TheRedArchive

~ archived since 2018 ~

de_ja_pon Archive

View 0 posts and 275 comments by de_ja_pon on TheRedPill subreddit and various other subreddits related to The Red Pill community.
Search in:
In subreddits:
More
Filter by year/month:
Upvotes Title Category Author Subreddit Date (UTC)
Upvotes Comment on Subreddit Date (UTC)
2

Sure will. Men who value their name or reputation aren't going to risk it for nothing, which is what a lot of women offer these days. It'll lead to higher standards, which women hate because they want to be the ones who choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 08:41 PM
8

Women don't like appropriate, it's boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 08:40 PM
1

He has to put effort into his entire life to keep you interested, you just have to look good. In this case, you would be the entitled one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 07:29 PM
3

Women only have to put effort into their looks. Men have to put effort into everything to appeal to her. Some things are going to suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 07:25 PM
3

A woman just has to put effort into her looks. A man has to put effort into everything, so some things are going to suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 07:24 PM
2

How else is he going to trigger your excitement because he's made a little time for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 05:39 PM
0

She means "Yes" but she's playing hard to get
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 04:59 PM
6

Sounds like you just haven't met the right 13 year old Chad yet
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 04:19 PM
3

Blue Pill's based on the Matrix. It's not realizing there's a problem, or having the system work in your favour (like being a physically attractive male) so you never notice there's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 03:04 PM
1

Older generations/Conservatives don't count for gender norms because older generations don't change with the times, they cling to what's familiar to them. Old people being mad at you means you're doing something right. Pressure to marry comes entirely from other women. Feminism is anti-male and about attacking male positions, not changing negative female positions. And it's women who are the problem when choosing men to marry, because they refuse to do something men have done for generations, ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 12:23 PM
3

The only thing where studs are congratulated is when women have sex with them. That's literally the only part that matters. Family men will look on and wish they were that guy, but will keep quiet about it so the old ball-and-chain doesn't get up their ass about it. Society is against bachelors and pro family. Doesn't matter if you are a woman or a man. Men can't be shamed by it, it only harms women because they care about social stuff more
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 12:16 PM
1

Nope, because if I get #metoo'd by her, I deserved it for putting myself in that position in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 12:06 PM
0

Probably because they're putting in so much effort being financially attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 12:05 PM
1

It does if she wants to get married one day
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 09:17 AM
1

Nah, I won't ever get married specifically so I don't get accidentally get caught up with a slut like that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 09:15 AM
-1

That's the best part. If women create the problem in the first place, they get to bare the brunt of the backlash from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 09:09 AM
0

Don't be nice to women, problem solved
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 09:08 AM
1

Yeah there is, the more dicks you take, the less marriageable you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 09:06 AM
2

Because it's easier to pay a woman to do what you want than it is to impress her enough so that she wants to have sex with you and then hope she's into what you're into
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 09:03 AM
1

I'm a 6'4" white guy and I feel unsafe walking alone at night even in nice neighbourhoods
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 08:25 AM
3

The SMV imbalance. To us average folk, they're all High SMV, but within their little world, the SMV is in the guy's favour and women are less likely to leave a guy with a higher SMV than them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 06:19 AM
2

Those are still high value women, but also less likely to leave them if they screw around. Best of both worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 06:01 AM
1

There is something to be said for containment
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 05:43 AM
2

There's nothing wrong with faking it. That's abusive men get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 03:46 AM
1

Yeah but they'll also be at the forefront of developing automated care for seniors as one example because they're going to need it faster than anyone else will.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 07:06 PM
1

Yeah. I guess it does depend on how fast automation gets here and what types of automation are viable. I know Japan is refusing immigration and is putting a lot behind automated care for old-folks to reduce the burden on younger Japanese people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 06:53 PM
2

Yeah, I guess so. I don't care about the "real world" (as in everyday life type of stuff) because it's pretty boring and the people focused on it are equally as boring. If you don't offer anything of value, they are certainly not going to offer you anything. That's fine, I'm also not going to work hard to give them something of value when they don't offer equal value in return. That's just being a fucking sucker. I'm also going to be completely fine with supporting things that make their lives h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 06:50 PM
2

Productivity goes down significantly when there's more old people than young people and social systems become extremely strained when there's less young taxpayers paying in and more older former-taxpayers withdrawing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 06:47 PM
2

I don't value the improvements when all it's for is just to impress a woman who otherwise wouldn't be interested in me. They're adding nothing of permanent value while taking things of permanent value from me Vapid?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 06:13 PM
2

I can do that if I like, especially because they didn't want to sleep with me before the attitude regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 06:02 PM
2

Stop acting like I need to earn the right to tell that white knight society and those entitled women hiding behind them to go fuck themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:48 PM
3

Life isn't full of assholes who are out to try to get you No, it's full of assholes who have no problem standing their watching while the assholes who are out to get you get you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:43 PM
3

You can still get the same levels of accomplishment just out of different, more productive venues in life. The feeling of accomplishment inside a fantasy world will never compare to the feeling of accomplishment in real life. Untrue, video games were way more exciting than getting good grades or something like that was. They told more interesting stories, had more interesting characters to interact with, and provided a challenge I was actually interested in. I'm not trying to convince you that y…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:38 PM
1

A lot of people don't get far beyond the stereotypes they embody. The ones that do take a long time to get to the interesting stuff. Or they post it anonymously online on places like reddit where it's safe, which means reddit is better for talking to interesting people than real life is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:28 PM
3

Why not accomplish things in real life that you accomplish in a virtual world? The two games I'm playing right now are an anime fantasy/sci-fi (Xenoblade Chronicles 2) and a cartoonish sci-fi (Ratchet and Clank 1 HD). Neither are set in a realistic setting so I can't really accomplish the things I do in those games IRL You think the rush of driving a nice car is boring as fuck compared to driving one virtually? I'm not a fan of driving or cars, so the virtual ones actually provide more fun becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:08 PM
4

Not if you're uncool they're not. Also most people are pretty boring, you can sum most of them up in some stereotype or another within 10-30 minutes of talking to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 04:34 PM
8

