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Yeah that statement had the same logic as blaming all women because some of them drown their own kids in bathtubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:12 PM
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Attractive people have lots of success dating. People ask them what their secret is and they respond "just be yourself." That's where that myth comes from. If you want to accomplish anything challenging in life, you have to conform to what works. No one would tell you to learn sailing by "being yourself" or "being the most sailor version of yourself." Literally no challenge (learning: math, how to ride a motorcycle, investing, programming, whatever) suggests "being yourself" is a successful stra…
/r/seduction26/05/24 09:03 AM
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This conversation is like fisherman trying to convince fish that using nets is more effective the rod and lure. Fucking hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 03:28 AM
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There’s two things going on here. One, people upset about “defeatism” are talking to you but really they're stating their opinion in order to reinforce their beliefs to themselves. Some people need to believe they are in control and defeatism challenges that. Two, men complaining is universally unattractive. Complaining is a behavior for women and children to illicit help from men. A man doing it is a man acting like a child or a woman. Throughout human history, it made sense for strong men to b…
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 08:22 AM
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The hilarious thing about your argument is that the reason gay sex is so easily available is because there's no women involved to gatekeep it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:50 AM
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I'd garantee men are not gossiping about greg fucking a filipina. Labeling men passport bros has insecure women written all over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 07:27 AM
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Unfortunately those women are going to get slapped down some. Men aren’t obligated to be a gentle practice field for women who make us feel uncomfortable or unsafe. See how when you reverse the genders, this shit sounds really awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:09 AM
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Why is there an identity associated with traveling and fucking people? Who the fuck cares about consenting adults fucking over here or over there? Are women feeling inadequate because some dude got laid in Thailand?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:07 AM
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It matters more what she looks like. If she can look fit without doing much, I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:04 AM
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Look the other posters are right that you're focused on the negatives. But yeah, don't get married. That said, let the good in with the bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:03 AM
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I'd kick 4 year old Mike Tysons ass.
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 05:25 AM
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There's no specific strategy for competing directly with younger women. Common thing I've noticed with older women vs younger is bitterness, demanding/entitlement, jaded/disinterest, having kids, being physically out of shape, promoting themselves by things they admire in men like talking about having a good career and high education and confidence (nothing wrong with these things but they don't make you sexy). This isn't an absolute thing, its just something I've noticed frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 05:21 AM
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Using celebrities as examples for average dating is like using olympic records as metrics for elementary school playgrounds.
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 04:55 AM
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Anything that conveys there's something genetically wrong with you is a red flag for a woman. Late bloomer means you were ugly and now you're not. That's way riskier than a guy who was never ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 04:52 AM
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Women don't like the idea of competing against younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 04:51 AM
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You pay cash or you pay by improving yourself so that you're better than other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 04:13 AM
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I can't imagine drawing this shit with a straight face. I can't imagine reading it and trying to draw conclusions about reality from it.
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 03:49 AM
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Don't poll reddit man. Look outside. Do you see short men of any race walking around with hot women? You want real advice, find a job that's mostly women and work with them. You'll learn far more than what reddit will tell you.
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 03:43 AM
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I have no idea what this information is trying to convey to me but I fully endorse it.
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 02:59 AM
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https://beardstyle.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/bad-beard.jpg
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 02:58 AM
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The fucked up thing is that when you finally find success and fuck a girl, you realize it provides a high that is lower than eating McDonalds. So not only is it tremendously difficult, it's also tremendously unsatisfying.
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 02:54 AM
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underrated comment
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 02:52 AM
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I don't think the right call is to be mad at women for wanting the best genetics for their future kids and a man (maybe even a step-dad if he's that stupid) to provide for those kids. Its just genetically logical to pursue that strategy. Clearly a 15 inch dick is better genetics.
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 02:48 AM
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This shit is so silly. Power, resources, genetics matter. Being white doesn't mean shit unless you're out-competing other men. That means projecting more power, having more resources and having a body/face that is more attractive. You can argue reasonably that white men have had a huge advantage in power/resources in America but you can't flat out say that every white man has an advantage over every black man. There is a fuck ton of white men out there getting zero action.
