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cz_masterrace/r/MGTOW225/07/19 01:59 AM
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Will do - thanks bro - always learning
/r/MGTOW202/06/21 05:50 AM
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Assholes have a tendency to always make themselves look bad without you having to say a word.
/r/MGTOW202/06/21 04:24 AM
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Let me begin by saying that some of you guys are just closet incels angry at the world and wouldnt be MGTOW if you could touch a warm blooded vagina. Loved your post, but the truth is anybody with 50 bucks in their pocket can get sex. Sure you have your top 1% of 1% Chads not paying for sex. But trust me - every other dude out there in a relationship or with a GF is paying it in some form or another. If someone is an incel - it's incel by choice. Not a psychologist, but if someone is an incel th…
/r/MGTOW202/06/21 12:16 AM
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I lost a lot of weight and gained tone by following this guy's routine. Bonus points for not being one of those high energy annoying youtube jagoffs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvhHhDNjtxM Did this once a day between conference calls. Took next to no time and sure as hell was more effective than spending 45 minutes on a treadmill.
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 07:05 PM
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Occasional bouts of loneliness is a small price to pay for absolute freedom.
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 12:39 AM
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And the guys that work at all of the game development studios are blue pilled simps that are the main supporters of the female twitch and OnlyFans industries
/r/MGTOW231/05/21 11:25 PM
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Yes, but if you want to be loved back then get a dog.
/r/MGTOW231/05/21 11:21 PM
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I can't believe I've never heard this before. True. Funny, but also very true.
/r/MGTOW231/05/21 08:53 PM
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Cause they have a woman constantly harassing them to go get that cough checked out at the doctor so they can continue to finance their lives. Gotta keep that cash cow on the treadmill.
/r/MGTOW231/05/21 06:26 PM
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I personally think guys spending money on hookers are smarter than the guys spending money on OnlyFans or porn type shit. Or worse the twitch e-thots where you don't even see them naked. Like what?
/r/MGTOW231/05/21 05:24 PM
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Even if you don't get sexual harassment shit thrown your way it is crazy awkward to work with someone on an ongoing basis if things don't work out.
/r/MGTOW231/05/21 05:23 PM
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You'd be shocked at the amount of women controlling their dude's diet. I know several dudes on some soul crushing vegan diets cause their girl makes them. WALNUT TACOS. Sad. Sure some of it is humor, but sadly a lot is a shade of truth.
/r/MGTOW230/05/21 11:46 PM
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Said it before, will say it again. Online dating is the clearance rack of women. The best women have ZERO problems meeting dudes. In fact, they have to actively work to keep them at bay. And before they end a relationship they already have 5 eyed up. They can walk down the street and be constantly hit on or go out to dinner with friends and find a dozen suitors. The only women on dating apps are bottom of the barrel or attention whores.
/r/MGTOW230/05/21 11:42 PM
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"Live...live for me"
/r/MGTOW230/05/21 11:38 PM
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Oh to be as smart as you at 18...
/r/MGTOW230/05/21 08:50 PM
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And for any married guys lurking here - if your wife wants to start buying a bunch of new stuff, get her car fixed, etc - there's a good chance she's on her way out. Upgrading her life on your dime - a life without you though.
/r/MGTOW230/05/21 03:38 AM
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No, those are the only hard and fast rules to be MGTOW. No marriage, no cohabitation. The rest is 100% up to you. YOUR own way!
/r/MGTOW230/05/21 03:00 AM
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MGTOW isn't no girls at all dude - where did you get that? It's no marriage and no cohabitation. I've had FWB on and off since my divorce 5 years ago...just make it crystal clear that's as far as it goes. Some here date, have gfs, hookers, etc - it's going YOUR own way. Simple.
/r/MGTOW230/05/21 01:30 AM
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My first employer was loud about the fact that they loved to employ young attractive people. They'd have events after work hoping people would mingle, hook up, and get married. They're now rooted and work at the same company- don't need to give them good raises or promote them and can work them to death now. Stuck.
/r/MGTOW229/05/21 02:33 PM
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Just some encouragement to others to stay healthy and look after themselves- seems relative to me. Lots of guys come here drowning in toxic habits that they picked up trying to cope with their blue pilled lives.
/r/MGTOW229/05/21 02:20 PM
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"That and a pair of testicles."
/r/MGTOW228/05/21 08:17 PM
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Your story is crazy engaging, but sorry you are experiencing some emotional turmoil. I hope everything turns out alright for you.
/r/MGTOW228/05/21 08:16 PM
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This song may be appropriate.
/r/MGTOW228/05/21 08:08 PM
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I think most of this stuff can be chalked up to late night hallucinations or tricks your brain plays on you. I had sleep paralysis for years and before I knew what it was I thought I was experiencing paranormal/supernatural...but as with most things there was a practical and logical explanation.
/r/MGTOW228/05/21 12:47 AM
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Psychosphere
/r/MGTOW227/05/21 11:45 PM
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Disengaged instead of feeding her what she wants. Great scene. https://youtu.be/_fOUMAntCiQ
/r/MGTOW227/05/21 11:30 PM
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Clearance rack of women. The best ones never hit the market - just monkey branch to the next. Or can simply walk down the street or go out to eat. Will get approached nonstop. Facts.
/r/MGTOW227/05/21 03:55 PM
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Don't upgrade your life as you receive promotions and raises. Also, when you do get your annual merit increase or a promotion/raise - increase your retirement contribution by a percent or two each year- in a decade or so you'll be maxing out and you won't ever know it or feel it because it will have been so gradual. Live like a college student for as long as you can especially while starting out. Build an emergency fund and then quickly get that money working for you in the markets or other inve…
/r/MGTOW227/05/21 03:30 PM
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Tongue in cheek my dude :)
/r/MGTOW226/05/21 09:56 PM
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Maybe if you find yourself back in the office and the same spot - take a break and do contract work? You'll lose the benefits, but the pay will be slightly better and you are rarely involved or there long enough to be subjected to the politics. Do your job then go home. I did this for 10 years between FTE jobs and it was a nice change of pace albeit with its own drawbacks.
/r/MGTOW226/05/21 09:20 PM
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Wait until there's a divorce app where couples can divorce in a few pushes of a button.
/r/MGTOW226/05/21 09:17 PM
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Kids too. If she takes the children from the guy she is protecting them and a warrior. If a guy takes them he has stolen them or robbed them of their mother. The list is endless on these double standards!
/r/MGTOW226/05/21 05:05 PM
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I have always been notorious easy to argue with and anger. It has been something I can't control my whole life. Marriage will challenge this on a level you can't comprehend.
/r/MGTOW226/05/21 01:06 PM
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Also better than my ex-wife who argued for sport!
/r/MGTOW226/05/21 12:37 AM
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I feel you - I wasn't designed to live a domesticated lifestyle and need a lot of alone time or I get anxiety. I fought this most of my life until I embraced it. Main reason I'm MGTOW. With that said - I'm torn on your situation. Part of me thinks you have to learn to be selfless once you have kids. That was clearly your choice since it sounds like you have multiple so part of me says man up. The other part of me says what good are you as a father if you're sacrificing your happiness to be in so…
/r/MGTOW225/05/21 08:15 PM
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Healthcare analytics has treated me real well and there are no shortage of complex problems to solve. High paying, challenging, and rewarding.
/r/MGTOW225/05/21 06:00 PM
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I think politicians on both sides serve corporate America and do whatever the companies that got them into power want. They use social issues to divide us and maintain power when it comes time to vote and then pretend to care the rest of their term while voting and doing back door deals that help their corporate buddies and nothing for the constituents. With that said - the right used to be too religion focused as a party and now it is veering towards live and let live type of party. The left is…
/r/MGTOW225/05/21 04:17 PM
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I had a high libido until my late 30s. Now in my lower 40s and I never think about sex randomly throughout the day. If an attractive woman is around me then I will think about it but that's about it. Liberating.
/r/MGTOW225/05/21 01:53 AM
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As you said, birth rates have sharply fallen, and male suicide remains high. And skyrockets if you include Japan in the conversation
/r/MGTOW224/05/21 07:12 PM
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I make an exaggerated deal of pulling it out of my ear to listen...that helps give them the hint too.
/r/MGTOW224/05/21 02:42 PM
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Married men have a woman nagging on them to go to the doctor and get that cough checked out because they need the money to keep rolling in.
/r/MGTOW224/05/21 03:46 AM
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And don't forget it depends on what the woman is looking to seek from the guy. I've had candid conversations with many women who tell me their promiscuity fluctuates depending on how they view the guy. Someone long term? The brakes go on. Short term? The freak without inhibitions is in full force. Sad but there it is.
/r/MGTOW224/05/21 03:44 AM
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As someone very anti-marriage...I'd be less worried about a woman of faith who takes her vows as seriously as her faith...but yeah - you'll still run into the same issues in marriage as the rest of us...its just that you two might do the "through better or for worse" part a bit better than people who's vows are nothing more than words. Good luck.
/r/MGTOW224/05/21 01:18 AM
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The only young couples I know of that have stayed together through thick and thin have been faith based couples. Christian, Jewish, Muslim... Are both of you equally committed to your faith or is one more so than the other? IMO - the only way this works is if you two are on the same page religiously.
/r/MGTOW224/05/21 01:01 AM
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You aren't wrong, but for me I don't know, something doesn't quite feel right applying the top 20% male to him since he lacks in so many other categories. I think a lot of women would reject him on appearance and lack of strength where as very few would reject a top 20%. But fun to discuss.
/r/MGTOW223/05/21 08:17 PM
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IMO, no. Bill gates has the top percent of the top percent of the top percent of income and it still isn't enough to put him in an "alpha male" category ever with all of his other shortcomings in the other areas...IMO.
/r/MGTOW223/05/21 07:05 PM
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TBF to the OP, having your dick unsecured while working out can iritate the tip.
/r/MGTOW223/05/21 12:54 PM
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Neither? This sub doesn't align at all with either of those types.
/r/MGTOW223/05/21 12:53 PM
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I'm into long range target shooting and want to setup a gun range.
/r/MGTOW223/05/21 12:36 PM
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About as much as they think about me.
/r/MGTOW223/05/21 02:31 AM
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I have land in Central Texas. I always had my heart set on retiring there, but the price has tripled and it's getting a little too busy for my liking as a weekend getaway spot. I have a friend in NE Tennessee and it is now on my radar. I think you have a good plan. Just need a small cabin on 10-40 acres and a nice barn for some toys...easy to find that way and no income taxes is equally important. Cheers.
/r/MGTOW223/05/21 12:37 AM
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Sitting in a penthouse condo (VRBO, not mine) overlooking the gulf. Sun just set a few minutes ago. I spend a month here every year for vacation, although the month and place varies. Wherever and whenever I can get the best deal! I live a frugal life most of the year but splurge on these annual trips and also typically do a 5 day Vegas trip in the fall to celebrate my birthday! Life is good - MGTOW life is better!
/r/MGTOW223/05/21 12:25 AM
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Getting out right before the inevitable "I need to find myself" stage. You have probably saved yourself a lot more drama.
/r/MGTOW222/05/21 09:18 PM
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Notice how men are evil...unless it's someone they perceive as high value...then they get a pass. All the others? Scum.
/r/MGTOW222/05/21 09:17 PM
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and I honestly don't care. Best part of the story - MGTOW allows you to be more open and honest than other men because we aren't seeking validation from others.
/r/MGTOW222/05/21 09:13 PM
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I started feeling like I owed it to her since she had been with me after a certain length of time - despite fighting too much and losing so much of who I was in the process. I was heading for divorce long before I was even engaged. I think I assumed it would go back to the honeymoon period in terms of getting along and being happy if I only married her then she'd have all she wanted and be satisfied and happy with me. I was a fool!
/r/MGTOW222/05/21 02:22 PM
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I'm a big fan of option C. Don't say anything to her and go about living your life and making yourself happy.
/r/MGTOW221/05/21 10:31 PM
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Poetic and true. They want their life to be a never ending lifetime movie. The second that stops they will start looking for the next movie.
/r/MGTOW221/05/21 03:09 PM
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Or a drinking game...drink every time you see the word "patriarch."
/r/MGTOW221/05/21 02:54 PM
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This is definitely it. And she was barely working so she had lots of time to dwell on any little thing in our life that was not at Disney Princess status. She wanted the world and expected things and her happiness to come completely from a partner - never once looking for those things from within or looking to change herself. Then would go on Facebook and see all the other people and what they were doing and then compare to her life. You know how it is - nothing is ever what it seems on social m…
/r/MGTOW221/05/21 01:46 PM
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I downplay everything in my life on purpose. Objectively, I am a successful person and physically big and strong in comparison to my peers. First and foremost - realize there is "always a bigger fish." Always someone better looking, stronger, bigger, and has more money. But whether you are objectively "better" or not doesn't matter. Learn to be humble and downplay your status. Instead of saying how much money you make say "I do okay for myself" or "I have a few pennies saved up for a rainy day."…
/r/MGTOW221/05/21 01:41 PM
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When the criticisms of me and her negativity towards little things in general started slowly becoming a bigger and bigger part of her vocabulary and attitude was the beginning of the end now that I reflect back. She would criticize how I loaded the dishwasher at one point. Became rude to the waitresses or busboy. Wtf? Slow death - the demise didn't happen over night. As I started to stand up for myself or remove myself from the situation is when she started justifying leaving me in her head - co…
/r/MGTOW221/05/21 01:20 PM
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Also how few men leave a stripper on their own terms? Most get dragged through the mud and their pride goes with it. You can hang your head high and she can sit there wondering what happened.
/r/MGTOW221/05/21 03:21 AM
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The best part is giving zero fucks about what she does or doesn't do with her time now. Focus is solely on you!
/r/MGTOW221/05/21 01:46 AM
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Enjoy every minute - many slaves out there still plugged in who dream of having a day/night like this just ONCE a year. You can do it whenever you want.
/r/MGTOW221/05/21 01:44 AM
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They will ban and cancel differing opinion until there's no one left if they keep this up. How are you supposed to learn, grow, and explore things without open discussion that contains a array of opinions. Sad to see reddit go down this path with such fervor - have seen other communities chase their tail on this one and they are ghost towns now.
/r/MGTOW220/05/21 10:48 PM
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Minimalism and MGTOW are almost synonymous. Part of swallowing that red pill is also realizing you don't need a bunch of if extra stuff and baggage in your life. Less you own, the less it owns you. With that said, I spend and do whatever I want as long as I'm also saving to reach my early retirement goals. I know this is a bit contradictory to what I said earlier, but I enjoy nice meals put, take a few nice vacations somewhere tropical tropical don't skimp on accusations and am always spending m…
/r/MGTOW220/05/21 06:14 PM
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40 and can say I've noticed a dramatic decrease in thinking about sex in a given week the last few years. Days go by and it doesn't even cross my mind. If an attractive girl is in my precense I still think about wanting her sexually and could perform the same as I could when I was 20. But with no female around I only have random sexual thoughts a few times a month. Liberating.
/r/MGTOW220/05/21 02:24 AM
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They are out there, but are married early and loyal to their husband's and families so they never hit the market.
/r/MGTOW219/05/21 05:42 PM
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Add me to the list. In fact, the only thing I give my ex-wife credit for was the night she told me I'd never quit smoking. Talk about the best form of motivation a man needs. I did the patch for the first 2 days but by the third I forgot to put it on and powered through. 6 years later I don't even give it a thought. But yeah once a week on Friday night I'll sit on my porch and dry vape some of the finest I can get my hands on with a nice Kolsh style beer until I can barely function. I look up at…
/r/MGTOW219/05/21 05:36 PM
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I'm not a big fan of jail, prison, or additional fines. Think that makes people smart vs afraid regardless of race.
/r/MGTOW217/05/21 10:48 PM
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Lido Key. Get a cheap place with a pool near the beach for a week or two. Can walk to St. Armands Circle for lunch/dinner/drinks - go into downtown Sarasota for a change of pace now and then. Probably don't even need a car. I do this a few times a year or get a VRBO on Longboat Key. Pure relaxation and not too far from home. Want something more remote and special? St. John USVI.
/r/MGTOW217/05/21 05:32 PM
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What's your budget and how much time do you have?
/r/MGTOW217/05/21 01:41 PM
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I've been able to cultivate a few FWB situations over the years, and emphasis on the "Friend" part of FWB where you can be brutally honest and open about everything. But my experience mirrors yours. It might be years, but eventually they will start wanting more seemingly overnight. My most recent situation was PERFECT until COVID came along and ficked it up. She stopped going out and having her own life and BAM...she went from just sex and hanging out here and there when it was convenient for bo…
/r/MGTOW216/05/21 11:55 AM
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They are coming in and downvoting everyone in mass because they are so threatened and triggered by our sub. Think about that for a minute- the levels of pathetic and sad there is mental to me.
/r/MGTOW216/05/21 05:17 AM
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There's a theory that our main biological advantage (besides our brains) which separates us from primates is our ability to throw things evolved over time as we moved from the trees to the grasslands at the edge of the forests. Chimps and gorillas can climb but can't throw worth a damn. We are nothing physically yo be feared compared to a tiger or lion, but 50 of us together throwing rocks and sharp sticks is now something those animals fear and allowed us to spread to wherever we wanted beyond …
/r/MGTOW216/05/21 04:56 AM
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Think about how guys and gals segregated for the majority of our existence. Guys went on hunts together or spent time away from women and women raised children and cooked. Only time we'd couple up was at night for procreation. NOW it's expected to spend every hour of every day of every year together and expect it to work. WTF?
/r/MGTOW216/05/21 04:04 AM
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Having your time, freedom, money, and personality stripped away and held hostage(divorce and you lose things) little by little over the course of time by another person is about the worst lifestyle a person can live. And your attraction from the outside world approaches zero because you are BORING. No thank you...I have the t-shirt.
/r/MGTOW216/05/21 03:10 AM
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Appreciate these posts - always gets me thinking.
/r/MGTOW216/05/21 03:06 AM
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I wish I was as smart and mature as you at 24.
/r/MGTOW215/05/21 07:24 PM
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Badass and congrats to you. Might inspire some others who come here and are in a similar spot!
/r/MGTOW215/05/21 07:08 PM
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Ask them for money to support a wife and kids if it means that much to them. You'll be waiting a long time.
/r/MGTOW215/05/21 04:02 PM
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No this is when Walt says he is smoking weed - this scene. A blue pilled man making the first stand of his life
/r/MGTOW215/05/21 01:14 PM
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That's not what this sub is about or supports. You clearly don't understand what this place is about and your anger is misguided, but wish you a happier future. -Happy "loser" who is MGTOW
/r/MGTOW215/05/21 01:48 AM
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I was an only child and my mom was an alcoholic and would emotionally abuse my dad every night, sometimes so bad that the cops were called a few times. He'd have to go and sleep at a hotel. My guess is that you can relate and bring up good points because you saw an extreme example of what a woman is capable of and gave you a rare perspective. Sadly this is happening on a milder but just as harmful and damaging scale across the country. And if a man dare make a fuss he loses access to his kids, h…
/r/MGTOW215/05/21 01:33 AM
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Of course there's also the scene when Walt tells his wife to climb down out if his ass. Legendary scene.
/r/MGTOW214/05/21 10:39 PM
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As an older dude - I have an abundance of redpilled friends and frankly, we have a closer bond and have more fun than any of my bluepilled friends - their view on life is typically dull and full of limitations...I find that hard to relate to as a MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW214/05/21 03:41 PM
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Just being brutally honest with your partner and taking the good with the bad would lead to better relationships...but that's not how you get the guy/girl you want. You give them what you think they want and then over time the real people behind those facades come out and thats when everything dissolves between the two.
/r/MGTOW214/05/21 12:23 AM
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I think they are both shitty humans and my gut says Rogan might have even known or been present during some of this stuff and kept quiet until it became public. Or he's choosing to side with allegations over standing by his friend until they are proven true. Either case makes him a shit person. The only way he's not a shit person is if they weren't really friends, but just wanted to appear to be to sell movies which is sort of his job - if that's the case then Rogan did the right thing...but I d…
/r/MGTOW213/05/21 08:44 PM
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I wish I could add to this discussion, but you nail this one. Good comment.
/r/MGTOW213/05/21 05:56 PM
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There's better forums for this. I raise and hunt 95% of my family's meat. I am really finding it difficult to connect MGTOW to a plant based diet. Sorry.
/r/MGTOW212/05/21 01:38 AM
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I agree with a diet focused on whole foods, but you lost me at no meat.
/r/MGTOW211/05/21 10:58 PM
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Most annoying thing for me are the obvious redpill youtube self promoters peddling their shit here.
/r/MGTOW211/05/21 10:56 PM
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Well you just go around trolling cause you're so bored...ya what a life you must be living ;)
/r/MGTOW211/05/21 07:50 PM
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You can disagree, but you'd be wrong. The ONLY rules to MGTOW is no marriage and no cohabitation. I'm glad you're happily married, but you aren't going your own way when you're at the mercy of someone else's choice to stay with you or not (and take your assets away).
/r/MGTOW211/05/21 07:48 PM
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Oh man totally got me - what a sick burn.
/r/MGTOW211/05/21 11:23 AM
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Just out of curiosity did you ever run into the rare scenario where the man called the shots? Anything you could put your finger on as to what made that couple/woman/man different from the rest? Or the ones where they were equal?
/r/MGTOW211/05/21 08:20 AM
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Women will stretch their budgets when emotion is involved and builders and designers know this. Just look at the bridal industry or baby industry. For me the goal is a small cabin on acreage with a nice barn for toys and leisure and maybe a loft with a bed.
/r/MGTOW211/05/21 08:13 AM
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Always obvious when school is out for the year
/r/MGTOW211/05/21 08:10 AM
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This is surprisingly easy to find as an older guy. Plenty of career women that need their independence the same way we do. The occasional divorcee that also sees marriage as a bad deal. You need to be prepared to disappear into thin air if your detect any bullshit. But, I'd be very leary if this with younger women, personally. I'm sure they're out there, but rare.
/r/MGTOW211/05/21 03:36 AM
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Creating demand through scarcity has always been a marketing strategy. Women aren't on Tiktok to find a date or sex - they want followers and attention. Being bisexual doubles your market and "influence."
/r/MGTOW211/05/21 01:46 AM
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There was a time when this would have qualified as the most insane shit I've ever heard. As an older man, this sadly is some of the tamer stuff I encountered over the years. But yeah save your messages and delete her from your life FAST.
/r/MGTOW211/05/21 12:14 AM
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I think its a big mistake to flaunt any of that to anyone even if you do have it. "Hey rob me!" Be it an actual robber or a gold digging robber...but guys still do it cause they know bait attracts the fish. I like my anonymity more than ever as a MGTOW, but hey.
/r/MGTOW210/05/21 09:04 PM
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They are the mothership when it comes to bluepilled men. Do yourself a favor and never talk or mention politics in your workplace or among coworkers EVER. That shit can follow you around and woke culture is just crawling over themselves to find another victim. Lastly- those jobs pay twice as much but you'll be working twice as long and in a COL city that costs 3 times as much - maybe a good pitstop to build your resume, but IMO they are sweat shops for suckers.
/r/MGTOW210/05/21 08:27 PM
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38-45ish is far better for a man who is in decent shape than in his 20s. Maturity, confidence, and success hasn't happened yet (for most) and that makes all the difference.
/r/MGTOW210/05/21 08:21 PM
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Couldn't agree more with this. A guy with status, money, and looks is at the top of the desirability chain - typically with a long line of attractive women hoping to get a shot. There's less of them than there is attractive women. Simple math.
/r/MGTOW210/05/21 08:19 PM
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It's just as bad on this very site. The nude young women who get constantly voted to the front page are absolutely nothing special to look at with rare exception. Almost feels like they are paying to be promoted/upvoted by bots, which is suspect they are.
/r/MGTOW210/05/21 07:05 PM
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Why should either party have to subject themselves to a hostile and abusive argument? Sometimes people don't relent and will keep arguing and yelling and fighting trying to use submission to suppress the other person. If you live together this can make aspects outside of your relationship living hell for days, weeks, and months on end. No thanks. More to the point - I was implying that people should have a place of their own to retreat to as in when they want to exit the relationship permanently…
/r/MGTOW209/05/21 11:32 PM
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You're not MGTOW if you have a woman living with you.
/r/MGTOW209/05/21 10:13 PM
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You aren't wrong at all. It definitely sobered me up. But I am fortunate enough to have friends and family all over the country as well as land in Texas and Tennessee that I bought cheap many years ago...so I won't be completely nomadic.. I'm gonna at least try to make it work until it becomes boring, too expensive, or too big of a pain in the ass. I've already lived a very non-conventional lifestyle so hoping to prove you wrong...but am the first to say you're probably right.
/r/MGTOW209/05/21 06:40 PM
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These are my favorite kinds of posts here
/r/MGTOW209/05/21 03:07 PM
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Nice - enjoy brother
/r/MGTOW209/05/21 12:07 AM
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So what are you waiting for?
/r/MGTOW208/05/21 11:49 PM
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Unfortunately MGTOW isn't something you can enlighten others on - you have to seek it IMO.
/r/MGTOW208/05/21 11:39 PM
4

