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TRP says alpha traits are ones that women are attracted to. So when you find results that women are attracted to alpha traits, you say "see, TRP is correct!" Do you not see the circular logic? "I want to feel feminine so tall guys only" = TRP confirmation. "I don't care about heights"/"I like short guys" = special unicorns. Can't win, huh? Who refuse to be sexually attracted? Is the reason you don't date fatties because you actively and consciously refuse to be sexually attracted? Why don't you …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 04:16 AM
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Guilt is an useless emotion. Even if you aren't employees, have a regular sleeping cycle. Seriously, very irregular sleeping habit will make you more prone to your weaknesses, like giving in to bad thought cycle or impulse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 03:29 PM
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You are paying higher tax for two people's mishap. It takes more than one woman to make babies. Govt don't give out money to single moms for shits and giggles, they give them money so the kids can have their basic needs met.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 03:09 PM
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When I had been dating this guy back in college for about 6 months, he had a chance to go abroad to Europe for a year. I told him that he could sleep with girls there if he wanted to. My motivation was to be a "cool" girlfriend (misguided notion in retrospect) and I did not have ulterior motive of giving him free pass to bargain for my free pass to sleep with others. He didn't take it because he didn't want to and and I'm glad as we went on to enjoy a couple of more years of dating. If you can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 11:13 PM
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He's also obsessed about college girls being slayed by black ghetto guys left and right and their lack of racial loyalty to white men. I've never seen such thing in my uni. If you were a popular athlete, sure. But that's for any popular athletes. Most white people date white folks and most black people date black folks. If anything, the biggest interracial in college campuses would be white guys and asian girls. So where's their loyalty to white women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 03:18 AM
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Explicitly, never been rejected because I've never explicitly asked. For me, all my relationships stemmed from friendships. But I've had people who were uninterested when I've shown interest, people who've told me they weren't attracted to my race, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 02:22 AM
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Do you have yellow fever? If not, why particularly asian girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 11:51 PM
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I agree about keeping tabs. Though I do however keep general tab on certain things not because we need to divide everything 50/50 for the sake of fairness (we don't) but because if I don't like something that he does or doesn't do, I need to determine whether it's a trend before bringing it up to discussion. If it's a one off insignificant thing, then whatever. And "tit for tat" wont' get you far. I think the important bit is to find the right balance between the two and that's where we derive o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 11:16 PM
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I've never propositioned sex outside relationships, so never.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 10:12 PM
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That's assuming guys are getting into relationship to just get sex. I'm sure it's true for some guys out there but a lot of guys go into relationship because they want to be in a relationship. If you don't want eat a jelly donut because you can get jelly without the donut, then you never wanted the donut. So if anything, having jelly without the donut is a good thing because if he wants a jelly donut that I'm offering, then I know he wants my jelly donut, not just for jelly since he can get jell…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 10:06 PM
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It's one of those books you will need to read it slowly over a long period time. It's short but what you need to digest is pretty dense. Even if I could sum it up, it'd be a terrible disservice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:40 PM
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If I want something I have to ask for it. Want certainly doesn't mean I will get. Are you RPW? Can I ask why you are okay with that? For me, my partner can definitely reason with me as to why my purchase may or may not be a good idea and it's on me to make the decision. Same goes for my partner. Since we aren't married we have separate finances but even when we eventually live together, I don't see it changing too much. So for me to be denied, and not reasoned with, I'd be resentful that my fina…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:29 PM
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What's your pill affiliation if any? And are you happy with how things are now?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:13 PM
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Your family sounds very functional and well managed. I'm glad RPW works for you and your family. I have a couple of questions. When your husband suggests something you really don't want, does his like override your dislike? Or would that not happen because he knows you and/or you'd communicate your dislike and it would be dropped? He sets the tone and the vision for your family. Do you have vision for your family? You can trust your husband and still have your own vision. You spent a lot of time…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:07 PM
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I think what OP is trying to argue is that one's slutness is directly determined by her intent than her SMV (and that intent is linked to her SMV), not that people should give them slack because she's low SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 08:50 PM
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Perhaps their SMV of a man differs from what you think his SMV? In your opinion, what determines a man's SMV? To me, SMV is sorta like BMI in the sense that it's an overly generalized standard to gauge measurable qualities/quantities. So you can apply to a very wide demographic but 1. you will get overly generalized result - meaning it ignores many other important rules 2. you can't apply it to individuals because there's more than a simplified equation to a person
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 06:25 PM
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It's an interesting book. One of those books where you have to make underlines and your notes to digest it and make it your own. This is a good reminder to find that book and actually finish it. Did you like it if you read it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 06:16 PM
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Maybe they sensed your pity and didn't like it. Even if I'm not low SMV, I don't want pity attention from a higher SMV. If I'm not valuable to you then leave me be and go on your way. You are wasting both of our time. Pity friendship is patronizing as shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 05:56 PM
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That makes sense. TRP laughs at and mocks single mothers because deep down, TRP is attracted to single mothers. Atheists laugh at mock Christians because deep down, Atheists are secretly attracted to Christians. SJW tumblerinas laugh at and mock creeps and rapists because deep down, SJW tumblerinas can't resist creeps and rapists. It's a compliment, guys! Learn to enjoy it!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 04:15 AM
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If you are looking for dating advice, you should note that in your OP and BP is not the place to go. It's a satire of RP and their objective isn't to give dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 06:18 PM
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It's not a binary system of either RP or BP. It's a spectrum and really BP is just anti-RP. They don't have an agenda or an ideology, they are comprised of people who think RP is silly/awful/hateful and it is just a place for circlejerk. For BP esque subreddit, I'd go to /r/relationships. Just like any other places, learn to ignore echo chamber/circlejerk and pick out what you want out of it and you will see some sound advice. But like BP, it doesn't have an agenda or ideology although they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 06:12 PM
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I don't know other blogs but everybody that I know who's aware of Jezebel thinks it's a fucking joke and this was since a long time ago even before SJW was a thing. And my social circles are composed of progressive liberal feminist leaning people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:58 PM
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You can write pages and pages on one simple human interaction and still lose the subtle nuances. As another person who's somewhat socially awkward, I do wish there's was a rule book but the reality is that what we consciously perceive is a sum of what we consciously understand and what we subconsciously/instinctively pick up. It's bound to be vague and forever situational.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:42 PM
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Dude, seriously get a job. Like, any job. I've been through long unemployment period with internet addiction. It's not a good place and once you are in, it's hard to come out of it. You gotta get out of the house and have a sense of purpose for existing. Without the latter, it's a dead end.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:34 PM
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It might be that some women think legalized prostitution and they associate having to have what they consider intimate to be shared with, or worse - forced upon by - strangers who may have STDs, be unkempt and smelly, be a serial rapist/killer, etc. So that could explain such reaction. As for me, if it actually does not worsen human trafficking, I'm okay with it. Whatever happens between consenting adults is not my business. Some people genuinely like having sex and in that case, why not make a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 02:03 AM
