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Debatedamaggdgoods/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 11:21 PM
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Funny enough the top marginal tax rate was 91% in 1951
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:40 AM
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increase tariffs This is actually an issue with a lot of hypocrisy. Democratic legislators have always been protectionist. Clinton & Obama happened to be free traders but when the rubber hit the road it was always republicans voting for free trade and democrats voting against it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:49 AM
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Trump was graded on a curve. There is a party that’s actually interested in governing and wants to pursue social programs, and there’s another party that just wants to troll for morally nihilistic reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:00 PM
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I dropped out after 2nd grade. Started doing alcohol and other fun crimes. I do blame mortal combat but not tekken. If only mortal combat had better combo attacks…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:54 AM
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I’ve been around the block a few times. Just because you’re obsessed with using the word “objective” doesn’t mean you’re being objective. Same with my boss at work obsessed with using the word “logic” doesn’t mean they’re being logical
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:18 AM
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You seem to be arguing that morality doesn’t exist. Maybe I missed your point
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:54 PM
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This is an opinion. I could just as easily say “men who do whatever women want.” I could stick a needle in your eye and claim “get over it, morality is subjective”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:41 PM
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Mods can fuck off. It’s not rhetoric. I have no agenda. Need a place to vent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:53 AM
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I always thought redpill was more singularly focused on attracting women through self improvement, no? No. Hard no. If that’s all it was we could just follow the PUA models. I know some people will be mad at me when I say this but the red pill is a more than just self improvement. It is a philosophy about the nature of how heterosexual men and women interact.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:25 AM
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If I was aborted that’d be fine. Wouldn’t have to go to work tomorrow or grind away until I’m 70
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 12:01 AM
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You can have actual social skills - i.e. being able to get along with people on a daily basis, uplifting them, navigate differences of opinion, high EQ, etc. - and not be able to come across as socially graceful when first meeting someone OP you might need to clear the record. Everyone think you’re saying social skills aren’t valuable. I know that’s not what you’re saying but folks are misinterpreting
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 11:22 PM
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Except I know people who are charming but completely lack all of those qualities, have no self awareness, can’t change, can’t grow, don’t even want to change, etc. It’s impossible to deal with them outside of these sorts of superficial conversations that we have for entertainment. ^
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 11:12 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 11:34 AM
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do you let pro life women off the hook?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:03 PM
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Astronomical rates? Are you sure about that? My experience with the Christian community is they love soup kitchens and poor people eating out of their hand so they can shove dogma down others throats. Public sector welfare neutralizes this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 04:09 PM
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Yes I’m incompetent. You win Now that we got that out of the way, he was saying women can’t handle male indifference In the context of what I said “They view confidence as a strength and positive quality and indecisiveness implies inferiority” So change that to “They view confidence as a strength and positive quality and indifference implies inferiority” which would also be true and communicates the same message. Even if definitions are slightly asymmetrical, the Venn diagram overlap is large en…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/24 01:31 PM
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How do you even know my level? Or how do you even come to perceive my level in a certain way?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 11:22 PM
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Don’t tell me. Tell that to women and feminists who disrespect men who lack the confidence they want.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/24 11:16 PM
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What’s there to explain? Women like confidence and indifference is the opposite of confidence. They view confidence as a strength and positive quality and indecisiveness implies inferiority
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/24 11:12 PM
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lot of feminists will probably still pick Conservatives or the red pill (the bear in this analogy) over the Leftwing Male (the man in this analogy). Because they just can’t handle male indifference. Yup the indifference is a sign of weakness and obvious turn off
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/24 11:06 PM
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Even if that’s true they almost always have an emotional support network whereas men usually don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:55 PM
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Saying nothing is disadvantageous to people at the lower end of the bargaining table. Pleading the fifth is most often an admission of guilt. In this case the guilt of being sexually inexperienced
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:42 PM
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You’re not a catch unless you’re all of the above and then some. People talk about toxic masculinity. That’s not the problem. It’s toxic expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:55 AM
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I’m rooting for him to call it off. It’s too messy to shit where you eat
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:45 PM
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single mom, conversely, views and all all single men as a potential wallet to dig deep into to provide for kids that are not his I have a female coworker who admitted this at a business lunch. She’s a single mom with 2 kids and her answer to why she was dating her awkward balding coworker was “he’s useful” Everyone around the office more or less knows he’s been running errands for her and buying her shit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:22 PM
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really means pick from this list of 7 things that are acceptable to have as hobbies Right. For example, things like fishing or video games are apparently a huge turn off to most women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:24 AM
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They just want you to internalize that you are not good enough. People who internalize this will “act out” and then they can just say that is why you can’t date. That was who you were the whole time. Extremely based answer, but if I may ask, why is your flair blue? I saw a graph on another sub. It was asserting red & blue = hopeful.. but red = non feminist and blue = pro feminist Meanwhile, black & pink are much less hopeful… but black tends to =non feminist and pink = pro feminist Your comment …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:04 AM
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You can and you will. You are 22. Very young. Your first love likely won’t even work out. If you’re like the rest of us the first, second or third heartbreak won’t be easy… but “Life finds a way” to quote Jurassic Park
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:30 AM
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I’ve just heard a lot of bootstrapping from conservatives, or “too bad that’s God’s plan for women to suffer” Things are changing in a weird way. We have atheist conservatives as CINOs (Christian in name only). The cultural Christian types, but the end result ends up being the same… too bad that’s Natures plan for women everyone except me to suffer
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:12 PM
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so many women have a hard time not understanding lonely men who want sex and relationships There it is. Maybe if it was just about sex you could jerk off into a sock and move on You’re human just like the rest of us and you need the human connection part of it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:09 PM
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Confidence without merit is merely arrogance Bingo. It’s arrogant and dishonest. And even if women want certain types of confidence, the mask is going to come off eventually so isn’t it silly to fake confidence without merit?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:26 AM
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For a serious relationship your values have to align at some level. Doesn’t mean partners have to vote the same way all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:24 AM
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I do know how to read and was also picking apart one annoying claim which grinds my gears. That hobbies are a positive sign of virtue. Otherwise I agree with everything else you said
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:18 PM
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hobbies and on whether or not you’re a good person Hobbies is really a factor on whether you’re a good person?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:43 PM
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Not sucking on anything or anyone , just talking about reality
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:22 PM
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Most of us men are absolutely inferior to high value men, nothing we can do about it as hard as we try
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:17 PM
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Downvote and run is the mark of a coward, tell me where you disagree and we can hash it out
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:10 PM
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I thought the solution could be harems but most alpha men don’t really want that long term
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:45 PM
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Right. This is an area where I feel like there is actual solidarity among men. Say what you will about the manosphere but I think it’s opened a lot of eyes to the male plight in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:13 AM
