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You sound very young.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 11:53 PM
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Can you not accept the vast majority of what she said was more perfect and eloquent and persuasive than anything you have or ever will write, without shitting your panties over one fucking word? You're pathetic.
/r/MensRights22/03/15 03:13 PM
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Dude, if you are concerned about paternity fraud, just tell your prospective wife/gf that you want a paternity test to quell your anxieties. If you want, you can dress it up as the male version of a positive pregnancy test, and tell them how excited you are, and how much it would mean to you to have the test in the same way that a woman might feel, and that it would make the whole pregnancy feel 'real'. A lot of women seem to eat that shit up. If you are smart, you won't ruffle any feathers that…
/r/MensRights21/03/15 06:58 PM
2

But hated and ineffective seems to be where we are at.
/r/MensRights16/03/15 01:05 AM
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who got us to where we are. Which is... universally derided and hated?
/r/MensRights16/03/15 01:05 AM
0

But who do we want to be? Warren Farrell or Paul Elam?
/r/MensRights15/03/15 02:24 AM
1

There is being angry, and there is being a butthurt bitch. I see a lot of the second around here, and it saddens me. We shouldn't cling to anger and victimhood. A lot of people find that a comfortable thing to do - like women happily parroting the 77cent statistic like it somehow fulfills them. It's an awful, negative, bitch ass thing to do.
/r/MensRights15/03/15 02:17 AM
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Despite its name, it's actually not benevolent to women at all. Benevolent sexism is the other side of the coin of overt, obviously negative sexism. When you treat women preferentially, you internally justify it by adopting a sexist paradigm. E.g. classing women as weaker or inferior, in the same way you classify old people and children, or classing them as holy and pure, etc. It's absolutely logically inescapable.
/r/MensRights19/02/15 11:48 PM
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Chivalry comes from the exact same place as misogyny, and can never come from somewhere else. Anyone who considers themselves a feminist but is in favor of benevolent sexism is ignorant or a hypocrite.
/r/MensRights19/02/15 02:58 PM
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Even if you think what she did was so terribly wrong, can't you at least afford her the consideration of being young, out of her comfort zone, alone, miserable, meek, and scared, rather than making this a gender thing? I could see the same situation happening with a young guy and an older woman, or both of the same gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 11:02 PM
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Men's issues are ignored because feminists are screaming them down Again, neither of these videos was taking anything away from men. There was no screaming down men's issues in these two videos. There was no mention of men at all. Yes, there are lots of women who do that in other places, but you have to be calm and sane enough to realise that these videos are not doing that at all. 75% suicide rate, low education performance, longer prison sentences for same crime, increased likelihood to end up…
/r/MensRights04/02/15 09:54 PM
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The original likeagirl video was fine, insightful, helpful for women. The dove commercial about unrealistic body image issues and photoshop was also fine. That one was even good for men as well, because these are issues that men are now also having to deal with more and more. Why are people getting butthurt over them? These two videos took nothing away from men.
/r/MensRights04/02/15 06:15 PM
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I wish they had interviewed Warren Farrell instead.
/r/MensRights04/02/15 10:22 AM
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If you love everyone, then your love is worthless. Women (and men) actually prefer to be liked or treated well by people who are not nice to others. Call it the Simon Cowell effect. If Randy or some other judge who is nice to everyone says nice things about you, then that's ok. But if Simon who is callous and brutal to other people is nice to you, then the exclusivity of that kindness makes it feel more valued and makes you feel more valuable. I think 'nice guys' need to learn to restrain their …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 06:30 PM
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Not yet. This story seems to be about police guidelines. Basically, if she charges you with rape, now instead of saying "aha, but she didn't say no!" you have to say "she gave verbal or nonverbal consent". Nonverbal consent is still legally acceptable.
/r/MensRights30/01/15 05:53 PM
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I'd say most artists would also disagree. Men are more interesting to draw. Muscle makes for angles and lines that are more impressive than the curves of fat. Even something as common as an average male tricep is way more interesting than boobs or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 12:49 AM
1

