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Total drinking is down compared to past generations. Are you not-white, or from some sort of weird cult? I'm a mid-20s white guy, and the amount of drinking that was normal for my grandparents' generation would be considered normal to above-normal now. The amount that my parents' generation drank 25-30 years ago, as young adults, would be considered insanely high to modern youth. Boomers and Gen X fucking partied compared to Milennial pussies. Dorks in the 80s would be considered insane rebels i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 02:23 AM
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Absolutely not. In retrospect, my life would have been a lot better if I would have just been "blue pilled" the whole time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 02:17 AM
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I agree. I'm a 5'6", Norwooding, spergy guy who never thought he was that good looking, but I've always gotten a decent amount of matches/dates from OLD, especially compared to everything I read on Reddit on how it should be for someone like me. It made me realize how many girls I could have gotten with, even before I had any money or started lifting, as a young dumbass.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 02:11 AM
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You need to get off of the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 06:46 PM
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The majority of 20-23 year old women aren't interested in guys older than 30, true. A pretty substantial minority, though, are open to dating a 30 or 40-something, and a decent chunk (maybe 10-15%) actually prefer it. Even a small minority creates a skew in the dating market. A solid majority of 24+ year olds will happily date men who are 35-39, and an increased minority actively prefer it, which skews things even more. Not any 35-year-old schmuck can date hot young women, but it is a fact that …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 11:53 PM
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I'm 5'6", have never been in great shape (just not fat/have some definition), have been Norwooding since I was 19, and am not particularly attractive. I've never been "invisible" to women, going back to Middle School.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 11:48 PM
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That's a large chunk of human history. You form a family unit for various cultural reasons, but the actual kids are an afterthought.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 02:30 AM
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For basically all of human history. Children have always been at best an after-thought, and at worst basically slaves in every sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 02:13 AM
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For a lot of simps, simping is what gets them off. Actually having sex with the girl is just a bonus. They are perfectly happy being a supplicant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 02:02 AM
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That means if we assume that 100% of people who can have this much sex are going to This is false assumption, though. The vast majority of women have fewer than 10 lifetime sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 12:37 PM
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Their idea of a "high n-count" is different from some random TRP sperg though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 12:34 PM
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In America, if you say "partner" most people assume you're gay, or you're a radlib. It has very different implications if you refer to your "partner" instead of your "husband".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 11:37 PM
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Salaries are a lot higher in North America. $80k is standard new grad salary in the US at least (Canuckistan is a bit less afaik)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 06:26 PM
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Do you live in the middle of nowhere or something? Or are you one of those people who spams right swipes? It's simply unlikely for someone to get only 1-2 matches in several months... Edit: Saw your other posts. Sorry bro, JBW is reality in Norht America. PPD really needs to post a disclaimer. Being a manlet (shorter than 5'9") is only a problem is you're not-white, and not in Chicago or the BosWash corridor. Seriously, white and black guys who are short and live in the Norttheast US/Detroit/oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 06:24 PM
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Even if you clarify with "he", it still has certain implications. It certainly doesn't imply "husband".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:47 PM
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This is completely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:46 PM
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Hiring a photographer is your problem. It looks fake and gross. Just take candids
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:46 PM
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Any mild criticism of sex work is a cancellable offense in most lefty/feminist circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 01:54 PM
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Legal to sell, illegal to buy or pimp is the only humane option.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 01:49 PM
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"Partner" has certain implications itself though - either that you're in a homosexual relationship, or pretty culturally liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 01:47 PM
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They both asked me what I'm doing seeing escorts and they appeared to have a hard time believing that it's difficult to get a girl to like you. Listen to them. Most women who escort are dealing with fat old gross guys. They are genuinely perplexed about why you're buying a hooker because they are actually attracted to you. Just because it's a shallow business transaction doesn't mean that they aren't attracted to you. The sex sucks because you know prostitution is immoral and hollow. It's not th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 01:40 PM
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You aren't the picture that most men have in mind when they think of a "single mother". That's why they don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 12:41 PM
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Why bother? Having sex with people you're not attracted to is just a risk with no reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 03:57 PM
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Single parent rates are low because having a kid out of wedlock is socially unacceptable for white, UMC people (outside of some edge cases like a 40 year old girlboss). https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/marriage-isnt-dead-yet/amp/ Less than 10% for people with a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:23 PM
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Large public university in the Midwest. Yes, the religious people were a minority, but we're talking about strawmen here. A "large proportion" is a weasel word that means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:03 PM
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They used to have fwbs while they acted like angels to the HVM they actually wanted? Yes FDS and TRP are just what your "cool" aunt/uncle or somebody's older brother would told you about dating 20 or 30 years ago. Why do you think there's such strong Gen X loser energy around it? It's always been around, it was just only a minority of people who followed it - the subset of people who are promiscuous. Most people, like always, settled down early, and that's how most people will live going forward…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:02 PM
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What is a "large proportion"? A large proportion of college women are deeply religious and saving themselves for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 12:46 PM
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All of those bullet points are true, for the American UMC at least. Marriage rates go way up as education and income increase. Divorce is rare, and so are single parents. This to me sounds like one of the last copes that ppl have left 'Yeah will if your upper middle class like me then none of this matters bro' It's not a cope. It's how people actually live.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 12:43 PM
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The point of male sex, in nature, is to impregnate as many women as possible Which means family and children. How you define it and what sort of boundaries you keep are up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 01:16 AM
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Never. Having children is literally the point of your existence. A much better hypothetical is: Would you be willing to have sex on demand, but every time you have sex is a 10% chance of having a child? (i.e. how it was before birth control and safe abortion)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 01:10 AM
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Having children and passing on your genes is the ultimate "win" though. Evolution doesn't give a fuck about who gets "better sexual experiences", which means that AF/BB is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 01:02 AM
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Because being married is a status symbol for men. As much as aging Gen X guys like to LARP like they're Heartiste or Jake aka "LD", or a cast member on Entourage, being a single guy past the age of ~35 is a fucking death sentence unless you have at least $2 million. Even then, it's iffy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 12:56 AM
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Watching football, gaming, drinking craft beer/bourbon, and growing a beard are?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 12:52 AM
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The only people I know with less than 5 sexual partners are those who met their partners freakishly young in their early 20s. That's not freakishly young. That's the norm. Most people are not out there dating around past age 24/25.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 12:38 PM
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Young men aren't inferior to young women, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 12:25 AM
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Who says it's an exception? The world isn't as one-sided as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:37 PM
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No, I'm talking about settling down. There are a lot of women who are married to absolute slugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:28 PM
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Women date down all the time. Lots of average girls date absolute losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:16 PM
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How can women always date up and men always date down though? How common do you think polygamy is?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:14 PM
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How is that possible unless you think men are more attractive than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 01:33 PM
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It's telling that they always focus on raw numbers vs. social networks. A much better question would be "would you rather marry a woman who's had sex with 15 guys you've never met, or a woman who's had sex with 4, but you're friends/acquaintances with all of them?"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 01:31 PM
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Most men don't think like that. The men who are obsessed with N-count are internet shut-ins who are still seething over not getting to live out college like a bad teen movie. Most promiscuous men don't think beyond "has she fucked the whole crew?" or "do she got a rep?". Nobody IRL is asking about N-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 01:28 PM
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Everyone here is a gymcel
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 01:22 PM
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Surprisingly, itsafetish survived though
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 06:34 PM
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4) Maybe perfection sucks and we want a partner as fucked up as we are? My man discovered the secret!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 11:36 PM
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Very little. Human are not, and were never, a monogamous species. Citation needed! Most "serial monogamy" is due to early deaths, not any inherent desire to end a relationship. Obviously plenty of marriages don't last for eternity, but Mashallah, we all find happiness/contentment and at least procreate within the bounds of matrimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 11:33 PM
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"Sever and get therapy" has been an internet advice cliche for 2 decades
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 03:02 PM
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People in healthy, satisfying relationships aren't going to post threads asking for advice on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 01:43 PM
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How common do you think it is for people to fuck someone new?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 01:03 PM
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Low self-esteem plain and simple. Their game is shit and they are desperate, so they are obsessed with any woman they cuff cheating on them or leaving them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 12:38 PM
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Everyone you talk to from that era will say the same thing if they're being honest. Gen X and Boomers were far more carefree and party-hearty in their youth than prudish Millennials
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 12:34 PM
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Often yes because the girls with few past partners tend to have weird hangups and aren't as relatable. The idea that men give a shit about whether a woman has slept with 3 guys or 10 guys is just a laughable incel delusion. IRL, most men's dealbreakers are "has she done sex work?" and "has she slept with a lot of people that I know personally?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 12:30 PM
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lmao, it's also what FDS says.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 01:50 AM
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Damn, guess I'm a 10/9 male on your scale!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 01:47 AM
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lmao, maybe for the people you talk to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 01:32 AM
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Yeah, every time I watch a pirated TV show/movie, there's pop-ups from local singles who want to fuck me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 03:55 PM
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That's simply not true
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 11:59 AM
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How is it possible for "most" guys to punch down, unless you think men are more attractive than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 11:35 AM
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My question for guys: Is waiting inherently off-putting and would you reconsider dating a woman who you entertained as a serious gf candidate if she didn't want to have sex early? What's considered "early"? First date? A month? 6 months? Before marriage? It depends on how much I like her and how much she seems to like me tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 11:31 PM
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Where are you trying to go with this? Promiscuity is down, just like you said in your paragraph. Back to high school - Although teens were gonna be promiscuous teens, much of high school seemed to be a fairly tame sexual experience. Sex was nowhere near as casual nor rampant as it is nowadays. Most people never had sex outside of a relationship unless they were drunk at a party. While men were just as horny as ever, most women in my high school seemed fairly uninterested in sex. Even apprehensiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 11:25 PM
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You can get Viagra and Cialis over the internet. What other PEDs are there for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 11:57 AM
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Gyno and being fat aren't the same thing though. Most men don't grow tits unless they get pretty fat, and you don't have to "work hard" to just be thin-ish and decent enough looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 11:49 AM
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Lmfao, weddings cost way less than $100k, and property taxes are way, way more than $1000
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 11:45 AM
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You're confusing cause and effect here. Japan started to have a low birth rate and "herbivore" men when the economy started getting weaker there. A big reason is because young men couldn't get good jobs like their fathers, or didn't see it as worth the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 11:44 AM
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lmao, Women are the gatekeepers of both. "Hoes choose". Men put in the effort they want to for what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 10:50 PM
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Women don't "give sex" lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 10:45 PM
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So what's the big deal then? FDS women complain all the time about how they used to date absolute losers and fawn over them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 09:42 PM
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How does that make it not blue pilled?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 09:37 PM
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FDS is basically women making the Blue Pill true, so most men should benefit if it becomes the norm!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 09:29 PM
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Legalizing prostitution and more importantly, normalizing prostitution would take so much power away from women they’d never recover. To note, the women here, are the same women who have trouble finding a relationships now, there chances just went from slim to none. What would change? Women don't want a relationship with the type of guy who's chomping at the bit to fuck whores. Especially not the type of guy who's desperate for sex, but afraid of the illegality of going to a prostitute now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 05:30 PM
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It depends a lot on the company. I've worked for companies that all but straight up encouraged the younger employees to be friends and/or date coworkers. The reason being that they had a hard time retaining people due to the jobs being in rural shitholes with few other suitable young professionals.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 05:25 PM
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I remember being 16 and friends and I comiserating about girls who would fuck but not give a hand job.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 02:06 AM
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This is a huge generation gap thing based on what I've seen on PPD/the internet in general. My experience, since I was a teenager, has always been that oral sex, and even handjobs, are far, far more of a "big deal" than PiV.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 12:21 AM
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That prison guy is going to reply "you about to be my chick" Just watch Pimps Up Hoes Down if that's the type of women you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 12:10 PM
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400,000 people receiving Alimony is nothing in the grand scheme of things considering that there's over 25 million divorced people in the US. So what, 3% of men who got divorced are paying? Plenty of them were at fault as well!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 01:30 PM
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Yeah, it's really weird to be dating someone that young, but most people would just raise an eyebrow or make a joke like "diper sniper" and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 01:29 PM
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California is not the entire US, contrary to what many believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 01:28 PM
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The irony of this is that the married guy didn't pay for the wedding. The groom just have easily could have been a "Skittles" guy at one time, lmfao. Marrying a rich girl doesn't sound like being a herb.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 11:47 AM
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The link you posted is a 24 year old fucking a 17 year old though, not a 19 year old. The vast majority of Americans would have no problem with a 19 year old dating a 17 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 11:44 AM
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A 6 that's throwing her pussy at you is gonna get dick over a 7 or 8 that's just playing coy. A "top tier" guy doesn't think like that... Not past the age of 23 or so, anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 11:34 AM
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Older men who are still single are the "guys who won't grow up". Do you seriously think a 38-year-old who is catting around is not a case of prolonged adolescence?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 11:19 AM
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Most women aren't dom or sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 10:36 PM
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https://mobile.twitter.com/graykimbrough/status/1134845684526583813/photo/1 https://mobile.twitter.com/graykimbrough/status/1134845982485753857/photo/1 Which shows women married with kids, married without kids and unmarried with kids are all happier than unmarried women without kids. There's a difference of 0.2 on a 6 point scale. That implies that there's basically zero difference in happiness whether or not women have kids or get married. The most interesting part is that the reported happines…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 12:46 PM
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If you think sex and intimacy can be replaced by random tinder rendezvous then I doubt you know anything about women at all. Women aren't a hivemind. Plenty of women don't want the stress of an on-going relationship and just want rendezvouses and flings. Also women need men to successfully raise children, especially boys. That's what uncles, grandfathers, etc. are for. If the father sticks around, even better, but plenty of men are better just providing a paycheck and getting out. Plenty of wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 12:44 PM
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Lots of men are born tricks. That doesn't mean it's the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 01:55 PM
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If you cared about them, you wouldn't be charging for it. Prostitution is a cold, business transaction. It's only "affectionate" if the man is delusional, and even then, the mask frequently slips.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 01:47 PM
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You don't have to have an expensive party to get married, and your parents should be covering most of the cost (and whatever gifts you get from your guests will more than cover the rest).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 01:41 PM
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Except it is cold with no affection. A prostitute cannot give you real affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 01:41 PM
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It's easier to achieve "financial independence" if you're married! Two incomes, less expense!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 01:33 PM
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That's my point. Nobody is voting "left wing" in the US. Bernie was center-left at best. And anybody who uses a phrase like "economic marxism" clearly has no idea what they're talking about anyone, and is just ranting about women being liberals.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 01:32 PM
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How many Marxist politicians are getting votes in the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 01:21 PM
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Yes, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 01:17 PM
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"GFE" is a myth. A woman on the clock can never provide the same experience, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 01:16 PM
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Marriage is cheaper than being single, though. "Financially ready" for marriage is a media lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 01:11 PM
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This is a huge factor. Bitter guys like to act like women are ignoring them for "Chad", when the truth is that young people are simply less mature at a given age than they would have been 20 or 30 years ago. 16-year-olds act like middle schoolers from past generations, 21-year-olds basically act like teenagers, 25-year-olds are barely treated like adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 01:10 PM
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I have never watched a tv show directed at young people which shows them hooking up off of instagram, have you? TV shows are written by people who are mostly 30+, so they tend to lag youth trends by at least 5 years. You could make the same "niche" argument about hooking up off of instragram with regards to Tinder or any other dating app as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 01:08 PM
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It's completely bullshit, and has been for a while. Milennials were straight-up prudes as teens and 20-somethings compared to Gen X and Boomers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 01:06 PM
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Because it's disgusting, but we also don't want to punish women who've been forced into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 01:03 PM
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We should go with the Nordic model - illegal to buy, legal to sell
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 03:18 PM
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Those men should be put in jail, or at least sanctioned. Whores are not the same thing as a woman who wants you, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 02:14 AM
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Prostitution simply isn't the same though. Visiting a prostitute is a cold, clinical transaction, like visiting the doctor. They are 100% grifters, and most ~sex workers~ can't even put on an act these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 10:58 PM
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But on the other hand I still appreciate the idea that there is an ethical way of having consensual hookups, without hurting anyone's feelings. I just did not find it yet. The vast majority of single women only want a casual hookup to start. 95+% who hookup with you are at least OK with it. If you're OK with it, odds are that no one's feelings are getting hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 10:55 PM
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He's a very proud, open chubby chaser (chubby meaning "obese++").
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 10:51 PM
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6/10, but I like med girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 10:49 PM
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I introduced one of my male friends to a girl who was a very cute (not hot) girl that had a crush on him, was in the same (male-dominated) major, and was into anime and rpgs. He wasn’t interested because she wasn’t hot enough. How fat was she?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 10:22 PM
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How does anyone get laid if you have to wait 3 dates? 1 or 2 is all it takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 10:21 PM
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Middle class and above women don't have kids out of wedlock in the US. Women who "ride the cock carousel" are almost all young professional types in large cities. It's simply not a tenable lifestyle elsewhere. It's also just not possible to sleep around in your 20s if you have small kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 09:59 PM
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You're completely confusing stereotypes here. Women who sleep around in their 20s then decide to settle down don't have kids out of wedlock!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 08:10 PM
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How common do you think that scenario is? The problem with the Red Pill/MGTOW is that they can't even get their strawwomen right. Single mothers and women who sleep around in their 20s and then settle down at 30 are not the same women!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 08:08 PM
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Why do single mothers even factor into the equation? Do you really thing that "Beta Bucks" men are wifing up women with children?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 12:24 PM
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Not every woman feels the same way as you! Plenty of women think that texting the next day after sex is clingy or weird. Just accept that people have different norms and expectations. And for men, it's always better to err on the side of aloofness over being a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 12:15 PM
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many people like to stick it in a separate box where standard rules of civility and basic decency don't apply All's fair in love and war. Sex is a separate box where the standard rules of civility and basic decency don't apply!! If the standard rules applied, there'd be no need for "dating strategy" or red or blue pills or any of this. I find it interesting that people think the "rules" are suddenly different when it comes to sex. If the rules weren't suddenly different, PPD would have no reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 12:12 PM
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"Asshole" is a compliment when it comes from a woman though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 12:06 PM
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Older men who date much younger women aren't more mature, that's the point!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 12:03 PM
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Yes, you respect boundaries by not harassing strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 12:01 PM
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in the eyes of the animal kingdom, he’s the loser because he wasn’t able to secure a young woman with fresher eggs and better genetics In the eyes of the animal kingdom, the Beta Bucks wins because he passes on his genes. The Alpha fucks doesn't, so he loses.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 11:57 AM
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What is the point of all of those "resources" if you die alone? Isn't the entire point of having things to pass them on to your descendents. And in terms of self-respect, some creepy MGTOW is way less respected than the most pathetic beta bucks
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 11:48 AM
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The "alpha" is the one that is made to wear a latex bag on his dick and dump his genetic materials in the trash. Chad gets to hit it raw if he wants
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 11:47 AM
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You can't just talk to strangers though. Great way to end up in jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 11:45 AM