It's difficult for men but overcoming that difficulty and winning pussy as a prize is a sense of accomplishment. It's boring as fuck and you waste so much time and resources when you could jerk off to porn in 5 minutes, and spend your time and money on something that will actually show a return
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 04:33 PM
2

Would government try to incentivize marriage and kids? They already do. If you think immigration is a bad thing, it's already a problem for society for most of the western world, and only latinos are propping it up for America. Our social systems require replacement level birthrates, meaning every man and woman have to have two children and some three to continue everything growing. If you can't replace them, then you either import mass amounts of immigrants or society degrades.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 04:28 PM
1

If you're attractive, women let you get with more and will make more excuses to pass off your behaviour. If you're not attractive, they won't. Gaming is sedentary and below the Call of Duty surface it's really nerdy, so it figures that a lot of unattractive people do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 04:21 PM
5

We are on track, you're just trying to take the wheel. Regardless of which archetype gets laid, the toxicity exists in both. It's focused on more in video games because gamers aren't generally conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 04:15 PM
7

It's making a related point. Toxic masculinity can be found just as easily in locker rooms among the "pro-social" types as it is on Xbox-Live among the "anti-social" types. Anytime you put men in competition, that stuff will come out of a number of men, regardless if they're slobbering neckbeards or chiseled-out-of-granite jocks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 04:03 PM
4

As opposed to, say, sports?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 03:58 PM
1

A world where women post their asses in yoga pants on instagram for free and then feel sad about it later is pretty okay, I think
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 03:55 PM
3

I think if I bothered approaching women, I'd keep in the back of my head that my name and my freedom are ultimately more important than how she wants things to go, and if she gets turned off or disappointed by it, I don't care, because her or women like her helped create the atmosphere in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 03:53 PM
6

Eh, I was a B-Average student without trying in school, passed my classes with relative ease, and spent a lot of time gaming, so I disagree with the "does poorly in school" part. My anti-social behaviour comes from being mistreated by the cool kids, the "masses", and not having the numbers to fight back against them, because those pussies always showed up in numbers. I didn't want to be their friend or "navigate their system" because their system was based on being proud of being dumb as fuck (I…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 03:49 PM
1

Frankly speaking, professional women tend to be more attractive here than waitresses and CVS cashiers in the first place. That might be location based. If you're in a big-time city, hot and smart women will be more likely to be hired for their looks by big-time companies, so they'd all cluster in the same areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 03:54 AM
1

But they're essentially the same woman. If the diner waitress is hotter, she's getting chosen over the girl with a Women's Study Degree who doesn't do much of anything with it. They're not getting married for their earning capacity because men don't care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 03:45 AM
1

women who are highly educated but choosing to work in lower paying professional careers So this idea that men don't care if you're some diner waitress may be true for fucking or casual dating but not marriage. Those two things are the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 03:05 AM
2

It's not a "career" woman if she sets her career aside when she has children.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 05:39 PM
3

From what I hear, that can get quite costly. Not everyone has the financial range to afford cutting women out of their lives entirely. Also prostitution is illegal in a lot of cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 04:49 PM
1

Jesus, I'm cynical as fuck and would've had the reported number higher than 13%
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 04:47 PM
1

I wouldn't refuse, so I'd never get to the two choices
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 04:46 PM
5

Having a mother who can have healthy babies and might actually raise the kids is a bigger plus.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 04:39 PM
2

He likely doesn't have much in the way of free time because he's working to throw money into the abyss that is his wife and kids
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 04:39 PM
1

Such as the ability to have healthy babies or having a mother who might even be around once in awhile instead of working
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 04:38 PM
1

Raising children isn't supposed to be paid work. If you want to be paid for raising kids, go into daycare. If you want free time, don't have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 09:53 AM
1

That's fine. If you earned it, it should be yours if you do split up. Women still mostly marry sideways (50/50 anyways) or up (man makes more), which shows they're financially incentivized to do it because they win either way. They're much less likely to marry down, which shows that they recognize it's a bad deal. If it's a bad deal for women, it should be a bad deal for men too
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 09:45 AM
1

Being entitled to half was from an era where women were expected to stay home and not socially required to work, and usually married young, when people make stupid mistakes. Now women work and staying at home is rarer and rarer and marriage is pushed farther off. Being entitled to half is now a privilege, not based on common sense, and women rely on being able to take half to get the upper hand. Feminism means you can make your own money, so go make it. If you're worried about a divorce when you…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 09:37 AM
1

She knew what she was getting into, and it's an era where women work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 09:26 AM
1

Then live within your means and don't have two or three kids, or don't have two or three kids with a scumbag so you can trust him not to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 09:21 AM
1

How does the court track that though? Tax records? How do you account for the loss of income for maternity leave? Paid maternity leave. What if it becomes more financially viable for one parent to stay home with the kids until they are in primary school? It's more financially viable for one person to not make any money than for both to make money?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 09:15 AM
1

They both share the financial hit of having children, and both pay for daycare, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 09:07 AM
2

What you put in is what you get out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 08:48 AM
2

Why should she automatically get half in this day and age when women have their jobs and careers too?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 08:41 AM
2

These days aren't the old days. Unless revenge is the motive?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 08:26 AM
1

They're everywhere, it's hard to ignore everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 08:06 AM
5

Nah, you're not quite catching it. No matter any man says or does to you, at worst you can always inflict physical violence on them. Other men trying to shame you over this or that is meaningless because you always cause damage to them, and most men don't want to get involved in things that will cause them damage. It doesn't mean you do it, it's just a way of recognizing that some guy trying to tell you "man up" doesn't mean much of anything
/r/MGTOW25/01/18 08:06 AM
2

Strong or physically built, slightly or totally intimidating, outdoorsy, doesn't do much wimpy or weak shit, holds his frame in almost all situations.
/r/MGTOW25/01/18 08:00 AM
1

They're too entitled to care, because men are disposable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:56 AM
1

I'm not, but it comes up so often, combined with things that women say themselves, that it's hard to ignore
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:53 AM
1