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It can work that way if you’re naturally confident but to me confidence is often a form of dishonesty
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:13 PM
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I don’t think he was dissing media but rather saying crying at a movie is an “ acceptable” display of vulnerability for a man An unacceptable display of vulnerability is crying because you’re a fraud and an unworthy loser
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:08 PM
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A man having an outburst is seen as a sign of weakness sign of inferiority is a more blunt way of putting it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:04 PM
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This needs profound cultural change from the ground up. It needs vulnerability for men and boys presented as normal and acceptable, right from early childhood. Even if the culture changes it’s not going to change our neurophysiology or biology in terms of what we’re attracted to. Cultural change could actually backfire in the sense that straight women could be (long term) less attracted to men displaying too much vulnerability. It is a sign of weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:59 PM
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Not necessarily love but women have an easier time finding peace by simply being themselves. Men don’t have inherent value in the same way women do. Especially if you’re below average sub mediocre
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:40 PM
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while most women will find real love at some point Not necessarily love. Most women will find peace and validation by being themselves most men will never experience real love Love is an emotion that wears off. It’s more than a few who will experience it but what most people c
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:35 PM
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and there is a hierarchy which you may have alluded to Attractive father - most respect Attractive bachelor/ unattractive father - conditional respect Unattractive bachelor - very little respect
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 12:33 AM
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I’m just confused by (currently) the zero/negative upvotes to your post. PPD is supposed to be neutral and nothing you said was extreme or controversial. You didn’t do anything wrong to your male friend. People experience pain and he went thru a lot. Sometimes shit just sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:36 PM
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Tinder is mostly a hookup app and men are more interested in casual sex than women Apps are how people meet these days. In my social circle, you either meet at work or you meet online. Tinder itself isn’t the problem, it just happens to be the most widely used. Even as a guy who isn’t hyper thirsty for sex on date #1, it’s still best option simply due to it being the most widely used. I’d suspect a lot of women use tinder for the same reason of getting the best sample size, the best chances of f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:18 PM
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dutiful beta to “step up” to provide for them and possibly Chad’s kids In my younger years I was much more idealistic about raising another man’s kids. I figured oof not the kids fault bad boy dad walked out on them. These days I’m more inclined to see it as insulting to view beta bux men as a “resource” a cold hearted means to an end
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:43 PM
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You don't get to be the problem and the solution at the same time You know what’s funny is at first I actually upvoted you because I agreed with this part. I was honestly just trying to bring some thoughtful nuance but apparently I’m a ‘MORON’ for mischaracterizing a movie from 2005 smh which the characters names were beside the point i was trying to make anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:24 PM
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Right. My point about the asymmetry. Even a woman who has enough libido to want sex 20% of the time… the societal expectation is men should want it 100% of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:11 PM
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I said some pct… a small percentage… You really think it’s that controversial? In the same way some pct of men are attracted to the ‘mean girl’ Lindsey Lohan archetype?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:04 PM
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I think the larger point is even if we put a social stigma around aggression and somehow stomp most of it out, there will always be some pct of women looking for those primal traits
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:39 PM
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if you have no t and no brains then ur really fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:35 PM
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Bumble just punted on the issue. There is still the asymmetry of a majority of women being more selective, and it’s understandable. Biologically they need to have high quality seed since they bear the risk of carrying a fetus for 9 months
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:32 PM
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I experienced a relationship where that didn’t work. If I had to estimate, I was maybe vibing 25% of the time and she was around the same, but we were always mismatching as far as her not being in the mood or me not being in the mood. The traditional expectations are that the guy is supposed to pretty much always be in the mood. Whenever she’s ready you have to be ready to go for it. Like an aggressive pet wanting to get out of its cage. That’s not me and I might not be alone in this regard? Or …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:24 PM
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I guess that’s fair. For me I even noticed a decline in my mid 20s so I could be a statistical outlier
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:13 PM
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Low t usually means low libido. You might be dismissing that side of what most straight women want, despite your personal experiences with your social circle
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:57 PM
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Of course we can, but at some point the insanity of trying everything under the sun, and every combination of this & that, it really does take its toll mentally
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:45 PM
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In my experience, it can be a healthy thing at first (at least during the honeymoon phase) but after a while women become highly capable of emotionally abusing men. I learned that the hard way. It’s so far from sugar & spice and everything nice
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:42 PM
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*nods Still baffling that people have to ignore the asymmetry that’s existed throughout human history and is clearly being amplified on dating apps today
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:30 PM
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On the other end of the spectrum, naivety & lying to yourself is also a recipe for a bad life
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:14 PM
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The higher your internal self-esteem If you’re over 30 low self esteem is probably valid, you can’t change your genes and most amounts of effort or self improvement is just blowing in the wind
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:02 PM
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Not everyone can block out the fact even if women show vague interest in us , they are still sizing us up and judging our superiority or inferiority
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:59 PM
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He said he doesn’t consider himself attractive. Likely his status as married which does make him more attractive or maybe high natural aptitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:37 PM
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I’d suspect you probably won’t have many downvotes at all wanting men to gain self-respect means you're misandric and want them to die alone I think the resistance from men is when people point the finger at men saying lack of success is their own fault Believe it or not, men often do try their best and some keep striking out. Rejection takes its toll on men just as much as it does for women (arguably more so because of limited options)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:56 PM
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I’d argue this MH hunter has exceptional genes and a high natural aptitude for flourishing in any environment. So for a thought experiment, let’s say your hunter had parents who moved to a western country before birth. Went through schooling, was culturally assimilated etc. Chances are with his natural abilities and aptitude he would thrive by finding something he’s good at such as trades, manufacturing, construction, warehousing, manual labor and it’s highly likely he would climb the ranks havi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:38 PM
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time limit assuming you work full time Yup. You have to choose your priorities. “Have a career, have a side hustle, have a gym membership, have interesting hobbies, have a social network, be there for your family” and now one more thing with the pets smh
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:38 PM
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Were you glowing with confidence that day? Standing up straight? all the good stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:29 PM
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Right. Your heart has to be in it. Whether committing to a rescue cat or forcing yourself into a hobby you know you won’t like… if it’s not for you don’t force it just to increase smv or rmv
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:19 PM
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being masculine means having higher highs and lower lows. but being able to hit higher highs makes it superior This is almost assuming every man is a psychotic hedonist who strives for those highs that only come once in a while anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:40 AM
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OPs point was men have to do at least 5 things: 1) work out/exercise 2) have hobbies 3) dress better 4) be charismatic 5) get rich SO much effort into their appearance, their socialization skills, their public perception Women do have to exercise and dress nice (#1 & 3) and they go the extra miles so that’s concedable. However, women do not need to have riches to attract a male, nor do they need to have explicit hobbies or be charismatic. Of course it helps but it’s not a harsh demand men put on…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:16 AM
