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I think the pass was in effect on this one. Different gender and she gets the death penalty. She fled the country, and then tried to escape custody here.
/r/PussyPassDenied23/11/23 06:52 PM
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In the near future, you will be feeling sorry for your future stepfather more than your father. Trust me on that one. Your dad knows how to survive and will do just fine. It's gonna be hard at first, but he doesn't sound like the type to just shrink and whither away. He'll bounce back. The next guy (guys) in your mother's life are in for a world of hurt. She's going to settle down with different guys out of habit, but want to live her best life while she's still got the chance. I've seen a lot o…
/r/askTRP08/05/21 02:13 PM
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That just depends on who you are. If you are attractive, it's probably been a bonanza. If you aren't, probably soul crushing in some cases. I'm just happy that it didn't exist when I was in my 20s and 30s as I definitely would have beem left out in the cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 02:20 AM
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I did in high school. She was a hooper at another school. I am 6-2, she was about 6-3 1/2. Kissing and hugging up for the first time felt extremely strange. In the end I came to prefer 4-10 - 5-2 range. I like 'em short and outgoing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 04:44 PM
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This is a good point. I think the majority of women or more follow this strategy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/10/20 01:10 AM
4

Run for the nearest clinic and get yourself checked. She's out there, but using you for the boyfriend bennies until another boyfriend type can replace you.
/r/askTRP17/09/20 04:07 PM
2

If you absolutely must get married, go for a woman 5-7 years older than you. The age gap is enough to where she will always see you as a "younger" man, and hence "a catch." It also basically ensures that your sex drive will match hers for the duration of the marriage. This is critical especially when she is in her 40s. These two factors alone don't guarantee success, of course, but if she sees you as the alpha they will definitely contribute a ton. Especially when you are both older (45+) and he…
/r/askTRP17/09/20 06:40 AM
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It's a huge gamble that is in her favor in the long run. Even if you got married at age 25, have 5 kids in succession, and she stayed with you the whole time, the kids would presumably be out of the house by the time you are 50. Assuming she's the same age, once empty nest syndrome sets in, she could decide she wants to "live the years she missed out on." That would most likely mean a brutal divorce for you, including paying her alimony. You'd be paying for her to catch up with her other divorce…
/r/askTRP17/09/20 06:30 AM
2

On dating apps, 80% percent of women find about 20% of men attractive. The situation is closer to what the other poster wrote, more like 90/10 these days.
/r/askTRP16/09/20 11:01 PM
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Don't respond. Let her suffer. If she doesn't hear from you, her first thought will be that you easily moved on and that what you two had was "never real." Better for her to think this than for her to be sure that you are sad and missing her. In the meantime, take steps to work on yourself and truly move on.
/r/askTRP16/09/20 10:19 PM
1

Add more to your life to make yourself busier.
/r/askTRP15/09/20 10:29 PM
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Half jokingly tell her to bring you a girlfriend one night. If she asks if your serious say hell yes. Worst case scenario is she wasn't serious about it and stops bringing it up. Best case is you get your threesome.
/r/askTRP15/09/20 06:20 PM
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If it bothers you that much, you should probably just prepare to at least pull back. If you stick around and things get more serious, the knowledge of her and your friend will start to bubble up to the surface, and will eventually lead her to dumping you for being insecure. Pull back and leave things at mostly sex. That way you don't get too invested. Chances are she is doing both of you, and frequently. She might be prepping you for a more long term role (cooking, hanging out, going out) , and …
/r/askTRP15/09/20 05:44 PM
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And the more favors you grant, the less attracted she will become.
/r/askTRP14/09/20 02:44 PM
2

Solid.
/r/askTRP13/09/20 11:07 PM
2

Well said. When you are working on that promotion, launching a business, wrapping up your degree, or in some type of physical competition, your focus is on those things and basically insulates you not only from wondering about women, but also any other problems you may have that aren't serious health issues. At the same time, once you achieve your goals, your confidence is through the roof, and women can see the "glow" in you. This is what attracts them to you and makes them want to get to know …
/r/askTRP13/09/20 01:54 PM
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It could also mean that she has/had no boundaries/self esteem and put up with a real abuser for a long time. In either case, it's a huge red flag. Once you hear that, definitely do a couple of "post nut clarity" sessions before proceeding.
/r/askTRP13/09/20 01:40 PM
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If the things that gave you pleasure and satisfaction in life don't work anymore, it could be as simple as striking out and finding new friends, hobbies, line of work, etc. Of course that is easier said than done because of how COVID-19 has changed the way we live. Whatever you do, when you are rebuilding yourself you have to start small. Find a new hobby. Meet a new friend. Push yourself to do something out of your element or comfort zone. Small successes lead to larger ones.
/r/askTRP13/09/20 01:07 PM
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Give a little more attention to the least attractive of the two. This will surprise the more attractive girl and could cause her to go after you more (as she is used to getting attention). Also it will flatter the least attractive one (who is used to getting passed over for her more attractive friend). It's a reverse strategy but it has worked for me in the past. Worst case was the hotter girl went about her business but the other girl stayed around and I was able to continue.
/r/askTRP13/09/20 02:43 AM
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One way is if, when you are starting to make out, she says "it's been a while." Or that she hasn't been on a "real date" in a long time. These are signs to me that she's been getting pumped and dumped/played, and nobody has taken her seriously. By saying it's been a while, that kind of gets you to lower your guard because you think that she might be a catch. You need to ask the little questions, checking for inconsistencies, and filing that info away. You know, the same thing she is doing to you…
/r/askTRP13/09/20 02:36 AM
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Staying on your purpose will at the very least eliminate a scarcity mindset. When you are wrapped up in your life's work, daily routines, etc., you won't signal any neediness. Often you won't even realize that women are interested in you. Being on your purpose, as well as being passionate about that purpose will eventually attract women to you. When they come into your life, you'll be OK if they come and go because your purpose is the main thing going in your life.
/r/askTRP12/09/20 10:52 PM
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This. It will show her that you aren't afraid of her.
/r/askTRP12/09/20 08:33 PM
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Agree with this. The guy who can pull off both usually ends up a happily married man (while probably still running through chicks on the side the whole time).
/r/askTRP12/09/20 08:19 PM
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Making you think she is a "good girl." If she senses that you value a woman with a low Ncount and some morals, she'll portray herself as just that. In fact, she might make you wait longer for sex than she would have if you had been in it mainly for sex out of the gate.
/r/askTRP12/09/20 05:38 PM
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Except it's not a flat no. A lot of time you get in contact with a woman (get her number) or whatever, but that is no guarantee that the interest will get out of the early stages. I've gotten people's phone numbers in the past and it went nowhere fast. I'm saying that if she is coming out of the gate with excuses then it's best to move on. I think you yourself said that if she were interested she wouldn't have put up so many excuses out of the gate.
/r/askTRP10/09/20 11:42 PM
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I would take it as a no and soft next her. If she's somewhat interested she'll contact you down the road.
/r/askTRP10/09/20 10:37 PM
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She may have been canceling on someone else, but accidentally sent the message to you. A lot of people accidentally send messages. Anyhow, she is clearly not interested so best to let go and move on.
/r/askTRP10/09/20 07:10 PM
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1 — Pay for GFE "Girlfriend Experience." A good pro will be able to feign affection/lust fairly well. If you work on your body and get in shape, some of them may actually come to find you attractive, which would make the GFE all the more convincing. Even then, that's their job. There is a guy or two out there that will turn them on, but probably not one of the Johns.
/r/askTRP10/09/20 06:31 PM
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This right here.
/r/askTRP10/09/20 05:50 PM
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Her showing you the messages is actually a common tactic among cheaters. It's the old "in a lie is always a grain of truth" idea. The fact that the messages are fairly mundane doesn't mean that she isn't still insanely attracted to the guy and at his beck and call. And if she does text him here and there to say that it's not "like that anymore," it's only to make it a little more difficult for the guy to smash. Basically to spice things up so she doesn't get bored with him, because she knows he …
/r/askTRP10/09/20 04:23 PM
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If you know that your mental illness is hampering you, you need to get help. That means at least going to see a therapist. You don't necessarily need to take meds, but you need someone to talk to. If you are doing this and still feel down, then you need to "downsize" your life. You need to reevaluate your goals, figure out what is feasible and attainable for you, and then get back out there. I am middle aged now, and I saw several people crash and burn when their goals didn't work out. One guy I…
/r/askTRP10/09/20 12:42 PM
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If you're the witty type, you can have a field day in this situation. Otherwise, stay busy, useful to your boss, and away from the water cooler when everyone else is around.
/r/askTRP10/09/20 12:39 PM
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Soft next both. I hate tardiness, too, and if someone I'm considering is always late and flaky I won't even move past the initial stage.
/r/askTRP28/07/20 10:50 PM
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This.
/r/askTRP28/07/20 10:48 PM
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I am not sure about body count being the main factor. I think the higher your SMV and ability at managing women's emotions would be more important.
/r/askTRP28/07/20 10:44 PM
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I've heard people say anything from taking a cold shower to dropping down and doing a set of 50 push-ups. Some type of physical activity to take your mind off of it.
/r/askTRP28/07/20 06:33 PM
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Agree. Whoever tries to marry Vanessa Bryant will have to compete with the ghost of Kobe Bryant. Literally and figuratively a tall order. I've also seen this in real life. My sister's BF died. She keeps pics of them up on social media, changed her last name to his, etc. This validates her, this pseudo widow status. It makes it look like her son had a dad and she wasn't a single mother. But in reality, the guy had 0 intention of marrying her, or even living with her.
/r/askTRP28/07/20 03:50 PM
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Basically.
/r/askTRP28/07/20 02:34 PM
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Unless you think you can still get her, Block Ignore Ghost. She's a flake. Not worth the time, especially with a BF and numerous other orbiters on her phone. Basically if we don't capitalize on our opportunities very early (that same day in your case), that's pretty much it.
/r/askTRP28/07/20 02:28 PM
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I've been through something similar. Even a simple "hey" is enough to show that you are still possibly on the hook. Best to go BIG.
/r/askTRP28/07/20 02:23 PM
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She's enjoying the attention from you...and numerous other dudes. I'd keep it moving.
/r/askTRP28/07/20 01:57 PM
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I'm similar to you. I love the old expression, "An angel in public, a devil in private." I like to feel that I am introducing her into more and more kink. I think those days are long gone. I haven't had a woman in the past few years that has been reserved. Most have been very vocal about what they want, when they want it, their pasts, etc. I just watched an RP video yesterday. The content creator was saying that Thots are out there, but you have to take them up on their offer almost immediately.…
/r/askTRP28/07/20 01:45 PM
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That ship sailed a long time ago, my man.
/r/askTRP28/07/20 01:37 PM
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"If more chicks are bi these days, it is because of guys like you." Wow, you are really taking it out there. I say something you disagree with and now "guys like me" are the cause of chicks being bi? Laughable. And, I was responding to your lame advice about eating pussy better or "pretending to care about women." Like women can't sniff out that a dude is pretending to care. That is some real simp shit, my dude. If the OP listens to you, he's gonna find himself even deeper in the hole.
/r/askTRP28/07/20 01:26 PM
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Or even the opposite: She gets you to commit to an LTR, and when you do, she then loses interest almost overnight.
/r/askTRP28/07/20 01:18 PM
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You're putting words in my statement. I never said anything about every woman having a backup. But when they want that, they can find it. O.P. needs to get hip to the reality out there. A lot of women are bi these days, and that expands their rotations.
/r/askTRP28/07/20 01:16 PM
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If you are getting ONS frequently then I definitely wouldn't call that a failure. I've only had 3 ONS in my life! I think there is something bigger than you can imagine out there. Women, while saying they want a good man and an LTR, really only just want to sample everything in the buffet. Or damn-near everything. Their attention is overloaded. There are so many guys, and many women just want to try as many of these guys as possible.
/r/askTRP28/07/20 01:12 PM
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They have gfs that can eat pussy better than any man ever could.
/r/askTRP28/07/20 01:09 PM
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It depends on a lot of factors. Your age, length of time flapping before you went nofap, how much porn you watched. Check out Gabe Deem.
/r/askTRP27/07/20 10:22 PM
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O.P., definitely check out the Manipulated Man as u/Secret_Twitch recommends.
/r/askTRP27/07/20 08:14 PM
1

This is good stuff. Let me add, when she says, "I've already decided that no matter what you do, you cannot win. Otherwise, if you had a chance, I wouldn't be making you play the game in the first place."
/r/askTRP27/07/20 08:11 PM
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This.
/r/askTRP27/07/20 07:01 PM
1

They are not interested. Women are cheating on their partners more than ever these days. For you it was she has boyfriend. For a guy who's her type, she won't. Just take it as a rejection and move on.
/r/askTRP27/07/20 07:00 PM
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If you are doing nofap, you could possibly be on a major flatline. But I think you are too young for that. Head to the doc.
/r/askTRP27/07/20 06:55 PM
1

Though probably not the original intent, Fast Food Nation has some parts of the movie towards the end where you'll be like damn.
/r/askTRP27/07/20 06:47 PM
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Yup. Whenever a woman frequently mentions another man from her past, abusive or not, I am nexting unless there is an FWB possibility.
/r/askTRP27/07/20 06:35 PM
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Item #1 is an immediate disqualifier. If you can't keep her as a plate only, move on. Let me expand: When a woman says she was abused, chances are very high that guy still has a stranglehold on her emotions. He knows how to push her buttons and manipulate her. The fact that she constantly brings him up is proof of that. She sees you as a savior. Unfortunately, deep down, she doesn't want to be saved. There is no way you'll be able to give her the tingles like the "abusive ex."
/r/askTRP27/07/20 02:36 PM
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Ha ha, it was more of a turn off than anything. I assumed that Tinder was for younger people. So when she told me I was like yuck.
/r/askTRP26/07/20 07:39 PM
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AFTER. Believe it or not, I continued on just fine after #2. It was after two ladies I was dealing with last year that I was kind of awoken to the "modern woman." When a 50-year I was hooking up with last year told me that she was using dating apps (I don't), I was, oh OK, now it all makes sense..."
/r/askTRP26/07/20 07:35 PM
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Ha ha, the stories come out of me at different times. For the most part, I was actually pretty lucky both times. Some of the stuff I read on Reddit and across the Net are absolutely hair raising.
/r/askTRP26/07/20 07:32 PM
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Yes and yes.
/r/askTRP26/07/20 05:41 PM
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I have 0 idea, to be honest with you. It may look better to society to have an ex's last name rather than return to one's maiden name. She may not even like her maiden name. I'm just happy I escaped her back in the day with minimal damage lol. When I look at what she and her soon-to-be ex are going through now, the stakes are A LOT higher. We were just too dumb kids who got pregnant, eloped, and split apart with not much to fight over.
/r/askTRP26/07/20 03:48 PM
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I'm not a lawyer, but there is no way to compel an ex to go back to her maiden name. For all intents and purposes, it became her last name officially, so in a sense my last name became her new maiden name for the subsequent marriage. Here's a link: Divorce and last name
/r/askTRP26/07/20 03:15 PM
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People see kindness as weakness, or a sign of naïveté. This is a sign for certain types of people to try to take advantage of you. This is why, when I was in teaching school a long time ago, one of the common refrains was, "Don't smile until Christmas." They were basically saying that if you appeared too friendly to students too early, they would start trying to take advantage of you. That could destroy your classroom discipline early on. I think that, as long as you have clear boundaries and en…
/r/askTRP26/07/20 02:03 PM
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I don't really mind it. In the past, it struck me as very professional sounding. These days, I'm more worried about women keeping their ex-husband's name after the divorce. This actually happened to me. It was weird. My first ex-wife got remarried, then divorced recently. I asked her if she was going to keep her second ex's last name or go back to her maiden name. Her answer: I'm going back to YOUR last name. Me: ?????????????? She said basically because when WE got married (over 20 years ago), …
/r/askTRP26/07/20 01:59 PM
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I was married twice. It's critical in a marriage setting. It's already hard enough to coordinate get togethers, trips, holidays, etc., if her family likes you. Imagine if they don't (or are indifferent). In an LTR, probably not as important, especially if you don't see yourself marrying her. If you want to pop the question one day, then see the above.
/r/askTRP26/07/20 01:53 PM
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She probably just wanted a ONS that night at the bar. When that didn't happen, she got your number, but woke up the next day and realized she wasn't really that interested in you. When you are dealing with women at bars and clubs, you need to hook up then and there. They want to have their fun but don't want to be reminded of their naughtiness by seeing you after the fact. Let her go. Work on your physique and overall appearance so women that want to hook up will go all the way with you. Also, w…
/r/askTRP26/07/20 11:47 AM
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This is why a lot of guys are avoiding dating altogether. At first, she's excited to be with you. But FOMO starts creeping in and she's wondering if she made the right call going out with you. The bitchiness is basically her realization that she made the wrong call, in her mind. A hotter guy may have hit her up at the last moment, or her friends are doing something more interesting. As the other guys say, cut the date short. I wouldn't look back after.
/r/askTRP26/07/20 11:12 AM
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Any attention for women is good attention.
/r/askTRP25/07/20 10:55 PM
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This.
/r/askTRP25/07/20 06:10 PM
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Truth. In the past, you could take your time. Now, they are getting hit up IRL and online by hundreds of dudes.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/20 05:52 PM
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This.
/r/askTRP25/07/20 05:01 PM
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Sounds like you are not really into her. That's good. Keep your feelings safe and don't get into any "entanglements." It sounds like the other guy is investing a lot more energy into her. Poor guy. He has no idea what he is in for. In the meantime, keep hooking up with her. Make sure you wrap it up because the other guy is hitting it, too, whenever he comes around. And probably someone else neither you nor the other guy know about.
/r/askTRP25/07/20 04:48 PM
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Definitely.
/r/askTRP25/07/20 04:20 PM
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I'm in a similar boat as you. As a result I decided, about 10 months ago, to focus on myself. I am working on getting back in shape and creating a new business. This business is my new mistress. This and working out have given me the sense of purpose I lost about 3 years ago after my primary business failed.
/r/askTRP25/07/20 04:13 PM
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Don't have time to waste on that. One thing they definitely are not, however, are incels. They can get sex whenever they please. They are complaining because they can't get the type of man they like to commit to them.
/r/askTRP25/07/20 04:11 PM
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She's basically giving you the heads up that she is moving on. Women aren't direct; she isn't going to say, "I want to break up because I'm bored with you." Like others here are saying, leave the door open, but go about your business and keep your own options going. When she comes back to town, she'll be DTF, of course. (If you even want her by then!)
/r/askTRP25/07/20 04:02 PM
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You were giving her much needed attention during the lockdown. You probably revealed too much about yourself, and the familiarity bred contempt. Once the lockdown lifted, there was no motivation on her end to actually meet you. Women and men are the same in one respect: once they get what they want, there is no more motivation to invest. Just like when a woman gives you sex fairly quickly and you lose interest in her, she will lose interest in you once you reveal everything and give her all the …
/r/askTRP25/07/20 03:56 PM
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You have to realize how many guys she is texting, in addition to her friends and family. However, if a girl is super into you in the beginning, she will text you morning, day and night if you let her. Like the other guy said, though, just text to set up plans.
/r/askTRP25/07/20 02:41 PM
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This.
/r/askTRP25/07/20 12:06 PM
3

