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This must be this famous female accountability I keep hearing about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:43 PM
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A common excuse women make about this is essentially that if they are clear they will be misinterpreted. When I was in highschool there was a girl that was just consistently kind to everyone...and because she was consistently kind, boys didn't misinterpret her kindness. I know, it's anecdotal evidence but the fact a girl being consistently kind to everyone is anecdotal says everything lol.I think this goes beyond a communication issue, it's a general hostility towards men issue too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 03:41 PM
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My argument isn’t flawed. I'm not trying to say you're wrong or right, I was trying to say you misunderstood the structure of his argument. He was making an argument by contradiction but you interpreted the contradiction as his conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 03:33 PM
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He pointed out that your argument was flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:55 PM
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I'm pretty sure if we gender-swapped this post of yours you could have added it as a third example of misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 01:28 PM
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Well, you didn't engage with my big picture point(Women go to the hospital more than men right? That realistically means they go to the hospital for less than men) and went straight for the anecdotal evidence. so yeah, instead of making a new argument I'll just redirect you back to the thing you're supposedly responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:13 AM
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The value women place on those things is often less than the value men place on them, so I think there is a disconnect when those two topics are being discussed. Women put less value on it because they have easy access to it not because they actually don't care. The only disadvantage men have in this arena is their lack of willingness to do so. Right, I'm sure if we set up a bunch of social experiments well clearly see that men and women are treated the same socially and the only difference is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 11:28 PM
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Women go to the hospital more than men right? That realistically means they go to the hospital for less than men...so that pattern biases the doctors. the small benefit men get out of not going to the hospital as much is that when they do they are more likely to be treated seriously, the fact women can't even let men have that is silly to put it politely.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 11:14 PM
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Yeah, they have zero reason to drop the hypocrisy because it carries no consequences. There's zero short term consequences, but in the long term every time they do it it slightly weakens the foundation a lot of the things they enjoy is built on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:59 AM
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Men have higher levels of self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:52 AM
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They have the resources to get trough pregnancy so evolution makes them horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:41 PM
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I think a better question would be "how much do you take things personally?" because there's a large subset of the population who take things personally more than average but lack the self-awareness to realise it and think they don't take things personally period.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:39 PM
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Men getting their dicks wet at an acceptable rate is unironically a bigger concern for the future than almost anything women care about "for the future".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:14 PM
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Why can’t you just not be invested in feminism? Feminism has an influence that goes beyond it's own members.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:11 PM
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The way a lot of women talk about their exes you could swear they never had a chance if you didn't know they were their ex. There's plenty of post-hoc rationalization when it comes to how women interact with men so I give very little weight to these kind of reactions by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:07 PM
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Women as a group complain about men as a group more than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:56 AM
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Men clearly aren’t happy about this trend at all but they also don’t seem willing to sweeten the deal at all Men have sweetened the deal a lot, women just consistently react in the same way : They move the goalpost/raise their standards and then act like they earned everything themselves and then randomly shit on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:10 AM
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Confirmation bias doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:28 PM
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Some things are additive and self-contained, others are multiplicative and conditional. By example, things that are just more intense tend to be moreso multiplicative and conditional, like when Chad dominates her in some way she likes it more, When Jimmy does it makes her cringe. Not because he's doing it wrong on any kind of technical or moral level but because HE is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:26 PM
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Enough that if a woman is subconsciously attracted to them she can consistently find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:25 AM
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If you give more weight to one thing in your selection that means you give less weight to other things in your selection. That's just an unavoidable reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 05:01 AM
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Did you write that without actually reading the post? A decent part of the point is that even when men speak for others they don't get anyone willing to speak for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:53 AM
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Men get socially punished for saying that things aren't going well for them so they say they are doing well regardless of if they are. Some people interpret that as proof that men are doing well...don't be some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:24 AM
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I think a common pattern is that all of a sudden women get super nitpicky in a way that they simply aren't when women are the ones complaining. so, there's your example.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:08 AM
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"I was nice to you, touch my penis!" is still the general mindset. I'd say maybe a whole 0.1 to 0.2% of the people who say nice guys finish last have that mindset and that might be generous. Aren't you the one that says if you smell shit everywhere maybe you need to look under your shoe?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 08:31 PM
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I mean if you want a boyfriend with anger issues and low emotional maturity then sure...knock yourself out maybe literally because he probably will turn that anger towards you at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 08:19 PM
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I don’t understand why these men seek empathy from women specifically. The last century of women's "progress" was built on the back of men's empathy for women. It was assumed that women cared about things like equality and would match men's energy at some point and weren't just giving men a greek gift. Maybe men are dumb for believing women and trying to meet in the middle, I can't say women are doing a great job disproving that, but it is why men are expecting women to not react the way they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 08:07 PM
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"Nice guys finish last" is not the same as being mad "being a decent person didn't guarantee getting a girlfriend". Where are you getting the focus on "guarantees" from?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:53 PM
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From my personal point of view "Choose Better" applies to both genders equally, since men are also prone to fall into the hands of someone emotionally unstable, gold diggers or someone not taking their needs seriously. "Choose better" is about...CHOOSING better not having better options. Women are disproportionally more likely to have good options but still end up with a bad outcome because of their own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 07:16 PM
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I do believe people have way more control over what they find attractive than they think, but most people treat it like a moral choice instead of a chemistry problem. So no, just declaring that you find xyz more attractive won't make it so, but actually making an effort to gradually associate sexual pleasure with that thing so that your brain finds it attractive or at least less unatractive is definitely possible. Another part of the chemistry is that environment matters a lot, so if you can mod…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 06:16 PM
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Natures recalibration is men getting fed up with women's focus on height not women focusing on height more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 01:19 AM
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That showing a fraud being exposed was somehow a gotcha. I didn't ask you to vaguely gesture at what my counter-point was, I asked you to explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 06:12 PM
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And can you tell me what my counter-point was?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 06:07 PM
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Don't worry man, we all understand what you're doing and I might think twice about calling it out if it wasn't for the fact that it won't matter because women have already made up their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 05:52 PM
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How about I just show another RP’s fraudulent failure? What would that prove?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 05:50 PM
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nice, my point was obviously that Andrew Tate was awesome so further shitting on Andrew Tate is definitely a coherent response that doesn't prove my point. The only thing that could make this better is if you found a way to plug that quote about selfish people ending up alone for the 500th time this week.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:10 PM
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No, I'm saying the men that women in general think view women as equals generally don't while the men women think don't view them as equals generally do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:00 PM
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Usually the kind of man that obessively hates the redpill talks about women privately the way they talk about men publicly and pretty much all of the opinions they publicly state are just an attempt to win power/social games. Like think of how much these kind of men punch down on men every opportunity they get...there's almost no arguments just a string of thinly veiled insults towards a politically correct group to attack. Do you think that's not a social power play trying to elevetate themselv…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:32 PM
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It's pretty funny that you chose to add a picture depicting your "opponent" on their knees and saying they failed because they followed losers who aren't powerful but pretend to be. going strong on the "power play to dominate an opponent" playbook while trying to imply that kind of stuff is pathetic is definitely a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:31 PM
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civilization
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:24 AM
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rewarding people who don't reward good actions is immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:42 AM
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Thanks for proving my point. Your point being "If you argue with me that proves I'm right"? Are you sure you want to dive in the logic of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:18 PM
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I wonder if you could get the "women are wonderful crowd" to accept that all laws and rights are a threat of violence or if there's something more to their beliefs than men bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:14 PM
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Because the perpetration of violence is not “neutral.” Yes? The proximate point is that the word violence has emotional weight that force doesn't and the bigger point is that violence(used as a neutral term here) is the primary thing preventing violence(used as a negative term here) so treating all violence as bad is just a Chesteron's fence. Wrt gender, it’s decidedly asymmetrical. How is that even up for debate. Well,your accusation makes no sense based on what I said, but it happens to be rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:08 PM
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Men aren't out there expecting to get a blowjob because they held a door open once, they are expecting that being nice would get you marginally better outcomes than not being nice. This is just a bunch of strawmen because addressing what men are actually saying without implying something negative about women is almost impossible and we can't have that. “If you dont want to pay for dates, then dont pay” and see how much they argue about doing the very thing they call women gold diggers for expect…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:25 PM
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Do you really expect women to celebrate men if they say "but I dont physically abuse women!". You're not supposed to celebrate when Timmy doesn't beat his wife...but you are supposed to treat Timmy better than the guy who does. You people always focus on words like "celebrate" because that's the only way to frame willingly treating abusive men the same as non-abusive men as a reasonable thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:41 AM
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This is not because women are radicalised, it's because the social institutions in which we exist are different than how they used to be. So it's not because women are radicalised but it's because of the obvious consequences of their radicalisation? but for various reasons See above BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. Why is it the right thing to do? Women don't seem to care about men's issues unless men force them to...and clearly you don't have an issue with what women are doing so why is it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:30 AM
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I'm not refering to non-violent force. I'll be direct, I think you should read what I said 10 times and if you still don't get it just don't bother responding again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:36 AM
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If women chose losers w shit genetics If women pick whoever they want with no restriction what you get is evolutionary suicide Fisherian runaway. A little bit of hypergamy is good, but it's like 1/50th of the current level lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 10:56 PM
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Nah, the "choose better" argument from red pillers vanishes the moment they want to talk about paper abortions, divorces, child support, paternity fraud, domestic violence against men, etc. Did you read the post? Because he did address the spirit of the argument you just made.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:22 PM
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And you obviously didn’t watch any videos cause they are mostly all GenZs No, I did watch up to a minute of each video. I didn't say the people making the videos were boomers, I called the videos boomer stuff because it's targetting boomers who don't quite know what this stuff is not targeting the people at an age where they already know what this stuff is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:50 PM
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The average man would probably be beaten up by just 2 motivated average women. The "motivated" part is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. Women "motivated" enough to actually capitalize on the fact it's a 2v1 are psychological outliers, not average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:28 AM
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That's a lot of effort to prove you're not obsessed lol. Anyways, I've watched enough of the videos to know it's just boomer stuff and I don't really care for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:51 AM
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Like, these are the guys who think "women are attracted to hot men" was a groundbreaking idea. Right, because "women care about looks more than people currently think" is totally the same as "women care about looks".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 08:56 PM
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Well the solution is to leverage men's competitiveness against itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 06:28 PM
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The reason there's pushback to accusations that men are violent is because the people making those accusations are obviously not using the word "violence" as a neutral descriptor of force. You know that, It's the reason you keep calling it violence and never force.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 06:00 PM
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Any rule/law is just a suggestion without enforcement and enforcement is done trough force so the group that has a monopoly on force needs to agree to enforce rights for rights to exist. What are you confused about?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 01:56 PM
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As a man, I know what the outcome of trying to shame men who do well with women is, the guy doesn't care because he's getting what he wants from women, but it's not just pointless, women will pretty consistently label you an incel unless you bend over backwards to pretend like they had zero agency in a process where they have 50 times more leverage than the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 06:53 AM
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people give far less of a shit about “optimal evolutionary strategy” than you let on. riiight, if you don't consciously think it it's not real.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 06:44 AM
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You haven't identified why that's bad. If you need him to identify why that's bad beyond what he said, you're either making a nuanced point about optimal being relative to the individual or you unironically do not understand evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 06:38 AM
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If it was up to me, that would actually be an extremely serious crime that would land those girls literally in jail for the rest of their lives. It's one thing to do that to one person, but doing that to enough men you can make a business out of it is borderline death penalty worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:03 AM
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Okay, but you exist in reality and you can't just spend an infinite amount of time analyzing every possible option. so you have to make big picture decisions like "giving too much weight to attraction reduces my odds of finding a successful relationship at some point within my life."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:45 PM
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yeah those same men would have probably whined about being slaves and shit. It's like they are so misogynistic they think their lives matter or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:28 PM
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I agree, we should accelerate this nonsense towards it's unavoidable conclusion of self-destruction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:25 PM
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People definitely are getting fooled, just very slowly in the background because gradual changes don't matter, accelerationism is violence and it's not the fault of the employee that the CEO is a psycho.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 07:20 AM
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I don't think I've never met someone as obsessed with RP influencers as you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:30 AM
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The neutral situation was equality and the bad situation was being deprived of equality. Are you pretending to misunderstand?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:15 AM
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Let's say equality for women is perfectly neutral... A neutral situation is better than a bad situation right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 07:08 PM
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I think what society is slowly realising is that women just adjust very quickly to getting what they want and then ask for more while taking whatever they were given for granted. The way women are treated socially and their quality of life has basically just improved in the last century...I can't say the way women treat men has improved to match or that women act like their life has actually improved from getting what they want. So no, I don't think women are doing a great job with the cost-bene…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:10 AM
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Because this is a debate sub and you're arguing against someone that claimed ""Rude" includes anything which is unflattering to women as a group.". so if you provide a good example to the contrary that would be a good argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 10:27 AM
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Okay, can you come up with an example of something that's genuinely unflatering to women as a group and how someone would point it out "politely"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 02:21 AM
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So yeah if I seem unsympathetic maybe look at your own behaviour Right, you/women are unsympathetic because of men's behavior, but men are unsympathetic because they just are. riiiight. In reality, misandry seems to increase when misogyny decreases...which makes it pretty clear women are at best not innocent in this loop and likely the driving force.(female in-group bias)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 11:02 PM
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until they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 10:56 PM
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What it has yielded is a low-trust society No, a low-trust society yielded those results, including the results of women. I'm not bringing that up as a small nitpick, You create a high-trust society in day to day actions by doing your part in maintaining the idea that helping someone else will (indirectly) help you more than helping yourself...that feedback loop is the foundation most first world countries are built-on and it's that foundation that has made women's lives in first world countries…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 12:12 PM
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Do I have a victim mentality when I go "hmm, maybe it's a better idea to get a boat than to try to cross the ocean by swimming across it?" Because at some point, adults can look at a problem and go "yeah, I don't think I'm the problem" and that doesn't make them incapable of taking accountability. If anything the inability to recognize when you aren't the problem with something ironically requires more actual accountability in the modern world. A lot of people fight incredibly hard for the idea …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 08:28 PM
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Right, denying that you're responsible for everything bad that ever happens is the same as refusing to salt your food and then complaining it's unsalted. I'm sure glad you have that same energy when it comes to criticizing therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 04:41 AM
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Modern therapy acts like men's desires are flawed and if only they had better desires they would be happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 04:13 AM
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I'm a man, I've been told how important personal responsibility is 5000 times this week already. Do you really think telling men the same thing one more time is what's missing from this puzzle? Or do you think maybe as a society we should take a genuine look at the field for the first time since they said that being gay was a mental disorder?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 04:13 AM
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I love how you and all these other women are acknowledging mens problems and giving them sympathy, and yet everyone still has reples from men that are... mad that youre acknowledging their difficulties ? It doesn't come across as a genuine acknowledgement to most men because they have seen this pattern a 100 times in real life. Women will act like they care about some bad thing that happens to men...but then when actually confronted with that they don't follow-through. A good sign of that patter…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:58 AM
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Right, because if a man and a woman display the same behavior society definitely responds the same way so men just have to behave like women and they will be treated like women. I mean, obviously what I said is true when men do something wrong...if a woman were to do something wrong then obviously it's probably because a man forced her to and he's just trying to avoid accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:47 AM
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Nobody is grouping in the guys who can't get a date with the men who can get dates. I agree, it would be inconvenient for your beliefs if that was true...and it's obviously true...but obviously you can't be wrong...so obviously it must be that reality is wrong...and obviously that means the incels are to blame or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:27 AM
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They are trying to explain to you that it’s your problem to solve, not women’s problem to solve. Don't worry, that message is starting to get trough even tough men have a really hard time accepting it. But the result of men accepting it isn't a bunch of men saying that their problems are less important than everyone elses and trying to self-improve in all the ways women want them to. The solution men are ariving to is to start playing the same game women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:11 PM
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Are you perhaps 6'1 with a decent looking face and tattoos?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 09:27 PM
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I'm not sure you want that, because the identity men will settle on is most likely going to be one where they are the hero and women are the villain.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:47 PM
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I don't think it's hard to get men to walk into the door, It's hard to get men to walk into the door without basically giving up on the influence of feminism on the field. The problem is with modern therapy, not modern men and the constant assumption that men are the problem in every situation is definitely not helping their case.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:43 PM
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Okay, so have you pushed back on women reinforcing this dynamic or only men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:35 PM
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It's always "woman, find me a solution to my sexless life..... or else" That would have hit harder if you didn't give an example of you misinterpreting something as a threat. He made an argument by contradiction. i.e he showed that your logic leads to a conclusion you yourself don't agree with. You can disagree that this is the conclusion your logic leads to...but acting like it's a threat sounds like you're looking for an excuse to avoid his point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:28 PM
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The graph also showed the the vast majority of messages sent from women were to "bottom" men Bottom defined based on the median man or the average man? And more importantly, are you using messages as a percentage or the absolute number of messages sent? while 2/3 of messages from men were to the top 1/3 of women. "No matter how attractive a woman appears, we see similar messaging behavior. For men, those who are most attractive send the most messages, with the top 40% reaching out the most."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 05:48 AM
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I think if people were actually honest about these conversations...we essentially wouldn't be having them because the fixable part of the issues would get fixed and the unfixable parts would just be compensated instead of ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:10 AM
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utility is relative to your goals. If you want to have sex, sell products, gain political favors, then female validation is more useful than male validation. If you want to make the world a better place, male validation is more useful than female validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:27 PM
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dumb people have more immediate influence on society than smart people. Ignoring them is a mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:58 PM
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Some people are as intellectually lazy as you are suggesting and will just do whatever the current system tells them to do and will never question the feedback loop. But those people are a dying breed because their strategy obviously doesn't work, what is growing in popularity much faster is giving up on a broken system and trying to change it instead. So sure, the extreme end of the spectrum, the truly delusional people who think they are in perfect control of everything about their lives and e…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 06:15 PM
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Instead of going on a "WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY" rant on people, how about you have some self reflection on what your goals are and which women would be more likely to help you reach those goals. I mean, humanity has been around for a while, a lot of the modern problems we see are modern and didn't exist(or were far less significant) when we did things differently. It's pretty easy to see that there was a lot more of the things you claim don't work and a lot less of the things you claim work... So m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 05:49 AM
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and this gets missed by the aforementioned 'manosphere' communities in favor of stupid evopsych or w/e explanations To understand how technology impacts your brain, you have to understand both technology and your brain. the online world isn't creating women's desires, it's revealing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:56 AM
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We have a desire to maintain social order...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:08 PM
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their decisions would just kind of be random as fuck because people with tattoos are disproportionally mentally ill and extremely insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:40 AM
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So if someone has an interest in taking your wallet, that’s fundamentally no different from your interest in keeping it? Someone's interest in taking my wallet is a desire society dosn't enforce. My interest in keeping my wallet is a desire society does enforce. sigh
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:18 AM
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And if your answer to that is yes. My answer is yes. Then it leaves us to ask why is women having the same authority as men have “unfair” to you lot? Fairness doesn't imply that everyone gets the same amount of power. Authority comes with responsibility and it is unfair to let people who abuse their authority continue to have it. A good example of what a desire for power without responsibility looks like is someone refusing or failing to even acknowledge/understand when she has authority. No you…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:55 PM
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Men should mirror that energy - not by attacking women's rights but by nonviolent nonparticipation at scale. I agree because it minimizes costs and risk, but if your thought process is based on fairness, you haven't learned the lesson here which is that you shouldn't be fair to those who exploit fairness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 09:16 PM
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All you said was judgment still exists within a context of a debate. Yes, which goes both ways which means OP is allowed to criticize the women he chose to criticize and there's no inherent issue with that like her original comment implies. Repeating my point without actually acknowledging the implications it had over her initial point isn't "addressing" it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 09:07 PM
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The right to vote is authority over other people. The fact that you don't understand that says everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:09 PM
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OP used what women were saying in a debate sub as a proxy for what women in general feel even if they don't say it. There's a bunch of coherent ways to disagree with that, but instead she just randomly assumed this meant the guy came to a debate sub strictly looking for sympathy and affirmation and that somehow means his point should be dismissed. So no, her reply doesn't even try to address my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 03:57 PM
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The right to vote is definitely not just authority over yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:13 AM
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There's a not so serious theory about the ultimate test of someone's morality being wether they return shopping carts. I have my problems with it but what it does capture is the idea that principles matter more than their consequences and are more apparent when the stakes are low. So no, I'm not being "vague"(general) to try and hide what I actually believe, I'm being "vague" because I believe it's about the general principle and you can tell what someone's principles are by how they act when th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:11 AM
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Using the term “interests” in place of both “rights” and “desires” is your way of circumventing this flaw in your logic. Rights are just desires/interests that people agreed to enforce. They're not a magic spell that changes the fabric of the universe. You're getting lost in the abstractions and should go back to first principles for a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 01:41 AM
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let me ask you again, if women have shown they don't care about men's problems when they are given authority, why should men care about women's problems or give women authority over them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 01:24 AM
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Come up with an aspect of women's behavior that benefits women but negatively affects men more and start meaningfully policing themselves with similar energy to how they police men/expect men to police eachother when the situation is reversed. That would be a sign their claimed desire for equality and fairness is not a Greek gift. It's important that the women come up with it themselves because otherwise it's the equivalent of a teacher forcing you to write an apology letter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 01:22 AM
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that's cute, but obviously it doesn't address the point I made...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 01:20 AM
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"it's just a prank(debate), bro" Just because something is a debate doesn't mean you get to say anything without being judged for having said it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:54 PM
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I don't think the last line is crazy, it's a perfectly natural question for anyone who views men as human beings. So let me ask you again, if women have shown they don't care about men's problems when they are given authority, why should men care about women's problems or give women authority over them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:40 PM
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No, that's what women want and the point is that men should care about what women want as much as women care about what men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:35 PM
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the look of confidence is far more important than confidence in almost every facet of life that includes social interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 11:43 PM
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No women actually talk this way So? This is describing reality and reality doesn't change just because women talk about it differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 11:42 PM
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In some sense I agree... if every man genuinely tried his hardest it would destroy almost every illusion that this is a problem that can be solved by men improving and all of a sudden you would have way more men trying to come up with actual solutions that challenge the broken system instead of just trying to optimize their outcome within it. So I agree with you in an accelerationist sense, but that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:08 PM
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This subtle attempt at shaming relies on me believing in the 2nd strategy, so I'm glad you agree. Anyways, I could reframe the statement to emphasize that the harm can be indirect and not technically anyone's fault by changing the word harm to something like negative consequences. We could even take it further and talk about wether losing opportunity costs count as a negative. But I believe that appealing to people who tone-police is a great way to ensure you will waste a bunch of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 10:29 AM
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Your strategy: I pursue my selfish goals and that happens to cause harm to people around me. People around me stop caring about supporting me People around me pursue their selfish goals that happen to cause harm to me. Suprised Pikachu face My life gets worse overall The strategy of every functional society ever: I care about people besides myself. People around me also care about people besides themselves. we cooperate and punish people who are too selfish. Our lives get better overall. In the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:07 PM
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There's definitely a genetic component that influences who is more susceptible to feminist propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 08:37 PM
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Unfortunately you’re not going to be able to accomplish this goal thru shame. Why not? I've seen shame work pretty consistently at accomplishing this goal? Of course when I talk about shame I don't mean 2% of the people on the internet calling you a whore and getting downvoted, which seems to be what women imagine when they brush shame away like it's trivial. We are simply living in an era No, we don't just happen to live in an era where you can do whatever you want. But I guess that someone who…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 08:34 PM
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I didn't say wording didn't matter, I believe this specific pattern is nitpicking and not a genuine problem with the wording. If I say "people have two legs" no one sane interprets that as me saying "All people have two legs". It's a shortcut in communication people* use all the time and there's almost never any confusion around it...and if there is people just ask you to be more specific and it gets resolved pretty trivially. Except when people don't like what is being said...then all of a sudd…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 07:44 PM