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IRL takes way more energy and effort though. There's only certain places you can meet people, and not everyone has the time to grind it out there
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 10:59 AM
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Because it's a bonus for very little effort
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 08:20 PM
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Real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 07:03 PM
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Women don't want relationships, and it's human nature to blame others when things go wrong (i.e. woman drives a man away and claims "he ain't shit")
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 02:51 PM
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"Hookup culture" does not and never did exist. It was just a media attempt to pathologist normal youth sexual behavior. Millennials were actually far more chaste as young adults than prior generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 01:37 PM
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"Hookup culture" never existed though. Prove this Simple math. Women who want relationships get "off the market" sooner. The older you get, the higher chance that a woman who's single falls into the "doesn't ever want to settle down" category Women don't change their minds when they hit 30 - that's an old stand up hack bit that incels and TRPers parrot as a revenge fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 01:16 PM
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Men are romantics pretending to be realists. All of those "fuckboys" you complain about actually want a relationship more than you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 01:11 PM
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What year is that survey from? Norms change. Modern women do not want a relationship. . I suspect the % of women who want only want sex dramatically Decreases after college still. I'd argue it increases because the women who want relationships get them in college. Post-college women truly do not want to settle down, ever in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 01:09 PM
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They don't...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 12:22 PM
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What year are you posting from? The days of wearing "pajamas" in public are 10 to 15 years gone. Young people in particular (20s and teens) are way, way more fashion conscious than they were 20 years ago in the peak of "who cares" culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 11:40 AM
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If you're under 22, a snapback and a Naruto shirt will actually get you girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 11:38 AM
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PPD has always been full of Xers and late Millennials aka the worst dressed generations ever - just look at old TV/movies/home videos from the late 90s or 2000s. Add in the fact that it's Reddit (i.e. "trying" is simply inefficient/a waste of money) and you have a perfect formula for people who REEEE about being told to care at all about what they wear
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 11:36 AM
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It's pretty common in parts of the US (east coast). I see short, ugly guys with 6-7/10 girls all the time. Almost never see a good-looking guy with an ugly or fat girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 11:31 AM
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Where is the proof that women are expecting or even looking for commitment from men that they have sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 11:27 AM
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The current status quo is that unless stated otherwise girls are looking for a boyfriend. Where is this the status quo? I'd argue it's the exact opposite - unless stated otherwise, girls are not looking for a boyfriend. There's a huge push in the last decade to make girls think dating is "too much work/time" that distracts from their "goals" (as if having a relationship means you can't have a career or hobbies...) along with a general "men ain't shit" mantra that isn't even based in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 11:24 AM
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It's not a "reddit" thing. It's a TRP thing. TRP is an aging community who likes to bemoan trends when it fits their narrative (i.e. Tinder made "normal" guys not get laid), but not when trends change and it contradicts their wisdom (i.e. women in 2020 don't like commitment, men are the ones that want commitment)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 11:20 AM
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Especially recently in history, girls are more and more baiting men into relationships with sex. They are then hurt over and over when it doesn't happen. Recently as in a generation ago. Contemporary young women do not want a relationship. It's an old canard that "men don't want to commit and use women". It's actually the opposite now. Women finally have the freedom to sleep around, and lazy men want to commit so that they don't have to compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 11:18 AM
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Men are cheating less compared to 30 or 40 years ago, I'd bet. The old Boomer stereotypes simply aren't true anymore. Women and men's typical aims in the "sexual marketplace" have flipped
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 11:15 AM
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OnlyFans and prostitutes are about the least sexual people on the planet. Women don't give a shit about money. They'll take a broke guy who is fun over a guy with a "good" job or a business every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 11:13 AM
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My point is that if you're experienced, you know how to identify a slut without sperging out and asking her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 11:17 PM
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Women wouldn't even think about marriage if there wasn't a financial benefit. Men also financially benefit from marriage. Marriage has always been a transaction. That's why it exists as an institution! Are you over 35? Things have changed a lot for younger generations. The stereotypes of which gender does what are almost a complete 180 to how they were in late-20th century America.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 09:59 PM
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I understand that Europe is 20 years behind the US, but it's true. Check out /r/ deadbedrooms. It's almost all women complaining about their husbands. Dead bedrooms are far more likely to be a husband who'd rather watch porn that fuck his fat, old wife. The women who complain about "porn sick" men are far more likely to be older women worried that they aren't good enough, not 21-year-olds like teenage blackpillers fantaize about getting revenge on. The idea of men not getting the sex they want i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 09:45 PM
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Women are almost always the ones who complain about dead bedrooms, though. It's men losing attraction to their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 09:42 PM
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Absolutely not. This is an outdated Boomer/Xer trope. Modern women are very, very picky about who they commit to, so they are very attracted to whomever it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 09:41 PM
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I wish women cared about money! Things would be a lot simpler that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 09:39 PM
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Why would they lie? Any guy who's experienced himself either doesn't care, or knows how to tell if a woman is worth his time. Guys who obsess over n-count are inherently "low value" because they aren't savvy enough to just figure things out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 07:01 PM
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Women don't care about getting "paid" from a man. Lmfao, stop hanging around the underclass.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 06:36 PM
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My post was sarcastic. A lot of redpillers believe it's reality though
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 06:24 PM
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No, even "multiply by 3" was always just a satirical quip, not reality. Add or multiply by 20 is just insanity. Most women aren't going to lie about their N-count. If it's high, they don't give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 05:56 PM
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Paying for a drink or coffee is beta, bro. You took her to a bar and bought her a $10 cocktail before you take her home, "talked" for 2 hours, probably even left a tip too, ya simp. Chad matched with her last night on Tinder and said "come over" and she went.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 05:42 PM
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Fewer than 10% of women have slept with 20+ men What happened to "multiply it by 3"? At least that is reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 05:39 PM
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It's pretty common, and my experience is similar to yours - it's usually nurses or women in a "caring" profession, lower-middle or working class, and the husband can be at best described as a "slug". Ironically, when a lot of FDS women complain about the "average man", these guys married to Becky Bucks are who I imagine that they are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 05:27 PM
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The vast majority of single women only want sex. Women who want a relationship/to commit are very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 03:35 PM
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Yes, a single, 40+ year old male teacher is considered completely normal and safe, lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 02:50 PM
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Generation gap. Young men see women expressing negative emotions as a good thing because it's a golden opportunity to make her more attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 02:41 PM
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Being divorced is fine. That's why I said "never married".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 02:11 PM
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It absolutely matters professionally, and socially as well. A man who's 35+ and has never been married immediately sets off "what is wrong with him" alarm bells. Men who are married are also far more likely to get promoted at work because they are seen as responsible family men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 02:01 PM
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If you want to settle for a woman way below your league, sure, you can express some weakness. Most men will end up miserable if they do that though, and that misery will make their wife/GF miserable as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 01:56 PM
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Again, it's still a race to the bottom to be the top jester/entertainer. It's like being a male pickme.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 01:53 PM
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Yes, social proof is the biggest factor. A man who's single and never been married past the age of 35 is basically treated like a leper.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 01:49 PM
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That's not how it works for sexuality though. Women want the winner/the king.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 12:32 PM
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Urban legends spread like wildfire, and everyone wants to feel like they participate in them. It's not "proof".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 11:55 AM
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What is even the point in LTRs if you can't be open with your partner? Regular sex Social proof (a man who's single past a certain age is not highly regarded) Shared expenses/savings
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 11:51 AM
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The problem is that sexuality is inherently competitive. If every man was passionate and creative about something, there'd still be a hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 11:46 AM
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No, these are all women I have things in common with. That's my point. Getting sex is easy, but getting an LTR is very hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 06:24 PM
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You go on a few dates, fuck a few times, and then nobody wants anything serious. Simple as that. Everything's cool when it's casual, but things fizzle out once it gets "serious".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 06:13 PM
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Gym, school, and work are not appropriate places to hit on people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 06:04 PM
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You've already lost both the traditional PPD plot and....reality? Unless you just mean that it's easy enough to go to a bar and find someone else who there who wants a ONS. PPD is wrong. I post this all the time because it's based on my personal experience. Women will have sex easily, but they are very picky about LTRs. Question: does your proposed dating strategy ever involve asking anyone on a date? Yes, and it's a great way to end up ghosted/ignored. Just going for casual flings, not a proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 06:03 PM
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Developing a personal style isn't really necessary though. Any clothes that fit and go together well/flatter one's body type and features are fine. And then they get hostile to suggestions to change that. They get hostile because they're asking the wrong question. The reality is that how a man dresses has little to do with how attractive he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 06:01 PM
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Again, if you are talking about NSA sex, please admit it, so you can admit that the imbalance in that is also to do with fewer women than men that are willing or wanting to engage in NSA sex. No, I'm talking about dating. NSA sex is easy to get - women will fuck anyone NSA. The standards for getting in a relationship are much, much, much higher than just a ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 05:59 PM
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A girl
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 05:51 PM
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The thing is that ultimately none of those things make a substantial difference when it comes to dating for men, though. It's all good advice in general because taking care of yourself makes you feel better, but dressing better, grooming, working out, don't make a difference in dating success. Most men who bitch about how they can't get a date already dress nicely, are in shape, have good jobs, groom themselves, etc. Most women simply don't understand most men, so the immediate thought is always…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 05:50 PM
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How can someone be "better" or "worse" at something like D&D, or hiking, or the kink scene, to name a few hobbies friends of mine have met partners through? Power/status. This matters even more in male dominated hobbies. A girl who's into D&D is gonna fuck the dungeon master, not some random slob who also plays. Your "metalhead" girl is only going to fuck guys in popular bands, not some loser who just shows up to shows like she does. The "kink scene" is like 60-70% men, so lmfao at that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 05:48 PM
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It's because most of the "advice" is old hat. Those guys who are complaining have heard it before, they just don't want to listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 05:40 PM
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I never said I wanted it to be this way, it's just the way it is. Why on Earth would you want to be saddled with someone you have nothing in common with, who only finds you "impressive"? That sounds boring and frustrating. Now you know why a lot of men are bitter. They just can't accept this reality and endlessly ruminate over it. Also, IME, opposites....don't really attract. Birds of a feather flock together. Men have to be better than the women they date. So yes, birds of a feather can flock t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 05:38 PM
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The thing about "self-improvement" is that it A: intimidates people and B: makes it harder to meet new people. It's not like you meet a lot of people to date at the gym, or studying for a new degree, or working long hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 05:37 PM
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IME it's the exact opposite. Self-improvement and "doing the right thing" = celibacy. Being a lazy degenerate = sex and relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 05:13 PM
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I wonder if this phenomenon is a factor why women so often complain about man children. Women complain about man children because they have always complained about man children. It's just one of those tropes that gets passed down from generation. There really is not much proof that 20-somethings today are actually significantly less mature than they were 20 or 40 or 100 years ago. Getting married less doesn't mean much when past generations that married young just got divorced more often. So I’m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 04:59 PM
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Nothing is stopping people from getting married before they finish their degrees, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 04:56 PM
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This is a beef I have with dating advice more generally; partners aren't fungible If you're successful at dating, yes they are. Treating your partners like they are unique or special is a recipe for disaster. A guy who likes sports and action movies and working on his car isn't going to meet a woman who talks about Hegel all the time and think "Wow! What a great personality she has!"; he's going to think "What is this boring bullshit?" Similarly, a metalhead girl isn't going to look at a Jersey-…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 04:50 PM
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Kandyapplez is from a very unique place
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 01:11 AM
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There's at least as many lesbians in Seattle/SF as there are gay men (maybe more), so that's irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 12:02 AM
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Or you can just move to the east coast, where every man is a manlet and even spergs can get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 12:00 AM
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Sex ratio makes a massive difference in dating. Dating in Seattle or San Francisco is completely different from Chicago or Philadelphia live in a country where women outnumber men by millions Aka every Western country because men die younger. What matters is ratio of men to women in the 20-39 age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 05:35 PM
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I'm older than 24 and younger than 29. Even 27 vs 29 can make a difference in how old people think you are. Again, people treating you differently as you age is not "society". Everybody gets old, and there is a certain age where 18 year olds aren't attracted to you anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 03:41 PM
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That, plus the fact that women marry older men on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 03:39 PM
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And young women still interact in a polite manner. They just don't humor older men who feel entitled to their time. Here is the issue I see with girls being rude and abrasive is that I see boys responding by either being hyper aggressive and completely disinterested in how the other person feels, or not interacting at all. There's no proof that this is actually happening though, outside of internet people and media hucksters desperate for a story Young people have always been called "rude" and "…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 03:26 PM
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I’ve hooked up with girls in the 18-24 range for years now My point is that 20 year old girls are going to treat you differently at 29 than they did when you were 20. That's not "society", that's just the nature of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 03:21 PM
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MRAs have a shit ton of complaints with the legal and justice system. Shouldn't they be sympathetic towards protests against it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 01:16 PM
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Police brutality is an issue that affects men, and you don't have to be a criminal to be victimized. Let's say a woman makes a FALSE RAPE ACCUSATION against an innocent young king. Is it OK for the police to rough him up, since he is a "criminal" after all?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 12:42 PM
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You can't "opt in" to something that doesn't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 12:04 PM
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How does any of that make this not affect you? White men in small towns can have issues with the police.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 11:25 AM
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It does affect you though. Killer cops are a problem. Standing up against authority is not "simping"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 11:24 AM
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Hookup "culture" does not exist in the sense that it's any sort of trend among younger people. There's always been promiscuous and not promiscuous people, and I'd argue Millennials are more likely to have been "not promiscuous" than previous generations for several reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 11:21 AM
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Are you rioting or asking the rioters why they are rioting?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 11:17 AM
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Are men or women the ones being shot by police?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 11:16 AM
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Politeness is in fact a social skill. The fact that younger women are more likely to be assholes is what... a step in the right direction? Yes The big "erosion" in skills is that norms have changed. Young women aren't "worse" socially. They are just taught that they don't have to be doormats anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 11:13 AM
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Probably
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 11:11 AM
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have noticed it with the under 25 crowd only recently Bruh. Do you really not understand why girls under 25 acting bitchier when you're 29 vs when you're 22 is not indicative of a trend? How can you compare what girls are like "now" when you weren't who you are now 5 or 10 years ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 11:09 AM
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Even more recent than I thought, which just highlights what I'm talking about! If you think MeToo was "one of the biggest ripple effects", you have a short memory. MeToo was not a big shift. It was brewing for years before that. That whole shift started early in the Obama administration, more like 2009/2010
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 11:07 AM
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People have not gotten flakier.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 09:30 PM
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When I was young women were much more receptive and polite... even when they were not interested Social skills doesn't mean "women have to humor me when I approach them". I'd argue telling guys to buzz off or ignoring them is better social skills Plus dude, come on. Do you not see a reason why young women treated you better when you were younger?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 09:25 PM
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Yes! MeToo was circa 2015. "Campus rape hysteria" and "false accusations" were already a meme when I was in college close to 10 years ago, long before MeToo. MeToo is about the workplace anyway, not parties or anything. Abstinence education was part of a general prudishness that characterizes Millennials. Young people in the 2000s and 2010s were way, way, way more conservative when it comes to causal sex than they were in the 70s or 80s. "Hookup culture" simply doesn't exist. Millennials are pru…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 09:23 PM
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Game is useless if women walk away in disgust when you open your mouth. There's a bare minimum of looks that you have to have for "game" to matter, but it's a lower threshold than people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 09:17 PM
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Nobody says that OLD means you don't have to have game though?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 07:20 PM
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Anti-male propaganda has nothing to do with online dating though. Abstinence-only education and changing norms around and increased understanding of consent (what you refer to as "anti-male propaganda") have had a much bigger effect on dating than online dating apps imo
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 07:19 PM
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What extra layer of bullshit? Do you have tapes of yourself at a young age? You can't compare a third person view of "kids today" to your rose-colored past memories. Every generation always thinks kids these days ain't shit compared to their youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 07:01 PM
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I was squatting 255ish 3x5 twice a week and front squatting 210ish for triples once a week pre-pandemic, and I'm a weak manlet. Bruh, it's not hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 07:00 PM
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No, 1/2/3/4 45lb plates per side, thougj realistically you should try to get your OHP higher than that. Squatting 3x your bodyweight is work, but it's borderline Olympian level. If you can do 315 for a few reps, you're fine unless you're really tall
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 06:53 PM
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You don't look as young as you think though. Let's keep it 300 - young women in general are flakey. The kind that like older men, and like casual sex, are super flakey. It's always been that way. Nothing has really changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 06:43 PM
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Online is a supplement though. If you do good IRL, who cares? OLD is just a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 06:42 PM
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Yes, Northern Europe is not 40+% obese like the US
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 06:42 PM
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Cutting blows, but it's not "hard work" to lift weights 3-5 hours a week. And lifting big numbers is fun, not a chore. You don't need to lift much more than 1/2/3/4 for a 3-5RM to have a good body.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 06:19 PM
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I'm from the North.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 06:17 PM
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You can train to make your shoulders wider - OHP, pull ups, cleans, etc. All the good stuff. American gym culture focuses too much on chest instead of shoulders imo, but you can get W I D E R Fit men, wearing mostly the same clothes as average men, look very different and it's plainly apparent that they are more fit and attractive than average men. Yes, but they don't look as good as they do wearing clothes that fit. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Clothes off of the rack, un…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 05:52 PM
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Average 20-39 year old white and black men in America are 5'10 to 5'10.5. 5'8 is short unless you're in a Latino area or old. 5'11 is not "tall" in the US. Anecdotally, white men on the East Coast are also short, but I don't have any real data on that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 05:48 PM
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Looks = face. https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2017.1819 Estimates of physical strength determined over 70% of men's bodily attractiveness. Within the categoty of "body", cues of strength (i.e. frame and muscles) are at least twice as important as height. https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11833-the-face-not-the-body-attracts-a-mate/#:~:text=For%20women%20rating%20men%2C%2052,%2C%20DOI%3A%2010.1016%2Fj. This article says face is actually 50%, not 40%. Close enough, especia…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 05:46 PM
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Any guy who is attractive enough to get play IRL can get Tinder matches. My photos are shit and I do fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 05:40 PM
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I have lived in a variety of areas. My family - and the general area I grew up in - leans conservative, and let's just say that they don't generally approve of interracial relationships. All of the progressive/Leftist people I know do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 05:39 PM
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My experience is the opposite of yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 05:25 PM
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This still causes the same issue because then shirts that fit your shoulders are too big at the waist.... The point is that in-shape men have narrow waists and wide upper bodies compared to the average guy. Clothes are made for average guys, so when fit men go to shop, normal clothes are too tight at the shoulders/chest, or too wide at the waist and hide the v-taper
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 05:24 PM
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The only way I can see a t-shirt being so baggy that's hiding the waist, is if your chest is so big that you need to pick larger sizes. And this is what happens to men who are in shape. A shirt that fits in the chest is baggy at the waist. A shirt that fits properly at the waist strains the chest/shoulders. That is the point. Shirts are cut for men who have a smaller chest/waist ratio (i.e. big gut or no muscle)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 05:11 PM
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Except that if a shirt is too "relaxed" around the waist, it looks like shit and makes you look fat. Only fat people are worried about clothes being loose/hiding their body. That's why it's hard for fit men to buy clothing that actually shows they are fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 04:53 PM
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That is not true from what I've seen. People in general, but especially women, prefer to date within their own race. Progressive people are more open to date other races. Some people have specific fetishes for certain races - most common is Asian women going for white men and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 04:49 PM
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People go on dates and have sex with people they never would have met because of Tinder. It's a supplement, not "death". Any guy who can't get matches on Tinder probably would not get much IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 04:43 PM
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It's not at all "death" lmfao. Men just complain because they think Tinder means "pussy on demand" like gays get dick on Grindr
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 04:24 PM
0

