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Well obviously you're a scumbag, the only question is what kind? /s I've read a few more of the books on the list, but I got bored about 20 books in. Still, I can't give them too much shit, since I would absolutely judge a woman who said her favourite book was '50 Shades of Grey', 'Twilight' or some Margaret Atwood dreck.
/r/MensRights04/07/14 12:54 AM
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I know them in RL. They really are nuts. They're currently both running for office under Marxist/Leninst platforms. I'm planning on going to the debates to ask awkward questions.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 03:35 PM
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I'll call that a win on our part.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 10:57 PM
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She did minimize the significance based on the gender of the offending parties. That's the problem.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 10:57 PM
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On their ]FB](https://www.facebook.com/events/265748670263117/) they say there will be no filming or photography. It also says they will be broadcasting it live from cfrc.ca
/r/MensRights08/04/14 10:42 PM
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CAFE isn't running the event, but I know some of the people there intend to be recording at all times. Whether or not it gets posted is up to them.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 10:13 PM
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For me this was the worst line in the whole thing: One important reason for this discrepancy is that men are inclined to select work that is dangerous in order to prove their masculinity to women, to other men, and to themselves. It shows a complete lack of empathy and understanding for where many men come from. Yes, my grandfather worked in a coal mine to prove how tough he was, not because he knew he would be shamed if he failed to provide for himself. I know you're not onto part 2 yet, but: […
/r/MensRights26/03/14 03:31 AM
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Somehow point 15 bothers me almost as much. Noah's Ark didn't actually happen! Your point is invalid because the example you're holding up of a skilled amateur is a work of fiction! And not even well-written fiction. There's a counter-joke in there about how men age like wine but women age like milk. But I wouldn't make a joke like that because I'm a classy guy.
/r/MensRights26/03/14 03:09 AM
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Most good self-defence courses do spend a lot of time on avoiding the kinds of situations that would require physical confrontation. Generally you're going to have a hard time fighting off someone bigger than you, who probably has more experience with violence. The best solution is to recognise trouble before it gets that far and proactively avoid it. Now, whether that sort of 'victim blaming' would be allowed on campus is another question.
/r/MensRights21/03/14 08:52 PM
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A month from now: "Ugh, why aren't I making any money giving massages?"
/r/MensRights27/02/14 06:15 AM
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I can see at least one logical inconsistency in her argument. She states "Women alone can give birth to and breast-feed their infants and, as a result, a primary dependency relationship develops between mother and child. While this biological capacity is the only known genetic difference between men and women, it is used as a basis on which to divide unequally women and men's labor, power, roles and expectations." and in her whole essay she is unequally dividing women and men's roles and expecta…
/r/MensRights25/02/14 12:25 AM
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1 and 3 were in the overflow area listening, so kudos to them for that. I doubt they agreed with Karen, but at least they gave her a hearing. Guy #1 is the favourite to win the election.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 02:26 PM
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There was a group outside (I was in the overflow area) but they didn't even get close to the entrance. I wasn't sure at first, but the university's decision to move the talk to the top floor of an empty building was smart.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 06:22 AM
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Yes, although in that case the administration stopped charging it once the protests died down. Their last two events at U of T had no protests at all. Once they realised it was great advertising for CAFE they lost interest. Likely the same will happen at Ryerson. Probably faster. The student unions who help organise these things are incestuous as hell.
/r/MensRights31/01/14 10:59 PM
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They're planning on live streaming it.
/r/MensRights31/01/14 10:13 PM
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There is a requested donation, but no requirement.
/r/MensRights31/01/14 10:13 PM
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We're all pissed about this, but please nobody start spamming the administration. CAFE is trying to talk them down, and it will be easier if they can seem like the measured, mature voice next to the protesters.
/r/MensRights31/01/14 10:12 PM
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"You question whether rape culture is a problem. You're perpetuating it now, Tom. You're a part of it." Questioning rape culture is contributing to rape culture. Let's do a quick check with some of the characteristics of cults The group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader and (whether he is alive or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law. Kinda. Rape culture feminism doesn't really have official leaders. I'll give them a …
/r/MensRights12/12/13 04:27 AM
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That's her? Hah! I remember that story from the campaign, but I didn't connect the dots with this story. That cements it, the senator was definitely snubbing her for being female, not for being an unqualified, spoiled backbench MP who only got her position by the luck of the party leader dying.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 01:29 AM
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Her winning was a fluke. No one expected the NDP to do anywhere near as well as they did in Québec. 23 is really young for a member of parliament. Usually you need things like life experience and an established reputation to have a chance. He accused her of being whiny and useless, and she replies by complaining to an authority figure. Way to go.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 12:53 AM
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It's been a big year. Even though the Warren Farrell event was technically last year, it did kick off a big shift in public awareness. Should be an interesting discussion.
/r/MensRights08/12/13 09:19 PM
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It hits very close to the mark. Tolerance is a fantastic ideal, but like everything, if you take it to an extreme you will get nasty results.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 02:22 PM
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I don't think the science is as settled as he makes it sound, but let's humour him. Ok, voluntary circumcisions on adults are fine. Now can we ban them on involuntary infants and children?
/r/MensRights05/12/13 05:53 AM
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What bugs me about articles like this one is he dismisses or ignores the reasons people don't want to call themselves feminists. "Oh, but that's not what feminism really is! " Then ask yourself why it is such a common viewpoint. Don't give me some hand-waving about internalised misogyny, take some responsibility for the movement you claim to support and have a good hard look at some of the people using its name.
/r/MensRights23/11/13 03:58 PM
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Although this article is specific to Judaism, a lot of it applies to relationships in the West. The same people who are now bemoaning the fact men won't marry were the ones 15 years ago who said women need men like a fish needs a bicycle. You made your bed, now lie in it. Or do you expect those 'useless' men to fix it for you?
/r/MensRights12/11/13 12:52 AM
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I've found similar attitudes out on front lines. The loud-mouth "men have everything perfect" people tend to be the ones who don't actually have any experience in the real world. Those who do council people going through hardship learn very quickly that anybody no matter their race or gender can have serious problems.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 02:38 AM
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That might be illegal. Check your local laws. At minimum, I'm sure a media outlet would be interested in a domestic violence shelter furthering abuse.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 03:11 PM
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Rape is so difficult to prosecute, and such a highly emotional issue that it is smart to avoid it until you have an audience that's already sympathetic. Child custody is a nice easy softball to start with. Only real idealogues will argue that the current state of affairs is actually acceptable. Once that's down you can start with things like workplace deaths, suicide rates, or boys declining performance in schools. False rape accusations suck, but I think the biggest cause of that is the awful p…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 05:14 AM
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Does sterilization take two years and $5000 to learn?
/r/MensRights04/11/13 03:53 AM
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Agreed. That is a much better subject. You can include information about how legal precedent that considers the mother the primary caregiver reinforces gender roles. You can talk about how it makes it more difficult for women to pursue a career if they are expected by the courts to be caregivers. Once you get her on your side and show you're not some nutty rape-apologist (just putting myself in her shoes) then you can get into the touchier subjects. Work into it gradually. Don't go from 0 to 60 …
/r/MensRights04/11/13 03:49 AM
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I thought the whole interview was pretty good. I think Shultz came off as a pandering politician, and Stewart reminded his generally left-wing audience that the Democrats aren't exactly pinnacles of virtue either.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 01:10 AM
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This one is really my favourite: Eating meat is associated with male power in its most vile and repugnant forms. Historically, eating meat has been associated with much needed fat and protein, which gave our brains the needed energy to come up with ideas like the wheel, and taming fire. Civilization: another tool of the patriarchy. Ugh. If you want to talk privilege, how about the privilege of living in a place where refusing food isn't a death sentence?
/r/MensRights25/10/13 05:12 AM
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The Canadian Association for Equality is trying to raise money to open a men's centre. Their main donation site is here. The progress bar on there doesn't include outside sources. They're actually at $45,000 out of their goal of $50,000. You probably know them from the famous Warren Farrell protest video last year, or Big Red from a few months ago.
/r/MensRights25/10/13 04:21 AM
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What annoys me is she completely ignores CAFE, who held a well attended event the night before the rally she mentions, and is actively trying to raise money for a men's centre (they're 90% there too). They don't fit the narrative, so they can be ignored.
/r/MensRights25/10/13 03:47 AM
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I wonder how they define 'violence'? Physical violence? Emotional? Verbal?
/r/MensRights17/10/13 04:31 PM
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Bingo. Any smartphone can be a recording device. Stand alone digital recorders are dirt cheap. If confronted, claim it's for note taking, and so you can listen to yourself and criticise.
/r/MensRights17/10/13 02:06 PM
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It's the official paper of the school of journalism. Every student does a semester there. It's early in the year. I doubt it's a hit piece. They're also taught to get both sides of any story, which is why they're repeating statements from the RSU.
/r/MensRights13/10/13 03:59 PM
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My interpretation is that by demanding special legal protection (quotas, gender specific laws, etc...) and seeing oppression around every corner it keeps women in a diminished capacity, and sends the message that women are less capable than men.
/r/MensRights09/10/13 08:13 PM
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Who ever posted that is right, but I doubt in the way they intended.
/r/MensRights09/10/13 05:09 AM
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Ottawa lawyer Michael Edelson says there is so much nuance to sexual liaisons that men can genuinely mistake signals they receive. Rape apologist! Women go crazy with lust when you ask every step of the seduction whether you can touch them! He's obviously some neck beard virgin. /s
/r/MensRights06/10/13 12:44 AM
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Well cited and we'll argued. It's too bad arguing against something that barbaric is still necessary.
/r/MensRights04/10/13 09:53 PM
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They could still claim coercion or intoxication.
/r/MensRights04/10/13 08:20 PM
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Abortion clinics man. You know they like to fuck. /s
/r/MensRights04/10/13 12:46 PM
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You can donate through the Indiegogo page too and get some swag.
/r/MensRights04/10/13 01:29 AM
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I would have called her more explicitly on the "I said no!" angle, since that is really stupid of her to draw an equivalence between rape and disagreeing about a word. Otherwise you're fine. She is the one in the wrong.
/r/MensRights03/10/13 01:21 PM
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He's been pretty good on this kind of stuff lately. His podcast with Stephan Molyneux talked about issues facing boys in school, and the problems of single parent families. His newest one with Buck Angel (a transman) also talked about social expectations for men. Buck Angel would know better than most about how life as a woman is different than life as a man, having lived as both. ninja edit: the single parent families one actually annoyed my gf a bit (I think it was a reflexive action to their …
/r/MensRights02/10/13 04:02 AM
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It was campus police, not Toronto police.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 09:23 PM
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My point isn't about Christians in general. I have no problem with the majority. They practice their religion, take solace from it, and live their lives. They're not an issue. It's the loud ones demanding that the ten commandments be in front of court houses that everyone remembers.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 04:29 PM
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I think most feminists are feminists the way a lot of Christians are 'cafeteria Christians'. They support it in a warm and fuzzy way, but if you press them on details ("did Noah actually put two of every animal on a boat? ") they back down. The loud, crazy group we see online are the equivalent of creationists.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 04:00 PM
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Supporting it and doing it are different things. I don't blame the university, they're in an impossible situation. If they bill the student union they're in for months of legal hassles that will cost more than the original charge.
/r/MensRights21/09/13 01:31 PM
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It's that or cancel the event. I agree it sucks CAFE has to pay. The problem with charging the groups responsible is they always have plausible deniability. For example, you can prove the student union helped organize the protest. It's a lot harder to prove they told someone to pull the fire alarm.
/r/MensRights21/09/13 01:38 AM
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Check out some of the other talks too. There's one about the unjustness of prisons which makes no mention of men.
/r/MensRights21/09/13 12:11 AM
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It's free advertising. Everyone loves a side show, and nothing makes us look reasonable like those protest videos. I'm amazed they haven’t figured it out.
/r/MensRights20/09/13 08:27 PM
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Or the Hells Angels. ;-) Seriously though, since it is a university the only option is their campus police force. Keeping police off campus has been a thing since the 60's.
/r/MensRights20/09/13 08:13 PM
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Which stage are you at? If you're having trouble email them. I just checked with an organizer and they've taken US donations in the past.
/r/MensRights20/09/13 07:41 PM
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One week today, in Toronto.
/r/MensRights20/09/13 07:14 PM
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Funny thing is, this guy has never even spoken to an MRA. I know him, and he's been very obviously avoiding me since he found out I'm into these issues. Clearly he can't have his view challenged. That might mean he needs to process new information!
/r/MensRights16/09/13 03:59 PM
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I hope it doesn't turn into a side show that becomes more about showing up the crazy feminists.
/r/MensRights14/09/13 10:33 PM
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So HRM is sexist, and if you're willing to repeat what you're told, really frickin' easy. Just circle 'yes' on every single one. That's clearly what they're looking for. Is it sexual harrassment? If you have to ask: yes!
/r/MensRights12/09/13 08:56 PM
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Except only one of those is satire. I was there. That lady was serious.
/r/MensRights08/09/13 09:43 PM
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A lot of the emphasis your opponent will make will be on the empowering nature of the Slutwalk. It being a reminder that clothing or previous behavior does not justify committing crimes against somebody. It's meant to be a reminder that sexual promiscuity does not indicate consent. That women can be just as sexual as men and should not be judged for it. That's a likely angle your opponent will take. There are a few ways to approach it, depending on what you think you can speak on best. I think t…
/r/MensRights08/09/13 09:40 PM
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The Canadian Association for Equality is raising money to open a centre for men and families. There's a matching program on right now for the next $10,000 donated.
/r/MensRights07/09/13 09:54 PM
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MR = having to call the police because people not only ignore your issues but want to actively suppress them. That's what men's rights looks like.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 02:05 AM
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In Toronto after the G20 in 2010 the police had a lot of egg on their face after they made a series of blunders. Since then the aggressive protesters have become bolder. Although I don't like this reporter personally, he does do a good job of covering the whole 'activist' movement in the city. The short version is that the average police officer is reluctant to stick his neck out and arrest somebody because he's worried about the political blowback.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 02:00 AM
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I've had the same debate with friends of mine (male and female). I'm of the opinion the only thing one gets out of a self defense course is a false sense of confidence. It also creates a false impression that 'drag you into an alley' rape is the most common. I've found that point is one feminists find persuasive.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 12:44 PM
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The people pushing for programs that create female only swim times, since the women are not permitted (by their family/culture) to attend when the men do, not the other way around. Personally I think the practice is backward and outdated, but that's the rationale usually provided: women cannot be allowed to swim around men. The reasons supplied for that are misandric (that men can't control themselves around women) but the surface level ban is on women swimming at the same time as men, not vice …
/r/MensRights31/08/13 10:39 PM
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I don't know why you got downvotes. You hit the nail on the head. No company wants their name splashed across the top of a newspaper article saying they're sexist. It's a kiss of death, even if the claim is bullshit.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 10:41 PM
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Now that more girls are getting diagnosed maybe the problem will finally get some attention. I think that the majority of ADHD cases are the result of boring classes, not a medical condition. Hence why 'talk therapy' is as effective as drugs.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 10:36 PM
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CAFE has helped several students get groups going. It helps to be in Canada but it isn't required.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 07:37 PM
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My favourite was when she was saying that employers worry that women might get pregnant and drop out of the workplace. Stossel: "Well, couldn't she? Is the employer foolish?" Burke: "Well, so might he -* ... that's because our culture and society punish women for being mothers" *this is where she realizes that Farrell has been saying for the last 6 minutes that men do not do exactly what she is about to say and changes tack mid-sentence.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 12:56 AM
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That sounds pretty low for a boy getting physically assaulted. I was bullied physically in school more than once and I know I wasn't unusual. I've never been sexually assaulted, but physically, absolutely.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 12:25 AM
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Ah, I misunderstood. The prosecutor deserves his share of blame too. He made no effort to address her claims of abuse, relying instead on a point of law (that duress is not a defence to conspiracy) to win the case.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 12:50 AM
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So just to be clear, you're saying Nicole Doucet was complicit in fabricating evidence that she was not abused by her ex-husband? Even broken clocks are right sometimes, and I think in this case Doucet is the villain, not Ryan. He's far from an angel, but she did try to have him killed. That's the issue here, not how much you trust the RCMP. For clarification: do you believe Doucet was abused by Ryan, and if so does that justify her trying to have him killed when they had not been living togethe…
/r/MensRights20/08/13 12:42 AM
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Well, she did tell the hitman that he didn't abuse her, so is it that unreasonable to believe she said same thing to the RCMP?
/r/MensRights20/08/13 12:37 AM
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Read the report. They gave her multiple opportunities to claim abuse, and she took none of them. Her claim that they did nothing is false.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 12:30 AM
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False. The police did investigate abuse but she repeatedly turned down their help. Here is the full report but I think this is the best summary: "It is my conclusion that the RCMP did not refuse to assist Ms. Doucet; on the contrary, RCMP members were responsive to the family's conflicts," said Mr. McPhail. "I conclude that the RCMP acted reasonably in each of its dealings with Ms. Doucet and her family, and did not fail to protect her." She's going free because the prosecutor didn't bother to d…
/r/MensRights20/08/13 12:21 AM
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Apparently there was insurance or something like that.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 12:18 AM
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Incidently, CAFE is doing a membership drive to raise money for the centre. You do not have to be Canadian to join. Right now there is a matching campaign on so every dollar you send their way counts for two (for the next $10,000). (matching campaign not on the website as of this writing, but should be up soon)
/r/MensRights16/08/13 08:15 PM
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They can't do anything if it's on school grounds (except what they've already done). You don't book space through the student union.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 07:42 PM
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This sums it up. CFS and student unions acting like petty tyrants is so common it would be newsworthy if they didn't.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 07:41 PM
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This sums it up. CFS and student unions acting like petty tyrants is so common it would be newsworthy if they didn't.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 07:40 PM
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I know the Men's Issues club needs more members. UTSU refused to ratify them, but they're still recognised by Student Life.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 07:37 PM
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The ones I have seen are for new mothers, on the reasoning that strollers and diaper bags are a pain to move around with. Still, no reason it can't be 'new parents'.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 06:07 PM
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No. The white ribbon campaign is explicitly to prevent violence by men against women.
/r/MensRights27/07/13 04:56 PM
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female solipsism That is a generalisation: about females. Otherwise it would just have been 'solipsism'
/r/MensRights22/07/13 08:51 PM
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This isn't a CAFE event, although Dr. Brown is an advisor to CAFE and will be giving a similar talk in the fall for CAFE.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 11:10 AM
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I was not aware of this. I hope you're right. I'd like to see the precedent reversed.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 08:37 PM
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The Doucet case is a travesty but double jeopardy would also be unjust.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 01:30 PM
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I'm moderately familiar with this case. The owner was Muslim and said he could not touch a woman. It went to the Human Rights Tribunal, but I don't know what happened to it from there. I do know that being transgendered is now a prohibited ground for discrimination, but that is quite recent. If this isn't your friend, then I'd look into what happened here since it is a pretty clear precedent. I'm coming at this from more of a libertarian point of view than an MR one, but I think the barber is wi…
/r/MensRights04/07/13 01:11 AM
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Based on my cursory research the jury is out on mothers who give birth in prison. In Canada they seem to mostly stay with the mother, which would likely be what the mother would want if she deliberately became pregnant. Remember the vast industry that exists to support women keeping their children no matter what they have done. A woman's prison in BC (the same one I linked above) talked about cancelling their program that allowed babies in the prison and there were editorials like this one that …
/r/MensRights04/07/13 12:57 AM
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I think so, but Justice Farrar apparently doesn't. It would raise a thorny legal question of what to do with an infant if its mother is in prison and the father is unwilling to take care of it but avoiding a tough question isn't a good enough reason to create a sexist definition of assault.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 06:30 PM
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Justice Farrar has made questionable rulings in the past as well. He was the dissenting voice in a ruling that stated a man was guilty of sexual assault for poking holes in a condom. The reason? It might set a precedent for a woman to be charged for the exact same thing. He's on the Supreme Court of Nova Scotia now.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 05:27 PM
4

