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Am I the only one that thinks it's a stupid ban? I understand that the feminist arguments against it are ridiculous, but I didn't find any compelling argument for the ban in the first place. "If girls wear X it prevents boys from studying." What? I grew up in an era where girls wore short shorts and short skirts which IMHO reveal more than leggings. I also don't remember failing my classes because of it. Who imagines this shit?
/r/MensRights03/04/14 05:24 AM
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I'll talk a little bit more about it then. When I started we did have a guy who would shake so hard he'd spill his drink, it was actually hilarious to us. Years later he'd go on boot camps around the world, get LRs, but then come home and still be standing in the corner of the bar frozen with absolute anxiety until we made pigeon noises and irritated him into doing it (at which point it either went great from his personality or terrible from delay due to the anxiety... the way it always is). The…
/r/seduction05/02/14 01:10 AM
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No shit. This is how it should have been from Day 1. "Our concern is always that domestic violence is a consideration when it needs to be," she said. I hope "she" is including abuse from females in her little mention of this.
/r/MensRights03/02/14 01:38 AM
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Those are yes/no one-word questions and the shittest kind you could possibly answer. But if you had run a competent set (you are nowhere near that) and you ran out of things to say... you say, "I have run out of things to say but I don't want to let you go... yet... because I'll think of something later" and then you get their number and then you go. You'd have seeded a number bridge much earlier in the interaction though.
/r/seduction01/02/14 06:52 PM
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Howard Roark.
/r/seduction01/02/14 06:50 PM
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Practice.
/r/seduction01/02/14 06:49 PM
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I'm being a "reality destroyer" by cold approaching. Sounds like fun to me. I might be uncomfortable if someone did that to me. If someone told you to go away you would. So when you imagine being uncomfortable, do you also imagine asking yourself to go away and then doing so? Doesn't that knowledge significantly decrease the threat level? If not then you're probably approaching wrong. Indirect, over the shoulder, with your body facing away? There is literally no way that can be threatening. It m…
/r/seduction01/02/14 06:48 PM
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I was expecting you to say you approach a lot but still struggle with AA, which is an extremely common complaint. But it seems you have AA so bad that you haven't even approached anyone yet. You might need to pay for professional help. Someone to go out with you and forcibly get you into sets. Something of yours (money) on the line to make sure you stick to your commitment to find the girl that is waiting for you somewhere out there. Guys with the worst AA in the world are literally still approa…
/r/seduction01/02/14 06:45 PM
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This is the most disturbing thing I've read today. Most non-game guys think that way. Fuck women, they're all sluts / gold diggers / manipulative, etc. Those guys are IMHO illogical non-thinking self-entitled morons, no offense. Basically they get themselves into terrible situations and never take any responsibility for it. Instead, the world is out to get them. Rather than admit they dated a bad egg and could possibly have made a mistake, they would literally rather paint 5 billion women as the…
/r/seduction01/02/14 06:39 PM
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The happiest people don't think about or analyze shit. I'm not going to call them dumb because they're not. But they're not usually deep, logical intellectuals like us. If you want out from suffering the way is to do an Eckhart Tolle and give up thinking about thinking about thinking (not a typo). That's all there is to it. Literally. IMHO anyway. Give it a try (but don't buy into all of his other shit).
/r/seduction01/02/14 06:34 PM
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Assuming you have floor space to practice regularly, buy an XBOX 360 with Kinect and Dance Central 1/2/3. If I had found this a decade ago it would have changed my life. This literally teaches you step by step how to dance in the comfort of your own home to a variety of songs from the 70s all the way up to the modern era, while watching you, and telling you if you're doing it right or wrong. It does not get any better than that, and all for a one-off payment of a few hundred bucks. Do it an hour…
/r/seduction01/02/14 06:31 PM
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I'm not sure why you'd even focus on this. If you want to meet someone make it happen yourself. Nobody else owes introducing you. Don't even try to extract that kind of value from someone either, it doesn't feel good.
/r/seduction01/02/14 06:29 PM
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I know that one day this effort will pay off and that I will find someone who accepts me for who I am Completely separate to who you are, your technique is fucked. I can only say that because of what you've described. A carpenter can be the best guy in the world but you're not going to fucking hire him if he can't cut a piece of wood properly. What you're going through is the same thing. So say that carpenter is in school. When he is practicing cutting wood, does he then think, "Well one day the…
/r/seduction01/02/14 06:28 PM
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This happens a lot, especially to students coming back from boot-camps (or even teachers!) They come home back to their usual haunts, without all that support and helpful inner dialog, and suddenly the magic disappears. Sorry to hear about your problems. It's something you'll need to struggle through. I also recommend going straight from the airport to the nightclub and then hitting up clubs 7 nights a week for as long as you want to keep riding that high. I'm not even joking. I've done this.
/r/seduction01/02/14 06:16 PM
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In a way, state has been around since the 70s with NLP. In another way state was only a buzzword that got thrown into seduction ~2005+ long after all the real techniques were worked out. When state came around, us old-timers basically laughed and said you do the set whether you're in state or not. I would literally go up to sets and say, "I'm not in state, sorry guys." They'd be like WTF? and start grabbing at me asking what that means. Set open. Have a drink, have a dozen, or don't have any at …
/r/seduction01/02/14 06:12 PM
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He's a salesman and a very good one. Many of his ideas are sound, though they are the most general tactics for a least-common-denominator market. I wouldn't base your entire game-plan on it but listening to it will probably do you more good than harm. "Fake"? If your friends can't tell the difference between a technique and the good/bad intent of a person who is applying them for self improvement, they also probably don't have a brain between them. If you have half a brain yourself find smarter …
/r/seduction01/02/14 06:07 PM
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Know the alleyways, carparks, and unlocked buildings with stairways nearby. I'm not even joking.
/r/seduction01/02/14 06:06 PM
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How should you open? "Hey". How to screen for dtf girls and set a sexual frame? "Short-term relationships" is ticked. How much conversation do I need before I should try set up the date? What sort of format works well? Talk for 5-10 minutes the first day. Talk 5-10 minutes the next day and set up your date. Best way to get the number and set up a solid date? I'm going out shopping, and I don't want to sit inside all day on the net. Come with me and help me pick out a shirt. What's your phone num…
/r/seduction01/02/14 06:04 PM
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in many of these cases the girl's friends were trying to set me up with them quite blatantly That's ridiculous and I can't imagine how that could happen repeatedly. If it's not repeatedly then you're simply not hitting up enough sets and are overly focusing on one situation. Nobody should be controlling that kind of frame except you. Nobody sets your target except you. And if they picked the same target as you and pushed you together it's a very effective AMOG technique to shut you down. This is…
/r/seduction01/02/14 05:58 PM
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This may be normal for you. Get comfortable with it. Look there is no problem with being depressed in some areas and then ridiculously happy with others. This pattern repeats in everyone but in different areas that probably aren't so noticeable because you don't get to hear how stupid their inner thoughts are. What will fuck you up is META-depression. Beating yourself up for being depressed. Justifying it, excusing it, analyzing it. Don't do it. I'm not into meditation or spirituality bullshit, …
/r/seduction01/02/14 05:48 PM
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You probably fucked up the initial interaction, NOBODY sets Day 2s for a few days in the future because it's WEAK, and then you texted instead of calling. This is so weak, absolutely weak. Step up or continue to fail. Your choice. If I was in your situation I would throw those numbers away rather than text them because that's what you're doing. I would throw them away. Texting is worthless. Some people can do it all they want and a few will have success. But you never get stories of, "Man I wish…
/r/seduction01/02/14 05:43 PM
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Texting on a first call is for faggots. There is zero investment for a girl when she gets a text, it is literally socially acceptable to ignore it as if it never happened. There is a huge investment in answering a phone and talking to someone. You make that investment, force them to make the same investment, and it will prove your initial interaction was solid (or they won't pick up if it wasn't). Texting is for LATER and it gets peppered in amongst your calls for long-term prospects. It's not a…
/r/seduction01/02/14 05:42 PM
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God you're naive. One thing that I want to ask is, are all these girls that you guys are picking up really that disposable? Ask every person in the world and half will give you each answer, yes and no. Every person goes after what they want. You decide what you want and go for it. Anything else doesn't affect you so don't even think about it. I know that it's a numbers game, I get it. No you don't. That first thousand or more are literally 5-10-15-30-60-120+ minute interactions of just talking t…
/r/seduction01/02/14 05:33 PM
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IMHO it's your mistake, you are doing the indirect method incorrectly. Here's what is happening. You go in for 15-20 minutes and are fun and the girls play along. Suddenly you (metaphorically) whip your dick out showing interest, the girls notice and shut you down, and it's game over. What you don't realize is the charisma, sexual tension, and touching that's required immediately off the bat in order for indirect to work; because it's not something easily translated into words for it to be done …
/r/seduction01/02/14 05:24 PM
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That's the stupidest shit I've ever heard. Why don't you go to a proper instructor? There are so many. RSD, VA, and Alex have all set up shop over there.
/r/seduction01/02/14 05:17 PM
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In most countries living together constitutes a de-facto relationship and is treated the same as marriage anyway. So technically along your line of thinking the best thing to do is not to live with your partner.
/r/MensRights27/12/13 04:07 AM
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The article is lacking in statistics. The author says that single mothers are the primary recipients of SNAP especially because they allegedly then go on to feed children and the elderly. I didn't see any figures to show that was or was not the case. Without facts I can't care.
/r/MensRights27/12/13 02:40 AM
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Sometimes I feel like they don't even blame men as a whole. They blame man. Whatever man happens to be in front of them at that exact second. Every man is literally Hitler. I don't have to have done anything at all or have any power at all somehow it is just my fault for existing.
/r/MensRights27/12/13 02:34 AM
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Feminists will say: More women TRY to kill themselves. Men get paid more so of course they'll die at work more. Men are homicide victims because they kill each other. Men are homeless because they are abusive and get kicked out of home. Source: None. (Edit: surprisingly, almost exactly the same list as another comment)
/r/MensRights27/12/13 02:33 AM
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I don't care what you think until you try forcing your choices on others. Like this. Fuck. You.
/r/MensRights25/12/13 11:48 AM
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Right. Kids should have zero rights or personal choices. We should also draft the little boys in the army because they have no rights. Boys should grow up realising they have no rights and no choices just like when they are adults.
/r/MensRights25/12/13 11:46 AM
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No, it's not an insult, it's just that there's kind of been two subs for a while now. /r/MensRights is the important stuff - my kids are being taken away, I was sexually assaulted, a Men's Rights speaker has been unfairly threatened with death, etc. /r/MensRants is hey look there's a bunch of assholes on Facebook.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 04:13 PM
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I think this belongs in /r/MensRants.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 12:52 PM
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That is some fucked up shit. It just goes to show whether straight or gay there are fucking assholes of all kinds.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 03:47 AM
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I was more concerned about women reporting a man taking a little girl into the men's toilets. Maybe that never happens?
/r/MensRights19/12/13 10:41 PM
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guess what happened? Santa Claus came and gave you presents.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 06:56 AM
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The relevant comments about how this isn't a big deal aside, you know that Wikipedia moderators are generally unpaid teenagers that answer to nobody, right? I remember editing an article once to fix up a spelling mistake in someone's name. Automatically undone by a moderator who doesn't bother to check anything, just runs a script to undo everything, and then fix it again when someone complains. That's the attitude. I don't donate to their little charity drives. Any company that literally gives …
/r/MensRights19/12/13 06:48 AM
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It's reddit where arbitrary people have authority over others and answer to nobody. It gets pretty tough on here. I'm sorry to hear this loss has affected you though personally you should (in a twisted way) be glad you haven't gotten death threats yet for your allegedly "misogynistic" views like some of us. Some people on here are literally crazy and out to destroy the lives of others they don't agree with. I understand and also enjoy that feeling of safety that comes from having a forum or sub …
/r/MensRights19/12/13 05:21 AM
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I imagine if you get belligerent over it then society turns around and makes it seem like you're now a violent male too - not just a human being with a child that demands equal treatment.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 03:32 AM
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That is so sad to hear. If I had a little girl one day I can only imagine the terror that is going to happen - either taking her into the men's room, or taking her into the woman's room. You can't win.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 03:30 AM
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Isn't there also a difference between being declared not guilty, and another thing (the phrase escapes me) where the judge declares you could not have committed a crime?
/r/MensRights19/12/13 02:33 AM
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Yes it belongs in mensrants.
/r/MensRights18/12/13 12:46 PM
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Grow some balls I care about these words because it's always in the context of male-bashing, it's derogatory and intended to emasculate other men who are men no matter what choices they make (and is sexist besides, as if you can only be strong if you have balls). I'm pretty sure telling someone to sac-up has never won a heart or mind and is just a testosterone pissing contest. You know who has a lot of sac? All those guys on death row. So anyone who wants to rise to the top go murder someone, ge…
/r/MensRights17/12/13 01:46 AM
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Or cooties!
/r/MensRights17/12/13 01:41 AM
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I remember that happened with those Bulger kids. At least one of them, when released, continued on doing similar crimes didn't they?
/r/MensRights14/12/13 03:16 PM
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I'm not one of you, but I think there are a few reasons. One is that people don't know any better - they aren't taught relationship management in school so the only examples they have are Hollywood and their dirtbag friends or parents. Secondly people are taught to be stupid and often don't think about things, which comes from growing up in a world where if you self analyse anything you're going to get beaten up as a geek or smart person. The last reason will be because society is stacked agains…
/r/MGTOW08/12/13 04:21 AM
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This can be explained with group-think rather than a male/female divide though. I also think it's acceptable to ask for something and then change your mind when you realize you don't like it - people often don't know until they can actually see it. Better than keeping quiet and secretly hating something :-(
/r/MensRights07/12/13 09:29 AM
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Okay so here's what I've been able to surmise: She has a kid from another relationship, and a kid with this guy. They've been living together a long time, de-facto / engaged. She quit her job with his support in order to look after the children. She catches him cheating, twice. He kicks her out of the house. She also cheats at some point, giving him a claim to counter-sue. They break up. It's not as straightforward as the title or news story makes it seems, and these aren't the actions of two no…
/r/MensRights07/12/13 09:24 AM
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I would welcome people questioning the need for advocacy. Those people may listen to a discussion and have their minds swayed. The last time I brought up equal rights I was threatened with being reported as an unstable potential serial killer with no respect for women likely about to murder the female members of my family. What the fuck? Now what I had said was that if a woman in public is in danger, then other women should assist her instead of just leaving it to men to put themselves at physic…
/r/MensRights03/12/13 12:58 PM
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By using extremely limited sociological or political definitions of their words which only support one argument, their argument. In their view the word racism specifies a condition that can only exist where one race has traditionally had control over another race. In their examples as blacks did not traditionally have control over white people nothing they do (against other races) can be seen as racism nor as a hate-crime. They use a similar definition for the word sexism. Women did not traditio…
/r/MensRights03/12/13 12:50 PM
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Haha, that second text could REALLY backfire during sentencing if you're found guilty - taunting the victim!
/r/MensRights27/11/13 09:47 AM
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Sometimes I wonder if people hear that and think - I may as we'll go rape someone because I'm going I be branded a rapist whether I do or don't anyway. I know it sounds crazy and you'd have to be sick to rape someone. I can't even imagine. But when the government enacts shitty laws you always have that group of people who go out of their way to violate it. That's exactly why innocent until guilty, and reasonable doubt are so important. The likelihood of you not being jailed while innocent is mea…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 01:28 PM
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I do. But the silence is not enough for me. I want to hear them say it, to watch as those all-important words finally come out of their mouths: "A woman's life is more important than a man's life." I want them to say it because I want other men to hear to it. Their silent tacit agreement is not enough for me. I want to see and hear them make that conscious decision and conclusion: "I am going to accept that my life is worth less than a woman's life." With the nature of our disposability finally …
/r/MensRights26/11/13 07:27 AM
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I don't really want to participate in that discussion. Neither of us knows enough about the women each of us date, and I don't think we could come to any set of ground-rules through comparing even the most detailed of notes. It's really the realm of proper scientific studies IMHO. To be clear, those that steal sperm are scum and you should feel free to do whatever you need to protect yourself including changing the laws to be more balanced. I totally support you and I feel so sorry for you. But …
/r/MensRights26/11/13 03:20 AM
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I'd pay to see this happen. Literally, where the fuck does adoption come into the judge's ruling about parents being forced to support their children? Or is it literally only for men?
/r/MensRights26/11/13 03:05 AM
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SOME women were 'accident' prone with attractive sperm dispensers FTFY
/r/MensRights26/11/13 03:04 AM
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You're just putting words in my mouth trying to troll. I can see you don't care about men's rights, defamation, the law, or even the right thing. The moment you start calling people wrong and accusing them of backpedaling when no such thing was done, it's pretty obvious. Have fun with yourself.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 03:17 AM
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We don't have libel here. We only have defamation. I said this is what would happen if they had said that here, in Australia/UK. I made it clear America would be different. Comparing and contrasting laws between first-world countries is fun. Try to enjoy it.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 02:04 AM
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Are you just giving me a policy lesson? I'm not "giving you" anything. I'm adding what little I do know about media law and defamation to the thread for anyone who is interested, because it happens to be more than most who have never done a class would know. Does it count as defamation if the NTP republished his personal information and actual thoughts and words exactly as they appear on his Twitter account which he volunteered for public viewing? I don't think so. Well to be clear this is not a…
/r/MensRights25/11/13 01:42 AM
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In Australia we have defamation rather than libel. All that's required for there to be a case is: A person is identified. Something is published. An imputation is made that would, when read by anormal member of the public, reduce their opinion of your character. The only defence is the truth. The burden for truth is extremely high (this is a court room after all) and I think it could be well defended. However this isn't just about what was said but the imputations of what was said. IMHO NameTheP…
/r/MensRights24/11/13 06:24 AM
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I technically agree with the first part (never signed the rules in blood myself for the second part). However think of this in the realm of a normal conversation with your friends. One doesn't normally knock back everything they say, requiring a high degree of evidence and taking everything seriously. Sometimes it's the social norm to just let shit go. I know it's confusing. We're a movement with goals and also friends. Where do we draw the line? I don't know but it explains what's happening.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 03:51 AM
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I don't know but it doesn't appear so. I just studied one unit of media law and they basically said it was truly the realm of rich people.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 03:48 AM
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If it's in America free speech will trump all. If it's in UK/Australia he's up $100k+ legal bills to launch a defamation case but would have a very good chance of winning (whether he could recoup losses I don't know). That's why defamation is a double-edged sword. It's so expensive that can rarely afford to launch the case. But the falsely accused also can't afford to defend themselves. So it comes into who has the most money. PS: This is why I don't do any MRA on Twitter. You think reddit is sc…
/r/MensRights24/11/13 02:17 AM
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You're not being down-voted because you're wrong but because you sound like a smug asshole. These men aren't saying she should literally be shot. They are venting their anger at an extremely unjust, unequal, sexist situation, and you're doing a Michael Jackson moonwalk all over it which feels demeaning because you're not meant to be dancing right now.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 02:09 AM
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I pretty much down vote any comment that uses bra, bro, boy, son, and even sometimes "mate" because they are almost always men demeaning other men.
/r/MensRights19/11/13 07:32 AM
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If it was a smaller man he must have had a Napoleon complex and done something to deserve it.
/r/MensRights19/11/13 07:31 AM
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"Boys will be boys!"
/r/MensRights19/11/13 07:30 AM
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I read the article but it wasn't clear what tactics women were employing while they were "emotional". Personally I feel like the silent treatment is the most toxic for any relationship - also the more time you spend angry at each other the more time you start planning scenarios to get the fuck out because nobody likes being in pain like that for extended periods of time. It's made all the more worse by men whose primary defense mechanism is the silent treatment, myself included, and then are unk…
/r/MensRights18/11/13 05:49 AM
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Mother knocks herself out cold while the working father is playing double duty and picking up the mess. Sounds about right.
/r/MensRights18/11/13 05:39 AM
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That is the argument I hear. Also the counter argument for taxing it is, "I don't want to pay taxes to support YOUR child." Because people seem to think that raising it is your responsibility (even in the cases it's NOT yours) but don't see how that is relevant to them. Assholes.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 02:28 PM
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Woo her with kindness and acts of service. wat
/r/MGTOW17/11/13 01:43 PM
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This is revolting.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 07:22 AM
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Goddammit you people, where else are we going to get all those baby bits we need day to day?!
/r/MensRights14/11/13 07:05 AM
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No shit.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 06:32 AM
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Link is dead?
/r/MensRights09/11/13 05:49 AM
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Let me break it down for you because you're confused. If parents don't take their kids to McDonalds, it's because of an overbearing father. If parents do take their kid to McDonalds, it's because of a lazy father. If a father takes their kid to McDonalds, it's because he's a piece of shit trying to turn the kid against the mother. If a mother takes their kid to McDonalds she's a saint. Maybe we need a wall poster.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 03:23 AM
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Can a child make that decision though? I know we're getting off track. Adults present less problems in this regard. I can just see how it would be hard to make laws like this. That is no excuse not to have laws protecting body privacy though.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 05:26 AM
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Police: You scratch my back I scratch the dead hooker in the trunk of your car. Judge: I don't ha... oh. sign Justice.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 05:12 AM
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That's how customs does it. If you don't consent you get locked into a room for a few days with a non-flushing toilet. I saw it on TV.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 05:10 AM
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Counter-point: child is going to die, parents refuse medical procedure because they believe Jesus is about to heal them. Still against intervention?
/r/MensRights06/11/13 05:10 AM
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This is old news that was posted on here weeks ago, repeatedly.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 08:17 AM
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In America, if you try to do that you go to jail. If you don't pay you go to jail. If you can't afford to pay you go to jail. If you don't have a job enough to pay, no matter what the reason, you go to jail. And the bill keeps increasing while you're in there. I have feels for those guys.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 11:24 AM
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Well technically it could leave two people with one eye each :-P
/r/MensRights03/11/13 11:42 AM
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You don't even have to be in men's rights in order to be accused of being an MRA - as if it was a bad thing. What label you put on it doesn't matter. It's the message (that men and women should be treated equally) that people hate. People who can think for themselves don't avoid MRM because of the name. Your logic on a name change isn't going to help the rest.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 09:34 AM
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Shrug, including women sounds like a good idea. Replacing it all with women for a period of time before going equal also sounds fine. The problem is how long is long enough? Some feminists argue that men should be subservient to women for as long as women were subservient to men (allegedly the entirety of human history as we know it). And I don't buy that argument.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 08:58 AM
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No. I also find it funny that nobody mentioned, "Fuck God" when the guy got put in jail, allegedly even though the person who did it was created by a God. But when everything comes good after everyone's hard work? Praise Jesus!
/r/MensRights02/11/13 07:16 AM
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That page is full of some ridiculous religious nuts. Every comment on his release post is about praising Jesus and how much they had prayed for him. A judge and crazy woman put him in jail. Lawyers and TV and community support got him out. God had nothing to fucking do with it. Now I'm wondering if all of America is like that :-/
/r/MensRights02/11/13 06:14 AM
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He wasn't even allegedly hiding her. He was jailed for not compelling her to return to her abusive mother. There's a difference.
/r/MensRights02/11/13 06:09 AM
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The link is being discussed on /r/worldnews. This is what I had to say about how it is relevant: She's complaining about how 80% of women are in prison only for short stays and non-violent crimes and are mothers - so this is all wrong. But it ignores that the majority of the prison system is men, who receive sentences 2x longer than women for the same criminal history and the same crimes, and many of them are fathers. But fuck the men, right? When it happens to a woman, the system has to be chan…
/r/MensRights30/10/13 10:09 AM
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Others here said you were wrong, who do I believe? Also what diseases would you prefer to support?
/r/MensRights21/10/13 11:41 AM
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Re: the cancer statistics I think it was that prostate cancer is likely to hit guys who are older and going to die anyway, so it doesn't get as much funding as breast cancer that can often hit women earlier in life. That doesn't really help the young guys with cancer though.
/r/MensRights21/10/13 06:25 AM
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So seeing as the article doesn't show he was falsely accused or anything, I'm going to assume it was posted here because of this: introduced legislation to remove the responsibility for the prosecution of rape, sexual assault and other criminal cases from the chain of command And that it was posted here because feminists want ONE thing changed about the law, but don't give a shit about anything else being handled by the courts instead of military justice. Hmmm.
/r/MensRights20/10/13 05:02 AM
1

Is it illegal though? I want to see the specific law.
/r/MensRights16/10/13 10:58 AM
7

Explanation: Her hand-out is now divided by an additional child. FTFY
/r/MensRights15/10/13 06:58 AM
11

Women and girls, said Miss Gillard, had a right to an environment 'that treats you with respect, treats you as an equal and raising your voice about that isn't starting a war, it isn't playing the victim, it's just asking for what simply is right.' Women and girls. Not men.
/r/MensRights02/10/13 08:26 AM
3

I read an erotic story once cough where the daughter was explaining to her father that the increased risk in hereditary diseases wasn't as simple as you'd imagine - it varies in a unexpected way with different family members, and the risks can be quite small. I don't know if it was true or not though.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 05:24 PM
7

I agree there's something odd about it. It said he was married to her mother for 5 years now so he has been her father from 16 to 21. I wonder if there's a perception he may have been grooming her for sex all this time - and/or failed in his duty of care by abusing his position as her parent.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 05:21 PM
3

I imagined they were two camps. I guess it must have been very scary to have been filming the MRA then have been surrounded by anti-MRA.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 10:20 AM
13

I can hardly make out what anyone is saying. I suspect the people in the group making the video are the anti-MRA ones misinterpreting everything as "anti-gay" and screaming "racists"? What the fuck?
/r/MensRights29/09/13 05:30 AM
2

I wonder how about the gender ratio of people leaving those comments.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 05:34 AM
6

When I argue with feminists that men are raped more often once prison is included, I often get told, "But it's overwhelmingly the men doing the raping." What do the rest of you do to combat this kind of thinking? My method is to point out that the victim has a right to support regardless of the gender of the rapist, and that "men" in general are not rapists, these are still a tiny portion of the overall population - like all criminals. It doesn't always win them over. What do you think?
/r/MensRights25/09/13 12:54 PM
1

Yep I assume genders are the same until it's proven otherwise ;-) That's equality. Ok. So when all the boys were at the arcade, where were the girls? I don't know what culture was like at that time.
/r/MensRights14/09/13 03:19 PM
3

I died a little when C&VG closed its doors. I never read the magazine but their podcast was great.
/r/MensRights14/09/13 11:28 AM
2

Were you around back then? I'm curious if girls were into arcade gaming and home consoles. I'd assume they were, but ...
/r/MensRights14/09/13 11:27 AM
8

Her interviews with Matt Chatt were pretty fantastic, some of the best. (They're on YouTube, if anyone loves video games and doesn't know what Matt Chatt is, you're missing out). Matt brightens my day for an hour a week or so and makes me think there are some good people left in the world to look up to.
/r/MensRights14/09/13 11:25 AM
3

I tip my hat to your positivity.
/r/MensRights13/09/13 03:06 PM
8

To be fair, he just got taught a very valuable lesson about privacy - sadly from his own family. Now whether he learned from it or not is up to him.
/r/MensRights13/09/13 02:01 PM
-7

What is irrational is that girls will think that woman is a stuck-up bitch and how dare she preach to them; but at the same time will dislike the boy because he hates his mother for just destroying his social life... and how could any good boy hate their own mother?!
/r/MensRights13/09/13 02:00 PM
20

That won't happen. Instead they'll change the laws to recognise females as criminals when they commit crimes (in stark contrast to today's world). That way female police officers can chase the female perps, and the drag etc will balance everything out.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 04:17 PM
5

A guy was alone playing in the park on the swings outside my house with a kid today. I was looking at it thinking, what kind of sick fuck would look at this and automatically assume there was something untoward here? It was his kid, the most natural thing in the world. And yet I see posts here every day of parents calling the police because its suspicious. Fuck.
/r/MensRights08/09/13 12:28 PM
1

Thanks for the breakdown, it's not something I was thinking about (too busy getting angry). Can I ask, is this line of thought something you've made yourself, or from general browsing, or a good book that you got the idea from? Cheers
/r/MensRights05/09/13 08:15 AM
1

Their discussion then goes to this article: http://rebeccahains.wordpress.com/2013/09/04/a-response-to-mrs-hall-teaching-our-boys-respect-and-self-control/ Here's a few choice quotes: She places the responsibility for her teenage boys’ sexual desires on teenage girls, rather than on the boys themselves. Furthermore, the sexual double-standard in our society is so pervasive that any “sexy” photos the boys may post of themselves are unlikely to cause them similar harm. (I'm reminded of the case wh…
/r/MensRights05/09/13 05:15 AM
15

I find it weird that as a man I'm responsible for the behaviour of any other man. I don't know if any single woman is responsible for the issues caused by every other woman on the planet though. As far as I know I'm only responsible for myself.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 04:03 AM
4

They could withdraw consent at any time without even notifying you (because they were too scared to speak up 5 minutes into penetration, obviously). So even written consent would be worthless.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 04:01 AM
3

I have seen attractive women get rejected, not for sex, but just for conversation in the club. The guys that were rejecting them were good looking though.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 03:59 AM
1

claiming you showed the rest of the gap was due to discrimination Oh. Well, I wasn't trying to. Heh. The only gap I know of is the 2% Warren Farrell said was unaccounted for. Plenty of feminists use the raw wage gap figures. That could be where the confusion comes from. That's what I was trying to point out. Seeing as we seem to agree I'll leave this here.
/r/MensRights03/09/13 01:43 AM
1

I don't disagree with anything else you said, except this: No-one here is saying that figure adjustment is wrong. At least one person on the thread said that raw data matches with zero factors adjusted - I don't know if they were talking about a specific study. Then they went on to, at length, saying no adjustments are done whatsoever. Almost the entirety of my argument was against that. So now I'm not sure what you think the difference is between what I said and what you said.
/r/MensRights03/09/13 12:08 AM
0

I don't know whether there's a comprehension problem here or what. If I cut and paste the parts of the studies showing they adjust their figures for certain components, is that going to do it -or am I still going to be accused of being an idiot? There is literally nothing wrong with figure adjustment when it's explained. But you cannot bury your head in the sand and just act like it doesn't happen at all -it flies in the face of science. The arguments about raw data are an explanation for part o…
/r/MensRights02/09/13 11:49 PM
5

This was the sentence handed down from my previous submission: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1lb5et/male_child_sexually_assaulted_by_teacher_judge/ Despite the horrific victim's impact statement, the judge's inappropriate comments, and knowing a female would get some reprieve, even I'm completely shocked at the leniency shown.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 05:20 AM
1

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/female-teacher-jailed-for-student-sex/story-e6frg6nf-1226709010211 Two years and three months, elligible for parole next July. Pussy pass. Imagine a male teacher raping an underage teenage girl getting less than a year of actual jail time!
/r/MensRights02/09/13 04:34 AM
-1

It's science. The method isn't up for debate. This guy and others just want the conclusion. Somehow me talking about how the conclusion is reached is sacrosanct. If warren farrell or any other humanities scientist was here or anyone else educated they would tell you this is exactly how it's done. It's mind boggling that people here are terrified of hearing work goes into producing a study and its not a straightforward reporting of the facts, as if that makes it invalid. It doesn't. And yet they …
/r/MensRights01/09/13 01:59 AM
8

he should be held as accountable -- if not more -- for this ridiculous national spectacle Males are responsible for the actions taken by adult females now? No thanks. This comment: Of course no one is talking about Robin Thicke's role in the act. The guys always get away with it in our slut-shaming culture. Makes my head spin.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 05:17 PM
11

I was in that same thread and noticed the same comment, but for different reasons. I hadn't picked up on the anti-male vibe but just noticed they were just shutting down the discussion on zero evidence. And then people were upvoting! "Hey we're segregating who can say what now. But that doesn't matter because you're a racist." What? Good catch.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 05:03 PM
1

