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Nice strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 01:37 AM
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Unnegotiable requirements. Romantic and sexual capitalism. A pyramid scheme. You treat people as if they were items to purchase. This is the main reason why incels exist. You can force yourself into being attracted to someone you didn't like initially. It happens so often in real life, because unlike what the internet says, people tend to have preferences and not requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 01:37 AM
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MGTOW has nothing to do with male superiority. It's more about spiritual individualism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:40 AM
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What you call "preference" is actually a deal breaker. That is not the definition of preference.
/r/AntiFeminists31/01/23 08:47 AM
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Preferences are not unnegotiable requirements though. I prefer busty women, but my ex was a B cup, and I didn't care. You can prefer tall men but fall for a short/average man because he has some other characteristics that you value more and so on. When you refuse to have any sort of sexual interaction with someone because he doesn't have a certain particular trait, that isn't a preference. It's an unnegotiable dating requirement. It's dating fundamentalism. And get away with the "it's human biol…
/r/AntiFeminists31/01/23 08:44 AM
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They're all about drinking at parties - I only drink when I'm out with my best friends, I've was about to become an alcoholic in my teens, then I chose a straight edge lifestyle and it literally saved me - having unprotected sex and calling it "raw dawg", reading the same books (when they even read) precisely because they're mainstream, watching the same shows (yes, I've watched Wednesday and I enjoyed it, but for the love of the gods, it's not my favorite Netflix series!), buying the same produ…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 09:04 AM
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Ghouls and djinns
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 07:43 AM
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Psychopaths appeal to women usually because 1: they're good-looking and 2: they know well enough how to feign a nice personality. I know that first hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 10:44 AM
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I'm not. That is just a confirmed process in the development of an embryo. The mother's genes are responsible for height. I really don't care how I look like. Most of the people on this sub (both men and women) are so shallow it's, like you said, hilarious. You're probably one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 08:53 AM
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Well, according to the same website that doesn't mention the researchers who made this experiment, or survey, or whatever that was, the same "psychology website" that doesn't have an impact factor and basically reports studies that may or may not be plausible, being vague enough so that normies can adapt their confirmation biases to them, I may be at a disadvantage next to a 6'4" guy, despite me being lean and practicing calisthenics since five years ago, and martial arts since I was only 6, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 08:27 AM
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It's their usual gaslighting. Don't pay attention to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 08:03 AM
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They did. The mother's genes are the ones responsible for height.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 08:00 AM
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Or weight... You can learn to do a back lever or a muscle up with added weight as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 07:52 AM
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Neither do I.
/r/AntiFeminists18/01/23 04:17 PM
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Not equal, but close to equal, at least nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 11:52 AM
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Lois Lane's character was invented by Jack Kirby. I don't think he's a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 11:49 AM
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This is what most women I know enjoy talking about. I'm an extreme metal vocalist, artist, student and calisthenics enjoyer, I love philosophy, science, history and languages, yet most girls I talk to, even when I'm not at all interested in them sexually and/or romantically, only want to discuss about the thick d*ck they fucked at a party or how many times they threw up and they did ecstasy at a rave, gossip about trash TV formats, talk shit behind their friends' backs and complain about their "…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 11:47 AM
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No. Wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 08:26 PM
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You'd like me, then lmao, even though I see myself as a bag of waste🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 03:55 PM
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They can't say that they are the table, unless they're James Hetfield from Metallica. In that case, you could hear some Yeah's here and there as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 03:49 PM
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Blackpillers believe trust is GIVEN, however, only to those who possess certain innate traits (an idea that comes from material nihilism - the concept of an élite of "chosen" ones with predetermined physical and mental characteristics developed first in ancient Greece, being deeply linked to the idea of "destiny", but acquired the meaning that we give it nowadays only in the 1920's and became a 'positive' concept during the 1970's with transhumanists). I think that if you removed the omnipresent…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 11:27 AM
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In a way lower level, although it did. The fact that it happened before only proves my point even further. Past doesn't mean good, and given that we didn't evolve after 20,000 years, I don't understand why you want to compare the current state of affairs to how it was before.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:51 AM
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It's okay. You can always PM me... When I'm not studying or learning Meshuggah riffs on guitar, I'm available lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:48 AM
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Will get back at it asap. The Penal Code doesn't study itself
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 11:42 AM
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The levels of suicides, war, gun violence and murders may suggest otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 11:23 AM
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I guess you still want to have that competition that will put you in a "higher position"compared to other people. Typical consumeristic approach. Pretty laughable. This is the approach that someone inferior has.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 11:16 AM
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Stop spewing spiteful garbage against a complete stranger. Again, don't judge who you don't know. You just know a Reddit avatar, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 10:50 AM
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>It is literally so normal Not for me. I don't analyze based on how they look like. Perhaps I've been raised very differently compared to you. I don't care how they look like. If anything, I analyze their facial expressions, how they move, the tone of their voice, small details in their way of talking (like inflections and so on). I analyze what can give me precise, reliable and measurable details about how the person behaves in certain settings, and don't tell me that it's "too complex"; I've b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 10:48 AM
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I don't have bad looks, apparently. I have PTSD. My personality is pretty fine, I'm usually a chill dude, but I have an extreme fear of abandonment. When I see someone and I don't know their personality I DON'T GO OFF LOOKS. I simply approach, build confidence, and get to know the person, no matter what they look like. That's what I do. Don't try and normalize clearly maladaptive and dysfunctional behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:27 PM
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That's the product of ignorance. You can't deny that this issue is much less present, even compared to two decades ago. You don't have any new Adolf Hitler, for example. Even the worst kinds of dictators we have nowadays are nowhere near that level. My post literally focuses on what you talked about, not just for the dating world, but also for human interaction in general. You underestimate the power of infancy/childhood imprinting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:24 PM
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You can't negotiate attraction; however, you can force it. It has been tested in controlled environments (laboratories, example situations) both in humans and other mammals. "Brainwashing" a cub, or a toddler (obviously I mean imprinting), during the first years of cognitive development into being more welcoming towards diversity, even romantically, has been proven to decrease the levels of antisociality, thus making them "less picky", in the sense that they were much less discriminatory. It's t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:21 PM
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The methods were wrong. Not the premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:16 PM
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Attractive, psychologically healthy and highly cognitively developed also tend to focus much less on looks compared to the average human. It's a widespread thing to see the gentle, smart supermodel - looking man/woman with an unattractive chick/dude. Also, a 2 in looks can't aspire to become an 8. Stop with this cognitive dissonance. However, I have to notice that you grasped one of the main issues in the spreading of dark triad personalities in this century, that is, social media and influencer…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:15 PM
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I didn't say that they inherently possess dark triad traits. I described the cycle of an attractive person who develops dark triad traits, as well as stating EXACTLY WHAT THE ARTICLE SAID. Y'all either just missed the point of my post or want to keep living in cognitive dissonance and lie to yourselves because "I cannot date an ugly person, even if they're the best, most genuine, capable and mentally sound in the world, unless if it's for settling and using them".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:00 AM
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I don't have a terrible personality, I just have PTSD because of rejection trauma... Bad personality=bad looks, in your vocabulary.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 08:19 AM
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I score high in machiavellianism, not in the other dark triad traits. I'm highly empathetic, but I've been wronged many times, and I've become vengeful. Don't mock who you don't know. You would never know the outcome of it. I've been harassed, made fun of and abandoned, mostly by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 08:17 AM
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It "doesn't sound" like eugenics. It is eugenics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 08:07 AM
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I do have interest in neuroscience. I think y'all missed the point of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 08:05 AM
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Because I mostly agree with your other points lol. I liked your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 06:57 PM
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Dating must be analytical. Fun doesn't help constructive, positive evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 06:49 PM
