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Yeah, I was making the same point. Although I don't think people have zero control over how they deal with their hormonally driven urges. They have some.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 08:09 PM
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Why can't women stop being bitchy cunts whenever they get their period and take it out on the world? Uh, thank nature and biology for that? Babe?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 07:47 PM
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No, at this point I'm asking you to explain what you're saying. I just did explain it...? I in no way concede that attraction tastes change, because I've seen the opposite much, much, MUCH more often... Dude, you don't have to 'concede' anything. I'm telling the truth. You are not under any obligation to believe me but I'm really not making an argument, I'm telling you about something I have experienced. Also, do you realize that no one here, certainly not me, is saying that because women's tast…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:57 AM
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Yeah, there's a minority of us who actively enjoy it. Sometimes it feels odd, not painful but odd, but most of the time I <3 it. Vaginas are fucking weird. I've taken dicks bigger than a speculum but the speculum hurts and the dicks don't. Or if they do it's not a bad-pain or an extreme one. For me it's def. about how turned on I am. At the gyno that's obviously not occurring + I'm usually nervous/not loving what's happening and that makes my whole body tighten up. Pretty sure that's why it hurt…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:51 AM
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You are thinking like a man, and you are skiing well and truly off-piste if you believe this. I'm pretty sure the poster you're responding to is a woman. FWIW, I think you're both right. Dick size isn't a massive issue unless it's overtly small. But a big dick is nice. I've said this before on here but it's as much psychological as it is physical, at least for me. The men I've been with have generally been average, one was noticeably smaller and two noticeably much larger. Those big dicks are ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:46 AM
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I find pap smears painful (not screaming pain but sort of inching away on the table pain) but I like my cervix getting hit bu a dick. I've always assumed this had to do with being aroused. My gyno is an old woman and not too sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 01:37 AM
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I'm on Team Yay Dick with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 01:35 AM
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Dear OP: If you don't see any value in marriage (a legitimate stance) then...don't get married. The end. There's nothing to discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:45 AM
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ENTJ. I think MBTI is an interesting thing, esp. in terms of sparking discussion, but I certainly don't take it a seriously as some seem to. Just clicked the link posted by Atlas - one of the questions: When solving a problem you would rather follow a familiar approach than seek a new one Those questions bother me. There's not enough info there. Does the old approach work? Then I'm happy to use it, less effort for me. If it doesn't work then obvs. I'd want to try a new one. So I just put 'uncert…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:39 AM
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Shut up, whore!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:22 AM
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I never said I wasn't skeptical - this is a debate board, of course I'm skeptical. But if someone is speaking to me in good faith I am perfectly able to have that discussion - I often have good-faith discussions with reds here who disagree with me. Also Imma stop replying to this comment chain now because I don't want this to turn into the usual shitshow.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:35 PM
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I find that hard to believe. I'm shocked! Something happened. Some event or circumstance. What was it? It was almost certainly losing my virginity to a huge human slab of beef. It broadened my horizons re: what I found sexually attractive in men. In my 20s I was in a 5+ year LTR with a much older guy and the same thing happened - I started to find myself attracted to older men in a way I hadn't been before. Not as strongly as to the muscley ones, but it still happened. And at this point, aren't …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:32 PM
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Some things I say are "unbelievable" to you because they don't comport with your experience. Naw, it's because they're so black and white. You're the "literally NO WOMAN EVER X" guy. You speak in what sounds like hyperbole but you seem to mean it literally. You're doing it in that thread about women's sexual tastes right now! I have a hard time believing anyone who truly believes things are so lacking in nuance. I'm perfectly capable of believing people have differing experiences to mine - that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:25 PM
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No, it doesn't change. What happens is that the girls aren't able to get the hot guy You're wrong. As an example of your wrongness, the type of man I was sexually attracted to changed wildly upon losing my virginity. As a virgin I liked popstar type pretty-boys with an edge of femininity. As a non-virgin I developed a strong taste for big/muscular/square-headed-and-jawed men. That was a drastic change in what attracted me sexually and it wasn't due to my not being able to get the femme-y boys I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:21 PM
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However, I feel this poster is attempting to make the claim that female sexuality is inherently unshallow /u/Tillytwo is this what you're trying to do? To make female sexuality seem 'unshallow'? It's not what I took from the OP and it's not what I think (this seems to be a thing around here lately - which sex is more shallow etc., not sure why, it seems pretty fucking obvious we're all entirely capable of being shallow as hell).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:12 PM
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What's a ceasefire post?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:05 PM
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Aw, she looks great. Good for her. Looks matter, everyone knows this. Her life is going to be easier now she's had this surgery and I think anyone with a deformity like hers, with the $ and will to fix it, should go ahead and do so. It would take rock fucking solid self-worth to get through life looking like this - and most of us don't have rock solid self worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 09:49 PM
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I don't "constantly assume" you're lying/embellishing/exaggerating. Sometimes I do, because you say some pretty unbelievable things. Also, there's a history with you. As in, I've interacted with you numerous times. Due to those interactions I do not believe you to be a person who is interested in anything anyone else has to say, if it disagrees with what you have to say. I have no history with the OP, nor does he make an unbelievable claim (good looking, successful men exist - that's not unbelie…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 09:43 PM
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I'll actually dig my heels in harder the more someone pushes me, even myself. Omg, me too. Including the part where I'm defying myself. I swear to god if someone ordered me to eat ice-cream and have sex with Tim Tebow my first instinctive response would be 'no, fuck you!!!'
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 08:12 PM
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the real benefit for me is getting rid of piss and vinegar. I think that these benefits (of exercise) are, at times, vastly under-rated for men. Especially young men. We need to implement adult recess for them. Go lift heavy things, run around, wrestle each other AND THEN go about your life/relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 08:10 PM
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Rationalize whatever you like, whatever makes you feel better. It's obvious I hit a nerve with that remark so I am sorry if I offended you. Dude. It actually seems like you might be the one with the hit nerves here. Why not just assume honesty for the sake of argument and respond to the OP's actual content?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 06:38 AM
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I have no idea. /u/Setconsumes said you were confused about what "you as a woman are" - I was trying to get him to explain what he meant by that, to explain what you as a woman are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:57 PM
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You know what's so weird to me? Olive Garden doesn't even have ONE Michelin star. I mean, just...wat???
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:13 PM
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Olive Garden IS a real restaurant, elitist scum!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:06 PM
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U think OP doesn't understand that she is a woman who is X years old?? Is that what you were getting at? C'mon, Setconsumes, talk to me like I'm retarded!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 08:58 PM
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people love talking about the things that make them powerful It's true, I talk a lot about my ability to pile-drive men with my big, muscle-bound arms.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 08:56 PM
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It's magic like that. Want to be a first mate? AWALT. Don't want to be a first mate? AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 08:50 PM
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You are confused about the dynamic of a relationship, what you as a woman are, I am confused too. What am I as a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 08:48 PM
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It's like when a man is all "I want to go to Applebees" and I'm all "no pls Olive Garden" and he's all "no, Applebees" and I'm all "ok." Then I win the First Mate Gold Medal Tropheeee!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 08:41 PM
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Ooh I've climbed Arthur's Seat a couple of times!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 08:37 PM
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I mean I'm up front about being needy and insecure. Do you mean you're up front here/on the internet or irl with girls? Cuz if it's the former then that's perfectly fine. But if it's the latter I have to ask...why? Again, they denied it, and took it as a challenge to "fix" me or whatever, telling me what they thought I wanted to hear. Well of course they did. What are they supposed to say? It's kind of telling that you're seeing this through a 'women are mean and fickle' lens. No, 'women' don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 08:31 PM
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I've been around here for ages and talked to you a lot! I can't tell if you think I'm new or if this is a joke/sarcasm that's totally going over my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 08:20 PM
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I have an increasingly long list of girls that lied that they'd have sex with me, and lied that they wouldn't stop wanting me...If pressed on "Are you just saying this in the moment?", they always deny it. I even had a couple girls bet money with me that they wouldn't stop wanting sex with me in the future. Then when I told them they wouldn't pay me if it turned out that I'm right, they got angry and denied that too. Alright, I have to say this. I'm not saying it to shame or insult you. These ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 08:15 PM
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This is pretty much my feeling on it. No matter your gender, a bunch of people are going to be attracted (or not attracted) to you for reasons that aren't ideal to you. That's just life and there's really no point in getting hurt or angry about it. But it doesn't mean anyone, male or female, has to love it. It also means when someone is into you in a different way or more the way you'd prefer, that's a nice thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 07:16 PM
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It's not inherently awful and everyone knows many men are attracted to women solely for their looks. But the thing is, whilst women just have to accept the reality that men are going to be giving them attention based on things like how their ass looks in a certain pair of pants (and not based on anything to do with their character or personality - and keep in mind I am not demonizing the former) - men, too, have to accept the reality that not all women are going to respond positively to that kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 06:47 PM
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But Sublime...laydees bad!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 11:25 PM
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I'm with /u/Shazoa - hypergamy doesn't exist. I'm pretty sure I've said as much on PPD before. And, if you fancy getting into this, I'm going to need a clear, concise definition of 'hypergamy' from you. If we're talking the Wikipedia definition then I a)think it exists and b)isn't inherent in female humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 09:43 PM
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It's a heuristic!!!1!1
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 09:39 PM
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Ohhh jaysusss. Women are shallow?! Women like hot dudes?! Women ON TINDER (the place to go when you want to have sex with a hot person you barely know) like hot dudes?! OP, no one is arguing with this. Women like hot men. Men like hot women. This isn't news and it isn't controversial. But there's a whole world out there outside Tinder, you know? There are a whole bunch of women who aren't on Tinder. Most of us, actually. It's not because we care soooo much about randomers not thinking we're awfu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 03:11 AM
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I'm in favour of more young men seeing prostitutes. Tyrion on GOT had the right idea with getting a couple of hookers for Joffrey in order to 'drain the poison' - it just didn't work because Joffrey was psycho. But I actually think banging hookers would really help a lot of young men with brains too clouded with excess testosterone to think straight. That shit hangs around too long and you start to get pickled and bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 12:08 AM
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I'm sure we can find and INFJ or two around here...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 12:02 AM
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I hope you don't think I was having a go at you - if anything it was more of a lighthearted chuckle at British men's expense. They're such a strange bunch of creatures. Often good/absolutely filthy in bed, though. My hypothesis is all of their repression of their animal sides comes out there. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 12:01 AM
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How hellish must it have been for those men not being able to drink with a stranger they'd just met and were explicitly planning to have sex with?? Poor bastards. How can one even be from the UK and not understand that without alcohol all British social interaction would come to a screeching halt in a cloud of excruciating awkwardness?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 11:19 PM
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I've heard a theory bandied about that women who frown upon prostitution are actually expressing anxiety that the 'price of pussy' is being devalued. Whenever I see a man around here talking about this like it's a real thing, I know I'm dealing with someone who wants, on some level, conscious or not, women to be anxious/insecure. And I am a pretty high-strung person with a worrier personality. That said, I have never worried that pussy is becoming or going to become 'devalued.' That just isn't a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 11:12 PM
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This is the internet, OP. Where the introverts rule with an iron fist. This is not going to go well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:42 PM
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'whiskey dick' Whiskey dick can actually be a good thing in some (some!) cases. I remember realizing that my ex lasted longer when he was kind of drunk. Ofc I'm not talking about when it doesn't work at all. Man, having a dick that didn't work when I wanted it to would suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:38 PM
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But at uni in particular Oh, dude. I was going to write a longer post but your use of 'uni' makes me think you're a Brit. You thought asking young British men to socialize WITHOUT alcohol was going to work???
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:36 PM
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But does making it sound so sinister actually help or hurt these men? This is just standard RP semantic tricksiness. Pick a word that already has a meaning - in this case 'dread' (meaning: 'anticipate with great apprehension or fear') and apply it to a situation where it doesn't really apply (like your relationship for example), then snicker into your sleeves about 'weak' BPers. I mean sure, if the definition of 'dread' is now 'I am attracted to my partner' then, OK, I guess every woman who is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 09:41 PM
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Only cuz you know those blankets could just go off and live in another closet at ANY TIME. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 09:24 PM
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my baby blanket is still in my closet Me too. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 09:23 PM
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the establishment that wanted war with Russia right? Do you really believe this? Like really-really?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 09:02 PM
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To your north you have Canada, and Justin Trudeau acts way more ''black'' than Obama. Wat? - A Canadian (Trudeau seems super white to me, and I'm not just talking about his skin colour)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 08:59 PM
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What are you doing? What is your life like, what is the inside of your head like, if you think the possibility of a young single woman asking a young hot dude out for a coffee - a coffee! - is a literal impossibility? PPD is so wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 07:33 PM
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A few people have said lately that sometimes posters on here like to exaggerate their positions, be hyperbolic etc. in order to make a point. Is that what you're doing or is this a completely straight-up, no-joke post?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 07:19 PM
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What percentage of men are you talking about here? Do 100% of men have the sole criteria of 'not fat'? 75%? 5%?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 07:17 PM
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it's accurate lol My "Jesus Christ" was aimed at the fucking tragic lack of standards. 'Don't be fat.' Bloody hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 08:07 AM
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"don't be fat" Jesus Christ, red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 09:13 PM
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The ladies posting Marilyn meemees on FB are almost as bad at the RPs worshiping Dan Bilzerian. OK, equally bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 09:09 PM
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lol it's not your girl brain I was being sarcastic, seeing as how i'm on PPD. You know, where gurls are dummmm! 1.Yes! 100% a man's looks matters. I'm not claiming they don't. I'm commenting on the crazy focus. I know what it's done to women. I don't think men should head down the same rabbit hole. Women are trying to pull themselves out and that's a good thing. Improve your looks, yes, but don't obsess about what the gender of your desire likes. Oh yeah, that little caveat from me was meant to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 09:04 PM
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Basically, if your words and the meanings of those words are hostile (or kind or wacky or playful or intelligent or etc. etc.) I'm just going to take them as such. I'd never respond to anyone if I was frozen with 'but what if they're just saying this and they don't really mean it?'
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:24 PM
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I agree. I think the 'lookism' crowd are generally on the wrong track (not that looks don't matter, but that looks aren't primary, especially in relationships). But instead of 'personality', I would say 'masculinity', or, at least, those traits traditionally associated with masculinity, such as ambition, assertiveness, leadership, confidence, resourcefulness, charisma, etc. (I'm thinking of the four main masculine archetypes here) Sure - your second point is kind of semantic, too. I mean, person…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:22 PM
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How do I know? I don't. How do I know these guys aren't Nobel prize winning underwear models? I don't. This is the internet. The only thing we have to go on is words from strangers and the words from RP strangers here are more hostile than I have ever even close to experienced from any group irl. Actually scratch that, the only other group I think of is the very vocal feminists at university. Both groups just seem super invested in 'the other side are evil and we are good.'
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 07:50 PM
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Yeah, this would be awesome. Just imagine all those disgusting...oh god...sluts weeping with shame as they walked down the aisle in their black dresses, symbolizing their own...yeahhh...tarnished...mmm...status. Think of their...yeah, harder...humiliation! The moment that it finally...fuck, fuck, fuck...sank in...just how worthless OH MY GOD...they were... Finish me off, OP...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 12:24 AM
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GTFO with your nuance, this is PPD!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 10:09 PM
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Hey OP, I meant to reply to your other recent thread (I pretty much agreed with your position entirely) but then i read the responses and got a frustrated and a sad and didn't. So I will respond to this one before it gets too crowded. Whilst I think you're right that this heavy focus can be damaging, especially to certain personality types, I personally come at it from the POV of it simply being wrong (i.e. incorrect, not morally wrong). Now, before panties start bunching, let me be very clear: …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 10:02 PM
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anti-transpirant Does this prevent anything from happening? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 04:37 PM
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based on how ladylike she's acting CHAV SHAMING
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 11:55 PM
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I AM NOT DOING THIS WITH YOU AGAIN. I HAVE PUPPER MEMES TO ATTEND TO.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 11:47 PM
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You really are 'that guy,' you know that? You can keep telling women that what they feel and/or think is wrong, LewisCross. You can even do it until the cows come home. But you're still going to be wrong, no matter how many times you repeat yourself. I'm totally baffled by you. You don't even understand how arrogant you're being with this 'no, it only counts cuz he's hot' (FTR, the dudes I am talking about are not in an industry where good looks are absolutely necessary, and most of them are ent…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 11:42 PM
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Yeah, I should have been more clear. Did ALL these dudes marry similar age and accomplishment women? No. One recently married a 35 yo (at 45 himself) and another who openly admits he won't date anyone over 30. As long as I've known him he has moved from one twenty-something model to another, always in love at first and then, a few months later, they hate each other and break-up. He's a mess. A very rich, very successful mess, but a mess. Which leads me to my next point... People in this thread t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 11:23 PM
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I know, it's come so early this year. I am laying down my layer of winter blubber (THANK YOU HAAGEN DAZ) and will not be emerging until April.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 11:08 PM
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Why do you hate Jesus? Girl, Christmas is awesome and I fully support going full Xmas-retard no later than Nov. 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 09:26 PM
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I have alfa-ed wrong. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 08:45 PM
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OP, I feel this post. It has been a constant in my experience that men who are confident and secure within themselves overwhelmingly treat other people, including women, with (non-supplicating, because this is PPD and the difference between 'kind' and 'supplicating' isn't always recognized) kindness and respect. This is often why I'm semi-baffled by the 'what? you think we're unattractive irl???' response from (SOME) RPs here. YES I think you're unattractive irl. Why? You seem to be brimming ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 08:41 PM
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It's the infant children of rival men, obvs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 08:14 PM
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That's a go too insult from some of you and it's quite annoying. Agreed, I am beyond sick of this weasel-line.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 08:13 PM
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Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 06:50 AM
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feminine imperative shaming tactic Oh please. And What you are saying is you like men with femininity, and lack displays of direct power and strength isn't a red-pill imperative 'omg u like girly-men!' shaming tactic?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 10:42 PM
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Wait, what? Are we talking about simple physical strength vs weakness here? I mean, obviously a child is physically weaker than a UFC fighter, no one is arguing otherwise. I think what others are talking about is more like the difference between: the guy who starts throwing punches because a stranger looked at him funny and the guy who might step up to physically defend his weaker friend from the aforementioned douche The former is weak af, the latter is strong/courageous/masculine. From my pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 10:40 PM
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Wtf. Rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 10:22 PM
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I'm totally, 100% different from everyone else in my own unique way that only I understand. Me too!!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 10:16 PM
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If a meta-study correlating these traits in women with poorer mental health came out, would you believe it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 08:22 PM
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If she has a track record of dating athletes, she is unlikely to have much in common with me Omg.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 01:26 AM
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'Business class' - in 2016 it's a good thing. Times change amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 08:59 PM
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What's because the movie has no happy ending? Is that your defense of the movie? It has no happy ending and therefore criticisms are invalid (I don't know if you're saying this, btw, I'm asking if you are)? That movie was the worst kind of popular entertainment. Just straight-up pandering, and imo it was pandering to a heavily blue pill culture, not a RP culture at all. One of those movies that people get to see and then feel all good about themselves because they already realize all the truths …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 09:07 PM
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I'm genuinely surprised you think that movie is RP. I think I get it, a bit - he starts working out, stops caring about getting beer on the sofa, realizes his wife is just as much a lazy caricature as he is etc., right? But then he doesn't fuck the girl. Not only does he not fuck her, he develops instant fatherly feelings towards her and is horrified by the fact that he did want to fuck her. I hate that movie so much, oh my god. Everyone in it is a lazy, shitty stereotype. The nice, liberal gay …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 08:56 PM
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I think the normal world wants to keep it a secret as, IMO, people are generally embarrassed about tease - flirting - it's something they know they do but don't want to analyze. I think "they want to keep it a secret" is pretty OTT. We all live in our little bubbles to some extent. The stuff you're talking about - the flirting, the teasing etc. - is entirely normal and it has been for me since I was very young (and FWIW, I never asked anyone how to flirt and no one ever told me). Reading posts l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 08:42 PM
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American Beauty? UUUUUUUGH. Liking that movie is bad. Not as bad as liking Crash but still, like, not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 07:22 PM
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I'm happy because someone else knows who the Famous Five are!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 11:28 PM
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I just watched this whole thing and have developed a massive instantaneous crush on one of them. Omg.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 11:27 PM
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What a disappointing exchange. I don't like it when people just hop right onto the plate and allow themselves to get eaten for breakfast but here we are. Re: "Men and women are different" - yes, yes, so agreed with your response to this meaningless assertion. Are men and women different? Yes. For example, men have testicles and women have ovaries. Different! But men and women are also the same. Men need oxygen to survive, so do women. The same! (and we can do this with non-physical/non-biologica…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 10:47 PM
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Julian from The Famous Five is the ultimate alpha and I want to marry him and bake him pies all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 08:23 PM
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No - I have tried their Snow Leopard (and it was a fail) so maybe I'll try to get my hands on the Snow Bunny. Thanks. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 07:59 PM
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...then I criticise that this change happens too late. Ah, OK, you're specifically talking about <18. Got it now. With this theoretical thinking it doesn't even matter that I can't come up with a suggestion of what society should do exactly It's like a simple formula: Society provides something at age 18 that makes boys become attractive. Why shouldn't society be able to provide something similar at age 15? Why shouldn't society do this? I don't know. I don't necessarily think society should or …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 07:51 PM
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They married basic men and had basic babies. They still do, it just happens later for both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 09:32 PM
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Your first response to me was unclear. I asked for clarification (re: sappy and spineless) and it was still unclear. WHY NOT just clarify what you meant instead? If there was a miscommunication, why not just identify/explain it and then we can move on to the actual meat of the discussion? If your response wasn't the usual patronizing shut-down, why not just...you know...tell me what is was?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 09:30 PM
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Oh so this is just the usual patronizing shut-down? Right, ok. Come on, man. There's actual interesting conversation happening on PPD. Why not actually participate?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 09:22 PM
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I really am being open-hearted with most of the stuff I bring up here at PPD. I know, I can tell. It's rare and appreciated. Good faith is so useful. As for the rest of your post - first of all I hope you know I'm using 'virgin walk' because the other poster did - it's sort of a stand-in, I'm not actually positing that virgin walk differently. Second of all, are you saying, when you say 'it' happens to a lot/majority of boys, that they change at some point between 16-20 and that it's noticeable …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 09:17 PM
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Are you telling me to stop being sappy and spineless or are you saying men in general should stop being/not be sappy and spineless?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 09:06 PM
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This is a good example of the exact wrong reaction to what that guy is saying. And when I say 'wrong' I mean 'bad for the person having the reaction.' And for the record, this post from me is not being posted out of mean-spiritedness. There are so many times on PPD when someone says something insightful, something that could be genuinely useful, and then the responses just shut it down in a way that isn't going to help the responders at all. There is good info in this conversation, solid stuff. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 08:08 PM
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it's like you've got summer break and afterwards the nerd comes back as a still nerdy hipster, but there is this confident fire in his eyes and his way of walking doesn't attract bullies anymore. Omg. I actually remember this, and I remember noticing it at the time. It was the summer between Grade 11 and Grade 12 (with some the previous summer). The boys - and here I'm talking about the vast majority of them, not the few super popular guys who were already obviously getting laid - came back diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 08:06 PM
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The virgin walk is a cause for their virginity, but not the other way around. Yes, thank-you, this is a very important point and it relates to /u/Guitarsaregettingold 's OP. There seems to be something going on here, a framing of a discussion as 'men are inexperienced because of bad luck but they are good guys' vs 'men are inexperienced because they have off-putting personalities and are subject to toxic masculinity'. It isn't either or. It can be both - and we'd have to get down to individuals …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 07:57 PM
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or didnt have siblings of the opposite gender I was wondering if anyone was going to bring this up. I think opposite-sex siblings are a big deal when it comes to learning in a natural, years-long and non-sexual context re: dealing with the opposite sex. I am a sister of sisters and when I was in my late teens I definitely went through a real learning process with men my age that reminded me in some ways of the way men here at PPD seem to think about women. It was the process of learning that oh,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 07:32 PM
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Yeah, this is an endless discussion here at PPD. We seem to have 2 rough camps - masculinity as violent, borderline uncontrolled aggression (the most masculine men as violent thugs and criminals) vs masculinity as - well, not that. For example, like you I find loss of control (especially frequent and generally unprovoked - I mean I'm not talking about losing it when someone at work punches you in the dick for no reason) distinctly unmasculine. And others find it to be almost the definition of it…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 06:12 AM
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They're openly claiming correlation, not causation. That's the start-point of a conversation, one that could go either way. Nothing in that link explicitly speaks to 'western society is shitting on men and this is causing mental illness in men.' Also, I thought meta-reviews were actually though of as highly useful/robust, esp. in comparison to single studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 06:05 AM
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As someone who grew up in a traditional farm town I don't see most of these traits as masculine, but rather as the qualities of a punk Agreed. Before we even begin to discuss this study we need to be clear about our definitions of 'masculinity'.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 05:58 AM
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Correlation does not imply causation. This is a study and it means that they took information from other sources and analysed it to get to this conclusion. That part you quoted is actually the researchers explicitly saying they're talking about correlation and not clear causation. That's them saying it right there. It's specifically not them saying "adherence to masculine norms x, y and z is causal re: poor mental health in men." Furthermore, when the approach implies men being masculine is toxi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 05:56 AM
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part of the reason is I can't imagine having to maintain relationships with more than one woman at a time. Ha, i always want to say this when I hear young men talking about how great it would be to have a harem of gfs. Dude, you have NO IDEA how much work that would be!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 09:34 PM
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I have never noticed a correlation between male hotness levels and willingness to commit, either. Like the players I've been friends with weren't noticeably better looking than the non-players - in fact just anecdotally, they were actually less attractive (lookswise only, and none of them were openly fugly).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 09:28 PM
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I find men care a great deal about what other men think, in general. Agreed. I'm actually kind of mindblown that a man would be claiming otherwise. Now, I know this doesn't apply to 100% of all male humans but the validation and envy caused specifically by being with an extremely hot partner is almost entirely male, imo. I care what my female friends think of my partner. I don't want them to think he's stupid or asshole-ish or treats me badly. But I honestly don't care if they think he's hot or …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 09:24 PM
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Yep, it does. I actually have to put fucking Vaseline (straight petroleum jelly) on parts of my face when it gets to be January and the arctic winds are making my eyelashes stick together. This makes me a bad Canadian but: fuck winter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 09:04 PM
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I sometimes use the Laura Mercier tinted moisturizer in a shade darker than my natural tone during the summer - blend it down the neck etc., and it works pretty well. In the winter, though, it just looks 'off' somehow, obviously fake/muddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 09:00 PM
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I go pink first, then brown - even the pink looks ok (I am not talking about that bright red lobster look you sometimes see in any sunny place that English ppl travel to - I don't let myself get that burned) but the brown just...looks way better than the pink or the natural. I would wear bronzer if the a decent one existed, even with the pain in the ass-ness of having to apply it to every exposed inch and then worrying about it getting on your clothes. But it doesn't exist so it's not a current …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 08:54 PM
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I mean, yay, but the fact is I just look better with some colour than I do without. I don't tan at all (due to the damage + the fact that I'm vain af) but the times I've ended up tan just from being outdoors, even with sunscreen, everyone is always full of compliments. The best one is 'you look so healthy!' - ha ha, makes me wonder if i always look like a consumptive when I'm my natural shade of translucent/light-blue. I'm frustrated by the fact that no one seems to have managed to invent a bron…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 08:44 PM
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Yes, everyone actually IS a special snowflake.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 06:51 PM
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I'm curious as to what your solution would be in terms of making the SMP more 'fair' - in a practical sense. I don't see how that wouldn't involve requiring people to have sex with/marry people they are not attracted to. Would it? Or does it involve somehow changing what people are attracted to? Because neither of those things sound realistic and the second one is arguably impossible. Do you think otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 08:39 PM
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Yeah but being organized is awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 08:28 PM
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i am not such a fan of non stick but that is me. Me neither, refuse to own it. Most of my pots and pans are Demeyere (built up over the past few years a piece or two at a time). I forgot I had water boiling once, it burned dry and stayed there on high heat for an hour and my Demeyere saucepan didn't even blink. No warping etc. AN HOUR. And yes, I too harbour dark fantasies about copper cookware.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 02:54 AM
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I was joking. Like on Top Gear.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 02:51 AM
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This is for gifts tho so it has to be pre-Xmas. They've been having sales for a couple of weeks now (I literally get about 4 emails a day from them) but I'm holding off to see if they come up with anything worthwhile next week. I did need to get a new half-sheet pan but then they made me mad with their BS so I went to Amazon. And I have too much cookware as it is so no nice things for me. I do like All Clad, though. Perhaps I can convince myself I need a pasta insert or a sauteuse?? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 01:44 AM
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I'd advise you to home-make some preserves or cookies or something but something tells me you're not that type (maggots don't have hands and therefore cannot prepare food - CALLBACK!). Perhaps you could threaten to cut off the sex if your gf doesn't do it for you??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 01:36 AM
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Is everyone finished their Xmas shopping? What did you get? What are you asking Santa for? I have asked very nicely for Tim Tebow but after last year's complete failure to deliver any sportsball players, my hopes aren't that high anymore when it comes to Santa. Also fuck you Williams Sonoma. Don't tell me I'm 'saving' 50% when your 50% off price is the same as everyone else's full price. They do this all year round, too, the utter dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 08:21 PM
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Grilled cheese isn't fun, grilled cheese isn't exciting. Wat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 07:13 PM
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I believe virtue signalling exists, on both sides (and yeah, we can quibble about semantics if we want but I think most people reading this will know what I mean). I also believe that the accusation of virtue signalling can and often is a bad-faith (and very effective) way to shut down discussion. On this topic I think there are two basic kinds of people. People who are genuinely interested in discussion and the differing opinions of others and people who are...not. The latter group basically wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 08:35 PM
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Recently discovered subreddit: /r/SantasLittleHelpers Got a few extra bucks? Help out the children in families having a tough time of it this Christmas - lots of things on those wishlists are under $15.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 07:57 PM
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Goddamnit nomdeplume!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 10:39 PM
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Actually, according to some experts, it actually is. Do you have a link? (this is not a challenge, I just want to read something interesting today)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 09:32 PM
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I...didn't say there was?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 08:09 PM
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So what you're indicating is that personality and character issues serve as DISQUALIFIERS. Those are reasons why a man would get rejected by a woman... AFTER he has passed the initial stage of attraction. You should read my other responses in this thread. Are there situations in which what you said above is true? Yes, certainly. I would single out 'pick-up' type environments especially. Bars, clubs. Women in those places know they're going to get hit on, they know why they're getting hit on (dud…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 07:59 PM
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It's mind-boggling to me that people could compare 'looking at still photos of strangers online' to 'meeting and getting to know actual human irl.' Is this a gender thing? Is looking at still photos of women online the same as meeting and interacting with women irl to men? In some ways I think it might be, especially with young and sexually frustrated men. They see a woman and their brain is in instant 'fuck/would not fuck' mode. I don't think they understand that for women, the vast majority of…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 07:34 PM
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You sound like someone who's completely convinced their take on a situation is correct. You're telling me what's going on in my head. You're telling me how I react to men. How do you know? When you are making these choices, your mind has already made the choices that I am talking about unconsciously. Have you never experienced being wrong about a first impression? Have you never met a very attractive person only to be disappointed or put off when you get to know them? Have you never met an unatt…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 07:29 PM
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People want to deny it so much that certain physical traits play a key role in attraction, but it does. I don't want to deny this and honestly, I rarely see bloops saying looks don't matter. They obviously do - a lot, especially in cold-approach/first-impression situations. But I do think this: The problem is not in their character/personality ...is pretty wrong. Your 5 foot friend is a bit of an outlier. He has a large issue re: his height. He's the male equivalent of a 300lb. woman. Most men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 07:19 PM
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It doesn't feel like happiness, I have to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 07:10 PM
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I am not going to deny that a person being good-looking has a hand-up on social interactions, but what all of this data leaves out is the whole concept of first impressions vs actually knowing someone. Yes, genetically blessed people will benefit from positive assumptions upon first meeting someone. But who a person is matters. That hot new girl at work isn't going to be so fawned over 6 weeks later when everyone realizes she's a lazy bitch (note: not all hot girls are lazy bitches, that is not …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 07:06 PM
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That poster is right, though. You often refuse to engage and you're doing it here. I don't agree with /u/80_20 either but it seems like you're just being trolly with these non-responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 07:01 PM
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Bill Clinton is hot af.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 09:57 PM
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I also usually point out that Trump and Putin in a room will result in nuclear winter. I actually think that's much more likely to result in a very cowed-looking Trump shuffling out to the press conference all "whatever that guy says, I'm cool, fuck NATO.'
