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See that is what I wanted but I was told I was not being ambitious enough and some women thought I was a loser for working less hours. I put in my 60+ hour weeks already I am fine with taking a slight pay cut now to work 30-35 instead especially if I am already making good money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:53 AM
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I know I was just responding with extreme sarcasm to show how ridiculous feminists viewpoint is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:09 AM
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But of course that top 10% greatly cares about the other 90% and they are all in it together because they share the trait of being men obviously. Just like the top 10% rich people care about the other 90% of us and would never do anything to make life harder or hurt us.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:04 AM
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Because guys don't have as much of a choice if any in who they date their two options are to be alone or be stuck dating women with problems. Women on the other hand have a wide variety of guys they can choose from they just pick the hottest most vagina tingles causing of the bunch then blame men when they were the ones who picked that dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:02 AM
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Oh and they are all the nicest chill guys I’ve ever met. The same guys PPD women claim should have e no problems because of their great personalities. That is exactly what I am seeing as well. I could understand it is these guys were hideous or assholes, but most of the guys range from normal, to kind, to some of the most chill great dudes to hang out with. How are guys most of which are making six figures or near it in a low cost of living area with average to above average personalities strugg…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:00 AM
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Meanwhile half my white collar male coworkers have not had a relationship in 5+ years and among the blue collar it is around a third who have not had a relationship in 5+ years. It is just women suffering from the apex fallacy yet again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 12:22 AM
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I have so many stories of guys bad behavior from women friends because those guys meet their ridiculous looks threshold. Sure he is a drug addict who stole from me but he is so cute, sure he abuses me but he is to hot, sure he is an unemployed loser who got so day drunk he took a shit on my pillow I don't care he is tall and hot, sure he lives with his mother with no job besides dealing weed occasionally I don't care he is 6'4, etcetera.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 11:49 PM
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In addition to this a good personality can make a large difference for women as long as they hit mens very low looks threshold. Mens personalities on the other hand do not matter even once you meet womens ridiculous looks threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 11:40 PM
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Short women in places like Asia that have barely dealt with tall men before so women from rural areas for example. Hope you are good at learning another language and like Southeast Asia.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 11:22 PM
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oh my god why don't you get it there is a difference between wearing a normal outfit and one that intentionally accentuates it no matter what size boobs you have. Lets drop the boob angle would you agree a woman wearing something with shoulder pads is trying to look like she has bigger shoulders? Of course you would so if you have big shoulders for a woman already if you wore that even though you are already big shouldered you are now trying to make them even bigger. Sure you are always going to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 10:36 PM
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The most misogynistic men I have dealt with were also usually the most successful which confused me so much. If I had tried or said half the shit I saw them do or say I would be in prison or dead because the woman got a bunch of white knights to beat me to death, but because they were attractive women were okay with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 10:32 PM
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Guys looking at your breasts is not harassment especially when you dress to accentuate that feature.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 10:24 PM
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Go after women into weight lifting if you want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 10:18 PM
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Then go live among women that always worked out so well for women in the past when they tried that in the 70s.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 10:13 PM
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I have large boobs and in order for them to not be visible I’d have to wear baggy turtlenecks 24/7. There is a difference between having large boobs and wearing outfits to intentionally show them off. And then you call women crazy for not liking predatory behavior. Yikes. Because you are doing it to show off for specific guys then get angry when other guys look despite it being out in public where everyone can see you. You don't get to pick and choose who sees you and looks at you when you are o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 10:04 PM
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Who thinks glances are sexual harassment? I have heard women complain about many things on that level such as if they are wearing a low cut shirt and guys glance at their breasts. You have large boobs and are intentionally wearing something to show it off, but you are mad guys have wandering eyes and are taking glances? Crazy women and crazy feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 09:03 PM
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I am only attracted to the top of the top of the top of men because of nature STFU SHITLORD! Perfectly acceptable. I have to suffer because of nature? THIS IS UNFAIR FUCKING MEN ARE AT FAULT SOMEHOW!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 09:00 PM
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I am already starting to see it happen with mid 30 year old women I can only imagine how neurotic, insane, and angry they will be 10 years from now. The same women who didn't want me when we were in our 20s now want me because I am rich and they are desperate for a bailout and know this is their absolute last chance to have a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 08:57 PM
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You are fucked in general and especially in this case because fat women will usually refuse to date fat guys and especially in the case of attractive fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 08:52 PM
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You are asking how desire is harassment to the people who think staring or even glances is sexual harassment?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 08:49 PM
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If she was either morbidly obese or a single mother she might find some sucker to give her some of what she wants nowhere near most of it, but having both of these problems means the only guys she will attract will be guys interested in sex. Especially when she had the kid that young doing some math if the kid is 11 and she is 29 now that means she had the kid at around 18.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/06/22 08:47 PM
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Women want partners that don’t repress their feelings until they explode like a toddler and are capable of emotional intimacy. While also refusing to emotionally support their partner because that would be unfair emotional labor even though they expect the guy to emotionally support them. How could this totally fair system ever go wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 08:37 PM
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Especially pornography and video game addictions, a lot of this behaviour has caused men to completely drop out of the dating market and socially isolate themselves in their free time. You are mixing up cause and effect they dropped out because women and frequently society didn't want them economically and they found something else to fulfil their desires. If you have little hope for being as economically successful as your parents and the vast majority of women don't want you because they only …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 08:35 PM
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Also, you need to actually spend that money to get results. Buy nice clothes, get a cool haircut, buy skincare products, go on exclusive vacations, buy a nice car, house, etc. Some men seem to think that women are metal detectors. Women like men that are rich AND generous with their money. If you’re the typical Silicon Valley cuck that makes 800k but won’t buy a $4 coffee, enjoy your life of virginity. This is why I fail I am well off enough that I should be able to retire in 10-15 years in my 4…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 08:28 PM
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How so? These women would still only want top guys and would be saying no to the vast majority of men regardless of how common top guys are. The women here have even admitted given the choice between nothing and dating someone on their level instead of a top guy they would choose the nothing option or even a more negative option that hurts them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 07:59 PM
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You either get accountability and agency or you get to be viewed as children would. You can't be both equals and children and you especially don't get to pick and choose when you want to be equal and when you want to be treated as a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 07:34 AM
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I started with 1 and ended with 3 and women are still mad about it so it feels like no matter what viewpoint a guy has they can't win.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:44 AM
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They are poly instead then? Because that is the only way it works out mathematically.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:07 AM
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Because that 20% isn't going to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:24 AM
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A even if you are 2 points above a woman they will still attempt to monkey branch so you are better off enjoying the hotness because either way they will not be loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:41 AM
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And then they wonder why the guy is only interested in sex and not actually dating them or the guy winds up having issues. Because you are only selecting for looks and a guy that far above you is not going to seriously date you or is going to have problems otherwise, he would be dating on his level.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:45 AM
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I think a large part of this is that I live in a city with I believe a 5/3 ratio of women to men in my area; What area is this? I should move there where I live it is more like 5/3 ratio of men to women in the 25-35 age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:08 AM
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within seconds. Most women I have seen spend less than 2 second on a profile it all comes down to your first photo because lord knows they don't read anything else and only sometimes look at the second photo. Some of these women it borders on milliseconds which I don't think my mind could even register the picture and take it in that fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:06 AM
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Depends on which part you are talking about. As an example I already don't take public transit because I have a car so I would not get groped or harassed on there because I am not taking it. As another one I rarely ever drink or party and I trust my male friends. If you have an angle you want my opinion on just ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:33 AM
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Bikinis are pretty inherently sexual to me and one pieces are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:49 PM
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Walking behind a stranger and saying he is ugly and should kill himself is not abuse? Taking advantages of someones kindness costing them hundreds of dollars or days of their time and then never repaying the favor is not abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:54 PM
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Women who treat them like they are either invisible or monsters? You would turn to anger if women said nasty things about you even if you were not interacting with them or said things like "ewww" if you did try and interact with them. You would really learn to hate them if they abused your kindness and kept trying to get things out of you and never treated you well either despite you helping them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:09 PM
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As a guy unless you are an 8+ for looks you are better off not bothering and even if you are considered attractive you will have more luck in real life for less effort. The only advantage is you can be somewhat passive and put low investment in it to maybe get some interest from a woman once or maybe twice a month depending on your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:06 PM
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The tinder Chad fishing experiments say you are wrong about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:03 PM
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Loneliness is a problem in our culture but if you are violent, bitter and sexist I’m not going to feel like anyone should make themselves be around you. Your mindset is guys should be hurt but then can't turn angry and bitter towards their abusers? If you don't want them to be that way stop hurting them! There is no advantage to rape. But tons of other advantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:01 PM
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Because we get traumatized in other ways such as extreme loneliness and being invisible without any of the upsides women experience. At least your option gives advantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 08:26 PM
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Vast majority of women aren’t getting unsolicited favours from men on the regular Yes they are when I dropped my women friends who kept abusing me for favors within a month they found new guys to abuse for favors.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 08:24 PM
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Not being able to sit alone in a restaurant or cafe without some non attractive man or woman wanting to sit with you and getting aggressive if you say no I have never heard of that happening where I live. Maybe guys here are less aggressive. Being groped against your will in the subway or some other crowded place by somebody stronger than you which you dislike I drive, rarely go to crowded places, and do weight lifting so chances are I would be on their level. The size of your penis, or anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 08:23 PM
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Not my type but 8-9.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 08:18 PM
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yikes the face is only somewhat below average but those teeth combined with the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 07:46 PM
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I want to know where they live because they keep saying the opposite is true attractive women are stuck dating average looking guys. Is their that much of a difference in dating between where I live in the Midwest and the East coast? Is it class based because most of them seem to be middle upper class? Or is it just the apex fallacy once again.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 07:44 PM
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Hell yes I would trade that most of the downsides are easy to avoid and then it brings so many insane advantages of special treatment and never feeling lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 07:36 PM
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I knew a couple guys studying to become a doctor in my cheap ghetto apartment complex them and the other future engineers like me got completely ignored or in my case mostly ignored by the local lower class women who went for the gangsters living with their mother and by the middle class women attending university in favor of guys like douchey frat bros. Now the same middle class women who ignored guys like me in favor of getting gangbanged by the hockey team thinks because we are rich and the h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:05 AM
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To an extent I think the bigger problem is how gender segregated hobbies and communities tend to be which means my experiences and socialization is going to be vastly different from a woman who has different hobbies and communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 04:17 AM
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Did that and never again.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:44 AM
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No thank you I am 6'2, 200 pounds, some muscle, six figure income in a low cost of living area, and my women friends say I would be a catch. You know who shows me interest? Gold diggers, crazies, and absolute bottom of the barrel women such as the one who weighed 300 pounds, lived with her parents in a trailer, and smelled like cigarettes. I would rather be alone than date women like that. I don't expect to date a model I just want someone who brings something to the table on my level.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:35 AM
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You’re mocking women who are manipulated into being used for sex ? Really mature. That’s not even correct seeing as all men do that not just the ones that are “far above” them How are they manipulated?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:30 AM
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The easiest way to understand what is happening is if you continue the metaphors it is like the majority of employers are demanding people who went to an Ivy League university even though they themselves are offering minimum wage no amount of fixing up your resume will make up for the fact you went to a state university. Even if you did go to an Ivy League university you would refuse to work for minimum wage so we have nobody to blame but entitled employers not people who might have some flaws i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:28 AM
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But like I said before they aren’t being “too picky” if they’re having success on the app. They are not though instead they are getting pumped and dumped because they keep selecting guys so far above them that those guys are only interested in fucking them not actually dating them. One more thing I think needs to change is that men need to put much more effort into their profiles because from what I’ve seen most of them are low quality That I think is more gender neutral both sides are awful at …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:25 AM
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To be fair to them this is more like they are saying you should customize your resume more for each job and focus more on interview prep instead of applying to more jobs overall. It doesn't work that way in dating, but that is what they are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:16 AM
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I think a lot of this bad behavior is a third of women admit to going on a date for free food even though they were not interested in the guy https://www.premiumtimesng.com/entertainment/naija-fashion/336606-foodie-call-a-third-of-women-went-on-a-date-because-of-free-food-study.html
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:09 AM
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Men will swipe right on every women they see then send them all the same message. Which they do because women are so overly selective. If you got a response from 1 out of every 50 women you messaged/swiped yes on would you take the strategy of becoming more selective which lowers the amount of women you can talk to or increase the total amount of women you can talk to by saying yes to everyone? Even if it cuts your response rate in half doubling it to 1 in 100 but you get to talk to three times …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:07 AM
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I don't know how you can say women are not being too picky if they are only saying yes to 5-14% of guys (depending on the source of data you use). The reason guys swipe yes on everyone is because women are so picky they are the ones to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 02:45 AM
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It doesn't even end at the matches. It's the conversations too. Getting single words and emojis as replies. Waiting hours just to get those basic responses. It doesn't end on the app either during the date talking to some women makes me feel like I am trying to torture and interrogate them because they are so nonresponsive giving one word replies and acting like they are barely interested. Some of them even pulled out their phones during the date repeatedly or got a bitchy attitude so now if tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 02:44 AM
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My women friends have asked me questions like why are you single you have a good job and are a nice guy who would make a great husband so I tell them to take over my online dating profile for a couple days or a week and they think oh fun I get to help a friend and maybe experience what it is like on the other side. So far none have lasted beyond 24-48 hours and they wind up depressed, angry, and wondering if their phone or the app is broken. None of them will admit the problem is women being too…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 02:17 AM
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Either one including a little below average but the boobs bring her up to a 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:27 AM
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and PPD women severely underestimate how many taken women the average man gets introduced to . Ain't that the truth. If I get introduced to a woman by a friend especially a woman friend I can all but guarantee the new woman is married or is single for a reason with massive problems. If I got introduced to a single woman who didn't have problems at this point I would be suspicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 11:08 PM
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What I see outside confirms my thoughts most couples the dude is better looking than the woman and one of the common norms is she is 40-50 pounds overweight and he is average weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 11:04 PM
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I can learn to love a body to an extent, but I can't learn to love a personality. That is why I would rather date a 5/10 with a feature I like such as nice boobs with a good personality over a 7/10 with a shitty personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 11:02 PM
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If different social groups acting differently is the definition of parallel universe then we do live in a number of parallel universes, sure. While that is possible the differences being this extreme makes me wonder about things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 09:37 PM
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I am the opposite I have more energy in the summer, but I am much hornier in the winter because all I want to do is be in bed with lots of blankets and having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 09:10 PM
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Not many people escape poverty like I did to earn anywhere near as much money as I do because of how bad social mobility is in America so I think that would actually it harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 09:08 PM
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The apex fallacy with women is at an unbelievable level.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 09:05 PM
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not fighting over 3 chubby women in a hot, overcrowded venue. Especially when those 3 women have egos even bigger than their waistline and think they are better than the vast majority of guys available.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 09:05 PM
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https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Gil_Gunderson
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 04:23 AM
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They banned me for 30 days because I told them to step down after they openly admitted to abusing their mod powers but unfortunately it is not that simple. The other mods did nothing about this either so not like I can just toss them all on ignore either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 04:05 AM
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I don't understand how they expected kids to afford that even now looking back. 90 dollars in the mid to late 90s was a lot of damn money. Between growing up lower class back then and inflation I get sticker shock now so often thank god my hobbies are cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 01:55 AM
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5-6 he is super tall but his face just does not work in most of those photos. Really a shame if he had an even slightly better face he could slay.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 01:31 AM
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Mine was $100 and I was making like $8 or $9 an hour at the time I was not willing to work 10+ hours before taxes to go interact with people I didn't want to interact with when it was free during a normal school day. I think instead I either worked that night, played video games, or maybe it was a DND night with my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 01:28 AM
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One of them yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 01:15 AM
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So if you met a woman who matches your looks and income you should be fine. I don't care about her income that much I care about things like looks, personality, how she treats me, and if I enjoy spending time with her. Most of the girlies I know in their 30s are good looking fun and and don’t even have kids You must be in a smaller city Correct couple hundred thousand people surrounded by much smaller cities and towns. If I eliminate single mothers, morbidly obese, and obvious drug addicts it el…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:11 PM
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If the personality is good enough I would be fine with that, but so far it has not been even close to good enough. Having a kid subtracts at least 3 points from your overall score so you need to bring a lot to compensate for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:07 PM
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Whatever you say npc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:05 PM
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I don't care as long as they are not expecting me to provide some luxury lifestyle. I know I will have to compensate for their lower income, but I am not taking them on multiple vacations to Europe every year type deal. If they are fine with living a middle class lifestyle which I help provide for then I don't mind them working those kinds of jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:01 PM
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5 maybe 6 skinny, average face, older but has kept okay looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:59 PM
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especially when their shallowness causes them to date shitty people. You are just now finding the FDS subreddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:58 PM
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Is this within the same age category? In my experience marriage tends to correlate with age and as you get older it is harder to keep the pounds off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:58 PM
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Looks and income are the main two.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:56 PM
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I am a dude and I would say 4 if I am being generous with 3 being more accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:01 PM
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Which is yet another reason I am single in my 30s. Unless they bring something massive to compensate for having a kid such as being way above my looks or one of the best loving personalities I have ever dealt with then I am not interested. I did not work this hard to bring my stats up only to date a single mother who is at my level of looks or below. I should not be punished for someone elses mistakes when I worked so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:57 PM
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Even on my best days I would not consider myself a 5 for looks if I disregard my height. I know without my height I am a 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:53 PM
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I know dozens of good looking single women. Most of 'em single mothers who are trapped - they want to looksmatch, but their kids have killed that off. I would date a single mother who was significantly above my looks as compensation for tolerating them having a kid even with all the money and responsibility that goes with it, but as you said they want their looksmatch still even though they have a massive problem of having a kid. The thought of dating a single mother on my level or below it is l…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:43 PM
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Immediate thought is white, but now I am wondering if it is a trick question and it is black because of the music.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:44 PM
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If I lived in the same smaller cities or tiny cities my family insisted in living in I never would have gone above 12 dollars an hour which can't even afford rent in the same town. As it is I am still taking an estimated $40,000 paycut to live within driving distance of them now instead of moving to California.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:40 PM
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One of the biggest problems you face as a guy in dating is finding which women are available or not. Wedding rings help with that. Because while yes even trying to get single women is a big hassle it seems like most women are not single. Maybe a third to a quarter are single in my age group of 30 year olds and that third is single for a reason. Somehow among men though it is more like 2/3rds of men I know are single in the same age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:34 PM
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I can't believe women in this subreddit tell me one thing and that people like you are wrong, but you are so damn adamant about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:14 PM
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I can't believe Amber Heard is who they are choosing to go with and believe. Sure some of the scenarios they are talking about happen with mutual abuse and the like, but this is so not that category that it really proves how strong and insane the women are wonderful effect is/how massive of an in group preference women have for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:10 PM
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You know what’s weird about these fat models? They always somehow find the genetic outliers who is 100lb overweight but only from the neck down, or who is a size 24 but somehow still has an hourglass shape. The model in that someone previously told me was 240 pounds which really says to me she is a genetic freak of nature if she weighs that much and still looks that good.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:07 PM
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I dealt with the occasional greatest generation person like that, but boomers it practically feels like a norm being a miserable angry sack of shit even though most of them are well off and secure in life. I even see it in my own mother which is one of the reasons she demands to live in a rural area she can't stand being around other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:05 PM
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I don't understand why some men get so offended by the idea of women only socializing with women. Because you women will destroy or invade any males only social spaces and also not understand why guys are angry about how hard it is to find a mate while you do anything to avoid being around men while also fucking telling guys to up their social game. How the fuck can you tell someone to up their social game, but then intentionally make it much harder and get angry when they are trying to hit on y…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 06:57 PM
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Women want women's only groups because they don't want to deal with men constantly trying to fuck them Answer me this would that happen if those guys had girlfriends? Of course not. Men are the ones who hate female friendship when it doesn't lead to sex so women are going their own way and choosing to only socialize with women. Because most women make terrible friends and require vastly more effort on the guys parts especially when compared to a guy guy friendship. I have had to drop about half …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 06:55 PM
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That’s funny, I was thinking it must be less common among the nerdy crowd, since that’s who I hang out with. Lol. Like I have multiple married friends who met in our video game guild, and friends first… Also I know a lot of couples who became friends first at work (software engineering). That is a lot of my life as well, but me and my male friends have had exact opposite experiences. Out of curiosity since we are on the topic what is the gender ratio at your work? Here in the Midwest the compani…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 06:45 AM
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’m amazed by men’s reluctance to try new things other than their 3 safe hobbies to meet people How much free time do you have that you can juggle 4+ hobbies? Between reading, exercising, computer games, and reading sites like this I already am at my max even though I am only working 30-35 hours a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 06:18 AM
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so that’s why I don’t believe friend zone is a thing for everyone. I don't think it is a thing for everyone, but I do think it is surprisingly common especially among the more nerdy crowd which is obviously who I spend time with the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 06:16 AM
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I looked into book clubs because that is one of my hobbies locally either through meetups or the library but strangely they seem to be around 80% men which made no sense to me given the gender stereotypes about book clubs. I don't understand it when I go to the library the gender ratio seems pretty even among patrons are all the women married or what is happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 06:05 AM
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My scenario would be like after playing the game with her and becoming friendly, you invite her to a party you are throwing. Then later she invites you to one of her parties. Then you invite her to a music festival you are going to with your friends. Then during one time hanging out together in one of these social things you do together, you ask her to dinner. Strange in my experience if you treat it like that is almost guaranteed to put you in the friend zone or more rarely someone else will be…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 05:59 AM
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I notice the more FDS crowd tends to stay away from the daily thread for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 05:52 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/v2wpiu/lack_of_relevant_social_circles_is_bad_heres_the/iav64js/ one recent example.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 05:32 AM
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an example https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/v2wpiu/lack_of_relevant_social_circles_is_bad_heres_the/iav64js/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 05:32 AM
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I just find it so confusing how one woman will say something like what you are saying, but then another will be very angry about it and say it is mens fault somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 05:13 AM
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Not what women in other threads currently and previously have acted like hence my confusion on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 05:09 AM
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In my experience that massively increases the chances of friend zoning and that is not the argument they seem to make the argument is more that guys should not hit on women during these activities which makes no sense to me if they are also saying to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 05:07 AM
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Part of me wishes that sort of thing was a bit less shamed upon because I understand people make dumb decisions and a horny brain, but on the other hand as a public figure it is kind of to be expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 05:00 AM
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Women in this subreddit say guys should focus on the social game if they want to have better success in dating, but also should not hit on women when doing social activities with women like a hobby. How does that work?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:57 AM
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Because it isn't shitty behavior usually and it will stop once women themselves stop being shitty? Hitting on someone is not shitty behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:34 AM
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I sometimes wonder what it would be like to go through life like them where nothing no matter how good it was is good enough for them especially long term. It is just such a different mindset from how I am I am happy driving an older car and with cheap hobbies even though I now have money to buy fancier things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 03:45 AM
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Even as someone who is fine with some chunk to a moderate amount I am surprised at the amount of competition and quality of guys moderately fat women can get if they are even middle of the road attractive. That is why I am so confused when fat women here complain about how hard dating is for them when it isn't for most of the fat women I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 03:24 AM
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That is when you wind up old, alone, miserable and usually either surrounded by wine bottles or cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 03:19 AM
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bottom Good word play.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:44 AM
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Including giant their own zip code asses if the last video he linked is to believed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:44 AM
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and they would stop getting so much attention if women started no longer acting like they only want womens spaces and refusing to be around men. You know how you normalize something? Make it more normal for it to happen. If a guy is married he is not going to hit on the woman in his DND group especially if his wife is also playing, but if he is a single lonely guy chances are he will especially if she is the first woman who has shown interest in his hobby in the past three years so it makes him …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:42 AM
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How else would you treat the mental illness? Leave it untreated so it just festers and gets worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:38 AM
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I have said it before, but you are so lucky to have the preferences you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:37 AM
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Because there are not enough women. You are blaming men for something women caused with their collective decisions. If women stopped behaving the way they do it would obviously be less of a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:36 AM
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If you want an example a cousin of mine starting to become involved in tech and guys being extremely friendly and giving her their work emails so they could answer any questions she had because they wanted to make things easier for a woman getting started. She was already married and they never said anything bad to her so it is not like you are thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:35 AM
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You think you are on the level of a balding misogynistic man child? That sounds like you problem. You should follow the advice women keep snidely giving men and improve yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:33 AM
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Because you not being attracted is a mental illness problem so you realize you are ill and not the hot queen you think you are and go on to have a normal happy life dating an average life instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:24 AM
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Not the experience of the women I know if anything they said they experienced the opposite of too much kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:22 AM
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I still disagree most guys I know even non nerds would love to be able to share a hobby with a partner like going deer hunting together or fixing an old car together.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:13 AM
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Dating your equal is being a prostitute?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:12 AM
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Dedicated troll is dedicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:08 AM
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Not the point the point is if given the choice you would make that decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:05 AM
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And if I can't keep fucking Chad then having a phone is useless anyway. Now I am sure this is just a somewhat dedicated troll account. Either that or I was not exaggerating with the women choosing nuclear winter over having to date someone on their level.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:03 AM
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You don't have to share hobbies with objects Are you serious? I don't know how many guys I have known who wanted to game with the partner whether it was video games or something like Magic the Gathering.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:01 AM
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And i saw another comment here about atomized socialization, very small, closed off friends groups, are a big gripe with todays men struggling, because having the social preselection is how most men got results in the past, and nowadays the girl isn't even present in these social gatherings, she just uses OLD when horny or wanting company and doesn't bother with going out. Part of this is women seem to only be interested in social and group activities that are 80-90% women and if their is an equ…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 01:59 AM
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I am not sure what is worse when they ignore you for their phone, it is like talking to a child or something that only gives one word answers, or the ones with the I am superior to you dance monkey dance attitude. I don't understand how hard it is to have a basic conversation with someone I am a nerd but somehow I can manage it why can't women? How do they function in the work place if they barely talk or treat everyone under them badly? I don't understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 01:55 AM
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Normal but the muscles help give it more size to make it look big.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 01:52 AM
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Let me get this right you would give up plumbing, electricity, your phone, and lots of other technology if it means you don't have to date a guy on your level? I can't tell if this one is a joke or not. I guess you could just go live in California they got plenty of homeless shitting on the streets already.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 01:51 AM
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Also leaving dates mid lunch saves time and nerves. I have gotten so sick of womens bad behavior that now if they pull out their phone more than once or start to act like a bitch I just leave by tossing a 20 or two on the table to cover my portion then walk out. How shit are women if they can't be tolerable enough to share a meal with that I already paid for and have a basic conversation with?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 01:36 AM
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It feels like if I eliminate morbidly obese women, obvious drug users, and single mothers it eliminates like half of the dating pool. Which means that is exactly how I feel as well as well. I didn't work this hard to get in shape and become rich to settle down with single moms and former sluts with a N count of 20+. Why would I invest even more time and money into something that didn't work the first time especially when it is much more effort to go beyond this level? And for what to date women …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 01:32 AM
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Even though she demanded he work those hours to make that money in the first place because she wanted the rich lifestyle that is just part of the patriarchy obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:46 AM
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Modern women are just not loyal they will cheat if anything even vaguely better comes along no matter how much and how many years of loyalty and work you have put into them and their lives. Barely Moral had the right idea as much as it pains me to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:45 AM
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Over time I had challenged myself and improved in most of the areas and currently I am happy with myself and my balance of life. That is how I am as well I did that tons already in my 20s now is the time for relaxing and maintaining. I lost a lot of weight and worked hard to get a good high paying job and I do not want more 60+ hour work weeks and hours in the gym on top of that I want 30-35 hours a week easier work and a basic daily jog in the morning with the occasional weight lifting for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:43 AM
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I already challenged and worked on myself I don't need to go above and beyond so the first especially because I really want to feel accepted and loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:41 AM
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That unfortunately has not stopped a lot of guys and some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:40 AM
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Why else would they cheat on their rich lawyer husband with their tennis coach?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:33 AM
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Working hard and making good money is a great achievement but it doesn’t make you more physically attractive Women including when I was in my 20s told me if I wanted a good wife I should work hard and get a good high paying job so if they refuse to play ball now they lied to me previously they can't have it both ways. I was told oh looks don't matter just be a good kind guy and have a good secure job so that is what I concentrated on and now women tell me what the fuck you thought looks don't ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:46 PM
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Yea, it’s funny. “Don’t shit where you eat” + “don’t do OLD” + “don’t cold approach” kind of takes away most of your options. You forgot women also complain about guys who try and fuck their friends or join group or hobby activities to find women. This means the problem is women not men as usual and it is primarily about how hot the guy is not the location or context.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:05 PM
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I was going off IMDB.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:35 PM
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Why guys think height is quite literally all is beyond me. Not every last woman with a FF cup is automatically hot, even if it adds to attraction. This could be a massive separate discussion on its own I find that men can hyper focus on one trait even if the rest is average or below average but women want more of a total package thing happening. Most guys I know if the woman has giant boobs but her face is average they would be over the moon happy, but women if the guy is 6'4 but average in all …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:30 PM
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No, material conditions are worsening for the majority of people regardless of how high GDP or the S&P 500 appear to be on paper. The rich get richer and the rest of us get worse and worse qualities of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:27 PM
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Medical workers are incredibly bad about following their own advice when it comes to healthy habits such as not smoking and eating healthy foods.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:26 PM
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I am saying I think this is not the best person for them to choose to defend or use to make their case about this happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:11 PM
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This is the one they are deciding to stand for and the hill they are choosing to die on? Pick your battles better sometimes you might be right, but not this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:09 PM
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Pete davidson Average looking face but also really tall at 6'3. 5-7 depending on how much the person cares about height.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:07 PM
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Secretary or massage therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:32 PM
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I wonder if this is location dependent due to women leaving places like where I live especially the hot women for the coasts which would make sense as well because most of the women posters in this subreddit live on the coasts especially the East coast.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:14 PM
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In the past 5 years among friends, family, coworkers, and people I even vaguely knew I knew one couple where the woman was significantly hotter than the man. He was around a 5-6 and she was practically model level of hot and blonde. The rest of the time it was either equal or the dude was above her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:09 PM
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Where do you live that 14 out of 20 men is overweight/obese? I live in the Midwest which has way more fat people and among men aged 20-30 it is still only about 3 in 10 guys to 4 in 10 guys I see that is even somewhat fat. Is this the South? I know that place has a reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:07 PM
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If every lady spent time at the gym, guys would have some level of attraction to 90% of them Or just put down the fork. I know this is primarily because modern eating habits have changed over the past 20 years leading to middle aged women aging like milk when middle aged women of the previous generation aged much better due to not eating and drinking garbage like Starbucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:04 PM
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I make around 150k-160k a year depending on bonuses and the like in a low cost of living area and some women still act like I would be lucky to date someone below my own looks level. In an area where a house is 200k that is all it gets me? A woman below my looks level? I worked that hard for so many years to date someone below me? Then they wonder why I am angry. Most of these bitches are making 40k to 50k and are acting like it is not enough to date someone decent looking when I make three time…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:49 PM
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Happiness tends to be inversely correlated based on most of the smart people I knew and all the dumb but happy people I knew. Life success it is a moderate help.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:35 PM
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The feeling of helplessness because you can't do anything to help is so bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:21 AM
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Reminds me of someone I wonder who.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:01 AM
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She isn't even that bad the problem seems to be she just wants the top which she obviously can't get. Back in high school most of the guys I knew would have been willing to take her to prom or date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:43 AM
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Sex itself does not feel even remotely good enough to justify the crazy lengths that men go to with PUA, TRP and looksmaxxing. You are thinking women and men have similar libidos and the same physical pleasure during sex. We know men have higher libidos due to testosterone. We also know men orgasm more often and from what I remember report sex as more pleasurable than women despite women having stronger orgasms and more nerve endings in places like the clit. Hell, fapping accomplishes pretty muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:40 AM
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Crazy women are usually better at sex and during the initial parts or high parts of the relationship make a guy feel wanted and loved unlike most women who don't make their partner feel that way. My crazy ex I could give up the sex, but I have never had a woman make me feel as desired, loved, and wanted like she did most women don't even fucking try in my experience which is the sad part. At least with sex I can hump and enjoy myself even if she is bad at sex and starfishes, but there is no repl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 04:46 AM
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And women on average have less hair growth than this. https://imgur.com/a/csziWhP they have the same beard just in different locations.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 01:27 AM
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Gah without that much hair she would be attractive which makes it worse it is like someone took a tasty milkshake and then blended a bunch of dead bugs into it ruining it. I don't mind some hair and understand things will get more lax during the winter, but that amount is way too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 01:12 AM
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While I physically need food to survive, I don’t need sex or relationships. For a lot of guys relationships and sex are right up there with shelter in a basic hierarchy of needs it is that important to them and not having it destroys them. This obviously will vary though different people it is less of a need. I am not even close to one of these guys and it still hurts my brain and soul not having it. There’s nothing wrong with being upset or angry but that doesn’t justify taking it out on other …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 12:36 AM
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I'm not, no. I wasn't a jerk to the clerk at the store when I couldn't afford food. That analogy doesn't work they are more of being a jerk to the store owner because you don't usually see them being a jerk to non women for example they are just doing it to the people determining the price which is women. Even if they are a jerk they are kind of right to be that way it is normal and natural to be upset and angry if your life sucks especially if you see someone elses life is going great and they …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 12:16 AM
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Would it be more appropriate for the girl to go shirtless with some trunks? I think so because at that point putting a bikini top on them makes it feel creepily sexualized which is just so yuck but at that age them going shirtless is less sexualized and less disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 12:06 AM
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I can be sympathetic to people who aren’t assholes. It’s okay to be annoyed. It’s okay to be frustrated. It’s okay to feel like the world isn’t fair and like things suck and like you’re just generally in a bad position. That’s valid. What isn’t okay is being a jerk to other people about it. But if things are not changing then why would you not be a jerk to people and want to burn the system down? You are blaming them for actively fighting back when they are being victimized.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 12:00 AM
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I don't care about how she looks or what she wears like that, but who puts a kid that young in a two piece?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 11:40 PM
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There's no such thing as people who are 5/10 attractive, 6/10 attractive etc. Ridiculous you can score people on categories easily. Old system was worse for women. Oh yes having a loving partner who provides for you and cares about you is oh so much worse than being able to get random hookups and getting pumped and dumped that is why I had dozens of women crying on my couch about having the first instead of the second no wait it was always the second. A system in which all women and some men are…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 09:01 PM
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So your solution is making women sleep with men they don't find attractive? My solution is women should stop being so picky and find their equal attractive and secondly stop talking about how good it is to be a free love slut if guys don't get to participate like women do. If you don't find your equal attractive and only find 5% of men attractive enough for you then their is something mentally wrong with you. Either everyone gets to participate or we are better off with the old dating and relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:33 PM
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Go for it from my unmarried perspective in a marriage women hold all the cards because they know they will get lots of advantages in the divorce which means they will get money out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:31 PM
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You are literally saying that women should give away sex like free gift cards. I am saying if women give it out to 100 guys but then say no to 1 guy that 1 guy is going to feel like shit because she is saying he is worse than those 100 guys. I am saying it was not free love for men it was just an excuse for women to be sluts with the top guys and most average guys were better off in the old dating norms. Lastly and most importantly I am saying women have massive advantages in dating, sex, and re…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:29 PM
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Not much I already knew there was a lot of crazy weird guys who are single for a reason or absolute morons that I am surprised can function in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:27 PM
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Once women are married they know they have secured the bag and no longer have to put in effort so their sex game drops and their is nothing the dude can do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:25 PM
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My opinion of women if anything was not negative enough? Which is really sad if I came here trying to improve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:23 PM
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What advantage? If you need an orgasm, just go jack off. What advantage? Is this a joke? Women can get laid faster than I can get Chinese food delivered. Guys on the other hand for most of them it is a herculean struggle because women are so god damn picky and instead just share the top guys instead of it actually being the free love idea. With such a low opinion of women you wouldn't be getting any benefits from sex anyway because the emotional component would be flying right over your head. Gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:21 PM
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My theory was that a high sex drive is uncommon in women, but it is more common in people with mental illness which frequently stems from things like childhood sexual abuse so the chances of a woman being high drive without it are lower than someone who has problems. I don't miss the crazy my ex had, but it was still the best sex I have ever had because she was adventurous, wanted to please, actually liked my body, and was willing to communicate about what she liked and disliked.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:18 PM
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That some people get more advantages in and refuse to let others participate in? It would be one thing if it was free love everyone gets laid if they want it, but that isn't reality the reality is only that for women but for men because women are so incredibly selective most men are worse off than if they had been born in the 1940s.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:14 PM
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You think it is fine in a game of poker one side is dealt 20 cards and the other gets 4 if they are lucky and should not be jealous about that? Because that is basically what is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 07:54 PM
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Covid destroyed my social life as well before I would be out interacting with friends a couple nights a week but now friends being iffy about interacting that often and remote work it means I have way too much free time to do things like post here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 07:52 PM
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Her advice to me, however, was that I should get involved with more feminist women as they (1) are open to different male body types (I am not very tall for example), That got a laugh out of me half the feminists I have dealt with were super gung-ho about it right up until it came to the kind of guy they would date or their expectations out of him then they wanted the tall financial provider type who should fit all the male masculine gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 07:48 PM
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You are actually surprised? Weird I thought with how often I heard that comment from women they would know other women are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 07:40 PM
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I was told two things by women including when I was in my 20s by women my own age appearance doesn't matter women don't care about looks they are about personality and how you treat them. I was also told if I wanted a wife I should work hard and get a good high paying job and treat her nicely. The fact I am here should be testament enough to how well those two pieces of advice from women worked, but if you want more details I kept having women choose good looking guys over me that were obvious f…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 07:39 PM
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Why are the hot ones who love sex always stab you because they dreamed you cheated levels of crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 07:28 PM
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Parts of the midwest have lots of houses like that, but those places are either really rural or have no jobs. My parents rural house if they tried to sell it without the attached land would only go for about $120,000.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 07:27 PM
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I had some relatives get it, but luckily it was only the younger ones not the older ones who probably would not have survived it. Hope your kid is okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:38 AM
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That is the kind of music an 80 year old woman would listen to because it reminds her of her youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 03:40 AM
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https://imgur.com/a/T1UIu8u
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 02:28 AM
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I didn't know it was a joke and first and was very confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 02:25 AM
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I know people here including myself tend to be pretty one note, but this is pretty extreme. Still not as bad as the crazy virgin guy from a couple weeks ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 01:50 AM
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It doesn't take much just be a 6 in looks with one nice feature like bigger boobs or a pretty face and have an above average personality because there are thousands of lonely as fuck guys with money desperate for attention and social interaction with women. So many simps it isn't even a joke anymore. The only real hard part is tolerating the guys from what I can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 01:18 AM
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For me personally just idle distractions that bring me small amount of happiness and wasting time until I die of old age.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 01:11 AM
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Anything to avoid admitting women are too picky because it goes against the women are wonderful effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:23 AM
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From what I have seen you won't find it in work, won't find it in friends, won't find it in volunteering, won't find it in your pets so there is no solution for the people who wanted that but didn't get it besides distractions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:20 AM
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Obviously is the first word that comes to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:18 AM
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I agree I lost 100 pounds, put on muscle, got a good job paying over six figures, was already fairly socially active at least pre covid but somehow all that did was increase the quantity of women interested in me not the quality and most of these women I would not touch with someone elses dick. I did not work so hard over the past 10 years improving to date some woman who weighs 300 pounds and smells like cigarettes or a racist woman who drops the N word on the first date nonchalantly. The women…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:14 AM
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I don't need it every time or even most of the time but if we are having sex one out of every ten times we cuddle and talk I am not interested because that is just too much frustration. I love cuddling, but it is just so frustrating not getting any during it most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:10 AM
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I wanted the first in my 20s but women either didn't want me or mistreated me, but now that I am rich in my 30s they expect me to give them all my money and some kids funny how that works. Why should I reward your previous bad behavior and bail you out especially now that I have no energy to raise a kid? It isn't my fault your fucking moron ass waited so god damn long.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:08 AM
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Not from what I can tell in my life as a mid 30 year old guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:06 AM
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Not at all my type but even I can admit she is a 9 ignoring how filtered and photoshopped most of the pictures are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 08:07 PM
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Fat, middle aged, a long list of requirements such as height, income, no pets, wants kids, and the exact same religious and political beliefs means even if she was fat and middle aged her chances of finding a guy would be in the millions. Lets use some actual numbers so we can estimate how rare what she wants is 6 feet minimum means 14% of men https://dqydj.com/height-percentile-calculator-for-men-and-women/ 6 figure minimum means about 16% of men https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/ …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/05/22 07:46 PM
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I legit think they are blind to the fact how much their settling hurts men. I don't know how much of it is blindness I prefer to think of it as subconscious where they lash out and treat their partner badly because they think he is good enough even though he is a 5 and they are a 3 because they think they deserve an 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:57 AM
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I used to think it depended on age, but some of the younger people at work are better about phone usage and other my aged ones are terrible about it. I do notice women are way worse about it in general though but I am likely biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:35 AM
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I wish women understood this better one text a day max when I am at work unless it is an emergency. I got work I have to do and I don't want my concentration or train of thought broken my ability to work is what is providing a roof over our heads so it is important I work hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:30 AM
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Men settle, but don't take it out on their partner unlike women in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:08 AM
1