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 02:42 AM
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If you just love each other and enjoy the sex, the man is gonna want it more. If the woman is actually very sexually attracted to the man instead of just love/enjoying the sex, she'll want it more than him and he'll start to feel the coolidge effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 02:38 AM
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Chihuahuas act terribly and it's tolerated because they're not viewed as a real threat. When a pitbull bites, people want to ban the breed. Because women are perceived as harmless, they get away with shit. Men are not perceived as harmless, they don't get away with shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 02:24 AM
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Older women don't get approached for relationships like they used to so they have to put themselves out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 02:20 AM
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Women desire power. Nice projects weakness. If you're a leader and nice as a secondary trait, that's fine. But if you're just nice, you're weak and that's unattractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 02:18 AM
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Yeah, 1st world problems. Everyone is spoiled as fuck. Men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 02:16 AM
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Agreed. Low sex drive is a medical diagnosis. A healthy human desires sex. If you don't, no judgement here, but that's unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 02:15 AM
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Men don't always pay for sex. I've had a woman drive 2 hours just to give head. But if you're not out competing other men, you're not getting quality sex/attention from women. In that sense, you're paying metaphorically for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 02:13 AM
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Go find a man you're attracted to, pay for his meal and then have him tell you he doesn't find you attractive and report back here with your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 02:11 AM
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It's only some women that get that high sex drive and it's not always only directed at one man. If you actually get the chance to spend time around a guy who is high status, watch how women react to him. All these conversations point out shit without identifying the simple truth behind it. Women's attraction towards men is based on competition. Men who out-compete other men in looks, money, and power(status/pre-selection/leadership/etc) cause women to get hungry for sex in the way that men feel …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 02:06 AM
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A woman that says that is the XX version of the man who says all women are stupid. There's a lot of people in general that you're better off not spending time with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 01:52 AM
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You're right that not escalating is a problem for some men. Also sometimes women turn down escalation at first and if you're unaffected and unattached to the outcome, they'll be open if you try again later. Women definitely do not like you persisting to try or you getting emotional about it. It's almost a form of shit test sometimes. Men do it to women too sometimes. Playful, subtle form of rejection to see if she has a meltdown or not. She passes that test and she's definitely a winner. If she …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 01:50 AM
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This is like saying: people learning to drive a manual transmission stall out sometimes. Definitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 01:01 AM
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100% being honest right now, I think women have a hard time reigning in their ego when it comes to debating shit. It's as if theoretical conversations are opportunities to convey how great they are as people and morally superior. It's so rare to see a woman say "hey you know what, you made a good point right there, I'm kind of shitty sometimes." A lot of guys have the same problem but I've met way more men who can take a hit to the ego than women. How often do you meet self-deprecating women? Ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 12:38 AM
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Video games target men. Men care about competition and completing tasks and working towards goals. Women tend to care more about connections, building relationships, and having experiences. Also there are a lot of women that are repulsed by the imaginary. They like men who are capable of stuff in reality. Men who participate in imaginary stuff appear weak in comparison.
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 11:54 PM
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Never expect a woman to be agreeable on shit that challenges her ego. When a man goes overseas and has a great time with a foreign woman and compares it to a shitty experience with western women, those western women are gonna make up terms like "passport bro" and throw a fit. You're challenging their ego. You're saying they're not good enough. The same shit happens when a man dates a younger woman. Women freak out cause the underlying statement is that she is worse because shes old. She'll frame…
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 11:48 PM
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When you realize women fuck power it all makes sense. Those guys you mention project power, specially in the presence of these women. Power is like a drug for women, they fucking love it. Men don't understand because it does nothing for our sex drive. Not endorsing it but next time it seems confusing why a woman is choosing a man, ask yourself "does this woman view this man as powerful?"