Agree with this. Texting with no outlet is boring as hell, for both genders.
/r/askTRP25/07/20 05:02 AM
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Warn him, but be prepared to lose him. Down the road, he'll come back and thank you for looking out for him, even if he didn't listen.
/r/askTRP25/07/20 04:19 AM
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Walk while you still can. Imagine being married to her and she pulls that type of stunt fairly regularly.
/r/askTRP25/07/20 04:17 AM
2

If I get a woman's number, I'll always text first, 2 days later. From that point on, I let her do the initiating to gauge her interest.
/r/askTRP24/07/20 10:22 PM
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Ha ha no worries. My 23yo son jokingly tells me he's never going to cut his hair. If it falls out, great, but he's not going to hasten his demise. We get a good laugh out of that one.
/r/askTRP24/07/20 10:19 PM
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Get seriously jacked I'm definitely working on the physical aspect. Up until last year I had been riding my financial success and pretty much neglected my physique. I own my baldness, definitely. I've been bald or balding for the past 25 years. I "bic" every day in the shower lol. But the financial setback I went through, and loss of accompanying status, has thrown me for a loop. So, as I work myself back financially, I've been paying more attention to getting in shape. So far so good. But yeah,…
/r/askTRP24/07/20 10:06 PM
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Yep, don't do it. A few months ago, my FWB texted me and told me she wanted me to go to her spin class. I sniffed it out immediately. She wanted to show me off to her friends, more than anything. But I knew that if I didn't "pass" the test, that might have been the end of the whole deal. I didn't even answer that particular text. I just rejoined the convo the next day on a new topic. And she didn't bring it up again.
/r/askTRP24/07/20 10:03 PM
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IMO, avoid this. This is her final big event to vet you. Bringing you to friends and family is the final step before LTR status. If her friends/family approve of you, then she will start pushing for an LTR. This has happened to me a few times in the past. You're gonna get the "Oh, you guys are soooo CUTE together!" If her friends don't approve of you, then that's another broken plate. She will dump you down the road if friend aren't on board. Maybe no big deal to you if you have a bunch going on…
/r/askTRP24/07/20 09:45 PM
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The homecoming king when I was high school fucked probably 80% of the women from our town. He continues such a charmed life 30 years later. He is 5-9.
/r/askTRP24/07/20 09:02 PM
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In my case, I started balding at 20 and gaining weight. I went from Chad to Brad in about a year. That was pretty much the end of my dalliances with 20 something women. I got a little boost around 25-26, but then from that point I abandoned the 20 something scene and went after the low hanging fruit (35-45). So, I would say that age depends on when you start aging out, not considering finances and status. For some guys, this could be 25. For others, 50.
/r/askTRP24/07/20 08:55 PM
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In my context, I know she was clearly attracted to me, but I still think there was more to it. If you are just getting bjs from random chicks, I would just say it's pure attraction.
/r/askTRP24/07/20 08:49 PM
1

Don't watch the Last Dance.
/r/askTRP24/07/20 08:47 PM
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A few years ago, I found myself unexpectedly in a position of power at work. I started a job as a temp, quickly became an analyst, and then ended up with my boss's job. All of this within 3 months. There was a huge power vacuum at the company and I was a good fit at the time. Right time, right place. Overnight, I went from a nobody to most of the ladies at work coming my way. Some low key, some super obvious. It was a huge ego boost. When I look back on it, however, all the adulation and validat…
/r/askTRP24/07/20 08:43 PM
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This comment needs more upvotes. A lot of guys enjoyed the fun when their SMV and test were at their peaks, and didn't focus on building their lives. I found out that it is much harder mid 40s because my economic aspect isn't up to par.
/r/askTRP24/07/20 08:23 PM
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Yep I enjoyed the cougar natural reserve around that age. It was great.
/r/askTRP24/07/20 08:20 PM
1

I was pretty low SMV between 23 and 25. (I was married from 20-23) Though 6-2, I was about 50 pounds overweight and balding. I got a little here and there but my only FWB was a 5-6, 200+ gal. Still, I didn't complain. I also didn't really worry about it too much. I was finishing school and looking forward to my career. I finished college at 25 and started my career. Basically things changed overnight. Now I was getting a lot of 40yo+ women. A LOT. It was great and I told myself they were much be…
/r/askTRP24/07/20 08:18 PM
2

Nope. Now there are two guys banging the same girl off and on. If were able to avoid catching feels and strapped up, I would say go ahead. But since you have feelings for her, very bad idea. No time machines with women.
/r/askTRP18/07/20 12:30 AM
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It's just me being impatient of an idiot that I am... Happens to the best of them. I wouldn't sweat it. You don't want to get too into your head if you can avoid it.
/r/askTRP17/07/20 09:10 PM
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Just be glad you aren't him and move on.
/r/askTRP17/07/20 07:06 PM
4

Next
/r/askTRP17/07/20 07:06 PM
3

just goes with the hottest, fun one Bingo Either way, I hope the OP realizes that it is not so much HIM as it is that she has a lot of options to choose from.
/r/askTRP17/07/20 07:03 PM
6

I hate to say this, but I told you bro. :( From your other post, I thought that your window to hook up was probably that same night. It didn't happen. Oh well. That's why I suggested to just text her, let her know you had fun, and then possibly come back to it when you got back from your vacation. This might have built some anticipation on her end, and got her thinking about you while you were gone. And it would have shown that you are cool and not desperate. ​ What is the main reason for this t…
/r/askTRP17/07/20 06:50 PM
11

I think they have an idea that things are favorable right now. But they won’t begin to analyze things and put labels on the dynamics until they lose their advantage post wall. Just like guys who had it all in high school but aged out after.
/r/askTRP17/07/20 05:23 PM
1

This.
/r/askTRP17/07/20 04:13 PM
1

Indeed.
/r/askTRP17/07/20 03:53 PM
9

You have to lead with sex in today’s age, no way around it. If you are uncomfortable with that, you need to change to fit today’s times. In the past, dating was fine because eventually you could win her over with kindness. Now, dating a woman actually puts you at or near the bottom of her sexual rotation. She will use you for validation (dates) and benefits (food, money) while stringing you along by saying she wants to wait to get to know you. Lead with sex. If she’s not with it, move on. You’ll…
/r/askTRP17/07/20 03:27 PM
6

Most of my high school class and I (c/o 1993) had kids by 21. The advantage is that you get to live your life again after 40. Also, you get to enjoy your adult children longer. Most of us came out decent economically speaking as well. The disadvantage would be if you can’t pursue a career or otherwise reach your potential because you had children at a young age.
/r/askTRP17/07/20 01:56 PM
7

If that.
/r/askTRP17/07/20 12:22 PM
3

This right here. Just like women can sniff out neediness in a guy, so can they sniff out that a dude is “going places.”
/r/askTRP17/07/20 01:22 AM
1

Me too. I have a 12 year old and it’s almost like having a mini wife.
/r/askTRP17/07/20 01:20 AM
2

I’m just going by my instincts. I’d wait until later, but it could work out differently for you if you try. Good luck.
/r/askTRP17/07/20 12:57 AM
9

In my experience, the ones who are shadowy about their pasts are afraid to reveal a high n count, for some reason or another. I’ve come across women who have no problem saying they like casual sex and sleep around. And the opposite as well. But the tricky ones are the chameleons who come off as “good girls” but you don’t find out until later that they have been around the block more than a couple of times.
/r/askTRP16/07/20 11:42 PM
2

That ship has probably sailed. Your chance to hook up may have been that night, but you didn’t escalate. I’d text her the day you are leaving, let her know you had a good time, and would like to see her when you get back. That way you don’t look desperate and you convey that you have your own life.
/r/askTRP16/07/20 11:40 PM
1

What I found out is that looking needy + being intimidating is a social suicide. How did you get past this? Or if it was someone else, what did he do?
/r/askTRP16/07/20 11:23 PM
1

Agree.
/r/askTRP16/07/20 11:12 PM
2

CGA said that most men in marriage will face a time when they have to “buck up or cuck up.” Meaning that many women are going to turn to adulterous behavior or attempt to create an open relationship. Once you “cuck up” you are done as a man in her eyes, regardless of your external status. Women would prefer a guy who faced homelessness head on rather than give in to her and put up with adultery. Will chose to cuck up for the kids and to avoid a costly divorce. Also, he’s getting plenty of action…
/r/askTRP16/07/20 09:46 PM
11

Make yourself scarce. That way when you come back at the end of the day (or night) she’s been missing you and is ready.
/r/askTRP16/07/20 07:13 PM
1

Sometimes you have to bluff in a game of Poker.
/r/askTRP16/07/20 04:59 PM
1

If you have other options going, just tell her you aren't ready to commit. It will have the opposite effect of what you think. Instead of walking away from you, it will make her try harder to lock you down. Try it and update us in 2 weeks.
/r/askTRP16/07/20 04:40 PM
1

Hmmm, let's see: Tinder. She is probably pregnant from doing multiple guys herself. You seem to her like a decent dude that might want to raise a baby with her. At best, you'd accept the baby with a paternity test and pay child support. Be careful.
/r/askTRP16/07/20 04:36 PM
2

Ok. It will probably be one of those off-and-on things, because she may not want to settle for being a plate after being the top girl. As long as you stay on your physical game, she'll stay in your orbit for the sex at least, dipping out here and there as her own prospects change. Enjoy the ride!
/r/askTRP16/07/20 04:23 PM
3

Women's intuition shouldn't be underestimated. They can smell neediness like a shark can smell blood. Facts
/r/askTRP16/07/20 04:21 PM
1

Because your stock shot up 300% in her eyes. You walked on her. You've got new girls, thus validating your SMV. And getting you back is challenging and exciting. Women have no qualms about competing with each other for a man they think is high value. However, if you take her back, whatever caused her to play games with you in the first place is still going to be lurking in the background. It won't manifest itself immediately, especially if other women are still a threat to your ex. But as time g…
/r/askTRP16/07/20 04:15 PM
6

Yep. Once she “tames” you with a commitment, she will start messing around with some of her friends again. If she’s initiating dates and buying you stuff, you need to keep that going.
/r/askTRP15/07/20 05:11 PM
2

Take a look at this study:Bald or Bad?
/r/askTRP15/07/20 01:23 PM
9

The latter. Once a woman goes promiscuous, there is no going back. Even if a guy can satisfy her sexual needs (even every need), she'll still miss the variety and thrill of experiencing different guys. Hence the age old expression: garden tool cannot become housewife.
/r/askTRP15/07/20 03:35 AM
1

I started at age 17.
/r/askTRP15/07/20 02:53 AM
1

He's a 6-8 physical specimen He has a dark mysterious personality He's a celebrity. I put this last because just #1 would be enough for him to get all the ladies even as an unknown.
/r/askTRP15/07/20 01:28 AM
12

Excellent way of pointing out this critical difference!
/r/askTRP14/07/20 08:19 PM
15

For me, I pretty much lost out on women in their 20s because I also gained about 50 pounds between ages 20-23. I got married early and we had a kid so my active life ground to a halt. I think if I had remained in shape, it wouldn't have been as bad. But the extra weight and hair loss had me going from looking like Will Smith to a young version of Uncle Phil in the space of 3 years. So, in my experience, I was basically invisible to mid 20s women. As a black man, however, being bald isn't all tha…
/r/askTRP14/07/20 08:14 PM
87

I started losing my hair around age 19. It felt like I became invisible to same age women almost overnight. I went from guaranteed hooking up at house parties to looking 5-7 years older. By the time I was 27 I was shaving completely. Also, I was about 60 pounds heavier from the 6-2 200 pound solid muscle at 18-19. It wasn’t the end of the road, however. Older women (40+) picked up the slack and my sex life got better. Going bald places a premium on your physical fitness. You must be some combo o…
/r/askTRP14/07/20 07:57 PM
1

My understanding is that she is not on the side of men, but rather ridiculing them in certain ways as tools of women.
/r/MensRights14/07/20 01:44 PM
1

I love this book.
/r/MGTOW14/07/20 01:43 PM
3

Ridicule. A 1996 French movie about a poorer noble in late 18th century France. He has to deal with all types of fuckery, literal and figurative, at the French court.
/r/askTRP14/07/20 01:41 PM
1

This.
/r/askTRP14/07/20 04:45 AM
2

Don’t delete but don’t contact, either. If something was meant to happen, it probably would’ve happened then and there.
/r/askTRP14/07/20 04:42 AM
5

Not really. Do you think she gave a chit about you when she needed "to work on herself"? Now, dating coaches would say set up a date with her and try to "Rekindle the spark." If she refuses to meet up, then go back to no contact. I'm with the guy who answered you. Keep up no contact. And NEVER believe that she wants you back for YOU. Once a woman leaves you "to work on herself," she has shown you that her attraction has dipped to near zero. Even if you were a good sexual option, something else h…
/r/askTRP13/07/20 06:12 PM
2

Yes. That's why I've always made sure my skills are up to date. I'm just an average guy in the looks department, so I need to be the "expert" on topics to be heard. Often, I'll make a suggestion, get ignored. Then, some time later, a more attractive person will make the same suggestion and everyone will get on board.
/r/BlackPillScience13/07/20 04:40 PM
1

This, O.P.
/r/askTRP13/07/20 04:24 PM
8

Even if you agree to mess around, but decide to keep it under wraps, the woman will always expose the goings on. She needs clout and attention, no matter what. Will probably didn't give a damn, but figured they would keep everything discreet. Now he's humiliated and she's trying to boost her show so she can have a media presence without being tied to him. Guarantee after the divorce she KEEPS his name.
/r/askTRP13/07/20 04:19 PM
2

Yep Empire Strikes Back should be renamed "Art of the Close."
/r/TheRedPill13/07/20 03:06 PM
6

Just watch Han Solo mack on Leia in the first Star Wars.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/20 01:57 PM
46

Get paternity test first and foremost.
/r/askTRP11/07/20 08:58 PM
1

Infector? Sounds like she is infected. She’s not even a good pump n dump candidate.
/r/askTRP11/07/20 03:08 PM
1

Interesting. I really enjoy these talks about SMV and all that.
/r/askTRP11/07/20 01:42 AM
9

P.S., she still has a boyfriend. She just wanted a different D and she got it. It’s hard to believe, but yes women only want one night stands too!
/r/askTRP10/07/20 10:40 PM
6

Yep. No need to overthink things after getting the pie.
/r/askTRP10/07/20 10:23 PM
17

You already got what you wanted. No need to play her game. If you just leave it at “K” and prepare to move on, it will force her to accept your terms or move on herself.
/r/askTRP10/07/20 10:12 PM
2

Makes sense.
/r/askTRP10/07/20 08:08 PM
1

Seconded.
/r/askTRP10/07/20 07:25 PM
1

Also, unlike tats, fake body parts can be removed when the trend passes. So women who go the cosmetic route can't lose.
/r/askTRP10/07/20 07:15 PM
2

That's actually a good thing. If you show you are emotionally available too early, that will probably scare her away. Focus on the ones that have you as NUMBER 1. Then later the others might move you up.
/r/askTRP10/07/20 07:12 PM
2

I'm not sure about that. Clearly, you are not the number one priority, but you have a place in her rotation. The question is, do you really want to be one of her plates?
/r/askTRP10/07/20 06:59 PM
1

Coming after Tyroneasaurus Rex is a tough act to follow. Raising his seed even less appealing.
/r/askTRP10/07/20 06:50 PM
4

She's bringing you along slowly. The spark isn't there on her part, but she's giving you a chance to build it. This is why you need to have other options. You need to NOT EVEN NOTICE that she hasn't texted you or responded.
/r/askTRP10/07/20 06:26 PM
1

How many of the other 80% are really in the game? I've heard that only the top 40% ( combo of looks and $$$) stand a chance. What do you think?
/r/askTRP10/07/20 04:33 PM
30