What liberty have we traded? The right to own guns? That's the only one I can think of.
/r/MensRights29/01/15 11:45 PM
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Can't hear you over my universal healthcare, paid sick days, paid vacation, paid maternity and paternity leave, vastly lower incarceration, and the deafening sound of people not being shot by police.
/r/MensRights29/01/15 03:00 PM
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It's not a good comparison logically. It's not even a good comparison politically. Sarkeesian's tweet was something that should be debated sensibly. You can have a discussion about it, and I even think you could bring her to a more nuance position by arguing that a) women do have considerable power, more today than ever before b) these days institutions have power rather than classes or genders and c) even if men were the only ones in power, it is possible for there still to be sexism against me…
/r/MensRights25/01/15 10:31 PM
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This is so dumb. Get a grip.
/r/MensRights25/01/15 09:23 PM
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Desperate for both sides to see eye to eye, perhaps. This satirical strawman technique is used by both sides, and in politics as well, and it only drives everyone further apart while nothing gets fixed. I hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 01:13 PM
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I understood that, and I love satire, but this is really terribly done.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 11:26 AM
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This post that demeans everyone. Work out your issues directly, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 06:07 PM
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I vote we ignore this nonsense. It's enough of a self parody that I think if we take it seriously it just demeans us.
/r/MensRights12/01/15 01:21 AM
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I agree that you should have the freedom and privacy to speak to people about it in private without them being forced to report it, but only so long as formal action is not taken by the campus as a result. If the campus gets involved and the question of determining guilt arises, then it has to be a police, criminal matter, and you would not have the right to anonymity just like with any other crime.
/r/MensRights08/01/15 07:13 AM
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Bear in mind you should still need to prove malicious intent. We couldn't prove he raped you =/= you are making a false accusation.
/r/MensRights08/01/15 07:08 AM
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I think probably the majority of people watch reality shows because they are examples of wildness and craziness. They watch it for the trainwreck entertainment value, especially these days. So you can't judge how much people agree with it based on its ratings. Well either chivalry needs to die or there needs to be an equal counterbalance in the other direction, because as it stands it is really only fueling misogyny and misandry. I like the idea of chivalry but I hate the idea of trapping anyone…
/r/MensRights05/01/15 03:18 AM
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Well I'm glad we figured each other out. I don't think the popularity of a reality show can really be taken to mean a lot, but I definitely agree that schools need to be accepting of the bahaviours you describe. Certainly that is an important issue. Chivalry is bad because when it is taught to children (and adults), they inevitably rationalise it into sexist beliefs. It's impossible not to. Imagine we traveled to another planet and saw a race of aliens, half of them blue and half of them red. If…
/r/MensRights03/01/15 08:27 AM
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Apparently not so much. Although I do think confrontation brought this clarity.
/r/MensRights02/01/15 10:35 PM
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When I talked about boys and girls I specifically said "in a boy's heart" and "in a girl's heart". At no point did I EVER say that "in the hearts of ALL boys" or "in the hearts of ALL girls" If we can come to an understanding, I am keen to do so. Particularly with that phrase and these: That girls can do anything boys can do and vice versa... I have an issue with that. Unfortunately today, boys are told that they need to be rescued from towers too sometimes and that girls should put on their arm…
/r/MensRights02/01/15 10:32 PM
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Traditional gender roles aren't the problem. It's when people enforce them. I don't get the feeling she's particularly open to anything outside of tradition for anyone. She doesn't simply state her own preference, which would be fine, she's making sweeping declarations about what all girls and boys want. She is enforcing gender roles. I think we should err on the side of clarity rather than the side of politeness, else she'll never realise the mistakes she's making in thinking she's 'on our side…
/r/MensRights02/01/15 04:13 PM
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Well, if everyone is honest about what they want, I think things work out for everyone. The guy can go off and try to fuck other women and the woman can stop wasting her time with a guy who doesn't want to be her friend. That's better than either side trying to be or pretending to be something they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 03:39 PM
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I think you're right, but I have found just talking about some problems that can't be solved can actually really help even if there is no good advice to be had, for example just talking about the loss of someone close to you. Although, I would still prefer there was good advice to receive in these situations. I think men and women could both benefit from moving towards each other in this behaviour, although I do think men would benefit from more moving.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 03:36 PM
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Men tend to need emotional availability quite rarely, and he seems to be talking about women who need it all the time. Something he'd be willing to do for a girl he was dating but not for a casual friend. I think it's only expected that you would reserve your most generous and caring side exclusively for your gf. This guy seems to be giving them the royal, girlfriend level treatment at first to entice them and it seems to be causing misunderstandings. I don't blame anyone really.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 03:29 PM
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I think if you are respectful it's definitely ok to withdraw somewhat from people who don't reciprocate. You will definitely be happier making decisions that benefit you sometimes rather than being 'nice' all the time. It kind of sucks, but rationing out your kindness is healthier than spewing it at everyone without restraint. I think the manner in which you do it can be tasteful or offensive and is important. How you come across likely depends on whether you see that woman as worthy or respect …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 03:17 PM