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Think about it from a woman's perspective. She doesn't have a crystal ball that tells her which men are violent. Men also don't have a crystal ball telling them which men are violent and men are more likely to be victimized by strangers than women. So, why should we think about it from a woman's perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:48 PM
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You're right, the sky is pink and I'm sorry for implying it's blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:19 PM
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“A lot of women on dating apps ghost.” is a pattern and open to discussion “Women are flaky and can’t communicate.” is when “women aren’t a monolith” comes in I don't believe women are so stupid they think not stating "a lot" before a general term like women is some huge difference. They are just nitpicking to avoid a discussion they don't want to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:15 PM
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I think they are in terms of limited economic opportunities, conditional right to vote, harsher punishment for the same crime, contributing more in taxes than is spent on them, fewer reproductive rights and less bodily autonomy, etc... I could keep going but honestly, if you're an adult in 2026, this is all stuff you've probably heard a thousand times already and chosen to ignore/sweep under the rug...so I don't think there's a point to continuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:10 PM
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it’s not a political manipulation that kept men as second class citizens. What do you mean? I'm pretty sure the reason men are second class citizens in modern society is because of feminism(aka political manipulation)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:15 PM
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It doesn't makes sense because most people already think manosphere content is cringe and dumb if you literally call it manosphere content and use specific manosphere terms...but if you don't do that most people agree. Hell most women will just go on redpill/blackpill tirades if you let them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 11:38 AM
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I don't know if they are controlled opposition, but something that could be done is have them fail more often. Basically despite all their theoretical flaws, they still end up getting the outcomes they desired more often than you would expect if you were bluepilled. Something that makes it possible for them to not be controlled oppositions is that people who hate the pills are paying an insane amount of attention to the easiest targets so that's where the conversation naturally goes to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 11:05 AM
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women like you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:38 AM
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Incels are less bigoted than feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 12:30 PM
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If I could switch one variable about any man to drastically improve his dating outcomes it would be his sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 10:36 AM
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Honesty implies you have enough social skills to understand the long-term implications of your social choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:39 AM
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I'd rather be Cedric, but I'd prefer just leaving her in that shitty situation instead of taking advantage of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 09:32 AM
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Men can traipse around impregnating women left and right and leave it to the state the take care of them. That benefits the small fraction of the male population that can/wants to do that. The rest of the male population are paying for it one way or another without any benefits. And men also benefit from government support. Everyone benefits from government support in absolute terms, but what matters to this discussion is who benefits RELATIVELY. the amount of money that is spent by the governme…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 07:45 AM
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I think a big part of why women think it's not women that are red-pilling men is because they essentially start with the default assumption that women in general are wonderful and the bad apples are the exceptions. So if men start noticing large scale (negative) trends in women's behavior, it can't be an issue with women as a group, it must be that the men are misled into believing a small minority of women are actually representative of women as a group. And from there an explanation like "oh t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:59 AM
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The post is about the happiness of current relationships not overall happiness of society I know, that choice of focusing on happiness within relationships instead of overall happiness is precisely what I'm criticizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 02:32 AM
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trans women are more likely to integrate socially largely because female circles, in comparison, tend to be more supportive, including and affirming on average. Female social circles are not very supportive of men who don't agree with their bigoted beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 02:30 AM
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you’d see I’m focusing on the quality of relationships and that’s my core argument. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:04 PM
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There’s far more intentional dating going on and happiness seems to be far more of a priority than ever before Must be why the average person is less happy. This is like cutting all the small trees in a forest and instead of concluding there's less forest you say that the average tree is taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:45 PM
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No, You're proposing a solution that minimizes suffering for everyone but the victims. I'd much rather do the opposite and that would mean something like having much more serious social consequences for Chad banging a bunch of women and women who spend their 20s chasing after Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:27 AM
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About as many as there are good choices out of 100 women. (I actually think it's higher, but let's meet in the middle)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:23 AM
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Functionally what dating apps sell is a chance to meet women for men. So the fundamental thing dating apps are trying to do is appeal to women as much as possible within the constraints of reality without completely driving away men. All the things that women think they would like have already been tried and have already failed... The apps are just an avatar of women's desires and if you want to actually fix the problem it's women you need to look at.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:38 AM
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There's a reason they moved away from those: Women think that's what they want until they actually go trough the process and start feeling like the "incels" and "misogynists" were right about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:18 AM
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If I have 100 options and I constantly pick one of the worst option available, that's says something about my ability to make decisions. If I have 1 option and that option sucks, that says something about my options not my ability to make decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:31 PM
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I agree, no woman has ever complained about misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:23 PM
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You can tell which side actually has it worse by whichever side doesn't feel the need to argue both sides have different problems and it's impossible to compare. So yeah, men have it worse and I don't think there's a real debate around it, just a lot of relativism on one side and a lot of "If I speak, I am in big trouble" on the other with a sprinkle of people being honest. I don't know how to answer "why" things are that way because I don't know how far I should go. You could say it's because s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:43 AM
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I don't know any women like that so I don't understand how you guys are constantly surrounded by them. The overwhelming majority of women I know that are like that, don't think they or women like them are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:50 AM
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Anyways, I'll give a practical example of this I've seen on this sub recently. Force doctrine is a concept that is pretty objectively true and has a lot of different implications depending on the exact context it's brought up. You could bring up force doctrine as a thinly veiled threat agaist women(or men) or to show that men agreed with feminism or that men are unlikely to abuse their advantages. It's highly dependent on context, but a lot of women interpret it as a threat regardless of context…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:49 PM
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That’s why it always stands out to me when some men talk about how easy it is for women to “vet better.” It sounds very book smart. Like someone who understands the theory, but hasn’t really been in those situations. Men and women actually vet differently and men are better at it in practice. The main difference is that Women judge things faster than men and give more weight to their initial feelings than men. By example there's a study on detecting dark triad personality traits. When the only i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:49 PM
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"Making money is the goal of working. If you make money with your job, the job was good enough to pay you." -sweatshop owner
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 07:42 PM
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I don't think other women are a blind spot to women. I'll reply twice because it's just crazy to me that a literal moderator of a sub like this doesn't believe in WAW/female in-group bias. Obviously you've seen the data and heard those arguments a thousand times...but you still don't believe because you've seen women be mean to a small subset of women who arguably aren't even doing a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:50 AM
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You shouldn't brag about not understanding what he said lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 01:04 AM
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Usually I see women generalize from a small number of men to a large number of men while men generalize from a large number of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 01:03 AM
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I've seen women rip the hell out of tradwife "pickmes" If your first example is that women harshly judge women who commit the horrible sin of agreeing with men....I think that actually shows how much of a blindspot women have for other women and how much misandry there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 12:53 AM
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Calling having a spine and not just willingly getting taken advantage of "victim mentality" was such a clever move from people trying to manipulate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 11:26 PM
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It annoys me how much women pretend to not understand the concept of force doctrine and act like it's a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:09 AM
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Because what you are doing is still the D- deflect. Dude, you're not even bothering to check which person you're responding to anymore and just kind of repeating yourself. Maybe chill and make sure someone is in the room with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:04 AM
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You didn't respond to what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:42 AM
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“As long as there are other problems, this must be ignored!” "I'm pretending to not understand the concept of prioritization"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:35 AM
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No I didn't. The fact you think the only thing you need to be protected from is men is testament to men doing a good job protecting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 04:05 PM
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I'd argue that men are protectors at heart moreso than women because they actually created relatively permanent solutions to things that made life unsafe for people. A group that just cared about their immediate self-interest would have kept the problems they sold the solution to to keep benefiting off of it and men didn't do that. Ofc the end result isn't a bunch of women who apreciate the figurative fences, it's a bunch of women who take safety for granted and assume every fence is there to op…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 03:52 PM
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Without it i would've lived with a husband who would likely have beaten me. And without men's protection you wouldn't have been born because we would have gone extinct a long time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 03:30 PM
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man if you could get an attractive woman while being fat then what are you crying about? It's about the principle.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 07:07 AM
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Other people's opinions about u aren't your business and mostly can easily be ignored if u aren't looking for validation. It will always be crazy to me how much women just kind of take the existence of society for granted. Like to them it's just something that happens no matter what and only your personal decisions matter. Until society doesn't prevent something from mildly inconveniencing them, then society is very real and needs to do something.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 04:41 AM
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I'll try to steelman a little. Psychologically every extra hour of work you do is worse because you have less and less energy, bandwith etc... so even if his partner only saves him 5 hours while technically costing him 10 hours, she's actually making the hours he works much more efficient allowing him to constantly get promoted and not burn out. So it ends up being a huge net positive for him anyways. Obviously this is still a bad argument but it's the best I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 02:56 AM
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At the end of the day, the government doesn't have a monopoly on violence, men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 02:46 AM
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Why don't you want to live in a community that shares your values, They don't share my values. You think and act like they do because it's easier to dismiss arguments by exaggerating them but in practice the theoretical feminist that actually believes in equality as a principle rather than a social weapon has more in common with me than you or the average Amish/Aghani/etc... person. Also, This argument goes both ways. If people who don't believe in what the majority believes need to leave the co…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:54 PM
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Please keep saying stuff like this, it really helps my beliefs gain popularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 08:42 PM
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"An analogy is a literary device and cognitive tool that explains a complex idea by comparing it to a familiar one, highlighting shared, structural similarities rather than just appearances. More complex than similes or metaphors, analogies (e.g., "A is to B as C is to D") explain principles by demonstrating that two different things share a similar relationship."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 08:39 PM
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yes, that's literally what I was talking about? I'm not going to dumb it down, you can figure it out yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:57 PM
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Because I'm trying to explain the logic which is independent of it's magnitude. Seems like a pretty basic communication pattern most people understand by highschool?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:48 PM
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It's the dream until it happens and all of a sudden a whole lot of women find out the hard way that their job in HR existed because the average man cared about appealing to women not because it was actually useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:38 PM
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I love the irony of this ragebait. He starts by criticizing people for black and white thinking and then proceeds to make an insanely black and white argument. "people who kill themselves have always existed therefore the movie birdbox is basically a documentary."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:28 PM
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He would know lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:36 PM
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Men did all of those things for money and more, and they got it, you don't get to demand attraction when they were already been paid, and you are not the man in the question either way. I think this is a good example of focusing on the immediate causes and not considering anything past the first order. People don't work for money, money is an INSTRUMENTAL goal meant to help you achieve terminal goals. Since people aren't acquiring money for the sake of acquiring money, they absolutely get to say…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 05:18 PM
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The reality is that modern dating was not designed for women. Dating apps, sites, social media heavily emphasize visual stimuli, which is not the primary motivator of women's sexual arousal. In the past, online dating actually put much less emphasis on visual stimuli and a lot more emphasis on the things women claim to care about. do you know why they stopped? <image> Women very consistently understate how much they care about looks because they subconsciously convert "looks" into personality tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 07:45 AM
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I completely agree with this from the male perspective, but I think it's a different story for women. There are still plenty of environments that allow repeated casual interactions between two people, those environments are just more optional than before and don't force women to participate and push past the boring parts of slow-burn attraction. So it doesn't work for men because so few women are interested in forcing themselves to do that...but if the woman is the one pursuing it it's a viable …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 05:02 AM
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I know this is a joke but the level of misandry required to actually believe misandry doesn't exist would be something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 04:06 AM
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You shouldn't lean into the whimsy with people who are likely to use it as an excuse/weapon for other parts of their behavior and astrology is pretty much all about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:46 PM
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His organization didn’t receive government funding Why didn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:47 PM
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Plausible deniability sure is a powerful weapon
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:35 PM
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The least nuanced take is the idea that emotions are basically random and not worth even trying to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:58 PM
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Scientists have basically stopped trying to prove evolution at this point. The data is clear enough already that there's basically zero people who would change their minds because of more data. The fact you're comparing it to a sports competition says a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:56 PM
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There's a very small borderline irrelevent subset of women who are open about having the kind of flaws that men complain about... I get the feeling a lot of your confusion stems from you thinking men are talking about that small subset of women when they are actually describing the behavior of women you think are good women because they say they are good women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:01 AM
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So no, you can't. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:55 PM
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Can you tell me what my argument even is?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:22 PM
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Only specifying “male” when you talk about this devalues the feelings of lonely women, etc. and that’s not ok. No, it is okay and it's how you fix the actual problem. As a society we have been giving a lot more weight to women's feelings in the last century and it turns out a lot of their feelings were deeply misguided and had unintended consequences. The loneliness epidemic is very much one of those unintended consequences and you have to accept that women's feelings were wrong if you want to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:17 PM
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It's somehow worse than circular logic because instead of drawing a conclusion from a premise that proves the premise you just directly claimed the premise proved itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 04:50 PM
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Women don't find it comforting that men will fork a lamp post with a wig. We know, no need to brag about how privileged women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 04:44 PM
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If it weren’t hard to hide then the man-o-circles wouldn’t be filled with a bunch of boys bitching about it- they’d be too busy pulling. Yes, because of course if you hide your bitterness you automatically get good outcomes. they prove the meme true AGAIN: Your passive aggressive poisoning the well meme will always be "true" because it's circular logic with a heavy helping of confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 04:25 PM
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Well In real life I do a pretty good job of predicting the choices of women, ofc that means women think I don't understand them if I'm honest because my explanation for their behavior isn't the explanation they tell themselves. Do you feel like you sympathize/empathize with them? I understand and empathize with women's perspective the same way I understand and empathize with "let them eat bread" level rhetoric. If you're trying to make a "how can you expect sympathy if you aren't offering it?" a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 01:36 PM
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I'm sure the dude with a neck tattoo is going to treat you well. Slay queen
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 01:32 AM
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It's pretty common that when you actually try your theories in practice it turns out the factors that actually matter aren't the factors you were hoping mattered.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 12:57 AM
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If we did that we very objectively would be on a clock to extinction with no way out. I don't value the well being of individual humans enough to sacrifice humanity for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:13 PM
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And then watch it backfire: Are you 100% certain you understand what controlled opposition means?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 01:48 AM
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Generalisation aren't inherently good or bad. Generalizing uncommon behaviors to the majority is bad, generalizing common behaviors to the majority is not. In my experience women do the former a lot more than men especially when it comes to violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:05 PM
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People who think they don't need external validation are generally amongst the people who need external validation the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:01 PM
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The Redpill will claim that women are “hypergamous” for being most attracted to the most physically attractive class of men. Everyone is most attracted to the most attractive people. You know that's not hypergamy and it's not what women are being criticized for. Prefering getting paid $10 instead of $5 is not greed, but insisting on getting paid $10 instead of $5 might be. Hypergamy is the same, prefering Chad to an average guy is not hypergamy, "I'd rather be alone than with anyone that's not C…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 10:18 PM
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It's just a pretty normal human emotion, are you asking why we evolved to be that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 08:23 PM
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I feel like you're treating dating as if it existed in a vacuum. Dating is just one of the elements of the market...so just because you have more leverage in that area doesn't mean it's a good idea to exploit that leverage as much as you can because if you do you might end up incentivizing the people you're doing it to to start doing it back in areas where they are the ones with more leverage. Men "yapping about feminism this feminism that" is a very mild form of men doing exactly that. Stop hat…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 08:21 PM
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so how about we overthrow the government before checking out ? If you tried to overthrow the government now, you would not have the numbers to have a reasonable chance of success and it would give the government an excuse to do something about it. The government heavily relies on young men to do anything of substance so giving up hurts them a lot more in the long term than anything that would give them an excuse to act.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 07:59 PM
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I mean the most harmful thing to children is single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 05:53 PM
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That last post made women look pretty bad, I wonder how long before it gets removed for some trivial reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 05:49 PM
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That's haggling. Changing the market value of something trough addressing society-level incentives is obviously different from just trying to talk down the price. For women, as a group, the priority isn't to have a relationship, even if it's bad. It's to live well, If women want to maintain their quality of life, they have to provide something that makes men as a collective continue to provide it. That used to be the prospect of a relationship/familly but if that's not on the table, things are g…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:54 PM
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Isn’t the gender stuff just a distraction for us all to ignore the economic problems and growing divides. No, economic problems are mostly downstream from gender stuff or more broadly relationship stuff. If I was a billionaire, I'd love for midwits to focus on trying to stop inequality directly instead of addressing the root causes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:51 PM
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Lie to a group of people when they are children. Once they figure out you were lying try to shift the blame on them for not catching on that you were lying. Say they should stop believing in things you disagree with and expect them to listen to you. women coffee.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:58 PM
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The crowd that gives the respectful guy attention is purely a hypothetical. It's not purely a hypothetical, I've experienced it a few times...the only problem is that I think it was literally all nerdy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:54 PM
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Haggling Not talking about haggling. I'm talking about looking at the big picture incentives. That's the role it plays in the metaphor. I know, I'm explaining that the metaphor is missing something that's relevent. Becoming a billionaire is not a reasonable expectation out of life so people aren't going to care as much about lowering it's cost as something they feel is a reasonable expecation out of life. The fact that your metaphor ignored that isn't a justification for ignoring it. It holds th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 01:19 PM
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When the cost of something is too high, you shouldn't buy it but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to figure out a way to make the cost more reasonable. A lot of people don't seem to think of that as a viable solution but I think it's literally one of the biggest difference between humans and other animals. it could be fun to have billions Wanting a relationship with an average woman is not equally unrealistic as wanting billions of dollars. I'm not obsessed over the fact that no one is giving…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:07 AM
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The more everything gets worse, the more resentment towards women the average man has, the more likely the average man is to stop chasing the carrot and once enough men do that men win.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:48 AM
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Victory doesn't look like having more resentment and worse social functioning. The path to victory often does. How many examples are there of the side that eventually lost being complacent and having fun until shit hits the fan while the side that eventually won was very serious and unhappy the whole time?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:38 AM
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For a side you claim is winning they certainly seem angry, bitter and resentful. Fighting in a war you didn't want is not fun even if you know you'll win in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:35 AM
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A long time ago feminism started gaining traction...that's not the start of the gender war. Feminism gained traction and kept pushing a bunch of values and principles that essentially boiled down to equality, fairness, etc... Men despite being in a position of power and standing to lose some of that power actually did it anyways. They didn't get a thank you or anything but that was fine, after all not oppressing someone isn't anything to be proud of right? Over time things got fair enough that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:32 AM
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Yeah, I do think it's clear women are unwilling to meet in the middle so men should stop assuming next time will be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 08:10 PM
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It’s like women aren’t willing to do the same for men. This is the basic lesson men should learn from the feminism experiment we are nearing the end of.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:58 PM
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Where are her adjectives? Literally in the same sentence stating his? "By example a short or ugly man is going to be belittled a lot more for that than a woman would for just having boobs or being short/ugly." I shouldn't have said or, but I doubt that's why you're confused. Compare him to an obese single mom or a woman with a high body count The conversation was specifically not about actions. I guess being fat is not an action but it's obviously a consequence of your actions so that would be b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:46 PM
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I mean it isn't for having boobs obviously but It's definitely not just about actions. By example a short or ugly man is going to be belittled a lot more for that than a woman would for just having boobs or being short/ugly. Stop pretending that the women-are-wonderful effect isn't a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:46 AM
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Do you think that men are belittled or assumed to be an idiot less than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:05 AM
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When you look at situations where men and women pretty objectively have it equally shitty, women complain about it disproportionally more than men. So complaints are not a useful metric when trying to compare across the sexes...or at least you can't use it 1 to 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:14 AM
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Where’s the being constantly belittled or assumed to be an idiot because you have boobs That's very much also an upgrade from men's situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:11 AM
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The idea that struggling to form meaningful relationships is a first world problem is a first world perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:09 AM
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Why are you envious of what fucked up people are doing? The fucked up behavior is that they are attracted to assholes...so if they stop being attracted to assholes they are not fucked up people anymore. But also : For the same reason someone that's starving won't say no to basically any food that's edible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:07 AM
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Riight...I'm guessing you believe anyone who disagrees with you on anything is an evil rapist transphobe that's so stupid they can't remember if their first name is spelled adolph or adolf. So I'm not going to bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:29 PM
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men threatening to rape or assault you on basically every online platform you join Why exactly would you need to be a woman to see that? Obviously if it's public you can just observe it independently of your gender...if it's private, it's pretty trivially easy to pretend to be a woman online.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:07 PM
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woman refers to someone's gender while female refers to their sex. That's why postgender woman sounds like a joke but postgender female would just sound like aposematic coloring.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:17 PM
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Dude, you're talking about the usa, not some 3rd world country like brittain that doesn't even have freedom of speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:11 PM
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poor men vs poor women...but it doesn't matter because if poor men win vs poor women it takes 2 seconds for billionaires to fall. If poor men somehow win against billionaires, it won't matter because women will still demand the things that lead to billioanires so in 2 weeks well be back to the same situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:05 AM
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I agree, it makes the dude look somewhat like a pedophile and the girl looks like she has an adult baby fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:04 AM
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Oppressing and abusing half the population is “less harm”? What he said was that the average person on here would rather have force be used on them than admit their ideas caused a lot of harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:33 PM
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You would have to be a pretty bad scientist to base your judgment on only the downsides of traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:17 PM
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The satire is pretty much entirely based on the idea that the people being superficially presented as the good guys are actually not the good guys. So, if that's clearly irrelevent what was the point of the satire?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:09 PM
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The concept of prioritization is not going away, get used to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 03:54 PM
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If the cost of making $2 is $3, the fact that people are complaining about it instead of just mindlessly throwing away their 3 bucks is a sign they have a functional IQ not that they are lazy. Now obviously in real life it's not as obvious that you're trading $3 worth of effort for 2$ worth of reward but the debate should be about wether it's actually a good deal instead of just assuming it's a good deal and that the only possible reason someone wouldn't take it is because they are lazy. Btw, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 07:13 AM
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Most of the people that are called Nazis today have more in common with the people that literally fought the Nazis than the people calling them Nazis. Justifiable criticism can be weaponized on a social level and a lot of the people who bring up those specific points have a history of using things like that as a weapon for social leverage rather than an actual attempt at understanding reality. Basically at some point you understand "They aren't complaining about Chad McRapist, they are looking f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:17 AM
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ok, what's a position you don't think is a midwit position?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:03 PM
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If men don't want to go to school thats not on women as a whole. If women pushed for the changes that made men not want to go to school...that's very much on women not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:36 AM
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How is it true? Men are more physically powerful than women yet they literally have no power as a class of people. Just because men could abuse their power doesn't mean they do. I think a lot of women would abuse any power they could(assuming they would get away with it) so instead of assuming men are not abusing their power they project their own behavior on men and assume men must be powerless.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:33 AM
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The mods have a side and they find excuses to ban people who don't agree with them... especially if they make a decent point. Like at some point there was a debate about dating apps being bad for women so a dude created a fake profile and showed that in a very short amount of time he found multiple decent men. The mods banned it for some trivial excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 03:58 AM
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the midwits are the bad guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 03:02 AM
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By and large porn seems less grifty "traditional" porn? sure...but things like onlyfans are a different story. There's a basically infinite amount of porn available for free...when you go to onlyfans it's probably because you want to have a more direct "relationship" with the person. Selling an illusion of a relationship is an insane level of grift.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 03:00 AM
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You're joking right? No, I genuinely believe it's easier for a woman to attract the average man than it is for a man to attract the average woman... Most of the beauty standards women blame on men are really beauty standards women have for eachother.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:52 AM
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Starship troopers IQ chart very low IQ: Satire? the federation are the good guys low to average IQ: It's obviously satire, there's no good guys midwits: It's satire but the bugs are the good guys, false flag! high IQ: It's satire but the federation are the good guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:20 AM
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I'm aware. I think sending the message instead of just immediately unmatching is a waste of time though. Cleaning the pool a little bit is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:08 AM
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Let's put things into perspective: At any time men can impose strict beauty standards on women and women can't do anything to prevent it. Yet men choose not to do that...and women's response to that is to enforce (very harsh) beauty standards on men and mock men for not liking it. You don't have to be Sun Tzu to realize how bad of an idea that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:25 AM
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"I promise you that bombs exploding and killing people is not new, at all" -Some dude in 1945 probably