Then you've probably never seen what a real man looks like, because it's not a guy at a desk poring over academic papers.
/r/MGTOW25/01/18 07:52 AM
1

They don't post those unless someone is reading it, and considering HuffPo's target demographic, that should tell you that there's truth to what's being said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:48 AM
2

Maybe the woman is just fine where she is because she knows she wins either way
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:31 AM
3

Because they whine about it and blame us men, and since women like to do things in groups and go with the social flow, it artificially raises all of their expectations, and us men get blamed for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:23 AM
2

However he still likely poured more money into the house than she did due to him making more than her. She ends up with a larger share than she would've had, she wins either way. The guy has to make more money because of the abyss of marriage and probably kids. The woman can make less because she'll make more with a husband and/or a divorce anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:22 AM
3

So most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:16 AM
2

Misread what you said. Your husband's put himself in a position of extreme weakness, basically a cuck waiting to happen. You're in the position of gain regardless, you don't lose anything either way. I'm not sure why we're supposed to sympathize with women who are in situations that men are basically expected to be in if they get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:12 AM
6

Difference in experience. Women are socialized to be nice and then subtle ways to be mean to each other. Society prizes and looks after women. Men are socialized to be nice to women, and even asshole men will be nicer to women if they want to sleep with them. Everyone is nice to women, so "nice" is normal to them. People are not automatically nice to men. People can and will physically beat you up if they like you when you're growing up. Men are seen as disposable by society. Men who are shitty …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:08 AM
2

Or on tindr or at a club or wherever else. Otherwise all these career women wouldn't be having problems finding husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 06:57 AM
2

You were attracted to him enough in the first place to marry him
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 06:57 AM
1

And the guy is usually not below the girl he marries even with college education.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 06:49 AM
1

There's a high percentage chance they'll break up, not that it's impossible that they won't. And how do you know it's not rare where you live, you can't have met everyone who lives where you are or ascertain their financial conditions unless you live in a tiny village
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 06:35 AM
1

I'm not insisting it's impossible, I'm saying it's rare. Being rare or an exception does not make something possible for everyone, and rarities and exceptions don't set the generalized rules and standards that most people operate with
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 06:03 AM
2

Sure, he just loses all of his freedom and throws his money into an endless abyss, unless she divorces him, then it's not his money anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 06:01 AM
0

Jordan Peterson is an academic. Academics are beta nerds.
/r/MGTOW25/01/18 06:00 AM
1

If they have money, they can go find women and women will find them. Having a "field" is not important, looks and what he's looking for in a mother for his children is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 05:54 AM
2

Those men can go find younger and hotter women pretty much anywhere. Being in proximity doesn't raise your chances unless you're also young and hot, and even then, if he wants a girl who's actually going to take care of the children, he's not going to look to a career woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 05:53 AM
20

At worst, you can always punch another man in the face. What other men say doesn't matter.
/r/MGTOW25/01/18 05:51 AM
2

Men seem to be anti-male. Every time a female teacher takes advantage of a male student, women I know are horrified, men make jokes about it. Because men showing weakness around women dooms them either way, they have to keep up appearances. Women are expected to work hard for little reward. So basically like men in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 05:50 AM
0

Also, having a good job is the best way for women to be exposed to high quality men with similar interests. But those men don't care what jobs women do, so it doesn't really do much for their chances at the end of the day
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 05:49 AM
0

They should just lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 05:47 AM
2

Low level jobs. Teacher, not Headmaster. How much of that is on women? Men in nursing get promoted faster than women, and women seem fine with that because they don't want the responsibility. STEM is begging for women to replace all the nerdy men but they don't go into STEM How many education grants go to single moms and women over men? Perhaps men should start an education campaign. I had to come to reddit to her stories of men being sexually harrassed and raped. No one would listen because no …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 04:11 AM
1

There's a payoff for women in the end because even if divorce they get alimony, they can play the long-game just fine because in the end they win either way. If you're a non-religious guy in a religious setting, you'll eventually be found out, which will ruin your social standing, which women care about social standing a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 03:59 AM
2

Women can freely sexually harass and even rape men and get away with it, can get lesser sentencing for it on the rare times it's followed through, and women are more in demand than men are for education and jobs in the world right now
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 03:57 AM
2

Women are treated better than or above men for the most part. It takes a lot of power for a man to be able to treat a woman unfairly and get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 03:02 AM
2

You're projecting. Maybe in the past when women were SAHMs, that was an excuse. Now she's working too. And making less while still demanding more. And she's entitled to because of her vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 02:45 AM
2

Differing libido. Nope, women will go nuts over attractive men and celebrities. It's differing barriers to entry and being settled for. However, usually men were neat and tidy in the courtship phases and let it lapse. They know what to do and can do it, they just don't want to. They still want the same level of sex as when they were putting in effort, though. Probably because he's too busy working to throw money into the endless abyss that is the wife and kids and to be the "leader" of the famil…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 02:21 AM
72

Anyone who says "man up" in a non-joking manner is trying to make you do something that only benefits them. It only works as a shaming device if you allow it to.
/r/MGTOW25/01/18 02:18 AM
2

It is very difficult for men to be considered attractive by women. You have to have a lifetime of things built up and you have to be "on" all the time. It's mostly easy for women to be considered attractive enough by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 02:12 AM
10

No, guys don't want to waste 5 bucks. With a sex robot, you're getting what you paid for. With a real woman, you're paying for the right to be in her presence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 02:10 AM
2

And yet many women do that anyways, because financial ruin lies at the other side of a man challenging a woman on anything, and the man just has to suck it up. So yeah, it is withholding.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 02:08 AM
2

It's not men withholding pussy or doing most of the parenting to get what they want And if men say something is a turn-off to women, women start entire social movements to shame them for it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 01:48 AM
3

Tons of women don't pull their weight and it slides because we're socialized to take care of them regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 01:37 AM
6

They have to make money because the wife and potentially kids are an abyss. They have to stay healthy to keep working to fill that abyss, or she'll just leave. He's "happy" up until he finds out he's in the other 50%
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 12:16 AM
2

