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Ugh. That sounds really weird when you use per se in that way. It reminds me of the vampire kid from South Park who totally overuses per se because he thinks it makes him sound smart.
/r/seduction03/11/14 06:32 PM
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This is really funny to me. I just celebrated my six month anniversary with a girl I met from Tinder. The funny thing was my situation was just like yours, we totally connected right from the beginning. Our first date was at a coffee shop and moved to a nearby dive for a drink but we both coincidentally had to go to birthday parties after so we didn't go all the way until the next date at my place. The best part of that date was that I made her take a body shot right when she walked in. Later on…
/r/seduction20/10/14 02:47 AM
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What makes you think that?
/r/seduction29/08/14 02:10 PM
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I like it, but I would do the rating system differently. You give different traits "priority," but you weigh each one equally. I would personally give traits multipliers rather than a rating. Like since femininity is lower on your list you could give it a multiplier of x0.5. For me intelligence and beauty are high on my list so I would probably give beauty x1.5 and intelligence x2.0.
/r/seduction16/01/14 05:35 PM
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What did it say?
/r/seduction28/12/13 04:59 PM
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Sure man. You're so mature.
/r/seduction17/02/13 05:03 AM
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You sound like an asshole. Who are you to make such broad sweeping judgements?
/r/seduction17/02/13 04:28 AM
1

Really? Those must be some dumb people that cant think of three animals! Hah. I never had that problem.
/r/seduction09/02/13 12:31 PM
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I friend of mine, a girl if that matters, showed me a similar test, but for her test she asked me only to pick three animals and similarly give reasons why. The first animal was how you think others see you, the second is how you see yourself or how you wish you were, and the third is what you look for in romantic partner. Mine was pretty spot on.
/r/seduction08/02/13 10:52 PM
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Very astute.
/r/seduction25/01/13 08:30 AM
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Tyler said it himself. He doesnt like evrybody. Not everybody likes him. Why does there have to be more to it than that. Some personalities don't match. I get the impression I would hate to hang out with him but I enjoy listening to him as a public speaker.
/r/seduction25/01/13 06:17 AM
1

He has a lot of material, what specifically is good regarding mLTRs?
/r/seduction14/01/13 12:22 AM
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Nothing ventured nothing gained.
/r/seduction14/01/13 12:17 AM
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Ah yes this guy. I remember him. He has gotten very spiritual and a bit weird, but at the same time I feel like trying something new and different. I might just give this a shot. I am downloading a bunch of his old stuff, and if I like it I might go on to buy some of the material, but god his website is awful.
/r/seduction14/01/13 12:16 AM
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That was a good read. I have been looking for something like this for a little while. On a related note does anyone know of any guide for successfully balancing mLTRs?
/r/seduction13/01/13 07:26 PM
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I understand that, but my point is that this subreddit isn't designed to get that girl, in fact we tend to heavily discourage that type of thinking. So personally if a particular girl that i meet randomly isn't into me from the get go why should I emotionally invest myself in a relationship that most likely won't go anywhere. If, however, you have a friend that you like to hang out with (while also dating and banging other girls on the side) then by all means i would encourage that, and if it tu…
/r/seduction11/01/13 03:39 PM
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I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to downvote you. It is not that your opinion is wrong or invalid, but it is just a perfect example why taking pick up advice from women is in general a bad idea. The way I see it, yes this scenario is possible within your own circle of friends, but as far as meeting new girls is concerned, this is a very inefficient way to get play, and would ultimately end in a lot of frustration and time wasted hoping that a girl will come around.
/r/seduction11/01/13 03:21 PM
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It turned out okay.
/r/seduction17/12/12 12:30 AM
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I was reading the through the information on google, and I am intrigued. I have gone through periods of time when I did take cold showers, and I did like them. I always chalked it up to being invigorated by the cold water, but I actually think it's possible that it might be due to the health benefits they list. i don't know if this flinch is a real thing, but I think I will give this a go nonetheless.
/r/seduction25/11/12 06:09 PM
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Great read!
/r/seduction24/01/12 09:18 PM
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You might have fallen into a trap that I and I believe other rAFCs have gone through. I can't speak for others but in my experience the only way I could stop being a "nice guy" was by ceasing to be so nice! Sounds obvious, but here is what I didn't realize at the time: I could still be nice without being a "nice guy." I think that at times I came off as a dick, when I didn't mean or need to be. I don't regret it because I needed to recalibrate myself, and part of that was to go to the extreme of…
/r/seduction15/01/12 08:31 PM
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If she's throwing out nice strong IOI's like that then you could totally do a push pull thing. Where you let her chase then pull away. Then chase her and pull back. Make into a fun game.
