i'm good" then you sound like you are feigning confidence, but if you say "no / not really / i don't know / i'm ok" you sound like you lack confidence. best idea is to just answer the question factually, laid-back, and lightheartedly. for example: common activity that she plays girl: "are you any good at tennis ?" you: "well, i've only been playing it since 6 months ago. i hear you are the _____ (white,asian,etc.…
/r/seduction22/09/12 02:53 AM
-29

predictable response from a sheep, enjoy your sloppy seconds.
/r/seduction22/09/12 12:59 AM
-37

if you're pursuing these girls concurrently, you're doing that at the expense of your own inner confidence. i have too much pride to ever resort to essentially "cold-calling" 10 girls for anything in life. if you're getting rejected, then pursuing a new girl, and all these are happening in sequence - then that is more acceptable. i'll commend you for being persistent and proactive, at least.
/r/seduction21/09/12 11:03 PM
5

saying those things is terrible. flat-out terrible the best way is to get in her physical space, look in her eyes, and just go for it (assuming you have built her attraction up to that point). no need to preface anything or frame the situation with words. if you want some kind of catalyst, put your arm around her if you two are walking or sitting, then pause for a second in the middle of whatever you are doing while looking at her, and just do it.
/r/seduction21/09/12 10:46 PM
-10

a million times this
/r/seduction21/09/12 06:56 PM
0

you basically have two options since she clearly is not interested in your right now. 1.) text her back for your own closure, burning the bridge on YOUR terms, and likely destroy your future chances with her, OR 2.) ignore her reply, leave it open-ended, go on with your life, live in the agony of wanting to be with a girl who is not interested in you, and maybe (big maybe) down the road if you play your cards right you can get another shot. normally i wouldn't respond back to what she says out o…
/r/seduction21/09/12 06:47 PM
6

upvoted for sage advice... though that is a lot to deliver right on the spot. i agree with never defending yourself - you're above qualifying/defending yourself to a girl like that. i'd honestly respond by squaring up to her, looking at her straight in the eyes for say, 5-10 seconds in silence, furrowing my eyebrows, slowly crack a little smile... and say "that's funny" then turn back to her friend and continue the convo "anyways..." . it is all about the pause for dramatic effect - you can do t…
/r/seduction21/09/12 06:23 AM
0

you are trying too hard, stop trying so hard and things will fall into place for you
/r/seduction21/09/12 05:56 AM
2

just bring an ice-cream cake to work and let the situation play out naturally, trust me, you will benefit immensely
/r/seduction21/09/12 05:51 AM
4

your mental approach is very mature in that you don't view sex as the ultimate solution to your problem. a lot of people mistakenly believe it is i would say go for the escort, or find someone who can at least show you a basic blueprint about how you should interact with a woman. at the least, it will build your confidence and make you a little more comfortable with things ideally, you should try meeting people through organic means, like through a common activity, an online dating site, a conce…
/r/seduction21/09/12 02:04 AM
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> 2012 > going to nightclubs
/r/seduction21/09/12 01:56 AM
1

two words: ice-cream cake
/r/seduction21/09/12 01:51 AM
1

couldn't help but laugh at the title bitches and whores
/r/seduction21/09/12 01:48 AM
1

balancing your relationship with your external social life is tricky and involves trade-offs. i don't know why you feel like you are slipping - if you love the girl like you say, it should be an easy decision to focus on that instead of meeting new girls, though you should not shut yourself out from the rest of the world. join activities on the side, volunteer places, meet new people and make new friends. do things that interest you on the side. this will further your social life and continue to…
/r/seduction21/09/12 01:43 AM
1

there is one simple way to play this since you initiated - don't text them back again. you can't control the external things in her life, and all other plans she has made, but if she is interested in you, it is absolutely on her to meet you half way and let you know she is in fact looking to spend time with you. by you not texting back, it forces her to act or otherwise risk losing your attention, so more often than not they will text you back. she might try to make you sweat it out though - e.g…
/r/seduction20/09/12 07:16 PM
2

anything i say here is aimed towards helping you gain a better realization of the situation. your position in consistent with that of a possessive or jealous friend. i'll explain: due to what you said in 2) i think it is safe to say that you have built your own set of expectations for her, which are different than that of your other friends. you absolutely cannot do this, since she has a boyfriend, and you are investing a lot of emotion in something you cannot even control. if you two are friend…
/r/seduction20/09/12 07:09 PM
2

first off, your motives are terrible. your primary motivation it seems is to become her plan-B one day down the road. have some pride and make whatever changes you have to for you, not her. i'll humor you and answer your questions, but again, you're investing way too much of your attention to her when it should be going to other places. i'm not saying to not pursue what you want - you should do that. but i am telling you that you seem to have lofty expectations in place of her breaking up with h…
/r/seduction20/09/12 08:49 AM
1

hugs are pretty innocuous, and few girls would be opposed to one no matter what the circumstance or how unattractive you are. basically, it's a more affectionate version of a handshake, because shaking a girl's hand after meeting her is just old-fashioned and awkward. instances when the hug is appropriate: when you casually bump into a girl who you like / girl friend without it being planned (happens a lot if you're in college) when you are leaving and telling a girl you like / girl friend bye (…
/r/seduction20/09/12 08:28 AM
1

well, that makes it a lot better if it's relevant and the girl will understand the reference... i don't listen to pop/rap radio though so you're right, i am proud to say i have never heard of it
/r/seduction20/09/12 08:22 AM
6

not a fan of it, it sounds like something an odd 50 year old man says to a bartender / waitress / stripper
/r/seduction20/09/12 06:17 AM
2

i can't relate with dating a woman with a kid, but it does sound like she has had a lot on her plate recently and maybe the timing feels a bit off to her. my best advice to win her trust is to stop being affectionate with her in the immediate future. she might think you are just trying to hit and quit, or that you are not all too serious. she obviously has her guard up - if you are prepared to tough it out, it will get lowered in time, but you need to not rely on the physical stuff just yet
/r/seduction20/09/12 06:13 AM
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don't take this the wrong way, but in those settings you either need to douche-it-up and be louder and make yourself more known than all the other guys, or you will fade into the background. i personally don't like meeting people in those environments, because even though i can compete / beat out other guys, it is an affected part of my personality as i am typically laid-back and chill.
/r/seduction20/09/12 06:03 AM
6