So I am in my early 40s and on track to retire at 50. My plan is to buy an RV and travel the states on a low budget until I can withdraw from my retirement accounts. Between 50 and 59 1/2 I will allow my accounts to continue compounding and growing interest. I'm also working with my accountant so that I will be so poor in the eyes of the government that I will qualify for Medicaid which will cover my Healthcare. Look into this. Going for a Winnebego Travato and fitting it with a wireless Hotspot…
/r/MGTOW208/05/21 11:35 PM
1

I sometimes get shit when I talk about my friend who has 7 kids out of wedlock that he's had to pay child support on. The reality is he's so filthy rich it's a mere fraction of his income and they are his absolute world. He's one of those guys that would be lost without his kids. I say more power to him. Not for me, but he knows what he signed up for and is not a bluepiller.
/r/MGTOW208/05/21 06:42 PM
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In public, I tell people that I don't believe in cohabitation because I feel like people need a place of peace to retreat to if there is conflict. I say this in a peaceful tone. Amazing how many people actually agree with this if I put it in that context. If you say you are GYOW or anti-marriage watch out for the daggers. Good point you bring up.
/r/MGTOW208/05/21 06:38 PM
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Gamers (in general) are the main community simping for Onlyfans and female twitch streamers. Massive bluepill community of guys self imprisoning themselves in their room - pretty expected. I used to be heavily addicted to gaming in my teens and 20s but thankfully outgrew it when my career took priority. My social life and life in general improved dramatically after I ditched gaming. I still play a few hours a month, but thankfully none of the games keep my interest.
/r/MGTOW208/05/21 05:51 PM
1

Hear, hear!!
/r/MGTOW208/05/21 05:24 PM
2

Especially after a divorce with lots of nonsensical arguing and yelling...
/r/MGTOW208/05/21 05:21 PM
4

Wrong sub.
/r/MGTOW207/05/21 08:54 PM
6

That "dirtiest thing human being can possibly do" is also the most important thing a human can do. With that said - a vast majority of those women have been victims of sexual abuse their entire life and are hypersexual and have a warped view on sex and love. Also come from poor families with absent parents - quick cash is intoxicating esp with a drug habit that they fall victim to by abusive bf/pimps. This world is difficult.
/r/MGTOW207/05/21 06:56 PM
6

I go out and chat up, socialize, and flirt with women all the time. I've even had a few FWB over the years. But, I am brutally honest from the get go that I will never be their boyfriend and if I get any hint of games or emotional investment from them I cut and run. No marriage and no cohabitation are the only sacred rules here. Go your own way.
/r/MGTOW207/05/21 01:51 AM
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I agree with it for the most part. Spending your time dwelling on someone that doesn't want to be with you or spending time wishing someone that doesn't want to be with you anymore is a big waste of time. Use that time to improve yourself. My issue is that "living your best life" is kinda cringe.
/r/MGTOW206/05/21 08:22 PM
1

I supported my wife for 7 years while she built her career. As soon as she started making good money she bailed.
/r/MGTOW206/05/21 04:36 PM
15

He's an idiot when it comes to women. Watch that sucker get married again.
/r/MGTOW206/05/21 04:27 PM
1

This - I slept in my car for a week while I found an apartment.
/r/MGTOW206/05/21 04:17 PM
2

Life is short and this is a textbook abusive relationship. Get the hell out. And as for her going psycho? Tell her you're getting your stuff and leaving and if she gets in the way or raises her voice you'll be calling the police and that you are absolutely not joking about it. Then you get your shit, leave, and go COMPLETELY 100% no contact. Delete her from phone, social media, etc. This woman can't ever be near your kids for their safety so whats the point? Go.
/r/MGTOW206/05/21 04:13 PM
1

This isn't the exact article, but there's tons of research that suggests that it may be biological. Not denying their are other reasons, but genetic genetic diversity and biology drive human behavior more than we'd care to admit.
/r/MGTOW206/05/21 01:54 PM
1

You could look at a puppy and see sharp teeth and call it a vicious beast, but it's just a puppy. You could come here and see sexism...others see it as a resource for understanding. Perception is subjective.
/r/MGTOW206/05/21 12:16 AM
1

We get this post at least a few times a week. I agree with your point to an extent, but people here are in all different stages of grieving and recovery from situations in their life. They're also in different stages of coming to understand something that they've been told their whole lives was completely different. This is a perfectly good place to talk about those things as long as it doesn't devolve into blatant bashing IMO. Also, this sub is not about abstaining from women, although many her…
/r/MGTOW206/05/21 12:02 AM
6

I chuck money at the tables once a year but it's because I'm MGTOW and it's just a little entertainment and I have some money that I can afford to lose since I'm not married with kids. A casino, in moderation, is leagues beyond dating/gf/marriage, to be fair...but got your point loud and clear!
/r/MGTOW205/05/21 06:43 PM
3

