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But the fact that there's like 3 men only shelters in the world means nothing right? Why not just make your point instead of putting it back on me when I’ve said nothing of the sort? This man still wouldn’t stay in a shelter, but if you need to win this one so bad that you’re moving the goalposts, be my guest, I don’t care. Maybe MRAs should do something to get shelters started for the men who do need them.
/r/MensRights05/07/18 08:05 PM
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No need for the condescending “101”. I’m responding to the title which states that we need shelters in every country because international travelers might need them. That is not a strong argument to warrant the need. We need shelters for local communities, for people who are not safe in their homes and don’t have access to other resources, not to cater to a minuscule number of wealthy international travelers who would need this and actually go to them.
/r/MensRights05/07/18 05:23 PM
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I mean, if that’s the only option, sure. I just don’t think anyone who is in a position to travel the world would ever actually go stay in a shelter.
/r/MensRights05/07/18 03:37 AM
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We need shelters where there is a need for them. People who can afford international travel can stay in a hotel.
/r/MensRights04/07/18 07:39 PM
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Every post has a false accusation flair and slew of confirmation bias in the comments.
/r/MensRights26/06/18 08:27 PM
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I just fucking wish you women would admit that "its not sexual harassment if he's hot to me” And I just fucking wish men would stop making these comparisons. Flirting or asking out a co-worker isn’t harassment. Refusing to take no for an answer is. You are comparing someone who has received a no to someone who has not. I work in a male-dominated career, in a role that requires me to work closely with 2 disciplines that attract very different personalities. The first group is more likely to conta…
/r/MensRights26/06/18 08:25 PM
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That is untrue. An acquittal means it can not be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
/r/MensRights26/06/18 06:11 PM
-16

As a mod, do you condone this sub’s position that every rape accusation is a false one? Would you make the same “math is hard” remark if the accuser had been male and the case was acquitted?
/r/MensRights26/06/18 04:23 PM
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Hey why don’t you talk to the women in your life about their experiences, try setting aside your biases against women and apply critical thinking towards the actual accusations instead of dismissing all women as hysterical and out for revenge because someone touches their arm, and acknowledge that a large number of the accused men have admitted and apologized. The men in positions of power who treat others like garbage are scared because things are changing and they are losing the control they h…
/r/MensRights26/06/18 04:16 PM
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It’s much easier to call something a witchhunt than to actually believe that women deal with this shit every day. If this sub would quit automatically dismissing everything a woman says as a false accusation maybe it wouldn’t feel like such an epidemic.
/r/MensRights26/06/18 04:02 PM
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This is paranoid and false
/r/MensRights26/06/18 03:57 PM
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Once again, acquittals do not equal false accusations. This sub’s belief that all women are liars is going to get you called out in the media, and rightfully so.
/r/MensRights26/06/18 03:34 PM
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If people in leadership roles can not handle mentorship, they need to be replaced with someone more competent. Women should not have to accept sexism as a cost of doing business, whether in the form of harassment or limited opportunities. These stories do nothing but make men look insecure, irrational and sexist. Most men are perfectly capable of working with women without harassing anyone and it’s insulting to suggest otherwise. People who can’t handle human interaction appropriately should not…
/r/MensRights26/06/18 03:27 PM
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Huh? This isn’t discrimination. What did you want to see in this article that you didn’t?
/r/MensRights26/06/18 12:43 PM
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Obama :)
/r/MensRights26/06/18 01:42 AM
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It actually wasn’t inspiring enough that I remember what I specifically responded to now, she was just much more relatable. (I was also in shock) I just remember wishing she could have pulled some of that out earlier. I do think it’s difficult to manage a woman’s campaign - she has to be relatable but also strong, but not too strong, not too vulnerable. That’s just how it goes. Hillary didn’t get it right. Michelle’s DNC speech on the other hand, destroyed every other speech I’ve ever seen. If y…
/r/MensRights26/06/18 01:30 AM
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It is absolutely not true that when a woman is raped the rapist is put behind bars for life.
/r/MensRights26/06/18 01:09 AM
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True, was just my initial takeaway from the graph. I have a ton of friends more politically-intellectual than I who were die-hard Hillary, but I didn’t find her particularly inspiring until I watched her concession speech :/
/r/MensRights26/06/18 01:02 AM
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Having no evidence vs. not having enough evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt are two different things. But you knew that.
/r/MensRights25/06/18 09:15 PM
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It matters if half the voter base is unwilling to vote for a woman.
/r/MensRights25/06/18 09:11 PM
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Is that not what happened here? If there was no standard of evidence, these cases would be found guilty, not acquitted.
/r/MensRights25/06/18 09:04 PM
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Can we have some standards for what we call false accusations? For instance, evidence of a false accusation?
/r/MensRights25/06/18 08:52 PM
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Do you mean to tell me that a random article published a week ago on an irrelevant site doesn’t rank higher than a tv show with a similar name and a huge advertising budget? What’s next??!!?!!
/r/MensRights25/06/18 05:57 PM
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I think we need some more flairs. I can never tell if we’re going by the “anything an asshole does” definition of feminism or the “any woman with an opinion” definition.
/r/MensRights25/06/18 02:29 PM
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OP, what’s your take on this? I’m struggling to know what to make of it.
/r/MensRights25/06/18 03:00 AM
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This all aligns with the research I’ve done.
/r/MensRights25/06/18 02:36 AM
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Ok, thanks.
/r/MensRights25/06/18 02:16 AM
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What vibe did you get?
/r/MensRights25/06/18 01:57 AM
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Gotcha, makes a lot of sense. Thanks
/r/MensRights25/06/18 01:50 AM
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Agreed, 100%. Do you think they are trying to make men care? I took it as addressing the fact that some people do care what women think, and dispelling this as something that actually does not matter. I can see how including it at all sends the message that it is somehow relevant though. Is this what you are responding to?
/r/MensRights25/06/18 01:48 AM
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I completely agree that it’s beyond insulting for women to have any place in judging a man’s penis - what is attractive, sexually satisfying etc. I would flip my shit if I saw that scenario with genders reversed. But I don’t see that happening in this article. All I’m seeing is the author saying that some people are concerned with what women prefer, addressing this by saying women don’t actually care, and then an anecdotal quote from a woman confirming that she does not care. It’s not a great ar…
/r/MensRights25/06/18 01:25 AM
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Nah. Frankly I’ve lost interest in trying to decipher what you have to say.
/r/MensRights24/06/18 11:30 PM
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Can we stop posting screenshots with no context and start actually reading the articles before all the outrage? This is not productive.
/r/MensRights24/06/18 11:19 PM
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Again, I have no idea what you’re trying to say. Sorry.
/r/MensRights24/06/18 11:11 PM
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Cool off on the condescension, it’s unnecessary. Yes, everyone at this facility has been boys. I’ve already stated that, I don’t know why you think this is “difficult” for me. This is not a crisis affecting only boys. We know girls are being separated and held. We don’t know where. That’s why it’s notable to report that girls were brought here. Instead of insinuating something is not a coincidence, can you just state your point directly? I really have no idea what you are trying to say.
/r/MensRights24/06/18 11:05 PM
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I’m not sure what you mean. It’s a crisis effecting everyone, not just boys. We don’t know where the girls are being held nationwide. We have a bit of information on the conditions of this particular facility the boys are being held in. We do know that girls were brought here, which is a first. Et cetera.
/r/MensRights24/06/18 10:40 PM
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Agreed, what you are saying is also very relevant. The way you were interpreting the title out of context wasn’t quite right, but your reasoning behind it is The fact that we aren’t seeing any photos or hearing anything about where the girls are being held is troublesome for obvious reasons. Information is being withheld and we don’t know what is happening to them. But to your point, it’s not just that we aren’t hearing about girls, it’s that we’re only hearing about the older boys. This is prop…
/r/MensRights24/06/18 08:31 PM
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This is because this was the first time girls arrived at this shelter. If you’ve been following the story, this is a relevant piece of information to include.
/r/MensRights24/06/18 04:39 PM
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You literally supported a post the other day that advocated for women to be put in cages and raped to teach them to be nicer.
/r/MensRights23/06/18 06:11 PM
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The total disregard and lack of empathy from people on this sub comparing this issue to custody disputes is a fine display of cognitive dissonance, my friend.
/r/MensRights22/06/18 07:22 PM
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I get her not wanting to be touched, but just tell the guy not to do it. Problem solved. Women have sent a clear message that this is unwanted and men have already been asked not to do this. It’s called metoo. Problem solved.
/r/MensRights20/06/18 11:05 PM
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These comments are delusional. If a stranger rushes me out of nowhere, grabs my body, and puts their mouth on my fucking face, it’s absolutely assault. This isn’t flirting or funny or acceptable, it’s terrifying to be ambushed and violated like that.
/r/MensRights20/06/18 06:34 PM
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Well, yes. Women supporting women is not the same thing as blindly supporting anything a woman does. We don’t operate en mass in a solid blob of feminism. For her to have that expectation and raise an issue when the majority of criticism came from women is pretty insulting. I don’t know what her social media response was so I’ll withhold judgement there — no one should be legitimately abused, but criticism and abuse are not the same thing. There is a time and a place for well-executed political …
/r/MensRights20/06/18 04:50 PM
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What in the everloving fuck
/r/MensRights19/06/18 10:00 PM
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Yes, it’s obviously satire, at the expense of women. Edit: but yes, certainly a troll
/r/MensRights19/06/18 09:08 PM
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Dude come on. A feminist clearly did not write this. The entire article is dripping with condescension and contempt against women.
/r/MensRights19/06/18 07:35 PM
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You realize this is incredibly sexist... towards women. Right? Please tell me you recognize this.
/r/MensRights19/06/18 07:15 PM
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What sub is this in? The flair of “vagina fan of big cocks” is a little... odd. Edit: not doubting you, just curious to know the topic of a community that would say things like this.
/r/MensRights19/06/18 05:43 PM
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You have my empathy. I especially feel bad for the younger guys who can’t afford a bunch of suits and are likely wearing ones that are appropriate for much cooler weather. I’m surprised men aren’t regularly passing out on the subway. Would it be an option to store clothes at work at work and change when you get there? This seems like a huge pain in the ass, but if you commute via public transportation and not in an air conditioned car, it could be worth the trouble.
/r/MensRights19/06/18 01:55 PM
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Thank you. No pressure, but I would appreciate it.
/r/MensRights19/06/18 02:19 AM
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This one comes across as trolly for sure. Ramblings about patriarchy toxic masculinity somethingcel loltow gobbledygook are not my usual. I don’t think I’m wrong in saying it, but I definitely don’t think it was anything profound or even comprehensible. This whole space just gets a little ridiculous sometimes. We all know that. I will say that in my real life I do defend the overall intent of this sub and understand that the loudest voices aren’t representative of the cause. I hold myself to a s…
/r/MensRights19/06/18 01:58 AM
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I talk a lot of shit here, but I’m fair. You may not agree with all of the things I say and I respect that we may have different opinions about certain things. But there is a lot of bullshit that gets thrown around here that is objectively false and low effort and doing no one any favors. The comment I was responding to was poor logic but nowhere even close to the most egregious ones. But I do care about men and I do show empathy here. I can link to several examples where I have done so, and oth…
/r/MensRights19/06/18 01:31 AM
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I can back myself out of this one example and see your point about precedent. I agree with you that is important.
/r/MensRights19/06/18 01:17 AM
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Won’t argue with you there
/r/MensRights19/06/18 01:10 AM
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Haha it was a shitpost, but my point was that it’s ridiculous to use one person’s crazy ass subway behavior to justify another persons actual crime, or to make the claim that punishing said crime is “inequality” because completely different crimes exist. Which is what commenter I was replying to is doing. Thank you for giving me the benefit of the doubt (or at least playing along). I certainly don’t deserve such generosity. The man on the subway that takes videos of me, at times with an actual p…
/r/MensRights19/06/18 01:09 AM
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Hahaahahahaa yes, by all means. be deeply afraid of this terrible risk of women rushing you and bending over every time you innocently try to take a photo of your avocado toast. I think you’re going to be ok, buddy.
/r/MensRights18/06/18 11:18 PM
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There’s a man on my subway who routinely takes photos and videos of me because he thinks I am part of a conspiracy to overthrow the government and donald trump has asked him to surveil me so America can be great again. Sometimes the phone is not a phone, but a taco. Sometimes this even happens in front of children and trouser-less women on their way to nightclubs. And it’s not even Taco Friday - just my regular 9am commute. But now you LITERALLY want me to be punished for pickpocketing the men o…
/r/MensRights18/06/18 11:01 PM
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Oh, the irony
/r/MensRights18/06/18 06:04 PM
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Yes because a serial rapist and an innocent girl with an abusive father have so much in common.
/r/MensRights18/06/18 05:57 PM
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So it is exactly what I said. This woman is an asshole who posted something meant to incite a reaction. She is a troll who seems defensive to the fact that her so-called “joke” had consequences. I originally wrote a different reply to you, and when I felt the need to clarify at the end that I was ranting at her and not you, I realized I had fallen into the troll trap as well. This woman is betraying both genders by writing this bullshit.
/r/MensRights18/06/18 05:57 PM
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Are you not accountable for information you yourself are now stating as fact to challenge someone else’s argument?
/r/MensRights18/06/18 05:50 PM
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This is a terrible thing to say. What happened to OP is horrific, but the girl’s father is 100% to blame for the false allegation. His girlfriend is a victim of child abuse. If he forced her to get a rape kit and kept her out of school, there was likely physical abuse as well, this guy sounds like a monster. To speculate that she’s going to come forward with accusations years later and be considered a hero is absurd and cruel.
/r/MensRights18/06/18 04:42 PM
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This is a fake post made by someone who wanted to incite a reaction. You are being trolled.
/r/MensRights18/06/18 04:31 PM
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That’s great, the store is a really cool idea, I can see why you support it. I distinctly remember being very young and my father taking me to buy a Mother’s Day gift with “my own money.” I got her a blue candle with a white frosted glass candleholder. It was from a drugstore and cost two dollars :) But the fact that I still remember that as an adult goes to show how how proud I was of it. The only other gift I specifically remember was a terrible Hawaiian-style shirt my brother and I got my dad…
/r/MensRights18/06/18 04:28 PM
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Except the already existing child doesn't take precedence over a woman's finances in the state of Michigan (as they are not required to pay child support under any circumstances). Source?
/r/MensRights18/06/18 04:00 PM
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Bring it up at the next parent teacher event. Say that you were disappointed that they didn’t do it for Father’s Day because the kids took so much pride in their Mother’s Day gifts. Get a few dads together and volunteer to organize next years Mother’s Day event so the moms can organize Father’s Day.
/r/MensRights18/06/18 01:50 AM
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Please ramble on! This post is lovely.
/r/MensRights17/06/18 05:34 PM
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It would be nice if this sub dedicated Father’s Day to celebrating men instead of scouring Facebook and filling the feed with negativity. How many authentic tributes to fathers did you come across before you found this one?
/r/MensRights17/06/18 04:50 PM
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Yeah they talk about it like it’s high school gossip. This article links to a local news source that has a related story titled something like “ninth grader breaks up with school counselor after mother catches them in bed naked” Breaks up with. It also raises a flag to me that a ninth grader is 17 years old. I was 17 when I started college. That makes me wonder about the possibility that the boy could have some kind of developmental issues that make him more vulnerable. In any event, this is a j…
/r/MensRights16/06/18 05:22 PM
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Most custody agreements are made between the parents, not by the court.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 04:45 PM
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That’s not what feminism means
/r/MensRights16/06/18 04:33 PM
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I wondered the same. I think Unilever (parent company) is known for their parent-friendly policies. From what I can find, fathers get about a month of paid paternity leave and there are decent flex schedule options for parents to work from home.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 04:17 PM
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Yeah because all these absent fathers are just begging to be a part of these kids lives and the mothers won’t let them. Give me a break.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 01:49 PM
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Oh, I just meant the article doesn’t have an agenda. But thanks.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 01:45 PM
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Not coming out and saying the fathers aren’t living with them is being charitable to the fathers, not the single mothers.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 01:34 PM
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Looking isn’t sexual harassment
/r/MensRights16/06/18 01:28 PM
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Women aren’t telling men what they can’t wear, employers are. Women don’t give a shit what men wear. We feel bad for men commuting to work in suits in 90 degree weather while we’re wearing dresses. I feel most for the younger guys working in formal industries who probably can’t afford the expense of multiple suits and are likely wearing clothing that is more appropriate for cooler weather. I’m in a casual office and while guys have lighter options, it’s extremely rare to see a man wearing shorts…
/r/MensRights16/06/18 03:33 AM
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Sorry, not seeing a bias here. There are a lot more interesting takeaways than who has it worse.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 03:19 AM
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That’s a really considerate point. Totally different, but it was only in the past few years that I recognized anger to be a red flag for me. Not to say that men are angry by nature at all, but speaking in terms of stereotypes — I think being female, it was much easier for a doctor to identify this as a symptom than it would have been for a man.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 03:06 AM
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She’s right, the contempt is amusing.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 01:54 AM
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Oh man, deleted. OP I really worked hard on that for you!
/r/MensRights16/06/18 01:44 AM
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Oh wow, that’s terrible and really disappointing to hear. I was just wondering if they might be an organization worth getting behind :(
/r/MensRights15/06/18 09:28 PM
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I love that you thought to call, it didn’t even occur to me that it might still be around. Boys Town sounds vaguely familiar but if I have heard of it it would have been a long time ago. It could be interesting to vet them and raise some money to resurrect if it has value and is indeed little-known or underfunded. Also nice to see that it’s in Spanish as well as English.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 09:25 PM
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This makes a lot of sense, thanks. I do see the distinctions you mention. I think this is actually a really interesting execution for analysis, I could argue it a few ways but can’t really put my finger on it in any direction, you’ve articulated it better than I’ve been able to. But to your point, above all else it’s refreshing to see this acknowledgement at all, even if slightly imperfect. It would be nice if we saw this kind of thing enough that we had the luxury of dissecting it intellectuall…
/r/MensRights15/06/18 09:18 PM
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Well, when you highjack a discussion about very real concerns and try to invalidate it, you aren’t going to be perceived well. This is no different than someone inserting themselves into a discussion about circumcision and throwing out irrelevant FGM statistics. It’s disrespectful and derailing.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 08:52 PM
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Curious to know how you guys perceive this one. I think the service and intent is definitely good, but wondered if the execution would be offputting by today’s standards. Do you think this is sort of sexist and condescending to men or am I reading too much into something that is overall positive and lighthearted? Edit: or maybe lighthearted isn’t the correct word. But you know what I mean.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 08:45 PM
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Not really, no.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 08:39 PM
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I’m with you on the first example. I think it’s nice for kids to recognize single mothers on Father’s Day and single fathers on Mother’s Day if they are indeed on their own and filling both roles. I think most mothers and fathers are perfectly ok with that too. But the T-shirt you mentioned sounds like it is taking Father’s Day and making it about women, and that’s completely different and so disrespectful and diminishing. Fathers deserve recognition. But the article you posted as your second ex…
/r/MensRights15/06/18 08:32 PM
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Do you really think they are belittling men though? If it’s true that women are more immune to certain things than men, either biologically or socially, identifying and studying why that occurs would only be to the benefit of men, in helping them reach achieve similar outcomes. They even say that here. I didn’t get the sense that the article was assigning any kind of superiority of character or attributing this resilience to anything outside of circumstance beyond control. It seems that anything…
/r/MensRights15/06/18 08:08 PM
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Can 100% confirm all of this. Especially about the writers not wanting to write this crap. Everyone knows it’s sexist and irrelevant and no one wants their name on it. Advertising is an industry built on ego and awards shows, so I can’t say it’s always out of pure altruism to promote equality (and if it is it’s because it’s a trend that has proven to be successful), it’s more that everyone knows this style of advertising is unoriginal and mediocre and these accounts are where careers go to die. …
/r/MensRights15/06/18 07:48 PM
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For strong and stoic men age 18-50 that crave personal care products that allow them to express their conformity to masculine ideals, we present Kleenex Mansize. Mansize Kleenex is an experiential journey customized exclusively for men, that completely reimagines nose-blowing from a feminine signal of weakness and poor immunity; to a raw, powerful, masculine rejection of bodily fluids. Through rigorous market research, the Mansize brand identity was carefully crafted to resonate with men and the…
/r/MensRights15/06/18 06:11 PM
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Wow, thank you for posting. This is fantastic.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 04:31 PM
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Typically there's between three and four times as many suicides among males as among females In 2016, about 21 boys or men out of 100,000 took their own lives. On the other hand, just six girls or women out of 100,000 died by suicide that year.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 02:30 AM
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Before you start wishing death on people, what is the lie you think they are telling?
/r/MensRights15/06/18 02:05 AM
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I don’t have any more knowledge on it than you do, or at least nothing credible, but I’ve always heard it stated as almost common knowledge that Scientology has control within the LAPD. Would love to know what really goes on there.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 12:52 AM
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Combatting sex abuse is admittedly well above my pay grade. But we can absolutely make a dent in the harmful stereotypes perpetuated by media coverage of these crimes. Is this something you would be interested in contributing to?
/r/MensRights15/06/18 12:46 AM
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I’m sorry, I’m not following the connection here?
/r/MensRights14/06/18 11:43 PM
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Ummm the reason that the card is offensive is because it’s racist Have you ever in your life seen a Father’s Day card that features a black person? Do you think it’s a coincidence that the one that does happens to also feature the words “baby daddy”?? Literally how did you completely miss the problem here?
/r/MensRights14/06/18 10:57 PM
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Agreed. But to be fair, this language is from the companies own press release, not any sort of legal entity. Whether the allegations are true or not, they are going to position themselves as victims and downplay the situation as frivolous.
/r/MensRights14/06/18 10:53 PM
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Yes! Thank you for validating that one for me. This woman is so outlandish in claiming that men make roads that kill women that I had to read it a few times before I allowed myself to judge her more harshly for her poorly closeted misogyny than her absurd attack on men that’s so stupid and irrelevant it basically neutralizes itself.
/r/MensRights14/06/18 10:35 PM
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Not if it interferes with other people’s ability to do their work and creates a hostile workplace environment. If an adult man is incapable of working on a team with women he needs to suck it up or leave. There’s enough talent out there that no company has an incentive to invest in someone who has no growth potential.
/r/MensRights14/06/18 08:22 PM
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Well don’t you embody the quote “men are afraid women will laugh at them, women are afraid men will kill them.” I hope this post earns you a spot on a list somewhere, you sound dangerously unwell.
/r/MensRights14/06/18 07:43 PM
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Now that I’ve laid all of that out I should disclose that I’m immersed in a self-funded and self-directed side project around circumcision and have limited bandwidth to responsibly take on a large role in another one at this time. However, I’m happy to lend upfront strategy expertise and can lightly oversee strategy through execution if you need me. Honestly, I just think about this every time I see an article, and it’s been killing me not to at least throw out the idea. With the right people in…
/r/MensRights14/06/18 05:05 PM
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Maybe don’t use a complete lack of logic to try to prove that point.
/r/MensRights14/06/18 03:05 PM
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No doubt everyone who touched this was white.
/r/MensRights14/06/18 03:04 PM
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They used a photo of a man because he is a local resident and this is a local news source. The first three words of the article explain that. Is this really your takeaway from the news of a horrific number of sex crimes against children?
/r/MensRights14/06/18 02:44 PM
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All you’re providing with the 70% “statistic” is proof of police bias. It’s frightening to think that someone who believes the majority of victims are lying by default holds a position dealing with sex crimes. This is why victims aren’t taken seriously.
/r/MensRights14/06/18 02:26 PM
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Do you feel the same way about stereotype threat towards boys’ reading performance?
/r/MensRights14/06/18 01:23 PM
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One woman’s positive experience doesn’t debunk shit. I really don’t think you’re qualified to lecture anyone about logic
/r/MensRights14/06/18 01:17 PM
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Holy shit, you’re right. Literally Every. Single. One.
/r/MensRights14/06/18 12:33 PM
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Clickbait title. Does anyone actually read these articles before jumping on the bandwagon?
/r/MensRights14/06/18 02:32 AM
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I understand that. I don’t think it negates my point though. One person’s feelings about it aren’t rendered invalid by another’s. The point I’m trying to make is that I often see contempt towards emotion on this sub, and I don’t believe anyone actually adheres to this show of bravado in real life. There are plenty of examples where feelings are valid in absence of data, and many where feelings about something constitute evidence in themselves.
/r/MensRights14/06/18 02:29 AM
-1