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Generally speaking no but if the pure blue boys and girls are right.. then yes keep building your models there is “someone out there for everyone”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:22 PM
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Low effort
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:24 PM
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What hypocrisy? The hypocrisy is embedded in the lack of introspection I already mentioned. It’s very common for modern feminists to expect men to be introspective while evading much of their own self reflection. Because it is. And most scholars agree “Most scholars” are neutral on it. Its critics are a vocal minority. There is no broad scholarly consensus against it as far as I’m aware What is there to be uncomfortable about? I think theres lots of reasons for the discomfort. Part of it is peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:16 PM
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Legal protections are fine. I have advocated for them, will continue to and still consider myself an ally in a lot of ways. My issue is when it crosses into the culture wars, blaming patriarchy & men for all of society’s problems without any introspection Why do you consider evolutionary psychology bunk? Haven’t the scholars done enough homework and earned proper accreditation? Or is it that the conclusions make people uncomfortable?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:56 AM
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The only male privilege is the alpha males at the top who own the conglomerate that owns the drive thru. The middle management males who help run things are not to be envied. Those jobs suck
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:36 AM
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Key word mostly and yes of course some limited emotions are required My point was this, simping is often a deeper sign of insecurity and thus naturally unchangeable inferiority, just like lack of confidence is often a deeper sign of inferior feelings Im self aware I know I’m projecting to a large extent but there is an asymmetry that you and others seem to be ignoring. It’s the simple fact that women are more picky than men because evolution designed it that way. Women need to be very picky and …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:21 AM
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Not always toxic. Obviously you can take what I say with a grain of salt since all circumstances are unique but I’m drawing from one relationship I had in particular. At first we were people pleasures, it worked great (at first). The downfall was more of my insecurities (combined with hers) but more importantly combined with her losing faith in me as a human being. Likewise I did not lose faith or trust in her despite all of her insecurities I was always 100% committed to her This goes back to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:04 AM
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By that definition, can't women also be simps then? There's women who are doormats just like men. Sure but there is an asymmetry worth acknowledging. Women will always have more options and therefore much less likely to be simps. That’s basic biology and Ev Psych I think simp men and simp women would actually be the best match for each other Ehh I’ve actually been there. It’s problematic. Two insecure people dating each other ended up being a pretty toxic relationship in my experience and opport…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:48 AM
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Lots of red pillers are obsessed with declining birth rates. For me that’s a non-issue. I’m more interested in the hypocrisy of 3rd & 4th wave feminists and how feminism ignores the reality of evolutionary psychology
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:50 PM
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True. I think the grievance men feel (myself included) is the status quo notion that most effort should fall on men. I like treating women exceptionally but unless she feels I’m an extremely unique catch then it’s game over. The uncomfortable reality is men are extremely judged harshly based on based on the subconscious cultural hierarchy that’s seems invisible to most
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:52 PM
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At this point it doesn’t matter if I think I found an exception. She’s going to reject me “softly” by pulling away as she realizes my inferiority
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:22 AM
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They don’t want to rule the world … most seem to want a balance of matriarchy & patriarchy. They just have the delusion that most men can realistically meet their toxic expectations. I’ve said before and I’ll say it again, we aren’t stoic robots
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:10 AM
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Simping is lacking confidence and showing signs of inferiority
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:01 AM
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You’re making some immature assumptions if you condescendingly think I haven’t already been through basic therapy. I have. 4 times. I didn’t include this in my OP since personal anecdotes are frowned upon and very often used as a way to dismiss or discredit
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 06:00 PM
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Coping can be nice but often involves some sort of self deception. I can’t lie to myself
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 03:34 PM
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Insane by definition is trying the same thing over & over and expecting different results. It seems like figuring out an exit plan would be a little less insane
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 03:16 PM
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No way around this as a short term solution. Good examples of matriarchy have been indigenous tribes in North America, but even these matriarchs have outsourced war/defense to alpha males We need a balance of both masculine and feminine. Opposing patriarchy without pointing to an empirical example of when pure matriarchy worked is like libertarians or even far left communists struggling find a solid example of when theory actually becomes reality
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:33 PM
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Beta males should be able to hit the delete button rather than be coerced into a society where they aren’t valued or respected
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:18 PM
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I’d argue a substantial majority of women are still pro patriarchy. When you drill down most men could be open to something a little different Yes there are a lot of lazy men, but when women have more power the inferiority of certain males becomes much more clear and vivid
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 01:33 PM
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Right. When the pendulum swings even toward the middle, women still seem to have the same biases regarding male expectations. Not necessarily a bad thing (it’s EvPysch), I just wish society would accept it for what it is rather than lying about it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 01:11 PM
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Ehhh I’m far from being a “female advocate” by any means but is that really win win for both sides? Wouldn’t there be a lot of women taking the prostitution job only for the money but they’re miserable doing it? In the same way men accept jobs they hate which feel degrading and leads to misery
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 07:08 PM
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Yup “cat ladies” is an outdated stereotype in my opinion. Beta males being disrespected is a tale as old as time
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 07:02 PM
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Fair point. So what are you advocating for specifically? Taxing the rich so middle class men can afford prostitutes? Or is the pure legalization of prostitution your top priority?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:53 PM
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Fair point, and guys like me are likely in the bottom percentage in the spectrum of capable men. Not all anxieties are invalid. If we sense we may be unworthy of dating women, it’s cuz we literally are
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:22 PM
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I’d say yes and no. They would be begging for male attention but at the same time… many of us still value long term commitment. Some of us want kids(not me) and others simply want the health benefits of being in a committed long term relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:16 PM
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I’m actually happy now. I wanted to create intellectual discussion about the nuances of therapy as it relates to the male plight. I made it happen with 200+ comments I actually have seen 4 therapists and found varying degrees of value in each of them. I didn’t mention my personal experience in my OP because it personal anecdotes tend to turn people off
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:13 PM
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I have more than 0 matches on tinder but women tend to have toxic unrealistic harmful expectations for men. We aren’t stoic robots. We don’t exist to entertain them. We’re just as human as they are
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:05 PM
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We live in the real world. People need hard empirical evidence in order to move forward. American democracy happened because Franklin, Jefferson, and others were actually borrowing from other societies such as the British common law, Iroquois democracies, Greek democracy, the Roman republic Likewise if we want a new economic model it’s gonna take more than saying communism good other systems bad
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 05:21 PM
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Social capitalist is a bizarre viewpoint that I don't have so I wouldn't use it either Is that not a valid characterization of what’s happening in every western country outside the United States? Canada, UK, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Costa Rica, Botswana
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:56 PM
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I think we see eye to eye
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:40 PM
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because it works for them but not a silver bullet
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:30 PM
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I’ve been through the grinder 4 times. Four different therapists. When the time came for therapist 2 , I was aware of CBT. I even brought CBT up but he dismissed it as he was clinging to the family systems model
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:29 PM
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Appreciate your insight. So why do you consider yourself a communist rather than democratic socialist or social capitalist? Seems like a losing battle at least from a messaging standpoint
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:13 PM