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:17 AM
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Are you still talking about the Louis Theroux propaganda piece?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:14 AM
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I disagree with you on where this leads. Yes, it will keep intensifying for a while, but humans are smart and don't solve problems head on like this for very long. Eventually once enough people can't keep up with the competition/incentives, what happens is that people start to attack the incentives themselves in some way. i.e we make rules and regulations, we change social norms, we leverage other incentives against the incentives we don't like, etc.. of course that's the optimist in me, there's…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:12 AM
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There's likely a genetic component to it because after all gay men also have higher average IQs and that shouldn't be influenced by effort.(not that capacity for effort isn't genetic, but that's a different discussion) Anyways, with that aside the more interesting question is : "Why do gay men put in effort while straight men don't?"... imo there's 2 main reasons because men have lower "bare minimum" standards. If you don't meet the minimum standard even with effort, effort is a net negative. Ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:02 PM
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Not playing along with bad faith, lazy and intellectually dishonest advice doesn't make people lose empathy for you, it makes them stop pretending they had any in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:03 PM
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Perfectly reasonable level of generalization: "what difference is it if she's fucking 500 guys or he's on gear and just making shit up to get views?" But it would be completely unreasonable to say that someone who doesn't own a subscription service could be similar in a way to someone that does. Thanks for your wisdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:52 AM
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I thought you made a small mistake and chose to give you the benefit of the doubt instead of nitpicking you. No, Louis Theroux doesn't operate Netflix, porn stars and redpill influencers don't usually operate the platforms they post on either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:06 AM
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Netflix?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:45 AM
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I mean by that logic there's no fundamnetal difference between red pill influencers and Louis Theroux either right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:37 AM
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That's a weird way to say "I don't want to engage in good faith".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:34 PM
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This means no rolling back on women’s rights, no limiting the individual rights and freedoms of others, no moral and social policing, no enforcement of laws or rules, no control or desire to control how people might feel or act. This is an unreasonable standard as virtually all problems a society faces is dealt with in a way that breaks this standard... Like just on a trivial technical level I don't know how you go from women not being allowed to vote to women being allowed to vote without Witho…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:10 PM
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or where one of the participants has been groomed from a young age to give up their autonomy and accept an imbalance of power. Feminism has been grooming young men into giving up their autonomy and accepting an imbalance of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:52 PM
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I mean sure, there's a ton of our instincts that don't work well in the current environment...the example I usually use is our desire for sugar. But, I'd argue fairness becomes more not less important as the size of your civilization grows.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:27 PM
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You're right, that's why I said basically instead of just necessary. I thought about talking about ants but chose not to because that kind of nuance didn't feel important to the point being made. To be clear: I don't think ants are the only exception either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:10 PM
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It is a competition but you're assuming there are rules that aren't actually there. Basically you imagine it has to be a "fair" one vs one situation where the guy with the best genes win. i.e "Bob is the strongest so Bob wins". The reality is "Kyle and Karl can work together to kill Bob, so it's in Bob's best interest to offer something to Kyle and Karl that's fair enough Kyle and Karl don't kill him." That's why despite evolution not technically caring about fairness it still pops up all the ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:40 AM
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i deal with men, who are cruel and unkind. I deal with women who are cruel and unkind. Your point? No, you don't. You're comparing to the hostily of nature here...if humans were that cruel and unkind people would attempt to murder you on a daily basis. sure, that's why there was patriarchy for centuries, yeah, right. Yes, patriarchy was a relatively fair system compared to the modern world. My rent and bills are due soon. You're taking for granted the structure of society. Claiming you're indepe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:25 AM
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From an evolutionary perspective, they were never meant to be. From an evolutionary perspective, fairness is basically a necessary element for a specie to meaningfully cooperate. For humans specifically, our perception of fairness is literally what we evolved to believe in, It's literally what were meant to be in an evolutionary sense. Anyways, you don't get to apply principles only when they are convenient. So If you argue that fairness doesn't matter, you have no right to complain when people …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:09 AM
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I think you should switch the IQs for the incels and chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:13 AM
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Even looking further back in history, the term "collateral damage" was invented by the US to make civilian deaths palatable to the general american public. Collateral damage as a concept is older than written language. While I'm sure it's possible a specific term was created to remind people of an old concept, real life isn't an anime and collateral damage was always a thing and trying to avoid it at all costs is straight up evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:22 AM
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I wouldn't call a struggle for equal rights nonsense. I wouldn't either, I said feminism was nonsense. Those things are a sign of a successful society because people aren't in a survival state and can afford to pay attention to personal fulfillment/emotional needs. Are you agreeing with me or disgreeing?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:20 PM
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Widespread adoption of feminism is one of the strongest indicators that a country is an advanced, wealthy one. So is spending a lot of resources on useless things like entertainment. Societies that are doing really well can afford nonsense like feminism while societies that are struggling can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:41 PM
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a lot of bluepillers are basically engaging in attrition tactics instead of real debates.(i.e lilith spamming the same non-argument 50times, all the female users engaging in shit like tone policing or pretending they are being threatened whenever they don't have a real argument against something, changing their definitions of stuff based on what is convenient in the moment, etc...) The mods are almost all bluepillers so the rules don't get enforced evenly at all and over time this takes it's tol…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 06:28 PM
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For all the complaints of women wanting the top 20% of men, the complainers want the top 20% of women. Everyone would rather have something better than something worse...that's not what women are being criticized for. It's the level of entitlement they feel towards getting the best that's being criticized.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:32 PM
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"treating women like people" = Give women all the benefits of being a woman, all the benefits of being a top 20% man and never actually treat them like you would an average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:44 PM
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I think I'm weird because I find the inverse of pedophilia equally creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:24 PM
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That reminds me of a guy that was 6'3 who got in a car accident and had pretty severe brain damage to the point of being paralyzed on one side of his body and being unable to form full sentences. Even tough he was not successful with women anymore, it was disturbing how long it took women hitting on him to realize what was going on. Like men changed their behavior apropriately pretty much as soon as he tried to say one sentence and failed...the women could talk with him for multiple minutes befo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 08:58 PM
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Surely given the way women on here talk about height, there will be at least a singular example of a bellow average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 08:48 PM
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Damn, he's basically dating his daughter lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 08:39 PM
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It's the inability to adapt to modern women's standards that is the failing Ok, so you're saying that modern women's standards are a common denominator. The man himself is still the common denominator because of his inability to adapt. You literally just stated the man wasn't the only common denominator?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 08:02 PM
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Women as the choosier and less needy gender are really at liberty to define dating terms, and it is up to men to adapt. Yes, because the laws of physics say that dating exists in a vacuum rather than because men have chosen to treat dating as existing in a vacuum.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 08:02 PM
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I’m a little (actually, very) confused. How does equality = no morality? he's not saying "equality = no morality" he's saying "if you have no morality, then equality means xyz". You know when women keep yelling about how men aren't entitled to anything from them?He is basically making that same argument but from a male perspective. Before you start arguing about the general point: I don't even agree with him, I'm just pointing out you're not arguing against what he actually said.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 03:11 AM
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"so they redefined objectification to basically just mean sexual objectification."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 12:35 AM
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Men are objectified more than women...but women only care about problems that affect women so they redefined objectification to basically just mean sexual objectification. It's similar to how "bodily autonomy" basically means "your choice about which medical operations are done to your body" to people who only ever heard the concept in the context of feminism and maybe an hospital show.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 10:54 PM
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Last I checked, women don’t have control over ovulation. They do have control over who ejaculates in them. If someone rapes them then that's obviously a different story. Stop objectifying women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 10:45 PM
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Can't makeout with anyone for a whole damn week. A whole week of experiencing something still better than being an incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 10:15 PM
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You can be bluepill and pro lookmaxxing Put down the gun mr.Astronaut.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 10:11 PM
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I disagree, I think stupid women incapable of controlling their emotions usually have bigger chests.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 07:24 PM
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I think a better analogy for women would be that they are at home where tap water is available but they want fiji water.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 07:15 PM
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You understand women can think they're in a swamp while not actually being in one right? Or do you just assume women's feelings are just perfect measures of what is true?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 06:02 AM
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I think it's because society subconsciously understands that men are really important on a boring almost "invisible" level and if enough men just give up, things are going to go south real quick. That's why so much of the hate is directed towards groups of men like incels who are statistically less violent than the average population. If the fear was about men lashing out, it would be directed at the kind of men that actually do trend towards higher violence...but a lot of society is actually ce…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:24 AM
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"But, I did have breakfast this morning"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:41 AM
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Feminism (i.e. blue pill) has fought for equality ad infinitum Feminism (i.e. blue pill) has claimed to have fought for equality ad infinitum*
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:10 AM
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I think it's equally or more reasonable than the default response to pregnancy being that the father has to pay unless the mother gets an abortion. I also didn't say the default resonse to pregnancy should be abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:06 AM
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You can’t reasonably expect her to pay the full cost of the child if she opts not to abort. that sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 01:04 AM
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That's not how that works. Everyone has to use their body to earn money, it's not specific to men. why does it matter if it's specific to men? It's still taking away men's bodily autonomy regardless. When a woman works to earn money to pay her bills do you consider that a violation of her bodily autonomy No because she's choosing to work rather than being forced to do it under threat from the government.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 01:03 AM
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Yeah paying for stuff sucks but it isn't even close to the same as having someone grow inside your body. that's not a bodily autonomy issue? The woman chose to become pregnant. The government not aborting her baby is not denying her of bodily autonomy, it's denying the doctor of bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:58 AM
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Bodily autonomy isn't really about what things you might do (by moving your body around in and interacting with the world) That's actually exactly what bodily autonomy is. Your definition is basically just the feminist idea of it not the serious definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:51 AM
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Nobody is entitled to... Who said men were entitled to it? Men going "No, I don't think this deal is working for me" is perfectly within what they are entitled to do. If that happens to have disastrous consequences for women, that's not the men's fault anymore than when women refuse the deal men are offering and it has disastrous consequences for men. If women want men to do what they want, they have to actually offer a deal that men believe is worth it because that's how modern society is suppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:24 PM
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I looked at the trailer...Is the documentary meaningfully different or is it just 2 hours of an arrogant prick asking "hard hitting"(gotcha) questions? Like, he's obviously not above talking to a camera but he makes fun of someone for talking to a camera. In the context of the actual documentary, is this supposed to be him making fun of himself or is he just retarded?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 05:29 PM
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mildly Annoyed and bored would be a better description of my feelings towards this discussion but I doubt it matters because obviously you're just looking for some cheap way to dismiss stuff you dislike without really engaging with it because you don't know how to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 05:12 PM
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can you elaborate? There's nothing worth elaborating on if we just keep interpreting everything women say as favorably as possible and assume the worst of anyone disagreeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 05:07 PM
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No, it looked like lowest common denominator slop.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 04:57 PM
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There's a spectrum of expectation but you chose to boil it down to a binary.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 04:43 PM
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I heard he also used to breathe oxygen which I also do on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 04:35 PM
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is so deeply traumatic for them. If being downvoted is so deeply traumatic to them, those women could just not answer the question? Stop exaggerating people's emotional reactions just to make them easier to dismiss.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 02:33 AM
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It's so feminine to unironically imply confident men are the ones putting up with high maintenance women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:25 PM
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"Why do the poors not like it when I flaunt my wealth in front of them?"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:05 PM
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It only had 330 million That's true. As we all know the science says 330 million or 1.4 billion is not represenative but 400 million is. The argument was obviously all about the exact numbers, not about something silly like self-selection bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:38 PM
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Wait I'm confused? Are you saying that obviously if a woman got tricked into sex that way people would obviously consider it rape or are you just pretending women are oppressed in a way they clearly aren't because you can't acknowledge men sometimes have it worse in some situations?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:14 PM
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"America has almost 400 million citizens therefore all humans speak English and like guns"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:10 PM
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Women are basically trying to figure out if someone has the "vibes" of a liar while men are trying to figure out if someone actually lied. If you're going off of vibes, you're going to have a LOT of false positives* and if someone manages to trick your "vibe detector" once, it's always going to be the same game so they will be able to keep doing it indefinitely. If you're actually treating each individual lie as it's own puzzle, It's going to be much harder to lie to you long term and there's go…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 03:18 PM
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C) Society already functionally teaches men how to treat women and if it doesn't women teach men how to treat women because they are the ones with leverage in most relationships. Chads might be an exception to both of those rules so maybe we could teach chads how to treat women. Women on the other hand don't naturally get taught those things by society and average men don't have the leverage over them to naturally teach them trough their decisions.. so actually forcing women to sit down and thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:16 PM
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it's not a competition Pretty much all problems are in a competition with eachother because most problems have solutions that converge on the same kind of resources to be solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:32 AM
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However, does this ever actually work? Yeah? I'd say one of the most successful movement ever(feminism) is deeply rooted in negging and only worked because it successfully lowered men's standards/expectations for women's behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 11:24 PM
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Do you see the feeling as the problem or do you actually think you're unsafe?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:42 PM
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"No No...it's the bad men I don't like that will leave me alone and all the good attractive men I like will somehow like my awesome personality even more because I'm awesome and not a narcissist." -the women who would have a really bad time if this actually happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:45 PM
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Once the AI hype dies down? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:42 PM
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Do you realize most women fucking hate being in a relationship with a man who’s only with them for sex and not as a true partner? Yeah, I think women hate the idea of it, but in practice when the guy does a good job lying about it they love it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:41 PM
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The millenials deep understanding of social interactions must be why their writing has consistently been the worst and least influential.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:39 PM
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It's gendered because I'm talking about less than 20% of the male population and more than 80% of the female population?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 02:08 AM
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Why in the fuck did you choose to replace "disproportionally" with "all"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 01:49 AM
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Again, objectively an individual is responsible for their personal well being. How is that objectively true?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:43 PM
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Because cakeism is disproportionally more common in women and Chads?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:19 PM
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Open relationships are trendy and appeal to people wanting their cake and eating it to. How is it not gendered then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 10:40 PM
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At the same time : Athletes tend to be borderline retarded in their decision making because their whole life is built around what is a fundamentally stupid decision that happened to work out for them. So they keep making that mistake over and over again and generally are unable to understand the world outside of their sport.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:50 AM
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Did I say something that contradicted that? I had an issue with the man praising her for her choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 04:05 PM
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No I don't? I'd preffer if women were less attracted to muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 04:02 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 03:56 PM
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Is this your first time hearing about a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 03:47 PM
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Unless she's extremely incompetent(which wouldn't suprise me) or deeply mentally ill(which also wouldn't suprise me) why would she need that money at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 03:42 PM
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Because common sense should tell us that she wants a man she finds physically attractive. Common sense also tells us that she wants a man she finds attractive personality-wise. Yet you don't have a problem with her describing the personality she finds attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 03:32 PM
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and share more similarities in likes and dislikes than women. I think men have more varied tastes than women. I think women having higher standards creates the illusion that they have more varied standards because they disagree with eachother more...but there's a lot more ways to get 60% on a test than there is to get 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 12:25 PM
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and this suggests the opposite. What? How does this suggest the opposite? He literally said "Men in general are more critical of other men than women of other women"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 12:13 PM
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For example they do not acknowledge any fault of men You're starting with the assumption that women aren't more to blame than men so if someone thinks women are more at fault it must be because they are biased...which is ironically an actual example of in-group bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 12:10 PM
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Are you really trying to turn this into a semantics argument? I guess I'll play along, because that's more fun to me than the actual thing I'm arguing about. The just world fallacy is about actions. Doing good things (in this context being assertive, not overly investing into others) will result in good outcomes and doing bad things ( being "in love" with a girl he barely knew and not having the balls to say so) will result in bad outcomes. Unfairness that's inherent to people (like say short pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:38 AM
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I mean I agree it doesn't work on literally all women but comparing the overwhelming majority of women to a massive bullet doesn't make the dating landscape very appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:00 AM
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I agree, if you see women as your equal you are overinvesting in them and you need to tone it down for a chance. This isn't being a jerk because reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 09:56 AM
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Why would you think that was the part they got accused of a just world fallacy for????
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 09:53 AM
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None of these traits make you a jerk though. Not being invested in others is basically the underlying principle behind almost all bad actions. It very much makes you a jerk. Something else that helps a lot about being a jerk is reframing bad actions as actually being good.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 09:50 AM
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They’re grown ass adults now People don't magically start forming at 18 years old. How can they possibly look at everything going on around them and not get a clue Because they grew up in an environment where people who got a clue got shit on for it because it disagreed with what the previous generations wanted to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 09:07 AM
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In my view, gender is a bigger difference than sexuality in most but not all contexts. The conclusions you can or can't draw from and about those things depend on the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 05:43 AM
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Straight dudes won’t be able to handle that. I think straight dudes are very much able to handle that, but an open relationship is only as strong as it's weakest link.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 05:20 AM
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In the context of an education system that's criticized for being biased in favor of women, taking men that are slightly more feminine than average and pointing out they are doing better than average men is not exactly countering the idea that the system is biased in favor of women. (also gay men have a higher average IQ but that's a different conversation) In the context of relationships where female tendencies are being criticized, gay men are still way more masculine than an average woman. ed…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 05:13 AM
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How exactly is that dangerous? Well, if you commit too quickly to things, that means you are making emotional decisions and poorly communicating which leads you to repeated disaster over and over again instead of stable relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 04:51 AM
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"You can only have an opinion if you're attractive enough" is a fucking wild statement to make while on a sub that banned the blackpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 07:49 AM
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What’s not subjective is hate speech and misogyny How are those things not subjective lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 07:38 AM
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You: “You must tolerate my intolerance! 🤪” What I actually said: "Considering who other people are is an important part of being actually considerate and not just cosplaying the virtue." What a fair interpretation on your part. I’m sure your logic feels clever to insolent edgelords who lack empathy but to most people Damn, you just comboed poisoning the well with an appeal to popularity. That's irrelevent to your point but I just wanted to point it out lol. it’s petulant to expect consideration …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:12 PM
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As if we can’t tell when men are just saying whatever they think we want to hear in order to try and get in our pants. Yes, women think it's easy to spot because they keep catching the guys who are really bad at it...but they don't realize just how uncommon it is for a man's opinion on women to stay the same when there's no women in the room. if I had to put a number on it I'd say it's something between 90 and 95% of men who essentially tell women what they want to hear. The extent of it varies …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:49 PM
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I don't see the goalpost moving, I see a pretty vague statement because the discussion was just getting started followed by a more precise one and you acting like the fact he didn't write a 20 page paragraph explaining all the technialities right off the bat is totally the same as establishing clear rules and then bailing on them once they are proven wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:12 PM
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I think women assume that men seeing them as people basically means more positive judgments and less "misogyny". I think it's the complete opposite...a lot of the men who view women as sex objects basically just say whatever they think women want to hear and women think men viewing them as people would mean more men like the ones that managed to fool them instead of the reality where it's more men like the ones they call misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 07:35 PM
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I think men give a lot more weight to what is consistent across perspectives than women. Which is why you get the joke about every woman saying height doesn't matter having a 6'3 boyfriend. Basically men focus on what is consistent across perspectives(the actual dating decisions of the woman) while the woman is focused on what feels true to her "height doesn't matter".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:45 PM
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Sounds like you misread the situation. So?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:44 PM
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Do men even like women? A lot of women who keep complaining about not being judged as people would be in for a rough awakening if men actually did that. I think that's what you're asking because "Men like sex" is pretty unintersting as an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:23 PM
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How do you recover? Based on this story, I immediately end the relationship because I don't think it's legal to be in a relationship with someone that stupid and even if it wasn't I would feel like it's immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:14 PM
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Isn't that an interesting jump? No it's not? Why do you think it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:06 PM
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OMG YOU AND THIS FUCKING PHRASE GIVE IT A BREAK No, I think it's interesting that that phrase upsets you so much when it's a perfectly reasonable statement imo, and you haven't given a serious reason for it yet. he made it clear he doesn’t care about birthdays. In other words: he signalled he had a virtue he didn't actually have. It’s not about “birthdays.” I know, my last 2 paragraphs were about how it's actually about the person. It’s about MUTUAL CONSIERATION. I know, my last 2 paragraph were…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:08 PM
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Inconsiderate people who claim they “don’t care about people being considerate to them” are 99% of the time LYING. Also you : "It’s always males shrilly lamenting about “virtue-signaling."" Anyways, I don't care if you(general) don't care about birthdays and by extension don't care about mine. But if you establish that you care about birthdays it becomes a different story. Considering who other people are is an important part of being actually considerate and not just cosplaying the virtue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:38 PM
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You seem to think that taking accountability means always agreeing with you on who is to blame in any given situation. A lot of men are cosplaying taking accountability by just acting like everything bad that happens to them is their fault in the hopes people like you will see them as "one of the good ones" instead of the useful idiots they are. In practice, the men disagreeing with you are the closest to the ideal you claim to want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:28 AM
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Complaining was constantly selected for by evolution for a reason besides emotional catharsis.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:01 AM
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Men have to choose between a rock(dating shitty women) and a hard place(not dating at all). Your opinion basically boils down to "If you don't pick the hard place you don't get to complain about the rock.". The only reason anyone accepts opinions like yours is because they just blindly accept the premise of looking at the problem in a vacuum when it's not a problem that exists in a vacuum.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 07:59 AM
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Have you ever heard a man say that women don't pay taxes? Because I've seen women on here acting like it's just a common thing men say.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:23 PM
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Wow, were really arguing on different levels huh. I expected her to have a career relevant to her point because why the fuck would you link a video of someone that basically just makes an appeal to authority if they don't even have have any (perceived) authority on the subject? I expected to be arguing about the validity of her perceived authority not wether her career is actually more impressive than being a whore would be. I wish I could have expected you to actually engage with the main point…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:38 PM
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Damn that "argument" about them being wrong because they look unhappy would have hit so much harder if she could have managed to look happy while saying it. I'm not interested in her onlyfans or whatever she's promoting but that part was really funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:00 PM
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Ewwww dipshit male-obsessed buzzwords What? Do you legitimately not know what virtue signalling is so you're assuming it's redpill lingo and shitting on it? That's hilarious. He inadvertently validated an imbalance women have highlighted forever. Not inadvertently...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:16 AM
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Why would they imply women need more help? "A less unreasonable metric would be how much they contribute vs how much they cost and it turns out women are net negative tax contributors."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:13 AM
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No it's not? What they implied was that women do not provide everything that women need so they need help from men. This is very much on the level of interpreting "I like pancakes" as "I hate waffles".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:48 AM
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Just had to make that clear for all the men here that try to claim otherwise I've never heard a man say women don't pay taxes...are you okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:30 AM
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Whether they pay more than 0$ in taxes is a ridiculous metric for this wtf? A less unreasonable metric would be how much they contribute vs how much they cost and it turns out women are net negative tax contributors. Using taxes as a proxy for how much you contribute to society is very biased in favor of women in the first place but one thing at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:12 AM
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men are extorted out of our money It's about resources, not the money itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:12 AM
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Was his goal to prove women right? how does arguing that women are virtue signalling when they claim to want equality/fairness/etc... prove women right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:04 AM
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Are you gloating about the fact the mods won't ban you because you're a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:00 AM
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Why would it be hyperbole? Women are very intolerant of men sharing their honest experience of life because it deeply challenges a lot of the beliefs they have. Keep in mind, the same women who will yell at you over stuff like that will be the first to proclaim they definitely would never do something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:54 AM
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The probability of getting wet when you stand in the rain is basically 100%. the probability of getting assaulted when you hang out with Timmy the loser physicist is basiaclly zero percent. The probability of getting assaulted when you hang out with Chad the violent criminal is higher than zero. All your decisions are on a spectrum and can be judged based on if they increase your odds of bad outcomes or not. The idea that your decisions shouldn't be judged because someone else made a worse decis…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:39 AM
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Why do men who believe in hypergamy generally ask many multiples of women to pick better rather than ask alpha men to be happy with just one partner? It's not necessarily easier to control a smaller percentage of the population. If 20% of the population is heavily incentivized/really wants to do something, getting them to not do it is going to be a lot harder than getting 80% of the population to stop doing something they aren't as strongly incentivized to do and don't care about doing as much. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:41 PM
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Ugly men compensate when compensating is enough to bridge the gap between ugly and worth giving a chance to. If it's not, be ready to be treated fairly and equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:05 AM