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I get where you’re coming from. I do appreciate that men talk about their experiences with sexual assault and rape openly here, it’s not easy to do. And I sympathize with the ignorance that an erection implies desire or consent, I’ve seen people say that and it sends me into blackout rage. Some women even have orgasms during rape, I imagine men do as well, and any involuntary reaction adds a layer of mindfuck to an already traumatizing situation that leaves peopl…
/r/MensRights13/06/18 11:07 PM
-4

That’s fair. I haven’t seen evidence of this personally, but it’s certainly not unfathomable. Have you come across examples of women dismissing underage male victims and the severity of the crimes, or are you more responding to a lack of discussion overall?
/r/MensRights13/06/18 10:47 PM
1

This isn’t limited to men looking at women, and sounds like it was largely sparked by the interruption of production of House of Cards, which was centered around Kevin Spacey and male victims. But that’s my only critique, these types of zero tolerance rules are a joke that absolve Netflix of all accountability and undermine the whole movement. No one is reporting being looked at for more than 5 seconds, they are speaking up about sexual harassment and assault.
/r/MensRights13/06/18 10:34 PM
6

What does this have to do with feminism? Or an assault on science? Or banning European males in science courses?
/r/MensRights13/06/18 10:15 PM
4

Are they refusing to acknowledge it? The prevalence of female teachers committing rape and sexual assault against students, and the response from society is indeed a huge problem, but feminists aren’t perpetuating the idea that male victims should feel lucky, defending these women getting lenient punishments, or referring to these crimes as “romps”. The people to go after here are the media and the judges/decision makers.
/r/MensRights13/06/18 10:07 PM
0

What happened to you is horrifyingly and traumatizing. Your description of it as the most humiliating and degrading that had ever happened to you is heartbreaking and painfully real. I agree wholeheartedly that men face unique barriers and struggles with reporting. But I’m unclear why you would be opposed to metoo given that you can empathize as a victim? Is it because of the fringe that believes it’s for women only? If so, I would be (and am) put off as well, I think the movement is important a…
/r/MensRights13/06/18 09:52 PM
1

If you replaced Emma Watson with a photo of Obama, would you feel that you had successfully debunked racism?
/r/MensRights13/06/18 09:33 PM
1

I disagree. Many men here have very strong feelings about their circumcisions. There are facts that support circumcision is not necessary. But outside of those who have suffered documented medical problems caused by circumcision, many men, by no fault of their own, are unable to produce discrete evidence that their feelings can be directly traced to circumcision. This lack of evidence doesn’t (or rather, shouldn’t) invalidate their feelings, and a lack of evidence doesn’t somehow erase their pai…
/r/MensRights13/06/18 07:30 PM
1

I think this is a really cool idea. Is your primary goal to create a publication, or organize a group of people? Does the concept you have in mind necessitate a large demand, or would a smaller niche group of people actually be better? Is there a reason you couldn’t gauge interest by just putting it out there and seeing what happens? All rhetorical questions - I may be misinterpreting your mention of being pretty antisocial as introversion and apprehension to put yourself out there, but if that …
/r/MensRights13/06/18 04:15 PM
1

I never commented on this post, leave me out of it.
/r/MensRights13/06/18 03:59 AM
3

Context?
/r/MensRights12/06/18 09:36 PM
-1

I had no idea. Silly me. I’ll be sure to pass along your brilliant insight to my recruiters.
/r/MensRights12/06/18 08:20 PM
1

Discriminating in how I spend money is not the same thing as discriminating in how I treat people.
/r/MensRights12/06/18 08:01 PM
1

If I have a niche interest and see untapped potential in robotics and your company is a co-working space, I am not discriminating against you by choosing not to invest. If I think women are extremely important to the future of AI (which I do) and I choose to put my money on them, that is an investment strategy. If you think VCs care about feelings more than exits, you are naive. If you think Melinda Gates is a dumb housewife playing with her husband’s money, you are sexist. If you think a white …
/r/MensRights12/06/18 07:49 PM
0

A demographic that holds 98% of representation complaining about being discriminated against when someone sees investment potential in an underrepresented group is laughable. The idea that anything pertaining to women is by default based on some other metric other than merit is equally laughable.
/r/MensRights12/06/18 07:25 PM
2

The context of the post was that this was the perfect solution for feminists and MRAs, which is what I was responding to. Interesting that you would be so offended by the opinion that this device is a useless weapon that would promote an inaccurate fear mongering portrayal of a rampant rape culture, while failing to even provide a realistic solution to reduce the occurrence of rape. And yes, I would also tend to agree with the many critics of the device within the context of its use in South Afr…
/r/MensRights12/06/18 07:19 PM
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It’s disappointing to see an MRA so callously use a man’s suicide and mental illness to further an anti-woman agenda. You are displaying ignorance and a lack of compassion on a number of levels, and I’m confident that the majority of men in this sub would not condone this. Perhaps you should sit down and listen to them.
/r/MensRights12/06/18 07:03 PM
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The majority of the men’s results are news articles about incels. If a female online community was recently topical you would see the same. For a community who insists that men are superior in tech and rejects emotion over data, this trend of wounded souls failing to grasp the concept of an algorithm is highly amusing.
/r/MensRights12/06/18 06:33 PM
3

The idea that the risk of being raped is so high it would be necessary to carry a weapon inside my body at all times is just as ridiculous as the idea of asking my rapist to pause for just a sec while I locate and insert a claw into my vagina.
/r/MensRights11/06/18 11:02 PM
2

Gotcha, thanks I missed that part
/r/MensRights11/06/18 08:07 PM
0

No actually the mod deleted YOUR comments.
/r/MensRights11/06/18 08:06 PM
0

http://fortune.com/2018/01/31/female-founders-venture-capital-2017/
/r/MensRights11/06/18 08:04 PM
1

Gotcha, thanks. Didn’t put that together.
/r/MensRights11/06/18 08:03 PM
0

Yeah. That is exactly what I said. Three times.
/r/MensRights11/06/18 08:02 PM
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I’m not whining. I am challenging why everyone else is whining. This article has been posted multiple times with everyone crying about how white men are being discriminated against when they already receive 98% of funding.
/r/MensRights10/06/18 03:05 AM
1

All of those may indeed qualify, but the first two are extremely rare edge cases, and I don’t see how the third would be any different for mothers in the US than any other developed country. Regardless of why, according to the article the fact remains that more mothers are dying and more babies are surviving. They state many possible reasons for this, including yours about preexisting conditions. I really don’t see how this suggests statistics are deceptive or why you seem to resent the idea of …
/r/MensRights10/06/18 03:02 AM
1

That’s very odd. I remember your post, I don’t recall there being anything in content or tone that could even be hastily misconstrued as trolling, it was very matter-of-fact. If that’s not a legal question, I don’t know what is. How’s your friend? After you replied to me last time I wondered about the possibility that she isn’t actually pregnant, though I’m not sure what the end game on that would even be. Edit: I also just remembered that I didn’t bring that up because it’s none of my business …
/r/MensRights10/06/18 02:41 AM
-1

Question: Do you have your right to make choices as you will in matters of investment? does Melinda Gates have the right to make choices in matters of investment? Do you have your right to discriminate among various choices? Does Melinda Gates have a right to see the potential in women-owned companies and invest in them? Do you think that right should extend to others? Sure do Don't you think onus is on others to convince you that they are the right choice to invest in? it appears they have done…
/r/MensRights10/06/18 02:21 AM
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Do you know how sexist it is to assume that men are so superior that truly only 2% of women companies are worth finding? Come on.
/r/MensRights09/06/18 10:15 PM
2

I’m not seeing a connection between unplanned pregnancies and an increased risk of death, can you elaborate?
/r/MensRights09/06/18 09:57 PM
1

“From any cause related or aggravated by the pregnancy or its management.” “Not from accidental or incidental causes” This doesn’t include car accidents. My guess is that it would include infections after fertility treatments, why wouldn’t it? I honestly don’t understand what you’re skeptical about, or why you would be. Women are dying from reasons related to pregnancy and childbirth. Having children is putting women at a higher risk of death than it should. Some of these deaths could be prevent…
/r/MensRights09/06/18 09:47 PM
0

The article states the opposite.
/r/MensRights09/06/18 09:33 PM
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Im not seeing the comparison. I’m sure you would agree that the disproportionate number of homeless men speaks to societal problems, mental health care, and a number of issues that disproportionally effect men; and not some shortcoming or flaw of men. You can’t really think that there are 2 above average women for every 98 men. People who found companies don’t tend to be average or unmotivated.
/r/MensRights09/06/18 09:31 PM
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Yeah I read the part about racism against Asians. I’m not familiar with the context beyond what I read in the article. If you have more knowledge than I do, do you know why Asians are being targeted as assumed attackers? It seems so random, but again I’m unfamiliar with the social and race issues in the UK.
/r/MensRights09/06/18 07:58 PM
0

This is pretty shameful. People should help each other in general, but this in no way qualifies as a Good Samaritan situation. No one is obligated to put their personal safety on the line for someone else. These men did nothing to contribute to the situation and it’s gross to suggest they have any accountability for this. Given that the perpetrator was clearly unstable, getting involved would have likely heightened the danger for themselves and everyone in the vicinity. The minimum expectation w…
/r/MensRights09/06/18 07:45 PM
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It’s not deceptive. There are a number of complications that can arise throughout pregnancy, during childbirth, and as a result of childbirth. I’m not following what point you’re trying to make or why you would want to discredit this.
/r/MensRights09/06/18 07:35 PM
1

I would disagree with you that toxic behaviors are being labeled as inherent masculine traits. The term “toxic masculinity” refers to unhealthy standards imposed on men by society, not biological traits associated with masculinity. Masculinity is fine.
/r/MensRights09/06/18 07:30 PM
-1

Why would you mock this? Pregnancy and childbirth related causes means just that. Why would you put car accidents in the same category? This is a women’s health issue and has nothing to do with men’s rights. However, it has a profound effect on the partners who were left behind. How is this article anything but sad?
/r/MensRights09/06/18 07:20 PM
0

Bourdain committed suicide because of mental illness. Mental illness and suicide are men’s rights issues, conspiracy theories are not appropriate here. It’s in really poor taste to use the term “roped”. Have some compassion.
/r/MensRights09/06/18 06:53 PM
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It’s women who are being discriminated against, not men. 2.2% of VC capital went to all-women teams in 2017 4.4% of VC capital went to women-founded companies in 2017. The average deal size for a woman-founded company was ~5 million The average deal size for a man-led company was ~12 million Men are making these decisions, as 8% of partners at top VC firms are women Research suggests that women are judged on performance, while men are judged on potential.
/r/MensRights09/06/18 06:42 PM
0

Pretty sure that removing children from a parent who is threatening violence is the opposite of child abuse.
/r/MensRights07/06/18 03:21 AM
1

Is there some reason you are doubting a woman’s ability to manage money? What is your angle here exactly?
/r/MensRights07/06/18 03:02 AM
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Let’s just erase women from history!
/r/MensRights07/06/18 02:55 AM
0

Is this English. I have no idea what you’re talking about.
/r/MensRights07/06/18 02:48 AM
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Considering she managed a strict household budget for years while her husband lied to her and spent all their money, I think you can forgive her a $150 luxury and the benefit of the doubt that she’ll be just fine.
/r/MensRights07/06/18 02:47 AM
-1

Jesus fuck, I said this woman is gross, no one has an obligation to risk their lives for anyone else, and this standard would never be held to women and you guys are still looking for reasons to attack me. If you want to go masturbate to a fantasy world where women and children sacrifice men, be my guest. Get a life.
/r/MensRights07/06/18 01:08 AM
-1

No one...NO ONE... I repeat, NO ONE is saying there aren't "lots and lots of men guilty of sexual harassment. Are you new here?
/r/MensRights06/06/18 10:46 PM
-1

Yeah, 71 accused. Nowhere does it say they were fired without any investigation. It may be hard to swallow, but the reason these numbers are so Hugh might just be because sexual harassment is a problem and not that all women are liars and society hates men.
/r/MensRights06/06/18 10:45 PM
0

Yes, ranting. Absolutely.
/r/MensRights06/06/18 10:35 PM
1

Post it again, three times today wasn’t enough. But seriously, she’s a crazy bitch. I’m embarrassed for her.
/r/MensRights06/06/18 10:27 PM
-1

I mean, I’m not getting off on posting about it every day like it’s an actual epidemic, and I don’t blame men for anything in my life, but ok.
/r/MensRights06/06/18 09:59 PM
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I read somewhere that something like 4 out of 5 victims of acid attacks are men. Don’t quote me on that, I’ll see if I can find it. Edit: Ok, so according to this article, acid attacks worldwide are a gendered crime that disproportionally targets women. *However, It sounds like attacks are most prevalent in the UK (I’m not familiar but it sounds like a fucking epidemic) where victims are not only overwhelmingly male (4/5), but the number of male victims has increased an insane amount in the past…
/r/MensRights06/06/18 09:54 PM
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Lots and lots of men are guilty of sexual harassment and women are sick of it. Sorry.
/r/MensRights06/06/18 09:46 PM
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Let’s be reasonable. Zero women are marching and chanting for men to be first. You seem to be suffering from a lot of anger. I’m sorry for whatever is going on in your life.
/r/MensRights06/06/18 09:45 PM
1

Sure, thanks for bringing up the topic. It’s an interesting one to reason through. I’m not married to any of my points and my lack of exposure to the male POV certainly doesn’t qualify as evidence that it’s not there, so if you disagree I would be curious to hear your take.
/r/MensRights06/06/18 06:01 PM
0

Ok. Given that the article implies the exact opposite it would have been completely reasonable for you to have that takeaway. Sorry?
/r/MensRights06/06/18 05:52 PM
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Um. Yeah. I agree with you. The words I used are fine. The words you are looking for are: Seems *this woman feels quite entitled to male bodies.
/r/MensRights06/06/18 05:51 PM
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It is his baby. It’s sexist because the title of the article implies that men are merely babysitters of their own children.
/r/MensRights06/06/18 05:46 PM
0

Without context this post is useless, but more importantly, who cares? This is the lowest hanging fruit ever. For every wrongdoing there are a ton of shit posts out there to validate it. Cherry picking and promoting the “ideology” if someone who isn’t capable of forming a coherent sentence is just rage porn. Whoever wrote this is completely irrelevant and has zero bearing or influence on anyone’s rights.
/r/MensRights06/06/18 05:40 PM
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This is pretty shameful. People should help each other in general, but this in no way qualifies as a Good Samaritan situation. No one is obligated to put their personal safety on the line for someone else. These men did nothing to contribute to the situation and it’s gross to suggest they have any accountability for this. Given that the perpetrator was clearly unstable, getting involved would have likely heightened the danger for themselves and everyone in the vicinity. The minimum expectation w…
/r/MensRights06/06/18 05:16 PM
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Ok so what makes you believe that these men are all innocent? Many of them admitted wrongdoing and apologized, many stepped down voluntarily. I’m not sure that we are swimming in a a sea of victims here.
/r/MensRights06/06/18 04:59 PM
1