it sounds like you are trying to play on both sides of the fence (being single vs being in a relationship), and that you don't yet have the heart to commit to just one of them. neither is right or wrong, but you have to choose sooner or later. the only advice i can give you is to have some pride in who you call your girlfriend, because she is ultimately an accessory to yourself. any time you slight her, you are slighting yourself e.g. if you cheat on her, she is now dating a cheater, and you are…
/r/seduction19/09/12 11:28 PM
3

the simple answer for this is that you make it awkward the very moment you start feeling awkward. it shows everyone has different thresholds for this kind of stuff. personally, i think it would be weird to just fix your eyes on one person 50 yards away while walking towards them. i'd probably look around until we are about 15 feet way from each other and then hold eye contact a simple solution for the down-time is that you can use your phone and make it look like you are multi-tasking. or just g…
/r/seduction19/09/12 10:04 PM
1

for the record, halloween costumes are always at their best if you coordinate with a group of people (guys or girls). but if you intend to go solo, keep it simple/relevant but never cover your face up. the most beta thing you can do is to buy a pre-created, mass-produced costume from a halloween store. get creative and make it yourself, even if it sucks... the girls you will talk to will be way more impressed by that and probably tease you about it, opposed to just having a run-of-the-mill super…
/r/seduction19/09/12 05:40 AM
6

he said costume for a male in his late 20's ... not for a 19 year old frat-boy
/r/seduction19/09/12 05:34 AM
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that's ironic that you talk about "gibberish" polluting the airwaves here, when you recently posted the most bs story i have read on this entire subreddit to date
/r/seduction19/09/12 05:32 AM
6

What is your height/weight/ethnicity/age? All relevant questions.
/r/seduction19/09/12 01:54 AM
5

do you have his phone number? if not get it, and text him. say something flirty and see how he responds... it is so easy for you since he is in your class. you could also just ask him if he wants to study together some night or do an assignment together. if he has any balls whatsoever he will know what's up
/r/seduction19/09/12 01:40 AM
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congrats, but you botched the grillmaster close... you are supposed to jump on top of the grill, still hot, and yell "BITCH WHO IS YOUR GRILLMASTER??? SAY MY FUCKING NAME. I AM YOUR GRILLMASTER, IS THIS NOT WHY YOU ARE HERE???!!" then jump off your grill, carry the woman under your arm like you are king-kong, knock over everything in sight, and proceed to take her to the NEAREST bedroom and fuck her brains out. textbook stuff, really
/r/seduction16/09/12 08:47 AM
7

"i don't love her as much but it's cool anyway" "it's cool anyway" "it's cool" interesting way to put that
/r/seduction16/09/12 08:40 AM
1

list is sound. my only possible exception is with #4. yes, the nicer place you have the more it might "help" you, but that is something that is generally revealed further down the road to the girl, and at that point, she is not likely to care too much. unless you are banging chicks at a party you are hosting, you will not reap the benefits of having a nice place as quick as you will for the other 4 items on your list.
/r/seduction16/09/12 08:37 AM
1

a lot of how you socialize with others is directly related to your relationship(s) with them. for instance, if i am, say, the guest of a friend to his/her best friend from college's party, and they all know each other... naturally i am going to be out of the loop for a lot of stories / jokes / memories etc. sure, i will be talkative, but there will be plenty of times when i can't contribute to the conversation. but if i am out drinking with my best friends, naturally my conversational potential …
/r/seduction16/09/12 08:28 AM
1

WALL OF TEXT IS WALL
/r/seduction16/09/12 05:10 AM
-1

actually, these are the truest words here, but he got downvoted for it... not surprised
/r/seduction16/09/12 05:07 AM
1

do you have any passions in life? you sure don't come off that way... finding common ground with people is the easiest way to make new friends / start new relationships. if you are not a bar/club type person, that's fine. don't pretend to be what you aren't. if you love playing chess, then find a group to play with in your area. only you are to blame for how active / isolated you are, there are new things to do at every corner
/r/seduction16/09/12 05:04 AM
4

table all the morality talk - nobody but you can tell you how to live your life. if it feels inherently wrong to you, then stop doing it. but if it feels okay, then carry on. just be prepared to deal with the worst-case scenarios and know that you can only play with fire so many times before you get burned. i personally don't like lying to anyone. so if one of the girls i was with asked me if i was seeing someone else, i would tell them straight to their face.
/r/seduction16/09/12 04:56 AM
3

you're fucked, you clearly didn't study enough for the party
/r/seduction16/09/12 04:53 AM
-4

hahahahaha, a "napkin rose". what kills me is that it seems like only fast-food napkins can be used to make that, meaning you likely busted this out at a chipotle or mcdonald's... very romantic. don't take this the wrong way, but your girl must be really nerdy if she was into that. which is cool, because you probably have a lot of that in your personality. anyways, i don't know how to answer your question, as i have never relied on tricks / gimmicks or anything other than being myself. be carefu…
/r/seduction16/09/12 04:51 AM
3

first of all, i am replying simply because your username caught my eye. had to throw this out there, i haven't even read a word of what you typed yet. here i go. ok, she friendzoned you. make no mistake about this. my recommendation is to NOT pursue the girl anymore. be friendly and polite to her, because at least she didn't waste your time an beat around the bush. you can at least respect her for her honesty. but don't invite her to things anymore, and don't go out of your way to say hi to her …
/r/seduction16/09/12 04:45 AM
3

it's all about the intent and delivery. you are giving low-level, hackneyed advice by saying "never buy a round for randoms". for the longest time this was a common belief among guys but there are times and places to break rules... it hinges on the delivery and your intent
/r/seduction16/09/12 04:33 AM
2

