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Certainly they do fuck them more than the nice guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 09:39 PM
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God is wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 09:11 PM
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She always is often the one that ignites hell. They feed on drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 09:11 PM
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Sure, because women do not fuck felons and bullies and murderers, women are soooo concerned about ethics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 09:03 PM
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Sure, women are doing fine up to a very old age, but on terms of dating they will have less dating options as they age. Now, those options may be enough for women, but other women may feel depressive if they based their self steem on men's attraction on them, which fortunately is not the case for most women. Men game is different. They literally have nothing to offer in the beginning, even if the younger guy is attractive being young, he will not be loved until he has some wealth and status and …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:11 PM
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But you recognize there’s an inherent difference between the men who were already a prize at 18-22 and who continue to increase in value vs. the men who needed 10+ years to “become a prize”, yes? You do have a point, but some men are late boomers. They are fat while young, or awkward, yet they improve and become better. In the same way men who kill it being young often do not grow more or even decay becoming fat. However, I do think most men eventually end with women at their level so I agree on…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:01 PM
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Lesbian relationships are too chaotic even women being stereotypically more pacific and less violent. Gay male marriage is more solid than Lesbian marriage. Gay male couples are way richer and have more sex than Lesbian couples, and also the men look way more cute than two women dating each other (usually one looks like Shrek). I think same sex relationships also prove that dick has a clear healing effect, and it is a vital organ for any healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:42 PM
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You cannot say that in reddit even if it is common knowledge bro
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:39 PM
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Autistic women feel attracted to neurotypical men just as other women do, yet as women do not have to put much effort in seduction, I feel autism affect men way more than it affect women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:38 PM
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If men do not get sex, they will find alternatives regardless of ethics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:30 PM
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This bro. I'm glad men cannot be sexually manipulated with promises of sex and marriage as we have porn and we at least can satisfy ourselves for a while... nut clarity is divine gift.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:29 PM
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Most men are not getting any sex anyway as women are way pickier, so they need porn. ED and stuff may be collateral damage, but still better than being sexually frustrated because women do not match their lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:25 PM
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I guess women in their 30s and 40s who love singlehood are like men in their 20s and 30s who like being single too. Eventually men want a relationship, and eventually women get tired of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:15 PM
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Sure they can be even more selective, but that does not mean it works to lock the men they like for relationships, though. Just sex. Also consider freezing your eggs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:13 PM
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Regardless that is good for women, creepy men are not behind them, and also those men are not spending too much money unnecessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:11 PM
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I wouldn’t go ahead and date a Christian man who says I’m going to hell because I don’t believe in his god. That is OK, it is also better for him to date someone who actually shares his values and beliefs, and often religious communities encourage long term relationships and fidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:46 PM
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Good for you. Men do not need older women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:44 PM
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Who’s asking what men find attractive? Being a great woman has nothing to do with if you’re attractive to a man. Umm, this forum is about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:17 PM
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Some women here even claim men hate women for watching porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:16 PM
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Women's quality is in her youth and beauty. Men's quality is in his achievements and status. I think it is not unfair for women. They get lots of options in a small window, while men do not get any options by default but many ways to earn them. It all evens out. Men who do not develop themselves are fucked. Women who did not get the best men when they could are fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:15 PM
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Hate a: intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury b: extreme dislike or disgust : ANTIPATHY, LOATHING had a great hate of hard work c: a systematic and especially politically exploited expression of hatred a crime motivated by bigotry and hate https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hate That's OK it is hate, hate is normal feeling in humans. Pretending to be empathic and claiming to not hate them is just fooling yourself and others just to look empa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:40 PM
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Hate is often defined as extreme dislike, and indeed, those men are destined to be unloved forever, die rotten alone and found days later.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:39 PM
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My point is that what men find attractive in women is youth and fertility, while women require more from men, such as money and status. Women have it easier by default of biology, but men have more ways to attract women. I do not think it is unfair for any gender, it evens out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:33 PM
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HOT MOAR
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:26 PM
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Women have lots of bad options. The good options find better younger women, not resentful bitter feminists in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:23 PM