/r/seduction04/01/12 01:52 AM
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Yeah, don't write her off too, quickly, but also don't be afraid to walk away if you two don't have compatible ideals.
/r/seduction31/12/11 06:38 PM
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If I really liked her then I would. Some say that they're waiting, but in reality can be persuaded. I wouldn't stay with her for very long without sex.
/r/seduction31/12/11 06:11 PM
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You are fundamentally incorrect on how the HB scale is supposed to work. It isn't based on YOUR perception of her value, it's based on HER perception of her own value. You could think she's a 6, but if she gets a lot of validation and thinks she's the shit she might be a HB8, and might shoot you down just as quickly as a real 8 if you don't bring tight game. Likewise an actual 8 in looks could be an HB6 if she has low self esteem.
/r/seduction27/12/11 05:22 PM
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slow clap
/r/seduction23/12/11 05:35 PM
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you're
/r/seduction15/11/11 05:33 PM
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I totally agree with you. I say this as a person who was raised as a devout Mormon. He just has to realize that being middle of the road is tough in this situation and I should know. If you want to go for a Mormon girl she will NEED for you to be Mormon too. If you decide not to go for a Mormon girl you have to realize that very few other people share the same views on sex and marriage. Looking for someone to marry will appear very odd outside of the Mormon culture but within is accepted and exp…
/r/seduction10/09/11 12:37 PM
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess the you're Mormon. Whatever your religion my advice would be to stick to girls of your own faith, because other girls are unlikely to share your same ideals. Either that or read the top few comments. Those are your only options I'm afraid.
/r/seduction10/09/11 10:28 AM
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That's like your opinion, man.
/r/seduction20/08/11 06:58 PM
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Don't worry, I downvoted you because you were complaining about being downvoted.
/r/seduction22/05/11 04:04 PM
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Yeah, wat?
/r/seduction12/05/11 07:07 PM
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That's stupid. It's impossible for everyone to like you. Even if it's just because everyone else likes you and they're just jealous, there is going to be at least someone that doesn't, and it's not worth your effort trying to change their minds. Why would you game a girl that is a total bitch? That just doesn't make any sense to me. Being gamed has to be deserved in my opinion.
/r/seduction28/01/11 02:04 AM
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No is liked by everyone. Trying to accomplish this is an exercise in futility, but if you want to game people that you genuinely dislike that is your own prerogative, or maybe you like people that are rude to you. Either way it sounds like a huge waste of effort in my opinion.
/r/seduction27/01/11 11:18 PM
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No way man. Have some standards.
/r/seduction27/01/11 08:31 PM
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Maybe, but it depends how she said it I think, and keep in mind this is NOT a neg. If she's intentionally being mean-spirited in what she's saying then in my mind she pretty much gives me free range to fire back, and at this point, if she's being a bitch like this, she's not a potential target either. I would only say this because 1) it's true (I don't associate with bitches) and 2) because it will humiliate her back and keep my own social value high in front of everybody else. Having said that …
/r/seduction27/01/11 07:22 PM
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"Please, I wouldn't touch you with a ten foot pole if my life depended on it."
/r/seduction27/01/11 01:20 PM
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link
/r/seduction22/01/11 04:48 AM
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I tend to run this approach. After a while of running around chasing I get tired of playing her game of cat and mouse and just come out with it. I've scared a few girls away by doing this, but I've also had a fair amount of success. As for the ones that I'm not successful with it doesn't bother me that much, because by that point I really am doing it because I'm tired of the run around and wouldn't put up with it any more anyways.
/r/seduction14/01/11 12:08 AM
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What about this idea: if meeting at a bar take a taxi there and use the excuse of not wanting to drive after drinking. After this it should be pretty easy to get her to drive you home, from there it only takes a minor hook to get her to come inside. Yeah? Nay?
/r/seduction15/09/10 07:29 AM
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Whoa there. Getting a bit defensive are we? Seems like you're losing your frame. A bit beta of you! Hahaha. But in all seriousness, don't be a douche.
/r/seduction15/09/10 06:17 AM
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I didn't know about DiCarlo! That is awesome. One of the best things I've ever read, seriously. I can't believe I haven't heard of this before. Thanks for the post!
/r/seduction11/09/10 06:15 PM
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Unless he fell on purpose he didn't do anything except get lucky that she was attracted to him.
/r/seduction03/09/10 05:01 PM
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I don't really see this as pick up as you didn't really do anything except fall off of your bike, but good for you. I hope it works out for you.