I can’t speak to your specific condition, and wouldn’t ask you to reveal it for obvious privacy reasons. These are my general unresearched thoughts: Statistics wouldn’t mean much to me for this one, there would be too many variables to take into account. If I have a baby, the number of doctors appointments I have in one year will likely exceed what healthy men have in 5+ years. So I’m much more likely to experience sexism than a man, but that doesn’t mean much to me. I’m also more likely to expe…
/r/MensRights06/06/18 04:26 PM
-1

So where are you getting 30%? Your source says 12.5
/r/MensRights06/06/18 02:15 PM
-10

Who is losing their job by an accusation?
/r/MensRights06/06/18 02:12 PM
-12

Who exactly are all these men you think have been convicted of sexual harassment on the word of 4 accusers?
/r/MensRights06/06/18 02:11 PM
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Why are you lying? 12.5% of young American women believe this Twice as many young American men (25%) believe this This isn’t about co-workers at all, you made that up too. This poll is bullshit anyway. There is no way in hell that 1 in 4 men believe that asking a woman for a drink is usually or always sexual harassment. Come on.
/r/MensRights06/06/18 01:10 PM
0

This is a really interesting question, so forgive the spattering of thoughts, I’m just thinking out loud. I have mixed feelings about the show in general, and am undecided whether I think it sends a healthy message. However, I disagree with you that it focuses on the “female aspect” (quotes are not used for condescension) I would go so far as to say it’s the opposite. I see the show as very sympathetic to men. The main character isn’t really Hannah, it’s a compilation cast with a story that is c…
/r/MensRights05/06/18 09:23 PM
0

Men build civilizations; women destroy them. Snort
/r/MensRights05/06/18 01:51 PM
2

Care to share examples of what you’ve heard?, I think it’s a reasonable discussion to talk about men’s health and whether the medical community could be better serving them, but why does that need to include the suggestion that it’s not so sexist after all? Does a man experiencing sexism somehow negate a woman experiencing sexism?
/r/MensRights04/06/18 09:48 PM
2

How would this help you exactly?
/r/MensRights04/06/18 08:04 PM
2

This poor kid is probably destroyed that this happened to him. But who cares about that? Let’s all spread around his photo with his FACE in it, and make it easier for everyone at his school to find evidence of it. Traumatizing preteen boys is a great way to make a point about how boys are mistreated.
/r/MensRights04/06/18 05:37 PM
1

Maybe find a story where the abusers aren’t all men
/r/MensRights02/06/18 01:21 PM
-1

How is it dishonest?
/r/MensRights02/06/18 01:18 PM
-2

Riiiiiight
/r/MensRights02/06/18 03:17 AM
0

Lol. Not even touching this one. Check your meds dude
/r/MensRights02/06/18 03:04 AM
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Where do you live that you don’t see women doing these things every day?
/r/MensRights01/06/18 11:59 PM
1

He has literally said he would date his daughter if she wasn’t his daughter. He talks about her body in a sexual way. I’m inclined to think it’s a narcissism trait more than an overt sexual attraction, but it’s creepy either way. I don’t think our culture believes men sexualize their daughters. Just him.
/r/MensRights01/06/18 07:11 PM
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This has nothing to do with the article
/r/MensRights01/06/18 11:59 AM
2

I mean... trump wanting to bang his daughter isn’t a new thing she just came up with
/r/MensRights01/06/18 11:51 AM
1

Lol
/r/MensRights31/05/18 03:43 AM
1

I’m sexually harassed on the street on a weekly basis. Please do tell everyone what you believe I’m doing wrong.
/r/MensRights31/05/18 12:06 AM
1

The main reason for false accusations are for revenge and attention. Most of them will not admit after. Neither of these statements are true. Half of false accusers are teenagers who are afraid of their parents. The second it gets real, they crack and admit it. A number of false accusations are made by mentally ill people who truly believe they have been raped. Others still who are homeless or in prison and claim they were raped out of desperation to receive medical attention for something else.…
/r/MensRights31/05/18 12:02 AM
2

I take it you are a woman then
/r/MensRights30/05/18 10:49 PM
1

And they should
/r/MensRights30/05/18 10:21 PM
2

Most women are smart enough to tell the difference between a man who respects women as individual people and a #niceguy with a twitter account
/r/MensRights30/05/18 08:21 PM
0

I’m not sure what you mean. If you’re asking why he is on the list at all, he shouldn’t be. Putting someone on a sex offender list for public urination is an injustice, but doesn’t put him at risk of being targeted for rape, nor does it have any bearing on his credibility if he is accused of a crime in the future.
/r/MensRights30/05/18 05:28 PM
0

That’s not equivalent at all. Your friend shouldn’t be on the list, but a record of public urination does not put him at risk of being stalked and raped by a sexual predator.
/r/MensRights30/05/18 04:28 PM
-2

I agree with you. Lying is not a sexual crime. If someone makes a false accusation to the police for personal gain and it can be proven, I don’t have a problem with higher consequences. There are other scenarios where I don’t think punishment should apply, so there would have to be nuance to these laws for me to be ok with it. But yeah, adding people to a sex offender list is inhumane. It’s a literal cheat sheet for sexual predators to target victims who won’t be believed.
/r/MensRights30/05/18 04:04 PM
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I can’t wrap my head around this one. I have no idea what 9gag is or what the controversy was with the rules, and I don’t care. There is no excuse for taking it down. I saw this posted earlier, and then went over there and saw the comments of the mods, and I felt a visceral sense of, for lack of a better term, empathetic betrayal? It’s not about me — I literally felt betrayed on behalf of men. There were so many important comments on that post. I had a shit day so maybe I sound overdramatic, but…
/r/MensRights29/05/18 11:22 PM
1

I’m a feminist and I was enraged by this.
/r/MensRights29/05/18 12:21 AM
-9

Thank you. I’m shocked to witness the ignorance and lack of empathy in this thread.
/r/MensRights28/05/18 10:14 PM
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This is fantastic, thank you for posting. Do you have a link? Would love to share it elsewhere.
/r/MensRights28/05/18 09:52 PM
-4

The children are with their mothers when they are taken. Hence his mention of children literally being taken from their mothers. Every reference in the article refers to “families being torn apart”. If you want to make this about white people problems and feminism, I am not sure what to tell you.
/r/MensRights28/05/18 09:16 PM
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Yes. The OP chose to withhold that this story is about our president separating children from their mothers at the border. https://thinkprogress.org/as-ice-separates-children-from-parents-at-the-border-public-outrage-grows-c624e69cd43f/
/r/MensRights28/05/18 09:10 PM
-11

It’s happening to families. The children are being taken from their mothers at the border.
/r/MensRights28/05/18 09:05 PM
-1

It is happening to men. Do you think these fathers want to see their families ripped apart? Do you even know what story you are commenting on?
/r/MensRights28/05/18 09:02 PM
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Considering the women in question are immigrants who were trying to provide a better life for their children only to have them kidnapped by our government, yes. I would say they are fit parents.
/r/MensRights28/05/18 08:56 PM
-7

What the fuck is wrong with you. You are ridiculing mothers who have their children taken from them by border officials and thrown into a government system that can not account for their whereabouts. Take this shit down.
/r/MensRights28/05/18 08:53 PM
13

Lots of people use family as part of their platform to appeal to voters. Parents like seeing someone they perceive to have their interests in mind.
/r/MensRights28/05/18 08:24 PM
-2

Please refrain from talking to children about their problems.
/r/MensRights28/05/18 05:57 PM
2

It has to do with men’s rights because he is being prevented from wresting on the men’s team and bullied for competing against women.
/r/MensRights28/05/18 05:47 PM
4

He is a dude.
/r/MensRights28/05/18 05:43 PM
-2

I’m sorry, no. Two older sisters said people should be able to wear what they want, little brother says clothing can be offensive, sisters tell him to shut up. He wants to vent. You told him he’s being abused, his family is toxic and doesn’t care about him, he can’t trust the police to protect him, and he needs to be removed from the home by force. THIS is textbook abuse.
/r/MensRights28/05/18 05:33 PM
-2

What is this comment?? It sounds like something I would find in “the extremist’s guide to radicalization and recruitment of 13 year old boys on social media.” What the OP is describing is not abuse. It’s called having older siblings.
/r/MensRights28/05/18 04:49 PM
2

Same reason people react with shock when they get in a car accident or broken up with or laid off from their job. All common occurrences.
/r/MensRights27/05/18 11:04 PM
1

Because it’s a common occurrence.
/r/MensRights27/05/18 10:25 PM
-2

No one accused him of touching a knee or suggested that a fine was in order.
/r/MensRights27/05/18 05:44 PM
1

I understand. I wasn’t suggesting that you, or men in general, should be sharing them with anyone. I was saying that the common narrative is to ask why men don’t or can’t share their feelings, when the questions we should be asking are, is anyone asking men and boys how they feel, are they asking in the right ways, and are we ignoring that men and boys might have different emotional needs than females that we should be working harder to understand. If you are referring specifically to circumcisi…
/r/MensRights27/05/18 05:35 PM
-1

I’m arguing with the person who says it’s not a big deal if it doesn’t do permanent physical harm.
/r/MensRights27/05/18 05:22 PM
0

Yeah, that’s totally fair. I find it really disturbing that I would be downvoted to oblivion for saying someone is a shitty father for gloating about not having to take care of his children. But you’re right. There are three possible scenarios here and the most plausible one is that this is fake. If it’s real, his kids are used to having a father that is insensitive at best and shit at worst, but at least they are 18 and can make their own choices. And there is a small but not unreasonable possi…
/r/MensRights27/05/18 05:20 PM
-1

No, no one has the right to grab someone’s genitals. That is a serious violation. It doesn’t matter if they have clothes on or whether it’s for 2 seconds or whether they cause physical damage. Inflicting physical harm or permanent damage would add additional charges, that doesn’t make mild. People can’t just go around grabbing other people’s bodies. And most people don’t.
/r/MensRights27/05/18 03:17 PM
0

No they don’t. They are vouching for the women who are saying that. That’s what witnesses are for.
/r/MensRights27/05/18 03:07 PM
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I agree. I believe that Morgan Freeman makes inappropriate and demeaning comments to women, some of which constitute misconduct and other which constitute harassment, but this video doesn’t show that happening. It was dumb of them to use it to back up their claims.
/r/MensRights27/05/18 03:05 PM
3

Maybe actually read the article before parroting someone else’s misleading comments about it.
/r/MensRights27/05/18 02:04 PM
7

You think grabbing people’s genitals is very mild?
/r/MensRights27/05/18 01:52 PM
1

Those women are witnesses, not victims. When there are witnesses, it ceases to be he said / she said. That’s why they’re part of this.
/r/MensRights27/05/18 01:49 PM
3

Agreed with all that a lawyer is needed ASAP. I’m dying to know how the conversation with his wife went down. I’m imagining two people sitting across from each other eating cereal every morning wondering who is going to bring it up first.
/r/MensRights27/05/18 01:59 AM
-2

BSA has been declining for years. I can’t look for a source for you right now but it’s widely published if you want to google it. I just read something about it, membership peaked around 6.5M in the late 70s and has been slowly declining since. Dont quote me on this but if I remember correctly they lost around 100k YOY between 2012-2016 and landed at around 2.3M. Like I said, I don’t know how they are planning to roll this out, I’m just saying for the people who are against it, it’s possible tha…
/r/MensRights26/05/18 10:12 PM
12

God, this makes me so sad and angry, I can’t imagine how you feel having actually experienced it. To have it shoved in your face like that and see your sister support it is horrible. I’m glad to hear you have been able to move past it, and I hate to hear that you have to be subject to triggers like this.
/r/MensRights26/05/18 07:42 PM
1

I agree with you that boys can benefit from having their own spaces, but there’s no feminist conspiracy here. This was an opportunistic move by the Boy Scouts for $$. No one wants to send their children to Girl Scouts anymore so Boy Scouts is scooping up their members and the donations and funding that come with them. I don’t know how they plan to roll it out, but it sounds like people are confident that once the membership numbers support gender-exclusive troops this will be offered.
/r/MensRights26/05/18 07:31 PM
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Probably for the best
/r/MensRights26/05/18 07:01 PM
5

Yeah, this is shitty, I’m sorry you have to see stuff like this. All I can tell you is that most women, including feminists, don’t feel this way or take these people seriously. This person has a really skewed view of reality and is probably deeply unhappy, and it’s irresponsible and cruel for her to project these toxic views onto others. It can be especially harmful for victims of sexual assault to see things like this that paint their whole gender as predators and diminish their experiences. My…
/r/MensRights26/05/18 06:10 PM
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I feel bad for his kid having to see this
/r/MensRights26/05/18 05:59 PM
2

There’s also a video of a mother who fails at making a birthday cake. They are relating to parents, not angsty 17 year olds.
/r/MensRights26/05/18 02:19 PM
19

No one needs 60k a month in child support, man or woman
/r/MensRights26/05/18 12:09 PM
-2

Not every conversation has to be so emotionally charged, calm down. You’re willfully misunderstanding my point and twisting my words around. I’m on the side of men here, if you are unable to see that, I don’t have the energy to continue this. I promise you no one at a hospital gives a flying fuck about a man hovering around demanding paternity tests while a woman is in labor, and I promise you that a woman can’t just point to any man and say he is the father. Go fuck yourself on the circumcision…
/r/MensRights26/05/18 11:20 AM
1

Im in total agreement with you here. I do realize laws vary by country, and am speaking exclusively to current laws in the US. I don’t agree with anything that would prevent or make it harder for men to verify paternity. He should have the right to a test without jumping through any hoops or obtaining permission from anyone, including the mother. I’m not knowledgeable of the rationale of anyone opposed to paternity testing, but the first guess that comes to mind is that it assumes women are guil…
/r/MensRights25/05/18 11:46 PM
-2

One of many ways: Voluntary paternity testing assumes a man is the father unless proven otherwise. Mandating paternity tests assume a man is not the father until proven otherwise. The vast majority of men present at birth are the biological father. The chance of complications before, during and after childbirth is much higher than the chance of fraud. A man who has not yet established paternity would be denied the right to make medical decisions for his own child. Not only would this grant full …
/r/MensRights25/05/18 11:42 PM
1

To my knowledge paternity can be accurately tested with a blood test (parents, not fetus) as early as 8 weeks. I can’t speak to whether this method is widely accessible or affordable.
/r/MensRights25/05/18 07:09 PM
-1

You have every right to ask for a paternity test. No one is threatening to take that away. I do not agree with passing unnecessary laws that violate men’s rights, destroy people’s lives, and open the door for giving the government power over to impose other types of forced genetic testing on citizens.
/r/MensRights25/05/18 06:02 PM
2

No prob. I hope you are doing ok. I wish I was qualified in offering guidance on how to proceed on this, but I think u/antilopes has raised a number of good points regarding potential evidence you may be able to build a case around. I would copy these down somewhere in the event that you decide to consult a lawyer. Actually I would go ahead and document everything you remember about your interactions with her and the facility so it’s solid in your mind. Like I said, this experience is really con…
/r/MensRights25/05/18 05:22 PM
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One of us (me) is of the belief that mandatory paternity testing infringes on mens freedom. The other (you) said “oh noes those poor men’s” You may disagree with me that this is a violation of men’s rights but you have no leg to stand on telling me that I deny men’s rights. I’ve offered a number of reasons why enforcing paternity testing is a bad idea. If you would like to challenge them I’m happy to consider your view. I’m not so insecure that having my mind changed is somehow threatening.
/r/MensRights25/05/18 04:53 PM
1

Men already have the right to confirm paternity before signing a birth certificate or paying child support. This can be tested very early in a pregnancy.
/r/MensRights25/05/18 04:18 PM
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Oh noes, those poor mens! Is that how you dismiss anyone being denied of rights, or just men? Sorry, I’m not a proponent of passing unnecessary laws that stand to hurt a lot of people. If someone tried to force mandatory genetic screening for altzhiemers, it would be a gross violation of freedom that would have catastrophic effects on people’s lives. This should be a choice, and paternity testing is no different. The government doesn't have an issue enforcing selective service on men. How does t…
/r/MensRights25/05/18 04:13 PM
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I don’t find anything he says trustworthy. I find the idea of a secret organized nationwide conspiracy to elevate women’s grades to be paranoid and logically the least likely scenario. The school says the grades weren’t changed. I would tend to believe this is true based on integrity and policy, but the reason I DO believe this is true is because of liability and damage control. Grade tampering is easily proven. Regardless of what went on behind the scenes or who is responsible for it, all the s…
/r/MensRights25/05/18 02:57 PM
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There’s no problem with paternity testing, but lots of problems with mandatory paternity testing. Forcing men to have medical tests they don’t want infringes on their freedom. It’s also not the government’s or taxpayers jobs to help people avoid awkward conversations in romantic relationships.
/r/MensRights25/05/18 01:52 PM
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Why do you want to make all men feel the need to do this? Men are already aware that paternity testing is an option available to them. Do you mean you want to enforce mandatory testing?
/r/MensRights25/05/18 12:44 PM
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It sounds like you already know this qualifies as a crime, but just in case you are doubting yourself (which would be very normal) - what you are describing is definitely illegal. Having sex with her at a later date doesn’t matter, and the fact that you didn’t report it because you didn’t want to get her in trouble also doesn’t matter. Neither are inconsistent with victims’ reactions to sexual assault. This shit is confusing as fuck. As far as reporting the case, I don’t think anyone here is qua…
/r/MensRights25/05/18 04:59 AM
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The University of Akron says it will not allow a STEM professor to conduct an "experiment" by artificially boosting the final grades of female students by a "level or two." The first sentence of your link. There is no movement, he just claimed it was.
/r/MensRights24/05/18 08:22 PM
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So you concurrently hold the belief that women should stand up for themselves, and also that women need to be told to shut up.
/r/MensRights24/05/18 04:29 PM
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And there’s nothing wrong with that, because I’m assuming you are an adult and understand boundaries and what sex is about. Do you think it’s healthy for inexperienced 15 year olds to choke and dominate their girlfriends?
/r/MensRights24/05/18 04:25 PM
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Don’t spread false information. He was shut down for violating gender discrimination policies before anyone’s grades were bumped. This was only newsworthy when it was happening.
/r/MensRights24/05/18 04:19 PM
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Porn is confusing for young people. I don’t see anything sexist here. Perhaps those comments were banned too.
/r/MensRights24/05/18 03:25 PM
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Nah, I think it’s all considered horseshit by now. That was my point.
/r/MensRights24/05/18 10:57 AM
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I didn’t claim that female psychologists have fallen into any trap, nor does it appear that any female psychologists were consulted for this article. Julia Shaw specializes in false memories and often references the “satanic panic” media hysteria in the 80s and 90s involving repressed memories of child molestation when speaking about her work. The author is linking these key words to #metoo, which he seems to think has something to do with women reporting abuse of their fathers. Meanwhile she ha…
/r/MensRights24/05/18 10:55 AM
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I have no idea. Why would you bring it up if you can’t source it?
/r/MensRights24/05/18 03:25 AM
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This article stitches together disparate unrelated research and uses Freudian bullshit to lend credibility to construct a non-existent false memory hysteria for naive people to post and comment on for internet points. As soon as someone makes a meme illustration the embarrassing lack of critical thinking skills of anyone who blindly buys into this, the cycle will be complete and we can start all over.
/r/MensRights24/05/18 03:15 AM
1

“Feminists” is not a source.
/r/MensRights24/05/18 02:47 AM
1

So what’s the point then?
/r/MensRights24/05/18 02:41 AM
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Do you also subscribe to Freud’s claim that all boys want to kill their fathers and have sex with their mothers?
/r/MensRights24/05/18 02:38 AM
0