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No need to compete for those women if you are used those years to become the prize, lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:20 PM
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Agree 100%. The notion that it's predatory is mostly perpetuated by older women, out of jealousy. They are mad they have been scammed by the "put study and job first" and now they are baby sick and love deprived, but the men they want do not want them back because they do have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:19 PM
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Maybe creepy for you but not for for many women, specially if the guy looks fine and has resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:18 PM
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A hot 25 year old guy that’s rich is going to beat out the 30 year old every time with the same attributes. Sure, but no woman at 30 beats one at 25 ever in attraction and youth, considering they both are thin and average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:17 PM
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Sorry, but that is the sexual revolution women wanted LOL Deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:16 PM
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Not really, what makes men great takes lots of time and work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:15 PM
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Suicides record high. Umm, why is it bad people are checking out of this hellish life? It is cruel to manipulate them into keep suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:04 PM
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I do not get the "sex object" thing. I do not feel an object for being sexually desired, if anything, the objects are personified to get sexual gratification from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:00 PM
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I guess it is the same reason why they try to shame men for dating foreigners or dating younger women. They just want to revert sexual revolution for men, but without losing the benefits they got for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:51 PM
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This. ASs if being bad in bed was a concern for the 1/3 of men that are literally getting zero sex and another 1/3 is barely getting any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:46 PM
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I want to address two points about your mindset that I believe is holding you back. It is not my problem, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:32 PM
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Isn't it true? Men fought wars, invaded countries, sacrificed their lungs in coal mines, for what? For pussy? That is not worth even the least man's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:32 PM
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Maybe they are watching porn because sex is not as good? I'm sure that "addiction" goes away if sex is good and frequent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:17 PM
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1/3 of men are not getting any sex, so I'm sure not being good at bed because porn is the least of their concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:13 PM
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Precisely incels prove that men's sexual satisfaction is not enough, they want love and care from a woman, therefore you shall not feel bad men watch porn.. they are not ditching women, and they still need you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:03 PM
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Women long to be desired. I don’t feel desired if I know you seek out sexual gratification from strangers having sex on the internet. I don't think men desire women less just for having porn, though. Nothing compares to the real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:59 PM
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This. Sometimes I feel they just want to punish those men for being genetically disadvantaged. Literally shaming men for urges they do not have control on... it is evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:54 PM
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No need to compete if you get the satisfaction you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:52 PM
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we would maybe have less rape, sexual assault, voyeurs, preying on women, shit like that. Umm, sexual crimes are lower than ever, though, even when so many men are sexless and in other times of history would use violence to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:49 PM
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I mean, in the context of a guy that wants a relationship, moving to a city for hooking up is not convenient, but indeed guys will have sex anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:46 PM
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😭😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 09:43 PM
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I cannot explicitly say that, though. I would be banned. Yet people tell men to eat their suffering, to struggle, to fight with no guarantee, for what? For women that laugh about you? For a government and society that does not respect you? Ah, but suddenly our life is so valuable and precious. Nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 09:00 PM
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Umm, can you elaborate? I mean, society is clearly happy these men are not creeping women or trying to get sex or causing violent revolutions. It is a win win.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:58 PM
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I do not get why men ending their suffering in this limbo existence is seen as a bad thing? Society will tell us no one owes us anything, that we are in our own, that no one has to like us, that we are not entitled to love and sex, etc. and then when we finally take our life and death in our hands (because we literally cannot fix autism or being short), then they want to stop us to "save us" and even banning us for accepting the reality it is the best exit some men can have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:52 PM
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No one ever invited me out, no one ever invited me to a party or clubbing during college and high school, no woman ever got a crush on me, no one cared when I was lonely and depressed, etc. all just because I probably have a little Asperger. These are the same people that celebrate those days of autism and Asperger awareness, LOL. Sure, I overcame all of that without people, but I still resent them and if I get a way to be at peace and happy being alone, without drugs and shit, I'd take it at an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:50 PM
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I mean society in general. They never cared about me, they never were for me when I needed them the most. So I literally do not need them for anything, yet I feel lonely and isolated because our brain evolved for social relationships to survive. Now we do not need such relationships to survive, but we still have those residual feelings that prevent me from being happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:45 PM