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I have you tagged as a good guy among those who post here. We're all being a bit too kind to her, don't you think? She is polite, but it sounds like her position on gender roles is truly awful, and she doesn't sound like she's terribly open minded... In a girl's heart she wants to be beautiful. She wants to be cherished and she wants her knight to come along. Unfortunately today, boys are told that they need to be rescued from towers too sometimes and that girls should put on their armor and go …
/r/MensRights02/01/15 12:18 PM
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In a girl's heart she wants to be beautiful. She wants to be cherished and she wants her knight to come along. Unfortunately today, boys are told that they need to be rescued from towers too sometimes and that girls should put on their armor and go fight for their man. It's disturbing! Lady, you are the one who is disturbing. And also in the wrong place. The men's rights movement doesn't stand for imposing traditional gender roles on boys or girls. To other posters here, I want to say I don't al…
/r/MensRights02/01/15 12:16 PM
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As a feminist and MRA, /r/Feminism and /r/AskFeminists really are shit. Echo chamber central. It is a problem with the mods, though, they are a few shitbags who work to keep it that way. You might (fairly) call it representative of a problem in feminism in general, but it is not all of us, just the people in charge of one subreddit on the internet. Most of the time I post here is to try to move the sub towards equality when it gets ridiculous (people saying ridiculous shit like 'feminists want p…
/r/MensRights23/12/14 10:52 PM
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Intended infection should still be prosecuted. But when it comes to sex the mentality should be caveat emptor. You have no right to know the other person's sexual, personal or medical history. If you're talking about the lesser of two evils, then which is worse: lowered testing rates leading to our inability to fight the spread of the disease, or not prosecuting a very small handful of cases.
/r/MensRights19/12/14 10:37 PM
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It is about medicine. You can't fight disease with laws. You are blinded by fear. Take a step back and realise it.
/r/MensRights19/12/14 12:41 PM
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That still should not be a crime. Unless there was an intent to infect, or in the rare exceptional case of someone cheating on a partner and then not telling them they got HIV, there should not be a burden of disclosure on any party. Sex is an unsafe activity, you can't expect people to know their own status. People should be using condoms, and accepting the health risk they take when they have sex. Enforcing disclosure is not a good way to reduce infection, because of the inevitable drop in tes…
/r/MensRights19/12/14 12:34 PM
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This kind of prosecution is driven by fear and a lack of education. No one who works in medicine would condone it. The general public has not been educated on this issue and is reacting emotionally, as they often do when it comes to scary things like deadly diseases. It's not so different from people in West Africa who know nothing about ebola, stealing from hospitals and the like. Remember just recently there was a scare in the US where people wanted to blockade direct flights from Africa, whic…
/r/MensRights19/12/14 09:48 AM
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If they legitimately don't know their own status, they can't have a duty to inform other people, and they can't be prosecuted. This precedent rewards people for being more reckless, not less. Here's a few sources. UNAIDS Conflicting Messages: How Criminal HIV Disclosure Laws Undermine Public Health Efforts to Control the Spread of HIV Nondisclosure Prosecutions and HIV Prevention: Results From an Ottawa-Based Gay Men’s Sex Survey That last one shows that nondisclosure prosecutions made 13.8% peo…
/r/MensRights19/12/14 09:26 AM
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Just so you know, the position of the global medical community is that you should not be prosecuted for not revealing your STD status, and for good reason. When you prosecute people for this, you are incentivising people to not get tested for STDs. It is absolutley paramount that people are tested, because with treatment you can not only increase the lifespan on the infected individual, but reduce the viral load to vastly reduce the chance of transmission. Without testing, there can be no treatm…
/r/MensRights19/12/14 04:29 AM
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You can absolutely have great relationships starting at 28. Honestly, I think you need to be in your 20s to have the maturity to learn anything about relationships, and once you have that maturity you can learn pretty much everything in a few years. Most of what I learned is what I want from a relationship (self discovery) and a repertoire of cutesy and not so cutesy stuff to keep her happy. Especially if you are aware of the need to learn, and are on the trajectory you have set yourself on. Als…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 10:02 AM
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You can't afford to care. Care about what people might think and let it hold you back OR have a chance to be happy and fulfilled. You've already made the choice by making an effort and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 09:50 AM
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See, even you are being downvoted for that incredibly mild and reasonable position. I'm getting downvoted to shit. This is what upsets me. Can't everyone agree that no one deserves death threats for stupid internet shit?
/r/MensRights11/12/14 12:10 AM
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Yeah I didn't want to go into this topic but I can't just let it slide when people justify death threats. Again, I started off by saying I have no love for these people, but wtf guys can't we just be human about this? On your theory: I think Sarkeesian probably took the negative attention and death threats as a vindicating sign that she was actually going in the right direction and stirring things up in the gaming community. I don't think that's necessarily wrong: if I was doing a set of youtube…
/r/MensRights11/12/14 12:02 AM
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I actually posted somewhere else in this thread that I refused to commit such a fallacy. And I never said they weren't feminists or whatever they called themselves, I just said they were douchenozzles who undermine equality.
/r/MensRights10/12/14 11:48 PM
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Yeah I totally hate gamers
/r/MensRights10/12/14 11:43 PM
3