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Why should they be? Not that I encourage or discourage interracial relationships/hookups, why is racial "loyalty" an important thing? Do you think Asian women should stick to Asian men? How about ethnicity then? Do Irish guys owe their dicks to Irish women only?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 12:04 AM
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Most white women don't seriously consider black men for anything other than sexual experimentation in college/high school. I agree. But the converse isn't true. Most white women don't seriously consider black men for anything other than sexual experimentation. And most white women also don't seriously consider black men for just sexual experimentation either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 11:30 PM
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Ghetto black guys getting 30% of white girls? Unless you are talking about poor suburban trailer park, I don't think that's even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 11:26 PM
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What region are you from? I'm from East Coast US.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 11:05 PM
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Here's my observation: usually the white girls I've seen date black guys were not so smart, fat, with low self esteem. And I wouldn't be surprised if they are the same type of people who buy into stereotypes and openly brag about it. It has been my experience that people on lower end of socioeconomic ladder put a lot of emphasis on sex. And that means people are more free to express their desire for sex yet at the same time people tended to exaggerate their sexual desire/prowess because that was…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 10:41 PM
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There's no one who is perfect. If you are shooting for perfect, you gonna fail. There are plenty of women who devote some time for self care and self improvement, for themselves and/or for their partners. Anecdote: I knew a guy who broke up with his gf after a couple of years because she was trying too hard to be what she thought he wanted her to be. When someone tries to fit in the mold, the interest dies. His SMV wasn't high - not ugly, decent job, obese, very intelligent. Her SMV was okay - o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 02:01 PM
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I agree with your list about the misconceptions about women, with the FZ and the "amusing" guide, not so much. You don't have to be a player to get the love/romance you want. If you are a player, a certain kind of women are bound to reject you for that and you are also bound to attract a certain kind. Anyway, I personally think guys (and girls) should play the field without being a player. I know lots of RPers "like" the Sandberg's quote telling women to date bad/cool/noncommittal guys before se…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 01:46 PM
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You don't have to subscribe to RP to know social dynamics. "Alphas" know it instinctively - it only serves those who couldn't grasp or who like discussing it. RP concentrates on how the girls have got out of whack... Because thats what interests males. If you want to make observation on how A is and how A interacts B, unless B is a total nonreactive, B is worthwhile to note as well. Girls and non-RP guys who can't get what they want should recalibrate for sure or at least know what they want is …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 01:12 PM
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I'd be okay with living in a world where somehow everybody gets the amount of sex they want, whether it's once a month or 3 times a day, whether there needs emotional string or not, etc. Don't know how that's gonna happen but that sounds fantastic. I don't think the abundance of sex and thus competition for women will install humanities at all. If anything, now everybody now can devote their time they used to think/obtain sex on other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 12:12 AM
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Sorry, I meant former. I don't believe that there's "someone" out there for everybody. People have managed to find partners who can tolerate/overlook/understand them despite major flaws but that's not a guarantee.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 04:48 PM
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This is very crude math but using $300K figure, a child costs $1410/month. Average income is apparently $50,500 in US which amounts to $4208/month. That is about 33% of pre-tax income being used just to raise a child. That's pretty nuts if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 04:39 PM
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Besides the stories I've read on Internet about catholic girls or pastor's daughters offering anal to save "virginity", I don't think I know anybody who has done anal with someone and not had oral/vaginal with that person. Whether you have to multiply by 3 to get there real count is true or not, you will never know because she will tell you N and you won't believe it, you'd think 3N. Personally I've never lied. I don't want to be lied to so I don't lie. But I don't doubt at all that some women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 04:30 PM
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If the child went to a private school and had expensive hobbies, I can easily see monthly child support to be higher than 2k.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 04:10 PM
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Not who you replied to, but yeah. I don't have too much sympathy for athletes or celebs getting paid exorbitant sum of money but even so, when I hear about some NBA or NFL player's ex wife getting paid some ridiculous amount alimony, yeah it ruffles my feathers. Maybe she gave up her lucrative career to support him. Maybe there's compensation for abuse. But for all I know, they just may be gold diggers and people with assets (whether is millions of dollars or a tiny log cabin your grandpa built)…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 04:04 PM
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Is your wife aware of what she does and why she does it? If not, have you tried explaining to her her own subconscious acting out? What was her response?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 02:09 PM
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I began to understand their point of view better, the typical Western viewpoint became more and more incomprehensible to me. What are some of these western viewpoints and how do they approach it? People don't people who've survived economic hardships. When things are hard, others will take advantage of you and you can't survive being naive and chasing ideals. You have only yourself to look out for you and you must be able to calculate and assess realistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 02:01 PM
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Because they wanted to get out of the economic slump and if marrying an American man and meeting his needs got them out, then it was worth it for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 01:49 PM
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Why did you want to be his friend? For possibility of dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 01:42 PM
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There's a difference between show of emotion and revealing vulnerabilities that us humans have, and show of emotional instability. If the girl can't or don't want to handle the former, then obviously this girl isn't a LTR material and you need to move on or just keep it casual. If latter, then you must work on yourself to improve the situation. And if you decide to pursue LTR, she must be able to understand and willing to work with your issues. If not, you are not doing anybody especially yourse…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 01:32 PM
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If she can't reasonably give you what you reasonably ask for, then it's no good. Not that relationships are strictly business contract but at the end of the day, quid pro quo. Are you getting what you need? Is she? If not, let it be what it only was and it's time to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 10:50 PM
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Who are they? If you were not a rich woman who had six kids, do you think your husband would let you stay at home and do nothing while he worked at a farm? Maybe they didn't allow women to do physical labor because they didn't have strengths and stamina that were required, not because women were precious flowers who shouldn't sweat a single drop. Just look at industrial revolution. People were absolutely okay with abusing weaker poorer class whether they were men, women or children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 09:02 PM
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Care to explain why it may be ignorant or dishonest?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 05:10 PM
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When a girl goes out to a club or a bar with intention of having sex, then she wants sex not relationship. The "I feel he used me for sex" comes from dating situation where they had the chance to communicate about their intention. Some guys will talk sugar and mislead the other party. Some girls think having sex with them will make them stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 03:39 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion of possible jobs. I'm not good with history and wasn't sure what would've been available for men or women back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 03:30 PM
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What is irrelevant? I don't get what's a lie. Sure you can always try and do something else and of course nobody is entitled to anything. But what you are saying is the system you live inside and depend on doesn't matter at all. It's certainly more true now than before but what if you wanted to be a doctor but no place would accept you? It's not that women are entitled to be a doctor but that they weren't given a chance to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 03:27 PM
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I'm assuming that I knew what I wanted and started carpentry young (say, 9 yo) via family or apprenticeship, but I"m not assuming that I'd be born into family business with wealthy clients. Just providing various scenarios of where carpenters can end up. I really don't think physical strength would be such a game changer except in the third case I mentioned. If I had started when I was young and/or I've been doing it for a while, I'd develop strength and the endurance needed. Would I ever be str…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 03:18 PM