There's also a biological reason that I don't think gets mentioned enough. I don't have a source, but think I saw it linked on this very site where women lose sexual interest in their partner after the 2nd kid generally which is about that 5 year mark. The biological reason is she has achieved the purpose of reproduction with one man and now going to another man will spread her genes better than staying with one man. And we see this irregardless of marriage - even moms who don't marry move on af…
/r/MGTOW205/05/21 06:41 PM
1

The best advice that I received and followed was to keep your living expenses low as your income goes up. I'm in my 40s and make good money, but live like a college student. Money piles up effortlessly, but it took a long time and hard work to get there.
/r/MGTOW205/05/21 02:41 PM
1

Well, if you're talking the 18-24 year old women crowd I would totally agree with you. But there's tons of women in the 25-35 range that are attracted to older men who are decent looking and in good shape and have a job. If you possess those 3 qualities you have separated yourself quite a bit from the pack. It isnt a daddy thing. Younger guys are typically a bit more obnoxious and less calm and that can be a turn off for women who mature faster.. The beauty of the 38-43 range is you attract some…
/r/MGTOW205/05/21 01:39 PM
4

The "I can't critically think on my own" response. Grow up.
/r/MGTOW204/05/21 10:40 PM
1

Most guys your age arent undesirable because they haven't developed much that is considered desirable. Confidence, wealth, stability, competence, maturity, etc. That comes with age and our value goes up with time until the roles completely reverse. 38-43 is a kid in a candy store sweet spot. Be patient. Of course once you get it and experience it you swallow that big red pill and if you're smart go your own way.
/r/MGTOW204/05/21 10:36 PM
2

All the virtue signaling and attention while subs on this site do that. Pretty cringe, but so is that entire sub.
/r/MGTOW204/05/21 10:33 PM
8

Wrong sub, but most likely she's seeking attention and validation from you while hoping another dude she's interested in stops having sex with other girls long enough to give her a few rounds. If those plans fall through she still has you as the safer, but less exciting backup. I'm old and one thing I know is that if a girl is into you they make time and show you you are #1. Anything short of that and they're just using you or not interested.
/r/MGTOW204/05/21 07:57 AM
1

The amount of women who wrote their own music is short. The amount that wrote and produced is even shorter.
/r/MGTOW203/05/21 01:27 AM
3

The more you own the more it owns you. Even if you're rich as hell, owning a bunch of stuff means having to protect and maintain all said things - that isn't freedom. I'll also never forget them bringing a dumpster to my grandma's house after she died. All her worldly possessions hauled away to the landfill like it never mattered.
/r/MGTOW201/05/21 02:08 AM
15

It's hard to find a celebrity that has any sense of reality in any of the subject areas.
/r/MGTOW201/05/21 12:42 AM
3

IMO - when your relationship hits "maintenance sex" mode it's doomed for all, but a rare set of couples. Modern society has made our primal nature more accessible.
/r/MGTOW230/04/21 10:56 PM
2

Technology has slowly locked most young men in their rooms.
/r/MGTOW230/04/21 05:37 PM
1

I think parents and culture shape peoples behavior more than anything else. Individuals will adopt or discard between the two what they deem better for themselves.
/r/MGTOW228/04/21 10:10 PM
2

I stopped looking at my bank account when I was married because it was pointless. No matter how much I made we spent it all.
/r/MGTOW228/04/21 09:59 PM
10

Online dating is the clearance rack of women.
/r/MGTOW225/04/21 10:39 PM
2

I got divorced 5 years ago. An endless vacation ever since.
/r/MGTOW225/04/21 09:06 PM
1

Sit down and have a conversation with them. That's it. "Consultation"
/r/MGTOW225/04/21 04:35 AM
5

I dont have any good advice, but put more focus on yourself and stop concerning yourself with things that are so far out of your control.
/r/MGTOW225/04/21 01:45 AM
5

The other poster is correct though. Get a lawyer ASAP - talk to the best in town. In most states even if you talk to a lawyer then your wife cant use that lawyer. This is a smart tactic to "block" your wife from using the best lawyers in your city against you. Sad, but true - the last to act in divorce usually comes out worse than if they had acted first. Guard your assets and be prepared to move fast at all times
/r/MGTOW225/04/21 12:52 AM
2

Reminds me- I need to use my wok more often. Do a pretty good orange beef stir fry
/r/MGTOW224/04/21 08:34 PM
2

Some people learn from their past mistakes and choose more compatible partners. But to play Devil's advocate - it's only been 2 years and that's still in the honeymoon zone for a lot of couples. 10 years is a world away from 2.
/r/MGTOW221/04/21 08:52 PM
1

This is the number 1 reason I will never marry or live with a woman again. When people's needs aren't being met for any length of time they need to have the ability to exit without a lot of loss or drama. Marriage and living together makes it way too difficult to split for both parties involved. We need to be able to GTFO when stuff like this happens for more than a few months. Life is short and this type of a relationship is unhealthy and a total mindfuck.
/r/MGTOW221/04/21 08:44 PM
3

The way she talks about her ex husband is even more concerning. Maybe not the best guy, sure, but I don't talk about my ex with such blanket name calling and she had an affair on me!
/r/MGTOW231/03/21 02:35 PM
1

Long range target shooting
/r/MGTOW230/03/21 04:52 PM
6

It's not rocket science - don't marry, don't live together. Simple.
/r/MGTOW230/03/21 01:29 AM
1

Because it's an interesting topic and I like self improvement
/r/MGTOW230/03/21 12:44 AM
2

Single guys are having more fun than a married man carrying out his prison sentence.
/r/MGTOW230/03/21 12:41 AM
6

I let women know up front I'm only interested in keeping things real casual and have zero interest in ever dating, living together, or marriage. Surprisingly there are still women who want to hang out and the sex is great and the communication honest because there are no expectations.
/r/MGTOW230/03/21 12:39 AM
6

Divorce and go on your endless vacation.
/r/MGTOW230/03/21 12:36 AM
2

If nothing else it helps you get a feel for what is out there. I got into a better high paying job simply because it fell into my lap on Linkedin. I wasn't looking but this was too good to pass up.
/r/MGTOW229/03/21 01:24 AM
3

I'm in that field so yes.
/r/MGTOW228/03/21 06:02 PM
2

They have privacy settings that you can make extremely strict too so maybe go that route, but if you're a professional it's almost mandatory in some fields these days. I hate saying that but that's the truth.
/r/MGTOW228/03/21 05:59 PM
2

I don't show my resume at all. I just use it to search for and apply for specific jobs. If its something I'm interested in then I will attach and send my resume to that specific job only. I have a pretty expansive "profile" with all my job history, but the resume with every little detail only goes to the specific job. I don't like being so exposed, but I'm proud of my career and its pretty clean so I am okay with putting that out there a bit. But yeah.
/r/MGTOW228/03/21 05:38 PM
5

You know how on some websites you can login/join via Google or Facebook? I just wouldn't want to use anything that can tie me to my social media (I don't use it just warning for those that do) for the reasons I listed.
/r/MGTOW228/03/21 05:31 PM
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Men have created one of the most advanced and safe societies humans have ever known. It's not perfect, but women have it better now than at any other time. And most of the reasons why women can live relatively independently have all been inventions of men. Tampons and the pill were the work of men and male scientists despite modern feminism trying to change that narrative. Also, who has fought all the wars necessary to advance our societies and keep peace? Who works the dangerous jobs? Who has h…
/r/MGTOW228/03/21 05:29 PM
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It got me my most recent job and keeping me connected to prior contacts is key for my career. It is becoming the job seeker's primary tool. My opinion is to use it, but use it carefully. Use an email separate from your personal email. Don't link it via any other social media outlet (Facebook, Google, etc). And NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, EVER post anything on your "wall" or comment on anything. Keep all opinions out of it and your privacy settings where you feel comfortable. Cancel culture is fickle an…
/r/MGTOW228/03/21 05:17 PM
1

Fuck pants
/r/MGTOW228/03/21 07:07 AM
1

Bartenders are cheaper than a psychiatrist and more effective
/r/MGTOW228/03/21 12:21 AM
1

Was she after a green card or something? Whole thing doesn't add up and sounds fishy as hell.
/r/MGTOW228/03/21 12:18 AM
3

It worked really well for me, but wasn't sustainable. Month 4 was so irritable and also lost muscle mass. Pass.
/r/MGTOW227/03/21 04:24 PM
2

You're still really young and have tons of time. I didn't lose my virginity until I was like 22 or 23. Was saving myself for someone special, but looking back I'm glad because when I started having sex there is always a constant paranoia of getting the girl pregnant. Even being safe stuff happens all the time and having that worry over my head as a teenager would have been pure hell. You are young and have tons of time. Women truly are like bus stops - one will be around the corner before long. …
/r/MGTOW226/03/21 10:00 PM
5

Always performed the housework, cooking and taking care of the kids without complaining until about five years ago where she not only started resenting but constantly complaining and or yelling that I'm not doing anything around the house The constant complaining and criticism was the beginning of the end for my marriage. I think this is her way of pushing you away and creating a rift in the marriage so that when a new guy who comes around that she takes an interest in - she'll be fully justifie…
/r/MGTOW226/03/21 08:21 PM
3

Facts don't lie
/r/MGTOW226/03/21 05:25 AM
6

Riding is ultimate freedom
/r/MGTOW226/03/21 04:52 AM
12

I'm divorced and have a FWB situation, but would rather be an incel than someone so bored in their life that they've resorted to trolling random subs. I'd say that's far more pathetic than an incel, IMO.
/r/MGTOW225/03/21 10:33 PM
12

Imagine wanting to be a beta or alpha. Labels for a game that shouldn't even be played. Slot machines have a better payout.
/r/MGTOW225/03/21 03:21 AM
1

I love the 938...prefer it over the RAMI!
/r/MGTOW224/03/21 03:04 AM
1

Good attitude! Yeah, love my CZ's...wish I could have some more!
/r/MGTOW224/03/21 02:33 AM
1

Waste of a day? Sounds like you're learning and improving from "not happy fix it" to "awesome perfect!" Also learned how to do a lap joint overhead. I dont know how to do one of those or any of the other stuff you now know how to do. You're making yourself more valuable and can't even see it. Keep going dude! Vent here if you need but you sound like you got the balls to make it. Keep going.
/r/MGTOW224/03/21 02:26 AM
3

This is so true. The complicated, difficult, and boring stuff pays well because not many stick with it.
/r/MGTOW224/03/21 02:07 AM
2

Now while things are still cheap
/r/MGTOW224/03/21 01:58 AM
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Everyone sucks at their job/career when they first start out and welding is no exception. The whole point of going to community college is because you don't know how to do something, but are in the process of learning. I would try your damnedest to stick with it and learn to overcome your failures. Keep moving forward. Put in extra hours learning your craft - lean on your teacher more. But don't be a quitter. Chin up my guy! Truly sorry you're feeling down, but sometimes it takes some people lon…
/r/MGTOW224/03/21 01:42 AM
2

You bring up a good point, but short of an end of the world scenario, this man will never not have the money. He gets 50k a month for the rest of his life type of rich if you get me. But again- you bring up a good and valid cautionary point.
/r/MGTOW223/03/21 09:11 PM
1

I have a rich friend who has something like 7 kids out of wedlock. Great dad and happy as hell. He doesn't even blink at the child support he has to shell out - it's a fraction of his income and he would be truly lost without his children. So I tend to agree with OP, but I think it can depend.
/r/MGTOW223/03/21 05:47 PM
2

Specialized data and analytics stuff
/r/MGTOW223/03/21 04:50 AM
-1

Shhhh! Columbia is what SE Asia used to be. Shhhhh! I do a mancation there once a quarter
/r/MGTOW223/03/21 04:39 AM
2

Divorce
/r/MGTOW223/03/21 04:27 AM
1

How much time do you have? Tons of options. Start in Miami and island hop down the Florida Keys. Northeast in the fall. Summers are good for Colorado or Alaska. A roadtrip along the California coast up through Oregon and Washington...stop at Vancouver on your way to Alaska. Hit Yellowstone right before summer or right after summer to avoid tourists, but still have some decent weather. Michigan and Upper Peninsula are amazing. Smokey Mountains. When I retire I'm going to buy an RV and just spend …
/r/MGTOW223/03/21 01:40 AM
2

I think seeing an abundance of sexual frustration here is probably more to do with you lurking for 2 weeks and seeing what you want to see. I agree with the other poster, I simply don't see it. I also don't see a lot of women bashing here. Lots of positivity and self improvement vibes is what I get. Its the odd commenter promoting nofap/no sex, not the norm.
/r/MGTOW222/03/21 10:47 PM
5

I was a consultant for while, then an independent contractor with my own business setup (LLC), and then for a while had a few subcontractors under me that I brought in to help out. I was bringing in north of a quarter of a million dollars at my peak (which is way more than I ever hoped to make). Was a rewarding and fun time of my life. But I was a workaholic and I had money, but no life. It aged me too. I, by choice, left that life about 10 years ago and am now in a comfy government/state/univer…
/r/MGTOW222/03/21 10:41 PM
50

Shit...this is a guy who can bluff someone off of pocket aces
/r/MGTOW221/03/21 11:29 PM
17

I got divorced. Every day has felt like a vacation since. No regrets.
/r/MGTOW221/03/21 07:45 PM
8

I got older.
/r/MGTOW220/03/21 10:55 PM
2

This is a good shower thought. Definitely true.
/r/MGTOW219/03/21 09:37 PM
4

Have you seen the video on the hot crazy matrix? Comical, interesting, and sorta dead on
/r/MGTOW219/03/21 07:24 PM
9

Experience. I went through a number of relationships and ultimately a marriage until it was finally beat into my head. As much as it sucks to say or admit, it took me going through the emotional ringer a number of times before I finally decided the rewards weren't worth the sacrifices both emotionally and financially. For me personally, I stood back and analyzed my relationships. They were fun and everyone was having a good time for the first few years. But as things got more serious and the sta…
/r/MGTOW219/03/21 07:21 PM
2

I used to have the same thoughts when I was younger, but quickly realized putting down someone else just to make myself more secure was an extremely unhealthy outlook.
/r/MGTOW219/03/21 02:20 PM
1

Build your skills up in a leftist city and then go remote and live wherever you damn well please. Wyoming or Idaho has the mountains. Montana used to be good but is being infiltrated by money that worships glamour.
/r/MGTOW219/03/21 03:05 AM
3

Just go about your life, but keep the door open. You don't need to go out of your way for people who aren't reciprocal, but you also don't need to burn any bridges either. I was probably that bad friend during my marriage because I was too busy tending to that dumpster fire. I'm thankful some people let me back in down the road. I give people the same courtesy these days.
/r/MGTOW218/03/21 11:39 PM
5

I mean, just look at some of the quality of the naked women that this site votes to the front page of /all.
/r/MGTOW218/03/21 01:14 PM
2