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yes, their imperatives NEED and MUST be quashed in order to achieve a status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 06:40 PM
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Yes. If you want to bring up the "emotional" argument like most feminists do. Otherwise, women having less empathy is a cause of their sexual selection strategy. It's shallow and needs to be eradicated from the core.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 06:34 PM
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If you point a gun at them and force them, they will. However, I don't advocate for violence, and that would be rape. I'd rather brainwash them since childhood into thinking that rejecting a person based on how they look like would have harsh consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 06:32 PM
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It is negative. At least for me. But I despise humanity anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:20 PM
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Thank you... After the say there will be the act.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:11 PM
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Unless, unlike Putin, I nuked you all beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:10 PM
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You'll be erased from Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 10:03 AM
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I don't care how I sound like. This is the way to go and it's the future that expects you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 09:58 AM
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Yes. It doesn't matter if you disagree, this is how I'm proceeding, and once I'm going to achieve a higher position in society, I'll actively work on it. It doesn't matter if I'm going to form a mega cult, at least the outcome will be positive, especially for the people who are currently struggling to even wake up from their beds because of the treatment they receive by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 09:54 AM
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It is, and it's right that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 09:49 AM
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Yeah, it isn't. I'm usually highly empathetic, but I also have extreme fear of abandonment, and if a girl bullies me for my looks, I bully her back, and I'm legitimated to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 09:48 AM
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I'm not Quasimodo. I'm not hunched over. If you knew me personally you wouldn't think that less of me. Let's see how good looking you are, instead. Or maybe how intelligent you are, because I don't care about looks. I dated supermodel - level women as well as obese amoebas and I felt good in both situations, when they were smart enough. Given your reaction, you probably are neither that smart nor that attractive, but you probably lack empathy and have a high sense of entitlement. You'll be weede…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 09:45 AM
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No, even if you're interested in sex. In my personal case, it's physiologically impossible for me to refuse dating a woman based solely on physical traits. If I did, guilt would erode my brain, and there's already the fear of abandonment brought by PTSD that is doing that work. I'd suggest that women have far less empathy, insight and self-analysis ability compared to men, but men have more variety on that, so you find both hyper-empathic ones and hyper-narcissistic ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 02:02 AM
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Thanks. I need it. For now, I'm just achieving a small part of my goal, by triggering the women who rejected me so bad that they overthink everything they do, and I take pleasure in seeing them suffering the same way I did because of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 12:17 AM
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I've been honest. And, in all honesty, your comments sound much more like a way to take the discussion to an emotional level in order for you to shame me. You can google about "correlation and inferential evidence" and I'm sure that you'll find as many "reputable sources" as you want, at an academic level as well. The same way I did. I edited my comments to add something that came to my mind or change my grammar mistakes, you know, english is not my first language, unlike for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 12:13 AM
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Wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 12:09 AM
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This needs to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 12:05 AM
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You can. You can also do it physically, by removing the part of the brain that specializes in it. However, in that case you would lobotomize people :/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 12:05 AM
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They wouldn't. Primates in a controlled environment show more cooperative behaviors. What are humans themselves, if not primates?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:56 PM
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A more empathic person would be more likely to judge based on more important traits than looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:55 PM
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They would be... My suggestion literally implies gradually REWIRING THEIR BRAIN CONNECTIONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:53 PM
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I agree on that. It should be another thing to teach. Sexual interaction for the sake of it is detrimental to both an individual and a societal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:49 PM
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If you were constantly brainwashed into thinking that a short overweight pimply man is sexy you would. For example, I'm short (anywhere between 5'7" and 5'9"), but I've always been athletic and with a chiseled jawline and a thick neck. My friends in high school used to make fun of me, calling me "Corey Taylor" precisely due to my neck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:47 PM
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I am. But as alone as I am, my ways are much harsher.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:42 PM
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You're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:41 PM
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It shouldn't. At least on the level I suggested.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:41 PM
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But in that case those relationships would be dysfunctional, and the parts involved wouldn't enjoy engaging in such bonds. Relationships need to be genuine and morally right, not only "fun". This is the reason why we must teach away attraction as we know it currently.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:40 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:36 PM
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Let's say even bottom 40% as of now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:36 PM
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Life would be fun, not dating. Your justification for your purpose is different from the real reason why you do it, which is a simple biological imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:35 PM
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What goals are you talking about? The ones related to teaching empathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 12:41 PM
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Exactly. I don't think it should be geared towards dating either. However, consistently teaching such behavior would have enormous benefits on that side as well, particularly during the first half of the selection process (you would know that if you rejected someone only because they're ugly, they wouldn't feel good and it would probably take a toll on them; so you don't reject them and get to know how they are).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 12:40 PM
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I'm serious... I want to hear your thesis. I didn't have an extreme reaction. I literally asked about an opinion on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 12:37 PM
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"Circumstancial (inferential - my first language isn't english, so I apologize) proof" is a term now used in the juridical environment. It indicates a proof that is obtained via "inference files". In the case we're speaking of, we can only consider statistical inference, since the studies - at least the onesthat I know of - made about narcissism, attractiveness and sexual success are necessarily conducted over relatively small population samples, in order to analyze the behavior of the subjects …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 12:35 PM
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Let's hear your thesis then. This is why I started this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 12:15 PM
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Why don't you want to date them? Because you aren't attracted to them. Why aren't you attracted to them? Because they're "ugly". What would you feel if you slept with one? Disgust... what is the emotion closest to disgust? Fear. Lookism is simply a loose version of cacophobia.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 12:14 PM
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The correlation I've talked about is not spurious. I've also illustrated how the cycle goes. Do you know why a direct cause - effect correlation isn't required? It's because you don't use only one subset of data in order to formulate a hypothesis. You conduct many studies in order to collect a quantity of data that is enough for you to start working on the theory. One correlation alone isn't enough. There needs to be a plethora of surveys and experiments on that one topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 12:11 PM
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I call it "cacophobia". Your answer, however, suggests a high level of "alpha male machismo". Which explains your entitlement fairly well. First of all: I'm not a chick. I'm a man. Second: I'm perfectly in line with my BMI. I've always been into sports since I was a toddler, I was a martial artist, I worked for seven years as a lifeguard and now I practice calisthenics and gymnastics. I've also practiced powerlifting, even though at an amateur level.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 12:04 PM
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Correlation is what is called a "circumstancial proof", since it can't explain a certain trend in a direct way, BUT it can bring the person a hypothesis. Obviously, that hypothesis should be validated according to the scientific method, in order to become a theory, otherwise we would end up with biased studies. I take my responsibility for that ignorant claim I made that you pointed at me. I quoted that reply in order for you to explain me why you answered like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:59 AM
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Yeah, sorry, I misread your comment. But i do have a reasonto posit that SOLELY choosing handsome men (and women) is driving Fisherian Runaway selection towards maladaptive traits, including behavioral ones. The correlation is a proof of that. A direct cause - effect relation isn't required in a global vision of the outcome. Even height is becoming a maladaptive genetic trait. Same as the antlers of the Megaloceros giganteus. "No, absolutely not. Why would I be experiencing rage right now? What …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:38 AM
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You're actively contributing to social ostracization and loneliness. Sure, depression has a more shallow representation in women compared to men (differences in psycho - somatic response to the struggle; higher likelihood of fatal suicide attempts in men and so on); nevertheless, it should be taken into consideration as well. If the cause of that depression is environmental (most likely romantic rejection and bullying), a positive approach towards that subset of people - always keeping in mind f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:31 AM