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Because they like it when men die for them. It's a level of Ego and lack of empathy men don't really have so it just looks weird to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:00 AM
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Height is relative, there's not a (real) cutoff where women go "enough is enough" which is why the average man is significantly taller today than 200 years ago but women care MORE not less about height nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 02:29 AM
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it almost feels like some men are trying to convince themselves that it won’t work or isn’t worth the effort. Instead of testing the advice in the real world and adjusting from experience, they default to explaining why it’s pointless, unfair, or doomed from the start. Yes, that is in large part what brains have evolved to do. When something is costly, your brain wants to avoid doing it until they can be confident that at the very least the expected outcome is greater than the expected cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 02:20 AM
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Men voted for what they thought would be positive-sum for the last century and things got worse for them instead of better because women have not done the same and instead took advantage of men's "weakness". Women talked a lot about things like equality but when it came time for them to make concessions in the name of equality suddenly their claimed principles didn't apply and the goalpost shifted. Your post relies on the assumption that the influence of women's political beliefs is neutral or b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:49 AM
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I don't know, currently there's no real legal consequences for a woman lying about who the father of her child is so I reckon the justice system fundamentally doesn't believe fraud is a bad thing in the context of sex/relationships. That's completely fucking insane to me and I'd literally throw the people who came up with that in prison for the rest fo their lives, but If that's the logic they're going with then they can't just decide fraud is bad because the genders are flipped.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 06:45 AM
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I think a common progression is something like : 12: Nothing bad that happens to me is really my fault 15: Sometimes things are my fault 16: Everything is my fault I'm soooo stoic 18: Oh right, not everything is my fault. And then it basically stays there. Lots of people stuck in the 16 yo range telling people in the 18 yo range that they don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 06:24 AM
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When men stop centering women as the main source of validation, purpose, and emotional stability, it benefits everyone. I think what you functionally mean by men decentering women is "Men should continue to do the million things they do for women that I take for granted, but without ever bothering women". If men were to actually decenter women, their behavior would change a lot more than you think. In the short to medium term(aka decades)Men decentering women would look more like blackpilled inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 05:53 PM
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there's 500000 more important issues in his country.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 05:18 PM
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You can't just ban the blue pill and half of the redpill and expect to have a functional sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:08 PM
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They are refraining from committing a crime It wouldn't be a crime if men didn't call it a crime. it is the default condition You think the default condition in nature is to be safe? I think this basically explains why what I'm saying makes zero sense to you. If mate selection were the dominant driver of violence I understand why you interpreted what I said that way, but that's not what I meant. The men's side of the equation is overall a bigger part of the pie because it has more leverage over …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:10 AM
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Not the whole package, there's no room for misogyny in the balls because that's where pee is stored.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:02 AM
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Recognizing when your response is motivated by something like empathy or peer pressure is a higher level of emotional intelligence than being blind to those biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 10:31 PM
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Being a gatekeeper is always something that can be weaponized(on purpose or accidentally) unless the thing you're gatekeeping is unimportant. Like when men gatekeep safety behind not raping women, that has a much larger indirect impact on women's safety than it does the direct impact on the safety of rapists. When women gatekeep reproduction behind capacity for violence, that has a much bigger impact on violence than any reasonable(not eugenics or big brother) law men could make by gatekeeping s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 10:28 PM
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You can tell someone is just trying to pander to women when the only thing they mention for desirabilty is emotional intelligence. Someone with actual emotional intelligence would understand that but his(?) understanding of emotional intelligence seems to be "Does this person say things that make women feel good?".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 09:14 PM
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I feel like in general women think "Women are the gatekeepers of sex" is strictly a privilege while men understand that them being the gatekeepers of violence/safety is both a privilege and a responsibility. before someone says something dumb: I'm not saying anyone literally has these exact thoughts, I mean that a woman would be offended by the idea that her choices in dating should be scrutinized even a litle bit while most men would accept some scrutiny for how they choose to use violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 08:41 PM
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Girls and women are treating the asymmetry why do we care about an asymetry if the absolute numbers don't justify the behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 05:12 AM
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I think anyone that knows anything about him knows that? I don't even remember if he's actually gay or just gay looking, but I know he's a virgin by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 03:29 AM
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They never meant to put that much logic into it. Well, they should have. You don't get to say something like that and then act like men are the assholes for not interpreting it 50 times more favorably than women would interpret a similar statement about them from men. Women have established a very fucking clear pattern about this kind of stuff so they don't get to play dumb they have to sit in it. It’s just a symbolic statement. So are most insults. My point was that the symbol was meant to say …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 03:10 AM
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nice is not what I want my politicians to be described as. I want them to be good people, not to be described as nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 01:21 AM
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It merely implies violent men exist Violent bears also exist so that's not the reason for the decision. It implies the average man is more dangerous than the average bear. That is what it implies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 01:02 AM
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yeah, it's similar to when men make jokes about broken dishwashers. They don't literally mean all women are objects meant to clean and cook for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 01:02 AM
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communication is a 2-way street. The limiting factor could be either side. I still think it's obvious feminists are the limiting factor, but it's not inherently wrong to believe it's not your fault that your message was not properly received.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 12:54 AM
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Is it really misogynistic/misandrist to say that someone of either sex who knows that their SO is a terrible person and sees nothing wrong with it is a terrible person themselves? I don't know. I feel like saying the majority of women are bad people can be argued to not be misogyny because it's not sexism but at the same time it is hatred or at least dislike of women as a group.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 11:53 PM
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as it's becoming personal. bringing up a personal anecdote as an argument and then complaining that other people are making things personal because they disagree that your experience is relevant to the topic is definitely a choice. I can see how something like that might work in a real life setting if you're very good at gaslighting...but this conversation is written down so that's not going to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:16 PM
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It feels like being told that our risk perception is irrational when the data and lived experience suggest otherwise. The data and lived experiences suggest precisely what the men are saying: Women and men both have a low chance of being victims of violence unless they make pretty bad choices, but women have a lower tolerance towards risk and instead of acknowledging that they act like they are in more danger than they really are which ironically prevents them from improving their quality of lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 06:58 AM
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"life isn't fair, and that's okay, grit your teeth and work to get on the good side" Statements like "Life isn't fair and that's okay" make me question the sustainability of democracy. There's something so fucking pathetic and not human about completely giving up fixing the big picture problem and focusing on surviving it as an indidividual. It's disgusting, it's selfish, it's shortsighted, it's arguably evil. It's so fucking obvious that that behavior is a huge part of why everything keeps gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:25 AM
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What, 0.1% of the population is your dating market? I mean, you're not just competing for a smaller amount of people, you're also competing with a smaller amount of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:29 PM
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Also variations of "nuh huh" aren't contentless rhetoric as long as it alligns with the opinions of the mods.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:20 PM
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When men and women have the same problem to the same magnitude it's almost always men who complain about it less. I think that makes it pretty clear what you think is overly dramatic playing the victim is actually just men being victims of both whatever they are complaining about and the misandry of their complaints not being believed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:13 PM
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I think it's important to not take responsibility for things you aren't responsible for. That's not accountability, that's just a form of virtue signalling that fundamentally goes against the principle that's supposed to be behind taking responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:28 PM
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It's funny how ridiculously negative you are towards the people you're shitting on for being too negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:44 PM
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You basically completely ignored the point about survivor bias. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:37 PM
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What men need to do is what women do: exit the dating game until women clean up their fucking act. That's the desired end result but the actual way this happens is very different for men than it is for women. The problem is that as men leave, the ones who stay are more and more incentivized to stay. So the aproach shouldn't be a passive thing there should be a LOT of pressure put on the men who stay to make sure it's not worth it for them. Anything besides that and you're basically just telling …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 05:22 AM
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If someone claimed insanity and used that comment as evidence I would believe them and send them straight to the psych ward.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:14 PM
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I think average men reading about how some tall dude "vampired billionairly" would make things worse not better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:08 PM
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Ok, let's try a simple thought experiment. You want to make a road between point A and point B. If you flatten all the terrain to make a straight road it will cost 50 billion dollars to make your road. If you make the road 20% longer to avoid places that are naturally particularily uneven you can cut it down to 5 million dollars to make your road. Is choosing the 2nd option because it's cheaper a naturalistic fallacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:06 PM
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In this case there are no other reasons "It would cost too much to disrupt the natural state" seems like a reasonable reason to work around nature instead of fighting it. Not sure why you're acting like this isn't obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:44 PM
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The discussion around it reminds me of the discussion around Chess engines before chess engines completely overtook humans at the task. In a more general sense I see it as a distraction from p(doom)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:50 PM
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lack of socialization is when you disagree with me
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:46 PM
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Are you not disappointed in yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:59 PM
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I think this is a great idea. You bait mentally ill women into donating to something like that and then you have a list of crazy women to keep track of.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:39 PM
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not caring at all about anything beyond what you can immediately individually change is shortsighted. What tends to happen in real life is that you run into diminishing returns as you do more and more individually and eventually it becomes more impactful to move on to something bigger picture where you have less immediate individual control. Every fucking government in the history of humanity is the outcome of people understanding that, the idea that this is irrelevent to you as an individual is…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:32 PM
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Yep. When we faced horrible winters, we just made the world warmer. yes, we did build houses and fireplaces. And the dangerous animals? We made them friendlier. Nothing about sharp sticks. Yes, we used the sharp sticks to modify our environment. I think you get the point but one of the most effective thing when it comes to our health is actually just that we cleaned up our environment to reduce the amount of germs and viruses we were exposed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:11 PM
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There was not that tiny number of people protesting the war in russia in 2022, and they just went to jail. Do you even remember them? I don't think they're chaning that much in jail. An attempt at changing the world failed therefore all attempts at changing the world are bad decisions? Do you think there's not a billion examples of people trying to change themselves when they should have changed their environment instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:05 PM
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I'd argue one of the defining trait of humanity is our aproach to problem solving that's more reliant on changing the environment than ourselves. But I guess I'm not an alpha wolf so I wouldn't get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:03 PM
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A naturalistic fallacy is when you think something is good because it's natural, not when you think something natural is better than it's alternative for any other reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:01 PM
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Saying the redpill is about improving your own individual situation is like saying that learning mathematics is about improving your own individual situation. Wether you use the knowledge of math/the redpill for personal gain or to improve the world doesn't change what they are which is the understanding of something. It is not about changing the world. It's about the individual adaptation to the current circumstances. A reasonable person would ask themselves "Is it easier to change the environm…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:45 PM
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What do you think assertiveness is? In this context Assertiveness would look like telling women like yourself that were tired of performing assertiveness for you and won't anymore. Basically this is just another version of women going "I want a guy that actually tells me what he wants" and then when he does women go "no, not like that".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:46 PM
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The problem with the painting analogy is that knowing the wall was painted doesn't defeat the purpose of painting the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:57 PM
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Men complain that women want assertive men then make every excuse they can to be the opposite. Is there supposed to be a contradiction in that? Let me gender-flip it so that your female in-group bias kicks in and you notice what you actually said. "Women complain that men want submissive women then make every excuse they can to be the opposite." Yes you lack all leverage when you're a doormat In this context being a doormat would mean performing assertiveness for women because that's what women …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:17 PM
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The answer is the same as when women complain about having to do emotional labor for men they are in relationships with, stop doing it. Do you just not understand the concept of leverage???? Wtf??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:06 AM
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I think you did. It's very obvious he's talking about using the vagueness of words for the purpose of manipulation and instead of seeing that nuance you jumped straight to assuming he's a turbo autist that needs everything imaginable spelled out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:59 AM
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Women are superior at analytical thinking. That's not what your study says at all. Your study says that women are better at COMBINING analytical and intuitive thinking. aka Women's brains don't separate logic and emotions as much as men's, aka women are more emotional than men. "female brains may be optimized for combining analytical and intuitive thinking."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:38 AM
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Nobody in their right mind navigates socially, especially in dating, needing textbook dictionary definitions for every word in order to understand what the woman in front of them is saying. You misread what he meant if that's how you interpreted it. I guess it's not that easy to read people huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:16 PM
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I find people who discuss terms like sexual assault in a vague way to be far creepier.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:00 PM
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"What other people do doesn't affect me" People with a basic grasp of how the world works: Yes it does. You: THIS PROVES HER POINT!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:11 PM
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I don’t know you can see people like bad bunny going from doing groceries to being a global superstar and not be a inspired on some level. Because I've seen enough people going from genuinely competent in a way that would advance their field to doing groceries.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:01 PM
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I think it's disgusting that some men are so misogynistic they refuse to be 6'3 male models that give women their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 01:50 AM
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I think I'd bet on him being alive but leaving him alive would be a big liability for the people involved so there's also a pretty good chance they killed him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:19 PM
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there's a difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:11 PM
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Can you give an example of a toxic trait that's meaningfully widespread in women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:10 PM
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You don’t even specify what is supposedly so toxic about these women The logic is the same regardless of if he gives a specific example. So asking for a more specific example sounds like an attempt to nitpick the point instead of meaningfully addressing it. Unless you're extremely sexist, women as a group obviously have at least 1 toxic trait. Maybe you disagree on the one he would use as an example so leaving it vague allows you to use your own belief right away instead of going trough a weird …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:48 PM
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it's never that they hyperfocus on low quality women. it's possible that when men complain about women in general they are actually complaining about women in general and you interpret it as an hyperspecific complaint because you refuse the possibility of a widespread issue within women. It's also possible that women have a tendency to hyperfocus on the MUCH SMALLER subset of men they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:07 PM
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What part of PPD males have said his exact sentiments on this sub do you not understand? Understand? None of it. It's a very simple and straightforward idea that's pretty close to how I viewed the world at 14. Maybe I'm blind to some kind of nuance but I think it's more likely you're just doing the same thing you usually do where you assume that anyone who disagrees with you didn't understand you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:34 PM
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Yes yes, poisoned M&Ms and such. Great precedent to set.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:33 PM
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"If it's not all men then xyz which is untrue" is a proof by contradiction of "It's all men".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:12 PM
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Nothing he said is a lie. I've talked to men that behave like this publicly when women are present in real life. I'm sure eventually I'll meet one that actually believes shit like this but I haven't yet. he's obviously going for a "you're so right that men are bad but I'm one of the good ones who is self-aware about it!" angle and I guess it's working on some women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:07 PM
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Jesus, that man just telling that woman whatever she wants to hear instead of being honest is pathetic. Anyways, the core reason men are offended when women say they are okay being single is because it's a lie. Women are okay with a version of being single that most men would consider better than the average relationship...but I've never met a woman that was actually okay being single in the way an average man is single.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 02:41 PM
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I think I remember in a math class the teacher started to explain proof by contradiction like it was a wild concept people would be encountering for the first time. Reddit made me understand why they presented it that way lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:17 PM
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So you can’t even explain how I am wrong? I already did, you completely missed the point and accused me of not reading what you had said while clearly not understanding what my criticism was about. I can't make you understand something you don't want to or can't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:46 PM
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The Implicit Belief is “I dont commit crimes, why dont I have pussy?” Thank you for proving my point. We are done.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:33 PM
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"You don't deserve this" is basically emotional abuse lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:45 PM
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This should be a post about the woman being an insane piece of shit. Focusing on men not capitalizing on her lack of values instead is an extreme level of misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:43 PM
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Where did I say any of that? You said : "they must mean they’d be willing to have casual sex with any guy who isn’t a felon." I paraphrased it a little with "women will sleep with anyone who's not a felon". I addressed that. No you didn't? Your sub-topic is about the idea that believing women in general have a flaw is easier to believe for a man than believing he is flawed. Which is a weak argument that has nothing to do with addressing how black and white your statement was.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:19 PM
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Implicit belief: When women say they want nice guys / good men, they must mean they’d be willing to have casual sex with any guy who isn’t a felon. Stop with the black and white thinking. It's not "either women only want felons" or "women will sleep with anyone who's not a felon". The actual implicit (and often explicit) belief is more along the lines of "Men who aren't felon should on average do better than men who are". Honestly your post is pretty much full of black and white thinking and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:50 PM
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It's really difficult to overreact to what is essentially an existential threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 07:43 PM
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Yes. That wasn’t my issue. You: I believe x Me: I believe x implies y You: No, I said x not y
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:12 PM
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Having to control something is a big deal on it's own.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 04:37 PM
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Except by overreacting you play right into the hands of companies and capital owners. Not really? If you're actually "overreacting" To AI what you would do is outlaw AI research immediately under threat of death on an individual level and getting wiped off the map by every other country on the national level. I'm not sure how that benefits companies and capital owners.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 04:12 PM
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AI is a tool, it cannot ever replace people's jobs. AI is a tool that has the potential of doing everything the human brains does but better. If you don't understand how that could end up replacing a lot of what humans do I think you fundamentally don't understand what AI is on a conceptual level.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 04:11 PM
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You should engage with the principle of an argument instead of trying to gotcha with a technicality...but if you try it you could try a little harder. Anyways, obviously companies are banning people based on what they think those people are doing, the filters are just one metric the apps can use but it's not limited to that. Here's your own comment agreeing with me implicitely: The dating apps ban young women if they think they’re looking for sugar daddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:58 PM
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Why are you encouraging sexual abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:53 PM
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If the guys are looking for prostitutes they should be banned too, but if you want to ban people for trying to date outside of their league you will have to ban basically every average woman trying to date Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:50 PM
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You know you can prove a negative right? So proving bluepill doesn't require proving whatever positive claims they make, it simply requires that their claims the redpill is wrong are proven. A basic example for redpill vs bluepill would be evolutionary psychology vs blank slate. Bluepillers don't have to prove blank slate, they only have to disprove evolution. So if a bluepiller believed in simulation theory they would still only have to disprove evolution not prove simulation theory. (Simulatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:52 AM
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Evolution took literally billions of years to only ONCE create a specie that's smarter than current AIs which were basically not a thing 20 years ago. I think because the progress is happening within our lifetime and it's basically just catching up to human intelligence it feels slow and pointless...but fundamentally AI can improve themselves or rewrite their own code...so altough getting there can feel slow and pointless it can pretty quickly get into a feedback loop of recursive improvement. D…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 07:53 AM
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Wow, there's so much content in your rhetoric! If you're going to ignore 80% of something and focus focus on what I'd consider the least important bit at least say more than "nuh huh" about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:16 PM
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imagine being attracted to the gender responsible ot 99.99% of crime it's brutal Imagine being attracted to a group where like 98% of the people in it aren't violent criminals and thinking it's their fault that you consistently find yourself attracted to the worst of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:12 PM
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all of this to be used in moderation. Sometimes moderation just means not doing it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:08 PM
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1:The men that women are the most willing to hang around are actually more dangerous than the men women avoid for "safety" reasons. So it's pretty obvious that most of this is a rationalization at best. 2:A police officer is far more likely to kill or seriously hurt someone than the average person. This is obviously true but it's also true that a society with no police is more not less dangerous to be in. You're focusing on who pulls the trigger instead of who created the incentives for pulling …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:59 PM
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It is first and foremost foundational to believe that improvement is possible, otherwise the incentive to try isn't there. I think that tells you everything about the way this person thinks or I guess doesn't think. It's basically an edgy bluepiller.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:02 AM
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In general women fucking hate it when you treat them like humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 12:41 PM
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Ok, how much experience do you have struggling with finding a partner as a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:55 PM
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What aspect of dating and attraction do guys incorrectly put too much emphasis on when in reality women don't really care about? anything that someone couldn't see/understand about you within 2 seconds of seeing a picture of you. Also why do you think this disconnect exists Because of survivor bias. Basically women will filter out hundreds of men in 2 seconds and then they will spend a lot more time and energy on the men that made it through the initial filter which inflates how important that p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:53 PM
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It's crazy that people who talk about punching nazis are unironically the closest thing to modern nazis nowadays. The lack of self-awareness to delude yourself into thinking a democrat from 30 years ago is Hitler is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:20 AM
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I can criticize you without trying to solve your issue. And the more you do that, the more likely you are to start getting treated the same way back.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:08 AM
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Game theory literally came to the conclusion that the winning move in these kind of situations is essentially "an eye for an eye". So no, it's pretty much objectively the kind of attitude winners have.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:04 AM
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Did she actually HAVE TO? or was she just the first to think it should be done and was so solipsistic she didn't register the possibility her opinion wasn't automatically everyone elses opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:00 AM
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It's not the specifics of the situation that are creating the problem in 90% of cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:54 AM
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they don’t turn on society and become fascist supporters? Women are pretty famous for being the biggest suporters of actual fascist regimes once they start.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:53 AM
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Anyhow, that comes back to the issue of really not being able to accept that women are autonomous beings who get to make their own choices. Can you give an example of general criticism of women's choices that you wouldn't interpret as men being unable to accept that women are people too?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:57 AM
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"idk how to argue so I'll just call them gay".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:00 AM
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Do you understand the difference between easy and easier?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:50 AM
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If that was the case incels and Chads wouldn't both hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:26 AM
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Men who didn't care got evolutionarily cucked. If women didn't do that they could be the biggest sluts they wanted and men would have never evolved to hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:09 AM
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Getting rich was easier than growing 5 inches taller than your genetics allow because one is impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:07 AM
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The point is that he thinks those are attractive attributes. He seems to think those should be attractive attributes, I don't know if he thinks they are and more importantly: I don't know if you understand the difference lame and boring I don't think kind and good is lame and boring. Hell, just the novelty makes them more interesting than the dime a dozen "and then the craziest thing happened" NPC.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:39 PM
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Wanting to do good things and have good things happen to you is not a fantasy that needs a whole lot of context. Wanting to get raped by a barbarian warlord does.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:28 PM
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The fact that that's not the kind of personality women find attractive is the whole point so your argument makes no sense unless you agree with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:07 PM
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If both sides are playing to win men win trough patriarchy. Women's strategy is a losing strategy that works because their teammate is trying to teach them how to play instead of crushing them at the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 05:39 AM
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Because false claims of sexual assault or rape make up such a tiny percentage of the overall cases. Claims proven true and claims proven false make up a similar percentage of the overall cases, stop assuming that claims that haven't been proven are true instead of unknown. It’s both men AND women doing this. there will always be bad actors on both sides but I think this is more of a problem with women than with men. Men are pretty consistently the bigger advocate for not blindly taking accusatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 05:33 AM
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I'd say the justice system and society are both on the same side away from the middle ground between too harsh on alleged victims and too harsh on alleged perpetrators.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 05:33 AM
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The ok cupid is clear So is my argument that you ignored. Anyways, I care about the data, not what the guy who published it feels about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:24 PM
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Site-wide, two-thirds of male messages go to the best-looking third of women. So basically, guys are fighting each other 2-for-1 for the absolute best-rated females, while plenty of potentially charming, even cute, girls go unwritten. This is an incredibly bad faith interpretation, that I would expect from someone trying to defend dating apps not someone actually trying to understand data/behavior. If I say yes to 200 girls but 2/3 of that is directed at women in the top third I'm not just as pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:46 PM
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sex-bots are just not as efficient as some kind of virtual reality thing. So it will be over for women before the actual sex bots come around(if they ever come around, the future prorably continuously trends towards more and more thing being virtual)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:28 AM
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If women only entertain the guys who put in an unsustainable effort, they are incentivizing that behavior way too much to expect anything else to happen and that's very much on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:13 PM
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Sometimes I get scared of the possibility of getting a top 1% commenter thing...I probably subconsciously try to avoid that but trying to avoid that is also a form of caring about it which isn't any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:48 AM
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They’re basically being forced to either appeal to men or die and that’s not really a choice. Correct, how men behave is not women's choice.. A lot of women take men's current behavior for granted, but it's ultimately men's choice not women's. The premise is women making a choice that puts their immediate interest first and puts men in a tough position as a consequence...That establishes a precedent that makes it very difficult to argue that men should care if their choices put women in a tough …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:41 AM
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I apreciate that you recognized responding with "sure bud, keep telling yourself that inflated self-image is the reason you're a failure with women". was not a good look.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:08 AM
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Well this has happened a few times troughout history. There's 3 paths and all of them start with the same thing: Men stop doing their part for the well-being of society because maintaining society doesn't really matter if they won't have kids and the women aren't worth protecting anymore. Then the 3 paths are: 1. Women's quality of life gets bad enough without the help of men that they start giving up on their claimed principles. Their society collapses and everyone dies. Another group of more v…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:57 AM
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Dude, you can't use a survey for something like that. You need to look at actual behavior not surveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:28 AM
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You're so right bud, complaining about women didn't exist until the redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:45 AM
