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| 1 | My parents found out I’m upset about being circumcised as an infant and told me it was absolutely necessary.Alright we are just going in circles at this point and I have lost interest. Point is, circumcision grief is not a choice for those that have it, arguing you can choose not to have it because you personally don’t just shows that you don’t have it. We both think circumcision of infants is bad, let’s do all we can to stop it. | /r/MensRights | 03/06/20 01:40 AM |
| 1 | My parents found out I’m upset about being circumcised as an infant and told me it was absolutely necessary.Yea I mean you could...but you have the choice not to which is awesome and I am jealous. But also, that’s not the whole picture nor is that a choice for everyone to make still. I feel like I keep making the same point and im not trying to be argumentative, but you have somehow ignored it because you personally haven’t experienced it. Just because you don’t have circumcision grief you assume other people have a choice to somehow have superhuman control to rewire how their brain works. Just becaus… | /r/MensRights | 03/06/20 12:09 AM |
| 3 | My parents found out I’m upset about being circumcised as an infant and told me it was absolutely necessary.I am not trying to say grief and depression are the same, but rather telling someone "just get over it" for circumcision grief has correlations to the latter. Circumcision grief is just the term used to describe something, but it isn't as simple as boiling down one type of grief, such as losing a loved one, is the same as another type. Nor would I argue it is necessarily the best term to even use. That is the one that has been adopted and widespread and it will suffice for the purposes it serves… | /r/MensRights | 02/06/20 03:31 PM |
| 4 | My parents found out I’m upset about being circumcised as an infant and told me it was absolutely necessary.There are enough things you can know that lead to circumcision grief though. It’s not just about not knowing the difference personally. Let me try another analogy. I feel like the way your viewing this is like someone who doesn’t have depression telling a person with depression why they should just not have it. “just be happy, it’s not like anything bad is happening to you Right now, you have nothing to be depressed about” It’s not a simple thing to explain, so I don’t really know how to describ… | /r/MensRights | 02/06/20 02:58 AM |
| 9 | My parents found out I’m upset about being circumcised as an infant and told me it was absolutely necessary.Circumcision grief isn’t a choice though. Imagine if a girl is raped and she suffers psychologically afterwards, she isn’t choosing to suffer from the psychological fallout that comes from a physical act, it just happens. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/20 08:37 PM |
| 3 | A wholesome response to a silly argument in favor of circumcisionFor adults is important because adult males have access to forms of pain mediation that infants do not. Many if not most infants are not given adequate pain relief during the procedure, and none are given anything during the recovery period. | /r/MensRights | 17/05/20 06:55 PM |
| 7 | What do you think about this post on circumcision and FGM?I am pretty certain every culture that cuts women also cuts men. In those scenarios it's not like the women are held down and cut with a dirty knife, and the men are taken to a first rate sanitized hospital. Comparing ritual female circumcision to medicalized male circumcision is not a fair comparison. The only way to compare the two is medicalized male circumcision vs. medicalized female circumcision and ritual male circumcision vs. ritual female circumcision. When compared in this regard, ther… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/05/20 06:39 PM |
| 2 | America and Circumcisionhttps://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pdf/risk/cdc-hiv-idu-fact-sheet.pdf "About 1 in 10 new HIV diagnoses in the United States are attributed to injection drug use or male-to-male sexual contact and injection drug use.*" "Sharing syringes is the second-riskiest behavior for getting HIV. Receptive anal sex is the riskiest." https://www.hhs.gov/hepatitis/blog/2018/06/13/experts-link-opioid-crisis-and-infectious-diseases.html https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hiv-increase-masschusetts-opioid-needle-sharing_n_5ad4a… | /r/MensRights | 14/01/20 01:56 PM |
| 3 | America and CircumcisionCircumcision definitely does not protect against HIV the way some make it out to. I’m just trying to say it’s more complicated than just higher circumcision is equivalent to higher HIV. There are confounding factors that need to be considered for anyone claiming either side. Edit: dirty needles is an example of one factor and used to be a prevalent way people contracted HIV. Nowadays they have disposable needles so it’s not as much of an issue but it was in the past. The first article under the … | /r/MensRights | 13/01/20 05:01 PM |