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 06:03 AM
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This is delusional as fuck. Anyone making money from masturbating on webcam in their room and complaining that it's not fun or a first choice can fuck off. Go work some really shitty jobs and come back and complain about jerking off for an hour a day on camera.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 07:04 PM
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Men in power act poorly. So do women. Woman yield more power in the dating scene, some of them act poorly and it causes a lot of outrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:33 PM
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Humans don't like a sense of unfairness. If something appears unfair, it triggers anger. Logic has nothing to do with it. If someone is pissed, ask yourself if the situation appears unfair to them. That's probably why they're pissed.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 05:26 PM
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They still aren't sharing those dudes. At least not enough to maintain the population. South Korea has a massive problem with young women staying single. They aren't all getting impregnated by the top boy band there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:05 AM
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lol. I guess it depends. But if getting laid is all the virgin cares about, he can learn about a betabux.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 12:04 AM
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Women in groups act different than a woman alone. Also, women love puppies but they don't want to fuck them. Women love flamboyant gay men, they dont want to fuck them. Just cause a woman likes something doesn't mean she wants to fuck it.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 12:03 AM
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I was depressed in my teens. I lost my virginity around the same time as I started exercising. The exercise saved me, not the validation from women.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 12:00 AM
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I like a woman who is kind and has compassion. Seeing you sing that shit conveys the opposite. Maybe its just for fun but if I don't know the person, it's easy to assume shes not my type.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 11:59 PM
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No man it's true that super powerful, super wealthy, super entertaining men can get laid despite below average looks. They just have to be exceptionally better than other men in those other ways. That said, don't pursue fame just for some ass cause holy shit is it not worth it.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 11:53 PM
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If I was a virgin at 30, I'd find a guy who was a virgin until 30 or late 20s and ask him what he did to turn it around. Cause you're right that a dude that was slaying since he was 12 probably isn't going to have practical advice.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 11:50 PM
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What percentage of that 60% still married is sexless or miserable?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:14 PM
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I would look at the history of breeding specific behaviors in dogs. How many generations to get herding behavior? Then look at dogs being able to create a new generation every year versus 20 on average for humans. Getting enough women to be sexually attracted to men that are inferior in just about every way within a societies norms would take a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:13 PM
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Those women have the balls to sleep with men early and often. They are intolerable to be around long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:51 PM
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Sexual dimorphism is subtle but it exists in humans. This wouldn't have happened if men and women had the same expectations of each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:50 PM
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You could argue its happening right now with women out-competing men in in Universities. The more that traditional roles for men are disposed, the higher the suicide rate will go and the less relationships we'll see. Eventually you would see evolution favor whoever is still fucking but that would take a very long time and the population would drop massively before that has an effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:46 PM
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Yeah 50% divorce rate not making that the bulletproof strategy your making it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:43 PM
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It's not either or. People desired by many will always do better than the ones who are desired by one. This is like saying is it better to be good enough to win one race or many. It's better to be able to win many races cause you can always choose to win one and retire anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:41 PM
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You sound like the men you hate but as the opposite gender. "Baby trapping [MEN] is integral for their entire position since they know they are too dumb and greedy to be loved without trying to trick someone. " Change women to men in that sentence and that is the exact kind of shit angry men say about women. Redpill is right about appearance mattering, it's right about women being attracted to masculine men with frame, it's right about the bullshit tactics women use with men like shit-testing an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:22 PM
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Probably cause those dudes desire one. The intentions of happily married people tend to skew towards drama and inflating their ego by providing poor advice in order to sound holier-than-thou.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:11 PM
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Some women are bitter towards men and struggle to date, what else should I label them but un-fuckable man-haters? I guess I could think of them as people and not say weird shit like that. There is plenty to debate without happily married people sharing a perspective with zero skin in the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:00 PM
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I value good advice. I don't value advice from people who barely dated and are now married pushing bluepill nonsense. So much advice from married older people conveys a complete lack of greater understanding of the social dynamics underlying dating and sex. They fumbled around until they inadvertently ended up married and then they think highly of themselves and tell people to be themselves and wait like they did. That is horseshit compared to men who initially sucked at dating, did it a lot, gl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:57 PM
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People who date well have a ton of options to marry. Those people should give advice. There are an absolute fuck ton of married people who don't know a goddamn thing except their one anecdote. They give bad advice, they present a poor example to their kids, and still they think they have something to offer. If married people gave great advice, everyone would have it on tap from their parents. Yet we're facing a massive wave of youth not dating or having sex. Strange. It's almost as if dating is …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:52 PM