IMO it's more about competition between women themselves than for guys. Women see IG models with surgical implants everywhere. Nikki Minaj, Kim K, etc. Or older women. So I think that is driving it, and not so much what guys think. I think it's more fashionable than anything, like tats.
/r/askTRP10/07/20 02:50 PM
1

Next time she contacts you, play along and pretend like nothing happened. But no more dates. Netflix and chill. If she says no, just keep it moving.
/r/askTRP10/07/20 01:57 PM
55

A lot of those bubbles these days are surgically enhanced or inserted. I think most guys prefer natural. I'd rather have a woman who is flat as a rail but natural.
/r/askTRP10/07/20 01:52 PM
1

No dating here. But I agree with part of what you are saying. They will lower their standards, but are they still chasing the top 20% on the DL?
/r/askTRP10/07/20 01:44 PM
5

Lol good one
/r/askTRP10/07/20 03:04 AM
2

I know about the methadone. My mother has been on it for the past 40 years. I feel you on that one.
/r/askTRP10/07/20 01:31 AM
2

Interesting take and makes sense. I wonder if they are still part of the 80% on the DL though.
/r/askTRP10/07/20 01:27 AM
10

Not promiscuous Intellectual
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 12:46 AM
2

Story of my life. I have never been officially diagnosed, but I believe I am on the spectrum (light case of Asperger's before that was eliminated). But l look normal enough to pass. So with a combination of good looks but poor social skills, I was able to get less attractive women (rarely women above 6). Or rather those less attractive women chose me because I was a "catch." I used to think I had something going on, but my ability to get women was based on several factors, none of which included…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/20 01:17 PM
10

"While a hundred considerations carry weight in our case, in theirs there is only one, namely, with which man they have found favor." To me, this means that for women, the ability to get a man and elevate their status is actually quite achievable. Even if a lowly servant got pregnant by a high status male and he supported their illicit offspring on the side, it at least elevated her lifestyle. She wouldn't even need to find a husband to legitimize her and the child. In today's world, with no sha…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/20 12:15 AM
11

And/or on the Sex Offender Registry for life, which is worse than a prison sentence for assault, arson, bank robbery, etc.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/20 04:45 PM
2

Ha ha OK. My ex cut my nails and everything, too. Good for u, sounds like things are solid. I ignore American women almost totally. I just wait till I go to Latin America before I indulge.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/20 03:01 AM
1

OK, well to answer your initial question, foreign women see guys from the west as inherently higher SMV than the locals. I was married to a woman from Latin America myself, and still live here off and on. The hierarchy is: Rich local Rich foreigner Attractive foreigner Attractive local Average foreigner Everyone else
/r/TheRedPill04/07/20 02:24 AM
2

OK, I hope that works out for you.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/20 02:16 AM
2

Foreign women see you as a gateway to the USA (or whatever Western country you hail from). If you ever deal with a foreign woman, you need to tell her that citizenship or a green card is not on the table, in any situation.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/20 02:13 AM
1

Your value is higher when you still have secrets and mystery surrounds you, no matter what. Agree. In an LTR, you have to always "keep something for yourself" that you never change, no matter how much she complains.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/20 12:32 AM
1

Agree with the feedback loop.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/20 08:38 PM
13

The dynamic referred to in your last sentence, IMO, goes like this: Single women are drawn to taken guys because those guys have already been validated and/or proven by another woman: the wife or girlfriend. This is why, for a lot of men, it seems like you get more attention if you are with your gf or wife in public. Even if you are on a date and the woman seems to be into you. Other women are wondering, "What's he got that she's so into"? Provided that it appears the guy is "leading" (not carry…
/r/TheRedPill03/07/20 07:34 PM
1

Agree with this. As long as she knows there is something another woman would desire in you, that **should** be enough to keep her honest.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/20 03:43 PM
108

If you are considering an LTR, the best chance you have to not get cheated on is to always remain high value in her eyes. As long as other women see you as desirable (physically, economically) then your woman will focus her energy on keeping women out of her nest. The moment you become non attractive to other women is the moment that your woman will start to see you as less valuable and may decide to go find excitement elsewhere. ADD: Remaining high value is more difficult than it sounds.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/20 02:41 PM
2

I think there is always SOMEONE out there.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/20 01:52 PM
2

Don’t dig through the trash Nicely put. Also, going back in time allows them a chance to "get you back" for using them as an F-buddy in the past. I fell into this trap a couple of times during "lean" times. Never ends well.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/20 05:52 PM
8

If you aren’t an attractive woman, then there’s not much you can do about it. I think this was the case in the recent past, but not anymore. Now, sex is mostly based solely on pleasure, not necessarily pure reproduction--at least in the West. Even unattractive women are attractive now because guys aren't worrying about being seen with them, marrying them, and reproducing with them. Just hooking up and going your own way after. Wholeheartedly agree with everything else you said.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/20 05:20 PM
11

This.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/20 04:51 PM
21

Agree, especially in the point where you say, she CAN love her children. Even that is no guarantee, as Myka Stauffer and Baby Huxley proved. There is no guarantee either (or both) parents will love you.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/20 03:43 AM
1

Ha ah feel you. I did a couple of 50 year olds last year. It wasn’t exciting.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/20 10:18 PM
28

Hubby lost sexual value in her eyes, then regained it when wifey saw that other women would jump on it (literally!). What a pair. She'll probably straighten up for a few years, but start shit testing him again if he starts to become less attractive to other women down the road.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/20 08:23 PM
1

I can see where she is coming from, but those videos have been downloaded to thousands if not millions of hard drives across the world. They'll get removed from Pornhub but appear on XVideos or even some random tube site the next day. Full videos will be shared P2P. As they say, don't upload anything to the Internet that you don't want the whole world to see, or to be seen forever. Even Stallone's videos are still up.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/20 07:42 PM
0

"I'll be at xyz bar Thursday around 8, you should meet me there and tell me your secret to a long marriage" with a grin and a wink. This one is perfect. If I were horny enough, I would have said, "Hey you look great. I'd go for you if you weren't married!"
/r/TheRedPill29/06/20 05:53 PM
10

She was fishing for validation from you, maybe a little more. If you had said (in a subtle indirect way, of course) something like, "Oh you still look great! Your husband is insane!" she might have deposited her drunk husband in the room and came back down and gave you a bj. I've seen and done a lot in my 44 years. When drunk women start complaining about their husbands to you, they are sending you a signal that you might have a shot if you pursue it. When you are young (20s) and they are 40+, y…
/r/TheRedPill29/06/20 03:06 AM
2

Truth. I've been married twice. Not once did I do any research into anything!
/r/TheRedPill24/06/20 04:10 PM
5

The wealthy and financially literate guys, I imagine. The broke dudes, not so much. But I didn't know that about recent alimony laws.
/r/TheRedPill24/06/20 01:08 AM
4

That is insane. So many of us were young fools back in the day! I went through it with my first wife, too, though it was in the late 90s and, like you said, terms like gaslighting and even Narcissism weren't common knowledge. The good thing is we escaped fairly intact and now know much better. Hopefully young guys on our forum learn from the experience.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/20 10:11 PM
8

That is some scary shit. I don't think I've ever experienced it at that level.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/20 09:38 PM
5

I saw that documentary, my friend. Man, she gave Jodie Arias a run for her money. Still the gaslighting didn't work because the hubby had incontrovertible proof that she tried to have him killed. I don't disagree with you. I'm only saying when the truth is in front of a man, gaslighting won't work.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/20 09:03 PM
6

Yep. The reality is that she took your kindness for weakness during the relationship and only respected you AFTER you showed her you didn't really need her. This is why women, right after they dump a guy because they need more space, start checking up on him when he accepts and goes the other way. And, lo, the fury when you find another girl!
/r/TheRedPill23/06/20 05:52 PM
6

That may be true, but even if the post is a hoax, there ARE real cases out there that guys have experienced.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/20 05:09 PM
19

Good point. Everyone reacts differently. Some guys will be extremely calculating, pretending that they didn't even hear what she said, all the while talking to divorce attorneys, moving cash around, etc. On the other extreme, some guys would have literally gone ballistic. I think, considering the pain he experienced when he heard that he was third best, he is did the right thing. That is, if Reddit and his family don't convince him to stay with her!
/r/TheRedPill23/06/20 12:37 PM
15

Ha ha true. It's so much fun to watch women in their entitlement try to find any which way to keep a guy after she wronged him. The thing is, no matter how blue-pilled or simpish a man is, once he knows for CERTAIN that he is not the main option (like in this case), he'll leave. Even the lowest simp has pride. He's still a man. He just hasn't been woken up.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/20 12:35 PM
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I've got to give him credit. She deceived him on the outset, but when he found out, he is ready to get out. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. It seems like he is NOT a fool, despite what his family says. And, as he said, she has no real power over him other than possible alimony. She has no way to gaslight him because he heard it from her own mouth. No possible misunderstandings for her to stand on and use to reel him in. I'd be interested in seeing the update.
/r/TheRedPill22/06/20 11:14 PM
28

Well said. A lot of guys wasted their youth chasing trim (me included) and barely have anything to show for it in middle age and beyond. Meanwhile the same women from our past always have a lifeline to get resources.
/r/TheRedPill22/06/20 02:21 PM
14

A great read to start the day. Thanks.
/r/TheRedPill22/06/20 02:19 PM
1

There is nothing to be jealous of. Why? Because the average woman knows she is not that attractive. She knows that guys are saying she's attractive because they want to get laid. She knows her friends are just as insecure and are lying their asses off to each other to make each other feel better. In other words, all the validation they are getting from thirsty guys and their girlfriends on social media is an illusion, and women know it. I've had two recent FWBs, both 50 now, who routinely spoke …
/r/TheRedPill21/06/20 12:15 PM
1

You can still find something like that in rural villages in Latin America, but you'd have to move quickly. Female promiscuity has erupted in the big cities down here, and the rural areas are fast being affected. I think when the current crop of grandmothers (who were largely not promiscuous) dies off, that is the end of any NAWALTs in rural Latin America.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/20 07:14 PM
2

Yep. If it were 5 guys sensitive and 5 guys insensitive it wouldn't be an issue. But when I was young, dumb, full of ***, I was very insensitive. That's why I had to take some time off from romance pretty much the past year after I got too clingy with an ex-gf of mine. The time away from all the texting, dating, wondering, and worrying has done me wonders.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/20 02:27 AM
5

Well, if he's acting, he's doing a damned good job of it. The answer is he has swag and is fun to be around. That's really all women want and need in a guy these days. They get their emotional needs met through friends, family, pets, and beta male orbiters.
/r/askTRP15/06/20 08:20 PM
11

A little bit of both. Block her and move on for good.
/r/askTRP15/06/20 08:17 PM
18

Yep, cannot feel guilty for displaying normal, masculine behavior as you mentioned. When you did that, it actually registered to her as normal behavior. I guess with women everything is to be the opposite of what we logically think. I've taken the past 7-8 months off to reflect and to see why I had become so sappy. I realized that a lot of things I did even just 4 years ago, that I recently thought of as "jerk" behaviors, are actually EXPECTED and ACCEPTED by women. It means you are a normal, ma…
/r/TheRedPill15/06/20 07:50 PM
106

Yet, when a 50 year old decides to go for a 25-year old guy, it's seen as "leveling up." And when you try to point out this hypocrisy, they give you a quizzical look like you just dropped in from Neptune with with blue skin and 3 ears.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/20 07:41 PM
23

Yep. And don't tell them about the man's group, either!
/r/TheRedPill15/06/20 06:37 PM
13

This. Cannot get comfortable. They are constantly looking for signs of weakness, especially in today's world where they can easily trade you in.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/20 06:13 PM
70

Not sure about this commenter, but in my case, the beta stuff was: Complaining and obsessing about my weight and struggles with weight. Too much self deprecating humor about being bald. Being too available. I never had any other plans when they called and wanted to get together. You need to say no once in a while (even to sex) when they seek you out. Texting too much. You need to have stuff going on in your life, or else you are basically committing #3 over again. Being too much of a good listen…
/r/TheRedPill15/06/20 06:12 PM
19

Facts. Something like this happened to me last year. I was dating a woman, hitting it right, all good. She confided in me about her past, problems her adult children were having, etc. I was like, "Wow, someone I can open up to!" I told her how I could relate to her children and talked about some of my past issues and how I overcame them. A week later, it was over. She said she "couldn't carry a grown man." So, yeah, I definitely opened up way too fast. I made the mistake of assuming she would wa…
/r/TheRedPill15/06/20 06:05 PM
11

I think the top 40% gets laid, but as the OP mentioned, they'll have to invest more time and $$$. Women will want them, but for the bank account. In this case, her value is inflated 10X.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/20 12:05 PM
4

Once I realized that the available women in my age group (40+) are running around and acting worse than 20 year olds, I pretty much bowed out. I do a little here and there with the women that were still in my life before this realization, but I haven't been looking for anyone new. Right now, focusing on renovating my house and building my business.
/r/MGTOW01/06/20 04:59 PM
6

Ha ha a lot of future MGTOW and red pillers incoming! If you really sit back and think about, women now have several ways to separate you from your money without giving you sex. And they don't have to have a pimp anymore to physically rob you. Things to watch out for: She asks for an advance (even if you are traveling to her). This really works with super desperate guys. She can disconnect as soon as that transfer gets done. She asks for money to perform a background check on you. See above. She…
/r/MGTOW01/06/20 04:54 PM
2

Thank the tech geeks, the new pimps of the world.
/r/MGTOW01/06/20 02:41 AM
42

There is a lot of truth to your comment. In fact, it will become a reality in the next 5 years. Most women and prostitutes are realizing that they can sell sex over a webcam without actually having sex. And for the amount of money they can make in a month, they won't need to sleep with anyone except for the perfect guys.
/r/MGTOW31/05/20 07:13 PM
3

In the past that was the case. Most women knew they weren't getting a Chad long term so they invested in starting a family with an average dude. The average dude who had these qualities women listed ended up being our dads and grandads. Technology has given them access to Chads, and they can enjoy the CC without anyone knowing. I think modern women still parrot what women in the past wanted, just as men still parrot the desire to find a virtuous woman. By the next generation, the old desirable t…
/r/MGTOW29/05/20 08:05 PM
2

Yes. And dating apps and other social media are to blame. Before all this, women were very discreet about what they were doing. If they had several FWBs, you would never know. When she was with you, her attention was on you 100%, no cell phones. Now, women have no shame in competing with men to see who has the bigger notch count. For one, men cannot win such a competition because women can have sex at will. Second, women have openly mocked men by calling them "foodies" and "good guys" and "paych…
/r/MGTOW29/05/20 07:55 PM
4

No surprise there. Women are the like people in the business with access to money. The temptation is always present. Your woman isn't different; she just picks her spots better because she values her reputation. But rest assured, if she is on a trip or visiting family and she can get away with it, she will indulge.
/r/MGTOW25/05/20 08:21 PM
2

Exactly.
/r/MGTOW24/05/20 12:06 PM
16

They put on makeup to compete with each other more than anything.
/r/MGTOW24/05/20 01:01 AM
1

I remember the pain I felt when it all ended was 10x greater than the pleasure.
/r/MGTOW24/05/20 12:30 AM
17

They will have had a threesome, the wife her best friend and the guy, before the end of the week.
/r/MGTOW24/05/20 12:28 AM
6

1000 C stare. She was hoping to return to the CC without distraction. Now she’s looking at a different CC, the Carpet Calvacade.
/r/MGTOW23/05/20 11:34 PM
2

In 1900 and before, being chubby or slightly overweight was seen as a sign of wealth. It literally meant you had consistent access to food and leisure. That’s why older pictures and paintings depict voluptuous, pale women as the ideal. Now, because everyone can eat easily, being slim and tanned is the attractive standard.
/r/MGTOW23/05/20 11:32 PM
2

Chads hit these women on the reg. Your average Chad will still simp for and got shot down by women 10+.
/r/MGTOW23/05/20 11:28 PM
1

I know how you feel. When I got to 6-2 , 280 and a size 46 waist, that’s when I had to decide to live or die. Because another 20 pounds and I was gonna be dead. You are correct about women. They don’t need to worry because they always have options. The ones who let themselves go have just given up on finding Mr. Perfect.
/r/MGTOW23/05/20 11:27 PM
41

Key phrase, "overcomes his programming." People think it's easy to just walk away from relationships that you've invested in. But when you factor in programming, you see why a lot of fellas take a while to do what's in their best interest.
/r/MGTOW27/04/20 01:25 PM
7

The less emotion and interest you show in them, the harder they will try to draw it out of you.
/r/MGTOW27/03/20 01:20 PM
1

Even if you are a billionaire. Ask James Packer and Janet Jackson's ex hubby.
/r/MGTOW27/03/20 01:18 PM
4

The truth is, while these guys are rich, good looking, etc., women still see them as marks. The same for professional athletes.
/r/MGTOW27/03/20 01:18 PM
29

Women enjoy sex, but it varies in priority. Whereas men need sex for it's own sake, women have to consider how they will benefit by giving men sex. If the guy is overwhelmingly physically attractive to her, then it will be strictly for her pleasure. If she ends up pregnant, the child will have good genetics, and she'll be able to keep this guy around for at least more sex in the future. If he's famous, she'll get a nice check and the notoriety of being associated with him, even if only as a baby…
/r/MGTOW27/03/20 01:00 PM
3

My goodness.
/r/MGTOW27/03/20 02:28 AM
4

Yep. By the time I hit 44 last year, I started to realize that I can live without it and the need for validation from women. The good news is there are lot of young MGTOWs out there. The info is circulating.
/r/MGTOW27/03/20 01:11 AM
10