Scouts Canada has been doing this for years. It hasn't had a negative impact yet. They're very strict about never having a leader alone with kids, so there are typically not problems with accusations, and if there are they are handled carefully.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 05:43 PM
1

Maybe someone on the federal level? The NB law society must have a process, the question is whether it's adequate for the job.
/r/MensRights24/06/13 08:57 PM
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In theory it means that you should try to be conscious of advantages you may have due to your gender, race, etc... before commenting on the experience of another person. For example, a person whose family has connections and was able to get a job at the family law firm fresh out of law school talking about the value of hard work. In practice it is a means of shutting down people who challenge your views by suggesting that white people / men shit rainbows and therefore don't know what it's like t…
/r/MensRights24/06/13 01:02 AM
2

To me, this is the worst part of the whole show. Unquestioningly accepting the claim of domestic violence, despite no prior evidence? That's bad. Accepting a claim of duress, which requires imminent danger to be valid? Also bad. The final judgement saying "yeah, she is guilty, but she's learned her lesson". That's the worst, most sexist part.
/r/MensRights24/06/13 12:52 AM
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I read the sections in question with my girlfriend. She didn't like some of the language but overall said the advice wasn't bad. Apparently for some people the only way to proceed to sex is to stop and negotiate every time I move my hand. The whole thing was a bunch of people on the Internet looking for something to get worked up over.
/r/MensRights24/06/13 12:39 AM
9

"Explain female bodybuilders" They take testosterone you dumb shit.
/r/MensRights23/06/13 02:12 PM
8

More accurately, the Crown didn’t call him to the stand since their case rested on premeditated murder not qualifying as 'duress'. It's still bad her DV claim was accepted unquestioningly. If that we're disproved, her whole claim of duress and imminent danger goes out the windows
/r/MensRights22/06/13 06:45 PM
4

She may be showing how well she knows her readership in doing that. We've seen how some of them react when their assumptions are questioned.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 08:57 PM
7

This guy is worst kind of victim glorifying sycophantic loser. He's a multi-time failed political candidate and owns a used book store in 2013. He's so caught up in Marxist class delusions that he can't see what's going on in front of his face. What a sad human being.
/r/MensRights16/06/13 02:29 PM
10

I wonder if who he'll blame when his son(s) fall behind his daughter(s) in school. Patriarchy probably.
/r/MensRights16/06/13 01:51 PM
2

Student unions are trying, but no one (including students and staff) take them seriously. CAFE has said they were in touch with the university administration and they are fine with their events.
/r/MensRights12/06/13 09:03 PM
2

Is she going to listen or to protest?
/r/MensRights12/06/13 05:08 PM
2

This is a cafe event, which is not a campus group. The other events were put on by a campus group that cafe sponsors. I've had no indication that UofT declined to host, I think they were never asked.
/r/MensRights12/06/13 05:07 PM
5

Probably not. In the majority of cases women aren't the problem. Being gay would solve some issues for me (like worrying about custody) but possibly introduce others. It would do nothing to address my main issue, which is the declining academic performance of boys.
/r/MensRights12/06/13 11:44 AM
3

It's happening today.
/r/MensRights12/06/13 11:20 AM
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Glad to see this. There has been a schism in the skeptic/atheist community over this kind of thing. There are plenty of people who don't bother with it anymore because of this (including me). I know CFI has lost good people too. Seeing a concerted effort to neutralise the irrational wing of the skeptic community is very welcome. Maybe they can do r/atheism next...
/r/MensRights06/06/13 02:25 AM
10

Because that doesn't "center the voices of women" to use the words of a CFS student union.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 11:36 PM
4

Luckily this won't be running through U of T; it isn't a campus based initiative. They can still try of course, but having to interact with the real world will put a damper on what they're capable of doing. For example, being able to bring in real police if they decide to protest.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 11:55 PM
3

I'm making some comments on the doc. PM me if you can't see them.
/r/MensRights23/05/13 05:13 PM
5

One of the biggest challenges we're facing as men is that there are so many people trying to define it for us. The role of men has changed significantly in the last century and everyone has an opinion on what it ought to be. The only ones being shut out of the discussion are men themselves. I love seeing discussions like this since it allows us a forum to talk about it without (hopefully) getting hijacked by those with a vested interest in the status quo. Even PUA stuff, which I don't have much …
/r/MensRights22/05/13 04:15 PM
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I've criticized Elam in the past for some of what he's written, but this is gold. I think a big problem men face is fighting to define themselves versus having someone define them. The message Paul is delivering here is one we're going to have to repeat over and over again for it to sink in.
/r/MensRights22/05/13 02:37 AM
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That's where I want more information. It's explained to us that he was approved to talk about the sexism in feminism. Maybe he just told the teacher he wanted to talk about feminism. That doesn't excuse the teacher in the slightest, but it might explain a knee jerk reaction. As for detention for asking her to approve the cartoon, I can't see the administration having an explanation for that.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 04:59 PM
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I need more details to form a proper opinion, but unless you were being deliberately offensive (which doesn't seem to be the case) then I think you should appeal to who ever you can. Principal? Superintendent? If it was an approved topic I don't see what reasonable grounds they would have to get you in trouble. As a point of presentation, if those were your PowerPoint slides there is way too much text.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 04:41 PM
19

Please oh please get in front of a judge while under oath. That could be the best thing for the MRM you ever do.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 09:49 PM
75

I'll have to keep an eye on this site. This is the second article that I know of where they've given men's issues a fair shake. After a sexual assault against a man in Toronto they did a collection of the worst tweets about it.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 01:32 PM
6

Dark, cold, sick and hungry?
/r/MensRights22/04/13 04:47 PM
1

You're disagreeing with the hive mind. I think your interpretation of 'forced' is the right one. When considering starting a family, a person (male or female) is forced to choose between the child and their career. In recent times it has been women facing more angst about this choice, since many want to have both and are realising that isn't possible. Staying home hasn't been a male option, so they don't have the same conflict. I think a lot of people in this sub are getting just as sensitive an…
/r/MensRights22/04/13 04:46 PM
1

I'm no feminist, I just think AVfM's strategy of giving them what they want is counterproductive.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 01:02 PM
1

Exactly. So why give them something to push against?
/r/MensRights21/04/13 11:03 PM
1

I think their whole group came off badly enough that the best thing we can do is give them enough rope to hang themselves with. Now this guy will be able to claim (falsely or not) that he was targeted, allowing them to keep doing what they do best, which is play the victim. The thing that will be the end of the UTSU is marginalisation. Writing articles like that only gives them more exposure and inflates their importance.
/r/MensRights21/04/13 09:57 PM
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"Are you worried you'll be targeted?" "Yes" AVFM response? Target him. Brilliant move.
/r/MensRights21/04/13 09:11 PM
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It's definitely true that having a rape fantasy is not the same as wanting to be raped. No argument there. My point is that insisting clear verbal consent every single step of the way is totally unrealistic when you take into account the dating dance.
/r/MensRights20/04/13 11:58 AM
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Bingo. This is if you go all the way through, which many do not since their chances of winning are so small.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 05:34 PM
1

This is from Canada.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 05:33 PM
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So young men are expected to jive this with the fact "Fifty Shades of Grey" is a #1 best seller.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 05:29 PM
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I think our issues came out well in that. We stuck to the main points, and didn't get drawn into any distracting fights. There were clearly some people there who wanted to make it into a "misogynist vs. feminist" narrative and nobody let them. Kudos to all concerned.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 03:30 AM
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This guys other articles include: learning astral projection and giving his [girlfriend acid at an amusement park.] (http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/canadas-wonderland-on-acid) Without a doubt, he is Edward R. Murrow's successor. I say we shrug and move on. "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
/r/MensRights18/04/13 03:21 AM
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This is better than we could have hoped for. We don't need to discredit them. They're doing it all themselves.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 08:55 PM
1

No, boys are killing each other.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 12:27 PM
1

Agreed. The purpose of it was to name and shame, but it's become pretty much the only thing the protesters can use to claim victim status. We would be well served if it were taken down.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 12:25 PM
2

I was not aware that was an option. Thanks!
/r/MensRights16/04/13 11:02 PM
2

Yeah, I'm a little disappointed it's getting downvoted. I think I could have picked a better title.
/r/MensRights16/04/13 10:28 PM
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Apparently they accidentally put up a draft article and then replaced it with this one which is less balanced.
/r/MensRights16/04/13 12:33 AM
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I think the one reason is that it's hard to build a story when one side is completely incoherent. Even if you're spot on, you get accused of favouring the side that makes sense. Sometimes I wonder if it isn't a deliberate tactic on the part of the protesters to make the story unappealing. Then I wonder if I'm giving them too much credit.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 04:09 AM
1

You're making your own sandwiches? I think that's a level 2 infraction.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 09:48 PM
2

It also shows that they don't really understand what a 'townhall' is. Generally speaking those are open to anybody. How you can 'infiltrate' something accessible to the general public is beyond me.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 11:24 AM
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Same city where CAFE was recently protested for an event about misandry. Curious.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 11:56 PM
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Ok, brief rundown because it's late and I'm tired. Protesters started outside. Not long after the talk started they entered the hall outside the room and started making lots of noise. Banging on the doors, using a megaphone, that kind of thing. This went on for about 10 minutes. Then someone pulled a fire alarm. Here is a live blog from a student journalist
/r/MensRights05/04/13 02:53 AM
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You would think so, but most of them are involved in a number of 'social justice' causes and the groups are so insular and close-minded that legitimate questioning (never mind criticism) never reaches them. The same groups have done things like 'occupy cityhall' and were also involved in some of the violent protests at the g20.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 07:24 PM
1

And notice the previous article at the bottom: 'Transgender women 49 times more likely to have HIV'. Such great allies.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 02:10 AM
2

Well put. The article is in the same category as shaming female feminists for being 'butch dykes'. Not something I want to be associated with.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 02:05 AM
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Most student governments in Canada are members of the CFS, and the executives of those governments are often financially supported by them when they run for office. As for how much authority they have to enforce it, I'm not sure. They could threaten to kick out a student union who violates the policy, but they probably won't since it means less revenue. Tl;Dr some authority, but it's mostly symbolic
/r/MensRights03/04/13 09:35 PM
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The admin are completely separate from the union, much the way a business is separate from their employees union. They have traditionally been very reluctant to involve themselves in what the union does.
/r/MensRights03/04/13 12:28 PM
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They have been.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 06:57 PM
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He was acting as a representative of the student union at an event put on by the student union.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 03:10 PM
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Title has nothing to do with the content. Tumblr is a well known source of bullshit. Two reasons to downvote this post.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 05:21 AM
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Studio Brule is what got CAFE the media attention. Scum girl was just a participant. There were plenty of other lunatics that night who would have gotten attention. Putting a journalist 'on notice' before she does anything is a problem. If she fucks up: hold her feet to the fire, you'll get no argument from me. Until she proves herself to be against men, she should be treated as neutral at a minimum. Anything less is exactly the kind of adversarial approach many here condemn feminists for having…
/r/MensRights02/04/13 04:26 AM
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I'm in the same boat. Same thing with posting the interview right away instead of waiting to see what the article looks like. If she wrote a crap article and then he posted the interview I could see the case for it, but preemptively doing so is problematic.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 02:01 AM
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Wow. It's a feminist manhood academy.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 10:49 AM
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It's a great reply. I think pointing out the financial incentives that 'professional feminists' have to keep finding new problems is a good way to bring around some of the more left-wing people, who tend to be underrepresented in the MHRA community.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 07:49 PM
1

Some of the details vary by province, IRC but it would be a great book to put together. I know of two groups who would be interested in helping you: Fathers Resources and the Canadian Association for Equality. They may not be able to help with funding, but in terms of getting you in touch with the right people to get you going they're both great resources.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 11:58 PM
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I really hope they do something. The video from the Warren Farrell event was fantastic publicity for our cause.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 02:52 PM
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Here at the patriarchy rehabilitation centre, we will make sure that your exposure to men expressing themselves is limited to the acceptable range of male emotion. That is: regret, remorse, recrimination, and refeminisation. That MOE (male of colour) should have known better than to exert his privilege over a woman as powerful as Amy Poehler. Please be assured that he will be appropriately re-educated. To counteract these sort of male uprisings we're organizing protests around issues that affect…
/r/MensRights26/03/13 04:37 AM
3

Talk about selection bias. They teach this in every statistics 101 course: correlation does not equal causation. It could be that those companies with a culture that is meritocratic are more likely to promote the best person for the job, regardless of gender, thus putting more women on the board. This also explains the results without casting one gender as superior to the other or requiring any pseudoscientific explanations like "men are pack animals" or "women are better at complex decision mak…
/r/MensRights25/03/13 07:55 PM
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This person is mentally ill. She should be removed from any positions of authority and sent to a nice quiet home in the country.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 07:04 PM
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I agree that student unions are a minor issue, but it is very unlikely they will be unseated next year. Voter turnout is incredibly low (5-10%) and the Canadian Federation of Students sponsors their slate, almost ensuring a win. Student unions are pretty messed up in Canada, not just in relation to men's issues.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 02:23 PM
2

I like the emphasis on using the real meaning of words. So often I feel like they're speaking another language and I don't think it's an accident.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 11:51 PM
2

Couldn't you say the same thing about the author of the article? By putting some of the blame on all boys and men she diminishes the culpability of the men who did commit the rape.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 09:48 PM
2

The Canadian Association for Equality does a fair bit on campuses and has media experience. You could reach out to them.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 11:55 AM
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CAFE does a lot of media work on those kinds of issues. They're based in Toronto, and don't use the MRA label, but I'm sure they'd love to talk to you.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 01:10 AM
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The main student union already condemned them, and the Vice Provost did nothing. It's toothless.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 10:42 PM
4

Damnit - typo: Anti = Anita
/r/MensRights11/03/13 04:53 AM
2

There's a big difference between making a public pass at somebody and a saucy joke among coworkers. I think a lot of the current discourse doesn't appreciate that. The comment I pulled out certainly didn't. The authors point is that current attitudes have no appreciation of nuance, or that so much sexual communication is non-verbal. Looking at the tone of the comments, I agree with him.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 10:17 PM
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I get his argument. I think by focusing on the pick-up side of things, he should have focused more on criticizing the bullshit excesses you see, especially in academic environments, and how that will get you harshly mobbed. See: rape culture Worst comment: ""What if the lady coworker likes it?" --> common-sense rape culture distilled into one sentence. "Liking it" or whatever you mean by that DOESN'T make it any less horrifying Actually, liking it makes it significantly less horrifying. Liking i…
/r/MensRights08/03/13 06:31 PM
1

This guy is a nobody. He also doesn't go to university. He's a used book store owner and failed Marxist political candidate. He confuses longwindedness with rigour and sees absence of evidence of a conspiracy as evidence of a conspiracy.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 09:24 PM
1

What school do you go to? If you're in North America, CAFE would be happy to help. They're the ones helping Ryerson.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 09:08 PM
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Check out Paul Nathanson's books. He has written a trilogy on misandry. I'm certain you'll find something useful in there Edit: he is Canadian, based out of McGill university
/r/MensRights06/03/13 11:36 PM
3

Trust is obviously a big part of the equation. It is emphatically not a guarantee, but you have to ask yourself why she is so insistent on marriage. It could be because she wants to put in her time to create a good divorce settlement, it could be because she has been taught that that's what you're supposed to do once you've been dating this long, or it could be because she's a romantic who adores the idea of publicly declaring your mutual love. These sentiments can all change with time, so don't…
/r/MensRights25/02/13 07:02 AM
2

The statistics are wrong, but at least their heart is in the right place. One step at a time.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 06:52 AM
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Some main areas to look at: Boys crisis (academic performance, suicide rates, "failure to launch") Family law system (unequal custody/access judgements, punitive support costs, debtors prisons) Men's health (suicide rates, workplace deaths, generally higher mortality) This is far from a definitive guide, but I think they are three big areas that are ripe with material.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 06:51 AM
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They did. Go here to Amazon, go to 'Look Inside' and search for 'exciting'. You will find the context for the statement. I also have this that he wrote not long after the protest: The context of the date rape quote is a chapter in which Dr. Warren Farrell writes that the politics of rape is hurting our ability to prevent rape and especially to prevent date rape. With two daughters himself, he opens the chapter by asking readers to, "Imagine your daughter. You know that date rape is a legitimate …
/r/MensRights25/02/13 06:43 AM
1

Cafe doesn't necessarily endorse all the positions of their speakers. The goal is to get people who will get discussion going and motivate debate.
/r/MensRights23/02/13 02:48 AM
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Text reads: "Janice Fiamengo is currently the main organizer behind a movement to ban the building of mosques in Ottawa."
/r/MensRights22/02/13 10:23 PM
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I think he did a good job representing our issues in a positive way. Good for him, and I hope we see him on reddit again.
/r/MensRights20/02/13 04:25 AM
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I missed the original post. The Canadian Association for Equality is very interested in helping campus groups get started. They've already helped out several in Ontario, and are working on several more across the country.
/r/MensRights14/02/13 01:14 PM
1

