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Huh. Well, you’re right that it’s a different culture. My ignorance is nearly 100% in that area; you could tell me that black folks like green teeth, and I’d neither believe nor disbelieve it because I have zero reference. I have black colleagues whom I’m friendly with, but I don’t think I’m in their inner circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:17 PM
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Averages only speak to averages. Population statistics literally cannot break out groups unless they’re deliver breaking out subgroups, rather than looking at the population as a whole. Even with that said, statistics do not support the claim that ‘women prefer criminals.’ Women like confidence and charm, but if you have two men with confidence and charm, one of whom is a criminal sociopath and the other of whom is not, the latter is going to win every time. Furthermore,saying that a man is ‘hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:15 PM
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Again, I have never seen or heard women speaking as you describe, despite almost 50 years as a woman. I have seen men being profoundly misogynistic in person. That might be a generational thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:09 PM
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IDK where you’re hanging out, but I’ve literally never heard a woman say that criminal men are attractive, and I’m pushing 50 years as a woman. The trend I’m seeing online right now is that ‘a high value man is an average woman’: no criminal record, job, home, good personal hygiene, car, good family relationships, friends, etc. Which is still not nice to men, but is almost the opposite of what you’re claiming above. The thing is, there are very different groups of women out there. I’m in the upp…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:18 PM
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Likewise, online fora dedicated to women expressing grievances about men might not be the best places to get a good idea of average women’s conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:05 PM
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There’s also a lot of men online telling each other what women want, and acting like it’s the women themselves saying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:30 PM
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No, men don’t all prefer that. When I was a teenager, thinness to the point of emaciation was the fad, and any woman who didn’t have her ribs and hip bones sticking out was considered ‘fat.’ A lot of men still prefer that. Other men are more attracted to women who are rounder than what’s currently in magazines. Not everyone wants a tradcon relationship, not everyone wants kids, etc- and that’s good for all of us, because it means that there’s probably someone out there who’s attracted to our uni…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:27 PM
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Head on over to r/mensrights. It’s 99.9% ‘women are evil.’ There are also a LOT of porn/violence subs (see r/againsthatesubreddits for examples).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:15 PM
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Similar thing happened to me, similar age. I was walking in the park with my dog, near my dad’s house. Dude my dad’s age approached me and asked if he could talk to me, and I said yes, because I figured he must be one of my friend’s parents who had recognized me from picking up his kid at school or something (I made up this entire scenario in my head to make it ok, because why TF else would a dude my dad’s age approach a strange girl in the park…?!), and maybe his daughter was home sick from cla…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 09:12 PM
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This isn’t wrong, and relationships between people of vastly different social/wealth classes often break up because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 09:03 PM
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I can notice that other men are 'attractive,' but it's kind of in a distant sense. It's the same way I notice that a car is well-designed and well-kept, or a horse is pretty, or a flower. I can even be absolutely amazed at how pretty a flower is... but I don't want to have sex with it, or have a relationship. I don't even necessarily want it in my own garden, even if I think it looks fabulous in someone else's.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 07:54 PM
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When you make a claim, it is on you to support it. It’s up to you to use that search engine, not me. I do see where a neural net AI could approach something resembling consciousness, but it would have to be vastly more complex than current versions. I don’t think there’s enough compute currently, with or without a body.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:11 AM
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…this thing with the chatbot is more of a neurosis or mania. That's something you can't even touch. It's all in their head. A robot would be real, and at that point responsive at many levels, maybe with even some form of consciousness. That’s part of my point. People are already forming what they see as relationships with chatbots. Stick the chatbot into a robot, and it’ll be that much more compelling… for both sexes. Experts say that once they have bodies and sense the world in real time consci…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 11:17 PM
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As I already noted, there are a lot of women who already have “relationships” with chatbots. If he had a physical body and could have sex (when she wants it), open jars, and lift heavy objects, so much the better. And that’s gross. Yes, humans are often annoying and real relationships take effort. That’s part of what makes them real and rewarding. Chatbots and sexbots are basically a form of wireheading, which, as the prospect becomes more and more realistically possible, I’m finding out that I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:56 PM
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First off, not everyone will want a sexbot because, eeeew. Same reason not everyone has a flashlight. Most households will be ok with robot maids, but that’s not quite the same thing. Second off, why are you assuming that male sexbots won’t be a thing? Jigolos are a thing, and you can’t even have a pretend relationship with them. Over at r/myboyfriendisAI (don’t go unless you’re ready for serious squick) there are more women posting than men, to the shame of our gender. It’s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:25 PM
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Most women also can’t wait for sex bots. The men who want mommybangmaids will get robot mommybangmaids, and the rest of us can go about our human lives unbothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:23 PM
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citation needed I’m honestly fine with OF, which as far as I can tell from my remove, is completely under the control of the women doing it. I dislike about 99% of porn because so much of it shows actresses pretending to enjoy degrading or even painful behavior from their partners, and teaches men to be crap in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:21 PM
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burning someone to death is torture. If the dude was self-immolating as a form of protest, that's one thing; if she was doing it only for the prupose of harming him, it's another.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 06:44 AM
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Sexually victimizing people is wrong. Physically abusing people is wrong, and physically abusing them to the point that they are seriously harmed is worse still. Murdering them is the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 05:17 PM
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It’s completely different for multiple reasons. First, every woman knows that dudes sometimes flip out and go nuts if you reject them bluntly in person. Insults about 1/3 of the time, often with screaming, and physical contact or even violence on occasion. On the other hand, he’s much less likely to whip out his dick within the first 30 words. Second, in-person interactions are much more intense, even when there are no insults, than screen interactions. There are a whole host of non-verbal cues …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 05:41 PM
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Right. And women who aren’t swiping on you aren’t rejecting you, any more than you are ‘choosing’ them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:44 AM
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It’s ‘being rejected’ only to the same degree that a shopper choosing one brand of canned beans instead of another, for no reason but that the label on one is prettier, is ‘rejecting’ the other can of beans. It’s such a fast, shallow decision, on an app designed to promote meaningless hookups, that it basically has zero reflection on him at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:27 AM
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There are roughly 8,736 hours in a year. To have been rejected ‘10s of thousands of times,’ you can’t be putting a lot of effort into any given pass if you are also not a NEET and are getting any normal amount of sleep, unless you’re in your 70’s or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:22 AM
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Every woman on Tinder within 500 miles of you not swiping the same direction as you != ‘being rejected.’
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:08 AM
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That depends on money, not gonads.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:04 AM
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Only if you only care about no-strings, no-attraction, no-emotional connection sex. Basically, only if you want to masturbate with a human body.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:57 PM
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The female cheater lost her job. That’s a significant consequence. It’s a pity that the male cheater didn’t also, but men are almost never punished for infidelity, including in the golden era that you rhapsodize about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:11 PM
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Teenage women have to behave like jaded old women because men can’t be held to a standard of basic human decency. Yup. Speaking as a jaded old woman, thankfully married to a decent man who has self control and honor, fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 12:04 AM
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Young men are begging to be useful and wanted. But only in ways not coded as even slightly ‘feminine.’ There are a lot of young men out there who apparently think that their dick will fall off if they are overly competent at grocery shopping or any kind of care work. This is not all young men, and possibly not even a majority, but JFC the paranoia about the ‘loss of masculinity’ in some circles is very, very deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:00 PM
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It’s not hard to assign Nazi goals to someone when they’re literally spouting Nazi propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:05 AM
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Have you ever sung to a woman you were dating, or trying to make a good impression on?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:53 AM
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I wish I could give this more than one upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:51 AM
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Anyone who thinks like this doesn’t jot understand what ‘being a decent person’ means.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:49 AM
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‘What they missed out on,’ ie, by being monogamous rather than fucking anything that moves? My boy, I hate to break it to you, but most men have far more sex inside of a relationship than outside of one. And a man who wants an open relationship can find women who want open relationships. And women are compensated for the work they do within a marriage as well as the career they missed out on. Look at the salaries of live-in personal chefs, live-in nannies, and live-in housekeepers. WRT compensat…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:45 PM
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Men don’t ’get women pregnant,’ unless they’re rapists. Most of the time, the two of them are joint participants. That means that the man is just as responsible as the woman for the condition, but biologically the entire physical burden is on her. As for ‘abstinence until you’re ready to have a kid,’ ask Piper Palin how well that works. We all come from a hundred thousand generations of people who failed to keep it in their pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 09:48 PM
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See points 1 and 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 04:32 AM
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They are compensated for the work they did, not the husband they picked. And do you really want to go to calling women sex workers for having sex with their husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 04:30 AM
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People have a little bit more control over whom they marry than over major economic forces. This is not a huge ask. Poly people should be with poly people and monogamous people with monogamous people. From what I hear, more women are poly than men, so it shouldn’t even be that hard. And yes, women who care about earning potential should not marry men who think they should sacrifice their careers for his, and men should be realistic that, if they want kids, they’re either going to have to compens…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 02:16 AM
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So, that’s not correct. I think the majority of the women I know, based on my conversations with them, enjoy sex and have it primarily as a bonding ritual, not as a way to get off or have extreme orgasms. Pretty much all of us can do better, physically, alone than we can with a male partner, so just getting off isn’t why we do it. IDGAF how hot a guy is, or how big his dick is, or how great he is at sex. I’m not going to be able to get off with him at all if I can’t relax, and I’m not going to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 06:37 PM
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This doesn’t explain why lesbians have better/more orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 11:41 PM
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Yes. The people who talk about it are not actually doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:29 PM
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We mocked, and continue to mock, men who ‘GTOW’ and then spend 90% of their time complaining about women. Men who actually do their own thing are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:06 PM
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1)It takes 2 to cause a pregnancy. 2)some pregnancies are caused by rape. 3)some pregnancies are wanted, but don’t go well. 4)some pregnancies occur despite proper use of birth control. In general, the most efficacious forms of birth control have the highest up front costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:04 PM
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Therefore men should take more responsibility for contraception.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:00 PM
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It’s not a flex. That’s why no one is talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:59 PM
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The women who were talking about 4B were not the women who were dating men who voted for Trump. It was kind of like the BLM protesters who did vandalism in Portland- how is that helping anything? You’re only hurting the people who already agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:57 PM
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I would love it if young women could show up to a date in cargo shorts and no makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:19 AM
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Pretty sure that was sarcasm
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:12 AM
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FWIW, some women do YOLO out of marriage… probably in similar proportions to the number of men who do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:11 AM
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HIS HIS HIS I agree that, if you think that a wife is some sort of semi-parasitic, non-contributing pet, you absolutely should not get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:08 AM
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I don’t want anyone to try to be more ‘dominant’ than they naturally want to be, in any given circumstance. I’m a senior tech at my lab, and that means I’m naturally dominant over junior techs regardless of gender, despite not being a very aggressive or dominant person in general. If some junior tech dude feels like he’s being emasculated by taking instruction from me, it’s a problem. There’s one guy who’s junior to me, but has a lot more experience in the blood bank. I ask him for help in the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:20 PM
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We’re not popping out the babies, though. That’s what has y’all in a panic now. And yeah: having a properly installed car seat saves lives. Innocent little kids, remember? Friend of mine was killed in a head-on crash in the freeway. Her three month old was in the back, in a properly installed car seat. When EMS got there, my friend was a pulped mess and the car was a crinkled ball of tinfoil, but they could hear the baby crying even though they couldn’t see her. They took the car apart to dig he…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:15 AM
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I agree that pregnancy is avoidable, and having children is a choice. So do all of the women, including myself, choosing to reproduce either not at all, or below the replacement rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:15 AM
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Yes, I’m aware of what it is. And I agree that it is much easier for two people to get a home together than for one person to get a home by themself. That still doesn’t explain how it’s relevant to single women buying more homes than single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:13 AM
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If he didn’t want to be monogamous, he should have married someone who was poly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:01 AM
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I enjoy the tasks, and I enjoy the security of knowing that my investments in my home will either remain mine, or financially benefit me in the future:)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 11:56 PM
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Not sure how that applies to more single women than single men owning homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 11:46 PM
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Which part do you doubt? That more single women than single men own homes? That the pay gap is caused by children? Both of those things are quite widely documented.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 11:45 PM
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I would say it’s self-deceptive to claim to be something you’re not, and still hypocrisy to want to be promiscuous while demanding something else from your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:27 PM
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I wish we lived in a world where people could be who they naturally are, without gender stereotypes and social pressure. There would still be bimodal distributions on a lot of things, but no one would be called ‘unmanly’ or ‘unfeminine’ for not falling on the mode. On dating apps, the first questions would be, ‘I have genitalia X, I am attracted to genitalia B, I do/do not want my own biological children with my romantic partner, I do/do not want exclusivity.’
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:21 PM
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snort https://nypost.com/2025/01/29/real-estate/single-women-own-millions-more-homes-than-single-men-in-the-us/ And no, it’s not because ‘they get it in the divorce.’ Young, college-educated women statistically earn more than young men in the same demographic… until they have kids. It is the responsibility of caring for children, not being female, that causes the wage gap. If a woman eschews marriage and children, she’s going to statistically be better off than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:10 PM
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No. I hope they’re happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:42 AM
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Way too many modern men think that they deserve a mommy bangmaid who works just as many hours as them, but picks up the home and child care while they kick back with a beer and video games after work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:57 AM
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Registering for the draft is not conscription. And it’s also not women demanding that men register for the draft, and not women starting wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:55 AM
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If I hit someone with a baseball bat, such that they incur exactly $10K of lost work and medical fees, is that the same as hacking their bank account and stealing exactly $10K?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:54 AM
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Also right wing: no Head Start, no Medicaid, no paid parental leave, no public schools.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:54 PM
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If you think marriage is only about sex, then you absolutely should never get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:50 PM
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1)Your wallet is not your body. 2)Men do not sacrifice their current and future earning potential to the relationship the same way that women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:50 PM
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I’ve been with my husband about 11 years now, and we’re doing pretty well. I frequent this sub partly to remind myself of how great he is compared to the men on here, and partly because I hope to save some young men and women from going down the hateful terp path.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:53 PM
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That’s why a barter marketplace is a better metaphor. You go to market because you have a cow, and you need some grain or a barrel or a multitude of things. But maybe the cooper need a dairy cow, not a beef cow. Or maybe your cow is ugly. Or maybe your cow is barren. Maybe the cooper doesn’t want a cow at all. You have to find the best trade with someone who has something close to what you want, who also wants what you’re selling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:56 AM
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I think that, if you’re conscious enough to speak during sex, something is going wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:24 AM
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I think porn consumption is natural and, in some contexts, even healthy for men. But the sex acts portrayed in a lot of porn go from degrading to uncomfortable to painful to dangerous, and men who expect real sex to look like porn sex are bad lovers at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:16 PM
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That would be true of other false accusations as well. Basically, rape is not different than other crimes in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 01:01 AM
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The research I have seen does not support that assertion. This: Wikipedia article is a good, well-sourced description of the current consensus. Every paper that sincerely investigates actual false accusations (vs police declining to investigate, charges dismissed, etc) comes up with a false accusation rate that is on par with false accusations of assault, theft, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 10:52 PM
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False accusations do happen, but they’re extremely rare. Most of the guys who say they were falsely accused were not falsely accused, or at a minimum were behaving in a very sketchy even if technically legal way. It’s kind of like when some men say that their ex-wife ‘won’t let him see his kids,’ but didn’t actually ask for greater custody in the settlement and doesn’t want to have to ever make them meals, shop for school clothes, or do any of the actual work of caring for them. Edit: my dad ask…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 08:41 PM
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No, it compares male attention to excess water. It’s the quiet of saying that men are dying of thirst and women are dying of drowning.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 08:38 PM
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‘Incels’ should just have sex with each other. Problem solved. ‘But wait,’ they say. ‘We’re not attracted to these men. We don’t want to have sex with each other.’ Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:52 AM
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Look at what you just wrote
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:12 AM
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It is reasonable for men to be upset that they don’t have a relationship. It is not reasonable for them to be upset at women that they don’t have relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:55 AM
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I think most people in their 20’s aren’t good relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:00 PM
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Of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:43 PM
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It’s not as big as a dildo any woman bad but, and comes with a lot more baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:09 AM
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Yes. It’s basically saying that women are borderline sociopathic, and given that I think a lot of terps are basically sociopaths, it’s one more thing that is just straight up projection on their parts.
/r/ExRedPill01/05/25 10:33 PM
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I want someone who treats me like an equal, not like a superior.
/r/ExRedPill01/05/25 10:20 PM
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“Premium” includes “faithful.”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:02 PM
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You’re not going to have any success until women are not better off alone than they are with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:48 PM
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1)did you actually see these people having sex? 2)I don’t think that anyone denies that specific people in specific contexts have way more sex than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:24 PM
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It has to do with any man. There are just so goddamn many interruptions and demands for attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 05:03 PM
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Showing friendship is not lying. Showing friendship is not making plans for a future together. If the woman in story 2 had done either of those things, I would agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:07 AM
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I hear a lot of women saying that things change drastically once a kid comes into the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:02 AM
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Because men will interrupt anything and demand attention at any time. Excuse you, random stranger man who sent a bolt of electricity down my arm by grabbing me out of nowhere?! No, telling me I look good does not make that ok. Excuse you, literally gangrenous patient asking for my phone number at work? No, I do not have relationships with patients.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:22 PM
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Yes. I’ve had friendships- both male and female- simply abandoned for reasons I do not understand. I’m incredibly socially awkward, and often fail to read situations that are completely obvious to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:15 AM
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So, ‘successful monogamy’ was not the standard in the past, either. A woman economically coerced into staying with a man she would rather have left is not ‘success,’ divorce rates notwithstanding. Couples forced to marry rather than abort unwanted pregnancies was not success. Children parented by people who hated each other was not success.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 09:30 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:18 AM
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For their sake, I sincerely hope you’re right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:20 AM
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My nieces have it worse than me because of abortion rights and the current generation of young men sneering ‘your body, my choice,’ which is rapey AF as well as anti-choice. Andrew Tate wouldn’t even recognize my existence, for which I am grateful, but my nieces are at exactly the just-approaching-puberty age that pedos like him target. I also feel sorry for them because I had the fortune to marry a man who didn’t learn about sex from porn, and most of the guys their age think that strangling so…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:37 PM
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I definitely have it better than my mother or grandmother did. I think I also have it better than my nieces, though. And that’s with the fact that I have been called into the office more than once for speaking in the same way (eg, cursing when frustrated, and not making fake nice) that no one blinks twice when a man says or acts the same way. And that’s in a northwestern state that is about as liberated as it gets anywhere. The fact that fundie baby voice is a thing anywhere, much less within th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:34 PM
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They might be in non-sexual partnered relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 10:22 PM
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I agree with your basic premise; we really need to get over the puritan fear of the human body… but why are you capitulating to the Trump admin’s fear of the word ‘woman’?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:53 PM
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Hahhahahahhahahahahha Teen love is infatuation with an idea, not an actual person. You might as well say that a stalker’s ‘love’ for a fictional character is more genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:05 AM
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100% agree that men who have this view should pay escorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:54 PM
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Because a mommy bangmaid probably would make their lives significantly easier.
/r/ExRedPill20/04/25 08:46 PM
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FWIW, I meant that ‘within 2 SD or so of normal for other factors.’
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:37 AM
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Compares women to cows Implies relationships are payment for sex Ignores that good guys have relationships, and implies that friendship is all one-way ‘trauma dumping’ and that decent people are ‘emotional tampons’ Implies that women are a resource to be hoarded like money ‘Why haven’t women ever liked me? I used to be a nice guy and now I’m an asshole, and they still don’t like me. It must be that the women are all stupid whores who only like even worse assholes than me.’
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:20 AM
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When it counts is upto the man to decide. snort Why? If another person especially a shitty asshole got to test drive my car, for free I'd be salty but hey maybe that's just me. You know that pretty much all cars are test driven by other people, right? Women do not have the same paranoia about other women having test driven their guy. And you didn’t answer the question. Why would you think that a rented sports car was better or more valued than the SUV someone chose to buy? Why do women like to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:54 AM
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He’s her first choice when her life and body are on the line. He’s her first choice when it counts. JFC, do you think that a rented sports car is ‘better’ than the SUV you chose to buy? And no, your type don’t GAF if her past beaus presented themselves as ‘nice guys.’ Y’all hate each other so much that you think any woman who’s been touched by another man is permanently tainted by his touch. And here’s the last thing: you think you’re a nice guy, but you’re really a Nice Guy(tm). You’re the type…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 10:30 PM
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That’s a lot of words for ‘I want to date a n 18 year old who doesn’t know any better.’ ‘Choosing recklessly’ IS playing games. You want to be a ‘player’ without the stigma of being a player. You want to date a hot young woman for her stupidity as well as her body, and you think that makes you somehow noble and romantic. The men women choose after they know better are not ‘consolation prizes,’ they’re better men. The fact that so many of you think that choosing to have a man’s children and make …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 09:49 PM
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I believe the term they used was ‘erotic,’ which is not necessarily the same thing. In addition, studies have shown over and over that women’s bodies prepare for sex even if they don’t want it, because things like vaginal lubrication prevent tearing or other harm. And ‘partly aversive’ doesn’t imply that it was something they wanted to have happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:30 PM
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IIRC 10 points is ~ 1SD, so 4-5 would be about half an SD. That’s significant, and also does not jibe with what I observe IRL. IQ does measure one form of intelligence, and an important one. I 100% agree with you that it’s not the only important one, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:28 PM
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It saved my life at least once.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:34 PM
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Address the point and not the source
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:34 PM
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Almost 50% found the fantasies partly or completely aversive. Half of 60% is 30%.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:33 PM
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Reword what the abstract says in your own words, including what you think ‘aversive’ means.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:31 PM
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1)’female undergraduates’ is not ‘all women.’ 2)46% found the fantasies ‘aversive,’ meaning that less than a third of women wanted the rape that some of them were fantasizing about. ‘Fantasizing’ and ‘day dreaming’ can include ‘what would I do if x happened’ type scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:20 PM
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Y’all kind of do, though. Why do you think so many men open carry or CC?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:16 PM
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That’s not what the study is about. The poster above asked you what your interpretation of the study is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:12 PM
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Greeeeeaaaaaat idea. What could possibly go wrong. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:27 AM
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So, no decent pay for ANY teachers, regardless of gender, is your new position?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:22 AM
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Teaching the a constantly described as a ‘calling’ and that women should be satisfied with helping children. Why can’t men be “called” to teaching, too? Do you really think that women want to be stepped on? Do you think that overall teacher quality- including female teachers- wouldn’t improve, if class sizes went down and pay went up? And do you really think that boys are just incapable of learning from women? No. Boys in other cultures do just fine. But too many American men and boys 1)see acad…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:45 AM
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Most women actually like and value their friends, even their male friends. Some men, apparently, do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:37 AM
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Friendzoning is the male term for fuckzoning, when a man pretends to be a woman’s friend, gets her time and support and companionship, but actually just wants to get into her pants and doesn’t actually care about her as a person.
/r/ExRedPill17/04/25 10:47 PM
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That is never the reason I hear women actually give for wanting less sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:36 PM
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And that’s fine. No one should stay in a miserable relationship. If a dude doesn’t want a relationship, as long as he’s not a liar, that’s fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:00 PM
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‘Mediocre but not physically violent’ != ‘good.’
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:59 PM
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Yeah, all of these guys who want tradwives but don’t make enough to support a family, so it really means that they want their wife to do all of the home and child care despite her also working full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:59 PM
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Cherry-picking and false attribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:58 PM
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Yeah. It didn’t matter that I wasn’t trying to physically hurt him- I was still striking out in anger. I was allowing myself to be out of my own control. It’s not ok for an adult to act like that. I’m still ashamed of it, and it was like 20 years ago. I’m grateful to my boyfriend at that time for showing me what I was doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 07:51 PM
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This is not universal. Men used to have male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:28 AM
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Yet another ‘I know what’s in your head better than you do’ dudebro. I had a crush on my brother’s best friend, a very nice guy, for about 4 years solid. It ended because he and my brother graduated, and he moved away. He was the first guy I ever had a crush on. I am not some kind of unicorn. I expressed it mostly by avoiding him at any cost, and gazing wistfully from afar, because I knew with 100% certainty that he had zero interest in little girls almost 4 years younger than himself. That’s ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:44 AM
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The two can correlate, absolutely, but they do not necessarily do so, and fear of the unknown man doesn’t necessarily translate into hatred of all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:58 AM
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The majority of experiences that men have with women are also non-aversive, outside of the dating context (eg, when they want something from the woman in question). Pretty much ALL of my black friends occasionally have totally random, completely unprompted, abject racism thrown at them at least several times a year, with profoundly scarring instances happening multiple times in their lives. Just to take one example, black students saw their grades and test scores go UP during the pandemic lockdo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:29 AM
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Fear is not the same thing as hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:23 AM
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I don’t think porn is inherently bad. It can even be healthy in some contexts. Violent, abusive, ‘edgy’ porn, OTOH… When you have a large proportion of young women saying that they have had partners attempt to strangle them without asking or prior discussion, there is a huge problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:12 AM
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No, that does not happen in the West. Some women hate all men, and a lot (most?) of women are fearful of unknown men, but neither all nor most western women hate all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:08 AM
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TRP believes that women are incapable of love. If you believe that of all people, it’s profoundly misanthropic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:06 AM
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Multiple points of disagreement, in order of your post: First, you’re talking as if all women are the same. A LOT of women out there are not interested in crazy men, and never have been, just like a lot of men were never interested in crazy women, no matter how hot the sex might have been. The problem is that nice girls are wallflowers, just like nice guys are. We’re in the science classroom for Science Olympiad, with our hair in a ponytail, jeans and a tshirt, and no makeup, not going to cheer …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:29 AM
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By that standard, it would be rational for all women to hate all men, and for all black people (all people of color, really) to hate all white people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:48 PM
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Men can still join the military, join the cloister, or join the trades if they aren’t appealing to mates. It just won’t guarantee them sex and power.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:46 PM
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Not unless you’re profoundly misanthropic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:44 PM
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As groups, men and women are the same. As individuals, people are different from each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:43 PM
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Yeah, 98% of men couldn’t give less of a fuck about you unless you get anywhere near their female family members.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:04 PM
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I just listened to an interview by one of the writers saying that it was inspired by at least two different knifings by boys in different ends of the English island.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:02 PM
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‘People on the left want it to be’ Really? Are the people on the left in the room with us now?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 10:59 PM
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So, a couple of decades ago I hit a boyfriend in what I thought was a ‘playful’ way, and he joking/not joking said, ‘Help, help, domestic abuse!’ And it shocked me to the core. I’ve never hit anyone since. I was basically taught that me hitting someone wouldn’t actually hurt them, that it was basically like a kitten threatening to hurt you. But the reality is that a grown human woman generally weighs as much as at least 30 kittens, and 30 kittens absolutely could cause some damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:33 PM
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I’d walk alone a fuckton more. Walk at night, hike in the woods, go backpacking and camping… Basically, everything that women say they would do ‘if all men disappeared for a day.’
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:50 PM
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Everyone is entitled to safety, in the sense that it is legal for them or others to use violence to protect themselves. Women are not different in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 04:58 AM
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I see testimonies like this from dudes and it is so diametrically opposed to my experience with myself and with my woman friends that I have to think it’s either made up, or there’s some subset of the population that is effectively another species.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:12 PM
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I have never heard a single ‘body positive’ woman say that it was mens’ fault that they went on a shooting spree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:19 AM
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They’re not off the market, they’re just asking for a price that makes selling their limited fuel supply worth the independence, serenity, and freedom that they’ll lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:18 AM
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In natural disasters where areas are cut off from sources of trade, gas may indeed get up to $50/gallon (or more) because it’s extremely difficult to bring in and/or the people selling will have to go without fuel for themselves if they sell some to you. Putting artificial price caps on will only mean that it’s not profitable to bring fuel in, and/or it’s not worth it for those who have fuel to sell it to you. The market is the market, and yes, that is a tautology, but it’s also relevant because…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:15 AM
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You’re the one who brought the focus down to makeup, not me. I was responding to your entire set of claims about what the ‘average woman’ is like.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 04:44 AM
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The rest of the post is just as delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 02:28 PM
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The average woman wears makeup sometimes, but not lashes, etc and definitely not makeup to the degree you’re implying. We do not have the fucking time for all of that. You’re literally talking instagram/trophy wife levels of appearance management- women whose careers are literally based on their looks- and assuming that’s ’all women or ‘average women’ because those are the ones you notice. Most of us roll out of bed, get dressed, make coffee, walk the dog, and go to work. We do not have the fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 06:27 AM
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No, the ‘average woman’ does not. Just for starters, the ‘average American woman’ is 40 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 06:34 PM
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That doesn’t take a lot of skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 07:55 AM
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There was a ticktock that went around a while ago where some dude was showing the difference between splitting with an axe vs. a maul, and it was ridiculously unintentionally sexy, and the comments were all like, ‘well, I just got pregnant😂.’ So, sure, it can be very sexy. But so can dancing, or running warmups, or calligraphy, or whatever. I guess a lot of guys saw the ‘chopping wood’ part and missed the ‘friendly, open, helpful, attractive guy doing something he’s obviously really good at’ par…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 05:59 AM
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There’s a balance. There has to be some amount of sexual attraction, but not so much that you seem like you are not under your own control and not so much that you can’t see the prospective partner as a human being.
/r/ExRedPill31/03/25 10:05 PM
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These guys thinking that instagram models represent all, or even a majority, of women😂 Those are the only ones terps care about, so I guess it makes sense in that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:46 PM
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And pre-cast with the type of person who is likely to create drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:06 AM
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With all due respect, basing any part of your worldview on “reality” television is a fool’s errand. It’s all scripted, and it’s all there to support pre-existing, comforting worldviews using a cast drawn from a very selective group of people in a very narrow geographic area.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:05 AM
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Magazine surveys are kind of the paradigmatic ‘not representative of the population’ survey. I sincerely hope the actual numbers are not that high. I also wonder what the numbers are of men who ‘stealth’ women, ‘accidentally’ cum in the wrong place, and/or sabotage condoms. I agree with you that lying about, or sabotaging, birth control is borderline evil. No one should be forced to have a child they don’t want, or have a child with a person they don’t want to parent with. Lying about wanting ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:46 PM
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lol what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 10:30 PM
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There has never been a society that paid parents the equivalent of what they lose, to have children. There have been societies that paid people to have children, but they’ve never made parents whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:46 AM
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FWIW, I feel like my marriage benefits me greatly. We don’t have kids, which is huge, and we’re pretty copacetic in terms of values and goals- but we’re abut equally likely to cook, and it’s really fantastic to occasionally have another person at home (or wherever) to help with forgotten issues or help with tasks that have piled up abruptly. Not to mention the DINK phenomenon. I get exasperated with him sometimes, and he gets exasperated with me sometimes, but overall we get along really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:44 AM
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Men are much more likely to leave a woman who gets cancer or some other chronic, serious diagnosis, than vice-versa. Men also move on if their female partner dies. Women and children are better off if their husband/father stays with them than if he sacrifices himself. Basically everything you wrote is an evo-psych just-so story.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 07:09 AM
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It basically says that women are incapable of love wile teaching men to lie to, manipulate, and avoid actual love with women.
/r/ExRedPill26/03/25 10:56 AM
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Super creepy. No argument. Nothing but ad-homs. Pathetic. This is boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 08:05 PM
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It’s just a survey of college students, but still. That’s awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:00 PM
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Wow, now you want to intervene on my husband’s and my sex life? What a creep. Mind your own business.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:57 PM
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I’m married. Nice attempt to attack me personally, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 12:08 AM
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Not at all, to the extent that those words alone mean anything. But among the fundamental tenets of terp philosophy is the idea that women are incapable of actual love or loyalty, and any woman who believes that has been abused and gaslit into self-hatred. In addition, the subtext implication that terps are ‘the best men’ is just irrational. Terps, almost by definition, are men who have been unsuccessful at getting or maintaining relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 07:35 PM
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Man: ‘men are better at communicating than women.’ Same man: (leaps to completely irrational, hysterical extremes, including on topics that weren’t even remotely brought up, when slightly challenged about his ability to read obvious body language).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 07:31 PM
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Some men: ‘I’ll fuck anything that moves, therefore women have an easier time getting relationships.’ Subtext: ‘the only point of a relationship is sex.’ Same dudes: ‘why doesn’t anyone want a relationship with me!?’
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 07:29 PM
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IDK about them, but I believe that. A lot of men openly admit to lying to women to get into their pants, and dishonesty and manipulation is a huge part of terp practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:21 AM
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‘Red pill women’ is self-hatred, pure and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:19 AM
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(Preemptively accuses opponents of ad-hominems) (Proceeds to argue almost exclusively in as-hominems).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:18 AM
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Looooot of projection in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:17 AM
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To all the dudes expressing doubt: studies have shown that a woman speaking like 1/3 of the time is seen by men as her ‘dominating’ the conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:16 AM
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There are absolutely memes and fiction about men not communicating, your ignorance of same notwithstanding. Also, a dude not gaf about reading a woman’s facial expressions, or other nonverbal communications, != that woman being deceitful or non-communicative.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:06 AM
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‘No strings sex’ != ‘dating.’
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:01 AM
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Same/same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:00 AM
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snort There is a large subset of men who find it morally acceptable to lie to a woman to get into her pants, or even just to get out of a discussion. The fact that men can’t be bothered to read the clear emotions on women’s faces does not make women more deceitful than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:00 AM
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Both men and women want the best possible partner they can get, including one who is superior to them if possible, but different people prioritize different metrics. Tradcons prioritize male wealth and female youth/health/beauty, especially older generations. Younger generations prioritize other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 10:33 PM
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There’s a weird mix of humanity and ‘girls bad’ in your post. Most of it is true, but this idea that women only have nefarious reasons for anything is disappointing in the context of the rest of it. The real secret is that men and women are very, very similar. If women were raised like men are raised, we’d be mostly just like men; if men were raised the way women are raised, they’d be mostly just like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 05:08 PM
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So you’re saying…what? Women should pity-fuck autists as a kind of sexual affirmative action?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 01:45 AM
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There was no question. Your response was basically, ‘nuh-uh, you’re shallow!’ That does not require a response. There is no culture on the planet that does not care about hygiene and self-maintenance. Unless you have a better argument than a pure assertion of denial, this argument is not worth pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 01:02 AM
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Tell me you’re autistic without telling me. You don’t have to care about these things, but you do have to accept that most of humanity does, and that you’re not better than everyone else for it. If you want to have relationships with those people, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:35 PM
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Basic hygeine is not ‘shallow.’
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 12:08 AM
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There are plenty of women who’ve had kids by that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:24 AM
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Technically correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 09:26 PM
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Argument from personal incredulity!= ‘the room.’
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 09:26 PM
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Personal experience of myself and pretty much all women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 09:13 PM
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On retrospect, it probably has to do with the loss and remodeling of brain mass that accompanies pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 09:12 PM
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80% of men think that cargo shorts and a wrinkled tshirt that doesn’t smell too bad are acceptable date wear.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 07:06 PM
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Classic ad-hominem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 07:46 PM
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The current moron in chief is the opposite of intelligent, measured, steadfast, or unemotional. He is a paragon of vice, including stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 07:11 PM
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Why would younger women have an advantage that older generations do not? That doesn’t make any sense
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 07:06 PM
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That does not contradict what I just said. More men are geniuses, and more men are idiots. It also does not acknowledge that ‘genius’ is not a necessary, or even the most helpful, qualification to get one elected to office in a democracy, much less into other positions of power, nor does it acknowledge that female geniuses (eg, Marilyn Vos Savant) do exist, just in smaller numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 06:26 PM
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That does not jibe with everything I have ever heard on the topic, nor with my personal experience. For example: https://igorjovanovic.com/iq-intelligence-men-vs-women/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 06:24 PM
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Women and men have the same statistical average IQ; women have lower statistical variability, meaning that there are both more male than female geniuses, and more male than female idiots. As for ‘swayed by emotion,’ making that claim with the current cantaloupe in office is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 04:56 AM
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‘Wanting sex with no other commitment’ != ‘loving unconditionally.’
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:40 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 01:32 AM
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It has happened to every single woman I know that she was creeped on by men her father’s age before the age of 18. It does not follow that all men are pedophiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:59 PM
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1)slovenly losing interest due to repeated bad behavior isn’t what the ick is. 2)post hoc error. The sun does not rise because the rooster crowed first, and OP did not lose interest because he cried first.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 07:24 PM
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I’m sure it’s true that some women will get the ick from that. Everyone’s an individual, and we all get ick from different things. It’s not true that any or all women would get the ick from men opening up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 07:13 PM
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Tate and dread are absolutely terp, manosphere things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 07:09 PM
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Same reason men who claim to want ‘good women’ go for gold diggers, home breakers, crazy bitches, and trophy wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 02:14 AM
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Except that it’s not. You can get into finance with a bachelor’s degree. The reason they make a lot of money is that they’re in jobs whose entire, pure razon d’etre is to make money. Logging and crab fishing are, iirc, the two most dangerous jobs in the United States. My cousin was killed when a piece of logging equipment collapsed on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 02:01 AM
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That was well-documented an thorough. Terps will be in here accusing your sources of bias, and will completely forget about it in a couple of weeks. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 06:07 AM
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I didn’t say ‘getting a cold.’ I said, ‘constantly sick.’ Jobs are not compensated based on danger. If they were, loggers and crab fishers would be the highest paid professionals in America, not investment bankers who basically do electronic gambling with OPM.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:06 PM
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Misogyny is only a tiny fraction of toxic masculinity. But sure, you don’t like the term. That’s fine. Can you agree that feeling the need to perform masculinity, regardless of what one actually likes or how one actually feels, is bad in sum for men? That it’s bad for men to feel like they cannot admit any weakness, bad for them to feel like they can’t seek help, medical or otherwise? That the cult of total independence is making Americans in general, and men especially, lonely and weaker as ind…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 08:29 AM
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Tell that to the men spreading the meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:05 AM
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Re-read what you said, and my response to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:05 AM
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We all have downtimes. This was 2 minutes of fun in a pre-op ambulatory surgery department. Cool your jets there, Sandra Dee. As for why toxic masculinity makes men feel emasculated, part of the necessary performance of toxic masculinity requires never acknowledging that one is sick or weak, and especially never acknowledging, much less asking for or accepting, that one needs help. Much less help from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:04 AM
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Sometimes the criteria for ‘hard to find’ is ‘sociopathic enough to not GAF how the company’s actions in pursuit of financial gain affect the customers, employees, and world at large.’ I disagree that construction is that much more dangerous than teaching. A construction worker could have an industrial injury, but people who work with kids are basically constantly sick, sometimes severely so. And the reason that substitutes are often unqualified is that a lot of schools are treated as basically …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:11 AM
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And you’ve - what- changed one diaper? None? Lost zero nights of sleep? Had zero kids vomit all over you, poop on your carpets, rhapsodize about something completely u interesting for 4 hours and whine if you’re not paying attention…day after day after day? Never had to chase one into the street to keep it from getting squashed? Roofing is immediately uncomfortable, but long-term pleasant. You get to do real, good, hands-on work that you can take pride in, with other adults, that will last for d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:08 AM
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Most of us don’t. Likewise, we don’t feel like single childless women are obligated to date single dads.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:47 PM
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Most straight women do not have the majority of their expenses covered by a male partner. What fucking world do you live in? And yes, stably coupled people are more financially secure because that’s part of what stable coupling does, regardless of the genders involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:42 AM
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Toxic masculinity is a toxic gender role, and yes, some men absolutely feel emasculated when seeking medical care. Some of them are absolute fucking jackasses in the hospital because of it. Others roll with it, and everyone loves them because of it. I’ve seen young nurses giggling and happily perching in the knee of a 90-something day surgery patient, because he was just the most charming, easy to get along with, wonderful patient, and then there are men who sneer, insult, and threaten to kill t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:51 AM
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snort ‘The world isn’t fair, so it’s ok for me to by a sociopath.’
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:45 AM
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You think working out makes up for not wiping your own ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:44 AM
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Yes. I’m not currently an athlete, but I have been one in the past; erging until we vomited was not uncommon in crew, and crying in the dressing room was not uncommon in aikido. And still, I did those things because I enjoyed them. They were fun. And they were a fuckton easier than organic chemistry or dealing with dying patients.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:27 AM
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Is vs ought
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:24 AM
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Given that I was about 12 at the time, no: I did not do everything involved in the roofing. It was the adults who did 90% of it, but the swarm of cousins helping to pull the old roof off didn’t hurt the process. It’s easy to find other sources for the claim I made earlier; I chose a popular press article because most people read at the popular press level, but honestly manosphere people have a tendency to ad-hom anything they disagree with, and since you seem not to be an exception to that, I’m …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:24 AM
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Women are penalized in the workplace for asking for raises, both by their bosses and by others. Edit: changed the source, because the first link was too messy. As for ‘getting family members to watch the kids,’ why is it acceptable to ask a family member to watch kids for free, but not to help re-roof a house? I’ve worked on the latter; it really was not that difficult. Hot, physical labor, to be sure, but not complicated and done in a short period of time with all of the guys and teens in the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:53 AM
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That’s just not the case. You might have 500 men who want to have no-strings sex with you, though, which is something that most women don’t want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:26 PM
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There is a lot of disagreement on ‘anyone can do it’ 😂 The limit based on how much women earn doing other work makes sense, as does the fact that women are socially penalized for not being ‘nice,’ eg, asking for higher pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:25 PM
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When women move into a field, the relative compensation decreases. When men move into a field, the relative compensation increases.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:19 PM
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When women move into a field, they pay in that field goes down. When men move into a field, the pay in that field goes up. Child care is extremely, immediately needed and necessary for capitalism in this country to work. It is notoriously difficult to get a kid into a good preschool, and yet the workers in these preschools are still underpaid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:18 PM
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1)Women who are naturally beautiful at least than 1% of the population. That’s why fashion models bring in the big bucks, just like professional athletes. 2)applying makeup well, and knowing what looks good on one’s face, is a learned skill. I know that partly because it’s a skill I do not have. It takes practice and learning, and it’s often uncomfortable to greater or lesser degrees. 3)women’s high fashion is often uncomfortable to crippling over time. My grandmother had Barbie feet, permanentl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:38 PM
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Men put way more effort into looking good than women do. Hahahhahahhahaahhahahhahahahahhahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:27 PM
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Women don’t pursue lower-paying careers; the careers that women pursue are socially devalued and more poorly compensated. Raising and teaching young children is not less valuable to society than building houses or replacing roofs, but daycare workers and kindergarten teachers make less per hour than construction workers or roofers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:26 PM
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This is a big part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:23 PM
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Some of them do. Some of them are. My brother is a super involved dad, and he has 50% custody of his daughters and there was a 50% division of assets in his divorce. He didn’t realize how much work the kids were before the divorce, though, and both he and his ex had affairs. His ex also had anger management problems. The men who don’t do that were raised not to, by parents and in a culture of ‘men are men and women are women,’ and often men are considered emasculated if they do anything ‘feminin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:22 PM
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This At a bare minimum, I would insist on addenda requiring condoms, requiring either party (if positive for any STIs and withholding that information deliberately) to be responsible for the medical treatment of the other party if they acquire an STI, for either party to be responsible for 1/2 of the cost of an abortion, should an accidental pregnancy occur, prohibiting strangulation, S&M, anal, or any further sexual activity after the utterance of the words ‘no’ or ‘stop.’
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 06:55 AM
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There are manospherians actively saying that a man wiping his own ass after he poops is gay, and that shitstains on underwear are the sign of a ‘real man.’ I kid you not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:29 PM
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It’s not that we want a guy who’s ’not into us,’ because a guy who’s super into you is sort of a prerequisite for good sex. But it’s that he doesn’t humiliate himself or lose his own self-respect to get into your good graces. As with everything else, there is a balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:18 PM
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Yeahhhh no. But sure. IDC enough to argue with you, so if you want to keep it up, you’ll get the last word.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:42 PM
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1)You have a really delusional view of the life the average woman leads and how she gets her money. 2)Some ‘passport bros’ are sincerely a step up from the men a woman could date in her home country- if she is extremely poor, then a career as a western guy’s trophy wife might be enough of a step up to make an LBH worth it. If her family or community is extremely patriarchal, then a guy who is reactionary by western standards can be a white knight to her. The couple can make a happy family that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:58 AM
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Quote: “Thing is, there’s an almost equal number of men and women in the world. Allowing for same sex and a proportion of people not wanting to date, there’s still probably roughly equal numbers of singles in most urban areas.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 06:20 AM
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no single thing guarantees being sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 01:13 AM
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I've always found that men dancing (well) is incredibly physically sexy, and also men running together in a group (men having strong friendships is sexy to me, so maybe the latter is an extension of that). I know I'm not alone in that, because I once found myself in a group of about 5-6 women who had been caught up watching the men's soccer team at my university warming up by running around the field together. Doing anything well, that took skill and practice to learn. Standing up straight (not …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 01:07 AM
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You said that women are more selective, but started with the claim that there are roughly equal numbers of men and women looking. I don’t think that there are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 05:49 PM
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Terps are grown men with the toddler’s concept of adulthood, that they should be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want, to whomever they want. Girls are outperforming men in school. Young women are out performing men at work. They’re outearning men until they have kids, at which point their earnings crash because they’re the one taking responsibility for 90% of the child care even in most committed relationships. The reason they’re doing these things is because, at some point, boys a…
/r/ExRedPill16/02/25 06:29 PM
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It explains why there are more men than women looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:57 PM
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In reverse order: Snowden fled to Russia to avoid investigation and probable imprisonment for *espionage.* I'm talking about Jamal Khashoggi, who was literally *dismembered alive* in a Saudi *embassy* for the 'crime' of saying mean things about MBS. And yes, bombing weddings is bad. That does not make torturing someone to death, on purpose, less bad. As for what the murderous driver has to do with anything, it's that Saudi won't extradite a man who literally murdered a young woman. The story I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:41 PM
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Men almost never ‘simply state their preference.’
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:54 PM
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You might try addressing what she actually said, rather than the straw man that you wish she had said.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:52 PM
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Idk. I’ve heard first-hand accounts from travelers who were assaulted and then charged when they reported it, rather than defended, and there was a Saudi national who killed a woman by driving recklessly with his car in my city; he fled to the airport, and was never sent back to face justice for vehicular homicide. And there’s also, of course, the fact that MBS had a reporter dismembered alive in an embassy for criticizing him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 02:25 PM
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There is a lot of shit they class as ‘infidelity’ instead of ‘rape’ or ‘sexual assault.’ Would you report a rape if it meant you’d be charged with infidelity, unless there were 3 (male) witnesses who would testify that you weren’t willing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 08:42 AM
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The abortion rate would increase slightly, at least where it’s legal. Probably not a bad thing, but definitely a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:54 AM
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They make up the minority of people paying child support because the way make up the majority of people doing most of the child care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:52 AM
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Are they allowed to drive alone? Allowed to leave the country alone? Allowed to do anything in public, in mixed company, unsupervised?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:51 AM
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Saudi Arabia also claims that there is no rape, no SA, and no DV. And the only ‘problem with young people’ is the young women who try to flee the country, and are brought back and imprisoned in insane asylums by their families.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:49 AM
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Sounds kind of like… marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:47 AM
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1)men don’t consider themselves monogamous/nailed down in a relationship until long after the woman does, so there are more men open to dating than women. 2)more old men look to date young women than the converse. 3)more married men than women cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:35 AM
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People who use the OKC data to argue for “female hypergamy” always conveniently leave out the part that the same data shows women messaging median men more and males messaging high-tier women more, regardless of stated ranking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:33 AM
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https://news.gallup.com/poll/609914/women-become-liberal-men-mostly-stable.aspx https://www.americansurveycenter.org/newsletter/are-conservative-men-struggling-to-get-dates/ https://theconversation.com/the-right-stuff-the-new-conservative-dating-app-which-has-unsurprisingly-failed-to-attract-women-192012 https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/04/24/most-democrats-who-are-looking-for-a-relationship-would-not-consider-dating-a-trump-voter/ https://www.newsweek.com/majority-women-wont-date-tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:25 AM
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There are a lot more very liberal women than very conservative women, and somewhat more conservative men than liberal men, and conservative men tend to think that physical hotness is more important than philosophical compatibility, so sheer statistics will have conservative men pursuing liberal and very liberal women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 03:31 AM
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If it comes down to it, testimony: other parents from the park saying that the dad was always the one with the kid. The pediatrician saying it was always the dad at appointments. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 10:01 PM
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And vice-versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:17 PM
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(Posts openly contemptuous, misogynistic screed) ‘Women don’t want me because I’m short/ugly.’
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:16 PM
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It’s what OP’s article said.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:12 PM
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I said ‘primary parent’ rather than ‘mother’ because I agree that sometimes it’s the dad. And yeah, people should be treated the same for doing the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:11 PM
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Man who doesn’t parent but thinks men should get custody anyway: ‘Spending time with your own kid is as hard as buying a house without money.’
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:09 PM
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Child support/ spousal support awarded generally are less of a proportion of a man’s income than what he contributed to the family prior to the divorce, so his personal disposable income increases.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:00 PM
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Why do you think it’s unfair for child services to be focused on the parent who is the primary caregiver for the child/children? And there’s an easy solution for men if they think so: spend equal time/equal career sacrifice on the kids during the marriage, and then ask for 50/50 custody after divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:58 PM
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Sooo basically the same ‘proven false accusation’ rate as other crimes. Quelle surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:51 AM
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It’s pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:28 AM
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My husband and I both ignore Valentine’s Day. We hate performative displays. Neither of us will get the other anything. On the rare occasions where we have disagreements, the person who cares the most about the topic usually ends up getting the last word.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:41 PM
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I occasionally convince myself, for half a minute, that most of the men on this forum are the deliberately crazy sock puppets of normal men, to convince women of how great they have ot when they get someone sane.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:06 AM
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FWIW, a lot of the guys on social media who say that they’re “getting” all of those women are hiring models to pose with them on someone else’s car. Someone who sleeps around that much is rarer than a supermodel.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:09 PM
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The Victoria’s Secret models aren’t even what women look like. Have you ever watched one of those ‘before and after’ retouching videos?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:07 PM
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There’s definitely an impact of enculturation. In some places, women are dramatically less socially dominant as a class, and they definitely show more of the traits associated with social submission more than men do. Likewise, men show more of the traits associated with social dominance in those groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:59 AM
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Women and men are not that different. If you don’t like men, chances are you will also not like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 10:10 PM
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Party girls are not a majority of women, but sure. If your post is exclusive to the nightclub/bar type, it makes more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 08:00 PM
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1)you’re assuming that she likes casual sex and dating. Most of the women I know hate/d dating. 2)you’re assuming her friends are all single. 3)you’re assuming that you’re competing with other men; you’re far more likely to be competing with her solitude and peace. 4)you’re assuming that she doesn’t want to share locations so that she can see other men; it’s more likely that she doesn’t want to because either she or one of her friends has been stalked in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 07:09 PM
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OP didn’t even mention hair loss
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:51 PM
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‘Men should have the emotional self-regulatory capacity of a functioning adult’ !=. ‘Women can’t handle man’s emotions. ‘
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 02:50 PM
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She’s happy alone. Will she be happier with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 03:28 AM
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Until the rest of the country revolts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:19 PM
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So… only people with bachelor’s degrees? Only people with STEM bachelor’s degrees? If the latter, you’re going to end up with a pretty atheist government (speaking as a biology grad, the most atheistic of the sciences). If the former, you’re going to end up with an atheistic, extremely liberal government.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:30 AM
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That’s literally what you said. If it’s a red herring , you’re the one who threw it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 11:40 PM
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…what? You’re saying that men who attack other men can’t be held accountable for their own actions. It’s bullshit. It’s like you’re basing your entire worldview on some poorly-written 70’s drama rather than real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 10:42 PM
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Yeah not so much. You’re basically saying that men have no agency. You’d have a better point if you were talking about a trained attack dog given a command, but I hold men to higher standards than dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:33 PM
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There's definitely a disney/wedding industrial complex that tells young girls that their wedding is/should be the happiest day of their life, and that everything will be 'happily ever after' if they get that right. The more they accept that trope, the more likely they are to want a 'perfect' wedding, and the more likely they are to hit the brick wall of reality face-first. I think people who elope have more realistic expectation about relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:21 AM
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What I’m thinking when I hear this story, is that the women suddenly have to start thinking, ‘oh, shit, another het guy who’s pretending to be my friend in order to get into my pants.’ I have had het guy friends who reassured me, over and over, that they were not trying to get into my pants- who were absolutely trying to get into my pants. At some point, we stop believing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:49 AM
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Yes, that’s why women shooting or stabbing men who turn them down happens semi-regularly. Oh, wait….
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:45 AM
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People who marry young are waaaay more likely to divorce than those who marry later.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 07:06 PM
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OP is not blaming all men for everything. Re-read what they said.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:57 PM
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Being on a pedestal = ‘you can’t move, or you’ll fall off the pedestal.’ Love bombing = ‘you can do no wrong.’
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:32 PM
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TL,DR: OP has never actually asked a woman what they dislike about dating apps, and simply applied his existing terp world view to speculation about that topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:35 AM
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I think they’re as likely, if not more likely, to have extra-pair sex, but they’re more likely to do so above the board, with a partner who is also open.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:30 PM
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Being poly/open is not the same thing as cheating, and I say that as someone who is naturally monogamous. I made it clear when I was dating my now-husband that I was monogamous and that I was looking for someone who was also monogamous, because I did not want to have that conversation later. The problem is when you get poly people who are trying to be conservative, who think that everyone is actually poly but most are just better at either self-control or hiding their affairs. They’re going to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:49 PM
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Liberal women probably have more sexual partners, and are probably more likely to be open to ‘ethical non-monogamy’ or poly relationships, but that’s not the same as cheating. I strongly doubt that a liberal woman in a committed, monogamous relationship is more likely to cheat than a conservative woman in the same type of relationship, because liberalism takes a harder line against non-consent (ie, violating your partner’s trust) and lying. Conservatives, especially Christians, have the whole ‘J…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:41 PM
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Citation needed
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:37 PM
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I was going to write something snarky, but this is a way better response in both likely effectiveness and in humanity.
/r/ExRedPill14/01/25 06:35 PM
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Nah, you’re right to a large extent. Kids just aren’t that fulfilling for most people, especially with the helicopter parenting and investment required nowadays, and people just don’t want to do it. There are people who find taking care of kids the most fulfilling and wonderful thing in their lives, and if there’s any genetic component to that at all, those genes are going to swiftly out-populate other alleles in the population. In a few generations, we’ll be back to worrying about over-populati…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:01 PM
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Feminism is the radical belief that women are people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 07:17 AM
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Paragraph 2 of the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 02:37 PM
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Statistically, after divorce, women suffer financially and men suffer emotionally. Maybe offer both financial and medical help to both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:06 PM
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I’m not that person. But it’s probably safe to say that all men should seek therapy after divorce and be screened for suicidal ideation and/or violent rage against their ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:25 PM
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If he likes kink and she found out she doesn’t the hard way, then they’re not sexually compatible and he should look for a woman who likes kink. You’re basing your question off of the assumption that ‘wild and crazy sex’ is ‘better sex,’ but it’s not. It’s a flavor. Not everyone likes it. If the thought of never ‘getting’ to try bondage, or whatever, bothers you that much, find a woman who likes bondage, or who is ok with exploring it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:23 PM
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“His”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:11 AM
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All women should absolutely be screened for postpartum depression in the year(s?) after birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:09 AM
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1)he apparently groomed her. 2)he’s the one who filed for divorce. 3)sociopaths are very good at fooling people, at least in the short term. It’s part of the diagnosis. 4)people should be able to leave contracts that they have accidentally entered into with sociopaths. 5)when people escape said contracts, they will be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:08 AM
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The case discussed by OP has numerous me commenting that the dude was justified in shooting her because (they erroneously think) she filed for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:05 AM
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Did you miss the part where he’s the one who filed?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:03 AM
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If you want that life, find yourself a high-driving surgeon or ED doc and be a SAHH.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 02:02 AM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:28 AM
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In what way? It seemed pretty clear to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:42 AM
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You’re not entirely wrong. There is a LOT that goes into running a house well, especially if a couple is concerned about things like saving money on groceries and fresh, homemade, healthy food. A lot of that goes by the wayside when both people are working, because they just don’t have the time or energy, and knowing that something needs to be done but not having the time and energy to do it is stressful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:40 AM
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Yet another thread where men project their own issues onto women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 07:48 AM
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Right, just like men want a woman who works outside the home but also does 95% of the home and child care, who is a virgin but also a rabbit in the bed, a perfect cook and also skinny, ‘takes care of herself’ but not in a way that requires any actual time or income, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 07:04 AM
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Tradcon men: ‘I want a SAHM.’ Also tradcon men: ‘women who are concerned about how much a man makes are unrealistic and/or gold diggers.’ ——- Tradcon men: ‘taking care of a home and a family are a woman’s true calling, and just as valid as paid work.’ Also tradcon men: ‘the money I earn is MY money, and my wife should be grateful for the cushy life I generously gift to her. Also, if she asks for a divorce for any reason, she deserves no alimony and no child support.’ Tradcon men: the woman is na…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 05:54 AM
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Men look their best between 18-30 too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 05:03 AM
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Only for his own behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 08:49 PM
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Are you dense? I’m not talking about blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:48 PM
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On the contrary. These women are getting sterilized so that they can ‘drive’ as much as they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:44 AM
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You’re missing the point. A gold digger is a woman who only cares about a man’s money. Women with their own careers can date men for reasons other than desperation for money. Therefore, a man who is worried about gold diggers should look for women with their own careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:51 PM
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Getting sterilized when you don’t want children, and the other options are no longer 100%, is an overreaction? Isn’t this what the PL people wanted? They’re taking responsibility in a way that involves zero zefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:14 PM
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Yes and no- I am way out of my depth here, but apparently in some states it’s impossible to next-to-impossible to get referenda on the ballot; in addition, a lot of states, and especially red states, are gerrymandered into single-party states, which allows/ causes their legislatures to be controlled by the most radical parts of their parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 08:53 AM
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AFAIK every red state in which abortion was restricted or outlawed, and which had a referendum put to the vote to allow abortion, had that referendum pass or at least receive a majority of the votes. Florida’s got like 60% approval, even though that wasn’t enough to pass it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 08:20 AM
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Women are more content alone than men are. If the downside is less bad, the upside has to be relatively better for it to win.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:03 AM
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What women are choosing to do is get themselves sterilized.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:58 AM
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Yes, it was so bad that the SCOTUS upheld it like half a dozen times in different rulings.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:57 AM
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A strong majority of people favor abortion rights even in deeply red states, even among Republicans. The problem is gerrymandered states that favor ultra-reactionary state candidates in many of these states.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:57 AM
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Hard no for about 99% of the guys on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 07:38 AM
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Solution: dads, parent your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 07:08 AM
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I always went Dutch, but I’m a ‘strident feminist’ who ‘values my career more than having kids,’ so there you go. If you want a tradcon woman, or at least one who will take the financial hit of being the primary caretaker of your children, you have to demonstrate that you can backstop her finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 08:21 PM
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From the perspective of a lot of men, especially terps. There are a LOT of men who do not see women as real people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 08:19 PM
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LOL you’re one of those who fantasize about apocalypse😂 Women are humans. We’re just smaller ones. We’re just as ruthless and savage, and as civilized, as any other humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:14 PM
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There is capitalism, and there is capitalism. What we have is the worst form of capitalism, parasitic capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:46 AM
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Firstly, there are a lot of stable, average men in LTRs in their 20’s, and a lot of women in relationships with them. Most women do want a stable LTR. Most of the sex that is had in the 20’s, is in the context of LTRs. But that’s doesn’t = ‘permanent’ or ‘marriage.’ Most people have a couple of failed LTRs before they find one that sticks: they’re a slob, or the other person is a slob, or they’re abusive, or the other person is, or they’re too independent, or too clingy, or the other person is. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:42 AM
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No, it really is not. That’s why dating apps are 90% men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:01 AM
1