It's really that old adage, "Lies, damned lies, and statistics", isn't it? Most people would think raw data has the answers but I don't think it ever does. It goes through a lot of manipulation to derive meaning (right, wrong, or neutral). But yeah that's an interesting thought experiment of yours, how much of the raw data that appears to point to males being disadvantaged, actually has undiscovered factors explaining them? I don't even want to think about it though... it's not like we don't hav…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 04:48 PM
1

My entire quote was: These are the same fucking thing. The raw data is literally that the total earnings don't add up. My "feminist argument = total earnings" is not your "feminist argument = same amount of work." I had not said your two sentences were the same, just the clauses within the sentence in quotation marks, which is also what I qualified with my second sentence. Pretty cheap to try to make it seem like everything hinges on two words, though. I don't think it changes the main thrust of…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 04:20 PM
2

Nope. I'm not going in this circle again though. I have zero interest in you anymore.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 04:14 PM
1

My understanding of the feminist assertion is a simpler, "women earn less than men", and it's technically true, and also wrong. "Women earn less for the same amount of work," is your creation. I don't think I ever said that, and the question is going to be phrased differently for every study. My other comments are an attempt to open your mind to some of the complexities of studies that you are so eager to ignore. But you don't get it or want it, so whatever. Calling me dishonest and cunt again. …
/r/MensRights31/08/13 04:12 PM
0

I call you out for being wrong, then you go back and edit the original statement. I don't feel that you've successfully pinned me wrong yet on any count, new or old. I did not edit the basis for any argument whatsoever, I did clarify some things and rewrite them to be simpler, and removed much of the bad language because, eh, I'm a better person than you even if it takes me a few minutes to calm down and get there. I don't like calling people names on the internet. However, the motive you ascrib…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 04:07 PM
0

Fucking hell, you want to pride yourself on being an expert but you can't even follow the most basic logical train. Surely you can understand that there are lots of paths to take when choosing how you're going to answer a question. Some studies will absolutely be on hours worked and come to conclude a wage gap. Not every difference accounted for has anything to do with hours (quantitative); many are qualitative differences like types of jobs, chasing promotions, years working, etc. No study repr…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 04:04 PM
0

Now, not only are you mind-reading a stranger over the internet to know my "true" intentions, I must then also be engaged in subterfuge to hide my actions, purely for the purposes of... something? What the fuck dude, get a grip.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 03:58 PM
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Keep calling me a berk, and other names, it's making you look REALLY grown up and intelligent. Yes I do go back to edit my responses because unlike you I care about thinking and saying things in the best way possible, not just listening to myself speak. How on earth does the raw data support the feminist notion that women are paid less than men for the same amount of work? If women earn $X, and men earn $X + 30%, the feminist argument that men are paid more than women is sound. The other questio…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 03:51 PM
-5

You're an asshole. Zero understanding of studies done, yet you want to act like an expert. Then an expert comes along and then you don't like them because they have technical words and disagree with you. Then you have the gall to call your lack of knowledge an "argument". There are no adjustments, look at the factors? The factors are fucking adjustments, and the final "there is no wage gap" is a conclusion <- figures <- adjustments <- raw data. Your initial assertion of "The problem is that the …
/r/MensRights31/08/13 03:38 PM
-4

No, adjustments are NOT made. You record the figures of working hours. That is raw data. Now how do you account for the "women take more sick days"? Do you just write it onto the end of your study? "Well, here is the raw data saying 70%, but I just want to say that women take more sick days, ipso facto men and women are paid equally." What about less "hoursy" things like pregnancy? Chasing promotions? Industry choices? No, your list of equalising statements have to be quantified to factors, inco…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 03:23 PM
1

Well, to be absolutely fair, there are a shitload of conflicting (even recent) studies. Let me finish... The problem is that the raw data ones support the feminist argument. The ones which say there is no difference are because adjustments are made to cover the differences between male and female lifestyles. The thing is that I don't know if those adjustments can be "proven" true in the same way the figures can. I haven't looked that closely, I suppose feminists haven't either. I hope they are b…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 03:10 PM
7

I felt hearing the victim's impact statement was important, we rarely hear those in these kinds of cases and really drove home the negative effects that carried on later in his life. Normally this would really crush the "every boy wants it and this sexual assault thing is just an age-based technicality" argument, though sadly somehow this was completely lost on the judge!!! As for what you said I personally also might have liked one or two teachers in high school - but as an adult I wouldn't tou…
/r/MensRights29/08/13 06:56 AM
3

If you saw the actual news headline they used, you would have no idea it was a female teacher until you're halfway through the article. It's no wonder everyone assumes men are the perpetrators and not the victims when this is all they see. Her lawyer tried to argue that because he was 15 years 8 months that she needs special treatment because a few months difference and she wouldn't have been breaking the law (I mean, despite a teacher sleeping with a 16yo under her care, what the fuck?) But wha…
/r/MensRights29/08/13 04:03 AM
1

wat
/r/MensRights28/08/13 12:57 PM
16

Only if you have the money to support yourself without that career. That's the point the commenter is hitting at. I fucking hate my job. But I have to pay rent. Pursuing life dreams doesn't come into it unless I'm comfortable being homeless, which I'm not.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 02:17 AM
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I'm going to ask you not to come back to this park and not to talk to any of the children who you were speaking to today. That's pretty fucked. Your tax dollars built that park, and pay his salary, and pay for the children's schools, and talking to children or anyone else isn't a crime. I'm amazed at the stories of composure I'm reading here when people are being harassed by the police. I don't think I'd be able to keep my calm so easily :-(
/r/MensRights23/08/13 10:27 AM
7

I just don't understand how the fuck this happens.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 07:48 AM
2

/r/MensRants is more appropriate.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 06:07 AM
2

Not sure why I'm being downvoted. I spent half an hour writing that to help a fellow guy. At least say what you disagree with.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 05:05 AM
0

If you don't want a relationship that is totally cool and a valid choice. However you mentioned /r/seduction so I have a little to add to that. I was a big part of the seduction community starting from well over a decade ago, and while I have nothing negative to say about the tactics and techniques, do not believe anything you read about what women "in general" are like. I met almost all of the major PUAs and they were awesome guys. None of them could not get any particular woman, but they could…
/r/MensRights21/08/13 12:02 AM
24

Don't beat yourself up. In the same way that some people are killers but most of us are not, some women are cheaters and most are not. (Or I might have the some/most mixed up, it doesn't matter). If it's important to you put a lot of work into screening for the right kind of woman, and making it clear (and not just once but over time) how and why monogamy and not-cheating is important to you, while sticking to the same standards yourself. While it's true some people will do this and still get co…
/r/MensRights20/08/13 03:06 PM
1

What do Internet trolls do when they really LIKE something then?
/r/MensRights18/08/13 03:53 AM
3

You both have a lot of energy. Everyone here is raping and killing and I'm just sitting here masturbating.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 03:52 AM
18

It's not that bad of an idea. There have been plenty of baby mix-ups in the hospitals. Even some reddit AMAs.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 07:47 AM
24

Yes. Without a doubt. You have a right to know who your real father is.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 07:45 AM
2

2011...
/r/MensRights14/08/13 11:04 AM
4

Even if it was 20%, the answer would still be, "But it's still 80% men, and the rest were either abused by men or men forced them to do it." Of course I've raised, "But more women commit child abuse as a whole instead of just the sexual component," and I get told, "But that's because there are more women looking after children." So it's okay to make any excuse you want as long as it's a woman. But if you're a man, no amount of excuses or explaining will do.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 12:49 PM
2

I'm sensing a business opportunity.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 03:30 PM
1

I think people have a lot of names for different ants. Are you referring to black ones about 1cm long as bull ants? Because those just bite. Bulldog ants (also called soldier ants, I think, I get confused) are longer, redder, and have a permanent sting on the tail. Kind of like a wasp but if it gets you your leg will swell up to the size of a soccer ball. I've seen pictures... they are the stuff my nightmares are made of.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 03:28 PM
4

Etiquette demands you stay until 11 minutes and then kill them all.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 03:25 PM
0

First of all, I disagree that all parties and politicians can be accurately placed into a left box or a right box (many are one or the other depending on the policy, and many are middle ground). Secondly it wasn't just left and right but "leftist... democratic liberal... based in marxist class warfare". That's hard to take seriously. I'm not trying to take the intellectual high ground, if anything I'm trying to do the opposite and point a conversation to where normal human beings can discuss it.…
/r/MensRights02/08/13 07:29 AM
4

I didn't want to call you pseudo-intellectual, I want us all to get along and have a nice discussion. But I do feel you forced me into a negative position by using unnecessarily complex (but vague and meaningless) words then not elaborating to the point where we can all contribute for or against.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 05:31 AM
9

I don't want to be rude, but the pseudo-intellectual terms you use have no relevance in describing modern politics, politicians, parties, platforms, or laws. If you want people to agree or disagree, you'll need to be specific about laws instead of imagining parties, politicians, and onlookers universally subscribe to the same 1980s worldview as you. As it stands nobody can because you're being so broad and obtuse what you've said is meaningless and can't be confirmed or denied.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 04:26 AM
2

Explain? Modern politics in western countries isn't left/right, it's all middle.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 03:49 AM
4

Men die much younger than women so... we should pay women more money! In a way though this makes more sense. If you live longer you need more savings to support yourself for those extra years of life. Now, it's an ass-backwards way of approaching it. Maybe instead we should have spent that time and money on investigating why men die early and extended our lifespan. But no, we'll throw it at the other end instead...
/r/MensRights02/08/13 03:47 AM
6

Their justification for it is that it's about long-term equality. Short-term equality is paying people equal wages. Long-term equality is about paying one gender more because (allegedly and because of reasons that were not discussed in the article) they will have less money in their superannuation when they're older. And that's where I think the "equality" part falls down. You don't have equality by adding tags and disclaimers to it. I mean by that definition we used to have long-term equality b…
/r/MensRights02/08/13 03:46 AM
33

This is wrong on so many levels. I don't see any investigation into why their super is less, it's just assumed to be child rearing - and then fathers are completely ignored. Women are being paid more for the lifestyle choice of possibly having children. Women who do not make that choice will also be paid more. Fathers and hard-working non-fathers will not be given that choice despite being just as important in the family unit. Instead they are forced to the opposite choice; you must work to supp…
/r/MensRights01/08/13 11:42 PM
5

It should be attempted murder.
/r/MensRights31/07/13 06:59 AM
5

"This is my woman. There are many like it. But this one is mine." I see. Thanks for correcting me.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 06:33 AM
2

Felony gang assault. I hope it sticks.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 03:48 AM
20

"May I please put my arm around you?" 'Yes.' "That's consent to sex! No take-backs!"
/r/MensRights30/07/13 03:24 AM
7

So it's a comforting reach-around? "Hey, sorry I just raped you and all, but maybe we can be friends." This changes everything. Sorry to say I side with the feminists on this one! :-P
/r/MensRights30/07/13 03:23 AM
1

I can't stomach any kind of beans... so chilli con carne is out. Can you get beanless ones?
/r/MensRights28/07/13 03:23 PM
1

I knew I could look it up but I felt like some human interaction :-(
/r/MensRights28/07/13 02:50 PM
1

So, what exactly is a chilli dog? I know it's a hot dog, but ... you just put chilli sauce on it?
/r/MensRights28/07/13 02:39 PM
13

By mocking the lesson we taught him, you're enabling a future potential criMANal to rape and murder women. Fucking rape apologist SCUM! -Feminists (Seriously this makes me extremely sad. I don't like children or babies but this is horrific even to me).
/r/MensRights27/07/13 03:15 AM
13

The happy ending of the illegal porn guy: http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Daughter-ban-lifted-dad-downloaded-child-porn/story-15505738-detail/story.html I mean the man who had his child stolen from him had the ban lifted a few days later because of mass media intervention at how ridiculous it was. The state has too much power to take children from families just by following procedure IMHO.
/r/MensRights27/07/13 02:45 AM
22

No it was a scissor-proof child.
/r/MensRights27/07/13 02:42 AM
8

Few in this thread care what the standards are. The rest of us care that the standards are different.
/r/MensRights27/07/13 02:18 AM
0

That turned dark quickly. Personally reading through this thread I can't help but notice how many people here judge others for simply being unable to do an arbitrary number of pushups. That explains a lot. Heaven forbid we encourage intelligent men and women who do good deeds. No, let's set the bar at a stupid and meaningless physical exercise. Stephen Hawking wants a word with you. Edit: Not because he would be fit for an FBI agent. My point isn't the story but what people are saying about the …
/r/MensRights27/07/13 02:00 AM
2

American celebrities regularly sue Australian gossip magazines and win. The problem is that the amounts they win (hundreds of thousands) are much less than the magazines will earn by printing the complete bullshit (millions). So the magazines print whatever they want, and put money aside to pay lawsuits as part of daily business.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 09:45 AM
5

Defamation in Australia is not just what you said but the imputations of what you said. If the words + imputations would lower someone's opinion of you, it's defamation. There is no way writing in mass media that you're a fat old beardy creepy guy will end well for the publisher, no matter how fat, old, or beardy you are. In America though, where it likely came from, they have free speech so it's all moot.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 04:44 AM
1

Fair enough. You have very likely read it more thoroughly than I have.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 04:16 AM
2

It probably belongs in mensrants. But what they say about him is something they are thinking about all of us.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 03:42 AM
5

Fat old beardy? What the fuck? That's defamation right there, in Australia at least.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 03:40 AM
9

Australia isn't doing much better. They wanted the same thing turned on years ago. We're extremely lucky it didn't end up happening, but it will, down the track. I don't think I'm going to much like the world in another 20-40 years :-/ I don't like where it's going at all.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 12:19 PM
1

The title of "Manosphere" also bugged me out, who the fuck talks like that? Also I have Iron John on the bookshelf but haven't read it yet...
/r/MensRights22/07/13 08:11 AM
1

I absolutely know how you feel. Sometimes this place is crippling and absolutely true, though sometimes some of the sources (especially on court cases) are sketchy and I suspect some of them aren't true. Sometimes when I get home my girlfriend can see on my face how much reading this stuff affects me, and I tell her about what I read that day. Rarely does she side on anything except reason and equality, and I feel a bit better about the world - and then wonder what the fuck is wrong with the med…
/r/MensRights22/07/13 05:11 AM
9

I hope you posted that in the comments.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 01:24 AM
2

That fucking sucks. But that said, to borrow a phrase from women, what about the kind of violence where they aren't hitting you, and just slowly destroying your life with their other mind games? Emotional violence is important too.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 01:19 AM
4

This makes me fucking sick.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 12:58 AM
0

Personally I would have liked a more official source than some weird website.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 02:48 PM
-2

Thanks Obama.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 03:32 AM
2

It's cool. If the downvoters are liberals who want change no matter what and will go out and make it, all the better. I want change too. Really what I'm doing is wrong. I'm caving into the chilling effect of feminism because I don't want my life destroyed. Maybe I'm melodramatic but I feel like these are dangerous times :-( I follow a few celebrities (scientists etc) on twitter and made the mistake of pointing out inaccuracies in their statements about gender salaries and domestic violence. I go…
/r/MensRights12/07/13 08:00 AM
3

MR:E is alleged to have copied and modified the posters based on existing posters, that's the copyright issue (not MR:E themselves). I think it's bullshit, but it's out there. Cameras can pick you up on campus at night too. If things go bad (as they do in universities which are mostly self policing with little government oversight) you might be forced to leave your $20k-$100k+ education. I doubt it will happen but it might. I very almost lost my degree simply for criticising a pregnant teacher i…
/r/MensRights12/07/13 07:53 AM
3

The problem is that despite good references there are always more shitty references they use to support their "only women are battered" position.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 06:10 AM
1

Here's the reasons you shouldn't: The posters imitate other work where the original creators have claimed there are copyright issues. (I don't believe that will hold up but IANAL). Most campuses have strict rules about where to go for authorisation to put up posters. You should go to them first. Nothing on campus is ever anonymous, there are often cameras everywhere and it's not worth throwing away your education even for a good cause. The original intent of the posters was likely to draw positi…
/r/MensRights12/07/13 05:58 AM
6

But they didn't even apologize on behalf of all men for having penises. The feminists aren't going to take this laying down.
/r/MensRights11/07/13 03:19 PM
1

I heard the knocking at my door, I went to see who it was, and it was the sex discrimination team. They removed my penis. I am now safe. Thanks Obama.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 02:50 AM
4

Calm down.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 01:39 PM
-10

1) No context. 2) We didn't need to see the second half.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 01:14 AM
1

Western Australia. States have different laws and ours are often the most archaic of them all (though in some cases where laws are passed to limit our liberty and we're slow to the uptake, that can be a good thing too - like how over east now you have no right to remain silent).
/r/MensRights05/07/13 04:38 AM
2

I don't know who either person is.
/r/MensRights05/07/13 03:20 AM
4

"It's still men doing all the violence, who they hurt doesn't matter." "It's still far less common than female violence." "Just because males get hurt doesn't mean that female violence is justified!" (Huh) 3 arguments I hear every single time one of these comes up.
/r/MensRights05/07/13 03:17 AM
4

I see your point but seeing as you can't submit it, you'll just be facing both charges and have even more trouble. Then again it would be interesting how the newspapers etc would respond if the court refused to listen to the taping, convicted you, and then you could still prove and play it to everyone else showing you were innocent. You might make second page for a day and then be forgotten. But IANAL so I don't know if that stuff would even really be inadmissible or what.
/r/MensRights05/07/13 02:51 AM
3

It's illegal in my part of the world. It's a two party consent state for audio recording and being in public doesn't make any difference :-( I think the police like it because if you recorded a video of them beating some guy they can use it as an excuse to confiscate, as you've technically just broken wiretapping laws by also having audio without their consent.
/r/MensRights05/07/13 12:51 AM
3

It looks like a solid, professional product to me, with a lot of thought, money, time, software, servers, people, and materials put into it. It isn't just a hacked together piece of shit in your backyard. It's well priced.
/r/MensRights05/07/13 12:50 AM
5

In my tiny city of 2 million (Perth)... Aug 14, 2012 - Ten Perth taxi drivers have been convicted of sexual assault this year, on top of the 11 who were convicted last year There was also another recent case where a married women gets picked up from a known backpacker nightclub, then claims she was driven somewhere else and raped by that cab driver plus another he had called in. I'm not sure what the outcome was, but that guy was all over the news protesting his innocence, and the whole situatio…
/r/MensRights05/07/13 12:45 AM
3

I'm surprised his recording was enough. I hope she gets some jail time for this. It's also a sad case of affairs when you'd go to jail just based on someone's word and stuff - no rape kit or anything.
/r/MensRights05/07/13 12:40 AM
18

I love that yes can really mean no, but no never means yes. Ever. No matter what. Even if they smiled while nodding and winking and taking down their pants at the same time.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 04:13 AM
1

Except I think that your standard is going to be impossible to achieve, whereas the other (equality) is not.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 09:53 AM
4

I like how we are all expected to sacrifice our lives so he can have his ideal, even though that sacrifice in no way guarantees the attainment of that ideal and are instead are used as an example to justify why things need to be the way they are.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 06:15 AM
3

Both sides of almost every couple I know (including me) is co-dependant, except they're in denial about it.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 04:16 AM
4

They don't have to be "funny" to be jokes. They have to be something not real. And they're not real because people aren't all raping each other in the office. It is absolutely about PC.
/r/MensRights30/06/13 07:47 AM
6

If we lived in a non-PC world where neither gender has a right to sue I would be okay with it. After all, they are just jokes. The problems begin when one gender uses it against another, and then society takes notice and starts discriminating against that gender. Sue away, though I doubt how far it would go.
/r/MensRights30/06/13 06:08 AM
9

Oh well that's terrible. But it still worries me that they're using a law that could also be used against 100% innocent people.
/r/MensRights28/06/13 09:08 AM
7

I just read that news report and that's terrible. He was watching it on the train, 3 years later he's in jail for 3 months and will have the worst mark you could possibly have on your criminal record for the rest of his life. So he'll lose his job, maybe his profession, and not beable to get another one. Life successfully destroyed for watching a cartoon about fictional creatures - good one NZ! And to protect the public, OF COURSE!
/r/MensRights28/06/13 09:05 AM
0

wat
/r/MensRights27/06/13 07:00 AM
3

Really interesting. Just another case of where society steadfastly believes one thing which turns out to be utterly untrue. Men break up marriages with cheating? Nope. Even the women in the interviews seem to be blaming men for not being exciting enough! Heaven forbid some poor bastard wants to have a hobby and watch train DVDs from time to time. Honestly this makes me so sad and just crushes my hopes. I have a great girlfriend going on a few years now though. I hope something like this never ha…
/r/MensRights20/06/13 01:18 AM
10

She powers up by eating other empowered wimmen.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 10:30 AM
46

I feel more sorry for her husband. Like you can't be a hairdresser without being accused of being gay? That's pretty fucked up and anti-male as far as I'm concerned. How she turned this into an anti-female thing I don't know. She's paid $500kpa the same as male prime ministers, and she has to answer tough questions. Get used to it. America grilled Clinton and Arnie about their affairs. This is par for the course.
/r/MensRights15/06/13 10:26 AM
3

I didn't read the source, but to answer the question: please be blowjobs, please be blowjobs...
/r/MensRights12/06/13 05:01 AM
4

I don't think you should be down-voted, maybe it was your choice of word. While we are free to fight against the enforced duty of patriarchy (and perhaps monogamy), that doesn't mean people aren't allowed to chase the lifestyle of the happy family. He was going for the happy family and he was betrayed. I think that's what you were trying to say, and I agree with it. On another note I could never get in this situation. I will never love anyone enough to take on the responsibility of looking after…
/r/MensRights04/06/13 10:51 AM
55

I think they could probably complain about being ignored.
/r/MensRights25/05/13 12:13 PM
66

Correct. HR is about protecting the company from being sued, not protecting any individual employee or doing the right thing.
/r/MensRights25/05/13 12:10 PM
37

I like the cut of your jib. You're hired.
/r/MensRights25/05/13 12:08 PM
3

I can perform over 3 million privelege checks per second. Puny humans!
/r/MensRights25/05/13 02:37 AM
7

I like how every response is from a hipster teenager and the best they can do is be sarcastic and call him a swear word.
/r/MensRights25/05/13 02:35 AM
1

I don't know. But I have often dreamed about having $1 million and putting it straight into a normal 5% interest bank account, then living off of the $50kpa interest (before tax) without lifting a finger. $50kpa isn't a whole lot but it's plenty to live on while doing absolutely nothing. However as time goes on 10 - 20 years, inflation starts to take a big toll and that $50kpa will become less and less attractive. So you can do it but hopefully in those two decades you've learned a trade or some…
/r/MensRights23/05/13 04:13 AM
28

For arguments sake forget that this was seven years ago. From this point of view I almost got it - you might let someone get close to you, but things change when you realise they're rubbing off against you and blowing a load. Because it's changing the interaction from something casual and friendly to something sexual. Where her argument falls down is that she was kissing him, and while she chooses to believe kissing is casual, others believe kissing is a prelude to sex. That's why you (usually) …
/r/MensRights23/05/13 03:54 AM
2

I'm not sure what's more fucked up. The grown man believing in ghosts. The woman who cheated on her husband of 11 years. The son who cuckolded his own father (or is he a victim and so isn't responsible?) Either way I refuse to believe these are normal people.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:05 PM
-12

Isn't he the guy with binders of women? LOL.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 01:58 PM
9

What irritates me is that not only does the anonymous accuser get away without any punishment, but the people quoted in the article encourage gender stereotyping while using the ridiculous "for the children" argument. In my opinion having police - people with essentially unlimited power and leeway - come up and ask you questions when you haven't done anything wrong is a violation of your human right to freedom of enjoyment. No matter what these fucking cunts quoted in the article say, being in p…
/r/MensRights05/05/13 05:56 AM
6

''They held concerns so in the best interests of that child, they called police. It was not a malicious or vindictive move. It turned out to be a false alarm and that's great.'' Without the anonymous accuser being held accountable, how can we know the intent wasn't malicious or vindictive? ''It's better to be safe than sorry,'' she said. ''If a member of the public does see something that causes them concern, we encourage them to contact police and we will follow that up.'' It's not better safe …
/r/MensRights05/05/13 05:51 AM
3

Pretty sure science can replace a heart. Can't replace balls complete with DNA though.
/r/MensRights03/05/13 12:37 PM
3

Just reading that made me so fucking angry.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 11:05 AM
1

Well that escalated quickly.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 07:05 AM
0

I think most people here are supportive of /r/Childfree though it may not be something they automatically think about because we are such a minority group. I'm not sure which other comment triggered your response though.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 10:28 PM
1

I was joking but I will take it. It just shows how bad the situation for men is, when we believe someone could hold that as an actual opinion. On a lighter note it would sure save stress down the line when the gov does whatever it can to force procreation.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 10:27 PM
5

One reasonable answer I can think of is he is paying for the privilege of continuing his genetic material. Even if he didn't want the kid, his genes are directly benefiting from its continued existence. Where it breaks down is that you can argue due to nature/nurture that nature isn't enough for the kid to be yours. Also, it falls down when guys look after offspring that aren't theirs and suddenly get declared the rightful parent for it.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 11:35 AM
7

The bin liner. IANAL.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 11:33 AM
-2

That's a good idea. Add a tax on all men from the time they start earning money, and put it aside to pay for any future children they may or may not have.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 11:33 AM
-1

He said that people who don't like children are hateful garbage. As if there is some law we all have to LIKE children. That's an idiotic statement.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 01:47 AM
0

And yet when it comes to asking for a date ...
/r/MensRights05/04/13 04:05 AM
2

Can I keep my patriarchy card? I haven't had a chance to use it yet, but sometimes it's useful for prying open locks or picking my teeth with.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 05:45 AM
6

My father ran away before I was born, so my mum was single too. It definitely had negative repercussions through my whole life that only subsided once I reached my early-20s. I'm in my 30s now and I will still never feel the same as everyone else. I remember a few months ago on YouTube I saw an old guy teaching viewers how to make some special coffee and he seemed really cool. I started crying and I left a message saying, I wish I had a father like you. And he sent me a reply saying thanks. When…
/r/MensRights04/04/13 05:36 AM
0

Hahahahahaha
/r/MensRights31/03/13 03:58 PM
-2

I also find it odd. When a girl allows herself to be beaten for sex, she needs help. When a guy has to beat a girl in order to get sex, he's either sick or doesn't matter, had sex. Right?
/r/MensRights31/03/13 10:27 AM
-4

You're jay walking citizen! (Why isn't it jess walking, hmmm? I guess only men commit a crime when they cross the road.)
/r/MensRights30/03/13 05:13 AM
18

That's it. Sarcasm is just a manifestation of male violence against womyn. You've lost your privilege, hand over your penis.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 05:12 AM
1

That's okay. As men we're all assumed to be paedophiles.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 05:10 AM
2

she is still the mother of his children So dig a bigger hole. I don't see the problem :P
/r/MensRights28/03/13 05:15 AM
1

It was pretty glorious, I've never seen anything like it.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 01:07 PM
1

True, but I see it as they're paying her money in order to be their leader, kind of like being the CEO in a publicly held feminist propaganda company.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 05:35 AM
5

But then they get a rich leader. As part of the patriarchy we must ensure that women do not have their own money.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 04:30 AM
2

Did you look at the Facebook feedback to SendGrid? There was so much it was ridiculous, and I'm of the belief that this is what changed their mind rather than the DDoS. A DDoS is silent but transitory. But thousands upon thousands of messages on your wall telling you you're a garbage company and they'll never do business with you - that scares new and old customers away.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 04:16 AM
6

I'm an ex-Curtin student, as was my girlfriend. I staunchly support mens rights but this isn't one of those times. In her time there my girlfriend had a constant line of sleaze-bags trying to worm their way into her pants, and publicly humiliating her when she refused, as did my ex-girlfriend before her (and she came home crying some days from the shitty things guys did, even outright just grabbing her breasts). Both looked foreign, which is where it all stemmed from. I'm glad women have a place…
/r/MensRights27/03/13 04:09 AM
1

They seem harder to get hold of. Their facebook page is a graveyard.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 04:00 AM
7

I'm glad it ended well for you and you got out. Never forget. I feel so sad there are women like this... and yet if we reported and tracked them all through an App Store app it would be seen as misogyny :-/
/r/MensRights27/03/13 03:56 AM
9

Your use of capitals has reached over 9000. Please report to the local de-maleing center for estrogen supplements and re-education.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 05:28 AM
1

I can only imagine what he daughter is going to grow up like. Millionaire mom, given tonnes of money by men growing up ...
/r/MensRights25/03/13 02:04 AM
3

I'm no expert on it but I'm not against subsidies because I agree with the thinking behind them (a traditional imbalance of power that excludes females and minorities that needs a quicker fix than just allowing the market to do it itself). But I'm open to studies to show it doesn't work, and it definitely needs to be monitored and stopped when integration has occurred, if not already. I'm not sure how I feel about the other part of subsidisation though - holding positions in universities or on c…
/r/MensRights22/03/13 03:38 PM
4

If you're a man you're 3x more likely to be murdered, not just being given harmless words over the internet.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 02:33 PM
1

No, no. You're meant to ask random women if they want rape. And then if they say yes, you're meant to yell, "Wrong answer!" It's about educating them constantly about the threat of rape and how to respond to it with a strong, "No thank you, I'm leaving now."
/r/MensRights21/03/13 02:29 AM
1

Did you see that comic a few days ago about the two wolves of good and bad inside everyone and the one that wins is the one you feed? What do you think about that? I'm concerned my trolling may eventually turn me into a bad/worse person.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 12:37 PM
2

That's very brave of you. How do you get to the end of the day without wanting to end all human life on Earth?
/r/MensRights19/03/13 12:13 PM
1

What the fuck did I just read?
/r/MensRights19/03/13 12:11 PM
2

"It's" = "its" in header. Collects too much personal information. Automated force sign-up to a bunch of emails. Focusing on fatherhood over gender equality. No thanks.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 05:06 AM
-1

Are you an Australian? Walking into Myer or David Jones for bonds are anything else generic they're $30+. CK or anything branded is $60-$80 each. I don't wear Target stuff. It's not snobbery but that's not the point. The point is women have tonnes of dedicated stores with high quality cheap clothes. Men have Target or get gouged. That screams fucked up to me. But it seems too many guys here want to play white knights and say this isn't sexism.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 01:10 PM
-7

I love how we have BEAUTIFUL stores here where women can walk in and find a massive range of good looking underwear at low prices, like 5 for $20. But if you're a man and want a single plain boxer shorts? $30. I mean unless you're willing to wear briefs from a plastic pack at Target.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 06:33 AM
29

Following you, grabbing onto your shirt, and not letting you go - those are the danger signs more than the accidental punch in the throat. Very lightly holding onto someone in an argument is one thing but forcefully restraining them and stopping them from going isn't. Bring the issue up with her so she knows for the next argument. But IME women who do this will find themselves unable to act appropriately in the heat of the moment (a lot like bad men will agree to be non-violent but then lash out…
/r/MensRights10/03/13 02:07 AM
13

Because a receptionist has to be pretty. If they're not pretty they get admin work. If they were a handsome guy they get sales. If they're an ugly guy they get support. Just telling it how it is :-/
/r/MensRights06/03/13 07:01 AM
1

The argument Anna and other human turds use back against this is, "That's irrelevant, because these are designed by men, in a male dominated industry, and illustrate male fantasies to be like this." Right!
/r/MensRights28/02/13 08:07 AM
25

I'm sorry you're offended by the little joy and comradeship we can find in unity with strangers online while our traditional methods of mate-ship such as mens clubs lay in ashes.
/r/MensRights23/02/13 08:31 AM
19

You're right, besides everyone knows only men have sexual urges or cheat in marriages.
/r/MensRights23/02/13 08:23 AM
14

That's what you get for being a white knight.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 06:56 AM
7

Wednesday 2AM for Western Australia. He's great, but I have no idea what to ask.
/r/MensRights17/02/13 12:45 AM
2