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 09:30 PM
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How many of those animals are French-speaking? Because imma get REAL MAD if it's none.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 09:27 PM
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Oh my god. trembling
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 09:26 PM
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OK. You are not a person I think of as particularly interested in what others have to say, but if you say you are, OK. I don't have access to your head - in fact it's your seeming belief that you have access to other's heads that often causes me to think you're not really interested in their thoughts. Disagreement is perfectly fine and acceptable - esp. here. But I'm done with the back and forth, (before it goes sour again). Have a good day/night, LC. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 10:27 PM
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I agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 10:22 PM
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How many times do I have to say "trait X in isolation is not enough to generate attraction"? Goods looks alone are not enough, either. Nor is confidence. Or dominance (and i suspect you and I have wildly different ideas on what constitutes 'dominance' anyway). No trait, in isolation, is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 10:07 PM
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How many times do I have to say "trait X in isolation is not enough to generate attraction"? Goods looks alone are not enough, either. Nor is confidence. Or dominance (and i suspect you and I have wildly different ideas on what constitutes 'dominance' anyway). No trait, in isolation, is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 10:07 PM
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It is not. Yes it is. For me, it is. There are a list of traits that increase the odds that I am going to want to fuck a man. Magnanimity is one of them. And my other thread, dude, I was clear that I was coming from a personal/1-person perspective. I do find magnanimity to be one of the main attractive traits a man can have. It's huge. And we should be able to discuss Trait X or Trait Y without people immediately jumping to 'oh this person thinks ONLY this trait, in isolation, is attractive' - w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 09:56 PM
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"dumb bitch! Get up! Get the fuck up and get your shit together bitch!" So yeah, I'd recommend being the dominate/borderline abusive type of guy than the kind and compassionate type of guy. Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 09:46 PM
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I mean it in these sense of you being the one who jumps immediately from someone saying, for example: "kindness is attractive" to "kindness in isolation of all other traits is attractive." You are the one who assumes these traits are being discussed as if they were in isolation. That's not how it works. That's not how human beings work. It's not how we are. Also, dude, goddamn. Have you ever even considered not immediately ratcheting up a conversation to 'super hostile' at the earliest possible …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 09:35 PM
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You're the one who talks about things/traits people have in a 'vacuum.' A man cannot be "magnanimous" as his ONLY desirable trait and expect to sexually attract women. A man cannot be the living embodiment of a sole trait and expect to attract women. The reason for this is that this isn't how people are. No one human being is a single trait and no others. No one is saying 'be maganimous/dominant/playful/submissive/cruel/hot/muscular etc. etc. etc.' and that alone will be enough to get women on y…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 09:29 PM
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And how would one go about proving you wrong? You've just straight-up said that the women who DO find this attractive are lying. That it's. No consideration, just 'they're lying.' It's insulting to ask people to go to the effort of trying to change your mind when that's the response. You know what I think? I think posters like you have no idea what kindness and compassion actually are. You don't know what the words mean. You don't know what those things look like when put into practice. You've n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 09:18 PM
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You know what I've noticed? Some people are really invested in magnanimity (which could be argued to include kindness and compassion) not being attractive to women. I wonder why. Of course they will say "because it isn't attractive to women" - an immediate and total dismissal, in spite of all the women who come out of the woodwork to say no, actually, that totally attracted me to my bf/husband etc. I'm the same. That shit is attractive. It increases attraction. It can even create it (for me). So…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 09:13 PM
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If your view can't be changed...why are you posting? I really loathe these 'give me a reason not to believe this thing I believe with 100% certainty' posts, they never lead to anything interesting. If no one can change your mind, why are you even posting?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 09:01 PM
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Then why are you even posting this? If your V can't be C'ed...wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 08:56 PM
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My last point I blame his mom for feeding him I'm so curious about what's actually going on with people like the dude in the vid. Like, why is he like that? Is it parenting? Is it innate? I might make a longer post in reply to OP but I have to say my immediate/within-5-secs-of-watching/listening to-him reaction was of the strong, visceral 'oh my god NO, blurgh, no, no, no' variety. What's going on there? Is this a spoiled, sheltered child all grown up? Someone on the spectrum? Someone so introve…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 08:45 PM
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Sorry, I meant 'as a man.' Should have been clearer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 11:50 PM
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Maybe it is, OP. For some reason, though, a man getting validation from sex/being desired comes off as kind of feminine to me. And when i say 'getting validation' i mean it in the sense of it being his primary way to validate his worth as a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 10:25 PM
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So much hostility. Does any part of you think that kind of hostile approach to life/the world/other people is going to help you live a good life? Are you going to come back at me with everything you've suffered? And if you are, is it because you assume I don't give a flying fuck about it and think it wasn't really suffering anyway and you did it to yourself and it doesn't even count? Because I don't think that. I think people who have suffered (and that's a lot of us - your pain is valid and it …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 09:11 PM
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You are a debating god. Those arguments, dayum. Yeah but what's the point anymore? I think hypergamy (the way RP uses the word) as exclusively female is BS. I think AF/BB as exclusively female is BS (as well as disagreeing with it at the core). But that convo is going nowhere with a red pill. It is such a fundamental disagreement, one I've had repeatedly here, and no one has changed my mind (nor I theirs, as far as I'm aware). What would be the purpose of rehashing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 08:42 PM
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Disagreement = you don't understand. Good faith = for pussies. Do you know what I would love? I would love (love!) to be able to have good conversation here. I would love to be able to read comments like yours re: art vs science in dating and not know, with 100% certainty, that it is instantly going to devolve into 'you're stupid' fuckery and hostility. But that isn't going to happen, because a lot of the people who post here are less interested in conversation (and less able to carry one out) t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 08:37 PM
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Stop thinking of her as someone to fuck and start thinking of her as someone who might provide a decent conversation. This is doable and excellent advice. None of the fuckups here are gonna even consider it, but still...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 08:04 PM
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Yeah, Edward Cullen is hot. And my 'type' is generally masculine/muscular.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 07:33 PM
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I can tell you that "be cool" is distinct from "be passive" or "be deferential" or "be her friend" or "be unassertive." Oh it definitely is (distinct). It's interesting, I've never really had to give this enough thought to put into words but now I'm trying it's a bit difficult. It is correct to say, for me (and maybe for women like me and your wife) that 'be cool' is specifically NOT about wanting men to be deferential/passive/supplicating. Those traits aren't a neutral, they're a negative in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 09:09 PM
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And she was often frustrated and disappointed at having to do so, since oftentimes they were hot enough to really spark her interest. God, yes, this. It's so deflating to meet a hot dude and then have to witness him letting himself down. I'm often cheering for them. Please be cool, please be cool etc. And the they're lame and I'm all 'meh.'
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:10 PM
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Yes, it really is. It's pretty rare. I don't think it is, so we differ there. I definitely don't think it's so rare as to justify immediate disbelief when a stranger reports it. So stating disbelief = not engaging in good faith. Yeah, that is bad faith. There is no point in debating with someone if you're simply going to disbelieve anything they say that goes against your own position/argument. The only person giving themselves away here is you. Go take a break from Reddit. This isn't necessary,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 08:12 PM
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This is exactly how I feel, too. An automatic no is someone who is immediately and obviously offputting. The vast majority of men are neutral when I first meet them, I am not thinking of them in a sexual way (either yes or no). And a small percentage of them are hot enough to be immediate yeses (very small, I would put it at easily less than 1% of them).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 08:09 PM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 07:36 PM
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And I'm the King of England! You give yourself away with comments like this. This is one woman talking about her relationship. Is it really that unbelievable that a given man could be more emotional than a given woman? Why do you even engage if you aren't willing to do so in good faith? It's not like she claimed he was an alien from Mars.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 07:33 PM
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Some things are sacred. Hot people are one of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 08:19 PM
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No, Tim and Wayne are still co-#1s. For some reason I thought this thread was about actors (on re-reading the title I see it was not and that I'm a div), though, so I went for actors. I love all of my imaginary boyfriends eeeeequallyyyyyyyyy!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 08:07 PM
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Hmmm. I was not prepared for questioning. I dunno, maybe a pair of high-waisted jeans? Some hipster glasses? Uses a hoverboard to get around? And I'm with you on kitten heels. So fug.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 07:51 PM
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I think I saw a thread on Blue Pill months ago where they posted pics and I remember them being mostly make-up free. Could be wrong. I think of BP women as kind of 'wholesome' in their look, which is at odds with the RP idea of them as tattooed, purple-haired fat activists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 07:50 PM
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I'm tempted to give the easy answer here and go with 'no I would never hang with gross red pillers ew' but the truth is, it's not about what people believe, it's about how they are. I like to have conversation. I like to have it with smart, interesting people who don't get buttmad and start chucking insults when someone disagrees with them. I like to have it with people who are actually interested in the topic at hand and our differences of opinion rather than those who are more interested in mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 07:48 PM
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Jack O'Connell Perfectly fulfills my blue eyed/dark haired/white boy/chavvy brief. His face is perfect. Jack O'Connell Chav-hot. Jack O'Connell This guys facial structure (jawline, cheekbones) is insanely attractive to me. Jack O'Connell (allow time for specific picture to load - included because I like it when men give me this look) Others: Charlie Hunnam, Gaspard Ulliel. I think I like the strong jawline + dimples combo in those two.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 07:22 PM
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He has aged so badly. It's a tragedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 06:59 PM
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I only fancy Jason Momoa in that role. But I fancy him a lot in that role.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 06:54 PM
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All answers based on visuals in my head - don't know where they came from, have no actual info on what any of these ppl look like. BPW: Make-up free (or very little make-up), straight-up-and-down bodies, wear chunky kitten heels to be 'fancy.' Low-intensity hipster touches but not full on hipster. RPW: More styled than BPW but about 5 years out of date, dishwater blonde, mom-bod. Wears long skirts and bad bras. RPM: Skinny bodies. Long, skinny dicks. Try-hard facial hair. Awkward body language. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 03:51 AM
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I can't believe anyone would even argue with the idea that porn had a major, major influence on the 'totally bald' trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 05:42 PM
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she threatened to stop if I talked again If that was a real threat (i.e. not joking) I hope you immediately kicked her ass out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 05:30 PM
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men in general are abusive pieces of shit Yeah, that's not what she said at all. Sigh. There ARE men who are abusive pieces of shit. Not all of them. There are women who are abusive pieces of shit. Not all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 06:54 AM
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OP, can I ask what you want when you go to a woman with a problem? Do you want her to listen/empathize or do you want her to offer solutions? Or maybe you don't go to women/your wife with problems (I saw a comment from you that said as much)? I have male friends who talk about problems with me, it's common. Same thing with boyfriends. If asked I would say men are slightly more likely to be OK with 'problem-solving' responses than women but a lot of the time they just want to blow off steam, too.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 07:43 PM
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Yeah, I got ya. It's weird cuz I'm actually a pretty direct communicator in non-sex situations. For some reason I enjoy being ambiguous about my comms when it comes to sex. I'm pretty sure this is about triggering him (in a good way) and seeing what happens from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 06:43 PM
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I admit I'd be butthurt. If it was a one-time thing I'd get the fuck over it. But I couldn't be in a relationship with a man who had a lower sex drive than me as a long-term thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 06:37 PM
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I don't play hour long games to entice someone into sex But that's fun! I love doing that. (not saying you're wrong, btw, I'm actually interested by all the different responses from the women here - I am aware that not everyone enjoys what I enjoy)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 06:36 PM
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Are you talking about within a relationship or a casual sex scenario? Because within a relationship covert initiation happens a lot from my end. My bf used to say he knew when I wanted it from the tone in my voice when I said his name. It's not calculated, I'm not going through an actual thought process of 'hm, I feel like some D, I'll say his name in this particular way and hope he gets the message' - it kinda just happens. I only noticed it because he noticed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 06:33 PM
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You know, I am definitely more put off by a man who cares about having a high N-count (whether or not he has one) than I am by an actual high N-count (barring insanity level numbers, of course).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 04:26 AM
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It's funny how this exchange illustrates exactly what you're talking about. If someone handed me this back and forth and asked me to ID the more insecure man, I'd pick that other guy, easily. That defensiveness I see from RP, the sensitivity, not everyone is like me but goddamn does that scream 'not alpha.' I actually feel mean saying that but it's my genuine reaction and it boggles my mind that they're actually instructing other men to be this way. And that Council of Captains stuff, if real, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 04:55 AM
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Agreed. It's not just details, either. The differing ideas here re: what is 'alpha' are often so different as to be opposites. Trump is a good example - some here think he's the definition of alpha male. Others (myself included) see him as an anti-alpha male. It's kind of impossible to talk about these things without agreement on the basic terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 11:16 PM
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I would laugh at your joke if I still had the capacity to laugh. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:38 PM
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The other mods beat my sense of humour out of me upon my em-moddening.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:33 PM
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OP, can you remove the sentence that ends with "big cock"? This is gonna be a better conversation without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:21 PM
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A number of women on PPD have stated they've never been asked N-count. I never have.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 06:28 PM
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It's another one of those things that a lot of us here just seem to have accepted. "Women slut-shame other women more than men do." Oh? Really? I'm like you - I don't think I've ever actually witnessed slut-shaming in my real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 06:03 PM
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Just wanted to chime in here and agree with you, as futile as the gesture is round these parts. I reject AF/BB as a common thing that women do. I reject that a majority of women choose to marry men they are barely sexually attracted to. And I believe that a 20-something singleton of either gender is going to have very different priorities in a partner than a 30-something marriage/settling-minded person (again, of either gender).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 10:47 PM
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Thank you. For real. The 'being understood' is much appreciated in threads like this. wipes brow
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 10:32 PM
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Have you read all my responses in this thread? I have said it a couple of times now and I'll say it again: I do not believe that a lack of base sexual attraction to one's husband never plays a role in female lack of desire for sex with said husband. That's not bullshit. That's actually what I believe. I don't think the OP is 100% wrong. My opinion on this boils down to things I have already articulated in this thread: if someone in a relationship has a big problem, then you both have a big probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 10:28 PM
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Only one of the people in this conversation has out-of-hand dismissed the other side's opinion as "bullshit." If I ever do that - if I ever tell you what your opinion is bullshit based on no more evidence than I myself can provide, you are absolutely free to come back at me with my own words. Except that's not going to happen, because I recognize that my opinion does not necessarily = The Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 10:06 PM
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What are you doing? What part of you thinks "observations of others lives and relationships + convos with others" re: this topic somehow isn't included in "my experiences"? No one lives in a bubble. Look, I know you don't like this, but reasonable people have to accept that others are not always going to agree with them, and that this does not automatically mean that those people who disagree are wrong/misinformed/casting a shallow net for things upon which to build personal beliefs. This is ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 09:38 PM
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In another thread someone called this "the truest truism there is". In your experience, do you agree? Ha, I had exactly the same reaction to that quote. coughbullshitcough And this is such a large topic. I'm sometimes loathe to get into large topics, or to speak more in a 'musing' way here than a decisive way (musing tends not to go over well at PPD) but, I mean, on this I basically think on an inherent character level the vast, vast majority of people don't change. But circumstances change, oft…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 08:06 PM
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I have, throughout this thread, repeatedly emphasized that BOTH men and women need to, ideally, be aware of things they can do to help the situation or avoid it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 07:33 PM
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I'm not even saying LC is 100% wrong. I'm saying he's a)not looking at the full picture, b)not looking at both sides and b)is heavily affected by human solippybippy. Ensuring your wife wants to bang you - never a bad idea. Not super comfortable with dreading a post-partum woman but we can't agree on everything and it's entirely possible/probable you don't mean 'dread' in the 'make her think you're going to bang other women unless she puts out 4x a week after having just given birth.'