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If you end up in jail because of RP, I don't forsee you ever having much luck in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:38 PM
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If you're married, your head is in that game. I don't want to learn tennis from a man whose mind is on chess. If an incel goes on a date and shares his disaster in detail, I'll glean more from that than a man talking about dating his wife 4 years ago through the lens of his current life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:36 PM
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Yep but only to people in relationships or marriages, not to people dating. When you're doing an activity, you need your head in the game. You can't play tennis while thinking about chess. Married people are biased and their advice for people dating is too often garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:33 PM
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You can probably label anything that is politically incorrect redpill whereas bluepill is anything widely accepted and socially acceptable regarding dating, sex, and gender issues. The problem for young men is that sex and dating is competitive. It's nature, it's war. Men who don't adhere to PG13 societal norms have found ways to be more successful in dating. People don't like that cause it often hurts peoples feelings and it goes against the narratives that Disney pushes, the stuff that make pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:32 PM
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That's not the primary point. The point is married men are as useless a perspective as incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:24 PM
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Nah, I'm going to continue to ask them to stop adding poorly thought out perspectives that serves to just further confuse people. Married people giving single people bad advice is as bad as homeowners voting down new construction in their neighborhoods and then offering thoughts and prayers. Stop sharing bad advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:20 PM
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If you're pushing advice that gives people what they want, it'll work. If you're pushing a narrative and attempting to convince people with data, it's not going to work because young men will continue to suffer. Bluepill nonsense is not new, it's default, its pushed in every TV show kids watch. If that shit isn't working, then backing it by studies isn't convincing anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:17 PM
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Low sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:15 PM
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This is over complicated. Women's attraction is based on competition. It's a race and the top men win. Men have a hard time understanding this because their minds don't work the same way. But they can understand how a race works. Most men lose and a few get the top positions. That's what attracts women. Sure, not every woman can lock down the guy who won and she chooses a man who she feels more secure in but he still needs to beat other men out to generate attraction. It makes sense from an evol…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:12 PM
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There we go. That's real.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:04 PM
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Show me the purplepill thread advocating for abortion rights being taken away
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:03 PM
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Or do you want to project your fantasy of reality on people?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:03 PM
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Unless they're a dating couch, that sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:02 PM
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That would be good advice if community existed anymore. Digital entertainment has won that battle. There are some groups that do sports/hiking/etc that still exist but its sad that the social world has been crumbling.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:02 PM
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Neither are most people who got married.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:00 PM
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Yeah both those guys give shit advice. I'd rather get advice from a man who is landing multiples dates a week without trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:00 PM
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I'm not debating that. I'm saying horseshit advice from biased people who have nothing to offer would be better off not being posted. And I'd venture to guess that people trying to understand what really happens between men and women would prefer reality over bluepill nonsense too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:59 PM
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No, I'd prefer more experienced single people. Or if they're married, the ones who were absolutely killing it dating lots of people before they were married and have a perspective that isn't warped by their current relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:51 PM
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See this is terrible advice. Women hate men caught up in fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:50 PM
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Because they give terrible advice and I can't for the life of me understand what they are getting out of it. You have a spouse. If you're having trouble go to a marriage sub. If you're not having trouble, why are you trying to participate in the drama going on between other men and women dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:50 PM
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Yeah I guess but they really are young and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:45 PM
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Read. Don't offer insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:41 PM
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-health-sex/young-u-s-men-having-a-lot-less-sex-in-the-21st-century-study-shows-idUSKBN23J2LI This is like talking to baby boomers about housing and they're surprised why no one is able to afford a home.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:40 PM
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I want men who date often and date well right now to talk about what they see. I don't care what a dude on a couch with his wife has to say about dating. He's not feeling it, he's not experiencing. If he was exceptional in his day, maybe he's got something of value to say but otherwise his current situation is going to bias his perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:37 PM
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I'd argue some men got "lucky" and found themselves in a situation where they inadvertently out-competed the other men in a woman's life. He goes on to believe Disney horseshit about reality because his appeared to be that way. There's nothing wrong with that until he tries to give advice. I don't want advice from a guy who won a scratch off lottery ticket. I want one who knows the game and plays it well. And I want to know he's still doing it and it's not based off memory from 2007.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:32 PM