Are you criticising mine or the one I was replying to? I only got 2 people agreeing, it's not the end of the world.
/r/MensRights11/02/13 09:03 AM
10

And if not directly caused by a man, it's caused by the invisible hand that was set in motion by nameless, faceless men of the past and continued by the nameless, faceless men's club of today.
/r/MensRights11/02/13 05:20 AM
5

Agreed. A: This is wrong. B: No, you do the same thing. So instead of both sides being wrong, it's right when women do it and wrong when men do it. Now that's equality!
/r/MensRights11/02/13 02:32 AM
7

I always thought the gender-specific "men are competitive" line is bullshit; just another attempt to force people into a stereotype about what "being a man" is about and ridicule them if they don't fall in line. Whether it's some guys and sports, or women and clothes, people of both genders choose to be competitive in specific areas, and completely and utterly not give a fuck about other areas. I may want the attention of a woman but I have zero interest in competing with other guys for it.
/r/MensRights11/02/13 02:27 AM
3

It's aggressive to be a man. Your actual desires, thoughts, actions, or anything else are irrelevant.
/r/MensRights08/02/13 03:41 AM
0

Your friend is likely a skirt-chasing cunt. I knew it the moment he mentioned he was attending a seminar for women.
/r/MensRights07/02/13 05:02 AM
67

The universe owes you nothing. But always seems to give more to everyone else.
/r/MensRights06/02/13 05:59 AM
7

Then why are you friends?
/r/MensRights06/02/13 05:44 AM
8

No. It was before my generation and I graduated about 7 years ago. Our universities are all about the money. #Australia.
/r/MensRights06/02/13 04:45 AM
3

This shit is fucking disgusting.
/r/MensRights05/02/13 02:21 AM
12

I fear that would be the case. After all, female genital mutilation = horrific. Circumcision = totally okay.
/r/MensRights04/02/13 12:38 AM
2

I watched a few episodes of that on YouTube. It's compelling viewing. I don't understand how those people survive, day to day. They don't care about anyone but themselves and at the expense of everyone around them.
/r/MensRights04/02/13 12:37 AM
2

That's part of the reason I tell my girlfriend when we have a kid one day we're getting paternity tested. It's for both of our protection.
/r/MensRights04/02/13 12:36 AM
9

To be fair, it was men that did the penetrating. That's 99% of rape. Case closed.
/r/MensRights04/02/13 12:32 AM
5

I get it from an evolutionary biology viewpoint. What /MR has made me think about though is that it's also a parasitical relationship. By placing children above men and aligning themselves as the primary caregivers, women can exert a remarkable amount of privilege in society. Children are used to shut down arguments about rights, such as this one.
/r/MensRights04/02/13 12:31 AM
7

My father ran away before I was born, so I never knew him, but I did know and was on good terms with the guys my mum dated when I was growing up. We're not still in touch - they weren't interested after breaking up, and that's cool - but I certainly was interested in keeping it going. They were good guys and as a teenager (at the time) I was able to recognize that easily. So I don't understand how children can "decide" that since, suddenly, their pseudo-father that has been raising them the past…
/r/MensRights04/02/13 12:26 AM
2

She had a picture of her posing with over a hundred games. I imagine it's going to take a couple years to play through them.
/r/MensRights30/01/13 03:52 AM
2

If it wasn't wrong the first time it won't be wrong the second time. Seriously women can't hurt or murder men. So it's not wrong. Can't you see the logic in that?
/r/MensRights29/01/13 02:24 AM
1

You have a good point. But while it's okay to say some children are just born bad, it doesn't diminish the likely fact that in MOST cases the bad behavior came from the parents.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 07:47 AM
4

I think they were only "shocked" by the public attention. They know this stuff happens and are powerless to do anything about it.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 07:46 AM
4

Seriously, she's 11 and probably got caught up in the moment. The kid said she was a known bully and did this to many people. It wasn't being caught up in the moment.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 07:40 AM
10

She wouldn't have tried to murder him unless he did something to deserve it! Right?
/r/MensRights22/01/13 03:26 PM
4

Me too. If the men looked neutral like the women in the picture, it would at least cause people to stop and think, "They don't look like woman-beaters" (as if there is actually a stereotype) "so why are they there?"
/r/MensRights21/01/13 04:40 AM
7

If they put males in the picture people would presume they are there beating the women. It doesn't even enter into the popular mindset that men could ever possibly be victims - of anything.
/r/MensRights21/01/13 04:33 AM
33

Wait, would you? There are plenty of government departments that cater specifically to minorities. They exist because those minorities have problems dealing with the mainstream departments.
/r/MensRights21/01/13 04:31 AM
5

Gender inequality (towards men) doesn't exist in the social consciousness of the western world. You can't have a discussion when most people don't even acknowledge the problem exists. Pointing it out at every opportunity is the right thing to do IMHO.
/r/MensRights12/01/13 05:16 AM
4

"You are what you hate," etc are phrases oft turned by evil people to deflect discussion about what they're doing. Everyone in this thread hates that woman with good reason, but that does not make them abusers.
/r/MensRights12/01/13 05:13 AM
76

"Getting consent in a deceitful way is rape" This would make pretty much every man alive a rapist. "He told me he had a Lexus! Turns out he drove a Toyota!"
/r/MensRights04/01/13 06:14 AM
8

Christ. I once had a girlfriend throw a glass at my face and it missed and smashed against the wall. Now that I've seen that picture I consider myself extremely lucky. I've smashed glasses and plates before, too, out of depression and anger, so I understand it. But never aimed at someone. It can be devastating.
/r/MensRights29/12/12 10:02 AM
3

My housemate while at univesity had a room full of rotting KFC boxes, dishes, masurbation tissues, and who knows what else. He would bring nice girls home frequently for sex. Many women give as little a fuck as men. It sure was hard to look them in the eye though.
/r/MensRights29/12/12 03:11 AM
2

Ugh it's a hideous article that basically says, "No matter what happens to men, it's worse for women." I mean after all... Which, considering that quite a few males think nothing of spraying their seed around as indiscriminately as crop fertiliser, strikes one as a tad rich. Because we're all the same, right? It's not as if some women like to get pregnant, no matter to whom, and pop out a dozen babies. Oh wait ... However I'm not sure the title of this post really explains what she is saying, th…
/r/MensRights28/12/12 06:29 AM
0

Your story checks out.
/r/MensRights26/12/12 11:05 PM
-3

Re: this point. There's a lot of men who see fatherhood as merely sperm donation and do not own up to their responsibilities as men. That's because jizzing a load in a woman is not the same as consenting to the life-long responsibility of a child no matter what anyone redefines it as meaning. There are men who are clear about not wanting children up-front and women who bring the child to bear regardless. What does society imagine will happen, that the guy just turns around and says, "Oh okay I g…
/r/MensRights25/12/12 02:39 AM
2

Yep it's surely what I wished for my entire life growing up without ever seeing my dad. We really need our own sub-reddit. (To be fair, it sounds like he didn't give a fuck about me, and my mom only prevented me from contacting him because he'd have told me to fuck off and screwed me up even more. However with that said he clearly didn't want a child and she had it without his consent, so I can understand his feelings, though I hope to make contact with him some day just to find out what he's li…
/r/MensRights25/12/12 02:30 AM
1

Not to mention the source isn't very uhhh newsworthy.
/r/MensRights24/12/12 01:15 AM
5

Nobody who made, "Dude, where's my car?" could possibly have a glimmer of intelligence. Then again I could probably act pretty stupid for a couple million dollars.
/r/MensRights24/12/12 01:13 AM
2

Come to find out, women prefer to date the "stereotypical" guy instead. You're meeting/chasing the wrong women. I've never had a partner that didn't want to marry and settle down - as do I.
/r/MensRights24/12/12 01:12 AM
4

I advocate nothing. I pointed out what the rules do not allow and I asked what the point of morality is in a world that rewards her immorality. You didn't answer except to say your heart, children, house, money, and dignity, aren't important to you.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 12:07 PM
1

This is his girlfriend who is asking for advice. Didn't she say she was his ex-girlfriend?
/r/MensRights22/12/12 02:48 AM
1

I know not everyone will have a driver's license, but don't most, and don't they have that information on them already? Just wondering what you're talking about, as a point of cross-cultural information exchange.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 02:47 AM
1

Insane child worship.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 12:57 PM
17

Ok poop_dawg.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 12:48 PM
1

There has also been the opposite case where a husband has died and has sperm frozen, and the courts have refused to give the wife access to get pregnant. Both are fucked of course and there's no reason good laws can't cover both.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 12:46 PM
5

scowling and passive aggressiveness I tend to be like that with people who have bad breath. That way they won't come near me and I won't have to deal with it. Just saying, correlation isn't causation.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 05:12 AM
1

Stop there. After reading comments in the thread, while I sadly don't like where it's all going (troll land), what you've done is just committed an egregious error. You've fallen into a feminist/societal trap that any male who has something to say about women MUST therefore be unable to "get" them (for want of a better term, I'd say sleep with, but I think it's more than that). That's a really unfair comparison, and apt seeing as just today we had a huge thread on here about how women are slut s…
/r/MensRights20/12/12 05:09 AM
7

Circle-jerking aside, I'm open to reading all the cool stuff to be found in this thread about decreasing happiness in society which is genuinely interesting. However: reply with some braindead answer I don't think it's brain dead to question the assumption upon which your entire question relies on. That you'd limit discussion off the bat to that which will only support your argument doesn't sit right with me. I'm curious if what you've observed is an actual thing or your own bias. And if it does…
/r/MensRights20/12/12 04:48 AM
5

I love the comments calling for murder. RobotAnna: kill all males imo, what this woman is saying, but unironically
/r/MensRights20/12/12 04:39 AM
4

You don't need to persuade people. Just shame those who make cogent arguments until they stop talking. Then all you'll hear is the prattle of idiots.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 04:34 AM
1

Christ, where are the mods, can't they ban this person?
/r/MensRights20/12/12 04:33 AM
5

Australia is having a huge boner this year over any kind of comment put on the internet. We're on the brink of them passing laws that amount to censorship on a massive scale, though to be fair I think Britain beat us to it ages ago.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 06:33 AM
4

Correct, if women do it that's freedom from male sexual oppression. As long as the men keep their mouth shut. (Seriously what this guy did is pretty fucked in the head, though if I say "the women should have slept with a higher quality guy" then I'll be accused of victim blaming).
/r/MensRights19/12/12 06:30 AM
2

My mistake.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 04:10 AM
-1

http://sarahkendzior.com/2012/12/16/want-the-truth-behind-i-am-adam-lanzas-mother-read-her-blog/
/r/MensRights19/12/12 03:29 AM
0

Wait, do you think I'm being sarcastic about her having a blog like that? I'm serious. She's nuts. http://sarahkendzior.com/2012/12/16/want-the-truth-behind-i-am-adam-lanzas-mother-read-her-blog/
/r/MensRights19/12/12 03:28 AM
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Essentially I see the mom as the most culpable person in this case. I agree. She kept a blog you know, where she repeatedly talks about how she wishes she could murder her own children, and would if she heard a voice telling her to do it.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 01:09 AM
11

This is like a one hand clapping koan. If you follow suicide through to completion, are you a success or a failure?
/r/MensRights19/12/12 01:07 AM
24

most infanticides committed by women This is the elephant in the room. Just another sign of how it's totally fine to talk about anything a man does, and absolutely taboo to question whatever a woman does.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 01:06 AM
2

If you look through the thread, this happened with a male principal and a 13yo girl in 2009 and it was the same end-result, went through numerous courts and was not deemed a fourth amendment violation. Though I agree the public outrage would be different.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 11:05 AM
3

The problem isn't so much that women are given a free pass when it comes to sexual assault. IMHO the source of the problem is (as I learned early in my life, and had confirmed on here) that men have no rights to the bodies. If that can be changed, all kinds of shit will change, but there's sacrifices to be made. Like communal male shower rooms. I don't use them, but some other men think it's no big deal to get an eyeful of penis, and I don't think you can argue for private body rights when build…
/r/MensRights16/12/12 10:55 AM
5

Let alone what your wife would think :-/
/r/MensRights14/12/12 03:35 PM
4

What's left out of that is the millions of innocents that die in the process. /Hitler
/r/MensRights14/12/12 01:58 AM
1

My head just spun round and vomited. Good work.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 01:43 AM
3

The argument being given in another thread is male on male prison rape just proves the patriarchy, and that women rape other women in prison too and that too means prison rape doesn't count.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 12:24 PM
1

I was thinking about this today. How will we ever have gender equality in jobs that women just don't want, and from the perspective of its only fair to men that women take up 50% of the workforce. If we legislated it across the board we just couldn't fill the positions with quality applicants, or people would complain its socialist because we are forcing people to do work they don't want to. But if we don't do it that way then we end up with a gender segregated workforce no matter what. It seems…
/r/MensRights12/12/12 08:50 AM
1

If you want good reporting or data, I wouldn't go to AskMen, regardless of any slant.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 08:47 AM
1

They won't give a shit.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 08:45 AM
1

I would really like a safe place on reddit to talk about men's issues with like-minded open-eyed men. The things that affect us and we need advice on, but aren't related to men's rights as such.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 03:15 AM
1

They do want to get even. That's why whenever anything bad happens to a man, the auto-response is, "Well women have been dealing with that forever, so taste your own medicine." :-/
/r/MensRights11/12/12 11:18 PM
1

Some guys might be suicidal and want to stand up to the mob and tell them they're wrong. I'm not sure how effective it would be. But these people aren't going to become equalists themselves.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 11:17 PM
1

What's sad is that your argument will be discounted because, "Every argument on the internet eventually turns to a comparison with Hitler." So, any argument involving Nazism, no matter how apt, is doomed to fail :'(
/r/MensRights11/12/12 11:17 PM
1

Don't forget the children!
/r/MensRights11/12/12 11:15 PM
1

I don't buy your argument because it gets used to excuse everything. The most common place I see it is in atheism vs religion debates. Muslims? Oh the bad ones are just the radicals. Christians? Just the radicals. Catholic church pedophiles? Just the radicals. The problem is the "radicals" are supported by the rest of the institution whether knowingly or unwittingly. They couldn't operate alone.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 11:13 PM
3

Will turn you sterile.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 11:10 PM
2

I love sites that close comments the second they start feeling the tidal wave of, "WTF this shit is crazy!" Like that Anna girl on YT.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 11:09 PM
3

No, silly. ScriptNoBlock! Wait ...
/r/MensRights11/12/12 11:08 PM
11

It's not true unless it's in the feminist dictionary.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 11:36 AM
24

I remember an unprovoked attack when I was younger and in the city square. A gang smashed glasses in my face covering me in blood. I was pulled into a McDonalds and protected by an off-duty security guard for an hour or so until the police arrived. In the decade since I still pull fragments out from my face time to time. But phew now I realise I dodged a bullet. I'm sure glad they didn't whistle at me. HOW DEGRADING!
/r/MensRights11/12/12 11:32 AM
19

People HATE it when I murder them on the freeway.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 11:29 AM
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wat
/r/MensRights11/12/12 11:28 AM
6

You're right about feminists reframing issues. At best any discussion about men gets derailed into a "that's not gender oppression because we live in a patriarchy" argument. The figures are meaningless because the men killed themselves in a society built by other men. The females killed themselves because they lived under male oppression. Anything to the contrary is hate speech against women because it refutes we live in a patriarchy :-/ Personally I feel that argument doesn't make sense even if…
/r/MensRights11/12/12 07:00 AM
1

We're going to settle the alimony thing right now! Pay up, deadbeat! Visitation trial? That's a whole 'nother thing. Come back in 6 months.
/r/MensRights08/12/12 08:49 AM
1

But... but... the ads are primarily about men, and written by men, and put on TV networks run by men. Patriarchy!
/r/MensRights08/12/12 08:42 AM
1

Because when I want life/relationship advice, I turn to Katy Perry o__o
/r/MensRights08/12/12 08:39 AM
4

Agreed. Despite the current meme trend that porn is addictive, I think a lot of guys turn to it specifically because they aren't getting the kind of sex/attention they want in the bedroom. Taking out masturbation then leads you to have nothing vs having sex that is unsatisfying. What a wonderful solution, unless the goal is to end otherwise good relationships.
/r/MensRights08/12/12 08:37 AM
1

And that's assuming you get caught. WINK!
/r/MensRights08/12/12 12:59 AM
6

Australia has one of the most biased family courts in the world. Avoid. With that said I would love some resources on strategies to manage finances in relationships and marriages.
/r/MensRights08/12/12 12:56 AM
16

But if a woman initiates a divorce its because she must have been mentally abused and unhappy. Taste the power...
/r/MensRights08/12/12 12:54 AM
10

Knives are a tool of violence. Violence is man-made. This is a male issue rather than a gender oppression issue. Finally men know what it feels like after women have been knifed for decades! /justkidding
/r/MensRights07/12/12 03:24 PM
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it's just common sense to live your life in a way that minimizes risk. You have a point but I'd like to clarify that there are two ways of living your life and neither are wrong, it's just a choice. Some people live their life minimising risk, emphasising safety, but at the cost of excitement. That's me. Others enjoy living their lives on the edge, take lots of risks, and have a baller of a time in the process because that makes them happy - good for them. (And that basic preference has been sho…
/r/MensRights07/12/12 03:20 PM
3

Mostly referring to old people who think those labels have any meaning in the politics of today's world. And yeah that's exactly my feelings too.
/r/MensRights07/12/12 04:28 AM
2

Whenever people are talking and begin to use the words 'conservative', 'liberal', 'left/right-wing', I immediately turn off.
/r/MensRights07/12/12 03:02 AM
1

I couldn't agree with this more.
/r/MensRights06/12/12 07:01 AM
7

I adore Arya. She kicks ass.
/r/MensRights06/12/12 02:00 AM
1

So the picture is women co-opting a men's rights issue to draw attention to themselves? Say it aint so.
/r/MensRights06/12/12 01:59 AM
4

Perhaps this is because it is common for men find shame in seeking help in our culture? Would it be crazy to say that men don't seek help because they perceive there IS no help for men in our culture? And is there?
/r/MensRights05/12/12 12:47 AM
2

People in jail don't count as people, not even when they get out, as far as the community is concerned. Just saying.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 12:45 AM
1

I'm not sure how I feel about this. In a way it might be no less offensive than "he" or "she".
/r/MensRights05/12/12 12:44 AM
5

It's not just that. It's that violence only exists because of men. If a woman commits an act of violence it doesn't count as real violence because violence originates with men, and as we know anything men do to other men doesn't count because it's not "gender oppression" - it only proves violence originates with men and talking about it derails the discussion. o__o
/r/MensRights05/12/12 12:38 AM
7

I remember my friend calling me after his girlfriend had hit him over the head with a frying pan and he was hiding, locked in the bathroom. Sadly, just as with women, many men remain in abusive relationships to their own detriment (and in the past I was no better).
/r/MensRights05/12/12 12:36 AM
3

That is a really interesting thought experiment. If it was true then wouldn't gays be considered the same (or are they excluded because they aren't possible sexual partners in the first place?) Now that I think of it even gay expression of happiness is extremely limited and sanitised in TV/Movies. They're always shown in a group of women, cracking jokes and adding value... though it could just be that guys couldn't stomach watching the show without females to look at in every scene. I don't want…
/r/MensRights04/12/12 11:25 AM
1

Jest.
/r/MensRights04/12/12 06:34 AM
1

I find comments about pansies and (further up) nancies offensive. As if disagreeing with you doesn't make us tough enough and that to be men we have to meet your traditional stereotype. This is the very same bullshit MRA fights against. Tough men shouldn't care about male rape, right? Tough men shouldn't care about being slapped in the face by women, right? Tough men are too tough to bring up children and shouldn't have custody, right? Tough men should have no problem paying child support even i…
/r/MensRights04/12/12 03:57 AM
2

"Do you have a dog?" 'Does a wife count?'
/r/MensRights04/12/12 03:55 AM
1

So many Nancys Offensive.
/r/MensRights04/12/12 03:53 AM
1

Though this still plays into a non-sexist but still bullshit larger meme that "relationships suck because of the other gender", whichever gender that may be.
/r/MensRights04/12/12 03:53 AM
4

"Do you have a dog?" 'Does a wife count?' Anti-male agenda confirmed.
/r/MensRights04/12/12 03:51 AM
6

Fair question. I'm in Australia. I've lived with 4 women in relationships lasting a few years each. I don't regret any of them and they were all wonderful people, and things failed for different reasons each time (my current is the 4th and longest, we're extremely happy together). In the first few relationships I spent a lot of time going out, drinking with friends, doing things by myself (including video games), etc. I was never made to feel bad about it, or forced to throw things out or give a…
/r/MensRights04/12/12 03:00 AM
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Personally I found the advertisement distasteful. The problem here isn't caused by marriage/relationships, the women, the man, or the car itself. It's that these people never responsibly discussed how their finances are going to be divided: usually fairly with both contributing into a shared pool of funds for agreed major purchases, and individual savings for personal purchases. If the men had spent their own money on the car, there wouldn't be a problem. If he bought the car on credit this is a…
/r/MensRights04/12/12 02:09 AM
2

Did they screw up? They were attempting to prop up the failing economy by sending him to a privatized jail where they could all make money from his incarceration. He should have gone along with it like a good disposable citizen :-/ Now they're going to have to find another man to condemn.
/r/MensRights04/12/12 02:04 AM
4

I hate the "OMG marriage/relationships, commitment, ball and chain, pussy whipped, amirite!" bullshit. It's only wheeled out by the lowest possible intellectual class who make horrible life decisions about their partners, how they treat them, and how they allow themselves to be treated. Then, to avoid any kind of introspection or self improvement, they blame 'the system' and joke about it (because if they said it directly, they wouldn't be able to stand up to the challenge of, "So you think all …
/r/MensRights04/12/12 01:26 AM
0

Men are looked down upon for not being in a relationship. Then they're looked down upon for being in a relationship. By both men and women. Are women treated the same in this regard? I think single women are looked down upon (why aren't you married and having kids?) But I don't think women in relationships are looked down upon for it. If anything, they're seen to have "bagged" a man.
/r/MensRights04/12/12 01:24 AM
4

So they're soccer players.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 12:53 PM
8

Just another case of the male patriarchy in action! /Scuuuuum
/r/MensRights03/12/12 12:52 PM
4

His longer quote is different in context, but didn't he then go back and still let her off with nothing?
/r/MensRights03/12/12 03:09 AM
16

For a second there I thought you were talking about Al Bundy, and I couldn't help but imagine Bundy smiling his ass off at the compliment while making some dig at Peg.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 03:07 AM
1

I've never met a weak female in my life.
/r/MensRights01/12/12 02:04 PM
0

No I was there with my friend when the alleged assault occurred (we were buying bean bags). When we returned a month later, we were shopping for shower curtains and while doing so the manager ran up to us, with the police, and said they had me on video camera assaulting store staff, which never happened.
/r/MensRights01/12/12 02:17 AM
1

As an insider, why do you think he should step down?
/r/MensRights30/11/12 03:46 PM
14

Most stem from Family Court. Go walk through Perth city, you'll find a bunch of men walking around with boards strapped to their bodies more than willing to talk about how they're unable to see their children. I've read plenty of news articles in the paper about judges granting full custody to the mothers even in cases where they are mentally unbalanced, and justified it with, "Because as wrong as they are, dual custody would distress the woman and that would not be in the best interests of the …
/r/MensRights30/11/12 01:51 PM
10

I don't personally care if he's sexist or not. He's a greasy, lying piece of shit, and a terrible politician - which trumps all. Why the fuck is he even still the leader of that party when he's lost the last few elections and the public hates him? Sigh.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 01:06 PM
14

BUT the paper the city is based in had A VAGUELY ATTRACTIVE WHITE WOMAN get MURDERED and THE NATION WEPT FOR DAYS I was thinking "this sounds like Australia" but what you said just clinched it. I can't believe that a single murder like that had people crying in the streets and plastered all over TV and the front page of every newspaper for weeks. And yet men are murdered by women every day, who then get off free because they were under emotional stress at the time! It's fucking crazy. People her…
/r/MensRights30/11/12 01:06 PM
2

Weirdly, we have rail police on the trains, and no such thing on the busses.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 01:02 PM
1

Nope.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 12:56 PM
-1

I don't think grammar is to blame. It's part context, and part of a lack of vocal word stress.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 05:40 AM
-6

It's one thing to interpret it differently. It's another to have the author go to lengths to reasonably explain, "I meant it like this" only to be told no he didn't :-/
/r/MensRights30/11/12 05:28 AM
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Yes. But people are misinterpreting what I wrote on a mass scale to force an argument. Don't be mislead.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 05:25 AM
-1

Also Japan where owning cars is ridiculously expensive and almost everyone catches the train. Thanks for pointing this out, but I knew this, it's just that everyone seems to have taken my comment further than I meant it.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 05:20 AM
6

On a bus: Threatened? 10% of males, 10% of females. Assaulted? 7% of males, 2% of females. In a bus station at night: Threatened? 32% of males, 15% of females. Assaulted? 19% of males, 6% of females. On a train: Threatened? 0% of males, 8% of females. Assaulted? 0% of males, 3% of females. In a train station at night? Threatened? 2% of males, 7% of females. Assaulted? 4% of males, 1% of females. I know I for one enjoy my abundance in privilege of being assaulted on public transport, and apprecia…
/r/MensRights30/11/12 04:44 AM
6

He's lucky he didn't get attacked.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 03:06 AM
24

It's funny how tolerance only applies when the radicals want something.
/r/MensRights28/11/12 02:05 PM
21

If men were so great he should be glad he was penetrated...
/r/MensRights28/11/12 02:04 PM
10

Reminds me of Dead Poet's Society when one of the students goes nuts and draws on his face with lipstick (war paint). I did the same thing in a night club once trying to challenge myself to not care what people thought about me. I failed miserably. I imagine those kinds of things would be banned too because red is provocative to bulls :-/
/r/MensRights28/11/12 02:03 PM
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Men do the raping so ultimately it's a man's problem and the male victim side is not relevant to the discussion. All we need to agree on is that men are wrong, bad, rapists, and ruin shit for everyone. Am I doing it right?
/r/MensRights28/11/12 02:01 PM
3

Woop woop woop woop woo.
/r/MensRights28/11/12 01:58 PM
1

Worked for Chris Brown. Wait a minute ...
/r/MensRights28/11/12 08:59 AM
3

Well I was making a joke that women want control and yet can never seem to make decisions, like what they want to eat for dinner. But I don't actually believe it's something endemic only to women, it's really a gender neutral problem, hence the tongue in cheek smiley face.
/r/MensRights28/11/12 05:35 AM
14

I'm against helping them. I've seen too many a fight between a man and a woman where strangers step in and get hurt and then the women still go home with the abusive men. What's the point? They have the resources of society, the police, shelters, and every kind of support conceivable available to them and if they can't get their shit together long enough to use them and help themselves, then your help is pointless. I've also seen plenty of women hitting men. I've never seen a man hit back but th…
/r/MensRights28/11/12 05:25 AM
1

I fixed the car, she owes me, amirite Buck?
/r/MensRights28/11/12 05:23 AM
6

For your own protection you should also repeat loudly, "I AM NOT A RAPIST, I AM LEAVING THE AREA, I AM NOT RESISTING ARREST!" until she's a safe distance away. Tears work, too. Nobody wants to go anywhere near a man that is crying.
/r/MensRights28/11/12 05:23 AM
3

I always felt kilts were retro cool. I also own a couple of men's shirts that look like they are partly styled on the feminine/blouse side. So fashion-speaking I think there already exists a lot of leniency for special wear... though not on the extreme ends of the scale. But I think that finding these kinds of clothes in a completely dead, stagnant marketplace, is a much harder issue to deal with.
/r/MensRights28/11/12 05:03 AM
5

I want to feel pretty and attractive, but men's clothes do not have the same variety as women's clothes. clothing for my gender is basically a tee-shirt and jeans, right I'm hetero and I don't wear women's clothes because I don't find them stylish or well fitted. But I do lament your point that women have tremendous variety of cheap clothing, male clothing is always jeans and shirt or a suit and black shoes, all ridiculously expensive! It's extremely depressing to see women's clothing stores by …
/r/MensRights28/11/12 04:51 AM
0

Over everything except, "What do you want for dinner?" you mean :-)
/r/MensRights28/11/12 04:33 AM
5

Just like relationships, some people will have great ones, and many people will have terrible ones. Marriage is not bad, it's the people who make their own marriages shit that are bad. And I don't buy the societal bullshit of, "OMG marriage, ball & chain, commitment!" I find it rude, insulting and demeaning to couples who work hard and have invested a lot in each other trying to build a life together instead of just fucking around, treating people badly, then breaking up and crying about how ter…
/r/MensRights28/11/12 04:12 AM
1

I was going to rewatch this soon... are you serious? So sad :'(
/r/MensRights28/11/12 03:52 AM
0

It's funny because I watched Soylent Green on Monday night and there's a guy beating women without even blinking. I suspect this was common in movies from the 70s. It took less than 40 years for society and culture to completely reverse. But you'll rarely get men in support of other men who have been slapped, because they want to laugh about it and put down other men so they appear tough and because they think it makes them alpha and will attract women. I seriously think we need to change that a…
/r/MensRights28/11/12 03:46 AM
34

Oh man I fucking hate that, "Your problem is created by men so its irrelevant" line, as if we really live in a patriarchal society where men are all in charge and to blame for everything.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 11:40 AM
47

'If you're a woman who thinks there's a "War on Women", you probably deserve to be beaten by men.' -- Vice What a quality article. I can taste the balance and equality from here.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 01:47 AM
4

Yes I saw the original and thought it was funny. It was tongue in cheek, whereas the response seemed full of hatred - not just for men but for men's alleged attitudes towards women, too.
/r/MensRights24/11/12 02:41 AM
6

If men pay to import brides they are disgusting perverts. If women import husbands and are paid for it, they're "desperate and vulnerable." There's a couple who are making money off of the illegal scam, but it focuses entirely on the husband as the criminal. Little mention is made of his female partner in crime, nor of the women who are breaking the law and being paid for it. The sexist reporting makes me far more sick than the scam itself does.
/r/MensRights23/11/12 05:04 AM
19

This is the most fucked up video I've seen today. It portrays men as lying, sex-driven, anti-gay, commitment phobic shitheads. What the fuck? Who the fuck could have possibly thought this was a smart or funny idea?
/r/MensRights23/11/12 04:38 AM
6

I missed that. That's fucking weird. Shouldn't socialists be equal rights?!
/r/MensRights23/11/12 02:39 AM
6

If I walked down a street of men dressed like that I would literally have a higher opinion of men in general. Is that odd? I mean I live in Australia, land of board shorts and thongs. I wonder if we could stimulate a societal change in an entire gender by bringing back retro clothing styles from more empowered times.
/r/MensRights23/11/12 02:37 AM
5

It sounds like they also want the right to be sexually expressive but still hold the power to slut shame men (and other women they don't like?)
/r/MensRights23/11/12 02:36 AM
3

So much rage in one photo :-/
/r/MensRights23/11/12 02:34 AM
0

I doubt it if its anything like Australian defamation law. Once you (easily) prove that something bad was said, the burden of proof shifts to the defendant to prove it was true. And heresay etc doesn't count as proof, nor that you were just giving your opinion.
/r/MensRights23/11/12 12:22 AM
1

If she withheld sex then you could just go get it elsewhere (though see a lawyer first and make sure you're in a no-fault divorce state). That aside, did you never have that discussion before marriage about how many children both of you want, and where you would stop and draw the line? I've brought it up with each of my girlfriends and if they aren't comfortable with stopping at one like I am, then I know the relationship isn't long-term.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 07:38 AM
1

It's not that crazy. I knew a guy who secretly filmed every single girl he slept with because they were all ONS and with hundreds of them it was the only way he could possibly protect himself. I didn't know him that well. He seemed nice enough and I don't believe he lied to them (pump and dump). AFAIK it was purely for protection.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 06:09 AM
2

I'd like to know if the judge really did rule like this, or if the reporter just selectively quoted what they wanted to.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 06:05 AM
1