What university? CAFE is big on campus groups and debate.
/r/MensRights13/02/13 06:48 PM
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I've volunteered for this program. It's pretty good. My only criticism would be that it is quite short (7 weeks). You just start to get rapport with the kids and then the program is over.
/r/MensRights04/02/13 03:33 PM
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A great example of how improving men's lives improves the lives of others. It would be nice if so many of those men weren't in prison (want to take bets on how many are drug arrests?), but at least the horrible impact of it is mitigated somewhat here. Also: think how good this will look when they get assessed for custody once they get out. A letter from the warden saying he has done his best to remain an engaged father? A letter from a teacher saying the dance was all his daughter talked about? …
/r/MensRights04/02/13 01:03 AM
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In order to provide 'balance' they have to include the protesters speaking, which they did not do well. I believe it was a deliberate strategy on their part to minimize news coverage. The people blocking the doors are experienced shit-disturbers.
/r/MensRights01/02/13 02:24 PM
2

I was at the event and spoke to some of the reporters. A big part of the problem was that the protesters didn't have a coherent thing they were protesting, so the news agencies had a hard time putting together a story.
/r/MensRights01/02/13 01:45 PM
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That's pretty much it. I would only add that most of us know what it's like to have a genuine, heartfelt comment downvoted into oblivion because 'it doesn't fit the narrative' so we try to avoid doing it to others.
/r/MensRights31/01/13 10:23 PM
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See, this is the kind of thing I would write if I were a smarter person. This is gold. From the 1600’s until the 1950’s, ADHD, Conduct Disorder, and Oppositional Defiance Disorder did not exist in America (Baughman, 2006). In the past, psychiatric disorders were extremely rare in young children as childhood and adolescence were collectively understood to be unique and short- lived developmental stages that would pass with coming maturity (Stolzer, 2010). Across all human cultures, infancy, early…
/r/MensRights30/01/13 04:22 AM
3

It is definitely an injustice. I'd be willing to discuss some kind of short-term alimony in certain circumstances, but just like collecting unemployment, if you leave the job you had best have a good reason if you want us to help you out. If you want equality, you have to be opposed to this kind of disparity. Treating a woman like she is permantently incapable of taking care of herself because she couldn't keep a husband is not the kind of attitude I expect to see in civilized countries. Edit: T…
/r/MensRights29/01/13 05:36 AM
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I've definitely noticed differences in parenting styles between the sexes. I'm very glad this article took a good stance and focused on the positives. There are mothers in my community who try to claim I'm negligent if I let my kid (or friends he's with) go off and do things without me, or if I refuse to help them complete a basic task. One if particular has stopped bringing it up since I usually reply my kid is much better behaved than hers, can make his own sandwiches and gets better grades (t…
/r/MensRights25/01/13 02:07 PM
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The appropriate person to email would be the Vice Provost, not the president. The UofT administration has very little control over the UTSU. They do collect student fees on their behalf, so if they can be shown to have violated their own bylaws then they can stop funding them, but this isn't the first time the UTSU has done something flagrantly anti-freedom. A couple years ago they shut down some pro-life clubs using similar arguments. U of T didn't do anything about it, and I doubt they will he…
/r/MensRights24/01/13 01:55 PM
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Sandhu is the one saying "they promote incest, violence against women, etc...". She's past president of the UTSU and a perfect example of the kind of petty tyrants you get in student government. The University of Toronto proper makes an effort to distance themselves. (technically UTSU isn't a part of the university)
/r/MensRights24/01/13 01:51 PM
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I don't really think so. You can be an atheist and a small minded jerk, but it isn't a requirement. Ditto with feminism.
/r/MensRights22/01/13 03:37 PM
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/r/atheism is pretty bad for being a circlejerk. For people who claim the answer is impossible to prove they seem pretty damn sure. I'm an atheist myself but I can't stand people who simply taunt the other side of a debate, and that sub does that constantly.
/r/MensRights22/01/13 12:38 PM
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You can do it in kind of a sneaky way. For example, China is one of the very rare countries where the female suicide rate is higher than the male one, at least in the rural areas. You're bringing up a male issue (high suicide rate) but keeping it female focused in a way that might keep their interest. If you want to go deeper, I'd be curious to see if GDP has any correlation to the suicide gap.
/r/MensRights21/01/13 06:20 PM
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"Dear god, just tell me what to say! " I think every proto-MRA has felt that way at some point.
/r/MensRights16/01/13 12:51 PM
3

I was just thinking that. Even if we assume the allegation is true (a big assumption IMO), the fact that there is international attention on this and there were attempts to extradite him that required he claim political asylum shows how seriously they are treating it. They're doing the work for us discrediting themselves.
/r/MensRights15/01/13 09:49 PM
2

A win is a win. I'll take it. Good on 'em.
/r/MensRights15/01/13 03:00 PM
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Is there a way to get a restraining order or some other similar kind of judgement? She could be held in contempt of court for disobeying the order not to call, although that will be difficult to prove. It really sucks you're going through this, but it sounds like the worst is past. You have judgements in your favour now, and that counts for quite a bit.
/r/MensRights15/01/13 02:00 PM
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The childishness of the opposition continues to amaze me.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 07:31 PM
4

Sadly consistent behaviour for the opposition. When you can't beat 'em, scream hate speech.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 01:56 PM
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WTF? This person is mental. I doubt any serious feminist, even the ones we don't like, would agree that eating at Starbucks somehow promotes or advances women's issues. I think more than anything, this shows how diluted the word 'feminism' has become.
/r/MensRights12/01/13 06:01 PM
2

The Canadian Association for Equality has a research team that is always looking for people. They're based in Toronto, but don't let that stop you if you're elsewhere.
/r/MensRights12/01/13 05:51 PM
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That's kinda my point. If I were a neutral observer, or someone who leaned feminist because it was the default position and my first exposure to men's issues was Paul Elam I would be hesitant to have a second. AVfM has been producing better articles lately IMHO, but the content can still be off-putting. As I said in my first comment, I am a bit conflicted as to how I feel about them. On the one hand they are getting press, which is more than most groups have managed to do. On the other hand, a l…
/r/MensRights09/01/13 12:32 AM
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I'm the the same sort of boat. AVFM is good at grabbing attention, but their style puts off people who would otherwise be interested in talking. On the other hand, it could be argued that Martin Luther King wouldn't have received the same amount of attention if Malcolm X hadn't made him look like the moderate choice.
/r/MensRights08/01/13 11:24 PM
2

I think he means it more generally than that. It is an unfortunate fact that men do kill more people. Killing sprees by women are much rarer. Maybe part of the reason is that women are more likely to seek help for mental issues.
/r/MensRights07/01/13 07:37 PM
6

CAFE, the group that put on the Warren Farrell event you mentioned in your post is based in Toronto. We mainly do educational events, and we're always looking for volunteers in whatever capacity you would like.
/r/MensRights05/01/13 03:46 PM
3

Misandry Bubble is a long read, but it does go into the subject in many angles. It focuses more on the cultural and social consequences of anti-male attitudes than specific things like false rape claims or family law, but the author does touch on many MRA causes while building his case that misandry hurts everybody.
/r/MensRights03/01/13 05:22 AM
8

How is this about men's rights? Women like older guys. This is not news, or exclusive to China.
/r/MensRights30/12/12 03:21 PM
6

This really tells me that 'patriarchy' has no explanatory power. If it can mean anything, then it is meaningless. Maybe we should stop using that term. Gender attitudes are the problem in all the cases this person cites. The great thing about a term like 'gender attitudes' is it explains the problem and offers suggestions on how we might fix it. Citing 'patriarchy' does neither of those things.
/r/MensRights29/12/12 02:32 PM
12

No, it doesn't. Domestic violence rates are roughly equal. In terms of violence in general, men are more likely to be assaulted, although women report fearing assault more.
/r/MensRights26/12/12 01:26 PM
6

Now or 60 years ago? Jews did dominate basketball at one time. And of course, writers made assumptions about group membership then too: basketball ppeals to the Hebrew with his Oriental background [because] the game places a premium on an alert, scheming mind and flashy trickiness, artful dodging and general smartalecness. In any case, I'm writing specifically about legal discrimination, not what a private organization does.
/r/MensRights26/12/12 12:40 PM
6

Learning about men's issues can be very surprising. Some people refer to a 'red pill' moment, like in the Matrix. If you're in high school now you might not know about that great movie. What seems like a growing trend of making laws about feelings (e.g. offending people, very broad definitions of harrassment) makes me nervous for reasons that have nothing to do with men's issues. If you can't have a reasonable expecation to be aware you are breaking a law when you do something, that is a bad law…
/r/MensRights26/12/12 03:56 AM
42

I think you need to check your premise. The idea that men are more violent has roughly the same level of truth as the idea that women are more nuturing. You can easily find examples for both, but when it comes to the treatment of an individual, especially in a court of law, you cannot make assumptions about them based on group membership. An individual man may or may not be more violent than average, and giving him a longer sentence than a woman because his gender is more likely to be violent di…
/r/MensRights26/12/12 01:42 AM
30

Incomplete, biased, and unwilling to listen to criticism.
/r/MensRights24/12/12 08:57 PM
9

I think the main reason is because the men reflexively protect the woman rather than focusing on the mission. Is that social conditioning or genetic? I lean towards genetic, but I don't think there is any solid evidence either way.
/r/MensRights24/12/12 08:47 PM
1

If you have the same qualifications and the same work history as a man, a women should get the same money if she is just as able as the man is. Agreed. And in a situation without discrimination, that would be true, which makes the proposed law pointless. Where it gets interesting is what the effect of that law would be if there was discrimination. It would externalize the cost of that discrimination by mandating that the women I don't want to hire cost the exact same as the men I do want to hire…
/r/MensRights24/12/12 04:54 PM
2

Friedman is saying there should not be a law requiring that women recieve the same pay for the same work. That's very different than saying women shouldn't ask for the same pay. As I understand Friedman, he is saying that if a business is legally required to pay the same amount to someone whether they are well qualified or not, of course they will go for the better qualified person. If that person is a woman, then the law serves no purpose. If the worse qualified person is a woman, then the busi…
/r/MensRights24/12/12 04:18 PM
2

Keep in mind their different backgrounds. Farrell comes from the social sciences while Friedman was an economist. This is going to change how they respond to the same question. Also, they were talking about different things. Farrell talked about why men earn more, while Friedman was discussing a specific law mandating equal pay.
/r/MensRights24/12/12 01:02 AM
3

What the fuck did I just watch?
/r/MensRights21/12/12 04:02 PM
15

He should call police before she does. It is possible they will treat it as a domestic dispute and arrest him, but it will be worse if she calls them.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 01:15 PM
8

Very good find! I've finished part one, going to start part two when dinner is out of the oven. I have seen research and studies about this but this is the first solid presentation I've seen on the subject.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 11:11 PM
3

I'm kinda surprised they didn't contact CAFE. They're the ones who organized the actual event. Warren Farrell would probably also get back to them. Edit: You know, if they were writing a proper article and all.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 10:48 PM
9

But who puts them there? More women vote than men. That ambiguity is the kind of thing I'm talking about when I say I have problems with the term patriarchy. If the 'patriarchs' actually favour women in the laws they create, is 'patriarchy' a meaningful term when you talk about creating a more equalitarian society? Does it tell us anything useful about our situation? More and more I'm thinking it doesn't.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 08:32 PM
14

Then does calling it 'patriarchy' really make sense? Maybe it's just society, or social norms or something like that. One of my problems with the word 'patriarchy' is it implies blame on men. The problem is not with eiher gender, but how many people expect them to behave.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 06:51 PM
4

I'm curious to see how this goes. There seem to be some good definitions, along with the usual loud radicals on both sides.
/r/MensRights17/12/12 07:53 PM
2

I smiled. You're right. If you don't laugh at these people you end up horribly depressed, and that's more energy than they're worth.
/r/MensRights17/12/12 03:49 AM
3

We really should be using it as an opportunity to talk about how male mental health is so commonly swept under the rug. People knee this kid had problems since he was five. Why did nobody do anything?
/r/MensRights16/12/12 02:43 PM
3

and culture.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 04:37 PM
9

He also ran for provincial parliament as a Marxist.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 04:05 PM
26

You'll notice he has disabled comments. Wouldn't want anybody posting a video of how the protesters he's defending behaved.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 04:04 PM
8

I think these are pretty good. They're gender neutral, and they encourage people to communicate. The font is ugly as sin, but the message is good.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 03:20 PM
1

I actually think these ones are a bit more subtle than that. They say "consent is an ongoing conversation". That allows for more personal responsibility. After all, body language is a huge part of conversation. Also, although they likely didn't intend this, it does imply that consent can't be withdrawn without some kind of conversation, which addresses a common MR argument that some women report regret as rape.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 03:18 PM
2

There are definitely criticisms to be made of the world of psychology, especially the problem that they tend to assume you're 'broken' if you have experienced abuse. That may do more harm than the abuse itself. That doesn't change the fact that men have a significantly higher rate of suicide than women, and that historically men have not been as good at asking for help as women. My sense is those things are inter-related. The mechanism we have right now is far from perfect, but it's better than …
/r/MensRights14/12/12 02:29 PM
5

Deliberately misrepresenting someones argument to make it seem weaker than it is. For example, if I were to say date rape statistics are inflated, someone would be setting up a straw man if they said I was a rape apologist. That would also count as an ad hominem (personal attack) but that isn't a necessary for something to be a straw man. More detail
/r/MensRights13/12/12 11:36 PM
191

That might just be the biggest strawman I have ever seen.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 06:18 PM
6

They've basically re-invented the slave trade. If you have no morals, it's really very clever.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 02:23 PM
1

I was more glad that male mental health was getting some attention. That's rare enough. The poster mentions men as well as boys, so I don't really see it as promoting pedo fear.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 11:04 PM
1

I know, but it's still in our forum. I think there is an understanding that trolls exist, but our opposition is significant so they don't want to expose themselves to any criticism. I think it's the best we could have hoped for under the circumstances.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 10:33 PM
7

Basically the provost doesn't pro actively go after people. If somebody complains that they were harassed then they look into it, but they do not do anything absent a complaint by the person who was harassed.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 07:16 PM
21

Some of the people commenting on stories afterwards have been. In this thread alone there is somebody calling for "curb stomping" people who disrupted the event. I do like that they singled out the people blocking the doors. CAFE just had a meeting with the provost a few hours ago. Expect a statement on their website sometime today. Edit: the "curb stomping" comment has since been deleted
/r/MensRights12/12/12 06:06 PM
4

Or to bar surgeons from operating. If someone is legally incompetent they definitely shouldn't be doing that. Somehow I have a feeling that who ever came up with PMS as a defense didn't think it all the way through.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 12:33 PM
3

The rape culture thing specifically? Here is a shorter version with just the important bits. The whole hour long version is here
/r/MensRights11/12/12 05:04 PM
3

The AIDS show wasn't his greatest in my opinion. There was another person on as well (Brian Callahan I think, but don't quote me) who seemed a bit more knowledgable about AIDS than Joe is. It mostly revolved around Joe and Brian asking questions and Duesberg avoiding them. The main killer question was "if this is right, why is nobody else in the medical world listening?" Duesberg tried to claim it was all about the money, but Joe was very skeptical that everybody in the medical community would b…
/r/MensRights11/12/12 05:02 PM
4

More and more I'm seeing the issues are incredibly intertwined. I think there are many women that realize this very quickly once you point it out, it's just that most of those women aren't found on university campuses. There it's considered better form to shout down anybody who tries to question you.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 04:33 AM
5

Good for this guy. I think he's displaying a tremendous amount of character.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 04:30 AM
7

I've been kinda waning on Rogan lately, partly because my schedule isn't good for 3-hour podcasts right now, but I would make a point to listen to this one.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 04:26 AM
13

I dunno, Joe is usually a pretty good interviewer. He's usually very polite about it, but he does call people on bullshit. For example, I thought he handled the AIDS guy awhile ago pretty well. I got the impression Joe decided the guy was full of shit not too far into the show, but he let the guy talk. He got worked up at Kilstein I think more because he refused to see the difference between a joke and an actual threat of rape. Joe is a lot more passionate about comedy than he is about gender is…
/r/MensRights11/12/12 04:24 AM
4

I couldn't help but think of the protests in Toronto when I saw this. They never specifically mention feminism, but I think a lot of what they say about the academic environment is true.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 04:14 AM
5

More options is always good. My main questions would be around reliability and safety. A reliable male pill or easily reversible vasectomy are still high on my "most wanted" list.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 08:08 PM
2

It's true. The result is very sad, but comedians are often the ones to point out social problems to a broad audience. There's a Free Range kids movement that is trying to change these kinds of "worst first" attitudes. They're more general than pedo paranoia, but they do mention it from time to time.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 12:34 AM
-1

If it were someone in a position of authority I could see a strategic reason to do it. This seems spiteful
/r/MensRights09/12/12 09:06 PM
-2

Wow. You unmasked a hateful university student who has zero effect on our lives. Way to make her seem much more important than she is.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 05:50 PM
2

That's a great segment. I'm glad we're getting some positive attention. Edit: I don't like that Coren cut him off when he tried to talk about boys, but I do understand they have time constraints and angry people make for better TV.
/r/MensRights07/12/12 02:15 PM
2

That's low. I made no secret of the fact I disagree with his doxxing of people, but I don't think he deserves a ban for it. Par for the course when it comes to dealing with radicals like JtO saw in Vancouver, and CAFE saw in Toronto. The good news is it means they're scared. The bad news is they will probably try and escalate from here.
/r/MensRights07/12/12 01:42 PM
29

The UofT student union elections are a joke. The ticket supported by the Canadian Federation of Students wins every year without fail. This is the same CFS that passed an emergency motion last week condeming men's rights groups as mysogynistic.
/r/MensRights06/12/12 11:24 PM
4

I'm one of the organizers for the Warren Farrell event. I drove him around for his media interviews, and dealt with campus security during the event. I'm not speaking as CAFE right now, just myself, but I know many of our members share my opinion.
/r/MensRights06/12/12 12:09 PM
3

It is going to be talked about, but we don't want it to eclipse the bigger message about the boys crisis. That's what we brought him up for, not to piss off some over-educated activists.
/r/MensRights06/12/12 02:45 AM
4

Our greatest strength right now is that we appear reasonable and they do not. We can't throw that away.
/r/MensRights06/12/12 02:45 AM
6