There are probably some more blue pill seduction communities out there. That would be close?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 08:13 AM
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Look, you're all putting me in the position of having to defend them simply because I have some common sense. The majority of their claims of threats are most likely forged You have no basis to claim that. That's called talking out of your ass. And even after you talk out of your ass, you accept that some of the threats were genuine. So why bother talking out of your ass and looking like a clown in the first place? And the others are groundless No basis again. Out of your ass again. I know how t…
/r/MensRights10/12/14 08:01 AM
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Yeah, a lot of threats are baseless and yeah the internet is dumb. That doesn't mean you can just tell people to ignore them or not be affected. A death threat is still a death threat. And these women didn't have a chance to acclimate to the attention. And on top of that there is a difference when it is a woman being attacked by lots of men because of her views on sexism or her sexual history. Don't be a dick and say there isn't. All I'm saying is that I have some sympathy for them receiving dea…
/r/MensRights10/12/14 07:49 AM
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They have the focus of the entire internet on them. I'm sure the volume and severity of the threats are on a completely different level.
/r/MensRights10/12/14 01:26 AM
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You know, I don't disagree. The point about kangaroo courts in colleges is solid: it's a misapplication of liberalism that infantilises women in my view, but that doesn't change the fact that it is motivated by people who consider themselves liberal, and certainly campaigned for by them. The same with other problems in family court etc. I'm not going to pull a no true scotsman or attempt to defend idiocy. These people do make me sad to call myself a liberal, because obviously it isn't a detailed…
/r/MensRights09/12/14 11:54 PM
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Sure, whatever. Semantics aside, a part of the gaming community is sending a decent number of death and rape threats to women like Quinn and Sarkeesian, and I sympathise with these two as a result.
/r/MensRights09/12/14 11:43 PM
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I'm a liberal. You could make the case that the MRM is by definition liberal, since it fights against traditional gender roles and misandry that is part of the traditional gender system. Conservatism is about resisting change and maintaining institutions from the past isn't it? Unless you want to repeal women's rights in some way?
/r/MensRights09/12/14 11:15 PM
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So you mean overzealous university students like the ones who picketed Warren Farrell? I consider myself a feminist as well as a MRA and these examples are all total douchenozzles who undermine equality. I can sort of understand the people defending Quinn, though. She might be a really flawed person, but when the internet gets angry at you it can be scary, I expect she really does fear for her safety. And the amount of attention she's got is excessive. Sarkeesian is really dry, and her kickstart…
/r/MensRights09/12/14 10:33 PM
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See, this is the sort of comment that makes me really despair for this sub. There are some really crazy people here, and while I believe they are a minority I wish they were called out more. Is this place turning into /r/republican or /r/conservatives or something? What the hell does any of that have to do with gender issues?
/r/MensRights09/12/14 10:16 PM
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Ok, so can anyone give me an actual example of a real life SJW so I can understand what the fuss is about? Is it just ignorant people on tumblr or are there a real number of irl people you could call SJWs?
/r/MensRights09/12/14 09:44 PM
1