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 06:32 PM
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I said this to LC and I'll say it to you so I'm clear: I do NOT think women permanently and completely losing attraction towards their husbands post childbirth is the natural order of things. I don't think this happens to anything like all women, and those it does happen to it's probably temporary. OK but if women are "full agents", aren't we saying that she should have the presence of mind to be aware of this possible pitfall and prepare for it? Sure, in an ideal world we all have the presence …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 06:21 PM
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And "because kids" is a bullshit copout. Like I said And like I said - this is why you will never resolve the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 06:07 PM
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Is it OK for mods to personally attack posters now? Report it if you have a problem with it, I'll leave it for another mod to remove or not. It wasn't intended as a personal attack and is my actual belief. Is it OK for mods to personally attack posters now? I never claimed, and do not believe, that 100% of women lose attraction for their husbands post childbirth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 06:06 PM
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Stop it. Consider this an official warning.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 05:59 PM
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Then maybe that sea change shouldn't happen. This is a literal impossibility. It does happen. Nature makes it happen. it's a bullshit cop out. There it is. Right there. THAT is the problem. Anybody who responds to the actual feelings and opinions of another human being on an emotionally complex and murky issue with "no, that's bullshit" has kneecapped themselves - and prevented the possibility of resolution - at the starting gate. You've always been like this, for as long as I've spoken with you…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 05:46 PM
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Source/evidence/factual basis: my life, relationships and experience. My good faith in this discussion. Exactly the same as your sources/evidence/factual basis. No one is going to be able to 'prove' anyone else wrong in this convo, so we don't even have to go there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 05:38 PM
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What's interesting about these convos is how the issue plays out even between internet strangers. Some people have the ability to get their heads out of their asses/see another perspective. Some don't. The OP is so insistent that how he sees it is how it is. And that it the problem, right there. 'How I see it is how it is.' It doesn't even matter what 'it' is! This isn't about some dude not getting laid or some woman feeling unappreciated - those are symptoms. They are fixable. But they are only…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 05:36 PM
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I'm not as convinced as you are about men being total dunderheads about child care. I don't think men are dunderheads about childcare in the sense of not doing any. I agree that men do more now and are more involved in their kid's upbringing than they were in the past. What I don't think a lot of men get is the huge sea-change that occurs in a lot of women upon the birth of a child. It's funny, I don't even have kids of my own but I've worked as a nanny (sole-carer of a newborn, which anyone who…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 05:24 PM
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Well, I disagree but yeah, there's no point in going further. We disagree. Whoop.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 05:06 PM
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Is this common? Define 'common.' Or don't, because I'm pretty sure I believe this to be much less common than you do. Does the scenario you described happen? I'm sure it happens. I could come up with random scenarios as to why Marriage X failed, too, but it all hinges on how common it is. Is this off base? What would you add? What is correct or incorrect about this, in your opinions? A few things, here. A number of RPs seem, imo, to mistakenly gloss over the addition of children to a marriage/re…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 05:02 PM
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Dude, what are you doing? If two other posters want to discuss a specific thing an OP inspired, let them. Stop it with the accusations of 'emotionality' already, it's BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 04:35 PM
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But I am not alive to pleasure some lady. Does not compute.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 08:54 PM
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I think they're scared of everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:42 PM
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If I had to decide I would choose Dan If I had to choose I would choose Dawkins. Bilzerian doesn't act in a way that happy, secure people act. He seems desperate to be thought of as a playboy high-roller type - I don't know, that 'look how awesome my life is, look at all these carefully composed photos of how awesome my life is, look at all these hotties and guns and private planes' honestly screams insecurity/inner void to me. But truth is neither of us know who's happier so... Being masculine …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 11:23 PM
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Dan Bilzerian didn't do any good, he definitely spends his time more joyful than Dawkins. He doesn't waste time arguing with lunatics. Neither of us know how 'joyful' Dawkins vs Bilzerian are (and based on your use of the word 'joyful' I expect we differ on the value of it as a life goal, at least in the context of having immediate base needs met). What I can say is that I find Dan Bilzerian to basically be a woman with muscles and a dick. The RP idolization of him is hilarious but it does make …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:10 PM
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No, I don't agree. The worldview that admits its own parasitism (you explicitly accepted the comparison to a maggot on a corpse, below) is not one I could ever admire. This is the least masculine shit ever. Dawkins and Hoff-Sommers as failures vs some dudes who had sex a lot as successes? No. Agree with them or not, they did something with their brains/their lives. They fought the good fight as they saw it. I respect that. And all of this said, I'm not trying to convince you - we're not going to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 07:48 PM
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The truth is, I could probably be convinced to free Hyperrreal if you offered me some ice-cream or, like, $5 or something. His tears, they become wearying...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 07:43 PM
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I won't waste my life like Richard Dawkins/Christina Hoff Summer Oh. Dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 07:41 PM
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I was going to say the same thing. Staunch hetero, would bang an attractive woman before some old dude who grossed me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:03 PM
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The law was explicitly passed to promote gender equality. See the quoted part in my post, above. An as for changing it due to marriage alone, there aren't any number of hoops you could jump through there, it is not legal to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:09 PM
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No one is at my party except /u/hyperrreal. And anyone who says he's crying and asking to leave and I have a gun to his head is lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:06 PM
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Personal because I am my parent's only child and they want me to continue their legacy. If I marry I would probably hyphenate or, if my husband didn't care either way, keep my last name. My parents only had daughters and my father's side of the family is small + only female cousins have married so far (2 in total) and both took their husband's last names. As the firstborn of daughters I feel a duty to keep the family name alive and any children I have within marriage with have the last name, in …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 08:46 PM
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I live in Quebec, and it is illegal here for a woman to take her husband's name.: Since the passage of a 1981 provincial law intended to promote gender equality as outlined in the Québec Charter of Rights, no change may be made to a person's name without the authorization of the registrar of civil status or the authorization of the court. Newlyweds who wish to change their names upon marriage must therefore go through the same procedure as those changing their names for other reasons. The regist…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 08:36 PM
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There is literally no chance that someone with that particular double-barreled surname is going to have that first name. (I know, I know, maybe they have some other hard-to-spell first name)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 08:24 PM
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This is cool but /u/hyperrreal is at my pizza party.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 03:31 AM
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Becky Please stop doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 09:20 PM
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Some of them say they do. And generally, I don't believe them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 09:17 PM
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It's when everyone is in love and there are cool unicorns with rainbow horns and golden hooves and I can eat 3 pints of ice-cream every day and never get fat and even if I do Tim Tebow still loves me. J/k. Blue pill is the non-self-consciously-hardass version of...things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 09:12 PM
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No personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 03:51 AM
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masculinitysofragile It's mean but I actually think it's true with a lot of these dudes. Who is more obsessed with pussifying those who simply disagree with him than the man who secretly fears it is he who is the pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:24 AM
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Why not? Already answered: he is physically repulsive. If you believe Donald Trumps claims that he is getting plenty of women then I guess my next question is, if he was some guy from the midwest with a $40k/year job, would you still find it inexplicable if women didn't want to bang him? What I'm trying to get at is do you actually think Donald Trump is sexually attractive to women in any way?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 10:04 PM
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Who's job? I'm talking people in general. The ones who were horrified by Trump's remarks (and who have been horrified by him for months).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 07:45 PM
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It's so creepy, too. Like, I generally never hear "oh yeah, you'd love this fat old man's D" from red pill (or from anyone). But they've got this weird hangup with Trump, this need for him to be 'fuckable.' What's going on there? Guys, you think he's alpha. That's cool. But I'm telling you, women do not want to bang this guy. And frankly I don't understand why some of you seem so oddly insistent that we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 07:37 PM
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Dear people with specific tastes: NOT EVERYONE SHARES YOUR TASTES.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 07:31 PM
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Wtf is going on with this 'you would definitely love fucking/being hit on by Donald Trump' in this sub?! The dude is gross. Importantly for this discussion, he is physically gross. Are there hot women who would bang/marry Trump? Yes, there obviously are. But who here thinks that has anything to do with what he looks like or who he is as a person? It's the $. Being willing to put up with banging a gross dude with a lot of $ is not the same thing as actually wanting to have sex with him because he…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 06:12 PM
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A friend e-mailed me that article.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:45 PM
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Can you name a great city made by black people? Benin City/Edo. Nigeria. https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/18/story-of-cities-5-benin-city-edo-nigeria-mighty-medieval-capital-lost-without-trace
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 08:53 PM
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OK, before I say anything else I just want to acknowledge the non-answer-ness of this response from you. "What policies, what statements?" "All of them/everything." No. So the rest of this post is mostly just addressed to general people reading this thread. From the vid: the constrained vision is more aware of history...has an appreciation of and a hunger for historical understanding...searching for precedent, what has worked before - most things won't work - therefore we must work especially ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 08:23 PM
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you do not understand the 2 visions How do you know that? I just watched the vid (and these aren't new ideas - I think a lot of politically-interested people are well aware of them), the interviewer briefly defines the two visions and Sowell agrees: constrained: human nature is flawed + fixed. how do we erect institutions that contain our flaws and allow us to live in the best possible society - i.e. operating within the constraints of flawed human nature unconstrained: human nature as malleable…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 08:00 PM
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Can they be wildly incommensurate, though? From the video I get the impression that Sowell is an old-school (for lack of a better term - I simply mean 'not neo-con' and 'not alt-right') conservative - is it insane to think that someone like that wouldn't be very opposed to Trump (and again, to be clear - I do NOT mean pro-Hillary, I mean 'against Trump).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 07:51 PM
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I actually watched that whole video (and just bought the book it's a discussion of) and I cannot see how Trump fits in any way into the 'constrained' vision.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 07:48 PM
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Don't you support Trump?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 07:19 PM
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Ive considered a follow up post, we'll see. You should make one. Leaving it at "well, women do discuss worldly things outside the context of attracting men but I'm not gonna talk about that" kind of makes the original OP look troll-y. One might even view it as a concession of sorts. Yet you don't act in good faith, you seek to disprove through semantics and not understand How am I acting in bad faith? I disagree, I am taking you at your word - something you are failing to do in return. As for I …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 07:14 PM
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Heh, OK. I see there was a response anyway. For those reading: it was a request for sources. Now you, pitaenigma, you go to the quiet corner and do some breathing exercises.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 06:45 PM
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I'm removing this but requesting that you edit it to be civil, because it's a reasonable response, minus the cursing. I'll re-approve then.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 06:41 PM
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It doesn't talk about when women do get into worldly things on their own It appeared to with the talk about women getting into worldly things (you mentioned science, art, music, sports) and saying that they get into them to attract men who are into those things. Is that not what you meant? I read through the comments on this thread and you seemed to be edging, in some of your comments, towards a characterization of women who are interested in 'worldly' things as unfeminine/'tomboy'-ish. Is that …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 06:35 PM
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Heh. And I bet you think the reason for that doesn't involve you - and the things you say - at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 06:22 PM
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I only watch horror movies because the colours and shapes on the screen amuse me. What, did you think I was interested in the plot, the acting, the way the shots are set up? I don't even know what those things are! Tee hee. Giggle. blank stare Shoes!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 05:20 PM
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I'm not expressing why men and women have the worldly interests they do in more depth. You already did, as I summarized above. That's what your OP details. Though, I'm curious as to what worldly interests you have. No you're not. Literally nothing about you indicates a genuine interest in other people's thoughts, beyond the ones that can re-confirm your worldview. How much of what you say do you actually believe? 50%? 10%? 100%?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 04:23 AM
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Oh dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 04:05 AM
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This reply: Even if a woman does have worldly interests it is not in the way men have worldly interests. ? So women can have worldly interests? Are they actually interested in their worldly interests or do they just pretend to be in order to control and/or attract men - is that your position? Is it absolute? Can women have worldly interests outside of controlling/attracting men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 08:29 PM
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From your OP: Women will never have interests about worldy things the way men do That sounds pretty absolute.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 08:17 PM
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Can you explain how it's wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:55 PM
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I've found the Blair Witch to be a good movie for determining this. People either find that movie absolutely terrifying (me) or think it's a joke it's so unscary. David Lynch movies are the scariest, though. Goddamn. Brrrr.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:53 PM
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No. And it's just gone on my watch list. Thank you. :D Edit: Just Googled it and am already scared. Def. on the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:48 PM
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It was a literal description of your opinion. 'I don't know any women who talk about (what I deem to be) interesting things. Therefore women do not talk about interesting things.' No? Is that wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:48 PM
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Omg I literally just posted about the atmospheric point as this message from you popped up. And you must be made of harder stuff because it scared the fk out of me. That said, I've noticed that what scares one person can be very different from what scares another. Gore doesn't scare me much in horror flicks but the 'being followed' aspect of this one, ahhhh!!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:41 PM
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Definitely give it a look, it's excellent. Atmospheric in such a unique way, beautifully filmed and acted, fucking terrifying without going for the gore...ahhhh I LOVE THAT MOVIE SO MUCH!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:39 PM
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Have you and /u/fullmoonhermit seen 'It Follows'? Best horror movie I've seen for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:26 PM
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This just made me lol. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:15 PM
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God I wish that was true for me. But it isn't, is it? And therefore it isn't true for anyone. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:13 PM
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I don't really think society 'decided' anything (see my reply to the OP) but - why is this 'lol'? Don't you think raising children well requires brains?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 05:36 AM
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What's the problem with that part of the OP? 'God help us?' Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 05:27 AM
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I've thought for awhile, OP, that TRP (and some other groups) massively downplay the existence of children - and their need to be cared for - when talking about women as weak, dumb, silly little girls etc. For most of history, women stayed home and men worked (either at a job or just out in the fields tending crops and livestock etc.) because that was simply how it had to be due to circumstance. Women get pregnant, give birth to and breastfeed children. It would have been physically impossible, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 05:26 AM
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Removed for incivility.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 05:05 AM
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If you like stranger cock no need to make excuses. Well, yeah. That's what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 08:57 PM
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Is a woman speaking? Then solipsism is applicable. Yeah. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 06:55 PM
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Do you really need to take lots of stranger dick to learn what you want in sex? I've learned to give great blow jobs with experience with the same person (ex) and listening to what my man wants. Or do you need to find yourself through dick? How about therapy or hobbies? Why does it have to be any of these? Why can't it just be, in the words of Doug Stanhope, that maybe you just like the cock? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmzKmTIe_m4 - start vid at 10:14 for the relevant bit) Maybe a woman ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 06:35 PM
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No. Canadian/British tho and the Brits give the Aussies a run for their viciously sarcastic money. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 06:07 PM
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I think part of this is cultural, too. Lots of Amernicans here and I've seen some of them (irl) get pretty horrified by what I consider friendly banter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 04:57 AM
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If it's locker room talk, why are you taking it out of the locker room Ikr. The clue is in the name. Locker room. Don't bring that shit to a debate forum and expect to be indulged. Honestly, what gets me about these dudes is the constant need to shift blame and use plausible deniability to avoid personal responsibility. Yes. And this kind of thing is so often being spewed by the same people who constantly talk about the male propensity to 'take responsibility' (vs the female propensity to not ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 04:56 AM
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This is the best thing ever. Heil Hyperrreal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 04:46 AM
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OMG THEN ASK FOR A STORY! I'm not a mind-reader! Goddamned women!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 11:19 PM
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That its determined by ones looks? Looks are a part of masculinity, imo. That women get to judge weather you are masculine or not? We do. Everyone does. Including judging the femininity of women. If I find green t-shirts feminine af I am free to judge green-t-shirt-wearing men as girly/unattractive. No one is obliged to agree with me. The question is, do you care whether the opposite sex finds you masculine/feminine? Most of us do. Or most of us do for those we're attracted to, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 11:18 PM
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few women truly believe that all men are only good for sex and earning money I agree. That was kind of my point - that seriously believing the opposite sex is worthless beyond their sexual organs/bank balance is actually really rare. For men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 11:07 PM
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What? We're talking about your hypothetical 'average woman.' The question is, can this hypothetical woman manage with a less-hot partner or can't she. It makes sense, doesn't it? The answer to that question will differ depending on which woman you ask and I don't know hypothetical woman's answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 11:05 PM
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Yeah but the fact that you don't feel it doesn't mean you can't accept that a different woman might, no? The whole settling-early-then-regretting-lack-of-youthful-fun/experience etc. is kind of a common trope for men and women. I've even seen RP talk about this with regards to women. I'm not advocating for settling young or waiting to settle, either, to be clear. I think people should make decisions based on an honest assessment of who they are and what they want out of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 11:03 PM
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You're describing the anger phase and moving on from it. This is exactly what happens on TRP, too. Most posters who've been around for a while aren't stuck at "all women are bitches" -- they may say that women are different, or have an opinion about how to have successful interactions with women that you don't agree with, but it's not just being pissed off all the time. No, I'm specifically talking about the ones who seem settled and comfortable in the 'women ain't shit' niche. They exist. They …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 10:59 PM
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doesn't mean they can't a manage with people who are not. Well that's the question. Can she manage? If so then cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 10:25 PM
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You absolutely hear variants of "all women are bitches" in locker rooms Sure. I've also heard "all men are pigs" from female friends who've just gotten out of a horrible relationships and are blowing off steam. If any of those female friends continued on to express this view in serious, non-contextual (i.e. not in the context of getting fucked over by a man) and long-term way, that shit would be weird. I have male friends. I've even heard the 'all women are crazy bitches' from dudes in the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 10:23 PM
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Hmmm. I honestly don't think I can answer this. I think there are women who would be perfectly happy to settle down at 25 with a good-enough husband and there are women who would do this and then experience a feeling of having missed out somehow once they got to 35-40-ish. If she was my friend and, at 24 she came to me with a perfect guy, someone she was attracted to, someone with the attributes that would make him a good husband and father, I wouldn't advise her against marrying him at that poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 10:16 PM
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In order to answer your question, we'd have to know a lot more about the goals of the young woman in question. So the starting point for her strategy would be determining where she is trying to go. Does she want marriage? A family? Is her goal to be a SAHM or not? What kind of man does she want to marry? Where does she want to live? etc. etc. This. I need to know what this woman's goals are in order to advise her on reaching them. How important is marriage to her? Kids? What kind of men is she a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 09:56 PM
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This, it's exactly this. Let's take two things and compare them: The 'all single mothers are subhuman scum' screed on TRP. The comment brought up by /u/MisgenderedCactus: "Look at that, the fucking lazy whore decided to show her face today!" Anybody who thinks these two comments are in any way similar is missing a social skills portion of their brain. The latter is actual locker room talk, it's bonding between people who are members of the same team and favourably disposed towards one another. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 09:43 PM
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if neither has all the power, the power is equal That's not true at all. If there are 8 balls and 2 people, sure, one person could have zero balls and the other have none. Or each could have 4. But you could also have 3 vs 5 or 2 vs 6 etc. If neither person has 100% of the power that in no way implies that the power is then split 50-50.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 04:16 AM
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What?? What did I say made you think I was making any comment (either way) on who has it easier in the dating market?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 01:56 AM
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There are a number of them, imo. She's not interested at that moment, she's not interested in the specific topics (it's probably possible to be not-dumb and yet not interested in philosophy or science - maybe her areas of interest are world history and antiques, for example). But mostly I'd say that my personal hypothesis on this is something I've noticed in my life. 'Science' and 'philosophy' as conversational topics seems to be viewed by a number of people as masculine topics. It is a point in…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 09:53 PM
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I can count on one hand the number women who will engage me in philosophical or scientific discussions. Have you considered that there are alternate explanations to this besides and beyond "women are too dumb to engage with man X in philosophical or scientific discussions"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 09:08 PM
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What percentage of this comment is hyperbole, just out of interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 08:58 PM
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I don't really tie 'harmful' to 'validity' - if some dude thinks women with tattoos are unfeminine, that's a legit opinion. It isn't invalidated by the fact that some women with tattoos might feel hurt about it. We're all perfectly fine thinking X is feminine/masculine and Y isn't. Or the opposite. Or something else related to A and B instead of X and Y.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 08:56 PM
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It hasn't gone anywhere. You're getting your info from a teeny tiny niche group on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 08:52 PM
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I'm sorry, I just disagree that women's opinions on what is 'masculine' - and men's opinions on what is 'feminine' - are automatically invalid. TRP has numerous opinions on what is and isn't feminine - and they are allowed to have those opinions. In fact it doesn't even matter if anyone is 'allowed' to have them - they exist anyway and they matter. A lot. What men perceive as feminine and what women perceive a masculine is of immense importance to the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 08:41 PM
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Maybe. I tend to take most such statements on PPD as being expressed from a personal point of view, unless someone goes out of their way to add something that makes it clear they're making what they believe to be an objective comment. But my 'maybe' wasn't snarky, I don't actually know what was in that poster's head or whether or not she meant it in a 'this is my personal opinion' way or a 'this is the objective definition' way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 08:38 PM
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But couldn't you say the same thing about men? You could. It would be equally untrue, but you could. Seeing comments like the one you responded to just makes me smile and shake my head. These people want the 'women are simply interchangeable sex objects and I have all the power' to be true so badly (and it never will be - neither will the reverse). Where do you think that comes from, psychologically? From secure, unthreatened men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 08:34 PM
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Why doesn't she? No one here has a direct line to the Oxford English Dictionary headquarters, but we're all free to think X is masculine and Y isn't. What women perceive as masculine - and what men perceive as feminine - and their expressions of these perceptions, are perfectly legit. If /u/Circlesquare1 doesn't find harshness masculine, that's valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 08:24 PM
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You're entitled to your opinion! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 11:27 PM
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No, you're trying to force me into a conversation we weren't having. You've got something to say, and any even tangentially related convo is going to be strong-armed by you into an opportunity for you to let off steam/make your point. It's rude and presumptuous and no one is going to want you at their dinner parties if this is how you converse with other human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 10:43 PM
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I guess I dont understand. Why would you like something just because somebody else likes it? But isn't this kind of what some of the RPs are doing in this thread. I don't understand/can't wrap my head around/wouldn't personally enjoy X so X is bad (i.e. a lack of agency, in this case)? I think a LOT of people (male and female) who lean submissive understand the 'i like x solely because the person i'm banging likes x'. I mean, maybe it is a lack of agency? But I don't really see how.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 10:41 PM
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How would you answer a question like this. "X turns me on like nothing else." "Why?" How would you respond to that in a way that went well beyond "Well, I dunno, it just does?" Does anyone really know why X gets them going and Y doesn't? I really feel that trying to intellectualize sexuality in this way is probably a dead end.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 10:38 PM
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Yeah, you're refusing to believe that there are women who prefer to be dominant in bed vs submissive. Some women are here telling you they do. You are refusing to accept this and have stated that you will continue to do so. What are they supposed to say? What could they say, to convince someone on the record as unconvince-able? What would that response actually look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 10:36 PM
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You're not even talking to me. You're talking to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 10:35 PM
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But some women are that way. And to be very, very crystal goddamned clear because this is PPD: I AM OK WITH IT EITHER WAY. Do you think the women who are like that have no agency?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 09:58 PM
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Yeah, I got ya. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 09:56 PM
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Well luckily for that guy, citrusdrink from the internet is actually not in a position to let or not-let him watch porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 09:56 PM
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Uhhh...wat? Dude YOU brought up women's opinions on men. I was responding to that comment from you. Which in itself had very little (if anything) to do with my original comments re: why the need to pathologize those with differing sexual tastes. Damn. This is actually so bad it's making me laugh. As for this, though: It's not your purview. OH YES IT IS.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 09:55 PM
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I think she has a point - you've said it a couple of times now that you just won't believe a woman who prefers to be dominant sexually exists. You've got at least two in this very thread. If you refuse to believe them, it's not really on them to talk you out of a position you've explicitly stated you can't be talked out of.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 09:41 PM
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If that can be answered with rational thought I would be convinced. We're not in the realm of rationality here. "Because it makes my dick hard/panties wet" is a perfectly legit response.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 09:36 PM
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Some women definitely do that. I'm not saying otherwise. I don't think it matters who's making the accusation - I disagree that men who don't want to sexually dominate me are 'lesser' men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 09:33 PM
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Face-spitting is porn to me. That's porn sex, not real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 09:32 PM
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OK, was just clarifying. And agreed, i think (I need to go back and read over the discussion again).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 09:30 PM
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OK, not familiar with. But do you get why some ppl would be into this? Also I didn't realize we were talking about being tied up, I was thinking more general submission vs dominance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 09:30 PM
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Male desire is intoxicating to women, so long as it fits comfortably within the parameters of what she desires. This is true but it also get to a paradoxical point (sometimes) when what she desires IS what he desires. Not because they match coincidentally (he gets off on making love to the sound of parrots squawking - holy shit that's my exact fetish!) but because she specifically desires what he desires, whatever that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 09:27 PM
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with RP saying dominance is strictly physical, and BP saying there are psychological components. I have definitely noticed this, too. I'm not sure it totally fits with what you're saying, though. I'll try to explain. Let's take girl on top hetero sex as an example. To me, what makes the female dominant vs male dominant is a)about physical size but also and mostly b)about what's in the heads of those two people. You could watch people having sex like this and it could be either female dominant or…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 09:24 PM
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I don't understand the mindset of people who do Do you mean this literally? You don't understand why a woman would enjoy that? Or you don't think you would enjoy it? Because I don't want to pin people down and fuck them until they cry, but I get why some men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 09:14 PM
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A guy who needs a woman to dominate him has a screw loose. I will never understand this need to pathologize differing sexual tastes in other people. Men who enjoy being sexually dominated - that's common, man. Ask any prostitute/professional domme - I know a pro domme and she reports what you often hear - that the men who come to her are often very high-status/high-achieving types. And this isn't me getting personal/butthurt - I'm not into submissive men AT ALL. but I don't think they're crazy, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 09:08 PM
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Are you in your teens/twenties? I'm assuming you are, it might be a little different if you're 50 or something. But you must know this isn't normal, right? This could be really bad for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 09:02 PM
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I don't really get erections without using porn. Omg. Dude. Stop watching porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 08:57 PM
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Pls. repost under auto-mod, this is a Q for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 08:32 PM
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Yeah, I don't know if, given the choice, I would go back and choose to be raised religious - it would depend heavily on what religion and what version of it. I've never been around fundies of any type but I've read how some people are fucked up by being brought up with that kind of thing. Hell, even some of the light Christians I know have guilt/going to hell issues. Lots of studies seem to show that people who believe are happier in life, probably due to their belief, their trust in/certainty i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 07:34 PM
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But you can see it. With your eyeballs. She's tight-lined her lower waterline (i.e. eyeliner) and has obvious eyeshadow on in one pic. I suspect there's more but that's the obviously-visible stuff. This woman is extremely pretty but she IS wearing make-up, that's not disputable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 09:02 PM
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Dude! I agree that some women look extremely attractive without make-up. But this woman has visibly make-up on!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 08:04 PM
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Youth = beauty. That is indisputable. But there's a lot more to it, imo. Put 100 random 20 y.o. women in a room. Put 100 30 y.o. women in another room. The average beauty level will be higher in the room full of 20 y.o.s but there will be a number of women in the 30 room who are better looking than in the 20 room. Aging causes changes that affect men and women. Skin becomes thinner, less elastic etc. Hair gets thinner and duller. Muscle tone goes down. Gravity has an effect on body parts. I beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 08:02 PM
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Were you brought up in a religious household? I was brought up atheist by hardcore atheist parents who were themselves raised Anglican and then rejected all religious belief. Have you turned from religious to non-religious, or vice versa? I am agnostic. Because I don't know. How has your family/upbringing influenced your beliefs? I guess it's made belief impossible (so far, anyway) for me. I can now never be someone who just has faith because I feel it. I do have a sort of underlying sense somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 07:35 PM
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Above 25, no one is a ten. Tim Tebow is 29. Therefore Tim Tebow is not a ten. (objectively false) YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID, OP. I have provided proof and you are obliged to C your V now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 08:41 PM
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You're not actually that entertaining at all. Generally reasonable, small-c conservative socially. If you want to be entertaining you need to pepper more insults into this convo. But I like having you around because I don't know anyone like you irl and it's just interesting to get opinions from someone like you. And interesting>entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 08:11 PM
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I won't be interested in a relationship with you when you finally decide its time. I'm a grown-up and therefore aware that there are going to be things about me that make other people not want to get into relationships with me. I accept this. I think almost everyone has to accept this on some level. because you aren't willing to actually put the work into a real relationship. Not willing to put the effort in with that specific person. And for good reason. I knew 100% that a relationship with my …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 08:09 PM
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puts on mod cape and hat hovers finger over ban button
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 08:02 PM
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can you understand how a guy might find that absolutely disturbing? Sure. And I believe you when you say you find this disturbing/unattractive. But this is a huge, huge part of sexual interaction between humans. Hot people are afforded a lot more leeway than un-hot people. It has always been this way and always will be. So, by that statement, if you don't put up with your SO's shit, you are admitting he simply isn't hot enough. Because if he was Sergei, you'd deal, but since he's not that hot, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 07:57 PM
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hole spectacle I love this typo a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 07:42 PM
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'She' I AM A REAL LAYDEE!!! >:(
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 07:38 PM
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But who could turn down poetry in motion?! Not me. I'd want to know what someone with that kind of power and way of moving was like in bed You get it. I think you get it, anyway. I think we're talking about the same thing - me in my original post on the other thread and you here. This kind of thing is somewhat rare, imo. And it's very x-factor-y. It's definitely not about looks only. I wouldn't even know where to begin if a man asked me to how to create this kind of attraction routinely in women…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 07:34 PM
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Can we both use the machines during sex? I would be into that. And I agree with /u/ProbablyBelievesIt that if people routinely used these machines the bit we'd be surprised about are the warm fuzzy/mushy bits.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 12:47 AM
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Or would Tim Tebow still have to "get to know you" more first? As previously stated, Tim Tebow can literally do whatever he wants. But, I have felt this kind of attraction to real-life men before. It's rare in real life, though, as I said. Maybe once every 2-3 years will I meet a guy who inspires that kind of reaction in me. It was like that with my FWB. How to explain this. You know how RP says "some girls are just for fucking"? Well, some men are just for fucking, too. And that 'just for fucki…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 12:32 AM
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'Hot; isn't enough info for me. I'm not replying like this to be a pain in the ass, it genuinely is not enough info. I need to know about his personality as well. If you want me to be brief and answer roughly I'll say this: Either I'm not interested in a dude or I'm interested for sex only or I'm interested for sex + relationship. The middle option, sex only, is rare and only happens if he isn't just hot but super hardcore can't breathe hot. In that case, sure, ask for my number. In fact ask to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 11:15 PM
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It's part of the fearmongering/self-comforting from RP that comes with this topic. 'You better tell every man you meet that you're a sexaholic sloot as soon as you meet because otherwise he'll find out ~somehow~ and your happy life will be ruined!'
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 11:10 PM
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There's not enough information to answer this question. My advice depends on how I feel about that dude. And the OP doesn't provide any info on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 10:39 PM
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I'd totally hit that Fair warning/official notice: You just lost the right to ever (ever, ever, ever) criticize my taste in men EVER AGAIN. Dan Bilzerian?! Oh dear, Buartha. OH. DEAR.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 09:18 PM
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Heh heh no worries. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 04:45 PM
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I made it under my old, now-deleted account: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/4akn5m/cmv_magnanimity_is_the_alpha_trait/ (and the discussion wasn't very good, boo)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 04:44 PM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 04:34 PM
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Laydee.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 02:53 AM
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TRP has just changed "she doesn't love me" (personalized, scary, I might be unlovable) to "she can't love me" (depersonalized, less scary, has nothing to do with me and everything to do with women being incapable, not a man being unlovable).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 02:35 AM
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magnanimous (someone (sublimemongrel?) wrote such a great post on this a while back) Omg it was me not sublimemongrel it's not faaaaiiirrrrr!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 02:23 AM
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Why would any man approach a woman for a relationship if he's going to be put in a terrible position at the start. He would have no power or confidence, which women would not find attractive. I don't think this is true. If we accept the truth of what OP is saying (women rule men, and not because women sought to rule or because men sought to be ruled but because nature arranged it that way) then we can also accept that nature gave men tools to deal with this being-ruled stuff. It gave them boldne…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:36 PM
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"It is woman's destiny to rule men...It is not male hatred of women but male fear of women that is the great universal." "Rape is an act of desperation, a confession of envy and exclusion. All men- even, I have written, Jesus himself- began as flecks of tissue inside a woman's womb. Every boy must stagger out of the shadow of a mother goddess, whom he never fully escapes....Women have it. Men want it." A couple of quotes from Camille Paglia. OP, there's no need to start a sub. Everyone already k…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 05:08 AM
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I don't know much about this so take everything with a grain of salt but I noticed in high school and uni (and still now with a friend's sister who is on the spectrum) that weird people tend to hook up with other weird people (not using weird as an insult btw) and that these relationships, when they happen, can be pretty tight. It's like they bond over being different, getting each other in a way normals don't etc. I only realized after graduation that a lot of the nerdy types in HS (and some of…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 11:14 PM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:29 PM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:28 PM
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I agree, fuck Sweden. I nominate their national hockey team as target #1.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:24 PM
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Automatic promotion to Wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:11 PM
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THANK YOU for posting this. The levels of ignorance in this thread...oh my God.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:02 PM
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Oh OK, if we can't have any fun. :( You insulted the other poster. The comment was reported and I removed it after agreeing that you had, indeed, been insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 03:09 AM
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YOU KNOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 02:59 AM
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Who birthed the man who impregnated them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:51 PM
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I'm off to find me a sportsball player. I VOLUNTEER (to take this dirty job off your hands)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:50 PM
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there was one totally beautiful dude that I really did want to have sex with who never wanted to do the deed for religious reasons. Oooh, that's painful. If it wasn't for Christianity I am certain (certain!) that Tim Tebow would definitely be having a lot of sex with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:43 PM
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No personal insults!! Damnit!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:30 PM
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Dude, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:29 PM
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No personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:53 PM
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is not only virtue signalling, but it's pointless You think this is what it is. All I'm saying is I disagree. Virtue signaling exists, but I don't believe that's what Cuittler was doing. Talking about traits one doesn't find masculine on a post about masculinity is valid. Unless you have the ability to read minds, you can't know that someone is secretly thinking 'ah ha! I'll say this and everyone will know I'm a good-er person than everyone else here!' and I saw no reason to believe that's what …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:29 PM
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I'm not talking about being better than person X. I don't think the other poster was, either. The OP was about masculinity, the right way to be masculine - my answer was specifically about a set of behaviours that I do not personally find to be masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:25 PM
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Which is exactly what you did by saying; If you need to call an entire group of people bitches, sluts, degenerate sub human scum, you're doing something wrong. Or it's just actually how /u/cuittler (who I think is a woman) feels. I happen to agree, btw. That 'bitches, degenerates, sluts' rhetoric does not come off as masculine at all. That's not me virtue signaling (and seriously? saying you're not super into people who seem obsessed with demonizing women/men? that's virtue signaling? that bar s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:07 PM
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Stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:37 PM
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"Should" be? I don't see that. And I agree with almost everything Camille Paglia says. Submission is something I am either compelled to do or not. The whole "ladies, submit to your man and cook him dinner in lingerie tee-hee" makes me want to puke, though. Make me want to cook dinner for you in lingerie. Make me want nothing more than the look on your face when I do that. But don't ever make the mistake of assuming that because you have a penis, this is something that is owed to you or somehow t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:07 AM
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No problem at all, I wasn't trying to give a smackdown!! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 03:34 AM
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Are you asking or telling? Apparently on mobile sometimes the tags don't show up. /u/hyperrreal made me do this, ask him, it's his fault if I made a mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 03:30 AM
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This is a question for red pill, can you repost your response under the automod? Fanks. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 02:15 AM
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This is a question for red pill, can you repost your response under the automod? Fanks. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 02:15 AM
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I have had arguments with you, specifically, where you tell me I'm wrong about what I'm attracted to. "No, you're not attracted to that, that's comfort and women aren't attracted to that." And you're still ignoring the difference between the two. Blues say "being nice to random women is not enough to make someone want to bang you." Which is true. But comfort in a relationship is a huge, huge factor in attraction, for me anyway and for a number of women I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 08:41 PM
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Dude, you're the one who insists comfort isn't attractive. You're the one who says it. You're totally ignoring the wildly differing meanings here, too. 'Comfort in a LTR' is not the same thing as 'being nice to strange women will make them want to bang you.'