I upvoted not because I necessarily agree, but because I think it's a very valid thing to talk about. I'll say, and I think my posting history will back me up, that I'm closer to an option 4 person than an option 5. I spent time this afternoon arguing against an option 5 response to intimidation at the Warren Farrell event. That said, I think the options you give are missing a vital component. There is a big grey area between options 4 and 5. Part of what we are doing is a PR game. It isn't as s…
/r/MensRights06/12/12 01:55 AM
5

Mildly entertaining. I will admit that chant of "women hold up half the sky" seemed especially irrelevant at the protest. Nobody ever said they didn't. What about the people who hold up the other half?
/r/MensRights06/12/12 01:42 AM
1

I may have reasons to delay posting it, but I will do my utmost to make sure it makes it into the public eye.
/r/MensRights06/12/12 01:33 AM
4

putting a name to a face will allow say the police to do something, or the university to do something, or the people this person interacts do something. This is where I think everything hinges. The police won't do anything. They were standing right there. They didn't do anything, and there are no plans to have them do anything. The university won't act. The campus police explained to us that they do not intervene unless there is physical violence. Who else would condemn her? I'll wager her socia…
/r/MensRights05/12/12 09:46 PM
7

I don't think 'any man' knows he could be the victim. I think you underestimate how reflexive white-knighting is for guys. I think something like this would leave the men's movement open to criticism, and I don't think the potential pay off is worth it. Let's say AVFM publishes her information? Then what? The police aren't going to do anything. The university won't do anything. Where will we be? In the same spot, except now somebody who we know hates us can claim 'mens rights activists' helped p…
/r/MensRights05/12/12 09:39 PM
6

You are free to proceed how you like, but I do think it is the wrong approach. The media is taking an interest. Dr. Farrell was interviewed by SunTV and CityTV. He was on CJAD in Montreal. He is going to be on Michael Coren tomorrow night. Do xing her will distract from the positive message
/r/MensRights05/12/12 09:14 PM
4

Why is naming her important? I think showing the kind of people they are is more important than naming them.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 09:09 PM
3

That one less bad, since the people are usually proven in court to have done something wrong. I wasn't aware of register-her, but my objections are basically the same. I think it is productive to focus on making new allies rather than attacking our opponents
/r/MensRights05/12/12 08:52 PM
3

Please explain how "X person is a hateful person and here is the video evidence." is in any way hateful and/or violent? It isn't. But I don't think it is a good PR move to go after this person. It doesn't further the cause. We can already see she is a hatemonger. How does knowing her name change anything? I guarantee you that whether we ever know her identity or not she will likely receive a "rape threat" that she can use to further her victim agenda. Yes, but it becomes that much more plausible…
/r/MensRights05/12/12 07:48 PM
8

Encouragement from their friends is a driving force in how they behave. Men's groups acting like bullies will help their cause the same way their acting like bullies helps our cause. One of their constant refrains is how we're hateful and violent people. If she is doxxed I guarantee some idiot is going to email a rape threat, and that will be all the evidence they need for how violent we are. It is not a productive way to advance men's issues. I don't care about teaching her a lesson. I think AV…
/r/MensRights05/12/12 07:12 PM
9

I don't think she is going to learn that lesson. I think she will double-down on being a victim, and because she is young and cute enough people will shower her with pity that it will further reinforce her victim status. Her friends aren't going to shame her for her conduct. Her friends were probably there cheering her! It might be years before this becomes an issue in something like a job interview, by which point she will be able to shrug it off as acting out in university. The biggest effect …
/r/MensRights05/12/12 06:57 PM
6

What is their #1 public relations technique? Playing the victim. What will doxxing her do? Let her play the victim.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 06:48 PM
9

Bingo. It just takes one idiot troll emailing a rape threat for all of us to look bad. Let her be and focus on the issues.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 06:46 PM
7

If she commited a crime, it should be left with the police. Her conduct speaks for itself. It isn't important who she is, it is the hate and aggression it represents. If she wants to come forward and justify what she did, or apologize for it then I encourage her to do that. Naming her won't make what she did less visible, it will just make the MRM look petty and concerned with vengance. I don't care about vengance. If that kind of hate is what is actually in her heart, I don't need to do anythin…
/r/MensRights05/12/12 06:45 PM
1

This probably belongs in /r/relationships/ not here, but I will say to be careful about your birth control. She may make the decision herself.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 06:24 PM
16

It sounds like you handled it well. It's true of almost any group (not just feminists) that the loudest people are usually the dumbest. In that situation the best you can do is show the group how reasonable you are, and how nutty they are. I think you did that. Trying to change her mind would be a monumental feat.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 06:20 PM
2

Two CAFE volunteers (both men) were physically assaulted that I know of, and one protester claims to have been punched. All of this happened at the back entrance, which we were using to get people around the barricade at the main doors. Once the protesters found out about it, they blocked that door as well, although the police were able to clear it sooner. No charges have been filed by anybody at this point, I think mainly due to the difficulty of figuring out who did what. It was very chaotic o…
/r/MensRights05/12/12 04:26 PM
2

I can only speak about Dr. Farrell, but I have been in regular contact with him after the event and he has no objections to the video. The same film-maker interviewed him earlier that day. The documentary "Broken," will be shown in Ottawa on December 7, 2012 at 6:30 PM at St. Brigid's Centre for the Arts, 310 St. Patrick Street, Ottawa, Ontario. More info can be found at www.digi60.org
/r/MensRights05/12/12 03:19 PM
7

The same people who organized the picket also organized a seminar on "why men's rights groups are wrong" but few people were able to attend since it was at 2:30 pm on a weekday. Aside from that, there have been no statements from anybody except the University of Toronto Student Union, although I think that was published before the video went up. We organize a talk, they shut it down. We openly discuss what happened, they report the videos. We try to explain our perspectives publically, they do n…
/r/MensRights05/12/12 03:14 PM
5

Right here you can see somebody try to leave the building, and a protester pushes the door closed. Plus the whole punching police and screaming "fuck Warren Farrell" thing. The picketers weren't met with violence, they brought violence.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 03:03 PM
3

It was. It had a flood light attached to it, and there was a person following him around with equipment. There was no way any reasonable person could miss it.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 02:58 PM
1

That and the protesters made no sense. I spoke to a few reporters there, and they were complaining that none of the protesters could put together a coherent argument. The best they could get was the nonsense that people like Sandhu said about us supporting violence against children. There is some media attention after the fact, and I'll make sure that get's posted as it comes out.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 02:23 PM
3

They won't do that. They might accidentally say something that cannot be proven in court. We have asked the Toronto Police for their report of the incident.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 02:15 PM
2

They did a great job that night. Many of the protesters clearly wanted violence and the police (campus and Toronto) never gave them the opportunity.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 02:13 PM
3

We're aware. We are moving to a better hosting provider. Edit: I think it is fixed now. I'm not knowledgeable enough about WordPress to know if it was bad luck or malice.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 01:17 PM
151

We almost ought to thank these people. They're doing a much better job of discrediting themselves than we could ever do. Edit: I just saw the UTSU response. I'm going to recommend CAFE use this bit in their letter to the university: The UTSU is calling on members of the University of Toronto and the University of Toronto administration not to tolerate hate speech of any kind on our campus. We encourage the administration to use the Human Rights Code as a guideline in identifying events that may …
/r/MensRights05/12/12 01:41 AM
8

I caught that too. Contrasting that statement with the UofT protests when we tried to hear someone who talks about exactly this. If feminists want to be taken seriously they really should police their own better. I know you can't shut up the radicals, but you can at least add your voice to ours in supporting our attempt at redefining masculinity.
/r/MensRights04/12/12 07:22 PM
1

I don't like to admit it, since I like to see the best in everyone, but there does seem to be a trend of tacit approval of violence to further political or social goals. If you wave it in their face, most people will admit they think of behavior of the protesters is wrong and contrary to Canadian values like freedom of speech. If you ask them to do anything you will be sorely disappointed.
/r/MensRights04/12/12 05:28 AM
2

I admit I haven't read the article incredibly closely, but it seems like they focus on the high acheivers. Every story and study seems to cite MBAs and CEOs. It spends a lot of attention on what feminists have traditionally called "the glass ceiling", which is the fact that there are more men in C-level positions and using this as evidence of discrimination. What they ignore is the "glass cellar" where women seldom end up working the dirtiest or most dangerous jobs out there. It could be on a fi…
/r/MensRights04/12/12 05:22 AM
2

If anybody in Toronto or any Canadian university wants to get involved with CAFE, please send me a PM. We're planning more events, and we need people to help us make it happen.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 08:05 PM
4

An extra anecdote for why women can be our best allies. Most women I speak to want to help others.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 04:00 PM
1

Agreed, although it is telling how unjust that system is. Why aren't there policies prohibiting such concequences to an accusation without a hearing? What does it say of the state of that system when it can be so easily and thoroughly abused?
/r/MensRights03/12/12 03:20 PM
13

There are two main reasons: 1) It is a university campus, and the campus police have a very strict policy of only interfering if things get physical 2) The protesters outnumbered the police. It took the police 45 minutes to get enough officers together to remove them from the doors.
/r/MensRights01/12/12 09:53 PM
2

Page 11 (PDF) It's not quite condemning the war, it's condemning the current governments campaign around the 200 year anniversary.
/r/MensRights01/12/12 05:50 PM
2

Page 11 (PDF) It's not quite condemning the war, it's condemning the current governments campaign around the 200 year anniversary.
/r/MensRights01/12/12 05:50 PM
5

I checked the CFS website, but they haven't posted meeting minutes since 2009.
/r/MensRights01/12/12 01:47 PM
5

Is there a head office you can escalate this to? She's basically letting somebody steal.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 12:21 PM
113

They got stolen.
/r/MensRights28/11/12 01:41 AM
4

Change happens slowly. The first step is the identify and marginalize the behavior. That's the step we're on now. There will be push-back. Sometimes violent. Men's rights has been around since the 70's, but it hasn't started to gain steam until the Internet age when spreading ideas became much easier. Women's suffrage took around 60 years, and that was a fairly straight forward legal change. The tools we have today are better, but the problem is more complex. Changing cultural attitudes about ma…
/r/MensRights27/11/12 04:08 AM
5

You could have pointed out the violent protesters that blocked the doors when a "Men's Rights" group tried to organize a peaceful discussion.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 07:37 PM
71

She's insane, and the only mistake you made was trying to reason with her in the first place. If somebody reads that and thinks you might actually be a potential rapist then they should be removed from positions of responsibility and sent to a rest home.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 07:32 PM
1

I tried to make it; but the time was very inconvenient for somebody with a day job. The one I'm aware of was at 2:30 in the afternoon. If I'm right and you're a student at either York or UofT please PM me. I'm an organizer of a group trying to help Men's Issues groups get started. We already have one at York, and we're trying to get one ratified at UofT.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 04:03 PM
1

I got a vasectomy 2 years ago and I have received conflicting information about how reversible it is. So far it seems like my chances are pretty good, since I'm young (28) but the odds decline over time. How accurate is this?
/r/MensRights25/11/12 12:00 PM
5

Thanks for the feedback. You're probably right. We mostly wanted to get something up quickly to counter critics. I'll let the person in charge of the Youtube channel know.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 12:07 AM
2

We don't know 100% if any particular group is responsible. He said socialists because a number of the protesters did identify themselves as such, and there was an attack piece written about us in a socialist blog.
/r/MensRights21/11/12 12:49 PM
8

Thanks for the support. I'm 99% sure I know who you were at the event. Did I let you in after the police had put up their bike barricade? (that's me in the video) Please PM me if you're interested in getting more involved. I think you would make a great addition to our group.
/r/MensRights21/11/12 02:26 AM
1

No, they deserve to be talked to and corrected. Most of them just have bad information. It's the people using the threat of violence that I have a problem with.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 12:34 PM
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I think feminist is too broad a term in this case. I was there, and a lot of the people blocking the doors were clearly just assholes looking for a fight. Associating them with any idealogy, whether it's anarchism, socialism or feminism isn't accurate. They're thugs looking for a fight, and seeing an opportunity. That's all they are. I had many good discussions with people I disagreed with while I was there. None of them were blocking the doors. Some of them were feminists, some of them were jou…
/r/MensRights20/11/12 06:50 AM
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I don't consider it a chore at all. It helped me organize something that was very chaotic in my mind before that. I honestly believe I'm doing good with these sorts of events, so running into people so completely opposite my position is disorienting. I was prepared for people who understood where I was coming from, but thought I was wrong. I was not prepared for intimidation and ignorance. I thought the opposition was better than that. I'm disappointed to be wrong. I'm also sorry I had to encoun…
/r/MensRights20/11/12 06:35 AM
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You know, even a week ago, I would have disagreed with you. I would have said that you should take the time to understand their opinions and addressed their concerns. My opinions changed a few days ago. I still believe that the majority of people can be brought to understand our viewpoint. They may not agree with it, but they will at least understand it. I am being very careful not to let a few radical assholes affect my opinion of the average person. Even though the vast majority of people are …
/r/MensRights20/11/12 06:18 AM
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We're working on it.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 08:06 PM
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I was there. They blocked the doors and swore and anybody who asked them to move. They would also call people rapists and perverts.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 12:19 PM
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Please let me know where this club event is. I was at the Farrell event and I want to attend this thing.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 12:03 PM
1