Damn. This is why it's important for men to learn to be alone these days. Most won't get that type of philosophy during their childhood, but hopefully they learn to be single and live their lives by the time they wrap up their 30s. It will prevent loneliness later in life, which your mom's boyfriend experienced.
/r/MGTOW27/03/20 01:09 AM
3

Exactly. It will drive more dudes toward MGTOW, or at least the red pill.
/r/MGTOW27/03/20 01:07 AM
2

I'm about 4 months out of not dealing with women in the sense of actively going after them. Though I still have thoughts, I know it was just instinct and habit. I'm finally starting to see what life is like without them and realizing that I don't need honey in my diet.
/r/MGTOW26/03/20 12:49 PM
1

Actually, Jeff Bezos did revamp his physique big time.
/r/MGTOW26/03/20 12:48 PM
9

In natural point of view the alpha male is the one who gets the women, provides security and resources and so on. This. This was the case until recently when women were able to secure their own resources. 100 years ago, being a literal and figurative "fat cat" would have gotten you the pick of the litter. Can you imagine what desperate women were looking for during the depression. They weren't looking for lean guys with abs. No, that would have been a sign of lack of resources. They would have b…
/r/MGTOW26/03/20 12:47 PM
4

I think whatever you look like, you are going to have to deal with women at some point. Guys who are conventionally attractive will face divorce rape earlier on life. Everyone else, later in life.
/r/MGTOW26/03/20 12:36 PM
6

I agree with you. There are men who are physically attractive but emotionally weak. Once those guys lose their looks (aging, hair loss, weight gain, stress), they fall apart and become jealous SIMPs. Their greatest weakness was the need for female validation, which they once got easily, but end of begging for. That destroys a lot of "Chads" and "Tyrones." And if they ended up getting married and getting cheated on, watch out. I think the media has portrayed physically fit men to be the standard …
/r/MGTOW26/03/20 12:30 PM
2

She said she in not seeing anyone now There's always someone. In the age of smartphones, there is always someone hitting them up. Not seeing someone doesn't mean not sleeping with someone. Of course she won't tell you she's sleeping with someone for fear of scaring you off.
/r/MGTOW26/03/20 12:25 PM
2

hasn't had sex in almost two years due to her increased weight and shit personality Oh, I'd bet she's had sex. Just nothing she's proud of.
/r/MGTOW26/03/20 12:23 PM
1

This even applies to the alpha providers. A lot of stories out there on how professional sports WAGs go crazy when the husband retires or is injured and is actually at home for once. They enjoy the money and status associated with the man, but do not really want to be around the man himself 24/7. It makes sense. If originally men were hunters and were gone all day, or for days at a time. That DNA is encoded in both men and women.
/r/MGTOW26/03/20 12:21 PM
2

Because the husband is bOrINg. Don't take too much stock in why an ex is reaching out. Unless they initiate getting back with you and show you with sex, they are most likely playing games. One game is to see how long it takes for you to show your feelings for her. She likes the challenge. Avoid this game. Also, make sure you have a long memory and keep in mind how she treated you.
/r/MGTOW26/03/20 12:18 PM
1

Beta Billy's getting more attention than ever these days. Hopefully he's been exposed to MGTOW or the red pill in some way.
/r/MGTOW26/03/20 12:15 PM
1

Truth. That's why men are getting educated about what you mentioned. All guys are aware now that Chad and Tyrone play by different rules. It's always been that way, but most women in the past were very discreet. They needed to protect their reputations, which were important when it came time to pair up as you mentioned. This is not the case anymore. Basically women have spoiled their own game, and put men on alert.
/r/MGTOW26/03/20 12:13 PM
1

Facts
/r/MGTOW26/03/20 11:02 AM
29

Yep. And with no more shame from friends and family members, dudes really are disposable.
/r/MGTOW25/03/20 03:40 PM
84

They can't really learn because, as long as they have their holes, they know someone will come and bail them out. She clearly wanted back in with OP, but when he turned her a way, she just went down the list to another past ex or current orbiter. She's not going to be thinking, OMG I never should have fucked him over. We men need to reject them for our own dignity, and nothing more. We are not in a position to teach them any lessons.
/r/MGTOW25/03/20 12:28 PM
22

Women themselves will tell you, "Yeah, she was wild, but she chose YOU. Why can't you see that?" The truth is, even the blue pilled guy starts waking up the moment he's in her web (LTR/Marriage). There's no way, no matter how much you try to justify it, that any man can trust a promiscuous woman. Sweeping her past under the rug and pretending not to notice does not equal trust.
/r/MGTOW25/03/20 12:21 PM
5

They are out looking for known quantities.
/r/MGTOW23/03/20 11:16 PM
38

Wholeheartedly agree. If you are in shape, even decent shape, it's like having a FAST TRAK into their panties. They basically pounce on you. When you are out of shape, balding, or have some other physical attribute that makes you less attractive, they'll push you into dates, shit tests, drama, etc. Now, with dating apps, they can pretty much bypass you in real life altogether. I know because I have been on both sides of the coin throughout my life. When I was 17-19, I was pretty built up. Girls …
/r/MGTOW23/03/20 04:23 PM
3

"The time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end." MGTOW is spreading, steadily. When young 20 somethings are aware of what's going on and acting on it, that's when you know it's not just us "old, bitter, divorced incels who nobody wants."
/r/MGTOW23/03/20 03:54 PM
1

Well, they just ruined THAT for everybody else.
/r/MGTOW23/03/20 12:27 PM
5

she is just selfish as fuck All are these days. At least you caught yourself before you got yourself into a bad situation. When I was your age, most guys I know ended up with kids and marrying or cohabitating with the baby mommas. It didn't end well for most of us. Society had us programmed to "settle down" and "do the right thing" even if we didn't want to get married. Kudos to your generation for having this information and most importantly...using it.
/r/MGTOW22/03/20 03:44 PM
12

Most of the time it's men with nowhere to go who find themselves in this situation. Men with options do not put up with bad behavior from anybody, much less women. A guy who knows he can eject on a crazy wife because he can move home with his parents, and they'd help him get back on his feet, will leave. A guy who knows he makes enough money to cover child support and alimony, plus his own expenses, will go. A guy who just refuses to take any crap, even if it means being homeless, will go. Unfor…
/r/MGTOW22/03/20 02:26 PM
27

This 1000% percent. The same woman browbeating her hubby or boyfriend in public at the grocery will submit happily to a man she views as suitably dominant.
/r/MGTOW22/03/20 02:21 PM
8

It's basically early cuffing season for them.
/r/MGTOW22/03/20 02:19 PM
1

And even the children are still a utility. A lot of divorced women in their 50s and 60s moving back with their single daughters.
/r/MGTOW22/03/20 02:12 PM
1

I'm going to assume you are a young adult and don't have much experience in relationships. Here's my response to your points: A lot of MGTOW guys still sleep with women. They just don't give anything else to them. They keep on their purpose and don't let women derail them. Women can derail you through relationships and marriage. Remember, if a 40 year old man finds himself on the street because of divorce, he doesn't have a vagina to trade for resources and/or a place to stay. A woman in the sam…
/r/MGTOW22/03/20 02:11 PM
66

Dudes are fed up with women's arrogance. Women have always had side dudes and cheated. But they were discreet about it, just as most men were with their affairs. But once women started having open "rotations" and bragging about it, guys are like, "I'm done." All ages.
/r/MGTOW22/03/20 12:31 AM
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Even without the quarantine, guys are on the trail. The quarantine is just going to spread the knowledge faster. I was on YouTube and a lot of guys in their early 20s are already red pill, MGTOW, and some of them monks.
/r/MGTOW22/03/20 12:21 AM
6

Nice!
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 11:14 PM
2

I see women being blatantly disrespectful all the time even at work This happens a lot. Guys think, oh maybe she's just having a bad day, and she's kinda cute, too. Then when the same girl gets in his face and he gets animated, he's the one who's gonna get written up. Of course, they only do this to guys who are at the same level or lower. They will continue to act feminine with men above them as a way of moving up. Then, rinse and repeat.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 11:10 PM
1

You bring up a good point about which state someone lives in.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 10:07 PM
2

This here. A promiscuous woman or man will not be able to change their nature. She can easily tone it down and go under. Hubby will never know the better when she goes to another state to visit her best friend from college.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 07:40 PM
3

I agree with this. Some guys can figure it out from the sidelines, but most have to go through it once or twice to learn their lesson.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 02:30 PM
33

They wanted weak men only for the workplace. If men are handicapped, it makes it easier for women to climb the ladder at work. And just like a man cannot desire a masculine woman, so a woman cannot desire a weak man.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 02:10 PM
5

This.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 01:27 PM
16

Exactly. #Metoo got James Franco, but no charges were filed against him.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 12:57 PM
2

It makes me think about the movie "Fast Food Nation" from 2006. There was a guy who was like a laborer. His wife worked at a food processing plant. When she got hired, her manager immediately took a liking to her. So much that the other workers (whom the manager was doing) began to get jealous. At first, the lady resisted his charms. She was faithful to her man. But then disaster struck and her husband became disabled. With money tight and her husband unable to support the family, she finally ga…
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 12:54 PM
52

Happened to me last year. After I got a promotion and an office, they were coming in and out of the office like it was Grand Central Station. Bringing food, wanting to meet up after work. Some even gave me their numbers. Before that, zilch.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 12:48 PM
4

I wish I could give Pornhub an upvote for that move lol.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 12:45 PM
4

I'm with you.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 12:36 PM
5

Truth.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 12:36 PM
2

In Kobe's case, Vanessa's status will be elevated even higher as Kobe's widow. And now she can control the direction of his brand, even though he's gone.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 12:36 PM
3

Pretty much.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 12:34 PM
1

Agree. If times get rough, pussy would be worth less than a can of beans to the vast majority of men.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 12:33 PM
16

Yep, but they can become infatuated with you. If you know how to manage that you'll have a good time.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 04:03 AM
48

He's going to leave. I can't imagine any self-respecting guy wanting to marry a girl who was pretending to be decent, but is actually a prostitute. That is a huge deception.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 03:53 AM
10

I agree with everything that you said. But, we are working on not doing the same with the gym MILF anymore. Breaking free from the need for pussy.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 03:24 AM
5

Just saw an article. In NC they stopped a truck with 18,000 rolls of stolen toilet paper. Another thing guys can stock up on in these tough times: maxi pads. ;)
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 03:22 AM
4

Guys are slowly but surely wising up. We know that women have "rotations" these days. Many of them don't even try to hide it. I remember dating and messing around when I was in my 20s. Nobody, men or women, went out of their way to talk about who else they were doing when with someone. It was common courtesy. Now, it seems like women have to let you know they have options, even if you never ask them. No self-respecting guy wants to be part of a woman's rotation. Even if I am one of the guys gett…
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 03:20 AM
20

Get fucked ladies. They are way ahead of you. I think as it gets worse, even women who are fairly principled will start to consider those types of options. They'd join a harem of a man with resources if it meant survival. When everything blows over, even if people found out about it, they could say that they had no choice.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 03:10 AM
21

She definitely had her web set up that's for sure. Good thing you sniffed it out (no pun intended). I got involved with a church goer last year. She even invited me to mass one time. I was thinking I had a winner. But as I kept asking the little questions, the little answers started to add up. That was the end of that.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 02:56 AM
42

She probably regrets talking all that shit back in the day! When you turned her away, that was probably the first thing she thought, "Oh my, why did I tell him all that stuff I did when I was younger?" That's going to be a huge trap for the fellas out there: church-going women who have carefully hidden their pasts and come off as virgins, or at least women with a very low body count. A lot of guys will think they hit the jackpot with such a woman.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 12:59 AM
7

She would have done him regardless. She found him physically attractive and the it was a "new experience." The modern woman is all about her new experiences with men. A lot of guys get laid just because they are the right guy at the right time, depending on the experience.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 12:31 AM
3

Ah, the eternal paradox of women. On the one hand, they shame men who pay escorts for sex ("they can't get laid"). On the other, they welcome men paying to see them in skimpy clothing or nude.
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 11:49 PM
54

They'll still be feminists. It will be hidden, however, until the coast is clear.
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 11:47 PM
37

Hopefully during this time, men get acquainted with the term "foodie call"...and how to avoid becoming one.
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 11:45 PM
1

Facts. I think a lot of men are in such a haze, they just can't imagine that women are out there fucking as much as they are. Especially the "Plain Janes" who don't even really party that much or do much of anything. They don't realize that women can operate surreptitiously through dating apps while maintaining their reputation for society--and are doing it. I kind of came to my senses and got red pilled after dating a 50-year old last year. When she told me she was on Tinder here and there, I i…
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 11:15 PM
67

Until he's not the prize anymore (loses his job, a limb, suffers a fall in social status, etc.).
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 11:12 PM
157

Yep. If she starts off complaining about an ex, you need to move on. If she needs "to get to know you first," you need to move on. If she's asking you for favors out of the gate, you need to move on. Those other guys she's complaining about didn't need to do any of that stuff.
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 11:11 PM
3

And once the economy recovers, "Divorces at an all time high!" I just hope the targets...uhm...I mean guys can see through the ruse. Since high school, I've known that I was never going to get really attractive women. 4-6s no problem, so I just went with that. But whenever an 8-10 came my way, I ran for my life. I knew that there was something they wanted from me. Hopefully, these fellas wise up quickly.
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 11:05 PM
2

That's crazy. I just hope these guys don't get all starry-eyed at their new-found options.
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 11:02 PM
1

I think men are wising up in this respect. In the past, it was seen as being weak if you had to pay for sex. Now, paying for sex is seen as a bargain and a wise investment.
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 11:00 PM
1

That's why if any of you have sons, you need to show him how to be masculine. Women want beta males in the workplace because it makes it easier for women to compete. But outside of the workplace, they want masculine men. That will never change. It is nature.
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 10:59 PM
3

Yep. She didn't even give him a handjob to keep him hooked. She totally saw him as a 0 on the man scale.
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 10:58 PM
1

She pulled a nice move on him in the beginning. By offering to pay sometimes (and maybe even doing it), she got him to lower his guard quickly. But since he started funding her life pretty much out of the gate (having him get an app to send her money), any type of intimacy (kiss, blowjob here and there) was out the window. He got oneitis immediately and that killed his chances right then and there.
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 10:55 PM
2

This is true. Attractive betas, "who were cute just couldn't provide enough spark," are about to have the choices of an alphas.
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 10:49 PM
2

This. It's kind of like Uber. They can treat the drivers like crap because there is a new one signing up every moment.
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 10:21 PM
2

If you listen carefully and read between the lines, women always tell you the truth.
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 10:18 PM
1

They are changing the rules of sugaring as we speak. If they get a guy who doesn't demand payment upfront, then why bother paying up?
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 10:11 PM
1

Also, a lot of women who don't need your resources will still leech off of you if you let them.
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 10:00 PM
2

That will make the women go after him even more! You know women have no scruples when competing for a taken guy.
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 09:58 PM
7

If picking up women is your thing, you need to learn one thing: Women pick up on you. If you see a guy sweet-talking a woman and leaving with her, don't be fooled. It's not that he said something that just automatically flipped her switch and made her want to go home with him. He took her home because she deemed him attractive enough for a one-night stand from the moment she saw him. He probably didn't even pay her attention until close to closing time.
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 09:50 PM
3

No benefit. In the case of older simps, I think these are men who came of age before the internet and dating apps, think that the ways of the old world still applies. 20 years ago, you could date a woman and eventually she would sleep with you if you were fairly attractive. You would "grow on her." These older fellows don't realize the amount of options even an ugly 3 has these days. They don't understand why they are striking out, despite not looking much older than 20 years ago, and with more …
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 09:45 PM
5

Actually, I think many will resort to prostitution. The internet has given them the means to be sugar babies or hook up for cash undetected. In the past, women had to basically bare themselves for society to see. Now, women will be able to get offers on apps, drive 2-3 hours away (where no one knows who they are), and continue to make money. And they can tell friends and family a nice story about why they were gone all weekend.
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 09:40 PM
7

Men need to be aware what's going on. If things really get SOL, a lot of women for whom you were invisible, or a backburner option at best, are going to all of sudden be interested in you. Do not give in.
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 09:37 PM
7

It's a peaceful existence, isn't it?
/r/MGTOW18/03/20 02:59 AM
17

If a woman has had a significant amount of partners, there is no way she can truly bond to a guy. There is no real difference between normal women these days and prostitutes.
/r/MGTOW18/03/20 02:55 AM
33

The red pill has been around forever. Just in past societies it wasn't needed.
/r/MGTOW18/03/20 02:45 AM
3

He'll end up with someone if he's got the finances, definitely. If he's smart, he'll have the nup all ready to go. It looks like he really wants a mail-order bride, though.
/r/MGTOW18/03/20 02:43 AM
2

The average girl is even worse than the rest. She needs more validation than a 10, and she gets it chasing Chads and getting plowed. Real story: My dentist's office is right next to Planned Parenthood. I looked over and PP was full...of women. Birth control, monthly STD tests. They might as well go into porn! I remember when you didn't want to be seen dead in a PP office.
/r/MGTOW16/03/20 09:42 PM
3

Among other things! Luckily I got tested soon after we stopped dealing with each other and I was good to go on the STDs.
/r/MGTOW16/03/20 09:22 PM
6

I am so glad I came of age before social media.
/r/MGTOW16/03/20 09:15 PM
26

I would have said, "Yeah she changed my trajectory for the worse."
/r/MGTOW16/03/20 09:04 PM
2

1000000%. If she's attracted to you, she'll text you to death all day long (shiny new toy) and talk your ear off in person. She'll definitely initiate and keep up the witty banter.
/r/TheRedPill16/03/20 05:49 PM
4