That’s such a human thing to say. Like you actually want real human connection or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:00 AM
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High quality is determined by nature, not the human patriarchy. The person that dies with the most grandkids is definitionally the most fit, regardless of whether they possess the qualities that you, personally, find the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:50 AM
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Hahahhahahhahha It is exactly the same fucking thing. Women want the most attractive man they can get, regardless of their own status. Men want the most attractive women they can get, regardless of their own status. The woman only difference is that a woman would rather be alone than be with a man she’s not attracted to, and a man will fuck a donkey if he can’t get a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:52 PM
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For men to have as many dating options as women, you’d have to have women being as horny as men, for as long as men, and women being as into pursuing extra-marital affairs as men. So you’ll have young men open a dating app and have a ton of messages from women wanting to sleep with him: 10-20 will be from married women, 40-80 from women at least 1 decade older than him, 40-60 from skeezy, dirty, ill-groomed women their own age, with disgusting political views (despite that being a hard rule-out …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:26 PM
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Yes, they absolutely do. When a man has a fetus inside his body, he can choose to abort it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:46 PM
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the presumption that 'women not being available to high-status men' and 'women will look for love and compatibility in their 20's' means that 'low to middle status men will be able to sleep with as many women as they want' is laughable. Also, be consistent: if you call it hypergamy when a woman wants a man above her own status, call it the same thing when a man wants a woman above his own status. *Everyone* wants the best partner they can get, regardless of which criteria are most important to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:45 PM
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Men *already do* have the same right to abortion as women when they have a z/e/f inside their own body. Just to be clear wrt. using the parents' bodies, you think that a kid should have the right to use either parent's body for life support until the age of 18?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:38 PM
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Oh! Well, at least you’re slightly less hypocritical than most PLs. Most of y’all think that a child’s right to occupy and use its parents’ bodies for life support should end at birth. Good on you for at least continuing that stance- but I’m curious. Do you think it should extend through to adulthood? Should a middle-aged, alcoholic child have the right to force their parent to donate a lobe of their liver?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:09 PM
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IDK about other women, but birth control made me uninterested in men and sex altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:03 PM
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I’d say it was the opposite with me. I was more likely to get crushes on the tv stereotypes when I was younger, less so with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:24 PM
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I have the context of my father skipping town and breaking contact with his children, after his wife divorced him for giving her an STI from an affair.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:10 AM
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snort that might hurt my feelings, if I gave a flying duck about some random internet dude’s opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:49 AM
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Nope. She never said a word against him to me, except for a factual recitation of the events.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:44 AM
1