In the pictures looks like she is 13-14 so she is a 0 for me gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:42 PM
1

Most of the women around my age who are interested in me are so bad I would not touch them with someone elses dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:24 PM
1

I should get one of those with how bad the mods are here but it feels dumb to spend a couple dollars every month just to comment here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:23 PM
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Because the guys that are shorter than them are not rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:22 PM
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The feeling of relief and finally being able to concentrate on other things is so much better than the laser like focus before that. It takes so much god damn willpower to stop if she says no in the middle of even the lead up to it that it isn't even funny. Somehow I had two women tell me no so I stopped and then later told me I should have tried harder. Do you have any idea how hard that is to suppress? and I don't want to go to prison just because your fucking dumbass wants to play hard to get…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:19 PM
1

Or when they really like a meme you send.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:45 AM
2

Is this another "kill all men" where feminists say it and then wonder why people misunderstand what they say? Or other examples like that from other groups?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:14 AM
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You actually think we don't have a large faction of feminists that pushed ideas like people such as Amber should be believed because she is a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:09 AM
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So what exactly do you want 4th wave feminists to do? Stop pushing the idea of believe all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:00 AM
2

Would this help? https://imgur.com/a/bsTpBEo
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 03:11 AM
1

For them it was the opposite it was like someone was goofing off and took a plastic glove and blew too much air into it to make a funny shape. I assume because you work hard that is why yours are that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 03:03 AM
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So it isn't just when red pill posts threads that women respond with this and don't actually argue I guess I was wrong and both sides are guilty of it including men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:20 AM
2

I agree even the easier saturated degree holders I see are making 35k-40k a year if they have the job and this is a lower cost of living area so I assume in higher cost of living areas where women tend to hyper concentrate 50k for the same job is more normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:10 AM
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Most people don't care about that and don't think about what goes into their daily life such as the engineering for the vehicle they drive every morning or their phone they just take it for granted so that and it being associated with nerds is why it is low status in most peoples eyes especially women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:08 AM
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Not blaming her at all, but I am curious why the sex is painful if his dick was small did he skip foreplay or did she have vaginismus?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:06 AM
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Might be because I am older and barely use those apps or because I am used to the Midwest where a 7 here is a 5 on the coasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:02 AM
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I do not have much of an explanation for that one maybe this is when they are trying to date normal guys on their level?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:00 AM
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Among normal men it matters, but the fact so many mentally unwell people can become high status as either celebrities, artists, or business people is proof it doesn't matter so it is kind of strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:32 AM
1

True just think you are underestimating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:31 AM
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very flat. Fine with me all boobs deserve love no matter big or small. Edit: she's also 43 now, those are super old pics... Guessing these were from the 90s based on how they look.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:30 AM
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7.5
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:29 AM
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average looking chicks Most are in the 3 category based on the rare pictures they post. A good example of this is when they were buying themselves wedding rings and had giant inflated obesity hands. That is one of the many reasons I think it is a case of below average women dating way above average guys then complaining he has issues or is a loser of course he has issues, treats you badly, or is a loser if he was normal he would be dating another 8 not a 3 like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:27 AM
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Based on that single photo 4 still well within dateable territory but I would need to see more photos to fully decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:25 AM
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All those people look average to me in the 4-5 range.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:24 AM
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I think people were too harsh on the women most of those women are above a 5 with an average around a 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:23 AM
1

Kanye West
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:21 AM
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With how bad inflation is I think you are wrong. You are also underestimating how many women are in do nothing management or HR jobs making surprisingly good money or the amount of diversity hires.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:20 AM
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The first time it was brownies I remember because they had some kind of nut in them that made them really good. It was kind of funny in a sad way to see him dumping the treats in the trash the next time when I didn't want them, they were cookies that time. Imagine someone putting in that much effort and the dude just tosses it in the trash. Meanwhile most average guys would kill for the kind of woman that brings them lunch at work or makes them cookies, but women don't want average guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:09 AM
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Makes sense from what I have heard talking to people dating in general is easier in Europe for men and there is a lot less dislike of nerds which I assume would also affect dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:05 AM
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Are you in Europe? Or where? Don't need a specific state or country just a general area because I am curious after I saw the exact opposite in the Midwest of America. What I saw was introverted women hating introverted guys and wanting extroverts which really confused me. I also frequently saw the has not sweat from exercise once since high school gym class ended women wanting to date the universities athletes which also made no sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:16 PM
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socializing, get a job, go where women are, preferably one hobby that women can relate to and basic social skills. Adjust your standards. Share similar life goals and values. That's it. There, I saved you 3000 dollars. I don't think that is enough when women dating coaches have had to quit because womens standards are so insanely impossibly high and such a huge amount of men I know are single. Literally 51% of men under 30 are single right now their is no way that many guys are fucking up that b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:13 PM
2

So not what I want. I can enjoy thicker women but not that level of comically oversized proportions even if they are in the right area and she is also really fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:11 PM
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I think it is more about it can help you reach the minimum attractiveness, but some people are so ugly that it can only increase their score so much and that is not enough to meet that minimum. The difference between genders is mens minimum is depending on the guy usually around 4-5 but womens it is 8 so we argue past each other or around each other over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:08 PM
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We also hate things unsaid/subtext and want things said directly. If we fuck up and say we want one thing but mean we want four things under that people could die or the project could fail so we do everything we can do to avoid that and hate when people do that sort of thing. Guess how women love to communicate? The nerd personality is so opposite of women it is one of the reasons they hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:00 PM
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No if a person is at that level nothing is going to make up for it for me. It can help a person move up a category, but a woman who I have absolutely zero physical attraction it is not going to put them into that level. It can help someone who is a 5 reach a 7, but it is only going to make a 0 go to a 2 as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:56 PM
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If she has enough other qualities it can easily push her into the I am attracted to her level. Sometimes it can be something small I really like about her even though I am neutral on her appearance like the way she smiles sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:49 PM
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Just reading through that post it made me want to be in that alpha fucks situation. Someone commented how this girl would come back from dates with guys and bring over food he bought. They ate it and fucked. Like ugh that sucks so bad. But I want to read more about it. Idk why I’m drawn to these stories. You want stories like those? A dude I tutored in university was incredibly good looking and had women he barely knew doing things like baking him food such as cookies or brownies or trying to am…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:06 PM
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Computer toucher making very good money especially for living in a lower cost of living area with a bachelors degree. The women I can go on a date with either want a beta bailout or are so bad I would not touch them with someone elses dick for reasons such as being racist or morbidly obese. I know it is not just me half of my coworkers have not been in a relationship in 5+ years and grumble about it occasionally and among the blue collar guys it is about a third of them who have similar struggle…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:59 PM
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I can't tell if this is a woman actually saying out loud this stuff for once or a man trying to put words in womens mouths.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:43 PM
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I admit I am still astound how much women are willing to tolerate from the guys they are attracted to. I don't mean abuse but straight up asshole behaviour from their SO. Its really a different world. I love telling this story of my friend who was dating an unemployed fuckboi. She went off to work one day and he stayed home and got so day drunk he took a shit on her pillow before passing out, but she still stuck with him for a couple months after that because she was a 3 and he was tall and hot.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:42 PM
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They don't based on my experiences in university. Some did date their felllow nerds, but the majority refused and either didn't date entirely or tried to date the most non nerd guy possible. I keep bringing up this one because it is such a good example of the stereotype she is a chemical engineer major who is smart, loves to read literature, and maybe even watches anime you know who that kind of woman went for? The dumbest fucking jocks or most extroverted business majors possible who didn't eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:39 PM
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How can you say that you need to be into a guy but say he doesn't have requirements to meet? That is impossible otherwise every guy would be good enough. Everyone has at least a vague notion of their own requirements list otherwise they would date the first person that asked them out and dated them for the rest of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:20 AM
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Tell that to child support bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:13 AM
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If your requirements list is so large that they required a computer to process that many and the other side can make do with a single piece of paper their is obviously going to be some confusion without resorting to trying to call someone autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:11 AM
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What I am saying is you are saying you want one thing but then not understanding why people don't understand all these sub parts you also demand as a part of it without saying that expecting us to be mind readers. Some of these sub parts will even conflict with one another and you still think it is us who is weird for thinking this is incomprehensible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:56 AM
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Can you blame us for thinking that? As one of many examples I had a woman repeatedly tell me she loved how nice I was and how I treated her but then broke up with me to date an abusive but hot fuckboi. She now whines on facebook about how hard it is being a single mother and asking where are all the nice guys? We in our own lives have plenty of examples like that so of course we aregoing to think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:54 AM
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I refuse to have kids with 30 year old women wanting a beta bailout after being mistreated and ignored by women in my 20s back when I wanted kids so something to address that would be required for me. I will not reward that behavior you made your bed now lie in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:52 AM
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Because you have thousands of unwritten parts to that simplification especially the part about needing to be into the guy. You say you want something without saying it has all these subcomponents and then act angry when people call you out for it. You are saying I want a ham sandwich then when people point out you want a ham sandwich on dark crustry bread that is somehow also soft at the same time, 8 different vegetables on it all of which have to be organic, two kinds of straight from Europe ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:47 AM
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Because if enough people refuse to buy cars the car industry collapses and thousands are now out of work. That isn't the main reason or point though the point is that it is entitlement in the example of you have $5000 which as you said is an unrealistic price range for a new car, but think you are entitled to a $50,000 car. You want something for less than it is worth and are being greedy and acting entitled in demanding that car.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:42 AM
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Economic has to be tied together imo unfortunately. Another more global example of this is cruise ships being technically in other countries even though all of their customers, most of the corporate infrastructure, and similar is in America because it lets them get away with things that would be illegal in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:22 AM
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if i want a fancy car for a cheap price and can’t find one, but i’m realistic that what i want is unlikely, it’s not entitled to say i’d rather take the bus than buy a used honda i don’t really want. See I would consider that entitlement as well so maybe it is a case of different perspectives on a concept or how a word should be used.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:20 AM
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No I would rather sit and complain about women online than be a bad person and trick people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:19 AM
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Where did you ever get the impression that only one personality type is considered desirable in men from? The idea is that everyone likes different personalities and finds someone who fits. Majority of women have absolutely no interest in introverted, soft spoken, kind, intellectual, nerdy men as a good example including the same personality people who are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:18 AM
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I can't believe "just be someone you are not" is considered legitimate advice instead of telling women that they can't all date the same personality type of extroverted, dominant, etcetera and it is stupid to want that if these women are not like that themselves. I saw this so often back in university why is an intelligent woman majoring in chemical engineering who loves to read and is a pretty stereotypical nerd interested in dating the extroverted loves to party dude majoring in marketing who …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:15 AM
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I think we need smaller regions of governance when it comes to social issues with no limits on moving between such regions. That was the original idea behind how the states were supposed to work. It doesn't really work in the modern era though because it leads to things like a credit card company going to whatever state that allows them to charge customers the most or all the poor people with health issues fleeing to whatever state can provide them more help which overburdens that state. You can…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:55 PM
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The same people who hate greedy billionaires are perfectly okay with women being greedy, entitled, and selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:51 PM
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No singular individual can be blamed for that. We can't blame people for being greedy? I gladly blame rich billionaires for being greedy even though we live in a capitalist society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:51 PM
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Before covid out of all the teachers I knew either through school, friends, or family only one stuck with it long term. That one person was an old person who knew she was getting a fat pension unlike the younger teachers and was impossible to fire due to being in the union so long so she could just teach however she wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:47 PM
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Those are not the correct numbers. The majority of men are getting fucked https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ The numbers are not wrong you are. Incels don't interact with any women IRL and don't have a social life. They're voluntary excluding themselves from the dating market. They're not being excluded. Even if they did it would not make a difference due to womens hypergamy and I feel you are saying the chicken comes before the egg because why wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:42 PM
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I came to this subreddit with an open mind because I thought maybe my opinions on women and dating are wrong so lets hear from the other side so they can tell me I am wrong. After dealing with the women here I now know my opinion of women if anything was not negative enough which is worrying and frightening. I thought women in real life were bad, but the ones here are a special new level of crazy, selfish, and entitled. I really honestly and genuinely wanted to think better of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:40 PM
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I understand all this, but that would not explain the absurd entitlement and hypergamy from women. We will obviously see a fair bit of variation for the reasons you outlined which I am well aware of, but not on the level that leaves 51% of men under 30 single. You can explain some of it away with what you said, but 51%? That is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:35 PM
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I understand that, but that would not be enough to explain the extremes and absurdities we are seeing out of modern women. It can explain some of what is happening, but not this much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:32 PM
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How can you possibly know that? All you know about what they want is that it isn't you. Because I saw who they tried to date after, was friends with some of them so I found out, or they directly told me when turning me down.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:32 PM
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How is dating someone on your own level making your life worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:04 PM
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Lol, do you believe this? Has any woman admitted to being actually alone? A lot of them here have said they are alone. They don't stay posting here very long though it is just the married/bf ones that stick around for some reason. I do notice the ones who post that then get a BF suddenly mellow the fuck out and start being a lot less of a giant raging bitch which I find funny because they themselves would never admit it and don't understand why single guys are so angry despite suffering the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 10:59 PM
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(2) There are plenty of fatass men who expect to date some athletic girl who could be a model or on TV. I don't hear much complaining about THEM. Because they are a lot less common and everyone rightfully mocks them. (3) Are you implying that any guy better looking than you could be a model or on TV? Like yourself much? Maybe THAT'S the real problem. No I am saying that is the level of guy they thought they deserved. I am nowhere near that damn conceited.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 10:52 PM
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Is that because it is maidenless?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 10:46 PM
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Usually face in my experience. If you had asked me 10-15 years ago I would have said height but womens preferences seem to have changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 10:45 PM
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Am I being gaslit or is women wanting better than what they are or if they can't get that they would rather be single anything but them being entitled? I swear these arguments are making me question my own sanity and reality that is like a go to example of how concepts like entitlement, greed, and selfishness work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 10:43 PM
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Their is no chance a 5'2 200+ pound woman is better looking than a 6'2 200 pound guy who exercises regularly unless he is deformed or something. (2) Assuming she's not better looking than you or is worse looking than you, so what? Who says she has to be attracted to everyone better looking than her? It is nothing but entitlement for a fatass woman to expect to date some athletic guy who could be a model or on TV. (3) Did she actually say she thinks she's better looking than you? Maybe that's not…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 10:41 PM
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You need to look up the definition of those words man. Women are not entitled for not sleeping with you. entitled: assuming or acting as though one has an innate right or claim to wealth, success, recognition, etc.: Such as thinking they deserve a guy that is better than them. Selfish: devoted to or caring only for oneself; concerned primarily with one's own interests, benefits, welfare, etc., regardless of others. For example only caring about ones self like they are and prioritizing yourself o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 10:39 PM
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How else would you describe womens behavior such as I described where a woman who weighed the same thing as a man even though she is a foot shorter thinking she is better looking than the dude? That is some mental illness level delusional thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 10:31 PM
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I don’t get what you mean by equal. Do you mean income, education level, attractiveness ? Looks are pretty subjective. Mostly attractiveness which is obviously subject and different people are going to have different tastes, but that would not explain the absurd hypergamy we are seeing out of women where a woman who is at most a 4 for looks thinks she deserves an 8 minimum and if she can't get that she would rather be single. I also commonly see it with income as well where a woman making $40,00…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 10:07 PM
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I still get mistaken for early 20’s. I weigh 10 pounds more than I did years ago and haven’t lost a single hair on my head. That is my story as well lost weight but kept some of the face fat so I look younger than I am, but somehow women that are barely within my tolerable zone for looks think they are better than me. How can a woman that weighs the same thing as me even though she is a foot shorter think I am not good enough for her looks wise? Womens hypergamy was always a problem, but social …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 09:59 PM
2