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That's why I proposed that solution. You focus too much on the current state of affairs without thinking about the future. If this method of sexual selection that I just suggested becomes the norm, the problem you explained won't subsist anymore. The brain works in "habits" and imprinting. If the imprinting is different from the one women have now, a logical consequence is that the outcome would also be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:24 AM
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In fact I didn't talk about causation in my post, can you see that you're just answering out of rage? I talked about global solutions. The correlation between good looks and dark triad traits is strictly linked to the halo effect and the social perception of good - looking people, among other things. I never talked about "causation". That's why I proposed this change in dating strategy. Also, your answer was about two things: my bias towards attractive individuals, and the fact that I claimed "e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:21 AM
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Women are the ones who date based almost entirely on looks, I thought it was clear. "Fat chicks" as you say, have all the means to improve their health and should be given the same respect that is given to any other human being. And I quote: "We need to eliminate tribal thinking and teach individualism and respectful cooperation. Social media interactions will be highly monitored until adulthood. A healthy, non - consumeristic lifestyle is needed as well."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:15 AM
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Fat chicks can improve their health and become more attractive, don't you know it? Also, if a "fat chick" is fat because of hormonal diseases, which are mostly genetic, first, they have a cure and rebalance their hormones and lose weight, second, they have a right to be given the same respect that you give to any other person. Cacophobia and lookism are a plague for both sides, be that for men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:12 AM
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I shared it to give you evidence about the correlation between attractiveness and dark triad traits. I think it was pretty evident. You can't counter-debate that, since your answer IS about my supposed "bias" towards attractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:09 AM
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It's not fun when an entire subset of people is subjected to perpetual ostracization. Dating isn't fun. Most women require "consistency"... And tell me, what's the fun in consistency? What's the fun in "stability"? What's the fun in looking for a living ATM? What's the fun in marriage? My take is that dating has a purpose. The purpose is to find compatible partners to spend life with. There's no fun in it. Dating based on knowledge, IQ and empathy multiplies by far the chances of finding a compa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:06 AM
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We can teach away natural attraction and it's our duty to do so. We taught away many other evolutionary traits in the West, such as the tendency to resort to violence when a threat is perceived. Even though racism and xenophobia are having much more media coverage nowadays (naturally, as we live in a globalized, interconnected society), we're much less racist and xenophobic than we were even two decades ago. Just an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:03 AM
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https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/psychology-uncovers-sex-appeal-dark-personalities/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:00 AM
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The issue is that women like you are fare less compared to men in your IQ range. As I said earlier, men select women who are "average" (truth is they don't really select them, it's just Fisherian Runaway selection, same as peacocks). My IQ is 140 or something around that. I'm socially awkward and I don't work well in society, (many women who showed interest in me complained that they couldn't "pinpoint" my attitude in order to put me in a box and label me - most people think in stereotypes; I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:58 PM
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It happens in both cases. I'd suggest you to look at the podcast between WanderingWojak and Thinking Ape regarding the topic. Wojak has a lot of studies to back up his claims. I'd say that the biggest factor that comes at play is ATTRACTIVENESS. psychologytoday.com is a "scientific" magazine that I tend to avoid,I rely much more on academic papers. The problem is present in both genders, since women tend to choose partners who are physically superior but less bright mentally, since they value wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 10:34 AM
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I don't have anger issues. I'm just cynical and realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 09:38 AM
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No, simple reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 08:58 PM
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You don't have to tell me Franco's story, showoff. My father knew him in person, they trained in the same gym (when my babbo was younger, Pesistica Nuorese). Also, he was from a village in Sardinia, named Ollolai, guess where I'm from? Oliena, in Sardinia, a town which is less than 15 miles from Ollolai, we also speak the same language (Sardinian) and not only that, even the same dialect (barbaricino)... You can say that most people don't know about his life, they have no idea who he was.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:54 PM
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Do you know me enough to say that I don't put in the work? Also, being a jock is quite useless, given that WE ALL DIE and this planet will be swallowed by our Sun in the next 4 billion years. Nothing really matters. You're playing a purposeless game.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:50 PM
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To OP: as everything in life, your point has a few flaws; it's mostly good, anyway, and I find myself agreeing with you; To the other Redditors on this sub: goodbye you bunch of koalas. Let's see who leaves the bigger mark on this planet for the next generations to come... Don't ever forget about Ludwig Van Beethoven, Isaac Newton Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:47 PM
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You know where to put your degrees, showoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:43 PM
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Not many, but you forget the role of one thing: luck. He was already tall, good looking and had a huge social circle. How many of you know about his best friend who did the SAME EXACT THING, but was only 5'3", Franco Columbu?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:42 PM
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But they were already gifted. If I bring the sources to you you shut your mouth once for all, deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:39 PM
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Being a jock is mostly genetic lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:38 PM
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Yoga is secular, you jock.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:37 PM
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Extremely rare and are far less "sexually successful" compared to jocks. They also tend to choose either monogamy and don't sleep around, or being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:36 PM
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There are athletically gifted people, and if they're males, they're jocks. Go away with your David Goggins positivity bias mindset. It doesn't solve any problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:35 PM
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It's not athletic ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:32 PM
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Finally...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:30 PM
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Dumb jock. You took time to show off what you do because you're objectively dumb. Having a "perfect GPA" doesn't necessarily mean that you're "a genius". Go back to your women and "deadlifts", jock.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:29 PM
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Precisely that. They come to your universities because they want to live the "western dream" as it seems all easier for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:27 PM
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A Henry Cavill or a Richard Feynman are much less likely to reproduce compared to a Michele Morrone. Jocks are attractive and dumb, and attractive and also intelligent men are much less successful in the dating market on average compared to handsome and dumb Chads. Women actively select dumb men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:25 PM
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It does, because it means that what you call "choices" are no other than basic reactions to the environment, reactions that aren't deliberate (even when being casual), but directly correlated with a cause-effect interaction, the fundamental type of relation between two phenomenas in physics, and therefore, in all science. The prefrontal cortex in that case works as some sort of "defense mechanism", one of ancestral origin (I apologize if I can't explain it more technically to you, I'm not a neur…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 11:27 AM
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You know that it's an "executive system", right? It's not the first area of the brain to be activated. Its purpose is to control and direct the subconscious stimuli. You know, cognitive abilities, speech, thought, emotions... Aren't they all reactions?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:09 PM
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Appearance matters with no reason for it to do so. Example: Imagine water. Two bull sharks copulate and procreate. However, the female has already copulated with other males. The eggs grow inside her, until they hatch. The baby shark that has grown up the most EATS his siblings, because there's no food. He's the only one to come out. Well, he's going to repeat the same cycle until the species goes extinct. No purpose. Another example: Koalas. They evolved to eat eucalyptus, which literally has n…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:54 PM
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We aren't the sole mammals with capacity of rational thought; that is also subordinate to the subconscious. Your choice isn't yours. The unconscious part of the brain made it even before you realize you made that choice. We are not free from determinism. Free will is same as astrology, it's pseudoscience and bears no material, measurable evidence. We're the product of genes and environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:00 PM
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I'd like to discuss more about your point of view in private. This comment section is flooded and I'm starting to think about deleting this post (since it wasn't about you people on PPD but rather some idiots who called me misogynist for a comment I made on sexual dimorphism on a podcast yesterday) and write an apology post where I explain my POV calmly with no emotions involved. Personally, I'm a firm believer in determinism. Libertarianism is too flawed a reasoning imho to be considered object…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 11:22 AM
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Same. IF you want, you can PM me and I'll be more than happy to have a constructive debate with you in my spare time. Right now I'm focusing on a few exams I have to attend next week.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 11:19 AM
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"(and is pretty circular notion that can never be proven wrong)" I'd add that your feelings, experiences and preferences are predetermined by two factors: nature and nurture. Some of them are prewritten in your genetic code, which is prewritten itself, others come from the education style of your parents; we could go on and on until we start talking about quantum entanglement and the formation of quarks (and yes, even in quantum mechanics a "random" event doesn't equate to different possibilitie…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 11:16 AM