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Woman
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:40 PM
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Before feminism, it wasn't you could, it was you had to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:25 PM
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I'm aware it'd be hand tools. I'd have to hire extra hands. Even if I were a man, I can't carry big lumbers by myself. It'd be 2-3 men job to transport lumber from the source to my workshop. I don't know too much about carpentry so I could be wrong. But once you are in for certain sort of carpentry, say furniture for rich folks, you will have to have hire people to pick out lumber, to do menial/grunt work, to stain wood, to do detailed/ornamental inlay, to measure and cut things accurately, etc.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:23 PM
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Can you expound on what kind of jobs are available then, aside from farmhands, merchants and house/kids carer? I'd like to be carpenter since I like getting handsy. Make things that are useful for your regular poor farming folks and/or make something pretty for the rich folks who can pay for what they want. I probably would marry and have kids because that's what'd be expected of me and I'm not opposed to it. But if I were making enough money, I'd hire nanny and maids to take care of house thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 01:09 PM
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I'd say black guys feel the need to act and appear alpha than white guys due to cultural expectations. I don't think any race is particularly alpha or beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 03:48 AM
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But if you have drifted apart, you wouldn't be so sad. I saw in your other reply about your wedding vows being forever. So I can understand that as someone who's madly in love the prospect of divorce and apathy sound terrible. But if you stopped trying, you don't care and when you are at the point of not caring, it won't hurt as bad as it would otherwise. But I do agree that some people can work past infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 03:29 AM
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As a child of unhappy marriage, I wish they had divorced a while ago. It's not too late, mom and dad!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 03:18 AM
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Infidelity for sure. Sure divorce can be messy and hurtful but it doesn't always have to be. For those who think divorce is worse, can you explain your reasoning?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:26 AM
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These red flags aren't always outright obvious. I know lots of TRP folks think awful about Sheryl Sandberg's advice to women on dating (tl;dr - date bad/cool/crazy/etc boys) and its Feminine Imperative/agenda. Whatever you think of it, it'd be wise for men to apply this mentality too. Go date a shy girl, wild girl, bad/cool/good girl etc. You will learn distinguish red flags from individual quirks, learn your own likes/dislikes, your boundaries, etc. Some people are naturally good at figuring th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 10:00 PM
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Do you think some of these qualities should apply to you as well? Like being pleasant to be around all the time, indulging on her interests and hobbies, never nagging, not being asshole to her or others, being attentive to her needs as much as yours, not cheating on her, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 07:08 PM
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How's that going to help you? If you are looking for LTR, then a guy worth his salt (aka self respect) would know that you are pulling dread game and he won't respond to that. It could work on younger guys or who don't care for LTR. But you will find that a lot of people in their late 20s or older don't care for mind games.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:22 PM
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So if all women are like that, then there's no way of avoiding such situation unless you decide to stick to just short terms. Men with super model wives have cheated. Women with handsome rich husbands have cheated. Having very high SMV doesn't prevent your partner from cheating because serial cheaters gonna cheat no matter what and if there's some deep relationship problem that's not being addressed, high SMV doesn't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 11:27 AM
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I agree it's unfair to men. I either offer to split (which usually is turned down) or pay for next date/activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 11:12 PM
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Teasing and joking done well of course increases attraction. But if not done well, you come off cheap, rude and/or entitled which is obviously negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 10:51 PM
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Tinder sure works for men wanting short term sexual engagement and nobody shames men for using Tinder, Craigslist, etc. Not BP, not your regular people, not even feminists. The dislike of TRP comes from the general dismissive and unpleasant manner toward an entire demographic with very sweeping over generalization. I'd have problem with TRP if it advocates for gay men to use other men for sex and dispose at will (again nothing wrong with casual hook ups, it's the attitude people have issue with)…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 06:51 PM
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Do you have a link to that post? I'd be interested in reading that study.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 01:24 PM
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I sorta see both happen where women are less likely to bring it up in public but in my experience it's the kind of people in your group. I can see some guys call something pussy whipped if it's not considered to be "manly" or you as a man is being dominated or controlled, say if you are drinking with your buddies late and texting to let your gf/wife know. That's a courtesy to me but some people will object to it surely bc you don't have to answer to no one. And add that you don't always know wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 01:10 PM
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That women want nice guys? It's true though. Nobody wants to date assholes or bitches. But you can't have "nice" as your sole redeeming quality. Why pick just nice guy over nice and funny guy? Okay maybe they should say they want nice and attractive guys, whatever these attractive qualities are. But these qualities can't be quantified for an entire demographic. There are women who love olive tan skin over white blond blue eyes. Some care about humor and fun even if the guys were slightly arrogan…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 04:07 AM
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Tbh I never hear the phrase "know how to treat women right" in my social circle. Women talk/brag about good/awesome/cool/romantic thing their bfs do/did. I can think of a couple where the guy was sorta what you described in you OP. I also can think of a couple where the guy was kinda controlling. In both cases, people were slightly uncomfortable to call out on the behaviors because they weren't outright wrong enough to but people definitely talked and not in favor of the "abusive" ones regardles…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:45 AM
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Women don't hate betas and incels. They just won't date them. If anything it's the incels who hate women. Also you don't have to be a beta or incel to be part of MRA. Yeah they've got bad rep for misogyny but 1. at the core of MRA, it's not inherently against feminism and 2. men or women can be MRA and look out for men's interest without having been wronged by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:33 AM
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Of course it's useless. Who wants to date an asshole or a massive self centered bitch? Everybody wants someone nice (unless they are emotionally stunted/broken). But that "nice" isn't a sufficient requirement for dating and other requiems vary by person. Sure Alan is nice but he has a sense of humor of a doorknob with intelligence of a shoe. Sure Beth is nice but she's only content to be part timer at a cafe forever. Sure Chad is nice but he only wants casual hookups. Sure Diana is nice but she …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 10:00 PM
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It sounds like something an old granny would say to her daughter or granddaughter with a good intention but it obviously doesn't align with our time. At the risk of sounding naive, in my opinion having someone to love as much as you possibly can is a such a wonderful thing for your own self and people should strive for that. I mean, wouldn't you rather find someone who you can love at 100% capacity than at 75% for illusion of "he probably won't screw around"? At the same time, you should be prag…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 08:03 PM
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I wouldn't say mentally ill, more mentally unstable. And frankly I'm not surprised because a lot of people can't be bothered to do some deep self introspection to understand what it is that they do and why, because it is uncomfortable. Having sex for (subconscious) self worth is just one form of manifestation of this nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 03:04 AM
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Psychology BS doesn't mean much. Let alone BA.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 06:59 PM
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Yeah he was flirting with other girls. Did that get him sex? Nope. That's why he used break up as bargaining chip.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 06:35 PM
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when he said he was breaking up with her she was willing to do anything in order to prevent that from happening That's not a dread game. He's free to break up with a girl who doesn't want to have sex with him and he used that as a bargaining chip to get sex. I don't consider that as RP or PUA. If he got her to have sex with him by flirting with other girls - subtly and nonverbally letting her know he has choice - that'd be dread game.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 06:10 PM