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Agreed but most people are so far removed from economic policy. It’s all about Ukraine, Israel, Palestine, transgender drama, pro choice stuff, culture wars, juvenile drama
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:03 PM
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guys around here (that struggle with dating) need to get offline I’d argue for balance. Women do value men who can maintain friendships, and these days male friendships are often formed by online PvP Call of Duty etc. I personally don’t get any kicks out of that I like living in the real world
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:44 PM
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As for the chicken or the egg question, does reality cause perspective or does perspective cause reality? in my case reality caused my perspective and realistic attitude. Nobody just wakes up suddenly wanting to have a negative attitude smh
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:32 AM
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I’d argue therapy really doesn’t make you a better person and certainly not a moral person. At best it’s just supposed to help you cope with an amoral universe that could give 2 shits about you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:27 AM
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If you expect a pussy reward, no Lol “every man only wants one thing” of course we’re 2 dimensional creatures
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:21 AM
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Who the fuck downvoted me on this?? This was an actual experience I had. I did everything society told me to do. Do you want the names of the so called experts so you can downvote them on google maps? Or do you assholes just hate anyone with unfavorable experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:14 AM
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*nods
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:03 AM
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If I could get off to a tree stump my life would be euphoric
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:55 AM
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We will continue to hear this toxic phobia around negative feelings “ewww he should just go to therapy ickkkk”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:37 AM
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Impressive you went thru that. Sincere props but you’re talking to the wrong guy if you wanna preach about trying therapy for the first time
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:12 AM
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You’re oversimplifying the problem. Men have trouble expressing emotions thus the man vs bear dilemma and the reverse of it is woman vs tree or brick wall
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:33 AM
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men find someone they feel understood and comfortable being themselves with Never got to feel that in the states, or abroad for that matter. I has an online therapist who was in Romania but even her worldview was based on praying to a deity who isn’t real smh
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:29 AM
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The 1970 mark is likely more related to women being allowed to have credit rather than a departure from fiat currency. My opinion is, tax the rich, strengthen unions, bring back manufacturing wherever possible but dating asymmetries have almost nothing to do with the gold standard
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:11 AM
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Ehhh I don’t buy the idea that 1964 was the problem… if that is what you’re implying?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:01 AM
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My take is, we had a good thing going post WW2 and pre Reagan. Not that Reagan was all bad, we got 401ks and all that but the pendulum swung too far in one direction. Monogamy was the norm , it was a good economic model that people were happy with, still problematic as it was pre 1964 civil rights but there is something significant about this time period worth looking into
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:57 AM
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About strengthening the middle class?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:50 AM
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We are solutions based. I have some solutions when looking at the deteriorating middle class in my country & how that relates to how female attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:48 AM
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My urologist recommended him as a good sex therapist. After I admitted my religious upbringing may have been one small factor in my anxiety about masturbation thus contributing to my declining prostate, my douchebag urologist just suggested sex therapy, so yea idk what type of licenses you actually need for sex therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:33 AM
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I’ve never used those exact words but I have expressed my dissatisfaction to 1 therapist in particular and he emotionally reacted by saying “erghhh what do you want?” I wanted him to hear me out, which my gf at the time was unable to do
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:25 AM
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For me personally, I was listening and giving every prescription more of a chance than it deserved. For example I had a therapist saying the law of attraction or “the secret” ( documentary on Netflix) was the solution to everything
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:14 AM
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I’m 36 washed up tried everything under the sun, even tried “not trying” or not caring to focus on me. Did that for a while, went to Alaska & Hawaii had a nice time. Ultimately, people don’t care if you take time to be yourself. This isn’t the Truman show
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:05 AM
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First of all I’m a C student so I’m not “the catch” they want me to be from the start. Also, I’m a beta piece of shit who has a hard time building muscle
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 11:50 PM
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The world is biased against weakness, so yes since I’m mentally and physically weak the world is more or less out to get me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 11:39 PM
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Yup. When I saw a urologist he was extremely dismissive, assuming it was all psychological. Ultimately the therapist he recommended was subscribing to the law of attraction which is silly
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 11:36 PM
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I’ve through therapy 4 times, no value to my life, but I can already tell the world is out to get me because I don’t subscribe to it as the religion most people make it out to be
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 11:33 PM
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If OP hasn’t tried therapy, then it would be the next possible step but not “the answer” in the absolute sense for everyone. I’ve been through 4 different therapists, most of them were pretty clueless as to how to improve my mental state and cope with inferiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 09:37 PM
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The average man might go on 2 or 3 dates a year if he’s lucky. I’ve been broke before, we all have. Forking over an extra $90 a year isn’t going to kill you For me, as you alluded to, male mental health is something that needs a lot more attention. The misconception that men can magically deal with rejection and become resilient to it… that’s the bigger problem imo
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:19 AM
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I don’t think going Dutch vs men paying was ever that big of an issue. That was always more of a red herring. It was a socially acceptable middle ground thing to waste time about when this was a neutral sub. Since incel, mgtow & fds subs got stamped out this sub is more polarizing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:06 AM
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You know what’s funny? I actually dated a girl who wanted me to play more video games. She had broken up with her bf who was playing too much, but when I just wanted to be outside and be active, she criticized my mindset and told me video games sharpens the mind. She ended up pulling away from me because she thought I was stupid and inferior compared to her ex
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:41 PM
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Every man can get a great body and earn six figures I almost want to upvote you based on how funny you are Very often both of those come at a trade off. For example I was pulling in $80k but was unhappy in my position. I quit my job and found enough time and natural energy to get in the best shape of my life When my savings started running low I got back in the workforce and rebooted my career. However the stress of work (in my case) really doesn’t provide the mental energy for the self improvem…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:36 PM
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3 decent options. I like a little bit of each
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:24 PM
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Yup, and if you haven’t gotten yourself together by a certain age it’s a sign of natural inferiority. Women pick up on these things, natural selection built it into them, and rightfully so
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:23 PM
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Respectfully, anyone with an IQ above 70 should be aware Icelanders are not living in mud huts. If you think matriarchy is the way to go, how do we get there? I don’t think voting for someone just because she’s female is the way to go. Lots of women are still pro patriarchy, Lauren Bobert, Marjorie Taylor Green, arguably even HRC , Tulsi Gabert
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 12:35 AM
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36, 6’1, masters degree, semi decent career I suppose. I’m renting. Extremely insecure. Always had fairly poor libido. My prostate has been fucked since my early 20s. Been dealing with painful ejaculation for the past 8 years. Urologist just told me to see a therapist which didn’t help for shit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 12:19 AM
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Of course they are but it’s an isolated island with only 300,000 or so people. The variables are much easier to manage. In the states, we are talking about a chaotic population 1000x the size of Iceland with millions of people with vastly different values Iceland does have the advantage of being that calm chill isolated nation with the luxury of deciphering between patriarchy & matriarchy and deciding the right balance & blend that works for them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 11:22 PM