8 has a vibe I really like but looks too young otherwise she would be a 9 to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 09:56 PM
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You’re calling women entitled because they are ok with being single instead of being with someone they aren’t attracted to ? Where is the entitlement ? They are not attracted to their equal because they want and think they deserve better and if they can't get that they would rather be single. How is that literally anything but entitlement? How else would you define it? Answer that! How can you honestly tell me thinking you deserve above you and think your equal is not good enough is anything but…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 09:20 PM
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It is disgusting entitlement to want to have a relationship with someone on your level for men, but it isn't disgusting entitlement to refuse and instead only be willing to have a relationship with someone way above you? Do you actually believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 07:25 PM
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In that case the only concern I would have would be if I still enjoyed spending time with her such as we enjoyed watching the same movies or similar because that is about the only thing missing. I think a lot of guys would fight each other for this woman because she sounds so good on paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 05:54 AM
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What would the woman equivalent of this even be? Is it 1 to 1?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 05:48 AM
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I am surprised checkboxes like those aren't already the norm with how common childfree people are in liberal areas and how many people don't want to date single parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 04:37 AM
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That mirrors what I have gathered from talking to those women as well and it is why so many of them were in America getting education or graduated and working engineering or coding jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:11 AM
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Didn't studies show that less gender equal societies actually had more women in STEM especially when compared to the Nordic countries?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 01:35 AM
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I wonder if the cardio from all the sex will cause people to lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 01:34 AM
1

Nobody ever wrote a song titled fuck the firefighters but there are obvious reasons why people wrote a song called fuck the police.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 01:32 AM
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I would agree with that, but the younger men I talk to are experiencing it as well so I don't think it is purely an age thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 12:51 AM
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The gender that is willing to date and fuck women at their level or below them? I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 12:32 AM
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8? above average body, what I would consider average face, perfect hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 12:11 AM
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I don't like the model look so the 21 year old hottie because youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 12:03 AM
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shrug my shoulders and add yet more reasons to the pile of why I dislike women. It doesn't really even bother me that much anymore I don't get angry just add it to the pile.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:45 PM
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Yup. It’s why the bar isn’t the place to go anymore or even a viable option for some, because realistically in the older days when a woman went out and wanted some dick, she had to pick the best option in the bar or maybe 1 or 2 other bars. Yup back then I just had to be the best person in the bar or more accurately her social circle, but now I am competing with dudes not just in the entire city but if she is remotely hot then within 500 miles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:37 PM
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If I eliminate single parents, obvious drug addicts, and morbidly obese women it eliminates at least half of the dating pool where I live. I don't mind some thickness, but so fat it is causing multiple medical issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:33 PM
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That would have driven me insane even in a professional to professional setting at my work I have similar things happen and it drives me crazy. Just send me an email or something I know I am getting paid either way but I would rather be actually working instead of sitting around waiting doing nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:29 PM
1

My tastes didn't change that much over the past 20 years the only difference is an already acceptable body type became more acceptable to me (thicker women) just because I spent most of my life being fat so that is a lot of what I dated. I still think all sized boobs are amazing ranging from flat to huge and don't care much about butts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:25 PM
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Being overweight, money can afford healthier foods, nutritionists, and personal trainers, or even weight loss surgery Being able to afford eating healthier because more time and money is how I was able to lose 100 pounds even though I went from working physically active jobs to a sedentary desk job.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:10 PM
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Now a lot of posts here have gone "You would do it too if you could!" recently, or "Well now I also have problems too so NOW it should be taken seriously". And now it is at the point of if you asked women if given the choice between dating their equal or the world ending in a nuclear holocaust they would scream BRING ON THE NUKES! But somehow they think this is morally acceptable and their is nothing wrong with them mentally. What in the fucking hell is wrong with modern women to where they have…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:08 PM
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My experience was in my late teens/early 20s I wound up dating a woman I considered a 9 (most people would call 7) even though I was 300 pounds and broke working at Target for near minimum wage because I was tall, funny, and better personality wise than the other options she had in her social group. That would never happen now because the same woman would have a much larger social group with men across the country trying to hit on her and I could never compete and because humor and personality n…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:05 PM
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The comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:22 AM
2

From what I have experienced their personalities are usually a negative as I talked about with them being more demanding or bringing job stress home and the life experiences doesn't seem like much of a thing to me. Would you tolerate a guy who had a negative attitude and was unpleasant to deal with or tried to boss you around or thought and acted like he was better than you? Would you tolerate it if he still expected you to financially take care of him? Of course you would not date that guy beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 05:34 AM
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What would we gain from dating women with careers? Those women refuse to share their money and still expect me to pay for most things, come with outlandish lifestyle expectations they expect me to pay for, and bring the job stress or demanding boss bitch worksona home which no normal self respecting guy wants to deal with. I care more about personality, how she treats me, and what I get out of it and from what I have seen that is usually a negative for career women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 05:24 AM
5

That was brutal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 05:14 AM
0

I think that too but sometimes I wonder if one of the problems is I am too conservative for more liberal women and too liberal for conservative women depending on what the subject is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:32 AM
1

I don't mind living here it has advantages like cheap cost of living which combined with me making good money means an easy lifestyle, but realistically I am just stuck here because I have elderly parents I have to help take care of who refuse to move and think a town of over 1000 people is too crowded. Unfortunately it just means demographically dating will be a disaster because most of the women left either for university then never came back or after they graduated from university and never c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:26 AM
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Smaller city in the Midwest couple hundred thousand people in the city and surrounding area and I am mid 30s. My theory is all the decent women left cities like this for the coasts or the nearest major city such as Chicago or were married by 25 at the absolute latest so any woman who is still single is single for a reason. Here I get dregs like racists, gold diggers, women who expect me to be a beta bailout, and what I described above.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:21 AM
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To be fair a lot of the guys do it too and there is also the problem is different opinions among different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:36 AM
1

The young ones are usually not that bad and you can train them, but older ferals are going to put up such a fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 02:56 AM
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So ... I have 9 kittens to have spayed (along with their mothers) before we have an exponential feline population explosion here. Yikes! I had to help my mother deal with that and trying to capture 20 something feral barn cats to be spayed was not fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 02:24 AM
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Nah I just got involved in a high paying computer career in a low cost of living area. In my early 20s I was broke but now I make well over 100k in a place where my mortgage+ taxes is roughly $1500 on a 2 bedroom condo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:51 AM
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I went and measured it with a tape measure and that is basically anatomically impossible without removing ribs or being some obscene freak of genetics 1 in the millions you are right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:49 AM
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Depends on how fat she is to go with those giant boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:24 AM
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So in conclusion: Stop calling me and women like me a bitch for not wanting to settle for guys who are fat, jobless, and still live with their mom. We're not shallow, we're not petty, we just know we'd be embarrassed and unhappy with the burden of a partner who can't meet out bare minimum requirements. Your standards seem pretty reasonable to me, but I get the same treatment from women for refusing to date single mothers, morbidly obese women, ugly women, and all sorts of other similar things. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:22 PM
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So would you be okay with dating a guy who makes the exact same income as you but has the same level of looks if you were ugly? Just want to make sure I am fully understanding your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:19 PM
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Just bring D eez nuts to trade obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:11 PM
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Seems very strange to me especially the part you brought up about not being able to have other equivalents to compensate for something you are bad at. Isn't one of the points of a partnership that it is like two puzzle pieces fitting together and the two of you fulfil the others holes and areas where you are lacking? Why can't someone trade money for looks or some other trade?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:09 PM
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I find little fulfilment in it I only do it for the money. I will not find enlightenment and true happiness staring at a spreadsheet, hammering a nail on a job site, or talking to a customer. I also hate having to be someone I am not, do things at work I dislike, and wear a worksona to fit into the corporate culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:07 PM
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How do you handle standards where one side wants it but the other doesn't care? For example women want height in men but their isn't a direct match with a womans height because guys rarely care about that or alternatively income because for men a woman having a high paying job doesn't matter to us because of the scenario of my money is our money and her money is her money. I am sure their are women equivalents for this as well where a guy wants something but their is not a guy direct equivalent …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:04 PM
1

Yet another reason I stayed in the Midwest if I lived in California my rent would double and it would be even worse if I wanted to own property.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:37 PM
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The problem is that Billy now knows what's up. He's had a decade to figure it out and is uninterested in what they have to offer. I am that dude and telling them no and especially no to having a kid is delightful. If you had dated me a decade ago I would have treated you like a queen, given you a kid, let you not work if you didn't want to, and treated you amazingly but now I ask what you bring to the table and don't view you that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:34 PM
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I think the difference lies in the fact that most women consider it “settling” when the guy isn’t insanely attractive and decently wealthy. I also see them thinking the dude only being 6 feet tall is settling because they think they deserve more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:23 PM
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2 bad face and really fat. The giant teeth gap is weird but that is minor.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:16 PM
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Looks so young that I would feel creepy giving a rating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:14 PM
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Yet another 4 at most thinking she is hot shit deserving only the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:29 PM
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No kidding even the ugly and morbidly obese women I know that are 200+ pounds get more matches in a week than most guys I know get in a year. You can be that big or that ugly and still get one guy every week with a six pack matching with you. This is why my women friends think I just must be doing something wrong to be struggling because it is so easy for them so I challenge them to take over my profile for a couple days or a week. You are a nice guy and have a good job why are you single? Well …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:21 PM
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So what is motivating woman? Money and status which guys don't care as much about but women care a lot about. Guys on the other hand are more motivated by sex and having a family. How about we stop raising men to think sleeping with woman is success and raise them to chase some other purpose in life??? Like working hard so some rich capitalist can get richer off my work? No thank you. If men don't go to school because it doesn't guarantee them early sex then I have no sympathy and good riddance.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:10 PM
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Men with options and who are desirable, do not want relationships that often. It is the apex fallacy in action again of course the top guys who can sleep with a new woman almost every day of the week do not want relationships and settling down but because that guy is the only ones women can see they think that is what every guy is like when in reality most guys would happy settle down and have a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:54 PM
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Nothing will change their minds outside of massive changes that restrict their hypergamy. Women don't want to change to the point of if you ask them if given the choice between having to date your equal or the world ending in nuclear holocaust they would scream BRING ON THE NUKES! They hate men that much and are that hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:50 PM
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There are very few guys I've seen that don't seem to take care of their hygiene. It was pretty rare I experienced hygiene being an issue which is kind of surprising given the insane workload I saw people dealing with. It happened a couple times, but like I said that was rare and not the norm. It seems more difficult for men in STEM to find a partner in the first place, though, since they outnumber the women in almost all my courses. I think I saw this even in high school in my classes - 2 girls …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:02 AM
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I can only speak personally for me I now have more money, free time, and more injuries and fatigue on my body but that is about it. Friend wise it gets harder to make friends because lot of people are busy with kids, but you can make do pretty easily and finding people who don't have kids is still possible. Dating wise is obviously going to vary depending on gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:54 AM
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Is what you've described a common occurrence? It is talking to guys who went to other universities, but this is all just purely anecdotal evidence. The only exception I see is a lot of women in medicine being willing to date within the field especially if the guy is above her, but not below her such as a doctor being okay but a 2 year degree when she has a 4 year is not. The other majors like engineering and CS which is what I talk to more often is as I described according to other guys and wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:46 AM
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Do you find men or women more willing to quit the job? Any trends within that? I assume it depends on what industry you are in (assuming construction based on the name).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:18 AM
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The three type of women I saw in STEM when it came to dating were never dated the entire time they were in university and concentrated on their studies (this described a lot of the foreign women students), paired up with someone else in STEM which usually lasted the entire time they were in university most of these women either were together the dude in high school or met the dude in the first year of university, and the women I described before who refuses to go anywhere near their fellow STEM …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:57 AM
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Probably that and their low status even though they are stable, good personality, and high income.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:54 AM
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Neither do I but the same women who gush about their phone sure hate the people who designed it and those blue collar guys who built it. Instead they want some guy in marketing or an executive it makes no sense to me. The best example of this was back in university a lot of the women engineers refused to date other engineers and wanted the most stereotypically macho alpha guys possible that were dumb as a rock what in the hell were they gonna talk about? You love reading and are majoring in chem…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:40 AM
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Because nerds are like lepers in the eyes of women and low social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:36 AM
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To be fair to women a lot of this is not their fault traditionally they are the ones to have to stay home and deal with a sick kid and similar things which makes sense not just because of single mothers but in dual parent households where the man earns more/has a more demanding career. I can't actually blame women for this especially when there is also the factor of period pain being debilitating for a small percent of women. Not womens fault they have kids or biological reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:30 AM
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I don't think I am putting conditions on something if the dude is at least an 8 if not for his height is going for women who are mostly around a 4 in one of the easiest places to date for men in America. Most guys would have to hit the gym for a minimum of 6 years to be on his level of strength if they are doing it without roids and would you think it is normal to have to put in 6 years of work minimum to date women who are half your level?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:03 AM
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That isn't realistic for most guys the dude is strong as hell. I had this exact same conversation with another woman here like 2 months ago and they said if you are 5'6 just become a green beret. Yuk also loves fat women which makes it easier and lives in one of the easiest places to date in America as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:57 AM
2

Too bad we can't just block them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:50 AM
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what happens is that the guys with bad faces or short height also aren't a full package so then they stand little chance. That is what I am saying women want a full package and if the guy is not perfect in EVERY other category then at least way above average which is already statistically improbable to compensate for one category being average or slightly below average. Meanwhile the same guys standards are extremely low even before comparing it to his equals standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:48 AM
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As for the masses of LVMs, either situational homosexuality on a macro scale or boiling discontent, society would prefer the former but needs to prepare for the latter (instead of acting as if it's not a potential problem). The average womans response will be smh those scrotes should learn their place and keep doing and dying for society without complaint I don't want to hear it and I don't want to deal with emotional labor. Men are just so bad smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:39 AM
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You can be 600 pounds, heavily disabled, mute, deaf, and smell like death and there will still be some guy who will be willing to date you. Meanwhile as a guy oh you are a couple inches too short or don't have a good face even though everything else is perfect you are going to struggle and likely never find a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:35 AM
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We have examples of shooters with obvious cries of help being ignored by the people who should be helping them because they are men. Here is one recent example he was bringing heads of dead animals to school, likely suffering from child abuse and neglect, and drew pictures of shootings with the words "The thoughts won't stop. Help me". The guy is repeatedly and loudly crying for help including literally saying Help me but people don't care because it is a boy. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:32 AM
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That and fat women refusing to date fat men are the two best obvious pieces of evidence of womens insane levels of hypergamy in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:23 AM
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Lots of women incredibly pissed and angry they can't date some rich white collar dude and their two choices are college educated STEM nerds or blue collar dudes both of which they have no interest in. They would rather be single than date "down" so we are going to have massive demographic problems and a lot of angry single men which is really bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:23 AM
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Where did I say toxic masculinity lol? You’re funny. Keep pushing random narratives into the argument that I didn’t even say. I know the arguments your types usually give so I am getting ahead of schedule.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:20 AM
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You are shifting blame and then pretending you are not doing that. Some people when they get hurt lash out if you don't want them to lash out stop hurting them and go after the people who hurt them and provide support to them such as therapy instead of telling them about toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:16 AM
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You have people who were literally beaten black and blue by their own parents and still didn’t grow up to hurt people. that is exactly what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:12 AM
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No shit because society actually cares about women and they are heavily catered to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:08 AM
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Let me get this straight you are saying the kids should suck up being beaten black and blue and we should not blame the parents? You want to blame the kid not the parent?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:08 AM
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8-9 for me even not taking into account her age. Once again like most celebrities really not my type even though she has a nice body and decent face.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:50 AM
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Not for most people it is a mixture of genetics and various other factors including surgery a lot of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:48 AM
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Even if you ignore the gender gap didn't dating on the spectrum try that or other similar shows with people with disabilities and it kept failing because women would not date their peer with the same disability or some other form of disability? I remember one show focusing on people with dwarfism and a lot of the women refused or were angry about having to date other guys with it. It has been ages since I watched that kind of reality TV so I might be remembering bits and pieces wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:47 AM
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Julianne Hough 8 obviously good looking but really not my type so hard to give her above that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 10:50 PM
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Never seen clit but seen the occasional nipple piercing or once or twice what I am guessing was clit piercing because their gym attire was so tight. Lots of camel toes though that is not rare to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 08:25 PM
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I'm a big hairy hetero dude, and...holy shit this is easy. I basically could have sex with like any of a dozen people today if I wanted. The amount of attention I have gotten from gay man compared to women is so absurd. Guys practically salivate over me because I am tall, strong, and have a masculine dominant/top energy (according to my gay friends I asked about it), but women are all ehhh idk sure he is tall but I have seen stronger guys (because they are used to seeing roid users in movies) an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 08:22 PM
1

Getting over my shock over god being real then sure I am fine with dying to save my wife even in scenarios other than labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 08:17 PM
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Somehow despite lots of examples like this, studies, and my experiences people don't understand why I think women are the problem in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:24 AM
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This feels familiar https://imgur.com/a/ZeDzZBn
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:44 AM
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This would be a good subject for a new thread. But women ALWAYS turn it back onto men, rather than answering the question. "Well what do men bring? Why are men fat, bald, bitter, broke?". Ask women threads are always a waste of time because most of them completely avoid the question, are more interested in trying to insult men, or try and turn the question around in some weird way such as using strawman tactics. The ask men threads are sometimes bad, but never that bad!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:05 AM
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God he is just so charming and articulate. Meanwhile in reality the dude talks like someone from idiocracy and can barely string a sentence together but they are so blinded by the halo effect. At least guys when blinded by the halo effect don't say things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:51 PM
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I just view it as purely transactional now and most women bring nothing to the table besides vagina and with that if I cared that much about it I could get a hooker for cheaper. They don't bring looks anymore because they are too old and didn't take care of themselves, they don't bring fertility, they sure as absolute hell do not bring personality, they don't bring money and even if they did I would usually not care, they don't care about me and taking care of me nor are they going to actively m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:44 PM
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Nope I wanted them in my 20s but know having them now in my 30s or in the future is not going to happen because I don't have the energy for raising them and I am not going to be some misogynistic asshole and tell my wife to deal with it because that is not fair to her. The women available for me to date are usually in their 30s as well and why should I reward them with a kid after they previously hurt me and also made me wait so long? It is too damn late now ladies you snooze you lose. If you wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:41 PM
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I hate it when people start paying attention to you once you acquire resources and status. If you were not there for the struggle why should you share in the rewards unless you bring something on the level of those rewards to trade? Very few women willing to date me bring that so I look at them as the disposable pieces of trash they are and rarely go past the first date or two. Ghosting them or telling them no and being rewarded by their feelings of anger and hurt is such a good feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:26 PM
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Thinking you are better than men on your level does indeed make you a bad person it means you are things like selfish, greedy, conceited, and the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:21 PM
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You want to respect the people who treat you this way? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 10:59 PM
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Jesus she looks a lot younger than that I was guessing 40-50 depending on the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 10:54 PM
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7-8 when she was younger but did not age very well based on recent pictures. Her face got both puffier, more wrinkles, and flaws so I would give her a 5 because that was the primary selling point she had previously.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 10:31 PM
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and it isn't possible for guys to be more picky if they have both fewer options to begin with due to womens insane pickiness and more of a desire for a relationship. It is easiest to think of it as job seekers vs employers an employer has far more options for employees and a job seeker is usually stuck being less picky because employers hold the power.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 10:29 PM
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That is a pretty fair assessment, now do the men because from what I can tell they are almost as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 10:11 PM
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My two options when I was in my teens and 20s was a mixture of loneliness because of womens insane standards and the women I did date treating me like shit. Now those same women who ignored me want to date me in their 30s because I have money funny how that works. Telling them no and especially no to having kids is one of the things that makes me happiest in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 09:08 PM
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Men need to stop pursuing/having sex with women they don't personally like. I dont mean romantically, just like as a human being. Your FWB should be your real friend. Your one night stand should be friend material. Your girlfriend should be best friend material. Even your tinder match should be someone you can actually see yourself hanging out with fully clothed. Not realistically possible for a lot of guys because women are so picky we are stuck dating bottom of the barrel women that we put up …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 09:01 PM
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I am mid 30s and already feel it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:36 PM
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I understand where you are coming from but you are advocating for too much of the opposite and that is also not good. I think you are also likely to be coming from a place of massive privilege yourself so you don't understand why men are upset about struggling in dating so it feels like a rich person telling a poor person money doesn't matter and sure I am a billionaire, but their are starving people are Africa so why should you be able to complain about getting evicted because the rent is too h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 02:34 AM
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It is possible, just unlikely so set smaller goals for yourself and work towards them so they can eventually stack up to a big goal like getting jacked. I was able to get a lot stronger, but unless I was willing to turn it into a complete lifestyle and likely go on roids getting jacked would have been impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 02:29 AM
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You are assuming they are ever in long term relationships in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 12:39 AM
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Depends on the individual in general I find that is more of a 20 year old thing and not getting into it till I was already almost 30 fucked me personally. I think general strength training and stretching is more important for older people than stacking plates especially with how easy it is to injure yourself in your 30s and how much longer it takes to heal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 12:38 AM
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Eat cleaner, sleep 8 hours a night for most guys, listen to the recovery plan for any injury you get for the love of god, find lower impact exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 12:06 AM
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Over the past couple years I have cut out well over half of the women in my life because of reasons like that or other mistreatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 10:12 PM
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I am going to name my future kid after you because you are such a good guy. OOOOF that one hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:07 AM
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I still have my number memorized even though I have not used it in at least 15 years god that makes me feel old.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:06 AM
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Not many in my experience and they are almost always married so getting revenge against single women doesn't make much of a difference because you can assume they are guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:04 AM
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In my experience yes. I have had women tell me why can't I find a nice guy like you? I want to find a nice husband! After I have asked them out months ago and now they are crying about the last fuckboi who mistreated them. They really did not like that if I pointed that out to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:03 AM
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Women being the way they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:57 AM
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Comments like you would make such a good husband means you are an ugly beta dude who women have no interest in sexually or to date until maybe they are older and need money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:57 AM
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Nothing wrong with revenge and making people pay the price.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:17 AM
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At this point I would rather be openly insulted or told horrible things than that after knowing what it really means.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:16 AM
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No wonder I am doing badly I have been using Mosaic browser.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:14 AM
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Most but not all of the Asian guys I know struggled in dating and probably would wind up in places like this if not for outright arranged marriages or lesser versions of it. Some guys had absolutely no problems though so I think it heavily varies. The women though fell into three main categories refused to date until the career was secured, very traditional only ever dated other Asian guys or did the arranged marriage deal, or like OP is describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:12 AM
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The woman cringes at the man approaching her because she doesn't find him attractive, and that's all there is to it. I don't know why they make up these ridiculous excuses. I agree I just like catching people in a lie and pointing out the lies women tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 02:57 AM
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Well, yes, women are the gatekeepers of their bodies, as are men. What’s the alternative, men just taking it? Gatekeepers of dating not bodies. No one is requiring men to approach strangers. They could establish a social circle and a social life. Women get angry when guy friends hit on them but you are saying do it anyway? Not to mention the problem with friend zoning. Men make the choice to approach strangers. Because women tell them OLD is bad and not to hit on your social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 02:30 AM
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I think it is strange as well, but it was the only thing I could pick up on and think of. Most commonly with women was smaller things like acting angry towards me, treating me like I am not good enough and something like that they are doing me a favor by dating me, having outlandish expectations like expecting me to pay for everything or all sorts of other things. I think a lot of this is not even conscious it is just them having oversized expectations for looks because of social media, online d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 01:05 AM
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Lots of ways? Like I said I have even gotten physically abused because of it once because from what I can tell she was subconsciously angry I was not good looking enough even though we were on the same looks level.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 12:13 AM
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I don't expect that level of treatment, but most women when dating don't even fucking try at all. I am just asking you to at least make something resembling an effort but instead I feel like you either don't want me, only want me for what I can provide such as work or money, and expect me to be the one to be doing all the effort in the relationship acting like I am worshipping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 12:04 AM
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Most of my ex girlfriends are on the level of casual friend I see a handful of times a year or are just facebook friends if we even keep in contact at all so it is an accurate statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 11:57 PM
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Mainly there yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 11:55 PM
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If other men weren’t lying and making up phony reasons to approach women all the time, women wouldn’t pull back. It’s nearly always the beginning of a sales pitch. It is just the price you pay for being the passive one and gatekeeper sorry. If you didn't want that to happen women collectively would have to stop being like they are and actually be the pursuer in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 11:23 PM
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Too bad the only way an average guy can get treated like that is by dating crazy women or maybe going overseas.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 11:21 PM
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I can't believe how much less interest I get on dating platforms when I take my job off my profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 11:19 PM
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Yes, was socially active before covid, and because women are incredibly picky about looks so being 6'2 and well off with a good personality is not enough to make up for being below average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 11:06 PM
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She'll usually tell you what works if you ask and what works is usually similar anyway. In my experience women are incredibly tight lipped frequently refusing to talk about it and sometimes don't even know themselves. I just want to make you happy and give you pleasure I don't care either way if you want more clit stimulation or soft or harder or whatever you want just tell me please. I have gotten used to having to experiment and gauge based on her reactions, but I can't blame guys for not want…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 11:03 PM
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So did she tell you she used you for a free meal? No but she barely spoke during the date, I have had others spend more time playing with their phone than they did talking to me, or other similar behaviors. I had the phone thing happen so often that I now get up and leave if they pull it out more than once or twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 10:00 PM
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But you chose to confront my comment responding to another user saying women want a free meal ticket when going on dates. So I assume that is the stance you are taking? Yes because I have had it happen to me. I can afford to lose 40 dollars, but to be used like that is very hurtful, rude, and annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:55 PM
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You are an accountant and know how statistics work, but think a survey is not good enough for a basic online argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:47 PM
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Go check the other one they did it was a third and 23% is still absurd. Surveying is how you are able to get numbers because you obviously can't ask every single person have you ever taken a statistics class before?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:37 PM
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Do YOU genuinely feel that way or are you just trying to throw some hypothetical bitch's words back in her face by making this argument. I feel both because I have personally experienced it a couple times with women friends or ones I dated and have also seen women here make statements about it. It makes you feel incredibly used to have previously supported someone and then when you need help they ignore you or refuse to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:29 PM
5