I got divorced at 35, am lower 40s. Will be retiring at 50. I make a good living, but it's nothing special either. Just saying, it can be done if you are willing to make some sacrifices.
/r/MGTOW218/03/21 01:55 AM
9

Tinder is the clearance rack of women, mainly.
/r/MGTOW216/03/21 06:01 PM
10

Incel, by definition, is a farce. Any guy can find a woman to sleep with him so long as he has the resources. The idea that you can obtain sex for a mere few dollars makes the concept almost laughably vapid.
/r/MGTOW216/03/21 12:51 AM
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There's a reason why those indigenous people had segregated genders and it has worked for survival since the dawn of man. Men go out on hunts and women cook and take care of the children. Even when both genders are in camp they stick to their own gender groups. Only time they mingled was at night when procreation mattered. The rest of the time they stuck among their own gender. Modern society isn't as smart as we'd like to think we are.
/r/MGTOW215/03/21 09:24 PM
13

She'll find one, trust me.
/r/MGTOW215/03/21 04:59 PM
1

Jordan Peterson gets a lot of hate here and rightfully so. But his advice on seeking responsibility to find meaning in life is sound advice.
/r/MGTOW215/03/21 02:26 AM
21

I have a lot of experience with this. Do NOT take it personal. People go through different stages of their lives and some will reach back out and some won't. People get busy. If you've texted them the ball is in their court. No need to delete their number but I'd stop texting until they text back. Word of caution...few will reach out again. Later in life feel free to reach out as friendly hello if you like - people will be happy to hear from you, but again, don't expect too much to come from it …
/r/MGTOW215/03/21 02:23 AM
3

Most of the successful men I know do. They are typically smarter than the average man.. Most of these guys are obsessed with their careers and work so marriage is just another accomplishment/goal on the list. Think more like a checkbox on their to-do list. Oddly enough, all of them are still married. I think a big reason is they married other career/income oriented women versus the pass around club girls or single moms so both have a stake in the marriage and finances. I don't think all are perf…
/r/MGTOW215/03/21 02:15 AM
2

You could have just said single mother
/r/MGTOW215/03/21 12:19 AM
18

This philosophy and movement is uniting us all as brothers regardless of race, language, looks, etc. No wonder this scares some. A united people can't be exploited as easily.
/r/MGTOW214/03/21 05:03 PM
1

There's still a lot of "male improvement" talk on here that I find real educational and enjoyable. Moving towards that might help provide more structure to your life. And there's lots here who didn't have to learn the hard way via divorce/bad relationship. Having some insight into the true nature of women and relationships in modern society might lead to more acceptance of your current situation, but that's not for me to decide. Good luck my dude.
/r/MGTOW212/03/21 09:30 PM
7

I've had a long term relationship with a FWB who doesn't want anything other than the occasional hanging out and romp in the bedroom. Check their mail if they're out of town and no one else can do it. But yeah for me, definitely no cohabitation and no marriage. I think long term relationships are risky, though so agree best to avoid. Being older is probably the only reason both of us are okay with this.
/r/MGTOW212/03/21 09:01 PM
2

MGTOW isn't really for men that can't get women. It's for men that don't want to live with or marry a woman for a huge variety of good reasons. No more complicated than that.
/r/MGTOW212/03/21 08:58 PM
13

Its pretty easy, actually. Low class living on a middle to upper class income. Access to tax shelters is important for my situation. Work in a university affiliated company so have access to not only a 401k, but also a 457b and 403b which I can also contribute to. I am at my limit every year on the 401k and about halfway on my other accounts - I get a 3% merit increase every year so I automatically increase my 457 and 403 contributions by a % every year and I never know it went missing, but my a…
/r/MGTOW212/03/21 03:01 AM
7

Either a troll or could be very mentally ill. Or both.
/r/MGTOW211/03/21 10:07 PM
1

They are exploiting blue pillers and scoring some dates and occasional sex with women who are just as shallow as they are. That's it. I think the PUA movement is killing itself off due to oversaturation and the idea that most of the head games (because that's what they are) is common knowledge now across both sexes as time moves on. I don't think you can get any more SIMP than dedicating as much thought and time to picking up a small subset of women = not only are you wasting your time on this s…
/r/MGTOW211/03/21 09:09 PM
6

We are hellbent on killing ourselves off and it isn't going to come in the form of some global catastrophe - it will be stuff like this that will make procreation on a large scale so difficult that people stop giving a damn. Social engineering is already taking its toll on Japan. The rest of the world will be right behind it.
/r/MGTOW211/03/21 08:59 PM
7

I gave you the most practical advice imaginable - stop contacting someone that no longer wants to be with you. Move on and start improving yourself instead of waiting for someone else to come and adopt a lonely person to uplift. Ain't going to happen. You gotta be the catalyst for change. I can truly see why you are lonely the way you talk to others. Best of luck to you.
/r/MGTOW211/03/21 08:39 PM
10

I am definitely not on your side - you are being a rude person and I'm calling you on it. People, including women, don't like rude people.
/r/MGTOW211/03/21 08:37 PM
6

You could start by not going up to random strangers that are having a conversation and interrupting them. They don't sense weakness - they sense rudeness. And telling them they are cute is unoriginal because they hear it all the time and unless it's someone they desire it goes on deaf ears. You have done nothing to make yourself desirable up to this point so your compliment is meaningless. Going up to random women is pretty creepy in general - most people want to be social on their time not some…
/r/MGTOW211/03/21 08:32 PM
6

What is it that I really need right now and in the future? You need to stop contacting her completely. Delete her number, delete her email, remove her from social media. Find new responsibilities and purpose in your life besides waiting for others to provide you with happiness and meaning. I don't want to sound insensitive, but the world is tough and it tramples all over weak people - especially weak men and I'm not talking physically - I'm talking emotionally and mentally. Its time to get tough…
/r/MGTOW211/03/21 08:29 PM
2

WV has better gun laws and probably cheaper land
/r/MGTOW210/03/21 03:17 AM
38

People generally leave you alone after you've gone through a divorce - especially if you are older.
/r/MGTOW209/03/21 10:40 PM
1

We should have some future wars fought by women only. How selfish of us to steal the limelight.
/r/MGTOW209/03/21 02:05 AM
5

About as cringe as it gets...trying so hard to reinvent history and society...it will fail in the end just hope there is something left worth saving
/r/MGTOW209/03/21 12:59 AM
1

Movies, culture, society mainly...
/r/MGTOW206/03/21 04:45 AM
1

Curves != obese. I like women that have some T & A instead of a stick. But you do you and go your own way.
/r/MGTOW205/03/21 07:33 PM
2

I actually like women with curves so I'm okay if they have some weight on them if it's in the right places...but I definitely don't want a woman with rolls or fat hanging - thats definitely not my cup of tea.
/r/MGTOW205/03/21 06:58 PM
1

Here you go
/r/MGTOW205/03/21 05:44 PM
9

Taking advantage of desperate men the same way women have been since the dawn of man. But they are saturating the market with pussy. Value is at an all time low and I don't think it ends well for society.
/r/MGTOW205/03/21 05:17 PM
7

You don't want to see it my dude.
/r/MGTOW205/03/21 05:14 PM
6

Woman takes all his money Woman takes his house Woman is collecting alimony from a man despite her living with and being supported by a new man Woman takes away his kids and now he can only see them on the weekends despite being a good dad Woman accuses the man of physical abuse Woman accuses the man of rape Woman cheats on the man Woman calls his work Society: She was so brave for leaving him! He is trash and she deserves so much better than being with that misogynist. Also Society: Why is he p…
/r/MGTOW205/03/21 05:07 PM
2

We are taught that "getting the girl" is the ultimate achievement in life and having sex with said girl is heaven on earth and we should be eternal grateful that she spread her legs for us. Sex got easier the past few decades and with the help of social media we've figured out its a wizard behind the curtain scenario.
/r/MGTOW205/03/21 03:41 PM
4

I'm in healthcare analytics. It has been a rewarding career and I don't just mean financially. If I were 18 again today, what field would I go into? Good question. People say "do what you love" and that's really misguided advice. You want to enjoy what you do because it will be a big part of your life, but guess what? You also need to be able to pay your bills and realize living is expensive. So with that said - having a programming, analytical, and logic based skillset is the way of the future.…
/r/MGTOW204/03/21 06:39 PM
8

MGTOW red pilled me in all forms of life, not just women and relationships. You can use these red pills to a massive advantage financially as well. I realized instead of living a middle class life on a middle class income, I can live a very low class life on a middle class income and use the excess money to go to work for me making me more money. This, over time, has now allowed me to traverse income levels that will put me at the very top of the totem poll as I get older. I initially just wante…
/r/MGTOW204/03/21 05:30 PM
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Trust me - from now on, stop engaging these lunatics. Ignore, block, move on with your life. How are you letting some idiot get you so worked up? Social media isn't helping either - ditch that stupid shit - it gives idiots like this woman a platform to vent her plethora of problems onto targets such as yourself.
/r/MGTOW204/03/21 08:51 AM
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Squints eyes Oh lifetime...big surprise. And yeah I was married to the same type. Gave her basically everything she dreamed of and then turned into someone that did nothing but criticize me. So odd. Glad those crazy days are over.
/r/MGTOW204/03/21 07:29 AM
5

To come here, read your post, and say "Happy Cake Day!"
/r/MGTOW204/03/21 07:26 AM
13

I applaud the marketing. Exploiting the very nature that this sub knows exists among women.
/r/MGTOW204/03/21 07:26 AM
7

You say you don't mind being by yourself so that's good. What, specifically, would you say you'd like help on improving in terms of mental health? What is your ailment?
/r/MGTOW204/03/21 01:32 AM
14

There's a reason why you see these indigenous tribes that have had little contact with modern civilizations setup with strict separation of the sexes. Men go out on long hunting trips while the women stay back and take care of the kids and cook. Only time the sexes got together is at night for short periods of time. They knew a long time ago that it was better that way. We aren't as evolved and smart as we'd like to think.
/r/MGTOW204/03/21 01:28 AM
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Black and blue pilled men and women hate coming in here and seeing us celebrate our happiness. And they hate seeing people improve their lives as theirs is stuck in the mud. Human nature.
/r/MGTOW204/03/21 01:22 AM
5

Fresh take :) We don't wish for luck with women here because we are focused on improving and making our own lives better with new found absence of women in them! But thanks for taking the time to project.
/r/MGTOW204/03/21 01:06 AM
1

Seems like free money. Is it possible for a SPAC to drop below its base price?
/r/MGTOW203/03/21 10:15 PM
1

Any you would recommend?
/r/MGTOW203/03/21 09:25 PM
1

Above all, you are going YOUR own way so do whatever the hell you like. As for me? Moderation is my answer for most things in my own life. I find benefit in having a little buildup - better at work, more alert, better workouts, more focused and less lazy thoughts and actions. But no fap for months on end? Nah - there's a point where it converts from a benefit to torture and I'm not down with that.
/r/MGTOW203/03/21 06:36 PM
1

My career path and income is eerily similar to yours. Get it out of your head that you're going to be wealthy immediately on your income. You are doing great, but you need to start getting smart if you want to build wealth. Right now you are letting Uncle Sam bend you over and have his way with you. Time to get smart and start fighting back. Don't let him get any more of your hard earned money than he is entitled to. Rich/wealthy people got that way and stay that way because they have figured ou…
/r/MGTOW203/03/21 05:58 PM
2

I see these middle aged cave women around my neighborhood. They walk their dog(s) twice a day in their pajamas and that's about the only time they ever leave their homes. Many living off their dad or ex-husband's money. Careers, world travelers, robust social lives, healthy? A small, microscopic portion of women. That was definitely written out of some woman's fantasy.
/r/MGTOW203/03/21 05:39 PM
8

Masculine jobs are disappearing- the need for muscle and masculine traits are reducing the need for testosterone
/r/MGTOW221/02/21 08:16 AM
2

Thanks - glad you got the reference. Was told I was a racist based on my name by another user just because they saw the "master race" - LOL. I have a PCR and a 97 BD. Would love to add a shadow someday...among a million other different guns I wish I had :)
/r/MGTOW218/02/21 08:42 PM
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No, but I had the opposite situation growing up. My mom was one of the rare unicorns so I assumed all women were like her. Got out into the real world and talk about a correction.
/r/MGTOW218/02/21 02:22 AM
1

I'm just throwing out ideas more than giving instructions. "You do you" is a great motto I have for cooking. As for grinding up my own ribeye. Note that I said it was CHOICE ribeye when they go ON SALE. Which means I can grind up my own meat for less than the cost of ground beef/chuck and I KNOW exactly what is IN my meat and can also control the % of fat which I also find key. And trust me if you cube up a ribeye vs the stew meat - it's not even in the same ballpark in terms of flavor and textu…
/r/MGTOW218/02/21 02:12 AM
5

This looks like an awesome recipe. I've been recently getting into using the dried chili peppers that you rehydrate and grind up versus the powder. Or just use the fresh peppers and skip the rehydration and powder completely! I'd recommend looking into this as a next step for experimentation. Experimenting with all the different type of chili peppers is fun. I can tell by your ingredients that this has some serious heat to it which I welcome. I'd also recommend maybe experimenting with beer and …
/r/MGTOW218/02/21 01:01 AM
2

If you're constantly victimizing yourself then nothing is your own fault. It's a lack of responsibility that drives this. Coping mechanism.
/r/MGTOW217/02/21 07:26 PM
5

I disagree - the orignal sub seems a little too focused on rage against women. This sub is more about how to live and improve areas of your life and celebrate those steps. Calm after the storm dies down.
/r/MGTOW217/02/21 06:47 PM
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I think you're putting this sub into too narrow of a box. Many of us are just here bored at work trying to help out other men finding their path or just enjoying the celebration of being a single male in a world where they are generally neglected. Main reason I come here is to see the success stories and discover new hobbies. Your analogies are a little off base. You can watch Hell's Kitchen and not be a chef.
/r/MGTOW217/02/21 06:45 PM
1

Princess Bride is actually a major red pill movie looking back.
/r/MGTOW217/02/21 08:11 AM
2

Advice? Don't waste your time and energy
/r/MGTOW215/02/21 06:24 PM
1

There's probably a ton of different factors. Frequency combined with other health related topics - generally men gain weight and become less active so their blood circulation overall takes a dive. But my doc said the data is pretty clear that they are seeing more instances of ED in younger men than they did a few decades ago. Of course, maybe more men are talking about it so they can get that blue pill prescription? Who knows.
/r/MGTOW215/02/21 02:46 AM
0

Masterbating is fine. If you rely on porn to get off though I think you can develop some longterm problems. ED among young men is increasing and I believe this has something to do with it.
/r/MGTOW214/02/21 08:04 PM
6

I have the same setup, but we consider ourselves FWB vs GF/BF but it's the same thing. We are both older and like our own space.
/r/MGTOW214/02/21 05:11 PM
10