Tons of women expect their man to be like a daddy, and men are fine with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 12:12 AM
1

There is a point where I'd consider one (or more), though I don't think we'll reach that point in our lifetimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 12:10 AM
3

Because if she has to tell you, it means you can't read her mind and therefore are not her perfect man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 12:01 AM
0

I wouldn't care if I was expected to be bold and confident about it, I'd rather not go to jail and I don't care if it completely shuts the woman off. Blame feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 12:00 AM
7

I think "Going Your Own Way" doesn't mean ignoring women completely, it means not giving them what they want (your resources and hard work) because you won't get a good return back on it. You can enjoy hating women on the internet and still be GYOW
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 11:58 PM
2

And as the selection process gets more and more stringent because women are getting more and more entitled, that leads to more and more "outcasts" or people who look at the amount of work and look at what they're getting for that amount of work (basically another useless, whiny child) and decide it's not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 11:53 PM
0

Nah, if that was the problem, most men would still be married. It's that women want the man to be the leader so he take all the blame responsibility so she can just do what she wants without having to worry about anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 11:52 PM
1

That would involve becoming religious
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 11:50 PM
1

Either a very small percentage, or she hasn't realized it yet and she'll leave him when she does.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 11:50 PM
1

Nah, most guys are better than women in multiple metrics. But not the ones that really count to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 11:47 PM
3

Considering the lengths males are forced to go to in order to acquire partners, it seems valuable. ftfy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 01:55 PM
2

A woman who can cook, clean, is chaste and loyal, makes 200k a year, is cute and beautiful and/or is fit and in shape is not going to choose the kind of man who would go to a sex-robot anyways. Most levels of men are going to strike out with that kind of woman because the man has to be better than the woman for her to even consider him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 01:53 PM
1

Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 01:31 PM
1

No, you have it backwards, it's harder for men to have NSA sex than it is for them to have relationships. If they want NSA sex they have to go down in SMV and lower their standards. But their options for a relationship are greater, therefore they can afford to be more picky with whom they marry. No, we're talking about standards here. Their options for relationships are only greater if they're top-tier guys, because everyone equal to or below a man on the social ladder is eligible. But since mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 01:08 PM
1

No they don't. Men have an easier time finding women lower than them on the social totem pole to marry than they do women above them. Their standards go down as they get older if they want to get married and have children. What you're confusing is that the standards for women they'd fuck and women they want to have their children are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 01:00 PM
1

Higher standards than thots is a low bar, they're not holding out for a perfect woman with a laundry list of traits like women do
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 12:53 PM
2

I wish you extreme wealth and good looks, because that's what you're going to need to find that package
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 12:37 PM
1

Men's standards go down if they want a relationship because if most of us held out for the best like women do, we'd never get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 12:36 PM
2

Society will generally vilify things that make us unproductive workers and that get in the way of having children because it means someone else has to pick up the slack somewhere or things go downhill.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 12:30 PM
2

No. Everyone would be constantly convincing her that I'm bad pick because she has more money than me, most women eventually capitulate to that and even though I'm not getting "divorce-raped", it's still an avoidable divorce by just not entering the relationship in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 04:30 AM
1

Lying to get consent means you still got consent, which means it's not rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 03:37 AM
3

Regret is not rape and refusing to voice withdrawal of consent even though you don't want it anymore is not the same as withdrawing consent. I think there's grey area if you're getting drunk or hopped up on drugs or something with someone else. Otherwise, the regular definitions apply, and if some girl said "No" to me, even if she meant "Yes", I wouldn't push through that without trusting her more, I'm not gonna risk jail because a girl wants to feel ravaged
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 12:08 AM
5

I think that worked because small groups violently took over seats of government and the keys to power.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 11:55 PM
12

As with most things internet, it just allowed people with similar viewpoints to join together easier, and for people who are looking for something like it to find it easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 11:47 PM
2

I mean, the old order of "everyone goes to church, everyone gets married and has kids" is its own form of despotic social programming.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 09:48 PM
3

What about loneliness though, and sex, and forming a functional bond? For me, I'm not getting that anyways, and the cost is too much for what I can pay. Women don't care if I'm lonely and don't care about "functionally bonding" with me unless they can take valuable things from me. I don't want to go get valuable things to give them because I want to actually be liked for me and not the things I can give them. What about passing a (biologically enslaved) to be part of a community or family. I mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 09:47 PM
2

It's basically anti-male. It's good in some ways, because some cultures are very pro-male to the point that assaults are considered okay or women are considered property, so the anti-maleness needs to be used to counteract and undo that kind of damage. In the west, the anti-male-ness has turned into a power grab. Women want all the power that men have left and none of the responsibility that men have and have had for decades. Saying you're a feminist is basically saying "I will put women ahead o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 09:44 PM
1

You can choose to not stick it in a woman raw and never have to worry about it. And if you're paranoid, handle your own condoms, spermicide etc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 09:41 PM
3

Because no one wants to buy used goods for full price.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 09:39 PM
1

Huh. I scoffed at "Stacie widow'ed" but then as someone who jerks off to the instagrams of girls he knew in high school (they were Stacies to me but not necessarily to everyone else), I guess that both does make sense, and that there's probably more Stacy Widows than there are Alpha Widows.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 09:39 PM
6

Nah, because people forget that his father Pierre slayed pussy, and more importantly, the timing for when he could've been conceived by Fidel doesn't work.
/r/MGTOW22/01/18 12:15 PM
26

Canadian here, Justin's not known for his intelligence, he's known for being personable. Fooling him is not a difficult proposition.
/r/MGTOW22/01/18 12:10 PM
2

I tend to agree with OP. If a man is getting in my face about me not being manly enough, I can find something to bust on him about (all men have something unmanly about them and as soon as you find it, your manliness is done) or at absolute worst, I can haul off an punch him in the face (it doesn't matter if I win or not). If a women don't think I'm manly enough, it's social and sexual shaming, "just man-up", watching them reward men who show bullying behaviour to others, and a general social in…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 11:23 AM
1