this is always asked, and my response is always stop trying to meet women at clubs. unless you are physically or socially one of the best-off guys there, you will likely reap no dividends from your night out, minus a cover-charge / huge tab / taxi-fare or parking. in spite of this, if clubs are still what you want to pursue (which is fine - plenty of ways to have fun at a club without ending your night with a hook-up), you will ALWAYS be more successful when you are with a group of people (guys …
/r/seduction15/09/12 11:19 PM
1

i think it fills no unique void in anything. just another talentless hack trying to make a tiny amount of $ in a subject that is already over-saturated. plus, the interface is no different than reddit's 1/10
/r/seduction15/09/12 11:09 PM
1

javier's, fashion island, newport beach... or go to places around irvine
/r/seduction15/09/12 11:06 PM
2

you are no man. you are a freshman and act and type like an insecure kid. understand this
/r/seduction15/09/12 11:05 PM
3

i've succeeded at it before, it's not so hard. all you have to do is show how that you are not trying to impress her and are instead just being yourself. never be a pushover, be assertive, be a man. having the balls to tell a girl an occasional "no" accomplishes the same thing with any added douchiness. girls will register this behavior as you being confident in who you are and likely assume that you have a lot of experience with girls. that's why i always roll my eyes when i hear of the concept…
/r/seduction15/09/12 11:02 PM
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this is the worst insight from a female i have ever seen. "have a coffee or a coke together, hang out a bit" - somehow OP is supposed to organize that without having her number to directly contact her?? right. "i don't use my phone to talk to anyone except my mother" - just stupid. get off of facebook once in a while and expand your horizons. a phone conversation is the second-most personal form of communication besides face-to-face convos. you must be socially aloof if all you do is text/ faceb…
/r/seduction15/09/12 10:52 PM
2

achilles from troy
/r/seduction15/09/12 10:49 PM
2

yet, at the end of the night, you remained a 23 year old, poor loser who was more her puppet than she was yours. if you really think the mom is going to introduce you to her daughter(s) after having sex with you... then that, my friends, is a white trash family. moreover - i highly doubt the validity of any parts of your story (you conveniently omitted necessary parts). let's recap: you reportedly met a married woman in a living room of some house party of mid-aged 40 year old women as a 23 year…
/r/seduction15/09/12 10:43 PM
2

there is no definitive guide to dating, and nothing should be scripted - but that is not to say you should not put some time and thought into planning it. dating is about discovering different things: 1. how you two interact together 2. details about the other 3. something new about the world together great dates have elements of all three of these, and you walk away from it happy that you shared that experience with that person. ideally, if you are both having fun together, everything else shou…
/r/seduction15/09/12 05:13 AM
4

i've to some extent walked in your shoes. it can be fun, but it's often lonely. you measure things in minutes, not days. you have down nights where you wish you could just unwind with someone, and you have other nights where you are leaving for a new club/bar and you feel trapped in your own deja vu. most guys dream of sleeping with more women than they can count, but when they make it to the other side, they are often left feeling similar to how you do right now. all i can say is to figure out …
/r/seduction15/09/12 04:51 AM
1

normally i find most of the linked content here to be of poor quality, to say the least, but this was actually a solid contribution
/r/seduction15/09/12 04:43 AM
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honestly, if i was you, i would consider waiting until you are in a better place with your self-image. think of yourself as "going under renovations" and set goals for how you want to be. take time off from girls and get in great shape. read more books and become more interesting. these are substantial changes you can make that will BUILD, not break, your confidence... which is important for you right now. this is not to say that if the right girl comes along and you two hit it off, you shouldn'…
/r/seduction15/09/12 04:39 AM
1

ok, i never got around to creating the post, but think of it like this - if you are a hunting a doe, and your target is 800 yards away, you might have something like a 5% chance to kill if you take the shot then and there. on the positive side, you will always get your shot off from that distance without the deer escaping. but if you move to 400 yards away, say your target might run off 20% of the time before you even get a shot off, but your chances of killing if you do get the shot off have no…
/r/seduction15/09/12 04:26 AM
3

wow, where to start here. first of all, you spilling your guts via a facebook message is about as unattractive and creepy as it gets for girls. especially if that girl does not even talk to you. the moment you hit "send" you disqualified yourself from ever having a chance with even getting to know her in the slightest bit. NEVER, EVER, do that again. have some pride and show some goddamn restraint over your emotions. remember the golden rule about getting girls - the harder you try, the easier y…
/r/seduction15/09/12 02:03 AM
1

honestly, your only real shot is to due it with a group of guy friends who have social value. that way, you don't come off as desperate or creepy... and more like your main motive was just to flirt. if you are seen by yourself, it is likely to make her apprehensive. note: i'm not saying ask her out in front of your friends, i'm saying make sure she sees you laughing / enjoying yourself with your friends before you isolate and approach her yourself. if you come into the store looking serious / bl…
/r/seduction12/09/12 09:57 PM
-1

this is terrible, my god. do you realize how autistic you come off?
/r/seduction12/09/12 09:29 PM
1

i promise you that if you searched your question, you would find that the most upvoted answers are always "meeting someone new" and for good reason - this is the number one tried and true way to get over someone. stop letting it consume your life - do things to make yourself better like working out, furthering your ambitions, etc. her treating you like you don't exist is a blessing in disguise, you just don't see it that way. it is terrible to have a clingy / emotionally needy ex who fucks with …
/r/seduction12/09/12 09:25 PM
6

so cringeworthy... on so many levels
/r/seduction12/09/12 09:18 PM
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video is a little cheesy, but it is true. one million percent true i am living proof, i met my current girlfriend almost just like that. you never know, and you can't try to script your life - all you can control is putting yourself in places you can succeed. i was single at that time, but i did a lot to help my cause then - worked out and was in phenomenal shape, developed extreme confidence, and put out the best version of myself possible. i had no idea of knowing it at the time when we met, b…
/r/seduction12/09/12 09:08 PM
2

joe rogan is the man. didn't change my view because i've been operating that way for years. very true that a lot of 'pick-up' only yields wounded animals who are stupid enough to fall for that bs
/r/seduction05/09/12 10:44 AM
0