He misspelled it, but incel is short for involuntary celibate. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=incel
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 06:13 AM
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No hate, but Tony Porter says the same things but is a million times more eloquent. See his man box TED talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 05:22 AM
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Everyone here makes it sound like he has the worst life ever. I'd happily take his wealth and groupies. Sounds fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 04:18 AM
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I think it's a permanent and visible sign that she has a past that you are not a part of. Like, she's already used/damaged/spoiled goods. Maybe she got a tattoo while out having fun with somebody who isn't me? Like the virgin/whore dilemma that a lot of guys have (myself included). That's my assumption looking at it from the outside. Could be totally wrong. Would like to hear RP views on this rather than mindless BP upvotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 07:43 AM
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It seems like everyone involved on both sides has revealed themselves to be utterly childish twats. I think that the little cartoon girl mascot is cute though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 08:46 AM
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You need to identify just what you mean by red pill wife or this can't be answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 09:30 PM
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No, you couldn't.
/r/MensRights29/11/14 07:10 PM
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Ireland is kind of a shit hole when it comes to anything related to sex.
/r/MensRights29/11/14 07:05 PM
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Both sides have some awful awful advice. Personally I only want people to recognise that and pick the best bits of either. I don't want you to stay weak or confused, and I think that is a legitimate criticism of the blue pill - they don't give great dating advice because they are largely focused on protecting women, and then they wonder why men eventually try something else. If you're just looking to get laid, I'd say go check out the seduction subreddits rather than TRP - they have largely the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 02:13 PM
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An interesting point. I think culture certainly plays a role as well, and that may be closely tied to race. Certainly the glorification of violence in rap etc is shitting on black people. However, I still don't expect black people to be inclined towards crime after they have been lifted from poverty. It may be cultural, but I don't think it's racial.
/r/MensRights05/11/14 04:56 AM
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Pretty sure that's correlated with socio economic status rather than race. Poor people are more inclined to commit violent crime.
/r/MensRights05/11/14 03:59 AM
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Well how about that, some good news for once. Go Denmark.
/r/MensRights23/10/14 05:42 PM
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This is why we need male-only schools. Do you people upvote this shit without even reading it?
/r/MensRights22/10/14 09:15 PM
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This is very well thought out. It certainly clarifies what I've already felt about the movement. AVFM and MGTOW are toxic and reactionary, a triumph of pain over reason that holds back the movement for men.
/r/MensRights20/10/14 03:49 PM
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I think feminists would agree that the draft should be applied equally to all.
/r/MensRights18/10/14 11:57 PM
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I agree with you on wanting a unified movement for both genders, but I still consider myself a feminist because I feel those in the feminist movement who advocate solely for women are not true feminists and do not understand feminist theory. It's a matter of semantics, really, or a no true Scotsman thing. I recognise that a lot of feminism is really uninterested in men (despite it actually being in their interest to be), but feminist theory to me is clearly a philosophy of equality, with men's i…
/r/MensRights15/10/14 07:36 PM
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I'm not usually into exceptions, but so long as it isn't full of 16 year olds who had 14 year old boy/girlfriends, and say you could get your name removed after 5 years, I'd make this deal.
/r/MensRights13/10/14 11:56 AM
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I'm going to start giving my (equality) feminist perspective on these posts: The concept of ongoing verbal affirmative consent is poorly thought out and a terrible legal concept. It's like mandating that all people have sex with condoms. Or use dental dams. Who the fuck uses a dental dam. EDIT I have to amend my post. The law doesn't require consent to be verbal, just ongoing. Basically, if she looks or acts scared or unwilling, you need to stop and ask her what's up. This seems like a decent id…
/r/MensRights12/10/14 04:30 PM
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Well, the costs of my college education are being increased because of bs courses with no value. There should be more apprenticeships and on the job training available for vocational jobs, not university degrees. And honestly, I think there is a lot of pressure on all kids to excel academically, and it just isn't necessary for all of them. I'd love for all kids to be good at everything but it doesn't work that way. It's a lot of pressure throughout childhood and a lot of people aren't cut out fo…
/r/MensRights08/10/14 02:48 PM