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Yeah, true. I would like to apologize if the comment came off as an attack to the people on PPD. It was about a podcast.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 11:04 AM
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That's good to know. I'd like to keep in contact for further discussions, and I hope that you didn't get mad at me for my sarcastic comment on Rome.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 11:01 AM
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The answer is both quite simple and extremely complicated at the same time, but I can't talk about it online, if not in general lines (obviously determinism doesn't necessarily preclude morality): It's part of the training to become a police officer in Italy - a difficult road with many steps, very different from how Police officers are trained in the US, especially when it comes to the number of forces present in the territory - along with criminology and criminal profiling. If I complete the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:55 AM
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Nice!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:39 AM
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It's both nature and nurture... nature and nurture form what is called attachment style. If your attachment style has predicted that you would end up with a stoic abuser, then yes, it's in both your biology and your psychology. It's something that you can't change, but you can adapt in order for it to avoid dangerous situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:38 AM
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In fact, I did just that with this post. I apologize.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:29 AM
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Tbh, I'm an "academic" (or at least a university student and researcher), just not in that field (I'm not studying it in my spare time either: I'm studying it for a course in criminal profiling, along with law philosophy, law (obviously) and behavioral psychology). If I'm lucky, after doing this course, I may get out with another degree and specialize in that. I would really love to delve deeper into the evolutionary biology rabbit hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:28 AM
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Did you graduate in math? Obviously this question has nothing to do with the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:22 AM
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I took the absence of free will as axiomatic, and I said "especially women" obviously as a broad generalization. Averages can't and shouldn't be taken as absolutes. I was listening to a lesson from Sabine Hossenfelder on the issue of hard determinism and quantum mechanics, where she proved deductively the high likelihood that we can't have it, since "free will is the ability to have options". You always have a cause-effect relation, and you can't "go back" and choose differently and even if you …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:18 AM
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Unfortunately for you, I'm not in the Manosphere. As I said, I'm not a "pill" person, I don't buy into any narrative (you can say that my thinking is flawed, and it truly is, since I'm not omniscient and I too have emotions, but not that I "believe" in any sort of ideology - heck, I reject politics)... Sure, I've watched a few MGTOW videos (mainly the "philosophical ones, like the ones on determinism, nihilism and existentialism), and I also delved into the "incel rabbit hole" to the point that,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:03 AM
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WEAK CORRELATION! Do you know what that means? "Most likely the Megalodon went extinct, and the probability that it could exist is only 1%" (science); "There's a 1% likelihood that the Megalodon could still exist, therefore it exists" (pseudoscience). 9 and 16 percent is nothing. I gave you the article because I wasn't finding the Academic paper on my Uni and Police officing school directories. I hope I can find it so I can send it to you. I can't point out every mistake that a journalist does p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:59 AM
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Why do people treat themselves as beings with a will? This was the point of the post. I was ranting about three idiots who called me misogynist for explaining sexual dimorphism and determinism in the comment section of a podcast. It's obvious that you don't disagree with this, you can't! You don't have a free will. This was the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:45 AM
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Wrong. You believe in free will, right? I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:42 AM
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We all follow our biological nature. I didn't add anything. It was a rant about a podcast and three idiots who called me misogynist for explaining sexual dimorphism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:37 AM
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https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/does-brain-size-matter1/ Read this article, I know I'm spamming it, but it's worth a view. Yes, they all have bigger brains than humans, in fact, it's more likely that what determines inductive intelligence is rather the number of synapses, and therefore neurons. We aren't the most intelligent species on Earth in an absolute sense. We're simply apex predators (omnivores, not carnivores like the peole who make fun of "soyboys" love to say, or herbivores …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:35 AM
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https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/does-brain-size-matter1/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:30 AM
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There's nothing to back up these claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:26 AM
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Blue whales are among the most intelligent animals on Earth. Did you know that they have "dialects"? Their communication style changes depending on where they grew up. Obviously it's still a hypothesis...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:26 AM
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That is true. In fact, I don't see them as unquestionable. And, if y'all didn't understand it, this post wasn't about you guys in PPD. It was about some politically driven, sexist individuals (two men and a woman) who personally attacked me online, claiming that I was a misogynist for explaining sexual dimorphism (that's why I talked about the Fisherian Runaway Selection, since as I said many times, I would like to open up a debate about it here). I apologize for my rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:23 AM
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I didn't say XY chromosome=logical/rational thinking. And if you read back my post, I'm not saying that men are more logical by virtue of being men. I said people because I'm generalizing. I don't spend time in the "Manosphere" anymore, it took me a year to grow tired of it. So don't come to me with your personal attacks. "You're just some dude with slightly below average reasoning ability typing out some emotionally driven vindictive post on a subreddit about a heavily flawed ideology." Obvious…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:12 AM
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More neurotic. Not less intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:05 AM
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So Rome doesn't exist, right, son?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:03 AM
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he should have come up with a Moss-12 and fucked them all up. :)
/r/AntiFeminists30/01/22 11:02 PM
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You really don't want to know the story of my life... Turns out, I don't hate anyone. I only see you all from afar, study you and observe you. I've become extremely cynical over time and I defend my position on pessimism and existentialism from every attack, while also being open to new ideas. I'm sorry, but I study science and I can't stop looking at things with a "scientific" eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 11:22 AM
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I don't know everything but I'm sure I know more than you do. Case closed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 07:52 PM
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Maybe, I don't study biology, but I study people, it's my job. And no, it's not due to me being a man that it makes it easier for me to understand what's going on inside your head. Most males neither care nor want to get you. AWALT and nothing is relevant. You don't get it because you're just ignorant. I wish you were a "men observer" at least you would understand our logic a little more. But for now, just keep with your straw man arguments. You wouldn't understand the futility of your life anyw…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 07:34 PM
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I said repeatedly that I don't care about women, but there it goes: the reason why I know about women more than an actual woman is because I observe them and study them. What you're saying (in true "dumb female" fashion) is that if a biologist observes and studies the behavior of lions for months, or even years, they still know less than "an actual lion" even though the reality is that starting from a subjective point of view you can't describe anything empirically. You offer no more than your s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:14 PM
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You give the same exact answers you gave before, if this isn't female shaming language, then Idk what it is. Read back the comment to which you answered. And don't gaslight me and play dumb reading the one about virtue signaling, you know which comment I'm pointing out. You can't even argument your answer. It's not me being mean, it's you not having the ability to understand what I said. I have my fair share of reasons to doubt your dating choices and call you a virtue signaler. Try harder, thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:08 PM
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I'm not in the friendzone, and I don't care about being liked. Also, the fact that you're liked doesn't make your more intelligent, or your comment more sensated. Being unliked has opened my mind and made me figure out (very slowly) the true nature of humanity, something that will never be capable of.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:02 PM
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I was writing an answer but then I accidentally deleted it. I'm gonna write it once I remember what I was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 11:37 AM
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The journey sucks for everybody. Enjoyable? Yourr life can be enjoyable only if your brain doesn't work well. The difference is none. Would you trade your brain and your true nature, your intelligence and your ability to think for some looks? You can stop suffering. What you need is to truly understand. Read my comment again and again, and think. Maybe learn some philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:35 AM
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But when they get it, they'll yearn for something else and feel the same sadness and nostalgia over and over again. Why can't you see that even attractive people feel the same despair and screwing once in a while doesn't change the true nature of things, except for making them stupid? Because that's what sex does to the brain... Those who don't suffer are either just dumb and can't understand the true nature of existence, or completely alone and have reached a level of understanding that surpass…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:30 AM
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Nice that you know Fernando Pessoa.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:17 AM