Have you used Tinder?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 04:18 PM
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I simply refuse to believe that most men are bad at sex. It's just a pity party that gets repeated because what woman is going to go against the hivemind? Do you really believe that men don't actually do foreplay or that they don't know where the clitoris is (outside of a hack 1990s comedy set)?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 04:16 PM
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No, "looks" does not mean height. And based on actual research, it's more like 40% frame/body, 40% face, 20% height. Remember that most men, even short men, are still taller than the majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 04:13 PM
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Again, men orgasm lamost every time. Women don't Myth and projection. It's not projection. Read any female forum, tons of posts about problems with orgasming during sex. Yes because they create a mental feedback loop which makes it impossible to get in the right mood. It's a giant pity party, similar to when men say that women "won't give them the time of day", and that negative attitude makes it true
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 04:09 PM
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I was lucky to have older friends and cousins who told me how casual sex looks like. None of them enjoyed it. So there was a huge chance I wouldn't enjoy it either. So again, all mental, and probably involving a lot of rewriting of events (i.e. some guy dumped them, so of course he sucked in bed, even if he was plenty fine at the time)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 04:01 PM
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How can you say social skills have eroded? No shit people treat you differently when you're 15 years older.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 03:59 PM
0

It matters less than looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 03:59 PM
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"Normal" clothes assume a 5-6inch difference between waist and chest. A fit man has more like 8-12 inch difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 03:57 PM
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Having clit stimulated by man during sex, who also has to move is hard, because it's almost impossible for him to do it the right way, keep the tempo and penetrate at the same time It's really not. Plus, you're acting like penetrative sex is all that happens. Foreplay is absolutely part of sex, and every man knows that. You're 100% projecting. What makes you think that men don't want to do what it takes to make a woman orgasm? Making a woman cum is a huge ego boost for men because "it never happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 03:02 PM
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Tinder and OLD have not changed things that much. It's just an easy come, easy go medium. Photography matters, but realistically any guy who's going to get any positive attention from women IRL is going to have a couple of decent photos and should be able to string together a decent bio to get matches. The guys who can't get matches on Tinder would have never gotten a girl interested in them with IRL pickup, no matter how much GAME they could spit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 02:58 PM
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Height doesn't matter as much as looks. A handsome, fit 5'8 guy, or even a decent shape, decent looking 5'11 guy, will get way more positive attention from women than a fat, ugly 6'1 guy. You're just not living in reality if you think otherwise. Race is a bit more of a touchy subject, but it's "mattering" mostly depends on where you live and what kind of women you're pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 02:50 PM
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What's weak - complaining about basic things like lifting weights, or doing things you enjoy? Lifting weights is not "hard", and it really says a lot about the hivemind of PPD men when they act like it's a major sacrifice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 02:47 PM
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It doesn't take much "effort" in the gym to get in shape. 3-5 hours a week is not "effort", especially when there's lots of things you can do to build/maintain muscle once you have a strength base. You don't have to train like a bodybuilder or an Olympic athlete.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 02:06 PM
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This doesn't apply to men. Most clothes automatically show your shoulder to waist ratio. This is absolutely bullshit. Most men's clothing is cut for guys who have guts. A man with a favorable shoulder to waist ratio has to look for "atheltic" cuts or have darts put in. Otherwise, the shirts that fit at the shoulders will billow at the waist. Pants that fit is also an issue for men who train their legs or just have big asses.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 02:05 PM
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You realize that you can have penetrative sex and clit stimulation in the session? Men can even rub the clit during penetration, it's not that hard. I find it very hard to believe that men in 2020 are having sex without any foreplay or paying attention at all to the clitoris. Just talk to women and see, most women don't orgasm during sex Again, that's not really true. At least 65% of heterosexual women report orgasming almost every time during sex Having an orgasm also has a huge mental componen…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 02:02 PM
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The difference is, the probability that a woman will orgasm during sex with a random guy in extremaly low. There's not really any actual proof of that. It's just an old stereotype that gets repeated and creates a self-fuflfilling prophecy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 12:10 PM
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Red pill for you: A lot of things that are attractive in men - dancing skills, "game" (basically flirting), "swagger", etc. - are proxies for how good you are in bed. They aren't perfect correlation, but they do show that you know how to communicate physically and emotionally without making everything an overt spergy statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 12:06 PM
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Showing solidarity and having compassion for other human beings doesn't mean you want to fuck them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 12:04 PM
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Here's the thing: Your idea of "too soon" might be another woman's idea of "waiting around way too long". In fact, it probably is. Most women don't want to chit chat all day on an app. You know how you get to know someone? You go on a date! You can't determine chemistry over a screen, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 11:54 AM
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If wellness, yoga, and dance make you feel good and lifting doesn't, go do yoga and dance. You'll enjoy yourself more, and it'll be easier to meet women than at guy heaven gym
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 11:50 AM
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A button down shirt isn't inherently "formal". If you really want to get pendantic, a button down shirt is quite literally "casual" historically.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 11:26 AM
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Yes, they aren't bugmen concerned with maximizing value.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 11:25 AM
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Women absolutely comment on watches. "Women notice" doesn't mean that every single woman you talk to will gush over it. If one woman compliments something about your look, odds are plenty more at least admired it (this applies to how you look, how you carry yourself, things you wear, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 11:24 AM
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"Well fitting clothes" is probably the hardest one imo. Since most people are fat, their idea of well fitting is about hiding their body, not showing it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 11:21 AM
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Manscaping is borderline imo. Nobody looks good with stray back hair, but a lot of women like a hairy chest (properly filled in, not scraggly)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 11:17 AM
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Beards are often used as a way to create a jawline on men that don't have them. They were also trendy about 5-10 years ago and are back out of style.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 11:15 AM
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"Basically the same". And if you're black, make that range more like 25 to 45/50. Ages written in a book are irrelevant. What matters is how old you "look" in real life. There are 27 year olds that look middle aged, and there's 37 year olds that look like 20 somethings.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 11:02 AM
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That's because "Models" are usually fake profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 04:14 PM
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Simping on Instagram is talking at women, not talking to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 01:05 PM
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How is talking to women "thirst"? Real talk, how do you expect to have sex if you think that talking to girls is beta lmfao?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 12:51 PM
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I love how this guy claims that the men protesting are low T and have "no access to women" when they are out there committing bold acts of violence surrounded by tons of sympathetic young women. Yes, I'm sure that none of those hot college girls are attracted at all to young men standing up for the same beliefs /s. This isn't a pure GenX thing though. Remember that GenX were/are not a fan of cops either
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 12:49 PM
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No, you don't, unless your definition of thirsty is "asking women on dates", which for a lot of bitter maladjusted men, it seems to be. Nobody is forcing you to simp for Instagram models or girls on Twitter or pay for OnlyFans. It probably hurts your chances, if anything. If you think that talking to/flirting with women or taking them on a basic date is "thirst", that's just excess reaction
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 12:39 PM
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The problem is that "dating" and "casual sex" have no formal definitions. Way too many frustrated men on Tinder think that it's like Grindr where you can just order up sex. Or they pivot the other direction and act way too stiff/non-sexual. They don't understand that most of the women on the app want a casual fling, they just want you to play the game and go on a date or two before you fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 12:36 PM
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There's a reason why "incel" is an insult primarily directed towards men And why "sluts" is an insult directed towards women Yes, it's because society shames women and praises men who like casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 12:33 PM
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This book is one of the most sold on Amazon - and how old does he look? 22? How old you look isn't how old you are though. Men who take care of themsevles can look basically the same from 25 to 35 if they aren't a "baby face" type (which usually isn't that attractive anyway)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 11:09 AM
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The findings show that despite older men finding much younger women extremely attractive, they were highly unlikely to actually message any of them on an online dating site. Men will most often message women actually closer to their own age. Men like how younger women look, but they still don't always want to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 11:06 AM
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It's a sunk cost. You aren't doing those things solely to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 08:10 PM
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Every man should be going to the gym, or at least exercising. Period. That's just "good health". It's not a "lot of resources" because you should be doing it anyway. Most people live in cities, so again, it's something that they were doing anyway. If you don't, again, that's on you. For most men, it's not an extra stretch. You have to be around available women if you want to get laid. I post all the time about how not everyone can do that, but based on pure stats, most men already live in a big …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 07:10 PM
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Your average man can guarantee casual sex, but it doesnt fucking matter if he has to invest more than just buying the sex outright Paying for sex is not the same, period. And casual sex is cheaper than buying a prostitute anyway. It's not a matter of what men want, it's a matter of what men can afford If you can't afford/refuse to participate in normal society, then you can't complain about not getting casual sex. Do you think women should just magically appear at your feet, ready to bone? No on…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 06:53 PM
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If you chose to live in a low population, traditional area, don't be surprised when there's fewer opportunities for casual sex and fewer attractive women. . I dont know about you but it seems like the expected return is actually worse than a lottery ticket No, it goes from "zero" to "almost guaranteed, if you try. Plus, nightlife is fun, and going to the gym is just basic self care. Buying clothes other than "company swag" isn't much of a stretch, but if it's so distasteful to you, again, don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 05:53 PM
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It doesn't have to be every night. Women don't want to commit because they have a lot more to lose. This idea that "women can't get commitment" is false. They can't get it on demand, in large part because a man who wants to commit is undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 04:18 PM
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My point is that they do like casual sex, society just shames them out of admitting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 04:17 PM
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A famous athlete is automatically higher than a 5.5 though. Any guy who's a 6 or above can get casual sex if he tries.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 03:54 PM
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Sub 15% bodyfat is already top third. 5'10 is top 50%. So yeah, actually the guy you described is probably top 10%..
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 03:53 PM
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Depends on your age. For 20-something men, way more than 5% are good looking, fit, good hair and decent personality. For 50 year olds? Probably well under 5%
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 03:52 PM
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If you're in college or in a big city, it really does not take much time or resources to get casual sex. Lift weights, eat right and dress reasonably well (which you should do anyway) Participate in nightlife and approach women Use Tinder That's all it takes. Any guy who Looks Good and Talks to Girls can get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 03:50 PM
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If women don't like slutting around why is it so common? Whatever happened to the Redpill idea of "watch what they do, not what they say?"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 03:44 PM
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Not really. Most women aren't chasing after commitment. They want to have a good time. Men who aren't creepy/desperate recognize that turning down sex is a rejection because women expect to fuck within 3 dates (usually 2). They get bored/uninterested if you don't try.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 03:42 PM
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There's basically no way around those, and HSV in particular is not really worth stressing over.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 03:20 PM
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https://medium.com/thats-what-t-said/are-women-at-greater-risk-for-stds-than-men-d52ea43f5850#:~:text=According%20to%20a%20recent%20survey,of%20men%20say%20the%20same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 03:07 PM
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I don't, but that's the attitude here. And "freedom" is a relative term. Antifa's idea of freedom is "Fuck 12, smash the state". It's also really not surprising for the government to take action against groups that want to overthrow them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 02:55 PM
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It's just a term for militant anti-fascists "Militant" is the key word here, especially when people in antifa's definition of "fascism" is "the entire police force, every Republican, and quite a few Democrats in government"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 02:31 PM
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STD testing is part of routine women's healthcare, and it's not for men. Plus the fact that women go the doctor more anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 02:20 PM
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STDs simply aren't that common, though. In the US at least, if you're white, Hispanic, or Asian, only about 2% of women aged 20-24 catch Chlamydia in a year, and that's total number who have it at any point (i.e. not all the time). Gonorrhea is well under 0.5%. For older and younger ages it's far less. Syphilis and HIV are basically non-factors for straight people. Even if you make adjustments for the fact that more promiscuous people are more likely to have an STD, you're still talking less tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 02:00 PM
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Women are more likely to get tested for STDs, simple as that. Chlamydia in particular is screened for routinely as part of an annual checkup (and women are more likely to get annual checkups)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 01:56 PM
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The wikipedia link you posted showed that there's over 2 male doms for every female sub, in 1995. The numbers are even worse now. And you don't need to specifically search for a sub. They pretty much all are. Today. Bull. Shit. There's 3-4 kinky men for every kinky woman, and 80% of kinky women are dommmes. Submissive women are very, very, very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 04:51 AM
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Human nature doesn't change. Yes, it does. It's still exactly the same today. No, it's not. Women are empowered now. Almost all are dommes in a just society it turns out. Us actual doms have no problem finding female subs. Yes, we do. Unless you want to fuck hogs or something. Female subs are very, very, very rare. Very few girls will even accept a hand around their neck, let alone anything kinkier. I just showed you, even 25 years ago, there were 2.5 male doms for every female sub. Now, it's ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 04:47 AM
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ahm nope It literally says it in your link. 71% of men are dominant, and that was in the 1990s. With porn, I have to believe it's more like 80-90% now. For straight men? Probably about 95%. most females (even outside those who openly identify as kinky) are subs. Bullshit. Maybe in the 1990s. Now? Easily 80+% of women overall are dommes, probably 95% of those who identify as "kinky".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 04:41 AM
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Wikipedia is not a great source.... But either way, that vague study proves my point. Kinky men outnumber women 2-to-1, and the vast majority of men are dominant. I.e. there's a lot of dominant men. Fully 50% of participants are dominant men. Submissive women, based on 1995 numbers, are 0.7*0.3 = 21% of participants. So even 25 years ago, there were 2.5 dominant men for every submissive woman. In the modern era, there are far, far more dominant women. I'd argue the majority are dominant women. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 04:29 AM
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he stats are well known in the kink world. And they are consistent. Us male Doms have no problems finding subs. Citation needed, because that does not match my experience. Males vastly outnumber women in "being kinky", and the vast majority of women are dommes. Period. Very few women are even "switches", let alone "submissive". An attractive, submissive woman is extremely rare. Hell, a submissive woman under 140 pounds basically doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 04:23 AM
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You talked bullshit like a RP'er.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 04:08 AM
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In what parallel world? In reality. 95% of kinky women are dommes. Women who are subs are very rare, among women who identify as kinky and women who don't. It's very rare to find a woman who's even open to being a sub, let alone prefers it. Sub women are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 04:08 AM
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No, my dream would be the exact opposite. Sub women are rare. Domme women are the vast majority of "kinky" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 03:57 AM
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Women with established careers are just as flightly as the shiftless women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 03:49 AM
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This isn't a controversial view. Everyone with half a brain, or who grew up with parents who gave them any advice at all, knows that women hate sluts more than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 03:12 AM
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What a shock! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 03:10 AM
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I fucked up and picked a career that doesn't exist in NYC, working on a shift atm. Though it's not like women in NYC aren't flightly in their 20s, it's just that raw numbers/culture means there's more older women who are more willing to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 03:07 AM
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There's no where that hot women aren't flightly in their 20s. I think it's just an age thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 03:00 AM
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I did move. Where I live now, at least people are single in their 20s. Where I grew up, everyone who's not obese or a single parent was of the market by 24.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 02:53 AM
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Don't you live in Australia and used to live in LA? Those are a unique evironment (both similar to each other but different from good ol' mainstream USA)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 02:46 AM
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Where the fuck do you live? Somewhere that doesn't have beach volleyball :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 02:20 AM
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I guess I just put off asshole, player vibes, which is hillarious to me given that I'm 5'6 and have been balding since I was like 19-20. If you're meeting women in clubs or on Tinder you're going to get much more flightyness than eHarmony or intramural sports. Hot women don't use eHarmony, and no single, hot women play intramural sports.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 02:17 AM
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Then figure it the fuck out in college. That's your one reset cord in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 02:14 AM
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Terrorism is rare but we still scan bags at the airport for bombs. This is called "security theatre".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 02:10 AM
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Paternity fraud is very rare. The culture of suspicion that paternity testing would create would have too many negative side effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 02:03 AM
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I guess I just roll in weird circles. In fact, the only women I've been committed to were very attractive (which is pretty standard for guys IIRC). Well duh, at least personally, I only want to be in a relationship with the girls that are hot. My point is that the less attractive women are more relationship oriented. IME, attractive women are easy to fuck if you have basic seduction skills, willing to have casual/FWB things, but they're not keen on relationships/committment. It's basically the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 02:02 AM
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Because it creates a culture of distrust that would cause more harm than good.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 01:57 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 01:51 AM
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If we had mandatory paternity tests, most men would have less of a problem with wifing sluts Men's issue with wifing up sluts has nothing to do with paternity testing. It's 100% to do with outdated social pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 01:48 AM
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"Mandatory" paternity tests implies that they happen regardless of a woman's sexual past. Why should women with low n-count be treated like a cheating whore with a paternity test?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 01:33 AM
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FDS is mostly correct in a hyperbolic way, it's just mostly fat/ugly women with weird hangups who take it too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 01:31 AM
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Maybe our definition of "flighty" is different then. My experience is that attractive women are open to casual sex within reason, but they are very flightly when it comes to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 01:30 AM
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Especially considering I've dated plenty of very attractive non-flighty women. Your definition of attractive is different than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 12:38 AM
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Between you and I, I think it's a new way for women to get a hold of a man's resources without having to ... you know, put out. How though? Friends give friends money and time on basically a quid-pro-quo basis. I mean, it's not like you keep an exact ledger of favors you give your buddies, but there's a basic level of give and take there. It's still just "friendship" if you aren't fucking. I really just don't fucking understand these people. AF/BB, yeah, sure, simps have always been out there an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 12:01 AM
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BULLSHIT. Kinky women are even more pozzed/SJW than normal, so I highly doubt that's true. Again, maybe among old, fat Boomers, but people under 30, definitely most kinky women are dommes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:54 PM
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I mean again, that's just "friendship". The concept of intimate friendship goes back to the start of recorded history, even older than marriage for love. Just God damn with redditors. They will post threads about "dating" somebody for 2 years, in their late 20s, but never had sex. Edit: Made it generic instead of sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:53 PM
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And submissive women are very rare! You're lucky. Women who are submissive are fucking rare, and you can't just bring it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:51 PM
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I'm talking about women in the bedroom specifically. They're very rarely into "kinky" shit. Try to even put your hand around a woman's neck during sex, let alone suggest something seriously freaky, she'll freak out, maybe call the cops if you're really unlucky. You just can't do that shit IRL, despite Red and Purple pillers claiming that it's normal or even "expected". The "most women are dominant" thing has nothing to do with real life. Most of the women who are overtly dominant work some shitt…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:48 PM
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#2 is simply atonishing. How are there adults out there who think that you can be in a "relationship" with someone that you aren't having sex with? That's just called "friendship" lmfao. Edit: Forgot the escape character
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:47 PM
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There are good men out there who are dominant without fucking over women. I agree. But what does that have to do with what I've said - that the vast majority of women are dominant rather than submissive?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:37 PM
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It says man or woman. Since it's college, my guess is that they sampled a bunch of lesbian/bi/curious women. I'm being half-sarcastic, but you have to question this research because a lot of college professors are weird, nerdy perverts. The people who ran this survey very likely manipulated the data to push a narrative to justify their own sexual misconduct.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:35 PM
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They are. Guys who like rough-sex are porn-sick freaks or nerds with some sort of revenge/power-trip fantasy. Guys who are traditional "alphas" usually either have small dicks, or they are total softies because they get to have the satisfaction of dominance in every other aspect of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:34 PM
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If they saw it that way, I'm sure there would be more submissive women. I wish there were. Fact is, there's very few. A majority of men and women are dominant. Submissive men and women are in high demand because there's so few of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:32 PM
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Those subreddits are almost 100% male. Stupidslutsclub and Rapekink are basically all disgusting fat perverts jacking off in their basement. Fifty Shades of Grey was a pervert book that the media pushed. Most women aren't actually into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:29 PM
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Yeah, and IRL women who get into BDSM do it to empower themselves and be DOMINANT. The vast majority of women who are "kinky" are strict dommes, lots more are dom-leaning, and very few like to be submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:28 PM
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If you think rape kink doesn't have female lurkers... I wish it were possible to bet on the shit. It doesn't. It's porn sick or simply mentally ill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:27 PM
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Bullshit. BDSM is about role-reversal. Most women are discminiated against in real life, and men are powerful. Women who aren't straight up vanilla almost always get into kink because it's empowering. They're all dommes. Female subs basically don't exist. Almost no women like "rough sex" like TRP claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:26 PM
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Where are all these subs?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:23 PM
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Everywhere in the US at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:23 PM
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I call bullshit. Under 25 especially, there are far, far, FAR more dominant women than submissive under the subset of "people who are kinky". Subs in general are a small minority, most people are doms.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:19 PM
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I wouldn't bet that because it's a hyperbolic statement. The point is that you can't argue that "rape kink has more members than FDS" when very clearly rape kink is full of male perverts. FDS probably has way more readers than subscribers as well because lots of women read it but don't subscribe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:17 PM
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The "kink scene" is fat, ugly Boomers. Who gives a shit about that? I'm talking about women that claim to be "kinky"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:13 PM
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Norms will be different in 20-30 years, so your kids won't suffer. And regardless, having kids with a whore >>>>> than no kids at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:12 PM
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Rejects them in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:11 PM
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There's basically zero women on Tinder who claim to be subs, and a shit-ton who are doms. Women who like the rough-shit like TRP claims "all" women want are very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:10 PM
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"Fuckboys" aren't real. That's just a defensive mechanism women claim when a guy rejects them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:08 PM
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All attractive women are flighty though, and so are 90% of unattractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:07 PM
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Bullshit. 90% of women who are "kinky" are Doms or Dom-leaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:07 PM
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I'm basing this based on ACTIONS, not words. For the record, I'm a dominant-leaning guy. I want to be rough in bed. I didn't have to be "red pilled" about how women supposedly want to be manhandled or something - I want them to like that. Women don't like that, though, that's just something we live with. Women always complain about world class assholes as well, then they go and fuck them later that night. What does that have to do with whether or not women like rough sex? In general, "alpha" guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:04 PM
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99% of the posters on rape kink are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:03 PM
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Bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:02 PM
1

I'm not talking about my mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:02 PM
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Any woman who can divide by zero is one I'd happily play along with FDS games for.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 09:51 PM
1