lipopolysaccharide?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:49 AM
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My father skipped town to the far side of the country and made zero contact until after my brother and I were both 18, does that count?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:47 AM
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Abortion isn't an 'out.' It's disgusting and painful, even in the best case scenario- and I say that as someone who is 100% pro-choice, *and* as someone who thinks there should be some sort of male opt-out within the 1st trimester.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:45 AM
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that sounds reasonable, if the evidence is sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:38 AM
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Men who get pregnant also have the right to abort, if they live in a pro-choice state.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:25 AM
2

Attractiveness has been shown to affect how affectionate parents are with infants. It's in *everything.*
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:18 AM
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As an adoptee, I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:11 AM
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If the fetus is growing in a man's body, the man gets 100% say over whether or not he has an abortion. Very simple. As for 'no one has to support the child...' technically, that is true. However, it leads to dystopian slums full of begging children and orphanages along the lines of Oliver Twist. We have, as a society, mostly agreed that this is Bad. Similarly, the courts favor *the child's primary caretaker,* not *the woman.* If you want courts to favor you in the possible event of a future divo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:08 AM
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They will tolerate it for some amount of time, if there are no kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:45 PM
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‘Cat lady’ is a fun one, because only the dudes saying it think it’s an insult. Most of the women I know react along the lines of, ‘don’t threaten me with a good time.’
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:43 PM
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I think it’s a good thing. I’m now in my 40’s, and TBF smart phones with cameras weren’t around when I was in my 20’s, but I have practically no photos of myself from that age and I kind of don’t know what I looked like. It’s kind of bittersweet. Likewise, historically it’s been women taking family photos a lot of the time, so in family photo albums, quite often the mother just …isn’t there. It’s sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:47 PM
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‘Anything’? You mean like deliberately chasing the most naive person you can find, in order to be with someone who won’t call out your bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:19 PM
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Because a live-in girlfriend with no career has no security and no future.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:16 PM
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Nope. I was on the science Olympiad team, and while I can’t speak for every individual girl, we largely interacted with and had crushes on the guys who were on the team with us. Edit: the chess team was a different group entirely. I don’t know what their gender split was , but Science Olympiad had a pretty even ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 08:02 PM
5

LOL yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 08:00 PM
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It’s not. It’s a jock/cheerleader thing. Nerd girls generally find nerd guys attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 08:20 AM
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you have met the Buddha on the road, and should take appropriate action.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 08:16 AM
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Because most women don’t like or want hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:39 PM
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Then don’t date women who go to bars and travel. Date your fellow strivers and science geeks. Oh, but wait, those women aren’t hot because they don’t ‘shallowly’ spend hours every day prepping for the male gaze.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:09 PM
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Literally every male comment in here is proving OP right😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:06 PM
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Literally no stable couple I know has a man who is “completely superior” to the woman. And if that’s the case, go to some rural town or inner city and look for someone with less education and/or less prospects. It won’t last, but terps don’t actually care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:53 PM
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snort men and women are boring and unappealing in similar proportions. You just happen to like the same things as most of the men you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:50 PM
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This falls pretty clearly under the OP’s description. Women are telling men what they like and don’t like, and this subset of men is saying that has to be wrong because they don’t want to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:49 PM
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Wait, wait, I thought ‘men don’t care about a woman’s accomplishments, only that she’s hot and doesn’t pester him.’
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:44 PM
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On this forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:47 AM
2

That is a charitable take.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:47 PM
1