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because humans are humans. I’m 36 I’ve been beating this drum for over 10 years that in America we should be learning from successes of other countries Ultimately nobody gives a shit, both men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 10:35 PM
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Iroquois tribes were mostly egalitarian but they lost due to brute force from the west. I don’t see how matriarchy can win or how it’s beneficial to beta males
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 10:13 PM
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It’s a good country that largely did away with religion (Christianity is patriarchal) but is that realistic everywhere else? Of course not
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 10:10 PM
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I don’t think it’s quite 99%, there are a lot of men who have been sincerely trying to check all the boxes and be worthy of women but they clearly aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 10:01 PM
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The issue is many of us have been very proactive but it doesn’t result in anything. If you think you’re communicating to teenagers who haven’t given life a chance, that’s one thing. It’s another thing to assume any man is capable of checking the boxes modern women need, despite every ounce of honest effort
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 09:55 PM
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Women want the experienced, confident, wealthy, tall, partner. But to be this type of person, outside of just being born tall, in many cases requires one to be a terrible human being. Many women do value the dark triads, and even those that don’t… in my experience morality is absolutely not what the vast majority of women are looking for. When they say they want “confidence” they mean they at least want the illusion of superiority (even if they have to settle)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 09:41 PM
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I don’t think he’s doubting your success … your “be the best version of yourself” narrative isn’t helping I’m pretty sure it’s crossed everyone mind that they can be the best version of themselves. That’s not the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 09:27 PM
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twice as many women in our lineage as there are men This makes a lot of people uncomfortable. Both men and women. Nobody likes to admit this. It's ok for women to have standards, and for them to not choose you Agreed and this also makes a lot of people uncomfortable. Both men and women. Men don’t like to admit this cuz they don’t like admitting their own inferiority, and other men are simply lazy & don’t wanna be proactive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 09:17 PM
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repeat of the last time you posted here where you made the same points making a series of baseless assertions about red pill but have worded them differently here. If you're so much better than "bitter red pillers" and marriage has been such a resounding success for you then why are you spending so much time trying to argue with them here? Same goes for a lot of blue pilled guys who apparently “feel fine about themselves” but constantly come here to punch down… so they can feel fine about themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:32 PM
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People who talk like OP are most likely miserable/unsuccessful and are just coping with a LARP. Why would a genuinely successful individual feel the need to try to anonymously go online and "punch down" on what he perceives are a bunch of pathetic, angry losers? They wouldn't. Right. If I was in a healthy relationship I wouldn’t constantly waste time creating posts like this. At best, it is a narcissistic move and an immoral sadistic move at worst
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:18 PM
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If you're matching at your level why would it take work? You don't need to work to be at the level you're already at. Yup. This. God forbid you be yourself as a man
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:12 PM
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Yup. OP has a weird beef with the red pill in particular. Do even a slight majority of red pill men actually view women as subhuman? Maybe or maybe not but I’d argue no it’s the exact opposite. Red pillers more often see themselves as unworthy so they develop a strategy to recalibrate and focus on self improvement
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:01 PM
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This is just an outlet for a lot of us. It’s not even gender wars as much as the need for a necessary outlet, a little more so for men. If I had to guess, the gender ratio in this sub is at least 60/40 , more men. Also, your characterization of red pill guys viewing women as subhuman might be accurate but should be noted most black pill guys view themselves as subhuman, often putting women on a pedestal, same could be said for purple pill guys
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 10:49 PM
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but do you still think society actually needs a 1:1 ratio? Lots of men would still be disposable (myself included) if we aren’t good at infrastructure jobs and women are better at administrative work
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:32 AM
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When comes to physical ability, men and women are simply not equal Most people are aware of this. I don’t think anyone in this sub is disputing it. The problem is, just cuz we’re physically stronger than women doesn’t necessarily mean we’re worthy of dating them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:14 AM
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So they’d have to settle? For men who try their best but still don’t check all the boxes?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 09:06 PM
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Misandry is a fact of life. Women have inherent value. Men don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:53 PM
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mining, construction, farming, mason, derrick, even fishing, etc, etc Harsh reality. Not all modern men are capable of succeeding in those professions
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:44 PM
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Vilified. A substantial majority of people ( including myself) actually want women to have abortion rights. We’re allies and we’re also villains?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:23 PM
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*nods
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:15 PM
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Or to OPs point they wouldn’t miss us very much. They’d adjust
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:39 PM
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Normal straight women would be lonely or forced to be part of the harems of mediocre guys. Was that a typo? Did you mean to say HVM?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:37 PM
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Fair point but then libertarians could say the same thing. For example, we never actually got to fully test what Hayek or those guys were proposing. For the record, I’d easily side with Marx over Ayn Rand but pragmatically it’s gonna be enough of an uphill battle to get the US to the level of other western countries as far as safety nets, worker solidarity, unionization rates, etc
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/24 12:57 PM
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Socialism IS bad if we equate it with Soviet style communism. The internet will be forever confused about this so that’s why I’m inclined to drop the socialist label. I’ve thought about using modified capitalism, social capitalism, which has been proven to work even in the US pre Reagan
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/24 01:38 AM
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Men shame sexless men too but yea I agree. For women, they often treat sexless men the same way employers treat candidates with no job history. Seen as possible red flag. Too much uncertainty. The time investment becomes more of a risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:43 PM
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Shortsighted lol. Most people don’t have time for long essays. It doesn’t mean shortsightedness, as long as it’s not overtly low effort Anyways, yea I actually don’t disagree at all. K-12 & academia is not only biased against boys but against kinesthetic hands on oriented learners
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:10 AM
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You incur bills to survive, if you don’t pay your bills you go to jail, it isn’t the exact same path as actual force but the result is the same. People aren’t where they want to be. I guess that was my point. Sorry your highness
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:23 AM
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Yup, you interpreted me correctly. That’s exactly what I meant. 2024 is exactly like slavery. The word conscription is quite different than the horrors of pre 1865 America. Conscription can mean if you only have 5 employment options and all of them will be brutal to your mental health… better than the past but still not a good situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:08 AM
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Maybe I was reading it with confirmation biased glasses but it seemed like OP was at least somewhat critical of capitalism? Perhaps pointing out some hypocrisy since feminists criticize capitalism but also ironically vetting during the dating process in an extremely similar way CEOs vet during the hiring process. Not saying men need women in the same way people need jobs for survival but there are interesting parallels for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:00 AM
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Dairy Queen
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:53 AM
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I was there. The government made us do it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:49 AM
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No one is conscripted into their job in the Western world. They apply for them; are interviewed; and subsequently accepted or rejected. Who actually likes spending the majority of their waking lives away from family, friends, hobbies and interests? I realize work is inherent to life and these problems run deeper than capitalism but to say we aren’t conscripted is a bit laughable to me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:47 AM
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You made a lot of points but most of which I agree with Because women lacked autonomy before due to male-preferential law and culture, they had to latch onto a man to be able to survive and have any income This is an obvious point that doesn’t get emphasized enough. Monogamy worked back then because women needed men. Perhaps they were always viewing us as utilities but what do i know. I like to think they were more attracted to us back then when we had a clearly defined sense of purpose
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:00 AM