Yes they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:28 PM
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Lower your standards and help your male friends with things like fashion? A lot of women have similar presentation issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:26 PM
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Lol @ the first thing, like women cannot afford food nowadays? A third of women admit to going on a date for free food even though they were not interested in a guy https://www.studyfinds.org/foodie-call-third-women-admit-dating-for-free-meal/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:23 PM
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Bodyguards and therapists are people, no? The difference is they get paid for it or do something in trade, but women will expect me to be a therapist but then when I need help tell me they are not gonna do my emotional labor. This is a common complaint from women here about how they don't want to be the source of emotional support and comfort for their husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:17 PM
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The way i'm sometimes only there to serve a purpose or perform a service. And then thrown away like a piece of garbage such as a plastic spoon she just finished eating lunch with. That is how they view you and treat you but don't you dare get angry about it or start to hate women this is somehow your fault you misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:14 PM
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Not exactly commonplace, although I do think it doesn't happen that often either, but I might be too positive about it. You would be very surprised at just how bad and common it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:13 PM
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I had the same experience only replace bar with watch a movie or play video games together. It was so nice when we both had days off we would have sex two or three times a day even though it was so hot in the cheap apartment we lived in. I miss being young so much sure it sucked being poor but that was by far the best time of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 08:45 PM
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5/10s Feeling generous today are we?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 06:01 AM
1

Depends on how successful the daughter is and how they spend it there is a difference between someone making enough to retire at 30 through sex work and someone making 500 dollars a month to try and help support a drug habit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:20 AM
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"tell these children they were wrapped by the elf who got into the Scotch" Too much alcohol heavy eggnog. Kids don't mind though they are usually just happy to get something and have fun ripping the wrapping apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 12:15 AM
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how would i not take this to mean you wish you could treat women badly? idgi? Saying I think women could choose better and prioritize behavior over looks is not saying I want to abuse women it is saying I think they could avoid it and get treated better if they dated differently. If anything it is me saying I want them to be treated better and am trying to provide advice so that they are treated better. yeah this is super fucked up and one reason i dont think its ever okay to not be transparent …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:39 PM
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What are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:29 PM
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When you need them most, women hate you. and then when you are winning and have already crossed the finish line they try and tackle you to secure you even though they were not there for the hard parts. Additionally I will never unsee how many of my friends/acquaintances' GFs visibly show me attraction... or even outright make, or hint at, moves. The amount of thirst I get from girls certain amounts 'below me' in SMV is disheartening... the girl you date is doing that to guys leagues above you. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:17 PM
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Because guys were lied to throughout their entire life about it and women continue to lie and virtue signal even though it is a lie. How would you react to that with anything but feelings of anger and being betrayed?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:08 PM
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Homeless shelters were usually older guys, often people who had past homelessness or addiction. That was the demographic I saw a lot of middle to older guys who frequently either had issues with addiction, poverty, or homelessness in their past. I did this gift-wrapping thing for a charity at Christmas (in the Empire State Building, way up high, it was so cool) and there wasn't a single guy. We even laughed about it a little. Guys hate wrapping gifts ime 😂 I just find it not worth the effort to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:05 PM
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so your anger is because women don't fuck you while you treat them like shit? What? No? When did I ever say that. I am saying women keep dating guys who treat them badly because they prioritize looks over behavior and the reason I keep getting treated badly by women no matter my good behavior is because my looks are not good. Stop going for fuckbois who treat you badly and go for good men who might not be as good looking if you want a loving non toxic relationship. Stop treating men badly just b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:01 PM
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I didn't start with such a negative opinion of women if anything it used to be too high it is my experiences dating them and being friends with me that has taught me to hate them. As just one example of why I have changed to hate women I used to think personality, behavior, and how you treat your partner were important and that looks did not matter but when I compare how I have been treated by women and how women have treated good looking guys I know that is wrong and that looks are all that mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:21 PM
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Not to bring up a bad topic when we are discussing a good thing but did you notice the gender ratio was really bad when you were at the soup kitchens and homeless shelters? When I was doing those things it was around 75% men and most of the women who were helping were older. Talking to my women friends the gender ratio is the opposite when volunteering with animals though strangely according to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:15 PM
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I am sorry you went through that with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:12 PM
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Hope they have a good enough personality to make up for it so far most have not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:06 PM
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as you can see it’s slim pickings out here 🤷🏻‍♂️ Doesn't seem very slim based on how fat the average women in the dating pool is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 08:45 PM
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This. The majority of women have narcissistic tendencies. They worry about themselves with little real concern for others. Of course they virtue signal concern all over the place. I have lost count of how many women in this subreddit seemed legitimately confused by why they should care about anyone but themselves. Who the hell is raising these women? Is it their parents causing this? feminism? society? What? Not caring about anyone but yourself on that level is some form of narcissism or sociopa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 08:42 PM
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Love to see them height https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/q4kour/what_are_some_biases_that_skew_sexual_studies/hfzt93c/ income here is just one I know of immediately and I am sure I could find more. https://imgur.com/a/RlqIvQQ
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 08:31 PM
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You either hit the 8+ mark or it is a complete waste of time because of how hypergamous women are and that level of change is outright impossible for most guys. Most guys through dieting, hard work, fashion, and all that are at the absolute most going to gain 2 points with 1 being more the norm so unless you started as a 7 or a high 6 for most guys it is pointless. Women on the other hand the looks standards are so god damn low that just not being fat puts you in the 6+ category for a lot of guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:50 PM
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It is painful how accurate this it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:24 PM
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Don't forget wallets and movers of heavy things as well as providers of social status. Human beings though? Not in the eyes of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:23 PM
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I am cynical enough to think maybe half of these e personalities are actually into it the rest are just trying to profit both the red pill types and FDS types.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:40 AM
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Google says YouTube gets 30% content creator gets 70%.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:12 AM
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Yikes what does this say about the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:48 AM
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I can't think of many other reasons for why I got mistreated by women I treated with nothing but kindness who were either my looks match or below.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:26 AM
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Desperate involuntary spinsters spending thousands because they fucked up or are such a giant pain in the ass no guy wants to deal with them. They are also usually not going to be as successful as a dual parent household so you are hurting the kid in doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:03 AM
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I will illustrate this with a story of a woman friend of mine who thought men were pigs and behaved badly and that the bar was low. He was unemployed and while she was at work got so day drunk he took a shit on her pillow before passing out. She still stayed with him for a couple months after this why? Because he hit her ridiculous looks threshold and she was a 3. If you meet womens impossible looks threshold you can basically do whatever you want personality and behavior wise which is why they …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:00 AM
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Not gonna lie, I quickly fell in love with her because she showered me with affection and kindness - for a guy like me, that dated mostly “distant” and “cold” women, it was an exciting thrill. I miss that feeling of being loved and wanted far more than the sex. I don't think wanting to feel loved, wanted, kindness, and affection but most women I have dated were unable to show that I assume because I am not good looking but a crazy woman would not care and still treated me like I was a gift to wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:49 AM
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Not at all interested in casual sex so I might try something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:42 AM
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Tell me about it gold diggers and women who want a beta bailout because I am well off seem to make up half the women I used to wind up going on dates with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:38 AM
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I still don't know if I should keep my job off my profile or not on one hand when I do it massively cuts down on the amount of women interested, but it also helps keep the gold diggers away so I am damned if I do damned if I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:36 AM
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Wanting a provider is fine, if you actually bring something to the table for it or are more willing to act like a traditional woman. If you just want to be modern woman here me roar and expect to still have him be a provider then you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:35 AM
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Two minutes in Wal-Mart will disprove that idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:33 AM
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Congratulations on graduating good luck finding a job hopefully it is less stressful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:32 AM
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Mid 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:29 AM
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Pulling all nights in my 20s was so easy, but now if I do it I am almost completely unable to do much the next day.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:50 AM
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Feminists are worse to date at least the single mother is not going to automatically be a hateful bitch towards me. I will deal with an extra cost to a kid and being a lower priority than dating a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:23 AM
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They have something I like and I think I would enjoy spending time with them. She has nice legs and a good personality, she has a pretty face and a kind caring personality, she has giant boobs and we have the same hobbies, she is kind of cute and has a good laugh. I don't need much to develop an initial interest in someone and then it is up to how the rest plays out to see if that actually develops into something more. Most of the time this doesn't turn out to be anything, we are not actually co…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:15 AM
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Is he thinking of Oscar the Grouch?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:37 PM
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The entire concept that this many people are this willing to take a deal that raw probably indicates the perceived regular alternatives aren't that great. I am confused by this part could you clarify? Not sure if you are talking about how men take the raw deal or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:35 PM
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Money becomes more important as you get older and women become more willing to "settle" for their equal usually because they are desperate to have a baby which is why you see so many marriages in late 20s early 30s. I don't think it is men getting older having higher value it is just those two things together.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:08 PM
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Vagina or penis it still is an n count increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:53 PM
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I don't think it is that simple when women are so lazy and sexually incompetent. You are saying men seek out heroin because the tiny amount of caffeine in tea is not enough when in reality tea could just be something on the lines of diet coke or weed and be fine. I don't expect spontaneousness, amazing unprompted blowjobs, and kinky sex like with my crazy ex but I at least expect you to do more than starfish, expect me to do all the work, barely be willing to suck dick even though I eat you out …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:48 PM
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Then why do women lie and do everything they can to convince guys otherwise? You are blaming someone for falling for it instead of blaming women who are liars and charlatans.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:29 PM
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I'm sure I could have a ball dating a bunch of overweight or desperate 35+ year olds on Tinder. I did the first and a little bit of the second they don't even appreciate it and think they are the ones doing you a favor. Lady you weigh 30 pounds more than me even though you are 9 inches shorter you should not be acting so god damn high and mighty. Women are that insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:27 PM
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Guys are stuck dating women we would not even tolerate as friends because we have so limited options in who we can date and the alternative is being alone. Women can practically get away with murder in the relationship with their behavior and guys just have to suck it up, but women are so insane they don't even know this happens because they are so used to the privileges of being a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:24 PM
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Vagina tingles confirmed? He is a fuckboi who has fucked four of my friends and not treated them well, but he is so hoooooooooot I am gonna fuck him anyway. WHY DID HE TREAT ME BADLY AND THEN LEAVE?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:19 PM
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No, that's just a mentally ill woman. No one should be physically abused, Not the only example I have of women who were at my level or below treating me badly because of how much women care about looks. Subconciously they were upset I was not hot enough for their hypergamous tastes so they would still treat me badly even if I did everything I could to treat them nicely like having supper ready when they got home, listened to them bitch about work, and gave them a foot rub they would still 20 min…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:17 PM
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The ones in the epiphany phase are great I hope those realizations really hurt ladies. My best example of this is an ex girlfriend who kept repeatedly telling me she loved how nice of a guy I was and how I treated her, but then broke up with me to date an abusive fuckboi and now a kid or two later is sitting on facebook whining about how hard it is being a single mother and where are all the nice guys? You had one you dumb cunt you chose the abusive fuckboi.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:12 PM
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Are you out here trying to date ugly women or do you think that your money and height should get you more? I did that already that is why I got so much mistreatment I was already at their level or above them but because subconsciously they only wanted a top guy they treated me badly. He is not the hot fuckboi I want so I am gonna physically abuse him as punishment for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:10 PM
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If you aren't their first choice don't bother they will either eventually go back to that guy or guys like that or make your life miserable because deep down they are unhappy they got what they consider second place. Being apart definitely doesn’t stop women. I’ve had girls hit me up years later even though I was miles away. Legit, one girl was willing to move across the country. Monkey branching is incredibly common and powerful if you improve yourself as a man that is how I have had multiple e…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:59 PM
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How can women justify demanding not just height and money but also above average looks? Based on height and money guys like me make up around 5% of the population so we are already rare and now they are demanding looks to go with it? What in the hell is wrong with women to be this selective. It would be like me saying oh you need to be 5'2 and below 100 pounds but also have giant boobs to go with it the chances of all three of those things lining up is astronomical and people would think I am nu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:46 PM
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From what I have seen no a lot of women really go for that look.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:41 PM
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And that is why women are garbage who think with their vaginas not their brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:38 PM
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Being tall or making decent money doesn't make up for being unattractive. Because women are insane and demand not just six feet tall and six figures like I am but also good looking is what you are saying? What kind of hypergamous bitches think a guy not only has to be tall and rich he also has to be good looking? How in the world does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:37 PM
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I don't understand how women complain men don't put effort into their profiles women are a lot worse about it from what I have seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 04:57 AM
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Hard to say thinking thoughts like 80% of men are below average is anything but that I guess just because it is something that warps reality which is a good definition of mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 04:55 AM
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Strange thing how every single bad trait hurts men more than it hurts women. Guys are much happier with a wider variety of women than the other way around. Small boobs, tall, all sorts of other traits you are still going to find a decent portion of men still interested in you or in fact really like that trait. Guys on the other hand are expected by women to be at least above average in every category at once which is so statistically unlikely that mentality borders on mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 04:49 AM
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There wouldn't be certain guys that have tons of options and fuck their way through entire friend groups, clubs ect. I don't understand how that keeps happening. How can a group of around 10-15 people with an even split of men/women have one guy who has fucked all the women and 3 of the other guys have not had sex with any of them? Assuming the group has not imploded before that due to drama though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 04:47 AM
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Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 03:29 AM
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I joked that my strategy was proof that I had effectively tested-out of business school. I would agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 03:04 AM
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here isn't much reason to tell them something offensive man. Make them hurt is my opinion so try and understand how their mind works and then use that against them. Revenge is delightful to me. You can't just rock a gamer bod, make a half assed tinder profile, and expect a decent quality woman to knock on your door lol. Build yourself up as a man. Its an all day every day process. Did all that lost 100 pounds, put on muscle, went from making near minimum wage to making six figures, and did what …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 03:03 AM
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Sadly I didn't have time for things like getting more physically in shape until after I graduated because I was lower class so I had to work my way through university. Strangely I didn't find it made that much of a difference losing 100 pounds and getting stronger it just increased the quantity of women interested not the quality and the quality is bottom of the dumpster bad. If I was not 6'2 I am sure I would have stayed a virgin in university like a lot of my male peers did and even then I had…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 02:40 AM
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I got 30 day banned for telling a mod to step down after they openly admitted in a thread they abused their mod powers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 02:36 AM
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What about me? I am mid 30s, making six figures, 6'2, average weight, below average face and dating is still a nightmare for me where I can get women who are only the absolute bottom of the barrel like racists, insane women, morbidly obese, drug addicts, women who want a beta bailout, gold diggers, and all those sort of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 02:34 AM
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Basically dating isn't worth it for the bottom half to bottom 60% of guys because of how hypergamous selective women are. Instead tell women something offensive towards them and find the things in life that make you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 02:32 AM
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If you get abused, significantly less people believe you. Among other similar bad reactions when I mentioned this to women I got asked what I did to make her mad. Can you imagine if the roles were reversed and a guy said to a woman what did you do to make your boyfriend mad enough to punch you? Kind of obvious why I never mention this in real life anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 02:30 AM
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But the guys who were actually willing to date them, love them, take interest in their lives, etc.... Yeah those girls ignored those guys entirely. All of the girls did this. This mirrors a lot of what I saw back when I was attending a STEM focused university. There were hundreds of good guys desperate for love wanting to get to know a woman and they were working hard to succeed in life, but they were completely ignored in favor of fuckbois who did not at all care about the women. Even most of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 02:26 AM
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Even without the kids she is at best average looking so the chances of finding a hot aussie bloke who is willing to deal with all the immigration problems is nearly zero.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/05/22 08:45 PM
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It is interesting how women seem to hate laziness but guys don't seem to care and are fine doing housework and providing for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:20 AM
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Oh so they are going to start becoming garbagemen, construction workers and other jobs like nuclear engineer that keep our society running that currently women refuse to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:47 AM
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If she brings all that to the table and is younger I am fine with it. I am more annoyed at not helping with chores than I am the money aspect. I don't mind paying for a premium good and this woman brings a lot to the table so her not having a job is acceptable. If she is not younger then I would have to think about it, but I think I would still accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:42 AM
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Not anymore I don't think women are actually capable of feeling it towards their partner only men are capable of it. Women do seem capable of it towards their children but not their husband which makes it even more confusing and strange, but I assume this is because that is a different kind of love. From what I can tell women don't feel love they only feel lust or things such as a desire for a guys utility and what he provides not actual love.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 11:01 PM
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It is like they have a radar that lets them pick the worst out of a crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 09:02 PM
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Because we have experienced this it is out fault somehow?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 09:02 PM
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It's much better to focus on other things, set goals and pursue a mission in life. Become who you were meant to be. I do both I have a good life and can also enjoy their failures and suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 09:00 PM
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A tale as old as time man helps woman improve and then woman leaves him for someone hotter now that she can.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 08:52 PM
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Not really any noticeable difference in warmth. Tightness on the other hand varies a lot and also in my experience depends on their arousal levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 08:50 PM
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Because lesbian women won't financially provide for her and let her be a complete moocher.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 05:41 AM
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As opposed to the others like he must make six figures even though I work at Wal-Mart? Face it womens standards are way too high and it is the cause of the majority of problems in dating either directly or indirectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 04:27 AM
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None of “women’s standards” at least as you’ve stated them, are so cut and dry to support your conclusions. What part of common things like MUST BE 6 FEET OR TALLER is not cut and dry enough to support the conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 04:14 AM
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Cuddles I like kissing, but cuddles are just so much more important and I desire them way more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 02:57 AM
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How often do you see a normal or skinny woman with a fat guy around say 50 pounds overweight? Very rare you ever see this right? Almost always they are with a woman as fat as they are or usually way fatter. Now how often do you see the opposite a normal or skinny guy with a woman 50 pounds overweight? So often you don't even give it a thought or second glance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 02:56 AM
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The average woman does not look at dating as though she is a queen sitting on a throne making peons dance for her amusement- Just like a millionaire will still say he is middle class and not rich. if she can't get what she wants easily, she'll feel powerless too. That is the problem she wants more than what she offers hence the power imbalance just like in job seeking. If she offered more than minimum wage, part time, with no benefits she would be able to get what she wants but she refuses and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 02:54 AM
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edit: do you like hot rich girls? No it constantly feels like they think they are better than me and looking down at me. I didn't notice this with hot middle class girls so I think it is just a money and class thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 01:42 AM
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It depends heavily on the kind of man you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 01:39 AM
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Repetitive can be solved by learning how making different meals with new techniques. It can be actually really challenging and exciting to make certain meals. I think that is what is the distinction between people you find it exciting but other people find it boring and only care about the end product. A lot of guys love working on a car and find monkeying around in the garage fixing it or making tweaks exciting and interesting for them, but other people such as myself just want it to take them …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 01:38 AM
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It is boring repetition work requiring paying attention to and preplanning with grocery shopping that also tends to be time consuming and not at all rewarding if you are just doing it for yourself. It feels completely pointless to spend 30 minutes of my time making a meal I am going to finish in less than 10 minutes. Because of this I just make very basic food and meal prep my dinner protein in advance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:25 AM
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She is on the border but more towards fat than curvy. I would not have any problems dating her though. I would say 15 pounds lighter and she could be curvy depending on where it is lost from.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:22 AM
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And this is my fault how? It would also not explain a lot of things we are seeing like women rating men so low in attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:45 PM
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They can have their emotional needs meet through friends and families in a way many men don’t. Can't instead of don't is more accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:17 PM
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Yes, in my 30s I was still open for marriage and family. I was a very good earner, lived frugally, invested shrewdy. But my age peer counterparts were beginning to be too old for starting a family. That is how I am as well I drive an 8-10 year old car, never dress up unless it is for a job interview or date, barely spend money and just save the vast majority of my money. Most of my hobbies are cheap or free and even my most expensive hobby is rarely more than 500 dollars a year. For some reason …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:13 PM
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Very good find hopefully this will make women shut the fuck up about things like it being old or stupid statement that men are too picky and women are not picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:03 PM
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I don't know how much this would accomplish with how gender segregated hobbies are which plays into community spaces around that hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:52 PM
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Because for most guys very few women are actually attracted to them because of how insane womens standards are. You are blaming them for someone elses issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:51 PM
2

Hey if it makes you happy date all the trans people you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:47 PM
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I probably would not like it, but it is their body and their choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:46 PM
2

But feminists destroyed community with prostitution. What? I am pretty anti feminist and I still don't get that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:22 PM
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The price of escorts is too high for most men to see regularly. I spoke to one escort before and she says her regulars are old businessmen and old married men - hence they have money. She said she rarely sees younger men. If you have enough money to see hookers that often at a young age you don't need to see hookers because golddiggers and the like will flock to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:21 PM
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My stats and the fact so many gay men are interested in me says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 07:29 PM
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Not from what I can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 07:28 PM
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Hi Cat chances are I will have too as well the femcels have found my comments and keep reporting even the most benign ones. Edit: I don’t think I’ve even shaken hands with 45 people. That’s a lot of guys. 45 people is just such a large number especially over such a short time period.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:55 PM
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No, women don't just assume guys who can't get dates are sexist or creepy lol, maybe socially inept but not evil lol. But I get comments like that sometimes from the women here?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:52 PM
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She is 24 now and claims it is in her past so she was I am guessing 22 when it ended based on university ages and how she is describing it. Assuming that gives us a 5 year window it works out to 9 new partner a year or one every 1.33 months. In a single year she gained a higher N count than the average guys entire lifetime number.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:50 PM
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A whole lot higher than the percent of women that would fuck even a 350 pound man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:42 PM
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I can get women to date me, but the quality is so low I am better off alone and out of all the women I have dated only one treated me right the rest treated me badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:08 PM
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In any case, most women who say that to you are probably just trying to wind you up and see how you react: they want to see how secure you feel about yourself. Mostly confused because it felt so absurd. I think I reacted like someone telling me 5+5=2. It just did not compute because I know how rare it is I see guys taller than me so my response was one of logic and that makes no sense instead of anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:06 PM
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I know that now because of how women have responded which killed any gym and self improvement motivation I had.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:04 PM
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you do realize we have guys who would fetishize a woman that is 400 pounds right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:03 PM
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Says a lot about women doesn't it. Meanwhile guys are happy with such a wide variety of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:58 AM
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Then it isn't equality is it if I previously put in more work in the past and also make more than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:57 AM
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What kind of behavior are you doing that has even your own dad calling you a slut?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:31 AM
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That is a lot of what I experienced too. When I was young and struggling women were either not interested or treated me badly except for one woman I would have married if not for her mental illness. I worked hard 60+ hours a week putting myself through university while also working and then working unpaid overtime once I graduated so now I can take it easy 30-35 hours a week while still making good money. With those experiences I don't see why women keep trying to tackle me after I have already …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:28 AM
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Kind of absurd that ONE stat will somehow destroy all the other stats in the eyes of women because they want the entire package. I know it is a woman thing because gay guys are not bothered and are still interested in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:23 AM
2