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I'd pick the woman and go full Rorschach on her. A woman sharing her emotions as if they were facts for 12 hours sounds like hell...but in my experience feminism is one of those ideologies that relies heavily on dodging the point and you can only do that for so long. But seriously I'm not that selfless, I would probably pick the man and just have an interesting conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:42 AM
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the women who throw these insults around are women that are ruled by their emotions and those women won't be convinced by arguments. The women who have the capacity to understand these arguments already understand them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:10 AM
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It's the spots on a plane you should reinforce because the planes that came back were all shot in those spots.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:28 AM
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Ok, so deradicalizing women would accomplish that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:05 PM
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had she been in her right mind, Who is to say what's the "right" mind? Is it when a woman believes all the feminist bullshit and is super hostile towards every man imaginable? Because I don't think it's clear de-radicalizing women is wrong even if you're doing it for selfish reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:55 PM
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That sounds more like a description of some kind of liberal that can't accept the current result of the democratic process.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:53 PM
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It's wild that this post was aproved by the mods.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:49 PM
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An honest murderer is still a murderer. I think a lot of women just presupose that regardless of what the say the proper reaction is agreement or acceptance and when they don't get that they assume the other person is not reacting "properly". It's a very feminine way of thinking. Also, context matters a lot with these kind of things. If someone consistently makes direct statements about everything, their direct statements about you come across as just direct statements(i.e men communicate that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:02 PM
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I guess the fact that I was obviously talking about dating-related privilege was outside of your context window.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:52 PM
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As men do not have female sex organs they do not have to deal with common medical issues relating to it or birth control. Women have more women specific issues but men have 2 general debuffs that makes them more susceptible to most things. Being bigger in general has a cost in life expectancy and being more diverse also has a cost in life expectancy. Don't get me wrong, there are better metrics than life expectancy...but you're not using the better metrics eithers. Dating is more risky for women…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:48 PM
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AI would actually be a great tool as a dating app if the goal was just to find the best realistic relationship possible for as many people as possible. The problem is that most women would prefer a dating app that sells them false hope instead of the best realistic option possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:13 PM
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I don't know what it is. And no, this isn't some redpill thing where I think all women are insane. Yet
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:25 AM
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This must be breaking their brain. most conservatives are adults so their worldview isn't based on whatever the latest emotionally charged incident is and they can expect bad things to happen even within systems they support.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:12 AM
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Did you just try to flex the fact that you're a mod by calling me retarded knowing the rules don't apply to you? That's hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:46 PM
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There's a study on people's ability to detect dark triad personality traits. Women did way better than men when all the information given was a neutral picture(i.e a shallow judgment) but once they were given more information they stuck to their initial snap judgment while men didn't which resulted in men doing way better than women. You have to remember that men evolved doing a higher risk task than women that relied on actual cooperation, so they had to have a more accurate assessment of what …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:32 PM
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I do agree that in real life women tend to judge things with very shallow metrics like your ability to open food containers while men have a better understanding of what actually matters. In my experience, women make snap decisions and stick to those judgments to an unreasonable level while men are less bigoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:08 PM
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The redpill and blackpill are more popular with black men than white men, so I don't know why you think there's any kind of contradiction there. Obviously the idea that the redpill is concerned with the truth rather than who says it doesn't seem all that ironic to me, but I'm too lazy to deal with that pigeon on a chessboard argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:59 PM
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Describing every atom of a chair doesn't make you a clear communicator.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:22 PM
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We are trying to look at a pattern, not one specific statement you can pick apart to ignore the pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:08 PM
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The fact you ignored the social program argument is disapointing to me to put it politely. But I guess I'll respond regardless: No ICE is not a secret police sanctioned by the administration doing murders to get back at the left. If it was it would be doing a terrible job not even killing as many people as bees do. I think you are giving too much importance to the violence you see and not enough to the violence you don't see and it massively skews your perspective of what ICE is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:39 AM
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Maybe, just maybe,the reason for that is that people weren't fighting ICE as much back then?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:30 AM
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That's their entire MO of taking away social programs A lot of social programs are bad because they are designed to keep people dependent on them. The situation where someone loses more in welfare from accepting a raise at their job than they gain from the raise has such an obvious solution(give people gradually less welfare as they make more instead of having thresholds) that it's obvious the goal was never to help. It's a feature, not a bug, because they are legitimately okay with non-conserva…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:29 AM
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women in richer countries are essentially protected from the consequences of their bad decisions so they have sky high standards for superficial things that makes them feel good short term but barely pay attention to things that actually matter. Women in poorer countries have less of a safety net so they are more careful and make wiser choices. Having higher standards does not mean that you have wise standards or that you're making careful decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:30 AM
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Envy evolved to prevent critical failure. Without envy we would already be dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:22 AM
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The best measure of sexism is in-group bias. Female in-group bias is significantly bigger than the borderline non-existant male in-group bias. Misogyny feels like it's not acknowledged by men partly because misogyny does not exist to the extent women believe it does. If women could fix their misandry they would see that. Another big factor is that misogyny has decreased over the last century or two but misandry went the other direction. So it's pretty obvious women are using accusations of misog…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:19 AM
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Why can't women distinguish the two? Women have evolved in an environment where external threats were very rare so being accepted by the group is far more important for them than men. So it's not that women can't distinguish the two on an intellectual level, it's that they can't think rationally about things they perceive as controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:10 AM
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honestly, you should probably wait before trying to figure it out because it's super unclear what was going on and pretty much all opinions on it are just people defending their side.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:23 PM
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I used to agree but the data doesn't say that hypergamy was common, it says things were relatively stable for most of history and every now and then(usually when technologies like aggriculture massively shifted how society operated) hypergamy got out of control. So when you look at a stat like having twice as many female ancestors, you should think of it in the same way you would the average wealth of a random group of 100 people that happens to include Elon Musk. The reason hypergamy is not act…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 04:18 PM
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Or we could call it what is actually is : A lot of relevant data on the subject. That's the only part people who care about science as a principle instead of science as an aesthetic care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:40 PM
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It's like saying why do you feel hurt only after concussion when someone got their legs broken.We can argue who got it worse but who cares? why should we? Well, the last time I went to the emergency there was a billboard explaining who would get priority based in large part on the severity of their issue. So hospitals seem to care. Like an hospital, society has limited resources to help people and figuring out who actually needs help the most instead of who is whining the loudest helps us spend …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:18 AM
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I don't understand your logic. Your main argument is that the new girl making the same amount doesn't take anything away but then you say that if she made more than her it would be reasonable to be pissed. Are you implying it does take something away from her if the new girl makes more? What's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:53 AM
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Eating a lot of food doesn't make you an expert on starvation or nutrition.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:14 AM
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A black man has the power of punching a white guy in the face and that's going to hurt the white guy regardless of how privileged you think he is. You're talking about power in an unreasonably abstract way because if you kept things grounded in reality it's obvious you're looking for an excuse to have your cake and eat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:00 PM
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Nobody gives a fuck on an individual level if you lower your standards or not. But people absolutely give a fuck on a collective level if you lower your standards or not and that means they give a shit on the individual level just less so. Dating is a free market, So? Free markets aren't mutually exclusive with people wanting to get good deals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:09 PM
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Person a: If A then B Person b: If B then C and if C then not A Person a: I never said anything about C!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:57 PM
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It's not a general statement, it's about this specific situation. There are questions that are indirectly answered a million times a day if you just pay attention. "Why don't homeless people simply buy homes?" would be an example. So when you ask a question like that it just makes it clear that you have no interest in the answer because if you did you would have figured it out before asking the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:03 PM
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Why are so many men in this sub bothered by "princess treatment"? If you have to ask there's no point in answering lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:46 PM
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They are more egalitarian in theory, in practice women are more equal than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:28 PM
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Most of history from a feminist perspective looks something like : 10000 men died at some pointless battle, women and nobles(apex fallacy) that have never seen a battlefield most affected.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:27 PM
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I don't think it's just the raw number of options, another big part of the problem is that a lot of women are extreme narcisists so they pretty much immediately forget anything that isn't about themselves including the other people in "their" relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:01 PM
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I think the most realistic way I can imagine that happening is if we reproduced asexually. I think that essentially answers almost all your questions, as there would be no sexualities period so there would be no divorce rate, no casual dating, no disatisfaction with people's dating lives etc... I guess I don't know if most people would have children...I think so because usually asexual reproduction competes trough speed. I also think concepts like bluepill, redpill, blackpill etc are pretty fund…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:55 PM
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The only non-trivial reason someone would pay for onlyfans instead of just watching the essentially infinite amount of free porn is that they want something a little more personal. aka onlyfans is not a porn consumption issue, it's a loneliness issue. Personally I think that statement is not mean enough towards the bigger picture cause but that's just tone policing so it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:09 PM
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You have to actually identify that, not just "The women I want my dick in". My whole comment is about the idea that women will always frame the problem a man is having as being specific to him as an individual rather than a problem with the average woman. In other words I'm saying that even when men identify that they aren't talking about just the women they want to put their dick in, it won't register as such to women. Are you trying to prove my point? Also, men also claim only a small percenta…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:27 PM
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Well, if that's super sad how about you explain how I lost the argument so that I can improve? Like let's start with my point which was that judging intelligence requires listening to people. How did she dismantle that exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:26 PM
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He doesn't want to understand women in general because he wants to understand women in general??? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:25 PM
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I'd say if a woman spends a significant amount of time and effort to avoid other similar levels of risk as the ones posed by men they are perfectly justified in complaining about men online. However, I've never met a woman that actually did that...so yeah, it seems like a disproportionate response.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 08:40 AM
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Men are capable of relating to women who actually experience the things they claim to be experiencing. men can also relate to being unfairly or fairly treated differently for something they didn't do because women are blaming men in general for the actions of a subset of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 08:24 AM
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I dont know why you dont filter people based on intelligence, but I do understand not everyone sees competency as a priority. How can he filter people based on intelligence without listening to them first? Also the goal was to understand women in general, not find a group of women who fit the narative you want to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 08:17 AM
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I think women struggle deeply with the idea that it's possible there is a large scale problem within women. Like it's just not a possibility in their mind that women as a group could have a problem that goes beyond a few bad actors. You presupose that only a small percentage of the female population does bad things so when a man criticizes an extremely common behavior you look at the extreme version of that behavior and say "no, you're talking about the extreme end of the spectrum where bad indi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 08:10 AM
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So why not relate to the minority who identify as femcels instead of denying they exist of constantly challenging their lived experiences? Because the difference between a woman that actually is a femcel and a woman who just claims to be only becomes apparent once you "challenge their lived experiences". Combine that with the fact that the majority of women who claim to be femcels aren't and you get this outcome. The group to blame is not men, it's the women who falsely claim to be femcels. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 05:50 AM
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Were you trying to illustrate the reason I gave more than one example?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:02 AM
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Let's go over a basic example, women are far less discriminated against today than they were 100 years ago. Women complain more about discrimination than ever before. The same is true about height, wealth, intelligence, etc... Do you have an example of the opposite pattern where women got what they wanted or at least things went in the direction they wanted and instead of the standards creeping back up they were just satisfied or at least more satisfied?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:57 AM
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I can't think of a hobby I had or a hobby community I observed that improved as a result of more female participation. No one likes everything about anything, there's always a direction people push things towards and women generally push things in a direction men like less. So the idea that it's fine as long as women aren't changing anything is irrelevent to me because it's never going to happen in a meaningful way. there are also people who would be thrilled to have an opportunity to meet more …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:56 AM
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The biggest problem with the way women "vet" is that they are basically just looking to confirm their biases. More complex tests aren't going to remove their biases if the (biased) women are the ones designing the tests in the first place. In practice, to most women the difference between the positive and negative version of a trait(conficence vs arrogance, protective vs dangerous , charismatic vs manipulative, etc...)is not some specific nuance in the action, it's their general feelings about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:51 AM
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So he said a slur and you dont think thats a problem. Proving my point. Actually you're proving his point that women care more about how something looks than any kind of actual morality. Basically your argument is that you care more about if something looks racist than if it is racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:33 PM
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At some point high standards become counterproductive because they functionally select for whoever can lie the best instead of whoever actually meets the standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:37 PM
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It should be okay to find someone's past disgusting and just leave it at that. Why? I understand that the person doesn't want to be criticized but what is the benefit to other people for not criticizing them? You don't owe them a rejection-free life and they don't owe you a criticism-free life right? Anyways, What I deeply dislike about your logic is that none of it is a "real" argument, you're just kind of stating what you want to be true instead of making an argument to show that it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 04:03 PM
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I hope Amelia becomes the female equivalent of Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:08 AM
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Poor people today have access to a better quality of life than rich people did 1000 years ago. The economy getting better very clearly makes these social problems worse not better. People just use "the economy" as a scapegoat because tackling the root causes of these problems is uncomfortable and incompatible with a lot of modern luxury beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 04:33 AM
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Most complaints about modern dating in these forums are about there not being enough hot men or enough tall men or enough affluent men. Saying there's not enough is funny because if there was "enough" it would become worthless to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 04:13 AM
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I heard Trump cured cancer and I can't stop thinking about how awful that is for all the female doctors that will lose their jobs because of it. This is the "I'll make the economy better" president btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 03:09 AM
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Personally I always felt like ragebait should be taken at face value and most people who consistently ragebait should be treated as having a severe mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 03:03 AM
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Actions > words
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:57 PM
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If your idea of the redpill is all about what you should personally do, you're not a redpiller you're a pick up artist cosplaying as redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:48 PM
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You're presuposing that women definitely know what they want and that they definitely are telling men the truth about it. That's an assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:43 PM
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Except that obviously, if you scream at a woman and slap her drink out of her hand, she’s also NOT going to date you. Yeah, obviously what he meant by saying being kind, gentle and respectful doesn't matter that much was that you should scream at a woman and slap her drink out of her hand... That's obviously what he meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:42 PM
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I'd say men are on average significantly better at handling rejection than women and the kind of men who say they are great at handling rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:38 PM
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Surely it's not because acknowledging they were actually nice people challenges their worldview and solpsism is easier. Must be because Jupiter is in retrograde. But to give those people far more benefit of the doubt than they would give an average man: It's because women have a very superficial idea of what being nice means that essentially amounts to confirming their current emotions. So someone that does have a spine is not a nice person. That's why a lot of pseudo-redpill advice essentially …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:22 AM
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unless they’re seriously messed up mentally I would be fine walking on the sun unless you're talking about the actual sun and not a magazine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:11 AM
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This is a post about what women are doing not about what men should do about what women are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:54 AM
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If I wanted to be mad and miserable I would go to the "local hippy dippy holisitic center" instead of avoiding it. The fact that some men don't want to rake their balls across glass for the possibility of pussy is fine, men are under no obligation to simp for mentally ill women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:15 AM
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it's pretty much everyone that is successful primarily thanks to their intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:00 AM
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Maybe, it's women's turn to adapt to men for once this century? Men aren't interested in chasing a moving goalpost anymore and were tired of being called whiny and entitled by a gender that whines more than us over less than us and feels entitled to us doing anything they want for a crumb of validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:38 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:30 AM
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Yes, it's pretty obvious you judge everything on vibes and never question your gut feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:43 AM
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I think it says a lot about how you think that you can't fathom why someone would try to understand something they hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:45 AM
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Drone warfare is the consequence of idiots thinking nerds are irrelevent since they aren't gigachads and I don't think that attitude will change quickly enough to prevent how awful things are going to get in the next 50 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:31 AM
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Well if you want a real answer : Game theory. If you want a simpler answer : Abundance mentality is an individual trick that improves your personal chances, but the desire for individual success can be weaponized against the collective and there is more to gain for men from addressing the collective side of things than doing whatever they can to meet the standards of shitty women. That last bit is your own claimed value.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:31 PM
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Feminism has given me the same power, choices, opportunities and rights as a man No, feminism gave you more power, choices, opportunities and rights than the average man and men are getting tired of your supremacy movement so now it's their turn to fight for equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:26 PM
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Wanting people to not be garbage is different from wanting garbage people to be into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:15 PM
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so we have no one but ourselves to blame for getting MORE of it. Are you unironically trying to argue there's more misogyny today than say 100 years ago? Surely if we suffer in silence, men will be better people. Any day now. Men are better people today than they were in the past based on the things women claim to value. The fact you can't even see that men have improved significantly according to your own (claimed) principles is exactly why things are starting to reverse. It's very obvious that…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:43 PM
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What a lot of people miss about the redpill is that almost all redpillers were bluepilled at some point. Redpillers are more likely to regret being bluepilled for too long than regret being redpilled. Also, It annoys me how people like you talk about the repill "preying" on men that are struggling but it never ever occurs to you that the bluepill might be preying on men that are struggling just in a different way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:48 AM
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Cool. Aggregate stats don’t move you. They do, read what I said again.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:38 AM
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But studies show what I said. Studies will show anything when it comes to stuff this subjective. So what studies end up showing is just the subjective beliefs most common in academia rather than reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:48 PM
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I think more conservative-minded people than else are “ruthless” and “self-centered” (in a myopic “fuck you if you’re not one of us” way) Charlie Kirk was a great example of that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:44 PM
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Because most couples do not negotiate sex with an exchange of money. It feels like you genuinely do not understand the concept of indirect.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:54 PM
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Win at all costs “rules for thee, not for me” Feminism. Possessiveness “me me mine mine” “I own you” "His money is our money, my money is my money." Less open to the POV of others Female in-group bias. Moderation/censorship is primarily pushed by women. Me too, etc... I'm not going to do every point but I focused on the ones where your biases were the most obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:11 PM
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If you need to base your self esteem What if they just literally believe something because it makes logical sense to them instead of because it fits their emotional agenda?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:16 AM
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Til cars are weapons. They are a weapon in the same way that a lot of items that weren't built for the sake of being a weapon can become weapons in the right circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:59 AM
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Fear and disgust are very closely linked emotions...so most of the time when women are "scared" of men the actual emotion they are having is disgust not fear, they just frame it/interpret it as fear for their safety because you can justify a lot more things in the name of safety than you can disgust.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:27 AM
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Equality and freedom is what allowed women's sexism to become so glaringly obvious. The fact that women's reaction to less misogyny was more misandry says basically everything you need to know about gender relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:13 AM
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So she wasn't unarmed
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:12 AM
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unarmed Wasn't she driving a car?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:59 AM
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I guess when I do what you do you think I'm a pussy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:29 AM
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you don't have to announce that you don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:11 AM
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I think men's current sexism is a reaction to women's sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:05 AM
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Nobody cares if you're a depressed man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:46 PM
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like how else could I present "women helping men in a sexual context"? I mean you can explain why empathy evolved or in the same vein explain why game theory exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:31 PM
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Unlike a video game. Did you just unironically imply that videogames don't have randomness??? Have you ever played a videogame?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:48 AM
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Damn that woman sounds low IQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:09 AM
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Who said “never?” The logic of your statement, which clearly you didn't understand lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:40 AM
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Adults pay attention to large scale fraud involving someone that was almost vice president even if it doesn't happen in their exact state.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:38 AM
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Either The guy can never win the game(blackpill) or there is a way for the guy to win at which point you invalidated your own point about videogames being different because they were designed with the ability to be won. Why the fuck are you asking questions with obvious answers like that? What's the point in making me spell out the obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:06 AM
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During the start of playoffs?! Again, I'm usually willing to give you the benefit of the doubt but you have to at least try to have an opinion that an adult could have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:01 AM
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Video games all are designed with the ability to “win” or “beat the level” What happens in life when the girl says “no I don’t like you?” I thought blackpill content was against the rules of this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:36 PM
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I disagree, I think white knighting is incredibly normalized so it's easy to feel like there are no white knights if you have a relative definition of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:35 PM
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You're usually more subtle about your ragebaiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:34 PM
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Men are afraid women will laugh at them, women are afraid men will kill them The implicit assumption in that statement is that women are accurately and reasonably afraid that men will kill them. Murder has less influence on your life expectancy than how people treat you in day to day life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:55 PM
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The level of empathy on display is something men can match.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:52 PM
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Remember that tv show where a large group of women were cackling histerically at a story of a man getting castrated by his wife ? Women love violence against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:26 PM
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As for the rest……same old “women better watch out or else!!!!” It's funny how women interpret the possibility of men matching their level of ruthlessness out of desperation instead of entitlement as the most evil "threat" ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:18 PM
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I think deep down you're scared shitless of the idea that you would be that guy if you weren't gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:46 AM
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"Don't be sad or bad things will happen to you" I wonder how many more people toxic positivity has killed than depression. The assumption that the cynicism is the cause rather than the consequence will always annoy me. Anyways, depressive realism is a thing so regardless of how much you hate it, pessimistic people are more accurate in their judgment of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:40 AM
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Being valued for your achievements sounds great to women, being judged for their relative lack of achievements is what would actually happen to 98% of women if the roles switched. And before you say anything : I don't care if you're an exception, my point is not about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:13 AM
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I hate that I can't tell if this is a joke or not. The point is that from the perspective of evolution, having a child that has a 20% chance of reproducing 5 times and a child that has a 100% chance of reproducing exactly 1 time are basically equivalent. So even if the variance on the male side is much higher than the variance on the female side, the 50:50 balance will happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:07 AM
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It's been locker room bickering for centuries Like I said the last 1%(aka centuries) has been going a lot worse than when the players played and the coaches coached. The current trend where the coaches want to play too and that the players should wear cement shoes to make things "fair" for the coaching staff who aren't interested in annoying things like practice and training. This is what the bickering is about and fence-sitting isn't going to fix anything because not every single issue is one w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:13 AM
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A lot of modern attraction is essentially women selecting for traits that were either useful in a completely different environment than the one we are in OR traits that were never useful but are essentially peacock tails.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:57 PM
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wait, so the whole "Women share 20% of men" isn't really true? A lottery ticket that has 20% chance of winning you 100$ is worth roughly the same as a lottery ticket that has a 100% chance of winning you 20$. (context can drastically change their values obviously, but you get the point)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:42 PM
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I don't think that's what you meant, but I think it's very common for people to ignore implicit conditional statements when it comes to this stuff. There's a huge difference between wanting someone who doesn't want you to want you vs wanting someone who doesn't want you to be with you as they currently are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:15 PM
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What do those real resources look like? Because in my experience people pretty much always mean some variation of "helping" men accept the current paradigm and maybe do a little bit better within it. Which is not a real solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:28 AM
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Half a team can't play. Half a team did play for 99% of history and they did better than when everyone was playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:16 AM
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I think women have been taking advantage of men taking responsibility for their actions so ACTUALLY taking responsibility for your actions at this point means recognizing what's going on and not playing into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:14 AM
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I saw an homeless man win the lottery so there's no excuse for anyone claiming they can't afford a mansion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:07 AM
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So what you're saying is that the repill is correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:15 PM
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You almost never say anything that I wouldn't expect from a random boomer...they failed at convincing the current generation of anything so why do you think having the same ultra-dismissive aproach of being above a genuine debate on "taboo" topics will work now?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:48 PM
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Architects? Fucking hell...why are women always attracted to the shitty version of things? Can't they just grow up and see that engineers are basically better than architects in every way including stuff like morality and creativity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:38 PM
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“But but but” excuses about the messenger and not the facts. You're literally in the process of focusing on the messenger instead of the facts lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:35 PM