When and where is this? I was an organizer for the Warren Farrell event, and that is almost identical to a handout they were using at the event. I would definitely like to go to this.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 02:56 AM
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There hasn't been much reporting on it, unfortunately. There were a few larger local media outlets there, and I did talk to several others on the phone but nobody seems to have actually aired or published anything. Two campus newspapers covered it, but they're very small distribution. We were setting up for the event, and about half an hour before the event was to start a group started to form in front of the main doors. We had heard that there was going to be a protest, but we didn't know how s…
/r/MensRights18/11/12 09:32 PM
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I'm saying that I don't think the thugs blocking the door were anarchists or socialists, no matter what they say. They were a bunch of overgrown children looking for a fight. Treating them as anything more than that gives them a legitimacy they don't deserve.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 09:41 PM
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It may not be worth it to try and change your teachers mind. Focus on the people who are listening. Make the discussion about more than the wage gap. That can turn into an unproductive loop. Ask if there are any areas that feminism gets wrong, or if it should be above criticism. Keep on him to give a clear answer. He will probably try to change the subject, or go back to accusations of sexism. Do not rise to the bait, keep on subject and stay calm. The answer you (hopefully) get will be revealin…
/r/MensRights17/11/12 07:44 PM
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One guy there claimed I assaulted him when I tried to read his press card. They were juvenile and uninterested in hearing what we were about. It was surreal. Even some of the reporters were complaining about them.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 07:32 PM
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I'm going from memory here, so it might not be perfect. I'll avoid the temptation to add some snark and just let them speak for themselves: "Rape is not a right!" "Date rape is not exciting" "Patriarchy is the problem" "Men: resist the partriarchy" There are plenty I missed; I was spending more time looking for media to talk to than reading signs.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 05:36 PM
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Testosterone encourages aggression. Boys tend to have more testosterone. Please stop being pedantic.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 05:31 PM
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I counted about 80 people, not including press.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 05:30 PM
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The Ryersonian has some ok coverage. They were liveblogging.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 05:29 PM
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That's about right. They see it as a victory against misogyny and rape culture. Several of them specifically say the police action was 'unprovoked' despite the fact they refused a lawful order to stop blocking the building entrance.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 05:17 PM
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Right now there is only one article in a campus paper. We're keeping our eyes open. Edit: this coverage is reasonably balanced. There is a minor creep-shaming thing in what was supposed to be a fun ice-breaker, but otherwise it's pretty good.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 03:24 PM
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I don't think that's fair. Some of the protesters were socialists, but we also had socialists come in who were curious about the events. The people who tried to intimidate us are thugs, nothing more. Don't give them more credit than they deserve.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 03:10 PM
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We (I'm an organizer for CAFE) had asked security to be there. When I took the photo the protesters significantly out numbered security so they were trying to keep the peace until the police showed up. The person in charge of security from the venue was a woman, and was professional and competent the whole time.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 03:07 PM
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They were barricading the entrance, and if you asked to get past they would swear at you, and accuse you of being a rapist and/or pervert.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 02:07 PM
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Thanks for coming out! I even overheard some reporters joking about how inarticulate most of the protesters were. It seems rationality is inversely proportional to the volume of your voice. What was most annoying was they were telling people showing up that the event had been cancelled.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 02:05 PM
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It was cancelled due to lack of interest. As far as I know there were no similar threats made.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 01:11 PM
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Event is Warren Farrell speaking on boys in Toronto. Link here: equalitycanada.com/warrenfarrell Edit: sorry for the crappy link; I was surrounded by hostile people so I was working quickly. The police did remove the protesters and we were able to have our event (mostly) as planned, albeit an hour late. I will have a media link tomorrow, and possibly video of the people blocking the entrance and the police action.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 01:25 AM
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They won't. The one in BC determined that dismissing a McDonalds employee who couldn't wash her hands was a human rights violation. One of them (Ontario I think, but I could be wrong) forced a Womens shelter to let a transgendered man counsel rape victims.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 10:47 PM
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Naturally. If it were a good argument a feminist would have already made it. ;-)
/r/MensRights14/11/12 05:32 PM
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I prefer the response that men are objectified as success objects rather than sex objects. We objectify a man when we make his identity his job, or how much money he makes.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 05:16 PM
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We do the same thing in Scouts. You always have another adult in sight. No exceptions.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 04:59 PM
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They can, but every doctor I know of includes two sperm tests as a part of the procedure to make sure it did work. The chance of the procedure not working, and both tests being wrong is vanishingly small.
/r/MensRights13/11/12 12:41 PM
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Human beings are fallible, agreed. I think you'll agree that a real world test would give us a beter idea of what compliance would be like than asking a bunch of people, roughly two-thirds of which aren't even members of the group being discussed.
/r/MensRights13/11/12 01:48 AM
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Also, the number of women surveyed is almost double the number of men, when the question is male contraception.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 10:56 PM
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Interesting how they did a survey, and didn't actually try giving men a pill to take for x amount of time to see if they can do it.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 08:26 PM
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So we found someone on Youtube who can setup strawmen strawpeople and then knock them down. Whoopie.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 06:40 PM
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I've really only learned how to date in the past few years (I'm nearly 28). It was a real wake up call to realize everything I had been taught was wrong. I currently have a fantastic girlfriend after many years of being lonely. I agree there are a lack of good role models. I read Iron John about 5 years ago (when I first started my weird trip into the world of men's issues) and I think I need to read it again. It was part of the reason I became a Scout leader and Big Brother.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 03:48 AM
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"No" can sometimes mean "slow down" or "not yet". It depends on the body language. Hands up, direct eye contact: definitely a no. Eyes down, smile on the face: could be teasing. It can become tricky if it becomes a "he says, she says" situation, but that's why we have judges. For something to be a criminal act, i.e. something we send people to prison for, then the state of mind of the person we send to prison is important. Sex can be full of implication, teasing, and innuendo. Have laws to cover…
/r/MensRights12/11/12 03:40 AM
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My only problem with it is that it leaves out the state of mind of the alleged rapist. For something to be a crime it typically requires that the individual knew what they were doing was illegal.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 03:11 AM
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This is a pretty good definition I think. So much of the grey areas are in situations like where a woman says "no" but her body language invites you to continue, or signals are unclear but there is never a clear "no". Men are generally expected to be the ones to escalate sexually, and it is possible to misread signals. I think the vast majority of men have no interest in raping somebody, and there are a lot of overly broad definitions of rape out there. We do have some laws that are strict liabi…
/r/MensRights12/11/12 03:04 AM
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Someone else already covered the moral angle, so I'll cover the practical one: bowing and scraping to a woman is not an effective dating strategy. Women like a confident guy, not a guy who needs someone to run his life.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 01:33 AM
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Very good article. I especially like the "body as applicance" line.
/r/MensRights11/11/12 12:57 AM
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It varies by state, so I could be wrong, but generally the first priority for the court system is to keep mom off welfare. There is the legal precedent for you to be liable if you have taken on a fatherly role. Be aware that it is a risk, even if you never formally adopted them.
/r/MensRights09/11/12 08:15 PM
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You may be liable for child support for them. It depends on the judge and the state you're in. I'm Canadian, so I don't know the ins and outs of your system.
/r/MensRights09/11/12 08:07 PM
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Just up and vanishing one day will likely get you accused of kidnapping. Do not do it. Since you're posting here I'm assuming you're a man. If that is the case you will already be at a disadvantage in the courts, even with all the stuff you just said about your SO. Do not give her any ammunition, and taking off with your kid is 100% ammunition. I noticed you said "her kids and our baby". I read that as there being other kids that you are not the biological father of. That makes things a lot stic…
/r/MensRights09/11/12 07:50 PM
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Usually you can get half an hour to an hour for free. It depends on the lawyer.
/r/MensRights09/11/12 07:45 PM
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Now if I want to assault women I know exactly where to go. That's very considerate of them. If the parking lots are unsafe, make them safer. That's the real problem.
/r/MensRights09/11/12 07:43 PM
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That one jumped out at me too. I bought the book and will start it on my Kindle at lunch. Isn't the internet great?
/r/MensRights09/11/12 12:54 PM
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How dare they not blame men for the shortages! Next thing you know we'll start acting like women's decisions have concequences, and that's just what those evil MRAs want!
/r/MensRights09/11/12 12:47 PM
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I think security would have an issue with you if you did that.
/r/MensRights09/11/12 05:47 AM
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We disrupt the narrative.
/r/MensRights09/11/12 05:27 AM
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I thought about that, but a laptop bag with laptop inside wouldn't be suspicious since there is not very much space to put new things in. For it to be a good test both genders should have a shoplifting friendly bag and then see who gets stopped.
/r/MensRights08/11/12 09:56 PM
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It's just easier than typing out transphobic, homophobic, racist, sexist, ableist, classist and whatever else they can come up with. The list seems to get longer every time. I appreciate that they're trying to be inclusive, but some of us have day jobs.
/r/MensRights08/11/12 09:19 PM
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If you really want to "Test" though, I would bring a passport, a semi-important docket/folder (maybe birth certificate?) as well as a flash drive and put it in the backpack. This is a very good point, and is a valid objection they might bring up. Women do tend to carry personal items in a purse whereas men tend to use pockets. Explicitly saying you have something like that, ideally something that wouldn't fit in a pocket, or enough things to make pockets impractical would control for another var…
/r/MensRights08/11/12 08:39 PM
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Thanks. The majority of people we talk to are very interested and open. This isn't the first reaction we've dealt with, and I'm sure it won't be the last. About this time last year someone at York university claimed our discussion groups where omni-phobic (my word for all the groups we're supposedly phobic/hateful towards). The dean for the college that hosted us came to one meeting, and ended up coming to several more for her own interest.
/r/MensRights08/11/12 08:14 PM
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I don't actually know; I'm not a UofT student. We're having a planning meeting tonight for the event and this is one of the agenda items.
/r/MensRights08/11/12 07:21 PM
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His main point seems to be that our arguments about men's issues don't hold because none of them are caused by explicit male opression, in the sense of "I am bullying you because you are male." Apparently getting bullied "for acting like a queer" makes someone homophobic, but doesn't say anything about what our social expectations for men are. Apparently taking reasoning further than one step is not something the author excels at.
/r/MensRights08/11/12 07:08 PM
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I'm involved with CAFE, and we reported the take down to campus security. We had UofTs permission to have the banner up. They did not.
/r/MensRights08/11/12 06:41 PM
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Both the banner someone vandalized and the banner next to it have been removed, and not by CAFE or the university. This is the second socialist to write an article critical of CAFE. Here is the first.
/r/MensRights08/11/12 05:24 PM
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I've been in the same situation, although I was met with a generally good reception. I work from home often, so I'm able to make time to get to the meetings. Most of the members are the stay-at-home mom type, meaning that even if they have a part-time job their main concern is raising the kids. I come from a business/IT background and I'm perfectly willing to be the one to ask uncomfortable questions. I think a number of the mothers were grateful, and the principal and I got along, despite my cr…
/r/MensRights08/11/12 03:28 AM
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Ontario is supposed to be based on the amount of time spent in each household. Judges do have discretion though, so that may not hold.
/r/MensRights08/11/12 03:22 AM
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I live in Toronto. Are you able to dig up anything else? I know a number of single dads here, but none with his specific situation. I understand the reason for reddits no personal information rule, but it's times like this I really don't like it. I also know of a number of resources to help him out. I really hope the edit is not true.
/r/MensRights08/11/12 03:21 AM
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In Ontario the formula is supposed to be who has the child for more than 60% of the time. In the case of a 4/3 split he, in theory, should pay nothing.
/r/MensRights08/11/12 03:20 AM
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So?
/r/MensRights07/11/12 08:18 PM
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You could, and many libertarians do. There is a magnitude of difference between being compelled to give up a portion of your income and being compelled to risk your life.
/r/MensRights07/11/12 08:18 PM
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I disagree. If a country can't survive through the voluntary actions of its citizens I would say it deserves to fail. If so few people care about their government that they will not fight to protect it how can they call themselves legitimate?
/r/MensRights07/11/12 03:16 PM
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Love the opening line. I think a quiet but substantial group of people are getting really sick of victim politics.
/r/MensRights07/11/12 12:08 PM
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Does a government that has to survive through conscription deserve to survive? If you can't find enough volunteers to protect it I say let the damn thing go. Especially in the US. Geographically the US is one of the easiest to defend and hardest to invade.
/r/MensRights07/11/12 11:53 AM
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My rough estimate (posted in another comment) puts the maximum value of women killed by DV over 5 years at just over 400 000.
/r/MensRights05/11/12 10:16 PM
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Even then, I doubt it would even come close to the numbers from WW1. I can't find any solid statistics, but WHO is claiming 40-70% of female murder victims are killed by an intimate partner (warning: PDF). I couldn't find raw numbers for female homocide, but if we average out the UNODC global homocide statistics we find that women are an average of 23% of murder victims. (notice how that part somehow didn't make it into the women's centre literature) I'm not sure how reliable this source is, but…
/r/MensRights05/11/12 07:36 PM
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It's a great introduction, and the author has great credentials. For example, he was on the board for the National Organization for Women. He's great at talking about men's issues in a way that is non-accusatory. My biggest criticism of MRAs in general is that they focus too much on the problems with feminism. Feminist attitudes and some feminists certainly deserve some blame for some of the issues affecting men, but many go much deeper than that. He's very good at looking at the deeper causes.
/r/MensRights04/11/12 08:58 PM
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Last I heard it was scheduled for Thursday November 15, but it isn't on the website anymore. I'm looking into why. I'll edit here and PM you when I find out either way. Edit: cancelled due to lack of interest
/r/MensRights04/11/12 08:53 PM
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He is also giving talks in London and Guelph
/r/MensRights03/11/12 12:35 PM
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They have not all been left up. We have had a banner vandalized, posters torn down, and someone scrawled "rape apologist" on one of them. Edit: we did tell campus security, and they do seem to be taking it seriously
/r/MensRights03/11/12 12:35 PM
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You had me so hopeful with the title, then bam.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 07:04 PM
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I don't really see cunt as a gendered insult. Maybe it used to be, but to me it's just a stronger version of 'pretentious prick' or 'jerk' (which I learned today has nothing to do with masturbation). Cunt is one of the few remaining genuinely offensive words, and as such I reserve it for people I find genuinely offensive. I'm not sure I ever saw "penis-head" as an insult after I turned 12.
/r/MensRights01/11/12 03:47 AM
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I would moderate it a little bit; maybe asking if being interested in women's issues means you're anti-man, but the over-all point is solid. Line 3 is particularly good.
/r/MensRights01/11/12 03:06 AM
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She sounds like a collossal thunder-cunt. That is not the question right now. If we're interested in changing hearts and minds we can't create enemies. We have plenty as it is. Rightly or wrongly, it doesn't matter. We need to create allies. It gets back to the old "blue pill/red pill" trope. If you try and force someone to take the Red Pill before they're ready they will violently resist you. You have to groom them until they're ready. Ask Emma why she is exempt from the law. Let her explain. S…
/r/MensRights01/11/12 02:48 AM
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We're planning on recording the talk. I'll be sure to post it when it's ready.
/r/MensRights01/11/12 02:22 AM
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Most smartphones have free apps that record all calls. It's great peace of mind.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 06:26 PM
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There are two smaller talks in London (Ontario) and Guelph, although those are probably far for you too.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 11:26 AM
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Really bad typo in the title. I really, really hope that's a typo.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 12:06 AM
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This sort of crap is the same reason I stopped bothering with the skeptic community. It became less about rolling back instances of church and state together and more about bickering with Christians.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 06:01 PM
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She's an ignorant fuck-wit. Don't waste your time or energy on who ever wrote that. Spend your time convincing your average person that men face issues too. An idiot like that will drag you down to her level then beat you with experience.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 12:04 PM
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The only quote they have from the mother is ‘It’s all being dealt with at the moment and I don’t want to comment.’ How is that quote anti-men? It's deliberately non-commital.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 12:31 PM
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If the system is anything like Canada's, I suspect the state is the one really pushing for this since then they won't have to make as many welfare payments. I'm not excusing them, but bashing the women while minimizing the massive legal system that lives off of this extortion misses the bigger picture.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 12:24 PM
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Possibly. Apparently there was a PHP vulnerability in the version we were using, but I just updated that. Still, I can't imagine that would be the cause of the ranking.
/r/MensRights27/10/12 06:04 PM
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That's news to me. I'll have to check into it. I'm on the board for the group so I can safely say the group itself is legit. Maybe the site is infected with something.
/r/MensRights27/10/12 01:32 PM
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Canadian Association for Equality is running a Men's Issues Awareness campaign. They're mainly based in Toronto but they support campus groups across the country. There is some information on their site.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 04:36 PM
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But the shrimp would still be in the train car?
/r/MensRights26/10/12 03:45 PM
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Not sure why this belongs here. It's not even a well researched article, but even assuming it were pointing out that men generally have more upper body strength is hardly controversial. I'm moderately active in /r/bodyweightfitness and one thing I noticed about that article is that the women didn't train for pullups by doing pull ups. There was no mention of negatives, half-pull ups, anything like that. That's generally held to be the best way to do it.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 01:56 PM
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You're setting yourself up for a strawman attack if you take this angle. Remember, their argument is that these women are forced into prostitution and that if men would just stop buying them then the whole problem would go away. That's the argument you have to go after. Their emotional appeal is exploited women. The appeal is BS, but your average person on the street is not going to know this. You need a pithy way of pointing it out.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 02:28 PM
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I prefer Maggie's writing style,but Furry Girl is good too.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 01:02 PM
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Honest Courtesan is a great resources for debunking trafficking hysteria. I like the idea of a counter-campaign, although I think the slogans you posted would create more opposition than agreement. The slogan you're up against uses shaming language and an appeal to emotion to get agreement. However, "your argument is logically flawed" is a shitty slogan. I propose: "real women don't shame men" ok, but still potentially argument starting "real people look at the evidence" Could work, but would ne…
/r/MensRights25/10/12 11:56 AM
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This guy was the first case my mom and I argued about in a long time. She had basically assumed he was guilty and I had to remind her of why we have due process. She is doing better now, but there is still progress to be made.
/r/MensRights24/10/12 11:40 AM
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Remember, the 15,728 kronor is after taxes. I don't know tax law in the UK, but I imagine there is some deducted from your minimum wage.
/r/MensRights19/10/12 11:50 AM
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When I saw the headline I was all ready to defend the prostitute (Butler) but the provocation she's claiming is a real stretch. Unless Potter (the client) knew that she had been assaulted as a child it couldn't reasonably be called provocation. Provocation requires intent and unless you can prove that the defense doesn't hold. (note I am not a lawyer, especially not an Australian one and my comment is based on what I consider to be common-sense definitions and legal precedent) From wikipedia it …
/r/MensRights19/10/12 11:39 AM
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atheism != atheism plus
/r/MensRights15/10/12 07:46 PM
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From the tone of that post, I'd say a prostitute would probably have a more honest relationship with a man.
/r/MensRights15/10/12 11:11 AM
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Next time be sure to ask her about the glass cellar: how the vast majority of dangerous jobs are performed by men. Tell her you're perfectly willing to talk about ways to get rid of the glass ceiling, so long as we take steps to get rid of the glass cellar at the same time.
/r/MensRights14/10/12 03:11 AM
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Freethinkers the lot of them... We have a lot of the same nonsense up here in Canada. Edit: here is the article in question. He criticized a 'femtheist' with overly thin skin. How dare he?!
/r/MensRights09/10/12 02:20 AM
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You are right, although it also says that "Reciprocity was associated with more frequent violence among women". It sounds like even in those cases they are the initiators more often than men. I'm not exactly clear on what an 'adjusted odds ratio' is, but it sounds like they're 2.3 times as likely to initiate violence. Women are more likely to be injured in both cases, which probably has something to do with the average difference in size.
/r/MensRights09/10/12 02:15 AM
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It is a Matrix reference. It's very common in MRM circles to refer to someone who still believes in the kind of stuff Manatee was writing about ("women can do it better", "men are slobs", etc...). Someone who has taken the red pill has realized that it is all an illusion and sees the world for what it really is (usually that laws tend to favour women and that there are many social taboos against being male). I'm being vague on purpose since it is a very widely used term and therefore means diffe…
/r/MensRights08/10/12 10:31 PM
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Ah. No, that one doesn't seem like a sexual assault to me since she said it was ok.
/r/MensRights06/10/12 04:52 PM
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How is this even a question? Hands to yourself. We learn this in kindergarten. Nothing changes if the person is paid to look pretty.
/r/MensRights06/10/12 04:42 PM
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Mens rea has been a part of criminal law for ages. Canadian law uses the word "reasonable" a lot. It's meant to be a term that is left up to the judgement of either a judge or a jury. For example in self-defense cases, the test is whether a "reasonable person" would fear for their safety.
/r/MensRights06/10/12 02:36 PM
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Agreed. The law itself says nothing gender specific. The motivation behind the 1993 amendment seems to have been gender based, but the law is neutral.
/r/MensRights06/10/12 02:34 PM
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The way I read it, she deliberately misled him. The claim was for fraud, and the article mentions her 'misrepresenting' the paternity.
/r/MensRights05/10/12 07:03 PM
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The Great Poster tear-down extravaganza JtO posts so many videos this one was easier to find.
/r/MensRights05/10/12 05:58 PM
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Part of a three city tour, yes (Guelph and London are the other two). We're really looking forward to his visit.
/r/MensRights05/10/12 05:45 PM
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We will. You can see some of our past lectures here
/r/MensRights05/10/12 04:21 PM
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There's a lecture on misandry at UofT next Friday. The presenter has written several books on the subject.
/r/MensRights05/10/12 04:14 PM
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John the Other is in Vancouver.
/r/MensRights05/10/12 04:13 PM
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I disagree. Depending on the situation and where OP lives, involving CPS can make everyone's life a huge hassle. Once they get involved getting them to un-involve themselves can be damn near impossible.
/r/MensRights05/10/12 11:26 AM
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I don't know you at all, so take what I have to say with a healthy pinch of salt. For me, a big part of my maturing into a man was learning to separate my self-worth from the opinions of those around me. This includes, but is not limited to my mother. I agree; it sounds like you had a lack of male role models growing up. There is no reason not to try and make up for lost time. Find men in your community depending on your interests. I find charity work to be enormously satisfying; for you it migh…
/r/MensRights05/10/12 11:20 AM
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He could at least say something. All he does is cackle through the whole video. I kept waiting for him to make an actual point but one never surfaced.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 06:36 PM
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Kay has been writing and speaking about men's issues for awhile, but you're right that it is under appreciated.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 04:07 PM
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The site I linked to does a fair bit of publicization. As it stands I'm not sure of the best route. I live in Canada, so there is very little I can do to influence the US politically. I think making people aware of the abuses is an important step, with an collorary that we need to try and reduce people's (clearly misplaced) trust of government.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 11:14 AM
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"No, just some of the loonies who claim to advocate for it."
/r/MensRights02/10/12 08:17 PM
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He was probably afraid of the concequences if he did physically restrain the child. He was in an impossible situation, and now he's being shamed in the press. But we're just a bunch of mysogynist hate-mongers, and everyone knows being strong makes you immune to joint injuries...
/r/MensRights02/10/12 04:32 PM
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It's extremely rare for a prosecutor to be charged with anything. They have 'qualified immunity', which is becoming a huge problem
/r/MensRights02/10/12 04:26 PM
10