Modern problems require modern solutions?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 04:02 AM
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Did you run into many women in your 30s who were desperate for kids and family but they were not suitable? I have dealt with a lot of them trying to score one even though the buzzer has already sounded, but even if I still wanted kids they would not be suitable so I was wondering if you experienced that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:48 AM
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Not limited to fatties that is how all women are in general now due to their minds being warped by OLD and social media. The only exception is older women because they were obviously not affected by it due to being older.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:43 AM
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But average men don't struggle in dating! Yeah because the men you think are average are not average.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:48 AM
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You are strong as hell, living in NYC which is one of the best places to date as a guy, and into chubby women with a big ass I don't think the confidence is the major reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:14 AM
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'I am far above average' 'below average looks' I am 6'2 and make a lot of money in a low cost of living area with according to women an above average personality so yeah I still consider myself above average. 6'2 and six figures combined puts me in the top 3% or so of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 01:44 AM
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I understand that happening, but that would not be anywhere near enough to explain how often it happens for average guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:50 PM
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Not enough babies being born means not enough people paying for your retirement and less tax payers overall. This one I consider to be on society though because they made having kids so expensive while at the same time wages have stagnated so hard over the past generation or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:02 PM
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I don't think it is self-imposed when I have had women state things like I was not tall enough when I am 6'2 or 200 pound women telling me I am not in good enough shape for them. How in the hell can a 5'2 women tell me to my face I am not tall enough and for her 6'3 is the bare minimum? I am already a foot taller than you what difference does an inch make? So no I don't think it is self-imposed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:44 PM
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It's not just you, people attract what they are. Let me get this right the reason she said to me about the waiter she hoped that N word didn't spit in our food is because I am the racist one not her? You do realize how preposterous that sounds right? So, why didn't you do the same ? Because the woman I was dating at the time wound up being crazy otherwise I would have gladly married her. Now years later she has tried to message me on facebook apologizing for how she treated me and trying to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:27 PM
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Tried cold approaches, tried online dating, tried dating friends or through friend groups, tried asking women friends if they had any single women friends the end result was always the same women are the problem either because of the issues they have or their standards are too high. The asking women friends one is a good example of this because when I asked the answer was either all the women they knew were married or if they did have single friends it was one of two scenarios the single woman h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:22 PM
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I attract gold diggers, crazy women, racists, morbidly obese women, and all sorts of similar things because of who I am? This is not only a silly statement it is a just world fallacy. This is just the kind of women you are stuck going on dates with/dating as a late 20 to early 30s guy because all the women that don't have obvious problems like being racist and did not have sky high outlandish requirements got married a long time ago. The leftover women in America are leftover for a reason and ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:17 PM
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I don't agree with the average man comment either. I think it's below average men who are struggling who try to convince themselves they're average as form of protective mechanism. I am far above average and still routinely got turned down by below average woman. Most guys are stuck dating a woman 2-3 points below them because women would rather be alone than date someone at their level which means a lot more men are trying to date than women. I am 6'2, 200 pounds, make six figures, decent muscl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:01 PM
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Because women don't care about men thread over that is all it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 09:56 PM
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I put in my 60+ hours a week already so that now I can take it easier and only work 30-35 why should I be punished for it? I put in that hard work already so that I no longer have to. If you were there during those 60+ hour weeks helping support me maybe then I would understand but I did that solo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 09:47 PM
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How are single dads better?! Most of the time they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 09:35 PM
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You aren't getting it the point is about morals or are you saying might makes right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:38 AM
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Why should guys follow the law and respect other peoples property if those people don't even view them or treat them as human beings because of their looks or height?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:58 AM
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This is three separate things and you are confusing them all 1. Treatment is not the same thing. 2. If you are the equivalent of that you should stop being so picky 3. It isn't just not dating it is an outright hatred for these guys that women have like some of these women in places like FDS or the pink pill posters that sometimes show up here have a level of hatred that if they were men I would think would have a crawlspace full of dead bodies of that gender they hate. They hate them just becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:57 AM
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Points for making me laugh with that comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:22 AM
2

Can't change your sexuality despite what the religious homophobes might think.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:46 AM
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Because being the rich employer sorting through resumes is oh so hard I don't know what I will do having to sift through these and pick and choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:51 AM
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I have experienced so much of this delusional hypergamy from women for example women 35+ expecting me to marry them be a beta bailout and give them kids, thinking my income which is three times theirs is barely enough or is not enough, women who weigh the same thing as I do stating I am not in good enough shape for them even though they get winded going up a single flight of stairs, women stating I am not tall enough at 6'2 even though they are 5'2. I can understand a little bit of wanting bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:49 AM
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Nope people get judged for everything. The only places it really matters is if they’re systematically discriminating against you. So for jobs, educational opportunities, providing medical care We know those sort of things are happening due to the halo effect and how heavily height correlates with income and employment. You are based on your avatar a black woman, but you think being judged for outward appearance is okay and acceptable? I don't even know where to begin with that. For dating that’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:38 AM
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And somehow that's women's fault? Women are usually the ones enforcing gender roles so yes I consider it to be womens fault. Now it has gotten so bad that a lot of women are even refusing to support their partner because that is as they call it emotional labor. The fastest way for a woman to lose interest in you is to cry in front of her nothing turns a woman off faster than showing weakness like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:32 AM
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While I understand this it doesn't make sense if women who are on a similar level refuse to date their counterpart. Isn't the perfect match for a 6'4 overweight woman a 5'4 short guy? A 300 pound woman dating a 350 pound man? Those sorts of things. Nature being unfair is why we have things like the ADA to prevent discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:30 AM
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They are okay with it because they have different gender roles and social pressures. For example, they can get emotional support from their friends and family, but men can't get it from those places and people they can only get it from a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:22 AM
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Out of all of the women I had sex with only one of them made me feel sexually wanted and desired the rest made it feel like it was something they only sometimes were forced to tolerate and were not actually sexually wanting or desiring me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:16 AM
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It should be part of the hierarchy of needs to have a partner and family so in my opinion it might as well be a death.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:14 AM
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I can't believe these women are actually arguing it isn't their fault for hating short or ugly guys. Who in the hell raised these women? Not treating people badly because of their outward appearance is how I was raised but here these women are actually arguing that sort of thing is a good thing. What makes it even more ironic is I notice a lot of these women are African American how does that work?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:08 AM
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If you are snorting so much protein powder you are shaped like the good year blimp it is not a good year.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:06 AM
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A starving person should not be arrested for stealing a loaf of bread especially when the local grocery stores formed a cartel and raised all their prices more than people could afford.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:05 AM
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Not their problem that is a you as an employer problem if you don't like it would you rather be one of us poor workers?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:39 AM
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If you roll that easily I suggest a diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:37 AM
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What I am saying is women have more power, frequently lie, have outrageous demands and then get angry when a guy lies during the deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:34 AM
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That describes one woman I went on a date with who was really good with angles and photoshop. I figured hey she is chunky but I can work with that and hopefully she has a good personality. I was wrong not chunky she was around 300 pounds, lived with her parents in a trailer, and smelled like cigarettes. She didn't have much of any personality at all either so no success on the good personality front. As bad as she may have been I think the other date I had where the woman called the waiter the N…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/05/22 12:31 AM
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Because guys can't turn it down that doesn't work for us and when we do we get treated badly because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:22 AM
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So the problem is short people having kids not that society and women judge short people or ugly people badly? You won't admit that is immoral to do? It isn't bad or morally wrong to hate ugly people or short people?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:20 AM
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Give them three things if they behave themselves a wife, a family, and a stable job that pays enough to provide for the first two things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:16 AM
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Since you brought that example up I will use it I did not work 60+ hours a week when I was younger to now earn a high wage with less hours when I am older only to be punished for that previous hard work. Why should I contribute the same amount of hours if I worked hard previously to be able to work less hours now and still out earn my partner? But overwhelmingly: we do not want to be your maid. But you still expect us to be your financial provider so that is not a fair trade now is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:13 AM
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Stop offering minimum wage and no benefits if you want better people to show up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:10 AM
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Sounds to me like you need to offer them more to stick around long term instead of leaving after the first paycheck such as medical benefits for example or a 401k match.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:09 AM
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A short guy should be angry for his father and mother being below 5'6? Yet again that is something outside of their control. Why do you keep blaming people for things that are outside of their control instead of admitting that women and society are the problem? Why is that so much harder to admit than blaming innocent people?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:06 AM
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So... Then they're excused for being decitful and lying... And then when people get hurt because they're decitful and lying and divorce happens/relationship ends they get pissy about it? Because the other person was already doing it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:04 AM
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Unless they are sugar babies I really don’t see this. Women expect to pay towards the mortgage/bills etc. I see it all the time. It isn't even limited to money when something goes bump in the night I am the one to go have to investigate what that noise was and see if someone is trying to break in. That is why I had to buy a shotgun that I kept next to my bed when I lived in a bad crime infested apartment complex and can now only have to keep it in the closet now that I live somewhere nice. And o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:04 AM
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I am old and likely going to die before that will make much of a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:56 PM
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Yes of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:55 PM
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That’s why the expectation of post millennials wanting 1950’s housewives is so insane… because they aren’t 1950’s men. They want the wife to not work, whilst they also get an awful wage and can’t support her (let alone children). How on earth that does work 😂 You see similar absurd expectations out of women though is the problem. They want their partner to be the higher wage earner while also helping them around the house and with the kids. They also refuse to do things like emotional support an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:54 PM
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Like the consequences of "setting standards too high" is no relationship. But somehow everyone here is like: setting the standards too high means I get to be a dick and lie to people because wahmen bad Because the women here say that no relationship is not an actual loss for them. Guys don't view it that way thus they are at the mercy of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:53 PM
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-You should be a nice guy and treat women like queens and surely you will find the one. Boy did I find out that one was a lie and many others like it. Still not as bad as the advice I got from women even in my 20s about be a nice good guy and find a good paying job and you will find a good wife that one sure backfired.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:53 PM
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It takes a village to raise a child does it not? Nice victim blaming me though despite this happening to lots of other men as well. Both your examples of genes and how one is raised are outside of ones control which means I have no culpability in this scenario. You are basically saying a guy who is 5'4 well that is his fault somehow he can't be mad at others for how they treat him for his height. What was he supposed to do? Go back in time and force his parents to give him growth hormones or tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:51 PM
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I am saying when one side refuses to make a deal and if they do make a deal bargains in bad faith can you blame the other for being deceitful? Turnabout is fair play if you want things to be better then act like it. For the record I am up front about it I just can't blame guys for not being that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:48 PM
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But like i said, I am speaking from the perspective of a woman who is the highest earner in my household and I love my husband enough to say that I value the 40 hours a week he puts in. Because I am not the kind of person who would look at some one who has come home from work and then kick my feet up and say "yeah well I earn more so chop chop" I had women do that even though they didn't earn more that is why I am so wary about it. I even had one woman I was not dating try and pull that stunt. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:42 PM
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Why does society get to imprison me if it has failed me like this? What gives them the moral right if they have utterly and completely failed?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:37 PM
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Then why should I behave ethically or legally?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:19 PM
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I want women to stop thinking they are gods gift to the world and stop acting like they can feel a pea through a thousand mattress's this in turn would mean they want to be with their actual equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:17 PM
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To me an 8 but I think to most people who prefer the more standard model look she would be average to a 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:44 PM
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My perspective is I worked 60+ hours a week when I was younger so I can now work less hours now and still make good money so why should I be punished for previous sacrifices? In my previous relationships I always did more housework and cooking than my partner did so I refuse to be taken advantage of anymore and 50 50 is the minimum I will tolerate. If you want to spend money with me on hiring a housekeeper to come every week or two I am fine with that, but I will not live in a filthy environment…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:42 PM
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This isn't an argument this is just you saying no you are wrong without actually saying anything about why the person is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:37 PM
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Ppd Men - that's dumb. Youre own fault women wanted equality. Should have stayed in the house, now you're doing both sucker! That isn't accurate why should I do housework 50 50 with someone who I outearn like three times over if I am paying most of the bills and keeping a roof over her head? That isn't equality that is you wanting extreme privileges and not being willing to do anything to compensate for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:32 PM
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Anything to avoid admitting how culpable and guilty women are for causing it because obviously women are perfect and can do no wrong. The lengths and mental gymnastics I have seen women go through to avoid betraying the sisterhood are absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:19 PM
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Retiring early somewhere warm and likely wind up banging cheap hookers is what I will be doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:33 PM
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Hobbies and entertainment that bring you happiness, watching women grow old and crying about not having children and asking where are all the good men, time with friends, and things like that. Sometimes the best revenge is waiting for your enemies to grow old and fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:02 PM
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Or do like I am planning on doing and leaving the country because you retired early so women and society don't get anymore of your tax money. Society and women have failed me so hard that I am willing to give up citizenship to hurt them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:59 PM
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Having results like this kind of destroyed my desire to get stronger so now I barely weight lift and mostly concentrate on going for runs for the health benefits and to keep the weight off. What is the point of doing something that time consuming and demanding if you don't get the reward from it? Would you keep going to your job if they stopped paying you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:55 PM
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Am I being gaslit? Are women now pretending they didn't say this constantly to men? Am I going crazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:45 PM
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I lost 100 pounds and put on a decent amount of muscle the only people who noticed and were impressed were gay men. Among women it just increased the quantity of them interested in me not the actual quality and that quality is extremely lacking. I should not have been surprised though women are insane and think if a guy stops being lazy and goes to the gym for 2 years they can look like a moviestar that is more PED than person and is on a massive water cut.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:43 PM
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In general fat women will not date fat men it is so absurd. I have even gotten turned down by women who weigh the same as me who said I was not in good enough shape for them. Lady you are literally a circle stop wanting the best Tetris piece. I can think of no better evidence of womens hypergamy than how fat women demand to date skinny or athletic guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:41 PM
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6'2, 200 pounds give or take 5-10 pounds in the winter/summer, try to go for a run when I wake up now that the weather is nice enough to do so, decent muscle. Even with these stats I have had women who literally weighed the same thing I do despite being a foot shorter tell me I am not in good enough shape or not tall enough. Bitch you get winded going up a single flight of stairs and you are expecting to date some athletic guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:37 PM
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I got them using me for months or sometimes a year or two until they eventually extract enough from me then they stop talking to me or I developed a backbone and told them no and suddenly they treated me like the bad guy or stopped talking to me. I felt like they used me like a plastic spoon and then discarded me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 11:13 PM
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You sound angry that women have standards. Having standards is one thing, but having absurd broken standards that they themselves would have no hope of meeting if it is the same thing or not having the equivalent is the problem. No one is saying it is bad to have a standard what is bad is that sort of thing. A woman 3 stating she deserves a 9 is wrong. A 200 pound woman demanding a 6'4 guy who is athletic is crazy. A woman making $40,000 demanding their partner make at least $120,000 is an entit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 10:45 PM
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I just don't get it women of older generations usually brought personality that was more pleasant to be around and homemaking skills, but modern women seem to bring nothing. Income? My money is our money and her money is her money. Support? Not a chance women refuse to support their partner now a days so many women here complain about having to do emotional labor or not wanting to be a mommy stating they don't want to be the one their partner goes to when he needs support because they only care …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 10:41 PM
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Thankfully she wound up being crazy otherwise I am sure I would have. Hard to go from dating someone who is a knockout looks wise that is incredibly compatible and wants to make you happy to what you get stuck dating normally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:56 AM
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Not the South bad but not like the Coasts so middle ground is what I would consider it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:52 AM
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Only child, all my grandparents are dead, and I already help take care of my elderly parents it is one of the reasons I have not left the Midwest even though dating here as a man is terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:11 AM
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I have had women friends ask me why I am single I am a nice guy with a good job so I ask them to take over my dating profile for a couple days or a week. So far none have lasted beyond 24-48 hours and they wind up depressed, angry, or thinking their phone is broken or the app but none will admit women are the problem in dating. It is almost funny seeing them go into the experiment so confident and happy and within 48 hours they are shattered.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:05 AM
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I understand where you are coming from, but why would they publish data that makes men less likely to use the site?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 04:33 AM
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Imagine all the womens pokies you don't want to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 04:29 AM
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Is that why more than half of all children born to millennial women are born out of wedlock?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 04:28 AM
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The only solution I see coming from feminists camps might as well be a final solution for how much they hate men and somehow most women seem to support them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 04:26 AM
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Just because someone is that fat does not mean they are a heavy weapon.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 04:22 AM
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I prefer not being stabbed by angry crazy women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 04:16 AM
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Based on that reply I can all but guarantee you that post will never be posted and if it is it will be deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 04:15 AM
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Think about that wish for a moment and realize that the monkeys paw just curled.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 04:08 AM
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OKC users are not a representative sample of humanity. Right just single women so might as well be the same thing for single guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 04:06 AM
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OkCupid did this ages age with income https://imgur.com/a/s8lNaXc
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:04 AM
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Almost as if they think if you ran outside then one in two women would spot you and give chase like it’s that simple and literal. God I don't know why it is so hard for you men go outside and touch grass because whenever I go out and be social I have loads of men hitting on me that must mean it is the same way for men obviously they are just as wanted as women are. That really is how women think apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:02 AM
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I call it not wanting to be hurt again especially if studies validate how you feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 12:30 AM
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And then if you bring it up with them they somehow say it is not that important which is like having a filthy rich person tell a poor person that money isn't everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 11:56 PM
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Why doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 11:55 PM
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These men that think this way? Im not surprised women avoid them like the plague. Ask yourself what kind of experiences they had to go through to reach that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 11:50 PM
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Try watching some of the non regular women posters here such as the pink pill crowd some of them if they were men I would assume they were future serial killers that are gonna have a crawlspace full of dead bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 11:49 PM
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The more time you spend around women you realize how often they say the same thing you are saying only in a slightly different way, but will still argue you are wrong or an asshole for talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 11:47 PM
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A couple weeks ago someone here suggested that so I looked into it in my city and I noticed it lists who signed up for what. Only a single meetup had more women than men a dancing class even the book club was 80%+ men. I wasn't even holding out much hope that it would work out and instead thought maybe I would pick up a fun new hobby or something, but when the gender ratios are that bad I might as well keep doing what hobbies I have now what a sick joke of a suggestion. I don't know why the hell…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 09:46 PM
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Or do they want to sew their wild oats AKA piss away their twenties? Depends on the guy I knew tons of guys in my 20s who wanted to settle down and start a family and were working hard to find a stable high paying job. Women completely ignored these guys instead going for fuckbois. I might be biased being in the midwest though because settling down and having kids is more desired here at least among the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 08:20 PM
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I can not believe the amount of women who have tried to date me now that we are in our 30s and now desperately want kids. Why the fuck did you refuse to date guys like me in our 20s when we wanted kids? Why did you wait until you were 35 years old? Who has the energy to chase down a kid at 40+ much less 45+? Who wants to be awake at 3 AM on a work night with a sick kid in their 40s? What about all the health risks to the mother and children as well? It honestly makes me more than a bit angry wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 08:17 PM
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Sidenote: it's fascinating how women are in so much denial about this six comments deep later they will admit it, but you are still somehow wrong. Then it starts over yet again with a different woman poster.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 07:42 PM
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Kind of hard to have a family if women refuse to date you isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 07:38 PM
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I now know to take that compliment from women as the insult it was meant to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:22 AM
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Wow everything you have said is not only wrong even some of the other women here have eventually started admitting it is wrong. Who the guys is does not matter compared to his looks I don't understand why some people like you keep trying to argue that is not the case. It’s got nothing to do with men not being “good enough” it’s got to do with what turns us on sexually and what doesn’t. This isn’t within our control. It’s not our fault if we’re much more aroused by emotional stimuli than physical…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:08 AM
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How often do you think this happens in real life where the message is the equivalent of "eyy bby wunt sum fuk" and it works (after just that message, apparently)? Never done fishing experiments before have you or read about them? You don't even need to do that either spend enough time in bars and clubs and you will see it happen if you prefer face to face.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:51 PM
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The attraction either arises in our bodies - or it does not. we can’t help it?! Lol. Would you find it acceptable that a guy said we can't help it we are horny I had a boner and fucked her even though she said no and was crying. I have a strong biological drive bro. You would call him a rapist among other things right? So why do we have to accept "this is just the way women are" especially when we know historically women were fine dating, marrying, and loving their equals but now they are refusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:02 PM
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To be clear, this whole discussion isn't even specific to the gym. It applies to careers and any other aspect you as an individual may take seriously to a point where it takes priority over them. I am decently successful, but that also meant that starting in my mid 20s I had responsibilities that didn't end at the 9-5 horizon. Women love a man who makes fat stacks, but they get upset when you have to spontaneously fly around the world to take care of business because somebody else shit the bed. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:55 PM
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I had women who were around 5'2 tell me I was not tall enough when I am 6'2. Women are so insane I don't even know where to begin.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:13 PM
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I don't know how women can keep posting stuff like this and keep a straight face. They will say womens standards are not to high, but then say men who want not even what they bring to the table but less than that are entitled. How in the hell does that work?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:10 PM
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Talking to women? Online dating studies? I don't know what more you want I have given you this information before and if you have been around this subreddit more than a couple weeks you have seen the women here stating how picky they are or even sometimes giving numbers and examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:43 PM
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Do you notice some of them get mad at how much time you spend at the gym or how healthy you have to eat even though they like the body? I am hardly a gym rat and even I ran into that and the gym rats I know get so frustrated with women doing that. How can you practically salivate at my abs but then get mad I won't eat the pizza you ordered. The vast majority of women went through life on easy mode where things were handed to them and don't understand how hard work and sacrifice gives results.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:40 PM
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I could understand it is these guys were ugly or assholes or had something else obviously wrong, but these are average and decent guys who are struggling like a three year old trying to do calculus.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:37 PM
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They find so few men attractive that it reaches the point of absurdity. Women here when discussing it usually state numbers like 5% or less even though obviously the chances of them all being in that 5% themselves is astronomical. Now obviously not all of them agree on that 5% but it seems to add up to around 20% when you look into the overlap which mirrors the success rates and numbers we see out of online dating which acts as a microcosm of face to face dating. I don't know how else to describ…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:27 PM
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I have gotten similar temper tantrums out of women who think they are "settling" for me now that they are in their 30s and desperate for a bailout. They seem genuinely shocked and offended I text them I am not interested in a second date which leads to them insulting me or one having what was basically a temper tantrum in the middle of the restaurant when I told her I didn't want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 08:44 PM
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Women stop being so absurdly picky? Sure it is possible their is issues with the water or deeper in the culvert, but it makes more sense to address the obvious giant boulder issue first and it would even make diagnosing those other issues easier if they are actually issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 08:39 PM
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From what I can tell yeah. It isn't just them among the blue collar crowd which is more of what I grew up around it is around a third of men who have little to absolutely no luck in finding a relationship. How can a tech worker making 120k and an electrician making 80k in a low cost of living area both be unable to find a partner for years at a time? I would understand it if they were hideous or assholes, but these are average looking guys who in my experience are usually decent kind men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:52 PM
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The water is not going through the pipe to get to the other side. Or do you mean in dating? In that case not enough couples are being formed, not enough babies are being born, and too many men are single miserable, hurting, and lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:50 PM
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ey bby wunt sum fuk? sploosh here is my address She totally required an emotional bond before sending her address.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:09 PM
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Well in that case, I think the real bottleneck is the difference in the % of men that women consider physically attractive vs the % of women that men consider physically attractive. I don't know how women can on one hand say it isn't a problem but then also state things like they find 95% of men not attractive enough. It is like we are dealing with a culvert that has a giant boulder in front of it but women go no that isn't the problem the water is the problem or their is a problem deeper in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:08 PM
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Tech, Midwest, and most of them are in their 20s to early 30s. Even when I was attending university I saw similar laughable dating results from the men in STEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:54 PM
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If you are average looking, have a decent job, have goals in life, have decent social skills and you dress well. You have a very good pack to start with. Is that why half my coworkers that have met those requirements have not had a relationship in 5+ years? Ridiculous claptrap.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:28 AM
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Been there done that the result was the same insults and being dismissed and then attempting censorship if it is one of those kinds of sites.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:23 AM
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Kids say all sorts of weird and dumb things it is just part of being a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:48 AM
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Where do you live that has the hot women shopping at Wal-mart? Where I live it is Whole Foods and the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:46 AM
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I can understand her insecurities and jealousy, but it is a five year old come on now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:37 AM
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Last two health issues I dealt with one of which required hospitalization only one woman cared the rest could not even pretend and guess who that was my mother. I was literally going through a cancer scare and the women I knew at the time could not even pretend to have any empathy towards me or kind words. Most of these women I had shown nothing but niceness, kindness, and empathy even over small crap, but when something big like a cancer scare came up? Nothing. wHy DoN't MeN gO tO tHe DoCtOr Mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:11 AM
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I don't think they are surprised most just don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:54 PM
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Yet again proving that hookers are cheaper in the long term than marrying the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:23 PM
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This post is red pill af and it is a lot of what I have seen myself especially where women go for things like fancy cars and signifiers of wealth over actual wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:20 PM
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I can't think of a single looks level category where the woman doesn't have multiple times more options than the man except for men and women in the 1-2 category which makes up an incredibly small percent of the population. That category from what I can tell is basically the same across genders so I have sympathy for women in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:11 PM
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Do you have friends? The women friends that when they didn't believe how hard dating was for me an average guy who they thought was a nice guy with a good job that is also tall so I challenged them to take over my profile which led to them being depressed, angry, and thinking their phone was broken? Or are we talking about the women friends who ask how I am still single but when I ask if they have any single women friends reply with no or if they do have them they either have issues they don't w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:08 PM
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Panty status of Genesis 7:17 confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:19 PM
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Didn't the moderators confirm this saying guys rarely ever report something but women do fairly often? I forget the exact post but I remember that being the sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:17 PM
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Still an easy 7.5-8. What is her genetic heritage/where is she from?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:16 PM
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My money is our money and her money is her money is shockingly common.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:12 PM
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Hey women remember when you didn't understand why guys especially guys like me don't care about our partners income? This is why. Women like her that make good money come with increased lifestyle expectations expecting me to enable them to live in luxury and it is a case of my money is our money and her money is her money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:11 PM
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Doesn't make a difference it is still as the other poster put it It’s 6’4” millionaire Chad meme or GTFO. Even the women here will admit in day to day life they find 5% of men or less attractive. 90% of the problems in dating come about because that is how women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:54 PM
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So are you willing to admit now that women don't find 80% of men unattractive and there is nothing wrong with modern women. No because in my experience it means if they date them then they will treat them like shit because they think the are settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:43 AM
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Millions of men feel your type of pain. I’d wager about 80% of men. I would say dating is just not worth trying for the bottom half of men but I don't know about 80% of men. Shame society tries to gaslight the men about it being their personalities being the reason they’ve been shat on and ignored and mocked. They try and tell me I am mentally ill for pointing this out or tell me it is because of my personality but other women keep telling me I am a nice guy it feels like gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:31 AM
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According to the Washington Post 72% of young men have had sex in the past year. So the vast majority of men are able to find a sexual partner. From what I remember of that study it was a question of if you got laid even once in the past year which is hardly a metric for a relationship. Getting laid once a year is like the absolute bare minimum and is equivalent of saying a person on life support in a coma with no brain activity is alive sure they are technically alive, but in reality? Vegetable…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:28 AM
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No it’s not bc unlike money you don’t need women to survive in society. Men do because of our gender roles for example we can't get emotional support from other sources besides from a wife and we also get heavy societal judgement for failing to get one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:40 AM
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Also you act like you’re gonna die if you’re ever single which is a little pathetic This is like a rich person telling a poor person money does not matter. It matters a lot and it especially matters if you are poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:26 AM
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How are womens looks thresholds ridiculous? You can’t decide what people are or aren’t attracted to. If you are a 5 and think you only get to date a 9 that is ridiculous. We know women somehow think 80% of men are below average despite that being obviously statistically impossible. If your preferences are so bad they warp reality and definitions of words then they are too high. Also I thought it was a given that if someone isn’t physically attracted to you it doesn’t matter how great their perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:24 AM
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Oh my god why does everyone keep trying to talk about this point that was not the only fucking problem I had with women. I was literally even physically abused if I get one more accusation about this I am going to scream.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:22 AM
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Guys don't have that option unfortunately if we only went for hot women we would die alone and guys can't handle that for a multitude of reasons such as gender roles, societal pressure, and tons of other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:10 AM
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But how do account for differences of opinions? What if a person is a 9 to me but a 1 to you If one person says a person is a 9 but 99 other people say they are a 1 that person is either wrong or an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:07 AM
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With the women asking for a guy like you, they’re talking about your personality, why would you want them to date you if they’re not attracted to you? I want them to stop saying it or actually say the truth that if you don't meet women's ridiculous looks threshold then your personality doesn't matter. I want them to be attracted to me because of my personality because I was told multiple times by multiple women that mens looks don't matter so I went through life thinking that so them saying oh s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:58 AM
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Why would you date someone you’re not physically attracted to though? Because when you are starving even gross food tastes better than starvation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:57 AM
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I have experienced all of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:55 AM
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From what I remember more men than women do interracial marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:53 AM
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Use enough peoples opinion and eventually you would reach a number just by averaging it out or using things like median if you prefer that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:51 AM
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I had a woman be physically abusive with me so no I was being practically literal with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:44 AM
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If almost all of the of the people in your life who hurt you and mistreated you shared a trait would you not learn to hate that trait they share in common? If they all had blue eyes I would stay away from people with blue eyes and probably hate them. What about after other people have the same experiences and you see ample studies showing it is that trait causing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:58 PM
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I agree I found that out the hard way never open up to women, never help them unless they have proven they can be trusted, never show them empathy or compassion unless they have shown you it, and never give them an inch.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:47 PM
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There is a stark difference between women intentionally treating you like shit. If that's your case then I can understand why you may feel this way. The issue is when other men think women not giving them attention or having sex with them means they never care and treat them badly. To use a metaphor I was chewed up, used, spat out, and basically left for dead by women. Even though I am 6'2 and a strong guy I even got physically abused by a woman. Second, you can't generalize most women from your…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:46 PM
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n example would be if a kid is always made of fun and called a loser to where it shapes him. Why would he not want those people to suffer in the future. Yeah like all the women and feminists who told me to kill myself or all sorts of other nasty things. If a person grows up poor then money is an issue and very important but to a upper middle class person money would not since they always had it. And that is how dating is for women they do it on tutorial mode and don't understand why guys are str…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:17 PM
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That they would just make up some story about how they really are the victim and dudes would have wired them up. I am lucky I fell for that enough times when I was younger that I no longer fall for it. For example a woman I dated kept getting abused and I felt sorry for her and fell hard for her she kept telling me things like she loved what a nice guy I was and how I treated her and you know what happened? She broke up with me to go back to dating abusive fuckbois. Now years later she is on fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:13 PM
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When they don't have a job and a girlfriend, society implodes. Liberalism has left the needs of young men out of the equation. And then blames them for the failures. It would be like blaming a 30% unemployment rate on people being lazy and entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:08 PM
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Not only are they basic biological drives the need for family, relationships, and children are one of the fundamental things that helps give us our humanity, happiness, and sanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:07 PM
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If these claims are accurate, there should be zero lonely, disenfranchised men, since men find a wider range of women attractive. A wider range does not mean all women and it would still require women to be willing to date them which doesn't happen because a woman who is a 3 will not date a male 3 unless he also has lots of money. Even the women here admit that they would rather be alone than date their equal especially if they themselves are below average looking so I have no idea why you are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:01 PM
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The vast majority of them have nothing to offer me their looks are gone, their fertility is gone, they can no longer pair bond, and rarely do they come with a good caring loving personality mostly it is bossy office working women who expect me to serve them. The ONLY thing most of them offer is their vaginas and I can go get that from a hooker or sugar dating for cheaper in the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:58 PM
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We know this is true from repeated studies. Time to give you a bunch of links showing how wrong you are. https://quillette.com/2019/03/12/attraction-inequality-and-the-dating-economy/ If these findings are to be believed, the great majority of women are only willing to communicate romantically with a small minority of men while most men are willing to communicate romantically with most women. found that women rate 80 percent of men as “worse-looking than medium,” and that this 80 percent “below-…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:50 PM
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Umm hmm. Men I'm physically attracted to are attractive. The others aren't. You are ignoring the points I made.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:48 PM
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If they had dated me 10 years ago and stuck around while I was making my money I would have practically handed over my wallet and let them live the rich housewife lifestyle even if we didn't have kids but that is then this is now. They had a chance to get in on an early investment round but refused even though it was only 5 dollars per stock and now that the stock is worth 200 they keep trying to offer 50 dollars because that is all they have after they squandered their money over the years. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:47 PM
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That was like a quarter of the women I dated so I am going to guess a lot more often than you especially when my standards were ridiculously low. It is a bit of a pointless question though because we know that womens standards for what they are physically attracted to are the problem and guys find a much wider variety of women to have acceptable looks. You women are at fault here not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:43 PM
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The problem with that is you only find most of them repulsive because your brain is broken and women think 80% of guys are below average. This is a you and other women problem not a guy problem. If the guy was in that top 5% you want you would be happy with the same offers and comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:41 PM
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I don’t know how to feel. Oh that is easy I know the answer to this question on the test what you do is write down that you are supposed to feel hatred and anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:38 PM
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This is chilling to read - this effectively is saying that your empathy towards your fellow man is reciprocal and thus if someone isn't "nice" to you then you not only don't care about them but wish them ill or won't treat them right. Yes that is exactly how I feel. The implication that people (women) are "not treating you right" by not fucking you? So basically you have admitted you only give a shit about and are willing to treat women who will fuck you like human beings. Jesus fucking christ a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:34 PM
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Sex you have to pay for isn't validating it only has the physical component.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:30 PM
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I usually figured out within a date or two they were just after my money and didn't actually care about me. One lasted longer but accidentally told on herself one day when she talked about me buying a 4000 sq ft luxury house for us even though she was making around $40,000 or so a year. I think at the time we had been dating less than or around six months so that and other little things made me know what she wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:28 PM
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A lot less money with a much lower cost of living. Those two are usually commensurate. Normally yes, but California salaries for tech workers are outrageous even compared to NYC tech worker salaries unless the guy is working in finance/stocks then it is similar. I live in neither of these places but just what I know from browsing places like levels.fyi and blind so maybe I could be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:59 PM
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While that is true, I find working together with a partner cleaning is a lot faster, easier, and more enjoyable than just cleaning for 1 even though it is literally twice the work. Unfortunately it adds up faster even if the amount of work is the same and if both people are working I think you are better off hiring a maid to help deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:56 PM
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I have noticed how much bigger even people of the generation below me have gotten. When I was a kid or teenager I was usually the tallest or second tallest in my class, but now a lot of the interns are the same height I am at 6'2 or only an inch or two below it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:53 PM
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I mean guys that hope to go the beta bucks route might be in favor of it for that reason, but usually guys go right (when they it's for that reason) is due to the lack of marriagable women. More lack of quality then quantity. I am not going to marry and financially provide for the kind of woman who was getting gangbanged by the hockey team while I was studying for a final that in the long term helped make me rich. this really makes women mad for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:47 PM
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People act shocked when I ask why I should care about or treat correctly people who never cared about me and treated me badly. Would you? No normal person would. If you were raised by abusive parents who frequently beat the shit out of you, locked you in a closet, and starved you would you not hate them as an adult? They blame me for metaphorically coming out swinging whenever I get locked in a closet once again.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:44 PM
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Similarly, it is also a choice to work in an industry that skews heavily male while also living in a state that skews heavily male: https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/sex-ratio-by-state Wait you are telling him to quit his job and or intentionally move to a different area that pays him a LOT less money.... just because women are too picky? Ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:42 PM
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Complete strawman but moving isn't realistic for a lot of men they have a job that gives them a better quality of life in that region than the same job in a different region or in my case the primary reason is they have obligations like having to take care of elderly parents. Are you telling me to abandon my parents who worked hard and sacrificed to raise me just for pussy? What kind of asshole would I be if I did that? I got more loyalty and honor than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:40 PM
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This is going to vary massively depending on where I am going and what I am doing that day and which city I am located in at the time. Back in high school and college I found a good 60% of the women in my age group attractive, but now that I am in my 30s I only found about 10% in that age category attractive because so many aged badly or chose to not stay in the Midwest. The days I visit NYC and to a lesser extent LA for work I will see more attractive women in a day than I normally see in a mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:35 PM
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Yeah the only thing you can do is search for those moments where you feel energized, alive or peaceful. I find those to be rather rare and hard to find. I have moments of them such as sitting on the balcony watching a thunderstorm especially if it is late at night and it is after a long day of work but the moments I felt happiest is when I am with a woman I love but well I am here so that is so rare it might as well be unobtainable. Lmao, who am I to try to be insightful? I'm only 26 lol. It mig…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:03 AM
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For me it is just the thought of oh god I am going to die I am about halfway through my life because when I was younger I felt invincible and that time had no hold on me. I think if I was religious it would be less of a terrifying thought but due to being an atheist I know I will be dead and nothing can change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:26 AM
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I sometimes think that is the case because in guys it seems to only add 1 maybe 2 points but women it seems to add a lot more and help keep them looking younger longer even more so than men. I see women at the gym in their 40s based on the fact they bring kids to the play center that look like they are in their 20s because they sweat hard while the kids are playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:40 AM
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I can get the single mothers but could you elaborate on the “elderly women who wants to retire” bit? In general women contribute a lot less to the tax system than they take out because they work jobs that don't pay as much for various reasons such as mens gender roles and women live a lot longer than men. This means women are a net drain on the tax system and men have to subsidize them especially in retirement which is especially bad if these same women are refusing to have children with the men…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:38 AM
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Like I said I find it terrifying and now understand why some people especially men go through mid life crisis's.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:33 AM
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Never seen em buy drinks but have seen them bake food for a guy that had only talked to them a couple times before. A guy I tutored back in university would have women bring him stuff like brownies or cookies they made even though he had barely talked to them or wait outside his class to pretend to run into him randomly. It was pretty funny being offered brownies because he was on a cut while I was tutoring him and finding out where they came from or seeing a different girl bring him some cookie…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:14 PM
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I find that face more than acceptable maybe my standards were lower than I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:09 PM
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I would do anything to go back in time and be young once again and the passage of time speeding up now that I am in my 30s terrifies me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:08 PM
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That is exactly what I was going for thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:00 PM
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I would sooner castrate myself using my bare hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:52 PM
1