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feminists were drinking male tears I missed the memo on that one
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:57 AM
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Focus on brawn over brain I guess? Meanwhile girls are focusing on brain over brawn. The results are showing and it’s embarrassing. In an ironic sort of way poor test scores in boys should be concerning for everyone. Men, women, cons, libs, feminists, MRAs but it gets swept to the side because of modern social conditioning
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:52 AM
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Do they still have to do the majority of chores and childcare? Could very well be a factor Does their partner not support their career? If a woman is flourishing in her career, the only stumbling block I can think of is if it makes the man feels insecure and unworthy of her All I know is during the dating process women do seem to aim socioeconomically up whereas men take what they can get
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:50 AM
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they don't like when their partner outearns them either This could be a chicken or the egg thing. In my experience the possible reason men don’t like it is because women really don’t seem to like earning 60 to his 40. So is the reason women don’t like being 60 because they fear men don’t like it? Or do we have to drill down further into infinite regression lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:34 AM
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Do you believe women must cook for you before you even start dating? No. I don’t give a shit about that. It’s a nice gesture and I had a gf who cooked for me simply because she was a foodie who enjoyed experimenting with different spices etc I realize there are guys out there who consider that a virtue when they want a tradwife. I can’t say anything beyond that. I know folks here value data and statistics (and rightfully so) but nobody credible is doing a “study” on men’s cooking preferences as …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 02:36 AM
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Post like this are once again trying to tell men "this mental health crisis is all in you head and 100% your own fault. Women are made of sugar and spice and everything nice and blameless” Yup. Admittedly I’ve never read anyone claiming it being 100% the fault of men, but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to read between the lines & realize social conditioning has left us with this mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 01:54 AM
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what would you say to women who are in a mental health crisis because of all the shit men in the manosphere say about women? I’d say false equivalency. Women are more emotionally resilient simply cuz it’s socially acceptable for women to have emotions. Also, women support women in broad measures. Men don’t support men, generally speaking Even men who have common legal interests in custody battles for example… at the end of the day they still have a natural inclination to compete, which does not …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 01:47 AM
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As it stands now there are 8 states which allow 3rd trimester abortions. Oregon, Vermont, Minnesota, Michigan, Colorado, New Mexico, New Jersey, and Alaska. I would think between California, Illinois, New England (outside of Vermont) there are certainly left leaning state legislators and reasonable Dems who are drawing the line after the 2nd trimester
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:36 PM
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maybe “”happy”” lol but definitely not at peace (which is where a lot of us need to be)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:22 PM
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desperate bitter red pillers who rage over my relationship being happy By a show of hands, who is actually mad that OP is happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:00 PM
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Agreed. Admitting it is a sign of weakness which is why people suppress any inclinations to admit they might be less than happy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:24 AM
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What feminism sought was to simply allow women to side step the negative aspects of the patriarchy while still benefitting from it. Facts. Still complacent to capitalism
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:01 AM
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The problem is women end up spitting in the faces of beta males who are also victims of capitalism rather than going after the alphas who dictate the patriarchal power structure
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:51 PM
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Vulnerability is perhaps the keyword. Agreed. It was a turn off. I’ve attracted women only by hiding my vulnerability, and only lost their attraction by revealing too much of it over time To be fair, they want some vulnerability once in a while. I don’t think they don’t want stoic robots either but the value they place on ‘confidence’ in is silly to me but understandable from the Ev Psych perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:40 PM
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It goes way beyond height. The Joe Rogan clip you linked was interesting. He basically got her to admit the problem with her ex bf wasn’t that he lost a fight or looked pathetic. The problem is she’s a female boxer and needed the status of dating a superior male fighter
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:22 PM
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while men can generally shut up and die for all they care Shut up and be a cog in the machine, or otherwise yes shut up and die
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:52 AM
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I find it pointless to have emotions about this I find it pointless too. I’m a stoic robot so I always click no emotions
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:07 AM
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Yup almost worse than psychological toll of rejection by employers
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:04 AM
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I actually trust their intentions more than most blue & white pill guys
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 11:56 PM
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A few men were vastly favored historically, the other men treated like cannon fodder Yup, and in some ways we’re still stuck there. The problem is many men still have this delusional fantasy thinking they can be the big man on top and get there by inflicting suffering on others. Likewise, many women still seem to favor these unethical traits during mate selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 11:26 PM
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All of the above is tougher on men psychologically, divorce & breakups as well as the negative feelings from simply being single https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3635122/ “poorer health of divorced and single men relative to their married counterparts; moreover there also appears to be a gender effect with divorced and single men experiencing poorer health outcomes than single women” “adverse mortality risk for men who remain unmarried or experience martial dissolution” Ok, and men i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:56 AM
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Yes and unfortunately many marriages won’t last. Women are more likely to initiate divorce, and divorce is psychologically harder on men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:15 AM
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Personally I think it’s at least 60% and I think it’s fairly intuitive that most guys think it’s above 50%
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:55 AM
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This is my second profile no joke. I’ll give you my first it’s u/forever__sleep that’s me, I will be as transparent as I can I took a break from Reddit during 2022ish , was actually too busy with work, doing too much overtime which burned me out By the way, you do seem like a simplistic judgmental person
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:48 AM
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Ehh very few and even those who weren’t still had a pretty good sixth sense about determining which men are weak or not worthy and which were acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:39 AM
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Yes absolutely, and that’s not a good thing to have to endure. I would still argue there is still an asymmetry between the mental anguish that men go through vs what women go through. Women are more emotionally resilient. Part of this is honestly the fault of men in the way we interact with each other vs the way women interact with each other. Women support each other during hard times. Men not so much, and it’s for a variety of reasons. Partially some men are afraid of being weak, some men are …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:34 AM
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Nice. We get it you can be robotic and cool. Your statement assumes I’m here because I want help, and I’m suggesting I don’t need help from blue pillies, I just like you to admit you’re just like every other blue pill here. Wanting to punch down so you can feel better about yourself. Am I wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:12 AM
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You did edit your post which is an unfair tactic so let me please respond to your main addition. Average women are generally not beautiful, nor intelligent. Beauty can be subjective but most men have no problem with dating a cutie with some imperfections The average woman actually is more intelligent than your average man, and this is perhaps at the root of the asymmetry. Girls outperform boys in school, college degrees are increasingly likely attained by women I’ve honestly never met a woman wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:00 AM
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Some are yes but there is absolutely still an asymmetry. I realize it’s not as drastic as the famous 80/20 tinder stats, we can open our eyes to see there aren’t literally harems of chads with multiple women walking around but dating is harder for men even if the states are closer to 60/40 or something
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:43 AM
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lol if you don’t care then why you here? I still don’t understand the motives of blue & white pill people
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:25 AM
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Oh goodness, with all due respect, this is not profound or helpful. I think it’s already fairly intuitive to most that extroverts have better luck not just in dating but with life in general. It’s not your responsibility to do anything but it’s usually the dismissiveness of the plight of lesser men which tends to irk me and others too
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:09 AM