wow, this was seriously some of the worst advice i have seen. where to begin... you basically advised to go full on "night at the roxbury", make an ass of yourself to those girls, then do damage control to every other girl in the club who just saw you creep those poor girls out. in your mind you think that all those other girls on the outside looking in got wet seeing your one-man circus show, that they were paying tons of attention to you and the middle of the dance floor, and getting jealous o…
/r/seduction05/09/12 10:26 AM
2

a lot of "being alpha" has to do with becoming the most untouchable version of yourself possible, in that nothing can threaten you physically, socially, emotionally, economically, and so on. a girl rejected you? her loss, on to the next one. a drunk guy at a club accidentally bumps into you? he sees you and tells you sorry. you take a new job and have to relocate knowing nobody in a new city? big deal, you can make new friends easily. you leave a club without a girl after closing? no sweat, you …
/r/seduction05/09/12 09:59 AM
2

read their eyes and lips. if they are constantly staring at you and smiling around you they want to kiss. just make that assumption. it is an assumption that NEEDS to be made for you to advance with greater success. the more you believe it to be true, the easier the transition will be to get to that point and it will just come naturally, trust me many guys want the easy way out - as in having her verbalize that she wants to be kissed. but quality girls never reveal these things to you, they hold…
/r/seduction05/09/12 09:20 AM
-19

become more attractive. it is as simple as that
/r/seduction05/09/12 09:12 AM
2

i said an option worth exploring and mentioned a few reasons as to why i was clear with what my best suggestions were , i.e. not something that ends in a fight
/r/seduction04/09/12 12:33 PM
1

to answer your title question, sex is not at all important to me because i have had, well... a lot of it it has never been important to me, but i can tell you, once you have sex for the first time, the next day you will probably feel like a burden has been lifted from your shoulders, in that you are no longer part of this "big race to lose your virginity" that everyone is entered in without any say. don't build it up to have great expectations. if she is a special girl to you, then you should no…
/r/seduction04/09/12 07:30 AM
8

not sure why this has the most upvotes, talking to the guy will only make him more incensed and make yourself seem defensive; see delightful_white's and skatincrazyj's posts below as excellent suggestions. the key is to look right into the eyes of the girls of the group, stifle some laughter, and give them a look that says "i feel sorry for you" and go somewhere else in the club and meet cooler people. one or more of the girls may track you down later and apologize as an excuse to talk to you ag…
/r/seduction04/09/12 07:20 AM
7

deep stuff in principle
/r/seduction04/09/12 07:02 AM
3

tricky situation, but generally your best bet is to just play it cool. cooler than cool, if possible. NEVER bring up the situation at hand, the more you talk about the past-relationship / break-up / rebound stuff, the closer you are to the friendzone. there is no time frame for what "too soon" to start a new relationship is; everyone has a different threshold. just keep spending time with her and let things happen as they may. don't always text her / talk to her about pointless stuff, you need t…
/r/seduction03/09/12 11:29 PM
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lol @ the huge influx of 13-16 year olds on here now... all you youngbucks need to enroll in the school of hard knocks a few times before you can focus on any of this advice
/r/seduction03/09/12 06:44 AM
2

honestly, the name of this game is reaching the apex of your own inner confidence. you are not going to be able to apply some of these concepts unless you reach a pretty high level of that. but, with that said, there are a lot of resources that can try to show you ways to build your confidence so over time you may get there
/r/seduction02/09/12 10:30 PM
-2

keep up your great work as a mod. you in a nutshell: MOD gives questionable advice/commentary MOD gets called out on said affair MOD gets defensive and invents overarching claim to mask his defensiveness MOD indirectly threatens with ban
/r/seduction02/09/12 10:22 PM
1

people always respect honesty, always. takes some longer to see than others
/r/seduction02/09/12 10:09 PM
-4

you must have poor reading comprehension. being in 'shape' is the same thing as being toned. i don't know how you correlated my statements with saying that being in shape makes one appear less attractive to the average woman. if anything, the majority of women will gravitate towards just that, as i mentioned if you think a fair percentage of women (note: ALL WOMEN inclusively, including skinny, fat, ugly, cute, average, hot) won't find you less attractive for being super fucking jacked than if y…
/r/seduction02/09/12 10:05 PM
4

if you want to break it down mathematically, i'd venture to posit that: group A: 50 % of women prefer a toned guy (not jacked, not skinny, not fat) group B: 30 % of women prefer a jacked guy (MMA/football type) group C: 20 % of women prefer a skinny guy (hipster/emo type) so by getting jacked, you are going to attract a different kind of woman, but probably at the expense of appearing less attractive to the mainstream woman (possibly write you off as a douche/moron right away). it is an inherent…
/r/seduction02/09/12 08:43 PM
2

-is direct game inherently creepy that depends entirely on your persona, e.g. if you convey confidence, if you are very attractive, if you convey you are of high social value. it's never mainly about the words you say, but rather how they are said -is direct game too validational? sometimes, but it doesn't have to be... you made it that way by complimenting her right off the bat. in my opinion there are better ways to initiate a convo with a girl than using an angle like "hi, i think you're beau…
/r/seduction02/09/12 09:27 AM
3

yes and no, this is the simplest answer i can give you
/r/seduction02/09/12 09:07 AM
1

i'm talking about a distinction between a girl who ends up going out without her boyfriend due to some circumstance (he's feeling tired, she wants to just have a girl-night, etc.), and a girl who seeks times where she can go out without him. in the case of the latter, both the guy and the girl are kidding themselves if they think that is acceptable.
/r/seduction01/09/12 09:01 PM
1

lol'ed
/r/seduction01/09/12 08:51 PM
3

you did okay, but you took no chances. if you were that interested in her, you had to take a chance... but i see nothing wrong with just talking to people and not trying to force the issue
/r/seduction01/09/12 09:51 AM
3