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Covid just made the issue worse, but printing money has always been America's favorite hobby: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021%E2%80%932022\_inflation\_surge
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:43 PM
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I mean, objectively, they have safety net, security, food, healthcare, etc. so that is better than ever. However, suffering is subjective and they are still struggling on that aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:34 PM
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Inflation has literally been increasingly since the the 70s at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:33 PM
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Is this a joke? The idea that "porn, video games, films" is any substitute to real relations is just absolutely delusional. I apologize I did not explain. My point is that in the past it was worse to live without real relations, but today you can distract yourself from your shitty social situations with those distractions, and arguably that is a good thing because people suffer less during those times. In the past, without those relations and social life, people would kill themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:32 PM
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It is kind of unfair you have to be interested and care about people who treated you as trash, just to not feel alone. It is like apologizing for being a victim. If only I found a way to be happy with myself without drugs and without feeling like a loser, but our mind and body bullies us to socialize using negative feelings and bad moods even when technically we do not need to socialize anymore to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:30 PM
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Also saying society doesn't hold you to those standards isn't true because the man who fit the description of what a man used to be have the most respect and advantage when it comes to pursuing things. I mean, the pressure is still there but those lost men at least can entertain themselves with porn and media, hopefully they may find it is meaningless, but at least it is not just boredom and despair if they cannot get a family... they can just masturbate themselves to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:23 PM
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No, I actually believe that a family life and wife and such is a better thing, but as most men cannot get that because inflation, unemployment, etc. then at least those men have some toys to entertain themselves instead just simply die as they would in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:20 PM
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This has led to a smaller proportion of men in higher earning professions and hurt their ability to get into relationships I get your point, but it seems that affects more women than men. Men have no problem dating richer or poorer women, but women would not date men earning more, so they are limiting themselves more. Regardless it is good to ask ourselves if men just are choosing a hedonist lifestyle after all and relationships require too much sacrifice and pain for the comfort they are used t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:13 PM
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You actually have good point. I'm just saying that the force on men to comply is not as strong as in the past and generally I see that as good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:55 PM
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That's why women don't date poor guys. Poverty has little to do with no honor or manhood, though. I mean honor and manhood as a social acceptance currency, but I grant you that indeed now money defines everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:40 PM
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Umm, it doesn't. Just pointing out how many TRP haters actually practice its most toxic values.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:38 PM
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Yeah, it all depends on what we value the most. Hedonism, security, safety... or rather glory, risk with greatness, originality at risk of shame, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:17 PM
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I get your point, but I'd say it is simpler than that. Women like masculine men, and incels are often not masculine, they are either too weak or too shy or too introvert. They may hate women or not. However, men who are masculine and hate women are still attractive to plenty of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:14 PM
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...rural women are less discerning because they have limited options in my experience I would say it is the opposite. They are more discerning because everyone know each other, so they know what they would get if they married Jack vs the alcoholic John. Meanwhile, in the city you just met a nice guy that may have easily be a drug addict or criminal but you cannot know as they are lost in the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:00 PM
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I disagree for these reasons: A larger pool is not necessarily better because the issue is the rate of men per woman. Many of the dating problems men and women face today is because they have too many options and cannot commit or stick to one. Cities give more options, so they increase this problem. In small towns people have better ways to vet each other, families know who is who, so it is easy to recommend each other for dating, and vet single people. Cities are too expensive and some are more…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:58 PM
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If manhood is obsolete, or rejected by society, and women are not an option for them, then yes, manchildren are taking a logical step by enjoying that lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:49 PM
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not realizing that as soon as they fall prey to incel-ogy, they've condemned themselves to a lifetime of celibacy/loneliness That is a weird take, considering how many literal woman murders have girlfriends and even wives in jail. Women do not care so much about a man hating women, as long as he gives her something (protection, sex, etc). Incel ideology is about self shame, not about hating woman, and I'm sure plenty of incels blame themselves more than they blame any woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:46 PM
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When men see their paths to be pointless it's better to waste your life on drugs porn video games than actually try something. Agreed. If there is no point, better enjoy the ride to hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:45 PM
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Most men are still stuck in the father/provider mindset and have no idea what to do with themselves outside of that. I personally doubt it was different in the past. For most of history men were father/providers as a side of their goals, mission, work, etc. However, the fewer men that do want that indeed are probably lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:41 PM