Who is “they”
/r/MensRights24/05/18 01:56 AM
1

so they want debt relief for women only I have to ask you to provide a source for this. There was a post in the past 48 hours containing the numbers you are citing with a title speculating that women are probably going to decide this is sexist and fight for debt forgiveness for women only. It’s really unsettling if you saw this and are now recalling and spreading it as a true statement.
/r/MensRights24/05/18 12:53 AM
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Oh good, I’m glad you didn’t take it that way, thanks for letting me know. I have so much stimulus in my mind with this research that I got nervous I had been too all over the place and just vomiting words everywhere and offending people. I’ve been skimming replies during client mtgs so my reading comprehension is impaired. Will review more carefully later this evening.
/r/MensRights23/05/18 11:35 PM
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Hey, will take a look at all of this — I just realized in addition to that point being a stream of conscious thought, it also lacks context and might come across as something resembling a diagnosis of what is wrong with men — I meant entirely the opposite. I was definitely trying to get at questioning how society can understand and treat men and boys better. My thinking around that was potentially a need to understand what younger boys need from adults to process emotion, that might be different…
/r/MensRights23/05/18 08:34 PM
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Sounds like the best outcome then
/r/MensRights23/05/18 03:00 AM
2

cameras are only in men’s bathrooms because only men are taking the exam (hypothesis) all mentions of restrooms are specific to “men’s restrooms,” meaning that there are also women’s restrooms in the building (assumption) Everyone is cheating in the empty and unmonitored women’s restrooms.
/r/MensRights23/05/18 02:49 AM
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It sounds like only men are taking these exams, though that is only mentioned in one article and it’s not clear at all, so I take it with a grain of salt. I’m mainly going on the reaction of protesters - they aren’t mentioning gender parity, only invasion of privacy. However, it would be odd to specify “men’s restrooms” if there wasn’t a female counterpart, so I’m not sure what to think here.
/r/MensRights22/05/18 05:30 PM
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I would argue that this is a good example of why we need to apply basic critical thinking to things we read on the internet. There are many very obvious clues that this is fake.
/r/MensRights22/05/18 04:38 PM
1

I’m not sure why you’re quoting me in your comment, you didn’t address anything I said. Do you want male only spaces for a particular reason you would like to discuss?
/r/MensRights22/05/18 04:31 PM
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No, more couples can’t afford kids because of student debt.
/r/MensRights22/05/18 01:55 PM
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Yeah seriously. This lesson was clearly designed to expose and address bias, not perpetuate it. It’s unfortunate if the teacher facilitated it poorly. The takeaway should have been that anyone can be a victim of sexual assault, and it’s not ok to suggest that anyone deserves or invited it due to their clothing choices.
/r/MensRights22/05/18 01:52 PM
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It’s a co-working space
/r/MensRights22/05/18 01:39 PM
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How do you define girls stuff? Women want a space to work, talk about their careers, and have intellectual conversation without the company of people who view them as strange ritualistic feminist dumps who are only capable of talking about men and girl stuff. People who say things like this often claim that women face no discrimination in the workplace, while concurrently holding the attitude that men do all the real work and women have no interest in these careers, and then are outraged when wo…
/r/MensRights22/05/18 01:37 PM
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I’m not seeing any bias. It’s possible that is because of my own bias though, I’m willing to consider your points. What stands out to you as feeling off?
/r/MensRights22/05/18 12:41 PM
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No, if more men did this more men would be punished for it. Society would look at why men feel entitled to criminally control and drug women and question why men who do not want children can’t be bothered to take responsibility and wear condoms. Safe haven laws are not “our safe haven laws” - they aren’t a reproductive right for women or a third option along with abortion and adoption. We don’t casually drop infants at the fire station on the way to soul cycle. This is an emergency intervention …
/r/MensRights22/05/18 11:38 AM
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I've even heard someone seriously say "But if men had the choice, then no one would get circumcised", as though that would be a bad thing. This logic blows my mind. If men wouldn’t get circumcised if given the choice, then it’s pretty fucking obvious that we shouldn’t be doing it.
/r/MensRights22/05/18 01:04 AM
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Thanks for your reply, totally hear you
/r/MensRights22/05/18 12:21 AM
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I know. It’s really disturbing. On a number of levels.
/r/MensRights22/05/18 12:18 AM
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More than ok to use a throwaway. I don’t want anyone to feel uncomfortable. Thank you for writing this. Ive been taking it all in and continue to do so, which is why I haven’t yet replied, but I wanted to acknowledge it in the meantime. One theme that strikes me in reading the comments here, including yours, is a clear pattern of evidence that addressing feelings around circumcision surfaces a significant amount of anxiety for some. I was aware and sensitive to the fact that I was asking people …
/r/MensRights21/05/18 11:06 PM
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Thank you for your willingness and time to write this. I’m reading these as they come in, and taking the time to process and reply more thoughtfully after work. Wanted to acknowledge in the meantime.
/r/MensRights21/05/18 02:02 PM
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Thank you, checking out the threads, will follow up
/r/MensRights21/05/18 01:00 PM
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I understand. I’ve gathered that talking about this surfaces anxiety for some. Take your time Side note, I completely relate to your process of generate > chaos > write > sort. This is the only way I can function in the world. My notes app reads like a fucking crazy person.
/r/MensRights21/05/18 12:11 PM
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Thank you for your feedback. I’m taking a minute to unpack this one so that I can properly process it and ask thoughtful questions, but I wanted to acknowledge it in the meantime. I feel for you and appreciate your willingness to put it out there.
/r/MensRights21/05/18 02:41 AM
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Thank you very much, this is really helpful
/r/MensRights21/05/18 02:34 AM
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Ha, the black magic thing is so absurd that I didn’t know what to even do with it. I think there was a second of irrational fear that there was some whole new issue I’m ignorant of and insensitive to, and my brain just said Enough and chose to go the lazy route and not process it at all. I read this article 3 times and would have never recalled that detail had you not mentioned it.
/r/MensRights21/05/18 02:22 AM
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This is really interesting. I was curious to know if boys who were circumcised and unhappy about it held one parent more accountable than the other, and whether the reasons behind that were conscious or if it was more like “I know it’s not rational, but I can’t help but that I blame x parent more”. This question actually arose from a comment I saw some time ago on this sub from someone who felt more resentment towards his mother. What I haven’t given enough thought to is that fathers have unique…
/r/MensRights21/05/18 02:04 AM
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Because I am focused on men. I wholeheartedly believe that men and women should have equal protections, but the cultural context and target audience I would be attempting to reach would require an entirely different strategy and execution. Attempting to tackle both concurrently would underserve both sides.
/r/MensRights21/05/18 01:40 AM
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Thanks for your reply and the suggestion that I speak to men who can tell me both sides, I will do so. Just wanted to add that I’m interested in all perspectives in order to understand the depth and breadth of what this means to men and boys. The opinions of men who can speak to both sides add an additional layer of insight, but for the purposes of my research, the input of those who who can’t are equally valuable. Won't know what anything is like, not just sex. I would be curious to know more a…
/r/MensRights21/05/18 01:27 AM
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Thank you for your feedback, I understand why you would feel angry, you were denied of your agency. This is already very helpful and I want to respect your privacy, but if you are comfortable answering any questions and any of these are relevant to you, I would be curious to know: If it was possible to go back and advocate for yourself as a child, is there anything you would want your parents and/or your doctor to know outside of what you’ve already told me? If different from your answer to my p…
/r/MensRights21/05/18 01:14 AM
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Thank you so much for your insight. You touch on a number of aspects I haven’t had the opportunity to hear about from others. It sounds like there are lots of layers to this for you, from the religious aspect to the PTSD to the secrecy. I imagine this would create a lot of conflicting and confusing feelings, particularly when you were younger and unequipped to process them. You’ve also addressed several of my questions, including whether the effects you’ve experienced predate the point at which …
/r/MensRights21/05/18 12:08 AM
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Jesus, I’m so sorry. The medical issues sound terrible, and the negligent lack of care and shaming you received in the hospital are criminal. Thanks so much for taking the time to write this.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 11:20 PM
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If you don’t mind me asking, when you say you won’t ever know what it’s like to be uncircumcised, are you referring specifically and exclusively to not knowing what sex would be like? Thanks very much for your feedback
/r/MensRights20/05/18 11:13 PM
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I would say it’s possible to partially attribute this to toxic femininity, yes. I typically disagree with that opinion in this sub, because in the contexts in which it comes up, blaming societal gender expectations for crimes committed by women would give them a pass I feel is underserved, or because the term is being used incorrectly and it’s irrelevant. But without knowing the details surrounding this crime I would say it’s possible that toxic femininity could apply here.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 09:31 PM
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I can’t tell if you are objecting to what I wrote or agreeing with it. Can you clarify what you mean?
/r/MensRights20/05/18 08:06 PM
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No problem! And I meant it when I said you’re really close already, so please don’t scrap what you wrote! The only reason my comments are so long is because the wording of my examples might be total crap you would never say (if I was writing this I would actually be asking you for feedback), so I wanted to give you some insight into the strategy behind them that you can translate into something that works for you. Hope it helps!
/r/MensRights20/05/18 07:37 PM
1

This is a flawed poll. It implies that anyone who believes women should not have to register holds the belief that women should be exempt from registering because they are women I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but probably should be given our current administration. This feels like a manipulation to create division between the sexes as a tactic to bury the issue that men are required to register.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 06:51 PM
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Well, it is a sexist claim. But they haven’t provided any kind of convincing argument that it’s actually happening. If it is, that’s a systemic problem with sexism in their own office culture, and they should address it internally. This article is taking a misleading position that this is a common behavior of men everywhere. I’ve personally never observed or heard about a trend of men using an inability to multitask as an excuse to push menial work on women.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 06:32 PM
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I think other people should have the right to sexually express themselves however they want without inviting offense on either side. No, people should have the right to go to school and work without being harassed. And they do. No one has the right to sexually express themselves without inviting offense, that’s not possible. Any type of expression is subject to reaction, that’s not a consequence you can free yourself of. Sexual advances are by definition invitations, unwanted sexual expression t…
/r/MensRights20/05/18 05:27 PM
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The opinion that women who report rape are just sluts who regret their decisions? Yeah, that’s misogyny.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 05:07 PM
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Sure, go find the worst things on the internet and use them as a benchmark for acceptable behavior.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 04:54 PM
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Ok, here are some ideas for you to consider. Note, I give and receive feedback on strategic positioning all day, so please don’t take this as me tearing apart what you’ve done! I wrote a lot here, but you’re really close already, all you need is a few edits and additions to get there. I’m assuming that you’re young. That’s good. Young people have an immaturity bias working against them, so I would suggest removing the part about people not being human — not because it’s mean or you’re wrong. But…
/r/MensRights20/05/18 04:46 PM
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This is just smart niche marketing. Single affluent women are an underserved market in Fintech.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 02:48 PM
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Women outperform men at investing, I think they’ll be fine. If you find stocks to be too tricky, I suggest index funds.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 02:42 PM
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So basically, you posted inflammatory misogyny to Facebook to get attention and assert yourself over women, and then when you got the ban you were hoping for, you ran back here with your screenshot seeking attention and validation of men.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 01:39 PM
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Is this your petition? If so, i think it’s great that you’re doing it. Would you be open to feedback? I think you’ve set up the problem very clearly and organized your argument well, but I see some opportunities to strengthen it. Let me know if you want some ideas.
/r/MensRights19/05/18 10:09 PM
1

It sounds like your whole school needs some help understanding what consent means.
/r/MensRights19/05/18 08:59 PM
1

Your aggression and anger mask your obvious lighthearted intention.
/r/MensRights19/05/18 08:46 PM
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No, it would likely be a case of psychosis. I fail to see how you would connect this crime with harmful societal expectations of women.
/r/MensRights19/05/18 08:44 PM
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92% of rape allegations are false as the courts have found. False and ridiculous. You’re just trolling You could also state that many women make false rape allegations that are also not reported. Lol. How does that work? Why are you assuming all allegations of rape are genuine. I’m not. Why are you assuming they’re all lies?
/r/MensRights19/05/18 05:16 PM
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God, this sounds like something the people in the Capitol do in Hunger Games before they drink the elixir that makes them throw up so they can eat again. I hope at least that the foreskin is cloned or grown in a lab or something (I’m not a scientist, don’t attack me if that is a stupid thing to say) It’s disturbing either way, and would be equally disturbing if it turned out to just be a marketing tactic and wasn’t actually coming from babies. It’s just not something we should find acceptable. K…
/r/MensRights19/05/18 04:52 PM
1

I don’t think child support should apply to paternity fraud and reproductive coercion. These are extremely rare edge cases. Fight to make exceptions for those cases, not to free all men from responsibility for their own children.
/r/MensRights19/05/18 04:31 PM
1

They lobbied to include more victims period. The expansion was made to count victims of sexual assault outside of a penis in a vagina. Without this, male victims would not be counted at all. They also specifically removed “of a female” as a qualifier.
/r/MensRights19/05/18 04:25 PM
1

Ah, I see the distinction you’re making now
/r/MensRights19/05/18 04:17 PM
1

Huh? This video had no men. And I agreed with him.
/r/MensRights19/05/18 04:16 PM
1

That percentage is not indicative of the number of court cases that are acquitted vs found guilty. It is describing the overwhelming number of rapes that are never reported.
/r/MensRights19/05/18 04:06 PM
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Well yeah okay, no shit, I was exaggerating. Does not align with the series of comments you made attacking everyone’s incredulous stupidity for challenging your flawed logic.
/r/MensRights19/05/18 04:03 PM
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The reason this isn’t a viral story is because it’s not interesting to a mainstream audience, not because it’s controversial. There is no similarity to the guy who said women cant get pregnant from rape. That was news because someone running for office was denying rape and should be disqualified from having any influence on women’s lives; and demonstrating a level of ignorance that should disqualify him from making any kind of decision on behalf of anyone.
/r/MensRights19/05/18 03:49 PM
1

I don’t know why you’re attacking the commenter above you, your logic is so skewed and objectively wrong it’s a little ridiculous to be calling someone dumb. It’s not impossible to prove a false allegation. There are admissions, texts and digital evidence, times and locations not matching up, video surveillance, witnesses... it’s difficult to prove behind a reasonable doubt because the events in question typically happen when two people are alone, this is the same reason rape is difficult to pro…
/r/MensRights19/05/18 03:16 PM
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No one is arguing that all people accused of rape should be termed rapists. You are arguing that anyone who can’t prove rape beyond a reasonable doubt should be termed a liar.
/r/MensRights19/05/18 02:50 PM
2

It doesn’t surprise me by now that you guys dismiss all the issues that women face, but seeing you dismiss black men’s issues in the same manner is quite shocking and so disappointing.
/r/MensRights18/05/18 02:49 AM
0

Lol
/r/MensRights18/05/18 02:40 AM
1

No, why would we? It’s an expense, not a deductible earning or reportable income. Why would divorced parents be entitled some special set of deductions for the same expenses that married parents are responsible for?
/r/MensRights18/05/18 02:35 AM
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Yeah, it’s pretty cliche to lump women into a one dimensional evil man hating mass, but I fully support your takeaway on this individual expression of feminism. No one needs to dismiss the very real issues in this country around race, violence, gun control, etc by hijacking them with a completely different set of issues effecting women. It’s disrespectful and as you said, unnecessary. Some might argue that this video is ripe for translation and reinterpretation, and the resulting iteration is an…
/r/MensRights18/05/18 02:29 AM
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Oh I get it. I wasn’t offended by the comment. I agree with your assessment. The number of upvotes proves your point.
/r/MensRights18/05/18 02:00 AM
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OP, as someone who has been quietly or loudly dismissive of the social media screenshot posts, I feel compelled to acknowledge this one. You make a thoughtful, legitimate and important point. I’m disappointed at the lack of conversation this sparked, and the fact that 3 out of 4 commenters completely missed the point.
/r/MensRights18/05/18 01:42 AM
1

This is indeed a truly disturbing presumption. I would normally say that such a misguided brand strategy will screw them anyway so let them figure it out and deal with the consequences, but the message this is sending is so irresponsible and insulting that’s really not enough. Do you mind elaborating on the conclusion you are drawing from the use of guardian vs chaperone? There’s nothing you could say that would make me disagree with your opinion, I’m just not connecting the dots on that specifi…
/r/MensRights18/05/18 01:06 AM
2

I apologize, you specifically asked for a male perspective and I am a female and I did your survey anyway. I was curious so I looked, and I love research so I couldn’t help myself. Would be very interested to see the methodology and what kind of insights you’re pulling from it once you’ve analyzed the results. It’s an interesting topic. To anyone skeptical, there’s no agenda here. The survey is exactly as OP described, the demographics questions are relevant and non-invasive.
/r/MensRights18/05/18 12:33 AM
-4

Pro choice doesn’t mean you get to abandon your children and dump all the responsibility on women. Are you too exhausted to wear a condom? It’s not hard.
/r/MensRights18/05/18 12:21 AM
3

For the safety of women everywhere, what sort of clothing would you consider entitles you to sexual assault?
/r/MensRights18/05/18 12:18 AM
2

Child support isn’t income. Kids cost money.
/r/MensRights18/05/18 12:03 AM
1

The former legal definition had specific language that rape only applied to women.
/r/MensRights17/05/18 06:57 PM
0

It’s about equal opportunity, not equal representation. Feminists are not interested in forcing women into jobs they don’t want, they care about women having the freedom to pursue jobs they do want. There is nothing inconsistent about that. Women who work in construction for instance, face massive discrimination and sexism that make the corporate world look like a utopia, and that needs to be addressed too. This is something men should care about. More women in trade jobs will force better work …
/r/MensRights17/05/18 01:42 PM
0

Feminists are responsible for expanding the definition of rape to include male victims.
/r/MensRights17/05/18 01:01 PM
1

I said that women who aspire for leadership roles don’t need to qualify that by fighting for equal representation in jobs they don’t want to appease men. Everything else is your own baggage, don’t project it on me.
/r/MensRights17/05/18 12:03 PM
2

No argument there. The two are definitely not on the same level. I’m not a Mimi Agrawal apologist, she sounds like a sociopath.
/r/MensRights17/05/18 09:00 AM
0

Nope. Still not a double standard.
/r/MensRights17/05/18 08:53 AM
1

I hear CEOs are paid decently too
/r/MensRights17/05/18 08:52 AM
1

Huh?
/r/MensRights17/05/18 01:38 AM
1

Fair point, I’ll concede on that one
/r/MensRights17/05/18 01:33 AM
-11

Cool story bro
/r/MensRights17/05/18 01:08 AM
-3

There is no double standard here. Your argument makes no sense.
/r/MensRights17/05/18 12:59 AM
-3

I see this argument here all the time and it has zero merit. No one would tell a male on the C-suite track to stay in his lane because isn’t fighting for the right to be a sewer worker. Women don’t need to qualify their ambition for desirable jobs by campaigning for jobs they don’t want just to appease you.
/r/MensRights16/05/18 11:54 PM
0

Well it sounds like both of us are going on anecdotal evidence, but assuming you are a man, I have exponential experience as a witness the unfiltered inappropriate conversation that goes on when women think they are alone, and crude sexual jokes aren’t a hot topic.
/r/MensRights16/05/18 08:42 PM
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I just provided an example where women were punished for it. Women talk their fair share of shit and create toxic office environments. It’s just typically not sexual.
/r/MensRights16/05/18 08:35 PM
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I agree if it was something of that nature he shouldn’t be fired for it. Based on the limited information reported, it sounds more likely that it was sexual. Even if it was, I don’t necessarily agree that he should have been fired and escorted out instead of given a warning. It doesn’t sound like he is under NDA, if it wasn’t offensive, he would have a lot more sympathy if he just came out and disclosed what was said.
/r/MensRights16/05/18 08:27 PM
-3