You can be extremely assertive and blunt without being an asshole.
/r/MGTOW214/02/21 05:09 PM
1

truth there
/r/MGTOW214/02/21 04:44 AM
4

People that talk about themselves and don't listen to others is a sure path to being a loner. We've all met the type that as soon as you try to talk they immediately try to redirect the conversation back to themselves. Annoying - don't be this person.
/r/MGTOW213/02/21 12:13 AM
2

The only person making worst decisions in life than her is the guy who swipes right on that
/r/MGTOW212/02/21 08:05 PM
14

I'm less concerned with the leftism and more concerned with people's lack of independent thinking. Group think is popular because it's lazy and doesn't actually force you to think.
/r/MGTOW211/02/21 08:05 PM
3

We take greater risks than women. Innovation and progress would stagnate as they focus on different things.
/r/MGTOW210/02/21 12:51 AM
3

Get together with other like minded dads and create your own programs in your local community. Boy Scouts was great, but also was slowly becoming an outdated model that needed revamped anyways. I know cancel culture is stealing everything, but that's no excuse to not keep reinventing new programs and new areas of culture.
/r/MGTOW208/02/21 11:18 PM
3

During a pandemic the best skill you can focus on is cooking. It's not difficult to get into if you haven't already. If you're already a decent cook then look into new methods. Smoking meats in a smoker, slow cookers, insta pots, sous vide, air frying, new cuisines. Outside of that I spend a lot of time devoted to long range target shooting and I'm also starting to do research on RV living since I want to spend the first part of my early retirement driving around the US and exploring all the sta…
/r/MGTOW208/02/21 11:15 PM
8

I'd like to know the history too. My understanding is that MGTOW is more of the "rage against women" sub and MGTOW2 is more about self improvement and the stages after your initial rage has died out and you are now focused on moving forward and no longer harbor the hate you had after your initial breakup or being rejected.
/r/MGTOW208/02/21 06:06 PM
2

No - testosterone is the best perks of being a male. It drives us to accomplish the amazing things men have created and done over the history of mankind. Why would I want to get rid of that? Easier ways to control your sexual desires that don't mess up your health.
/r/MGTOW208/02/21 04:33 AM
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I don't think women define who an alpha male is. If you sit back and observe men hanging around other men you can figure out who is the natural leader and who isn't. And its typically not the guy you might expect based on appearance. And anyone trying to be an alpha male isn't one. And the guys who base their "alpha-ness" on female attraction are insecure and manipulative. Pick up artist types come to mind - I can't say I've ever seen one of the pick up artist type of guys who other guys would a…
/r/MGTOW208/02/21 04:30 AM
2

Reinvent your life. Drastic change might be needed. Move states/countries. Live in the north and sit around eating burgers and playing video games? Move to somewhere tropical, unplug yourself from electronics, and work as a deck hand or some dive restaurant. Easy to fall into our routine- you need to escape it.
/r/MGTOW207/02/21 10:02 PM
1

That whole sub feels like a giant collective LARP - we all know they are all womem rejected by society blowing up eachother's skirts
/r/MGTOW206/02/21 03:27 AM
7

They've invaded just about every other corner that used to be for men only. I don't mind a question here or there but the topic is MEN going their own way - not women talking about men going their own way.
/r/MGTOW206/02/21 12:50 AM
8

Almost everything you read these days is fake news playing into the hands of gullible readers. There is a reason you still see tabloids in the supermarket isles these days- because they sell and people eat that shit up. There is no moral code in journalism anymore - just be the first to break a story - verify later. Who cares who it hurts. I domt belive anything anymore until I hear the result of legal action.
/r/MGTOW204/02/21 04:58 PM
5

After I moved out and realized I didn't have to "check in" or tell anybody where I was going or what I was doing. About as liberating as it gets my friends. Also watching money that was previously being drained every month grow into a huge pile not long after separating.
/r/MGTOW203/02/21 09:18 PM
16

Making friends is more difficult than people think and it gets harder the older you get. The good news is most guys as they age move towards less and less socialization and the need for people and friendships in their life as a constant tends to wane. Obviously, everybody is different, but anecdotally this seems to be my observation and mirrors my feelings as well. But, as cliche as it is to say, my opinion is to pursue hobbies, activities, and interests that you enjoy. Join a club with common i…
/r/MGTOW203/02/21 09:15 PM
5

Society reinforces their ideals of what is considered "right" or "wrong." It's a self fulfilling prophecy. It's why female genital mutilation is a continual thing and perpetuated not by men, but women. Right now, the SJW and feminist movements are being thrown at society full force and everyone is enforcing it as normal. It's actually fairly easy to manipulate society if you are the ones at the top pulling strings.
/r/MGTOW203/02/21 03:05 AM
5

Time
/r/MGTOW231/01/21 09:18 AM
25

We all die alone no matter what
/r/MGTOW230/01/21 03:43 AM
1

For me, the older I get the more benefits there are to being a male and going my own way. But the plan is to retire at 50 and spend 10 years traveling around the states via RV with some long term international travel mixed in. I will have enough money via passive income streams to comfortably live on from 50 until I can access my retirement accounts and start collecting social security. I have put quite a bit of my income every year into my retirement accounts and the years from 50-60ish is wher…
/r/MGTOW229/01/21 07:02 PM
2

This is so awesome - congrats on a fun and unique way of making some side cash!
/r/MGTOW229/01/21 08:20 AM
2

Money is a strange thing. It isn't to be worshipped. But it is absolutely important to survive, provide, and give yourself choices in life.
/r/MGTOW229/01/21 04:13 AM
5

I would guess that having a foundational knowledge in databases design/administration and reporting/analytics will serve you well in virtually any STEM field. It is here to stay and I see professions who traditionally were "non-IT" now merging into this field where they need to understand it even if it is at a high level. So, gaining some familiarity with it will most likely NOT be a waste of your time. With that said...my personal opinion is that it is something that you could absolutely learn …
/r/MGTOW229/01/21 02:19 AM
3

Yes - database/analytics work.
/r/MGTOW229/01/21 01:02 AM
7

I outsource my skills that I have for my daily job in a free lance manner on nights and weekends
/r/MGTOW228/01/21 08:09 PM
11

You're still nice, you're just no longer seduced by fiction
/r/MGTOW224/01/21 10:20 PM
2

That bit about finding a job where you can sit and study is a pretty damn good tip
/r/MGTOW223/01/21 07:52 PM
1

2 years community College, transfer into the best state school you can get into for your last 2 years. Work summers and part time throughout the year. I had maybe 12k of debt total that I had paid off within 5 years post graduation at an absurdly low interest rate
/r/MGTOW223/01/21 02:10 AM
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Shes just young and riding the cock carousel 🎠. Its just your turn because you are new and something she hasn't conquered. Probably out of options - who the hell would fall/be tricked into settling down and having kids with a woman who loves to swallow cum in front of a room full of dudes? Gross. There's 33k+ subscribers here and I'm willing to bet the vast majority ran into a little thing that has your eye and have all been completely deceived. She is no different. She will trample all over you…
/r/MGTOW222/01/21 04:16 AM
1

Assuming it will last forever - you could live off one spouse's income while saving/investing the other and retire real young.
/r/MGTOW221/01/21 07:15 AM
15

Neither party is on our side. Keep us at each other's throats and distracted while they do the bidding of their corporate masters and cronies who paid big money to get them in that position with the sole assumption that there will be kick backs.
/r/MGTOW220/01/21 05:51 PM
2

DOW, NASDAQ, and NYSE sure does lead to a lot more VRBO.
/r/MGTOW220/01/21 04:38 PM
8

No one else is going to be looking out for you so you better be the one to do it. If they see you happy being single and free - whats to argue?
/r/MGTOW217/01/21 07:52 PM
2

Age cures loneliness. Seriously. I was sad I didn't have a better social life in my 20s. At 40 I get almost annoyed when someone tries to enter my social circle. I attribute this to work. Once you enter the workforce your free time takes. A dramatic hit and barely have enough time for yourself let alone others.
/r/MGTOW217/01/21 06:10 PM
1

Theres just as many posts here talking about self improvement as there is about women unless you're viewing this sub through a biased lens. But, this philosophy is grounded on the true nature of modern women and modern society and its healthy to observe, analyze, and refine that.
/r/MGTOW217/01/21 03:05 AM
15

I stopped looking at my bank account when I was married because it was depressing and didn't matter because it was so pathetic despite my top 5% income. Now, I haven't looked at a grocery receipt in years. Fun.
/r/MGTOW217/01/21 02:50 AM
2

LOL - you need a study to determine this?!
/r/MGTOW217/01/21 02:49 AM
2

Do they have online dating apps in your country? Short of that - take up activities that women like. Hiking, rock climbing, volleyball, softball type of coed team stuff is where you go to meet women where I live. Bars used to be where you'd meet women 20-30 years ago but it has evolved to being more of a place to go versus a place you meet over the years.
/r/MGTOW217/01/21 02:48 AM
2

Huge issue with STDs down in The Villages in Florida.
/r/MGTOW217/01/21 01:04 AM
6

Avoid debt and try to live well below your means. Avoid financial purchases that require reoccurring payments as best you can because that will help you avoid debt. Put way more away for retirement than the average person does. Make sure you really, really want to have children because that's a decision that you can't take back. Pursue your dreams without waiver. But by far my biggest advice is to not hold grudges towards people - that is definitely one of the most toxic things I can say has pla…
/r/MGTOW216/01/21 11:10 PM
2

That pretty much legit happened to me when we went to counseling
/r/MGTOW216/01/21 08:21 PM
3

Why ask a loaded question that has nothing to do with my comment? I wouldn't go into a feminist sub and start by asking someone "Do you hate all men or something?" if I was there in good faith trying to learn. Pretty sure I know what kind of a response that would elicit. For being such a "supporter" of this community - that sure felt more like an attempted attack than a question trying to seek information.
/r/MGTOW216/01/21 12:22 AM
1

Want to piss off a feminist? Ask her if she is for the rights of women to choose how they live their life? Now ask them how they feel about women who choose to be stay at home moms. Ask them if they are against female oppression? Then ask them how they feel about women in the Islamic countries who have to wear a hajib. You'll find out real quick that its just a ideology that is more exclusive than inclusive to their stated cause.
/r/MGTOW216/01/21 12:20 AM
2

You don’t think all women are bad, do you?
/r/MGTOW215/01/21 10:48 PM
1

Says the person with enough time on their hands to come to this sub and try to make fun of the people here. Pot meet kettle.
/r/MGTOW215/01/21 05:21 PM
5

He'll be back. 19 and 27? He will DEFINITELY be back and probably sooner than later.
/r/MGTOW215/01/21 05:03 PM
8

Way to enter a sub and jump to a bunch of conclusions and make a bunch of assumptions based on your perception of us here - thanks for that. Hell no, I don't hate women - But, I also have come to terms with their true nature that even they themselves most likely aren't aware of. This true nature combined with the current state of society and gender roles make marriage or living with a woman a biased endeavour that I feel men are smart to avoid. And amazing relationships with women that men love …
/r/MGTOW215/01/21 04:53 PM
8

Most people here thought the exact same thing about their prior relationships and girlfriends
/r/MGTOW215/01/21 04:29 PM
1

How ignorant of you to assume how I would think or feel. ~Some egoist
/r/MGTOW215/01/21 03:47 AM
1

My favorite song comes in the form of the sounds of nature when walking alone in the woods, lack of sound or distraction when in the house enjoying a night/weekend home from work. I never realized just how chaotic and noisy my life was until I moved out after my divorce. I savor every single minute of tranquility and peace - it is by far the best opus that life has to offer.
/r/MGTOW215/01/21 01:02 AM
3

I met a guy whose kid was 7 when I first met him. His child turned 18 last year. It is a long, grueling road, but there is light at the end of the tunnel. He's extremely happy now, but it took a long time to get there. He was already "there" before his kid turned 18, but that was just icing on the cake. Hang in there.
/r/MGTOW215/01/21 12:59 AM
1

Do you two live together? I know you aren't married, but my advice is to go talk to a lawyer to at least get some idea of what the future looks like if you decide to kick this lazy woman to the curb in terms of parental rights. Things vary so much from state to state. Best to have all the info before deciding how to proceed. And if this does end up involving the court, typically the person to act first has the advantage. "Staying for the kid" is a fools game wrapped in something that sounds righ…
/r/MGTOW215/01/21 12:54 AM
7

I am in the exact same scenario and share the same sentiment as well. We both like sleeping in our own beds as well. Once in a blue moon will spend the night after too much wine, but rare and she's just as happy to see me go as I am to leave.
/r/MGTOW215/01/21 12:00 AM
3

Weed occasionally does wonders to "reset" my mindset. Do it too often, though, and the benefits disappear for me. Occasionally, for me, is key.
/r/MGTOW214/01/21 11:14 PM
11

I have had a few FWB situations over the years with women who are on the same page as me. Just want to hang out occasionally for some company, human contact, and sexual release. Sex is good for me and healthy for me in ways that masturbation is not. I should note, though, that I'm also older and the women I am involved with are past their kid bearing years and I've also been clipped. There's no way I would engage in this type of a scenario with a woman in her 20s or 30s. It's not fool proof, but…
/r/MGTOW214/01/21 10:58 PM
21

Have you SEEN some of the women exposing themselves on this site who get upvotes to the front pages?
/r/MGTOW214/01/21 05:09 AM
6

I think the women that "alpha males" obtain or seek have a lot to do with the cheating. Also, dangerous to base real life on anything you see on the screen or in a book.
/r/MGTOW213/01/21 05:24 PM
3

Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math majors
/r/MGTOW212/01/21 08:45 AM
5

50+ acres, small cabin, and a large barn for toys and recreation is what my retirement looks like. Somewhere outside of a small-medium sized town
/r/MGTOW209/01/21 11:19 PM
9

If you had married her she'd eventually had made your life even more miserable. On top of the shit now she'd be making you pay for your own kids and her lifestyle.
/r/MGTOW231/12/20 12:55 AM
1

Revenge means you're thinking of her. Go live a good life - that's the best "revenge" you could ever get. Stop giving her the power of still having control of your mind. For your second bit - start doing things to improve yourself. Go for long walks, pick up a side hustle, take up new hobbies. I'm sure there were moments you felt suffocation in your relationship - now is the time to refocus on yourself.
/r/MGTOW230/12/20 08:27 PM
2

I'm retiring early to do this while my retirement accounts compound interest. I'll then retire into a nice nestegg after i've traveled the states. Have land and a cabin that i'll come back to after I've grown tired of the road, but its dirt cheap living.
/r/MGTOW228/12/20 03:28 AM
1

Working from home or remote work won't probably come until you get more experience, but look into database work/report development/SQL. Can teach yourself and knowing just a little bit and finding a creative way to attach it to your resume could land you some good paying work. Not for everybody, but I've made a very rewarding and career off that path. I'm not a technical person by nature, but I've come to really enjoy it.
/r/MGTOW227/12/20 08:24 PM
17

A friend will be there by choice - a wife will be there by obligation. Two totally different levels of support and one comes with a lot of expectations strung along with it.
/r/MGTOW226/12/20 11:47 PM
22