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Fair, but I’d argue another fallacy is that all men can handle the mad game of trial & error, which is continuous rejection and does take a major toll on our mental health, well being, and sense of self worth. And please don’t say “go to therapy” there was a post about that a couple days ago
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:58 AM
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It’s not as bad as prehistoric times but it is still asymmetrical in the sense that women have to be way more selective for embedded biological reasons that still can’t be erased overnight. All the risks they have to take to find romance and/or sex are usually not worth it for the average guy, but they will much more often take the risk for a high value man
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:45 AM
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But reddit told me every woman I know is fucking a new Chad every night. I don’t know anyone (seriously credible, communicating in good faith, not trolling) who’s actually saying that. I think the broader concerns of the manosphere are valid in the sense that most average women do chase after & strongly desire above average men, for relationship aspirations, not literally for sex every night There’s an asymmetry in the sense that many or most average men aren’t chasing after ‘Stacie’. We’re perf…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:35 AM
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I hope you aren’t shaming people for not being extroverts
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:16 AM
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They often already have kids anyway. I have no interest in raising someone else’s kids and it can also be a red flag on multiple fronts
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:08 AM
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This wacky post is an exception to the rule. Others have pointed out OP is a troll, not a male advocate
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:20 PM
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You’re saying women are at fault because they wanna look nice for us? Lol I don’t think I can quite get behind this one
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:11 PM
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Dostoevsky fans do tend to act smug lol. The Brothers Karamazov had interesting themes, like the tension between the archetypes but most of it was a chore to get through
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:26 AM
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so they can stop complaining that nature is unfair Was your takeout away from these books that nature is in fact fair? Tbh I read The Red Queen perhaps with a little confirmation bias but it didnt drastically change my view of nature being unfair I will check out the other 2. I read some Dawkins during my earlier deconversion years
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:14 AM
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Male therapists aren’t any better. I’ve experienced the dismissive female therapists and I’ve also had male therapists who put up a superficial front, effectively just as dismissive
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 08:03 PM
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empty platitudes and were waiting for the session to be over Yup. It’s just a job like any other job. Unrealistic expectations on the terms of both parties In defense of the the patient, society/social media has programmed us to think therapy is a magical fairy tale solution, aka dismissiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 08:00 PM
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Low effort
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:44 PM
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I’m 36, been to therapy 4 times. It’s not completely useless especially when you have nowhere else to turn but also not the fairy tale people make it out to be Therapists don’t care about your baggage. At least in my experience most therapists are very rigid about sticking with the therapeutic model they believe in whether it’s CBT, the family system theory, or the law of attraction Yes, I actually had a therapist who was promoting ‘The Secret’ as the only solution to everything. I was in such a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:23 PM
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Most males beta, delta, sigma, omega are 100% disposable. Historically, societies didn’t need most men to repopulate the tribe. The lucky few have been able to get the job done. I used to be a feminist ally but lately it’s hard to see past the self interest
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:57 AM
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He’s good in bed. He has something that some of us don’t. Either bigger dick size or longer lasting erections or maybe just the pure confidence that those things don’t matter as much to women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:22 AM
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Hmm then he’s likely to be more sexually virile than average
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:41 PM
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You married him because he’s lucky with superior genetics that made you attracted to him. It very often the case that we can’t change ourselves no matter how hard we try. Despite the blue & white pill judgementalism
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:13 PM
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These same chicks have no problem with the dude abusing other people Yup thus why toxic masculinity gets rewarded
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:36 PM
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The tree won’t consider it “emotional labor.” This. I always thought it was odd how women use that phrase. As if dealing with a man’s vulnerability is this painful unpleasant chore.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:46 AM
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Doubling down on the tree. No fake virtues about wanting men open up emotionally but feeling the ick when we actually do
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:51 AM
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There is an asymmetry https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3635122/ “poorer health of divorced and single men relative to their married counterparts; moreover there also appears to be a gender effect with divorced and single men experiencing poorer health outcomes than single women” “adverse mortality risk for men who remain unmarried or experience martial dissolution”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 11:54 PM
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Well that’s not what OP said. It’s not me. Many of us wanted or still hope for commitment & romance There are a lot of red pill guys who might come on here but maybe not the best microcosm of society
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 11:15 PM
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Most men are absolutely capable of caring for themselves and being self sufficient and most do. When did I say they weren’t? If you thought I implied that you misinterpreted. I’m saying simple things like having a good job and keeping underwear off the floor is often still not good enough I was honestly in an opposite situation where a woman my own age was still living with her parents but wanted me to be her daddy. I wanted an equal relationship I didn’t want or need her to be mommy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 11:00 PM
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Do you think a bunch of men just woke up one day and decided to affirmatively think “I wanna be miserable and think of myself as worthless” By and large these conclusions come from real life experiences , it’s not a self fulfilling prophecy, it’s an honest grip of reality
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 10:43 PM
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Fairly equally? …. Well divorce is psychologically harder on men than it is on women. That’s been documented. I’d also argue shorter term breakups are harder on men as we do have fragile egos feeling “less than” I’d never argue women have an obligation to stay in a relationship if they’re unhappy, but what’s often the case is she’s unhappy due to the man’s natural inferiority. If the man is inferior physically, sexually, intellectually, financially, athletically etc she can’t force herself to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 10:27 PM
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Pump & dump is a small minority of men, chads and such. I stand by the idea that most men do want romance and commitment. Women are designed to be more selective. This isn’t even just EvPsych it’s my personal experience
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 10:05 PM
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Reeves book was a little disappointing, but he’s still the closest credible figure even if he was promoting bootstrap fairly tale The pros , he’s established in academia. There is respectability there among the masses. Most social media LWAs do not have those credentials. Also he claims to have been advocating in his career for marginalized groups related to class structure More pros he acknowledges how women are more likely to initiate divorce than men, how divorce is psychologically harder on …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/24 11:05 PM
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First of all, your characterization of the black pill was a toxic assumption that everyone who leans that way must be bitter, miserable and blaming everyone else. I’m not the happiest guy, but in a metaphysical sense, I don’t blame anyone for anything. It all just is what it is. Black pill as I always saw it was a repudiation of the idea that everyone can find love if they try hard enough So when people come around promoting the opposite pill (white pill) it strikes me as victim blaming, since o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:52 PM
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As you seem to define it, I see the white pill as naive irresponsible negligence. I’m not saying the black pill is a healthy thing to constantly obsess over, but the idea that lesser men can simply be positive and try harder is often a fairly tale.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:22 PM
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Agree but overall sounds a little judgmental and victim blaming
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:09 PM
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This is actually semi-decent advice. It’s good to find a cause you’re sincerely passionate about and get involved. However, in my experience, volunteering still doesn’t help if you are lacking confidence and showing signs of genetic inferiority. Women almost seem to value confidence more than sincere displays of positive moral intentions
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:04 AM
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What is the white pill. Enlighten me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:25 AM
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I don’t think Brian atlas is that compatible with pearl … but it does seem odd how the guy is still single since at this point since he is pretty high status and well established On the other hand, he could be still damaged from previous heartbreaks but then again, that superchat 💵💵💵