Norms change. And Europoors are 5-10 years behind the US on most things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 09:50 PM
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I've only made 1 "post" (i.e. top-level thread) in a subreddit asking about fitness equipment, that's why lmfao. I have no reason to make a top-level thread. You tried to bet me like $20k over the stock market low/market timing a month ago (which BTW, I was right on, but I wasn't going to be with some reddit guy because I don't have $20k to blow on a prop bet). Who's really the troll? The 10 point scale is meaningless because "hotness" isn't something that you can break down that precisely. Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 09:24 PM
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LMAO, most women want to be dominant or completley vanilla. Look at FDS - what do they complain about? They complain about men being too dominant! Very few women want to be submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 09:15 PM
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Every woman can get an HVM: That's not mathematically possible, unless you believe that 95% of men can be "HVM", or are cool with polygamy (which I'm pretty sure FDS explicity is not)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 09:12 PM
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Bullshit. Most women hate rough sex, and of the ones that do like it rough, there are far, far, far more dominant women than submissive women. Submissive, kinky women are very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 09:09 PM
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FDS women want a loyal man who wants LTR with them You don't need a "strategy" to get that though, you just have to be serious. Most women are too flightly, so any man with sense/experience knows not to treat them too seriously for the first few months.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 09:06 PM
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Yes, it is. You're a dumb sperg if you judge women for having an OnlyFans.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 09:03 PM
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For society in general. That's my point - part of the reason why so many women have an OnlyFans is because nobody gives a shit anymore. Only weird men with hangups care if they're girl posted nudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 09:00 PM
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No, I say it doesn't work because in general, it doesn't. Read my original post - everything is life is luck/probability based. Some people make it work, but odds are, you can't keep up the delusion forever. Also, a lot of those cases are because historically, women needed men more than men needed women. In the modern era, that's not the case (being in a relationship is more critical for a man than a woman).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 08:21 PM
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It works to get laid, but not to have a long-term relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 08:17 PM
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I don't mean literally planning a date, that's just common sense. I mean trying to force a relationship/attraction in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 08:14 PM
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No, some people just aren't meant to find anyone. Trying to force things is guaranteed to fail, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 08:11 PM
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Dating is a mythical thing that just happens to lucky people. You can take control of your life to a certain extent and maximize your odds of success, but luck (really just a folk word for "probability") always plays a factor. Trying to be calculating in dating is a recipe for disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 07:46 PM
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The 10 point scale is meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 07:44 PM
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The long-term effects will be that a lot of women will get more money than they would have had otherwise, good for them! The whole reason OnlyFans is getting so popular is because the stigma is gone. Is it exploting people's thirst? Yes, but there's nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 07:42 PM
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How so? Sex is something that just happens when you put young men and young women together. That's why for thousands of years, there have been strong efforts to get people to keep it in their pants. Until we had mass media and a complex society where punishments actually mean something, sex just happened. Modern technology and norms are very sophisticated, which has made social bonds of all sort break down (including normal dating/sex)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 02:31 PM
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Nobody with a mental age past 18 is "in a relationship" before they've had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 02:29 PM
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How are there men that can have casual sex with attractive women but can't get a girlfriend then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 02:32 PM
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Bullshit they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 02:27 PM
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He doesn't even need to be hot for fucking. Hotness matters more for dating because it's an element of "socially acceptable"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 02:13 PM
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It's just basic logic dude. You have sex before you have a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 01:54 PM
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Bullshit. Getting laid is easy. Getting in a relationship is hard because women are flighty
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 01:49 PM
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All of that will help you get casual sex, but it won't help you get a girlfriend. Women are much pickier with dating than they are with fucking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 12:34 PM
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Talking to strange women out in public is creepy and selfish though. You acted creepy until you found a girl that was OK with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 12:32 PM
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"Considered". It was rape lmfao. Past generations just excused rape, that's what "rape culture" means
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 11:32 AM
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Indirectly, yes. It's called "networking"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 02:00 AM
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Again, are these women you'd actually fuck? Probably not, it's some fucking cow.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 01:47 AM
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$$$
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 01:44 AM
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They have half a dozen grandchildren. That's not what the "Darwin awards" means lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 01:44 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 01:42 AM
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I'm talking about high-normies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 01:41 AM
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It sucks, obviously. The reall killer is the uncertainty. Being told "you can't have sex for the next 6 months" is tough, but it's a goal you can work towards. The current situation, for people who aren't already in a serious relationship is basically "you can't have sex for an indefinite period" because everyone is a fucking pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 01:37 AM
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But they're the elite. End of. There's no point to hanging with lames, that's how you end up complaining about people's bad behavior. If you want to hang with single mothers, "husky" people, people who are always down on their luck, yeah, I guess there's never any limits. If you want to make something of your life, yes, there are hard limits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 01:33 AM
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Because it's not just about me, it's a general trend. I'm a grown adult now. I just see other people here preaching the same bullshit that set me back, so I tell them not to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 01:28 AM
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Chad doesn’t ever do that. Yes, he does. He does it with his presence when he meets them at a bar/party/club/friend of a friend's kickback. hell, even an actual date that he takes them on after he meets them on Tinder. He doesn't fucking swipe right on them and order them to his house like a pizza. None of those women "simping for Chad" are talking about some dude they chatted with on Tinder. They're talking about a guy they already banged and are going back to. Even Chad has to do something to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 01:26 AM
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No, but it's a cycle. Nobody wants to make friends with the fucking freak who's 30 and doesn't have friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 01:25 AM
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Except that it has nothing to do with Online Dating. This is a tale as old as time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 12:36 AM
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The irony is that old retired people don't give a shit. My grandparents are 80+, multiple risk factors, and are pissed at the "liberals" who won't let them get a haircut or go to the restaurants they like or make them wear a mask.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 12:35 AM
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Who gives a shit if your bed sheets are wrinkled?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 12:33 AM
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It's an entire culture that promotes that shit though. People just need to let their kids be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 12:31 AM
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You shouldn't encourage or discourage your kids from casual sex. Just let them be. Also, 18 is a normal age? Not really, given that I had girls who had crushes on me in middle school (and told me so). I lost my v card at 19 (only a year ago) and I regret it so much. He was just absolutely awful and kept telling me how much I’m a “starfish” (I had to look that up). That's not how the vast, vast, vast majority of men act in bed though. Most men are perfectly capable. Traditional relationships are …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 12:28 AM
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All of the cool Gen Xers OD'd 20+ years ago or were scared straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 12:27 AM
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No, they wouldn't. Zoom in on the pictures some time. You also don't know if they're bots lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:49 PM
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It happens, for sure. I went to a big party school. Because people hook up at parties/in Greek life at big party schools. It's more common in the big cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:41 PM
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"Woke progressive" women are the biggest prudes of all, lmfao. Normal, attractive women between 18-30. It's absolutely not. It's fucking hogs who are blinded by the fact that they matched with a model.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:40 PM
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If you raise your boys with confidence, allow them to play sports, let them hang out with girls their age from a very young age, This is key. Honestly, the biggest reason that I was a "late bloomer" (didn't have sex until age 18) is because my parents were so weird/invasive about dating. The whole idea of "don't let your kids date until a certain age" is an overcorrection that was spread by Boomers/early Xers who went absolutely insane in their youth. Restricting kids from normal inter-gender re…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:38 PM
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The best life-script for everyone - man or woman - is exactly how the upper middle class actually lives their lives: Get married as soon as possible after age 22. It's OK to date the same person from high school all the way until 22. Don't get divorced, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:34 PM
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What are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:34 PM
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I don't live anywhere near my older relatives. They make their own decisions, I'm not going to tell Grandma she can't go live her life. She's in her 80s. And quarantining the old has nothing to do with 20 and 30-somethings going to the bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:30 PM
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They're going to be one hell of a party, but everyone should be locked in their home like a Wall-E pod person? Dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:30 PM
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It's actually killing the Silent and WW2 Gen. And yeah, Gen X did take over, but that's a very, very bad thing. Gen X is cringe as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:29 PM
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Notice that all of those "simping for Chad" threads are about men the women already had sex with. Women simp for former flings/FWBs/ex-boyfriends. Not some random. She literally said "I set my alarm for 2am for my former ting". Chad was texting her lmfao. Women simp over booty calls they want to lock down. They didn't pursue him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:27 PM
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>THE SECOND WAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Being chicken little is why no one takes these things seriously, fyi. If it's a come to Jesus moment for you, then God speed, but don't throw a fit over people living their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:25 PM
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TWO MORE WEEKS BRO!!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:25 PM
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What kind of women though? The women in those threads are always obese when you zoom in on the profile picture. It's also completely cherry-picked. They never show you how many women that failed with. There's always been a subset of women who are reckless. Those women are the type who would fuck in a club bathroom 30 years ago. That's not the norm though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:23 PM
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Women are having less sex as well! Women are creeped out by the general idea of OLD, and the fact that they read a bunch of trumped up articles about "hookup culture" (which isn't even real) makes them paranoid and on-guard. Casual sex is gross and shameful. That's what makes it fun. Milennials are hyper-aware of that, which makes a lot of them retreat away from it. The economy has improved since 2008 but the phenomenon is actually accelerating. If the economy was the reason behind it ,it would …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:15 PM
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How is it contradictory? Both have happened. Casual sex is way, way less common in general, and there's a sex-gap between young men and young women in part because young women are fucking/shacking up with old dudes out of desperation. It's still a small minority, but it's more than it used to be. Remember there's only a 10% gap between men and women being sexless (and I'd argue that's a bit of an outlier).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:14 PM
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Those women didn't say that they met the guy through OLD, though. Some maybe went on a few dates with some guy from Tinder, but they vast majority of those are guys they met IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:13 PM
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Turns out that the gov't has been mixing serum tests with anti-body tests. That means that there's absolute no spike, and many people have already had this, lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:12 PM
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Maybe 8% of men are overweight but under 20% bodyfat. Maybe. It's probably closer to 5%, and plenty of men are normal weight but skinnyfat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 09:58 PM
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Good sex is a bit messy and a bit shameful. Milennials are far too self-aware to do that. "Hookup culture" is downright prudish compared to how average people acted in the 80s or 90s. Everybody just wants to feel like their life is a movie, so they exaggerate fooling around like a 9th grader to be "hooking up".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 09:56 PM
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The global financial crisis has a much, much bigger effect. OLD and social media made people have less sex, if anything. Women are much, much more guarded on OLD than they are in real life. Yes, even for Chad. A huge part of seduction is "sweeping a woman off her feet", in opposition to all of her friends/parents telling her to treasure her pussy basically. It's harder to do that over a screen than IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 09:54 PM
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What could have happened in those ten years? A massive economic upheavel. That made women fuck older men out of economic need. Tinder and OLD has made casual sex less common than it used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 09:52 PM
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Bullshit. "Hookup culture" did not exist before Covid (that's the point of OP's thread)*, and casual sex is going to go way, way down. Nobody is going to be any more desperate to fuck some weird Tinder rando, and now that no one is socializing or going to bars, casual sex is going to drop to zero. Tinder actually made casual sex less common, not more common. * I could go on and on about this, but one key thing to keep in mind is that a lot of people say "hookup" to mean "made out" or "second bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 09:48 PM
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Milennials don't do "hookup culture" right because they're neurotic prudes, period. It's not just because they're more sober (though that contributes). It's also because everyone is hyper-aware of being "used" or "using" people for sex, or for being a "fuckboy". 30 years ago, people just fucked and made bad decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 09:47 PM
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And how are they doing? The spike is right around the corner, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 09:46 PM
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>TWO MORE WEEKS Nowhere is going from strict lockdown to anything goes tbf.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 08:46 PM
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It's trivial to read between the lines with women, though. Dating/relationships are hard because women are fickle and flightly, not because they're hard to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 08:43 PM
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Male social ineptitude is a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 08:42 PM
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Because normal, desirable people have a family by the time they are 30, and they have enough friends. It's only fucking weirdos, like incels, or toxic people who got the boot, that are out trolling because they're lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 05:53 PM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 05:52 PM
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It's not, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 02:47 PM
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You have a biased view of the world, so it must be true! You bang sluts and extrapolate on every woman that exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 01:23 PM
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Except that OLD makes women feel like shit and it raises the guard up to an insane degree. If OLD was "validating" for women, Tinder wouldn't be 70+% men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 01:13 PM
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Yes, I have (330 BS, 155 OHP at 155 BW). It's not "hard" to lift 4 days a week and not shovel garbage in your face 24/7
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 01:11 PM
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Entertainment is not the issue. There's always been entertainment.The issue is a culture that infantalizes people and is obsessed with "safety" and being "busy". Kids aren't allowed to go "buck wild" anymore, they get arrested. It's been hammered home for decades that if you have sex, you'll get someone pregnant (and ruin your life) and get ultra mega AIDS instantly. Partying? Can't do that, ugh I'm sooo busy! Drinking, drugs? Out of the question. Young people don't fuck because they've been cod…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 01:10 PM
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Those that have sex have a lot of it. That's bullshit though. You just parrot whatever you read in the manosphere and declare it to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 01:05 PM
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The problem is that you can't just "get" a social life. Once you're an incel, there's really no coming back for those guys. There's a limited window where you can make social connections, and it closes rapidly after about 22-23.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 01:04 PM
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be rather than getting out there and figuring out how to live it. A gLoBaL pAnDeMiC for one thing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 01:03 PM
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Dude, if it takes you "work" to look like the first guy, just l m f a o
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 12:53 PM
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Again, I'm kind of getting the impression that everyone who talks about fitness / muscles on reddit has never actually done it. You can tell that they are lazy fatasses or just shut-ins when they claim than the guy in the first pic requires "years of hard work" to achieve, not 3-4 hours in the gym a week and not eating like an absolute pig.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 07:00 PM
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Bullshit it does. The first guy is attainable with 1-2 years of putting in some effort (not HARD WORK or the other bullshit people claim). The 2nd guy requires roiding and a lot of lifting. Go to the gym for a year with a basic strength routine 3-4 days a week for 1 hour, watch your diet (no crap, not being anal about it), and take a picture in good lighting/with a pump/with your pants pulled down so your love handles look like obliques, and you can look like guy 1
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 06:57 PM
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Male feminists are predators
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 01:16 PM
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In the US, for white and black women, it's about 15-20% and 8-10% flat foot. Maybe 40% and 25% in heels.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 12:20 AM
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Big boys get to hook up with husky gals, damn, you really get all the luck! Your post actually matches up with my real life experience as a manlet. Heavier women are far, far more likely to care about height than women in general. Petite women of any height usually don't give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 12:17 AM
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There's far more women who've had sexual assault claims ignored, or who were too intimated to report them than there are men who's lives were ruined by false accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 12:13 AM
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California’s cases are way less than other places because of shelter in place and it worked. They aren't though. LA has EXACTLY THE SAME numbers as Georgia. California's numbers aren't significantly different from Florida or Texas per capita. Again, if you get the same result with different action, it means your action was probably useless. The models weren't correct. Period. "Science!" the cult religion is not the same as actual science. You have zero idea what my scientific background is. Disa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 02:39 PM
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Damn, I'm only a 5'6" manlet, but apprantly I'm "top 20%" because I've been able to get casual sex since my teen years. I must have model tier face + frame (my hairline is pretty bad)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 12:13 AM
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According to everyone. You break the rules, you deal with the consequences - maybe good, maybe bad. Chances make champions, but taking chances also lands people in jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 10:25 PM
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I think "the nuclear family" signifies a specific point in American history. Typically the mid 20th century. The "Leave It to Beaver" nuclear family is far, far more fetishized in early 21st century America than it was in mid-20th century America. Most Boomers grew up near their cousins, second cousins, aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc. My grandparents were born in the middle of the 20th century, and all 4 of them spent a significant portion of their childhood living with relatives other than th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 10:20 PM
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Social proof and comfort. Women aren't that picky when it comes to men, as long as those men are part of their social circle. Women only "exclusively" chase guys in the "top 20%" when it comes to having sex with strangers. The breakdown in organic social interaction means that fewer men are in social situations where they can make women comfortable, and in uncomfortable situations, women are only going to "risk it" for top-tier men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:43 PM
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There's no proof that lockdowns actually do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:40 PM
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There are - what do you call Northern CA attempting to reopen our parks? What do you call us reopening retail? A political game, that's exactly my point. 2 months ago, lockdown was a prudent, temporary strategy. At this point, there is ZERO proof that intense restrictions make a difference. It's all bullshit. We did the experiment, and it turns out there's no point. The experiment is over, time to leave the goon cave. Again, why is Georgia open without an issue, and LA is going to stay in war ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:21 PM
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If this was pure political theater, then entities in charge would not be trying to reopen. They aren't. THAT'S MY POINT. LA, Oregon, et cetera are extending their orders with zero regard for science. Georgia has ALREADY been open for weeks and has the EXACT SAME outcomes as LA. What is the "science" behind extending LA's stay at home order for 3 months? None, it's a fucking game. Because governments are trying to reopen Governments reopening vs not is pure political theatre, and it has zero impa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:04 PM
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Yes, those are the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:35 PM
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Depends on what she considers tall. Only about 20% of young white and black American men are 6 foot or taller when you measure their height. It's not unrealistic, but it's simple not mathematically possible for every single woman to have a husband who's 6 foot tall because polygamy is illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 07:33 PM
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And you usually don't ask someone out with your first message on a dating app. Swiping right is the equivalent of saying hello.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 07:29 PM
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Take a look at all of the laughable "rules" fabricated as to when it's appropriate to approach a women. The rules are excatly the same as they've always been: Don't approach women outside of mutual friends or nightlife. Anything else is rolling the dice. The thing is that a lot of women like men who don't follow the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 07:27 PM
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the age of the nuclear family You mean right now? The nuclear family has never been more central to society than it is now. In the "good old days" 30 or 40 or 50 years ago, extended families were still a big deal. Most adults in the 1960s regularly interacted with cousins, aunts, grandparents, etc. The idea of the "family" meaning just "you, your spouse, under-18 kids, fuck everyone else in the world" has accelerated quite a bit in the 21st century.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 07:23 PM
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A study by YouGov found that people below the age of 25 had the fewest friends and the fewest acquaintances, meaning they're lonelier than people of older age groups. Fewer friends doesn't mean that people are lonelier. It doesn't mean that they are single either. A lot of p This is something I've said many times. Young people have fewer friends because they settle down early into married life and drift away from friends by their early 20s. They aren't involved in church or social clubs like pas…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 07:22 PM
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Georgia and Los Angeles county have almost exactly the same population (~10 million), cases (~36,000), and deaths (~1700-1900). Georgia's "stay at home" order started 2 weeks later than LA's, and it expired almost 3 weeks ago. Anecdotally, people in red states never took it as seriously as people in big blue cities. Secondly, Georgia just reopened, we won’t see how it is for a few weeks Georgia reopened on April 27th. It's been a few weeks, no spike. Look at Sweden - they didn’t do any lockdown …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 07:10 PM
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I claimed that it was not and that government will attempt to reopen when safe to do so. It will never be "safe to do so". That's what makes it a power grab! Other parts of the country have already opened up (Georgia). Because the lockdowns are not, and likely have never been, anything but political theatre inspired by the most anxious and obnoxious members of the population. That's the point. It's 100% politically motivated, and it's increasingly obvious that it has been the entire time. Georgi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 04:12 PM
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For either a man or woman, I'd say that a "high" body count is: 10+ by age 21 20+ by 28ish 30+ by 40 FWIW I'm a guy and I don't think a "high" body count is bad for a woman (double the "high" number would be iffy for a relationship). It's not necessarily impressive for a man either because quality matters. An average schlub with a very hot wife is way more impressive than some guy who racks up big numbers with fatties or hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 10:50 PM
0

https://abc7news.com/la-county-coronavirus-update-stay-at-home-order-date-shutdown-quarantine-extension/6176163/ L M F A O
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:48 PM
8

People say the same thing about men in ultra-"woke" parts of the US like the SF Bay Area or Seattle as well
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:35 PM
4

Makes sense. A lot of men get off on the thrill of the chase, not actually having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:32 PM
1

No they don't. It's not 1999 anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:31 PM
3

Because women are embarrassed by the idea of meeting someone online or are more likely to view it as "casual only"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:09 PM
-1

BB isn't real though. Why would a woman bother going out in public with some loser?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:04 PM
1

I thought you were some sort of alpha chaser?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:28 PM
1

Average means top 20%. Do you even PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:24 PM
1

There's lies, damn lies, and statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:20 PM
2

Utah and Oregon are also "nice places". Try the rural Midwest
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:19 PM
1

Married men make more though, and so do men with college degrees. I'd suspect the median for that group is at least $80k. I should have said "most men with a college degree". If you're under 50, you knew you were supposed to go to college, so no excuse. And frankly, in most of the country, you can support a family with $60k a year. There's lots of places where a starter home is $120-150k
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 07:00 PM
1

America? $80k is an average new grad salary lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 06:55 PM
1

. I honestly have no idea but I'd guess maybe around 80-100k is when you start seeing more SAHMs in a lot of the country. And most men in their 30s and 40s make $80-100k or more. Incomes aren't evenly distributed. Edit: Most men with college degrees. Any 30 something guy knew he had to go to college to earn a decent living.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 05:34 PM
2

In our current society, stay at home wives (or husbands) are a luxury No, they aren't. Most people can afford to raise a family on one income. You just can't live in California or NYC or in a swanky downtown condo most places.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 05:32 PM
3

Jerks get more short-term sex because they're assertive (to the controversy of nobody). Being an asshole isn't sexy—assertiveness is I disagree with this actually. It's more that meekness is very unsexy for men. Assertiveness is actually very, very unattractive in a lot of circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:24 AM
4

FDS is a bit different though. TRP steals a lot of concepts from black culture, but not that much slang. "Simp" only got popular in the last few months. FDS is very distinctly lower class women. That unfortunately gets equated with. "black" in America, but there is a very distinct sort of "voice" for lack of a better term that makes it seem like most of the posters there are black. Not even slang, just a general way of talking and looking at the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:03 PM
2

This sub is full of people who never go outside and assume life is like an early 2000s MTV spring break special for everyone else, all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:19 PM
0

That's not the "average" girl lmfao. Going out 2-3 nights a week is well above average for any college student
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:18 PM
4

Having sex with 20+ people in 4-5 years of college is rare. Most people, even those with a "high sociosexual orientation" aren't consistently banging 2-3 new people every semester. At some point, most people get into some sort of relationship or take a break or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:15 PM
1

The manosphere had always copied a lot from the dysfunctional aspects of black culture. Basically all "red pill" advice can be found if you listen to Patrice O'Neal or 90s hip hop.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:12 PM
0

Life
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 01:45 AM
5

Absolutely. Most men are digusted by the fact that women simp hard over older men. We think it's shameful. But 21 year old women lust after """mature""" 29 year olds, so men are forced to perpetuate the cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 01:02 AM
1

Gymcels are the norm for guys who go to the gym lmfao. Most in-shape guys are terrible with women, especially if they work out regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:59 AM
2

Seriousy. Being a "fuckboy" is almost as distressing as being an incel. Yeah, you get validation for a night, but it's fleeting. "They offered me a million bucks, all I want's a steady fuck" - Gen X wisdom that applies to both the Chads and Incels of the late-Milennial years.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 10:03 PM
1

Learn to use your fingers (come hither motion, find the spongy spot) and be passionate during sex (i.e. focus on the rest of her body, have good strokes) and you're good to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 10:00 PM
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lmao, FDS won't help. Smart men know that they advice FDS gives is "how bitter women act" (same way that TRP is just "how terrible men act"). Maybe absorb some of it to have some self-respect, but be careful because going orthodox FDS will just drive men away even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 09:44 PM
3

lmao, Women in general have pretty bad judgment in men, and women who've been traumatized have worse-than-coin-flip awareness/judgment of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 09:23 PM
1

What if you're a man who has "SMV" but not "RMV"?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 09:22 PM
4

Women have terrible taste in men and never learn, news at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 09:19 PM
1

People who are single past age 22 are bad at picking partners, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:23 PM
3

Most people do settle down in their 20s, though. And being settled down is far, far more enjoyable than being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:20 PM
2

They are. Sexless rates for women are also rising Women tend to date older men so looking at a younger age group is always going to have slightly more men who are sexless than women (i.e. 23 and 24 year old women fucking their 26 year old bfs)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:36 PM
1

It's not hypergamy, it's just a general breakdown in social relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:35 PM
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General alienation. Sex is messy, risky, and requires in-person interaction. All things people have been taught to hate and fear. Obesity probably plays a role as well. People aren't very healthy in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:24 PM
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It's 40% of 18-24 year olds. That could very easily mean 50-60% of 18 year olds and only 25% of 24 year olds are virgins. So much for "hookup" culture or Tinder turning everyone into a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:22 PM
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I am reading, which is why I call you a hypocite. West Coast governors, including Newsom, and "medical experts" in general support far, far more restrictive norms that you claim. Seriously, the average young liberal will not interact with anyone outside of their ~household~ because the big daddy government and "health officials" say that it's not safe. Maybe you're being reasonable, maybe you're a decent medical professional, but the consensus, on the ground, is very different. Libs and Leftists…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:30 AM
1

Dude, I wasn't a tattle tale. That's why I fucking hate lockdown, and I hate hypocrites like you who promote "lockdown for thee, but not for me"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:25 AM
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There is nowhere in the US that has a "stay at home" order (which includes California) where it's OK to be making out with people you don't live with, period. For the record, I'm OK with all of that. But that's not public opinion, that's not what the government is saying, and you can't be pro-lockdown and do those things. You're not winning, you're a hypocrite. Restrictions on social life for the dumb swine, doctors and public health experts get to live it up while telling everyone that they nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 09:48 PM
1