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Remember being called out as being in the “anger phase” when you whined? And told you’d get over it soon? Yeah that was when the grifter started doing things, I miss the actual redpill when those grifters got banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 04:02 PM
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so I am not sure how one thinks that she would fail if she were a man instead. You've been here too long to not know about women's in-group bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:37 PM
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I never said the redpill was rare I'm saying the guy you think is bluepilled IRL is probably agreeing with red/black pill stuff on 90% of things, he just doesn't want to deal with the label.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:29 PM
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I've seen plenty of IRL situations where dudes that normally looked insanely bluepilled dropped the act when no women were around. The beliefs are less rare than real life public displays would imply.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:03 PM
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I think you are conflating listening with agreeing. Men should listen to women more but agree less. You're giving these people too much power by trying to engage and argue. I disagree, I think men 200 years ago would have engaged and argued with those women much more aggressively than men today will and those women had less power back then. The reason those women are gaining power isn't that men are engaging with them, it's that men are wearing kids glove when engaging with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:24 PM
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First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:47 PM
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I did not think of the other people my ex-gf has kissed or fucked when I was with her, the same way her current boyfriend will not think of me when he kisses her or fucks her. You're focusing too much on what you consciously think about. Also no, why is everything on an extreme end? Because if we discuss something with nuance you'll go "nuh huh I don't immediately see the thing you're talking about so it must not exist". See my previous point for an example. Also, I think that the overwhelming m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 11:55 AM
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For instance, if we take a young woman (20) and a mature woman (40), will they agree on this? Agree? probably not. Act in accordance with the same principles? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 11:48 AM
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I think you are separating it in temporal categories so that you can get rid of the contradictions by saying the two contradictory thoughts happen at different points. I'd say most of this is women's cakeism, they are trying to get the benefit without the downside of a trait and blaming other people for failing to meet their impossible requirement. Which is also why women find liars so attractive : When you have impossible requirements the closest thing you'll get to what you want is someone lyi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 11:46 AM
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The baseline effort the average woman puts into her appearance is far higher than the average man I disagree. Women tend to do a couple easy very direct things but make very little effort beyond that. a woman's career has little to do with her attractiveness she just has to not be fat, she doesn't have to be muscular she just has to not be literally crazy, being extremely mentally stable and socially skilled is unimportant etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 11:28 AM
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call it playing games or whatever it's fine Do you not know what game theory is?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 12:05 AM
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it's a dead horse in the same way that evolution or 1+1=2 are dead horses.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:59 PM
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Ok, but in practice there's plenty of situations where honesty and support are going to be mutually exclusive so which one matters more?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:54 PM
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I know, just how much of it is actually genuine I'd say real life is almost never genuine because people feel way too much pressure to follow a script.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:49 PM
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why are men so against being truthful and direct Because they understand game theory and are playing it properly. If you look at male-male interactions, there's less lying than male-female interactions and there's a lot less lying than female-female interactions. Men aren't the problem. Men are willing to tell the truth to people capable of handling the truth and reciprocating honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:44 PM
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Any friendship where I have to watch myself lest I “emasculate” him is not a friendship I want. If you can't imagine a friendship where you have to actually consider the other person's feelings then you don't want friendships, you want acquaintances that treat you as if you were their friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 10:08 PM
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It's just one more instance of women having the social skills of elementary school kids without knowing it because not enough men are willing to point out their bullshit. some women are genuinely so immature they will get upset and act like it's normal to share everything with their friends and have no fucking clue that they are being self-centered weirdo's.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:55 PM
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But, I did eat steak this morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:55 PM
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It would take a hit with every friend who basically would tell me that they don't care about something important for me. I mean, you certainly don't seem to care about something that is important to them. So you're in no position to be upset when they tell you the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:49 PM
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I mean, assuming that women have super basic social skills it shouldn't be super hard to figure out which guys are struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:48 PM
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I agree, there is not a single woman in the world that would do something as fake as wearing makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 10:34 AM
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I’m not saying they are overconfident. Pilots are saying they are overconfident. Well this pilot doesn't seem to agree. Autoland being a thing kind of invalidates most of this conversation. These pilots actually tested it (in a simulator of course) and their results seem to agree with me. I'm going to stop linking things but I skimmed 6 videos and 5/6 agreed with my reasoning or tested it and the results alligned with what I predicted while only one disagreed and did so off-handedly without even…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:54 PM
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This reminds me of the stat that says most men think they can land an airplane in an emergency with no training. I've heard of 2 maybe 3 cases of guys actually doing that and I don't know of a story where someone trying to do that failed. I've also seen videos of people trying it (in simulators obviously) and they have a very high success rate. But even if it actually is as unlikely as you make it out to be your misandry is making you attribute this to men being overconfident in their abilities.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:19 PM
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I always feel like statements like these takes away from the struggles women can face in dating. Good. Women's struggles are generally overstated not understated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:54 PM
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I am not playing the victim. That's what someone playing the victim would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:35 PM
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Once you found the compatible one, mutual attraction is a given. No it's not, just because you are attracted to someone doesn't mean they are attracted to you. If you are sneakily including looks into compatibility that is just accepting the point of the post which was that Better looking = better partners
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:34 PM
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I've seen more men lose it because they were ghosted than because they were treated like a human being
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:53 PM
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If you take a random sample of 1000 people, your odds of finding someone great are higher than if you had a sample of 100 people. Do you actually disagree with that or are you just nitpicking?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:36 PM
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It's like complaining of the job market because it's hard or your social up bringing. You mean something completely justifiable that if is never done completely ruins society?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:17 PM
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When women were treated as lesser in society decades ago, what did they gain from men feeling bad for them? Most of the rights they take for granted today for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:15 PM
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but it's definitely not guaranteed to get you companionship or casual sex. That's not the problem, the problem is that it's not guaranteed to improve your odds enough that it would justify the extra effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:12 PM
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When people who do shitty jobs are taken for granted, they don't just figure out how to be even more useful...they stop being useful until the people who were taking their efforts for granted get a dose of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:08 PM
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it feels like you're failing to understand something and you're trying to blame the people who understand it instead of taking personal accountability. Stop playing the victim
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:03 PM
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Maybe I'm wrong but I think she cares about height as an indicator of other things rather than for it's own sake. So sure, I guess she technically cares about height but that's just semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:50 PM
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I do think there's truth to it because women who don't care about height as much tend to be much better people in general and not caring about height means they can prioritize more meaningful things to them so they are more likely to be with someone compatible with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:53 PM
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Cultures have negatives and positives about them...no one sane likes literally every single thing about their culture. I think western women (and their simps) are mainly about the aspects of western culture that I dislike and have almost none of the aspects of western culture that actually made it so successful. I know this is a vague answer but I just don't know how to give a satisfying answer that wouldn't take 2 hourse to write.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:23 PM
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I think people should take more responsibility for the problems they cause for others and if they can't do that society should cause problems for them until they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:58 PM
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All of those things are difficult, but the alternative is western women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 09:09 AM
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Chivalry isn’t telling you to change who you are. Chivalry is literally a code of conduct... if that's not telling someone to behave differently from how they naturally would I don't know what would count but your book certainly doesn't count either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:04 AM
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I'd want to see that research. That would surprise me. Why would there be anything suprising about women behaving like women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:36 AM
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there are stable normal women out there not sleeping with every shitty guy she sees, you just don't want them. In my experience, stable women are more in demand than unstable ones. The reason men don't hang out with those kind of women isn't that they don't want to, it's that they can't. Women actually have access to the male equivalent of those women, so for women their choice is the limiting factor while for men availability is the limiting factor. Treating those two situations as identical is…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:36 PM
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Women have more low qality suitors than men, they have more medium quality suitors than men and they have more high quality suitors than men. Women are just privileged there's not any kind of karmic balance magically making sure everyone is treated fairly somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 01:02 PM
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paperclip maximizer goes brrr
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 12:59 PM
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My argument is that it is irrelevant whether men are justified in demanding respect, because that's not the means through which they get or give respect anyways. The way this works is that men used to write and enforce the rules of the competition and then they competed on the individual level for personal rewards. The collective level (establishing and enforcing fair rules) is what allowed respect to be earned on the individual level. You are so scared of losing the competition you are giving a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 07:40 AM
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Demanding collective respect is female behavior. the patriarchy was not female behavior. Building roads is not female behavior. Actual male behavior is to find a balance between cooperation and competition not throw out the very things that made humans successful as a specie because you value the aesthetics of a lone wolf more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 02:18 AM
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Reading this sub makes me wonder how many of my son’s male classmates resent him for being tall. Well to put it politely, he will never have a true friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:16 AM
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He did the research for you and told you where to find the answer to your question. The fact that you're too lazy to google it yourself is not his fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 01:56 AM
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Back in 2020, Democrats tried to get women to sign up for the draft and guess who opposed it? Conservatives. The draft is a necessary part of a society, but it's a responsibility that functionally falls on men because it suits their skillset better and women would essentially be a liability in those roles. drafting women is just surface level thinking where you make everything directly equal with no consideration for the differences between men and women. It's nonsense that no one believes(inclu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:40 AM
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The men watching them are the ones losing their money for emotional validation, so I don't see how they are the thieves instead of the victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 10:17 PM
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You are more aware of mens experiences and i'm more aware of womens experiences and it is normal that we might not be aware of the experiences of the others. I think men are significantly more aware of women's experiences than women are aware of men's experiences. The core reason is that a huge part of the male experience is not showing signs of vulnerability in front of women. So instead of dismissing the experience of the other I'll tell you something from the male perspective: To me this feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 10:38 AM
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Yeah, I don't think it would benefit your cause to have people like her clearly, honestly and publicly state their beliefs about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 10:23 AM
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I would tell him show him statistics about rape accusation that are proven false (not just inconclusive) which are tiny. They are not tiny relative to the rape accusations that are proven true. face massive social stigma And social support, people who claim to be victims get a lot of benefits from that. Also, you're treating it as a purely rational thing, a lot of women are quick to say rape is about power but then the idea of a woman falsely accusing a man of rape for power related reasons does…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 10:09 AM
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We all know examples of: Average or unattractive men with very attractive partners who compensate with humor, charisma, musical talent, leadership, money, or status. No we don't. There's a lot of people who essentially think any man outside the top 5% is not an attractive man and any woman somewhere in the top 40% is a super attractive woman. So it leads to those people thinking they keep seeing men dating out of their league even when it's the woman dating out of her league.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:03 AM
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that doesn’t guarantee more matches so why do it? Think about this like you would a game of "guess who". There's a large group of people and you are trying to find the one that's a match. Do you a: guess extremely specific things hoping to get it right on that turn. b: try to eliminate as many options as possible(in the case of guess who that would be 50% of the options, in the case of dating that would be all the options who won't even entertain an initial interaction). The obvious answer is B.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:18 AM
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So basically what women find annoying about the apps is that they have to deal with the same problem men are but on a much much smaller scale?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:17 AM
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Who is doing drugs to "not get bored with your life"? Almost everyone who do drugs habitually, just because they don't state so doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:29 AM
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If you need to do drugs on any kind of consistent basis to not get bored with your life you're actually boring as hell as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:15 PM
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hold most chairs in the government Oh someone with a dick has a chair in the government or is extremely wealthy? I guess homeless men don't have any problems anymore. I think apex fallacies are adjacent to male hyperagency-female hypoagency fallacies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:01 PM
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In detail tell me what benefit in your life this is providing you? societies where individuals don't care about what other individuals are doing seem to very consistently go to shit relatively quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:43 PM
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This attitude is why so much of society is going to shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:40 PM
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if there is sufficient collective and social power to make men retaining their power infeasible to begin with. Ok? There isn't, so what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:26 PM
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Yeah, it's just so obvious that "hacking" our brains will be easier and more beneficial than hacking physical reality, but most people are incapable of thinking so I'll continue talking about realistic sexbots to get my point across..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:09 PM
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Here's what your logic looks like in a different context: Let's say all men agree that a new law will be made where voting requires a penis. Any woman who has a penis has the same voting access as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:05 PM
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You're viewing it as a linear thing where the guy at the bottom of the distribution of a trait should be the least desirable but that's not how this actually works. At the extreme end there's going to be weird shit going on...like maybe there's 1000 women in the world who are really into ugliness and that means the guys at the extreme end of ugliness will be desired by those women in the same way the average woman desires the guys at the extreme end of attractiveness. But if you look at the bigg…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 03:52 AM
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I’m not claiming that all false allegations are rare. I’m saying that maliciously fabricated allegations are rare It doesn't matter, because we don't know how rare false accusations of any kind are but you're still talking about it as if you knew. I’m saying that maliciously fabricated allegations are rare, precisely because malicious intent isn’t something statistics can reliably measure. You keep using the lack of evidence as evidence of absence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:41 AM
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The thing is why is the introvert complaining about not getting it, if they aren’t doing what’s necessary to get the outcomes they want? Is the attitude Im criticizing in you. If you're just going to throw contentless rhetoric at me I don't know how to argue with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:38 AM
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Because you can’t sit on your ass and expect girls to show up That does not address my point. You can't require that someone does something in order to prove that he shouldn't have done it. What is your argument against that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:31 AM
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Casual sex has always been the theatre of the party goers and fun havers. It was always for the vibey people who created serendipity for themselves by the nature of their prosocial buzzy lifestyle and interests. Holy, why are you running PR so hard for this? Anyways, the problem you seem to be having is that you don't view women as people. I'm saying that because if you view women as people then you recognize men's complaints as "I think women's expectations are bad and require an unreasonable a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:24 AM
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I’m not claiming that it is impossible for someone to fabricate an allegation with malicious intent. But those cases are rare... You were claiming false accusations are rare not that false accusations that are proven to be false are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:16 AM
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So I guess that means you care that I don't care?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:10 AM
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The thing is why is the introvert complaining about not getting it, if they aren’t doing what’s necessary to get the outcomes they want? They are complaining about what is necessary to get what they want. What is the problem with that? Do I only get to complain about the price of something being too high if I'm willing to pay the price first???
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:08 AM
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But those cases are rare and they are not what most of these statistics represent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:00 AM
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I know you don't care, but I don't care that you don't care so act your age.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 11:59 PM
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No, I am one of the people you're refering to. I am saying your idea of accountability is missing a variable so it skews your idea of what taking accountability actually looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 11:58 PM
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A bunch of reasons. Part of it is just math. If you have to select from pairs of value, then the more you prioritize one of the values the less likely you are to get a high score on the other. Part of it is based in my understanding of neurology, surges in emotions often have negative costs because the brain balances happiness that way for evolutionary reasons I won't get into. Part of it is understanding that excitement is not a static thing it basically requires a constant stream of "new" thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 11:09 PM
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I take accountability in the direct and indirect consequences of my actions. You take accountability in only the direct consequences of your actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 10:39 PM
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You're focusing too much on the exact details instead of the core principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 10:38 PM
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Kafka would be proud of you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 10:37 PM
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But those cases are rare and they are not what most of these statistics represent. The most common mistake I've seen when it comes to false accusations is women basically assuming that any accusation that wasn't proven false was true. Which is what you seem to be doing here and it completely undermines your entire post because you're basically claiming men are unreasonable for thinking they know something that wasn't proven in either direction only to then claim you know something that wasn't pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 10:11 PM
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A man can be a good guy and exciting. Sure, and you could win the lottery but no one acts like buying lottery tickets is a perfectly rational choice. I think it's very telling how often women base their argument on possibility instead of likeliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 11:39 AM
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Why do you make it sound like women choosing partners who sexually excite them is a bad thing? "most women filtered out good relationship traits for things that sexually excites them." seems like a pretty straightforward answer to me. It's about what is being sacrificed for excitement. Shouldn't that be a baseline for any relationship that involves sex, both partners finding each other exciting? People find Meth exciting, should doing meth be baseline for happiness? Again, it's not that exciteme…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 08:19 AM
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Your claim that men haven't evolved is funny to me because most of the things you're talking about as if they were just facts of nature are actually men evolving. By example, women didn't get their right to vote/independence/whatever because a feminist ordained it and the men were too scared to fight back. All of those things you're talking about are really just the consequence of men willingly changing in a way that benefits you. So my warning would be that it is not a permanent change at all a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:42 AM
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Promoting sexlessness to men would be a significantly worse strategy than trying to promote acceptance of losing their right to vote to women. Yes, the only way forward that maintains the things you currently like about society is for men to just bend over and take it...but that is not the only way forward for men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 06:27 AM
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so it makes no sense to count conception. Conception can occur days after ejaculation, I mean sure, we can separate it in more steps if you want. 1.sex 2.conception 3.pregnancy 4.birth 5.raising kid But this changes nothing about our discussion, it just pushes back the point where you consider men to be responsible to the sex part instead of the conception part which also means that's when women are responsible for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:37 AM
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1.Men and women do their part for conception. 2.women go trough pregnancy and give birth. 3.Men and women raise the child. There is no meaningful differences between the sexes when it comes to conception so if conception is enough for a man to be responsible for a child then it should be enough for a woman to be responsible for a child as well. Arguments against that would be motivated by sexism. Concerns about bodily autonomy would simply be pushed on the initial conception act. Classifying ste…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 12:56 AM
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(for men, it's age of consent to ejaculation in a woman. For women, it's age of consent to birth of child). Why the sexism?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 12:00 AM
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Why? If someone doesn't care about inconveniencing me, I'm not going to care about inconveniencing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:32 PM
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Is it me or does the whole 'men don't care about personality' thing a hoax? Yes and no, personality definitely matters to men but it's so rare for women to have good personalities that it's too much of a luxury standard for the non-exceptional man to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:17 AM
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I think most of your argument falls flat once you realize that lesbians have the highest divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:09 AM
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Women lying is obviously men's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:48 AM
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The answer to your gotcha attempt is literally already in the text. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:37 AM
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I heavily disagree that nice girls are just as common as nice guys. I think the majority of women are nice girls . What you're describing when you're talking about a woman asking a man she isn't in a relationship with to pay her bills is not the equivalent of a guy trying to be in a relationship with a girl and bailing once that doesn't work out. It's a level of entitlement far past what women are complaining about when they discuss nice guys, society is just extremely used to a high level of en…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:20 PM
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I'm a lawyer. Ok, so you do not enforce the laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:12 PM
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If a black woman makes a thread asking what's the most attractive race to men and the majority of men say "anything but black" but then a white woman makes a thread asking what's the most attractive race to men and the majority of men say "anything but white". It's obvious that the people being asked the question are not replying in good faith. It's not 2 meaningfully different samples, it's the same group of people being asked the same question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:00 PM
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Are you complaining about redpillers or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 11:30 AM
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if I say "I only have freedom because other men haven't killed me" Is that me fantasizing about being oppressed or murdered because I have too much of an ego or is that me just stating something that is obviously true? I think the assumption that this is a fantasy says a lot about how you come to your own conclusions.(emotionally instead of rationally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 10:35 AM
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The lack of 3rd spaces isn’t women’s fault. How about bars and restaurants closing down en masse during the pandemic? 3rd places were dying before the pandemic, that just sped things up. What about inflation rising far beyond what we all get paid, to the point that most people can’t afford to go out all the time? Doubling the workforce certainly didn't help, but I think a lot of the political decisions that allowed inflation to get this bad were from overly emotional and safe decision-making. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 09:30 AM
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Tons of things in society that historically use to support men's wellbeing are basically dysfunctional or non-existent now. And why do you think the reason those things are dysfunctional or non-existent now has nothing to do with women pushing those changes?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:54 AM
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Women are not responsible for the problems of men. They are as responsible for the problems of men as men are responsible for the problems of women. It is childish to blame women for the choices of men I'm blaming women for their choices. You're blaming men for the consequences of women's choices. It is always easier to blame others than take personal responsibility. No it's not. It's actually pretty socially punishing to complain about stuff that's not your fault as a man and people are unlikel…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:01 AM
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claiming that you are confident is about as reflective of confidence as claiming that you are trustworthy is reflective of trustworthiness. Confident and trustworthy people will say they are confident and trustworthy. So will insecure and untrusworthy people. You don't call somebody confident for holding a belief that has never been questioned, you call them confident for holding the belief under fire. Yes, and that includes the belief you are confident...but your definition excludes that which …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:01 AM
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I guess 1 year but 90% of my progress was made during a summer break where I gamed a lot. I think gaming in particular is an awesome way to learn because it's extremely repetitive and usually has insanely clear context and feedback without feeling like a chore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:59 AM
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I do think most of the changes to society that led to this constant increase in loneliness came from society listening to misguided women. the HRification of the world is not because of men, it's very much women's fault. We can't have 3rd places if it means men might make a woman uncomfortable in public. We can't have a woman's feelings questioned without being sexist assholes. We can't even allow men to look at hot women in videogames because they will develop unrealistic standards for women...…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:23 AM
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The other thing about confidence is that it means you don't run screaming and crying every time a woman questions it. Your idea of confidence seems to be more about confidently saying what is the most socially desirable thing. I think that a confident person would actually push back on someone making a claim they disagree with instead of dodging the situation to continue looking cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:40 PM
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Yes and no, there are studies about how women react to being aproached and for the most part they get deeply offended when unnatractive men aproach them. Basically when an ugly guy aproaches her it implies he thought he had a chance with her so the most common response is to try and establish how much the guy didn't have a chance. With that said, women love when a guy is attracted to them If he doesn't think he actually has a chance and it goes without saying that the average woman handles rejec…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:44 AM
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Sidenote, if a woman doesn’t like the term pick me, she’s a pick me who just doesn’t like being called out. This is a Kafka trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:53 AM
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But do you understand that using a measurement that's accused of being biased as proof that the measurment isn't biased is circular logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:28 AM
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Bias based on what? Sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:23 AM
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I hate modern soft sciences quite a bit and even I think it's a stretch to assume they would forget to account for such an obvious variable as priors. If you want to argue the studies are just straight up lying I would find that a much better argument.(still a bad one but a much better one)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:22 PM
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These women will not change their minds once you start restricting their freedoms. It's not about the women, it's about the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:02 PM
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You should insist more on the fact that ultimately we don't care about what biology dictates. We live in a complex human society. Caring about what biology dictates allows us to build societies around what our biology says which is a more effective strategy than pretending our biology doesn't exist. This is really fucking obvious when we talk about the more physical aspects of our bodies as no one is designing stuff for people with 6 legs because we don't have 6 legs. But the same thing applies …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 02:59 PM
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Well, in this case it's the women giving excuses because they don't want to self-improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 02:45 PM
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I guess an analogy would be that men have to treat womn like the super special girls they are or else women will not sleep with them. feminism was a show of good faith, feminists thought it was a sign of weakness and here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:49 AM
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like let's be honest, even as dudes we'd rather hangout with a bad boy type of guy than hangout with a guy that is shy, the first guy would have your back in a fight if push comes to shove and the shy guy won't, No, I'd rather hang out with someone that won't be a drama queen starting fights than someone that would. Also, shy people tend to be far more interesting as people than "bad boys" who are essentially just chaotic which is interesting for 10 seconds but gets old just as fast . we shame w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 12:56 AM
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both analogies fail because the victim already exists which is contrary to a fundamental part of the pro-choice side that life doesn't start at conception. So in the context of your pit analogy abortion would be for the woman to get a gun and shoot the kid because she doesn't want to help him...which seems even less reasonable than the guy just refusing to help. You possess no fewer rights than anyone else by being subject to obligations you yourself created So by your logic when a woman is deni…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 12:42 AM
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What a stupid fucking idea Yes, the idea that women somehow shouldn't have to pay taxes because they have to do the same thing men have always had to do in order to be allowed to vote is a silly idea that would lead to silly consequences that would destroy society. Your initial idea is the one that would doom society, mine is just an attempt to make that destruction less awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 10:18 PM
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so if you do indeed get hit by a truck why should the emergency room treat you for your accident? For a bunch of reasons none of which have to do with respecting your bodily autonomy. If anything, if you were unconscious they might treat you without knowing if you want treatment or not which would be a potential violation of your bodily autonomy. Consenting to sex in the moment is not consenting to every eventual outcome of sex, dummy. Ok, so you agree with financial abortion for men then?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 10:09 PM
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threat of jail for breaking laws is not a violation of bodily autonomy. It’s retributive and/or punitive for breaking laws… How does something being punitive means it's not a violation of your bodily autonomy???