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 08:36 PM
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Imma let you finish, disposable pants, but /u/shoup88 had the greatest comment of all time. OF ALL TIME. (srsly that was funny. and no, i cant quite remember kanye's speech)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 12:54 AM
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Seriously. Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 05:15 PM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 05:14 PM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 04:48 PM
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Repost without insults and I'll reapprove.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 04:46 PM
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Smart and fug, here's the plan: Use brains to become multi-billionaire. Use brains to invent memory wiping device. Scour the earth for an emotional genius, a person of extremely deep insight into others. Offer this person a million dollars to hang out with me, every waking moment, for two years. At the end of the two years, offer this person a job. Job description: making me happy. I am thinking of a fixer here, a Mr. Wolfe (from Pulp Fiction) of the psyche. Inform this person they will be paid …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 02:33 AM
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He hasn't replied. My dick could not be harder about this. Edit: Seriously, /u/dopeska. You called her out, let's go. Is she still lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 02:18 AM
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Shut up, yo. Einstein over there just PWNED the shit out of you with pure logick. "Women lie." BOOOOOOOOM. Literally every argument won, right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 02:17 AM
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I suspect most women are not up to the job of sexually dominating men. Some are, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 11:19 PM
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OK, can you spell out specifically what you mean re: what /u/Gridrexx posted that indicated women's lack of agency? Sorry, I'm at a disadvantage here because a)female and b)shock at possible serious discussion. ALSO THANK YOU. YOUR STYLE, TOO, IS ADEQUATE.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 11:13 PM
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FINE I'LL DO IT FOR YOU GODDAMNIT WHY DO I HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING AROUND HERE action or intervention, especially such as to produce a particular effect. "canals carved by the agency of running water" synonyms: action, activity, means, effect, influence, force, power, vehicle, medium a thing or person that acts to produce a particular result. "the movies could be an agency molding the values of the public"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 10:57 PM
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Don't tell the other mods what I'm really like ok we cool?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 10:53 PM
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Some of you Red Pillers need to go haul out your dictionaries and look up the word 'agency.'
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 10:53 PM
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OK, consider this an official warning. Stop trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 06:18 AM
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Oh hell no.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 05:26 AM
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Don't be rude pls.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 05:15 AM
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Terps have called me fat, ugly, obese, revolting They are a charming bunch, aren't they? Also, AFAIK, there is already a jello-wrestling event in the works for PPD (brawny men and the women who love them vs ottermode men and the women who love them). So pick a side and hop in.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 05:09 AM
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I would turn him down for a date Good. That's one less woman I have to pile-drive into a kiddie pool full of jello on the path to the Tebow D. :D (gosh these red pillers are taking it very seriously, though - one of them has just called me fat!!)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 10:26 PM
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Pls. repost under automod, this is a Q for the BPs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 05:51 PM
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TELL ME ABOUT IT. When I see any regular, non-Tim Tebow guy irl, I instantly projectile vomit. It's getting embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 05:48 PM
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Why? Am I bringing shame to the mods with colour or do you just really like Maggie Thatcher (and think I am tarnishing her by talking about sucking dick whilst displaying her words in my flair)?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 05:42 PM
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Pics or GTFO.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 05:40 PM
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This isn't quite right. When you say status I assume you mean 'fame + money' (which in this case don't matter to me), but it's definitely about more than looks. It's about who he is, too. His skills (that dude in Napoleon Dynamite was right), his extreme level of athleticism. He can run fast, jump high etc., he's better at that than 99.9% of men. He's exceptional, is what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 05:40 PM
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My supply of sparkling water ran out four days ago, Atlas, I can't be held responsible for this behaviour. In a few days I suspect I'll be reduced to grunting and pawing clumsily the at the abs of randomers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 05:37 PM
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It doesn't matter who started it. And if either of you keeps it up you're both going to bed without dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 05:10 PM
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And you be nice!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 05:07 PM
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Be nice!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 05:07 PM
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No, not you guys, Tim Tebow.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 12:03 AM
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I know. It's a crime against womankind and I'm thinking of reporting his family to the International Criminal Court.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 12:03 AM
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And if he didn't think it was inherent? I would. still. suck. his. dick. My issue is that you think I'm a bad person for pointing it out. I don't think you're a bad person, I just don't think you understand. I mean, did you see the photo? And you expect me to...NOT suck his dick??! That just seems churlish.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 11:20 PM
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But I wouldn't feel a loss of dignity by sucking Tim Tebow's dick (and would pay his rent for the privilege, if asked). You feel differently and that's OK. If Tim felt I was inherently undignified and lacked agency because female, I could get past that because...Tim Tebow. I just don't feel shame about this, sorry. And it's not about his status, it's about his looks/physicality. If he was not famous and had $5 in the bank but was otherwise the same man, I'd feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 10:57 PM
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Is sucking dick forsaking dignity? Or only when it's done whilst being told one has no inherent dignity? If it's the latter, and Tim thinks I have no dignity because female, then he thinks I have no dignity whether or not I'm sucking his dick and in that case, given the choice between Tebow's (hypothetical, irl he would never think such a thing!) foul opinion plus Tebow D OR Tebow's foul opinion minus Tebow D, I will choose the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 10:28 PM
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Is it supposed to be empowering or something Empowering? Uh, no. Where did you get that idea? And it's not A guy. It's THAT guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 10:15 PM
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To what extent does our hypothetical guy look like this this? Because that's exactly the extent to which I'm willing to put up with red pillery. If we're talking about Tim Tebow himself, I'm happy to choke on his dick while he delivers a lecture detailing the many ways in which women - i.e. me - have no agency, sense of self or dignity. I won't agree with him, understand, that's just the price I'd be willing to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 09:33 PM
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Oh this is going to go well. Oh god.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 06:56 PM
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Please tell me this is a Stewart Lee reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 06:54 PM
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Men are actually huge mushballs. And I don't think other men get to see that mushball side of a man too often. But women see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 06:34 PM
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Well, before I say anything else I should point out that, barring people we know well (i.e. people whose workout - or non-workout - routines we're familiar with), we can't know which hot people are in the gym four a hours a day and which ones are just genetically blessed. So I really have no idea how many men vs how many women have that natural hot body without effort. I think people here leave out nuance/details when it comes to hotness. Body shape matters, for men and women. Some people have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 06:04 PM
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Ha ha, that scene. That director knew exactly what he was doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:41 PM
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Omg, that second ass, the one on the left? Can asses be sad? That ass looks sad. All sad and droopy. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:40 PM
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The male equivalent of this exists. I knew a guy who constantly got asked about his workout by male friends - broad, muscular shoulders/chest etc., masculine face. Fucker never set a foot in the gym and he still looked better than all the dudes not born with his build who spent hours in the gym. Some people, including men, are genetically blessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:39 PM
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No, don't listen to THEM. Listen to me. Get muscles. You are somewhat defined now (although I can't tell if that's from the gym or just natural muscle) but a solid amount of bulk...I can't even tell you how far that would up your SMV. I am purple leaning blue with a very few areas leaning red (one of them being believing in 'lifting').
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:39 PM
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I knew you sons of bitches were going to come and talk shit about this. I even specifically held back on telling him to get HUUUUUGE. I agree that 175-ish would be awesome (i.e. 175-185, adding muscle only to what he has now). :D
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:37 PM
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What do you mean raw material? I basically mean 'potential for hotness.' Going to the gym is going to improve almost everyone's attractiveness but some people (male and female) lack the underlying body shape/type to vastly improve. Think of a woman with wide shoulders and narrow hips/no waist/small boobs. She can go to the gym but she's not going to be able to do as much as a woman with a natural hourglass figure is. Some dudes just have non-masculine proportions. Even when they're bulked up the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 06:46 AM
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Depends how hot you are. OK, looked at pics. You're working with more raw material than most here (I suspect). Nice jawline, pretty eyes. You know what you need to do? Bulk up. You've got a babyish face (this is partly just youth). More than anything else, that's going to help you a lot. Gym, dude. Go there. Seriously. Up the masculinity points. As for grocery store pickups, women are gonna be more open to it the hotter you are. The only other thing I'd say is to be able to pick up on signs of d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 06:32 AM
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But sublime, baby, honey, sweetie-pie, cupcake, sugar-britches, lovely, dollface, darling, schnookums, baaaaabe...how to condescend to someone without these terms, I ask you???
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 09:06 PM
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I've studied these things formally, and I've devoted the majority of my post-graduate study to it. I don't believe you. Nothing you've said indicates that this is true. In fact what you're saying seems highly convoluted. Let's see. We've got: women rarely show any agency and men are capable of so much more than women simply by applying themselves and Agency suggests some self or notion of free will and Females seem to be taken like the wind with emotion. If their emotion demands it, they are at …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 07:42 PM
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That's actually amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 06:08 PM
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OP, just fyi, 'onceoever' is actually 'whatsoever.' Not trying to be a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 12:48 AM
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If she wants to bone you, being kind/decent isn't going to kill that. Being supplicating could, if she only kinda wants to bone you. But if she REEEAAALLY wants to bone you, it probably doesn't matter too much. For women, having the strategy of establishing friendship with a guy first, before any dating or non-platonic interaction is also bad, because it can cause the man to feel disinterested I don't agree. Very little, if anything, can put dudes off once they're interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 12:08 AM
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I get the impression that sex would be better after weeks/months of flirting as acquaintances or 'kind of friends'. It is. It's the difference between eating half a sandwich when you're just kinda hungry and eating dessert in a Michelin starred restaurant when you've been starving yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 12:05 AM
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Dude. Stahp.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 06:22 PM
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Repost minus snarky insults and I'll reapprove.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 06:22 PM
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Dude, if you're not going to report comments that you think need reporting, I can't help you. When a comment is reported it doesn't include 'context' comments, it's just the one comment we see.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 06:19 PM
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Dude. You have had lots of casual sex and never not gotten the woman off the first time. Don't you be accusing other people of outlierism when you've got a big ol' 'outlier' sign over your head, too. ;p
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 06:17 PM
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Report it. If he insulted you, I'll remove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 06:10 PM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 05:58 PM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 05:52 PM
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No circlejerking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 05:51 PM
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I don't get mad at dogs for anything. Men, though...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 08:23 PM
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Triceps are the shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 06:51 PM
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Oh. OK. OK. OKAY??!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 06:13 PM
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I don't think I agree that living in an ivory tower automatically means you can't comment on outside-the-ivory-tower issues. Also, Camille Paglia is actually one academic I wouldn't accuse of ivory-towerism. She's refused to take an Ivy League professorship and talks extensively about her relationships with non-academics (gay men, drag queens, working class students at the art college where she teaches). Her own background is working class. She's def not one of the coddled middle class girls she…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 06:13 PM
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I guess I'm talking specifically about sheltered little white girls from the 'burbs, like me. I knew rape happened. I knew murder happened. But it somehow genuinely never occurred to me that it might happen to me. That shit happened elsewhere, to other people. The boys I knew were nice and would never rape anyone, as far as I knew. And believe me, if I had a son I would make sure he was straight on the the idea of consent, the legalities etc. Men and women both need to protect themselves, someti…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 06:05 PM
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Oh my mom spends 90% of her waking life triggered. or were you talking about me? I wasn't triggered, Camille Paglia is the boss of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 05:56 PM
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I conceded that on the point of generalized sex drive, men's is higher than women's. I am not, in this convo, talking about generalized female sex drive. Someone should do that study, I'd be interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 05:48 PM
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I don't have a reason to believe that your 'real enough picture that you have gained through reading and life experience', is any more 'true' than my 'real enough picture that I have gained through reading and life experience.'
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 05:42 PM
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DONE. stuffs pistachio ice-cream into face at speed
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 05:39 PM
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I've read those studies, too. Do you know how many studies, in how many slightly different contexts, we'd have to do to get a real picture of male vs female sex drives? I'm not saying the studies are wrong, I'm saying they test specific things in specific situations. I'm not talking about husbands and wives. I'm only talking about how much I want to bang the person I most want to bang in the world vs how much random dude X wants to bang the woman he most wants to bang in the world. There's a dec…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 05:37 PM
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Those studies are broad. I conceded that in a broad sense, the male sex drive is generally higher than the female one. If they narrowed it down, for women, from 'how many random dudes do you want to bang and how bad?' to 'how bad do you want to bang this dude (i.e. this dude you very much want to bang)?" I think we'd see different results. Also wouldn't the bag have to be over my body?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 05:32 PM
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Sex isn't like eating a cheeseburger, it's a fundamental drive that keeps our species alive. The cheeseburger drive is arguably stronger than the sex drive! If I don't bang, life sucks a lot. If I don't eat, I die.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 05:26 PM
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Is there some sort of certificate or document I can get to attest to this? That I can give to men who rudely don't want to bang my fat, ice-creamy ass? "This person has a high ice-cream drive. It isn't her fault. You are obliged to bang her anyway because she can't help herself." Can these men then be legally forced to bang me? Because if so, dude, I AM IN. (but seriously, see my other response re: sex drive 'in the moment' - and also think about the fact that neither of us can truly know who wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 05:23 PM
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If you're interested, I posted a longish post on this very topic (male vs female sex drives) recently. My opinion is basically that if you send a man and a woman out in public on a hot summer day and then, a few hours later, ask them how many randoms they wanted to bang and how badly, the man will have wanted to bang more randoms and his drive to do so will have been higher than the woman's. BUT, if we're talking about sex drive focused on a single person I don't believe there's too much differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 05:20 PM
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You're dodging the question of my responsibility for my own fatness levels. My parents were not obese when I was conceived. I like ice-cream more than most people. This isn't an example, I actually do. I really, really, REALLY like ice-cream. Not frozen yoghurt bullshit. Full-fat ice-cream. So once again: am I not fully responsible for my own fatness if I give in to my ice-cream drive and eat it all day?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 05:15 PM
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I like ice-cream more than most people. If I eat ice-cream until I weigh 250 lbs. can I blame my high ice-cream drive and refuse to accept full responsibility for my lardrolls, even if I knew the whole time that eating too much ice-cream would cause chub? (and if I can: YAY!)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 05:06 PM
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Pssst. Ladies aren't 'biologically inclined' towards this, either. And assuming both parties know where babies come from, any resulting pregnancy is 50/50 responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 05:03 PM
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I agree with Camille Paglia. And am interested to hear hard-blue responses to this video. The question then becomes 'what's to be done about it?' And the answer is: educate women. But does anyone think current society is ready for this? Do people realize what a sea-change this would be for the white middle classes? From my first sex-ed class in grade school in the 90s to moving out and going to university in the 00s, the message was always, always 'wear what you want, do what you want, these thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 11:22 PM
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Camille Paglia has always had that "okay?" tic when speaking. I've grown kind of fond of it. My mom has never listened to a word she says but she hates her solely based on her speaking style...OKAY??
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 11:05 PM
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Will do. I know someone in Texas who needs a good waterboarding so it might be soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 09:04 PM
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One day a week or one day every two weeks and I would into this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 09:03 PM
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I think it's both re: interesting and interested - chicken, egg etc. People who are one of these things are usually both. If someone has a long-list of hobbies that's great for them but they could still be completely boring. What's more interesting is why you do any of the things you do, not just that you do them. I completely agree. This makes me think of the people I know who cultivate strong social media presence and detail all the things they did of a weekend. Sometimes I suspect that multip…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 08:54 PM
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it just says you're an interested person. This is, in my experience, very often what makes a person interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 08:22 PM
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Gonna answer this before reading other response so as not to cloud mind with other human opinions. Also, this is being answered in the sense of a man who has already met the 'physically attractive enough' bar - I'm pretty sure we all know no one is attracted to 500 lb. grease-covered cave-dwellers (of either sex). It seemed to be what was being gotten at in the thread yesterday - shit a man can do to fuck up something that could have gone somewhere (rather than 'obvious stuff women don't find at…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 08:02 PM
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You know, I hardly ever get those 'I could drink beer with this guy' vibes from RPers but I do with you. You sound fun and easy to be around and this place makes me think that's rarer than it is. (INB4 'look at this solippibibbibistic bitch thinkin' deigning to have beer with a dude is some big compliment').
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 07:38 PM
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Dude, stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 07:20 PM
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FWIW, that girl sounds like a royal pain in the ass. That "nevermind" would make me want to smack a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 07:16 PM
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Ask Atlas, she started the meme. And hey, if that's what she and some other women are into - cool (really, this is not snark). But it ain't what I'm into. It is interesting how different the ideas of alpha vs beta can be here, though. Some of them are so different they're almost opposites. Which is weird, isn't it? We're all a little solippibibbibistic about it maybe - it's very hard to get your head around other people fancying someone you find completely unfanciable. And vice-versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 01:05 AM
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You know what I think, OP? I think the vast, vast majority of men and women are perfectly aware of the 'sexual strategy' of the opposite sex. And you know what else? I don't like being pedestalized or catered to or fawned over. And none of that shit comes without strings, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 01:02 AM
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Isn't your wife horrible and mean? Maybe I am your wife??
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 12:59 AM
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I just approved this comment. What is happening to me. (plsnomoretalkaboutsandybaginers)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 12:58 AM
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Was he crying for Jesus? D'awwwww. I luff him. Agree re: Kaepernick, too. Big balls on that one, good for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 12:56 AM
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/u/impossibleworlds to referee.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 12:55 AM
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I prefer the term 'built like a brick shithouse,' myself. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 11:49 PM
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If this sub was real life I'd arrange some kind of jello wrestling match between the beefy dudes lovers (and the beefy dudes) and the ottermode dude lovers (and the ottermode dudes). Could be pretty epic. Your floppy leg comment made me laugh, tho. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 11:47 PM
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Ikr. I actually do think about whether or not it's a good idea to post this kind of thing here sometimes. I see some RP men doing their 'big man in charge rargh' thing at PPD and it's just so fucking cringey. The opposite of attractive. But then I wonder if saying I like being intimidated by a man would make them think that sort of thing is attractive? I dunno. There's so much more nuance here and if certain RPs were genuinely interested in learning what attracts women you'd think they'd actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 11:18 PM
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He's exactly my type. Like, textbook. But thank you for agreeing that he's not fat. Hopefully buartha the skinny-chaser reads this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 11:10 PM
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OK, OP, you need to chiiilllll. 24 is by no means 'too late.' Honestly, the clearest advice I can give you is to do everything to be physically attractive that you can. Everything. Esp. gaining muscles if you don't have any. I could give you an age range when I think men are at their physical peak (18-30) but then I could think of a thousand exceptions (older men who are hotter and younger men who aren't).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 11:09 PM
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Omfg I just googled this. They DID make him cry. Those sons of bitches. Fuck them. >:(
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 10:47 PM
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Omg. Why are you so wrong? Why? Are you telling me you would say "no" and shut the door in his face if Tim Tebow showed up at your flat begging for sex? Is that what you're telling me?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 10:42 PM
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Is the Alabama Crimson Tide a person? Or many people? What are their addresses?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 10:39 PM
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Yeah, ITA with all this. And both sides confuse the issue (the confusing taking precautions with culpability). It's super-heated and almost impossible to talk about most of the time, at least here, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 10:39 PM
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common knowlage, or common sense But this is always where the disagreement is. One person's 'this is obviously true' is another person's 'holy shit this id def. not true' - esp, here at PPD. You can't just walk into an argument convinced your opinion is hard fact and not expect ppl to request actual evidence. It would be much better if we could all be, like, 'yeah, this is my opinion.'
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 10:34 PM
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No. Who made him cry and where do they live?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 10:32 PM
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Muscle, buartha. You could pinch an inch of muscle (and why would you pinch when you could bite?).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 10:31 PM
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Apparently his NFL career didn't go too well. Fortunately for him, I am willing to overlook that. And as for the virginity...holy fuckballs. Is that - I'm not even sure that's possible. I mean, he can't be. Can he?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 10:29 PM
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/u/ofspock needs to get together with /u/buartha and they both need to work out their wrongness re: 'fat'. These dudes aren't fat, you monkeys!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 10:25 PM
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Tbh, what I do isn't selective -- it's exclusionary. This is an excellent point. I often get the feeling that men's sexuality is very bulldozer-ish. It would take a LOT to put a man off. She could puke on him, pick her nose, make a racist comment and insult his mom and he'd still fuck her. There are so many things that can put me off a dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 09:33 PM
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You want a guy for security. Ehhh... this is like saying 'you want that girl for babies' - I mean, you don't, do you, esp. not if she's just a super hot ONS? But you're attracted to her because you've been programmed by nature to go for women who could have your babies. As I am prgrammed by nature to go for men who could provide me (and any of our children) with security. It's a little strange but women who come from cruder societies that have less social ordering appreciate a rougher look I rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 09:30 PM
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I do not. Is this fat to you ? Goddamnit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 09:21 PM
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Ha, he's not scary because he's black, he's scary because...so much man. And I don't think people always understand what I mean by 'scary' - it's an enjoyable kind of scary. I just said 'scary' a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 09:19 PM
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Yeah, I hear this. Big, masculine guys being sweet with children and animals...it does something to me. It's the juxtaposition of 'could kill me with his bare hands' and 'gentleness,' specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 09:18 PM
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You have a Serbian bf? Jelly. I don't think I've ever met a non-hot Serb (male or female).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 09:15 PM
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And every single movement of his was contained aggression. It was like this very precise dance and I found it entrancing and incredibly sexy. Exactly. You see this a lot in very fit male athletes. Even when they're not on the field/in the ring, it's there in the way they walk, the way they carry themselves, their movements etc., you can sense the strength there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 08:31 PM
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I think Idris Elba exudes 'I already know you're my bitch so why go to the effort of skullfucking you?'