I'm fairly certain from what I've read of reddit that America doesn't really have anything like unfair dismissal laws the rest of the world enjoys. It's a dirty phrase over there, if you mention it, it means you're a communist hippy (whatever that means) and hate small business.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 06:04 AM
2

Hello fellow atheist! Hope to see you at our next meeting. I'll bring the BBQ sauce.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 05:52 AM
3

What? I'm anti-pump and dump because of philosophical reasons: they're liars that break hearts and fuck everything up for the next person. With that said, women can be as guilty of this as the next man, and plenty of one night stands are acknowledged as such and are perfectly okay as a contract between consenting adults. I hate the white knight crusade as much (or more) than anyone else. But let's not mix that in with excusing deviants.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 05:49 AM
3

I figure if I have to put up with my girlfriend being a downright cold-hearted bitch for a week I don't get this. None of my girlfriends have ever gone through the alleged PMS stuff that other women use to excuse their actions. They have all been 18-32, does PMS only kick in at a later stage, or is it an excuse? If one ever started doing that I would be out of there. I'm a man. Sometimes I want to kill things. But I'd never go off at my girlfriend just because I feel that way, and I expect to be…
/r/MensRights22/11/12 05:43 AM
2

Reminds me of whenever I say anything that doesn't agree with the popular societal consensus that children are precious and this justifies them having rights above and beyond everyone else around them while also shifting responsibility for parents actions off them and onto society as a whole. Apparently that makes me a child murderer. Literally. "If you do not stop for children getting off the bus up the street (despite it not being a law in your country) then you're murdering children to get to…
/r/MensRights22/11/12 05:38 AM
0

I think he was talking her up because (if I read correctly) he married her.
/r/MensRights21/11/12 11:04 AM
3

TIL other men cry too.
/r/MensRights21/11/12 06:23 AM
1

I can live with nasty looks from ignorant morons, but I couldn't live with knowing a child was hurt or worse because I did nothing. So... people are only important as children, before they are grown up and can hold dissenting views o__o
/r/MensRights21/11/12 06:17 AM
-1

Mate I fully agree with you. I'm glad you picked up on this too. Though I personally can't get over the stereotypical horrible British teeth.
/r/MensRights21/11/12 01:58 AM
11

Australian here. I was at the beach with my girlfriend a few weeks ago and we heard an obnoxious American-sounding woman talking to her friend in a similar way as reported in this article. "Why even buy me a drink if there's no attraction there in the first place. Last weekend a guy said to me he was a lawyer and had properties in (3 rich suburbs) and (something something something)..." But to be fair, what that guy wrote about probably doesn't describe all of the facts. Actually it seems to com…
/r/MensRights21/11/12 01:52 AM
5

Duh because then they can get pregnant and be supported indefinitely. It's really building a stronger society by keeping one half in slave labor and the other churning out crotch fruit. :-/
/r/MensRights20/11/12 06:32 AM
10

I'm a man and I care. While "real men" can get by ignoring what's going on, by saying nothing the next generation will be born into a world where anti-male hate speech is accepted prima facie, and conditioned by a society that does not tolerate contrary "misandric" viewpoints so lightly. I don't argue for myself. I argue for the half of the future human race.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 06:27 AM
22

Agreed, get a few of us here to proof-read and suggest changes first.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 06:15 AM
2

That's sad. Probably another reason we need male birth control.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 05:01 AM
10

Sounds like he needs to talk to a lawyer. I think with proper preparation they should be able to plan something that at least minimizes his losses and in accordance with the local law. Seems wrong to accept defeat without even investigating all his options, unless he has already done so (of course). With that said, and no offense intended, why did he marry and have kids with someone like that in the first place?
/r/MensRights20/11/12 04:45 AM
26

Well it's half female favoritism and the other half is child worship. So many comments on reddit agree the alleged "needs of the child" are above the rights of the father no matter what his financial position is. This then gets subverted so that whoever controls the child gets all the rights. We end up with guys paying more than they can afford to their ex-partner, for a child they're not even allowed to see because it would be "disruptive" to the primary caregiver's relationship. And yet even t…
/r/MensRights20/11/12 04:43 AM
-2

Because they don't give a fuck about anyone's rights. It's just a way for the rich men who own the company to white-knight and pander to women.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 02:53 AM
23

Replace Kanye with Chris Brown.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 12:46 AM
17

"Groped adult woman", they can't even get the fucking link correct.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 12:07 AM
5

I'm going to go out on a limb here and imagine Ice T said: "You're telling me a woman could overpower a man? Come on." And then gets the smack down.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 12:05 AM
11

Dat cap...
/r/MensRights20/11/12 12:03 AM
3

The problem with what you've said is that it is used as an excuse by anyone wanting to escape criticism that anyone standing up for themselves is being snarky and arrogant, launching an argument in the wrong way and in an inappropriate forum. "But but, no they aren't," you will say. To which I will reply arguing like that is snarky and arrogant. It happens in practically every citizen watching cop video ever recorded. Step 1. 'Stop recording.' Step 1a. "I am within my rights to film here, sir." …
/r/MensRights19/11/12 04:00 AM
24

To clarify, the two gay night clubs in my city are dual gay/lesbian so I think it's only the straight women that cause a problem. It would be a little hypocritical to stop any straight people from entering so I can understand it. I have been told by straight girls that they go there because, "It's a place I can go to have fun without being hit on", while also (with a straight face) talking about how hot the men there are, and complaining about not being bought drinks as often. It would be delici…
/r/MensRights19/11/12 01:48 AM
4

I've heard that women are welcome at gay men bars but if they start hitting on and groping men they get thrown out.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 01:21 AM
28

That's how I try to argue. Any justification where women need to be protected from men I turn it around that it's based on the assumption that women are weak and can't take care of themselves.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 01:20 AM
2

Curtin University, second most preferred of Western Australia. It's known for being money grubbing and many buildings have corporate sponsor logos. I've never been so relieved to be the hell out of there.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 03:34 AM
13

In a way I found it worse at University. In high school there were certain standards the governments force the school to adhere to. But universities appear to be able to do anything they want without recourse or regulation. I had a pregnant hormone crazy female teacher accuse me of trying to disrupt a class and almost had me expelled just a few months away from the end of my 3 year degree. Also the university here has random massive fees at the end of every year that you have to pay, even if you…
/r/MensRights16/11/12 01:14 AM
1

Yesterday I was driving to the supermarket with the radio on and my girlfriend in the passenger seat. An advertisement came on for lean pork, where a woman is talking to her friend saying, "Oh I feed it to my husband 3 times a week, and now he's [something like so attractive because it has made him thinner]." I thought this is a little odd, because not only does it imply that women are the ones who do the food shopping and cooking, but if we reversed roles, "I feed my girlfriend lean pork to kee…
/r/MensRights15/11/12 02:26 AM
0

True. Of course even without picking sides they could get another bed and that would be the end of it. Instead the male is considered a liar. Which is weird because in most Asian cultures I thought families typically trust the oldest son?
/r/MensRights14/11/12 10:49 AM
6

Why would you even stay in a relationship like that? Isn't it your own fault?
/r/MensRights14/11/12 06:25 AM
5

Is this oppression? It looks more like a contract they both have a right to refuse. I would not personally stay in this kind of relationship though. On the surface it doesn't appear to be happy for either party - and these issues will only be exacerbated as the relationship develops further.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 06:24 AM
2

Nice try, eHarmony.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 12:50 AM
1

You have to understand that women and women alone are forced to do things under peer pressure like dancing to songs that are degrading to them. They literally (!) don't have a choice to say no because then they'll be ridiculed by their friends. Of course as members of the male patriarchy we are immune from peer pressure or attacks arising from criticizing songs for any reason. Like I remember one time I commented to my girlfriend that "blow my whistle" was about blowjobs and was disgusting it wa…
/r/MensRights13/11/12 04:35 AM
3

I definitely feel filled with anxiety parking in tight spaces like that. It's ridiculous that they can acknowledge that but then claim that despite those anxious feelings, women deserve special spots because "on the whole, men are better at parking." So wait, what, which is it. Are we judging things based on feelings, facts, or still just plain old having a penis? I didn't get the memo.
/r/MensRights09/11/12 05:33 AM
1

I was making a joke, because Winona Ryder shoplifts more than 9 men could.
/r/MensRights09/11/12 03:00 AM
4

9 out of 10 shoplifters are male, but the 1 female shoplifter is Winona Ryder. Case closed. Edit: "Because Winona Ryder shoplifts more than 9 men could."
/r/MensRights09/11/12 02:13 AM
2

It was mother father child and puppy walking along the side of the street. The child is closer to the middle of the street than any of them, but the dog was running around their ankles yapping and jumping happily. She saw my car then kicked the dog so it flew up the kerb and onto the sidewalk area. I suspect that she thought the dog might run out into the road but it was nowhere near it. However all dogs here (by law) have to be on leashes anyway and it wasn't, and her child was far closer to my…
/r/MensRights09/11/12 01:07 AM
3

BBB is a scam.
/r/MensRights09/11/12 01:02 AM
5

I saw a woman kick her dog the other day as I was driving by. It was a cute little yappy thing and it was just being happy. I never wanted to stop my car, jump out, and beat someone to death so much in my life. I was extremely upset the next week or so about it. Actually this happened a month ago and I'm still upset whenever I think about it. But they were Muslim and I couldn't do anything like that because I'm white. Even jumping out to say something would have been called a hate crime and her …
/r/MensRights09/11/12 01:00 AM
2

Australia? We allow female-male murder all the time. Come stay a while, come stay FOREVER!
/r/MensRights09/11/12 12:59 AM
2

I'm unemotional as hell. Ditto. I liked to hear that because people are always accusing me of it as if it's a bad thing (despite being really affectionate privately, like in my relationship).
/r/MensRights09/11/12 12:50 AM
1

No offense to you, but your mom is a cunt. My mom liked abusive guys too, and had no problem with them beating up my older brothers or killing my kittens. I remember one fist fighting my brother in the kitchen one day and my mom threw herself into the middle to catch a punch, got knocked down and started crying and acting surprised and angry and threw my brother out of the house as if it was intentional. What the fuck? It was entirely her fault. My brother then packed a bag and disappeared compl…
/r/MensRights09/11/12 12:46 AM
5

Exactly. Maybe he should ask, "So can I slap her half as hard as she'd expected if she wasn't so sensitive about it?"
/r/MensRights09/11/12 12:39 AM
1

Sure, adults and children have different rights. But it seems all too often that "a child's rights comes first" is used to justify itself and as an end any discussion. I am totally against that as nobody ever has more inherent rights than others. Rights should only be granted after their legitimacy is proven. Try getting a lot of people to explain exactly how a child's life is worth more than an adult's life (for example), and they will turn red in the face making up garbage that is not relevant…
/r/MensRights07/11/12 03:07 PM
3

"Thank you, good sir, for catching my bullet!"
/r/MensRights07/11/12 12:22 PM
2

welfare of children must always come before the rights of parents I argued against this in this very subreddit today. I said "children rights should not be placed about adult rights", and I had some POS shoot me down saying that because he had children and children are defenseless, their rights must absolutely come before adults. Someone smartly replied saying to that that any time you put rights of one party above another then it will be misused down the line. But a lot of idiot parents don't f…
/r/MensRights07/11/12 04:34 AM
0

I meant I am not shocked that no one stopped this because the caliber of person that would go to a party to take drugs, get drunk and pass out, is the same kind of idiot who derives entertainment from the torture and humiliation of others. Nothing makes what happens right. However I learned in my youth that if you hang with this undesirable element you'll often get dragged into the undesirable things they get up to whether it's right or not. If you want personal safety then it comes at the cost …
/r/MensRights07/11/12 04:21 AM
3

SRS troll? There's a lot of trash-talk, proving of one's worth, showing dominance over others, etc. Nothing makes me feel more like a man than proving my own worth by trash talking other men to show dominance :-/ I'm more insulted by that than any claim a woman could make. And it's not even that I think it's untrue. I just don't want to be judged under the same stereotype as these common dickheads.
/r/MensRights07/11/12 02:21 AM
3

No I'm white. When I was attacked by a gang they were aboriginals with a white girl; and she had yelled that the white guy I was walking next to had raped her... and I was guilty of rape too by walking alongside him. The second incident was all white. White girl, white manager, white police (male and female officer - not surprisingly both presumed I was guilty), but then when we got escorted to the parking lot we were beaten by a huge kiwi male officer while the white male officer stood back and…
/r/MensRights07/11/12 01:42 AM
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People who go to that kind of drug/drinking to oblivion parties are usually pretty stupid.
/r/MensRights07/11/12 01:36 AM
2

She's a woman, she won't be getting any court time, because the judge will look at it and ask, "How could any man not want a woman to touch his penis?"
/r/MensRights07/11/12 01:35 AM
2

In order to minimize the risk yourself you should not do drugs and drink so much you pass out in front of others. The question is will the white-knights say I'm victim blaming when I say it to a guy, like they do when I say it to a woman?
/r/MensRights07/11/12 01:34 AM
7

"It would have taken me way longer than 20s." 'That's a confession!'
/r/MensRights07/11/12 12:47 AM
13

I've been accused of sexual assault of a minor within a K-Mart once (a month prior I was chatting to a girl working there who said she went to my university and took her number - nothing inappropriate). The police came and the manager said she had "just seen the CCTV footage of me assaulting her." I said to the police that is impossible (I was with my friend both times so he could back me up) and asked if we could all please go review this alleged footage before we continue on with it because it…
/r/MensRights06/11/12 11:59 PM
4

Children's rights do not automatically trump adult rights (let alone men's rights).
/r/MensRights06/11/12 11:54 PM
11

Edit: A final thought, I'm not going to risk going to jail to try to help a kid when a woman can come along and do it just fine. This is an argument that comes up over and over all over the internet. Half of us are like: I'm not putting myself at risk because the world is demonstrably stupid and can land me in jail. The other half are like: fuck you, you'll do what we tell you because "it's the right thing", also children's rights > anyone's rights. LOL. Don't worry dude, only half of the white …
/r/MensRights06/11/12 11:50 PM
10

She also drove the bus but got paid less for it.
/r/MensRights06/11/12 11:48 PM
-1

What later came out about a year into the relationship was that her last boyfriend (of 15 YEARS) had promised to marry her, and she accidentally got pregnant around the 10 year mark. He convinced her to abort it saying it just wasn't the right time yet, then spent the next 5 years still avoiding any responsibility and cheating on her on the side before finally dumping her. So she always felt horrible that she aborted because (in her mind, and as sick as it sounds) she really felt that if she had…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:17 PM
2

Amazingly we managed to garner at least two dozen dickheads who are against the idea because having sex apparently should fuck you over for 18 years because "that's what being a man is all about" and these guys are all about lovin' tough men :P
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:09 PM
2

Neither do women, if they swallow a pill.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:08 PM
7

Child to a single mom here. Father ran away before I was born, I've never met him, he sounds like a piece of garbage. But he did make one thing clear, that when my mom accidentally got pregnant, that I was not wanted. My mom decided to carry on and she shouldered the financial burden because (hilariously) laws in the 80s couldn't force men to submit to paternity tests. I suffered. She suffered. The shit-bag got off scot free. But I am also a man. And the idea that someone could possibly force me…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:07 PM
8

I will chose to abort Way better than that pre-sex conversation of, "By the way I know we're using condoms but if I accidentally get pregnant I'm keeping it."
/r/MensRights02/11/12 03:57 PM
0

"It" is not a person until it's born IMHO. And maybe even further than that like walking and talking.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 03:54 PM
3

Be a man and be responsible. Implying women aren't responsible. Privilege alert.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 03:53 PM
7

So brave.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 03:52 PM
3

Holy shit we'd be holding people responsible for their actions and denying them access to the science and medicine that keeps bailing them out from said responsibility. This will not do...
/r/MensRights02/11/12 03:52 PM
4

It's a fairly big psychological decision I think you mean it CAN be, tonnes of women are AOK with it. But yes it doesn't help that religious groups are so biased against it. As religion dies out over the next few decades, it will be interesting to see what happens to abortion figures.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 03:49 PM
3

Which means, taxpayers will be funding the irresponsibility of these men... which is an interesting moral proposition in itself. Interesting? I think you misspelt hypocritical. People love the idea that unwanted parents should be hunted down like dogs and forced to pay welfare that could have been avoided. But the moment it becomes a taxpayer problem the rage ensues. "I'm not supporting some piece of shit kid! I didn't ask for this!" Heelarious.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 03:48 PM
6

the second it is born Often before even that.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 03:46 PM
1

Better that 100 guilty men go free than 1 innocent man be hanged. Do you know why? Because when innocent men know their lives can be destroyed on a whim then there is nothing to gain from being innocent anymore, they turn bad and society falls apart.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 03:43 PM
5

Oh they understand it. They're just a child worshipper that thinks it's okay for people to have unwanted children and then demand ongoing access to men's wallets - as long as it's not theirs (through taxes).
/r/MensRights02/11/12 03:42 PM
6

Then don't have it. Problem solved. Crying about making stupid decisions that bring unwanted children to term doesn't mean people should then have rights to men's wallets for 18 years.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 03:40 PM
4

I don't know about the voting thing but men are a huge problem, a bigger barrier to equal rights than women IMHO. White knights are the bane of my existence. Most would relentlessly torment another completely normal bloke and call him small-penis faggot that needs to drink concrete and harden up, just on the off chance a woman might overhear and be impressed by how tough that is. It's pathetic.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 03:36 PM
11

And yet a man pay cheque is his, and he should get to make the decision what happens to it. End of story. No person should influence was decision he makes :-P
/r/MensRights02/11/12 03:34 PM
3

Face it, without men footing the next generation of taxpayers the whole system is done. I can hardly wait. We can't even imagine what impact this is going to have on the world as a whole when men have a choice not to have children and birth rates suddenly plummet.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 03:33 PM
1

I've always felt the same way.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 03:32 PM
5

I'm bald. I don't wear hats because then it looks like I'm trying to cover up that I'm bald. I don't ever have anyone calling me out on it except when I've tried to wear a hat. It's pretty fucked up.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 06:51 AM
3

Because only women and children are important in today's society. And despite how absolutely everything is geared towards them, we now need another white knight on TV reminding all men they are bad, evil, and worthless.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 06:46 AM
8

It's an ultimate shitty guy character invented from an amalgamation of bad characteristics in recent reddit posts. Do not be alarmed.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 06:01 AM
2

Correct. That's why there's only 3. Because what 14yo boy doesn't want to sleep with his psychotic 40yo teacher.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:03 AM
5

"Hi, don't I know you?" Well that guy actually turned out to be a criminal, but whatever :P
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:28 AM
5

This is completely correct. But I don't see it as a negative thing, just a part of the way the human mind/body works. You sleep together quickly because you have to but it's your combined good intentions and love that will make the resulting relationship work or not.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:26 AM
25

What I find hilarious is that the "creepy" guy is just the guy with few social skills. The "cool" guy is the one who is out to lie his way into the pants of any chick he can get his hands on, then leave her in tears and/or infected with an STI and accidentally pregnant, while posting her naked pictures on Facebook and boasting about how she kissed her parents goodnight after she gave him a blowjob. But that's way better than some shy guy asking you for the time to hide his obvious interest in yo…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:22 AM
2

Where's the facebook link so we can comment?
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:21 AM
1

Yep. 50 million people though still only 3% of the world population at the time. I read a whole book about it in university but by the end, even with access to lots of tissue samples stored in wax by the army from back then plus tissue from the teeth of buried bodies, they weren't able to find out much about it.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:12 AM
-3

The only time I've ever been accused of having man flu is by other men. Personally I think all of these things (including penis size) are shit that idiot men do to shame other idiot men, and women just pick up on it because they're copycats not intelligent enough to think up their own shit. Okay I'm just pandering with the last bit, my girlfriend is every bit as intelligent as me, but you get the picture.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:05 AM
1

Or when it's drowning in the bathtub because they're on a Farmville bender. Too dark?
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:03 AM
3

EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE IS JUST AS GOOD AS MAN LOGIC IF NOT BETTER.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:02 AM
3

So it's okay to stick it in their bodies but not look at it?
/r/MensRights02/11/12 01:44 AM
7

He should have been arrested for using a toilet with a woman in it. The level of privilege here is astounding.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 01:43 AM
4

I asked for help from a couple of "typical guys" who I thought were my bros. . and I got nothing. I know how that feels. I remember going through a really terrible breakup of a couple-year relationship. I reached out, and despite having dozens of "friends" from University, few gave a shit. And those "friends" weren't even the obviously unintelligent sexist, meat-head, or druggie types. A lot of people only like you when you're smiles and roses and they don't want to be there for the deep or dark…
/r/MensRights01/11/12 06:51 AM
3

I don't want to be the token asshole here but seeing as nobody else has asked the question, why did you get her pregnant when your relationship was so poor in the first place? :-/
/r/MensRights01/11/12 02:52 AM
7

Sadly, as much as I loathe Abbott and the entire party (both parties in fact), I'm likely to be voting for him in the next election. Nothing has made me madder more recently than redefining the word misogyny and referring to sexism in a country overrun with misandry.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 05:42 AM
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The only way I can explain it is if the girl is your partner/friend and you don't want to get split up. In that case it's not a big deal, we probably all do it with our body language if not so obviously holding our arms out. But if he didn't know her it would be creepy and irritating. You could just keep walking into the arm or cut her off. Or directly address the guy about why he's blocking your path and possibly begin an argument about inequality if he can't give you a good enough reason for h…
/r/MensRights31/10/12 05:20 AM
2

Explains why women can't think. drum beat I'll be here all night.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 02:49 AM
1

I think that's exactly the situation a lot of couples get into. I certainly do. I can go for long periods of time simply because I refuse to initiate, and then nothing happens.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 02:46 AM
3

She doesn't sound like a good woman. It's happened to me (all of us, surely) and almost every woman has been okay with it. One laughed and never saw me again but then I knew she wasn't quality long-term material anyway. By the way, in all seriousness, isn't all foreplay one-sided, unless the woman really likes giving oral (not many)? i.e. The man is expected to start and do everything, and if the woman doesn't get wet it's his fault, and if she doesn't orgasm it's his fault. It's one of the pro-…
/r/MensRights30/10/12 02:39 AM
3

I'm a guy. I don't mind initiating sex when single but in a long term relationship I really dislike having to initiate all the time. It makes me feel unwanted.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 02:37 AM
1

Please be double jeopardy, please be double jeopardy.
/r/MensRights28/10/12 03:30 PM
1

These dice are fucking rigged!!!!
/r/MensRights27/10/12 06:52 PM
5

but the few who do are really leaving an imprint I don't think it's as much leaving an imprint as other people blowing it way out of proportion. There could be 9 billion of us and 1 rapist, and it would still be used to generalise all men in an effort to control them :-/ Men don't think about sex constantly. So true. I personally think about food more. Maple syrup mini dutch pancakes > vagina.
/r/MensRights27/10/12 06:49 PM
1

That is some fucked up shit.
/r/MensRights27/10/12 06:47 PM
1

I get your point (I think) but governments already affect reproduction in a way by sponsoring it - with handouts, tax benefits, etc. I'd like to see those stopped. I'm really sick of seeing people have 4-5-6 fucking children. I'm all for couples having 2 children but tonnes of them take it way out of hand - some are just baby factories having children and passing them out for adoption before having the next one. It's pretty fucked. I think stopping state sponsorship (and making people responsibl…
/r/MensRights27/10/12 06:45 PM
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The problem is someone else cited the study and, aside from being a few decades old, had a sample size of a few thousand. Assuming the answers were given exactly as presented, what exact argument do we have except - questionnaires aren't a good way to gather information about people.
/r/MensRights27/10/12 06:38 PM
1

It's weird that we live in a world where it's not okay to say, "What she is wearing is provocative and may send the wrong impression to unbalanced people."
/r/MensRights27/10/12 06:36 PM
1

Reminds me of a reddit post yesterday. Abortions must be banned because rape children are God's will. But homosexuality is a choice and evil ;-)
/r/MensRights27/10/12 06:35 PM
4

"Hi, don't I know you from somewh..." GET HIM!
/r/MensRights27/10/12 06:34 PM
1

I remember this happening on a (fictional) TV show, Buffy the Vampire Slayer. A guy gets made smart with the knowledge of all law but to do it he has to sign a document releasing something from customs. Later the consequences of that are that it ends up killing his friend. All of his friends hate him and want to kill him for it (as did the viewers), and he said, "I knew it would hurt someone, I just didn't know who, I didn't think it would be one of us..." After seeing that, I'm a guy who wouldn…
/r/MensRights27/10/12 06:32 PM
15

Almost? Misoginist!
/r/MensRights26/10/12 11:04 AM
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I'm sorry please don't fire me I have a mortgage.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 11:03 AM
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Crimeception! Or maybe more like Minority Report because you're guilty before you even did anything because a bald woman in a milk bath said so.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 11:02 AM
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I believe I may have done this once. You're out shopping with your girlfriend and turn around to put your arm around her but she has already detached to investigate the shoe store and another woman is walking in her place. Awkward but hardly creepy. I've had women to the same thing thinking I was their husband.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 11:00 AM
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What I love is how the professor of "women and gender studies" (wait... what?) used it to jump to the conclusion of, "Oh they're trying to keep us out of voting and this is why we can't be president!" They must be retarded.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 06:43 AM
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Not necessarily. But when I find blonde women self-deprecating themselves with it, I don't laugh. I just think it's sad, it's people putting other people (and themselves, and family) down needlessly. Like a small penis joke or a ginger joke :-/ And they're inherently sexist because the gender reversal is not equal. Blonde woman? Dumb. Blonde man? Handsome. Red-haired woman? Fair and fiery. Red-haired man? Eunuch. Small vagina? Good. Small penis? Eunuch. As an amateur stand-up comedian (with some…
/r/MensRights26/10/12 02:20 AM
1

When the moderators let that women advertise her FemaleRights sub in here while claiming to be pro-MR but saying everything possibly against it and men in general... something is wrong. But we don't need you as a boss trying to add rules and decide what is legitimate or not. We don't need a new moderator either - if anything the moderators here need to be fired (except of course being reddit they'll never give up their control despite being completely subverted against us). I care about the joke…
/r/MensRights26/10/12 12:53 AM
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Thanks. That's totally true. I have seen this argument used by feminists when talking about how women have life so much harder, and that's what I was thinking of when deconstructing it. Though I also did mention that as an adult I haven't heard it spoken in real life (except maybe from my mother - haha!) So I don't have a bone to pick, but I find the general hypocrisy of different segments of society trying to get everyone to do things while also fighting against those things, interesting.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 04:25 AM
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Thanks for confirming. I painted my nails for a while, it's not a huge deal, though I find it funny that in a recent discussion on male privilege the female writer put down make-up specifically as something we have above women... which flies against the logic of both a) trying to get men to use more beauty/hygiene products, and b) berating them when they do. But it's anecdotal. In real life nobody says anything ;-)
/r/MensRights25/10/12 04:23 AM
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I don't remember doing such a thing. Sounds like you've generalized what I've said and then made a couple leaps in logic.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 04:21 AM
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I'm fairly sure there are plenty of private all-girls schools that don't allow long hair. Seriously. It's not genderist, it's just school stupidity - and there is nothing anyone can do about it because they're pretty much untouchable whether private or public.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 02:00 AM
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What they used to say in my school was, "If you want to have equal rules and long hair then you have to wear a skirt." I'm almost positive a boy then actually wore a skirt and there was a huge kerfuffle about it. Apparently it's not hygienic, somehow :-/
/r/MensRights25/10/12 01:58 AM
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Women: "You have it so easy, you don't have to put on make-up every day. Your grooming rituals are easy compared to us! And you look like shit, at least try some moisturizer!" ... Women: "Oh my God why did you paint your nails! That's not for men!" ... You know I was going to harp on about earrings or long hair, but in the adult world, I've never heard anyone complain about it. This seems to be something to do with coddling children IMHO. Then again I don't work for conformist suit-only business…
/r/MensRights25/10/12 01:58 AM
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This was the rule in school when I was in the 80s, too. That was 32 years ago. Nice to how far we've progressed as a society since then.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 01:55 AM
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And don't forget, being gay is wrong, but being lesbian is fantastic.
/r/MensRights24/10/12 01:59 AM
1

Having some guy inviting girls into his car A few decades ago this was probably totally fine.
/r/MensRights21/10/12 11:58 PM
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Because fuck boys. That's why. If we fail at life it's because we're fuck ups. If women fail at life it's because of inherent mistreatment.
/r/MensRights18/10/12 02:15 AM
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Yes, in the early 90s in grade 7 maths class. We had redhead twins (Emily & Fiona) and the teacher made a comment, "They would sell for a lot of money in some countries because of their red hair, you know, for sex." Then he laughed and continued the lesson. I don't remember how in the hell he brought it up, but he was a really great, relaxed guy who was there my entire primary school life so I think he was pretty cool and just slipped something by accident. We had all already gone through sex ed…
/r/MensRights15/10/12 06:38 AM
1

Whenever I see a reddit post endorsing drunks (photos of passed out people, or cartoons saying "I was out being fucking awesome" while drunk, etc), I make a point of leaving a comment that getting drunk is not cool and that people who think it is are fucked in the head. Rarely do I get people supporting my position. This fucking stupid idea that drunk = no responsibility = cool is very well entrenched in modern society; I don't know why and I don't know how to combat it. I'm fairly certain that …
/r/MensRights15/10/12 01:58 AM
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What I find typical about it is that it appears to mostly be guys bashing other guys.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 03:30 AM
3

Stop it, that hurts.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 01:56 AM
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Thanks for clarifying, it was a tough read.
/r/MensRights10/10/12 06:58 AM
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This is depressing. On the weekend I was visiting my mother and the recent news of the 4 children who were kidnapped by their mother and only now returned to the father a few years on, came on the TV. My mom went on about the poor mother and I argued they had been kidnapped and there's no way they could be allowed to stay in Australia. She then went on to complain that the man must have been rich and able to afford good lawyers. I said you don't need a good lawyer, she admits to kidnapping them,…
/r/MensRights10/10/12 02:52 AM
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I didn't read the whole thing, but it seems he won his money back and then they changed their mind and decided he can't have it because of a law that prevents retrospectively changes parenting payments? So now he can sue for fraud, however, basically he has lost the case thus far.
/r/MensRights10/10/12 01:48 AM
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how many guys actually care if someone sees there junk I care. Others care too but they don't talk about it because there's a very real social stigma against males who value body privacy. It's cool that you don't care, but by generalizing that "men don't care" we end up in a situation where society builds communal showers etc and forces the men who do care to lose their right to body privacy. Let's just have stalls. It's not that difficult.
/r/MensRights09/10/12 03:31 AM
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This is breathtakingly horrific. How the fuck did this not come up in the news as something fucking huge? And to fight some phantom threat of "bikers" we're apparently changing 400 years of justice? What the fuck?
/r/MensRights09/10/12 01:22 AM
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Sadly, this won't be an option for Australian's soon. Evidence?
/r/MensRights09/10/12 12:27 AM
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Here's the thing. The only women who are attracted to men who treat them like shit are women with extremely low self-esteem: and the kicker is that they make up a lot of young women. These are precisely the women who are also most likely to turn around and fuck your life up later on. You don't want a spineless and clingy coward for a wife, because the moment she starts having doubts she'll blame all of her personal issues on you. This is some really disgusting tripe you've written. It's complete…
/r/MensRights08/10/12 04:26 AM
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me, softly with a hint of condescension - "And what will happen, you'll be raped?" I've read about this in a book on depression, it's called mind-reading and it is generally wrong and makes the person who does it feel miserable. Also IMHO your comment wasn't fit for the workplace. As a thought experiment I turned it around to a guy refusing to lift something and being accused by a female of being worried of being raped by a co-worker when he bends down. Totally inappropriate. I just love how peo…
/r/MensRights08/10/12 03:42 AM
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Are you kidding me? I love my bedsheets. 600 thread count! (I got them on sale).
/r/MensRights06/10/12 01:01 PM
2