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You didn't prove your point. The sub provides advice, indirectly or not. And mine still remains. Married perspectives spouting Disney bluepill nonsense is providing nothing of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:29 PM
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Jesus you better have something more to offer than bluepill horseshit then. The shit advice being spouted at young men is like rich men shouting at homeless people to get a job. People are suffering and terrible people are manipulating them by having something to offer or at least appearing to. The bluepill disney shit needs to be abandoned in favor of a more reality based perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:26 PM
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You're a hero only in your own mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:21 PM
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Again, if you want dating advise, talk to people with lots of experience and who are actively dating. Jumping into marriage is why 50% of marriages end in divorce and why even among the 50% that stay together, damn near everyone knows a married couple who fucking hate their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:20 PM
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Those views are dumb but why are you doing this if you're happily married? Who gives a shit what an idiot blackpiller thinks? If you were dating and debating things to gain perspective to help yourself, that would make sense to me but coming here to control the narrative of people involved in shit that has zero effect on your life is fucking weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:17 PM
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It is though. It's one of the few places on reddit where people debate controversial stuff. And that's where you can actually get advice that gives you an advantage in the real world. The only problem is there is so much garbage perspectives that offer nothing of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:13 PM
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It depends if they were highly desirable or not. But even then, a lot of them are not in the game. Being a man who is attracting women and killing it in the dating scene is of a different perspective than a man who has one woman waiting for him every night regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:11 PM
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Batman, the clowns aren't interested in bluepill horseshit. Make a better offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:10 PM
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Unhappy single people should not be giving advice. Neither should married people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:07 PM
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Truly married people seem awful for the most part. SO much divorce and everyone knows out of the 50% that don't get divorced many are miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:06 PM
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There's two men. One goes on a few dates and ends up with a woman and marries her. The other goes on many dates with many women, successfully attracts them, is able to explore compatibility and really decide if that person is right for them. One of those men had options and the other got whatever random woman happened t connect with him at that time. Women don't understand this perspective because they have so many options to choose from. A man has to create options. He has to learn how to attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:05 PM
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That's not bad advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:01 PM
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This is the problem. People loading up all kinds of terrible advise and young people getting overwhelmed with shit advice from married people. Give them just the good stuff from people actively doing the thing they want to be doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:00 PM
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I've put my retarded spelling all over the thread. It's too late for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:59 PM
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They have active knowledge and experience on marriage. Dating isn't something they are undergoing anymore. They aren't the same. I want to hear from a man landing dates this week, not someone who got a date 5 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:59 PM
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Dating women from a mans perspective is a specific experience that requires specific skills/knowledge. Aside from trial and error, you learn this stuff from men who have lots of experience. Women know zero about this. You haven't spent a second of your life as a man. I don't see why this is so confusing. You would never say that men know what its like to be a woman and accept advise from a man on how to be a woman, don't make the same mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:55 PM
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Nah that's biased as hell. Dating successfully means you are skilled at dating. Getting into a long term relationship is related but different. I'll take advise from someone who has dated many people and generated a lot of interest over advise from someone who dated one person and got married. That second person is going to have worthless advise compared to the first one. Specially if the advise is coming from a man. I want the man who had been on a 100 dates and had sex with many women. FUCK th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:50 PM
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Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:46 PM
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And there's nothing wrong as long you recognize your perspective is different and don't attempt give out lame advise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:43 PM
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Stick to giving advise to women. I can't imagine how stupid I would sound going into a twoxchromosomes thread and sharing advise to a rape victim. Yet you think you can provide something of value to men regarding a topic you have zero experience in. You don't date women as a man, you do not understand that perspective. You understand the other side of that interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:43 PM
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Advise from people who are actively dating is wise. Advice from married people is as useless as incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:40 PM
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And thats fine so long as each thread is focused. The problem I'm seeing is that married perspectives are intermingling with dating perspectives and its not congruent. It's like rural vs urban perspectives being shared on the same topic and causing lots of confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:39 PM
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It resulted in young men having far less sex. So it objectively did change the dynamic. Biology hasn't changed but interactions have. Validation has changed. Power dynamics has changed. Wealth distribution has changed. And I'm not arguing that its all changed for the worse. But people aren't interacting with each other the same way they were before the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:38 PM
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People on purplepill are debating taking things from you by force?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:34 PM