You haven’t been on this forum long enough, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:45 PM
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Men absolutely do complain about those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:13 AM
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TL, DR: everything is women’s fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:37 AM
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I understand ick. I don’t understand the trampoline thing you mentioned. If you wanted to specifically talk about ick from trampolines, you should have made your original post about trampolines.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:03 AM
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That’s an … odd thing to call ‘desire.’ Do you ‘desire’ your real doll?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:02 AM
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Huh. I honestly don’t know what you’re talking about, but that seems like a silly thing to get ick about. Adults are allowed to have fun, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:11 AM
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It’s not just emasculation or childishness. Sometimes it’s simple, base, disgust. This happens with grooming issues: when a man clearly has not been brushing his teeth, or has a gangrenous foot and can be smelled from 100 feet away, to take some obvious examples of guys who actually hit on me at work when I was younger. Other times it’s creepiness- the sense that a guy wants something from you, and would take it without permission if he could. Think Steven Miller in Trump’s cabinet for a paradig…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:26 AM
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So do you agree, then, that men are so inherently disgusting that a woman allowing herself to be touched by one automatically becomes dirty herself? Because that’s kind of what it sounds like. It seems like a kind of internalized misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:16 AM
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Ok. I don’t do casual sex, and never did, but let me give you an example. A co-worker of mine does not generally date a lot here in town. She’s reasonably attractive, and absolutely could if she wanted. About a year ago, she was traveling to Chicago for an unrelated event and looked up the hottest guys she could find in Chicago, narrowed it down by them seeming reasonably safe, and set up a nice date for herself with a guy who was pretty much exactly her physical type but with whom there was zer…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:14 AM
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I have never partaken in casual sex. Some of my friends have. And they generally do it because they want sex, and they think a guy is hot, and for no other reason- basically, exactly the same reason a man would do casual sex. The personality or desires of the other human, aside from obtaining consent, are irrelevant. It’s basically masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:08 AM
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Women don’t want the hot guys they had flings with. That’s why they were flings.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:07 PM
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The women you meet in their 30’s, including the low n women, see or hear you referring to women as having ‘been run through’ and are disgusted. Iam relatively low n, and I find it degrading and dehumanizing that anyone might think that my number of sexual partners determines my worth. In addition, it betrays an attitude about sex- that sex degrades and devalues a woman, and that men are so inherently filthy that being with a man makes a woman dirty- that women do not want to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:06 PM
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The hyperbole creep is kind of amusing. It started out as ‘women only chase the top 20%,’ then ‘the top 10%,’ and now it’s ’the top 5%.’ I’m guessing someone will claim ‘the top 1%,’ or ‘the top 0.01%,’ fairly soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:00 PM
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You do know that sex is a mutual activity right? Yeah, that is my point. There are a lot of men who do not care, or even act like they know, that the woman they are having sex with is an actual person. They are effectively treating her as an animate blow-up doll, using her body to masturbate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:03 AM
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This. If the scene of the proposal is more important than the man who’s proposing… he’s better off without that woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:44 AM
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This idea that men have that women can ‘get sex at any time,’ is so laughable. Most of us don’t want sex unless it’s with a specific person. Most of us get off alone far better than we do with what you’re talking about. The difference between men and women around sex isn’t that women can get it easier, it’s that most men prefer to masturbate with a woman’s body (her personality is not, apparently, necessary for many men), and most women prefer to masturbate alone. If you want to talk about mutua…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:42 AM
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Works for women sometimes, for similar reasons. Don’t see why it wouldn’t also work for men, sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:42 PM
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Most men spend more of their individual income on the family prior to the divorce than after it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:13 AM
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‘Obesity’ is not generally considered attractive, but I have absolutely seen men call women ‘obese who were only mildly overweight or even normal weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:27 AM
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Women don’t feel entitled to ‘top tier men,’ they just have the choice to be single if they can’t get a man that they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:25 AM
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Citation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 10:10 PM
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Again, no. They’re not doing 50/50 in the early stages, either. They’re only sharing the load when the other person isn’t doing 100% of it by themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:26 AM
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When kids go to school, SAH parents are relieved not because they’re going to sit on the couch and play video games all day, but because they can finally get caught up on all of the other household tasks that they couldn’t get to in the prior 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:36 PM
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If they weren’t sexualized, sure. As it is, I wore sports bras between about 16 and 28 and nothing else, to reduce the attention they bring.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:17 PM
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They’re like 90% of the people on dating apps. I’m guessing that they just want to take the easy way out, without interrupting their video games too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:52 PM
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‘Finding your ass a job’
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:48 PM
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‘You’? I work 40 hours a week. Nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:11 AM
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Back when I was dating, and on dating apps: 50% of men conservative -> automatic no 30% of men either too old or too young ->no Of the remaining 20%, about 50% have no profile or respond with zero-content messages like ‘wassup?’ Or ‘hey’ or whatever -> no personality -> no
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 12:26 AM
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I would not expect the working parent to go 50/50 on chores and kids if there is a SAHP. I would expect them to go 50/50 when they are home, so that the SAHP is only doing 100% of it for 40 hours a week (or however long the working parent is at work).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 01:04 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:09 AM
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There’s a lot of room between full access and a full ban.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 09:29 PM
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‘If we change the definition of rape, the statistics change.’ Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:09 AM
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Makeup doesn’t change the fundamental shape or symmetry of the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 07:11 AM
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“I actually love women” (While posting a screed about how women are horrible and never choose good men, describing women as ‘used game’ and relationships as ‘paying a price’).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 05:59 AM
1

Makeup is still not magic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 05:55 AM
3

Makeup is not as magic as you seem to think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:56 PM
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Newsflash: men can wear makeup too, and historically have done so. Men can dress well, and historically have done so. Men can do all of the things that women do to put their best foot forward, without lying about their beliefs of their likes or their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:12 PM
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TL, DR: OP thinks it’s ok to lie to women for sex, and that women’s concerns about knowing whom they are sharing their body with are ‘annoying,’ ‘unreasonable,’ and ‘unrealistic.’ Yet another terp showing that he does not see women as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:21 AM
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I’m not one of the types to try to feed the bears, no fear. I hike with bells and pepper spray in brown bear country, and dog(s) in black bear country. And dog(s) in human country too, for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:52 AM
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It should be. Most people are not sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 01:32 AM
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Normal people do not abuse parents, children, or pets even if they have conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 01:26 AM
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Sociopaths exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 01:10 AM
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Yes, and?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:56 AM
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I care about the future of humanity, not the perpetuation of the current economic paradigm. However, that’s a red herring. It does not touch the simple claim that people who marry older have lower divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:23 AM
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If you only attract sociopaths, that still suggests that you could use some therapy. It is not reflective of the population in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:17 AM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:15 AM
1

So?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:15 AM
1

Even if you qualify it by ‘divorce’ vs. ‘death,’ mature people are less likely to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:38 PM
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Unconditional love is for your parents, your pets, and your children. It’s not for your spouse. Women do ‘unconditional love’ just fine- just not for you as a potential mate. And if you think that you should have ‘unconditional love’ for your mate, I suggest therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:35 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:32 PM
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When a woman would rather be alone than be with a dude, that’s a woman making a choice that best fits her desires. The fact that she’s ’undesirable’ or ‘average’ herself does not change her desires or make the dude in question suddenly ‘desirable.’
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:30 PM
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Leaders aren’t just the ones who are chosen, they’re the ones who care stridently enough to devote their lives to a cause. People who are content just go about their lives being content. The immoderate ones at the tip of any spear tend to be obsessive and are often kind of unpleasant, but they do the work of pushing the Overton window. Like, most people think ‘all men would be tyrants’ is a bit too far, but look at our good wives who just want to vote.’
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:38 PM
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Men are only half of rape victims if you count prison rape. That is a serious issue, but it is not the same thing. Apples and oranges, again. I don’t speak for all women, but I’ve never seen anyone else answer the question wrt. Interest by the bear/man, or lack thereof. And no, unfortunately, for that 20-30 year window, men are not uninterested in us. It gets better with age and the invisibility granted thereof, but for a while there one cannot step outside without every human with three legs be…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:06 AM
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Comparing apples to apples in this case means comparing all men to all women, not all men (on dating apps) to women in their 20’s and 30’s (on dating apps). As for the bear, most bears do not GAF about humans and would rather just go about their day. If you change the specifics of the man, you also change the specifics of the bear. A black man or a bear looking at you with interest? The man. A white man or a bear looking at you with interest? The man. Etc. Speaking as someone with a bit of wilde…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 12:06 AM
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You are exceptionally bad at reading charts, if that is your takeaway from that article.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:13 PM
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Most men also view most women as unattractive, with women over 50 being virtually invisible to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:12 PM
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1)men also view 80% of women as unattractive, if you look at the full spectrum of their lives and not just the ones on the dating market (most older women are not on dating apps, but men of all ages are on dating apps). Also, ‘bear’ has nothing to do with attraction or lack thereof.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:11 PM
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Men cheat more at all ages past 25ish: https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:04 PM
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…what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:01 PM
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Most women are not attractive to most men, either. Y’all are always saying we ‘hit a wall’ at 30, and assuming a 70-80 year lifespan, and no pedophilia, that’s 1/7 to 1/8 women that men consider attractive.’
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:01 PM
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You do not have to have experienced the exact same thing as someone else to have some empathy for them. You might not understand it completely, but you can have some understanding just through simple logic. ‘Oh, that person’s parent just died. My parents are alive, but I would be very sad if my parent died. That person is probably very sad.’
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:19 AM
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People will bend over backwards for attractive people who ask for help.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:16 AM
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True. But, statistically, people who get married older are less likely to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:49 AM
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Both men and women statistically are less likely to divorce if they 1)get married older and 2) have a smaller age gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:47 AM
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The data do not support that assertion. Also, men being insufferable assholes so that their partner leaves is a thing. Also, women doing the paperwork for a mutually agreed on split is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:47 AM
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I got married in my late 30’s to the only man I’ve ever wanted to marry- and I spent my ‘hot youth’ mostly being voluntarily celibate, not banging anything with 3 legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:52 PM
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Men ‘not initiating divorce’ != ‘men are more loyal.’ 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:49 PM
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You talk about ‘baggage’ when you mean ‘wisdom.’ Statistically, people who marry older have lower divorce rates. You don’t want 20 year old because she ‘has less baggage’ and ‘will bond better,’ because that’s just false. You want a young woman because she’s hotter and easier to manipulate, and then you’ll cry that you ‘never saw it coming’ when she realizes that you neither respect nor care for her as a human being, and divorces you for either that or for the younger flings you start to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:48 PM
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As you said, women are not a monolith. Living on my own with only my pets, especially since I had social outlets when I wanted them, was a quite serene phase of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:49 PM
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Some don’t. I think that most do, or at least a greater proportion that the converse. Our entire media sphere is based on the idea that men are the main characters and women are accessories or orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:35 PM
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When I was in my 20’s, there was often this car on the route I walked to class that had a bumper sticker: “Feminism is the radical concept that women are people.” At the time, I rolled my eyes every time I saw it, thinking it was extremely hyperbolic. Unfortunately, I eventually came to realize that there are a lot of men who do not think of us as people. The Taliban, at the most extreme, but there are less dramatic versions of it. I’m sure most of the men who act like they don’t think women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:55 AM
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I remember seeing a guy go on a rant, years ago, about how this random model in a photo from a magazine was trying to deceive him, personally, with her smile. Like, dude. She’s working. It’s not about you. Women are people, and the fact that you think they’re hot if they breathe, and sometimes if they do not, does not mean that they don’t get to live their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 05:59 PM
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This. It’s not about you. Some of the most attention I ever got from guys was when I was on my way to crew practice… in my uniform. If we want to dress up for our girlfriends or for our boyfriend/husband, everyone else can see us, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 05:57 PM
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Terps: ‘A high N is correlated to more failed relationships!’ Also terps: ‘Extreme age gaps relationships are just fine, and not problematic at all!’
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 10:52 PM
0

Yes, literally, in the traditional sense of the word rather than the modern one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:34 AM
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No, I think that you literally do not know what it means. You did not use it correctly in context.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 03:51 PM
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I think that you do do not know what ‘postmodernist’ actually means.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 08:03 AM
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I can only speak to my own experience, but neither I nor any of my friends would date a conservative (or “not political”) man, when we were dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:39 PM
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I’m not single, but ‘not conservative’ was absolutely a criterion when I was dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:36 AM
2

I mean, women were pretty much not having sex with conservatives already, soooooo…..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:52 AM
10

Red pillers definitionally are low-value, no matter what they look like or how much they have.
/r/ExRedPill12/11/24 02:38 AM
-1

5minutes after reading this…https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/s/5aSyVgGZcX Just go to the front page. Just read the comments.
/r/MensRights12/11/24 02:36 AM
-1

Hundred of posts about how being raped and seeing no justice isn’t as bad as being accused of rape, hundreds of posts claiming that women “cry rape” for sex that they regret, hundreds of posts about how men should be able to have non-consensual sex under x, y, or z conditions and ‘it’s not really rape if…’
/r/MensRights12/11/24 01:13 AM
1

snort You haven’t been here long, if you think that.
/r/MensRights12/11/24 12:53 AM
1

Fine. Pretend that it’s only about abortion. The point still stands.
/r/MensRights12/11/24 12:41 AM
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Fuentes: ‘I can rape you whenever I want, and there’s nothing you can do about it.’ Women: ‘Try it and we’ll fucking kill you. We’re not helpless.’ MRAs: ‘OMG, women are so violent!’
/r/MensRights11/11/24 06:53 AM
-11

Men going on killing sprees got that term ‘banned,’ not feminists.
/r/MensRights11/11/24 06:51 AM
1

It would be nice if it were that simple, wouldn’t it? https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2020/nov/maternal-mortality-maternity-care-us-compared-10-countries
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:54 AM
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He absolutely shot her. There were witnesses. He was found guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:25 PM
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45% isn’t enough to get someone elected.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:22 PM
0

I don’t think it depends at all on who was committing the infidelity, unless they both were. Whomever was unfaithful should be glad to get anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 12:54 AM
5

If a pregnant woman died from a cancer that a non-pregnant woman would have survived, yeah: that’s maternal mortality, not ‘a statistical anomaly.’
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:27 PM
0

There is no economy that impacts a woman more than an unwanted child, permanent disability, or death. ‘Being taken care of’ has nothing to do with it. Jesus fucking Christ, this is a stupid argument even for a forum that specialized in stupid arguments.
/r/MensRights08/11/24 02:21 AM
1

Protect women from what?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 06:34 AM
0

Innocent of what?
/r/MensRights05/11/24 06:46 PM
3

OP is a Russian troll
/r/MensRights05/11/24 06:40 PM
-3

Given that neither woman has started any wars- nor has Biden- that’s a stretch.
/r/MensRights05/11/24 06:39 PM
10

Lesbians do just fine at getting each other off. It’s only straight men who seem to have problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 11:43 PM
3

Wow. I would never stay with someone who abused my family, including pets. That is a strange perspective to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 10:06 PM
2

What if he’s abusive towards your children or pets?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:25 PM
7

You lose alimony if you remarry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:14 PM
11

Women are people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:12 PM
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No, it doesn’t imply anything about ‘the true prevalence’ because we don’t know what portion of men asked for the test. If 1% asked for a test and 30% of those showed non-paternity, that would be a very different thing than if 50% asked for the test and 30% of those showed non-paternity. This should be obvious and very simple math. And no, I am not attempting to ‘excuse’ anything, I’m attempting to counteract the incel narrative that women should be ‘assigned’ to men, that there is some social g…
/r/MensRights29/10/24 06:07 PM
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It’s 30% of men who actually have reason to suspect non-paternity (ie, 70% of them are wrong). In western countries, it’s between <1-5% of all births, depending on the study. It varies from country to country. Basically, the less coercion (legal, social, and financial) there is on women to settle, the less non-paternity there is, because women only marry when they find a man they want in those countries.
/r/MensRights29/10/24 03:06 AM
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Half my family is Jewish, jerkoff. If you’re not anti-Semitic, pick a different epithet. https://x.com/nowthisimpact/status/972238852634042368?s=46 https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/03/the-origins-of-the-globalist-slur/555479/ https://forward.com/community/412627/globalism-anti-semitism/?amp=1 https://antisemitism.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/6847-Antisem-Glossary-2023-8-WEB-VERSION.pdf https://www.ajc.org/translatehate/globalist https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-some-jews-a…
/r/MensRights29/10/24 02:30 AM
1

I see MORE guys online talking about women not being great, than women saying the e converse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:47 AM
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“Globalists” A little anti-semitism with your misogyny?
/r/MensRights28/10/24 11:58 PM
1

Well, TBF it depends on the context. If I were in an anti-choice state where rapists get parental rights, and especially if I were single (not on birth control), I’d cut off a finger myself to avoid it. At my current age, if I wasn’t conscious…? Eh, it’s a disgusting dilemma, but not as clear of a call as the previous scenario.
/r/MensRights26/10/24 09:33 PM
1

It’s a leap to assume that I want this.
/r/MensRights26/10/24 06:29 PM
0

You might be surprised
/r/MensRights26/10/24 06:29 PM
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He will if it’s enforced by women with guns. Besides which, most murders are impulsive and if he’s not outside, he’s not going to have the impulse to murder random people… Which brings up the real problem with this plan, which is that the vast majority of women who are murdered, are murdered by their spouses or other male family members (iirc men are more likely to be murdered by strangers), and confining men to the home during any time period whatsoever might actually increase the female murder…
/r/MensRights26/10/24 05:21 AM
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Women with guns are pretty effective.
/r/MensRights26/10/24 05:17 AM
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Men are murdered more …by men. A 7-7 curfew would make men safer from other men, too. That’s just a bad argument against people who are arguing that men are more dangerous than women.
/r/MensRights26/10/24 12:04 AM
0

Cherry picking much?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:42 AM
1

That may be true for some women, IDK, but they’re idiots if so.
/r/MensRights22/10/24 08:31 PM
1

Well, yes, and that’s ok if a man is looking for a trophy wife like an employee- ie, you get this much $ per week, I want # kids, you must keep yourself fit and more attractive than average for your age, you must work out, you get x severance per year of marriage if we divorce, etc. No love on either side, basically. That …’works’ for some people.
/r/MensRights22/10/24 08:29 PM
1

That’s revolting. Speaking as a woman in love with her husband.
/r/MensRights22/10/24 08:26 PM
1

Not really, because the ‘safe’ guy is the one who is actually getting a woman’s commitment- her time, her children, her life. Playboy gets 1% and the guy she married gets 99%, and he’s there mad that he didn’t get 1% instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 07:06 PM
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It’s ‘harder to achieve’ in part because men and boys have decided that education is ‘feminine.’ Boys and men can do well in school. Y’all were virtually the only ones doing well in school 100 years ago, and it’s still seen as masculine in China and other Asian countries to be a scholar or scientist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:21 PM
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‘Female’ isn’t intrinsically derogatory, no. Please re-read what I said.
/r/MensRights18/10/24 04:39 PM
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‘Males and females’ is not dehumanizing. ‘Men and women’ is not dehumanizing. ‘Men and females’ is dehumanizing. ‘Person with a uterus’ has ‘person’ right there, so no, it’s not dehumanizing. r/menandfemales
/r/MensRights17/10/24 06:32 AM
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Trump is absolutely sucking up to male voters.
/r/MensRights17/10/24 03:24 AM
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Well, the ones in the OP are clearly sex workers trying to get around YT’s ban
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 07:53 AM
1

When I was in crew, the uniform was spandex shorts or spandex unitards and tshirts. Loose clothing could get caught in the slide of the seat. I walked across campus in my uniform sometimes, on my way to practice only, and yes, it turned guys heads… I was not wearing it to turn guys’ heads. I was wearing it because it was hot and I don’t want to either wear multiple layers, or carry extra clothing and get dressed again at the boathouse. My boyfriend claimed that women who dressed like that ‘wante…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 12:45 AM
1

Firstly, the gender gap is real and mostly due to the fact that women’s earning potential dramatically drops when they become mothers, whereas men’s does not drop when they become fathers. This is important because, second, contra your example, most women are not trophy wives who have zero responsibilities. Most women work. Even if you don’t care about the women themselves, their married partners are entitled to half of those women’s earnings, just like vice-versa, and their lowered earnings imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:04 PM
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She should be responsible for breaking the marriage/relationship, absolutely. Also any kids (along with her AP) that result. But she is NOT responsible for HIS behavior. Only he is responsible for his behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:11 AM
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Men blame women for all of these things, on this forum, and on other fora, and in other areas of the internet, ALL THE TIME. Just stick around for a bit. Ted Haggard’s whole religion blamed Ted Haggard’s wife when he cheated on her with a gay prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 08:35 PM
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I think it’s based on averaging the number of rapes. Some women are in really sucky conditions, and experience rape multiple times in their lifetimes.
/r/MensRights10/10/24 05:29 PM
1

No, we are not. OP absolves the man of anything and everything short of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:29 AM
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Go to his office hours and have a heart-to-heart discussion with him. He’s basing his opinion on his own limited experience, and is clearly ignorant of yours.
/r/MensRights09/10/24 06:46 PM
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AGAIN, I am not disagreeing with this. I am disagreeing with OP giving the dude carte blanche for any behavior short of physical violence, and blaming it all on the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:35 PM
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It’s the title of the post. A dude not wanting to care for a kid that’s not his is sad if he’s been the kid’s dad it’s whole life- as the child of an adoptive dad I find it especially sad- but it’s not completely unreasonable. But OP specifically said that anything he does, short of violence, ‘is the woman’s fault.’ That leaves a LOT of room for viciousness and stupidity on the man’s part, that OP thinks should be blamed on the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:40 PM
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Terps: ‘women don’t take responsibility for anything.’ Also terps: Man has a child outside of marriage? The woman’s fault. Man is abusive to the mother of his child? The woman’s fault. Man abandons his own child? The woman’s fault. Man cheats on his spouse/partner? The woman’s fault. Man finds out he’s not the father, loses his shit, and ruins multiple lives, including his own, and as long as it’s not direct physical violence, it’s the woman’s fault. Terps are a bunch of whiny, overgrown toddler…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:30 PM
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A man ‘not being required to stick around’ is not the same a a man ‘not being responsible for anything he does.’
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:15 PM
1