Sorry, Cop Land (1997).
/r/MensRights04/10/12 06:38 AM
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The mother used the children as an emotional weapon and dragged it on for years to make it worse. The father restored the status quo undoing her injustice. That is not the same as using them as an emotional weapon.
/r/MensRights04/10/12 04:16 AM
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I was conflicted until I really thought about it. She kidnapped the children and then dragged out the court case for years so she could use "they've been here for years" as an excuse for the law she broke not to be applied. If the judge allowed the children to stay it would legitimize this as an acceptable tactic. It is not. I'm not one for "sending a message" through court cases but this certainly sets a precedent that may prevent people from doing it in the future. I found the news reports of …
/r/MensRights04/10/12 04:08 AM
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This is so true, and what's ridiculous is how offensive it is. If you intervene it may be on the assumption that you're going to get affection for it. But if you made the contract clear up front and said, "I'm only going to save you if you give me sexual favors" you would be seen as utterly crazy. Society says, "You should just help her. Because you might get something." But you won't. And you can't ask for it. Biggest con ever. I'm not implying that women owe anything - they absolutely don't. I…
/r/MensRights04/10/12 01:28 AM
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Is it just me or does anything except a unisex bathroom scream "fucking crazy in today's day and age"?
/r/MensRights03/10/12 06:53 AM
3

I don't understand your American politics. I barely understand Australia's.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 03:06 AM
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It's 95 pages long.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 02:44 AM
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Naming Obama's country of origin as Kenya isn't politics. It's a conspiracy theory (or absurdism).
/r/MensRights03/10/12 02:42 AM
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The mining tax was a public relations disaster, I never could put my finger on whether it failed because of poor education, money from the mining companies, or actual public opinion. I do remember discussing it with my friend in a restaurant that it seemed like a good idea because minerals are public property with the disclaimer I wasn't sure how much was already taxed or what an appropriate tax was. Then a nice but big, bulky guy overheard came up and sat right next to us (!) and started tellin…
/r/MensRights02/10/12 11:48 PM
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I don't think they should have any problem with that, assuming they can verify you are buying it for use by yourself or a single other person they can consult with as to the side effects. If you think about it medicine is only for one person, hence them going through the side effects, etc. The only problem I personally see is if it seems that you might be buying it for 'anyone'.
/r/MensRights02/10/12 11:43 PM
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I really liked him to start off with, I thought he would be young blood and shake things up, he talked about blurring party lines for decision making and including citizens in those big conferences. But nothing came of it. And then he made that massive blunder with the school funding (I'm not so concerned about the solar panel fiasco because I don't think that's directly his fault). By the end he seemed to have really changed for the worse. Personally Keating was my favorite :-) But a lot of peo…
/r/MensRights02/10/12 05:20 AM
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Sounds reasonable.
/r/MensRights02/10/12 04:17 AM
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I'd like to give a knee-jerk affirmation of what you said, but when I think about it we've had a female Prime Minister (Julia Gillard) for a while now. She gets a lot of flack but doesn't appear to be any better or worse than any of our prior male PMs (though like anyone I have my favorites).
/r/MensRights02/10/12 03:57 AM
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Wow, this is a really complicated and interesting issue. I'll be interested to see how far free speech gets upheld when reporting in court cases. Even moreso because it crosses state boundaries. It's really different here in Australia - especially where minors are involved because they generally cannot be named. Our media does have an awful lot of gag orders given (and broken, too, reporters often go to jail for it on principle). I find the typical gag order excuse of protecting the judiciary an…
/r/MensRights02/10/12 03:54 AM
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There's nothing miserable in my posts. But nice try to discredit me (again, and again) to try to shift focus from your non-argument. I'm humbled to have such a good life offline that I can come online and argue against toxic, bile and hatred spewing people such as yourself, without feeling completely downtrodden that you exist at all without even thinking about what you are saying or who you are saying it about. But I guess it's not as lofty, loving, soft, feminine and giving as your standard of…
/r/MensRights02/10/12 03:19 AM
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Hey, I must be miserable because I'm sitting here challenging someone who wants to murder anyone who thinks differently because "mental illness is hereditary so we should kill all the children just to be sure". Nice. Yep, you really deserve to be the mod and figurehead for an FR movement. You're a shining piece of humanity. PS: I have a mentally ill person in my family. I think my 65yo mother would beat you to death with her bare hands for suggesting she should have aborted her son on the off ch…
/r/MensRights02/10/12 03:04 AM
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Quite frequently mental illness is hereditary. Nice sickening statement. I might pass that onto some mental illness awareness groups so they know the kind of hate speech you're spreading.
/r/MensRights02/10/12 02:42 AM
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We subsidize the cost of pills over here in Australia. It's a bit of an issue because we subsidize the older, cheaper pills, but not the newer ones (so the price can range from $30/3 months to $80/3 months). I think the issue is how much the drug companies profit from this kind of thing that they have to cost so much and be subsidized at all. All that money just flows offshore and it seems wrong. Condoms can't be subsidized because the legislation that covers this stuff is for medicines, you cou…
/r/MensRights02/10/12 02:33 AM
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How does the government limit birth control for women? I initially misread this as "the government should limit birth", which I totally agree with. When I see people popping out 4 or 5 kids per couple (and more, 10 and 12 bloody kids recently on the news), it makes me sick. But nobody can say anything because, "It's my right!" to keep shitting out children that they can't afford, that the world doesn't want, and that will grow up to impinge on the planet resources available to the 1-2 children t…
/r/MensRights02/10/12 02:17 AM
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Ah, where you called an MRA you don't know mentally ill, mind-read that he must be from a broken home, and that he should have been aborted? Yup, rights for all, except that guy. And you. See I can be mean with people I disagree with, too.
/r/MensRights02/10/12 02:13 AM
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I can't help but feel this post does not belong here. I hope the mods remove it.
/r/MensRights02/10/12 02:04 AM
1

I thought in America it was basically like this anyway; any kind of underage sex is statutory rape (male of the female). Which is funny because I thought that in teenagers female brains were more developed than male brains, so it's not like they were tricked by superior intellect or anything.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 04:18 AM
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If you self defend, that's fighting back. If you fight back, you're a monster. If you do nothing, you're a wimp. What's sad is that if you ever try to argue against that logic you'll hear the biggest uproar from men trying to uphold it, which just goes to show that men enjoy hating and denigrating other men even to their own detriment (and to the detriment of their children who will grow up in the same environment). This is why it's so fucking hard to find other male friends. Most guys appear to…
/r/MensRights28/09/12 02:23 AM
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Australia? Our family court is like that... no perjury... no need to go by case law or anything and the only qualification for judges is to be a sycophant :-/
/r/MensRights21/09/12 12:22 PM
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Wouldn't you prefer to just have a court order that mandates when you can and cannot have her, instead of having to negotiate it all the time and be on your ex's whims?
/r/MensRights21/09/12 04:27 AM
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The article not specifically mentioning men aside, I don't put my life in danger for strangers. My main duty is to myself and to my girlfriend and to get our lives in order, not try to be a superhero and get my ass kicked for the 9 complete strangers that did deserve whatever's happening to them and the 1 innocent stranger who doesn't.
/r/MensRights19/09/12 02:04 PM
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I don't think I understand, what's wrong with this? The organization challenged their existence following a complaint from a single mom who said her daughter was prevented from attending a father-daughter dance in the Cranston Public Schools district. So, she couldn't go to the ball because she doesn't have a father. And now she can. Other than that, fuck single moms who think it's okay to bring up a kid without a dad. I grew up like that and it was a life full of shit. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEAS…
/r/MensRights19/09/12 01:53 AM
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Saying that women shouldn't hit men should not be the kind of statement that makes someone squirm and feel uncomfortable! I bet she's expecting the moment she says, "Women shouldn't hit men", that the circus will begin with people twisting it to, "Men should hit women", "Women shouldn't defend themselves", or "Women are responsible for domestic violence." It happens in every religious argument.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 04:13 AM
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I was talking to my girlfriend about it (who doesn't hit me, and says flatly that women should not hit men), but I could not bring her around to the idea that a man hitting a woman is the same thing as a woman hitting a man. We both come from families where 'dad beats mom', so I didn't want to push the point too finely. What's important is that she recognizes it's wrong and doesn't do it. Still, it was interesting, and I could not find a way around it.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 04:10 AM
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I haven't seen TCP but I did see the first 20 minutes of Sucker Punch yesterday before turning it off. What a fucking piece of shit movie. What amazes me is that I saw some woman on YouTube denouncing it for being anti-feminist (along with nonsensical and shit), but all I could see is every single man in it is portrayed like a fucking rapist.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 04:04 AM
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This is in Australia, aliases generally are not asked for. Some places do ask if you have a criminal history though. But yeah, it would screw his references, unless he called them and explained the situation and told them his new name.
/r/MensRights17/09/12 02:43 AM
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This is a good point. I remember a few weeks ago during the Virgin fiasco moving the man away from children on the aeroplane in case he was a pedo, listening to women say, "Well just move, it's no big deal." Because not one of them has ever been treated like a pedo before just for existing. They don't and can't understand it until it happens to them. Goodness, for all women talk about domestic violence and rape (horrible, atrocious things), I don't think any woman can seriously go to a bar and a…
/r/MensRights15/09/12 05:27 AM
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I like how his Visa got cancelled and they repeatedly make him out to be a criminal and yet have zero evidence of any wrongdoing (except "He lost his Visa, so it must have been bad" - though apparently not bad enough to actually be charged with anything). I like how he's accused of brainwashing the children, like he's a super-villain. Quick question, if he was so evil then why the fuck did she marry him and have two of his babies? Oh that's not PC to ask because it's victim blaming? So sorry ...…
/r/MensRights14/09/12 02:38 PM
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I've always felt that alleged female multi-tasking is just not paying attention to any one thing. I can ignore multiple things at once too.
/r/MensRights14/09/12 12:57 AM
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Most of what you said might be true but I don't believe in this: It is for this same reason that Christians are fair game to be mocked or reviled and Muslims are not. These get mocked equally. Catholicism priests, mormon wives, and scientology aliens are all heavily mocked. The only Muslim thing that rarely gets mocked are Mohammed pictures and that's only because it literally gets people murdered.
/r/MensRights14/09/12 12:56 AM
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If a guy screams and smashes things, it's domestic abuse with threats of violence (and sometimes he eventually ends up murdered because she was trapped in a cycle and there was nothing she could do to leave). If women do it, it's an emotional outburst :-/ I'm so glad my girlfriend isn't like this at all. Some of my ex's were.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 01:19 PM
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Also, IIRC women aren't a minority Shhh. That's hate speech.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 04:14 AM
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Do absolutely nothing. I was in the same situation as you. In my last semester, last class before graduation, and I was threatened with expulsion for standing my ground. This is where you've invested 3 years worth of time and money to get a degree and they will have no problem kicking you out whatsoever because you're a man arguing with a woman. It was an online unit for me, so absolutely everything was logged. But you'd be amazed that when the teacher complained it went from (female) department…
/r/MensRights12/09/12 04:05 AM
2

Male studies? Best I can do is (fe)male studies. /PawnStars
/r/MensRights12/09/12 04:01 AM
2

Let me be the first to say: retartar.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 03:10 AM
2

I thought so. I didn't know there was a word for it. Here I was thinking I was the only one like this.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 02:20 AM
2

I may regret asking this, but what's a grower?
/r/MensRights12/09/12 01:56 AM
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Male expectation of privacy in regards to their body is non existant. This is so fucking true. Go into any public shower and you'll find women get walls and curtains, men don't. I was terrorized and abused throughout high school because I refused to use the public gym showers. I argued I have a right to body privacy and I also didn't want to see other naked guys. The school disagreed. I managed to stand my ground, was constantly in the principal's office, having my mom dragged in with counseling…
/r/MensRights12/09/12 01:52 AM
2

That's pretty fucked up. Sorry dude.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 01:41 AM
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At-will employment, you can't do shit.
/r/MensRights11/09/12 11:50 AM
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They don't need to justify it. They get it because they're entitled to it, whatever that means. As a more conclusive answer, they get it because society doesn't generally hold anyone accountable for their actions; doubly so if you're remotely famous, rich, or gave birth.
/r/MensRights11/09/12 08:28 AM
2

That's why I run an ad-blocker in Firefox. I refuse to assist these shitty websites in any way.
/r/MensRights11/09/12 06:49 AM
2

It's okay maybe she just married him for his sperm. But it's not being shallow because men aren't sexual objects.
/r/MensRights11/09/12 06:47 AM
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It's hyperbole. But I don't want to lobby for a purely literal use because I like commenting that I "survived" horrible bowel movements in the toilet.
/r/MensRights11/09/12 03:42 AM
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You are free to do what we tell you.
/r/MensRights11/09/12 03:39 AM
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We're not going to agree. I don't agree with your logic at all. I never said a relationship is a "replacement" for reproductive rights, I'm pro-rights. Let's do it. And meanwhile, let's not act as if women are evil along the way. Secondly it's not presumptuous or arrogant to say if you pick your partners poorly you're going to have a bad time. That's simple logic. Is it arrogant to say I can pick better than the next guy? I don't think so - the next guy (that I've seen) generally doesn't give a …
/r/MensRights10/09/12 11:37 PM
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Not every woman acts in unethical ways, and to presume so is no better than feminists who assume all men are cheaters, rapists, and pedo's. Where your argument also breaks down is abortions. By your reasoning there shouldn't be so many, but there are - women can and do make a choice that they aren't ready for a child. I pity the girls who have oopsie baby's in the office. But I don't date that kind of woman. Still, I'm pro-reproductive rights, because it's our right as a gender, and we all shoul…
/r/MensRights10/09/12 01:37 PM
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I'm all for men's reproductive rights, and I think the male pill will bring an awesome sea-change (and also be a massive destabilising force on society, for the better). But I still stand by what I said. While I'm sure there are plenty of women out there just trying to harvest man-jelly and make money, plenty of women exist who can tell the difference between right and wrong. We're both happy to have one baby down the line when we have the house, money, and job stability to support it. And she's…
/r/MensRights10/09/12 12:02 PM
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What we'll do is market it as a new initiative to stop the problematic "baby ward mix-ups" that occur all the time at hospitals all over the world, and also to "screen the children for debilitating illnesses that can be treated early". Making sure the father is real is just a side benefit.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 06:20 AM
2

I suspect that most of today's men will have made their bargain with women by the time things change. While I feel sorry for other guys, I have a great girlfriend and no complaints about the way we treat each other.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 06:18 AM
1

Me too. Society has a really sick cult-of-the-child thing going on. I think it comes not from feminists but marketing (toys, cereal, etc) and the media.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 06:17 AM
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Well, someone has to maintain their farms on Facebook while the children are drowning in the tub o_O
/r/MensRights10/09/12 06:15 AM
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I was raised by a single mother and let me tell you it's definitely not all fairy bread. All of us were really robbed of a father figure and everything they can teach. I am so insanely jealous of people who have even normal fathers (though, I also feel slightly lucky I didn't get a crazy one).
/r/MensRights10/09/12 06:11 AM
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Luckily I seem to only ever encounter/date the 10%. I told my girlfriend after we had gotten serious that one day when we have children I'll have them tested, just to set my mind at ease, and not because I don't trust her or anything. She was totally cool with it.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 06:10 AM
-1

I agree with you. I'm sick of freaks throwing cis around. I don't care about how people psychologically pigeonhole themselves and their preferences nor do I know what compels them to bring it up in every unrelated conversation except to aggravate us.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 04:02 AM
-1

This hurts my head. Also cis? No.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 04:01 AM
2

The problem was that she associated your disagreement as woman-hating. What a fucking retard (note: this is a gender-neutral retard. But her base question (on its own, not as part of the conversation) isn't necessarily that crazy to ask. Guys who have never had a girlfriend, especially older ones, appear to form a large proportion of the bitter woman-hating population.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 03:59 AM
3

I think your example is a little different; videos, pictures, and sound are different to a text-only book with a plain and unobtrusive cover. I could have any book like that at work without fear of recrimination. If a woman was watching porn at her desk, she would get similar treatment to a man and be told off IMHO.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 12:08 PM
0

Speechless.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 12:06 PM
1

I'd have called out for a woman to help. I'm not going to punish a lost child just because society hates what's in my pants. I will avoid putting myself in the dangerous situation of helping though.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 07:07 AM
8

Before anyone comes in with "thats a horrible thing to teach a young innocent girl" It's a shame you even had to start that sentence.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 07:04 AM
2

TIL if someone is terrified of you and screaming, "No! No!" you can defuse the public perception by screaming, "Zombies! Zombies!" I'm not the crusader reddit deserves, but I'm the one it needs :-D
/r/MensRights07/09/12 06:57 AM
1

Let's not victimize guys (or girls) who hate young children. You don't have to like young children in order to stop yourself from going around punching them in the face and stealing their lunch money.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 06:51 AM
1

We're boned.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 06:50 AM
7

Ah, the old, "Who the hell are you to tell me how to raise my daughter?" trick.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 06:49 AM
15

"SOMEONE PLEASE CALL THE POLICE. THIS DRUG ADDICT IS TRYING TO KIDNAP MY CHILD." She won't be able to prove her innocence and it would immediately cast her in a bad light.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 06:46 AM
4

Call the police and tell them a woman is approaching children and attempting to kidnap them.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 06:45 AM
10

empathy for women Women do not deserve more empathy than men. They require equal empathy. Nice anti-male bias. strength does make a difference when attacked with a weapon, if i am way stronger than you AND i have a knife, your gonna get stabbed, absurd statement on your part Whoever has the knife is going to stab. The person who is stronger is going to make no difference. That's the point, and why the strength or gender of whomever is wielding the knife is irrelevant. it is wrong to insinuate a …
/r/MensRights07/09/12 06:41 AM
2

Best typo ever.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 06:30 AM
1

we lose a piece of our own humanity No we don't, this is a failed metaphor. Humanity doesn't come in pieces, we don't have a set amount, we don't lose bits of it (forever!), and allowing horrible things in particular circumstances does not make people less human. "Humanity" is a make-believe concept and you're using it to emotionally manipulate people into supporting your personal beliefs. It's disgusting.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 06:26 AM
3

I remember pointing that out a couple times in the thread; then I rode the karma train to hell :-D You can't even reason with these common idiots. Even challenging, "If you think murder is okay in some cases for a woman, then you must approve of men doing the same thing" freaks people out. They absolutely don't want to think at all. "Herp derp, he said he wants men to murder people!" No... no I didn't.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 06:21 AM
9

do you understand that there is a difference between a man hitting a woman and a woman hitting a man? There isn't, unless you're sexist. One is sometimes stronger than the other. 1) Strength doesn't make a difference when attacked with a weapon. 2) Strength has nothing to do with the humility, embarrassment, or fear of being hit. Even if you completely missed the simple truth of these statements (just saying "no, men are stronger, it's different!" doesn't make it so), then you are committing a l…
/r/MensRights07/09/12 06:09 AM
1

I generally base my opinion on the weakening of the male role model in popular movies. The Hangover anyone? How about Get Him To the Greek (do you want to be the pathetic fat guy, or the piece of shit coked-up rock star who ruins the life of everyone around him?) How about Ryan Reynolds in any movie ever - begging in The Proposal or being a deadbeat in the Green Lantern and he literally requires alien super powers to learn how to keep a girl? Compare this to Cary Grant in The Fountainhead or Eri…
/r/MensRights07/09/12 01:58 AM
1

We need to bring back courtship. Well, I think Hollywood has been trying for the past few decades to make it seem as if courtship is still a reality (and failing miserably), and yet the vast majority of boys (don't) grow up and have no idea how the to converse with or attract a woman aside from getting drunk and cattle-calling. But, tongue in cheek, courtship does still exist in middle eastern countries and it's enforced with horrible things like honour killings and chaperones :-/
/r/MensRights06/09/12 09:50 AM
1

"On May 11, 1997, the state of Massachusetts, working with Interpol, succeeded in having a child support fugitive from its "most wanted" list, who was the subject of an outstanding warrant, deported from the Dominican Republic and arrested on arrival in the United States." The USA has similar agreements with: Australia, Austria, Bermuda, Canada (by province) Czech Republic, Fiji, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Ireland, Jamaica, Mexico, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Slovak Republic, South Afri…
/r/MensRights06/09/12 09:16 AM
1

What happens then? Can't you be arrested and extradited for trying to avoid these kind of payments? At the very least a ban on flying gets put on you by Interpol.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 01:21 AM
2

This is doubly true in Australia. There's no perjury in family court. You can legally lie as much as you want and it can't be punished.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 01:19 AM
1

These horrible situations will destroy someone temporarily, but I think you can come out the other side (though they'll probably never love/trust someone again) - quite different to these poor guys who have to pay so much for their rest of their life they can't even afford to survive themselves. I always thought there were limits, I mean if you're earning x amount they couldn't claim more than y%. Apparently not?
/r/MensRights06/09/12 01:15 AM
0

Favourite movie of all time.
/r/MensRights05/09/12 10:08 PM
1

That's sad. Now we just need a child to die because the ambulance is being held up by a crazy woman. Then the laws can change to outlaw men. Solved.
/r/MensRights03/09/12 02:23 AM
2

Modern fathers laugh at the stigma of the '50s father figure who only punishes and provides. Why do you say that stigma existed? I was born in the 80s without a father, so I don't know what it was like back then.
/r/MensRights02/09/12 11:02 AM
1

The use of the phrase "baby mama" is what I find the most offensive.
/r/MensRights01/09/12 04:58 AM
1

I agreed with everything and it sounded really nice up to: Guys who are interested in a serious relationship can probably do extremely well with dating a single mother. No. For a million reasons, no.
/r/MensRights31/08/12 12:09 PM
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Luckily I'm not interested in single mums in the slightest. I could never trust someone who was that bad a judge of character - to have a kid with someone who wasn't cut out for it and then things were (or he was) so fucked up he couldn't even stay to support the child. I feel sorry for widows though. That's my exception.
/r/MensRights31/08/12 12:07 PM
9

My mum is a single mother too. Her husband beat her, she ran away with the kids and no child support. Then she met my father, who did the same thing. The world was different in the 70s/80s. Were the guys pieces of shit? Yes. But does that make our respective mum's pariahs? Hell no. Mine was a terrible judge of character and also likely drove them away with her craziness. Then she kept pumping out babies with no way to support them. We all grew up with no fathers (and me particularly all alone) a…
/r/MensRights31/08/12 12:01 PM
15

Tough call but I think you're making more if it than it is. She could just be lonely / wanting a friend / casual sex and it's not like anyone can bust that out into the open, it has to be handled delicately with plausible deniability. There's nothing wrong with that. And she's in a huff about it? Well, don't take it too personally. It hurts anyone's ego to be turned down especially when all the cards aren't on the table (who doesn't think they're worthy of being a friend, for example?) Do guys w…
/r/MensRights31/08/12 11:44 AM
3

Both of you are awesome.
/r/MensRights31/08/12 04:47 AM
2

You hate someone. We all hate someone. Other people will always hate you for hating someone, and your job is to re-evaluate whether you've missed something and then either change or not give a fuck because it is literally impossible to please everyone. In this case the people who hate you for hating her are idiots. You look like you already know this so I don't think you really don't need our support on it and I'm not sure where else your intention lies. I don't think your post belongs in mens r…
/r/MensRights31/08/12 04:42 AM
3

Thanks for playing but I don't think that's a fit or empowering analogy. By having a kid young it's going to be healthier than what most of us long-term planners are going to have (due to sperm mutation rates). Secondly just because his mother is a POS doesn't mean she's going to mistreat the kid or that the kid is going to turn out bad. But overall your genes don't feel anything about it. It's the subconscious reproduction driving force that has to be satisfied, and it has been. From a psycholo…
/r/MensRights30/08/12 02:19 PM
1

Yeah well that's the gamble of reddit. The guys in here are generally much smarter and level-headed than me, and they've also seen and lived through shit that leads many to suicide. So, I really look up to them. And more than anything they regularly appear to stand up for women AND equality in the truest sense of the word, because they certainly put me in my place when I misstep ;-) But I haven't had any of these bad things happen to me, I'm 32, and I've been through a lot of really great relati…
/r/MensRights30/08/12 01:43 PM
-1

Anecdotal evidence. I'm sorry that my extensive experience doesn't stack up to the other lack of sources and inexperience in this thread ;-) Seriously this isn't the debating team or a political platform, it's a conversation. However, there is an entire industry What they teach is the exact opposite of the (truly misogynistic) Hollywood romance and insipid pandering to imagined female needs that's being imagined in this thread. Their existence only aids my argument.
/r/MensRights30/08/12 12:14 PM
-1

All of these things have something in common; the media portrays them as predominant and everyone follows along. It's heavily romanticised, fantasized and commercialised, but it's not the same as an honest biological response or belief. I'm successful with women, don't pander to these stereotypes, and have never had a woman stop me for not buying her something or asking her out, and deny sex or a relationship because of it. People don't talk about it, but it's one of those things where if you do…
/r/MensRights30/08/12 11:50 AM
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And women are JUST OKAY with using men. The problem with this and all of your other examples is that they sound like some internet fantasy. Every woman uses men? Not true. Men have to buy gifts? Not true. Men have to be awesome in bed? Not true. Men have to pay on dates? Not true. Women expect men to chase? Not true (men usually have to lead, but woman can, and a woman doesn't want to be chased as much as not left twiddling her thumbs). Women care about marriage and money on a scheduled timeline…
/r/MensRights30/08/12 10:50 AM
3

Bisexual female.
/r/MensRights30/08/12 10:41 AM
2

I think men generally have to make a choice in life about whether they are going to go into middle/old age playing the field and travelling as a lifelong bachelor, or rather saving and building a future family man life with one woman. It's a tough choice, and a lot of guys try to do both and fuck it up miserably with cheating, heartbreak, divorce, and then loneliness. Now understand that what has happened to you is horrible and fucked up. And it does not mean that from now on you can never settl…
/r/MensRights30/08/12 10:32 AM
2

I hope people like that exist. I may work with some because big faults are forgiven pretty easily (it's IT) but outside of work I sadly don't have any friends left who fit the bill. Thanks for the supportive words.
/r/MensRights30/08/12 10:10 AM
3

In Australia it used to be really cheap, walk into a doctors office, walk out. Recently the law has changed so they can't do that anymore and you have to go to hospital and go under anesthesia ($$$). Very sad.
/r/MensRights30/08/12 06:40 AM
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I say I'm wrong all the time with no shame. What's funny is that people rarely give a fuck when you do it. They still assume you're a piece of shit for being wrong in the first place, because they have blinders on where they imagine they are never wrong (and that's why they never say it).
/r/MensRights30/08/12 04:21 AM
2

Parents are often living in a fantasy world after decades of willfully ignoring the reality going on around them. We're not sure exactly why this happens but it does so I would say this is perfectly normal. Love my mum, but she constantly spouts crazy racist and anti-male shit for no reason whatsoever, and despite having mostly multicultural or male friends. But then again so does the rest of Australia. So it's not like I'm going to forsake her for it. When it comes to parents you'll discover th…
/r/MensRights30/08/12 04:18 AM
2

attempt to convey the correct information. If my explanation and apology aren't enough for you, then too bad. If you can't accept that simple, honest, and (in the end) unimportant misunderstandings happen from time to time then there's not much hope for the MRA movement at all.
/r/MensRights30/08/12 03:59 AM
4

Maybe she thought he'd get better, his penis would regrow, the stab wounds would heal, and he'd regenerate all the blood he'd lost. Maybe she's a huge believer in the power of prayer :P
/r/MensRights30/08/12 03:51 AM
3

Sorry this was completely unintentional and I explain it here: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/z0mqh/cut_off_a_penis_and_murder_a_man_3_years_parole/c60ssws
/r/MensRights30/08/12 03:50 AM
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Hi, please see http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/z0mqh/cut_off_a_penis_and_murder_a_man_3_years_parole/c60ssws
/r/MensRights30/08/12 03:46 AM
2

Hi. Thanks for pointing this out. I did read the original article which said 6 years, 3 years 9 months with parole. In an effort to be concise (NOT deceptive) I shortened it to "3 years with parole", or "3 years parole". It didn't even cross my mind that someone could interpret it differently to what I had, or not read the article and clear things up for themselves. But I also think most people interpreted it as I did or read the article, and that it doesn't take away that much from what happene…
/r/MensRights30/08/12 03:42 AM
1

Interesting, thanks.
/r/MensRights29/08/12 11:30 PM
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Also important to remember that a man can physiologically process twice as much alcohol as a woman can before feeling drunk.
/r/MensRights29/08/12 02:28 PM
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Oh, and have a female judge. Something about this seems seriously fucked up. I mean fuck abusive guys/boyfriends/husbands but this was an ex and appears pre-meditated because she tied him up for a few hours, stabbed him a bit, mutilated a bit, and then flushed the penis before the paramedics arrived and he died. If this was a man, murdering his ex-girlfriend, with a judge of either gender, what would happen? Well I found a couple similar ones and the answer is life in prison. http://www.perthnow…
/r/MensRights29/08/12 12:53 PM
3

I feel your pain. "If you don't think it's a big deal, let's cut off your foreskin right now." None would agree.
/r/MensRights28/08/12 11:28 AM
2

The problem is this shit only stretches the skin. It doesn't rebuild lost nerves, which is the whole point of having a foreskin. The sensation can never be replaced.
/r/MensRights28/08/12 11:27 AM
0

You should be angry. Your nerves were cut off and you will never orgasm with the level of sensation and enjoyment an uncircumcised man will feel. It used to be for medical reasons which aren't applicable anymore. It was also for religious reasons where people aren't religious anymore. It's a disfigurement that can't be undone. It's wrong. I am circumcised. I don't hate my mum for it because back then they thought / it was necessary (kinda like lead paint), and we all manage to survive. But now w…
/r/MensRights28/08/12 11:25 AM
2

You have no idea how slightly overweight I am.
/r/MensRights28/08/12 06:54 AM
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Read a news report yesterday about a woman getting off for murdering her baby because she was depressed. Meanwhile earlier in the year we had a couple men murdering their children and they want to jail. It seems that ANY excuse will do if you're a woman. NO excuse will do if you're a man.
/r/MensRights28/08/12 05:58 AM
1

I bought my girlfriend pepper spray because she's often scared by crazy guys on the bus. But she very rarely takes it with her because she forgets. It's pretty sad really.
/r/MensRights27/08/12 01:42 AM
4

So true, I can backup each of these comments. All of my girlfriends have gone onto the pill with no problem but it's never something they initiated themselves. What really fucked things up was that massive scare end of last year about that Yasmin pill, which my girlfriend was on, and was proven to have a higher risk of serious blood clots. Suddenly all of us men were allegedly assholes for letting our girlfriends risk their lives to take it just so we could enjoy sex (condoms + circumcised = dea…
/r/MensRights25/08/12 02:18 PM
3

Why is it that men have been the default for the blame of pregnancy? I think it goes back in time to when women were meant to be virgins for marriage. If you got her pregnant and you weren't married - well now she's your responsibility. And you know, does that sound that crazy? I mean if that was the rule? I think it probably used to make sense, and the problem now is it more that neither marriage nor virginity mean what they used to (and so it shouldn't apply anymore). Is it because the sperm h…
/r/MensRights25/08/12 02:14 PM
0

You've been reading Lord of the Flies again haven't you! Bad puppy!
/r/MensRights25/08/12 02:05 PM
5

I think the bullshit part was just that they didn't say anything when cutting in front. It's like pushing in front of someone at the supermarket for no reason. You have to say something, at least, "It's an emergency / I'm desperate". I don't think anyone is going to stop you at that point. I like to imagine if I was desperate and could only use the female one, I could say this and be granted safe passage.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 02:05 PM
2

Is that the swanky Karawara IGA you're referring to? I don't remember seeing toilets. But I do have some super tips: Always check your receipt as you're leaving. I get overcharged there ridiculously frequently and every time I'm there I see others looking confused and checking their receipts as well. Only here, never anywhere else, I can't help but think it's on purpose. Don't buy their Snack chocolate blocks right now. I got a really bad one during the week (each of the little blocks had deflat…
/r/MensRights25/08/12 01:55 PM
7