| 3 | America and CircumcisionHIV rates in America are not necessarily related to circumcision status. Dirty needles account for much more of the infections then unprotected sex, so it is not accurate to crossover the data to show circumcision increases HIV just as it is disingenuous to use that data to show Circumcision will decrease HIV. Also, the HIV propaganda used to promote circumcision is from female to male transmission data. American HIV rates from intercourse have a lot of male to male transmission, which no study … | /r/MensRights | 13/01/20 04:16 PM |
| 2 | I lost a friend to circumcisionYes I am clearly the uneducated intactivist in this situation. /s | /r/MensRights | 02/01/20 02:59 PM |
| 2 | I lost a friend to circumcisionI think the biggest proponents of continuing it are new fathers who were cut at birth and in denial of the harm. For someone to go against circumcising their child they have to admit to themself that being intact is better than being cut, and they can’t rationalize it. There are obviously other reasons such as religion but the majority in my experience (in the U.S.) is not religious. The new moms tend to allow the father to make the final say, and their confirmation bias blinds them to the ethic… | /r/MensRights | 02/01/20 04:16 AM |
| 6 | I lost a friend to circumcisionIt is legal It’s not about religion in the vast majority of cases. Take your anti-semitism elsewhere, this is exactly the attitude that undermines people fighting to end infant circumcision. | /r/MensRights | 02/01/20 02:54 AM |
| 9 | I lost a friend to circumcisionI ask myself this question every day. | /r/MensRights | 02/01/20 02:37 AM |
| 12 | I lost a friend to circumcisionSorry for your loss. I am going to crosspost this over to the communities that will offer their condolences and understand your loss. It seems another great person has been lost to this terrible practice I wish would end. The trauma is real and many men suffer in silence. | /r/MensRights | 02/01/20 02:00 AM |
| 16 | I lost a friend to circumcisionI’m so sorry for your loss. Did he commit suicide due to mental trauma from circumcision? I only ask because you didn’t specifically state exactly what happened. Stay strong and I wish you the best in getting through this | /r/MensRights | 02/01/20 01:38 AM |
| 4 | I find it shocking how common male infant routine circumcision is in America!http://read.gov/aesop/117.html | /r/MensRights | 03/12/19 04:44 AM |
| 2 | I demand reparations for circumcisionI don’t think a lawyer would take that case | /r/MensRights | 22/11/19 10:18 PM |
| -5 | Circumcision is a legal and socially supported male genital mutilation, this should tell you everything you need to know about your innate disposability to this world.That website is such a pitfall of propaganda it's hard to believe they would give an accurate story about kellogg. Maybe it's the exception, but I find it hard to trust anything on that website. | /r/MGTOW | 22/11/19 04:34 PM |
| 2 | I demand reparations for circumcisionIt depends on the state, my state was 4 years after 18, which was worthless because I was 23 when I learned about it. Furthermore, if your parents signed the consent form which is the the majority of the cases, you are pretty much completely out of luck, so let's not get people's hopes up. | /r/MensRights | 22/11/19 04:16 PM |
| 13 | Circumcision is a legal and socially supported male genital mutilation, this should tell you everything you need to know about your innate disposability to this world.Seriously? MGM is the epitome of the abuse of men, and should be near or at the top of the list of everyones concern. | /r/MGTOW | 22/11/19 04:13 PM |
| 7 | Circumcision is a legal and socially supported male genital mutilation, this should tell you everything you need to know about your innate disposability to this world.I think you meant if it’s for ANY reason, go right ahead! | /r/MGTOW | 22/11/19 03:16 PM |
| 5 | Discussion. I plan on circumcising my son if I have one some day.The issue with believing any American institution is they cannot be relied upon to be unbiased. Whether the AAP was biased, (see link) and then the CDC just adapted the AAP's decision, and then the Mayo clinic maybe took the AAP's position as well (not sure just speculation). Well the AAP position expired but if that led to the CDC position which isn't expired yet but based on the same conclusion from the 8 people who were biased then why would it be any more reliable? Almost every other pediatr… | /r/MensRights | 21/11/19 09:37 PM |