Slow news week for The Star it seems. I wonder how long that one was sitting in the drawer before they needed to fill some space.
/r/MensRights01/10/12 04:37 PM
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I do like the sarcastic tone the Post is taking with the article. “Hey buddy, is that the new iPhone 5? Hand it over. Actually, wait a minute, do I really want to do this? Or I am just acting out in response to an upbringing of socioeconomic discrimination and hardship? Yes, that’s it. Good thing I was forced to take that class two semesters ago. Pardon me, sir. My mistake. Here’s your phone back. I’m just discontented by your apparent privilege, and frustrated by a society that puts precedence …
/r/MensRights27/09/12 12:25 AM
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That sounds more like Carlin.
/r/MensRights20/09/12 01:05 AM
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I like Carlin's bit (not an exact quote): It's fucking stupid that it's perfectly legal to give something away, but it becomes a crime when you want to sell it!
/r/MensRights19/09/12 05:52 PM
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It's for the same reason animal rights activists don't pick fights with bikers wearing leather jackets. Instead they go after ladies in fur coats. It's common sense.
/r/MensRights16/09/12 11:45 PM
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I love reading stories like this. It's people like you sharing their stories that really helps what we're trying to do here. Hopefully we can change things so more young people have the same opportunities with their fathers.
/r/MensRights14/09/12 01:53 AM
1

Big Brothers just launched the Game On! program. It is still focussed on being active, but there is a lot more flexibility on what they do. I've run one session of it already. The sessions are too short in my opinion, but they are looking to improve the program.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 12:36 AM
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I think if you combine the two he looks like even more of a shill. "These expensive drugs? They're great. That cheap plant over there that can't be patented? Nah, it's bad for you."
/r/MensRights12/09/12 10:29 PM
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I don't know. I doubt it. They're completely separate organizations. I don't really have a problem with girl-only organizations, I just think it's wrong that boys can't have the same thing.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 10:23 PM
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In Canada it has been coed for awhile. In the case of my group they're all boys anyway, but girls can register.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 08:11 PM
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And with Dr. Drew's current scandal his credibility is hardly beyond reproach.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 05:13 PM
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We take the high road. Remember, we're not going to change the minds of the radical assholes who do shit like that. I'm not interested in wasting time on them. It's normal people who have male relatives that can't get a job; or who are drugged, and falling behind in school; or any other social issue we bring up. Those are the people we need to reach. We can spend our time on them and actually get some results.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 02:58 AM
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Don't bother with Manhood Academy. They're what give MRAs a bad name.
/r/MensRights11/09/12 11:41 PM
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Both of them are popular platforms for scoffing at "right-wingers" so it makes sense that there is some overlap in people who want to have fashionable beliefs. Of course there are atheists and feminists who aren't like that (I'm an atheist as least) but they tend to be less vocal whiny.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 09:13 PM
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That's because you're trying to use logic, you damn sexist. /s
/r/MensRights10/09/12 07:40 PM
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And oddly, one of the ones where she talks the least. Sometimes the best thing you can do for your cause is to give the other side enough rope to hang themselves with.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 07:39 PM
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Incident number 1: Pretty clear case of harassment. Not gonna defend it because I don't think it's defensible. They did have a policy, but didn't want to enforce it against a long-time volunteer. That is a tough spot to be in, but I think they made the wrong call not enforcing it. The en masse resignation of the committee does suggest the problem isn't as widespread as they want to make it seem. Incident number 2: Dawkins doesn't have much patience for whining, and Watson is a professional whine…
/r/MensRights10/09/12 06:54 PM
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You're right. The sexes are different physically. Men tend to be (physically) stronger, and women (physically) weaker. There is a great deal of social expectation baked into these physiological facts. There is a great deal less sympathy for a man who is physically weak than for a woman. There is much more of a "sink or swim" attitude when it comes to a less capable man than a woman. The fact that men are far more likely to die in the course of earning a living is testament to the lack of concern…
/r/MensRights31/08/12 01:11 AM
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I think you basically have it covered. The risks are overstated for one group and understated for the other. I think men need a better education in the kinds of physical risks that are a part of being a modern man. The risk of dying in a mine is reduced (although still almost exclusively male) but the risk of appearing to do something inappropriate with a woman or child is magnified.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 02:25 PM
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(disclosure: I didn't listen to the last minute of the call) I fail to see the big problem here. He was the one bringing in all the hateful stuff. She said some stuff that is probably not true (MRAs stalking people) but the majority of the misandry was coming from the caller and it seemed like she was humouring him.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 11:19 AM
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Men don't know the fear of being in an altercation with someone who could harm them? Men are more likely to be assaulted by men than women are. I think the author is mistaken. Boys learn very early the cost of violence, that's why many of us are reluctant to use it. Often it's the ones most capable of doing it (martial artists, or other very fit people) who know the risks most intimately. Equating hitting on a woman to threatening her with rape is a false equivalence. If I propositioned her in a…
/r/MensRights24/08/12 02:54 AM
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It's idiots like this that pushed me to stop following most US news. It really is mind blowing what passes for politics.
/r/MensRights20/08/12 01:01 PM
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Very good news. I like that JtO is keeping things light. It's easy to get too worked about people are aren't worth the effort.
/r/MensRights16/08/12 03:14 AM
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This has nothing to do with furthering the cause. GTFO.
/r/MensRights10/08/12 01:06 AM
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I've had decent success basically ignoring what ever the person was saying about male privilege and using it as a platform to talk about female privilege (without ever calling it that), or using it to point out that both genders have trouble in a particular area. For example I was giving a lift to somebody who started ranting about how men on the prowl are just looking for sex. I agreed with her, and pointed out how frustrating it was for men who do want a relationship when there are women out t…
/r/MensRights10/08/12 12:28 AM
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It started out when I was applying for scholarships and grants back in university (I graduated five years ago). I noticed tons of scholarships for women and none for men. Considering I had never seen girls being held back at school, and most of the top performers were girls, this seemed unfair. I knew people wouldn't be receptive to it, so I mostly kept my mouth shut. A few years later, I'm finishing up school, and I have a two year-old (that whole thing became another red pill moment, but not u…
/r/MensRights09/08/12 11:22 PM
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I'm with you. I think the person is wrong and may have caused a lot more harm than good but 'monster' is too strong. She obviously had a vested interest in advertising her brand of feminism as the best. She was making money for doing it.
/r/MensRights30/07/12 04:22 AM
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I like that. It draws a line between "real" feminists that are interested in equality and professional feminists that see grievance everywhere.
/r/MensRights28/07/12 01:28 AM
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This seems like a case of the loudest (or most aggressive) voice heading to the top. It only takes one person to vandalize a poster. Here in Toronto we have had a generally good reception to the ideas, although we have also had our share of trolls at talks and such. Personally I think there are much more sympathetic causes we can focus on than false rape, although the misandry evident in the "all men are rapists" claim is horseshit and should be called out as such.
/r/MensRights27/07/12 05:18 PM
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No, really. Look it up. There is a huge difference between somebody saying "I don't think this is worth our time, let's stop doing it" and someone using their authority to suppress opinions they don't like.
/r/MensRights25/07/12 09:21 PM
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It is drowning them out with better content. Censoring by definition involves someone acting in an official capacity.
/r/MensRights25/07/12 08:09 PM
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An opinion. A request. Pick your term. He is not a mod. He does not have the power to censor anybody even if he wanted to. He has the same power all of us have, which is the downvote. He is encouraging us to use it.
/r/MensRights25/07/12 07:53 PM
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Who said anything about censorship? OP thinks those kind of posts hurt us more than help us and is making a public appeal for it to stop. Censorship is when somebody in charge forbids things from being mentioned. There is a big difference between saying "We're better than this crap" and "None of you are allowed to say these things".
/r/MensRights25/07/12 07:35 PM
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If you're interested, the Canadian Association for Equality has helped a number of people start up campus groups. I know one of the people there was in touch with a group in America, but I don't know much beyond that.
/r/MensRights25/07/12 04:04 PM
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If you're in Ontario York University has a Men's Issues group that meets during the school year. They don't focus just on body dimorphism, but it does come up. There is also a researcher at I think Western University. She may be at Trent. I tried to track down her information but I couldn't. If you can track her down she can very likely point you towards some good resources.
/r/MensRights25/07/12 02:40 PM
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It takes discipline and hard work, and a bit of luck in finding the right information. Most of the stuff in the muscle magazines is complete nonsense, especially for an untrained teenager.
/r/MensRights23/07/12 02:54 PM
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I went through a bit of that in my early twenties. I eventually got over it on my own, but I have seen guys at the gym who clearly have this kind of a problem. I've now completely stopped going to the gym and exercise at home with simple tools. It's healthier and I end up looking pretty good, but with no joint problems, kidney problems, etc... When I volunteer with teenagers who want to get big I usually give them my example and explain how the guys in the magazines are just as fake as the girls…
/r/MensRights23/07/12 02:52 PM
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I'm curious, which one made her cry?
/r/MensRights19/07/12 07:52 PM
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I wouldn't make it a "prove the feminists wrong" kind of question, but you're right that some graphics to illustrate the point would be useful. Here are a few quick ones I pulled together in Google Trends. I'm sure the commenters can think of more: Searches for: breast cancer vs prostate cancer violence against women VS violence against men girls education vs boys education this one isn't as bad if you restrict it to the US. Stuff like education for girls in Afganistan skews the results a bit I'…
/r/MensRights17/07/12 07:24 PM
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I'd say that makes him an excellent comedian. Jesters could always get away with saying unpopular things. Louis is in the same tradition. Saying something like that while he gets you to laugh is how he gets your guard down.
/r/MensRights17/07/12 07:11 PM
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A gentleman requires ladies, and those are in short supply. Still, I think I get what you're saying. I try and live in a way that I can take or leave anybody if I don't feel they're contributing to my life. This includes women and men.
/r/MensRights17/07/12 07:07 PM
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look up Dr. Edward Kruk. He has quite a bit of good material.
/r/MensRights13/07/12 04:36 PM
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So this is in her twitter feed. Seems legit. I suspect she's referencing a men's group at York. Apparently after their first meeting last year the GSU sent a complaint to the dean of that college using very similar language. It sounds lime we found the author. To the deans credit, she went to the next meeting and found the complaints to be without merit. There were several more before exam time rolled around and the group stopped for the summer.
/r/MensRights13/07/12 03:19 AM
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I think the first two are especially good. Even the most rabid misandrist would probably agree with them: Rule One: Toward men and masculinity we direct accountability without compassion, which is ruthless. It is respecting men as autonomous and empowered beings responsible for their own decisions and predicaments, but it is not loving men enough to recognize their true vulnerability to forces outside their control and to lend men their fair share of empathy. Rule Two: Toward women and femininit…
/r/MensRights12/07/12 03:51 PM
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You need a study proving that the common understanding of 'rape' is a male having sex with a female without her consent? Tell you what, type "define:rape" into Google and tell me what comes up. Do you need another study proving that juxtaposing "rape whistle" with the claim that "1 in 2 girls growing up in Canada will be physically or sexually abused" is implying that 1 in 2 girls will be raped? Of course they don't explicitly say it, then their dishonesty would be plain. Instead they couch it i…
/r/MensRights09/07/12 03:24 PM
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"Rape" immediately brings up male on female violence. The implication is clear.
/r/MensRights09/07/12 03:03 PM
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It seems most of the commenters are trying to extract his head from his ass and get him to report. That's something at least. Hopefully he does it. If the story is accurate that girl is a danger to others.
/r/MensRights27/06/12 11:46 AM
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I get the feeling the ambiguity is deliberate. Most of his characters are extremes of some kind. I actually like the new rad fem character. He definitely pokes fun through her, but he does use her to make serious points too.
/r/MensRights24/06/12 09:58 PM
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I'm not sure I understand the last part, but I do agree about the lack of support groups. I volunteer in a few for boys for exactly that reason. There are some girls who like building rockets and camping, and they're welcome, but we don't compromise our program for what it is.
/r/MensRights24/06/12 09:54 PM
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Because it's easy to identify those groups. Psychopaths usually know what they are and make an effort to hide it. It's tough to hide your gender.
/r/MensRights24/06/12 09:47 PM
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I won't link to them, but they're an extremely misogynistic group. The comments are never on topic, and they just link to their website.
/r/MensRights24/06/12 08:18 PM
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CAFE has helped quite a few campus groups get started. I'm not sure where you are, but they mostly do stuff in Canada and America.
/r/MensRights24/06/12 08:16 PM
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That's pretty crazy. It looks like she does generally get slapped down by most. What really caught my eye was that the circumcision question was supposed to be the easiest one to explain. I'm almost frightened to hear the explanations for why the prison-industrial complex is only sexist to women.
/r/MensRights24/06/12 07:47 PM
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S23E02 - Bart Stops to Smell the Roosevelts I haven't been watching many of the new ones either, but I heard that was a good one so I looked it up. It may even have been on here that I heard it.
/r/MensRights22/06/12 10:42 AM
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Not seen that yet, but it would not be a first for Greoning (?). He did a pretty good Simpsons episode where Superintendant Chalmers takes some of the underperforming boys and gets them interested in the world.
/r/MensRights21/06/12 12:42 PM
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That would be part of the social thing. Admitting that men can care about children's development and contribute meaningfully to it would be a big step for a number of people.
/r/MensRights06/06/12 02:33 PM
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It's true, they do need them. Pity the incentives are so stacked against men getting involved. I'm a volunteer with two groups like that, and they're constantly struggling to get men to join up. I'm scrupulous about following the "two-deep" rule at all times, which means I always have another adult in sight when I'm with kids. That avoids the vast majority of trouble. One way to get more volunteers would be to attach a little bit more status to the whole thing, but that's a social question, not …
/r/MensRights06/06/12 01:37 PM
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You're talking about a high level of training in those things. You're right, but it's a very small number of people (and fewer women than men) who get to that level. When you're talking about the average man versus the average woman, the strength difference is going to be a big deciding factor in who comes out on top. I personally think the cop may have overreacted a bit, but given the very limited view we have of the situation, I don't think it's certain one way or the other.
/r/MensRights29/05/12 07:16 PM
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Very cool idea. Playful, a little cocky. The notepad gives you a shared secret. I wonder if it would work on a subway? The intervals between stops are shorter, so it would be a bigger risk.
/r/seduction25/05/12 09:47 PM
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Its been pretty much a non issue up here for awhile. We have a socially conservative government in power and they have explictly said they have no intention of changing the laws.
/r/MensRights23/05/12 04:57 PM
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All the MRAs I know are completely in favour of gay rights. They do often overlap. For example, there are tons of women's shelters, but none for men. Where can a man go to escape a violent relationship? This is a valid question regardless of his sexual orientation.
/r/MensRights23/05/12 04:54 PM
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I represses women, because there's absolutely no way a woman would choose a job with flexible hours and high pay. Also, it's icky.
/r/MensRights13/05/12 11:35 AM
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Very true, and easy to forget.
/r/MensRights01/05/12 01:10 AM
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Real privilege is being able to go through life without needing to answer to anyone's criticisms. Love the concluding line. You know it's good when it's quotable and something you wouldn't quote in "polite company".
/r/MensRights01/05/12 12:59 AM
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If you had false premises you could still reach an incorrect conclusion even if your logic was perfect. Still, I don't think that's what they mean.
/r/MensRights01/05/12 12:57 AM
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Considering she's also the one who wrote "Manning Up: How the Rise of Women is Turning Men into Boys" I think this is a great step.
/r/MensRights26/04/12 03:32 PM
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New account, can't find the message in her feed. My vote: troll. On the off chance it isn't, why are we wasting time on a bigot? We have bigger fish to fry.
/r/MensRights25/04/12 04:05 PM
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Generally speaking women aren't attracted to sensitive stay-at-home men. It's unusual for a woman to "marry down" that way. Most want someone who at least has the same level of education/income that they do.
/r/MensRights23/04/12 06:08 PM
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I like this idea. I'll suggest it to our campus groups as well. It won't get as many women (they come out to these events more than men in my experience) but at least more of the message will get out.
/r/MensRights21/04/12 10:56 PM
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This article is 2 years old.
/r/MensRights20/04/12 02:28 PM
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Bizzare. I can't believe the time and energy people put into these things.
/r/MensRights13/04/12 10:42 AM
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Interestingly, the US prohibits importing products made by forced labour, but the majority of equipment the army uses is made by prisoners.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 09:52 PM
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John Stossel did a great piece on overcriminalization pretty recently. He focuses more on the negative effect it can have on business and the economy, but the overall point is the same. There was also a segment on a British show called QI that I can't find right now that talks about the same thing.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 09:51 PM
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With a similar group at York U we didn't get any protests, but the graduate student union did send a letter claiming the meeting was 'homophobic, racist and misogynistic'. The master of college didn't respond to the letter, but did come to the next meeting. She enjoyed herself and encouraged us to hold more of them.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 02:06 PM
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Great to see. York U in Toronto had a monthly talk about men and masculinity. Looks like this is a step above that.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 02:04 PM
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It's refreshing to see some honesty about sex rather than the common Victorian view that women are chaste creatures who are corrupted by vile men.
/r/MensRights09/04/12 12:06 PM
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Thank you! Well put. Feeding the trolls only encourages them, and it means we spend less time doing worthwhile things.
/r/MensRights08/04/12 03:01 PM
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It could have easily happened. Not for statutory rape, but for other reasons. It does go to show how utterly useless sex offender registries are.
/r/MensRights05/04/12 02:44 PM
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I read their article as more being about how the post here was likely bullshit, and some of our members are too willing to assume the worst of women.
/r/MensRights05/04/12 02:38 PM
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“My primary source of income is two divorces,” plus “I’m not a gold digger,” Cognitive dissonance much?
/r/MensRights05/04/12 02:26 PM
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I'm sure I've seen more than one "former prostitute" AMA.
/r/MensRights04/04/12 05:31 PM
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I agree with a lot of what you're saying. I took his poem as being more about men being willing to stand up and proudly declare that they will define themselves rather than letting someone else do it for them. He is blaming men to a degree, because it will have to be us that make that declaration, and many are unwilling or unable to do it. Women will not do it for us, nor should they. We don't all have to start liking ballet and foie gras, but we should acknowledge that a man can like those thin…
/r/MensRights02/04/12 02:09 PM
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I think he's saying that he agrees with that part of the article regarding the portrayal and perception of men, and how that might affect a male growing up.
/r/MensRights29/03/12 09:52 PM
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She gave a talk with a men's group I'm involved with. We're hoping to get the video online soon.
/r/MensRights29/03/12 04:06 PM
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I can definitely see useful applications for the term, I'm just worried it will become abuse like 'homophobe' or 'islamophobe'. Usually when someone is called a 'homophobe' they're not actually acting in a way that shows an irrational fear of gays. They're acting in a way that shows they have contempt for gays* For example, the extreme "all men are rapists" argument we see sometimes, or even supporters of VAWA in the US could more accurately be called androphobes, since they are displaying an ir…
/r/MensRights27/03/12 01:33 PM
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I think that's the first time I've seen the word 'androphobe'. I prefer misandrist. A phobia is an irrational fear of something, a mis- is a hatred. Androphobe may well apply to some of the people we write about here, but it seems like misandry is a more accurate term in more cases.
/r/MensRights27/03/12 11:29 AM
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I volunteer with a Beaver Scouts group (18 five to seven year-olds, all but two are boys). I can confidently say that the boys do have a harder time listening and following spoken instructions than the girls do. It happens often enough and with such a large majority of them that I think it is a fair generalization. How I handle that is by acting more energetic, and giving them something physical to do. I don't make them stand apart from each other and repeat after me, I give them a goal I think …
/r/MensRights27/03/12 02:00 AM
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I'm not into guys, but since they seem to emphasize the non-sexual nature of the classes I might actually be interested in trying it. Even with my involvement in men's issues, I tend to assume something like that is about gay men hooking up. I am genuinely interested in learning how my body works, and where I might have weaknesses. Yoga is great for that. Yoga with an experienced teacher who can literally see everything you do would be very enlightening.
/r/MensRights25/03/12 05:48 AM
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Marx said that we can judge the progress of a civilization by the relative status of women within. That's a very good point. How many women die on the job every year? We should be pushing for equality in this number. Historically women people have largely been viewed as commodities by men people, objects to be bartered and haggled over. FTFW With the ever growing power of women in society, and the realization that they literally don't need men (very often at least), we are fast approaching a cro…
/r/MensRights25/03/12 05:39 AM
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If unmarried dads have the same responsibilities as married dads, then they should have the same rights. Next question: what rights do dads have? In most developed countries fathers have essentially no reproductive rights, so the distinction between married and unmarried is meaningless. The linked article makes much the same point, although less explicitly. Key quote form the article: “At the heart of the opposition’s position is the low valuing of fatherhood – the cost of the current system….is…
/r/MensRights25/03/12 05:22 AM
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I see it as being about how men are under the same pressure as women when it comes to how they look. Are there unrealistic expectations for how women should look? Yes. Are the expectations for men any better? No. Do we ever acknowledge that part of it? No. There are plenty of messages for women about how they should be happy with how they look no matter what. I don't see similar messages for men, and as much as I don't like to admit it, I don't see them forthcoming.
/r/MensRights25/03/12 04:12 AM
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Nice to see some more main stream coverage. I had never heard of this guy, but it's a very interesting idea he had. Hopefully CNN keeps it up.
/r/MensRights24/03/12 03:55 PM
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Kay is a great writer on men's issues. She wants to write about it more, but her editor doesn't want her to be type-cast as the "men's issues lady". No question she is a strong ally.
/r/MensRights24/03/12 02:11 PM
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This could work
/r/MensRights23/03/12 10:19 PM
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Justice for them would be to have their own posts read back to them for eternity. I'm open to suggestions for how to realize that.
/r/MensRights23/03/12 10:09 PM
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Illegitimi non carborundum
/r/MensRights23/03/12 10:02 PM
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I wish I had their kind of time. Considering what a bunch of misogynists we all are, it sure does take a lot of effort to make us look bad.
/r/MensRights23/03/12 09:57 PM
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Pulling a knife is a fairly extreme example. In that case I would say there was a realistic threat to your life so almost any response is warranted, up to and including lethal force. But at the same time, if a twelve year-old takes a swing at me, I'm not justified in pile-driving him into the pavement; even if it will stop him ever doing it again. Maybe it's better to dodge and hit hard enough to scare him, but not enough to injure. Or to take the hit, show no reaction and just stare them down. …
/r/MensRights22/03/12 03:44 AM
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I think that's what he's saying with his "swat a mosquito with a baseball bat" comment. Respond with an appropriate level of force, either equal or slightly higher to prevent harm. Don't utterly destroy them just because you can.
/r/MensRights21/03/12 04:54 PM
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I think she gets it. This sums is up pretty well: A lot of these feminists don't live or work in a man's world. If they were to, they would see that the men don't treat them any differently than they treat each other.
/r/MensRights21/03/12 04:49 PM
11