Sure would. Hair, makeup, and stylish slutty dressing will turn my head, but it won't make me interested in talking to someone because a) I'd rather look at them or nail them because that's what they're projecting and b) I find that stuff is a mask and I don't feel like I'm talking to the real person when they're all done up like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 09:51 AM
2

Though, as a a matter of fact, it's not the baseline from men's point of view. This. It shows how easy women have it when being "nice" is considered the baseline.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 05:19 PM
6

I mean... we tried to warn them about white knights faking it just to get in with them, but they wouldn't listen.
/r/MGTOW18/01/18 10:26 PM
2

Conversely, many men are taught that they are entitled to women’s time, attention and physical affection ― and that if those things are not readily offered to them, they should be aggressive and take it. I've literally never heard of anyone being told that or taught that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 09:32 PM
1

Only if we can agree to alter male standards at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 05:56 PM
2

And the Crusades never accomplished their primary goals and ruined a lot of good Christians along the way
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 04:54 PM
6

It's like you don't know that the Crusades happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 04:48 PM
1

I think instead of devoting whatever police and legal resources we have to combating prostitution, we can instead devote those resources to human trafficking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 03:05 PM
2

However, if your response to that is "Okay" then the dread completely fails
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 03:03 PM
128

However you don't take a paternity test unless you suspect something is up, so those numbers are going to be inflated more than the general population's are.
/r/MGTOW16/01/18 02:41 PM
11

I'm not sure you can slutshame a man because men are celebrated if they have lots of sex. It sounds like an attempt to smear that's gonna horribly wrong on all counts
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 03:14 AM
1

Except in real life, it apparently works out well enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 02:13 AM
1

That's not a 1:1 comparison. It would work if the woman is a lesbian, but most women aren't. But otherwise, again, who cares? If you strike out 99 times and get it once, that's better than not getting it 100 times. If guys aren't selfish, how else are we gonna get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 12:56 AM
1

No, because I'm not gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 12:53 AM
1

So? Girls aren't exactly being charitable with their vaginas, if you call that selfish then every girl starts freaking out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 12:50 AM
1

If I was the 1 guy, I think it would be more important. You're not getting laid by the 99 women anyways, who cares if they're "uncomfortable"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 12:19 AM
2

Hrm, none of that told me anything, so I guess I've just never heard of this person
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 07:16 PM
1

And that would be a problem because...? The world isn't in need of more ill-considered bathroom hookups. Because it's hard for men to have sex, so doing things to get you sex are better than doing things that don't get you sex. Basically, we should grab women until the right one is into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 07:14 PM
0

It's not sexual harrassment if she wants it. If she didn't want it, it's sexual harrassment. Disclaimer: She can change her mind after the fact too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 07:13 PM
2

If only I knew who Aziz was
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 07:12 PM
1

Does that mean I have a ball and chain attached to me now? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 05:16 PM
1

I'm so thankful that I lived in a time when the internet could sour me to women. I would've been the boring responsible guy who figured if I just kept plugging away that girls would actually like me for me, rather than the stability and extra wallet I'd be while she really wanted some bad boy. Thank you, internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 03:16 PM
1

I see it a lot in the marriages I've witnessed. Guys saying they're "not allowed" to do this or that anymore, or that their wife gave them "permission" to do something like play video games or whatnot. It can't be that there's so many unhealthy relationships out there, so it must mean there's a power imbalance where married women have more control than the men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 09:15 PM
1

Women aren't going to look at a woman with a bad man and go "at least she's married." If they care about her, they'll tell her that "she deserves more" and that "she should leave." If the status of being married actually mattered, things would look more like they used to when marriages were arranged. You would be married out of rationality with love having very little to do with it, because the status conferred on being married mattered more than personal happiness did.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 09:03 PM
1

Freedom to do what you want without having to be given permission by someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 08:51 PM
1

Hence why my point is: marriage as an act does not confer status.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 08:51 PM
1

If marriage as an act confers status, it wouldn't require status in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 08:50 PM
5

Your money is no longer yours, it's hers. Your time is no longer yours, it's hers. Your free time is no longer yours, it's hers. Depending on how she is, even your peace of mind is no longer yours, it's hers (there is that cliche of "if she's not happy, you're not happy")
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 08:25 PM
1

Right, the act of marriage doesn't confer status. Which is what I've been arguing all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 08:23 PM
1

But women forego that rather than marry a guy who is below them on the totem pole, meaning the act of marriage does not confer status.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 08:23 PM
1

Assuming nothing like mental illness or what-not, it's that being a McWorker still means you're low status and not getting any status-perks, but now you have the added stresses of a job and being shit on by masses of people in your daily life for "only" being a McWorker.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 08:12 PM
1

Marriage is and always be the top achievement of the female status hierarchy. no amount of attempting to replace this with man-work and no amount of female erasure has changed this or will change it. if you are never married or a "forever girlfriend" in your late 30s you will always be low status in the female social matrix. feminism attempted to transpose the marxist "class" levelling project of leftism onto the female status hierarchy and failed. a life as a childless, husbandless office worke…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 08:11 PM
1

Is it the case that NEETs are more respected than McWorkers in your social circles? Do they have the same status? They both get shit on in different ways. The only way the McWorker is looking all right is if you put them beside a NEET, otherwise, they're at the bottom. I mean, our parents used to use McDonald's jobs as threats, like if we don't do well in school or whatnot, McDonald's is where the failures end up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 08:01 PM
1

You're missing the original point, which was that the act of marriage confers status, not who they're getting married to. If marriage confers status, then either more people or the same amount of people would be getting married so they could earn and show off their status. Numbers are going the other way. Therefore, getting married on its own does not confer status, it's the status of who they're getting married to that matters, and they will forego getting married, the act that's supposed to co…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:55 PM
1

Not an apt comparison. A very small percentage of human beings are ever going to be CEOs of large companies. Marriage doesn't require you to be in the small percentage of qualified human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:41 PM
1

It's not men saying "No, I don't want to marry you." If marriage by itself confers status, then women would get married to men who are below them on the totem pole. They don't, which means it's not marriage by itself that confers status.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:40 PM
6