| 4 | Discussion. I plan on circumcising my son if I have one some day.Do you hate your parents for it(not /s)? My parents believed the doctor when he told them it should be done to prevent penile cancer. We now know this, and every other medical reason has been a fabrication of propaganda and disproven. They thought what they were doing was in my best interest, as almost all parents probably think. Do I hate them? No. Will I ever forgive them? No. It was a different time and they did not have access to accurate information that may have made them realize the docto… | /r/MensRights | 21/11/19 09:19 PM |
| 7 | Discussion. I plan on circumcising my son if I have one some day.You didn't answer my first question so I will ask again. Why do you think parents rights should supercede human rights? So it should be illegal to tie someone down and cut them at 10 days old? What exactly is the difference between a 9 day old and 11 day old that makes it seem like there is less moral implication at play? What if I want to cut my 12 year old? The law upholds that I have parental rights so I should be able to do that right? Are we creating some new category of human age where inf… | /r/MensRights | 21/11/19 07:43 PM |
| 8 | Discussion. I plan on circumcising my son if I have one some day.So why do you think parents rights should supercede human rights? So a child is not an adult, therefore they don't deserve their rights to be upheld until they are 18? At what age exactly should it be illegal to tie someone down and forcibly remove parts of their genitals? Should you be able to do that to a 17 year old? What if you went to your parents house and woke up to find they had you sedated and removed part of your penis? What age exactly is that ok or not ok? 21? 18? 15? 12? 9? | /r/MensRights | 21/11/19 07:21 PM |
| 6 | Discussion. I plan on circumcising my son if I have one some day.Your joke makes no sense if you understand the anatomy of a penis though. All of the sensitive parts are on the inside and the foreskin protects them so there is no rubbing against your underwear. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/19 07:15 PM |
| 11 | Discussion. I plan on circumcising my son if I have one some day.You seem to be blind to the hypocrisy that you supposedly support mens rights while at the same time saying you are going to deprive your child of his right to bodily autonomy and a normal functioning penis because...cultural and confirmation bias has taught people to prefer mutilated genitals Fine‐touch pressure thresholds in the adult penis Male circumcision and sexual function in men and women: a survey-based, cross-sectional study in Denmark. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/19 06:54 PM |
| 1 | Stumbled upon a circumcision post on a debate page... this makes my blood boil.Why the desire for a rebuttal? I wasn’t really trying to argue over semantics. “...surpasses personal regret over a clear understanding of harm caused or wrong doing.” “...or even the realisation it causes harm” Wouldn’t these statements contradict your original claim of they know what they did? This gives me the impression they really don’t understand what they did. The point about being in the U.S. in an area where rates are still currently (at least as far as most recent statistics) 80%+ was … | /r/MensRights | 21/11/19 01:27 AM |
| 9 | Stumbled upon a circumcision post on a debate page... this makes my blood boil.Based on your use of the word nappies I am going to assume you are not American, but correct me if I’m wrong. While you may have experienced a mother’s regret, I don’t believe it’s the norm by any means. The cultural context plays a role in how people think (cultural cognition) and living in an area with an 80%+ circumcision rate would destroy your perceptions rather quickly. If your argument held water you would see mothers opting not to circumcise their later children because they learned thei… | /r/MensRights | 20/11/19 10:25 PM |
| 22 | Stumbled upon a circumcision post on a debate page... this makes my blood boil.Don’t assume they realize they have made a mistake. You are giving them too much credit. Denial is a hell of a drug | /r/MensRights | 20/11/19 08:31 PM |
| 5 | Google's definition for circumcisions are biast towards women. Apparently it's sexist towards women but not men.Merriam-Webster also has a biased definition of circumcision. The definition of Circumcision on Merriam-Webster: 1: the act of circumcising a:: the cutting off of the foreskin of males that is practiced as a religious rite by Jews and Muslims and by others as a social custom or for potential health benefits (as improved hygiene) b: FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION The definition of FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION: : a procedure performed especially as a cultural rite that typically includes the total or pa… | /r/MensRights | 25/10/19 05:30 PM |