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If your debate produces nothing of enough value that someone could glean advise from it, holy shit that is some worthless debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:33 PM
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Grow up is useless advice. Validate the frustration and ask them whats next? Accept and do what you can...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:28 PM
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There needs to be a marriedpurplepilldebate. This shit is so different and it would be fine if married people stuck to marriage posts and dating people stuck to dating ones but intermingling it is such a waste of everyones time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:26 PM
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There are married couples everywhere, why aren't you "happily" taking advice from them right now? I'm point out that these people are coming onto a forum to feed their ego and that wouldn't be as much of a problem if they were actually giving good advice but so often it's bluepill nonsense coming from a biased perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:24 PM
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If it's good advice they're turning down that's on them. If it's horseshit advice from a 40 year old married woman to a 20 year old single man, jesus it sucks inexperienced people have to wade through so much misinformation to find something actionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:19 PM
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It's debate for a reason. To learn and apply things. Thats advice. See this is the problem. Some people are coming here to debate in a mindless masturbation exercise. Debate means "say stupid shit for reactions" to some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:17 PM
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If you want advice, talk to someone who is actively dating successfully. Someone married is not in the same mindset and dating is a memory. Marriage and active dating are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:15 PM
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You really don't want to know. A lot of older people have homes and they just can't understand why young people are frustrated with real estate. To truly understand it, they would have to donate their home, try to save up a downpayment and attempt to pay a mortgage at 8% right now. No one is going to put themselves through that. Similarly no one is going to truly put themselves in the shoes of a young, average man in this age and undergo how valueless they are to society and women. You might ima…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:13 PM
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I agree that some frustrated men post negative/hateful shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:10 PM
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Do you have examples of what you know from experience that a young person here wouldn't know?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:06 PM
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The advice women give each other sounds insane to me too. I'm not a woman so I don't relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:03 PM
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blue pill/red pill are about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:02 PM
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Always more money to be made. Not sure what more your getting out of person you've spend 10 years with by applying more purplepill shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:01 PM
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How are you doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:00 PM
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Keep that ego inflated.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:00 PM
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Not in the same way as young people dating, no. Go behave as if your married while on dates and see how that works out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:59 PM
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Not just how they meet but also how they interact. People used to get entertainment from eachother and it's transitioned to social media/netflix/etc. Young people aren't interacting as much in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:59 PM
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You're not in a dating mindset. You're married and it's biasing your viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:57 PM
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You're not special. This "oh look how wise I am" shit makes you look like you're overcompensating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:55 PM
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Yeah they're too busy actively undergoing all the same shit your foggy memory is trying to regurgitate. Married people pretending they are wise and wearing their marriage as a title is worthless. Someone who is incompetent but relaying an experience they had today approaching someone new and processing it here on this forum is far more valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:54 PM
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If it's providing actionable advise that works, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:52 PM
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Jesus that sounds accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:50 PM
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I think your mindset in a relationship is so far removed from the mindset involved in dating that your advise tends to be bluepilled/biased/terrible. Specially married women giving advice to single men has got to be the most ridiculous shit I've ever seen. I'd equate it to men giving women advise on dealing with periods.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:49 PM
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If someone is fucking up and refusing to learn/fix it, yeah I get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:47 PM
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I definitely understand getting a reality check when you catch yourself getting comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:45 PM
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Seriously. You're not going from virgin to married forever. Go out there and do whatever to get experience and then you can settle down. For fucks sake, if stating your a virgin is keeping you a virgin, stop doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:43 PM
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Bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:39 PM
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There is no person out there who is unaware of a couple. You're not setting an example. Can you point to a comment you have made that has helped women or men take some sort of action?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:35 PM
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So you enjoy laughing at people who have it worse than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:33 PM
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I for one don't give a shit what you're doing with your life so if you can point out the ideas/misconceptions that are leading to your life being politically impossible that would be interesting,
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:28 PM
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This is my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:27 PM