Because more people are foregoing status than before we started recording these statistics going back decades, rather than the numbers increasing or staying the same. Which means that the status is worth less, or that marriage doesn't confer the status you think it does. I'm using statistics to back up my logic ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:27 PM
1

That's because you refuse to accept that people can be just fine with how things are that marriage can be a power-grab for the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:23 PM
1

Now who's being pedantic?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:17 PM
5

that more men AND women are choosing to be status losers is fascinating. Or it just goes to show that it doesn't confer the status you think it does
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:16 PM
4

It disproves your theory because the phenomenon is growing instead of staying consistent or shrinking, which indicates that women are getting pickier about who they marry, which means that marriage in itself does not confer top status of the hierarchy. It's not the act of marriage, it's who they marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:14 PM
1

If the division of financial responsibilities is already working, but she still demands more, then there's a hint that maybe she's not after you because she likes you, she wants your wallet more open. or, if it’s real love and you’re with the best person you could get with, why not get married (especially if they want to)? you are not convincing me that there’s any reason except for not loving who you’re with that much, or holding off until someone you find better comes along. Weddings are expen…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:13 PM
3

Some "just don't" but that number isn't growing, it's more that they can't find the kind of guy they want to marry. If marriage was the only thing that conferred the status, they wouldn't be so selective about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:10 PM
3

And yet they'd rather be spinsters than married to someone who they see as below themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:06 PM
2

If it wasn't that hard, then numbers would be increasing instead of declining
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:05 PM
5

It's not a minute detail. There is a difference between "marriage is a high status marker" and "marriage to someone who is top status is a high status marker." One is an act, one is an act with hard-to-reach conditions. Anyone can get married, but not anyone can get married to who they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:00 PM
2

Then marriage isn't the top achievement of the female status hierarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 06:55 PM
2

that's not true either, but we're not equating romantic relationships to videogames anyway. I totally am. One actually provides me what I want for my money and time. One requires I spend a ton of money and time and maybe they will deign to give me a little bit of what I want. right, a better alternative with someone/something that he can keep at the distance he likes, i.e., doesn't love that much. Or someone who doesn't need a binding legal resources contract to recognize love
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 06:54 PM
6

That wouldn't explain all the women who stay single rather refusing to marry below their own perceived value. If marriage was the top achievement of the female status hierarchy, they would be getting married to anyone as soon as they can, rather than holding out for what they think they deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 06:48 PM
1

all things that are not a guaranteed loss or even something that women would have exclusive interest in, but rather something that a bad partner would attempt to claim or control. Untrue. As one example, if I spend money on a video game, I'm more or less guaranteed what I paid for. And if it happens to be bad, I can actually trade it it in and get some money back for it. Less risk, more reward for spent time and money. so, if a guy isn’t marrying someone because he fears they’ll take advantage o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 06:44 PM
8

The right to your money and your freedom and to general equality. The woman gains the upper hand in marriage because she can leave and take his stuff with her, and thus gets to set more of the standards and be more demanding in marriage because she can blow it up at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 06:23 PM
8

Because I don't think "a lot of guys" are waiting around for something better in that situation, they're just happy with where they're at because marriage is a shitty situation in general for men, and most men know it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 06:17 PM
8

Obviously it's not everyone. But every guy I know who's married, doesn't matter the generation, talks about how shackled they are. Their wives have them on budgets, their wives don't let them do this or that, they have to ask their wives permission to do things when they have free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 06:12 PM
1

Ding Ding Ding
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 06:11 PM
6

Likewise, someone who's fine to stay with someone with or without marriage should have no problem not being married
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 06:06 PM
17

I dunno about that. I see marriage as a shackle of unhappiness where a guy loses all of his power and freedom, I'm not sure why you'd want to make someone you love that unhappy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 05:54 PM
5

If she checks out, she's more than likely taking the kids with her, which means those resources flow through her regardless, and you're never quite sure if she is using those resources on your own children the right way or not
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 05:47 PM
5

find women who are earning similarly to you and you don't have to worry about getting resource-scammed until she has your kids. See, that last part just translates to "she can play the long game" and "she'll get to keep most of it anyways." You're still losing out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 05:40 PM
8

But only if they an get a claim to his resources first, otherwise the "love" will evaporate quickly ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 05:29 PM
2

And those motherfuckers will eat you alive. Until the PTSD works its magic
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 01:46 PM
4

Seems more like an "I told you so" than anything else. Maybe mixed with a bit of "she was asking for it." Which may not be entirely far from the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 01:45 PM
0

I'd probably say it, but only to spite someone. But even then, it's punching up, women have most of the social power as it is unless you're a big-time mover and shaker like Harvey Weinstein was, they won't care what someone like me says to them either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 09:46 PM
7

Probably playing video games or otherwise occupying their time with non-woman related stuff, because they're not getting them anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 09:44 PM
3

How she carries the weight can put her anywhere on the attractiveness scale, the exact number doesn't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 07:12 PM
0

Why else would you be reading it to post there?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 03:04 PM
2

As soon as you tell anyone you're a woman there, you're going to get attention for it, both positive and negative (probably mostly negative)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 02:27 PM
1

If you live in the West, yeah. Have a vagina, wear makeup, and just show up and you basically have it easy and can be as demanding as you want. They even give you free money if you fuck up and have a baby with a guy who doesn't want either of you, so you don't even have to exercise quality control.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 02:07 PM
1

It's not creepy, it's just that a lot of 20-somethings don't want to go to jail
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 02:04 PM
1

It's only damage if you care what they think. Also calling someone a creep basically means you don't have to abide by their social norms anymore, because they already told everyone you don't abide by them anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 02:00 PM
1

Fuck I lol'ed
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 01:57 PM
1

Attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 01:56 PM
1

Yeah, adultery, which no one considers a good thing. That has nothing to do with egalitarianism
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 05:40 PM
3

I'm not sure young men are smart enough to know a lot of those differences without accidentally bumping into them and then pulling back anyways. I think what it's affecting is older men who otherwise wouldn't harass women thinking twice about a lot more situations, because it can end up costing them a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 11:11 PM
5