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You're putting an absurd amount of effort for NOTHING. Both attractive and unattractive people once they think about the true point of life, realize that their life is worthless. But why killing yourself? It has no point, we all die naturally and we will be forgotten anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 09:56 AM
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This too is textbook female projection - doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman - I didn't project, I can see through people's sneakiness, I've been taught that since I was a kid. I don't care about touching or not touching women, the only way I would like to touch them would be with a shotgun if a third world war starts, given that they are really no better than men, and the treatment is equal. Equal rights equal fights. I'm way less shallow than you think, in fact, I question everything, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 09:33 AM
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You really think that your textbook female shaming tactics change the fact that you're shallow and a virtue signaler? Even if I didn't get "bitches", that doesn't mean that I don't have the right to speak, female. Just remember: life is meaningless, and even if you have a partner, you still remain meaningless. You procreate and make sure to pass your genes? These genes are useless and meaningless as well, you're just repeating the dumb circle of life. Ask yourself: what's the point of everything…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 09:20 AM
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To all the women here: you are NOT queens. You're hollow shells just like us. This behavior is insulting to your brain. Want an orbiter who gives you unconditional attention? Buy yourselves a Tamagotchi. We deserve the same respect that you pretend from us.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:31 PM
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I'm lmfao right now... Intelligent=tall Kind=chiseled jawline/beard/bad boy attitude Funny= Sarcastic, arrogant and "hot"... Honestly, I've got nothing against you, but this is laughable, given how unbelievable and unrealistic it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:20 PM
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But even then, what's the point? Why having an abundance/scarcity/ whatever mindset you may have? Even if you were the most attractive man to ever walk on Earth, your life would still be meaningless. You would be treated like a cucumber with a nice package, not much better than a pizza at a restaurant, you would be like food. I don't get why blackpill/redpill/bluepill/no pill or whatever people get mad at themselves for not being "an evolutionary success". It's pointless. Even if you were, you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 10:57 PM
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Sandman may be, but with Thinking Ape, it really comes down to interactions with other individuals in general. Furthermore, it's not mandatory to not talk about women, since they exist and we have to interact with them anyway, and by forcing your opinions you're overstepping someone's boundaries. MGTOW don't harass women unless they aren't really gtow. That doesn't mean that they can't talk about them and no, it's not true that most MGTOW guys don't want to detach from women. The problem is that…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:58 PM
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Who's talking about them? They come anyway. And many of these "female users" accounts are really females, particularly the ones who don't explicit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 02:37 PM
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I'm not. Don't project other people's stuff onto me. I'm happy alone, in fact, I would say that I'm happier on my own that in a relationship. I don't care if they shame me as long as they don't try to actively ruin my life, as many of the girls I talked about did. I don't want to have rape charges on my head because I don't want to date, and some of them threatened me of putting one on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:22 PM
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Look at Youtube channels like Sandman and Thinking Ape. I mostly recommend the latter, since it mostly talks about philosophy. See all the comments made by female users on their channels and then come back and tell me that women don't shame actual MGTOW. At least, the women on the Internet do. They do it in real life, and I have personal experience to count for it. I've taken a one-year break from dating and isolated myself in order to recover from an abusive relationships. All I've received bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 12:46 PM
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They've been sold that mindset by the same women you defend. They're the first to shame you if you GYOW and stop caring (and I mean seriously, not like some of them who do nothing but complain). They look down on you and tell you that it's better if you die out, which shouldn't bother you at all, but once EVERYTHING becomes almost impossible because everyone has that mindset, you're just left with a rope and some pills if you want to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:11 AM
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Personally, I'm a risk-taker, but not the kind you'd look for. What you call a "risk-taker" is actually a "bad boy", a douchebag who really doesn't think, understand, nor does he care about the outcomes of his actions. What I consider a risk-taker is literally someone who risks his life either for "the greater good" (e.g. other people) or to reach an important goal (but not illegal)... I don't know you, so I can't understand your point completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 08:52 AM
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Women do have a hive mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 11:16 AM
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"L'importante è crederci. " Search this sentence on google translate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:46 AM
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Nahh, but YOU ARE a simp. You have a girlfriend! What's about having a girlfriend that isn't simp-y? SIMP. BLUEPILLED CUCK. YOU STILL BELIEVE IN PILLS AND REFUSE TO ACCEPT THAT YOU'RE USELESS, LIKE EVERY OTHER HUMAN BEING.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:39 AM
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Unfortunately, I am one as well. Everyone here is a simp. I can't detach from the world. However, I'm less simp-y than you are, since I'm not in a relationship, I'm not looking at girls, and many times I feel disgusted by their behavior. You see, refusing your nature and evolving is a difficult process.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:36 AM
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Not as much as you are, my boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:19 AM
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Straw man again. You're doing your best to justify yourself. It won't change the fact that you're a simp. Case closed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:15 AM
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Answer? Fisherian runaway selection. They want that kind of men because they say they want it, despite being their preferences completely useless when it comes to choosing the best genetic fit for a new progenies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 06:58 PM
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Again, straw man argument after straw man argument, as if I were the one who called you simp first. I'm going to say this once for all, since you keep deflecting: In order to think logically and not emotionally, you need one thing: SUFFERING IN SILENCE AND ALONE. You need to see the world as an observer, a third part, and that implies that you're ISOLATED and interact with the other individuals of the human species only when necessary. But, no, you keep saying "but I think logically" bullshit. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 06:51 PM
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In reality I said the opposite. Being in a relationship means that you aren't intellectually asexual, therefore you're a simp. You either love women or understand them, and that is a matter of choice, because they aren't that complicated. Read back my comment. Yours is denialism. You're just trying to straw man me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 06:33 PM
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You think... But you're not, as otherwise you wouldn't be in a relationship in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 05:53 PM
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Just look at your answer. Mine isn't denialism, yours is. What I said are empirical facts, not opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:08 PM
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You are, since you're in a LTR with a woman. This implies your inability to see her behavior objectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:06 PM
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I'm a man
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:05 PM
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Nope. it distinguishes straight/bi males who think mostly based on emotions from intellectually asexual straight/bi ones. If you aren't capable of looking at a woman objectively, then you're a simp. I still am, for example, for I love a broken woman deeply and I can't seem to stop, and also enjoy sex far more than I should (yesterday I was extremely happy that I had many girls match me on Tinder, mostly because of my extremely low self-esteem and body dismorphia, despite opening that profile as …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:16 PM
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Yes. Precisely that. Males can't see straight when they have love goggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:08 PM
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Intense admiration for a woman by virtue of their gender. Anything related to female admiration is simping, because every thought you may have for a woman is distorted by sexual compulsion. If you don't look at a woman as simply an animal that behaves erratically, you're simping. That doesn't mean that there can't be any positive opinion on them, it simply means that admiring them is simping. Every leaving, breathing man is guilty of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 11:48 AM
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Domestic violence is proven to be slightly more common the other way around, and that is just counting the declared cases. Women beating up men and shaming them publicly whenever they reach out. Especially when it comes to male sons. It's always been like that. If a man reached out to someone for being beaten up by his woman during the 1600's, or even earlier, said woman would have the right to publicly shame him and ostracize him from his community.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 11:11 AM
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You simp for your partner, maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 11:08 AM
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Women didn't have "rights" because they always had privileges. Should I tell you what was the punishment for a man raping a woman in the Middle Ages? Should I tell you how women were treated during Louis XIV's kingdom in France? Should I explain to you egyptian history? Do you know who Caterina De' Medici is? Do you have even a general idea of who the Borgia family was? Did you know that many of Adolf Hitler's ideas on racism were taught to him by his mother, Klara Poelzl? Did you know that both…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 11:06 AM
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There's an old saying that goes:"Behind every great man there was always a crazy woman". The world, not only western society, has always been dominated by women simply by virtue of their gender. Men are human doings, the expendable ones. Women are human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:47 AM
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That is true... For men. Even at school, you'd see that women were a lot more popular than men simply by virtue of their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:44 AM