/r/seduction03/09/10 04:12 PM
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Girls can get more guys by looking more attractive. Guys have more power to change how the opposite sex perceives us, because it's largely based on the way we act. That is why we read this self post that typifies an archetype of female psychology to better understand it, and girls read about how to do their make up or hair or whatever is in those girly magazines, and that reason is because attraction is not a choice. Some guys on the self post sound pretty bitter, but it's probably because they …
/r/seduction02/09/10 08:08 PM
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That's pretty good. I'll try to use that. How are getting digits any different from dating? If you are getting the girl's number it kind of implies that will want a date later. Now, some in the community suggest that getting numbers and dating are a bad idea (but they still always come together). Some guys think you should just bed girls when you meet then and if you can't then just send the packing (because in their opinion it's not worth the effort.) I don't subscribe to this philosophy. I'm m…
/r/seduction01/09/10 04:38 PM
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Guy was a douche, but she had it coming.
/r/seduction28/08/10 05:54 PM
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i approve of this message
/r/seduction18/08/10 09:47 AM
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Yeah. I have an iPhone. I don't get how someone could text the wrong person on accident.
/r/seduction16/08/10 01:16 AM
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To be honest I still don't like it and it would only make sense that you would text her by accident if you already text her a lot which you shouldn't do if she is being cold anyways.
/r/seduction15/08/10 10:30 PM
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Fake text seems fake. I think it will be obvious and seem try hard. Jealousy plotline can work but it has to "slip" in an organic way. Next time she invites you to do something say you already have plans but try not to tell her what they are even if she asks. Try to skirt the question. Girls are perceptive and she will inevitably go through all possible scenarios of why YOU would reject to hang out with HER. I saw another post about the full stop a couple of days ago. I'm doing the same thing to…
/r/seduction15/08/10 02:42 AM
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You're welcome.
/r/seduction13/08/10 04:58 PM
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Get it?!?!
/r/seduction13/08/10 04:44 PM
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It's called fools mate. She wanted to fuck and you were there. End of story. You should have obliged her.
/r/seduction10/08/10 09:56 PM
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For one I am now MUCH more outgoing. I now really like talking to people when before I would shy away from such situations and even get anxiety when I knew I would be in a social situation. PUA simply forced me to get outside of myself, and with the motivation of PUA to get me to push myself outside of my comfort zone I managed to become comfortable talking to people, and then I got good at starting conversations with people, including strangers (male and female), and now I am to the point where…
/r/seduction05/08/10 03:28 PM
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I'm horrible at spitting out canned game. I have a horrible memory (when it comes to verbal memory) and even if I can remember the routine it always feels forced to me. I have tried spitting canned game, but it rarely ever worked for me, but internal game, man, that was what this whole thing was about for me. I improved myself so much as a person since I started this that it's almost funny to think that PUA got me to change myself so damn much. I do see guys spitting horrible game sometimes and …
/r/seduction05/08/10 07:33 AM
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Just let it go. You can take away and not respond, but to call her out is just so very very beta. It shows that what she did affected you, and as silvermckenzie pointed out if it affects you then that shows you have more invested than she does, and if you have more invested it puts you at lower value then her. Don't forget who the prize is here.
/r/seduction09/07/10 05:14 PM
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Exactly man, it's a traaaaapppp!!!! You explained perfectly why I thought what I was thinking.
/r/seduction09/07/10 05:01 PM
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Yeah, arrogant and beta at the same time. By saying all this it is obvious that her flaking bothered you. I prefer the "if you really want to miss the train then that's your fault" approach. Don't forget who the prize is.
/r/seduction09/07/10 02:22 PM
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Dude, you guys are all way overreacting. Is this the first time that she flaked on you? If it is then I say she can get a "free pass" as far as getting another chance. Don't call her out on it, it just looks desperate. Just ignore it. Don't answer the question of whether or not you are mad. Just ask her out again and make the request for a specific day. By suggesting a specific day you imply that your time is important, and by not answering whether or not you are mad she will assume you kind of …
/r/seduction09/07/10 02:17 PM
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I couldn't bounce outside of the clubs and bars that I went to that night, because I might not have been able to get back in. Good advice though, I like the simple and direct way of doing things too.
/r/seduction05/07/10 07:11 PM
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Maybe you're right, but I think it's ASD more than anything. She was kind of drunk and might have been worried about how she would look in front of her long time (family) friend. I agree though, about the compliance tests, definitely the way to go.
/r/seduction05/07/10 07:08 PM
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Hey great response. Thanks.