No, it’s not a reading comprehension failure on your part. It’s true we don’t know the nature of the joke, but given the fact that he says it wasn’t directed at a specific person, it’s not an unreasonable leap to assume it was sexual in nature. If he had said something like “this client is such a pussy” it would be unlikely that 1. she would have felt the need to record and report him to HR, 2. that he would be fired for it based on a morality clause, and 3. that he wouldn’t just disclose that i…
/r/MensRights16/05/18 08:19 PM
-2

PG 13 is his assessment, not fact. If a teacher told a sexual joke about women containing the word pussy in front of 13 year olds, that would be highly inappropriate.
/r/MensRights16/05/18 08:05 PM
-1

If she could overhear it, it wasn’t private. It’s not as if she planted listening devices.
/r/MensRights16/05/18 08:03 PM
-12

Women don’t tend to tell sexually demeaning jokes in a professional environment. There are certainly cases where those who do are held accountable. The female co-founder of a company called Thinx stepped down as CEO following a sexual harassment complaint, and faced plenty of media coverage and criticism. There are similar cases in recent years. I can’t recall the specifics of those offhand, but it was a big deal at the time because they were all brands built around “female empowerment”
/r/MensRights16/05/18 06:32 PM
3

Feminism vs Logic is a YouTube channel with multiple videos by the same name. If it was called Feminism vs Unicorns you would see that instead. This is just SEO.
/r/MensRights16/05/18 05:53 PM
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I don’t know about this one. No one should have to work in an office where men can be overheard telling crude jokes about women’s bodies through the walls. It’s not as if the phone was planted in his office to record him. Whether this is a fireable offense would vary from office to office but I don’t think a woman doing this would be treated any differently than a man.
/r/MensRights16/05/18 05:38 PM
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Agreed. It feels wrong to think about reserving safe roles for women and pushing more men into danger, but I suppose in a worst case scenario, equality would be a long forgotten luxury. Men would be disposable and women would be vending machines for repopulation. Hopefully it happens far enough in the future that we have a fully AI military force, but not so far that we’re actually fighting the war against the AI.
/r/MensRights16/05/18 02:46 AM
1

How many men’s rights fundraisers has this sub organized, attended or supported?
/r/MensRights16/05/18 01:45 AM
-8

Practically speaking, if things were so dire that the draft was invoked, it wouldn’t make strategic sense to put women in combat. Edit: I don’t know why people would get upset about this comment. If the country was in such a crisis that a draft was necessary to continue to defend ourselves, women in combat would be a total liability. I have no military experience, feel free to provide feedback if I’m wrong.
/r/MensRights16/05/18 01:35 AM
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No one should be forced to give up their life for the state. There’s no way I would be in favor of forcing women to sign up for the draft, I don’t blame anyone who isn’t raising their hand. Why would they? Would you? It’s not equal at all. Men shouldn’t have to do it. We need to abolish the draft for men instead of settling the score by punishing everyone.
/r/MensRights15/05/18 09:30 PM
1

No they don’t. Peruse the comments on all these articles about female teachers. Women don’t tell boys they are lucky to be raped.
/r/MensRights15/05/18 02:15 AM
1

You have got to be fucking kidding me.
/r/MensRights15/05/18 02:00 AM
-10

Why don’t you go talk to your black friends about this grave injustice you’ve endured and get back to me.
/r/MensRights14/05/18 12:18 PM
-4

There are TONS of MRA fundraisers tha— Oh wait.
/r/MensRights14/05/18 11:36 AM
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Like anyone here would go to a fund raiser that benefited women. Quit tripping all over yourselves about discrimination.
/r/MensRights14/05/18 01:38 AM
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Because they hosted a fund raiser for domestic violence?
/r/MensRights14/05/18 01:33 AM
2

Who is telling you or anyone else they have to vote based on gender? Is it unfathomable that women are getting into the political sphere because they’re qualified?
/r/MensRights13/05/18 11:00 PM
1

These are examples of women being assholes, doing things that are more associated with women than men. Women aren’t not held to an unfair standard by society that tells them “real women gossip” and the women in the receiving end of this behavior aren’t told “women can’t be the victims of gossip.”
/r/MensRights13/05/18 05:15 PM
3

You clearly don’t care, you just used a young man’s suicide as an opportunity to whine about women. You didn’t even bother to learn his name and write a coherent title.
/r/MensRights13/05/18 12:04 PM
1

Ok this was kind of funny, I’ll give you that. You’re still WRONG, but I still laughed.
/r/MensRights12/05/18 08:59 PM
1

I appreciate you saying this, especially given that you aren’t in agreement with feminism overall. I also know that these men don’t represent all MRAs, I think they did a great disservice to this organization and the women they help, but on the broader spectrum they are doing far more damage to the public perception of their own side.
/r/MensRights12/05/18 08:53 PM
1

Thanks so much for reading them with an open mind, I know the second source could have reigned it in a little. Women from this organization spoke on a panel discussion I attended recently. It was really solid and no one had any time or interest in sitting around bashing men. As far as your question on similar groups for men - in the career space specifically, I don’t feel it’s an equivalent in most cases. The reasons the women I know aren’t getting the same career opportunities is because they a…
/r/MensRights12/05/18 08:52 PM
2

Thank you for clearing this up!
/r/MensRights12/05/18 06:26 PM
1

You are correct. Part of the reason the age gap exists is because women need to be more assertive in pushing for higher positions and negotiating higher salaries. This organization was in place to help women gain the skills and confidence to do that. The overall tone of your comment makes me think you may not have meant any disrespect, but saying they are encouraging women to work harder and get more work done to earn their promotions is demeaning. The women who attend these events in my area ar…
/r/MensRights12/05/18 05:54 PM
1

Men often argue that women would have the same leadership opportunities as men if they wanted them and had equal qualifications, and would be paid the same as men if they negotiated for better salaries. This organization exists to help women who want these positions do just that, and men shut it down. Donating 78 cents and telling them to enjoy their dollar would communicate a clear message that you think women should be held down regardless of merit.
/r/MensRights12/05/18 05:14 PM
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Sure, here are two. The first is more neutral, the second has more details. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/guid/37509CF2-5482-11E8-9B92-727A80E9970B https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.themarysue.com/support-ladies-get-paid/amp/
/r/MensRights12/05/18 04:57 PM
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It’s not a website where you can donate to only women. It’s an organization focused on helping women gain the skills and tools they need to push for higher roles and negotiate better salaries. A man found this idea of ambitious women helping each other work hard to get ahead in their careers based on merit was entirely unacceptable, because it’s not fair that men can’t go to events they have zero interest in attending and are not effected by in any way. He got a lawyer who specializes in petty c…
/r/MensRights12/05/18 03:06 PM
0

Wow.
/r/MensRights12/05/18 12:55 AM
1

Dude, google it.
/r/MensRights11/05/18 11:59 PM
1

Um, no it doesn’t.
/r/MensRights11/05/18 11:47 PM
1

I’m not insisting anything, I don’t think he’s a rapist. I said it that way intentionally to reframe it a different way since we were going back and forth. But I haven’t misrepresented anything. If I rape someone who tells me to stop, I committed rape whether they secretly wanted me to keep going or not. Saying I can’t read men’s minds to know when I can rape them is fucking weird. Why would I want to spot these people? So I can rape them? If someone says no, you don’t need to read their mind. I…
/r/MensRights11/05/18 02:14 PM
2

I would hope that any man or woman having sex with someone new would want to know the other person is comfortable with and enjoying what is happening. This is basic human decency. If people can’t communicate with each other and have mixed ideas about what constitutes consent, we need laws that eliminate the need for interpretation and train healthier behaviors. This article sounds hysterical.
/r/MensRights11/05/18 01:54 PM
1

They weren’t judged innocent, they were acquitted. There was not enough evidence to prove they raped her and not enough evidence to prove it was a false accusation.
/r/MensRights11/05/18 01:03 PM
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They are considered rapists because they are rapists. You keep saying you don’t have the advantage of reading women’s minds to spot opportunities to get away with rape, as if this is somehow in your own defense.
/r/MensRights11/05/18 12:53 PM
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It’s not appropriate to say any of those things. Reminding your friends to keep an eye on their drinks and don’t walk home alone is fine. Telling a rape victim what she could have done differently is unnecessary and lacks compassion. She is already obsessing about every move she made and blaming herself, and she is well aware that walking home alone is dangerous because she was raped. She doesn’t need any “helpful advice” And no please do not tell anyone to dress more conservatively. If you want…
/r/MensRights11/05/18 12:08 PM
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Of course you should not take the risk, because THAT WOULD MAKE YOU A RAPIST. You can not be baited into raping someone.
/r/MensRights11/05/18 10:38 AM
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I will absolutely blame you. Society tells me men can’t be raped, does that make it ok for me to rape a man? Your responsibility is not to your interpretation of what society is telling you, it’s to the person you’re having sex with. If you can’t understand what consent means do not have sex until you do.
/r/MensRights11/05/18 02:48 AM
1

What’s your point
/r/MensRights11/05/18 01:59 AM
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If you weren’t coerced, you should remove the post claiming that you were and write a new one that tells us what your concerns are and what you need help with.
/r/MensRights11/05/18 01:46 AM
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What’s your point? As her friend I might find it a little cringey but how does this hurt anyone else or have anything to do with your rights?
/r/MensRights11/05/18 01:38 AM
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I’m talking specifically about hypersexuality as a symptomatic reaction to a trauma. I imagine men who are raped have similar reactions, though they might manifest in different ways. Who are you referencing when you say she lied about being raped?
/r/MensRights11/05/18 01:32 AM
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Men can not be rape baited. No woman can will you to rape her, you are in full control of your actions. If she says no or stop and you don’t stop, you aren’t technically a rapist, you are a rapist. Your comment really concerns me.
/r/MensRights11/05/18 01:28 AM
0

If a woman pays you to “rape” her, it’s consensual and not rape. This isn’t hard.
/r/MensRights11/05/18 01:03 AM
2

Is there credible or even anecdotal evidence that schools are not hiring male teachers? Genuine question, not skepticism or challenge. I want male teachers in schools as much as I want women in tech. Interested to collect any examples.
/r/MensRights11/05/18 12:59 AM
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Or simply ask the establishment to change the sign. If they don’t, proceed.
/r/MensRights11/05/18 12:47 AM
1

This is fucking brilliant.
/r/MensRights11/05/18 12:44 AM
1

Universal answer: yes it’s rape.
/r/MensRights11/05/18 12:30 AM
3

This “study” is pure bullshit. Men are not so fragile that opening the door for them makes them feel inferior.
/r/MensRights11/05/18 12:27 AM
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If you distrust a woman to the point where you feel the need to record sex to protect yourself, why are you having sex with her?
/r/MensRights11/05/18 12:22 AM
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Then you should establish a safe word so that either one of you have the ability to communicate that you want it to stop.
/r/MensRights11/05/18 12:13 AM
2

Women do not literally want to be literally raped. If you can’t tell the difference between fantasy and reality; and the difference between consensual submission and rape, you should not be having sex.
/r/MensRights11/05/18 12:09 AM
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If a woman doesn’t tell you beforehand that when she says “stop”, she doesn’t mean it, that’s called “normal” and you should assume that when she says stop she does mean it and you should stop. Men who don’t understand consent are called “rapists” and can destroy your life if they want to.
/r/MensRights11/05/18 12:00 AM
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Hypersexuality is often about regaining control. Proving to yourself that you’re “normal” and not damaged or dysfunctional. Forming distorted ideas about sex as a game to win, detaching emotionally, devaluing your own worth. Things like that.
/r/MensRights10/05/18 11:07 PM
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You have zero evidence of this happening. A rape fantasy is not indicative of wanting to be raped. Acting it out is consenting to submission, not rape. This requires trust and clear communication to establish boundaries and safe words. Rough or submissive sex is not a fantasy that is “outside the norm.” It’s entirely healthy and normal. There is nothing wrong with safely acting out those fantasies, as long as it happens within established boundaries with full consent from both parties. If you ar…
/r/MensRights10/05/18 05:27 PM
1

You completely changed the question.
/r/MensRights10/05/18 01:35 PM
0

91% of Google’s total population is white and Asian. Men make up 80% of tech roles. 2% of Google employees are black. 1 in every 100 tech roles is held by a black man or woman. I have no doubt that these employees are looked at as less competent by white male peers.
/r/MensRights10/05/18 01:34 PM
-1

You’re really manipulating statistics to support this victim mentality. You make it sound like 25% of men desperately want children and are powerless to have them. Why would you assume these men are the bottom 25%? Or that they aren’t having romantic relationships? Some men don’t want kids, some haven’t gotten around to it yet, some can’t support children. Some men are incapable of relationships, some don’t bring anything to the table, some are just unlucky.
/r/MensRights10/05/18 12:32 PM
1

Weak attempt to avoid the actual question
/r/MensRights10/05/18 05:05 AM
1

Really? A man and a woman each wake up on their 40th birthdays and realize it’s time to settle down. Who do you think has a better shot at having children? I think you can reason your way through this one without me.
/r/MensRights10/05/18 01:47 AM
4

This is satire. No need to apologize on behalf of women.
/r/MensRights10/05/18 01:07 AM
-3

Please tell me how a slave and a white man with a legacy of wealth and power had equal opportunities. Also, please tell me why men’s rights is only for white men?
/r/MensRights10/05/18 12:55 AM
0

I don’t even know what that means, it’s completely out of context.
/r/MensRights10/05/18 12:48 AM
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Masculinity isn’t toxic. Telling men they are lucky to have sex regardless of whether they were a willing participant is toxic.
/r/MensRights10/05/18 12:46 AM
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Without having had the time to dive into the research, my initial response is that in this age bracket, men have a much larger pool of available partners to choose from than women.
/r/MensRights10/05/18 12:35 AM
1

Was only asking for a link to the research. I genuinely didn’t get the point you were making and was curious to hear more.
/r/MensRights10/05/18 12:25 AM
1

Sorry I overestimated you. I’ll try to speak in simpler terms next time I’m giving you a compliment and exploring your idea.
/r/MensRights10/05/18 12:19 AM
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154 years is only a couple generations removed from slavery. It’s not like people just woke up the next morning and had opportunities.
/r/MensRights10/05/18 12:13 AM
2

Was this a highly publicized case outside the US? This article is so oddly written, it provides no context of what actually happened.
/r/MensRights09/05/18 11:47 PM
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This is really interesting, but I’m having trouble connecting the dots in your post. I’m following up until the point where she states women are “recycling” men who already have children. Can you clarify what you’re drawing from that and what conclusion you’re making? Also can you link a source? I would be interested in reading.
/r/MensRights09/05/18 11:39 PM
1

I took the time to write all of that, and thats what you heard? Of course I’m not arguing against a support group, how many fucking times do I have to tell you that? Your knee jerk reactions are really starting to wear on me.
/r/MensRights09/05/18 10:21 AM
1

Abuse is not an acceptable quirk
/r/MensRights09/05/18 03:46 AM
1

No one is filing lawsuits against a male only play date, funded or not. Calm down.
/r/MensRights09/05/18 03:24 AM
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The quote in your title makes me sick to my stomach. I can’t imagine a father betraying his son like that. India hates women, so comparing genders is not wise. But NO child should ever be victimized, and boys are at risk in a misogynistic society. They need the same protections and attention.
/r/MensRights09/05/18 03:13 AM
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It’s not funny. Of course the numbers are higher. Rape doesn’t get reported, that’s common sense. It’s common sense that the numbers are higher for male victims too. People think women who report rape are lying sluts, and they think men who report rape aren’t even MEN. Among all the other common narratives.
/r/MensRights09/05/18 03:00 AM
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I’m not invalidating your point that society makes it very difficult for male victims, it makes me sick when I see all the vile comments on articles reporting a female teacher raping a male student. But feminists aren’t leading the charge on this one, nor are they perpetuating it. This attitude is classic toxic masculinity, and feminists have a huge problem with that.
/r/MensRights09/05/18 02:47 AM
1

Are you advocating that abuse is an acceptable price of entry for women to hold positions of leadership?
/r/MensRights08/05/18 07:57 AM
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He is being accused of physical assault. The alleged abuse often happened during sex. He says he engaged in consensual role play. The women say they did not consent to being hit and choked, and the abuse happened outside of sex as well.
/r/MensRights08/05/18 07:37 AM
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I don’t have to say a thing to disprove your point, you discredited yourself when you unironically equated “oppression” with “google employee.” Your opinion is the very definition of white privilege.
/r/MensRights08/05/18 05:17 AM
-5

Let me introduce you to the white guy who thinks a career at Google is a key marker of oppression...
/r/MensRights08/05/18 12:54 AM
2

There’s only one way to find out
/r/MensRights07/05/18 11:52 PM
1

But that goes both ways, no? I often feel the same so I don’t blame you for feeling that way, but there are assholes everywhere and these comments don’t represent genders as a whole, and the problems don’t cease to exist when we invalidate them.
/r/MensRights07/05/18 04:51 PM
-3

You can have empathy for one thing, be angry about something else, and care about a third. All simultaneously. It’s not hard.
/r/MensRights07/05/18 10:59 AM
4

This is so fake and pathetic
/r/MensRights07/05/18 03:50 AM
4

Are you capable of considering the potential mindset of someone who is entering “rape” in a search field? Do you know how much damage you could do by calling someone looking for support after being raped a liar? Do you think you’re being edgy?
/r/MensRights07/05/18 03:48 AM
1

Can you quote that? I cant find anything in the article that mentions mothers or fathers specifically.
/r/MensRights07/05/18 02:57 AM
1

What point? I don’t need a man to organize a men’s rights event for me. I would expect him to organize a men’s rights event for himself. I would be happy to show up to support many of the issues I see discussed here. So would my feminist friends. Every time I see someone post to this sub trying to rally people together to organize something it gets no traction and a bunch of excuses. It’s hard to take that seriously. Women aren’t likely to do your homework for you if you aren’t willing to do som…
/r/MensRights07/05/18 02:02 AM
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Only this sub could turn an attack on women into an attack on women.
/r/MensRights07/05/18 01:00 AM
5

What is wrong with you
/r/MensRights07/05/18 12:58 AM
1

I can understand why some people would be upset by that. I don’t think it’s bad for boys and girls to have some of their own activities. You being a scout yourself, I would be inclined to take your word when you say it has benefited you to have such a group. I don’t see an argument that this is feminizing boys though, what does that mean? And you mention that this is one of many examples? Edit: accidentally posted as a new comment instead of a reply
/r/MensRights07/05/18 12:18 AM
1

That’s not what discrimination means
/r/MensRights06/05/18 11:57 PM
2

What would you consider to be examples of society trying to feminize young boys?
/r/MensRights06/05/18 10:10 PM
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On the wage gap note - what industry does she work in and what is her office culture like? (You don’t actually have to answer this, I’m just suggesting you consider it.) I work in a male dominated industry with a proven wage gap that factors in seniority, hours worked, etc. Women are paid less for equal roles and underrepresented in leadership roles, most minority groups of both sexes are vastly underrepresented across all levels. There is a lot of sexism. I worked in one environment where I lov…
/r/MensRights06/05/18 07:33 PM
2

ETA: I am not qualified here — if anyone with knowledge of this situation finds anything I’ve said to be problematic, please let me know and I will edit immediately. I would never want to spread false information or make irresponsible suggestions. I’m so sorry. This is heartbreaking and I wish I could help you. I can’t imagine what this must be doing to you. Based on the title of this post alone, I was initially going to mention the very rare but serious possibility that your wife is suffering f…
/r/MensRights06/05/18 06:21 PM
1