You're a hypocrite. "Stay at home" means stay at home - not go to hike or to the park. "Don't get within 6 feet of anyone outside of your household" doesn't mean "it's OK to see your FWB".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 08:21 PM
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You're a hypocrite, plain and simple. It's nothing to do with "boring" or having a "better" life - you just have no morals. Lockdown for thee, but not for me. What a heroic ~healthcare worker~
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 06:30 PM
1

Basically anywhere that's not an elite metro area in the Anglosphere. There's huge parts of America where you can find a house for $100k. Mortgage + taxes ends up being about $600 a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 12:12 PM
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Reddit in general has few black people, so 15-20% of the posters being black here feels like a lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 12:10 PM
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Lots of men want to get married and have kids - dating fucking sucks for men who aren't nihilists. Women rarely want to have a relationship is the problem. Most women either marry a high school sweetheart or just want flings because they have been brainwashed to think that work is soooo hard that they can't handle both a relationship and their paper-pushing job.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:48 AM
1

You can. It's just very few women will hold back on sex with a guy they actually like.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:45 AM
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The man's intent is mostly based on how interesting and attractive you are. Beyond that, it really doesn't matter when you sleep with him or what games you play. If you just ask up-front, a guy who wants a relationship will be honest, and a guy who doesn't will give a cagey answer like "let's just wait and see". Shit-testing and games can work a bit, but going to harsh will drive an honest guy away.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:44 AM
1

Lots of women do not read bios. Lots swipe based off of the first picture like the stereotypical horny man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:41 AM
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You're talking to a guy who thinks "casual sex" means that he can literally order women to his house from Tinder. Then he blames being short on the fact that none of them want to come over.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:39 AM
2

It doesn't take much.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:38 AM
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Must be different on the West Coast. Communicating through screens is not a "social life". Not being allowed to visit anyone in person or properly date or socialize is not "reconnecting" Sure it’s different but it works. I even went on a hike with a tech the other day and we ended up making out lol. No wonder you think it's good - you're a hypocrite! Just like Neil Ferguson, the guy who said millions would die if we didn't all lock ourselves at home, and then he snuck out to bang his mistress! Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:31 AM
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Rule by public health is martial law, and social relations are doomed because so no many people, women moreso ime, turn their brain off when they hear big scary numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 04:36 PM
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Just to let you know I’m an MD with a masters in public health. I don’t think lockdown will be forever both scientifically or governmentally (as you claimed). I live in California, an extremely liberal state. You are an extreme outlier for your sort of field. Even suggesting that we might be able to reopen is a big no-no for most """experts""". The fact that you said it's OK to go to the beach makes me kinda doubt you are in PH or medicine. And what do your “smart” friends say about the news reg…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 05:24 PM
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Are the circles you hang out with highly educated people with experience in public health or disaster planning? Yes, they are. That's what worries me. The """smart""" people are the ones who want to hide in a cave forever. The "dumbasses" are the ones who think this is a blatant power grab which will destroy social interaction (including gender relations to stay on topic)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:32 PM
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I'm glad that you're optimistic. Where I live and in the circles I hang around, people are convinced that it's more dangerous than ever and want lockdowns to go on endlessly. Believe me, I want it to end tomorrow. But again, everything I see in the news and what I hear from people around me indicates zero will to reopen or loosen anything
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:18 PM
1

A good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:57 PM
1

And you have more opportunities to live NOW if you have kids. Society heavily incentivizes having a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:56 PM
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Odds are you aren't important enough to do anything of note. Your children are your legacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:23 PM
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Yes, they're called friendships. An "open" relationship doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:22 PM
1

Exactly. People should be getting married at 20-22, and lots are. Given current economic realities and how we incentivize families, that's the rational choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:21 PM
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An "open" relationship is not loving, or even a relationship at all. It's an oxymoron.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:58 PM
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Because having children is literally your purpose on Earth? Because having kids gives you a shit ton of social and economic privilege (basically everything except casual sex)?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:57 PM
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A lot of women have zero idea what they actually want. That's why they claim to want a long-term relationship and somehow always get pumped and dumped. Or want an "alpha husband" and keep dating manchildren. Or want someone "mature" but somehow always end up with guys who have disgusting apartments and sleep on the floor. Women do tend to be very good at "soothing" or cheering people up. That's why they tell men that generically good traits like "intelligence" or "kindness" or "being determined"…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 01:59 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 01:56 PM
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I don't see any signs of loosening lockdown anywhere. I see states extending indefinitely and mandating masks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 12:46 PM
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They seem extremely happy. Lots of men just have impotent revenge fantasies about women aging.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 11:40 AM
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What kind of woman do you think goes over to a stranger's house without even a date? Do you realize how insane that sounds? /R/tinder is not reality lmfao. Seriously, you aren't a loser or a simp if you take a woman out for a drink or two first, God damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 11:36 AM
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But matches don’t mean anything if you can’t get women to come over for a hookup. Nobody does that! Tinder is not Grindr man, you don't order pussy to your fucking door. What kind of woman goes to a stranger's house off an app, jfc? Have you tried asking any of these matches out on a date? It ain't that hard. Yeah, the success rate is low, but with 1000 matches, some will agree to dates and if you're not a sperg, some of them will fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 11:34 AM
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No, it's not. Have some self-esteem and be realistic dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 11:33 AM
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That's not exactly the case. Approaching women isn't a cognitive task.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 11:29 AM
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Extremely Dunning Kruger post dude. If you're smart, you can learn to dumb it down for your audience as needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 11:28 AM
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Mature 24 year old men get married/taken off the market before 30. The less mature men don't. 30 year old men on average are more mature, but the subset "single" 30 year old men is much less mature
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 11:19 AM
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I want to stick my dick in pussy as fast as I can. Then you need to be on backpage, not TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 02:20 PM
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That's because men purposefully treat women gently. Pretty much every boy has an experience from childhood where you try to treat a girl "equally", and it ends with her crying and/or physically hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 02:11 PM
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LOL, you overestimate men's desire for sex and overesimate women's desire. Both men and women want to fuck, strongly. Men appraoach, though, and women accept. Occasionally women approach, but only when their horniness exceeds the social norm that women don't approach. In extreme cases, though, if the girl is really horny or the guy is a stretch for her, she'll approach him and make it happen. I'm an average looking, very short (5'6") guy who started going bald at 16. Women still have made it ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 03:12 AM
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Idk, I've always been attracted to women in the 25-35 range, even when I was 9 or 10 years old. When I was 18-20, I was certainly attracted to 18-20 year olds, but at 26, 18-19 year olds honestly look like children to me. Lots of them are attracted to older men (likely due to trauma), but I can plainly say that I am not attacted to them. I can't even fucking imagine being 35 and being sexually attracted to a 19 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 12:56 AM
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No, it's just weird guys of all ages. A lot of women still look very immature when they are 18-20. It's pedo shit, or guys who just want to control a woman but are too weak to handle a woman who isn't immature/easy to handle. I've always been attracted to 20 and 30-something women in general as a man. Even when I was a teenager, at the peak of horniness, I still lusted after women in their 30s. Hot is hot. Guys who claim that 30-year-old women can't be hot are seriously the dregs of society. Eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 12:53 AM
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Mature 30 year old men are married. The average 30 year old is more mature than the average 24 year old, but the average single 30 year old is less mature. The mature ones exit the dating pool sooner because they are mature! It's just like the employment world. Good employees are almost never unemployed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 05:01 PM
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It absolutely did not. Coronavirus is making that more obvious than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 12:23 PM
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No, I went to a public University in the Midwest. My peers and I were making 70-80k for jobs in the Midwest
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 12:17 PM
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And Newsom just ordered that park to close today lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 12:13 PM
1

"Leftists" don't exist outside of the internet. How many "class war" liberals or "leftists" have you met irl?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 05:23 PM
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No one should ever take a "break" from dating imo. Your relationships are everything in a world that revolves around perceptions and the nuclear family.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 05:21 PM
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I knew people that graduated in the 2008-2012 era and their 20s basically never took off and they're ONLY starting to make decent salaries (over 40k) at around 30 LMFAO, $70-80k was a typical new grad salary in 2018/2019. Why would a woman date some 30 year old loser who couldn't get a woman and barely makes more than a guy her age? The economy has been fine since 2013-2014. If a 30 year old guy got his shit together, he makes more than young guys BUT a lot of those successful guys are already m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 05:15 PM
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I think that's regional more than it's class based. I live in a wealthy, very educated part of the US, and men here are short compared to the poor region I grew up in. I'm 5'6" and I'm never the shortest guy in the room here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 04:35 PM
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Because stranger danger. Most people do "vibe" in person. Most people don't meet someone online. They meet someone in high school or college, and that's that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 04:34 PM
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Class war liberals don't exist and never did. That's just a phase that many go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 04:31 PM
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Wrong. The vast majority of marriages have a husband who is 0 to 4 years older than his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 11:36 AM
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I don't know who the hell you've been associated with but a ton of sub 25 year old girls love more mature guys Yes, lower class, lower quality young women do. There's also a massive difference between a 24 year old dating a 28 year old vs a 22 year old dating a 32 year old. The "maturity" of single 30 year old men is overestimated by women as well. A guy who's single at 30 is less mature and stable than the average 24 year old single guy. The stable, mature guys are off the market by age 30
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 11:33 AM
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https://www.newsweek.com/california-governor-expected-close-all-beaches-parks-after-crowds-beachgoers-flout-social-1501096 Lmao, whoops
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 11:30 AM
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Upper middle class people have enough money that they don't lose their house. And both spouses work so you don't have the same "she took EVERYTHING" bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 11:29 AM
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Homie, the UMC don't lose "half their wealth" in a divorce because they marry someone of equal status!!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 11:27 AM
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Just Post It
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:54 PM
1

That is pretty gross
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:54 PM
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There are many many women who want to get married complaining that they can't find a "suitable" mate (suitable to them) or that they can only find guys who want to hookup/FB/FWB and don't want relationships. They are 100% telling on themselves that they are either fat or lower class (I'm shocked at how "country"/"urban"/"real America" PPD is honestly). UMC people get married, it's the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:44 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/09/14/as-u-s-marriage-rate-hovers-at-50-education-gap-in-marital-status-widens/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/579688/ The lower and lower-middle classes seem to be the only ones getting the message that marriage is a "raw deal". Rich, educated men don't seem to notice
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:41 PM
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Because class isn't only about money. Roughnecks striking it rich are still working class and follow the same norms. Of course those guys don't get married because who would they get married to? Some obese single mother who is a "small business owner" (sells Etsy junk), "goin' to school" (struggling to get an Associate's degree), and needs a REAL MAN for her kids? Actual UMC guys are marrying UMC women who have money, careers, and are in-shape and not dysfunctional.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:40 PM
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And in the US, marriage rates are still high among the rich and have dropped off among the poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:38 PM
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Rich men absolutely see a "point" in getting married because it's a status symbol. UMC and above are getting married like always. The drop in marriage rates is exclusively in people without college degrees
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:37 PM
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Lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:36 PM
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And richer, more educated people don't have kids out of wedlock or get divorced. That's an extremely bad look.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:34 PM
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No, they don't because they marry women of similar wealth and education.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:33 PM
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A woman who's not fat and not ugly is higher than a 3/10
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:24 PM
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Tbf most men don't really care to check out the competition. I have a pretty decent OLD profile, so I simply assume that other guys do as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 11:21 AM
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He's not actually doing that in practice though. California won't reopen for at least 6 months, probably 2-3 years if ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 11:15 AM
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Yes, there absolutely is a plan to control people. Orange and Ventura county are violating the state law, and Newsom could come down on them hard whenever he wants. That's the point, it's like the Patriot Act. It ain't ever going away, even if things ebb and flow. Anyway to get back on topic, this is going to be absolutely devastating for dating/sex/relationships. We've basically turned into Japan over night. Women are absolute followers, and a very significant number of 18-30 year old women wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 12:20 AM
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I think a lot of people (myself included) just don't see what the big hype about getting married is supposed to be about. Social proof and professional boost is a big one. Married men are viewed more favorably. Most people are a bit suspicious of an unmarried man who's older than 30-35.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 12:17 AM
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It's also the danger of marriage for men given the extremely high likelihood of divorce mostly initiated by women and the bias of family courts. Men don't want to sign up for having their children stolen from them The majority of custody cases are decided mutually without any court or mediation. Most men who ask for custody get it. Marriage does not make sense for most modern men Marriage provides a shit-ton of social and professional benefits. It also financially makes sense for most men unless…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 12:13 AM
2

but when my pell grant ass went to a fancy private college it was the trust fund chicks who were the sluttiest. That's because rich, dumb, slutty girls still get pushed to go to college by their parents. The poor thot-types never go to college in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 12:13 AM
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That's because most people are monogamous and settle down early as I've been saying. There's a stigma against getting married "too young", but most people are with their life partner by 22-24. The "hookup scene", and even the "dating" scene is very, very small once you get out of college, unless you live in one of maybe a dozen or so cities (and even in those cities, I mean the CITY, not some suburb 10 or 25 miles from downtown). Even in college it's more restricted here than a lot of people cla…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 12:10 AM
1

Why is no one throwing a fit? Orange county is huge,way more dense than Jacksonville!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 12:05 AM
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Whitmer Evers DeWine Newsom Inslee Cuomo Pritzker Wolf Brown Murphy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 11:45 PM
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Some beaches are reopened in CA. Bullshit. People were throwing a fit when Jacksonville, FL reopened their beaches. No way that CA did it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 11:44 PM
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People branch swing in marriages all the time. Why do you think Boomer divorce rates were so high?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 08:30 PM
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Nah, men actually prefer labels more than women. Men have to do most of the work, so they're more invested.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:41 PM
1

You could say that about marriage as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:19 PM
1

No, there's no fixed time, but its an agreement that people make. Dating fucking sucks, people don't want to do it but they also don't want to get entangled in a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:43 PM
3

It's "settling down" in the sense that those people will never date anyone else in their life
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:39 PM
1

Politicians absolutely want longer restrictions outside of a few conservatives
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:38 PM
1

You're not supposed to be out at parks. Why is it OK for you to go to a trail but not for people to skate or go to the beach? You're not supposed to be leaving your home except for work. No socializing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:36 PM
1

You live in a rural area where I assume people are being rational and reasonable. Big city libs are acting like it's the apocalypse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:35 PM
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Rigid boyfriend/girlfriend labels don't decrease options. They give people a sense of security and meaning. "Dating" is a fucking cesspool and most people just want to not do it without having to be alone or get married and have legal ties.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:25 PM
5

People don't get married as quickly any more though, mostly due to social pressure against early marriage. A 4-year relationship, even if they aren't married, is pretty damn serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:24 PM
0

Yes, they get married at 28 but started dating at 23-24
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:22 PM
0

Life is a zero sum game.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 01:29 PM
2

Lots are married in their early 20s, yes. But the norm is definitely to have met your spouse by the that age, which means that they are permanently off the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 12:39 PM
1

Zero. Going outside doesn't guarantee that you're going to get laid. And most guys who are spergs obsessed with gaming or porn addicts also lift weights, watch their diet, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 12:37 PM
0

I'm from a westernized culture, in my 20s. Most of the people I grew up with are married and popping out kids by 30, usually they stopped dating around by 23-24
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 12:27 PM
1

No, most guys wouldn't. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 12:26 PM
2

Yes, most people settle down at 22-24 and start popping out kids no later than 30 or so (some much sooner if they aren't middle class and don't care about marriage) People who are single/childless past their early 20s are that way by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 11:27 AM
6

Men are losing their jobs too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 11:24 AM
2

Lol at the type of guy that gets excited over $80k, especially in his late 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 11:20 AM
1

Don't argue for restrictions you don't follow (you don't follow the actual California order right now, and you're a healthcare worker ffs).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 11:07 AM
1

They aren't crippling the economy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 11:06 AM
2

but what makes you think that it isn't going away? For the same reason that the Patriot Act didn't go away. People aren't being particularly obedient as it is Yes, they are. Lots are begging for more because they think they're gonna get paid to be NEETs forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 09:47 PM
1

Scientists aren't legislators. They can advise and give recommendations, but it's not smart to blindly listen to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 09:46 PM
0

lmao, they aren't gonna loosen restrictions until a vaccine is found, which is likely to be never.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 08:17 PM
4

We're a week or two past the peak in most of the US, and states are tightening restrictions
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:34 PM
2

You aren't supposed to be visiting other people in California or going outside. You violated the orders, yet you support them. Hopefully you don't live in LA or the mayor is going to hunt you down.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:26 PM
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There's definitely a huge perception gap based on where you live. I think a lot of the people who think that reopening is right around the corner live in conservative and/or suburban/rural areas where people never took quarantine seriously or wanted it to happen. The mood on the ground is very different in the big liberal cities where people are fully on-board and demand more. The perspective of someone who lives in Georgia vs NYC is very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:23 PM
6

Liberals are psychotic. They will voluntarily hole themselves up forever if CNN says so, and they will make a massive show of moaning about loosening restrictions. The bad news for dating is that most women are liberals, especially single women. The bars might open, but it will be a sausage fest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:18 PM
4

It's going to be hilarious when the big blue states completely collapse and people beg for it to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:15 PM
2

Garcetti needs to be removed in a coup and tried at the Hauge. Absolute psychopath
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:14 PM
2

The mayor of LA is "joking" about hunting people down. Restrictions aren't ever going away in California lmao. As soon as people start trying to go out of their house, there's gonna be some examples made and people will fall right back in line. Dating is going to be a mail order process, if it ever happens at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 05:44 PM
3

All's fair in love and war.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 05:35 PM
0

Lucky you. Lots of America is going to be locked down forever
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:59 PM
3

Because they've decided that the risk is low, and they have an appropriate level of skepticism about it only being "two weeks", "a month" "a couple months" (i.e. they know it's going to be forever)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:50 PM
3

Yeah because they know that life has an end point, and they want to fucking enjoy their lives. It's reflective of what's wrong with the modern "dating market". A lot of people end up alone because they are constantly worried about minor flaws or missing out on something better.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:24 PM
2

Oh, so you've been blatantly breaking quarantine? The economy is not shut down. Social interaction is shut down, at least officially. The current plan is to yes, basically end dating/socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:21 PM
1

If that were actually true, women wouldn't be moral scolds about people wanting to meet up in person at a park or for a walk or something during quarantine. There is no correction going on. Dating/relationships are basically frozen to where they were in March 2020, and they will likely never change.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:09 PM
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No, it doesn't. And factories are still running. The vast, vast majority of productive businesses are not shutdown. You just get shamed if you want to do anything besides consoom in your NEET cave. Dating and relationships are basically over because unless you're gonna risk arrest for breaking quarantine, you simply can't meet people in person that you don't already live with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:07 PM
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Yes, they can. Social distancing is GREAT for capitalism. Stores are still open, Amazon is still open, etc. But now there's a large "reserve army of labor" i.e. desperate workers To get back on topic, social distancing also hyperaccelerates alienation. Alienated, sad people without relationships spend more money on junk.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 03:04 PM
1

Young people are far more susceptible to fear/not understanding risk/trust "experts" blindly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:49 PM
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A vaccine might not be possible. And there will always be an excuse about why we need to maintain draconian restrictions and a tattletale culture. Just like what happened after 9/11
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:44 PM
1

It's not a nothingburger because petty tyrants in state/local government are salivating over the power that it lets the wield.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:34 PM
1

You're hopelessly optimistic. Most people are born followers and will stay celabite and isolated until they are told it's "safe" by the rightful authorities. People aren't going to be sneaking around, especially given that they're friends and family will call them selfish monsters for leaving the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:32 PM
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Young people are the ones that care. Old people don't give a fuck and are the ones protesting to get to go back to the mall.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:30 PM
5

Texas isn't full of dumb babies or liberal mayors/governors getting to live out their fantasy of technocratic authoritarianism. A lot of people in the big coastal states are whipped into an absolute frenzy and will be scared to interact with anyone they don't live with for at least 2 years
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:28 PM
2

The restrictions are never going away. You're never going to be allowed to go outside freely again lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:27 PM
1

Married men are treated better by society. Being in a relationship is cheaper than being single
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 11:27 AM
1

Social proof. It's harder for single people to succeed, and married/relationship people get special privileges
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 11:27 AM
4

The blackpill/TRP guys here have troubling understanding the "half your age plus 7" rule and end up embarssing themselves/prooving women correct way too often.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 10:34 PM
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I agree with you, but it highlights some contradictions in OPs post. A "late 20s" guy hitting on an "early 20s" woman is NBD (i.e. a guy who's 27-29 going after a girl who's 21-23). A guy in his 30s or !40s! hitting on teenagers is a fucking predator. A guy past 35 hitting on women below their mid-20s is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 10:23 PM
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That's incredibly common on PPD. I'm a guy who's disgustingly horny and desperate all the time, but that doesn't mean that I'd "fuck any hole" or do stupid shit to get laid. These guys tell on themselves all the fucking time when they make up these stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 10:02 PM
2

Thanks for yours :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 09:33 PM
5

Yeah, it does. Some tats are terrible, some are neutral, some look good. Some aren't even noticeable - I've dated girls who only had very small, inconspicuous ones that actually meant something to them, not some random ugly cartoon. Tattoos aren't bumper stickers and women aren't cars, hth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 09:20 PM
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Tattoos aren't automatic pump and dump. Most of the time they aren't completley dumb like a cheese grater.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 08:44 PM
3