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 08:29 PM
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Of all the traits I listed, a certain number of them have to be present to meet the 'sexy' bar. Kindness could be part of the list that meets the bar or it could not be. A glaring lack of it will kill attraction, though. A dude who is an unapologetic asshole or treats others cruelly is not hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 08:28 PM
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I was answering in a 'total package of sexiness' kind of way. Not in a 'each of these traits on their own are enough to be sexy' way. See the convo re: Ryan Lochte. His muscles aren't enough to overcome his goofiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 08:25 PM
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There's a whole school of people here on PPD who think uncontained aggression, petulance etc. are 'alpha' so I just wanted to be clear that that is specifically unattractive to me (but it's cool if others find it hot).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 08:24 PM
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I know. I'd feel bad for the dude but I actually think he's probably 100% fine and happy with banging his female equivalents.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 08:23 PM
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Kindness is on the list - it's included in magnanimity, but I didn't go into detail cuz i didn't want to cause a RP freakout. Kindness IS def. on the list, though. Generosity of spirit. etc. Manspreading is not cool 90% of the time. Dick move, esp. in crowded public areas. But that 10% of the time...yeah. This is the shit right here: My new sports boyfriend. Then what do you mean by "intelligence"? Book smarts? Knows a bunch of shit? Well read? Knows how to talk about the shit he knows? No, I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 08:16 PM
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Sure, sure, straight out of TRP. I just...eh, I want to be careful. I don't want idiots getting the idea that scaring the shit out of women is going to make them want to bang you. See what I said to lollygagyo re: 'contained' and 'controlled.' Edit: 'idiots' is not referring to you, it's referring to general male idiots
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 08:14 PM
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a little hint of aggression wound through him. But it was contained. Nail. Head. And the 'contained' part is mandatory. Uncontained aggression just comes across as sloppy and childish and tantrum-y. But when they're locking that shit down? Controlling themselves? Why is it so hot when men control themselves? I don't know, but it so is. And then, in certain situations, you can just push buttons until that control starts to slip...seeing that happen is better than any drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 08:14 PM
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U
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 08:00 PM
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Lochte is a fucking textbook example of this. Technically hot but such a dumb bunny it ruins everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 08:00 PM
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Pem, I've never pretended otherwise so can stop with the silliness. But yeah, I meant what I said. There is a certain concentration of masculinity so pure that it's frightening/intimidating/hot as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 07:57 PM
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Yeah, I bet he's good at...conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 07:56 PM
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His face isn't perfect (you like beards more than me) - could do with being shorter/wider, but fuck, it doesn't matter because that body. I'm afraid of him and for that reason, I fancy him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 07:45 PM
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Well shit, Pem, how long do you have? The physical: general high level of physical fitness/competence hugeness (and I don't mean fat), heft, breadth, width. broad, muscular shoulders + neck + chest + arms wide face + strong, broad jaw big fuckin' man hands deep voice basically, a thick ribeye steak in human form non-physical: ease/doesn't get shook too quickly or easily - at ease with himself and with the world. wide stance when sitting in chairs magnanimity quick wit good conversationalist inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 07:43 PM
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Oh. My. God.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 07:33 PM
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Women who go home, drunk, with strange men they just met at a bar and who they don't want to have sex with that night are, imo, behaving riskily. If asked by a young teen girl what she should do in that situation i would definitely advise against putting herself in it. That said, if he rapes her, that's 100% on him and he should go to prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 06:46 PM
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Hard men, baby, that's who! Men who neither care about nor experience weak, stupid little feels. (/s) Note to mods: it's kind of circlejerky, so if you want to give me a smackdown, I submit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 06:44 PM
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You can't respond to someone's well reasoned and thoughtfull post with "prove it beyond a doubt" this not not a courtroom. If someone is presenting their opinion as solid fact, yes you damn well can. That's the actual problem, imo - the reason so many discussions here fail. If two open-minded, good-faithy-y ppl are having a discussion, if both are genuinely accepting of the fact that they're just throwing around opinions, that can work really well. But when someone marches in with that 'my opini…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 06:21 PM
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I just read through your whole exchange with disposable and I have to say...ITA. And I also have to express that my opinion is an opinion only, based solely on my interactions with redpillers on PPD. So many of these guys just make me want to bang my head against the wall - it's so obvious what the issue is and it's also so obvious they don't see it/understand it at all. The worst are the 'powah screeds' (as I like to call them). Guys, no. No, no, no. Pls no.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 06:17 PM
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Don't listen to her, Frenchie, I think you're adorable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 06:13 PM
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Random men who reach things on high shelves or carry heavy bags for beautiful women aren't doing it because they 'respect' them. If they help all shorter/weaker people out it probably just means they're civilized human beings. There's something so small about this 'other people are getting things I'm nooot' attitude, which I see a lot on this sub. Who the fuck cares if some 'spoiled, snobby' chick expects men to carry her bags or reach things on high shelves for her? Just don't do it. I mean, do…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 07:07 AM
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You currently haven't put forth any premise Nor am I obliged to. I'm questioning your claim that men are objectively superior to men, that's all. Putting forth beliefs of one's own is not inherent in questioning someone else's. Which seems more like being lazy than anything else, or perhaps nihilistic in that nothing the species does matters, which I guess is fine, but not very interesting or useful. It's not laziness, I love to talk about this stuff. But you've made your position on women's int…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 09:38 PM
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Personally, I'm just very happy to live in Canada right now. Preach. I'm watching this US election with what can probably described as 'horrified glee.' Trump is a fucking trainwreck but there's a little teeny part of me that actually kind of wants to watch the shitshow if he gets elected. I wish he was running for preznit of a non-superpower, I would then feel safer in being entertained and less afraid of WWIII breaking out. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 09:21 PM
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A casual relationship would depend on the level of risk he was exposing me to. A committed relationship would depend on the risk he was exposing himself and me to. You mentioned the $30mil figure elsewhere in the thread. If the crime was victimless, the payoff was massive and there was very little risk of getting caught or being killed, I may be open to it. But the risk would have to be so small that I'm not sure such a scenario would be possible irl. If children are involved I'm out, instantly.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 09:14 PM
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Equal in what sense? The same? No. No two individuals are exactly the same. But you still need to answer the first question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 05:45 PM
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First you have to define what matters I'm answering this because this is the key to the argument. You believe that value is derived from employment in science/tech fields. You seem to believe that this is where most (all?) value is derived. I do not believe that. And it doesn't really matter what I believe vs what you believe here, because our personal beliefs/values are not about logic - i.e. neither of us is going to be able to use formal logic to 'prove' that our personal opinion on the value…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 05:37 PM
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That's funny, I have a male friend with a specific attraction to 'boss-eyed' women. It's his thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 05:01 PM
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If a subreddit has 100 posts and 50 of them are jokey posts and the other 50 are serious posts...is the subreddit serious or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 03:40 AM
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Strange, women often tell men who had trouble getting sex that they are not attracted to this description. It is strange, isn't it? One woman having thoughts or emotions that are different to another woman's? Also, isn't that pretty much an identical stereotype of the Jockish Chad akin to "backwards-baseball-cap-wearing, pickup line spewing fratbro" He doesn't wear backwards baseball caps, he's not a jock, he can't be a fratbro because he's British and I doubt he's ever used a pick-up line in hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 02:52 AM
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I don't know what you do or do not believe I do not believe that men are "objectively superior" to women. I expect you to disagree and tell me why you disagree. I disagree because I see no reason to agree. (I also do not believe that women are "objectively superior" to men) Not just say lack of evidence Why? A 'lack of evidence' is a perfectly good reason not to believe something. It's specifically the reason that I don't believe men/women are superior to women/men. logic is our primary tool to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 02:49 AM
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As I said: we disagree on what makes a person intelligent (or not). In most cases I do not believe intelligence can be reliably inferred by career/job.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 02:30 AM
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you can't be both Well that's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 02:28 AM
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It absolutely doesn't matter if you agree or not. Well I guess we're done here, then. I believe innate intelligence exists. I believe that a 100 IQ person studying programming (for example) will never be as intelligent as a 130 IQ person lifting heavy objects. Our definitions of intelligence seem to differ, and we disagree so, yeah. Happy cake day. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 10:22 PM
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You're still doing it. It's all I've ever seen you do on here. Repeated assertions with no evidence. Women are superior to men. Do you believe me? That's why I don't believe you, either. Because you can't just believe a thing, state that thing, and have it magically become true. Men are superior to women? There is no man who feels equal intellectually and morally to a woman, he is only faking it for her benefit? Why should I believe that? You expect me to lay out all the evidence for everything …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 10:13 PM
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If lifting objects makes you stronger - and you don't argue with that, and you agree that repeatedly performing a task makes you better, then there's no way you can say that performing intellectual labor is not enough to say that a person is more intelligent than a person who doesn't do it. Well, is the brain the same as a muscle? A brain isn't a muscle. It could be similar in some ways to a muscle. Is it? I think there is some evidence that repeatedly performing cognitive tasks increases abilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 10:08 PM
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Was it with Chad? The definition of 'Chad' is often so fluid that it can literally be 'any guy that any woman once wanted to fuck really badly.' Now, I've never had sex with a backwards-baseball-cap-wearing, pickup line spewing fratbro so...no, he/they wasn't/weren't Chad? As for best sexual experience: there isn't one. Depending on the mood I'm in I might single out times I've had sex and had it match that mood. This isn't to say good sex and bad sex don't exist, but it's an incredibly tangled …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 09:59 PM
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weeps
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 08:28 PM
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Removed. And you know why.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 08:25 PM
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Doesn't matter if it's actually true or not, just how she's made to feel. No, it specifically does matter. It has to actually BE true. And if it can never be true for you (i.e. if you can never see any woman as your equal) you need to keep in mind that that won't necessarily apply to all other men. Besides, Rand actually spells this out in the quote itself: Intellectually and morally, i.e., as a human being, she has to be his equal; then the object of her worship is specifically his masculinity,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 08:12 PM
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Ha, are you Canadian? AFAIK mace/pepper spray is illegal here - except for the kind that's to be used on bears. So instead of a little purse-sized can of pepper spray I have a goddamned gigantic canister of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 07:54 PM
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To be clear, I was mostly being jokey there. How would I have any clue what goes on in Sardonis70's mind? I wouldn't. My issue is with the people in this thread who, based on a single data point (female human), assume that they know what goes on in that person's mind. What some in this thread are saying about how women's minds work just sounds alien to me, with regards to myself and with regards to other women I know well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 07:03 PM
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...but most of my exes are just like...my exes. I loved them once upon a time, they're discrete entities. I can't order them from like 1-4, who was best in bed etc. Yeah, this. If someone put a gun to my head and ordered me to rank my exes, I would first need to know by what measure I was ranking them (dick size? intelligence? ability to make post-coital scrambled eggs?) and then could go through my memories to do so. But this is in no way a thing that happens naturally in my mind. The idea that…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 07:01 PM
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Why is Rand's idea of what determines a man's value wrong and yours right? Who worships their equal? Makes no sense. Equals are your true friends, not someone you worship. What if I told you I could not 'worship' (it's emotive language in the quote, I get that, but I also see what she means and recognize my own feelings towards certain men) a man who didn't see me as an equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 06:58 PM
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SHUT UP YOU'RE RUINING EVERYTHING.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 06:57 PM
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I do not disagree with the idea that repeatedly performing a task will improve one's performance at the task. I do disagree with the idea that a person who lifts heavy objects all day is necessarily less intelligent than someone who analyzes data all day. 'Analyzes data as a career' is not enough, on its own, for me to conclude 'is intelligent.' 'Lifts heavy objects as a career' is also not enough, on its own, for me to conclude 'is not intelligent.'
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 06:56 PM
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Well FWIW I didn't think about or miss the gigantic dick when times weren't good with small-dick guy, either. That sort of thing, that kind of comparison, doesn't enter my mind. Exes generally aren't on my mind at all, especially short-term exes (like giant dick guy). In fact all of this talk from men is kind of making ME paranoid. So many men convinced that all women do this is starting to make me think that it's y'alls that do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 05:47 PM
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Dude, can I ask you a question? How many seconds did it take you to write off the commentary re: ''equal" as solippybippy? How long did you ponder your response?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 05:42 PM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 04:32 PM
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Ikr. I mean, me neither. It's just, you know, all those other people. The biased ppl. So annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 04:04 AM
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Dude. I'm sorry, but are you fucking kidding me? What does this even mean? The dude who lifts heavy objects all day is probably physically stronger? Yeah, he probably is. Are you positing some kind of correlation between physical strength and lack of intelligence? Are you positing that analyzing data (and seriously, could that be more vague? analyzing data? really? you really think that's enough to assume intelligence in the analyzer?) does to the brain what lifting heavy objects does to the mus…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 02:50 AM
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I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 02:43 AM
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Why is it ridiculous? Because it disagrees with your beliefs? FWIW, I'm a woman and i totally identify with what the poster you're talking to is saying. But women don't think that way, we don't organize our past lovers into a ladder forever and ever. This is true. I have literally never done this. I have never gone through any kind of thought process or conversation that entailed ranking exes. Each of my exes exists in isolation in my mind, as whole individuals. If someone asked me who was the '…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 02:39 AM
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It's weird how Dunning-Kruger always applies to other people, and not me. Don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 02:15 AM
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I was refering to guys who analyze data, design business models Doing these things doesn't necessarily = smart/intelligent. Do you analyze data well? Better than the others who analyze data well? Do you business models work/lead to success? Better than other business models? envision new conceots in theoretical physics How many men do this? I mean really do it, envision it, back it up etc.? I could not be sicker of this 'I work in STEM so I'm intelligent' stuff. STEM has its average people and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 02:11 AM
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Does this mean that men and women cannot be friends? I am awaiting clarification on this from one of the people on this sub who is more familiar with Rand's beliefs. Sounds like maybe they can be friends as long as she doesn't...ignore (?) his masculinity? Dunno.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 07:35 PM
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I'm not a neckbeard!!! (not saying shit about my gorilla legs tho). But c'mon, I want serious BP laydee answers. And if it helps, I think Ms. Rand is nutty, too. Just happen to (mostly) agree with the quoted material. Pls tell us what you think of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 07:32 PM
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Comments removed: trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 06:53 PM
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...women are kind of all alike. More similar than unique. And that most women are pretty stupid, none of them are that special, and besides the occasional fuck, none of them are really that fun or interesting. Just a question - would you say this applies to men, too? In the same way it does to women, in your view?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 05:24 PM
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Congrats on the blowjob!!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 11:48 PM
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I wouldn't know, but this is what I imagine and therefore this is reality: 11am: (hot people don't have to get up early: universal law): wake up 11am - noon: stare at self in mirror whilst laughing and masturbating noon: Get dressed, no need to worry about grooming as you will still be beautiful even if you have rat's nest hair and are covered in filth. Go shopping. Upon leaving the house, pick a couple of men from the crowd of male supplicants waiting on your doorstep to carry you from shop to …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:03 PM
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You understand that thinking a task is hard is not the same as hating or resenting it, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 05:40 PM
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the evidence is pretty clear that women benefit more from relationships until they reproduce, then the equation becomes increasingly imbalanced out of their favor What evidence (re: both of those claims)? Also, are you the Vornash who used to post here? I remember you! Welcome back if it's you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 05:33 PM
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Because I've seen it with my own eyes. But I haven't. That's my point. If I've seen one thing with my own eyes, and you've seen another with your own eyes, neither of us really has an incentive to change their beliefs based on those differing experiences (and my beliefs are, as mentioned, not solid due simply to the fact that 'what I've experienced' isn't a good enough reason to cultivate a solid belief in this case). You even point out, later in the post, that you specifically don't hang out wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 05:30 PM
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However it is far more common for a woman to leave her husband for an ex in general I don't believe this. I don't have any beliefs about which gender is more likely to leave a spouse/partner for an ex. Do you have a reason why I should believe womena re more likely to do so? why is that common enough to be a stereotype? If there is a stereotype of women being more likely to leave a relationship for an ex than men, then I am genuinely unaware of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 05:12 PM
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That doesn't really answer the question of "why," though. Because she's a crazy asshole is why. And the husband appeared to be unaware of that - or, if he was aware, unwilling to actually do anything (like call off the wedding) about it. Nobody here thinks crazy assholes don't exist, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 05:07 PM
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Of course everyone has it in them to behave selfishly sometimes. Probably very few human beings walking the earth who haven't acted selfishly at some point. But leaving you new spouse to get back together with your felon, meth-addicted ex? That shit isn't common. I just don't buy that 'but everyone has it in them to behave selfishly' (which I believe is true) = 'everyone has it in them to leave their new husband for their criminal, drug-addict ex.' That's RP paranoia world.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 05:02 PM
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Wouldn't we need the woman in question to show up in order to get any real information, though? It's literally all speculation on our parts at this point. Either the guy she married had a sense that something was up or he didn't. He doesn't say anything that makes me think he did. So if there were red flags (and there arguably were, including before the marriage ceremony took place). Is there anyone who wouldn't at least go 'huh' if they came upon their fiance/e, 1 week before the wedding date, …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 04:58 PM
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You think TRP loves traditional women??
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 02:46 AM
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So what's the contention here? That up until recently (when?) rape was a/the primary method of impregnating women? I'd like to see some evidence of that, if anyone has any. Conquering armies have always raped the conquered. Conquering armies raping the conquered has not, however, been a widespread method for human reproduction. Edit: and the comment you linked to re: females (not just human) having no say in who impregnated them as observed in nature is...not correct, imo. What you see in nature…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 07:59 PM
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Ha! Nice. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 04:48 PM
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The city where I live has a very large and very out-in-the-open gay community. That highly-aesthetic, openly behaviourally 'gay' type of man is a character I see frequently. And they fuckin' LOVE their form-fitted tops (all the better to show off those hard-earned muscles, I reckon). Us girls at least get some eye candy out of it. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/16 07:47 PM
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I don't understand what you're saying. Do children benefit from having large numbers of resource-rich adults who love them? Yes. But the first step to reproducing is, actually, the reproduction. That's the bottom level of that pyramid. That's step 1, that's what instinct drives (most of) us towards. You see this in the first world underclasses everywhere. The girls have multiple children by the time they're 19. They're not as focused on men as they are on having babies, and the babies tend to li…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/16 07:43 PM
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For example, thirsty men providing excessive validation and support to women who do little more than post selfies and repost some quote about "If you can't handle me at my worst..." - this makes it very easy for women to never have to raise the bar. They keep getting attention just for existing. Men themselves need to step up here and demand better, not simply from women, but from themselves. I don't disagree (just getting that disclaimer in first so you don't think I'm looking for an argument) …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/16 07:34 PM
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pfff nothing could be more core than that. The base-level instinct is to reproduce. For both sexes. Women's base-level instinct is to be impregnated. Men's is to impregnate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/16 07:13 PM
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If I was the RP charming Casanova who throws negs and compliments alike, which I'm not claiming to be, that's okay too right? Of course it's 'okay.' I don't think I understand what you're asking me here. This is none of my business how some random dude decides to hit on women. Have at it. If doing a mating dance around her car works for you, then that's okay too. If it doesn't work, it's still okay. it does seem you feel disgust. Not disgust. Mild embarrassment on the behalf of the dude spitting…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/16 07:09 PM
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It works. Eventually. Maybe I strike out with a few women cause they're not in the mood. Wait, what? I thought you were saying "women aren't individuals, literally all of them go for muscley dudes who use these pick-up lines on them." Are you actually saying "If I start using pick-up lines on women, whilst having muscles and wearing a fitted tee, eventually one of them will go for it?" If it's the latter, then I agree with you. Eventually you'll find one who will go for it. But that doesn't real…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/16 07:00 PM
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Tight t-shirt + muscles reads gay to me. Huge gay pop. where I live and this is a verrrry common look. Those Jersey Shore dudes, other than the woman-fucking, seemed totally gay to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/16 06:54 PM
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"I thought girls were pretty here until I met you", aw I'm just kidding, hugs, automatic kino. This isn't real life. This is a scene in a movie, included to set up the PUA character as a jerk/object of ridicule. Now, I'm not saying this has never worked but honestly? Lines like this are pure cringe. I reckon if this kind of line is working for a man, the woman who's going home with him (muscles, dressed well - he's hot, right?) are going home with him in spite of the line, not because of it. As …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/16 07:50 AM
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Warning: everything I'm about to say is my opinion only and could very possibly be partially wrong. I've lived in the UK and spent chunks of my childhood there so i feel somewhat qualified to comment on the situation there vs the US (have not lived in the US but, you know, as a Canadian I get exposed to a LOT of US media and am familiar with a lot of the issues being discussed there). I think there are a couple, maybe 3 main contributing factors to the differences between the US and the UK. Slav…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 09:06 PM
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Sorry, I should probably have separated that paragraph into two. The sentence you're quoting was in reference to the US situation - in the US it appears that poor black (?) boys do the worst. In the UK, the situation is different: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/34667100/poor-white-boys-get-a-worse-start-in-life-says-equality-report (check out the embedded table for hard info) This is a confluence of factors - gender, race AND class. Nationality also appears to come into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 08:02 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/34667100/poor-white-boys-get-a-worse-start-in-life-says-equality-report There's a link to the UK info - this was a huge story last year in the British media.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 07:57 PM
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Oh dear oh dear oh dear oh dear!!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 08:33 PM
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Heh heh, this made me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 08:31 PM
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On the PPD Butthurt Scale? 9.78/10? It was 9.78/10 wasn't it? Sorrynotsorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 08:28 PM
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You judge people based on their movie tastes? How weird. I am being light-hearted in this convo, I hope you know that. I am also aware of the fact that my personal tastes are not objective in any way. So yes, I think Crash was a huge cinematic turd of epic proportions but I wouldn't actually think less of someone for liking it. Might think they have bad taste but I have bad taste in lots of things, too, so no biggie.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 08:27 PM
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Yep, I think this is most men. Most of them under 35-ish, anyway. And it's perfectly fine and the effort is appreciated! One thing about getting older is some men get superhuman control over their orgasms. It's one benefit to aging.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 08:25 PM
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Thank you, Captain Obvious. ;p
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 08:23 PM
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You liked Crash?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 08:23 PM
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it all comes back to men and their egos for women Only because, oftentimes, it really does come down to the male ego. Men, due to anatomy and basic physiology, have a performance burden during sex that women don't have. That isn't anyone's fault. Do I believe that men are encouraged, in some ways, by some people, to view sex as a favour women are doing for them? To hang their self-worth on how many orgasms they give her? Sure. But I also think there's lizard-brain/non-socialized stuff at play he…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 08:21 PM
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I won't attribute anything extra to them just for being women, and I especially won't attribute anything extra to them just because they hold the promise of sex. Cool, I'm not asking you to. No problem with this at all. Apparently it's an intoxicating aroma, because the less special care I showed towards women, the more turned on by me they seemed to be... I think we might be talking at cross-purposes here. Based on your two responses just now. I'm not advocating some kind of laydee-worship here…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 08:14 PM
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Absolutely no problem with this/am in favour of it. If people want an all-girls school then they need to get together and work towards it, just as I presume the people behind this all-boys school did. I don't like the tendency to think that because group A got something, that equals a loss for group B. Public funding for an all-girls school would, I presume, be equal to that provided to the all-boys school. One thing I think gets left out of these discussions at PPD, because we're so focused on …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 08:09 PM
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I'm not disagreeing with you at all - I'm just saying my single personal experience is not, in and of itself, proof of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 05:47 PM
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I'm not claiming objectivity! It's weird because we're silly females and he is logickal male but he's the one making the "I feel like it's true and so it is" mistake, rather than the "this is what I think, others may think differently" that we're doing. And yeah, re: femininity. There's another PPD post to be made here but I know that as far as I've experienced men seem to go through a lot more insecurity and doubt as to their masculinity when compared to women and doubt re: their femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 05:27 PM
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What kind of source is that?! it looks like a study...but it doesn't appear to be. Anyway, i think there's some truth to what you posted (obvs) but i also think it's a lot more complex than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 05:23 PM
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I am a bit skeptical that it is necessarily exactly the same for all women. As you should be. My post wasn't meant in any way to be a "this is how it is for me so this is how it is for all women" thing at all. I consider myself to be a high sex drive woman, too. Twice a day (most of the month) would be perfect. During the dick-obsessed days I think every waking moment would be optimal (although I accept that this is physically impossible and might cause mutual injury and is therefore probably no…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 05:22 PM
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Oh my god, you would have sex with someone who likes 'Crash'?! UGH. That's almost worse than liking Crash.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 05:16 PM
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Well, tbf, it isn't 'science' - it's just one woman's thoughts on her specific sexuality. So sample size of 1, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 05:16 PM
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Yeah, male/male friendships this may very well apply. I like observing that male dynamic, between men. It's so endearing, and you guys do it so differently to the way a lot of women do. Men can be very close, supportive friends and yet still lack basic (to a woman) info on the other guy's life. It's not a criticism at all, it just interests me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 05:14 PM
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I don't get to say this often in PPD but this discussion was going well and you're lowering the tone. Stahp pls.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 05:10 PM
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I prefer video porn (although literally 1 out of 100 videos will do anything for me so it's a bitch trying to find the right stuff - I have odd, specific tastes) to either erotica OR still photos but truthfully my imagination is better than any of them and is usually what I use.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 05:09 PM
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And you still manage (I assume) to feed yourself and do your laundry and probably even have a job!! Baffling! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 05:08 PM
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Plus you always go to the bathroom in groups, for alien plotting. We're trading recipes! And admiring each other's nails! And anyone who says we're not, and that we're in fact plotting the subjugation of all men...IS LYING.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 05:00 PM
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I need to see how a man moves, how he sounds and holds himself, interacts with his environment. Certain physical movements can just flip a switch for me. Yes, this exactly. I love the way some men sit. The way in which they take up space in the world. Just makes me wanna eat them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 04:59 PM
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And it is completely true that the more experienced you become, the more women "don't mean shit" This is definitely sometimes true. But the other kind of man exists, too. The one who gets laid a lot and who genuinely enjoys and likes women. He doesn't pedestalize etc. because he knows that women are just people with all the weaknesses and flaws that people have but he also doesn't have that 'women ain't shit' attitude, at all. And women can smell this on men - which type we're dealing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 04:53 PM
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They've learnt to master their orgasm reflex so don't cum as soon as they get excited No one has mentioned this and I agree with it. Many men do this thing where the second a woman shows arousal (moaning, grabbing etc.) they come. A man being able to control that reflex response is HUGE. If I was a man I would jerk off once or twice before having sex so I wasn't on a hair-trigger during it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 04:51 PM
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Frankly, I don't understand why you're trying to argue what alpha/beta is when you very obviously don't have any kind of clear definition to work from. I suspect she's arguing because she doesn't agree with you. I argued with you last week for the same reason. You're free to conflate Type A and Type B personalities with 'alpha male' and 'beta male' but you're the only person I've seen doing that. And you aren't the authority on it. No one is obliged to simply buy your definition because you beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 04:44 PM
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I think there's a difference between the guy who is obsessed about a woman's orgasm to the point where it is painfully obvious his ego is deeply intertwined with it - that's one time when women will fake it - and the guy who acknowledges that two people are involved in the sex and it would be great if both those people got off from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 04:42 PM
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Men who are reciprocal lovers tend to be alphas. I disagree that it's the drive to prove your masculinity and/or seek validation that makes one alpha -- most RP guys who are really beta or even omega have a huge drive to prove their masculinity...Imo, alphas have less drive to seek validation than betas. When you're already masculine, you're not so focused on proving yourself. I agree with this - and I've discussed the concept of 'alpha' with this guy before - we disagree to the extent that what…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 04:33 PM
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Well you're right in that one sex is alien-like, but you're wrong in that you think it's women. It's definitely men. How can you want to have sex with some woman you've only seen a photo of? What if she sounds like a gnu when she laughs? What if her feet smell? What if she likes the movie Crash?!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 04:10 AM
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My answer: I don't know. How could I? My general feeling on this question is that it's too broad. Way too broad. When I listen to men talking about their sexuality, their sex drives etc., it often strikes as, well, very male. And therefore somewhat alien. And I think a lot of people, male and female, automatically assume that the way they experience a thing (for example, sex drive) is the way other people experience the same thing. A lot of men on this sub seem to make all kinds of assumptions a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 03:03 AM
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Tnx. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 02:40 AM
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Just clicked that link... Men on average experience greater frequency and intensity of sexual desire than women. Which study spoke to intensity? I gave ti a read-through and am probably missing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 02:25 AM
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Yes, ofc. I always do this. Just pause every 15 seconds, stand up, get in his face and shout: "DO YOU CONSENT TO CONTINUED ORAL STIMULATION OF YOUR GENITALS?!" Job done. Real answer: I never do this and even a non-shouting question would feel odd. That said, I've also never met a man who didn't seem to enjoy blowjobs. I mean, you can tell he's into it without him verbally stating that fact, you know? If a man ever went silent and started weeping mid-beej I might pause for a few seconds to ask wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 10:53 PM
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Well I guess 'boring' is in the eye of the beholder. So is 'weak.' So are many things we perceive in/from others. I'm reading through the responses in this thread and seeing a few different takes. One seems to be taking 'banter and jokes' as intentional cruelty, in every instance. Another could be seeing banter and jokes as always lighthearted, never cruel. But isn't it one or the other, depending on context (i.e. the people having the interaction)? And aren't you British? How do you even functi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 10:38 PM
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No jokes or banter ever? Under any circumstances? You're a very serious man, yoradicalone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 09:17 PM
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you should make sure in no uncertain terms, she knows never to display such behaviour towards you under any circumstance, no jokes, no banterous oneupmanship Is this how you actually feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 08:52 PM
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but you are also forgetting the things they don't even want to conceal. I'm not forgetting them, I just consider them sort of obvious - and I agree with everything you've said, btw. 'Red pill flags' can be seen in many men, including ones who have never heard of the manosphere or the RP community. It's what you said - you can tell what people believe based on how they act, and 'how they act' is such an all-encompassing thing. As others in this thread have mentioned it would be a lot of constant …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 08:12 PM
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It's the new thing, Atlas. And you started it! RPW: RP men are weak babbies. RPMen: RPW are thousand-cock-staring sluuuuuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 07:38 PM
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Those dastardly RPWs! What will they come up with next?! My advice to all men when encountering a RPW is to find a hiding place immediately and stay there until the danger has passed and/or become distracted by a carbonated beverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 07:34 PM
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I just don't date men who are retarded. Lesson: there's more than one way to skin a red pill cat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 07:21 PM
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HE'S SAYING YOU'RE ALL WHORES.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 07:19 PM
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OK. This comes up a lot. And you need to give information on time-frame. Are most people going to be able to pick out a red piller within a couple of hours of meeting them, especially if said red piller is intent on concealing his red pilliness? Probably not. How about 10 hours? Depends on the deception skillz of the red piller. But at a certain point, you do begin, through the natural progression of getting to know another human being, to get a feel for them. Most people are unaware of 'red pil…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 07:02 PM
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It probably technically would be. I guess I was speaking of the specific 'two people are going to bang but the dude doesn't want to use a condom' situations. Goddamned spermfoisters. Leave us innocent ladies alooooone! ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 07:26 PM
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You're in the UK, right? I think things are a little different there. My British FWB told me that almost all the single women he knew at uni were on the pill specifically due to the casual sex factor (i.e. they knew they were going to have it, they knew both parties were likely to be drunk and they knew a condom wasn't always going to be available/wanted - and the pill was a pre-emptive measure). Women on the pill are probably more likely to be OK with condomless sex. since she didn't get pregge…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 07:22 PM
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Ime, sexually 'liberal' girls are not all about dickheads. Insecure girls who are sleeping around to prove themselves and affirm their desirability do tend to be, though. Fucking THIS. We almost never have this discussion on PPD and it's a good one. There are different kinds of sluts - male and female. I have known both, of both genders. The desperately insecure (not a slam or a claim I am not insecure - I'm human, I have insecurities, but I think there are people out there who seemed ruled by t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 07:03 PM
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It doesn't matter if doing X impresses men, too, or if doing Y pisses off men, too, or if men are like A, B, C, or any combination of the 3. It doesn't matter at TRP (and that's me conceding the point for the sake of argument - I in no way believe that there aren't a lot of men at TRP who wholly believe/take at face value the 'men good, women bad' rhetoric). It does matter here, the place where we debate TRP, BP, male and female sexuality and ways of being etc. 'Men good, women bad' (and vice-ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 06:55 PM
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Nothing about this surprises me. It's almost kind of endearing. On some levels. Sometimes. Probably gets to be a PITA for you, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 02:57 AM
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It also doesn't appear that a rational cost-benefit analysis was playing out in the decision-making HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA. I've seen RP men doing this, too. "Women are all about the feels, it's all about what feels right to them. Not like me, a man who makes all my decisions based on logick." The level of self-delusion just makes me shake my head. Men can't think straight when there's a hot woman around. And for all the online talk of spermjacking real life seems to be the exact opposite - sperm - u…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 02:55 AM
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Au pairing pays very little - it's live-in and designed for very young women to get some time abroad. I was 17 and I did it because it allowed me to live in central London without having money or work experience. Nannying pays a lot more, doesn't involve housework (au pair housework is 'light' - no disgusting cleaning tasks etc., the family usually employs someone else for that) and isn't usually live-in - although you do often get to travel with the family when they go on holiday. A lot of youn…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 01:26 AM