Most of us here are way past this phase
/r/MGTOW225/12/20 07:32 PM
3

For me, personally, I've had to learn to be a bit of a stubborn asshole. You have to look out for and protect yourself like no one else in your life has because no one will.
/r/MGTOW224/12/20 08:11 PM
2

Saved
/r/MGTOW219/12/20 07:18 PM
7

This is the damn truth right here. Its not about finding an answer, its about the realization that there is no pot of gold at the end of a rainbow. No Santa Claus.
/r/MGTOW219/12/20 04:53 PM
1

OP: Not a doctor, but I would up the exercise and get your weight down before experimenting with any hormone replacement. But if your doctor is suggesting therapy then I will assume you are in good hands.
/r/MGTOW218/12/20 06:02 PM
1

Maybe go teach English abroad for a bit? Sounds like you need to mix things up in a drastic way.
/r/MGTOW217/12/20 07:04 PM
3

I dont think she would be foolish enough to break in and she has a court order too stay away. Many, many men have said the same thing and many, many men have seen those things mean absolutely nothing when a woman is on tilt. Move stuff around, change locks, anything! They're all capable of some bashing crazy behavior and will go to great lengths in terms of vindication. You gotta plan for worst case in all scenarios right now. I never thought my ex would drain our bank accounts, but she did and …
/r/MGTOW217/12/20 07:00 PM
3

Be as honest as you've ever been with yourself and her. I am one of the MGTOW that doesn't reject women - I just reject living with them or marrying them and I am upfront and blunt about this with every one I meet. I've actually had a few FWB over the years that has worked out fine. Busy career types and single moms that didn't have time for anything outside of the occasional romp. Worked well, but it opens you up to drama and trapping you if you aren't 100% disciplined.
/r/MGTOW217/12/20 07:36 AM
2

Going your own way is doing what you want as long as you aren't harming others. So go for it - give em all you got.
/r/MGTOW217/12/20 07:33 AM
2

I want sex. I don't want you to hold me. Incoming sympathy when?
/r/MGTOW217/12/20 07:32 AM
6

Lots and lots of cooking. New methods, new dishes, new cuisines. Recently just got into open fire cooking outdoors. Lots of fun equipment and techniques.
/r/MGTOW217/12/20 12:01 AM
4

I'm right behind you. Option to retire at 50, could retire a bit earlier if I downsized and/or moved to a lower COL area. If I worked and saved like I do until I'm 60 I'd be close to 8 figures, but it would have no effect on my life style - I have enough. Realizing how little you need to lead a happy and satisfying life leads to a strong financial life as well. We had everything money could buy in my marriage and we were miserable. I live like a college student now and have never been happier. I…
/r/MGTOW211/12/20 05:16 AM
5

And it ain't "love" its lust
/r/MGTOW211/12/20 05:11 AM
2

Very simply put - your friend morphs into a version of their girlfriend/wife and there's a high likelihood you won't get along with her the way you did with your friend before she came along.
/r/MGTOW210/12/20 08:25 PM
2

I got really tired of dating and hanging around women. The focus was always them. Now I make sure the focus is 100% abount me and make that clear to everyone. Any women who come around get bored of that and eventually move on. But you have to ve prepared to be extremely firm on that and not sway an inch. I tell them straight up I was in a controlling marriage and will never live with or marry another, period.
/r/MGTOW209/12/20 05:12 PM
3

He hates teaching, would like to try something else. He sealed his fate long ago. Unlike a MGTOW - he has no choices now.
/r/MGTOW229/11/20 10:09 PM
1

Never chase a woman. Its difficult to do, but it will give the opposite results to what you think...if she's into you. If she's not into you there isn't much you can do anyways except waste your time.
/r/MGTOW229/11/20 10:07 PM
7

Every day since my divorce has been a vacation and I'm over the moon happy and content - doesn't guarantee happiness, but that ownership is squarely on me
/r/MGTOW229/11/20 07:52 PM
4

Like everyone else except happy
/r/MGTOW229/11/20 05:46 PM
3

Look into data type work. Database administration, data analyst, SQL type of stuff. Lots of ways to learn that stuff on your own and you could find creative ways to tie it back into your prior experience and resume. Its not glamorous, but the pay would be a step up from where you're at.
/r/MGTOW229/11/20 01:21 AM
3

You sound pretty smart for 28. The signs were all there for me yet I still got married to please HER. This was a text book example of a woman trying to set a trap just to get you to walk down the isle. The sad part about all of this is she would be doing the same thing to any other guy who met her list of qualifications and was willing to go down the isle. And prepare for her to do just that with some other guy soon. Don't be jealous - be thankful and feel sorry for the new sucker. Or worse - sh…
/r/MGTOW228/11/20 09:19 PM
8

My first year of MGTOW, I went and had a Chinese meal by myself and then went out long range shooting. One of the most memorable days of my adult life. It was one big "FU!" to having to spend years around in-laws and having to put on a "show" in a bizarre form of modern slavery. NEVER AGAIN!
/r/MGTOW226/11/20 07:11 PM
12

You post in r/teenagers and that says it all.
/r/MGTOW223/11/20 04:18 PM
1

You and I have the same view. Rust Cohle from True Detective is how I model my interactions with women and its amazing how effective it is. Walking away and not allowing them to establish a game is super effective.
/r/MGTOW221/11/20 03:50 PM
3

I waited for her during my prime college years. Nah - a guys prime years are roughly 38-43. Mature, confident and attract women of all age. She, on the other hand is past her prime and is trying to look for a simp to squeeze kids out with before its too late. Good job of kicking that opportunist to the curb.
/r/MGTOW220/11/20 04:12 PM
1

That sounds like heaven to me
/r/MGTOW220/11/20 04:00 PM
1

You can't control a group that has no interest in engagement.
/r/MGTOW218/11/20 09:29 PM
2

I'm 40 soon and in a very similar situation. I make the rules and live my life on my own terms. Will never be rich, but will live comfortably and there's very little I can't have on a whim. I havent looked at a grocery receipt in many years.
/r/MGTOW201/11/20 09:18 PM
1

I used MINT back in the day - is that still a thing?
/r/MGTOW231/10/20 04:37 PM
1

I generally am more in favor of do what makes you happy versus criticizing how people spend their free time. There's a lot more destructive hobbies out there than video games...women for example. Video games never emotionally or financially hurt me.
/r/MGTOW210/10/20 02:02 AM
1

Long range gun shooting. An unexpected side effect of this is that I have made some great friends through this and am becoming a better person the more I get into this hobby.
/r/MGTOW207/10/20 10:44 PM
1

My libido has decreased as I've gotten older to the point where it's no longer a dominant part of my life. Liberating. If I lose weight it will come back to some degree...but still way better than when I was in my 20s...can actually focus on my life now.
/r/MGTOW207/10/20 10:35 PM
5

Try to first focus on and invest in yourself to give yourself the highest income earning potential. There are a lot of good paying jobs out there that people assume they can't get because they don't meet all of the qualifications. Nonsense. This is their ideal candidate a lot of times, but rarely what they settle on. I'm not trying to say you should start applying as a Radiology doc when you don't have a GED, but even knowing a little bit about excel or computers or numbers could get you into so…
/r/MGTOW206/10/20 10:01 PM
6

I feel the same way. I have at least had enough experience with them to realize that it isn't coincidence that all of them lead down the same path. I used to think maybe I just didn't find the right one and will have a better outcome with someone I get along with or have more in common with. Couldn't have been more wrong. Its all the same no matter which woman. Estrogen equalizes all differences between women and while all unique - all have the same underlying nature that fuels their drive. But …
/r/MGTOW206/10/20 09:38 PM
3

That blue pill mill of a sub seems like it exists purely as a defensive tactic for dealing with MGTOW. More evidence that women can't allow men to have anything for themselves. Always need to be mimicking and invading.
/r/MGTOW206/10/20 05:47 PM
2

Let's see if he simps again or not
/r/MGTOW206/10/20 05:39 PM
14

I have more contempt for the guys that sold their motorcycle when they got a GF or married or had a kid. A lot more deliberate.
/r/MGTOW206/10/20 05:34 PM
17

My man - living the same way
/r/MGTOW203/10/20 06:23 PM
1

There are as many answers to this as there are women walking the planet.
/r/MGTOW201/10/20 07:36 AM
13

Can relate to this. I had drinking buddies in high school and college. I didnt make friends until I made some via work.
/r/MGTOW201/10/20 12:55 AM
1

I wish everyone could read your phenomenal post. Until money is removed from politics that will always be the bottom line. You can follow it and it will lead you to an answer every time. And now you have the ruling class choosing which laws to implement and which ones not to - the average citizen has absolutely ZERO baring on things. Period.
/r/MGTOW229/09/20 12:17 AM
2

The goal of being independently wealthy is, IMO, the ultimate because it gives you the most choices and really lends it's hand to the MGTOW lifestyle and philosophy. But there are a million different ways to achieve this and there are some absentee business owners raking it in and doing very little. And then there are some business owners barely squeaking by and can barely take a bathroom break, let alone a vacation. And as far as a big business and building it? IMO - if you love doing it then t…
/r/MGTOW228/09/20 07:36 PM
4

MGTOW doesn't seem to have a particular political leaning, but I am willing to bet the people here are much more accepting and open to other people's views and opinions here compared to many other areas of social media. Reason being that we have had our eyes opened to the truth and so therefore are always open to questioning and refining our believes versus being staunchly ingrained in something. I think we are natural information seekers so enjoy listening to other people. I, personally, tend t…
/r/MGTOW228/09/20 07:17 PM
3

Long range gun shooting
/r/MGTOW228/09/20 12:04 AM
7

Man child means you're doing something right. Who wants to be and act old? I have some married friends and the highlight of their week is going to pick out flooring for the kitchen or finding an excuse to leave the house to run errands. Sounds awesome, right? I'll take man child.
/r/MGTOW227/09/20 11:39 PM
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I would purposefully ask if a video is required for attendance and if he says yes then make it very obvious that I am declining because of the damn video - then go about my day. That guy needs to know that asking this of guests is rude.
/r/MGTOW225/09/20 05:41 PM
6

Glad it's treating you right- just not for me. Cheers!
/r/MGTOW223/09/20 08:26 AM
5

Makers 46 Angel's Envy Rye Jefferson's Groth Cask Finish Not my favorite, but I've enjoyed a lot of Blanton's stuff. But sometimes even just a good old Jack Daniels on the rocks is delicious. There's a ton of overrated bourbons out there and the prices have gotten ridiculous in just the last few years. My goal these days is to try and find the best value. My take, anyways. I know you didn't ask.
/r/MGTOW223/09/20 02:58 AM
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Anonymity also becomes a blessing as you get older. In my youth I wanted my name known around town and have some level of fame even if on a local level - a socialite of sorts. Now that I'm older I realize there is great value on blending in and living a lowkey existence. And the thing about being anonymous is that once you sacrifice it - it becomes difficult to ever get back.
/r/MGTOW223/09/20 02:57 AM
5

Curvy used to mean something different back in my day.
/r/MGTOW222/09/20 09:08 PM
5

Also, all of the add-ons, gotchas, and small print items are tacked on after you transfer from the salesman to the finance guy.
/r/MGTOW222/09/20 09:07 PM
2

This is the worst post I've ever come across in this sub. Don't endanger someone else's life and get some help. Should be reported to authorities if possible. Short of that, I sincerely wish that you can find some help, OP - your thinking is clearly not normal and you have some shit to sort out.
/r/MGTOW222/09/20 06:40 AM
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No doubt. Nothing in life is risk free and I dont pretend to live a perfect life...doing my best. All I know is that I will no longer willingly enter legalized slavery that is the institution of marriage or living with a woman.
/r/MGTOW221/09/20 07:55 PM
5

I personally have had a FWB for years. We get together once or twice a month and then go about our lives as single individuals. Both have busy careers and don't want anything more. I will never live with or marry a woman, but im very much in control of my life and thats the real freedom. I dont condem how other men might choose to go about going their own way as long as they don't live with or marry another woman...thats where I draw the line with acceptance but outside of that it is their choic…
/r/MGTOW221/09/20 07:47 PM
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MGTOW for me is about living the life I want and keeping a woman's control over it out of the picture permanently. That's it.
/r/MGTOW221/09/20 07:42 PM
2

I feel the same way, OP. All repetitive and nothing new - same old formula.
/r/MGTOW221/09/20 07:23 PM
3

No man is
/r/MGTOW221/09/20 07:23 PM
6

People way too desperate to not be alone
/r/MGTOW221/09/20 06:41 PM
3

Ray Donovan is good.
/r/MGTOW221/09/20 03:42 AM
1

There are many reasons to get them and almost all of them are not complimentary. For men, to fit in, body dysmorphia - basically its because they don't think they are attractive enough as is to attract a mate.
/r/MGTOW221/09/20 03:41 AM
1

This is an awesome list.
/r/MGTOW221/09/20 03:30 AM
2

I do 2 or 3 slow cooker meals a month during the non-summer months. Easy and inexpensive way to feed yourself for a few days every month and the variety is endless. I also have a Ninja to make smoothies - I will do a protein smoothie (scoop of vanilla flavored) with frozen berries, a banana, almond milk, and frozen spinach for my lunches a few times a week when I don't have a lot of time when working. Also a great way to watch the weight. A good, sharp knife is fantastic. My sister gets a ton of…
/r/MGTOW220/09/20 06:19 PM
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Honestly if we continued that and added children I'd be the happiest man alive. This is bullshit and you know it. You need to stop creating a fictitious, over idealized life. Kids and the pressure of time would have created an even bigger mess when she would have inevitably cheated on you. You also need to stop blaming yourself for the actions of your partner. The reality is there is nothing holding a woman back from cheating these days. In fact, it is the opposite. Social media, Hollywood, the …
/r/MGTOW219/09/20 11:42 PM
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This is great insight. Also, a man capable of killing, is capable of protecting. Do you want to be with the man perceived as being in control of his life and being feared or do you want to be with the man where protection is questionable? Even in nature the victor is the one who passes on his genes, not the loser.
/r/MGTOW219/09/20 11:28 PM
4

Mimics my story exactly. Every day has been a vacation since I moved out into my own place. Why would I want to go back into slavery willingly? The answer is there is no reason to.
/r/MGTOW218/09/20 11:50 PM
2

There's still no reason to get married even in your 30s. In fact, I would argue there is an even greater chance of bullshit and games because their clock is ticking and with less time. If the girl really is "the one" for you then why is marriage even needed at all? Most girls are willing to wait a bit, very few are willing to be with you without their objectives of marriage and kids being met. Why? They don't have the safety of biased laws on their side without those. There are women out there t…
/r/MGTOW218/09/20 11:48 PM
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I'd rather not waste my time - too busy making myself happy than waste it on something I don't care about. The true zen of MGTOW, IMO, is the satisfaction gained from removing yourself and your thoughts from that world...not aligning against it.
/r/MGTOW218/09/20 11:41 PM
2