You don't need to look. Just saying, "Nice cock" is enough to freak them out.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 01:54 PM
3

I don't think they're criticising ObamaCare (cheap healthcare for all... though I personally don't think the way it's implemented is very good compared to proper public health through taxation), but that there is wiggle room for the insurance companies and they will end up fucking people over.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 08:15 AM
3

That's a great point. Though I'm not sure if they're even defending her, or just acting out a rote response they're trained to since childhood without any thought whatsoever. I'm not sure which is more scary.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 09:26 AM
1

I don't hold much of an opinion about it one way or another. I don't really care... it's not like I go looking for gay-haters so I can say, "Haha! You're the gay one! Because I read this study..." I just think it's stupid ;-)
/r/MensRights24/08/12 09:19 AM
1

I've heard of it, I may have watched an episode, not sure. Anyhow, I'm being down-voted for being helpful and citing the study. I didn't see that coming :-) Closet homosexuals?
/r/MensRights24/08/12 09:11 AM
1

It's nice to hear a smaller complaint that forms part of the bigger anti-male discrimination. If all I read on here was the hard stuff - families being torn apart and men's lives destroyed... it would be extremely depressing.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 03:24 AM
2

Exactly, rapists generally don't saunter up and start trying to make nice with you.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 03:23 AM
15

This video infuriates me. It's unbelievable that one slap equates to being beaten and kicked by two dozen guys.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 03:19 AM
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I don't want to Google the citation at work, but I've read the same thing. The experiment scored the subjects views on homosexuality and then made them watch MM, MF, FF pornography while measuring blood volume in the penis. A correlation was found between no and strong anti-gay beliefs vs no and increased penile blood volume during MM scenes, implying there's a closet homosexual tendency going on. Not proof that one is always the other, but a tendency (before anyone gets sensitive). That should …
/r/MensRights24/08/12 03:15 AM
1

Your factual-intelligence vs terrible-username quotient is through the roof, good sir.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 03:10 AM
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It's okay, self-confidence evolved a defense for when it's "really" raped.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 03:09 AM
8

I don't get it. Since when are people no longer allowed to "make a pass" at other people, whether male-male or male-female or (not mentioned in the story whatsoever) female-female? Isn't the problem in how respectfully the pass is made, or how courteously the refusal is taken? If you are disgusted/terrified that someone might find you interesting, and you can't just say No thanks, then you're gonna have a bad time! And what's with the sexism that only a male can overpower a female? I've been ove…
/r/MensRights24/08/12 03:07 AM
3

The university I went to would laugh at anything like this. Unless the government grants students any kind of power, there's nothing you can do. Don't like it? You won't graduate, and kiss goodbye to the tens of thousands you've already pumped into your course.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 01:19 AM
6

These fees are mandatory in Australia. The university can come up with any fee for any reason whatsoever, charge it, and if you don't pay you don't graduate. My girlfriend just got hit with a $300 campus fee for some new facilities, and she graduates in a couple months time. Freedom!
/r/MensRights24/08/12 01:16 AM
9

I hear women genuinely talking like that to their "friends". It's pretty low class. On the up side, maybe you can rename the faculty lounge The Men's Room now.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 01:14 AM
6

And sadly, I bet a lot of those articles will be written by both women AND men looking to profit from the made-up "debate". Not to mention the churches are going to have a field day (not that I give a fuck).
/r/MensRights22/08/12 10:58 AM
3

That's an interesting viewpoint. I hope it's not true, but if it is, then it's going to bring along some good change for society! I find the whole debate so weird. My girlfriend is on the pill and we trust her each other because we have a great long-term relationship. It's so mind-bending to hear people argue about it from the viewpoint that the opposite gender is evil. What the hell are they doing dating/fucking people they believe are evil?
/r/MensRights22/08/12 10:55 AM
10

I totally agree with you (though bread winner and defender of what; families/children maybe?) I just take offense at the larger scheme of, "You don't get the special notice and free goodies unless you have children" shit (which funnily enough affects both men and women). I mean you don't see, "free entry for singles day" nor "child-free couples day", and they even -sound- a little crazy, no? Why? Aren't they valid? But yeah, Perth Zoo, totally cool, father's day, focus on men in a positive way, …
/r/MensRights22/08/12 06:45 AM
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That's my city. And I get it's a fathers day thing. But I also see it as part of a larger, "You must have children" push, the same as every budget/tax time when families get a bunch of handouts. Almost as if men only have value in fathering/supporting children.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 06:08 AM
1

when discussing gender issues in ANY OF YOUR CLASSES Correct. You never heard your teachers utilize preferential treatment of girls over boys? Not that I can specifically remember. You were never taught that male circumcision / female circumcision It never came up in class. Maybe during sex. ed. male circumcision was brought up in reference to being done to a) prevent disease and b) religious reasons, but that was 20 years ago and information has changed. told about how unbelievably 'oppressed' …
/r/MensRights22/08/12 05:34 AM
1

I'm 32 and went through university, but don't remember being taught anything particularly feminist in nature? That's why I wanted some specific examples.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 05:15 AM
0

Question: How is school specifically to blame? I blame Hollywood (and also not having a father). It seems that in movies and TV, whenever anything goes wrong a male is to blame. That is what has educated everyone so that whenever you discuss something a woman has done wrong, it's judged on how much of a woman-hater you are as opposed to the merits of the topic. It's very sad. My girlfriend and I both make mistakes and admit them. No big deal. But the rest of the world just can't handle that conv…
/r/MensRights22/08/12 04:38 AM
1

So Assange did it, and so did a dozen guys with the OP... who are all these guys who fuck their partners while they're asleep? That some weird and creepy shit, like jacking off on your girlfriend's shorts while she's doing the dishes. I have to wonder what the fuck is going on in their heads. They can't wait a couple hours to get their rocks off (again), or they think the girl is actually going to say NO to sex if she was conscious? What the hell? I don't fuck women when they're asleep, rape or …
/r/MensRights21/08/12 12:45 AM
3

When my ex-girlfriend broke my rib and tortured me while threatening to kill herself if I broke up with her, I was lucky enough to have family and friends tell me she was crazy and I needed to leave her regardless, and didn't blame me or ask me what I had done to deserve it. Just saying. But I suppose if it happened in the street, yes, people would act differently. I surely don't intervene when a woman is beating up on a man ... (or actually usually even the other way around). Is that wrong?
/r/MensRights17/08/12 02:50 AM
2

He said she sank into a depression after years of emotional and verbal abuse by her partner, who cheated on her with at least one other woman. I love how people can stay in relationships like this (and have children!) and yet... "You can't judge! This doesn't say anything about her as a person! You don't know the whole story!"
/r/MensRights15/08/12 11:23 AM
2

Link for information about this?
/r/MensRights15/08/12 11:20 AM
1

This tops it as the most disgusting thing I read today. I wish I hadn't clicked it, seeing as their site is ad supported, and now I'm going to be pissed off all night :-/
/r/MensRights15/08/12 11:17 AM
1

Both cases are current. Both qantas and virgin have in the past few days moved men and stated it's to protect the children. A male nurse and fire fighter, no less.
/r/MensRights15/08/12 05:09 AM
1

We need to outlaw plane crashes.
/r/MensRights15/08/12 05:07 AM
3

Sorry I couldn't hear you, I was busy smashing something.
/r/MensRights11/08/12 12:31 AM
7

I can imagine putting my mother in that list. "What's the big deal? It's for the children! You can just sit somewhere else." People don't realise men have feelings too - especially angry ones when it comes to being told that we're inherently bad!
/r/MensRights10/08/12 10:10 AM
3

I'm a big kid myself, and when a kid makes faces at me in a store, I make them back. I wave to kids in cars. That's interesting. I hate children. Doesn't mean I'm about to molest or hurt them though.
/r/MensRights10/08/12 10:08 AM
13

Males. We can fly the plane. We just can't sit in it.
/r/MensRights10/08/12 05:34 AM
13

I sent a complaint form. I'd love to turn up on their doorstep, if they have one, but I guess if you protest against it that means you're a you-know-what. Actually, I hesitated to even put my name down. So you fill out the form, send it in, they accumulate the figures in a spreadsheet, which tells them only 100 out of 10 odd million men in the country complained and so it's not worth doing anything about it - that even if they lost all us complaining male customers (who are likely criminals) it …
/r/MensRights10/08/12 05:30 AM
-3

"Bro, work out bro." Thanks for confirming that loser mindset exists and is in action.
/r/seduction27/01/12 01:41 AM
0

I said if he was doing it for the right reasons to go ahead. But fuck anyone who proposes it for seduction aside from fatties losing weight. That's my problem with the advice. I'd say the same thing to people who tell you to wear a bright purple feather boa every night because they think it makes them look cool. It can be fun. Sure. But long-term the attitude is destructive. FYI I ride an exercise bike because I want to lose weight, because I'm overweight. So, I have no problem with exercise. I …
/r/seduction27/01/12 01:39 AM
-1

So you're saying that the only value you get out of something is what people notice and credit you for? Uhhh, no. But nice to read something into what I'm saying that I didn't say, and then try to attribute it to me. make himself a sexual player in the lives of attractive women looking for a mate LOL what fucking drugs are you on? A sexual player? He just needs to be able to get it up long enough to stick his dick in her. I bet you think some kind of acrobatics is necessary in order to keep a wo…
/r/seduction27/01/12 01:22 AM
-10

The guy is exercising, I said good on him, but it has nothing to do with his ability to attract or pickup a woman (unless he's so overweight it's affecting things). Regular exercise will lead to a higher metabolism Girl: "Damn boy, you got a higher metabolism! That's hot!" No. (manifest partly as a feeling of more energy) Girl: "Damn boy, you got some additional energy in you! That's hot!" No. more balanced brain chemistry Girl: "Damn boy, your brain chemistry is so fine. That's hot!" No. Like a…
/r/seduction27/01/12 12:39 AM
-4

Yes, all of that is within 4-7 hours. Make no mistake, that's the timeframe. After that? Game over. Tested hundreds of times to be true
/r/seduction26/01/12 11:41 PM
3

Sleeping with absolute strangers is something that just doesn't happen here. And how would you know? This is life we're talking about, it's the same pretty much everywhere (except maybe muslim countries, where it's also happening but people have to keep it secret or end up dying for it). It's not that I want to get physical quickly. You don't have a choice. That's how attraction and comfort are created. Without that, you have nothing. I just want to ask the person out, seal the deal, and maybe s…
/r/seduction26/01/12 11:21 PM
-2

move quicker? You best chance of sleeping with them is within 4-7 hours of meeting them. Plan everything around that - touching lightly from the get go, kissing in clubs in the first 30 minutes or first 60 in the street / cafe. Get them back to your house after a few hours. Those are the rules. You wanted them. I have slowly started an exercise routine Pointless unless you're super fat and need to lose weight for health reasons. Anyhow, good for you, something to talk about I guess. Is it a good…
/r/seduction26/01/12 10:54 PM
2

I believe I'm doing the right thing and that I'm worth it, and that finding the right girl is worth it too. And I was right. From the other stuff you said, I personally believe that the drive to feel good by getting a number or a date etc is not a bad thing. It only becomes bbad when you beat yourself up for feeling that way. I mean you might go home and feel sad, it's natural. But then addressing it on a meta level where you are angry you're sad? That's fucked and one of the failures created by…
/r/seduction26/01/12 12:14 PM
2

Im reframing the OPs expectation that these things require reframes. So in that way they are.
/r/seduction26/01/12 01:14 AM
0

I used to teach, too. Before it was cool.
/r/seduction25/01/12 12:52 PM
1

Herp derp, what do you expect? The woman to start squirting girl cum all over the club's floor at your every word, or only every sentence? If you think these kind of responses need to be exciting, I think you've missed the point entirely.
/r/seduction25/01/12 06:16 AM
8

Wow. Have you seen the reprint of new yorker comics, where the lines were rewritten to be literal representations of what's happening. Like there's a shark sitting on the sofa when a guy walks in, and the new caption says, "There's a shark in my living room." (Link: http://www.themonkeysyouordered.com/) I have a deadpan sense of humor, that's my style. So that's how I address these things. I don't consider them shit tests, they're most likely playful teasing or her brain filling in something to …
/r/seduction25/01/12 02:04 AM
1

And again, it may just appear common because you're doing it wrong even more often than before. Let me interject here and say, a guy who opens a lot of sets is great... I mean if you're learning or progressing. But it also usually indicates you're having no success, otherwise you'd be at home with them instead of standing in the club. Then again, maybe you can and are fucking a different girl every night and have to burn through 100 to get a random one who will accept you, in which case so be it…
/r/seduction25/01/12 01:26 AM
0

That's a commonly held belief. But I'd argue that girls who like you don't do it, and the rest do it because they hate you and/or your game is fundamentally flawed. I'd go even further and say most shit tests don't even exist... they are actually comments brought about by a complete failure to manage the set in the first place. That's why guys love talking about shit tests, they want ways to turn around sets they've completely killed... and that's also why the responses rarely work. I'll further…
/r/seduction24/01/12 09:40 PM
0

If you're doing things right, the girls you're talking to shouldn't be insulting you. If they're insulting you, you're doing it wrong. If they're complimenting you, then, "Thanks."
/r/seduction24/01/12 10:00 AM
1

The ebb and flow of the conversation (and story telling, when people use their hands a lot), moving around the club, taking pictures with your phone, will all naturally warrant removal of hands. Meanwhile there's an escalation process from back / upper arms / hands / legs / shoulders / face so they don't get skittish, and your hand isn't a lump of dead meat stuck to them and weighing them down. But the important thing is to have the touching there from the get go, to not be afraid to leave it th…
/r/seduction22/01/12 10:26 PM
3

You'll probably need someone experienced in your area to show you in real life. But the long and short of it is your hand should be on them, and stay on them for most of the time, from about 30s onwards. Anything else is doing it wrong.
/r/seduction22/01/12 02:45 AM
4

Just her. The night is over. Fuck being social.
/r/seduction22/01/12 02:31 AM
9

The problem is probably not that you speak too quickly, but the problem may be that enunciation is unclear, or, more likely ... Your speech is structured in such a way that others can't follow your train of thought (especially if you are assuming prior knowledge of the situation, subject, or participants, that doesn't exist outside of your head). i.e. Being a shit storyteller.
/r/seduction21/01/12 01:23 PM
-9

Be like that's cool, but can you quickly help me with this first? Then pull your dick out, and have her jerk you off onto her face. It's a reasonable compromise. I'm completely serious. Most girls, when comfortable and confronted with a dick knowing they are partially responsible for it, will go some way towards doing the right thing.
/r/seduction21/01/12 01:16 PM
48

By morning she was dead. What a twist!
/r/seduction21/01/12 01:14 PM
1

Wait, what? I agree it's harder for us to find a partner... then again not for me because I'm so experienced. But finding a fantastic partner (one worth keeping forever) is EXTREMELY hard. It's almost a lifetime effort for either side. As for women, I feel like I'm a pretty good guy, and every ex has made a step down after we've broken up. I feel sorry for them because nobody will treat them as good or be as faithful. I dont want to sound up myself because I dont have that much going for me, but…
/r/seduction15/01/12 02:35 AM
6

Hahaha, I read that as, "Reddit took 8 years of my life" :-D
/r/seduction14/01/12 11:09 AM
7

What if all these women are stealing souls To power some kind of giant machine? /Keanu
/r/seduction14/01/12 11:09 AM
3

What's sick is that any man or woman I can think of can tell me about at least one lost love of their life. In some cases it's their first proper relationship. In many cases it's a misguided look at the first person they had sex with. Though, in that case, I think they regret that they were so stupid as opposed to actually missing the guy who fucked them and did a runner. Basically, people bury shit. Girls do, for sure, but it's there. I'm not saying some girl will remember YOU as her lost one, …
/r/seduction14/01/12 11:08 AM
3

I've never had a relationship where I stayed even though red flags came up. That can be good or bad. Yes, lots of people stay in unhappy and unfulfilling relationships where they should leave. On the other hand, lots of people (PUAs, if I can speak from experience), leave a really good relationship because they've trained themselves to leave at the first sign of trouble instead of communicating, negotiating, and working through it. Finding another person is easy right? Until you leave them too, …
/r/seduction14/01/12 11:02 AM
2

If dancing with some girl is a once in a lifetime chance you need to get out more. With that said, your friends are shit-fucks. I would dump them immediately. You'll quickly discover there's a reason werewolves are considered badasses... being a lone wolf is awesome.
/r/seduction14/01/12 01:32 AM
1

I used peacocks purely in the literal sense, the argument I'm making is against standing out or being special. You seem to be going in the other direction. And now look, this is a checkout chick, she's working a shitty job dealing with the scum of the earth. Any guy that can even have e decent conversation with her is already exceptional. Nothing more is necessary. Dude when your car breaks down, do you realize it's just out of petrol, or do you then think you need new tyres, new fan belt, new p…
/r/seduction14/01/12 12:16 AM
3

Yes, though I think the bar is much lower than most guys will ever realise.
/r/seduction13/01/12 04:06 PM
4

She texted me btw. So what actually happened? She could well have texted you, "That's sweet but I have a boyfriend" because your ploy was so weak. But we won't know until you elaborate.
/r/seduction13/01/12 03:49 PM
-3

I replaced every approaching/escalating/less/more in that sentence in my mind with "raping". Nicely done.
/r/seduction13/01/12 03:48 PM
2

Agreed, IMHO weak hello's are fantastic.
/r/seduction13/01/12 03:47 PM
0

You are so lost, your realisation is so wrong, and you don't even know it. make a great lasting impression instead of my weak ass hellos, my uncombed hair, unflattering clothes and my failed ass attempts at small talk, and I could have had the balls to ask her out Yes you could have taken action (i.e. flirted and taken her number or around the corner for coffee... not exactly asking her out). No, your hair and clothes and allegedly failed small talk had nothing to do with it. Also, you are one g…
/r/seduction13/01/12 03:44 PM
6

On the off chance you're not retarded, if you're the driver look at the fucking road. If you're the passenger look over sometimes but not all the time, and the driver will often do the same. In a seduction scenario, if you're driving, your hand will usually go into the girl's lap, hair, etc, when stopped at lights, or on long stretches of road. If she's driving... likely the same thing.
/r/seduction13/01/12 02:54 PM
1

I think everyone has experienced that whole, "I've opened 4,000 sets but for some reason I just can't bring myself to do it anymore because I feel weird about it." That feeling is normal, there's no rationalising it away despite it being illogical. And prepare for a long period of hating yourself until you do it. Stupid brain. Knows what to do, doesn't do it, and blames you for it.
/r/seduction11/01/12 12:34 PM
10

It's too broad a question, boyfriend/ex are different, as are whether it comes up front or a couple hours in during comfort. Boyfriend up front - she is telling the truth and saving you the trouble, or is giving a knee jerk reaction (whether she likes you or not), both of which are telling you to fuck off. Boyfriend in comfort - either you've massively failed to escalate and show sexual interest so she's oblivious to your advances, or she likes you and wants to cheat but wants you to know so nei…
/r/seduction11/01/12 03:48 AM
2

I was banned there today for starting the main comment. Apparently anyone who enjoys Dexterish dark humour like a few million other Americans is twisted, and any idea that there might be nice guys in seddit is foolish... ? I even threw in an obligatory, "Yes many sedditors are fucked", but it didn't save me. It was really weird. It makes me wonder what other reddits I'm not aware of where weird stuff is happening.
/r/seduction09/01/12 11:39 PM
1

Shrug, I write lots of sappy stuff too because I adore my girlfriend. From my initial reading though it's overdone for a long distance relationship where they aren't even permitted to kiss by family.
/r/seduction09/01/12 11:36 PM
-1

Thanks, I think...
/r/seduction09/01/12 11:14 AM
98

Wow, that was fucked. But if you read it in a way where the guy is sarcastic and borderline psychotic/threatening to kill her post breakup, it's way more fun.
/r/seduction08/01/12 10:14 PM
5

Care. Lead. Talk the most. Prefix questions with short stories that give them an idea of what you're looking for. Be satisfied with extremely short answers and don't push for more, it'll come after you have spent more time together. Don't address or make jokes about silences, they'll come off as put-downs. Ignore them as if they didn't happen. In some cases they don't know what to say, in some cases they don't think they have anything important to say, and in other cases they are just afraid to …
/r/seduction08/01/12 02:43 PM
3

That paragraph makes it sound so easy For me, it is. It almost pains me to see others fuck it up, and in some cases fuck it up for years on end and still not get it. I just want to take over their body and show them how to do it, or alternately shoot them in the face so I don't have to see it anymore :-D In most cases it's a combo of a fucked up personality (starting off too weak "poor me", quickly changing into bullshit "fuck everyone, women are shit" fake alpha), and fucked up technique (not g…
/r/seduction08/01/12 02:17 PM
1

I know some guys like this. They don't really care about themselves or others. They know, they just don't care. They're a lost cause, like Christians - forget about them and take solace that there are people like us in the world who do care and have a brain.
/r/seduction08/01/12 12:58 PM
2

+1 that there's some good medicine out there to help manage it. Not sure about the side effects, and depending on your country and medical plan it can be quite expensive ($100 / month?). It's also not bullet proof, and you need prescriptions to get it.
/r/seduction08/01/12 12:55 PM
11

Do your research. Cold sores are extremely common (95% of the euro population). There are two strains. One is more likely to transmit to the genitals than the other, but both can. They can transmit whether visible in sores or not (5% chance of shedding), and if a girl has caked on her makeup you won't even see if if there was a sore. In most cases, the man or woman won't even know what they have. Genital herpes is less common. Blowjobs are fairly safe if you know she has no active sores (so you'…
/r/seduction08/01/12 12:54 PM
3

Yeah. We literally wasted years doing the same things over and over, sure we were doing it right but "missing something", only to discover everything about it was completely wrong. I hate seeing guys do that. It's just... a waste of time. If they could find and fix those problems faster, they could just get past this shit, get a girl they like, and focus on the rest of life's adventures. Yes, in the end every successful guy has his own method. Even the top guys, they all do it differently - even…
/r/seduction08/01/12 12:39 PM
2

People need to be super aware of what they're doing and not fall into the "I don't give a shit what others think" trap. Keep as best records as you can, I used to leave notes on my phone after each set, and type them in each night. "I'm alpha and don't give a shit" is some of the most detrimental advice I've seen. People stop taking responsibility for their actions, or how other people perceive and react to those actions, so how can they learn and improve to make the reactions better? Go out sol…
/r/seduction08/01/12 12:15 PM
3

This won't apply to the OP, who isn't even approaching, but in terms of the creeper comments ... having kept in touch with a few lairs over the past decade, most guys will never get out of the creeper phase :-) Doing it a lot helps, but eventually the guy will also need to either twig on what he's doing wrong (most never will), or run into someone who can tell them and actually listen and enact their advice (most never will). I have a feeling that if we had actual statistics, they would be very …
/r/seduction08/01/12 06:41 AM
11

Okay here's real world advice. My first for the new year. Don't dress up so much for the mall, it can look really out of place. I used to place a lot of importance on my clothes, the older and fatter I get the less I gave a shit about looking pimp and more about being comfortable and fitting my surroundings, and the more I realise it has no impact on how other people perceive you. Funny story about that. We hit the wrist band craze a good couple years before it hit my city, and so I started wear…
/r/seduction07/01/12 12:24 PM
32

No.
/r/seduction31/12/11 09:13 AM
2

If you hear this enough, you're doing it wrong.
/r/seduction26/12/11 06:27 AM
3

Most people don't find the line and just end up as dickheads. There are probably differences in whether something is deserved, and if it comes at a cost to other people (or as handoverthebanana said, a cost to the ego of others). What's cool is meeting someone who is very successful, like a pilot, and they don't let that shit go to their head at all because it's just a job to them. Maybe after all it's not so much about how you feel about yourself but how you make other people feel while doing i…
/r/seduction25/12/11 03:05 AM
6

Opener Light compliment (What you're doing today for grounding) Tease Story Qualify and sit her down or I'm thirsty (and walk her over to a cafe) Story, etc The rules were you insta-date within 5 minutes or get a number and call her later (if she is on her way to do something she can't avoid). Alternatively you can do it all standing up in the same spot for an hour and make out with her in the middle of the street... I sure have.
/r/seduction25/12/11 02:59 AM
4

Get there early. Some people say, "The club is dead!" to which I reply, "It only takes one set." Early on you can open 2 or 3 sets and they will be your bases for the night; it helps that you're the only interesting thing happening. If things go really well you can go back and stick with one girl to follow it through, maybe number closing the others in between, otherwise they are fall-backs/safeties. Most of the girls I like leave by around 11; they have stuff to do the next day and aren't there…
/r/seduction19/12/11 11:33 AM
2

Where can you find her? In the street, shopping mall, etc (though as someone in another comment said, there is usually 1 bar per city where this stuff is common - in Perth it's called the Elephant & Wheelbarrow). How do you open her? Sincere compliments work amazingly well, otherwise just as you would anyone else.
/r/seduction19/12/11 11:28 AM
2

•to a single girl? (I'm alone with her) Yes, if you're having something together. •to a group of girls? (1-3) •to a large group of girls? (4-10 - probably not so good, eh) No. •when I notice she is interested in me? •when I don't know whether she is interested in me? (to flip a switch) •when I notice she probably isn't interested in me? (to flip a switch) No. The only switch drinking flips, are girls who can't have sex without a drink to relieve themselves from the social pressure of being label…
/r/seduction18/12/11 12:36 PM
1

What, like some divine plan? No, you've misread. That my friends and family loved my ex but had lots of reservations about our long-term relationship potential; which they don't have for my current girlfriend. Sounds like you're in a bad place though; get well soon.
/r/seduction13/12/11 03:11 AM
4

Back in 2003... just kidding. Warning: rambling post ahead. I was going to start by saying there's two kinds of people in the world, those that can separate sex from relationships and those that can't (or don't for very long). But it's likely you're undergoing a cycle. I don't know if you've ever heard of Tony Robbins' 6 human needs, but one of them is variety and the other is (paradoxically) certainty/comfort. You have lots of sex, you want companionship. You get companionship, and a few months…
/r/seduction12/12/11 03:54 AM
21

Fuck credibility, the guys attitude and his post sucks and I'll say if it nobody else will.
/r/seduction29/11/11 08:07 AM
-1

I like how you put down the reader and any commenters by referring to them as "boys" while your head is shoved up your own ass so far with phrases like, "She wanted to kiss me so bad." There's something really sick about this. It's like you imagine you're writing about your delusions of grandeur to a bunch of people you imagine think you, or what you have to say, is important in any way. Is anyone else feeling this?
/r/seduction29/11/11 04:49 AM
30

Nope. Way to stick to the formula though. Step 1. State the obvious as an easy way out. "Be a conversationalist". Step 2. Differentiate your proposal as something new by acting as if it's different/better than everything else similar. "This isn't routines, story telling, DHVs, or weird social proof stuff." Step 3. Write a wall of text about how X is great, while side-stepping any problems in your theory. Things like: Game already includes conversation. FOAQRSC from 2003 onwards and on which M3 a…
/r/seduction29/11/11 04:37 AM
0

Again, not that I'm arguing it's wrong ... Why would culture get uncomfortable with girls enjoying sex? Because biology is giving people cues to feel that way so as to maximise each person's own reproductive success at the expense of others? ;-)
/r/seduction22/11/11 11:30 PM
0

I don't see how biology being the reason for calling people sluts makes any sense. Then you haven't read enough about biology / evolutionary psychology. Biology influences just about everything you do; from monogamy and polygamy, to some extent even who you are and are not attracted to. There are plenty of logical reasons to think biology is the cause of people being averse to sluttery; not the least of which is the amount of resources that go into raising children that may not be yours.
/r/seduction22/11/11 08:22 AM
1

ps Biology isn't the reason people call people sluts. Why do you say that? I mean, we're all really sex-positive already I'm not so sure about that ;-) If only reddit had polls, right? I want to see something dividing up who will and won't settle down with someone, and options for how many men they would prefer their other half to have slept with; 0-5, 6-10, 11-20, 21+, 40+, 100+? I have a feeling people will be selecting either not to settle down, or 0-5. What does that say? Not about people be…
/r/seduction22/11/11 05:02 AM
0

Is it? I don't know if the cultural bias is biologically based, or purely cultural; either way you're arguing about the way things should be rather than the way things are. Naturally this girl and anyone else can do whatever they like; however society will label you a slut whether you like it, or believe it, or not. Just saying, "I'm not a slut" is not sufficient to change the world around you.
/r/seduction22/11/11 02:28 AM
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Sleeping with someone when you first meet them doesn't make me a slut. It doesn't make me anything but satisfied ;) Well, technically doing it over and again is what makes you a slut, but if you're comfortable with the choices you make them nobody can hold the word over you in a negative way. Would love to spark discussion here on who makes for better long-term partners; "normal" girls or sluts/ex-sluts. Unfortunately I don't think many people are qualified to say, though many likely have a stro…
/r/seduction21/11/11 05:42 AM
5

Yeah, sounds extremely difficult.
/r/seduction21/11/11 05:39 AM
0

We were doing absolutely everything wrong possible. But the main one was that the girls liked us and we just weren't escalating. Once one of us started just making out on the spot and asking for numbers, all of us were able to do it immediately. And then we hit our next sticking point.
/r/seduction17/11/11 04:37 AM
8

Another mistake many younger guys make is that they get too involved in f-closing. Women are not sex objects. Women are funny, loving, interesting and make our lives worth living. Totally agreed. Lots forget that all the pain they go through learning the hard lessons they do, is stuff they're going to inflict on women later on through mismanagement of their relationships. It's very sad. I'm 31 and I learned this in my mid to late 20s. Trying to explain this to most of the guys here is like expla…
/r/seduction17/11/11 03:28 AM
1

tl;dr - accept the life you have
/r/seduction17/11/11 03:25 AM
-1

Nice intellectual wankery. I mean I slammed 5 days solely with the purpose of approaching women for 2-3 hours each night. We who founded the community did it for 7 days a week for 6 months with full-time jobs and driving 2 hours a night, and we weren't getting anywhere either (not having formulated everything that was necessary yet). Having experienced that it's hard to take what you've said seriously. You sound gutless. I just realized the solutions have always been here No it sounds like you i…
/r/seduction17/11/11 03:22 AM
3

No car, no money, no school, no nothing. You can still get laid with a life that is going nowhere, and many do that by accepting and being happy with their position. For you it's different, you probably feel guilty for having nothing and not doing anything with your life, and I'd pin that that's where you're coming unstuck. In fact, my 'wing' usually fucks all the female friends I've had for years. Stop going out / hanging out / talking with this guy. Full stop. You cannot progress with people l…
/r/seduction16/11/11 08:15 AM
1

how do you not get stuck in a conversation loop after you made your point By not expecting to reach a resolution or agreement.
/r/seduction16/11/11 02:06 AM
3

It's a bit hard to condense a decade of this into a post, but I'll try ramble a whole lot. The most horrific weapon in any relationship is purposeful silence. If things don't go your way, or she does something you don't like, by being silent you're letting her know something is wrong and holding back your approval and the threat of not loving her anymore. She will quickly learn to approach problems in the same way, until you both have a day-to-day role reversal of who is making the other person …
/r/seduction16/11/11 01:26 AM
6

Didn't talk for 3 weeks? The relationship is already over; even if you could salvage it it wouldn't last.
/r/seduction15/11/11 04:49 AM
8