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 10:03 PM
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I mean sure, we can do that but obviously instead of taxing women we would simply make them pay for every service that is paid for with taxes. And considering women are on average net negative tax contributors I don't think women want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:55 PM
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First off, I appreciate that this is a very well thought-out post where there's actually a chain of logic to follow. Unironically, good job and thank you. Anyways I don't believe you're correct that this will happen, you're correct that it's the destination were moving towards but I believe were on a self-correcting path that can't reach the destination. most of the "wins" women have gotten socially have come at a cost in resentment from men and that puts a limit on how far we can go in the dire…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:24 PM
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Nobody gives a fuck why men declined, they only care that they have. Women don't give a shit because they declined so much as people they can barely pretend to still have empathy. But men haven't declined as people basically at all, if anything they are much better people than before so a significant percentage of the male population still has the capacity to care for other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 05:40 PM
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Why are you posting a picture of a pedophile?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 05:25 PM
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Yeah but... why? Is there a reason to think it's not just gradual changes?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 03:18 PM
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Its become a more known thing but that just means more people around here making fun of it. Yeah about that, what men are doing and saying in front of girls like you is very different to what they are doing and saying when there's no one like you around. The joke is less of a joke than you think. The change is fairly obvious if you can genuinely make men feel like talking to you isn't a minefield which is something very few women can do at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 03:01 PM
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I think a lot of women tend have a very relativistic view of bad things by which I mean their idea of a bad person is defined relative to the average person which creates a situation where the average person can't be bad. In other words: your "some" is just you saying "yes only some women are in the top 20% of abusing systems and regulations" which is true by definition but doesn't change the fact that the majority of women abuse systems and regulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 02:44 PM
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So? Bragging that your parents are enabling your behavior was cool in elementary school maybe highschool.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:33 PM
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There's something funny about accusing someone of being entitled and 2 seconds later complaining that they aren't paying for your food.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:13 PM
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Women being in the driver seat is a self-fulfiling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 10:54 AM
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If that fails you can always give them a really firm handshake
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 10:53 AM
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Are you trying to kill your parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 10:49 AM
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Sometimes the worst thing that can happen to an ideology is that people try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 08:38 PM
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Most people are able to grasp this idea, which is why I find it odd people can't apply the same understanding to the rest of society. No, most people actually can't grasp this idea or ideas in general. Basically they can mimick something that resembles grasping the idea but its actually closer to memorization. They think of conversations in terms of what is the "correct" response not in terms of what is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:31 PM
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Yes, men being less sexist and having a very small in-group bias than women is probably the reason why there's not an equivalent supremacy movement for men which means women's supremacy movement has an advantage. But obviously as women exploit their advantage they are forcing men to adopt the same kind of strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 04:17 PM
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women did not fight for anything, they asked and men said yes....but I guess if you point that out that makes men look pretty good and women pretty bad for not doing the same and we can't have that right? More importantly, I agree that men should fight to break free but there's something off about the way you frame things...it's like you don't view it as a bad thing that people have to earn their freedom in blood. Men are trying to negotiate their way out of this because it would be better for e…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:52 PM
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Since this is obviously an AI response why not just ask chatGPT directly instead of him?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:10 AM
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In terms of effective work, I'd say women might work less than they did 200 years ago. Counting stuff like HR as a net negative really hurts women's contributions to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:38 PM
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Given what women consider a good choice, the reasonable solution would be to arrest that man for whatever crime he commited.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:37 PM
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I'm only saying that to preempt any Why did you mention your wife or sister at all? The issue is your reliance on annecdotal evidence not the details of your anecdotal evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:35 PM
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Don’t be obtuse! ☝️ I can't tell if you're making a joke about women being irrational
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:42 PM
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I know, but you shouldn't let rich kids act like they understand money because they inherited money to spend.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 12:39 PM
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but is this going to be a new normal? I think that every "win" women get comes at the cost of increased resentment from men and eventually once enough resentment builds up in men as a collective...there's nothing feminism can do to keep things going in this direction. Even if women managed to do that...the endgame is not "women win forever" it's "men lose first and women lose a little bit later". In the last century or 2 men have become significantly less sexist and women's response wasn't to sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 12:30 PM
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Having no experience is an experience in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:44 AM
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Holy fuck that sub is full of assholes projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:18 PM
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If women had evolved to have vaginas that are hermetically sealed shut unless she's turned on by the man, I suspect both sexes would be equally attracted to each other today. Well female ducks don't exactly have hermetically sealed vaginas but it's the same idea and the outcome is a lot of brutal rape not equivalent attraction. None of the mods understand what a naturalistic fallacy is so I'm not going to explain why that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 07:56 PM
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"unfairness is bad" is not a just world fallacy....wtf do you think a just world fallacy is?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:41 PM
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You would be focusing on women who are good people and who value good people. good people criticize bad people all the time. I think you have a tendency to only hear "I want bad people" when someone says "I want bad people to stop being bad". Because why not be focused on people in good relationships? If someone worse than you gets a more favorable outcome than you, it feels far worse than when someone better than you gets a better outcome than you. Maybe you would understand the problem with yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:19 PM
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She was very clearly promoting natural selection as a good system, so it's apropriate to point out various ways in which natural selection is a fucking awful system she wouldn't want to live under.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 07:55 PM
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You're conflicting patriarchy with having police. Yes, I am conflating them. the police interfering with rape is because that's their job Why? Because people are willing to pay the police to do that. Why? Because people believe the world is a better place when the police does those things. Why? Because we developed a sense of morality that goes beyond the brutal system that is natural selection. I could go on with the why's (and you should) but I'm going to stop there because it's all that we ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 07:53 PM
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It's the "patriarchal" system they hate that allows women to even be selective in the first place lol. It genuinely annoys me how much women take the benefits of civilization for granted. Like it never occurs to them that rape being illegal requires a justice system and a concept of morality that's basically non-existant outside of humanity...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:39 PM
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Not having the right to vote won't kill you either
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:38 PM
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Why do women keep talking as if they were independent just because they are dependant on a boss instead of their husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:18 PM
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Sorry but I (and women in general) prefer modern model of we both provide income and do chores) over previous I do chores and am at finantial mercy of a man. In both situations you're at the financial mercy of a man, the difference is between being at the finaical mercy of your husband vs the financial mercy of some random psychopath who couldn't care less if you live or die unless he can make a profit off of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:17 PM
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It's not because incels complain more on the internet, it's because women like the misogynistic rapey frat guy quite a bit and don't like the idea that they actually like those traits so they try and erase those aspects to justify their feelings. With incels, they don't want them in the first place and the incels trigger their cognitive dissonance because if their just world fallacies were true most incels wouldn't have been incels in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 08:09 AM
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I wish I could pretend I didn't know why the responses are acting like the woman was randomly getting attacked instead of being an absolute fucking moron with no self-preservation instinct dragging other people into a dangerous situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 07:51 AM
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I didn't see it, but the comments make it sound like the woman got randomly attacked rather than the girl fighting for her phone?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 07:37 AM
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Two people working means more money for your family. Do you remember supply and demand? What happens when you double the supply of worker?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:30 PM
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Ok??? Let's assume the girl is unnatractive... how does that justify her double standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:20 PM
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Ok, let's assume it was always a lie for both of the hypothetical men, how would that change the logic presented in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:03 PM
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I am saying it isn't surprising in the slightest. Why? Why does it matter if it's suprising or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:59 PM
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The point of the post was about inconsistent logic...you're reacting to the key words as if they were arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:55 PM
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It's not a good idea to ignore the balance between voting for your immediate self-interest and the collective interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:21 PM
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There isn’t a consistent set of rules for anything in life. If I said "dsahohdsagdsjpo[qaweq" you wouldn't think "the rules of language aren't perfectly consistent so I'm at fault for not understanding what he meant." Obviously there's a limit as no one expects anyone to describe every single atom of a chair but we do try and make the rules as consistent as possible and pretending consistency is not a good thing just because things are almost never perfectly consistent is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:09 PM
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Also, this is super obvious but if modern men collectively started treating women the way men in the Neolithic treated women you would definitely consider that a "mass male uprising"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:43 PM
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Yet there was no "mass male uprising" What are you talking about? The Neolithic was super fucking violent?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:38 PM
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The issue is not that men think it's all or nothing, it's that women refuse to set consistent rules and instead insist on rules they can change on a whim based on what benefits them the most in the moment. When you have rules that inconsistent and you combine that with pickiness, people are going to avoid taking any risks with you because there's no way to safely explore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:06 PM
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Yes they are, I'm saying the majority of people who figure it out don't live quiet and happy lives. You're trying to "both sides" it, I'm not. That's a huge difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 01:17 PM
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Describing how women see men as “targets” already is weird Relativity is also very weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:18 AM
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oh and also: Feminism is basically proof that men were willing to compromise with women on a large enough scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:30 AM
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The ones who do figure it out live quiet and happy lives and we never hear from them. No. If 10% of women figure it out and 50% of men do, you're going to have 40% of men who have a pretty good reason to complain about the other 90% of women who didn't get it. It doesn't have to be a zero-sum(or negative-sum) game but when people treat it as zero-sum it makes it zero-sum for the people who understands it doesn't have to be zero-sum too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:28 AM
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I’ve been on this sub long enough to know exactly what vague “variable” you’re hinting at. That wasn't the point of contention there, it was you interpreting "less likely" as "decide the only thing she values is his face".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 07:17 PM
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It's funny that my sentence very clearly said "the more weight you put on a variable the less likely..." and somehow you still interpreted it as me declaring with 100% certainty the only thing she values was his face. It's like you're actively trying to not understand so you modify the statement in "subtle"(to you) ways until you can dismiss it offhand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:44 PM
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How do you not understand the difference between "Average men can't be abusive" and "the more weight you put on a variable the less likely you are to get a good result in the other variables"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 01:34 PM
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The female equivalent of an incel would be like 99% of all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 01:31 PM
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Those men will vote for policies that prevent women from being able to enjoy physical, professional and financial autonomy and pretending otherwise is just dishonest. I've listened to enough women around here so: Who cares if women struggle in an area of life they deem important? None of those things are necessary for survival so they should just deal with it right? Plus these things don't just happen in a vacuum, for women to have financial autonomy despite being net negatives tax contributors …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:47 AM
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I think that if I wanted to address this problem on a governmental level pretty much all of my focus would be on teaching girls to be less narcicistic and more accountable. I would not even bother talking about what boys should do because they are such a small part of the problem and boys mental health does not need more male hyperagency bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:33 PM
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Not everyone is psychopathic enough to lie like a salesman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:05 PM
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"The last straw didn't break the camel's back therefore no straw will ever break the camel's back."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:52 AM
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You can't think of pursuing happiness and self fulfillment in a more long-term, holistic sense, so you mind automatically goes to people committing crime in order to achieve whatever "feels good" to them. Since you apparently think I'm such a person, that means we both agree that people whose pursuit of happiness would be extremely detrimental to society exists. You can't just decide that everyone who pursues happiness is going to do it exactly in the way you want them to so you have to consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:35 AM
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The trick to being rich is to buy a lottery ticket and win. Works 100% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:58 AM
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I've noticed that a lot of gay men ramp up their gayness(or straight up directly state it) when they talk to women that don't know they are gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:54 AM
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“Nothing is ever my fault”. Why can't you take responsibility for the systemic factors you contribute to?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:01 AM
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They don't fit her narrative exist duh
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:57 AM
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The machine that is built by mindless crowds would cease to exist if crowds stopped being crowds and became individuals. I don't see why mindless individuals that build nothing of value due to mindlessly pursuing their short-term self-interest are better than mindless crowds accidentally tricked into building stuff of value. if you die just because someone stops being a mindless drone and seeks out self fulfillment, was your life really worth living? I don't see why someone shooting me in the ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:15 PM
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but apparently people are afraid of it being all Asian people who “don’t add enough” to the social scene. I don't care about the social scene but I don't think the education system as it currently is is doing a great job at figuring out how good kids actually are at whatever their education is supposed to be about. Also I think there's a feedback loop where the people who do the best in a field will influence the field the most and that means the next generation will be more like the ones that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:35 PM
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You generally don't seem to view men as actual human beings so it would be weird if you cared about men's feelings in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:21 AM
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I believe you're right, half the current tragedies would be solved, and then 10 times as many tragedies would arise from large scale systems failing because the individuals supposed to take care of them just kind of stopped as it was more productive for them to race to the bottom. I'm not willing to die so that you can feel more personally accomplished for 2 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:10 AM
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if you marry a less attractive woman or if your wife gets fat or bitchy or ages poorly then you're sort of stuck with her. The lack of choice forces people to do their best working trough issues within the relationship instead of bailing any time something doesn't go their way. So it's less of a con as you're making it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:13 AM
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He said "guarantees that doing self improvement will increase his chance of"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:32 AM
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Here's an actual blue pill experiment. It's the other way around where it was trying to prove that women have it harder, and ended up showing the opposite. The mods of this place deleted it because they aren't biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:13 AM
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You're right in the same way the nepo-baby at the company is always right.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 12:13 PM
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I'm making this post directed to men, because on this sub, there's this idea that it's stupid for men to raise their standards. You just accused men who do it of being pathetic and dumb in 10 different ways but you never even bothered to give an actual argument against the idea that the average man gets a better expected life outcome from keeping their standards realistic. In my experience, men who keep their standards higher than they can reasonably get are on average less happy than people who…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 12:12 PM
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I wish people like her made some effort to hide their mental health issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:59 AM
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Is this your first time seeing a woman? Sometimes it takes them years of leaving their hand on the stove to figure out it smells like burnt flesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:55 AM
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Just based on your post, I can guess that virtually no one that cares about birthrates would think it's a good idea to share that with you...so I'm not sure why you're suprised that you don't see it in real life a whole lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 02:10 AM
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I think the better you are at seeing women as people the less likely you are to have a positive opinion of the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 04:26 AM
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Everyone's happiness is their personal responsibility. Were human beings...we solve tragedy of the commons instead of racing to the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 04:25 AM
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Brushing off people’s complaints until it comes with swift consequences is some a child does Something else children do is cry wolf all the time to get attention from their parents. What do you think a parent should do when their child keeps crying wolf?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:06 AM
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Why is the comment you responded to not removed for obviously dodging the main point of the post??? It's hilarious given this context that you gave a pass to a woman for breaking the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:55 AM
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When men stop oppressing women, women start oppressing men and men do a better job of succeeding despite women's attempts at oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 04:28 AM
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I swear, someone could discuss how an incel jumped in front of a bullet to save a woman's life despite her spitting in his face multiple times 3 seconds earlier and you would still conclude the incel is an asshole for letting some of his blood accidentally hit the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 04:24 AM
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why don't men advocate for a seperate land free from rapists women? Because men are rational? Yes, a very small chance of being raped is not a good thing but the problems that would come with separating the two genders at this scale would be orders of magnitudes worse. A lot of women had very privileged lives and take for granted what makes that possible. So they don't understand they have to pick the lesser of two evils, they want to have their cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 02:30 AM
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You're the one who said men can't be like women because they're concerned with extinction No, I didn't. You interpreted it that way because your understanding of humans is limited to their conscious thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 02:10 AM
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Do you ever stop to ask yourself "Did I actually understand that right?" because you really should.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 10:22 PM
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The grass is always greener. I think that when both men and women deal with the same problem, men usually find it less of a problem than women. By example, men are more likely to be murdered/victims of violence than women...yet if you only listened to women you would think violence against women is 50 times more common than violence against men. Which brings me to my point about listening to the other sex: I think a lot of women think they aren't being listened to when their problem is the oppos…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 10:49 AM
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men burned by shitty women, and women burned by shitty men. Women get burned by individuals and then take it out on the majority of men. I agree with that, but I don't think that's whats going on with men. The things women complain about tend to be things that can be huge problems even if a very small percentage of the population is doing them. i.e if 1% of men are violent that's still a huge problem. While the things men complain about tend to be things that are only problems if a significant p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 07:43 AM
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Shouldn't he be willing to do the same as what he's asking for? Men's in-group bias is already pretty much non-existant. Equality just feels like oppression to you. Also, how does posting diatribes blaming women for your problems here on Reddit help to accomplish the goal of women being less sexist? The first step to solving a big picture social problem is to recognize it exists, and the 2nd step is to try and get enough people to recognize it too. This kind of stuff starts in a trivial way and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:53 AM
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Sexual attraction exists for the sake of sexual reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:43 PM
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Patriarchy existing doesn’t mean every man’s life is easy Sure, but patriarchy existing(in the way most people think of it) should mean that on average men have an easier life than women. If that's not the case you're just looking at some kind of oligarchy and calling it patriarchy because there's more men than women in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:35 PM
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I read that the first time...My criticism was that the thing you're freaking out over is a small semantic choice rather than a meaningful mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 11:09 AM
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Why wouldn't evolution develop those desires?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:18 AM
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I don't see why men can't do what women do. Extinction
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:21 AM
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What do you think the point of this post is? Because it feels like you read the words "male issues" and stopped thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:21 AM
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It's very telling that you focused on nitpicking a small part of the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:19 AM
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Seems like men are incapable of doing that on their own? We are more than capable of fixing these issues. However, women didn't like it when we fixed those issues ourself and it would be better for everyone if it didn't have to be a fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:14 AM
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He's trying to get women to treat his problems the same way they would treat the problems of an average woman. Basically he's asking women to be less sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:12 AM
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If society got better at critical thinking, they would understand Billy being able to get laid before turning 25 and Billy being able to read are way more connected than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:08 AM
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If men never said "you're right, I see what you're saying" feminism would not even exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:45 AM
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Criticizing people who judged someone fairly is not equivalent to criticizing people who judged someone unfairly. Expecting the same response is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:40 AM
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Are you confident you understood my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 01:17 AM
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Majority of the PPD women are happily married Yes, women really do live life on recruit difficulty, what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 12:59 AM
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yeah yeah, it's annoying that I'm appling your logic to both sides instead of only applying it when it benefits women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 12:55 AM
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Are the students not expected to communicate their ideas clearly?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 12:40 AM
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what good would that do? I mean realistically the first step towards the world changing is the acknowledgement that it's current state is bad. I don't believe that someone who genuinely thinks there's a problem can't come up with at least one thing that could possibly marginally improve things with relatively low effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 01:57 PM
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It was an either or statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 01:52 PM
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Actual intellectual consistency would either make them extreme paranoids who don't leave their house ever or if they weren't paranoid they wouldn't worry a whole lot about unlikely events.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 01:28 PM
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I thought you were just saying that you are choosing to be the way that you are instead of being forced into it. Disagreement with me is not why I had no issues with you describing yourself as a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 01:27 PM
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I don't need to be a simp I mean, choosing to be a simp when you don't have to just seems worse than being one out of desperation?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 10:21 AM
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Partners should be able to anticipate needs and read between the lines. Ok, women keep failing to anticipate men's need for clear communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 01:58 AM
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I don't think you meant to, but you proved my points very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:24 PM
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I agree with the logic when applied at a small scale, but at a large scale things get weird. at a small scale, there's 3 chads in your village and a woman will quickly learn if they are assholes/in a serious relationship/not interested in her beyond easy sex/etc... In a large city, there's effectively an infinite number of Chads so a woman can just keep gambling on the next one being different forever. plus large cities typically have more conveniences which means more Mouse utopia bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:47 PM
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In real life, most people do not share their opinions on basically anything unless the situation basically forces their hand. It's also very easy to end up spending all your time with people who are similar to you in real life because there's a bunch of funnels like education and career that pushes similar people together. You need to stop viewing the online world as worthless on the basis that it doesn't perfectly reflect "real life" 1 to 1. Both the real world and the online world have signifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 07:32 PM
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Childhood beliefs : Fairness is important Adult belief : Fairness is important What SHOULD change is your understanding of why fairness is important, as a kid it can be for a million different reasons but the main one is going to be : Because other people told me so. As an adult you should be able to mentally go trough some kind of super basic game theory and come to the conclusion that fairness and enforcing fairness is why humans do so much better than all the animals who don't give a shit abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 06:10 PM
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The most exploitative part of the industry is the exploitation of mentally ill men willing to donate their money to those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:45 PM
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women treat bottom 50% men in the same way that psychopaths treat everyone. Which is to say : They don't give a flying fuck about them whatsoever so if there's any opportunity to exploit them in some way they won't even register that choice as a moral one because they aren't hurting "real" people in their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 09:34 PM
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I don't care about your purity tests or your Kafka traps. If you want an adult conversation you can respond to my previous comment properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:00 AM
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The "loser" class of society ironically is one of the most influential overall because they have little to lose, and are much more aware of how society actually functions under the hood so they speak way more honestly than pretty much everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 04:21 AM
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1:Some people are calling everyone they dislike Nazis/fascist/etc... 2:Those same people are also saying that it doesn't matter how you treat Nazis/fascist/etc... If you manage to put 1 and 2 together, it becomes really obvious why that's a problem for people who actually dislike Nazis/fascist/etc... and aren't just abusing the emotional weight of those words for a little bit of social leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 04:13 AM
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I'm so confused by what you're trying to say. Are you saying that treating women like people and holding them accountable for what they say is putting them on a pedestal?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 09:19 PM
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Income is relevant to the argument you think he's making. Income is not relevant to the argument he's making. He is arguing that "Feminist opposition to legal paternal surrender/paper abortion is clearly not actually about the best interests of the child". So income would be a relevant argument if feminists allowed for legal paternal surrender/paper abortion in the case where the mother makes enough money...but since feminists don't do that, it's an irrelevent argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 08:52 PM
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To build a high-trust society you need to reward people who engage in high-trust behavior and punish people who exploit high-trust behaviors. Women were essentially exploiting men trusting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 07:14 PM
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The most popular example is when guys claim “society sees women as victims and men as the perpetrators because of feminism”. This is generally true and accurately describes reality, your anecdotal examples don't change that. In all your hatred of victim mentality, you forgot that sometimes people actually are victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:44 PM
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Your ancestors Right, I didn't specify a time range so clearly I was comparing Gen Z men to hunter-gatherers. give me a break that's my line.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 08:03 AM
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<image> Every year men are expected to work harder for less reward. Why can't you see where this is going???
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:35 AM
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A number a red pills in here literally threatened to rape women if women don't put out for them or take away their rights. Or, maybe you just aren't great at separating is from ought.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:57 AM
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One of the reasons I believe young men are so miserable is because they think their 20s are suppose to be easy. No they don't. They think their 20s are supposed to be a time where they can meaningfully invest into their future and (in large part because of the culture you're promoting right now), it's simply not a smart investment anymore. You're the problem because you made the incentives what they are while pursuing your short term self-interest. Now that people are responding to the incentive…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 08:16 PM
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How is it like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:57 PM
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Reminds me of this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuvckBQ1bME
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:33 PM
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none of my bfs or my husband have, why are you all such giant pussies A huge part of the emotional labor is making sure women don't understand you're doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 12:24 AM
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Yeah, having a basic understanding of the structure of your society is a clear sign of a victim complex. What's next? pointing out that welfare not being a gradual thing is evil?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:13 PM
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Seems like a coping mechanism to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:07 PM
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but what else is there? those are just the only ways. Historically, collective improvement(yes, that is brutal) is what tends to happen as an actual solution to structural problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:06 PM
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I agree with you that In the short term nothing will change because women will just aproach the top guys... But in the long term a thing that has happened quite often after wars is that women aproached more AND aproached guys they would not have previously aproached. Evolution works pretty well and attraction being a genetically determined constant is clearly not as good of a strategy as what you find attractive adapting to your environment. In other words: If you increase female-female competit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 05:09 AM
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I think "losers" are essentially the reason why humanity is successful while "winners" are just doing a better job racing to the bottom of the Fisherian barrel.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 02:50 AM
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the reason the west is better for women is feminism. Women did not force feminism on men. Men allowed feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 02:44 AM
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solipsism is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 12:02 AM
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Totally agree. I think sex positivity in general would do a lot to dismantle gender war hostility. Well, why hasn't it? The correlation between sex positivity and gender war hostility is pretty much the opposite of what you're suggesting. So I guess you believe there's some kind of threshold where the obvious pattern shifts? So what's that threshold and why is it special?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:19 PM
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Can you explain what you think my point was?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:23 PM
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Ok, so you agree with the premise my point started with...What's your response to my actual point?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:18 PM
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but there are some real wolves in sheep’s clothing out there. If women put 1/100th the effort they put on spotting those guys on spotting wolves that aren't even trying to hide it, they would get 50 times better at avoiding bad and dangerous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:17 PM
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We can't help that we're not into certain types of guys. If the lust isn't there, what do you want us to do? Be clear upfront instead of taking advantage of orbiters and more importantly: Accept the consequences of your honesty. That means not doing shit like comparing your situation to guys not finding morbidly obese stinky women to you not finding an average guy attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:14 PM
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Woman want someone who can be warm kind without needing kindness in return. This is a very sane and normal thing to want Wanting to have your cake and eat it too is not particularily sane, it's shortsighted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:08 PM
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Clearly you think dating opportunities are far less significant than equal rights. That makes your argument weaker not stronger because men are asking for less than women and women are showing they can't even tolerate equality in the small stuff. Or to put it in other words: Women are failing the shopping cart test.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 01:56 PM
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I just want to be clear but my point was that this is a catch 22. It's hard for men to actually acknowledge it because women punish the acknowledgement of it. So what I think will happen if women don't stop abusing this trap is some kind of Dazexiang uprising that women will not like. Also, the last thing women should do right now is try to blame men for it because what they would functionally be saying is "It's men's fault for letting women do it" which is more of an argument for repealing the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:23 AM
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Lmao! 🤣 This sounds like a loser man’s wet dream! They want no competition for a mate because they have no ability to compete so they try to mumbo-jumbo their way into increasing the population of women without thinking of the consequences. I mean I guess the main consequence, assuming women are as competent as men, is that the women already here would have more competition for finding a mate than before. And you were just implying men would be silly for complaining about something like that soo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 09:17 PM
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24?? I thought you were in your 50s.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:55 PM
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You talk such a big game about the thrill of weightlifting and shit so why is your bench barely better than my highschool bench???