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However human beings don’t think this way. Somebody working in a sweat shop today doesn’t think “oh, well best be grateful, if this was 300 years ago I would be in chain gang working a cotton field”. Indeed, I think happiness is more subjective than ever. For instance, you can claim a western jailed man is doing far better than the average poor person in the world because the first have security, food and protection. I'm sure people also value subjective things such as freedom and agency, which …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:39 PM
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You WILL eat the bugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:36 PM
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Disagree with your premise that average woman is so much better put together than average man. Yeah, I'm assuming that but honestly I cannot say much about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:36 PM
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Apparently you don't live in Russia, Ukraine, the Middle East, Africa, rural South East Asia, ... I'm talking about the West, and honestly I only see western liberal women supporting the parties that want to send western men to fight there, while also claiming to hate war and supporting equality, and it is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:35 PM
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I just think men struggle to figure out what personal fulfillment is. Women are a bit ahead of the curve there. So far it seems women defined their purpose as taking over what men were doing, such as becoming CEOs or shit like that. So they are ahead in the sense they still have much to do to get into that, but also it is nothing original or unique of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:32 PM
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So you do support TRP, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:30 PM
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Hasan Piker Sure, fucking teenage girls while preaching how bad it is is so manly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:26 PM
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Some otherwise-incels are indeed having sex as you suggest.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:21 PM
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Agreed, and although I focused on men, women are also more masculine, less feminine and less dependent on men. I guess genders are kind of synching with each other's characteristics instead of mating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:20 PM
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Agreed, but it is not just about sex, but how men lost any sense of responsibility and accountability for society or family. That may be interpreted as good or bad, but may produce nihilism which means suffering in some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:10 PM
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See how polyamorous groups look. They are literally disgusting people having sex with other disgusting people. Even the writers of their books are hideous. See Franklin Veaux.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:01 PM
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Same with women that identify themselves as feminists, they are often fat, unappealing and disgusting. Regardless, Feminism and TRP is far more common and intrinsic in people who are not explicit about it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 01:49 PM
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I would not want a man who doesn't focus 100% on me Precisely, that is why I listed it as a benefit for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 01:46 PM
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People's fates are decided way earlier than they realize especially in the dating market. Any source of that? Anecdotally, most popular girls and boys in High School today are fat or on drugs, while average girls and boys often got fit and are doing fine now. Also, why do you care if they develop that charm naturally or not? Some people are naturally serious and develop humor, or viceversa, are not serious at all but develop seriousness as they mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 08:33 PM
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This. The irony is that many values of the RP actually increase the value of men women want, so it helps them have more options to pick valuable men. It seems they believe RP is just blackpill or PUA shit. It indeed comes from that trend, but it is more on the side of self improvement and that makes it generally good.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 08:30 PM
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I think these percents are tricky and it seems you are criticizing something that has nothing to do with the red pill. Some things to consider: Most men are not looking to a relationship anyway, just a woman close enough for frequent sex, so they have no problem with her having sex with other men. Most men look like shit, so yet, being fit and going to gym can easily put you in top 20% of men on that aspect, while women can be thin and attractive with no muscle or an athletic life. Many men are …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 08:28 PM
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If you are using pills to get happy, yet, you are miserable and treating it with drugs instead fixing your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:01 PM
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Yeah, it is literally an experience you lost of life. I feel sad for that but I'm finding ways to be at peace with that as a guy at my age (30).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:16 PM
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No idea. Regardless it is a philosophical question if someone is really happy because of pills or it is just a way to cope. I honestly have no idea and I would not judge men or women for using them because life can get very harsh and sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:12 PM
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It is not so simple: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ozfyqb/single\_women\_are\_not\_happier\_than\_married\_women/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:04 PM
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Yeah, also an opinion of what ONE happiness expert says is worthless. Very weird almost all articles making this claim quote that expert, rather than statistics and general studies, which often do suggest women do better after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:03 PM
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It seems we have this post like once a week. ...says happiness expert Hmmm, almost all of theses articles come from what a happiness expert said. Would not be more accurate to use statistics and studies? For example, we know older women use far more antidepressants regardless of civil status, but men kill themselves more. I would happiness evens out but women take more pills while men just end it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:02 PM
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Women say to want a thing but really want another.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:52 PM
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Yes and no. Men have more options to become attractive, but these options are hard to develop. Women have less things that cause attraction on them, but they often have them for granted by birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:08 PM
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