Divorced at 35, I'm 40...will be able to retire at 48. Like another poster said - the key is to live like your poor and find hobbies that are free or cheap and you can easily build wealth without a wife or kids. I also put any raises I got towards retirement. So if I got a 3% raise I put in an extra 3% into retirement each paycheck...never missed it.
/r/MGTOW218/09/20 09:09 AM
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Yeah but by that point I had been over the relationship for a long time and there was no sex anyways
/r/MGTOW218/09/20 09:07 AM
2

Not health care- its just a all woman environment that is toxic. Male only = fine. Male and female mix = fine. All women = unproductive, toxic, and an HR nightmare
/r/MGTOW211/09/20 04:49 AM
1

Your post had me laughing hard and you are dead on. Agree - give him his own show - we need people like this on TV - far more entertaining than the boring "stars."
/r/MGTOW207/07/20 05:26 PM
2

I dont actually think either person is a piece of shit. I mean in a sense, yes, but everybody is capable of that and it definitely comes out more if there is incompatibility. I think there was just obvious incompatibility at a foundational level that caused both people to act out. Both seem like their expectations were out of line with reality. Ed thinks his wallet and American status should earn respect and Rose thinks her looks should earn respect, but the reality is both were awkward and low …
/r/MGTOW207/07/20 05:25 PM
2

I was a lot like you are until I realized I am just someone who needs structure in my life. Without structure and a schedule I completely let myself go. With structure I am a successful and competent person. Dont beat yourself up - you're still really young - I didnt get my shit together until I was 25, but when I did the sky became the limit. Second the military - it forces structure.
/r/MGTOW205/07/20 06:45 PM
3

Occasional loneliness is a small price to pay for absolute freedom.
/r/MGTOW203/07/20 06:07 PM
3

Its almost shocking at just how far off the mark people who think they get it are vs people that get it.
/r/MGTOW202/07/20 06:40 AM
1

Having a vagina is the first red flag.
/r/MGTOW202/07/20 04:02 AM
1

My first observation is you appear in your post to truly feel tired of their shit and the wizard behind the curtain has been exposed in regards to women. This right here, IMO, is a sign that you're going to enjoy and adopt to this lifestyle choice and philosophy easily. You're almost there, but you need to dig deep to get past the early stages of a breakup so that you don't fall right back into a toxic situation which most guys do a few times before the woman finally finds the new guy and now yo…
/r/MGTOW202/07/20 03:55 AM
1

Tbf I've seen the reverse of this where it is clearly the gay man clinging onto the woman between dudes.
/r/MGTOW201/07/20 04:57 AM
1

Watch the legs, not the lips
/r/MGTOW229/06/20 05:55 PM
1

Most do so his concerns are warranted. Navigating those motives can be tricky if weak
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 10:20 PM
1

dude - "go your own way" means doing what you want - not denying yourself a good time or a social circle or even sex. If you feel like hanging out with her hang out with her. Going your own way is just about living life on your own terms and not letting women get you into a position where you no longer have a say in your own life. That's it.
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 09:39 PM
1

I wouldnt being it up at all unless you sense she might want more than friendship or if she inquires about your loveliness during conversation. And it's not a game at all - quite the opposite as it is being blunt and honest which is the furthest thing from a game there can be.
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 09:34 PM
1

You sound a lot like me - it takes very little to keep me happy and content which may be a big link between MGTOW and blue pillers. Expensive stuff and lots of things end up owning your freedom - smart people keep it simple and flexible imo.
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 07:55 PM
1

small cabin on some acreage. Maybe a large manage barn for toys and a gun range.
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 07:49 PM
3

I believe what you write, but have known many women with your stance at your age that do a 180 when they hit the 27/30ish age range. Hormones do crazy things.
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 07:46 PM
1

my own opinion is to be 100% straight up with her amd let her know you're not interested any anything outside of friendship and have no desire to marry or date. Then see how she responds. There are women out there that just want a friendship or FWB situation and I have had a lot of fun since my divorce - just get snipped or wrap it up every single time and have fun. Going your own way is doing what you want without getting tied down so that you can no longer control your life. For me it doesn't …
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 07:42 PM
1

It gets easier with age. I'm 39 and I only have a handful of friends I spend time with and they all know I'm not interested in a gathering with strangers.
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 07:37 PM
2

I can't think of a single reason to not remain single. I can't name one thing I can't do as a single man that i can't do in a relationship. In a relationship, however, I see a whole sea of things I can't do that I can as a single man.
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 12:22 AM
1

You can't walk away from a living situation even when you know you should.
/r/MGTOW226/06/20 09:51 PM
2

My vote would be to do it when you are young. I am older and am tied to Healthcare more and more each year and while I could spend a great deal of time abroad, moving there is out of the question since some services and drugs simply don't exist outside of the US for things I have. Sucks but thats just reality.
/r/MGTOW226/06/20 05:26 PM
3

I find that comical - that sub circlejerks endlessly over people posting their retirement finances and stats, but soundly reject a stat that could have a major impact on people's retirement.
/r/MGTOW225/06/20 06:34 PM
4

The lack of being needed by your partner has made both sexes resentful.
/r/MGTOW224/06/20 11:03 PM
1

I almost feel like you're doing it wrong to be MGTOW and NOT embracing a minimalist lifestyle. Of course this is counterintuitive to the movement - which is more of "Do whatever you like." So I still feel you should do whatever you like, but minimalism would be highly encouraged by me to make your life simpler, more stress free, and allow you to do whatever you like.
/r/MGTOW224/06/20 10:59 PM
1

IMO - MGTOW can be even more liberating for someone that is gay. Doing things the way you want vs societal expectations which seems to be in a gay person's face. Must be urban, must like fashion, good food, must manscape, etc etc etc....MGTOW is your chance to say "fuck that I want to live by my own rules."
/r/MGTOW208/03/20 07:28 PM
3

Early retirement
/r/MGTOW207/03/20 02:51 AM
3

I think men and women are spending too much time together and life got too easy
/r/MGTOW207/03/20 02:50 AM
3

I was referring to family members, but yeah I'm sure tons of people saw me as the problem in her family and circles...in fact I know that to be the case...
/r/MGTOW207/03/20 01:45 AM
2

Yeah, but I also dont want to sleep with any of them
/r/MGTOW206/03/20 05:20 PM
4

Good, but artificial. I project the person she wants me to be, not the person I am...because if I projected my real self I wouldnt hear the constant end of criticism.
/r/MGTOW206/03/20 02:23 AM
3

I discovered this in my early 30s and have been selfishly keeping this to myself - have been so happy
/r/MGTOW206/03/20 02:17 AM
11

My ex was having an affair with her subordinate at work and plastered it all over facebook. No, no one blamed me.
/r/MGTOW206/03/20 01:50 AM
57

Everyone wants you to get married until you get divorced...then magically they all leave you the hell alone. Weird.
/r/MGTOW205/03/20 07:42 PM
2

Buy a vehicle you can live in, but fuck that moving in with your girlfriend to escape your situation noise.
/r/MGTOW205/03/20 01:53 AM
4

I think it's possible, but it has nothing to do with you and entirely to do with getting lucky with the right type of woman. My mother respects my dad and let's him be an individual and stays out of his hair...works fine and both are happy. Unfortunately not too common and getting less common each year.
/r/MGTOW205/03/20 01:51 AM
10

I think marriage should be between two people...not two people and the government.
/r/MGTOW205/03/20 01:38 AM
2

I talk to and even flirt with women all the time...and gulp even have sex with them sometimes. I just am brutally honest with where I am at in life and make it crystal clear how I dont have time for anything beyond a friendship...95% will hightail and run for an easier guy for their life. The remaining few who make it their mission I will admit can be real rocky...but I just have to put my foot down. But most of the time we just are legit friends and nothing wrong with that.
/r/MGTOW204/03/20 08:55 PM
3

I have been through several long term relationships and a marriage. Every single one of them went through the same cycle of what I would call a very slow and long manipulation where my needs and wants were systematically removed before I felt like I had no control, no input, and did not recognize myself. I finally took a step back after my marriage and a decline in sex drive due to age and a light bulb went off...and I think the only way to maintain a normal and satisfactory life was to choose t…
/r/MGTOW204/03/20 02:59 AM
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"boyfriend" being the operative word. She's putting a $5,000 down payment towards half of a marriage's worth of money...which is probably many, many multiples more than a mere $5k
/r/MGTOW203/03/20 11:07 PM
2

Your post would have been considered brave and refreshing and empowering if you had said you were a woman going her own way
/r/MGTOW203/03/20 08:19 PM
2

Hating means you still care about them which is total simp....apathy is MGTOW
/r/MGTOW203/03/20 02:12 AM
7

Enjoy some freedom and best of luck! I can't imagine a life revolving around relationship drama like when I was married - peace is so nice.
/r/MGTOW202/03/20 12:24 AM
6

She's going to start throwing herself at you sexually to keep the bond...so be prepared for the desperate attempts!
/r/MGTOW202/03/20 12:17 AM
3

This is the right decision IMO. Living off the grid isn't as fun if it's your only option. Living off the grid isn't as fun when you're having medical issues as you most certainly will with age. Better to have options. Live well below your means and save for a long time and you can then have the freedom to live whatever kind of life you want.
/r/MGTOW202/03/20 12:16 AM
3

You will live your own life as a MGTOW versus being a literal captive and accessory to someone else's.
/r/MGTOW229/02/20 07:36 AM
1

Looks like an excellent session
/r/MGTOW228/02/20 02:23 AM
4

Go in with the expectation of failure...be prepared to take the criticism and turn it into something worthy of less criticism....keep doing that until you have your goal - but expecting critisism is how you learn and is necessary for development.
/r/MGTOW227/02/20 02:17 AM
5

Loneliness is a small price to pay for freedom. I used to have to tell myself this from time to time after divorce, but it became more and more obvious over the years that it's now as familiar as breathing.
/r/MGTOW227/02/20 02:12 AM
4

I can sympathize- the more I try to be left the fuck alone the more I am bothered - by both sexes, but especially women. Annoying.
/r/MGTOW227/02/20 02:11 AM
1

Seems like a perfect time to quite literally go your own way
/r/MGTOW223/02/20 08:16 PM
1

See you back here in about a decade...they're all awesome when they are getting what they want in the beginning. As soon as you are married to her, her very rich and powerful dad (the government that you are also marrying) will crush you and burry you like a miserable cockroach the second you fall out of line or don't keep her interest any longer.
/r/MGTOW222/02/20 08:16 PM
3

Add me to the list.
/r/MGTOW220/02/20 10:57 PM
1

My job is indoors so I try to spend as much free time as possible outdoors. Shooting guns, fishing, hiking, four wheeling, drinking beer by a fire, outdoor cooking/smoking like this guy...just started collecting all the equipment. Follow Kent Collins a lot too. Exercise 5 days a week for at least 30 minutes on top of everything else. Incline walking and some light jogging just to keep the dexterity and cardio on par. 50 pushups every other day and some planks to stay fit and keep a little tone a…
/r/MGTOW220/02/20 10:52 PM
15

Go walk around a retirement home or a nursing home - every once in a while you'll see a married couple together, but that is rare. Truth is we all are dying alone - it is an individual journey - even those married and with kids. Spouses die at different times and the kids at some point just sorta want to brush you into a corner to die so they can worry about the more pressing matters in their life just the way you did in your own. Its not because they don't love you or are assholes it's just tha…
/r/MGTOW220/02/20 07:57 PM
5

Feminism does not promote equality - it strives for power in the name of equality. Your opinion is unoriginal, boring, and doesn't have much to do with MGTOW. That's the problem with posters like you who come here without educating themselves on what this movement is. It isn't about hating women or politics or anything - it's about men doing their own thing in life without feeling bad about it.
/r/MGTOW220/02/20 07:03 AM
1

I restarted at 35...and now have a decent little nestegg in and out of retirement accounts at 39. Live like you're poor for a few years and save like hell and you can be well on your road to financial freedom.
/r/MGTOW220/02/20 03:40 AM
2

Personally have met a lot of good, close friends through work and hobbies - notably shooting guns. Go to the range, take turns shooting each other's stuff...go out for a beer afterwards and talk about life.
/r/MGTOW220/02/20 03:37 AM
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I put a lot of focus on material things when I was younger. Chasing money, fancy dinners, big house, cars, etc. It was a HUGE motivator for me so in a sense this was helpful...but I was fortunate enough to get into a career with a high ceiling and was able to experience some of those things and you know what? All were major disappointments. A car is just a car, a big house is a lot of unused space that needs maintained, and a lot of those fancy dinners are small portions and taste like shit. The…
/r/MGTOW220/02/20 03:34 AM
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LOL Your wife isn't bipolar or crazy - she's just being a woman with estrogen pumping through her body at full force. Everyone's ex is crazy and bipolar when the relationship is taking a swan dive into the void. Good luck.
/r/MGTOW220/02/20 03:19 AM
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2020 is being deemed as my "Year of Health." Diet, exercise, going into the doctor more...etc. Am not too far gone, but have let things slide the past few years as my career took an uptick.
/r/MGTOW220/02/20 01:56 AM
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In the US today? Yes it is highly overrated. It will give you nothing that you can't get without it...and most likely will add more negatives to your life. You give up financial freedoms when you enter into a marriage and/or have kids. You give up law equality in regards to gender. Perfectly okay to not get married.
/r/MGTOW220/02/20 01:54 AM
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A marriage, long relationships, and enough dating to realize focusing on myself was more rewarding than focusing on a woman who was never truly focused on me. Experience is the only thing that could open my eyes. Lucky to come out of it with no children.
/r/MGTOW204/02/20 08:05 AM
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This is awesome
/r/MGTOW220/12/19 09:57 AM
2

Control
/r/MGTOW220/12/19 09:54 AM
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I was in many fights during high school and middle school...regret every single one of them...completely unnecessary
/r/MGTOW215/12/19 10:01 PM
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Statistics back you up
/r/MGTOW215/12/19 10:00 PM
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Have about 40 acres in Central Texas, but thinking of selling (for 3x-5x what I paid) for SW Oklahoma, near Flagstaff, or WY....AZ gun laws are winning, but OK is what I'm familiar with so it's a tough call....
/r/MGTOW212/12/19 05:23 AM
1

Cowboy Kent Collins and Cooking With the Blues. Sprinkle in some BBQ Pit Boys and some T-ROY Cooks here and there as well. Then go to Allrecipies for easy versions of stuff
/r/MGTOW212/12/19 05:19 AM
1