Wow was it an old dryer? That is a lot of money for just one device that is about what running the air conditioner costs me in the summer for a pretty large condo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:49 PM
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I finally agree with a cautiontomorrow post. You're right, it's less about winning a fight and more about looking like you will fight back. Victimizers and criminals go after easier targets if you look and if need be act like you are the type to jam your keys in his eyeball and bite off his nose if he tries anything they will go for someone else. Like I'm a big guy and occasionally a woman will see me at night and starts acting scared. This just draws attention b/c otherwise I barely noticed her…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:48 PM
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Even if they are not as physically capable of fighting back like a man could teaching them to not freeze up is incredibly important for multiple reasons. I also find physical combat also teaches better self-control and helps with a person's self-confidence as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:18 PM
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Okay then why are you dating at all then? I have interacted with you before and you have said in another post you have no sympathy especially for men so why are you dating them? You don't get sexual pleasure out of them, don't like them, and have no sympathy so why?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:45 PM
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I hope you have many more happy years together.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:43 PM
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Not trolling but genuinely asking why do you think this is a strawman?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:43 PM
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Can't move on if there is no revenge or hope of improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:42 PM
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Existing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:41 PM
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Nothing like seeing a dude with two baby mommas who he isn't providing for knocking up a third and fourth woman. If that doesn't make a guy think women have horrible taste in men I don't know what would.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:40 PM
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Yeah they just had half their discussions being about how bad men are and most of their central almost religious like beliefs be about it such as patriarchy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:38 PM
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Moving the goal posts but I will keep arguing. Men have to pay far more in taxes than they ever get back and are working jobs where they are taxed more so it isn't a fair comparison. Guys get very little for what they put in and are just supporting women and are also having to pay far more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:37 PM
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So why are you dating men then? If it is all about sex in your opinion and you think vibrators are better why not date women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:35 PM
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Sorry that is really not what I mean. What I am saying is men are forced to pay taxes whether they want to or not through physical force, but only some people you are talking about in porn and escorting are being exploited that way others are doing this willingly. Nobody would pay taxes if it was not for threat of physical force, but plenty of people would do porn and escorting because they enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:33 PM
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I disagree with that, but even if I did why should guys not be wanted because they have a cock?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:32 PM
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Most people would consider it too young, but I don't care as long as it is consensual, the two of them get along, and enjoy each others company.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:30 PM
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As opposed to literally being forced to at gun point in every case? Everyone is a victim in one case but in the other only some of them are and rarely on the level of at gunpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:26 PM
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I should not need those things to be wanted I should be wanted just for who I am just like women are wanted just for being women and for who they are as a human being/person. If you are saying only pretty, successful, and rich people deserve love I don't even know where to begin with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:25 PM
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Rape threats are appropriate retaliation for women not wanting to date you? Women just want to be left the fuck alone and you somehow think this is treating you badly. Isolation and mistreatment is how you mentally break people. What you are doing is the equivalent of putting someone in solitary confinement and then sometimes taking them out to metaphorically beat them. Can you blame them for coming out swinging in the future and developing issues because of it? I don't blame women for becoming …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:23 PM
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I expect to be wanted at the very least I don't think that is too much of a request.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:12 PM
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Those are things freely done, but men don't have a choice but to be taxed and the government will take it at gun point. I know who is more exploited in the different scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:10 PM
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My understanding is different I would have to ask my financial advisor about it once again because that is not what I was told the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:09 PM
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They are mad because MGTOW drops out and stops benefiting society they expect you to continue participating even though the rewards are not given. Go pay for single mothers and elderly women who want to retire. Go die in war so the rich can profit. Go work a job you hate so we can steal your money. What? You refuse? Misogyny! Another part of it is the hatred towards women but that is like blaming people at an alcoholics anonymous meeting for talking about and hating alcohol. Most guys would be o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:08 PM
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Because it is better than being treated as at best invisible? To use the metaphor women drown in an ocean of water and men die of thirst in a desert. I know which of these two I would prefer because of a lifetime of being unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:03 PM
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If you don't want guys to be so fucking neurotic and crazy stop making them crazy and neurotic! You are doing the equivalent of shoving someone in a box and beating them then wonder why they are fucked up and lashing out when they come out of that box.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:54 PM
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesfinancecouncil/2021/11/03/when-might-renouncing-us-citizenship-make-sense-from-a-tax-point-of-view/?sh=104f9d4323fa No you don't if you do it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:38 PM
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I notice you didn't address men's role in making OLD an unattractive place for women to seek a partner. No comment on that? Half of that is caused by women being too selective which not only causes men to take the zero effort shotgun approach and means the rare guys they do go for is going to act like a pig. It also means even the guys who are not the more popular ones are going to develop worse behavior because they are more desperate and neurotic in the interactions with the rare women willing…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:37 PM
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https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/anythings-a-dildo-if-youre-brave-enough
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:21 PM
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For the right woman I would not have minded providing for her whether we had kids or not so something like paying for a meal was more than simple enough, but that was 10-15 years ago now we are equals in the relationship so you have to carry your own weight unless you bring something extra to the table. If you wanted the privileges of being treated like that you should have dated me back then now it is too late ladies literally a third of you admit to going on foodie calls getting free food even…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:19 PM
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I hate how quickly dryers destroy clothes but line hanging is just not viable in most cities and you need the right weather for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:16 PM
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I'm not saying that women should be obligated to have sex with unattractive men but likewise unattractive men should have the rights to their own money. I can't wait until I leave this country upon retiring and women stop getting my tax money. Someone who looks at me and treats me as at best as invisible should not be entitled to a lifetime of my hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:13 PM
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I don't know you at all, but I am glad she is doing better and hope things continue to get easier and better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:04 PM
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My gender neutral advice is go to the gym NOW it is much harder as you get older and it will help you age in grace instead of misery. It will also have the added benefit of adding a point or two to your looks if you are a guy. Take it seriously as well I have seen so many people half assing their workouts which makes me wonder why they bothered to show up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:02 PM
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Personally I just find happiness in the things that I enjoy like hobbies, spending time with friends, working to retire early, and the occasional delight in women being mad, hurt, or miserable such as enjoying how hurt they are when I go on a date and don't text them again after.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 04:25 AM
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Plus no sex for a year? Come on we all know none of them could last that long. The same women with zero sympathy for men struggling to date and have sex sure got angry and antsy during covid when they could not get laid for a couple months. They would explode if they went years like a lot of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 04:20 AM
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It was easier for me to go from poverty to being well off than it is to find a woman worth marrying that also wants to marry me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 04:13 AM
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Unfortunately, you are right some of the time that is how it happens. On the bright side it still prevents them from getting my money as a beta bailout.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 01:48 AM
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For those interested in the 30's power flip, it is the point where women beauties is waning and they are finally realizing the top 20% of males are not going to commit to them. These women will pick among the men in the 80% of males with best combination of wealth, status and agreeability (easy to manipulate) to choose for their mate. Many of these men will say yes to this and end up marrying these girls. Telling them no in my 30s and seeing the pain and anger they have because of it and knowing…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:13 PM
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I 100% know the only reason I am not a virgin is because I am 6'2 because other guys with similar nerd personalities I know who are shorter almost always struggled way more than I ever did.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:12 PM
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shorturl.at/eFGU1 try that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:06 PM
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The 666 is black pill. Most women aren’t expecting 6 feet tall, 6-figure earners. Not the point I am making I am using those examples because we can find the statistics for them easily that show what percent of the population possesses those traits. If I had numbers for the things you want in a man then I would gladly do the multiplication to find out how rare that is as well. I think you are also understanding womens preferences for height and income. Look at this old study OkCupid did back in …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:01 PM
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I think more couples would be a lot happier if they had a maid come every two weeks or every week. It is unfair to expect either party to be able to do that much cleaning if they both work and expecting the woman to do it is only going to breed resentment not to mention it is pretty sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:47 PM
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Which two? Guessing the cook and cleaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:43 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C5%ABniby%C5%8D
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:42 PM
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You would be surprised my overweight and or ugly women friends still get so many matches they could get fucked by a top guy with a six pack every weekend if they wanted. They could never date that guy in a million years, but being his self cleaning fleshlight is possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:41 PM
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More criteria doesn’t necessarily mean higher standards. High standards here typically implies that it’s a choice; such as the difference between saying “I want a man who is a few inches taller than me,” is still attraction based criteria but most would agree it’s a reasonable standard where as “I want a man who is 6’6” is a high standard. It means higher standards because less and less people exist that are going to have the combination of traits you want. For example if you want a guy who is 6…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:39 PM
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And the worst part is, she actually believes she's settling, and it's not where her actual SMV/RMV is. This makes for poor relationships. I have been mistreated by women who weigh the same or more than I do, are worse looking, and make half or less of what income I make because they think they are settling for me because of how women have changed over the past 15 years. If I am a 4 or a 5 and she is at best a 3 I am the one settling not her, but I am the one getting treated badly women are insan…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:28 PM
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Please don’t twist my words - I didn’t say women have higher standards, I said they have more criteria for attraction, as in, women’s attraction is more specific. Having more criteria means by default your standards are higher. If you demand 10 traits but men want 4 then your standards are higher that is just basic math.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:13 PM
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I think women are a lot more salty than men are they are the ones complaining about fuckbois, becoming single mothers, getting pumped and dumped, and all sorts of other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:02 PM
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Personality especially pleasant personality, stability and lack of drama, how they behave, ability to communicate and compromise while also expecting the same out of their partner, home making skills such as cooking ability, caring for others instead of just thinking of themselves, how they treat others around them especially examples like children, animals, people in customer service positions, and their parents. I have dealt with a number of women that I know whoever winds up married to them w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:01 PM
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No, one out of date OkCupid "study". Show me the others. https://quillette.com/2019/03/12/attraction-inequality-and-the-dating-economy/ If these findings are to be believed, the great majority of women are only willing to communicate romantically with a small minority of men while most men are willing to communicate romantically with most women. found that women rate 80 percent of men as “worse-looking than medium,” and that this 80 percent “below-average” block received replies to messages only…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:20 PM
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You do realize how ridiculous that sounds right? It is like calling someone born with disabilities stuck in a wheelchair a loser even though it was something outside of their control. Why doesn't he just try to walk harder? What a loser!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:16 PM
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What "evidence"? Lots of studies for example women rating 80% of men as below average being a really obvious one. I just see young men becoming more and more repulsive. Pornsick, passive, awkward, introverted. I also wouldn't be interested if I was a young woman today. You see similar issues out of young women, but guys are still interested in them so yet again this is womens fault and problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:11 PM
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No thank you I would rather bitch and complain and tell women how awful they are if my choices are to date a 300 pound woman living in a trailerpark with her parents that smells like cigarettes or be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:10 PM
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Which I suspect comes with reduced opportunity and reduced wealth. So you call people losers for things that are outside of their control?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:09 PM
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Individual women find a smaller number of men attractive and have more criteria for attraction Doesn't that literally point to the problem being women and your blaming of men being either wrong or pointless? Would you not develop body dysmorphia if womens standards for looks were so high for example? Would you not blame women for womens standards being too high when you say in literally the next paragraph they are high?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:08 PM
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I deal with that on a nearly daily basis with my best friend who I have known for around 15 years now and I can't say his sentiment is wrong nor can I blame him for being so nihilistic about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:01 PM
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Then women should stop acting like they are when arguing with me and telling me things. If you say women don't want protectors but then the very next day lots of other women say the opposite that first person should not have said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:00 PM
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You are underestimating what the above person said. Mens preferences for womens looks are much much much wider than the opposite and their will be a sizable portion of guys who will bring you home for most traits. The one caveat to this is those guys might not or will rarely be the top guys women want those guys tend to be much narrower in their preferences. My personal preference on weight is a number on a scale does not matter a woman weighing 200 can look better than one weighing 150 because …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:49 PM
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Almost always a big womans preference but women here keep telling me that isn't true. I love how women posters here keep contradicting each other such as one arguing with me women don't want men who are a protector and then we had like 20 comments from women the next day about how much women love guys who are protectors. It honestly feels like I am being gaslit sometimes here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:48 PM
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Thick thighs by far the gap does nothing for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:46 PM
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Bit too hot for my tastes and I would have to research it, but it is a possibility I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:44 PM
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What is KSA?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:39 PM
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Which comments are bad and shortsighted? One commenter stated that they basically just don't care how is that not bad and short sighted? That many men being single is a recipe for trouble if history repeats itself and it usually does and even if it didn't it would be bad because it is so self-serving it borders on mental illness. Most of the advice I've seen here has said that men should try to meet women through other means instead of OLD but if they do insist on using OLD as their primary way …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:38 PM
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Face it, you just need to grow up and face reality. We’re not going to imprison 150 million women because you haven’t been gifted a beautiful woman by the govt. I will pass on that I plan on retiring early and telling society to go to hell then leaving the country so not one more penny of my tax money goes to subsidizing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:29 PM
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You think men are up for being jailers again? And how will the modern West compete economically against countries that don’t imprison half its population? Currently we have too many workers and not enough jobs which is one of the things leading to lower wages so I am going to guess pretty well. Will men be okay with being poorer with unhappier partners, many of whom might emigrate to get away from this system? Most guys in my experience would gladly take on a provider role if it gave them a wife…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:04 PM
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Do you think you’re owed any job you want? You’re not. I think if I have a bachelors in the subject and years of experience I should get the job in that subject. If I can't get that chances are their is something wrong with employers not the person looking for a job. I would also not blame that person for being angry if he was told all his life he did these various things like attending college and getting experience that he would get a job but then not getting the job. You can't spend years tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:03 PM
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How are men the problem in your life? And if they are the only problem in your life consider yourself lucky most people have other problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:56 PM
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How can you have a loving relationship with someone who is with you only for your money ? We know previously it forced women to fall in love with men who were good providers. I don't know if it is stockholme syndrome, bonding over working together, or their preferences being shaped by society but either way it worked. Ideally we would not need to do this, but if women are so broken then it might be necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:55 PM
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So to deal with women I should become more invested in them? I did that already that just got my ass kicked by women it is better to emotionally shut myself down somewhat and be ready for pain because then when the pain happens I am more ready for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:54 PM
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Because those perspectives are so bad and short sighted it means they either don't care about men or didn't actually put any thought into it. It also mainly means they refuse to take any responsibility for their part in it despite ample evidence they play the largest role in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:52 PM
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If you can't get a woman of the caliber you think you deserve, you're clearly not the caliber of man you think you are. If you can't get the job you want that you know you are qualified for, you're clear not the caliber of worker that you think you are. Sounds pretty silly saying something like that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:50 PM
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Third world quality but so expensive even with insurance you think they have the gift of immortality they are selling. At least if you go to the developing world you get what you pay for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:47 PM
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At a certain point you can stutter, anoy, be sexist and harsh whatever - she does not listen anyway. The real hurtful thing that I have had happen multiple times is they literally forget I even exist for example if I am in the same empty class room together and we are both studying they get up to go to the bathroom or take a break or something and turn off the lights because they forgot you are there. Having them be startled because they forgot you were there. Saying stuff out loud when talking …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:46 PM
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Almost every piece of evidence we have points to the problem in attraction being women in this case namely that women are far too picky and think far too highly of themselves so I am pretty sure the fault is with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:43 PM
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It asked nothing of the sort the exact question was What do you think is the solution to most of the guys struggling immensely with women It is asking for solutions not saying it has to be either side that is just what the women immediately reacted with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:41 PM
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So was I but they didn't care so I will ask instead what do they bring to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:38 PM
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So, sex/marriage out of economic necessity, just like in the good old days, is cool with you? If that is what it takes to rein in womens rampant greed then so be it. I would hope this sort of thing would be unnecessary but like a drunk who keeps drinking and driving they have proven they can't handle the freedom and responsibility and it will kill someone someday unless we take their license and car away from them. I thought men wanted women to want and like them, but I guess not — grudging duty…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:36 PM
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I was that guy in my 20s working near minimum wage jobs while also attending university and a lot of my male friends are stuck in that scenario so I know what it is like. I suspect a lot of those friends are going to commit suicide over the next 10 years and their is absolutely nothing I can do about it because even if I financially helped them it doesn't actually provide the fulfilment that is lacking in their life and just removes on aspect of what makes it horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:30 PM
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But those things are rarely ever caused by men that is the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:27 PM
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Are you one of those guys that make 6 figures, but do absolutely nothing with it? Like you just work all day and not put any of that money into getting better? Exactly because I get enough gold diggers as it is. Instead of buying a fancier car I invest it so I will be able to retire in my 40s. If my partner wants me for my money or for what is caused by money such as dressing nicer then they don't actually want me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:26 PM
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Why am I not surprised the answers so far have been I don't care about anyone else but me, it isn't actually a problem, it is mens fault, and the like. Solutions? no it isn't actually a problem, but if it was it is mens fault what ridiculous nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:33 AM
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You're equating "price gouging" with not fucking you enough. Is your answer that the government step in because you aren't getting laid? Which women should we force to fuck you? For the love of god it isn't about mainly sex it is about relationships sex is just the easiest to measure way of going about that. I don't see a solution in all of your bitching, only an identification of things you see as problems with society (but not yourself). Personally I think the easiest solution if social engine…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:30 AM
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It will probably wreak utter havoc on civilized society in the long run, but that'll be future generations' problem to deal with. I expect that will happen over the next 25-40 years potentially less, but chances are I will be dead of old age by then.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:14 AM
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I suspect I will make a lot of foreign women angry I won't marry them once I leave the US and retire as a rich guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:59 AM
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Funny how the most successful men I dealt with were some of the most sexist I ever dealt with. Must have been a coincidence they were also the best looking. I saw them do and say things that if I said I would either be in prison or dead because women found other guys to beat me to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:55 AM
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I don’t see a problem. Why should I care about anyone else? That is your response to this? Why are the women here somehow even more lacking in empathy than women in real life? I didn't even think that was possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:53 AM
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If a man is struggling in dating he should earn more money, work on his looks, and work on his social skills. Increase your stats and level up, do it for yourself but better and more dating options will come along with it. Did that went from being poor to making six figures and lost 100 pounds then put on some muscle you know what difference it made? The quantity of women interested in me went up but the quality stayed the exact same feces pile it was. Ask other guys who lost weight or became ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:51 AM
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Education doesn't mean she has a better personality, intelligence, looks, is more loyal, treats me better and in my experience if they go beyond a bachelors they are going to be a pain in the ass to deal with. Women with a college degree also initiate 90% of divorces between them and the man with non college educated women it is "only" 60% of the time so if anything they are less loyal. I also don't care about her money either so what does them having attended college do for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:48 AM
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Filtering fuck boys? Make them pay for all upcoming dates, no date less then $100. They’ll be gone by noon And what do we get for that 100 dollars?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:39 AM
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Sure they could, because they're still playing that impossible numbers game I spoke about. Those desirable men would only be able to commit to one woman. All the other women gunning for him will inevitably sabotage themselves (in terms of racking up n-counts and failing to "filter fuckboys"). I don't think this would change as much as you would hope due to modern women. These modern women would rather be the other woman for a married top guy than date someone on their level some of the women her…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:38 AM
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The market chooses who is a 3 and who is an 8. If an item is worth $100 to enough people, it's not up to you to say it's not worth $100. We live in a society where each individual has the right to choose what they want, as much as you complain about the relative values. You know what living in a society means? You can't be greedy and do things that fuck up the market like price gouging during a pandemic for example. If you only care about yourself and it hurts society we will stop you and rightf…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:21 AM
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I think this statement is the crux of your issue. You legitimately consider the relationship "us vs them", and I can fucking guarantee you that women pick up on that. I don't think relationships are that I think dating is that. I think relationships should be equals and should be about supporting one another. You are also blaming me for developing a negative attitude after bad experiences would you go back to the restaurant that keeps giving people food poisoning and has given you it? No you wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:18 AM
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Also i don't want to marry someone that is broke, alimony too much of a risk. But if a girl is giving me the majority of her youth, well that's a trade off i can see making. I agree I would not have minded my wife being a stay at home housewife maybe even if we didn't have kids if she gave me her youth and treated me right, but now women in their 30s keep going on dates with me expecting me give them that housewife lifestyle with kids and everything. Too damn late for that if you wanted that you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:57 AM
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That's actually, weirdly, a fair point. I'm effectively using a capitalistic approach to my explanations of dating, and we do expect the govt to help non-capitalistically with unemployment as your example shows, so I get where you're coming from here. That being said, relationships are a pure version of capitalism in a society that doesn't require relationships and our expectation of employment is not purely capitalistic. Thank you for understanding where I am coming from and what I am talking a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:01 AM
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Personally, I rarely care what my partner has accomplished it does not change who they are as a person it is just something they have done, nor does it change how they treat me or my day-to-day life, so I don't care about it. I know that sounds harsh, but it just doesn't give me anything and usually them being more accomplished comes with more downsides. I care more about who she is as a person and how she treats others especially me than if she has a masters degree and is making lots of money e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:44 AM
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If women’s standards are to high for you, that means you don’t measure up. Harsh but true. You moved the goalpost from well men are the problem to well so what if women have too high of standards but I will argue this anyway. If women who are a 3 expect to date an 8 I am obviously not going to be good enough that isn't the point the point is they are a 3 expecting an 8! It would be like someone offering minimum wage for someone with 20 years of experience and a PHD that is what the problem is. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:36 AM
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They grew up spoiled and were told they would have a fairytale life by feminists then reality hits them in the face and they can't handle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:52 AM
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This is the worst one I have seen in a long time. She is complete trash, not good looking, has kids, and is demanding some guy pay to date her. If she was not so overweight and less trashy looking she could be cute, but she isn't and the rest of her is such a disaster and she is so entitled who would pay money to date that?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/05/22 12:50 AM
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Not having maintenance take weeks or months to fix stuff that was beyond my capabilities is one of the reasons once I had enough money I moved out of cheap apartments in bad neighborhoods to nice ones in well off neighborhoods.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:23 AM
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Why bother posting this? Women will never care about men even when it comes to suicide so posting statistics will not change who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:22 AM
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Of course same way I would tell a woman friend the guy has a history of cheating or being abusive or being a dickhead to his partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:21 AM
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People who tell the truth are usually considered assholes even if they are right regardless of if they are actually an asshole or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:17 AM
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1/3 of young men being celibate for a year is no one’s fault but theirs. 1/3rd of people being unemployed for a year is no one's fault but theirs. That doesn't sound very good does it? So why do you think it is okay for men to be dealing with this but if it was jobs you would be up in arms. I don’t get why you immediately jump to blame others for your failures. Because multiple studies have shown the problem is women not men. Men are much less picky than women are not just for looks but other st…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:14 AM
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Agreed I was told by the blue pill people work hard so you can find a good job and be a nice guy that got me absolutely destroyed by women and when I point that out they say well then you are just not a nice guy or some other dumb fucking rationalization. That makes guys like me go look for the actual answers and better advice. If you want guys to follow the blue pill make it actually work instead of them experiencing so much loneliness or if they do date women then pain instead, but the only wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:10 PM
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No I did not read it that way I am not stupid what I am saying is that if that is the litmus test and that many guys are still failing even something as basic as that then something is deeply wrong with women and dating. If you can't even get to the point of your sex life being equivalent to a person in a coma with no brain activity what is going that wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:04 PM
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They also don't want him to spend a lot of time at the gym or to eat healthy. They want their partner to eat cake with them but if he says no because that doesn't fit his macros and won't give her the body they want they get mad. They are actually worse than the cake eating quote because they are cake eaters who are mad about someone else not eating cake with them that they also want to have the cake too not just themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:31 PM
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I would hardly consider getting laid at least once a year to be much of a sex life that is like saying someone in a coma on life support with no brain activity is still alive technically that is true, but in reality no.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:28 PM
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I'm glad we base our opinion of women on a quote from a comedy T.V. show about a misanthrope. Not the only source of that sentiment or quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:26 PM
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what is asshole behaviour? Pooping and farting mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 08:38 PM
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So what does this say about women that being smart and studying them and relationships actually makes things worse with them or at the very least lowers your opinion of them? The quote about not trying to understand women because they understand each other and hate each other comes to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 08:36 PM
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There are also other studies like how a third of men aged 18-30 didn't get laid once in the past year and this is in a survey where guys would likely exaggerate how many partners they had so I think you are just mad that science says you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 07:18 PM
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Performance artist is someone not talented enough to be an actor and not pretty enough to be a model but far crazier and self-centered than the two combined who is desperate for attention.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/05/22 06:31 PM
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if the first thing a girl has to say about you after you hang out is that you're chivalrous or "such a nice guy" then you dun goofed. Take that like the insult it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 12:20 AM
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In nursing homes because women live longer than men or after large wars that kill large portions of men such as WW1 and WW2. Your options are sandpaper dry granny pussy or having 20%+ of men of your generation dying that is what it takes for women to be less hypergamous. There are also some brief moments in your 30s if you are willing to settle down with the village bicycle and be a beta bailout, but who wants that? Would you handover your paycheck to someone who got gangbanged by the hockey tea…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:28 PM
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I don't know what you are saying has to do with that linked post?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:16 PM
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Thank you for your input and the long post. I also fully agree that as a society for a long time the mental health of men HAS been ignored and men have been taught to stick their feelings in deep dark places that they are not allowed to touch. That sucks and its horrible for the mental health of men. But, with this new generation that is changing people are talking about "toxic masculinity" (yes I hate the phrase too but it describes what I'm talking about) and the effect of the pressure that so…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:46 AM
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I had another person who is on the opposite said I made some good points so I think you are just mad I used your own mindset, thoughts, and theories against your kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 02:09 AM
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I feel like this as a man. I don't care about her boob or butt size, but I do need to be attracted to her and the face to me is frequently the deciding factor that can nudge someone from a maybe to a yes or a no.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 01:21 AM
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Understand a lot of people are just as nervous and shy as you are so don't be so self judgemental about it. Keep your dorm room door open and if someone asks if you want to do something social go for it even if you are not super interested. The one exception to this though is prioritize your studies and get that done before all the socialization, but taking breaks while studying is fine. You are at the last time of your life where you are surrounded by similar aged people so make the most of it …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 01:17 AM
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but I also won’t say that all men are like that either (well not so much anymore I’m a work in progress). Those wounds take a long time to close if they ever close at all unfortunately. Therapy helps lol. I don't think that would help most men because therapists tend to either lack empathy or have been heavily influenced by feminists. I think most guys like me would soften a lot if we just found one unicorn to date who treats us right because that would likely be our equivalent. I think the soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 01:12 AM
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Reddit needs more free speech across the board for EVERYONE 👍 But think of the rich investors who won't profit as much then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 12:30 AM
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I think it is more that you can't turn a hoe into a housewife than alpha fucks beta bucks but that was a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 12:29 AM
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Thank you that is the kind of response I was hoping for even if I still disagree with it because you explained why someone should humanize with another kind of person who has previously hurt them. I think the two of us can at least somewhat emphasize with each other because of our bad experiences even if we are on opposite sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 12:20 AM
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It's behind a paywall but going from that assumed title Rob and I were together for 12 years before we decided to open our marriage. It happened not that long after we had our last child. For most of our relationship, I’d been very focused on my career and then motherhood, without much time to think about my sex life. Once we were done having kids, my sex drive came roaring back. We loved each other very much but we’d never been a perfect match in terms of sexual compatibility. I told him that I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 12:15 AM
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Meanwhile, when black people (who have actually been oppressed historically) take this view towards white people, the screaming about "REVERSE RACISM!!!!" is endless. Considering the fact that the Venn diagram between these people and the manosphere is a circle inside a larger circle, I'd be 0% surprised if you're one of those people. All manosphere are racist got it that must be why the primary reason I refuse to vote republican is because they are racists I am a racist who hates other racists.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 12:06 AM
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A 5 guy doesn't get as much attention or potential suitors as a woman 3 or even sometimes 2 from what I have seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:55 PM
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Pillow princess starfish who expects me to eat her out to multiple orgasms and do all the work seems to be the norm. The only woman I have had sex with who was the opposite of this was a crazy woman. God I miss her even though I don't miss the crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:54 PM
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Just a day ago one of the women in this subreddit told me women don't want men who are protectors and don't encourage guys to act that way. Nice to have evidence someone was wrong literally the next day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:52 PM
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There is also lots of evidence of this in studies on the halo effect from what I remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:48 PM
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Because some random person who shares similarities with someone who hurt you is not the person who hurt you. They all take part and all benefit from it so I view them as all guilty. I'm a black person in America. My ancestors were treated as literal property- beaten, raped, worked to death. To this day, I live in a world where there is a risk of being murdered by those who are supposed to "protect and serve" the community and my murderers receiving paid leave. If I committed a crime, however min…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:45 PM
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To me she is a 3 and on a bad day she would be bordering on 2 yikes and the husband is a 4 who might be an average 5 if he was not bald or was 5 years younger. The absurd part is she probably feels like she is settling and he has to be a beta bucks. Just think this is what you will have to settle for as a nearly average man once you hit middle age.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:38 PM
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Yes. That doesn't answer the question of why? Why forgive and not punish the people who not only don't want or care about forgiveness but are actively still hurting you. Do you think that Jews hate the Germans today? That the Chinese hate the Japanese today? The Hutu and the Tutsi live side by side in Rwanda now, and the genocide was only 28 years ago. A lot of jews were angry and they vowed never again which is why Israel is so militant. The Chinese tend to hate the Japanese if they experienced…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:30 PM
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This is a bit off topic but I don't understand why we should do this? If we were not viewed and treated as human why should we view and treat them that way? Especially when they continue to do that and have not changed. Would you tell the Jews to view the German people as human beings after what happened? The Chinese view the Japanese as human after Nanking?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:16 PM
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And, men release far more bonding hormones like oxytocin during intimate activities than women do But women don't understand why guys treat sex like a need and have so much more of a drive. It basically is a need for us!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:13 PM
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As opposed to the women here using insults and the like? The guys here at least post studies and use basic logic instead of just insulting people. I have seen so many threads where the original poster posts an argument and only 1 or 2 women actually argue the rest just sit around insulting the dude and doing similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:10 PM