I don't disagree with what you said about maintenance being necessary, it's meant to be included in what I said. I guess it didn't come through. Though whatever maintenance needs to be done in an LTR, it's not the kind or freeze-outs and emotional blackmailing the OP is proposing. That stuff will sow the seeds that will eventually destroy a relationship (and just to clarify, I've done it unwittingly myself plenty of times, though not recently because hopefully I've learned my lesson).
/r/seduction15/11/11 04:47 AM
33

in a short or LTR and you need to withdraw attention This is called passive aggression and it's a kind of emotional abuse. It's not the right thing to do in a proper, loving relationship with another human being. If you find yourself in this position either you need to get out of a bad relationship (you're meant to be a team, not playing stupid mind games to one-up and punish each other), or if you have a long history of such relationships to then note that you're the common factor and that love…
/r/seduction15/11/11 03:17 AM
1

I never had a problem (after getting my skills together a decade ago) meeting the exact kind of woman I want and being in love together, so it's hard to relate.
/r/seduction15/11/11 01:12 AM
2

Getting fit like a photoshop male model on Men's Magazine? Check. And yet 90% of guys on here seem to say it's a prerequisite to getting the girl you want, and once you have it girls will flock to you. LOL. Fucking idiots.
/r/seduction15/11/11 12:59 AM
1

Totally agreed, the argument is going along the lines of, "You're not meant to work, it's a relatively new concept. You're meant to go for what you want right now!" And it's that instant gratification that is also a new concept, only come about recently because of an affluent lifestyle built on the hard work of grandparents in a world who grew up in a time where the average life expectancy was 31. "Herp derp derp, carpe diem dude, sieze the day! You're settling dude! You're settling!" Sigh. Fuck…
/r/seduction15/11/11 12:57 AM
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Ahhh, seddit. "Dudr plz, you're getting downvoted because you're wrong and everyone hates you." Next day "Why am I getting downvoted? You're all fucking wrong and I'm fucking right! I'll swear more to make my argument seem passionate and alpha, until others agree with it!"
/r/seduction15/11/11 12:48 AM
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Alan Watts is a mastermind. However what he said has been horribly bent and twisted with the analogy of "Quit your job, go to college (if you can afford it), and bang hot chicks" followed by "Start your own company on how to bang hot chicks." The be-all and end-all of life is not sticking your dick in a random chick each night to impress the mouth-breathers around you.
/r/seduction15/11/11 12:41 AM
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I agree, however as much as you want to listen to what people say now, the path they followed to get where they are now is often the opposite of what they now believe in. "Yeah I don't talk about that stuff now..." but they did all the way through their career. What does that tell you/ The reason I mention that is a guy who is new to the game is going to be bringing it up constantly because it takes over his life, becomes his interest, and gives him his first sense of pride and accomplishment in…
/r/seduction11/11/11 12:43 AM
1

Yep, true again! I'm so proud of so many of you today.
/r/seduction08/11/11 09:52 AM
3

I love you for saying what I wanted to say so I didn't have to.
/r/seduction08/11/11 09:52 AM
2

Thanks for remembering me. I go for emotional connection because that's what I like and it works for me. But I'm not sure it's necessary; one of my wings in particular had very little emotional value (or anything other value); and while I can't say with certainty because I haven't sat with him while he was in deep comfort with a girl, I don't think he could build much of an emotional connection. This gave him problems opening or holding a lot of very nice girls (he tended to aggravate them), but…
/r/seduction07/11/11 12:30 AM
1

What the OP is referring to is not personality as you've described it, but something else. Read what I quoted. I don't think what you've described are necessarily attractive qualities, either.
/r/seduction06/11/11 02:10 PM
2

For some reason, this whole pickup/seduction thing seems like one, big mask or disguise Some people don't know who they are until they have found out who they aren't. designed to conceal your actual personality and to give women a wrong impression of yourself. This presumes that women decide who they will sleep with based on personality. It's far more complicated than that. What you've described doesn't work/exist. That aside, some people will try to use game to conceal their personality and may…
/r/seduction05/11/11 04:27 PM
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In 2004 I remember hanging out with Xaneus from RSD in Sydney. I was already having success of my own, but I wanted to know if I was doing things efficiently, so I asked him: How do you sexualise the interaction? He came closer, looked in my eyes while talking, and dropping his voice making it a little quieter and slower, saying "This is how." Super gay, LOL - that's the kind of in-joke fun we had back then. I don't talk about relationships or us having sex in set (there might be spur of the mom…
/r/seduction05/11/11 12:38 PM
0

I hate these. But if they work for you, great.
/r/seduction04/11/11 01:40 AM
0

Puppet #1: Hey kids, this is how to make the most of your crack-cocaine addiction. Puppet #2: But I don't think crack-cocaine is the way to solve problems. Puppet #1: Relax, crack-cocaine is just another tool in the toolbox. You don't have to use it. You can just try it and see how it works for you. Puppet #2: But if I didn't use crack-cocaine in the first place, I wouldn't have to have tips and tricks on how to make the most of it. Puppet #1: Crack-cocaine is natural. It's the drug of this gene…
/r/seduction03/11/11 01:38 AM
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I'm sure many of you guys who have been with a lot of women think I'm retarded or something. Do you guys think my views are stupid? Yes.
/r/seduction02/11/11 03:21 AM
2

That's why I like the lifestyle model. I think the lifestyle model is part of the problem; it's discontent with where you are and what you have. Not that I'd like to stop anyone for improving, but if it's in any way related to meeting women then it's the same cycle.
/r/seduction01/11/11 11:27 PM
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Here's some more examples of celebrities with wives I'm not interested in. Dwayne Johnson (The Rock)'s wife http://ballerwives.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/dwaysplit1.jpg That's actually a flattering photo compared to others. they've since broken up, but were together for a long time). Or Pierce Brosnan's wife, remember this guy was voted the best looking man in the world for quite a few years: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-CCVMczhtumw/TYnNLicaVxI/AAAAAAAAACY/5fCNCpaOocM/s1600/Pierce%2BBrosnan%2Ba…
/r/seduction01/11/11 08:59 AM
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Some guys value personality over (or in addition to). Some won't, but I've seen a strong pattern in myself to happily trade a little bit of looks for a lot more personality (which leads to a better relationship). That said, my girlfriend is hot to me; but she's not a supermodel nor would I trade her for one. That's what I'm getting at.
/r/seduction01/11/11 08:56 AM
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but I feel like there's a piece I'm still missing whereas one or a combination of these switches on her attraction for you - which was not already there physically It sounds like you think flicking these switches will together emulate physical attraction. As a thought experiment, flip it around and realise looks meets a set of attraction conditions (e.g. strength, confidence, leadership) by assumption; whereas you can meet those exact same conditions by conversation and demonstration. Do you thi…
/r/seduction01/11/11 08:55 AM
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Agreed. Chicks have headphones in because they're bored/lonely. Walk up to any and start talking, and they'll quickly take the headphones out.
/r/seduction01/11/11 07:14 AM
1

that was my favorite part of this weekend Did Halloween candy shopping have anything to do with it? :-D
/r/seduction01/11/11 12:22 AM
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Focus has been turned mostly to self improvement and feeling good about your life (which leads to being an awesome person and naturally having women become interested and attracted to you) Definitely a competing model, and one that I don't think will work. But seeing as I can't prove it, already being a success in the original model, the only way would be to have teach-a-thons comparing the success of the two methods on fresh students. How awesome would that be? I wonder if I'd get my ass kicked…
/r/seduction01/11/11 12:21 AM
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People don't come here looking for relationship/girlfriend advice. What the fuck does that mean? What I've said has everything to do with meeting AND keeping a girl. I perfectly justified everything I said including that you have to go out to meet people. That doesn't mean you have to ramp up exciting different shit every fucking day to keep a girl interested - which is exactly what some people on this thread are suggesting. If you're arguing people are just here to fuck, then I call bullshit. H…
/r/seduction31/10/11 11:29 AM
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This guy has chosen to improve and enjoy his life. That's fine. If you want to do the same things, then do it, but I have to point out that it implies two things that I think are incorrect: that state is important, and that you have to be on some massive life changing kick in order to be successful with women. Cue a handful of replies saying, "It's not required but it makes things easier." Well, so does brushing your teeth, and that's a 60s investment you can do with your eyes closed in the morn…
/r/seduction31/10/11 05:13 AM
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Prove it. I've been in a series of great relationships for the past decade. Have you?
/r/seduction31/10/11 04:43 AM
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Well, thanks for replying but you didn't win me over to your point of view, if anything I feel more against it than even before. It more or less means not a boring person that does the same repetitive shit all the time. What is boring and repetitive to you, is an enjoyable and relaxing experience curated over years of trial and error, to someone else. I work at the same place, shop at the same supermarkets, go to the same places on the weekends, visit my mum, play some board games, watch a few v…
/r/seduction31/10/11 04:36 AM
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Your post seems to have two points: 1 - Break free from your boring lives and find the joy that exists. I'll agree with this in the part that means, "You can do a lot more than you think you can" e.g. going up and talking to strangers, going for a kiss, etc. If you need to do something to get the girl, but think you can't - this can be empowering. (LOL I typo'd that as emplowering, which sounds hilarious - plowing through, empowering, emplowering[tm]!) 2 - These women want to have fun and are lo…
/r/seduction31/10/11 03:02 AM
1

I don't suppose you got it online? Been looking for one of those shirts for a while ;-)
/r/seduction29/10/11 12:42 AM
1

Have you been able to track down a hawaii shirt like the one in the movie?
/r/seduction28/10/11 12:35 PM
1

nice guy Girls do go home with skilled good guys. abuse it Gross. to help you I'm a success already. Kids, don't be like this guy. You don't have to be/act stupid to get girls.
/r/seduction28/10/11 01:04 AM
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I was a little shocked - wouldn't you try a little harder with someone you're interested in? Leading question. Do any of you here enjoy a 'challenge'/a 'chase', or are you more interested in getting results, fast? False dichotomy.
/r/seduction27/10/11 05:11 AM
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i also think you read into minor details too much, there really isnt anything to this story Agreed. The OP also seems up himself in a way that turns my stomach. I look good, have a glorious smile that I abuse to its' fullest extent and got a pretty good game. "I have a lot of worthless things that will fade in time." Enjoy.
/r/seduction27/10/11 03:30 AM
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I guess it's time for some real weight lifting again. So you've realised the gym does nothing for you, but somehow increasing the intensity of it is really going to help? Please. Same advice as I give to everyone else here - the gym isn't going to solve any of your non-health related problems. On the plus side I do not have any AA at all. Probably because you've gone through a traumatic experience. Most of us who do, are changed by it. Steve Jobs did an awesome speech on this, but it got ignored…
/r/seduction23/10/11 01:46 PM
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bag her Disgraceful.
/r/seduction23/10/11 01:40 PM
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Too bad I didn't get any pussy though. Lovely. Can't imagine why not.
/r/seduction22/10/11 08:35 AM
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You should have said what you wanted to, regardless of whether it would be seen as supplication or not; because nothing is bad unless you're all needy and stuck up about it (in the same way as choosing NOT to say it can be needy and stuck up). If you want to know some funny zingers you could come back with though; I would imagine you could have taught her how to stand up straight and push her chest out more like a model, done some faux cat walking, "flashing lights, flashing lights, you're a tig…
/r/seduction20/10/11 01:07 PM
1

Surprisingly good advice. Finally, someone else who is 31 and gets it.
/r/seduction19/10/11 02:49 AM
1

Good work!
/r/seduction19/10/11 01:39 AM
1

I like plots so I don't do multi-player; I do however get sucked into the single player campaigns of various blockbuster games, pouring a lot of time into it until it's complete (1-2 weeks). So, it doesn't distract from normal life for long. That hasn't changed; I finished Dragon Age 1+2 earlier in the year and got sucked in just as much as when I was younger. But, I'm in a long-term relationship now. Back when I was just starting; sure we didn't do anything EXCEPT go out. We'd go to work/school…
/r/seduction19/10/11 01:36 AM
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LOL. Another guy with no advice who can only spew the standard, "Go to the gym" line, followed by such nice things as, "fuck all the sluts." Yup, no misogyny and bitterness here, this guy must be a real success with the ladies. Move along people.
/r/seduction18/10/11 12:27 AM
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destroyers Destroyers are lame. Is it very unattractive? It might be, if they notice. Hey I think you're cute, and I'd really like to get your number. LOL. Just go straight for the number? That's pretty bad. Good luck with that. I'm not looking for a girlfriend Nope. Anyhow, they're bringing up the boyfriend because your combined opener/closer sucks. It's way too soon. They don't know you. Imagine some bum coming up on the street asking for your number knowing he wants to have butt sex with you.…
/r/seduction15/10/11 05:14 AM
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I was going to say, "It is transferable. Don't let people on here tell you that looks matter." Then I imagined that guy from the WoW episode of South Park with a huge beer gut. Or some dick head rocking a rat tail and a flame shirt. It's transferable to guys who look normal. It's a pretty easy standard to meet for most people.
/r/seduction15/10/11 01:15 AM
2

"See those saber tooth tiger fangs? This is how they would have bitten off your clothes." Then maul her.
/r/seduction13/10/11 07:51 AM
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Your advice is pretty much the same as you'd get from any dummies guide on how to date girls book. Does that mean it's false? Well, let's see. Realistically what you say means absolutely f' all It's complicated. Talking is a huge part of it, but you shouldn't be afraid to try to say lots of things and see what works and what doesn't. It is most certainly not unimportant. Stop being boring. The best sets I've ever done are by being boring on purpose. Change your mentality to life. Improve yoursel…
/r/seduction13/10/11 05:02 AM
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"The worst they can say is no." I got a slap and a small scar under my chin (from the ring) once. That's what you get for opening with an inquiry as to an estimate of the quantity of cock meat that one may or may not be able to fit into their oral cavity. Totally worth it.
/r/seduction13/10/11 04:49 AM
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but get-shitfaced-every-night drinking I gave that up in my early 20s, too (pre-seduction). I realised I didn't want to be like the people around me at all. In the club, however, or meeting for a Day 2, having a single drink with a girl can help a lot in a very reasonable excuse to isolate her, to build comfort, and to take her back to your place to try something special. It can also make standing around in a near-empty bar waiting for sets to come in almost tolerable, and help solidify the rela…
/r/seduction13/10/11 04:42 AM
1

I guess if you want to attract a complainer, then leading with a complaint is as good a foot forward as you could possibly have. Like attracts like. My girlfriends have never complained about a thing in their lives. Like attracts like is the same kind of common knowledge that is also commonly wrong; a trite meme with no meaning in itself. C'mon: magnets, air pressure, tall men and short women, and opposites attract. Ridiculous enough yet? Re: Carnegie, did you read it yourself before making that…
/r/seduction12/10/11 02:32 AM
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Talking about how you were disappointed in a grade is something that she will likely be able to identify with and share her own story. It's not being a complainer/downer. It's being human. I think Carnegie's book is a useless and outdated POS. Enjoy.
/r/seduction12/10/11 01:03 AM
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I find it better to express a full range of emotion and interests instead of being one of those hollow, souless fucks who are in constant fake happiness "I drank a beer" mode. I'm actually not one of those people, and I have tonnes of success. So being super happy is not necessary, not that I sit there talking about how my cat died. Some people will take it too far. You can do whatever you want.
/r/seduction11/10/11 11:51 PM
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Hey, you're cute and I wanted to meet you. I'm on my way to X class. What are you studying. Funny remark about an annoying teacher. What are your teachers like? I'm disappointment at my grade on X. pause, wait to see if she reciprocates and picks up the conversation, this would be a good sign she's interested at all or not. Cold read / push pull (You look laid back but I bet when you get home you become super nerd, studying in your nerd lair). No I'm not. (That's too bad, I totally caught you ou…
/r/seduction11/10/11 04:18 AM
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Get in shape! Sigh. Yup, hear that guys, you are not good enough as you are. I demand you change in line with a fad that has only been common for the past few decades and was popularised by Hollywood; the same people who have given you such great dating advice as you've been following so far. Enjoy.
/r/seduction11/10/11 04:10 AM
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I would've made more lifelong progress had I never found the community/material and just immersed myself in social situations that forced me to gain social experience. This is something that gets argued a lot, and is the problem I have with you and the OP. You get nowhere, forever. You study a bunch of stuff, it doesn't appear to work, but it's still in your brain (the gameplan, the waypoints, the techniques). You suddenly do something differently, get success, and attribute it to this alone. Fo…
/r/seduction11/10/11 01:01 AM
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I only flicked through this quickly, but nothing stood out as incorrect.
/r/seduction10/10/11 06:09 AM
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1 - I like Magnus, so, I don't want to say too much about it. 2 - Some of us did try it here. It didn't work for me, my wing liked it but stopped using it after a week or two, and my other wing was on it for months. As far as I can tell it didn't help any of their game, either. 3 - Wikipedia probably says it best: As with other alternative medicines lacking a plausible mechanism, critics have described EFT as "probably nonsense" and "unfalsifiable and therefore outside the realm of science." One…
/r/seduction09/10/11 12:01 AM
1

A week is a very good cut-off. If it went two weeks, you'd only let it because of extenuating circumstances where you were still progressing at a good pace each interaction and could see the light at the end of the tunnel. But most loser girls will have fucked off by then, so you're all good. Congrats on your record, by the way. This is why I always recommend other people do the same. Friends don't let friends have friends they don't have sex with!
/r/seduction07/10/11 02:18 PM
1

all you'll get is an awkward kiss followed by "Woah, I don't want to risk our friendship." That is totally, totally true. Like you, I also assume the whole thing was dead before he even started. The difference is, he may have gotten the kiss :-P (and that is all - though there is an infintesimally slim chance she'll backwards rationalise it as something positive). but it was absolutely not the problem here I'm not arguing at all, you are totally right, but I'm coming at it from an angle that is …
/r/seduction07/10/11 06:07 AM
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OP'd failure had nothing to do with kissing technique. This is debatable. My comment wasn't about seduction; rather semantics and physics. He said he "went for the kiss close", and she "said no." I want to find out what he means - did he talk to her about it? If so that's not going for a kiss close. That will almost never work. It's semantics. The alternative is that he actually went to kiss her. He could have swept in fast before she could react, and he likely would have gotten it. Or he could …
/r/seduction07/10/11 05:37 AM
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Did you go in for the kiss quickly, slowly, or did you ask? Because the first often works, the other two often fail. Good job, anyhow. Striking long-term no-options off the list can be a huge motivation.
/r/seduction07/10/11 02:53 AM
1

I just acknowledge that for one straight week, my pickup was amazing and the next it was shot. So here I am, working on different spots of where my pickup might be wrong. This is totally cool. I was looking for where you were, because commentary is going to vary depending on where your skills are at. If you're a beginner, I wouldn't criticise. Going out and talking to a girl is an accomplishment. In your case, if you've been talking to girls for a week, and now you've taken a step back - I still…
/r/seduction07/10/11 12:05 AM
2

I don't roll into situations evaluating my social status, or in terms of being higher or lower than other women in the room. It seems odd to me. Actually, if I see someone I'm attracted to, I go up and start talking as if it's just us there and that we're equals. Do you think/act differently? Do others? Why?
/r/seduction06/10/11 10:14 AM
2

nobody here, from what I've seen, thinks of inner game as a "concept" the same way you do I think it's because most people here came in where it was an already accepted idea. They don't see how things worked fine before it, and how it originated as a commercial selling point. Now I could let go of inner game as a concept and lump a whole bunch of things in with it (tactics, techniques, etc). But then there'll be nothing to separate the things that I'm referring to, from the ideas that commercial…
/r/seduction06/10/11 10:09 AM
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Thanks. So I take it you saw how I turned the frame around from me being wrong to being the one in authority who approves or disapproves of the other person's statement while still coming off as the reasonable one? That's what the model teaches, but if I really thought like that on a day to day basis I would probably rather go kill myself than try to do it. That's me disowning what I did, so that it doesn't appear calculated! This is why the mindset sucks (in some ways) or at least needs to be q…
/r/seduction06/10/11 06:45 AM
2

The way I usually handle AMOGs is by befriending them. I find befriending the bullies (by being one of them) disgusting. But, to each their own. gonna get downvoted, but you're not gonna get anyone to take your advice Neither of these really affects me as much as anyone would imagine. I think I mostly enjoy the writing, though it does aggravate me too! If you're "supplementing with a skillset," then you're "adding stuff." I think that's logically unsound as it presumes doing something to your li…
/r/seduction06/10/11 06:36 AM
2

Sounds good. Print out a large grid labelled Monday - Sunday, and a number of large columns with the steps you're going to have to achieve each day, something like the M3 model, but break it up so it's easy to achieve some success each day so that you're rewarded for effort if not actual results (for example, 1: Go outside, 2: Talk to female stranger, 3: Attract girl, 4: Isolate her, 5: Makeout and get phone number, 6: Call number, 7: Go on a Day 2), etc. Pin it high up on your wall (so you can …
/r/seduction06/10/11 05:23 AM
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How is that sad? It's sad from the perspective of a failure to realise your potential and a failure to acknowledge the failure of your potential in a way that's frank and will allow you to progress next time, other than just viewing it positively as a success. You went up to two girls; one you asked for directions, and one was paid to talk to you. This is less than someone with Downs Syndrome would do in a day. It's like saying you drank a glass of water or tied your shoelaces; they both took ro…
/r/seduction06/10/11 05:09 AM
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A completely reasonable reply.
/r/seduction06/10/11 03:59 AM
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Then that FR is extremely sad.
/r/seduction06/10/11 03:49 AM
1

You're a beginner, so good for you for talking to people. I'm not going to be hard on you. Do this more.
/r/seduction06/10/11 03:31 AM
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I wouldn't necessarily argue the points (well I would but I'm tired today), except the alpha/beta dichotomy. Once you're all alphas, that means some of you are back to being betas. If you were to rephrase is, how to be a better man - then that's a different story.
/r/seduction06/10/11 03:27 AM
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I'm an idiot, AA killed the best chance I've ever had. If seeing a girl and not talking to her was the best chance you've had, you're doing it wrong.
/r/seduction06/10/11 02:31 AM
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I love anthropomorphising everyone.
/r/seduction06/10/11 12:48 AM
2

You think I've never used AMOG tactics? We used them too. Of course we did, we helped write them. And they made us look like dicks. I have, I do all the time, and I know they fuckin work. Do what you will. The people who invented it later realised it wasn't necessary and was going overboard, and I agree with them. In most cases AMOGs are a sign of something else going wrong, and/or can be ignored. GIVE SOME OF YOUR OWN HELPFUL ADVICE. I'VE YET TO SEE ANY. My advice not to follow other people's a…
/r/seduction06/10/11 12:36 AM
2

They get stuck in social mode and never have that sexual intent with the girls they want to fuck. Thanks. I know a guy who was well versed in this stuff and going to the clubs every night for months/years on end; with no success. So he started chatting to the bouncers, etc. Making real friends with them. They'd invite him to parties and to come clubbing on their off nights, etc. Except it did nothing for his success either. Actually, it's worse. When hanging out with these guys they don't really…
/r/seduction05/10/11 03:50 PM
2

The concept of value wasn't created by PUAs man. I said it was a meme and whomever created it isn't as important as how it has since taken on a meaninglessness of its own. Look at a motivational book and you'll see the same ideas. How many people read motivational books? And how many people buy more and still have problems? Saying it has been said before isn't a very good indicator of how true or useful it is. Religion is a prime example of that ;-) You add value to someone's life when you have …
/r/seduction05/10/11 03:38 PM
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Talk to everybody... Don't, it's not necessary and it distracts you from the task at hand. Your time is just as easily occupied trying to talk to every new girl you see that you're attracted to. You are a VALUE GIVER Typical and nonsensical one-liner meme that gets regurgitated over and over. Talking to people is not giving value.
/r/seduction05/10/11 02:45 AM
2

Basic advice. If you're not doing this, you're an idiot.
/r/seduction05/10/11 02:42 AM
4

Totally agree with MJ on this one. However I know some other dickcheese on here is going to use it as an excuse to justify doing the wrong things over and over again.
/r/seduction04/10/11 04:13 AM
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Hey look a cockroach came out of the woodwork. Doing anything to improve one's self is never a bad thing. Hey go join the army, that way you can meet girls! Because improving yourself is never a bad thing. Oh wait, I just lied out of my ass. I could have just told you it was acceptable to talk to female strangers; instead I wasted years of your life killing people. But hey at least you improved in various ways (assuming you survived), even if those ways are unrelated to your seduction abilities!…
/r/seduction04/10/11 02:13 AM
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I've taken a bunch of advice such as join sports leagues, go to meetups and classes... "Go to the gym, dude!" Glad you've found that all this terrible advice is bullshit. Too bad the other fucks on here who keep recommending such idiotic shit will never catch on. I have only met 1 girl who I found attractive and intelligent enough for me Problem targetted. The ones I'm interested in all happen to be strangers Yup. This is normal. This is correct. This is where all great things start. How do you …
/r/seduction04/10/11 01:16 AM
2

Who were the teachers, if you don't mind me asking.
/r/seduction04/10/11 01:02 AM
2

You can go really far with material from the internet. Absolutely. Though finding the right package of information can be a bitch :-) Also we (the guys who wrote all of that stuff), occasionally hit a point where we just could not turn everything into success. Actually, almost everyone in the community was getting stuck in the same situation, and this is when a couple of the better guys started travelling and showing each other, "I'm a success and this is how I do it." It spread like wildfire be…
/r/seduction04/10/11 01:00 AM
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I helped with RSD in 2003/2004, ran some myself in 2005/2006, and helped with Sinn in 2007/2008. They were all excellent bootcamps and highly recommended in their respective years. But teaching techniques change and I'm not sure about the quality from place to place and teacher to teacher now. I think it is worth finding out whose philosophy matches your style most and going with them because they're going to want you to run sets using the methods and sometimes material they taught during the da…
/r/seduction04/10/11 12:49 AM
2

Philosoraptor has a question for you: http://imgur.com/4bLmj On a more serious note, I'm selfish and willing to go through some potential awkwardness to get to know someone so we can start living and loving together. On a less serious note, I also drive a car and so have learned to intensely dislike most of the rest of the other car driving population. Why should I give a fuck when some fuckhead who can't even indicate or drive the speed limit feels uncomfortable about me talking to some chick w…
/r/seduction03/10/11 02:53 AM
2

I didn't last more than 30 seconds. I'm not the target audience though, so it'd be very hard to hold my attention.
/r/seduction03/10/11 02:20 AM
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Ask yourself: are you 'not a fan of [it]' merely because you're not good at it yet? Very good point. Sometimes it's nice to try new things and discover you like them.
/r/seduction03/10/11 02:18 AM
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Rest assured that the terms alpha and beta as typically applied to seduction, are bullshit. Don't make excuses for what you want to do. Don't do what you don't want to do in order to fit into some stereotype. And go talk to the girls you want and make the connections you want to get what you want. Carry on.
/r/seduction03/10/11 02:16 AM
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Did you close the 80 numbers? All those happen randomly with me doing good things without being aware of it. Are you a natural? I'm curious what your end goal is (not kino, the end end goal). Are you successful and going for something in particular (fucking a lot of girls, meeting a particular type of girl); or are you unsuccessful and trying to fix fundamental flaws in your game?
/r/seduction03/10/11 02:15 AM
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Am I the only one here? I tend to follow most advices posted in this subreddit. But this one feels kind of wrong. I understand the reasons behind not paying for a date, but I guess I'm too scared of being seen as a cheap ass. What kind of dates are you doing? If you're out shopping for food with her to take her back to your place to make dinner together? I'd definitely pay for it. If you're out having a coffee? I'd definitely pay for it. If you're taking the girl out to a restaurant or somewhere…
/r/seduction03/10/11 02:04 AM
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I'll be hanging out with a group of girls, I'll say/do something random, and I get called a creep BUT the girls still remain heavy with the kino and still keep talking to me. I obviously don't show them it affects me but it makes me wonder if I'm actually being creepy or if they're just shit-testing me. Tough call. I think when girls say this it usually refers to a guy being hyper and/or bringing up lots of random topics at once where they can't follow the connecting conversational thread. If yo…
/r/seduction03/10/11 02:01 AM
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I was looking through the FR trying to find what you actually got from the night; isolations, kisses, numbers, day twos? But you didn't say, so I'm not sure if you got any or not. I'm starting to see the matrix of pickup. Well, no offence. But while you still saying things like this: my HB9 make out change to more dominant, alpha male where girls are submissive and qualifying themselves going sexual with subcommunication In my personal opinion only, I don't think you're quite there yet; or maybe…
/r/seduction03/10/11 01:47 AM
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On one hand, it detracts from the time you should be getting to know each other. On the other, it can be hard to think of everything to say for a few hours on the spot and can be a nice filler. On one hand, it can come off as creepy, analytical, playerish and can kill the romance and rush the girl is having from being with you. On the other hand, it can demonstrate authority on a topic. On one hand, it can come off as complaining or annoying to make up stories about other people. On the other ha…
/r/seduction02/10/11 05:40 AM
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Holy shit, I love a good seduction failure mystery! She texts me every day leading up to the night, being flirty and somewhat catty (very out of character for her, as she's a very reserved girl). This is the key. I can't quite put my finger on why and what it means, but it's all in this. I make my intents obvious, and she turns me down. How did you make it obvious, and how did she turn you down? I wasn't very persistent after that. She may have wanted you to push it more so she wouldn't feel lik…
/r/seduction01/10/11 05:34 PM
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Breaking news: Guy gets pissed off by because 3 friends refuse to fuck him. Full story at 8pm.
/r/seduction01/10/11 02:51 PM
1

A totally sane post.
/r/seduction01/10/11 11:32 AM
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Times are changing. Homo-sapiens have existed for 500 thousand years, descending from the first sexually reproducing organisms which popped into existence 1-1.2 billion years ago. Every time someone argues 15 years of mobile phones, or 7 years of Facebook, is going to alter the course of 1.2 billion years of accumulated sexual indicators and mating rituals hardcoded into everyone's genes; I can't help but wonder what they're smoking.
/r/seduction01/10/11 08:06 AM
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Because you used text in a masterful way. I use it too, once when I'm going to bed that night after meeting someone, "Going to sleep, call you tomorrow. sleep tight XO", which almost always gets a good response back. You're the last thought on their mind, you call them the next day, they pick up and it's time to set up the Day 2 (if you haven't already). Or if someone is foreign and their English isn't very good, text can be super important; though in that case the next day I'm also sending a te…
/r/seduction01/10/11 05:14 AM
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He meant a 2 year old. They have bitch shields the size of barns. "I want my mommy!" 'Yeah we'll find her in a second, come look at this shiny thing!'
/r/seduction01/10/11 05:03 AM
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However, I've gotten to where I don't consider anythnig a success unless a lay results out of it. Everything else to me is mental masturbation at this point. So texting has to be limited by it's very nature. I dont' want a bunch of chat buddies, I want girlfriends or FBs. Right on.
/r/seduction01/10/11 05:02 AM
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What's your standard for something to be in the sidebar? It seems like any kind of long post gets that; regardless of if it is right, or wrong, or how much success the poster is having.
/r/seduction01/10/11 05:00 AM
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The fundamentals of most everyone on r/seduction are a fucking disgrace. Always assume attraction Do you know what this actually means? It seems that the meaning has been lost for some people. It came about as a thought pattern for guys who wouldn't progress dates because "they weren't getting signals", when the girl just being there is the biggest signal you can get. Also most guys will walk away saying he got no signals when it was obvious to any third party observer; it's just that their brai…
/r/seduction01/10/11 04:59 AM
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And the concept is vague and old, but a lot of things are. Sorry, that's no excuse for re-packaging something old as something new for the purposes of selling it, which is what it's all about. But if the person came away with a better understanding of themselves and the concept, I think its ok. Just to clarify, if inner game is just a noun like you said that just means "have confidence", why would you pay to learn about it, and how could you walk away with a better understanding of it? It's a no…
/r/seduction30/09/11 03:41 PM
2