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As a nerd, with so many shit degrees out there and people who shouldn't be in higher ed, I think universities should be a place for intellectuals and geeks. Not people doing a bullshit degree in hotel management or golf course sciences. Of course that's got to be the same for both genders.
/r/MensRights07/10/14 06:24 PM
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Someone reasonable. How refreshing. Have gold and keep it up.
/r/MensRights05/10/14 07:50 AM
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You're discounting homosexual behaviour? Gardisil protects against colorectal cancer. I don't really see this as a mens' rights issue, but vaccines are so cost effective that limiting their use can only be described as short-sighted. The costs should be taken from somewhere else if necessary.
/r/MensRights03/10/14 08:02 AM
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Don't see the relevance of this post really.
/r/MensRights02/10/14 03:27 PM
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I always hated the men's rights movement and thought it was a joke As a guy who is in the MRM, I think a lot of it is fairly worthy of this critique. But it's nice that you have had a change of heart, and it speaks well of you that you were disgusted by it rather than happy when you realised your own position of privilege.
/r/MensRights02/10/14 12:29 AM
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As a man who identifies as a feminist (in favour of equality), this organisation really rustles my jimmies. Either Emma wrote her own speech and went off the party line with her bit about men (my guess), or they planned to use the cloak of men's rights to recruit people to their women's rights cause. Either way it's unfair to men. I don't mind if you want to focus on women's issues, just don't do such deceptive advertising for it. AND WHERE THE HELL IS #SHEFORHE? IT'S LIKE SO GODDAMNED OBVIOUS J…
/r/MensRights25/09/14 03:11 PM
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What the fuck does that have to do with this? Jesus, are you guys all just a bunch of budweiser frogs unable to say anything other than False Rape Accusations?
/r/MensRights05/09/14 12:56 PM
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I think the barber should have done the cut since it was a male cut, but on a legal basis I don't think he's technically in the wrong. Plenty of people have pointed out the comparison to women's only gyms, and it seems hard to dispute. I don't see how she can win this suit.
/r/MensRights31/08/14 10:35 PM
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How about if society allows men to prioritize their own needs without the approval of women? Isn't this more divisive, tho? The point of the MRM/4th wave feminism is to realise that every female issue has a corresponding opposite male issue, and that they are both oppressive and we need to care about each other's issues and address both of them together if we are to have any hope of actually succeeding. Women being expected to stay home/men being expected to work are both just different sides of…
/r/MensRights27/08/14 11:14 PM
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This post is almost too good for this sub. No one has accused feminists of wanting women to be raped yet. I really like the idea that men's issues are the fourth wave of feminism. If only everyone could agree to that.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 04:49 AM
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I hate this tactic because it only reinforces the exact same sexism. Women get paid less, yes, but men are treated like disposable objects without the right to complain about anything. Women and children first, that sort of thing. It's a complex issue and maybe I'm not explaining it well, but I feel this cake sale will only serve to reinforce the feeling that men are less worthy as humans than women. And what man really feels like he will get a fair hearing if he tries to debate a femsoc. I'm a …
/r/MensRights23/07/14 11:40 PM
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I don't think it really helps. Not many people believe (1), and anecdotes, even a steady stream of them, aren't great evidence for (2) or (3). I think if we had a relative statistic it would make a lot more impact on those points.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 10:06 PM
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I am doing something, by being a voice of reason. And why aren't you telling everyone else in this pose to stop bitching and do something? Somehow posting "feminists want people to be raped" is better than what I'm doing? I fail to see how any of this frenzy helps advocacy.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 07:40 AM
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Sure. So compile statistics and make a post about them. One more anecdote serves no purpose except to excite people who want to be outraged. I understand how seductive it is, but we've got to be better than that.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 05:13 AM
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I just don't see anything positive coming out of listing every false rape accusation in detail here for people to froth at the mouth over. It's not constructive, just masturbatory. It's rage porn. Not that your website shouldn't exist or we shouldn't discuss false rape accusations, but there has to be a balance.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 03:50 AM
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I think we've had enough posts about false accusations. They happen, they suck, but we don't need to see a post about every single one if there is nothing particularly noteworthy about it. Otherwise this place will continue to be just a circlejerk of self pity.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 02:36 AM
1