That’s not the same as ‘not being responsible for anything he does.’
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:13 PM
1

And, per Harris’ answer, men are not being drafted in the US, which is rhetorical country she is running for president of.
/r/MensRights08/10/24 05:11 PM
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And meanwhile, women are being forced to gestate, and to risk their lives and health for doomed fetuses now.
/r/MensRights08/10/24 04:05 PM
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Are you suggesting that there is actually a secret draft and a massive brainwashing campaign?
/r/MensRights08/10/24 02:36 PM
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Maybe because there is no draft?
/r/MensRights08/10/24 04:14 AM
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When you know the answer and someone else does not, and you insist that you are correct, that can be taken as arrogance or competitiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:10 AM
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I think it depends on the motivation. If he's actually accusing her of cheating, then the paranoia and lack of trust are a problem; I think that's' why a lot of women are offended by it. If it's just the biological 'men can only ever be 99% sure, where women can be 100% sure' thing, then I don't have a problem. It's 'distrust,' vs. 'trust but verify.'
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:06 PM
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If you actually suspect them of cheating on you, yeah, you should have a discussion about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:09 PM
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Or frame it as, ‘let’s do 23 and me to find out if the baby is a carrier for genetic condition x that runs in my family,’ or whatever, instead of, ‘let’s do paternity testing to find out if you cheated on me.’
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:28 PM
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I can definitely see it both ways. I think it’d be better for everyone if it was just routine/ opt out for parents at birth (it’s invasive to do it while the woman is still pregnant, so at birth is better). That way it doesn’t feel like a specific accusation that the man in question is being more suspicious of his partner than any normal man who doesn’t have the intrinsic, literally gut-deep assurance that a woman feels with her kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:26 PM
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I mean, being a rapist is significantly worse than cheating on your spouse, but other than that, yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:19 PM
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TL, DR: ‘My girlfriend Jessica broke up with me because her friends pointed out my toxic traits and told her that she deserved someone better.’
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:10 PM
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TL, DR: ‘Waaaaahhhhh I find this woman hot but I don’t meet her qualifications.’
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:04 PM
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Men die with prostate cancer, not from it, because basically all men will develop prostate cancer if they live long enough. And, again, I said “years of life lost.”Even if an 85 year old person dies from cancer, that is not the same as a 25 year old person dying from cancer. Note the difference between prostate and testicular cancer; the latter would make a better target: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7710589/ Edit: with all of that said, the funding for breast cancer is dispropor…
/r/MensRights23/09/24 01:09 AM
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Fewer lost years of life from prostate cancer than breast cancer.
/r/MensRights22/09/24 05:11 PM
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I definitely think it’s less harmful to actual women, but in some ways I think it can be more harmful to men, if they have any desire to ever be with actual women. Porn in general is the human equivalent of the shiny, nubby bottle for the Australian bottle beetles, and the more artificial it gets, the better it triggers the factors that our brains tell us are ‘sexy’ without actual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:22 PM
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I emphasized ‘humans’ to emphasize that being passive/submissive to someone who presents themself as a leader who will take care of them is a human trait, not a female one. It varies from person to person, but it’s not gendered. Look at how passive Trump supporters are: completely willing to be led by someone, even a known fraud, who says he’ll take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:02 AM
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Yeah, no. humans will act passive if someone they trust offers to be a parent, but that’s not a healthy relationship in either direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:27 PM
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snort This is what that sounds like: ‘the ONLY possible answer is for women to go back to being servants/ pumping out workers for the capitalist machine or THE WORLD WILL LITERALLY END!!!!!1!1!!1!’ Sure. We need kids. But 1)the population is actually still increasing, and given that >99% of our genes are identical from human to human, that basically means that my genes, and yours, will be just fine regardless of whom is having them. 2)The way to get women to want kids is to set up a society wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:25 PM
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some women act that way naturally. some women perform it because society imposes it on them. And some say, ‘fuck that, I’m going to dye my hair blue because I like blue, regardless of what men think about it, and I’m going to earn my own money, have my own house, raise puppies, travel, and have a long, adventurous (or quiet, peaceful) life full of friendship and dogs and cats and serenity, and my nieces/nephews will get my stuff because nowadays it takes more than two working adults to successfu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:05 AM
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Everyone just blinks out of existence, whether they have children or not. DNA is not magic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:55 AM
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I rejected motherhood because it was tantamount to suicide in the modern ‘every man is an island,’ laissez-faire, libertarian west, and I made sure I never needed an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:55 AM
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how odd. I've never met any.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:20 AM
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I think it’s really important to have ‘lived with’ relationships, whether that’s housemates or romantic ones. There’s a lot of stuff that our families do for us, that we’re not even aware of, and ways of interacting that only works with parents. We have to learn to compromise and pull our own weight. And we have to learn what we can and cannot stand. Just to take an obvious/extreme example, I was pretty libertarian about drug use until I had a couple of pothead housemates. I still think it shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:04 PM
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The women who split the bill are also the ones who won’t be subservient. A lot of the guys who whine about this want a woman who will do the home & child care & act like a servant, but also contribute a full-time income.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:27 AM
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Women do not dress up to date level ‘every day.’
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:24 AM
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Already married. Sorry not sorry.
/r/MensRights17/09/24 05:13 AM
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This is deranged.
/r/MensRights17/09/24 03:15 AM
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*Everyone* wants someone with the best of all possible features, men included, but when push comes to shove and a choice has to be made, different people have different priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:06 PM
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Yes. He’s exceptional.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:48 AM
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The women who say that want personality pursue personality. Those women value personality in themselves as well, though, and therefore invest in learning things and becoming better people, rather than in looking elegant or prettying themselves up. Women who invest a great deal in looking their best are also the women who want a man who is interested in looking his best, and those are also the women who attract 90% of male attention, because as so many men on this forum say, most of y’all couldn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:20 AM
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I’ve done so in the past. I didn’t go on many dates, not least because it was fucking expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:17 AM
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If you think that’s what it’s about, your wife isn’t the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 06:08 PM
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There are a lot of things you can do to make the likelihood of divorce lower, without being coercive or a jackass.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 12:09 AM
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15 or 60. Don’t drag the younger Gen Xers into this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 12:08 AM
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Exactly. Just because it’s the woman who files, doesn’t mean it’s the woman who killed the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 11:27 PM
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Some women do find the bad guys exciting. Other women do not. If he wants to attract a crazy glamor girl and inevitably get divorced, let him go for that. If he understands that relationships are work, and wants a happy, stable life, then being happy and stable, and having secure male friendships, will attract a quieter, more well-adjusted girl who will understand that relationships are work, not fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:51 AM
1

Did you miss the part where I said, “it’s not equality”?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:45 PM
2

No
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:34 AM
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‘Females and men’ It’s not equality when males hoard resources and deliberately keep women out of power and out of financial independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:18 PM
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‘Men and females’ Same reason I care that country clubs not be exclusively male places.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:41 PM
3

I strongly doubt those convictions were actually false, given how difficult it is to convict rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:15 PM
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Do you mean woman, or do you also distrust girls, female dogs, female birds, livestock, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:13 PM
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Females? Do you mean women? Or are you implying that he avoids little girls, female pets, female livestock, etc? Given that his stated reason is to ‘avoid temptation,’ that implies some pretty negative things about him. Also, there’s a LOT of space between ‘rapist’ and ‘can’t be within 20 feet of a woman.’
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:10 PM
3

Oh, look. Another man projecting his own feelings onto women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:29 AM
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Not all men. Yes, all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:26 AM
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LOL It’s not ‘me too’ that made women think this, it’s their own fucking experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:25 AM
3

Pence was applying Pence rules at the workplace long before me too, because he’s a fundamentalist nut job, not because he was afraid of being accused of something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:23 AM
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It’s not women melting down over this
/r/MensRights10/09/24 05:05 AM
1

Imagine thinking that taking care of kids is all, or even mostly, ‘playing with them.’
/r/MensRights09/09/24 04:01 AM
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There is the chance of another guy, and you are taking a risk- and, of course, so is she. There’s always the chance of another woman, too. That’s part of why there is so much drama - music, books, movies, plays, etc- about romance, and have been since music and drama and books were a thing. We’re all vulnerable, and we’re all a little bit afraid. Men and women both vary from individual to individual in how naturally monogamous they are. The key for happy relationships isn’t necessarily for every…
/r/ExRedPill09/09/24 03:13 AM
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Attractive people are treated better due to being attractive. Both women and men who do not toe the line and perform attractiveness are treated worse by the opposite sex (and by homosexual members of their own sex) for not toeing that line.
/r/MensRights08/09/24 12:22 AM
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It doesn’t help that a lot of thugs actually believe themselves to be protectors.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:23 AM
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My taste in fiction matches what I say I want exactly, but it’s fucking difficult to find authors that write good, healthy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:18 AM
2

So, like, bad relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:32 PM
0

Have any sane women treated you horribly?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:50 PM
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Downside is that you’d be distancing yourself from reality, but hey. You do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:10 AM
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Yes. So, basically, his kids are going to private schools, taking vacations around the world with their peer group, and dressing like their peer group.
/r/MensRights01/09/24 04:54 AM
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Depends on what you mean by ‘dating.’ I’ve never had sex with a guy without being in an exclusive relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 08:27 PM
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Women are very rarely perpetrators of rape or murder on other women, so them focusing on defending against men makes strong statistical sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:56 PM
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It’s a pretty well-known phenomenon sociologically that increased online interactions in modern life are leading to more harassment and threats against women and girls. If I cite sources, will you actually read them?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:54 PM
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So, recently someone (probably, but not necessarily, from this forum) made an account specifically to DM me and say that he hoped that I get raped to death by a n!66er (his word, not mine), and blah blah blah way too much effort to elaborate on how he hoped I died. I reported it, deleted it, and blocked the 1 karma account, as one does. Got a response from Reddit that someone who wants me to be raped to death ‘is not in violation of community standards.’ I used to lurk as a presumptive male on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:50 PM
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Tell that to the capitalists buying up single family homes, and not paying enough to actually raise families on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:52 PM
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Tell me you don’t know what ‘toxic masculinity’ means without telling me.
/r/MensRights29/08/24 02:20 AM
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I’m aware of what multidimensional scaling is, genius. I’ve done it before. Compressing complex sets of factors into single data points is still specious. And modern dating is more like pre-agricultural dating on many variables.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 11:00 PM
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Terps: post histrionic screed about how not getting paternity tests kills people and costs billions (without citation) Also terps: ‘women being emotional are the source and cause of the problem!’
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:09 AM
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Compressing any set of complex behaviors into a single data point is specious. And no, pre- and post-agricultural mating behaviors are not more like each other than what we do today. If anything, modern dating is more like pre-agricultural dating, with agricultural dating being the exception. I agree with you on the diversity of coexisting mating behaviors. What’s interesting with that is that the two extremes - zero commitment, single mothers with multiple baby-daddies, and hyper-religious, ful…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:59 PM
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There are a lot of posts about specific men doing specific things, examples of how individual women have been treated, and that adds up to data about populations in general that jibes with the sociological data on that subject. But there isn’t a lot of ‘man hating.’ Top post by ‘hot’ is ‘Fathers don’t usually die during childbirth.’ Not man-hating. Top post by ‘top, now,’ is ‘more women join abortion lawsuit against Texas.’ Not man-hating. Top post of all time is ‘world day without a hijab.’ Not…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:48 PM
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I’m a subscriber, genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:41 AM
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Dude. Take a breath. It’s almost impossible to read that. And I disagree. There are a lot of women bashing a specific type of man: overgrown man-children who do not believe, or who believe but do not wish to act, that women are not real people the same way that men are, and that men are entitled to servitude by women. That women enjoy being degraded by men, if they’re attractive enough. Hell, you see plenty of that on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:29 AM
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‘Women like to complicate things’ = ‘women get upset if the house is so cluttered and dirty that it is dangerous for the baby.’
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:05 AM
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SAHPs work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:03 AM
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The article isn’t wrong. It’s stressful to be (effectively) the sole breadwinner, and it’s also unhealthy to obsess about money to that degree.
/r/MensRights27/08/24 12:54 AM
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Well, first of all, you’re reducing a very complex set of behaviors into a single data point, and that’s specious. Secondly, mating behavior pre- and post- agriculture are vastly different from each other, based on every anthropological and archaeological at day we have, so do you mean pre-agricultural mating behaviors, or post-agricultural mating behaviors? If you think that birth control has revolutionized things, I agree with you, but I would disagree that it is more revolutionary than the ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:11 AM
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That manosphere vision of ‘feminists’ does not represent most feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:20 PM
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Those criteria being, ‘does not make things better for men by making things worse for women.’ Yeah…
/r/MensRights25/08/24 05:28 PM
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Solution: pay women for what is currently unpaid or low-paid labor, at the same level that you pay men for labor of similar education levels. Then tax them appropriately.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:16 PM
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They practice serial monogamy without formal commitment or punishments for breakups.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:08 PM
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Barely legal women are not at ‘peak fertility.’ The peak in survival of both infants and mothers happens between about 22-26.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:07 PM
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Partial agreement. Disagree on the ‘we are far from our evolutionary past’ part, as we never stop talking evolving and there is no single ‘evolutionary past.’
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:05 PM
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I’m happily married, and my husband seems to like me well enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:04 PM
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I have literally never seen a feminist make the argument that it is ‘natural’ for human men to fight with each other over ‘females.’ Spurious comparisons of humans to other clades is the realm of manospherians, terps, and militant vegans. It is absolutely true that some people don’t deserve love, and I include some women in that. Some people are just sociopaths. Others want to live a life of effective parasitism on another person. No one should have to submit to either thing, and most people, of…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:48 PM
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When I see women complaining about the dating market, they’re not complaining about the attractiveness of men or lack thereof; they’re complaining about baby-men with low social and emotional intelligence who think that the women in the porn they watch are actually enjoying themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:57 PM
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Yet another evo-psych article claiming the mantle of ‘science’ for what amounts to the author’s feelings on the topic. The falsehoods start with the first highlighted sentence: there are a crapton of species with females who neither require nor want the ‘protection’ of males, but the author believed it and didn’t bother to research it.
/r/MensRights23/08/24 02:41 AM
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I’ve seen a LOT of videos and testimonies from women whose husbands started out doing half, and then gradually checked out over the course of a relationship, especially when they had kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 05:17 PM
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Villages yes, single income homes no. The family’s a lot more vulnerable to the vagaries of the economy when only one parent is employed. It was different when one person could expect to work for the same company for 40 years and retire with a pension, but that way has been gone for half a century thanks to modern capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:40 AM
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I don’t think we should ignore them at all- like I said, it bothers men enough that it should be routine/opt out, at birth.
/r/MensRights18/08/24 02:38 AM
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See the second % I mentioned. 2% of births overall, in western countries (higher in places with more social and financial reproductive coercion).
/r/MensRights18/08/24 02:36 AM
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France can’t speak. In western countries, it’s like 30% in cases where the named father has a reason to suspect paternity fraud. It’s like 2% of all births overall- still too high, but hardly an epidemic.
/r/MensRights18/08/24 12:08 AM
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It doesn’t matter what you ‘choose,’ there just isn’t enough support. New mothers look down the barrel of roughly 5 years of never to rarely getting a full night’s sleep, often with their husbands snoring away in the bedroom, for each child; and being responsible for 90% of the child and home care, as well as (often) working full time. Everything they ever wanted and everything they used to do for fun gets put on the back burner, up to and including (often) bathing themselves and self-care. So, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 11:38 PM
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Eh, I see what you mean. None of us wants to admit that our friends are the bad ones, and we all sympathize more with people we understand than those we do not.
/r/MensRights17/08/24 10:16 PM
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Women do not lie about rape more than anyone lies about having been burgled or experienced road rage, statistically, and paternity fraud is quite rare in cultures where women can choose the fathers of their children. I’m 100% fine with making paternity tests routine at birth, though, because so many men seem to fear this so much. Cheek swabs are harmless, and making it routine would eliminate the sense of distrust a lot of women perceive around the question.
/r/MensRights17/08/24 09:08 PM
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Motherhood is suicide of the self.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:05 PM
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Exactly. The fundamental concept is not wrong.
/r/MensRights17/08/24 06:05 PM
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I came into my marriage with more wealth than my husband, so yeah: I’d have felt kind of insulted if he asked me to sign a prenup.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:55 PM
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Being entitled to something is not the same as ‘forcing other people to grant it.’ I’m entitled to others being polite drivers on the freeway. So are you. I’m not allowed to go ballistic and rage if they’re not polite, though. ‘Entitlement’ in the social sense means that you should be able to expect it as a matter of course, and people who do not grant it are bad people. If I let a door slam in your face, on purpose, with no provocation, that is disrespectful, and I am a bad person. If it’s on a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:31 AM
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I don’t think women are ‘encouraged’ to be as promiscuous as men. I think men are encouraged to valorize promiscuity, whether they want it or not, and promiscuity in women who want it has been destigmatized to some degree. I do think that men, in general, are probably naturally somewhat more promiscuous than women, in general, because there historically were greater physiological impacts on a woman for promiscuity. It makes sense that evolution would drive some degree of differential there, if t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:41 PM
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If you think being a husband and father is about money, yeah: you will be treated as a walking wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:23 AM
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Terps: ‘of course I value family and partnership!’ Also terps: ‘if I had to choose between family and banging with no responsibility, I’d totally choose banging.’
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:40 PM
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Yes, I am entitled to a modicum of respect by dint of my humanity. So are you. I’m not talking ‘bow,’ I’m talking ‘don’t spit in each other’s faces, unless they spit on you first.’
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:57 PM
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Terps do not care about pursuing intimacy and relationships, unless by ‘intimacy’ you mean ‘no-strings sex with as many women as possible.’ A huge gripe by terps, on this forum over and over, is that women who readily have sex no-strings sex do so with some men more than others. As for romance movies and novels, the men in them are fantasies: caring, grown-up males who are attractive but don’t fuck anything that moves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 05:15 AM
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Well, all people are entitled to a modicum of respect as long as they themselves are not acting disrespectfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 09:47 PM
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Hahhahahhahahhahahhahahhah
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:56 PM
2