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But if so many men are starting to acknowledge these things and avoid the "all risk, no reward" mechanism to attract women, do all of them need "help", or is there a true, palpable, undeniable problem? What you said is exactly what a person with issues who doesn't want to admit them says to someone who sees through them. At some point, every man realizes that sex is just an overinflated product, that women are mostly con artists, with very few exceptions that literally go unnoticed and pay a hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:41 AM
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But I'm not mentally ill. I really have an IQ way above average and I face the struggles that usually a "gifted kid" has. Your situation isn't mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:54 PM
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I'm sorry, but that's a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 09:20 PM
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"High value" doesn't exist. I talked about "high perceived value" on my comment, which implies that it isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 09:18 PM
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It's relevant on a sub about discussing the best strategies for human evolution and preservation of the species, which is what this sub is about when looking at the grand scheme of things, so yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 05:29 PM
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I got it even before, which is why I suggested you to be straightforward.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:20 PM
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It doesn't matter if they're more valuable to humans. It matters whether they are more resilient and thus valuable on evolutionary terms. With that being said, ants are much more resilient than us and therefore more valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:14 PM
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Well, humility is usually an innate trait of an intelligent person, even though they may display high levels of narcissism (particularly solipsism) and machiavellism - they tend to make themselves the center of the world and see themselves as dumb, thus seeing the entire planet as such - I guess you aren't far from average in terms of brain development, so you're not, you aren't "smart". You're average.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:10 PM
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You really didn't understand my comment. You have to be clear and stop with this push and pull. You either commit to him or leave him. It's not self preservation, this is plain narcissism. The world doesn't revolve around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:09 PM
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Probably. However babies are only capable of a basic form of empathy (probably the affective type), and they show it around their 14th month of age. Particularly, among toddlers, you can see how females react a lot more with greed and passive agressive behavior compared to males, who tend to be more physically aggressive, but also to forgive more easily, though the discussion related to this topic is very complicated and there's still a lot of work to be done in order to acquire full clarity on …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:06 PM
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The baseline state for women is that of a "biological narcissist" (idk if it was Ronald Fisher or some other biologist in the late 1800's who called women biological narcissists and men biological sociopaths). That means that empathy, for the average female, is a trait that should be trained and developed after the second year past her birth; For a man, empathy is an innate trait, but usually it's a trait shared with the people within the tribe; what men have to train is to not be vengeful and e…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:51 PM
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Thank you for your open - mindedness about that. Yeah, I have a complicated past and these aren't the only things that happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:46 PM
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I am a man. I know well enough that we don't choose to be desperate. But we choose to keep being in unhealthy situations because we fear change, and going MGTOW is too big of a change in mindset for many. That's what I was trying to explain. I still live as an unloved man, not only romantically, but even platonically, also because I don't recognize when people show me affection (I have schizoid/narcissistic personality traits - not full blown NPD, nor SPD), due to many life experiences I had, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:44 PM
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True. Women don't, but you should. Biological narcissism vs biological sociopathy. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:35 PM
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Again, we find a common point we agree on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:33 PM
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I agree with you on this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:26 PM
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That is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:17 PM
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Which brings us to the aforementioned lack of empathy. NAWALT, but almost AWALT. Women are biological narcissists and men are biological sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:16 PM
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Wrong. Even your parents at some point expect from you to "grow a pair" and don't want to hear about your misfortunes anymore. And I'm not talking about self-victimization. I'm talking about real issues. At some point your parents start to think that you're a "babbeo" and stop you from asking any sort of advice. Even therapists do that. Nobody really cares. For some men, their death had the consequence that people at their funeral were laughing about them and making fun of them. Some didn't even…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:12 PM
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Do you want an example? A girl I was dating decided that 'I wasn't fit for a relationship (in this case platonic, not romantic) anymore' because I told her that I've been molested, that under stress i used to hallucinate, and that I had a self-harming habit. She didn't want me as a friend, she wanted an emotional dumpster. We also kissed a few times and one day we were almost at the point of having sex (which isn't something that friends do, so I felt a little betrayed\* edit); all before gettin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:06 PM
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MGTOW exists. Men choose to keep being desperate. Sure, it would bring us to the brink of extinction, but with fisherian individuals that's one of the few choices. Keeping a woman for SEX after she showed you that she doesn't give a stray fuck about you isn't particularly healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:01 PM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 01:56 PM
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The point of shit testing is manipulation. Manipulation in order for a male to show a female his willingness to emote, and thus the ability to douche it without thinking. Usually if a male shows any kid of emotional depth, it shows the female that he's 'unfit for highly dangerous situations', where he has to react quickly and instinctively, which is what most women go for; particularly when there's a potential threat coming from other peers. Thinking is mostly seen as a "beta" trait, a maladapti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 01:55 PM
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'Debate' doesn't mean 'insult' though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 01:43 PM
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False. Many, if not most, men change for their partner and are met with resentment. Women don't want the men they date to change. Resentment is their comfort zone. Also, MGTOW is what being a hermit was back in the ancient times, albeit sometimes for different purposes. A true MGTOW retires to a contemplative state, seeing the world as a detached observer, a third part. Being MGTOW is completely different from what the women in FDS do; very few women are able to retire into a contemplative state…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 10:35 AM
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You explained it fairly well... You said "He only dates me". That already makes me think that probably HE is the one who wants a stable relationship. However, you date multiple people. When someone says "female sneakiness"... It's an insult to both him and you. If you were as intelligent as you said, you would've known that people naturally develop affection and a long term bond and also become jealous after a long time. Polygamy has always been effective only in the short term, never in the opp…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 10:09 AM
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If you call yourself intelligent, you can't be in the first place. It's just humble bragging. Having a degree, or being hard working doesn't mean being intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 10:05 AM
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They are, that isn't even debatable. Plus, they're a different species.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 10:01 AM
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But this isn't about "laziness". It's about ostracization and isolation. It seems like you're completely unable to depict that situation in your head. Also, this wasn't personal, but rather a circumstance. I can't stand the fact that every girl i talk to about abstract or general topics brings every discussion to a personal level. I used me in order to speak of an "individual x", not me personally. Are examples really that difficult to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 09:57 AM
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Precisely what I've explained. If you start questioning the real meaning of everything, your perceived value (something obviously inexistent) automatically gets reduced to the minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 11:35 PM
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It doesn't exist. It all depends on the value women and other peers perceive. It's more like a peacock and less like a male dog/wolf/cheetah. A so - called "high value man" is just a man that has, metaphorically speaking, it's peacock tail longer that the one of his peers. Usually a tall, good-looking, sociable and fairly dumb but socially smooth man. A highly developed brain, a brain that questions everything, yields empathy, which is inherently a "beta" trait, a low-value characteristic. Compa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 11:21 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I didn't dismiss your comment, I just said that it happens many times. I know how being bullied feels, I've been bullied for 13 years, and when I physically reacted (I was at the elementary), the only thing that changed was the way they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 10:31 PM
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That is your experience. My experience proved me that psichiatrists weren't well trained either to bear with a "gifted kid" (as my teachers in high school called me).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 10:29 PM
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I spoke with both of them, there was just a misunderstanding and what he talked about wasn't really that controversial. We've been able to mend things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 10:27 PM
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But police wouldn't be able to do anything if they swatted me and found an entire army of trained "betas" with their shotguns loaded and pointed at them. Yes, it would require the ability to convince these outcasts and force them into working their asses off, but he would be forced to comply until he dies and, fake or not, I would reach my goal. Same for girls. Outsmarting an average-minded person and predicting their movements isn't that difficult. It would require to stalk them, infect their e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 10:26 PM