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Not RP but why would you ever want to date (let alone marry) someone with mental illness? Some people can overlook it, some people actually like (consciously or subconsciously) mentally ill partners for their own emotional hangups. But that's their prerogative. Life is hard enough. Wouldn't you want someone who can pull their own weight or more? My life is not a charity case.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 05:50 PM
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Why don't 13 year old girls go for Hugh Hefner? He's got all the alpha traits AND money+fame+status. I mean, how many 13 year old boys can claim to have banged a single Playmate??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 09:13 AM
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If it's an emergency, I'd advise you to call 911 and when you have a chance, please share your experience with /r/circlejerk
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 09:08 AM
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Do you feel the need to secure the survival or preservation of white race?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 09:06 AM
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Hmm. Idk. Maybe something like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 08:06 AM
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But why does that matter to you though? Why is your suffering relative to Chads?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 08:03 AM
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I just started attending buddhist temple again and apparently suffering is unavoiable. Inevitable. Even for Chads and Stacys. Avoiding suffering is just postponing. So tell me why being a beta is so bad, when you are gonna suffer anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 07:13 AM
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it has NEVER EVER helped me attract women. There needs to be some sort of chemistry to begin with. Without it, money, fame or status doesn't much. (Well, they do to some gold digging kind but most people tend to not want to date the sort.)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 04:46 AM
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The most typical case is when someone is being disrespectful to you. You don't have to start a fight, but giving the appearance of submission is going to get you to lose attractiveness. So why is that shit testing, as opposed to evaluating? Nobody wants to date doormats or people who can't stand up for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 01:42 AM
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Funny since the very reason of "talking about the most mundane things" is why a lot of TRPers say they don't like talking to women, they should leave men to their golden silence, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 01:28 AM
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As long as both parties have positive experiences, damn my feelings and have more of those positive experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 12:02 AM
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Manipulative label comes when they enter a relationship beyond casual sex. You wouldn't find it surprising that the older party will have easier time manipulating someone much younger than someone his age who has been there or done that. If a man in his 40s date an 18 yo, is he necessarily manipulating the girl? No. In fact, the 18 yo could be manipulating some hapless 40 yo. But chances are good that in cases of very skewed power dynamic, it's the more experienced and the more financially secur…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 12:00 AM
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If I were to find out that Brad Pitt or George Clooney likes to sleep around 18 year olds, I'd still find it creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 11:33 PM
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Oops. It's been a while since I've watched it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 07:56 AM
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They met in her teenage years and he said "only 17 years" so assuming he's around her age, he is around 30, give or take a few. It's pretty sad he'd been pining for this girl for 17 years. But you can't wait your life around people hoping for the best and hoping they'd just "realize." It's part of becoming a mature adult knowing that you can't change other people and you gotta move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 07:46 AM
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Haven't watched The Notebook. In Titanic, they wanted to create "one true/pure love" scenario. If the guy has all the money and status, it's not surprising that many women would take his hand. Rose's love wouldn't be any more special than any other woman's love because it's easy. When the guy is not only poor and lower class, but dating him means costing you your fortune, stability and most likely your comfortable future, the stake is higher. Most, esp women from the time period immigrating to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 07:29 AM
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Money probably helps but money is not gonna get you that many girls if you were a sullen insecure killjoy. He's got big bucks, he knows it and isn't afraid to throw it around, he's not terribly insecure because he makes it rain and obviously has some aggressive/assertive go-getter traits that a lot of women love.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 07:20 AM
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Why do we have some many RPillers complaining that women date immigrants (who usually aren't the richest)? Really? IME immigrants usually hangout in their own communities and a good portion don't have education to work in fields where they can work/meet/date white people. Do they see Hispanic/SAsian/EAsian men and automatically assume immigrant?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 06:47 AM
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Less creepy? No. More like famous people can attract all kinds of people and famous people gonna do what famous people can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 06:36 AM
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I'm asking you what feminine (not feminist) characteristics or traits you consider to be detrimental for a man to have. What makes them "passive bitches"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 04:44 AM
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I mean, I can think of a couple of people who could spew such nonsense but let's just say, there are good reasons why they don't have friends. Anyway, I have not heard any similar claims from a physical person I've met.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 04:39 AM
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Unfortunately, it really depends on who you ask. I have considered myself to be Gen X actually but apparently wiki says people who were born 1980~2000. My high school days is a mix from AOL/dialups and memorized phone numbers, to (briefly beepers and then to) cellphones with green background, DSL and early mp3 players. So what feminine characteristics do you not approve in men? And are there any feminine characteristics men are okay to have?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 04:16 AM
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Born in mid 80s. Men have no economic libido anymore because they don't work at a young age anymore, and thus don't learn important skills. I do think that a lot of people in my generation are coddled, going from school to university to corporate workforce and not experiencing outside of middle class bubble. But can't say whether that made an impact on millenials having less sex. Fear of rape. The rape hysteria makes women afraid of men, and men afraid of false accusations. There wasn't much fea…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 03:46 AM
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If I wanted to overly generalize, I would have said all TRPers really like to overly generalize ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 03:40 AM
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If you're out on a date and you just try to kiss a girl, instead of being considered as forward you're labeled a contributor to rape culture. Do you actually know anybody who spews such ridiculous notion aside from random internet SJW tumblrists? Maybe it's because I don't hangout with teens and early 20s people who can be easily influenced and parrot without thinking too much. But in my circle (late 20s ~ 30s), if anyone said "I went on a date with A and he tried to kiss me without permission! …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 03:23 AM
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A lot of TRPers really like to overly generalize. People are only their genders and not much more. If you are man, you are either Chad Thundercock banging HB9s who'd never want LTR because casual sex is always better than LTR, or abused beta who is either an orbiter or cannot be in a healthy relationship. If you are a woman, you are just a rating that shittests and divorce-rapes.. and don't forget you are a CC riding hypergamous slut who's gonna get on the next bigger dick you see. No exceptions…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 02:38 AM
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You can read my reply to him here. It gives you air of shitlibbery because it is. I try to be gender-neutral (shitlibbery strikes again!) so people don't let my gender color what I've wrote. And partner is more convenient than bf/gf/wife/husband. It can be used for both genders and regardless of marital status.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 01:53 AM
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Yeah, I'd definitely agree that a good portion of relationships are men-led, reflecting the households they grew up in and many other relationships around them. My point is that, if someone wants to be more domineering or submissive, regardless of gender, find someone who's complementary. As long as they are happy, who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 01:44 AM
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Properly fucked in the head.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 01:00 AM
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Therein lies the disagreement. I'm sure both TRP and TBP agree that there are boot licking groveling pansies. No doubt. TRP thinks majority of men are so and TBP thinks they are a minority. It also has to do with one's surrounding. If you are socially well adjusted person, the chances are 1. you gravitate towards people who are similar like you and 2. you may not notice or may disassociate with desperate pansies. And if you are the boot licking pansy kind, 1. you gravitate towards people who are…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 12:55 AM
