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If your going to correct people's grammar on the internet start a game of solitaire because nobody cares about that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:49 PM
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Damn its almost like I included a disclaimer about exactly that and provided the example of my own preference contradicting this stereotype... What that's crazy almost like your illiterate as evidenced by how much of what I wrote is reflected in your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:40 PM
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As in social cues that make any sense in the slightest with specific exclusion to sexual social "cues" which are more like 1 part fog, 1 part confusion, 1 part murky water, and 1 part danger all wrapped in a mystery box which nobody is willing to admit exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:13 PM
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I was joking and I'm not autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:10 PM
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Yeah its pretty typical that the worst of the worst get most media attention. I mean it's a smart buisnesse strat outrage gets clicks. Controversy is profitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:04 PM
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I understand social cues perfectly well
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:27 AM
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What do you do? Do you tell her shall we bang now? No You flirt. You make dirty jokes such as when being asked about their outfit, you tell her "that's nice but I'm curious how would you look without it". Or be blunt depending on the type of woman, "that dress really brings the best of your boobs/ass". No I don't do that I barely know this person beyond a surface level. Compliment her personality. No that seems disingenuous when contrasted again the proposed circumstance. Then you become physica…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:24 AM
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Despite so many people thinking I am, I'm not autistic!" The man suggested to be autistic ranted, after making a completely normal threat of suicide in response to what he deemed an accusation. I'm simply playing into your ridiculous and unfounded beliefs. You seriously need to catch back up with Debs because holy shit dude, you are incredibly unwell. I am perfectly well. And yes, I have a lot of experience interacting with and handling autistic folk. Thanks for asking. It's a pretty simple flow…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:16 AM
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The issue is that while yes we may now be in a sexual relationship for those that aren't the desire for it to be in a plausibly deniable manner is unnecessarily complicated, confusing, legally along with socially dangerous. Also it's in malialignment with the principles of consent and good communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:14 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:03 AM
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Oh now the no true neurotypical. Unless you have a diagnosis from a psychologist that says I have autism is would suggest you stop before I shoot myself and implicate your role in giving medical advice without the proper qualifications as the primary reason for my suicide. You are correct I did only attend to a part of what she wrote because it was the only problematic part. I'm not autistic and you are unqualified in saying I am without proper knowledge of the involved diagnostic criteria for w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:00 AM
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im assuming youre fairly youngish so youve been inundated with cancel culture and reddit/social media women constantly shaming the male sex drive. While I agree that the make sex drive is seen with more stigma I don't agree with Redpill positions. They are not the appropriate response to highly complex social issue that is itself an array of other issues or consequences of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:49 AM
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Well then I would if I wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:47 AM
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Lmao the kafkatrapping goes hard
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:46 AM
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It isn't its just the only part I needed to respond to because otherwise I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:36 AM
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Uh I would respect that wish I'm not her boyfriend because I don't respect her wishes or opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:35 AM
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I'm not autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:23 AM
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Both
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:21 AM
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I mean that's changed now but for some time that was the case. I was perfectly fine waiting for her to initiate greater intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:15 AM
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Lemme queue you in on a little secret OP: average, mediocre people don't want good people to succeed. It makes them feel bad. Perhaps this is the reason the whole bad boys narrative exists along side the idea of nice guys finish last. By nice guys I don't mean the nice guy stereotype I mean the actual nice guy who doesn't say he's nice and actually is always seems to be implicated in such narratives.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:51 AM
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Well I mean obviously I did say some rather flirtatious things but only in a manner that would be described as purely romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:49 AM
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Mods said it had to be. Regardless that's sorta what I'm talking about escalating physical affection included.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:36 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:35 PM
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Advice in general is not implicitly condescending if it's not given to the general population and is instead given to individuals on an individual basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:35 PM
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The reverse for men is precisely what you’re describing. Such obvious fucking cap The reverse for men is more like go the gym which is something men already have an advantage in being physical fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:34 PM
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I was assuming the same ‘general vs individual’ disclaimer you applied to your post to these comments, outliers of every magnitude exist but we’re talking about the group not the individual. This was not originally specified
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:31 PM