I hope he does better negotiations for his clients than he does for himself!
/r/MGTOW16/03/20 03:15 PM
12

Yep. Factor in that the cost of higher education can run in the hundreds of thousands. If there is a divorce, most of the time the children will side with the mother. All the investment you made in the child will go up in smoke. They are more likely to take care of mom in tough times than dad.
/r/MGTOW16/03/20 02:19 PM
4

Don't waste your money dating. Find women for whom YOU are the alpha. Hook up with them, protect yourself, and keep it moving. Today's woman dates men she's not overly sexually attracted to. He may be attractive, but if he is emotionally stable and available, she will push him into a simp role. That's what you want to avoid if you want to deal with women. And watch out for the "success trap." Once you reach your goals, you might start slacking off. As you get bored, you'll start looking for a re…
/r/MGTOW16/03/20 01:58 PM
17

Women WERE more valuable than men. In the past, yes. Children were necessary for a family's survival. More hands to work and provide. Now, children and women are huge financial burdens on men. Add in high rates of divorce and possible poverty for the husband, there is really no real value in women anymore.
/r/MGTOW16/03/20 01:48 PM
19

If you want to give a woman a good time, make sure she's already fucking you first. This. At least make sure you are getting bjs after dates. I was dating a woman last year before I decided to go red pill. She would give me a bj at the end of most dates. I basically looked at it as a $50 date for a blowjob vs paying $100+ for an escort. So it was a good deal. This year, however, I'm saving money!
/r/MGTOW16/03/20 01:39 PM
19

Accept wholeheartedly. The agent showed his hand too quickly. If he had reeled her in with the promise of fancy dates and the high life (but never followed through), then he would have gotten laid pretty quickly. Because there wasn't mutual attraction, they both needed to play a game of holdout to get what they wanted. He caved first and lost.
/r/MGTOW16/03/20 01:36 PM
20

Textbook mistake by the agent. Flashing cash out of the gate without knowing if she is actually attracted to you. In her case, she got the whole cow: an "amazing" night on someone else's dime, a ton of validation, and a smooth getaway from a beta male.
/r/MGTOW16/03/20 01:34 PM
8

Entitled mentality means they think they are doing you a FAVOR just by showing up. It's on the poor guy to be entertaining, witty, etc.
/r/MGTOW15/03/20 06:07 PM
9

Tried to tell him, but he knows it all. Part of it is that his generation came up with the HPV vaccine, which protects against the KNOWN cancer-causing strains of HPV. I think this causes young adults his age to think that because they are "safe" from HPV, that they will be safe from Herpes as well. They know they can get the clap and syphilis taken care of. Also, HIV is now managed. What this has created is the biggest growth of STI breakouts in history.
/r/MGTOW15/03/20 06:05 PM
3

Fall back plan is the best way to say it. But, once you take that red pill, and take it every day, you keep the bugaboos away.
/r/MGTOW15/03/20 03:07 PM
6

She is only vocalizing what most emotionally unavailable women feel. Being a side chick has its benefits. You get amazing sex (because the guy is bored at home), gifts, romance, etc. But at the end of the day, the side chick is free to deal with other guys. When she's ready to drop the married guy, she can do so and there isn't much he can do. Unless he turns out to be a psychopath...
/r/MGTOW15/03/20 03:03 PM
18

The good news is that the red pill and MGTOW are spreading. Guys are getting wiser.
/r/MGTOW15/03/20 03:00 PM
9

People who have options tend to be more arrogant and less empathetic.
/r/MGTOW15/03/20 02:59 PM
11

Never pay for a woman's upgrades. That means don't help with debt, surgery, ex boyfriend issues, etc. Once she gets what she wants she will move on because she never saw you as the alpha.
/r/MGTOW15/03/20 02:57 PM
7

If a beautiful woman approaches you, and you know that beautiful women have never shown any romantic interest in you in your life, alarms should be going off like crazy in your head. Most of the time, she is after something you have. Are in you in a position of power at work? She can use you to get a raise or a promotion. All she has to do is flirt with you on the shift. Are you a little bit harder to influence? She can then resort to sex to move things along. Do you have money? Great! If she ca…
/r/MGTOW15/03/20 02:55 PM
19

STI's are rampant. And the younger generations are NOT using condoms. I know this because my own son (22) told me. I asked him why he's not using protection. He said because the girls he's dealing with are "clean."
/r/MGTOW15/03/20 02:49 PM
28

I wouldn't give too much credit to our grandmothers' generation. They didn't have the options that women have today. They were utterly dependent on men. And by the time equality came around in the 80s and 90s, they were too old to take advantage of it. Set in their ways and comfortable with their lives in their later years, they stuck with our grandfathers. I'm not saying ALL, but I think many would have left their husbands a long time before if they could have. Otherwise, I agree with your poin…
/r/MGTOW15/03/20 02:48 PM
4

Good luck with your crusade, my friend. Even if some of the women completely agree with you, they will go with herdthink. It's a colossal waste of time.
/r/MGTOW15/03/20 02:31 PM
4

I married one. From a traditional culture. Exactly as OP described. Except she would use family life and our child to prevent me from taking risks.
/r/MGTOW13/03/20 04:55 AM
13

Glad to see guy from Story #2 at least got some consolation. Women are pretty short sighted these days. Instead of realizing that at 50 it's easier to just join resources and ride it out, once they hit empty nest status they want to go out and relive their sophomore year...of HIGH SCHOOL. smdh I don't think she'll have too many takers at her age. No chance at a young simp taking her in, and no dude her age is gonna bite. She might be able to con a lonely 70+, however. Women always have an option…
/r/MGTOW13/03/20 04:49 AM
24

💯These women are the most dangerous, indeed. They can spark a man's protective instincts. With the right amount of sex, attention, and validation, the man falls in love quickly and finds himself in a hell of a situation as you so aptly described. He feels validated because, after all, he is being the provider, which has been nature's plan for the past millenia. So it is hard for him to see anything wrong with it. Then society applauds him for "stepping up."
/r/MGTOW13/03/20 12:22 AM
5

This. My first marriage disintegrated after about 2.5 years and my son was 2. Kids only exacerbate differences between people; they don't bring people together.
/r/MGTOW12/03/20 11:53 PM
17

Horrific.
/r/MGTOW12/03/20 11:51 PM
1

💯
/r/MGTOW12/03/20 10:55 PM
32

Was doing HR at a medium sized food plant last year. We had a problem. The janitor (male) didn't want to clean the ladies bathroom. At first we thought he was just being lazy. But when we went in there, oh my God. It made sense why a lot of the women were sneaking into the office to use that bathroom. Guys might miss the at times, but that is pretty much it. No man or woman wants to be cleaning pads, blood, etc. And yes, there were bloody lady things on the floor. But it's no secret. Most women …
/r/MGTOW12/03/20 08:53 PM
5

Same feeling. I don't think it was very different in the late 90s and early 2000s before I got married, but women were definitely pretending to be good girls and not openly discussing their whoring.
/r/MGTOW12/03/20 08:40 PM
1

Damn.
/r/MGTOW11/03/20 07:32 PM
2

There goes my breakfast...
/r/MGTOW11/03/20 03:16 PM
1

Yep. As soon as you see a woman with a sketchy past doesn't want sex, that's the cue to cut your losses and move on. She's still doing the guys from a her past.
/r/MGTOW11/03/20 02:07 PM
1

Yep always put your grind ahead of women. Of course, when a woman sees you on. A mission, she'll hone in on you like a heat-seeking missile.
/r/MGTOW11/03/20 02:06 PM
2

Yeah the whole masculinity thing of women these days is bewildering.
/r/MGTOW11/03/20 02:05 PM
3

Hookup culture is disgusting. Especially 40 and 50 something out there whoring around worse than 20 year olds.
/r/MGTOW11/03/20 01:00 PM
17

I found my way to MGTOW and the red pill just a few months ago. I never thought dating apps were for people over 40. I thought Tinder was for kids. When a 50 year old I was hooking up with told me about her Tinder exploits, I was flabbergasted. That's how naive I was about modern dating. After a 15-year marriage, I realized I had a lot to learn. From watching dating coach videos to learning about the red pill to MGTOW, I realize I don't have the stomach to deal with promiscuous women in their 40…
/r/MGTOW11/03/20 12:24 AM
1

You are stuck blaming yourself for your perceived shortcomings. The reality is, you did the right thing and preserved your dignity. She tried to change the relationship, you didn't want that and you walked. You won. You would have lost if she had stayed with you and cheated. Or gotten pregnant. Or if you had accepted the open relationship just to be with her. Because you avoided these things, which would have REALLY traumatized you, you showed her that you have dignity and self respect. Still fe…
/r/MGTOW11/03/20 12:19 AM
3

Good chance another guy nutted in her and she wants to pin the child on you. Good move with the morning after pill, but if your ex comes back and is desperate to fuck WITHOUT a condom, something is going on. If there's not another dude, she could be trying to trap you with a baby, or at least get a reliable check. Especially if you are about to get a good job and leave. She doesn't have any other "reliable boyfriend /baby daddy options" right now. That's what this reeks of.
/r/MGTOW11/03/20 12:12 AM
4

Looks like #2 and #3 have been reversed over the past 100 years.
/r/MGTOW11/03/20 12:03 AM
2

Yep. I was much better when I was younger. After a 15—year marriage my blade needs a lot of sharpening.
/r/MGTOW10/03/20 04:04 PM
12

It's better to understand female nature than to try to change it.
/r/MGTOW10/03/20 02:34 PM
15

This 100%. If you've ever been approached or pursued by a woman (and you're a normal guy), most likely she is down there on the SMV scale.
/r/MGTOW10/03/20 02:22 PM
6

A lot of women are out there "mean mugging" while driving around, too. If I have an encounter with another driver, it'll probably be a woman.
/r/MGTOW10/03/20 02:17 PM
1

Nofap for 4 months did the trick for me. It took me years to work up to it though.
/r/MGTOW10/03/20 05:27 AM
48

Did you have a paternity test???
/r/MGTOW09/03/20 11:54 PM
2

No kids? Hell yes, you should. Go for it!
/r/MGTOW09/03/20 11:24 PM
88

The good news is your shields are functioning at full capacity! Cheers to you. Grill yourself a steak, pour a glass of wine, and be grateful for that ray beam you just deflected. 💯
/r/MGTOW09/03/20 11:23 PM
6

She is a love-bombing narcissist. Poor guy is in for a loooonnnnnng roller coaster ride...
/r/MGTOW09/03/20 11:13 PM
3

Yeah, she's just playing herself, lol.
/r/MGTOW09/03/20 11:02 PM
5

Thanks.
/r/MGTOW09/03/20 10:03 PM
5

I'm on my way to this myself.
/r/MGTOW09/03/20 09:54 PM
5

This is what happens when the woman wears the pants in the modern family. Guys become girls, and the girls become surefire whores down the road. I wonder what the boy's mother thinks? Also, I notice that Gabby Union has no problem parading her stepson around to advance her agenda, but keeps her own daughter out the spotlight.
/r/MGTOW09/03/20 09:27 PM
1

She forgot, "They pay to avoid the HEADACHES after they finish with us." Also being able "to get it" is not mutually exclusive to paying for it. Sometimes it is simply more cost effective to pay. $250 for a guaranteed session with a provider >>> $500 for 5 dates with MAYBE a 50-50 chance of getting laid at the end of the 5th date. Not to mention emotional issues between you and her.
/r/MGTOW09/03/20 09:20 PM
54

No man is that stupid. He knows if he is getting the "alpha" or "beta" treatment. Most men, however, choose to ignore the signals because they think they can "fix" the situation, or win the woman over and win her heart. Like in the movies. However, he knows the truth because she TELLS HIM THE TRUTH, either explicitly or implicitly. Explicitly could be the following : "You're not really my type, but..." "You're growing on me..." "You're good to my children..." "You're really sweet." "You're diffe…
/r/MGTOW09/03/20 07:36 PM
10

I agree with this. If you are physically attractive, you'll often get laid before you even have a chance to make mistakes.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/20 03:14 PM
8

I have lived on and off in Mexico since 2007 and it has been ruined as well. Divorce rate is up and the CC has more customers than ever.
/r/MGTOW09/03/20 01:15 AM
4

This. They want the one guy out of 20 who doesn't pedestalize them.
/r/MGTOW08/03/20 01:11 PM
3

In a dating context, with an emotionally unavailable woman, if she just gives you blowjobs, it means she's stuck about what to do with you. It means that the physical and/or financial attraction is there, but there is something about your emotional makeup that makes her think you'll get attached too easily once she gives you sex. She is subconsciously perceiving that you may not have any other options (despite you being attractive), thus lowering your value to her. She herself is nowhere near re…
/r/MGTOW08/03/20 11:51 AM
12

His dad didn't tell him that trophies are meant to be hoisted by the whole team.
/r/MGTOW08/03/20 04:38 AM
55

And lots of bacteria and viruses.
/r/MGTOW08/03/20 04:33 AM
4

Yep, her aunt probably likes you, too. So she will fire you, not her niece if you two start hooking up.
/r/MGTOW08/03/20 02:06 AM
3

"Hot" is the key word. More like "radioactive." She's still fucking some of those old Chad and Tyrones, plus her boyfriend. And she wants to add you to that list. Most young people are not using protection. They think that because they have a vaccine for HPV, that they are safe from HERPES. That stuff is out there. Women, especially Latinas, do not like condoms getting in the way of their next amazing sexual encounter. OH, and don't fish off the company pier! Tread carefully.
/r/MGTOW08/03/20 02:05 AM
1

Facts
/r/MGTOW08/03/20 01:57 AM
3

I have a lady I deal with 3-4 times a month. After a year of mind games by 4 different women last year (which led me to the red pill), I took a step back and can see pretty clearly how society has changed.
/r/MGTOW08/03/20 01:54 AM
3

This right here. Syphilis, which was once considered eradicated, is back with a vengeance. Condoms are only 70% effective with HPV and Herpes because those viruses are spread by skin-to-skin contact. Because millenials under 30 have come up and received the Gardasil HPV vaccine, they think they are bulletproof. Be careful out there. Even your regular "Plain Jane" is a walking, talking chemlab these days.
/r/MGTOW08/03/20 01:52 AM
2

Take off at least 3 months from dating and even FWBs. Clear your contacts. The peace of not wondering who's texting you, or why they aren't texting you, or should you text them will all be out the window. Just that will help open your eyes. Good luck!
/r/MGTOW08/03/20 01:44 AM
10

And they are the first to say "no dick pics." Lol
/r/MGTOW08/03/20 01:24 AM
3

You'll actually get less sex because now that she's got you in the bag, there is no need for her to expend that type of energy. A woman will only keep sexing you up regularly if she fears you can/will leave for a better option. Otherwise, a dead bedroom is a possibility. And even if she is eager to give you sex, you yourself will start to get bored of the same ole stuff.
/r/MGTOW07/03/20 03:57 PM
5

You now have essentially 3 wives. Daughters drain you in the same way their mothers do. If your wife doesn't undermine your influence, you can shape them for the better. That's a big IF.
/r/MGTOW07/03/20 03:54 PM
12

They'll help you at your low points if there is some potential benefit for them.
/r/MGTOW07/03/20 02:03 PM
10

Yep. Most women don't like giving blow jobs long term even if they are quite adept at it. It's the best tool they have short of full sex to get the quickest results for what they are looking for.
/r/MGTOW07/03/20 12:14 PM
1

💯
/r/MGTOW07/03/20 10:48 AM
3

Yep. A lot of fellas have trouble spotting this type of fraud, especially if they are attractive and have been getting laid by other women.
/r/MGTOW07/03/20 10:42 AM
9

First "date" should basically be coffee. If the physical chemistry is there, she'll take it from there and you'll end up in bed before you know it. If she's not feeling you, you'll know after the first meet up and then you can cut ties. Otherwise, she'll breadcrumb you enough to keep taking her out. Women do love their arm candy. The guy who is handsome enough to be seen with and will even get positive remarks from her friends, but just doesn't quite turn her on. Anyhow, this same guy she is see…
/r/MGTOW07/03/20 10:41 AM
28

MGTOW incoming!
/r/MGTOW07/03/20 09:46 AM
5

She saw that you were the one guy in the office that wasn't interested, so she decided to directly seek attention and validation from you. Once she got it, the game was over. This will happen very often at work. Learn to spot this type of behavior so it doesn't throw you off your grind.
/r/MGTOW07/03/20 09:41 AM
5

This is true. When times are tough, the women in your life will evaporate into thin air. But trust me, they'll be back as soon as you get it together!
/r/MGTOW07/03/20 09:36 AM
3

This
/r/MGTOW07/03/20 09:33 AM
68

If you got a woman giving you primo blow jobs, there's a reason behind it. She's got some great long term plans for you! 😂
/r/MGTOW07/03/20 09:18 AM
2

Not only kids, but mom, dad, dog, cat, sisters, coworkers. Damn near anyone to avoid attending to your needs.
/r/MGTOW06/03/20 10:42 PM
1

It can work if the woman marries the actual guy she wanted, and not #3 or #8. If hubby is absolutely the one who rocks her world, then on her end it will work. However, the guy has to settle. And he may be settling for reasons that aren't great. A lot of women have their guy that they have to support due to a criminal record, laziness, etc. But because he is her alpha and #1 choice, then she will happily do it.
/r/MGTOW06/03/20 10:30 PM
5

Wow
/r/MGTOW06/03/20 07:29 PM
2

I'll be traveling for the next few months and I actually plan to put what I've been learning into play. I will look forward to teasing women, though, being the guy they can't get or con.
/r/MGTOW06/03/20 03:54 PM
6