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with all the laws and 'political correctness', women are benefitting substantially in that men's animalistic nature to draw on one of their main advantages (physical strength) has no currency anymore and men just aren't as engaged in violence with each other like they once were and as a result there are lots of extra/surplus men around Laws and political correctness - nah. More like capitalism and technological advancement. This is one of the questions of our era - what happens to 'traditional' …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 07:03 PM
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With children? No way. Little kids/infants + house/family maintenance is pretty much every waking moment. I worked as an au pair for six months before becoming a nanny - the difference is a nanny is responsible for childcare only and an au pair is responsible for many housekeeping tasks AND childcare. That was all-day, 7am-10pm. There was never a free moment. Infants and toddlers need literal constant monitoring and engagement, especially once they're mobile/in the trying-to-kill-themselves-cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 06:44 PM
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But still - you know nothing of this person or her relationship. You have no idea if it will work out or not. It's OK, Atlas, we don't have to discuss this, I just don't think your original comment was fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 02:01 AM
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Hypergamy as RP describes it doesn't exist. Any human being, regardless of their own attractiveness and given a choice between thing 1 and thing 2 (where things 1 and 2 are the same thing, but 1 is just a much more attractive option) is going to pick thing 1. Shinier apple, more flawless diamond, hotter partner. The sole reason women sometimes bang hotter men is because they can. If men could choose between a 6 and an 8 (and lots can), they'd choose the eight every time, just like women do. Male…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 01:59 AM
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But why assume this relationship is going to be over within the next 10 years? Why say it like that (the 'psh, call me in 10 yrs' is something I see a lot here, usually directed at non-RPs who claim to be in generally happy relationships)? Nothing the OP said indicated any disharmony in her relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 01:53 AM
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Why do you say this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 01:30 AM
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I don't get how women and BPers deny it. Deny what? 80/20 or the general rule that very attractive people of both sexes are going to have way more opportunities for casual sex than their less attractive peers? Because the latter seems obvious to me and I doubt you'd find anyone, including any bloops, who deny it. Also, this is Tinder. This is an environment designed specifically to facilitate casual sex. These aren't random women running errands during the daytime. These are women who are explic…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 06:39 PM
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/u/lollygagyo (hope I spelled that right), also /u/spacewhiskey Reasons: I appreciate both for their continuing displays of good faith in a place that often lacks it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 08:17 PM
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Oh ITA re: Daniel Craig. And you're right, the appeal is very similar to Rooney's. Yay there are at least 3 of us. Probably more than a dozen worldwide!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 07:36 PM
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The Hemsworth brothers. The actor who plays John Snow. Cumberbatch and Hiddleston (the latter can wear the shit out of a suit, I'll give him that, but I still don't fancy him). Brad Pitt (he's all puffy with fillers now but even when he was younger I wasn't into his pretty flowing locks - the best he's ever looked is in Fight Club).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 07:07 PM
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Nope, would still pick Rooney.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 07:04 PM
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The thing is though, if you're in to guys who have the social status, accomplishments and wealth of a Man U player, you have multiple Man U players to choose from. So it's not so much that those things can't make (some) people find that person more attractive, its just you know.... why that one? I'll tell you why, speaking as an unabashed and total Wayne Rooney worshipper. What it isn't: His $. If Wayne Rooney was the same man he is with zero $, I would still fancy him just as much as I do right…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 07:04 PM
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I find this metaphor that women = guns very, very strange. You know, this is one o those things that I constantly let slide here but thank you for saying this. The women as guns metaphor is fucking weird. One of those things is an inanimate tool designed to kill people. The other is...not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 03:57 PM
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I live in Canada You're Canadian? Or just temporarily living here?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 01:30 PM
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I can't believe I have conversations like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 03:35 AM
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Why do you think this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 03:34 AM
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If they are naturally gay they probably have higher levels of estrogen. I don't think this is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 01:50 AM
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No, I think homosexuality can be induced and that it causes suffering because it comes with hormone imbalance that leaves you unable to function sexually. Wat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 01:45 AM
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Do you know who's picky? Everyone. Do you know who would literally fuck anything with a hole/dick? Practically no one. Observing that human beings are selective about who they wish to have sex with is in no way the same thing as stating that these picky people owe anyone else their sexual attraction. Most women don't want to have sex with obese, ugly men. Most men don't want to have sex with obese, ugly women. And neither of those two statements implies anything those obese, ugly people somehow …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 07:19 PM
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I don't have time to watch a 90 minute video but the fact that a random Youtuber uses the words the same way you do isn't enough to convince me that this is the definition of alpha (or beta).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 07:27 PM
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Wagon Wheels are actually disgusting. That flabbery layer of 'marshmallow.' shudder If that guy had switched out Wagon Wheels for Billot Logs he would have been hitting me where it hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 07:10 PM
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Is this Alain de Botton's project? Ew.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 05:55 PM
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Wtf, OP, you had me thinking May had called an election. I clicked over to the BBC site in a panic. I would expect TRP to lean towards UKIP if anything. I'll vote for the person/party who promises to deliver daily truckloads of cash to the NHS.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 04:57 PM
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Corbyn is as close to an actual socialist as the UK has seen (in some kind of power) for a long time. He's probably unelectable because of it but holy fuck does Labour need to get its shit together before the next election.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 04:53 PM
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Zee OH DEAR.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 04:47 PM
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However, there is a fine line between a healthy pursuit and being a creep. I agree, and where people draw that line is probably going to differ depending on who you're asking. Creeps exist, I do not dispute that. I do not think creeps are common. One of the reasons they stand out is their ineptness/creepiness. As for 'healthy pursuit' - again, that's going to differ based on who you ask. When I think of aggressive male pursuit of a woman I am definitely not thinking of 'male pursuit as something…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 04:44 PM
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If Trump at 25 was the same on the inside as Trump at 70 (and given what I've read about it him it seems to be a fair assumption) I wouldn't have found him attractive then, either. I don't think the man is good-looking but most of the repulsion comes from his personality. For me, anyway. You don't think that if he was on a desert island that he could use those skills to get guys behind him and emerge at the top of the heap? As for this, no, I honestly don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 04:32 PM
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You don't have to be attracted to Alphas, I've never at any point made this claim throughout the time I have debated here. I'm not saying you have. I'm just saying that, to me, an 'alpha male' is generally attractive to women. Women want to sleep with him. The term becomes somewhat useless to me if it doesn't include being highly fuckable. And I know the whole 'alpha doesn't mean good and beta doesn't mean bad' is now a thing here, but there's a reason you see only one of those words used a posi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 04:26 PM
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I'm not moralizing, I'm describing what I personally find attractive in men. I specifically do not find pettiness and insecurity attractive, that's all. If someone else does, that is 100% fine, I won't make any effort to change their mind, nor will I somehow think they're 'bad' people for doing so. Same thing with the dude in question, I'm not condemning him as 'bad' for being petty/insecure/etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 04:10 PM
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See previous reply. This idea of alpha males as insecure, over-sensitive humans constantly on the verge of OTT aggression is just not one I accept. You are free to do so, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 04:02 PM
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See my OP: we have no set, agreed-upon definition of 'alpha.' You're giving me your conception of an alpha male. My conception obviously differs. That's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 04:01 PM
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It refers to dominance. A dominant man bangs women, women don't bang him. If a woman is banging him then she is the dominant one, hence he is not alpha. I don't see how this is difficult for you to understand. I wasn't using 'women want to bang him' as a comment on who would be taking the 'banger' and 'bangee' role during sex. It meant 'women want to get naked with him.' And I agree that alpha is dominance (but as I've said to others in this thread, we'd almost certainly disagree on who is and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 04:00 PM
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Sigh. FINE.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 02:47 AM
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Chicks with BPD? That's how alphas act? Atlas...come onnnnnn.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 02:45 AM
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I'm a laydee! offended face
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 02:43 AM
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Alpha = attractive/women want to bang him. I specifically asked for women's personal takes on this quality. I don't see any reason to believe that poster is deceiving herself about what she finds attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 02:43 AM
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dominant male Dude, that has everything to do with what makes women tingly. Although now I suppose we won't agree on who is and who is not dominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 02:41 AM
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Trump is to genuine moguls what reality TV stars are to Liz Taylor. He's pure fromage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 02:39 AM
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That's kind of a specific scenario though. I would assume somebody with survivorship skills would become a leader in that situation. It's specific but that's the shit right there. That's the lizard-brain-triggering, panty-melting caveman stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 02:37 AM
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Atlas y u gotta be like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 02:33 AM
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Alpha/beta was originally about type A/type B personalities, which is fairly established in psychology. Is that true? I don't think I've ever seen anyone on PPD use 'alpha' and 'beta' that way. I also just looked up the Wikipedia page for Type-A and Type-B personalities and there was no mention of alpha or beta. Do you have a link?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 02:28 AM
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Pursuing women for sex is normal, esp for young, healthy males. Pursuing sexual/physical relationships with women. Even trying to push women for sex, trying to charm and convince etc. I feel like these days it's frowned upon for a man to aggressively pursue a woman (unless she's given him a clear, serious and definitive no).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 02:27 AM
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to me, those are true strengths; things to be admired. the 'alpha' who never apologies, never admits fault or acknowledges he makes mistakes, and just tries to be the dominant over everyone around him is not remotely attractive to me. This is close to how I feel about it, too. Admiration is definitely part of attraction to a man, for me. I admire men who have worked hard and honestly in their lives, who have faced and overcome difficulties and taken responsibility for themselves. The never-wrong…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 02:25 AM
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The things that make a man attractive to me differ from the things you think make a man attractive. That's OK, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 02:17 AM
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Did you just call me fat? You just called me fat didn't you? Well that's my feelings hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 02:15 AM
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I don't have any conception of alpha males besides that from what they are described as they seem like giant assholes. OK, let's use "extremely, viscerally attractive to Princeso_Bubblegum" then. What kind of man is that, to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 09:09 PM
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Stick him on a deserted island with other men. He does not have access to his resources and has to rely on himself. Who comes out on top? ITA. Yep. This is very close to my own idea of 'alpha,' too. In fact we should probably hatch a plan to make this island a reality so we can supremely shit-test our men using your method. ;) he wouldn't come out on top, both literally and figuratively. Ha!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 09:08 PM
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I am not making an argument here. There isn't one to be made, except based on personal feels, which is what you're doing, too. There's nothing that says alphas are naturally more stoic than betas because there's nothing (beyond individual opinions) that says alphas are anything. I find stoicism (to a degree, it can go too far) alpha. As for 50's husbands I'm sure some were alpha and some weren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 09:06 PM
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I agree that the culture is less-friendly to male sexuality right now than in the past. A lot of perfectly normal behaviours have been demonized as rapey or too-aggressive. That's not an encouraging factor when it comes to men doing their man thing and trying to get laid. Not sure what could be done about this, it's a very heated topic - even bringing it up will rile people who belong to certain feminist factions. Also don't think excessive porn use is in any way healthy, especially for young me…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 09:03 PM
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See, you've hit something on the head here. Imo a man who wouldn't be alpha without his family name (or money or status etc. etc.) is by definition not alpha. And the son of a labourer with no status or money can out-alpha a billionaire.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 08:55 PM
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How is Trump any of that? I don't think he's any of those things, but I'm not really making a 'Trump is beta, CMV' type argument here. I'm not making any argument, just asking for thoughts. The idea that alphas are always stoic and rational is false. Well, no one is stoic and rational ALL the time but I disagree that these aren't alpha traits. Which is OK (the disagreement) - it's what I'm getting at with this post in a sense - the differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 08:53 PM
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I don't subscribe to the idea that the world can so easily be divided into two groups Yeah, I don't either. It's hard to have this discussion for that reason. And for the fact that my 'omg, must fuck this man with now' is another woman's 'ugh, wtf.' Most importantly, he has situational confidence - as in, he knows when to defer to others, including me. Totally agreed. Confidence when I don't see a reason for it is actually specifically a turn-off for me. No one knows everything, and being secure…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 08:52 PM
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I guess you've answered the question (i.e. what is alpha to you?) but I specifically didn't post this so we could get into another interminable "these traits are alpha" "no these traits are, you're wrong" "no u" etc. There is no source we can refer to here for a concrete definition of 'alpha'. What you think is alpha is just as valid as what anyone else thinks. Part of the problem here, imo, is that women do actually have 'types' that they're attracted to. And 'alpha' is very often used to mean …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 08:48 PM
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We are obsessed with self-esteem and confidence. I agree, but oddly enough I think the way society has gone about consciously raising children to have 'self esteem' has produced the exact opposite of what it intended. I think self-esteem and confidence are extremely important, but I think those things come, at least partially, from actual hard work and actual achievement and not from participation ribbons and telling all children, even those who are mediocre or below at activity X, that they're …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 03:44 PM
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Oh well done! Thanks. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 03:11 PM
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Are you being sarcastic? I specifically said I was gonna mention the exchange in the future and you said it was fine. It was on my old, deleted account, too, so I cannae track it down. It'll be in your history unless you deleted it in shame (shame...shame...).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 01:38 AM
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You think Donald Trump is alpha?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 01:36 AM
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pounds ditchwater
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 01:34 AM
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Yeah, perfectly fine. In fact if it was a dude I was into I'd think it was hot. Fantasy is fantasy. Although now that I've said that I think there are reasons for it I'd find unattractive, and others I'd find attractive. But yeah, it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 01:32 AM
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Oh, I agree with this. If AWALT literally means 'not AWALT' (and it was our RP mod alreadyredpillschool who I got this from) then there's nothing to argue, except perhaps the usefulness of employing terms that mean the exact opposite thing to what they state, ofc. Also, if this 'AWALT = not AWALT' is the case then I would hope to see RP types pointing this out in discussions when it's being used incorrectly. Buuuut I don't think that's gonna happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 09:20 PM
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So the bad news is, you don't exist. And the worse news is we can't give badges to people who don't exist. Sorry. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 06:19 AM
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You aren't a Christian.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 06:17 AM
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It is a crime (in Canada anyway, I assume there's similar legislation in the US?) to threaten death or bodily harm. Under the Criminal Code, it is an offence to knowingly utter or convey a threat to cause death or bodily harm to any person. It is also an offence to threaten to burn, destroy or damage property or threaten to kill, poison or injure an animal or bird that belongs to a person. The offence of utter death threat may be prosecuted by summary conviction or by indictment. If prosecuted b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 06:14 AM
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That is definitely not what Jesus would say!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 06:08 AM
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OP, either you're telling the truth or you're not. If you are: then you're stupid/a liar and/or don't know your own mind If you aren't: AWALT I have it on good (i.e. red pill PPD mod) that AWALT literally means NAWALT and that it's a deliberate hyperbole used in service of getting young men to shove women off a pedestal they've placed them on. In which case - not AWALT? We can all just drop this? The problem with AWALT in terms of 'female nature' is that we have no solid definition of 'female na…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 06:07 AM
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You're doing that thing where you talk to a stranger and assume that the ways you think are the ways they think. I would say I'm interested that an internet rando knows my mind but I've gotten used to it from hanging out here too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 02:07 AM
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You know that look men sometimes get on their face where you can just tell all brain activity just flatlined whilst thinking about car parts or some other manly thing when you need them to give you some $$ or attention? A good punch in the dick never fails to snap 'em right out of it. So my stance is: OK, but only when the male (or a not-me female) is on the receiving end of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 02:05 AM
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It is true for you too, and everyone else in this sub. No it isn't. This: no matter what anyone tells me, anytime, my mind won't be changed. is only true for dummies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 09:07 PM
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Dat Christ-like compassion!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 08:58 PM
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It’s true what you say that there is less diversity in the opinions held by women. This is confirmed by the research which shows that women conform more than men, and further supported by the evidence which demonstrates that men tend to think in a more abstracted fashion, rather than with their lizard brain. After all, one of the biggest red pill gripes with women is their solipsism. Can you link these studies, please?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 06:25 PM
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I think Asian guy looks like the most fun/funniest. None of them look particularly smart or dumb, to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 02:11 AM
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Well that's disappointing. A video I watched earlier indicated to me that literally all ppl in your state pronounce it "do-nit" and it was the most hilarious thing. Now I need to ask Griddy. Donits. It doesn't sound too funny, but it totally was.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 02:09 AM
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Can you do me a favour, Atlas? This is a real question and the favour is small. Edit: I will ask the favour now so we don't totally shit up the thread. Can you spell out, phonetically, the way you pronounce the word 'doughnut'?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 02:04 AM
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Why are so many bloops into this guy?! He's my least favrit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 02:03 AM
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Well the good news is we will never have to fistfight each other in an alley over a man. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 01:59 AM
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Yeah, of all of them he is by far the most personable-looking. Some of them look downright awkward-as-shit but that guy looks cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 01:59 AM
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Don't me nice to me, Atlas, it makes me feel all odd!!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 01:58 AM
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SMV is just sexual, right? Like, at what age are dudes the sexiest, taking nothing else into account? I'm gonna say 22. A surprising number of men start going to seed early - it was around 25-26 that slight beer bellies and receding hairlines started appearing. One notable exception to this is a specific type of chubby dude that was also a chubby kid. A subsection of these guys gets very sexy around 27 when the chub finally gives way to testosterone. These guy are often naturally big/muscular an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 01:57 AM
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More potatoes for me!!! (although I actually wouldn't say #1 is a potato - he is the least attractive one, tied with nordic teen girl guy)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 01:40 AM
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I dig the glasses though. These comments are funny - i.e. seeing other ppls taste-quirks. I specifically didn't like this guys glasses at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 01:37 AM
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Because it is! What I think = science!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 01:36 AM
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You say 'potato' like it's a bad thing. Potacist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 01:34 AM
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Looks oddly like Gaylubeoil minus the muscles and plus hipster glasses. 4/10 - 25 Not a terrible face, but he looks like he still has some baby fat, will look better when a few years older or post gainz. 5/10 - 23 I sometimes like skinny/tall brown men. Bad hair but not bad raw materials. 6/10 - 26 looks like a mopey jewish dude, not pretty but this guy could look WAY better with more muscle (i.e. facial definition) and better hair 4.5/10 - 25 not my type at all, has the ingredients to be pretty…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 01:32 AM
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I am actually feeling secondhand embarrassment for you right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 01:26 AM
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Read the rest of the back and forth between these two - one of them literally compares AF/BB to the theory of gravity (and neither of them provides a link to this 'scientific proof' of AF/BB - but you already knew that). Omfg, this place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 01:22 AM
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You don't honestly believe TRP promotes the opposite of masculinity do you? In general, yes, I do believe this (not entirely, let me be clear about that). I find a lot of TRP to be the opposite of 'traditional masculinity.'
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 10:05 PM
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First of all, you seem to believe that just because some, maybe even most RP men posting on the internet say "women are stupid and don't know their own minds" that we all believe the same. That is an incorrect assumption. No, Sardonis, I don't think ARPALT - I am usually very careful to be clear about that, too, so I apologize if I skipped it this time. And nothing about your marriage is anything I think of as 'bad' or 'wrong' - from what you say it seems to be going very well - you're one of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 10:03 PM
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Just read our exchange (the one between me and Archwinger) - it's all in there. I do think he's hamstering. He does not. Neither of us can prove it. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 08:00 PM
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Thank you. My inbox has been pre-lubed in preparation for the onslaught. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 07:59 PM
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Yeah, you're right, we just disagree on some fundamentals and aren't going to be able to argue each other out of those disagreements. And we;ve managed to do it without calling each other retarded cunts. Mods? Gold star pls? ONS I really have no trouble believing it's possible to hide that one thinks all kind of negative shit about women but is capable of hiding it. Longer term, it's probably possible depending on acting skill etc., as you mention, but I am highly doubtful many men could pull th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 07:57 PM
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telling women that the choice they make is wrong because you don't agree with it based on "women should be X" I haven't said any such thing. That isn't what I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 07:52 PM
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You're doing it, too. To put it simply I in absolutely no way buy that 'TRP men' = 'masculine men.' In fact i believe something closer to the opposite. The assumption that anyone is saying "only damaged women are attracted to masculine men" is incorrect. I haven't seen anyone here claim anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 07:50 PM
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Why do you assume it does? Because it's what I've seen (and I'll caution you against going on a 'but that doesn't prove anything' rant - you're right that it doesn't prove anything, but a huge amount of TRP is based on 'because it's what we've seen,' too). The people around me who are constantly in a state of romantic chaos, bitching and complaining about all men being assholes/all women being crazy bitches are the very people who seem partly or wholly incapable of a)being attracted to decent pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 07:46 PM
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TRP behaviors are “attractive” for one simple reason: Women have sex with you more often when you exhibit them. Maybe. As I said - I'm not convinced there's much at play with ONS beyond the basics of being good-looking and not an obvious psycho (for either sex). There are two issues here: 1.TRP behaviour. What is this? Even TRPers themselves often disagree. When it's made anodyne, as you did above: confident guys (e.g., assholes) who are attractive to other women (e.g., dread game), stick to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 07:38 PM
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Don't. You know how human beings work. You know if I went to some other gender-issues sub and posted "All men are selfish, insecure narcissists" that it would cause a shitstorm. And you know why, too. Because most of the people reading it would, yes, assume that the word "men" was an indication that I was talking exclusively about men (and not about women). To pop up like a weasel throughout that conversation with "oh, I mean women can be those bad things too but that's not what I'm talking abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 05:38 PM
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Literally all of TRP content can be replaced by "look above-average and talk to a lot of girls" This is from the OP and it's correct. Especially in ONS situations. Speaking to someone for <2 hours and then having sex with them isn't long enough (for either party) to get a real handle on the personality of the other person. You don't really know if that master's degree having hottie has healthy self-esteem, just as she doesn't really know if you have a 'masculine' personality. Faking a personalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 05:21 PM
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Yeah, this is terrible - and now up for discussion to be posted on depthub. ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 04:24 PM
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This should not be posted to depthub. This is next-level RP hamstering and yes, I'm going to respond, just wanted to register my brief opinion re: depthub.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 04:23 PM
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I can't say that being in a harem is a goal but in an ideal world I wouldn't mind a harem of my own. One guy I love and who loves me + a series of 20 year old dudes I could just bang whenever I felt like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 07:59 PM
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In college I worked the perfume counter I'm restraining myself quite hard from grilling you about this experience. (am perfume collector/obsessive). Just answer one question - what was the most-purchased perfume at the time? EDIT: Ha, that sounds like I'm questioning you in some way. I'm not! Just actual curiosity! I worked at a pharmacy as a student and it was the same thing re: sore feet. At least they insisted we all wore those ugly, squishy shoes - they helped a little. Now I get to sit down…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 07:27 PM
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Well, it sounds like they're trying for a different kind of space over there. Red Pill bans people for violating their space-rules, too. You're not going to get much argument here, fwiw. No one is surprised that 18 y.o. sugar babies make more than 35 y.o. ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 07:23 PM
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It made a number of RPs quite mad in the threads about a week ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 07:15 PM
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I love going to the hair dresser simply for the free scalp massage that comes with it. The little joys!!! I like it when the dental lady leans over me and her bewbs touch my face. I just want to nestle there. Yerp the thalamus needs activation via touch for healthy non-stunted development. Sounds pretty science-y, Grid. Did a man tell you this? ;P
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 07:14 PM
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Usually I stand for 45 minutes and sit for 15 or something like that (we have sitting desks and couches too.) This sounds like a much better plan than what I was envisioning. Standing all day just makes me think of shopping. When you shop for a long time, even though you never really exert yourself, your lower legs and feet ache. First world problems. "I shopped for so long my feet huuurrrrt ahhhh!!" Maybe Pilates or something would help. Literally everyone I know who knows about this says it wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 07:13 PM
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My parents are pushing me to get one. Is it not tiring to be on your feet for hours? The thing about slumping over the desk is it doesn't involve much muscle usage. Ha. I've also signed up with a Pilates instructor because a male friend who knows about these things is all 'core strength, core strength, core strength'. Weird thing is I feel like I have decent core-strength. I can still slowly pull up into a handstand etc. Maybe that doesn't involve core-strength? I know nothing about any of this …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 06:28 PM
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My lady-masseuse has hands like a fucking dockworker. Heh. I apparently have strong hands, too - my sister actually preferred my 'hard' massages after her back surgery to those at the PT centre. My problems are just the same as yours, btw. Neck/head pain from being bent over a desk all fucking day. Blargh, so unnatural.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 06:16 PM
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Apparently sex in the specific context of sugar-babying, too. AFAIK that whole thing is about the age difference. As soon as I hear 'sugar baby' I think of a woman 18-24 and no older. And I think of men who are quite a bit older than 18-24.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 06:12 PM
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Soo friendzone is not "anything like my scenario above"? Who are you talking to? I didn't say that. Seriously, if you want to discuss this make a PPD post and discuss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 06:06 PM
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I just like being touched by people, including non-sexually. I actually enjoy going to the dentist and getting my hair cut for this reason. Same with massage, which I do sometimes do. I actually prefer the older woman at the place I go because she's rougher (note: this isn't sexual, I just prefer the deeper massage because it feels like it does more and I walk out feeling like I'm made of jello). No male masseuses for me and women don't turn me on so getting aroused isn't an issue. I just like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 06:03 PM
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Are we discussing hypotheticals here, then? Because the OP didn't mention anything like your scenario, above. A woman who thinks a dude is a "disgusting creep" probably doesn't have a ton of empathy for him. No one is saying otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 05:56 PM
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This whole topic makes some RPers mad but not fucking men right away is a good way to ID red flags. It's simply about getting to know someone for more than a few hours. Spend a month+ hanging out with someone of any gender, for any reason, and you're going to have a much better idea of who they are. Having sex right away and crossing your fingers that the person isn't a shithead isn't a great strategy (note: does not apply to either gender when one is looking for sex and nothing else).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 05:15 PM
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OP still didn't say anything about pity-fucking. If you want to talk about pity fucking then make your own post. I will say, though, that I believe there are other ways to empathize with men than pity-fucking them. Empathy isn't pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 05:01 PM
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I pretty much agree with you, OP. Red Pill is extremely similar to certain factions of feminism. "That other group is bad. They're selfish. Stupid. Not fully human. Can't be trusted. Will always be looking to take advantage of you. etc. etc." It's such a waste of time. The subject matter at PPD is interesting but the discussions here are bottom of the barrel 95% of the time. I'm not even sure why a lot of people here even post. It's a very frequent thing to see posts by women here instantly and …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 04:57 PM
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Are you saying we should expect women to have pity sex with unattractive guys? Pretty sure this isn't in any way what OP is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 04:43 PM
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Parmesan foam???!?!1!? You know where cheese comes from, don't you? Lady bovines. CONFIRMED
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 08:19 PM
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What are your thoughts on foams? Culinary foams, I mean. Could you deal with a peach foam? Myself, I think it looks like spit on the plate. Very off-putting. Also I'm not a big baby how dare you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 08:10 PM
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Plato's view would have been considered sexist in the modern world. If you want to call me a misogynist, a racist, a sexist, an Islamophobe or a whatever social sin you think matters to me, you're very welcome to do so. This is not to say I am those things, I simply don't care about your gay-ass Western pseudo-religion any more than I care about the Pope's mentally ill delusions that humanity has original sin. I'm quoting this so you don't delete it. And as for my gay-ass pseudo-religion, well, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 07:59 PM
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Why, oh, why did I fall down this rabbit hole? Are you new here? I don't recognize your un. If you are, I advise immediate flight. Hanging around PPD for any length of time is scientifically proven to knock 3-50 points off your IQ. I caught myself eating erasers the other day. All PPD's doing. Run, girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 07:56 PM
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And is that what you hate? Mashed peach(es)? You're being incredibly cagey about this, you know. It's making me suspicious. You're hiding something. AND I KNOW WHAT IT IS
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 07:51 PM
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I probably couldn't love a man with a woman's personality. Although now we have to define 'woman's personality' and I feel like that might lead us down a very long, very stupid and very, very futile path. But sure, let's just go, for the sake of argument, with "citrusdrink couldn't love a man with a woman's personality' - now what? What is the point that you are making?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 07:24 PM
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Frame shakily and ultimately uselessly held, sir. And can you at least answer the question about peach? Like, did you leave off the -es or do you hate an innocent colour? Shitlord alert. I like nice candy. My cat's breath smells like cat food.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 07:19 PM
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What part of the quote from me did you not understand? What part of that quote indicated that I would/could love a man with a feminine personality? (I am a laydee, fyi) Why would me thinking that "loving someone for who they are" = "loving them solely for personality/character traits" means I will love a man with a woman's personality? TL;DR - What the flying sweet blue fuck are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 07:16 PM
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Come on, are you saying you didn't get tingles at "wittle feewings"? Is that it? I hear if a man utters those words and is not immediately hit by a bolt of lightning from an angry God, said man is ~confirmed alpha~. Fite me for him, whore! (sorry, see my flair, I can't even with PPD today)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 07:10 PM
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Are you a real person? Or is this just a 'blue pill goes full edgelord' persona? How can people talk like this? Is this real life? What's happening? Are there any other major western thinkers I should entirely discount based on cuck-ness? And why do you hate peach? The colour or the flavour?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 06:36 PM
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I will never pay serious attention to anything said by Plato ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 06:29 PM
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Looks are a part of who you are. Sez you (and see my reply to your OP). Your career is also 'part of who you are' if we're going beyond the colloquial definition of 'who you are' as concerned only with personality/character and specifically not with other aspects of a person. The clothes you wear could be seen as part of who you are. Your friend group. Your family. All sorts of things can be thought of as part of it. All you've done here is arbitrarily chosen a definition of 'who you are' that l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 06:27 PM
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I've always taken the phrase "loving someone for who they are" as synonymous with "loving someone for what's inside" - i.e. loving someone for their character/personality and NOT for: what they look like, their income, their social and/or career status, the car they drive, the number of other people who want to fuck them, their fertility etc. etc. etc. OP, you've redefined the phrase "loving someone for who they are" to include looks as part of that. Which is convenient for your argument. Althou…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 06:23 PM
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The next weekend when he bought a round he handed me a bag of cashews too. It wasn't just that he listened or remembered, boys had done sweeter things for me, but also how proud he was of himself? I think he liked who he was with me. I feel this. And am now mushy over an internet stranger's anecdote.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 05:23 AM
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Watch out, we got some PPD romantics over here. Or not, actually. OP, one of my most downvoted comments on this account was me claiming, in these specific two words, that "love exists." So expect a lot of "it's a chemical reaction in the brain in service of the furtherance of the species" type answers. Not that I disagree with those answers, but I don't think that's what love is. Or all love is. I think nature has set us up to be very easily fooled by those 'chemical reactions in the brain' - to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 05:20 AM
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'Exhausting' - that's a polite way to put it. But yes, it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 09:25 PM
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Red Pill needs to start teaching conversational skills, don't they? This guy went from out-of-the-blue comments on multiple orgasms to penis envy and 'all your male friends are icky feminists' in no time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 08:56 PM
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I actually want OP to answer this - it was my first thought, too. /u/informalcriticism what it the answer? Explain it to the ladies, and talk slowly because we have lady brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 08:49 PM
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I guess it depends on how important 'getting married' is to a person. If marriage is a deeply felt life goal, then the temptation to marry someone who simply fulfills the "well, I couldn't do any better' criteria is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 03:31 AM
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This is my auto-response to all of these 'what do you think of girls who X' questions: Do I X? If yes, then girls who X are cool. If no, then girls who X are dumb whores. Obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 02:49 AM
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Yeah. I mean, I don't think I'd want to hear this from a man regardless of how I looked. If I was Kate Upton's better looking twin I wouldn't want to hear this. It comes across as dehumanizing to me. As if the only thing I'm worth is how hot he finds me. Blargh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 02:37 AM
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So we all are going to base what we believe at least partially off of what we know and experience personally. As humans, we can only perceive through our own lens. I can't know how the person next to me views things. You're right, the only mind we have direct access to is our own. We do have good-faith communication, though, and I personally don't have an issue with someone who says 'I have experienced life differently' or 'I have interpreted event X in a different way.' It doesn't mean I instan…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 02:11 AM
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that women want, more than anything else, to feel desired. I am a woman and being desired by the man I love is extremely important. Can't speak for other women but yeah, for me this is true. The idea of someone saying (or feeling) that he's only with me because he couldn't get anyone hotter is still very off-putting. It says 'what you are to me is a physically attractive person, who could have, if I was more attractive, been any other (more) physically attractive person than you.' Nothing in tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 02:10 AM
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Why? Isn't this exactly what RP men say they themselves want (to be loved for who they are)?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 02:06 AM
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As for STRs, my first one was my fault it ended. I was an immature, convinced-I-was-right little shithead in that one. Had I not been, it may have turned into a LTR. Nothing about that says "I was too nice." I was very clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 11:35 PM
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I literally just told you about a time I would blame myself for the failing of a relationship...???