Expand the question a bit: Why does anyone who has dating success help anyone out? It's usually the people who had to actually work hard, who used to be failures at dating who are willing to share what they know because they remember how frustrating it was when most of the advice they got wasn't all that useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 02:51 PM
12

I think when everyday life is a struggle like it would be with hunter-gatherer societies, you don't worry about vaginas over here and dicks over here, you do what you can to help the tribe survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 01:55 PM
4

Most people I know who spend a lot of time on the internet do so because they're either not doing that well or they're trying to escape from unhappy situations or they're teenagers and have nothing better to do with their time. Experience from spending years on online forums before social media became the cool thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 02:00 AM
0

Showing emotions as a man will eventually do you in regardless of how alpha or rich you are. Women don't want men with emotions. Considering what he brings up on-camera, imagine what he brings up off of it eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 05:44 PM
5

Not only do I agree with that, but I'd take it a step further, society and women in general actively hate when you try to wise men up otherwise, because it makes it harder for women to get the things they want so easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 03:21 PM
1

At first glance I thought that said "rapers"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 10:05 PM
1

Hrm, I guess I always assumed single-mom stuff was more about dating them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 10:01 PM
1

I thought Pill-stuff was dating strategies and not really about child-rearing?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 09:35 PM
1

A ho calling someone a creep when being a ho isn't exactly a great thing either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 09:29 PM
2

Yeah. Like I'd be thinking "Aw yeah, getting some from Kim K" and maybe it was just that Kanye wanted to know what it was like to kill someone and I just happened to be walking by at the time
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 09:23 PM
1

People who can be easily labelled something negative shouldn't be throwing around labels as if they're immune to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 09:18 PM
0

The latter directly impacts the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 09:04 PM
0

Nah, that pretty much sounds right Equality is a shit-test.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 08:04 PM
1

Why the fuck would you go to tinder looking for dates and love? It's a hook-up app, of course that's the kind of woman on there
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 07:58 PM
1

I wouldn't feel sexually harrassed at all. No women give me attention or bother me like that, so it'd probably feel amazing. I'd probably be wondering if they were setting me up to be murdered or something too, because no woman of that status would give them time of day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 05:57 PM
1

You seem upset that I would call a spade a spade
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 04:17 PM
1

No, dating a lot and being on tinder, a hook-up app, makes a woman a whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 04:11 PM
1

On tinder "Dating someone new" regularly Sorority. I would label her a ho. I imagine she wouldn't care too much either way that I labelled her a ho. Hence why he shouldn't care too much either way about being labelled creepy by a sorority ho.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 04:09 PM
0

Recognizing that ho is a ho and that one ho can't label you is more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 04:04 PM
0

She's not some "Sorority ho" she's actually a pretty decent and nice person who has a lot of life to experience. Repeat after me. So-ror-it-y-Ho. She has yet to learn the confidence to simply say, no. White Knights galloping to her rescue doesn't help her learn either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 03:59 PM
1

Disagree. I played team sports and am still pretty anti-social and low-status. Most of the athletes I knew were wannabe tough-guys or dumb-fucks, I probably wouldn't have cared too much if one of them got hit by a car. Never affected my play or willingness to play for the team, nor did it make me feel any more or less masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 03:57 PM
-1

Eh, just because some sorority ho calls you a creep doesn't mean you're "labelled" a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 03:48 PM
1

No
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 03:47 PM
1

Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 06:25 PM
1

No. I am not in those categories, men still seemed more interested in me when I told them what I was studying as a career. That's what I mean, you're not in those categories, so they were probably telling you what you wanted to hear, or you heard what you wanted to hear. Yes that must be why most of those men wanted more than sex with me. They were just in it for a really long con. Perfect sense. Regular sex is hard to get, ya know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 06:19 PM
1

I never said it's "job based", but it's a myth that female status/career means nothing to men. It only means something if there's potential for her to cheat on him or "give herself away" (porn star, model etc) Doubt it all you want, it's true regardless. My career is more attractive to men for a relationship because it's high status and has good potential. That's not a real thing, that's likely what they just told you to get into your pants. It's like telling a girl she has a nice personality wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 06:14 PM
1

This isn’t what we were talking about in the first place, we were talking about joint finances. Joint finances are her-based, he has to ask permission. Wrong. High status men aren’t marrying Waffle House waitresses, that’s a terper fantasy. Men were more interested in me when I told them what I was in school for. That men care less about her job than women do of his does not mean they’d all be happy with wives who are minimum wage grocery store clerks. High status men are marrying who they find …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 05:31 PM
1

Nono, you're misunderstanding. If men don't like fat women, women shame them for daring to have a choice over what they like that hurts their feelings. Men aren't allowed to have choices that hurts a woman's feelings. Women, on the other hand, are allowed to have whatever choice they want regardless of what men think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 03:42 PM
1

I disagree with you that married women are all being stingy about their money while expecting his money to be shared. A man who has to give money to help a woman is normal and expected. A woman who has to give money to help out a man is going to divorce or break-up with him in not too long of a time. They do care, Only if it's something like "porn star" or "model." Otherwise, no, the careers of women don't mean anything to us. but it’s not like men are all attracted to women’s ability to cook an…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 03:40 PM
1

It's their choice, you can't force them to find you attractive lol. It's not shaming if they don't find you attractive. What women shame men for their choices? Give me an example. Fat shaming. So is your problem with women taking away jobs from men and your solution is to ensure men have these higher paid jobs? I'd argue if you need a job like that to attract her then you're not attractive to her anyway so don't get in a relationship her her. Simple. Normally yeah, but the whole "more women than…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 03:37 PM
1

It's actually contributing less, because our money is still expected to be her money, but her money is not expected to be "our" money, and flooding the workforce drives down everyone's wages. There's a reason men don't care about and aren't otherwise attracted to women's careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 03:31 PM
0

Yeah, they are enforcing strict gender roles, represented by their choices, but also shaming and getting angry at men for their choices. They take jobs away from men which would make them more attractive while shaming men for having physical standards in women. They shame men for acting like men and then turn around and fuck men who act like men. Basically, admitting fault and stfu-ing about double standards and recognizing what situations they're putting themselves into (artificially inflating …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 03:24 PM
0