Your only mistake was thinking that having sex with her meant you were in some kind of relationship; it seemed to me reading what you said from the beginning that it was a very casual hookup. It's kind of like the reverse of some girls presuming guys will date them after sex when the guy had no intention to.
/r/seduction30/09/11 06:44 AM
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she was sitting a little far so not much kino going on This can be a real problem. I see the opportunity to move when the band starts playing, shift to a smaller table to watch. Great solution. End of date, I fucked up, should have gone for the kiss but just hugged, said I'd call her. This killed everything. It's crazy to imagine this from a man's perspective ("Everything else was great! WTF!") but it's life and the way things are. You will very rarely if ever recover from this kind of thing unl…
/r/seduction30/09/11 06:01 AM
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Haha, I noticed this too. What a douche.
/r/seduction30/09/11 05:56 AM
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I'm not going to go into your other stuff, though I disagree. But this stood out: but if your values money will make you more confident, you're doing it wrong Relevant (for LOLs): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RoLdkgjKhs
/r/seduction30/09/11 05:47 AM
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Good advice.
/r/seduction30/09/11 05:46 AM
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It also goes by the name "inner game" and "live an interesting life to be interesting". There's a huge difference between what JamaI said and what you've just said. JamaI is describing not doing anything extra, not doing additional interesting things for the purposes of acquiring confidence, but rather to be be good and happy what you already do, and not beating yourself up over it. It's very zen. Confidence is already there, you just need to remove the shit sitting on top of it to see it. I fou…
/r/seduction30/09/11 05:43 AM
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Scarily sound advice for r/seduction!
/r/seduction30/09/11 05:12 AM
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How did you gain confidence? Through failure, learning, and then success.
/r/seduction30/09/11 05:11 AM
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My friend used to bring girls home with "BELIVE IN YOURSELF" written on his wall. He knew it was misspelt.
/r/seduction29/09/11 03:05 PM
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He's exaggerating it for comic effect. I hope you and others realise that :-) There's a noticeable difference between a girl looking scared, saying no, and pushing you away while trying to escape; and a girl who's not scared, cuddled against you in her home after making you dinner, is not saying no, and not pushing you away in any any semi serious manner; then starts moaning and is wet as shit when you take her clothes off with little to no resistance. It's called token resistance, in case anyon…
/r/seduction29/09/11 05:04 AM
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I read and super highly recommend the book, Feeling Good by Dr. David Burns. It's clinically proven to work as/more effective than medicine for the treatment of clinical depression. It's also a great read, and smells really good. It will give you a lot of real life examples, and various experiments to do (I wanted to say exercises, but not be interpreted as exercise). It's probably one of the greatest medical books ever written.
/r/seduction29/09/11 04:45 AM
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Ah okay, I misread what you said ;-)
/r/seduction29/09/11 04:43 AM
1

Agreed. How did you get from there to here? Was it a miscommunication?
/r/seduction29/09/11 03:46 AM
1

I'm 31. I don't own many assets aside from an old $3k car, and I rent a house. I suppose if you owned a house or something you might be more cautious.
/r/seduction29/09/11 03:42 AM
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Well, what for you is uncompatible/good/great/amazing etc? That's pretty complicated, and different for each person, so I don't think it's worth getting into. My point is that I had different levels of compatability with each person, and so I think it might be the same for everyone else too (because I'm not a snowflake or anything). I'm not jaded. If you are jaded, that's going to make things difficult. I'm pretty childlike in that I have no problem throwing my heart and everything else into a n…
/r/seduction29/09/11 03:23 AM
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To clarify, the cycle for me is: there are a few incompatible women, and lots of good women, but every few years you'll meet a really good woman, and once or twice a decade a really amazing woman; in terms of compatability and how well I feel things are going to last forever. You can see from the periods of time involved, lots of people will never know this stuff because they will just cycle through a couple incompatible women and marry/divorce (or not even that) and get jaded. But, there's some…
/r/seduction29/09/11 03:00 AM
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She doesn't initiate physical contact, does not respond to flirtation, when we have some couch time, she won't generally respond to my touching (like if I pick up her hand to hold it, she won't hold mine back). The most she will do is place her head in the crook of my armpit, and maybe put her legs over mine. She is responding by not pushing you away. That's all the signs you need. With this kind of asian woman, she wants you to lay there limply / fake a little struggle while you take off her cl…
/r/seduction29/09/11 02:56 AM
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Honest to god, you shouldn't get married and have unprotected sex until you've known a person for a few good years,lived with them already, have a financially stable plan, and trust them completely. Love is work, and hard work at that. I'd agree with all of this except the unprotected sex part. I've put all of my long-term girlfriends on the pill after a few months of getting to know each other and/or having moved in together, and never had a problem; so have many of my peers.
/r/seduction29/09/11 02:29 AM
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How common is it nowadays, for those to marry and have a family young? I know a tonne of guys, and half married in their 20s, and the other half didn't. It's no big deal. You'd be best looking for official statistics if you really cared though. But I do want to be married and start a family. I want to be there for them and provide, obviously don't want to be taken for or treated like a sucker and screwed over in any way, which is why I would need to make sure it's all 100%, but this really has b…
/r/seduction29/09/11 02:27 AM
1

I've never met anyone in Australia that has read The Rules. However I remember when it came out, we were laughing on ASF because guys were dating rules girls who weren't following any of them! Besides, guaranteed sex on the 3rd date is a godsend to most AFCs.
/r/seduction29/09/11 02:18 AM
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It seems women are pretty much ALWAYS gaming you to do things they want. I've thought about this in the context of my past relationships, and I've never felt this way. And they're very particular about what they want out of a guy, it seems so cold and calculated the way most women have things planned out. Then my girlfriends must be saving up all of that cold calculation just to plan a great birthday for me each year. But the rest of the year there's no calculation involved at all; even picking …
/r/seduction29/09/11 02:15 AM
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Negativity never works You haven't lived until you've walked around a few night clubs with a scrolling LED sign on your chest reading, "Kill me." And then leaving with a couple of the hottest chicks in the club on your arm. Negativity can work :-D You're totally right though, I'd never say the stuff this guy said.
/r/seduction29/09/11 02:03 AM
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Also, giving a girl your number is rarely a successful strategy. Ask for hers. This.
/r/seduction29/09/11 02:01 AM
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GREAT question, and upvote! I don't think I've ever said that on r/seduction before. "oh hey, he thinks you're really cute!" Put your arm around her and whisper, "Shhh the other girls will get jealous." "hey, he wants to give you his number." "He means, I was going to ask you for your number. But not while you're working, I'll talk to you later." Is there any way to come out of these situations by being smooth? The perceived weakness is from the implication you were asking for advice or courage …
/r/seduction29/09/11 01:59 AM
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I'm surprised other people don't think that way! Overall I'm thinking of what cool stuff we can do together, often so I can ask if they've done this or been here, and tell stories about it. Story telling is a huge part of my process. And I'm not talking about skiing or anything else cool like that; I'm talking about my favourite beach, or some swamp where I grew up, or my favourite store to buy Bratwurst sausages and cook special hotdogs (I'm 100% serious). If I think of other stuff, it might be…
/r/seduction29/09/11 01:16 AM
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But I hate it when you call someone and they don't pick up - then you're left wondering if they were busy, or didn't notice it, or just stood there waiting for you to give up. You'll know immediately if they pick up or call back soon after, that you did things right; also there is more social pressure for them to pickup a phone whereas everyone is conditioned to ignore texts (even me, from my mum. Hi mum!) If they take a long time you know you did something wrong. If they never reply or pickup y…
/r/seduction29/09/11 01:11 AM
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I didn't think of the douche remark like that, sorry. I was imagining a night club filled with guys like on Jersey Shore where one is recalling tales of their friend Steve-o who gets all the cougar ladies. I have to ask how old are you? I'm 31. Because my situation pertains to college and text game is basically how everyone gets laid, not just this guy. You have a point. We completely owned our university by cold approaching thousands of people over the first few weeks of each year. We had to ke…
/r/seduction29/09/11 12:52 AM
1

Some douche in the club will tell you the most successful guy he knows gets chicks by going up and grabbing their tits on the dance floor, then jiggling his pectoral muscles. Just because some people do it, doesn't make it good, and doesn't make it repeatable. Ultimately though you're going to do whatever you want, whether I advice otherwise or not.
/r/seduction28/09/11 01:47 PM
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You're problem is that you're trying to make it into a binary. It is close to a binary; one method takes a minimum level of confidence and putting your ego on the line to pull off; and a method that guys hide behind time and again to make up for their lack of confidence, and to pump their ego by feeling like they're players juggling a bunch of options who aren't actually interested but don't blow out because texts are so meaningless to girls. Who cares? If it works for you, feel free to text all…
/r/seduction28/09/11 01:46 PM
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Her: "Yeah. Right the next day [after the evening we had met]. You didn't text either - you actually called, and just set up a date. That was hot." I was going to quote that next time I do a comment saying, "text game is fucking shit compared to calling" and all the fearful turd roaches too "fake busy" to call come out of the woodwork claiming how awesome it is. I've had good success with text game, and I like it because it gives you time to put together and think about a great response every ti…
/r/seduction28/09/11 05:40 AM
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Truth is you're presenting a complete package and if you're the best you can be in each area you'll have the best results. I couldn't care less about the guys who want the best results. Why would I give a shit if someone can stick their dick for the hundredth time into their opinion of a 7.5 instead of a 7 because they invested 100 hours and more into the gym? My mind boggles at how horrific the desire to pursue that is. Who I do care deeply about are the newbies here who are desperate to have t…
/r/seduction28/09/11 01:21 AM
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Answered incorrectly.
/r/seduction27/09/11 07:54 AM
1

Needs a tag saying, "Commercial".
/r/seduction27/09/11 07:54 AM
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You’re just going to attract the type and quality of girl who is fine with a guy looking like shit — which is most likely less attractive girls. Someone still trapped in the mentality that you need to do something special to attract a high quality woman. No, but it’s still important Important if you want to use it as a fallback excuse for why some guys can't get the girls they're going for, when you're either not skilled enough to point out the actual things they're doing wrong, or marketing a p…
/r/seduction27/09/11 07:41 AM
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I'm not really sure what the whole point of the game is after you get the f close. f close again? develop fwb or fuck buddy relationship? At that point it's about what the two of you decide you want. I feel like seduction isn't about developing any romantic gf/bf relationship. I'm not 100% clear on that. It's not. It's about sleeping with someone so you have half the option to decide where it's going to go next. Otherwise, you'd have zero options.
/r/seduction27/09/11 05:01 AM
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Coming from the viewpoint of guys taking out women "on a date" who aren't attracted to them in the first place, of course you don't want to pay for shit because it was obvious to everyone else you weren't going to get anything in the first place. For anyone else, which should be the people in r/seduction if you were following the past decade of observable, repeatable, documented evidence on how to meet and attract women and progress the interaction; this will never be an issue. The most you buy …
/r/seduction27/09/11 04:56 AM
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That just attracts way too much attention and will make her feel awkward and in the spotlight because now everyone is paying attention to her and how she reacts to your approach. Though the interpretation swings both ways; she's under social pressure to respond well to bold moves, as opposed to blowing you out immediately.
/r/seduction27/09/11 04:19 AM
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I think that's a pretty extreme suggestion. YMMV but that's how it happened for me. None of my social circle were ever able to accept the change, and they were your average cool guys. Or maybe I just realised how fucking worthless delusional AFCs are? Well hey, whatever.
/r/seduction26/09/11 11:21 PM
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Sound advice.
/r/seduction26/09/11 11:14 PM
1

I read about this, the Mayan prophecy of 2012 and how the world was going to end. We just didn't know HOW, but now we do... Don't do it! Don't break the circle!
/r/seduction26/09/11 11:14 PM
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She clearly made eye contact with me and I'm fairly sure she was interested but I froze up and just continued dancing where I was. Every guy does it. After a short while she left to go to the bar. Every girl does it. Afterwards I couldn't help thinking about it and wondering what I could've done to show that I was also interested. Talking to her at all would be a start. I didn't think it would be appropriate to break the circle Nooooooooo. The circle! The poor circle! You broke it! I should've s…
/r/seduction26/09/11 01:51 PM
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I've used both. It's not going to make or break anything. My concern is; wouldn't you like to know doesn't convey anything about you. It's empty. The girl can also push, "I do want to know, so tell me". Now what's your comeback? Say the same thing again and look like a robot? Give in and tell her the truth or a made-up story? Pull your dick out (probably the only valid option at this point, and the only one that might salvage the situation)? What does a gentleman never tell convey? That you don'…
/r/seduction26/09/11 01:38 PM
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becoz he just got out of a relationship Those guys will rarely be inclined to learn something "they can already do" (by luck). then one of the guy tell me that seddit are assholes Sooo true. my friends start to call me assholes, and flirt, creepy... It's called social homeostasis; I'd say look it up but the first few hits are worthless. In summary, people don't like the people around them to change, and will try their best to make you revert to your old self. So the only way to change is to ditc…
/r/seduction26/09/11 07:49 AM
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I approach interactions from the viewpoint of, "What cool stuff can we do together?" I don't think of your stuff in the field; but when building gameplans I do consider what I think is the corrolary of what you're doing: how do I structure my stories to make her feel attraction; and how do I give make her feel she's earned my affection. I think that sounds a lot nicer. We're probably talking about the same thing.
/r/seduction26/09/11 07:32 AM
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And now when you go to meet someone do you think, "What are they going to do for me?"
/r/seduction26/09/11 05:42 AM
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how can "I" make her want me Trying to think of when I last thought that, and can't remember. Is this actually a common mental process that other people have? I'm surprised, and yeah it's wouldn't be healthy to have. but more you screening her Oh yeah, what swingcat popularised in 2004-2005. I remember that. But now it's back as a mildly insulting meme and sold in a product so it can be misunderstood. Great. This is why friends don't let friends buy / market products. In field training? Totally …
/r/seduction26/09/11 04:07 AM
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Me too, I was like - "Wait, what?" Don't worry. Idiots buy it, idiots believe it. There's still good people (us) in the world.
/r/seduction26/09/11 04:05 AM
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I used both day and night.
/r/seduction26/09/11 12:50 AM
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"Wouldn't you like to know?" Exactly what I said, a gentleman never tells. This could also work, but I'd still use mine. "no no no, tell me about you" Definitely not this. Don't ask her about her romances at all, why would you want to hear all the stupid decisions she has made sleeping with the dickheads who broke her heart already, it might turn you off of her.
/r/seduction25/09/11 03:19 PM
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Today, I'm going to chill with her and I'm sure she is going to ask "do you have any past relationships, etc" A gentleman never tells. and the whole how many girls have you had sex with. After 11 years or so, this has never come up in conversation.
/r/seduction25/09/11 02:55 PM
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I haven't for a long time, but here's one that was weird/fun and worked well enough. "Stop. Hmmm. Are my eye lashes long? Some girl just grabbed me, like THIS, stared into my eyes (stare into her eyes), and said she wanted my eyelashes because they're super long. Do I need, mini eyelash scissors?" You're already face to face and close up, she's staring into your eyes, and it's mildly funny, when she's done inspecting and/or laughing, move onto something else (a quick qualifier like wow, while yo…
/r/seduction25/09/11 02:50 PM
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I was referring in general; if a girl said that kind of thing, that's the cause and how I'd handle it in the moment. It has surely happened to me in the distant past. Is it really a shit test? It would depend on the situation and the girl. Done light heartedly, it's no big deal and the make out would likely pull you through (after all, she wants you to pass, and doesn't realise her joke could cost you the relationship because in her mind you're already her hero and going to handle it). Meant as …
/r/seduction25/09/11 02:43 PM
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Yep like any other date. Pick her up and spin her when you see her, then plant a quick kiss on her mouth when you drop her down, then run off arm in arm to the breakfast place, lots of kino, touching, looking into each other's eyes, then "let's cook lunch together", go shopping, get the ingredients along with some candy and a movie, back to your place, and ...
/r/seduction25/09/11 11:45 AM
1

But whenever I respect a woman's wishes, I get friend zoned. Have you ever heard of not looking at what a woman is saying, but looking at what she is doing? (And by extension, if she's with you and "not doing anything" that's your sign that she's open to you trying anything to see what happens). What am not supposed to ever let her have any control in the pace of the relationship? This part you'll need to explain more.
/r/seduction25/09/11 11:43 AM
1

I'm 31, and I'm the cutest fuck there could ever be. I have some killer, killer routines based on it. So - if that's your personality, exploit it to the max because some girls love that. With that said, my idea of cute could be entirely different to yours. I also think the opener is very, very weak. If you want to use it and it's working for you though, it's up to you.
/r/seduction25/09/11 11:40 AM
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would guys see that that as a shit test? I think if it got to that point your game would have been fundamentally flawed earlier on. Though, I think I may have heard it once or twice by a girl who was just cheeky and wanted to get a rise, and was perfectly willing to give it over for jumping through a little hoop. I'd probably just kiss her then look down at my phone expectantly. And if she had the gall to say, "Is that all?" it would almost be like begging you to go fuck her in the toilets. Hmmm…
/r/seduction25/09/11 11:38 AM
1

You're right, I've never heard good pickup advice from women either; even those officially affiliated with the larger dating companies.
/r/seduction25/09/11 11:36 AM
1

Is it possible for me to change the 'nerdy' persona I've acquired (without dropping my mark significantly), or should I just wait until university. The best of us argue this a lot after we've changed completely and have lots of women in our life: "Did we actually change, or are we still the same inside?" Because on one side, we can do a whole lot of stuff we couldn't. But at what level do we actually "change"? I mean I still work with computers, like playing video games, board games, soft toys, …
/r/seduction25/09/11 11:33 AM
1

Have any of you had an issue like this before? It happens to almost everyone even at the top of their game. Almost every guy I know has slacked a little once he has something hot in the pipeline. Here's the advice part though. They also move them through the pipeline quickly. I mean within a day or two, at most a week. Make sure you're doing the same. It's not one-itis as long as you're progressing things and have your plan and are sticking to it. But the moment she appears out of reach, it's ti…
/r/seduction25/09/11 11:28 AM
2

You sound like a real douche. I'm surprised people are giving you any advice at all.
/r/seduction25/09/11 11:19 AM
0

Waste of time.
/r/seduction25/09/11 11:16 AM
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Haha yeah, the cereal section can give you so many places to go... Hey (that cereal in your hand) looks cool is it any good; childhood stories from when you were eating cereal and your brother made milk came out of your nose; this one tastes absolutely terrible stay away; do you remember X they don't make it anymore; cold reads on what kind of cereal they eat; then going into what happens AFTER cereal (work/school, traffic/busses, co-workers/friends). It's a gold mine. Though, probably wouldn't …
/r/seduction25/09/11 02:55 AM
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I'm glad this worked for you. I wouldn't personally use it, though I'll hold back from saying it's shit seeing as I haven't tried it. I'll be interested to hear how others actually go with it in the field; in particular how many girls just walked away with it or started drinking from it.
/r/seduction24/09/11 02:10 PM
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I never had a problem remembering it; and there various things have meaning and it's your job to interpret them, that's what I did. If they looked it up they wouldn't be angry, they'd think I was spot on. A peer of mine just gave the same canned one every time though. They would probably be pissed at him, if they could even recognise the interpretation was wrong.
/r/seduction24/09/11 01:45 AM
1

I suppose, you're probably right. I might have said it if things went bad in a workplace, but on a random chick like this? No. Personal choice I suppose! Upvotes for all!
/r/seduction23/09/11 03:16 PM
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Lift it next to their face and carry on like usual? Yep. I don't know if you've seen videos of chickens that go into a trance when you turn them over and move your finger in a straight line by their face... it might be the same thing. I don't believe in human hypnosis so I think it's more likely though that they ignore it or filter it out because of the momentary weirdness. Try it anyway, fun stuff. I don't think there'd be many videos of it because we're talking 1960s 1970s here, but the origin…
/r/seduction23/09/11 03:14 PM
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I gave him a bad feeling because IMO that's the medicine for the sickness he has. The sickness is, he wants to do stuff and he didn't. Now he is going to suffer for it, and I want him to fully realise that that suffering was specifically caused by his inaction. It's meant to hurt, because he fucked up his own chances. And I'm sorry but when things get to this stage, they're pretty much hopeless though he's free to waste further effort on it. Sorry that that's life; I don't want it to work it thi…
/r/seduction23/09/11 03:09 PM
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Well that's up to you, but it's not optional, it's how the game is played. So, any time you spend after that waypoint and you not taking it is going to be wasted, as well as most tips and strategies you formulate for afterward. Sure, you might be able to last an hour; but it will be completely flash game. Then you'll have to go back and relearn how to do it properly. It's not as bad as it sounds. You don't have to move her to the other side of the club, just a few feet away.
/r/seduction23/09/11 03:05 PM
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Naturally. That's not how I meant it; it's flavour text.
/r/seduction23/09/11 03:03 PM
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I accepted the response politely and maturely, saying that I would be OK with being friends and appreciated the honesty. She'll never really be your friend. My advice is, realise this, and stop saying it in the future.
/r/seduction23/09/11 12:13 PM
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Okay from each person's own perspective. You reach out your right hand. They reach out their right hand. You grab their right hand with your left hand and lift it up, so it's just above their shoulder.
/r/seduction23/09/11 06:35 AM
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There's two ways of reading what you said; maybe I picked the wrong one :-P What you may have meant: Go out and meet new girls. My reading: You call too often / are trying too hard (because you said before you're too available, which I fundamentally disagree with).
/r/seduction23/09/11 05:27 AM
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Sorry dude, this is poor advice, and you can tell because it's the same shit AFCs say. "Dude you're too available, play hard to get!" Don't believe this garbage. It's also repeated by guys who may have decent flash game or can hold a set for 30 minutes but never get laid because they can bore/friend a girl for ages but completely skip the qualification, comfort/rapport stages and so get nowhere near having sex. It's a symptom of a problem, you may not have escalated at all on that first meeting …
/r/seduction23/09/11 05:21 AM
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I'm sure I could've pulled home but instead I got stuck in boring conversation and the vibe just died. That's how it always feels. It feels that way because you haven't done everything else necessary to escalate the interaction. Because you're not escalating, you don't get the indicators you need that something isn't going to progress to the next phase, and so when you implement your any advice, my warning is that you'll probably (not necessarily, but probably) feel like you're going backwards, …
/r/seduction23/09/11 05:16 AM
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Remember to check back on this submission after this thing fails horribly so you can learn something from it. We ended with a hug So I didn't go for the kiss this time Physical contact wasn't abundant This is why you've set yourself up for failure. And if you'd have done the opposite of that, plus this: I should say at this point, I am interested in this lady, and my intent was to get to know her better and set the stage for another date later on, and not to get her in bed (at least not now). Yo…
/r/seduction23/09/11 05:03 AM
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You're too available. This was poorly thought out advice. You want some advice? Judge people by their actions, not their words. She's not making an effort to hand out? She doesn't actually want to hang out. But this is entirely possible, and even insightful.
/r/seduction23/09/11 05:01 AM
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I'm kind of curious, if a guy went up to a girl and asked how many cocks she could fit in her mouth, and she slapped him; was he out-gamed or just an idiot? That's how I felt reading your post. You meet a girl in person, and then do everything you can to possibly avoid actually speaking to her again while still trying to communicate through texts and facebook. slow clap Lessons learned: Don't bother with text and facebook "game". (I can see people disagreeing with this; but fuck you, this is exa…
/r/seduction23/09/11 04:57 AM
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I think that's a pretty terrible opener and so not the way to open sets. However, as you seem to like it (though not to encourage you), I gives you this! Say "Hi, I'm X" and go to shake their hand. As they reach out their hand, reach out your OTHER hand and use it to raise THEIR hand up next to their face. Now, keep holding it there, and start talking (or let it go and see it drift slowly down). You can get through for quite a while talking about other stuff before they notice (if ever) that som…
/r/seduction23/09/11 04:47 AM
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All you can say is, in your experience, Inner game is bullshit. Stellar experience, wide in depth and breadth! Come on man, don't make me say it again! Theres quite a few people, some battle hardened PUAs, that have had great success with women and they attest at least some of this success to Inner game theory. Of course there are, and some of those guys are my peers and friends and we have discussions as robust as this one about it. I don't think they're right, they don't think I'm right, some …
/r/seduction22/09/11 12:10 PM
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show her that you like her for her..but how would you do that? It depends on what you've been talking about, what you noticed about her looks, attitude, or replies to you/the environment/your questions, etc. Or you can just make a guess, or completely make it up. It's been a while, and I don't have my old diaries handy, but I'll make some shut up on the spot so you can see what I'm talking about (note: not field tested): "What I like about you is you're easy to talk to. Some girls are all like b…
/r/seduction22/09/11 10:05 AM
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I don't know if you can get Feeling Good in ebook, but the book itself is compact (but thick) and smells GREAT. It's only $10 delivered: http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Feeling-Good-David-Burns/9780380810338 It's not like a normal self-help book. It identifies like the top 10 logical fallacies in the things we tell ourselves, and gives so many examples of how they manifest in our thinking. Then it gives us lots of exercises on ways to defeat that kind of thinking. I mean literal: go out and do t…
/r/seduction22/09/11 12:47 AM
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I guess it looks annoying that I don't do a huge AMA. But I have so much knowledge and experience in my head, it would be like writing a book. How can I possibly condense all that down into one big post? I also have a huge archive of material to draw on, hundreds of field reports and diary entries. What do I put in, what do I leave out? So until I can answer that kind of question, I try to be productive by picking on the major things that seem wrong to me. I can't fix all of you, but maybe I can…
/r/seduction22/09/11 12:41 AM
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So I must be like everyone else if I want everyone to like me; aka being fake/hypocritical/living a life worse than one without a purpose I didn't say that and I think I'd remember it because I don't agree with it. Do you think the common people think about anything they're doing? I don't. We can't know for sure, but I don't think so. Do you? I'm challenging you to think about what limits you put on yourself. I don't mind what answer you come up with, I probably SHOULD have asked, "Why?" and mad…
/r/seduction22/09/11 12:32 AM
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i feel like thats basically what this guy is saying, in so many words. not sure whats so wrong with that. I felt like picking a fight because it's the lowest tier of advice anyone can give. Your mum probably told you to dress nice in 1990. It's not helpful. It's like doing a post on having inner game by, "being yourself". The guy has to write about something though (because he's selling you stuff), so I probably went too far.
/r/seduction22/09/11 12:17 AM
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Do you see field-time and documented success and failure as anecdotal evidence as opposed to semi-scientific fact (in regards to seduction)? I've never heard anyone say that before. IMO experience (especially if you have a lot of it) is the highest level of evidence, and if you wanted something else I couldn't help you. Also while you said I've spoken about other people, I heavily rely on my own experience and try to state it as such, and only bring in the experience of my peers to help show I'm…
/r/seduction22/09/11 12:16 AM
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I've been in the game 6 years longer than this guy and I have the usenet posts from 1999 to prove it. This guy's first experience was reading, "The Game" in 2005. I was IN that book. I was already teaching bootcamps and helped work on and refine every technique mentioned in it, participating in the discussions and field testing on ASF and Mystery's Lounge. This guy is selling a product. I'm not selling you anything. I could, but I have a normal(ish) job, and a girlfriend who I don't want to chea…
/r/seduction21/09/11 02:31 PM
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After writing the couple page reply, I turned off my laptop and went into the kitchen. My girlfriend was making me pikelets, I asked her why, and she said she was a little upset and doing it to get my attention because she felt I was spending too much time trying to help you guys and that you strangers were more important than her. I was like no way baby, I turned off my laptop and I'm here for you, and then we spent a couple hours playing old school D&D boardgames (Hero Quest and Castle Ravenlo…
/r/seduction21/09/11 02:27 PM
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Ok I was trying to be civil but you're obviously just a cunt. Over the past decade I've had more experience than anyone I've come across here thus far, and I built it all (with the aid of my peers) from nothing, using only real life field experience as our guide. Then I come onto here and see a bunch of no-hopes leading people who were in our very same situation to the promised land, using a bunch of shit we tried early on and discovered didn't work. The way to killing bad ideas (as you should k…
/r/seduction21/09/11 11:27 AM
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Going backwards ... what can I do to fix this..like actual stuff I can do. Don't mimic the guy, what he did is genuinely weird. Nobody I know closes the deal like that at all. Maybe he has good game up to that point, and so the girl just goes along with whatever freaky shit he says. That means he could have said nothing and still stuck his dick in her, and you should do the same. but when she's totally down the frame completely changes in a split second and it's super blunt..like lets fuck right…
/r/seduction21/09/11 11:01 AM
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You've seen the wrong material on it. Inner game is an abstract psychological concept that defines mental strength and stability in a structured way. Nope. I haven't seen the wrong material. I have a giant library of books on the subject, I've seen a lot of (pirated) material, and I've been directly involved in the seduction side since 1999. But most important, myself and a bunch of peers (we who wrote all the rulebooks on this stuff in the early 00's) attained success from nothing, without talk…
/r/seduction21/09/11 10:43 AM
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Sorry, that's exactly what he says: Just like fitness, fashion is given a once over so that everyone can rush to the catchy lines, or the anti-flake tactics — when really, fashion and fitness are going to be far bigger factors to your success. I call bullshit.
/r/seduction21/09/11 10:32 AM
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Your distinction between people with reddish hair and the rest of the human race is disturbing. I have a bit of red in my beard possibly from scottish ancestry and I think it's awesome. I've never heard anyone bring this shit up in real life. If someone brought it up with me I'd look at them like they were a social leper, and they'd feel it. Surely you know the history right? European women slept around with manly redheads instead of their husbands; but the redheaded children were a sign of chea…
/r/seduction21/09/11 08:28 AM
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It's any kind of look which appears intentional and focused on you, as opposed to them scanning the room or gazing off into the direction in which you're standing.
/r/seduction21/09/11 07:15 AM
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things don't work in "points" so wearing for example..an armor/clothing doesn't necessarily increase anything... Hilariously, a few years into the game my peer and I both got earrings to "add 0.5 points to ourselves on the looks scale." Despite my ranting, and having discarded much of my shit from before, I still believe this one thing to be mostly true and have the same ones in to this day :-D The shame!
/r/seduction21/09/11 07:05 AM
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I've mixed a lot of ideas there and so find it hard to seperate out your questions for clear and direct answers, but I'll try. if SNLs aren't your thing When I said SNL were never part of the gameplan I was referring to how in the original FMAC model and the following FOAQRCS model, it wasn't really expected you'd have sex on the same night; I mean we knew we were getting somewhere but those last few steps were still a mystery. We also knew it was a 7 hour thing, but expected it to happen on the…
/r/seduction21/09/11 06:57 AM
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That's totally cool and you can say that. But the premise of the OP and the recurring meme is: you need to dress for success. Here's an example, two guys go out with the same skills and dressed the same. One guy knows nothing about dressing properly. He's going to have success in direct relation to his skillset. The other guy has heard you have to dress properly. He should have success in direct relation to his skillset, but all night it's going to be in his head: am I dressed right, because thi…
/r/seduction21/09/11 06:21 AM
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I was trying to avoid saying this, but you've made me do it now. Alpha is bullshit. Sorry to break it to you. And no offence to Badboy and his group of talented guys; though I think what they really teach goes way beyond the "Be Alpha" marketing. What I see here is a guy with no options and no control over his life screaming in the wind, "I defy you nature! I'm going to set terms and conditions on the exact time and place I will ever meet anyone, and if they don't meet those exact conditions, th…
/r/seduction21/09/11 05:51 AM
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You probably talk to random people all the time without realising it (at work, at the shops, if you bumped into someone by accident, or saw someone drop something, etc). It's just that you're in situations where it's acceptable and ignored, and you keep it short. The idea that someone can strike up the same conversation in other places, or for longer periods of time, that's the loophole. And that's all it is, a loophole in how things work. Not that I expect that to change you or anything. Women …
/r/seduction21/09/11 05:02 AM
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That's a great thing to have, and if you have it, you shouldn't be susceptible to a meme that says you need to have it in order to be successful. Action and incremental success breeds confidence. A meme saying you are missing inner game, and need inner game, and there's no way to get it until you know you have it, is like the complete opposite. The way out, like a chinese finger puzzle, is saying, "I don't need this." Then you have confidence. Edit: Didn't mean to repeat myself, Reddit double-po…
/r/seduction21/09/11 04:31 AM
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