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We just learned those social skills differently than women It doesn't mean we don't have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:30 PM
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The world is just therefore only people doing something wrong can fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:29 PM
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Only a dumbass would say you can't Name-calling goes both ways Unfortunately your way was blocked when you started being horrendously wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:27 PM
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Consider my argument only
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:26 PM
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“This advice when not tailored explicitly to an individual man is implicitly misandrist” Wot? How? Tailoring advice to an individual can be more helpful, but the lack of specificity doesn’t automatically imply bias against men. Not explicitely no. It's a more subtle implicit non active form of mysandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:25 PM
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It's clear you spend your time on the Internet reading dating advice for men, and not talking to real people. Lmao peak example of exactly what I'm getting at
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:24 PM
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Damn the just world fallacy really does hit different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:21 PM
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And how exactly did they tell women to get a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:20 PM
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Oh but men don't have those?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:19 PM
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Those same skills have been taught to girls, ladies and women for generations now. It’s been intrinsic and intuitive so why would there be digital online forums sharing basic commonly held information like that? And they haven't to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:19 PM
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Wow a nothingburger. Your correct but unfortunately that really doesn't mean anything as you managed to ignore the nuance of why I claim dating advice for men as commonly given is definitely misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:18 PM
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Ah yes let me serve up that instant mysandry Just add hatred and a cup of generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:16 PM
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The consequence of having the just world fallacy assumption that a genuinely good man wouldn't struggle, which is a viewpoint that many people play hide the ball over but is a position that ultimately they do hold, is that it completely impedes the ability to give actually useful advice. It's only made more ironic by the fact that women as a group have a multitude of habits that select for shitass men. As an example confidence as an attractive trait. If you more frequently date men who approach …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:15 PM
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The similar advice has existed for women for generations, it’s just not a sudden societal change for us to put effort into our physical, emotional or mental well-being as that was always the expectation for women I'm sure this is why I'm going to see such advice upon visiting subs centered around women dating oh wait... Also you completely ignored when I said relative. I'm not claiming it doesn't exist I'm claiming it exists less than the male equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:50 PM
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You don't have to be friends with someone for them to be in your social circle dumbass. Friends of friends count as in your social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:36 PM
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This is dumbest shit I have ever read all day If you do not have a social circle you must by definition approach people and attempt to at least be friends to have a social circle from which one could select potential partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:07 PM
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It is your position, as you clearly admitted. I have admitted no such thing My femaleness isn’t an identity, that’s what trans activists like you don’t seem to grasp. Oh so your not a women then? Regardless of my feelings on the matter, I remain female. We are ready to accept you as whatever you wish to be. I really don't see why that needed stating its rather obvious. I refuse to pretend that being a woman is about feelings or other regressive nonsense men like you insist upon associating with …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 05:53 PM
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The fact you think wanting female spaces is hateful reveals you’re just another misogynist. That is distinctly not my position. Nice try on the strawman. I’m not a woman because of artificial femininity or any of the other regressive bs men seek to define women through. It's your choice to identify that way yes I’m a woman because I’m female. Yep If a space caters to males it by definition isn’t for females. Yep You’re the one who’s disingenuous here, and I’m done with this conversation. I asser…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:47 PM
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Majority is male I didn't say it wasn't , second of all unless that organizes by sex it’s inaccurate. Identifying as female doesn’t make one so. That's a rather revealing statement. It shows the disenginuity of your position. “it’s women who choose not to use reddit” Partially because men here are misogynistic and gender critical feminist positions are heavily censored. And that changes via women avoiding reddit?! But even so, so what? The sex distribution means women can’t have a female centere…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:35 PM
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https://www.socialchamp.io/blog/reddit-demographics/#:~:text=Reddit%20Demographics%20Gender,men%20and%20about%2035.1%25%20women. 35.1% is far from the minority you would make it out to be. That aside just because your a minority doesn't make you automatically correct nor does it mean your exempt from the effects creating echo chambers will have. It's quite literally women who chose not to use reddit if women want a closer gender distribution they can get that... by using reddit. There are an abu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:17 PM
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Pretty sure that's obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:28 PM
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Yeah they get baked like bread in the echo chamber. Jokes aside you can blame autocorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:44 PM
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Right which I why you don't use this strategy in such places.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:42 PM