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 08:39 PM
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Could it be that men are better overt communication and women are better at non-verbal communication? It could be, but I don't think it is. I think being shit at overt communication in highly emotionally charged situations is something a high percentage of human beings, male and female, are. Communicating successfully simply means your message is received intact by the recipient. If you use dread game to "tell" your SO that she needs to step it up. I was specifically talking about overt comms, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 08:38 PM
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Are you asking me if I've ever behaved badly in a relationship of my own volition (i.e. not forced into it by an evil man)? YES, dude. Of course I have. If you asked me to go through my LTRs and assign blame, in one I would assign it (mostly, I wasn't perfect) to the dude in the other I would assign it to circumstances (no one's 'fault' - we didn't break up because we stopped being into each other). As for STRs, my first one was my fault it ended. I was an immature, convinced-I-was-right little …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 08:32 PM
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I'll have to read through it again, there's a lot more responses now. But dude, come on. You put this: truism that oft times, a woman has trouble seeing things from a balanced perspective. In your OP. You announced your own bias right off the bat. I don't think you have the right to start complaining that other people are biased, too. What I think is that it is very, very, very easy to believe things like "I am good at introspection and so are people like me. that other group of people, the grou…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 08:26 PM
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Does BP believe in nonverbal communication? I assume so. Nonverbal communication is a thing, I don't see how anyone could get through each day without it. How often do you utilize it? A lot. Can overt communication take the place of non-verbal communication? Yes, when appropriate (i.e. when there has been a misunderstanding or there's a complex issue that needs sorting out etc.). Can it ever be counter-productive to talk about things rather than expressing yourself through actions (actions speak…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 08:19 PM
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I think it might be useful to draw a line of sorts between 'relationships where one person is a clear asshole' and 'relationships where both people have normal, human failings and faults.' Even in the former situation it's not like the non-asshole never does anything wrong, nor is this gendered. Women are just as likely to be the 'asshole' as men. There are human beings out there who are entirely unsuited to be in intimate relationships with other humans. Anyone who gets into a relationship with…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 07:31 PM
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Here's one reason: many women are clearly turned off when they do. How do we know this? Did any of the cited studies actually go into the WHY of it? Or are you just assuming that the reason is because 'women are turned off by SAHDs'? Because I fully admit that women who are invested in the idea of their man as breadwinner and who need a man to fulfill this role exist. But, men who are invested in their role as breadwinner and who tie their self-worth to this role also exist. How do we know this …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 06:06 PM
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Is the aristocracy dying? Their land is becoming more of a burden (for the ones that keep it/don't sell it off) but it seems like they're breeding like rabbits. The lower and upper classes are the only ones that seem to be having 4+ kids on the reg.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:59 PM
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I get what you are saying but: a. just because its never said, doesn't mean it hasn't been considered. b. I simply assume everyone would consider better options if/when presented with them. Oh sure, just because it's never been said. Ofc. But it would be a problem if he thought it, too. I would feel insulted by that statement. It comes off, to me, as devaluing, depersonalizing. "I am with you because you're hot." I understand that this is exactly what you want (ideally combined with 'I'm also wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:56 PM
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emotional outbursts is that society teaches and/or encourages women to display their emotions more openly and attempt to "take others on the ride". Whereas men are more prone to anger (testosterone, maybe?) and that is always condemned. I've noticed that opinions like this one have become more common/acceptable on PPD. Often when people are being reasonable and seeking common ground. "Women are more emotional than men." "No they're not!" "Well, society encourages women to be this way." "OK, sure…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:44 PM
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I'd prefer my wife feels she should never leave because she has no chance of landing a hotter guy long-term than because she knows I "love" her. Pre-clarification: I am not arguing with you or telling you how you feel is wrong. Just pointing out an extreme and therefore interesting difference in our thoughts on this. If I ever heard "because I couldn't get anyone hotter than you" from a man (and in a serious/not playful way) it would a)be very upsetting and b)is probably enough to make me questi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 04:22 PM
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all the actual wealth I think we're talking past each other. Bank balance doesn't have much to do with class in the UK. Sure, landed aristocrats are more likely then the average Joe to have $ but an aristocrat with $0 is still an aristocrat. Just like David Beckham is still working class and all those Russians throwing their cash around London will never be part of the upper class. Peregrine Henry Woostey-Cholmondely-Fitzwitzick-Bottomstall with no money will always be a higher social class than…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 06:05 AM
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And he has to pay the piper. Are you even listening to yourself? Your own father puts up with years of abuse for your sake and your response is this? That is ice fucking cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:59 AM
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Social skills don't really translate over the Internet For your sake, I hope you're right. Because if you act like this in real life, no one is going to like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:27 AM
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Can I ask what region of the UK you're from? Your perspective on this sounds very American (not an insult!). Nah the new money is taking over the upper classes even in the UK. Wat? You can't have "new money" and "upper class" together in the UK. The new money isn't taking over the upper classes/aristocracy, they're taking over the Times' Rich List, which is an entirely separate thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 08:48 PM
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Sorry about the lateness of this response but you made an effort and I invited you to so now I'm responding...:) It will end in nothing but ugly mudslinging and emotional wreckage. I don't know if men reach this point - I'm sure some of them do. I don't seem to, and I don't know any men who do After this point you mention not having been in a relationship with a man and a form of bias. And I think you've hit the nail square on the head there. If you asked me to answer the 'who is more emotionall…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 07:59 PM
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Ordered him to buy me cake and he didn't. Obvs, I called the police.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 07:27 PM
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I used to think racism was basically over/didn't happen outside trailer parks. It did eventually dawn on me that, as a white person, it was entirely possible that it was happening and I just didn't notice it because it was never aimed at me. People can have such wildly different experiences of the same environment. These days, unless someone's story is extremely unbelievable (I was literally raped 10x on the walk over! in broad daylight!), I pretty much just believe people when they describe the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 08:08 PM
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In my experience, this stuff happens a LOT more in cities. I think it's the anonymity. He's never going to see this girl again, he can be pretty confident there's no social circle overlap, that his dad doesn't play golf with hers etc., it's a 'safe' situation for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 08:03 PM
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This guy, man. I wonder if he really thinks this? That men get arrested for making comments about "the view" when a woman with big tits is within earshot. Fucking hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 07:54 PM
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The incel posts are fucking tedious, I'll say that. I often get a weird feeling like I'm being asked to help someone jerk off over their own repulsiveness. What the mods do is up to you guys but I won't cry if they get shut down for awhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 07:19 PM
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OK, see, this is where we already have a problem. That response, from me, was more of an inquiry - I was feeling you out, trying to figure out if you actually wanted to discuss something in a reasonable way or if you just wanted (as some - SOME - do on here) to fling shit at each other. I'm not copping out - if you want to have this discussion then we can have it but, as previously stated, I am very wary about good faith on PPD and no longer assume it. That's not your fault, I'm just explaining …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 09:04 PM
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That study in no way deals with brain size as it relates to intelligence in humans, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 06:10 PM
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Yes, here we are. I believe you are a misogynist. The same way someone who says "I don't believe black people, due to their blackness, are as smart as white people, but I don't hate them for it" is a racist. If your definition of 'misogynist' necessarily includes a burning, violent hatred of all women then you are not, according to your definition, a misogynist. The definition you are using is not the same as the one I am using, clearly. Nor am I interested in a semantic back and forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 05:58 PM
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Sorry, Pem, I am no longer discussing things with you. It never goes anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 05:47 PM
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They're entitled to deny misogyny You're right, they are. And if they deny their misogyny and then go on to explain that it's just true that women are not as intelligent as men (for example), I am also entitled to call them misogynists. Not all RPs are misogynist. Let's get that out of the way. Some of them are, if you're asking me, and I'm not going to hold back on saying as much. without evidence If I'm calling someone a misogynist, it's obviously because I believe there's evidence. We can arg…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 05:45 PM
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Your wife is an individual. If she wants you to lead the family and you want to lead the family, that is nowhere near enough to label you a 'misogynist'. In fact it's not even somewhat enough. Nothing about that says misogyny. Now, if you take it further and make a statement like "because of my own relationship dynamics i believe that women are incapable, due to being women, of leadership in all contexts" - that might be getting a little closer to our bad word. Also, dude, that post is huge. We …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 05:42 PM
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I actually thought about adding the "if it's true" (and if it is true I'm going to need more than 'because in my experience it's true/because I think it's true' - there's too much room for unacknowledged personal bias etc. there and yes, I mean in all of us, not just RPers) part - mostly because I think I'm in a comment chain where the first person made that specific point and I sort of assumed it was already on the table (also: lazy). That part matters, a lot. Saying women are generally physica…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 05:17 PM
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Are you serious? Because if you are, you've been spending too much time at PPD/other unsavoury internet locales. Dude. Do you really think my opinion is 'no serious person can claim that broad positive traits X, Y and Z are male, broad negative traits A, B and C are female and oh yeah, men are shallow, violent and immature and women aren't okbye?' Of course I don't think that. No non-retard thinks that. And if you catch attention-seeking women (or men) saying it on Twitter I can almost guarantee…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 04:26 AM
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Do you know what would be so awesome, redschool? What would be so awesome is if some people here at PPD stopped with the disingenuous red-pill-pearl clutching whenever they get called out on their misogyny. This 'omg but I'm not mad at women for being faithless, immature, stupid opportunists! it's just how they are and I accept it!" is such a pile of steaming, cowardly bullshit. All non-idiot human beings understand that 'immature, opportunistic, illogical, dishonourable, faithless etc. etc. etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 03:58 AM
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what manly man really cares if the bathroom corners are perfectly lysoled? My ex (MMA champion, Navy SEAL, stone cold murderer of all who looked at him funny and general raging sociopath) used to beat the shit out of me for not sufficiently lysol-ing the bathroom corners. Your theory? Fucked. BUT...I am a cooker. So I take it all back! This meaningless bullshit reflects well on me and is therefore 100% true STEM-science-logicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 03:35 AM
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Because when men do something bad, it's because a woman forced them to and when women...wait, wait, no. It's because when women do something bad it's because men forced them to, and when men do something bad, it's because men are bad. Your question sucks, OP, and it deserves to have the piss taken out of it. Go outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 07:49 PM
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I read the article (and the follow-up) and can see why it sparked so much discussion. It definitely hits a number of very sensitive nerves for a lot of people. My reaction to the author isn't as hostile (wrong word, sorry) as yours, OP. I don't think he's condemning his wife as 'irrational' - he's basically honestly describing his thought processes in the larger context of how those thought processes contributed to fucking up his marriage. My thoughts? The main crux of all these issues, imo, is …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 07:36 PM
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This list is so red pill. Not the points on the list, which I agree with most in this thread on re: their not being non-PC at all, but the existence of the list itself. Because these points? Are just how a non-batshit woman acts when she is in love. All of these instincts and behaviours come naturally to most women (and to men, for their own list), imo. If a man has never experienced this then a)he has never truly been loved or b)he is choosing to get into relationships with nutjobs. If a woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 07:04 PM
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Specialization is for ants Oooh, this reminds me of a quote I've forgotten. Something about setting bones and comforting the dying, something something...it was good!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 06:41 PM
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Why is he withholding sex (I'm asking you, OP, because this is an unusual situation)? Depending on the answer to number 1 I'd probably recommend waiting him out. Very, very few men are going to win at the 'withholding sex' game, esp. if their opponent is attractive. This is assuming he's holding out for honourable reasons and not, for example, because he needs all women he sleeps with to be 100% under his psychological control - in that case dude needs to disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 04:36 PM
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Two gay dudes is fine, that works, I don't have to insert myself into that scenario. But jerking off...it's like I know he's thinking of dudes (ironically, given what I've read about the men do do gay male porn mostly being straight, he probably isn't???) and then can't do anything with it. Plus there's this emphasis on twinks in gay man porn that is no fun for me. I once stumbled across a Tumblr (I think) that was this weird kind of straight-men-insulting-gay-men - and it was FOR gay men. Those…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 09:21 PM
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This sounds like a meditation/masturbation hybrid. I'd have to be verrrry worked up to masturbate to the thought of nothing. Justin Bieber kissing a manikin head it is!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 09:17 PM
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Yeah, that was kind of hot. I will actually watch porn of guys jacking off, but it's hard to find good stuff cuz most of it is overtly marketed to gay men and that hurts my ability to truly immerse myself ha ha. Like somehow my brain gets hung up on 'but irl this guy would think you were gross' and then I can't get off to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 09:15 PM
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You're the director. I knooooow. That drastically upped the creep factor. The marriage was as bad if not worse than the kid, too. She willingly married a fucking 18 y.o. In her 40s. Girl, you knew goddamned well he wasn't in a position to understand what that meant. Who knows, maybe it'll work out, maybe he was some kind of freakishly mature and self-knowing teen but she gets a hard side-eye from me. And Eliot Rodger wasn't potato-y enough for me to ever personally find him attractive. But I did…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 09:12 PM
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Yes, agreed. And the sensation has to be true-to-life. VR dick is totally uninteresting to me and until it gets more physical-sensation-y and realistic I'll just save my money and stick with fingers. Although I would watch certain dudes jerking off to VR porn, now that I think of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 09:06 PM
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ATJ is soooo your type. Sadly, although older than him, you're still too young for him. ;) And I've talked about this on PPD before - their relationship - and yes, creepy. Creepy because of the baby and the marriage - I'm OK with older ppl banging 18 yos if said 18 yos are into it. I'm curious as to how that relationship turns out long-term. I think he was seventeen when they met and she was in her 40s. And 18 when that baby was conceived? I dunno, that does seem waaay too young to be making a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 09:02 PM
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Also, if virtual reality got to the point of where it is in this video, how many of you think most men would simply opt out of the dating market? Shit I would. I think some men already have - is this kind of vr even that far away? I thought maybe it already existed? Me, I can't opt-out until they make an AI indistinguishable from a 3D human being. The image is def. not enough to give up real life D. But tangible, real world D? Maybe. Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 08:57 PM
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I sometimes think of other people, too. I always know who the man is but the woman (if it's not me) is just some random. And I've always kind of been attracted to the idea of watching a bf with another woman, or him being with another woman and telling me about it. But the last serious ex was all 'no'.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 08:54 PM
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You don't think of anything? No imagined images? Sounds? Situations? Football players? Nada? HOW??? And I feel like the boy in this vid is your type if he was 5 yrs older and did not have a child's body. V. pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 08:53 PM
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This is hilarious. I sort of want to make 'get up, you dink' my flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 07:46 PM
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I don't care if women want to pay someone 250 quid to get 'massaged' but I'd be very surprised if this ever became a thing. For one thing, the masseuse is female - will straight women ever go, in numbers, for that? I dunno, seems super weird to me. I don't want a lady touching my lady parts. Also, jesus, that article. The 'reporter' even plays coy about telling whether or not she got off (although I assume the talk of 'tingles' means she did?). Fuckery.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 07:43 PM
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Dude. Dude. We're not having a conversation. Do you realize that? You're just delivering a series of lectures based on what appears to be a very lengthy list of assumptions (that I do not agree with) in response to what was quite a small claim from me re: not having sex with a man on the first night you meet him weeds out men who are only looking for women who put out on the first night. That's it. And that can't be argued with. Not buying drinks for a girl at the bar also weeds out girls who wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 05:18 AM
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What makes you say that? Are you the first coercive telepath to ever exist? What makes me say I have some control over whether or not a dude wants a relationship with me? Wat? I'm pretty sure no one needs to be a telepath to act in ways that are attractive and pleasing to the opposite sex. I mean, I could punch a dude in the nuts when he makes a witty comment or I could giggle and smile. I feel like the latter would be more likely to make him want a relationship. So why do you have such a poor o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 10:18 PM
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You can't logically explain your method? What 'method'? If a girl wants a relationship with a guy and specifically does NOT want sex without a relationship, then not having sex with guy without a relationship guarantees that she won't...have sex with him without a relationship. No? That seems pretty simple. That's how you avoid having casual sex with men you're interested in a relationship with. By not having sex with them when it's casual. men who don't actually want commitment but say they do …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 10:04 PM
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Well, I'm assuming the guy is on some level into the girl in this scenario. If he thinks you suck and doesn't want sex OR a relationship, then holding out on the sex isn't going to work re: getting a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 09:55 PM
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We're talking about feels, not logic. You can't logic someone into wanting to fuck you sooner than they want to fuck you. Not banging a dude right away remains an excellent and very efficient way to weed out men who want to bang right away and not commit. And I still don't think you understand female psychology very well at all. Edit: 1 downvote = 1 frame lost. You have already lost 2 frames! Will you make it three?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 06:24 AM
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Because men who are hypersensitive to perceived slights against their masculinity make me puke. That kind of fragility gets an instant nope. And, fwiw, those men are free to give an instant nope back to any woman who won't do X sexual thing that she did in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 06:20 AM
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You don't understand female psychology very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 06:14 AM
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You don't have any measure of control over whether he wants a relationship or not. Yes I do. You're only hurting yourself when you place arbitrary limits on intimacy It's not arbitrary, that's the point. The point is to weed out men looking for sex but not commitment. And not giving them sex works well to accomplish this. Your attempts to convince women to just give up sex at the drop of a hat, when they're looking for commitment, simply aren't going to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 06:10 AM
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I've never held out on sex with someone I wanted a relationship with, for what that's worth. But I still don't think it's bad advice, because men wanting pussy but not a relationship and being willing to cajole women into bed with empty promises of commitment is a thing. it also weeds out men who don't like feeling disrespected because you gave them less than other guys in your past. I'd want to weed those guys out even more than I would the ones who just wanted sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 06:06 AM
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Ugh why did you even post?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 11:04 PM
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Me: Purple, dating but not seriously. I think the most important thing here is to emphasize the need to figure out what the specific guy you're into is like. Playing hard to get often works, but it can also backfire badly with a guy who knows what you're up to and for whatever reason isn't into it. That's just an example. You have to figure him out before you figure out how to get your blood-dripping female claws into him. Things that are generally true: Be attractive. Someone below said 'have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 10:32 PM
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Ladies: Ignore the men in this thread advising against holding out on sex (if what you're seeking is a serious LTR or more). Not sleeping with a guy right away is a pretty good way to figure out who's serious about a relationship with you and who isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 10:21 PM
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You're hoping to date a spineless door mat? I don't think that's what she's saying. She's saying that not having sex early/right away weeds out the men like you (and some women are definitely looking to weed out such men) who will hit the road if sex doesn't happen right away. Both sides are 'testing' the other person and it's fine. Both parties will discover something about the other and whether or not they're compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 10:20 PM
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But we'll have sexbots, too! Mine will be physically, mentally, emotionally, sexually and in all other ways indistinguishable from 18 y.o. Wayne Rooney and will be programmed to only to fancy me. I definitely won't be on my best behaviour for the non-Rooney-sexbot men out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 10:44 PM
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It's really nice when your wife satisfies that need by making food for you. Nicer than eating microwaved ready meals, I'M SURE YOU'LL AGREE.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 10:20 PM
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OP, this is, imo, too large and thinky a topic for PPD to have a good covnersation about. We're too hostile to each other and to the idea of pondering here to do it. But that said, I'll offer some of my own thoughts (interesting vid, my uncle has read a lot of Joseph Campbell and talks about his ideas a lot. I am not so familiar with Campbell's work/thought). Ignorance of what it is to be a man and obfuscation of his responsibility is only of great harm to himself. (Self-assured Betas then are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 08:52 PM
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Yeah, I mean if it was specifically a request to help move etc. from someone who doesn't want to sleep with you but is willing to do so in order to get you to do X thing for them. I understand that friends, even if they're banging, do stuff for each other often. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 10:12 PM
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OP, because bad shit happens to group X regularly does not mean that bad shit happening to groups Y and Z is somehow a)not happening or b)automatically invalidated by said bad shit. There is, unfortunately, more than enough bad shit to go around. And the worst shit doesn't magically make the more low-level, chronic shit more acceptable. "Black men are being executed by American cops" doesn't mean men getting dead-bedroomed are somehow without complaint. It doesn't work like that. One is not rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 06:14 PM
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I've become wary about promoting cervix-hitting because of how many women report finding it very painful but for me, like you OP, it is amahzing. It's a different kind of orgasm, too, I often wonder if it's more of a male-style orgasm. Like, there's no other thing that can, when it's happening in just the right place, get me off that quickly. I have no control over it (feels kind of man-like in that way?). The cervix-hitting orgasms are the ones that really led me to understand the French term '…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 06:10 PM
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You can keep being pigheaded about this but what people are basically saying to you is: they wouldn't view this situation the way you are viewing it. This is actually kind of laughably 'Reddit' from you. It's a thing that happens that a woman really wants sex from a specific man. If a fwb texted me the above and then I texted back with "sure but I also need some groceries and some heavy boxes moved in my flat" (which I wouldn't text back with because what I want from him is the D and can buy my …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 05:46 PM
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Pretty much. I was always sexually into him, even at the end - maybe even more so then or in a more desperate way because I think I sometimes see sex the way men do, as a proof-of-love thing. He knew this and tried to turn off the sex tap in much the same way that I've heard it described women do. Of course it didn't work because he was a horny bastard, but he would actually do stuff like turning his head away if I tried to kiss him during the act. I ended that relationship, but I still feel lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 02:37 AM
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'windmill' Ha ha, i experienced this as a teenager and he didn't even keep his tongue in my mouth. I had to wipe the back of my wrist across my lips afterwards. So gross. I wonder if dudes who kiss like this get anything out of it - like, is it fun for them? Or fun for neither?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 02:33 AM
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Yeah, same experience here. Someone who kisses well can take me from thinking about work-related bullshit/being irritated to totally ready to go in a minute. Same with a bad kisser but in the opposite way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 02:32 AM
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Ikr. And some men seem so eager to either get past it or skip it altogether. I just...don't get it. Why not drag it out until you're both about to explode?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 02:31 AM
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Yep. Saw your other post ITT and I agree with the making-out thing, too. I could make-out/dry hump for literal hours. Men who see stuff like that as some unnecessary shit before the main event are...not cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 12:28 AM
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So many guys are just godawful kissers, ime. Jfc this is so true. I can't even describe how important the way a dude kisses is (and I'm not gonna say 'bad' vs 'good' because I think there are differing opinions and it's very much about the non-physical as well - although getting licked and slobbered on or having a tongue robotically inserted in and out of my mouth can take me from 99.9 to zero in one second flat). Sometimes I think kissing technique is a bigger deal (maybe same level) to me than…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 12:25 AM
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Oh dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 12:18 AM
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Is bad sex better than no sex? No. Is PIV even your preferred type of sex? Yes. dry humping I fucking love this. Ladies, how do you define good sex? There's no straight or single answer to this. It has a lot to do with how attracted I am to him. I.e. a dude I am very sexually attracted to has more leeway to not be Superman in bed but there's still a line that, once crossed, is gonna equal bad sex (i.e. if he really, really just sucks, zero foreplay, hops on, jackhammer for 20 seconds, done - tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 11:23 PM
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On the other hand the average woman is completely repulsed by the kind of analytical intelligence that makes society great and leads people to have success. Oh my God. Just out of curiosity, can you back this up in any way beyond "I feel like it's the truth"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 06:58 PM
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Just checked out that paper. This (from the paper's conclusion): Thus far the key finding is that emotional state and content may interact to modulate logical reasoning. This is however only the case if (mood) state and (task) content are related (Experiment 3; spider-related content among spider phobics). But, this does so far not generalize to other contexts, since it could for example not be found in a sample with exam anxiety (Experiment 4; exam anxiety in combination with exam content). The…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 11:02 PM
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I think it's wrong to discriminate and hate people based on these factors. Sure, of course. You don't even need to bring morality into this - it's just wrong on a practical level, too. Someone's height, lack of hair etc. - it doesn't say much, if anything, about them. Now, we're attracted to what we're attracted to but this doesn't really have anything to do with that. Come at it from a different perspective and the women posting comments like that deserve pity (and something tells me you didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 07:20 PM
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Fitness videos in your living rooms? You fucking weirdos. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 07:11 PM
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masculine bitch. This is kind of O/T (sorry) but there's been some discussion of 'toxic femininity' on PPD (i.e. vs the masculine version) and I think Surrendered Wife Lady was actually a good example of a very feminine kind of bad behaviour, rather than masculine behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 05:05 PM
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I have heard that story re: Diet Coke from so many people. They used to like full sugar Coke, then for whatever reason they spent a short period of time drinking only Diet, then they found that they only liked Diet Coke. It's weird that it's hard to find in China, I wonder what the reason is? Sounds like you come from a very culturally diverse family. I know so many trilingual people in Montreal (French from schooling, English because it's unavoidable and their mother tongue). Not sure I've ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 06:41 AM
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Point 1: define alpha male. My answer is based on the assumption that we're talking about my specific version of an alpha male. And that answer is: no. That's exciting and attractive and fun being around an alpha male. It's intimidating, but in a good way. Not the kind of intimidating that makes me want to run away at all. Quite the opposite. Alpha females? That's a lot trickier. Women know female game, and most of them are straight, so it's not really possible to use it on them. Sometimes I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 06:33 AM
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“tell him you are feeling especially erotic today” Oh god. This is as bad as the people who think you need explicit verbal consent before every sexual escalation. I can feel the tumbleweeds blowing in my panties. Is a high “gender contrast” needed for good sex? For everyone? How would I know? For me? Yes. Men being masculine is a turn-on. Me being feminine to that masculine is also a turn-on. Do you find sex to be better if the woman doesn’t explicitly initiate? Yes. I have a strong aversion to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 06:21 AM
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Some of my closest friends are pepsis! (I had to put the...Mandarin???...through a translator but that's me, too, although I prefer full sugar Coke cuz I'm a pig)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 10:53 PM
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Demi Moore has the sexiest female voice ever. I enjoy having a cold that affects my throat because it makes me sound like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 10:18 PM