It's really a shame, but the hate of "feminism" seems to be endemic in the MRM. I think a huge amount of it is how people use the word to mean pretty much opposite things, equality vs female advocacy/supremacy. And the rest of it is because when you separate men from women, both groups get super echo chamber and circle-jerky. Feminist spaces become nothing but "OMG RAPE IS SO BAD, DAE AGREE?" and Men's Rights spaces become nothing but "OMG FALSE RAPE ACCUSATIONS ARE SO BAD, DAE AGREE?". Which is…
/r/MensRights16/07/14 03:42 PM
1

Just want to say, you aren't alone. I tried to be a voice of reason here, but this sub seems to be beyond saving if shit like this is being upvoted.
/r/MensRights15/07/14 11:56 PM
2

What the actual fucking fuck are you fucking talking about, you fucking psycho. Holy fuck, I'm sick to shit of this place. What the fuck is wrong with you. Men's rights should not be focused on bashing feminists, but self pitying assholes like you have totally fucked any chance of something positive coming out of this sub. This place has become a monstrous circle jerk of the most disgusting sort.
/r/MensRights15/07/14 11:54 PM
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This idea is both hideously misandrist and misogynistic. This implies that men are all guilty by default and women are all so weak that they are incapable of standing up to cross examination for 10 minutes.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 05:19 PM
1

I think of it as the idea that men are stronger but somehow less pure than women. It's a rubbish name for it, but that one tiny belief is literally the root of ALL sexism. There is truly nothing else you need to know.
/r/MensRights01/07/14 05:04 PM
9

Patriarchy is bad for men, too. That much is true. Whether you believe feminism cares enough about men to actually do anything about it is a different question, but sexism vs men and sexism vs women are usually just opposite sides of the same coin.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 07:46 PM
8

To be fair, he did already get compensation, probably paid by her. Glad she's in jail though.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 02:34 AM
1

I guess that 1.2 billion people recognizing him as the head steward of god's church is a little underwhelming. That's a logical fallacy, I'm pretty sure. Do his 1.2 billion followers make his protection of paedophilia moral? No. His crusade against gays? His crusade against lifesaving condoms? How about some sex abuse context? The rates of sexual abuse within the catholic church were in the past exactly the same as those in other faith communities. Yeah, well as an atheist, I don't find any othe…
/r/MensRights24/06/14 05:46 PM
3

moral authority for the world's largest religion. I don't see him as any sort of moral authority. At all. You aren't somehow more moral because you head a religion. I don't even know him well enough to consider him an intellectual authority. Theology isn't a real subject, and literature is sort of meh. Not to mention that he protects paedophiles. He has no leg to stand on. I don't understand why people are giving his words any weight.
/r/MensRights24/06/14 03:12 PM
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I don't see this as an enlightened position. He's the pope. As far as I know he only wants women in the kitchen and the bedroom. Also the "a woman is much more than that" bit strikes me as chauvinistic and weird. And this guy is sworn to celibacy, I don't think he knows enough about women to be listened to. And finally, is he denigrating all of feminism? Only western feminism? Because there are parts that are probably still necessary and relevant. And there is a whole half a world where women ar…
/r/MensRights23/06/14 10:13 PM
2

Yes, there have been posts like this since I've come here as well, but I'm trying to foster change in the community. What does this post achieve? It only feeds anger, and misplaced anger at that. While we're at it, why don't we just post that "TIL SERENA WILLIAMS CHALLEGNED A MAN AND LOST COS WOMEN ARE WEAKER AND INFERIOR AND THIS IS HOW I GET IT OUT OF MY SYSTEM" over and over and over and over again. I didn't explain that well, but I think these sorts of stories cheapen the subject of men's ri…
/r/MensRights07/06/14 01:57 AM
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This is anecdotal bs. Posting this here doesn't make us better than tumblr, it just makes us diametrically opposed and just as masturbatory. Some people trivialise rape, yes, but not all of feminism. Upvoting shit like this is what is holding back men's rights. I want this movement to succeed. Grow up, people, this isn't supposed to be tumblr for boys. Are we just going to stand here jerking each other off all day?
/r/MensRights06/06/14 11:38 PM
1

I don't dislike feminism Always encouraged when I see this upvoted. The TRP-esque unqualified hate for feminism that you sometimes see on this sub is the biggest enemy we have. But I think I'm seeing it less and less.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 04:37 PM
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It might be interesting to you to realise that everything you are saying is said by people who seek to ban abortion. "Should have kept your legs closed." "Should have worn a condom." "Why are you having sex if you aren't willing to raise a child?"
/r/MensRights04/06/14 04:34 PM
1