fake your own death or invent some kind of mysterious illness like grote's disease. also, delete her from your facebook, ignore her texts, and change your house keys while you are at it
/r/seduction01/09/12 09:35 AM
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big deal, so you actually have a moral backbone... be proud of that. but if you really like her, you need to do some kind of damage control because she probably took that night as you flat-out rejecting her and it will be hard to get her to open up to you again your best bet is probably to play the long game. slowly flirt with her and keep adding to any sexual tension... then finally you need to just man up and kiss her, and in the heat of that drop a line like "i wanted to fuck you so bad that …
/r/seduction01/09/12 09:31 AM
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you made some good points about attention/feeling validated so i upvoted. a girl with a boyfriend who goes out without him (barring special circumstances like a wedding/bachelorette party/long-distance situation) is a cunt in my book and he is basically on a fast-track to being a cuckold. a girl would probably resort to doing that to make the guy jealous, or to prove some convoluted point to him about her being independent and desirable to other guys basically any girlfriend who would prioritize…
/r/seduction01/09/12 09:17 AM
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i was just in hawaii, and trust me bro, the girls there ain't all that.
/r/seduction01/09/12 09:09 AM
2

learn from it. it starts with your own self-image and becoming supremely confident. once you achieve that, everything else falls into place like dominos. honestly, if a girl like that had asked me for my number, my knee-jerk reply would have likely been "you want my number?... why do you want my number?" now think in your head of an extremely shy/nervous person saying that, and then think of a confident person smiling to her and saying it calmly/teasingly to her ... that is the difference confid…
/r/seduction01/09/12 09:06 AM
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you are pretty much describing the difference between a "cute" girl and a "hot" girl, and yes, i would say the "cute" ones get hit on more often, simply because a much larger percentage of guys feel "qualified" to hit on them. also, hot girls are socialized in an entirely different way. they are always used to being the center of attention and typically can get what they want. cute girls often have better personalities because they understand early on that they need to try to compensate a little…
/r/seduction31/08/12 09:15 PM
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there is nothing wrong with wanting a serious relationship - in fact, i see that as a much better 'end goal' than trying to fuck 100 girls for example. nobody wants to be alone. but paradoxically, people who just date/fuck countless partners with nothing to show for it will also end up feeling alone in a different kind of way. the key to seduction, as i see it, is setting yourself up as best as possible for the right person when they come along to create a meaningful relationship with them. if y…
/r/seduction31/08/12 09:09 PM
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a few things: actions speak louder than words, and if she really wanted to pursue things with you, she would not be so 'unavailable'. move on to other girls, and stop being her lapdog in the workplace. you sound like you eat up everything she says, do nothing but smile and giggle around her. go a few days at work with barely talking to her. not to be passive aggressive, just because you need to show her that you really don't care that much about her. counter-intuitive, but it yields results... u…
/r/seduction31/08/12 08:53 PM
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god you are clueless
/r/seduction20/08/12 11:52 PM
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"send her a text message saying it was fun to meet her" don't do that. that's the type of shit you say to a friend. if you want to fuck her, let her know it. "you looked fucking hot in that ____ (skirt / dress / outfit ) tonight, it has my mind racing ;) " is a better way to say "was nice to meet you tonight"
/r/seduction20/08/12 07:07 PM
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what kind of pizza did you all order
/r/seduction20/08/12 07:03 PM
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"if she smiles, says hi, or shows interest in any way, go get her #" OP: hi ! (eyes squinting because he is not wearing sunglasses outside) GIRL: hi OP's thought process: wow she told me hi back ! OP: why don't you give me your number? GIRL: ok, i'd love to ! (because she clearly would just seconds after saying hi to you for the first time) OP's thought process: i'm so smooth OP confirmed for possible moron, and sunglasses are alpha as fuck.
/r/seduction20/08/12 06:56 PM
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i've been in your shoes OP. you need to start pursuing the very activities that interest you the most, for two reasons 1) to meet new people and 2) any time you share a common passion, it is way easier to form a friendship
/r/seduction20/08/12 06:43 PM
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being rude will only get you so far. it would be a joke to go through life being an asshole intentionally because at the end of the day, nobody will ever like you. strive to be the "coolest" in the true sense of the term - someone who is always the most calm, collected, happy, interesting, and fun person and you will have way more potential than the rude person
/r/seduction20/08/12 06:40 PM
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every female roommate i have ever had wanted my dick and it was only a matter of time before it came to this... and the attraction was not always reciprocated by me. i'd much rather have a male roommate who i am already good friends with than a female roommate who i am good friends with, because guys are infinitely way more fun to live with. but if you don't have that option, it would not be terrible to room with the girls esp. because it makes sense for you logistically.
/r/seduction20/08/12 06:36 PM
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always plan things, always include people, always invite 2 girls per every 1 guy, take risks, and be the life of the party i can't say i lord my own social circle because i lack the time / social-network cohesiveness (too many separate clusters of friends) / motivation to do so. it does have its benefits. mainly, the more "social" you are perceived by females, the higher your "social value" to them is and the more they want to associate with you (often sexually). i would say to do so, you defini…
/r/seduction20/08/12 06:24 PM
2

i would never seek "permission" from a female to talk to her other female friends as you allude to in 1) always be friendly and open, though. no upside to being closed off and cold
/r/seduction20/08/12 06:13 PM
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this was all well said.
/r/seduction20/08/12 06:06 PM
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"if you have any text game at all, one thing you hate is waiting for a reply" stopped reading right there. girls are not socially retarded, and as often as you think you might text, they text even more. waiting is part of the game for both sexes. they play it too. the key is to never invest yourself emotionally during that waiting period all you have basically done is create a defense mechanism relating to texting
/r/seduction17/08/12 09:25 AM
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lol. listen man, the reality is you basically should have confronted her when she said that to you i would grant her a little leeway if so far she has invested more total money in dates than you have... but if you have put more in than her and yet she is still asking for even more? that is a joke. she is probably using you just to have another guy dole on her and to subsidize her idea of how hot she thinks she is. so in short, tell her that if she has a problem with you not paying more than what…
/r/seduction17/08/12 08:23 AM
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don't say that. all of what you wanted to say to her should have already been implied if you both had a fun time on the date. if you are going to text her something, don't relate it to the date you just had. make it forward-looking, not backward-looking. and i'd probably wait until the next day and flirt with her e.g. text her the next day "i can't wait to see you in your yoga outfit <sunday> ;)" and take it from there. the idea is to build attraction and show her that you are sexual. text with …
/r/seduction17/08/12 08:16 AM
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"I feel I look like an idiot" this is exactly what you don't want to do - to be self-conscious because you are going to project that. go with the mentality that even though you might not be the biggest / best-looking / richest guy, you are going to make it your mission to have the most fun there. people go to clubs to be social and often to meet new people. and mostly all of those people would rather leave feeling like they got their money's worth and have at least one story to show for their ni…
/r/seduction17/08/12 07:57 AM
2