Tell me you’ve never actually been bone-tired without telling me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:55 PM
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Begging the question.
/r/MensRights11/08/24 01:39 AM
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What is this ‘personhood’ that you supposedly love about someone, if it’s not their individuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:37 AM
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It’s almost like the Law and Order party isn’t actually for Law and Order
/r/MensRights08/08/24 12:46 AM
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This
/r/MensRights08/08/24 12:45 AM
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“White men and married families” Wow
/r/MensRights08/08/24 12:45 AM
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Try r/passportbros
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:07 PM
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If the Asian woman he married actually sees him as attractive, as opposed to being a financial resource that she can’t afford to pass up because her younger siblings won’t get to go to school if she doesn’t, then more power to them both. If it’s a marriage of financial convenience, even, and both parties accept that… again, that happens. She’s basically a professional trophy wife. It’s not ideal and not admirable, but it happens. If he’s basically buying a wife/servant, and she’s forced to do it…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:05 PM
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I don’t pay as much attention to the news, and haven’t seen her saying this. Disappointing if so.
/r/MensRights03/08/24 03:43 PM
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Lucky you: you haven’t hung around incel fora a lot. It’s pretty common with them.
/r/MensRights02/08/24 06:22 PM
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Both things can exist without extremism and hatred. It is the extremism and hatred that is the problem, not the lack of sex either by choice or without choice.
/r/MensRights02/08/24 06:14 PM
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Men are also victims of rape. This redefinition helped those men. And yes, it hurts men and women who are rapists.
/r/MensRights01/08/24 10:54 PM
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https://feminist.org/news/100000-have-told-the-fbi-that-rape-is-rape-have-you/ https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/resource-pages/rape-addendum#:~:text=In%202013%2C%20the%20Summary%20UCR,definition%20of%20rape%20which%20was
/r/MensRights01/08/24 06:01 PM
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Feminists got the definition of rape changed such that men can be considered victims of rape as well as women.
/r/MensRights01/08/24 05:45 PM
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Yeah. He comes from a culture that takes things a bit more seriously than most Americans, and in think that stuck with him even though he was born here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:17 PM
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No True Scotsman fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:23 PM
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I dated my now-husband for 6 months before we had sex. Never did hookups or casual sex before him. Sooo. Yeah, I agree with OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:22 PM
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Nobody cares about men who actually GTOW. The problem is that the MGTOW movement is full of men who don’t actually want to GTOW, so they spend every last second on a sort of sour grapes exercise of egging each other on about how horrible women are. As for passport bros, there are a lot of them who basically go abroad to purchase a bangmaid/mommy more attractive and subservient than they could get in a western country, and anyone who wants a bangmaid/mommy is kind of pathetic. There are also some…
/r/MensRights01/08/24 03:36 PM
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You ‘see that all the time,’ hmmm😂
/r/MensRights01/08/24 03:27 PM
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Or because they want the status of ‘having a woman’ to impress other men.
/r/MensRights01/08/24 03:26 PM
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Neither not wanting to date nor wanting to date is pathetic. What’s pathetic is incels who literally want to enslave women so that they can “be allotted a female” by the state, and MGTOW who spend every second obsessing about women rather than GTOW. This is not rocket science.
/r/MensRights01/08/24 03:25 PM
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That would be more significant if the n of your entire class was 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:56 AM
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Re-read. Still looks like you’re talking about BJs
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:17 PM
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…what?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:24 PM
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I was responding only to the last sentence. Nobody ‘grinds on a silicone dildo.’
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:19 PM
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The entire pleasure in giving a blow job is the fact that the penis in question is attached to the man I love, and he’s enjoying himself. I have never, ever, heard of a woman pretending to give a BJ to a dildo outside of ‘how to give a blowjob’ classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:54 PM
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-recognize that women are human beings, and that they are neither stupider nor more emotional than men, on average. -recognize that the things that women want and need are not less logical than the things that men want and need. -recognize that both men and women are unique individuals, and that there is more to pair-bonding than finding someone with a similar level of physical hotness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:22 AM
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I've never gone to bars or other hookup places, but the same OKC data set that men like to cite, where women rate most men as 'below average,' (there was a reason for that other than actual looks, but that's a different topic), also showed that women actually *messaged* average men the most, wheras men actually *message* the hottest women the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:37 PM
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I, personally, am fine with coffee dates. I proposed coffee dates myself when I was dating. It's low-stakes, public, and easy... and I'm an independent, feminist, career woman who has never had more than a passing interest in having kids. My stakes in finding a man were pretty similar to a man's stakes in finding a woman - lower, even, than most men, because I'm pretty content being alone, too. But a woman who is interested in having kids, and is going to take that serious hit to her income - wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:29 PM
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snort Tell that to the Canaans and Palestinians. Judaism and Christianity have just as much of a history of war and (ahem) Crusades (it’s right there in the word) as Islam. The Bible is full of genocides that are dismissed as genocides because they were ‘ordered by God,’ so the victims were allllllll bad, down to the last infant boy dashed on the rocks. Western history is full of wars over religion. That’s part of why the American founders wanted a secular government. Conservatism has been full …
/r/MensRights28/07/24 05:50 AM
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The dates are the hob interview. I made it clear in my post that I was talking about the actual job, and that the stakes are a lot higher for a woman ‘interviewing’ men than they are for employers looking for paid labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 05:28 AM
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When a man and a woman love each other very much…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:07 AM
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Again, you haven’t been paying attention. I can pull videos for you, but only if you promise to watch them.
/r/MensRights28/07/24 01:54 AM
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Firstly, most post-war western men are, indeed, quite tolerant. However, there is a regressive subset of them with a toddler’s view of adulthood, that being a ‘grown up’ means that you get to say what you want and do what you want, whenever you want, any to whomever you want, and that subset is having a giant tantrum over the fact that grownups cannot actually do any of that without consequences. They’ve grown hateful of the people telling them that the world isn’t like that any more, if it ever…
/r/MensRights28/07/24 01:51 AM
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No, merely contradicting the statements that 1)there are only ever 2 genders and 2)that genes are 100% in control. However, I think even trans people would mostly agree that being trans is not ideal, and maybe even equivalent to a birth defect- one that can be corrected, to at least some extent, by surgery. Just like other birth defects.
/r/MensRights28/07/24 01:48 AM
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It’s not just religion- they’re 100% happy to abandon the literal tenets of their professed religion to worship the orange calf
/r/MensRights28/07/24 01:45 AM
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You haven’t been paying attention
/r/MensRights28/07/24 01:45 AM
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Accepting a man as one’s mate allows the very creation of one’s children to be on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:44 AM
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In addition to intersex people, already mentioned, people and animals can be exposed to androgizing or feminizing chemical in utero, and there are also congenital conditions that make genetic males into de-facto females via androgen insensitivity.
/r/MensRights27/07/24 11:14 PM
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There’s a fuckton of hatred on the right and in Evangelical Christianity, too.
/r/MensRights27/07/24 11:05 PM
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Now imagine that successfully getting a job means that the ‘employer’ is literally putting their body and their children in your hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:29 PM
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Awww, look at the little boy pretending to have scored an emotional point :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:12 PM
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snort I’m seeing something, but it’s not about my data😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:22 PM
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Young women are not having tons of sex. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-myths-of-sex/202407/is-voluntary-celibacy-on-the-rise?amp
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:51 AM
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‘Women are human.’ ‘Source’
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:48 AM
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Yes. Terps should absolutely leave American women alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:45 AM
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2 weeks in several cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:01 PM
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No, I don’t. But the simple fact of the matter is that the “choices” are not equal for men and women. If they women have different consequences for making the same choice as men, then the choice is not responsible for the consequences, it’s the fact the at they did it while female.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:00 PM
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I have multiple co-workers who took less than a month off after giving birth. It’s the US: there is no paid maternal leave. Other co-workers have become the primary caretakers and only work part time in order to be able to take care of the kids. The former is absolutely more secure for the woman, and potentially the children, if the husband looses his job or has an affair and decides to marry a 20 year old when he hits his 40’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:27 PM
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Then, since she is sacrificing her current income and lifetime earning potential for their children, she should be entitled to half of the extra earnings he gets by being able to work more because she is doing the child care.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:24 PM
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Let’s say you have a married, heterosexual couple. They mutually decide to have children. The man’s income, statistically, will go up. The woman’s income, statistically, will go down. Did her income go down because of her ‘choice’ to have children? Why wouldn’t his income do the same, if it was about the choice to have children?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:49 PM
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Hundreds or thousands of living human cells (in addition to the superficial dry, dead ones) are ripped from their comfortable, supportive environment- which evolved to perfectly support them- to be cast adrift on the wind, settling out as dust- or to be consumed by fungus under the nails.
/r/MensRights23/07/24 03:58 AM
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Scratching your arm is killing human life.
/r/MensRights23/07/24 01:59 AM
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The men who whine about ‘the friend zone’ do so because they do not value friendship and see women as useful only for sex. You’re basically admitting that you do not see women as real people, and only give them the time of day if you want to manipulate them into fucking you with superficial niceness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:17 PM
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This is the correct answer for 98% of the people reading the OP. If you don’t know, it is ok to say that you don’t know.
/r/MensRights22/07/24 08:03 PM
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They realize it; they just don’t care to sacrifice themselves to prevent it.
/r/MensRights22/07/24 08:02 PM
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Much constructive. Very rights.
/r/MensRights21/07/24 07:41 PM
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🤦🏻‍♀️ why do you deny any responsibility at all because you can’t fix the entire problem by yourself? Just have male friends. Pay attention when they’re suffering. Don’t sell them to just ‘buck it up’ or ‘be a man.’ Offer support. Encourage therapy. Encourage medicine, if that’s what they need. Let them talk to you. Be the change you wish to see. That’s all any of us can do to actually fix things. whining on the internet and blaming women for all of your suffering has about as much actual effect…
/r/MensRights20/07/24 06:32 PM
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Development inside the uterus is preparing a receptacle, not building a soul. I’ve seen enough literal death to know that sometimes a body is empty, even when it still looks just fine. The body is just a body. https://churchandstate.org.uk/2017/03/hey-conservatives-the-bible-says-when-a-fetus-is-alive-and-its-not-when-you-think/
/r/MensRights20/07/24 06:28 PM
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We’re all responsible for each other and for the cultural zeitgeist that causes this.
/r/MensRights20/07/24 03:35 AM
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No, they really aren’t. They have reflex arcs to build their nervous system and develop muscle tone, but those are definitionally unconscious
/r/MensRights20/07/24 02:48 AM
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According to the Bible, yes. It’s when it breathes on its own.
/r/MensRights20/07/24 02:47 AM
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Being physically attached to another human for life support is not the same thing as needing support from one’s community.
/r/MensRights20/07/24 02:46 AM
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There are plenty of parasites that do not, for various reasons, cause immune responses in the host. The reason that a fetus isn’t a parasite is that parasitism is definitionally one species using the resources of another species, in a way that harms the host. If the fetus caused the exact same effects in the host but was of a different species, it absolutely would fit the definition of a parasite.
/r/MensRights20/07/24 02:45 AM
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FWIW, by the biological definition it just as alive, and just as human, as the cells in your tongue or your liver. ‘Life’ isn’t the question. Personhood is.
/r/MensRights20/07/24 02:40 AM
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Eating a fresh sprig of parsley is ‘killing life.’
/r/MensRights20/07/24 02:38 AM
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Call it whatever you want. Just fucking do something about it.
/r/MensRights20/07/24 02:34 AM
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I think we’d be happy if we could just lock them up after they’ve jizzed on someone in public, but fuck, we can’t even lock up actual rapists.
/r/MensRights19/07/24 11:53 PM
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1)If you are unwilling to address the fact that one of the best preventions for suicide and addiction is for men to seek medical help for these issues, and that there needs to be state and federal action to widen access to both psychological and medical therapies, then complaining about them is just valorization of victimhood. 2)If you are unwilling to address the fact that the best preventions of death by accidents, by heart disease, and by cancer are alterations of risk-taking behavior (extrem…
/r/MensRights19/07/24 06:45 PM
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And you apparently think that’s peachy-keen.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:40 PM
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Not all men sexually assault women in public, but there sure are a fuckton of men who are more interested in defending men who general, or criticizing women for being offended by it, than there are men who are interested in policing each other and simply stating that that behavior is uncivilized and unacceptable.
/r/MensRights19/07/24 04:18 PM
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So you don’t think psychological or emotional coercion is a thing? Or do you just not think it’s a thing for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:28 AM
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Do you think they groomed/emotionally manipulated those women? Do you think they paid them the prevailing wage? Do you think they had legal employment contracts? Do you think that sex with the rates was part of the contract?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 06:23 PM
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Ah. You're one of those people who thinks that women all run around on their husbands with men of other races.
/r/MensRights16/07/24 04:25 AM
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1)If a woman spends $50-100 in clothes, cosmetics, and prep time for a date, and the guy spends nothing and shows up unkempt, yeah: he should pay for the meal. 2)If a man is looking for a tradwife SAHM, he should pay for the meal to show that she’s not going to be destitute and helpless once she is trapped by kids. 3)If a dude puts in some amount of effort to look halfway decent, and wants a partnership marriage in which both members work and both take care of kids, yeah: they should split the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:08 AM
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You don’t think he’s actually guilty of sex trafficking, or you don’t think sex trafficking should be against the law?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:56 PM
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Is that supposed to mean the baby is dead? Yes, but why do you have to even say that…?
/r/MensRights15/07/24 11:53 PM
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It’s absolutely normal to cry happy tears when a baby is born.
/r/MensRights15/07/24 11:32 PM
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First, that’s not a link; second, that’s not what was talked about in the post above me; and third, that’s likely from the study that graded all DV, from yelling to murder, the same. Since you edited your post to request references, here they are: https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/why-women-are-penalised-for-getting-angry-at-work-050000569.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACYpQC07pFFtlBuluHVHbMy_iLhe9Lam0TPS62CKUAmu3v89I8NjHYpSNSZK-fXsWsz4c3Mp…
/r/MensRights15/07/24 11:31 PM
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I’ve seen men yell, curse, slam doors, belittle people, hang up on people, etc at work with zero repercussions, and I have seen women written up for same. The entire phenomenon of ‘Karens’ has become the social pillory of women who’ve dared to express anger in public. Men have to basically endanger lives with road rage, or get up into people’s faces in an attempt to instigate a fight, to get the same level of public shaming. I haven’t heard about the DV study; if it’s true, that’s sad and Not OK…
/r/MensRights15/07/24 09:50 PM
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Men are allowed to show anger, and women are not.
/r/MensRights15/07/24 04:15 AM
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Rules for women: 1)Always pay for your own meal the first date. Alternate paying after that, unless or until you forget whose turn it is. 2)Do not date a man who picks fights with other people, no matter the pretext, or who belittles other people to make himself feel better, no matter the pretext. 3)Never allow a stranger who is interested in dating you to drive you anywhere. Arrange to meet at the restaurant/venue.
/r/MensRights13/07/24 12:43 AM
1

Sleep deprivation is serious for both spouses. Why has the wife been awake for long enough to be dressed, cooking breakfast, taking care of pets & kids, etc?
/r/MensRights11/07/24 04:40 PM
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I’m fine with fair prenups, that include things like increasing entitlements of the payee sacrifices their career to take care of the family, or has children. And I think things like penalties for adultery are fine as well. There are some guys out there who seem to genuinely think that they’re doing a woman a favor if she’s a SAHM, and that she should be so grateful for the ‘vacation’ that she shouldn’t get anything in a divorce, even if she’s the primary caregiver, and that’s just bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 05:56 PM
-2

Because women are sincerely ok with being alone if they can’t get the guy they want. A man would rather be with a woman he hates than be alone. A woman would rather be alone than be with a man she doesn’t like.
/r/MensRights08/07/24 12:28 AM
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No, there’s a continent in there, plus half of another…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:12 PM
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Or, you know, live our lives like other people. Work, have hobbies, have pets, etc. Drama is the human condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 05:03 AM
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Hmmm, which parts of the world are you leaving out…🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 05:01 AM
2

Begging the question
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:59 PM
1

Anyone is “allowed” to end a relationship for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:41 AM
1

I see the problem with promiscuous women for monogamous men. If you want an open relationship, that’s fine: get with a woman who also wants an open relationship. Like should get with like.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 06:12 PM
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Hahhahahahaha Look in the mirror, buddy. The difference between us is that I don’t think that all men are philanderers, and I don’t think that all men are bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:59 PM
1

You seem easily entertained.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:57 PM
1

Nice try. I’ve never done casual sex. However, like many humans, I am capable of learning from the experiences of others, and of learning from the online speech of men who would like to use me. Now that that (seemingly necessary when arguing with men 🙄) step is taken care of, let’s get back to the point: fuckbois are not somehow miraculously immune to the inability to properly bond. That’s why they’re fuckbois. Not everyone gets enough oxytocin to properly bond during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:15 PM
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The issue is that you’re a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:37 AM
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I don’t think that ‘women’ want to be the girlfriend of a philanderer. They might want to take him out for a spin, but not for a long-term relationship. And if they do try it for a bit, well, that’s what breakups and divorce are for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:36 AM
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😂 Good for you and your second wife. I wouldn’t trust you as far as I could throw you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:21 AM
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In my case, it’s a term for my philandering, angry grandfather, who bullied and treated his kids so badly that he and his wife ended up with two grandkids out of four kids, and two great-grandkids out of those two kids. He fucked up four generations of people by being a philanderer and a horrible person. And also for most of the men on this forum, who are either fuckbois or fuckboi wannabes, who look at the financially coercive relationship my grandfather had with my grandma and think, ‘yeah, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:20 AM
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Yes, it is. Baring untreated erectile dysfunction, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:16 AM
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Doesn’t take gaslighting, and it doesn’t take anything I’ve said to make anyone think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:17 PM
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I don’t… but there are a LOT of hypocritical terps out there, so the majority of the guys with that attitude on this forum are that sort of guy, or wish they could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:16 PM
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Neither do fuckbois. Once a philanderer, always a philanderer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:56 PM
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This applies to men who treat women like “cumrags” and assume all other men do so as well; it assumes that the women in question aren’t also using the men in question just as callously; it assumes that sex somehow dirties a woman; and it assumes that there is no other actual aspect to pairing up besides the willingness to settle down and an acceptable level of hotness for each side. Basically, it’s all just a terp begging the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:56 PM
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We don’t usually see ‘women are too picky’ and ‘women should choose better men’ in the same post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:55 PM
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We currently have three cats and two dogs, down from four cats and two dogs due to one passing of old age last year. We each had two cats when we got married.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:55 PM
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Your prerogative.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:53 PM
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🤷🏻‍♀️you’re entitled to your one opinion. I personally was more attracted to my husband because he likes cats, and I wouldn’t have pursued the relationship if he didn’t also like dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:50 PM
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That's not the only reason that someone would dislike cats, but when you hear people talk about 'not liking cats,' that's why. If someone is allergic, or has a dog that doesn't like cats, or whatever, those are valid. But it's something that requires explanation. It's like a prior conviction for assault: 'I punched a guy who was kicking my dog, and he was a lawyer,' is a valid excuse - but assault is something that requires further explanation before someone is eligible. Edit: it's kind of inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:29 PM
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You forgot to change your user profile 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:04 PM
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Cats are not obedient. Men who can only handle obedient relationships are not what modern women are looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:03 PM
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This is true. One of the things that made me want a first date with my now-husband was a profile picture of him with his cat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:01 PM
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How much clearer can I be? The OP claims that "feminists hate Men's Mental Health Month." I haven't seen evidence of that specific claim.
/r/MensRights29/06/24 02:30 AM
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Ok, those are bad, but it’s not what I asked. Are feminists mad about Men’s Mental Health Month being brought up?
/r/MensRights28/06/24 11:14 PM
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Do they?
/r/MensRights28/06/24 05:14 AM
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snort you seem to be suggesting that a woman’s decision to be a homemaker is made in a vacuum. I see men all over Reddit, all over the fucking internet, whining about how they can’t get ‘traditional’ women in the west any more. There’s a whole movement of men going to more conservative parts of the planet to seek out ‘tradwives’ who don’t want a paid career, don’t want anything outside the home. Men want this. There are also stories all over the internet of women whose husbands pressured them to…
/r/MensRights26/06/24 01:32 AM
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You can sacrifice your career trajectory without quitting. The person who has to leave in the middle of the day to take the kids to a doctor’s appointment, or orthodontic fitting, or whatever, is not the person who will be in line for a promotion. This is not rocket science. And yeah: a dude who can do his own plumbing, carpentry, etc contributes more value to a relationship than one who can’t. And yes, women consider that.
/r/MensRights25/06/24 07:17 PM
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I don’t think any gay people would say that the social benefits of marriage are ‘intangible.’ I don’t think that they’re intangible to cis het men, either; there’s an implication of safety and stability that a married man has, which an unmarried one does not. Likewise, even legal power-of-attorneys that are signed and established outside of marriage, and outside of a blood relationship, aren’t always honored. There were cases of common-law gay spouses being denied the right to make decisions for…
/r/MensRights25/06/24 07:13 PM
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I don’t know what hood sacrifices are.
/r/MensRights25/06/24 04:00 PM
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shrug disregard the Ms. Source then, if you prefer. It’s not like I built my entire argument on it. I agree with you that adding children to the picture changes everything; frankly, I think a woman who has children with a man without being married to him is just stupid. As for what’s better about being married for individuals vs being in a committed relationship, lol at why gay folks wanted to get married: there are still a lot of tax, social security, and other financial benefits, there is soci…
/r/MensRights25/06/24 03:59 PM
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‘Cost of living’ and ‘standard of living’ are not the same thing. Responding to the below: 1)marital property is not “his” property. 2)Alimony is awarded in less than 10% of divorced, usually when a woman has completely foregone a career to cook, clean, and raise a man’s children. She sacrifices her entire future for him, he pays for her future. 3)Y’all are constantly saying ‘a man’s value increases with age, a woman’s decreases.’ Indeed, divorced men are much more likely than divorced women to …
/r/MensRights25/06/24 03:47 PM
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First off, most women work outside the home as well. Secondly, being a 24-7 cook, housekeeper, nanny, and secretary is not ‘free.’ Look at how much it would cost to pay someone to do all of that work, and to be on call 24-7. Not to mention how much it would cost to pay an egg donor and a gestational surrogate. But sure, if you feel that way, it’s better for everyone that you, individually, DO pay someone for the services you want rather than expecting a servant to be grateful to you.
/r/MensRights25/06/24 03:45 PM
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Women don’t expect to get Keanu Reeves (or the modern equivalent), either, but … they try. They fail. They move on to something more realistic. In other words, women’s trajectories are a lot like men’s, but women whine less about being ‘second choice’ or how men ‘wasted their best years chasing stacys.’
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:15 AM
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That’s a bit like saying that it’s impossible to get pregnant if you don’t have sex: technically true, but absolutely meaningless in the real world of real relationships. Statistically, the not way to lose significant amounts of weight and keep it off over the long term is to undergo major abdominal surgery, which has significant morbidity and mortality even now, or pay $1K-$1.5K/month for GLP-1 medications. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-diets-don-t-work-and-what-does/ https://w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:12 AM
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It was intended to add data, not contradict you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:46 AM
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Ok. Go find yourself an independently wealthy woman, then.
/r/MensRights25/06/24 04:44 AM
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Sure. It’s pretty well known,, outside of the manosphere. Quote: “ on average a woman can expect an almost 30% decline in her standard of living following divorce, while men often see an increase of 10%.2” See also: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5992251/ Quote: “First, men were more vulnerable to short-term consequences of divorce for subjective measures of well-being, but postdivorce adaptation alleviated gender differences in these outcomes. Second, a medium-term view on multipl…
/r/MensRights25/06/24 04:37 AM
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Immediately, or over time? After looks (and I don’t like gym rats, FWIW), what I notice immediately is voice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:26 PM
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Security. Divorce is an expensive PITA, but that’s pressure to make things work rather than get a divorce. My husband and I make similar amounts, but I don’t think I would have wanted to buy a house with him if we hadn’t been married. That means we’d still be paying rent instead of building equity. Regardless of expectations, women are usually financially worse off (but happier) after a divorce.
/r/MensRights24/06/24 11:16 PM
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It’s not ‘your’ house, ‘your’ kids, or ‘your’ money. It’s marital property. Marital property gets evenly divided, the primary caretaker gets primary custody (in most states), and the share of the higher earner’s income that goes to supporting the family vastly declines vs. before the divorce.
/r/MensRights24/06/24 11:10 PM
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Firstly, the primary caregiver is compensated for sacrificing their career by being the primary caregiver. Do you think the person who’s giving up their life for the kids should do that for free? Secondly, men check out of marriage just as often as women- they just don’t file the paperwork.
/r/MensRights24/06/24 11:07 PM
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Sooo… marriage without financial coercion isn’t worth it for most men?
/r/MensRights24/06/24 11:01 PM
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When I had a job in the ED, I saw a lot of teenage women trying to kill themselves around the beginning of the school year, and a lot of middle aged men trying to kill themselves around the holidays.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:45 PM
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Most men end up paired up, so women ultimately compromise to get the things that are more important to them. Same/same with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:43 PM
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If a supermodel marries a big fat guy, I’m going to assume that he’s exceptional in some other area, and I’m also going to think more of her for valuing things other than appearance despite her career.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:41 PM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:40 PM
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snort What, and men don’t start out pursuing supermodels, too? Why is it that every single guy has a story about being rejected by the prettiest girl in school? *It’s because they ALL tried to get with her, and she wouldn’t be the top girl if she dated more than one of y’all at once. In my high school, that made for about 599 guys whining about how picky and ‘hypocritical’ women are, because they couldn’t get the top girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:40 PM
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Firstly, I strongly doubt that women in Thailand are all demanding a guy 6’ or over, which is what you imply using the global definition. Iirc the average height in the US is more like 5’10”, which is acceptable for most women- which brings me to my second point, that most men DO end up in monogamous relationships. Of course everyone wants the best person they can pull, which means that everyone starts out asking for the equivalent of a Johnny Kim or a Kendall Jenner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:35 PM
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The data do not support your claims wrt dieting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:28 PM
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Average to average. Demanding an average person date a below average pardon is hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:27 PM
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Average to average. This is not rocket science… Besides which, I did date a guy shorter than myself when I was dating. The problem with him was the alcoholism, not the height.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:22 PM
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I don’t downvote you, and I said you’re not a great catch because 1)you’re a fuckboi, by your o n admission, and 2)you want a woman who is smaller, younger, less experienced, and who has fewer resources than you, so that you can feel dominant and have control in the relationship. By your own descriptions of yourself and what you want, you want someone submissive, not an equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 07:33 AM
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I am average height for a woman, married to a man of slightly higher than average height. I lucked out on that, but his height wasn’t among the considerations before I met him (he put 2 inches shorter than his actual height on his dating profile). It’s not hypocritical for a woman of average height to want a man of average height.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 07:30 AM
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See my response to the other guy who asked rhetorical question same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 07:27 AM
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Yes, a lot of that sounds hypocritical. And it sounds like you’re not much of a catch because of the hypocrisy. And, for the record, I’m a white woman married to an American man of Chinese descent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:08 AM
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A woman who is average height for a woman can want a man who is average height for a man. A woman of average fitness for a woman can want a man of average fitness for a man. A woman of average wealth can want a man of average wealth. Or anyone can decide one trait is more important than others for them, and look for someone above average in some areas but below average in others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:06 AM
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That’s not what hypocrisy is. Hypocrisy is saying that you will not date a fat and/or unattractive woman when you, yourself, are fat and unattractive. Or saying that you won’t date a woman with a high body count when you’re a fuckboi. Or expecting a woman to have the look of someone who spent 2 hours getting ready when you won’t comb your own hair or wash your own ass. If you add that you complain about her ‘taking too long to get ready,’ it’s abusive as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:07 AM
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Standards are fine. Hypocrisy is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:27 AM
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Anecdotes != data. As far as antidepressants, men tend to off themselves more. So there’s that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:53 PM
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I’m naturally monogamous and married. I think a marriage is a bit more than pinky swearing. Some women, just like some men, are more naturally monogamous than others. I have never been interested in cheating, so it has never taken any effort on my part.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:38 PM
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If men want respect, they shouldn’t act like helpless children incapable of adulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:22 PM
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No, they really can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:50 AM
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Annnnnnd now you’re strawmanning. You seem to be incapable of arguing in good faith, so I’m out.
/r/MensRights17/06/24 08:11 PM
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First you say it’s not bad enough to justify not enlisting, then you say it’s not real because it can’t be that bad. I’m using * the military’s own reporting.* And yeah, being sexually assaulted by a superior officer isn’t a ‘victim mindset,’ it’s actually victimization.
/r/MensRights17/06/24 07:25 PM
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Heh. While I do enjoy that blood sport at times, that’s not why I said that. I seriously considered enlisting in the coast Guard at one point, even sought out and talked to a recruiter, but it was soon enough after Tailhook that I dismissed the idea pretty quickly (the Navy is not the same thing, I’m well aware, but the higher levels of administration merge).
/r/MensRights17/06/24 07:17 PM
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The prospect of serving one’s country is a lot more awful if you can’t even trust the people on your own side.
/r/MensRights17/06/24 07:14 PM
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Ever wonder why I keep on posting here, even when I know I’m going to get downvoted?
/r/MensRights17/06/24 07:10 PM
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https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/09/01/sexual-assaults-female-troops-reach-highest-level-more-decade.html?amp It’s >8% of women per year, which isn’t a majority, but sure as fuck is enough to give other women pause. We talk to each other, you know?
/r/MensRights17/06/24 07:09 PM
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Maybe if we can get male soldiers to stop raping female soldiers, and also raping each other, more women would be ok with the idea.
/r/MensRights16/06/24 06:47 PM
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That’s kind of what learning and maturing is for all humans, and men aren’t any different.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 07:09 AM
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Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:42 AM
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WTELF are we supposed to do? We offer therapy: “No.” We offer time with friends: “No.” We offer shelter: “No.” We offer sobriety: “No.” We offer medication: “No.” So tell me, WTF are women supposed to do? Pity fucks for homeless, drug-addicted, suicidal men? Because, while they might actually accept that, It won’t make them live longer and will only increase the total misery in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:38 AM
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People give plenty of fucks about men’s issues, but men smoke more, drink more, eat more red meat, drive motorcycles more, drive cars more recklessly, etc. That is not women’s fault, and any time anyone suggests that men take some responsibility, the men who do those things claim it’s somehow intrinsic to masculinity to be stupid and short-sighted. Soft bigotry of low expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 07:52 AM
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How about men stop doing stupid shit? Why should women be penalized because men want to smoke, drink, eat red meat, and ride motorcycles?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 07:51 AM
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Women tend to live longer than men, because men take more stupid risks. Is that unearned privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 07:08 AM
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This is the bestselling kindle romance from 2023: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61718053-happy-place Edit: or best rated? I’m not sure of the metric ‘Goodreads’ uses. Best 2022: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58690308-book-lovers?from_choice=true Best 2021: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54985743-people-we-meet-on-vacation?from_choice=true
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:56 AM
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This isn’t wrong. There are a lot of really bad romance novels out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 06:15 PM
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A lot of ‘romance’ novels are written by men, and aren’t very romantic. They need to read romance that is actually popular with the demographic of women that they want to appeal to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 06:14 PM
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I don’t think having ‘racial preference’ is racist, I think calling anyone ‘low value’ because of their race is racist and stupid. One of my classmates was a brilliant, petite, beautiful black woman who had a PhD but was in school with me because she wanted a 9-5 job instead of research after she got married and had a kid. Thinking she was ‘low value’ because most white guys are afraid of brown skin and openly spoken opinions is stupid, and frankly their loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 05:43 PM
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The fact that people won’t say harsh things face-to-face doesn’t mean that they’re lying, it means that face-to-face interactions elicit more compassion and sympathy than online ones. We are hardwired to mesh emotionally with the people in front of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:36 AM
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You won’t even read the response, and you accuse me of arguing in bad faith🙄 You appear to be unclear on the concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:17 AM
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I said that I’ve heard other women say that they’re not attracted to men of his race, and then you called him “low value.” So yeah. Racist as fuck. Also, women choosing to be alone rather than to be with men they don’t want is the opposite of self-sabotage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:37 AM
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I’m not citing studies because it’s litieral common sense No, it’s not. You’re just making a raw assertion now that what you believe to be true must be true because it makes sense to you, personally. How do u expect me to get a study for common sense? I don’t. I expect you to get the study that you claimed exists. Women legit go after the same type of guy bro No, we don’t. Or, rather, we tend to have different types, so we’re only in competition with the other women who like our types. The girls…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:35 AM
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Asking about a person’s job is a good way of asking about their personality. Doctors and lawyers, for example, both earn similar money, but they tend to draw very different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:23 AM
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1)they said this before I was dating him. 2)I disagree that being a certain race makes anyone ‘low value’ but I am unsurprised that a terp would think so. 3)IDGAF about what racists think. 4)exactly my point. With that many men competing for that few women, we can pick the top guys with very little competition from other women. Men, on the other hand, are constantly whining that they have to send hundreds of messages to get a single response. Before I met my husband, do you have any idea how muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:21 AM
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1)that does not jibe with my lived experience. 2)studies? Cite them. 3)data>anecdotes https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/ Quote: “ The “most attractive” women receive five times as many messages as the average female does, with 2/3 of all male messages going to the top 1/3 of women. And women tend to favor the most attractive men, though the ratio is less extreme.” 4)many ‘top’ men (Bezos, Gates, et all) were able to reach the top because they had wives managing everythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:15 AM
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Men don’t have a history, afaik, of unconsented and unnecessary medical exams being done on them while they are unconscious, or procedures that will cause lifelong pain done to them without consent. https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/more-than-3-5-million-patients-given-pelvic-exams-without-consent-study-estimates-193321541876 https://www.health.com/condition/pregnancy/what-is-a-husband-stitch
/r/MensRights13/06/24 03:02 AM
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Teeeeheeee ur so funnnnnnny abduction and slavery (and, actually, murder by dehydration, and potentially by starvation depending on the person’s underlying condition) is sooo coool dudddde 1)not all women like the same men. I’ve heard women say that they are totally uninterested in men of my husband’s race, but I think he’s totally hot. Likewise, friends have proudly shown me pictures of their spouses, and the guys were totally not my type. 2)there are literally like 7 dudes for every 3 women, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 02:54 AM
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1)mate competition exists in all people. 2)The existence of mate competition does not, by itself, make a competitor anyone’s ‘worst enemy.’
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 02:23 AM
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Different people, male or female, get different levels of oxytocin from sex. More oxytocin = more bonding. Not everyone is cut out to be monogamous, and not everyone is cut out to be casual. Neither way is ‘wrong,’ but people should go with those who match them in commitment level.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:10 PM
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Hahahhahhahahaha Goddamn, terps are so bad at insults. I bet you put balls on your gas-guzzling pickup truck that you use to commute, to make you feel more manly and logical 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:38 PM
5