That's all fine actually, but women insist that they're not the problem when they actually are a huge part of the problem. They're not admitting fault for the issues they create themselves, and not adjusting to the changing world while demanding that we adjust ourselves to them, and then blaming us when we don't give a shit about their careers or their competing with men or their delusional standards and don't adjust to their complaints about body-shaming while they enforce strict gender roles o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 03:06 PM
1

Nonono, you hate unattractive males and males who are below your rung on the ladder. And each rung you climb up means you just get to hate more men without recognizing that your own standards are unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 01:55 PM
1

Good, I'm glad you recognize that you're a significant part of the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 01:53 PM
1

Because they're taking the things that make men attractive in the first place (money etc) while also driving up their own prices up because women date sideways or up, not down.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 01:50 PM
1

The "unattractive men" problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 01:49 PM
1

They're the ones creating a large portion of the problem while insisting that men are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 01:49 PM
0

Women do it more than men do. They demand men continue to stick to traditional gender roles while they are allowed to be whatever role they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 01:45 PM
1

Implying that women aren't half the problem because they're not adapting to the new standards either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 01:44 PM
1

How could he? He's on the internet, and if you're on the internet, you're not masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 01:43 PM
1

Women don't want betas, so I stopped bothering trying to appeal to them. There's more entertaining ways to spend my time and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 10:43 AM
4

It's women pricing themselves out of the market and men deciding that they have things that are more worth their time and money than trying to match that price. And I don't think it has anything to do with "emotional levels." Women don't want emotional men, they want stoic unemotional men who can always handle everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 10:40 AM
2

That's sort of my point right there. Modern women are basically men with high standards and who are high maintenance. We compete with other men, we're not attracted to them (straight-guy speaking anyways). We're not being offered anything we value while being expected to offer more and more because someone's vagina makes them think they're entitled to it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 10:37 AM
6

I think it's more that women don't have anything to offer that is the equivalent of what they demand out of men (career/$$$/etc) besides sex. They don't keep homes anymore because it's beneath them, they don't cook anymore, they don't raise children anymore, and their demands are rising higher and higher and they're offering less and less in return that men actually value.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 11:18 PM
1

If Vader was a woman, he'd cry that Lando was making micro-aggressive facial expressions his way, cry victim-hood and try to get the social media Storm Troopers to loudly denounce him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 11:08 PM
1

Nope, but women want men who are powerful, men don't really care if a woman is powerful. Then they take all the power and yet still demand men to be more powerful than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 11:04 PM
1

Yup. And if you don't, we have better things to do than waste our time trying to impress demanding and entitled princesses (video games come to mind)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 10:58 PM
1

Women are at fault for rising up but not adjusting their standards realistically. They want their cake to look at and eat it too, and to demand that men bake them their cake in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 10:56 PM
1

People don't uplift in a vacuum. As women rise up in society, that means a man is going down. Women are in demand, men are disposable. Women only date sideways or up, not down, meaning fewer and fewer men are able to meet the increasingly rising (and delusional) standards of women. Eventually, the amount of work it takes to be borderline worth it to women is ridiculous for what we get out of it, which is next to nothing these days because women are more interested in being men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 10:53 PM
1

It is when you're the ones who robbed us of value in the first place. You took it already and yet still want more, "when is enough enough" etc. Especially when you're not providing much of anything in value to us in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 10:49 PM
1

Not much of any. Why do you think modern men hate modern women so much? We already have next to no value and yet they still demand more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 10:46 PM
1

That's too simplistic. I think it generally applies. and I meant what value women have That's probably a good question to ask of modern women, but I'm not sure anyone really had to go out of their way to "gotcha" it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 10:34 PM
1

But we know women's values, $$$ and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 10:26 PM
2

You can be my favourite person in the world but if you keep entering my space too often without leaving me alone, I'll sour on you and start to hate you. Someone who is around me for a large amount of time like a potential s/o is, who doesn't eventually have me hating them for being around all the time is probably some kind of unicorn. Also as it pertains to the question, I don't trust women in general. "What do you have to offer me" sounds like "what will you give me in return for me deigning t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 10:20 PM
2

I'm probably at the extreme end of introversion, I get wiped out after an hour or so around even people I like and just want to leave and not see them at all for the rest of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 10:02 PM
2

Whatever traits make up a person that somehow makes me want to be around them for longer than an hour or so. I probably should've included the disclaimer that I don't like being around anyone for more than an hour or so, so I don't really know what those traits are like or if they even exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 08:57 PM
3

Themselves, because I assume I like them enough to be around them for longer than an hour or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 08:53 PM
6

I wouldn't be offering you anything. My stuff is mine, you can get your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 08:48 PM
1

For me, I'm socially unattractive if I'm being "myself." I don't care about status, I don't care about other people's social lives or lives in general, and I prefer quiet introverted, nerdy activities. "Be yourself" is only good advice if you're already attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 08:45 PM
1

Because they care about high value depressed men and don't give a fuck about low-value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 07:57 PM
1

Sure, but how many of those are based on losing a lot of their stuff to divorces?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 07:56 PM
1

He likely struggled with depression when he wasn't rich and being ripped wasn't weird for the line of work he was in (football and wrestling).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 07:11 PM
1

They like sex, but they also like their own safety more, and being smarter than a lot of other girls, they'll be thinking more about all the different variables and consequences of their actions, meaning their standards are going to be higher. Take that exact same girl and make her dumber, her standards are going to be lower because she's not thinking about the outcome as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 05:54 PM
1

No, it isn't. Smarter women will think more about the reasons to not have sex with you. She'll also use it to artificially inflate her self-value. If women date sideways or up, that means you not only have to be attractive enough for her, but you have to be smarter than her. Too much competition and physical attractiveness is more likely to get a dick harder than braininess. No it's not. High IQ people are just as likely to have average or IQ childen than anyone else. 3 is false. They're just as…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 07:32 AM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

© TheRedArchive 2026. All rights reserved.
created by /u/dream-hunter