| 19 | Does circumcision lead to lower condom use?I completely agree and have myself hypothesized this theory. Some experts criticize the studies claiming circumcision is a cure-all for HIV and STDS using this as one of the reasons. Lack of sex education and promotion of propaganda in Africa that circumcision will prevent the men from getting HIV may have devastating long term outcomes if they believe they are protected from HIV, and find they can no longer wear a condom because they feel nothing. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/19 03:06 PM |
| 3 | I am circumcised and don't really understand the hate against it.So a UTI is at the fault of the caregiver, not the status of circumcision? Awesome job proving my point! That means you agree that it is not circumcision that prevents UTI, but other confounding variables. According to Cultural Bias in the AAP's 2012 Technical Report again: "It is commonly accepted that medical procedures always need to be justified because of their invasive nature and possible damaging effects. Preventive medical procedures need more and stricter justification than do therapeut… | /r/MensRights | 13/10/19 10:19 PM |
| 3 | I am circumcised and don't really understand the hate against it.Whataboutism again, go figure, deflection fallacy. You are an open book. Can you actually defend a single statement without changing the topic and failing miserably at using basic logic. | /r/MensRights | 13/10/19 10:11 PM |
| 3 | I am circumcised and don't really understand the hate against it.Already answered your question on religion, again using a deflection fallacy to talk about religion again when it had nothing to do with previous statement. You are the one pushing something on someone else. I am literally arguing that you should not commit forced body modifications of infants, and you are arguing that it is ok. That is the basis of the argument. The hypocritical statement of you "not pushing something on someone" yet arguing for pushing circumcision on a baby that can't consent… | /r/MensRights | 13/10/19 10:08 PM |
| 2 | I am circumcised and don't really understand the hate against it.Gosh I feel bad for you, it's actually hilarious how you try to debate. All I did was provide you with tons of contradictory evidence over multiple posts that was relevant to each specific topic and provided lots of information that is backed up by science. Yet your response is to cherry pick the one thing in my statement that has nothing to do with the actual argument to comment on. OBVIOUSLY what you eat effects your health, but making assumptions based on absolutely no evidence that someones … | /r/MensRights | 13/10/19 09:49 PM |
| 3 | I am circumcised and don't really understand the hate against it.Sexually Transmitted Infections and Male Circumcision: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis "Intact men were found to be at significantly greater risk for GUD versus GDS, GUD, syphilis, and any HPV, while at significantly lower risk for NSU and genital warts. No significant differences were seen for chlamydia, gonorrhea, HSV, chancroid, or high-risk HPV. There was a trend for intact men be a lower overall risk for an STI that was statistically significant when a clear outlier studies is removed… | /r/MensRights | 13/10/19 05:17 PM |
| 2 | I am circumcised and don't really understand the hate against it.The logic behind your arguments for circumcision is best done when they are newborns is seriously flawed and unscientific if you think it has anything to do with "bodies uncorrupted by junk crap food and other garbage." Want to learn about consent? These papers will help you understand it better, which is clearly an issue of contention. Yes babies cannot consent, that is why ethicist's write articles discussing the intricacies of consent for people who just don't get it. The child's right to bod… | /r/MensRights | 13/10/19 05:11 PM |
| 2 | I am circumcised and don't really understand the hate against it.HIV MYTH: If you believe information that is inaccurate and flawed, its understandable you come to the wrong conclusions about the data. Immunological functions of the human prepuce "Of the 36 published studies examining the relation between the circumcised penis and HIV infection, 15 found a negative correlation, 4 found a positive correlation, and 16 found no statistically significant difference." (sources cited in paper) Critique of African RCTs into MaleCircumcision and HIV Sexual Transmissi… | /r/MensRights | 13/10/19 05:01 PM |
| 3 | I am circumcised and don't really understand the hate against it.Circumcised men at twice the risk for cancer-causing HPV, study shows A costly covenant: ritual circumcision and urinary tract infection. "Ritual circumcision in neonates may cause a urinary tract infection within 2 weeks of the procedure." | /r/MensRights | 13/10/19 04:47 PM |