I saw an interview with the film maker. His point is basically that the term 'paedophile' has expanded to include anybody 18 and under, when in medical terms it means somebody who is attracted to a sexually immature person. He wants to create a distinction between somebody attracted to say, a mature 16 year-old versus a 10 year-old. While most people still shouldn't try and have sex with the 16 year-old due to power issues and such, the attraction itself is a normal biological response, while at…
/r/MensRights21/03/12 04:17 PM
2

My favourite: Her attorney defended her against the assault charges, saying that she was suffering from PMS at the time of the incident. Dershowitz, clever man that he is, pointed out that the judge accepting the PMS defense would also be obligated to revoke the woman’s medical license, since it would be an absolute disaster if she started exhibiting symptoms of PMS during an operation. Although this is pretty good too: [...] just like blaming pornography for rape and child abuse, is “like blami…
/r/MensRights20/03/12 09:25 PM
4

Agreed. If she has an established record of lying the next guy (who probably won't be as prepared) will have an easier time beating the accusations. OP doesn't say, but if he's in uni it would be a good idea to file something with them too, explaining his side.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 11:39 AM
11

A feminist would probably have better lawyers. This guy represented hiimself, and he is not a law student. It's no surprise he lost.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 11:25 AM
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Don't care. People have been mean to me on the internet before, they will do it again.
/r/MensRights17/03/12 11:51 AM
4

Well, my thinking 3 out of 5 people are reasonable is not bad. I like 1 and 2, thought #3 was a bit too knee-jerk and reactionary. #4 was just a boot-licking loser. #5 was ok, but didn't really make a strong point. One thing I did notice, is that after #4 makes his little ingratiating remark, a few women applaud but almost no men do.
/r/MensRights15/03/12 01:44 PM
9

This has to be reckless endangerment, or negligence, or something. Even if you can't get the mohel on anything, there must be something you can do about the parents. It's like whether or not a Jehova's Witnesses child should get a blood transfusion over the parents wishes.
/r/MensRights14/03/12 04:32 AM
2

Most of the comments say he should GTFO. Top voted comment is to document his injuries, the next one is that he should leave her ASAP. Not sure that's "nothing he can do". They do agree calling the cops is probably pointless.
/r/MensRights13/03/12 06:41 PM
1

What do you guys think I should do? Definitely go for the transfer to Ft. Sill. I know nothing about army procedure, so I can't offer any advice on making that happen. It sounds like you lucked out with a woman who isn't interested in taking you to the cleaners (a quick look through this subreddit will show you they exist) Are you planning on making the army your career, or is it a temporary thing? If it's temporary I'd say finish your term then GTFO and move near your daughter. If it's your car…
/r/MensRights13/03/12 05:59 PM
3

I've been thinking about the same thing. Lately I've decided to hold off as long as possible in order to make sure who ever I end up with is mature and reasonable. It's rare these days to find, but they do exist. Then even if we do split I'll have regular access. I've been talking about MRM type stuff with the woman I'm with now and she's been very sympathetic and receptive. If she hadn't been, I could have stopped seeing her with no regrets.
/r/MensRights13/03/12 05:53 PM
1

Wish I had checked the comments before I called my friend in Regina, but I'm glad to hear he's ok.
/r/MensRights13/03/12 02:36 AM
2

Could use some citations. Regulars here are familiar with the arguments, but new people would see that as unfounded assertions.
/r/MensRights12/03/12 02:56 PM
3

I see where you're coming from, but I think ascribing that level of intent to is incorrect. A conspiracy on that level would be impossible, even if you had legions of useful idiots. I agree that those are many of the consequences that are beneficial to the state, but I'm very skeptical that there was any intent to do that, especially as early as 1900's.
/r/MensRights12/03/12 02:49 PM
2

Good talk. She's realistic, and gives lots of solid facts and arguments.
/r/MensRights12/03/12 02:21 PM
9

I'm guessing that since eeph stepped down as a mod they changed the bot accordingly.
/r/MensRights11/03/12 03:32 PM
3

I think the point is that originally the law gave alimony basically forever. I can see an argument for the main earner supporting someone for a period of time while they establish themselves. I cannot see a reasonable argument for supporting them indefinitely.
/r/MensRights11/03/12 01:12 PM
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The original comment did, the one he is replying to says 'women'. I agree with the comment if it is about feminism, but not women.
/r/MensRights11/03/12 01:07 PM
10

I've read it. It was one of the first things that got me interested in all this.
/r/MensRights11/03/12 12:54 PM
1

You are right. My mistake. I updated my comment accordingly.
/r/MensRights10/03/12 10:26 PM
1

That's pretty bad. I've added it to my reference list.
/r/MensRights10/03/12 05:59 PM
2

Almost anything by Warren Farrell is good. His books are well researched, and he has a difficult to impeach background (he used to be president of the National Organization for Women). New Male Studies is an academic journal that focuses on men. It's fairly new, but there are several articles on there by academics.
/r/MensRights10/03/12 02:45 PM
8

you men (and probably some women too) aren't anti-feminists at all, are you? We are not anti-woman. There are a number of us who are anti-feminist. I'm more indifferent to feminism than against it, but there are a number of other posters who make valid points about why modern feminism is not what it presents itself to be. You've probably already seen their posts, and I'll let them speak for themselves. I sincerely hope your post is genuine, and if it is I'm glad we have another person who unders…
/r/MensRights10/03/12 02:39 PM
3

That crossed my mind too (especially since several posts like it got upvoted to the front page at the same time), but if we don't give people the benefit of the doubt, we'll never grow.
/r/MensRights10/03/12 02:32 PM
2

Do you have a link for that? It would be useful in NAFALT debates.
/r/MensRights10/03/12 02:16 PM
3

One of the things I like about this is how she quotes large blocks of text to show context, rather than quoting a line or two and reshaping it into something awful. edit: "gender issues" ;)
/r/MensRights10/03/12 02:15 PM
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From what I understand, the people at SomethingAwful, and SRS are planning to flood reddit in general and /r/MensRights specifically with stuff that makes the movement look bad, and at the same time report us to Reddit admins and the media to get the group shut down. This is easier than actual debate which they avoid for a variety of reasons, mainly to do with their maturity, courage or intelligence.
/r/MensRights10/03/12 12:20 PM
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Welcome. Glad to have you with us. It's slow going making change, but we think it's important.
/r/MensRights10/03/12 11:57 AM
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First comment on the article is the best: SPLC goes from fighting George Wallace to fighting Tucker Max. Can you get any more pathetic?
/r/MensRights10/03/12 11:51 AM
2

I was going to see if I could get him to be a speaker for my group, but if he can't come into his home country that would be difficult.
/r/MensRights10/03/12 11:47 AM
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If you like newborns having unnecessary surgery performed on them I'd say that disqualifies you as a feeling human being. Most MRA's have no problem with adult circumcisions (assuming consent), the issue is both the extreme youth of the boys it is performed on, along with the fact it is basically a useless procedure. If it were a cultural practice to cut off a newborns ear would you be ok with it? Just the fleshy bit that doesn't really do anything.
/r/MensRights09/03/12 06:34 PM
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The comments in that article are very unsympathetic to the author. It gives me hope. A sampling: EQUALITY is what we wanted, NOT preferential treatment, and we got it!!! Quit whining and get to work! We're no longer living in the 30's!!! Another: I'm a woman and I completely agree with this. The author of this article points out facts that are very reasonable and tries to spin them as crazy.
/r/MensRights09/03/12 04:10 PM
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Tons of ad hominem, generalizations and straw men people in that article. Interesting that the only MRA-like position she takes is one that she knows will be accepted by her crowd since it is also anti-religious (the case of the baby who died after a mohel performed a circumcision). Conclusion: moral coward who will only take a position that she knows is uncontroversial in her community.
/r/MensRights08/03/12 01:21 PM
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Accept her offer, and ask she reference it every time she makes a post about gender. It won't bother the other hive-mind type people, but it will sure hurt her convincing new people.
/r/MensRights07/03/12 01:02 AM
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I had inklings of the problems when I was growing up (portrayal in the media, friends in divorced families, etc...) but it was having a son of my own that really pushed me into it. When I was 18 my girlfriend at the time got pregnant. I was in favour of abortion. She was not. I has since crossed my mind that the pregnancy may not have been accidental, but I have no proof and I love my son either way. The reproductive inequality was the first one I experienced (the doctor performing the pregnancy…
/r/MensRights06/03/12 04:39 PM
1

They're both pretty immature people from what I can see. There's definitely a lot more going on than what's captured. The youtube comments seem to be favouring the man right now, although many of them are clearly trolls (e.g. "bitch got what she deserved").
/r/MensRights06/03/12 04:23 PM
1

Mostly a positive response I'd say. I'll count it a win.
/r/MensRights06/03/12 04:10 PM
1

Agree with this. I was a fairly indifferent father when my son was very young, but the older he became the better a father I became. If I hadn't had any access I wouldn't have realized this. It was actually time where it was just the two of us that I enjoyed the most.
/r/MensRights05/03/12 05:36 PM
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How about we not argue with feminists then, and just go after normal people? They outnumber the feminists anyway. The constant bitching about feminists on here is tiresome. Yes, they do attack us. Yes, they misrepresent us. Who cares? If you keep a professional demeanour and stick to the message you will come across as the reasonable one. It's rather like arguing with creationists. I'm not trying to change the creationists mind. Their mind is made up. I'm trying to change the minds of other peop…
/r/MensRights05/03/12 02:14 PM
1

The mandate is to deal with men's issues, the only time "rights" is used in a male-centric way is for fathers rights, which concerns a father's right to access to his children. I agree that avoiding the oppression angle is important. I think it would turn off most people anyway. That doesn't mean we can't speak up when we see acts or attitudes that are harmful.
/r/MensRights05/03/12 12:06 AM
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Our last name stays put. We can wear a white shirt to a water park. Wrinkles add character Hot wax never comes near our genitals. In case it wasn't obvious, none of these are meant seriously
/r/MensRights04/03/12 11:59 PM
1

I've found the right-wing media in Canada has been much more receptive to this message than the left. True, somebody somewhere is hoping we start blasting feminism, but so far we've made pretty clear that we're not going to do that.
/r/MensRights04/03/12 11:17 PM
1

Our event that evening was about father's rights, so most of my points were about that. I had about 5 minutes before the interview to switch gears. You are right, I was a bit nervous. It was my TV debut. I think that will go away with time. Radio is easier. I did talk a bit at the start about the group but it seems they trimmed it. Thanks for the feedback! This is important and I want to do the best I can.
/r/MensRights04/03/12 11:00 PM
1

He kept the subject a bit lighter than usual. The event we were having that evening was focusing on custody/access issues so I thought he was going that way. When I got the phone call it was just "men's issues"
/r/MensRights04/03/12 10:55 PM
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It was my first time on TV, and wasn't the topic I had prepared for. Any suggestions for next time?
/r/MensRights04/03/12 12:50 PM
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I would say a majority of those are the "cry for help" style suicides. It's a pity men don't feel a call for help would be listened to.
/r/MensRights04/03/12 12:51 AM
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I think the new suggested name might be a bit long, otherwise I agree. Maybe just "Adressing issues of inequality for men since 2008". If somebody is actually interested and not a troll, they can read the posts or the sidebar.
/r/MensRights03/03/12 11:07 PM
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Edit to be more clear: Men succeed in suicide far more often than women.
/r/MensRights03/03/12 11:04 PM
1

I'm hardly a newbie. Last night a group I represent hosted a public event discussing men's issues. Overall, the response was very good. That said, there was a group of people there who seemed bound and determined to prove we were all a bunch of knuggle-dragging misogynists. You can see their twitter activity here. I'm the bearded guy in a suit right toward the beginning of their tweet flurry. They were the #1 and #2 outcomes you mentioned. I'm no stranger to that kind of response. In a discussio…
/r/MensRights02/03/12 10:01 PM
1

I agree that there are sides right now; that doesn't mean I have to like it. That's why I tend to ignore the feminists (and MRA's) who just want to bicker about which is the more oppressed group. the feminists made it that way with their unrelenting attacks against the idea of "men's rights" I don't care who wronged who in the past. If someone understands where we're coming from and is willing to help (or at least not hinder) I don't care what they call themselves. It's this find of "well they s…
/r/MensRights02/03/12 06:56 PM
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I don't like seeing it as sides. If a feminist is interested in genuine equality, I find that we have a lot of common ground. If the feminist is just a misandrist in disguise then I find it pretty easy to dismiss that person as not worth my time. I'm interested in coming up with solutions to problems affecting men, not scoring points in an internet argument.
/r/MensRights02/03/12 05:55 AM
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Some people will take anything seriously. I think knucker3 is closer to the artists intent. The fact the feminist character is obviously a little kid is a pretty strong hint. In a later panel some of her allies surround somebody, and they're all kids on trikes as well. Plus there's strips like this and this that show the authors feelings a little better (note the insignia on the spine of the book in the second one).
/r/MensRights28/02/12 10:27 PM
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Came here to write this, and you did it better than me. The guy is satirizing the over-the-top feminist the same way he satirizes over-the-top religious people, and many other stereotypes taken to an extreme. I used to read him regularly, but I fell out of the web comics habit a few years ago. He hasn't changed much.
/r/MensRights28/02/12 07:16 PM
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I heard the same. Now it's showing a cPanel config page, which suggests they had some trouble with the change. This sort of thing does happen; it's probably not foul play.
/r/MensRights28/02/12 02:41 AM
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If you're in Canada, the Canadian Association For Equality can help you get a real men's interest group setup. They've already done several campus events.
/r/MensRights28/02/12 02:35 AM
1