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Yeah, and what's wrong with that? If a woman wants her partner to lead 50%, 75%, or even 100% and her partner wants that, that's what makes him and her happy and there's nothing wrong with it. But she doesn't have to follow just because she's a woman and men are supposedly "natural leaders." If a man wants his woman to lead, so be it. Let them be. Who are you or me to say that's bad or wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 12:28 AM
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Sure you can with two people with such understanding and such want. What BP argues is that it depends on individuals in it, rather than determining it strictly by gender. Men don't have to lead, women don't have to follow; men can lead if they want, women can follow if they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 11:31 PM
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I certainly know a lot of couples who are like that. I see couples where I wonder why the hell the woman stays with the guy Confirmed: women always fishing for better catches, never satisfied with beta bux How does a high SMV woman in relationship with a low SMV man prove that she's always looking for better catches?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 10:43 PM
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For you perhaps. I think good majority of men and women are incapable not looking at others. Some act on it, some don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 10:40 PM
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But then you are settling for low SMV person for comfort. Whether that's a fair trade will depend on individuals, but I have a hunch that TRP doesn't advocate settling for comfort. Otherwise why would you want self-respect which you can do away with for comfort? Why set boundaries? You'd erase it for sake of comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 10:35 PM
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I don't want another man or woman in my romantic life. If he doesn't want monogamy, he's free to go find someone else that's not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 10:19 PM
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Who knows. He says he's monogamous and he holds himself to his own (high) standard so I take his word for it. If he cheats, I'll know my goodman radar failed and that will be the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 10:02 PM
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Why? If you want to bang people left and right, go ahead. But I'm not gonna do that because that's not me and apparently my bf feels the same way. Also, I'm not gonna ruin my relationship over some random suggestion from the internets.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 09:28 PM
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It's all about finding balance right? Once you enter relationship/marriage and esp with kids in the equation, certain things will have to be re-prioritized in order to maintain and nurture the relationship with your partner/kids. But that doesn't mean you should give up all your dreams and desires. It's absolutely essential to have time for yourself and to develop your dream. If you have 4 hobbies maybe make one or two as your primary hobbies and the rest as secondary hobbies which comes after y…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 09:22 PM
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Yeah I already specified monogamous relationship. I don't want anybody else even if it was just physical and he feels the same way. Also, he ain't got no time for another gal on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 08:59 PM
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Huh, all this time I kinda assumed RPW was similar to RP - improve yourself, don't put the opposite sex on a pedestal, etc. So RPW is more about following men. My bf tends to be aggressive go getter and takes initiative and likes those traits in other people be it friends or partners, but definitely more so in partners. He doesn't want someone who follows him blindly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 08:51 PM
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I should have clarified I'm F and my partner M. What are these shit tests? Is it when they purposely create a problematic situation to gauge your reaction? My partner doesn't do it and neither do I. If I were to shit test him, he would most likely be able to sense it as he knows me and he'd think it's weird first couple of times. Then either second or third time (or even first if it's outrageous enough), he'd bring it up, ask me why I did what I did and ask me to stop. If I were to continue, he'…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 08:43 PM
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I'm always trying to improve myself and self improvement is not exclusive to TRP. Considering that I'm already in LTR, what are TRP tactics people can implement while in monogamous relationships/marriage? Give me a few example and I'll tell you whether I think it would work or not within my current relationship context. EDIT: I should mention I'm F in relationship with M both in 30s. I don't read RPW. I'll just substitute woman with man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 06:37 PM
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What TRP tactics did you implement and why do you think it didn't work?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 06:28 PM
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More like deranged.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 05:25 PM
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I never said women were excellent communicators. I'm just citing the article mentioned. Idk how about both parties should work on their communication skills like mature adults should? It includes letting your concerns known in the first place, being clear about it and approaching with openness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 05:01 PM
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I would not be surprised. I frequent /r/AmIUgly and significant portion (I'd guess 85+%) of people who post are at least normal looking and a big portion of them are actually good looking. And they usually ask the same question along the lines of "do boys/girls not like me because of my face?" To which I'd answer no, it's def not your looks - it's your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 04:53 PM
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You'd be surprised how many people don't see that they are not attractive. A lot of fat people know they are fat but a lot don't either. They can't be objective about their appearance because they see it everyday. You've become habituated and familiarized and now you consider what you see in the mirror as "norm". Explains why some realizes it only when they see themselves in different perspective, like a photo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 12:02 AM
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But it means that unchained cavewoman biology of her subconscious is playing a more dominant role in her sex life. What is cave woman biology and how does it affect her sex life?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 08:04 PM
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You must be new here. AWALT(All Women Are Like That) is their motto.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 07:57 PM
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Here goes TRPtastic overgeneralization again. It doesn't take a genius as to what we want and it never changes: food; sex; silence. This falls in line with TRP's ideal stoic masculine man from the bygone era where women were seen but not heard. By gods, two people communicating is so feminine and a manly man wouldn't stoop so low! How is your wife supposed to know how you like your steaks cooked if you don't communicate? I suppose they can use their womanly sense to figure out and if you don't l…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 07:55 PM
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People get higher status job not just for the status or money. It is empowering to your intellect and skills to be imbued a hefty responsibility for millions of dollars, other people, etc. It is also empowering to see what difference or changes you can make as one single individual. Why do you think you are going to get rejected? Are you at a disadvantage? Sure. But other black women have also overcame the disadvantage. What makes you think that you can't when others have?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 05:16 PM
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Did you miss the part where women are willing to communicate where as men will brood and seethe and their wives wouldn't know about their unhappiness? Women are not mind readers ;) I'd like to know what makes a woman happy in marriage and what makes men happy. Anybody who can get the actual report?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 05:03 PM
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I said it will not make you into a hot WHITE woman. Do you really think being purely more attractive will somehow land you interests that you couldn't get before, considering you are decent looking? Go to /r/AmIUgly. Look at all those people who think they don't get interests from opposite sex because they are ugly. Are they really not attractive? You will find most are normal looking at least and some are pretty hot. And they still say they don't attract opposite sex. Guess what, it's the vibe …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 04:55 PM
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Also, around where I work, east coast metropolitan area, there are lots of people in the higher ups (like CFO or equivalent) who are colored women. Black, Asian, White, Hispanic, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 04:36 PM
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Again you are conflating two fundamental concepts. You want to discuss your personal issue but you make it into a black woman issue. Yes you are a black woman and that is a part of you but is that all you are? Not all black women go through similar situation but even if a majority of black women suffer from one particular thing, it does not mean you personally suffer from that particular thing. You have difficulty communicating here because you fail to see that your personal issue is NOT a black…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 04:20 PM
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Why? Because it reinforces all the actions you have found to be hurtful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 04:03 PM