| 2 | I am circumcised and don't really understand the hate against it.Cultural Bias in the AAP's 2012 Technical Report "The conclusions of the AAP Technical Report and Policy Statement are far from those reached by physicians in most other Western countries. As mentioned, only 1 of the aforementioned arguments has some theoretical relevance in relation to infant male circumcision; namely, the questionable argument of UTI prevention in infant boys. The other claimed health benefits are also questionable, weak, and likely to have little public health relevance in a … | /r/MensRights | 13/10/19 04:43 PM |
| 3 | I am circumcised and don't really understand the hate against it.Lost Boys: An Estimate of U.S. Circumcision-Related Infant Deaths Adding Insult to Injury: Acquisition of Erectile Dysfunction from Circumcision No, the point is, if it isn't your body, and there is not medical reason to cut off healthy tissue, then you have no right to do it. Parents do not have the right to trump bodily autonomy and cut off anything they please from their child for pseudoscientific, cultural, or tribal reasons. | /r/MensRights | 13/10/19 04:35 PM |
| 1 | Man speaks up about his involuntary circumcisionKellogg’s cereal company is actually not dr. Kellogg’s, but his brothers company. Dr. Kellogg treated his brother like garbage so if anything supporting the cereal company is almost anti- dr. Kellogg in the fact that they hated each other. So you wouldn’t really be supporting him. | /r/MensRights | 06/10/19 04:13 PM |
| 0 | Woman shares her thoughts on men who speak out about their involuntary circumcisionr/foreskin_restoration You don’t need money, manual exercises are free | /r/MensRights | 04/10/19 12:29 PM |
| 2 | Male circumcision: 'My penis was mutilated'Preaching to the choir my dude | /r/MensRights | 29/05/19 12:59 PM |
| 3 | Male circumcision: 'My penis was mutilated'It comes across as anti Semitic to the people who want to make that claim. It’s not but that’s just the reality of the situation. It needs to be literally any other country first. That’s why they backpedaled on their decision from 2012 because it’s bad PR for Germany to come across as anti Semitic. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/19 12:04 AM |
| 6 | Male circumcision: 'My penis was mutilated'Freedom of religion should not be allowed to supercede human rights. Germany can not be the first country to ban circumcision though. | /r/MensRights | 28/05/19 12:31 PM |
| 5 | Decline in circumcisions costing health care system billions, study findsBetter start cutting out the breasts of children because treating their cancer as adults is more costly than cutting it out of them as a child. If the lack of logic and methodology that was used in this article was used the rest of medicine and brought to the extreme we would be slaughtering every baby being born because it is more cost efficient than a human that could get sick. | /r/MensRights | 26/03/19 01:30 PM |
| 1 | Suicidal over circumcisionIf you visit the links I have provided elsewhere in this thread that will take you to online communities that can help as a support group. If you are looking for one locally you can check out this link, and depending on where you live, may be able to attend a meeting. http://www.norm.org/coord.html | /r/MensRights | 04/03/19 04:27 PM |
| 7 | Suicidal over circumcisionFinished restorers report a huge increase in sensation and it is almost nonexistent that people regret doing it. Time will pass whether you restore or choose not to. There is nothing pathetic about taking things into your own hands (pun intended) and working towards the best solution we have at the moment. The restoring community is not only about the physical act of restoring, but doubles at a support group where you will feel included knowing everyone else has gone or is going through what you… | /r/MensRights | 04/03/19 04:22 PM |
| 1 | Suicidal over circumcisionFollow it up by looking into foreskin reconstruction (you don't have to even want to do it...just contact companies and get more information... I would look into foreskin restoration before reconstruction. Some people who have had reconstruction done wish they had restored instead. There is another surgery in order to attach the skin which can cause more nerve damage and the skin used is not actually inner mucosa or shaft skin so the sensation can vary. | /r/MensRights | 04/03/19 04:15 PM |
| 2 | Suicidal over circumcisionI think if you are going to look into therapy, and you don't want to talk to someone in person, here is your best place to start. https://www.yourwholebaby.org/trauma/ | /r/MensRights | 04/03/19 04:10 PM |
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