It’s not “illogical” for a woman, regardless of what she looks like, to end up with a man whom YOU do not find attractive, if he checks all of the most important boxes for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:50 PM
1

He refers to “us men” in one post, so, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:31 AM
2

Yes, exactly. Be single. Be serene and comfortable. Have your house, your pets, and your garden taken care of exactly as you wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:30 AM
5

Go to therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:31 AM
-1

Yes. Women are females, but females are not necessarily women. That is my point. If you can’t see why that’s a problem, especially in the context of ‘men and females,’ I don’t think any education I can provide would help you.
/r/MensRights10/06/24 01:19 AM
0

8 is not the same thing as 6, even though 8 contains 6.
/r/MensRights09/06/24 05:51 PM
2

I haven’t personally seen people called out for using ‘females and males.’
/r/MensRights09/06/24 04:37 AM
1

It tells me that society thinks women need protection from men, but not the converse. I wonder why🤔
/r/MensRights08/06/24 11:10 PM
4

That would be equally problematic, but it’s almost never seen except as a deliberate point about the former.
/r/MensRights08/06/24 09:36 PM
-2

The problem isn’t ‘male’ or ‘female,’ it’s ’men and females.’ For example: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/s/AIAgJLtFgd https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/s/BfBRlKuErG https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/s/50BI9s4jsu https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/s/VdkFSpoYQv https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/s/WxnWWQxar6
/r/MensRights08/06/24 08:33 PM
-49

Are you familiar with the concept of a Venn diagram?
/r/MensRights08/06/24 08:31 PM
1

Same reason men do. The cost of not driving is higher than the cost of doing so. It’s virtually required to live in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 04:01 AM
2

Same reason other folks don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:20 AM
1

Worked for my husband🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:29 PM
2

Small probability, extremely high impact
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:28 PM
1

So was I.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:19 PM
2

These women are going to date the best guys that they can get, with heavier weights on the qualities that they find the most important, just like men do. If they can’t find a man who makes their life better than them living alone, they won’t date. For some women, the occasional loneliness is more than worth it for the serenity. For others, it’s not. This is not rocket science🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:18 PM
3

There is more to moving, and moving in with someone, than the distance. JFC, you’re belittling her desire to hold onto joy. And, fuck, walkability is HUGE.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:34 AM
4

Elderly single women will be fine. They will have their cats and/or dogs, their investments, and their homes. They can be the cool aunt and leave everything to their nieces when they die.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:32 AM
3

https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2013/06/19/193493225/the-love-that-dared-not-speak-its-name-of-a-beetle-for-a-beer-bottle
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:29 AM
11

This. There are incels who are objectively cute, but they’re also incels because they repel any woman who gets within 10 feet of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:24 AM
10

News flash: the market is a market. What you get is what you are worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:22 AM
3

He works half-time at a minimum wage job so that he can spend all of his time at the gym working off the six pack he drinks every night, has no schooling past high school (except for conspiracy theories off of google) and lives with four housemates in a 3 bedroom house, but the chubby girl with a bachelor’s and the start of a career won’t respond to his “Wassup, hoe” greeting on tinder. Women are so delusional. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:20 AM
11

That is not a small issue. That is a major life decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:16 AM
5

😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:13 AM
3

Yeah, no thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:43 AM
10

‘Why is it smiled upon when someone changes for the better, but frowned upon when someone changes for the worse?’ 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:00 AM
1

First of all, ‘attractive and fit’ for a 40 year old man is not ‘attractive and fit’ for a 21 year old man. For the few younger men who give a chance to older men, it is NOT because they’re as physically attractive, much less more physically attractive, than younger men. It’s because they’re significantly less stupid, significantly less horny, better at self control, and have more resources. ‘Attractive and fit’ means ‘not revoltingly decrepit.’ Secondly, what I am talking about is the experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:01 AM
1

What is it you are trying to accomplish, here?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 08:10 PM
1

Your mother was abusive. Your failed childhood is not a good metric by which to measure appropriate behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 08:10 PM
1

No, it was genuinely awful. I didn’t have men start following me until I was 15 or 16, but it started for my niece when she was 12. It’s fucking disgusting. The first time it happened to me, I was walking my dog in the park and this dude my dad’s age came up and asked if he could talk to me. I assumed he was one of my friend’s dads and had recognized me from school somehow, and had a message to me from her… I couldn’t figure out why he didn’t get to the point and just tell me what homework she n…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 06:54 PM
1

I don’t doubt that some young women find some older men attractive, particularly when the age gap is small. But pretty much all of us have stories of men our father’s ages creeping on us before we even hit puberty. My niece had men panting after her when she was 12. I had 60-something’s trying to get with me in my 20’s. It’s fucking disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 06:48 PM
1

On a dating app? Possibly. IRL? I seriously doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:18 AM
1

Anyone not independently wealthy, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:17 AM
1

Hahahhahahahhahahha Wow, dude. Really? You think men are never dependent on people they despise? Have you gone outside lately?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 01:56 AM
1

Some men will fuck anything that moves. Pride is not an element.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:49 PM
1

Women do not ignore or leave “perfectly acceptable” men. If they were ‘perfectly acceptable,’ they would have been accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:48 PM
0

snort just say that you have nothing. It means the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:47 PM
3

Yes, yes, I do. Older men are gross to younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:46 PM
1

Except that there is: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/MhY19j8qx1 Women’s ratings were skewed, but they messaged the median quartile the most; men’s ratings were standard, but they messaged the top quartile the most. The numbers, btw, were taken from a time when the target was informed if you had rated them in the top quartile, and a lot of women stopped rating men that way in order to browse on silent mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:38 PM
6

The fact that some men will fuck anything, up to and including animals, is not a point in men’s favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:35 PM
1

Don’t pretend to be stupider than you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:32 PM
1

I think you posted that in the wrong place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:24 PM
7

I’ve met a few older women who genuinely are distraught over the loss of their looks, and jealous of younger women, but most of us are extremely protective because we remember how awful it was to have dudes panting after us All. The. Fucking. Time. Who wouldn’t take ‘no’ for an answer and wouldn’t or couldn’t register our discomfort and fear, or who actually enjoyed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:22 PM
1

Or who is capable of at least tamping down her revulsion long enough to get through sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:19 PM
1

He was doing free online counseling. He’s open with his feelings and able to express himself. He’s self-aware. He sounds like a good human being. Good for them both.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:18 PM
3

You KNOW there are plenty of het men who would suck Elon off (‘No Homo!’ though) for a chance to hang out with him. The fandom for that guy is unreal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:13 PM
0

She was looking for someone with deep compatibility. She didn’t want to end up with someone she loathed, whom she would end up divorcing. Why is that a bad thing? Just because she wouldn’t fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:12 PM
1

See also, ‘women should choose better men! Women only date assholes!’ /s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:10 PM
1

Hahahahhahahhahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:09 PM
4

You’re projecting. Just admit that you want to suck Elon off and you’re sad he’s not gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:04 PM
2

No amount of money would make it comfortable to live with that chud.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:02 PM
0

Because men think with their dicks, ‘trophy wife’ is a known, historic, and acceptable profession for women (see also: anyone married to a Trump). Now that more men are coming out as gay, and more women are wealthy, we’re seeing trophy husbands as well. Not to mention all of the stanning for Elon by cishet men who think he’s a GeNiUs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:01 PM
1

Not always, no. Some dudes have good hearts but are just awkward AF and don’t know how to display their own strengths. There’s also a set of people - myself included- who just aren’t attracted to the average guy/gal and have to look really hard for that right person. I literally moved states to find my guy. It’s not someone’s fault that they just haven’t found one of the ones who fit, yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 06:52 PM
2

Sure. If he wants a SAHM with no income of her own, he’s going to be paying for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:12 AM
0

Sort of. Just addressing your grammar, without touching on points I disagree with: I disagree even with the formatting of that statement It's fascinating how women alike are this attached to this modern ideology. Do you mean to say ‘all women alike’? ‘Men and women alike?’ It’s not accurate, and obviously so, either way. It’s also not accurate to call feminism a ‘modern’ ideology. But it's fine and acceptable for women to ignore such things that hold them somewhat accountable as some falsehood. …
/r/MensRights01/06/24 02:17 AM
0

It’s still difficult to tell what you’re trying to say, based on your grammar
/r/MensRights31/05/24 09:29 PM
-2

Wow, multiple logical fallacies and such poor writing that you’re not even saying what you’re trying to say.
/r/MensRights31/05/24 06:10 PM
-5

I agree with your last sentence, but I strongly disagree that we need to ‘stop believing in feminism,’ (I disagree even with the formatting of that statement), and I disagree that it is feminism that is making anyone unhappy or mentally ill.
/r/MensRights30/05/24 11:00 PM
-10

Yep. We’re the problem. Y’all should go your own ways, give up, and completely stop thinking about women.
/r/MensRights30/05/24 10:14 PM
0

Do you know what an anecdote is
/r/MensRights30/05/24 03:30 AM
-1

You didn’t explicitly say it, but men in general say it all the time. Particularly terps and other manospherians.
/r/MensRights30/05/24 02:24 AM
-1

Now look at the types of relationships that land someone in the ED from DV, and which person that generally is.
/r/MensRights29/05/24 05:24 PM
1

IDK if it’s still true, but the joke used to be that a lesbian couple’s second date had a moving van. Gay men, OTOH, fuck at the drop of a hat but are extremely slow to get married; very short engagements, and very young partners, are associated with divorce in heterosexual couples, too.
/r/MensRights29/05/24 05:22 PM
-15

You’re getting triggered by a humor sub, my dude.
/r/MensRights29/05/24 04:59 PM
-3

If women are really the ones so demanding of physical perfection, why are gay men always perfectly groomed and in the gym every day, and gay women always in cargo shorts, ratty tshirts, and with short hair and no makeup?
/r/MensRights29/05/24 04:57 PM
1

Heh. It’s part and parcel of saying anything on this board that isn’t hur-dur-man-good-woman-bad. What’s more annoying is that trying to break the echo chamber automatically, preemptively, gets one banned on other subs for ‘participating in a subversive (or whatever term they use) sub.’ They don’t care if you’re trying to fight the good fight.
/r/MensRights29/05/24 03:16 AM
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And I’m saying that women who just got knocked up by a ONS are a tiny fraction of the actual ‘single mom’ issue. They’re practically nonexistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:07 PM
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Heh. I was probably on OKC for like 5 years when I met mine, but I had my page set to turn off pretty much anyone besides him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:44 AM
0

Female infanticide (feticide, really) is due to boys and men being profoundly more valuable to a family than girls and women.
/r/MensRights28/05/24 12:52 AM
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Soft bigotry of low expectations. No, not all men are incapable of controlling themselves. Not all men go around flinging semen in every direction. Most ‘single mothers’ are women who were married, or at least in LTRs, with the child’s father. Some of them are still in LTRs with the child’s father, but are still legally ‘single.’ If you count the fathers of all of those kids as ‘deadbeats,’ then you’re saying that most men are deadbeats, because the whole ‘80/20’ thing might apply to casual sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:51 AM
2

I’m married to a 1 in 8 million guy, but your attempt at an ad-hominem is noted. You seem to think that only women have sex irresponsibly, and that there was no irresponsible sex prior to 100 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:02 AM
-22

It literally is patriarchy that is causing the gender imbalance
/r/MensRights27/05/24 03:26 AM
4

It’s not unusual practice in countries where this is a thing now. Parents who treat kids as property don’t really give a F what the kid wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:35 PM
4

Sometimes parents will look at who has the best land or the most money, not who is the best match for an individual person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 05:40 AM
13

Men: ‘women aren’t picky enough!’ Also men: ‘women are too picky!’ I think you’re just upset that no one has picked you yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 05:34 AM
5

Yes That’s why philandering was so accepted among men that a dude could brag to his in-laws about his mistresses back when arranged marriages were common. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 05:31 AM
10

Nowadays in western countries not so much, but for a lot of western history, and a lot of more primitive nations now, yes. Literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 05:23 AM
1

Humans are neither rabbits nor wolves. We domesticated both species.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 05:21 AM
1

Sexual selection is, and always has been, a force of nature. Most species do not mate by rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 05:17 AM
1

Can we agree that the worst possible suffering for all sentient beings is bad, and that the greatest possible happiness and satisfaction for all sentient beings would be better than that? Because I think that would be a good starting place for most humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:27 AM
1

Don’t forget the pages and pages and pages of that book on how to properly set up tents, or what animals to sacrifice to cure which disease
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:25 AM
2

Humans are neither salmon nor deer nor chimpanzees.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:22 AM
2

‘Less robust in a war environment’ is not the same as ‘ahistorical.’
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:19 AM
3

One of the biggest factors that statistically correlates with divorce- far more than ‘lots of premarital sex’- is early age of marriage. Another is lack of education. Another is poverty. Another is disrespect between the partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:16 AM
4

Holy excluded center fallacy, Batman!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:11 AM
1

snort I suggest you look at human history and evolution a bit more. Hell, just modern human variation
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:09 AM
10

Yeah, it’s not technically ‘forced’ when a 13 year old girl has to choose between marrying a man her father’s or grandfather’s age, or homelessness
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:04 AM
6