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I didn't assume, she literally told him to stop talking to her. And no, it's rude. Psichiatry doesn't help at all. It sure didn't help me when I was in therapy; if anything, it only made things worse. When the problems that torture you are something you have no power on, therapy is simply useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:27 PM
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Mhh, i highly doubt that but i give you the benefit of the doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:25 PM
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You can... Now I'm going to exaggerate: I present you this situation: you're an outcast and you go to the popular guy and point a rifle at him saying: "be my friend or I'm gonna blow your brains out. Break your phone, don't contact anyone or I'm going to blow up the entire city. " Pretty sure that he'll call you at every party and befriend you. Sometimes it's better to be feared than loved. Fear forces people to "love you". And if they kill you, you would have reached your goal anyway so you can…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:23 PM
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Sounds like you have a different problem right now. Dating drug dealers? Not cool, not cool at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:19 PM
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Sure not me, but many do, and there's evidence to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:12 PM
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Le bagasse hanno sempre successo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:10 PM
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I'm pretty sure that being bullied didn't toughen me up at all. If anything, it made me attempt at my life six times and struggle with self-harm for five years, along with forcing me to weed out potentially healthy relationships (even romantic ones - I could've been in a LTR even currently if it weren't for my ostracization and avoidance of highly dangerous situations, because some girls - even highly attractive ones - liked me back when I was in middle and high school) and no, someone who attem…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 06:53 PM
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I think there is a way to change it. Whenever an undesirable develops vengeful thoughts, they become a "punisher" and consequently, a feared one instead of an undesirable one. We need more punishers. I don't advocate for violence, but school shootings often worked as a form of retribution to weed out the "alphas". Revenge was legal both in ancient Greece Rome. So, instead of giving the chance for school shootings to happen, we should legitimize other, less violent (but equally effective) forms o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 06:47 PM
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I'm a late millennial and I've suffered both physical and cyber bullying for 13 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 06:43 PM
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But YOU CAN force people to be friendly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 06:42 PM
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I'm working on a post related to this exact topic. It's taking me a long time because I'm also preparing some exams for my computer science course, and the research papers required in order to back up my hypothesis are multiple but difficult to choose effectively. I would also like to conduct a meta-analysis on that topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 06:38 PM
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Same story for me. I became "attractive" around the age of 18 and the girls I knew would either avoid me entirely or try and find a reason to bully me, often saying that "just because I became cute it doesn't mean that I wasn't the same piece of shit as before" (my ex-classmate's words). If it weren't for my looks, it would be for my awkwardness and niche taste in music.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 06:36 PM
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DSBM is a music genre. Bands like Shining, Nyktalgia, Silencer, Psychonaut 4, Nocturnal Depression and so on...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:30 AM
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I don't give myself compliments and I don't think of myself as attractive. However, lately I realized that I attract a decent amount of women, but usually I don't pay attention to it because I'm too "inside my head", thinking and questioning everything. I'm socially awkward and I've struggled with bulimia and also binge eating, but I'm doing my best to change and improve. I don't think I am worthy of any kind of attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:28 AM
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You're a baguette... ​ And about the rest... meh. I'd still argue that his looks play a fundamental role.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:22 AM
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Getting laid and getting married is a CONSEQUENCE of runaway hypergamy, not the cause, nor the premise that proves that it isn't futile. Attraction is inherently futile. Why are you getting married, why are you getting laid? Also, if you researched what I wrote, you wouldn't base your answers on these points in the first place, taking them from an axiomatic level. You get laid and get married just to fulfill a biological need that has no point in being present (preserve the species, but for what…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:19 AM
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And besides all of that... YOU DON'T KNOW HIM. So you're basing all of your mental castles solely on his looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 05:19 PM
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I'm a vocalist for a blackened death metal band and I got three leather jackets (one of which is your typical "detective style"), I smoke natural tobacco, wear obscure band shirts, I'm severely depressed, a natural overthinker with an IQ of 146 that unfortunately only brings me mental masturbation and nothing more, I used to self-harm a lot, I spent most of my teenage years as a scene kid/goth who pretty much only listened to depressive suicidal black metal, emo, deathcore, atmospheric death met…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 05:17 PM
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I don't think my Signs Of The Swarm tee or the fact that I have the entire discography of bands like Dissection and Neurosis would give me any status. It's "doomer music" and most of these "alt" guys aren't bad boys at all. None of my friends is a so called bad boy, most of them are geeky, shy guys like me and absolute nerds when it comes to music, especially metal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 05:09 PM
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But you can STEAL one! (Please understand that I'm joking... it's not a troll, but it isn't serious either).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:45 PM
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Yes, by making them acknowledge its futility in our current times - a slight change in order to rebalance things on a global scale. Do you know what are the fisherian runaway selection, sexy son hypothesis, female sneakiness hypothesis and women are wonderful effect? Just popularizing these empirically verifiable theories and planning nation-wide changes based on that in every country, they'll be forced to change. Since the brain works based on habit and adaptation, if we apply these changes rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:38 PM
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There is one theory that could help incels achieve their goal: The Fisherian Runaway Selection. Once they manage to concretely prove that the current type of sexual selection is useless and even detrimental to the global status quo and the further evolution of the human race, and, most importantly - since apparently no one cares about the future - that it's causing extreme unbalance in the current times, they're good to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:31 PM
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"A face for radio and a voice for print"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:05 PM
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This is why an "incel uprising" like a socio-sexual version of the French Revolution on a global scale would be effective, at least for a short time. However, most incels are, as someone here said, basement neckbeards and the ones who are willing to change things don't want to do it all alone because in that case, the only thing conquered would be a dirty, stinky bed in a prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 11:51 AM
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No, but if it were, it would be sufficient to have a rifle, some ammo and a brick of C-4 to eliminate every Chad in sight for at least 300 m.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 11:44 AM
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Perhaps... Or forcing women into re - adapting their dating expectations and males into dropping their antisocial behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 11:40 AM
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Can't even explain my thoughts to my dumb sheep. Just to inform you: I date and I fuck way more than you think. Maybe that reason is why you're gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 08:15 PM
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First and foremost: I said I'm not; Second: personal attacks don't change the reality of things. Only a part of the herd would use such strategies to shame those with a different opinion than theirs. You're just proving my point. Read back my answer to your first personal attack, the one you're shaming for. Finally, there are very few things that I find offensive, none of which relate to a comment from a no one on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:37 PM
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Clarity. I'm not angry anymore. I'm just cynical. But now I see. I see that people (no matter which gender) are simply empty vessels with no conscience, even when they think they have it. Slaves to their instincts, yet arrogant enough to call themselves sentient. Women - for the most part, without considering the outliers who are very well present - are simply the most blatant example of it. They're just lines of preprogrammed code that mostly interact as mindless NPC's with no mental freedom wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:09 AM
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Completely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 12:30 PM
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There was, however, honestly reasoning about it, there isn't any. Of course, love deprivation hurts a lot and I need physical contact, but with a partner there's always a condition for it to happen. I need someone whom I can call family. No woman really wants that. I need the kind of love that's spoken about in the poems. Unconditional. With no requirements. Genuine. Something that doesn't feel forced. But that is impossible to achieve. Whether if it's a friendship or a romantic relationship. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 12:28 PM
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If you want, I'd be more than happy to give you some of my sadness, hatred and bad luck. Not sell it, but rather, my gift to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 09:57 AM
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Love deprivation kills. Literally. It puts you at a higher risk of heart failure, stroke, severe depression, blood problems yada yada yada. So, yes, they want us dead. Also, women have been openly hostile towards me based on my looks most of the time, and they got mad when some of them dated me, complaining about the fact that I should "stay in my lane, since I'm a loser", so what are you telling me? To reject the facts, to reject what happened to me and bluepill myself once again?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 10:32 PM
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But girls would rather see us suicidal or completely dead than give us any love/affection/intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:21 PM
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100% agree on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:18 PM