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 03:19 PM
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Yeah yeah, I'm crazy for discussing the incentives instead of playing whack a mole with people who cross the line. I've heard that a thousand times no need to break rule 2 just to say that. Anyways, let's ignore that women even exist then. I'm a man who doesn't rape or murder other men so what can I do to stop other men from doing that? Yelling at them after the fact like you're doing seems very emotionally satisfying for you but it doesn't seem very effective. I think it's about incentives so i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 02:06 PM
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The interesting part is how little women call them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 01:23 PM
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Why? He did the same thing a couple of times already, he understands the best way to ruin someone like that is to leverage TDS against the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 01:22 PM
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Where the fuck is your ambition mate? Elsewhere. There's a billion things you can work on and insecurity is a high effort low reward area. People have been complaining about "men acting like children" - Isn't this exactly what it's all about? The complete lack of ambition, being afraid of discomfort and hard work? Preferring to stay inside with videogames and porn? If the juice isn't worth the squeeze, the only rational decision is to not squeeze. Some people are mentally ill so they will squeez…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 01:19 PM
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I feel like MRAs spend too much time complaining about women and not enough effort ameliorating male on male rape and murder rates or supporting those survivors. What makes you think women's behavior has nothing to do with why this type of stuff happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 01:12 PM
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That said, the masculine bravado to assert that women are not capable of hurting men in any way that matters doesn't help. That reaction from men is like 90% a result of men understanding that things get worse not better if they show weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 12:52 PM
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Some men don't like this very much and are scrambling and finger pointing because they don't want to look that maybe being a sexless bitter miserable scrooge is scaring women off. It's very telling that your explanation for why men are sexless presuposes that they are sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:15 PM
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You listen to them/watch what they do and if they sound smart and look responsible relative to their age you can assume they have a good chance of staying on that path for basically the rest of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 06:56 PM
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Most of the specific enough stuff in STEM would get you that same reaction if you tried to explain it to a normie. Hell, most proven conspiracy theories would get you that reaction. Normies are a good gauge of what's popular, not what's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 05:29 PM
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I also find it funny how when you do go out, you just see normal people dating each other. That makes it sound like you're one of those people whose idea of a normal person doesn't account for silly little details like survivor bias?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 05:13 PM
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I mean by the time someone is 18 you can usually tell how much "bucks" they will have. But, I guess understanding the nuances of this conversation is scary to people like you so it's better to retreat to cheap gotchas.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 05:11 PM
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https://www.tiktok.com/@yuvaltheterrible/video/7351885442821803306 https://www.tiktok.com/@meghan__lane__/video/7509905126383947054 I just googled their name + height and it confirmed I was right.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 02:41 PM
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her make bf is literally unremarkable Are you talking about the dude that looks to be about 6'3?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 01:42 PM
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Like genuinely, at what point are we gonna stop this bullshit Once the boomers die. The younger generations of men are aware of how fucked things are, but there's a lot of naive boomers who stil buy women's bullshit and those are the people giving women a majority control. But can we stop gaslighting young men and just tell them the truth? The truth that a lot of them will be unfit for dating just for being themselves, and many will struggle in getting a date for reasons outside of their control…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 12:59 PM
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Damn, if you add 50 things to their list they might become half as demanding as the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 11:11 AM
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who’s debate points are regularly torn apart here… I think I've seen one instance of him being attacked and it was basically a bunch of "people" going "But but violence is bad!" in response to an argument about all forms of power fundamentally being derived from violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 11:10 AM
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The stock market was always a meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 12:00 AM
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If one gender has control in certain dating dynamics over the other gender it's stop being balanced. Not necessarily, you just need men and women to both have control over the other in different dating dynamics so that the overal picture is balanced even if each individual part is not. The problem with feminism is that it ONLY tries to balance the parts where men had the advantage while making things even less balanced in the parts women have an advantage
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 09:00 PM
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Dogs genuinely see you like a part of their family or a friend while cats see you more like a food dispenser.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:48 PM
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Why do you care if men have a legitimate reason to be angry at women? Your whole point here is that whatever women do, it's just in women's nature so regardless of the consequences it's just life and men have to deal with it instead of complaining about it right? So why not apply that logic to men? "Men complaining about it being harder to find dates is like women complaining about periods." but it's also like YOU complaining about men right now. The anger towards women that the red pill embrace…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 02:58 PM
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I mean, it's kind of like if 20% of the population started shitting in the pool. Yes, not going to pools where people shit in them would be extremely restrictive but if you allow people to shit in the pool they are going to do it. So there needs to be a collective effort to stop people from shitting in the pool and that results in things being less restrictived. If everyone is too focused on their immediate concern then everyone will "solve" the problem by changing what pool they go to instead a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 02:36 PM
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It's not, Saying that's what you want(general you) and then not acting accordingly is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 12:27 PM
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Where do you all get the idea that women don’t like “weakness”. We watch women's actions and decisions instead of listening to their virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 10:32 AM
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I know virtually anyone sane would agree that women have at least 1 behavior they aren't regulating, but I don't know which one it is. You(or whoever disagrees with me) do know what that behavior is. So from my perspective, being specific about one behavior just focuses the conversation on the validity of that one claim that has pretty much no influence on my main point. In other words : You're asking me to find, trough bruteforce, the thing you agree with and will act in good faith about instea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 06:02 PM
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I always viewed capitalism as a better system than most other systems because it's built to account for and try to leverage human flaws agains't themselves. Basically a lot of people view capitalism as "pro" greed and I view it as the simple acknowledgement that people are greedy and we need to make a system that tries to redirects that greed in ways that are useful for society instead of pretending people aren't greedy. Why am I talking about that? Because I think a lot of the modern systems ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 12:03 PM
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Friends, therapy, solo travel, do something to break the cycle and gain some positive self-esteem. They're men, therapy is going to tank their self-esteem not improve it. They will get better at hiding their suffering tough which I assume is what you actually want in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 12:27 AM
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Apples and oranges are comparable and the expression just highlights that a large number of people don't understand the concept of comparisons.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 10:06 PM
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If you extrapolate what has happened with women making more money to them making 10x as much as men, my guess is that we would go extinct. That's assuming there's some kind of magical force keeping things that way no matter what but if there's no magic involved it would just naturally go back to a more stable state very quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 09:54 PM
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Everyone is too invested in policing the other gender when they should be policing their own gender. I think men actually did too much policing of men women dislike like incels, redpillers, blackpillers, etc... and too little policing of women,simps,men women like,etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:22 PM
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Finding a relationship is not about "power". I don't understand how that's a coherent reply to what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:05 PM
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I think it would, not for the practical reason but just because it sends the message that men aren't 2nd class citizens which might wake up a few women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 12:46 PM
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He said the male way of insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 12:02 PM
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Because he didn't create his wheelchairs, others did, Ok, but those people they did have to use physical force right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 10:53 AM
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Can you create a wheelchair without using any physical force?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 10:33 AM
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No, If all poor men united against all rich men, the poor men would win. So it's the opposite, rich men only have rights because poor men allow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 08:56 AM
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it ignores all the other aspects of humanity other than physical power. There's no amount of say social power that can pick up a fork without some amount of literal physical force.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 08:53 AM
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You don't understand what bodily autonomy means. Your body is the "tool" you use to interact with the world and it's influenced by those interactions... so anything that forces you to do something againt your will, is going to infringe on your bodily autonomy. Restriction or compulsion of a behavior is not a direct infringement on your actual body. If we restricted doctors from performing abortions it would have an indirect influence on women's bodies rather than a direct one. So according to yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 08:35 AM
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People have to act like your parent to for you figure out that you should value what people tell you? If by "act like your parent" what you mean is "communicate clearly like adults" then yes. If you don't value your own words, I'm not going to value them either and that's on you not me. Communication involves two people, but a lot of women seem to think they are entitled to being understood regardless of how clear they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:09 PM
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Do you think it's more likely he will get killed by someone on his side or his opposition?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:00 AM
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I hate the idea of AI in general because I do agree with the idea that if anyone builds it we all die. The implication of that is that I think AI(at some point) will be so powerful that whatever small drawback there might be from me knowing it's an AI(If I can even tell) is going to be more than compensated in everything else. I think some people have a very shallow understanding of AI so they imagine essentially a slave in the classical sense but that's kind of silly. The core idea of a slave i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 08:40 AM
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Well, there's a thing called Fisherian runaway which is basically guaranteed to happen if women have no restrictions on who they want to choose. The outcome is extinction and a whole lot of suffering on the way there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 05:08 PM
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I mean, women have 1/10th the power men have but are abusing it like crazy. So women should feel ashamed a thousand times more than men and have no right to shit on men over this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 04:56 PM
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Women being financially independent from men is a good thing. I wish, the average woman is a net negative tax contributor over her lifetime and men are the ones paying for it. All that really changed is that society created a bunch of layers of obfuscation so women feel like they are independent because they don't understand where the money comes from but they are arguably more dependent than ever. With a fair playing field It seem like your idea of a fair playing field is one where men actively…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 04:50 PM
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Yes, just outsource the work to magic and hope your partner never starts wanting the same freedoms you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:04 AM
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I mean that really depends on what your goals are. If you're trying to speedrun getting back to a patriarchy, you're doing a good job. If that's not your goal, you're being extremely short sighted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 08:58 AM
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woosh
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 04:34 AM
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Things don't change so fast that young men went from having the privileges of the past to dealing with modern bullshit. They simply always dealt with modern bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 04:30 AM
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When's the last time you didn't take an opportunity to humble brag?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 04:23 AM
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Why? I think integrity and the ability to think about long term consequences are valuable traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 02:31 AM
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Reminds me of those stories about women who do that kind of shit and end up getting killed by the simps. I think it's wild that women can be such massive assholes exploiting mentally ill people and simps will focus on the fact the dude shouldn't have fallen for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 02:26 AM
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"Being seen as a threat" can theoretically get you killed, but that's a second order threat to just being killed outright. Women are worried that being seen as desirable/rude/whatever, can theoretically get them killed too... Your argument feels like nothing more than semantics. We're talking about murder in this specific context. https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/realities-intimate-partner-homicide? No were not? The post is pretty obviously about women being scared of men that are aproaching the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:42 PM
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It's not a strategy realistically worth doing on purpose but it definitely works because after all 90% of the reason women are attracted to Chad is because they (subconsciously)think he is great at violence so if you're better than him at violence you get the advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 06:35 AM
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That some lesbians give a shit about people besides themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 05:50 AM
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I can guarantee a lesbian does not gaf about how men feel about approaching women; when they speak about their experiences with creepy men. I disagree, I think there are plenty of lesbians that are good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 05:30 AM
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Men don't want to be seen as threats, women don't want to end up murdered. The consequences of being seen as a threat can definitely include death. Women are typically LESS likely to be murdered than men, It's bad faith to focus on what women are afraid of instead of what is actually happening to them. What is even supposed to be your point? I don't see an actually relevant criticism of the post you're replying to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 05:30 AM
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This victimization thing is self-fulfilling and pointless. No one else will save you. There's a reason this behavior was consistently selected for by evolution. I'll frame it differently. Let's say you had 2 villages that each needed to walk a long distance to get water. One village is all about self-improvement, so they constantly train so that they can run that distance faster and faster with less and less effort. The other village is full of "victims" who "whine" about the long travel...and e…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 12:25 AM
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Not really, the blackpill is just the more theoretical side of the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 11:57 PM
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The reddit mod of reddit got moderated by the reddit mods of real life. This isn't much of a win.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 11:56 PM
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You could probably whip up an AI that does a really really good job at it, but it would fail anyways because women would keep being very compatible with men they don't want to be compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:25 AM
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Misogyny has not decreased at all Ok, so you're not serious and you're just saying whatever would benefit your side the most in the moment. If you can't even admit that men 100 years ago were more misogynistic than men today then I'm not going to waste my time on this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 04:23 AM
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The best case scenario would be that women stop abusing men's good faith and we drop all gender roles not just the ones that women dislike. But since women will not allow that because they think not having your cake and eating it too is oppressive then the next best choice for men is to match women's energy and enforce their gender roles too. Think about the fact that men becoming less misogynistic over the last century or two led to women becoming more misandrist and it tells you everything you…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:51 AM
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It’s extremely uncomfortable. I'd say all things considered it's an extremely minor inconvenience compared to what men are going trough. So they can deal with it like adults instead of throwing a tantrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 11:22 PM
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Oh and btw men were like this for most of recorded history. Given the option, they'll do it again. We're the fucking same. No we are not the same. The option never went away, men literally chose to not abuse the leverage they had and still have. The gender war is not a "both sides" type of issue, it's women refusing to share the blanket.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 11:19 PM
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No, it is not oppression. But if tomorrow women decide that they would only date slaves and all men that are not slaves would die incels... Men would become slaves. No they wouldn't. There's a point where men just go "Would I rather be X or opress women?" and the answer stops being x.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 10:08 PM
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Jesus dude, getting so pissy and throwing a fit because you didn't get to watch the ball game because someone paid more than you to do so is a better example of what you're trying to criticize lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 10:05 PM
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Blue causes the most harm then red then black is the least harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 11:17 AM
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Implement a set of regulations around dating app pricing structures to disincentivize swiping and boosts and other gimmicks that have little to do with matching. I think a relatively easy solution would be to make it so that dating apps can only make money after a relationship has formed. but whatever the solution is the problem is that women would be turned off by their actual league and would try to "find a good partner"(hook up with Chad) on non-dating apps instead but that's better than what…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 10:11 AM
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Humanity was much poorer than it is today for most of it's history and these problems weren't as significant. Even today, the richest countries are the ones where this problem is the worse. A lack of money is not the issue. It's not the third spaces themselves that are missing, it's external factors forcing(or at least incentivizing) people to interact with others even when they don't want to and the biggest enemy of that is stuff like HR culture and feminism not poverty or a physical lack of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 09:58 AM
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There's a study on empathy where men and women score about the same until there's a reward at which point men score roughly the same as before while women suddenly improve. Complaining about transactional stuff is not a game I would play if I was on team women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 04:42 AM
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Hence, kids, regardless of gender, need help to understand to sit down, shut up, and learn instead of flunking out of school. the education system relies too much on "shut up and listen" which is good to build drones and midwits but not so good to build people for the world they are going to live in the future. You're presuposing that the education system is anywhere near as good as it should be when really the education system is failing harder than the boys they are failing. I'd argue they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 04:35 AM
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Why would they put BLM in their bios if they aren't trying to atract other racist people?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 06:33 AM
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Men being more likely to have the most dangerous (for others) forms of mental health issues doesn't make men in general less logical and disciplined than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 03:17 AM
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I've read something that could be interpreted that way by someone emotional not paying attention to important logical details.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 02:43 AM
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Accountability is when you take responsibility for your own actions, not when you pretend like things that aren't your fault actually are your fault to make LilithOfBabylon happy for 2 seconds before she finds another thing to whine about you. Also you generally seem to struggle with the word "more". Just because men are more disciplined than women doesn't mean they will be infinitely disciplined. Also, they see it as beta cuck pussy shit to believe good people are good without expecting a rewar…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 01:12 AM
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I mean, you're doing exactly the same thing I am when it comes to reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 08:41 PM
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They can’t grasp that fiction is not reality. There's people who don't grasp that fiction is not reality...they are a tiny minority. There's people who grasp that fiction is not reality. There's people who grasp that fiction is not reality but it still influences and says something about reality. Most of the people you think don't grasp that fiction is not reality are the latter not the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 08:34 PM
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Women make up almost 50% of gamers If we apply the standards of that nonsense study, 50% of "readers" are men because they have read a sentence in the last year.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 08:26 PM
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The primary reason this is false is because life is a meritocracy. No, it's not. You just attribute merit based on outcome and fail to realize that's circular logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 09:43 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 06:41 AM
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You're underthinking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 12:50 AM
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I'd happilly allow one woman like her to get what she wants for the benefit of making all women like her look slightly worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 12:47 AM
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Western women don’t really need to self-reflect if they decide they are happier without a man. Women are basically building resentment in a population they are heavily dependent upon on the collective level. Men need to adapt to the idea that women are earning a lot of money in the workforce, don’t really need relationships Yes, men need to adapt but they don't have to do so in a way that alligns with what women want. It's like a parent with a kid that has a serious drug problem. The proper way …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 10:29 PM
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The reason a rising tide lifts all ships is that water finds it's own level. Money doesn't naturally trend towards everyone having an equal share it naturally trends towards one person having all the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 09:53 PM
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Need to see examples. If you can't come up with an example of your own then I think it's fair to say that your answer is no, or more specifically that you do not believe these situations exist outside of irrelevent fringe cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:29 PM
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I'll take it one step further than the others: You should judge a coach by their ability to coach not their ability to play. in other words you should look for someone that has success GIVING ADVICE to people like yourself because that's what you're asking of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:18 PM
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and even if they could be convinced of their true level and that they are not 'better' than their male equivalents, they'd still rather just stay single than pair with what they can land. I think that any world that managed to convince women they aren't inherently better than their male equivalent is going to treat single women very poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 03:53 PM
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Dude why can't you let people suffer in peace instead of constantly feeling the need to humble brag about how superior you think you are? You're closer to the grave than highschool start acting like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:25 PM
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pretty much every country is going down the same path, some are just further ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:20 PM
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Aren't you a woman? Both men and women see you as human so human things like that aren't going to really change anything about how they view you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:11 PM
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Because there is no action to be taken that would alleviate or change it. Knowing the rules of a game is useful even if you can't change what those rules are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 04:31 PM
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do you agree or disagree that "It's not guaranteed therefore it's not worth it" is generally a bad argument? Because that was my main point and you seem too focused on wether her conclusion was true to notice just how ridiculously bad her argument was.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 04:34 AM
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but what are you expecting women to do with this knowledge? Informed decisions about their lives? It feels like some sort of neg to try to bring women down with nothing practical to do with it. I understand how that brings women down closer to reality but how the fuck is that not practical?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 04:28 AM
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The shortcoming you’re attempting to point out is entirely dependent on the capacity of the complainant to affect change. No why would it be? The shortcoming is your lack of understanding of why people complain and how that results more consistently in actual meaningful change than people who have (borrowed) power like congressmen doing something. Borrowed power is only as powerful as the willingness of the people it's borrowed from to let you have it. AKA people in positions of power are really…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:35 AM
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Getting an ugly man doesn't guarantee Making good decisions doesn't guarantee good outcomes but you should still make good decisions ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 06:54 PM
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You really think they wouldn't do it? The question is not wether men would have easy sex with super hot women...that's a given, the question is wether men that wanted a relationship would make the same mistakes that women are making and I don't think they would.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 06:25 PM
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As soon as someone complains or attempts to attributes blame, it is obvious that person is more than likely in the latter group. Ok, so an example of complaining and attributing blame would be the justice system. Do you believe the healthy solution would be to not have a justice system? Because I can't come up with a coherent way for you to agree that murder should be illegal. In case you haven't noticed, I'm pointing out where your shortcoming occurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:33 PM
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People focus on the black and white version of rejection when a man asks a woman and she says no. In reality the bulk of the rejection people face happens trough implications. Sometimes it's an extremely obvious "ew" in response to the guy showing up in a room, sometimes it's slightly more subtle in the form of "I wish I could find a guy like you" other times it's just non-verbal cues, etc... Each individual instance is not usually a big enough deal to be worth complaining about. but the sheer b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:05 AM
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It seems like as a man, when you try to identify double standards or call out women being treated unfairly, other men may try to easily dismiss you. I think most people have seen(or at least heard about) those super basic social experiments where some sort of attack happens in public and the average person reacts completely differently depending on the gender of the potential victim. There is a heavy and widespread bias in favor of women when it comes to interpreting wether they deserve to be de…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:48 AM
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Being physically fit, socially competent, and having goals in life are normal things. I think you are failing to differentiate between what you feel should be true and what is true and that makes pretty much everything you argue about when it comes to discussing what is true about average man a waste of everyone's time. Anyways, yes, it is "obvious" that women and society are lying about a lot of this stuff...but you're fundamentally misunderstanding how manipulation works if you think lies only…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:35 AM
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I think it would be better for him if he didn't lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:56 PM
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you have a league for the people you can have sex with and a league for the people you can have a serious relationship with. Do you actually disagree or are you just being difficult because you don't want to admit you were wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:50 PM
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Can you stop being all over the place and just deal with the previous point? I explained how buying things you can't afford doesn't make you or your group rich even if everyone in your group does it, what's your counter to that very basic logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:38 PM
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But if everybody in that same boat ALL are doing it then how is that still not the league Because at the end of the day they are still poor/not in a serious relationship with Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 05:05 PM
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People can live above their means for a while if they keep making short sighted decisions...that doesn't somehow make them rich, they just get to feel like they are richer than they are for a little bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:19 PM
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I've definitely laughed with a guy over him saying that kind of bullshit to his girl and her believing it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:10 PM
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I think consistently favoring words that are more instead of less vague says a lot and not in a good way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:02 PM
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This is basically the same thing as tall people being on average more insecure about their height than short people. Basically everything about their life is heavily tied to this one trait of theirs because they are in the upper percentiles so the thought of losing their massive unearned privilege is incredibly scary to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 01:57 PM
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I can’t even hate on strategy You definitely can, and should, that's how civilizations don't turn to shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 01:21 AM
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But attraction is subjective; different women are drawn to different traits because everyone’s wired a little differently. individual women like less than 20% of men and when you combine all the subsets women like you get the 20%. In other words: the 20% already accounts for subjectivity, you're trying to count it twice. as far as confidence is concerned, I don't agree that it matters as much as you claim but even if it did it wouldn't matter because confidence is not a choice. Confidence can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:39 PM
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it’s time to realize the common denominator is that person. Life has a lot of feedback loops where winning leads to more winning and losing leads to more losing. Society tries a little bit to prevent those feedback loops(especially when it comes to women) but it certainly doesn't do such an amazing job that we can claim even the majority of the people who fail at a lot of things are deserving of it. there are people in similar situations that don’t act like them nor claim to be victims. The "sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:07 PM
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I mean, it's pretty complex to bring up the exception to a pattern as if it disproved the pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:21 AM
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How often do you think that is? I'd say somewhere betwen 2% and 8% are proven false and somewhere between 2% and 90% are false.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:31 PM
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Do you not understand the concept of context???
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 08:06 AM
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men absolutely have an in group bias these days. They don't. Women think they do because they are so biased in favor of women they perceive equal/fair treatment as being biased in favor of men. There's men up and down this very post saying things like, "Why would I condemn my fellow man for a woman I don't know" See my previous point? Not Condemning a man just because a woman said to is not biased in favor of the man, it's simply not biased in favor of the woman. Choosing to trust the person you…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:59 AM
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You're piggybacking off the other commenter, who did say that. Are you talking about me? Because I didn't say that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:52 AM
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when the reality is that false accusations are rare Accusations that are proven true are about as rare as accusations that are proven false. You're probably making the mistake of assuming accusations that aren't proven false must be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:45 AM
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Yeah, men empathize with men and women empathize with women. No. Women have a strong in-group bias. Men have basically none.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 05:59 AM
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they are the first to mobilize against the accused, even resorting to physical aggression. Sure...kinda. It's one of those things where people simultaneously think the most rewarding thing for them to do individually is xyz but they can also recognize that the world would be a better place if that wasn't the case. An extreme example to highlight the logic more clearly would be slavery. A slave might obey their master because that's what the slave has to do if he wants to stay alive/unharmed but …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 05:59 AM
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silent when a man is accused, but vocal when it's determined to be false? Being silent when you don't know if the accusation has weight behind it or not seems like a good thing not a bad thing?? Why are you implying this is equally as bad as contributing to ruining someone's life when you have no idea if they deserve it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:56 AM
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What if a woman values herself and thinks she’d be a great partner even if think she has a flat ass? He's the one that decides if she's worth sleeping with or getting in a relationship with. She doesn't get to decide that for him. Women are not entitled to men's consent just because they have a high opinion of themselves wtf? I think that answers your previous question too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:02 PM
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