Poor kid.
/r/MensRights25/05/24 07:07 AM
5

Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:44 AM
1

He is not a ‘good guy.’ He’s saying that he would do so, and just assumes that everyone else would, too.
/r/MensRights25/05/24 06:38 AM
2

There was no specification of how the interaction would go. No specification of the aggressiveness, or lack thereof, of either party. No specification of distance. ‘Encounter’ could be anything from, ‘came around a blind corner and ran into them,’ to ‘saw them briefly half a mile away.’ It could be anything from ‘the bear/man didn’t even see me,’ to ‘the bear/man was already attacking me by the time I noticed it.’
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:35 AM
4

That’s… not what women were choosing, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:27 AM
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Women are not a hive mind. The women who want trad husbands are the ones who are more comfortable taking on the majority of the home and child care. The ones who don’t want kids are less likely to care, OR they’re professional trophy wives that you can’t afford. As for a job, yeah sometimes it’s pressure, but statistically a lawyer, an IT guy, and a doctor, are going to have different personalities. A biologist is going to be fun to be around because I’m a biologist; we will enjoy watching the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:17 PM
1

Hmmmm it’s almost like you don’t know what the ‘no true Scotsman’ fallacy is.
/r/MensRights24/05/24 02:50 AM
-2

LOL
/r/MensRights23/05/24 11:59 PM
1

No true Scotsman fallacy
/r/MensRights23/05/24 06:21 AM
1

Nope. Read the actual answers.
/r/MensRights23/05/24 02:25 AM
1

I broke up with a guy I really liked once because he didn’t smell right. Not his fault. Not my fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 06:33 PM
0

Y’all need to look at why women are choosing bear so much. It’s not because they think they’re more likely to survive a bear attack.
/r/MensRights22/05/24 06:30 PM
-2

It would depend on how they were using the argument. In a context like this forum, it’s highly possible. In the context of this thread, the way that I used sex worker’s murder/abuse rate was stolen pain. That was the point. Like the OP, I was NOT saying, ‘these people are suffering, and that’s bad.’ Like the OP, it was ‘you should feel bad because ‘my side’ has it worse.’
/r/MensRights20/05/24 10:14 PM
3

Anyone who idolized Margaret Thatcher has only themselves to blame
/r/MensRights20/05/24 07:26 PM
1

Your post is about how you feel about relationships. If that’s how you feel about relationships, then yes: you absolutely should not be in one, because you won’t get what you want out of it. I disagree that it’s like that for everyone, but for you, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:43 PM
-3

No, it’s not about ‘don’t sweat it,’ it’s about ‘don’t steal other people’s valor and/or pain to puff yourself up.’
/r/MensRights20/05/24 05:41 PM
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Not really either of those things- more of a ‘don’t feel too sorry for yourself, guys, unless you work in logging, fishing, crabbing, or driving.’ I’m guessing that about 95% of the guys on here work the same relatively cushy type of job I do, and are as unaffected by the dangerous men’s jobs as most women are unaffected by the danger of prostitution.
/r/MensRights20/05/24 12:53 AM
-1

Not dealing with racism. Less of the social pressure.
/r/MensRights20/05/24 12:49 AM
0

Do you have data to support that claim?
/r/MensRights19/05/24 07:22 PM
-9

“Ovaryactions” hur hur hur yur so clevrrrr Bet they love u on 4chan
/r/MensRights19/05/24 07:20 PM
-30

https://www.lshtm.ac.uk/newsevents/expert-opinion/sex-work-still-most-dangerous-profession-data-suggests-so
/r/MensRights19/05/24 07:12 PM
-20

I didn’t hear that about the genders, but I did hear it about racial disparities. Minorities did way better and white kids did worse.
/r/MensRights19/05/24 07:09 PM
-54

Maybe because women have better grades, better extracurriculars, better recommendations, etc?
/r/MensRights19/05/24 07:08 PM
9

The apps were all bought out and consolidated into like two giant companies whose entire purpose is to extract as much money out of users as possible, not to actually help people meet. This includes fake/AI (or paid employees) women who chat up men who haven’t had matches in a while, to string them along, and restaurants who pose as attractive people to make ‘dates’ at their restaurant, who are then ‘stood up’ but stay for a single meal anyway. See season 7 of the ‘Land of the Giants’ podcast.
/r/MensRights19/05/24 02:08 AM
1

I have a heavy frame and an athletic build, what you’re calling ‘undesirable,’ and I’ve never had a problem with it. What I’m saying is that pretending that 120 lbs on me is the same as 120 lbs on a finely-framed woman are the same, is either stupidity or ignorance. Hell, my skeleton alone probably weighs twice as much as that of a petite Asian woman of my own height; I can remember comparing wrists with another woman in high school, and hers was literally half the width of mine. I practically s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 11:45 PM
1

I agree that height isn’t all that, but the comparison just does not fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 10:48 PM
1

Maybe in the mind of an weeb, but not physiologically and not to anyone who is around many types of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 09:34 PM
-16

Hahahahhahahahhahhahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhaah
/r/MensRights18/05/24 09:31 PM
-2

Not that it’s relevant here, but since you asked: in most cases it involves a girl old enough to remember, involves removal of such extreme amounts of female anatomy that the girl in question no longer has normally functioning sexuality, and in not-unusual cases results in death at the time and/or increased risk of death in childbirth. If infibulation or castration were as common as type 3 FGM, and occurred in sapient children more commonly than infants, or if male circumcision resulted in the s…
/r/MensRights18/05/24 09:31 PM
-5

The original accusation is that childbirth pain is inadequately mitigated because people don’t care enough about women’s pain. Infant circumcision is inadequately mitigated because people don’t care enough about infant pain, not because those infants are male.
/r/MensRights18/05/24 06:20 PM
-12

He implies it’s some sort of special case. It is not. Infants virtually never get anesthesia for anything done to them, no matter how painful.
/r/MensRights18/05/24 03:47 PM
1

I’ve only ever been tangential to obstetrics, but I can tell you that in some hospitals virtually all of the women are screaming in pain and having horrific experiences, and others are serene and controlled, if urgent, and almost no screaming (except the babies).
/r/MensRights18/05/24 03:46 PM
-2

I’m guessing she’s speaking to a culture of avoiding epidurals, and/or a lack of the anesthesiologists who perform them, in the NHS. The culture really varies significantly from hospital to hospital, at least in the US.
/r/MensRights18/05/24 01:48 AM
-2

Infant anything.
/r/MensRights18/05/24 01:47 AM
5

Epidurals do not affect the infant.
/r/MensRights18/05/24 01:47 AM
1

I’m not attacking you, I’m agreeing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 03:24 AM
1

I think a relationship is probably pointless for you. You’re basically saying you don’t want to put in any effort unless everything is perfect, and seriously, …’raise a mini-me’?! First off, your kid is not your clone. Secondly, they’re going to come into the world in a vastly different environment, so even if they were, they wouldn’t be just like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 05:58 PM
-10

Because boobs are rarely used to do things to other people.
/r/MensRights16/05/24 05:27 PM
4

I have, but it was because I did not understand that he was hitting on me at the time. In retrospect, that bewilderment on my part was probably more humiliating to him than a flat rejection would have been. I’ve also been less than diplomatic with male patients who hit on me at work, including one whose foot was literally rotting off at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 05:23 PM
1

That might be the case in an isolated incident of two people shouting at each other, with no other context, in the US as well. However, look at how a certain famous male tennis player was treated when he regularly had a full-on toddler tantrums on the court, throwing his racquet and screaming, vs. how a certain female tennis player was treated when she once threw up her arms and yelled, iirc, “Come on!” At the referee. Likewise, at work, I have seen men curse, slam cabinets, etc but if a woman d…
/r/MensRights16/05/24 04:56 PM
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You might not say it, but you’d be ignorant. Look at how any woman who raises her voice in frustration is treated, vs. men of similar social standing losing their ever loving shit and facing no consequences for it.
/r/MensRights16/05/24 05:11 AM
-7

The equivalent for men would be a fear/sadness ritual, since men socially aren’t allowed to express fear or sorrow and women aren’t allowed to express anger.
/r/MensRights16/05/24 12:35 AM
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They pretend that they don’t have emotions, and then reverse-justify bad behavior as ‘logical’ to assuage their fragile masculinity. And occasionally just explode violently from things they repress. totally logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:34 PM
4

All humans are emotional, with the pathological nature exception of psychopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 09:48 PM
14

Many men do not realize that they are just as emotional, if not more so, than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:50 PM
4

Have you talked to a lawyer at all? This is what they are FOR. Don’t try to do this alone.
/r/MensRights13/05/24 07:20 AM
1

Because that’s the foundation of feminism, and you’re talking about ending feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:44 AM
2

Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:00 PM
1

FWIW, I’m a feminist who comes here to (almost always) disagree with people. In this case, though, I think it would be absolutely inappropriate. Honestly, I see this (OP) as fantastic news for an issue that is rarely taken seriously enough. I’m actually sympathetic to some men’s rights issues, and I’m well aware that women have privileges in society that men don’t (the largest, in my mind, being that we are almost always assumed to be non-dangerous from the jump. That can be frustrating in some …
/r/MensRights11/05/24 08:38 PM
1

There’s a wide range between ‘humble’ and ‘entitled.’
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 08:32 PM
2

Then you should get off of the internet. Certainly off of Reddit. You seem rather triggered by anyone who disagrees with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 08:31 PM
2

Honestly, look at the data, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 08:31 PM
0

It’s not a matter of ‘the city council not supplying police,’ as I previously noted, it’s cops not giving a shit about most of the crime that happens. And I have never heard of a single “ambush” of police in Portland. I guess I should count us lucky, though- PPB isn’t known for outright theft, like some PDs are.
/r/MensRights11/05/24 02:44 AM
1

What benefits does a man get from marriage? Longer life, better health, more consistency, etc. Why do it? If you don’t want kids, don’t worry about it, but any woman who would deliberately have kids with a dude (unless she was independently wealthy to start with), without the solidity of a marriage, is too stupid to reproduce with. Does the women have to drop 4k on an engagement ring? Does a man? No. My husband and I both bought our own rings. Why am I scared? 50% of them end in divorce, flip a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:36 AM
2

My husband and I eschewed the traditional vows for the most part, but we said our own vows with every intent of being together for the rest of our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:29 AM
6

There are actually a lot of older women who are ok with LTRs but absolutely uninterested in cohabiting or getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:18 AM
3

“His”?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:10 AM
1

Hahahhahahahhahahhahahahhaha
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:09 AM
5

Are you not aware that this is an internet discussion forum?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:07 AM
5

The data does not support your argument from personal incredulity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:06 AM
5

You’re not addressing the point. Why should joint assets NOT be divided jointly?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:57 AM
0

Not really. It makes me sympathetic with the ‘get rid of them’ crowd. WTF are we paying them for? Edit: I mean, seriously. I’m better off with my own gun than calling the police right now, and that’s not the city council’s fault.
/r/MensRights10/05/24 11:14 PM
2

Ok, but ‘dramatically re-working society’ != ending women’s right to vote, work for equal pay, and have their own credit cards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:56 PM
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Yes and yes, but at the same time it solves nothing and benefits no one. The city would be better off if they could just not renew the contract with PPB and find some other law enforcement service.
/r/MensRights10/05/24 09:54 PM
3

That’s true. ‘Unable to post right now. Please try again later.’ 😂
/r/MensRights10/05/24 09:39 PM
1

Technically, no.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/24 08:59 PM
4

They do have a point. How would you feel about a feminist coming onto this thread to complain about men stalking women? It’s possible to have a focus group about one thing. A forum for people with pancreatic cancer does not invalidate people with liver cancer.
/r/MensRights10/05/24 08:51 PM
5

Police never want to do shit about anything, for anyone. The cops in Portland are basically in an ongoing unofficial strike to protest the liberal city councils that keep on being elected by the people of Portland. Cops in NYC have been recorded failing to file reports on actual crime in order to keep their precinct numbers down.
/r/MensRights10/05/24 08:49 PM
1

I know a lot of people who would like to have kids, or would like to have more kids, but can’t afford it. My lab got bought out and at least two co-workers at different sites are now putting off having a kid/having a second kid because they can no longer accrue enough paid time off with the new owner, and can’t afford to take unpaid leave. Humans did not evolve in these little nuclear family islands, and we did not evolve with ‘every man for himself’ libertarianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 06:43 AM
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No, I haven’t noticed that these are the ONLY people who care about it. I certainly cared about it when I was a 16 year old being followed by creepers my father’s age, and the trope of ‘young woman being sold into marriage against her will to a rich old man’ exists in probably a third of historical and/or fantasy in girls’ YA fiction: it’s the first obstacle a girl has to overcome/ the first danger she has to escape. The reason that you hear more about it from older women is that we no longer fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 03:43 AM
3

If you think that’s a hidden point of view, or even an extreme one, you are very out of touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:52 PM
3

So, yeah. Enslavement of half the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:17 PM
6

If the human race can’t survive without enslaving half of its population, it deserves to die out. Chimpanzees naturally have about 6 years between offspring. Humans (not on birth control) average about 3, despite human offspring needing more care. Why do you suppose that is? Edit: to those for whom it is not obvious, I do not think that enslaving half of humanity is necessary for humans to reproduce at replacement level.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:24 PM
1

Or single women. Or the state. Pregnancy and labor are no joke, but what really sucks about child care is the 24-7 burden, especially when they’re very young. I don’t see anything proposed to mitigate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:19 PM
1

Do you live in a small town?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:54 AM
1

Widen your search parameters. Increase your geographic range, especially if you’re in a small town; increase your acceptable age range, height range, don’t limit yourself to your own race, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:14 PM
1

You’re right, I didn’t. Let me guess, a bunch of Hollywood models in bikinis?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 05:33 PM
1

A group of women, hands down.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:17 AM
1

Abortion is always about 15x less likely to kill a woman than gestation to term, labor, and delivery. At roughly what level of suffering, risk of injury, or risk of death do you personally think a woman’s doctor, rather than you or some other politician, should be allowed to make the decision?
/r/MensRights05/05/24 05:57 AM
2

Yes
/r/MensRights05/05/24 05:51 AM
2

It’s harder to extract yourself when you’re legally financially entangled with someone. And it takes legal action, not just ‘I’m leaving.’
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:20 PM
1

I think that the security marriage provides to children, even if its parents divorce after it leaves the nest, makes the institution worthwhile and better than parents who are merely cohabiting boyfriend/girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:10 PM
3

I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:09 PM
5

I agree with everyone else saying that you should probably see a therapist to work out your traumatic history, but also... life is suffering. It isn't so much when you're relatively young and so is everyone around you, but the longer you live, the more loss you will go through. Your parents will die. Your pets will die. Many of your friends will die. Possessions that you treasure will be lost. You have to learn to treasure the seconds that you have.
/r/ExRedPill04/05/24 05:07 AM
11

forcing a victim to go through a trial, when they would rather just leave and be free, is forcing them to suffer to be free. For a more extreme case, look into why women who have been raped often don't want to report it, or don't want to take it to trial.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:05 AM
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FWIW, this isn't as bad in left-wing spaces as in right wing spaces. There just isn't as much gender enforcement. It's still bad, especially for men, don't get me wrong - still unfair - but the level of performative masculinity/femininity that people have to do isn't as extreme.
/r/MensRights04/05/24 03:52 AM
7

Yeah, just look at stories people tell about the 'counseling' they get when they go to fundie pastors about problems with their marriage? 'what did you do to provoke him'? etc
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:30 AM
13

So victims should suffer *more* for the sake of the institution? What good is an institution, if it causes more suffering than good?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:28 AM
2

At-fault divorces are a lot harder than no-fault divorces, even when a good cause can be proven beyond the shadow of a doubt. It's just a much bigger production that is much more expensive, and much harder, to get through.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:27 AM
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This is 90% of my concern, should they be successful. The other 10% is the backfire: a LOT of people would just choose to not get married, and be permanent boyfriend/girlfriend, even with kids in the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:25 AM
3

The original thought experiment specified in the woods. Part of the reason a random bear in the woods is safer than a random dude in the woods is that the bear doesn’t have to give a fuck about a woman. Humans aren’t their usual food source, humans aren’t sexually interesting to bears, and if she goes her way, the bear will probably go its way too. If you lock the bear in a small cage with a human and no other resources, the calculation might change.
/r/MensRights02/05/24 06:16 PM
3

You know those dudes on social media 1)often don’t own the cars they’re posing with, and 2)often are paying the women they’re posing with, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:11 PM
2

I went for nearly 10 years between about 25 and 35. Just me, my cat, and my dog. Very peaceful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:54 PM
3

Argument from personal incredulity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:52 PM
3

He chose it rather than chemical castration
/r/MensRights28/04/24 10:16 PM
3

If you read the article, it notes that the criminal can “elect,” or choose for himself, physical rather than chemical castration.
/r/MensRights28/04/24 10:15 PM
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No, because not everyone is equally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:35 PM
6

I honestly don’t think that is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:31 PM
2

Elon isn’t exactly …normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:20 PM
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Every time I read those statements, I read, ‘I want all women to find me, personally, as attractive as I find them, and only then will there be equity.’ And technically that’s true… but I’m not sure that it’s equity that we should strive for in this instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:45 PM
5

So, I felt the same way for a long time. My mom has bad taste in men: she’s been married and divorced …4 times? Plus a few other serious LTRs. So I was super skittish of even dating for a long time. What really opened me up was the example of my sensei and his wife, who have been married for decades and clearly still like each other. Like, when we’re in social settings, they’ll choose to set next to each other, and tell stories together, and talk each other up. It’s this amazing, eye-opening dis…
/r/ExRedPill26/04/24 06:28 PM
1

If you look at the same OKC data set, without the ratings cherry-picked out, it includes who messages whom: men selectively message the top women with a strong skew, and women message the median in an even bell- shaped curve. But manosphere influencers never want to include that part. Both sexes, when they are looking to pair-bond, want the best partner they can get. That’s why you don’t see incels pairing up with femcels.
/r/MensRights26/04/24 06:09 PM
-2

That’s from an OKC data set where people were notified when someone ranked them in the highest tiers. A lot of women wanted to remain stealth and therefore didn’t rank any men as top or second tier.
/r/MensRights26/04/24 06:16 AM
2

Exile = death for most of human history. Wanting to fit in with the tribe, and wanting a man who fits in with the tribe, have been basic human survival for as long as there have been humans. Even now, when it’s possible to survive alone, it is neither pleasant nor ideal for most people; many of us will go nuts and start talking to volleyballs in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:32 AM
0

How many of those men are taking care of children? How many are older, or disabled? You can’t just carte-blanch send people who aren’t cut out to be fighters to the front lines. Ukraine would have better (if awful) results by emptying their prisons of violent felons, like Russia is doing.
/r/MensRights26/04/24 03:09 AM
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Wow. The opposite of science.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 11:08 AM
6

I’m going the DINK route.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:54 AM
1

Are they actually going full blow for blow against you or are they holding back? Firstly, it wasn’t karate or boxing but ‘hard’ aikido. Secondly, It’s uke’s responsibility to get out of the way at my dojo, so if I got hit in the face it was my fault, not theirs. I just imagine most of those guys don’t want to/won’t go full tilt against a woman. Some of the newbies are reluctant at first, but once they get hit a couple of times they’re usually happy to give it back. I did spend a lot of time tell…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:48 AM
0

99th percentile in the GRE verbal reasoning/ 98 writing, iirc. That was the most recent test. Not an IQ test, but it still fits the question you asked. I can see how your interpretation fits what was written above, but I don’t think my interpretation (one man vs one test) was unreasonable. Nice circle jerk you have going there, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:20 AM
1

Oh, I absolutely have resting bitch face at work, and reply to patients coldly, because some patients take even a shred of professional courtesy as an invitation to sexually approach. Nothing like being hit on by a guy whose foot is literally rotting off from unmanaged diabetes. And yeah, I do feel totally justified in trying to limit unwanted come-ons from patients. I also wore a fake wedding ring before I got married. It cut out the semi-decent horn dogs, which was some relief, but the most re…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:10 AM
-1

Women are defending the country in Ukraine. Not as many as men- because they’re the ones caring for kids, if there are kids- but some. Modern arms are a great equalizer in all but the closest of combat.
/r/MensRights24/04/24 03:56 AM
1

A woman, because men are so used to being intimidating to women (physically, if for no other reason) that it’s unremarkable to them, or even considered a plus by many.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 03:54 AM
2

I fall more in love with my husband every year. I guess that means that I didn’t love him as much when we got married as I do now. So, yes…? But not in the way that you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 08:16 PM
1

In the sense that I got hit in the face as much as they did? Sure. That’s what I wanted: real training. In the sense that you’re implying? Some of them, probably. Others, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 08:11 PM
1

😂 sure, sure. I don’t think that means what you think it means. Let me guess, you think ‘goddidit’ is the “simplest” explanation?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 08:09 PM
0

Oddly, I have never had a woman tell me that I am intimidating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:04 PM
1

“…none of them {men} are showing romantic interest.” That wasn’t meant to be a ‘you’ll die alone if you don’t change your ways,’ threat? My mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:03 PM
-2

No, you just said “every single one.” And when I can easily throw a guy 50% bigger than me, when he’s trying knock me down by sheer strength, followed by him telling me he’s intimidated, when virtually no conversation has taken place, I don’t think I’m off base to think it has to do with my skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 06:58 PM
2

shrug ID care about you enough to be disturbed by the idea that you might not believe me. And “what” is them saying, “you are intimidating,” using that word. Either once or twice it was ‘ “kind of” intimidating,’ once it was ‘“really” intimidating.’ As for how sure I am what it was, I ask an intelligent question in class, guy looks at me and says I’m intimidating. Guy comes into my workplace, sees my lab coat, looks me up and down, eyes bug out, says I’m intimidating. I tell him I’m not a doctor…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 06:55 PM
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Or, how about this: no wars, and no forcing women to spawn cannon fodder for the wars? Or maybe have terms of enlistment for both parents: she’s the primary parent for 4 years, then he is, then she is, then he is, then the kid is off.
/r/MensRights23/04/24 06:46 PM
2

Oh, simple! Just enslave half of the population! No problem!
/r/MensRights23/04/24 06:28 PM
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