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It's not about literally lowering your expectation. It's about adjusting your perspective realistically. Because let's face it, you will never be a hot white woman even if you went Michael Jackson on your skin. Neither will I be nor anybody else who is not a hot white woman. If you get the short end of the Life stick, sucks to be you but you gotta make the best of what you've got. Being angry is not going to make other treat you better, make racists suddenly see you as epitome of beauty, eradica…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 03:51 PM
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That's right. It's YOUR issue. It's Miss Genifer's issue and we don't know what you look like, how you behave, how you come across or just about anything except you are a black woman. Even then we are just random internet strangers with different ideas and values. What is it that you want to get out of this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 03:04 PM
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Here's the thing. You are a black woman but you are not an average black woman because you as an individual cannot encompass a whole demographic. And by your logic of people who don't belong in your demographic cannot inherently understand your situation, maybe you should only look for comments from other black heterosexual women in certain age range, from similar political and socioeconomic background, and who share similar physiological and psychological characteristics as you. People replied …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 03:00 PM
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Latter. I wasn't particularly a mature person when I was 21. If I had not dated around (is fling strictly casual sex or dating in general?) I wouldn't have made the mistakes that I learned from and would go through the mistakes with "the love of my life" be it at age 21, 26, 32, 45 or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 05:11 AM
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Why? How does less experience in dating lead to being a good partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 02:35 AM
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A. I wouldn't consider that a rational argument. B. He didn't post to discuss, he came to tell his viewpoint because he's right. C. Sure it's an overreaction - it's a reaction to TRP's tendency to overly generalize to the point that you are only your gender and if you are female, your age and hotness. C.1. But what did he expect from a circlejerk subreddit? D. I'll address his point. If you want to make a real change then date that loser nice guy... My time is precious. Your time is precious. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 02:29 AM
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You could be LTR oriented and still be emotionally immature. I can just think back to when I was in late teens and early twenties and I now know that I would not have made a good partner. There are many people who are mature by then and can commit and work on healthy relationship but by far, most can't and need to experience more before they can be good partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 01:33 AM
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I'd consider age to be a very relevant info to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 11:02 PM
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It's a bit of both. A lot of lower class women will go into low wage earning jobs because going to university is not affordable. There's no govt subsidized loans with low interest rates. Or they are very far and few between. You also have to understand, when you submit a resume in SK, you have to attach a portrait of yourself. So they can figure out your gender and age. And it's not uncommon for women and men to get plastic surgeries because looking ugly is a hindrance to getting hired.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 02:06 PM
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Oh man, you can't say something like that and not link. Who's this guy? I want to know!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 01:45 PM
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There are many contributing factors. It's really a rat race there. If you want to go to good uni, you need to take SAT like exam. Except it's yearly and you can only take it when you are 12th grade. So you have to study hard and that means you have to be overly academically educated since pre-k. Not unusual for elementary grade kids to go to school and then go to after school or private tutoring until 9-10pm. Because you need to overly educate your kids, it's a LOT of money. Having more than two…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 12:56 AM
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Professionally, programmer. Leisurely, ultra/trail running, rock/ice climbing, singing in the shower or with my guitar/keys, making my own songs, obsessing about how to represent my daily activities and productivity in useful and cohesive manner while reducing redundancy on my paper journal. Camping, kayaking, drawing, shooting rifles/clay are nonhobbies that I enjoy doing but don't really put too much time into them to get better or gain deeper knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 11:13 PM
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I find that BPers are far more likely to take everything literally here than TRPers/RPers are. Because I don't know if you are just making a tongue-in-cheek comment or if you lie in the far-end of TRP spectrum and really believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 09:26 PM
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For your brunch Bloody Mary. But seriously, as long as it works for them (you don't see it, smell it, won't even know) who cares? EDIT: Did you know that your body is also a container for blood?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 08:51 PM
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Why is a man's value so dependent on SMV? I guess it really depends on what your definition of alpha men is but to me, someone who's alpha is knowing what he wants and what is right in his moral code. He understands where society stands but ultimately he doesn't care because he knows that he is not bound to society's standard. So he may or may not have high SMV, he'd be aware of how his SMV may help or hinder him in regards of dating but he doesn't care to raise SMV for the sake of dating and he…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 05:44 PM
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What are these game tricks?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 04:57 PM
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Does any of your guns tell you that you don't shoot them enough and want to find better owners?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 04:54 PM
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In couples where mismatched libido is the only major problem, now here's a great solution. In couples where mismatched libido is a symptom of underlying issues, it's not gonna help obviously. It can however help people brush things under the rug longer but they were brushing them under the rug before the pills anyway so it won't really change too much things. Or maybe they will have to face that lack of sex weren't the only issue they were having.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 04:31 PM
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There';s no way to say that without sounding misogynist. On paper I'm feminist and want women to have freedom to marry and divorce when they like. However that inevitably results in open unbridled hypergamy, and anti-male divorce laws etc. So that's something society can improve upon. While there are many places that women get preferential treatment, people are starting to catch up that not all women are saintly mothers and not all fathers are gruff blue collared men who can't connect to childre…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 02:11 PM
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I've seen smart people do stupid shit regarding relationships. Sometimes people are really blinded by emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 01:51 PM
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So do you think it's a good idea to curb premarital sex to happen to ensure betas get a partner? Why should men and women not have sex or have relationships before committing to a relationship just for minority of people though? Also what do you think are to proportion of alpha/beta men? I agree that women can get sex more easily than men for sure. But sometimes TRP comes across as only 20% of men are alphas and thus only 20% get regular sex. But IME men who can get it anytime he wants is much s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 01:47 PM
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Funny - in my circle, banter and teasing are both social indications. I think of banter as interpersonal thing between close friends, acquaintances or even strangers. Where as teasing is usually between or regarding opposite sex with a bit of flirting and intent to slightly embarrass someone. But for the latter, genuine teasing is knowing the audience, when to stop, not exposing below-the-belt insecurities, not with intent to harm someone's reputation, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 01:33 PM
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As long as you don't have sympathy for men who were told similar feel good advice sure why not. Nobody is owed sympathy. World lives on. Time keeps on flowing. Are you ugly? Are you disabled? Were you misinformed? Misunderstood? Your friends will get jobs, your acquaintances will get married, your family will move on too. Regardless of sympathy, empathy or lack of, people will continue to go through life and experience highs and lows, some will learn and some won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 05:03 PM
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Because there's no point in argument and application of logic if the basic premise is either wrong or not agreed by both parties. In fact that's why this sub won't be entirely fruitful because it's not really the logic that's lacking on either BP or RP side, the premise for RP is different than the premise of BP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 03:21 PM
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I have (limited) sympathy with Jim, Betty and Sally. You can't know what you don't know. So how do you know what you don't know? Branch out and experience things. Meet and date different people. Read books, web. Make more friends and acquaintances, talk and you will find what others do and how people operate under different circumstances. Adjust your perspective, reinforce your beliefs, etc. And the sympathy starts to run out as they get older still hoping advice A would start working any moment…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 03:10 PM