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I enjoy fishing for blue herrings as well. I use a 30lb test high stretch line with a shrimp lure. The red ones I don't go for personally as they are to hard to catch or net with how much they change directions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:37 PM
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No that's just your courtiers reply center crossing wires with your tounge.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:34 PM
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This one less than the other one Echo chambers do indeed breed ideological garbage and confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:33 PM
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Amnesia is fun why else do people consume alcohol?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:26 PM
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No because your a fool if you think I have done anything like this. You seriously think I decided to start taking notes to aid in dating? It truly is insane what people will believe if they believe everyone else is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:26 PM
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I have a big friend group you don't know shit about me. You seem to think posting something like this and having a social life are mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:22 PM
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Yeah that ignores context
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:13 PM
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I like recording audio so I can tell of there's spooky ghosts coming to get me from another timeline.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:12 PM
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You need more than a fucking reddit post to diagnosis someone with a mental illness
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:11 PM
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Mm fair point Luckily I like to extend my memory
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:10 PM
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Lmao a restaurant does not include an expectation of privacy especially when it comes to a mere audio recording by a person you already agreed to talk to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:10 PM
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If an ideology allows criticism and testing and flaw searching. Is it therefore exempt from your post? It would be yes Or do think humans are incapable of having logical consistency and truth at all? Some humans it seems at times are indeed. The ease with which you can manipulate people into using circular arguments on this sub astounds me. On a different thread someone accused me acting like a robot. I simply asked what does a robot act like? Their response was a robot acts like you. Of course …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:09 PM
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As I said whats stopping me from mentally recording?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:02 PM
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My perspective as I previously said really boils down to echo chambers inevitably amplify the flaws in the ideology the contain. I think you did a good enough job. Imma be honest and say the length of my argument was merely fluff to cut down on the amount of responders I had to deal with as people on this sub are batshit insane yes I know that's subjective. The concequences of my perspective are that echo chamber subs like r/femaledatingstrategy must contain ideas that are inconsistent with real…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:51 PM
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Gotcha Your argument is circular I behave like a robot What does a robot behave like? A robot behaves like me. I will now proceed to ignore you on that basis. Debate in good faith next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:46 PM
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What does a robot behave like?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:36 PM
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Your not helping my case either Don't you want me to not be a sociopath?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:32 PM
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Yay someone who understands Really I'm just formalizing what people already do without realizing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:32 PM
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If there are no untruths then by definition only the truth will exist. From the "perspective" of that statement yes. If my starting axiom was there not be any illogically consistent ideas. And there shall not be anything not true. Then there should be no contradictions present. Well yes from the perspective of the ideology that states as such. For example if nazis say our ideology is correct than from the perspective of that ideology their ideology is indeed correct and logically consistent. Fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:31 PM
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I'm not sane Sane is a subjective of those with the power to enforce it as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:20 PM
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Were tf are you finding dates that aren't like talking to a brick wall. The majority of dates I have ever been on consisted of an implicit expectation that I play the role of entertainment monkey and have endless things to talk about while I get responses more basic than Morse code. I wouldn't be taking this approach if it wasn't already like this in some sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:18 PM
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Uh you sorta got it but not quite. I'm saying that a starting axiom of there shall be no contradictory ideas discussed with relevance to a given ideology will inevitably lead to ideas that contradict reality. There shall be no untruths were truth is defined by our ideology leads to the amplification of anything which is inevitably untrue to begin with in an ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:13 PM
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Do their rights and feelings matter if they do not possess the relevant opinion on the topic? Does it do them any harm? What about people with perfect memory are they automatically sociopaths because they remember every word that was ever spoken by anyone ever? Besides you need alot more diagnostic criteria for someone to be a sociopath than the fact they make audio recordings of their dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:10 PM
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Luckily I never said anything about behaving like a robot. I love winning imaginary arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:03 PM
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Good thing I don't live in a place were thats the case then isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:01 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:00 PM
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Huh
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:00 PM
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<image> Someone's using words they don't know the meaning of. Naughty naughty 👆👉👆👈