You're building an insane strawwoman to try to justify some bitterness about women you have. Almost any woman who "rode the cock carousel" in her late teens/early 20s fucked some guys who were a little too old. Odds are any woman who has a hangup about her 32-year-old boyfriend chasing 21-year-olds either had a bad experience when she was 20, or never actually "rode the cock carousel"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 08:35 PM
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You're repulsed by men how old? 28 or 38 or 48? You probably can barely tell the difference between a guy in his late 20s and a guy exactly the same age as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 08:32 PM
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This proves to me that women are not as horny as guys because as a healthy decently good looking 25 year old male, if any women that is not extremely ugly and I mean extremely and doesn't have any physical deformities approached me in the street and asked for sex, I would accept her offer in a split second with no hesitation, and all of my male friends and associates agreed with me. That's because you're so horny that it clouds your judgment OR you have been taught by gender roles that "real men…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 08:29 PM
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I don't know if you read my other post but if he even tries to have sex I will next him. That's extremely unusual, and it's a great way to end up with guys who have low libidos, are closet cases, or just plain weird/repressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:34 PM
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If you have a 3-month rule, you have to be upfront about that. Experienced men learn that most women expect a man who's interested in them to try to initiate sex within a couple of dates. If you turn a man down for sex without explanation, he's going to assume you don't like him and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 12:03 PM
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"Average" guys in their 20s and 30s rarely, if ever, go a year without sex outside of special circumstances (getting deployed for the military or a work assignment, some sort of crisis, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 12:01 PM
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UMC folxks are the ones who complain about dating the most. Working class/middle class folkxcs just sleep around as teens and pop out kids/get married at 23.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:54 AM
2

That advice is 50% OK, 50% absolutely trash. lmbo at the idea that "seducing a 9 is different from seducing a 5" (you don't have to seduce plainer girls), or "women would rather fuck an ugly guy with strong ~frame~ than a handsome guy with a weak one" (handsome guys are assumed to have a "strong frame" right off of the bat), "standards are a myth" (i.e. the author fucks fatties and disgusting women and thinks he's a playboy), or the entire paragraph for number 7 (lmfao, if you approach a woman a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:50 AM
1

TRP is not what the "red pill" was (it's a shadow of what it was in the early 2010s, and there were a lot of weird LARPers like Matt Forney even back then), and lots of TRPers have a delusional view of how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:48 AM
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You're a "gymcel". Women don't care about being men being shredded because it makes you look vain and obssesed. Think rugby player or swimmer if you lift for women. Your height has nothing to do with it, and you need to stop being bitter about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:35 AM
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and it was nothing to do with having glutes and shoulders. Not all men need to work out to have glutes and shoulders that make women swoon, though. Obviously it helps, but most of your shoulder width is based on frame, and your glutes are genetic to an extent (whether you have a bubble butt or a Hank Hill ass)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:33 AM
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If men want to get laid, thei have to make an effort to look sexy. Visit any frat house and you'll see that's not the case. You have to be "not insanely fat"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:30 AM
1

Mothers can actually be a great source of alpha game, in a way. It's an old trope that mothers don't think any of the young sluts that her son gets involved with are good enough for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 10:43 PM
1

lmao, that's not what everyone looked like. You sound like the blackpill guys who claim that you need to look like a Youtube fitness personality to get laid. Edit: Plenty of guys in this video, this video, this video don't have abs, and they definitely got laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 10:35 PM
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They weren't expected to be that, that was ideal. Average was slightly less sharp, but still fairly lean. Check out videos from the 80s like this one. Plenty of those guys are over 12% bf. You just have no fucking idea what bodyfat percentages actually look like (obvious since you thought that 15% for women was ever considered "fat"). We've gotten more extreme since then. The average underwear model or somebody like Rocky was less cut + big than the average Youtube fitness model today, but the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 09:49 PM
2

lmao, Jennifer Lopez is what the original meaning of "thick" was.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 06:29 PM
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A small waist isn't fat, though. And a small waist, wide hips has been considered attractive throughout human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 06:28 PM
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A better statement would be that women come across as more polite than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 06:26 PM
3

The problem with volunteering is that the type of woman who gets very involved in volunteering is also likely to make the average blackpill or TRP guy think "this woman will falsely accuse me of rape if I talk to her". Not saying that she will, but the type of guy who complains about "can't meet women anywhere" is also hyper-aware of ending up on a Google doc of "shitty volunteer bros".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 06:23 PM
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Most people (male and female) 18-24 don’t want to settle down Bullshit. Most people are settled down by 22-24, even if they "weren't ready" yet. The reason why people over-glorify the 18-24 age range is because that's the only time when the vast, vast majority of people are participating in the "dating market". People who are single past 25+ are less and less likely to be people who you'd ever settle down with (either because they have baggage, or they simply aren't the marrying kind and never w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 06:19 PM
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People in their 30s and 40s take better care of themselves than people here like to assume/bitch about. The people who fall apart in their 30s are people who already looked like shit and didn't bother with fitness, fashion, diet, etc. in their 20s for the most part. You can get away with that for a bit when you're young, but not really. People who were semi-conscious about that stuff in their 20s don't stop being conscious in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 06:17 PM
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Anything over 12% for men, and 15% for women, would have been called fat 30 years ago. LOL, 15% bodyfat for women is like a bikini-competitor or someone who's anorexic. Normal healthy, before everyone got massive, is around 12-18% for men and 18-25% for women. "Fat" would have been more like 22%+ bf for men and 35%+ for women. For a vague reference. For men, 15% is "normal" and 20% is "schlubby/fat border". For women, 15% is damn skinny, and 25% is borderline chubby.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 04:31 PM
1

A lot of people have been sick and unhealthy for a very long time, which means that it takes a long time to get back to a set point. Also, a lot of people who lose weight and gain it back lose weight by simply eating a smaller amount of the same crap they were eating before. That creates a calorie deficit, but it doesn't necessarily correct a lot of the nutrient imbalances that fucked up their health in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 04:29 PM
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No, by normal I mean "BMI under 25".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 02:51 PM
1

Cardi isn't even thick or fat, though. She's fairly slim, and her ass and tits are obviously fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 01:34 PM
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Yeah, she's fat. Not unattractive, but borderline. Skinny doesn't mean skeletal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 01:32 PM
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Female artists get popular for reasons other than being hot It's also because men most don't know the difference between being thicc and being fat. Yes they do. The reality is that that being fat is the norm in a lot of America. ~50% of young men and women are overweight or obese, and if you live outside of SWPL land, you aren't white or Asian, or you don't hang around college grads, the numbers are higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 12:40 PM
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There will be millions of marriages over COVID-19 because a lot of people realize they'll never be able to meet new people again. Very few breakups imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 12:35 PM
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It's obviously going to make people much more conservative in their dating habits. You can't go out and meet new people, probably ever again. If you don't have any money, you can't really date around either (being in a couple is much, much cheaper than being single). A shit ton of people are going to get married after this, and divorce rates are going to plummet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 12:30 PM
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Yeah he is. Most people don't try for very long, or they are so, so fat that they don't realize how long that it takes for them to get back to normal. ~40% of American adults are obese. If you're obese, you have to lose 20+% of your bodyweight to be at a "normal" weight, around 40-60 or more pounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 12:18 PM
1

Did he have a baby face? Was he a generally gentle, carefree guy? I never got any unusual treatment as a short guy, but I also have a "pissed-off" demeanor and was more on the handsome side vs baby face.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 12:14 PM
2

Survey data does not support that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 12:12 PM
1

Lol. Married people have way more sex than single people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 07:31 PM
2

In the sense that "addiction" to either one isn't real? Porn addiction is really rare, and almost all men that watch porn can distinguish porn from reality, lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 06:25 PM
2

Women don't want a man who wants commitment. They want to win him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 06:19 PM
2

It's mutual, but the women brings up the topic. A man who wants commitment looks like a loser
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 06:11 PM
4

L O L
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 06:11 PM
3

No, they don't. Sex addicts and ugly men fuck ugly women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 05:54 PM
2

Because you commit to people you trust. If you both agree to commit, then you stop fucking other people. Before that happens, there's no guarantees and men have to stay sharp. Women decide when commitment happens, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 05:51 PM
2

Men have harems because women are very picky and flakey in relationships. Why would a man commit to any woman when she's likely to leave at any time without warning?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 05:25 PM
1

Yes, have you seen a tight dress or old style jeans?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 05:21 PM
1

Why is online dating 60-70% male if it's so great for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 03:23 PM
1

Yes, though for me it was my mother and grandmother saying that even louder
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 02:05 PM
1

The real blue pill is usually on the relationships sub Yeah, blue pill is Reddit normal. In real life, the way that most people are raised and taught is far, far closer to the red pill (maybe without some of the nastiest parts)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:45 PM
1

No. Red Pill is the norm, and it's how people have taught their sons to act for thousands of years
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:44 PM
1

You can see the shape of their ass through a lot of women's clothing today You could see the shape of women's asses in older style clothes too. Clothing has always had that element to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:26 PM
1

Women get bored if you don't fuck after 3-4 dates
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 11:58 AM
2

Most girls can get a guy to pretend to be a boyfriend for like a week until he gets bored. Most single women do not want a boyfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 11:57 AM
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But if your looks didn't catch his eye - forget about it, your achievements mean nothing Men and women both approach dating like this. They absolutely know within DAYS if you are the one. Mostly because of looks. I can be a total bitch, they still chase. Men know within days because they take the active role. We have to learn how to filter out women quickly and only focus on the ones that seem promising. Yeah, looks obviously matter, but you can usually judge someone's personality pretty quickly…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 11:39 AM
2

Why do you think studies show that men are more likely to fall in love at first sight? Because men take a more active role in dating, which means that they are more invested
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 11:34 AM
1

Men absolutely care about a woman's personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 11:33 AM
2

Women don't care about a man's money, the vast majority of a time. Women choose Billy Beta because they want comfort. Most women fuck Chad once or twice, or just watch their friend get "pumped and dumped" and don't bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 11:29 AM
2

If that were actually true, OLD wouldn't be 60-70% men and women wouldn't complain so much about how men misbehave on OLD Riddle me this: If women can easily get to bang a male model on Tinder even if they're a disgusting hog, why is Tinder 70% men? Wouldn't women be desperate to join if they thought they could snag Chad and join his harem?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 08:46 PM
0

I'm 5'6, maybe a 6.5-7/10 face and body, very bad social rapport (a weird cluster A guy), and I still manage to fuck 3-4 new women a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 08:37 PM
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Anecdotally, I'm 25, and the vast majority of guys my age that I know are either: Married, engaged, or in a stable LTR Get laid fairly regularly. Some mix of OLD and meeting girls in person. Not constantly, but at least a couple new women a year A minority struggle to get laid, but they all have something clearly holding them back (mental issues, trauma, extremely overweight, live with parents)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 08:35 PM
1

Why do you care who uggos fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 04:40 PM
4

See my other post about the paradox of choice. Being flooded with options often makes people choose none because they're too afraid of picking wrong. More importantly, what kind of woman gushes because "oh my God, he slid in my DMs and it was so romantic 😍" None of them And women do choose "Billy beta" all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 04:39 PM
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No, but hitting on a woman on an app is less likely to result in success vs IRL. Also, are you familiar with the paradox of choice? Women being flooded with attention on apps actually makes them more likely to give up and not pick any men because they are so overwhelmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 04:37 PM
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This means that 25,000 women are sharing 10,000 men. In other words, a de facto harem exists in the casual sex market. No, it doesn't Single means not married. Plenty of "single" people on a survey are in a monogamous relationship Your stats are only for the 18-24 year old group. A 24 year old in an LTR with her 25 year old boyfriend would skew the numbers. We know that women tend to date men 0-3 years older, sometimes far more than that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 04:36 PM
1

How is that possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 04:32 PM
1

Sex drive doesn't necessarily correlate to n count. There's a lot of promiscuous people with average sex drives, and a lot of people who are absolutely ravenous that met someone early and got married. How do you think those religious people have 8 kids? They have healthy sex drives for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 04:31 PM
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Bitter TRP/blackpill guys vastly overestimate how promiscuous people are in general. Sleeping with 5 different women in a year is top 5% for men in their 20s, call it top 10% if you only count guys not in a serious LTR. That's one new girl every 10 weeks, hardly slaying constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 04:26 PM
2

How so? Men benefit from a committed relationship far, far more than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 04:23 PM
1

And last question, are there men who can get casual sex but can't get commitment ? Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 04:22 PM
1

Women don't actually respond well to "assholish" behavior. Men who claim this just confuse "asshole" with "having a spine"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 04:18 PM
2

How is that possible? OLD doesn't change the overall gender ratio. It doesn't really have an effect on geographic proximity (you're still swiping based on your location)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 04:11 PM
3

No, you see, Tinder is loaded with Chad's who spend every moment of their free time ordering sex to their doorstep while most men have to masturbate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 04:10 PM
1

Chad doesn't fuck uggos off of Tinder. He might once in a while if it's no effort, but Chad can get enough hot girls lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 04:07 PM
3

This doesn't actually happen though. If every ugly Betty is on Tinder chasing Chad, why are 70+% of Tinder users male? prefers getting pumped and dumped by them than have a relationship with the ugly/beta guy No, she doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 04:06 PM
2

Yeah, they both identify as "feminist", but they aren't the same people
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 04:04 PM
2

No feminist would say that though. Feminists who are sex positive don't expect a transaction from sex, and if they are sex negative they don't want anything monetary from a man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 03:00 PM
1

No, I'm a man
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 01:28 PM
1

You say that it's appropriate to lift restrictions, but also that it's a Trump plot. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 01:27 PM
1

You realize that the people protesting are asking for what you want, not for everything to come roaring back, right? People want to experiment with lifting restrictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 01:15 PM
1

No, it's not. Tennis courts are supposed to close under strict social distancing/stay at home orders.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 01:11 PM
1

It's going to be the only form of relationship available in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 01:10 PM
1

Lmao, plenty of women message first who aren't bots. They're usually not the most attractive women, but they're real.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 01:09 PM
2

It's doable for you to do something you like (going to the dog park) with precautions, but not for others to do what they like (such as "beach retards") with precautions. Very reasonable. Other than seeing a few friends I could be on shut down for months as long as I had a job and not be bothered. Other than violating quarantine for things you want to do, you could be on lockdown for months. I completely agree with you fwiw, I just don't like that I have to break the law to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 01:05 PM
1

No, you're projecting. Most single men don't have trouble getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 01:04 PM
2

People who want to go to the beach are dumb, but you're wise for wanting to go to the dog park?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 12:16 PM
1

What does "Presidential" even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 12:13 PM
2

"most" aren't lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 12:12 PM
1

Nah, I think divorces are going to be way, way down because it will be too risky to be on your own. There will definitely not be a baby boom. Birth dates are going to absolutely crater in about a year, and they'll be down to zero within 5 or 6 years imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 12:10 PM
1

Women want none of those things
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 11:25 AM
0

It has nothing to do with Fox News. I'm a left-wing guy, and the amount of leftists virtual signalling and absolutely begging for the state governors to order people to be babies is seriously depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 11:23 AM
2

Liberals don't go to night clubs. They're just babies who throw fits over people doing anything but being good pod people in their nests. Conservatives don't get anxious over going to the beach or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 11:14 AM
-1

Because liberals have convinced themselves to be anxious and hole up indefinitely. Conservatives don't give a fuck and have lower levels of neuroticism and anxiety to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 11:13 AM
5

like seriously. wtf kind of girl thinks it's IMPRESSIVE that she's a whore. Lots of women are whores
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 12:45 AM
77

No. It's affecting liberals more than conservatives, extroverts more than introverts, and single people more than people who are married or in an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 12:44 AM
1

My mother is the most one of the biggest misogynists I've ever met, and honestly, she'd be at home on a Red Pill message board. Nothing quite like the experience of your mother screaming "LOOK churnthrowaway123456 WHORES" when she sees some girls walking down the sidewalk in crop-tops and shorts as your parents give you and a friend a ride on your college campus. We've fought a lot over the years (mainly because we have similar personalities), but overall, I'd say that I have a positive relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:39 PM
1

You'd be surprised. Lots of online weird girls out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 06:03 PM
1

Some are lying, some are exaggerating. A small number are telling the truth, but the type of guy who fucks hot, younger women is either ballin' or he was a Chad in his youth as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 06:02 PM
1

Every type is arousing, that's my point. What men in those positions chose to do determines the differences in how they date/marry/sleep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 06:01 PM
1

A preacher is a much an entertainer as a small business owner, but it's still a "conservative" line of work. Any sort of power or status is attractive for a man, it's just some lines of work attract men who are more likely to take advantage of that status ("high sociosexual orientation" is what the spergs might call it)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 03:42 PM
1

The acceptable age gap increases the older you are, though. I'd bet a lot of those "man 10 to 14 years older" marriages are second marriages who met when the woman was in her late 30s or 40s. Huge difference between a 50 year old dating a 38 year old and a 32 year old dating a 20 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 03:39 PM
1

It's pretty uncommon, yes. And the women who do it are not the most attractive or stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 03:37 PM
4

You asked if it was supposed to work for men. Some women are impressed when a guy talks about his conquests, and those same women like to brag about it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 03:36 PM
2

Why do men in here talk about a women wanting to be in a relationship with you as if it’s a bad thing? They have this very boomer-hack comedian idea of a "relationship" where it really just means "man gives woman all his money and time". The concept of give and take, or the concept of the woman actually offering something to the man (besides sex) completley escapes them. They're self-hating simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 03:35 PM
1

N-count has almost no relationship to how "good at sex" somebody is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 03:33 PM
2

If AWALT, why are you so worried about dating a slut or a carousel rider or whatever?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 03:32 PM
1

Most of the guys who complain about not being able to get a relationship or casual sex aren't physically undesirable. They either: Live in an extremely male dominated environment and they're simply aren't that many women around. Have weird hangups which get made worse by spending too much time online Too many of these guys read generic advice or go off of national, widespread stats and never stop to think about the fact that if you're in a place that's 60-70% male and you never interact with peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 03:26 PM
4

Not all women agree with you. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 03:22 PM
3

Compare that with men who have small time business or political status (small business owners, managers at a less known company, local politicians), such guys have very average, sitcom dad romantic experiences, which means their business /political status just made them better betas. You know what's different about small business owners and local politicians vs. entertainers? They are a self-selected group of people who tend towards monogamy and a stable life. There are a ton of preachers out th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 03:15 PM
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Women are eager to try to impress a man they like, and some of them think that talking about being promiscuous is supposed to impress us (it's like you're "winning a prize" because she's with you)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 03:11 PM
-1

Yes, it is. Talk to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 02:18 PM
1

So she gets to be in poverty for the rest of her life if her husband decides to leave? Or if things don't work out? It's not half of "your shit" that you give up when you have a stay at home wife and kids. It's half of the marriage's assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 02:18 PM
1

Women don't give a shit about muscle
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 02:15 PM
9

No, he chose to have kids and agreed that he would be OK with her staying home
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:56 PM
5

He's not "fucked". Women who stay home sacrifice potential income. If it's a problem, don't have kids with a woman who wants to quit working
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:39 PM
5

Because it's creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:38 PM
0

Your friends aren't the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:38 PM
-1

In that case, any white boy with a college degree who isn't a complete slob is guaranteed to be a 6-7+/10 simply because the women he dates are generally going to be not fat and decent looking. Population averages mean nothing for dating because people don't date literally anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:34 PM
1

Do you not understand majority? Over 53% of marriages have a husband 2-3 years older or a husband wife within 1 year in age. (20.4 +33.2) That's a majority Over 10% have the wife 2+ years older! Over 2/3 of marriages have a husband who is less than 3 years older than his wife. For first marriages, I'd bet it's even higher (i.e. a lot of "marriages" are remarriages where people met at an older age where being 5 years apart isn't as big of a deal) 2-3 years older for the man is the practical limit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:30 PM
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Why would you approach a young woman for directions when there's other people around? That's extremely creepy and predatory behavior, and they can see right through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 12:03 PM
2

She's a bit fatter than average, though
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 12:02 PM
1

Most 20-something women are not overweight or obese. Especially if you're white and middle-class or above
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 12:00 PM
1

Most men are RP savvy. They either learned it from their dad or uncles or brothers, or they read it on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 11:56 AM
1

And men don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 11:54 AM
1

Casual hook ups are way easier and take much less effort than getting a girlfriend lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 11:50 AM
0

No, they aren't. Most younger women are not interested in some 30 year old creep
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 11:48 AM
2

It's the latter. Incel/TRP types have this insane paranoia that they're going to be "stuck" with a party girl and don't realize that all the sorostitutes just tag one of their regular hookups, not some random chump.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 11:48 AM
2

You'll notice that a majority have a husband who is 2-3 or fewer years older!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 11:45 AM
1

Damn, I thought you were actually elite, not Midwest trash
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 11:44 AM
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But an up and coming dude who's just starting out in the financial ladder can't afford to lose half his shit to some brainwashed "progressive" woman who was made to believe divorce is a form of "empowerment." fuck that. This doesn't add up or exist, though. Most "progressive" women have their own money and contribute. "Take half your shit" only applies if you marry a woman with no income
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 11:38 AM
1

This needs to be stickied on every post: OKCupid is N O T real life. It's even less "real life" than Tinder because the OKCupid base is very weird ("reddit-esque" is another way I would describe it). At least Tinder has normies, just a skewed sex ratio. The men and women on OKCupid do not, in any way represent a normal dating "market" Most men do not prefer younger women. It makes us look like creeps Men and women both roughly prefer to be the same age, maybe the man is 1-2 years older (and that…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 11:32 AM
2