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Here's my take. There are many people in their 20s and early 30s making decent money in a city that never sleeps and there is always something is going on somewhere. They've got the means and the venue to explore and really why not? So she did, but you couldn't. Someone could do what you couldn't so of course now you put them as your superior and you are afraid that they are gonna find out and that you won't compete or compare, so on. There are people who can but don't because it just isn't thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 01:43 PM
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You are on a good path. I would highly recommend joining a running group, good for motivation distance wise and another great venue to socialize and make friends. Best wishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 12:22 AM
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As someone who's relatively new to TRP, what are the first steps you are taking? And as far as you are concerned, what do you think was the major factor in not receiving women's interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 10:13 PM
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Because that is exactly what TRP advocates. You can promote self-respect, personal growth, being an interesting person and whatever other positive aspects without resorting to AWALT, dread game, derogatory words like "hamstering" or CC, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 09:11 PM
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Suspecticle, testicle, ¯\(ツ)/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 06:49 PM
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Yeah, radicals are crazy but they are the vocal ones being heard. And the more moderates don't speak out against crazy ideas, the more legitimacy the movement loses no matter how valid it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 06:46 PM
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I didn't say standing up for men's right is unreasonable or misogynistic. Because it's not. What I'm trying to convey here is that in both of those communities, misogyny is prevalent and actively embraced by the majority. 1. Don't be surprised that people are put off by it 2. People aren't obligated to spend their time and effort into decoupling the legitimate issue and misogynistic atmosphere. The harder it is to decouple, the perceived legitimacy by general public will lessen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 06:27 PM
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Yes, because women in bikini holding guns is the epitome of female sexuality. /s It wasn't appropriate for professional setting for the same reason naked male body isn't disgusting or offensive yet it wouldn't considered professional.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 06:10 PM
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This is really weird. Granted I hung out with nerdy crowd, I'd bet most of people in my highschool circle were virgins or relatively inexperienced. If you are from US, what sort of region are you from? You don't need to be specific but it's very strange to me who's from NE metropolitan area.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 03:54 PM
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Why do you think hypergamy and love are mutually exclusive? If hypergamy means wanting better qualities in partner, men aren't exempt either. I'm sure men are capable of love even if they would wish their partner was fitter, hotter, kinder, better at cooking, earn more, more intelligent, better social standing, etc. You are operating under the premise that a woman in an established relationship will automatically leave for better partner when he comes along. IMO people don't leave relationship b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 03:40 PM
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One standard deviation covers 68% which is majority but hardly high enough to generalize. So then why not MWALT?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 03:04 PM
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By 10 years old high SMV women were calling me fat fuckface. Did you just call 10 year old girls high SMV women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 02:48 PM
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Legitimacy of BLM aside, IMO it's not about society being too PC to point out that most black people are killed by other black people, it's more about treatment from police who are to be held up to higher standard than your regular citizen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 07:20 AM
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What we are saying is that over-exaggeration of women's issues does nothing but to dilute the actual cases where women suffer injustice. Okay, humor me again. I agree with the statement. If a man undresses you with his eyes and that's "rape," then how is that comparable to those who were raped? Over exaggeration of severity sure pose an issue. Going back to "End violence against women" statement with room for misleading rate of violence, how does over exaggeration of rate (not severity like in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 06:54 AM
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Oh, hah, I do remember the shirt storm. I'm sorta amused by the shirt because it's so 80s and cheesy but he shouldn't have worn it in a professional setting. No, he definitely didn't deserve all the shit storm he got. Internet mob mentality is bad. what would you change? https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3gs4js/feminist_against_ending_violence_against_everyone/cu16yrz I think it imperative that you make it known that you are against the radical feminists/misandrists, separate fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 06:35 AM
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The "automatic thought" as you put it is that there is significantly more violence against women than there is against men Okay, that's fair. I did look up statistics. I happened to read about rate of violence perpetrated on men by women and on women by men. Percentage of violence on men perpetrated by women are much higher than I had previously believed. I am glad to have learned it and concede that it can be misleading. But again, it goes back to the intent. (I'm sure you are thinking it defin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 05:50 AM
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Being anti-feminist does not mean disagreeing with everything that's ever been done in the name of feminism. I agree. All I'm saying is this is how it is portrayed when people hear anti-feminist. Because the term feminist is broad enough to cover from civil rights era to modern day feminists, from egalitarians to radical misandrist feminazis. It's not surprising that people would have knee-jerk reaction to a term like anti-feminist. You can argue that those kind of people aren't wanted anyway bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 04:19 AM
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I'm aware that MRM and TRP are different. But I bet you most people who aren't familiar with either will put them in the same misogyny category and reasonably so. people are getting sick of feminism whining As the pendulum swings, it will at some point reach its max and swing downward. I still stand by my opinion that you guys could be selling it better. I don't really doubt that MRA will continue to grow as long as men's right are disregarded or threatened. have you forgotten about shirt storm …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 01:46 AM
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Often times in life, what isn't said is just as important as what is said. I don't disagree but sometimes it really is about what it says, nothing more and nothing less. Even for your dog example, if I were to encounter a slogan "Stop killing German Shepherds" my automatic thought would have been that there are some sort of situation in which German Shepherds are killed significantly more than other breeds. Anyway, implication is dependent on context that isn't always provided outright or clear …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 01:25 AM
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Here's my take on why "anti-feminist" movement won't take off. Feminism that most people associate with is the movement that achieved women's suffrage, liberated women from the traditional gender roles, promoted awareness of violence against women, etc. - things that are considered to be positive aspects of modern, civilized, first-world society. [Disclaimer: I'm not all too familiar with MRA so feel free to correct me] To my knowledge, MRA isn't against what I've listed above and shouldn't be s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 12:48 AM
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"End violence against women" means what it is. It doesn't mean "End violence against women but it's okay if violence against men continues"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 12:26 AM
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It's okay to not wanting to be lonely, whether you are in your 20s or 80s. You can be alone and not feel lonely or surrounded by people 24/7 and still feel lonely. Loneliness stems from the lack of want of you from others (be it romantic, platonic, familiar, etc) which you can infer that it is because you are not worth it. And who likes feeling low-worth? While I'm not one of those who don't want LTR (and by extension marriage), here are my two cents. You shouldn't be in a relationship because y…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 06:29 PM
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I don't consider or label myself as BP but I'm sure most RPers would label me as one because I don't think women and men are all too different and believe in (relatively) egalitarian values. So take what you will from my response. I'd be more than happy to support TRP if it was strictly self-respect. Not putting desired sex on some sort of pedestal, not staying in toxic relationships, not groveling for physical or emotional validation, be assertive, etc. In fact, if that was the case, I'd promot…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 05:37 PM
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Can you give us tl;dr for those who don't care to watch RPesque video at work?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 03:52 PM