intelligence is the most important thing to me besides having an "attractive" appearance. i will grow bored of even the hottest piece of ass if she has no substance - probably sooner rather than later too. other things i value in her: nice hair, nice smile, nice upbringing, more independent than dependent
/r/seduction17/08/12 07:37 AM
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is this guy your role model or something? he comes off like a huge faggot trying to simplify things coming down to "irrationality". in all of those instances there were probably several other factors at play that he neglected to inform you about yet focuses on one specific thing he told her and acts as if that was the DO OR DIE moment there is. i'm not saying he gave bad advice, per se, because in theory it is good to be spontaneous and speak your mind at all times. but the fact that he laces ce…
/r/seduction16/08/12 12:52 AM
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upvoted for rockclimbing anecdote, and that's not a bad date idea. but realistically, in the 2 week time period between your first/second date she probably was on the fence about you but made no worthwhile connections with any other guy so she opted to give you another chance. so to OP i say, don't move on until she has visibly moved on. but if you do get another shot, you need to not become nervous and awkward this time. in the meantime, it would not hurt to make light of the date if she is fee…
/r/seduction15/08/12 10:46 PM
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first of all, anyone who disagrees with "looks" being the main reason why a guy approaches someone at a bar or club is delusional. that is the harsh reality - in venues like bars and clubs, your are fighting for the attention of those guys against all other women. there are some exceptions to this - but you need to have a really awesome personality/charisma/social side to you to overcompensate and even then you still need "passable" looks. always smile and show that you respect the guy. eye cont…
/r/seduction15/08/12 10:18 PM
1

zone out or if they keep bringing it up, confront them saying "you two are annoying to be around when you talk about guys " and just leave it at that
/r/seduction14/08/12 11:44 PM
1

you are all making mistakes by tryin to go out of your way to bring a plus 1 to a wedding. I promise you of the bride and groom are your age there will be plenty of other singles there too
/r/seduction14/08/12 11:37 PM
2

you need to decide what is for you and how you define success. sounds like you haven't defined yours own goals but are letting others define what your goals should be
/r/seduction14/08/12 11:34 PM
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wait exactly 1.618 days before texting and you're golden
/r/seduction14/08/12 11:32 PM
2

douches leading douches
/r/seduction14/08/12 11:26 PM
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sounds like your parties have too many hot dogs, and not enough buns if you catch my drift. girls thrive on skewed guy:girl ratios to feel super important and the center of attention. anyway, you need to accept her being popular and just isolate her at one of the parties - ask her to come somewhere with you then make a move. when you are competing against other guys , the only way to win in the short term is by being more aggressive than them.
/r/seduction14/08/12 10:55 AM
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you're too caught up on defining your life with labels. discover something bigger to strive for, because the goals you have are not likely to grant you happiness even if you succeed.
/r/seduction14/08/12 10:46 AM
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girls do take note of body language, grasshopper. you can stand out from the rest of the field if you master it. high school is nothing like the real world. cool kids are mainly annointed by their peers (jocks, the best looking, the richest) and if you are not among them you will probably have difficulty getting with a lot of girls. my best advice is take big risks, even socially - one thing I wish I had done more in HS. but get to know everyone and practice kit talking / relating to different g…
/r/seduction14/08/12 10:38 AM
2

you are putting pussy on a pedestal my friend. if she is going away to grad school and you will be working, what is the point of investing time with her especially when she previously friend-zoned you for being a nice-guy? if she got cheated on, she probably was not all that to begin with or just has bad personal issues. anyways, your question boils down to whether you should act passively or aggressively, and my answer to this is almost always going to be aggressively. again, i am saying that t…
/r/seduction14/08/12 01:46 AM
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listen, it is a lot easier said than done and you need to take any advice telling you how to do this with a grain of salt. the only true way is to have another friend wing for you to keep the ugly girl's attention. yes, treat everyone with respect and be polite / talkative to the ugly friend, but don't make the mistake of losing focus on your target. if you are by yourself and you have no other options, it is best to be upfront that you only like the hot girl, so she never feels like she is stea…
/r/seduction14/08/12 01:29 AM
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hotel game? can you elaborate on this for the sake of my own curiosity? anyways, here are my thoughts on this subject. in general, you should have an easier time talking to people the less personal the method of conversation is. the heirarchy looks something like: facebook, twitter are the least personal, then texting, then phone convos, then face-to-face interaction is the most personal. it is a good thing you are comfortable with the face-to-face because a lot of people is terrible at it since…
/r/seduction13/08/12 04:56 PM
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no, i am repulsed by obesity. fatness is naturally selected against. why the fuck would i ever want to reproduce inferior offspring and mate with a fat girl?
/r/seduction13/08/12 04:31 PM
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no, lol. absolutely never text her "hey it was really nice to meet you" type shit , your ideal move is to say nothing for about 1 day, maybe 2 days, then text her out of the blue. "hey it's eequalsmc from the other night. you get back alright in the end? x" this is bad on a few different levels - never re-introduce yourself, you need to assume she knows you and wants your cock. if she is a bitch and asks "who is this again?" respond with something like "eequalsmc, from ____ (place you both met)"…
/r/seduction11/08/12 11:38 PM
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even 5-6 women think in their mind's eye that they deserve a 8-10 guy. call it the delusional fat whore's paradox. if she is thin or has a decent body, i guess there are worse things in life ... but if she is a cellulite-ridden fat as fuck whale, i would literally vomit 10 times consecutively at the mere thought of her naked body
/r/seduction11/08/12 02:10 PM
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i think you should go for the finding her ancestor's name in the ellis island records close instead
/r/seduction11/08/12 02:05 PM
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quick tangent - the pickup community is retarded for using the term 'HB' which is a glaring contradiction when followed with a number like 6.5. but OP, you are cool in my book for being honest with yourself about that. some kids always exaggerate and say "i was with this HB9.5/HB10" and i just close my eyes and imagine the fat whore they really talked to... i fucking love you for using the cat/dog person opener, because cats and dogs are the real deal damnit. lol if you related that to her perso…
/r/seduction11/08/12 01:46 PM
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anyone who wears a t-shirt under a blazer is a huge fucking tool in my book
/r/seduction11/08/12 01:30 PM
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what do i think? you had an attention grabbing title that i clicked on and then i came across this wall of text and lost all interest
/r/seduction11/08/12 01:25 PM
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'seduction' is more of a 2way street than some people realize. middle-tier or average girls often have difficulty in dating at times because they have too high expectations, and they too get friendzoned at times. i would know, i have friendzoned numerous women because the thought of me putting my dick into a genetically inferior being far below my level repulses me. anyways, there have been many girls who i have dated who were ridiculously gifted at seduction. the common characteristics they sha…
/r/seduction11/08/12 01:21 PM
2