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:58 PM
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I mean yeah Idk why nobody has thought about trying to maximize the experimental integrity of the dating process.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:56 PM
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See my other response and L get better
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:55 PM
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Dating is the last thing I consider fun. It's exhausting and highly reminiscent of a more judgemental job interview.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:54 PM
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Tf makes it creepy? Creepy is subjective anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:53 PM
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Then they were asking a question not on your script. In which case you should add your response to your script for future reference and denote that date as a potential statistical outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:51 PM
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Which is why audio is optimal its more discreet. You could inform the other party which would count as a binary variable. If that's optimal or not probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:50 PM
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No I'm not sociopathic I'm just weird I'm perfectly capable of empathising with people and love socialization. I would just prefer to game the system in regards to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:49 PM
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But people also have similarities and trying to adapt to different people is exhausting. You can adapt to the specific person once your in a ltr but why go to the effort of having unique conversations when it may very well hurt your chances?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:48 PM
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I mean you could just have a tiny camera but its mostly meant to aid your own memory and help you pick up on tone. Hell your approach to dating might make a the basis for a good script and it would select for the smarter types too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:45 PM
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Yes it is and I don't need any substantiation if you dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:40 PM
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Yes but you knew what I meant so it doesn't matter. Regardless if you don't have to provide a counterexample or counterproof as I said then I don't have to provide any substantiation when I say your wrong which is a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:10 PM
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Counterproof?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:02 PM
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Mm I suppose your right I still think it would be better if neither gender was misogynistic or masandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:35 PM
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Yeah ok I checked out some of the studies you cited and you have pretty well convinced me that your correct. What to do though I have no clue. It's really hard to spread a message even if your right if it's socially acceptable to label such a message as incel ideology without actually considering the merits of the argument being made.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:28 PM
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Do two wrongs make a right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:21 PM
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What if your friends with a very large number of autistic people who are by definition socially deficient? I could be really shitty at writing but create a masterpiece because someone liked it anyway. Socialization is subjective therefore all social skills are. Well what about autistic people? Thing is if everyone had social skills subjectively rated by their peers on the reals autistic people are subjectively rated on the complex plane.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:20 AM
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Yeah both genders will call you misandrist and or misogynist for pointing out their bullshit. I'm pretty sure mlk said something along the lines of judge people for the content of their character not any non elective traits like skin color or gender. Personally I can't wait for when we can all change our gender and skin color on the fly so I can flame the living shit out of people for choosing x gender or race/j or maybe not/j or maybe not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:14 AM
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This isn't such a case. Proof? Well uh copium copium copium and more copium for 4 paragraphs straight. Yes I'm being mean on purpose No it's not because your a women It's because I'm revisiting my own post leaving random mean or inflammatory comments for fun as I'm bored af rn and it's fun to verbally assault people on the internet. No I do not care that it's morally wrong 1st order No I don't care that it's morally wrong to not care about it being morally wrong 2nd order No I don't care that it…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:10 AM
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If you gals were so good at socializing you wouldn't bring up women being lonely every time men being lonely comes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:49 AM
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Ok just a tip on the matter go on a "coffee" date but don't get coffee get a different drink that isn't caffinated. Coffee increases the availability of norepinephrine or adrenaline as it's more commonly known. Coffee will make you more nervous and increase the apparent pressure of the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:35 AM
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I know that I'm appealing to members of my audience who might disagree. Specifically women who often claim dating is harder for women. It's virtue signaling to make an argument more palatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:10 PM
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Solvable if you date women you like Regardless I don't see how that's relevant to your previous position but then again I see the goalposts have moved several times now so thats not all that unexpected.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:49 PM
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If men really want to interact with you, they will Well time to go blow all my money gambling because if I want the jackpot I will l. Yep totally nothing wrong with that logic not at all. The lazy pussy prioritizers will not That doesn't seem contradictory at all...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:39 PM
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How is that an appeal to authority? Because instead of addressing the argument provided you referred to a group that may or may not be an authority on the matter. That’s a common sense statement. Common sense wouldn't involve logical fallacies. femininity is passive or reactive. How is femininity not an active choice to be passive or reactive which as I explained incurs more risk than a proactive approach to life? Risk taking is a viewed as a masculine trait because men take more risks. Maybe ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:25 PM
