boughtfreedom Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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3	Why women lose the dating game this realization has made my stomach turn for a few months now. It's all so... fickle. I see this reaction from men more often than women. I wonder if women are aware of it much earlier in life and basically have learnt to deal with the dissonance between genuine human interaction and love and the way we relentlessly rank one another in choosing who to interact with (in friendship as well as mating).	/r/seduction	26/10/13 07:47 AM
8	Why women lose the dating game All you see are opportunities. You need to thin down the herd of choices so you start filtering people out. Start with [looks]; You now have 4 candidates, BAM . Just like that. You've still a problem though. Those 4 candidates are also on the list of a bunch of other partners similar to you, and you just ruled out 80% of your other candidates. Competition is now flipped, and fierce. From abundance comes scarcity. Do you reconsider? Nope. Brain doesn't work that way. You've seen something better,…	/r/seduction	26/10/13 06:46 AM
4	Why women lose the dating game Yeah, it actually works better as advice on how to function successfully as a career-focused woman - stop looking for guys who earn more than you. There are plenty of guys who are physically attractive, fun, good long term partners but happen to earn less. TBH I think the pool of women the article is referring to is going to shrink rapidly as women realise that dating down in income/job status actually works fine, and as less stigma is attached to relationships like that. (I am sortof in one mys…	/r/seduction	26/10/13 06:40 AM
1	Solipsism Yeah, I'm getting a bit over spermjackalope. I actually intended to reply to that thread about rhetoric, but I must have closed the tab and forgotten about it. That was the first time I thought.... just admit you're wrong! It's in the fucking dictionary as a derogatory usage without any need for an adjective! How much more wrong do you need to be? All those people upvoting her would upvote anything that they feel is on the 'right side' and uses some clever words.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/13 09:43 PM
3	Solipsism The word choice only makes the statement tautological if you pick the wrong meaning from her words. Clearly, you understood the right meaning. So what's the point of picking at it? It's very cheap. I'm sure someone could go through your posts and find some that weren't perfectly worded but were perfectly comprehensible. edit: and your examples are disingenuous. We simply don't have multiple meanings of 'rich' and 'dangerous' in the same way we use attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/13 12:58 AM
2	Solipsism Finding someone physically attractive does not necessarily mean being personally attracted to them (for example, I can find many women to be physically attractive, even though I am straight). I suppose it's because we often use 'physically attractive' to mean more like 'pretty' rather than literally drawing us towards someone. It is a very common usage of the term. And saying that you are attracted to good-looking people is definitely not meaningless in the context of talking about features of m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/13 12:09 AM
4	"Women are the gatekeepers of sex. Men are the gatekeepers of commitment." I would have said men but then I started reading /r/sex a lot. Probably not representative of the whole population but plenty of women who were the partner wanting more sex in their relationship, kinda changed my view. But I think it's not talked about as much in real life because there is a stigma for a guy admitting he has a low libido. 'Every person/couple is different' sounds like the most useful approach to me....	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/13 12:50 PM
7	"Women are the gatekeepers of sex. Men are the gatekeepers of commitment." Or maybe they're afraid of being seen as slutty or desperate? The fear of being labeled desperate is the biggest hurdle from what I've seen. I also suspect the social script that tells us 'men are meant to approach lots of women and get rejected' makes it a bit easier to deal with that rejection, in light of the fact that rejection is pretty much one of the shittiest feelings ever. The view of people like insultsbythepound, which is actually still the prevalent view of society, that women have t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/13 12:42 PM
3	Solipsism Well I don't think it's inappropriate to use anecdotes when the attempt is to combat universal statements (all women like...) rather than to establish them. But in some way he was right to take issue with your use of universal statements. But either way, your use of anecdotes =/= you think the world revolves around you. I'd also like to mention that his use of the word tautology is obviously incredibly stupid, what you wrote is not a tautology at all. Maybe it's not worth trying to engage intell…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/13 12:15 PM
5	Solipsism I really don't see how this is 'solipsism', it's just confusing anecdotes with proper evidence, and it goes on a ton in TRP as well, where it is arguably less defensible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/13 03:37 AM