Correct, there is unfortunately no 50/50 compromise on this one. To your point, requiring two signatures for an abortion doesn’t give both people a voice, it gives the man full control. Not requiring the father’s consent gives the woman full control. Ideally, in a relationship both parties would consider each other’s wishes and come to a decision together, but the ultimate call always goes to the person whose body it’s happening to. Look at it another way. Suppose I was two weeks pregnant and so…
/r/MensRights06/05/18 03:50 PM
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I did. It’s not about women and doesn’t dismiss men at all. The title of the article is not gendered, its about a rise of suicide in the US. They note a 200% spike in suicide among young women, which was a higher rise than any other age group and certainly notable. This is cited in between facts about every other group in the study. This article was published two years ago. People who post these out of context screenshots and clickbait titles all the time are asking for people to accuse men of h…
/r/MensRights06/05/18 01:44 PM
-4

Did you actually read this article before posting it here?
/r/MensRights06/05/18 07:48 AM
0

Please explain to me how spreading my body across two seats is different from a man spreading his body across two seats.
/r/MensRights06/05/18 07:33 AM
2

Are you drunk? This kid thinks a man should have the right to restrict abortion, thereby controlling a woman’s body. I am opposed to that idea. As evidenced by your detailed and articulate comment further up in the thread, you are against this as well. What’s the problem here? We do not need to call the police because the man in question is hypothetical and did not force anyone to have a child against her will. Nor am I talking about the law, because there is no such law that would allow this to…
/r/MensRights06/05/18 07:24 AM
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How is being opposed to allowing a man to force a woman to undergo a minimum year-long dangerous and traumatic medical condition a “men vs women thing”? You say that like I’m being petty. Where did government officials enter the conversation and why are you quoting the census to me? Let’s just agree to not make medical decisions for each other.
/r/MensRights06/05/18 06:23 AM
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What would stop her from getting literally any other man to sign her permission slip?
/r/MensRights06/05/18 06:06 AM
-1

Ok I’ll go on the train tomorrow and lie down across two seats for comfort while everyone else stands. I can’t read minds so anyone unable to express their desire for me to not be a dick is unfit for society.
/r/MensRights06/05/18 05:10 AM
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Please explain how you are going to enforce this and why you think a man should have more control over a woman’s body and medical decisions than she does.
/r/MensRights06/05/18 04:58 AM
2

Let us know when you get around to organizing an event we can show up for
/r/MensRights06/05/18 04:45 AM
2

And if the father does not consent?
/r/MensRights06/05/18 04:24 AM
-2

Someone taking up two seats on the train should not have to be asked to close his legs to allow others to sit.
/r/MensRights06/05/18 04:19 AM
1

No worries, I figured it was for someone else but wasn’t sure. I wasn’t the one who downvoted your comments. (Edit: I’m unsure if your comments were actually downvoted) I have conflicting feelings about the sex offender registry. The short answer is no, I am not ok with anyone being put on a list that makes them vulnerable to violence. That feels barbaric. I’m not ok with dangling rape accusers in front of sexual predators as a punishment, and see that as a unique circumstance with no equivalent…
/r/MensRights06/05/18 12:16 AM
2

Not sure why anyone would disagree with this, you are correct. Targeted efforts with a unified internal objective and clear external message would be far more effective.
/r/MensRights05/05/18 11:50 PM
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This is not “relatable”. A woman who takes up a seat on crowded public transit for her stuff is objectively an asshole. It’s entirely warranted to ask her to move it, other women wouldn’t tolerate this either. I highly doubt you spend much time on the subway if you are imagining it to be full of entitled women that expect men to move to accommodate their handbags. The subway is full of men who egregiously spread out. Some of them are obliviously entitled, others are outwardly entitled and hostil…
/r/MensRights05/05/18 04:45 PM
0

Nothing? I’m not sure what you mean.
/r/MensRights05/05/18 02:47 PM
2

There is plenty of evidence that predatory people target vulnerable victims. Serial murderers and rapists target prostitutes because they are less likely to be reported missing, less likely to be cared about, and less likely to be believed.
/r/MensRights05/05/18 02:39 PM
1

It depends on the context of the conversation. People committing these crimes have very different motivations and mindsets. The societal problems feeding them, the mental health issues driving them, and the ways in which we might intervene to prevent them from happening in the future are all very different.
/r/MensRights05/05/18 02:22 PM
2

Not everything is hypocrisy. I do have problems with the sex offender registry but the risk of predatory women shopping it to find men they can falsely accuse of rape is not one of them.
/r/MensRights05/05/18 01:29 PM
0

She is threatened more because she’s a woman. It’s ok to acknowledge that.
/r/MensRights05/05/18 12:24 PM
2

It should be omitted from the discussion. Going into a public place and murdering strangers is very different than murdering your children.
/r/MensRights05/05/18 11:54 AM
2

Yes it is racial. No one would have called the police if they were white either.
/r/MensRights05/05/18 02:26 AM
3

Curious, how was it found that she hadn’t been raped?
/r/MensRights04/05/18 11:59 PM
-2

Oh come on. This embarrassing attempt to mock feminism is six years old and almost certainly written by a man. The likelihood that you lack the critical thinking skills to navigate something this egregious is is so low that I can only assume you are trolling this sub to laugh at the knee jerk rage you inspire, or you are the author.
/r/MensRights04/05/18 11:48 PM
1

The number of downvotes on this comment is disturbing.
/r/MensRights04/05/18 09:14 PM
1

The fact that there are results for both suggests they don’t. If they did, all the results would be for masculinity. All this proves is that feminists talk about toxic masculinity more than masculinity.
/r/MensRights04/05/18 01:50 PM
1

Not one person told her it was a repressed memory.
/r/MensRights04/05/18 03:15 AM
1

Granted you may get the occasional misogynist posting on a web forum No, you get the “occasional” mass killing. The misogynists posting on web forums are the face of the movement, and the reason why it’s not taken seriously.
/r/MensRights03/05/18 12:36 PM
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This is so sad Work has always been the only source of self-esteem for this cohort, and they resist exposing what they see as failures to family and community, which are, according to social policy, the only support groups they have.
/r/MensRights03/05/18 11:23 AM
2

Ah. An epidemic.
/r/MensRights03/05/18 11:07 AM
1

What women are profiling male teachers?
/r/MensRights03/05/18 03:50 AM
3

Your boys are lucky to have you. What about all the boys who don’t have the benefit of a strong male role model at home? Would they not benefit from men in education?
/r/MensRights03/05/18 03:48 AM
2

Source that women are “leaning toward the regret side of the spectrum”?
/r/MensRights03/05/18 03:38 AM
1

Followup. (long, sorry) When I said why don’t we let men decide what they need, it was in response to the people who plowed in to dictate how a group should operate with zero consideration for the people it was intended to help and little objective to help anyone at all. This conversation was such an opportunity to help men, and was rapidly derailed by people who only saw an opportunity to attack women, trampling all over men in the process. I would have liked to see discussion around things suc…
/r/MensRights02/05/18 04:12 PM
1

Please post this to CMV
/r/MensRights02/05/18 04:38 AM
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I get how my comment could be unclear out of context. This thread happened in such rapid succession that I recall a more linear flow than is actually the case. I’ll follow up in a separate comment to clarify and add some thoughts to the original topic, as I am definitely in favor of such a group. But first I wanted to respond to your feedback about the problem of “let men decide what they need.” Could you elaborate a little more on this, or give me an example scenario? Im very interested in what…
/r/MensRights02/05/18 04:08 AM
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Did you reply to the wrong person? I spent half the day yesterday advocating for this group.
/r/MensRights30/04/18 10:07 PM
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I don’t know how it works. I would be very surprised if the scale is different for men and women if you’re curious about that specifically. They are dedicated to affordable care whereas therapists are for profit, so they may operate in more affordable ways. You could always call them. I’m not knowledgeable about the factors therapists look at to determine eligibility, but if based solely on income I wouldn’t expect your childcare expenses to be deducted any more than my rent would be. Therapists…
/r/MensRights29/04/18 10:20 PM
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I never said you were not a male victim, I would never diminish what happened to you no matter how crazy your views are. You made a whole big thing about me coming in here trying to protect women, I clarified for you that I was talking about MALE victims. This exchange we’re having isn’t even coherent. Let’s just not.
/r/MensRights29/04/18 09:40 PM
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I was talking about MALE victims. The only mention I’ve made of women in this thread was when I asked what the expectation was. If men benefit from female support, I’m here to give it. If men would benefit from a space that doesn’t include women at all, I will support that by not intruding. What happened to you is terrible and you should have whatever support you need. This should not be a conversation about women.
/r/MensRights29/04/18 07:33 PM
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This is not one of those times. Male victims not getting the support they need is a problem in society. Fix that.
/r/MensRights29/04/18 07:13 PM
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May I suggest that everyone here calm down for a second and remember that male victims of sexual assault have been robbed of their agency already. Why don’t you let THEM decide what they need. Why don’t you ASK them. This conversation is an opportunity for PROBLEM SOLVING. The percentage of comments here that don’t even acknowledge victims is disgusting. Take your bullshit feminist copypasta to literally any other post.
/r/MensRights29/04/18 07:10 PM
1

Calm down on the theatrics. Do you realize that not once in your thousand word essay did you acknowledge the existence of victims, much less express compassion for them?
/r/MensRights29/04/18 06:50 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? Male victims absolutely have the right to be heard and supported. Please do not deny them the support structures they need so you can send some illogical political message to feminism. What you are saying doesn’t even make sense.
/r/MensRights29/04/18 06:34 PM
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Why don’t you ask them.
/r/MensRights29/04/18 06:22 PM
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You may want to clarify your guidelines a bit. It’s unclear whether the group is restricted to only supporting male victims, or if it’s also restricted to only men. Also, please consider including male victims of sexual assault too.
/r/MensRights29/04/18 02:04 PM
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Your gaslighting technique could use some work bro
/r/MensRights29/04/18 04:39 AM
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Says the guy who is derailing an important conversation to whine about imaginary women.
/r/MensRights29/04/18 03:48 AM
1

Its really not though. Masculinity and men are great. Being male or having characteristics and coping mechanisms typically associated with men isn’t toxic masculinity. The term typically describes a system, and is only applied to the individuals who perpetuate it. For instance, the men (and women) who tell boys they should feel lucky to be raped by their teachers. Those people should be shamed. Women are indeed harmed by toxic masculinity but that’s not the only reason they say they want to dism…
/r/MensRights28/04/18 11:45 PM
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Nope, their whole mission is centered around affordable access to healthcare. Sliding scale applies to both and you have to qualify for it. Birth control might be covered free for people who can’t afford it, but that makes sense and benefits everyone. My guess is that government programs would be the ones funding that rather than PP, but I’m not sure.
/r/MensRights28/04/18 10:33 PM
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Literally a 30 second google search. (You know I had to say that, but I’m not actually judging you) I’m glad you asked the question, because I realized I didn’t actually know the answer. We typically hear about Planned Parenthood from people who want to control women’s access to birth control and abortion. Anyway, I was glad to see they provide men with access to healthcare too! Does this appear to be comprehensive of men’s reproductive needs? (Also a serious question, I don’t really know what y…
/r/MensRights28/04/18 10:06 PM
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No one is screaming against equality for men here, suggesting otherwise is disingenuous. I’m not going to lay down in traffic to defend this one but it’s hardly egregious and they have a valid point. The thing women object to is when men only bring up men’s issues as a means to hijack and derail conversation about issues that effect women. Women have unique experiences and problems. Acknowledging them is not hypocritical to equality, and diminishing them ranges from demeaning to misogynistic. Wo…
/r/MensRights28/04/18 08:05 PM
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She said a mother providing hygiene and medical care for her infant is not a child molester. It sounds like she has a son who is not circumcised and knows quite a bit about childcare. I would be a lot more concerned about a parent who thinks bathing a baby is sexual.
/r/MensRights28/04/18 04:17 AM
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These findings don’t validate your hypothesis, they completely contradict it. The whole study was based on proven knowledge that men overestimate sexual interest and women underestimate or accurately estimate. The objective was to test if this changes over time, and found that it does — in long term relationships women overestimate their partner’s sexual interest and men get it right. in casual, short-term relationships, men tend to overestimate a partner’s sexual interest (while women either un…
/r/MensRights28/04/18 12:50 AM
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Didn’t see this until now, some of the responses I get here are so fucked up they feed my real life anxiety and I have to step away. Thanks for your reply, this deserves a response. Will edit.
/r/MensRights27/04/18 05:04 AM
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I mean, given the way she articulated the letter, the specific details and tone, I’m inclined to believe her. Kids cost money. Sure, there are two sides to every story and we’re only hearing one of them. But nothing she said implies greed. It’s an unreasonable assumption to assume every woman makes up sociopathic lies, and is therefore guilty by default. Lots of fathers are shitty about child support. You know that doesn’t make men’s rights any less important, right?
/r/MensRights27/04/18 04:55 AM
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It also clearly states that the percentage is calculated from underreported income.
/r/MensRights27/04/18 01:33 AM
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Definitely use 33 examples of men sexually harassing women to show everyone how bad feminism is.
/r/MensRights26/04/18 11:30 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/8f0rdp/comment/dxztoqs?st=JGGF98EG&sh=74855a47
/r/MensRights26/04/18 11:08 AM
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fremdscham
/r/MensRights26/04/18 03:06 AM
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Birth control allows men and women to control the timing, spacing and number of their children.
/r/MensRights25/04/18 02:22 AM
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It takes two people to make a child. Barring outlier circumstances, both chose to have sex, both are responsible for taking steps to preventing pregnancy, and both are responsible for the care of a child that results. There are no exclusive decisions and actions. You seem to insinuate that women don’t take responsibility they are “just as capable of” as men, while arguing that men shouldn’t have any responsibility. If I am misunderstanding your comment, please correct me.
/r/MensRights25/04/18 02:11 AM
1

Of course no one has a monopoly on your time. But depression causes people to isolate themselves, and in doing so they just feel more alone. It’s just a nudge to reach out.
/r/MensRights25/04/18 01:28 AM
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I’m getting an error when trying to view this on mobile, but I hope it paints this in a positive light. I saw something about this elsewhere, and love it. These are great fathers.
/r/MensRights25/04/18 01:13 AM
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Women do have it worse. I don’t claim that women don’t do it, nor do I doubt you didn’t want it when it happened to you. But you said you’ve been sexually harassed twice in your adult life. Women are sexually harassed constantly. Given that you know what it feels like, why wouldn’t you empathize with them instead of diminishing them?
/r/MensRights25/04/18 01:04 AM
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Women aborts, no child, no responsibility for mother or father. Child exists, mother and father share responsibility. You are proposing zero responsibility for men and 100% responsibility for women. Women still have children to support when men cheat, completely irrelevant. Women tricking men into pregnancy is extremely rare. Men trick women into pregnancy too, also extremely rare.
/r/MensRights25/04/18 12:53 AM
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I mean, it’s a direct quote of her letter, there’s no editorializing. If you don’t want to bring attention to the fact that some fathers cheat their kids out of child support, don’t post things you didn’t read, stick a misleading title and a false accusation tag on it, and then claim bias when you get called out.
/r/MensRights25/04/18 12:42 AM
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You are misunderstanding the letter. He is accusing her of using child support to fund her own lifestyle. She is outlining all the childcare expenses that it actually goes towards. He is exploiting loopholes in the system to not report his full income, in order to avoid providing the minimum requirements he is obligated to by law.
/r/MensRights24/04/18 11:12 PM
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Feminists didn’t launch this.
/r/MensRights23/04/18 01:23 PM
0

That’s ridiculous. Do you know how many of the leading researchers, activists, educators and founders of organizations dedicated to autism are women? This tendency to blame everything in the world on “screeching feminists” borders on obsession.
/r/MensRights23/04/18 02:36 AM
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I’m a woman and I hate myself for laughing at this
/r/MensRights21/04/18 03:43 AM
2

I have some thoughts for you. It sounds like this assignment was due today, which seems like an unreasonable time frame if they actually want you to be able to apply critical thought to this. If you have more time let me know and I’ll give you some thought starters.
/r/MensRights20/04/18 05:06 PM
0

Do you have a stance on this to share or...? It seems really out of context here.
/r/MensRights20/04/18 12:52 PM
0

Echoing the commenter above me. It’s nice, not expected. When women are walking and sense someone coming up behind them, it can be unnerving. It’s not because we are assuming the person is going to attack us, or that all men are potential attackers. We’re assessing the situation, not judging the person. When a woman is attacked, everyone jumps in to remind her she has a personal responsibility to be aware of her surroundings, that’s all she is doing. I am a small woman, no one would feel threate…
/r/MensRights20/04/18 12:44 AM
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Has rape fantasies? What does that even mean? Rape is fine because you think she liked it? What is wrong with you? This entire list is disgusting and misogynistic.
/r/MensRights19/04/18 01:03 PM
1

What male role models have feminists destroyed?
/r/MensRights17/04/18 02:51 AM
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I don’t have knowledge on the topic but just did a little research. It looks like in the US this isn’t even legal for brand image reasons. Hooters has lost a lawsuit over it. If I’m understanding the law correctly, gender restricted hiring is only legal if only one gender can do the job. For instance, a woman can’t sue a menswear company that only hires male models, because, obviously. You mention a back-of-house position so any kind of loophole related to brand wouldn’t even apply to you anyway…
/r/MensRights16/04/18 01:53 AM
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Based on the amount of clickbait I see on this sub I was conditioned to doubt your title, but I watched the clip and completely agree with you. This is extremely disappointing and wrong. I don’t know what to say either... :(
/r/MensRights16/04/18 01:42 AM
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Thanks for mansplaining that one to me!
/r/MensRights15/04/18 04:25 PM
1

Twitter feminists were not on trial for rape. It is not a requirement to counter every criticism of a man with one of a woman. That is not a double standard. The texts are highly relevant. If you’re going to do this whole switch the genders thing, do it fairly and examine the actual scenario. read the texts as if they were written by a bunch of women teachers on trial for raping a male student. Would you make the same excuses for them? I wouldn’t.
/r/MensRights15/04/18 11:46 AM
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That’s not how that works.
/r/MensRights15/04/18 11:06 AM
0

Swapped genders, still vile.
/r/MensRights15/04/18 11:06 AM
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The texts were vile misogyny, no one can deny that.
/r/MensRights15/04/18 04:05 AM
0

Is “let’s be equal only when it’s convenient” directed at me? I already recognize that female teachers are treated differently, it’s right in my comment. I don’t blame feminists for that though, it’s not like they are out there defending these people.
/r/MensRights14/04/18 02:24 PM
1

What exactly is your counter argument? How does a woman groping men change/negate/validate a man doing it? Explain this. If you’re going to claim that female doctors “routinely” violate men, you are going to need to provide some evidence. You’ve told me I can’t read, I’m an asshole, I’m a bitch and my period is flowing out of my mouth, and now you’re going around complaining that I’m rude to people. If you can’t state your point without misrepresenting facts and logical fallacies, don’t get upse…
/r/MensRights14/04/18 07:58 AM
1