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Most women I know are dating and shame me for being unattractive. Quite the opposite. Your ramble sounds more like gaslighting and less like an actual problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:48 PM
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I don't care what you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 01:37 PM
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I'm saying that counter selection by force is the only answer to end the dating market issue. I don't care what you think, if you don't have any rational explanations to confute my assumption. I will further explain my point on my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 01:20 PM
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Your preferences don't matter in the grand scheme of things. You said you don't care about the greater good, so why should I care about a name? As long as I'm not harassing anybody and I'm not going against the law I'm good. I'm a male, I don't get offended when called as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 09:09 PM
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Then doubt it. You're free to do it. It doesn't change the fact that it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 08:41 PM
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Nice. Female shaming. C'mon, the stars are waiting for us. I'm gonna drag you in by force if you don't come. Or do you want to perish like a no one? It sure doesn't bother me. I'm on my way to create a better human race.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 08:40 PM
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Guys, wait until I will finish my post and publish it. Probably you'll see a hot mess. Hint: this post I'm working on relates to your question as well. It'll be fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 08:15 PM
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More meaningful than riding the cock carousel indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 07:56 PM
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The technology for long distance space travel has already been developed since the 1970's and no, it's not a conspiracy theory (look at the Icarus project); as I said, the butterfly effect implies that every decision you make is an event on a universal, or at least global time scale. I'm not going to prove it by using "quantum spirituality" or "astrology" or any other pseudoscience including religion, as they're the most deplorable examples of human stupidity. Just think about the fact that you …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 07:52 PM
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Not really... And yes, humanity is doomed if you don't get into a relationship with someone who's ugly (which is the first mandatory step to change our fate). But I'm going to explain this point on the post I'm working on, so for now take this as a statement. Population isn't the problem. It's the type of socio - sexual selection that is. We can always migrate to space, Earth will disappear anyway, and it's best for us before we face another mass extinction. Don't get me wrong, I too chose to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 07:25 PM
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Everything is a form of settling and compromising. However, this doesn't bring up resentment and regret: you can't regret something out of your existence, something you don't know. You can dream of it, but not regret it. Life is a painful thing to be done because our social environment doesn't accept other choices; if you're successful, the reason is that humans would lose a guide; if you're a reject, it's because humans would lose their scapegoat. Social structures, as of now, and probably for …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 06:59 PM
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Because humanity is doomed otherwise. The burden IS on someone else. The environment doesn't shape you completely, but these traits are environmental. They're adaptations and exaptations. You don't feel as the person you pair with even if you start a relationship with them willingly, even if you convince yourself that you do, so that point doesn't hold up. You're another person. These traits aren't useful to humanity anymore. Time to drop them. The human brain can also work statistically, making…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 06:39 PM
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Wrong. We're born with a certain limit to be empathetic. A limit that, by facing a situation yourself, is usually surpassed; that means that in both cases you feel empathy, albeit on a much lower level and only cognitively on the first one (just imagining a situation). I'm going to explain my thought in a more efficient manner. Experiencing an equal amount of despair in any way (even just by talking and then bursting into tears and being shocked and unable to perform normally in society for a li…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:00 PM
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Simply because they should have been ready to do that before, and they aren't really changing their minds. Most single mothers on average, when "settling down" are looking for a provider that takes care of them, whilst they'll always resent him and crave a high perceived value man, that is, a man with aesthetically pleasing traits, not just physically but also socially. The human equivalent of a male peacock, that is. Someone who shows off what he has in a better way, even if such traits are det…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:49 PM
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Ave my companion! You're a rare being nowadays. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:40 PM
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Disagreeing with them is okay. It shows that you're a sentient being. But you really can't imagine to be in a situation if you didn't live it by yourself. This is why I wrote that. No, you can't imagine what it's like to be homeless or alone if you didn't live it on your own skin, because you can't really fathom what may occur, and thus your imagination is faulty and lacks depth, it has many errors that drive you towards the inability to act accordingly and adapt if you ever found yourself in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:36 PM
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It's exact opposite. You talk from a biological standpoint. I'm talking from an emotional and psychological one. Relationships should be exactly that: a charity at first, and an immense amount of effort later. And I've been drained by "toxic" relationships as well. Do you want to feel what a truly empathetic person feels? Then, be that cynically insane person and force yourself into liking someone you don't like. Force yourself to accept them. A dumb example for you: You don't like men under a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:21 PM
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You said "it's not anyone else's job to take care of you" as if I were asking you to do it. Quite dismissive. Plus, your point is exactly why homeless men stay homeless, abused men keep being abused and don't share anything, and men in general know that they're completely alone while you aren't. Relying on others is the last thing that a man should do because, as you showed clearly, most people don't have enough empathy to understand that sticking to someone is the best thing to do unless they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:00 PM
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The problem is that self love doesn't exist and as of now it's impossible to have a fulfilling relationship with a woman, because when she tells you to "be happy with yourself" she's just dismissing your thoughts and telling you to fuck off and be alone. When an average man tells you the same, he's probably speaking out of envy and telling you to fuck off as well. The herd at best doesn't care about outcasts and at worst it's openly aggressive and the closer we get to society's downfall, the mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 03:42 PM
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Not do better and better. Simply tell society (and women) to fuck off because they aren't worth the effort and living your life with no restrictions whatsoever. If you want to go monk, do it, nobody's able to really force you. When women say "nobody's forcing you", that in reality is guilt tripping a man back into the plantation by feeding his anger and frustration from having just realized that he'll never be enough for a woman, so it doesn't matter. I've answered only to explain this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 03:33 PM
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I'd agree 100%, but unless you're a real non-linear intuitive introverted type of person, I'd doubt that you're saying it honestly and not to lead someone on and subconsciusly guilt trip some man back into chasing something that's very unlikely to achieve. Most people do that (not only women, but men as well).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 03:28 PM
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It's simply a Women Are Wonderful effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 10:21 AM
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These guys have some serious problems. Ugly women face the same exact issues as ugly men. We can debate about whether socially awkward women do, but not about your average 3/10 lookswise chick into coding and theoretical physics (which, no lie, many times appears attractive in my eyes anyway, maybe not for the looks, but there's always something that captures my attention). Also, "socio - sexual hierarchies" aren't fixed, unlike your looks, and it's stupid to categorize men as alpha, beta or omi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:34 PM
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Yes girl, but it doesn't work like that; you should also admit that your answer is kinda dismissive; also, if someone's "weirding you out", doesn't mean that their words aren't to be heard and their advice is not sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:48 AM
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Psychopaths are just that. Psychopaths. Christopher Belter has been diagnosed with malignant NPD, a condition that must be treated since childhood, but it's difficult to identify it, since until the age of 30/40 (50 in some cases), it can be mistaken for quiet BPD. This doesn't erase the fact that there are more male suicide victims due to stigma and most people not accepting that men CAN suffer and struggle. I say that as a survivor, I've lived it personally, but my personal experience doesn't …
/r/MensRights28/12/21 05:30 PM
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I seriously think there are rational women, but they're few. Just like rational men. The mass is always irrational, it doesn't matter which gender we talk about.
/r/MGTOW210/05/21 02:45 PM
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Easy route: Man: individual before man Woman:woman before individual. Women have no identity besides their "being women". Very few have a real personality.
/r/MGTOW203/05/21 07:59 AM
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Well, I always try to treat people as individuals, rather than just "species". The issue is that women see themselves as women first, and only at the bottom of their priorities there's their individuality, which disgusts me to a T. I'm not a mysoginist, I simply look with contempt at people who live as species rather than individuals.
/r/MGTOW202/05/21 02:21 PM
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Who gives a fuck about banging a biological narcissist ? There's a lot more to see in this world than just sex. And I hate self-absorbed people.
/r/MGTOW202/05/21 02:16 PM
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Meh... Not completely right. They often push the envelope in order to make you sexually interested even if you don't give a stray fuck about them, since when you are the one who treats them as simple friends, it means that they're not getting the attention they think they need. If she wants your attention, it means that she can benefit from something you have. Keep in mind : women only chase based on what's useful and easily exploitable. Always. There's no exception to that rule.
/r/MGTOW202/05/21 02:11 PM
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Thank you. Shaming has never worked with me, since I'm naturally defiant(?) Somehow. I don't care about relationships.
/r/MGTOW229/04/21 03:34 PM
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