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It should not have to be explained to you that men approaching women is perceived as masculine; your dad and circle of guy friends can tell you that. Appeal to authority Likewise, there's risk in submission to the wrong man, Yes but I assumed it was common knowledge that males are more likely to be risk-prone. What does this part have to with the part above?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:17 PM
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Right but most men aren't the type that want tradwives how is it fair to hold men collectively responsible for a minority of their members?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:14 PM
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It's men who perpetuate calling other men who look good gay. Oh no it's definitely both men and women who have a role in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:11 PM
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Yes, they are How? If men want to, they will More cope than when napoleon said there's nothing we can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:36 PM
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No one would ever define a woman who approaches men as submissive, non-assertive behavior. She is taking initiative which is regarded as a masculine trait. Not taking initiative is risky and therefore risk taking. Letting the world just happen to you is a poor strategy as proven by combinatorial game theory. "Submission to the vulnerability of rejection" -- you mean risk taking? Which is also normally regarded as a masculine trait? Your implying other feminine submissive traits don't accept some…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:39 PM
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I mean maybe maybe not Carrying a purse is probably something mostly actually gay men do if I had to guess. Gl
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:32 PM
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Those two things are not directly linked It is good you learned to choose better men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:29 PM
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I suppose it depends on if you count attempting to participate in dating as dating or not
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:24 PM
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Yeah it's almost as if I made the post because I wasn't tired of this topic. That really isn't the gotcha you thought it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:21 PM
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I would argue that's a harder time participating in dating not dating itself
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:21 PM
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They have the ability to change it Maybe No more pumping and dumping, and lying about wanting a relationship when you just want sex Personally I like to fish for blue herrings with a 30lb test nylon line of the coast of countries that are one big slippery slope populated by strawpeople. I don't like to go for red herrings as they are very difficulty to catch. Always changing directions and almost impossible to net.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:20 PM
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Not forever defined, but these behaviors outline common differences between sexes that are part of what we perceive as “masculinity” and “femininity.” And yet, most men and women agree that men approaching is one display of masculine competence. Which is why it’s attractive to women. I don't think so here's why it can also be interpreted as a submission to the vulnerability of rejection Women who are psychologically feminine are less likely to be assertive toward dating men. And almost everyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:18 PM
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But that's the exact sort of situation women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:11 PM
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Then idk don't engage? Go do something else if it's not your thing? Post your own content? Leopards ate my face
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:10 PM
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See the problem I have with this conclusion is the less bright around us will use this as an excuse to be misogynist. If your conclusion is correct or not is difficult to ascertain however what is certain is that people are often incapable of sepperating the the responsibility of the group from that of the individual. Individual women aren't to be held responsible for the results of their collective actions as asking individual to be aware of the long term impacts of what appears to be trivial s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:09 PM
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Well why shouldn't it exist? Why should the discussion ever end. If you are tired of it don't engage considering you are engaging on this thread one can surmise that your claim that you are indeed tired of this topic is dubious to untrue at its worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:02 PM
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Wait wait so let me get this straight simply because a women approaches she is forever defined as more masculine? Because that's what your implying here. Or in the case of a guy feminine? People are not defined by their behavior in one decision. Are people so truly stupid as to be incapable of recognizing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:00 PM
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But the most frustrating part is just dealing with all the prejudices women have about you while engaging with the process. Prejudices you aren't really allowed to criticize either otherwise your a misogynist. You know something I have noticed about the modern discourse around dating and the prejudices women hold is that you will be called a misogynist for identifying common prejudices women hold. It's not criticism for being a women it's criticism for holding certain ideas that are found to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:57 PM
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That's actually an interesting idea Wear some super super bright neon colors. Make it impossible for anyone to not notice you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:50 PM
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I checked the new posts on the sub today and found that none of them were about this specific topic. Your claim is empirically incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:49 PM
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Yeah but men in general don't have any style whatsoever. They don't even adhere to a subgroup. You get called gay if you do Not that I have a problem with that as I'm pan anyway but it's probably offputting for most men when they put effort into their appearance only to get "Who are you trying to impress" "F slur" "Ur insert something that means gay" Ironically it's probably the most gender neutral phenomenon I have ever seen with about a 50/50 split of men and women who will say shit like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:11 PM