6	Token Resistance Thanks, I read it. I think we're talking about different timescales here, your reply is more about a relationship timescale. I definitely think if you want sex in a relationship and it's not happening, it's appropriate to withdraw from that relationship (but more for your own sake than to 'deny' the other person, because emotional support takes effort and time you need for yourself). (I really dissent with the tone of the gatekeeping thing - that all men and women always want certain things - bu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/13 08:51 AM
3	Token Resistance Maybe she gets a bit carried away but according to your own sub that should be no justification for using shaming language....	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/13 08:10 AM
5	Token Resistance You just blanked someone out for no reason (assuming something like that is what you mean by withdrawing emotional intimacy) and I think that is morally suspect. If you think sexual strategy is amoral then we are simply not going to agree here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/13 08:09 AM
1	Token Resistance By making someone realize that they really did want the physical intimacy after all, and they come back?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/13 07:29 AM
3	Token Resistance Did you read my comment? There is no point sleeping with a woman who is only after emotional intimacy. It's the fact she secretly wants sex that is the point of LMR strategies, in my understanding.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/13 07:15 AM
2	Token Resistance I know where you're coming from, but I think you'd be better off just stating (and doing) a freezeout on physical intimacy, but not 'emotional' (whatever you actually mean by that). Isn't the point that she really does want to have sex with you because women are sexual beings too, and her sexuality will draw her back, not her need for emotional intimacy?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/13 04:36 AM
2	Nature Versus Nurture Ah yeah, I just realised I remembered the lipid hypothesis wrong and it's only about the connection between cholesterol and heart disease. So there are two broken links between your diet and heart disease - dietary fat relating to plasma cholesterol, and then what influence plasma cholesterol has on heart disease. And then there's the different dietary fats and plasma cholesterols. I follow a similar diet to you FWIW and have found my HDL increased slightly but LDL decreased or the same. it's ki…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/13 04:28 AM
15	Solipsism I can understand the basis of most RP theories, but this one has always confused me. I'd like to just get out of the way that it is used in a very nasty, one-sided way in TRP - outsiders are immediately accused of solipsism, while insiders are allowed to write essays about how their inner changes have affected those around them and vice versa. Anecdotes that support TRP are not condemned for solipsism, anecdotes that don't support it are. That aside, I'm not sure what the mechanism is for this t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/13 04:10 AM
8	Token Resistance To be clear, I would never consider myself a redpiller. You guys have created a concept whereby being insulted by women is a test that you have to overcome, so I'm not entirely convinced that this is a good guideline for red pillers to follow. Well this cuts to the heart of what will always be problematic about internet love advice. There is a fine line being teasing someone playfully in flirting, teasing someone meanly but being impressed by their response, and flat out insulting someone becaus…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/13 04:07 AM
5	Token Resistance Because people are complicated and don't say what they mean, most of the time? How do you distinguish between token rejection and actual rejection? He explained it pretty clearly. If she's still flirting and continuing to touch, whatever, it's not a real rejection.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/13 03:50 AM
1	Nature Versus Nurture I actually kinda agree with you about lipids, so I'd like to point out that the scientific consensus and the weight and strength of evidence in nutritional science has never been nearly as good as that surrounding climate change.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/13 03:40 AM
-2	Apprentice finalist: 'I hate feminists' I guess your definition of feminism is also useless then, as it is without objective justification? Luisa Zimmerman is definitely using the same definition as you. But I happen to think it's wrong to describe all feminists as extremists, as it is wrong to describe all Muslims as terrorists. Some of them are. But what are the rest meant to call themselves if you make Muslim a dirty word? It's a stupid, careless way to use language. The problem with letting that word be used only by extremists and…	/r/TheRedPill	18/07/13 07:45 AM
0	Apprentice finalist: 'I hate feminists' I wouldn't say so. Most feminists are fairly socialist. Historically, there has been a lack of acknowledgement of less privileged women, but this has changed in the last 10 or 20 years. Thankfully, improvements like equal access to school for women have benefited the poor as much, if not more than, the rich women so the impact of feminism has still been positive for the poor.	/r/TheRedPill	18/07/13 06:43 AM