"Pussy Galore"
/r/MGTOW06/03/20 03:50 PM
9

Exactly. Women are naturally curious about the ONE guy out of 100 who doesn't kiss their asses or try to flirt with them.
/r/MGTOW06/03/20 03:45 PM
6

Because they know they won't get in trouble. In a retail setting, those stores have major turnover. So most employees get the benefit of the doubt. If the manager is a male, the female employees will manipulate him in different ways, mainly with their charms, wiles, and wares. The work ethic of younger generations in general is also different. Younger employees tend to see themselves as doing the employer a favor by being there, rather than seeing what they can do to really add value to the busi…
/r/MGTOW06/03/20 03:43 PM
6

Some women do spit game like a man. I was in a shoe store two weeks ago and this older woman, ugly as sin, started off with: Her: Excuse me do you work here? Me: No. Her: Oh, I thought you worked here. Me: No, just shopping. Her: Who are you shopping with? Me: MY WIFE (same go to that women use) Her: Oh with your wife? Mumbles something unintelligible. I walked away and she was still looking at me, mumbling. There are indeed desperate women out there. Otherwise, like the poster says, teasing is …
/r/MGTOW06/03/20 03:31 PM
12

I hope the guys in the east aren't foolish enough to go the way of the west, with regards to women.
/r/MGTOW06/03/20 03:25 PM
8

Even if they don't consciously feel this way, they know deep inside that pretty much everything is in their favor, even if they cheat. Their families will always support the "Little Princess" to the end. Not to mention the state.
/r/MGTOW06/03/20 03:21 PM
3

That's a no go lol. No big events. That's what simps are for!
/r/MGTOW05/03/20 01:28 PM
3

Better to deal with someone who is honest with who they are. You'll suffer a lot less damage in the long run.
/r/MGTOW05/03/20 02:29 AM
10

That's how you do it. She was trying to convert you to her emotional tampon.
/r/MGTOW05/03/20 02:26 AM
5

I have an FWB. We get together when I'm in town once a week. Cost: I'll bring her little shit like coffee cups and t-shirts from where I was traveling for work. So the last round, maybe $50 for 10 sessions. But no need to date her or anything when I'm in town, just sex and conversation.
/r/MGTOW05/03/20 02:06 AM
1

Yikes!
/r/MGTOW05/03/20 01:55 AM
1

Facts. Also don't forget that there are tons of birthday parties, baptisms, Quince años etc. Throughout the year. You could spend over 1000 a year just on gifts for extended family.
/r/MGTOW04/03/20 08:47 PM
5

You can be 777 or 888 and you still ain't safe.
/r/MGTOW04/03/20 03:57 PM
13

I'm skippin breakfast after this one.
/r/MGTOW04/03/20 03:45 PM
3

If they start bringing up their past in a confessional type of way, it means that she likes you, but more long term. She is seeing if her past bothers you. But good for you for holding to your standards. Nobody wants a woman for a serious relationship that has admitted to being on the CC. Especially in a highly traditional setting like the Muslim World.
/r/MGTOW04/03/20 03:08 PM
16

I was married to woman with a huge, nosy, and meddling family. In the end I just told her that I couldn't continue to be married to her family anymore. It was exhausting. This is the downside of marrying a traditional woman from another culture. Sure the family values are there and will keep her in line. But the family itself is also there and it is overwhelming.
/r/MGTOW04/03/20 01:27 PM
3

The internet allows women who are sexually viable at any age to sell their services. Yet, for the benefits you listed that they enjoy, many of them still want to be men!
/r/MGTOW04/03/20 11:58 AM
2

Yup. Also the fact that resting bitch face is actually acceptable behavior these days. Last year, my boss proudly and openly admitted to having RBF...in a meeting! No one said anything, of course, even her boss. So naturally her sense of entitlement grew.
/r/MGTOW04/03/20 11:55 AM
3

Well said.
/r/MGTOW04/03/20 11:34 AM
9

It's actually the best thing you could read if you are trying to date. They are literally giving you the keys to the car...except you have to read between the lines. You have to do the OPPOSITE of what they are saying. Why? Because the guys they chase and obsess over always do EXACTLY what they are bitching about. They complain about guys who don't text enough. How can they get him to text and validate more? Whatever they say, you go the other way. They want you to text at all hours of the day? …
/r/MGTOW04/03/20 11:33 AM
18

Chad and Brad are part of the same continuum. A guy who's an 8 (trim, athletic, pretty face, good D, full head of hair) will be chased by a lot of women, basically 7s and lower. He can swoop in a bop a 7 on the lates, steal a 6 from her boyfriend, have a harem of 4s and 5s, and maybe land an occasional 9. He is striving for 8-10s on a regular basis. But Chad ends up simping for those 8—10s. The same woman our Chad is whining and dining is chasing a celebrity. Despite the fact that our Chad has t…
/r/MGTOW04/03/20 11:19 AM
5

Women will be the first to tell you that they don't trust each other. Ever see how girls clutch on their boyfriends just a little more when a super hot chick enters the room and flaunts it all? They know.
/r/MGTOW04/03/20 03:42 AM
1

Keep on your grind. She'll pursue you the more you ignore her. At that point, when she reaches her crescendo and is ready to give it to you, you make your decision. If she plays games with you, you walk and never look back.
/r/MGTOW04/03/20 03:29 AM
9

It's a telltale sigh they went through or are going through a hoe phase. Strictly pump and dump.
/r/MGTOW04/03/20 03:23 AM
7

That's the hardest 39 years I've ever seen on anyone.
/r/MGTOW04/03/20 03:20 AM
1

Wait till you start dealing with 40-50+. They'll tell you they are fucking everyone in sight and be proud of it.
/r/MGTOW04/03/20 01:53 AM
1

Saved. This one is a classic.
/r/MGTOW04/03/20 01:51 AM
1

True. But some girls will be intrigued. It's all a numbers game, if you're willing to play the game at all.
/r/MGTOW04/03/20 01:47 AM
14

She's pissed he stood her up. If you are the ONE guy out of 100 that doesn't kiss her ass and put her on the pedestal, you're the guy that gets the honey in the end. When women start writing books like that, you know you got to 'em.
/r/MGTOW04/03/20 01:45 AM
9

Reddit is going where the money is. A lot of advertising is driven by female spending.
/r/MGTOW04/03/20 01:42 AM
1

That may have something to do with it. But really, people who grow up in low income areas are taught to fight from an early age, like pit bulls. My grandmother raised me. She expected me to fight it out. One time I was getting my ass kicked and tried to run in the house. She blocked my path and told me to get back out there keep fighting. This was the mentality of most of the single mothers and (usually negative) male figures. Young boys and girls were like pit bulls. Also, boys and girls fighti…
/r/MGTOW04/03/20 01:38 AM
2

Yes!
/r/MGTOW03/03/20 10:21 PM
49

She's worried that you've found someone prettier and moved on. Good move.
/r/MGTOW03/03/20 10:17 PM
3

Got laid a lot in my 20s and 30s. Career helped me with confidence, which helped me with the ladies. All this was pre-dating apps so I'm not sure I would have been as lucky if I were in my 20s-30s today. I think the peak for men depends on his financial situation. If a man is happy with his finances, the confidence he gains from that will be evident to women, who will come into his life.
/r/MGTOW03/03/20 01:37 PM
3

He's a snake oil salesman but if fat spinsters follow him, you can't knock the hustle.
/r/MGTOW03/03/20 01:33 PM
9

Now the Thots are really gonna be after you! Congrats on the ride to. 👍
/r/MGTOW03/03/20 02:29 AM
13

Yep. A major trap that I always fall for is when she texts the hell out of me early. Good morning, good night, u so handsome, blah blah. Then when you let your guard down and respond, they are gone.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/20 06:33 PM
1

💯
/r/MGTOW01/03/20 03:58 PM
10

Never go to a nightspot with a woman. She'll use you to pay for everything while she flirts with other guys. Definite no-no.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/20 03:58 PM
34

Yes. I never realized how important attention and validation is to women until recently. You need to prescribe it in very small and well-timed doses.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/20 03:54 PM
1

If they had something in common (a hobby), definitely. But both the man and woman would still search for a person who has the same hobby and presents a romantic possibility.
/r/MGTOW01/03/20 03:52 PM
2

How many women do you reckon have the herp these days?
/r/MGTOW01/03/20 03:39 PM
16

The irony of it is men are the ones allowing all these changes to pass.
/r/MGTOW01/03/20 03:30 PM
1

Financial success? No.
/r/MGTOW01/03/20 05:18 AM
9

That might catch him a case tho.
/r/MGTOW01/03/20 05:07 AM
9

The less you fear other's opinions, the more they will respect you. They may not like you, but they will respect you. And with women, there are plenty of stories of them fucking guys who are jerks, but jerks they respect.
/r/MGTOW01/03/20 05:03 AM
4

You can use a woman without actually being her boyfriend.
/r/MGTOW29/02/20 03:07 PM
3

She may be giving herself too much credit. The guy probably knows exactly what he is doing: buying an attractive wife. You'll know this if he gets all the paperwork in order before buying... I mean... MARRYING her.
/r/MGTOW29/02/20 01:43 PM
17

People don't realize that Chad can become Brad when he comes across the right (or wrong?) woman. And vice-versa. It's a continuum, not an absolute guarantee that Chad is always Chad.
/r/MGTOW29/02/20 12:43 PM
5

Judge threw the whole bookcase at her, shit.
/r/MGTOW29/02/20 04:38 AM
173

New guy probably wishes he could trade places with you.
/r/MGTOW29/02/20 04:34 AM
6

You pretty much gotta lead with sex these days if you want it. Masculine guys who weren't neutered as boys do this instinctively. Guys who were neutered think they have to get in the girls good graces before getting in her pants.
/r/MGTOW29/02/20 12:15 AM
39

If you grow up in the hood, the only role models are pussy chasers. The media reinforces the stereotype through pop culture. The only black guys who can escape the mentality are those who happened to have strong male figures in their lives.
/r/MGTOW29/02/20 12:12 AM
49

Kid's gonna off her down the road. A lot of guys get fucked up by single moms and take it out on mom in one way or another.
/r/MGTOW29/02/20 12:10 AM
14

If you are starting to see a woman and she starts talking about cruises and vacations (just her with/without the girls), you know right then and there to not consider anything serious.
/r/MGTOW29/02/20 12:07 AM
17

Of course, when he moves on and finds someone else she'll lose her shit.
/r/MGTOW27/02/20 03:42 AM
6

I don't think you need to take the red pill again. Clearly you are red pilled; that's why you are having some serious misgivings about this one. I have a few, too. She wants you to start playing father to her child, and now wants you to take on concrete responsibilities (picking up the child, babysitting, possible discipline). That's a little much, especially in this day and age when women are more disloyal than ever. Even up to 10 years ago, it wouldn't have been a terrible idea. Especially if …
/r/MGTOW26/02/20 10:15 PM
1

And if you know that some guy will bail you out down the road...
/r/MGTOW26/02/20 04:07 PM
2

They never dump Chad. They'll always go back to him and/or Tyrone once their life with the "good man" gets straightened out and is on cruise control. I know for a fact that my first ex wife was still recently visiting the same guy that she cheated on ME with 25 years ago. I felt so bad for her current hubby, but it wasn't my place to meddle. And, as you mentioned, if women follow their instincts and their true natures, that is pretty much the path for most women. Women are attracted to men that …
/r/MGTOW26/02/20 03:58 PM
3

Imagine that, she dated him even though he wasn't her type. Guess why? And she's a heifer herself. Entitlement.
/r/MGTOW26/02/20 01:17 AM
3

The scary thing is, these types of women exist and have a nice sob story for you. She hasn't been with a man for 5 years because her last ex was abusive. She goes on and on a the fool thinks he's struck gold. I've seen it happen a lot with older guys who have their shit together.
/r/MGTOW24/02/20 03:56 PM
2

Once a woman gives you pudding, she's lost. Even if she decides she just wants to be friends soon after. If you hit it a couple of times, and she decides she just wants to be friends, and you say "cool" and stop contacting her, I guarantee you she will be pissed because YOU are not chasing, even if she is doing other dudes. They just can't win with themselves. Probably why 80% will tell you they are seeing a therapist and on who knows what type of anti-depressant.
/r/MGTOW24/02/20 03:45 PM
1

And berating him for not having prepared for his retirement when he was younger.
/r/MGTOW23/02/20 12:31 AM
3

Yep. The moment he changes (which he is too smart to do), the moment she would start to take advantage of him. But that is how you have to deal with women. There has to be something about you that she can never change.
/r/MGTOW22/02/20 05:18 PM
15

She's going to try to trap you. I can already tell you that now. If you walk, she'll change up to get you back. The sex will be fire, to keep you hooked. If you go raw, she will get pregnant. Been there, bruh. If you walk, do not go back!
/r/MGTOW22/02/20 02:18 PM
2

He's going to literally end up in the dog house.
/r/MGTOW22/02/20 01:58 PM
1

Poor new guy!
/r/MGTOW21/02/20 03:48 PM
2

Major shit test. Not even based on something real. It's a sign she sees you as boring, so she needs to drum up some emotion. This is a sign that she's bored and probably has other guys on tap. When you start getting shit tested, that's a sign that she is fast losing (or has already lost) attraction. So, what should you do? Walk away. Ghost. Watch her go crazy wondering how you shall of a sudden changed up. However, don't go back. This one is crazy.
/r/MGTOW20/02/20 09:39 PM
2

If you are jealous, controlling, and insecure, that means your boundaries are getting in the way of her fucking around on the side. That's why in the early stages of dating and relationships, women will ghost a guy who has (or will have) firm boundaries.
/r/MGTOW20/02/20 09:19 PM
10

Women are a paradox. As long as you do the opposite of what they say or want, you're good.
/r/MGTOW20/02/20 08:02 PM
5

100% this. There were times in the past where I would see a woman at work or at the gym. I'd think, she's so far out of my league. And I don't waste time with out of my league. So, I would just ignore these types. Which brought them knocking on my door, wondering why I wasn't slavering over them. Even bagged some of them.
/r/MGTOW20/02/20 03:57 PM
3

One thing I've learned this past year in dealing with the "modern" woman is that attention and validation are the names of the game. Women will always control access to sex, and men are no longer the gatekeepers to relationships (as women no longer need men to survive). But, men do control attention and validation. The more you ignore them or essentially treat them like another fella in the workplace, the more they do to try to get your attention. Even to the point where they start complimenting…
/r/MGTOW20/02/20 03:51 PM
1

You are not in control anymore, OP. If she wanted to fuck still, you would still be together. Or at least still be fucking. Even if she does want to get back with you, has anything really changed? Have you changed in any way that would make her more attracted to you? Has she changed in any way that you won't consider unattractive anymore (bad personality, narcissism, etc.). I would wager PROBABLY NOT. Remember, if you choose to deal with women, you need to adapt certain behaviors. One is to NEVE…
/r/MGTOW20/02/20 03:48 PM
11

Yet they will continue to only find masculine and dominant men attractive in the bedroom, or worth following in the workplace. Remember with women, everything is a paradox. Once you understand that, you'll get along fine.
/r/MGTOW20/02/20 03:30 PM
2

That is exactly what has happened. Before, the average woman didn't have many more options than the average guy. Now there are thousands of options across the country (or even world, for that matter).
/r/MGTOW20/02/20 03:26 PM
5

You underestimate those cows.
/r/MGTOW20/02/20 03:24 PM
3

Now they are selling products that smell like their boxes. Lol, it must be good to be on the gravy train.
/r/MGTOW20/02/20 02:26 PM
24

The seemingly normal girls who don't appear to be party girls can really throw you for a loop. We know what to expect from party girls, whores, etc. But when someone we think (and hope) is a good girl, it sucks to find out that that is not the case.
/r/MGTOW20/02/20 01:40 PM
6

That is indeed the silver lining in this story. Even that is rare. A lot of kids turn against the dad because mom chips away at the kids over the course of their childhood, to position herself first in their eyes.
/r/MGTOW19/02/20 09:19 PM
4

Never pay for their upgrades.
/r/MGTOW19/02/20 09:16 PM
2

Ha ha still true!
/r/MGTOW19/02/20 03:59 PM
2

Exactly. Once anyone is introduced to fast and "easy" money (prostitution, selling drugs, white collar crime), it will be nearly impossible for them to let it go unless they suffer a serious, life-changing consequence in life. For men into easy money, that means prison. Guys who don't want to go back to prison will stop whatever they were doing. Women who are involved in prostitution never really have to stop. With apps they can just go underground. Be a sugar baby. Video cams. Hooking up with g…
/r/MGTOW19/02/20 03:57 PM
1

That is the last thing a man who is serious about a woman wants to know.
/r/MGTOW19/02/20 04:52 AM
14

A lot of men who got HPV before the vaccine came out are going to be in a similar situation to Michael Douglas in the near future: Oral cancer. But without access to Michael Douglas' healthcare plan.
/r/MGTOW19/02/20 04:40 AM
3

I think 20 years ago, probably. Now anyone can admit to any crime damn near and be accepted as long as they are attractive and generate clicks and revenue.
/r/MGTOW19/02/20 04:01 AM
7

I suppose she was the expert consultant along with her role.
/r/MGTOW19/02/20 03:37 AM
55

Her: I've made so many bad choices in life. I'm ready for a real man who will step up and be responsible, caring, yet fun and energetic. RedPillTranslator.com: I've done all the fun stuff you can imagine, but don't expect any of that. Oh yeah, and you still need to constantly pull out all stops for my entertainment! YOU are gonna have to be on your A game every day or else!
/r/MGTOW19/02/20 12:32 AM
7