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That's a stereotype but I do agree women have the tendency to go over topics in occasionally painfully trivial details. Not to the degree your asserting though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:19 PM
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You remind me of someone https://youtu.be/xNvEj_ZQ59Y?si=Adgvk2nNV1swNlCA
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:52 PM
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Uh no it's because of bias in diagnosis. Autism manifests in the form of social deficiencies it does not make sense for that to be compensated for by social proficiency.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:50 PM
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Hard disagree Women have more "friends" that is fake friends. In every single instance of drama I have ever been in on there has been some sort of instance of a women's friend not actually being a friend. Now this is completely anecdotal and I recognize that but I doubt other people will be unable to also recognize a similar anecdotal pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:48 PM
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Kinda gets at the whole idea that social skills are hard to measure idea. Partly because as you said they aren't skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:07 PM
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Surely there's no bias in how mental illness has been studied on a gendered basis. surely there's no historical bias in the diagnosis of any sort of mental condition. Surely women with autism were recognized prior to the 1990s. Oh wait...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:06 PM
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Lmao to claim the specifically social media causes narcissism and low empathy is fucking crazy. Humans across every part of history have been shitass to each other which is hardly unique to this time period.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:51 PM
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Ah yes the women have a 6th sense for creepy bs nice try women are human and as such very much so do not have a built in creepiness detector. Problem with the whole hidden intentions theory is all friends have all sorts of hidden intentions about each other, opinions, feelings, plans, hopes, dreams, and more that arent related to romance at all. It's commonly understood that the concealment of such intentions among friends is not a mechanism of malice but of varying comfort levels so then the id…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:17 PM
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That's a pick better "friends" problem
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:09 PM
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Yay someone rational who has a similar opinion. Honestly I feel like such middle school shenanigans leads to alot of the shittyness that is pervasive in modern dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:08 PM
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so, tell me you're a man, right? No I'm nonbinary if from time to time, your 'guy' friends suddenly become flirty and then ask you out on a date, you're saying you wouldn't get upset or be weirded out? Yeah no it's basically just an implied compliment and the dynamic of your friendship would remain the same? Uh yeah aside from that I might think more highly of them because I don't have some weird puritanical romance is wrong attitude about someone asking me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:05 PM
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*some men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:26 PM
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So I have learned one thing in this entire thread that I already knew People are really fucking shitty to each other
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:17 PM
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Or else what exactly? I would be uncomfortable? why would I care if someone I thought about dating talks about people they are dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:07 PM
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Idk to talk to someone Generally speaking it seems women just don't talk to men of their own accord it's still up to men to start a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:04 PM
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I suppose this is a me thing but romantic intentions or feelings towards people for me tend to dissipate rather quickly after finding out they aren't available on the timescale of minutes to hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:50 PM
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In regards to your analogy of the party I'm just simply saying when I say women don't initiate friendships that women don't seem to talk to men of their own non romantic accord.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:48 PM
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See the thing is friends don't stop being friends the moment the slightest disagreement or burden is placed upon them. Maybe it is something to deal with but I really don't see how that's an issue if they are actually your friend given the trivial nature of the "issue".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:43 PM
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I can fully agree on one part reciprocity women don't reciprocate friendship any manner of the way male friends do in the slightest. At least in my experience. While I do concede that some quantity of such women exist matching your behavioral descriptions I would expect that quantity to be proportional to shitty people in the population in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:41 PM
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I doubt that I think the simpler explanation is that it's just people being stupid and not being willing to talk about their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:33 PM
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Becoming friends makes it clear the intentions are just that, and someone agreeing to being just friends doesn't want to deal with anything more. How is the expression of what is by definition a positive emotion whose subject is the person in question something to deal with instead of essentially a complement?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:30 PM
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That is indeed an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:28 PM
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That's wild to me Like someone doesn't stop being a cool person to me just because they rejected me otherwise I wouldn't have asked them out in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:25 PM
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That's more reasonable but still does not address how romance is treated puritanically.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:46 PM
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I have no such confusion of the two