Deranged, damaged girls like older men. That's probably why TRP is so concerned with the issues they're concerned with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 11:30 AM
1

Yes, but the standards are higher and there's fewer available women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 11:26 AM
2

35 is way too old for a 26-27 year old when payment isn't involved. Normal people find that a bit disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 11:25 AM
1

I've looked like a mid-20s guy from age 18-19 to present at age 26. That's probably why my experience is so different from what a lot of TRPers claim - I never really had that "baby face" phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:45 PM
2

It's kind of like height. Most women's standard is "taller than me" and "not a virgin" (and being a virgin is OK up until about age 22-23). Being shorter than average or having a lower n-count than average isn't a problem as long as you meet those 2 requirements. Women fill in the blanks (aka make something up without asking) about your n-count based on their ~female intuition~ anyway. If she thinks you're attractive and you come across as confident/knowledgable, she'll assume that you have a go…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:41 PM
3

Where else would people be having casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:39 PM
1

Most 19 year old women would be creeped the fuck out by a 35 year old hitting on them, even if he looks younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:38 PM
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Key word is a little older. 2-3 years, not 5-10 or even more
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:36 PM
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A man who is the same age or 1-2 years old than a woman doesn't have "neoteny". 21 year old men don't all look like kids, there's guys who can grow full beards at 17-18 lmao (I'm one, my dad's one, some of my friends are ones)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:35 PM
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No, they don't. Most women like men the most who are their age or 1-2 years older.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 07:58 PM
1

It's not appropriate to say "Hey you look beautiful/Hey I love that book you're reading, I'd love to talk to you more if you'd like", then leave your number with her and let her call you back later? That is extremely inappropriate. My skin is crawling just reading that. That doesn't seem like a terribly bad thing to do. What am I missing? You're harassing a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 07:58 PM
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Either way, the immature/impulsive 30 year olds are much easier to spot. :) No, they aren't. A lot of women naively assume that 30 year old men are inherently more mature and get burned. Kinda like when they assume tall, handsome guys have big dicks or are confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 07:57 PM
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Most 30 year guys aren’t going to come home with a face tattoo and some harebrained plan to trek across the country as a life coach, lol. 30 year old guys who are single are far more likely to do this than 23-24 year old single guys though. Being single at 30 is more deviant (as in deviating from norms) than being single at 23 is. The average 30 year old is more responsible, but the average 30 year old is also married or in an LTR already. The guys who are 30 and single are disproportionately in…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 07:15 PM
6

Average 30 year old women aren't old hags. Any woman who's hot at 21 will still most likely be hot at 30
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 07:13 PM
3

How much younger? 2-3 years younger is doable, always. Dating 10+ years younger when you're a 35+ year old man? Not possible without payment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 07:10 PM
1

Cold approaching in any public venue is fine, whether at a bar or at the store or on the bus. No, it's not. That's how sexual predators think. It is not appropriate to cold approach on a bus or at the store
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 07:08 PM
2

No, I'm willing to wait because I want to be with her long-term. I still want and try to fuck her on the first date. I have in fact fucked girls I had strong, "want a relationship" feelings for on the first date. I wait if she turns down sex, I still go for it instead of dumping her is what I'm saying I'm not willing to wait with the "just sex" women because it would be a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 07:04 PM
5

Most college educated 20-somethings have an active hobby. Everyone plays sports, goes to the gym, goes hiking/biking/skiing/kayaking, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 07:00 PM
3

Women under 25 absolutely think that 29-30 is too old.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 06:59 PM
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Ding, ding, ding. RP men think early 30s are "prime" for men because they get approached by damaged goods. 18-22 is actually prime time for men to date because they have the most options for quality women to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 06:57 PM
1

18-22
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 06:54 PM
3

But GENERALLY men first just want to fuck and then they may realize they actually really like her That's wrong, though. Sex is independent of whether I want a girl for something more. I'm always trying to fuck as soon as possible. The difference is how much effort/chase I put in and how long I'm willing to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 06:29 PM
2

It's not Madonna/whore. I still want to fuck a girl who's "relationship material" as soon as possible. It's about the ~spark~. Some women, even if they're nice and I'm sexually attracted to them, I don't see relationship potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 04:35 PM
1

LMAO, I've slept with 5 women in the past 12 months, actually more like 9 months
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 12:58 PM
1

He means that it's more common "uptown" (he's saying black)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 12:09 PM
2

They were put on the sex offenderist for being sexual predators. Approaching women in public is fine if you're in an appropriate venue. Cold approaching someone at a bar is different from at the store or on the bus.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 12:07 PM
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men generally don't see a difference between just fucking and a relationship at the start of a relationship Completely false. I know pretty much immediately if a girl is "only sex" or "relationship material"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:52 AM
6

How did you not figure that out yet? Why do you think they spend so much time bitching about single mothers and obesity?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:46 AM
2

Average lifetime body count is 7 because most men have zero desire to live the "get laid" lifestyle. They choose to settle down or stick with LTRS. Note that I'm also the guy who claims that normal people are off the market by 24.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:37 AM
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He's not, but that doesn't mean he can't. 10 is high-end, but I said 5-10. 6 women a year is a new one every 2 months. An average guy who puts in effort (uses dating apps, goes out 1-2 times a week to meet women, lives in a place with single women/a dating culture) can meet a new woman roughly every 2 months, if that's his priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:34 AM
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Average lifetime body count for a man is 7 because most men don't want to sleep around that much. Go back and read carefully. Most men can sleep with 5-10 women a year if they put in effort, make that a priority, and don't find a single girl that they want to commit to. Most guys don't work like that. They end up in an LTR sooner or later because chasing tail gets exhausting after a while
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:33 AM
1

They are much thirstier than thinner women I.m.e.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:01 PM
1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:01 PM
2

Damn son, stop bogarting and let me get a hit of that shit!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:11 PM
2

FYI, meek, "nice" guys are way more likely to be porn addicts. And most incels look like normal guys. More importantly, everybody has flaws. That's part of dating. You don't have to accept them, but you have to compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:04 PM
2

90% of the time if a guy is struggling to get sex, it’s his looks/height. That's absolutely bullshit. Location or social skills are the issue 99% of the time The sexiest guy on Earth will still struggle with dating if he's in Alaska. Weird, ugly spergs get laid all the time in NYC. Loners struggle with dating unless they're attractive and can use apps/shamelessly flirt when they go out. People with large social circles can almost always find a date/gf, or casual sex if that's their crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:45 PM
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This is correct. A lot of blackpill types confuse how top 1-2% men with the "top 20%", and "top 20%" is really more like "above average" Half of men, roughly, can sleep with 5-10 women per year if they put in effort and they don't choose to settle with anyone. They might sleep with 2-3 new women if they don't really try but still have an active social life, or if they're more of the serial dating type
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:38 PM
3

Nothing. Red Pill is mainstream. It's just a repackaging of "wisdom" that's been around for decades. Now that TRP is 10+ years old and everyone is online, even the specific language is pretty mainstream
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:33 PM
1

Why did you need the ~red pill~ in the first place if you're fucking fatties?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:31 PM
1

Not all women understand that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:31 PM
1

They don't necessarily get vulgar.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:06 PM
1

Nah, women love to brag when they are attracted to a man ("qualifying"), and some women think that bragging about their sexual exploits is impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:39 PM
3

Porn addiction is extremely common, it's not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:30 PM
1

Next time, after you set a date, shut the fuck up until the date! Leave on a high note.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:26 PM
6

No, proto-incels just get triggered by them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:22 PM
0

Getting laid for the sake of getting laid doesn't matter, though. Fucking a fatty (or someone you're not attracted to) is worse than not fucking
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:20 PM
6

"Signs of alcohol/drug abuse", "Materialist", and "Pets" are questionable (a lot of hot women drink like fishes and do drugs), but this is the best list
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:19 PM
2

Logic and reasoning skills doesn't mean that you're a STEMlord or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:18 PM
-3

That's not possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 08:56 PM
1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 08:55 PM
1

Property is theft
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 08:53 PM
0

Owning property is not "earning" a living hth
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 06:46 PM
1

You're insane if you think that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 06:45 PM
2

No, but old guys frequently don't get as hard and they aren't at their peak length. Your dick size can vary with erection strength
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 01:46 PM
3

The average is 6-6.5 for healthy young men. The 5.5 number is from clinical studies, which include a lot of fat or old or unhealthy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 11:24 AM
5

You cannot eyeball inches. You're describing "girl inches" lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 11:22 AM
2

"Hooking up" is a very vague phrase, on purpose. It does not always mean "one night stand". It certainly doesn't usually mean "getting Eifel towered at a party"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 11:17 AM
0

Living off of other people's paychecks isn't "earning it"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 11:11 AM
2

Anarchism is mostly left-wing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 08:24 PM
-1

People who really care about politics tend to not get laid as easily. That applies to Leftists, neoliberals, and Right-Wingers. The guys that cry about wanting other people's property without consent or earning it, are the same that cry about not being able to get pussy. Landlords cry about not getting pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 08:09 PM
1

They're depressed and they latch onto one flaw to explain their lack of dating success.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 08:08 PM
2

I'm a man btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 07:26 PM
2

How? Getting someone to do things for you is dominance. It makes you the boss.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 04:36 PM
1

And rural women are fatter, less attractive, less successful, etc. on average (at least the single ones). There's a heavy selection bias because most of the "successdaughter" careers are heavily tied to cities, especially very large, elite cities. Anecdotally, women are less likely to be willing to move to an isolated, unknown place. Male-dominated "successful" careers are a bit more widespread. Some are ultra urban, some are ultra rural, many are mixed. Rural brain drain applies to women more t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:39 PM
0

I know a lot of rural guys who love to golf as well (it's cheap when there's land everywhere), but pretty much. Those city (and let's be honest, white, educated) guys don't trip over the "obesity epidemic" or "single mothers" or have as much trouble meeting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:32 PM
2

The vast majority of single mothers were in a monogamous relationship with the father when they had the baby. Most women who sleep around and party are on birth contol and would get an abortion rather than have a baby by some random, jfl
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:27 PM
2

There's been a massive increase in incels. RP has been dead for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:17 PM
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I've only ever lived in rural areas and large cities, so I can't speak on the suburbs really. It's more that a lot of the tropes that people complain about on here, and what they consider to be the "average" man/woman is heavily skewed. Being Obese/overweight is nowhere near "average" for me for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:14 PM
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"Waiting for marriage" is not, and has never been the norm. Only absolute weirdos, or people in very tight religious communities, are strict about no sex before marriage. In those latter communities, people get married very young, like 18-20 for the women. Celibacy into your 20s is very, very much not a historical norm. Humans love to fuck. Pre birth-control, it's estimated that 30-40% of brides were pregnant on their wedding days based on historical records. Every God damn city on Earth has a j…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:11 PM
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Everyone bonds more to their first love than their 75th. It’s common sense No, it's not
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:07 PM
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Very few Woman are truly dominant in that way, or desire to actually be like that. Bullshit, the vast majority of women are dominant. Wanting someone else to provide for you, to make the decisions, to take the lead, is dominating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:04 PM
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Yes. Most women are naturally dominant and want submissive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:03 PM
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I live in a rural area Yes, that's what I was getting at. I grew up in a place like that. The "dating market" and the sociological aspects are very different in a world where men spend a lot of money on "big boy toys".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:01 PM
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lmao, plenty are the other way around (prefer women but will fuck a top tier man)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 01:59 PM
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Women seem to like buying lots of little things. Men are more apt to spend a shit ton on hobby items and then have an apartment with 1 spoon, 1 bowl, no furniture, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 01:57 PM
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I mean "telling on yourself" as in revealing your socioeconomic status.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 01:55 PM
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People who code websites don't tend to be the "STEM Lord" stereotype. It's a different beast.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:50 PM
2