you can immediately impact your success by thinking far less and just going with the flow. the harder you try to think your way through the dance floor, the less dancing you are probably going to do and the less social you will appear which is a bad thing because you want to seem like the one having the most fun if you run into those girls again or other exchange students, know that you have a HUGE leg up since you are a local and very few people blow off locals when traveling, because part of t…
/r/seduction11/08/12 01:09 PM
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lol, you have quite the interesting motivation. the only way to talk the talk is to walk the walk at some point. not sure what advice to give because you are married. i agree with the guy who said wing for your friends and have some guys-nights-out. also, maybe watch the movie "hall pass" for an accurate depiction of what you are trying to do
/r/seduction11/08/12 04:23 AM
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your post just reads like a shit load of fuck. if she says you are both going too fast when you are just kissing, she probably lost some attraction to you or just has terrible self-esteem issues. listen closely, you have a golden opportunity here. you need to text her the following " you are right, i was just pretending to like you, all i wanted was sex... at first, at least" and then don't text her back again no matter what, unless she has reconsidered her stance this will accomplish a few thin…
/r/seduction11/08/12 04:13 AM
0

you played spin the bottle? what are you, in 6th grade? anyways, christ... you have worded this so vaguely it is almost impossible to give you any specific, non-general advice. rarely are there do-overs when it comes to attraction... and the only "resets" often involve some time period away from each other. i'm not sure that you blew it if she is still texting you, but the time is now for you to make a move. the easiest way for you to get back on track is to flirt big time with her via texting (…
/r/seduction11/08/12 04:00 AM
2

"greek is for the weak" i have to disagree with this and i was never in a frat. based on what i learned, frats/sororities develop pretty good bonds and have a solid social scene. i think gramnampkin is trying to say you should not let being in a frat "define" who you are because there are definitely some losers in greek life who get all too caught up in it. but frats are absolutely a great vehicle to throw / attend parties. greek life isn't for everyone, and during my freshman year it was not fo…
/r/seduction11/08/12 03:50 AM
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this is good advice that a lot of people overlook, simply coming down to you picking spots where your baseline social value is much higher. and also, there are some potential trickle-down-effects to this. for instance, if i take a date to some bar or restaurant, and return by myself another time but recognize the waitress / bartender , she will without a doubt be more interested in you and probably ask you who she was. good things come when you raise your social worth
/r/seduction11/08/12 03:42 AM
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i just read this, and i agree with what you say as a means for "dispelling tension" but i think you failed to ask the big picture question: why is this 'bully' standing in your way in the first place? it really boils down to a them not having respect for you for some possible reason - maybe because you wore a neon pink shirt to try to stand out, or that you look like you have never set foot in a gym in your life, or because you approached a girl they like but see you as being inferior... or mayb…
/r/seduction10/08/12 06:27 PM
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you should know the term +EV it is almost always a +EV move to demonstrate you are passionate about "cooler" things first (sports, music, etc.) and then at a later on reveal your "nerdy" side. just ask yourself - what celebrities has this girl probably had a crush on before? likely some athlete, actor, or musician... far less likely is a hipster nerdy kid that made some CPU program. but that is not to say girls won't deeply appreciate that you have a "nerdy" side to you, because almost everyone …
/r/seduction10/08/12 01:12 AM
3

"just whip it out" is a proper closing technique? interesting anyway, the key to it all is to just be confident, and to make bold moves when the opportunity comes. assuming the girl is into you and has been sending out good body language messages to you, put yourself in her shoes: would she rather the guy she likes just smoothly and confidently grab her hand or head, move in closer to her, and kiss her? or would she rather the guy sit aloof, ask her "can i kiss you?" , and then once he has permi…
/r/seduction10/08/12 01:04 AM
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what is your end game here?? this chick sounds like a total loser and a walking cum dumpster, you should stop putting pussy on a pedestal and cancel that bitch. red flags: she claims to not "know you" but proceeds to tell you about how she likes her tits if she had any social value, she probably would have not responded to some of the lame bs you said / asked her barely knows you yet invites you to go to a strip club with her keep us updated on what VDs/STDs she gives you
/r/seduction10/08/12 12:47 AM
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my short answer is never talk about yourself. this is for a few reasons actions speak louder than words. don't talk about how you are the man, show her with actions that you are. oftentimes people talk about themselves to try to compensate for something or demonstrate value. problem is, demonstrating value is rarely done through words alone contrary to popular belief. most people can see through this bs people always say girls just want to talk about themselves, but i don't find that necessarily…
/r/seduction08/08/12 03:23 AM
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i can give you opinions based on some pretty crazy vacations i have been on at ridiculous all-inclusive resorts. never done a cruise because i'm claustrophobic but the same stuff should apply. what to do (edit: this is advanced stuff and you need to be fit/attractive/outgoing to maximize result): find out exactly where all the bars/cubs are on the first night day you arrive. scope them all out and come night time, figure out where the people seem to go. talk to anyone you see in the day and ask …
/r/seduction07/08/12 12:08 AM
1