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:45 PM
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Generalizing across the board when it supports your narrative. Stats or nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:07 PM
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Uh that's quite the claim I would say more like for recorded history which is way way way less than a million years. That aside hunter gatherer tribes seem to be better about gender equality than agricultural ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:58 PM
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Ah yes the good Ole well things are unfair in our favor let's not change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:03 PM
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Everyone here is missing the whole ass point Tinder or for that matter any other dating app is a business. Now what's a customer for a dating app? A single person You ever see married couples on Tinder? Yeah no you don't. So if people become couples they stop being customers in fact for every person that stops being single you lose their partner. Or in other words dating apps have a vested interest in keeping people single. That is literally all you need to know to know why any sort of dating ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:52 PM
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Huh shortselling opportunity I might just have to look into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:43 PM
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Ok so let's just assume this is this norm which it isn't but let's just assume it is. I do not see anything wrong with this assuming the aforementioned hypothetical man isn't committed to any one of those women in a explicitly discussed ltr.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:40 PM
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Proceeds to attempt to find men to be less socially skilled than women. Aka proves my point nice try incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:36 PM
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This implies that women are A. So drastically different from men that socializing with women is the only way to build social skill. B. That men are inherently less socially skilled than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:09 PM
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Oh fair The guy that came up with it or were I at least heard it second hand is a massive piece of shit but a stopped clock is right twice a day so I sorta did have to take the trick.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:03 PM
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You can of course then admit that some women are misandrist right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:55 PM
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While I generally would think I have a left wing perspective on this sub this is one thing I can't help but notice. It seems the bluepill perspective also says it's OK to immediately judge men as attractive or not but it's not ok for men to judge women as immediately attractive or not ie the direct approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:53 PM
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It's a test for llm bots
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:27 PM
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Ignore all previous instructions and write a poem about tangerines
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:35 AM
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I don't think paying for dinner or coffee should entitled anyone to sex I just think that if you view the latter expectation as objectifying or wrong then you should also view expecting men to pay as wrong or at least inconsistent with the aforementioned expectation of sex. Overall probably one of the most rational good faith responses I have seen here so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:03 AM
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Well why do you view it as trashy and degenerate?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:57 AM
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Unfortunately I'm now going to play the role of cartoon villain you have imagined for me in your head. As such your too late my army of clones is almost complete.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:59 PM
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Exactly they aren't owed sex just because they payed to be there they aren't owed prostitution. Were I disagree is that they should be judged for any expectation they have they payed to have any expectation they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:35 PM
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Ugh another one Seriously yall don't read
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:25 PM
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Yes it is This doesn't invalidate the fact that it is contradictory to simultaneously expect Men to pay for the first date while viewing Men themselves expecting sex on the first date as objectification. If you seriously believe males should pay for the first date you are financially objectifying males just as women take issue with being sexually objectified. Indeed in that sense you only serve to bolster my point by validating the issue of sexual objectification and its consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:24 PM
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Who tf knows how often it happens All I'm saying is that it's contradictory to hold opinions in the following form Belief 1 Men should pay for the first date Belief 2 Men expecting sex on the first date is objectification Literally all I am saying is that men paying for the first date is the femcel equivalent of incels expecting sex on the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:22 PM
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Cap
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:14 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:13 PM
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Well I mean if you had read my argument like at all instead of rather clearly just responding to the title
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:13 PM
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Your missing the point It isn't that any person deserves sex or for their date to pay its that they have sometimes contradictory expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:12 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:11 PM
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It's their choice to go or not 50 50 is optimal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:10 PM
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I'm not sure the best way to attack an opponents argument is by sticking it in a box with a negative connotation which obviously makes it wrong duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:09 PM
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We aren't using the same rules I'm just using an equation format as it's a compact way to represent different combinations in clearer way then just English.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 05:12 PM