This is a story about a man sexually assaulting a woman. You claim that this somehow proves discrimination against men. Nowhere in the article or in any of my comments is anything said that implies women are more important than men, or anything that even slightly indicates an “obsession with female victimhood”. It sounds like you are just repeating sound bites completely out of context. Men face plenty of issues, you don’t need strawman arguments and misogyny to legitimize that. I think you need…
/r/MensRights14/04/18 07:18 AM
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All the usual vocabulary in the article. Of course no mention of rape anywhere, just sex and trysts. I was however somewhat encouraged by the comments. Usually they are full claims that teenage boy raped by his teacher is “lucky” and somehow benefits from instant popularity and zero trauma. I scrolled through quite a few comments and saw none of this. Tiny bit of optimism there.
/r/MensRights14/04/18 06:09 AM
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he was fired for “touching a woman’s boob” Gross misrepresentation to downplay sexual assault and incite a reaction. This doctor abused his power to perform multiple invasive, unnecessary, degrading sexual violations to multiple young female patients. not allowing comments regarding female nurses groping men Misleading, clickbait. No men were groped discrimination Bullshit. Neither the actual events or your fabricated version constitute discrimination. he may be wrong He is definitely wrong. And…
/r/MensRights14/04/18 05:44 AM
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The only apologist I see here is you
/r/MensRights13/04/18 06:27 PM
4

Well stated and important post, thank you for writing it
/r/MensRights13/04/18 05:54 PM
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It sounds like some of the proposed gender masking solutions may get more women in for an interview, but I haven’t seen any evidence that it would get them hired. I personally am more concerned with discrimination in the office and company culture. That pushes women out and prevents them from applying in the first place. And then we need more diversity and the cycle continues. It would be interesting to examine the hiring bias across industries and company types. A study by GitHub found that dev…
/r/MensRights12/04/18 04:35 PM
2

Does “short list” refer only to narrowing from a pool of resumes? If I understand this correctly, it sounds like it only applies to getting called for an interview, but doesn’t provide proof that there is discrimination in the interview and hiring process.
/r/MensRights12/04/18 04:20 PM
1

Can you please stop stalking and harassing me?
/r/MensRights11/04/18 01:25 AM
0

Did you even read the article? I have expressed zero opinions or arguments, so no I do not see any fatal mistakes. I simply wanted to understand someone else’s perspective and was curious about the topic. You sound fucking crazy.
/r/MensRights11/04/18 01:21 AM
1

It’s a literal quote from the article. You’re embarrassing yourself.
/r/MensRights11/04/18 01:16 AM
1

I was surprised that girls are better at running, which is not an academic subject. I would have thought boys would have more physical coordination at that age. It was an offhand comment of something I found interesting, what are you so angry about?
/r/MensRights11/04/18 01:10 AM
1

I totally agree with you in almost every point. This women absolutely looks sociopathic. However the point she is making is NOT that white men’s lives are less valuable, it is that these families are getting an outpouring of support and donations because they are young white and male whereas other victims are not valued in the same way. Note, I do NOT agree with or defend this message at all. The community is rallying around these families because this was a tragic loss, for her to say it is onl…
/r/MensRights10/04/18 05:19 PM
1

Thank you, i completely agree with this. I often notice your posts here and you always articulate what I am thinking much more effectively than I can.
/r/MensRights10/04/18 02:33 PM
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Huh? I don’t give a shit about her, she published a tweet that was insensitive and inappropriate and brought criticism upon herself. What I care about is this propaganda. The headline falsely states that masses of women think that the deaths of white men are unimportant, when in reality not even this asshole thinks that. It’s irresponsible for members of this sub to radicalize young angry men who are looking for answers, When someone inevitably finds this post and republishes it, a bunch of peop…
/r/MensRights10/04/18 01:48 PM
1

How do you define implied consent and what would your criteria include?
/r/MensRights10/04/18 12:31 PM
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It’s a horrible tweet and she seems like a horrible person but she’s not saying it’s not so bad because only white males died. She’s already an asshole, you don’t need to falsely editorialize.
/r/MensRights10/04/18 12:08 PM
1

Ok, I just tried reading it again with those points in mind. I took the running point to mean that whatever advantage girls may have at the beginning (which I was surprised to hear was the case) doesn’t last in later years, and yet the reading does — and that this may indicate that boys who need more time than girls to read may be placed at a disadvantage because they are vulnerable to discrimination. i.e, because they are treated as if they aren’t good at reading, and then internalize this, or …
/r/MensRights10/04/18 04:02 AM
0

I’m not following your aversion to the quote. It sounds like they are stressing that the fact that boys may score slightly lower in average on reading at this age should not be attributed to a lack of motivation or ability. Why do you see this as problematic?
/r/MensRights10/04/18 12:53 AM
0

I would say tone deaf and cringey before sensitive
/r/MensRights09/04/18 03:06 PM
1

What further consequences are you talking about? I don’t think I understand your comment. There is no child support when a child is abandoned per safe haven laws, the state takes custody and the child is adopted. If a man surrenders a child that the mother wants I would assume she would notice that her newborn baby has been kidnapped and call the police. I really don’t know how different scenarios play out. Safe Haven is an emergency intervention measure for deeply disturbed or troubled people a…
/r/MensRights09/04/18 03:57 AM
0

Women who aren’t ready to be moms and don’t believe in abortion give up their children for adoption . Abandonment is something a mother would be vilified for, it is not socially or morally acceptable to drop your kids off in a box at a convenience store. The vast majority of parents would be incapable of such an act. Anyone doing this has serious issues. Drugs, abuse, disassociation, mental illness, abuse, etc. That is what safe havens are for, to prevent these babies from harm. They are in no w…
/r/MensRights09/04/18 03:16 AM
0

Ok I’m done. You have zero self control and I’m not responsible for controlling your weird rage. I’m not even going to trade insults, it would feel like I was kicking a puppy or something.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 11:25 PM
-1

So the fathers in those states and PR can take a hike? Got it. The common understanding in the thread was that men do not have this option at all. The majority do. You’re moving the goalposts, and also having a reaction to something I didn’t actually say. Now we can move on to how women can abort (and it is their body, so yes it is their right), but men cannot choose to do so. Men do not get pregnant, so no they can not abort. No one has the right to “abort” a live child. If a woman aborts, ther…
/r/MensRights08/04/18 10:26 PM
-1

I don’t think you know what victim blaming means. All you’ve provided are questionable, easily proven, accusations of people promoting sexual assault.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 08:36 PM
0

Yes, and fathers in the majority of the US can. This isn’t a gotcha. I posted it.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 08:30 PM
2

These are complicated feelings. I won’t try to change your mind. It sounds like this is something you are really struggling with, and I’m sorry about that.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 08:18 PM
1

Please provide a source
/r/MensRights08/04/18 08:03 PM
1

I will once again choose to ignore your consistent condescension and ridiculous accusations. If you can’t engage in civil discussion without speaking to people as if they are beneath you, you aren’t going to get very far in your efforts. I am getting my information from a federal agency within the US government. If you have reason to believe it is false, feel free to share. https://www.childwelfare.gov/pubpdfs/safehaven.pdf In most States with safe haven laws, either parent may surrender his or …
/r/MensRights08/04/18 08:02 PM
0

Yeah, none of this is true. Where are you getting your information? Let me guess...
/r/MensRights08/04/18 06:09 PM
0

The laws are in place for the purpose of protecting babies, by providing parents a safe alternative from criminal behavior. Do you really think normal healthy women sit around and say “hmm, I have career ambitions and am not ready for a child just yet, I wonder if I should abort, adopt, or dump my newborn child at a fire station?”
/r/MensRights08/04/18 05:57 PM
-1

But you are claiming this is a right women have that men do not. Which is not only irrelevant, but also false.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 05:47 PM
2

Hahaaa thanks for clearing that up. Harassment is clearly a myth! I’ll alert the feminists to stand down.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 05:12 PM
4

Clearly fake, calm down.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 05:08 PM
-4

If you think that metoo is a feminist conspiracy aimed at targeting and destroying men for respectfully asking them out or complimenting them, I suggest you talk to the women in your life about their experiences.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 05:00 PM
1

Gotcha, then I must have replied to the wrong person. I don’t agree with your views, but my response referencing safe haven laws is irrelevant, please disregard.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 04:36 PM
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Where did I claim otherwise.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 04:26 PM
-7

Um, no. Women should not have to put up with men harassing them as a cost of entry to maintaining a career. That is insanely sexist. I am quite familiar with the career sacrifices you are attempting to enlighten me on, as I make them every day.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 04:15 PM
-1

This is in no way a women’s rights issue. If a parent is at risk for committing infanticide, we should do whatever we can to protect the child from murder. It’s not a solution or a privilege, it’s an emergency intervention.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 04:07 PM
-1

No, you are expecting people to blindly believe YOUR story. The fact that you are claiming that women were advocating for sexual assault of men without providing any evidence of the context that led you to arrive at this accusation is what causes me to doubt you. You describe a version of events that was extremely polite on your part and yet resulted in you being reviewed and banned. If everything you describe is true, you possess compelling evidence of wrongdoing. And yet you inexplicably chose…
/r/MensRights08/04/18 04:01 PM
-8

Men and women both have ways to prevent a pregnancy. As you said, wear a condom. Neither men or women have the right to abandon children, nor should they.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 02:46 PM
1

Well now you are speaking as if this is a female conspiracy, circumcised children have fathers too.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 02:34 PM
-10

It sounds like women have the choice to either be sexually harassed at work or sexually discriminated at work.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 02:28 PM
1

I was referring to the safe haven laws that were referenced in your comment at the time I posted.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 02:08 PM
36

They should. Dating is really expensive. I think particularly for app dates where two people are meeting for the first time, both people should always throw down money. Would take the pressure off of both sides.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 12:13 PM
0

I can’t be outraged until I see screenshots of what was actually said. Have a feeling this didn’t go down as you describe.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 12:02 PM
-6

How is it dishonest?
/r/MensRights08/04/18 11:41 AM
1

Interest and ability are absolutely linked, we aren’t talking abut brain surgery here, you kinda get a chance to try it out before you commit to anything. Someone who has an average aptitude for coding is either not going to stay interested very long, or they will overcome deficiencies. Why would you think this is restricted to women? You literally think male engineers have no problems with the math curriculum and all females do? I’m not going to bother commenting on all of your statements, whic…
/r/MensRights08/04/18 11:39 AM
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And yet you all fight for the right to abandon your children
/r/MensRights08/04/18 11:15 AM
1

That’s bullshit. Half the developers I know didn’t graduate college. You need a math mindset to be successful at tech. Standardized tests are hardly a compelling argument, particularly from someone who demands citations for a statement as banal and obvious as “girls have the ability to be good coders.”
/r/MensRights08/04/18 03:58 AM
0

Who are all these people going to dinner on a first date?
/r/MensRights08/04/18 03:38 AM
2

Im so sorry to hear this. I can empathize with most things, but this is so far out of my realm I can’t imagine what you must be going through other than it must be a horrible mix of helplessness and betrayal. To say I sympathize would be an understatement. I hope you are safe.
/r/MensRights07/04/18 09:18 PM
2

So supportive of men. I’m sure he’ll feel super comfortable speaking out about his experience now.
/r/MensRights07/04/18 08:51 PM
1

I recently came across and bookmarked this list of links to stories about feminists helping men. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/wiki/mensissues?st=JFPP7AVR&sh=22883b97
/r/MensRights07/04/18 06:17 PM
1

But the reality is that there are parents out there who are desperate, mentally ill, drug addicts, etc and at risk for killing babies. What would you suggest as an alternative?
/r/MensRights07/04/18 05:57 PM
1

I have no idea what you’re talking about
/r/MensRights07/04/18 12:30 PM
1

Thank you. I have refined some of my views as a result of this conversation, I think that’s a positive thing. Have a nice weekend.
/r/MensRights07/04/18 02:01 AM
1

I don’t have time to reply in detail, but I wanted to quickly jump in and acknowledge your comment. I hear you, I really do. These are extremely valid points and I see now where I was missing critical issues in some of my earlier comments and failed to see how I might be perpetuating the problem. I would feel a range of emotion from rage to humiliation and shame if a bunch of men wrote an article discussing their preferences in women’s genitalia. The thought of that conversation being had about …
/r/MensRights06/04/18 09:56 PM
1

I totally understand, thank you for taking the time to explain this to me. I realize that I may have sounded insensitive when I said I took the article as a positive and supportive stance. I was looking at it from a very specific angle where it could be positive in reducing stigma, but I failed to recognize the very problematic issues you bring up. These are indeed unacceptable, and I apologize. I’m giving this some more thought, and genuinely want to understand and correct where I might be well…
/r/MensRights06/04/18 09:44 PM
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If you want to talk about circumcision with women, treat them like people and stop saying shit like this and alienating them. You need female allies on this one, they are out there, and if you ask for empathy and support in a reasonable way and show empathy and support in return, you will see results faster. We aren’t talking about contraceptives, we are talking about circumcision.
/r/MensRights06/04/18 06:03 PM
0

Do you want change or not? Forget contraceptives and focus on this issue and strategies to meet in the middle and gain traction. When you say things like this you alienate your audience and sabotage your cause.
/r/MensRights06/04/18 05:55 PM
2

Thank you, you are correct that my intention was to go first. My thoughts on this is that it is a good issue to start a conversation and seems like a relatively easier win than some of the more highly charged issues. While this is by no means comprehensive, from my observation it seems like there are a few key audiences. Women who are current or future mothers, who aren’t detractors but may not be fully aware of the issue. Give them the benefit of the doubt, their focus is their sons, not men vs…
/r/MensRights06/04/18 05:52 PM
1

I think there is a wider conversation to be had here. My intention is not to be dismissive of your comment, but so as not to derail I’m going to file this one away as something to think about in the future rather than diverting this conversation from the issues around circumcision.
/r/MensRights06/04/18 05:16 PM
3

I didn’t realize that, thanks for the correction
/r/MensRights06/04/18 04:46 PM
2

Well, if insurance companies are paying for viagra and not birth control, that’s not ok. I’m not sure how this is related. Ask women to support you on this issue, some will be on board, some will bring up the times men haven’t stood up for them, and some won’t care either way. Focus on the ones who do. Show them you stand by them, ask them to stand by you. Start a dialogue. Let’s all stop complaining about each other and throwing out whataboutisms, and start developing strategies for how we can …
/r/MensRights06/04/18 01:11 PM
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I don’t know, I think these women are more on your side than you think they are. This really doesn’t strike me as an article written for catty women to discuss what men’s bodies should look like. The majority of these “debate” points are positive (uncircumcised is better) or neutral (it doesn’t matter). Some aren’t, but I don’t see anything that was body shaming. It’s obviously very important to hear from men on this issue, it effects you, not us — but this is one where women can be huge allies …
/r/MensRights06/04/18 12:40 PM
1

I love the non profit charity angle, I don’t think it sounds stupid at all. It’s a great idea.
/r/MensRights05/04/18 07:36 PM
1

Dude, get over yourself if you’re going to tell me to focus and speak down to me. All of my comments to you have been neutral, polite, and interested in hearing your opinion. Yours are condescending and arrogant. I’ve let it go a few times and I’m no longer willing to do so. I can handle being called out on poor arguments or challenged in my opinions, and am completely secure with being proven wrong and giving credit to those who change my mind. But Im not signing up for the cognitive load of ov…
/r/MensRights05/04/18 07:19 PM
1

You keep saying I’m not making sense, but you haven’t told me how a mass shooting isn’t a clear indication that the shooter feels entitled to end the lives of other people. I don’t think the fact that she killed herself negates proof of entitlement to kill other people, but your question is fascinating. I’m not qualified to even guess how these things might all factor together. Is enacting revenge the primary objective, and its so important it’s worth sacrificing my own life for? Or is suicide d…
/r/MensRights05/04/18 06:11 PM
1

I don’t know what the motive was. From what I’ve read, it sounds like revenge. Whatever her motive was, she clearly felt entitled to kill people over it or she wouldn’t have shot them.
/r/MensRights05/04/18 01:21 PM
5

You could, but you would be seriously undermining the actual transwomen, casting doubt that might prevent them from participating in events they are already anxious about assimilating into.
/r/MensRights04/04/18 11:46 PM
1

Editing my comment because it added no value. I say that I am commenting on an action and not a motive because the act of going into a public space and shooting people means the shooter feels entitled to other people’s lives. If they didn’t, they wouldn’t do it. I typically apply endless nuance to every argument to the point that I sometimes confuse myself, so it’s not really my nature to apply such a black and white statement. If you think I’m being too simplistic in my claim, I’m happy to cons…
/r/MensRights04/04/18 03:31 PM
2

No, I am actually making claims about their actions, not their motives. I have no idea what’s going on in their head, nor did I claim to. Entitlement isn’t motive. Someone who commits a mass shooting clearly feels entitled to other people’s lives.
/r/MensRights04/04/18 01:31 PM
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Uhh... the source is that they shot someone.
/r/MensRights04/04/18 01:59 AM
5

Ughh, this is maddening. As a female, it infuriates me when people (men, women, lawmakers, doctors, etc) don’t consider me to be a reliable witness to my own experiences, and I feel the exact same way about this issue for men. I’ve just recently begun to look more into the argument against circumcision after seeing it rise in conversation, so I currently lack the level of knowledge to be able to speak to it at the level it deserves (debunk myths, cite data and global practices, understand opposi…
/r/MensRights03/04/18 10:11 PM
-1

If it’s obviously wrong to follow girls around and take photos of them, why are you defending that behavior here? I didn’t say boys will be boys, I asked you to clarify what you meant by “because, of course” because it sounded like that is what you were implying. If it is not please clarify. I agree with your view that it only makes sense in the context you describe. “Boys will be boys” is not a fallacy and myth that feminists trot out, it is a mindset that they are actively against. The people …
/r/MensRights03/04/18 02:38 PM
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Wearing shorts like you describe is inappropriate at school and that dress code should be enforced. I’m not ok with sexualizing young girls and never said anything that suggested otherwise. If I had a daughter I wouldn’t allow her to wear clothes like this. If you had a son would you teach him that what a girl is wearing is an invitation to harass her? I don’t think you would. When you respond to people with such a dismissive and condescending tone, don’t expect anyone to take you seriously. How…
/r/MensRights03/04/18 02:03 PM
3

This is horrible. Coming forward with this was incredibly selfless, I hope it leads to further investigation and prevention of sexual abuse to children and the lengths religion will go to cover it up.
/r/MensRights03/04/18 01:25 PM
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Wearing short shorts might attract attention. It in no way entitles you to follow an underage girl around and harass her. Do YOU see the difference between the two?
/r/MensRights03/04/18 01:14 PM
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The boys around her were taking photographs (because, of course). Clarify? You’re advocating that it’s acceptable for a 14 year old girl to be followed around and photographed without consent? What does “because, of course” mean?
/r/MensRights03/04/18 12:49 PM
1

If this man was an ally for feminism before, his views likely have not changed, given that he was the victim or a horrifying crime that has zero to do with gender or equality.
/r/MensRights02/04/18 05:06 PM
1

You didn’t answer the question.
/r/MensRights02/04/18 02:40 PM
2

This title makes it sound like he got charged for reckless endangerment
/r/MensRights02/04/18 12:26 PM
0

I agree with you. The educational space in particular should be held to the basic standard of recognizing nuance and accommodating needs appropriately in the interest of benefiting everyone. In this instance, having a female-only debate event would be fine in that it gives females* (see my point below) access to gain the experience they need, again not because they are being oppressed, but because it better prepares them to compete on a level playing field in the future For the sake of simplicit…
/r/MensRights31/03/18 01:18 AM
1

Solid point. This would benefit everyone.
/r/MensRights31/03/18 12:08 AM
2

Oh, interesting. I don’t always agree that the double standard argument is the most effective, but it’s entirely appropriate in this case and you have a solid argument. This is a perfect example where a similar vulnerability may be present as the debate one. I can definitely see how an event like this would benefit boys/men for multiple reasons, and it would not serve any purpose to accommodate females the same way, nor would it be discriminatory not to. I would support the shit out of a male on…
/r/MensRights31/03/18 12:02 AM
1