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:02 AM
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I’m actually baffled people are calling her ugly. My first reaction to her pierce morgan clip was this crazy chick is kinda cute. I didn’t realize she was 6’1 tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:46 AM
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Richard Reeves could be the closest? I remember at one point Scott Galloway was criticizing Jordan Petersons advice to younger men but Galloway is only slightly to the left of Peterson. Not left wing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/24 01:25 AM
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It doesn’t end up cucking for the fundamentalist Islamic societies since they force women into monogamy & loyalty. I’m not a fan of coercion but for the record I don’t think we can really lump Christianity & Islam into the same category when it comes to the dynamics of dating
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 06:07 AM
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I’m still on the side of the manosphere but I’ve seen a lot, been through a lot and don’t see any harm in calling a spade a spade. We shouldn’t lie to ourselves about anything
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:49 PM
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but as men we’re supposed to magically have some type of resilience to this type of rejection. Which we don’t. We aren’t stoic statues. We aren’t robots. People talk about toxic masculinity. I think the optimal phrase is toxic expectations. There’s a reason why male mental health is shit
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 11:51 PM
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It is biology, this entire subreddit comes down to the uncomfortable fact that historically we do have more mothers than fathers. What this means is by natural selection most men were considered too inferior so it was in the best interest of women & a small percentage of alpha males to keep breeding
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:36 PM
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I’ve made similar observations. I do think women want us to communicate some emotions but you gotta put a lid on it real quick. For example, “I feel some kinda way about this and that … but it should all work out in the end.” They need that positive spin so they still have confidence in you, even if that positivity is a little forced. It is silly and I agree that both parties should ideally be able to communicate all feelings without having to sugarcoat anything but most women don’t seem to want…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:36 PM
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Yes to # 3 and sometimes yes to # 1, but post menopausal women are usually more mature in my experience and often a lot more fun
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:38 AM
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Sometimes we can get passionate about things and rise to the top of our professions, it has happened& still does happen, but that’s still just the apex of high quality males. You might be one of them, I’m likely not
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:15 AM
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I stand behind my initial claim. Women initiate divorce at much higher rates than men. Many times (not all), the root cause is our dick isn’t good enough or our money isn’t good enough , and these things do impact a man’s self esteem confidence and sense of self worth
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:04 AM
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thats the root of the problem imo, lots of immature girls even if they are very smart get knocked up early on by alphas, leaving betas behind. I used to be idealistic about being okay with raising another woman’s kids but lately I’ve been understanding where some of the frustration is since I can relate at a personal level
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:53 AM
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these are dark triad alpha dickheads your talking about, I’m not a fan of them either
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:49 AM
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Is intelligence correlated with morality & ethics?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:40 AM
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There is evidence women are actually smarter than men, and I’m not just talking about emotional intelligence. Girls have been outperforming boys in the classroom for a while now. It’s partially cuz they tend to do better with traditional auditory & visual learning whereas men tend to be slow learners in these environments. Also I find women to have a unique hypnotic charm that I can’t even describe with words. It goes way beyond lusting after certain body parts
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 10:09 PM
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It may not be purely transactional but women are more likely than men to file for divorce when their spouse gets laid off or demoted
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:54 PM
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Non desirable, lesser men, betas, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:20 AM
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but you wanna drag us down?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:35 PM
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Not yet, did you bother to look AT THE FUCKING TIMESTAMP before you assumed the worst in me? She replied 3 hours ago (8pm EST) and I replied 5 hours ago (6pm EST)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:17 AM
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Ideally, hopefully the right to die & exit peacefully will become a reality. I realize a lot of men are trolls but likewise a lot of men are hurting from the reality that no matter how hard they try they won’t be happy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:04 PM
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The fact that you have those stats and still looking, I think might speak to the obvious asymmetry
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:14 PM
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Mmmm bar rats crack whores yummy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:04 PM
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Very likely this 👆
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:01 PM
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There are a million guys who still value monogamy & the nuclear family. I’m not one of them since I value the former & not the latter
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:54 PM
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Yes must be sky daddy of course I actually agree with some of what Jordan Peterson implies, that Christianity has been useful for society but he loses me when he says it’s useful so therefore it’s true It’s not true, other than the fact that it suits your purpose at trying to get laid or have a life affirming attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:39 PM
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I think the fact that dark triad narcissistic behaviors are even still on the table (which they are) says a lot about the brutal nature of reality
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:26 PM
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I was raised Protestant but I couldn’t force myself to believe or take paschals wager. In the same way I can’t force myself to think nice things like air offset the bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:18 PM
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Are you religious?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:12 PM
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Nature is not a beauty, not if you like animals raping each other and predators eating prey
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:01 PM
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to his point, just doing self care and going about your business is usually not enough to attract women Now if you or any woman expects us to forcefully coerce ourselves into some type of optimism where we feel we have to fake it, that’s just not realistic to me Or in other words, it’s possible many of us males actually are disposable trash, and no amount of crazy effort or self help is going to change it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:57 PM
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Maybe because they value communication, healthy dialogue and interesting discussion? Hopefully the same reason you’re here, and why I’m here
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 01:59 AM
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Perhaps a contradiction from the red pill community at large but not a contradiction on an individual basis. I think the red pill community became a ‘big tent’ so to speak, some men genuinely do value monogamy and commitment, not caring which spouse is the breadwinner…. while others are still clinging hard to the 1950s fantasy and need that type of pride
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 01:54 AM
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I’m a left leaning self loathing 36 yo liberal, so maybe I’m retarted, but I do think bill mahers show has a lot of value in this regard. He has a variety of guests on the panel. Yes he had Jordan Peterson on but usually with guests who get to challenge him. He’s also had Richard reeves and Scott Galloway on before. They both strike me as male advocates who don’t resort to misogyny whereas Jp seems to have the more cynical view of women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 01:34 AM
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Reel big fish - everyone else is an asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 03:43 PM
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GWAR Hate Love Songs unironically
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 02:44 PM
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What’s percentage of men do you think are capable of giving adequate sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 12:21 AM
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Disgusting disposable same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 12:12 AM
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Agree 99% but for the idea that women will feel it later. They won’t. We are disposable, they will miss us for 2 seconds and show up at a funeral with fake tears. They will NOT feel it later in the way you think they will
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 11:26 PM
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Not true in my case. I’d be flattered if an “orbiter” was a nice girl a little out of my league. There is an asymmetry. Women are picky. Men are much less picky. You don’t hear about as many women getting “friend zoned” .. and even when they are, they still have options, most men don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:19 AM
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You can’t magically produce it with confidence but there is something to be said about performance anxiety and how positive/negative mental states can mess with a man’s neurophysiology
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:08 AM
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