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It's gender dynamics in relation to dating. No one applies bluebill/redpill to their opposite gender coworker. Are you having relationship issues and attempting to fix them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:27 PM
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I like that people have socially unacceptable takes here. Most of reddit is censored so bad its like only existing in a PG rated reality. I don't like naive takes on sex and dating from people who have been married 30 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:25 PM
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Is what they offer useful to anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:23 PM
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So long as the arguments aren't incredibly weak. This is like people coming on a chess forum with checkers advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:23 PM
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Debate is good so long as its coming from someone with valuable insight. Someone who has been sitting on the couch with their spouse for the last 15 years is going to have a very biased/useless perspective on dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:22 PM
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If men could make easy money doing that shit, they would. It's not available to them. If there was a lucrative career that average men could participate in and that women couldn't participate in, they'd probably be pissed too.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 06:09 PM
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So if some people are here just to argue and participate in the drama, wouldn't that be less valuable compared to the people here genuinely trying to gain some sort of actionable knowledge to improve their dating life?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:07 PM
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An association of women as being the underdogs vs men. When there's a perceived power imbalance, it's socially acceptable to treat people unfairly. For example, people will wish a politician was dead and no one cares. If the same thing was said about a defenseless child, people would be calling the cops. It's ok to roast a powerful person and its not ok to roast a weak person. The problem is that women aren't the underdogs anymore, they're just perceived that way. So the unfair treatment remains…
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 06:02 PM
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It's unfair. Women have an advantage in dating. Yeah people gaslight you into thinking its not true but so what. An example of unfairness in the other direction is that men are stronger than women on average. The average woman will never get to physically compete in sports against a man. I'm not equating them but I'm using it as an example to illustrate that you have to recognize it and move beyond it cause nothing is going to change it. You complaining about women having an advantage in dating …
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 05:50 PM
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Titles and reputation are signals of power but the truth is that some people have an intensity to them. They look you in the eye and make you want to agree with whatever they’re saying or doing. More simplified, some people lead and some people follow in any given situation. Men that lead attract more women. They know what they want and they pursue it and allow others to come along for the ride. If you’re not a natural leader, it’s challenging to understand but it can be learned. If you observe …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:36 PM
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The dudes prioritizing it are most likely starved for validation or coming from a place of neediness. If they succeed, they'll realize banging lots of women doesn't bring happiness. So in a way, I agree with you but I'd argue the journey of learning about women and fucking up and then succeeding and realizing they aren't everything is important. I can't imagine a dude never taking the time to learn what women want, doing his own shit focused on what's popular in today's world: social media, vide…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:50 AM
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It makes sense when you realize that the scale is applied to the 15 or so guys she actually spends any considerable amount of time with in real life. You're a 7 hot and a 3 useless compared to the other 15 dudes in her life. Where it gets fucked up is when you try to use a dating app and are competing against the top dudes in a pool of 50,000 or something. Then you're fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:36 AM
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You're doing an excellent job creating high quality time with those women. I guarantee they value time spent with you MUCH higher than the men shes making wait. And they probably wouldn't need more than a minute to warm up to her celebrity musician backstage. I get what you're saying that women making men wait is often due to a lack of attraction and I agree. But fact is men would be willing to fuck a beautiful, young woman at first sight and a majority of women need more time than that to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:34 AM
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Top 10%. Unless you're brilliant and it comes easy, women aren't worth that kind of struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:22 AM
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Yeah it happens. But it won't happen to average men. And it certainly isn't a useful tactic for average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:21 AM
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Lots of dudes have zero experience with women and have no idea what they want. Understanding basics like the above is important. Specially when women gaslight the shit out of men and act like women don't fawn over the shit I pointed out. It's a strawman argument to say that someone here is prioritizing their entire life over sleeping with women. Only an idiot wouldn't realize that lifestyle sucks once they manage to succeed at any rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:19 AM
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Women are repulsed by submissive men. Women fawn over political leaders, celebrities, and corporate leaders. If your a man who wants to attract women and you're deciding whether or not to develop leadership skills, it's best to follow in the footsteps of what works instead of believing nonsense like what you just wrote. You can create a strawman of a domineering asshole that women hate but that does not distract from the reality that submissive men are repulsive and men who lead attract vastly m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:16 AM
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How is the hot/useless axis about women's flaws? It's pointing out how valueless most men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:11 AM
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The thing is, this shit occurs with 15 random dudes a woman knows in her real life at any given time. She has 5 male co-workers, a few friends, maybe some acquaintances, a guy she met at a bar. If you put those guys on the chart with their looks, leadership skills, displays of wealth, and the time/interactions she has with them, it all kind of comes together in a less dramatic way. Out of the 15 guys a woman actually spends any real time with, she's gonna choose the one who is hottest, most powe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:09 AM