This exactly. They go after teen alphas, because they know they can't control grown ones.
/r/MGTOW18/02/20 04:21 PM
5

The real kicker: he gets to finance her wh000ring for the next 20 years. What a deal!
/r/MGTOW18/02/20 04:17 PM
17

This.
/r/MGTOW18/02/20 04:16 PM
5

With women, the less you want it, the more aggressive they get in trying to force you to take it.
/r/MGTOW18/02/20 04:13 PM
5

They are the most desperate to cling to their youth. They were running around like they were still 27. It was kind of sickening, actually.
/r/MGTOW18/02/20 04:01 PM
8

Last year I learned that 50yo+ women are the worst of them all.
/r/MGTOW18/02/20 03:26 PM
48

All too real. These real life stories are scarier than anything Wes Craven could have conjured up. Imagine the times when a woman gets pregnant by one guy, then seeks out the beta bux and FINALLY decides to sleep with him. He has no idea why but he is ecstatic that it happened. All the while she knows exactly what is going on.
/r/MGTOW18/02/20 03:25 PM
1

High protein, medium carb.
/r/MGTOW17/02/20 10:54 PM
8

Yep. Women think that they are giving you a gift that men just can't refuse. And for the most part they are right. There are so many simps and white knights who would do damn near anything to get the honey. So when you toss it aside if you got it, that just doesn't compute for them. For them, giving you the honey pot is everything.
/r/MGTOW17/02/20 10:52 PM
5

In her case, SCUD missile. OP did say she ballooned to belugan proportions.
/r/MGTOW17/02/20 10:45 PM
14

And...she's the other guy's problem now. He probably envies YOU.
/r/MGTOW17/02/20 10:44 PM
2

Exactly. I'm sure her hubby has some major satisfaction watching her squirm, too. It doesn't happen often, but when you have the advantage fellas, enjoy it!
/r/MGTOW15/02/20 06:43 PM
2

I'm with you on the lone wolf. It's the way I've been for the past 25 years.
/r/MGTOW15/02/20 06:42 PM
13

As we get older and grow apart from the guys, that's when we tend to start making mistakes with women and getting caught up. When you run with the pack, the pack self polices. Simping gets called out. Your boys will tell you when someone is bad for you. Once we are away from the boys, we lose that protection. Returning to the group is best thing for you as you GYOW.
/r/MGTOW15/02/20 02:06 AM
8

At least your parents had respect for each other, if only grudging. That doesn't exist anymore. It's too easy to get divorced.
/r/MGTOW14/02/20 08:09 PM
39

This. If a woman doesn't want to experiment with you, that's a signal to keep moving.
/r/MGTOW14/02/20 06:37 PM
10

Posts about stalker females.
/r/MGTOW14/02/20 06:28 PM
13

It's interesting about your parents, and others who had similar situations. The media shapes society in profound ways. I remember watching TV shows like Brady Bunch, Leave it to Beaver, Eight is Enough. They all emphasized family. The principal actors were older, as well. Even nighttime soaps like Dallas and Dynasty focused on intact families. Commercials. Everything pointed to marriage. After Friends came out, everything has now pointed to being young, single, and footloose. So it's impossible …
/r/MGTOW14/02/20 06:25 PM
2

Yup. All the guys they are letting smash on the DL throughout the year are nowhere to found on the one day that matters to women most. 😂😂😂
/r/MGTOW14/02/20 06:20 PM
1

Valentine's Day is THE day when a woman gets reminded of her TRUE SMV. The 3s and 4s who jerk guys around throughout the year see where they really stand when they have no offers for dates and no gifts coming in. Even the beta simps will use Valentine's Day to go on a suicide mission for an 8+. I mean, for a woman to initiate a date for VDay AND offer to pay...wow. As for knowing this stuff , I've always been purple pilled. I understand hypergamy and have known about it from the jump (grew up ar…
/r/MGTOW14/02/20 06:11 PM
2

Nope. She is desperate and has no other options. All the alphas she wants are busy chasing their dream girls. They will use Valentine's Day themselves to try to land that girl out of THEIR league. If a woman reaches out to you around Valentine's Day and wants to get together, it's your turn to do the rejecting. And then, to test where she really is, tell you can't today but can go out tomorrow. I bet you she doesn't take that offer. Women need TODAY. It's for validation purposes only!
/r/MGTOW14/02/20 05:51 PM
20

There are a lot of poor fellas with wives similar to this one. Wow just wow.
/r/MGTOW14/02/20 05:46 PM
47

Yep in the Western world marriage has become obsolete. Men and women don't need each other for anything other than sex and/or procreation. I'm just happy I got to at least live during the tail end of the "old days."
/r/MGTOW14/02/20 05:24 PM
3

Pin this!
/r/MGTOW12/02/20 05:03 PM
5

True. I was projecting with my generalization.
/r/MGTOW12/02/20 01:56 AM
12

I feel you! Same thing happened to me a week ago. It lets me know definitively that she sees me as a sucker and a simp. It also lets me know that she doesn't have any other simps in her orbit at the moment. I'm not going to be that guy. These women are expecting us to jump for joy hearing from them and hoping we take them out on a date for Valentine's Day. Remember, women love to be seen getting gifts and being taken out to dinner on Valentine's Day. They'll play the role that they still like yo…
/r/MGTOW11/02/20 10:35 PM
1

P.S., she was basically throwing you low-key signals that it might be cool for you to smash. When women talk openly about problems with a boyfriend or a husband, it's because they want you to know that her being in a committed relationship is not an obstacle. Kudos to you for avoiding that little trap.
/r/MGTOW11/02/20 10:25 PM
3

Yep. And once you add kids to the mix, you are finished.
/r/MGTOW11/02/20 10:23 PM
22

Therapy is golden. Not because of the professional who is helping you, but it also prevents you from showing weakness. No matter how much your friends and co-workers (and even family members) care about you, when you actually try to go to them for help, they will all scatter like cockroaches. Better to let it all go with a therapist, and keep your problems to yourself.
/r/MGTOW11/02/20 10:21 PM
15

This is also true. HPV can be transmitted despite a condom. In fact, condoms are only 70% sure against it. The benefit of a professional sex worker is that she would actively be doing her best to be safe, to protect herself as well. Normal women are out there feigning ignorance and infecting a lot of people by letting guys go raw.
/r/MGTOW11/02/20 04:21 PM
9

Facts.
/r/MGTOW11/02/20 04:19 PM
9

Women on dating apps see men the same way I see shows on Netflix: there are so many options that they begin to blur. If I finally settle on something to watch on Netflix, another distraction pops up (YouTube, Reddit, whatever). I'll stop watching that show to go and do something else. My attention span is mush these days because of it. So imagine women who are being hit up by who knows how many guys per day. How many guys with 6 packs? 8 packs? Huge dongs? Model looks? Once women have run throug…
/r/MGTOW11/02/20 12:07 AM
8

All the women I was really into just used me for some sex and validation, leaving once they found out I was a human, Women have huge double standards. They can cry to you and tell you all about how they see a therapist. But the moment YOU open up, you're done.
/r/MGTOW10/02/20 11:54 PM
9

Exactly.
/r/MGTOW10/02/20 11:11 PM
35

They don't have game. They just say whatever to inflate guys' egos, then shit test to tear the guys down after.
/r/MGTOW10/02/20 11:03 PM
19

That was because she couldn't get you and realized that you valued your time over her. Once she felt that you would keep stepping without her, she basically paid for your companionship.
/r/MGTOW10/02/20 03:34 PM
22

You beat me to it. She'll definitely respect the OP more for being about his business. She may even come back around and give him some play. But one thing is for sure...the simp ain't getting nothing. Except for more help requests.
/r/MGTOW09/02/20 11:44 PM
1

Omg, what a nightmare. I pray he has a job/career that is resistant to a criminal record. He sounds like a smart guy overall.
/r/MGTOW09/02/20 11:15 PM
3

Wow. Once a woman knows she has you it brings out the worst in her.
/r/MGTOW09/02/20 11:07 PM
3

Not while women are taught to be "free" when men are taught to be slaves.
/r/MGTOW09/02/20 08:42 PM
5

To make those kind of changes a serious life event has to happen. Birth of a child, family death, prison sentence, health issue, that kind of thing. This is true, but even these types of events hit men a lot harder than women. Most women can (and will) fall back on whatever sexuality they have remaining to get by (except in the case of a serious health issue).
/r/MGTOW09/02/20 08:30 PM
3

Yeah. There is no way I could do it. I would be homeless in my car before I ever embraced that type of situation. Pride, man.
/r/MGTOW09/02/20 08:26 PM
5

Before dating apps and social media, that probably was the case. Now, I think the older women get, the more entitled and narcissistic they become. Especially if they are living in a house that they divorced raped from ex hubby, and receiving child support and alimony. Dating apps give older women a huge advantage. Older women can target younger guys without people in the same social circles knowing what they were doing. In the past, an older woman looking to have some fun would have to go out to…
/r/MGTOW09/02/20 08:24 PM
3

Tragic just barely begins to scratch the surface of this. He's definitely a better man than I would be in a similar situation.
/r/MGTOW09/02/20 07:53 PM
20

The real scary part is that there is ALWAYS someone there to scrape them off the wall.
/r/MGTOW09/02/20 06:37 PM
3

YouTube Premium is worth it if you watch a lot of it on your mobile devices. I watch it through my TV.
/r/MGTOW09/02/20 02:48 PM
6

Babyface's "Soon as I get home" is the all-time R&B simp song.
/r/MGTOW09/02/20 02:45 PM
4

This guy is about to be wondering "where did everyone go"? Kudos to your dad for stepping up to give him a soft place to land, but I doubt that arrangement can last forever. If the dude gets convicted of DV, his access to gainful employment will all but vanish unless he has a trade he can apply. Hopefully, he can get his bearings and navigate the situation.
/r/MGTOW09/02/20 02:44 PM
10

This here. You're more likely to get an STD from a normal girl these days than a "working girl."
/r/MGTOW09/02/20 01:39 AM
1

He'll find his way here eventually. After a perplexing relationship last year, I first looked at ex-back sites, then dating coaches, which somehow led me to...the Red Pill.
/r/MGTOW09/02/20 01:36 AM
1

Find your passion in life. Once you do that, there is nothing else that can throw you off. The happiest men in life are those who follow their passions. When you enjoy going to work every day, you never work a day in your life. And waking up with a sense of purpose every day is incredibly powerful. When you are passionate about something, people will be drawn to YOU (this includes women).
/r/MGTOW09/02/20 01:28 AM
2

Part of the reason for your pain is your lack of social skills. You will always feel that you have to "hold on" to a woman (at least until you have another in the bag) because you don't socialize enough with people to come across potential mates.
/r/MGTOW09/02/20 01:26 AM
5

Once a woman is hot and wet, she's not turning the D away. I read somewhere that when a woman views a guy as attractive, she will throw all caution to the wind and view him as "clean." Stopping to put on a condom during a hookup, while obviously safe, takes away from the impulsivity of the event and brings and element of reality and awareness to the event. This could be a turnoff to a lot of women, which is why they generally go forward with sex once they are past that event horizon.
/r/MGTOW09/02/20 01:23 AM
2

Older women lean hard on their adult children for the emotional support cats can't provide. My ex (41) goes out clubbing with my son, no joke. I had 2 50-year FWBs last year and they both lean on their kids (25 yo+). One of the ladies lives with her two daughters and a bunch of cats. The other one lives with her daughter and cats. This way they can avoid being dependent on a man. And you'll always come after the adult kids. Any little problem they have and she'll use that to ignore you.
/r/MGTOW09/02/20 01:09 AM
30

you need a stable career, a circle of friends and good physical fitness This right here. A lot of guys perceived as "lucky" because they are able to get women tend to get derailed in life by the same women. Divorce, child support, energy vampirism, deferred dreams. By the time they hit their 40s, these guys find themselves suddenly unattractive to women because they are no longer "economically attractive." I am glad that young fellas today have access to a message that, quite frankly, I wish had…
/r/MGTOW08/02/20 03:02 PM
5

The only reason he hasn't been totally destroyed is because he is a megastar with legions of female fans. If he were less attractive and not so well known, who knows what allegations she would have levied against him by now.
/r/MGTOW07/02/20 03:35 AM
2

Ha ha good one. And, yeah that guy knows he's in for a wild ride. We've all been with crazy at least once. You know something ain't right, but the wild sex keeps you hooked. Kind of like a deer in the headlights.
/r/MGTOW06/02/20 03:37 AM
2

They can be quite shameless when they see something they want, and society sees no wrong with it! Congrats to you for the big turnaround in your life.
/r/MGTOW06/02/20 03:34 AM
2

Wow. I guess they'll do anything when desperate. The funny thing is they can beg, plead, cry, offer anal, you name it and society sees no wrong. It's part of their nature. But if a man so much a sheds a tear...
/r/MGTOW06/02/20 03:30 AM
8

Scary stuff tbh. At least you dodged that bullet.
/r/MGTOW05/02/20 04:53 PM
15

Daaaayyyyyyuuuuummmmnnnn. Feel sorry for that dude. He'll probably be on this sub soon.
/r/MGTOW05/02/20 04:43 PM
16

This is exactly what I am going to do. The funny thing is, before learning about the Red Pill and MGTOW, I really wouldn't have thought much of it and responded. But after reading about how much the modern woman needs attention and validation, I'm definitely not going to contribute to their delinquency!
/r/MGTOW05/02/20 03:57 PM
10

I was going to say that you taught her a lesson, but you just drove her underground. She'll be back and she is going to give the next simp hell. But good for you for playing the situation well. Women hate "losing" to guys, especially because they know the game is fully in their favor these days.
/r/MGTOW05/02/20 03:52 PM
11

Definitely. Hence my warning. Guys are going to start getting all kinds of attention from women that have shown 0 interest in them all of a sudden. They know which guys are the ones who will be happy to take them out or buy them something on Valentine's Day and the ones who won't. My advice: if you must date, wait until AFTER Valentine's Day!
/r/MGTOW05/02/20 03:50 PM
21

Yep, the advantage is fully in their court. But once you know that you are part of the rotation, you bail and never look back. I'm definitely not going to respond. But her timing is pretty curious... Interestingly enough, my hot and cold relationship with this woman is what led me to the Red Pill in the first place. Now, I realize that responding and going through her hoops again would be a colossal waste of energy.
/r/MGTOW05/02/20 03:40 PM
44

Yep. And if you feel the need to get involved with a woman, definitely steer clear of the types who constantly need to be having fun.
/r/MGTOW05/02/20 03:27 PM
37

It seems like a lot of women like to go back and forth between 2-3 guys that are "boyfriend material" while doing who knows what in between.
/r/MGTOW05/02/20 03:22 PM
5

Wow, that is a hell of an image! Perfect description.
/r/MGTOW05/02/20 03:06 PM
3

Definitely true. Imagine how many married guys would love to go their own way, but simply can't afford the divorce. Especially if they have no safety net and run the risk of being homeless.
/r/MGTOW05/02/20 02:03 PM
23

Imagine the outrage if the article were written by a man, titled "Why I left my overweight wife."
/r/MGTOW04/02/20 04:12 PM
18

I wouldn't give too much credit to the feminists, per se. I think it's more that the men at the top of society who control the laws, economy, etc. aren't threatened by feminism in their daily lives and business. They control resources, and therefore women (and other men for that matter). An aspiring actress can be a rabid feminist, but in the end, she is going to have to go through men to get to the top. And at the top, there will still be a man in control. In other words, it's the men who contr…
/r/MGTOW04/02/20 03:13 PM
7

Success is like a house. After it's built, you have to work diligently to maintain it.
/r/MGTOW04/02/20 03:10 PM
2

Ha ha very true. The same way a sugar baby criticizes a "creepy" guy for paying for sex.
/r/MGTOW04/02/20 03:03 PM
6

The alternative is to move to countries where his social status is valued highly such as South America or East Asia. There, just by virtue of being a western man and carrying a western passport, his social status ranks highly above that of the locals. Having lived in Mexico for 14 years before returning to the States in 2018, I can speak on this. It is true, your status is elevated because of the prestige of your home country. However, feminazism has hit Mexico hard. Younger women in the big cit…
/r/MGTOW04/02/20 02:27 PM
1

I think a lot of younger fellows who have come of age in recent years are hip to the new reality. But that doesn't mean they won't resort to pudding worship for the right (wrong?) woman.
/r/MGTOW02/02/20 07:44 PM
2

Definitely.
/r/MGTOW02/02/20 07:41 PM
2

Speaking of Rome, even Augustus Caesar himself had to deal with a whoring daughter. In the end, he ended up banishing her @$$.
/r/MGTOW02/02/20 05:08 PM
5

The scary part is that the second woman didn't admonish the first woman out of morality, but out of jealousy. In a work situation, you can be totally invisible to women. But as soon as one coworker takes a romantic interest in you, the floodgates open and all the others suddenly become interested in you.
/r/MGTOW02/02/20 05:02 PM
4

No, the danger is the middle guys walking away... the ones women put on the backburner while they ride the carousel. If they choose to walk away and not share their resources with women, it's game over for AFBB. I agree with this in theory, but I don't think it will ever really happen. For every middle guy that walks away from the game, there are two new (and younger) ones there to replace him. With dating apps, women can bypass men in real life and literally "shop" for the ones they want online…
/r/MGTOW02/02/20 04:54 PM
2

If your gf is a modern woman, you need to be worried whether she answers with one word or four paragraphs...
/r/MGTOW02/02/20 04:47 PM
4

Yep. I listen to him every day. He's been put through the ringer and even ended up homeless for a while after leaving his wife. Plus, he works as a personal trainer and sees women at their worst on a daily basis.
/r/MGTOW02/02/20 04:45 PM
1