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In fact isn’t that a major complaint from men on this sub? That some women go for men who have the right stats on paper, men who have money and resources, rather than men who provoke visceral sexual attraction. Which yet again what does that say about women? If they are making such bad decisions that are obvious that should be saying a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:08 PM
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I find that unlikely given how many more men use online dating than women the more people you add the more wider variety you in theory should be getting. Now their is a bit of a self selection effect going on, but the exact same self selection effect would happen with women opting into online dating as well. Face it women are just pickier than men about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:06 PM
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If this is true doesn't it say more about women than it does the people using facts and logic? People who are trying to study and use logic are worse off than people who don't study and don't use logic? What does this say about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:07 PM
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That isn't the point though you are comparing men to women which isn't really applicable if most people are straight. If you have 100 guys but somehow rate 80 of them as below average it means your perception of reality has been warped because you no longer know what the average guy looks like. You and your mind are the problem not the men. This is a separate topic but since we are on it apparently the same gender that in the 90s and 2000s complained endlessly about men getting warped perception…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:00 PM
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While that is true it would not explain why men rated women much better and on a standard bell curve when they come from the same selection pool of online dating profiles. The same could be said about the womens profiles about losing weight, grooming, wardrobe, etcetera but they were still rated much less harshly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 07:34 PM
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Another good example of this is how if one of her friends husbands does a certain thing or makes a certain amount of money she expects you to do that same thing or make that same amount of money as well. Did you hear Sarah went to France with Jim twice last year? Why can't my husband do that? She is dating a guy who is 6'5? Why am I stuck dating a 6 foot guy? In my experience you don't have to beat the top guys, but you have to be better than what her friends can get even if her friends bring a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:20 PM
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I had two women tell me no so I obviously backed off but later told me I didn't try hard enough. I am not doing something horrible like that and risk going to prison just because you want to play games! Blame other women for doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:11 PM
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I have to ask where you live? Very few of the male students I knew studying STEM had girlfriends and even now half of my coworkers have not had a relationship in 5+ years.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 10:38 PM
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The wages for most jobs in America are laughable compared to the cost of living and some other countries are even worse. It is like the employers have not looked at the cost of rent, houses, or food since the 1980s.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 10:36 PM
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If I ever get into a long term relationship once again I will have gotten snipped by then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:44 PM
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Hard to say I would look at what and who is enforcing it then trying to change society and the system. That honestly is a major discussion and different people are going to have different ideas on how to tackle it because of their own personal biases and because we have not done much research into it in academia to know where to begin. We have more obvious solutions to systematic failures in capitalism because we have put so much more thought and research into it than we have things like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:50 AM
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I wasn't having casual sex to begin with I only have sex with people I actually like and want to date so it will make no difference for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:44 AM
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Don't date those women, it's a simple fact that women who aren't like that exist Not where I live.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:43 AM
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Lol why you dating psychos? I don't know any woman that would want her partner to walk around the house go investigate shit like that. That is most women I have dealt with here in the Midwest. Also I don't live in a big city, idk where I'd be that the cops would take 30 minutes to get to me besides in the woods That is why you don't feel that way. If you are in a rural area it can be 30 minutes because of travel distances and in a big city it is 30 minutes because they have so much other crime t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:39 AM
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My husband is capable of it, so I don't see why men who aren't blame their gender identity. Because exceptions exist does not disprove a trend or how hard something is. That is like me saying well I escaped poverty and am now well off therefore all the poor people who are not rich are just whining losers why are they not capable of it? That is nonsense I got lucky, had to work myself to the point of permanent injuries, and still just barely made it while I know tons of people who worked just as …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:36 AM
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Why are you dating women you think are toxic as fuck? Because guys don't get as much choice in who they get to date the two options are be completely alone which is what I do now or date toxic women. Women on the other hand are in so much more demand and are the gatekeepers of dating so they get to pick and choose who they date their options are not just shit or alone they get a wide variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:33 AM
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I'd call the fucking cops, The cops will be there 30 or more minutes later. I would absolutely not want my partner to investigate something alone like that, thats insane and just purposefully dangerous lolol. That is what my women partners expected me to do especially when we lived in bad neighborhoods and is why I first bought a shotgun.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:32 AM
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So instead you won't support him at all? One of the main points of a relationship is to work together and support one another that is why we have the in sickness and in health and for richer and poorer in the marriage vows. Why do modern women refuse to support their partner? I miss women from my grandmothers generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:30 AM
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You mean those groceries that she turned into meals served on plates that she cleaned? The average woman can barely cook and putting plates in the dishwasher is not exactly a challenge not to mention he was the one who paid for most of the groceries. I have also done more cooking and plate washing in all of my relationships than my partner did.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:28 AM
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Because it's unhealthy to have only one source of emotional support. Then tell women to stop enforcing gender norms on men and they might 50 years from now be able to have other sources. And if he has serious issues, he should be seeing a professional. That doesn't work for most men because therapists tend to not treat men clients well and you are expecting your partner to pay for a service while also expecting he does other things for you like fixing your computer or fixing your car. Either we …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:27 AM
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Okay next time you hear a bump in the night you go handle it or when we are in the bad part of town you handle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:25 AM
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Let me get this right you don't want guys to come with you with their problems, but also don't want them to not come with you with their problems because it is a RP thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:23 AM
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In my opinion, a good partnership isn't about exchanges at all. Then why be unhappy about things like having to emotionally support your partner? It isn't about exchanges as you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:17 AM
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“It is not enough for me to win. My enemies must lose.”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:15 AM
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They also get other payments in the form of men solving their problems. Do I ask for financial compensation when I fix my girlfriends car? When I bring in the groceries that are too heavy for her? A partnership doesn't have to be exact exchanges it can be traded for other things where your partner has shortcomings and the two of you can make a whole performing better than either of you could on your own. Well, the behavior definitely affects how many of you are actually worth a relationship. I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:52 AM
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I can't defend my point, so I am just going to say I am better than everyone else and try and insinuate they are beneath me. Are you really doing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:48 AM
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Why do men (not all, obviously) have such trouble emotionally connecting with each other? It just... doesn't work it feels like the blind leading the blind how would you describe how the color orange looks to another blind person if you are also blind? Even without the judgement and social enforcement mechanisms on gender norms I don't think men can get it from each other for various reasons. I think it mostly comes down to personalities because some guys can do it and some women can't and we kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:42 AM
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A guy can't experience pain, violation, or body horror while having sex or being raped? Because guys getting a broken dick from her slamming on it during cowgirl, violated by a finger up the ass without permission, or all sorts of other things don't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:35 AM
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Oh, so you are not even going to try and argue. What was the point of making a post if you are not actually going to argue? Did you just want to stand on a soapbox and say your spiel?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:31 AM
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And guys struggle to orgasm with ugly women especially if she has a loose vagina so that isn't much of a point. That is why I have repeatedly turned down sex even my hand is more pleasurable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:27 AM
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And a 1/10 man has Cock that provides orgasms shoulders ass legs waist hips. Lotta good stuff to work with there. Women are not automatically better than men to say otherwise is delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:22 AM
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Gotta love it when women unintentionally tell on themselves. Somehow women will still say this is not true though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:20 AM
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The men doesn't not provide any such thing to the woman Once again circling back to the point that womens standards are too high. If you can't get aroused by your equal then that is a you problem. You would mock a 400 pound neckbeard living in his mothers basement saying that only supermodels are good enough to date him right? So why does this mockery and standard not apply to the women equivalent?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:18 AM
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Instead take advice from people who have only ever had it easy dating and have good experiences? That is absurd. It is like thinking a 150 IQ person who gets all A's is going to do a better job at explaining a school subject better than someone who has experienced struggles and knows what the students are going through. Not to mention how much the halo effect means a person is going to get into a feedback loop where they start with good easy experiences and will keep getting those because of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:13 AM
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Proof: Men still want to fuck the lowest-value woman, because they get something out of it That isn't proof if anything it proves the opposite two equally matched but lowest value people one is willing to date and fuck the other, but the other is not thus the one who is not has too high of standards because it means they want more than what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:09 AM
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You couldn't get a better looking woman that makes around what you make unless your personality was 100% a match for her and she didn't find you unattractive. The problem with that is most guys including me don't care that much about income because we know it is a scenario of my money is our money and her money is her money or they come with outlandish lifestyle expectations. That is why guys care about their partners income about as much as a woman cares about a guys shoe size unless it is extr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 12:48 AM
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Reasons like not meeting womens ridiculous standards that even you have previously admitted having? How can you admit that your equal is not good enough for you, but not understand that that leads to a lot of men being rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 12:42 AM
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That is what women think and I disagree with them so we are at an impasse. I make enough money to attract the gold diggers, but not enough to satisfy the trophy wife types. I think part of it is I grew up poor so for me my income feels like richness especially because I am in a lower cost of living area, but in womens minds it is not enough to get me a trophy wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 12:06 AM
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I could understand this attitude if these women were trophy wife hot or much younger than me, but these women are my age and same looks or below but still expecting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 12:02 AM
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It varies even if you are a 10 but I hate your personality I am not going to care how hot you are, but the best personality in the world doesn't matter if she is not at all attractive to me. I would rather date a looks 4 with a 7 personality than a 7 looks with a 4 personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:59 PM
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That is what I think, but one of the common types of women I wound up on a date with or dating expected a bailout. That is why I got asked point blank what my yearly income was and why I dropped one woman who I had dated for 6 months because she brought up the idea of me buying us a 4000 sq ft luxury house even though she was only making around $40,000 a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:52 PM
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If they can be decent friends sure, but most can't so I drop them. is your group of female friends also a potential dating pool? Most of them are married so no. when you spend time with a girl, is there usually more to it? Not usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:50 PM
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Even though they are on my looks level or below it yep. Then when I tell them no because they are older and not better looking than I am they get mad or think I am being entitled. Why should I have to bring money to the table to date my equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:48 PM
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First off this is an off topic strawman and secondly you are blaming these people for things like being bitter after they were mistreated instead of blaming the people who mistreated them. Men rarely start with a fucked up brain they get that way after some woman destroys them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:46 PM
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How would you rate yourself as a potential partner outside of finances? Looks, social life, height, all of those things people are looking at on apps? Above, below, or average? 6'2, average weight, decent muscle, below average looks, nerd personality. Social life pre corona was I would consider average spending time with friends a couple nights a week either doing an activity like DND or 1 on 1 with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:38 PM
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I make over six figures and when I took my profession off my dating profile the amount of interest I got dropped like a rock. Women are indeed chasing money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:02 PM
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If the example of guys they think are hot and guys should look like are like that then yes. The other common example is women thinking guys should look like Korean pop stars which is impossible without god tier face genetics or a lot of plastic surgery. Women used to continually complain guys got unrealistic expectations about how women should look based on magazines, advertisements, popular media, pornography, etcetera which was obviously nonsense but now we see the opposite is true women have …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 10:59 PM
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Midwest lower cost of living means it is easier and more common especially because the Midwest tends to be more family oriented than the coasts. Another common example is women who are married with kids that are still working a job are usually working less hours in easier jobs. If I had to guess numbers in the married with kids category 35% are SAHM, 45% working less hours, 20% full time job.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 10:52 PM
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What do you expect out of people who think a year or two in the gym as a man will have you looking like Jason Momoa and that guys are just not trying hard enough. Their is a reason they rate 80% of men as below average their brains are broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 10:47 PM
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Women have kids at 35-40 regularly nowadays, it's not unusual at all let alone impossible. No that is pretty unusual and the chances of having birth defects and other issues skyrocket after 30. Obviously if you hide the fact that you don't want children when starting to date someone they'll be annoyed you wasted their time. That should come out pretty quickly. I wasn't hiding it any more than they were hiding the fact they were desperate to have a kid it wasn't listed on either of our profiles. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 09:49 PM
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Also, I don't get your child angle. If you're childfree you should be stating that up front. Of course people are angry if you lead them on and waste their time and come out with that information later...? Anyone who wants a kid(s) will dump you immediately. I thought if a woman was 35 she realized kids were not possible anymore, but women are delusional and keep throwing balls trying to score one even though the buzzer has already sounded and the game is over. I now list it on my dating profile…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 09:36 PM
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Personal insults instead of arguments and blaming someone for being bitter after bad experiences is like blaming your tummy ache on the chef after you ate 5 pounds of oysters.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 09:06 PM
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Buy I’m saying even if she’s not equal in looks why should she get your money? Are you under the impression a “relationship” should consist of an ugly person paying a hot person for being hot? That sounds like a terrible relationship. I know if I want something better than I am I am going to have to pay for it which to me is just basic trading and economics. rating each person to determine who is hotter isn’t really possible, you can’t really compare hotness of men and women or the subjective le…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 08:39 PM
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In the midwest the average guy is healthy weight to 10 pounds overweight and 6 feet tall and he is stuck dating a woman 40-50 pounds overweight minimum who is also usually less good looking than him even ignoring the weight factor. These numbers get even worse once they reach their 30s and 40s he gets to the point of being 20-30 pounds overweight but she turns into a balloon because they both eat badly but he at least exercises a lot to make up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:59 PM
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These are my favorite numbers https://quillette.com/2019/03/12/attraction-inequality-and-the-dating-economy/ If these findings are to be believed, the great majority of women are only willing to communicate romantically with a small minority of men while most men are willing to communicate romantically with most women. found that women rate 80 percent of men as “worse-looking than medium,” and that this 80 percent “below-average” block received replies to messages only about 30 percent of the ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:54 PM
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Why would you even be talking to people who mistreated you when you were younger? Because I am hoping to find a unicorn woman who I think is a morally decent person who will treat me well unlike the women in my past so I have to go on lots of dates to find out if they are that or not. I also don’t see what being “equal in looks” has to do with anything, If she is my equal in looks why should she also get my money? We are equals so why do I have to bring more to the table? And if you want childre…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:41 PM
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I was just giving the mindset those guys have because I also have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:59 PM
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More and more as redpilled men become a lot of them also want a woman on their level and don't want to pay for them. If she is on my level why do I have to pay for her? Is the problem. I have no problems if she is younger and hotter, but my equal? Why should I pay for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:49 PM
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They might buy a present on holidays/birthdays but from the relationships I've observed even if the women is making similar money, she still expects the man to pay for everything. This goes for the trips and vacations and dates. My money is our money and her money is her money. They also frequently come with massively increased lifestyle expectations as well it is ridiculous. No we do not need a fancy luxury 4000 sq ft house in the suburbs especially not when you are only bringing in $40,000 a y…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:48 PM
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I fought tooth, claw, and nail to escape poverty and now the same women who ignored me or treated me badly when I am younger say I should financially provide for them and want a kid I have to pay for even though we are an equal for looks or she is below me. Fuck that why should I give my money to my equal or someone below me after they mistreated me?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:45 PM
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Exactly like a rich person telling a poor person that money does not matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 05:15 PM
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Having to date your equal is worse than getting raped? Am I understanding this right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 03:24 AM
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The same women who didn't understand how bad it is sure complained a lot on facebook during the pandemic about not getting laid for a couple months or not being able to see their boyfriend. Let me get this straight you tell guys to shut the fuck up about it, but you go three months without it and you act like you are going to break down?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:19 AM
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Or women could just stop being so insanely selectively picky and hypergamous just saying we already know who the problem is. Nice strawman though!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:16 AM
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I think alot of men just crave the intimacy and validation they receive from casual sex and try to hamster that into a necessity. Because we don't get much if any validation elsewhere and we have a way higher sex drive. I felt better from a self a self validation perspective and from an outside validation perspective from having a girlfriend and getting laid than when I graduated university or stopped being poor. I felt more validated getting touched on a regular basis by someone that cared abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:14 AM
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Not what I was referencing when I said attitude of fuck everyone but me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 01:17 AM
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At least in the old days they had to develop a kind personality to make up for it now they are obnoxious and have an attitude of fuck everyone but me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 12:11 AM
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Which is why you may as well let the market decide. Men should stop complaining to women about fairness and just vote for politicians who will help boys in schools. Or give money to education charities for men. Everyone focuses on themselves and their own. There are no grounds to appeal to women on. If that makes sense? Unfortunately that isn't possible because women control politicians and the government so you will be forced by gunpoint to do things like pay taxes to pay for single mothers or …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 11:15 PM
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Maybe I am misunderstanding your point, but I don't view it that way look at how men are discriminated against in school how can that be equal but different? What sort of trade does that come about from? If these trade deals are so absurdly unequal and we have ample evidence to back it up then how is it equal but different? Especially when it is one side getting repeatedly screwed with bad trades then it stops being a trade and because the other side benefits from it becomes more like Imperialis…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 10:51 PM
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In other words the problem is the lies and hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 10:19 PM
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I agree I told her the first time if she did it again I was gone and I did just that the second time which she seemed shocked by because most guys just put up with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:46 PM
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Once I stopped being willing to date fat middle-aged white women who had a barely middle-income job like social worker mysteriously I stopped encountering people who I suspect if not being part of it had the same mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:35 PM
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I originally came here because I wanted to be questioned in my beliefs about how shit women are because I was trying to be more optimistic and less negative, but if anything the women here convinced me my thoughts towards them were not negative enough because the women here are a special breed of crazy self serving and sociopathic utterly lacking in empathy towards men. It is like having negative feelings towards Germans so you visit Germany and start interacting with them only for them to start…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:30 PM
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And that is why I am not going to do that because getting laid is not worth it. I don't expect to date a model but as a 6'2, average weight, guy with muscle, who makes good money, that is going to treat her well I am not going to date some 300 pound troll looking woman who smells like cigarettes, a racist, one who treats me badly, gold diggers, or who expects me to give her all my money I worked so hard for and a kid she also expects me to spend a lot of time, effort, and money raising. I would …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:59 AM
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Which is ironic given it used to be based on the idea of free speech when it originally launched. Funny how that works all the SJW types show up after a site is already successful and then demand it caters to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:22 AM
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For women who are mostly fat and middle aged they sure engaged in a lot of body shaming especially of things that guys can't change like height or becoming bald.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:19 AM
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Funny how you can be blatant man haters and doing things like calling for men to be culled and nobody cares, but being vaguely TERF will get you shut down. Really shows you how little society and in this case reddit cares about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:17 AM
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What can I say I have that top energy apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:15 AM
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I can get girlfriends, but they are either terrible, don't treat me well, or only want me for my money so I would rather be alone because getting my dick wet is not worth that. Lots of guys I talk to are facing the exact same issues I am facing and have been facing. Something absurd like almost a third of men ages 18-30 have not gotten laid in a single year when survey and guys tend to lie and exaggerate when it comes to their sexual access.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:14 AM
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https://quillette.com/2019/03/12/attraction-inequality-and-the-dating-economy/ The exact same article I keep linking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:42 PM
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Men know damn well how women arent that impressed with men’s appearance, and yet, what do men want to rely on? An app that solely relies on their looks. Because women have repeatedly told men to use apps and that hitting on them in real life is bad no matter what setting or time. You are literally blaming men for doing what women told them to do! Even if you use different apps the results are so similar that it doesn't make a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:39 PM
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Yet another study, run by OkCupid on their huge datasets, found that women rate 80 percent of men as “worse-looking than medium,” and that this 80 percent “below-average” block received replies to messages only about 30 percent of the time or less. By contrast, men rate women as worse-looking than medium only about 50 percent of the time, and this 50 percent below-average block received message replies closer to 40 percent of the time or higher. Men are less picky and more willing to interact wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:36 PM
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Can you control other people or can you control yourself? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:14 PM
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I experienced that now I argue online with women who won't admit the problem is women and womens standards being too high. Not many things will make you realize fast that women are shit as being turned down or mistreated by a woman who weighs 30-50 pounds more than you do despite being a foot shorter even if you treat them as good as you can and take care of them. You can give them a foot rub when they get home from work, have supper ready, and listen to them complain about work and they will st…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:13 PM
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And the fact other dating sites and apps also show that the problem is womens standards being too high means what? This isn't new we saw similar absurdities when online dating was newer with the OkCupid studies such as the income one I linked. You just can't admit the problem is women and want to shit on guys because you hate them no matter how much evidence people use to tell you that you are wrong. You act like a religious zealot and fanatic who despite ample evidence of evolution being a real…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:08 PM
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I will yet again link this article because it uses multiple studies to prove the point again. https://quillette.com/2019/03/12/attraction-inequality-and-the-dating-economy/ A data scientist representing the popular dating app “Hinge” reported on the Gini coefficients he had found in his company’s abundant data, treating “likes” as the equivalent of income. He reported that heterosexual females faced a Gini coefficient of 0.324, while heterosexual males faced a much higher Gini coefficient of 0.5…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:44 PM
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Weird, I didn’t know “people” only referred to women What is this even in reference to? Well, no one said you can’t make more friends and do different activities And as I proved doing that is pointless and will not work because I and other guys like me have tried that already. I could already have an activity every night of the week with friends or coworkers if I wanted pre corona and it made no difference. The problem is not men or what we are doing the problem is women do not want men and thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:39 PM
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That's where the problem lies. Too many of guys set their threshold so high that the majority of women are cut out, and he's stuck with his type of women being disproportionately brainless bimbos. For the love of god why do you keep arguing this it has been repeatedly proven in multiple studies and from multiple angles mens standards for looks in a partner are lower than womens are in a partner. It is like trying to argue with a broken record on a loop that just keeps saying the same falsehoods …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:33 PM
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It doesn't make enough of a difference for it to matter especially when they usually show similar results and those results are that womens standards are too god damn high.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:31 PM
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And yet women will never admit they are liars or that they are the problem in dating. Imagine having that much ego that you can't admit you were wrong and having that much of an in group bias towards other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:12 PM
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Once a year or so by random gay men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:11 PM
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People say that, yes. In other words women as usual were lying and now you think we should keep believing them? So that if you cause drama, you got a warning. No it is because the guys did not follow rules 1 and 2 but women won't admit this because they want to save face so instead they lie until their pants are the surface of the sun. You blame men for listening to women and refuse to admit women are liars. Do you not have friends, family and activities ? Most of my friends are men who are just…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:10 PM
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The link I gave also shows the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:00 PM
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Half of my coworkers in tech have not had a relationship in 5+ years so I don't think you are right about this. Women don't like nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:58 PM
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People like you told us asking out coworkers and women who are working was bad so which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:50 PM
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I saw how my elder male relatives were treated versus the elder women and the difference was shocking. If they could not move heavy things or financially provide anymore they were ignored and told to go sit and watch tv, but the elderly women were waited on hand and foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:48 PM
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Why I plan on leaving the US once I retire my money and taxes is not going to be spent supporting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:40 PM
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Learning to take pain and keep going like any boxer learns early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:38 PM
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Funny enough, the Okcupid study that this sub LOVES citing also showed that men on the site over prioritized looks to the point they disproportionately undermessaged average looking girls. Please spare me the “Guys go after all types of women” because that’s not true except when it comes to sex, proving my point. Wrong "Yet another study, run by OkCupid on their huge datasets, found that women rate 80 percent of men as “worse-looking than medium,” and that this 80 percent “below-average” block r…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:34 PM
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We are being told to not use apps but also told to not hit on women in real life in any setting? Where do you expect us to hit on women then? We can't do it online and can't do it in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:31 PM
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Am 6'2 can confirm women like that have told me I was not tall enough. In the cases where they find a guy that tall they then wonder why he treats them badly or pumps and dumps. Because you dumb bitch if he was not an asshole he would not be having to date women who look like you and would instead date someone on his level.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/04/22 05:30 PM
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She still has the white trash hotness still going on for now, but even I am not dumb enough to touch that with a 10 foot pole and I know that is only going to last another handful of years. I know tons of other guys will put up with her being a complete disaster though because she is still hot but based on dealing with women like her previously I know she will fuck up the relationship and burn those bridges.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/04/22 05:31 PM
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If she liked a different kind of mudding she would not have a 9 month old. I grew up in areas with so many women like this and they never understood the conservative country guys who like fishing and mudding are not going to raise some other guys kids so these women just kept getting pumped and dumped. Eventually they hit 30 and start looking for a rich guy like me to bail them out even though we have nothing in common and I laugh when they try.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/04/22 05:22 PM
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20 guys in 24 months That is a new guy every 1.2 months really not the sign of a healthy person or one meant for long term relationships.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/04/22 01:52 AM
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Notice that instead of being willing to accept fault for lying she just insults other people and blames them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/04/22 12:47 AM
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I kinda want to tell them they can find a good tall attractive loyal husband who works hard if they just move. The lower cost of living also means they can frequently be a stay-at-home housewife and raise their kids as well if that is what they want. I know so many single guys who make good money to very good money but are perpetually single. Half of my white collar office coworkers all of which are making six figures have not been in a relationship in five years and I also know tons of blue col…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/22 08:57 PM
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If I eliminate single mothers and women over 200+ pounds that eliminates at least half of the women on the dating apps which is ridiculous. I didn't fight tooth, claw, and nail to escape poverty to now make six figures and lose weight to pay to raise someone elses kids or date someone that weighs 250 pounds which is 50 pounds more than I am even though they are a foot shorter.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/22 05:25 PM
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You would be screwed in the Midwest then. I don't mind overweight women but tons of them are completely delusional such as them being 200 pounds and only being willing to date a 6'4 bean pole skinny guy or an athletic guy. Bitch you are a circle stop wanting to date the best Tetris piece. It feels like whatever a guy is in the midwest most of the time he gets stuck dating someone 2 points below him looks wise and a large portion of those women think they are settling which is completely delusion…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/22 05:08 PM
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But somehow they think they deserve a good looking guy who is six, six, six and anything less is not good enough. If these women were trophy wife hot I could understand it, but most of these women acting demanding and working jobs like that are a 4 looks wise on a good day. Once they age out of their mid 20s they start being willing to "settle" and ask where are all the good men with good incomes who will give me kids?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/22 04:46 PM
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Midwest hot is a thing a 7 here is a 5 in NYC or LA. I saw more good looking young women in a day in NYC than I normally do in a month where I live in the midwest. This doesn't affect the guys though because with the genetics we have the guys are taller, commonly have a love of physical activity, and blue collar jobs being common which means the guys are normal weight or skinny. I constantly see the younger couples being the guy is 6 feet average weight and the woman being 50 pounds overweight b…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/22 04:34 PM
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Say, don’t you need a man to make those kids? Maybe they can choose that man based on his ability to earn an income and having family oriented behaviors. Those guys might do a good job. Womens response to this would be but those guys don't give me vagina tingles then go back to dating abusive broke fuckbois.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/04/22 11:12 PM
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That would require humility and an ability to admit they were ever wrong which most women are completely lacking because they went through life being spoiled by their parents and then society just because of their gender.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/04/22 05:51 PM
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I have basically accepted I will constantly get banned for telling the truth that the emperor has no pants. Women will do anything to avoid the truth even taking over subreddits to censor it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/04/22 05:49 PM
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So you agree with the science saying medical obesity is terrible and bad? No you are still pro fatness? I guess that is okay but really dumb, but then why won't you date a fat guy if you disagree with the science?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/04/22 05:46 PM
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Without the child part she would be pretty reasonable and fine, but that subtracts so many points.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/04/22 05:42 AM
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Women still make demands after having a kid and then wonder why the only men who are hot with a good job but still talking to her are only interested in casual sex, ghost her, or are immature.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/04/22 03:50 AM
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The top two overlapping subs for FDS used to be dating over 30 and raised by narcissists and you just know they either inherited it or had it rub off on them. Other mental health ones were common as well.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/04/22 11:55 PM
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Or her disappointed parents are stuck supporting their daughter yet again. I know other examples of women in their 30s being supported because they want a lifestyle that their job is not enough to pay for such as making 35k-40k a year but wanting to live in a 2k a month luxury apartment.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/04/22 06:49 PM
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city is small => dead online dating. As a man it feels like if you are not in a city of 500,000 minimum online dating will either be dead or like visiting the cities dump or insane asylum. I am in a city of 200,000 to 300,000 and the women I have been stuck going on dates with are so bad I have so many tales especially from when I swiped yes out of everyone for a period of a year or so just to see if that was what the problem was. Are you in the Midwest? I am and after talking to lots of people …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/04/22 06:43 PM
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Just think she was afraid to kiss you but not 12 hours ago she was GLUCK GLUCK GLUCKing some other dudes cock with the same mouth and made you jump through all these hoops to even get to that point of a kiss. If that isn't her telling you she thinks you are trash and at most a potential bailout I don't know what is.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/04/22 12:41 AM
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We don't need to recruit instead the women drop the men they destroyed at our doorstep for us.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/04/22 12:39 AM
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If they were married for at least 10 years, they'd qualify for half his social security. Not a lot of money but still. It's amusing that things are so bad that so many women can't hold a man for that long. You mean it isn't normal to go through 4-6 men or more in 10 years being married twice?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/22 08:22 PM
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So here's the thing: Women can get incredibly good runs that us men can only dream of. Stay in decent shape and they can live like Hugh Hefner from 18 to 55. Yeah, they may wind up alone after that but still, I'm a bit jealous. I have dealt with plenty of women who are 50 with less than 5 years of work history because they just found men to mooch off of instead. A lot of them are now realizing retirement is not going to be possible for them because they don't have enough years worked for social …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/22 07:05 PM
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The same women who ignored me as a teenager and in my 20s while attending university now act interested in dating me now that they are in their 30s and desperate for a kid and financial bailout because I am rich. Sorry while you were getting gangbanged by the hockey team I was studying or after I graduated was working 60 hours a week and women like you repeatedly and painfully told me you did not want me because I was an ugly nerd so why should I want you now that your looks have faded and you h…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/22 06:57 PM
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Worst I have seen is ten to fifteen years a couple times but this is more like twenty. For me the worst was when I was very confused about why my date looked so different so I mentioned one of the profile pictures being nice and that I liked it in an attempt to get her to talk about it and she said that it was taken in between senior year of high school and her starting university. I admit I thought she looked suspiciously young in the picture but I would have at least guessed 20 something but 1…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/04/22 09:59 PM
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Sugar daddy with no sex even though she is in an open relationship? That makes no sense! The women I see openly asking for a sugar dating situation like this are also almost always nowhere near hot enough for pay for and I am willing to bet that is the case in this profile.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/04/22 05:41 PM
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If she is anything like a lot of other women doctors she will expect to be able to either quit entirely or work less hours and have you pay for all her student loan debt. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/too-many-female-doctors-go-part-time-or-stop-working-and-thats-bad-for-patients-2019-08-06
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/04/22 01:20 AM
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High earning women are not worth dating because it is usually a scenario of my money is our money but her money is her money or they have outlandish lifestyle expectations so even if they make 150k a year before taxes but they are broke because they spend 15k a month and expect things like private schools for the eventual kids. You get absolutely nothing out of it and they usually bring the work stress home or act bossy and in charge because that is how they have to act at work. No guy wants to …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/04/22 01:16 AM
15