This is your new life - introduce them to it and a habitat of peace and serenity
/r/MGTOW212/12/19 05:16 AM
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IMHO - MGTOW is college (with all the bromance, frat drama, and confusion) and MGTOW2 is real world life after you've finished your PhD and have 15 years of experience under your belt. MGTOW2 is for those living the life of a zen monk.
/r/MGTOW212/12/19 05:11 AM
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"Man-up" for me represents different stages of the MGTOW process. There is an immature stage where you can sympathize with the "woman hating" phase of MGTOW. There are phases when you are figuring things out, phases when you have completely embraced the true MGTOW philosophy on life, and then there is the stage where you understand things, embrace reality, but need a push to get to the zen that is TRUE MGTOW. But at no time does it mean going back to the way of a beta...from my view anyways. If …
/r/MGTOW212/12/19 05:03 AM
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Good timing - worked on a demolition crew for a few summers during college and 6 months full time until I found my post college first job. Worked with tons of small guys...just work hard - no one cares about size
/r/MGTOW216/10/19 04:32 AM
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Demolition crew. Sucks hauling shit out, but what a fun gig Made 33.50 an hour when I was 19 and paid for my entire college and housing working summers...kinda wish I hadn't left....satisfying work.
/r/MGTOW216/10/19 04:30 AM
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I look up to guys like you. I have an advanced degree and am in banking making good money. Everybody else in my family use their hands and are in the trades...they are much much happier and satisfied with their lives than me.
/r/MGTOW216/10/19 04:27 AM
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I'm a HUGE fan of NOT upgrading your lifestyle as your income increases and living way below your means, but if you are in a progressive income oriented career, there reaches a point where you should be able to upgrade your lifestyle a bit without taking away from your financial goals. Hobbies that require more capital (poker, shooting, etc), trips that are higher end, high end dining, and this type of thing...this doesnt mean start spending every penny or developing bad habits...but now you hav…
/r/MGTOW228/09/19 10:34 PM
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People who spent their college years in long term relationships are the ones who truly missed out.
/r/MGTOW225/09/19 12:47 AM
1

I think educational institutions should completely shun the party culture. Zero tolerance for alcohol and parties. If you dont want to have university as a educational focus fine - go party and have fun doing whatever, but keep that out. Greek system needs to go too.
/r/MGTOW221/09/19 08:45 PM
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Being fun and desirable, yet politely brushing women off is the ultimate position to be in in High School. I would focus on being engaged, but observing from afar. You can watch all of your friends make the mistakes that young men do while hiverijg above it. And girls will respect you more for it.
/r/MGTOW217/09/19 04:55 AM
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Staying off the internet in general will guide your mind towards a more "normal" state of sexual thoughts and regulation. YouTube, Facebook, Reddit front pages...all can lead to "boredom masturbation" at just the site of a sexual ad or post.
/r/MGTOW217/09/19 12:48 AM
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I never involve money or business with family or friends. I've seen so many friends and family members get burned by violating this rule. Want to destroy strong family relationships? Open up a family business.
/r/MGTOW215/09/19 01:08 AM
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I think you're getting there but have a ways to go - apathy is when this lifestyle really starts into overdrive amd then you simply will never have it any other way.
/r/MGTOW215/09/19 01:00 AM
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I plan on retiring early to a low cost of living area. Save 50% of my income and live like a bum. I lived a life of luxury (which I paid out the ass for) when I was married and got sick of it to be frank. Big house, nice cars, fancy meals, and upscale vacations are awesome for a while when it's new. Eventually the vernier wore off for me and after I got divorced I craved simplicity and comfort. Small house, reliable and functional used car, and meals I make at home are now my thing. Stemmed into…
/r/MGTOW215/09/19 12:53 AM
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Them driving you to call them complete cunts indicates to me that you've already given them too much weight in your life. I personally think complete cunts is way overboard - they simply are slaves to their biological masters the same way we are - it's just that modern society has made partnerships and relationships tilted way in favor of the woman. In this process they have made the idea of living together and marriage a bad bet. And I'm not talking bad as in 51/49 house/player odds - I'm talki…
/r/MGTOW215/09/19 12:37 AM
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I mean no offense, but you are not looking to go your own way based on your post because you are still trying to get your head around and understand their behavior. There are lots of reasons that explain her behavior as mentioned in this thread, but MGTOW truly is a hammer to fix the problem. You politely, but firmly move this woman out of your life so that you can focus on your own instead of wasting energy on this train wreck of a human. Any thing you do or say or any emotion is just throwing …
/r/MGTOW214/09/19 07:45 PM
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Imagine knowing that no matter how many women you date or approach that you always have a crutch to lean on for support. This allows you to be more vulnerable, more "my way or the highway", and also allows you to get your physical needs taken care of while still having your emotional needs and self esteem strokes if there is fallout. You are filling this gap in her life and you will never be more. This person is using you and is toxic. I would highly suggest you politely cut her off before she c…
/r/MGTOW214/09/19 04:32 PM
1

Can relate - I got divorced about 4 years ago. The week I moved out I tries doing a single pushup and could not. Instead I did 5 bitch pushups from my knees. I did this every other day until I could do 5 regular pushups, then 10, then 20, and now I do 50 - three times a week. What's crazy is how quickly you will start to see definition in your shoulders, pectoral, and arms...only takes a few months and it can give your physique a real boost. Combine this with some cardio and you can look like a …
/r/MGTOW214/09/19 12:51 AM
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Loneliness is a small price to pay for absolute freedom. Embrace it and shrug off those rare bouts of loneliness.
/r/MGTOW212/09/19 03:41 AM
1

If you make decent money it is easy to rebuild and retire earlier and even better...
/r/MGTOW210/09/19 03:03 AM
1

Working in a big city making good money, but living like a poor homeless person so that I can bank my money into an early retirement situation. Already have a plot of land and am installing solar and a well. Going to start building a cabin and barn in a few years.
/r/MGTOW208/09/19 10:14 PM
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The universe operates on one timeline, the Earth on another, geological timelines on another, humanity on another, and then there is you. I think humanity will continue to go through periods of booms and busts with a slow overall upward curve until something takes us out...but this movement isn't about any of that. It is about making the best life for you. The hope is for you, not humanity.
/r/MGTOW205/09/19 01:23 AM
1

Sk them for a million bucks to pay for your divorce and child support...short of that...your decision.
/r/MGTOW231/08/19 03:34 AM
1

Disagree- you can do things as a single dude that would be challenging or impossible to achieve with a woman. You can cut corners where you like and have a schedule that makes education, promotions, and multiple jobs possible. Want to live in a small car/van? Go for it. Want to take night classes or work long hours? Go for it. Start a business and live in your parents basement for a while? Easier. Insurance is less, retirement way cheaper, etc. Move to the middle of nowhere and save your pennies…
/r/MGTOW231/08/19 03:20 AM
1

This is a trap. They all claim they dont want kids and are in no rush to have kids. This is what they all say because they have been trained to use this tactic to reel in a man they want. Once things get intimate, without fail, their tune will change and do a complete 180 on you - especially the 20s and early 30s crowd. The only exception is the older close to menopause woman with a few kids and a few divorces under their belt that has shown them the realities. But outside of that, when the inti…
/r/MGTOW231/08/19 03:12 AM
1

I move to a new city every 3-5 years...start the life of exploration and discovery all over again. Meet new people and new adventure...been doing this since I was early 20s and I'm almost 45. Thinking about stopping and settling down now though- figured out where i want to be long term and what kinda lifestyle I want...but took some wandering to figure it out.
/r/MGTOW227/08/19 02:56 AM
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"Why would I want to go do something stupid like that?
/r/MGTOW224/08/19 08:43 PM
1

Hey guy - sorry to hear about your recent passings and I know college can be stressful. I dont know if this will be helpful at all, but I work in an industry where everything is project based. Projects can take sometimes years and if you try to swallow it all at once you'd lose your mind. The key, IMO, is to train yourself to view things a day or a week at a time. Break your work down into small, manageable chunks. There is an old saying that the US Marines have - "How do you eat an elephant? On…
/r/MGTOW221/08/19 03:37 AM
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You're in the right headspace, OP. Live your life, dont fall victim to living someone elses... ride is quick.
/r/MGTOW221/08/19 02:45 AM
1

Worse than dwindling physical attraction is putting you slowly, over time into a little box that she keeps in her closet that she only keeps around because you drop golden coins into her bank account twice a month. The slow loss of sexual attraction sucked, but the real pain deep in my soul was neglect at the expense of my own wishes and dreams - true betrayal.
/r/MGTOW221/08/19 02:41 AM
1

Early retirement went from a dream to a very real reality within the next 10 years and I'm still pretty young. Live way below my means and have a high income. Working two jobs but it keeps me busy and out of trouble.
/r/MGTOW220/08/19 10:26 PM
1

It's mainly due to a lack of modern medicine. People back then wanted lots of kids to help out and contribute. The window for having kids and healthy kids was much narrower. The likelihood of dying during childbirth was much higher. The chance of miscarriages and infant deaths due to disease was much higher. All of this means the process needed to start as early as possible. Older dudes marrying much younger women is generally because their previous wives died during childbirth or to sickness an…
/r/MGTOW214/08/19 09:07 PM
1

Has this been an ongoing issue or fairly recent? NEVER underestimate the power of menopause. I have several men who had to keep contact with mom to a minimum until that shit had tapered off...
/r/MGTOW213/08/19 06:43 PM
1

Found the married dude
/r/MGTOW213/08/19 06:02 PM
1

Miles will vary, but start cooking elaborate meals for yourself and take up long range shooting as a hobby. Between these two I am always busy.
/r/MGTOW213/08/19 04:12 AM
1

Into the Wild
/r/MGTOW213/08/19 03:50 AM
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Modern society has removed the neccesity of cohabitation and shared finances. Also tech makes anything we want as easy as a button or swipe....but its okay. Even in highly successful animal species there are natural checks and balances that keep population in check. Ants without rivals given enough time start reducing the genetic diversity to the point where they are susceptible to almost any pathogen. We have our weaknesses too...
/r/MGTOW213/08/19 03:43 AM
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I've gotten to the point where I start feeling sorry for the unlucky victim that she'll latch onto. He'll feel chosen and lucky and go along with things...he'll wake up when it's too late or live life of ignorance repeating the same mistake.
/r/MGTOW213/08/19 03:22 AM
1

Biological factor gone and hormones significantly decreasing could lead to a happy type of friendship perhaps?
/r/MGTOW204/08/19 03:00 PM
1

Right there with ya
/r/MGTOW204/08/19 01:07 PM
2

Go look at Facebook sometime of people in relationships or married/kids. Notice something? They never have a bad day in their life and everything is always wonderful. Guess what? It's all fabricated piles of bullshit. They are all humans and have good days and bad days and are questioning their overall happiness all the time just like you are. Being in a relationship doesn't change that.
/r/MGTOW204/08/19 12:58 PM
1

You have far more wealth than a rich married man.
/r/MGTOW204/08/19 12:53 PM
1

Calling bullshit on this one too.
/r/MGTOW204/08/19 12:42 PM
1

Highlight the positive aspects of being single and doing anything and everything you want. If you have time, make a checklist of all the things you are doing and all the things you could be doing with all of the free time and resources that are freed up due to your choice. I go down this list with friends and you know what? I get about halfway down the list and they have no argument or response and you can see some jealousy and envy in their eyes.
/r/MGTOW204/08/19 12:35 PM
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I agree with the overall sentiment and agree he's the asshole for doing a 180 without including his life partner on his decision. With that said, from my experience, the reverse situation happens all the time and the men are supposed to suck it up and give in to their girlfriend/wives acts of irrationality. Ex-wife had no issues changing careers or quitting jobs without including me in the decision process. If I had decided to quit my job or change careers without talking about it then hell woul…
/r/MGTOW204/08/19 12:25 PM
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I've read that it's biologically driven. If we remained as infatuated and focused on the other partner for the duration of the relationship then we neglect our babies/kids and other aspects of our lives. We'd also stick to one partner indefinitely and would lead to less variation in our DNA. I'm not an expert to know much about the latter, but the former definitely makes sense to me.
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 01:44 AM
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Speak with your actions and if she questions them let her know why. I dont believe in making some big speech about some MGTOW philosophy- it will fall on dead ears. I do tell people that I prefer to walk life alone and want to maintain peace after a bad marriage and divorce. Typically that gets through to them on some level.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 05:20 PM
1

Great post - Yes, I technically started the ultimate vacation the day I moved out of the house I was married to my wife in. Been an endless vacation since to be honest. That said - I'm on the opposite coast, but am in a good employment situation and can take extended time off- outer banks look awesome!
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 02:19 AM
1

My experience is that any version of commitment will kill sex given enough time. So I avoid that at all costs. I've had a wife and a few girls who I was in a lengthy, committed relationship ship with. Then, I've had unsteady, uncommitted sexual/dating flings. The relationship women have moved on and I've never heard from them. I still have the flings contacting me to talk or hangout decades later even if they are no longer on the market. Pretty telling for me and I'm a small sample size. I'm not…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 02:04 AM
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No, but have a physical relationship with a regular woman who also doesnt want to have anything to do with a relationship or marriage. We hook up once ever few weeks and then go about our ways. Has been going on for a few years now and zero drama or issues.
/r/MGTOW225/07/19 02:12 AM
1

Wait a few decades. I'm close to my 40s and have seen a significant decrease in my desire for sex. Most guys panic - I'm celebrating. Liberation.
/r/MGTOW225/07/19 01:54 AM
1

Keeping your appearance up goes far beyond physical attraction from women. Helpful for your career, self confidence, and health.
/r/MGTOW225/07/19 01:29 AM
1

Take comfort that in time you will change and so will your goals. That's not an excuse to forgo your dreams by any means, but just confirmation that some stuff that is important to you now might not be later on. For example - I wanted to travel the world when I was younger, and now I hate to travel - like the comforts of my own home. I used to want a sports car and now like vehicles with utility and that I can take camping, etc.
/r/MGTOW224/07/19 09:40 PM
2

VR porn was so good I made a decision to never do it again- don't want to become desensitized from the real thing. With sound on it was like being 16 years old again with the Victoria Secret catalog levels.
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 09:30 PM
1

I go out of my way to be as incognito and low profile as possible. Its the one thing you can't get back if you get rid of it.
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 09:22 PM
1

I'm older so maybe that has something to do with it, but I am very open about my plans to remain single. I was married and dealt with all of the unnecessary emotional drama and financial drains that came with it. I just convey my desire to live out the test of my life in peace. I crave it and need it. And guess what? As the years go by I witness the arguing, the financial problems, the cheating, the drama and dont envy it one bit. I have a saying - the infrequent bouts of loneliness is a small p…
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 09:08 PM
1

I uproot and move once every 3-5 years. Have done it my entire life - got easier after my divorce and then got stupid easy after I started living in a small RV fulltime.
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 08:56 PM
1

Woodworking, cooking, and spending as much time outdoors and in solitude as possible. Going to get into winter camping soon.
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 08:51 PM
1

She is okay with a form of prostitution then
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 04:48 PM
2

I'm in basically the same boat. I saved to my goal, but now that I have all the money I want I can't rid of the lifestyle. I'm infinitely happier than I ever was in a sedentary apartment.
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 03:53 AM
1

Soak your razors in baby oil after every use and you'll only need to replace blades once a year
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 03:30 AM
1

First one to lawyer up and act has a huge advantage. Time to put emotion aside and be smart.
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 03:16 AM
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