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I'd say it's generally accurate but in any given environment there's only a few people involved and you don't see such wild extremes.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 12:48 AM
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I'd argue the guys below the line aren't feeling dehumanized
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 12:41 AM
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I love that you see this chart that says that 80% of men are valueless and see it as dehumanizing women.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 12:31 AM
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I don't know how this post led to this but here is the Hot Useless Matrix: https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/14pxktt/the_hot_useless_matrix/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:32 PM
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Yeah lots of free time today. I made another post, upvote it. https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/14pxktt/the_hot_useless_matrix/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:31 PM
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From the beginning, I stated those 2 things were important to women. But it's toxic and creepy to demand it. From a mans perspective, a woman with an attractive personality and body is a better choice than one with lots of free time and an average salary. Men aren't looking for women's time and money. So it's not a universal "basic adulting." Up until 70 years ago, women weren't expected to even earn a wage. Quality time and money are important to women. The better the quality and the more money…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:28 PM
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How many women are offered the opportunity to marry a 89 year old billionaire? I would guess a lot of women would at least consider it. I don't think that dude would have to wait forever to find someone else if Nicole said no. Look at hugh hefner. Young women dated him til he died. Not for his looks...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:13 PM
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A man who talks like you would sound like this: "It's a basic requirement for women to lose weight and behave in a feminine manner. I expect women to do these things for me when I'm in a relationship with them." There's nothing wrong with having preferences and only accepting those preferences but using language like "basic" "expect" and "requirement" is where you're going wrong. You sound just as creepy as the example I just gave.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:06 PM
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There's stronger highs than oxytocin. Look at what drug addicts are willing to put up with living on the streets of Philadelphia and tell me love is more powerful than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 10:45 PM
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Anna Nicole Smith married a 89 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 10:44 PM
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You're wrong if you're trying to suggest that quality time and signals of wealth don't attract women. You're downplaying it as basic and expected. Time and money is anything but basic and you don't deserve anything from a man. He can choose to provide it to you or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 10:42 PM
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Like this https://i.imgur.com/u82iuSO.png
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 10:29 PM
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What do you EXPECT a stranger is gaining from reading this comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 09:20 PM
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It doesn't work if you use it to the extreme. I think it helps men who get too excited by wanting to fuck a hot girl they just met. Makes them slow down and get more on the timeline that women operate on. Acting excited and over eager doesn't work on anyone so holding back a little works for guys who excite easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 09:18 PM
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That's hilarious. I don't really know how you would draw the line though because there are some super powerful, super ugly men out there that still manage to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 09:15 PM
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Does he ever convey leadership around you? Convey ideas and follow through? Does he fix anything around the house or go shopping and bring home things you need? If he doesn't do those things, do you wish he did? Conveying power and resources doesn't mean being Bill Gates, it means showing a woman that you are capable and can provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 08:49 PM
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I'd argue that falls under the emotional connection/quality time point already made. You're not going to establish emotional connection/quality time with someone incompatible. You're basically describing a man who has 3 out of the 4 things I listed. He's powerful, handsome, rich and an asshole. Yeah, once again, I agree with you that's not going to work out. But if you add quality time/emotional connection, that means compatible, otherwise how are you enjoying yourself with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 08:43 PM
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I was hoping someone would bring this up. I would argue that any man who is successfully attracting a woman is conveying those 4 things. And the truth is that humans aren't ants, they're more complex. So there is a lot of variety in what makes a man appear powerful, genetically gifted, resourceful. Also quality time with a woman varies. Women enjoy different activities, etc. Can you find a woman who wants a weak, genetically frail, poor man and has a fetish for jumping into sex without quality t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 08:39 PM
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The part they are missing is that the woman isn't attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 08:33 PM
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If you spend time with a woman without leading it anywhere, the window of opportunity shuts, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 08:30 PM
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Quality time produces an emotional connection so long as it's with someone you are attracted to. We're not in disagreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 08:28 PM
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Does attention create attraction or is it something women want after they are already attracted to a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 08:25 PM
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I'd argue that power is just as important. I've actually seen overweight, short men having affairs because they conveyed power. It's best if you have both covered but these things have to be learned and boys aren't all taught to hit the gym and learn leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 08:23 PM
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You're describing time without leadership. If you're not leading then yeah, all the time in the world doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 08:22 PM
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We're using different words to mean the same thing. I said time. You say emotional connection. We both mean exactly what you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 08:21 PM
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