/r/seduction05/07/10 04:26 PM
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Not that it makes it much better, but he totally butchered the saying. It's supposed to go: "If you aim for the stars and miss, you'll still be floating in the clouds." Or something to that effect. Still pretty cheesy, but at least then it makes sense.
/r/seduction30/06/10 05:42 AM
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Apparently Horatio__Caine disagreed with me, but what bothered me the most was having to figure out on my own when you were quoting yourself or someone else, because you didn't once use any quotation marks at all, and a couple of times, like I was saying before, your clauses just didn't make sense, and it was pretty obvious you didn't proof read it. That being said, I got the gist, so whatever, I'm done bitching about it.
/r/seduction22/06/10 06:52 AM
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It's all about plausible deniability. It's a a critical component of asd.
/r/seduction22/06/10 02:12 AM
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I'm not talking about that. I know the terms. Your grammar is horrible and you don't use punctuations or quotation marks at all. Some of the phrases you use don't even make sense. I got the gist, but it was kind of annoying to have to read.
/r/seduction21/06/10 04:45 PM
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Dude, are you drunk? Your writing is impossible to read.
/r/seduction21/06/10 06:19 AM
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Yup, I agree. I did mean what you said but also I think that you should better yourself in all ways. Who you are now is great, I'm sure most of you out there are great people, but you all can be better. You can learn more, you can be more fit, you can get better at what you already know, or you can pick up new things. One of the most powerful things I have gotten from pick up does not even relate to women and that is the desire to constantly better myself. I don't even do it for them anymore, bu…
/r/seduction07/06/10 04:59 PM
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In pick up art they will never tell you to be yourself, to be confident, to tell yourself you'll get the girl you want, etc. These are stupid vague instruction from self-help books that never helped anyone. On the same vein as imperi I also disagree. Being confident is absolutely the number one thing to pick up from pick up. If you don't remember a single canned routine and just walk away being able to walk up to any girl with confidence then you won. "Be yourself" is kinda too vague, we are alw…
/r/seduction07/06/10 04:13 PM
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You're right, it's all about frame control. There really is no golden answer. Having a funny response can be a good or you can sometimes almost ignore it. It kind of depends though. If you make her qualify herself to you then she might not even shit test you at all since you will have already proved yourself as being the one in control of the interaction. Or at least don't jump through her hoops unless she jumps through yours first. But basically I think you're right: if you keep the right minds…
/r/seduction06/06/10 08:02 PM
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But I believe that percentage rate is based on how many couples got pregnant in one year. It doesn't mean that 2% of all sexual encounters ended in pregnancy. There is a very significant difference. Condoms are not perfect, but they do work pretty well.
/r/seduction06/06/10 03:59 PM
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Greater Los Angeles area (San Gabriel Valley)
/r/seduction05/06/10 06:08 PM
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Wow man I feel motivated. Thanks for that.
/r/seduction29/05/10 11:24 AM
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Just don't leave. Just stay there and talk to her. The reason for having the FTC is to make sure she doesn't think you are going to loom over them for hours and make them eventually feel uncomfortable. Just having a conversation is enough reason in her mind for why you would stay. You don't need to give her further reasons to do so. If you are able to keep the conversation going than do so.
/r/seduction28/04/10 01:55 AM
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I agree with you. In my experience I too have found some of my girl friends to have that mindset.
/r/seduction09/04/10 04:34 PM
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I work out. It's a two-fold thing. I look better because I'm in shape, and plus when you work out, I think you also feel better about yourself and in general will be in a better mood. I lift and I also run (in half marathons and marathons). The running is a cool story to tell girls.
/r/seduction15/11/09 05:55 AM
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Yes, I'm aware that there's a common parlance, respected literature, and frequently-used techniques, as there are in any community of practitioners of any art. who talks like that? either your trolling me for a response or, youre kind of a pompous prick. either way i cant argue with you anymore. i have to go to work. no one else will read this far anyways so no one can possibly win this argument. good day sir
/r/seduction05/11/09 09:47 PM
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that has nothing to do with your relationships with women but rather your knowledge of the methods the seduction community advocates. which maybe you know like the back of your hand, but i just got the impression that you didn't since your advice seems contradictory to what i believe most mpuas would say. i'm sure you have a gf and shes super hot and youre really proud of her, but again, i simply don't care. i don't mean that in a mean way, i'm just completely done with the conversation. good by…
/r/seduction05/11/09 09:17 PM
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i have never brought up your relationships, but whatever. i'm over this conversation
/r/seduction05/11/09 08:31 PM
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okay i'll give it to you that i don't know youre level of knowledge, and if you've been on the discussion boards and reading the literature from before 2005 I would have to give you some props. but the fact of the matter is that this guy is still new and needs motivation. to be honest i think that just a little bit of dogma at the very beginning is a good thing. it keeps you working when you don't fully understand the material. of course everyone eventually figures out a balance for themselves. …
/r/seduction05/11/09 08:18 PM
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you know what? i've kinda been meaning to do the missions again. i think theyre kind of fun. sometimes it's easy to make it flow, but sometimes it's awkward. you want some partnership? i'll do it with you. are you on day 4?