I have only had one woman that made me feel desired instead of feeling used and tolerated and that was the same woman that made me feel desired in the bedroom too bad she was crazy. Why is it only crazy women that are capable of showing love and desire towards men on the level of what normal women show for Chad? My guess is because they feel like they need to make even a normal guy happy and want him to desire them but normal women feel normal guys are only to use and abuse and they are secure e…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/04/22 07:19 PM
15

This has to be a mental disorder. At this point and time being a woman and thinking like one might as well be a mental disorder and no I am not talking about trans people.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/04/22 07:15 PM
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The UI on most of these offshoot sites are awful to the level it makes me not want to use it. TRP is barely tolerable, but other ones are so bad it makes my eyes hurt. I understand the mods want their own petty kingdom, but at least make your kingdom tolerable to live in.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/04/22 05:52 PM
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If she didn't have the shitty attitude and kids the body would be tolerable enough to most guys, but she chooses to play life on hard mode by being a bitch and thinking someone else should pay for Chads spawn.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/04/22 07:49 PM
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And then they wonder why guys are laying down and refusing to participate in society or participating as little as possible. Why should I contribute to a society that doesn't want me and pay for women that think I am not even a human being?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/04/22 03:30 AM
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Around half of kids born to millenials are born to unwed mothers. https://slate.com/business/2014/06/for-millennials-out-of-wedlock-childbirth-is-the-norm-now-what.html
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/04/22 01:56 AM
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Conservative women keep demanding conservative guys, but then have a kid and act like a bitch that is also very demanding then wonder why those kinds of guys are not interested. They are not interested because those kinds of guys won't date single mothers and want a woman who is submissive and feminine not a bitch like you. I am not a conservative guy and even I know this just from knowing conservative guys! But somehow they don't understand it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/04/22 06:29 PM
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Saying no to the women who want me to provide for them and give them kids now that I have money and they are in their 30s who previously ignored me when I was struggling in my 20s is one of the best feelings ever. While you were getting drunk and fingerblasted by some frat bro or getting gangbanged by the hockey team I was studying or working now you expect me to pay for you and give you kids? Go fuck yourself if you didn't want guys like me then you don't deserve us now. I hope you feel the las…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/04/22 08:41 PM
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I can not believe the amount of women aging like milk because of their lifestyle and not taking care of themselves. I went from being attracted to around 60% of college aged women to around 10% in their 30s because so few women take care of their bodies. Lay off the alcohol and sugar filled drinks from Starbucks, don't do drugs like smoking, go to the gym once or twice a week, have a face care routine, and try to get enough sleep it isn't that hard.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/04/22 08:50 PM
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Would you pay 100 dollars for a loaf of bread someone else got for free that has now started to mold and decay? The high price alone would make you question it, the fact it has already started to decay would make you wonder why not just get a fresh loaf, and the fact someone else got it for free would really make you question the entire situation. Do not be that dumb sucker make them languish in agony and misery like they did to you.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/04/22 07:33 PM
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The amount of mistreatment and abuse of my kindness I got from women who were below my level that I wanted to love but were incapable of loving me was unbelievable. So many times I had to fix their car, help pay their rent, helping them move apartments, or other things and then they would never repay the favor and act like I was asking for too much when asking for basic favors. I invested all this energy and tried to be such a good guy, but it made no difference because I was not that top 20% wo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/04/22 07:42 PM
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Tell me more?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/04/22 12:12 AM
6

I saw a funny one of those videos recently the girl wastes a lot of time in the video but the dumb comments she made were so enjoyable it was worth having my time wasted by her. She literally didn't even know you can't message someone without being matched to them and acted so shocked she was not immediately getting matches as her super hot boyfriend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A2HGTMV78Q
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/03/22 07:26 PM
25

I remember that back in university if they used doctor in their name in an email I knew they were going to be a prick before even dealing with them in person. The opposite was also in true if a professor said they preferred to be called by their first name on the first day of class I knew they were going to be easy to interact with and usually have an enjoyable class.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/03/22 07:20 PM
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The incel's are for all intents and purposes invisible to all women UNLESS they need something from them, then they pay them just enough attention to get what they need and ghost them immediately after. It's no wonder these guys are extremely bitter. Every day I thank the lord I walked away from relationships with women, there just isn't any benefit anymore...just liabilities, expense and heartache. I am not bottom 20% and I still have the same experiences of being used and hurt by women like th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/03/22 07:12 PM
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Women are used to being like this one - having a hoard of men they see as beneath them banging down their door. Unattractive women get thousands of likes. I have seen it. I have spoken to some. And of course people have made videos on it Even the ugliest women I know get 5-10 likes a week. The fat ones around 200 pounds still get 20+ likes a week including one a week or so that has a six pack. These same women when I challenge to use my dating profile after stating I am a nice guy who is decent …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/03/22 07:06 PM
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Mad because I repeat what women say got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 06:44 PM
1

Let me get this right using a study to show women are wrong and are like this is bad, because it proves incels and blackpill is correct? You would rather people dance around the issue or lie just to keep women happy or what? Do you want people using studies to prove things or not? You can't say don't use studies just because it shows one side is right that just shows you don't actually care about the debate or the truth you just want an echo chamber and a place people shit fling at each other. D…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 06:43 PM
2

I like the feeling of the pump after chest day giving lots of confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 06:33 PM
2

Lets get this straight studies about dating are verboten and you don't want actual discussion you just want shit flinging and arguing instead of people using studies to back up the arguments and prove their points? You don't actually care about arguing and debate then you just want to be able to soapbox and want your own little petty kingdom you can enforce your will on which is made obvious by your decisions and behavior as a mod.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 06:31 PM
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I am incel for discussing my bad experiences dating women? If I was an incel I would not be able to date! If you are going to insult someone at least get the terms right.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 06:28 PM
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Are you serious? We now can't discuss studies about the topics this subreddit is supposed to be about? Is everyone else seeing this post a mod just made?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 06:26 PM
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Saying what women said is bigotry? It is not my fault women are this way but I am the one you are blaming. You expect me to tell a lie and that the emperor has no pants which is not true? I am sorry but that is not going to happen I am going to say he is not wearing pants because it is the truth regardless of whether he likes it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 06:04 PM
1

Doing tests like that is always fun I did one where I left my profession off my profile and the number of gold diggers interested dropped like a rock, but mysteriously so did the amount of normal women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 06:01 PM
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