what i would have done starting after you said delicious: walk right over to their table with my ice cream i haven't taken a bite from and say "here, try this" and if they say "ok" go from there, trying to be funny. if they say "no thanks" i might say "that's cool" then sit down at their table and say as serious as i can "so what are we talking about girls?" and laugh pretty hard if they suddenly turn bitch at this point i would laugh once more and be like "just kidding, have a nice day" but if …
/r/seduction06/08/12 11:50 PM
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well that is a big problem if your gf is a 5. i think you have probably gotten too comfortable with her and that keeping her around just as a crutch but she is holding you back from doing the things you want to. you need to make the tough decision and while i am not saying break up with her, i am telling you to strongly weigh your options and ask yourself is she is going to help you become the person you want to be. as far as meeting people at the gym - i am a guy who has made two of my best fri…
/r/seduction06/08/12 11:11 PM
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let me ask you a simple question: how happy are you with your girlfriend on a scale of 1-10? i too have a serious girlfriend and most of the time we have lazy weekends. we also live in one of the biggest cities with the best night life scene in the united states right in the damn middle of it. sure, we go on many vacations a year, eat at fancy restaurants, and all of that. but mainly it is just me and her and very rarely do either of us bring a friend to tag along. i have zero, and i cannot stre…
/r/seduction04/08/12 01:03 AM
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lol, just watched some of that video... i think it is pathetic if some people look up to that guy as a "role model" - the only, and i stress ONLY, girl he has a chance with is an insecure high school or college girl because he kind of comes off effeminate and immature seriously, this guy could not come off "less-threatening" i am pretty sure he is fast-tracking himself to being friendzoned in just about every one of these examples. all he proves is that he can get a number but the body language …
/r/seduction04/08/12 12:44 AM
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competition is embedded in our genetic code. back in caveman times it was a free-for-all to impregnate women and spread your genes, and it still is today, just under governance of all of the modern fancy social constructs we have in place. i justify that you can be as competitive as you want in anything you want because it is your own life to live as you see fit, but i would throw the caveat out there that you should never let random girls you don't know get in the way of other more substantial …
/r/seduction04/08/12 12:34 AM
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that's not even a shit test bro, just smile, pretend to fumble around the camera a bit for some laughs, then if it is an iphone say something dumb like "holy shit, you have an iphone???!!! i've never even seen one of these before" for some laughs or a digicam say something like "wow, you are one of the few people left who still use an actual camera... its gonna be a bitch for you to instagram this" etc. just something to make her laugh ... just don't mean mug take the picture and hand it back, u…
/r/seduction04/08/12 12:05 AM
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also, inb4 my comment is downvoted to oblivion when i gave a legitimate response unlike this tool who got upvoted to the max for encouraging your beta-ness
/r/seduction03/08/12 01:20 PM
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lol, the exact bs i expected to hear. OP is being honest with himself, you telling him color does not mean a thing is false. it absolutely does, and it means OP has to work much harder to dispel the myths that will set him back on his personal endeavors, whatever they might be. the people who change the most do so by finding the shit they HATE about themselves then addressing that, not by focusing on the redeeming qualities then making it better. fool
/r/seduction03/08/12 01:08 PM
1

lol so beta "i like derp but i like you more :)" inb4 OP updates with lies about how he slept with her she clearly sees you as just a friend, this is why she was trying to dispel awkwardness by bringing one of her own friends so she didn't have to suffer through an entire night with you the proof is in the "awwwwww thanks! " text - she completely sees you as a nice-guy and harmless right now gl turning this around, you will have to dig yourself out of the hole. also, learn how to flirt better wi…
/r/seduction03/08/12 12:56 PM
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agree a lot with this guy
/r/seduction03/08/12 12:46 PM
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inb4 all the dr. phil "believe in yourself, love yourself" bs advice i know i am going to get downvoted for this but i do not care. you are 100 % right that you are at the "bottom of the totem pole" so to speak. be it through physical appearance, mainstream media's perception, the fact that you people all look alike (partial joke but partially being serious), the fact that china/korea/japan/etc are not considered to be "sexy" cultures ... i mean, there is a long list and i could go on. now, step…
/r/seduction03/08/12 12:35 PM
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lol. you are doing it way wrong. i think you should focus more on your own social life first before these other things. i don't know where you ran into these girls at or the context, but chances are when you left they whispered to each other "omg creep lol" because face it - you convey that you have terrible social worth and reek of desperation when you are trying to approach random groups of girls with some motive. i am a super confident guy and i would NEVER consciously do what you did. if i t…
/r/seduction03/08/12 08:53 AM
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honestly it sounds like she is a bit of a slut bro. most sluts i know resort to that kind of behavior begging a guy she has barely been with for sex. it also sounds like she might be fat or ugly since you seem a bit put off at the thought of fucking her. anyways, in most relationships people fuck within the first 3-4 weeks unless they live with parents (lol). already you are doomed because you are thinking too hard, thinking big picture thoughts (date her seriously down the road) instead of just…
/r/seduction03/08/12 08:45 AM
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As a super confident guy, listen to me here. ALWAYS PAY more than she does for the first date. Reasons for this include: projecting that you are interested in her. any time when i was on a first date and i had quickly decided i was not into the girl, i asked her to split the tab. believe me, she probably took that as a negative sign it is a win-win for you. if you have money to throw around, perfect. if you are barely getting by? surely you can find a way to scrape together 50 dollars for a dinn…
/r/seduction03/08/12 08:39 AM
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