/r/seduction05/11/09 07:53 PM
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keep us posted
/r/seduction05/11/09 07:50 PM
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you keep bringing up your relationship history. i don't care. the bottom line is that i don't value your opinion because you discourage people when they should be encouraged to keep on going.
/r/seduction05/11/09 07:49 PM
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dude, seduction in this context refers to a set of well-defined methods. which one do you prescribe to? The Game is the book when talking about seduction. If you haven't at least read that I don't value your opinion. end of story. I question whether you've read any worthwhile literature on the subject. being able to get a gf isn't the same as knowing the structure that is used in the community, and I don't like you discouraging new guys when you don't know what you're talking about.
/r/seduction05/11/09 07:44 PM
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you don't work out enough or know enough about pick up for me value your opinion.
/r/seduction05/11/09 07:23 PM
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the only way to keep it up is to just do it. i was at school when i did the 30 day thing so there were plenty of new people around to do the missions on and i still missed certain days. so i can imagine what you're going through. friends are good to help but the problem with that is that if they aren't as into it as you they might actually drag you down with them. i think if you could bring another friend into the fold all the better, but don't bank on it. just fight through the discomfort and h…
/r/seduction05/11/09 07:11 PM
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WTF? Emergency? That's a survival book. It has nothing to do with seduction. Read what it says just above the red button on the right. I don't care if you have a gf, it makes no difference. This subreddit is to help guys in the seduction community, and if you don't know anything about it, maybe you should take your advice to r/relationship_advice where it could be more useful rather than give guys confusing messages (especially when they're just barely figuring the whole thing out). I'm just try…
/r/seduction05/11/09 06:35 PM
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Horrible example. Proves my point way better than yours. Any person that has gone through any type of tough training and seen any type of considerable gains will tell you that there are times when they wanted to give up. Discipline is the only thing that gets you through those moments of doubt when you wonder if the end result is really worth so much discomfort, and gives you the ability to say, "This is pretty tough, but I've kept it up this long, I might as well keep going." Honestly, you don'…
/r/seduction05/11/09 06:27 PM
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have you never heard of "rules of the game"? its a 30 day program/book written by neil strauss... you know, the writer of "the game"? anyways all of the daily tasks are very doable. if you don't manage to do it every day it wouldn't be the end of the world but it's just meant to get you out of your comfort zone. if he started it i would highly suggest that he finish it. no offense, but i highly draw your advice into question if you haven't even heard of neil strauss.
/r/seduction05/11/09 04:29 AM
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yeah, true. but there is something to be said to sticking to a plan that forces you to go out of your comfort zone on a consistent basis (even if some of the missions might make you look weird). if you skip one day then what is keeping you from skipping another just because it is too hard? i guess you should always take what you read with a grain of salt, but i like the idea of sticking to a plan.
/r/seduction04/11/09 10:26 PM
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besides agreeing with what's already been said i just wanna add that getting rejected isn't fun in any circumstance, but I think Mystery said that each rejection is a brick to build up your fortress of game. so if you realize that rejection is just part of the process maybe that will help. everyone has to deal with it as they calibrate their game and figure out their personal style. just stick with it. i think it was wayne gretski that said you miss 100% of the shots that you never take. i'm no …
/r/seduction04/11/09 10:19 PM
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cheers.
/r/seduction08/09/09 09:32 PM
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when i first started reading, my first guess would be that you need to develop better rapport and comfort when you first meet. maybe some of your numbers are just soft. you dont have to get into seduction after just meeting the person, and depending on where you met them it could even seem kind of awkward and weird, unless you have really tight game, but building strong comfort is doable and imo pretty important in getting a hard number. having said that i'm surprised that you weren't able to ge…
/r/seduction02/09/09 09:25 AM
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according to likus, but he doesnt teach pick up
/r/seduction25/08/09 05:38 PM
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i'm not usually so direct either, but i think eablokker might have a pretty good point here. being clear with your intentions would probably help ur target feel a lot more at ease
/r/seduction07/08/09 01:07 AM
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kinda lame. just a troll trying to plug his lame book
/r/seduction23/03/09 02:43 AM
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