I actually enjoyed the article she linked, where the author (male this time) describes Mama Bear as: [...] the final flowering of the grade-school prissy, the one with perfect posture and impeccable handwriting. the one the teachers loved. The one you disdained your baloney sandwich and pulled fruit salad out of her lunch box, minder her cholesterol in 1959. The one you always dreamt of drowning. Link - it's old, 1989
/r/MensRights28/02/12 02:31 AM
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I don't particularly like the books myself (I have a kid who just outgrew them). Let's at least give the author credit for a measure of equality: Papa Bear for example, is a bumbling oaf. The usual plotline in the books involves Papa trying to fix some problem but screwing it up, so that Mama has to swoop in and save the day Still, if you don't like somebody, just STFU about it and move on with your life.
/r/MensRights28/02/12 02:24 AM
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Not nearly enough. Far too many flame wars in comment threads, not enough wars against flames in common rooms. The hours would be brutal though; I'm very difficult to work with after about 6 pm, which is the prime time for idiots setting fire to themselves.
/r/MensRights27/02/12 02:17 AM
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I tend to be a bit dismissive of professional feminists, since they so rarely represent the views/priorities of normal women. They do raise the occasional valid point, but since most of their worldview is so informed by a female-centric bias I don't usually have enough common ground with them to have a real debate.
/r/MensRights27/02/12 02:15 AM
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I just looked it up for my city (Toronto, Canada). Of the 13 physical requirements, three are gender based, and they're less practical tests. The ones where you actually have to carry a dummy for a set distance, or something like that are gender-neutral. Also, apparently all I need is a CPR certificate to become a firefighter (I have everyhing else) and a starting firefighter makes about what I make now. Edit: City of Toronto requirements Test protocol from a nearby university
/r/MensRights27/02/12 12:47 AM
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I find most women are fairly agreeable to the point once you make it, but they've just never had it pointed out to them before. I usually frame it as "both characters would give kids unrealistic expectations". Even if they do argue with it, anybody listening usually sees them as unreasonable. Remember there are lots of polarizing people online, especially in an anonymous forum like this one. Your average live person isn't nearly so knee-jerk.
/r/MensRights26/02/12 06:51 PM
1

Some kind of group rate maybe? There's a campus group forming at Carleton.
/r/MensRights26/02/12 02:14 PM
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In my experience, most normal people are fairly sympathetic to men's issues when you explain them calmly. I've spoken with people who identify as feminists who come around after some discussion. It's generally the more radical people, or those with a vested interest in the status quo that resist the idea that men can be victims. Unfortunately, those also tend to be the people most in the public eye when it comes to equality issues like domestic violence or sexual assault. Most people don't appre…
/r/MensRights24/02/12 06:17 PM
2

If you want to stick to female dominated jobs, nurses in old age homes and waitresses both report above average depression rates (which sex workers do not, BTW). Nurses also have a (relatively) high rate of injury from having to move people bigger than them.
/r/MensRights23/02/12 10:53 PM
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This article is written by a retired sex worker and addresses the question explicitly. She has many other articles in a similar vein. As far as I know, she's never identified herself as an MRA of any stripe, but there is a lot of overlap between her views and those of most MRAs.
/r/MensRights23/02/12 08:24 PM
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It's legal here in Canada, just seldom used. I live in a fairly liberal city and I've only seen it once outside of something like the Gay Pride Parade.
/r/MensRights16/02/12 03:43 PM
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I think that that would just look like trolling. I don't particularly want beaten girlfriends either. The problem with the game is that it trivializes violence against men. Not just men, but men you're supposed to care about. I agree we need to draw some attention to this, but given the popularity of the game having it vanish overnight would force people to ask why. The game would just piss off some of the people we're trying to reach. The focus would be on that such a game was made, and how mis…
/r/MensRights14/02/12 03:50 AM
1

Really good job man, that's how it should be done.
/r/MensRights14/02/12 02:45 AM
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I couldn't find a way to report an app. Anybody know if there's a way? If we could get it pulled that might get a good discussion going with people who aren't into the subject the way we are.
/r/MensRights14/02/12 02:33 AM
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I'm single, but I haven't had problems with it in the past. If you frame it properly, most women are sympathetic to the men's issues, especially stuff like the suicide rate and workplace deaths. My mother and sister are also supportive. Even my ex wanted to avoid family court because she knew how messed up it is. We worked out custody outside of that system.
/r/MensRights13/02/12 06:46 PM
1

That's kinda the point in the video. It's a bit like how 'rape' has had it's definition expanded so much that looking at a woman wrong can count as 'rape' to some people even though the common perception of the term is a violent "dragged into an alley" kind of situation.
/r/MensRights09/02/12 05:39 PM
1

I'm not sure it's a gendered stereotype so much as an age based one. A mature woman wouldn't do the stuff in the OP, and a mature man wouldn't put up with it.
/r/MensRights01/02/12 12:08 PM
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It should still be legal, but it is one of those things most people will not take advantage of. It's perfectly legal for me to call my boss a cunt, I'm still not going to do it without a very good reason.
/r/MensRights29/01/12 03:10 PM
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Yes. It's already legal in my current town of Toronto, although very few women take advantage of it (I've lived here 6 years and only seen it once).
/r/MensRights29/01/12 02:19 AM
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You probably do. However, since you're in your final year it may be in your interest to find someone younger to take up the cause. If you do you'll likely just find delays for the few months you have until you graduate.
/r/MensRights23/01/12 10:24 PM
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From some googling, I get the impression it has to more to do with exposing their identities to the potential for fraud/theft than making them look like bad people. Not saying it isn't a bullshit charge, just that it isn't quite as bad as charging him for making his ex look crazy.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 01:34 AM
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It's sad that I started reading this and felt like I'd read the same article a dozen times before. Maybe I'm just having a bad day, but I feel like we're losing ground.
/r/MensRights15/01/12 11:00 PM
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A perfect example of bureaucratic evasion of responsibility, and a psychopath taking advantage of it.
/r/MensRights13/01/12 10:25 PM
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Damaging the integrity of the mother and his daughter by publishing their identities online.
/r/MensRights13/01/12 10:22 PM
1

Reminds me of this scary lady from the G20 protests in Toronto in 2010. (appears at around 0:19)
/r/MensRights11/01/12 07:15 PM
2

Definitely tough. I'll bet part of the reason your ex is upset is because when you first said you wanted out and she told her girlfriends, they said things like "he'll come around once he sees his kid". And then you didn't. So in her mind you not only didn't do what you were supposed to do, you also ruined the magical moment she was imagining. I know that's unfair and illogical. There's probably also more than a grain of truth to it. I will say that a child without a father will tend to do worse…
/r/MensRights07/01/12 08:12 PM
1

Too true. I'm scared of snakes and bears for very legitimate reasons (guns are hard to get in Canada).
/r/MensRights06/01/12 04:11 AM
1

I actually did not know about that one. Thanks!
/r/MensRights30/12/11 04:51 PM
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I'm in the middle of a good book that talks about how much of school is more about training conformity and obedience than about creating properly trained critical thinkers. Mindless application of the rules in a situation like this seems like a great example of that kind of approach. I read this situation like a good teacher being pushed out for political reasons.
/r/MensRights30/12/11 12:39 PM
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Even though it was women's fault in the first place. ;)
/r/MensRights30/12/11 12:39 AM
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I watch good sitcoms so I don't really see that. These days the worst stuff is on reality TV, but even then it isn't that common. I remember a story a few weeks ago about it happening on one show, but that's it.
/r/MensRights30/12/11 12:33 AM
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I'm all for calling out people being stupid, but this is too much of a strawman to be useful.
/r/MensRights29/12/11 05:36 PM
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This is the survey they used to measure how sexist the participants were. From a cursory reading, it seems to be well designed to find out how sexist men are about women, but has nothing to do with how sexist someone is about men. That counts as a point against it in my books. Their study also doesn't account for psychological priming, which can easily get people to lean towards a certain method of thought temporarily after being exposed to it. From the wording in the study it sounds like they t…
/r/MensRights29/12/11 02:50 PM
1

Agreed, although I think the author was wise to avoid mentioning it explicitly. Many people have an immediate knee-jerk reaction when you say things like that. By leaving it unsaid, he allows the reader to think it themselves. It's sad that it's a controversial idea, but that's the situation we're in. Many modern issues could be resolved if everyone was reminded that the judicial branch was always meant to be the equal of the other branches, not a rubber-stamper.
/r/MensRights22/12/11 06:42 PM
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I quite like her writing. She's generally reliable to tell it like she sees it and avoid PC. The National Post in general is pretty good at that, but she's one of their better writers. Back when I subscribed to a newspaper, that was the one.
/r/MensRights21/12/11 03:05 PM
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I'm 27. I got one about 2 years ago, not long before my first serious relationship broke up (we already had one kid). I do regret getting it, even though I still have a hard time trusting women. With my current kid I volunteer with his Scouting group and really enjoy it. I can continue doing things like that, but kids do bring an extra something to your life. At 18, I think you should wait. Statistically, you will probably change your mind about kids. Until you're in at least your late 20's just…
/r/MensRights21/12/11 04:07 AM
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Definitely go to HR. Canadian laws are strict about the kind of things you're describing, especially when the person is in a position of authority over you. You can go to court if they don't do anything, and also take them up in a Human Rights Tribunal/Commission (as much as I dislike them for other reasons) There are definitely federal laws covering it, both in the Human Rights Act, and the Criminal Code so you'll be well protected. The Labour Code also makes an employers responsibilities very …
/r/MensRights19/12/11 09:04 PM
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I am also Canadian, and I was in a similar spot a few years ago. There isn't much you can do in terms of protecting yourself from getting stuck with support down the line. As others said, child support is considered something the child is entitled to, so any promises she makes now have no legal backing. The advice to talk to a lawyer is the best on here. My research on the matter is a few years old, and was mostly in text books. Familiarize yourself with the laws (I used Canadian Family Law, 10t…
/r/MensRights16/12/11 01:36 AM
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Got to agree. The account looks to be brand new. It doesn't pass the sniff test.
/r/MensRights12/12/11 06:46 PM
6

Criminalization of violence against your workers is the right thing to do. I have no problem with a person acting as a broker for prostitutes, provided they do so in an up-front and honest way. The majority of sex workers don't use pimps, especially in the sense the term is conventionally meant. If they do decide they want a manager, who's to say no? A madam in a brothel is doing basically the same job as a pimp.
/r/MensRights12/12/11 03:08 PM
1

The first thing that jumped out at me was the use of the passive voice when referring to prostitutes: we forget that there are reasons that some women are prostituted while others are not I'm going to avoid fisking the article, but she seems to have started from the premise that no right thinking woman would ever choose prostitution, and all women involved in it are broken somehow and built her argument from there.
/r/MensRights12/12/11 02:59 PM
14

In Canada you're required to disclose your HIV status to sexual partners. Is this not the case in Australia? From my quick googling it looks like it's on a state-by-state basis.
/r/MensRights12/12/11 02:08 PM
3

Maybe "female chauvinist" or "misandrist" are more accurate labels, but they're also ones that are less likely to be understood. Feminist is a good one because I think a lot of popular culture has somewhat turned on modern feminism. Personally, how many times have you heard someone say "I'm not a feminist, but...". It's because the more extreme branches have gone so far that they're a parody of themselves.
/r/MensRights02/12/11 12:47 AM
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The women who are main characters have control Catelyn, Cersei, Daenerys, even Arya are all driven, intelligent people. They use the advantages they have. Even Sansa is a reasonably intelligent person, even if she is stuck in a bad spot (I've read as far as the second book). The secondary characters are pushovers, but that's true of any of them not just the women. Your friend has at best a cursory knowledge of the story and books. Did she see what Daenerys did at the end of the first season? Har…
/r/MensRights01/12/11 03:39 PM
8

Often the threat of what your punishment will be if you go to trial will convince someone to plea bargain, especially in a case like this where he didn't stand a good chance of winning to begin with. I had a friend in a similar situation, although he was accused of selling bootlegged movies. If he had gone to trial he could have faced actual prison, with a plea bargain it was just house arrest. He has two daughters (both 6 at the time) that he didn't want to be separated from.
/r/MensRights29/11/11 08:40 PM
2

It's a little more complicated than that. You're allowed to use "reasonable force" to stop the violence. Typically that means meeting the force with equal or slightly greater force but in some cases you can get away with more. As an example, there was a case in (I think) the 80's where someone was being threatened by a group of people and he reacted with quite severe violence against one of the people. He was allowed self-defense since part of his intent was to intimidate the others out of attac…
/r/MensRights29/11/11 03:42 PM
6

The more boring a child is, the more the parents, when showing off the child, receive adulation for being good parents — because they have a tame child-creature in their house. "Ben Watson interviews Frank Zappa", in MOJO magazine (October 1993)
/r/MensRights22/11/11 12:50 PM
2

Remember most women think they will be able to change your mind. Factoring that in, there's a big gulf between "I don't want kids" and "I'll never have kids". If everybody were 100% rational all the time this wouldn't be an issue, but we aren't.
/r/MensRights22/11/11 03:33 AM
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I'm in the same boat, and I've been on the fence. I have, because some women really want kids and I wouldn't want to deceive her into spending time with me when it wasn't a question of bringing me around to her point of view. I told my first girlfriend after the snip about it after she told me how the morning-after pill affected her. Since then I've been upfront about it (typically not long after we start having sex; I want to keep the rubbers for awhile because of STDs). The way I see it, if I'…
/r/MensRights22/11/11 03:30 AM
3

"I haven't found the right guy." Not true, but that'll shut 'em up, or change the subject.
/r/MensRights22/11/11 03:18 AM
1

It comes down to whether or not you trust her. After a month, that's tough to judge from the outside. If she wanted to do a false accusation she's probably already got enough grounds, but the consent-play is another level of risk.
/r/MensRights19/11/11 12:59 PM
28

Really great ad. Only thing I don't like is that there's enough of a market that they have offices across the country.
/r/MensRights18/11/11 02:40 AM
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All those reasons, and nothing about getting me a sammich.
/r/MensRights18/11/11 12:37 AM
3

Way to undermine the meaning of the term, judge. Keep up the good work and you'll be a predator in no time.
/r/MensRights17/11/11 03:13 AM
8

The police are going to get involved one way or another. Better it be on his terms instead of hers.
/r/MensRights16/11/11 05:03 PM
4

He readily admits in the comment that he engages in hyperbole. There's definitely a little there, but there is more than a little seriously goofy feminist "theory" out there.
/r/MensRights29/10/11 01:18 AM
3

Only because it is a black or grey market.
/r/MensRights29/10/11 01:14 AM
1

I does. I remember seeing it. Here it is
/r/MensRights28/10/11 07:35 PM
1

I don't know. Are Amish pro-choice? I think a newborn baby boy might qualify.
/r/MensRights28/10/11 07:15 PM
3

I think this line is a very good caution for us. There is a tendency for that to happen, especially online: If the movement becomes simply feminism with a scratchy face, it will be rightly derided as an attempt to convince the world that white heterosexual men are victims, too. But if men's advocates are consistent in applying principles of fairness and equality, they will have much to say of value to women as well as men. If we want to make progress (and I think most of us do, despite a few lou…
/r/MensRights27/10/11 11:27 AM
3

If women no longer performed free labor for men, including sexual and domestic labor, the current economic system as we know it would come crashing down. If men no longer performed the free labor for women, including dying more often on the job, the current economic system as we know it would come crashing down. And if the billion-dollar global sex industry were eliminated, the effects would be far-reaching and undeniable Yes, let's remove one of the few jobs where even a woman with very limited…
/r/MensRights27/10/11 11:04 AM
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It's less about the amount of suffering and more about the consequences of that suffering. Childbirth involves more suffering from the woman than the man, but it isn't immoral. I'm still ok with women having babies. In general I'm alright with things that further the human race, and against things that harm it.
/r/MensRights26/10/11 02:54 AM
1

The main point I'm trying to get across is that we're worrying way too much about stuff like this and not enough about real injustices. Any culture that loses sight of the importance of children or women is doomed for failure. The culture at the time knew the importance of all, and decided in that context that women and children were more important. I agree with them.
/r/MensRights26/10/11 02:52 AM
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Oddly, I'm not as bothered by this as I am by the legal injustices I see today. Women and children should come first in a desperate situation like that. Children because they are very literally the future, women because they can provide more children. Specific to the Titanic, I know a lot more people could have been saved by using lifeboats properly, which by that chart means a lot more men could have been saved but I find it harder to get worked up over this than false rape claims or the acts o…
/r/MensRights26/10/11 12:45 AM
4

I saw your reply in my comments in another thread. I have a feeling you may be too reasonable for reddit. ;-)
/r/MensRights25/10/11 08:22 PM
3

If people called themselves MRA because it was socially expected of them, I would agree with you. Honestly, I think it's starting to happen in small degrees. How often have you heard a youngish (mid-20s and younger) woman start a sentence with "I'm not a feminist, but -". I think feminism is associated with being anti-male. It shouldn't, since in its best form it means gender equality, but some pretty awful people have hitched themselves to that bandwagon. What really sucks about it is that beca…
/r/MensRights25/10/11 07:33 PM
3

He words it well. After all, the song isn't "Bye Bye Caring Woman Bye Bye" All women can be bitchy, but some women are bitches. Acceptance of men not putting up with shitty attitudes is a good step toward improving how men are seen. Usual disclaimer about how of course there is variety in behavior among both men and women, blah blah blah
/r/MensRights25/10/11 11:51 AM
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This is the kind of thing we need to show to ordinary women who might describe themselves as feminist without really thinking about what it means. The complete and utter selfishness of the commenter should get any reasonable person of any gender pissed off. She clearly has issues if she has to preface "sex" with "the oppressive act of".
/r/MensRights25/10/11 11:48 AM
3

That gives you a wedge angle . "I don't feel the evaluator gave me a fair hearing." (I've found 'feel' gets a better response than 'think', depressingly enough) You are right; if you went in with some measurable goals you would be better off. Increasing the number of men in nursing is unrealistic. Maybe something about increasing male enrollment in extracurricular activities?
/r/MensRights14/10/11 01:54 AM
2

I've found that the best thing for me is learning about female psychology and realizing most of them have no idea what they're doing. It doesn't excuse the behaviour, but it does change your reaction to it. I find especially with women raised in the grrl-power environment in the West, they've never been exposed to anything that suggests that going after their own interests above anything else can be wrong. If you hear stuff like "you can have whatever you want!" enough times you'll start to beli…
/r/MensRights14/10/11 01:07 AM
2

I assume this was somebody in the school bureaucracy? If so, go to the campus paper. If it's an independent one, even better. They're all natural shit-disturbers and they'll likely pick up your cause. To be honest, they may only go after it because courting controversy gets papers picked up but publicity is a good thing. Nobody in a bureaucracy likes publicity so you may find that having a reporter knock on her door is good enough. Edit to add: No, I don't think you can respond politely, which i…
/r/MensRights13/10/11 11:47 PM
2

Decent article, although more specific solutions would be nice.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 01:59 PM
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I think you're missing the main part of the question, which is how liable the man should be, given the girl's deception. Right now the law is a strict liability, like speeding (saying you didn't know you were going too fast won't get you out of a ticket). It doesn't matter if you get a notarized statement from her parents that she's of age. If she is underage, you are at fault. Period. I think a test of reasonableness should apply in this situation. Would a reasonable person have believed that s…
/r/MensRights03/10/11 02:00 AM
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I would say it is a men's rights issue. Changing job qualifications based on gender is pretty blatant discrimination.
/r/MensRights03/10/11 01:45 AM
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