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If "feminine" meant "being female". It kind of does, to me anyway. I have breasts, I menstruate, I prefer to be pursued rather than to pursue. These things are feminine, to me. I think most female humans are inherently feminine, although of course some will be read as more (or less) feminine than others, depending on who the observer is. Would anyone say that the action is unfeminine when coming from the unattractive woman but feminine when coming fro the attractive woman? I'm saying it would be…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 10:17 PM
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Is it hard to be feminine all the time? Uh, no? I'm female. I am therefore technically feminine all the time. If you're talking about, like, waxing and stuff, that's annoying and somewhat expensive but, you know, I was born white and middle-class in a first world country so it could be worse. Do you have to prove your femininity to others? I don't think so. I'll be gigglier and more flirtatious around dudes I'm attracted to but that happens completely involuntarily and I enjoy it so it's not rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 09:37 PM
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Ugh look at that facial expression. He's a girl. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 05:30 PM
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Etes-vous un vrai pepsi?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 03:24 AM
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Men know they are sexual exiles. They wander the earth seeking satisfaction, craving and despising, never content. There is nothing in that anguished motion for women to envy. Camille Paglia
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 12:04 AM
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I subscribe to no documented ethical theory. I judge things as they come, without letting the opinions of others, laid down in some broad, flawed theory, effect it. As I think anyone should. Thinking too much about it from the perspective of a framework seems wasteful to me. This is very close to what my answer would be, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 05:49 PM
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What is your pill? Purple. F. Do you have casual sex on a semi-frequent basis? No Have you ever had a one night stand? Yes, both times started out as ONS and turned into a)summer-long relationship and b)year+ long FWB Have you ever been to a night club? Yes. Have you ever been drunk before? Yes. Have you ever smoked weed or a different illegal drug? Yes. 18-25 this happened a lot more than it does now. Now it's only socially and infrequent, mostly because I can't handle the kind of weed people s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 05:46 PM
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Girls have gross cooties and I wish I was a boy and not covered in girl-cooties all day every day. Ew.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 02:07 AM
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Sigh. More typical BP nonsense. Oh fucking please. What are you, surprised that people advocate moral behaviour? The only person who can answer the question in the OP is the individual himself. I.e. you. Do you care about being a moral person? Then be one. Do you not care? Then what am I supposed to say to make you care? I can't say anything. The decision re: whether to throw morality out the window in the pursuit of getting laid is for the individual. Why do you guys keep trying to offload this…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 02:03 AM
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Ah. All I could think of was 'Anti-Social Drinking.' But that didn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 07:16 PM
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So you mean it's a female power fantasy I think it can be. Sex is all about power, imo. And there are many different kinds of it to have or not-have. a guy can't control himself This is not part of it for me (not until the very end). The man being in control of himself vs me not being in control of myself is one of the biggest parts of it, for me. And I don't know if I qualify as a 'rape' fantasist, technically.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 06:25 PM
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ASDing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 06:19 PM
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Not just white people. Nerdy white people. The whitest white people there are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 10:13 PM
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Here's hoping the poor bastards never find this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 10:12 PM
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Points awarded based on 5 out of 10 being average. EDIT: Straight female with an aversion to nerdy types (superficial/looks-based aversion only) Man 1: 4.5 (explicitly nerdy) Man 2: 4.5 (gets half a point for making what appears to be a slight effort with grooming, but still nerdy) Man 3: 4.5 (if this guy got a good haircut and started going to the gym, I think he could improve - he just looks soft as it is) Man 4: 4.5 Man 5: 4.5 Man 6: 4.5 Comments on the men: Whoever you are, you look like you…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 10:09 PM
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when I slipped on my anal lubricant. Oh dear Lord. clutches pearls grape flavoured Dasani Oh God, no! clutches pearls harder
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 08:23 PM
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Look at the logical argument he's making. You're doing that thing again. You're assuming that because you see an argument as logical, that it is. I am disagreeing with you on that fundamental premise. I do not see the argument as making logical sense - I find it utterly convoluted. The quotes are not the heart of the argument. Aren't they? This quote in particular: The nobler and more perfect a thing is, the later and slower is it in reaching maturity. Man reaches the maturity of his reasoning a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 08:07 PM
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This is an absolutely classic example of RP solippybippy. "I want to fuck women all the time. Women can get fucked all the time. Therefore women have better/easier lives then men." Except for the part where the vast majority of women have no interest in fucking strangers day after day. It's such a simple thing but a lot of them truly don't see it - that the fact that they want something very badly, to the point that it seems to rule a lot of their lives, doesn't mean that women want that same th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 06:21 PM
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Because it is. If I could experience being a man for a few days I definitely would, just out of simple curiosity. We could settle the 'who has better orgasms' question, too. And a LOT of people would get cock-slapped.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 06:13 PM
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The logic in the article is convincing. Once again, my friend, I disagree with you. It's convoluted (i.e. it doesn't appear to have a single, overarching thesis - I had assumed from the OP that it was going to be a straightforward defense of 'women stop maturing at 18/men continue maturing throughout their lives') and, as mentioned in my post, a quote(s) from a philosopher is not enough to convince me to change my view. As the quote from C. Paglia, above, would not be enough to convince most RPs…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 06:10 PM
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As someone else mentioned, it is scientific fact that women hit puberty before men do. I always assumed that this was what was meant by "women mature faster than men" - I've always simply taken that as a reference to physical maturity. I started to read the "Oldest Teenager In The House" link, too, and see that, at least for the first part (I don't have time to read it all the way through tonight) the "studies and resources" appear to be 'quotes from famous people that align with the writer's be…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 06:42 AM
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My favourite kind of psychopath, even more psychopath-y than Ted Bundy or other cool and interesting psychopaths is the Internet Psychopath. So cruel and edgy and singular and perfectly free of all pussy/girly-feels. BE STILL MY THROBBING LADYPARTS. Edit: 1 downvote = 1 oooooh ya just cucked yourself. 1 upvote = ALL MAN.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 09:29 PM
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I know, lots of people see him that way. More people than see him the way I see him, I suspect. So I'm not really making an 'I'm right and you're wrong' argument here. But I do think Bieber has 'it.' I think he had it when he was 16 and mop-topped and muscle-free, too. He radiates that kind of swaggering 'young, dumb and full of cum' adolescent masculinity. I've probably watched a lot more Bieber interviews than you have, too, and I do think he needs to be seen outside the context of a music vid…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 08:03 PM
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Well now I can't call you anything because my uterus (i.e. brain) is spazzing the fuck out at the thought of...sparkling dicks. Sparkling dicks! AHHHHHHH!!! kaboom
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 07:56 PM
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I think some women would made happy by following that path and some unhappy. I think some men would be made happy by following that path and some unhappy. I also think "striving towards a dream" is waaaay too nebulous. What if the dreamer is female and the dream is to lie on the sofa all day eating bonbons? It still technically fits. Is it still a 'dream' if it doesn't involve crushing the weak and hearing the lamentations of their women? Is it? (note: last two questions facetious, no need to an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 07:54 PM
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Fuck off, redschool - I'm interested in nail polish, too. And sparkly things. Can you imagine what would happen if someone put sparkles on their dick? global female implosion
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 07:47 PM
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Again, I'm not complaining that this is a hit piece, or that hit pieces exist, or that it's not fair for people to write them or have those opinions, or that I expect neutral or positive press praising me for calling women stupid cunts. Cool, then we don't have an issue. just like all of the others, and is completely unexceptional. Agreed. negative article I still don't think I see it as concretely negative. It just seems lazy and unwilling to take a stance. Basically worthless. It'll be interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 07:42 PM
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Dan Bilzerian is a dumb whore, and unmasculine in both ways described by the OP. And my idea of the alpha of the alphas is a combo of the two types minus the lack of self control and petulance/fit-throwing, which I will never see as alpha. BUT. That said. Bieber is the absolutely perfect example of the 'primal-only' type of masculinity. He is very masculine in that way and very attractive (in the 'fuckable and nothing else' way, which is, I think, what many RPs are going for).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 07:38 PM
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Well, once again, I disagree with you. And before we get into "oh so you think this makes men and women unhappy" - no, I don't think that. My position on this is in no way black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 07:20 PM
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Hit piece? Really??! Does any part of you think you're going to get better than this from the mainstream media? Because you're almost certainly not. We're all sitting here, fairly desensitized in our obscure little corner of the internet. I don't even blink when I see people like you throwing around words like 'cunt' like candy at a parade anymore. It's boring af by now. The article is crap, mostly because it's completely superficial. Maybe it's useful to people who know nothing about the manosp…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 07:14 PM
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No. I see that's where people are differing here. Imo this title is saying: "This is about the manosphere, in which men are saying 'balls to all that' - i.e. marriage, provisioning etc." and NOT "fuck all those guys." It's badly worded and I see why it's causing confusion but given the tone of the article itself I'm fairly confident in saying he's paraphrasing the manosphereans themselves and not saying "fuck them" in his title.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 06:59 PM
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Nothing I said precludes the fact that yes, some people will step on others will get to the top. I mean, do you literally think every human being would do that? And if not, where are we differing? On percentages? So maybe you think 99% would and 1% wouldn't? Or is it 100% in your view?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 09:34 PM
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Whether you believe it or not is irrelevant. It simply is. I'm never sure whether to envy or pity people who seem so able and willing to make the leap from 'I believe X' to 'X is reality.' You think it's reality. That doesn't mean it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 08:34 PM
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I don't believe this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 05:42 PM
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What I'm saying is that that isn't what I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 05:42 PM
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This sounds like it might have been good advice at some point in the past - it's basically telling women to prioritize practical things (his ability to provide, his lack of likeliness to leave etc.) over sexual attraction. Women can provide for themselves now and divorce is a lot easier and less stigmatized than it was - I think that necessarily makes those old-fashioned male traits less valuable and the new-fashioned male traits (i.e. how sexy is he?) more valuable. There's a lot of disagreemen…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 05:40 PM
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This is a bit like all the 'what is alpha?' questions on this sub. To some extent, we're all going to have our own ideas about masculinity is. That said, I think most people would generally agree. It's either a quite good or quite bad place, here, to have this discussion, because I find both RP and BP (BP as in heavily feminist) ideas of masculinity skewed and/or cartoonish. So I guess I'll just say what I personally think it is. I think masculinity is both biological and cultural. There are som…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 05:30 PM
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But I don't assume the opposite. The clear answer to 'are people good or are people bad' has always seemed and continues to seem, to me, to be: SOME are good, SOME are bad, MOST are a mix of the two. I certainly don't assume that my friends/boyfriends are trying to manipulate me, not without a good reason to assume it. I don't assume strangers are trying to manipulate me, either, without reason. The whole 'I am this way so other people must be this way' is a basic cognitive error, imo. Well done…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/16 06:19 PM
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Aren't you basically assuming here that all people are kind of shitty? You even say it yourself that if you could manipulate people with your looks, you would. I just don't think everyone would. Some, yeah, but I have no reason to think that would be the default. Being hot isn't really a comment on how decent a person is. If a hot person uses their looks to manipulate others, the hotness is only the thing that enables them to do this - it's a shitty character that actually leads them to do it. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/16 05:15 PM
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I have a hard time maintaining state, in the sense that at baseline/in state I can be fairly charismatic, but when the tension rises, my personality flips and I become more introverted and thinner-skinned. I assume by 'state' in that first sentence you mean 'frame,' right? Anyway, I think what you've said here is the key. You know what the issue is. And before I say anything else I just want to make clear that I'm speaking for myself here - 1 woman - not all women. That said, there is definitely…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/16 05:12 PM
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I was infaturated with her for some reason. I was really attracted to her physically. If there's one piece of advice I would actually give to a young man it would be this. It happens to women, too, but mostly I see men doing this. They get mesmerized by their own attraction to a woman - often a woman who is totally incompatible - and then they just double down on her repeatedly. It's not just young men, either. I think there needs to be a superhero who flies around and finds these men, gets righ…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/16 05:00 PM
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I can't say for sure but I'd say my lack of success is probably mostly due to my extreme physical hideousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 10:29 PM
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something from a radically different perspective it often seems like someone pulled it out his ass If you take a step back and honestly consider, which you may or may not be capable of depending on your current view of existence, you may see some of what I'm saying, even inklings of truth here and there. Yeah but anything can be defended like this. People who believe the earth is flat can say all this. Now, that doesn't make the earth round, but it's in no way a defense of the belief that the ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 06:53 PM
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I know we're supposed to avoid getting personal/mean etc. on this sub but I honestly don't have a reaction outside of 'wow, what an utter idiot' when I read posts like that one (and I just read through the exchange with you in which he has nothing beyond a repeated assertion of what he, personally, believes). And he started out with one of the most casually confident 'you have made a single flippant comment online and have a vagina therefore I know basically everything there is to know about you…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 05:52 PM
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This is one of those comments that is so full of stuff that's been pulled out of someone's rear end I don't even know where to begin. Do you realize that there are a lot of people who wouldn't agree with what you've said? Does that matter to you or are you convinced you've got human female nature 100% right here?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 05:33 PM
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Aw shit. I'm doing it right now. Right now! Last chance!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 04:17 PM
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traded a sense of community for outrage porn. I've been thinking about this a LOT lately. And the more I think about it the more I think this gets to a deep and uncomfortable truth of modern western society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 02:36 AM
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Only mods can say that. Remove it or I'm telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 02:34 AM
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He fucking loves it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 02:31 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMNyPqC12O4
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 02:29 AM
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I don't think TRP works (not beyond the bog standard 'get fitter, groom yourself better, stop being a fucking weirdo' advice that you can find anywhere) and in many instances I think it's probably actively harmful to its followers. If someone asked me if they should become a TRPer I would tell them no. So there's that data point, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 02:19 AM
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Yeah but OP, do you believe any of that stuff? Do you believe that women having equal rights is going to lead to the downfall of society or that women are too dumb and emotional to do anything beyond breeding and childcare? If you don't believe it, there's no reason to care about what some fringe internet group thinks. If you do believe it then you need to ask yourself why and make decisions about your life based on those thoughts. Terrible morons exist. They exist everywhere, in every country a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 02:10 AM
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Teach men not to do this. Sure. I don't think teaching men not to do this is a bad idea. I think most of them already know it but I'm sure there are some who act ccreepily out of a genuine lack of knowledge. But, I also don't think the type of man who does this kind of thing repeatedly (a creep) is the type who's going to be open to being taught. It seems like the ones who most need to accept that that shit isn't OK are the ones least likely to do it, you know? 'Teach them not to X' isn't a comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 02:03 AM
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Toxic masculinity turns men into robots devoid of emotion and empathy, corrosive femininity turns women into doormats. This is well put. I think the term 'toxic masculinity' has become a trigger for certain RP/MRA/MGTOW etc. etc. types. They perceive it as an automatically unfair attack. But I think toxic masculinity exists. It doesn't mean I don't think the feminine equivalent doesn't exist - it definitely does. Maybe I'll start a thread (or, if anyone else feels like it, go ahead).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 02:01 AM
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I agree with this. he sullies his own rep. That's how a lot of this stuff is handled, actually. Girls can get reps for being 'easy' but dudes can also get reps for being creepy. That one is definitely a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 01:57 AM
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You're wrong OP. Love exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 09:24 PM
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You know that 'dis gon be good' gif of the dude setting up his chair with a big grin on his face? We need a 'dis gone be a shitshow' gif of someone curled up in a corner with their head in their hands for what this comment section promises to be. Also I agree with what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 06:39 PM
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It sounds like the pulling her into the tub after she repeatedly said no thing could be criminal, but IANAL. In a non-legal sense this guy sounds like an utter creep and the girl sounds like she needs to learn how to physically remove herself from an uncomfortable situation. Why the fuck you go into this creep's bathroom when you know good and goddamned well what he wants?! She was doing that thing that women sometimes do. Trying not to make a scene. Trusting that if she got down to her underwea…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 05:58 PM
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Agreed, it's utterly ridiculous, especially in a debate situation. isn't it just a bumper sticker extension of the cynical thought that nobody actually believes in their ideals? Some people aren't here to debate, I think. They're here to jerk off. So they just assume that everyone else is here for that same reason. Cynicism has become this weird 'IDGAF' stance and I don't see the point of it in a debate, tbh. If you don't give a fuck, why are you here? If you don't believe the person you're argu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 05:50 PM
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What is the definition of a 'safe space' anyway? A community that bars entry to those who would harass and direct hate-speech at the members of said community, specifically targeted at them? 'Safe space' seems to have become one of those trigger terms to both sides. Reds are just as prone to their creation as blues, as well. "But it's not a safe space it's just a place where off-topicness is banned!" I mean, cool. Call it whatever you want. It's still a closed community where certain types of sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 05:43 PM
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virtue signaling to the other black knights Heh. The accusation of 'virtue signaling' is just the latest 'I can't/don't want to argue with you so I'll just throw this out there and pretend I won' anyway. I mean, not ALL the time - it (virtue signalling) definitely exists, but it's also a perfect way to invalidate what someone is saying and therefore not have to take it seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 05:11 PM
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Let's return to my food analogy. A person who really, really fucking loves sweets is still going to be selective about the taste and quality, but he wouldn't mind devouring a chocolate icecream on the go or casually popping a truffle ( If his regiment enables him to do so ). A person who doesn't see something special about sweets, though, might only eat them to compliment a meal This is actually kind of a perfect example of what you're getting wrong. People who are really into a given food/thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 06:19 PM
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OP, this post is confusing. Can you go into more detail re: 'complicated'? I feel like 'complicated' when applied to a man is often a compliment. Is that wrong? I mean 'he's so complicated!' - that sounds like something a woman would say to her girlfriends in praise of a dude. I'm pretty sure I've even seen this trope in movies/on TV.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 07:46 PM
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OK, I'm going respond to you because you're being reasonable. I'm trying to be reasonable, too. We still clearly disagree on a number of things. As I said to the other poster: I am not a Red Piller. Just to be clear. Freeze is a reflex. Generally speaking, people don't know they are going to freeze until it happens. OK. I understand what you're saying. I don't entirely buy this 'freeze response' thing, though. Not because I think it doesn't happen but because I think it's probably something that…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 07:36 PM
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OK, before I reply I wanna say something. Have you taken me for a Red Piller? I've done that before on this sub with people. It's really fighty in here and sometimes I jump to conclusions about what people are saying etc. due to that. Just want to make sure you're not doing that with me. For the record, I pretty much think most of Red Pill is a steaming pile and I wouldn't hang out with any of them irl. Except GLO because his cheeks need pinching. Now. That said, I will respond. In that case, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 09:58 PM
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Response moved to Automod due to Evil Mod Tyranny: Has anyone answered this yet, OP? With a concrete definition of 'affirmative consent'? I saw the post from yesterday and the OP had not included a (legal) definition of it. Is there one? In California? Anywhere? Because if there isn't, I don't see how anybody, feminists included, can possibly think it's workable/doable. In order to perform an act, especially an act that, not-performed, may lead to criminal charges, there needs to be a clear defi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 09:39 PM
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guzzles drink in one go but still manages to do it in a ladylike manner 'Nother one pls? Fank you, Grid. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 09:38 PM
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OK I'm moving it!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 09:37 PM
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Jokes on you, Hyperrreal, I did it on purpose so I'd get bossed around. Will repost to automod. Does /u/GridRexx need to move her reply too? Why is this so complicated? I need a drink. Edit: Wait so do I have to move it or not re: Grid's point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 09:22 PM
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Am woman. She's right. It's not just her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 07:55 PM
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Yeah, as I said, we can't know. And 'we' includes feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 07:46 PM
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I'd say do not be alone with a man in a specifically sexual context if you don't want to have sex. And now we're probably going to disagree on what constitutes a 'specifically sexual' context but I'd definitely say that going home with him, late at night after meeting at a party (for example) is specifically sexual. Basically treat all men like potential rapists? Yeah. It's not the same thing as believing all men are capable of rape, btw. I believe very, very few men would rape someone. But a st…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 07:43 PM
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Just as much against them as what? I don't know if the false accusation rate is low. Or high.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 07:35 PM
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Out of there? Like, standing up all stone-faced, getting dressed and leaving? No. But here's the thing. I'd know, in that context, that what I was being asked for was consent, no matter how it was worded. It's the knowing it that's the turn off. I don't want to be asked for consent, it's not hot. And I am just talking for myself here - it's cool if other ppl think it's bizarre etc. I'm sure if we all laid out our turn-ons and -offs here there'd be a lot of stuff other people would find bizarre. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 07:34 PM
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Yes, definitely. "In order to prevent yourself being charged with X crime (which won't work anyway), commit Y crime. Also film yourself committing Y crime." w.t.f.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 05:59 PM
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I don't think sexual desire 'eliminates self-control' either, but that isn't what I claimed. My thoughts on the freeze response are: (from another post of mine): I personally do not believe that freeze response = rape. If you have given no indication that you've changed your mind about having sex (or that you didn't want sex in the first place despite going back to his house late at night and making out with him), the man is not a rapist. The responsibility is on the woman there. If you think th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 05:54 PM
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The answer to this question is unknowable. Even if we had video/audio/DNA as someone else stated, it still wouldn't be enough. I mean, you could post that video here in this sub and I bet there would still be serious disagreement on whether or not a rape occurred. Sex takes place in private and with no witnesses other than the participants. Rape involves feelings. You can't see or hear feelings. A woman who has been terrified or threatened into sex she doesn't want, even if the video shows no ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 05:34 PM
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Does desire override your ability to think and speak in a way that can be measured or detected through neurological activity? Honest/non-snarky question. Do you think it doesn't? I can't think of having been in another common/non traumatic situation more likely to result in inability to think or speak clearly. Downvoters: I dare you to actually discuss this with me. Not because I'm convinced I'll 'win' (it's just a discussion) but because why not actually talk about it??
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 05:20 PM
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I don't like being asked. Now, I don't have ONS, either, so it's not a big deal but this stuff, the 'mood' stuff, isn't rational. It's feels. Being asked "do you want me to keep going" or "do you want to have sex" - even if it's worded in a dirtier way - is a turn-off to me. That's not a feel I can change.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 05:14 PM
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I doubt these situations are common (official rape accusations based on a woman feeling butthurt/rejected) but I accept they happen. I mentioned this in my own comment but it's an interesting thing that casual sex is becoming as dangerous for men as it has always been for women. Men now have to be as careful (and, if one wants to be entirely safe, that they need to not engage in casual sex at all) as women when it comes to ONS etc. A woman never knows if the strange man is going to rape her. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 05:11 PM
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Has anyone answered this yet, OP? With a concrete definition of 'affirmative consent'? I saw the post from yesterday and the OP had not included a (legal) definition of it. Is there one? In California? Anywhere? Because if there isn't, I don't see how anybody, feminists included, can possibly think it's workable/doable. In order to perform an act, especially an act that, not-performed, may lead to criminal charges, there needs to be a clear definition of said act. Now, as for the rest of this. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 05:00 PM
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They sometimes aren't the most socially fluent, they sometimes aren't the most sexually fluent. FUCK YOU for putting those people down." And he says this right after he calls feminists "fat." Which is fine. This is a thing that a lot of people do. When someone disagrees with them, they react by insulting that person. This is something that you see in five year olds and 95 years olds. Male, female, left, right, cross-cultural etc. What is there to discuss here? What are you saying, OP? That becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 10:23 PM
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I also agree that male orgasms can be much more "meh." Women typically describe orgasms as much more world-changing. I wish I could experience this from a male perspective a few times, just to see if my feeling that male vs female orgasms are very different is true-ish or not. I'm not even really talking about the base level of physical pleasure one gets from them, either. A dude getting me off changes the way my brain feels about him. It changes it that very instant. It's psychological and emot…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:52 PM
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Sexual Personae by Camille Paglia. Everyone should read this book.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:42 PM
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My opinion on asexuals is - OK. As in ok, you're asexual. If someone tells me they feel X and I have no reason to believe otherwise (i.e. I haven't caught you jerking off in public multiple times, for example) then I just believe them. If you say you like boys I believe you. Say you don't like flying I believe you. Say you are neutral on ferrets as pets I believe you. etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:30 PM
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OK. Just for the record, I'm not presenting an argument here. I'm not arguing with you or saying you're wrong (not that you're saying I am, I just wanna be clear). Those things said, as a woman it's difficult for me to imagine becoming bored with sex where I'm having orgasms. It's never happened to me (and I have 2 LTRs under my belt). Maybe it happens to other women but my reaction was exactly the same as that other poster's. It's borderline unthinkable for me to put 'bored' and 'he's regularly…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:01 PM
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Your woman there was using a single case of an anomaly to try to prove a norm. No she wasn't. She was simply doing the following: Person X: All crows are black. Person Y: But look at this white crow. "All crows are black" cannot be true. Note the total lack of claims that all crows are white or that most crows are white or any further claims, at all, about the meaning of the white crow. Same for me - at no point did I try to, as you put it, "justify a false norm" - in fact in my post I went out …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 06:07 PM
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All people who drink slurpees are assholes. Also my working definition of 'asshole' is 'someone who drinks slurpees.'
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 05:55 PM
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Stop. Stop accusing people of failing at logic when you yourself don't appear to have a solid grasp on it (hint: logic =/= 'things indiemanincanada strongly believes to be true'). The poster Greeklady replied to said this: a woman's beauty is factual/objective to every man. Note "factual" and "objective" and, crucially, "every man." Do you know how many white crows I have to find to disprove "every crow is black?" One. One fat fetishist = not 'every man' finds Scarjo attractive. One fat fetishis…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 05:50 PM
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Agreed. This whole 'making her cum multiple times = duty sex' is incomprehensible to me as a woman. And as bad as this is going to sound, it makes me suspicious about the authenticity of the orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 05:31 PM
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