Sometimes opinions are more nuanced than an up or downvote will allow. What boringreality should specify is whether he thinks men should be expected to pay for the first date. Anything else is irrelevant at best, and more likely will be construed as an opinion on that point, as has happened here. "I don't really mind paying [so other men shouldn't either/ so this isn't a real issue/ so men who do mind are cheap]" You can't blame people for inferring those opinions logically from the context. Oth…
/r/MensRights30/05/14 09:11 PM
1

How much of this is like saying that black people are the one that predominately commit crime and they should acknowledge it as to reduce it? Perhaps it is similar. Once you stop denying the fact that black people cause statistically more crime you can move on to identifying the issues there: low socioeconomic status, poor neighborhood schools, lack of role models, cultural expectations etc. And then progress can be made on those issues. If you are stuck at accepting the facts, then you can't de…
/r/MensRights30/05/14 02:51 PM
3

Here to remind everyone to keep it real. Everyone here seems to be trying to rationalise these statistics down. Perhaps they are exaggerated (or unfair in the case of the definition of rape), but how far can we expect to diminish those numbers? Down to what? 50%? Lower? And then what? Do we win? I honestly won't pretend to know, because everyone seems to have a different set of stats these days, but it does seem likely that the truth is men commit more crime than women by a sizable margin. The d…
/r/MensRights30/05/14 06:30 AM
2

I think creepy is just another way of saying someone has low confidence. If you think about it, you can do almost anything and make it non-creepy if you are confident enough. This is why people think women find unattractive people creepy when they do the same things that would make attractive people seem cute. The differentiating factor isn't the person's looks, at least not entirely, it's their attitude.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 05:13 PM
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Well put. We should all be working towards inclusivity rather than exclusivity.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 05:02 PM
0

I agree with you except on the video of the woman hitting the man. Intimidation and bullying isn't just about physical strength: skinny kids bully bigger kids in schools all the time, and it is every bit as harmful. I'm sure you wouldn't say that was something to laugh at. It's the same when women hit men.
/r/MensRights25/05/14 05:04 PM
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Firstly, many of your points are valid. My point is that I think she understands that men can have issues as well. The degree to which she fully appreciates that is another matter, but she isn't someone who thinks "sexism only negatively affects women". To me, that is a sign that she is an ally. That's the biggest hurdle to men's rights today. She may not be perfect, but she's got that right at least. In the same way that I'm an ally of transgendered people without fully understanding the issues…
/r/MensRights25/05/14 05:01 PM
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She may have got a few commonly misused facts wrong, but that doesn't change the validity of her other points. There is inequality against men and women today, and I'm satisfied that she is against both. Not equally, perhaps. The majority of her points were on women's issues, but some were on men's issues. That means she DOES care about men's issues. She isn't being hypocritical.
/r/MensRights25/05/14 04:52 PM
0

Yeah, the naming is actually really really awful. I wish they would change their name to egalitarianism or something. There are definitely "feminists" who only want to look out for women (feminazis), so you have a point, but there are feminists who do want equality. It's confusing both ways: feminism makes people think it's only about looking out for women, and patriarchy makes people think the status quo unilaterally favours men. They're both really confusingly shitty words.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 08:50 PM
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For one thing, she said she was against circumcision, and her video had points about the pressures men face. She could have been clearer or spent more time on it - in fact, I think she'd be more persuasive if she had - but she's showing that she gets at least some of it. That's praiseworthy, she's certainly ahead of the crowd when it comes to that. The feminist idea starts with there being a patriarchy where men have all the benefits, and women are an oppressed people. That's obviously not true.…
/r/MensRights24/05/14 08:47 PM
3

But this lady is against MGM - she made that so obvious. Why can't we see that she's an ally? Yes it is disheartening when women are unsympathetic and ignorant, but that's why we need to be welcoming and supportive of these who do get it. Bashing all women isn't a solution. Of course women care about the way their brothers and sons and fathers are treated, they just need to be educated bro. That's the thing that got me into feminism: I love my sister and mother, and someday maybe my daughter. I'…
/r/MensRights24/05/14 08:35 PM
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Wait, what? Ironically? How? Those are totally valid reasons. Sounds like she's in favor of equality for both sexes. It sounds like her definition of feminism (like mine and many other's) encompasses men's rights/liberation as well. That's great. That's what feminism should mean. What is everyone getting upset at this for? She's doing an important service by including men's issues in her video: women who watch this will hopefully learn something about men's issues from it. She's an ally of men's…
/r/MensRights24/05/14 05:28 PM
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