lmfao why would any younger woman go for some older guy who only makes $70k?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:49 PM
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Nobody here is talking about being a "beta bucks" making $70k a year. That's a "broke but fun guy" salary
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:49 PM
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Women marry down all the time. I know doctors married to SAHDs or tradesmen. Most of the nurses I know who are married married a guy who's barely employed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:44 PM
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All those boats, bikes, the hunting gear and the workshop with the super cool tools are expensive Telling on yourself....
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:43 PM
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What do you consider consistent? That's the kicker imo. Most men can get a one-night stand 3-4 times a year, and can get a FWB if that's what they want. Getting a new notch weekly is a lot less common.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:38 PM
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No, I mean literally my looks/body. I'm a fit, decently handsome guy, and I date fit, attractive girls. Probably a 50/50 split on shorter than me vs. same height or taller. No, you don't have to work 10 times harder. Height doesn't take points away from your "SMV" like a lot of guys claim. It makes your pool of people to date somewhat smaller, but it's not the same as being ugly/fat or anything like that. I'd compare it more to racial preferences tbh. A lot of women won't date a man of a differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:28 PM
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Lmao, the average US public school is nowhere near Marxist. The only way you can claim that is if you think teaching about racism is "cultural Marxism". Schools absolutely fall all over themselves to promote ~entrepreneurship~ and gloss over all sorts of US war crimes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:25 PM
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Not fathering children doesn't mean that women are rejecting men. Plenty of people don't want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:22 PM
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There's a huge perception gap because 99% of media is based in cities with anonymous hookup culture like you mentioned, but the vast, vast majority of Americans do not, and will not, ever live in a place like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 11:40 AM
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Not orgasming during PiV doesn't mean that they don't orgasm before/after.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 11:38 AM
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It's what was true until about 10 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 11:35 AM
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Women are way, way more vulgar and explicit about sex than men are with their friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 11:34 AM
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Definitely my "looksmatch"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 11:33 AM
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"Plenty of Fish" is full of the sort of women that PPD regular complain about
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 09:11 PM
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Any day now Atlas is going to admit that her kids are not her husbands, and that she pines for the men of her 20s instead of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 09:08 PM
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American, and it's been fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 04:36 PM
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No, they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 02:18 PM
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This post is entirely false. The only nugget of truth is that male feminists are sex pests.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 02:17 PM
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OKCupid is bottom of the barrel. Men here explicitly say "Sex is a need" and that "You need to fuck him by date 3 or he should leave you". WTF do you think women will think if they hear that FROM MEN? Men give this advice because women tend to get bored and leave if we aren't sexual and making moves. It makes you look like a scared little boy if you don't make moves. Women have friends. They date because they want dick lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 02:08 PM
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Most women don't want a relationship. And a man who wants commitment is a huge, huge turnoff
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 02:05 PM
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They don't tell women to be upfront about it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 02:04 PM
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Lmao, there's multiple women who post here regularly that were sluts in their 20s and are now happily married.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 02:03 PM
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Sure, but people who aren't fans of sexual liberation tend to find someone to marry when they are young. Not fucking until you're 30 is weird. Something is probably wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 02:01 PM
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They look pretty average to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 02:00 PM
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Given the fact average looking socially retarded women are being pumped-and-dumped whereas in the past they would have become librarians, church women or even Rocky’s wife lol; Those women aren't getting pumped and dumped lofl
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:44 PM
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Why is promiscuity a red flag? It doens't last forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:43 PM
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Being a virgin past a certain age is weird and shameful. People who are in subcultures that prize virginity get married young, especially the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:41 PM
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I was saying that those actors look pretty similar to average men. I didn't say that women like fat, balding, ugly, wrinkled old men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:40 PM
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Look at Pierce Brosnan, George Clooney, Daniel Craig, Implying that the average man is anything close. Sure they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:22 PM
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Looks fade after 30 but the house will get bigger, the car will get faster, the purses will be nicer, the trips will be immenser lol? and that’s all women truly care about. No, that's just the sort of women that you attract because that's the way you present yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:21 PM
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Unless you're adopting a relative or the kid of a close friend, it is cuckoldry. You're also setting yourself up to deal with a kid with serious behavioral problems, school issues, etc. God bless you if you want to deal with that. It's absolutely not a moral duty to deal with kids like that, and if you have biological kids of your own, you actually have a moral duty to protect them from getting molested, assaulted, etc. by some random that you adopt.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:19 PM
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There is an imbalance. Women dating older men is far more common than men dating older women. On the whole, though, a solid majority of 18-22 year olds are dating other people their own age. A handful go 2-3 years older. Very, very few are going after men in their 30s, and almost zero are going after guys who are 40+ unless there's payment involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:16 PM
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You realize that there's plenty of 25 year olds who have clean apartments/houses, motorcycles, can talk business, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:14 PM
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Nah, he's right. 10 year age gap is pretty much the limit, maybe you can get away with 12ish if you're in your mid-30s and you look pretty young. Even for women who want a sugar daddy, there's enough mid-30s guys with money who they can get vs. dating some 50 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:06 PM
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How is dating somebody a "long term commitment"? You're not marrying them ffs. Dating is the "test-drive".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:04 PM
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31 and 21 is on the high-end of a normal age gap. Especially if you've kept yourself together, it's not like people can tell much difference between 27 and 31. The "older guys/younger girls" thing is ridculous when it's men chasing women who weren't born yet when the man graduated high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:00 PM
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Pretty much. Men who claim to be 45 years old and chase after 21 year old women either Think they're a Hollywood producer/banker/some sort of elite pedophile Are just outright exaggerating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 11:58 AM
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Those women with LTRs are "alpha widows"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 11:51 AM
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Basically, why are men SO obsessed with n? They aren't. That's a red pill trope that they've gotten be obssesed with. For most men, "sluttiness" is behavior based, not just raw numbers. Men are going to be turned off if you fucked the whole frat house, or a bunch of his friends, or if you did some wild-shit on video or "don't remember" a lot. I was LTR'd for 7 years so I spent A LOT of time off the scene. But for people who are 30, are unmarried, and have dated a person a year on average the las…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 11:50 AM
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How many sexual interactions, sex partners, STIs, medical treatments and procedures for treatment of STIs, abortions and contraceptives must a young woman experience How common do you think VD is? Most women have never had a venereal disease that requires treatment, even the promiscuous ones. How common do you think abortions are? Even promiscuous women maybe have had 1. Most women, regardless of whether they even have sex or not, take birth control at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 11:45 AM
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Most men regardless of age aren’t picky when it comes to sex. Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 11:44 AM
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Rich men who throw parties frequently have sex with beautiful, younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 11:42 AM
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To an extent, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 11:41 AM
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Fingers work too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 01:44 AM
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They're both major red flags because they talk about what you want and expect, not what you have to offer or share.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:37 AM
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Some women do orgasm from PIV sex. And plenty more make an orgasm happen before/after the PIV part.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:35 AM
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FDS doesn't tell women to be honest and upfront about it, at least that's not what they were saying when it first started.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:07 PM
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It's still a form of "manipulation" strictly speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:06 PM
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Sluts don't always want commitment, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:05 PM
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A woman’s value (to men) is in her purity. Are you a youth pastor who's time travelled from 2005? lmfao. Is a woman's pussy like a piece of gum?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:05 PM
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Lots of sluts don't "give" sex. They are just genuinely high sex-drive and don't mind commitment free sex. Some slutty women have low self-esteem and do it for validation, but some just want to fuck around a lot. "Beta" necessarily implies men who are doormats/weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:03 PM
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Withholding sex to get commitment is manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:00 PM
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Confidence is believing that things will turn out OK no matter what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 06:44 PM
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His job isn't boring because he works at a place that's familiar to people. What he does isn't as important as the fact that people can ask for "insider" knowledge. Also, women think you're more interesting if you're hot. I've had women ask about my boring-as-hell engineering job and go goo-goo eyed because they liked me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 06:39 PM
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Nobody is out there funding detailed studies on dating and sexual strategy, just lofl. You can make valid observations outside of peer-reviewed journals. We're discussing lifestyle, not preparing cancer treatments.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 06:17 PM
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The entire goal of FDS is manipulation
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 06:12 PM
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Ime no, they don't
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 02:39 PM
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For the record, I agree with you, but there's not much that can be done. Mass social distancing and indefinite quarantine is like a dream come true for Capitalists, so that's what we're gonna get.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:52 PM
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Trump is absolutely amateur hour compared to Bush.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:23 PM
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Seeing how "online" teenagers are now is really depressing because it's like a whole generation is going to have a broke brain like me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:23 PM
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Tbf most normies have an n-count of less than 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:20 PM
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Absolute ratings don't matter. Women are pickier, but they still end up fucking somebody. The idea that women choose and men get chose is not a new phenomenon
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:19 PM
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Because it's not. Most people are still getting paid. Most people are still consuming. This quarantine is actually an ideal situation for capitalists. They can buy up distressed assets, and they can take advantage of the permanent atomization that 2+ years of "social distancing" is going to cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:15 PM
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For healthy young people it's like the flu. A lot of young Americans are not healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:14 PM
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America is a very sick nation. Lots of people in their 40s, 50s, and 60s are diabetic or have some other sort of chronic condition
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:13 PM
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Most women prefer vanilla guys (neutral). The ones that are "kinky" usually want men to be submissive. Very, very few women like dominant men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:08 PM
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WFH always has been sort of a vacation
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:07 PM
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It can. Mate guarding is very real
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:06 PM
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Nobody is going to get to leave their apartment for 2-3 years dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 11:37 AM
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Lmao, it's never coming back, dude. People are being groomed to fear anyone who's not in their nuclear family, even moreso than they were before.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 11:36 AM
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Most people still have jobs and consume. What's going away is dating and social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 11:35 AM
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Nope, it's the exact opposite actually. People are retreating further and further into their nuclear families, and most people aren't going to come out. We are literally being taught to treat anyone who doesn't already live with you as a vector of disease, and we aren't going to even be allowed to be near them for at least 2 years
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 11:34 AM
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The Blue pill isn't real. TRP invented it to have a name for their opposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 11:32 AM
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Please name one matriarchal society that had "divorce courts"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 11:31 AM
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That's kind of my point. There's a lot of "grey area" situations. Thrown out doesn't mean guilty or innocent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 11:27 AM
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They get violence/authority involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 11:26 AM
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It contradicts your point. My point is that you don't just "come across" women "following your goals" for a lot of men. You're being deliberately obtuse when you say things like that. Saying things "just happen" is extremely blue pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 11:24 AM
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I'm not disagreeing with you. What I really call bullshit on this idea that Chad just "lives his life" or "follows his goals" and women naturally fall in his lap. That only works if a man's goal put him in a place with lots of women. If your goals put you in a sausage fest, then you aren't going to be a slayer. If your goals put you in Alaska, you're SOL. If you're goals put you in finance in Chicago, you can be a 5'5" balding Indian guy and still slay. "Pursuing your career" only gets you women…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:01 AM
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I'm not what anyone would call an alpha (I'm a turbo manlet), and yet somehow I've had these experiences that RPers claim only "alphas" get (attractive women aggressively pursuing me, sex without effort, etc.). I've never had to "betabux" or anything like that. I've actually had to be what I feel/think is how a "nice guy" acts to be more successful with women (I'm an aloof, blunt asshole naturally)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 11:58 PM
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How? Most alphas don’t have to put in work. All alphas have to do is turn the knob on the door to get it, and they walk right through. Betas need a key, door code, clear image on the camera, show up at the right time and bring dinner with them. This isn't even true. You're confusing "betas" with "omegas"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 11:54 PM
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It’s either unspoken because it doesn’t exist, or women are attracted to sexual predators then. It's unspoken because it's usually a grey area, and it's not 100% of the time. The party guy who's fucked 100 women has mostly been above board, but there's probably been a few drunken incidents where things weren't exactly fully consensual (the Brett Kavanaugh fiasco is a prime example). There's also always "that guy" or "that frat" who really, really takes things too far that everyone knows about, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 11:46 PM
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Women are a by-product of his life, here and there - during the course of his own life, on his own terms - he comes across some woman with whom there's a mutual attraction and then . . . something might happen. Encountering women as a by-product of your life isn't a given, though. If you're in a male-dominated industry, it ain't happening. If you end up in a rural area for whatever reason, it ain't happening. The Chaddiest motherfucker on Earth who lives in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan is sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 11:41 PM
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It's an unspoken truth that a lot of "alpha", high n-count men are sexual predators. But RR is correct here. Guys who are good with women have a "killer instinct" that let's them know how to pickup on signals and quickly filter who's down to fuck and who's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 11:35 PM
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Well back before hook up apps existed and people where forced to find partners locally within small communities, people on the whole worried about bigger things like national interests and such. What the fuck are you even talking about? People were having tons of casual sex before dating apps existed (there are no "hookup" apps for heterosexuals). And young people are far, far more turned on to politics than they were 20 or 30 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 11:27 PM
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500k NW at 50 is basically poverty, lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 11:25 PM
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Are you a straight male? Yes. I've found that Hinge and Bumble have a higher proporation of women who meet my standards, but on Tinder that just means I swipe left more. The women I match with who want something serious vs something casual is about the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 11:07 PM
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Clear communication is telling guys that you are looking for a serious relationship. That comes after you've already been on a date or 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 11:03 PM
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You're definitely the type of girl I would date. Though FYI, you definitely give off a vibe that you aren't looking for something "serious", even if you let the guy lead. Lots of men assume any girl with piercings/dyed hair is a slut. You have to work against that a bit. I'm just saying that you don't need to be proactive. Men will approach you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 11:02 PM
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If you're a fit 6-7/10, men will approach you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 10:57 PM
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My experience is that there's no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 10:57 PM
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Men expect to do the asking, though. When a woman asks out a man, he generally sees it as a "freebie", and even if he doesn't really like her, he'll still go out and try to fuck if she's decently attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 10:55 PM
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There is zero difference between Tinder, Bumble, or Hinge in terms of "hookups" vs LTR (none of those apps are for "hookups" fwiw, compared to an actual hookup app like Grindr)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 10:52 PM
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posting on the relationship_advice sub venting about their sweetheart, who told him that she had a low n count, but it was later revealed through mutual friends that she had a MMF and/or used to ho around in general. Women are notorious for lying about this. Reddit is not normal. Many times on a Saturday night, you will see a woman post a selfie with her dog on her Instagram/Snapchat story with the caption “quiet night in” and you think she’s a good girl staying in, but she actually invited a gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 10:50 PM
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i am a very straightforward person so i usually ask if they want to go on a date or something so maybe i shouldn’t do that anymore?? Women being straightforward makes men assume that you are really horny/desperate. The general rule is that the man does the asking, so if a woman takes that step, the assumption is that she's really, really down. Most men will take that as free sex, even if they don't really like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 10:49 PM
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at what point do men decide if a partner is worth anything for them in a LTR? Pretty much the first or second date. i dont want to change my morals to allow sex on the first date (i j dont want casual sex) but it seems once i say no to this, they loose all interest in meeting up w me again. FYI, it makes zero difference if you sleep with me on the first date or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 10:48 PM
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Most would be extremely uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 10:44 PM
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you will see a woman post a selfie with her dog on her Instagram/Snapchat story with the caption “quiet night in” She might be getting her guts rearranged, but it ain't by a guy ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 10:43 PM
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If I were shopping and a guy approached me to ask for my number, then that wouldn't be harassment Yes, it would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 05:49 PM
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You didn't describe a harmless approach. Randomly approaching a woman in public is not harmless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 05:42 PM
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Oof, I hadn't seen the 2017-2018 data.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 05:42 PM
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It's not a problem anywhere, except with predatory men who think that they are entitled to approaching/harrasing any women who they come across in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:52 PM
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If I am trying on shoes and a guy simply says "Hey, I noticed you and think you're cute. Can I have your number? I would like to go out with you" then he is not harassing me. You're OK with it, but most people aren't. That's dangerously creepy/forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:23 PM
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No, that's just how every hack woman comedian does her act.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 03:04 AM
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Ireland/Netherlands/Belgium might as well be Britain.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:24 AM
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I just meant middle America in general. My point is that you live in an elite world where there's plenty of normal weight, even petite women to go after. You mentioned that size 8 was too big for you - got back to your hometown, and you'd quickly consider size 8 to be "petite".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:23 AM
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My experience is very, very different from yours. But we don't have quite as many slags passed out on the High Street every Friday/Saturday.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:16 AM
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My point is that you notice them more because you interact with them for fun/hookups. In raw numbers though, there's far more girls who never participate in hookup culture or have the very occasional one-night stand when they're single. If you get around, you interact with a lot of high n-count women, which skews your view of how promiscuous women are on average. The vast, vast, vast majority have n-counts under 20. In the age of hook ups, tiinder and Instagram? No. The age of "hook ups"? What t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:51 AM
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Yeah, but I mean that you shouldn't ever have to worry about that when it comes to finding women to date. You can just hang around Dimes Square and pick up hotties. Get a job doing Industrial Engineering at a steel mill in Memphis, and you can talk about your struggles about women not being small enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:49 AM
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I actually know a lot of short guys who have perfectly fine sex lives (they aren't all "slayers", but they are married or have no problem getting dates, some are slayers). I live in a pretty short city, though (based on observation), and the sex ratio here favors men. All the guys I know who struggle with women are average or above average height. One of the guys who struggles the most is 6'2"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:44 AM
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Male sexuality isn't shamed. Predatory, inappropriate behavior is shamed. Harassing women at coffee shops, at work, at the grocery store isn't "male sexuality"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:41 AM
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You're overestimating how many women ho around constantly. The women who rack up 50, 60, 100 partners are more noticeable because a lot of men have slept with those women. They also tend to be fun, memorable, and exciting (at least for a fling). They are a minority, but they are a very noticeable minority. In raw numbers, there's a lot more good girls out there who only have sex with a handful of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:39 AM
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Have the average guy display sexual interest explicitly in a coffee shop and watch the disgust of everyone. That's not an appropriate environment either. Appropriate environments are bars and parties, where you've gotten a signal
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:37 AM
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The vast majority of 25 year old women have an n-count below 12. Median is 5-6, in the US at least (not sure what you degenerate Irish/Brits are like) An n count of 12 means she fucked about only 2 guys per year by the time she gets 25. Yes, and that's the norm, even in cities. Less than 2% of women report 4+ sexual partners in a year, and a lot of that is in very specialized fetish communities. Most women go "monkey-branch" from boyfriend to boyfriend, and maybe have the occasional one-night st…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:33 AM
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If she smokes, she pokes (goes triple for weed)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:30 AM
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You realize that Sex in the City was on the air 20 years ago, right? There was plenty of celebration of female sexual liberation in the 80s and 90s as well, arguably more than there is now. What you're remembering is the weird prudishness of the Bush years, which still weren't that prudish.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:21 AM
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No, they don't. Or they just have parents that grew up in more *ahem* conservative cultures as you have pointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:20 AM
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It's why men are creeps for showing sexual interest and frustration. Men are called creeps when they cross the line. Showing sexual interest in an appropriate environment doesn't mean you get called a creep. Hitting on women at work does.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:19 AM
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How low of an n-count do you require for something serious? There's tons of women with an n-count below 12 who've just dated normally and maybe had 1 or 2 ONS, nothing insane. If you've been promiscuous yourself, why would you even want a virgin or a girl who's only fucked 1 other guy? Those types are usually far more mentally unstable or have weird hangups compared to the "average" n-count girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:15 AM
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Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:14 AM
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What is a guy like him supposed to do? Are women inherently repulsed by his natural self? You get into a relationship early in life and settle down. Don't chase casual sex unless you're an art/theatre kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:11 AM
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Nah, lots of the girls he's talking about are very skinny, often with a history of anorexia
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:09 AM
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Yes, there is, lmfao. Move to a big city or hang around art school.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:09 AM
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Yes, and they do all the time. Hot, 30+ year old single women are comparatively rarer than hot, 22-year-old single women. They have even more options.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 10:37 PM
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Going to the gym doesn't make you a "genetic speciman" though. It's cheating. Why you think the classic 4chan /fit/ "Wii Fit and Zumba" meme came about?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 10:36 PM
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A guy needs to earn quite abit to support a family alone. Not really. There's huge parts of the country where you can buy a very nice house for less than $200,000, and there's massive labor shortages because no one wants to live there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 10:30 PM
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I don't have a "pill", but politics is pretty important to me. How important is it that your partner aligns politically with you? Pretty important. I could see myself dating any political orientation, but it would be a struggle to date a lib. A conservative woman would be a fun debate partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 09:22 PM
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Women can easily rack up an n count of 20+ with all Chads. They don't, though. The maxim "she's fucked a guy uglier than you" absolutely applies to any promiscuous woman. I’m just revealing the truth so men don’t orbit and get divorced raped by women who have nothing to offer except pre-owned pussy with semen residue You're not "revealing" anything. Average men (actually average, not reddit spergs) know how to tell if a girl is a slut, and make a decision on whether she's worth it or not. You're…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 09:17 PM
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She is not the norm. If most women were that promiscuous, there wouldn't be so many incels or guys who can't get laid. The "80/20" rule applies to women - 20% of the women have 80+% of hookups, most women never or very rarely participate. And if she's the type to overshare like that, her count is probably not 30. She's probably not lying. Stop hanging out with sluts if it makes you so angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:53 PM
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Add to this the fact that the vast majority of American women are simply too large for me to feel attracted to. I don’t care about height and have dated actual TALL women but they desperately need to be not fat, and so half the trouble is even my own attraction to women If you went to an Ivy and work in finance, why are you even around fat women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:59 PM
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He got cheated on because he is a bootboy loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:58 PM
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No, it's just an excuse. I've always been shorter than average (5'6 as an adult), and I've never been lacking in attention from women. Being short has almost never been an issue. Sure, some women have rejected me for it, but plenty more have trashed short men and then told me I was an exception, or that I was so cute they didn't care. Most of my struggles in dating have come from being paranoid/schizotypal and certain hangups and fear from how I was raised.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:56 PM
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Just try to escalate and move on if she's not receptive That's not new advice. There was a whole episode of King of the Hill about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 04:47 PM
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I went with them to some parties and tried to observe but they would always isolate the girls they were talking to. So no way to here what they were saying Because it literally doesn't matter what they were saying. The words aren't what's important. It's that they escalated (got the girls one on one and went from there). You don't have to be forward or sexually aggressive or crude. You just have to move things forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 04:01 PM
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And so am I. A petite girl is very easily the "looksmatch" of a petite guy. Attractiveness is multi dimensional. I.m.e. tall, big boys always overestimate how much women care about size. From what I've seen, the women who gravitate towards the thick, muscular men tend to be chubby or fat (because those women crave a man that makes them feel less huge)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 03:58 PM
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Short slender guys date petite girls all the fucking time. What planet do you live on?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 03:42 PM
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I'm a 5'6 man who has dated, had casual sex with, and been crushed on by 6-7/10 women. Guess I'd be a 10/10 if I wasn't a manlet, since I'm clearly an 8 and being short takes 2 points away.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:31 PM
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That's my point. The rules are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:30 PM
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18-21 is absolutely not any sort of "peak beauty" for most women. That's a trope that gets promoted because Hollywood is full of pedophiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:54 AM
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Protip: women don't carry around rulers to measure your height
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:50 AM
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Women who want attention and think that posting "wow, I'm such a S L U T" makes them a comedian. Half of these women have never had a one-night-stand, and a lot of the rest cried after the guy never called them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:40 AM
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Epstein was good looking, and he got away with a lot Weinstein kept his act going for a long, long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:37 AM
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Why do you bet that? I'd bet it's a lot, lot lower. I know one guy in my broader circle of friends/acquaintances who can't get laid (and he has serious self-esteem/social issues that have been getting better). All the rest, even the ones that live with their parents at 25, still get laid. Maybe not with the best looking girls, but they have relationships, have sex, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:27 AM
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This is complete bullshit. 6 women are plenty happy with 6 men who are taller than them (maybe even slightly shorter) and in shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:25 AM
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If you're high status, rules are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:23 AM
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How so? Women's standards for an LTR are way higher than for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:21 AM
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What incentive do they have? Most men don't care about n-count that much. And if women were really this wild, The 80/20 rule works both ways. Maybe 20% of women are what you would call "promiscuous". And even within that group, most of them aren't going to yacht parties in Dubai or having football teams run trains on them or fucking in club bathrooms. You need to chill a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:20 AM
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No. This is based on CDC-published stats (that's why I say "including oral" because the CDC's definition of sexual partners includes that) Most Mormons are engaged by 21 and didn't fuck around at all before that. In normal America, it's more like engaged by 22-25, with a bit of fucking around
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:15 AM
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N count of 12 is 80-90th percentile for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:49 AM
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TIL that most college girls only have sex in LTRs Actually, yes. Why do you think so many college guys complain about how hard it is to get laid, and have zero respect for the girls who are willing to have casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:48 AM
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A significant number of women (around 1/3) never have a ONS. A lot more have 1-2 in their lifetime. Very, very few women have an n-count over 15, and most are in the single digits.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:46 AM
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Actually, yes, he probably will. Chad's standards for a "slut" are far, far different than an incels. Chad considers a girl with an n-count of 12 a "good girl". He's not gonna go to some Protestant cult church and find some weird broad with hair down to her waist and a never-shaven pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:44 AM
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The vast, vast majority of people - men and women - rarely have casual sex. For people in their early-to-mid 20s, average lifetime sexual partners (including oral) is 4-5. A very solid majority of 20-somethings have a single-digit n-count. Most people might have had a handful of casual hookups, and do most of their fucking in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:37 AM
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Why would I do that? I'm not into that. Telling people that going to the gym or getting a haircut will improve their dating chances is useless bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:47 PM
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Put in your Tinder bio "I go to the gym and cut my hair"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:43 PM
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You're posting word salad. Are you OK?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:12 PM
1

Can't go to a bar, social distancing m8
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:11 PM
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Sex ratio and number of available partners is all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:53 PM
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What are you talking about? And what does any of that have to do with figuring out if you're dating a slut?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:50 PM
2

How do you not get the opportunity to learn?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 04:32 PM
1

Learn what?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 04:09 PM
-1

It does. Neither of those things makes a difference in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 03:19 PM
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Because it helps you build relationships, and it's social proof. Being single past a certain age is highly unusual and reflects poorly on you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 03:19 PM
1

Why have insulin levels increased?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 01:45 PM
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There aren't going to be any parties for another 3-4 years, if ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 12:54 PM
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The same situation happens at college, and somehow the issue of "dependas" and having kids too early doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 12:51 PM
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Most of the people at your hobby groups and in your friend circles are already engaged or married once you leave college, if you aren't in a big city.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 12:47 PM
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Man. It's my main priority. Success in other areas of life is so much easier if you're romantically successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 12:42 PM
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It's called having social awareness. You don't need to know your girl's n-count or every detail of her past to get an idea of whether or not she would make a good wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 12:41 PM
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Off in the wrong direction. 2700 is an optimistic average (as in a I round down the booze calories and kinda gloss around the AYCE binges)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 09:57 PM
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Like, if me and 4 other guys share a house, our rents would be nothing. Or if lived a van life. You're not comparing apples to apples, though. Splitting a home with 4 other dudes or living in a fucking van is obviously far, far worse than sharing a home with your wife. With marriage, a woman wants to show off, so you're going to be buying a house that you can't afford and nice cars/vacations etc. to put on facebook or whatever. That's not true at all. Women are very economical, and will be fruga…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 09:53 PM
1

Visit Eastern Kentucky, or West Virginia, or an Indian reservation and tell me what you think of America.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 09:51 PM
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"Urban" men are more tolerant of overweight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 09:50 PM
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Yes, they do. The majority of women you see complaining about how men only want them for sex are fat girls. Maybe certain subcultures give overweight women a lot of love, but that's not the case for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 07:23 PM
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Sounds like how a lot of homes are in the US. Have you ever been to a poor neighborhood or middle America?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 07:21 PM
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the world's HIGHEST home ownership rate is in Romania An ex-communist country where a lot of people were given a home by the state. Median home value in 1980 was around $55,074.15 in 1980 and around $244,943.35 in 2018. The national picture doesn't tell the whole story. The rise in home prices is not evenly distributed. Houses in Lima, OH are barely worth double what they were in 1980. Houses in Seattle or Boston or Austin, TX are worth many, many times what they were in 1980.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 07:17 PM
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Yes, at least the stuff I cook. Eating out I just estimate. I snack a little more than I should while stoned as well, go out drinking 2+ days a week, and hit the all you can eat buffet with the boys 1-2 times a month (when that was allowed)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 07:15 PM
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They probably aren't that strong, or have extremely efficient metabolisms. I'm a small guy who's not that strong (can hit 1/2/3/4/ for 1-4 reps depending on the lift), and my maintenance TDEE is ~2700 a day when I'm able to go to the gym 3-4 days a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 07:06 PM
1

I guess being a manlet and liking "alt" girls tends to attract the doms
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 07:04 PM
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Pretty ambivalent in "day life" (i.e. I'll take charge quickly, but give it up quickly if someone else is coming in strong). Extremely dominant in sexual preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:57 PM
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Not my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:56 PM
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If you have kids, those advantages go up even more. Society is heavily biased towards the nuclear family.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:55 PM
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AFAIK not many women like domming men. You're wrong. More women are dominant than submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:47 PM
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Marriage is an economic arrangement, and it makes sense for the vast, vast majority of people to marry early. You can pool incomes, and your expenses are less than two single people (i.e. you can share a home, share groceries, help each other when one hits a hard spot). That's not even getting into how expensive being single and mingling can get vs. being married where you can prioritize differently. Plus, marriage is social proof. People treat married people much better and assume that they're …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:43 PM
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It also depends a lot on the particular socio-economic class of the group in question. This applies to the vast majority of the discussions that happen on PPD. Boss up and a lot of the problems that men here complain about become less of a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:42 PM
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Red Pill ideas are the mainstream. I don't know what planet RPers who claim they were "lied to" live on. Things like "treat 'em mean to keep 'em keen", "women like good looking men", "don't be a bug-a-boo", "women want their man to be their emotional rock", etc. have all been mainstream ideas forever and are basically just summations of what TRP talks about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:39 PM
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Overweight, high waist-to-hip ratio, chubby face.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:33 PM
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Check out some statistics on young adult and teenage obesity, they're all fatter than ever. Obestiy rates aren't super high for young adults (well below 30%).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:31 PM
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Honestly, same. Quarantine has me eating a lot more beans than I'm used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:30 PM
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It's not. It's almost impossible to afford buying a house on 2 average worker's wages in most cities. 40 years ago, you could buy a house on 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:30 PM
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Take away at least one of the gym ones - a lot of girls don't like that. Try to find some more still pictures as well, or maybe take a screen grab from one of the guitar gifs and make it a still.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 05:17 PM
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Why can't you run a marathon? There's enough fat in your body to do it. Because there's other factors at play. My lungs and legs cannot exert themselves like that for that amount of time, no matter how much energy is available. That does not mean that my body won't use the fat stores in a caloric deficit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 05:12 PM
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Well, looks like we just need to breed the fat ones out of existence I guess, if nothing's changeable like you claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 05:10 PM
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