-5	Apprentice finalist: 'I hate feminists' Yes. They were exceptions to the rule. There were hundreds of men in similar positions and only the exceptionally talented women could get anything done. All of those women were also born into wealthy, educated families (with the possible exception of McClintock) and had opportunities denied to the 90%+ of women who weren't part of the upper class. Tell me those women on the Apprentice were exceptionally talented or born into privilege. They weren't. They're just moderately talented, incredibly …	/r/TheRedPill	18/07/13 04:51 AM
-11	Apprentice finalist: 'I hate feminists' And yet without feminism, these women would never have held significant jobs outside the home and been able to get to these positions. Truly short-sighted and emblematic of the poor state of history education.	/r/TheRedPill	18/07/13 02:23 AM
1	what men are really attracted to...it's not just curves, it's having a "tight" body profile... which on a deeper level reveals a cultural "fear of chaos". It's normally spelled spanx which causes less disappointment!	/r/RedPillWomen	17/07/13 08:14 AM
2	what men are really attracted to...it's not just curves, it's having a "tight" body profile... which on a deeper level reveals a cultural "fear of chaos". Awesome thank you. (I think most people here are just not comfortable with this level of theory). Although to be honest, cellulite is something that typically only women notice and men don't give a shit about. Probably because it's natural - I was reading about this the other day - and just a result of the skin's mesh being shaped differently in some women and letting fat form 'bubbles'. But that is still entirely in accordance with your theory - often it is women who fear their own bodies as mu…	/r/RedPillWomen	17/07/13 12:13 AM
1	Furious oneitis It sounds like her attraction to you is what's making this positive for you, not your 'oneitis' attraction to her.... Just don't let it be all your confidence is based on. her displays of inner and outer beauty Now imagining this girl as a peacock flapping her labia at you. Ahem. I'll just go.	/r/seduction	12/05/13 09:09 AM
2	Furious oneitis Or attract her +++ by fucking her best friend.	/r/seduction	12/05/13 09:06 AM
2	How do I know in which league I am? Definitely XFL, you ain't going to cut it in the big league.	/r/seduction	12/05/13 09:01 AM
-1	"Practice" Girls - Good Practice or Bad Habit? Read a wise comment on here today that seduction should not be viewed as a game with opponents, but a way to connect with people.... or the opposite of opposing.... something to think about before making boxing analogies.	/r/seduction	12/05/13 08:53 AM
1	The "prude" trick No, I don't think you do, don't get me wrong, it just reminded me of guys I knew. Just a funny coincidence. Yeah, a word that reminds me less of 'prune' is going to slip more easily from my mouth ... fucking hate prunes. EDIT: it may be because you used the word 'we', even though I assume you mean you and your buddy running your separate game, it comes off like you're teasing a girl together which is more like bad situations I remember.	/r/seduction	12/05/13 04:51 AM
3	The "prude" trick Yeah, this just reminds me of college and guys basically harassing very young, innocent girls with this sort of stuff (especially in team sport hazing) until they slept with someone. Something about the way you wrote it. But among adults, may be good in moderation. A bit obvious though. I've always preferred the game where you tell a girl how sexual she is - 'I know you want to go home with me' type stuff.	/r/seduction	12/05/13 03:10 AM
9	[FR] First night out after mutual breakup F-close x2 Nice kino game. I'll borrow that.	/r/seduction	12/05/13 03:00 AM
3	"Practice" Girls - Good Practice or Bad Habit? Morally speaking, indicating attraction to someone you're not attracted to is lying, and a particularly hurtful form of lying. So I assume you're speaking of women you're attracted to, but not the ones you are most interested in. It sounds like you already know how to be dominant and maintain control, you just need to adjust your approach and get used to doing it with more confident women who intimidate you. That will only happen with practice with the hot women. But chat to/flirt with everyone,…	/r/seduction	12/05/13 02:35 AM
1	Billy's Guide to Shit Tests Yeah, it has a sexual energy and teasing quality.	/r/seduction	12/05/13 02:18 AM
119	Billy's Guide to Shit Tests Dance with me, I want to feel like there’s no one in the world but you and me right now. I feel like this whole post is almost closing the loop.... like that line is the corniest, lamest response ever, but apparently if you're a master PUA you can pull it off? I'm confused by your idea of shit tests and your reframes.	/r/seduction	10/05/13 05:16 AM
4	Why are woman attracted to confidence? It is an indicator of reproductive fitness. For humans, there are a few visible/outward indicators, like big muscles or height for physical fitness, and money or high status jobs for your intellect. But there are other dimensions of physical fitness that are not obvious, and a lot of intelligence and social skills/personality/emotional intelligence is difficult to gauge. You really need to see someone in different situations to work him out as a whole. Or you can use the quick, cheat method - wh…	/r/seduction	05/05/13 03:58 AM