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I literally said institutionalized discrimination has been abolished and is not the cause of lack of women in STEM. Not suggesting that universities or STEM field discriminate against women based on sex. Gender bias is a social phenomenon, not something that goes away by making rules and laws about it nor is it even enforceable. It's a deeply entrenched cultural belief system. Anyone would be a fool to believe that simply outlawing something will remove any and all effects of it. Laws don't chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 04:05 AM
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The people who are looking for equal representation are looking at wrong metrics on not necessarily correct premise. Their assumption is that women like STEM just as men. If this was indeed true then their logic that women should be equally represented makes sense. But do women really like STEM as men? Because if not, trying to have 50/50 is misguided at best and at worst it hurts both genders and the STEM field. So instead of trying to achieve some kind of quota on unproven premise, they should…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:24 AM
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IMO there are two different components in attraction - the raw physical attraction and the personality attraction. Obviously they weigh differently for each person and in most cases lack of one cannot make up for the other. And while latter requires some familiarity, it isn't about familiarity. Familiarity can breed comfort and I agree that comfort is not attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 10:55 PM
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The more interaction happens, esp in varying circumstances, the more you know about that person. It's simply not possible to really scope out the person in one interaction. The more you learn the more you can find qualities you like (or don't like). The agreeing qualities you find adds up on attraction meter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 08:38 PM
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Well, for something to be a joke, it needs to have a common and established premise with both author and the audience. Your joke is on an RP premise that BP argues against. Of course RP gets it and BP doesn't. Duh? Also disagreeing with an RP opinion isn't necessarily being PC, just like RP isn't necessarily anti-PC.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 08:26 PM
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But then why even agree to go on a date you aren't willing to really participate fully? That sounds like a waste of time if you are trying to date. If it's just a hook up, they aren't trying to hook up with your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 08:11 PM
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I'm saying it sucks when a girl gives you 1-word answers because they suck at being social as it makes it way harder to make the situation fun. But women in general, especially hot women, are pretty social. If they sucked at being social how do you think they go party and have fun? It's not that they suck, they aren't being social with YOU. Unless they are painfully shy, there obviously isn't chemistry btw you and them and they aren't terribly interested in you. I suspect that in case of latter,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 07:01 PM
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Where are you from?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 06:38 PM
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The problem is that I can see an RPer say it and really believe it. So yeah it's not unreasonable that a BPer believes that you believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 06:34 PM
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Your time is precious. Why waste it on someone who's not interested and not even trying? End of the fucking date.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 06:29 PM
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There is a fine distinction between evaluating based on one's action and intentional set up to gauge reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 03:03 AM
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And dark skin stays more beautiful as the person ages, as opposed to white. This gets repeated a lot but I don't see the truth in it. I don't think darker skin stays more "beautiful" than lighter skin, or vice versa, regardless of aging. My guess is that it originated from overly PC culture that comforts the non-idealized race (esp blacks) that at least their skin is better than white people. And then there's the Asian stereotype of their "secrets" of looking young.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 06:25 AM
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But cutting your partner off from sex for years at a time because you don't "feel like it" is bullshit. Of course withholding sex is not okay because sex and intimacy is an important fact of a relationship. But, what Marital Rape laws say is that men don't have a right to sex even when they are married. Men don't have a right to sex whether or not they are married. Nor do women have a right to override. Sexual act isn't a right, especially over unwilling partner. It is absolutely reasonable to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 03:16 AM
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Because you don't marry for just sex. I mean, if what you want is just sex any time you want, go find a favorite brothel. Or just spin the plates forever. Why get married? Supposedly if you were to marry someone as in you want that person next to you for the rest of the life, you'd marry for sexual compatibility as well as other qualities, financial goals, family values, whatever that's important to you. Did you know that not all men want to have sex all the time? Did you know that sometimes men…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 02:21 AM
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How does marriage empower women? Is there a marriage law that says men should obey women? Are men some sorta hapless beings who are forced into marriage and are enslaved by women to do their biddings? Relationship dynamics are far more complicated than "pussy rules all"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 02:01 PM
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No. If half of marriages end in divorce, then that's also your chance of getting divorced. It doesn't matter who initiates divorce because if your marriage is at a point where a single person - your wife or you - wants to divorce, that marriage is now divorce worthy. The way you put it, 80% of women initiate divorce and your chance of being wronged is somehow dependent on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 05:12 AM
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Yes, some assert directly, some unconsciously. In your opinion, if A rejects B's offer, is A superior? Could be. But not necessarily. Again, why should she give attention to those who she's not interested? Nobody is entitled to attention. And if she does give attention with no intention of going forward with it, that'd be misleading at best and manipulating at worst. What should she do?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 05:04 AM
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she just wasn't interested in them, i.e. looks are not enough for the average woman. That's funny. This is one woman's anecdote. You can't extend that to entire gender. If so then I should assume that all women don't care to have casual sex because she doesn't. Which obviously isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 04:50 AM
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But she's not denying men attention/validation for the sake of denying or to assert her "superiority", she's not interested in casual sex. She's not interested in them. Why should she give attention to men if she has no interest in pursuing? You don't get a cookie just because you ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 04:44 AM
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We are talking about a hypothetical man. You don't even know his wife (because she's also hypothetical) and you already assume that she probably isn't on the same level. Why do you assume so? Is it something you experienced in real life directly or through others? I'm not belittling, I'm curious. I expect adults to not fall into whims of others and to be able to talk out issues. If you can't, then either you can't communicate your problems for shits or you married a wrong person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 04:07 AM
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Curious, I'm pretty new to TRP/TBP. How many phases are there to TRPers and what are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 03:40 AM
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I am not talking and don't care about OP's post. I found /u/redmachines's reply funny since if you already assume your theory to be correct and then reject contrary evidence as mere outliers (whether it's true outlier or not) then of course your theory will remain unchallenged. Every evidence of theory proves it true and contrary evidence, well they are exceptions anyway. I want to know why someone thinks that healthy sex drive inherently dictates lots of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 03:38 AM
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What if, just what if, there are people who care about family and because he has a decent job, she has a decent job, they don't need to work 80 hrs and can have hobbies and lives? Seriously, if you don't want to promise your kids that you'd do what it takes to feed them and clothe them, don't have kids. Your own children > hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 03:29 AM
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Does healthy sex drive necessarily mean lots of casual sex? I've known men and women who care for relationship sex and don't care for casuals. Is it because you would have lots of casual sex if it was at your fingertips, you assume others would like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 03:21 AM
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Could you post the source? I'd be interested in reading about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 03:18 AM
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So? I hope you aren't suggesting 80% of perfectly good marriages are being ended because women just want to move up on the status/economic ladder. If 80% of divorces are initiated by women, that's all it means. Don't imbue your theory into number games.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 03:14 AM
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Men also want women with a job unless they subscribe to the traditional gender role of women staying at home. It isn't very practical to own a house and raise family on one income.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 02:45 AM
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