I’m completely calm and unimpressed. No one is frothing at the mouth. Why don’t you get some life experience and reevaluate this one. Do you even know what you’re fighting for?
/r/MensRights30/03/18 11:39 PM
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Why do men need a male-only debate competition? Not trying to be an asshole. Edit: I don’t think women need this because they are oppressed by men, they need to hone their skills in debate, and whether by real or perceived gender bias, they lack confidence. This is an educational institution, it should grow everyone (equally). Im not being antagonistic when I ask why do men need this. Is there a benefit for men from a male only debate event? However, if there are similar circumstances where men …
/r/MensRights30/03/18 10:55 PM
2

He is in jail for killing his other kid
/r/MensRights30/03/18 10:51 PM
-1

Uhh... how exactly is women managing households oppressive to men?
/r/MensRights30/03/18 10:45 PM
1

Yeah like you’re stating a position I can actually respond to. Let it go dude.
/r/MensRights30/03/18 10:37 PM
1

Not as threatened as you are to talk to a girl in real life, troll.
/r/MensRights30/03/18 10:17 PM
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Are you really so threatened that you can’t handle the idea of women starting a company good enough to overcome incredible odds to get funded? Like, you really can’t acknowledge that is an achievement? Something something if they knew their place they would be out shoveling snow instead? Please keep going, I can’t wait to hear more of your wisdom. This is amazing.
/r/MensRights30/03/18 02:00 AM
-2

What are you even talking about? Don’t you have an orthodontist appointment to get to?
/r/MensRights30/03/18 12:18 AM
-5

92% of partners at top VC firms are men Men control 95% of venture capital invested in the market over the last 5 years Female founders got 2% of venture capital dollars in 2017 Beat those odds and we’ll talk about hard work.
/r/MensRights29/03/18 08:23 PM
2

Where exactly is it stated that this was ruled a false accusation?
/r/MensRights29/03/18 03:16 AM
1

Yeah well I never infringed on anyone’s freedom by raising questions, I’ve had a hand in creating products I feel way less morally comfortable with than this one so I’m already guilty there, Im capable of seeing things from multiple angles and enjoy learning how other people perceive things I might not see, and I find mocking things I don’t agree with to be laughably arrogant. But you do you, dude.
/r/MensRights21/03/18 02:59 AM
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K
/r/MensRights21/03/18 02:50 AM
1

I never said having sex with a doll would make men more likely to rape. You raise an interesting point with the women’s rape fantasy angle though, and I (sincerely) appreciate that you acknowledge the difference between submission fantasy and desire for non consensual real-life rape. I would be interested in discussing further, but honestly the suggestion that myself and others “with my thinking” have an unconscious ulterior motive to keep men away from sex dolls induces supreme eye rolling and …
/r/MensRights21/03/18 02:49 AM
0

Cool. This really adds something to the conversation.
/r/MensRights21/03/18 01:08 AM
1

I buy it. Thanks for your perspective. I’ll give this some thought and respond.
/r/MensRights21/03/18 12:12 AM
2

You make some interesting points. I will give this some thought and respond. I would be curious to hear your thoughts to the response I wrote to DirHr a second ago if you’re interested. I don’t want to spam this thread with a duplicate post, will figure out if there’s a way to properly link to it.
/r/MensRights21/03/18 12:09 AM
1

I see the point on an individual case level, but I believe there are larger implications to consider when taking this from a consumer product with an anatomical form factor and/or design that literally resembles a penis or vagina, to a doll that realistically resembles a woman, and creating a commercial market for sex with it. Would you consider a less charged example? I study AI and have a particular interest in the dynamics created by the intersection of humans and machines. Currently, Alexa i…
/r/MensRights20/03/18 11:54 PM
0

I never said men will rape women because they have sex with dolls, so there is no logic to dispute. I already said elsewhere that I would equate dildos with sex toys that replicate vaginas, and see a distinction between that creating a market for playing out sex or rape fantasy with a doll that resembles a human. The target for this product is men who can’t form intimate relationships with women. It would be naive to say that a subset of this audience would not be using this product as an outlet…
/r/MensRights20/03/18 11:06 PM
0

I did not backpedal when challenged. I acknowledged the validity of someone else’s views and offered a different but not necessarily conflicting perspective. But there is a complete lack of ability on this sub to even consider that another point of view could be valid, much less examine whether that point of view might contribute context to ones own. Anything that doesn’t adhere to the narrative is automatically deemed feminist nonsense. I don’t speak for all feminists or represent all facets of…
/r/MensRights20/03/18 09:30 PM
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Good thing you added that word before I wasted my time responding to what I mistakenly assumed was a valid question. Seek therapy.
/r/MensRights20/03/18 08:15 PM
0

I ASKED for alternate viewpoints, not rejected them. I received one from u/elvick and found it interesting. I’m secure enough that I can say when I don’t have the answer to something, or that I haven’t yet developed a nuanced point of view that would add value to the conversation. That is what is supposed to happen in a discussion. Someone gives me something new to think about, and I don’t actually feel the need to double down. That is not “waffling”. I enjoy hearing a male perspective on these …
/r/MensRights20/03/18 08:06 PM
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I would equate dildos with fleshlights or something else that resembles a vagina. I think creating a market for fucking fake woman has other implications. To each their own, but the reversing genders argument doesn’t really hold up. I think it’s a fascinating topic to explore from a sociological, gender and technological lens, but since most replies I’ve gotten are completely condescending and most of the comments here are completely sexist regardless of whether the dolls are, this doesn’t seem …
/r/MensRights20/03/18 07:32 PM
1

Did you even read the article you are commenting on? Everything you are referencing has been debunked.
/r/MensRights20/03/18 07:15 PM
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I can see your point. I don’t entirely agree with it, but I’m not even sure if I fully disagree with it. Either way I don’t think your opinion, or the way you stated it is sexist. (just stating for the record) I can have empathy for the type of men you describe. I don’t have a fully formed POV to respond further to that aspect yet, but I get it. If I had a daughter, I wouldn’t want her to think this is how society sees her, and if I had a son I wouldn’t want this to send a message that men are e…
/r/MensRights20/03/18 07:11 PM
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How might I reverse the genders exactly?
/r/MensRights20/03/18 06:21 PM
4

Who exactly is blaming a bridge collapse on cis white hetero capitalist patriarchy? What are you even talking about?
/r/MensRights20/03/18 05:59 PM
1

the project lead is a diversity-hire woman who stupidly and very publicly bragged that most importantly, bridges need to be pretty. This woman was not involved in the project and did not state, brag or even vaguely imply that most importantly bridges need to be pretty.
/r/MensRights20/03/18 05:57 PM
5

The engineering team was not all women, the construction team was not all women, the company does not exclusively hire women. Do you have any reason to believe that this was a diversity hire other than the fact that women were involved?
/r/MensRights20/03/18 05:49 PM
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To be fair, the existence of these dolls does paint women as fuckable objects, which does have implications in how society views women. Do you disagree? I don’t see how this is evidence of a desire to control men over protecting victims. Edit: the fact that my completely reasonable comment and request for alternate points of view is being rapidly downvoted really speaks volumes. This is not a space for intellectual conversation. Good thing fake women can’t talk back, huge win for men.
/r/MensRights20/03/18 05:07 PM
2

To offer a different perspective, the fact that Crews is so highly respected and was willing to come out with this is a huge victory for both men and women. He validated that women aren’t taken seriously when reporting and the reasons they don’t. Some women had a similar takeaway as you, that it took a man saying this for anyone to listen. I personally am just extremely grateful that he did it. For men I think the message was even more impactful - if a trusted and loved actor who also happens to…
/r/MensRights20/03/18 04:36 PM
0

Your article also claims that studies all over the world show that men are twice as good as math than women, which clearly discredits them. Let’s use a little critical thinking here. The only citations these articles provide to support their claim of an all woman team being celebrated prior to the collapse are screenshots of an unrelated women’s day Facebook post. Tl/dr: Its been debunked. Time to move on.
/r/MensRights20/03/18 04:04 PM
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All the while, women in top positions from that firm openly said she as a women will prefer aesthetics over technicalities in bridge construction. Jesus Christ. Is this the quote you’re referencing? “We’re able to put in an artistic touch and we’re able to build too” A. This does not in any way say she prefers aesthetics over technicalities. B. This statement was not made in reference to bridge construction. C. This woman was not involved in the bridge project It’s literally in the article. Try …
/r/MensRights20/03/18 02:14 PM
0

Sick burn.
/r/MensRights19/03/18 11:21 PM
3

Yeah, not what I meant.
/r/MensRights19/03/18 11:15 PM
1

And you wonder why no one gives a shit about your movement. I’m not here to be abused.
/r/MensRights19/03/18 06:37 PM
0

Men legislate abortion and make a number of other decisions regarding what a woman can and can’t do with her body. I support men being given access to safe methods of birth control, and I support men having the right to make informed decisions on whether the current level of research is adequate for them to decide what’s right for them without judgement. I am actively advocating for men here, in part because I’ve experienced this and can empathize. Im on your side, and you’re mocking me. How can…
/r/MensRights19/03/18 05:14 PM
0

Thank you
/r/MensRights19/03/18 04:26 PM
0

I would also ask that you have a bit more empathy and leave the “patriarchy in quotes” out of this. Try to remember that women are constantly being told what they can and can’t do with their bodies by men in political power. I fully support men having safe medical choices and not being judged on them, partially because I have empathy having been there myself.
/r/MensRights19/03/18 02:19 PM
2

I never said anyone was force fed anything. I was saying even if that had been the case, it still wouldn’t negate a man’s right to decide what he puts in his body. Re: my own personal responsibility, yes all of those things. I had all of those choices and exercised them. I do not take hormonal birth control as a result. Which is irrelevant. You said most of these women probably don’t know whether they are increasing or decreasing hormones, I had to withhold judgement there because I admit I don’…
/r/MensRights19/03/18 02:12 PM
12

This is so embarrassing.
/r/MensRights19/03/18 01:15 PM
1

Seems like a good strategy to gain traction for your movement.
/r/MensRights19/03/18 12:50 PM
2

Great takeaway.
/r/MensRights19/03/18 12:16 PM
1

How does this add to the conversation or your cause?
/r/MensRights19/03/18 12:16 PM
1

Cool story bro
/r/MensRights19/03/18 06:49 AM
7

I think the stronger rebuttal would be to go after Idol. There is no way this wasn’t set up in advance by the show’s producers, which makes the show responsible for promoting a terrible message to a huge impressionable audience. Don’t get me wrong - Katy Perry should NOT be let off the hook, she is 100% guilty and should be held accountable as well. But the show could easily benefit from all the ratings and publicity from this, turn around and fire her, and get rewarded with more publicity. The …
/r/MensRights19/03/18 05:28 AM
2

A lot of them probably. I admit that I can’t say with total confidence that I could answer that question either. I take a drug that causes serious interactions with hormonal birth control, so I arguably have even more of a responsibility to know how this shit works. I don’t think that’s a particularly compelling proof point for anything though, unless I’m missing something? If I’m understanding you correctly, one could easily respond that women were originally handed hormone-altering drugs under…
/r/MensRights19/03/18 04:31 AM
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We’re on the same page. Your interpretation of what I’m trying to say is accurate, and the way you’ve restated it helps me better articulate it myself. I also appreciate hearing your take from a male point of view. Thanks for taking the time to engage, this has been great. Edit: I should have added that I agree with the additional points you made. To respond to one of them, the Katy Perry situation is disgusting, and I’m disheartened by and disappointed in the lack of criticism. This is the type…
/r/MensRights19/03/18 01:51 AM
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Feminist here. Being apprehensive about a one-month trial and choosing to wait for further testing before signing up for medication that alters your hormones is entirely reasonable. Anyone who suggests otherwise is a huge hypocrite in denying someone else the right to body autonomy that they are fighting for. Not to mention severely lacking in empathy, given that a lot of women have experience with hormonal birth control.
/r/MensRights19/03/18 12:55 AM
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It’s wrong, definitively. I appreciate the patience and respect in your response, and very much appreciate you acknowledging a woman’s right to bodily autonomy, it means a lot to hear that, especially from (I’m assuming) a man on this sub. But to further agree with you, “her body, her choice” in no way transfers to sabotaging birth control without consent. Taking deceptive action to get pregnant is not her choice, and anyone who believes that or excuses it is wrong. I am aware this happens and a…
/r/MensRights19/03/18 12:37 AM
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Not what I said at all. I said it was bullshit. I never said anything about uppity men or implied in any way that men aren’t warranted in taking issue with this. The idea that a man would claim to identify as a woman to enter a locker room is a hysterical edge case that demonizes men. The idea that a transgender female is stealing Becky’s spot on the track team is ignorant and prejudiced. Giving transgender children (and adults) allowances and rights to raise them to more equal ground does absol…
/r/MensRights18/03/18 08:22 PM
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My intention was to say “yep, I agree this is bullshit”. That’s different than saying “not all feminists”. The first is simply a statement of support/agreement. The second (to me) implies a message of “this doesn’t describe me so I don’t care”. If that’s not how it came across, I’ll be more careful next time. However, it’s a pretty big assumption that I’m not doing anything to oppose beliefs like this.
/r/MensRights18/03/18 08:09 PM
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Oh, my problem with this one is definitely not that it infantilizes women. While it does do that, the real problem is that it demonizes men. Didn’t mean to imply otherwise. I don’t think everything about feminism demonizes men, but my intention was definitely not to come in and say “this article is problematic because it infantilizes women”.
/r/MensRights18/03/18 07:59 PM
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There was no double standard! No one said X is assault and Y is not. No one ruled that a man can be charged with a crime and a woman can not. Lots of people do not believe that it is assault for a man to remove a condom deceptively. The original post title insinuated just that. Not everything is a double standard.
/r/MensRights18/03/18 02:24 PM
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So, if a woman agrees with you, downvote. Got it.
/r/MensRights18/03/18 02:09 PM
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This is bulllllshit. Please don’t read this and think all feminists feel this way. I’m female and the only oppression I’m experiencing from gender identity protection laws is being infantilized by this asshole.
/r/MensRights18/03/18 05:05 AM
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Men who are victims ARE ignored and shamed. I’m a woman. There are times when my voice is unfairly heard more than a man’s. So i believe it’s my obligation to use it and speak up. When I see a man trying to participate in metoo and getting shut down because it’s “only for women”, that enrages me. I’ll say something. It also enrages me when I come here and see everyone posting links to articles about women who tried to report a rape and didn’t have enough evidence to prove it. Every one of them i…
/r/MensRights18/03/18 04:33 AM
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I’m so sorry. Everything you’ve described is terrible, I can’t imagine. I really wish I had some advice to give you. I know it won’t solve the problem, but maybe look into support groups in your area? This sounds so incredibly overwhelming and you shouldn’t have to go through it alone. If you don’t mind sharing your general location, perhaps in a linked post, maybe the readers on this sub could help you track down some resources? There are probably general groups for parents involved in custody …
/r/MensRights18/03/18 12:10 AM
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I agree, I really do. Things are fucked up and you aren’t wrong that society and the family court system are preventing men from getting fair treatment. But your comment and your original post read entirely differently. Your post implies that something bad happening to someone doesn’t matter because bad things happen to other people too. It’s invalidating and diminishing victims. We can’t just use victims speaking out about one crime as proof that things are fucked up with the system. It’s bad t…
/r/MensRights17/03/18 11:19 PM
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I know, right? Some women sabotage birth control, so everyone gets to sexually assault everyone now. Fuck condoms. Women and gay men of the world, suck it up. Double standards don’t help anyone. Rape helps everyone! /s
/r/MensRights17/03/18 09:58 PM
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I may not have gotten the full article, the link isn’t formatting correctly, so correct me if I’m wrong. But I don’t see anything here that suggests sexism, invalidates men’s issues, or suggests that women have it worse than men. This study was focused on women prisoners and published results and hypotheses, some unique to women and some that may not be. Why not share studies focused on men and/or push for studies if they are lacking. Women aren’t your enemy on this one.
/r/MensRights16/03/18 06:13 PM
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This isn’t inequality. It’s one meal, not a boycott. Instead of blaming women, let’s keep the focus on helping men. I think it would be awesome if someone were to organize a day/week/month where they said hey, here’s a list of businesses owned by single fathers, let’s show them our support. This doesn’t take anything away from single mothers. You could go one step further and add “hey single mothers, we’re all in this together, but single fathers face unique issues and don’t always get the ackno…
/r/MensRights15/03/18 04:56 PM
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Well, no. It’s my choice to eat wherever I want, for whatever reason. That’s not taking money from anyone. If you said “hey my buddy just opened a restaurant in your neighborhood, it would be great if you could support him” I would check it out. Both to support your friend and because I’m curious to check out new restaurants. Doing so isn’t stealing business from the woman-owned restaurant next door. A business with superior food and service doesn’t “deserve” customers, they aren’t owed anything…
/r/MensRights15/03/18 04:21 PM
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Ehh, this is a stretch. No one is encouraging anyone to stop eating at restaurants owned by men, this doesn’t harm men in any way. Seamless caters to cities, people in cities try to preserve neighborhoods and the people in them. I would rather support the niche bookstore that is a neighborhood institution and the quirky man who owns the independent hardware store that tells me how to fix everything and the immigrant-owned bodega that knows my dog is sick when I order chicken broth for delivery, …
/r/MensRights15/03/18 02:22 AM
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I don’t think he meant that the kiss doesn’t count as assault. I understood it to mean that this doesn’t count as his first KISS, and therefore his first REAL kiss can still be special. If that’s the case, it sounds like his friends are being supportive and reframing it that way was cathartic for him. (I could be wrong in my interpretation) That’s my only correction though, I don’t disagree with your view at all, so this may be against the rules to post. Even if the actual meaning behind the quo…
/r/MensRights15/03/18 01:34 AM
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Anger is a perfectly reasonable and normal response. I wish that you didn’t have to feel that way, but if you didn’t feel angry, it might be a sign that you haven’t fully processed that it really wasn’t ok for someone to do that to you. So in a sense, it’s very healthy that you feel that way. It was for me. In any event, I feel angry on your behalf. I imagine that there are differences in the way men and women experience these things, and suspect that there is a particularly emasculating factor …
/r/MensRights13/03/18 01:57 AM
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I should have added, thanks for your reply. I agree with and support the other points you make, in addition to the parts I responded to specifically.
/r/MensRights12/03/18 08:16 PM
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Fair enough. We may not agree on some points in the larger topic, but my intention with my comment was not to sneak in any kind of agenda. I apologize for using a controversial term, especially if it cancelled out my sentiment. I genuinely meant what I said - what happened to you is horrible and wrong.
/r/MensRights12/03/18 08:01 PM
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What happened to you is fucking horrible. It’s absolutely rape, and anyone who tried to invalidate that is a piece of shit. For what it’s worth, I’m a woman, and I identify as feminist. Please don’t take this as me giving you “permission” to feel that way. I’m not in any way suggesting that you need validation from a woman. I just find it enraging that you didn’t receive support from your female friends and think it’s important for women to believe and speak up for men, and vice versa. The fact …
/r/MensRights12/03/18 05:00 PM
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Where in this article is it stated that this was a false accusation?
/r/MensRights07/03/18 01:18 PM
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So, because a lot of women say things you don’t like, you would downvote the ones who actually support your views? That kind of supports my point. Can you clarify what you mean by “women who like to jump to rape as the first thing?”
/r/MensRights07/03/18 11:14 AM
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Honest question. A lazy comment here that is pure conjecture and sweeping generalizations has well over 400 upvotes. While well-balanced comments from ALLIES are downvoted. Why? Among the most downvoted are two comments that both clearly state that there is a problem with the current system. One acknowledges that both men and women are victims of sexual assault and rape, and thousands have been raped between these false accusations. Rape is a problem, just as false accusations are a problem. The…
/r/MensRights06/03/18 04:14 AM
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