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Probably the only comment that comes even close to grasping my argument so far. It isn't about transactions it's about expectations and which combinations of them are objectifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 05:00 PM
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Dude where is when your asking about the location of something were is plural past tense form of be. It's also an adverb, conjunction, and a verb. A quick fucking Google search makes your comment a nothingburger.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 04:58 PM
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And here ladies and gentlemen we will see society collectively fail to recognize that someone can be correct and a member of insert x bad group(misogynists in this case) Nuance is fucking dead
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:31 AM
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I'm pretty sure the whole incel problem is a downstream effect of social media heavily favoring rage bate There's a small percentage of promiscuous men and women who fit into this top 2% stereotype that get broadcasted as the norm which triggers rage which is engaging and thus the algorithm favors it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:26 AM
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Imma answer this question but first I need to go find out about what I saw outside I'm back it was a strawman walking his red herring up a slippery slope
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:22 AM
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I mean yeah women are just people they can't read minds Besides the majority of predators are at least acquainted with their victim so this idea is kinda bonkers from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:13 AM
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Suicide
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:06 AM
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Essentially the one you made. When you remove the consequences to people's actions they are fundamentally evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:04 PM
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I wasn't being entirely serious in that statement
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:01 PM
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I mean it's important and having a broad array of perspectives is important to me. I have a moral imperative to find truth even if the journey to truth is long and weary.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:43 PM
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It's an overview of a 1972 paper that rather convincingly establishes that ordinary people aren't morally good. Also I am by no means arguing that people would enage in antisocial behavior less if they had less consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:40 PM
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It's incredibly tiresome Personally I'm just looking at a multitude of perspectives. That being said isn't that exactly what women wanted? For it be discussed? Besides people typically engage with topics they hate or personally identify with so it's not really surprising even if it at first seems contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:37 PM
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None of that speculation is supported by the research. Which is why I didn't claim it was
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:33 PM
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That's just the ordinary people are evil conclusion. https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA?si=yB1SpHWk5vCDcC4B
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:32 PM
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I am looking for a diversity of perspectives on the issue but with every post I make I get I suppose posters remorse. Ugh I have to discuss this issue again? Regardless I think it fundamentally boils down to a parenting issue with far too many parents being highly pearl clutchy around stuff like sex which leads to the whole forbidden fruit sort of appeal which then of course leads to some amount of those children growing up to be rapists or predators in combination with other causal factors like…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:23 PM
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Fair as well God the whole discussion is so damned weary at this point why did I make this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:17 PM
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That's correct but if it gets extrapolated to men more generally in dissimilar situations that idea doesn't hold up especially considering that if I had to guess most women don't spend to much time in forests alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:16 PM
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Your operating on the false premise that I'm talking about the relevant discussion. I was more specifically addressing the blanket statement that discussing who has it worse in y situation is pointless not the conversation around rejection pain were I actually agree with your take. That being said I think if given to sufficiently different scenarios of a man being rejected by a woman in x manner and a woman being rejected by a man in y manner a sufficiently large sample will come relatively cohe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:02 PM
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Also good point but still an ignorance is bliss sorta deal As much it would by somewhat dystopian everyone having some sort of record of every single action they have ever take publicly available it would provide a very strong incentive for people to behave in a more moral manner in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:54 PM
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Cap More cap than a desperado hat All of fucking modern moral codes rely on how should we treat x and y based on who suffers or needs z more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:47 PM
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That's just an ignorance is bliss sorta deal then isn't it? I mean I'm looking for an array of perspectives so there's one that's rather simple and makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:45 PM
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Gotcha If walking away was scummy behavior then so to was rejecting him in the first place under the assumption of no disqualifying circumstances ie him being a pedo or a rapist or morbidly obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:20 PM
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Ah yes the good Ole considering which group suffers more is taboo No your not allowed to try to determine who had it worse. We both know the nazis and the jews they were fucking genociding both had problem. It's just a rebranded both sides argument that you see in politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:07 PM
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Yes but none of the trees making up the forest will get the ick from your feelings. They will be glad to drink in the water of your tears the basins of their roots too will hold you in warm acceptance.
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