In my case, I worry more about what happens if I find myself in a situation where I can't take care of myself anymore in old age. Luckily, I have two kids from two previous marriages. My daughter, however, is more likely to be there for me if I ever become unable to care for myself.
/r/MGTOW02/02/20 04:43 PM
1

Gonna do it and listen to it again.
/r/MGTOW02/02/20 04:42 PM
1

I forgot to mention I read that one, too, right before Manipulated Man. Both books are a little dated, but are by far the best of the bunch.
/r/MGTOW02/02/20 04:40 PM
44

I read all three just recently. "Rational Male" needs to be heavily edited and reformatted, but the information is solid. AFP was kind of boring, but the premise that women are in control of men from childhood makes perfect sense. If you were raised by a single mother, then you really feel the effects of what he's talking about. "Manipulated Man" was by far the best. It confirmed (from the female perspective) what I have suspected all along: that women see sex more as a tool or a means to an end…
/r/MGTOW01/02/20 03:16 PM
10

Bezos has the distinction of being the top man in two categories: wealth and stupidity.
/r/MGTOW25/01/20 01:26 AM
9

She's his problem, now! When she divorces him and grabs the bag (3 kids+alimony=💵💵💵), he'll be rueing the day he met her.
/r/MGTOW19/01/20 02:28 PM
2

☝️☝️☝️☝️
/r/MGTOW19/01/20 02:10 PM
3

She knows there is a wall. She also knows there are unlimited simps out there as well.
/r/MGTOW18/01/20 11:15 PM
5

They don't care if the men only want casual sex. They care about the attention.
/r/MGTOW18/01/20 03:26 PM
6

Men are expendable. Overweight men are basically invisible unless they have some type of status and money/power. Even then it's shitty because they know the women are after something. I know this because I started gaining a lot of weight in my early twenties, along with balding. The attention I got from women my own age vanished with the pounds and lost hair follicles. Luckily, older women were there to help me get through it!
/r/MGTOW17/01/20 02:19 PM
17

This is real.
/r/MGTOW16/01/20 04:33 PM
3

Lol good one
/r/MGTOW15/01/20 11:00 PM
6

Imagine getting preyed on by both women and the geeks who made and are profiting from the app... NO THANK YOU.
/r/MGTOW15/01/20 10:49 PM
7

I think that women settling down is a thing of the past in the age of dating apps. In the past, they could fantasize all day but stick to their routine. Now, they can meet lookalikes of their favorite celebs and go and visit these guys, and nobody will ever know what she is doing. Not even her best buddies. And yes, I definitely feel for dudes who have been overlooked. On the one hand, I think, they aren't missing anything. I've been married twice with a child from each marriage and I wholeheart…
/r/MGTOW15/01/20 10:44 PM
2

Yup, because of compulsory testing. But HPV can be spread regardless of condom usage.
/r/MGTOW15/01/20 10:36 PM
13

The way your ex saw it, the makeup sex was a way to keep you on the hook a little longer. An investment, to get more out of you, which she did.
/r/MGTOW15/01/20 10:20 PM
10

Lol these days you are better paying $250 for an hour of guaranteed sex than going out on 2 dates for the same amount, only to be met with, "I'd like to get to know you better. Let's go out again next week. " And you have the same chance of getting an STD (even if you wrap up), so might as well spend the money on the sure thing.
/r/MGTOW15/01/20 10:14 PM
35

Fake titties. That's why her hubby didn't want her.
/r/MGTOW15/01/20 10:05 PM
45

The fact that Phoenix won't even deign to acknowledge Wendy Williams at all is enough. 100 years from now, people will know Joaquin Phoenix and his work. Wendy Williams will be forgotten, no matter how much she tries to push the envelope.
/r/MGTOW15/01/20 10:04 PM
41

Yep. If she wants you sexually, you'll be in the bed before you know it. You know how it is when she is constantly flaking because such and such came up, or she wants to wait, or blah blah blah? When she wants you it's the opposite. All her appointments get canceled, friends get put on hold, phone is nowhere to be seen, and your suggestion of going out to eat is countered with "I'm tired can we just chill, watch a movie, and smoke/drink"
/r/MGTOW15/01/20 08:59 PM
121

Remember, if she likes you, she'll take YOU out.
/r/MGTOW15/01/20 02:30 PM
1

This has made it really hard for guys who are used to IRL. I'm glad I'm on sabbatical this year while I get hipped to the red pill.
/r/MGTOW15/01/20 02:28 PM
2

I'm sure Pierce has seen a lot of hypergamy and other stuff in the industry and is grateful he landed a unicorn.
/r/MGTOW15/01/20 02:26 PM
4

Did she try to get you back in the beginning of the separation?
/r/MGTOW15/01/20 04:40 AM
1

A lot of high value men walking around with STDs.
/r/MGTOW15/01/20 04:27 AM
7

^
/r/MGTOW14/01/20 11:12 PM
7

Yep. Poor Liam would be none the wiser.
/r/MGTOW14/01/20 03:51 PM
15

The funny thing is if you don't ask about it, they'll start bringing it up on their own. I guess you just can't win.
/r/MGTOW14/01/20 03:24 PM
60

For guys who never ever get female attention, when you finally get it, it can be overwhelming, I imagine. There is no way they would be able to resist a pretty girl who is only using them for something.
/r/MGTOW14/01/20 03:09 PM
41

20 years and 50 pounds later: Liam and I finally did it! We finally got married!
/r/MGTOW14/01/20 03:07 PM
2

You bring up an important aspect of today's world: the modern, working woman does not really want a relationship. She can get that stuff from friends and pets now. She only needs sex. Once more guys accept this new reality and adjust to it, the simping and worship will die down.
/r/MGTOW14/01/20 02:19 PM
2

Mexico 🇲🇽 had been hit pretty hard. The Mexican guys I know used to go to rural areas to find their wives and bring them back to the USA. Now that's not even an option.
/r/MGTOW14/01/20 03:31 AM
8

This is correct. If you can live in her home culture, where she can be shamed by her family and society, that's the way to go. But Americanism is spreading to other places faster than a California wildfire.
/r/MGTOW13/01/20 11:19 PM
2

I've seen that plenty as well. Before dating apps, she would have picked someone. But now they think they have forever and will eventually hit the jackpot. Not a bad position to be in, I suppose.
/r/MGTOW13/01/20 04:08 PM
1

They do it for attention and also to bed the alphas when the opportunity presents itself.
/r/MGTOW13/01/20 03:15 PM
1

This here. Deny them your validation at all costs. They smile at you, you turn your head away like you didn't even notice.
/r/MGTOW13/01/20 03:13 PM
1

Even after she hits the wall, there will still be tons of desperate guys who would see her as a catch and wife her up. Especially since she still has no children.
/r/MGTOW13/01/20 03:10 PM
1

Women don't need to look at any man in real life anymore. If you think about it, it actually suits them better to meet men from dating apps who live a few hours away (or even in other states). That way they can preserve their image of a good girl when they actually do want to settle down. Meeting a man in real life (at work, gym) carries the consequence of the that image being shattered. So if she does go with a guy IRL, he would definitely have to be something special.
/r/MGTOW13/01/20 02:31 PM
4

Ha ha I wish I were he. But, I can spot trends too. Think about it : if you could meet guys on apps privately, who lived a safe distance away, and your girlfriends and family members would never know... What would you do?
/r/MGTOW13/01/20 12:56 PM
36

This is why you see women more and more going with dating apps and less real life. Nobody will ever know that she drives 10 hours round trips every other weekend to visit Chads and Tyrones.
/r/MGTOW13/01/20 01:48 AM
1

Everyone, starting with mom.
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 12:13 PM
12

I hate that word "adulting."
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 12:11 PM
2

Ha ha, funny but all too true. They are getting dick pics sent daily. Even having a big D can't save you in this day and age. In the past, it was a golden ticket, but now she has easy access to others on the Internet.
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 12:10 PM
36

^
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 01:12 AM
1

No celebration here. Just pointing out what women will put up with.
/r/MGTOW10/01/20 02:30 PM
2

That's how you got to be if you decide to deal with women, that's for sure.
/r/MGTOW10/01/20 01:41 AM
5

This hubby is giving her chaos on demand, lol.
/r/MGTOW10/01/20 01:06 AM
5

That's crazy. If I had a son of military age I would definitely tell him to not have any attachments going into service.
/r/MGTOW09/01/20 04:18 PM
1

It also pisses women off when they know they wouldn't "qualify" to be the woman for a man who has status, looks, and power. They hate that feeling of being excluded, yet they are the first to demand a man be over 6 feet before even letting him get a wiff.
/r/MGTOW08/01/20 04:33 PM
22

I guess that's life in the top 1% of wealth and looks. No hate here. Good for him.
/r/MGTOW08/01/20 02:25 AM
9

Proof that women would rather have a "fixer upper" than a "totally reliable" new ride.
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 02:10 AM
2

Good on your part avoiding giving her the attention she wanted after the breakup.
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 01:54 AM
3

I learned recently too, after 13 years out of dating. I didn't even think that women 40+ were using dating apps. When a 50 year old FWB told me about her exploits in Tinder, I realized I needed to step back and learn about today's world.
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 12:20 AM
26

You should have just walked away when she asked you, without saying a word.
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 06:00 PM
2

Yep, Latin America used to be a nice refuge. Now it's been ruined as well. Even in the rural "rancho" areas.
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 05:34 PM
10

Or just naive. Either way, he learned his lesson.
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 05:21 PM
1

Now she can take her newfound health and keep doing the guy she really wants. What a fool this dude was.
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 03:59 PM
1

Wow
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 03:57 PM
11

Just picture her doing the exact same thing with 5 other guys. Imagine the petri dish she's got going in there. Still intrigued?
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 02:37 PM
61

Even if they don't actually have a backup, they can start finding new suitors instantly.
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 02:24 PM
3

This is true. She always wonders about the one fella who doesn't worship her.
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 02:14 PM
1

And the family court system will be firmly in their corner when it's time for child support and/or divorce.
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 02:02 PM
21

And husbands don't get boyfriend privileges.
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 01:53 PM
18

This here.
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 01:52 PM
6

True, just don't try to bring one to the US. Once they arrive, especially away from the family back home, the temptation will get them within a few years.
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 01:48 PM
2

For a lonely multi - millionaire, it's like the cost of Netflix to me. Probably a great deal. But with the STDs she's unknowingly carrying, I'd take a hard pass.
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 01:47 PM
4

It's hit Mexico, too.
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 01:45 PM
1

There are a lot of instincts we have to suppress when dealing with women these days. One is the instinct to protect a "vulnerable" woman and save her from danger, especially if it can lead to a relationship with her. This is an instinct that can quickly lead us to financial ruin or get us killed. Before social media and dating apps, there were successful stories like this all the time. But those days are over now that the meat market is at her fingertips. It's just not worth it to try to help wo…
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 01:41 PM
2

You are smarter than I was!
/r/MGTOW04/01/20 09:10 PM
6

Just give them the "It's not you, it's me" spiel. Never fails and leaves the door open for more down the road if you need it.
/r/MGTOW04/01/20 08:08 PM
21

The same military spouse is probably cheating on her husband while he serves his country and puts food on her table.
/r/MGTOW04/01/20 07:41 PM
3

This is why you have to always maintain your financial independence and ability to walk away. If she gets you in a situation where you are stuck (marriage with children), you are a dead duck.
/r/MGTOW04/01/20 03:58 PM
3

Pre-social media, you were most likely enough. Maybe she had had one love before you, but that was pretty much it. There were plenty of women then that didn't like clubs and bars, so it was easy to find a decent woman to get hitched to. When they said they had had enough of the games, in those days they pretty much meant it. Now, the meat market is at their fingertips. Women don't have to be seen at bars and clubs getting picked up. They don't have to leave the comfort of their own home. She can…
/r/MGTOW04/01/20 03:43 PM
5

Before getting hip to the red pill, I used to find it amusing how easy it was to bop someone else's girl. But now I realize that I was not only being unethical, but also contributing to female delinquency. Every time you mess around with a committed or married woman, you are contributing to her over-inflated ego and giving her undeserved validation, which she feeds off of voraciously. No more.
/r/MGTOW04/01/20 03:31 PM
1

Just the "Daredevil" personality tells you all you need to know.
/r/MGTOW04/01/20 02:58 PM
3

Marc ain't no fool. He's got a great job and knows he can do better. Maybe his next woman will do a better job of concealing her past, but no way any self respecting man with a future ahead of him would settle for that once he knows the truth.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/01/20 10:32 PM
15

I don't know if she's happier than ever. She knows she is possibly making a huge mistake. Anyone that breaks up with someone who loves them and after a significant amount of time is never 100% sure the decision is correct. For these types of people who monkey branch, they need to make sure that the next person validates the decision to leave you in the first place. Riding the CC may not be all that it is cracked up to be, what with all the STDs out there. But what it does is give her a distracti…
/r/MGTOW01/01/20 08:11 PM
319

Remember, women think they are giving you a gift or doing you a favor if they have sex with you. When you reject their offer, they know they have absolutely nothing else to offer. That pisses them off, and makes them feel unattractive. It speaks well about you that you apparently have beaten the need to get the first vag that comes your way.
/r/MGTOW01/01/20 07:09 PM
2

There is really no age. It all depends on the man. I was reading how the creator of Wendover Productions (YouTube) is only 22 years old. He's still in college and manages 3 major channels. I'd say he has his shit together. The main idea is to be always working on getting your shit together. If you got it together, then focus your energy on keeping it together.
/r/MGTOW31/12/19 02:55 PM
1

My preferences have changed over time, but my general type is "thick" (voluptuous, buxom). Definitely don't mind chubby as long as she is not obese. Lately I've been really into eyes and eye shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 04:33 PM
3

1880s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 02:46 AM
2

I think that whenever I am not looking that is when I am most likely to find someone. Maybe because we give off more positive energy when we are forcing it looking for someone. In the case of getting the spiel, I generally take it as a polite rejection and move on. I believe people will jump at the chance to have someone in their lives who "checks all their boxes."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 02:21 AM
5

The funny thing is, it seems that people are the most into you when your personal life seems fucked! I've been going through this recently, so I can relate to what you are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 02:12 AM
6

Yeah, you make some good points. In the end, I will never be able to understand what women go through. I got my own problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 02:06 AM
2

Wow so many new terms to learn. "smokeshow"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 01:46 AM
2

In the past, it was the other way around, IMO. When I was younger it seemed like girls felt oral was being "submissive" while PIV was just kind of expected by both parties. So imagine my surprise when I get a bj these days, she swallows, and I think its a huge deal. Only to find out that it's not anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 01:03 AM
13

A lot of women with similar issues find themselves in a similar place. Their sex drive is lower, however, so they aren't bothered by the lack of attention. Also, they aren't pressured to get laid (biologically or societally).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 12:57 AM
-1

If it were to become the exact female analog of myself, hell no. I'd prefer to be painfully average without menstruation, the threat of getting raped, being at risk for more cancers, accidental pregnancies, double discrimination (minority female), etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:32 PM
1

You can argue that most women don't need to settle anymore as they are able to work and provide for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 11:54 PM
2

Low value women are always swooped on by above average guys when those guys on are dry streaks. My point is that since women almost always date up, they get jerked around a lot by "higher value" guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 02:42 PM
10

Women have the advantage if they are considering someone at the same attractiveness or less. If they are chasing up, then they are essentially in the same situation as a man chasing. They are subject to being used for money, sex, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 02:22 PM
1

Multiply X 1000 if the white guy is traveling in Latin America or Asia. Probably large parts of Africa as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 01:12 AM
1

Generally the leaders and toughest of both groups would be alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 03:27 PM
4

Men still control the world. It's just that in Western societies, only a few powerful and wealthy men exert control. They still control access to power at the highest echelons of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:41 PM
1

In older,traditional societies they do have harems (Arab societies, for example). Only in Western societies do they have to pay lip service to religious customs and appear monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:37 PM
1

If you could get as much as you wanted, whenever, then you would want less as well. It's like craving Olive Garden because the nearest one is like 2 hours away and you love Italian. You'll take the opportunity to go whenever possible. But if you work at the same Olive Garden,and that's all you can eat during your shift, then it would get old fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:27 PM
67

Maybe because years ago it wasn't as looked down upon for men to chase, and now it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:10 AM
2

It's more about being available at the right time, more than anything. If you are never available to the point of ignoring, then obviously she will lose interest and move on. If you are too available, she will get bored quickly and move on. You have to find that golden mean, and every woman will be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 12:46 AM
4

It doesn't bother me in the least. I know why women have options: they have what men want, plain and simple. Knowing how the game works, I skew it in my favor. Instead of lamenting how attractive women are chasing guys who are 8-10. I don't waste time chasing women who have no interest in me. Instead I deal with women who find me to be a "10." Each person's pyramid is relative and differs in circumstances. Find your niche (your "personal pyramid") and work from there. You'll be a lot happier wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 12:36 AM
2

You are the one putting these characterizations out there. I simply said Botham Jean's family would disagree with you about the "rewards of being a victim." You then went off on a tangent, venting about things in society that had nothing to do with the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 12:11 AM
2

Botham Jean's family would definitely disagree with your characterization of "reward."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 11:47 PM
1

This here. In the end, fat women also have what men are lusting for. If you go to a club and there are 10 guys and 2 women (1 considered ugly and 1 overweight) left at closing time, guess what? Those two ladies just became 10s. As such, they will go from chasing (the guys that were there earlier and got picked up) to being chased. They will determine who gets laid if it happens at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 02:43 PM
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